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H.I. #66: A Classic Episode

 

00:00:00   so great looking through our projected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/0">TS</a>]

00:00:03   notes here I think potentially we have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3">TS</a>]

00:00:05   classic hello Internet episode all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5">TS</a>]

00:00:08   major food groups are represented here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/8">TS</a>]

00:00:11   oh boy oh boy reading between the lines [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/11">TS</a>]

00:00:14   that means it's an episode you're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/14">TS</a>]

00:00:15   dread when I think of what Brady [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/15">TS</a>]

00:00:18   imagines to be a classic episode of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/18">TS</a>]

00:00:20   Hello internet all i can think of is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/20">TS</a>]

00:00:22   many many Brady segments that pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/22">TS</a>]

00:00:26   much sums it up after my success last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/26">TS</a>]

00:00:32   week for the second episode in a row i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/32">TS</a>]

00:00:35   gonna try to open up without listening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/35">TS</a>]

00:00:37   message listener interaction because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/37">TS</a>]

00:00:39   know i love them and I know you hate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/39">TS</a>]

00:00:41   them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/41">TS</a>]

00:00:41   I know but no I'm not gonna let you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/41">TS</a>]

00:00:43   away with that I don't hate them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/43">TS</a>]

00:00:45   I only include them if they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/45">TS</a>]

00:00:47   interesting are asked the difference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/47">TS</a>]

00:00:48   I to enjoy the interesting ones that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/48">TS</a>]

00:00:51   why I leave them in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/51">TS</a>]

00:00:52   ok let's see how this one fares i went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/52">TS</a>]

00:00:56   to what I sometimes referred to as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/56">TS</a>]

00:00:59   hello Internet postbox the other day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/59">TS</a>]

00:01:01   okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/61">TS</a>]

00:01:02   essentially this is my post box if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/62">TS</a>]

00:01:03   there's something you want to send a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/63">TS</a>]

00:01:04   gray do not send it to this box because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/64">TS</a>]

00:01:07   i will be in it i would not give it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/67">TS</a>]

00:01:09   gray because i cannot set that precedent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/69">TS</a>]

00:01:12   you mean your peel box that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/72">TS</a>]

00:01:13   you're talking about the one we used for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/73">TS</a>]

00:01:15   the election that's the hello Internet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/75">TS</a>]

00:01:16   post yes exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/76">TS</a>]

00:01:17   ok so i went along I went along for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/77">TS</a>]

00:01:20   check hoping there might be a few new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/80">TS</a>]

00:01:21   postcards there was a package know there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/81">TS</a>]

00:01:25   are several packages actually oh my that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/85">TS</a>]

00:01:27   sounds like something i would hand over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/87">TS</a>]

00:01:29   to the police [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/89">TS</a>]

00:01:30   well yes anyway I open this package it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/90">TS</a>]

00:01:35   is a book now for background people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/95">TS</a>]

00:01:39   might remember my thoughts on the book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/99">TS</a>]

00:01:42   getting things done by david allen this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/102">TS</a>]

00:01:45   is a book that gray I think holding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/105">TS</a>]

00:01:47   quite high regard and i did not enjoy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/107">TS</a>]

00:01:50   this book so much the extent where i got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/110">TS</a>]

00:01:52   a refund on my audio book because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/112">TS</a>]

00:01:54   didn't want it and my hardcopy we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/114">TS</a>]

00:01:57   auctioned for charity I wanted this book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/117">TS</a>]

00:01:59   out of my life this book was not for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/119">TS</a>]

00:02:00   i will i will put the the show where we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/120">TS</a>]

00:02:02   discussed it one of my favorites in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/122">TS</a>]

00:02:05   show notes again I think you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/125">TS</a>]

00:02:06   misrepresent me here i'm not exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/126">TS</a>]

00:02:08   sure that it was unambiguous hold in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/128">TS</a>]

00:02:10   high regard on my part but I will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/130">TS</a>]

00:02:12   let the listeners decided that was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/132">TS</a>]

00:02:13   fair characterization ok anyway like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/133">TS</a>]

00:02:17   bad penny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/137">TS</a>]

00:02:18   someone has sent me a copy of this book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/138">TS</a>]

00:02:20   it's got another copy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/140">TS</a>]

00:02:22   I'm thinking now what's all this about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/142">TS</a>]

00:02:25   so I open it up and on the inside cover [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/145">TS</a>]

00:02:29   the front inside cover whoever has said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/149">TS</a>]

00:02:31   this has inscribed a small flag flag so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/151">TS</a>]

00:02:37   immediately allowing bells start ringing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/157">TS</a>]

00:02:39   this is obviously a mischief-maker rebel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/159">TS</a>]

00:02:41   scum rides they're up to no good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/161">TS</a>]

00:02:43   obviously uh-huh and then on the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/163">TS</a>]

00:02:47   page insert it between the pages is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/167">TS</a>]

00:02:49   beer coaster like a beer mat with a web [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/169">TS</a>]

00:02:53   address on it uh-huh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/173">TS</a>]

00:02:54   and I'm thinking our knife what's going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/174">TS</a>]

00:02:56   on here this is dodgy and it's an in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/176">TS</a>]

00:02:58   girl in general however i'm supposed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/178">TS</a>]

00:03:00   pronounce that address so they want me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/180">TS</a>]

00:03:01   to look at some photo huh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/181">TS</a>]

00:03:04   but then before I look at the photo i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/184">TS</a>]

00:03:06   turn the next page i love that you keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/186">TS</a>]

00:03:08   going into this yeah who knows what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/188">TS</a>]

00:03:10   coming but Brady is going to find out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/190">TS</a>]

00:03:12   right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/192">TS</a>]

00:03:12   ok it's an adventure now on the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/192">TS</a>]

00:03:16   page which is kind of like the title [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/196">TS</a>]

00:03:17   page is an inscription ok what does that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/197">TS</a>]

00:03:22   say it says to Brady Haran give it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/202">TS</a>]

00:03:27   another go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/207">TS</a>]

00:03:28   i'm gonna guess is that like David [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/208">TS</a>]

00:03:31   Allen's signature on the buyer is david [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/211">TS</a>]

00:03:33   allen signature because if you go to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/213">TS</a>]

00:03:35   in girly which i'm sending you now we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/215">TS</a>]

00:03:39   have someone who I don't know who this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/219">TS</a>]

00:03:41   is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/221">TS</a>]

00:03:42   they're obviously a mysterious Tim and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/222">TS</a>]

00:03:44   holding a copy of the book standing with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/224">TS</a>]

00:03:47   David Allen had a book signing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/227">TS</a>]

00:03:49   so he is obviously taken his book up to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/229">TS</a>]

00:03:52   David Allen and asked him to sign it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/232">TS</a>]

00:03:54   me asking me to give it another go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/234">TS</a>]

00:03:57   that is fantastic a few things come into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/237">TS</a>]

00:04:02   my mind when I say this the first is I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/242">TS</a>]

00:04:05   have to say David Allen has gone up a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/245">TS</a>]

00:04:07   few pegs in my standing O has e yeah but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/247">TS</a>]

00:04:10   secondly how did the interaction work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/250">TS</a>]

00:04:13   what did he say to dave allen when he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/253">TS</a>]

00:04:15   was asked him to sign the book and say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/255">TS</a>]

00:04:16   can you please say you know to Brady [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/256">TS</a>]

00:04:19   give it another go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/259">TS</a>]

00:04:20   he must have had to explain our this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/260">TS</a>]

00:04:22   podcast and there's this guy and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/262">TS</a>]

00:04:24   really slept off your book and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/264">TS</a>]

00:04:26   said it was really boring and he like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/266">TS</a>]

00:04:28   got rid of these copies and so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/268">TS</a>]

00:04:30   should listen to the episode it's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/270">TS</a>]

00:04:32   entertaining as put it in the show notes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/272">TS</a>]

00:04:35   how do you think that unfolded that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/275">TS</a>]

00:04:40   interaction i'm gonna get here is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/280">TS</a>]

00:04:42   thing the way you imagine stuff radius [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/282">TS</a>]

00:04:44   that someone goes into all of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/284">TS</a>]

00:04:45   details but i would suspect that this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/285">TS</a>]

00:04:49   this magnificent him has pulled this off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/289">TS</a>]

00:04:52   it would simply just say oh I have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/292">TS</a>]

00:04:55   friend who tried the book and didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/295">TS</a>]

00:04:57   like it could you give them a suggestion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/297">TS</a>]

00:04:59   to give it another try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/299">TS</a>]

00:05:00   I think that's the fastest way in a book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/300">TS</a>]

00:05:03   signing line to get the basic just a bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/303">TS</a>]

00:05:05   across I don't know great maybe I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/305">TS</a>]

00:05:07   reading too much into the picture but if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/307">TS</a>]

00:05:09   you zoom in on David Allen's face in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/309">TS</a>]

00:05:12   that picture i sent you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/312">TS</a>]

00:05:13   he doesn't look happy he does look a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/313">TS</a>]

00:05:15   little bit like he's been cornered into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/315">TS</a>]

00:05:17   doing something he didn't want to do or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/317">TS</a>]

00:05:18   am I just reading too much into that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/318">TS</a>]

00:05:20   on the cover [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/320">TS</a>]

00:05:21   he looks all smarmy and tanned and happy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/321">TS</a>]

00:05:23   and california and in this picture he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/323">TS</a>]

00:05:26   looks a bit like just get me out of him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/326">TS</a>]

00:05:28   and get me out of this photo looking at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/328">TS</a>]

00:05:30   the picture i can see why you think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/330">TS</a>]

00:05:32   it also looks like maybe he is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/332">TS</a>]

00:05:34   suppressing a bit of a smile like maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/334">TS</a>]

00:05:36   he thinks this is some kind of funny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/336">TS</a>]

00:05:37   situation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/337">TS</a>]

00:05:38   his expression is hard to read but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/338">TS</a>]

00:05:40   you're right maybe he just got cornered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/340">TS</a>]

00:05:42   he wants to get out of there and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/342">TS</a>]

00:05:44   someone has just told him and overly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/344">TS</a>]

00:05:47   long overly detailed story in order to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/347">TS</a>]

00:05:49   get them to sign his book ID like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/349">TS</a>]

00:05:52   term magnificent Tim I can't help but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/352">TS</a>]

00:05:55   wonder it must be a weird experience to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/355">TS</a>]

00:05:58   do a book signing of the book where your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/358">TS</a>]

00:06:01   own faces on the cover where everyone is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/361">TS</a>]

00:06:03   constantly handing you a book with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/363">TS</a>]

00:06:05   picture of you smiling at you to then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/365">TS</a>]

00:06:07   sign if I was an author I wouldn't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/367">TS</a>]

00:06:09   my face on the cover of the book i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/369">TS</a>]

00:06:11   find that a weird situation signing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/371">TS</a>]

00:06:13   books with my own face on it I think if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/373">TS</a>]

00:06:15   you've signed off on having your face on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/375">TS</a>]

00:06:16   the cover you're the sort of person who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/376">TS</a>]

00:06:18   would probably quite enjoy signing a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/378">TS</a>]

00:06:19   book with your face on the cover [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/379">TS</a>]

00:06:21   you might have a point that i might not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/381">TS</a>]

00:06:22   be thinking this through all the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/382">TS</a>]

00:06:23   this is an excellence excellence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/383">TS</a>]

00:06:25   listener interaction i don't see any way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/385">TS</a>]

00:06:28   that I can possibly cut this from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/388">TS</a>]

00:06:30   show which makes you two for two in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/390">TS</a>]

00:06:33   gambling of openings are very well done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/393">TS</a>]

00:06:35   brady and thankee magnificent team [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/395">TS</a>]

00:06:37   whoever you are if you if you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/397">TS</a>]

00:06:39   here this tell us about this interaction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/399">TS</a>]

00:06:41   with david allen we want to hear every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/401">TS</a>]

00:06:43   detail every nuance every every tick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/403">TS</a>]

00:06:46   every every little bit of body language [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/406">TS</a>]

00:06:49   on a full briefing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/409">TS</a>]

00:06:51   yes he wants to hear that all that full [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/411">TS</a>]

00:06:53   briefing it might not make it to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/413">TS</a>]

00:06:55   next show you owe me one hundred dollars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/415">TS</a>]

00:07:00   breathing well after I made that play [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/420">TS</a>]

00:07:03   with you and for those who forgotten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/423">TS</a>]

00:07:05   great went to VidCon and I made a bet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/425">TS</a>]

00:07:07   that he would get dragged up to do like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/427">TS</a>]

00:07:09   a panel or talk or something like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/429">TS</a>]

00:07:12   mhm and he bet me a hundred dollars he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/432">TS</a>]

00:07:15   wouldn't em and on the face of our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/435">TS</a>]

00:07:18   thought that was a good bet and very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/438">TS</a>]

00:07:20   quickly after making it I realized it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/440">TS</a>]

00:07:23   was a mistake and it wasn't a mistake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/443">TS</a>]

00:07:24   for the reason that you think it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/444">TS</a>]

00:07:26   mistake okay it wasn't a mistake because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/446">TS</a>]

00:07:29   gray is like a recluse or shy or doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/449">TS</a>]

00:07:32   like attention [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/452">TS</a>]

00:07:33   uh-huh that those things are true but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/453">TS</a>]

00:07:35   grades also like you know you do do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/455">TS</a>]

00:07:38   public things now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/458">TS</a>]

00:07:39   uh-huh and you've started doing more of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/459">TS</a>]

00:07:41   it and also you are like a nice guy and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/461">TS</a>]

00:07:44   someone who likes to please his friends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/464">TS</a>]

00:07:46   and his colleagues ok interesting i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/466">TS</a>]

00:07:49   think it's true you will help your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/469">TS</a>]

00:07:50   friends if they ask you and I imagine a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/470">TS</a>]

00:07:53   scenario where someone was going to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/473">TS</a>]

00:07:55   you gray come up and do this panel I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/475">TS</a>]

00:07:57   help us out with this Q&A because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/477">TS</a>]

00:07:59   know everyone that's great to be a nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/479">TS</a>]

00:08:00   surprise and I thought put in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/480">TS</a>]

00:08:02   situation you would agree to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/482">TS</a>]

00:08:05   the thing that I didn't take into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/485">TS</a>]

00:08:07   account is Howard likely it was that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/487">TS</a>]

00:08:11   would happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/491">TS</a>]

00:08:12   mm because people don't like giving up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/492">TS</a>]

00:08:15   their stage and what and what first and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/495">TS</a>]

00:08:18   doing a clear an area panel is going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/498">TS</a>]

00:08:20   want to give up their limelight to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/500">TS</a>]

00:08:21   someone else you know these are like in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/501">TS</a>]

00:08:24   a YouTube celebrities who loves the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/504">TS</a>]

00:08:27   limelight so it suddenly occurred to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/507">TS</a>]

00:08:29   hang on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/509">TS</a>]

00:08:29   great probably won't even get asked to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/509">TS</a>]

00:08:31   do this so you never have to refuse to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/511">TS</a>]

00:08:35   come on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/515">TS</a>]

00:08:36   did you get asked I when interacting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/516">TS</a>]

00:08:38   with people essentially pre shut down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/518">TS</a>]

00:08:41   any discussion of joining any panels by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/521">TS</a>]

00:08:43   always saying oh I'm just here is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/523">TS</a>]

00:08:45   civilian [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/525">TS</a>]

00:08:46   I'm just here as a tourist i'm not doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/526">TS</a>]

00:08:48   anything I'm just here as a normal guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/528">TS</a>]

00:08:50   just a normal person with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/530">TS</a>]

00:08:52   VidCon pass that's what I was trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/532">TS</a>]

00:08:54   pinch myself to in every single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/534">TS</a>]

00:08:56   interaction and you know remarkably no i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/536">TS</a>]

00:08:59   did not get asked to do anything but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/539">TS</a>]

00:09:01   also agree with you that I interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/541">TS</a>]

00:09:03   experience of VidCon was over and over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/543">TS</a>]

00:09:08   realizing like oh this is obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/548">TS</a>]

00:09:11   we're all of the extra verts go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/551">TS</a>]

00:09:15   I think all of the people who loved to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/555">TS</a>]

00:09:18   be onstage who love to be in front of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/558">TS</a>]

00:09:21   huge audiences like by definition if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/561">TS</a>]

00:09:24   are a huge youtube star you are probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/564">TS</a>]

00:09:26   that kind of person you are probably not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/566">TS</a>]

00:09:29   a huge introverted like there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/569">TS</a>]

00:09:31   exceptions to that but for the most case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/571">TS</a>]

00:09:33   that's the way it's going to work and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/573">TS</a>]

00:09:36   you are definitely right that there may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/576">TS</a>]

00:09:38   have been an element of who wants to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/578">TS</a>]

00:09:40   invite an additional person up on their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/580">TS</a>]

00:09:42   panel nobody nobody wants to do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/582">TS</a>]

00:09:44   everybody wants the panel to be as much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/584">TS</a>]

00:09:46   about them as they can possibly have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/586">TS</a>]

00:09:47   big say I mean that's it i was right i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/587">TS</a>]

00:09:50   mean i was wrong but I was right and why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/590">TS</a>]

00:09:52   I was wrong as soon as I made the bet I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/592">TS</a>]

00:09:54   realized my mistake was not graze [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/594">TS</a>]

00:09:56   introversion it was everyone else's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/596">TS</a>]

00:09:58   extraversion it's their unwillingness to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/598">TS</a>]

00:10:01   share the limelight so I are you a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/601">TS</a>]

00:10:04   hundred dollars you owe me a hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/604">TS</a>]

00:10:05   dollars and because of breaks at which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/605">TS</a>]

00:10:07   we may discuss later i need to do a bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/607">TS</a>]

00:10:09   of horse trading about what the best way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/609">TS</a>]

00:10:11   to give you that money will be stressed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/611">TS</a>]

00:10:13   the pound plummets I don't know how I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/613">TS</a>]

00:10:16   gonna do this but i'll try and find a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/616">TS</a>]

00:10:18   way to do it they went bankrupt me right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/618">TS</a>]

00:10:20   $100 or 5,000 path so I lost the bet so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/620">TS</a>]

00:10:28   while i was at VidCon we had just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/628">TS</a>]

00:10:31   recorded that morning and we had her big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/631">TS</a>]

00:10:34   discussion about the snapchat how does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/634">TS</a>]

00:10:38   it work and why ? and for the entirety [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/638">TS</a>]

00:10:42   of VidCon our friend Destin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/642">TS</a>]

00:10:46   smartereveryday just kept pushing me to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/646">TS</a>]

00:10:49   join snapshots that do that dude he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/649">TS</a>]

00:10:52   like a snapchat drug pusher every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/652">TS</a>]

00:10:55   conversation I think he must have stuck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/655">TS</a>]

00:10:57   in the snapchat i honest to god that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/657">TS</a>]

00:10:59   what i was thinking feels like you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/659">TS</a>]

00:11:00   so pushing this i'm just going to assume [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/660">TS</a>]

00:11:03   that you're a secret co-founder of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/663">TS</a>]

00:11:05   snapchat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/665">TS</a>]

00:11:06   nothing else makes any sense here and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/666">TS</a>]

00:11:08   was one of those things where the more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/668">TS</a>]

00:11:11   someone talked the less unless i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/671">TS</a>]

00:11:13   convinced every second right so like we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/673">TS</a>]

00:11:15   had this whole conversation where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/675">TS</a>]

00:11:16   tried to explain it to me and then I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/676">TS</a>]

00:11:18   destined showing me all of the amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/678">TS</a>]

00:11:21   things that you could do on snapchat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/681">TS</a>]

00:11:22   including a moment which I totally loved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/682">TS</a>]

00:11:24   where we were just having as you do I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/684">TS</a>]

00:11:27   hop for dinner in America and Destin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/687">TS</a>]

00:11:30   whips out his phone he's like look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/690">TS</a>]

00:11:32   this thing that you can do I can just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/692">TS</a>]

00:11:34   film you and your hands eating your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/694">TS</a>]

00:11:36   dinner isn't this great this is going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/696">TS</a>]

00:11:38   go up on snapchat immediately and people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/698">TS</a>]

00:11:40   can look at it as I I want nothing to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/700">TS</a>]

00:11:43   with this natural thing poker the more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/703">TS</a>]

00:11:45   you're trying to convince me the less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/705">TS</a>]

00:11:47   convincing this absolutely is he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/707">TS</a>]

00:11:50   super excited about that video he asked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/710">TS</a>]

00:11:52   me the other day if I want like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/712">TS</a>]

00:11:53   original footage I think he thinks it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/713">TS</a>]

00:11:55   approved to feel more than the moon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/715">TS</a>]

00:11:56   landings man prays heads on the snapchat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/716">TS</a>]

00:11:59   like it was that you know your snapchat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/719">TS</a>]

00:12:01   debut or something maybe there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/721">TS</a>]

00:12:03   something about their video I've missed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/723">TS</a>]

00:12:04   but I sort of what shouldn't thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/724">TS</a>]

00:12:06   it's just a dude filming another dudes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/726">TS</a>]

00:12:07   hands eating food too and the don'ts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/727">TS</a>]

00:12:09   sounds and impressed about being filmed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/729">TS</a>]

00:12:11   and the thing that I didn't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/731">TS</a>]

00:12:13   understand it is it seems like snapchat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/733">TS</a>]

00:12:15   just like twitter has a character limit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/735">TS</a>]

00:12:17   snapchat has some kind of time limit for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/737">TS</a>]

00:12:19   what is recording yeah when he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/739">TS</a>]

00:12:21   trying to explain it to me it just cuts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/741">TS</a>]

00:12:22   off in the middle as i get great you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/742">TS</a>]

00:12:24   totally selling this thing you're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/744">TS</a>]

00:12:25   film the thing we're talking about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/745">TS</a>]

00:12:27   and then it just cuts off on the middle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/747">TS</a>]

00:12:29   anyway this is awful but this is dumb [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/749">TS</a>]

00:12:31   this is terrible but it's nonetheless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/751">TS</a>]

00:12:34   while I mentioned in the last show that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/754">TS</a>]

00:12:36   I made a little note for my assistant to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/756">TS</a>]

00:12:39   make me a snapchat just like someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/759">TS</a>]

00:12:41   totally out of touch would do after the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/761">TS</a>]

00:12:43   show i forgot to delete that little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/763">TS</a>]

00:12:46   instruction and so I have actually ended [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/766">TS</a>]

00:12:49   up with a snapchat and I thought okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/769">TS</a>]

00:12:53   just for completeness is sake i'm going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/773">TS</a>]

00:12:56   to install it on my phone and just see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/776">TS</a>]

00:12:58   what it looks like and maybe I'll do one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/778">TS</a>]

00:13:01   thing and then I'll just never do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/781">TS</a>]

00:13:02   again and I just want to reiterate a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/782">TS</a>]

00:13:05   thousandfold your described experience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/785">TS</a>]

00:13:08   of even installing and using snapchat at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/788">TS</a>]

00:13:12   all is a completely baffling experience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/792">TS</a>]

00:13:14   thank you thank you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/794">TS</a>]

00:13:16   I did have a lot of people saying it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/796">TS</a>]

00:13:18   wasn't just you ready but having it come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/798">TS</a>]

00:13:19   from you is vindication because you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/799">TS</a>]

00:13:22   you know you're pretty up with the tech [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/802">TS</a>]

00:13:23   I thought you might be exaggerating or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/803">TS</a>]

00:13:27   just like totally out of touch but like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/807">TS</a>]

00:13:30   trying to get that thing installed and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/810">TS</a>]

00:13:32   looking at the stars like you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/812">TS</a>]

00:13:33   put this and can't get this thing take a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/813">TS</a>]

00:13:35   picture of this and then when it loads [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/815">TS</a>]

00:13:36   up there is no labels on any buttons the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/816">TS</a>]

00:13:38   button seem intentionally obscure and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/818">TS</a>]

00:13:41   somehow throughout the entirety of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/821">TS</a>]

00:13:44   everybody describing it to me and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/824">TS</a>]

00:13:45   everybody showing it to me i somehow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/825">TS</a>]

00:13:47   missed it was purely video that there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/827">TS</a>]

00:13:50   was literally nothing you could do aside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/830">TS</a>]

00:13:52   from video and as soon as i figure that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/832">TS</a>]

00:13:53   out I was like I the hell with this i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/833">TS</a>]

00:13:55   just talking to get off my own you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/835">TS</a>]

00:13:58   take stills no okay well i didn't get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/838">TS</a>]

00:14:00   far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/840">TS</a>]

00:14:01   then why don't you just tell you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/841">TS</a>]

00:14:03   tap that video button instead of holding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/843">TS</a>]

00:14:04   it down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/844">TS</a>]

00:14:05   oh ok it's completely baffling great i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/845">TS</a>]

00:14:07   like it's like that scene in movies when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/847">TS</a>]

00:14:09   people get into the alien spacecraft and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/849">TS</a>]

00:14:12   there's like four different symbols on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/852">TS</a>]

00:14:14   the dashboard and yet somehow they still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/854">TS</a>]

00:14:15   managed to fly the spaceship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/855">TS</a>]

00:14:17   I don't like that's what the whole world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/857">TS</a>]

00:14:18   is like with snapchat we're flying the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/858">TS</a>]

00:14:20   spaceship with symbols and controls none [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/860">TS</a>]

00:14:23   of us understand anyway I just have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/863">TS</a>]

00:14:27   completely agree with you i feel like i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/867">TS</a>]

00:14:29   was glad to have the experience of maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/869">TS</a>]

00:14:34   90 seconds of playing around with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/874">TS</a>]

00:14:35   snapchat just to see what it was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/875">TS</a>]

00:14:37   and then realizing nope i have no place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/877">TS</a>]

00:14:39   for this in my life it brings me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/879">TS</a>]

00:14:41   absolutely no utility no matter how much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/881">TS</a>]

00:14:44   Destin keeps pushing it no matter how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/884">TS</a>]

00:14:46   much he wants to drive up the value of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/886">TS</a>]

00:14:48   his stocks and snapchat i am not going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/888">TS</a>]

00:14:50   to use this thing to be fair it's suits [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/890">TS</a>]

00:14:53   Destin because he's such a nice guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/893">TS</a>]

00:14:55   usually charming and he really likes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/895">TS</a>]

00:14:57   interacting with as many people as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/897">TS</a>]

00:14:59   possible and he lives in this world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/899">TS</a>]

00:15:01   where his day lasts 90 hours so he has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/901">TS</a>]

00:15:03   time to do this as far as i can tell he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/903">TS</a>]

00:15:06   does not sleep as I said before I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/906">TS</a>]

00:15:08   it's less you there has been an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/908">TS</a>]

00:15:09   interesting development in the world of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/909">TS</a>]

00:15:11   snapchat since we spoke you know how we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/911">TS</a>]

00:15:13   have this delusion that like the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/913">TS</a>]

00:15:15   changes and continents move based on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/915">TS</a>]

00:15:18   things we talked about hello Internet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/918">TS</a>]

00:15:20   I don't think it is a delusion I more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/920">TS</a>]

00:15:22   episodes we do the more confirmation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/922">TS</a>]

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00:15:26   well you may remember I think I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/926">TS</a>]

00:15:29   mentioned this on the podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/929">TS</a>]

00:15:30   that was certainly something I felt I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/930">TS</a>]

00:15:32   felt a frustration about not being able [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/932">TS</a>]

00:15:35   to take past material and media and put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/935">TS</a>]

00:15:39   it on the snapchat and always had to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/939">TS</a>]

00:15:41   immediate like I had to make a picture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/941">TS</a>]

00:15:42   now and put it on I couldn't go and get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/942">TS</a>]

00:15:45   get those beautiful pictures from Mount [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/945">TS</a>]

00:15:47   Everest five years ago when brag about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/947">TS</a>]

00:15:49   that on snapchat because you can't go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/949">TS</a>]

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00:15:53   shame [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/953">TS</a>]

00:15:54   yeah the funny thing is within a day or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/954">TS</a>]

00:15:57   two I realized the error of my ways and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/957">TS</a>]

00:16:00   I realized the strength of snapchat was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/960">TS</a>]

00:16:03   this immediacy people couldn't Instagram [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/963">TS</a>]

00:16:05   and make their lives like all amazing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/965">TS</a>]

00:16:07   was unvarnished it was like this really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/967">TS</a>]

00:16:10   nice immediate contact everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/970">TS</a>]

00:16:12   disappears in 24 hours you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/972">TS</a>]

00:16:15   blackboard is constantly being white [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/975">TS</a>]

00:16:17   clean and I realized this was what was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/977">TS</a>]

00:16:19   good about it and I embraced that now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/979">TS</a>]

00:16:21   and then about day or two after that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/981">TS</a>]

00:16:24   snapchat and melts they are now allowing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/984">TS</a>]

00:16:27   people to do the exact thing that I wish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/987">TS</a>]

00:16:29   they did and now I wish they wouldn't do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/989">TS</a>]

00:16:31   but they are doing and you can take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/991">TS</a>]

00:16:34   things from the vault and create this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/994">TS</a>]

00:16:35   new area of snapchat which I haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/995">TS</a>]

00:16:37   looked at yet and I don't know how it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/997">TS</a>]

00:16:38   works i think it's called memories or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/998">TS</a>]

00:16:40   something like that so in addition to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1000">TS</a>]

00:16:42   your sort of immediate day-to-day story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1002">TS</a>]

00:16:44   you can now go and get your perfectly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1004">TS</a>]

00:16:47   crafted photos and photoshop them and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1007">TS</a>]

00:16:50   have nice vignettes and make everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1010">TS</a>]

00:16:52   look perfect and pretty and not the sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1012">TS</a>]

00:16:55   of crazy and vanish snapchat which I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1015">TS</a>]

00:16:57   think works better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1017">TS</a>]

00:16:58   so it's all change well I trust that now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1018">TS</a>]

00:17:02   that you have explained to snapchat the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1022">TS</a>]

00:17:05   errors of their ways they will quickly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1025">TS</a>]

00:17:07   revert this decision if you've got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1027">TS</a>]

00:17:10   phone or a camera or a computer full of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1030">TS</a>]

00:17:13   photos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1033">TS</a>]

00:17:14   why not liberate at least some of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1034">TS</a>]

00:17:16   into the real world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1036">TS</a>]

00:17:17   nothing beats having some of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1037">TS</a>]

00:17:18   favorite memories hanging on the wall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1038">TS</a>]

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00:18:26   all works and what the finished product [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1106">TS</a>]

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00:18:42   hello internet and no no you came from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1122">TS</a>]

00:18:45   the show thank you to fracture for their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1125">TS</a>]

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00:18:53   to talk about flags if we're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1133">TS</a>]

00:18:55   have a classic episode well and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1135">TS</a>]

00:18:57   probably have to talk about emojis [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1137">TS</a>]

00:18:59   okay I have an emoji flag story how do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1139">TS</a>]

00:19:02   you a submission has been prepared and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1142">TS</a>]

00:19:04   again i'll try and link to it i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1144">TS</a>]

00:19:06   it's been done by these people from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1146">TS</a>]

00:19:08   emoji pedia and you know people in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1148">TS</a>]

00:19:11   emoji world have put in this formal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1151">TS</a>]

00:19:13   submission to whoever you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1153">TS</a>]

00:19:14   formally submit things to to have emojis [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1154">TS</a>]

00:19:17   recognized to have the home nation flags [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1157">TS</a>]

00:19:20   made into official emojis because at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1160">TS</a>]

00:19:25   moment there is the Union Jack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1165">TS</a>]

00:19:26   representing the United Kingdom but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1166">TS</a>]

00:19:29   there is no england flag there is no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1169">TS</a>]

00:19:31   wireless flag there's no Scotland flag [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1171">TS</a>]

00:19:33   and I've actually found that quite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1173">TS</a>]

00:19:35   frustrating there have been times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1175">TS</a>]

00:19:36   believe are not where I wanted to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1176">TS</a>]

00:19:38   those flags and have been unable to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1178">TS</a>]

00:19:40   literally not more than three hours ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1180">TS</a>]

00:19:43   I wanted to send someone in England [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1183">TS</a>]

00:19:46   Wales emoji flag thing and discovered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1186">TS</a>]

00:19:49   for the very first time that those whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1189">TS</a>]

00:19:51   nation flags don't exist i just assume [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1191">TS</a>]

00:19:53   that they would be there but there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1193">TS</a>]

00:19:54   that yeah so I know there are sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1194">TS</a>]

00:19:57   thin end of the wedge and you can open [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1197">TS</a>]

00:19:59   the floodgates and where does this stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1199">TS</a>]

00:20:01   but i think the home nations should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1201">TS</a>]

00:20:03   in the emoji sphere and i hope that this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1203">TS</a>]

00:20:06   submission was successful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1206">TS</a>]

00:20:08   well I mean if they're going to do the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1208">TS</a>]

00:20:10   whole nation flags i think they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1210">TS</a>]

00:20:13   absolutely have to do all 50 states [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1213">TS</a>]

00:20:14   flags i think there's no way around that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1214">TS</a>]

00:20:16   no this is not the case because I beg to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1216">TS</a>]

00:20:19   disagree and obviously have to do the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1219">TS</a>]

00:20:21   Liberian County flags but yes of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1221">TS</a>]

00:20:24   right just for funsies those need to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1224">TS</a>]

00:20:25   in there yes i agree but this whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1225">TS</a>]

00:20:28   nation thing has been causing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1228">TS</a>]

00:20:29   significant problems for example the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1229">TS</a>]

00:20:31   european football championships which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1231">TS</a>]

00:20:32   are finishing today as we record the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1232">TS</a>]

00:20:35   fire was actually on shortly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1235">TS</a>]

00:20:36   there's no united kingdom team in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1236">TS</a>]

00:20:39   there's all these international teams [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1239">TS</a>]

00:20:41   and we have when I was competing and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1241">TS</a>]

00:20:42   have England the same is true of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1242">TS</a>]

00:20:44   world cup of football now Texas and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1244">TS</a>]

00:20:47   California who and Nevada and whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1247">TS</a>]

00:20:51   don't have teams competing at the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1251">TS</a>]

00:20:53   cup but Scotland and Wales and England [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1253">TS</a>]

00:20:56   are these are countries that states that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1256">TS</a>]

00:20:58   actually causes formatting problems with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1258">TS</a>]

00:21:00   some people who depend on emojis when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1260">TS</a>]

00:21:02   all these tourneys take place and I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1262">TS</a>]

00:21:05   I know there's more to the world and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1265">TS</a>]

00:21:06   sport but it's going to say yes I find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1266">TS</a>]

00:21:10   your solely because there are sports [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1270">TS</a>]

00:21:12   competing things not super convincing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1272">TS</a>]

00:21:14   home nations and sports is always such a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1274">TS</a>]

00:21:16   confusing weird historical thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1276">TS</a>]

00:21:19   occurs that doesn't necessarily make any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1279">TS</a>]

00:21:21   sense whatsoever especially when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1281">TS</a>]

00:21:23   look at the population breakdown of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1283">TS</a>]

00:21:25   Scotland Wales Northern Ireland we know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1285">TS</a>]

00:21:28   versus other places so I'm definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1288">TS</a>]

00:21:31   gonna say this that if the home nations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1291">TS</a>]

00:21:32   get accepted i think the moji committee [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1292">TS</a>]

00:21:36   or whoever is in charge of this i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1296">TS</a>]

00:21:38   they have to do the individual state [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1298">TS</a>]

00:21:40   flags i think there's no argument around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1300">TS</a>]

00:21:41   this i don't find your sports than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1301">TS</a>]

00:21:43   convincing just seriously for a moment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1303">TS</a>]

00:21:45   you seriously believe that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1305">TS</a>]

00:21:46   yeah I think they should do the state [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1306">TS</a>]

00:21:47   flags what about the state flags [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1307">TS</a>]

00:21:49   Australia you know I mean let's be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1309">TS</a>]

00:21:51   honest who cares are so America can have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1311">TS</a>]

00:21:54   a statement exactly right exactly right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1314">TS</a>]

00:21:56   listen but who cares right nobody often [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1316">TS</a>]

00:21:59   have you ever want to use a state flag [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1319">TS</a>]

00:22:01   for one of the states and australia [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1321">TS</a>]

00:22:02   never right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1322">TS</a>]

00:22:04   how often does someone from Texas want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1324">TS</a>]

00:22:06   to use a Texas flag emoji [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1326">TS</a>]

00:22:08   I bet every day of their life Texans are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1328">TS</a>]

00:22:10   sad that they don't have an official [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1330">TS</a>]

00:22:12   Texas emoji to use I bet there's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1332">TS</a>]

00:22:15   everyday sad texans in their hats [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1335">TS</a>]

00:22:17   yeah well it's been an emoji of like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1337">TS</a>]

00:22:19   cowboy hat or something it's not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1339">TS</a>]

00:22:21   same as Texas you know and and think of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1341">TS</a>]

00:22:24   all of those states they could have such [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1344">TS</a>]

00:22:26   a beautiful field of barely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1346">TS</a>]

00:22:29   distinguishable blue icons with some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1349">TS</a>]

00:22:32   kind of muddy yellow logo in the center [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1352">TS</a>]

00:22:34   each of them to pick from it could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1354">TS</a>]

00:22:36   amazing i can already foresee the day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1356">TS</a>]

00:22:38   we're on the 4-inch screen of my iphone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1358">TS</a>]

00:22:42   SE e I'm trying to distinguish the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1362">TS</a>]

00:22:46   york state flag by looking for a tiny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1366">TS</a>]

00:22:48   Excelsior written at the bottom of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1368">TS</a>]

00:22:50   banner or a smiling Sun face in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1370">TS</a>]

00:22:52   middle of a field in the background [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1372">TS</a>]

00:22:54   trying to distinguish that from all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1374">TS</a>]

00:22:56   the varying his other blue flags with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1376">TS</a>]

00:22:58   the seal in the center i look forward to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1378">TS</a>]

00:23:00   that day it could an emoji possibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1380">TS</a>]

00:23:03   contain the spectacular horror that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1383">TS</a>]

00:23:05   the maryland state flag [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1385">TS</a>]

00:23:08   I wonder how many pixels by how many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1388">TS</a>]

00:23:11   pixels a standard emoji is and I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1391">TS</a>]

00:23:15   Apple did just make an announcement that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1395">TS</a>]

00:23:16   they're going to and begin their emoji [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1396">TS</a>]

00:23:18   by three times even still I can easily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1398">TS</a>]

00:23:21   imagine that when you have to pick it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1401">TS</a>]

00:23:23   out in that tiny little keyboard at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1403">TS</a>]

00:23:25   bottom there is simply no way to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1405">TS</a>]

00:23:27   distinguish the flags and the parallel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1407">TS</a>]

00:23:29   in flag at least you'll be able to pick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1409">TS</a>]

00:23:31   it out but how much detail will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1411">TS</a>]

00:23:33   accurately represent of their flag [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1413">TS</a>]

00:23:36   I bet none in all seriousness I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1416">TS</a>]

00:23:41   realize there would be a greater demand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1421">TS</a>]

00:23:43   for American state flags than any other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1423">TS</a>]

00:23:45   state flags of course that you cannot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1425">TS</a>]

00:23:48   put the American state flags in at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1428">TS</a>]

00:23:51   expense of other country states and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1431">TS</a>]

00:23:54   counties whereas I think the home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1434">TS</a>]

00:23:56   nations of the UK while not being quite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1436">TS</a>]

00:23:59   as fully fledged get angry Scottish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1439">TS</a>]

00:24:01   people as other countries i think has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1441">TS</a>]

00:24:05   higher ranking and should be brought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1445">TS</a>]

00:24:08   into the fold before we even have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1448">TS</a>]

00:24:10   conversation about state flags [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1450">TS</a>]

00:24:12   yeah but like how many people even live [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1452">TS</a>]

00:24:14   in Wales have to look this up now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1454">TS</a>]

00:24:17   thank you a hundred thousand people hey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1457">TS</a>]

00:24:19   they just made the semi-finals of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1459">TS</a>]

00:24:20   euro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1460">TS</a>]

00:24:21   more people live in Wales than Iceland [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1461">TS</a>]

00:24:23   maybe I haven't checked that fact yeah i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1463">TS</a>]

00:24:27   know i was a whatever whatever we got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1467">TS</a>]

00:24:29   here well how many people do live in was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1469">TS</a>]

00:24:31   ok there three million people in Wales [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1471">TS</a>]

00:24:34   oh that's white bigger than Iceland and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1474">TS</a>]

00:24:36   I should get an emoji that's true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1476">TS</a>]

00:24:38   iceland you get an emoji but at least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1478">TS</a>]

00:24:40   they are a fully sovereign nation make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1480">TS</a>]

00:24:43   them look like they're on the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1483">TS</a>]

00:24:44   stage there agree and that's why they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1484">TS</a>]

00:24:46   in and why was is not yet but i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1486">TS</a>]

00:24:49   what else needs to come in before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1489">TS</a>]

00:24:51   something even less sovereign like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1491">TS</a>]

00:24:53   Maryland but the sovereignty matter or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1493">TS</a>]

00:24:56   does it is the number of that you put it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1496">TS</a>]

00:24:57   up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1497">TS</a>]

00:24:58   I'm just saying like we have to start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1498">TS</a>]

00:24:59   somewhere right it's like okay we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1499">TS</a>]

00:25:00   starting with all the sovereign nations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1500">TS</a>]

00:25:02   ok obviously done although actually do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1502">TS</a>]

00:25:04   they have all of the flags for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1504">TS</a>]

00:25:05   nation's I don't even know I'm sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1505">TS</a>]

00:25:06   there's some nation out there that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1506">TS</a>]

00:25:07   really angry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1507">TS</a>]

00:25:08   is there a vatican city flag i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1508">TS</a>]

00:25:10   actually now I wonder but after that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1510">TS</a>]

00:25:12   think you have to start looking at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1512">TS</a>]

00:25:14   populations and that's why I think you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1514">TS</a>]

00:25:15   have to go with those state flags figure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1515">TS</a>]

00:25:17   you know California Texas New York [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1517">TS</a>]

00:25:20   there's hundreds of millions of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1520">TS</a>]

00:25:22   that live in those states will hang on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1522">TS</a>]

00:25:24   there are we gonna start having like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1524">TS</a>]

00:25:25   provinces of China before we have Texas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1525">TS</a>]

00:25:27   then because they've got more people I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1527">TS</a>]

00:25:29   can get behind that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1529">TS</a>]

00:25:30   galloway we've made it clear that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1530">TS</a>]

00:25:32   decision is based on sovereignty that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1532">TS</a>]

00:25:34   decision has been made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1534">TS</a>]

00:25:36   ok so we did the sovereignty level and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1536">TS</a>]

00:25:37   then I think after sovereignty then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1537">TS</a>]

00:25:38   start looking at like what's the market [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1538">TS</a>]

00:25:40   demand for a California emoji versus a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1540">TS</a>]

00:25:45   northern ireland emoji [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1545">TS</a>]

00:25:46   okay great i'm on with you then so are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1546">TS</a>]

00:25:48   you now saying if all the Texans want a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1548">TS</a>]

00:25:51   Texas emoji with some little tiny state [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1551">TS</a>]

00:25:54   I don't know what's the smallest state [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1554">TS</a>]

00:25:55   in America hadn't even know what's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1555">TS</a>]

00:25:56   smallest population like a Wyoming of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1556">TS</a>]

00:25:59   course when is it OK [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1559">TS</a>]

00:26:01   why me and say there's not much demand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1561">TS</a>]

00:26:03   from them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1563">TS</a>]

00:26:04   does that mean they don't get into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1564">TS</a>]

00:26:05   emoji but Texas do or because we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1565">TS</a>]

00:26:08   one state flag of America we get all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1568">TS</a>]

00:26:10   state flags at once you have to do them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1570">TS</a>]

00:26:11   as a collection right we do them as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1571">TS</a>]

00:26:13   collection has 1st argument okay can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1573">TS</a>]

00:26:16   start with the Chinese provinces do them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1576">TS</a>]

00:26:19   all as a collection and then move on to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1579">TS</a>]

00:26:20   the american states there's only so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1580">TS</a>]

00:26:24   labor we have in the world to create all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1584">TS</a>]

00:26:26   of these emoji can you hear that great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1586">TS</a>]

00:26:28   can you hear that sound [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1588">TS</a>]

00:26:29   what sound is that the scent of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1589">TS</a>]

00:26:31   argument crashing down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1591">TS</a>]

00:26:32   Angie I think it's perfectly solid we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1592">TS</a>]

00:26:36   have all the nations and then let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1596">TS</a>]

00:26:38   start going through everything else in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1598">TS</a>]

00:26:39   the world by population divisions as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1599">TS</a>]

00:26:42   sets though haha but i think i did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1602">TS</a>]

00:26:45   notice in the submission and I could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1605">TS</a>]

00:26:46   wrong on this in this submission they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1606">TS</a>]

00:26:49   were going for Scotland Wales and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1609">TS</a>]

00:26:51   England but i don't remember saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1611">TS</a>]

00:26:53   northern ireland in the submit a seat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1613">TS</a>]

00:26:55   now it's not even consistent if that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1615">TS</a>]

00:26:56   true that is inconsistent maybe it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1616">TS</a>]

00:26:58   true but i did want to quickly ask you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1618">TS</a>]

00:27:01   because you know we just love talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1621">TS</a>]

00:27:02   about flags and this is a classic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1622">TS</a>]

00:27:03   episode right doors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1623">TS</a>]

00:27:05   I know how you feel about the Union Jack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1625">TS</a>]

00:27:07   you think it's awesome how do you feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1627">TS</a>]

00:27:10   about the flags of england scotland and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1630">TS</a>]

00:27:13   in particular White House i love that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1633">TS</a>]

00:27:19   size just it says to me grace taking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1639">TS</a>]

00:27:22   this really seriously and you so rarely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1642">TS</a>]

00:27:24   take me seriously but it makes me feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1644">TS</a>]

00:27:26   good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1646">TS</a>]

00:27:27   it's like you settle again suddenly i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1647">TS</a>]

00:27:29   not i'm not just gonna shoot from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1649">TS</a>]

00:27:31   hip on that one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1651">TS</a>]

00:27:31   this is going to require consideration [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1651">TS</a>]

00:27:34   why shoot-from-the-hip I don't think I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1654">TS</a>]

00:27:36   shoot-from-the-hip I don't think you put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1656">TS</a>]

00:27:38   a lot of thought into your answers when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1658">TS</a>]

00:27:39   i ask you questions about say the black [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1659">TS</a>]

00:27:41   stump I think you I think you just say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1661">TS</a>]

00:27:43   anything to shut me up but when you go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1663">TS</a>]

00:27:45   oh I can feel your brain warming up as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1665">TS</a>]

00:27:50   you start thinking about it and I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1670">TS</a>]

00:27:54   about those various flags I mean the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1674">TS</a>]

00:27:57   England what makes me kind of sleepy i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1677">TS</a>]

00:27:59   think the England one is a little boring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1679">TS</a>]

00:28:00   era you know what I mean that literally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1680">TS</a>]

00:28:03   get kinda sleepy when I look at it yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1683">TS</a>]

00:28:04   but you know what those really really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1684">TS</a>]

00:28:07   boring flags like England which is for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1687">TS</a>]

00:28:09   those who don't know it's just white [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1689">TS</a>]

00:28:11   with a red cross on it right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1691">TS</a>]

00:28:12   those flags say to me this country's old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1692">TS</a>]

00:28:16   man this country's seen some stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1696">TS</a>]

00:28:18   because the more boring your flag [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1698">TS</a>]

00:28:22   usually the older you are because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1702">TS</a>]

00:28:24   didn't have to do anything complicated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1704">TS</a>]

00:28:25   because they weren't that many other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1705">TS</a>]

00:28:26   flags to compete with so when someone's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1706">TS</a>]

00:28:29   gotta really really boring flag that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1709">TS</a>]

00:28:31   says to me you got you going to take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1711">TS</a>]

00:28:32   them seriously man they've seen stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1712">TS</a>]

00:28:35   you can't even imagine like if you're a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1715">TS</a>]

00:28:37   new country like America it's like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1717">TS</a>]

00:28:38   let's just check some stars on there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1718">TS</a>]

00:28:41   some struck now more stars more stars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1721">TS</a>]

00:28:43   we're going to be going to bring this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1723">TS</a>]

00:28:44   baby up man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1724">TS</a>]

00:28:45   we got to get noticed was England's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1725">TS</a>]

00:28:48   we don't need to be noticed man like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1728">TS</a>]

00:28:50   where England move just a cross on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1730">TS</a>]

00:28:52   white background [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1732">TS</a>]

00:28:54   yeah well yeah well that's all we had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1734">TS</a>]

00:28:56   when we were making flags stars hadn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1736">TS</a>]

00:28:58   even been invented yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1738">TS</a>]

00:28:59   yeah and also we couldn't die cloth so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1739">TS</a>]

00:29:02   that's why i like it i guess i can try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1742">TS</a>]

00:29:08   to incorporate that into my thoughts on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1748">TS</a>]

00:29:10   it but it's still just kind of makes me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1750">TS</a>]

00:29:11   sleepy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1751">TS</a>]

00:29:12   ok it scotland which is the what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1752">TS</a>]

00:29:15   called the South tires enough st. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1755">TS</a>]

00:29:17   Andrew's cross is that it says here on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1757">TS</a>]

00:29:18   my google thats altai is another term [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1758">TS</a>]

00:29:21   for st. Andrew's cross okay even though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1761">TS</a>]

00:29:23   in theory the scottish flag is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1763">TS</a>]

00:29:25   essentially kinda like the same as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1765">TS</a>]

00:29:27   English flag because it's just now a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1767">TS</a>]

00:29:28   white cross on a blue background [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1768">TS</a>]

00:29:30   I feel like the scottish flag is so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1770">TS</a>]

00:29:32   more exciting it doesn't make me sleepy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1772">TS</a>]

00:29:33   at all looking at it I definitely give a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1773">TS</a>]

00:29:35   thumbs-up to scottish flag without a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1775">TS</a>]

00:29:38   doubt yet I I have to agree with you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1778">TS</a>]

00:29:39   after a great i like the navy blue the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1779">TS</a>]

00:29:41   background of it i just i think it's i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1781">TS</a>]

00:29:43   think it's very good color would you say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1783">TS</a>]

00:29:44   navy blue yeah maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1784">TS</a>]

00:29:46   navy blue is not right navy blues too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1786">TS</a>]

00:29:47   dark i do not have a word in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1787">TS</a>]

00:29:50   vocabulary for the color of blue that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1790">TS</a>]

00:29:51   the scottish flag is but I feel like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1791">TS</a>]

00:29:53   is identifiable as this Scotland black [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1793">TS</a>]

00:29:56   color I definitely like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1796">TS</a>]

00:29:58   alright then what do we have here I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1798">TS</a>]

00:30:00   the way I was flag I'm very curious to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1800">TS</a>]

00:30:02   hear what you think of it I mean you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1802">TS</a>]

00:30:04   have to talk about the Ulster banner for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1804">TS</a>]

00:30:05   Northern Ireland well i think in keeping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1805">TS</a>]

00:30:08   with this submission maybe we should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1808">TS</a>]

00:30:09   just pretend it doesn't exist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1809">TS</a>]

00:30:11   ok sorry Northern Ireland we're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1811">TS</a>]

00:30:12   skip it for today which actually makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1812">TS</a>]

00:30:14   sense automatically for a thing that I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1814">TS</a>]

00:30:16   going to show you and ask about so wails [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1816">TS</a>]

00:30:18   I don't know I don't know about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1818">TS</a>]

00:30:21   whales flag [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1821">TS</a>]

00:30:22   I'm never quite sure what to think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1822">TS</a>]

00:30:23   it because on one hand they have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1823">TS</a>]

00:30:26   dragon which takes up most of the flag [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1826">TS</a>]

00:30:28   and dragons are awesome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1828">TS</a>]

00:30:30   it's hard to argue against dragons but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1830">TS</a>]

00:30:33   at the same time I'm not really sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1833">TS</a>]

00:30:36   that I like that dragon I think for like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1836">TS</a>]

00:30:39   with many flag designs can suffer from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1839">TS</a>]

00:30:42   being overly complicated and yet kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1842">TS</a>]

00:30:46   childish at the same time hmmm i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1846">TS</a>]

00:30:50   funny mixed feelings about that dragon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1850">TS</a>]

00:30:52   this is probably the best way to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1852">TS</a>]

00:30:54   summarize my thoughts in the whales flag [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1854">TS</a>]

00:30:55   the further away from it i am the more I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1855">TS</a>]

00:30:57   like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1857">TS</a>]

00:30:58   the closer I get to the whales flag [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1858">TS</a>]

00:31:00   probably the less i like it i think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1860">TS</a>]

00:31:02   word flag is awesome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1862">TS</a>]

00:31:03   mm but i realized that i probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1863">TS</a>]

00:31:06   shouldn't and I realize you probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1866">TS</a>]

00:31:07   shouldn't I mean certainly no child [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1867">TS</a>]

00:31:09   could draw because that dragon is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1869">TS</a>]

00:31:10   incredibly complicated right and you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1870">TS</a>]

00:31:13   right it is a weird mixture sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1873">TS</a>]

00:31:15   childish and complicated when I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1875">TS</a>]

00:31:18   know I just I think it's one of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1878">TS</a>]

00:31:19   things that's just been part of my life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1879">TS</a>]

00:31:21   for so long that I kind of ignore that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1881">TS</a>]

00:31:23   side of a I just think it works just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1883">TS</a>]

00:31:25   switch the country and I don't know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1885">TS</a>]

00:31:27   it's because actually sort of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1887">TS</a>]

00:31:28   country or have just been associated for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1888">TS</a>]

00:31:30   so long in my head that I cannot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1890">TS</a>]

00:31:32   disentangle them but right this is of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1892">TS</a>]

00:31:34   course the Association problem at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1894">TS</a>]

00:31:36   the flags have for you you're wrapping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1896">TS</a>]

00:31:38   up your feelings of the nation with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1898">TS</a>]

00:31:41   flag itself in a way that's impossible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1901">TS</a>]

00:31:42   to distinguish yeah and i really like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1902">TS</a>]

00:31:45   way I was a nobody like Welsh people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1905">TS</a>]

00:31:46   because I'm not English most English [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1906">TS</a>]

00:31:48   people don't but i'm not actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1908">TS</a>]

00:31:50   English of course I'm Australian and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1910">TS</a>]

00:31:52   because Welsh people hate english people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1912">TS</a>]

00:31:54   and Australian say English people I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1914">TS</a>]

00:31:56   like they're my brothers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1916">TS</a>]

00:31:58   Wow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1918">TS</a>]

00:32:02   leave your comments on the Red Planet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1922">TS</a>]

00:32:04   some e+ tribalism right there Brady do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1924">TS</a>]

00:32:08   it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1928">TS</a>]

00:32:08   it all comes down to sport so i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1928">TS</a>]

00:32:11   i'll ask your opinion on is I actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1931">TS</a>]

00:32:14   think that the welsh dragon looks better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1934">TS</a>]

00:32:17   simply as an outline which I've seen in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1937">TS</a>]

00:32:20   a few design motifs like if you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1940">TS</a>]

00:32:21   color the whole thing in his red i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1941">TS</a>]

00:32:24   it's interesting and there is a proposed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1944">TS</a>]

00:32:27   version of the union jack flag which I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1947">TS</a>]

00:32:30   would like your opinion on which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1950">TS</a>]

00:32:32   combines the whales flag into it because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1952">TS</a>]

00:32:36   right now there is no whales iconography [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1956">TS</a>]

00:32:38   on the Union Jack as it stands so i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1958">TS</a>]

00:32:40   sent you an image and i'm curious to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1960">TS</a>]

00:32:43   what you think of this flag [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1963">TS</a>]

00:32:44   ok now file fail not just because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1964">TS</a>]

00:32:48   too BTW now and too complicated and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1968">TS</a>]

00:32:50   Dragons too small but also what great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1970">TS</a>]

00:32:53   has sent me is essentially the Union [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1973">TS</a>]

00:32:55   Jack with a little tiny dragon right in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1975">TS</a>]

00:32:56   the middle and it almost puts too much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1976">TS</a>]

00:32:59   emphasis on the dragon because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1979">TS</a>]

00:33:00   everything's pointing at her and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1980">TS</a>]

00:33:02   spread the center and suddenly makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1982">TS</a>]

00:33:04   while seem like it's the center of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1984">TS</a>]

00:33:06   everything that's a big fail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1986">TS</a>]

00:33:09   big fail big pile what about you what do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1989">TS</a>]

00:33:12   you think of that I think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1992">TS</a>]

00:33:13   interesting but it's also one of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1993">TS</a>]

00:33:16   things like mandatory voting that I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1996">TS</a>]

00:33:19   ever come to a solid opinion on every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/1999">TS</a>]

00:33:21   once in awhile i remember this design of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2001">TS</a>]

00:33:22   flag with the whales dragon in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2002">TS</a>]

00:33:24   center exist and i go back and look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2004">TS</a>]

00:33:26   it and I can never quite make up my mind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2006">TS</a>]

00:33:27   about whether I like it or whether I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2007">TS</a>]

00:33:29   don't just like with mandatory voting go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2009">TS</a>]

00:33:31   back and forth forever for 20 years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2011">TS</a>]

00:33:33   about whether i think it's a good idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2013">TS</a>]

00:33:35   or not and i feel that exact same way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2015">TS</a>]

00:33:37   about this flag you can't mess with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2017">TS</a>]

00:33:40   Union Jack pray that's like if you get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2020">TS</a>]

00:33:42   mess with that when you stop you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2022">TS</a>]

00:33:45   get me wrong I would never propose that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2025">TS</a>]

00:33:47   we actually changed to this flag is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2027">TS</a>]

00:33:49   a question of do I think this is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2029">TS</a>]

00:33:50   interesting design or not but now the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2030">TS</a>]

00:33:52   union jack is an amazing flag that will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2032">TS</a>]

00:33:56   hopefully but possibly not live forever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2036">TS</a>]

00:34:00   I am k to talk to you about Tesla em [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2040">TS</a>]

00:34:05   because we didn't talk about last time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2045">TS</a>]

00:34:07   but i know you had a ride and in a Tesla [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2047">TS</a>]

00:34:09   for the first time you break your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2049">TS</a>]

00:34:10   Tessler virginity I want to know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2050">TS</a>]

00:34:12   you think about it now you've been in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2052">TS</a>]

00:34:14   one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2054">TS</a>]

00:34:14   it's like obviously it's all more real i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2054">TS</a>]

00:34:17   was wondering if you tell me anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2057">TS</a>]

00:34:18   about I haven't asked you on or off the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2058">TS</a>]

00:34:20   air and I'm really getting to know ya so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2060">TS</a>]

00:34:23   our mutual friend Marco Arment actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2063">TS</a>]

00:34:27   gave me a ride in his Tesla and that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2067">TS</a>]

00:34:32   part of my travels this summer when I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2072">TS</a>]

00:34:34   went to new york and it just worked out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2074">TS</a>]

00:34:36   that I happen to be able to possibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2076">TS</a>]

00:34:39   meet up with Marco and then he dangled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2079">TS</a>]

00:34:41   the idea of being able to ride in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2081">TS</a>]

00:34:43   Tesla in front of me and I was like sold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2083">TS</a>]

00:34:46   ok I have to make this happen now so i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2086">TS</a>]

00:34:48   went up to meet him and yeah we've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2088">TS</a>]

00:34:50   to drive around in the test out for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2090">TS</a>]

00:34:51   little while and I mean first of all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2091">TS</a>]

00:34:54   Tesla's are just super cool cars there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2094">TS</a>]

00:34:57   no doubt about that like they just look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2097">TS</a>]

00:34:58   cool from the outside and nice-looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2098">TS</a>]

00:35:00   yeah and I had never actually sat in one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2100">TS</a>]

00:35:04   on the inside and on the inside as well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2104">TS</a>]

00:35:06   like the test those are just cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2106">TS</a>]

00:35:07   everything about them is super sleek I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2107">TS</a>]

00:35:10   think and one of the things that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2110">TS</a>]

00:35:13   wanted to see in the test level were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2113">TS</a>]

00:35:15   driving around that is hard to get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2115">TS</a>]

00:35:17   sense of from just looking at pictures [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2117">TS</a>]

00:35:19   is how does this big screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2119">TS</a>]

00:35:22   work in the center because that such the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2122">TS</a>]

00:35:24   different thing about the interior of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2124">TS</a>]

00:35:26   that car versus other cars so I kept [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2126">TS</a>]

00:35:28   looking out on the road I guess we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2128">TS</a>]

00:35:30   driving around trying to see how does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2130">TS</a>]

00:35:31   this screen work in my peripheral vision [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2131">TS</a>]

00:35:33   and especially because i am someone who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2133">TS</a>]

00:35:37   the older I get I find I have more and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2137">TS</a>]

00:35:39   more motion sickness and cars if I look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2139">TS</a>]

00:35:42   down and look up even briefly to read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2142">TS</a>]

00:35:44   those kind of curious to see like if I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2144">TS</a>]

00:35:46   looking at the the window and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2146">TS</a>]

00:35:48   looking down the screen looking back up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2148">TS</a>]

00:35:49   and have to say because the screen is so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2149">TS</a>]

00:35:51   huge I think it really works on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2151">TS</a>]

00:35:55   interior and it was nice to see that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2155">TS</a>]

00:35:56   they had thought through a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2156">TS</a>]

00:35:58   clever design elements about how to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2158">TS</a>]

00:36:01   control a bunch of things from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2161">TS</a>]

00:36:02   steering wheel or sections of the screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2162">TS</a>]

00:36:05   that never ever ever changed so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2165">TS</a>]

00:36:07   like in the bottom corners you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2167">TS</a>]

00:36:08   always have muscle memory for making the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2168">TS</a>]

00:36:10   car do certain things I think like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2170">TS</a>]

00:36:12   temperature controls and some other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2172">TS</a>]

00:36:13   stuff was down there so from the inside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2173">TS</a>]

00:36:16   I was very very impressed with the Tesla [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2176">TS</a>]

00:36:19   i have to say i quite liked it so marco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2179">TS</a>]

00:36:22   was showing off the super fast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2182">TS</a>]

00:36:25   acceleration which I did not like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2185">TS</a>]

00:36:27   because I don't appreciate the sensation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2187">TS</a>]

00:36:29   of super fast acceleration that was very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2189">TS</a>]

00:36:31   impressive as like you can keep showing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2191">TS</a>]

00:36:35   this off if you don't mind cleaning the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2195">TS</a>]

00:36:37   interior of your car shortly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2197">TS</a>]

00:36:39   that's a game you can play if you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2199">TS</a>]

00:36:41   to but a bunch of the things that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2201">TS</a>]

00:36:43   car does as well just seems so natural [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2203">TS</a>]

00:36:46   like for example that there's no jarring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2206">TS</a>]

00:36:49   because of gear changing it just seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2209">TS</a>]

00:36:51   like this is the way cars should work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2211">TS</a>]

00:36:53   you don't miss it at all like oh boy I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2213">TS</a>]

00:36:55   wish this car was really Jenky is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2215">TS</a>]

00:36:57   accelerated as it as it tries to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2217">TS</a>]

00:36:58   manually shift through gears right it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2218">TS</a>]

00:37:00   doesn't do that at all so that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2220">TS</a>]

00:37:02   fantastic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2222">TS</a>]

00:37:03   and then finally the thing that I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2223">TS</a>]

00:37:05   most interested to see was a lot of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2225">TS</a>]

00:37:07   self-driving stuff in person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2227">TS</a>]

00:37:10   yeah and i know that i am the wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2230">TS</a>]

00:37:13   person to evaluate this in some ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2233">TS</a>]

00:37:16   because it's a thing that I have a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2236">TS</a>]

00:37:19   of interest and but I felt again like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2239">TS</a>]

00:37:22   the self-driving stuff was also natural [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2242">TS</a>]

00:37:25   that it was entirely unremarkable there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2245">TS</a>]

00:37:29   was no moment of like wow I'm in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2249">TS</a>]

00:37:31   self-driving car and a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2251">TS</a>]

00:37:32   like watching this thing trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2252">TS</a>]

00:37:33   navigate the highway and stuff is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2253">TS</a>]

00:37:35   yeah this just seems natural just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2255">TS</a>]

00:37:37   no gear shifts the self-driving stuff it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2257">TS</a>]

00:37:39   seems like this is just the way car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2259">TS</a>]

00:37:41   should work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2261">TS</a>]

00:37:42   this is the way I want these things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2262">TS</a>]

00:37:43   because it just plod along and it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2263">TS</a>]

00:37:45   it doesn't like change lanes and do over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2265">TS</a>]

00:37:47   text does or doesn't like how much does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2267">TS</a>]

00:37:49   it don't sign at the moment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2269">TS</a>]

00:37:50   yeah so this was one of the things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2270">TS</a>]

00:37:52   it was a bit of a funny experience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2272">TS</a>]

00:37:53   because in the discussion of how soon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2273">TS</a>]

00:37:58   are self-driving cars coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2278">TS</a>]

00:38:00   Marco owning a Tesla and actually using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2280">TS</a>]

00:38:04   self driving features thinks that I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2284">TS</a>]

00:38:06   being overly optimistic about how soon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2286">TS</a>]

00:38:08   these things are are going to arrive and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2288">TS</a>]

00:38:11   part of what he wanted to show me in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2291">TS</a>]

00:38:14   demo was situations under which it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2294">TS</a>]

00:38:16   doesn't work or it doesn't always do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2296">TS</a>]

00:38:18   precisely what you would expect it to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2298">TS</a>]

00:38:20   and so he was trying to show me a bunch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2300">TS</a>]

00:38:22   of this stuff but my experience of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2302">TS</a>]

00:38:24   sitting in the car was mostly thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2304">TS</a>]

00:38:25   like I think the cars doing pretty well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2305">TS</a>]

00:38:27   I think that's the only great there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2307">TS</a>]

00:38:29   a situation where we were on the highway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2309">TS</a>]

00:38:31   and he has his hands off of the wheel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2311">TS</a>]

00:38:34   and the car is driving on the highway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2314">TS</a>]

00:38:36   and what it does is it stays in its own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2316">TS</a>]

00:38:38   lane and it tries to keep an appropriate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2318">TS</a>]

00:38:40   distance from the car in front of it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2320">TS</a>]

00:38:41   you can tell the Tesla I would like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2321">TS</a>]

00:38:44   turn lanes without actually forcing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2324">TS</a>]

00:38:48   to and so the car makes a decision about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2328">TS</a>]

00:38:50   whether or not it's going to change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2330">TS</a>]

00:38:51   lanes and so marco was able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2331">TS</a>]

00:38:54   essentially put the car in a situation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2334">TS</a>]

00:38:56   where he told it to change lanes but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2336">TS</a>]

00:39:00   car wouldn't even though there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2340">TS</a>]

00:39:02   nothing blocking the way right like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2342">TS</a>]

00:39:04   test low clearly thought that there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2344">TS</a>]

00:39:06   some reason it shouldn't change lanes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2346">TS</a>]

00:39:07   even though everything was fine like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2347">TS</a>]

00:39:08   human driver would think it was okay and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2348">TS</a>]

00:39:11   I was looking at that thinking yeah like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2351">TS</a>]

00:39:13   that's a mistake like the car should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2353">TS</a>]

00:39:15   changing lanes but it's not but if the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2355">TS</a>]

00:39:17   thing is overly cautious like I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2357">TS</a>]

00:39:20   hardly fault it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2360">TS</a>]

00:39:21   yeah I mean it's a pretty amazing thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2361">TS</a>]

00:39:23   it's like God has parted the Red Sea and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2363">TS</a>]

00:39:25   people are complaining that the sand is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2365">TS</a>]

00:39:26   still a bit damp yeah hello my feet are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2366">TS</a>]

00:39:28   getting wet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2368">TS</a>]

00:39:29   yeah i mean i would be remiss therefore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2369">TS</a>]

00:39:33   to not now bring up the fact we did have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2373">TS</a>]

00:39:34   her first death [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2374">TS</a>]

00:39:36   yeah in a Tesla this obviously has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2376">TS</a>]

00:39:38   crossed your radar at Tesla had a crash [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2378">TS</a>]

00:39:40   while in this auto drive mode and a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2380">TS</a>]

00:39:43   of people said I was great say about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2383">TS</a>]

00:39:45   that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2385">TS</a>]

00:39:45   so what's great about that well it had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2385">TS</a>]

00:39:49   to happen didn't that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2389">TS</a>]

00:39:50   yeah that's exactly its it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2390">TS</a>]

00:39:52   absolutely inevitable that somebody you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2392">TS</a>]

00:39:55   would die eventually in a Tesla and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2395">TS</a>]

00:39:59   think the very fact that that is a news [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2399">TS</a>]

00:40:01   story goes to show you how I think this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2401">TS</a>]

00:40:04   is incredibly rare and i forget what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2404">TS</a>]

00:40:06   numbers are but Tesla came out with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2406">TS</a>]

00:40:07   numbers but like how many millions and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2407">TS</a>]

00:40:09   millions of human miles have been driven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2409">TS</a>]

00:40:11   in the autopilot system and now we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2411">TS</a>]

00:40:13   finally have one person has died [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2413">TS</a>]

00:40:16   to me this stuff is always just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2416">TS</a>]

00:40:17   question of there's some group of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2417">TS</a>]

00:40:21   who think it needs to be perfect before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2421">TS</a>]

00:40:23   people start using it and i am not in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2423">TS</a>]

00:40:26   that group [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2426">TS</a>]

00:40:27   my only question is is it better than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2427">TS</a>]

00:40:29   human drivers and again like the Tesla [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2429">TS</a>]

00:40:31   can't drive point-to-point there's lots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2431">TS</a>]

00:40:33   of things they can't do there's lots of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2433">TS</a>]

00:40:35   ways it's kind of cheating so like one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2435">TS</a>]

00:40:36   of the things marker showed me that I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2436">TS</a>]

00:40:38   didn't know is that on local roads where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2438">TS</a>]

00:40:41   the Tesla is clearly much more uncertain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2441">TS</a>]

00:40:44   about turns and speed limits and all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2444">TS</a>]

00:40:46   rest of this it has a kind of cheating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2446">TS</a>]

00:40:48   mode where it'll follow a car in front [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2448">TS</a>]

00:40:51   of its on local roads in situations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2451">TS</a>]

00:40:54   where it seems like it couldn't self [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2454">TS</a>]

00:40:56   drive itself and I thought that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2456">TS</a>]

00:40:57   interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2457">TS</a>]

00:40:58   this is a case where yes on a local road [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2458">TS</a>]

00:41:00   it is much more limited and it does way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2460">TS</a>]

00:41:02   better on a highway so again this stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2462">TS</a>]

00:41:05   isn't self self driving but it's like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2465">TS</a>]

00:41:08   really feel like it's gonna be better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2468">TS</a>]

00:41:09   than human drivers very shortly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2469">TS</a>]

00:41:12   yes people will die but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2472">TS</a>]

00:41:15   horrific numbers of people died on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2475">TS</a>]

00:41:18   roads right now so when people sent via [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2478">TS</a>]

00:41:21   Twitter and a whole bunch of other ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2481">TS</a>]

00:41:23   like oh my gosh what do I think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2483">TS</a>]

00:41:24   someone dying in a Tesla like well I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2484">TS</a>]

00:41:27   don't really think about it very much i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2487">TS</a>]

00:41:29   just i just do not think it matters i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2489">TS</a>]

00:41:31   don't think it's an important news story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2491">TS</a>]

00:41:33   in anyway when do you disagree with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2493">TS</a>]

00:41:36   now i don't actually I i greatly i mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2496">TS</a>]

00:41:38   i don't want to sort of fire up the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2498">TS</a>]

00:41:41   cheer pressure or have you know have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2501">TS</a>]

00:41:43   people pylon and I know there's all this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2503">TS</a>]

00:41:45   debate about the incident itself but if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2505">TS</a>]

00:41:48   it was caused by the fact that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2508">TS</a>]

00:41:50   camera and the computer couldn't tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2510">TS</a>]

00:41:51   the difference between the white side of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2511">TS</a>]

00:41:53   the lorry and the white sky that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2513">TS</a>]

00:41:56   quite a motive it's quite a good scare [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2516">TS</a>]

00:41:58   story you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2518">TS</a>]

00:41:58   and if it is the case i hope they fix it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2518">TS</a>]

00:42:00   but I kind of agree its peak cliche but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2520">TS</a>]

00:42:04   you know people died in plane crashes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2524">TS</a>]

00:42:06   all the time it doesn't stop is flying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2526">TS</a>]

00:42:07   and things like that so I think it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2527">TS</a>]

00:42:10   like a big deal but this move to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2530">TS</a>]

00:42:13   self-driving cars is less of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2533">TS</a>]

00:42:17   technology battle and more of a battle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2537">TS</a>]

00:42:19   for hearts and minds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2539">TS</a>]

00:42:20   I have to say I've come to your way of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2540">TS</a>]

00:42:22   thinking you know I always thought this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2542">TS</a>]

00:42:24   was further away in the future then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2544">TS</a>]

00:42:26   did and I now think it's closer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2546">TS</a>]

00:42:29   it just seems to be all happening so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2549">TS</a>]

00:42:30   quickly now so many trials so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2550">TS</a>]

00:42:33   implementations in sort of real-world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2553">TS</a>]

00:42:35   environments that I thought was a bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2555">TS</a>]

00:42:37   further down the road it's already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2557">TS</a>]

00:42:38   happening so I'm sort of thinking great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2558">TS</a>]

00:42:41   was right on this one I think this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2561">TS</a>]

00:42:42   gonna happen quick now a question I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2562">TS</a>]

00:42:45   for you because you are much more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2565">TS</a>]

00:42:47   plugged into the news than I am because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2567">TS</a>]

00:42:49   my only experience of hearing about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2569">TS</a>]

00:42:51   story is people individually contacting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2571">TS</a>]

00:42:53   me about it but i'm willing to bet like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2573">TS</a>]

00:42:58   this story's not gaining a huge amount [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2578">TS</a>]

00:43:00   of traction it is a news story and of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2580">TS</a>]

00:43:04   course like that the news is filled with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2584">TS</a>]

00:43:06   anomalous events like that basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2586">TS</a>]

00:43:08   what the news is a collection of things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2588">TS</a>]

00:43:10   that are unusual but is this gaining [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2590">TS</a>]

00:43:13   lots of traction like our people super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2593">TS</a>]

00:43:14   concerned or is this just yet another in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2594">TS</a>]

00:43:17   the endless stream of news stories that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2597">TS</a>]

00:43:19   just washes by that nobody really cares [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2599">TS</a>]

00:43:21   about two weeks later it happened a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2601">TS</a>]

00:43:23   time for Tesla because there's so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2603">TS</a>]

00:43:25   other massive things happening in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2605">TS</a>]

00:43:27   world of the moment that in the fight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2607">TS</a>]

00:43:29   first news time and coverage it probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2609">TS</a>]

00:43:31   didn't get as much as it could have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2611">TS</a>]

00:43:33   fair bit of a break like you know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2613">TS</a>]

00:43:35   it's still coming up and still being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2615">TS</a>]

00:43:37   brought up in articles and i'm still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2617">TS</a>]

00:43:38   seeing around the place like when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2618">TS</a>]

00:43:40   say it's a battle for hearts and minds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2620">TS</a>]

00:43:41   I'm not even convinced that that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2621">TS</a>]

00:43:43   case I feel like there has been a real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2623">TS</a>]

00:43:45   silent shift in people's thoughts on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2625">TS</a>]

00:43:49   self-driving cars i have a feeling that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2629">TS</a>]

00:43:52   much much more of the population feels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2632">TS</a>]

00:43:55   that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2635">TS</a>]

00:43:55   oh this is just a thing that's coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2635">TS</a>]

00:43:56   and I don't bet that this is going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2636">TS</a>]

00:43:59   like a a big story that causes problems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2639">TS</a>]

00:44:01   for Tesla in the long run i have a hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2641">TS</a>]

00:44:05   time imagining that's going to be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2645">TS</a>]

00:44:06   case I think you're I think the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2646">TS</a>]

00:44:08   thing that's gonna hurt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2648">TS</a>]

00:44:09   tesslar and the other people advocating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2649">TS</a>]

00:44:12   self-driving cars will pay a spite or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2652">TS</a>]

00:44:15   like some kind of glitch where three or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2655">TS</a>]

00:44:18   four happen in the same way so i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2658">TS</a>]

00:44:20   you're right i think the one-off hasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2660">TS</a>]

00:44:22   hurt him really badly and I want to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2662">TS</a>]

00:44:24   her if there's some systemic problem is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2664">TS</a>]

00:44:27   there anything you didn't like about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2667">TS</a>]

00:44:28   Tesla well it was funny because when i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2668">TS</a>]

00:44:30   was sitting in the car and we're driving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2670">TS</a>]

00:44:33   along the road [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2673">TS</a>]

00:44:34   I'm thinking wow everything in this test [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2674">TS</a>]

00:44:35   seems amazing like I love this future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2675">TS</a>]

00:44:37   space car i wish i could have any reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2677">TS</a>]

00:44:40   to buy one right there like no real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2680">TS</a>]

00:44:42   always I could have reason to buy 1i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2682">TS</a>]

00:44:44   asked Marco the same question I said is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2684">TS</a>]

00:44:47   there anything about this car that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2687">TS</a>]

00:44:49   don't like and he had a couple of minor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2689">TS</a>]

00:44:53   just likes about it but overall he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2693">TS</a>]

00:44:57   seemed really really happy with the car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2697">TS</a>]

00:44:59   as well and so I feel like I had nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2699">TS</a>]

00:45:02   in particular to say like oh I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2702">TS</a>]

00:45:03   like this about the car struck me as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2703">TS</a>]

00:45:05   totally wrong and the owner of the car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2705">TS</a>]

00:45:07   had a few complaints but nothing I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2707">TS</a>]

00:45:09   even remember at this at this later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2709">TS</a>]

00:45:11   point of being like oh wow that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2711">TS</a>]

00:45:13   really good point like that that is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2713">TS</a>]

00:45:15   is a really annoying feature that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2715">TS</a>]

00:45:16   wouldn't have thought about it wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2716">TS</a>]

00:45:17   have realized until I own it is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2717">TS</a>]

00:45:19   nope everything about this car seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2719">TS</a>]

00:45:21   amazing so two thumbs up for Tesla this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2721">TS</a>]

00:45:25   episode of Hello internet is brought to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2725">TS</a>]

00:45:27   you by igloo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2727">TS</a>]

00:45:29   how many of you might be working at a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2729">TS</a>]

00:45:31   big company with an internet that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2731">TS</a>]

00:45:33   just a terrible terrible piece of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2733">TS</a>]

00:45:37   software to work with i mean actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2737">TS</a>]

00:45:39   isn't even really a piece of software it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2739">TS</a>]

00:45:41   feels much more like it's a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2741">TS</a>]

00:45:43   pipes connected to old computers held [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2743">TS</a>]

00:45:46   together with duct tape most internets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2746">TS</a>]

00:45:49   are just awful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2749">TS</a>]

00:45:50   I used awful internets at my school but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2750">TS</a>]

00:45:53   igloo is something different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2753">TS</a>]

00:45:55   igloo is a feeling of levity compared to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2755">TS</a>]

00:45:58   other internets because igloo is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2758">TS</a>]

00:46:01   internet you will actually like go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2761">TS</a>]

00:46:04   igloo software.com /hello and just take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2764">TS</a>]

00:46:08   a look at the way igloo looks they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2768">TS</a>]

00:46:11   a nice clean modern design that will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2771">TS</a>]

00:46:15   just be a relief on your sad tired eyes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2775">TS</a>]

00:46:18   compared to the internet that you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2778">TS</a>]

00:46:20   currently working with at your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2780">TS</a>]

00:46:22   company and he glues not just a pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2782">TS</a>]

00:46:23   face igloo lets you share news organize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2783">TS</a>]

00:46:26   your files coordinate calendars and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2786">TS</a>]

00:46:29   manage your projects all in one place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2789">TS</a>]

00:46:31   and it's not just files in a bucket [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2791">TS</a>]

00:46:34   either their latest upgrade Viking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2794">TS</a>]

00:46:36   revolves around interacting with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2796">TS</a>]

00:46:39   documents how people make changes to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2799">TS</a>]

00:46:41   them how you can receive feedback on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2801">TS</a>]

00:46:43   them if you're the man in charge there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2803">TS</a>]

00:46:45   is an ability to track who has seen what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2805">TS</a>]

00:46:48   across the internet so you can have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2808">TS</a>]

00:46:50   something like read receipts in email [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2810">TS</a>]

00:46:52   where you know if everyone has actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2812">TS</a>]

00:46:55   seen and signed off on whatever document [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2815">TS</a>]

00:46:58   they need to so if your company has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2818">TS</a>]

00:47:01   legacy internet that looks like it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2821">TS</a>]

00:47:03   built in the nineteen nineties then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2823">TS</a>]

00:47:06   should give igloo a try please sign up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2826">TS</a>]

00:47:09   for a free trial at igloo software.com / [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2829">TS</a>]

00:47:13   hello to let a glue know that you came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2833">TS</a>]

00:47:16   from us you do some corners i see we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2836">TS</a>]

00:47:20   have a paper cut corner here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2840">TS</a>]

00:47:22   oh yeah Brady's paper cup there's a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2842">TS</a>]

00:47:26   of sport going on in the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2846">TS</a>]

00:47:27   environment gray oh boy there always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2847">TS</a>]

00:47:30   seems to be an idea isn't there always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2850">TS</a>]

00:47:32   sports there should always be sport [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2852">TS</a>]

00:47:34   because people love sporting events so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2854">TS</a>]

00:47:37   there should always be sporting events [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2857">TS</a>]

00:47:38   going on right yeah but we've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2858">TS</a>]

00:47:40   there's been a rich vein just lightly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2860">TS</a>]

00:47:42   okay anyway anyway likes always up there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2862">TS</a>]

00:47:45   so everyone saying to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2865">TS</a>]

00:47:47   arto gray about Iceland the euros or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2867">TS</a>]

00:47:49   whales at the euros or tell them about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2869">TS</a>]

00:47:51   this or tell him about that and there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2871">TS</a>]

00:47:54   no point doing that now that i'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2874">TS</a>]

00:47:56   going to do that I don't think you are a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2876">TS</a>]

00:47:59   few nations that have had unexpected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2879">TS</a>]

00:48:02   success in the euros does not compare [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2882">TS</a>]

00:48:04   into my mind with the amazing story that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2884">TS</a>]

00:48:06   is Leicester City just cause I brought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2886">TS</a>]

00:48:08   up that list a city story i'm not going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2888">TS</a>]

00:48:09   to bring up every underdog story that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2889">TS</a>]

00:48:11   happens in sport on the podcast because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2891">TS</a>]

00:48:13   gray will probably stop being my friend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2893">TS</a>]

00:48:15   yeah very likely imagine i have just as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2895">TS</a>]

00:48:19   much patience for this stuff as your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2899">TS</a>]

00:48:20   wife would get some somewhat but not an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2900">TS</a>]

00:48:25   infinite well ok it's so all the sport [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2905">TS</a>]

00:48:29   i've been watching lately in the media [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2909">TS</a>]

00:48:30   coverage lately has brought up two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2910">TS</a>]

00:48:32   things there's two things I've noticed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2912">TS</a>]

00:48:34   that get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2914">TS</a>]

00:48:35   I go to annoy me ok so i thought i'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2915">TS</a>]

00:48:38   bring them up one is when it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2918">TS</a>]

00:48:42   commentators and pundits and people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2922">TS</a>]

00:48:44   telling the story of sport talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2924">TS</a>]

00:48:47   getting revenge for banishing memories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2927">TS</a>]

00:48:50   and I think there's a real inequality in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2930">TS</a>]

00:48:52   it that shows how much they live in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2932">TS</a>]

00:48:54   moment let me give you an example say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2934">TS</a>]

00:48:57   two teams play in the world cup final [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2937">TS</a>]

00:48:59   against a liberia plays China the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2939">TS</a>]

00:49:03   cup final ok right and left it at ya and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2943">TS</a>]

00:49:06   Liberia win right the next time those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2946">TS</a>]

00:49:09   two countries made and it could be in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2949">TS</a>]

00:49:11   lesser tournament and it could be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2951">TS</a>]

00:49:13   in the quarterfinals and this time China [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2953">TS</a>]

00:49:17   win commentators always say they got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2957">TS</a>]

00:49:20   their revenge they banish the memories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2960">TS</a>]

00:49:22   of that world cup loss and they finally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2962">TS</a>]

00:49:24   got their revenge on liberia by beating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2964">TS</a>]

00:49:27   them there is not revenge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2967">TS</a>]

00:49:30   the only way you can get like total [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2970">TS</a>]

00:49:33   revenge for a sporting loss is to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2973">TS</a>]

00:49:38   an equivalent game like another world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2978">TS</a>]

00:49:40   cup final and this time win that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2980">TS</a>]

00:49:43   only way you can erase the memory or get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2983">TS</a>]

00:49:45   them back or square the ledger but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2985">TS</a>]

00:49:48   because sports people always want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2988">TS</a>]

00:49:49   hype up the current game by the way say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2989">TS</a>]

00:49:52   this game is a chance to get revenge for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2992">TS</a>]

00:49:54   that previous game it is not revenge if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2994">TS</a>]

00:49:57   it is not the same tournament at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/2997">TS</a>]

00:50:00   same level meeting someone in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3000">TS</a>]

00:50:02   quarterfinal four years after you lost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3002">TS</a>]

00:50:05   in the final that's not revenge and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3005">TS</a>]

00:50:09   noise me I thought you were going to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3009">TS</a>]

00:50:11   the only way for China to get revenge in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3011">TS</a>]

00:50:14   this scenario would be to take over an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3014">TS</a>]

00:50:16   axe liberia clothes and let me tell you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3016">TS</a>]

00:50:20   what revenge is revenge is wiping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3020">TS</a>]

00:50:22   liberia off the face of the earth right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3022">TS</a>]

00:50:25   does does taking turns winning a game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3025">TS</a>]

00:50:27   you're playing with each other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3027">TS</a>]

00:50:29   is there any way that they can even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3029">TS</a>]

00:50:30   remotely count as revenge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3030">TS</a>]

00:50:32   no it cannot know what I mean that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3032">TS</a>]

00:50:35   there that would be guide the other way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3035">TS</a>]

00:50:37   I think the whole premise of of even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3037">TS</a>]

00:50:39   revenge in a sporting event doesn't make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3039">TS</a>]

00:50:41   any sense even if the games are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3041">TS</a>]

00:50:43   equivalent it still doesn't make any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3043">TS</a>]

00:50:45   sense at all like you're playing a game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3045">TS</a>]

00:50:47   with each other and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3047">TS</a>]

00:50:48   11 and then someone else one as will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3048">TS</a>]

00:50:51   inevitably happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3051">TS</a>]

00:50:53   revenge is something that you plot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3053">TS</a>]

00:50:55   stealthily for four years and like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3055">TS</a>]

00:50:57   spring upon your opponent when they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3057">TS</a>]

00:50:59   no idea what's going to happen as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3059">TS</a>]

00:51:01   opposed to a thing that takes place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3061">TS</a>]

00:51:03   within a rigid and ordered system that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3063">TS</a>]

00:51:06   has rules that we all agree on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3066">TS</a>]

00:51:08   I don't think the concept of revenge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3068">TS</a>]

00:51:10   makes any sense in this whole arena [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3070">TS</a>]

00:51:13   well okay maybe you don't like the word [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3073">TS</a>]

00:51:14   revenge but there's just there's this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3074">TS</a>]

00:51:16   whole thing about squaring the ledger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3076">TS</a>]

00:51:18   you know getting them back for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3078">TS</a>]

00:51:19   defeat and say you defeat us in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3079">TS</a>]

00:51:22   game now we defeated you everything even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3082">TS</a>]

00:51:24   my say everything is not even if the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3084">TS</a>]

00:51:27   game is not the same importance but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3087">TS</a>]

00:51:29   commentators don't seem to realize that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3089">TS</a>]

00:51:31   they want to hype up the game they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3091">TS</a>]

00:51:32   talking about i'm sure they totally do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3092">TS</a>]

00:51:34   realize it but they're doing what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3094">TS</a>]

00:51:36   did precisely what you're saying they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3096">TS</a>]

00:51:37   just trying to hype it up it's just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3097">TS</a>]

00:51:39   the news Brady right they know a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3099">TS</a>]

00:51:41   the stuff that they're talking about is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3101">TS</a>]

00:51:42   dumb and won't matter in a week what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3102">TS</a>]

00:51:44   they want to hype it up so that it feels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3104">TS</a>]

00:51:45   like it's really important right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3105">TS</a>]

00:51:47   don't you agree with that analogy is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3107">TS</a>]

00:51:49   bit of that moving right along and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3109">TS</a>]

00:51:52   other thing that's really getting on my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3112">TS</a>]

00:51:54   nerves at the moment in especially in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3114">TS</a>]

00:51:56   the world of sport but i know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3116">TS</a>]

00:51:57   pervades all media is this thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3117">TS</a>]

00:52:00   everyone does where they use three words [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3120">TS</a>]

00:52:04   and they punctuate it is a lot of sport [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3124">TS</a>]

00:52:07   my twitter feed and say someone scores a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3127">TS</a>]

00:52:09   goal in a game sports ball will be this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3129">TS</a>]

00:52:12   tweet from some supposedly reputable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3132">TS</a>]

00:52:14   organization usually the BBC suddenly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3134">TS</a>]

00:52:17   writing like some tane vlogger and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3137">TS</a>]

00:52:20   will say what I go all capitalized which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3140">TS</a>]

00:52:25   I hate because that's like the internet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3145">TS</a>]

00:52:27   equivalent of shouting and the only a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3147">TS</a>]

00:52:28   full stop after every word 14 stop a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3148">TS</a>]

00:52:33   full stop and go our man that knows me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3153">TS</a>]

00:52:37   it & noise that may apparently there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3157">TS</a>]

00:52:42   there are forums and things dedicated to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3162">TS</a>]

00:52:44   people who hate this but this is this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3164">TS</a>]

00:52:46   really getting me at the moment do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3166">TS</a>]

00:52:47   are you familiar with this it's becoming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3167">TS</a>]

00:52:50   give a me thing to do isn't it to sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3170">TS</a>]

00:52:51   of have these three punctuated words to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3171">TS</a>]

00:52:54   add emphasis this is just people trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3174">TS</a>]

00:52:56   to communicate on the Internet with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3176">TS</a>]

00:52:58   limited bandwidth that you have for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3178">TS</a>]

00:53:00   twitter i have not seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3180">TS</a>]

00:53:02   it's in particular maybe this is a a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3182">TS</a>]

00:53:04   sporting thing that will eventually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3184">TS</a>]

00:53:06   bleed over into my internet as well it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3186">TS</a>]

00:53:09   happens in politics as well a bit i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3189">TS</a>]

00:53:11   think and sports and politics the two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3191">TS</a>]

00:53:13   things i followed so closely so no i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3193">TS</a>]

00:53:15   have not seen these on my twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3195">TS</a>]

00:53:16   timeline when this episode comes out I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3196">TS</a>]

00:53:19   going to tweet brand full stop new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3199">TS</a>]

00:53:21   all-star episode perfect hashtag hello [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3201">TS</a>]

00:53:25   internet right and you know what let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3205">TS</a>]

00:53:28   see if just like click reading headlines [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3208">TS</a>]

00:53:30   are you we get tremendous traffic from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3210">TS</a>]

00:53:32   that we try to get sweet retweet it all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3212">TS</a>]

00:53:34   over the place people go nuts for it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3214">TS</a>]

00:53:36   right because that's that's probably why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3216">TS</a>]

00:53:37   people are doing this that people like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3217">TS</a>]

00:53:39   it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3219">TS</a>]

00:53:39   alright everyone go ahead send me your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3219">TS</a>]

00:53:41   three-word tweets and i'll block you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3221">TS</a>]

00:53:48   tell you what what are we going to keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3228">TS</a>]

00:53:52   classical on here great you gonna let me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3232">TS</a>]

00:53:53   keep going as always I feel like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3233">TS</a>]

00:53:56   first half three-quarters eighty percent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3236">TS</a>]

00:53:58   of the show is always somehow like out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3238">TS</a>]

00:54:00   of my control [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3240">TS</a>]

00:54:01   yeah and then i'll let you drown on for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3241">TS</a>]

00:54:03   20 minutes at the end what I have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3243">TS</a>]

00:54:04   little nap exactly like it one little go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3244">TS</a>]

00:54:06   on is like no Brady just throwing out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3246">TS</a>]

00:54:08   topics are hosted let's do that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3248">TS</a>]

00:54:10   this ok go with this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3250">TS</a>]

00:54:11   maybe we'll cut that mean we won't who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3251">TS</a>]

00:54:13   knows right just go go you stop with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3253">TS</a>]

00:54:15   little one with you're like ooh can I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3255">TS</a>]

00:54:16   try this is like whatever man I with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3256">TS</a>]

00:54:18   this stage you're just gonna go with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3258">TS</a>]

00:54:20   so what do you want to do next in our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3260">TS</a>]

00:54:23   classic episodes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3263">TS</a>]

00:54:25   what do you think is going to happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3265">TS</a>]

00:54:25   next well you know what the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3265">TS</a>]

00:54:27   requested corners of Oh even you must [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3267">TS</a>]

00:54:30   know this plane crash corner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3270">TS</a>]

00:54:33   you said it all right is there a plane [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3273">TS</a>]

00:54:37   crash that you want to talk about i do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3277">TS</a>]

00:54:40   want to talk about a plane crash but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3280">TS</a>]

00:54:41   first of all I want to tell you that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3281">TS</a>]

00:54:43   flew for the first time by the way I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3283">TS</a>]

00:54:46   haven't said but I'm in San Francisco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3286">TS</a>]

00:54:48   Department and you're back in England [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3288">TS</a>]

00:54:50   yeah like it's like we're alternating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3290">TS</a>]

00:54:51   between episodes we essentially past [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3291">TS</a>]

00:54:54   each other like ships in the night one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3294">TS</a>]

00:54:56   going to and one coming from California [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3296">TS</a>]

00:54:58   so yeah we already did we are now in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3298">TS</a>]

00:55:00   opposite positions again recording with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3300">TS</a>]

00:55:04   of course California's fantastic time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3304">TS</a>]

00:55:07   zone shift which makes everything super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3307">TS</a>]

00:55:08   convenient but I flew in the and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3308">TS</a>]

00:55:13   it must have been the first time I fly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3313">TS</a>]

00:55:14   in one in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3314">TS</a>]

00:55:15   the 787 boeing 787 dreamliner oh the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3315">TS</a>]

00:55:21   Tesla of the skies maybe and maybe I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3321">TS</a>]

00:55:25   overstating the case of it there but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3325">TS</a>]

00:55:27   is super high-tech I don't have been on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3327">TS</a>]

00:55:29   one but the thing that blew my mind was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3329">TS</a>]

00:55:31   the windows in this plane [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3331">TS</a>]

00:55:33   are you familiar with the windows in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3333">TS</a>]

00:55:35   Dreamliner I've heard of this plane i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3335">TS</a>]

00:55:37   have never been in one I've never really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3337">TS</a>]

00:55:39   looked it up I'm just pulling up some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3339">TS</a>]

00:55:40   pictures now but what's up with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3340">TS</a>]

00:55:41   windows because from the outside at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3341">TS</a>]

00:55:43   least they look like normal windows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3343">TS</a>]

00:55:45   yeah they're a little bit bigger than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3345">TS</a>]

00:55:46   normal but also they have in them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3346">TS</a>]

00:55:50   this electric gel so there's no shutter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3350">TS</a>]

00:55:53   that you pull up and down is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3353">TS</a>]

00:55:54   buttons underneath and you press buttons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3354">TS</a>]

00:55:57   and it tense the window to different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3357">TS</a>]

00:56:00   levels depending on your setting and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3360">TS</a>]

00:56:02   also it puts this strange Hugh in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3362">TS</a>]

00:56:04   windows so if you're flying in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3364">TS</a>]

00:56:06   middle of the day I happened to fly in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3366">TS</a>]

00:56:08   the middle of the day from England to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3368">TS</a>]

00:56:09   California which can be quite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3369">TS</a>]

00:56:11   disorienting and not that good for your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3371">TS</a>]

00:56:14   body but it cast this like a bluish hue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3374">TS</a>]

00:56:17   across the windows for most of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3377">TS</a>]

00:56:19   flight so kind of like night outside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3379">TS</a>]

00:56:21   like the Sun that like the moon and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3381">TS</a>]

00:56:24   the landscape had this blue he look to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3384">TS</a>]

00:56:26   it like it was nighttime and I felt like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3386">TS</a>]

00:56:27   it was night it was amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3387">TS</a>]

00:56:30   so you could still look out the window [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3390">TS</a>]

00:56:31   and see like the terrain below but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3391">TS</a>]

00:56:33   felt like you were looking over the us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3393">TS</a>]

00:56:35   at night and then if you went and found [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3395">TS</a>]

00:56:37   a window that didn't have this on it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3397">TS</a>]

00:56:39   like broad daylight so it was really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3399">TS</a>]

00:56:41   cool it was a really nice gimmick we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3401">TS</a>]

00:56:43   could individual people turn on and off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3403">TS</a>]

00:56:46   the blue fact is that something that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3406">TS</a>]

00:56:47   under your control as the window-seat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3407">TS</a>]

00:56:49   person i'm not entirely sure but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3409">TS</a>]

00:56:52   impression I had was you could control [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3412">TS</a>]

00:56:54   yourself at certain times and at other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3414">TS</a>]

00:56:56   times I think they took control of it so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3416">TS</a>]

00:56:59   that you couldn't have one idiot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3419">TS</a>]

00:57:00   streaming the cabin with bright light [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3420">TS</a>]

00:57:03   while everyone else was trying to sleep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3423">TS</a>]

00:57:04   on my flight to America I was the 180 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3424">TS</a>]

00:57:06   where the window over didn't realize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3426">TS</a>]

00:57:10   that the flight attendant came over and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3430">TS</a>]

00:57:11   gave me a hard starting to look like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3431">TS</a>]

00:57:14   sir everybody else in this cabin is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3434">TS</a>]

00:57:15   asleep watching closure window goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3435">TS</a>]

00:57:17   sorry I'm trying to work anyway that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3437">TS</a>]

00:57:19   not my plane crash thank goodness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3439">TS</a>]

00:57:21   because i was on that line right right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3441">TS</a>]

00:57:22   about us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3442">TS</a>]

00:57:23   let me give you a plane crash corner and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3443">TS</a>]

00:57:25   this is something that made the news a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3445">TS</a>]

00:57:27   little while ago now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3447">TS</a>]

00:57:28   and I didn't bring it up because we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3448">TS</a>]

00:57:31   haven't done a podcast was so long and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3451">TS</a>]

00:57:32   we talked about lots of other stuff but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3452">TS</a>]

00:57:34   this caught my attention because also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3454">TS</a>]

00:57:36   has told me something about myself which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3456">TS</a>]

00:57:38   I want to ask you about the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3458">TS</a>]

00:57:39   first of all let me tell you the story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3459">TS</a>]

00:57:40   you like this because it's got an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3460">TS</a>]

00:57:43   obscure pompous name i want to tell you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3463">TS</a>]

00:57:45   about operation an upper part of our I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3465">TS</a>]

00:57:50   sure my pronunciation is incorrect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3470">TS</a>]

00:57:51   because this is an Incan God of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3471">TS</a>]

00:57:53   knowledge and basically to start from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3473">TS</a>]

00:57:56   the beginning there was a flight on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3476">TS</a>]

00:57:58   january the first in 1985 Eastern flight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3478">TS</a>]

00:58:02   980 and this was a flight that was going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3482">TS</a>]

00:58:05   from Paraguay to miami and i was going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3485">TS</a>]

00:58:07   to stop in a couple of other places on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3487">TS</a>]

00:58:09   the way this is in 1985 1985 okay I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3489">TS</a>]

00:58:12   trust me trust me gray okay we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3492">TS</a>]

00:58:14   getting there are going there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3494">TS</a>]

00:58:15   alright take my stick with me through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3495">TS</a>]

00:58:17   this journey there hold my hair it will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3497">TS</a>]

00:58:19   all make sense at the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3499">TS</a>]

00:58:20   ok this plane with 29 people on it i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3500">TS</a>]

00:58:25   think it was 19 passengers and 10 crew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3505">TS</a>]

00:58:27   which is quite high ratio of crude [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3507">TS</a>]

00:58:29   passengers actually suffered what is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3509">TS</a>]

00:58:31   called a safe it crash [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3511">TS</a>]

00:58:33   this is a controlled flight into terrain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3513">TS</a>]

00:58:35   which i think is a lovely way of saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3515">TS</a>]

00:58:38   it flew into a mountain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3518">TS</a>]

00:58:40   ok and it flew into this mountain called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3520">TS</a>]

00:58:44   Mount allamani in Bolivia and it hit the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3524">TS</a>]

00:58:47   mountain at a height of about 6,000 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3527">TS</a>]

00:58:49   meters and I think to this day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3529">TS</a>]

00:58:51   that's the highest ever see if it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3531">TS</a>]

00:58:52   crashed has been ok the highest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3532">TS</a>]

00:58:54   appliance ever been when it flew into a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3534">TS</a>]

00:58:55   mountain everyone died so this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3535">TS</a>]

00:59:01   obviously quite hard spot to get to but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3541">TS</a>]

00:59:02   they did send investigators and a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3542">TS</a>]

00:59:04   piece of side trivia here that the lead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3544">TS</a>]

00:59:06   investigator they sent was a guy called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3546">TS</a>]

00:59:08   Greg Feith or five and anyone who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3548">TS</a>]

00:59:12   watches air crash investigation my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3552">TS</a>]

00:59:13   favorite TV show will know this guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3553">TS</a>]

00:59:15   because this is like the talking head [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3555">TS</a>]

00:59:17   that they bring in to talk about every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3557">TS</a>]

00:59:19   plane crashes like the dialer quote sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3559">TS</a>]

00:59:21   of guy who is quite a well-known crash [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3561">TS</a>]

00:59:23   investigators that he was cold in they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3563">TS</a>]

00:59:25   went up the mountain is covered in snow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3565">TS</a>]

00:59:27   the debris was all over the place it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3567">TS</a>]

00:59:30   like a huge crash site [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3570">TS</a>]

00:59:32   everything was smashed to smithereens AC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3572">TS</a>]

00:59:34   they couldn't find anything particularly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3574">TS</a>]

00:59:36   useful and they left 1985 they didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3576">TS</a>]

00:59:40   find the flight recorders [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3580">TS</a>]

00:59:41   right okay why at this mountain in 2006 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3581">TS</a>]

00:59:46   some of the wreckage started revealing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3586">TS</a>]

00:59:49   itself because snow was melting in those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3589">TS</a>]

00:59:51   glasses and rocks and stuff moving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3591">TS</a>]

00:59:52   around some of the wreckage started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3592">TS</a>]

00:59:54   revealing itself again now what happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3594">TS</a>]

00:59:57   was there were these two guys cool down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3597">TS</a>]

00:59:59   and eyes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3599">TS</a>]

00:59:59   and eyes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3599">TS</a>]

01:00:00   that I think they're from what Boston or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3600">TS</a>]

01:00:01   messages somewhere and they read about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3601">TS</a>]

01:00:05   this and they sound like my kind of guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3605">TS</a>]

01:00:07   because they're interested in plane [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3607">TS</a>]

01:00:10   crashes and they're interested in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3610">TS</a>]

01:00:11   mountains and they saw that the flight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3611">TS</a>]

01:00:14   recorders had never been found and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3614">TS</a>]

01:00:17   looked at other crashes where flight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3617">TS</a>]

01:00:18   recorders haven't been found in this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3618">TS</a>]

01:00:20   quite a few of them most of them a deep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3620">TS</a>]

01:00:22   underwater but this one obviously isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3622">TS</a>]

01:00:24   this one's on land so this year just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3624">TS</a>]

01:00:27   recently they decided to go on like an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3627">TS</a>]

01:00:30   adventure holiday to this mountain to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3630">TS</a>]

01:00:33   try and find the crash site and try and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3633">TS</a>]

01:00:36   find the flight recorders from this 1985 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3636">TS</a>]

01:00:39   crash I can't believe you haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3639">TS</a>]

01:00:42   combined your interests of mountains and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3642">TS</a>]

01:00:45   plane crashing to do this exact same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3645">TS</a>]

01:00:47   adventure but that's what I'm talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3647">TS</a>]

01:00:49   about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3649">TS</a>]

01:00:50   I'm I I can't believe I didn't think of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3650">TS</a>]

01:00:52   it so i said these dudes are legends so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3652">TS</a>]

01:00:56   they've gone to this mountain in bolivia [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3656">TS</a>]

01:00:59   in a place that sounds like it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3659">TS</a>]

01:01:01   without challenges various sorts and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3661">TS</a>]

01:01:04   I've got a few people to help them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3664">TS</a>]

01:01:06   they've gone up this mountain they found [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3666">TS</a>]

01:01:09   this crash site and they're all the rock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3669">TS</a>]

01:01:11   and the crevices and everything and have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3671">TS</a>]

01:01:12   started finding bits of metal and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3672">TS</a>]

01:01:14   think i spent three or four days there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3674">TS</a>]

01:01:15   and on the final day they've turned over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3675">TS</a>]

01:01:18   a piece of metal which turns out to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3678">TS</a>]

01:01:21   orange on the other side which is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3681">TS</a>]

01:01:22   color of black boxes and lonely enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3682">TS</a>]

01:01:24   as everyone knows black boxes are range [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3684">TS</a>]

01:01:26   of course and it's got this cable offers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3686">TS</a>]

01:01:29   saying cvr cockpit voice recorder and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3689">TS</a>]

01:01:32   they find part of the flight recorder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3692">TS</a>]

01:01:34   and I find some magnetic tape as well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3694">TS</a>]

01:01:36   which is probably what was in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3696">TS</a>]

01:01:37   recorder and some other bits and pieces [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3697">TS</a>]

01:01:39   and I doubt they're going to get much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3699">TS</a>]

01:01:41   from it because I happen in 95 but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3701">TS</a>]

01:01:43   they've brought this stuff back in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3703">TS</a>]

01:01:45   hope of maybe finding out more about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3705">TS</a>]

01:01:47   what happened to this crash but i just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3707">TS</a>]

01:01:49   think it's amazing that these two dudes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3709">TS</a>]

01:01:51   who are like just dudes have said and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3711">TS</a>]

01:01:54   let's go to wear that crash up enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3714">TS</a>]

01:01:55   that mountain in Bolivia and see if we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3715">TS</a>]

01:01:57   can find the flight recorder that all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3717">TS</a>]

01:01:58   the investigators didn't find and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3718">TS</a>]

01:02:00   go there and they find out that is great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3720">TS</a>]

01:02:05   i love it when people just do a thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3725">TS</a>]

01:02:07   it's not say the intersection of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3727">TS</a>]

01:02:10   interests it's amazing to me that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3730">TS</a>]

01:02:11   you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3731">TS</a>]

01:02:12   not considered doing this before but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3732">TS</a>]

01:02:15   think there is a market in going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3735">TS</a>]

01:02:19   famous plane crash sites i mean there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3739">TS</a>]

01:02:22   i know for I know for effective one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3742">TS</a>]

01:02:24   famous plane crash I also in South [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3744">TS</a>]

01:02:25   America that people do too is to this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3745">TS</a>]

01:02:28   the one where the plane crash happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3748">TS</a>]

01:02:29   from the film alive whether people spent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3749">TS</a>]

01:02:32   months and months with their wreckage in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3752">TS</a>]

01:02:34   the mountains and they ended up eating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3754">TS</a>]

01:02:36   the dead bodies of people who died in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3756">TS</a>]

01:02:37   the crash to stay alive and then I got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3757">TS</a>]

01:02:39   rescued as you always time later you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3759">TS</a>]

01:02:41   familiar with the scratcher yeah I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3761">TS</a>]

01:02:42   I saw the movie alive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3762">TS</a>]

01:02:44   yeah as I really famous and people do go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3764">TS</a>]

01:02:46   on tourist trips to the site where that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3766">TS</a>]

01:02:48   happened but really they don't yeah you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3768">TS</a>]

01:02:52   can I was that was looking at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3772">TS</a>]

01:02:54   internet looking at the prices are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3774">TS</a>]

01:02:56   ready because it because it's in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3776">TS</a>]

01:02:59   mountains as well you know i love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3779">TS</a>]

01:03:00   mountains so it's you know it's got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3780">TS</a>]

01:03:02   everything got mountains it's got drama [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3782">TS</a>]

01:03:05   and it has everything I think the dream [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3785">TS</a>]

01:03:08   want to go to for me if they mount [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3788">TS</a>]

01:03:10   erebus in Antarctica where a plane [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3790">TS</a>]

01:03:14   famously crashed because they're you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3794">TS</a>]

01:03:16   going up a mountain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3796">TS</a>]

01:03:17   you've got a plane crash site and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3797">TS</a>]

01:03:20   Antarctica i don't know i don't even go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3800">TS</a>]

01:03:22   there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3802">TS</a>]

01:03:23   so what's gonna happen here Brady I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3803">TS</a>]

01:03:24   I are you are you trying to tell me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3804">TS</a>]

01:03:25   slowly and gently that you're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3805">TS</a>]

01:03:27   incorporate a mountaineering stroke [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3807">TS</a>]

01:03:30   plane crash cornering tourists [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3810">TS</a>]

01:03:33   businesslike is to have put your next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3813">TS</a>]

01:03:34   venture is going to be that started it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3814">TS</a>]

01:03:37   sounds like that's what you're working [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3817">TS</a>]

01:03:38   toward like I'm not working towards it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3818">TS</a>]

01:03:41   the thing I wanted to bring up the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3821">TS</a>]

01:03:43   reason i found this interesting was when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3823">TS</a>]

01:03:45   i first heard about this I had a bit of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3825">TS</a>]

01:03:48   a reluctance to read about it because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3828">TS</a>]

01:03:50   they had a blog and stuff like that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3830">TS</a>]

01:03:51   i think that with the journalist so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3831">TS</a>]

01:03:53   there's obviously more stuff to come but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3833">TS</a>]

01:03:54   I was initially a little bit reluctant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3834">TS</a>]

01:03:56   to read about it and this is a feeling i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3836">TS</a>]

01:03:59   often have that I want to see if it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3839">TS</a>]

01:04:01   just may with other people have this but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3841">TS</a>]

01:04:03   I sometimes don't enjoy reading or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3843">TS</a>]

01:04:07   watching about other people's cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3847">TS</a>]

01:04:09   adventures because i think well that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3849">TS</a>]

01:04:12   their cool adventure and I'm not having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3852">TS</a>]

01:04:14   that so why do I want to watch them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3854">TS</a>]

01:04:17   doing something awesome i want to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3857">TS</a>]

01:04:19   something awesome and my wife doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3859">TS</a>]

01:04:21   understand this like quite often she now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3861">TS</a>]

01:04:23   understands that because it's what I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3863">TS</a>]

01:04:25   like but freaks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3865">TS</a>]

01:04:25   apple if there's a documentary like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3865">TS</a>]

01:04:27   Michael Palin goes and does a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3867">TS</a>]

01:04:30   travel show through the Himalayas she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3870">TS</a>]

01:04:32   like let's watch that would be so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3872">TS</a>]

01:04:34   inspirational and you'll see so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3874">TS</a>]

01:04:35   amazing stuff and and I'm like I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3875">TS</a>]

01:04:37   want to go and watch Michael Palin have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3877">TS</a>]

01:04:39   a cool adventure in the Himalayas not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3879">TS</a>]

01:04:41   good for him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3881">TS</a>]

01:04:42   I'm you know that's that's him having an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3882">TS</a>]

01:04:44   awesome time that's not me having an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3884">TS</a>]

01:04:46   awesome time so I really very often [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3886">TS</a>]

01:04:49   don't like watching travel shows because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3889">TS</a>]

01:04:51   i feel like i just want to watch someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3891">TS</a>]

01:04:54   else doing something cool i'd rather [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3894">TS</a>]

01:04:56   spend my time doing something called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3896">TS</a>]

01:04:57   myself is that weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3897">TS</a>]

01:05:00   I i'm not going to say it's weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3900">TS</a>]

01:05:03   because I'm talking to you like I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3903">TS</a>]

01:05:07   I can understand why you wouldn't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3907">TS</a>]

01:05:10   to do that but I i can say that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3910">TS</a>]

01:05:14   abnormal there's no way that it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3914">TS</a>]

01:05:18   abnormal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3918">TS</a>]

01:05:19   yeah i guess because those television is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3919">TS</a>]

01:05:21   so popular so obviously lots of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3921">TS</a>]

01:05:22   right because the exactly most people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3922">TS</a>]

01:05:24   want to watch those kinds of things they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3924">TS</a>]

01:05:25   want to sit in the comfort of their own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3925">TS</a>]

01:05:27   home and watch somebody else have an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3927">TS</a>]

01:05:29   adventure isn't that exciting to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3929">TS</a>]

01:05:31   somebody else do this thing is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3931">TS</a>]

01:05:32   entertaining to see somebody else go on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3932">TS</a>]

01:05:34   an adventure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3934">TS</a>]

01:05:34   I definitely not unless it's something i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3934">TS</a>]

01:05:36   can't do you like go to the moon right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3936">TS</a>]

01:05:38   but that is not my attitude so when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3938">TS</a>]

01:05:40   first heard about this operation thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3940">TS</a>]

01:05:42   up with dan and I zeg my first instinct [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3942">TS</a>]

01:05:45   was what I don't want to see that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3945">TS</a>]

01:05:46   because they just having the coolest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3946">TS</a>]

01:05:47   adventure and I could have done that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3947">TS</a>]

01:05:49   now i'm going to be thinking why i doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3949">TS</a>]

01:05:51   that but this was just too cool that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3951">TS</a>]

01:05:54   had to look and these guys are clearly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3954">TS</a>]

01:05:55   legends for doing this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3955">TS</a>]

01:05:57   so that's a cool story they've got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3957">TS</a>]

01:05:59   blog and read about it i've done a cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3959">TS</a>]

01:06:01   thing playing Crash mountains living the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3961">TS</a>]

01:06:04   dream [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3964">TS</a>]

01:06:04   if you did a TV adventure like some TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3964">TS</a>]

01:06:08   station contact you and i we're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3968">TS</a>]

01:06:11   hook you up with a traveling the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3971">TS</a>]

01:06:13   amazing adventure thing we're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3973">TS</a>]

01:06:14   film and we're going to make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3974">TS</a>]

01:06:15   documentary about it right after it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3975">TS</a>]

01:06:18   done and over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3978">TS</a>]

01:06:19   would you want to watch your own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3979">TS</a>]

01:06:22   adventure on TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3982">TS</a>]

01:06:23   yeah okay watching that because that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3983">TS</a>]

01:06:25   like my holiday photos okay yeah okay so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3985">TS</a>]

01:06:30   that's what it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3990">TS</a>]

01:06:31   so you wouldn't feel like I don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3991">TS</a>]

01:06:33   to watch me having an adventure i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3993">TS</a>]

01:06:34   already had that adventure I want to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3994">TS</a>]

01:06:36   on the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3996">TS</a>]

01:06:37   I don't know that's not that i did a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3997">TS</a>]

01:06:38   video when i went to every space camp [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/3998">TS</a>]

01:06:40   where a boiled water all these different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4000">TS</a>]

01:06:41   attitudes a video of yours I love by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4001">TS</a>]

01:06:44   way I'm gonna put that in the show notes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4004">TS</a>]

01:06:45   I I think there's something fantastic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4005">TS</a>]

01:06:48   and beautiful about that video it's one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4008">TS</a>]

01:06:51   of my favorite things that you've ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4011">TS</a>]

01:06:52   done is that video thank you that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4012">TS</a>]

01:06:54   really kind and and I don't watch my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4014">TS</a>]

01:06:56   videos back very often but there is one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4016">TS</a>]

01:06:58   of my videos that maybe once every six [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4018">TS</a>]

01:07:00   months or I will watch again and enjoy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4020">TS</a>]

01:07:03   it just as as watching it but i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4023">TS</a>]

01:07:06   think i would enjoy watching someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4026">TS</a>]

01:07:07   else do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4027">TS</a>]

01:07:08   well maybe maybe i would enjoy someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4028">TS</a>]

01:07:10   else doing that because I've been there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4030">TS</a>]

01:07:11   but I find it hard to watch other people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4031">TS</a>]

01:07:14   having really amazing adventures I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4034">TS</a>]

01:07:16   happy for them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4036">TS</a>]

01:07:17   I don't not want them to have a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4037">TS</a>]

01:07:19   time and have those adventures I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4039">TS</a>]

01:07:20   it's brilliant but it's just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4040">TS</a>]

01:07:22   watching it just frustrates me I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4042">TS</a>]

01:07:24   our that's something I should be doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4044">TS</a>]

01:07:26   that looks awesome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4046">TS</a>]

01:07:27   so for clarity's sake it's not any kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4047">TS</a>]

01:07:29   of envy for you you don't envy them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4049">TS</a>]

01:07:32   their experience you just feel like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4052">TS</a>]

01:07:35   should be having the adventure I think I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4055">TS</a>]

01:07:36   kind of do in Viet em but I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4056">TS</a>]

01:07:38   begrudge them at like I don't like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4058">TS</a>]

01:07:40   but I'm not upset that they're having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4060">TS</a>]

01:07:42   i'm happy that they're having it but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4062">TS</a>]

01:07:44   guess it only applies to things i could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4064">TS</a>]

01:07:45   conceivably do like for example I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4065">TS</a>]

01:07:48   mind watching Andy Mary win Wimbledon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4068">TS</a>]

01:07:50   lift the trophy I'm not thinking damn my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4070">TS</a>]

01:07:52   darling remember what happened like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4072">TS</a>]

01:07:54   because I get that I can't win bored so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4074">TS</a>]

01:07:56   i watch that right there i was there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4076">TS</a>]

01:07:57   trying to close in on like what are the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4077">TS</a>]

01:07:59   edges of this thing and it's a fiction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4079">TS</a>]

01:08:02   doesn't seem to be like you're fine with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4082">TS</a>]

01:08:03   watching fiction because it's not real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4083">TS</a>]

01:08:05   and you don't you like I should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4085">TS</a>]

01:08:07   saving middle-earth I think that you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4087">TS</a>]

01:08:09   do about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4089">TS</a>]

01:08:10   Nona I don't know exactly what it means [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4090">TS</a>]

01:08:13   that's why bring it up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4093">TS</a>]

01:08:13   I don't completely understand well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4093">TS</a>]

01:08:15   obviously it means that you must be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4095">TS</a>]

01:08:16   having adventures all the time if this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4096">TS</a>]

01:08:18   is the way you feel about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4098">TS</a>]

01:08:19   of course yeah i mean i should i'd love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4099">TS</a>]

01:08:21   to have obviously i'm not most of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4101">TS</a>]

01:08:24   time i'm sitting around editing videos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4104">TS</a>]

01:08:26   and donuts but I find that not an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4106">TS</a>]

01:08:31   enjoyable use of my time watching other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4111">TS</a>]

01:08:33   people have not holidays the holidays [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4113">TS</a>]

01:08:38   for her because I wouldn't enjoy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4118">TS</a>]

01:08:40   watching other people have nice probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4120">TS</a>]

01:08:43   is either that sounds like terribly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4123">TS</a>]

01:08:45   boring television [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4125">TS</a>]

01:08:46   and also it's like a totally different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4126">TS</a>]

01:08:48   kind of thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4128">TS</a>]

01:08:50   yeah whereas i'll happily watch somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4130">TS</a>]

01:08:53   have an adventure i'll happily watch all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4133">TS</a>]

01:08:56   of that's survival shows where people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4136">TS</a>]

01:08:58   slowly starved to death over the space [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4138">TS</a>]

01:09:00   of a month like great i'll turn that on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4140">TS</a>]

01:09:03   for entertainment any day of the week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4143">TS</a>]

01:09:04   but someone having a holiday know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4144">TS</a>]

01:09:05   sounds terribly boring I mean I love a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4145">TS</a>]

01:09:07   good documentary about someone like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4147">TS</a>]

01:09:08   climbing a mountain like proper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4148">TS</a>]

01:09:10   mountaineering like you know something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4150">TS</a>]

01:09:12   happening on k2 and stuff like that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4152">TS</a>]

01:09:14   how is that different than watching a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4154">TS</a>]

01:09:15   documentary because i can't do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4155">TS</a>]

01:09:17   ok so i can't do that you can climb k2 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4157">TS</a>]

01:09:19   differently not okay i don't have ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4159">TS</a>]

01:09:24   said before but the summit on netflix [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4164">TS</a>]

01:09:27   about people climbing k2 is the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4167">TS</a>]

01:09:29   mountain documentary I've ever watched [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4169">TS</a>]

01:09:31   you should watch that gray it's the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4171">TS</a>]

01:09:33   one if I could only watch one as you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4173">TS</a>]

01:09:35   watch that one if you only watch one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4175">TS</a>]

01:09:36   mountain thing ever watch the summit is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4176">TS</a>]

01:09:39   on netflix make it really good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4179">TS</a>]

01:09:41   watch it man what you you watch it will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4181">TS</a>]

01:09:43   talk about okay all right note made I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4183">TS</a>]

01:09:45   watched it three or four times but i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4185">TS</a>]

01:09:48   not watching Michael Palin drinking tea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4188">TS</a>]

01:09:50   and having a nice time with people as he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4190">TS</a>]

01:09:52   walks through the Himalayas one other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4192">TS</a>]

01:09:55   thing if there was like we have to do in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4195">TS</a>]

01:09:57   a classic classic episode huh is well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4197">TS</a>]

01:10:01   you call the bi-weekly way in about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4201">TS</a>]

01:10:05   heads [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4205">TS</a>]

01:10:06   this is what you wanted to do it's more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4206">TS</a>]

01:10:09   of a health plan i don't want to do this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4209">TS</a>]

01:10:11   but that's how a classic episode if we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4211">TS</a>]

01:10:13   do if we don't do that healthgrades [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4213">TS</a>]

01:10:15   health corner where he smugly tells me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4215">TS</a>]

01:10:17   how awesome he is now how i'm still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4217">TS</a>]

01:10:18   super unfit is that how this works is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4218">TS</a>]

01:10:21   that others ever worked with that your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4221">TS</a>]

01:10:24   personal resentment or maybe it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4224">TS</a>]

01:10:28   watching a documentary I don't know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4228">TS</a>]

01:10:29   your documentary about how great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4229">TS</a>]

01:10:30   becoming really healthy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4230">TS</a>]

01:10:32   okay i love this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4232">TS</a>]

01:10:36   you don't want to do it the trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4236">TS</a>]

01:10:38   make me look bad which is still gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4238">TS</a>]

01:10:40   bring it up as a corner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4240">TS</a>]

01:10:42   ok so sure sure what do you want to talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4242">TS</a>]

01:10:44   about in the hello Internet semi-random [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4244">TS</a>]

01:10:47   sometimes we talk about health of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4247">TS</a>]

01:10:49   Brady's in the mood or we're doing a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4249">TS</a>]

01:10:50   classic episode corner but say the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4250">TS</a>]

01:10:55   i'm wondering i guess is you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4255">TS</a>]

01:10:56   reach to target white and everything was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4256">TS</a>]

01:10:58   good and you did a great job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4258">TS</a>]

01:11:00   haha like what have you done since have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4260">TS</a>]

01:11:02   you like kept like the same regime or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4262">TS</a>]

01:11:05   was your age I am able to now change to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4265">TS</a>]

01:11:06   keep a steady weight or did you wait go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4266">TS</a>]

01:11:08   up like since you can't have hit your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4268">TS</a>]

01:11:10   target and everything was good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4270">TS</a>]

01:11:13   what's been your course of action sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4273">TS</a>]

01:11:15   i mean it's interesting because I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4275">TS</a>]

01:11:17   came back from spending a month in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4277">TS</a>]

01:11:19   America ok [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4279">TS</a>]

01:11:21   flatland overhead yeah that'd land us a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4281">TS</a>]

01:11:24   population large right just so difficult [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4284">TS</a>]

01:11:27   here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4287">TS</a>]

01:11:28   it simply never liked everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4288">TS</a>]

01:11:30   everything in America is incredibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4290">TS</a>]

01:11:33   delicious and and so good and all i can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4293">TS</a>]

01:11:36   say is when I go to America thing i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4296">TS</a>]

01:11:38   always think of now is thank God at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4298">TS</a>]

01:11:39   least i'm not in the south which is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4299">TS</a>]

01:11:42   America's America or anywhere for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4302">TS</a>]

01:11:44   everything is just amplified again with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4304">TS</a>]

01:11:47   deliciousness that was like ok at least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4307">TS</a>]

01:11:49   i'm just in California and only have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4309">TS</a>]

01:11:52   deal with that level of how good all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4312">TS</a>]

01:11:54   the food is before you tell me about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4314">TS</a>]

01:11:56   what's happened since she came back from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4316">TS</a>]

01:11:57   America [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4317">TS</a>]

01:11:58   I mean I have in California and I'm in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4318">TS</a>]

01:11:59   Berkeley which is like you know trendy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4319">TS</a>]

01:12:01   healthy place to do but even here it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4321">TS</a>]

01:12:03   difficult I was in safeway last night [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4323">TS</a>]

01:12:05   and I just fancied some cookies so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4325">TS</a>]

01:12:08   went to the cookies section and I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4328">TS</a>]

01:12:10   wanted a few cookies and I went to build [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4330">TS</a>]

01:12:12   this huge table where they said all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4332">TS</a>]

01:12:14   cookies i could not find a box of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4334">TS</a>]

01:12:17   cookies that they were selling that had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4337">TS</a>]

01:12:19   less than 30 cookies in a baby it wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4339">TS</a>]

01:12:22   an option [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4342">TS</a>]

01:12:23   I just like I just want to buy like two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4343">TS</a>]

01:12:24   or three of those cookies but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4344">TS</a>]

01:12:26   couldn't you could only buy these huge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4346">TS</a>]

01:12:28   huge clear boxes full of cookies and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4348">TS</a>]

01:12:31   then i went there is this pizza place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4351">TS</a>]

01:12:33   right near where I'm staying called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4353">TS</a>]

01:12:35   cheese board which is really famous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4355">TS</a>]

01:12:36   that's really nice pizza and I went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4356">TS</a>]

01:12:39   there the other night and I was lining [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4359">TS</a>]

01:12:41   up in the queue because it's always a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4361">TS</a>]

01:12:43   huge queue for the pizza but it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4363">TS</a>]

01:12:44   nearly closing time and when I got to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4364">TS</a>]

01:12:46   order my pizza i did the discipline [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4366">TS</a>]

01:12:49   thing and i ordered only half a pizza [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4369">TS</a>]

01:12:51   because they always throw you a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4371">TS</a>]

01:12:53   extra pieces beyond what you order [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4373">TS</a>]

01:12:55   anyway it's like a tradition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4375">TS</a>]

01:12:57   ok that's interesting that they always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4377">TS</a>]

01:13:00   do it so i knew i was gonna get half a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4380">TS</a>]

01:13:01   pizza plus two or three slices so I said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4381">TS</a>]

01:13:04   can I have half a pizza place and cause [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4384">TS</a>]

01:13:06   it was near closing time and they still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4386">TS</a>]

01:13:07   had lots of pieces because they only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4387">TS</a>]

01:13:09   make one flavor pates and they just turn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4389">TS</a>]

01:13:11   them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4391">TS</a>]

01:13:11   and that's just what you have to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4391">TS</a>]

01:13:12   that day so when I want a half a page so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4392">TS</a>]

01:13:15   they said no problems gave me a whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4395">TS</a>]

01:13:18   pizza in the Box gave it to me and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4398">TS</a>]

01:13:21   just as I was about to walk away he went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4401">TS</a>]

01:13:22   to me and said I by the way and he gave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4402">TS</a>]

01:13:24   me a second whole piece here's another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4404">TS</a>]

01:13:26   one what I tried to do the right thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4406">TS</a>]

01:13:28   and other half a pizza and I walked away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4408">TS</a>]

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01:14:27   experience in California and feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4467">TS</a>]

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01:14:30   and a smile but I i did have this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4470">TS</a>]

01:14:33   feeling that I always going to be way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4473">TS</a>]

01:14:34   easier in California at least need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4474">TS</a>]

01:14:36   eat healthier because they're a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4476">TS</a>]

01:14:38   hippies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4478">TS</a>]

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01:14:40   hard and even the healthy stuff comes an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4480">TS</a>]

01:14:42   enormous portions and when you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4482">TS</a>]

01:14:45   surrounded by everything else like it do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4485">TS</a>]

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01:15:02   had been changing some of my morning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4502">TS</a>]

01:15:04   routine with like print and getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4504">TS</a>]

01:15:06   coffee in the mornings and doing a bunch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4506">TS</a>]

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01:15:20   mentally prepared for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4520">TS</a>]

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01:15:28   breakfast things will be just absolutely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4528">TS</a>]

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01:15:33   months i have slowly learned that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4533">TS</a>]

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01:15:38   psychologically prepared for that fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4538">TS</a>]

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01:15:47   eat later we're going to eat at lunch so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4547">TS</a>]

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01:15:59   was that i was going to intentionally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4559">TS</a>]

01:16:02   skip breakfast in the morning for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4562">TS</a>]

01:16:06   entire time that I was there because i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4566">TS</a>]

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01:16:11   some kind of damage minimization process [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4571">TS</a>]

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01:16:18   breakfast and America is a land that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4578">TS</a>]

01:16:20   does breakfast really well and so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4580">TS</a>]

01:16:23   thought I'm just going to take this out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4583">TS</a>]

01:16:24   as an option to try to reduce calorie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4584">TS</a>]

01:16:28   intake and much to my surprise even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4588">TS</a>]

01:16:32   though I wasn't super great about eating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4592">TS</a>]

01:16:34   stuff in America especially during [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4594">TS</a>]

01:16:35   conference time when you keep meeting up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4595">TS</a>]

01:16:37   with people like everywhere you go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4597">TS</a>]

01:16:39   you're meeting someone for a meal and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4599">TS</a>]

01:16:40   you're eating something or I just fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4600">TS</a>]

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01:16:47   want to eat something to kind of pick up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4607">TS</a>]

01:16:48   my energy I was kind of crap with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4608">TS</a>]

01:16:50   food but I think skipping breakfast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4610">TS</a>]

01:16:52   really worked because miracle of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4612">TS</a>]

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01:16:56   single pound heavier after on earth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4616">TS</a>]

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01:17:34   the occasional bi-weekly way and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4654">TS</a>]

01:17:37   actually talking about health corner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4657">TS</a>]

01:17:38   which I have let go because as someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4658">TS</a>]

01:17:41   once told me if you love a biweekly way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4661">TS</a>]

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01:17:44   comes back then it was meant to be so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4664">TS</a>]

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01:17:50   consistently and frustratingly failed is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4670">TS</a>]

01:17:54   with the running like I have still not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4674">TS</a>]

01:17:58   been able to run a complete 5k without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4678">TS</a>]

01:18:02   doing a significant portion of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4682">TS</a>]

01:18:05   actually walking and it's weird because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4685">TS</a>]

01:18:08   I haven't given up the running i just i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4688">TS</a>]

01:18:11   i find that I've gone for stretches of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4691">TS</a>]

01:18:14   not doing it and so then I'm not in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4694">TS</a>]

01:18:16   shape to do it and I kind of have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4696">TS</a>]

01:18:17   start over with the program and so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4697">TS</a>]

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01:18:21   fallen down on it so like just throwing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4701">TS</a>]

01:18:25   it out there but you know we could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4705">TS</a>]

01:18:26   always do something with the running [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4706">TS</a>]

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01:18:33   be much better at the running that I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4713">TS</a>]

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01:18:39   the bay to the most from where I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4719">TS</a>]

01:18:41   staying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4721">TS</a>]

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01:18:46   being further than I expected and took [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4726">TS</a>]

01:18:48   me longer than i expected to get there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4728">TS</a>]

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01:22:23   have to do we have the top of rabbits [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4943">TS</a>]

01:22:26   I think we kind of do I kind of don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4946">TS</a>]

01:22:29   want to either but i think they kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4949">TS</a>]

01:22:30   have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4950">TS</a>]

01:22:31   there's been so much happening in like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4951">TS</a>]

01:22:34   in the world of like elections and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4954">TS</a>]

01:22:35   politics and stuff em but the big one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4955">TS</a>]

01:22:38   and i'm getting asked about all the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4958">TS</a>]

01:22:40   since arriving in America m is the UK [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4960">TS</a>]

01:22:43   brexit vote the referendum about whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4963">TS</a>]

01:22:46   or not the UK was going to stay in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4966">TS</a>]

01:22:49   european union or leave the European [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4969">TS</a>]

01:22:50   Union you out of the country for this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4970">TS</a>]

01:22:52   won't you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4972">TS</a>]

01:22:53   yeah i was out of the country i was at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4973">TS</a>]

01:22:57   VidCon when the the vote actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4977">TS</a>]

01:22:59   happens or when the results came in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4979">TS</a>]

01:23:01   again because the confusing timeline it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4981">TS</a>]

01:23:03   was late in LA and suddenly I started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4983">TS</a>]

01:23:06   getting messages from people and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4986">TS</a>]

01:23:07   realizing like all right everybody is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4987">TS</a>]

01:23:09   waking up in the UK right now two votes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4989">TS</a>]

01:23:11   having been counted so that's where I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4991">TS</a>]

01:23:13   was when it occurred and if you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4993">TS</a>]

01:23:16   listening on the planet Mars and don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4996">TS</a>]

01:23:17   realize the UK voted i think it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/4997">TS</a>]

01:23:21   52-percent voted to leave the European [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5001">TS</a>]

01:23:24   Union yeah was 52-48 to leave the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5004">TS</a>]

01:23:27   European Union quite a high turnout was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5007">TS</a>]

01:23:30   in the seventies I think percentage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5010">TS</a>]

01:23:32   turnout so quite strong turnout [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5012">TS</a>]

01:23:34   yes awesome comparisons it's like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5014">TS</a>]

01:23:36   highest voter turnout in decades for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5016">TS</a>]

01:23:38   anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5018">TS</a>]

01:23:38   not only is just like the the number of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5018">TS</a>]

01:23:40   voters high but it's that the percentage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5020">TS</a>]

01:23:42   of the possible electorate was also an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5022">TS</a>]

01:23:45   unusually high for the election so tons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5025">TS</a>]

01:23:47   of people turned out so that you go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5027">TS</a>]

01:23:49   supposedly the UK is now going to leave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5029">TS</a>]

01:23:52   the European Union yeah maybe it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5032">TS</a>]

01:23:55   so many people want to talk about it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5035">TS</a>]

01:23:57   it's one of those things as well like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5037">TS</a>]

01:23:58   haven't been following the details Super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5038">TS</a>]

01:24:00   closely like when it was first announced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5040">TS</a>]

01:24:04   and when I was in LA I did kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5044">TS</a>]

01:24:08   follow the news for a while but it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5048">TS</a>]

01:24:10   his paintings because i was supposed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5050">TS</a>]

01:24:12   be at some party I was being a grudge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5052">TS</a>]

01:24:14   alike [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5054">TS</a>]

01:24:15   this party is really loud I don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5055">TS</a>]

01:24:17   to be here it's hard to talk to people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5057">TS</a>]

01:24:18   and then suddenly when news starts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5058">TS</a>]

01:24:20   rolling and it's like wow news seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5060">TS</a>]

01:24:22   like a much more attractive option so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5062">TS</a>]

01:24:24   just like left and sat down on Twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5064">TS</a>]

01:24:27   for a while trying to read through news [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5067">TS</a>]

01:24:29   stories and see like what what's going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5069">TS</a>]

01:24:30   on with breakfast like as the results [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5070">TS</a>]

01:24:32   were actually coming in because at first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5072">TS</a>]

01:24:34   it was it looks like this is the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5074">TS</a>]

01:24:35   it's going to happen and then and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5075">TS</a>]

01:24:37   it really did become official so I kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5077">TS</a>]

01:24:39   of followed it right at the start and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5079">TS</a>]

01:24:42   then i have only heard some of the major [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5082">TS</a>]

01:24:46   beats of this that have occurred in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5086">TS</a>]

01:24:48   past two weeks but as you might expect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5088">TS</a>]

01:24:50   with things like I haven't been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5090">TS</a>]

01:24:52   following it super super close everyday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5092">TS</a>]

01:24:53   I mean since that happened the British [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5093">TS</a>]

01:24:56   politics is like just like exploded like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5096">TS</a>]

01:25:00   it's been crazy but I don't think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5100">TS</a>]

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01:25:03   to hear about because that's probably of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5103">TS</a>]

01:25:05   more interest to the British people but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5105">TS</a>]

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01:25:11   Minister resigned and then there's been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5111">TS</a>]

01:25:14   all sorts of Machiavellian imaginations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5114">TS</a>]

01:25:17   going on and like stuff you couldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5117">TS</a>]

01:25:19   make up and everyone's resigning and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5119">TS</a>]

01:25:21   stabbing everyone in the back and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5121">TS</a>]

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01:25:33   are you disappointed do you have any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5133">TS</a>]

01:25:35   feelings about what happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5135">TS</a>]

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01:25:39   our episode where we talked about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5139">TS</a>]

01:25:41   before it occurred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5141">TS</a>]

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01:25:47   the same feelings like I made it pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5147">TS</a>]

01:25:49   clear in that episode that my position [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5149">TS</a>]

01:25:51   is that it would be better for the UK to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5151">TS</a>]

01:25:54   stay in and that was your position as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5154">TS</a>]

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01:25:58   about at that time was it's a very hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5158">TS</a>]

01:26:02   thing to discuss in any meaningful way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5162">TS</a>]

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01:26:09   followed the politics super closely this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5169">TS</a>]

01:26:11   time around is because I feel it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5171">TS</a>]

01:26:12   the same thing again like when I look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5172">TS</a>]

01:26:14   into what's going on with practice it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5174">TS</a>]

01:26:17   ok we did this vote people voted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5177">TS</a>]

01:26:20   there's there's a clear outcome from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5180">TS</a>]

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01:26:24   uncertainty but what happens next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5184">TS</a>]

01:26:27   first it seems like it's the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5187">TS</a>]

01:26:30   problem again who knows like there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5190">TS</a>]

01:26:32   details there's no procedure there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5192">TS</a>]

01:26:34   plan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5194">TS</a>]

01:26:35   there's no prime minister to enact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5195">TS</a>]

01:26:37   anything I know the people who fought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5197">TS</a>]

01:26:39   for have all left the ship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5199">TS</a>]

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01:26:44   and then walked away yeah i mean what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5204">TS</a>]

01:26:46   you're describing there is it's like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5206">TS</a>]

01:26:47   leader of you Kip resigned as it has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5207">TS</a>]

01:26:50   been a whole bunch of other things about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5210">TS</a>]

01:26:51   like people who were prominent breaks it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5211">TS</a>]

01:26:54   cheerleaders yeah I don't want nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5214">TS</a>]

01:26:55   to do with it after gonna actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5215">TS</a>]

01:26:57   evidence which I don't think is any kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5217">TS</a>]

01:27:00   of like real surprise in some ways but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5220">TS</a>]

01:27:04   it doesn't mean that that at the time of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5224">TS</a>]

01:27:06   recording we are in this position where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5226">TS</a>]

01:27:08   it is just a total struggling shoulders [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5228">TS</a>]

01:27:12   hands up in the air emoji about what is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5232">TS</a>]

01:27:14   actually going to occur like what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5234">TS</a>]

01:27:17   gonna happen it is unknown [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5237">TS</a>]

01:27:19   I mean what do you think what do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5239">TS</a>]

01:27:21   think well you know obviously I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5241">TS</a>]

01:27:24   trepidation about speaking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5244">TS</a>]

01:27:26   politics in a public forum because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5246">TS</a>]

01:27:28   people feel so strongly about it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5248">TS</a>]

01:27:31   most people are pretty entrenched in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5251">TS</a>]

01:27:32   their positions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5252">TS</a>]

01:27:33   yeah and you could say I'm interested in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5253">TS</a>]

01:27:35   my position so you like it's not like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5255">TS</a>]

01:27:36   you're going to persuade anyone of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5256">TS</a>]

01:27:38   anything you're either just going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5258">TS</a>]

01:27:39   have people agree with you or get angry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5259">TS</a>]

01:27:41   at you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5261">TS</a>]

01:27:41   it's not really a discussion but i'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5261">TS</a>]

01:27:43   talk about 1500 people who follow me on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5263">TS</a>]

01:27:45   twitter probably know what I think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5265">TS</a>]

01:27:47   me because after we spoke about on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5267">TS</a>]

01:27:49   podcast probably in the last week or two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5269">TS</a>]

01:27:51   before the vote itself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5271">TS</a>]

01:27:54   I've started to feel more strongly about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5274">TS</a>]

01:27:55   em and I really hoped that we would stay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5275">TS</a>]

01:28:00   as part of Europe em and I started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5280">TS</a>]

01:28:03   following the debate a lot more closely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5283">TS</a>]

01:28:04   and a lot of a lot of things happened in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5284">TS</a>]

01:28:06   the last week or two before that device [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5286">TS</a>]

01:28:09   which you know we don't need to go into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5289">TS</a>]

01:28:10   all the details but I hoped we would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5290">TS</a>]

01:28:12   stay now all the people i'm friends with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5292">TS</a>]

01:28:14   think the same as me on facebook and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5294">TS</a>]

01:28:16   lot of my twitter feed and let so so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5296">TS</a>]

01:28:19   was surrounded by a lot of reinforcing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5299">TS</a>]

01:28:21   comments where everyone was saying we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5301">TS</a>]

01:28:23   have to stay we're going to stay it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5303">TS</a>]

01:28:24   all great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5304">TS</a>]

01:28:25   so if you were to look at my facebook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5305">TS</a>]

01:28:27   feed it would be inconceivable to that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5307">TS</a>]

01:28:29   the vote would go the way it did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5309">TS</a>]

01:28:31   yeah and that this is a total phenomenon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5311">TS</a>]

01:28:33   that everybody experiences yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5313">TS</a>]

01:28:34   politically is yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5314">TS</a>]

01:28:36   it doesn't matter what election for what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5316">TS</a>]

01:28:37   event just the way people naturally sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5317">TS</a>]

01:28:40   themselves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5320">TS</a>]

01:28:41   elves you are almost certainly going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5321">TS</a>]

01:28:43   find yourself in a situation where the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5323">TS</a>]

01:28:44   vast majority people you know and or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5324">TS</a>]

01:28:46   follow online agree with you and so your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5326">TS</a>]

01:28:49   results seem surprising but I was not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5329">TS</a>]

01:28:51   supposed to be surprised and I was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5331">TS</a>]

01:28:53   little bit surprised but not trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5333">TS</a>]

01:28:54   spice because luckily for me I have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5334">TS</a>]

01:28:57   diverse and a range of friends that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5337">TS</a>]

01:28:59   have a few friends from different parts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5339">TS</a>]

01:29:02   of England to me who felt the opposite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5342">TS</a>]

01:29:04   and I would occasionally see posts from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5344">TS</a>]

01:29:06   them and I'd be like really you really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5346">TS</a>]

01:29:08   think that and I would sometimes go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5348">TS</a>]

01:29:10   clicking off down those rabbit holes and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5350">TS</a>]

01:29:12   into their worlds of friends and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5352">TS</a>]

01:29:15   suddenly I was saying how different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5355">TS</a>]

01:29:16   fades and whole different worlds where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5356">TS</a>]

01:29:18   was overwhelmingly the other way and my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5358">TS</a>]

01:29:21   way of thinking wasn't represented at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5361">TS</a>]

01:29:22   all so it was kind of a wake-up call for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5362">TS</a>]

01:29:25   me that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5365">TS</a>]

01:29:26   hang on a second this is a this may well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5366">TS</a>]

01:29:28   go the other way and of course it did go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5368">TS</a>]

01:29:31   the other way and I I'm really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5371">TS</a>]

01:29:33   disappointed by and I feel like a parent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5373">TS</a>]

01:29:37   it's almost like I'm not angry just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5377">TS</a>]

01:29:39   disappointed but I am also i am also a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5379">TS</a>]

01:29:42   little bit a little bit angry about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5382">TS</a>]

01:29:44   but I kind of feel a bit helpless about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5384">TS</a>]

01:29:45   and i have cooled down quite a lot since [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5385">TS</a>]

01:29:47   the week or two after the debate but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5387">TS</a>]

01:29:49   just think it was such a wrongheaded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5389">TS</a>]

01:29:52   decision by so many people and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5392">TS</a>]

01:29:57   almost like I'm just like I feel a bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5397">TS</a>]

01:29:59   cringey that I'm surrounded by so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5399">TS</a>]

01:30:00   people em that think in a certain way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5400">TS</a>]

01:30:03   that I don't think and you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5403">TS</a>]

01:30:05   respect their right and they won the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5405">TS</a>]

01:30:06   vote so so good for them although [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5406">TS</a>]

01:30:09   funnily enough all those people who I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5409">TS</a>]

01:30:11   friends with who were like let's leave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5411">TS</a>]

01:30:13   let's leave have gone very quiet since [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5413">TS</a>]

01:30:15   because I think I laughter I do think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5415">TS</a>]

01:30:17   it's true that a lot of them perhaps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5417">TS</a>]

01:30:18   didn't think they'd win or it would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5418">TS</a>]

01:30:21   different and I think a lot of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5421">TS</a>]

01:30:22   are a bit shocked and I've spoken to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5422">TS</a>]

01:30:24   some of the month but a few relatives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5424">TS</a>]

01:30:26   actually young relatives who I spoke to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5426">TS</a>]

01:30:28   and I said officers are you voted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5428">TS</a>]

01:30:30   leave did you like why and they're kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5430">TS</a>]

01:30:32   of like our deny I kind of regret it now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5432">TS</a>]

01:30:35   that i am saying a lot of that and there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5435">TS</a>]

01:30:37   is this sort of pervasive media story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5437">TS</a>]

01:30:40   that's coming across the everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5440">TS</a>]

01:30:41   regrets their vote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5441">TS</a>]

01:30:42   I don't actually think that's true i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5442">TS</a>]

01:30:44   think it's probably more all the people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5444">TS</a>]

01:30:46   like me kind of still in our bubbles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5446">TS</a>]

01:30:48   telling yourself that everyone regrets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5448">TS</a>]

01:30:50   how they voted yeah they probably don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5450">TS</a>]

01:30:52   yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5452">TS</a>]

01:30:53   completely agree i I've seen a few of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5453">TS</a>]

01:30:54   those stories and I think that they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5454">TS</a>]

01:30:56   they are frankly horrific Lee unfair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5456">TS</a>]

01:30:59   anecdotal evidence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5459">TS</a>]

01:31:01   yes I grand and I great and also wishful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5461">TS</a>]

01:31:03   thinking almost certainly on the part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5463">TS</a>]

01:31:05   the people reporting them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5465">TS</a>]

01:31:06   yes I think there was a lot of wishful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5466">TS</a>]

01:31:07   thinking going on in the in the fallout [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5467">TS</a>]

01:31:09   from the people who lost and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5469">TS</a>]

01:31:12   then they lost but what's going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5472">TS</a>]

01:31:14   happen what's gonna happen now kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5474">TS</a>]

01:31:16   baffles me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5476">TS</a>]

01:31:17   I mean as I've said before I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5477">TS</a>]

01:31:20   personally it's probably not that bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5480">TS</a>]

01:31:21   for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5481">TS</a>]

01:31:22   mhm I I do a lot of my work in America [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5482">TS</a>]

01:31:24   so sort of the plunging pounds and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5484">TS</a>]

01:31:26   pound has immediately plunged yeah and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5486">TS</a>]

01:31:28   the economy has immediately started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5488">TS</a>]

01:31:30   tanking but everyone said that wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5490">TS</a>]

01:31:32   happen and it was scare mongering like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5492">TS</a>]

01:31:34   everyone thought these countless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5494">TS</a>]

01:31:36   professionals that was saying would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5496">TS</a>]

01:31:38   really bad for the economy which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5498">TS</a>]

01:31:39   scaremongering and within sort of an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5499">TS</a>]

01:31:41   hour after the economy gotta be plunged [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5501">TS</a>]

01:31:45   but you know that's not terrible for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5505">TS</a>]

01:31:47   i hope i actually think the people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5507">TS</a>]

01:31:50   are going to be hurt the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5510">TS</a>]

01:31:52   I probably a lot of the people who voted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5512">TS</a>]

01:31:54   to that if funnily enough you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5514">TS</a>]

01:31:57   world will keep turning and everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5517">TS</a>]

01:31:59   will work out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5519">TS</a>]

01:32:00   I don't think leaving the European Union [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5520">TS</a>]

01:32:02   is going to look like what the people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5522">TS</a>]

01:32:04   who want to leave the European Union [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5524">TS</a>]

01:32:05   thinks it will look like basically i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5525">TS</a>]

01:32:08   think we will leave the European Union [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5528">TS</a>]

01:32:09   but all of the concessions and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5529">TS</a>]

01:32:13   compromises and things that have to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5533">TS</a>]

01:32:14   done are going to result in a situation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5534">TS</a>]

01:32:16   where everyone is unhappy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5536">TS</a>]

01:32:18   hmm because we have to stay in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5538">TS</a>]

01:32:19   common marker and then they're not going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5539">TS</a>]

01:32:21   to let us stay in the common market of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5541">TS</a>]

01:32:22   Europe without the free movement of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5542">TS</a>]

01:32:24   people and it's the free movement of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5544">TS</a>]

01:32:26   people that I think a lot of the leaves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5546">TS</a>]

01:32:28   were against but the free movement of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5548">TS</a>]

01:32:30   people wasn't part of the referendum [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5550">TS</a>]

01:32:31   question the referendum question was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5551">TS</a>]

01:32:33   just should we leave the European Union [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5553">TS</a>]

01:32:35   so I think we're going to leave this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5555">TS</a>]

01:32:37   governmental body but all of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5557">TS</a>]

01:32:39   compromises that are going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5559">TS</a>]

01:32:40   necessary to preserve the UK economy are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5560">TS</a>]

01:32:43   going to result in all the leaves being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5563">TS</a>]

01:32:44   unhappy anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5564">TS</a>]

01:32:45   mm but who knows i could be wrong I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5565">TS</a>]

01:32:48   no idea now have this kind of i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5568">TS</a>]

01:32:51   going to go along for the ride [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5571">TS</a>]

01:32:52   yeah it's interesting actually kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5572">TS</a>]

01:32:55   okay talking about brexit now because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5575">TS</a>]

01:32:57   does feel like this is a moment after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5577">TS</a>]

01:32:59   all of the passions have passed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5579">TS</a>]

01:33:01   so this morning when I knew we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5581">TS</a>]

01:33:03   going to record the podcast and we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5583">TS</a>]

01:33:06   inevitably going to talk about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5586">TS</a>]

01:33:07   topic I was sitting down and trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5587">TS</a>]

01:33:09   prepare for it and thinking like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5589">TS</a>]

01:33:11   are my thoughts on this like now that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5591">TS</a>]

01:33:13   time has passed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5593">TS</a>]

01:33:15   let me try to think about this and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5595">TS</a>]

01:33:17   only way that I could come up with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5597">TS</a>]

01:33:19   how do i want to think about this is to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5599">TS</a>]

01:33:22   be a bookmaker on the odds of what is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5602">TS</a>]

01:33:25   actually going to occur there was no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5605">TS</a>]

01:33:27   other way that I could kind of think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5607">TS</a>]

01:33:28   about this in a sensible way and would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5608">TS</a>]

01:33:32   you have listed is one of what i see is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5612">TS</a>]

01:33:36   like three options for what can occur [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5616">TS</a>]

01:33:38   when you have described where the UK [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5618">TS</a>]

01:33:41   leaves the European Union but unlike a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5621">TS</a>]

01:33:44   technicality but stays in something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5624">TS</a>]

01:33:48   the DEA like the european economic area [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5628">TS</a>]

01:33:51   or something similar like that i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5631">TS</a>]

01:33:54   of that as the non exit brexit yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5634">TS</a>]

01:33:56   which is where bragging but on a total [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5636">TS</a>]

01:34:01   technicality that that the end result of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5641">TS</a>]

01:34:04   what is going to happen is that the UK [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5644">TS</a>]

01:34:06   just gives up a bunch of Rights it keeps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5646">TS</a>]

01:34:08   free movement of people it keeps paying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5648">TS</a>]

01:34:10   into the European Union and like from a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5650">TS</a>]

01:34:13   normal citizen on the street perspective [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5653">TS</a>]

01:34:16   all seems the same like people who live [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5656">TS</a>]

01:34:18   in Europe can come move to the UK people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5658">TS</a>]

01:34:21   in the UK can go move to Europe and as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5661">TS</a>]

01:34:23   we discussed in the last podcast like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5663">TS</a>]

01:34:24   immigration was a huge issue i give the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5664">TS</a>]

01:34:28   non exit brings it in my mind a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5668">TS</a>]

01:34:30   fifty-five percent chance of happening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5670">TS</a>]

01:34:34   I i think that that is the majority [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5674">TS</a>]

01:34:37   likelihood that this is what's going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5677">TS</a>]

01:34:40   occur and just as just as you were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5680">TS</a>]

01:34:42   saying when i was writing up my notes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5682">TS</a>]

01:34:43   this to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5683">TS</a>]

01:34:44   strikes me as the most pure of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5684">TS</a>]

01:34:47   compromise right because in a compromise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5687">TS</a>]

01:34:49   everyone's unhappy in some manner right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5689">TS</a>]

01:34:53   like that compromises and like okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5693">TS</a>]

01:34:55   great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5695">TS</a>]

01:34:56   the pro-european people are going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5696">TS</a>]

01:34:59   unhappy because now the UK has no say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5699">TS</a>]

01:35:02   enough here for union is governed has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5702">TS</a>]

01:35:05   absolutely no leavers to pull to try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5705">TS</a>]

01:35:08   institute any reforms in the european [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5708">TS</a>]

01:35:10   union and then the people who wanted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5710">TS</a>]

01:35:13   break sit there going to be on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5713">TS</a>]

01:35:14   happy because this situation almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5714">TS</a>]

01:35:17   certainly addresses literally nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5717">TS</a>]

01:35:20   that they cared about in their voting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5720">TS</a>]

01:35:22   right at least trying to imagine and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5722">TS</a>]

01:35:24   looking at looking at the things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5724">TS</a>]

01:35:26   break there's were complaining about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5726">TS</a>]

01:35:27   like this address is nothing so I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5727">TS</a>]

01:35:31   think that that's like the fifty-five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5731">TS</a>]

01:35:32   percent chance non exit breaks it is is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5732">TS</a>]

01:35:35   the thing that occurs everybody is on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5735">TS</a>]

01:35:37   happy to some extent but it means that a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5737">TS</a>]

01:35:42   lot of the economic concerns that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5742">TS</a>]

01:35:45   currently see happening with businesses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5745">TS</a>]

01:35:47   and with the strength of the pound and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5747">TS</a>]

01:35:48   investment and construction and all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5748">TS</a>]

01:35:50   this stuff in the UK all of that stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5750">TS</a>]

01:35:52   doesn't care like it'll just keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5752">TS</a>]

01:35:54   trucking along as normal with a non eggs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5754">TS</a>]

01:35:57   at breakfast and allows some of the pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5757">TS</a>]

01:36:00   bricks at people whether they're leaders [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5760">TS</a>]

01:36:02   or voters to sort of save a bit face [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5762">TS</a>]

01:36:03   that's exactly it is a face-saving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5763">TS</a>]

01:36:05   manure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5765">TS</a>]

01:36:07   perhaps it is the worst most self-harm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5767">TS</a>]

01:36:11   inflicting space-saving maneuver that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5771">TS</a>]

01:36:13   has ever occurred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5773">TS</a>]

01:36:14   I great but it allows them to say we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5774">TS</a>]

01:36:17   have achieved victory in exiting here be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5777">TS</a>]

01:36:20   needed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5780">TS</a>]

01:36:20   what have you accomplished we gave all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5780">TS</a>]

01:36:22   of our voting rights in the EU and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5782">TS</a>]

01:36:24   nothing else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5784">TS</a>]

01:36:25   that's not that's not a good thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5785">TS</a>]

01:36:27   that's terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5787">TS</a>]

01:36:28   there's one group that will claim that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5788">TS</a>]

01:36:30   as a victory right and they're the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5790">TS</a>]

01:36:31   people who talk about sovereignty mm and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5791">TS</a>]

01:36:36   I could have a lot to say about those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5796">TS</a>]

01:36:37   people venue I white and they will say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5797">TS</a>]

01:36:40   yes but we're now the masters of our own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5800">TS</a>]

01:36:42   destiny and yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5802">TS</a>]

01:36:44   not only is that like a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5804">TS</a>]

01:36:46   deluded yeah but it was really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5806">TS</a>]

01:36:47   beautifully put buy aticle that Ben [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5807">TS</a>]

01:36:49   Goldacre right before the vote saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5809">TS</a>]

01:36:51   that a lot of these terms that were used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5811">TS</a>]

01:36:53   in the campaigning like let's be masters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5813">TS</a>]

01:36:55   of our own destiny a hollow meaningless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5815">TS</a>]

01:36:57   statements that you see on the cover of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5817">TS</a>]

01:36:58   self-help books and like airports and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5818">TS</a>]

01:37:01   like what does that even mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5821">TS</a>]

01:37:02   now we control our own destiny like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5822">TS</a>]

01:37:05   like let's let's take control like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5825">TS</a>]

01:37:08   believe in yourself written yeah exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5828">TS</a>]

01:37:12   yeah it's like there are a small number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5832">TS</a>]

01:37:14   of people that if that we go down this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5834">TS</a>]

01:37:16   path will claim [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5836">TS</a>]

01:37:17   yes but now we're in control of our own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5837">TS</a>]

01:37:19   destiny well no you're not and in fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5839">TS</a>]

01:37:21   you probably less in control because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5841">TS</a>]

01:37:23   you're still at the whims of market [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5843">TS</a>]

01:37:25   forces like everyone in the world except [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5845">TS</a>]

01:37:27   now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5847">TS</a>]

01:37:28   there's one Leslie that you have access [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5848">TS</a>]

01:37:30   to it exactly that you know your pain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5850">TS</a>]

01:37:31   later so it's totally 1984 style less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5851">TS</a>]

01:37:35   say is more control right that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5855">TS</a>]

01:37:38   that result ends up practically being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5858">TS</a>]

01:37:40   the other kind of marking it out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5860">TS</a>]

01:37:44   thing is I i put that my next most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5864">TS</a>]

01:37:47   probable event is at thirty-five percent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5867">TS</a>]

01:37:50   i think that literally nothing changes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5870">TS</a>]

01:37:54   that the government takes the hardline [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5874">TS</a>]

01:38:00   short-term option of just totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5880">TS</a>]

01:38:03   ignoring the non-binding referendum of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5883">TS</a>]

01:38:06   of saying we're just not going to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5886">TS</a>]

01:38:08   this and I think that option has some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5888">TS</a>]

01:38:13   really really terrible consequences but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5893">TS</a>]

01:38:17   i don't see it as a as an impossibility [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5897">TS</a>]

01:38:19   I mean to be clear here I go just to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5899">TS</a>]

01:38:22   this on record like while I am on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5902">TS</a>]

01:38:25   side that lost in this argument there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5905">TS</a>]

01:38:29   no doubt that there was a huge voter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5909">TS</a>]

01:38:32   turnout and people voted to leave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5912">TS</a>]

01:38:35   yep and simply choosing to do something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5915">TS</a>]

01:38:38   like ignore the referendum like even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5918">TS</a>]

01:38:40   though it was non-binding like it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5920">TS</a>]

01:38:42   not sold to people as non-binding if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5922">TS</a>]

01:38:45   you're not going to be able to stand up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5925">TS</a>]

01:38:48   and explain that this thing had the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5928">TS</a>]

01:38:50   legal power of an opinion poll and get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5930">TS</a>]

01:38:52   happy result from people who were like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5932">TS</a>]

01:38:54   okay well then you know whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5934">TS</a>]

01:38:56   no harm no foul on this one unless it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5936">TS</a>]

01:38:58   true that everyone regrets there like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5938">TS</a>]

01:38:59   which I don't think it is but if that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5939">TS</a>]

01:39:01   was true everyone much is quietly put it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5941">TS</a>]

01:39:03   out between their legs and let's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5943">TS</a>]

01:39:05   pretend that never happened but there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5945">TS</a>]

01:39:07   are a few cases in recent years across a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5947">TS</a>]

01:39:10   whole bunch of European countries where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5950">TS</a>]

01:39:11   they have had votes of the people in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5951">TS</a>]

01:39:14   relation to things to do with Europe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5954">TS</a>]

01:39:17   where the will of the people has been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5957">TS</a>]

01:39:19   subsequently been ignored or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5959">TS</a>]

01:39:20   circumvented like it's becoming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5960">TS</a>]

01:39:21   increasingly long list but nothing quite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5961">TS</a>]

01:39:24   so dramatic as a vote to leave the union [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5964">TS</a>]

01:39:28   all together and I think you're right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5968">TS</a>]

01:39:29   ignoring it would be a big deal but for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5969">TS</a>]

01:39:31   people who don't know to leave the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5971">TS</a>]

01:39:33   European Union a vote has to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5973">TS</a>]

01:39:35   conducted by the Parliament all the mp's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5975">TS</a>]

01:39:37   in the parliament the majority of whom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5977">TS</a>]

01:39:39   don't want to leave the opinion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5979">TS</a>]

01:39:41   and I required to put up their hand or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5981">TS</a>]

01:39:44   vote through the the right lobby to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5984">TS</a>]

01:39:46   yes we're going to leave so they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5986">TS</a>]

01:39:48   going to have to vote against their own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5988">TS</a>]

01:39:50   will and follow the will of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5990">TS</a>]

01:39:52   referendum and funnily enough the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5992">TS</a>]

01:39:53   referendum was all about protecting the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5993">TS</a>]

01:39:55   sovereignty of the UK Parliament fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5995">TS</a>]

01:39:57   that all of a sudden the Parliament [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5997">TS</a>]

01:39:59   which we fought so hard to project [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/5999">TS</a>]

01:40:00   sovereignty of where representatives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6000">TS</a>]

01:40:01   they're deciding the future of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6001">TS</a>]

01:40:03   country and then going to have to vote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6003">TS</a>]

01:40:05   against what they want to vote because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6005">TS</a>]

01:40:08   of a huge pole it's an interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6008">TS</a>]

01:40:10   dilemma but but it would be very hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6010">TS</a>]

01:40:12   case for any MP to say well I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6012">TS</a>]

01:40:16   vote for it even though there was this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6016">TS</a>]

01:40:17   result of this referendum so it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6017">TS</a>]

01:40:19   reel-to-reel pickle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6019">TS</a>]

01:40:21   yeah but not even like always the real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6021">TS</a>]

01:40:23   pickle there's no way that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6023">TS</a>]

01:40:25   Parliament just ignoring the referendum [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6025">TS</a>]

01:40:27   is anything other than anti-democratic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6027">TS</a>]

01:40:29   there's there's no way that that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6029">TS</a>]

01:40:32   true like the people voted to leave and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6032">TS</a>]

01:40:35   then if Parliament says a forget it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6035">TS</a>]

01:40:38   we're just going to ignore this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6038">TS</a>]

01:40:40   it's but the people also voted all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6040">TS</a>]

01:40:43   those MPAs to represent them in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6043">TS</a>]

01:40:45   parliament the people democratically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6045">TS</a>]

01:40:47   elected them to do that right and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6047">TS</a>]

01:40:49   actually where the true sovereignty of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6049">TS</a>]

01:40:50   the UK lies in the parliament and in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6050">TS</a>]

01:40:53   MPs who were elected by the people so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6053">TS</a>]

01:40:55   they're also they also have a democratic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6055">TS</a>]

01:40:57   job to do to vote for things on behalf [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6057">TS</a>]

01:41:00   of their constituency and I mean we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6060">TS</a>]

01:41:02   haven't got demographics which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6062">TS</a>]

01:41:03   constituencies so we don't know they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6063">TS</a>]

01:41:05   don't know what their particular people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6065">TS</a>]

01:41:07   want necessarily so there is a clash [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6067">TS</a>]

01:41:10   between the two forms of democracy here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6070">TS</a>]

01:41:12   and I know it's sort of you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6072">TS</a>]

01:41:13   splitting hairs and it's the way for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6073">TS</a>]

01:41:15   losers to get out but it is also really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6075">TS</a>]

01:41:17   legitimate concern about how this form [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6077">TS</a>]

01:41:21   of democracy works well it is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6081">TS</a>]

01:41:23   interesting question about the nature of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6083">TS</a>]

01:41:25   representative democracy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6085">TS</a>]

01:41:27   let's assume that the majority of MPs do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6087">TS</a>]

01:41:31   not think it is a good idea for their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6091">TS</a>]

01:41:33   constituents if the United Kingdom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6093">TS</a>]

01:41:35   leaves the European Union delicious use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6095">TS</a>]

01:41:38   that as a starting point for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6098">TS</a>]

01:41:39   conversation but at the same time you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6099">TS</a>]

01:41:42   have direct democracy where the people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6102">TS</a>]

01:41:45   themselves have voted to leave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6105">TS</a>]

01:41:48   what is the correct decision for a moral [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6108">TS</a>]

01:41:53   member of parliament if they did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6113">TS</a>]

01:41:55   agree with the democracy of what to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6115">TS</a>]

01:41:58   like I think there's no good way out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6118">TS</a>]

01:42:00   that they would have been a good way out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6120">TS</a>]

01:42:01   of it i don't have this possible i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6121">TS</a>]

01:42:03   mention is that what the Parliament [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6123">TS</a>]

01:42:05   could have done was passed a law that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6125">TS</a>]

01:42:07   the result of the referendum was binding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6127">TS</a>]

01:42:10   before the referendum happened but they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6130">TS</a>]

01:42:12   didn't do that and i almost think they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6132">TS</a>]

01:42:14   deliberately didn't do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6134">TS</a>]

01:42:16   this is kind of my theory about why do I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6136">TS</a>]

01:42:20   think there's a thirty-five percent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6140">TS</a>]

01:42:21   chance that literally nothing happens or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6141">TS</a>]

01:42:23   fifty five percent chance of the non [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6143">TS</a>]

01:42:24   exit brexit which leaves like an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6144">TS</a>]

01:42:27   eighty-five percent chance that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6147">TS</a>]

01:42:28   essentially from the average citizens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6148">TS</a>]

01:42:31   perspective [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6151">TS</a>]

01:42:32   nothing changes is that was at ninety [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6152">TS</a>]

01:42:34   percent uh I've had enough of that in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6154">TS</a>]

01:42:36   these numbers are frightened I yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6156">TS</a>]

01:42:38   have a feel for the proposed yes that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6158">TS</a>]

01:42:40   exactly it like is it you know the these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6160">TS</a>]

01:42:43   numbers their number ish present maybe I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6163">TS</a>]

01:42:47   mean 45% not exactly but whatever eighty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6167">TS</a>]

01:42:49   ninety percent chance nothing happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6169">TS</a>]

01:42:51   just like when i try to think about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6171">TS</a>]

01:42:52   future and I'm thinking about you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6172">TS</a>]

01:42:54   how soon are electric cars going to come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6174">TS</a>]

01:42:56   or you know something else that's on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6176">TS</a>]

01:42:58   horizon like how soon is genetic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6178">TS</a>]

01:43:01   manipulation technology like when i try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6181">TS</a>]

01:43:03   to think about what changes in the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6183">TS</a>]

01:43:05   I think you always have to try to look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6185">TS</a>]

01:43:07   at it from the perspective of things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6187">TS</a>]

01:43:09   like economic demand which I always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6189">TS</a>]

01:43:12   place a lot of value on and you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6192">TS</a>]

01:43:13   look at the trend lines of where things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6193">TS</a>]

01:43:15   are going to occur and you also have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6195">TS</a>]

01:43:18   look at like what what does the current [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6198">TS</a>]

01:43:20   institution in power think of this and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6200">TS</a>]

01:43:23   how much power do they have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6203">TS</a>]

01:43:24   accelerate or prevent this thing and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6204">TS</a>]

01:43:27   look at the whole brexit situation and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6207">TS</a>]

01:43:29   can't help but think that anyone I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6209">TS</a>]

01:43:33   think that a lot of the stuff that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6213">TS</a>]

01:43:34   occurred in that election was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6214">TS</a>]

01:43:37   politicians probably pandering to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6217">TS</a>]

01:43:42   leave voters for their votes partly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6222">TS</a>]

01:43:46   because of the way that the the UK [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6226">TS</a>]

01:43:47   government kind of does the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6227">TS</a>]

01:43:48   first-past-the-post voting splitting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6228">TS</a>]

01:43:49   thing I think a lot of that kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6229">TS</a>]

01:43:52   prominent people who make a career on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6232">TS</a>]

01:43:54   being anti the European Union there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6234">TS</a>]

01:43:57   a lot of people who might quite enjoy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6237">TS</a>]

01:43:59   the position of being against a thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6239">TS</a>]

01:44:01   and so of course they want the thing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6241">TS</a>]

01:44:04   continue to exist and in their heart of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6244">TS</a>]

01:44:06   hearts might recognize that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6246">TS</a>]

01:44:07   actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6247">TS</a>]

01:44:07   but there's like a political miche of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6247">TS</a>]

01:44:10   being the opposition and so for example [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6250">TS</a>]

01:44:13   like I think with newspapers and stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6253">TS</a>]

01:44:15   or even with the UK government in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6255">TS</a>]

01:44:16   particular they always love to blame the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6256">TS</a>]

01:44:18   EU for everything because it means is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6258">TS</a>]

01:44:21   there's always someone to pass the buck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6261">TS</a>]

01:44:22   on to write like always never actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6262">TS</a>]

01:44:24   our fault it's always somebody else's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6264">TS</a>]

01:44:26   fault at a political level there's that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6266">TS</a>]

01:44:28   and other personal level there's blaming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6268">TS</a>]

01:44:30   immigrants are people from other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6270">TS</a>]

01:44:32   countries for your problems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6272">TS</a>]

01:44:34   I think that happens a few levels at one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6274">TS</a>]

01:44:36   level you blame the bureaucrats there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6276">TS</a>]

01:44:38   one group of people who just hate those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6278">TS</a>]

01:44:39   bureaucrats and programs and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6279">TS</a>]

01:44:41   there's another group of people that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6281">TS</a>]

01:44:42   want to blame immigrants because they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6282">TS</a>]

01:44:45   not happy with their lot in life and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6285">TS</a>]

01:44:46   think maybe people are taking their jobs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6286">TS</a>]

01:44:48   or they're changing their culture for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6288">TS</a>]

01:44:50   the worse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6290">TS</a>]

01:44:51   so there's a few different levels going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6291">TS</a>]

01:44:53   on yeah there's definitely a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6293">TS</a>]

01:44:53   different levels that so what I want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6293">TS</a>]

01:44:55   be clear here is I don't think that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6295">TS</a>]

01:44:57   people who voted for breakfast it were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6297">TS</a>]

01:44:59   in sincere but I can say that I doubt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6299">TS</a>]

01:45:03   the suspicions of a lot of the political [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6303">TS</a>]

01:45:05   leaders who were promoting brexit I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6305">TS</a>]

01:45:09   doubt in their heart of hearts like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6309">TS</a>]

01:45:10   did they actually really want and what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6310">TS</a>]

01:45:13   think that they might have wanted was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6313">TS</a>]

01:45:14   close loss right person but so that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6314">TS</a>]

01:45:18   can say oh you know we we fight for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6318">TS</a>]

01:45:21   Rex its you skeptics we fight for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6321">TS</a>]

01:45:23   like vote for us i think that that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6323">TS</a>]

01:45:25   their ideal outcome and then when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6325">TS</a>]

01:45:28   add on top of that what I think of as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6328">TS</a>]

01:45:30   looking looking at the economic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6330">TS</a>]

01:45:31   situation and we now have definite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6331">TS</a>]

01:45:34   evidence like the global market and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6334">TS</a>]

01:45:36   local economy does not like brexit right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6336">TS</a>]

01:45:41   this is a thumbs down on breakfast at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6341">TS</a>]

01:45:43   least in the short run for what does the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6343">TS</a>]

01:45:46   world economy think about this situation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6346">TS</a>]

01:45:48   hmm and so I look at and I say okay one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6348">TS</a>]

01:45:50   the people who are in power who are in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6350">TS</a>]

01:45:54   the position to actually change things i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6354">TS</a>]

01:45:58   think most of them don't want anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6358">TS</a>]

01:45:59   to change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6359">TS</a>]

01:46:00   and secondly I think there's a huge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6360">TS</a>]

01:46:04   economic pressure to not change so when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6364">TS</a>]

01:46:07   I look at those two things that's why I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6367">TS</a>]

01:46:10   only put like a ten fifteen percent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6370">TS</a>]

01:46:12   chance on breaks it's in the way people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6372">TS</a>]

01:46:15   who voted for breakfast and think of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6375">TS</a>]

01:46:17   actually occurring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6377">TS</a>]

01:46:19   complete withdrawal build a wall exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6379">TS</a>]

01:46:22   shaft right hey I think there's there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6382">TS</a>]

01:46:24   very little chance of that happening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6384">TS</a>]

01:46:26   because the people holding the levers of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6386">TS</a>]

01:46:29   power don't want it to occur kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6389">TS</a>]

01:46:31   like the embodied corporations out there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6391">TS</a>]

01:46:33   don't want it to and curly like what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6393">TS</a>]

01:46:35   imagine is is happening right now we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6395">TS</a>]

01:46:37   talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6397">TS</a>]

01:46:38   is that maybe somewhere somewhere in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6398">TS</a>]

01:46:40   government there is a room in which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6400">TS</a>]

01:46:42   politicians and prominent party backers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6402">TS</a>]

01:46:46   and companies and banks are all in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6406">TS</a>]

01:46:48   room leaning a tremendous amount of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6408">TS</a>]

01:46:51   pressure on some poor sod to be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6411">TS</a>]

01:46:54   scapegoat for this whole thing we know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6414">TS</a>]

01:46:56   we just want someone to take the fall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6416">TS</a>]

01:46:58   for why brexit isn't going to occur [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6418">TS</a>]

01:47:00   because all of the interests in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6420">TS</a>]

01:47:03   room don't want it to occur and you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6423">TS</a>]

01:47:05   that'd be great but how can look how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6425">TS</a>]

01:47:08   does that manifest itself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6428">TS</a>]

01:47:09   well I'm not a details man i'm just an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6429">TS</a>]

01:47:11   idea i right I don't know what that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6431">TS</a>]

01:47:14   looks like it could only be like a prime [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6434">TS</a>]

01:47:15   minister that refuses to do it but then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6435">TS</a>]

01:47:17   now have to fall on the sword and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6437">TS</a>]

01:47:19   the pressure will be on the next prime [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6439">TS</a>]

01:47:20   minister do it which is kind of what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6440">TS</a>]

01:47:22   happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6442">TS</a>]

01:47:22   also there's a possibility of having an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6442">TS</a>]

01:47:24   early election in the UK [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6444">TS</a>]

01:47:26   yeah which is more difficult to do but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6446">TS</a>]

01:47:27   it is still possible to do and i just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6447">TS</a>]

01:47:30   think that the various powers that be do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6450">TS</a>]

01:47:32   not want this to occur and in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6452">TS</a>]

01:47:35   situation like this if I have to put my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6455">TS</a>]

01:47:37   money down on who is going to win this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6457">TS</a>]

01:47:40   fight the powers that be that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6460">TS</a>]

01:47:43   speculate do not want this to occur or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6463">TS</a>]

01:47:46   the people who voted in a referendum who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6466">TS</a>]

01:47:49   again to be clear democratically one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6469">TS</a>]

01:47:52   that it should occur [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6472">TS</a>]

01:47:53   I don't put my money on the people in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6473">TS</a>]

01:47:55   that scenario i put my money on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6475">TS</a>]

01:47:57   establishment in that scenario getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6477">TS</a>]

01:47:59   what it once was a super rational gray [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6479">TS</a>]

01:48:01   think about that do you think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6481">TS</a>]

01:48:02   good do you think that's like wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6482">TS</a>]

01:48:04   because i had a base level feels wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6484">TS</a>]

01:48:07   does not like you know the people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6487">TS</a>]

01:48:08   democracy the will of the people should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6488">TS</a>]

01:48:10   be but like super rational dude like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6490">TS</a>]

01:48:12   might think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6492">TS</a>]

01:48:14   actually that's probably a good outcome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6494">TS</a>]

01:48:15   that the people the people don't always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6495">TS</a>]

01:48:17   know what's best for them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6497">TS</a>]

01:48:18   yeah so again like this morning is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6498">TS</a>]

01:48:20   first morning I actually give some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6500">TS</a>]

01:48:21   serious thought to this and my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6501">TS</a>]

01:48:24   conclusion is that it is wrong it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6504">TS</a>]

01:48:27   wrong for the government in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6507">TS</a>]

01:48:30   scenario two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6510">TS</a>]

01:48:31   ignore the will of the people I I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6511">TS</a>]

01:48:34   think there's any argument against that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6514">TS</a>]

01:48:36   but i am on the other side like I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6516">TS</a>]

01:48:40   think Rex it is a good idea and so this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6520">TS</a>]

01:48:43   is a case where a thing might occur for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6523">TS</a>]

01:48:45   the wrong reasons that in the long run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6525">TS</a>]

01:48:48   is better but that still doesn't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6528">TS</a>]

01:48:51   justify the like our democracy we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6531">TS</a>]

01:48:55   just gonna throw it out the window right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6535">TS</a>]

01:48:57   now so the way the way I look at this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6537">TS</a>]

01:49:00   like there are no good directions to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6540">TS</a>]

01:49:03   take i got i think in the long run it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6543">TS</a>]

01:49:06   probably better for the UK to stay part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6546">TS</a>]

01:49:08   of the EU but to do that requires the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6548">TS</a>]

01:49:11   government to kind of subvert its own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6551">TS</a>]

01:49:14   process as like well all we have is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6554">TS</a>]

01:49:18   process that like if you start walking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6558">TS</a>]

01:49:20   down this road of Oh laws like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6560">TS</a>]

01:49:23   we use them when we like them but we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6563">TS</a>]

01:49:24   don't use them when we don't like but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6564">TS</a>]

01:49:26   what's happened now like this is all we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6566">TS</a>]

01:49:27   have to keep the world together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6567">TS</a>]

01:49:29   I mean that looks legitimate way around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6569">TS</a>]

01:49:31   that I guess it sounds stupid even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6571">TS</a>]

01:49:33   saying it would be like a revote like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6573">TS</a>]

01:49:35   are you sure vote like and then see if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6575">TS</a>]

01:49:38   yet same result [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6578">TS</a>]

01:49:39   I know how crazy that sounds but that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6579">TS</a>]

01:49:41   would not subvert the process at least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6581">TS</a>]

01:49:43   it would be like it could be we want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6583">TS</a>]

01:49:46   be more clarification and the questions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6586">TS</a>]

01:49:48   could be a bit more detail this time and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6588">TS</a>]

01:49:49   that could be used as a mechanism to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6589">TS</a>]

01:49:51   withdraw the decision if the people want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6591">TS</a>]

01:49:53   to withdraw the decision which maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6593">TS</a>]

01:49:55   they don't legally and technically that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6595">TS</a>]

01:49:59   would possibly be one of the cleanest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6599">TS</a>]

01:50:01   solutions that like you said before the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6601">TS</a>]

01:50:04   UK says look we're going to have another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6604">TS</a>]

01:50:06   referendum and this one is immediately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6606">TS</a>]

01:50:09   legally binding or they say we're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6609">TS</a>]

01:50:12   we're going to keep having referendums [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6612">TS</a>]

01:50:13   until you for anyone but that but that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6613">TS</a>]

01:50:15   exactly the problem though it is but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6615">TS</a>]

01:50:18   like you suspect that the original [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6618">TS</a>]

01:50:19   referendum was written to be non-binding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6619">TS</a>]

01:50:22   and again all of the parties including [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6622">TS</a>]

01:50:25   you keep and the Conservatives agreed on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6625">TS</a>]

01:50:27   the fact that it was a non-binding which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6627">TS</a>]

01:50:29   leads suspicions to me like they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6629">TS</a>]

01:50:30   want to go the wrong way but and so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6630">TS</a>]

01:50:33   that to me just like well maybe you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6633">TS</a>]

01:50:34   have another one that's legally binding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6634">TS</a>]

01:50:36   but it's just there's no way it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6636">TS</a>]

01:50:37   look awful to do that has like no we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6637">TS</a>]

01:50:41   just gonna keep voting until we get what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6641">TS</a>]

01:50:42   we want it's like well that's a terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6642">TS</a>]

01:50:44   democracy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6644">TS</a>]

01:50:45   it's a terrible way to do things I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6645">TS</a>]

01:50:48   find it very interesting that there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6648">TS</a>]

01:50:50   no good outcome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6650">TS</a>]

01:50:53   I don't know that there's a thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6653">TS</a>]

01:50:54   almost feels like bayesian statistics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6654">TS</a>]

01:50:55   about this to me which is as you add [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6655">TS</a>]

01:50:58   additional pieces of information about a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6658">TS</a>]

01:51:00   problem like it certain unlikely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6660">TS</a>]

01:51:03   probabilities seem more likely and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6663">TS</a>]

01:51:06   reason i bring that up is because when i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6666">TS</a>]

01:51:07   think about breakfast occurring like if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6667">TS</a>]

01:51:09   the UK actually leaves i think it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6669">TS</a>]

01:51:13   very likely like 97% likely that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6673">TS</a>]

01:51:17   Scotland leaves the UK if that occurs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6677">TS</a>]

01:51:20   I i find it very hard to imagine that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6680">TS</a>]

01:51:22   that does not occur because for people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6682">TS</a>]

01:51:25   who don't know who haven't been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6685">TS</a>]

01:51:26   following the story the Scottish people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6686">TS</a>]

01:51:28   overwhelmingly voted to stay in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6688">TS</a>]

01:51:31   European Union but of course there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6691">TS</a>]

01:51:33   part of the whole conglomerate of the UK [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6693">TS</a>]

01:51:35   and all their votes for light in with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6695">TS</a>]

01:51:37   the overwhelming majority of English [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6697">TS</a>]

01:51:38   people and Welsh people so so if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6698">TS</a>]

01:51:40   were just taking the votes cast in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6700">TS</a>]

01:51:42   Scotland alone they did want to stay and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6702">TS</a>]

01:51:45   obviously the scottish independence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6705">TS</a>]

01:51:46   people are using that as as leverage and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6706">TS</a>]

01:51:49   saying hang on we don't want to leave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6709">TS</a>]

01:51:51   the European Union the rest of you do if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6711">TS</a>]

01:51:52   we were independent we wouldn't be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6712">TS</a>]

01:51:54   dragged under with you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6714">TS</a>]

01:51:56   so they're gonna use that to trigger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6716">TS</a>]

01:51:58   their into another independence ave and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6718">TS</a>]

01:52:00   at least from what from my reading up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6720">TS</a>]

01:52:01   there was something about how the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6721">TS</a>]

01:52:02   Scottish Parliament was even saying like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6722">TS</a>]

01:52:03   as far as they're concerned they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6723">TS</a>]

01:52:04   already voted to stay so they just will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6724">TS</a>]

01:52:07   stay right if if the UK actually leaves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6727">TS</a>]

01:52:09   like we don't even need to hold another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6729">TS</a>]

01:52:10   referendum we as a nation already had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6730">TS</a>]

01:52:12   huge margin that says we're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6732">TS</a>]

01:52:14   stay so then that then they're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6734">TS</a>]

01:52:17   definitely get their own American if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6737">TS</a>]

01:52:18   anything looks lovely top levels already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6738">TS</a>]

01:52:20   right it's very clear that could be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6740">TS</a>]

01:52:23   design i gotta Scotland's you have your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6743">TS</a>]

01:52:25   own mode shape right then Scotland's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6745">TS</a>]

01:52:26   gonna be wishing that the UK leaves that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6746">TS</a>]

01:52:28   they can get their emoji that's how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6748">TS</a>]

01:52:30   people make decisions in these things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6750">TS</a>]

01:52:31   but so when I think about that like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6751">TS</a>]

01:52:33   i really do think that it's it's almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6753">TS</a>]

01:52:35   impossible to imagine a scenario where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6755">TS</a>]

01:52:37   Scotland doesn't leave the UK if the UK [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6757">TS</a>]

01:52:40   leaves the EU and then if that occurs i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6760">TS</a>]

01:52:45   also think he liked it starts getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6765">TS</a>]

01:52:47   into the realm of like not crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6767">TS</a>]

01:52:49   unlikely that Northern Ireland which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6769">TS</a>]

01:52:51   also voted to stay might leave the UK [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6771">TS</a>]

01:52:55   because then like Northern Ireland would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6775">TS</a>]

01:52:57   be making a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6777">TS</a>]

01:52:58   decision in the perspective of do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6778">TS</a>]

01:53:00   want to leave the european union with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6780">TS</a>]

01:53:02   england and wales alone right like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6782">TS</a>]

01:53:05   that's a very different question all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6785">TS</a>]

01:53:06   a sudden then we're really looking at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6786">TS</a>]

01:53:09   breakfast it might lead to the breakup [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6789">TS</a>]

01:53:11   of the United Kingdom which i think is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6791">TS</a>]

01:53:14   thing that's kind of on people's minds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6794">TS</a>]

01:53:17   now as a possibility that might occur [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6797">TS</a>]

01:53:19   and so when I say it's like it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6799">TS</a>]

01:53:21   bayesian in a way it's almost like if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6801">TS</a>]

01:53:24   the UK were to have another referendum [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6804">TS</a>]

01:53:26   that piece of information plus the piece [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6806">TS</a>]

01:53:31   of information that the international [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6811">TS</a>]

01:53:33   market obviously don't like the idea of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6813">TS</a>]

01:53:35   brexit I think that really changes the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6815">TS</a>]

01:53:38   idea of what are you voting for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6818">TS</a>]

01:53:41   are you voting for possibly just Wales [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6821">TS</a>]

01:53:44   and England to leave the EU that sounds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6824">TS</a>]

01:53:47   like a terrible idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6827">TS</a>]

01:53:48   like I don't think very many people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6828">TS</a>]

01:53:49   would vote for that if it was on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6829">TS</a>]

01:53:51   referendum but it may very well be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6831">TS</a>]

01:53:54   logical consequence of the referendum [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6834">TS</a>]

01:53:55   yeah I think you're right ray [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6835">TS</a>]

01:53:58   there's a few other things that I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6838">TS</a>]

01:53:59   thoughts and I that I had one thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6839">TS</a>]

01:54:02   I think is important to say it's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6842">TS</a>]

01:54:03   important thing and what's going on in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6843">TS</a>]

01:54:05   politics in a few things is that i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6845">TS</a>]

01:54:08   think most of the people who voted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6848">TS</a>]

01:54:11   leave idiots right like I think I made a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6851">TS</a>]

01:54:16   poor decision or whatever reasons they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6856">TS</a>]

01:54:18   made it but i don't think they're idiots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6858">TS</a>]

01:54:20   but i think that has been the pervasive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6860">TS</a>]

01:54:22   message if you vote to leave you idiot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6862">TS</a>]

01:54:25   and that was kind of the intellectual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6865">TS</a>]

01:54:27   highbrow sort of attitude that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6867">TS</a>]

01:54:29   coming across in the build-up to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6869">TS</a>]

01:54:30   election and I think that was really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6870">TS</a>]

01:54:32   really counterproductive and I think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6872">TS</a>]

01:54:35   makes people who are 5050 but leaning or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6875">TS</a>]

01:54:38   maybe people have a slight leaning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6878">TS</a>]

01:54:39   towards leave I just think in trenches [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6879">TS</a>]

01:54:41   their position telling people they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6881">TS</a>]

01:54:43   idiots is bad and I think it became a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6883">TS</a>]

01:54:45   really big part of this election that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6885">TS</a>]

01:54:47   people who maybe have a lower income or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6887">TS</a>]

01:54:50   come from a part of England that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6890">TS</a>]

01:54:51   poorer felt like they were being told [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6891">TS</a>]

01:54:53   they were idiots for having their doubts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6893">TS</a>]

01:54:55   about Europe and I think that caused a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6895">TS</a>]

01:54:57   real back lash and fair enough to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6897">TS</a>]

01:55:00   shouldn't tell people the videos i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6900">TS</a>]

01:55:01   totally agree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6901">TS</a>]

01:55:02   I mean this goes back to my whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6902">TS</a>]

01:55:05   feeling about how your groups just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6905">TS</a>]

01:55:07   talked with themselves and they end up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6907">TS</a>]

01:55:08   creating these imaginary versions of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6908">TS</a>]

01:55:10   other group they just rail against how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6910">TS</a>]

01:55:13   does that change anybody's mind I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6913">TS</a>]

01:55:15   think that just is the same thing like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6915">TS</a>]

01:55:17   it further makes people feel resentful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6917">TS</a>]

01:55:20   and trenched into their positions like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6920">TS</a>]

01:55:24   it's not a mind changing thing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6924">TS</a>]

01:55:26   describe someone as like as a idiot me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6926">TS</a>]

01:55:29   like instruct so you should change your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6929">TS</a>]

01:55:30   mind and vote for me it's not a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6930">TS</a>]

01:55:32   argument is not a good way to change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6932">TS</a>]

01:55:33   someone's actual mind tell you whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6933">TS</a>]

01:55:35   stuff done gray well I've started the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6935">TS</a>]

01:55:38   process of applying for my Irish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6938">TS</a>]

01:55:40   passport you really yeah with so I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6940">TS</a>]

01:55:46   stay the european union's do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6946">TS</a>]

01:55:47   are you able to get an Irish passport I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6947">TS</a>]

01:55:49   am I am so I've got an australian one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6949">TS</a>]

01:55:51   and I've got a UK one but I am eligible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6951">TS</a>]

01:55:53   for an Irishman some I could end up with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6953">TS</a>]

01:55:56   three passports [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6956">TS</a>]

01:55:57   I always forget that you have the UK [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6957">TS</a>]

01:55:58   passport I don't know why I can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6958">TS</a>]

01:56:00   remember that i was thinking like oh but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6960">TS</a>]

01:56:01   but but if you get the Irish passport [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6961">TS</a>]

01:56:03   just like me you can stay in the UK [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6963">TS</a>]

01:56:05   anyway you don't have to go travel to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6965">TS</a>]

01:56:08   the European Union but right you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6968">TS</a>]

01:56:10   keep the option of being able to live [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6970">TS</a>]

01:56:13   and work anywhere in the EU [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6973">TS</a>]

01:56:14   I think it's a stupid thing and like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6974">TS</a>]

01:56:16   you know I don't really need to do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6976">TS</a>]

01:56:18   but it just it was just something i did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6978">TS</a>]

01:56:19   on impulse but I'm not the lone ranger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6979">TS</a>]

01:56:22   like the the the Irish authorities have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6982">TS</a>]

01:56:24   actually issued a play to the people of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6984">TS</a>]

01:56:25   Britain to stop applying for passports [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6985">TS</a>]

01:56:27   because they're going absolutely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6987">TS</a>]

01:56:29   overwhelmed environment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6989">TS</a>]

01:56:30   oh my god i'm not surprised I'm not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6990">TS</a>]

01:56:32   least bit surprised at that Ireland must [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6992">TS</a>]

01:56:34   be getting swamped with passport [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6994">TS</a>]

01:56:36   applications so they go i'm currently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/6996">TS</a>]

01:56:41   gathering all the necessary birth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/7001">TS</a>]

01:56:43   certificates and things like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/7003">TS</a>]

01:56:45   well I wish you all the best of luck in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/7005">TS</a>]

01:56:48   your Irish endeavors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/7008">TS</a>]

01:56:49   mmm it could be a long wait by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/7009">TS</a>]

01:56:51   sounds of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXf1hec/7011">TS</a>]