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00:00:00 ◼   ► I did go out onto the scaffolding [TS]

00:00:01 ◼   ► outside the house I fucked up the [TS]

00:00:04 ◼   ► courage i made it i went out i looked at [TS]

00:00:07 ◼   ► me I looked at my roof I took the nail [TS]

00:00:09 ◼   ► and gear flag and i flattered in the [TS]

00:00:12 ◼   ► wind of the house so inspired by grays [TS]

00:00:15 ◼   ► Batman efforts are basically i just [TS]

00:00:17 ◼   ► didn't want him to be the only Batman [TS]

00:00:19 ◼   ► right so I did it I did it [TS]

00:00:22 ◼   ► it's another very cool picture of you [TS]

00:00:23 ◼   ► Brady I feel like that one too is [TS]

00:00:25 ◼   ► calling out for some photoshopping just [TS]

00:00:27 ◼   ► like you are looking cool explosion [TS]

00:00:29 ◼   ► photograph you know you've got the the [TS]

00:00:31 ◼   ► wind blowing the mighty nail and gear [TS]

00:00:34 ◼   ► flagler kids they know that that's [TS]

00:00:35 ◼   ► calling out for a little modification I [TS]

00:00:37 ◼   ► think gray I'm I'm open to that are I'm [TS]

00:00:40 ◼   ► even willing to make some suggestions [TS]

00:00:42 ◼   ► there's a this event is about you don't [TS]

00:00:45 ◼   ► you don't tell the internet what to do [TS]

00:00:46 ◼   ► really [TS]

00:00:47 ◼   ► crap can I suggest perhaps Tenzing a [TS]

00:00:51 ◼   ► Topman Everest could be used as a is [TS]

00:00:53 ◼   ► inspiration hillary and tenzing together [TS]

00:00:55 ◼   ► on this on the summit's guy in the [TS]

00:00:57 ◼   ► southeast face there but you're right it [TS]

00:01:00 ◼   ► i mean i think the pictures magnificent [TS]

00:01:02 ◼   ► enough on a sign that it doesn't need [TS]

00:01:03 ◼   ► photoshopping but if yes it looks [TS]

00:01:06 ◼   ► absolutely magnificent you on the [TS]

00:01:09 ◼   ► scaffolding leading up to your house for [TS]

00:01:11 ◼   ► that for that for those who have asked i [TS]

00:01:14 ◼   ► went for the she me at the window option [TS]

00:01:16 ◼   ► rather than they going up the ladders [TS]

00:01:17 ◼   ► option [TS]

00:01:18 ◼   ► I just didn't trust those letters yeah [TS]

00:01:20 ◼   ► this is a popular request lot of people [TS]

00:01:22 ◼   ► dying to know which way through which [TS]

00:01:23 ◼   ► people about you know what [TS]

00:01:25 ◼   ► yes a lot of people of us did you do did [TS]

00:01:29 ◼   ► you do the ladder or did you go out the [TS]

00:01:31 ◼   ► window and so for those who ever that [TS]

00:01:34 ◼   ► you're asking i went for the wind eh i'm [TS]

00:01:39 ◼   ► very proud of you [TS]

00:01:40 ◼   ► we've got and we've got to tie up the [TS]

00:01:41 ◼   ► loose ends oh yeah is that it happens [TS]

00:01:44 ◼   ► that we do on the show we tie up the [TS]

00:01:45 ◼   ► loose ends yeah i like to think it's [TS]

00:01:47 ◼   ► like a whole complete thing i would like [TS]

00:01:49 ◼   ► to think when the last ever episode of [TS]

00:01:52 ◼   ► Hello internet is recorded [TS]

00:01:53 ◼   ► uh-huh it was somehow close some loop [TS]

00:01:56 ◼   ► that started like with the first episode [TS]

00:01:58 ◼   ► of people will go to you what I think [TS]

00:02:00 ◼   ► they planned the whole thing [TS]

00:02:02 ◼   ► yeah i think the whole thing was [TS]

00:02:04 ◼   ► scripted it was like it was like a [TS]

00:02:05 ◼   ► genius [TS]

00:02:07 ◼   ► Agatha Christie sort of thing where [TS]

00:02:09 ◼   ► every single sentence in every single [TS]

00:02:11 ◼   ► episode was [TS]

00:02:12 ◼   ► now working towards some moment at the [TS]

00:02:14 ◼   ► end i went to my regular gym this [TS]

00:02:18 ◼   ► morning and walking up to the front desk [TS]

00:02:21 ◼   ► i'm getting ready to go in and there's a [TS]

00:02:23 ◼   ► big pile of towels that you're supposed [TS]

00:02:26 ◼   ► to take from as you go into the gym but [TS]

00:02:30 ◼   ► the new thing this morning was a [TS]

00:02:32 ◼   ► gigantic sign and by gigantic I mean as [TS]

00:02:36 ◼   ► tall as me [TS]

00:02:37 ◼   ► they erected a huge sign which said [TS]

00:02:40 ◼   ► please think about the environment and [TS]

00:02:44 ◼   ► only take one towel into the gym and [TS]

00:02:49 ◼   ► this kind of thing infuriates me [TS]

00:02:53 ◼   ► it absolutely infuriates me and at my [TS]

00:02:56 ◼   ► gym it infuriates me many multiple times [TS]

00:02:59 ◼   ► over so i took for towels into the gym [TS]

00:03:02 ◼   ► today I did not take one towel into the [TS]

00:03:05 ◼   ► gym and 2 y.o skins and I club his seal [TS]

00:03:09 ◼   ► on the way I feel like I don't even need [TS]

00:03:12 ◼   ► to explain why this is infuriating let [TS]

00:03:14 ◼   ► me just run through why in the gym I [TS]

00:03:16 ◼   ► find this particularly frustrating [TS]

00:03:17 ◼   ► there's another sign later in the gym [TS]

00:03:20 ◼   ► which is in the actual equipment like [TS]

00:03:23 ◼   ► when you're when you're doing your [TS]

00:03:23 ◼   ► workout they have these little signs up [TS]

00:03:25 ◼   ► all over the place which say please be [TS]

00:03:27 ◼   ► considerate to the other patrons and [TS]

00:03:30 ◼   ► make sure to wipe down the equipment [TS]

00:03:32 ◼   ► after you've used it totally reasonable [TS]

00:03:35 ◼   ► right this is a totally reasonable [TS]

00:03:37 ◼   ► civilization like request [TS]

00:03:39 ◼   ► you've been a sweaty gross person on a [TS]

00:03:42 ◼   ► piece of equipment you're going to wipe [TS]

00:03:44 ◼   ► down your gross sweat off of it right [TS]

00:03:47 ◼   ► reasonable yes of course yeah okay [TS]

00:03:49 ◼   ► except that the question is wipe it down [TS]

00:03:51 ◼   ► with what [TS]

00:03:53 ◼   ► because in the gym there are no little [TS]

00:03:55 ◼   ► hand wipes for you to use [TS]

00:03:57 ◼   ► there's no equipment there at all so [TS]

00:04:00 ◼   ► unless you're going to wipe it down with [TS]

00:04:01 ◼   ► your hand [TS]

00:04:03 ◼   ► the only thing the only conceivable [TS]

00:04:05 ◼   ► thing that you could use to wipe down [TS]

00:04:07 ◼   ► the equipment is the one towel that they [TS]

00:04:11 ◼   ► want you to bring into the gym but [TS]

00:04:13 ◼   ► nobody's going to use the same towel to [TS]

00:04:16 ◼   ► clean the gym equipment as to clean [TS]

00:04:18 ◼   ► themselves later in the shower i think [TS]

00:04:21 ◼   ► that is just [TS]

00:04:22 ◼   ► vastly vastly on her fair enough yeah I [TS]

00:04:25 ◼   ► mean yeah yeah okay yeah right yeah it's [TS]

00:04:28 ◼   ► completely unreasonable because I'm glad [TS]

00:04:31 ◼   ► you're on board with me breathing i [TS]

00:04:31 ◼   ► really appreciate it I'm not sure that's [TS]

00:04:33 ◼   ► what they made by the one tower thing [TS]

00:04:35 ◼   ► that surely surely you can get a [TS]

00:04:36 ◼   ► different time when you go through a [TS]

00:04:37 ◼   ► shower afterwards [TS]

00:04:39 ◼   ► here's the thing here's the thing with [TS]

00:04:40 ◼   ► the setup of this with with the the [TS]

00:04:42 ◼   ► fascist like setup that this gym has has [TS]

00:04:44 ◼   ► has arranged right [TS]

00:04:46 ◼   ► the setup is such that you can only pick [TS]

00:04:48 ◼   ► up the towels before you go in with this [TS]

00:04:51 ◼   ► little membership card that they give [TS]

00:04:53 ◼   ► you [TS]

00:04:53 ◼   ► so the towels are not accessible when [TS]

00:04:55 ◼   ► you are inside the gym so they have this [TS]

00:04:57 ◼   ► big sign saying please take only one [TS]

00:04:59 ◼   ► towel and then you have to pass through [TS]

00:05:01 ◼   ► a barrier through which you cannot [TS]

00:05:02 ◼   ► return to get another towel later like [TS]

00:05:05 ◼   ► they clearly just want you to take one [TS]

00:05:06 ◼   ► so this is why i don't i don't just take [TS]

00:05:08 ◼   ► 1 i'm going to take well we'll just [TS]

00:05:10 ◼   ► start out with I'm gonna take to write [TS]

00:05:12 ◼   ► because i'm going to need one to clean [TS]

00:05:13 ◼   ► down the equipment and a separate one to [TS]

00:05:15 ◼   ► clean down myself in the shower now i [TS]

00:05:17 ◼   ► also have it to take a third towel [TS]

00:05:19 ◼   ► because i think it's quite reasonable to [TS]

00:05:21 ◼   ► do the same thing in a sauna right like [TS]

00:05:23 ◼   ► you're you're laying down in a sauna as [TS]

00:05:25 ◼   ► a gigantic sweaty piece of meat you are [TS]

00:05:28 ◼   ► sweating everywhere it's nicer for [TS]

00:05:30 ◼   ► everybody again this is how civilization [TS]

00:05:32 ◼   ► holds together if you put down a towel [TS]

00:05:34 ◼   ► in the sauna and you sweat out your [TS]

00:05:37 ◼   ► gross bodily fluids onto the towel [TS]

00:05:39 ◼   ► instead of onto the wood so this is why [TS]

00:05:42 ◼   ► I would normally take three towels into [TS]

00:05:44 ◼   ► the gym one for the sign up one for [TS]

00:05:46 ◼   ► cleaning the equipment and one for [TS]

00:05:47 ◼   ► cleaning me I think this is totally [TS]

00:05:50 ◼   ► reasonable I think three is too many [TS]

00:05:51 ◼   ► great i think you could get away with to [TS]

00:05:53 ◼   ► i could get away with 2 i'm not arguing [TS]

00:05:56 ◼   ► that I could get away with too if I was [TS]

00:05:58 ◼   ► willing to introduce and unacceptable [TS]

00:06:00 ◼   ► level of gross into my life like oh I've [TS]

00:06:03 ◼   ► used this towel to clean down all of the [TS]

00:06:05 ◼   ► equipment and i'm also going to use it [TS]

00:06:07 ◼   ► to clean down the sauna like now that's [TS]

00:06:09 ◼   ► not it's not going to happen because the [TS]

00:06:11 ◼   ► the cleaning down in the gym towel that [TS]

00:06:12 ◼   ► one never really touches my skin right [TS]

00:06:14 ◼   ► because I'm wearing gym clothes when I'm [TS]

00:06:16 ◼   ► in the gym was in the sauna that towel [TS]

00:06:18 ◼   ► is also touching my skin so I don't want [TS]

00:06:20 ◼   ► to use the same towel i think that's [TS]

00:06:21 ◼   ► quite reasonable [TS]

00:06:22 ◼   ► I've never been to a gym where they [TS]

00:06:23 ◼   ► haven't got that rolls of blue roll [TS]

00:06:25 ◼   ► everywhere that blue paper that you [TS]

00:06:27 ◼   ► could just use to wipe down the [TS]

00:06:28 ◼   ► equipment or your forward and things [TS]

00:06:29 ◼   ► like that they not have paper towel [TS]

00:06:31 ◼   ► I know I know this one does not mean [TS]

00:06:34 ◼   ► that in the main area they have drinking [TS]

00:06:36 ◼   ► fountains and that's it and I see people [TS]

00:06:38 ◼   ► using their one sad towel to clean the [TS]

00:06:41 ◼   ► equipment or to do that thing like you [TS]

00:06:43 ◼   ► reserve a piece of equipment by draping [TS]

00:06:44 ◼   ► the towel across that they're using that [TS]

00:06:46 ◼   ► same towel that they then take back into [TS]

00:06:48 ◼   ► the showers and like they're all being [TS]

00:06:50 ◼   ► all follow the sign right but i'm not [TS]

00:06:51 ◼   ► going to follow the sign so normally i [TS]

00:06:54 ◼   ► would take three towels but today [TS]

00:06:56 ◼   ► because this new sign was there about [TS]

00:06:58 ◼   ► like think of the environment as well I [TS]

00:07:01 ◼   ► took for towels because one of them was [TS]

00:07:02 ◼   ► just out of pure inventions and passive [TS]

00:07:04 ◼   ► aggressiveness I thought if you're going [TS]

00:07:05 ◼   ► to tell me you're going to tell me how [TS]

00:07:07 ◼   ► many towels I'm supposed to take because [TS]

00:07:09 ◼   ► of mother earth like no no I'm gonna [TS]

00:07:11 ◼   ► take more towels because i don't think [TS]

00:07:13 ◼   ► that sign is there because this gym [TS]

00:07:15 ◼   ► company suddenly really cares about [TS]

00:07:18 ◼   ► mother earth now I think they're just [TS]

00:07:19 ◼   ► trying to come up with a better way to [TS]

00:07:21 ◼   ► make people use fewer towels and their [TS]

00:07:24 ◼   ► normal sign that you just said oh please [TS]

00:07:26 ◼   ► take one towel they didn't think was [TS]

00:07:27 ◼   ► effective enough so they've decided to [TS]

00:07:29 ◼   ► introduce this kind of environmental [TS]

00:07:32 ◼   ► nagging asst into the system to try to [TS]

00:07:35 ◼   ► be more effective about reducing towel [TS]

00:07:37 ◼   ► usage and I feel like screw you [TS]

00:07:39 ◼   ► if you're going to do that if you're [TS]

00:07:40 ◼   ► going to be passive-aggressive towards [TS]

00:07:41 ◼   ► me in that way i'm going to be [TS]

00:07:42 ◼   ► passive-aggressive towards you i'm [TS]

00:07:44 ◼   ► taking an extra towel today it's so [TS]

00:07:45 ◼   ► clear to me that the company's primary [TS]

00:07:47 ◼   ► concern is the amount of money that they [TS]

00:07:50 ◼   ► are spending on towel laundry right it [TS]

00:07:52 ◼   ► is it has nothing to do with the actual [TS]

00:07:56 ◼   ► environment itself like that's clearly [TS]

00:07:58 ◼   ► what's going on and that's the thing [TS]

00:08:00 ◼   ► that really bothers me about these kind [TS]

00:08:02 ◼   ► of situations that you see like you know [TS]

00:08:03 ◼   ► like you got to California and you're in [TS]

00:08:05 ◼   ► a hotel somewhere and they have little [TS]

00:08:06 ◼   ► sign they're like oh there's a drought [TS]

00:08:07 ◼   ► in California please don't take a very [TS]

00:08:09 ◼   ► long shower please don't wash your hands [TS]

00:08:10 ◼   ► super thoroughly and like now I'm not [TS]

00:08:12 ◼   ► gonna listen to you little sign like I [TS]

00:08:13 ◼   ► don't think the environment is really [TS]

00:08:15 ◼   ► your primary concern here like I think [TS]

00:08:17 ◼   ► your primary concern is the water bill [TS]

00:08:18 ◼   ► at your hotel [TS]

00:08:19 ◼   ► I only ever see these kind of [TS]

00:08:21 ◼   ► environmental signs in places where [TS]

00:08:23 ◼   ► people are using a company's resource [TS]

00:08:27 ◼   ► that is extraordinarily difficult for [TS]

00:08:29 ◼   ► the company to police its usage like and [TS]

00:08:31 ◼   ► then suddenly they're very concerned [TS]

00:08:34 ◼   ► about the environment and wanted you to [TS]

00:08:35 ◼   ► use as little of the resources possible [TS]

00:08:37 ◼   ► right now please only take one napkin [TS]

00:08:39 ◼   ► think about dear precious mother like [TS]

00:08:40 ◼   ► now I don't think that's the reason here [TS]

00:08:42 ◼   ► and i'm going to take extra napkins just [TS]

00:08:44 ◼   ► because you told me not to but it is [TS]

00:08:45 ◼   ► like a sort of a 10 gentle benefit that [TS]

00:08:48 ◼   ► the earth does [TS]

00:08:49 ◼   ► come out on top if we do use less water [TS]

00:08:51 ◼   ► and waterless tails so it's almost like [TS]

00:08:54 ◼   ► you're cutting off the earth nose to [TS]

00:08:56 ◼   ► spite the companies face [TS]

00:08:57 ◼   ► I mean I mean you say that you say that [TS]

00:09:00 ◼   ► right but how how much water can [TS]

00:09:03 ◼   ► possibly you abused by the global [TS]

00:09:06 ◼   ► consumption of cleaning towels i think i [TS]

00:09:09 ◼   ► don't i don't think very much [TS]

00:09:10 ◼   ► it's it but I've put a lot i bet you [TS]

00:09:13 ◼   ► it's a lot sometimes sometimes you see [TS]

00:09:15 ◼   ► statistics on those little nagging [TS]

00:09:18 ◼   ► science where they say they took give [TS]

00:09:20 ◼   ► you all these layers of water and things [TS]

00:09:22 ◼   ► like that and see right there right [TS]

00:09:23 ◼   ► there with you doing you're falling for [TS]

00:09:24 ◼   ► their trap right because look at the way [TS]

00:09:26 ◼   ► they always express those things they [TS]

00:09:28 ◼   ► will always give you statistics in just [TS]

00:09:30 ◼   ► huge numbers right they play the huge [TS]

00:09:32 ◼   ► number game that did you know that [TS]

00:09:35 ◼   ► people washing their hands in California [TS]

00:09:36 ◼   ► they use a bajillion leaders of water [TS]

00:09:39 ◼   ► every minute like oh my god a bajillion [TS]

00:09:41 ◼   ► leaders of water that sounds like so [TS]

00:09:43 ◼   ► much the only relevant question in any [TS]

00:09:45 ◼   ► of these scenarios i get if you're [TS]

00:09:46 ◼   ► thinking about I really care about [TS]

00:09:48 ◼   ► mother earth and I really care about not [TS]

00:09:50 ◼   ► using her resources [TS]

00:09:51 ◼   ► the thing is not the absolute amount of [TS]

00:09:53 ◼   ► resources in any particular situation [TS]

00:09:55 ◼   ► the question is what percent of the pie [TS]

00:09:58 ◼   ► chart of total resource use is this [TS]

00:10:01 ◼   ► water use for example personal water use [TS]

00:10:04 ◼   ► like people using water for drinking and [TS]

00:10:06 ◼   ► for showering and for laundering howls [TS]

00:10:08 ◼   ► presumably this is like zero percent of [TS]

00:10:11 ◼   ► the water use and and the huge huge [TS]

00:10:14 ◼   ► amount of water use is usually ghost [TS]

00:10:16 ◼   ► things like agriculture or some [TS]

00:10:19 ◼   ► industrial processes right like if you [TS]

00:10:21 ◼   ► care about the environment that is the [TS]

00:10:23 ◼   ► thing to focus on is like changing how [TS]

00:10:25 ◼   ► the vast majority of water is being used [TS]

00:10:29 ◼   ► it's crazy making to focus on like the [TS]

00:10:33 ◼   ► little thing that you can see like i [TS]

00:10:34 ◼   ► think that's that's naturally where [TS]

00:10:36 ◼   ► people's brains go with this kind of [TS]

00:10:37 ◼   ► stuff they focus on like oh there's this [TS]

00:10:39 ◼   ► little thing that I can see in front of [TS]

00:10:40 ◼   ► me and I'm going to spend some time on [TS]

00:10:42 ◼   ► changing its like it has no impact [TS]

00:10:44 ◼   ► whatsoever on the global scheme charity [TS]

00:10:46 ◼   ► of a thousand miles starts with one step [TS]

00:10:48 ◼   ► gray but if you're just walking a [TS]

00:10:50 ◼   ► thousand random steps in random [TS]

00:10:52 ◼   ► directions you're making no progress on [TS]

00:10:54 ◼   ► anything [TS]

00:10:54 ◼   ► no progress whatsoever that's that's all [TS]

00:10:56 ◼   ► I'm saying [TS]

00:10:57 ◼   ► all right look this seems like a good [TS]

00:11:01 ◼   ► time to promote one of my topics up the [TS]

00:11:04 ◼   ► running order then because it sort of [TS]

00:11:05 ◼   ► ties in [TS]

00:11:06 ◼   ► go ahead it's a bit of follow-up it [TS]

00:11:09 ◼   ► involves the invention of a new term [TS]

00:11:11 ◼   ► which is a favorite pastime of mine we [TS]

00:11:13 ◼   ► have another predetermined ue we do I [TS]

00:11:16 ◼   ► want to talk about something that i'm [TS]

00:11:18 ◼   ► going to call cheer pressure sheer [TS]

00:11:20 ◼   ► pressure [TS]

00:11:21 ◼   ► yeah so if i take you back to last [TS]

00:11:24 ◼   ► episode I was talking about this this [TS]

00:11:27 ◼   ► cricket match and how this guy had [TS]

00:11:29 ◼   ► marked up at the end of a cricket match [TS]

00:11:30 ◼   ► and it and then lot of people have [TS]

00:11:32 ◼   ► criticized him online [TS]

00:11:34 ◼   ► mm and then all these other people kind [TS]

00:11:35 ◼   ► of rushed to his defense and said you [TS]

00:11:37 ◼   ► shouldn't pick on Amy tried hard he put [TS]

00:11:39 ◼   ► his hand up at the end of the game and [TS]

00:11:40 ◼   ► you know had the courage to try and if [TS]

00:11:43 ◼   ► he files you shouldn't you shouldn't [TS]

00:11:45 ◼   ► pick on him and I didn't completely [TS]

00:11:47 ◼   ► agree with that but then it had echoes [TS]

00:11:51 ◼   ► later in the same show when I made a few [TS]

00:11:54 ◼   ► glib comments about the space X program [TS]

00:11:58 ◼   ► Elon Musk's private rocket company who [TS]

00:12:01 ◼   ► that has been attempting to land Rockets [TS]

00:12:05 ◼   ► on platforms in the sea to sort of make [TS]

00:12:08 ◼   ► them reusable so they sort of self land [TS]

00:12:10 ◼   ► which is quite a quite an impressive [TS]

00:12:11 ◼   ► thing to do we make a rocket real and [TS]

00:12:14 ◼   ► after use standing upright and had been [TS]

00:12:16 ◼   ► a few spectacular crashes and they blew [TS]

00:12:18 ◼   ► up and just my luck straight after we [TS]

00:12:20 ◼   ► recorded there was a very successful [TS]

00:12:22 ◼   ► landing at me and you have anyway that's [TS]

00:12:25 ◼   ► that's because that's what it was it was [TS]

00:12:26 ◼   ► like the day after we recorded he had a [TS]

00:12:28 ◼   ► huge success [TS]

00:12:30 ◼   ► yeah and I waited eight weeks to [TS]

00:12:31 ◼   ► actually release the exit making you [TS]

00:12:33 ◼   ► look like a total idiot [TS]

00:12:34 ◼   ► yeah anyway that's beside the point that [TS]

00:12:36 ◼   ► there were a series of quite spectacular [TS]

00:12:39 ◼   ► crashes and I made some some jokes about [TS]

00:12:42 ◼   ► it and I don't want to say that lots of [TS]

00:12:45 ◼   ► people got in touch and lots of people [TS]

00:12:46 ◼   ► complained because it's very easy to [TS]

00:12:48 ◼   ► think when you see the 5 or 6 comments [TS]

00:12:50 ◼   ► on reddit that that's lots of people [TS]

00:12:52 ◼   ► when of course it's not [TS]

00:12:53 ◼   ► whenever how many hundreds of thousands [TS]

00:12:55 ◼   ► of people listen whatever but it does it [TS]

00:12:58 ◼   ► does seem like loud in your head when [TS]

00:13:00 ◼   ► you read the comments and it's easy to [TS]

00:13:02 ◼   ► have them stick in your craw right where [TS]

00:13:04 ◼   ► you feel like you need to address those [TS]

00:13:05 ◼   ► things [TS]

00:13:06 ◼   ► yeah and the main sentiment of them i [TS]

00:13:09 ◼   ► haven't got any of them in from [TS]

00:13:10 ◼   ► to me at the moment but i think the main [TS]

00:13:11 ◼   ► sentiment of them were I I should know [TS]

00:13:16 ◼   ► better as an enthusiast about space and [TS]

00:13:19 ◼   ► the Apollo program I shouldn't be [TS]

00:13:20 ◼   ► speaking down about SpaceX basically [TS]

00:13:24 ◼   ► actually supporting I should be [TS]

00:13:26 ◼   ► supporting them and there was also [TS]

00:13:28 ◼   ► comments which is true along the lines [TS]

00:13:29 ◼   ► of that space exploration is really hard [TS]

00:13:32 ◼   ► and lots of things go wrong [TS]

00:13:33 ◼   ► I'm sure you were unaware of that here [TS]

00:13:35 ◼   ► with us face that expression is [TS]

00:13:37 ◼   ► difficult Brady but this but this this [TS]

00:13:39 ◼   ► new thing that's happening it ends [TS]

00:13:41 ◼   ► something also have complained about on [TS]

00:13:43 ◼   ► the show before and there is these kind [TS]

00:13:46 ◼   ► of and I related to science more than [TS]

00:13:48 ◼   ► anything because I guess I'm a society [TS]

00:13:49 ◼   ► person and I find lots of society people [TS]

00:13:50 ◼   ► on Twitter and that is this science [TS]

00:13:53 ◼   ► cheerleading m and this this over [TS]

00:13:56 ◼   ► enthusiasm and over positivity about [TS]

00:13:59 ◼   ► anything science-related and this and [TS]

00:14:02 ◼   ► now it's going the other way into what I [TS]

00:14:04 ◼   ► call this cheer pressure of this kind of [TS]

00:14:06 ◼   ► turning and belittling people if they [TS]

00:14:09 ◼   ► dare criticize or speak against science [TS]

00:14:12 ◼   ► or exploration or whatever their [TS]

00:14:13 ◼   ► whatever the chosen topic is let how do [TS]

00:14:16 ◼   ► you speak badly about SpaceX you're [TS]

00:14:18 ◼   ► supposed to be one of us Brady you're [TS]

00:14:20 ◼   ► supposed to be a space person you're [TS]

00:14:21 ◼   ► supposed to be a science person you're [TS]

00:14:23 ◼   ► not allowed to criticize SpaceX you're [TS]

00:14:25 ◼   ► not allowed to make jokes about his [TS]

00:14:26 ◼   ► rockets falling over like drunk people [TS]

00:14:28 ◼   ► as they try to land on the platform [TS]

00:14:30 ◼   ► right and and my shoot is yes I have [TS]

00:14:33 ◼   ► it's not you're pressuring me well I'll [TS]

00:14:35 ◼   ► make jokes about it doesn't mean i don't [TS]

00:14:38 ◼   ► think it's also it doesn't doesn't mean [TS]

00:14:39 ◼   ► I don't like space exploration but like [TS]

00:14:42 ◼   ► you're allowed to criticize things [TS]

00:14:43 ◼   ► you're there to make jokes and like [TS]

00:14:46 ◼   ► chili everyone and like this this is [TS]

00:14:48 ◼   ► sort of now rabbit turning on people if [TS]

00:14:50 ◼   ► they dare [TS]

00:14:51 ◼   ► it's almost it's like you know that code [TS]

00:14:53 ◼   ► button on my hootsie lon mask me he's [TS]

00:14:56 ◼   ► the Science Guy himself he's not the one [TS]

00:14:58 ◼   ► huh but we have to make jokes at his [TS]

00:15:01 ◼   ► expense and pick on him you know [TS]

00:15:02 ◼   ► everyone picks on a lot mask it's like a [TS]

00:15:05 ◼   ► it's like a fun sport isn't up I would [TS]

00:15:07 ◼   ► never say anything bad about you like [TS]

00:15:09 ◼   ► masquerading know you would you would [TS]

00:15:10 ◼   ► say anything bad about him but but you [TS]

00:15:13 ◼   ► also wouldn't turn on someone who did [TS]

00:15:14 ◼   ► you have course not of course that TMI [TS]

00:15:16 ◼   ► am i imagining this [TS]

00:15:18 ◼   ► this is cheer pressure think I'm already [TS]

00:15:20 ◼   ► trying to formulate in my mind [TS]

00:15:23 ◼   ► like a definition for what you mean by [TS]

00:15:25 ◼   ► this but I think that I think you're [TS]

00:15:27 ◼   ► onto something here ready I'm [TS]

00:15:29 ◼   ► immediately latching on to cheer [TS]

00:15:31 ◼   ► pressure sounds right [TS]

00:15:36 ◼   ► yeah that it's like a reverse bullying [TS]

00:15:38 ◼   ► from people who are into a thing I i [TS]

00:15:41 ◼   ► know i'm i'm having a hard time [TS]

00:15:43 ◼   ► articulating what it is but just just [TS]

00:15:45 ◼   ► like hot stoppers something about this [TS]

00:15:48 ◼   ► feels innately right i mean it's [TS]

00:15:51 ◼   ► basically pressuring people with similar [TS]

00:15:53 ◼   ► interests to all be positive about the [TS]

00:15:55 ◼   ► same thing [TS]

00:15:56 ◼   ► hmm we must all cheer together we must [TS]

00:15:59 ◼   ► all be cheerleaders for SpaceX because [TS]

00:16:01 ◼   ► if one of us doesn't tell the line i can [TS]

00:16:04 ◼   ► be interested in space exploration and [TS]

00:16:05 ◼   ► still make jokes and criticize and [TS]

00:16:08 ◼   ► things like this there's nothing wrong [TS]

00:16:10 ◼   ► with that it's quite a scientific thing [TS]

00:16:12 ◼   ► to do isn't it [TS]

00:16:12 ◼   ► it's also just funny i think that's a [TS]

00:16:14 ◼   ► good working definition and i like that [TS]

00:16:16 ◼   ► and i think that there is something [TS]

00:16:17 ◼   ► something along those lines [TS]

00:16:19 ◼   ► what you're feeling here is one of the [TS]

00:16:23 ◼   ► various and multitude side effects of [TS]

00:16:28 ◼   ► humans and their group thinking I think [TS]

00:16:32 ◼   ► there is just something innately in [TS]

00:16:34 ◼   ► humans that is desirous of being part of [TS]

00:16:39 ◼   ► a group like when someone listens to the [TS]

00:16:43 ◼   ► podcast right and they hear you and they [TS]

00:16:45 ◼   ► hear you talk about the space program [TS]

00:16:46 ◼   ► and I can you love all of this stuff and [TS]

00:16:48 ◼   ► if they're a person who's super into [TS]

00:16:50 ◼   ► space they are now mentally categorizing [TS]

00:16:53 ◼   ► you as like oh this person is in the [TS]

00:16:54 ◼   ► exact same group is made and so then [TS]

00:16:57 ◼   ► when there's any kind of divergence from [TS]

00:16:59 ◼   ► that the person this kind of cheer [TS]

00:17:03 ◼   ► pressure is is coming out right where [TS]

00:17:05 ◼   ► the person wants to bring you back into [TS]

00:17:08 ◼   ► line with like you are part of my group [TS]

00:17:10 ◼   ► like I listen to the podcast I like you [TS]

00:17:13 ◼   ► I like space hearing you say something I [TS]

00:17:15 ◼   ► don't like about space is suddenly [TS]

00:17:17 ◼   ► causing a problem in my brain because i [TS]

00:17:18 ◼   ► can't neatly put you into the group of [TS]

00:17:21 ◼   ► people who are super into space all the [TS]

00:17:23 ◼   ► time 100-percent just like I am I think [TS]

00:17:25 ◼   ► that's what's occurring it's because the [TS]

00:17:26 ◼   ► people like you Brady they want you in [TS]

00:17:29 ◼   ► the group that that's what that's what's [TS]

00:17:31 ◼   ► occurring here that that's why I think [TS]

00:17:33 ◼   ► like relating this to peer pressure is [TS]

00:17:35 ◼   ► the right [TS]

00:17:36 ◼   ► metaphor to make where peer pressure is [TS]

00:17:38 ◼   ► about group conformity and this cheer [TS]

00:17:41 ◼   ► pressure is a similar thing it but it's [TS]

00:17:43 ◼   ► it's like the next level up of not just [TS]

00:17:45 ◼   ► conformity but visible and obvious [TS]

00:17:50 ◼   ► enthusiasm for all of the things that [TS]

00:17:52 ◼   ► the group has decided are good to be [TS]

00:17:54 ◼   ► visibly and obviously enthusiastic about [TS]

00:17:57 ◼   ► em I can get behind this one and I'm [TS]

00:18:01 ◼   ► well aware and you know although when [TS]

00:18:03 ◼   ► our testing for the early space program [TS]

00:18:04 ◼   ► before Mara carry their rockets were [TS]

00:18:06 ◼   ► blowing up all the time [TS]

00:18:07 ◼   ► there's a really famous montage in the [TS]

00:18:09 ◼   ► film the right stuff that just shows all [TS]

00:18:10 ◼   ► these Rockets flying up one after the [TS]

00:18:12 ◼   ► other it's a classic it's a classic [TS]

00:18:14 ◼   ► moment in the film and like we're just [TS]

00:18:16 ◼   ► going through that again and do I'm sure [TS]

00:18:18 ◼   ► I'm sure that we're getting flack at the [TS]

00:18:20 ◼   ► time to when that when the press where [TS]

00:18:21 ◼   ► they're filming and the Rockets were [TS]

00:18:23 ◼   ► blowing up and you just gotta get [TS]

00:18:25 ◼   ► through that it's just part of the drama [TS]

00:18:27 ◼   ► of it all you know and we don't all have [TS]

00:18:29 ◼   ► to just if everyone just choose a [TS]

00:18:31 ◼   ► hundred percent and pat him on the back [TS]

00:18:33 ◼   ► every time one of these Rockets blows up [TS]

00:18:34 ◼   ► and says don't worry you'll get it next [TS]

00:18:36 ◼   ► time and no one says gosh these people [TS]

00:18:38 ◼   ► know what they're doing nothing ever [TS]

00:18:39 ◼   ► gets achieved there's no pressure and [TS]

00:18:42 ◼   ► criticism and that really pushes people [TS]

00:18:45 ◼   ► that that scrutiny and that fear of [TS]

00:18:47 ◼   ► failure if people are worried about [TS]

00:18:49 ◼   ► things going wrong and I think they work [TS]

00:18:51 ◼   ► as hard [TS]

00:18:51 ◼   ► keeps them on their toes in a free [TS]

00:18:53 ◼   ► society should have brought this out to [TS]

00:18:55 ◼   ► the wide as possible that like in a free [TS]

00:18:57 ◼   ► society [TS]

00:18:58 ◼   ► you should be able to criticize whatever [TS]

00:19:01 ◼   ► you want that doesn't exist and even if [TS]

00:19:03 ◼   ► you like tremendous pier or cheer [TS]

00:19:06 ◼   ► pressure like you you feel like you're [TS]

00:19:07 ◼   ► not allowed to say things like I don't [TS]

00:19:08 ◼   ► think that's good for for freezes I [TS]

00:19:10 ◼   ► think even if you're into space [TS]

00:19:11 ◼   ► you should totally be able to criticize [TS]

00:19:12 ◼   ► SpaceX if you want to or just make jokes [TS]

00:19:14 ◼   ► at their expense like yeah they're doing [TS]

00:19:17 ◼   ► a great thing but you can laugh at it [TS]

00:19:18 ◼   ► like it's totally fine you know they're [TS]

00:19:20 ◼   ► just they're just words floating in the [TS]

00:19:22 ◼   ► air they're just like thoughts and [TS]

00:19:23 ◼   ► people had you're not going out there [TS]

00:19:24 ◼   ► like sabotaging the Rockets when you [TS]

00:19:26 ◼   ► criticize them for falling over the [TS]

00:19:28 ◼   ► first few attempts this episode of Hello [TS]

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00:21:42 ◼   ► show [TS]

00:21:45 ◼   ► i love i love this is a recurring theme [TS]

00:21:47 ◼   ► of you Brady you put things in the show [TS]

00:21:49 ◼   ► notes and then when it comes around to [TS]

00:21:51 ◼   ► the episode you think I put this thing [TS]

00:21:53 ◼   ► in here [TS]

00:21:54 ◼   ► why did I put this thing in here I [TS]

00:21:55 ◼   ► remember it made me really angry at the [TS]

00:21:57 ◼   ► time but now i can't remember what yeah [TS]

00:21:59 ◼   ► and I I think the thing is that it and [TS]

00:22:01 ◼   ► if you do i guess that just wasn't [TS]

00:22:03 ◼   ► massively useful can you recap it for me [TS]

00:22:08 ◼   ► can I tell you why you put this article [TS]

00:22:10 ◼   ► in there yeah i think this was just this [TS]

00:22:12 ◼   ► was just one of a series of articles [TS]

00:22:14 ◼   ► because it because the apple watch has [TS]

00:22:16 ◼   ► been around for a year [TS]

00:22:17 ◼   ► people are doing retrospectives on it [TS]

00:22:19 ◼   ► okay yeah yeah that's why there's been [TS]

00:22:21 ◼   ► an apple watch talk in the air is it's [TS]

00:22:23 ◼   ► been a long enough time [TS]

00:22:25 ◼   ► interestingly Apple hasn't released [TS]

00:22:26 ◼   ► another one which makes people sort of [TS]

00:22:28 ◼   ► question things quite a long time for [TS]

00:22:30 ◼   ► them to have a generation one product [TS]

00:22:31 ◼   ► this is one of the many articles kind of [TS]

00:22:33 ◼   ► speculating about how many watches they [TS]

00:22:37 ◼   ► could possibly have sold and coming up [TS]

00:22:39 ◼   ► with numbers that don't necessarily look [TS]

00:22:40 ◼   ► great as always with this kind of stuff [TS]

00:22:43 ◼   ► it's shockingly hard to speculate about [TS]

00:22:46 ◼   ► some apple stuff because they play their [TS]

00:22:48 ◼   ► cards close to the chest as much as they [TS]

00:22:50 ◼   ► can then the apple watch is one of these [TS]

00:22:52 ◼   ► things they group into like an other [TS]

00:22:53 ◼   ► sales category and like who knows what's [TS]

00:22:56 ◼   ► in that other sales category [TS]

00:22:57 ◼   ► yeah but either way the other sales [TS]

00:22:59 ◼   ► category didn't shoot up a tremendous [TS]

00:23:01 ◼   ► amounts you can safely assume like they [TS]

00:23:03 ◼   ► didn't sell a bazillion watches like [TS]

00:23:05 ◼   ► that's part of what this is but I see [TS]

00:23:08 ◼   ► this sentiment a bunch of times and this [TS]

00:23:11 ◼   ► always drives me crazy with not just the [TS]

00:23:13 ◼   ► apple watch but with any technology [TS]

00:23:15 ◼   ► products out there in the world that [TS]

00:23:17 ◼   ► people always phrase it in terms of need [TS]

00:23:20 ◼   ► whether say like do you need X and [TS]

00:23:23 ◼   ► whenever anyone is asking that question [TS]

00:23:25 ◼   ► the answer is almost always no no you [TS]

00:23:27 ◼   ► don't need anything [TS]

00:23:29 ◼   ► even I would argue like a smartphone do [TS]

00:23:31 ◼   ► you need a smartphone now like it [TS]

00:23:34 ◼   ► doesn't really fall under the category [TS]

00:23:35 ◼   ► of need [TS]

00:23:37 ◼   ► it's a thing that's incredibly useful i [TS]

00:23:39 ◼   ► just always think that that framing is [TS]

00:23:40 ◼   ► so wrong yeah but I think you're [TS]

00:23:42 ◼   ► thinking of need in the wrong way I [TS]

00:23:43 ◼   ► think you use the word yourself there [TS]

00:23:45 ◼   ► usefully is their usefulness and I think [TS]

00:23:47 ◼   ► that's what they mean by nate they don't [TS]

00:23:49 ◼   ► mean like food or oxygen or water and I [TS]

00:23:52 ◼   ► think they mean it as in can you get use [TS]

00:23:54 ◼   ► out of it [TS]

00:23:55 ◼   ► and even though I know you don't get us [TS]

00:23:58 ◼   ► out of a diamond necklace i guess but [TS]

00:23:59 ◼   ► that's not really how the airport sells [TS]

00:24:01 ◼   ► itself is just purely a piece of [TS]

00:24:03 ◼   ► ornament it does sell herself as a [TS]

00:24:05 ◼   ► useful item so I think it's a fair [TS]

00:24:07 ◼   ► question to ask about it it's just a [TS]

00:24:08 ◼   ► different type of need I think yeah I [TS]

00:24:11 ◼   ► mean I guess I the title i would want [TS]

00:24:13 ◼   ► would be ungainly long to people find [TS]

00:24:15 ◼   ► economic utility in the Apple watch like [TS]

00:24:17 ◼   ► that's the title at once i guess i can [TS]

00:24:19 ◼   ► see why they might want to use the word [TS]

00:24:20 ◼   ► need but i always feel like that is just [TS]

00:24:22 ◼   ► too strong if they want to four letter [TS]

00:24:24 ◼   ► word I i think they could say want like [TS]

00:24:26 ◼   ► do people want an apple watch like I [TS]

00:24:29 ◼   ► think that conveys a much better idea [TS]

00:24:31 ◼   ► and like you said there it's like [TS]

00:24:33 ◼   ► jewelry [TS]

00:24:34 ◼   ► nobody in the world needs jewelry but do [TS]

00:24:36 ◼   ► people want jewelry and its various [TS]

00:24:38 ◼   ► forms [TS]

00:24:38 ◼   ► yes that is clearly a demand that people [TS]

00:24:41 ◼   ► have even though there's just no utility [TS]

00:24:43 ◼   ► to it whatsoever but it doesn't matter [TS]

00:24:45 ◼   ► because monkeys like shiny things right [TS]

00:24:47 ◼   ► and so that they want to buy them want [TS]

00:24:49 ◼   ► is slightly the wrong word to for me [TS]

00:24:51 ◼   ► they're great because you gave me one [TS]

00:24:53 ◼   ► for Christmas [TS]

00:24:54 ◼   ► I'd say thank you and I maybe where [TS]

00:24:56 ◼   ► occasionally and look at it and so uh I [TS]

00:24:59 ◼   ► want one I want to look at it and play [TS]

00:25:01 ◼   ► with it but nowhere near enough to pay [TS]

00:25:03 ◼   ► for one so I don't think what is the [TS]

00:25:06 ◼   ► right word either but i don't know [TS]

00:25:07 ◼   ► whether right where it is [TS]

00:25:09 ◼   ► we need a word between need and want [TS]

00:25:12 ◼   ► yeah you're the you're the word man [TS]

00:25:14 ◼   ► Brady yeah I'm uh I'm got that it cannot [TS]

00:25:19 ◼   ► be weighed that was precisely like do [TS]

00:25:22 ◼   ► people we'd an Apple watch [TS]

00:25:23 ◼   ► ok I I don't see any problem with using [TS]

00:25:29 ◼   ► a word like that you know within context [TS]

00:25:32 ◼   ► i'm sure it'd be very clear do people [TS]

00:25:33 ◼   ► we'd an Apple watch [TS]

00:25:34 ◼   ► I don't think so ok I it's almost like [TS]

00:25:38 ◼   ► it does therefore which have a role in [TS]

00:25:39 ◼   ► in the world is what is coming down to [TS]

00:25:41 ◼   ► is there a role for it in people's life [TS]

00:25:45 ◼   ► that is the question [TS]

00:25:47 ◼   ► and as we discussed last time like I'm i [TS]

00:25:50 ◼   ► am surprised by the lack of Apple [TS]

00:25:52 ◼   ► watches that I see in the real world [TS]

00:25:54 ◼   ► it provides a great deal of utility for [TS]

00:25:56 ◼   ► me and I totally love it but i would [TS]

00:26:00 ◼   ► just like I would die to know like what [TS]

00:26:02 ◼   ► does Apple internally think about their [TS]

00:26:04 ◼   ► own app [TS]

00:26:05 ◼   ► watch I just don't know but speaking of [TS]

00:26:07 ◼   ► things that I weed because of You Brady [TS]

00:26:10 ◼   ► i actually went out and bought an iphone [TS]

00:26:17 ◼   ► SE e 0 and I am entirely blaming this on [TS]

00:26:21 ◼   ► you because we have these conversations [TS]

00:26:23 ◼   ► sometimes in like you plant a little [TS]

00:26:25 ◼   ► thought in my head there's little this [TS]

00:26:28 ◼   ► little irritating grain of sand in my [TS]

00:26:30 ◼   ► mind that I don't want their but that [TS]

00:26:32 ◼   ► you come along and you just drop into my [TS]

00:26:34 ◼   ► brain and you planted one of these [TS]

00:26:37 ◼   ► irritating grains of sand in my mind [TS]

00:26:39 ◼   ► about the iphone SE when we discussed [TS]

00:26:42 ◼   ► last time I know is I heard the moment [TS]

00:26:45 ◼   ► happened I could I could I could yeah as [TS]

00:26:48 ◼   ► I was listening to the podcast i could [TS]

00:26:50 ◼   ► hear you like something flip in your [TS]

00:26:52 ◼   ► voice [TS]

00:26:55 ◼   ► yeah should be perfect sounds just like [TS]

00:27:00 ◼   ► me [TS]

00:27:01 ◼   ► I so there's these two conflicting [TS]

00:27:03 ◼   ► aspects of my personality regarding the [TS]

00:27:05 ◼   ► iphone SE the the primary one which I [TS]

00:27:08 ◼   ► was thinking is I know that I'm a person [TS]

00:27:11 ◼   ► who likes to have up-to-date technology [TS]

00:27:13 ◼   ► that's just part of my personality [TS]

00:27:15 ◼   ► that's the way that I am I know and [TS]

00:27:17 ◼   ► accept that right and so I thought well [TS]

00:27:19 ◼   ► getting on the iphone SE track this is [TS]

00:27:21 ◼   ► no good because apples probably not [TS]

00:27:23 ◼   ► going to update this for forever but you [TS]

00:27:25 ◼   ► you planted this idea of like just try [TS]

00:27:28 ◼   ► it [TS]

00:27:28 ◼   ► heap it's like it like a fun romantic [TS]

00:27:30 ◼   ► fling with this other device like that [TS]

00:27:33 ◼   ► just lodged into my brain in this way [TS]

00:27:35 ◼   ► that I could not possibly remove and so [TS]

00:27:37 ◼   ► I found myself going to the apple store [TS]

00:27:39 ◼   ► like picking up an iphone SE and looking [TS]

00:27:41 ◼   ► at it like turning it over in my hand [TS]

00:27:44 ◼   ► and turning it over in my mind like I [TS]

00:27:46 ◼   ► couldn't let it go and so I eventually [TS]

00:27:49 ◼   ► caved and I did decide to to get one and [TS]

00:27:53 ◼   ► so i have been using the iphone SE for [TS]

00:27:55 ◼   ► the past couple of days [TS]

00:27:57 ◼   ► Wow and man I just like I forgot how [TS]

00:28:05 ◼   ► perfect of a physical size this phone is [TS]

00:28:09 ◼   ► well just [TS]

00:28:11 ◼   ► it's it is like sweet sweet relief after [TS]

00:28:16 ◼   ► this long nightmare of the iphone 6 and [TS]

00:28:20 ◼   ► 6s generation you know how pleasurable [TS]

00:28:22 ◼   ► it is to hold a phone and to not be [TS]

00:28:26 ◼   ► thinking I hope this doesn't slide out [TS]

00:28:28 ◼   ► of my hand I can hardly grip that round [TS]

00:28:30 ◼   ► edge like it's it's it's slippery so you [TS]

00:28:32 ◼   ► don't drop it right kind like the [TS]

00:28:34 ◼   ► thought that is in your head every [TS]

00:28:35 ◼   ► single time you pick up one of the [TS]

00:28:36 ◼   ► iphone s models or like when i first got [TS]

00:28:38 ◼   ► the original ass like oh this phone [TS]

00:28:40 ◼   ► it's a little too big and a little too [TS]

00:28:42 ◼   ► small at the same time like it's just [TS]

00:28:44 ◼   ► these frustrating things like to pick up [TS]

00:28:45 ◼   ► a phone and to have it one fit entirely [TS]

00:28:49 ◼   ► within my hand to have a single thumb be [TS]

00:28:53 ◼   ► able to reach every single point on the [TS]

00:28:55 ◼   ► screen and 3 hold it securely with [TS]

00:28:58 ◼   ► straight edges on the phone it is just [TS]

00:29:02 ◼   ► amazing [TS]

00:29:04 ◼   ► it's absolutely amazing i am so happy to [TS]

00:29:07 ◼   ► be using this size phone [TS]

00:29:09 ◼   ► well what about things like the smaller [TS]

00:29:12 ◼   ► screen for you know watching video and [TS]

00:29:14 ◼   ► heard you got used to the biggest grain [TS]

00:29:16 ◼   ► and what about memory and battery life [TS]

00:29:18 ◼   ► and the other potential drawbacks [TS]

00:29:20 ◼   ► yeah there are potentially a bunch of [TS]

00:29:21 ◼   ► drawbacks and when you do start using it [TS]

00:29:24 ◼   ► at first like some of the icons do seem [TS]

00:29:26 ◼   ► ridiculously small and all of the icons [TS]

00:29:29 ◼   ► bunch together on the screen seem like [TS]

00:29:30 ◼   ► point is not a lot of space between [TS]

00:29:32 ◼   ► these iconic everything feels really [TS]

00:29:33 ◼   ► crowded but you get used to it so fast i [TS]

00:29:36 ◼   ► was watching a YouTube video on earlier [TS]

00:29:39 ◼   ► that get like you were discussing for [TS]

00:29:40 ◼   ► your own words like someone sent me a [TS]

00:29:42 ◼   ► thing to review and so I was taking a [TS]

00:29:43 ◼   ► look at it on the smaller phone on the [TS]

00:29:44 ◼   ► go and it didn't even occur to me like [TS]

00:29:46 ◼   ► oh man I just wish the screen was bigger [TS]

00:29:48 ◼   ► like it was totally fine for purpose [TS]

00:29:49 ◼   ► like to be able to do some basic work on [TS]

00:29:53 ◼   ► it like it was absolutely fine [TS]

00:29:55 ◼   ► so the smaller screen is is not an issue [TS]

00:29:58 ◼   ► this is really interesting i'm convinced [TS]

00:30:00 ◼   ► my biggest fans giving the IRS I oh yeah [TS]

00:30:03 ◼   ► why do you say that I just feel like my [TS]

00:30:04 ◼   ► the back of my right hand hurts a lot [TS]

00:30:07 ◼   ► from when i use a loan from all that [TS]

00:30:09 ◼   ► reaching and shimmying and so I think [TS]

00:30:12 ◼   ► I'm gonna go smoke oh yeah and gripping [TS]

00:30:15 ◼   ► it tightly in your hand to make sure [TS]

00:30:16 ◼   ► that it doesn't fall right like i [TS]

00:30:17 ◼   ► gotta-i gotta put a death grip on this [TS]

00:30:19 ◼   ► like I'm choking a chicken to death [TS]

00:30:21 ◼   ► right like you gotta hold on to that [TS]

00:30:22 ◼   ► phone you know what the message here is [TS]

00:30:24 ◼   ► great [TS]

00:30:24 ◼   ► what's the message brandi was right [TS]

00:30:27 ◼   ► oh yeah is that what it is yeah I do i [TS]

00:30:33 ◼   ► do have to say like you you planting [TS]

00:30:35 ◼   ► that seed in my head as irritating as I [TS]

00:30:39 ◼   ► found it for i mean i don't know like [TS]

00:30:41 ◼   ► two weeks that just kept rolling around [TS]

00:30:43 ◼   ► in my brain and I couldn't let it go and [TS]

00:30:45 ◼   ► I was I was genuinely annoyed with you [TS]

00:30:47 ◼   ► in this way because it was like yeah [TS]

00:30:49 ◼   ► like this is not rational but [TS]

00:30:50 ◼   ► nonetheless like I can't let go of this [TS]

00:30:52 ◼   ► thought I am just so happy I'm so happy [TS]

00:30:54 ◼   ► now and i love this phone design [TS]

00:30:57 ◼   ► probably the biggest challenge going [TS]

00:30:59 ◼   ► back to it i still like i've been using [TS]

00:31:01 ◼   ► it for a few days i still have to do [TS]

00:31:02 ◼   ► sometimes is that again i use my iphone [TS]

00:31:05 ◼   ► in my left hand and I have to kind of [TS]

00:31:06 ◼   ► really remember how to type with a [TS]

00:31:08 ◼   ► single hand and I often catch my right [TS]

00:31:12 ◼   ► hand reaching up to help and to type on [TS]

00:31:14 ◼   ► the phone and have to go like no right [TS]

00:31:16 ◼   ► hand now you're not actually helpful [TS]

00:31:17 ◼   ► here like left hand can handle this [TS]

00:31:19 ◼   ► this thing all by itself like it can do [TS]

00:31:21 ◼   ► all of the typing and so I'm like I'm [TS]

00:31:22 ◼   ► trying to train my right hand to not [TS]

00:31:24 ◼   ► come up but i want to try to type with [TS]

00:31:26 ◼   ► two thumbs even though that's that's [TS]

00:31:28 ◼   ► totally impossible but I'm getting used [TS]

00:31:30 ◼   ► to it very quickly that's probably been [TS]

00:31:31 ◼   ► the biggest adjustments but alright let [TS]

00:31:34 ◼   ► me let you out of the wilderness but you [TS]

00:31:37 ◼   ► are still in the wilderness bring I know [TS]

00:31:38 ◼   ► I know and I'm cabin grreat I'm yeah I'm [TS]

00:31:42 ◼   ► gonna change [TS]

00:31:43 ◼   ► yeah I'm not going I'm not gonna have a [TS]

00:31:45 ◼   ► look in the storm this weekend or [TS]

00:31:47 ◼   ► something [TS]

00:31:48 ◼   ► looking at it in the store I was [TS]

00:31:49 ◼   ► thinking I'll boy like this size is [TS]

00:31:51 ◼   ► really nice and it's interesting to use [TS]

00:31:53 ◼   ► and i love this design like it obviously [TS]

00:31:55 ◼   ► looks better than the garbage 6 design i [TS]

00:31:57 ◼   ► was thinkin all of those things but [TS]

00:31:59 ◼   ► actually using it for a few days is like [TS]

00:32:02 ◼   ► seeing in the store x 10 it's just it's [TS]

00:32:04 ◼   ► I keep feeling this this word of like [TS]

00:32:06 ◼   ► relief like I am relieved to have this [TS]

00:32:09 ◼   ► phone now it's just so much nicer and so [TS]

00:32:12 ◼   ► much more pleasant to use in every [TS]

00:32:14 ◼   ► possible way I like that it's smaller i [TS]

00:32:16 ◼   ► find it like in the gym taking it in and [TS]

00:32:18 ◼   ► out of my pocket to record like [TS]

00:32:20 ◼   ► exercises better across every single [TS]

00:32:24 ◼   ► axes i find this phone superior so great [TS]

00:32:28 ◼   ► i'm going to have a mechanical watch on [TS]

00:32:30 ◼   ► your wrist by Christmas little not [TS]

00:32:34 ◼   ► you will not my friend you will not to [TS]

00:32:38 ◼   ► our by next June I'm becoming concerned [TS]

00:32:43 ◼   ► with the amount of humility that golfers [TS]

00:32:46 ◼   ► are showing and it's being it's being [TS]

00:32:49 ◼   ► led by this guy who's one of the big hot [TS]

00:32:51 ◼   ► golfers of the moments got called Jordan [TS]

00:32:53 ◼   ► space and I know that he's not the only [TS]

00:32:55 ◼   ► one who does this but he's the one that [TS]

00:32:56 ◼   ► I really strongly notice doing this and [TS]

00:32:58 ◼   ► then there is referring to himself as [TS]

00:33:01 ◼   ► way and it and partly that's because he [TS]

00:33:06 ◼   ► has got a team of people and he has got [TS]

00:33:07 ◼   ► his caddy so when he's on the course [TS]

00:33:09 ◼   ► there is a real team teamwork between [TS]

00:33:10 ◼   ► the golfer in the caddy [TS]

00:33:12 ◼   ► I do get that and I do get that being a [TS]

00:33:14 ◼   ► professional golfer this day these days [TS]

00:33:16 ◼   ► isn't just like one person there is like [TS]

00:33:19 ◼   ► a team around you but this sort of [TS]

00:33:21 ◼   ► humbleness at the end of the round when [TS]

00:33:23 ◼   ► you do something good and saying yeah we [TS]

00:33:25 ◼   ► had a great day and we were really happy [TS]

00:33:27 ◼   ► with how we played when really there's [TS]

00:33:29 ◼   ► only one person striking the bowl and [TS]

00:33:30 ◼   ► doing these things sometimes seems a bit [TS]

00:33:33 ◼   ► disingenuous i'm not familiar with this [TS]

00:33:36 ◼   ► person would he would he really say a [TS]

00:33:38 ◼   ► sentence like that we had [TS]

00:33:40 ◼   ► yeah we had a really great day today and [TS]

00:33:42 ◼   ► and don't get me wrong he has got a [TS]

00:33:43 ◼   ► caddy standing next to him who is doing [TS]

00:33:45 ◼   ► more than just carrying his club's I do [TS]

00:33:47 ◼   ► understand the role of a caddy and [TS]

00:33:48 ◼   ► modern golf but still it reached as enna [TS]

00:33:51 ◼   ► at the recent masters tournament when it [TS]

00:33:53 ◼   ► was won by a guy called Danny Willett is [TS]

00:33:57 ◼   ► an English guy and he was being [TS]

00:34:00 ◼   ► interviewed afterwards he was obviously [TS]

00:34:02 ◼   ► trying to do the way thing which [TS]

00:34:04 ◼   ► obviously has become the thing to do now [TS]

00:34:05 ◼   ► he was talking about how we're really [TS]

00:34:07 ◼   ► happy way and he was sort of slipping [TS]

00:34:09 ◼   ► between we and I in this uncomfortable [TS]

00:34:12 ◼   ► way and it at reaching it reached [TS]

00:34:15 ◼   ► fascicle proportions when he was talking [TS]

00:34:18 ◼   ► about his parents and how much his [TS]

00:34:20 ◼   ► parents did for him when he was growing [TS]

00:34:21 ◼   ► up and he said that he said of his [TS]

00:34:24 ◼   ► parents he said I hope they're really [TS]

00:34:26 ◼   ► proud of the person we've become I don't [TS]

00:34:29 ◼   ► think even the Queen we'd use we in that [TS]

00:34:32 ◼   ► way [TS]

00:34:33 ◼   ► no but it does but it did it did remind [TS]

00:34:35 ◼   ► me that this is this is something that I [TS]

00:34:37 ◼   ► think we as in people like us gray can [TS]

00:34:41 ◼   ► be guilty of and I can be guilty of and [TS]

00:34:44 ◼   ► they there is I quite often use way home [TS]

00:34:48 ◼   ► when referring to things i'm doing like [TS]

00:34:51 ◼   ► if I'm talking about something at [TS]

00:34:53 ◼   ► numberphile or something that period [TS]

00:34:55 ◼   ► videos i will often use way and should i [TS]

00:34:58 ◼   ► be using I and partly using way because [TS]

00:35:02 ◼   ► I do work with all these other people [TS]

00:35:03 ◼   ► and there's all these people i feel- [TS]

00:35:04 ◼   ► huge team effort but if I'm sitting here [TS]

00:35:07 ◼   ► at my desk saying we love all these [TS]

00:35:09 ◼   ► tweets ending in and i'm the only one [TS]

00:35:11 ◼   ► reading them who knows about them [TS]

00:35:13 ◼   ► it is a little bit disingenuous of me to [TS]

00:35:15 ◼   ► be using way people like me who is sort [TS]

00:35:18 ◼   ► of individuals but work with other [TS]

00:35:20 ◼   ► people i sometimes get myself into a [TS]

00:35:22 ◼   ► tangle about when I should use way and I [TS]

00:35:24 ◼   ► wonder what you think about that but it [TS]

00:35:27 ◼   ► didn't really occur to me I mean there [TS]

00:35:28 ◼   ► are scenarios under which may be [TS]

00:35:30 ◼   ► theoretically this would be a problem [TS]

00:35:31 ◼   ► for me like with the star trek video [TS]

00:35:33 ◼   ► that i made we're connected all the [TS]

00:35:34 ◼   ► artwork but it wouldn't occur to me on [TS]

00:35:37 ◼   ► Twitter to say something like we are [TS]

00:35:40 ◼   ► really happy with the way the video is [TS]

00:35:43 ◼   ► being received like that that would that [TS]

00:35:45 ◼   ► would seem like i'm having some kind of [TS]

00:35:47 ◼   ► psychotic break to write a tweet in that [TS]

00:35:51 ◼   ► way even where it's a case like [TS]

00:35:52 ◼   ► obviously I didn't draw that artwork [TS]

00:35:54 ◼   ► I'm obviously not that talented but it [TS]

00:35:56 ◼   ► would seem so strange to use a wee in in [TS]

00:36:01 ◼   ► a scenario like that [TS]

00:36:02 ◼   ► yeah but I don't feel strange when our [TS]

00:36:05 ◼   ► to a tweet likes I'm tweeting under the [TS]

00:36:06 ◼   ► periodic videos banner which is you know [TS]

00:36:08 ◼   ► I work with all these professors and [TS]

00:36:10 ◼   ► chemists and stuff and if I say we're [TS]

00:36:13 ◼   ► really excited about the video we're [TS]

00:36:14 ◼   ► putting out tomorrow when i'm just [TS]

00:36:17 ◼   ► sitting at my desk on mine I haven't [TS]

00:36:18 ◼   ► spoken to the others for a week auto [TS]

00:36:20 ◼   ► right they don't know the videos even [TS]

00:36:22 ◼   ► coming out tomorrow right [TS]

00:36:23 ◼   ► it's just you and the dogs there yeah [TS]

00:36:25 ◼   ► yeah so and yeah I feel completely [TS]

00:36:28 ◼   ► comfortable saying that I do feel [TS]

00:36:29 ◼   ► completely comfortable referring to my [TS]

00:36:31 ◼   ► projects with a way [TS]

00:36:33 ◼   ► ok I think there's this couple things [TS]

00:36:34 ◼   ► that are different here that right [TS]

00:36:35 ◼   ► because one you're tweeting from the [TS]

00:36:38 ◼   ► periodic videos tweet right and and you [TS]

00:36:41 ◼   ► have a separate Brady Haran twitter that [TS]

00:36:44 ◼   ► is you as an individual [TS]

00:36:45 ◼   ► so this is periodic videos the corporate [TS]

00:36:48 ◼   ► entity talking about what everyone has [TS]

00:36:52 ◼   ► done [TS]

00:36:53 ◼   ► in the same way like we don't really use [TS]

00:36:55 ◼   ► this is that we have a whole lot of [TS]

00:36:57 ◼   ► sense it's all tangled in my friend you [TS]

00:36:59 ◼   ► you and I Brady you and I do not tweet [TS]

00:37:03 ◼   ► from the hello Internet twitter account [TS]

00:37:06 ◼   ► very often i don't think i would go on [TS]

00:37:09 ◼   ► to the hello Internet Twitter account [TS]

00:37:11 ◼   ► and make any kind of statement in the [TS]

00:37:13 ◼   ► first person I I don't think I would do [TS]

00:37:16 ◼   ► that right i think if i hit you and I [TS]

00:37:19 ◼   ► use the Twitter account to announce that [TS]

00:37:21 ◼   ► you and I are going to be recording an [TS]

00:37:23 ◼   ► episode i think i would use the word we [TS]

00:37:25 ◼   ► if I was tweeting from the hello [TS]

00:37:26 ◼   ► internet account we are going to be [TS]

00:37:28 ◼   ► recording tonight is there anything we [TS]

00:37:30 ◼   ► should talk about that seems very [TS]

00:37:31 ◼   ► natural because it's you and me right [TS]

00:37:34 ◼   ► yeah i think though where you run into [TS]

00:37:37 ◼   ► more trouble to hopefully poison your [TS]

00:37:39 ◼   ► mind to keep it is whenever you are [TS]

00:37:42 ◼   ► talking about any of your videos because [TS]

00:37:45 ◼   ► you are not on camera very often in most [TS]

00:37:49 ◼   ► of your projects objectivity is a [TS]

00:37:51 ◼   ► notable exception but for like on [TS]

00:37:53 ◼   ► numberphile you're behind the camera [TS]

00:37:54 ◼   ► most of the time [TS]

00:37:55 ◼   ► hmm you know sometimes the audience will [TS]

00:37:57 ◼   ► hear you ask a question right in that [TS]

00:37:58 ◼   ► you're there but the person you're [TS]

00:38:00 ◼   ► filming is the visual on-screen presence [TS]

00:38:05 ◼   ► yeah and you are the editing presence [TS]

00:38:08 ◼   ► and so it seems like it's almost [TS]

00:38:09 ◼   ► impossible for you to talk about any of [TS]

00:38:12 ◼   ► your number file like videos in anything [TS]

00:38:15 ◼   ► other than a week yeah because it's it's [TS]

00:38:17 ◼   ► so intrinsically a multi-person project [TS]

00:38:21 ◼   ► even though you are doing the filming [TS]

00:38:23 ◼   ► and you are doing the editing you aren't [TS]

00:38:26 ◼   ► really doing any of the explaining like [TS]

00:38:28 ◼   ► someone else's on camera doing the [TS]

00:38:30 ◼   ► talking like you're guiding that and [TS]

00:38:32 ◼   ► editing that it's obviously the two of [TS]

00:38:35 ◼   ► you so from now on you should never use [TS]

00:38:37 ◼   ► the first person singular when referring [TS]

00:38:38 ◼   ► to any of your videos like that you [TS]

00:38:40 ◼   ► should always usually that's what you [TS]

00:38:41 ◼   ► should do [TS]

00:38:42 ◼   ► yeah yeah even if you're tweeting from [TS]

00:38:46 ◼   ► from Brady Haran we are quite pleased [TS]

00:38:49 ◼   ► with the reception of the latest [TS]

00:38:50 ◼   ► numberphile video that's that's what you [TS]

00:38:52 ◼   ► should do from now on the main reason I [TS]

00:38:53 ◼   ► started that Brady Haran Twitter was I [TS]

00:38:55 ◼   ► was getting myself into such a pickle [TS]

00:38:57 ◼   ► with disentangling myself from they may [TS]

00:39:01 ◼   ► in being in projects but they're the [TS]

00:39:04 ◼   ► mask you're being another use of the [TS]

00:39:05 ◼   ► weave out [TS]

00:39:06 ◼   ► yeah what do you think when i say a [TS]

00:39:10 ◼   ► couple you know comes up to you and says [TS]

00:39:13 ◼   ► say it like at a dinner party something [TS]

00:39:15 ◼   ► they go we have an exciting announcement [TS]

00:39:17 ◼   ► we're pregnant what do you think about [TS]

00:39:19 ◼   ► that use of the way i am not a fan of it [TS]

00:39:22 ◼   ► I don't want to offend anyone but i [TS]

00:39:25 ◼   ► think i think only one person can be [TS]

00:39:28 ◼   ► pregnant in that scenario i appreciate [TS]

00:39:31 ◼   ► the Solidarity of it and if you choose [TS]

00:39:33 ◼   ► to do it i respect to X if someone came [TS]

00:39:36 ◼   ► up to me and said we're pregnant I [TS]

00:39:37 ◼   ► wouldn't laugh at them and say you're an [TS]

00:39:38 ◼   ► idiot [TS]

00:39:39 ◼   ► only she is but it's not it's not the [TS]

00:39:42 ◼   ► path i would choose yeah you wouldn't [TS]

00:39:44 ◼   ► you wouldn't go that way [TS]

00:39:45 ◼   ► no I i think it seems strange yeah but i [TS]

00:39:49 ◼   ► but I get it you know in the modern [TS]

00:39:51 ◼   ► world and look at you look at you being [TS]

00:39:52 ◼   ► all diplomatic you've got you know you [TS]

00:39:54 ◼   ► have to be sometimes you have to be I [TS]

00:39:56 ◼   ► don't think you have to be I I think [TS]

00:39:58 ◼   ► it's better to say that the individual [TS]

00:40:01 ◼   ► is pregnant was pregnant I guess if you [TS]

00:40:04 ◼   ► come up and say we're pregnant it takes [TS]

00:40:05 ◼   ► away my ability to make the host the [TS]

00:40:07 ◼   ► father joke [TS]

00:40:08 ◼   ► yeah yeah there it is that is that your [TS]

00:40:13 ◼   ► go-to very few people announced they're [TS]

00:40:15 ◼   ► pregnant father [TS]

00:40:19 ◼   ► it depends on the air depends on the on [TS]

00:40:22 ◼   ► the toad turn of the announcement I [TS]

00:40:24 ◼   ► think you could say we're having a baby [TS]

00:40:25 ◼   ► and I'd be really comfortable with that [TS]

00:40:27 ◼   ► no I think any one person can be [TS]

00:40:29 ◼   ► biologically pregnant I have no such [TS]

00:40:32 ◼   ► compulsion to avoid defense in this case [TS]

00:40:34 ◼   ► whenever I hear anyone say we're [TS]

00:40:37 ◼   ► pregnant [TS]

00:40:38 ◼   ► I just internally i'm thinking you know [TS]

00:40:41 ◼   ► how stupid you sound right now if you [TS]

00:40:43 ◼   ► think i know i don't like this is [TS]

00:40:45 ◼   ► supposed to be a moment where I'm really [TS]

00:40:46 ◼   ► happy for you but really internally i [TS]

00:40:48 ◼   ► can't help but the reflexive thought of [TS]

00:40:50 ◼   ► like you sound like idiots at this [TS]

00:40:52 ◼   ► moment right saying we're pregnant like [TS]

00:40:53 ◼   ► no you're not pregnant she's pregnant [TS]

00:40:55 ◼   ► you got her pregnant that's how this [TS]

00:40:57 ◼   ► works we are having a baby is the [TS]

00:41:00 ◼   ► appropriate way to phrase that you two [TS]

00:41:02 ◼   ► having a baby but the we're pregnant [TS]

00:41:04 ◼   ► thing it seems like bizarre over [TS]

00:41:08 ◼   ► solidarity aside from just being an [TS]

00:41:10 ◼   ► idiot like it's almost creepy like [TS]

00:41:12 ◼   ► there's something about it which is like [TS]

00:41:13 ◼   ► I don't know it's like it's too much man [TS]

00:41:16 ◼   ► this is a nice segue to Brady's papercut [TS]

00:41:19 ◼   ► because i haven't done it [TS]

00:41:20 ◼   ► ladies papercut for a while it's been [TS]

00:41:21 ◼   ► forever it has been over but my paper [TS]

00:41:25 ◼   ► cut that I wanted to bring up today is [TS]

00:41:26 ◼   ► also to do with the turn of phrase em [TS]

00:41:28 ◼   ► that works me and I want to see where [TS]

00:41:33 ◼   ► you stand up [TS]

00:41:34 ◼   ► mhm if something happens and you're not [TS]

00:41:39 ◼   ► particularly bothered by your shrugs [TS]

00:41:41 ◼   ► about it which is often your response to [TS]

00:41:43 ◼   ► it as saying you may use is I blank care [TS]

00:41:50 ◼   ► less what would the blank baby you there [TS]

00:41:52 ◼   ► couldn't care less [TS]

00:41:54 ◼   ► I couldn't care less thank you i know [TS]

00:41:56 ◼   ► lots of people say I could care less i [TS]

00:42:00 ◼   ► think this is an Americanism I don't [TS]

00:42:02 ◼   ► know and no man that annoys me because [TS]

00:42:04 ◼   ► it completely changes the meaning of the [TS]

00:42:06 ◼   ► what you sayin it's the opposite and it [TS]

00:42:10 ◼   ► takes away the impact saying i could not [TS]

00:42:12 ◼   ► care less is like funny saying I could [TS]

00:42:15 ◼   ► care less means there is scope for me to [TS]

00:42:18 ◼   ► care less so I do care to some extent [TS]

00:42:20 ◼   ► and it's taken away all the meaning [TS]

00:42:21 ◼   ► you're trying to give of being [TS]

00:42:23 ◼   ► completely different i agree i think [TS]

00:42:25 ◼   ► couldn't care less is the only [TS]

00:42:27 ◼   ► appropriate way to phrase this [TS]

00:42:28 ◼   ► Thank You there's no other way to phrase [TS]

00:42:30 ◼   ► this and yes it is almost [TS]

00:42:32 ◼   ► unintentionally hilarious that the [TS]

00:42:34 ◼   ► person gives the exact reverse of what [TS]

00:42:36 ◼   ► they are usually trying to say people do [TS]

00:42:38 ◼   ► all the time [TS]

00:42:39 ◼   ► oh I could care this really so you do [TS]

00:42:41 ◼   ► care do that's good [TS]

00:42:42 ◼   ► no I don't care what you just said you [TS]

00:42:44 ◼   ► could care less so that mean yeah i [TS]

00:42:47 ◼   ► think this is one of those cases where [TS]

00:42:48 ◼   ► in language you you often have cases [TS]

00:42:51 ◼   ► where people don't even hear or think [TS]

00:42:53 ◼   ► about the words they're saying there is [TS]

00:42:56 ◼   ► just a phrase that exists that expresses [TS]

00:42:58 ◼   ► a thing and the person is not thinking [TS]

00:43:01 ◼   ► about the actual words i just came [TS]

00:43:04 ◼   ► across something like this the other day [TS]

00:43:05 ◼   ► when i use some phrase and I had to stop [TS]

00:43:07 ◼   ► and I felt like what does that even mean [TS]

00:43:09 ◼   ► we could like these words that I've just [TS]

00:43:11 ◼   ► said i know the feeling that i'm trying [TS]

00:43:13 ◼   ► to express but has never occurred to me [TS]

00:43:14 ◼   ► to examine these actual words before I [TS]

00:43:17 ◼   ► really good example of that i always [TS]

00:43:20 ◼   ► think it's not phrase but a word is [TS]

00:43:22 ◼   ► breakfast like the word breakfast has [TS]

00:43:25 ◼   ► transcended breaking the fast now [TS]

00:43:27 ◼   ► moon and no one thinks of breaking fast [TS]

00:43:29 ◼   ► when they say breakfast breakfast its [TS]

00:43:31 ◼   ► own thing that [TS]

00:43:32 ◼   ► that transcends its origins that that's [TS]

00:43:35 ◼   ► a good way to put it [TS]

00:43:36 ◼   ► and I think maybe maybe Brady if you're [TS]

00:43:38 ◼   ► feeling in accepting food you should [TS]

00:43:39 ◼   ► accept I could care less as breakfast [TS]

00:43:43 ◼   ► that the person is you know what they're [TS]

00:43:45 ◼   ► trying to express and they're just using [TS]

00:43:48 ◼   ► a sequence of sounds to express that [TS]

00:43:49 ◼   ► idea [TS]

00:43:50 ◼   ► now now you know you're not gonna you're [TS]

00:43:53 ◼   ► not gonna go with that you know is that [TS]

00:43:55 ◼   ► it because of people started misspelling [TS]

00:43:57 ◼   ► breakfast I wouldn't just accept that [TS]

00:43:58 ◼   ► should do it like that I would not [TS]

00:44:02 ◼   ► accept that sir app because because the [TS]

00:44:07 ◼   ► thing about the thing is as well saying [TS]

00:44:10 ◼   ► when you say I couldn't care less [TS]

00:44:12 ◼   ► you are being smart ass like you are [TS]

00:44:15 ◼   ► being sassy when you say I couldn't care [TS]

00:44:16 ◼   ► less as you know on the internet when [TS]

00:44:18 ◼   ► you are a smart so when you're being [TS]

00:44:19 ◼   ► clever there is huge extra [TS]

00:44:21 ◼   ► responsibility on you to get things [TS]

00:44:23 ◼   ► right [TS]

00:44:24 ◼   ► that's a good point yeah like I'm sure [TS]

00:44:26 ◼   ► if you've ever written off as snarky [TS]

00:44:28 ◼   ► comment on whether or Twitter or YouTube [TS]

00:44:30 ◼   ► you check it and triple-checked yeah you [TS]

00:44:33 ◼   ► haven't made you haven't we haven't made [TS]

00:44:35 ◼   ► a spelling mistake you haven't because [TS]

00:44:36 ◼   ► nothing looks more stupid than being [TS]

00:44:38 ◼   ► snapped and mr. smartass and then being [TS]

00:44:40 ◼   ► wrong yourself so i think that's what it [TS]

00:44:42 ◼   ► is [TS]

00:44:42 ◼   ► whoa i could converse and they're being [TS]

00:44:46 ◼   ► they think they're being all that I feel [TS]

00:44:48 ◼   ► like saying well you have knob you just [TS]

00:44:51 ◼   ► said about i think you're right i think [TS]

00:44:53 ◼   ► you're right there's something like [TS]

00:44:55 ◼   ► intrinsically slacker teenager e about [TS]

00:44:58 ◼   ► the phrase I couldn't care less [TS]

00:45:01 ◼   ► that's the feeling that comes along with [TS]

00:45:02 ◼   ► that but her shoulder when you're being [TS]

00:45:04 ◼   ► snarky [TS]

00:45:05 ◼   ► you have to be on the ball is like [TS]

00:45:06 ◼   ► everybody's had the experience of giving [TS]

00:45:09 ◼   ► into their inner grammar nazi and [TS]

00:45:11 ◼   ► correcting someone about a picky point [TS]

00:45:13 ◼   ► and then discovering later to their [TS]

00:45:14 ◼   ► horror that they made an error in their [TS]

00:45:16 ◼   ► very corrections ya know I look like a [TS]

00:45:21 ◼   ► total moron denote the number of times [TS]

00:45:25 ◼   ► I've corrected someone effect like Oh [TS]

00:45:27 ◼   ► didn't you know everyone knows that [TS]

00:45:28 ◼   ► after spending eight hours researching [TS]

00:45:30 ◼   ► on the internet [TS]

00:45:38 ◼   ► thank you to squarespace for their [TS]

00:45:42 ◼   ► support of this podcast if you've never [TS]

00:45:44 ◼   ► used Squarespace i recommend you listen [TS]

00:45:47 ◼   ► for the next few seconds because it's [TS]

00:45:48 ◼   ► really worth hearing about them i have [TS]

00:45:50 ◼   ► to be used to find a little bit hard [TS]

00:45:52 ◼   ► explaining what Squarespace is I looked [TS]

00:45:55 ◼   ► it up on Wikipedia to see how it was [TS]

00:45:56 ◼   ► described there and there was called a [TS]

00:45:59 ◼   ► SAS based CMS which kind of makes sense [TS]

00:46:02 ◼   ► if you know what those things are but [TS]

00:46:03 ◼   ► still sounds kind of technical i [TS]

00:46:05 ◼   ► described as a website that lets you [TS]

00:46:08 ◼   ► make your own website now I round two [TS]

00:46:10 ◼   ► sites of our Squarespace my own blog and [TS]

00:46:12 ◼   ► the podcast postcard site and basically [TS]

00:46:15 ◼   ► I just log in and it gives me access to [TS]

00:46:17 ◼   ► the back end of both those websites [TS]

00:46:20 ◼   ► it's a really simple clean really cool [TS]

00:46:22 ◼   ► interface and from there I can add pages [TS]

00:46:24 ◼   ► i can update pages i can embed my [TS]

00:46:27 ◼   ► youtube videos insert pictures write [TS]

00:46:29 ◼   ► blog posts i can do anything on both the [TS]

00:46:32 ◼   ► website and within a few k stroke [TS]

00:46:34 ◼   ► sometimes the site's updated they look [TS]

00:46:36 ◼   ► great and they work on everyone's [TS]

00:46:38 ◼   ► devices and computers on mobile phones [TS]

00:46:41 ◼   ► that's all taken care of [TS]

00:46:42 ◼   ► behind-the-scenes Squarespace has got [TS]

00:46:44 ◼   ► great templates to get you started that [TS]

00:46:46 ◼   ► way you can rest assure your works going [TS]

00:46:48 ◼   ► to look professional but you can also [TS]

00:46:49 ◼   ► get into those templates and customize [TS]

00:46:51 ◼   ► them really tweak them to your heart's [TS]

00:46:53 ◼   ► content make the site look your own so [TS]

00:46:55 ◼   ► if you want to be more a part of the [TS]

00:46:57 ◼   ► internet maybe you want to blog a [TS]

00:46:58 ◼   ► portfolio maybe you want to start a shop [TS]

00:47:01 ◼   ► Squarespace is great for that to really [TS]

00:47:03 ◼   ► just give them a look give it a try [TS]

00:47:05 ◼   ► you can actually set up a practice site [TS]

00:47:07 ◼   ► without making any commitment just to [TS]

00:47:08 ◼   ► see how well it works for you that's [TS]

00:47:10 ◼   ► what I did the start if you like what [TS]

00:47:11 ◼   ► you say you can then get ten percent of [TS]

00:47:14 ◼   ► your first purchase by using the offer [TS]

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00:47:21 ◼   ► hello so they know you came from the [TS]

00:47:23 ◼   ► podcast Squarespace all one word with [TS]

00:47:26 ◼   ► the dot-com as i said i use it i know [TS]

00:47:28 ◼   ► gray users that we're really pleased to [TS]

00:47:30 ◼   ► have them as a sponsor of the show our [TS]

00:47:32 ◼   ► thanks to squarespace just a quick [TS]

00:47:35 ◼   ► mention by popular demand how [TS]

00:47:37 ◼   ► appropriate actually just as I started [TS]

00:47:38 ◼   ► that sentence i'm looking at my window [TS]

00:47:40 ◼   ► at a huge containership going along the [TS]

00:47:44 ◼   ► Bristol Channel because it's a red [TS]

00:47:45 ◼   ► container ship which is the same color [TS]

00:47:47 ◼   ► as this polar research vessel that is to [TS]

00:47:51 ◼   ► be [TS]

00:47:51 ◼   ► instructed by the British government I [TS]

00:47:53 ◼   ► believe to go and do science in li [TS]

00:47:58 ◼   ► Antarctica Antarctica and they decided [TS]

00:48:01 ◼   ► they would allow it to be named by the [TS]

00:48:03 ◼   ► public by sort of public suggestions and [TS]

00:48:06 ◼   ► public votes [TS]

00:48:07 ◼   ► hmmm what could possibly go wrong [TS]

00:48:10 ◼   ► everything everything could go wrong [TS]

00:48:12 ◼   ► people now you don't just open up a [TS]

00:48:14 ◼   ► collection to the internet that the [TS]

00:48:16 ◼   ► terrible idea exactly they made two [TS]

00:48:18 ◼   ► mistakes that you and I did not make [TS]

00:48:20 ◼   ► when we had a flag though [TS]

00:48:22 ◼   ► yeah because we're professionals so what [TS]

00:48:24 ◼   ► they did not do is create their own [TS]

00:48:25 ◼   ► short list which we did and another [TS]

00:48:28 ◼   ► thing they didn't do is put physical and [TS]

00:48:31 ◼   ► financial constraints between people and [TS]

00:48:33 ◼   ► their ability to vote which we did by [TS]

00:48:35 ◼   ► the postcards and because they made that [TS]

00:48:38 ◼   ► mistake the internet had fun with them [TS]

00:48:41 ◼   ► and by far and away the most popular [TS]

00:48:45 ◼   ► name that was suggested jokingly and [TS]

00:48:47 ◼   ► then received well over a hundred [TS]

00:48:49 ◼   ► thousand votes to win the pole was boaty [TS]

00:48:53 ◼   ► mcboatface which does not seem a very [TS]

00:48:59 ◼   ► great name for a you know a polar [TS]

00:49:03 ◼   ► exploration ship I think that we're [TS]

00:49:04 ◼   ► imagining would be won by something like [TS]

00:49:05 ◼   ► you know just Scott or they the her [TS]

00:49:08 ◼   ► Royal Highness or anthem of the Seas or [TS]

00:49:11 ◼   ► something suitably grad button but no [TS]

00:49:15 ◼   ► boaty mcboatface so obviously that I [TS]

00:49:17 ◼   ► think that the minister the government [TS]

00:49:19 ◼   ► minister has had to intervene and say [TS]

00:49:21 ◼   ► we're not going to call a podium at both [TS]

00:49:23 ◼   ► face I think that's been taken off the [TS]

00:49:25 ◼   ► table and I don't know what you think [TS]

00:49:27 ◼   ► about that gray ok well i mean as often [TS]

00:49:31 ◼   ► happens with hello Internet preparations [TS]

00:49:34 ◼   ► you bring up a thing and you say like oh [TS]

00:49:36 ◼   ► should we talk about this thing and then [TS]

00:49:37 ◼   ► i say i don't know what you're talking [TS]

00:49:39 ◼   ► about i've never heard about this thing [TS]

00:49:40 ◼   ► so this body mcboatface thing is new to [TS]

00:49:43 ◼   ► me as of literally an hour ago I had I [TS]

00:49:45 ◼   ► had never heard about this but you sent [TS]

00:49:48 ◼   ► me an article which says that would you [TS]

00:49:51 ◼   ► describe this internet election occurred [TS]

00:49:53 ◼   ► boaty mcboatface was selected but then [TS]

00:49:56 ◼   ► that the UK government is saying no [TS]

00:49:58 ◼   ► we're not going to name it bodean [TS]

00:49:59 ◼   ► mcboatface and and obviously I haven't [TS]

00:50:03 ◼   ► been following the story [TS]

00:50:04 ◼   ► but it feels like okay one UK government [TS]

00:50:08 ◼   ► you ran your election horribly for the [TS]

00:50:10 ◼   ► reasons mentioned before to you were the [TS]

00:50:16 ◼   ► luckiest bastards on the face of the [TS]

00:50:19 ◼   ► earth to get the name bode mcboatface I [TS]

00:50:22 ◼   ► could you know how horribly this could [TS]

00:50:23 ◼   ► have gone like Modi mcboatface you [TS]

00:50:27 ◼   ► should be kissing the ground that the [TS]

00:50:29 ◼   ► internet selected that name like that's [TS]

00:50:31 ◼   ► because it's like it's a fun name right [TS]

00:50:33 ◼   ► everybody can get behind it it's like a [TS]

00:50:36 ◼   ► look now you have this adorable Arctic [TS]

00:50:38 ◼   ► research mascot like Brody mcboatface [TS]

00:50:40 ◼   ► this is like the internet is you know [TS]

00:50:43 ◼   ► sometimes it can be horrible but this is [TS]

00:50:45 ◼   ► a moment where the Internet is blessing [TS]

00:50:47 ◼   ► you with a bit of hilarity and then you [TS]

00:50:50 ◼   ► make the final horrible step of coming [TS]

00:50:53 ◼   ► in like some grumpy parent and saying no [TS]

00:50:56 ◼   ► we can't call it Brody mcboatface we're [TS]

00:50:58 ◼   ► going to give it some serious name every [TS]

00:51:00 ◼   ► step of the way you have done this wrong [TS]

00:51:02 ◼   ► like roll with it if it's boaty [TS]

00:51:04 ◼   ► mcboatface migrate commissioned an [TS]

00:51:06 ◼   ► artist to paint gigantic cartoon letters [TS]

00:51:10 ◼   ► of Bodie mcboatface across the side of [TS]

00:51:12 ◼   ► this thing i like is i went to the fuck [TS]

00:51:14 ◼   ► yeah that's actually exactly you know [TS]

00:51:18 ◼   ► make the stovepipe like a little hat you [TS]

00:51:20 ◼   ► know do whatever you can do it would be [TS]

00:51:22 ◼   ► it would like this goal [TS]

00:51:24 ◼   ► this has got worldwide attention for [TS]

00:51:26 ◼   ► something that was no one would have [TS]

00:51:27 ◼   ► ever heard of people will flock to say [TS]

00:51:29 ◼   ► it whenever it comes into port [TS]

00:51:31 ◼   ► yeah like in Southampton wherever it is [TS]

00:51:33 ◼   ► to let you know restock before its next [TS]

00:51:35 ◼   ► mission people will come to see it [TS]

00:51:37 ◼   ► they'll have their photo taken with it [TS]

00:51:38 ◼   ► and that's a magnificent opportunity to [TS]

00:51:40 ◼   ► then say look I know it's got a funny [TS]

00:51:41 ◼   ► name [TS]

00:51:42 ◼   ► let us tell you a bit about the science [TS]

00:51:43 ◼   ► we're doing and like this was a you're [TS]

00:51:45 ◼   ► right this was a gift horse this kind of [TS]

00:51:47 ◼   ► backfired terribly and instead it became [TS]

00:51:49 ◼   ► this i'm actually surprised it didn't [TS]

00:51:51 ◼   ► get through the gray bubble because it [TS]

00:51:53 ◼   ► even became bit of a main for a few days [TS]

00:51:55 ◼   ► and and people were like were adopting [TS]

00:51:57 ◼   ► determine people would say our look it's [TS]

00:51:59 ◼   ► great grey face and let's go [TS]

00:52:03 ◼   ► you know people would work changing it [TS]

00:52:04 ◼   ► to whatever whatever they wanted that's [TS]

00:52:06 ◼   ► not this is the mutation that always [TS]

00:52:08 ◼   ► take this right here this was fantastic [TS]

00:52:11 ◼   ► and then to come to appear like you said [TS]

00:52:12 ◼   ► like a grumpy parent like to be so [TS]

00:52:14 ◼   ► draconian about it [TS]

00:52:16 ◼   ► I think I think that mr. trick and like [TS]

00:52:18 ◼   ► I kind of get if i was spending hundreds [TS]

00:52:20 ◼   ► of millions of pounds on a ship that was [TS]

00:52:22 ◼   ► really proud of and I had and I thought [TS]

00:52:25 ◼   ► it was going to have a magnificent night [TS]

00:52:26 ◼   ► and I had a silly night i might think [TS]

00:52:28 ◼   ► yeah yeah but that but if you did that's [TS]

00:52:31 ◼   ► because you're a grump with no sense of [TS]

00:52:32 ◼   ► humor or delight or anything like that [TS]

00:52:35 ◼   ► and that's why because they're your [TS]

00:52:37 ◼   ► government commission or something dumb [TS]

00:52:39 ◼   ► and you don't understand how the world [TS]

00:52:41 ◼   ► works and what's delights and sparks [TS]

00:52:44 ◼   ► people's interest right that's probably [TS]

00:52:46 ◼   ► why you're in the position that you're [TS]

00:52:47 ◼   ► in right now that's probably why you ran [TS]

00:52:50 ◼   ► this internet election the way that you [TS]

00:52:51 ◼   ► didn't like the most cursory of research [TS]

00:52:54 ◼   ► would have revealed that this would be a [TS]

00:52:56 ◼   ► terrible way to run into an election [TS]

00:52:58 ◼   ► like this is not the first time someone [TS]

00:53:00 ◼   ► has opened up with something to the [TS]

00:53:02 ◼   ► public for the internet to vote on it [TS]

00:53:03 ◼   ► was like guess what they truly do the [TS]

00:53:05 ◼   ► thing that you want them to do like [TS]

00:53:07 ◼   ► almost by definition you are going to [TS]

00:53:09 ◼   ► get opposite results from what you want [TS]

00:53:11 ◼   ► the first one of these I can ever [TS]

00:53:12 ◼   ► remember is this is ages ago but the [TS]

00:53:16 ◼   ► first one was it [TS]

00:53:18 ◼   ► I think was t-shirt hell but this guy [TS]

00:53:20 ◼   ► who ran this t-shirt selling company he [TS]

00:53:23 ◼   ► ran a poll on the internets to change [TS]

00:53:25 ◼   ► his name like he didn't like his name [TS]

00:53:27 ◼   ► anything at all that the internet select [TS]

00:53:28 ◼   ► my name and now he's named sunshine [TS]

00:53:31 ◼   ► Megatron I think that's like this is [TS]

00:53:35 ◼   ► what happens it huh yeah like whether [TS]

00:53:39 ◼   ► there's like a a now decade-plus history [TS]

00:53:42 ◼   ► of this kind of nonsense happening [TS]

00:53:44 ◼   ► yeah i don't i also wonder how many [TS]

00:53:47 ◼   ► times they're gonna have to paint over [TS]

00:53:49 ◼   ► someone breaking into the docks in the [TS]

00:53:51 ◼   ► middle of the night putting proteomic [TS]

00:53:53 ◼   ► place on the side of the thing anyway [TS]

00:53:54 ◼   ► now [TS]

00:53:54 ◼   ► yeah that's exactly what's gonna happen [TS]

00:53:56 ◼   ► mr. splashy pants was another one of [TS]

00:53:58 ◼   ► these things where Greenpeace had some [TS]

00:54:00 ◼   ► internet name to pick like a humpback [TS]

00:54:03 ◼   ► whale they wanted to name and of course [TS]

00:54:05 ◼   ► it comes with mr. splashy pants and it [TS]

00:54:07 ◼   ► was a similar thing about like there was [TS]

00:54:08 ◼   ► no there was some pushback about it like [TS]

00:54:10 ◼   ► this is a long time ago this is one of [TS]

00:54:11 ◼   ► like the earlier [TS]

00:54:13 ◼   ► reddit history kind of things like this [TS]

00:54:16 ◼   ► is always what's going to happen like [TS]

00:54:17 ◼   ► you're gonna do you want the internet [TS]

00:54:19 ◼   ► and name your thing like be careful what [TS]

00:54:20 ◼   ► you wish for [TS]

00:54:21 ◼   ► but if they're going to name it like for [TS]

00:54:22 ◼   ► the love of God don't go against what [TS]

00:54:24 ◼   ► they you just like you're guaranteed [TS]

00:54:27 ◼   ► just to make everybody angry and I agree [TS]

00:54:29 ◼   ► with you I wouldn't be the least bit [TS]

00:54:31 ◼   ► surprised if they end up having to deal [TS]

00:54:33 ◼   ► with vandalism like people spray-painted [TS]

00:54:36 ◼   ► nobody mcboatface lives across the side [TS]

00:54:39 ◼   ► of the but it's interesting seeing like [TS]

00:54:41 ◼   ► big organizations interact with the [TS]

00:54:43 ◼   ► internet and always just feels like you [TS]

00:54:45 ◼   ► guys know what you're doing like is [TS]

00:54:46 ◼   ► there anyone on your staff who's ever [TS]

00:54:47 ◼   ► been on the internet the kids you think [TS]

00:54:49 ◼   ► this through to take the other side for [TS]

00:54:51 ◼   ► a minute because it's only fair and I do [TS]

00:54:54 ◼   ► see the other side [TS]

00:54:55 ◼   ► hmm this is like a funny joke for a week [TS]

00:54:58 ◼   ► or two but like you hadn't heard of it [TS]

00:55:00 ◼   ► and the joke will go away and we'll [TS]

00:55:01 ◼   ► forget about it in a few weeks this boat [TS]

00:55:04 ◼   ► sorry it's not actually about which is [TS]

00:55:06 ◼   ► another issue this ship would be built [TS]

00:55:08 ◼   ► for another couple of years and then it [TS]

00:55:10 ◼   ► will probably be in service for 20 or 30 [TS]

00:55:13 ◼   ► years is that is that right to have this [TS]

00:55:16 ◼   ► this flash-in-the-pan joke on the side [TS]

00:55:19 ◼   ► of the ship for all that time when you [TS]

00:55:21 ◼   ► could do something a bit more dignified [TS]

00:55:23 ◼   ► cold call at the david attenborough [TS]

00:55:25 ◼   ► somethin okay let me ask you something [TS]

00:55:27 ◼   ► how many boats in the world can you name [TS]

00:55:30 ◼   ► well yeah yeah I I only a handful right [TS]

00:55:35 ◼   ► but they all have very majestic names [TS]

00:55:37 ◼   ► like the Queen Mary and and the Queen [TS]

00:55:40 ◼   ► Elizabeth and things like that they [TS]

00:55:42 ◼   ► don't have names like silly Mick [TS]

00:55:44 ◼   ► silliness right but the thing is the [TS]

00:55:47 ◼   ► majestic names don't guarantee [TS]

00:55:49 ◼   ► notability because every boat has some [TS]

00:55:52 ◼   ► majestic name right [TS]

00:55:54 ◼   ► this is this is one way that this boat [TS]

00:55:57 ◼   ► will at least be remembered and known [TS]

00:55:59 ◼   ► about for a long period of time [TS]

00:56:01 ◼   ► this makes it stand out like it's a [TS]

00:56:03 ◼   ► funny thing it's a it's a bit of fun [TS]

00:56:04 ◼   ► history that goes along with it makes it [TS]

00:56:06 ◼   ► unique among the boats i don't agree [TS]

00:56:08 ◼   ► with the like over 30 years from now [TS]

00:56:10 ◼   ► we're going to have to be telling a [TS]

00:56:12 ◼   ► story about how we're an internet poll [TS]

00:56:13 ◼   ► in the name of protein mcboatface like [TS]

00:56:15 ◼   ► that's that's part of the fun of it i [TS]

00:56:17 ◼   ► think that's what makes it unique [TS]

00:56:18 ◼   ► I didn't I cry out about it let me argue [TS]

00:56:20 ◼   ► the point then I think it's incumbent on [TS]

00:56:23 ◼   ► leaders and people in position [TS]

00:56:25 ◼   ► of authority to think beyond and Mimi [TS]

00:56:29 ◼   ► joke for a couple of weeks [TS]

00:56:30 ◼   ► it's easy for you and I to see here [TS]

00:56:32 ◼   ► don't get me wrong i know i've been [TS]

00:56:34 ◼   ► saying they should call the boat in my [TS]

00:56:35 ◼   ► face but it's easy for you and I to sit [TS]

00:56:37 ◼   ► here and think it amuses us and it has [TS]

00:56:40 ◼   ► amused the internet let's do it [TS]

00:56:42 ◼   ► whereas there are other people who have [TS]

00:56:43 ◼   ► to think about other considerations I [TS]

00:56:45 ◼   ► mean in 10 years the people who run this [TS]

00:56:48 ◼   ► ship are going to be applying to a [TS]

00:56:50 ◼   ► different government in a different time [TS]

00:56:51 ◼   ► in a different area to a different [TS]

00:56:53 ◼   ► funding body saying can we have 20 [TS]

00:56:55 ◼   ► million dollars for our penguin research [TS]

00:56:57 ◼   ► aboard the botty mcboatface and I think [TS]

00:57:01 ◼   ► and I think and that's going to hurt [TS]

00:57:02 ◼   ► them [TS]

00:57:03 ◼   ► that's gonna hurt him because of a jokey [TS]

00:57:05 ◼   ► decision that's made now whereas if they [TS]

00:57:07 ◼   ► said can we will it hurt them though I [TS]

00:57:09 ◼   ► don't think that's a guaranteed thing i [TS]

00:57:11 ◼   ► don't know i think could I think I think [TS]

00:57:14 ◼   ► people who bequeathed large sums of [TS]

00:57:16 ◼   ► money and her allocate funds are drawn [TS]

00:57:20 ◼   ► to integrity and seriousness more than [TS]

00:57:24 ◼   ► they are to joke eNOS and and flippant [TS]

00:57:27 ◼   ► things and I think labeling at boaty [TS]

00:57:29 ◼   ► mcboatface for all time will always be a [TS]

00:57:33 ◼   ► bit of a wink-wink [TS]

00:57:35 ◼   ► are they serious but don't you want to [TS]

00:57:37 ◼   ► stand out in the application pile i [TS]

00:57:38 ◼   ► think that the legitimate argument well [TS]

00:57:40 ◼   ► yeah you could stand out in the [TS]

00:57:42 ◼   ► application power by dressing up as a [TS]

00:57:44 ◼   ► clown as well standing out doesn't [TS]

00:57:46 ◼   ► always mean success [TS]

00:57:48 ◼   ► nope sure doesn't I do see the other [TS]

00:57:50 ◼   ► argument I do i do think go with it [TS]

00:57:53 ◼   ► might mind over all things considered I [TS]

00:57:55 ◼   ► don't say roll with it [TS]

00:57:57 ◼   ► not such a bad name that it's gonna hurt [TS]

00:57:59 ◼   ► you forever it's not like you know they [TS]

00:58:00 ◼   ► said that's called the Adolf Hitler yeah [TS]

00:58:02 ◼   ► but but i do even even the adults Hitler [TS]

00:58:06 ◼   ► I would feel like you got off lucky [TS]

00:58:08 ◼   ► right yeah well I could have said [TS]

00:58:10 ◼   ► something else but i probably contravene [TS]

00:58:12 ◼   ► some of my yeah i mean that we're [TS]

00:58:13 ◼   ► policies like yeah he could be called [TS]

00:58:15 ◼   ► like the cup make peace with yourself [TS]

00:58:18 ◼   ► but right like that's what I could [TS]

00:58:19 ◼   ► recall i think it is you feel quite sure [TS]

00:58:21 ◼   ► of baits for the episode there [TS]