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00:00:04 ◼ ► Touch wood but not too often cause you got to say when I touch the would I get upset [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4">TS</a>]
00:00:09 ◼ ► when you touch your wood don't you send the stuff you're not normally that route every street sometimes I do know I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/9">TS</a>]
00:00:17 ◼ ► know you today he did you have a noise he said the word naughty is one of these cultural differences I think for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/17">TS</a>]
00:00:23 ◼ ► Americans this is quite a sexy word but for English people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/23">TS</a>]
00:00:27 ◼ ► and Australians it is not a sexy word now it's like it's word to use for children like to be noisy. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/27">TS</a>]
00:00:33 ◼ ► Yeah I have heard this over wavin children contacts like with little kids. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/33">TS</a>]
00:00:40 ◼ ► but I don't think no matter how long I'm here will I ever get comfortable with listening to adults tell little children [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/40">TS</a>]
00:00:47 ◼ ► about how naughty there being it's like oh God it's just that I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/47">TS</a>]
00:00:52 ◼ ► and I never I just don't think of the word noting that you day I know I know you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/52">TS</a>]
00:00:56 ◼ ► but it's just it is unsettling to me. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/56">TS</a>]
00:01:01 ◼ ► but I feel like this is an American thing I might be wrong about this though you know I can see on videos do I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/61">TS</a>]
00:01:07 ◼ ► or have we started we don't make you see faces to make you laugh out loud I think nobody now minimizing you now this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/67">TS</a>]
00:01:19 ◼ ► Yeah the company's collapse of the official start there on how to what do we do we officially stuff how does the share [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/79">TS</a>]
00:01:25 ◼ ► stuff we go through follow up and you've written the first thing for out and you've written the first thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/85">TS</a>]
00:01:30 ◼ ► and follow up with goods goodies that was me covering it up so that I can do it added later we had unity would you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/90">TS</a>]
00:01:38 ◼ ► never protect me with that he's reached out to is my you do this all the time you say things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/98">TS</a>]
00:01:45 ◼ ► but you're just super sensitive to I have to say right here in the last episode I did notice what a good job you did. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/105">TS</a>]
00:01:53 ◼ ► Improving May thank you for the first time. Well either that or I've got a lot better between episodes. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/113">TS</a>]
00:02:00 ◼ ► but I think it's more likely you would need to be more diligent with the editing I was not more diligent I do the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/120">TS</a>]
00:02:05 ◼ ► thing that I do all the time it was and I think it better. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/125">TS</a>]
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00:02:13 ◼ ► both of us from ourselves in the editing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/133">TS</a>]
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00:02:23 ◼ ► final edit that's a whole is fine by me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/143">TS</a>]
00:02:26 ◼ ► but three added to a maxed out for edits now OK for you to are you taking on the Fourth at it is that what you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/146">TS</a>]
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00:02:37 ◼ ► You're too much of a control freak if you wanted to do a fourth at it after I have done three edits I'd be fine without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/157">TS</a>]
00:02:43 ◼ ► now because I've put in things that you wouldn't like like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/163">TS</a>]
00:02:46 ◼ ► when I say added I don't mean you get to just add in clown honking sounds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/166">TS</a>]
00:02:51 ◼ ► or would it like whatever you're going to put in I just mean edit in the way that idea of cut down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/171">TS</a>]
00:02:56 ◼ ► and make shorter That's what I mean by bite at her I'm going to do one of those that I'd be happy if you don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/176">TS</a>]
00:03:01 ◼ ► plan something sounds fun they that way. Let's start follow up. OK what's the C.C.C. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/181">TS</a>]
00:03:09 ◼ ► Thing in the follow up what do you think that stands for corporate compensation corner you are a good man. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/189">TS</a>]
00:03:18 ◼ ► Goodman really going to have another corner. OK yep its corporate compensation course this isn't new. We really don't. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/198">TS</a>]
00:03:24 ◼ ► Corporate this is corporate compensation corn a follow up. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/204">TS</a>]
00:03:28 ◼ ► Yeah remember we talked about me getting stranded on the runway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/208">TS</a>]
00:03:32 ◼ ► and then the lighter they are decided I'd throw my hat in the ring and try and get this compensation in Europe. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/212">TS</a>]
00:03:38 ◼ ► Apparently your entire to tell you and you told me I'd have to jump through a thousand hopes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/218">TS</a>]
00:03:41 ◼ ► and I'd never get up I gotta Wow And you know what I didn't even know I'd got it I was going through my bank account [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/221">TS</a>]
00:03:51 ◼ ► today for sorting out the tax mend there was an entry there that completely bemused man I'm not stuck with that money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/231">TS</a>]
00:03:59 ◼ ► Quantas and they had paid me this chunk of money that keeping me stranded on the runway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/239">TS</a>]
00:04:06 ◼ ► and I was like oh I never told me that I didn't know I was getting that money and I went through my A mouse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/246">TS</a>]
00:04:10 ◼ ► and sure enough I even got an email that I'd missed saying we've decided that you are going to get the money will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/250">TS</a>]
00:04:16 ◼ ► sending you the money to your bank account and because I know of. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/256">TS</a>]
00:04:19 ◼ ► Quanta say mouse because they usually Spann telling me to go on. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/259">TS</a>]
00:04:22 ◼ ► Slots and things like that and I had just not read this email from Qantas and it was for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/262">TS</a>]
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00:04:33 ◼ ► Another join to share with the audience how much it was it was four hundred and forty pounds. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/273">TS</a>]
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00:04:45 ◼ ► and I was a trip to extract it so I was expensive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/285">TS</a>]
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00:04:53 ◼ ► about the trip. True I did get there. Incredibly light Mr party the spread of the nothing it is better than nothing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/293">TS</a>]
00:05:01 ◼ ► That's true I'm very happy for you. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/301">TS</a>]
00:05:03 ◼ ► Brady I've got more corporate compensation CORDONE Yes Man this is this is an amazing start for anybody who this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/303">TS</a>]
00:05:11 ◼ ► their first listen to the hello internet pod cast if this is your first ever said a prayer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/311">TS</a>]
00:05:15 ◼ ► when spent basically welcome to this podcast where we spend a lot of time talking about our efforts to get compensation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/315">TS</a>]
00:05:21 ◼ ► from companies. No we don't. This but this is never happened before. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/321">TS</a>]
00:05:25 ◼ ► This is mention offhandedly once before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/325">TS</a>]
00:05:27 ◼ ► and now we're just getting follow up from it because Brady likes to turn everything into a corner like a good karma for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/327">TS</a>]
00:05:35 ◼ ► the next part of this let's try to move along a fat the weekend I mentioned in the last episode that been a parade of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/335">TS</a>]
00:05:40 ◼ ► me and my family and I was actually supposed to be going on holiday that wake and obviously we didn't go on holiday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/340">TS</a>]
00:05:47 ◼ ► and the flotsam I was going on that wake will kind of cheaper airlines you know the easy chair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/347">TS</a>]
00:05:53 ◼ ► and Ryanair we actually had it easy Jet fly and a Ryanair fly I wasn't even going to try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/353">TS</a>]
00:05:58 ◼ ► and get compensation from them because we just didn't take the slots we can even cold yet lobby just said well we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/358">TS</a>]
00:06:05 ◼ ► And then notorious for being pretty tight there's a lot with money so I thought Well that definitely won't be worth the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/365">TS</a>]
00:06:10 ◼ ► trouble but my wife said I go on what kind of hair that send them a couple of a mouse. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/370">TS</a>]
00:06:16 ◼ ► Both of them fully refundable slots while couldn't believe it's in the May We're really good Gray do you know I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/376">TS</a>]
00:06:24 ◼ ► pretty quick to complain about bad customer service [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/384">TS</a>]
00:06:27 ◼ ► and the slag people off so I think it's only fair that occasionally when someone does the right thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/387">TS</a>]
00:06:32 ◼ ► and tricks Mira I've given the mention I'm still not recommending flying Easyjet Ronit terrible and gin. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/392">TS</a>]
00:06:43 ◼ ► Lesson I kind of have to sometimes fly with them but I would recommend them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/403">TS</a>]
00:06:47 ◼ ► but most of them they really deliver the goods they were they were sympathetic to have to fund at the slots could own a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/407">TS</a>]
00:06:55 ◼ ► glad that their customer service made you happy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/415">TS</a>]
00:06:57 ◼ ► but at least with the Jets I find there we don't assign any seats until the gate maneuver. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/417">TS</a>]
00:07:04 ◼ ► Basically causes a cattle stampede every time you're trying to get on one of their airplanes A.Z. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/424">TS</a>]
00:07:10 ◼ ► Jet turned data Ryanair the ones that are bad for that maybe that's right now than they did that in my mind they merged [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/430">TS</a>]
00:07:16 ◼ ► Yeah got that down so I can Iraq where you see Jet did that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/436">TS</a>]
00:07:20 ◼ ► when I was finally maybe to I think that you study that I think I don't you know I always try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/440">TS</a>]
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00:07:29 ◼ ► Yeah something else that has made me very happy is the continuing growing strict finning. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/449">TS</a>]
00:07:36 ◼ ► Campaign to save the campaign the more it's just it's over the free voting is just the word now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/456">TS</a>]
00:07:42 ◼ ► and I had another major victory this wake little series of articles that came out in various sources most of which were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/462">TS</a>]
00:07:50 ◼ ► the result of interviews with agood might destine few other people there was one in slight I think I've got it here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/470">TS</a>]
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00:08:11 ◼ ► Thinking that Colin up and get a quote from him I didn't know I was going to turn into that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/491">TS</a>]
00:08:15 ◼ ► Destin Sandland road show where the. Basically made him a superstar. Embedded all these videos. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/495">TS</a>]
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00:08:39 ◼ ► Exactly yeah that means occasionally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/519">TS</a>]
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00:09:27 ◼ ► Benefit than has the Quite I had long said I found the word copyright infringement. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/567">TS</a>]
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00:09:41 ◼ ► and thought the outward freebooting somehow felt right and had a computer online feel to it is that how you talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/581">TS</a>]
00:09:48 ◼ ► when you are doing interview I just you know you know audiobooks you could have a different voice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/588">TS</a>]
00:09:53 ◼ ► when you're in quite Is that how you narrowed an audiobook. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/593">TS</a>]
00:09:56 ◼ ► Maybe if it was you was a cord from your would have gone into nerd voice Oh good thank you thank you Your voice is very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/596">TS</a>]
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00:10:11 ◼ ► will be I have long since conceded victory to you. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/611">TS</a>]
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00:10:33 ◼ ► how we're going to mark that event what we today I'm thinking I'm thinking commemorative plates. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/633">TS</a>]
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00:10:59 ◼ ► What about boots What about authentic free parts and we team up with some cobbler some shoemaker somewhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/659">TS</a>]
00:11:05 ◼ ► and has authentic hello internet free boats might you want to give away boots for free I'm not going to give them away. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/665">TS</a>]
00:11:13 ◼ ► OK Our free boots they're not free. Yeah free very committed small press and made by a cobbler. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/673">TS</a>]
00:11:20 ◼ ► Not actually a small Right but you know what will happen and some of the rival couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/680">TS</a>]
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00:11:32 ◼ ► Destine for continuing to spread to her death. Well done for eighty M. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/692">TS</a>]
00:11:37 ◼ ► Well done Freddie for recommending they speak to Destine I'm sorry I'm the king make a great you are marching make you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/697">TS</a>]
00:11:44 ◼ ► care. I'm just annoying to he will become famous. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/704">TS</a>]
00:11:48 ◼ ► Right but and I know I know when to Destine right you anointed destine but he is the executor of this situation. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/708">TS</a>]
00:11:56 ◼ ► He's the one doing the he crossed the nettle that is fair to say what's a nettle I don't what you grasp [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/716">TS</a>]
00:12:03 ◼ ► when you you know you've heard the saying grasped the nettle havingness know. I can hear you sighing over there. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/723">TS</a>]
00:12:13 ◼ ► Grasp the nettle the meaning is to tackle a difficult problem boldly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/733">TS</a>]
00:12:18 ◼ ► and I think that's the way you used it I think oh it's because because he was confronted with an interview in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/738">TS</a>]
00:12:22 ◼ ► situation and he and he could have filed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/742">TS</a>]
00:12:25 ◼ ► but he did it well he liked indeed to be a well he spread the word he made into a big thing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/745">TS</a>]
00:12:30 ◼ ► He crossed the netto I'm not sure I would characterize doing an interview with a reporter as a difficult problem. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/750">TS</a>]
00:12:38 ◼ ► Destin does everything boldly So we've got that part of it down that's fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/758">TS</a>]
00:12:42 ◼ ► but you know Grade ten seconds ago you hadn't even heard of the saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/762">TS</a>]
00:12:45 ◼ ► and now you're accusing me of using it incorrectly. Oh I've got a page over here called phrases dot org dot U.K. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/765">TS</a>]
00:12:51 ◼ ► With a picture of little plant and it says to tackle a difficult problem building. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/771">TS</a>]
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00:12:59 ◼ ► and grasp the nettle derives from the property of the plant to inject toxins that into the skin of any person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/779">TS</a>]
00:13:06 ◼ ► or animal who brushes against its stiff hollow hairs if the plant is grasped firmly especially if it is done in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/786">TS</a>]
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00:13:30 ◼ ► Seriously this will these guys do they talk about compensation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/810">TS</a>]
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00:13:44 ◼ ► and I could Terry it's not going to get any better than they are right let's move out of the next thing we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/824">TS</a>]
00:13:50 ◼ ► Updates this is fast becoming asked favorite the podcast where we recount stories of what people do while listening to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/830">TS</a>]
00:14:00 ◼ ► hello internet. I think it's been quite a few in the bread I'm sure you've seen some. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/840">TS</a>]
00:14:04 ◼ ► Ahead of these nights and I think we've lost them. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/844">TS</a>]
00:14:06 ◼ ► Benno yet you actually make notes here is one that could have been boring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/846">TS</a>]
00:14:11 ◼ ► but was was polled from the fire was reading the same out this person is a final video colourist and T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/851">TS</a>]
00:14:19 ◼ ► Dailies operator ninety percent of my workday spent scrolling through hours of sound this footage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/859">TS</a>]
00:14:24 ◼ ► and making it look as beautiful as possible. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/864">TS</a>]
00:14:27 ◼ ► This comes from someone called See Ryan and that's what I do have a color correction could be slow data process [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/867">TS</a>]
00:14:32 ◼ ► and my mind tends to want to get distracted with app already a stimulus so I think you can guess what's coming. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/872">TS</a>]
00:14:39 ◼ ► Thankfully the getting fully that I have a fast collection of audiobooks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/879">TS</a>]
00:14:43 ◼ ► and podcast hang on vast collection of the pope costs to keep my mind occupied. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/883">TS</a>]
00:14:49 ◼ ► Here she says but hello internet is easily one of my favorites. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/889">TS</a>]
00:14:55 ◼ ► There's something very encouraging for lack of a better word about listening to an hour's long in-depth conversation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/895">TS</a>]
00:15:01 ◼ ► between two pals I don't know who's talking about there who are both somewhere like I definitely don't know who's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/901">TS</a>]
00:15:08 ◼ ► Yet so different they really keep my work moving along so that's a pretty that's a really good kind of pretty standard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/908">TS</a>]
00:15:15 ◼ ► a mile I would say that he is he is where the email gets pulled from the fire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/915">TS</a>]
00:15:20 ◼ ► and gets to a whole new level of interesting narrative this so now for a fun bit of trivia for you guys here is a list [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/920">TS</a>]
00:15:27 ◼ ► of some video productions that hell Internet has helped me color in the past year. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/927">TS</a>]
00:15:32 ◼ ► N.B.C.'s crisis say someone Fox's Empire season one feature films a good person. Long way to the top. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/932">TS</a>]
00:15:41 ◼ ► Dusty wing spirit by Adam Taurus final colors of shorts commercials white WAIT DON'T TELL ME. L. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/941">TS</a>]
00:15:47 ◼ ► Prof and the advanced technological regression of NESTA tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/947">TS</a>]
00:15:50 ◼ ► but so we have like a whole list here of things that have been colored with help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/950">TS</a>]
00:15:57 ◼ ► and I think we should be put on the I.M.D.B. Databases having contributed to these productions. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/957">TS</a>]
00:16:01 ◼ ► Oh yeah is that you think I think were unsung heroes I'm not asking for money just as to credit. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/961">TS</a>]
00:16:07 ◼ ► Oh OK Just just a credit in coloring a sister are that what you would want to have to be that data out I think just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/967">TS</a>]
00:16:14 ◼ ► have a our forces Empire brought to you by how their Internet. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/974">TS</a>]
00:16:19 ◼ ► Carb via brought to you by Bradley Heron luring is the status and grey Norty poise I see what you're doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/979">TS</a>]
00:16:27 ◼ ► and what your dear you're being nosey. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/987">TS</a>]
00:16:32 ◼ ► Oh you could then I want to come to that letter what else have I got here in the job department I love this is what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/992">TS</a>]
00:16:39 ◼ ► and this is going to also a segue nicely to our next place a follow up the how I read Ian Gray This is from John much I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/999">TS</a>]
00:16:46 ◼ ► love this into how the Internet in the latest episode you mentioned a listener right in saying our professional bass [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1006">TS</a>]
00:16:51 ◼ ► player I am also a professional bass player so it was kind of neat to hear that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1011">TS</a>]
00:16:57 ◼ ► but I also have another connection to a subject you were talking about in the episode. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1017">TS</a>]
00:17:00 ◼ ► Human Gray mentioned you're interested in ships [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1020">TS</a>]
00:17:02 ◼ ► and I've been checking out our Web site where you can view the position of ships. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1022">TS</a>]
00:17:05 ◼ ► I'm employed as a basis to on a cruise ship so next time you're browsing marine traffic look up my ship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1025">TS</a>]
00:17:12 ◼ ► and you can see the exact position of someone who was likely listening to an episode of hell internet while say oh yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1032">TS</a>]
00:17:19 ◼ ► John to handle by so on a boat has given me the name of the ship. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1039">TS</a>]
00:17:25 ◼ ► OK so I'm going to coal up a Web site now in the last episode we linked to the Web site I used to look at ships [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1045">TS</a>]
00:17:32 ◼ ► and I have since been told correctly by many many people are was using an inferior Web site for this purpose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1052">TS</a>]
00:17:39 ◼ ► and I had a guy what's what should I go to now the one that I'm locking at the moment is code. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1059">TS</a>]
00:17:45 ◼ ► Marine Traffic dot com This is a better one cycle of Marine Traffic dot com green traffic dot com And if at the top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1065">TS</a>]
00:17:53 ◼ ► coal at the top brought that you say if a search your suggestion vessels stroke port Yep so obviously that's put the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1073">TS</a>]
00:18:00 ◼ ► name in there which is what the site was is and some of the C.C. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1080">TS</a>]
00:18:08 ◼ ► That's fine at where Joan is right now at them of the Seas. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1088">TS</a>]
00:18:12 ◼ ► Anthem of the say so there it is like it's docked in Pomona hum it's a huge ship. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1092">TS</a>]
00:18:20 ◼ ► Look at a safe it is an enormous ship says that is just off the eastern coast of Spain not two thousand Flint C.S. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1100">TS</a>]
00:18:30 ◼ ► Has that they are even doom right in to precisely where it is docked at this very moment. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1110">TS</a>]
00:18:37 ◼ ► Oh yeah if you can see this enormous ship and exactly where in the port. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1117">TS</a>]
00:18:42 ◼ ► Oh wow yeah that's a very good test it basic It was a fantastic Web site. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1122">TS</a>]
00:18:47 ◼ ► And with this Web site you can create fleets of your favorite ships [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1127">TS</a>]
00:18:51 ◼ ► and follow them around so I might I might add that one to my Slate Oh I see add to fleet at to fellate flushed the flag [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1131">TS</a>]
00:18:58 ◼ ► of the Bahamas on us who does what cruise ship doesn't fly the flag of the Bahamas it's not always about how misses a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1138">TS</a>]
00:19:04 ◼ ► and it's almost always the Hamas we know what you're up to behave as such we talked about ships lost are the cargo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1144">TS</a>]
00:19:15 ◼ ► ships something like that I watch them going past either an ego at my window at the moment that a look that would be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1155">TS</a>]
00:19:22 ◼ ► nice know that I needed to look at the wind I never to have this Web site on the never look at my window again. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1162">TS</a>]
00:19:27 ◼ ► That's exactly right this website can entirely replace the view out your window just don't don't even look up from your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1167">TS</a>]
00:19:33 ◼ ► monitor just open up the Web site [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1173">TS</a>]
00:19:36 ◼ ► and then you will then you'll be able to see all the ships that are passing by outside. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1176">TS</a>]
00:19:40 ◼ ► Excellent last time we were discussing a friend of yours who rather than fly on an airplane. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1180">TS</a>]
00:19:46 ◼ ► Took cargo ships across the ocean out of some environmental consciousness that are the same. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1186">TS</a>]
00:19:55 ◼ ► and I started to have a little bit of a rant about how this stuff drives me crazy because of how terrible cargo ships [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1195">TS</a>]
00:20:05 ◼ ► are in terms of carbon dioxide emissions. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1205">TS</a>]
00:20:08 ◼ ► Yeah and and just if I didn't give that to you by the why I did say I was and show you a rot. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1208">TS</a>]
00:20:13 ◼ ► Oh yeah yeah student think you're right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1213">TS</a>]
00:20:15 ◼ ► Yeah well this is this is when the think there was a big discussion on our sub Reddit about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1215">TS</a>]
00:20:24 ◼ ► and forth about various things I spent I spent a good a good while today trying to pull up some actual numbers on like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1224">TS</a>]
00:20:33 ◼ ► Dot dot gov pulling up I have in front of me this this ridiculous this ridiculous cycle seventy one page document from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1233">TS</a>]
00:20:45 ◼ ► About the carbon dioxide emissions of everything as a O'Boyle surely this will this will help me no it doesn't help me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1245">TS</a>]
00:20:51 ◼ ► have been the theory can file and looking for every chart is either not detailed enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1251">TS</a>]
00:20:56 ◼ ► or too detailed to be completely unhelpful is just it's it was very frustrating because I was I was just trying to find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1256">TS</a>]
00:21:02 ◼ ► an answer to this question about the relative pollution of of these various things. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1262">TS</a>]
00:21:06 ◼ ► and so here's what people were discussing in the Reddit which is which is as clear as it gets that if you are measuring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1266">TS</a>]
00:21:14 ◼ ► carbon dioxide emission per distance. Ton of cargo ships. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1274">TS</a>]
00:21:23 ◼ ► Gigantic cargo ships are very efficient [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1283">TS</a>]
00:21:27 ◼ ► and aircraft are very not efficient otherwise I'd ship cars all around the world in flames with my Exactly it like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1287">TS</a>]
00:21:36 ◼ ► was this was never really the the question. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1296">TS</a>]
00:21:41 ◼ ► Well of course if you're going to have to ship a whole bunch of cargo around. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1301">TS</a>]
00:21:45 ◼ ► You probably don't want to be shipping very heavy things in aircraft even dinner. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1305">TS</a>]
00:21:50 ◼ ► Carbon dioxide emissions a side is not going to make any economic sense. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1310">TS</a>]
00:21:56 ◼ ► and so most of the arguments that I saw from people were based upon these numbers talking about tonnage of raw materials [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1316">TS</a>]
00:22:02 ◼ ► moving back and forth but my my argument is that people are not the same thing as boxes of steel that you that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1322">TS</a>]
00:22:11 ◼ ► and it's unusual for you to make that argument. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1331">TS</a>]
00:22:14 ◼ ► Well I was just a passing thought I was about to say they're not books of stereo yet if I get to that actually later so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1334">TS</a>]
00:22:28 ◼ ► people say oh we everyone should be using cargo ships due to travel across the oceans. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1348">TS</a>]
00:22:33 ◼ ► Yeah but if you're going to do that then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1353">TS</a>]
00:22:35 ◼ ► and this is a massive infrastructure change because I was also looking up the travel times it seems like the fastest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1355">TS</a>]
00:22:42 ◼ ► just about any cargo ship can cross the Atlantic if they're going full steam is five days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1362">TS</a>]
00:22:47 ◼ ► and it looks like the the majority of ships were taking ten or twenty days to get across the ocean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1367">TS</a>]
00:22:53 ◼ ► and I presume that that's a bit like when you're in a car that going at a lower speed is more fuel efficient [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1373">TS</a>]
00:22:59 ◼ ► but I don't think it's probably an actual speed limitation I think they're just they're going slower for fuel if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1379">TS</a>]
00:23:05 ◼ ► start talking about YOU WANT TO YOU want to move an enormous number of people across the ocean. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1385">TS</a>]
00:23:11 ◼ ► Well now you also have to provide those people with food. There has to be places for them to sleep. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1391">TS</a>]
00:23:17 ◼ ► There needs to be some minimal amount of entertainment unless you want this to be like a slave ship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1397">TS</a>]
00:23:22 ◼ ► and their hunches down in the hole rowing rowing that really carbon vision. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1402">TS</a>]
00:23:30 ◼ ► when people start arguing about everybody like people should take cargo ships this is the thing that drives me crazy is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1410">TS</a>]
00:23:35 ◼ ► like OK yes for your friend who is such an infant tests mill amount of the ship that is moving we can consider. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1415">TS</a>]
00:23:45 ◼ ► I'm to be cargo but there's no full there's no plane that's not flying because he's taking the ship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1425">TS</a>]
00:23:51 ◼ ► and if everybody were to take ships you know we have to do we'd have to make them more like cruise ships [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1431">TS</a>]
00:23:57 ◼ ► and the environmental numbers on the cruise ships are undeniably awful the current ships are a bit sort of most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1437">TS</a>]
00:24:06 ◼ ► and purposeless Oh yeah you know what I'm saying is that Connally's that it wouldn't work at SHAPE TO to stay near the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1446">TS</a>]
00:24:13 ◼ ► ground just like isn't about basic physics you know work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1453">TS</a>]
00:24:16 ◼ ► and all the sort of stuff if you if you have to lift something. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1456">TS</a>]
00:24:19 ◼ ► Thousands and thousands of faith into the air I was a consistent friction and once you do that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1459">TS</a>]
00:24:25 ◼ ► My frustration with is that the only consideration is not the amount of carbon dioxide being released into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1465">TS</a>]
00:24:32 ◼ ► atmosphere there are if if you this is your concern if you're if you are a person who is saying oh I'm really concerned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1472">TS</a>]
00:24:39 ◼ ► about the amount of carbon dioxide being released is the atmosphere that OK great. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1479">TS</a>]
00:24:42 ◼ ► I do have a pie chart for you which talks about global C O two gas emissions by source the entire transportation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1482">TS</a>]
00:24:51 ◼ ► industry which includes all of the cargo ships. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1491">TS</a>]
00:24:53 ◼ ► He's thirteen percent of the global C O two emissions right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1493">TS</a>]
00:24:58 ◼ ► and then I was look this is the thing I was trying to break down further [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1498">TS</a>]
00:25:02 ◼ ► but more than half of that thirteen percent is from automobiles so you're talking at most if that if the entire rest of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1502">TS</a>]
00:25:15 ◼ ► that wedge is nothing but cargo ship at most it's like six percent that's the ceiling for cargo ships in the water [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1515">TS</a>]
00:25:26 ◼ ► and this is this is this is the it's like people focus on things that they can see that are obvious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1526">TS</a>]
00:25:33 ◼ ► Things that they can't see well they also focus on things they can do this is that this is the I jot argument isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1533">TS</a>]
00:25:40 ◼ ► about you know should I recycle I'm just one human out of all these billions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1540">TS</a>]
00:25:43 ◼ ► and may recycling snow going to make a difference to anything so I'm not going to bother recycling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1543">TS</a>]
00:25:48 ◼ ► and if everyone does that then nothing gets recycled. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1548">TS</a>]
00:25:52 ◼ ► You've got you can only do what you can do you can only choose to go on a plane [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1552">TS</a>]
00:25:56 ◼ ► or a boat because that's a lot of the power over you can I can only decide my actions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1556">TS</a>]
00:26:02 ◼ ► and I can't buy set just oh no I'm just such a small part of the patch otherwise no one does anything. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1562">TS</a>]
00:26:07 ◼ ► If C O two is a problem you would tack it from the biggest problem. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1567">TS</a>]
00:26:11 ◼ ► Downward the effect is much much better spend if you are looking at energy supply which is twenty six percent of C O [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1571">TS</a>]
00:26:17 ◼ ► two emissions that's where more than a quarter of C O two comes from and then industrial uses is twenty percent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1577">TS</a>]
00:26:24 ◼ ► and then agriculture is fourteen percent the these are the places where it can actually have an effect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1584">TS</a>]
00:26:31 ◼ ► but great I think small grassroots campaign sometimes late to those big things I know this is bit of a long bow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1591">TS</a>]
00:26:37 ◼ ► and I don't know enough necessarily what's going to happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1597">TS</a>]
00:26:39 ◼ ► but if everyone in the way out suddenly said You know I'm not going on planes anymore I'm going on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1599">TS</a>]
00:26:43 ◼ ► but it's because I think it's better for the environment all the politicians a stop sign. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1603">TS</a>]
00:26:48 ◼ ► Lottie Hello the people of the way would really care about Cousin dark sort of a sudden maybe we should introduce more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1608">TS</a>]
00:26:54 ◼ ► and more policies to do with this because they'll keep voting for us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1614">TS</a>]
00:26:57 ◼ ► and then the start doing things to do with those bigger issues like power an agriculture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1617">TS</a>]
00:27:01 ◼ ► and so I think saying let's not do something small because we need to attack the big problem first isn't necessarily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1621">TS</a>]
00:27:08 ◼ ► true. Sometimes these little minor skirmishes can snowball into bigger things. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1628">TS</a>]
00:27:13 ◼ ► The thing with that is what is your chance of having an effective small scale things snowball into a larger thing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1633">TS</a>]
00:27:22 ◼ ► This is the same argument of is is your action does it have any potential to be effective [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1642">TS</a>]
00:27:29 ◼ ► and my answer of of taking a cargo ship instead of a flight is now you have a zero percent chance of having any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1649">TS</a>]
00:27:35 ◼ ► significant impact on the global transportation C O two emissions in this year the president of the United States [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1655">TS</a>]
00:27:42 ◼ ► that's pretty much the case for every single action every single human on Earth takes no one person can do anything on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1662">TS</a>]
00:27:51 ◼ ► and if every single individual says that the nothing gets done though by anyone because we're all pointless you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1671">TS</a>]
00:27:58 ◼ ► organize into effective groups what I get frustrated by is a certain kind of behavior that I see where people want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1678">TS</a>]
00:28:07 ◼ ► demonstrate to others their values like I feel like this is this is a kind of human signalling behavior where you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1687">TS</a>]
00:28:19 ◼ ► but almost completely ineffectual action that demonstrates to others what kind of person you are this is a this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1699">TS</a>]
00:28:27 ◼ ► seductive thing to do because you get positive reinforcement from your peers Oh look at you you care about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1707">TS</a>]
00:28:35 ◼ ► environment what a good person you are you get that positive reinforcement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1715">TS</a>]
00:28:40 ◼ ► and then what I think is worse is that you feel like you've done something but you have affectively done nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1720">TS</a>]
00:28:46 ◼ ► or you have actually helped nobody you haven't started a campaign you haven't prevented a single airplane from not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1726">TS</a>]
00:28:55 ◼ ► flying once you know nothing nothing has occurred I don't know I think a lot of online activities can sometimes be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1735">TS</a>]
00:29:01 ◼ ► this where people just want to signal what side they're on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1741">TS</a>]
00:29:06 ◼ ► and what great people they are in a way that causes no effective change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1746">TS</a>]
00:29:12 ◼ ► and I think that's worse than doing nothing because you end up feeling like you have done something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1752">TS</a>]
00:29:17 ◼ ► and you've accomplished nothing at all I think that mental state is worse like a. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1757">TS</a>]
00:29:23 ◼ ► What do you think it over there well if it makes you feel better about yourself that can be good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1763">TS</a>]
00:29:30 ◼ ► but yeah that is a whole different thing though that's not what people think they're doing all right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1770">TS</a>]
00:29:35 ◼ ► Well I carry your friend doesn't take that cargo ship because he thinks you know what I will be completely human factor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1775">TS</a>]
00:29:41 ◼ ► but I'll feel better about myself if he was that honest with his motives then I've been like you know what dude that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1781">TS</a>]
00:29:46 ◼ ► awesome you go ahead and take that cargo ship you know everything starts with a small step. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1786">TS</a>]
00:29:51 ◼ ► If everyone had your attitudes and they wouldn't pick up their rubbish as I dropped a piece of paper on the ground. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1791">TS</a>]
00:29:56 ◼ ► I'd say well I'm not going to pick that up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1796">TS</a>]
00:29:57 ◼ ► and put it in a big sis just one paisa rubbish one piece of paper on the grounds not going to make the whole world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1797">TS</a>]
00:30:02 ◼ ► messy So what does my one piece of paper matter so everyone doing something doesn't count. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1802">TS</a>]
00:30:10 ◼ ► and the point where the point you make has some strength is if all these people doing these little meaningless actions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1810">TS</a>]
00:30:17 ◼ ► don't do other actions as a result of it because I think I've done that bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1817">TS</a>]
00:30:21 ◼ ► and then they don't do the things that to mete I guess the question I have here is if I care about. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1821">TS</a>]
00:30:27 ◼ ► Cap'n dockside emissions really strongly what do you suggest I do. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1827">TS</a>]
00:30:32 ◼ ► As just Jerry citizen you have to seriously think about how much you actually care about this topic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1832">TS</a>]
00:30:41 ◼ ► and then if you are going to genuinely trying to move toward a solution [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1841">TS</a>]
00:30:47 ◼ ► and for a problem that's on the scale of something like C O two emissions in the world that means you're going to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1847">TS</a>]
00:30:55 ◼ ► to join an organization which is working toward your goals because you have no ability as a human to affect this as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1855">TS</a>]
00:31:03 ◼ ► single person that's just the out of the gate assumption nothing you do will affect this on a significant level. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1863">TS</a>]
00:31:12 ◼ ► Let's say you take everything you own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1872">TS</a>]
00:31:13 ◼ ► and you set it on fire because you hate the environment Well guess what your SEO to emissions don't matter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1873">TS</a>]
00:31:18 ◼ ► and let's say you love the environment that you do the best thing you could possibly do for Mother Earth which is to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1878">TS</a>]
00:31:25 ◼ ► kill yourself and to not use up any more resources ever again. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1885">TS</a>]
00:31:29 ◼ ► Either one of those two extremes you have affected nothing as a human it doesn't matter if you kill the record [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1889">TS</a>]
00:31:35 ◼ ► when advocating that course of action. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1895">TS</a>]
00:31:37 ◼ ► Well yes but that that is always the reductio ad absurdum of a lot of these arguments of ours you should use less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1897">TS</a>]
00:31:45 ◼ ► and less as I well yeah the ultimate way that you can help mother if it is to be to not partake in her resources [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1905">TS</a>]
00:31:53 ◼ ► Shuffle off that mortal coil Yeah right by them so my point is at the at the extreme ends uses it as an individual have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1913">TS</a>]
00:32:00 ◼ ► no effect so the real question is do you care enough about this topic to actually give up. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1920">TS</a>]
00:32:06 ◼ ► Non-trivial amounts of your time in your effort to join forces with other people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1926">TS</a>]
00:32:11 ◼ ► and create a group that has the potential of affecting the actual outcome give them your money giving them money is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1931">TS</a>]
00:32:19 ◼ ► but I think if you are not crossing that boundary you just want to think you're the kind of person who cares about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1939">TS</a>]
00:32:26 ◼ ► without actually having to to pay a lot of cost in terms of time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1946">TS</a>]
00:32:31 ◼ ► or in terms of money so that's that's my perspective on it if you're not joining together with the group you're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1951">TS</a>]
00:32:38 ◼ ► you know you just feeling good about yourself you're just feeling good about yourself. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1958">TS</a>]
00:32:42 ◼ ► Alright you've told them they go crazy. Oh you people wandering around the house turning off a lot for you go to bed. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1962">TS</a>]
00:32:48 ◼ ► You've been tout don't bother to Father this week's episode of hello internet is brought to you by a glue igloo is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1968">TS</a>]
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00:33:06 ◼ ► and manage projects all in one place and igloo the latest upgrade a Viking revolves around documents [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1986">TS</a>]
00:33:12 ◼ ► and how you interact with them. Gather feedback and make changes. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1992">TS</a>]
00:33:17 ◼ ► They've even added the ability to track who has read critical information and to keep everyone on the same page. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/1997">TS</a>]
00:33:23 ◼ ► Most internets aren't terrible I have worked with terrible internets at school. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2003">TS</a>]
00:33:29 ◼ ► And igloo is a refreshing alternative if you're listening to the sound of my voice right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2009">TS</a>]
00:33:34 ◼ ► and you work at a company that has a terrible Internet here is a place where you can try to effect change. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2014">TS</a>]
00:33:42 ◼ ► Go tell your i T. Guy about giving a glue a try. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2022">TS</a>]
00:33:47 ◼ ► There's nothing to lose because you can get a free trial at igloo Software dot com slash hello [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2027">TS</a>]
00:33:53 ◼ ► and if your the ID guy at your company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2033">TS</a>]
00:33:56 ◼ ► and you hate dealing with your Internet just as much as everybody else does you directly as an individual have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2036">TS</a>]
00:34:03 ◼ ► power to make this change to make everybody's internetting at your company a more pleasant experience so if your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2043">TS</a>]
00:34:10 ◼ ► company has a legacy Internet that looked like it was built in the one nine hundred ninety S. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2050">TS</a>]
00:34:15 ◼ ► Which it probably was you should give a glue a try once again go to a glue Software dot com slash hello to begin your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2055">TS</a>]
00:34:25 ◼ ► free trial of better internetting thank you to glue for supporting the show what's going on it rather this is a bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2065">TS</a>]
00:34:34 ◼ ► time for us to be recording stuff because this just happened last night [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2074">TS</a>]
00:34:39 ◼ ► but so we don't actually have the full real story but the C.E.O. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2079">TS</a>]
00:34:44 ◼ ► Of red it has stepped down as of Friday night which is of course the best time if you ever want to bury some news to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2084">TS</a>]
00:34:51 ◼ ► have anything happen which is late on a Friday. Isn't that right Mr news man. Yeah I guess yeah yeah. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2091">TS</a>]
00:34:57 ◼ ► Stuff disappears over the weekend. Yeah worst time to do something bad. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2097">TS</a>]
00:35:01 ◼ ► Monday morning putting out the trash that all the journalists want to go high. Exactly. So she has stepped down. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2101">TS</a>]
00:35:10 ◼ ► This is Ellen how do you say how last time I presume with Powell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2110">TS</a>]
00:35:13 ◼ ► but I've never heard it out loud so Adam a brother I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2113">TS</a>]
00:35:17 ◼ ► but she stepped down the change dot org petition that we mentioned last time. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2117">TS</a>]
00:35:22 ◼ ► Reached two hundred intend something thousand names asking for her to step down and so an entire. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2122">TS</a>]
00:35:32 ◼ ► and the board decided it was time for them to part ways not because the public pressure at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2132">TS</a>]
00:35:36 ◼ ► but because of unrelated reason and so she is gone now. Well you say what do you think about this guy. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2136">TS</a>]
00:35:43 ◼ ► Broadly speaking I would say that is welcome news is the way that I would describe it because she from my perspective [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2143">TS</a>]
00:35:52 ◼ ► was not doing a good job in her role as as C.E.O. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2152">TS</a>]
00:35:56 ◼ ► I mean I read it is an unusual company for very many reasons they are in a an unusually difficult situation of how to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2156">TS</a>]
00:36:04 ◼ ► manage this website when it is huge so it is not any the job for anybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2164">TS</a>]
00:36:10 ◼ ► but I think she was doing a bad job of it now I am more cautious than people might be expecting at this moment. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2170">TS</a>]
00:36:19 ◼ ► Partly because again this is just happened very recently from our perspective so I don't have a lot of information I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2179">TS</a>]
00:36:24 ◼ ► was trying to read as much as I could this morning but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2184">TS</a>]
00:36:27 ◼ ► but here's the thing she has a line in her resignation which I think is quite telling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2187">TS</a>]
00:36:32 ◼ ► and worth focusing on in her resignation letter and read it she says quote so why am I leaving. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2192">TS</a>]
00:36:39 ◼ ► Ultimately the board asked me to demonstrate higher user growth in the next six months then I believe I can deliver [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2199">TS</a>]
00:36:47 ◼ ► and quote I think a good way to always try to view the actions of other people is to give them the benefit of the doubt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2207">TS</a>]
00:36:57 ◼ ► and assume that in their situation with the knowledge that they have they are trying to make the most rational [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2217">TS</a>]
00:37:06 ◼ ► decisions that they can that they are acting in their own self-interest and so while I did not like her as a C.E.O. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2226">TS</a>]
00:37:15 ◼ ► I still try to think that well she's there's reasons for her actions she is under certain constraints [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2235">TS</a>]
00:37:25 ◼ ► and she is trying to act in a rational way around those constraints from from from her own self interest right I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2245">TS</a>]
00:37:32 ◼ ► I'm not saying rational in a benevolent way just rational like oh I'm a person of what am I going to do in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2252">TS</a>]
00:37:40 ◼ ► This is a little bit of a window into that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2260">TS</a>]
00:37:42 ◼ ► and just like with all companies it's sort of easy to forget because the C.E.O.'s are are so on center stage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2262">TS</a>]
00:37:50 ◼ ► but C.E.O.'s are not the final word in their companies that that's a that's a real like a as Steve Jobs situation where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2270">TS</a>]
00:37:59 ◼ ► he was in control of the whole board of his company is not the not the norm that is an exception. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2279">TS</a>]
00:38:06 ◼ ► Yeah and so C.E.O.'s are the employees of the board. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2286">TS</a>]
00:38:10 ◼ ► Yeah and so the next person who's coming on which is Steve Oh I forgot his last name. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2290">TS</a>]
00:38:18 ◼ ► Steve Huffman I think funding is one of the around us yet he was one of the co-founders of Reddit he's coming on board [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2298">TS</a>]
00:38:27 ◼ ► Now he is going to be put in the same situation that Ellen pow wows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2307">TS</a>]
00:38:35 ◼ ► and if he doesn't have a controlling interest in the stock he is ultimately responsible to the board as well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2315">TS</a>]
00:38:43 ◼ ► and so that's why I say it is welcome news that Ellen POW is gone because I think that even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2323">TS</a>]
00:38:50 ◼ ► when she was acting in her own self interest she was just doing a terrible job as C.E.O. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2330">TS</a>]
00:38:56 ◼ ► But there were still constraints that she was trying to meet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2336">TS</a>]
00:38:59 ◼ ► and Steve Huffman is going to be in the same position now maybe he can be very charming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2339">TS</a>]
00:39:06 ◼ ► and convince the board that his way is the right way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2346">TS</a>]
00:39:08 ◼ ► and he'll almost certainly be better at knowing how to deftly execute change than Ellen powers who seem to have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2348">TS</a>]
00:39:17 ◼ ► particular to a new year for the Internet it's welcome news [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2357">TS</a>]
00:39:21 ◼ ► but I'm not throwing a ticker tape parade for the next C.E.O. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2361">TS</a>]
00:39:25 ◼ ► Because I don't think that all of the problems of the things that I disagree with about Reddit reside with the C.E.O. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2365">TS</a>]
00:39:32 ◼ ► and I think it's a structural issue like the company it has the boards there are you know there are higher powers that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2372">TS</a>]
00:39:38 ◼ ► want read it to be profitable in the way the traditional companies are so I am cautiously optimistic about the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2378">TS</a>]
00:39:47 ◼ ► situation but not some people are just throwing a big party like the Wicked Witch of the West has been killed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2387">TS</a>]
00:39:54 ◼ ► and now all of Oz will be magical again I don't think that that's that's a good assessment of where we are what are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2394">TS</a>]
00:40:05 ◼ ► Well I don't have the same affection for read it to heat a lot Gretta I use it every day I get a lot of value from A [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2405">TS</a>]
00:40:15 ◼ ► and I think that a lot of interesting people on a entertainment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2415">TS</a>]
00:40:20 ◼ ► but I was I think there are a lot of people on the worry me I think read it has a wiring streak through it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2420">TS</a>]
00:40:29 ◼ ► Of May nests and if read it was a person on the show I would be friends with it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2429">TS</a>]
00:40:36 ◼ ► Well as you read I read it would be a crazy person because of the it's a conglomeration of so many people. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2436">TS</a>]
00:40:43 ◼ ► Yeah yeah yeah of course the size everything so is Twitter and sorry Facebook and says everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2443">TS</a>]
00:40:47 ◼ ► but I don't use that I don't get that same feeling from those Web sites that I get from read it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2447">TS</a>]
00:40:52 ◼ ► but the other thing is I think this was a lynch mob and I don't know much about this woman you say she was a bad seed. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2452">TS</a>]
00:41:02 ◼ ► You obviously have some insights into the red at management that I have because I don't know whether it was her that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2462">TS</a>]
00:41:07 ◼ ► was managing badly it was other things going on I'll take the word for of people who say say I'm not a new into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2467">TS</a>]
00:41:15 ◼ ► criticising companies as a hoe and was even management teams as to how I don't always like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2475">TS</a>]
00:41:22 ◼ ► when individuals get criticized publicly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2482">TS</a>]
00:41:25 ◼ ► and I feel like this woman has been publicly lynched by over two hundred thousand people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2485">TS</a>]
00:41:30 ◼ ► and maybe she didn't deserve her job maybe she maybe it was right for her to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2490">TS</a>]
00:41:36 ◼ ► but the way in which she's gone makes me feel uncomfortable. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2496">TS</a>]
00:41:40 ◼ ► Are too uncomfortable two hundred thousand people from a Web site that read it can just suddenly stop or Titian [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2500">TS</a>]
00:41:45 ◼ ► and say we don't like this person and within a few days they go on this she was not a democratically elected later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2505">TS</a>]
00:41:51 ◼ ► and I feel like she's been publicly lynched and maybe she's the worst C.E.O. In the history of C.S. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2511">TS</a>]
00:41:57 ◼ ► and Maybe this is the best thing that's ever happened to read it the why the way it is unfolded from someone who has no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2517">TS</a>]
00:42:04 ◼ ► knowledge of what's going on and is watched as a spectator. Makes me feel bad. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2524">TS</a>]
00:42:09 ◼ ► I doesn't make me feels like I don't know how to our woods are so sorry for her I don't know enough about her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2529">TS</a>]
00:42:14 ◼ ► but I just started like this publicly inching I think I think there's a lot of vigilanteism going on on the Internet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2534">TS</a>]
00:42:22 ◼ ► and this is what if it was a bit there's a lot in what you're saying the thing that's different about Reddit is that a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2542">TS</a>]
00:42:29 ◼ ► couple things first month when I say my evaluation of L. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2549">TS</a>]
00:42:34 ◼ ► and POW it's coming entirely from the thing that she has written like the announcements that she has posted under her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2554">TS</a>]
00:42:42 ◼ ► name on the website. Fair enough and I don't know how she acted. Inside the company. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2562">TS</a>]
00:42:46 ◼ ► Yeah I can just know how she acted on Reddit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2566">TS</a>]
00:42:50 ◼ ► and I would say she was a terrible Reddit User she interacted with the community very poorly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2570">TS</a>]
00:42:57 ◼ ► and so that's what that's how I am a valuating her because because this is again this is why I read it is so weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2577">TS</a>]
00:43:05 ◼ ► but cry you don't have to be a good car driver to run General Motors you are right your General Motors analogy is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2585">TS</a>]
00:43:11 ◼ ► perfect I was trying to think of some other C.E.O.'s [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2591">TS</a>]
00:43:14 ◼ ► and their like ability scores we can you Steve Jobs is a historical example of him being very divisive I think a better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2594">TS</a>]
00:43:21 ◼ ► modern example that came into my head is I don't know his name but the guy who's the C.E.O. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2601">TS</a>]
00:43:25 ◼ ► Of her right now if think it is broadly fair to say that the C.E.O. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2605">TS</a>]
00:43:32 ◼ ► Of birth is an abrasive person and that there are lots of people who do not like the C.E.O. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2612">TS</a>]
00:43:40 ◼ ► Of Hoover for various reasons. Yeah but his situation is different be. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2620">TS</a>]
00:43:45 ◼ ► Because his company can say Well who gives a crap if people like the C.E.O. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2625">TS</a>]
00:43:51 ◼ ► or Is he good at running for that's the only relevant question there if I'd like I'm on the board of her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2631">TS</a>]
00:43:59 ◼ ► and I look at the the amazing growth it would burn his had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2639">TS</a>]
00:44:02 ◼ ► and I look at his his personality my response is what I don't care if he's the meanest jerk in the world from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2642">TS</a>]
00:44:08 ◼ ► perspective of a company whose company is doing amazing it's like so keep this guy on board even if he makes ridiculous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2648">TS</a>]
00:44:14 ◼ ► public statements that are terrible. Making money will silence your critics very quickly. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2654">TS</a>]
00:44:19 ◼ ► Exactly but the problem with Read it is that read it is not manufacturing anything. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2659">TS</a>]
00:44:26 ◼ ► Red It's not selling i Phones that people buy red it's not providing services the whole thing that read it has is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2666">TS</a>]
00:44:34 ◼ ► audience of people who are there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2674">TS</a>]
00:44:37 ◼ ► and you can say to a large extent the people are there as a result of the efforts of all of the volunteers we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2677">TS</a>]
00:44:45 ◼ ► talking about last time the moderators the people who run the various communities [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2685">TS</a>]
00:44:50 ◼ ► and even in my own small way like I am the moderator on the siege be gray sub read it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2690">TS</a>]
00:44:55 ◼ ► and so I'm like I'm directing people to that sub read it to have conversations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2695">TS</a>]
00:45:00 ◼ ► and I interact with the people there you know this in my own small way I'm bringing a little bit of an audience to read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2700">TS</a>]
00:45:06 ◼ ► it and then you multiply that across the thousands and thousands of sub RADDATZ And that's what the audience is. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2706">TS</a>]
00:45:12 ◼ ► Yeah so since since for it doesn't sell anything a big part of the C.E.O.'s job is keep the moderators happy so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2712">TS</a>]
00:45:22 ◼ ► audience stays here. And that's why if read it has a C.E.O. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2722">TS</a>]
00:45:29 ◼ ► That is extremely divisive and to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2729">TS</a>]
00:45:31 ◼ ► and that the community doesn't like this is a problem in the way that it is not a problem for oh most any other company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2731">TS</a>]
00:45:40 ◼ ► it Perry says it's a business travel of a Sufi Yes it is a business threat if I'm a board member [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2740">TS</a>]
00:45:45 ◼ ► and I say if people don't like the C.E.O. Of this company it is a it is a problem. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2745">TS</a>]
00:45:51 ◼ ► One last thing on the popularity issue is that I think it is very interesting that the board appointed Steve Huffman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2751">TS</a>]
00:46:01 ◼ ► verses there are other obvious choice which is a guy called Alexis Ohanian I never know how to pronounce his last name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2761">TS</a>]
00:46:09 ◼ ► but Steve and Alexis these guys were the co-founders of read it it's really interesting that I've found read it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2769">TS</a>]
00:46:17 ◼ ► when it was first announced on Paul Graham's blog talking about these two guys a put together this discussion website [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2777">TS</a>]
00:46:24 ◼ ► why don't you go take a look like way back in the day and Steve adds in at some point. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2784">TS</a>]
00:46:33 ◼ ► Stephen Alexis both all their shares in the company and they went off to do other things. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2793">TS</a>]
00:46:37 ◼ ► Steve founded a company which is now called Hipmunk which is the travel search website was very good I really like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2797">TS</a>]
00:46:44 ◼ ► and Alexis eventually came back to read it and Alexis has been at Reddit for I don't know the past two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2804">TS</a>]
00:46:51 ◼ ► or three years I'm not sure exactly on those numbers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2811">TS</a>]
00:46:54 ◼ ► but the interesting thing is that if you were the board you feel like Oh Alexis is the obvious choice he's well known [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2814">TS</a>]
00:47:02 ◼ ► by the community and he's been working at rather why don't we appoint him is the C.E.O. He's one of the co-founders. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2822">TS</a>]
00:47:09 ◼ ► But I think the board knew that Alexis has also burned a lot of his credit with the community because he was putting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2829">TS</a>]
00:47:20 ◼ ► his name on a lot of the same announcements that were causing controversy at Reddit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2840">TS</a>]
00:47:26 ◼ ► and he also had a remarkable ten year when there were problems going on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2846">TS</a>]
00:47:32 ◼ ► and I'm everyone keeps posting it all the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2852">TS</a>]
00:47:33 ◼ ► but people were asking him you know what what are you one of the highest level people are ready going to do to fix the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2853">TS</a>]
00:47:39 ◼ ► situation and he was making jokey comments that were saying oh boy I'm just going to take out some popcorn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2859">TS</a>]
00:47:45 ◼ ► and you didn't watch all this drama. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2865">TS</a>]
00:47:47 ◼ ► Slink dude jokes about popcorn are totally fine when you're a user [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2867">TS</a>]
00:47:51 ◼ ► but you you sound like you are Nero watching this whole thing burned like it's not funny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2871">TS</a>]
00:47:57 ◼ ► when you are one of the people who's supposed to be fixing this problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2877">TS</a>]
00:48:00 ◼ ► and so I just think that the board made this interesting choice of OK we want to try to have some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2880">TS</a>]
00:48:05 ◼ ► but someone who has history with this company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2885">TS</a>]
00:48:08 ◼ ► but we're not going to go with the guy who was the co-founder who's actually been here we're going to go with the guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2888">TS</a>]
00:48:14 ◼ ► who's the co-founder who left so I think they're trying to start with as as clean a slate as possible because I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2894">TS</a>]
00:48:21 ◼ ► that Alexis has been kind of sullied a little bit by having been at Reddit for the past two years so that's I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2901">TS</a>]
00:48:29 ◼ ► that's just interesting that they went was DB over a Lexus That's all I want to say about that he just might read a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2909">TS</a>]
00:48:35 ◼ ► sound like this kind of childish hive of babies that you Dan not pissed off because they're all this bunch of crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2915">TS</a>]
00:48:42 ◼ ► people that will just carry insane if you make one little moves that don't like it it just sounds unhealthy to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2922">TS</a>]
00:48:48 ◼ ► right it doesn't sound healthy I'm sorry it just sounds weird I just doesn't sound like any other business I know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2928">TS</a>]
00:48:54 ◼ ► would be so beholden to they say mobile I think part of the problem is just that people are complaining that things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2934">TS</a>]
00:49:02 ◼ ► haven't been going well I mean this is a small example the the Reddit app that I use which is called a. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2942">TS</a>]
00:49:09 ◼ ► Elian blew on the i Pad It used to be developed by this just single guy who made it on his own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2949">TS</a>]
00:49:15 ◼ ► and then read it purchased it I don't know maybe two years ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2955">TS</a>]
00:49:18 ◼ ► and since they bought it it basically hasn't been updated. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2958">TS</a>]
00:49:21 ◼ ► Ever and they fix none of the bugs and that's the kind of thing that just makes people angry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2961">TS</a>]
00:49:26 ◼ ► when they say OK look someone was just making this great thing and then you purchased it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2966">TS</a>]
00:49:30 ◼ ► and it seems like it has just died [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2970">TS</a>]
00:49:33 ◼ ► and the similar things with the tools for the moderators having just never been improved over long periods of time so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2973">TS</a>]
00:49:39 ◼ ► it's not like it's not like people are angry for no reason they're angry because the things that they used to run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2979">TS</a>]
00:49:48 ◼ ► and haven't been fixed two people complained about everything people complain about Apple products people complained [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2988">TS</a>]
00:49:53 ◼ ► that Windows is rubbish people are always complaining about everything that's big. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2993">TS</a>]
00:49:58 ◼ ► Oh yeah but red you don't see quite the same. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/2998">TS</a>]
00:50:02 ◼ ► Repercussions if well two hundred thousand people signed a petition saying that Tim Cook should guy because the apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3002">TS</a>]
00:50:10 ◼ ► which is a paper rubbish on a thing at other you think it would even be a ripple on the pond Apple. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3010">TS</a>]
00:50:16 ◼ ► Well again Apple is not in the same business as read it this is the problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3016">TS</a>]
00:50:19 ◼ ► and that the transition cost to going to a Reddit clone is very low if they make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3019">TS</a>]
00:50:26 ◼ ► and of people angry enough people move to another Web site. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3026">TS</a>]
00:50:29 ◼ ► Again we talked about this last time I think it is kicking the can down the road for problems. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3029">TS</a>]
00:50:33 ◼ ► Yeah but it doesn't change the fact that the reason that the C.E.O. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3033">TS</a>]
00:50:36 ◼ ► Of red it has to be responsive to the community is that it's a it's a fragile thing this episode hello internet has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3036">TS</a>]
00:50:45 ◼ ► been brought to you by Oracle dot com I'm really into a water bill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3045">TS</a>]
00:50:48 ◼ ► and I mean I've really gotten back into my audiobooks I'm doing a lot of running. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3048">TS</a>]
00:50:52 ◼ ► I'm also doing quite a lot along driving and I'm also really enjoying listening to audiobooks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3052">TS</a>]
00:50:57 ◼ ► when I'm sort of lying in bed for the last sort of thirty to forty minutes of my day if you haven't got into audiobooks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3057">TS</a>]
00:51:02 ◼ ► you really short an order is really the way to guard I've got the massive range they got a really good system they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3062">TS</a>]
00:51:08 ◼ ► got really good at for listening to them on your phone it's particularly driving at the moment where I'm enjoying the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3068">TS</a>]
00:51:13 ◼ ► books in fact just late it's not I know I've got about two hours on the road to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3073">TS</a>]
00:51:17 ◼ ► and pick someone up from the train station [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3077">TS</a>]
00:51:19 ◼ ► and the reason I'm looking forward to it is because I know that's two hours I'm just going to be able to relax. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3079">TS</a>]
00:51:25 ◼ ► Concentrate on the road of course but really just enjoy two hours of a book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3085">TS</a>]
00:51:29 ◼ ► and the book I'm enjoying at the moment is eleven twenty two sixty three by Stephen King I don't know if the tell you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3089">TS</a>]
00:51:36 ◼ ► cite to say eleven slash twenty to slash sixty three not quite sure what the right way to say it is because it refers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3096">TS</a>]
00:51:42 ◼ ► to the date and refers to the assassination of J.F.K. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3102">TS</a>]
00:51:45 ◼ ► It's a time traveling book I'm only a few chapters into it so I don't exactly know what's going to happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3105">TS</a>]
00:51:51 ◼ ► but I'm really really enjoying it I was actually telling gray just before the show that I'm enjoying it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3111">TS</a>]
00:51:56 ◼ ► and he was telling me that his dad has recommended it to him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3116">TS</a>]
00:52:01 ◼ ► and he may be catching its own as well so I don't know if I'm listening to it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3121">TS</a>]
00:52:06 ◼ ► or there's a chance it may come up at some stage on the pod cast I don't know I'm not really setting as homework [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3126">TS</a>]
00:52:12 ◼ ► but I am saying it's a book that I'm enjoying and may get discussed. And on down the track. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3132">TS</a>]
00:52:16 ◼ ► Anyway whatever your interview with her it's fiction or nonfiction. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3136">TS</a>]
00:52:20 ◼ ► Stay Vin King known Stephen King you will find on order both I've got this incredible selection [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3140">TS</a>]
00:52:26 ◼ ► and if you sign up you get your first book for free. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3146">TS</a>]
00:52:29 ◼ ► We'd recommend you do it by going to order food dot com slash hello internet. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3149">TS</a>]
00:52:34 ◼ ► Because if you do that you will get the free book signing on and though now you came from the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3154">TS</a>]
00:52:39 ◼ ► and that's really good for hello internet as well so that older voters are com slash hello internet. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3159">TS</a>]
00:52:47 ◼ ► and then you can buy as many as you want after that you get these credits every month so you can get a new book each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3167">TS</a>]
00:52:54 ◼ ► Audiobooks are really good value because well the last few hours days weeks lots of entertainment lots of bang via back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3174">TS</a>]
00:53:02 ◼ ► of also discussed for if you get a book and you don't like it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3182">TS</a>]
00:53:05 ◼ ► Such as maybe getting things done you can just tell them you get your money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3185">TS</a>]
00:53:10 ◼ ► or your credit back you can get another book instead. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3190">TS</a>]
00:53:12 ◼ ► They're really good really good system after things to order vote for supporting the pod cast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3192">TS</a>]
00:53:18 ◼ ► and if you do get a free book maybe eleven twenty two sixty three of the the want to see a bit time travel be a J F K. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3198">TS</a>]
00:53:24 ◼ ► Stephen King's legend can't go wrong. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3204">TS</a>]
00:53:28 ◼ ► Well that was relaxing So now you're moving on to something I actually am ready fired up about interest free will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3208">TS</a>]
00:53:40 ◼ ► when you talk about the nature of the commenters on Reddit versus the nature of everybody he you're complaining to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3220">TS</a>]
00:53:48 ◼ ► that you got piled on on the Read it for your view that free will exists [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3228">TS</a>]
00:53:53 ◼ ► and did not remember complaining to about that I don't actually completely think that's my position either like hosts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3233">TS</a>]
00:53:58 ◼ ► kind of just arguing with you and put so I just Anyway I have to know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3238">TS</a>]
00:54:03 ◼ ► when you're talking at me in the hell of it not because you actually think we're three before I start as well about a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3243">TS</a>]
00:54:09 ◼ ► papal how deny if you have no idea who I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3249">TS</a>]
00:54:13 ◼ ► and you just think on this cave man goes on a pod cast with your beloved C G P gray just like the Ten seconds go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3253">TS</a>]
00:54:22 ◼ ► and have a look at what I do for my job because I spent the last ten years pretty much exclusively interviewing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3262">TS</a>]
00:54:30 ◼ ► physicists and mathematicians and whose scientists unlike. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3270">TS</a>]
00:54:35 ◼ ► Like every day of my life is just consumed by science [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3275">TS</a>]
00:54:38 ◼ ► and I'm not like some guy who has never heard of quantum mechanics or over a lot of these physics principles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3278">TS</a>]
00:54:48 ◼ ► and I understand all the arguments and I'm a really big fan of science and I really love or so a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3288">TS</a>]
00:54:54 ◼ ► and doesn't mean that I'm right or wrong about stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3294">TS</a>]
00:54:57 ◼ ► but I just get I'm getting a few quite condescending messages about like not maybe that I don't know anything about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3297">TS</a>]
00:55:04 ◼ ► science and I don't know I don't have a science degree and I am quite ignorant about lots of things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3304">TS</a>]
00:55:09 ◼ ► but I'm not like some anti science. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3309">TS</a>]
00:55:11 ◼ ► Hippy who use like hitchhiking to San Francisco it because I want to go to a music festival. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3311">TS</a>]
00:55:17 ◼ ► I'm really can shamed by science guy who really loves all this stuff and I'm really familiar with the arguments [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3317">TS</a>]
00:55:22 ◼ ► and also saying Oh have you ever heard of Richard fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3322">TS</a>]
00:55:26 ◼ ► and like what we were saying was so obviously inspired by the famous Richard Fineman stuff about a flower that we just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3326">TS</a>]
00:55:34 ◼ ► didn't say it. Yeah like it's a bit silly it's a bit and it's become a part of the Converse A Yeah. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3334">TS</a>]
00:55:39 ◼ ► FLOCK like every time we talk about energy mass acquittal it's we don't have to mention that it was on Star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3339">TS</a>]
00:55:45 ◼ ► and he says he's cracked that not it's just that's like that's a known thing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3345">TS</a>]
00:55:50 ◼ ► So anyway so it's a little bit frustrating if anybody anywhere ever references freebooting Now I want you to mention [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3350">TS</a>]
00:55:54 ◼ ► Brady Aaron is the creator of that I hope the time comes where paper like where you don't have to mention Brady hair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3354">TS</a>]
00:55:59 ◼ ► and he's obviously the father of three they're eating right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3359">TS</a>]
00:56:01 ◼ ► and everyone will just know character that of if Also if you if you want to never hear a condescending comment again I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3361">TS</a>]
00:56:12 ◼ ► suggest you never go on the internet again. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3372">TS</a>]
00:56:16 ◼ ► Good for it I was I saw a like sides very minor criticisms of you saying that you were trying to like Palm awful this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3376">TS</a>]
00:56:24 ◼ ► famous philosopher as your own life because you didn't cite every single yeah. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3384">TS</a>]
00:56:29 ◼ ► Idea an argument that you made with like a reference and an attribution to that I thought to be a star. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3389">TS</a>]
00:56:34 ◼ ► He on that one to say obviously when you see when other of us took a drawing on just all the stuff we've read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3394">TS</a>]
00:56:40 ◼ ► and heard no other voices so amazing that we're coming up with a letter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3400">TS</a>]
00:56:43 ◼ ► and new ideas that the what an intellectual life is you read and you think and you accept [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3403">TS</a>]
00:56:49 ◼ ► and you reject what else can there be any way to this is sort of to get back on point then that I was really surprised [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3409">TS</a>]
00:56:55 ◼ ► that I don't know if you you would agree with this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3415">TS</a>]
00:56:58 ◼ ► but I got the general sense from the read a comment that most of the people in that discussion we're on my side would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3418">TS</a>]
00:57:04 ◼ ► you say that's a fair assessment. Yeah right I found that really surprising. No I didn't notice no. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3424">TS</a>]
00:57:10 ◼ ► I enjoy bring up free will as a topic of conversation with people and I am constantly surprised by. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3430">TS</a>]
00:57:19 ◼ ► How in real life so ho vastly fewer people agree with me that I expect you agree with me I feel like oh I have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3439">TS</a>]
00:57:28 ◼ ► obvious obviously correct opinion here. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3448">TS</a>]
00:57:31 ◼ ► Free will is just an illusion and almost any group setting even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3451">TS</a>]
00:57:34 ◼ ► when I am so confident that almost everyone around the table will agree with me. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3454">TS</a>]
00:57:38 ◼ ► Almost everybody doesn't so I was interested in the red to say like oh this is a different demographic because in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3458">TS</a>]
00:57:43 ◼ ► normal life I'm like a unlike a crazy person on the street with a sign like the end is near people yeah buddy whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3463">TS</a>]
00:57:51 ◼ ► how in the red it was it just seemed very reverse of my normal experience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3471">TS</a>]
00:57:56 ◼ ► when I have this conversation with people that say it's funny that you think are mice think like the position you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3476">TS</a>]
00:58:01 ◼ ► putting was almost the more cliched position these days. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3481">TS</a>]
00:58:04 ◼ ► A mug sort of science he's not I think that your position is almost cliche in its sort of everywhere oh where oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3484">TS</a>]
00:58:11 ◼ ► predestined and everything's you know already in position and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3491">TS</a>]
00:58:15 ◼ ► and the the machine just running running its course now it may be the people that you're interacting with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3495">TS</a>]
00:58:20 ◼ ► but my experience has been even with very science the people there is a I find there's a much smaller percentage of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3500">TS</a>]
00:58:27 ◼ ► people who take my stance than I expect there would be something that you think that was discussion was so much about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3507">TS</a>]
00:58:34 ◼ ► and that that was really just didn't stick with made a free will stuff report may an author I was more interested in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3514">TS</a>]
00:58:39 ◼ ► the stuff about beauty and knowledge and whether it's better to know stuff and not nice stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3519">TS</a>]
00:58:45 ◼ ► and the free will stuff was like oh I was really couldn't and then everyone thinks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3525">TS</a>]
00:58:50 ◼ ► and then I was reading people saying Brady your analogy has nothing at all to do with free will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3530">TS</a>]
00:58:54 ◼ ► and I'm not I was even talking about free will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3534">TS</a>]
00:58:56 ◼ ► and I was talking about single that thing they'll We had like three deep philosophical conversations in far too short a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3536">TS</a>]
00:59:02 ◼ ► period of time that we're not really related to each other I was really where is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3542">TS</a>]
00:59:06 ◼ ► when editing at a Lego revocable different cover these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3546">TS</a>]
00:59:08 ◼ ► and now I tell you what are the thing I come away from from the whole thing the how to cope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3548">TS</a>]
00:59:15 ◼ ► and I found the comment six or sing a foundry in the car I didn't read most of my found the whole thing exhausting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3555">TS</a>]
00:59:21 ◼ ► and this is the thing I've realized their own different personality types in the wild. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3561">TS</a>]
00:59:25 ◼ ► I've learned a certain personality type that has more. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3565">TS</a>]
00:59:30 ◼ ► Stringent requirements has more is more inflexible when it comes to the use of analogy. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3570">TS</a>]
00:59:41 ◼ ► Metaphors and things like that I really believe this and I believe you are very much in that category. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3581">TS</a>]
00:59:49 ◼ ► And there's a few other people a mile of her in that category and I think the people in a sub read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3589">TS</a>]
00:59:55 ◼ ► or a lot of them are also very much in that category and I'm not in that category and I'm not saying one is right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3595">TS</a>]
01:00:04 ◼ ► and one is wrong but we're definitely on very different pages when it comes to analogies. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3604">TS</a>]
01:00:11 ◼ ► and it drives me absolutely bonkers I sent you like I sent you a jokey I sent you a joke a little Katerina I made which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3611">TS</a>]
01:00:21 ◼ ► was of you and I and I know I was saying gee [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3621">TS</a>]
01:00:24 ◼ ► when the first people's land on my this is going to be a moment much like when humans first set foot on the moon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3624">TS</a>]
01:00:33 ◼ ► and then my Jakey C.D.P. Gray is replying the tell you are nothing alike. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3633">TS</a>]
01:00:38 ◼ ► Mars is a planet the Marin is a satellite of the earth and the Marin has virtually no was fear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3638">TS</a>]
01:00:44 ◼ ► and mass does have it I don't know I don't I know this is crazy and I think that's an exaggerated example [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3644">TS</a>]
01:00:49 ◼ ► and of course he would contend to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3649">TS</a>]
01:00:51 ◼ ► but the face of the funny thing as I've been thinking about analogies to talk about your difficulty with analogies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3651">TS</a>]
01:00:56 ◼ ► everytime I think of when I think now that won't work for Greg but because because he can do it you can't do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3656">TS</a>]
01:01:02 ◼ ► but you you have very strict you find flaws in them that actually you should be finding you gotta finish a comic story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3662">TS</a>]
01:01:09 ◼ ► though because you sent me that thing in my media reply with that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3669">TS</a>]
01:01:13 ◼ ► Your you trying to write dialogue for me came off of the thing that I would never ever say that I would actually in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3673">TS</a>]
01:01:20 ◼ ► Agree with the sentence that you made like I would agree with your position that it's like it's a it's a big thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3680">TS</a>]
01:01:26 ◼ ► and you probably know I have yet you trying to imagine what I'm saying. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3686">TS</a>]
01:01:30 ◼ ► You come up with me arguing against a position where I actually agree with you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3690">TS</a>]
01:01:35 ◼ ► but you're making my point for me right now. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3695">TS</a>]
01:01:37 ◼ ► Even when someone is using like a comical something as analogy you take its own literally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3697">TS</a>]
01:01:44 ◼ ► and you look for like the the truth of little so much that you don't get that it's like an exaggerated situation that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3704">TS</a>]
01:01:52 ◼ ► would that's not the actual situation that is being used to illustrate a point I understand that it's a common Yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3712">TS</a>]
01:01:57 ◼ ► but seriously still you're arguing with me saying why robot comics all wrong because that's not what I would say it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3717">TS</a>]
01:02:03 ◼ ► like a parody it was a joke that was like exaggerating the point another one another way I think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3723">TS</a>]
01:02:09 ◼ ► and I've been thinking about this a bit like me a pair of Oakes Yes the masters of ambiguous communication a parable. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3729">TS</a>]
01:02:15 ◼ ► Exactly exactly the fact that you that's how you describe a parable makes my point for me exactly this if you one thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3735">TS</a>]
01:02:22 ◼ ► make sure that your message will be interpreted in a vast variety of different waves. Use a parable. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3742">TS</a>]
01:02:30 ◼ ► but that's the problem you see you focus on the wrong things you focus on the wrong points in a parable visit there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3750">TS</a>]
01:02:38 ◼ ► there's a point that's been made and someone's trying to make it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3758">TS</a>]
01:02:41 ◼ ► and then you're looking at all these other little tensions inside details and drives me bonkers. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3761">TS</a>]
01:02:48 ◼ ► Draws people because I know now it drives me bonkers to his oath about this and I don't know how you'll react to this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3768">TS</a>]
01:02:57 ◼ ► There is a kind of thinking that I really value but that I I don't think I can do very well myself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3777">TS</a>]
01:03:06 ◼ ► and there's a topic I have later in the show on a few minor get to it today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3786">TS</a>]
01:03:09 ◼ ► but the release of this which is arguments from first principles I don't think that I'm very good at looking at a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3789">TS</a>]
01:03:16 ◼ ► problem and then breaking it down into first principles and then trying to build it up from there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3796">TS</a>]
01:03:21 ◼ ► but I do think that's the best kind of arguments and thinking that can be done and I love that kind of thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3801">TS</a>]
01:03:27 ◼ ► but I often find myself feeling that when I am not able to do that I have to fall back on. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3807">TS</a>]
01:03:33 ◼ ► Analogies to and if you listen to us. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3813">TS</a>]
01:03:35 ◼ ► Argue I use analogies as well as in my mind I feel like every time I use an analogy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3815">TS</a>]
01:03:41 ◼ ► and I'm not doing something from first principles. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3821">TS</a>]
01:03:44 ◼ ► I have basically failed in arguing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3824">TS</a>]
01:03:46 ◼ ► and that the analogy is just like a like a drowning man grasping at anything trying to make an argument that's the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3826">TS</a>]
01:03:52 ◼ ► I feel about out analogies because whatever what always happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3832">TS</a>]
01:03:56 ◼ ► when you argue an analogy that you always end up arguing about the specifics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3836">TS</a>]
01:04:00 ◼ ► and like where does the analogy breaks down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3840">TS</a>]
01:04:03 ◼ ► and I just I don't think an analogy there are the are great literary tools [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3843">TS</a>]
01:04:08 ◼ ► but they're not angry have to work for the analogy to break down that it's that's the problem with people on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3848">TS</a>]
01:04:13 ◼ ► Internet they think everything is a challenge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3853">TS</a>]
01:04:16 ◼ ► and a not to be cracked they think anytime someone makes an analogy it's almost a sport of finding the point where the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3856">TS</a>]
01:04:23 ◼ ► analogy breaks down instead of looking for where an analogy or metaphor breaks down look for the value in it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3863">TS</a>]
01:04:30 ◼ ► Take that and discard the rest. Don't you don't always have to be poking and prodding and looking for flaws. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3870">TS</a>]
01:04:37 ◼ ► An analogy let me talk about beauty for a second. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3877">TS</a>]
01:04:40 ◼ ► Talk about puberty a lot of people took issue with me saying that I think things can be more beautiful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3880">TS</a>]
01:04:45 ◼ ► when you turn to know all the details it's going on I was saying the fireman video about flowers being more beautiful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3885">TS</a>]
01:04:51 ◼ ► when you know the science that's not always true things are always more awesome an amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3891">TS</a>]
01:04:57 ◼ ► when you know everything that's going on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3897">TS</a>]
01:04:59 ◼ ► but they're not always more beautiful let me use Scarlett you're handsome I for some reason over the time has become a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3899">TS</a>]
01:05:08 ◼ ► Character in your mind in the pod goes no other thing Audie think are that of a select the wood writers F.A.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3908">TS</a>]
01:05:13 ◼ ► Person but she's a pretty lady and we we've used here in the past as an example of a pretty lady. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3913">TS</a>]
01:05:19 ◼ ► So we're going to she's going to be our example of a pretty she's going to be after tea lady OK. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3919">TS</a>]
01:05:22 ◼ ► Scalia Hansen is not looking not looking person she is attractive and considered beautiful to a lot of people yes. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3922">TS</a>]
01:05:33 ◼ ► and muscle going on she has brown mush going through her intestines that sometimes comes out of her she has sweat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3933">TS</a>]
01:05:40 ◼ ► accumulating under her pits she has bacteria under her toenails these zero part of her skull that you hence it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3940">TS</a>]
01:05:49 ◼ ► but when you start thinking about all that stuff some of that kind of a pretty a nice mess goes away. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3949">TS</a>]
01:05:58 ◼ ► and it's amazing she's an amazing machine like all the rest of us with all of this incredible complexity that we should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3958">TS</a>]
01:06:04 ◼ ► marvel at but it's not really what you want to think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3964">TS</a>]
01:06:07 ◼ ► when you want to just admire something for being just pretty and nice and if you think I'm wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3967">TS</a>]
01:06:15 ◼ ► and you think she is more amazing when you think about all those things so she's more pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3975">TS</a>]
01:06:18 ◼ ► when you think about all those things that's fair enough and I respect your opinion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3978">TS</a>]
01:06:23 ◼ ► and you can take that opinion to the grave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3983">TS</a>]
01:06:25 ◼ ► but you must realize that that's not the image of her that she used in advertising that's not the image of her that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3985">TS</a>]
01:06:32 ◼ ► Patricia in movie posters or in films in the Perry fume T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3992">TS</a>]
01:06:36 ◼ ► Commercials so you are in the minority if you think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/3996">TS</a>]
01:06:40 ◼ ► and that doesn't mean you're not entitled to think that that you are in the minority [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4000">TS</a>]
01:06:44 ◼ ► and most people think that Scarlett Johansson is pretty a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4004">TS</a>]
01:06:49 ◼ ► when you disregard all of the complexity that is going on at that kind of biological price level my statement was that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4009">TS</a>]
01:06:59 ◼ ► it doesn't detract but that knowing about the thing in more detail doesn't detract from its beauty. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4019">TS</a>]
01:07:08 ◼ ► Well if my unclear if that included all of that in the ad I mean of course everyone knows she's a human who goes to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4028">TS</a>]
01:07:14 ◼ ► toilet but if they included that in the ad I argue it would detract. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4034">TS</a>]
01:07:19 ◼ ► Yeah but that's because who is not attractive I mean for most people. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4039">TS</a>]
01:07:26 ◼ ► Thank you to pay basically pay was not expensive sums up my argument and yet and so people are wired. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4046">TS</a>]
01:07:34 ◼ ► I'm so sorry for the people but yeah go for your brain is it is not attractive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4054">TS</a>]
01:07:40 ◼ ► and yet it is part of the reality of humans [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4060">TS</a>]
01:07:43 ◼ ► and that's what I'm saying about some of these other things once you know all of the reality the thing can be less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4063">TS</a>]
01:07:49 ◼ ► attractive it's still more amazing but and too is amazing. But it's not attractive. It's not it's not. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4069">TS</a>]
01:07:57 ◼ ► Poetically attractive it's not it's just not it's not that nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4077">TS</a>]
01:08:03 ◼ ► but the thing that makes the thing that makes Scarlett Johansson attractive. Has nothing to do with those things. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4083">TS</a>]
01:08:09 ◼ ► That's why knowing about them doesn't attract everything everything about her that makes her attractive to other people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4089">TS</a>]
01:08:17 ◼ ► is on the outside of her visible on the you know greater than zero. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4097">TS</a>]
01:08:22 ◼ ► Half a centimeter scale that is the part of her that is attractive physically is not the insides of her intestines if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4102">TS</a>]
01:08:29 ◼ ► am on a picnic with someone say my wife and we're having a a remand to moment and a rainbow comes out there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4109">TS</a>]
01:08:40 ◼ ► and it's just happy it's just a happy nine right if I was to then start describing to have a house a lot was refracting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4120">TS</a>]
01:08:49 ◼ ► and reflecting through the rain drops and started talking about some of the science [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4129">TS</a>]
01:08:53 ◼ ► and the optics of Rambo Yes I think that would detract from the moment we're having for her OK [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4133">TS</a>]
01:09:00 ◼ ► but we're not talking about does it detract from the beauty of a rainbow. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4140">TS</a>]
01:09:04 ◼ ► We're now talking about the particulars of what your love which of what your wife likes in a romantic moment. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4144">TS</a>]
01:09:10 ◼ ► That's two different things. She's a person on the person I'm just saying people people need to understand that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4150">TS</a>]
01:09:18 ◼ ► It's good to know everything but when you know everything I think some of the I'm not going to use that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4158">TS</a>]
01:09:25 ◼ ► and what it because people get really upset about I need to think of a better word no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4165">TS</a>]
01:09:28 ◼ ► but I know what you mean I know what you mean that the like there is nothing that feel like the word the N. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4168">TS</a>]
01:09:34 ◼ ► Word is a bad word but yeah I I know what you're talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4174">TS</a>]
01:09:40 ◼ ► but I think this is partly that I'm discussing beauty in a in a more narrow almost definitional way yeah it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4180">TS</a>]
01:09:52 ◼ ► I clear my name on one thing about this free will and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4192">TS</a>]
01:09:55 ◼ ► and then we'll move on I did want to clear my name here for all the people in the Reddit who as you were saying were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4195">TS</a>]
01:10:03 ◼ ► Gray not know that quantum mechanics exist why does he keep talking about their monistic universe right this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4203">TS</a>]
01:10:09 ◼ ► problem you are having. I didn't take a little moment here for my own gods. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4209">TS</a>]
01:10:14 ◼ ► Yeah deterministic was not the best word to use because I tend to use this in a in a broader way I used a lot of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4214">TS</a>]
01:10:23 ◼ ► how I use magic. Yeah that was this is exactly if I were both taking our turns doing the exact same thing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4223">TS</a>]
01:10:29 ◼ ► So I would view something like a set of dice as deterministic in the sense that we might not be able to do to know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4229">TS</a>]
01:10:40 ◼ ► number is going to come up when you roll dice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4240">TS</a>]
01:10:44 ◼ ► but everything there is to know about rolling dice that we know we know the bell curve distribution that seven is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4244">TS</a>]
01:10:52 ◼ ► what's going to come up the most into and twelve are going to come up the least often that this is known [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4252">TS</a>]
01:10:59 ◼ ► and that everything about dice behavior is described by that situation and so we could very well live [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4259">TS</a>]
01:11:06 ◼ ► and pro most certainly live in a universe where human nature is fundamentally probabilistic because quantum mechanics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4266">TS</a>]
01:11:15 ◼ ► is probable a stick but that doesn't change the fact that if you if you knew everything about the brain and Adams [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4275">TS</a>]
01:11:24 ◼ ► and everything else you could start drawing bell curves for human activities in the same way that you can draw a bell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4284">TS</a>]
01:11:32 ◼ ► when people talk about still having free will under those circumstances to me it's still just randomness. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4292">TS</a>]
01:11:37 ◼ ► It's like if you had a self-aware set of dice and you roll them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4297">TS</a>]
01:11:42 ◼ ► and every time the dice tell you I chose to roll a for this time I chose to roll it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4302">TS</a>]
01:11:46 ◼ ► Well this time that I felt like rolling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4306">TS</a>]
01:11:49 ◼ ► but you know that if you keep rolling those dice It always produces this perfect bell curve like nothing those dice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4309">TS</a>]
01:11:55 ◼ ► could say could convince me it's making choices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4315">TS</a>]
01:11:58 ◼ ► when I have a mathematical model that perfectly predicts in a sadistical manner what choices that dice makes So I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4318">TS</a>]
01:12:05 ◼ ► that that the most accurate way to describe it might be that humans are shockingly complicated dice that are really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4325">TS</a>]
01:12:14 ◼ ► good at convincing themselves they're picking the numbers they're rolling. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4334">TS</a>]
01:12:18 ◼ ► But I don't think that's that's any more free will than if the universe was deterministic in the more narrow sense of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4338">TS</a>]
01:12:25 ◼ ► it's all cogging yours at the bottom and then and humans [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4345">TS</a>]
01:12:28 ◼ ► and a system that could ever become chaotic it may very well be that on long time scales in the universe it becomes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4348">TS</a>]
01:12:39 ◼ ► but even systems that we traditionally describe as chaotic like the weather is a good example the weather is still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4359">TS</a>]
01:12:48 ◼ ► and this this is still the same thing of sure you can't know what the weather is going to be like three hundred sixty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4368">TS</a>]
01:12:55 ◼ ► but you can lay out bell curve to give you the probabilities of what the weather will be within certain ranges it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4375">TS</a>]
01:13:02 ◼ ► going to be twenty million Kelvin and is not going to be zero Kelvin or we get we can bounce what that's going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4382">TS</a>]
01:13:11 ◼ ► and the other problem that I have with this is there's a I don't know how to call it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4391">TS</a>]
01:13:15 ◼ ► but if I feel there's a bit of a like as Xeno's paradox in free will that sure over long periods of time it's very hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4395">TS</a>]
01:13:22 ◼ ► but if you start making the time period shorter and shorter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4402">TS</a>]
01:13:25 ◼ ► and shorter like the room for free will also decreases because if you can predict very accurately what at what someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4405">TS</a>]
01:13:34 ◼ ► is going to do a tenth of a second from now every tenth of a second. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4414">TS</a>]
01:13:39 ◼ ► Well now you can just pull a that threw over a longer period of time. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4419">TS</a>]
01:13:43 ◼ ► and you just keep updating your model with what is the exact situation of the universe right now so that's where it still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4423">TS</a>]
01:13:49 ◼ ► feels to me like I don't I still don't see where the free will isn't any of this I think is really just like dice in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4429">TS</a>]
01:13:54 ◼ ► brain and it feels like free will but it isn't you know how you have to scrape sites in technology [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4434">TS</a>]
01:14:01 ◼ ► and think things are going to be a set and when you talk a lot of a how computers going to be able to do this that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4441">TS</a>]
01:14:07 ◼ ► Do you have a think that you think corrupted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4447">TS</a>]
01:14:13 ◼ ► or influenced by that fact you happen to be living at a time of incredible technological advancement because I I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4453">TS</a>]
01:14:24 ◼ ► I've got a couple of magazines in my house that were sort of from the fifty's and sixty's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4464">TS</a>]
01:14:29 ◼ ► and they were written at a time of incredible advancement in human space exploration. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4469">TS</a>]
01:14:34 ◼ ► When ever been if things were just extraordinary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4474">TS</a>]
01:14:36 ◼ ► and these things magazines a clot a cause in the talking about what we're going to be doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4476">TS</a>]
01:14:40 ◼ ► and am moon bases in nineteen eighty hand how will all be on mass by the intervention and obviously things changed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4480">TS</a>]
01:14:46 ◼ ► and things have slowed down. Quite a bit from what people thought were going to happen. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4486">TS</a>]
01:14:52 ◼ ► Your living at a time when computers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4492">TS</a>]
01:14:54 ◼ ► and technology is going to incredible right are you a bit like the dazzle to journalists who are rotting in those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4494">TS</a>]
01:15:02 ◼ ► and mass bases with all your outlandish predictions for all the things that technology is going to be able to read in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4502">TS</a>]
01:15:07 ◼ ► the next twenty fifty one hundred years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4507">TS</a>]
01:15:10 ◼ ► and in a couple of hundred years is a possible something's going to happen like what happened to human space [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4510">TS</a>]
01:15:16 ◼ ► exploration the things that changed and paper going to look back at your videos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4516">TS</a>]
01:15:20 ◼ ► and your comments in the things you think and think well that's kind of slate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4520">TS</a>]
01:15:24 ◼ ► and obviously he was a product of the time he was living in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4524">TS</a>]
01:15:26 ◼ ► but gosh things didn't go that quick things stopped suddenly. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4526">TS</a>]
01:15:31 ◼ ► Oh yeah yeah I mean we all can't help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4531">TS</a>]
01:15:34 ◼ ► but be a product of our time the the only thing I'll say about that are two points one. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4534">TS</a>]
01:15:41 ◼ ► I'm often really frustrated by people going back in time and then finding ridiculous predictions for the future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4541">TS</a>]
01:15:49 ◼ ► and I think that's a very easy very fun game to play and especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4549">TS</a>]
01:15:52 ◼ ► when people play the game where they act as though movies were in the business of making accurate predictions like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4552">TS</a>]
01:15:59 ◼ ► we're supposed to have hoverboard by now where's my her board is twenty fifteen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4559">TS</a>]
01:16:03 ◼ ► and is twenty fifteen it back to the future like go back to the future wasn't in the job of trying to make any kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4563">TS</a>]
01:16:07 ◼ ► realistic prediction can can you know put a little bit of that of many of these great just a little bit like just sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4567">TS</a>]
01:16:12 ◼ ► of a general like cultural thing like no because I'm not interested in what moviegoers think the future is going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4572">TS</a>]
01:16:18 ◼ ► like a much more interested in what do you professionals working in the field. Think is going. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4578">TS</a>]
01:16:24 ◼ ► but I'm not the snow at least partly coloured by that I mean yeah in the sense that people who make up stories are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4584">TS</a>]
01:16:31 ◼ ► influenced by the real world but I'm not going to look at the maker uppers for the predictions. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4591">TS</a>]
01:16:38 ◼ ► I'm much more interested in what scientists working at the time had to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4598">TS</a>]
01:16:41 ◼ ► and they're again one of the clear you find all kinds of crazy predictions there as well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4601">TS</a>]
01:16:45 ◼ ► but I find that they are often more bounded by reality but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4605">TS</a>]
01:16:50 ◼ ► and I have an interest in the space exploration time in very different ways because I I think that a lot of the space [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4610">TS</a>]
01:17:00 ◼ ► exploration stuff was like this amazing anomaly in technological progress in time the happenstance of politics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4620">TS</a>]
01:17:11 ◼ ► and the happenstance of the level of technology that existed and the economies at the time. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4631">TS</a>]
01:17:16 ◼ ► Allowed an enormous amount of human time effort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4636">TS</a>]
01:17:22 ◼ ► and money to be poured into a technology which was not really practical at the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4642">TS</a>]
01:17:30 ◼ ► but was still able to achieve results [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4650">TS</a>]
01:17:33 ◼ ► and so that's partly why I think a lot of the will be in space by the two thousand predictions are off because there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4653">TS</a>]
01:17:41 ◼ ► was there was this weird anomaly occurring Paypal and taking that sort of ski into account. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4661">TS</a>]
01:17:49 ◼ ► Yeah that there there was like a there was like a future discount bias here something like like where we're massively [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4669">TS</a>]
01:17:59 ◼ ► It turns out that it can't pay off on the time scales that we needed to to keep up this investment for twenty thirty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4679">TS</a>]
01:18:07 ◼ ► Which Which is precisely what we saw happened right funding just as dramatically dropped in general [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4687">TS</a>]
01:18:12 ◼ ► and I think we're getting close now to the time with Space X. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4692">TS</a>]
01:18:15 ◼ ► and Other projects where we're really beginning to get into the world of space exploration might be with part of called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4695">TS</a>]
01:18:23 ◼ ► the Jason possible of technologies we have enough other stuff now that makes this easier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4703">TS</a>]
01:18:30 ◼ ► but we really weren't there at that time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4710">TS</a>]
01:18:32 ◼ ► and the only I wish I had other comparison the only thing I can think of is this famous story about Richard Fineman was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4712">TS</a>]
01:18:39 ◼ ► very interested in nanotechnology which is a thing that I was interested in as well in college which is the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4719">TS</a>]
01:18:44 ◼ ► technology of building atomic scale machines and he wanted to promote the growth of this field [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4724">TS</a>]
01:18:53 ◼ ► and so he had a competition to create a functioning electric motor that was something like five millimeters in size he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4733">TS</a>]
01:19:01 ◼ ► wanted someone to be able to make a tiny electric motor as the first step towards nanotechnology [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4741">TS</a>]
01:19:06 ◼ ► and he offered a prize. But the problem was he was thinking that in order to build a motor that that was that small. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4746">TS</a>]
01:19:14 ◼ ► Someone would need to grow it's like a mold or something you couldn't build this with traditional structures [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4754">TS</a>]
01:19:21 ◼ ► but it turns out that that was just on the scale that precision jewellers with the right magnifying to glasses could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4761">TS</a>]
01:19:29 ◼ ► actually with the right tools physically constructs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4769">TS</a>]
01:19:33 ◼ ► and so I think the space race might be something like that where the goal is to get to the moon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4773">TS</a>]
01:19:39 ◼ ► and in the sixty's we just had the technology to hit that goal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4779">TS</a>]
01:19:45 ◼ ► but to not hit it in a sustainable way I think O'Mara nice to that that in summary is why I think the predictions were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4785">TS</a>]
01:19:55 ◼ ► overly optimistic about where will be was based trouble in there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4795">TS</a>]
01:19:58 ◼ ► and you don't think do you think any of those factors are at play now that I'm making a really optimistic Yes Of So [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4798">TS</a>]
01:20:03 ◼ ► that's that's coming coming back to this is I don't see that same kind of thing what I see instead is massive demand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4803">TS</a>]
01:20:14 ◼ ► for more computing power at a lower cost. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4814">TS</a>]
01:20:18 ◼ ► Just from all sections of the economy has massive poll here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4818">TS</a>]
01:20:23 ◼ ► and so that's why there are also there's also lots of human time effort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4823">TS</a>]
01:20:28 ◼ ► and resources spent on increasing computing power [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4828">TS</a>]
01:20:31 ◼ ► and all kinds of ways so I think I'm I'm less likely to be wrong about. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4831">TS</a>]
01:20:38 ◼ ► Increased and accelerating technological change but I'm always open to the possibility that I'm wrong. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4838">TS</a>]
01:20:44 ◼ ► There may there may be physical boundaries in the structure of the universe that we are unaware of that limit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4844">TS</a>]
01:20:51 ◼ ► technological progress there's no rule of the universe that says computers will always double in speed you know there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4851">TS</a>]
01:20:57 ◼ ► may be some some limit that we start pressing up against the totally stopped us it may also be that there are just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4857">TS</a>]
01:21:05 ◼ ► things that we can't do that humans are not smart enough as a species to accomplish various things I almost think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4865">TS</a>]
01:21:13 ◼ ► a miracle and hunting for that word lightly. How much our monkey brains can do. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4873">TS</a>]
01:21:18 ◼ ► Here's no reason that monkeys swinging from trees should be able to develop brings a can do calculus it's astounding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4878">TS</a>]
01:21:27 ◼ ► how pliable the human brain is and it's easy to think oh wow are such an amazing species look how smart we are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4887">TS</a>]
01:21:34 ◼ ► but there's some limit we're not infinitely smart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4894">TS</a>]
01:21:38 ◼ ► and so we may run up against just some biological limit of our own smartness even if there isn't a limit in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4898">TS</a>]
01:21:44 ◼ ► universe so there are there are ways that this could stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4904">TS</a>]
01:21:47 ◼ ► but I I don't see evidence for those limits so for the moment I'm kind of assuming that they don't exist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4907">TS</a>]
01:21:53 ◼ ► and the route it really is a limit to your snotty this is definitely a limit to my smart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4913">TS</a>]
01:21:57 ◼ ► and say I think that limit is going down the older I get that feeling. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4917">TS</a>]
01:22:01 ◼ ► Yeah to fill out I feel dumber than I did years ago I feel like I was smarter do you think your best days are behind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4921">TS</a>]
01:22:08 ◼ ► you. My best with the days of intellectual worker behind me that's for sure. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4928">TS</a>]
01:22:14 ◼ ► Maybe not my my best days in terms of enjoyment of life but in terms of raw brain processing ability. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4934">TS</a>]
01:22:21 ◼ ► Yeah I mean you're you're over the hill it twenty six. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4941">TS</a>]
01:22:24 ◼ ► Enact in that field you want to be a top physicist I hope you get started soon you know that's a that's a goal there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4944">TS</a>]
01:22:32 ◼ ► are your best days as a youtube filmmaker behind you I think it's possible that the humans need not apply video might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4952">TS</a>]
01:22:43 ◼ ► be the high water mark of anything I ever produce. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4963">TS</a>]
01:22:47 ◼ ► Yeah this is a good idea it's a good video what I'm saying is I would own I don't want that to be the case obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4967">TS</a>]
01:22:58 ◼ ► but I'm open to the possibility that that might be the best thing that I ever make in terms of things that I think are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4978">TS</a>]
01:23:04 ◼ ► good you know view numbers is a different thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4984">TS</a>]
01:23:06 ◼ ► but if I'm looking back on the body of work that I do I can I can imagine on my death bed thinking you know that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4986">TS</a>]
01:23:13 ◼ ► probably the best forty years ago when on ever. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4993">TS</a>]
01:23:16 ◼ ► Everybody has a high water mark some point and you know what it's not the day before you die. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/4996">TS</a>]
01:23:21 ◼ ► Usually the house you're very unlucky. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/5001">TS</a>]
01:23:25 ◼ ► Yeah yeah what about your your your best video making days ahead of you breeding I mean your way older than me I think. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/5005">TS</a>]
01:23:35 ◼ ► The amount of time I have is what dictates what I make and how good what I make is more than more than my abilities [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/5015">TS</a>]
01:23:44 ◼ ► and I think on the Kola I'm really busy at the moment and I have so much today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/5024">TS</a>]
01:23:48 ◼ ► and sometimes that means I can spend as long and making things good or thinking about a creative way to do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/5028">TS</a>]
01:23:56 ◼ ► and I think if I was able to carve out some time here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/5036">TS</a>]
01:24:01 ◼ ► and there I could still make some pretty some pretty great things some things that are better them of night before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/5041">TS</a>]
01:24:06 ◼ ► but as as you get out or New get more responsibilities [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/5046">TS</a>]
01:24:09 ◼ ► and loss finding that time becomes hada I don't think my brain's not capable of a little odd so I'm just finding out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/5049">TS</a>]
01:24:18 ◼ ► Well maybe I need more time maybe that maybe that is part of getting out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/5058">TS</a>]
01:24:22 ◼ ► and I am here is the thing is that you're missing out on time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/5062">TS</a>]
01:24:26 ◼ ► or finding it harder finding it harder to find time is part of getting old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/5066">TS</a>]
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01:25:09 ◼ ► Is not the be all and end all of how good the stuff I create is and in fact it's not. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/5109">TS</a>]
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01:25:53 ◼ ► Write something better than what came before. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/5153">TS</a>]
01:25:54 ◼ ► OK so we're drawing a formula on the board here we're going to assume that the amount of time that you have vailable as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/5154">TS</a>]
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01:26:04 ◼ ► but that the experience function is greater for some period of time than the decrease in brain yeah yeah I think carries [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/5164">TS</a>]
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01:26:23 ◼ ► Yeah yeah there is that there is that there is a crossover I don't think I don't think I don't think I've hit it yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/5183">TS</a>]
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01:26:36 ◼ ► Yeah it is it is so you get you get you know more experience but maybe spend more time on things. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/5196">TS</a>]
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01:29:44 ◼ ► when you get to one hundred thousand subscribers on a channel you are supposed to get this small a silver button I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/5384">TS</a>]
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01:29:58 ◼ ► have been implanted after no roster over the hundred I'm not sure that's the case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/5398">TS</a>]
01:30:02 ◼ ► but anyway I got in touch with each of the other day because I actually have five channels with over one hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/5402">TS</a>]
01:30:08 ◼ ► thousand subscribers so I got in touch with each of the other day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/5408">TS</a>]
01:30:12 ◼ ► and said You know I never got SUV about NS Looking for a little glib for my trophy room just sort of to sit number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/5412">TS</a>]
01:30:18 ◼ ► shows at the moment caught by foot five silver buttons. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/5418">TS</a>]
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01:30:31 ◼ ► and the different people have collaborated with me as a Little things to put on their wall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/5431">TS</a>]
01:30:36 ◼ ► but before I did there are so I'll get them all out of their boxes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/5436">TS</a>]
01:30:38 ◼ ► and take a picture of the motor gather in one place because just to document the moment I wrote together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/5438">TS</a>]
01:30:44 ◼ ► and I have to say when they were all in a row they look Conan us then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/5444">TS</a>]
01:30:48 ◼ ► and I'm nothing can they be actually keep pace myself you're going to keep them put them up on the wall I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/5448">TS</a>]
01:30:54 ◼ ► OK but they do that nice is a little collection. Jim a photo can you send me a picture. The picture. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/5454">TS</a>]
01:31:03 ◼ ► I'll put on a picture on the show you know they have a seat at the picture now so you can let people couldn't hear your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/5463">TS</a>]
01:31:09 ◼ ► reaction to I don't even need to see it I'm sure it's lovely. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/5469">TS</a>]
01:31:12 ◼ ► Well too bad you say in the like Audrey photos I notice I'm cute [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/5472">TS</a>]
01:31:18 ◼ ► but I'm going to get it I'm actually having to scroll through about ninety [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/5478">TS</a>]
01:31:21 ◼ ► or a few photos to find about THINK I'M SO I know every time we're in person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/5481">TS</a>]
01:31:25 ◼ ► and you want to show me anything on your phone it's just there's a wall of beige that you're scrolling through find the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/5485">TS</a>]
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01:31:41 ◼ ► this photo fireplace in your office. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/5501">TS</a>]
01:31:44 ◼ ► Thirty forty foot up like this in actual fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/5504">TS</a>]
01:31:47 ◼ ► but boarded up it's not functioning anymore I'm not sure I can see it that is boarded up. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/5507">TS</a>]
01:31:53 ◼ ► No You know you can see that if I can I'm looking I'm looking at the bottom of it right now you couldn't put a you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/5513">TS</a>]
01:31:58 ◼ ► couldn't put firewood in there you don't have an open flew Gray the bottom of the fireplace is not in that fighter has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/5518">TS</a>]
01:32:04 ◼ ► and they thought what you're looking at there that's just the times that go across the top of the fireplace. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/5524">TS</a>]
01:32:12 ◼ ► Grow I send you a fighter and I don't and you can apologize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/5532">TS</a>]
01:32:17 ◼ ► and anyway in the meantime I'm looking at your five What is the fourth for deep guy videos number file computer file [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/5537">TS</a>]
01:32:26 ◼ ► and sixty symbols all of hundred thousand Yeah it looks glorious as those five across the top of the fireplace. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/5546">TS</a>]
01:32:32 ◼ ► Do you like I do I think that looks good I think you should keep them I didn't think you'd say that I think it looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/5552">TS</a>]
01:32:40 ◼ ► They're just the perfect length for the fireplace I think you should I'm not going to put them there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/5560">TS</a>]
01:32:45 ◼ ► and I do not put them not to touch them to the wall. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/5565">TS</a>]
01:32:49 ◼ ► OK if you put them right above the fireplace because if you just put them somewhere else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/5569">TS</a>]
01:32:53 ◼ ► and whatever then I don't care what you do with them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/5573">TS</a>]
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01:33:11 ◼ ► but I very often find hard to know who are messaging and because things just flipped on their own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/5591">TS</a>]
01:33:16 ◼ ► and sometimes I think a message in one person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/5596">TS</a>]
01:33:19 ◼ ► and I'm messaging another person you know obviously you know you send the wrong message to the wrong person. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/5599">TS</a>]
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01:33:28 ◼ ► I message rearrange is the location of where everybody is near little sidebar depending on whose message recently at I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/5608">TS</a>]
01:33:35 ◼ ► did discover because I was complaining about on Twitter that if you double click on someone's picture on i Message [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/5615">TS</a>]
01:33:40 ◼ ► it'll pop them out in a little window on the side and that's helpful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/5620">TS</a>]
01:33:46 ◼ ► but you also don't you know I find if two people are messaging me at one time my brain is going to explode. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/5626">TS</a>]
01:33:51 ◼ ► Yaz and it's hard to know how long you're going to talk to people for to pull them out like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/5631">TS</a>]
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01:33:59 ◼ ► So yes it's very young the nicest to send a message to the wrong person I had a good one the other day it was around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/5639">TS</a>]
01:34:04 ◼ ► the time of my birthday and I was messaging my mother in law and I believe it was destiny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/5644">TS</a>]
01:34:12 ◼ ► and I was a mailing destine about some contract don't document I head [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/5652">TS</a>]
01:34:18 ◼ ► and he was asking me if some wording had been changed in this contract [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/5658">TS</a>]
01:34:23 ◼ ► and I was basically saying to him I haven't I haven't even read it but I doubt it will have been changed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/5663">TS</a>]
01:34:29 ◼ ► and I think it will be the same as all the other previous drafts. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/5669">TS</a>]
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01:34:39 ◼ ► and I had like a picture of someone playing cricket on the front so I want to thank for it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/5679">TS</a>]
01:34:45 ◼ ► Sigh i sent this side this is the I sent this message to my mother [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/5685">TS</a>]
01:34:50 ◼ ► nor sank thank you very much for my lovely cricket caught from Brady [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/5690">TS</a>]
01:34:56 ◼ ► and then the next message I sent to her as well which was meant to be to Destine said I honestly haven't looked at it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/5696">TS</a>]
01:35:02 ◼ ► but I'm sure it won't be different from any of the others. Oh and it was such a perfect follow on thanks so much. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/5702">TS</a>]
01:35:13 ◼ ► I haven't looked at it won't be different from what it was such if I had to fight her immediately to explain before she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/5713">TS</a>]
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01:35:35 ◼ ► that just the stars lined up she thought it was hilarious. Did she though. Yes she did she did. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/5735">TS</a>]
01:35:43 ◼ ► Cannot talk about swear words you want you want to jump to this we should never do this before we started recording I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/5743">TS</a>]
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01:36:15 ◼ ► you're going to have to cut so much from that read a section. Yes I read it and excellence. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/5775">TS</a>]
01:36:19 ◼ ► and so much from whatever came after that there's been so much stuff you're going to have to cut that we're probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/5779">TS</a>]
01:36:24 ◼ ► only twenty minutes into the pocket book just yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/5784">TS</a>]
01:36:27 ◼ ► but I am wondering about the same thing I am aware that this is a pod cast it is going to be extra cut so I manned up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/5787">TS</a>]
01:36:33 ◼ ► in the situation with the worst of everything we recorded for a long time. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/5793">TS</a>]
01:36:39 ◼ ► Creatures coming to that end up with me having a huge editing job that also results in the podcast being way shorter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/5799">TS</a>]
01:36:47 ◼ ► when we can stop talking let me let me talk about swearing I uploaded the video the other day. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/5807">TS</a>]
01:36:54 ◼ ► And in it I had this colorful character this guy into and he was being O'Flynn buoyant interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/5814">TS</a>]
01:37:00 ◼ ► and at one point he said Hot damn like an erratic cited what he was getting at something to play with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/5820">TS</a>]
01:37:06 ◼ ► and he was so excited about what hot day M. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/5826">TS</a>]
01:37:09 ◼ ► and Then he continued with his conversation and when I was editing at I did for half a second think Hot damn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/5829">TS</a>]
01:37:16 ◼ ► and I thought Now I he said he knew the cameras rolling it's fun it's funny I don't think that's an offensive word [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/5836">TS</a>]
01:37:23 ◼ ► people know that I don't swear but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/5843">TS</a>]
01:37:26 ◼ ► but they also know I have my definition of swear words in the often say these words [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/5846">TS</a>]
01:37:30 ◼ ► and people who thought you didn't but you said. Ex-wives it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/5850">TS</a>]
01:37:34 ◼ ► Yeah I don't consider damn swear word so I left in the video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/5854">TS</a>]
01:37:39 ◼ ► and then I got an e-mail from a I wish I could fall in the now it was a really nice same hour [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/5859">TS</a>]
01:37:45 ◼ ► and it was really well written but I can't find it by searching for the word damn. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/5865">TS</a>]
01:37:50 ◼ ► Because this person was so offended by the word damn they didn't you say if it didn't include it in their Hema [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/5870">TS</a>]
01:37:57 ◼ ► and I can't remember the other words they used the anyway they said I shouldn't have left it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/5877">TS</a>]
01:38:02 ◼ ► and teaches play these videos to kids it's cetera et cetera [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/5882">TS</a>]
01:38:10 ◼ ► and I was like that's interesting how we really are what was your reaction to that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/5890">TS</a>]
01:38:14 ◼ ► Well my reaction was I went to Twitter and smarter to follow as if they think is an offensive word and I would say. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/5894">TS</a>]
01:38:26 ◼ ► To the majority feeling was it's maybe a one out of ten very very mild another problem a couple paper said I thought it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/5906">TS</a>]
01:38:35 ◼ ► was offensive as a lot of people said no offense even in the slightest. Some people had very very mild not a problem. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/5915">TS</a>]
01:38:43 ◼ ► I basically right back to the the person who wrote The man said to have thank you very much. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/5923">TS</a>]
01:38:49 ◼ ► I sent her a link to the Twitter compensation I said I think you might find is interesting I was a city where there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/5929">TS</a>]
01:38:54 ◼ ► fist and word to some freaky language in it because as you can imagine some J.T. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/5934">TS</a>]
01:38:59 ◼ ► People might seem pretty funny plus but it just got me thinking about the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/5939">TS</a>]
01:39:04 ◼ ► and I wonder where you stand on the word how do you feel about it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/5944">TS</a>]
01:39:07 ◼ ► Well first I did a very similar thing to you on one of my videos a while back to the one where I was talking about how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/5947">TS</a>]
01:39:14 ◼ ► to become the British monarch this is around the time of the first royal baby was going to be born yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/5954">TS</a>]
01:39:20 ◼ ► and I did this for a word which I thought was so mild [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/5960">TS</a>]
01:39:23 ◼ ► but I was aware that this was a video that might be being shown in primary schools in the U.K. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/5963">TS</a>]
01:39:28 ◼ ► Because it was a you know this topic which is going around at the time. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/5968">TS</a>]
01:39:31 ◼ ► Yeah and I know for a fact it was shown in a bunch of primary schools [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/5971">TS</a>]
01:39:34 ◼ ► but I had the word bastard in their one point yet because one of the rules is don't be a bastard. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/5974">TS</a>]
01:39:40 ◼ ► Yeah and it was the same thing of hesitating over this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/5980">TS</a>]
01:39:43 ◼ ► and I thought let me check with Twitter just to see what people's reactions are to the S. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/5983">TS</a>]
01:39:47 ◼ ► and It was about the same thing maybe one in ten and most people thought it was it was fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/5987">TS</a>]
01:39:52 ◼ ► and I left it in because it just works way better in the scripts than trying to write around it so I too have done this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/5992">TS</a>]
01:39:58 ◼ ► this dipstick into the current of the Internet. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/5998">TS</a>]
01:40:03 ◼ ► I want people think about this word what if you did you did you was before the video I did not afterwards I please Demi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/6003">TS</a>]
01:40:10 ◼ ► and in the category of so mild it never really crosses my attention yeah but the problem with these words [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/6010">TS</a>]
01:40:18 ◼ ► and the problems lots of things is that different people take it very differently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/6018">TS</a>]
01:40:22 ◼ ► and so there does seem to be a group of people who regard it as much more serious than I do. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/6022">TS</a>]
01:40:32 ◼ ► but before I say what I'm about to say I want to make it really clear that I am one hundred percent behind your policy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/6032">TS</a>]
01:40:41 ◼ ► of having a list of words you don't want to say and not saying that I fully support that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/6041">TS</a>]
01:40:47 ◼ ► and the totally reasonable position for anyone to take. OK well not everything accurately. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/6047">TS</a>]
01:40:55 ◼ ► Yeah OK OK Go ahead you want to do you want to try to rephrase it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/6055">TS</a>]
01:40:59 ◼ ► Disk Well I just there is a list of words I don't say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/6059">TS</a>]
01:41:01 ◼ ► but not because I think it would be wrong to say them I just as I said before I just do it because it's like a weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/6061">TS</a>]
01:41:06 ◼ ► straight can now I didn't say it because you thought the wrong I did you have a list that you don't say OK it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/6066">TS</a>]
01:41:11 ◼ ► like a game but a snotty Yeah yeah yeah but I am aware that you don't think that they're wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/6071">TS</a>]
01:41:17 ◼ ► and that's all that's also why I can without any problem. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/6077">TS</a>]
01:41:22 ◼ ► but I just don't want people to start thinking they were having some kind of argument here we're not OK [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/6082">TS</a>]
01:41:26 ◼ ► but because we can have a day that we never argue with we haven't had a prizing least serious intense conversation this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/6086">TS</a>]
01:41:35 ◼ ► time this is going to become actively cut down from its down for later. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/6095">TS</a>]
01:41:40 ◼ ► I hope you've enjoyed the forty third and final episode airs that's how I wanted it was great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/6100">TS</a>]
01:41:46 ◼ ► but we now have irreconcilable differences I have this feeling about curse words which I have tried to express some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/6106">TS</a>]
01:41:54 ◼ ► but has not been received well which is that it's the people who react strongly to curse words that give those curse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/6114">TS</a>]
01:42:05 ◼ ► words their power the words would have no power at all were it not for the reactions of people to them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/6125">TS</a>]
01:42:15 ◼ ► when I see people kicking up a fuss about a word that is let's say by broad general consensus not a strong curse word [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/6135">TS</a>]
01:42:27 ◼ ► this is just like the mean thing you are the one who is making this word works the more of a fuss you kick it up you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/6147">TS</a>]
01:42:37 ◼ ► are making it stronger if you cared less you would make it weaker and people seem to get angry about this when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/6157">TS</a>]
01:42:47 ◼ ► when I discussed is also hypocritical alert here. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/6167">TS</a>]
01:42:50 ◼ ► I bleep some curse words on the spot cast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/6170">TS</a>]
01:42:55 ◼ ► and another word what's the because you're in play ping married what's the most offensive word you're willing to say at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/6175">TS</a>]
01:43:01 ◼ ► last. Well the problem is it is also being recorded right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/6181">TS</a>]
01:43:05 ◼ ► Orrible things are going I don't want of belief so those two are the terrorists you say even knowing they'll be faked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/6185">TS</a>]
01:43:16 ◼ ► knowing the B.B. and I think we can we can use we can use is the king of curse word. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/6196">TS</a>]
01:43:24 ◼ ► Using occurs where there is is fair just to use as an example of a pure curse word the I kind of I went even say that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/6204">TS</a>]
01:43:33 ◼ ► Although I could I could I could go and and you're right you could join them together and put a break between them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/6213">TS</a>]
01:43:42 ◼ ► and like I said I could do that you want to get a little closer together to make it easier for me now you don't do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/6222">TS</a>]
01:43:51 ◼ ► get a little too close to your boundaries you know my wife would love if I swore she thought she would like she always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/6231">TS</a>]
01:44:03 ◼ ► asks me to swear like is a trait like she was going to say it once just from Maine she gets all excited [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/6243">TS</a>]
01:44:08 ◼ ► and then I'm not not who's not do it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/6248">TS</a>]
01:44:09 ◼ ► She's on the go on maybe like one day like as a birthday present I would do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/6249">TS</a>]
01:44:16 ◼ ► and even though we're talking many more so in order to avoid people thinking that I'm being hypocritical here. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/6256">TS</a>]
01:44:21 ◼ ► Yep I believe those words yet for two reasons. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/6261">TS</a>]
01:44:24 ◼ ► Yet one of which is that to be on the i Tunes store you don't want to have to mark the pod cast as explicit yet which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/6264">TS</a>]
01:44:32 ◼ ► which seems to get zero is the pod casts to some extent yeah now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/6272">TS</a>]
01:44:38 ◼ ► when I first started the pod cast I was trying to find the list of banned words from Apple just so I could know I quote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/6278">TS</a>]
01:44:44 ◼ ► What does Apple think the boundaries are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/6284">TS</a>]
01:44:46 ◼ ► and there is no lest they just have a nice vague sounding explicit words are not allowed so they leave it to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/6286">TS</a>]
01:44:52 ◼ ► judgment of the pod cast. Hosts and the complaints of the masses I guess this is yeah this is what's occurring here. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/6292">TS</a>]
01:44:58 ◼ ► So there wasn't an explicit list [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/6298">TS</a>]
01:45:01 ◼ ► but even if Apple said oh we're not going to mark explicit podcast we don't care just upload whatever I would still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/6301">TS</a>]
01:45:09 ◼ ► bleep in it and all these things. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/6309">TS</a>]
01:45:22 ◼ ► That's that's going to they tape it but I don't know how hard that up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/6322">TS</a>]
01:45:27 ◼ ► but I would still bleep these words because bleeping is funnier. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/6327">TS</a>]
01:45:31 ◼ ► Yeah it's the way funnier when something is bleeped than if it's not pleased. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/6331">TS</a>]
01:45:36 ◼ ► Yeah but you can place someone going hot damn. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/6336">TS</a>]
01:45:39 ◼ ► Yeah but then you just look like an eighty it's you know it's like the biggest proof of yeah you look like a prude [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/6339">TS</a>]
01:45:44 ◼ ► and it's it's not funny and I think I think. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/6344">TS</a>]
01:45:49 ◼ ► Bleeping damn falls into that category of what's it's not funny at all but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/6349">TS</a>]
01:45:55 ◼ ► but this sound with the belief is like it's just funny. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/6355">TS</a>]
01:46:03 ◼ ► and so I would totally believe it even if I didn't have to do so that's why it's just trying to get around it like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/6363">TS</a>]
01:46:10 ◼ ► that's why it bleeped for comedy comedy just for comedy value the podcast The job of the bad guys is to be something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/6370">TS</a>]
01:46:17 ◼ ► that people want to listen to and I think it being funny or make people want to listen to it more. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/6377">TS</a>]
01:46:25 ◼ ► but so my my general feeling about this then is with the curse words it is people's very reactions that give them their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/6385">TS</a>]
01:46:33 ◼ ► power just think about this that I like the thing that happens with little kids is that little kids at some point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/6393">TS</a>]
01:46:41 ◼ ► Yeah but if you imagine a little kid who figures out a curse word and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/6401">TS</a>]
01:46:45 ◼ ► when they start saying them all of the adults in their vicinity just don't respond they just pretend like this this has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/6405">TS</a>]
01:46:53 ◼ ► no impact on them do you think the kids would still be as drawn to curse words now. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/6413">TS</a>]
01:46:57 ◼ ► Yeah this is just this is just like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/6417">TS</a>]
01:46:59 ◼ ► Banning anything you go oh I didn't care before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/6419">TS</a>]
01:47:01 ◼ ► but now Lou how this is so attractive now that it's been banned you know I'm a I'm a little kid in the only thing I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/6421">TS</a>]
01:47:08 ◼ ► have to do is make a certain series of sounds with my mouth that are totally arbitrary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/6428">TS</a>]
01:47:12 ◼ ► and all of the really all of the adults around me their their butt cheeks clench and they draw in their breath [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/6432">TS</a>]
01:47:18 ◼ ► and it's it's like amazing and so that's why the whole power in any curse word comes from people's reactions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/6438">TS</a>]
01:47:27 ◼ ► and I tend to get frustrated with sensor police [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/6447">TS</a>]
01:47:31 ◼ ► and I get frustrated with those comments against you in the red it were people I can't believe Brady said this word I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/6451">TS</a>]
01:47:36 ◼ ► thought there was a curse word to let it go if you if you this word bothers you so much the best thing that you can do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/6456">TS</a>]
01:47:43 ◼ ► is to not publicly and constantly tell everybody how much it bothers you. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/6463">TS</a>]
01:47:48 ◼ ► Yeah I mean I don't want people calling me on it because we want to discuss that I didn't say carrots which I carry one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/6468">TS</a>]
01:47:54 ◼ ► little I'd make that confused night in particular if I have those precious there could be. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/6474">TS</a>]
01:48:00 ◼ ► Let me tell you let me tell you a story from my past if you're if you're willing that stress [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/6480">TS</a>]
01:48:07 ◼ ► and that part café I think you get bored I promise this is a story that involves people usually think it right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/6487">TS</a>]
01:48:14 ◼ ► or as great as there's not room for two guys is boring and there might not be go out OK so when I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/6494">TS</a>]
01:48:24 ◼ ► when I was in college one of the physics professors happened to have two young boys in about a needle school age maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/6504">TS</a>]
01:48:34 ◼ ► maybe slightly younger let's say around you know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/6514">TS</a>]
01:48:38 ◼ ► Eight and twelve somewhere in that range and this professor did not like cursing just yet is totally fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/6518">TS</a>]
01:48:51 ◼ ► but he did a thing that I always wished he didn't which was before he came into the labs he would have his boys wait [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/6531">TS</a>]
01:48:58 ◼ ► outside and he would come in and he would tell us. I'm about to bring my boys into the lab. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/6538">TS</a>]
01:49:06 ◼ ► Please don't curse or say rude things around them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/6546">TS</a>]
01:49:13 ◼ ► and I wish he didn't do that because just again normal civil society if kids are around I'm much less likely to curse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/6553">TS</a>]
01:49:24 ◼ ► but it's like you've planted the idea of saying horrible things around kids in my mind in this in this way that is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/6564">TS</a>]
01:49:34 ◼ ► has now made it just irresistibly attractive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/6574">TS</a>]
01:49:38 ◼ ► and so I would normally just not think about it much you know that my brain would just kick in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/6578">TS</a>]
01:49:42 ◼ ► and he'd sense yourself down because their kids in the room that's just what you do but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/6582">TS</a>]
01:49:45 ◼ ► when you come in an excess rest we tell me I'm not allowed to say bad things around your children. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/6585">TS</a>]
01:49:51 ◼ ► I'm just dying to say bad things around your children and I just can't resist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/6591">TS</a>]
01:49:59 ◼ ► and I knew I definitely had things slip in a way that I never would have if he had just not said anything if he just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/6599">TS</a>]
01:50:10 ◼ ► Gray do you know what this you know this is what it's even know what a got to have it for you kind of are going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/6610">TS</a>]
01:50:18 ◼ ► believe you know the third no secret I'm bleeping than from here on out it's just three. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/6618">TS</a>]
01:50:25 ◼ ► I almost think that the that little example is like a microcosm of the broader societal reaction to this stuff and. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/6625">TS</a>]
01:50:35 ◼ ► That's why I think it's it is people's reactions that give that give curse words their powers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/6635">TS</a>]
01:50:41 ◼ ► and they don't have a home have anything intrinsic in themselves they are just they're just words [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/6641">TS</a>]
01:50:47 ◼ ► but you know you're using you're using here as things sample which we sort of touched upon for the fog [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/6647">TS</a>]
01:50:53 ◼ ► and I've often thought you know what the Internet should do just to prove my point is make a campaign about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/6653">TS</a>]
01:51:01 ◼ ► overreacting on purpose to a word [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/6661">TS</a>]
01:51:04 ◼ ► and he is an excellent choice of a word because we be tension really have cultural differences [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/6664">TS</a>]
01:51:11 ◼ ► and misunderstandings here and it's like it's like a word that might be slightly on the edge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/6671">TS</a>]
01:51:16 ◼ ► and so if everybody started vastly over reacting to some kind of shockingly dirty sexual word that reaction right if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/6676">TS</a>]
01:51:26 ◼ ► people did that consistently you could make the word forbid right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/6686">TS</a>]
01:51:32 ◼ ► You've Yeah you could do that I'm all for changing changing words like the word gay you know it really change didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/6692">TS</a>]
01:51:39 ◼ ► used from one thing to another. Yeah I know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/6699">TS</a>]
01:51:42 ◼ ► That's changed the words definitely change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/6702">TS</a>]
01:51:44 ◼ ► but I think is a great one because it's just it would demonstrate that the point and it's just so pointless. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/6704">TS</a>]
01:51:51 ◼ ► Already so pointless to do it but like I have a little bit of that reaction every time you say the word. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/6711">TS</a>]
01:51:58 ◼ ► This pod cast is but a perfect example why have you said it so many times during this recording. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/6718">TS</a>]
01:52:04 ◼ ► Precisely because every time you say it I'm creeped out this is this is going to be this is going to be my candidate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/6724">TS</a>]
01:52:12 ◼ ► for vast overreaction I was previously trying to think of something else in the closest I came up with was douche bag [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/6732">TS</a>]
01:52:18 ◼ ► might be a good candidate as well for that asked photo over reaction by people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/6738">TS</a>]
01:52:24 ◼ ► and then you can just demonstrate that you can turn a relatively mild word into some kind of terrible word thinking is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUh6SnE/6744">TS</a>]