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207: I Am Groot


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00:00:29   welcome back to the incomparable podcast [TS]

00:00:32   I'm your host Jason Snell and in this [TS]

00:00:34   episode which is very exciting week we [TS]

00:00:37   often will record far in advance and we [TS]

00:00:39   talk about things that happened far in [TS]

00:00:41   the past and I creates a timeless [TS]

00:00:43   quality which is great because you can [TS]

00:00:44   say hey go back and listen to episode 43 [TS]

00:00:46   and I don't even know which one that is [TS]

00:00:48   and it'll be as just as timely today as [TS]

00:00:52   it was back then and but we're going to [TS]

00:00:54   do something a little more current which [TS]

00:00:56   is we're going to talk about the [TS]

00:00:57   guardians of the galaxy which just came [TS]

00:00:59   out like a little more than a week ago [TS]

00:01:01   as we record this and we're going to get [TS]

00:01:04   out there are striking while the iron is [TS]

00:01:05   mildly warm as opposed to the usual cold [TS]

00:01:08   that it often is when we talk about [TS]

00:01:10   works and joining me to talk about the [TS]

00:01:13   latest Marvel spectacular film are a a [TS]

00:01:18   lovely collection of people including [TS]

00:01:19   but not limited to David J lower hi [TS]

00:01:24   David all come on man star lure also [TS]

00:01:28   joining us [TS]

00:01:29   Monty Ashley oh yeah and then there's [TS]

00:01:37   Tony sindelar i am tony and finally it's [TS]

00:01:45   good to have her back [TS]

00:01:46   serenity Caldwell hello hello I'm gonna [TS]

00:01:49   try not to suck all the joy out of [TS]

00:01:51   everything so also i'm in i'm informed [TS]

00:01:57   that our episode 43 is about fringe [TS]

00:01:59   which is currently streaming on netflix [TS]

00:02:01   so it's totally totally relevant [TS]

00:02:04   perfectly cromulent there you want to go [TS]

00:02:06   listen to episode 43 so guardians of the [TS]

00:02:10   galaxy [TS]

00:02:11   this is [TS]

00:02:13   yeah this is a fascinating film because [TS]

00:02:15   it is a Marvel movie in the Marvel [TS]

00:02:18   Cinematic Universe and yet with one [TS]

00:02:21   character I think connecting it to the [TS]

00:02:25   rest of everything that they've ever [TS]

00:02:26   done [TS]

00:02:28   obviously there are comics of guardians [TS]

00:02:30   of the galaxy that are connected in many [TS]

00:02:31   different ways but this is a step [TS]

00:02:33   outside of the comfort zone i think it [TS]

00:02:36   would it would be safe to say for from [TS]

00:02:39   Marvel it's a really different movie in [TS]

00:02:41   terms of topic in terms of location in [TS]

00:02:44   terms of tone and I thought we start [TS]

00:02:47   there is just like how how different [TS]

00:02:49   this movie is and how it feels like a [TS]

00:02:51   very different kind of movie then say [TS]

00:02:52   captain america or the Avengers yeah [TS]

00:02:55   well it doesn't have the all of Marvel [TS]

00:02:58   movies up to this point have had sort of [TS]

00:03:00   the grounded of fantastic realism to [TS]

00:03:04   them where it's the lake [TS]

00:03:06   yes the comic book universe is a [TS]

00:03:07   universe very similar to our own where [TS]

00:03:09   it's possible for people to rise up and [TS]

00:03:12   become greater than they are on whereas [TS]

00:03:16   this film very much bucks that almost [TS]

00:03:20   immediately [TS]

00:03:21   Hey look at our are overly normal the [TS]

00:03:24   first 10 minutes the movie without how [TS]

00:03:26   much we always spoiler warning [TS]

00:03:27   everything I let's so this is always a [TS]

00:03:32   explore have horn philosophy 101 is [TS]

00:03:35   where we are now I I'd say let's listen [TS]

00:03:37   maybe keep it light on on on the [TS]

00:03:39   spoilers for another few minutes maybe [TS]

00:03:41   that that sounds good to me [TS]

00:03:43   alright so just you know to keep it [TS]

00:03:46   spoiler spoiler spoiler free within the [TS]

00:03:49   first 10 minutes of the movie they make [TS]

00:03:51   it very very clear what kind of movie [TS]

00:03:53   this is and it's not slightly a slight [TS]

00:03:56   magical realism it's oh we're just going [TS]

00:04:00   to go into full on syfy magic with a [TS]

00:04:02   dash of action adventure basically [TS]

00:04:05   raiders of the lost ark in space [TS]

00:04:07   yeah it's a and it's it is really [TS]

00:04:10   irreverent in a way that I mean I guess [TS]

00:04:11   the original Iron Man felt quite [TS]

00:04:13   irreverent but this is even more so than [TS]

00:04:15   that a loose adventure story it's a [TS]

00:04:19   sci-fi story and not a xanax earth-based [TS]

00:04:23   like action-thriller superhero movie [TS]

00:04:25   yeah it's not a superhero [TS]

00:04:27   the movie at all although it's very [TS]

00:04:28   comic booky and there are characters [TS]

00:04:31   with superhuman powers all of the [TS]

00:04:34   superhuman powers are attached to [TS]

00:04:36   interpreters who aren't human [TS]

00:04:38   Yeah right there super super human back [TS]

00:04:42   here and I mean speaking of setting the [TS]

00:04:46   tone right up at the top [TS]

00:04:48   i loved how I mean you know obviously I [TS]

00:04:51   went in knowing the trailers and knowing [TS]

00:04:53   the basic tone but you know even if you [TS]

00:04:56   go in completely cold you know it starts [TS]

00:04:59   at like you know this desayunaste [TS]

00:05:01   fiction landscape and you know i mean [TS]

00:05:04   almost the one thing i want to say is [TS]

00:05:06   the whole movie looked like covers of [TS]

00:05:09   galaxies and the magazine of fantasy and [TS]

00:05:12   science fiction and you know all these [TS]

00:05:13   wonderful science fiction landscapes and [TS]

00:05:18   you know you see that you see this [TS]

00:05:20   figure moving through this landscape and [TS]

00:05:23   then music kicks in and he just starts [TS]

00:05:26   dancing and you know that's that's just [TS]

00:05:30   this wonderful moment that says alright [TS]

00:05:31   we're not just another space we're going [TS]

00:05:34   to be silly and i love that my favorite [TS]

00:05:38   part of that which is kind of meta is [TS]

00:05:40   that it was an opening credit sequence [TS]

00:05:41   which movies don't do anymore [TS]

00:05:44   yes yes I loved that my kids actually [TS]

00:05:47   inform me a few months ago that they [TS]

00:05:49   know when a movie is old when there are [TS]

00:05:51   credits at the front of the movie notice [TS]

00:05:54   said this yeah I noticed that this movie [TS]

00:05:56   has unlike all the other Marvel movies [TS]

00:05:59   in fact they can't have your traditional [TS]

00:06:01   mid-credits sequence in some ways [TS]

00:06:03   because they don't have the initial [TS]

00:06:06   credits to run at the end that it's [TS]

00:06:08   actually at the beginning and it and [TS]

00:06:10   it's great because you set that tone and [TS]

00:06:12   i love i love the choice and i know this [TS]

00:06:14   was something that was added by by the [TS]

00:06:17   director James Gunn the the choice of [TS]

00:06:20   tying Peter quill who is ultimately play [TS]

00:06:23   by Chris Pratt who is great i think that [TS]

00:06:26   is a great find of what a what a what a [TS]

00:06:28   nice piece of casting he is such a a a [TS]

00:06:31   winning winning kind of actor you want [TS]

00:06:34   to root for him it feels like a regular [TS]

00:06:35   guy and hear of simultaneously which is [TS]

00:06:38   really hard to do [TS]

00:06:39   time to earth and the only seen that [TS]

00:06:40   happens on earth in the entire movie is [TS]

00:06:42   the first scene of the movie where Peter [TS]

00:06:44   is a kid his mom is dying she gives him [TS]

00:06:47   she wants to talk to him she dies she's [TS]

00:06:50   got this cassette tape that he's [TS]

00:06:52   listening to and he's got a gift that is [TS]

00:06:54   his grandfather puts in his backpack and [TS]

00:06:57   he's abducted by aliens and that's the [TS]

00:06:59   beginning of the movie and then we we [TS]

00:07:01   get that mixtape throughout the movie [TS]

00:07:03   and it's the one thing that attaches us [TS]

00:07:05   to the earth and uh what a great not [TS]

00:07:09   only does it set the tone because it's [TS]

00:07:11   all like classic rock but it also is the [TS]

00:07:14   one thing that kind of keeps us grounded [TS]

00:07:15   in the entire movie because if this [TS]

00:07:18   movie i think really risked being [TS]

00:07:19   completely untethered from reality right [TS]

00:07:21   it's like yeah i think the weakest thing [TS]

00:07:23   in the first 30 minutes is the the [TS]

00:07:26   download of information it it felt very [TS]

00:07:29   much like some other sci-fi movies where [TS]

00:07:32   you have so much terminology and so many [TS]

00:07:34   like weird [TS]

00:07:36   loading we have weird names and stuff [TS]

00:07:38   was like well it's a nose and he's [TS]

00:07:39   related to Ronan and there's the necks [TS]

00:07:41   and our oh my god Ryan there's some very [TS]

00:07:44   expositional dial it's rightly right but [TS]

00:07:47   I was bad but i'm good now trust me [TS]

00:07:49   right right and and and a lot of times [TS]

00:07:52   when that happens it can lose an [TS]

00:07:54   audience where they're like I don't know [TS]

00:07:55   what the hell is going on and you know I [TS]

00:07:58   felt that way about there are a lot of [TS]

00:08:00   movies that I've ended up not liking [TS]

00:08:02   have been like that but I feel like the [TS]

00:08:03   the grounding of it with earth and with [TS]

00:08:05   the music and with the tone is like the [TS]

00:08:08   movies trying to send you a signal it's [TS]

00:08:09   like all right first off if you don't [TS]

00:08:11   get it it's fine it'll be fine because [TS]

00:08:13   we're gonna have fun and second off uh [TS]

00:08:15   you know you you can just it if you [TS]

00:08:18   dunno know about this stuff you you know [TS]

00:08:20   about it and that's good for you but if [TS]

00:08:22   you don't know about it [TS]

00:08:23   it's ok we got you covered because it's [TS]

00:08:25   gonna be a fun ride anyway there's music [TS]

00:08:27   and stuff you recognize I just felt like [TS]

00:08:29   that was a high-wire act because there [TS]

00:08:30   is so much I'd argue there's too much [TS]

00:08:32   and they probably could have simplified [TS]

00:08:33   it but there's so much there but they [TS]

00:08:35   managed to make you not hate the movie [TS]

00:08:36   in the first 30 minutes when they're [TS]

00:08:38   throwing out where the kill and there's [TS]

00:08:40   Drax and there's Nova prime on sand are [TS]

00:08:42   American free and there's Roman energy [TS]

00:08:43   on do and there's the peace treaty [TS]

00:08:45   between the cramming areas Andorians and [TS]

00:08:48   the Ravagers who kidnapped [TS]

00:08:49   oh my god and that all of a sudden it's [TS]

00:08:52   the weakest or [TS]

00:08:52   minutes of the movie yeah but you know [TS]

00:08:55   what the timing of the script and the [TS]

00:08:58   timing of the movie and the editing that [TS]

00:09:00   is what I think hold it together is [TS]

00:09:02   because you do have all of this [TS]

00:09:03   ridiculous exposition but you have James [TS]

00:09:07   Gunn has an innate ability to know [TS]

00:09:10   exactly when a joke needs to happen so [TS]

00:09:13   we've got time to long time to throw in [TS]

00:09:15   something funny that people don't just [TS]

00:09:17   start to get their eyes glazed over and [TS]

00:09:19   he doesn't repeatedly throughout the [TS]

00:09:21   movie and actually some of my criticism [TS]

00:09:23   of james gunn in the past as a director [TS]

00:09:24   has been that at times he doesn't know [TS]

00:09:27   when to rain back like I super is a [TS]

00:09:30   great example of a movie that I really [TS]

00:09:31   wanted to like and that has some really [TS]

00:09:33   great stuff but also some some stuff [TS]

00:09:36   that goes way too far and you're like a [TS]

00:09:38   James Gunn comeback comeback but the the [TS]

00:09:41   combination here whatever you know [TS]

00:09:43   whoever James Gunn was working with in [TS]

00:09:47   regards to marvel to balance this script [TS]

00:09:50   out is just it's it's note it's almost [TS]

00:09:53   no perfectly there are a couple [TS]

00:09:54   instances where it doesn't quite work [TS]

00:09:56   but even like with all of the exposition [TS]

00:09:58   and the I just want to say really [TS]

00:10:00   quickly about that opening sequence when [TS]

00:10:03   I was a Disneyland a couple weeks ago [TS]

00:10:04   thats the sneak preview that they were [TS]

00:10:07   showing they showed the start of Peter [TS]

00:10:10   getting on landing on the landing on the [TS]

00:10:13   planet landing on Morag up through his [TS]

00:10:18   ship getting a nice waterfall on it is [TS]

00:10:23   the best spoiler lite version i can [TS]

00:10:25   describe and from from like two minutes [TS]

00:10:29   of watching that i just i went from [TS]

00:10:32   being moderately excited for this movie [TS]

00:10:35   being like yeah I love you know i love [TS]

00:10:37   Chris Pratt and this is gonna be fun and [TS]

00:10:39   then as soon as the music kicked in and [TS]

00:10:42   the big giant guardians of the galaxy [TS]

00:10:43   came up my mind my job kind of dropped [TS]

00:10:48   and I went oh oh yeah this is this is [TS]

00:10:52   this kind of a movie this is the kind of [TS]

00:10:54   movie that i am going to really really [TS]

00:10:57   latch onto and two weeks later three [TS]

00:11:00   weeks later absolutely right no right on [TS]

00:11:04   the money [TS]

00:11:04   I don't see why we shouldn't fire off [TS]

00:11:06   the spoil [TS]

00:11:06   around here by the way because quite [TS]

00:11:07   frankly you need to go see this movie [TS]

00:11:08   it's in theaters now go go watch it are [TS]

00:11:11   watching this time to go watch it and [TS]

00:11:13   stream it and then come back and listen [TS]

00:11:14   to it so i hear it coming now here comes [TS]

00:11:17   the spoiler horn [TS]

00:11:22   ok ma Monty you're going to say [TS]

00:11:25   something I really like how the opening [TS]

00:11:28   sequence isn't just action it actually [TS]

00:11:30   establishes Peter quills character [TS]

00:11:32   because for the movie to work it's [TS]

00:11:34   essential that we buy him as basically a [TS]

00:11:37   goofball but also very competent at what [TS]

00:11:40   he does [TS]

00:11:41   hmm so we have to the whole movie think [TS]

00:11:44   oh sure this is a guy who might try [TS]

00:11:46   doing a dance off to distract somebody [TS]

00:11:48   but also somebody who when the chips are [TS]

00:11:51   down can actually shoot all the right [TS]

00:11:53   people [TS]

00:11:54   I did question the strategy of putting [TS]

00:11:56   on headphones while trying to infiltrate [TS]

00:11:58   a secret temple in order to steal an orb [TS]

00:12:00   but I think that's like that's part of [TS]

00:12:02   who we think he's just goofing around [TS]

00:12:04   he's right [TS]

00:12:05   well yeah maybe she'd also like that's [TS]

00:12:06   like and also like he knew he knew where [TS]

00:12:09   that room was and like they shot a hole [TS]

00:12:11   in it he was out of the temple in one [TS]

00:12:13   second right without having to navigate [TS]

00:12:14   the whole thing but like you know this [TS]

00:12:17   is him by himself you know and he thinks [TS]

00:12:19   nothing conduction band he's gonna dance [TS]

00:12:20   around and not worry about the weird [TS]

00:12:22   carnivorous aliens in this the this [TS]

00:12:24   temple because that's that's what he's [TS]

00:12:26   doing that is his day at work you know [TS]

00:12:28   that is 925 I can't tell you how much i [TS]

00:12:30   run i love the idea that I'm that the [TS]

00:12:33   this is the idea of a hero who has a [TS]

00:12:35   cool name like superheroes do except [TS]

00:12:38   nobody knows it and nobody gets it and [TS]

00:12:39   nobody cares is it such a great [TS]

00:12:41   there are so many great running jokes [TS]

00:12:43   every character basically has their own [TS]

00:12:44   running joke that they can tell i think [TS]

00:12:46   but with with him its star-lord which [TS]

00:12:48   nobody knows and nobody cares about the [TS]

00:12:50   very end somebody called star-lord and [TS]

00:12:52   he's like alright finally man i may [TS]

00:12:54   appreciate that made it because there [TS]

00:12:56   because although the whole movie it's [TS]

00:12:58   like I you know star-lord and like no [TS]

00:13:00   prints no no okay don't know anything [TS]

00:13:03   about name is not that we're never heard [TS]

00:13:05   of it [TS]

00:13:05   nope for what it's worth that's probably [TS]

00:13:07   the biggest change from the yeah yeah [TS]

00:13:11   yeahs the kind eyes [TS]

00:13:13   I i read that I've read some of the [TS]

00:13:14   comics because i read the whole [TS]

00:13:16   annihilation think i'm a big nova fan [TS]

00:13:19   actually and you know nova in someone [TS]

00:13:21   has to be someone has to be it's me it's [TS]

00:13:23   me well Green Lantern you know it [TS]

00:13:25   no visit the knockoff Green Lantern [TS]

00:13:27   basically in the Marvel Universe but I [TS]

00:13:29   like no rich writer and all that and and [TS]

00:13:31   and annihilation conquest sort of [TS]

00:13:33   started as a nova story but it was also [TS]

00:13:35   a car [TS]

00:13:36   into the galaxy story and by the way [TS]

00:13:37   this is the point if you have the [TS]

00:13:38   over-under at 20 minutes or whatever [TS]

00:13:40   there's a point where I point out that [TS]

00:13:41   one member of the guardians of the [TS]

00:13:42   galaxy [TS]

00:13:43   yes maybe my choice yeah you please god [TS]

00:13:46   so there's a micro not according to the [TS]

00:13:48   galaxy link here one of the characters [TS]

00:13:50   not burden by intellectual property [TS]

00:13:52   issues that can reappear in Marvel [TS]

00:13:54   Comics is bug and so he's been in the [TS]

00:13:56   Guardians but anyway that it is a [TS]

00:13:58   different story [TS]

00:13:59   this is this is like they become a strip [TS]

00:14:00   mind the recent Guardians story 444 [TS]

00:14:04   pieces but it's not mean that that's the [TS]

00:14:07   beauty of this in some ways nobody [TS]

00:14:09   really cares if you change the story cuz [TS]

00:14:11   nobody asked the guardians of the galaxy [TS]

00:14:12   or anyone [TS]

00:14:13   well I recently became obsessed with [TS]

00:14:15   kind of the origins especially if Groot [TS]

00:14:17   and Rocket i read the annihilation [TS]

00:14:19   prologue trade paperback which gives the [TS]

00:14:21   origins of a bunch of nonsensical space [TS]

00:14:24   creating characters many of whom are [TS]

00:14:26   exactly identical star-lord and quasar [TS]

00:14:30   and Nova all have the same origin and [TS]

00:14:33   practically the same name but I was [TS]

00:14:35   really happy that group whose origin was [TS]

00:14:37   in nineteen sixty as a monster from [TS]

00:14:38   Planet X in the movie when they're doing [TS]

00:14:42   the kind of lineup thing and you see [TS]

00:14:44   they're like powers listed as [TS]

00:14:49   superimposed on the screen it says [TS]

00:14:51   groups origin is X ah so even in the [TS]

00:14:55   universe [TS]

00:14:56   he's from Planet X them case there are a [TS]

00:14:59   lot of little subtle nods in that script [TS]

00:15:01   that's the sequence which I appreciated [TS]

00:15:02   also noted that it does indeed say that [TS]

00:15:05   rocket has broken out of prison 22 times [TS]

00:15:07   he's pretty little this show when he's [TS]

00:15:12   got a plan he's got a big friend yeah [TS]

00:15:14   little guy with the big friend go away [TS]

00:15:15   so yeah so when I saw this movie trailer [TS]

00:15:18   i thought uh I thought it would rain [TS]

00:15:22   mentioned raiders of the lost ark is I [TS]

00:15:24   thought of Star Wars obviously and one [TS]

00:15:27   of the things that I think is lacking in [TS]

00:15:29   a lot of sci-fi movies these days I feel [TS]

00:15:30   like we've gotten so dark and gritty and [TS]

00:15:33   all that that that that we've actually [TS]

00:15:34   lost a lot of the funds maybe truce of [TS]

00:15:36   superhero movies too but it's certainly [TS]

00:15:38   trap silently it and that's from the [TS]

00:15:40   trailer i thought okay this has the [TS]

00:15:43   potential to be that kind of movie The [TS]

00:15:46   Star Wars kind of movie where it is a [TS]

00:15:47   rollicking good [TS]

00:15:49   i manned up more or less delivered [TS]

00:15:52   I I you know I wouldn't say that I would [TS]

00:15:55   I I wouldn't consider this a great movie [TS]

00:15:57   but uh I think it's a good movie and I [TS]

00:16:00   think one of the reasons that it gets me [TS]

00:16:01   on its side is because of the fun it has [TS]

00:16:04   the fact that in these really weird and [TS]

00:16:09   street weird sci-fi settings like the [TS]

00:16:13   the severed head of a giant alien that [TS]

00:16:18   is now used as a space station there [TS]

00:16:20   minding it which is and they're mining [TS]

00:16:22   the cranes and snuffling think that's [TS]

00:16:24   very farscape that is like a really [TS]

00:16:26   bizarre thing i love i love that but in [TS]

00:16:29   there you have these characters and you [TS]

00:16:31   have you have on and there are in a [TS]

00:16:34   proposition with the Nova Corps who are [TS]

00:16:36   are totally straight-laced serious and [TS]

00:16:39   that's where you've got you've got your [TS]

00:16:41   uh Peter Serafinowicz and gents ear and [TS]

00:16:46   john c reilly right and so I I [TS]

00:16:50   restaurant the real actors all live [TS]

00:16:52   where they live on over there no end and [TS]

00:16:54   yeah writing is your Glenn Close [TS]

00:16:55   Tehran's and are there the well and as a [TS]

00:16:58   nova fan i find it really hilarious [TS]

00:16:59   because what they've decided here to do [TS]

00:17:00   is is do something that's actually a [TS]

00:17:03   really funny thing that Marvel Comics [TS]

00:17:04   due to which is going to roll their eyes [TS]

00:17:06   at the Nova Corps is like yes and are [TS]

00:17:08   they are the perfect planet everybody [TS]

00:17:10   loves them they've got the Nova Corps [TS]

00:17:11   the interstellar police people and [TS]

00:17:14   everybody roll their eyes at them [TS]

00:17:15   because they're just too perfect and [TS]

00:17:17   that's who our characters are as they're [TS]

00:17:18   not the perfect people they are this [TS]

00:17:20   ragtag bunch of people who meet [TS]

00:17:22   essentially and-and-and bond in in jail [TS]

00:17:27   what kind of movie is that while they [TS]

00:17:30   bond in jail it for like 20 minutes [TS]

00:17:33   sure they don't spend a lot of time as [TS]

00:17:35   prisoners well they would all die they [TS]

00:17:37   stuck a stick around but that it is it's [TS]

00:17:40   made a lot of people [TS]

00:17:41   yeah yeah yeah and so everybody's got [TS]

00:17:44   their thing uh we got rocket raccoon who [TS]

00:17:47   is voiced by bradley cooper who I found [TS]

00:17:48   unrecognizable I would never have [TS]

00:17:50   guessed bradley cooper in a million [TS]

00:17:51   years who is a Ricky raccoon and so one [TS]

00:17:54   of my favorite things in the entire [TS]

00:17:55   movie is when Chris Pratt says basically [TS]

00:17:59   like dude you're like a raccoon and he [TS]

00:18:01   says what's a raccoon [TS]

00:18:02   because he's not from Earth he's never [TS]

00:18:03   been there he doesn't know what a [TS]

00:18:05   raccoon is that's great and group who [TS]

00:18:08   says I'm group and all he ever says I'm [TS]

00:18:10   group [TS]

00:18:11   what a great and yet great character [TS]

00:18:12   like the iron giant voice by vin diesel [TS]

00:18:15   great it's that the expressive eyes and [TS]

00:18:19   the and the vocal patterns just the eyes [TS]

00:18:22   and big black eyes and smile [TS]

00:18:25   oh so that yeah that's too that's and [TS]

00:18:28   later in the movie but there is there is [TS]

00:18:30   one moment with group that I think [TS]

00:18:33   everybody probably knows what I'm [TS]

00:18:34   talking about if you seen it where [TS]

00:18:35   something very big and violent happens [TS]

00:18:39   and normally you'd be like oh god that's [TS]

00:18:40   kind of horrible and then group turns [TS]

00:18:42   around and gives you the biggest happy [TS]

00:18:45   and smiling like there's also he's so [TS]

00:18:47   powerful because I mean Groot is like [TS]

00:18:49   the secret weapon because he can grow [TS]

00:18:51   things and he's got his likely to make a [TS]

00:18:52   little flowers for people and give them [TS]

00:18:54   to him which is adorable he is he is [TS]

00:18:57   this amazing character but when they're [TS]

00:19:00   breaking out of the jail there's [TS]

00:19:01   definitely that moment where all of this [TS]

00:19:04   jeopardy happens and then group shows up [TS]

00:19:06   and the comment is something like oh [TS]

00:19:08   sure now you show up right because they [TS]

00:19:10   like keep him out of the out of the [TS]

00:19:12   movie for a little while because he's [TS]

00:19:13   gonna be too helpful and they need to be [TS]

00:19:16   that they need to put everybody at a [TS]

00:19:18   little bit of a risk before group comes [TS]

00:19:20   back because groups pretty awesome i [TS]

00:19:22   think what made this movie so surprising [TS]

00:19:23   for me is that so many of the core group [TS]

00:19:26   of ragtag heroes have a really high [TS]

00:19:29   degree of difficulty like group could [TS]

00:19:31   have gone seriously wrong [TS]

00:19:33   yeah rock it out Roger kind of luring [TS]

00:19:36   right yeah I think rocket could have [TS]

00:19:38   been a complete disaster rocket could [TS]

00:19:40   have gone wrong two ways but he has [TS]

00:19:42   great facial expressions somehow cgi is [TS]

00:19:44   that good [TS]

00:19:45   also just were all sick of the randomly [TS]

00:19:48   homicidal character except this time [TS]

00:19:51   we're super fun and even Drax after a [TS]

00:19:56   wrestler is highly risky [TS]

00:19:58   yeah but he works for me that guy's [TS]

00:20:00   hilarious yeah his deadpan let's take a [TS]

00:20:04   break so i can tell you about something [TS]

00:20:06   cool and this is cool and it's new it's [TS]

00:20:10   from drobo and it's a new third [TS]

00:20:14   generation [TS]

00:20:15   model of drobo if you don't know what [TS]

00:20:17   drobo is dro a sense for data robotics [TS]

00:20:21   the original storage robot was the [TS]

00:20:24   concept way back when when drobo was [TS]

00:20:25   started the idea is these are smart [TS]

00:20:28   devices you put hard drives in them and [TS]

00:20:31   it figures out how to use them [TS]

00:20:33   it gives you redundancy it protects your [TS]

00:20:35   data and lets you store huge amounts of [TS]

00:20:37   data in one box and you can swap the [TS]

00:20:40   drives in and out if you have a failure [TS]

00:20:43   or if you want more disk space it's very [TS]

00:20:45   cool but let me tell you about this new [TS]

00:20:47   gen 3 troppo it's a 4dr units you can [TS]

00:20:51   fit up to four full-size hard drives in [TS]

00:20:54   it and those hard drives can contain a [TS]

00:20:55   lot of data so a drobo box with four [TS]

00:20:57   drives and it can contain a huge amount [TS]

00:21:00   of data it's faster than the old models [TS]

00:21:02   is a USB 3 interface as a new faster [TS]

00:21:05   dual-core processor powering it and as a [TS]

00:21:09   result it is a much faster device it's [TS]

00:21:12   between three and five times faster then [TS]

00:21:14   its four-day predecessors but here's the [TS]

00:21:17   amazing thing it's more economical it is [TS]

00:21:21   a great value the original forbade Robo [TS]

00:21:23   cost 499 the new third-generation drobo [TS]

00:21:26   starts at 349 lot of people told Robo we [TS]

00:21:30   love the idea of the drobo 5d i have a [TS]

00:21:33   drobo 5d here in my house and i'm using [TS]

00:21:36   it and it's great but what people said [TS]

00:21:39   was we don't need that massive [TS]

00:21:41   performance and the price is way too [TS]

00:21:43   high so this is a much more economical [TS]

00:21:45   third-generation drobo at 349 and I told [TS]

00:21:51   you about a lot of the other things it [TS]

00:21:52   has including the data protection it's [TS]

00:21:54   optimized for Time Machine have a hard [TS]

00:21:56   drive crashes you don't lose data [TS]

00:21:58   because it's on other drives too because [TS]

00:22:00   drobo is smart it's not a dumb hard [TS]

00:22:02   drive [TS]

00:22:03   it's a smart storage system with a whole [TS]

00:22:05   bunch of drives providing the storage [TS]

00:22:07   and there's a great deal for [TS]

00:22:09   incomparable listeners fifty dollars off [TS]

00:22:12   the purchase of any drobo model any [TS]

00:22:14   single drobo model in the whole store by [TS]

00:22:18   using this code smell that's my name [TS]

00:22:21   use code smell when you buy at drobo [TS]

00:22:23   store.com dr OBO store dot [TS]

00:22:29   calm if you're like me and you got a lot [TS]

00:22:32   of data you want to store and you get [TS]

00:22:33   frustrated by hooking up a whole bunch [TS]

00:22:35   of separate standalone hard drives in a [TS]

00:22:37   chain to your computer and I've been [TS]

00:22:40   there until I got my drobo and now I'm [TS]

00:22:43   much happier not having it there so if [TS]

00:22:45   you are thinking about if you need [TS]

00:22:46   storage for your computer and you want [TS]

00:22:49   it all in one place and you wanted to be [TS]

00:22:51   safe [TS]

00:22:52   so the different drive crashes you'll be [TS]

00:22:54   okay drobo is the answer [TS]

00:22:56   check them out thank you so much to [TS]

00:22:57   drove for sponsoring the incomparable [TS]

00:22:58   use code smell at drobo store.com [TS]

00:23:02   I have to say Drax was the big surprise [TS]

00:23:04   for me that about how much I loved [TS]

00:23:06   tracks because it is dave batista he's a [TS]

00:23:10   wrestler he's big and bulky and looks [TS]

00:23:12   like a wrestler and you get the sense [TS]

00:23:15   the Drax is just a big wrestler he's a [TS]

00:23:16   big tough guy but to have him take [TS]

00:23:19   everything literally is such a great [TS]

00:23:21   comedy moment and is in it and it sounds [TS]

00:23:24   like put it that way it sounds like it [TS]

00:23:25   could be sloppy but it's not like the [TS]

00:23:27   way it's played it is that for me that [TS]

00:23:31   was where my wife and I were laughing [TS]

00:23:32   the most in the entire movie is when we [TS]

00:23:33   finally realized the tracks takes [TS]

00:23:35   everything literally and it's like had I [TS]

00:23:36   never call me for saurus again right and [TS]

00:23:39   i think would go over my head [TS]

00:23:42   my reflexes are too fast i wouldn't [TS]

00:23:43   change anything it's so it's so great [TS]

00:23:46   and and again if the movie was taking [TS]

00:23:48   until itself too seriously you you [TS]

00:23:52   wouldn't do that [TS]

00:23:53   yeah and I like that dress is always [TS]

00:23:55   shirtless even at the end when they've [TS]

00:23:58   gotten their medals or whatever on Nova [TS]

00:24:00   Gomorrah has put on a reasonably body [TS]

00:24:04   covering outfit and she's standing right [TS]

00:24:05   next to Drax whose shirtless as always [TS]

00:24:08   well there's that really nice moment [TS]

00:24:10   when they're gearing up to two cherry [TS]

00:24:12   bomb and they're all putting on their [TS]

00:24:14   Ravager armor clothing and tracks you [TS]

00:24:17   know start by putting on the pants and [TS]

00:24:19   takes a look at the jacket and then [TS]

00:24:20   throws the jacket away [TS]

00:24:22   yeah like nope this is how I am he's [TS]

00:24:24   just never cold he's like great circle [TS]

00:24:26   and said to even in the darkness of [TS]

00:24:29   space that is Fascisti his tattoos or [TS]

00:24:32   his fashion he needs to show you why [TS]

00:24:33   would you cover those tattoos up the [TS]

00:24:34   full upper body tattoos the five hours [TS]

00:24:37   of makeup tattoos I don't even know that [TS]

00:24:39   I call them tattoos they're like [TS]

00:24:40   embossing [TS]

00:24:42   well together like scarred right yeah [TS]

00:24:43   yeah he's yeah the composition of this [TS]

00:24:47   group again could have gone wildly wrong [TS]

00:24:51   it shouldn't have worked for when for a [TS]

00:24:53   million reasons that shouldn't have [TS]

00:24:54   worked [TS]

00:24:55   yeah I mean especially because on paper [TS]

00:24:56   some of them are so similar right and it [TS]

00:24:58   could be that we just have like three [TS]

00:25:00   basically homicidal maniacs and then [TS]

00:25:02   group who doesn't [TS]

00:25:04   you know you could get to express [TS]

00:25:06   himself in any way but they all get to [TS]

00:25:07   become interesting right yeah there's no [TS]

00:25:09   18 dynamic multiples of these guys are [TS]

00:25:12   the muscle [TS]

00:25:13   yes yeah yeah we have a lot of muscle on [TS]

00:25:16   this team [TS]

00:25:17   well they're on and not one of cradles [TS]

00:25:18   know that you know even even rock and [TS]

00:25:22   the little guy has you know has a gun [TS]

00:25:24   the size of him whenever he needs it [TS]

00:25:26   right listen can we talk about how [TS]

00:25:28   beautiful that gun is just every every I [TS]

00:25:31   saw this so I've seen this movie a [TS]

00:25:32   couple times and twice and 3d and normal [TS]

00:25:36   and post converted 3d you but just even [TS]

00:25:39   seeing it in 2d the way that the rack [TS]

00:25:42   focus goes on that gun when it's like [TS]

00:25:45   level-1 level-2 level-3 oh yeah it's [TS]

00:25:50   it's just such a gleeful happy I reminds [TS]

00:25:54   me of being a kid and like playing with [TS]

00:25:56   nerf guns kind of gleeful nuh swear it's [TS]

00:25:58   like oh gee you think that you know what [TS]

00:26:01   this is but no no there's more fun [TS]

00:26:03   coming was like when i first read about [TS]

00:26:05   it whenever guess when they first [TS]

00:26:07   announced it i didn't really know much [TS]

00:26:09   about the Guardians because i have not [TS]

00:26:11   been a big Marvel Universe guy and he [TS]

00:26:15   didn't even big Marvel Universe people [TS]

00:26:16   don't know anything about winery well [TS]

00:26:18   yes they're super instant and not big [TS]

00:26:22   bumper right here yeah right so you know [TS]

00:26:24   I read about it and went ok that's going [TS]

00:26:27   to be the one that they finally snap [TS]

00:26:28   thats that's it can't be good because [TS]

00:26:30   that's nuts that's insane [TS]

00:26:32   and then I saw the first trailer and [TS]

00:26:35   it's I can't remember the last time I [TS]

00:26:37   saw a trailer where I immediately wanted [TS]

00:26:39   the rest of the movie right that second [TS]

00:26:41   and from that point on you know my only [TS]

00:26:43   my only disappointment in the movie was [TS]

00:26:45   after after singing in the trailer i was [TS]

00:26:47   waiting for spirit in the sky [TS]

00:26:49   oh yeah we've been beautiful [TS]

00:26:52   deleted scenes man i hope i do [TS]

00:26:55   cannot connect kimura I mean one of the [TS]

00:26:58   challenges in the comics Kimura is [TS]

00:27:00   actually a really great character [TS]

00:27:01   because she's sort of like this [TS]

00:27:02   super-awesome but also kind of evil [TS]

00:27:05   character who sort of comes around [TS]

00:27:07   eventually [TS]

00:27:08   and I feel like one of the problems with [TS]

00:27:09   her character here is that she has to [TS]

00:27:11   come around really fast land before the [TS]

00:27:14   movies before the movie started [TS]

00:27:15   essentially on screen right there with [TS]

00:27:17   ya [TS]

00:27:17   turns out that were set up that she's on [TS]

00:27:19   on the side of the bad guys on the on [TS]

00:27:23   the side of Ronan and Thanos and then [TS]

00:27:26   sushi sort of says no no I'm actually [TS]

00:27:28   opposed to them and actually says it's [TS]

00:27:32   too yeah it's too bad because um I think [TS]

00:27:35   what makes my character really [TS]

00:27:36   interesting is that they set her up in [TS]

00:27:38   the comics at least to me and violation [TS]

00:27:40   comics they set her up as this [TS]

00:27:41   incredibly frightening character who is [TS]

00:27:43   going to destroy you and then she [TS]

00:27:45   basically comes around kind of gradually [TS]

00:27:49   and you realize oh wait she's on our [TS]

00:27:51   side now wow this is really great and [TS]

00:27:53   the shorthand movie it's kind of too bad [TS]

00:27:55   because she doesn't have much of an arc [TS]

00:27:56   she sort of like presented with karen [TS]

00:27:59   gillan as nebula as the green and the [TS]

00:28:03   green one the blue one yeah and then I'm [TS]

00:28:07   SS and one of them turns out to not be [TS]

00:28:09   bad i guess maybe that's that's kind of [TS]

00:28:12   my one big quibble with the movie and [TS]

00:28:14   you know I I liked it a lot i think it [TS]

00:28:15   was it's a lot of fun but the the kind [TS]

00:28:17   of its like it almost need to come [TS]

00:28:19   packaged with like a ridiculous org [TS]

00:28:21   chart of like the evil organization [TS]

00:28:23   really it's like there's a nose and he's [TS]

00:28:25   not your daughters they're not actually [TS]

00:28:26   his daughter so like he's adopted [TS]

00:28:28   daughters and they don't like each other [TS]

00:28:29   and they're working for some other guy [TS]

00:28:31   wrote it will turn on Thanos and maybe [TS]

00:28:33   they'll turn on each other but it's not [TS]

00:28:34   really clear what their motives are and [TS]

00:28:36   you can run it also has a guy below him [TS]

00:28:38   who get a couple lines of dialogue so [TS]

00:28:40   like you're gonna get to see a lot of [TS]

00:28:41   different levels of our evil [TS]

00:28:43   organizations yondu and he's with the [TS]

00:28:45   reasons the Ravagers and the Ravagers [TS]

00:28:47   have their own or bad but really just [TS]

00:28:49   space literally no way but my heart is [TS]

00:28:52   cool then there's yes of the cooler line [TS]

00:28:54   in the heart of Guardian galaxy [TS]

00:28:56   something that like their spaceship is [TS]

00:28:58   more like a space pickup truck and not [TS]

00:29:00   like a spring evil blacks [TS]

00:29:02   you don't worry about them a twisting [TS]

00:29:04   lego brick the ship was like a booze [TS]

00:29:08   sound we at no point can you spend a lot [TS]

00:29:12   of time thinking about the movie because [TS]

00:29:14   then you start saying things like I've [TS]

00:29:16   had a Walkman and I've listened to a [TS]

00:29:18   cassette tape for six months of the time [TS]

00:29:20   yeah that's not gonna work you don't eat [TS]

00:29:24   the tape [TS]

00:29:25   what happened to the double-a batteries [TS]

00:29:27   i assume and this is one of the things [TS]

00:29:28   that was a TV show you would see I [TS]

00:29:30   assume that over the years Peter quill [TS]

00:29:32   had gotten like a space battery 22 to [TS]

00:29:36   keep it charged also they don't explain [TS]

00:29:38   like he you don't see this time not with [TS]

00:29:40   I'm not worried he's got wherein he's [TS]

00:29:42   got also got the dashboard cassettes [TS]

00:29:43   yeah that says I'm not worried he's [TS]

00:29:46   gonna walk me on an infinity so i think [TS]

00:29:48   its pace it's really important to him [TS]

00:29:50   it's he's taken care of I think they've [TS]

00:29:51   got him yeah he's got he's got like [TS]

00:29:53   these space tape conditioner that has [TS]

00:29:55   worked it's not really something that [TS]

00:29:56   you that you need to question is [TS]

00:29:58   probably not even set ups he's really [TS]

00:30:01   coated those two a little little passion [TS]

00:30:03   is just inside that to inside the like [TS]

00:30:04   plastic he like guardians of the galaxy [TS]

00:30:06   universe [TS]

00:30:08   I feel like it read kanji this now I i [TS]

00:30:11   am happy to say this is headland we're [TS]

00:30:13   good i'm happy to say that my kids did [TS]

00:30:15   not do this but I heard several people [TS]

00:30:17   in the theater when the when the tape is [TS]

00:30:18   there just go in the Walkman what is [TS]

00:30:20   that room yeah and that's what's playing [TS]

00:30:23   music where's mine are like a Walkman [TS]

00:30:26   yeah well we're going to that you're [TS]

00:30:29   gonna skip past that because you're [TS]

00:30:31   raising them Amish I think we're but [TS]

00:30:34   we're looping around where people have [TS]

00:30:35   you know they have their phone cases [TS]

00:30:37   that look like a Walkman so we're okay [TS]

00:30:38   yeah well by those and put them on the [TS]

00:30:41   phone and then they'll sort of know what [TS]

00:30:42   it is what I like about Gomorrah is that [TS]

00:30:44   she doesn't she doesn't have Trinity [TS]

00:30:47   syndrome and she doesn't really have a [TS]

00:30:48   girlfriend syndrome she actually is a [TS]

00:30:51   badass like Drax's I what I don't like [TS]

00:30:55   about her is the tracks has the sketch [TS]

00:30:56   of his past which is that his family got [TS]

00:30:59   killed and he's mad and Gomorrah has got [TS]

00:31:01   this [TS]

00:31:02   she's you know she's got a flowchart [TS]

00:31:04   she's got a weird background and she [TS]

00:31:06   comes around immediately or was already [TS]

00:31:09   around but we didn't know it and it's [TS]

00:31:11   just that one that one bug me because I [TS]

00:31:13   felt like that character probably could [TS]

00:31:16   have been handled better and i think [TS]

00:31:17   that was probably just a matter of space [TS]

00:31:19   but yeah but she felt like shorthand [TS]

00:31:22   yeah it's a matter of space and also a [TS]

00:31:24   matter of dialogue I mean you look at [TS]

00:31:25   the various characters and they all [TS]

00:31:28   almost all of them get to have a sides [TS]

00:31:29   with each other you know you have that [TS]

00:31:31   lovely scene mid movie with that's just [TS]

00:31:33   tracks and Groot and Rocket everybody's [TS]

00:31:35   got dead people [TS]

00:31:36   I'm Gomorrah every scene she has [TS]

00:31:40   including her one one or two asides with [TS]

00:31:43   quill are almost all very exposition [TS]

00:31:46   heavy [TS]

00:31:47   yeah it's almost all so what happened to [TS]

00:31:49   you and not whereas all of the other [TS]

00:31:52   interchanges that happen with the other [TS]

00:31:54   like two in three groups are are more of [TS]

00:31:59   a back-and-forth pattern and I mean it's [TS]

00:32:01   it's hard in some way because quills [TS]

00:32:04   quills brand of humor is largely [TS]

00:32:07   physical comedy / accidental pop culture [TS]

00:32:11   references i want to talk about that a [TS]

00:32:12   little bit but um and then Gorman [TS]

00:32:14   Gomorrah is just not really she's not a [TS]

00:32:17   funny person or just like sheets there's [TS]

00:32:18   there's some humor to her character but [TS]

00:32:20   by and large like she grew up and really [TS]

00:32:22   terrifying situations so you don't like [TS]

00:32:26   you don't really I i think that it might [TS]

00:32:29   have just been a loss of how to how to [TS]

00:32:31   have that conversation that's where as [TS]

00:32:34   you know all the other conversations we [TS]

00:32:36   can we can put in like injection little [TS]

00:32:38   doses of humor and with that with quill [TS]

00:32:40   and Gomorrah interactions it's either [TS]

00:32:42   dead serious or well we have a little [TS]

00:32:44   bit of romantic tension and maybe we can [TS]

00:32:45   play with that but then otherwise it's [TS]

00:32:48   all it's all expository which which is a [TS]

00:32:50   challenge it's kind of said I feel like [TS]

00:32:52   they handled like rockets to hug their [TS]

00:32:55   thinking more in terms of like he's a [TS]

00:32:57   little bit like about his kind of like [TS]

00:32:58   sadness that he is the only one of his [TS]

00:33:00   kind like you know it's just kind of him [TS]

00:33:02   against the universe and that back kind [TS]

00:33:04   of works out better than her dialogue [TS]

00:33:06   unfortunately I think it is really just [TS]

00:33:08   the dialogue it's not the actress or [TS]

00:33:09   anything no I think zoe saldana is [TS]

00:33:12   excellent and you do that actually the [TS]

00:33:15   thing the thing i wanted to commend her [TS]

00:33:17   on is that later in the movie you get [TS]

00:33:20   she she uses this you know otherwise [TS]

00:33:23   kind of stale dialogue and really puts [TS]

00:33:27   in some [TS]

00:33:28   she she's presented at the beginning of [TS]

00:33:31   the movie like this steel face character [TS]

00:33:33   right she is a badass she is an assassin [TS]

00:33:35   have I ever failed and mid movie you [TS]

00:33:39   start to hear these sort of not-quite [TS]

00:33:41   Quivers in her voice but the when she's [TS]

00:33:44   talking about something that really [TS]

00:33:45   matters to her everything kind of starts [TS]

00:33:48   to break down and the the one that comes [TS]

00:33:50   to me is when they're in the Ravager [TS]

00:33:52   ship about mid movie when she's like [TS]

00:33:55   quill is up against the wall with the [TS]

00:33:58   with an arrow at his throat and she's [TS]

00:33:59   trying to be like you've got on like [TS]

00:34:02   we've got to do something they're going [TS]

00:34:04   to hurt people and she puts all of her [TS]

00:34:09   emotions into it and for Gomorrah that's [TS]

00:34:10   maybe not a lot of emotion but it's it's [TS]

00:34:13   just enough that you start to get the [TS]

00:34:15   the sense that this is really important [TS]

00:34:17   to her and in a way to something else [TS]

00:34:19   isn't I just wish you had an arc [TS]

00:34:21   emotionally instead of her being always [TS]

00:34:24   on the side of good because I felt like [TS]

00:34:25   I mean I get why they get what they did [TS]

00:34:27   it which is they wanted a strong woman [TS]

00:34:29   in the cast and more as a great [TS]

00:34:31   character but they didn't she didn't [TS]

00:34:33   have a journey there and you know sort [TS]

00:34:36   of in in some ways Karen Gillan's [TS]

00:34:38   character and so is held on his [TS]

00:34:40   character are the same character and one [TS]

00:34:41   of them just chose side a and the other [TS]

00:34:43   chose side be my little blue mini y-yeah [TS]

00:34:47   yeah well you could you could have shown [TS]

00:34:48   her being strong and evil but growing [TS]

00:34:51   stronger by turning good and you know [TS]

00:34:54   fighting off nebula or even a moment [TS]

00:34:57   very early where she's like oh this is [TS]

00:34:59   really terrible i was already having my [TS]

00:35:00   doubts but this is bad but I felt like [TS]

00:35:02   she might like it's too late it's too [TS]

00:35:04   bad it's a fun character and she's a [TS]

00:35:05   strong strong personality and so we sell [TS]

00:35:08   down Donna has now been like a billion [TS]

00:35:11   different syfy French but yeah get into [TS]

00:35:13   Star Wars gets into Star Wars she has [TS]

00:35:16   the full to be ready dad are worse she [TS]

00:35:19   knows a guy [TS]

00:35:19   yeah i was reading about how she's got [TS]

00:35:22   some problems because she has to be in [TS]

00:35:24   Gary's the galaxy to an avatar 2 and 3 [TS]

00:35:26   and she's pregnant [TS]

00:35:28   Wow boy now for avatar i don't think [TS]

00:35:30   that matters that much she's a motion [TS]

00:35:32   capture all the way right but the [TS]

00:35:34   Guardians yeah yeah I don't know I we [TS]

00:35:37   have more of about the characters before [TS]

00:35:39   you move on to other things we have more [TS]

00:35:40   about you want to single up [TS]

00:35:41   about I feel like we've been talking [TS]

00:35:42   about these characters I i want to [TS]

00:35:44   praise Groot again because i feel like i [TS]

00:35:46   am Groot is gonna be set on school [TS]

00:35:48   playgrounds all this fall and I I what a [TS]

00:35:52   great what a great choice to bring that [TS]

00:35:54   character in and what a great [TS]

00:35:56   realization he he looks great he is a [TS]

00:35:58   tree who move this and is way better [TS]

00:36:01   than Treebeard sorry Lord of the Rings [TS]

00:36:05   way better than three beard turns out if [TS]

00:36:07   you don't let them talk and monologue [TS]

00:36:09   haha so many so adorable and only says I [TS]

00:36:12   am Groot and the thing that I I knew [TS]

00:36:14   going in he was only gonna say I'm group [TS]

00:36:16   thing that I didn't realize is that he [TS]

00:36:17   was gonna have a conversation with [TS]

00:36:19   rocket for rocket knew exactly what he [TS]

00:36:21   meant [TS]

00:36:21   even though all he said was I am group [TS]

00:36:23   that blew me away that was such a great [TS]

00:36:26   scene they are ungrateful right yes okay [TS]

00:36:29   i will have a dream twelve percent [TS]

00:36:31   better than eleven percent between [TS]

00:36:34   Treebeard and group i have groudon my [TS]

00:36:37   desk right now [TS]

00:36:38   yeah as you I beard and eventually even [TS]

00:36:41   between-group sorry between groups and [TS]

00:36:43   rocket i have it on my desk where like I [TS]

00:36:45   really like rocket as a character and I [TS]

00:36:47   he's definitely one of my favorites in [TS]

00:36:49   the film but as for the thing that you [TS]

00:36:52   know you kind of want to take home and [TS]

00:36:53   like smile at the light crude yeah I [TS]

00:36:56   mean well groupies kind of pure the way [TS]

00:36:58   the other characters are not right and [TS]

00:36:59   when he is the other guys are all are [TS]

00:37:01   all misfits and and you know should be [TS]

00:37:04   in jail and it's kinda like it's just [TS]

00:37:06   there because he happened to be standing [TS]

00:37:07   next to a rocket hold my bag claim right [TS]

00:37:09   i mean like who doesn't misfit and that [TS]

00:37:11   he doesn't fit in with these other [TS]

00:37:12   people but not because of anything [TS]

00:37:13   inherent to him its yeah he's not he's [TS]

00:37:16   not a bad guy he's not a bounty hunter [TS]

00:37:17   he just hangs out with a bounty hunter [TS]

00:37:19   right you know and yeah I've actually [TS]

00:37:20   got rocket on my desk that's because I [TS]

00:37:22   opened a random heroclix from know that [TS]

00:37:26   is your time don't see Riley only does [TS]

00:37:28   so so rocket I wanted to do something i [TS]

00:37:30   wanted to mention my rocket that I think [TS]

00:37:31   is really clever and it's a smart thing [TS]

00:37:32   to do in this movie is that the to the [TS]

00:37:36   types you know you can hero types and [TS]

00:37:38   you get you get you get a supporting [TS]

00:37:39   character types and rocket is we could [TS]

00:37:43   actually go back to the a team you know [TS]

00:37:44   rocket is is kind of like the muscle he [TS]

00:37:48   or he could be faced man only because [TS]

00:37:50   when Bradley Cooper right but he's also [TS]

00:37:52   the brain with this [TS]

00:37:53   that's the trail is that is that by [TS]

00:37:56   making Peter quill a goof [TS]

00:37:59   by making Chris Pratt be like he's smart [TS]

00:38:02   but he's not that smart he's he's [TS]

00:38:05   survived but he was in the operational [TS]

00:38:07   speak yeah yeah it doesn't really have [TS]

00:38:09   it together and he doesn't have a plan [TS]

00:38:10   and Bobby's a pretty face but putting [TS]

00:38:12   that in rocket and saying in that [TS]

00:38:15   wonderful breakout seen you know i [TS]

00:38:17   gotta-i i'm working on and he totally [TS]

00:38:18   has this amazing plan sketched out i [TS]

00:38:22   love that because that takes that takes [TS]

00:38:24   first optics Peter quill into being more [TS]

00:38:27   interesting in that he's got that more [TS]

00:38:29   he's gonna be like all right well I'm [TS]

00:38:31   gonna go get that guy's leg and it'll [TS]

00:38:33   all work out and then any it makes [TS]

00:38:36   rocket nuanced because rocket is then [TS]

00:38:38   not just the itchy trigger finger [TS]

00:38:41   mercenary guy because he's got there's a [TS]

00:38:45   reason he's a space grifter and bounty [TS]

00:38:48   hunter [TS]

00:38:49   it's because he's really smart and get [TS]

00:38:51   underestimated and he has an itchy [TS]

00:38:53   trigger finger and so yes so we can get [TS]

00:38:55   modulated by the other people but he's [TS]

00:38:57   he's still the smart one and that that [TS]

00:38:59   that means he's not the usual type and i [TS]

00:39:02   love that I love that he's not somebody [TS]

00:39:04   I've seen a million times before [TS]

00:39:06   well something I liked in that scene was [TS]

00:39:07   even though the leg is just for comedy [TS]

00:39:11   they took a actual character moment that [TS]

00:39:14   we see that Peter quill gets the leg [TS]

00:39:16   through negotiation and not just [TS]

00:39:18   attacking the guy right now they're [TS]

00:39:20   really nice and while crazy things are [TS]

00:39:22   exploding he's having a conversation [TS]

00:39:24   come on man get the leg [TS]

00:39:27   I got some stuff here will try to do [TS]

00:39:29   some credits [TS]

00:39:31   it's just it's it's a nice its subtle [TS]

00:39:34   building out of quill and and the fact [TS]

00:39:37   that rocket does have these these [TS]

00:39:39   tendencies [TS]

00:39:40   despite the fact that he's you know he's [TS]

00:39:42   very smart as an itchy trigger finger [TS]

00:39:44   but also has a you know a very wry sense [TS]

00:39:48   of humor and the fact that it gets [TS]

00:39:50   carried up again and we're gonna need [TS]

00:39:52   that guy's I it's important to me [TS]

00:39:55   yeah alright night is basically sold on [TS]

00:39:58   this movie from the trailer is like ya [TS]

00:40:00   reckon with a machine gun also that I [TS]

00:40:01   mean yeah but like and and rocket is so [TS]

00:40:04   much more than that I think he's [TS]

00:40:05   actually even perhaps even more than he [TS]

00:40:07   is in the comics which which I went back [TS]

00:40:08   and read well I don't know he's really [TS]

00:40:10   great [TS]

00:40:10   she's very nuanced time to take a short [TS]

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00:42:03   on the subject of I am Groot i just want [TS]

00:42:05   to mention this because i actually did [TS]

00:42:07   the research group start off talking [TS]

00:42:10   like a while like a lordly tree monster [TS]

00:42:13   when he first year at 1960 and even in [TS]

00:42:16   an isolation conquest [TS]

00:42:18   he's talking normally there's an [TS]

00:42:20   annihilation conquest star-lord [TS]

00:42:22   miniseries that kind of brings him back [TS]

00:42:23   he talks normally through all of that [TS]

00:42:25   then the miniseries annihilation [TS]

00:42:27   conquest I'm fascinated by this he only [TS]

00:42:30   says I am Groot in issue 3-4 he talks [TS]

00:42:35   normally again man different umpires [TS]

00:42:37   he's back to saying only I am Groot my [TS]

00:42:40   red one comic where he kind of he talks [TS]

00:42:42   like in caveman speak and I was like I [TS]

00:42:44   don't understand and know your God [TS]

00:42:45   because i was sold a bill of goods [TS]

00:42:47   obviously in the the screenwriter saw [TS]

00:42:50   episode 3 & 5 & 5 oh that's really good [TS]

00:42:53   we could use that the guy who always I [TS]

00:42:55   am Groot they decided during that [TS]

00:42:57   miniseries I guess didn't tell the [TS]

00:42:59   person who was writing issue for ya [TS]

00:43:02   it wasn't like 2008 and ever since then [TS]

00:43:04   he's only said I am Groot [TS]

00:43:06   welcome to the consistency of marvel [TS]

00:43:09   comics and then see ya [TS]

00:43:11   Oh Marvel I wanted to I wanted to toss [TS]

00:43:14   out [TS]

00:43:14   um I about the Nova perk or just because [TS]

00:43:19   i wanted to i want to mention that I [TS]

00:43:20   thought the ships were kinda neat and [TS]

00:43:21   the fact that they can make like a [TS]

00:43:23   little fully and web Kelly when yeah [TS]

00:43:25   that's all thank you i said it was [TS]

00:43:27   pretty neat me because in the in the [TS]

00:43:29   comics the Nova Corps are superheroes [TS]

00:43:32   basically and so they made them instead [TS]

00:43:34   they made them fighter pilots which i [TS]

00:43:35   think is good and if they ever wanted to [TS]

00:43:37   do a nova movie eventually they could [TS]

00:43:38   say well now that those guys died we [TS]

00:43:40   made the superheroes instead but and [TS]

00:43:42   then john c reilly is fun and peter [TS]

00:43:45   serafinowicz who I if you watch UK TV or [TS]

00:43:49   listen to our UK TV episode [TS]

00:43:51   look around you is fantastic but he was [TS]

00:43:54   also avoid he was the voice of darth [TS]

00:43:56   maul not the body just the voice he's [TS]

00:44:01   great he's perfectly cast because [TS]

00:44:03   there's a moment where he has to speak [TS]

00:44:05   over the radio to Peter Quillin you have [TS]

00:44:07   to know exactly who that is [TS]

00:44:09   and luckily even if you don't know Peter [TS]

00:44:11   Sarafina which your recognizes will know [TS]

00:44:13   the boy has a very distinctive are you [TS]

00:44:15   looking forward to those Andorian police [TS]

00:44:17   procedural where it's him happily [TS]

00:44:19   solving like muggings every week [TS]

00:44:21   ok i would make it happen his brother [TS]

00:44:25   and our long in the past [TS]

00:44:27   when they were there were cookies they [TS]

00:44:29   were just at the end it's a prequel yeah [TS]

00:44:31   yeah and Johnson so Peter Serafinowicz [TS]

00:44:33   and john c reilly and and Marvel trivia [TS]

00:44:37   nerd guy you know how in Greenland in [TS]

00:44:40   green lantern was a Green Lantern [TS]

00:44:42   crashes on earth and he gives his powers [TS]

00:44:44   to a human because he's dying totally [TS]

00:44:48   different subject in the anova number [TS]

00:44:51   one Novak or guy comes to earth and dies [TS]

00:44:54   and gives his powers to somebody's [TS]

00:44:55   totally different totally different but [TS]

00:44:58   anyway that character is john c reilly [TS]

00:44:59   is character the guy who bestows the [TS]

00:45:01   Nova powers on Richard rider in nova is [TS]

00:45:04   Roman day so they they are recycling is [TS]

00:45:06   like totally random Marvel Comics things [TS]

00:45:09   which I really liked but I thought that [TS]

00:45:11   was I thought that was fun and I thought [TS]

00:45:12   them in the police lineup was really [TS]

00:45:14   great i do have a tone question here [TS]

00:45:16   which is this is a Marvel movie where we [TS]

00:45:18   get a lot of like shits but they say a [TS]

00:45:23   holes and that was yeah who is it is [TS]

00:45:27   cool to say a whole now instead of [TS]

00:45:29   asshole over that serafinowicz realizing [TS]

00:45:34   that's funnier [TS]

00:45:35   I don't I just think it's weird funny I [TS]

00:45:37   was like a while they can't say bad [TS]

00:45:38   words and then there's then there are [TS]

00:45:40   multiple shifts in this movie wasn't [TS]

00:45:42   over cork it's where they're coming but [TS]

00:45:44   I think they used up their pg-13 on the [TS]

00:45:48   shits [TS]

00:45:48   yeah I met on the shits and I think it [TS]

00:45:51   sprinkle and it's yeah I don't read a [TS]

00:45:53   rabbit's áááhole yeah i mean they're [TS]

00:45:56   definitely there definitely is specific [TS]

00:45:58   tonal speech for all of the Nova Corps [TS]

00:46:01   the they are the uptight and you have [TS]

00:46:03   again they have they're using that [TS]

00:46:04   Angela close to they are the super we [TS]

00:46:07   are way too perfect and we're not on the [TS]

00:46:09   side of the perfect sci-fi society right [TS]

00:46:12   where we're we're not there boring we [TS]

00:46:15   want to have fun with the guardians of [TS]

00:46:16   the galaxy which i think is really [TS]

00:46:18   effective and they do throw in the word [TS]

00:46:20   dast which is the all-purpose Marvel [TS]

00:46:23   cosmic space they a swear word because [TS]

00:46:26   you need one if your site is your [TS]

00:46:28   frakkin yeah it's here you know [TS]

00:46:30   yeah it's your filter powering its a [TS]

00:46:32   filter carve its rashad spot uh the best [TS]

00:46:39   but I'm not [TS]

00:46:40   I was a little love that was a Robin [TS]

00:46:42   Williams tribute they're a bit [TS]

00:46:44   benicio del toro makes a select a brief [TS]

00:46:47   visit is the collector who I remember [TS]

00:46:49   from contest of Champions which was in [TS]

00:46:51   many ways the original comic book [TS]

00:46:54   miniseries where they got all the heroes [TS]

00:46:56   together and he's in a very weird scene [TS]

00:46:59   which sort of says to me this is going [TS]

00:47:05   to be connected to other movies in the [TS]

00:47:06   future kind of thing more than anything [TS]

00:47:08   else [TS]

00:47:09   there's a cot picture of the Cosmic Cube [TS]

00:47:11   from the Avengers in that in that scene [TS]

00:47:14   and then he's in the end credits scene [TS]

00:47:16   with Howard the Duck I kind of thought [TS]

00:47:18   we were going to see more of the [TS]

00:47:19   collector in this movie I think I think [TS]

00:47:22   there's something rather movies all [TS]

00:47:23   right because there may be there may be [TS]

00:47:25   only so much you can do with the [TS]

00:47:26   collector right and because it's he [TS]

00:47:27   doesn't go places he has agents that you [TS]

00:47:29   know do stuff for him and then you have [TS]

00:47:31   to come to his hideout which is a little [TS]

00:47:32   blown up right now so uh huh [TS]

00:47:34   check in with me later when every model [TS]

00:47:36   you get that kind of feeling of course [TS]

00:47:39   from the from the end credits sequence [TS]

00:47:40   in the the last or movie that he's [TS]

00:47:43   collecting what we now know are infinity [TS]

00:47:46   stone [TS]

00:47:46   yes right mom and while that may tie [TS]

00:47:48   into of adventure story i think it's [TS]

00:47:51   interesting the react when faced its [TS]

00:47:54   phase 3 because of the robot 4tube but [TS]

00:47:57   I'm it may not just be you know Santos [TS]

00:48:02   wants the gauntlet but there may be I [TS]

00:48:04   feel like we will see more of him [TS]

00:48:06   probably not more empowered the duck [TS]

00:48:08   hopeful probably not although that's a [TS]

00:48:09   funny that's a funny little reference [TS]

00:48:10   and their stano's who is actually josh [TS]

00:48:12   brolin who is going to be in other [TS]

00:48:17   Marvel movies and assigned a signed [TS]

00:48:19   contract and whether it's if he appears [TS]

00:48:22   again in Avengers 2 or whether he's only [TS]

00:48:24   saved for Avengers 3 or Thor 3 or [TS]

00:48:26   something like that certainly guardians [TS]

00:48:28   to certainly is to write and then that's [TS]

00:48:30   a nose and I thought that was really [TS]

00:48:31   interesting i'm jim Starlin who created [TS]

00:48:33   a lot of these cosmic characters created [TS]

00:48:35   a nose and he created I think credit [TS]

00:48:38   star-lord and you know that's a really [TS]

00:48:41   interesting character because he is like [TS]

00:48:43   a super the whole idea of those cosmic [TS]

00:48:47   villains it's like it's like dark side [TS]

00:48:49   on on DC it's like they're so power [TS]

00:48:51   you've only met the villains were bad on [TS]

00:48:54   with now there are these villains who [TS]

00:48:55   are so powerful they can destroy [TS]

00:48:56   everything in the universe and fantasies [TS]

00:48:58   like that right and so yeah he's in one [TS]

00:49:01   scene and and you he's the crossover [TS]

00:49:04   with the Avengers because he's in the [TS]

00:49:05   post credits sequence for the Avengers [TS]

00:49:07   he's kinda like the guy who made the [TS]

00:49:08   deal to send the army to Loki to attack [TS]

00:49:11   New York and the Avengers and I thought [TS]

00:49:13   that was a perfectly flying little scene [TS]

00:49:16   with him [TS]

00:49:17   I'm i don't know but it's just it's all [TS]

00:49:19   world-building it's not it doesn't [TS]

00:49:20   really have it and it's part of that and [TS]

00:49:22   confusing exposition part of them it's a [TS]

00:49:24   homework scene right is this is so we [TS]

00:49:26   can do other something I thought it was [TS]

00:49:27   kinda silly and a little you know it's [TS]

00:49:30   you know popped in there without and and [TS]

00:49:33   I didn't even really like the imagery of [TS]

00:49:35   that scene and i like so much of the [TS]

00:49:36   image of the other stuff i was just like [TS]

00:49:37   you have to come meet with me on my [TS]

00:49:39   league on my ass parade always fighting [TS]

00:49:41   every route even though clearly we have [TS]

00:49:44   a great Skype connection that's gonna [TS]

00:49:46   work in other ya know this is my [TS]

00:49:48   floating rock that you saw the Avengers [TS]

00:49:49   remember and her this rock sweet take [TS]

00:49:53   some of the power away but you're doing [TS]

00:49:55   this is still a movie you wouldn't do it [TS]

00:49:57   right you just wouldn't do it sit [TS]

00:49:58   eugenic road [TS]

00:49:59   Ronan the big bad and you wouldn't worry [TS]

00:50:01   about it but they gotta set up other [TS]

00:50:03   stories and so you caught this movie was [TS]

00:50:06   just a little but it was hard because [TS]

00:50:08   they also kind of sacrifice like I mean [TS]

00:50:10   we have not talked about wrote in that [TS]

00:50:11   much so far because I think he he kind [TS]

00:50:14   of laughed a lot why [TS]

00:50:15   yeah I mean it's like we you know all we [TS]

00:50:18   know is he's angry like that it's his [TS]

00:50:20   backstory right yeah like he's angry and [TS]

00:50:23   that's bad now you take your issues but [TS]

00:50:26   anger issues about everything I guess I [TS]

00:50:28   mostly like he's treaty [TS]

00:50:30   yeah peacetreaty he's angry about it I [TS]

00:50:32   almost wish they had like cut out the [TS]

00:50:34   shadows part and giving us a little bit [TS]

00:50:36   more to work with in terms of like who [TS]

00:50:38   is run in why does he have this stuff [TS]

00:50:40   you know what oh yeah Tony you know I [TS]

00:50:41   think that is the number one problem [TS]

00:50:43   with this movie is that Ronan develop a [TS]

00:50:45   little italy pace he's an interesting [TS]

00:50:48   actor and this is Ronan is a a a blank [TS]

00:50:52   he is not interesting in anyway he's you [TS]

00:50:56   know you know do we can debate whether [TS]

00:50:58   he is more or less interesting than Eric [TS]

00:51:00   Bana and star trek but it's one of those [TS]

00:51:02   characters where he's a big bad and he [TS]

00:51:05   supposed to be scary and [TS]

00:51:07   he's nobody and it's really a shame when [TS]

00:51:09   you have all of these other powerful [TS]

00:51:11   personalities and Michael Rooker from [TS]

00:51:15   the walking dead is you as yondu is [TS]

00:51:17   interesting and john mahama sue is an [TS]

00:51:19   interesting [TS]

00:51:21   yondu kind of gets a better seen to show [TS]

00:51:23   how a better badass vs raw my god kill [TS]

00:51:27   like 20 guys with my arrow I control by [TS]

00:51:30   whistling that's really cool i haven't [TS]

00:51:33   seen a movie with the arrow controlled [TS]

00:51:35   by whistling yeah maybe never know where [TS]

00:51:38   is Ronan gets like I'm gonna walk into a [TS]

00:51:40   room and people are gonna put black [TS]

00:51:41   cloaks on me and that's how you know i'm [TS]

00:51:42   bad throw dust on my torso [TS]

00:51:46   yeah i'm i'm going to monologue that's a [TS]

00:51:48   great point or so does is a sign of a [TS]

00:51:51   villain [TS]

00:51:51   no you're right red that's your so dust [TS]

00:51:53   is a big deal just nobody [TS]

00:51:55   yeah yeah going back to the star wars [TS]

00:51:58   comparisons for a second I feel like [TS]

00:52:00   they're like oh well we've got that we [TS]

00:52:02   can get the darth vader character and [TS]

00:52:03   the Empire and the Emperor character and [TS]

00:52:06   you know Darth Vader has that scene [TS]

00:52:07   where like the helmet comes on so maybe [TS]

00:52:10   that's what we're gonna do is we're [TS]

00:52:11   gonna build up this character is big and [TS]

00:52:13   scary and and assuming but we never you [TS]

00:52:16   know we don't get the force choking seen [TS]

00:52:18   never have yes i do we get him we get [TS]

00:52:20   the oh I'm gonna hit somebody with my [TS]

00:52:23   big giant hammer who's already in [TS]

00:52:24   changed which is its I understand the [TS]

00:52:29   comparison and where they're going with [TS]

00:52:30   it but it just doesn't it doesn't quite [TS]

00:52:32   work and eat and he doesn't the the part [TS]

00:52:35   where Ronan starts to be a little bit [TS]

00:52:37   interesting is his reaction to Peter [TS]

00:52:40   quill doing a dance off doesn't yeah so [TS]

00:52:43   don't get some last-minute yeah it's [TS]

00:52:46   also it's hard because none of the [TS]

00:52:48   guardians are really taking that [TS]

00:52:51   seriously either right i mean obviously [TS]

00:52:52   Peter takes nothing seriously but you [TS]

00:52:54   know tracks thinks that he can take them [TS]

00:52:56   on one-on-one so it's like definitely no [TS]

00:52:58   one really thinks he's all that scary [TS]

00:53:00   right you know i gotta be allies that [TS]

00:53:02   beyond the temp workers do right [TS]

00:53:04   you know the big difference between read [TS]

00:53:05   something so they're really struck me [TS]

00:53:06   the big difference between this movie [TS]

00:53:08   and star wars is that I in star wars [TS]

00:53:11   darth vader is one of the main [TS]

00:53:14   instruments of this giant impressive [TS]

00:53:16   vampire and so when we see him he is [TS]

00:53:19   he's not just a scary guy but he is [TS]

00:53:21   commanding a whole bunch of people who [TS]

00:53:23   are doing terrible things at no [TS]

00:53:25   Universal guardians of the galaxy the [TS]

00:53:28   Empire such as it is is zan dar and the [TS]

00:53:32   Nova's and everything else is chaos [TS]

00:53:35   so we've got bad guy org chart Tony [TS]

00:53:39   right bad guy or chart [TS]

00:53:41   well actually i'm showing on the screen [TS]

00:53:42   by the way yes and yes it's good [TS]

00:53:45   microsoft has a plug-in that lets you do [TS]

00:53:46   that and then there's the good guy or [TS]

00:53:48   charts order for the rogue or chart i [TS]

00:53:51   suppose which is the guardians of the [TS]

00:53:52   galaxy and you've got your your your [TS]

00:53:55   Ravagers or chart with with michael [TS]

00:53:57   rooker but it it's um it's all these [TS]

00:54:00   different factions of rebel which [TS]

00:54:02   actually is less complicated than some [TS]

00:54:04   of the guardians of the galaxy comics [TS]

00:54:06   where there is then a separate like [TS]

00:54:07   scroll or Carol I'm sure has the Kree [TS]

00:54:10   Empire all that money out my point is [TS]

00:54:12   that Ronan then is not this enforcer [TS]

00:54:16   from this giant star and part Emperor or [TS]

00:54:19   Empire he is a bad dude who works for [TS]

00:54:22   another bad dude who's fighting with all [TS]

00:54:24   the other groups of bad dudes over stuff [TS]

00:54:27   and that that's not Darth Vader he's not [TS]

00:54:29   Darth Vader he's just some hired you [TS]

00:54:33   know tough guy and as a result Ronan's [TS]

00:54:35   kind of a blank I i totally think that [TS]

00:54:37   this is an example where because they [TS]

00:54:38   have to split the difference between [TS]

00:54:39   running and Thanos that the movie is not [TS]

00:54:42   as strong as it could be because the [TS]

00:54:43   villain has to get weekend for [TS]

00:54:45   continuity it's more like odd jobs [TS]

00:54:47   throwing a tantrum while he's taking a [TS]

00:54:49   break from Goldfinger you know if he's [TS]

00:54:51   he's not that scene where own and throws [TS]

00:54:54   that throws his hat and somebody's been [TS]

00:54:57   weird because I mean Ronan doesn't get [TS]

00:54:59   to do a lot because then Ronan has his [TS]

00:55:00   own guys that he sends out and does [TS]

00:55:02   stuff right immediately core office the [TS]

00:55:04   first bad guy that we see right who's [TS]

00:55:07   his top henchmen who's who's down on the [TS]

00:55:09   planet trying to chase Peter quill and [TS]

00:55:11   keep them from getting the Infinity [TS]

00:55:12   stone and like you know he kind of gets [TS]

00:55:14   almost a decent amount of screen time [TS]

00:55:16   and interact with the the good guys [TS]

00:55:18   way way before opponent for actually act [TS]

00:55:21   like interacts with anybody except like [TS]

00:55:22   via spooky skate connection so yeah he's [TS]

00:55:25   he and management [TS]

00:55:27   yeah that's yeah there's a one of us [TS]

00:55:29   right based on your face [TS]

00:55:30   middle management personnel management [TS]

00:55:32   so much paperwork [TS]

00:55:34   there is a wonderful post at the [TS]

00:55:36   dissolved com [TS]

00:55:38   that's called Marvel's big bad is [TS]

00:55:40   becoming a problem and i'm not i won't [TS]

00:55:43   even go into the whole thing i'll just [TS]

00:55:44   say go read it because it's wonderful [TS]

00:55:47   that talks about how basically after all [TS]

00:55:48   these films so far and all these [TS]

00:55:51   confrontations and everything they're [TS]

00:55:52   building up what his nose done [TS]

00:55:55   he's got the Avengers together and he's [TS]

00:55:57   gotten the guardians of the galaxy yeah [TS]

00:55:59   and all the Infinity stones and gone and [TS]

00:56:01   stuff are safe so far and basically [TS]

00:56:05   Marte the thesis of this is that a [TS]

00:56:09   better comparison for Thanos than [TS]

00:56:11   Emperor Palpatine is dr. Claude from [TS]

00:56:13   inspector gadget is about as effective [TS]

00:56:16   as dr. clay no no you don't understand [TS]

00:56:19   he is he is making all this happen fano [TS]

00:56:21   says Stanley well there ya so he is a [TS]

00:56:24   bad guy [TS]

00:56:25   yeah yeah yeah I mean it's I find a fan [TS]

00:56:30   knows the character again deeply flawed [TS]

00:56:33   and i think at a certain point they [TS]

00:56:35   realize it like I think during [TS]

00:56:37   production they kind of realized well [TS]

00:56:39   it's going to be hard for anyone to take [TS]

00:56:42   this this guy seriously because he is [TS]

00:56:45   middle management and because he's a [TS]

00:56:47   rodent groaning yeah groaning sorry not [TS]

00:56:49   not not a knows he's middleman he's you [TS]

00:56:52   know he's he's supposed to be the big [TS]

00:56:54   bad but he's not the big bad and it's [TS]

00:56:55   it's a compromised roll yeah so now they [TS]

00:56:58   may I mean you have the Guardians not [TS]

00:57:01   taking him so seriously and kind of [TS]

00:57:03   rolling rolling their eyes with the [TS]

00:57:05   exception of course Gomorrah who i guess [TS]

00:57:08   probably knows a little bit more about [TS]

00:57:10   what Roman actually has done beyond you [TS]

00:57:12   know malady me into one person but there [TS]

00:57:15   was a there was an interview that i read [TS]

00:57:17   with james gunn after I saw the movie [TS]

00:57:19   where he mentioned that originally his [TS]

00:57:21   plan was to have to have a nose as the [TS]

00:57:23   big bad and that midway through Marvel [TS]

00:57:27   was kinda like yeah we're gonna take him [TS]

00:57:30   and we need him for Avengers 3 yeah [TS]

00:57:33   exactly exactly and so they're like oh [TS]

00:57:35   crud [TS]

00:57:37   yeah we rework this a little bit so i [TS]

00:57:40   think the you know it was supposed to be [TS]

00:57:42   a little bit dr. Clough [TS]

00:57:44   scooby-doo ask when the Guardians the [TS]

00:57:46   Guardians butting heads against the [TS]

00:57:48   house and having the first big [TS]

00:57:49   confrontation and instead you got to get [TS]

00:57:52   this thing with Ronan which again I feel [TS]

00:57:54   like because the Guardians don't take it [TS]

00:57:58   so seriously when I went in and watched [TS]

00:58:01   it the second time I didn't really take [TS]

00:58:03   it all that seriously either and looking [TS]

00:58:06   at him as though I'm a you know I feel [TS]

00:58:09   so big and powerful because I've got a [TS]

00:58:11   warship and I'm gonna do things and then [TS]

00:58:13   you basically have that scene where [TS]

00:58:14   Thanos kinda is just leaning back in his [TS]

00:58:17   chair being like oh boy you silly person [TS]

00:58:20   you know you you go fetch me my stone [TS]

00:58:24   and have some fun nicer by the way you [TS]

00:58:27   yeah mmm yeah it's real easy d it's got [TS]

00:58:31   a little vibrator in the back for like [TS]

00:58:33   but the lumbar support [TS]

00:58:35   well I mean if you're sitting on an [TS]

00:58:37   asteroid all day getting a little bit [TS]

00:58:39   hurt [TS]

00:58:40   yeah i don't know if i was on the [TS]

00:58:41   airplane was because you can I want to [TS]

00:58:44   talk really quickly about Peter quill [TS]

00:58:46   because we talked a little bit of sweat [TS]

00:58:47   the thing for me that really made him [TS]

00:58:52   such an interesting character is [TS]

00:58:55   actually the thing that normally really [TS]

00:58:57   bugs me about movie's release lately [TS]

00:59:00   which is the pop culture references on [TS]

00:59:02   in terms of the fact that quill is [TS]

00:59:05   painted and in such a wonderful way as a [TS]

00:59:08   twelve-year-old with space toys as I [TS]

00:59:12   like he's he's supposed to be the early [TS]

00:59:14   thirties in this movie on and in some [TS]

00:59:17   ways you can tell that yes he is [TS]

00:59:18   competent he's a very good spaceship [TS]

00:59:20   pilot and he knows how to get himself [TS]

00:59:22   out of a jam but you've got the music [TS]

00:59:25   which we've talked about to a certain [TS]

00:59:26   extent on influencing his his abilities [TS]

00:59:30   and his uh you know steadfast devotion [TS]

00:59:33   to these things of his childhood because [TS]

00:59:35   the only things he knows and the only [TS]

00:59:38   things that tie him to earth so you've [TS]

00:59:40   got these occasional weird pop culture [TS]

00:59:42   references and you've got him talking to [TS]

00:59:44   rocket ohakune you know you've got far [TS]

00:59:46   Ranger Rick all of that fo and it's yeah [TS]

00:59:50   it's it's pulled out so it's pulled out [TS]

00:59:54   so intentionally on that it [TS]

00:59:57   it works as a way to further define hit [TS]

00:59:57   it works as a way to further define hit [TS]

01:00:00   character rather than just we're going [TS]

01:00:02   to say a pop culture reference and it's [TS]

01:00:03   gonna be funny you just he's innocent [TS]

01:00:06   you know he's in he's the ultimate kid [TS]

01:00:09   and arrested development [TS]

01:00:10   he's a kid who got to you got abducted [TS]

01:00:12   and then now has eight his own spaceship [TS]

01:00:15   and as you know some deep-seated [TS]

01:00:20   deep-seated a belief in doing what's [TS]

01:00:22   right when it really comes down to it [TS]

01:00:25   but it is kind of a tool like a lovable [TS]

01:00:27   tool but what a tool and well you know [TS]

01:00:30   if you think about it [TS]

01:00:31   three-fifths of them are no you know [TS]

01:00:34   grown man child type unique will and [TS]

01:00:38   group and racks and it's getting more [TS]

01:00:41   and rocket who are presumably mature [TS]

01:00:44   adults and maybe that's not the word but [TS]

01:00:46   Jillian but I don't know but but but [TS]

01:00:49   peter has never had to grow up right in [TS]

01:00:51   fact I think that writer of the [TS]

01:00:52   suggestion here is that because he's [TS]

01:00:54   been with the Ravagers he is in this XP [TS]

01:00:57   extended period of being like a teenager [TS]

01:01:00   he's not a adult he's uh yeah this [TS]

01:01:04   within the Lost Boys this definitely [TS]

01:01:06   movie feels like this [TS]

01:01:09   Peter quills story here is that he's [TS]

01:01:11   finally got to grow up a little bit yeah [TS]

01:01:13   i did like that he's not just saying pop [TS]

01:01:16   culture references he's saying the [TS]

01:01:18   appropriate pop culture references for [TS]

01:01:19   this character right nothing after 1988 [TS]

01:01:22   and nobody out of ya after I got out of [TS]

01:01:25   the movie I was a little bothered by the [TS]

01:01:27   fact that they were all accurate because [TS]

01:01:29   i'm not sure how well I do at saying [TS]

01:01:34   only things that happened to me up until [TS]

01:01:36   I was 12 if I never had abducted by [TS]

01:01:38   aliens right if that was your night Hank [TS]

01:01:41   yeah you you would focus on it and to [TS]

01:01:44   turn those over and over and over and [TS]

01:01:46   over in your head but wouldn't it be [TS]

01:01:48   more fun if he got one wrong maybe he's [TS]

01:01:51   got his trapper keeper in his backpack [TS]

01:01:52   with like he's like top 10 list yeah you [TS]

01:01:55   know we we have seen over again we see [TS]

01:01:57   the little cards that he has stuck [TS]

01:01:59   around the spaceship and we see the [TS]

01:02:00   trolls and yes good use electro ball [TS]

01:02:03   yeah troll doll because I was like well [TS]

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01:04:52   one thing I really liked about this [TS]

01:04:54   movie is how colorful it is especially [TS]

01:04:56   comparing it to DC's movies especially [TS]

01:04:59   but yeah that's the seemed are going on [TS]

01:05:02   a chromatic yeah sad be wound leak i [TS]

01:05:07   really like the scene where quill and [TS]

01:05:10   Gomorrah are out on that balcony outside [TS]

01:05:12   the bar and the background is just this [TS]

01:05:15   crazy swirling mass of color that looks [TS]

01:05:18   like jim Starlin painted it [TS]

01:05:20   oh yeah and that one scene it felt like [TS]

01:05:23   Marvel space comics to me and also had [TS]

01:05:26   more color than will be a whole Superman [TS]

01:05:29   vs Batman the entirety of nowhere [TS]

01:05:33   yeah that oh I so I want to go see it [TS]

01:05:36   the movie again on on our local 80-foot [TS]

01:05:40   I max screen specifically to see that [TS]

01:05:43   scene again and i imagine that I [TS]

01:05:45   probably want to go another time to the [TS]

01:05:47   like it's like it's not necessarily that [TS]

01:05:50   the movie is so amazingly over-the-top [TS]

01:05:53   good that I'm like again again again [TS]

01:05:55   oh it's it's pretty good but the the [TS]

01:05:58   visuals are really they demand being [TS]

01:06:01   seen on a big screen in a way that a lot [TS]

01:06:04   of movies recently don't so much like [TS]

01:06:07   okay you can see a lot of buildings [TS]

01:06:08   blow-up that's fun but a if but being [TS]

01:06:12   able to like yes the giant head of a [TS]

01:06:14   dead Celestia and then we zoom in and [TS]

01:06:17   it's this beautifully intricate mining [TS]

01:06:20   colony with things flowing over and [TS]

01:06:23   beautiful color theory and you've got [TS]

01:06:26   managed a dream blasting in your ears [TS]

01:06:28   it's just it's so note perfect [TS]

01:06:32   yeah yeah i mean i want to see it again [TS]

01:06:36   and again just because it's beautiful to [TS]

01:06:38   look at [TS]

01:06:39   I was saying about the landscapes it [TS]

01:06:40   just it looks like all the great you [TS]

01:06:44   know thirties and forties Golden Age of [TS]

01:06:47   sci-fi pulp magazine covers it is a you [TS]

01:06:50   know Chesley bone still paintings and [TS]

01:06:53   the whole goal here is to have I mean [TS]

01:06:56   this is about eight a fun movie in a [TS]

01:06:58   space movie and Marvel a kind of feel [TS]

01:07:01   like at times Marvel's plan with the [TS]

01:07:02   houses money here they're like you know [TS]

01:07:04   we have done so much that's been [TS]

01:07:06   successful the weekend afford to take a [TS]

01:07:08   chance on something and let's make it a [TS]

01:07:10   sci-fi movie and let's make it fun and [TS]

01:07:12   irreverent and make it look not like [TS]

01:07:14   every other sci-fi movie and that you [TS]

01:07:18   know you can get it does feel like a [TS]

01:07:21   gamble [TS]

01:07:22   I'm not necessarily a totally insane [TS]

01:07:24   gamble but it does feel like they they [TS]

01:07:26   had enough clout that they could they [TS]

01:07:29   could do this and see how it went and [TS]

01:07:32   and it has been wildly successful which [TS]

01:07:35   is great to see ya [TS]

01:07:36   and honestly whoever is cutting their [TS]

01:07:38   trailers need to raise oh my god [TS]

01:07:40   well the trailer is the trailer is [TS]

01:07:42   better than the movie i actually think i [TS]

01:07:44   like i like the movie and I love the [TS]

01:07:47   trailer the trailer and although i will [TS]

01:07:49   say this this is something that you know [TS]

01:07:51   so many trailers give away all the [TS]

01:07:52   anything that's funny they give away all [TS]

01:07:54   the good jokes the trailers there are a [TS]

01:07:55   lot of fantastic jokes in this movie [TS]

01:07:57   that were never spoiled by the trailers [TS]

01:08:00   and thank i gotta give them a raise for [TS]

01:08:02   that too that they did they they kept [TS]

01:08:05   their powder dry [TS]

01:08:06   they only use some of the jokes they [TS]

01:08:07   kept some of the jokes behind and he was [TS]

01:08:10   almost nothing of rocket i know right [TS]

01:08:12   and the use of hooked on a feeling the [TS]

01:08:14   first trailer and spirit in the sky in [TS]

01:08:16   the second trailer beautiful cutting of [TS]

01:08:19   of visual you to audio and and there's [TS]

01:08:23   almost none of those songs in the movie [TS]

01:08:25   I mean hooked on a feeling is just in [TS]

01:08:27   the background makes you wonder why [TS]

01:08:28   hooked on a feeling [TS]

01:08:30   a why that choice right and then when [TS]

01:08:32   you see the movie and you see the tape [TS]

01:08:33   like oh it actually yeah it actually is [TS]

01:08:37   like a planting a seed for the for what [TS]

01:08:40   the movie is going to have in it which [TS]

01:08:41   we have instead of it being just a [TS]

01:08:43   quirky mood music choice it's actually [TS]

01:08:45   about the plot of the movie was very [TS]

01:08:47   integral yeah when Great has been killed [TS]

01:08:49   me [TS]

01:08:50   and at the beginning of the movie when [TS]

01:08:52   young peter is there and his mother is [TS]

01:08:54   dying and and my twelve-year-old kind of [TS]

01:08:57   these areas are you gonna cry no no I'm [TS]

01:09:00   fine I'm fine and you know it's just [TS]

01:09:02   it's really dusty in here it was getting [TS]

01:09:04   a little dusty but you know I I held it [TS]

01:09:06   together but at the end when when he [TS]

01:09:08   finally opens up his his gift from his [TS]

01:09:11   mother that he never hand up and I won't [TS]

01:09:12   say what that is because spoiler or not [TS]

01:09:14   that should be a good surprise [TS]

01:09:17   I looked over and he's just kind of you [TS]

01:09:19   know yeah like are you going to craigs [TS]

01:09:22   yeah at the end of the day I think one [TS]

01:09:29   of the things that i love about this [TS]

01:09:30   movie and one of the reasons why I've [TS]

01:09:33   gone to see it a couple times and and [TS]

01:09:35   want to see it again is that it has [TS]

01:09:38   heart and it has emotion in a wave that [TS]

01:09:40   a lot of movies recently you know [TS]

01:09:44   especially genre films i do not and I [TS]

01:09:47   don't mean emotion Justin the you know [TS]

01:09:48   it's dusty in here kind of emotion but [TS]

01:09:51   it makes you laugh so hard it makes you [TS]

01:09:54   hurt you know there are the moment the [TS]

01:09:58   moment where group sacrifices himself [TS]

01:10:01   it makes you it makes you hurt it really [TS]

01:10:04   like you may not you may not be balling [TS]

01:10:06   but you you feel something even that the [TS]

01:10:09   climactic moment of the movie which [TS]

01:10:12   should be so ridiculously can't be that [TS]

01:10:15   you would laugh is actually moving and [TS]

01:10:19   touching and then there's that one [TS]

01:10:20   there's sort of a flash which again I [TS]

01:10:22   won't spoil on as to how it had goes but [TS]

01:10:26   during that climax where Peter quill is [TS]

01:10:29   looking at somebody and then suddenly [TS]

01:10:30   he's looking at somebody else and don't [TS]

01:10:32   know that yes you are yes you it's me as [TS]

01:10:36   hell but it works [TS]

01:10:38   yeah they've earned it and it's to me [TS]

01:10:41   the fact that this movie can pull that [TS]

01:10:44   off despite its flaws despite its quirks [TS]

01:10:47   means that it's a it's something that's [TS]

01:10:50   going to stick with me and it's [TS]

01:10:50   something that i wanted i want to see [TS]

01:10:52   again and i want to quote and I want to [TS]

01:10:55   you know put on my shelf out of the rest [TS]

01:10:57   of you a sort of rate this calibrate [TS]

01:11:00   this movie we all have spoken charitably [TS]

01:11:02   of it but I'm kind of curious [TS]

01:11:03   nowhere what do you know where does it [TS]

01:11:06   where does it fall is it a you know [TS]

01:11:08   really fantastic fun movie is it sort of [TS]

01:11:10   in the middle i'm i'm curious about that [TS]

01:11:11   David what do you think I you know it's [TS]

01:11:15   one of those movies where I can see [TS]

01:11:17   little problems with it that maybe I [TS]

01:11:19   would tweak and especially hearing about [TS]

01:11:22   how Marvel said no no we want fantasy [TS]

01:11:24   you have to rework this and it's like [TS]

01:11:26   well [TS]

01:11:26   oh that explains a lot of the little [TS]

01:11:30   issues ahead with it you know i think [TS]

01:11:32   that the first half hour could be a [TS]

01:11:34   little tighter i think it doesn't really [TS]

01:11:36   take off until the prison break but from [TS]

01:11:39   that point on it's just it hits the [TS]

01:11:40   ground and keeps going except when you [TS]

01:11:42   have to like see brown and talking but [TS]

01:11:45   yeah that doesn't happen [TS]

01:11:47   no it doesn't happen a lot especially [TS]

01:11:48   out of the first 30 min and and it moves [TS]

01:11:51   again it moves really quickly and so [TS]

01:11:53   it's one of those movies that i just [TS]

01:11:54   installed android so damn much [TS]

01:11:57   I don't care about the problems that I [TS]

01:11:59   never picked out with it [TS]

01:12:01   thank you know I it's like the Harlan [TS]

01:12:03   Ellison line from from his movie [TS]

01:12:05   reviewing days [TS]

01:12:06   it kept me wrapped and happy as a dance [TS]

01:12:08   before my eyes and it did it's just you [TS]

01:12:11   know and it's it's it's the thing you [TS]

01:12:13   said and and Wren said it's it's just [TS]

01:12:16   fun and so many movies have forgotten to [TS]

01:12:19   be fun and especially comic book movies [TS]

01:12:22   they've forgotten to be fun and they've [TS]

01:12:24   forgotten that heroes can be heroes [TS]

01:12:26   because they're just good people [TS]

01:12:29   Superman is just good he's not [TS]

01:12:31   conflicted shut up anyway [TS]

01:12:33   ok I wasn't on that podcast oh don't [TS]

01:12:35   thank goodness for that [TS]

01:12:37   well that's okay we have been weeded to [TS]

01:12:38   death anyway oh yeah you you get you [TS]

01:12:40   gotta Tony what do you think about where [TS]

01:12:43   this one fits i i'm i'm in agreement on [TS]

01:12:47   i think this was really fun movie for me [TS]

01:12:49   and there are things I quibble about and [TS]

01:12:51   that I you know I can always kind of [TS]

01:12:53   nitpick but i was i was really fun and I [TS]

01:12:56   have pretty high expectations going into [TS]

01:12:57   this I you know I enjoy all the kind of [TS]

01:12:59   marvel cinematic movies of the last [TS]

01:13:01   couple I think have enjoyed a lot but [TS]

01:13:03   they have definitely been not as fun if [TS]

01:13:05   you look at the like phase 2 right i [TS]

01:13:07   mean 42 and Captain America to our i [TS]

01:13:10   enjoyed those release other people and [TS]

01:13:12   out of but they're not they're not [TS]

01:13:13   really as fun as some of the earlier [TS]

01:13:15   ironman steyr man 3 not as fun as [TS]

01:13:17   earlier iron man so for me this was [TS]

01:13:19   really fun I i would put this up there [TS]

01:13:21   is you know I think this is probably the [TS]

01:13:23   most fun movie I'd seen since the [TS]

01:13:25   world's end you know one of the most fun [TS]

01:13:28   super seen in a long long time but uh [TS]

01:13:30   but it's also not super far back so yeah [TS]

01:13:33   they're the things i can nitpick but [TS]

01:13:34   there's there's a lot about this movie [TS]

01:13:36   that's really good and it was really fun [TS]

01:13:38   for me and I was i I waiting with high [TS]

01:13:40   expectations and my expectations were [TS]

01:13:42   surpassed nice Monty what it was your [TS]

01:13:45   overall verdict [TS]

01:13:47   well like everyone else I thought this [TS]

01:13:48   movie was super super fun [TS]

01:13:50   um it's not flawless i agree with some [TS]

01:13:55   of the people on the internet who [TS]

01:13:56   pointed out certain sexist elements of [TS]

01:13:58   the movie like Drax is completely [TS]

01:14:02   literal with everything except for that [TS]

01:14:03   time because Gomorrah whore [TS]

01:14:05   yeah yeah yeahs not grant yeah but I [TS]

01:14:10   don't like the climactic bitch Tyrone in [TS]

01:14:12   either quite frantic yeah but i enjoyed [TS]

01:14:16   watching this movie so much that I view [TS]

01:14:18   those as flaws in a really fun movie [TS]

01:14:21   where it's my didn't enjoy the movie i [TS]

01:14:23   might view them differently [TS]

01:14:25   yeah well I mean as we said with [TS]

01:14:27   everything in this is like goes back to [TS]

01:14:28   winning and he was on talking about the [TS]

01:14:30   Avengers just like look if the spell is [TS]

01:14:31   broken or if it's never cast for you [TS]

01:14:33   then it's just not gonna work and that [TS]

01:14:36   happens with movies sometimes I'm with [TS]

01:14:39   i'm with you guys I I think we're all on [TS]

01:14:41   a but we didn't like to a loyalty test [TS]

01:14:43   before we started this episode i'm with [TS]

01:14:45   you i I'm like I think Rand is the most [TS]

01:14:48   enthusiastic about it I i liked it i [TS]

01:14:51   didn't love it but I liked it and I want [TS]

01:14:53   to see it again because it was fun and [TS]

01:14:55   because i feel like the more I watch it [TS]

01:14:57   the more I'm going to appreciate a lot [TS]

01:14:58   of the details that I i focused in on [TS]

01:15:00   that I really love like fruit for [TS]

01:15:03   example but a lot of it is really fun [TS]

01:15:05   and I and if that goes a long way to me [TS]

01:15:08   is it is seeing a movie i mean i i've [TS]

01:15:10   said this before in this podcast like [TS]

01:15:12   when my wife and I came out of serenity [TS]

01:15:14   the the firefly follow-up movie we [TS]

01:15:17   looked each other and were like that was [TS]

01:15:19   just fun that we haven't come out of a [TS]

01:15:21   sci-fi fantasy movie and just felt like [TS]

01:15:23   exhilarated with how fun the ride was in [TS]

01:15:26   a long time [TS]

01:15:27   which isn't to say that there are other [TS]

01:15:28   our amazing movies in the genre and that [TS]

01:15:31   isn't great that sometimes John movies [TS]

01:15:32   take themselves seriously and say [TS]

01:15:34   serious things but there is something to [TS]

01:15:36   be said for a movie that's fun and [TS]

01:15:39   guardians of the galaxy is fun i don't [TS]

01:15:41   think it was as good as Captain America [TS]

01:15:44   to actually I like that movie better if [TS]

01:15:47   I I all the way sources with Tony saying [TS]

01:15:49   it was not that's not weird comparison [TS]

01:15:51   as fun when yeah very different they're [TS]

01:15:53   very Tories are you totally didn't I [TS]

01:15:55   I've seen some people say oh Marvel this [TS]

01:15:57   is the greatest thing at like yeah I [TS]

01:15:59   actually I I wouldn't it's not the best [TS]

01:16:01   movie I saw this summer it's not the [TS]

01:16:03   best Marvel movie I saw this summer but [TS]

01:16:04   it's fun in a way it is the most fun me [TS]

01:16:06   is like Thor 2 is terrible but anyway [TS]

01:16:09   that's another there are more fun movies [TS]

01:16:12   I should be watching don't know but yeah [TS]

01:16:14   I my money that where it's funny that [TS]

01:16:16   we're all worried grab me that work [TS]

01:16:17   bored fun but I'm right there with you [TS]

01:16:19   it's like it buys off a lot of flaws [TS]

01:16:22   because of the tone and the style and [TS]

01:16:25   the joy in the telling and the fun of [TS]

01:16:29   these characters and how they're a [TS]

01:16:30   little bit different from the usual so i [TS]

01:16:32   might I just liked that it was it was a [TS]

01:16:34   movie that i took both of the boys to on [TS]

01:16:37   opening night for the first show and [TS]

01:16:39   they were both excited about it and we [TS]

01:16:40   all watched it and we wanted to watch it [TS]

01:16:42   immediately as soon as it was done and I [TS]

01:16:45   don't think we've seen anything that's [TS]

01:16:46   done that all that's something else I [TS]

01:16:48   really appreciate about it now we no [TS]

01:16:50   longer have midnight Thursday night [TS]

01:16:53   showings we have seven pm-3 and showing [TS]

01:16:55   so I can see the first showing yeah it's [TS]

01:16:57   a bed [TS]

01:16:58   yes much much more fishy old person's [TS]

01:17:01   women yeah p.m. the thing actually that [TS]

01:17:03   I wanted to to say before we can close [TS]

01:17:06   it out is it actually serenity is a good [TS]

01:17:08   a good comparison and and that's [TS]

01:17:10   actually where i would rank where like I [TS]

01:17:12   really enjoy this movie and it it's one [TS]

01:17:15   of those things where it's like like [TS]

01:17:16   serenity like The Rocketeer you know [TS]

01:17:19   movies that mark I wouldn't necessarily [TS]

01:17:21   put in my top five like desert island [TS]

01:17:24   pics but movies that like I want to feel [TS]

01:17:27   a certain way you know I want to not be [TS]

01:17:30   depressed I want to have a good fun [TS]

01:17:32   escape his time at the movies [TS]

01:17:34   guardians is definitely on that list and [TS]

01:17:36   probably very high up that list where [TS]

01:17:38   it's like this this captures a certain [TS]

01:17:41   a certain kind of fun a certain emotion [TS]

01:17:43   that you want to pop in on like a rainy [TS]

01:17:46   day and just be like oh you know what [TS]

01:17:48   I'm gonna go visit my friends chris [TS]

01:17:50   pratt & and so is saldana and and [TS]

01:17:53   Bradley Cooper and watch them take over [TS]

01:17:55   the you know the computer models of [TS]

01:17:57   crude rocket yes it's fizzy yes can I [TS]

01:18:03   recommend another james gunn movie [TS]

01:18:05   people may not have heard of sure it's [TS]

01:18:07   the specials from 2000 or 2000 2003 it's [TS]

01:18:12   a about a group of misfits superheroes [TS]

01:18:15   and it stars drop rob lowe and Thomas [TS]

01:18:17   Haden Church and judy greer and pageant [TS]

01:18:19   rooster he made it for a million dollars [TS]

01:18:22   and it's super cheap and I think it's a [TS]

01:18:23   lot of fun huh [TS]

01:18:25   alright it's way more fun than the [TS]

01:18:27   Super's ok the specials not the Super's [TS]

01:18:30   not the ropers internationals got it all [TS]

01:18:35   right well I think we've reached the end [TS]

01:18:36   but this was fun to talk about a movie [TS]

01:18:38   that we've seen recently instead of a [TS]

01:18:40   movie from the distant past which is [TS]

01:18:41   usually what we do on this podcast so [TS]

01:18:44   and I'm glad I finally got to see it [TS]

01:18:45   because i don't see that many movies in [TS]

01:18:47   theaters these days and I got to see [TS]

01:18:49   this one within a week of its release [TS]

01:18:51   which is really exciting [TS]

01:18:52   alright we've reached the end so I want [TS]

01:18:54   to thank my guests as i always do monte [TS]

01:18:56   Ashley thank you so much for being here [TS]

01:18:58   thank you it's great having you here [TS]

01:19:01   David lower thank you for being here [TS]

01:19:03   your skype avatar is now you with Rocket [TS]

01:19:05   Raccoon boy i'm i'm gonna need that [TS]

01:19:07   guy's I before we go [TS]

01:19:09   yeah that's right i'll get to the but I [TS]

01:19:11   got to this leg what are you talking [TS]

01:19:12   about that i need the leg and the eye as [TS]

01:19:15   he secretly building a person it could [TS]

01:19:17   be rocket and I wouldn't put a password [TS]

01:19:18   or like an exoskeleton he can he can [TS]

01:19:21   like whereas a disguise [TS]

01:19:23   oh yeah that might be fun it's important [TS]

01:19:26   yeah Tony Tony similar thank you so much [TS]

01:19:30   for being here [TS]

01:19:31   well presented a podcast is better than [TS]

01:19:33   eleven percent of a podcast and [TS]

01:19:37   guardians of the galaxy called well [TS]

01:19:39   thank you for people because it's a [TS]

01:19:42   plated serenity in your heart you see so [TS]

01:19:44   it's [TS]

01:19:45   very nice i appreciate it thank you for [TS]

01:19:50   being there was a lot of fun I'm glad [TS]

01:19:51   I'm glad we got to talk to talk about [TS]

01:19:53   with you [TS]

01:19:54   me too all right and thank you everybody [TS]

01:19:56   out there for listening to this super [TS]

01:19:58   current unless your listing from 2019 [TS]

01:20:02   episode of the uncomfortable talking [TS]

01:20:04   about guardians of the galaxy we [TS]

01:20:05   appreciate it and we're going to be [TS]

01:20:06   stuck with us we'll see you next week [TS]

01:20:08   and thanks for listening to buy [TS]