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00:00:00   go on do it one day on Dave you dare me [TS]

00:00:03   don't do you can't turn down the double [TS]

00:00:06   dog dare instead of our usual claps [TS]

00:00:10   great i'm gonna give you a different [TS]

00:00:11   noise so you're ready [TS]

00:00:12   why do you say it will still give you [TS]

00:00:14   nice Peaks on the way for the last time [TS]

00:00:16   you did this you give me some horrible [TS]

00:00:17   sound that did not give me nice nice plz [TS]

00:00:19   with this engine is often about it [TS]

00:00:21   listen to this and see if you can guess [TS]

00:00:22   what it is okay okay first of all like [TS]

00:00:27   that's not an i speak sound it's mushy [TS]

00:00:29   already know but you can see can see [TS]

00:00:31   three distinct lines on your waveform so [TS]

00:00:33   you can clearly sync up with that i'm [TS]

00:00:34   doing i am hitting the microphone with [TS]

00:00:37   one of my christmas presence we have [TS]

00:00:39   which is my meteorite who gave you a [TS]

00:00:42   meteorite it was from my wife [TS]

00:00:44   oh that's very nice and it sits on my [TS]

00:00:46   desk in a little box on a little velvet [TS]

00:00:48   pillow and whenever I want when I feel [TS]

00:00:51   like I want inspiration I can just reach [TS]

00:00:52   down and hold a piece of space in my [TS]

00:00:54   hand [TS]

00:00:55   yeah does that help you do get inspired [TS]

00:00:56   by holding space in your hand I would [TS]

00:00:58   say not so much [TS]

00:01:01   oh but it does feel very nice and you [TS]

00:01:05   know I like fiddling with things and [TS]

00:01:06   it's and it's it's weighty and it's [TS]

00:01:09   interesting texture that looks cool say [TS]

00:01:12   it brings me pleasure i'm happy that it [TS]

00:01:15   brings you pleasure and I would much [TS]

00:01:17   rather have you filling meteorites then [TS]

00:01:21   just before we started recording you [TS]

00:01:22   have what looks to me like new [TS]

00:01:24   soundproofing equipment in front of you [TS]

00:01:26   too [TS]

00:01:26   sounds nicer on the microphone and you [TS]

00:01:28   are fiddling with the soundproofing to [TS]

00:01:30   make the soundproofing make noise is [TS]

00:01:33   just is like an astounding thing to [TS]

00:01:35   watch you do so i would much prefer that [TS]

00:01:38   you fiddle with the meteorite but i love [TS]

00:01:39   that you make the thing that is there to [TS]

00:01:41   make less sound you make it make more [TS]

00:01:43   sound with your filling up we have to [TS]

00:01:45   let people here at now this is what it [TS]

00:01:46   sounds like when I rub my finger at [TS]

00:01:48   along the soundproofing [TS]

00:01:50   yeah yeah this is this so this people is [TS]

00:01:54   what he was doing [TS]

00:01:55   just while he was talking to me just [TS]

00:01:57   rubbing his fingers against the lovely [TS]

00:01:59   soundproofing so fucking with play with [TS]

00:02:01   your meteorite Brady is such an older [TS]

00:02:03   great if you are more interesting and [TS]

00:02:05   engaging I wouldn't be looking elsewhere [TS]

00:02:07   for distractions oh yes I'm sure that [TS]

00:02:09   what it is that if you didn't who are [TS]

00:02:11   just solid as a rock right motionless [TS]

00:02:15   like a like a like a marble statue when [TS]

00:02:18   you're talking to someone more engaging [TS]

00:02:20   than I have and I have a high capacity [TS]

00:02:23   to take in stuff and do stuff and you're [TS]

00:02:26   not you're not satisfying me great like [TS]

00:02:28   I'm just not stimulating enough you're [TS]

00:02:31   like an artificial intelligence and ya [TS]

00:02:33   talkin to me is just occupying a tiny [TS]

00:02:36   part of your brain exactly like you're [TS]

00:02:37   talking and light years and passing in [TS]

00:02:40   my brain [TS]

00:02:41   speaking of years passing happy 2016 and [TS]

00:02:45   all that [TS]

00:02:45   yeah happy 2016 Brady how did you see in [TS]

00:02:49   the new year with you at all really [TS]

00:02:52   ok ok because i know this is going to [TS]

00:02:54   infuriate you and I i went to sleep [TS]

00:02:58   no joke three minutes before the [TS]

00:03:02   changeover community here before this [TS]

00:03:06   thing is in our current apartment we [TS]

00:03:08   have a nice view to the sky in London [TS]

00:03:11   that we could theoretically see all the [TS]

00:03:12   fireworks are I say theoretically [TS]

00:03:14   because of course my wife did see all [TS]

00:03:16   the fireworks but 757 i was sitting on [TS]

00:03:20   the couch thinking I'm just too tired [TS]

00:03:23   just have people back went to bed okay [TS]

00:03:26   that is a bit sad they're not even just [TS]

00:03:28   fell asleep [TS]

00:03:29   fair enough but you actually consciously [TS]

00:03:31   said I cannot sit here for three more [TS]

00:03:32   minutes i am walking to my bed now [TS]

00:03:34   yeah i got into bed and I close my eyes [TS]

00:03:37   and I sort of heard the fireworks as i [TS]

00:03:39   drifted off to sleep almost immediately [TS]

00:03:41   I think that has to be a record for me [TS]

00:03:45   of the closest I have ever come to the [TS]

00:03:48   New Year's changeover without actually [TS]

00:03:50   making it to the other side [TS]

00:03:51   I mean that doesn't infuriate me that is [TS]

00:03:53   a bit tragic isn't it like to be so [TS]

00:03:55   close and you could have just had a look [TS]

00:03:57   I think that's tragic to stay up when [TS]

00:04:00   you're tired yeah okay I'm not gonna I'm [TS]

00:04:03   not gonna argue with you i mean [TS]

00:04:04   I think people i think it's becoming a [TS]

00:04:06   bit of a a trendy thing now to say our I [TS]

00:04:08   did nothing or I went to sleep and stuff [TS]

00:04:10   so I mean this is not uncommon now I [TS]

00:04:13   think people almost wear it as a badge [TS]

00:04:14   of honor to say oh I did nothing for you [TS]

00:04:16   you know New Year's so overrated so [TS]

00:04:18   overhyped so I just stayed in and [TS]

00:04:20   watched a TV and went to bed at ten [TS]

00:04:22   thirty [TS]

00:04:23   yeah i watch house of cards that's the [TS]

00:04:25   thing is that the voice that they use [TS]

00:04:27   when they say that [TS]

00:04:28   yeah that'sthat's pretentious voice well [TS]

00:04:30   I can't I can't be doing with new year [TS]

00:04:32   oh gosh i prefer to celebrate the [TS]

00:04:35   Nepalese new year in may I like this new [TS]

00:04:38   voice of yours at least that it's a [TS]

00:04:39   little bit of variety variety from nerd [TS]

00:04:41   boys I'm the man of a thousand voices [TS]

00:04:43   yeah well I know of to now so yeah ik [TS]

00:04:46   I'm the man of two voices but that [TS]

00:04:48   doesn't sound quite as cool [TS]

00:04:49   no it doesn't sound quite at school what [TS]

00:04:51   about You Brady how did you ring in the [TS]

00:04:52   New Year I running in the new year in a [TS]

00:04:56   ready maroon velvet jacket [TS]

00:04:59   oh wow partying in the Moulin Rouge in [TS]

00:05:02   Paris that is quite the contrast is [TS]

00:05:06   correct show didn't start until midnight [TS]

00:05:08   oh god really weird like a fancy dinner [TS]

00:05:10   and like cabaret singing which was which [TS]

00:05:13   is found and then it at new year they [TS]

00:05:15   came up on stage the sort of the hosts [TS]

00:05:17   they actually came on at like five past [TS]

00:05:20   which everyone you because we all had [TS]

00:05:21   iphone so we already knew that mr. new [TS]

00:05:23   year but about five past twelve they did [TS]

00:05:25   like they did this faux count down from [TS]

00:05:27   ten nine eight seven which just started [TS]

00:05:29   arbitrarily when they felt like it and [TS]

00:05:32   then there was that you know [TS]

00:05:33   pyrotechnics and that and then let the [TS]

00:05:35   moonroof show started for two hours of [TS]

00:05:38   you know glamorous people dancing around [TS]

00:05:40   with far too little clothes on and [TS]

00:05:42   people swimming with snakes and jugglers [TS]

00:05:45   and mime artists and all the crazy [TS]

00:05:47   campus there is a moon Landrieu show [TS]

00:05:49   there was a bit of dancing with masks [TS]

00:05:52   and crazy hats and horns and then back [TS]

00:05:56   to the hotel [TS]

00:05:57   that does sound like quite the New [TS]

00:05:58   Year's it was much better than I [TS]

00:06:00   expected [TS]

00:06:01   that's quite the new year really that's [TS]

00:06:02   quite the year while you slept [TS]

00:06:04   I was spilling not one but two glasses [TS]

00:06:07   of champagne all over my wife's lovely [TS]

00:06:08   dress [TS]

00:06:09   Oh Nazy nicely done it was it was a [TS]

00:06:12   little bit cramped at the stables and a [TS]

00:06:14   bit clumsy but she was cool she has to [TS]

00:06:16   be living with [TS]

00:06:17   aight man yeah you go someplace fancy [TS]

00:06:19   Brady spilled champagne all over ya and [TS]

00:06:23   Christmas was being a write-off because [TS]

00:06:25   of work reasons but what up asset [TS]

00:06:28   Christmas was celebrated on Boxing Day [TS]

00:06:29   with the grace [TS]

00:06:31   yes it's lovely it was lovely we got [TS]

00:06:34   together for Christmas in London boxing [TS]

00:06:38   in London but it's Christmas enough [TS]

00:06:40   secret is the whole Christmas season [TS]

00:06:41   Christmas dinner walk the dogs watch to [TS]

00:06:45   be a rubbish TV they put the world to [TS]

00:06:47   rights or whatever it is when you just [TS]

00:06:48   talk about rubbish four hours it was one [TS]

00:06:50   of those just enjoyable days of just [TS]

00:06:51   hanging out together and just eating a [TS]

00:06:54   lovely dinner it was it was very nice [TS]

00:06:56   it was a very nice boxing day to spend [TS]

00:06:58   with the Bradys Brady so if I like that [TS]

00:07:03   if now do you have any big plans for [TS]

00:07:06   2016 braiding there anything big [TS]

00:07:09   happening in 2016 that you want to talk [TS]

00:07:11   about 2016 is is going to be an official [TS]

00:07:14   year of fun for me with lots of cool [TS]

00:07:16   travels and adventures and I want to [TS]

00:07:17   travel more and see more stuff and why [TS]

00:07:20   is it going to be the year of fun for [TS]

00:07:21   you Brady because it just is no yeah [TS]

00:07:24   it's that whole yeah we're just going to [TS]

00:07:26   leave it at that okay yeah yeah and [TS]

00:07:29   we're not talking about birthdays or [TS]

00:07:30   anything like that [TS]

00:07:31   ok say it alright alright what is the [TS]

00:07:35   year fun it's a year fun [TS]

00:07:38   yeah for no particular reason and no [TS]

00:07:40   particular reason out anything anything [TS]

00:07:43   bigger anything [TS]

00:07:44   no no not know nothing big ceaseless [TS]

00:07:48   approach of death every easy class at [TS]

00:07:51   there it is completely unrelated to this [TS]

00:07:54   discussion about birthdays [TS]

00:07:55   do you have an opinion about when [TS]

00:07:57   middle-aged officially starts that is a [TS]

00:08:02   thing that constantly shift as you get [TS]

00:08:05   older [TS]

00:08:06   mmm i made of our I'm at a point now [TS]

00:08:08   where middle-aged starts in ten years [TS]

00:08:11   all the time right [TS]

00:08:12   it's like it's 10 years away and it's [TS]

00:08:14   and it's moving at one year per year [TS]

00:08:16   away from away [TS]

00:08:19   it would never be caught and it's not [TS]

00:08:22   getting closer either i feel that that [TS]

00:08:26   is intellectually dishonest but also [TS]

00:08:28   entirely understandable [TS]

00:08:30   Wendy believe it stats mr. rational and [TS]

00:08:33   narrative all 40 has to be middle-aged I [TS]

00:08:38   think that that's probably the best time [TS]

00:08:40   to put it and really 40 is being [TS]

00:08:42   somewhat optimistic because most people [TS]

00:08:45   don't actually live until 82 live [TS]

00:08:48   slightly younger than that so maybe like [TS]

00:08:49   39 maybe even 38 is middle-aged but i [TS]

00:08:53   think by the time you're 40 you there's [TS]

00:08:55   no there's no denying it anymore that's [TS]

00:08:57   middle-aged so you're defining [TS]

00:08:59   middle-aged to pick almost what it says [TS]

00:09:02   on the tin middle [TS]

00:09:03   yeah the midpoint of life I'm taking [TS]

00:09:05   this totally crazy path of assuming that [TS]

00:09:08   the word means what it means which is [TS]

00:09:10   the middle of of your age sea I think it [TS]

00:09:12   could mean different things and do you [TS]

00:09:15   count those first 10 years in your [TS]

00:09:16   equations and you know is that the [TS]

00:09:18   middle of your ad out life is that the [TS]

00:09:20   middle is it just the middle of the [TS]

00:09:21   number of days your heart has been [TS]

00:09:23   baiting tonight I think 40 works both [TS]

00:09:25   ways that right because ok when people [TS]

00:09:28   are in their forties this is usually at [TS]

00:09:31   the period of time where if they have a [TS]

00:09:32   family they're going to have a family [TS]

00:09:34   like when I think when I was a kid all [TS]

00:09:36   of the parents that I knew they were all [TS]

00:09:38   in their forties and it seems like oh [TS]

00:09:40   this is this middle phase of a human's [TS]

00:09:42   life like you were a kid and then you [TS]

00:09:44   grew up and you were a young adult for a [TS]

00:09:46   while and now when you have a family and [TS]

00:09:49   you're in your forties that's [TS]

00:09:50   middle-aged and then immediately after [TS]

00:09:53   middle-aged comes death that's how i [TS]

00:09:55   made it we have rights no there's no [TS]

00:09:57   there's not like a sort of a sunset [TS]

00:09:59   period or anything it's just middle-aged [TS]

00:10:01   and then bang against the world yeah [TS]

00:10:02   it's all it's all over it's all over [TS]

00:10:04   after that [TS]

00:10:05   that's how that works so having [TS]

00:10:07   clarified where Middle Ages what should [TS]

00:10:10   one attitude beta reaching Middle Ages [TS]

00:10:12   this a time of celebration is at a time [TS]

00:10:15   of mourning is it just a met what should [TS]

00:10:19   one think when one reaches the age of 40 [TS]

00:10:21   I don't know I I i have no idea i'm not [TS]

00:10:25   there yet [TS]

00:10:25   well neither am I [TS]

00:10:28   I didn't say that you were ready and say [TS]

00:10:30   that you were the thing is you should [TS]

00:10:32   probably you should probably find [TS]

00:10:34   someone in middle age I'm just like the [TS]

00:10:36   general you not you but like you know [TS]

00:10:37   you dear listeners should find someone [TS]

00:10:40   middle-aged and ask them what they think [TS]

00:10:42   about that because you can't you can't [TS]

00:10:43   expect you late in the future it's just [TS]

00:10:45   like oh I could give advice to people [TS]

00:10:47   who were younger than me but it's hard [TS]

00:10:49   to give advice to people who are older [TS]

00:10:51   than me so yeah I think maybe we should [TS]

00:10:54   we should hear from our audience what [TS]

00:10:56   should people in middle-aged think [TS]

00:10:58   that's an interesting thing you just [TS]

00:10:59   said that I does advice only flow down [TS]

00:11:03   can young people not involved I mean of [TS]

00:11:05   course they can advise our people but [TS]

00:11:07   can young people legitimately advise [TS]

00:11:10   other people or can advise only flow [TS]

00:11:12   from the out to the young i'm thinking [TS]

00:11:14   in terms of general life advice [TS]

00:11:18   there's some term for it but it does [TS]

00:11:19   seem to be that people go through [TS]

00:11:23   different psychological experiences like [TS]

00:11:26   in sections of decades as they grow [TS]

00:11:29   older and I think for that kind of thing [TS]

00:11:32   you can only talk to someone who is [TS]

00:11:34   older than you want to who has gone [TS]

00:11:36   through it i was reading this article [TS]

00:11:37   which was talking about human happiness [TS]

00:11:41   over the course of life and how it does [TS]

00:11:43   seem to follow a u-shape that you're [TS]

00:11:47   happier when you're younger happiness [TS]

00:11:49   seems to minimize in the middle of your [TS]

00:11:52   life in the term middle-aged sort of in [TS]

00:11:55   your forties let's say and then after [TS]

00:11:58   your forties it goes up but that it's [TS]

00:12:01   very common for people in middle age to [TS]

00:12:04   have this feeling of oh is this all [TS]

00:12:08   there is to my life or like knowing that [TS]

00:12:10   it's unlikely that they're going to have [TS]

00:12:12   another big career changer or something [TS]

00:12:14   like that so I think for this kind of [TS]

00:12:16   general life advice [TS]

00:12:18   it can only flow downhill mm I think [TS]

00:12:21   like when I was in my twenties I went [TS]

00:12:23   through a kind of I think the cool kids [TS]

00:12:25   these days called a quarter life crisis [TS]

00:12:27   where I remember in my early twenties [TS]

00:12:29   having a real feeling of like oh god [TS]

00:12:31   what is going to happen with my life I'm [TS]

00:12:33   just unemployed and I have no idea what [TS]

00:12:37   I'm going to do and I feel like oh if I [TS]

00:12:40   was talking to someone in their 20 [TS]

00:12:42   I might have useful things to say to [TS]

00:12:43   that person but I have nothing useful to [TS]

00:12:45   say to someone in their forties like I [TS]

00:12:47   wouldn't be able to necessarily advise [TS]

00:12:49   them I think they would need to talk to [TS]

00:12:50   someone in their fifties who would who [TS]

00:12:52   had gone through whatever they're going [TS]

00:12:54   through [TS]

00:12:54   do you think maybe it's not possible [TS]

00:12:55   that when you get older you sort of [TS]

00:12:57   forget things or you like you your your [TS]

00:13:01   hard drive and your gets so cluttered [TS]

00:13:03   with rubbish you you forget certain [TS]

00:13:05   things that can no longer access certain [TS]

00:13:06   things that the young people can and [TS]

00:13:09   they could sort of say to you know what [TS]

00:13:10   you should try this sickness and the old [TS]

00:13:12   person might say oh I forgot what it was [TS]

00:13:14   like to think like that and you're right [TS]

00:13:16   that is good advice that will help me [TS]

00:13:17   out of this situation we do know that [TS]

00:13:19   brains decay as time goes on that you're [TS]

00:13:22   just slowly falling apart as as time [TS]

00:13:26   goes on but i don't know i think there [TS]

00:13:28   is something about the experiences that [TS]

00:13:33   someone has been through just as as [TS]

00:13:34   general life advice that you have to [TS]

00:13:37   talk to someone who was older I mean [TS]

00:13:38   yeah many your experience can only go up [TS]

00:13:40   as long as you don't forget it all [TS]

00:13:42   what you do it's interesting to hear [TS]

00:13:44   that you think i'm pretty much getting [TS]

00:13:45   to the bottom of the you [TS]

00:13:46   iiiii didn't say anything about your age [TS]

00:13:48   of particular baby you are saying that [TS]

00:13:50   you're going to the bottom of you I feel [TS]

00:13:51   like I kept quite happy [TS]

00:13:54   yeah maybe i'm just happy this week [TS]

00:13:56   because I've tired of my desk and clear [TS]

00:13:57   my desktop on my computer and gone to [TS]

00:14:01   the gym a bit and you know you're asking [TS]

00:14:03   maybe this is a bad time to ask me I'm [TS]

00:14:04   just feeling unusually happy today [TS]

00:14:06   yeah yeah but you feel happy in general [TS]

00:14:09   reading yeah I'm feeling pretty happy [TS]

00:14:11   today do you feel more happy than 10 [TS]

00:14:14   years ago I would say that like what are [TS]

00:14:19   you doing 10 years ago I was working at [TS]

00:14:23   the BBC living in Nottingham when I was [TS]

00:14:28   happy I was happy with her but I feel [TS]

00:14:32   like I can do more now like I feel more [TS]

00:14:35   free now I feel more in control of my [TS]

00:14:39   own life now little [TS]

00:14:41   mmm i have i have a lot more [TS]

00:14:45   responsibilities and pressures now [TS]

00:14:47   that's true but at the moment i'm on top [TS]

00:14:50   of them so I'm with up i'm willing to [TS]

00:14:53   I'm going to pay that price for all the [TS]

00:14:55   other goodness so things like at the [TS]

00:14:59   moment but ok but do you think you're [TS]

00:15:02   happier now than 10 years ago [TS]

00:15:04   it's very hard thing to say but i don't [TS]

00:15:07   know i had to measure happiness but i [TS]

00:15:11   would say Howard and I great unknown i'm [TS]

00:15:16   making my brain explode [TS]

00:15:17   look let's talk about it another episode [TS]

00:15:20   this is interesting i need to think more [TS]

00:15:22   about it IM notes you think you think [TS]

00:15:24   about it will do will run the standard [TS]

00:15:25   scientific tests on you here which is i [TS]

00:15:28   will randomly text you or now i'll have [TS]

00:15:31   some robots with I'll set up a program [TS]

00:15:32   to randomly text you when all hours of [TS]

00:15:34   the day and ask you how happy are you [TS]

00:15:36   right now and you can rely on a one to [TS]

00:15:38   ten scale that's that's how it looks [TS]

00:15:40   like hey but you can't measure that [TS]

00:15:42   against the 10 years ago Brady because [TS]

00:15:43   you didn't do that then yeah that's true [TS]

00:15:46   for the next ten years of your life [TS]

00:15:48   I'll have a robot randomly text you [TS]

00:15:51   constantly keep asking out for you are [TS]

00:15:54   then we can compare to see if you 10 [TS]

00:15:56   years from now is happier or sadder than [TS]

00:15:58   you now except i'll always be unhappy [TS]

00:16:00   because no matter what mood i mean i'll [TS]

00:16:01   be pissed off that I've got another text [TS]

00:16:03   that I'm gonna want to exactly get this [TS]

00:16:06   is this is of course the observer effect [TS]

00:16:08   the instant I ask you you get irritated [TS]

00:16:11   and less happy [TS]

00:16:13   alright so i guess you better start the [TS]

00:16:15   show I was starting to show now [TS]

00:16:16   yeah we establish that the shower now i [TS]

00:16:20   tell you i will be a middle-aged by the [TS]

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00:18:51   more basic than finding out your kind of [TS]

00:18:53   Sighs I this is the point at which i [TS]

00:18:54   have to ask who is Keyser Soze the usual [TS]

00:18:57   suspects is the mysterious yeah [TS]

00:19:00   now it looks ok yeah spoilers territory [TS]

00:19:04   very fast here seems like oh yeah but I [TS]

00:19:06   mean that's that that's on spoiler ball [TS]

00:19:08   that feel now that's like that field [TS]

00:19:10   that that film is all about that's like [TS]

00:19:12   I see dead people territory for and [TS]

00:19:15   spoiler born there [TS]

00:19:16   oh yeah yeah you've made their judgment [TS]

00:19:19   if there are a couple of films where the [TS]

00:19:21   twist is so famous that that's all the [TS]

00:19:23   film's its its usual suspects isn't it [TS]

00:19:26   and I see dead people [TS]

00:19:27   anyway but I saw that is 11 spoil [TS]

00:19:29   anything okay really [TS]

00:19:32   speaking of spoilers little i do want to [TS]

00:19:34   talk about something about spoilers [TS]

00:19:36   ya know you know i love talking about [TS]

00:19:38   oil i will talk about the boilers all [TS]

00:19:40   day [TS]

00:19:41   we're not going to spoil anything but [TS]

00:19:42   right now by the way for people so don't [TS]

00:19:44   worry [TS]

00:19:45   ya know that we gotta say I see dead [TS]

00:19:47   people or anything [TS]

00:19:48   yeah like I said that some spoil and [TS]

00:19:52   really has declared it going to send [TS]

00:19:57   your complaints [TS]

00:19:58   surely surely there's like a statute of [TS]

00:20:00   limitations to on sports oh there's not [TS]

00:20:02   a statute of limitations on spoilers I [TS]

00:20:04   fundamentally disagree with that very [TS]

00:20:06   notion you know new people are born [TS]

00:20:08   every day brand-new people manufactured [TS]

00:20:11   who have not seen the sixth sense you [TS]

00:20:15   know that rightly they exist of course [TS]

00:20:18   that's so they can't they can't be a an [TS]

00:20:21   expiration date yeah but ok and also [TS]

00:20:24   let's not tell them how world war to end [TS]

00:20:25   a diver that's not the kind of fucking [TS]

00:20:30   spoil her [TS]

00:20:31   really ok it was winding you up you [TS]

00:20:36   should be immune two wind-ups like that [TS]

00:20:38   but now that was just a throwaway wonder [TS]

00:20:40   if I didn't even think that I get a bite [TS]

00:20:41   I can't believe it if you're if you're [TS]

00:20:43   that easy to ride up today I've got [TS]

00:20:45   plenty worried the tech you're showing [TS]

00:20:46   me your exhaust 40 deaths degrade and [TS]

00:20:49   now I know where the fire the torpedoes [TS]

00:20:53   anyway I want to talk to you about [TS]

00:20:54   spoilers okay what do you want to talk [TS]

00:20:56   about in the wake of a star wars episode [TS]

00:20:58   you know I've I've now been listening to [TS]

00:21:03   a few more reviews and podcasts and [TS]

00:21:05   things about Star Wars I'd I didn't [TS]

00:21:07   listen to anyone have anything to do [TS]

00:21:09   anything any until we recorded hours [TS]

00:21:11   yeah we intentionally both [TS]

00:21:13   didn't read any reviews or listen to [TS]

00:21:15   anything before recording our star wars [TS]

00:21:17   show because that kind of stuff can [TS]

00:21:19   influence your own thoughts and we we [TS]

00:21:21   wanted to go in pure to our recording of [TS]

00:21:25   the show but yes as soon as soon as we [TS]

00:21:27   had finished recording I too was like oh [TS]

00:21:30   boy now I can listen to all the other [TS]

00:21:31   podcasts about Star Wars I tell you what [TS]

00:21:33   great we needn't have bothered almost [TS]

00:21:35   every single one of us into so far Myers [TS]

00:21:37   will be an exact rerun of what we did I [TS]

00:21:39   was almost annoyed by how similar or [TS]

00:21:41   even all the phrasing was that's what [TS]

00:21:43   makes things interesting is to see that [TS]

00:21:44   this is a movie that has remarkable [TS]

00:21:49   consensus is that good like even when [TS]

00:21:51   the criticisms of the side like the [TS]

00:21:53   praise and the criticisms of the sign is [TS]

00:21:55   that the sign of a good film was a sign [TS]

00:21:57   of a safe boring film is that the sign [TS]

00:22:00   of a clever film I mean what-what do you [TS]

00:22:02   read into the fact that everyone feels [TS]

00:22:04   the same way about almost everything [TS]

00:22:06   maybe maybe you could say that it is an [TS]

00:22:10   indication of a bit of a safe film i'm [TS]

00:22:13   not sure that consensus is an indication [TS]

00:22:15   one way or the other [TS]

00:22:16   it is just a thing that with movies [TS]

00:22:18   sometimes across the spectrum people's [TS]

00:22:20   opinions lineup about our it's a good [TS]

00:22:21   movie or it's not a good movie or its [TS]

00:22:23   good movie except for this part so i'm [TS]

00:22:26   i'm not willing to say the consensus in [TS]

00:22:28   and of itself is is a bad or positive [TS]

00:22:31   indicator but it is it is remarkable [TS]

00:22:33   with Star Wars and I was super aware of [TS]

00:22:36   that as well like man every one of these [TS]

00:22:38   podcasts hitting the exact same points [TS]

00:22:40   yes I i'm not saying consent like if [TS]

00:22:42   everyone thinks the film is good [TS]

00:22:44   that's probably a sign it's a good film [TS]

00:22:46   but what I'm what the consensus that [TS]

00:22:48   kind of almost worries me a bit is that [TS]

00:22:50   the detail of it how everyone agrees on [TS]

00:22:53   everything [TS]

00:22:54   mm like it's it's almost a bit strange [TS]

00:22:56   and everyone is interpreting the same [TS]

00:22:58   things the same way and the same the [TS]

00:23:00   same little minor criticisms of the same [TS]

00:23:02   maybe it's a sign that we listen to the [TS]

00:23:05   podcast by people that are too similar [TS]

00:23:07   to us tonight but or it's just an [TS]

00:23:08   expression of the nerd mind in its [TS]

00:23:11   various places different people with [TS]

00:23:13   with different nerd minds like still [TS]

00:23:15   come to the same conclusions so anyway [TS]

00:23:17   the one thing that is starting to get on [TS]

00:23:19   my nerves a little bit and i know that [TS]

00:23:21   i'm a bit biased here because I did have [TS]

00:23:23   the [TS]

00:23:24   fine twist of Star Wars spoiled for me [TS]

00:23:26   but I don't think this is why i'm about [TS]

00:23:29   to say was I i'm getting a little bit [TS]

00:23:31   annoyed by this coat of spoiler [TS]

00:23:34   avoidance how people who manage to see [TS]

00:23:37   it without being spoiled and who didn't [TS]

00:23:39   watch any of the trailers and didn't go [TS]

00:23:42   on Twitter for eight months before the [TS]

00:23:44   film because they didn't want anything [TS]

00:23:45   ruined a kind of like speaking as if [TS]

00:23:48   they see the film through superior eyes [TS]

00:23:53   because they were pure and untainted and [TS]

00:23:56   i don't know i think they're coming [TS]

00:23:58   across like a bit karkash I feel like [TS]

00:24:00   you're talking about me because the [TS]

00:24:01   height of these things like I i know i'm [TS]

00:24:04   not what I'm going to keep talking in a [TS]

00:24:06   way that you might think i'm talking [TS]

00:24:07   about you but I'm not talking about you [TS]

00:24:08   hear her go but you may project onto you [TS]

00:24:11   and ok and the other thing is the people [TS]

00:24:13   who were doing at like some of the [TS]

00:24:16   extremes they went to avoid spoilers [TS]

00:24:19   like they stopped communicating with [TS]

00:24:22   their friends and and they completely [TS]

00:24:25   shut down the areas of their life like [TS]

00:24:27   you know social media parts of their [TS]

00:24:29   life and they went to these extreme [TS]

00:24:31   measures and if you are describing a [TS]

00:24:33   cult two of the things you would say [TS]

00:24:36   about people who have joined a cult [TS]

00:24:38   would be there real zealots and the feel [TS]

00:24:41   really superior about the thing they're [TS]

00:24:43   doing and they start integrity strangely [TS]

00:24:47   to their friends and cutting off their [TS]

00:24:48   friends and that's what these sort of [TS]

00:24:50   the code of spoiler people are doing i [TS]

00:24:52   think that like them up in this thing to [TS]

00:24:54   a few podcasts and like people that [TS]

00:24:57   constantly talking about they're talking [TS]

00:24:59   about how they avoid spoilers more than [TS]

00:25:02   they're talking about the film and I [TS]

00:25:04   don't think you have that superior and [TS]

00:25:07   experience like like not knowing is nice [TS]

00:25:10   and it's an and it's a nice surprise but [TS]

00:25:12   still saying the same film I can't even [TS]

00:25:15   remember if i do the twist of the Empire [TS]

00:25:17   straw empire strikes back when I saw the [TS]

00:25:20   film my can't remember if I already knew [TS]

00:25:22   the thing i would say because people [TS]

00:25:24   have been born I haven't seen Empire [TS]

00:25:25   Strikes Back and gray might not let me [TS]

00:25:26   know yeah but yeah but but when that [TS]

00:25:29   amazing thing happens in Empire Strikes [TS]

00:25:30   Back [TS]

00:25:31   I can't remember if it was sport for me [TS]

00:25:34   or not but i still remember thinking [TS]

00:25:35   Empire Strikes Back was awesome [TS]

00:25:37   so I don't think you have to have sex to [TS]

00:25:40   see a film pure and virginal to enjoy [TS]

00:25:43   the film and I think all these people [TS]

00:25:45   who managed to avoid the spoilers [TS]

00:25:47   you know I'm happy for you and I'm happy [TS]

00:25:49   you enjoyed the film but get off your [TS]

00:25:51   high horse [TS]

00:25:52   I don't think cults normally have [TS]

00:25:54   definitive end points where you engage [TS]

00:25:58   in cultures behavior until exactly [TS]

00:25:59   someday and then oh ok [TS]

00:26:01   never again cult is a little bit it's a [TS]

00:26:04   little bit overblown here [TS]

00:26:06   well maybe it is a bit weird like yeah [TS]

00:26:09   but you're lucky that this this is like [TS]

00:26:11   a once-in-a-lifetime phenomenon right [TS]

00:26:14   like I don't think this is going to be [TS]

00:26:15   even remotely as intense the second time [TS]

00:26:18   for the second movie when it comes out i [TS]

00:26:20   will and i'm sure other people will want [TS]

00:26:21   to avoid spoilers for the second movie [TS]

00:26:24   but i think it's just totally different [TS]

00:26:26   when it's the first one and it's been [TS]

00:26:27   you know a decade and a half since the [TS]

00:26:30   last I think this is just unique in your [TS]

00:26:31   life Brady so you never have to worry [TS]

00:26:33   about it again [TS]

00:26:34   m-most say don't let these cult members [TS]

00:26:36   bother you will say although you are one [TS]

00:26:39   of those people great can I just say you [TS]

00:26:41   are one of the less annoying ones you've [TS]

00:26:43   got your little peculiar things about [TS]

00:26:45   you and one of them was your your [TS]

00:26:48   spoiler avoidance with this film but you [TS]

00:26:50   weren't annoying i'm glad to know that [TS]

00:26:52   for you at least I was less annoying i [TS]

00:26:54   will just say in in defense of avoiding [TS]

00:26:57   spoilers for all kinds of movies that [TS]

00:26:59   the experience of watching thing with [TS]

00:27:03   knowing a little about it as you can is [TS]

00:27:05   different from all of the subsequent [TS]

00:27:07   watchings of a movie and i think that's [TS]

00:27:09   that's the thing that people are trying [TS]

00:27:11   to protect like of course you're [TS]

00:27:12   watching movie again when you've seen [TS]

00:27:14   the first time anything go like I really [TS]

00:27:17   like this movie and you pick up on [TS]

00:27:18   different things but there is something [TS]

00:27:20   unique about the first time that you see [TS]

00:27:22   a movie and if you can condense and [TS]

00:27:25   remove as much information from that [TS]

00:27:28   experience it's just a much better [TS]

00:27:30   experience and I said to you before I [TS]

00:27:31   like to do the same thing with books [TS]

00:27:32   especially like with on the occasions [TS]

00:27:35   that i read fiction i like to pick up a [TS]

00:27:37   book knowing almost nothing about the [TS]

00:27:40   plot and when you do that you discover [TS]

00:27:43   like how is just a different experience [TS]

00:27:46   that a lot of the setup [TS]

00:27:49   feels different than if you know like Oh [TS]

00:27:51   what the overall plot of the of the book [TS]

00:27:53   or the movie is I i agree with the [TS]

00:27:55   greater i agree with you and I would [TS]

00:27:58   always recommend someone to avoid [TS]

00:28:01   spoilers and I you know I avoided style [TS]

00:28:03   or spoilers and certainly for that the [TS]

00:28:06   day or two after the film had come out [TS]

00:28:08   and I hadn't seen that I I was a lot [TS]

00:28:11   more wary then I normally would be so [TS]

00:28:13   I'm not saying don't avoid spoilers i [TS]

00:28:15   guess the thing that I'm a little bit [TS]

00:28:17   funny about other people who are like a [TS]

00:28:18   bit snooty about it and I would be [TS]

00:28:20   preachy about it and if it pretentious [TS]

00:28:22   about it but also can you use your [TS]

00:28:23   pretentious voice to describe how they [TS]

00:28:25   talk about it [TS]

00:28:26   yes I actually didn't switch on my [TS]

00:28:28   computer for five years because I her JJ [TS]

00:28:32   Abrams is directing I wouldn't sealed [TS]

00:28:35   myself in a cocoon [TS]

00:28:36   I like this voice seems to be amplifying [TS]

00:28:38   very quickly and they're this is good [TS]

00:28:40   and I and two films i mean i remember [TS]

00:28:44   when i first saw the matrix I didn't [TS]

00:28:47   even know what it was about I just got a [TS]

00:28:49   ticket from my dad because it was a [TS]

00:28:50   theater critic and said you can go and [TS]

00:28:52   see this film and I had no idea what I [TS]

00:28:53   was even walking into and like I got my [TS]

00:28:56   head exploded and open also i remember i [TS]

00:28:58   went with a friend and saw pulp fiction [TS]

00:29:00   and I had no idea what I had no idea who [TS]

00:29:02   even had made the film like never seen [TS]

00:29:04   reservoir dogs time imagine a Quentin [TS]

00:29:06   Tarantino I was and like an hour into [TS]

00:29:09   the field my friend just turned around [TS]

00:29:10   like grabbed my arm and said this is the [TS]

00:29:13   best film I've ever seen and like so [TS]

00:29:16   like saying films when you have no idea [TS]

00:29:18   is that a wonderful is a wonderful thing [TS]

00:29:20   this is that same friend also and [TS]

00:29:22   erudition lyst turn to me and say this [TS]

00:29:24   whole film going to be black and white [TS]

00:29:25   people that's correct [TS]

00:29:30   this is really depressing you know but [TS]

00:29:35   there is something to be said as well [TS]

00:29:37   for the year of hype before film comes [TS]

00:29:42   out and it can be done in the right way [TS]

00:29:44   and I think a really good example of [TS]

00:29:46   that is Jurassic Park did like the very [TS]

00:29:49   first Jurassic Park i was in a frenzy of [TS]

00:29:53   excitement about saying that film lose [TS]

00:29:56   of all the all the hype and excitement [TS]

00:29:58   and B would happen and true they didn't [TS]

00:30:00   spoiler and they held back a lot [TS]

00:30:02   stuff and that and when you finally sort [TS]

00:30:04   of the dinosaurs most amazing but like I [TS]

00:30:07   wouldn't for the world want to have [TS]

00:30:09   avoided all the high on trailers and [TS]

00:30:11   stuff that preceded jurassic park [TS]

00:30:13   because that that's what made that film [TS]

00:30:16   such an amazing release when you finally [TS]

00:30:17   so are and I think if you avoid the hype [TS]

00:30:19   too much you sometimes miss out on some [TS]

00:30:22   of the experience of what Hollywood and [TS]

00:30:24   what made these is that how that whole [TS]

00:30:27   machine of excitement that comes before [TS]

00:30:28   a film like that machine can sometimes [TS]

00:30:31   be destructive and can give too much [TS]

00:30:32   away but other times it can really [TS]

00:30:34   enhance the experience [TS]

00:30:37   well without a doubt that human [TS]

00:30:39   happiness is increased by anticipation [TS]

00:30:42   and something like the Jurassic Park [TS]

00:30:44   movies there they were selling our [TS]

00:30:49   dinosaurs are amazing like they're going [TS]

00:30:52   to blow your mind and I need the first [TS]

00:30:55   drastic pot maybe I liked [TS]

00:30:57   yeah where the other there's only one [TS]

00:30:58   Jurassic Park movie yeah okay and I mean [TS]

00:31:02   I actually is on grassy park is just a [TS]

00:31:04   couple years ago again and i was [TS]

00:31:06   astounded by how well the graphics held [TS]

00:31:09   up on like yeah believe this works like [TS]

00:31:12   I can see sometimes when they're using [TS]

00:31:15   puppets and when they using CGI but it's [TS]

00:31:17   just amazing how well some movies age [TS]

00:31:19   but but but that movie like when they [TS]

00:31:22   were advertising it they're going to [TS]

00:31:24   show you less of the dinosaurs because [TS]

00:31:26   the dinosaurs are what you're buying the [TS]

00:31:27   ticket for ya and also with that I have [TS]

00:31:30   the same feeling of I was really excited [TS]

00:31:33   for the the first lord of the rings [TS]

00:31:36   movies i remember back when I was in [TS]

00:31:39   college that they put out some little [TS]

00:31:42   tiny online postage stamp-sized video [TS]

00:31:45   featurette of some of the initial stuff [TS]

00:31:49   for lower the Rings like two years [TS]

00:31:51   before the first movie came out and i [TS]

00:31:53   remember watching that over and over [TS]

00:31:55   again where it was a [TS]

00:31:56   the director just saying how like it's [TS]

00:31:58   amazing we have the technology now to to [TS]

00:32:01   make this movie but both of those are [TS]

00:32:03   our are places where I can't even say [TS]

00:32:06   the spoilers because i've read the book [TS]

00:32:08   like the story exists in some other [TS]

00:32:10   place and so I think I like Jurassic [TS]

00:32:13   Park or lord of the rings are bad [TS]

00:32:15   examples for things that you can be [TS]

00:32:17   excited about because they say [TS]

00:32:19   pre-existed in some other place [TS]

00:32:22   yeah but they accept the excitement [TS]

00:32:23   there's how they're going to execute how [TS]

00:32:25   they're going to make it real right but [TS]

00:32:26   that's a totally different excitement [TS]

00:32:28   from what is the thing [TS]

00:32:30   yeah right whereas if if they had [TS]

00:32:34   released a star wars novel of the movie [TS]

00:32:37   a year ahead of time feel like I would [TS]

00:32:39   be a very different experience waiting [TS]

00:32:41   for the Star Wars movie [TS]

00:32:42   I don't think those things are [TS]

00:32:44   necessarily comparable grading can you [TS]

00:32:46   remember a film being spoiled for you [TS]

00:32:49   trying trying to think I'm i know i know [TS]

00:32:52   that i have had stuff spoiled or they're [TS]

00:32:55   just movies where I'm fully aware of [TS]

00:32:57   like oh I'm going to have a different [TS]

00:32:58   experience because I already know the [TS]

00:33:00   thing about it so it doesn't actually [TS]

00:33:01   came up on on boxing day we were [TS]

00:33:03   discussing but we didn't actually we [TS]

00:33:05   were thinking about watching gone girl [TS]

00:33:06   as a movie and that's an example of like [TS]

00:33:08   I already know the whole story of girl I [TS]

00:33:10   don't even know how i know the whole [TS]

00:33:12   story but somehow is entered into my [TS]

00:33:15   mind and so I'm just aware that like [TS]

00:33:16   okay I will watch this movie in a [TS]

00:33:19   totally different way than if I wasn't [TS]

00:33:22   already aware of the plot ahead of time [TS]

00:33:24   yeah so the N and but that's the case [TS]

00:33:27   where I don't really mind because i'm [TS]

00:33:29   not super invested in that we're has [TS]

00:33:31   actually when you talk about cult of [TS]

00:33:33   spoilers the worst I ever was with that [TS]

00:33:36   was avoiding spoilers for the wire [TS]

00:33:39   because I knew that someday i was going [TS]

00:33:42   to sit down and watch the wire but it [TS]

00:33:44   was never this day and so I spent years [TS]

00:33:46   and years like ripping out my headphones [TS]

00:33:48   whenever any podcast would suddenly [TS]

00:33:50   start talking about the wire happens [TS]

00:33:52   just very worried about spoilers for [TS]

00:33:55   this thing that I knew someday i was [TS]

00:33:57   going to watch i had spent years [TS]

00:33:58   avoiding spoilers for a thing that [TS]

00:34:00   already existed back just didn't feel [TS]

00:34:02   like watching it yet for so yeah so [TS]

00:34:05   that's probably the weirdest Behavior [TS]

00:34:06   I've had [TS]

00:34:07   I mean have you have any have any [TS]

00:34:08   massive spoilers [TS]

00:34:10   I mean a side of course from Star Wars [TS]

00:34:12   well yeah I've probably had some and [TS]

00:34:15   I've had others where I've avoided [TS]

00:34:16   things like yourself where I did that a [TS]

00:34:19   little bit with breaking bad link i'm [TS]

00:34:21   funny about with spoilers is quite often [TS]

00:34:23   sport if I have like pre-recorded a game [TS]

00:34:26   happens to me a bit with baseball and [TS]

00:34:28   sometimes some other sports that [TS]

00:34:29   football and Formula One is the classic [TS]

00:34:31   because I always watch Formula One races [TS]

00:34:33   a few hours after they actually happen [TS]

00:34:36   because they used Formula One races [TS]

00:34:38   usually happens on sundays and sundays a [TS]

00:34:40   day when i'm usually at about doing [TS]

00:34:41   things with my wife so I don't I can't [TS]

00:34:43   watch the race until the evening usually [TS]

00:34:45   so I i have to be really careful about [TS]

00:34:48   social media then because if I know who [TS]

00:34:49   wins the race [TS]

00:34:51   it really it makes the race very hard to [TS]

00:34:54   watch the funny thing with sport [TS]

00:34:56   spoilers is like a yankees fan right and [TS]

00:34:59   so if I go if I want to watch the [TS]

00:35:01   yankees game if I find out the result [TS]

00:35:05   and the Yankees win i'll still watch the [TS]

00:35:08   whole game really happily that if I find [TS]

00:35:11   out they lose i just watch but if I know [TS]

00:35:13   they're gonna win i will get just as [TS]

00:35:15   much enjoyment from watching the game as [TS]

00:35:17   as I would from not knowing the result [TS]

00:35:21   in fact sometimes I might enjoy it more [TS]

00:35:22   because even when they're losing i will [TS]

00:35:24   be miserable of you think about this is [TS]

00:35:26   gonna be awesome but that's not gonna [TS]

00:35:27   come back and win it like I can't wait [TS]

00:35:29   look at this is brilliant like and I'm [TS]

00:35:31   looking at the happy up opponents [TS]

00:35:32   thinking you got no idea what's coming [TS]

00:35:34   my sports boilers are a double-edged [TS]

00:35:37   sword and and for example if I'm about [TS]

00:35:40   to watch the yankees game and it spoiled [TS]

00:35:42   and I find out actually the Red Sox are [TS]

00:35:43   going to win this game [TS]

00:35:45   I feel really relieved because that's [TS]

00:35:46   three hours of my life that I can do [TS]

00:35:50   something else with your other rather [TS]

00:35:52   than sitting there being miserable [TS]

00:35:53   watching the loose there's that history [TS]

00:35:56   is just beginning because I'm you know [TS]

00:35:58   I'm not a person who follow sports I [TS]

00:36:00   have no problem with people following [TS]

00:36:01   sports it's just always strikes me as [TS]

00:36:04   funny you say something like oh boy I'm [TS]

00:36:05   really relieved i don't have to watch [TS]

00:36:07   that game is feel like yes that feels [TS]

00:36:10   like something about the sports mind [TS]

00:36:12   like is it really that interesting i [TS]

00:36:15   don't think i'm not sure that it is [TS]

00:36:17   think of it this way gray [TS]

00:36:18   imagine if there was someone i know this [TS]

00:36:20   person could never exist but imagine if [TS]

00:36:22   there was someone who you trusted enough [TS]

00:36:25   their taste in movies or any cultural [TS]

00:36:29   things like books that that you could [TS]

00:36:32   just look to them and say I'm thinking [TS]

00:36:33   of going seeing this film this afternoon [TS]

00:36:35   i'm thinking of reading this book and [TS]

00:36:37   they just gave you a little nod or just [TS]

00:36:39   a little shake of the head to say read [TS]

00:36:41   the book and they knew maybe you [TS]

00:36:43   wouldn't like the book but you can read [TS]

00:36:44   it because there's some value to it or [TS]

00:36:46   it would make you think things are you [TS]

00:36:48   would like it they just knew if it was a [TS]

00:36:50   valuable use of your time [TS]

00:36:52   okay you've convinced me i have [TS]

00:36:54   completely changed my mind your right [TS]

00:36:56   eye I see this inner su this in a [TS]

00:36:58   different way because for sport [TS]

00:37:00   yeah and and the reason that works for [TS]

00:37:02   sport is because this with sport the [TS]

00:37:06   result and the team I want to win is the [TS]

00:37:08   be all and end oh right so that little [TS]

00:37:10   nod or shake of the head really does [TS]

00:37:12   just come down to the result most of the [TS]

00:37:14   time right sports feels like world war [TS]

00:37:16   two can there be spoilers [TS]

00:37:18   I don't think they're handing but well [TS]

00:37:21   yeah it's funny but but if my team is [TS]

00:37:25   going to win [TS]

00:37:26   I'd rather not know but you know you [TS]

00:37:28   can't do it doesn't work that way [TS]

00:37:30   there's a blue it's very difficult [TS]

00:37:32   I'm sorry about your your sports spoiler [TS]

00:37:35   difficulties my sport feelings gone down [TS]

00:37:37   here with the last year or so i need to [TS]

00:37:38   really need to pick that up [TS]

00:37:40   yeah yeah it has gone downhill we were [TS]

00:37:41   watching darts that was a bad Boxing Day [TS]

00:37:45   is I want you to see what I wanted to [TS]

00:37:48   see what that's like horrific Lee poorly [TS]

00:37:51   designed sport that you just kept trying [TS]

00:37:54   to really sell me on and I was [TS]

00:37:57   completely unsold at four people [TS]

00:38:00   listening grace problem with doctors he [TS]

00:38:02   think he thinks it just should be a [TS]

00:38:03   competition to see who can hit the [TS]

00:38:05   bullseye basically it's just like it [TS]

00:38:07   just blows my mind the darts is not [TS]

00:38:10   about hitting the bullseye [TS]

00:38:12   I can hardly i can hardly eve i just had [TS]

00:38:15   we want to spend i don't like an hour [TS]

00:38:17   arguing over this and like oh no they [TS]

00:38:20   don't try to hit the bullseye and an [TS]

00:38:22   okay so okay so listen you might be [TS]

00:38:24   thinking if you're unfamiliar with darts [TS]

00:38:25   oh there must be more complexity to it [TS]

00:38:27   that like there's a thing that's going [TS]

00:38:29   on and maybe it's much more interesting [TS]

00:38:30   game now [TS]

00:38:31   instead they're just trying to hit a [TS]

00:38:33   little little red rectangle that's just [TS]

00:38:36   a few inches above the bullseye every [TS]

00:38:38   time until the very end so they might as [TS]

00:38:40   well they don't even tear company offer [TS]

00:38:43   they might as well be hitting the [TS]

00:38:45   bullseye [TS]

00:38:46   it's just if you just if they're just [TS]

00:38:49   gonna be aiming for that let the Red [TS]

00:38:51   Square above the bullseye [TS]

00:38:52   why don't they just aim for the goddamn [TS]

00:38:55   bullseye because it's a dartboard it's [TS]

00:38:57   just infuriating [TS]

00:38:59   I couldn't believe this i felt like on [TS]

00:39:01   the day when I finally explained the [TS]

00:39:03   nuance of diets to you and and and why [TS]

00:39:05   that's not true i felt like he got there [TS]

00:39:07   in the end I feel like now ya address [TS]

00:39:09   no no no this is a regression it'sit's [TS]

00:39:12   not first of all we again we had to be [TS]

00:39:14   more civil because the wives were around [TS]

00:39:15   like it's like strangle you like I [TS]

00:39:18   wanted to [TS]

00:39:18   ok you sitting there all smug about like [TS]

00:39:21   Oh dr. no is ok i was standing up at the [TS]

00:39:24   TV pointing to parts of the dark or the [TS]

00:39:26   TV so that you could understand it it's [TS]

00:39:31   just I just I could not I could not [TS]

00:39:33   believe the rule the rules of darts [TS]

00:39:35   I mean it was it was kind of fun to see [TS]

00:39:37   it on TV i'm not saying that like darts [TS]

00:39:40   is dumb like I always and I always like [TS]

00:39:42   that no matter what the activity is in [TS]

00:39:45   the world there's a group of people who [TS]

00:39:48   are super into the thing and to me like [TS]

00:39:51   that this is just the great thing about [TS]

00:39:53   the modern world is that no matter what [TS]

00:39:55   it is no matter how obscure your [TS]

00:39:57   interests are there's going to be a [TS]

00:39:58   group of people who are into a thing and [TS]

00:40:00   so aside from the actual rules of the [TS]

00:40:03   game which I thought were ridiculous [TS]

00:40:05   I didn't think it was fun to see that he [TS]

00:40:07   was up at alexandra palace in North [TS]

00:40:10   London but ally pally pally pally is [TS]

00:40:14   that what they call it [TS]

00:40:15   that's what you can put the dots people [TS]

00:40:16   called le Vaillant a tally pally [TS]

00:40:19   yeah but I did love that there was like [TS]

00:40:21   this this arena for the darts players [TS]

00:40:24   and they had cheerleaders like big [TS]

00:40:26   lights and swooping cameras like I just [TS]

00:40:28   like that whole thing I do love i love [TS]

00:40:30   that this can exist in the modern world [TS]

00:40:33   but the fact that they're not aiming at [TS]

00:40:36   the bullseye they're aiming at something [TS]

00:40:37   just slightly north of the bullseye [TS]

00:40:39   every time that's in fury [TS]

00:40:41   you need to change that rule darts [TS]

00:40:43   please people don't go to Twitter or red [TS]

00:40:46   or email to explain the rules of dots to [TS]

00:40:48   grow and I i explained the rules of dots [TS]

00:40:51   to gray yeah explain why there's a lot [TS]

00:40:53   more to it than that [TS]

00:40:54   no there's no ice is my slow it I swear [TS]

00:40:56   at the time it felt like he understood [TS]

00:40:58   no I understand right now I understand [TS]

00:41:00   right now if that is the triple 20 where [TS]

00:41:02   you're counting down from five hundred [TS]

00:41:04   and at the very end you have to get it [TS]

00:41:05   like 80 I understand like we we went [TS]

00:41:08   through and you understand the targets [TS]

00:41:09   move around depending on the state of [TS]

00:41:11   the game and and yours yes no it only [TS]

00:41:14   that it only matters at the very end you [TS]

00:41:17   do you do for throws we're always trying [TS]

00:41:19   to hit the same little rectangle and [TS]

00:41:20   then at the end when you get in 20 then [TS]

00:41:22   does it change that's no no I understand [TS]

00:41:25   perfectly i understand exactly how they [TS]

00:41:27   clearly didn't this is my failure to my [TS]

00:41:30   family and that this is a failure [TS]

00:41:31   experiences mile yeah hi darts works its [TS]

00:41:34   I I take full responsibility for gracing [TS]

00:41:37   fact great misunderstanding here and I [TS]

00:41:40   will work on together whatsoever no we [TS]

00:41:41   will not work on anybody come to write [TS]

00:41:44   at we should play dats that's what we [TS]

00:41:48   should do [TS]

00:41:49   alright I exactly don't like a sport you [TS]

00:41:51   play do that like I can't say you have a [TS]

00:41:53   strapping on the Cricut pads and letting [TS]

00:41:55   me send down a few you are now I was any [TS]

00:41:57   cricket but but I think you play dance [TS]

00:41:59   with me [TS]

00:41:59   ya know I wonder i don't i don't think [TS]

00:42:02   the public we meet up normally has the [TS]

00:42:04   dartboard but will I play don't you [TS]

00:42:06   sometime [TS]

00:42:06   all right we'll find a pool find it [TS]

00:42:08   that's venue yeah it's a date [TS]

00:42:10   our fourth date let's talk flags flag [TS]

00:42:15   vote follow-up yeah we had our big [TS]

00:42:18   referendum we haven't had a chance to [TS]

00:42:21   talk about it because star wars 2 [TS]

00:42:23   precedence for a while you're eight [TS]

00:42:24   million pounds might have taken [TS]

00:42:26   precedence but it didn't know flag [TS]

00:42:29   follow-up now you know what I mean the [TS]

00:42:30   lottery tonight you you probably don't [TS]

00:42:32   know this but there's a huge jackpot in [TS]

00:42:34   the in the lottery in the UK tonight [TS]

00:42:37   oh yeah and it has to be one so if no [TS]

00:42:39   one wins it [TS]

00:42:40   they Divya all the money to the second [TS]

00:42:42   place getters so that apparently as of [TS]

00:42:46   an error ago they were selling 400 [TS]

00:42:49   tickets a second [TS]

00:42:50   Wow p [TS]

00:42:52   you really are mathematically illiterate [TS]

00:42:54   out tonight but I was one of them [TS]

00:42:56   because because my letter night mr. [TS]

00:43:00   number vile mathematically illiterate in [TS]

00:43:03   fact i think the drawers happened so you [TS]

00:43:05   could right now be speaking to a [TS]

00:43:07   millionaire [TS]

00:43:08   well let's continue on with the shower [TS]

00:43:11   it's let's continue with what could be [TS]

00:43:13   our last show right with the the flag [TS]

00:43:15   fate and so there's lots of little bitty [TS]

00:43:19   bits of follow-up really the first thing [TS]

00:43:21   i want to do is I just wanna tip my hat [TS]

00:43:24   to those people who was so dedicated [TS]

00:43:26   that they watched our epic video of us [TS]

00:43:31   sorting the votes and they were [TS]

00:43:32   obviously watching frame-by-frame [TS]

00:43:34   because these people have screen [TS]

00:43:36   captured the moment that we threw their [TS]

00:43:38   postcard into whatever been we threw it [TS]

00:43:41   into and they've been posting them on [TS]

00:43:42   social media and zooming in and [TS]

00:43:44   enhancing and putting red circles around [TS]

00:43:46   postcard saying look look there's my [TS]

00:43:48   vote is my vote going into the bin and i [TS]

00:43:52   have been saying those tweets and i just [TS]

00:43:54   want to say good on ya I admire you i [TS]

00:43:57   think you have a you know I don't want [TS]

00:43:59   you to feel like you did that for [TS]

00:44:00   nothing because you probably do it for [TS]

00:44:03   nothing but he did it for the [TS]

00:44:04   satisfaction of finding their vote I'm [TS]

00:44:06   really glad that people were able to [TS]

00:44:07   find their votes [TS]

00:44:08   I think it's extra funny though that [TS]

00:44:09   some people got really lucky because [TS]

00:44:11   what the way we threw the votes they [TS]

00:44:13   would land and really prominent [TS]

00:44:14   positions for your hands sections of the [TS]

00:44:16   video is like those people had an easy [TS]

00:44:18   road like oh great tell my my vote was [TS]

00:44:21   visible at the front of the bin for the [TS]

00:44:23   entire video like those people were [TS]

00:44:25   we're very lucky in that case but yeah [TS]

00:44:27   I'm glad people are able to go through [TS]

00:44:29   and and find their votes and see you see [TS]

00:44:32   them in action and we now have a [TS]

00:44:36   time-lapse of the whole thing up on [TS]

00:44:38   YouTube is that right or at least it [TS]

00:44:40   will be up when the podcast goes up [TS]

00:44:42   yeah sort of like it's condensed down to [TS]

00:44:44   marry couple minutes maybe the whole [TS]

00:44:47   thing with a bit of hello Internet [TS]

00:44:49   inspired music composed by alan stewart [TS]

00:44:52   who made a little hello Internet song [TS]

00:44:54   here a little hello internet like you [TS]

00:44:56   know tone at the start of the episodes [TS]

00:44:58   he's you that hasn't yeah he's used that [TS]

00:45:01   as the inspiration for this little piece [TS]

00:45:03   of music [TS]

00:45:04   that goes with it so you can have a look [TS]

00:45:06   at that would be even harder to spot [TS]

00:45:07   your vote on that because obviously it [TS]

00:45:09   goes by the million miles a second [TS]

00:45:11   well are we still putting up the [TS]

00:45:13   real-time one what's the story with that [TS]

00:45:15   because you're in charge of this I do [TS]

00:45:17   intend to do that and obviously that [TS]

00:45:20   will be spoiler tested for people who [TS]

00:45:22   avoid grace face because I'm already [TS]

00:45:23   getting my knuckles rapped for grace [TS]

00:45:26   face gate on the other on the other [TS]

00:45:28   video say I've had put up to try to [TS]

00:45:31   minimize the number of people who are [TS]

00:45:32   yelling at you I put up little [TS]

00:45:33   annotations that people can click when [TS]

00:45:35   the spoiler is coming up so it says like [TS]

00:45:37   grace face boiler coming up click here [TS]

00:45:39   to avoid then it jumps forward ten [TS]

00:45:41   seconds because I did feel bad about how [TS]

00:45:44   many comments you were getting when I [TS]

00:45:46   was like you put together a video with [TS]

00:45:48   thousands of cuts like it was it was [TS]

00:45:50   inevitable that there i didn't even so I [TS]

00:45:52   didn't even say let's say them i did [TS]

00:45:53   like sometimes I did crop at your face [TS]

00:45:55   of some shots but anyway yes I keep keep [TS]

00:45:59   an eye on the hello internet YouTube [TS]

00:46:00   channel for all that kind of stuff and [TS]

00:46:02   we'll obviously talked about on social [TS]

00:46:04   media and stuff but yeah that the [TS]

00:46:06   hazards that YouTube channels the place [TS]

00:46:07   to go for people who do want to see some [TS]

00:46:10   postcards like if in full HD deluxe can [TS]

00:46:14   I also do a little plug for what has [TS]

00:46:17   become essentially my passion project [TS]

00:46:19   who which is a podcast postcards dot-com [TS]

00:46:25   blue and what's happening there is every [TS]

00:46:28   day at 333 p.m. UK time and new postcard [TS]

00:46:33   is going up on that blog and ice and ice [TS]

00:46:36   can a high-resolution the front and the [TS]

00:46:39   back so you can pour over in all this [TS]

00:46:41   detail and sometimes I try to make the [TS]

00:46:43   postcard relevant to the day so it's [TS]

00:46:45   like the national day of their cameroon [TS]

00:46:49   i'll try and make a postcard from [TS]

00:46:50   Cameroon that day so sometimes their [TS]

00:46:52   famed sometimes they just ones that have [TS]

00:46:55   caught our eye and i'm really loving [TS]

00:46:58   doing this and i'm scared i'm spending [TS]

00:46:59   way too much time on her for something [TS]

00:47:01   that is not getting like a whole lot of [TS]

00:47:02   traffic but the proper has been the [TS]

00:47:04   return on investment is negative but I [TS]

00:47:06   it's a huge this is a huge loss make it [TS]

00:47:09   but I'm just getting so much pleasure [TS]

00:47:10   from a and like I'm I'm pre-programming [TS]

00:47:14   these blogs to like go up on certain [TS]

00:47:16   dates in the future and I'm already like [TS]

00:47:18   towards the end of the year like around [TS]

00:47:20   on a dove on anniversaries of famous [TS]

00:47:23   things the end of the year I've already [TS]

00:47:24   got that blog post already done with a [TS]

00:47:26   relevant postcard diesel yeah i'm really [TS]

00:47:29   loving it like it's just a it's just [TS]

00:47:31   become a little it's always become like [TS]

00:47:34   a therapeutic thing i do it just it's [TS]

00:47:35   kind of mine less than lovely and it's [TS]

00:47:38   nice to look through all these lovely [TS]

00:47:39   pictures and it's nice to have a bit of [TS]

00:47:41   a connection with some of the listeners [TS]

00:47:43   and it's an easy job to do and it's a [TS]

00:47:46   bit fun so don't have a look post-its [TS]

00:47:50   podcast postcards dot-com yeah there is [TS]

00:47:54   also a twitter twitter for and stuff but [TS]

00:47:56   if people look at it will make me happy [TS]

00:47:58   because i'm spending so much time doing [TS]

00:47:59   that people should definitely look and i [TS]

00:48:00   have to say i have been really enjoying [TS]

00:48:02   it as well it's it's just very [TS]

00:48:04   interesting to see the different [TS]

00:48:05   postcards and of course my experience a [TS]

00:48:07   little bit different because we just did [TS]

00:48:09   not have time on the day to really look [TS]

00:48:11   through everything and I'm enjoying [TS]

00:48:13   these postcards in their digital form [TS]

00:48:15   and i love that you're scaring them at [TS]

00:48:17   high resolution and I go on the site and [TS]

00:48:20   check it out and I just it's this is how [TS]

00:48:23   i can appreciate the uniqueness of each [TS]

00:48:26   of these things it's like oh I have I [TS]

00:48:28   have time to look at them and check them [TS]

00:48:30   out and see the little details that [TS]

00:48:31   people put in their i like that you have [TS]

00:48:33   your late ballot stamp that you put on [TS]

00:48:36   top of some of the postcards it's it's [TS]

00:48:37   really nice and yeah you can see what [TS]

00:48:40   people wrote you can see what stamps [TS]

00:48:41   they used and stuff it's really it's [TS]

00:48:43   really fun already liked it and I always [TS]

00:48:45   just love this is almost like this in [TS]

00:48:47   the same way that the internet always [TS]

00:48:48   feel like oh people are just so clever [TS]

00:48:50   on the internet people have been really [TS]

00:48:51   clever with some of the the postcards as [TS]

00:48:53   well I'm looking at one right now which [TS]

00:48:55   is that that famous picture of soldiers [TS]

00:48:56   in World War two raising the flag but [TS]

00:48:59   they have a photoshopped it so that it's [TS]

00:49:01   the white cross flag which was the one [TS]

00:49:03   person was voting for and I just love [TS]

00:49:05   that people do these things do you know [TS]

00:49:07   what I'm surprised hasn't happened yet [TS]

00:49:09   by some-some you know super fan or node [TS]

00:49:12   I'm surprised no one is keeping a [TS]

00:49:15   running vote score just based on the [TS]

00:49:17   postcards that have gone on to the blog [TS]

00:49:19   like it like a running tally of who's [TS]

00:49:22   who would be willing the vote if they [TS]

00:49:23   were the only ones that were cast [TS]

00:49:24   but i'm sure that would never happen [TS]

00:49:26   yeah sure that will happen now but yeah [TS]

00:49:29   there is a reddit dedicated to the [TS]

00:49:30   postcards will probably appear there i [TS]

00:49:32   imagine but and this is what the editor [TS]

00:49:34   for everything there's a reason for [TS]

00:49:36   everything [TS]

00:49:36   anyway go and check out that website you [TS]

00:49:38   cannot you can just dip in once a week [TS]

00:49:40   or once a month and go and look at all [TS]

00:49:41   the past ones or you can look everyday [TS]

00:49:43   if you're a proper help us super [TS]

00:49:45   enthusiastic you can be frantically [TS]

00:49:47   refreshing at three-thirty to every day [TS]

00:49:50   there are struggling votes coming in as [TS]

00:49:53   well as I just a couple of days ago I [TS]

00:49:55   went and picked up some more like votes [TS]

00:49:57   there they're not having to give us a [TS]

00:49:59   separate cardboard box anymore heir own [TS]

00:50:01   post box is now enough to hold the five [TS]

00:50:04   or six light votes that come in [TS]

00:50:06   hey did you return all of the [TS]

00:50:08   misdirected mail that we got yes call [TS]

00:50:12   that has to Steve and everybody else [TS]

00:50:14   yes I've taken those back to the the [TS]

00:50:16   post place and said can you sort things [TS]

00:50:17   out so they have been returned hopefully [TS]

00:50:20   they will find their way to where [TS]

00:50:21   they're supposed to be [TS]

00:50:22   I was kind of hoping you would be like [TS]

00:50:24   Santa Claus and hand-deliver them [TS]

00:50:25   yourself around the neighborhood and [TS]

00:50:27   explain to everybody what the situation [TS]

00:50:28   like while I am prone to wasting vast [TS]

00:50:31   amounts of my time when points projects [TS]

00:50:33   that would be a step too far i think i [TS]

00:50:35   like that idea though like it's your [TS]

00:50:36   friendly neighborhood Brady delivering [TS]

00:50:38   the misdirected mail I'm not opposed to [TS]

00:50:41   people still sending us postcards with [TS]

00:50:43   what they would have voted for they just [TS]

00:50:45   have to know they're going to get a [TS]

00:50:46   light ballot stamp on them and they are [TS]

00:50:49   they won't be counted of course but they [TS]

00:50:50   still might appear on the blog one day [TS]

00:50:52   and now go into this huge collection i [TS]

00:50:53   have in my office of postcards [TS]

00:50:56   yeah your collection looks lovely and [TS]

00:50:59   I'm glad that you are the keeper of the [TS]

00:51:00   postcards [TS]

00:51:01   yeah you can come and look at them [TS]

00:51:03   anytime well just make an appointment [TS]

00:51:05   but now i'm just going to show up you [TS]

00:51:09   like that i'll just show up at route [TS]

00:51:10   Brady don't be a nice surprise i [TS]

00:51:12   wouldn't mind I think you would I think [TS]

00:51:15   you would be really freaked out if I [TS]

00:51:16   just showed up at your door one day I'd [TS]

00:51:19   think something dramatically bad [TS]

00:51:21   happened move but I wouldn't if but if [TS]

00:51:24   you'd said no everything's fine i just [TS]

00:51:25   thought it would be a nice surprise i [TS]

00:51:26   think brilliant this guy for lunch [TS]

00:51:28   let's play darts is hello Internet [TS]

00:51:31   episode has once again been brought to [TS]

00:51:33   you by Squarespace now we talk all the [TS]

00:51:36   time about how great Squarespace is [TS]

00:51:38   I mean even today you've heard me talk [TS]

00:51:39   about the new podcast postcards website [TS]

00:51:42   well I'm doing that entirely with [TS]

00:51:44   squarespace and i can tell you it's an [TS]

00:51:46   absolute pleasure some of my other old [TS]

00:51:48   websites started many years ago and will [TS]

00:51:51   they become a real mess to design an [TS]

00:51:53   update it's a nightmare every time I [TS]

00:51:55   have to even go and look at them [TS]

00:51:56   not so with the site's designed and [TS]

00:51:58   updated with squarespace like my daily [TS]

00:52:01   blog the podcasts the hello internet [TS]

00:52:04   site they're all an absolute dream now I [TS]

00:52:07   think it's possible some of you may not [TS]

00:52:08   really understand what I'm talking about [TS]

00:52:09   what is Squarespace how does this work [TS]

00:52:12   really my best advice is do this go to [TS]

00:52:15   squarespace.com just follow all the [TS]

00:52:18   steps as easy as pie and just set up [TS]

00:52:20   your own test site maybe a blog or a [TS]

00:52:23   portfolio some ID always wanted to try [TS]

00:52:25   you can do this really quickly [TS]

00:52:27   no credit card required you don't need [TS]

00:52:29   to do any of that you can just come play [TS]

00:52:31   basically within minutes I think you'll [TS]

00:52:33   be sold on it when you see just how easy [TS]

00:52:35   it is to make a really amazing website [TS]

00:52:37   professional-looking looks good on all [TS]

00:52:40   devices computers tablets phones without [TS]

00:52:42   you having to even think about that you [TS]

00:52:44   just don't have to worry about all that [TS]

00:52:45   techie stuff you just got to think about [TS]

00:52:47   what you want to be on the site [TS]

00:52:49   everything else is handled behind the [TS]

00:52:51   scenes although if you are taking you [TS]

00:52:52   can tweak that stuff too [TS]

00:52:54   there is scope to do that if you want to [TS]

00:52:55   really get into the code so go to [TS]

00:52:57   squarespace.com give it a go and if you [TS]

00:53:01   sign on for the real deal you're looking [TS]

00:53:02   at packages starting from as little as [TS]

00:53:04   eight dollars a month and if you do that [TS]

00:53:06   you can get ten percent off your first [TS]

00:53:08   purchase using the discount code [TS]

00:53:11   hello that also lets them know you're [TS]

00:53:13   hello Internet listener which we like so [TS]

00:53:15   that squarespace.com and then hello when [TS]

00:53:17   you sign on for real seriously have a [TS]

00:53:20   look at I can't tell you how easy it is [TS]

00:53:22   but also how great it is [TS]

00:53:23   Squarespace build a beautiful [TS]

00:53:27   here's the situation could ever want to [TS]

00:53:28   know what's happening with the flag i [TS]

00:53:32   have decided and discussed it with you [TS]

00:53:34   that we are having some really [TS]

00:53:36   professional versions of the winning [TS]

00:53:37   flag nail gear made yeah and I've been [TS]

00:53:41   talking to a proper flare company about [TS]

00:53:43   different ways they can make it and they [TS]

00:53:44   gonna do like so inversions with all the [TS]

00:53:46   ropes and toggles and everything like [TS]

00:53:48   that like a real flag [TS]

00:53:50   well i'm calling it the pro flag because [TS]

00:53:52   you know i like anything that's probably [TS]

00:53:54   say yeah so so what I did the other day [TS]

00:54:00   was I'm about to I'm about to order [TS]

00:54:03   order seminar that or maybe there'll be [TS]

00:54:05   some business who would like who would [TS]

00:54:08   like one of these and i will order one [TS]

00:54:09   for them too so there is a medical [TS]

00:54:12   section on my blog where you can go if [TS]

00:54:13   you want one you can you can get one but [TS]

00:54:16   they are very expensive and also you [TS]

00:54:18   know because it's part of supporting the [TS]

00:54:20   podcast and the amount of time i'm going [TS]

00:54:22   to have to spend mailing them and [TS]

00:54:25   dealing with other people's request and [TS]

00:54:26   stuff you know that they have to be [TS]

00:54:28   expensive don't like they can't just you [TS]

00:54:30   know I can't still free so so some [TS]

00:54:33   people so all i really loved one of [TS]

00:54:35   those but they really expensive making [TS]

00:54:36   the pro of anything it's just more [TS]

00:54:39   expensive because it's super high [TS]

00:54:40   quality that's just that's just the way [TS]

00:54:42   it is like it's not like that and we're [TS]

00:54:44   deal and I have to do with it and I blah [TS]

00:54:45   i do have like work i'm supposed to do [TS]

00:54:48   so is this has to be worth the time do [TS]

00:54:50   you though because you seem to spend [TS]

00:54:52   your time just you know scanning [TS]

00:54:54   postcards and ro and well I can't [TS]

00:54:57   correct ok well maybe well maybe that's [TS]

00:54:59   a bad example let's say let's say maybe [TS]

00:55:02   we can let say maybe i'm hoping i can [TS]

00:55:03   use the profits from selling flags to [TS]

00:55:06   indulge my scanning habit but anyway [TS]

00:55:10   that's by-the-by we we we know people [TS]

00:55:12   want what this one a copy of the flag [TS]

00:55:15   and they don't want to have to pay flag [TS]

00:55:17   pro prizes which is completely [TS]

00:55:18   reasonable so hopefully by the time this [TS]

00:55:21   podcast goes out or very soon if not [TS]

00:55:24   check check the links in all the usual [TS]

00:55:26   places we are talking to [TS]

00:55:29   dftba who do after tron 5,000 t-shirt [TS]

00:55:32   and the hello Internet teacher about [TS]

00:55:34   having an alien gear t-shirts and also a [TS]

00:55:37   cheaper nail and gear flag made that you [TS]

00:55:40   can buy through them because you and I [TS]

00:55:42   don't have to do with it right and we [TS]

00:55:44   can make them you know super cheap right [TS]

00:55:47   is there's not like a one-off order [TS]

00:55:48   yeah and you know if we don't have it is [TS]

00:55:50   and we don't have to sign and stuff that [TS]

00:55:52   you just getting it from the factory and [TS]

00:55:53   you can get one and you and you're [TS]

00:55:54   supporting the podcast as well so keep [TS]

00:55:56   an eye out for that that is gonna that's [TS]

00:55:58   gonna be there [TS]

00:55:59   and finally the final issue is you [TS]

00:56:02   could make your right i guess what do [TS]

00:56:03   you think about that gray well yeah we [TS]

00:56:06   were discussing before that and the [TS]

00:56:10   thing about this is we did this big [TS]

00:56:13   referendum we're choosing a flag for the [TS]

00:56:18   growing nation of hello Internet [TS]

00:56:21   yeah it's for the team's yeah it's for [TS]

00:56:23   the dims yeah and for the teams to show [TS]

00:56:27   their allegiance yeah to march around [TS]

00:56:31   with it was voted on by the teams for [TS]

00:56:34   the teams right and and so we were we [TS]

00:56:37   were saying that we just we just want to [TS]

00:56:40   make it the official policy that the [TS]

00:56:44   flag design belongs to the community so [TS]

00:56:48   if you want to make your own flag if you [TS]

00:56:51   want to print your own flag go nuts with [TS]

00:56:55   it and I i will open in the show notes [TS]

00:56:58   i'll make available [TS]

00:57:00   i like-a the high-quality vector so the [TS]

00:57:04   people can download it and play around [TS]

00:57:06   with it but I really feel like we [TS]

00:57:08   happened to be putting together a flag [TS]

00:57:11   for people to buy if they want out of [TS]

00:57:12   convenience but the flag belongs to the [TS]

00:57:15   people because it came from the people [TS]

00:57:17   so you go nuts with it everybody like [TS]

00:57:20   this is your flag and we want you to [TS]

00:57:23   have fun with it but I have to say I'm [TS]

00:57:25   quite looking forward to my flag / I [TS]

00:57:26   can't wait to see the flag 40 inverse [TS]

00:57:28   yeah it's gonna be great [TS]

00:57:32   they're flying from our headquarters [TS]

00:57:34   exactly it's that you are by the way is [TS]

00:57:37   one person already has printed the flag [TS]

00:57:39   and flowing it [TS]

00:57:40   oh yeah yeah I can't remember who they [TS]

00:57:43   were maybe i can find them angry at [TS]

00:57:46   right brand free is it put first flag [TS]

00:57:50   ever to see the wind ? and they are [TS]

00:57:53   flying the flag from a flagpole moving [TS]

00:57:56   in a sort of released only location and [TS]

00:57:59   it's quite impressive actually greater [TS]

00:58:00   than our together the flying the flight [TS]

00:58:02   and it kind of looks like it so because [TS]

00:58:04   of your entire video everyone is also [TS]

00:58:06   now saying is this anti occurring are [TS]

00:58:08   you claiming Antarctica and stuff like [TS]

00:58:10   that means i think we have cleared [TS]

00:58:12   together I think that video is [TS]

00:58:13   officially claiming it's our to connect [TS]

00:58:14   application developer internet like [TS]

00:58:16   that's all you make sure you're happy [TS]

00:58:17   you can look at twitter Kenya because if [TS]

00:58:18   your band so no I'm back now it's been [TS]

00:58:21   two months and back character i haven't [TS]

00:58:23   I just have it really got on very much [TS]

00:58:24   but I can look now I've just sent it to [TS]

00:58:26   you and I message anyway the picture so [TS]

00:58:28   you can see it the nailing gear proudly [TS]

00:58:30   flying very cool it looks it looks [TS]

00:58:32   magnificent it it does it looks [TS]

00:58:34   absolutely magnificent and it's a beacon [TS]

00:58:37   of the postcard democracy the beacon of [TS]

00:58:40   postcard democracy so one more thing i [TS]

00:58:42   just want to mention about the [TS]

00:58:43   referendum which I quite enjoyed which [TS]

00:58:48   is that nail and gear one we had our our [TS]

00:58:52   preference distribution it was a [TS]

00:58:54   comfortable victory if not a landslide [TS]

00:58:57   yeah without a doubt it was a [TS]

00:58:57   comfortable victory yep just like in any [TS]

00:59:01   nation [TS]

00:59:02   there's always opposition and I cannot [TS]

00:59:07   help but notice that the opposition [TS]

00:59:09   seems to have coalesced around flag flag [TS]

00:59:14   in a way that I think is really [TS]

00:59:16   interesting looking at all of the [TS]

00:59:18   discussions I don't see anybody who is [TS]

00:59:21   coalescing around the other versions [TS]

00:59:23   it's just but there's like strong [TS]

00:59:25   minority support for flag flag [TS]

00:59:28   interesting flag flag has developed its [TS]

00:59:31   own subreddit there's like a twitter [TS]

00:59:33   account that's promoting it i've seen in [TS]

00:59:35   a bunch of the conversations like flag [TS]

00:59:37   flag has definitely attracted its its [TS]

00:59:40   little subgroup and so my feeling on [TS]

00:59:43   this is like flag flag has become the [TS]

00:59:47   rebel flag of the hello Internet nation [TS]

00:59:50   like this seems to be what it really is [TS]

00:59:52   like the flag of the opposition is [TS]

00:59:54   flagging leg or the could've been like [TS]

00:59:56   that could you know though what could [TS]

00:59:57   have been the alternate history [TS]

00:59:57   have been the alternate history [TS]

01:00:00   yeah i just think it's it's it is really [TS]

01:00:01   interesting host election to see that [TS]

01:00:04   there is no discussion of the other [TS]

01:00:06   versions like that I don't see anybody [TS]

01:00:08   really like Oh club and claw forever [TS]

01:00:10   right now it's always flag flag forever [TS]

01:00:12   so I feel like flag flag is the [TS]

01:00:15   unofficial official rebel flag of the [TS]

01:00:18   podcast just today the day we're [TS]

01:00:20   recording one of the postcards i put [TS]

01:00:22   onto the blog the new website was the [TS]

01:00:25   late vote that came after the deadline [TS]

01:00:27   from dirk a very established fame [TS]

01:00:30   oh yeah and he voted for flag flag and [TS]

01:00:32   even wrote on his postcard you know you [TS]

01:00:35   know the one truth leg leg of truth I [TS]

01:00:38   think he wrote so so we'll have to have [TS]

01:00:41   to pick his brain next time we speak to [TS]

01:00:42   him and find out why he thinks flag flag [TS]

01:00:44   user has done this because he was an [TS]

01:00:47   advocate that one as well yeah there we [TS]

01:00:49   go [TS]

01:00:50   why didn't i think it's i think it's [TS]

01:00:51   interesting to see the discussion before [TS]

01:00:54   and the discussion after the election [TS]

01:00:57   and the flag flag people they're serious [TS]

01:01:01   there are there no joke is it legitimate [TS]

01:01:03   for me to ask you as the queen of [TS]

01:01:06   diamonds of hello internet how you feel [TS]

01:01:09   about flag flag or is that something you [TS]

01:01:11   can't comment on for diplomatic reasons [TS]

01:01:13   or what are your feelings towards flag [TS]

01:01:15   flag as a flag [TS]

01:01:16   I mean here's the thing i have done what [TS]

01:01:21   I've said I've done which is that I am [TS]

01:01:23   the embodiment of the will of the people [TS]

01:01:25   i have no opinion on any of these flags [TS]

01:01:28   except of course for nail and gear which [TS]

01:01:32   is the one true flag of the hello [TS]

01:01:35   Internet nation [TS]

01:01:36   wow that's what we represent you have [TS]

01:01:39   you are being a true wanna grab you are [TS]

01:01:41   really toeing the line now I gotta [TS]

01:01:42   respect that I gotta respect that [TS]

01:01:44   what value Brady do you have any [TS]

01:01:45   thoughts I grew a really strong [TS]

01:01:48   attachment flag flag em and i would not [TS]

01:01:52   have been said it one who but it did not [TS]

01:01:55   win that did not weaken and nail and [TS]

01:01:58   gear is a flag and it is a magnificent [TS]

01:02:01   flag it is me [TS]

01:02:03   is magnificent it is that it is a worthy [TS]

01:02:05   winner because it's because it is what [TS]

01:02:07   the team's wanted [TS]

01:02:08   yeah it comes in a pro version and he [TS]

01:02:12   can get anything yet nailing the crow [TS]

01:02:14   you like that don't ya I knew you'd like [TS]

01:02:16   that I think that's great i love you i [TS]

01:02:20   just really wanted to quickly mention [TS]

01:02:22   our hot stopper fundraiser I was just [TS]

01:02:27   wondering about that the other day [TS]

01:02:28   yep there is a there is obviously we are [TS]

01:02:31   raising money for the Children's burns [TS]

01:02:33   trust here in the UK in the hope that [TS]

01:02:36   our campaigning to raise money for them [TS]

01:02:39   will also stick in the mind of starbucks [TS]

01:02:43   UK and get them to really get moving [TS]

01:02:46   with doing a better job of stop stalking [TS]

01:02:48   hot stoppers in all their branches [TS]

01:02:50   well i can't believe i'm working so hard [TS]

01:02:52   on this one it's your it's your thing [TS]

01:02:54   but anyway with that cases you're right [TS]

01:02:57   you are a media manipulators when you [TS]

01:02:59   are ready we have now raised over a [TS]

01:03:02   thousand pound a the children's burns [TS]

01:03:05   trust will put a link in the show notes [TS]

01:03:07   if you want to go and see the [TS]

01:03:08   fundraising page and come on starbucks [TS]

01:03:10   EK that's more than a thousand pounds [TS]

01:03:12   that people have paid in the interests [TS]

01:03:16   of hot stoppers and I think you should [TS]

01:03:17   be paying attention to that and those [TS]

01:03:19   hot stoppers they can't cost more than a [TS]

01:03:21   thousandth of a penny to manufacture [TS]

01:03:23   let's think of the like a hundred [TS]

01:03:25   thousand heart-stopper is right there [TS]

01:03:26   that's what that represents i would get [TS]

01:03:32   told off for that level of [TS]

01:03:33   simplification but anyway i'll let you [TS]

01:03:35   do it represented by doing ok but always [TS]

01:03:39   we need those hot stoppers just just two [TS]

01:03:44   days ago my wife sent me a photograph of [TS]

01:03:46   a heart-stopper disaster that could have [TS]

01:03:50   been prevented with some hot chocolate [TS]

01:03:51   that she got from starbucks and it [TS]

01:03:52   spilled everywhere out of the letters [TS]

01:03:54   like a simple heart stopper it would fix [TS]

01:03:55   this [TS]

01:03:56   it would be like this yeah don't you [TS]

01:03:58   know I've been doing really something [TS]

01:03:59   that one of the listeners suggested this [TS]

01:04:01   and when they first suggested I thought [TS]

01:04:03   oh well that's that's a sad thing that [TS]

01:04:06   I'll just never do but now i do it of [TS]

01:04:09   course which is had in starbucks to try [TS]

01:04:12   to at least mitigate heart-stopper like [TS]

01:04:16   problems [TS]

01:04:17   you take one of the straws and folded in [TS]

01:04:19   half and kind of shove it in the little [TS]

01:04:21   opening that's such an ungraceful ation [TS]

01:04:23   I hate it on so many levels it's it's [TS]

01:04:28   inelegant it's ugly [TS]

01:04:30   it doesn't even really work but here i [TS]

01:04:32   find myself doing this latina and it's [TS]

01:04:35   just it's just barbaric it is the only [TS]

01:04:39   way to describe this is like you have a [TS]

01:04:41   good perfect solution [TS]

01:04:42   well I've got I've got an idea gray what [TS]

01:04:44   why don't we take like that picture that [TS]

01:04:46   your wife talk and other pictures of [TS]

01:04:48   people with hot chocolate spill down [TS]

01:04:50   there watch shirts or sculpt marks on [TS]

01:04:52   their hands and for starbucks to print [TS]

01:04:55   them on their cups like the warnings [TS]

01:04:57   they have a cigarette packets like to [TS]

01:05:01   say be careful or this could happen to [TS]

01:05:03   you right and and for starbucks to [TS]

01:05:06   unless they're willing to stop hot [TS]

01:05:09   stoppers in other shops give them the [TS]

01:05:11   choice if you've had a serious spill as [TS]

01:05:15   a result of not having a heart-stopper [TS]

01:05:17   send us your pictures and we'll pull [TS]

01:05:20   together a photo archive of the worst [TS]

01:05:23   disasters that could have been prevented [TS]

01:05:26   yeah had only starbucks use [TS]

01:05:28   heart-stopper I mean who know and maybe [TS]

01:05:30   the whole exxon valdez things could have [TS]

01:05:31   been avoided if there was a big enough [TS]

01:05:32   heart stopper look at that said that [TS]

01:05:35   they were is missing at the top of the [TS]

01:05:36   ship and they're just sailing around in [TS]

01:05:40   the open seas with a little hole at the [TS]

01:05:42   top well I'm sure this will never matter [TS]

01:05:43   everything goes fine if we did you just [TS]

01:05:47   drive more carefully we never have to [TS]

01:05:49   worry how can we stop this oil getting [TS]

01:05:52   add to the same i know captain will use [TS]

01:05:54   this giant heart-stopper good work Jim [TS]

01:05:56   there's been a bit of news gray news big [TS]

01:06:01   news for someone who makes videos about [TS]

01:06:03   the periodic table such as you could [TS]

01:06:05   friend Brady oh yeah yeah for new [TS]

01:06:09   elements have been confirmed as official [TS]

01:06:12   the final four elements on the [TS]

01:06:14   conventional periodic table actually so [TS]

01:06:17   now the people who have been responsible [TS]

01:06:19   for synthesizing these elements have [TS]

01:06:22   been told [TS]

01:06:23   ok you can [TS]

01:06:25   name them so we're going to have four [TS]

01:06:27   new elements named probably within the [TS]

01:06:29   next few months I suspect [TS]

01:06:30   ok to questions 2 questions i can be so [TS]

01:06:33   these are the elements that previously [TS]

01:06:35   had those like onion kind of names [TS]

01:06:39   that's correct in fact i'll tell you [TS]

01:06:41   exactly where thats that if you let me [TS]

01:06:42   call this up so the elements are a [TS]

01:06:44   hundred and thirteen a hundred and [TS]

01:06:46   fifteen hundred and seventeen and a [TS]

01:06:49   hundred and eighteen just for people [TS]

01:06:52   listening about to enter chemistry or [TS]

01:06:53   just really quickly explain what happens [TS]

01:06:56   is it's not like someone has been [TS]

01:06:57   digging in the ground and has found new [TS]

01:06:59   elements with these really big elements [TS]

01:07:01   they like they can't hold together [TS]

01:07:03   they're too big and they just fall apart [TS]

01:07:04   in less than a second [TS]

01:07:06   so what they do is they create these [TS]

01:07:07   huge particle accelerator machines and [TS]

01:07:10   smash atoms into each other [TS]

01:07:12   billions and billions and billions of [TS]

01:07:14   times and then just occasionally a [TS]

01:07:16   couple will stick to each other they'll [TS]

01:07:18   hit each other in just the perfect way [TS]

01:07:20   and now stick for a second and [TS]

01:07:22   scientists can do certain observations [TS]

01:07:23   to say yet a hundred thirteen was their [TS]

01:07:26   existing for a second or so and once all [TS]

01:07:28   the I's are dotted and the t's across [TS]

01:07:31   this organization called I you pack [TS]

01:07:34   which is in charge of the periodic table [TS]

01:07:35   and stuff says okay [TS]

01:07:37   done deal he did the job now you can [TS]

01:07:40   give it a name so these four elements [TS]

01:07:43   which are the only for that don't have [TS]

01:07:45   names on the existing periodic table [TS]

01:07:47   until they make it bigger and put [TS]

01:07:49   another row on yea what I was gonna say [TS]

01:07:51   like looking at a picture of periodic [TS]

01:07:53   table right now and yea though there [TS]

01:07:56   were always these like gaps on the [TS]

01:07:57   bottom of elements that we know should [TS]

01:08:00   be there but RA yeah in theory you can [TS]

01:08:02   keep smashing protons together and so [TS]

01:08:06   you could imagine a periodic table with [TS]

01:08:09   an additional row we just never made it [TS]

01:08:12   that way because it wasn't sensible yeah [TS]

01:08:14   because you just you just had a whole [TS]

01:08:16   row of fantasy elements right right okay [TS]

01:08:18   but now they made they may do that and [TS]

01:08:20   of course there is also the the famed [TS]

01:08:23   and possible island of stability where [TS]

01:08:26   they think maybe at certain numbers [TS]

01:08:28   atoms can actually hold together for [TS]

01:08:30   some time so there may be some numbers [TS]

01:08:33   up high [TS]

01:08:33   maybe in the hundred thirties where they [TS]

01:08:35   don't just fall apart in a nanosecond [TS]

01:08:38   and but anyway that's not what we're [TS]

01:08:39   here to talk about the thing the thing [TS]

01:08:41   that I think is interesting as possible [TS]

01:08:43   names for these four elements and I mean [TS]

01:08:47   it is it is fantasy chemistry because [TS]

01:08:49   these are obviously going to be named [TS]

01:08:50   for are probably a lot more political [TS]

01:08:53   and national no I'm sure not sure not [TS]

01:08:55   known to have been a hundred and [TS]

01:08:57   thirteen is definitely going to have a [TS]

01:08:59   Japanese name because there's no [TS]

01:09:02   Japanese name on the periodic table and [TS]

01:09:05   this was discovered by a Japanese [TS]

01:09:06   collaboration so they're obviously going [TS]

01:09:08   to take their chance to name an element [TS]

01:09:09   after japan or something like that [TS]

01:09:12   japan IAM yeah well yeah it could be [TS]

01:09:14   anything you know the pony amor Narnian [TS]

01:09:16   or something [TS]

01:09:17   tokyo am and I but I I imagine that's [TS]

01:09:20   going to get a Japanese name but a [TS]

01:09:22   hundred and fifteen hundred 1719 are all [TS]

01:09:26   done by this sort of russian-american [TS]

01:09:28   collaboration so they have been showing [TS]

01:09:32   form recently if going down very [TS]

01:09:34   nationalistic grounds and i have on good [TS]

01:09:37   authority [TS]

01:09:38   this is this is a wink wink you know [TS]

01:09:41   possible Gaza that that Moscow vm is [TS]

01:09:46   going to be one of them [TS]

01:09:47   oh interesting but that's sort of just a [TS]

01:09:50   rumor doing the rounds over doing the [TS]

01:09:52   rounds in the chemistry community [TS]

01:09:54   let's go p.m. sounds good it's a good [TS]

01:09:56   name it does sound good to be fair but [TS]

01:09:58   the Germans who synthesized a lot of [TS]

01:10:01   elements they've recently named an [TS]

01:10:02   element carbonates IAM after Copernicus [TS]

01:10:04   and they could have named planky amor [TS]

01:10:07   named after a German but they didn't [TS]

01:10:09   they named after Copernicus so there is [TS]

01:10:12   hit there is precedent for people saying [TS]

01:10:15   you know what let's be big about this [TS]

01:10:17   and named after someone that deserves a [TS]

01:10:19   rather than just being nationalistic if [TS]

01:10:22   it was up to you if if the queen of [TS]

01:10:24   diamonds was given the authority to name [TS]

01:10:26   an element how is it become the queen of [TS]

01:10:29   diamonds is the title as opposed to the [TS]

01:10:30   playing card that i am but when this [TS]

01:10:35   which happen i don't even know that when [TS]

01:10:38   did anything happen with already [TS]

01:10:39   elements any people or places or things [TS]

01:10:41   you'd like to see honored because I [TS]

01:10:43   think being honored with the name of an [TS]

01:10:44   element that I mean that's bigger than a [TS]

01:10:46   Nobel Prize I think that's like that's [TS]

01:10:48   massive [TS]

01:10:49   would you rather have an element's named [TS]

01:10:52   after you or would you rather have the [TS]

01:10:54   million francs of the Nobel Prize and [TS]

01:10:56   the Nobel Prize element named after me [TS]

01:10:58   really yeah really interesting what [TS]

01:11:01   about you [TS]

01:11:02   uh yeah i think i just i take the money [TS]

01:11:07   and the the career opportunities that [TS]

01:11:11   Nobel Prize would afford what you don't [TS]

01:11:13   think being the only living person with [TS]

01:11:15   an element named after you because [TS]

01:11:16   elements can only be named after dead [TS]

01:11:18   people according to the Rose you don't [TS]

01:11:20   think being a living person an element [TS]

01:11:21   named after you wouldn't provide [TS]

01:11:22   marketing opportunities not very many [TS]

01:11:25   not very many no yeah yeah okay maybe [TS]

01:11:28   around like that so that's the kind of [TS]

01:11:30   thing that's like out this is an [TS]

01:11:32   interesting piece of trivia at a party [TS]

01:11:34   but if I have a career where I've I've [TS]

01:11:36   won a Nobel Prize and i also have the [TS]

01:11:39   million francs this is this is something [TS]

01:11:40   is something that means something to me [TS]

01:11:42   but the periodic table is immortality [TS]

01:11:45   mmm there is someone who was asked that [TS]

01:11:47   question who had both honors and that [TS]

01:11:50   was Glenn Seaborg seaborgium was named [TS]

01:11:52   after him it was named after him while [TS]

01:11:54   he was alive which was an exception [TS]

01:11:55   uh-huh and he won a Nobel Prize and he [TS]

01:11:58   said having the element named after him [TS]

01:12:00   meant more to him and was the greater [TS]

01:12:01   honor [TS]

01:12:02   well yeah but he's also he was also a [TS]

01:12:04   chemist think it's a bit severe I'm not [TS]

01:12:06   a chemist and yes sorry chemistry but [TS]

01:12:10   you were always one of my least favorite [TS]

01:12:11   sciences I was never very good at [TS]

01:12:12   chemistry I i found it to be boring [TS]

01:12:16   stamp collecting as all physicists do [TS]

01:12:18   cancer that's why I like a periodic [TS]

01:12:20   table [TS]

01:12:21   ok I'll take the money is what i will do [TS]

01:12:23   a before before i get a million tweets [TS]

01:12:26   from everybody I have in my old age now [TS]

01:12:29   load in my thoughts on chemistry and not [TS]

01:12:31   much more fun with it now that I used to [TS]

01:12:33   be [TS]

01:12:33   please please don't send me do three [TS]

01:12:36   like are you need to understand how [TS]

01:12:37   important chemistry is it's like yeah I [TS]

01:12:38   get it I get it [TS]

01:12:40   he used to be a real jerk about it well [TS]

01:12:43   that well that's said any thoughts about [TS]

01:12:45   names developments anything [TS]

01:12:47   well so here's the problem because [TS]

01:12:49   chemistry is not my strong suit I've I [TS]

01:12:52   would have a hard time coming up with a [TS]

01:12:54   chemistry person [TS]

01:12:57   who is not already honored on the [TS]

01:12:59   periodic table or Copernicus wasn't a [TS]

01:13:02   chemist this decision was just taken [TS]

01:13:03   that he was a great man of science and [TS]

01:13:05   deserve to be honored on this icon of [TS]

01:13:06   science [TS]

01:13:07   yeah I can see that copernic come and [TS]

01:13:10   that's not a great name [TS]

01:13:11   it's not a great i think people tend to [TS]

01:13:13   say carbonate see him go copernicium mmm [TS]

01:13:16   i think this is like the americium which [TS]

01:13:18   I was thought was America like it's a [TS]

01:13:19   terrible name for this American that's [TS]

01:13:22   awful [TS]

01:13:23   let me see me in that region you know [TS]

01:13:26   yet [TS]

01:13:26   yeah but i'm thinking of scientists of [TS]

01:13:30   course my favorite scientist is fine men [TS]

01:13:32   well this is one that comes up a lot [TS]

01:13:33   fine medium is discussed a lot as a [TS]

01:13:35   possible name was not a hundred percent [TS]

01:13:37   sure actually if you had one of the [TS]

01:13:39   crazy elements at the end but i think [TS]

01:13:41   i'm confusing it with what it's a [TS]

01:13:43   hundred as fermium formulas the yeah [TS]

01:13:46   that's Enrico Fermi right that's because [TS]

01:13:48   we have that who are actual science [TS]

01:13:50   hasn't we've got curium alright we've [TS]

01:13:53   got mine Stein IAM yeah fermium [TS]

01:13:55   mendelevium what else is there i'm [TS]

01:14:00   trying to sleep organ of course [TS]

01:14:02   seaborgium I don't think I actually [TS]

01:14:04   realized until your story was a person [TS]

01:14:06   nobelium nobelium lawrencium how you're [TS]

01:14:11   good at this lawrencium carbon after mr. [TS]

01:14:14   carbon it going after every gold from [TS]

01:14:19   entourage right now so I'm out apps [TS]

01:14:25   silver after David silver from Beverly [TS]

01:14:27   Hills now today we go in deep now so [TS]

01:14:34   yeah i mean i don't know i think but but [TS]

01:14:36   the problem is that I I just like [TS]

01:14:39   Fineman and no small part because of his [TS]

01:14:41   books and his stories and is just [TS]

01:14:43   incredible captivating way of talking [TS]

01:14:46   like I've seen all of the videos have of [TS]

01:14:48   him talking and listen to his physics [TS]

01:14:49   lectures and everything in a big firemen [TS]

01:14:51   fan i don't know if i was a serious [TS]

01:14:53   scientist and sitting down and thinking [TS]

01:14:55   like wow I have the responsibility of [TS]

01:14:57   coming up with the element named what am [TS]

01:14:59   I going to pick i don't know if i would [TS]

01:15:01   pick Fineman companies IAM is more [TS]

01:15:05   possible because it's just like Oh a [TS]

01:15:08   great man of science from a long time [TS]

01:15:10   ago is [TS]

01:15:11   seems very different to me than a modern [TS]

01:15:12   physicist yeah I can't explain it very [TS]

01:15:15   well but it just seems right in my mind [TS]

01:15:17   that that's yeah I think Isaac Newton [TS]

01:15:19   Isaac Newton it's not on the periodic [TS]

01:15:21   table [TS]

01:15:22   yeah yeah and it feels like he shouldn't [TS]

01:15:24   be now you're on the Kenai dimension [TS]

01:15:27   can I just mention one other scientists [TS]

01:15:29   that we forgot to mention having an [TS]

01:15:30   element named after them [TS]

01:15:31   yeah and that is Lisa Meitner and mine [TS]

01:15:34   area and the only reason i want to [TS]

01:15:36   mention that is because she was [TS]

01:15:37   absolutely snubbed for the Nobel Prize [TS]

01:15:40   when she shouldn't have been and the one [TS]

01:15:42   saving grace was they named an element [TS]

01:15:44   after her to make it up for her and if [TS]

01:15:46   we then forgot to mention a little bit [TS]

01:15:47   named after her it would have been like [TS]

01:15:49   deliciously ironic that she got [TS]

01:15:51   forgotten again so i want to mention [TS]

01:15:53   Lisa might now it's like that's a 1099 [TS]

01:15:57   Miriam minor more I don't know [TS]

01:15:59   yeah you're right is Boreum rather 40m [TS]

01:16:02   of quarterbacks this whole bunch that [TS]

01:16:05   we're missing our bad [TS]

01:16:06   yeah but we're joking about silver at a [TS]

01:16:12   stop stop screaming at the podcast [TS]

01:16:13   people [TS]

01:16:14   yeah i think all the gamers have checked [TS]

01:16:16   out by now but what about You Brady what [TS]

01:16:19   do you think what do you think for the [TS]

01:16:20   names do you know what I asked you [TS]

01:16:22   earlier to come up with some suggestions [TS]

01:16:24   and yeah I have really going to get my [TS]

01:16:26   hope my fuckin I kind of like it when [TS]

01:16:28   they named them and I what I quite like [TS]

01:16:32   them being named after places sometimes [TS]

01:16:34   but there's not many American places [TS]

01:16:36   left though the San Francisco am but [TS]

01:16:40   I've gotta Kelly I'm named after [TS]

01:16:41   berkeley that I was saying San Francisco [TS]

01:16:43   Liam and I've got californium the one [TS]

01:16:46   place that has been involved with this [TS]

01:16:47   that hasn't been acknowledged is the [TS]

01:16:51   facility at oakridge in Tennessee [TS]

01:16:54   I mean could we get Tennessee neum I [TS]

01:16:57   don't know [TS]

01:16:58   tinium I don't know how to go i mean i [TS]

01:17:00   like i like the sound of plane qiyam and [TS]

01:17:03   I think max planck was a pretty spot-on [TS]

01:17:04   scientist and his clothes close-ish to [TS]

01:17:07   chemistry [TS]

01:17:08   sort of yeah but then you know I have a [TS]

01:17:10   Japanese Russians or Americans going to [TS]

01:17:13   honor max planck to doubt it [TS]

01:17:15   you know what we should go in a [TS]

01:17:16   radically different way here hmm why [TS]

01:17:19   don't we just left with somehow we're in [TS]

01:17:21   charge now is in my mind okay [TS]

01:17:23   visit this is flipped his staff and I [TS]

01:17:26   think with an idea and suddenly decided [TS]

01:17:28   on the garage [TS]

01:17:29   hey we've got a postbox let's haven't [TS]

01:17:31   decided to post guards yeah why don't we [TS]

01:17:34   just come up with new names like why [TS]

01:17:37   does it doesn't have to be named after [TS]

01:17:38   something like something like there's so [TS]

01:17:40   many of the elements that the name is [TS]

01:17:42   just what it is like yeah just call it [TS]

01:17:44   like a result [TS]

01:17:47   well yeah but its general zod from [TS]

01:17:48   Superman which might not be might not be [TS]

01:17:50   the best choice but i hate probably he [TS]

01:17:52   probably hasn't done enough to have an [TS]

01:17:54   element named after him at the stage now [TS]

01:17:56   he has yeah okay although his viral [TS]

01:17:59   video of being an angry college sorority [TS]

01:18:02   girl was very good but probably not not [TS]

01:18:05   periodic table where they are exactly [TS]

01:18:07   not yet yeah very good be Becky I'm [TS]

01:18:10   would be his element there like the [TS]

01:18:13   early names of the elements oxygen [TS]

01:18:16   helium carbon nitrogen aluminum silver [TS]

01:18:19   gold [TS]

01:18:20   these are these are words that means [TS]

01:18:22   something because they're just the [TS]

01:18:23   sequence of sounds that are an element [TS]

01:18:25   name [TS]

01:18:26   why don't we just come up with another [TS]

01:18:27   sequence of sounds are plenty of unused [TS]

01:18:29   sequence of sounds I think this is a [TS]

01:18:31   radical direction that we need to go but [TS]

01:18:33   I think that's what I'm coming down know [TS]

01:18:35   why I standardized at the way they have [TS]

01:18:37   there must be a reason that these mDM's [TS]

01:18:39   maybe it's just like just to make them [TS]

01:18:42   obviously elements but but I i'm [TS]

01:18:45   thinking we need we need something else [TS]

01:18:46   that's like a gold right just a word [TS]

01:18:49   there is unused sounds inventing words [TS]

01:18:52   as as a now famous inventor of words [TS]

01:18:55   right i can tell you your profession [TS]

01:18:56   hear ya inventing words it's not easy [TS]

01:18:59   that was it yeah but see you are playing [TS]

01:19:02   the game on hard mode where you're [TS]

01:19:04   trying to come up with word that you [TS]

01:19:05   want to have spread throughout the [TS]

01:19:07   general population whereas most people [TS]

01:19:10   are never going to be casually referring [TS]

01:19:13   to element 113 in their conversations so [TS]

01:19:17   you don't have to play that game you [TS]

01:19:19   just have to say listen with where the [TS]

01:19:22   people deciding the names for the [TS]

01:19:24   periodic tables and it is such that 1 13 [TS]

01:19:27   is now this sequence of sounds you can [TS]

01:19:29   just declare it so it's so much easier [TS]

01:19:31   way to do it this way [TS]

01:19:34   and I have to be catching that I think I [TS]

01:19:36   think we need just arbitrary sequences [TS]

01:19:38   of sounds for these developments that [TS]

01:19:41   might as well enjoy discussing it but [TS]

01:19:43   obviously that's ridiculous not gonna [TS]

01:19:44   happen to me but it's not a ridiculous [TS]

01:19:46   idea though it's not no it not a [TS]

01:19:50   ridiculous ideas no it's not ridiculous [TS]

01:19:51   it would be unfair to call the [TS]

01:19:53   ridiculous [TS]

01:19:54   yeah exactly it's a good idea it's not [TS]

01:19:57   very workable do the scientists have the [TS]

01:19:59   final say about what the name is going [TS]

01:20:01   to be if so i hope they listen to this [TS]

01:20:03   podcast with the Japanese people should [TS]

01:20:05   just go freestyle on site has to be a [TS]

01:20:07   Japanese character [TS]

01:20:08   yeah that would be great yeah okay i [TS]

01:20:12   would actually really like it if they do [TS]

01:20:14   that [TS]

01:20:15   japanese team you know what you have to [TS]

01:20:16   do just hang out there at the bottom of [TS]

01:20:18   the periodic table is really overly [TS]

01:20:20   complicated Japanese character with [TS]

01:20:22   Jennings man with two shoes synthesizes [TS]

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01:21:28   want to download Guns Germs and Steel [TS]

01:21:30   from audible now two things about this [TS]

01:21:34   suggestion first this is one of the rare [TS]

01:21:37   times when I'm actually happy to [TS]

01:21:39   recommend the abridged version of the [TS]

01:21:42   audiobook now of course audible because [TS]

01:21:44   they have [TS]

01:21:45   everything they have the full version [TS]

01:21:46   which is something like 16 hours long [TS]

01:21:49   but they also have the abridged version [TS]

01:21:51   and in my perspective jared diamond is a [TS]

01:21:55   little repetitive sometimes and has lots [TS]

01:22:00   and lots of additional details so i [TS]

01:22:03   think the abridged version is the one to [TS]

01:22:06   go for [TS]

01:22:07   and secondly if you do start listening [TS]

01:22:09   as with other books that i've [TS]

01:22:10   recommended in the past I have a bit of [TS]

01:22:12   a suggestion of where to start you want [TS]

01:22:14   to begin with the prologue which sets up [TS]

01:22:16   this whole notion of yoli's question [TS]

01:22:18   which is kind of the fundamental [TS]

01:22:20   question of the book but when you're [TS]

01:22:21   listening to the prologue is going to [TS]

01:22:23   come some point where you zone out for a [TS]

01:22:25   moment and that's Jared Diamond becoming [TS]

01:22:26   very Jared Diamond D at that moment my [TS]

01:22:28   suggestion is you just open up your [TS]

01:22:31   audible app and jump forward to two [TS]

01:22:34   hours 8 minutes and 30 seconds that will [TS]

01:22:37   bring you to chapter 6 which is called [TS]

01:22:39   how to make an almond the previous two [TS]

01:22:42   hours in case you're wondering is [TS]

01:22:43   basically the setup of at 10,000 years [TS]

01:22:46   ago humans lived everywhere and had [TS]

01:22:49   roughly the same level of technology [TS]

01:22:50   everywhere [TS]

01:22:51   that's all you missed so that's my [TS]

01:22:52   suggestion for this week to be a good [TS]

01:22:54   hello Internet listener is to grab [TS]

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01:23:18   alright say bi weekly weigh-in your [TS]

01:23:25   favorite Brady well that's that's [TS]

01:23:28   interesting i haven't I haven't got a [TS]

01:23:30   white for you how and why don't you have [TS]

01:23:32   to wait for me why don't you have a [TS]

01:23:33   weight i haven't had white myself today [TS]

01:23:35   but you have you weighed yourself [TS]

01:23:37   recently i weighed myself about a week [TS]

01:23:41   ago and I was pretty much the same as I [TS]

01:23:43   was the previous time i weighed myself [TS]

01:23:45   which kind of surprised me because of [TS]

01:23:48   how much I over christmas but you make [TS]

01:23:50   it through the holidays without gaining [TS]

01:23:51   weight I think I must have put a bit on [TS]

01:23:53   but [TS]

01:23:54   I think I'd already put it on before [TS]

01:23:56   that and I just haven't I haven't done [TS]

01:23:58   it gray but i have but i have but i do [TS]

01:24:01   want to talk about two feet from last [TS]

01:24:02   our oh yeah yeah because i have i have [TS]

01:24:07   been getting really energized about it [TS]

01:24:09   even though even though I sound like I [TS]

01:24:10   don't care because they can really you [TS]

01:24:12   really cavalier about it [TS]

01:24:14   well first of all let's do your what are [TS]

01:24:17   your way in IE you know you have all the [TS]

01:24:19   graphs heading in the right direction [TS]

01:24:21   it all good in the world of grey well no [TS]

01:24:23   because when the christmas season came [TS]

01:24:26   around i briefly toyed with the idea of [TS]

01:24:29   trying to stay on target stay on target [TS]

01:24:32   for the holiday season because I was [TS]

01:24:35   approaching a 200 pounds the roast [TS]

01:24:37   potatoes getting too close to be happy [TS]

01:24:39   and if you look at my if you look at my [TS]

01:24:43   weight chart December 21st i was at 203 [TS]

01:24:48   pounds which of course I'm trying really [TS]

01:24:50   hard to get under 200 and i remember [TS]

01:24:52   having this little mental conversation [TS]

01:24:53   about like man I could just buckle down [TS]

01:24:55   and I could make it to under 200 by [TS]

01:24:58   january first I was like nope had people [TS]

01:25:02   like that happen and so I immediately [TS]

01:25:05   gained eight pounds over the holidays [TS]

01:25:08   and then I am losing it very quickly but [TS]

01:25:11   i'm back down to 206 but the bottom line [TS]

01:25:13   is I'm still fatter than I was before [TS]

01:25:14   the holidays so that's my that's the [TS]

01:25:16   short version of my story but things [TS]

01:25:18   best sounds like you know that's an [TS]

01:25:20   acceptable bumpin you get back on the [TS]

01:25:22   horse remarkably yeah [TS]

01:25:24   remarkably the weight is coming off very [TS]

01:25:26   fast again and as we have discussed [TS]

01:25:27   before on the podcast one of the main [TS]

01:25:29   skills of the theater on lifestyle is [TS]

01:25:32   getting back on the wagon like that is [TS]

01:25:35   the skill that you are cultivating tell [TS]

01:25:38   you what i have found just recently [TS]

01:25:40   yeah right i haven't gotten back [TS]

01:25:42   together with food that I want and I [TS]

01:25:44   know food is the most important thing to [TS]

01:25:46   to you know really lose some weight and [TS]

01:25:49   i do want to lose some weight but i also [TS]

01:25:50   want to be healthier and the thing that [TS]

01:25:52   I found really motivating and i'm not [TS]

01:25:54   saying this you know i'm not saying bye [TS]

01:25:56   teacher or anything but I got my feet on [TS]

01:25:58   5,000 t-shirts the other day [TS]

01:26:01   and since getting them i have found that [TS]

01:26:04   really like inspiration of you have been [TS]

01:26:06   and I've been where and I've been [TS]

01:26:08   putting them on and going to the gym and [TS]

01:26:10   running but because of this arbitrary [TS]

01:26:12   5,000 number which you just pulled out [TS]

01:26:14   of nowhere when we were when we were [TS]

01:26:16   making it up on the spot [TS]

01:26:18   I've just run with it and I'm running [TS]

01:26:20   5,000 meters [TS]

01:26:22   every time I go to the gym like I get on [TS]

01:26:24   the treadmill and I run 5,000 meters and [TS]

01:26:27   I'm saying if i can do it how quickly I [TS]

01:26:29   can do and I'm trying to bring my x down [TS]

01:26:31   and the other thing that really inspired [TS]

01:26:34   me and also completely depressed me was [TS]

01:26:36   Henry of minutephysics same blue he got [TS]

01:26:41   a Fiat Ron 5,000 t-shirt and Henry for [TS]

01:26:44   those who don't know is a very fit young [TS]

01:26:46   man and quite the athlete who and he [TS]

01:26:49   made a video of himself wearing the [TS]

01:26:52   furniture on 5,000 t-shirt and he ran [TS]

01:26:54   5,000 meters out in the snow and he [TS]

01:26:57   actually ran over 5,000 meters because [TS]

01:26:59   that's just what he did and he ran in [TS]

01:27:01   this ridiculous time of less than [TS]

01:27:03   eighteen and a half minutes [TS]

01:27:04   I mean he should be in the Olympics yeah [TS]

01:27:06   in fact I think I checked and there was [TS]

01:27:08   a time when that would almost have been [TS]

01:27:10   a world record I'm not surprised but and [TS]

01:27:14   I'm never going to get anywhere near his [TS]

01:27:15   time but i have found a really [TS]

01:27:19   motivating and i'm really enjoying going [TS]

01:27:21   to the gym and and having this set [TS]

01:27:23   distance I have to run and at the end of [TS]

01:27:25   each round I take a photo of the time [TS]

01:27:26   and then I come home and put it in a [TS]

01:27:27   spreadsheet and I've got I've got really [TS]

01:27:31   into her and I know it's early days but [TS]

01:27:33   the last few days in particular I've [TS]

01:27:36   even mean I've commented to my wife that [TS]

01:27:38   i'm working really well when i'm i'm [TS]

01:27:40   having less fellow periods at work and [TS]

01:27:42   I'm I'm getting more done each day and I [TS]

01:27:44   said I said I can't explain what's going [TS]

01:27:46   on she said it's probably because you're [TS]

01:27:48   running and exercising and I was like it [TS]

01:27:51   probably is [TS]

01:27:52   whenever I didn't even think of that mm [TS]

01:27:55   maybe this is maybe like this is you [TS]

01:27:58   know so maybe I'm not losing those away [TS]

01:27:59   but maybe just removing some blood [TS]

01:28:01   around and I know I sound like an idiot [TS]

01:28:05   like I've just discovered that exercise [TS]

01:28:06   is good for me [TS]

01:28:07   paperback [TS]

01:28:08   but as I have but this is the subjective [TS]

01:28:11   experience of it right yes is that it it [TS]

01:28:15   like it sneaks it sneaks in in an [TS]

01:28:19   unexpected way that you can sort of you [TS]

01:28:21   cannot really notice until it's been [TS]

01:28:26   happening for a while [TS]

01:28:27   that's so yeah this is totally [TS]

01:28:29   understandable 5,000 meters is a really [TS]

01:28:33   I think it's a really almost perfect [TS]

01:28:35   distance like like I don't know if [TS]

01:28:38   you're like some kind of genius or was [TS]

01:28:40   blind luck but it's almost like you [TS]

01:28:43   almost couldn't have picked a more [TS]

01:28:44   perfect distance because you know it [TS]

01:28:47   takes you know half an hour to run 5,000 [TS]

01:28:50   meters you know if you're just an [TS]

01:28:52   average runner I guess [TS]

01:28:53   normal person you know more than half an [TS]

01:28:55   arrogance but it's taking me a little [TS]

01:28:57   over half now but i'm getting it down so [TS]

01:29:00   it's like it's a good amount of time [TS]

01:29:01   it's not like you know some ridiculous [TS]

01:29:03   marathon it doesn't kill your body to do [TS]

01:29:05   it semi-regularly it's not so sure that [TS]

01:29:09   it's not worth the effort [TS]

01:29:10   it's a very it's a really good distance [TS]

01:29:11   so yeah so it's it's funny that you say [TS]

01:29:19   this Brady because there there's a thing [TS]

01:29:23   that I had been keeping a secret from [TS]

01:29:26   you which is just so strange to me that [TS]

01:29:31   I can hardly even understand how or why [TS]

01:29:34   I'm doing it but i actually started [TS]

01:29:38   trying to run right and they get I know [TS]

01:29:44   that the people you need to understand i [TS]

01:29:48   think i have literally not run except [TS]

01:29:52   for occasional sprints in dulles airport [TS]

01:29:54   force close connections because it ends [TS]

01:29:56   of those godforsaken terminals but aside [TS]

01:30:00   from that I think I have literally not [TS]

01:30:02   run for the entirety of my adult life [TS]

01:30:07   and [TS]

01:30:09   just about a month ago it just it came [TS]

01:30:12   into my head of like why don't you try [TS]

01:30:14   to run five thousand readers like this [TS]

01:30:16   this idea came unbidden from nowhere [TS]

01:30:19   popped into my head and my thought was [TS]

01:30:22   but but I hate running and then I [TS]

01:30:25   thought about it more and it was the [TS]

01:30:26   answer was do I though like do I know [TS]

01:30:30   that I hate running like I i don't think [TS]

01:30:32   i actually no i think that i think i [TS]

01:30:35   hate to run and so I happen to be [TS]

01:30:39   traveling and I happen to be in Germany [TS]

01:30:41   out of the blue out of nowhere [TS]

01:30:43   I got a little training appt for running [TS]

01:30:46   and I went outside to run in a park in [TS]

01:30:50   Germany it was just completely out of [TS]

01:30:51   character and completely surprising to [TS]

01:30:53   me and since then i have been very very [TS]

01:30:57   very slowly trying to build up the [TS]

01:31:01   amount that i run and when I do it comes [TS]

01:31:04   out there running and I'm still thinking [TS]

01:31:05   I think I don't like this but I don't [TS]

01:31:09   know but I'm trying to get to the point [TS]

01:31:11   where i can actually run 5,000 meters [TS]

01:31:14   and then i will feel like well then i [TS]

01:31:16   can make an informed decision about [TS]

01:31:18   whether or not I actually like running [TS]

01:31:21   or I don't but I to think that somehow [TS]

01:31:24   like the finished Ron 5,000 lifestyle in [TS]

01:31:27   some bizarre way like that number 5000 [TS]

01:31:30   got into my brain and I'm like oh I know [TS]

01:31:32   there are races that are 5k and some [TS]

01:31:35   part of my brain just decided let's go [TS]

01:31:37   for this we like we don't run and let's [TS]

01:31:39   try to get to the point where i can run [TS]

01:31:41   5,000 meters and I am baffled by this [TS]

01:31:44   behavior in myself but here Pierre I am [TS]

01:31:47   Here I am [TS]

01:31:48   well sort of distances are you want at [TS]

01:31:50   the moment and what kind of space to run [TS]

01:31:51   at when i run Brady my spirit animal is [TS]

01:31:55   a turtle right that you have this little [TS]

01:31:59   training program on my phone which tries [TS]

01:32:01   to be super gentle where it's like walk [TS]

01:32:03   four seven minutes and then after seven [TS]

01:32:06   minutes it beeps and it goes ok just jog [TS]

01:32:08   very slowly for a minute and then after [TS]

01:32:12   the minute it's okay get back to walking [TS]

01:32:13   out walk for another 5 minutes right now [TS]

01:32:15   just trying to build you up and when it [TS]

01:32:17   got to the point where I had to run for [TS]

01:32:19   five minutes in a row i thought like I [TS]

01:32:21   was going to die [TS]

01:32:22   like I just my body is so not built for [TS]

01:32:25   running at the moment I'd have to look [TS]

01:32:27   at the exact times but it is taking me a [TS]

01:32:29   hell of a long time to go 5,000 meters [TS]

01:32:32   and i am walking the vast vast majority [TS]

01:32:35   of it but i feel like i'm just going to [TS]

01:32:38   follow this little program and build [TS]

01:32:39   this up slowly and I think it's probably [TS]

01:32:42   going to take like two months or [TS]

01:32:43   something to get to the maybe the point [TS]

01:32:45   where I'm actually running 5,000 meters [TS]

01:32:47   but I'm fine going nice and slow and [TS]

01:32:50   here so it's just it's a thing that is [TS]

01:32:52   unexpected to me you're doing outside [TS]

01:32:54   you're not doing it like a treadmill [TS]

01:32:56   you're doing like you have the wild [TS]

01:32:58   that's the other thing i'm outside and I [TS]

01:33:01   i bought running pants Brady like the [TS]

01:33:03   kind of pain that you see runners where [TS]

01:33:05   we're at like tight lycra yeah like [TS]

01:33:08   tight like a running pants [TS]

01:33:10   I don't even know why I did this you [TS]

01:33:12   know i was joking you're actually [TS]

01:33:14   wearing tight like running pants yeah I [TS]

01:33:16   really am I have no idea why it's like I [TS]

01:33:18   am totally confused by this [TS]

01:33:21   yes so why everybody's gonna fuse you [TS]

01:33:24   don't have to wear tight lycra you don't [TS]

01:33:26   really like shorts [TS]

01:33:27   I just wanted to I went into a store and [TS]

01:33:29   I did the whole thing with it where i'm [TS]

01:33:31   like i told the sales guys like I've [TS]

01:33:33   never run before ever and i just want to [TS]

01:33:34   get some running shoes and some gear and [TS]

01:33:36   it like just tell me what I need to get [TS]

01:33:38   and then I walked out of the store with [TS]

01:33:39   a bunch of stuff sexy flanders yeah [TS]

01:33:43   sexy sexy slanders you know why people [TS]

01:33:47   say this is being a cliche and i'm going [TS]

01:33:48   to say now because it's actually true [TS]

01:33:50   and i found true when I when I go into [TS]

01:33:52   running a little while back when I did a [TS]

01:33:53   half marathon and it's this is true on [TS]

01:33:56   for me on their luck on the individual [TS]

01:33:59   run bases but also on the the big [TS]

01:34:01   picture over the months you do it at the [TS]

01:34:04   start you don't enjoy it and then you [TS]

01:34:07   start to really love her and that's true [TS]

01:34:09   on an individual run the first five [TS]

01:34:11   minutes you think uh what am i doing [TS]

01:34:13   this is gonna take forever and then [TS]

01:34:14   after about five to ten minutes of [TS]

01:34:16   running this the rest of it is actually [TS]

01:34:18   quite enjoyable thing but also on the [TS]

01:34:21   big-scale the first month of us are [TS]

01:34:23   running your thinking on this is such a [TS]

01:34:24   grind and then it becomes something you [TS]

01:34:26   start looking forward to if you can get [TS]

01:34:28   through that first period so i'll be [TS]

01:34:30   curious to see whether or not you have [TS]

01:34:32   the same experience [TS]

01:34:33   yeah I am determined to stick with this [TS]

01:34:35   like [TS]

01:34:36   I haven't exercised over the past week [TS]

01:34:38   because of the holiday and because of [TS]

01:34:39   some various things but i'm getting [TS]

01:34:41   right back on tomorrow actually is the [TS]

01:34:43   schedule next run [TS]

01:34:44   I am determined to be able to again by [TS]

01:34:47   run I mean jog like a turtle by him i am [TS]

01:34:51   determined to be able to jog for 5,000 [TS]

01:34:55   meters and then at that point i will [TS]

01:34:57   decide if this is a thing that I want to [TS]

01:34:58   keep doing more or not keep doing but [TS]

01:35:01   yeah it's it's a it's an interesting [TS]

01:35:04   experience and I just I I don't quite [TS]

01:35:07   know how to describe it yet and actually [TS]

01:35:09   just by total accident the the very [TS]

01:35:11   first time that I went running I didn't [TS]

01:35:14   have any headphones with me so I was [TS]

01:35:15   just outside without any music or [TS]

01:35:18   anything and I was talking to Henry [TS]

01:35:21   actually because I was asking him for [TS]

01:35:22   some beginner tips because I figured if [TS]

01:35:24   anybody knew about running it was Henry [TS]

01:35:26   and his suggestion was to keep doing it [TS]

01:35:30   without listening to any music which [TS]

01:35:31   would be my natural co2 like oh yeah i [TS]

01:35:33   gotta have some workout songs [TS]

01:35:34   mhm and I don't know if anybody else [TS]

01:35:38   wants to try doing running I think [TS]

01:35:42   Henry's right i think doing it without [TS]

01:35:44   music somehow feels like the correct [TS]

01:35:48   thing to do [TS]

01:35:50   I can't quite explain it it's like it is [TS]

01:35:52   sort of boring but it just feels right i [TS]

01:35:56   think that's true for outdoor running [TS]

01:35:57   I'm not sure it's true for Kim's i'm [TS]

01:36:00   going to agree with you there i think if [TS]

01:36:01   i was on a treadmill at the gym I would [TS]

01:36:04   have to listen to something about it but [TS]

01:36:06   for running outdoors it feels right to [TS]

01:36:08   not have to not have the headphones on [TS]

01:36:11   you've stuck with the headphone free [TS]

01:36:13   have you haven't yet gone to headphone [TS]

01:36:15   sense that have not gone to headphone [TS]

01:36:16   sense that's interesting that's good [TS]

01:36:18   that's very interesting to him [TS]

01:36:20   yeah it was it just a coincidence but [TS]

01:36:22   Henry suggested that I i keep trying it [TS]

01:36:25   that way when I had accidentally done at [TS]

01:36:27   the first time and I thought well this [TS]

01:36:28   man knows running i'm going to talk to [TS]

01:36:30   follow his advice and I think he's right [TS]

01:36:31   i think is right [TS]

01:36:32   d where you're finished 15 thousand [TS]

01:36:35   t-shirt when you run i have gear that [TS]

01:36:38   fits me perfectly has to be all yet [TS]

01:36:41   6060 planned as likely as it also [TS]

01:36:44   because i'm out like I'm out in the park [TS]

01:36:47   running around [TS]

01:36:48   and i'm in my sexy flanders outfit this [TS]

01:36:51   is like the last time in the world I [TS]

01:36:55   would ever want to be recognized by [TS]

01:36:56   anyone i have actually done all my 5000 [TS]

01:37:00   meters in I'm yet to do one without my [TS]

01:37:02   feet on 5,000 t-shirt has become like [TS]

01:37:04   it's become like I have to do it now [TS]

01:37:06   have you been recognized at the gym [TS]

01:37:08   no I haven't but I was actually out the [TS]

01:37:11   other day [TS]

01:37:13   do it i was doing two things I shouldn't [TS]

01:37:16   have been doing [TS]

01:37:16   I was stuffing my face with a five guys [TS]

01:37:19   hot dog and then I went shopping for [TS]

01:37:21   underwear and then just after I finished [TS]

01:37:25   I thought well that would have been like [TS]

01:37:27   a bad time to get recognized and then I [TS]

01:37:29   went on Twitter and someone right I [TS]

01:37:31   can't believe i just saw [TS]

01:37:32   Brady Haran and that's why was I was 20 [TS]

01:37:35   I Sallust I didn't have the courage to [TS]

01:37:37   go up and say hello but it was nice to [TS]

01:37:38   see him moving and I was like our know [TS]

01:37:40   what was i doing [TS]

01:37:41   hmm and so I so I replied and said are [TS]

01:37:44   you should have come up and said hello [TS]

01:37:45   it would have been nice to meet you and [TS]

01:37:46   he said oh I didn't want to interrupt [TS]

01:37:48   you but you're really enjoying that hot [TS]

01:37:50   dog and I thought it could have been [TS]

01:37:55   worse he could have been looking as i [TS]

01:37:56   was perusing all the different [TS]

01:37:57   Underpants deciding which color I like [TS]

01:37:59   best [TS]

01:38:00   no no man that description of it looked [TS]

01:38:03   like you were really enjoy that sounds [TS]

01:38:06   pretty that thank you we're just eating [TS]

01:38:09   it like there's a man who's enjoying a [TS]

01:38:11   hot dog [TS]

01:38:12   I can't interrupt him now that's perfect [TS]

01:38:17   that's absolutely perfect [TS]

01:38:19   yeah it dry lifestyle hotdogs acceptable [TS]

01:38:25   what do I feel about this guilty about [TS]

01:38:27   hot dogs on days when I've done the [TS]

01:38:28   5,000 made us [TS]