Hello Internet

00:00:00 ◼   ► so great looking through our projected [TS]

00:00:03 ◼   ► notes here I think potentially we have a [TS]

00:00:05 ◼   ► classic hello Internet episode all the [TS]

00:00:08 ◼   ► major food groups are represented here [TS]

00:00:11 ◼   ► oh boy oh boy reading between the lines [TS]

00:00:14 ◼   ► that means it's an episode you're gonna [TS]

00:00:15 ◼   ► dread when I think of what Brady [TS]

00:00:18 ◼   ► imagines to be a classic episode of [TS]

00:00:20 ◼   ► Hello internet all i can think of is [TS]

00:00:22 ◼   ► many many Brady segments that pretty [TS]

00:00:26 ◼   ► much sums it up after my success last [TS]

00:00:32 ◼   ► week for the second episode in a row i'm [TS]

00:00:35 ◼   ► gonna try to open up without listening [TS]

00:00:37 ◼   ► message listener interaction because you [TS]

00:00:39 ◼   ► know i love them and I know you hate [TS]

00:00:41 ◼   ► them [TS]

00:00:41 ◼   ► I know but no I'm not gonna let you get [TS]

00:00:43 ◼   ► away with that I don't hate them [TS]

00:00:45 ◼   ► I only include them if they're [TS]

00:00:47 ◼   ► interesting are asked the difference [TS]

00:00:48 ◼   ► I to enjoy the interesting ones that's [TS]

00:00:51 ◼   ► why I leave them in [TS]

00:00:52 ◼   ► ok let's see how this one fares i went [TS]

00:00:56 ◼   ► to what I sometimes referred to as the [TS]

00:00:59 ◼   ► hello Internet postbox the other day [TS]

00:01:01 ◼   ► okay [TS]

00:01:02 ◼   ► essentially this is my post box if [TS]

00:01:03 ◼   ► there's something you want to send a [TS]

00:01:04 ◼   ► gray do not send it to this box because [TS]

00:01:07 ◼   ► i will be in it i would not give it to [TS]

00:01:09 ◼   ► gray because i cannot set that precedent [TS]

00:01:12 ◼   ► you mean your peel box that's what [TS]

00:01:13 ◼   ► you're talking about the one we used for [TS]

00:01:15 ◼   ► the election that's the hello Internet [TS]

00:01:16 ◼   ► post yes exactly [TS]

00:01:17 ◼   ► ok so i went along I went along for a [TS]

00:01:20 ◼   ► check hoping there might be a few new [TS]

00:01:21 ◼   ► postcards there was a package know there [TS]

00:01:25 ◼   ► are several packages actually oh my that [TS]

00:01:27 ◼   ► sounds like something i would hand over [TS]

00:01:29 ◼   ► to the police [TS]

00:01:30 ◼   ► well yes anyway I open this package it [TS]

00:01:35 ◼   ► is a book now for background people [TS]

00:01:39 ◼   ► might remember my thoughts on the book [TS]

00:01:42 ◼   ► getting things done by david allen this [TS]

00:01:45 ◼   ► is a book that gray I think holding [TS]

00:01:47 ◼   ► quite high regard and i did not enjoy [TS]

00:01:50 ◼   ► this book so much the extent where i got [TS]

00:01:52 ◼   ► a refund on my audio book because I [TS]

00:01:54 ◼   ► didn't want it and my hardcopy we [TS]

00:01:57 ◼   ► auctioned for charity I wanted this book [TS]

00:01:59 ◼   ► out of my life this book was not for me [TS]

00:02:00 ◼   ► i will i will put the the show where we [TS]

00:02:02 ◼   ► discussed it one of my favorites in the [TS]

00:02:05 ◼   ► show notes again I think you [TS]

00:02:06 ◼   ► misrepresent me here i'm not exactly [TS]

00:02:08 ◼   ► sure that it was unambiguous hold in [TS]

00:02:10 ◼   ► high regard on my part but I will [TS]

00:02:12 ◼   ► let the listeners decided that was a [TS]

00:02:13 ◼   ► fair characterization ok anyway like a [TS]

00:02:17 ◼   ► bad penny [TS]

00:02:18 ◼   ► someone has sent me a copy of this book [TS]

00:02:20 ◼   ► it's got another copy [TS]

00:02:22 ◼   ► I'm thinking now what's all this about [TS]

00:02:25 ◼   ► so I open it up and on the inside cover [TS]

00:02:29 ◼   ► the front inside cover whoever has said [TS]

00:02:31 ◼   ► this has inscribed a small flag flag so [TS]

00:02:37 ◼   ► immediately allowing bells start ringing [TS]

00:02:39 ◼   ► this is obviously a mischief-maker rebel [TS]

00:02:41 ◼   ► scum rides they're up to no good [TS]

00:02:43 ◼   ► obviously uh-huh and then on the next [TS]

00:02:47 ◼   ► page insert it between the pages is a [TS]

00:02:49 ◼   ► beer coaster like a beer mat with a web [TS]

00:02:53 ◼   ► address on it uh-huh [TS]

00:02:54 ◼   ► and I'm thinking our knife what's going [TS]

00:02:56 ◼   ► on here this is dodgy and it's an in [TS]

00:02:58 ◼   ► girl in general however i'm supposed to [TS]

00:03:00 ◼   ► pronounce that address so they want me [TS]

00:03:01 ◼   ► to look at some photo huh [TS]

00:03:04 ◼   ► but then before I look at the photo i [TS]

00:03:06 ◼   ► turn the next page i love that you keep [TS]

00:03:08 ◼   ► going into this yeah who knows what's [TS]

00:03:10 ◼   ► coming but Brady is going to find out [TS]

00:03:12 ◼   ► right [TS]

00:03:12 ◼   ► ok it's an adventure now on the next [TS]

00:03:16 ◼   ► page which is kind of like the title [TS]

00:03:17 ◼   ► page is an inscription ok what does that [TS]

00:03:22 ◼   ► say it says to Brady Haran give it [TS]

00:03:27 ◼   ► another go [TS]

00:03:28 ◼   ► i'm gonna guess is that like David [TS]

00:03:31 ◼   ► Allen's signature on the buyer is david [TS]

00:03:33 ◼   ► allen signature because if you go to the [TS]

00:03:35 ◼   ► in girly which i'm sending you now we [TS]

00:03:39 ◼   ► have someone who I don't know who this [TS]

00:03:41 ◼   ► is [TS]

00:03:42 ◼   ► they're obviously a mysterious Tim and [TS]

00:03:44 ◼   ► holding a copy of the book standing with [TS]

00:03:47 ◼   ► David Allen had a book signing [TS]

00:03:49 ◼   ► so he is obviously taken his book up to [TS]

00:03:52 ◼   ► David Allen and asked him to sign it to [TS]

00:03:54 ◼   ► me asking me to give it another go [TS]

00:03:57 ◼   ► that is fantastic a few things come into [TS]

00:04:02 ◼   ► my mind when I say this the first is I [TS]

00:04:05 ◼   ► have to say David Allen has gone up a [TS]

00:04:07 ◼   ► few pegs in my standing O has e yeah but [TS]

00:04:10 ◼   ► secondly how did the interaction work [TS]

00:04:13 ◼   ► what did he say to dave allen when he [TS]

00:04:15 ◼   ► was asked him to sign the book and say [TS]

00:04:16 ◼   ► can you please say you know to Brady [TS]

00:04:19 ◼   ► give it another go [TS]

00:04:20 ◼   ► he must have had to explain our this [TS]

00:04:22 ◼   ► podcast and there's this guy and you [TS]

00:04:24 ◼   ► really slept off your book and [TS]

00:04:26 ◼   ► said it was really boring and he like [TS]

00:04:28 ◼   ► got rid of these copies and so you [TS]

00:04:30 ◼   ► should listen to the episode it's really [TS]

00:04:32 ◼   ► entertaining as put it in the show notes [TS]

00:04:35 ◼   ► how do you think that unfolded that [TS]

00:04:40 ◼   ► interaction i'm gonna get here is the [TS]

00:04:42 ◼   ► thing the way you imagine stuff radius [TS]

00:04:44 ◼   ► that someone goes into all of the [TS]

00:04:45 ◼   ► details but i would suspect that this [TS]

00:04:49 ◼   ► this magnificent him has pulled this off [TS]

00:04:52 ◼   ► it would simply just say oh I have a [TS]

00:04:55 ◼   ► friend who tried the book and didn't [TS]

00:04:57 ◼   ► like it could you give them a suggestion [TS]

00:04:59 ◼   ► to give it another try [TS]

00:05:00 ◼   ► I think that's the fastest way in a book [TS]

00:05:03 ◼   ► signing line to get the basic just a bit [TS]

00:05:05 ◼   ► across I don't know great maybe I'm [TS]

00:05:07 ◼   ► reading too much into the picture but if [TS]

00:05:09 ◼   ► you zoom in on David Allen's face in [TS]

00:05:12 ◼   ► that picture i sent you [TS]

00:05:13 ◼   ► he doesn't look happy he does look a [TS]

00:05:15 ◼   ► little bit like he's been cornered into [TS]

00:05:17 ◼   ► doing something he didn't want to do or [TS]

00:05:18 ◼   ► am I just reading too much into that was [TS]

00:05:20 ◼   ► on the cover [TS]

00:05:21 ◼   ► he looks all smarmy and tanned and happy [TS]

00:05:23 ◼   ► and california and in this picture he [TS]

00:05:26 ◼   ► looks a bit like just get me out of him [TS]

00:05:28 ◼   ► and get me out of this photo looking at [TS]

00:05:30 ◼   ► the picture i can see why you think that [TS]

00:05:32 ◼   ► it also looks like maybe he is [TS]

00:05:34 ◼   ► suppressing a bit of a smile like maybe [TS]

00:05:36 ◼   ► he thinks this is some kind of funny [TS]

00:05:37 ◼   ► situation [TS]

00:05:38 ◼   ► his expression is hard to read but [TS]

00:05:40 ◼   ► you're right maybe he just got cornered [TS]

00:05:42 ◼   ► he wants to get out of there and it's [TS]

00:05:44 ◼   ► someone has just told him and overly [TS]

00:05:47 ◼   ► long overly detailed story in order to [TS]

00:05:49 ◼   ► get them to sign his book ID like the [TS]

00:05:52 ◼   ► term magnificent Tim I can't help but [TS]

00:05:55 ◼   ► wonder it must be a weird experience to [TS]

00:05:58 ◼   ► do a book signing of the book where your [TS]

00:06:01 ◼   ► own faces on the cover where everyone is [TS]

00:06:03 ◼   ► constantly handing you a book with a [TS]

00:06:05 ◼   ► picture of you smiling at you to then [TS]

00:06:07 ◼   ► sign if I was an author I wouldn't want [TS]

00:06:09 ◼   ► my face on the cover of the book i would [TS]

00:06:11 ◼   ► find that a weird situation signing [TS]

00:06:13 ◼   ► books with my own face on it I think if [TS]

00:06:15 ◼   ► you've signed off on having your face on [TS]

00:06:16 ◼   ► the cover you're the sort of person who [TS]

00:06:18 ◼   ► would probably quite enjoy signing a [TS]

00:06:19 ◼   ► book with your face on the cover [TS]

00:06:21 ◼   ► you might have a point that i might not [TS]

00:06:22 ◼   ► be thinking this through all the way [TS]

00:06:23 ◼   ► this is an excellence excellence [TS]

00:06:25 ◼   ► listener interaction i don't see any way [TS]

00:06:28 ◼   ► that I can possibly cut this from the [TS]

00:06:30 ◼   ► show which makes you two for two in your [TS]

00:06:33 ◼   ► gambling of openings are very well done [TS]

00:06:35 ◼   ► brady and thankee magnificent team [TS]

00:06:37 ◼   ► whoever you are if you if you do [TS]

00:06:39 ◼   ► here this tell us about this interaction [TS]

00:06:41 ◼   ► with david allen we want to hear every [TS]

00:06:43 ◼   ► detail every nuance every every tick [TS]

00:06:46 ◼   ► every every little bit of body language [TS]

00:06:49 ◼   ► on a full briefing [TS]

00:06:51 ◼   ► yes he wants to hear that all that full [TS]

00:06:53 ◼   ► briefing it might not make it to the [TS]

00:06:55 ◼   ► next show you owe me one hundred dollars [TS]

00:07:00 ◼   ► breathing well after I made that play [TS]

00:07:03 ◼   ► with you and for those who forgotten [TS]

00:07:05 ◼   ► great went to VidCon and I made a bet [TS]

00:07:07 ◼   ► that he would get dragged up to do like [TS]

00:07:09 ◼   ► a panel or talk or something like that [TS]

00:07:12 ◼   ► mhm and he bet me a hundred dollars he [TS]

00:07:15 ◼   ► wouldn't em and on the face of our [TS]

00:07:18 ◼   ► thought that was a good bet and very [TS]

00:07:20 ◼   ► quickly after making it I realized it [TS]

00:07:23 ◼   ► was a mistake and it wasn't a mistake [TS]

00:07:24 ◼   ► for the reason that you think it's a [TS]

00:07:26 ◼   ► mistake okay it wasn't a mistake because [TS]

00:07:29 ◼   ► gray is like a recluse or shy or doesn't [TS]

00:07:32 ◼   ► like attention [TS]

00:07:33 ◼   ► uh-huh that those things are true but [TS]

00:07:35 ◼   ► grades also like you know you do do [TS]

00:07:38 ◼   ► public things now [TS]

00:07:39 ◼   ► uh-huh and you've started doing more of [TS]

00:07:41 ◼   ► it and also you are like a nice guy and [TS]

00:07:44 ◼   ► someone who likes to please his friends [TS]

00:07:46 ◼   ► and his colleagues ok interesting i [TS]

00:07:49 ◼   ► think it's true you will help your [TS]

00:07:50 ◼   ► friends if they ask you and I imagine a [TS]

00:07:53 ◼   ► scenario where someone was going to say [TS]

00:07:55 ◼   ► you gray come up and do this panel I [TS]

00:07:57 ◼   ► help us out with this Q&A because you [TS]

00:07:59 ◼   ► know everyone that's great to be a nice [TS]

00:08:00 ◼   ► surprise and I thought put in that [TS]

00:08:02 ◼   ► situation you would agree to it [TS]

00:08:05 ◼   ► the thing that I didn't take into [TS]

00:08:07 ◼   ► account is Howard likely it was that [TS]

00:08:11 ◼   ► would happen [TS]

00:08:12 ◼   ► mm because people don't like giving up [TS]

00:08:15 ◼   ► their stage and what and what first and [TS]

00:08:18 ◼   ► doing a clear an area panel is going to [TS]

00:08:20 ◼   ► want to give up their limelight to [TS]

00:08:21 ◼   ► someone else you know these are like in [TS]

00:08:24 ◼   ► a YouTube celebrities who loves the [TS]

00:08:27 ◼   ► limelight so it suddenly occurred to me [TS]

00:08:29 ◼   ► hang on [TS]

00:08:29 ◼   ► great probably won't even get asked to [TS]

00:08:31 ◼   ► do this so you never have to refuse to [TS]

00:08:35 ◼   ► come on [TS]

00:08:36 ◼   ► did you get asked I when interacting [TS]

00:08:38 ◼   ► with people essentially pre shut down [TS]

00:08:41 ◼   ► any discussion of joining any panels by [TS]

00:08:43 ◼   ► always saying oh I'm just here is a [TS]

00:08:45 ◼   ► civilian [TS]

00:08:46 ◼   ► I'm just here as a tourist i'm not doing [TS]

00:08:48 ◼   ► anything I'm just here as a normal guy [TS]

00:08:50 ◼   ► just a normal person with [TS]

00:08:52 ◼   ► VidCon pass that's what I was trying to [TS]

00:08:54 ◼   ► pinch myself to in every single [TS]

00:08:56 ◼   ► interaction and you know remarkably no i [TS]

00:08:59 ◼   ► did not get asked to do anything but i [TS]

00:09:01 ◼   ► also agree with you that I interesting [TS]

00:09:03 ◼   ► experience of VidCon was over and over [TS]

00:09:08 ◼   ► realizing like oh this is obviously [TS]

00:09:11 ◼   ► we're all of the extra verts go [TS]

00:09:15 ◼   ► I think all of the people who loved to [TS]

00:09:18 ◼   ► be onstage who love to be in front of [TS]

00:09:21 ◼   ► huge audiences like by definition if you [TS]

00:09:24 ◼   ► are a huge youtube star you are probably [TS]

00:09:26 ◼   ► that kind of person you are probably not [TS]

00:09:29 ◼   ► a huge introverted like there are [TS]

00:09:31 ◼   ► exceptions to that but for the most case [TS]

00:09:33 ◼   ► that's the way it's going to work and so [TS]

00:09:36 ◼   ► you are definitely right that there may [TS]

00:09:38 ◼   ► have been an element of who wants to [TS]

00:09:40 ◼   ► invite an additional person up on their [TS]

00:09:42 ◼   ► panel nobody nobody wants to do that [TS]

00:09:44 ◼   ► everybody wants the panel to be as much [TS]

00:09:46 ◼   ► about them as they can possibly have a [TS]

00:09:47 ◼   ► big say I mean that's it i was right i [TS]

00:09:50 ◼   ► mean i was wrong but I was right and why [TS]

00:09:52 ◼   ► I was wrong as soon as I made the bet I [TS]

00:09:54 ◼   ► realized my mistake was not graze [TS]

00:09:56 ◼   ► introversion it was everyone else's [TS]

00:09:58 ◼   ► extraversion it's their unwillingness to [TS]

00:10:01 ◼   ► share the limelight so I are you a [TS]

00:10:04 ◼   ► hundred dollars you owe me a hundred [TS]

00:10:05 ◼   ► dollars and because of breaks at which [TS]

00:10:07 ◼   ► we may discuss later i need to do a bit [TS]

00:10:09 ◼   ► of horse trading about what the best way [TS]

00:10:11 ◼   ► to give you that money will be stressed [TS]

00:10:13 ◼   ► the pound plummets I don't know how I'm [TS]

00:10:16 ◼   ► gonna do this but i'll try and find a [TS]

00:10:18 ◼   ► way to do it they went bankrupt me right [TS]

00:10:20 ◼   ► $100 or 5,000 path so I lost the bet so [TS]

00:10:28 ◼   ► while i was at VidCon we had just [TS]

00:10:31 ◼   ► recorded that morning and we had her big [TS]

00:10:34 ◼   ► discussion about the snapchat how does [TS]

00:10:38 ◼   ► it work and why ? and for the entirety [TS]

00:10:42 ◼   ► of VidCon our friend Destin [TS]

00:10:46 ◼   ► smartereveryday just kept pushing me to [TS]

00:10:49 ◼   ► join snapshots that do that dude he's [TS]

00:10:52 ◼   ► like a snapchat drug pusher every [TS]

00:10:55 ◼   ► conversation I think he must have stuck [TS]

00:10:57 ◼   ► in the snapchat i honest to god that was [TS]

00:10:59 ◼   ► what i was thinking feels like you are [TS]

00:11:00 ◼   ► so pushing this i'm just going to assume [TS]

00:11:03 ◼   ► that you're a secret co-founder of [TS]

00:11:05 ◼   ► snapchat [TS]

00:11:06 ◼   ► nothing else makes any sense here and it [TS]

00:11:08 ◼   ► was one of those things where the more [TS]

00:11:11 ◼   ► someone talked the less unless i was [TS]

00:11:13 ◼   ► convinced every second right so like we [TS]

00:11:15 ◼   ► had this whole conversation where you [TS]

00:11:16 ◼   ► tried to explain it to me and then I had [TS]

00:11:18 ◼   ► destined showing me all of the amazing [TS]

00:11:21 ◼   ► things that you could do on snapchat [TS]

00:11:22 ◼   ► including a moment which I totally loved [TS]

00:11:24 ◼   ► where we were just having as you do I [TS]

00:11:27 ◼   ► hop for dinner in America and Destin [TS]

00:11:30 ◼   ► whips out his phone he's like look at [TS]

00:11:32 ◼   ► this thing that you can do I can just [TS]

00:11:34 ◼   ► film you and your hands eating your [TS]

00:11:36 ◼   ► dinner isn't this great this is going to [TS]

00:11:38 ◼   ► go up on snapchat immediately and people [TS]

00:11:40 ◼   ► can look at it as I I want nothing to do [TS]

00:11:43 ◼   ► with this natural thing poker the more [TS]

00:11:45 ◼   ► you're trying to convince me the less [TS]

00:11:47 ◼   ► convincing this absolutely is he was [TS]

00:11:50 ◼   ► super excited about that video he asked [TS]

00:11:52 ◼   ► me the other day if I want like the [TS]

00:11:53 ◼   ► original footage I think he thinks it's [TS]

00:11:55 ◼   ► approved to feel more than the moon [TS]

00:11:56 ◼   ► landings man prays heads on the snapchat [TS]

00:11:59 ◼   ► like it was that you know your snapchat [TS]

00:12:01 ◼   ► debut or something maybe there's [TS]

00:12:03 ◼   ► something about their video I've missed [TS]

00:12:04 ◼   ► but I sort of what shouldn't thought [TS]

00:12:06 ◼   ► it's just a dude filming another dudes [TS]

00:12:07 ◼   ► hands eating food too and the don'ts [TS]

00:12:09 ◼   ► sounds and impressed about being filmed [TS]

00:12:11 ◼   ► and the thing that I didn't even [TS]

00:12:13 ◼   ► understand it is it seems like snapchat [TS]

00:12:15 ◼   ► just like twitter has a character limit [TS]

00:12:17 ◼   ► snapchat has some kind of time limit for [TS]

00:12:19 ◼   ► what is recording yeah when he was [TS]

00:12:21 ◼   ► trying to explain it to me it just cuts [TS]

00:12:22 ◼   ► off in the middle as i get great you're [TS]

00:12:24 ◼   ► totally selling this thing you're gonna [TS]

00:12:25 ◼   ► film the thing we're talking about it [TS]

00:12:27 ◼   ► and then it just cuts off on the middle [TS]

00:12:29 ◼   ► anyway this is awful but this is dumb [TS]

00:12:31 ◼   ► this is terrible but it's nonetheless [TS]

00:12:34 ◼   ► while I mentioned in the last show that [TS]

00:12:36 ◼   ► I made a little note for my assistant to [TS]

00:12:39 ◼   ► make me a snapchat just like someone [TS]

00:12:41 ◼   ► totally out of touch would do after the [TS]

00:12:43 ◼   ► show i forgot to delete that little [TS]

00:12:46 ◼   ► instruction and so I have actually ended [TS]

00:12:49 ◼   ► up with a snapchat and I thought okay [TS]

00:12:53 ◼   ► just for completeness is sake i'm going [TS]

00:12:56 ◼   ► to install it on my phone and just see [TS]

00:12:58 ◼   ► what it looks like and maybe I'll do one [TS]

00:13:01 ◼   ► thing and then I'll just never do it [TS]

00:13:02 ◼   ► again and I just want to reiterate a [TS]

00:13:05 ◼   ► thousandfold your described experience [TS]

00:13:08 ◼   ► of even installing and using snapchat at [TS]

00:13:12 ◼   ► all is a completely baffling experience [TS]

00:13:14 ◼   ► thank you thank you [TS]

00:13:16 ◼   ► I did have a lot of people saying it [TS]

00:13:18 ◼   ► wasn't just you ready but having it come [TS]

00:13:19 ◼   ► from you is vindication because you're [TS]

00:13:22 ◼   ► you know you're pretty up with the tech [TS]

00:13:23 ◼   ► I thought you might be exaggerating or [TS]

00:13:27 ◼   ► just like totally out of touch but like [TS]

00:13:30 ◼   ► trying to get that thing installed and [TS]

00:13:32 ◼   ► looking at the stars like you have to [TS]

00:13:33 ◼   ► put this and can't get this thing take a [TS]

00:13:35 ◼   ► picture of this and then when it loads [TS]

00:13:36 ◼   ► up there is no labels on any buttons the [TS]

00:13:38 ◼   ► button seem intentionally obscure and [TS]

00:13:41 ◼   ► somehow throughout the entirety of [TS]

00:13:44 ◼   ► everybody describing it to me and [TS]

00:13:45 ◼   ► everybody showing it to me i somehow [TS]

00:13:47 ◼   ► missed it was purely video that there [TS]

00:13:50 ◼   ► was literally nothing you could do aside [TS]

00:13:52 ◼   ► from video and as soon as i figure that [TS]

00:13:53 ◼   ► out I was like I the hell with this i'm [TS]

00:13:55 ◼   ► just talking to get off my own you can [TS]

00:13:58 ◼   ► take stills no okay well i didn't get [TS]

00:14:00 ◼   ► far [TS]

00:14:01 ◼   ► then why don't you just tell you just [TS]

00:14:03 ◼   ► tap that video button instead of holding [TS]

00:14:04 ◼   ► it down [TS]

00:14:05 ◼   ► oh ok it's completely baffling great i [TS]

00:14:07 ◼   ► like it's like that scene in movies when [TS]

00:14:09 ◼   ► people get into the alien spacecraft and [TS]

00:14:12 ◼   ► there's like four different symbols on [TS]

00:14:14 ◼   ► the dashboard and yet somehow they still [TS]

00:14:15 ◼   ► managed to fly the spaceship [TS]

00:14:17 ◼   ► I don't like that's what the whole world [TS]

00:14:18 ◼   ► is like with snapchat we're flying the [TS]

00:14:20 ◼   ► spaceship with symbols and controls none [TS]

00:14:23 ◼   ► of us understand anyway I just have to [TS]

00:14:27 ◼   ► completely agree with you i feel like i [TS]

00:14:29 ◼   ► was glad to have the experience of maybe [TS]

00:14:34 ◼   ► 90 seconds of playing around with [TS]

00:14:35 ◼   ► snapchat just to see what it was like [TS]

00:14:37 ◼   ► and then realizing nope i have no place [TS]

00:14:39 ◼   ► for this in my life it brings me [TS]

00:14:41 ◼   ► absolutely no utility no matter how much [TS]

00:14:44 ◼   ► Destin keeps pushing it no matter how [TS]

00:14:46 ◼   ► much he wants to drive up the value of [TS]

00:14:48 ◼   ► his stocks and snapchat i am not going [TS]

00:14:50 ◼   ► to use this thing to be fair it's suits [TS]

00:14:53 ◼   ► Destin because he's such a nice guy [TS]

00:14:55 ◼   ► usually charming and he really likes [TS]

00:14:57 ◼   ► interacting with as many people as [TS]

00:14:59 ◼   ► possible and he lives in this world [TS]

00:15:01 ◼   ► where his day lasts 90 hours so he has [TS]

00:15:03 ◼   ► time to do this as far as i can tell he [TS]

00:15:06 ◼   ► does not sleep as I said before I think [TS]

00:15:08 ◼   ► it's less you there has been an [TS]

00:15:09 ◼   ► interesting development in the world of [TS]

00:15:11 ◼   ► snapchat since we spoke you know how we [TS]

00:15:13 ◼   ► have this delusion that like the world [TS]

00:15:15 ◼   ► changes and continents move based on [TS]

00:15:18 ◼   ► things we talked about hello Internet [TS]

00:15:20 ◼   ► I don't think it is a delusion I more [TS]

00:15:22 ◼   ► episodes we do the more confirmation [TS]

00:15:25 ◼   ► bias we have for this [TS]

00:15:26 ◼   ► well you may remember I think I [TS]

00:15:29 ◼   ► mentioned this on the podcast [TS]

00:15:30 ◼   ► that was certainly something I felt I [TS]

00:15:32 ◼   ► felt a frustration about not being able [TS]

00:15:35 ◼   ► to take past material and media and put [TS]

00:15:39 ◼   ► it on the snapchat and always had to be [TS]

00:15:41 ◼   ► immediate like I had to make a picture [TS]

00:15:42 ◼   ► now and put it on I couldn't go and get [TS]

00:15:45 ◼   ► get those beautiful pictures from Mount [TS]

00:15:47 ◼   ► Everest five years ago when brag about [TS]

00:15:49 ◼   ► that on snapchat because you can't go [TS]

00:15:51 ◼   ► and get stuff from the vault right for [TS]

00:15:53 ◼   ► shame [TS]

00:15:54 ◼   ► yeah the funny thing is within a day or [TS]

00:15:57 ◼   ► two I realized the error of my ways and [TS]

00:16:00 ◼   ► I realized the strength of snapchat was [TS]

00:16:03 ◼   ► this immediacy people couldn't Instagram [TS]

00:16:05 ◼   ► and make their lives like all amazing it [TS]

00:16:07 ◼   ► was unvarnished it was like this really [TS]

00:16:10 ◼   ► nice immediate contact everything [TS]

00:16:12 ◼   ► disappears in 24 hours you know the [TS]

00:16:15 ◼   ► blackboard is constantly being white [TS]

00:16:17 ◼   ► clean and I realized this was what was [TS]

00:16:19 ◼   ► good about it and I embraced that now [TS]

00:16:21 ◼   ► and then about day or two after that [TS]

00:16:24 ◼   ► snapchat and melts they are now allowing [TS]

00:16:27 ◼   ► people to do the exact thing that I wish [TS]

00:16:29 ◼   ► they did and now I wish they wouldn't do [TS]

00:16:31 ◼   ► but they are doing and you can take [TS]

00:16:34 ◼   ► things from the vault and create this [TS]

00:16:35 ◼   ► new area of snapchat which I haven't [TS]

00:16:37 ◼   ► looked at yet and I don't know how it [TS]

00:16:38 ◼   ► works i think it's called memories or [TS]

00:16:40 ◼   ► something like that so in addition to [TS]

00:16:42 ◼   ► your sort of immediate day-to-day story [TS]

00:16:44 ◼   ► you can now go and get your perfectly [TS]

00:16:47 ◼   ► crafted photos and photoshop them and [TS]

00:16:50 ◼   ► have nice vignettes and make everything [TS]

00:16:52 ◼   ► look perfect and pretty and not the sort [TS]

00:16:55 ◼   ► of crazy and vanish snapchat which I [TS]

00:16:57 ◼   ► think works better [TS]

00:16:58 ◼   ► so it's all change well I trust that now [TS]

00:17:02 ◼   ► that you have explained to snapchat the [TS]

00:17:05 ◼   ► errors of their ways they will quickly [TS]

00:17:07 ◼   ► revert this decision if you've got a [TS]

00:17:10 ◼   ► phone or a camera or a computer full of [TS]

00:17:13 ◼   ► photos [TS]

00:17:14 ◼   ► why not liberate at least some of them [TS]

00:17:16 ◼   ► into the real world [TS]

00:17:17 ◼   ► nothing beats having some of your [TS]

00:17:18 ◼   ► favorite memories hanging on the wall [TS]

00:17:20 ◼   ► sitting on the mantelpiece or maybe [TS]

00:17:22 ◼   ► poached on your desk and one of the best [TS]

00:17:24 ◼   ► ways to do this is with fracture [TS]

00:17:26 ◼   ► fractures a great service which print [TS]

00:17:28 ◼   ► your photos onto a piece of glass [TS]

00:17:30 ◼   ► ready-made for display these bits of [TS]

00:17:33 ◼   ► glass have a special rigid backing to [TS]

00:17:34 ◼   ► make sure it's easy to hang but the [TS]

00:17:36 ◼   ► product is superlight really easy to [TS]

00:17:38 ◼   ► handle [TS]

00:17:39 ◼   ► are you going to do is simply upload the [TS]

00:17:40 ◼   ► picture to their website picker sighs [TS]

00:17:42 ◼   ► and free [TS]

00:17:43 ◼   ► picture will do the rest at their [TS]

00:17:44 ◼   ► factory or fracture e in Florida [TS]

00:17:47 ◼   ► I've done it myself it's painless and a [TS]

00:17:49 ◼   ► pleasant process I especially recommend [TS]

00:17:52 ◼   ► fractures as gifts if you've got a [TS]

00:17:54 ◼   ► relative or a friend or a partner and [TS]

00:17:56 ◼   ► you're stuck for a gift idea you can [TS]

00:17:58 ◼   ► never go wrong with a nice sentimental [TS]

00:18:00 ◼   ► photo and having it fractured in two [TS]

00:18:02 ◼   ► glasses also a real talking point when [TS]

00:18:04 ◼   ► you give the president doesn't even have [TS]

00:18:06 ◼   ► to be a birthday or an anniversary or [TS]

00:18:08 ◼   ► anything like that just give one as a [TS]

00:18:10 ◼   ► gift out of the blue that ends you even [TS]

00:18:12 ◼   ► more brownie points fractures a clean [TS]

00:18:15 ◼   ► frameless and beautifully finished they [TS]

00:18:17 ◼   ► come with a 60 day happiness guarantee [TS]

00:18:19 ◼   ► i'd recommend just having a look at [TS]

00:18:21 ◼   ► their website to get you started that [TS]

00:18:22 ◼   ► explains everything really well and [TS]

00:18:24 ◼   ► there's lots of pictures showing how it [TS]

00:18:26 ◼   ► all works and what the finished product [TS]

00:18:28 ◼   ► is gonna look like that website is [TS]

00:18:29 ◼   ► fracture me.com fracture me.com if you [TS]

00:18:35 ◼   ► do order something you'll get ten [TS]

00:18:37 ◼   ► percent of your first order by using the [TS]

00:18:39 ◼   ► code [TS]

00:18:40 ◼   ► hello internet that's ten percent off [TS]

00:18:42 ◼   ► hello internet and no no you came from [TS]

00:18:45 ◼   ► the show thank you to fracture for their [TS]

00:18:47 ◼   ► support and seriously give them a look [TS]

00:18:49 ◼   ► it's a really nifty product so we have [TS]

00:18:53 ◼   ► to talk about flags if we're going to [TS]

00:18:55 ◼   ► have a classic episode well and we [TS]

00:18:57 ◼   ► probably have to talk about emojis [TS]

00:18:59 ◼   ► okay I have an emoji flag story how do [TS]

00:19:02 ◼   ► you a submission has been prepared and [TS]

00:19:04 ◼   ► again i'll try and link to it i think [TS]

00:19:06 ◼   ► it's been done by these people from [TS]

00:19:08 ◼   ► emoji pedia and you know people in the [TS]

00:19:11 ◼   ► emoji world have put in this formal [TS]

00:19:13 ◼   ► submission to whoever you have to [TS]

00:19:14 ◼   ► formally submit things to to have emojis [TS]

00:19:17 ◼   ► recognized to have the home nation flags [TS]

00:19:20 ◼   ► made into official emojis because at the [TS]

00:19:25 ◼   ► moment there is the Union Jack [TS]

00:19:26 ◼   ► representing the United Kingdom but [TS]

00:19:29 ◼   ► there is no england flag there is no [TS]

00:19:31 ◼   ► wireless flag there's no Scotland flag [TS]

00:19:33 ◼   ► and I've actually found that quite [TS]

00:19:35 ◼   ► frustrating there have been times [TS]

00:19:36 ◼   ► believe are not where I wanted to use [TS]

00:19:38 ◼   ► those flags and have been unable to [TS]

00:19:40 ◼   ► literally not more than three hours ago [TS]

00:19:43 ◼   ► I wanted to send someone in England [TS]

00:19:46 ◼   ► Wales emoji flag thing and discovered [TS]

00:19:49 ◼   ► for the very first time that those whole [TS]

00:19:51 ◼   ► nation flags don't exist i just assume [TS]

00:19:53 ◼   ► that they would be there but there [TS]

00:19:54 ◼   ► that yeah so I know there are sort of [TS]

00:19:57 ◼   ► thin end of the wedge and you can open [TS]

00:19:59 ◼   ► the floodgates and where does this stop [TS]

00:20:01 ◼   ► but i think the home nations should be [TS]

00:20:03 ◼   ► in the emoji sphere and i hope that this [TS]

00:20:06 ◼   ► submission was successful [TS]

00:20:08 ◼   ► well I mean if they're going to do the [TS]

00:20:10 ◼   ► whole nation flags i think they [TS]

00:20:13 ◼   ► absolutely have to do all 50 states [TS]

00:20:14 ◼   ► flags i think there's no way around that [TS]

00:20:16 ◼   ► no this is not the case because I beg to [TS]

00:20:19 ◼   ► disagree and obviously have to do the [TS]

00:20:21 ◼   ► Liberian County flags but yes of course [TS]

00:20:24 ◼   ► right just for funsies those need to be [TS]

00:20:25 ◼   ► in there yes i agree but this whole [TS]

00:20:28 ◼   ► nation thing has been causing [TS]

00:20:29 ◼   ► significant problems for example the [TS]

00:20:31 ◼   ► european football championships which [TS]

00:20:32 ◼   ► are finishing today as we record the [TS]

00:20:35 ◼   ► fire was actually on shortly [TS]

00:20:36 ◼   ► there's no united kingdom team in that [TS]

00:20:39 ◼   ► there's all these international teams [TS]

00:20:41 ◼   ► and we have when I was competing and we [TS]

00:20:42 ◼   ► have England the same is true of the [TS]

00:20:44 ◼   ► world cup of football now Texas and [TS]

00:20:47 ◼   ► California who and Nevada and whatever [TS]

00:20:51 ◼   ► don't have teams competing at the world [TS]

00:20:53 ◼   ► cup but Scotland and Wales and England [TS]

00:20:56 ◼   ► are these are countries that states that [TS]

00:20:58 ◼   ► actually causes formatting problems with [TS]

00:21:00 ◼   ► some people who depend on emojis when [TS]

00:21:02 ◼   ► all these tourneys take place and I mean [TS]

00:21:05 ◼   ► I know there's more to the world and [TS]

00:21:06 ◼   ► sport but it's going to say yes I find [TS]

00:21:10 ◼   ► your solely because there are sports [TS]

00:21:12 ◼   ► competing things not super convincing [TS]

00:21:14 ◼   ► home nations and sports is always such a [TS]

00:21:16 ◼   ► confusing weird historical thing that [TS]

00:21:19 ◼   ► occurs that doesn't necessarily make any [TS]

00:21:21 ◼   ► sense whatsoever especially when you [TS]

00:21:23 ◼   ► look at the population breakdown of [TS]

00:21:25 ◼   ► Scotland Wales Northern Ireland we know [TS]

00:21:28 ◼   ► versus other places so I'm definitely [TS]

00:21:31 ◼   ► gonna say this that if the home nations [TS]

00:21:32 ◼   ► get accepted i think the moji committee [TS]

00:21:36 ◼   ► or whoever is in charge of this i think [TS]

00:21:38 ◼   ► they have to do the individual state [TS]

00:21:40 ◼   ► flags i think there's no argument around [TS]

00:21:41 ◼   ► this i don't find your sports than [TS]

00:21:43 ◼   ► convincing just seriously for a moment [TS]

00:21:45 ◼   ► you seriously believe that [TS]

00:21:46 ◼   ► yeah I think they should do the state [TS]

00:21:47 ◼   ► flags what about the state flags [TS]

00:21:49 ◼   ► Australia you know I mean let's be [TS]

00:21:51 ◼   ► honest who cares are so America can have [TS]

00:21:54 ◼   ► a statement exactly right exactly right [TS]

00:21:56 ◼   ► listen but who cares right nobody often [TS]

00:21:59 ◼   ► have you ever want to use a state flag [TS]

00:22:01 ◼   ► for one of the states and australia [TS]

00:22:02 ◼   ► never right [TS]

00:22:04 ◼   ► how often does someone from Texas want [TS]

00:22:06 ◼   ► to use a Texas flag emoji [TS]

00:22:08 ◼   ► I bet every day of their life Texans are [TS]

00:22:10 ◼   ► sad that they don't have an official [TS]

00:22:12 ◼   ► Texas emoji to use I bet there's an [TS]

00:22:15 ◼   ► everyday sad texans in their hats [TS]

00:22:17 ◼   ► yeah well it's been an emoji of like a [TS]

00:22:19 ◼   ► cowboy hat or something it's not the [TS]

00:22:21 ◼   ► same as Texas you know and and think of [TS]

00:22:24 ◼   ► all of those states they could have such [TS]

00:22:26 ◼   ► a beautiful field of barely [TS]

00:22:29 ◼   ► distinguishable blue icons with some [TS]

00:22:32 ◼   ► kind of muddy yellow logo in the center [TS]

00:22:34 ◼   ► each of them to pick from it could be [TS]

00:22:36 ◼   ► amazing i can already foresee the day [TS]

00:22:38 ◼   ► we're on the 4-inch screen of my iphone [TS]

00:22:42 ◼   ► SE e I'm trying to distinguish the new [TS]

00:22:46 ◼   ► york state flag by looking for a tiny [TS]

00:22:48 ◼   ► Excelsior written at the bottom of a [TS]

00:22:50 ◼   ► banner or a smiling Sun face in the [TS]

00:22:52 ◼   ► middle of a field in the background [TS]

00:22:54 ◼   ► trying to distinguish that from all of [TS]

00:22:56 ◼   ► the varying his other blue flags with [TS]

00:22:58 ◼   ► the seal in the center i look forward to [TS]

00:23:00 ◼   ► that day it could an emoji possibly [TS]

00:23:03 ◼   ► contain the spectacular horror that is [TS]

00:23:05 ◼   ► the maryland state flag [TS]

00:23:08 ◼   ► I wonder how many pixels by how many [TS]

00:23:11 ◼   ► pixels a standard emoji is and I know [TS]

00:23:15 ◼   ► Apple did just make an announcement that [TS]

00:23:16 ◼   ► they're going to and begin their emoji [TS]

00:23:18 ◼   ► by three times even still I can easily [TS]

00:23:21 ◼   ► imagine that when you have to pick it [TS]

00:23:23 ◼   ► out in that tiny little keyboard at the [TS]

00:23:25 ◼   ► bottom there is simply no way to [TS]

00:23:27 ◼   ► distinguish the flags and the parallel [TS]

00:23:29 ◼   ► in flag at least you'll be able to pick [TS]

00:23:31 ◼   ► it out but how much detail will [TS]

00:23:33 ◼   ► accurately represent of their flag [TS]

00:23:36 ◼   ► I bet none in all seriousness I do [TS]

00:23:41 ◼   ► realize there would be a greater demand [TS]

00:23:43 ◼   ► for American state flags than any other [TS]

00:23:45 ◼   ► state flags of course that you cannot [TS]

00:23:48 ◼   ► put the American state flags in at the [TS]

00:23:51 ◼   ► expense of other country states and [TS]

00:23:54 ◼   ► counties whereas I think the home [TS]

00:23:56 ◼   ► nations of the UK while not being quite [TS]

00:23:59 ◼   ► as fully fledged get angry Scottish [TS]

00:24:01 ◼   ► people as other countries i think has a [TS]

00:24:05 ◼   ► higher ranking and should be brought [TS]

00:24:08 ◼   ► into the fold before we even have the [TS]

00:24:10 ◼   ► conversation about state flags [TS]

00:24:12 ◼   ► yeah but like how many people even live [TS]

00:24:14 ◼   ► in Wales have to look this up now [TS]

00:24:17 ◼   ► thank you a hundred thousand people hey [TS]

00:24:19 ◼   ► they just made the semi-finals of the [TS]

00:24:20 ◼   ► euro [TS]

00:24:21 ◼   ► more people live in Wales than Iceland [TS]

00:24:23 ◼   ► maybe I haven't checked that fact yeah i [TS]

00:24:27 ◼   ► know i was a whatever whatever we got [TS]

00:24:29 ◼   ► here well how many people do live in was [TS]

00:24:31 ◼   ► ok there three million people in Wales [TS]

00:24:34 ◼   ► oh that's white bigger than Iceland and [TS]

00:24:36 ◼   ► I should get an emoji that's true [TS]

00:24:38 ◼   ► iceland you get an emoji but at least [TS]

00:24:40 ◼   ► they are a fully sovereign nation make [TS]

00:24:43 ◼   ► them look like they're on the world [TS]

00:24:44 ◼   ► stage there agree and that's why they're [TS]

00:24:46 ◼   ► in and why was is not yet but i think [TS]

00:24:49 ◼   ► what else needs to come in before [TS]

00:24:51 ◼   ► something even less sovereign like [TS]

00:24:53 ◼   ► Maryland but the sovereignty matter or [TS]

00:24:56 ◼   ► does it is the number of that you put it [TS]

00:24:57 ◼   ► up [TS]

00:24:58 ◼   ► I'm just saying like we have to start [TS]

00:24:59 ◼   ► somewhere right it's like okay we're [TS]

00:25:00 ◼   ► starting with all the sovereign nations [TS]

00:25:02 ◼   ► ok obviously done although actually do [TS]

00:25:04 ◼   ► they have all of the flags for the [TS]

00:25:05 ◼   ► nation's I don't even know I'm sure [TS]

00:25:06 ◼   ► there's some nation out there that's [TS]

00:25:07 ◼   ► really angry [TS]

00:25:08 ◼   ► is there a vatican city flag i don't [TS]

00:25:10 ◼   ► actually now I wonder but after that I [TS]

00:25:12 ◼   ► think you have to start looking at [TS]

00:25:14 ◼   ► populations and that's why I think you [TS]

00:25:15 ◼   ► have to go with those state flags figure [TS]

00:25:17 ◼   ► you know California Texas New York [TS]

00:25:20 ◼   ► there's hundreds of millions of people [TS]

00:25:22 ◼   ► that live in those states will hang on [TS]

00:25:24 ◼   ► there are we gonna start having like [TS]

00:25:25 ◼   ► provinces of China before we have Texas [TS]

00:25:27 ◼   ► then because they've got more people I [TS]

00:25:29 ◼   ► can get behind that [TS]

00:25:30 ◼   ► galloway we've made it clear that the [TS]

00:25:32 ◼   ► decision is based on sovereignty that [TS]

00:25:34 ◼   ► decision has been made [TS]

00:25:36 ◼   ► ok so we did the sovereignty level and [TS]

00:25:37 ◼   ► then I think after sovereignty then you [TS]

00:25:38 ◼   ► start looking at like what's the market [TS]

00:25:40 ◼   ► demand for a California emoji versus a [TS]

00:25:45 ◼   ► northern ireland emoji [TS]

00:25:46 ◼   ► okay great i'm on with you then so are [TS]

00:25:48 ◼   ► you now saying if all the Texans want a [TS]

00:25:51 ◼   ► Texas emoji with some little tiny state [TS]

00:25:54 ◼   ► I don't know what's the smallest state [TS]

00:25:55 ◼   ► in America hadn't even know what's the [TS]

00:25:56 ◼   ► smallest population like a Wyoming of [TS]

00:25:59 ◼   ► course when is it OK [TS]

00:26:01 ◼   ► why me and say there's not much demand [TS]

00:26:03 ◼   ► from them [TS]

00:26:04 ◼   ► does that mean they don't get into the [TS]

00:26:05 ◼   ► emoji but Texas do or because we have [TS]

00:26:08 ◼   ► one state flag of America we get all the [TS]

00:26:10 ◼   ► state flags at once you have to do them [TS]

00:26:11 ◼   ► as a collection right we do them as a [TS]

00:26:13 ◼   ► collection has 1st argument okay can [TS]

00:26:16 ◼   ► start with the Chinese provinces do them [TS]

00:26:19 ◼   ► all as a collection and then move on to [TS]

00:26:20 ◼   ► the american states there's only so much [TS]

00:26:24 ◼   ► labor we have in the world to create all [TS]

00:26:26 ◼   ► of these emoji can you hear that great [TS]

00:26:28 ◼   ► can you hear that sound [TS]

00:26:29 ◼   ► what sound is that the scent of your [TS]

00:26:31 ◼   ► argument crashing down [TS]

00:26:32 ◼   ► Angie I think it's perfectly solid we [TS]

00:26:36 ◼   ► have all the nations and then let's [TS]

00:26:38 ◼   ► start going through everything else in [TS]

00:26:39 ◼   ► the world by population divisions as [TS]

00:26:42 ◼   ► sets though haha but i think i did [TS]

00:26:45 ◼   ► notice in the submission and I could be [TS]

00:26:46 ◼   ► wrong on this in this submission they [TS]

00:26:49 ◼   ► were going for Scotland Wales and [TS]

00:26:51 ◼   ► England but i don't remember saying [TS]

00:26:53 ◼   ► northern ireland in the submit a seat [TS]

00:26:55 ◼   ► now it's not even consistent if that's [TS]

00:26:56 ◼   ► true that is inconsistent maybe it's not [TS]

00:26:58 ◼   ► true but i did want to quickly ask you [TS]

00:27:01 ◼   ► because you know we just love talking [TS]

00:27:02 ◼   ► about flags and this is a classic [TS]

00:27:03 ◼   ► episode right doors [TS]

00:27:05 ◼   ► I know how you feel about the Union Jack [TS]

00:27:07 ◼   ► you think it's awesome how do you feel [TS]

00:27:10 ◼   ► about the flags of england scotland and [TS]

00:27:13 ◼   ► in particular White House i love that [TS]

00:27:19 ◼   ► size just it says to me grace taking [TS]

00:27:22 ◼   ► this really seriously and you so rarely [TS]

00:27:24 ◼   ► take me seriously but it makes me feel [TS]

00:27:26 ◼   ► good [TS]

00:27:27 ◼   ► it's like you settle again suddenly i'm [TS]

00:27:29 ◼   ► not i'm not just gonna shoot from the [TS]

00:27:31 ◼   ► hip on that one [TS]

00:27:31 ◼   ► this is going to require consideration [TS]

00:27:34 ◼   ► why shoot-from-the-hip I don't think I [TS]

00:27:36 ◼   ► shoot-from-the-hip I don't think you put [TS]

00:27:38 ◼   ► a lot of thought into your answers when [TS]

00:27:39 ◼   ► i ask you questions about say the black [TS]

00:27:41 ◼   ► stump I think you I think you just say [TS]

00:27:43 ◼   ► anything to shut me up but when you go [TS]

00:27:45 ◼   ► oh I can feel your brain warming up as [TS]

00:27:50 ◼   ► you start thinking about it and I feel [TS]

00:27:54 ◼   ► about those various flags I mean the [TS]

00:27:57 ◼   ► England what makes me kind of sleepy i [TS]

00:27:59 ◼   ► think the England one is a little boring [TS]

00:28:00 ◼   ► era you know what I mean that literally [TS]

00:28:03 ◼   ► get kinda sleepy when I look at it yeah [TS]

00:28:04 ◼   ► but you know what those really really [TS]

00:28:07 ◼   ► boring flags like England which is for [TS]

00:28:09 ◼   ► those who don't know it's just white [TS]

00:28:11 ◼   ► with a red cross on it right [TS]

00:28:12 ◼   ► those flags say to me this country's old [TS]

00:28:16 ◼   ► man this country's seen some stuff [TS]

00:28:18 ◼   ► because the more boring your flag [TS]

00:28:22 ◼   ► usually the older you are because you [TS]

00:28:24 ◼   ► didn't have to do anything complicated [TS]

00:28:25 ◼   ► because they weren't that many other [TS]

00:28:26 ◼   ► flags to compete with so when someone's [TS]

00:28:29 ◼   ► gotta really really boring flag that [TS]

00:28:31 ◼   ► says to me you got you going to take [TS]

00:28:32 ◼   ► them seriously man they've seen stuff [TS]

00:28:35 ◼   ► you can't even imagine like if you're a [TS]

00:28:37 ◼   ► new country like America it's like I [TS]

00:28:38 ◼   ► let's just check some stars on there and [TS]

00:28:41 ◼   ► some struck now more stars more stars [TS]

00:28:43 ◼   ► we're going to be going to bring this [TS]

00:28:44 ◼   ► baby up man [TS]

00:28:45 ◼   ► we got to get noticed was England's like [TS]

00:28:48 ◼   ► we don't need to be noticed man like [TS]

00:28:50 ◼   ► where England move just a cross on a [TS]

00:28:52 ◼   ► white background [TS]

00:28:54 ◼   ► yeah well yeah well that's all we had [TS]

00:28:56 ◼   ► when we were making flags stars hadn't [TS]

00:28:58 ◼   ► even been invented yet [TS]

00:28:59 ◼   ► yeah and also we couldn't die cloth so [TS]

00:29:02 ◼   ► that's why i like it i guess i can try [TS]

00:29:08 ◼   ► to incorporate that into my thoughts on [TS]

00:29:10 ◼   ► it but it's still just kind of makes me [TS]

00:29:11 ◼   ► sleepy [TS]

00:29:12 ◼   ► ok it scotland which is the what's [TS]

00:29:15 ◼   ► called the South tires enough st. [TS]

00:29:17 ◼   ► Andrew's cross is that it says here on [TS]

00:29:18 ◼   ► my google thats altai is another term [TS]

00:29:21 ◼   ► for st. Andrew's cross okay even though [TS]

00:29:23 ◼   ► in theory the scottish flag is [TS]

00:29:25 ◼   ► essentially kinda like the same as the [TS]

00:29:27 ◼   ► English flag because it's just now a [TS]

00:29:28 ◼   ► white cross on a blue background [TS]

00:29:30 ◼   ► I feel like the scottish flag is so much [TS]

00:29:32 ◼   ► more exciting it doesn't make me sleepy [TS]

00:29:33 ◼   ► at all looking at it I definitely give a [TS]

00:29:35 ◼   ► thumbs-up to scottish flag without a [TS]

00:29:38 ◼   ► doubt yet I I have to agree with you [TS]

00:29:39 ◼   ► after a great i like the navy blue the [TS]

00:29:41 ◼   ► background of it i just i think it's i [TS]

00:29:43 ◼   ► think it's very good color would you say [TS]

00:29:44 ◼   ► navy blue yeah maybe [TS]

00:29:46 ◼   ► navy blue is not right navy blues too [TS]

00:29:47 ◼   ► dark i do not have a word in my [TS]

00:29:50 ◼   ► vocabulary for the color of blue that [TS]

00:29:51 ◼   ► the scottish flag is but I feel like it [TS]

00:29:53 ◼   ► is identifiable as this Scotland black [TS]

00:29:56 ◼   ► color I definitely like it [TS]

00:29:58 ◼   ► alright then what do we have here I mean [TS]

00:30:00 ◼   ► the way I was flag I'm very curious to [TS]

00:30:02 ◼   ► hear what you think of it I mean you [TS]

00:30:04 ◼   ► have to talk about the Ulster banner for [TS]

00:30:05 ◼   ► Northern Ireland well i think in keeping [TS]

00:30:08 ◼   ► with this submission maybe we should [TS]

00:30:09 ◼   ► just pretend it doesn't exist [TS]

00:30:11 ◼   ► ok sorry Northern Ireland we're gonna [TS]

00:30:12 ◼   ► skip it for today which actually makes [TS]

00:30:14 ◼   ► sense automatically for a thing that I'm [TS]

00:30:16 ◼   ► going to show you and ask about so wails [TS]

00:30:18 ◼   ► I don't know I don't know about the [TS]

00:30:21 ◼   ► whales flag [TS]

00:30:22 ◼   ► I'm never quite sure what to think about [TS]

00:30:23 ◼   ► it because on one hand they have a [TS]

00:30:26 ◼   ► dragon which takes up most of the flag [TS]

00:30:28 ◼   ► and dragons are awesome [TS]

00:30:30 ◼   ► it's hard to argue against dragons but [TS]

00:30:33 ◼   ► at the same time I'm not really sure [TS]

00:30:36 ◼   ► that I like that dragon I think for like [TS]

00:30:39 ◼   ► with many flag designs can suffer from [TS]

00:30:42 ◼   ► being overly complicated and yet kind of [TS]

00:30:46 ◼   ► childish at the same time hmmm i have [TS]

00:30:50 ◼   ► funny mixed feelings about that dragon [TS]

00:30:52 ◼   ► this is probably the best way to [TS]

00:30:54 ◼   ► summarize my thoughts in the whales flag [TS]

00:30:55 ◼   ► the further away from it i am the more I [TS]

00:30:57 ◼   ► like it [TS]

00:30:58 ◼   ► the closer I get to the whales flag [TS]

00:31:00 ◼   ► probably the less i like it i think the [TS]

00:31:02 ◼   ► word flag is awesome [TS]

00:31:03 ◼   ► mm but i realized that i probably [TS]

00:31:06 ◼   ► shouldn't and I realize you probably [TS]

00:31:07 ◼   ► shouldn't I mean certainly no child [TS]

00:31:09 ◼   ► could draw because that dragon is [TS]

00:31:10 ◼   ► incredibly complicated right and you're [TS]

00:31:13 ◼   ► right it is a weird mixture sort of [TS]

00:31:15 ◼   ► childish and complicated when I don't [TS]

00:31:18 ◼   ► know I just I think it's one of those [TS]

00:31:19 ◼   ► things that's just been part of my life [TS]

00:31:21 ◼   ► for so long that I kind of ignore that [TS]

00:31:23 ◼   ► side of a I just think it works just [TS]

00:31:25 ◼   ► switch the country and I don't know if [TS]

00:31:27 ◼   ► it's because actually sort of the [TS]

00:31:28 ◼   ► country or have just been associated for [TS]

00:31:30 ◼   ► so long in my head that I cannot [TS]

00:31:32 ◼   ► disentangle them but right this is of [TS]

00:31:34 ◼   ► course the Association problem at all [TS]

00:31:36 ◼   ► the flags have for you you're wrapping [TS]

00:31:38 ◼   ► up your feelings of the nation with the [TS]

00:31:41 ◼   ► flag itself in a way that's impossible [TS]

00:31:42 ◼   ► to distinguish yeah and i really like [TS]

00:31:45 ◼   ► way I was a nobody like Welsh people [TS]

00:31:46 ◼   ► because I'm not English most English [TS]

00:31:48 ◼   ► people don't but i'm not actually [TS]

00:31:50 ◼   ► English of course I'm Australian and [TS]

00:31:52 ◼   ► because Welsh people hate english people [TS]

00:31:54 ◼   ► and Australian say English people I feel [TS]

00:31:56 ◼   ► like they're my brothers [TS]

00:31:58 ◼   ► Wow [TS]

00:32:02 ◼   ► leave your comments on the Red Planet [TS]

00:32:04 ◼   ► some e+ tribalism right there Brady do [TS]

00:32:08 ◼   ► it [TS]

00:32:08 ◼   ► it all comes down to sport so i think [TS]

00:32:11 ◼   ► i'll ask your opinion on is I actually [TS]

00:32:14 ◼   ► think that the welsh dragon looks better [TS]

00:32:17 ◼   ► simply as an outline which I've seen in [TS]

00:32:20 ◼   ► a few design motifs like if you just [TS]

00:32:21 ◼   ► color the whole thing in his red i think [TS]

00:32:24 ◼   ► it's interesting and there is a proposed [TS]

00:32:27 ◼   ► version of the union jack flag which I [TS]

00:32:30 ◼   ► would like your opinion on which [TS]

00:32:32 ◼   ► combines the whales flag into it because [TS]

00:32:36 ◼   ► right now there is no whales iconography [TS]

00:32:38 ◼   ► on the Union Jack as it stands so i have [TS]

00:32:40 ◼   ► sent you an image and i'm curious to see [TS]

00:32:43 ◼   ► what you think of this flag [TS]

00:32:44 ◼   ► ok now file fail not just because it's [TS]

00:32:48 ◼   ► too BTW now and too complicated and the [TS]

00:32:50 ◼   ► Dragons too small but also what great [TS]

00:32:53 ◼   ► has sent me is essentially the Union [TS]

00:32:55 ◼   ► Jack with a little tiny dragon right in [TS]

00:32:56 ◼   ► the middle and it almost puts too much [TS]

00:32:59 ◼   ► emphasis on the dragon because [TS]

00:33:00 ◼   ► everything's pointing at her and it [TS]

00:33:02 ◼   ► spread the center and suddenly makes [TS]

00:33:04 ◼   ► while seem like it's the center of [TS]

00:33:06 ◼   ► everything that's a big fail [TS]

00:33:09 ◼   ► big fail big pile what about you what do [TS]

00:33:12 ◼   ► you think of that I think it's [TS]

00:33:13 ◼   ► interesting but it's also one of these [TS]

00:33:16 ◼   ► things like mandatory voting that I can [TS]

00:33:19 ◼   ► ever come to a solid opinion on every [TS]

00:33:21 ◼   ► once in awhile i remember this design of [TS]

00:33:22 ◼   ► flag with the whales dragon in the [TS]

00:33:24 ◼   ► center exist and i go back and look at [TS]

00:33:26 ◼   ► it and I can never quite make up my mind [TS]

00:33:27 ◼   ► about whether I like it or whether I [TS]

00:33:29 ◼   ► don't just like with mandatory voting go [TS]

00:33:31 ◼   ► back and forth forever for 20 years [TS]

00:33:33 ◼   ► about whether i think it's a good idea [TS]

00:33:35 ◼   ► or not and i feel that exact same way [TS]

00:33:37 ◼   ► about this flag you can't mess with the [TS]

00:33:40 ◼   ► Union Jack pray that's like if you get a [TS]

00:33:42 ◼   ► mess with that when you stop you don't [TS]

00:33:45 ◼   ► get me wrong I would never propose that [TS]

00:33:47 ◼   ► we actually changed to this flag is just [TS]

00:33:49 ◼   ► a question of do I think this is an [TS]

00:33:50 ◼   ► interesting design or not but now the [TS]

00:33:52 ◼   ► union jack is an amazing flag that will [TS]

00:33:56 ◼   ► hopefully but possibly not live forever [TS]

00:34:00 ◼   ► I am k to talk to you about Tesla em [TS]

00:34:05 ◼   ► because we didn't talk about last time [TS]

00:34:07 ◼   ► but i know you had a ride and in a Tesla [TS]

00:34:09 ◼   ► for the first time you break your [TS]

00:34:10 ◼   ► Tessler virginity I want to know what [TS]

00:34:12 ◼   ► you think about it now you've been in [TS]

00:34:14 ◼   ► one [TS]

00:34:14 ◼   ► it's like obviously it's all more real i [TS]

00:34:17 ◼   ► was wondering if you tell me anything [TS]

00:34:18 ◼   ► about I haven't asked you on or off the [TS]

00:34:20 ◼   ► air and I'm really getting to know ya so [TS]

00:34:23 ◼   ► our mutual friend Marco Arment actually [TS]

00:34:27 ◼   ► gave me a ride in his Tesla and that was [TS]

00:34:32 ◼   ► part of my travels this summer when I i [TS]

00:34:34 ◼   ► went to new york and it just worked out [TS]

00:34:36 ◼   ► that I happen to be able to possibly [TS]

00:34:39 ◼   ► meet up with Marco and then he dangled [TS]

00:34:41 ◼   ► the idea of being able to ride in a [TS]

00:34:43 ◼   ► Tesla in front of me and I was like sold [TS]

00:34:46 ◼   ► ok I have to make this happen now so i [TS]

00:34:48 ◼   ► went up to meet him and yeah we've got [TS]

00:34:50 ◼   ► to drive around in the test out for a [TS]

00:34:51 ◼   ► little while and I mean first of all [TS]

00:34:54 ◼   ► Tesla's are just super cool cars there's [TS]

00:34:57 ◼   ► no doubt about that like they just look [TS]

00:34:58 ◼   ► cool from the outside and nice-looking [TS]

00:35:00 ◼   ► yeah and I had never actually sat in one [TS]

00:35:04 ◼   ► on the inside and on the inside as well [TS]

00:35:06 ◼   ► like the test those are just cool [TS]

00:35:07 ◼   ► everything about them is super sleek I [TS]

00:35:10 ◼   ► think and one of the things that I [TS]

00:35:13 ◼   ► wanted to see in the test level were [TS]

00:35:15 ◼   ► driving around that is hard to get a [TS]

00:35:17 ◼   ► sense of from just looking at pictures [TS]

00:35:19 ◼   ► is how does this big screen [TS]

00:35:22 ◼   ► work in the center because that such the [TS]

00:35:24 ◼   ► different thing about the interior of [TS]

00:35:26 ◼   ► that car versus other cars so I kept [TS]

00:35:28 ◼   ► looking out on the road I guess we're [TS]

00:35:30 ◼   ► driving around trying to see how does [TS]

00:35:31 ◼   ► this screen work in my peripheral vision [TS]

00:35:33 ◼   ► and especially because i am someone who [TS]

00:35:37 ◼   ► the older I get I find I have more and [TS]

00:35:39 ◼   ► more motion sickness and cars if I look [TS]

00:35:42 ◼   ► down and look up even briefly to read [TS]

00:35:44 ◼   ► those kind of curious to see like if I'm [TS]

00:35:46 ◼   ► looking at the the window and then [TS]

00:35:48 ◼   ► looking down the screen looking back up [TS]

00:35:49 ◼   ► and have to say because the screen is so [TS]

00:35:51 ◼   ► huge I think it really works on the [TS]

00:35:55 ◼   ► interior and it was nice to see that [TS]

00:35:56 ◼   ► they had thought through a bunch of [TS]

00:35:58 ◼   ► clever design elements about how to [TS]

00:36:01 ◼   ► control a bunch of things from the [TS]

00:36:02 ◼   ► steering wheel or sections of the screen [TS]

00:36:05 ◼   ► that never ever ever changed so that [TS]

00:36:07 ◼   ► like in the bottom corners you can [TS]

00:36:08 ◼   ► always have muscle memory for making the [TS]

00:36:10 ◼   ► car do certain things I think like [TS]

00:36:12 ◼   ► temperature controls and some other [TS]

00:36:13 ◼   ► stuff was down there so from the inside [TS]

00:36:16 ◼   ► I was very very impressed with the Tesla [TS]

00:36:19 ◼   ► i have to say i quite liked it so marco [TS]

00:36:22 ◼   ► was showing off the super fast [TS]

00:36:25 ◼   ► acceleration which I did not like [TS]

00:36:27 ◼   ► because I don't appreciate the sensation [TS]

00:36:29 ◼   ► of super fast acceleration that was very [TS]

00:36:31 ◼   ► impressive as like you can keep showing [TS]

00:36:35 ◼   ► this off if you don't mind cleaning the [TS]

00:36:37 ◼   ► interior of your car shortly [TS]

00:36:39 ◼   ► that's a game you can play if you want [TS]

00:36:41 ◼   ► to but a bunch of the things that the [TS]

00:36:43 ◼   ► car does as well just seems so natural [TS]

00:36:46 ◼   ► like for example that there's no jarring [TS]

00:36:49 ◼   ► because of gear changing it just seems [TS]

00:36:51 ◼   ► like this is the way cars should work [TS]

00:36:53 ◼   ► you don't miss it at all like oh boy I [TS]

00:36:55 ◼   ► wish this car was really Jenky is it [TS]

00:36:57 ◼   ► accelerated as it as it tries to [TS]

00:36:58 ◼   ► manually shift through gears right it [TS]

00:37:00 ◼   ► doesn't do that at all so that's [TS]

00:37:02 ◼   ► fantastic [TS]

00:37:03 ◼   ► and then finally the thing that I was [TS]

00:37:05 ◼   ► most interested to see was a lot of the [TS]

00:37:07 ◼   ► self-driving stuff in person [TS]

00:37:10 ◼   ► yeah and i know that i am the wrong [TS]

00:37:13 ◼   ► person to evaluate this in some ways [TS]

00:37:16 ◼   ► because it's a thing that I have a lot [TS]

00:37:19 ◼   ► of interest and but I felt again like [TS]

00:37:22 ◼   ► the self-driving stuff was also natural [TS]

00:37:25 ◼   ► that it was entirely unremarkable there [TS]

00:37:29 ◼   ► was no moment of like wow I'm in a [TS]

00:37:31 ◼   ► self-driving car and a lot [TS]

00:37:32 ◼   ► like watching this thing trying to [TS]

00:37:33 ◼   ► navigate the highway and stuff is like [TS]

00:37:35 ◼   ► yeah this just seems natural just like [TS]

00:37:37 ◼   ► no gear shifts the self-driving stuff it [TS]

00:37:39 ◼   ► seems like this is just the way car [TS]

00:37:41 ◼   ► should work [TS]

00:37:42 ◼   ► this is the way I want these things [TS]

00:37:43 ◼   ► because it just plod along and it's like [TS]

00:37:45 ◼   ► it doesn't like change lanes and do over [TS]

00:37:47 ◼   ► text does or doesn't like how much does [TS]

00:37:49 ◼   ► it don't sign at the moment [TS]

00:37:50 ◼   ► yeah so this was one of the things that [TS]

00:37:52 ◼   ► it was a bit of a funny experience [TS]

00:37:53 ◼   ► because in the discussion of how soon [TS]

00:37:58 ◼   ► are self-driving cars coming [TS]

00:38:00 ◼   ► Marco owning a Tesla and actually using [TS]

00:38:04 ◼   ► self driving features thinks that I am [TS]

00:38:06 ◼   ► being overly optimistic about how soon [TS]

00:38:08 ◼   ► these things are are going to arrive and [TS]

00:38:11 ◼   ► part of what he wanted to show me in the [TS]

00:38:14 ◼   ► demo was situations under which it [TS]

00:38:16 ◼   ► doesn't work or it doesn't always do [TS]

00:38:18 ◼   ► precisely what you would expect it to do [TS]

00:38:20 ◼   ► and so he was trying to show me a bunch [TS]

00:38:22 ◼   ► of this stuff but my experience of [TS]

00:38:24 ◼   ► sitting in the car was mostly thinking [TS]

00:38:25 ◼   ► like I think the cars doing pretty well [TS]

00:38:27 ◼   ► I think that's the only great there was [TS]

00:38:29 ◼   ► a situation where we were on the highway [TS]

00:38:31 ◼   ► and he has his hands off of the wheel [TS]

00:38:34 ◼   ► and the car is driving on the highway [TS]

00:38:36 ◼   ► and what it does is it stays in its own [TS]

00:38:38 ◼   ► lane and it tries to keep an appropriate [TS]

00:38:40 ◼   ► distance from the car in front of it but [TS]

00:38:41 ◼   ► you can tell the Tesla I would like to [TS]

00:38:44 ◼   ► turn lanes without actually forcing it [TS]

00:38:48 ◼   ► to and so the car makes a decision about [TS]

00:38:50 ◼   ► whether or not it's going to change [TS]

00:38:51 ◼   ► lanes and so marco was able to [TS]

00:38:54 ◼   ► essentially put the car in a situation [TS]

00:38:56 ◼   ► where he told it to change lanes but the [TS]

00:39:00 ◼   ► car wouldn't even though there was [TS]

00:39:02 ◼   ► nothing blocking the way right like the [TS]

00:39:04 ◼   ► test low clearly thought that there was [TS]

00:39:06 ◼   ► some reason it shouldn't change lanes [TS]

00:39:07 ◼   ► even though everything was fine like a [TS]

00:39:08 ◼   ► human driver would think it was okay and [TS]

00:39:11 ◼   ► I was looking at that thinking yeah like [TS]

00:39:13 ◼   ► that's a mistake like the car should be [TS]

00:39:15 ◼   ► changing lanes but it's not but if the [TS]

00:39:17 ◼   ► thing is overly cautious like I can [TS]

00:39:20 ◼   ► hardly fault it [TS]

00:39:21 ◼   ► yeah I mean it's a pretty amazing thing [TS]

00:39:23 ◼   ► it's like God has parted the Red Sea and [TS]

00:39:25 ◼   ► people are complaining that the sand is [TS]

00:39:26 ◼   ► still a bit damp yeah hello my feet are [TS]

00:39:28 ◼   ► getting wet [TS]

00:39:29 ◼   ► yeah i mean i would be remiss therefore [TS]

00:39:33 ◼   ► to not now bring up the fact we did have [TS]

00:39:34 ◼   ► her first death [TS]

00:39:36 ◼   ► yeah in a Tesla this obviously has [TS]

00:39:38 ◼   ► crossed your radar at Tesla had a crash [TS]

00:39:40 ◼   ► while in this auto drive mode and a lot [TS]

00:39:43 ◼   ► of people said I was great say about [TS]

00:39:45 ◼   ► that [TS]

00:39:45 ◼   ► so what's great about that well it had [TS]

00:39:49 ◼   ► to happen didn't that [TS]

00:39:50 ◼   ► yeah that's exactly its it was [TS]

00:39:52 ◼   ► absolutely inevitable that somebody you [TS]

00:39:55 ◼   ► would die eventually in a Tesla and I [TS]

00:39:59 ◼   ► think the very fact that that is a news [TS]

00:40:01 ◼   ► story goes to show you how I think this [TS]

00:40:04 ◼   ► is incredibly rare and i forget what the [TS]

00:40:06 ◼   ► numbers are but Tesla came out with the [TS]

00:40:07 ◼   ► numbers but like how many millions and [TS]

00:40:09 ◼   ► millions of human miles have been driven [TS]

00:40:11 ◼   ► in the autopilot system and now we [TS]

00:40:13 ◼   ► finally have one person has died [TS]

00:40:16 ◼   ► to me this stuff is always just a [TS]

00:40:17 ◼   ► question of there's some group of people [TS]

00:40:21 ◼   ► who think it needs to be perfect before [TS]

00:40:23 ◼   ► people start using it and i am not in [TS]

00:40:26 ◼   ► that group [TS]

00:40:27 ◼   ► my only question is is it better than [TS]

00:40:29 ◼   ► human drivers and again like the Tesla [TS]

00:40:31 ◼   ► can't drive point-to-point there's lots [TS]

00:40:33 ◼   ► of things they can't do there's lots of [TS]

00:40:35 ◼   ► ways it's kind of cheating so like one [TS]

00:40:36 ◼   ► of the things marker showed me that I I [TS]

00:40:38 ◼   ► didn't know is that on local roads where [TS]

00:40:41 ◼   ► the Tesla is clearly much more uncertain [TS]

00:40:44 ◼   ► about turns and speed limits and all the [TS]

00:40:46 ◼   ► rest of this it has a kind of cheating [TS]

00:40:48 ◼   ► mode where it'll follow a car in front [TS]

00:40:51 ◼   ► of its on local roads in situations [TS]

00:40:54 ◼   ► where it seems like it couldn't self [TS]

00:40:56 ◼   ► drive itself and I thought that's [TS]

00:40:57 ◼   ► interesting [TS]

00:40:58 ◼   ► this is a case where yes on a local road [TS]

00:41:00 ◼   ► it is much more limited and it does way [TS]

00:41:02 ◼   ► better on a highway so again this stuff [TS]

00:41:05 ◼   ► isn't self self driving but it's like I [TS]

00:41:08 ◼   ► really feel like it's gonna be better [TS]

00:41:09 ◼   ► than human drivers very shortly [TS]

00:41:12 ◼   ► yes people will die but you know [TS]

00:41:15 ◼   ► horrific numbers of people died on the [TS]

00:41:18 ◼   ► roads right now so when people sent via [TS]

00:41:21 ◼   ► Twitter and a whole bunch of other ways [TS]

00:41:23 ◼   ► like oh my gosh what do I think about [TS]

00:41:24 ◼   ► someone dying in a Tesla like well I [TS]

00:41:27 ◼   ► don't really think about it very much i [TS]

00:41:29 ◼   ► just i just do not think it matters i [TS]

00:41:31 ◼   ► don't think it's an important news story [TS]

00:41:33 ◼   ► in anyway when do you disagree with that [TS]

00:41:36 ◼   ► now i don't actually I i greatly i mean [TS]

00:41:38 ◼   ► i don't want to sort of fire up the [TS]

00:41:41 ◼   ► cheer pressure or have you know have [TS]

00:41:43 ◼   ► people pylon and I know there's all this [TS]

00:41:45 ◼   ► debate about the incident itself but if [TS]

00:41:48 ◼   ► it was caused by the fact that the [TS]

00:41:50 ◼   ► camera and the computer couldn't tell [TS]

00:41:51 ◼   ► the difference between the white side of [TS]

00:41:53 ◼   ► the lorry and the white sky that is [TS]

00:41:56 ◼   ► quite a motive it's quite a good scare [TS]

00:41:58 ◼   ► story you know [TS]

00:41:58 ◼   ► and if it is the case i hope they fix it [TS]

00:42:00 ◼   ► but I kind of agree its peak cliche but [TS]

00:42:04 ◼   ► you know people died in plane crashes [TS]

00:42:06 ◼   ► all the time it doesn't stop is flying [TS]

00:42:07 ◼   ► and things like that so I think it's not [TS]

00:42:10 ◼   ► like a big deal but this move to [TS]

00:42:13 ◼   ► self-driving cars is less of a [TS]

00:42:17 ◼   ► technology battle and more of a battle [TS]

00:42:19 ◼   ► for hearts and minds [TS]

00:42:20 ◼   ► I have to say I've come to your way of [TS]

00:42:22 ◼   ► thinking you know I always thought this [TS]

00:42:24 ◼   ► was further away in the future then you [TS]

00:42:26 ◼   ► did and I now think it's closer [TS]

00:42:29 ◼   ► it just seems to be all happening so [TS]

00:42:30 ◼   ► quickly now so many trials so many [TS]

00:42:33 ◼   ► implementations in sort of real-world [TS]

00:42:35 ◼   ► environments that I thought was a bit [TS]

00:42:37 ◼   ► further down the road it's already [TS]

00:42:38 ◼   ► happening so I'm sort of thinking great [TS]

00:42:41 ◼   ► was right on this one I think this is [TS]

00:42:42 ◼   ► gonna happen quick now a question I have [TS]

00:42:45 ◼   ► for you because you are much more [TS]

00:42:47 ◼   ► plugged into the news than I am because [TS]

00:42:49 ◼   ► my only experience of hearing about the [TS]

00:42:51 ◼   ► story is people individually contacting [TS]

00:42:53 ◼   ► me about it but i'm willing to bet like [TS]

00:42:58 ◼   ► this story's not gaining a huge amount [TS]

00:43:00 ◼   ► of traction it is a news story and of [TS]

00:43:04 ◼   ► course like that the news is filled with [TS]

00:43:06 ◼   ► anomalous events like that basically [TS]

00:43:08 ◼   ► what the news is a collection of things [TS]

00:43:10 ◼   ► that are unusual but is this gaining [TS]

00:43:13 ◼   ► lots of traction like our people super [TS]

00:43:14 ◼   ► concerned or is this just yet another in [TS]

00:43:17 ◼   ► the endless stream of news stories that [TS]

00:43:19 ◼   ► just washes by that nobody really cares [TS]

00:43:21 ◼   ► about two weeks later it happened a good [TS]

00:43:23 ◼   ► time for Tesla because there's so many [TS]

00:43:25 ◼   ► other massive things happening in the [TS]

00:43:27 ◼   ► world of the moment that in the fight [TS]

00:43:29 ◼   ► first news time and coverage it probably [TS]

00:43:31 ◼   ► didn't get as much as it could have a [TS]

00:43:33 ◼   ► fair bit of a break like you know and [TS]

00:43:35 ◼   ► it's still coming up and still being [TS]

00:43:37 ◼   ► brought up in articles and i'm still [TS]

00:43:38 ◼   ► seeing around the place like when you [TS]

00:43:40 ◼   ► say it's a battle for hearts and minds [TS]

00:43:41 ◼   ► I'm not even convinced that that's the [TS]

00:43:43 ◼   ► case I feel like there has been a real [TS]

00:43:45 ◼   ► silent shift in people's thoughts on [TS]

00:43:49 ◼   ► self-driving cars i have a feeling that [TS]

00:43:52 ◼   ► much much more of the population feels [TS]

00:43:55 ◼   ► that [TS]

00:43:55 ◼   ► oh this is just a thing that's coming [TS]

00:43:56 ◼   ► and I don't bet that this is going to be [TS]

00:43:59 ◼   ► like a a big story that causes problems [TS]

00:44:01 ◼   ► for Tesla in the long run i have a hard [TS]

00:44:05 ◼   ► time imagining that's going to be the [TS]

00:44:06 ◼   ► case I think you're I think the only [TS]

00:44:08 ◼   ► thing that's gonna hurt [TS]

00:44:09 ◼   ► tesslar and the other people advocating [TS]

00:44:12 ◼   ► self-driving cars will pay a spite or [TS]

00:44:15 ◼   ► like some kind of glitch where three or [TS]

00:44:18 ◼   ► four happen in the same way so i think [TS]

00:44:20 ◼   ► you're right i think the one-off hasn't [TS]

00:44:22 ◼   ► hurt him really badly and I want to get [TS]

00:44:24 ◼   ► her if there's some systemic problem is [TS]

00:44:27 ◼   ► there anything you didn't like about the [TS]

00:44:28 ◼   ► Tesla well it was funny because when i [TS]

00:44:30 ◼   ► was sitting in the car and we're driving [TS]

00:44:33 ◼   ► along the road [TS]

00:44:34 ◼   ► I'm thinking wow everything in this test [TS]

00:44:35 ◼   ► seems amazing like I love this future [TS]

00:44:37 ◼   ► space car i wish i could have any reason [TS]

00:44:40 ◼   ► to buy one right there like no real [TS]

00:44:42 ◼   ► always I could have reason to buy 1i [TS]

00:44:44 ◼   ► asked Marco the same question I said is [TS]

00:44:47 ◼   ► there anything about this car that you [TS]

00:44:49 ◼   ► don't like and he had a couple of minor [TS]

00:44:53 ◼   ► just likes about it but overall he [TS]

00:44:57 ◼   ► seemed really really happy with the car [TS]

00:44:59 ◼   ► as well and so I feel like I had nothing [TS]

00:45:02 ◼   ► in particular to say like oh I didn't [TS]

00:45:03 ◼   ► like this about the car struck me as [TS]

00:45:05 ◼   ► totally wrong and the owner of the car [TS]

00:45:07 ◼   ► had a few complaints but nothing I can [TS]

00:45:09 ◼   ► even remember at this at this later [TS]

00:45:11 ◼   ► point of being like oh wow that's a [TS]

00:45:13 ◼   ► really good point like that that is that [TS]

00:45:15 ◼   ► is a really annoying feature that I [TS]

00:45:16 ◼   ► wouldn't have thought about it wouldn't [TS]

00:45:17 ◼   ► have realized until I own it is like [TS]

00:45:19 ◼   ► nope everything about this car seems [TS]

00:45:21 ◼   ► amazing so two thumbs up for Tesla this [TS]

00:45:25 ◼   ► episode of Hello internet is brought to [TS]

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00:45:29 ◼   ► how many of you might be working at a [TS]

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00:45:37 ◼   ► software to work with i mean actually [TS]

00:45:39 ◼   ► isn't even really a piece of software it [TS]

00:45:41 ◼   ► feels much more like it's a bunch of [TS]

00:45:43 ◼   ► pipes connected to old computers held [TS]

00:45:46 ◼   ► together with duct tape most internets [TS]

00:45:49 ◼   ► are just awful [TS]

00:45:50 ◼   ► I used awful internets at my school but [TS]

00:45:53 ◼   ► igloo is something different [TS]

00:45:55 ◼   ► igloo is a feeling of levity compared to [TS]

00:45:58 ◼   ► other internets because igloo is an [TS]

00:46:01 ◼   ► internet you will actually like go to [TS]

00:46:04 ◼   ► igloo software.com /hello and just take [TS]

00:46:08 ◼   ► a look at the way igloo looks they have [TS]

00:46:11 ◼   ► a nice clean modern design that will [TS]

00:46:15 ◼   ► just be a relief on your sad tired eyes [TS]

00:46:18 ◼   ► compared to the internet that you are [TS]

00:46:20 ◼   ► currently working with at your [TS]

00:46:22 ◼   ► company and he glues not just a pretty [TS]

00:46:23 ◼   ► face igloo lets you share news organize [TS]

00:46:26 ◼   ► your files coordinate calendars and [TS]

00:46:29 ◼   ► manage your projects all in one place [TS]

00:46:31 ◼   ► and it's not just files in a bucket [TS]

00:46:34 ◼   ► either their latest upgrade Viking [TS]

00:46:36 ◼   ► revolves around interacting with [TS]

00:46:39 ◼   ► documents how people make changes to [TS]

00:46:41 ◼   ► them how you can receive feedback on [TS]

00:46:43 ◼   ► them if you're the man in charge there [TS]

00:46:45 ◼   ► is an ability to track who has seen what [TS]

00:46:48 ◼   ► across the internet so you can have [TS]

00:46:50 ◼   ► something like read receipts in email [TS]

00:46:52 ◼   ► where you know if everyone has actually [TS]

00:46:55 ◼   ► seen and signed off on whatever document [TS]

00:46:58 ◼   ► they need to so if your company has a [TS]

00:47:01 ◼   ► legacy internet that looks like it was [TS]

00:47:03 ◼   ► built in the nineteen nineties then you [TS]

00:47:06 ◼   ► should give igloo a try please sign up [TS]

00:47:09 ◼   ► for a free trial at igloo software.com / [TS]

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00:47:16 ◼   ► from us you do some corners i see we [TS]

00:47:20 ◼   ► have a paper cut corner here [TS]

00:47:22 ◼   ► oh yeah Brady's paper cup there's a lot [TS]

00:47:26 ◼   ► of sport going on in the world [TS]

00:47:27 ◼   ► environment gray oh boy there always [TS]

00:47:30 ◼   ► seems to be an idea isn't there always [TS]

00:47:32 ◼   ► sports there should always be sport [TS]

00:47:34 ◼   ► because people love sporting events so [TS]

00:47:37 ◼   ► there should always be sporting events [TS]

00:47:38 ◼   ► going on right yeah but we've been [TS]

00:47:40 ◼   ► there's been a rich vein just lightly [TS]

00:47:42 ◼   ► okay anyway anyway likes always up there [TS]

00:47:45 ◼   ► so everyone saying to me [TS]

00:47:47 ◼   ► arto gray about Iceland the euros or [TS]

00:47:49 ◼   ► whales at the euros or tell them about [TS]

00:47:51 ◼   ► this or tell him about that and there's [TS]

00:47:54 ◼   ► no point doing that now that i'm not [TS]

00:47:56 ◼   ► going to do that I don't think you are a [TS]

00:47:59 ◼   ► few nations that have had unexpected [TS]

00:48:02 ◼   ► success in the euros does not compare [TS]

00:48:04 ◼   ► into my mind with the amazing story that [TS]

00:48:06 ◼   ► is Leicester City just cause I brought [TS]

00:48:08 ◼   ► up that list a city story i'm not going [TS]

00:48:09 ◼   ► to bring up every underdog story that [TS]

00:48:11 ◼   ► happens in sport on the podcast because [TS]

00:48:13 ◼   ► gray will probably stop being my friend [TS]

00:48:15 ◼   ► yeah very likely imagine i have just as [TS]

00:48:19 ◼   ► much patience for this stuff as your [TS]

00:48:20 ◼   ► wife would get some somewhat but not an [TS]

00:48:25 ◼   ► infinite well ok it's so all the sport [TS]

00:48:29 ◼   ► i've been watching lately in the media [TS]

00:48:30 ◼   ► coverage lately has brought up two [TS]

00:48:32 ◼   ► things there's two things I've noticed [TS]

00:48:34 ◼   ► that get [TS]

00:48:35 ◼   ► I go to annoy me ok so i thought i'd [TS]

00:48:38 ◼   ► bring them up one is when it's [TS]

00:48:42 ◼   ► commentators and pundits and people [TS]

00:48:44 ◼   ► telling the story of sport talk about [TS]

00:48:47 ◼   ► getting revenge for banishing memories [TS]

00:48:50 ◼   ► and I think there's a real inequality in [TS]

00:48:52 ◼   ► it that shows how much they live in the [TS]

00:48:54 ◼   ► moment let me give you an example say [TS]

00:48:57 ◼   ► two teams play in the world cup final [TS]

00:48:59 ◼   ► against a liberia plays China the world [TS]

00:49:03 ◼   ► cup final ok right and left it at ya and [TS]

00:49:06 ◼   ► Liberia win right the next time those [TS]

00:49:09 ◼   ► two countries made and it could be in a [TS]

00:49:11 ◼   ► lesser tournament and it could be like [TS]

00:49:13 ◼   ► in the quarterfinals and this time China [TS]

00:49:17 ◼   ► win commentators always say they got [TS]

00:49:20 ◼   ► their revenge they banish the memories [TS]

00:49:22 ◼   ► of that world cup loss and they finally [TS]

00:49:24 ◼   ► got their revenge on liberia by beating [TS]

00:49:27 ◼   ► them there is not revenge [TS]

00:49:30 ◼   ► the only way you can get like total [TS]

00:49:33 ◼   ► revenge for a sporting loss is to have [TS]

00:49:38 ◼   ► an equivalent game like another world [TS]

00:49:40 ◼   ► cup final and this time win that's the [TS]

00:49:43 ◼   ► only way you can erase the memory or get [TS]

00:49:45 ◼   ► them back or square the ledger but [TS]

00:49:48 ◼   ► because sports people always want to [TS]

00:49:49 ◼   ► hype up the current game by the way say [TS]

00:49:52 ◼   ► this game is a chance to get revenge for [TS]

00:49:54 ◼   ► that previous game it is not revenge if [TS]

00:49:57 ◼   ► it is not the same tournament at the [TS]

00:50:00 ◼   ► same level meeting someone in a [TS]

00:50:02 ◼   ► quarterfinal four years after you lost [TS]

00:50:05 ◼   ► in the final that's not revenge and [TS]

00:50:09 ◼   ► noise me I thought you were going to say [TS]

00:50:11 ◼   ► the only way for China to get revenge in [TS]

00:50:14 ◼   ► this scenario would be to take over an [TS]

00:50:16 ◼   ► axe liberia clothes and let me tell you [TS]

00:50:20 ◼   ► what revenge is revenge is wiping [TS]

00:50:22 ◼   ► liberia off the face of the earth right [TS]

00:50:25 ◼   ► does does taking turns winning a game [TS]

00:50:27 ◼   ► you're playing with each other [TS]

00:50:29 ◼   ► is there any way that they can even [TS]

00:50:30 ◼   ► remotely count as revenge [TS]

00:50:32 ◼   ► no it cannot know what I mean that's [TS]

00:50:35 ◼   ► there that would be guide the other way [TS]

00:50:37 ◼   ► I think the whole premise of of even [TS]

00:50:39 ◼   ► revenge in a sporting event doesn't make [TS]

00:50:41 ◼   ► any sense even if the games are [TS]

00:50:43 ◼   ► equivalent it still doesn't make any [TS]

00:50:45 ◼   ► sense at all like you're playing a game [TS]

00:50:47 ◼   ► with each other and [TS]

00:50:48 ◼   ► 11 and then someone else one as will [TS]

00:50:51 ◼   ► inevitably happen [TS]

00:50:53 ◼   ► revenge is something that you plot [TS]

00:50:55 ◼   ► stealthily for four years and like you [TS]

00:50:57 ◼   ► spring upon your opponent when they have [TS]

00:50:59 ◼   ► no idea what's going to happen as [TS]

00:51:01 ◼   ► opposed to a thing that takes place [TS]

00:51:03 ◼   ► within a rigid and ordered system that [TS]

00:51:06 ◼   ► has rules that we all agree on [TS]

00:51:08 ◼   ► I don't think the concept of revenge [TS]

00:51:10 ◼   ► makes any sense in this whole arena [TS]

00:51:13 ◼   ► well okay maybe you don't like the word [TS]

00:51:14 ◼   ► revenge but there's just there's this [TS]

00:51:16 ◼   ► whole thing about squaring the ledger [TS]

00:51:18 ◼   ► you know getting them back for the [TS]

00:51:19 ◼   ► defeat and say you defeat us in this [TS]

00:51:22 ◼   ► game now we defeated you everything even [TS]

00:51:24 ◼   ► my say everything is not even if the [TS]

00:51:27 ◼   ► game is not the same importance but [TS]

00:51:29 ◼   ► commentators don't seem to realize that [TS]

00:51:31 ◼   ► they want to hype up the game they're [TS]

00:51:32 ◼   ► talking about i'm sure they totally do [TS]

00:51:34 ◼   ► realize it but they're doing what you [TS]

00:51:36 ◼   ► did precisely what you're saying they're [TS]

00:51:37 ◼   ► just trying to hype it up it's just like [TS]

00:51:39 ◼   ► the news Brady right they know a lot of [TS]

00:51:41 ◼   ► the stuff that they're talking about is [TS]

00:51:42 ◼   ► dumb and won't matter in a week what [TS]

00:51:44 ◼   ► they want to hype it up so that it feels [TS]

00:51:45 ◼   ► like it's really important right now [TS]

00:51:47 ◼   ► don't you agree with that analogy is a [TS]

00:51:49 ◼   ► bit of that moving right along and the [TS]

00:51:52 ◼   ► other thing that's really getting on my [TS]

00:51:54 ◼   ► nerves at the moment in especially in [TS]

00:51:56 ◼   ► the world of sport but i know it [TS]

00:51:57 ◼   ► pervades all media is this thing [TS]

00:52:00 ◼   ► everyone does where they use three words [TS]

00:52:04 ◼   ► and they punctuate it is a lot of sport [TS]

00:52:07 ◼   ► my twitter feed and say someone scores a [TS]

00:52:09 ◼   ► goal in a game sports ball will be this [TS]

00:52:12 ◼   ► tweet from some supposedly reputable [TS]

00:52:14 ◼   ► organization usually the BBC suddenly [TS]

00:52:17 ◼   ► writing like some tane vlogger and they [TS]

00:52:20 ◼   ► will say what I go all capitalized which [TS]

00:52:25 ◼   ► I hate because that's like the internet [TS]

00:52:27 ◼   ► equivalent of shouting and the only a [TS]

00:52:28 ◼   ► full stop after every word 14 stop a [TS]

00:52:33 ◼   ► full stop and go our man that knows me [TS]

00:52:37 ◼   ► it & noise that may apparently there are [TS]

00:52:42 ◼   ► there are forums and things dedicated to [TS]

00:52:44 ◼   ► people who hate this but this is this is [TS]

00:52:46 ◼   ► really getting me at the moment do you [TS]

00:52:47 ◼   ► are you familiar with this it's becoming [TS]

00:52:50 ◼   ► give a me thing to do isn't it to sort [TS]

00:52:51 ◼   ► of have these three punctuated words to [TS]

00:52:54 ◼   ► add emphasis this is just people trying [TS]

00:52:56 ◼   ► to communicate on the Internet with the [TS]

00:52:58 ◼   ► limited bandwidth that you have for [TS]

00:53:00 ◼   ► twitter i have not seen [TS]

00:53:02 ◼   ► it's in particular maybe this is a a [TS]

00:53:04 ◼   ► sporting thing that will eventually [TS]

00:53:06 ◼   ► bleed over into my internet as well it [TS]

00:53:09 ◼   ► happens in politics as well a bit i [TS]

00:53:11 ◼   ► think and sports and politics the two [TS]

00:53:13 ◼   ► things i followed so closely so no i [TS]

00:53:15 ◼   ► have not seen these on my twitter [TS]

00:53:16 ◼   ► timeline when this episode comes out I'm [TS]

00:53:19 ◼   ► going to tweet brand full stop new [TS]

00:53:21 ◼   ► all-star episode perfect hashtag hello [TS]

00:53:25 ◼   ► internet right and you know what let's [TS]

00:53:28 ◼   ► see if just like click reading headlines [TS]

00:53:30 ◼   ► are you we get tremendous traffic from [TS]

00:53:32 ◼   ► that we try to get sweet retweet it all [TS]

00:53:34 ◼   ► over the place people go nuts for it [TS]

00:53:36 ◼   ► right because that's that's probably why [TS]

00:53:37 ◼   ► people are doing this that people like [TS]

00:53:39 ◼   ► it [TS]

00:53:39 ◼   ► alright everyone go ahead send me your [TS]

00:53:41 ◼   ► three-word tweets and i'll block you [TS]

00:53:48 ◼   ► tell you what what are we going to keep [TS]

00:53:52 ◼   ► classical on here great you gonna let me [TS]

00:53:53 ◼   ► keep going as always I feel like the [TS]

00:53:56 ◼   ► first half three-quarters eighty percent [TS]

00:53:58 ◼   ► of the show is always somehow like out [TS]

00:54:00 ◼   ► of my control [TS]

00:54:01 ◼   ► yeah and then i'll let you drown on for [TS]

00:54:03 ◼   ► 20 minutes at the end what I have a [TS]

00:54:04 ◼   ► little nap exactly like it one little go [TS]

00:54:06 ◼   ► on is like no Brady just throwing out [TS]

00:54:08 ◼   ► topics are hosted let's do that like [TS]

00:54:10 ◼   ► this ok go with this [TS]

00:54:11 ◼   ► maybe we'll cut that mean we won't who [TS]

00:54:13 ◼   ► knows right just go go you stop with the [TS]

00:54:15 ◼   ► little one with you're like ooh can I [TS]

00:54:16 ◼   ► try this is like whatever man I with [TS]

00:54:18 ◼   ► this stage you're just gonna go with it [TS]

00:54:20 ◼   ► so what do you want to do next in our [TS]

00:54:23 ◼   ► classic episodes [TS]

00:54:25 ◼   ► what do you think is going to happen [TS]

00:54:25 ◼   ► next well you know what the most [TS]

00:54:27 ◼   ► requested corners of Oh even you must [TS]

00:54:30 ◼   ► know this plane crash corner [TS]

00:54:33 ◼   ► you said it all right is there a plane [TS]

00:54:37 ◼   ► crash that you want to talk about i do [TS]

00:54:40 ◼   ► want to talk about a plane crash but [TS]

00:54:41 ◼   ► first of all I want to tell you that I [TS]

00:54:43 ◼   ► flew for the first time by the way I [TS]

00:54:46 ◼   ► haven't said but I'm in San Francisco [TS]

00:54:48 ◼   ► Department and you're back in England [TS]

00:54:50 ◼   ► yeah like it's like we're alternating [TS]

00:54:51 ◼   ► between episodes we essentially past [TS]

00:54:54 ◼   ► each other like ships in the night one [TS]

00:54:56 ◼   ► going to and one coming from California [TS]

00:54:58 ◼   ► so yeah we already did we are now in the [TS]

00:55:00 ◼   ► opposite positions again recording with [TS]

00:55:04 ◼   ► of course California's fantastic time [TS]

00:55:07 ◼   ► zone shift which makes everything super [TS]

00:55:08 ◼   ► convenient but I flew in the and I think [TS]

00:55:13 ◼   ► it must have been the first time I fly [TS]

00:55:14 ◼   ► in one in [TS]

00:55:15 ◼   ► the 787 boeing 787 dreamliner oh the the [TS]

00:55:21 ◼   ► Tesla of the skies maybe and maybe I'm [TS]

00:55:25 ◼   ► overstating the case of it there but it [TS]

00:55:27 ◼   ► is super high-tech I don't have been on [TS]

00:55:29 ◼   ► one but the thing that blew my mind was [TS]

00:55:31 ◼   ► the windows in this plane [TS]

00:55:33 ◼   ► are you familiar with the windows in the [TS]

00:55:35 ◼   ► Dreamliner I've heard of this plane i [TS]

00:55:37 ◼   ► have never been in one I've never really [TS]

00:55:39 ◼   ► looked it up I'm just pulling up some [TS]

00:55:40 ◼   ► pictures now but what's up with the [TS]

00:55:41 ◼   ► windows because from the outside at [TS]

00:55:43 ◼   ► least they look like normal windows [TS]

00:55:45 ◼   ► yeah they're a little bit bigger than [TS]

00:55:46 ◼   ► normal but also they have in them [TS]

00:55:50 ◼   ► this electric gel so there's no shutter [TS]

00:55:53 ◼   ► that you pull up and down is just [TS]

00:55:54 ◼   ► buttons underneath and you press buttons [TS]

00:55:57 ◼   ► and it tense the window to different [TS]

00:56:00 ◼   ► levels depending on your setting and [TS]

00:56:02 ◼   ► also it puts this strange Hugh in the [TS]

00:56:04 ◼   ► windows so if you're flying in the [TS]

00:56:06 ◼   ► middle of the day I happened to fly in [TS]

00:56:08 ◼   ► the middle of the day from England to [TS]

00:56:09 ◼   ► California which can be quite [TS]

00:56:11 ◼   ► disorienting and not that good for your [TS]

00:56:14 ◼   ► body but it cast this like a bluish hue [TS]

00:56:17 ◼   ► across the windows for most of the [TS]

00:56:19 ◼   ► flight so kind of like night outside [TS]

00:56:21 ◼   ► like the Sun that like the moon and all [TS]

00:56:24 ◼   ► the landscape had this blue he look to [TS]

00:56:26 ◼   ► it like it was nighttime and I felt like [TS]

00:56:27 ◼   ► it was night it was amazing [TS]

00:56:30 ◼   ► so you could still look out the window [TS]

00:56:31 ◼   ► and see like the terrain below but you [TS]

00:56:33 ◼   ► felt like you were looking over the us [TS]

00:56:35 ◼   ► at night and then if you went and found [TS]

00:56:37 ◼   ► a window that didn't have this on it was [TS]

00:56:39 ◼   ► like broad daylight so it was really [TS]

00:56:41 ◼   ► cool it was a really nice gimmick we [TS]

00:56:43 ◼   ► could individual people turn on and off [TS]

00:56:46 ◼   ► the blue fact is that something that was [TS]

00:56:47 ◼   ► under your control as the window-seat [TS]

00:56:49 ◼   ► person i'm not entirely sure but the [TS]

00:56:52 ◼   ► impression I had was you could control [TS]

00:56:54 ◼   ► yourself at certain times and at other [TS]

00:56:56 ◼   ► times I think they took control of it so [TS]

00:56:59 ◼   ► that you couldn't have one idiot [TS]

00:57:00 ◼   ► streaming the cabin with bright light [TS]

00:57:03 ◼   ► while everyone else was trying to sleep [TS]

00:57:04 ◼   ► on my flight to America I was the 180 [TS]

00:57:06 ◼   ► where the window over didn't realize [TS]

00:57:10 ◼   ► that the flight attendant came over and [TS]

00:57:11 ◼   ► gave me a hard starting to look like a [TS]

00:57:14 ◼   ► sir everybody else in this cabin is [TS]

00:57:15 ◼   ► asleep watching closure window goes [TS]

00:57:17 ◼   ► sorry I'm trying to work anyway that's [TS]

00:57:19 ◼   ► not my plane crash thank goodness [TS]

00:57:21 ◼   ► because i was on that line right right [TS]

00:57:22 ◼   ► about us [TS]

00:57:23 ◼   ► let me give you a plane crash corner and [TS]

00:57:25 ◼   ► this is something that made the news a [TS]

00:57:27 ◼   ► little while ago now [TS]

00:57:28 ◼   ► and I didn't bring it up because we [TS]

00:57:31 ◼   ► haven't done a podcast was so long and [TS]

00:57:32 ◼   ► we talked about lots of other stuff but [TS]

00:57:34 ◼   ► this caught my attention because also [TS]

00:57:36 ◼   ► has told me something about myself which [TS]

00:57:38 ◼   ► I want to ask you about the end [TS]

00:57:39 ◼   ► first of all let me tell you the story [TS]

00:57:40 ◼   ► you like this because it's got an [TS]

00:57:43 ◼   ► obscure pompous name i want to tell you [TS]

00:57:45 ◼   ► about operation an upper part of our I'm [TS]

00:57:50 ◼   ► sure my pronunciation is incorrect [TS]

00:57:51 ◼   ► because this is an Incan God of [TS]

00:57:53 ◼   ► knowledge and basically to start from [TS]

00:57:56 ◼   ► the beginning there was a flight on [TS]

00:57:58 ◼   ► january the first in 1985 Eastern flight [TS]

00:58:02 ◼   ► 980 and this was a flight that was going [TS]

00:58:05 ◼   ► from Paraguay to miami and i was going [TS]

00:58:07 ◼   ► to stop in a couple of other places on [TS]

00:58:09 ◼   ► the way this is in 1985 1985 okay I [TS]

00:58:12 ◼   ► trust me trust me gray okay we're [TS]

00:58:14 ◼   ► getting there are going there [TS]

00:58:15 ◼   ► alright take my stick with me through [TS]

00:58:17 ◼   ► this journey there hold my hair it will [TS]

00:58:19 ◼   ► all make sense at the end [TS]

00:58:20 ◼   ► ok this plane with 29 people on it i [TS]

00:58:25 ◼   ► think it was 19 passengers and 10 crew [TS]

00:58:27 ◼   ► which is quite high ratio of crude [TS]

00:58:29 ◼   ► passengers actually suffered what is [TS]

00:58:31 ◼   ► called a safe it crash [TS]

00:58:33 ◼   ► this is a controlled flight into terrain [TS]

00:58:35 ◼   ► which i think is a lovely way of saying [TS]

00:58:38 ◼   ► it flew into a mountain [TS]

00:58:40 ◼   ► ok and it flew into this mountain called [TS]

00:58:44 ◼   ► Mount allamani in Bolivia and it hit the [TS]

00:58:47 ◼   ► mountain at a height of about 6,000 [TS]

00:58:49 ◼   ► meters and I think to this day [TS]

00:58:51 ◼   ► that's the highest ever see if it [TS]

00:58:52 ◼   ► crashed has been ok the highest [TS]

00:58:54 ◼   ► appliance ever been when it flew into a [TS]

00:58:55 ◼   ► mountain everyone died so this is [TS]

00:59:01 ◼   ► obviously quite hard spot to get to but [TS]

00:59:02 ◼   ► they did send investigators and a little [TS]

00:59:04 ◼   ► piece of side trivia here that the lead [TS]

00:59:06 ◼   ► investigator they sent was a guy called [TS]

00:59:08 ◼   ► Greg Feith or five and anyone who [TS]

00:59:12 ◼   ► watches air crash investigation my [TS]

00:59:13 ◼   ► favorite TV show will know this guy [TS]

00:59:15 ◼   ► because this is like the talking head [TS]

00:59:17 ◼   ► that they bring in to talk about every [TS]