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H.I. #42: Never and Always

 

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00:00:06   I'm going to try some more I think I've told you this but I mean as you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/6">TS</a>]

00:00:11   when I look at my office window I can see out to the Bristol Channel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/11">TS</a>]

00:00:15   and our club can see ships going by that I recently found out there's a website that is a bit like those flight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/15">TS</a>]

00:00:22   tracking websites where you can follow plans except for ships. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/22">TS</a>]

00:00:26   Loser Now whenever I see a ship I called up this Web site and I can look at what it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/26">TS</a>]

00:00:31   and what its code of merits from and stuff like that. Rico. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/31">TS</a>]

00:00:34   All of that is that is very cool nudist at a very cool if I have to say I am way more interested in that than than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/34">TS</a>]

00:00:43   planes I am obsessed with cargo containers I love cargo containers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/43">TS</a>]

00:00:50   and the idea of a gigantic ship that is filled with cargo containers is extremely interesting to me so I would be very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/50">TS</a>]

00:00:57   interested in seeing the live ship tracking Web site in a way that I would be not so interested in seeing a live [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/57">TS</a>]

00:01:04   aircraft tracking spreadsheet website even though they're almost the exact same thing if I could arrange for us to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/64">TS</a>]

00:01:11   like a trip on a cargo ship across the Atlantic would you do it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/71">TS</a>]

00:01:16   That's interesting we could see the pod cast from a container ship they take a long time though they take a long time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/76">TS</a>]

00:01:23   don't thing to get across the Atlantic I know a guy that doesn't he's a scientist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/83">TS</a>]

00:01:29   and I think the university is Dhabi and he's caught environmentally conscious and doesn't want to fly and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/89">TS</a>]

00:01:36   when in the US to go to conferences in America he goes on container ships that is way worse. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/96">TS</a>]

00:01:41   Environmentally flying on an aircraft. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/101">TS</a>]

00:01:44   Those enormous container ships put out put out on godly amounts of carbon dioxide that's being environment that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/104">TS</a>]

00:01:52   get what they doing anyway it's not like he's creating demand for them. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/112">TS</a>]

00:01:56   Yes but the plane is flying anyway this is the kind of environmental stuff that drives me crazy. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/116">TS</a>]

00:02:02   Through it like oh I'm going to help the invite. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/122">TS</a>]

00:02:04   By doing a thing that sounds better but is actually worse that kind of stuff I eat that stuff. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/124">TS</a>]

00:02:12   Like what's is alternative everybody start taking cargo ships if everybody does what he does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/132">TS</a>]

00:02:16   and the demand for cargo ships goes up and we're in a much worse situation that is just I hate that stuff. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/136">TS</a>]

00:02:24   Sorry the University of Nottingham chemistry department who are so if we see much love to me in close to my heart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/144">TS</a>]

00:02:30   beating this carbon neutral lab which is a big deal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/150">TS</a>]

00:02:33   and it's like the world class environmentally friendly building it's made of wood and things like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/153">TS</a>]

00:02:39   and it was nearly finished that nearly finished building about a year ago and there was a fire. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/159">TS</a>]

00:02:44   Aside and the whole thing bend down and having to do it again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/164">TS</a>]

00:02:47   and the amount of grief they're getting there you know people jokingly saying are carbon neutral. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/167">TS</a>]

00:02:51   You've just been burnt the whole post Echo would and so going up into the cabin to come straight back up into the sky. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/171">TS</a>]

00:02:58   But at least at least that that's accidental. That's not on purpose. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/178">TS</a>]

00:03:02   Sometimes I find some of the environmental stuff is the equivalent of intentionally burning down a carbon neutral [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/182">TS</a>]

00:03:08   building traveling on the cargo ship is is is equivalent to that to me I don't know I don't know I haven't I haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/188">TS</a>]

00:03:15   thought through the implications of what you say about the carriage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/195">TS</a>]

00:03:18   and core of tonight just I just accept what is happening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/198">TS</a>]

00:03:21   and I have I don't I am sure people it's nice it's what will hear about I may be wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/201">TS</a>]

00:03:26   but my impression is that there there are votes are there are far fewer cargo ships than you think there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/206">TS</a>]

00:03:34   but that they have an enormous carbon footprint I just thought it wasn't the carbon it's other chemicals that they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/214">TS</a>]

00:03:41   lace that bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/221">TS</a>]

00:03:42   and their carbon emissions on catastrophic it's the it's the other poisons people innocent I people are smarter than us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/222">TS</a>]

00:03:50   the Internet will know vastly more about this topic than we do just was wildly speculating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/230">TS</a>]

00:03:54   and getting off topic before we have even begun. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/234">TS</a>]

00:03:58   Yes this is a great tradition now and I'm just going to do is imposed on us because people people. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/238">TS</a>]

00:04:04   Very sensitive to have a voice is and and our emotions in at moods so people might think I sound flat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/244">TS</a>]

00:04:10   or terrible something today there has been a bereavement in my family. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/250">TS</a>]

00:04:15   This wake my father in law who was very very much loved by all of us including me. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/255">TS</a>]

00:04:21   Died this week as you know you've been really understanding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/261">TS</a>]

00:04:25   and we've had to reschedule the pod casts no sorts of things like that and it's a terror terrible loss of the family. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/265">TS</a>]

00:04:30   I won't talk too much about him on the pod cast because frankly he was a he was just a real down to earth man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/270">TS</a>]

00:04:36   and I think he was bemused by things like my job and you cheapen pod casts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/276">TS</a>]

00:04:41   and he was a he was a he was a proper man's man but he did like my work because it provides for his daughter. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/281">TS</a>]

00:04:47   So anyway. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/287">TS</a>]

00:04:48   Wrist and rest in peace today who I really really loved and I tell you what has the final week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/288">TS</a>]

00:04:54   or so with him also taught me what fabulous people the people who work in hospices and even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/294">TS</a>]

00:05:00   and people who follow me on Twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/300">TS</a>]

00:05:01   and things that are probably going to see me raising a bit of money for hospices over the next few weeks so you'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/301">TS</a>]

00:05:06   understand why. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/306">TS</a>]

00:05:09   So that said there was some uncharted found out something interesting as a result later in the week because we went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/309">TS</a>]

00:05:16   along to handle some things to do with that the death certificate. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/316">TS</a>]

00:05:19   Obviously this does paperwork and things like that when people pass away so it's this registrar's office [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/319">TS</a>]

00:05:26   and I found two really interesting things about death certificates that I didn't mind one is that all the registrars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/326">TS</a>]

00:05:33   around the country that to the Births Deaths and Marriages have special. Sure. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/333">TS</a>]

00:05:37   Inc that is supplied only to them you and I can down by the sink from the shops [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/337">TS</a>]

00:05:42   but it's the special into that use that you then stick the you know the fountain pen in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/342">TS</a>]

00:05:47   and do all the signing with presumably for sort of forensic reasons so they can say yes this was registrars Inc that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/347">TS</a>]

00:05:53   was signed with and not just at Penn from Staples. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/353">TS</a>]

00:05:58   Haha so that was interesting is that it's the it's a security feature. Yes Yeah. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/358">TS</a>]

00:06:03   Ha I believe side but the other thing that was interesting was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/363">TS</a>]

00:06:07   when we were having this to fix it printed out the registrar said how many certificates would you like because you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/367">TS</a>]

00:06:14   you need a number for dealing with all the different banks and things like that so we said enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/374">TS</a>]

00:06:20   and I think we said Protect we said Ted I think which is a bit higher than normal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/380">TS</a>]

00:06:23   but we thought well we might as we'll get a bunch. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/383">TS</a>]

00:06:26   So she pulled out this the sort of the watermarked paper from a drawer in her desk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/386">TS</a>]

00:06:32   and just put them in the printer like in the print to try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/392">TS</a>]

00:06:35   and out printed the certificates on to the special paper which she then signed with a special ink [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/395">TS</a>]

00:06:40   when I was looking at the paper which she just had a remote sitting there. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/400">TS</a>]

00:06:44   And I made some comment she could tell I was interested No they sings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/404">TS</a>]

00:06:48   and she told me that these bits of paper that I print death certificates on and Versa to focus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/408">TS</a>]

00:06:52   and things like that is also highly secure and a blank piece of that paper a blank a four piece of paper that U.K. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/412">TS</a>]

00:07:01   Death certificates [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/421">TS</a>]

00:07:02   and versatile ficus a printed on those sell for five hundred pounds on the black market a blank piece of paper. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/422">TS</a>]

00:07:11   The you the same paper for the birth certificates [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/431">TS</a>]

00:07:12   and the death certificate that recently they had changed to that I believe they used to be different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/432">TS</a>]

00:07:17   but now I think the same is not amazing life beginning and ending on a piece of paper. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/437">TS</a>]

00:07:22   Well that's a whole other thing but it is it is there is a funny sort of paperwork failing to they things isn't there. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/442">TS</a>]

00:07:30   She was telling me that one time from her office is a cipher got stolen they used to have a small Sykes that that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/450">TS</a>]

00:07:37   where able to pick up and the safe got taken taken to a local park and somehow they opened it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/457">TS</a>]

00:07:42   and I took out all the petty cash and then the police code said you want to come and get you say back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/462">TS</a>]

00:07:47   and I went got there safe and it still had reams [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/467">TS</a>]

00:07:50   and reams of this paper with five hundred pounds a shared laughter as the case of the fees not knowing what they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/470">TS</a>]

00:07:56   Exactly exactly. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/476">TS</a>]

00:07:58   Those druggies man I've got a lot to learn about the value of peace and hope those was of had egg on their face. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/478">TS</a>]

00:08:05   Heard about that anyway. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/485">TS</a>]

00:08:08   Five hundred pounds for a piece of paper it's amazing that the value of something like a birth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/488">TS</a>]

00:08:12   or death certificate on the black market. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/492">TS</a>]

00:08:14   Yes presume Presumably you're trying to create a fictional people with birth certificates I imagine they're probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/494">TS</a>]

00:08:21   using it for birth certificate or the death certificate or and to do things to do with citizenship out imagine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/501">TS</a>]

00:08:26   and things like I guess getting to live in countries not supposed to live in that's what they're what the paper for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/506">TS</a>]

00:08:33   any rushing production they go. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/513">TS</a>]

00:08:37   Interesting yeah so also as a result of that sort of it's in my family this week I haven't sort of been exercising [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/517">TS</a>]

00:08:47   and often aging out a lot and doing a lot of that sort of thing so I have abandoned my diet for the last week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/527">TS</a>]

00:08:54   and a half on back on it now Greg. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/534">TS</a>]

00:08:56   Are being have been calorie counting since yesterday again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/536">TS</a>]

00:08:59   but I did I did give myself some time off so I think that's that's more than fair. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/539">TS</a>]

00:09:05   Thank you thank you say I have I also have not weighed myself because I dare not look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/545">TS</a>]

00:09:11   but also I can't find my scales at the moment because their houses being majorly redecorated at night [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/551">TS</a>]

00:09:16   and I'm having to fill up rooms with things here there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/556">TS</a>]

00:09:19   and everywhere in Moscow I was a hidden away in an office somewhere probably under a pile of books so I am I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/559">TS</a>]

00:09:26   forfeiting my point to you. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/566">TS</a>]

00:09:29   We shared the points that I first why and I'm going to force a point I mean we couldn't we could not do weigh in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/569">TS</a>]

00:09:35   but I think that would be fair on that because you have a message vantage next time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/575">TS</a>]

00:09:38   and so I'd rather just for the point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/578">TS</a>]

00:09:40   and so here here is here's what I think we should do OK I think it's special circumstances this week that the point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/580">TS</a>]

00:09:49   doesn't count [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/589">TS</a>]

00:09:51   but I'm going to start from this point right because yes if we are we were ourselves in a month you are like a week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/591">TS</a>]

00:10:00   and a half behind if you see what I'm saying so while I have a victory this week in terms of weight loss I don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/600">TS</a>]

00:10:08   this to actually go on the on the chart was winning more points than other point I don't care why did the grass feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/608">TS</a>]

00:10:16   like it would make it more Boris if I can come back from a versatile [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/616">TS</a>]

00:10:19   and if you were able to come back from adversity and win anyway. Yeah and we can give me. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/619">TS</a>]

00:10:27   There are one point well I give I win by one point I don't want that situation. Ok called the C.R. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/627">TS</a>]

00:10:35   This is good I like this is a win win for me because I can do the epic come from behind victory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/635">TS</a>]

00:10:40   but if I got it right it doesn't matter I thought you might agree to this is an area in which it's all upside for Brady [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/640">TS</a>]

00:10:48   is going to happen side from anything to generous but you know how did you do. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/648">TS</a>]

00:10:51   I was really determine this week of of making sure that I beat you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/651">TS</a>]

00:10:57   and I was thinking Man All right this is I'm not going to I'm not going to let Brady when I'm all in on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/657">TS</a>]

00:11:02   and I've been very good with what I'm eating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/662">TS</a>]

00:11:05   and in the way of these things I lost less weight than the first time around which I didn't think I was being very good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/665">TS</a>]

00:11:11   at all so I am down two pounds which is point nine kilogram couldn't fight crime again why myself I might get the point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/671">TS</a>]

00:11:20   anyway I'm going to say when I'm gone from this guy was under those books and find it just in case. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/680">TS</a>]

00:11:28   I'm doing this for you really. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/688">TS</a>]

00:11:32   He's actually gone away now and I'm just sitting at home listening to the sounds of Brady pushing around books boxes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/692">TS</a>]

00:11:42   or other things. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/702">TS</a>]

00:11:44   I hope you do in our internet listening to just me rambling on while I wait for Brady I hope he gets a point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/704">TS</a>]

00:11:52   and genuinely do I hear hear the sound of his turning Brady giggling in the background. You know it's funny. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/712">TS</a>]

00:12:02   Hello yeah I actually just took like oh my clothes us by the way I like after I retire James often my things that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/722">TS</a>]

00:12:11   think of life as possible which means I'm guessing here my books. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/731">TS</a>]

00:12:19   Hang on I'm going to check what the previous way was you need a spreadsheet I had to make a spreadsheet for that I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/739">TS</a>]

00:12:26   New York with the going to keep track of my app does Assange. Would be so glorious if you win anyway. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/746">TS</a>]

00:12:33   Irony last point two of a kilogram. What do you think point three I lost point nine R.K. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/753">TS</a>]

00:12:38   Are the last point to say if you do when you can have your fake point an app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/758">TS</a>]

00:12:42   and I'm now sitting here pump up the sure thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/762">TS</a>]

00:12:44   and I'm going to take it on because I feel a bit exposed I go you know what yeah I would feel really uncomfortable if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/764">TS</a>]

00:12:50   we did the rest of the pod gathered you just in your box a short arms going to do a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/770">TS</a>]

00:12:53   but I'm not putting the James back on but I'm going to put a show on hanging. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/773">TS</a>]

00:12:56   Yeah at least put a shirt on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/776">TS</a>]

00:12:57   or I don't know if it doesn't matter like it doesn't make any difference to the practicalities of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/777">TS</a>]

00:13:01   but it would just feel weird to the I just didn't get it then they get dressed. Of has a good start to the show. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/781">TS</a>]

00:13:11   I'm days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/791">TS</a>]

00:13:12   and you know what even if you weren't I'm just glad to know that you are just you know like I hear those words [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/792">TS</a>]

00:13:19   and now I feel like I can relax on my replace that I've even lost why did also that's a real victory for me that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/799">TS</a>]

00:13:25   really encouraging. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/805">TS</a>]

00:13:27   My opinion on this stuff is the absolute values don't really matter now what matters is the trend line about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/807">TS</a>]

00:13:35   or that's the thing with this stuff and so I figure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/815">TS</a>]

00:13:37   and any anything that a last number even if it's a tiny last number that's still totally a win in terms of health [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/817">TS</a>]

00:13:44   and we have seen over the messages from people telling us all the things we're doing wrong and what matters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/824">TS</a>]

00:13:48   and doesn't matter but to me it's it's not even about that it's about seeing numbers that motivate you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/828">TS</a>]

00:13:55   and even if the numbers are a shame it doesn't mean anything if they motivate me to stay healthy for another wake lay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/835">TS</a>]

00:14:01   dying something for me say yeah so after after that unusual interlude. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/841">TS</a>]

00:14:10   There's been no soft been really busy in the show. Not fuck off. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/850">TS</a>]

00:14:13   Off pasted lots of little things in here but there are over. E.P.T. and I'm just going to go through them in a P.T. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/853">TS</a>]

00:14:19   Kind of way. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/859">TS</a>]

00:14:20   Yeah we have a bunch of little things to go through so my think the is this show is probably going to be follow up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/860">TS</a>]

00:14:28   heavy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/868">TS</a>]

00:14:29   but it says as a lot of little topics let's let's start going through some stuff the first thing I see here is that you. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/869">TS</a>]

00:14:35   Someone found some of the dead whale footage you were mentioning from last episode to episode where I was kind of me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/875">TS</a>]

00:14:43   because really we talked about the dead while near Adelaide and all the shock sleeting and the to risk being stupid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/883">TS</a>]

00:14:49   and I've been rightly remember saying on T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/889">TS</a>]

00:14:52   and I still have a lot of friends who work in television in Adelaide so I called one of them up. Thank you. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/892">TS</a>]

00:14:57   Even my friends at ten Eyewitness News and and if you're in if you insert a strategy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/897">TS</a>]

00:15:03   or even in Australia make sure you watch Channel Ten used this way because A has a little thank you. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/903">TS</a>]

00:15:09   Sorry to all my friends who work for Channel seven Janet and zero sum game that way. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/909">TS</a>]

00:15:17   So and I have found some to the footage where my friend found it provided to me I have made available. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/917">TS</a>]

00:15:24   Gray will link to an the bloke you can watch it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/924">TS</a>]

00:15:27   It matches my memory very well but the thing I've still not found [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/927">TS</a>]

00:15:31   and maybe it was a figment of my magination I have not found someone holding a child standing on the while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/931">TS</a>]

00:15:37   but I have found an idiot standing on the while and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/937">TS</a>]

00:15:40   and this is actually not an uncommon thing in fact it's happening at the moment of the strategy at dead while another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/940">TS</a>]

00:15:46   one happened a few years ago that people sent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/946">TS</a>]

00:15:48   but the one that I was talking about from where we wanted to show it near Adelaide I now have the footage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/948">TS</a>]

00:15:54   and I think it was from two thousand and two thousand and one or two men [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/954">TS</a>]

00:16:00   when it was anyway it was a sort of footage that normally would be able to find on your trip because it was two out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/960">TS</a>]

00:16:05   that I had got it on the subject you want to see sharks eating a dead whale. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/965">TS</a>]

00:16:11   Still think in this show noted for you not just any shock leading a day wow rattle Ajax Adelaide sharks that makes them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/971">TS</a>]

00:16:19   better you know arcs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/979">TS</a>]

00:16:21   but I'm I still am I'm still insist someone did something stupid holding a child so eventually got some more e-mails [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/981">TS</a>]

00:16:28   out of the media friends in a strata my quest is not over here you're going to track this down I'm going to get there. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/988">TS</a>]

00:16:35   All right all right now another picture that I was sent that I found interesting is this one has no Internet as a sleep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/995">TS</a>]

00:16:43   aid someone has been using hello internet. Episodes to put their baby to sleep. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1003">TS</a>]

00:16:51   If you click on the link they're the top of the show nights I have clicked this I have the latest from Jeff who has put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1011">TS</a>]

00:16:59   his young baby fifty into Slate. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1019">TS</a>]

00:17:02   Using what appears to be average society episode say Happy to help her often fall asleep to pod cast at audiobooks they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1022">TS</a>]

00:17:11   do sometimes have that effect. Yes I have I have a theory about this because I have also seen people on Twitter. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1031">TS</a>]

00:17:19   Complimenting us on our ability to help put them to sleep at night. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1039">TS</a>]

00:17:27   I totally understand that as a valuable service but we can provide to prevail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1047">TS</a>]

00:17:32   but it does always feel a bit I know people who use podcasts for the explicit purpose of falling asleep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1052">TS</a>]

00:17:40   and audiobooks and similar things. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1060">TS</a>]

00:17:43   My I don't do it myself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1063">TS</a>]

00:17:47   but my theory is that the commonality of the people I know who use podcast to fall asleep is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1067">TS</a>]

00:17:55   when they're trying to get to sleep they find that their brain is racing your brain is doing that thing where it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1075">TS</a>]

00:18:00   talking to itself about all kinds of stuff that you can't do now because you are about your in bed yet going to sleep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1080">TS</a>]

00:18:06   but your brain thinks this is an excellent time to think about all the emails that you haven't replied to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1086">TS</a>]

00:18:10   or you start thinking about taxes that happen to you it does appear at my most I my wife is big one for this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1090">TS</a>]

00:18:17   and she does use audio books in that way if she is she's a she's buzzing too much shit sometimes I just need to put an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1097">TS</a>]

00:18:23   audiobook on for ten minutes because I'm thinking about where cool a lot of work that needs to be on tomorrow in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1103">TS</a>]

00:18:28   house things. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1108">TS</a>]

00:18:30   Yeah I do that most of the time when I fall asleep that isn't the case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1110">TS</a>]

00:18:33   but it does happen every once in a while where I'm going to use the phrase of it feels like my brain is just talking to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1113">TS</a>]

00:18:39   itself you know like is just like is talking away about stuff like shut up brain shut up this is nothing you can do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1119">TS</a>]

00:18:48   about any of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1128">TS</a>]

00:18:49   and so my my theory is that pod cast an audio books the reason that they work is that they're engaging the language [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1129">TS</a>]

00:18:58   part of your brain that your brain can't talk to itself while it's listening to something else. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1138">TS</a>]

00:19:04   Yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1144">TS</a>]

00:19:04   and I think that's why pod casts are effective for helping people fall asleep there might be people drifting off into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1144">TS</a>]

00:19:09   slumber at this very moment. Yeah she wishes we enjoy Thing them a lullaby really so it's very loose. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1149">TS</a>]

00:19:17   Sweet dreams Tim dream about dying on an airplane now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1157">TS</a>]

00:19:25   but yes so that is that is that's my theory anyway that the linguistic part of your brain is getting derailed so it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1165">TS</a>]

00:19:31   can't talk to itself. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1171">TS</a>]

00:19:32   When is listening to other pockets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1172">TS</a>]

00:19:34   and I think that's why many people use pod casts an audio books as a way to fall asleep. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1174">TS</a>]

00:19:37   It makes perfect sense to me I think you're on to something you should draw a paper about a baby however. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1177">TS</a>]

00:19:43   The baby looks like it probably doesn't even have a language centre of its brain. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1183">TS</a>]

00:19:46   No I'm not I'm not good with how well babies are I'm betting this baby can't talk that probably could have gone to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1186">TS</a>]

00:19:51   sleep at the sound of a jackhammer. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1191">TS</a>]

00:19:54   Well baby the babies you can turn them off with white noise if you just play white noise for babies. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1194">TS</a>]

00:19:59   It's like a it's like and neurological shutdowns which it's magic. Supports the right to sleep. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1199">TS</a>]

00:20:05   Babysat the only people I know that doesn't mind sleeping to white noise I do sleep till I know it as well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1205">TS</a>]

00:20:10   but it doesn't put me to sleep. It's if you can take a baby and put it to sleep sometimes of white noise. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1210">TS</a>]

00:20:17   It's it's it's really interesting in fact I seem to recode sharing a hotel room with someone who really shares hotel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1217">TS</a>]

00:20:24   rooms who likes to use white noise to go to sleep. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1224">TS</a>]

00:20:28   Asa Schiavo saying keep you thought it was cute that I meant white noise you are asleep you like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1228">TS</a>]

00:20:34   and it will tell you that you feel like a little tiny baby. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1234">TS</a>]

00:20:37   If if that's if that's what you want to that's how he want to think about it if we did share a hotel room. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1237">TS</a>]

00:20:43   Many years ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1243">TS</a>]

00:20:44   when we knew each other far less well you'd never do it now I was a that was a long time ago in San Francisco for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1244">TS</a>]

00:20:52   to believe you come I believe see we couldn't do it now because now that I know you better I would feel more empowered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1252">TS</a>]

00:20:58   and to write things on your face with a Sharpie while you're asleep. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1258">TS</a>]

00:21:01   That's exactly it because we're better friends now I could actually trust you less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1261">TS</a>]

00:21:07   but we were much more like strangers you have you have the social contract still holding things together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1267">TS</a>]

00:21:15   but now that's just out the window. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1275">TS</a>]

00:21:17   I'd you know I'd wake up with something indecent drawn on my food there you've got a lot you need to look yourself in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1277">TS</a>]

00:21:23   room now. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1283">TS</a>]

00:21:26   Now I seem to have struck a nerve of some people with my talk about saying that Explorers don't really exist anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1286">TS</a>]

00:21:35   except as a T.V. Job right like a tight with people on T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1295">TS</a>]

00:21:40   Come so yes I'm sorry everyone I was being a little bit general and the people of Puerto there use exceptions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1300">TS</a>]

00:21:48   and gas emissions in semantics and. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1308">TS</a>]

00:21:52   Anyway what is OK right I'll let you go I feel that you've got more to say about this than me. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1312">TS</a>]

00:21:56   Someone chew Cannery Row in the read it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1316">TS</a>]

00:22:01   Gave a definition that I thought was a really good one I don't know this is original to them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1321">TS</a>]

00:22:05   or football from somewhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1325">TS</a>]

00:22:06   but the thing that they wrote is an Explorer is someone who travel somewhere possibly not known [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1326">TS</a>]

00:22:14   when they set out with poor expectations of what it will be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1334">TS</a>]

00:22:19   when they get there with a poor idea of how they will survive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1339">TS</a>]

00:22:24   and without being able to contact anyone that can help them I don't know if that's perfect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1344">TS</a>]

00:22:31   but I thought that's a like this captures a lot of the things that I think in my mind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1351">TS</a>]

00:22:37   when I'm thinking about an explorer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1357">TS</a>]

00:22:38   and particularly that last part about not being able to contact people who can help you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1358">TS</a>]

00:22:46   and then the first part of not having a good expectation of what the place will be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1366">TS</a>]

00:22:51   when you get there that to me is the idea like that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1371">TS</a>]

00:22:54   That's what exploring is if you know what it's going to be like before you get there I'm not sure if counts as an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1374">TS</a>]

00:23:02   explorer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1382">TS</a>]

00:23:03   and the the example that I want to bring up here is someone sent a link to this guy who discovers a new rivers that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1383">TS</a>]

00:23:12   goes into the forest and discovers new rivers that nobody's charted before him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1392">TS</a>]

00:23:16   and it's like Well as you know you like is this person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1396">TS</a>]

00:23:20   and explore it's sort of I couldn't quite figure out why in my mind I thought I don't feel like this really counts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1400">TS</a>]

00:23:27   and to me it's that first part of the the expectations. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1407">TS</a>]

00:23:32   You know what the force is going to be like It's not like a surprise when you find a river [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1412">TS</a>]

00:23:37   and go This river is unlike any other river we've ever seen before. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1417">TS</a>]

00:23:39   It's purple you know that's not you know what a river in the force is going to be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1419">TS</a>]

00:23:46   and the person probably has abilities to get in contact with people who want to help them I think if you're going down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1426">TS</a>]

00:23:53   a river that no human has ever gone down before you are an explorer. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1433">TS</a>]

00:23:59   You are an explorer I read an excellent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1439">TS</a>]

00:24:02   and terrifying book a while back called The River of Doubt which was about Teddy Roosevelt's expedition in Brazil. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1442">TS</a>]

00:24:10   Along what was called the The Rio de Dieu be at the time which was then given the the vastly inferior name River [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1450">TS</a>]

00:24:16   Roosevelt after he went there. Come on man. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1456">TS</a>]

00:24:19   Like River of Doubt is such an awesome name you know the Roosevelt river is snow boring falling asleep even saying it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1459">TS</a>]

00:24:28   was a River of Doubt sounds like a a chapter and getting things down if you are in that time of Teddy Roosevelt's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1468">TS</a>]

00:24:37   and you are doing an explanation because it was looking it up. When was it the so that's right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1477">TS</a>]

00:24:44   This was after his failed reelection campaign as the Bull Moose Kennedy in one thousand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1484">TS</a>]

00:24:50   and twelve so I think if you are coming into Darkest Brazil in nineteen twelve. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1490">TS</a>]

00:24:56   Along a river that nobody has any idea what all its tributaries are I'm going to count that as an explorer. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1496">TS</a>]

00:25:04   Yeah I think in two thousand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1504">TS</a>]

00:25:05   and fifteen if you're still finding Rivers I don't think it's it's a remotely comparable situation on not girl does too. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1505">TS</a>]

00:25:12   Yeah I think it's hard to carve out a nation. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1512">TS</a>]

00:25:14   Oh I thought so I think it is a bit like Oh that little tiny river there now in Linda but yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1514">TS</a>]

00:25:20   and I hear here's my question to you the example many people brought up is deep sea divers What are your thoughts on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1520">TS</a>]

00:25:29   deep sea divers being explores Yeah I think there is a degree of exploration going on there I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1529">TS</a>]

00:25:36   when someone jumps in one of those mini submarines and goes to the bottom of the trench [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1536">TS</a>]

00:25:42   and they're exploring that's exploring your Explorer I think even James Cameron was an explorer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1542">TS</a>]

00:25:48   when he went down to the bottom of the Pacific [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1548">TS</a>]

00:25:50   and I was in the first of the I think that was exploring I agree completely that was the best counter example of deep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1550">TS</a>]

00:25:57   sea divers you still are deserving of the term explore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1557">TS</a>]

00:26:00   and even though you probably don't have sort of people in caves to a lot of people doing stuff in case I think can can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1560">TS</a>]

00:26:06   also get away with calling themselves explore us that cave stuff is terrifying that they are the people who explore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1566">TS</a>]

00:26:15   those those deep caves that stuff is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1575">TS</a>]

00:26:19   when I I care where heard I heard somebody gas talking about an interview with the people who've gone down to one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1579">TS</a>]

00:26:25   the deepest caves in the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1585">TS</a>]

00:26:28   and it's just just terrifying terrifying just in in the total darkness off I'm not one hundred percent sure I count [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1588">TS</a>]

00:26:36   that as exploring but that's that's close I thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1596">TS</a>]

00:26:39   but I'm going to say deep sea divers are on ambiguously modern exploring using the definition that you gave a moment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1599">TS</a>]

00:26:47   ago what do you say about the astronauts who landed on the man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1607">TS</a>]

00:26:50   and I can ANY what to expect to a fuck if they didn't really they could communicate with people that could help them. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1610">TS</a>]

00:26:57   Although not physically. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1617">TS</a>]

00:27:00   Yeah I mean does it matter there are unquestionably explorers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1620">TS</a>]

00:27:03   but that definition doesn't help on the whole are it doesn't help them a whole lot it's my mind's rubbing up against [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1623">TS</a>]

00:27:09   something with that's not going to the moon I'm going to I'm going to give it to them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1629">TS</a>]

00:27:14   but I feel like there's something something in my brain is is is going against us for ever so slightly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1634">TS</a>]

00:27:22   but you know I think maybe the thing about the contact is even here going to the moon the people on the ground can help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1642">TS</a>]

00:27:30   you but maybe not out of all kinds of situation a lot of the time the hope is just saying it was nice knowing you. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1650">TS</a>]

00:27:38   Except for the scene in Apollo thirteen which the like my favorite movie scene ever of we have to make we have to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1658">TS</a>]

00:27:45   this to go into this this port with only using these materials that this is probably one the best movie. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1665">TS</a>]

00:27:52   Surely your favorite saying in Apollo thirteen is when Gary Sinise spends hours and hours [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1672">TS</a>]

00:27:56   and I was trying to please check list in the correct order I don't I don't remember the members I had to power up the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1676">TS</a>]

00:28:02   LEM that I had to do it in a certain order so they didn't go over a certain vote each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1682">TS</a>]

00:28:06   and I had to kick were heavily vs. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1686">TS</a>]

00:28:09   Yes yes I do remember that I do remember that now the scene are trying to connect they were trying to connect the air [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1689">TS</a>]

00:28:15   input to the oxygen scrubbers I think that there was no now they had to get the rug they had the wrong shape. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1695">TS</a>]

00:28:20   See eye to scrub or they had and they had to make a scrub or of a different shape fit a different whole basic rights [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1700">TS</a>]

00:28:29   but I don't know there's something that Vista really gets me about that is dumping the materials on the table [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1709">TS</a>]

00:28:34   and say OK we have a problem there's a limited domain here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1714">TS</a>]

00:28:37   and we have a limited amount of time that we need a bunches lard engineers to figure it out that's the kind of help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1717">TS</a>]

00:28:43   that they can give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1723">TS</a>]

00:28:44   but it's it's it's very different from you know you missed the moon you're going to fly off into deep space [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1724">TS</a>]

00:28:49   and just die well sorry so exciting news. Gray has given me the password for the hello internet. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1729">TS</a>]

00:28:58   Patriarch account which means I can have postings into a picture on fate which I think you see even more bang for your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1738">TS</a>]

00:29:05   buck if you are supporting Hello winter no patron. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1745">TS</a>]

00:29:09   Because I feel like you could give more love than you gave that is definitely true. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1749">TS</a>]

00:29:14   I could give more love than I give the page on feed so now I will endeavour to also go in there occasionally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1754">TS</a>]

00:29:19   and give people a few little behind the Saints. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1759">TS</a>]

00:29:21   Pictures [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1761">TS</a>]

00:29:21   and nuggets as a small thank you for those people who give just that little bit extra to help make this podcast possible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1761">TS</a>]

00:29:29   yes thank you to all of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1769">TS</a>]

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00:29:37   Have you got any kind of rules I mean you gave me the password very very without any kind of conditions is there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1777">TS</a>]

00:29:43   anything I'm not allowed to do with it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1783">TS</a>]

00:29:45   I I trust you entirely with this with this thing you are you are free is a bird. Thank you John. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1785">TS</a>]

00:29:55   So state your name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1795">TS</a>]

00:29:56   or if you're one of these people who is is following it in that way as well stay tuned as I am leash the power as Brady [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1796">TS</a>]

00:30:05   shows you his love I won't be posting any pictures of me doing my way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1805">TS</a>]

00:30:08   and earlier internets ready for that it would be amazing it would be hit would be quite a sight so I had a realisation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1808">TS</a>]

00:30:19   the other day as you know I had two copies of getting things down I had a hard copy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1819">TS</a>]

00:30:26   and I had a on my old Apple as an audiobook was on my side. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1826">TS</a>]

00:30:31   So some people may not be aware of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1831">TS</a>]

00:30:33   but I I sold my have copy on e Bay Yup the one with my notes scribble over it was purchased by how Internet listener it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1833">TS</a>]

00:30:42   was signed by you and I. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1842">TS</a>]

00:30:44   Yeah you sent it to me to sign and then to hand on to the lucky winner of that auction I hate to admit it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1844">TS</a>]

00:30:50   but I actually tend to turn a profit on that book the the funds will be reinvested into the purchasing of toys which I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1850">TS</a>]

00:31:00   filmed for at how Internet videos. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1860">TS</a>]

00:31:03   Let me be me I put them on a cheap so that in fact it's already being spent on various. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1863">TS</a>]

00:31:08   and nine tories from toy shops around the U.K. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1868">TS</a>]

00:31:11   And I had a sudden realisation older people say is it claims that if you are not completely satisfied with your your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1871">TS</a>]

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00:31:26   I'm just go ahead doesn't return them I don't go back to the shop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1886">TS</a>]

00:31:28   and asked my money back I just put things in a shelf [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1888">TS</a>]

00:31:30   and never asked my money back that I decided I was going to put this to the test. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1890">TS</a>]

00:31:36   Do they really give you money back if you know happy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1896">TS</a>]

00:31:38   and it's a really difficult process where you have to navigate through a field of alligators [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1898">TS</a>]

00:31:43   and things like that can do that very very easily I was went online I picked a box set I didn't walk got my credit back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1903">TS</a>]

00:31:53   straightaway. Bought another book. Brilliant. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1913">TS</a>]

00:31:57   So I now feel like I have not lost out as a result of buying those books which I did not you are a net win on getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1917">TS</a>]

00:32:07   things done. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1927">TS</a>]

00:32:08   Well I was anyway well I'll never get that time back that I spent reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1928">TS</a>]

00:32:12   and listening to her that I like to think it gave us some good poker asked Father [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1932">TS</a>]

00:32:16   but it's still hours of my life that I've gone. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1936">TS</a>]

00:32:19   Yes it is it is still hours of your life that's gone although it is our our most popular hard cast episode so far at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1939">TS</a>]

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00:32:32   when of your great dislike of getting things done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1952">TS</a>]

00:32:36   and yes you're right it is this is not an audible advertisement I don't actually know if sponsors for the show I never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1956">TS</a>]

00:32:41   know we record these things but yeah I've done that a couple times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1961">TS</a>]

00:32:44   and I that is one of the things I really like is because I listen mostly to non-fiction stuff and. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1964">TS</a>]

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00:32:58   and so I have returned quite a few audio books with with a policy so I had a plea I appreciate it because all your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1978">TS</a>]

00:33:06   books are not always super jeep so being able to return one that Scrappy is great I have another e-mail from a listener [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/1986">TS</a>]

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00:33:21   like to pick at the points where they praise name particular years of the best part yeah every week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/2001">TS</a>]

00:33:27   and because it was it was written to me this is this is someone that should have been written to you as well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/2007">TS</a>]

00:33:31   but this is one of those people who realize I would be wasting their time writing to you know I have basically not even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/2011">TS</a>]

00:33:37   opened my e-mail in the last week and a half. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/2017">TS</a>]

00:33:41   Help me going to have in fact one part that praise me hearing that I quite liked was I have this number of our video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/2021">TS</a>]

00:33:47   that a lot of people I might be familiar with but great you probably are. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/2027">TS</a>]

00:33:51   Which is all about what happens if you add all the numbers together one place to post for a possible to solve the lever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/2031">TS</a>]

00:33:56   and actually comes to minus a twelve depending on depending on various interpretations. Quite controversial video. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/2036">TS</a>]

00:34:02   Yeah we talked about that one of the yeah a while back so anyway I could watch her to talked about how he was recently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/2042">TS</a>]

00:34:07   at a job interview and was asked to tell the interviewer what is the most interesting fact you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/2047">TS</a>]

00:34:12   and he immediately told him that fact and the interviewer was blown away and offered him the job. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/2052">TS</a>]

00:34:19   So that's the path that praises me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/2059">TS</a>]

00:34:21   but that's not really want to tell you about the path it is interesting to both of us. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/2061">TS</a>]

00:34:25   Says lastly before I let you go I know this is a long shot that both you and C.G. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/2065">TS</a>]

00:34:31   Pay and your wives a quarterly invited to my upcoming awaiting to my fiance she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/2071">TS</a>]

00:34:36   and I would love to have the stars of hell or Internet at our wedding it is the weekend of April second in Chicago. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/2076">TS</a>]

00:34:43   See G.P. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/2083">TS</a>]

00:34:44   Can do with the jetlag Oh yeah you're going to go Brady [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/2084">TS</a>]

00:34:50   but I'll go if you go now I dry naive through breed I'll tell you working the thing stopping me going cut at a two year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/2090">TS</a>]

00:35:02   waiting and I thought your email was brilliant and you sound like an awesome person is not distance or jet lag [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/2102">TS</a>]

00:35:11   or even necessarily plane tickets without him. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/2111">TS</a>]

00:35:14   Pensacola into gets the things don't get me going is how or quit it would be being at that wedding. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/2114">TS</a>]

00:35:19   After about eight seconds. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/2119">TS</a>]

00:35:22   Lie because Carter I've been to a wedding of my own and you have a lot to do and a lot of things in your mind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/2122">TS</a>]

00:35:30   and it's going to be the best out of your life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/2130">TS</a>]

00:35:32   and talking to someone who does a podcast you listen to is going to be very very minor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/2132">TS</a>]

00:35:36   and that will be like a five second thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/2136">TS</a>]

00:35:38   and the rest of the time on their arms going to be standing around fail knowledge of an idiot. Yeah weddings. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/2138">TS</a>]

00:35:47   Weddings are strange events at tending weddings is weird going to other people's weddings are weird they're just being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/2147">TS</a>]

00:35:58   at a wedding where you are not where you don't really know the people getting married because I've done this numerous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/2158">TS</a>]

00:36:02   times because our films in weddings but oh say it just happens sometimes is is a pretty or could experience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/2162">TS</a>]

00:36:08   and I think this will affect or could this to a whole other level so I don't I don't think are good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/2168">TS</a>]

00:36:13   but I do wish Carter and his fiance the best and I hope they have an incredible wedding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/2173">TS</a>]

00:36:17   and I hope he sends us a picture and if you send us a picture from the wedding I'll put it on the Patriot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/2177">TS</a>]

00:36:22   and fade there we go I feel the same way I hope the wedding goes well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/2182">TS</a>]

00:36:29   but I will not be with us before I disregard go for a wedding it's really kind of very kind I once went to a party it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/2189">TS</a>]

00:36:38   was in a I was in Adelaide where I was living [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/2198">TS</a>]

00:36:40   and the same of the party was at Lady had to do something sort of typically or I conduct the Adelaide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/2200">TS</a>]

00:36:45   and everyone had a demand wished on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/2205">TS</a>]

00:36:46   or are you adélie be in love you're Adelaide to characterize So anyway one of the guys had a prior idea which was to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/2206">TS</a>]

00:36:55   invite do you call them a pastor yet you know what a pastor is doing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/2215">TS</a>]

00:37:00   Yeah as a tremendous in them the underground like a street performer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/2220">TS</a>]

00:37:04   and there was this one guy in Adelaide he he was a bit strange he was just he was an odd character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/2224">TS</a>]

00:37:11   and he also had all about dress sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/2231">TS</a>]

00:37:14   and odd Hi Jane I mean in hindsight probably wasn't particularly well anyway he was a basket [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/2234">TS</a>]

00:37:21   and he used to do with performances on the harmonica or or something like that or on a little in that organ [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/2241">TS</a>]

00:37:26   and things and the guy organizing the party photo would be a bright idea to approach him in the street [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/2246">TS</a>]

00:37:31   and invite him to this party which was just a party in a house. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/2251">TS</a>]

00:37:36   So we all turned and there was this guy playing is a music in the corner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/2256">TS</a>]

00:37:40   and I was like oh my goodness it's amazing it's an Adelaide legend it's very you know he's like a piece of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/2260">TS</a>]

00:37:44   furniture in the streets vet right here is a party and we all thought it was great and you get a few songs for us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/2264">TS</a>]

00:37:49   and we gave him a clap and it was brilliant. And then he was just standing there in the room with light. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/2269">TS</a>]

00:37:56   Twenty thirty other people and it was really really or could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/2276">TS</a>]

00:38:00   and no one no one knew him so no one really knew that we talked and say hello [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/2280">TS</a>]

00:38:04   but it was it became really really difficult [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/2284">TS</a>]

00:38:06   and I think the guy organizing the party in hindsight realized this was something that seems like a good idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/2286">TS</a>]

00:38:12   and then afterwards had created a really awkward social situation I think that's what cat it would would think later on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/2292">TS</a>]

00:38:19   if he had if we turned up to his wedding. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/2299">TS</a>]

00:38:22   Yeah that's the that's exactly right there like gods Brady in C G P I love I love your podcast I sometimes focus later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/2302">TS</a>]

00:38:29   and Russia care hands and then like two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/2309">TS</a>]

00:38:31   or three minutes later people would be coming up whispering to him saying catechist can us they take us to leave now. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/2311">TS</a>]

00:38:37   Jack Exactly exactly and I can imagine that situation which would be awkward all around for her. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/2317">TS</a>]

00:38:43   Everybody by the fact the wedding is in Chicago is a lovely excuse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/2323">TS</a>]

00:38:48   but I can say they have the wedding was downstairs in my own building I was does our I'm sorry I can't possibly make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/2328">TS</a>]

00:38:54   any way thank you for the invasion. Yeah good luck with the weather. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/2334">TS</a>]

00:38:57   Yes someone sent a fascinating picture to us which was of Buzz Aldrin obviously a man of some interest to me. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/2337">TS</a>]

00:39:04   Selection manner set foot on the well known as a brand ambassador for the I make a spade master on surprisingly says he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/2344">TS</a>]

00:39:14   was the first man to wear to make spade master on the moon because neon of course didn't wear his. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/2354">TS</a>]

00:39:20   And it was a picture of Buzz Aldrin posing with a child [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/2360">TS</a>]

00:39:23   or something like that of some publicity event he's wearing what appears to be an Amiga watch probably space master on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/2363">TS</a>]

00:39:30   his frock tanned and on his left hand and watch. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/2370">TS</a>]

00:39:36   Yep yep you sent me this picture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/2376">TS</a>]

00:39:38   and it is definitely an apple watch on his other hand you weren't sure which I found surprising because I thought that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/2378">TS</a>]

00:39:45   you found that there was in their cold dead faces were were distracting to you or you don't like them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/2385">TS</a>]

00:39:52   but yes he is wearing an apple I was out of his quiet small thing in the photo it's not like it's a big zoomed in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/2392">TS</a>]

00:39:57   picture I don't know what an abortion and he's wearing lots of things on his wrists. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/2397">TS</a>]

00:40:02   I was pretty sure it was an apple watch the movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/2402">TS</a>]

00:40:05   or why didn't we make a joke about you wearing two watches a couple pod casts ago I can't quite remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/2405">TS</a>]

00:40:10   and now here is one of your idols. Sporting to watch I wouldn't code does ocean one of models. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/2410">TS</a>]

00:40:17   OK I'm sorry sir please Ari you know. Oh got serious dollars on here. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/2417">TS</a>]

00:40:25   So some of it I'm not going to go there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/2425">TS</a>]

00:40:27   but kids I could tell the other thing that's interesting though is on the hand where he's wearing they make it it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/2427">TS</a>]

00:40:34   almost appears as though he's wearing and I'm with two different watches like it's one band [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/2434">TS</a>]

00:40:41   but it seems to have two watches attached to it not like yes like he's inserted two watches on to the one that yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/2441">TS</a>]

00:40:49   was doomed in on this and I sent this to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/2449">TS</a>]

00:40:51   and it definitely looks like he has one band with two Amiga speed Masters on it so that one one faces on his wrist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/2451">TS</a>]

00:41:00   and that one faces on the top of his on the top of his are sorry yes it looks like one faces on the inside of his wrist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/2460">TS</a>]

00:41:07   and then one face is on the top of his wrist he's either man who wears a lot of stuff on his wrists he says he's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/2467">TS</a>]

00:41:13   eccentric character as Ochoa it a he to he did it he was part of the great thing is it a great thing that he remains [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/2473">TS</a>]

00:41:22   one of a kind. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/2482">TS</a>]

00:41:23   Her So what do you think about him wearing two maybe three watches Well what is your what is your thought on the likely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/2483">TS</a>]

00:41:31   think I think. I am going to guess that you did the proof of that. Yes of course it is excluded. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/2491">TS</a>]

00:41:42   Anything that looks ridiculous that the Apple Watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/2502">TS</a>]

00:41:44   and that makes be master yet you don't think this is in your future at some point rate I think wearing an apple orchard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/2504">TS</a>]

00:41:49   it's ridiculous for starters he well know are right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/2509">TS</a>]

00:41:53   and I think having two space matters on one band is cut it ridiculous like he's managing to go ridiculous both ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/2513">TS</a>]

00:42:01   it's not a look I would go for but I would if it meant being in a space craft with Neil Armstrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/2521">TS</a>]

00:42:08   when I landed on the moon I would wear to work as if that was the price I had to pay to have done that achievement I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/2528">TS</a>]

00:42:16   would do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/2536">TS</a>]

00:42:17   but I don't even give a I don't think it's necessary to where essentially three watches on your wrist to of done that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/2537">TS</a>]

00:42:23   think he's doing a voluntarily he might be starting a trend though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/2543">TS</a>]

00:42:27   and there might be starting in jail give me around I can see it because like we said he kind of have to wear their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/2547">TS</a>]

00:42:34   porch or betime to get the maximum value from a an airport in does have its good points [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/2554">TS</a>]

00:42:39   but I think it is going to make a decision and stick with it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/2559">TS</a>]

00:42:43   You either tell you are there at your other top this new silly future or really classy man of the past. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/2563">TS</a>]

00:42:51   Which which Where you going with that theory what's on your wrist right now. Classy man of the past. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/2571">TS</a>]

00:42:57   Actually no there is no watch on my wrist at the moment I actually just went back to the state master a couple of days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/2577">TS</a>]

00:43:03   ago that I took it off to the pub cost because I didn't want to risk it tapping on the desk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/2583">TS</a>]

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00:57:44   and they show you to match reports from a game of baseball the thing that the people doing the double blind tests don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/3464">TS</a>]

00:57:51   have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/3471">TS</a>]

00:57:51   and didn't do was go to the game so it's very hard to know how good a report of the game it is if you didn't also see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/3471">TS</a>]

00:58:01   the game. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/3481">TS</a>]

00:58:03   For example say I went to a game so I went to the Yankees versus the Red Sox and the Yankees won three toes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/3483">TS</a>]

00:58:09   and so I'm sorry hit a homerun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/3489">TS</a>]

00:58:11   and there was a double And this picture had this record believe the journalist who wasn't at the game. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/3491">TS</a>]

00:58:17   Could write a report and the computer could write a report and maybe someone couldn't tell the difference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/3497">TS</a>]

00:58:24   but what if halfway through the game. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/3504">TS</a>]

00:58:27   Derek Jeter stood on second base and took off his trailers and painted his legs pink and started doing cartwheels. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/3507">TS</a>]

00:58:37   That's not going to be in the box score that's not going to be anywhere so the complain the computer writes the report [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/3517">TS</a>]

00:58:44   of all the noteworthy things that happened during the game that's going to be completely emitted someone who's actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/3524">TS</a>]

00:58:49   at the game I think they're probably going to start their report with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/3529">TS</a>]

00:58:53   and get very little to the actual score of the game because it was such a remarkable thing that happened that that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/3533">TS</a>]

00:58:59   what needs to be reported on and that's an extreme example but what I'm thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/3539">TS</a>]

00:59:04   but I just think the computers in the algorithm sometimes you know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/3544">TS</a>]

00:59:08   Missed the wood for the trees [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/3548">TS</a>]

00:59:10   or whatever you want to COLA I can't they won't they don't really know what's interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/3550">TS</a>]

00:59:14   and sometimes you can't be taught what's interesting because the thing that's interesting is something that's never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/3554">TS</a>]

00:59:19   been seen before and that's that's the think the value of reporting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/3559">TS</a>]

00:59:24   and you know they can't a computer would never know what the emotion of the crowd was with the computer can't know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/3564">TS</a>]

00:59:30   noise the crowd made when Alex Rodriguez came out to back to die though him did they need him. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/3570">TS</a>]

00:59:37   Did they start off doing him but then she him when he hit a home run all the subtleties [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/3577">TS</a>]

00:59:42   and things that matter to him and saw a very hard to pick up with a computer. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/3582">TS</a>]

00:59:48   Oh yeah and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/3588">TS</a>]

00:59:50   when I talk about this stuff like I completely agree with you that in in very very many domains the best human is still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/3590">TS</a>]

01:00:01   always going to be able to crush the computer today I think that's that's no there's no doubt about it like I could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/3601">TS</a>]

01:00:08   send Brady to a cricket game and I can send an algorithm to the cricket game and Brady is going to write a way better. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/3608">TS</a>]

01:00:14   Article about that trick again the computer possibly can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/3614">TS</a>]

01:00:18   but at the end think that this all of this stuff is we're looking at we're looking at the toddler version of of what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/3618">TS</a>]

01:00:26   these computers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/3626">TS</a>]

01:00:27   and these algorithms can do I don't doubt that at some point in the future you could feed just the straight video of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/3627">TS</a>]

01:00:37   computer game of a you could feed just a straight video of a sports game to a computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/3637">TS</a>]

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01:00:51   know that humans can do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/3651">TS</a>]

01:00:53   and unless unless you think that there's something magically different about the human brain I think anything that a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/3653">TS</a>]

01:01:00   human can do a computer algorithm will eventually be able to do with some point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/3660">TS</a>]

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01:01:17   when I was reporting some time something would happen like a tragedy. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/3677">TS</a>]

01:01:22   I remember really Patrick to do it's happening and a little boy has employed died [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/3682">TS</a>]

01:01:29   and I had to rush story about a sense the family let me come to the house and sit in the room with them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/3689">TS</a>]

01:01:37   and talk to them for a couple of hours and a lot of things happened in that room and that Khaled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/3697">TS</a>]

01:01:44   and painted the why the Irish story about the tragedy of this boy die and I just can't say in the next hundreds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/3704">TS</a>]

01:01:55   and hundreds of years that a computer could of. Got from that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/3715">TS</a>]

01:02:01   Well I got from a conscious Conseco and I know they're going to get good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/3721">TS</a>]

01:02:07   but I just can't say a computer thinking to ask the things that I would have asked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/3727">TS</a>]

01:02:11   and looked at the places I would have looked and taken in the subtleties I took in and maybe one day they will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/3731">TS</a>]

01:02:18   and who sang maybe I was pretty ham fisted and didn't write the final story very well. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/3738">TS</a>]

01:02:22   Anyway but that I just can't say I cannot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/3742">TS</a>]

01:02:25   but I can I carry a ARE can raid if I want to know is who won the by spoke I I didn't care for it was written by some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/3745">TS</a>]

01:02:32   seventeen year old intern watching on T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/3752">TS</a>]

01:02:35   or An algorithm and if the algorithms of the cheaper for the nice Everest than I care I knew what the score anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/3755">TS</a>]

01:02:41   but I just can't see general spec replaced by computers. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/3761">TS</a>]

01:02:44   Journalist went to replace by computers before certainly before airline pilots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/3764">TS</a>]

01:02:49   and things like that because there's just things computers can do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/3769">TS</a>]

01:02:52   and the human brain is quite unique in some of those abilities in my opinion. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/3772">TS</a>]

01:02:57   Oh yeah well the unique part is a bit different. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/3777">TS</a>]

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01:04:08   human that can be more empathetic than a human could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/3848">TS</a>]

01:04:12   but at that point you're talking about just science fiction kind of futures [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/3852">TS</a>]

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01:04:40   of humans see that's And this is this is where we just have a fundamental disagreement if you believe in magic I can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/3880">TS</a>]

01:04:48   on argue with you I don't have any magic is in Harry Costa I mean something I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/3888">TS</a>]

01:04:55   but do you mean magic as in something that is outside of the physical constraints of the universe. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/3895">TS</a>]

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01:05:22   I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/3922">TS</a>]

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01:05:32   neurons and electrical connections and you can reproduce that inside a computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/3932">TS</a>]

01:05:38   and so that to me is why I can get to the argument of if you can simulate a human brain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/3938">TS</a>]

01:05:43   and there is a human brain simulation project that the European Union is working on right now. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/3943">TS</a>]

01:05:49   If you can do that then then it's at some stage it's game over for humans physical meat based humans being the best at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/3949">TS</a>]

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01:06:19   Creative work that is you know it's singular in a way there's no reason that my brain couldn't be perfectly simulated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/3979">TS</a>]

01:06:29   or that you couldn't just like the stuff that I used to do with with genetic algorithms back in my university days of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/3989">TS</a>]

01:06:37   princes this this has like vast a moral and ethical implications [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/3997">TS</a>]

01:06:41   but just go with me for a second you can do that kind of thing where you spontaneously create ten thousand simulated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4001">TS</a>]

01:06:48   human brains and have them produce artwork and see how other simulated brains react to them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4008">TS</a>]

01:06:54   and you could create amazing works of art that humans would find better than anything that has ever been created [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4014">TS</a>]

01:07:01   because you know what gets reactions out of people and that's why I think all of this is a Venn chili at some point. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4021">TS</a>]

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01:07:31   and created a simulated to do talking with I went to do today which is to max talking in talking to each other in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4051">TS</a>]

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01:08:02   but if you're Can I imagine a pod cast that is between two computers talking to each other being better than than our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4082">TS</a>]

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01:08:18   be entertained I listen to podcasts because I like the personalities of the people who are talking even if I don't care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4098">TS</a>]

01:08:25   what they're talking about movie set personalities that's interesting I didn't think it say that bit because that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4105">TS</a>]

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01:08:31   Yeah but that's entirely true there are several pod casts where I don't care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4111">TS</a>]

01:08:36   or even understand what the people are talking about sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4116">TS</a>]

01:08:39   but I listen because I like the personality of the person talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4119">TS</a>]

01:08:43   but it ultimately comes down to me that my personality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4123">TS</a>]

01:08:47   and your personality are the result of neurons firing in a particular order in a sequence in our brains [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4127">TS</a>]

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01:09:05   boy synthesis that gets good enough because I just don't think that there's anything special about the brain like my my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4145">TS</a>]

01:09:11   personality is the way it is because of the neurons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4151">TS</a>]

01:09:14   and the order that they're connected in my mind it's not it's not magic there is that that's what I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4154">TS</a>]

01:09:20   when I say magic is some kind of other not reproducible thing and and that's what that's what I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4160">TS</a>]

01:09:27   but it does the free will at the other it does the does the fact people are listening to us now that we're doing this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4167">TS</a>]

01:09:32   by free will. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4172">TS</a>]

01:09:34   Add to their pleasure because let me Are you let me ask you Are you trying to are you trying to provoke a you go ahead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4174">TS</a>]

01:09:41   of me ask you this guy this is a purely hypothetical question. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4181">TS</a>]

01:09:45   And therefore you should feel safe on sharing it because this technology does not exist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4185">TS</a>]

01:09:49   and will not exist now last time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4189">TS</a>]

01:09:52   but if the technology did exist for there to be really really good simulated human beings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4192">TS</a>]

01:09:58   and customized to your every whim. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4198">TS</a>]

01:10:02   Would you be happier with the robot was then with your wife could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4202">TS</a>]

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01:10:20   Rule [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4220">TS</a>]

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01:10:31   you know I can imagine computer simulations taking off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4231">TS</a>]

01:10:35   and having a holodeck like situation so again it to me this just always comes down to first principles of if you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4235">TS</a>]

01:10:49   completely simulate a human mind. There's there's nothing that humans do that you can't do better. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4249">TS</a>]

01:10:56   Ultimately with machines and the the the the holodeck thing about you know if a holodeck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4256">TS</a>]

01:11:06   or virtual reality exists in some ways I'm pretty convinced that let that is a that is an end of of civilization moment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4266">TS</a>]

01:11:16   and you know the Fermi paradox I don't have the right yes I think it's I am I think I have a name right off of that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4276">TS</a>]

01:11:23   from an retired Rico Femi. Yeah it is it is a question about Why haven't we been visited by aliens are that you can. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4283">TS</a>]

01:11:35   You can run a calculation that basically says you know no matter how low you think the probability of intelligent life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4295">TS</a>]

01:11:42   developing is the number of stars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4302">TS</a>]

01:11:45   and the number of planets is so astronomical that there has to be intelligent life elsewhere in the universe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4305">TS</a>]

01:11:51   and I go along with that hypothesis like I believe in aliens not that they have visited the earth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4311">TS</a>]

01:11:56   but I believe that there are there is intelligent life elsewhere in the universe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4316">TS</a>]

01:12:01   but the paradox is that if there is intelligent life you can also run the numbers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4321">TS</a>]

01:12:05   and say that we are probably a little later to the civilizations Dave's than other people so why haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4325">TS</a>]

01:12:12   and Liam's actually visited our of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4332">TS</a>]

01:12:15   or why haven't we found any messages from Aliens this is the Fermi paradox is why does it seem like there are fewer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4335">TS</a>]

01:12:21   Allianz then everything that we know about science tells us there should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4341">TS</a>]

01:12:28   and there are many there are many questions about why that are there many answers to this possible question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4348">TS</a>]

01:12:36   and two of them which relate to too hard current question is that one that intelligence it was a sion ends up in some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4356">TS</a>]

01:12:44   kind of self destructive loop Yeah the matter WHAT it is that once you get smart enough there are mistakes that you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4364">TS</a>]

01:12:51   make that are very probable that are also civilization ending mistake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4371">TS</a>]

01:12:55   and so we used to think nuclear weapons are one of the things it seems like we're mostly past that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4375">TS</a>]

01:13:00   but you still have the possibility of destroying the earth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4380">TS</a>]

01:13:04   but the one that the answer that I actually think seems like it might be one of the most most relevant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4384">TS</a>]

01:13:10   and I read this on the I think Edge dot org A while back is that the late game of civilization is intelligent life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4390">TS</a>]

01:13:18   creates simulations that are better than the actual physical universe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4398">TS</a>]

01:13:24   and so entire civilizations just just say we're done with the real universe that have because because the virtual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4404">TS</a>]

01:13:32   universe can be designed in a way that is the Astley more attractive than the real universe I sort of I suppose I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4412">TS</a>]

01:13:40   should we go next post on so just by code of J.T. For the next ten thousand years. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4420">TS</a>]

01:13:45   Yeah I mean when you put it that way it's it's a it's a thing that sounds really trivial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4425">TS</a>]

01:13:49   but I think you have to imagine is is not like it call of duty but you talk about. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4429">TS</a>]

01:13:56   You talk about something which is almost irresistibly attractive in a simulated universe because it is designed to hit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4436">TS</a>]

01:14:05   every single one of your buttons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4445">TS</a>]

01:14:09   and the possibility as well is that you don't even know that you have put yourself inside of an amazing simulation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4449">TS</a>]

01:14:14   right if that like if that's what your brain me that that's what you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4454">TS</a>]

01:14:17   and so Brady you get to live the life of a you know eighteenth century Explorer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4457">TS</a>]

01:14:21   and that's just the perfect thing for your brain and you just love it all day long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4461">TS</a>]

01:14:25   but part of the simulation is that you don't even know that you think elation. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4465">TS</a>]

01:14:28   Well if you don't know fair enough I care if you don't know you're in a simulation or how can argue with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4468">TS</a>]

01:14:34   but the thing I think is this something very powerful about the free will thing so even if I made X. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4474">TS</a>]

01:14:42   Thirty Looper Robel ten thousand that looked amazing and just acted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4482">TS</a>]

01:14:48   and did everything he want that still wouldn't pay the audio was easy because you know that it's just it has no choice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4488">TS</a>]

01:14:55   but to bail us the something very powerful about someone who doesn't have to say yes. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4495">TS</a>]

01:15:01   Saying yes and when you ask your loss to marry or even something as even simpler [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4501">TS</a>]

01:15:08   when you first tried to kiss him might be the fact that she didn't have to let you see that she did. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4508">TS</a>]

01:15:16   His is such a powerful drug and Maine so much to us and I don't think robots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4516">TS</a>]

01:15:23   and simulations give us that a case we don't know if we're in the simulation term we don't know that that was making a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4523">TS</a>]

01:15:29   choice well how can I give you that but if we do know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4529">TS</a>]

01:15:33   I think having that taken away from us is a huge huge sacrifice will be a huge loss [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4533">TS</a>]

01:15:41   and I think that's what I think I was always very motivating and that's where my problem with robo wife comes from. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4541">TS</a>]

01:15:48   OK But here's the thing we're coming to another fundamental problem which is that I think free will doesn't exist I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4548">TS</a>]

01:15:54   think this idea that that people are making decisions is not realize or care right that it it feels that way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4554">TS</a>]

01:16:02   but it isn't the like free will is an include red oblique convincing allusion ground [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4562">TS</a>]

01:16:09   but that it that it's not real that I feel like I make choices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4569">TS</a>]

01:16:15   but I have no ability to explain like who is the me that made this choice. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4575">TS</a>]

01:16:21   Why did I choose one thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4581">TS</a>]

01:16:23   or the other I think of you pay attention to the way your mind operates it's easy to see that you have a feeling of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4583">TS</a>]

01:16:31   being in control without actually being in control. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4591">TS</a>]

01:16:35   And this is one the reasons why I tend to use a lot of language where I describe us as only like my brain does X. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4595">TS</a>]

01:16:42   Because I don't know I feel like I'm very aware of this this distinction between how things feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4602">TS</a>]

01:16:49   and how things actually are. ICAC I would say you and I don't have free will. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4609">TS</a>]

01:16:55   Yeah I still want to cope what we have free will is not because I think it is something different to what a robot as so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4615">TS</a>]

01:17:04   even if it even if it is zero pre-determined by give range mint of whatever is I still think it's different to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4624">TS</a>]

01:17:12   robot thing and it means more to me than the robot think yeah I know what I know what you're saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4632">TS</a>]

01:17:18   and the thing with a computer is that the nature of of what it does is laid bare the computer I mean a computer in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4638">TS</a>]

01:17:27   way is like a very complicated a very complicated flour mill you can go into a flour mill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4647">TS</a>]

01:17:34   and you can look at all of the pieces and how they move around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4654">TS</a>]

01:17:37   and you can see that this is a machine that just does something that the flour mill doesn't have any choice in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4657">TS</a>]

01:17:42   processing flowery just does it because of all the mechanical parts. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4662">TS</a>]

01:17:46   And ultimately a computer is the same thing it doesn't have any choice in what it does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4666">TS</a>]

01:17:52   but it's a much more complicated version you can't look at the computer and see how it works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4672">TS</a>]

01:17:58   but you know conceptually OK Computer has purpose someone has programmed this is running through code it might be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4678">TS</a>]

01:18:03   running through millions and millions of pieces of code but it's still just is still does operating on imports [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4683">TS</a>]

01:18:09   and getting outputs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4689">TS</a>]

01:18:10   and if you understand all of the inputs you can perfectly predict all of the outputs I think that humans are just one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4690">TS</a>]

01:18:18   level above that in terms of complication that if you perfectly understand all of the inputs going into a person you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4698">TS</a>]

01:18:26   could in theory perfectly predict all of the outputs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4706">TS</a>]

01:18:30   and we can't do that right now because it's just too complicated in the same way that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4710">TS</a>]

01:18:35   when a person looked at the computer most of the time they can't perfectly predict how it does everything because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4715">TS</a>]

01:18:41   too complicated but there's no fundamental difference here it just feels different because it's complexity squared [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4721">TS</a>]

01:18:50   but I think from from the first principles that it's not any different at all. Sigrid I win. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4730">TS</a>]

01:18:57   Your wife come comes home from work and brings you like a surprise present or I sign you up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4737">TS</a>]

01:19:03   and say something nice to be complementary. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4743">TS</a>]

01:19:06   You've never deny OK I was just using hypothetical let's go back to when your wife to something nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4746">TS</a>]

01:19:11   when you're sitting Why don't you bring me flowers brain when when you're sitting next to your wife [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4751">TS</a>]

01:19:15   and she strikes your AMORC gives you a gift [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4755">TS</a>]

01:19:18   or says something nasty to set give you no pleasure to you just sit there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4758">TS</a>]

01:19:21   and think well I had no choice you had you had no choice because I have you had no choice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4761">TS</a>]

01:19:26   but to do that because you were predestined to do it and he must a sit there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4766">TS</a>]

01:19:29   and Guy Well that means nothing to me because the universe decided that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4769">TS</a>]

01:19:32   or do you think wow she just did something nice because she loves me. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4772">TS</a>]

01:19:37   Which which look out how to how do you gain any enjoyment from anything if you think it's so that like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4777">TS</a>]

01:19:46   but where did it will come to like way the two totally separate myself a separate question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4786">TS</a>]

01:19:51   when your wife strikes your Om and smiles at you. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4791">TS</a>]

01:19:54   Where does the pleasure come from fear if you think that was a great idea that the the pre-determined is of a doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4794">TS</a>]

01:20:00   make any difference if it also you also start getting into just absolutely bizarre questions here of that like I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4800">TS</a>]

01:20:09   my wife can make me happy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4809">TS</a>]

01:20:10   but she makes me happy because of the very structure of my brain in perceiving happiness you don't owe me a just just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4810">TS</a>]

01:20:17   just here just think for a second I here's here's a bizarre thought exercise for people it's incident I've done it with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4817">TS</a>]

01:20:23   a few people realize it's a bit of it's a bit hard sometimes think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4823">TS</a>]

01:20:26   but whoever you are listener think about someone that you find attractive. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4826">TS</a>]

01:20:32   Right imagine their face in your mind now if you if you think about this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4832">TS</a>]

01:20:41   Chew too much you can realize wait there's there's nothing in trains ik about the face the Durham magine NG that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4841">TS</a>]

01:20:51   actually is attractive. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4851">TS</a>]

01:20:55   The whole into notion of attractiveness is something that exists in your brain it doesn't exist on the person's face. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4855">TS</a>]

01:21:05   Right you are not perceiving attractiveness on someone even their faces coming into your mind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4865">TS</a>]

01:21:11   and because of the way that your brain is structured you perceive it as attractive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4871">TS</a>]

01:21:18   but it's not a thing that's really there. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4878">TS</a>]

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01:21:27   look out at you was well that's what a face really is great that's left me was that part of your wedding vows. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4887">TS</a>]

01:21:33   Cats but it doesn't change the fact that you perceive it is as being beautiful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4893">TS</a>]

01:21:39   or being attractive idea that these two things can be the same. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4899">TS</a>]

01:21:43   Attractiveness does not exist in other people and I and that but you subjectively perceive a thing as attractive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4903">TS</a>]

01:21:51   but here but here's why I I perceive things a trying to because of the structure of the way my brain aside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4911">TS</a>]

01:21:58   and that's true for absolutely everybody and here's a great example. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4918">TS</a>]

01:22:02   When a dog looks at a person they don't see that person is being beautiful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4922">TS</a>]

01:22:07   or attractive because their dog their brain is wired differently so that they look at other dogs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4927">TS</a>]

01:22:12   and think boy that dog is really attractive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4932">TS</a>]

01:22:14   but it's nothing about the dogs right it's everything about the person's brain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4934">TS</a>]

01:22:19   or the dog's brain so the fly the like these things that these are separate questions about how can you derive pleasure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4939">TS</a>]

01:22:25   of the universe has no free will is like things that make me happy make me happy because of the way my brain is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4945">TS</a>]

01:22:31   structured the lesson before the pod cast sometimes of like interest there's no explaining why some things are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4951">TS</a>]

01:22:39   interesting to people and other things are not I mean even we just talked about it earlier. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4959">TS</a>]

01:22:43   Why am I interested in container ships [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4963">TS</a>]

01:22:45   but I have no interest in airplanes there's no there's no explanation for that there's no reason for that it's it has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4965">TS</a>]

01:22:52   something to do with with the very. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4972">TS</a>]

01:22:54   The structure of the way that my neurons to happen are happen to be connected which has everything to do with the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4974">TS</a>]

01:23:00   that I happened to have grown up and in my genetics and all the stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4980">TS</a>]

01:23:03   but I'm not in control of that I don't choose to be interested in container ships [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4983">TS</a>]

01:23:07   but not interested in airplane to cry you talk like you're on a higher plane than I I agree I agree I just have this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4987">TS</a>]

01:23:15   basic structure of wiring and I find that person good looking and person. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/4995">TS</a>]

01:23:20   Right cetera that ice but my wiring seems to be quite happy to let me live with the various allusions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/5000">TS</a>]

01:23:27   or what you would describe solutions that you seem to say not in full for those illusions you know I'm not above that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/5007">TS</a>]

01:23:34   Like I don't think I don't think that my wife cherished to bring me flowers and I think that because I I know better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/5014">TS</a>]

01:23:41   and therefore if you know you better say I do think my wife chose to bring me slows you say if you know better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/5021">TS</a>]

01:23:48   and you think he was didn't I think you're you know once you're one step further away from being placed by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/5028">TS</a>]

01:23:56   or you there's no there's no knowing better here there's no knowing better here at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/5036">TS</a>]

01:24:00   and this is always this is oh here's the argument [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/5040">TS</a>]

01:24:02   when he'd start talking about free will as the there's two different the two different things going on do people make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/5042">TS</a>]

01:24:10   choices and I think that the answer is is know that ultimately people are deterministic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/5050">TS</a>]

01:24:17   but then there's a whole separate thing which is the layer in which you subjectively live your life. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/5057">TS</a>]

01:24:24   Which feels like you make choices and that's why I like let let's let's say let's say science tomorrow. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/5064">TS</a>]

01:24:34   Came out with a study that said we proved her one hundred percent one hundred percent sure that free will doesn't exist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/5074">TS</a>]

01:24:39   yet you know we we got a big enough microscope and we looked and how it turns out is nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/5079">TS</a>]

01:24:44   but gears below the caught the level write this this is all yours in spring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/5084">TS</a>]

01:24:49   and then the the day after that scientists come out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/5089">TS</a>]

01:24:52   and say Oh actually we discovered no for one hundred percent sure there is free will because we looked at the bottom of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/5092">TS</a>]

01:24:56   the universe and below the gears pixie dust that magic yet and so free will exists. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/5096">TS</a>]

01:25:03   I don't think anything about the way I live my life changes on either of those two days. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/5103">TS</a>]

01:25:08   Both of those days I had the same reaction of that's interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/5108">TS</a>]

01:25:12   but it doesn't matter it doesn't matter because the subjective level in which you live your life is so all in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/5112">TS</a>]

01:25:19   compassing that the mechanics behind it don't don't really matter. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/5119">TS</a>]

01:25:24   Is it free will or is it pixie dust or you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/5124">TS</a>]

01:25:27   or is it is it a mechanistic universe it doesn't make any difference in my daily Nikkei it doesn't it doesn't change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/5127">TS</a>]

01:25:32   anything in in how I relate to people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/5132">TS</a>]

01:25:35   or how people relate to me let me know if you didn't really matter let me ask you this then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/5135">TS</a>]

01:25:39   when something nice does happen I keep clinging to this the sillies the scenario up bringing flowers time yeah you say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/5139">TS</a>]

01:25:49   that day to day you're just like me and the dissolution of choice and things helps bring you pleasure. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/5149">TS</a>]

01:25:58   How long see you is that in two thousand is snatched away and your intellect take sorry for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/5158">TS</a>]

01:26:05   and says I was silly silly emotional grey Of course you realize she didn't choose to bring you those flowers. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/5165">TS</a>]

01:26:10   How often do those thoughts come to you how often is the rug pulled away from the illusion in someone not you every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/5170">TS</a>]

01:26:18   time I had once a year the answer to that is is never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/5178">TS</a>]

01:26:22   and always write it because I never I never think this way because one of what I was trying to say before is it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/5182">TS</a>]

01:26:31   it doesn't matter for a guy that never fix that why you talk about a heck of a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/5191">TS</a>]

01:26:36   but what I mean is it like in Europe. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/5196">TS</a>]

01:26:39   Personal human reaction it doesn't matter if if my wife does something nice out of free will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/5199">TS</a>]

01:26:46   or out of a deterministic universe it doesn't make any difference from my perspective which of those is true. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/5206">TS</a>]

01:26:53   I personally think that it that we live in a universe where there is no free will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/5213">TS</a>]

01:26:58   but it doesn't make any difference I can like you doesn't it doesn't diminish acts of niceness to think that they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/5218">TS</a>]

01:27:08   not been done by free Well I think this is this is the argument you're making a maybe you'll be a bit more sympathetic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/5228">TS</a>]

01:27:13   to this the argument you're making to me sounds very few similar to the argument I sometimes hear from people who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/5233">TS</a>]

01:27:20   not science he people who say that oh don't you think a learning about a rainbow makes a rainbow less beautiful. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/5240">TS</a>]

01:27:29   That's that's a bit what it's I think this argument is similar to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/5249">TS</a>]

01:27:33   and I thought I would bet your opinion is the same that knowing more about a rainbow doesn't make looking at a rainbow. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/5253">TS</a>]

01:27:41   Any any less of an enjoyable experience. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/5261">TS</a>]

01:27:44   If anything it it might make the experience more enjoy all I don't think knowing that we live in a universe without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/5264">TS</a>]

01:27:49   free will make the anything more enjoyable but I certainly don't think it detracts I don't agree. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/5269">TS</a>]

01:27:57   Maybe the so you think knowing about the rainbow does make it less beautiful I remember as a child [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/5277">TS</a>]

01:28:02   when I would see a rainbow and I still believe there was a pot of gold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/5282">TS</a>]

01:28:06   or I still believe maybe we would get to the point where I could see it hitting the ground just been captivated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/5286">TS</a>]

01:28:14   and completely charmed and in love with rainbows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/5294">TS</a>]

01:28:17   and the bread saying a rainbow it was like a life changing experience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/5297">TS</a>]

01:28:20   and as we would drive along I would pray that we would get to the point where it actually touches the ground. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/5300">TS</a>]

01:28:24   Because I've never been in the point I remember actually touches the ground. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/5304">TS</a>]

01:28:27   Now that I realize that those things don't exist I still think Rainbow is a very beautiful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/5307">TS</a>]

01:28:32   and will get out my smartphone to take a picture of it but it has no where near the effect that used to have on me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/5312">TS</a>]

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01:44:47   OK whatever I look I'm super into music and I did Guy I went on the first Friday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/6287">TS</a>]

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01:51:07   Us I mean I can't play bass guitar. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/6667">TS</a>]

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01:51:16   Where do you see yourself I have decided not to be the lead singer. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/6676">TS</a>]

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01:51:30   but I don't like being the absolute center of attention I like being a little bit to the side so I'd be I'd be like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/6690">TS</a>]

01:51:38   would sometimes do a bit of accompanying singing and I'd be like the main guitarist so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/6698">TS</a>]

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01:52:01   Yeah I can sing it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/6721">TS</a>]

01:52:03   Sorry I'll catch me saying that maybe they'll be one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/6723">TS</a>]

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01:52:11   but I wouldn't be the late singer club couldn't handle that much attention. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/6731">TS</a>]

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01:52:26   brushing your teeth. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/6746">TS</a>]

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01:53:21   karma moment so enjoy the stare at her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/6801">TS</a>]

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01:55:05   and here is in black and white. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/6905">TS</a>]

01:55:08   Thanks also to Bradley Heron of Number Five fame obviously not much famous now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/6908">TS</a>]

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01:55:27   Humble because the whole point of sang it I'm in the conventions of a book is to then say and no one knows who I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/6927">TS</a>]

01:55:35   and I got my name wrong. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/6935">TS</a>]

01:55:38   And I think Derek should also have an arsenal smart himself after only this is just yeah this is just karmic justice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/6938">TS</a>]

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01:56:49   imagining what a copy editor is thinking this is there's no there's no evidence for their no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/7009">TS</a>]

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01:57:13   OK you're just a humble narrow your own you're trying to make this bizarre brag humble that I still can't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/7033">TS</a>]

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02:12:14   about Reddit won't care at all about Chad I shagged Splenda as art. Maybe would hope you to him. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/7934">TS</a>]

02:12:20   Me tell you what I think happened at it let's do that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/7940">TS</a>]

02:12:24   Yeah that's a good starting point as a good hour tell us what your Purcell and tell you my perception of what happened. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/7944">TS</a>]

02:12:29   My perception of what happened is this woman who works for read it as like a paid employee of read it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/7949">TS</a>]

02:12:37   and her name is Victoria. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/7957">TS</a>]

02:12:40   And she organizes lots of things and is involved in various parts of read it and one of her jobs. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/7960">TS</a>]

02:12:45   Oh say is running the Ask me anything. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/7965">TS</a>]

02:12:47   Section where quite often famous people come on and on to questions from Red is now she was suddenly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/7967">TS</a>]

02:12:58   and abruptly fired or lost her job or read it the reason for this is unclear. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/7978">TS</a>]

02:13:05   Now some now many of the volunteers of Reddit who really keep it all going. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/7985">TS</a>]

02:13:10   These moderators who is so important to read it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/7990">TS</a>]

02:13:13   but are not employees of credit this kind of volunteers that hope it runs mostly. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/7993">TS</a>]

02:13:18   We're very displeased about this woman losing her job and how it was handled I thought it was on set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/7998">TS</a>]

02:13:25   and as their way of protesting. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8005">TS</a>]

02:13:27   Thanks basically crippled sections of the website by setting things to private making them inaccessible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8007">TS</a>]

02:13:34   and I've made that's basically shut down bits of read it out of protest and as a result. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8014">TS</a>]

02:13:40   Normal users like me who aren't ready and moderators or anything a lot of the sections we like easing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8020">TS</a>]

02:13:45   and now ham strung as this battle goes on between the volunteer moderators to sticking up for this woman called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8025">TS</a>]

02:13:52   Victoria and the actual business people who run read it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8032">TS</a>]

02:13:56   Who who took away this woman's job for whatever reason that's what I think happened you know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8036">TS</a>]

02:14:04   Yeah I think that that that's a that's a fair description of what has occurred. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8044">TS</a>]

02:14:09   But even even that even that to me is a bit as a bit specific I think I may be here the way I would try to describe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8049">TS</a>]

02:14:17   this in the most general terms about what's going on at rhetoric is I would say about a year ago there was a change in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8057">TS</a>]

02:14:27   leadership at read it the people who are running red at the company today ownership change cry it was a just knew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8067">TS</a>]

02:14:34   people were employed to be the boss. There's a new new C.E.O. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8074">TS</a>]

02:14:38   and A couple of high level people brought on board is the way to play [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8078">TS</a>]

02:14:43   and since since that time there have been a lot of things that some portion of the people who use Reddit don't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8083">TS</a>]

02:14:58   yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8098">TS</a>]

02:14:58   and as read it has gotten popular there are there are other kinds of problems with the site that they don't seem to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8098">TS</a>]

02:15:08   addressing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8108">TS</a>]

02:15:09   and what I would say has happened with read it in just the past few days is a bit like a riot in in that the people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8109">TS</a>]

02:15:19   running read it have what I would describe as as high negative numbers that the vast majority of people who visit read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8119">TS</a>]

02:15:27   a don't know anything about anything how the site run by They're just going to see funny caption. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8127">TS</a>]

02:15:32   But insiders have a very negative reaction to the leadership of read it so if you imagine a graph is like a spike at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8132">TS</a>]

02:15:41   the at the left hand side for negative numbers and the vast majority of people are neutral. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8141">TS</a>]

02:15:45   Yeah and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8145">TS</a>]

02:15:46   when you say leadership you want to finding the people the money people eating it not the people who like these informal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8146">TS</a>]

02:15:52   latest as what moderators and yeah I mean people who are employed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8152">TS</a>]

02:15:57   or the owners of the cat I'm using leadership in a slightly broad term care for his mother met like people who own the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8157">TS</a>]

02:16:03   company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8163">TS</a>]

02:16:03   or run the Yemeni that that's what I mean again it's the vast majority of users don't really care they don't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8163">TS</a>]

02:16:10   know anything there. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8170">TS</a>]

02:16:11   On luck a lot of men here when bus drivers go on strike like I don't really care about the strongest salaries [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8171">TS</a>]

02:16:17   but suddenly I get affected in all the bus driver stopped driving the busses. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8177">TS</a>]

02:16:21   Yeah yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8181">TS</a>]

02:16:21   and so they're just a lot of problems that have been building up among a small group of people this is particularly the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8181">TS</a>]

02:16:29   moderators the people who are running sections on Reddit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8189">TS</a>]

02:16:33   but are not employed by Red have felt that they don't read it has not helped them with the tools that they need as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8193">TS</a>]

02:16:39   site has gotten popular that has been the glass you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8199">TS</a>]

02:16:42   and so this is this Victoria person who this now this is a case rife I fall into it as I am only dimly aware of her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8202">TS</a>]

02:16:48   but it also falls into the category of Victoria is a bit like the opposite of the Reddit administration in that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8208">TS</a>]

02:16:55   vast majority of users don't know who she is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8215">TS</a>]

02:16:57   but the people who do know who she is she has a big spike in her positive for so her so her curve her likability curve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8217">TS</a>]

02:17:04   is the exact reverse of the of the leadership [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8224">TS</a>]

02:17:07   and so this is like a riot situation where there's a small group of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8227">TS</a>]

02:17:12   or a minority of people who intensely dislike the leadership [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8232">TS</a>]

02:17:16   and then they is fact the leadership has gotten rid of someone who has very high positive number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8236">TS</a>]

02:17:23   and this is like a collision that has occurred that has made a group of the users very angry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8243">TS</a>]

02:17:30   and then has has caused this little bit of our of our Like I said it's a bit like it feels like a riot it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8250">TS</a>]

02:17:37   necessarily have anything to do with the particulars of what happened anything could kick it off big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8257">TS</a>]

02:17:43   but like stuff has just been building up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8263">TS</a>]

02:17:45   and yes I think the the the details of the way this situation have been handled have have been very hand fisted have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8265">TS</a>]

02:17:52   been very poorly done but it just felt like there was a fire that's been waiting to happen. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8272">TS</a>]

02:17:58   And this firing of Victoria happen to be the the thing but but it was just building up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8278">TS</a>]

02:18:04   and building up so I think that's the highest level way to describe what is what is occurring how do you say the future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8284">TS</a>]

02:18:11   bookings had to say this is like is this is just going to blow it verges say change happening as a result like how have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8291">TS</a>]

02:18:18   faced I think this fire is and it's it's really interesting. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8298">TS</a>]

02:18:25   I don't know how to judge this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8305">TS</a>]

02:18:27   and one thing one thing that is a number that you can put on it is that there is a petition on Change dot org asking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8307">TS</a>]

02:18:34   for the C.E.O. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8314">TS</a>]

02:18:35   or Read it to step down that has a hundred thousand signatures on it which is not an insignificant number of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8315">TS</a>]

02:18:44   and I would say that the C.E.O. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8324">TS</a>]

02:18:45   Has definitely demonstrated a a lack of understanding for Internet culture might be the might be the way to put it it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8325">TS</a>]

02:18:54   a bit like you know your grandma's trying to do something and Hotmail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8334">TS</a>]

02:18:57   and ensure they everything that they're doing indicates to you that they don't know what they're doing there been a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8337">TS</a>]

02:19:02   events that so that aggravate people you're running the biggest discussion website on the internet you should really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8342">TS</a>]

02:19:09   knows maybe ship read a statement on his My Space I don't I don't know where the future of this is going. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8349">TS</a>]

02:19:16   I feel partly that this is the this is the recurring problem that we see on the Internet that in many ways are like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8356">TS</a>]

02:19:23   things that we have talked about with You Tube that the Internet has a funny way of trending toward monopolies. Yeah. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8363">TS</a>]

02:19:33   Of of the best video site becomes the only video site [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8373">TS</a>]

02:19:39   and the best comments discussion board becomes it's not the only discussion board [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8379">TS</a>]

02:19:45   but it's it's it's like it's like you two vs video there are other discussion sites out there that people use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8385">TS</a>]

02:19:52   but there's no doubt about it that read it is the biggest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8392">TS</a>]

02:19:56   and I use it because I was like you do which I think has many technical problem I think the read it the discussion. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8396">TS</a>]

02:20:03   Algorithms they use are by far and away the best that's why I still use them for all of my discussions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8403">TS</a>]

02:20:10   but I think this is the same kind of problem of we have everything is now in one basket [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8410">TS</a>]

02:20:16   and so if there's a leadership change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8416">TS</a>]

02:20:18   or if things aren't going very well people get really frustrated really fast because there aren't very many options [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8418">TS</a>]

02:20:26   and I don't know if there's a way to do I can open source distributed commenting system in the same way that e-mail is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8426">TS</a>]

02:20:34   an open platform or R.S.S. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8434">TS</a>]

02:20:36   Is an open platform the way we host our podcast I don't know if that's a kind of thing that can happen with with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8436">TS</a>]

02:20:43   comments but because I just don't because here's the thing people have talked about before how before read it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8443">TS</a>]

02:20:50   Dig was one of the bigger sites in the dig went through problems and everybody left dig for read it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8450">TS</a>]

02:20:55   and now he's read it going through the same thing well if everybody leaves read it for something else I mean the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8455">TS</a>]

02:21:01   probably the largest contender right now is a site called Vote if people leave read it for vote I don't see how this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8461">TS</a>]

02:21:07   necessarily going to be any different to what we've just we just kick the can down the road of what happens then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8467">TS</a>]

02:21:12   when some other website then becomes a monopoly as time goes on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8472">TS</a>]

02:21:15   and then it just it just it's a difficult it's a difficult thing and. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8475">TS</a>]

02:21:22   I don't know I don't know what's going to happen to read it in the future I think that read it is is great in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8482">TS</a>]

02:21:29   comments but the way things have been handled I don't I do not think it been handled very well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8489">TS</a>]

02:21:35   and there this thing I mention a couple times is there this problem on the Internet called a strides [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8495">TS</a>]

02:21:40   and effect are you aware of the strides I am yeah. For the listeners. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8500">TS</a>]

02:21:43   Strides and effect comes from Barbra Streisand and it's a reference to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8503">TS</a>]

02:21:48   when you try to cover up something on the Internet you often make it worse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8508">TS</a>]

02:21:56   and the example here is that Barbra Streisand many years ago was unhappy that there were some photos of her house on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8516">TS</a>]

02:22:02   the Internet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8522">TS</a>]

02:22:03   and hurt her very actions to try to get rid of those photos is what caused those photos to become popular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8523">TS</a>]

02:22:10   and everybody to see pictures of her house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8530">TS</a>]

02:22:11   and to eventually have an effect named after as the it's like the exact opposite of what anybody would ever want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8531">TS</a>]

02:22:17   and there are there are a few things that red has done which I think are strides [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8537">TS</a>]

02:22:21   and affect the in the past couple months where there are things about the site that they don't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8541">TS</a>]

02:22:28   and then they try to change them and I think it just ends up making those things more popular or more intense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8548">TS</a>]

02:22:35   or it ends up making those things have higher visibility are you talking about base a piece of sections of read of I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8555">TS</a>]

02:22:41   tried to sort of sob so get rid of a never even looking at the more oh yeah I get the again the details of those things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8561">TS</a>]

02:22:48   are very hard to even talk about without making everybody angry or I also think without making the situation worse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8568">TS</a>]

02:22:54   but that is definitely a case where they tried to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8574">TS</a>]

02:22:59   and I've been to the bit something on my mind which is kind of related to this that I don't I don't know how to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8579">TS</a>]

02:23:04   articulate this but it's something in my mind of how there are there are bad thing that happened in the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8584">TS</a>]

02:23:11   or there are there are like there are bad things that exist in the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8591">TS</a>]

02:23:15   but sometimes I don't know how to talk about them in a way that I don't that I don't think makes the situation worse. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8595">TS</a>]

02:23:26   I think there are there are very much. I think in just talking about and in a very broad context. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8606">TS</a>]

02:23:34   When people try to do something like banning an idea I think all that happens very often is you end up consolidating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8614">TS</a>]

02:23:46   and strengthening the group of people who believe in that idea. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8626">TS</a>]

02:23:50   You've ended up making them feel now like they are warriors is against injustice and so I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8630">TS</a>]

02:24:00   when I think about stuff on the Internet one of the reasons why I always liked read it is the Internet is kind of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8640">TS</a>]

02:24:08   horrible place but it's a horrible place because people are horrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8648">TS</a>]

02:24:12   and I much prefer to have a situation where all of the ideas are on the table [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8652">TS</a>]

02:24:20   and everybody can everybody can see what those ideas are even if they're not good ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8660">TS</a>]

02:24:26   but I think what can happen sometimes is when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8666">TS</a>]

02:24:28   when you try to say oh we want to remove some of these ideas from the table I think it just makes the whole situation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8668">TS</a>]

02:24:34   worse. I think it makes people angry and it makes people who are trying to do good in the world. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8674">TS</a>]

02:24:43   Less aware of what the what the nature of people's minds are if you can't see what all the ideas on on the table are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8683">TS</a>]

02:24:49   there some that are hidden underneath the table [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8689">TS</a>]

02:24:52   and I'm trying to talk about it in very general terms because talking about anything in particular you end up just in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8692">TS</a>]

02:24:57   like inflaming an argument I mean I wanted to ask you about the Confederate flag and if aside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8697">TS</a>]

02:25:01   and I thought this my way Chris going to talk about a no no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8701">TS</a>]

02:25:05   but I say this this is the very thing like we discussed the Confederate flag video. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8705">TS</a>]

02:25:10   My most recently the Oh My most recent video before it went up because I was fit I was having this same feeling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8710">TS</a>]

02:25:17   and I talked to a bunch of people about that video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8717">TS</a>]

02:25:20   and I could see that I was getting the same kind of reaction that people from different ends of the spectrum like they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8720">TS</a>]

02:25:29   strengthen their opinion so I'm going to give us as well as if I can pull up something. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8729">TS</a>]

02:25:37   They were really quick because is a perfect example. OK Here we go perfect I found it and that's just great. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8737">TS</a>]

02:25:48   OK so yeah the Confederate flag stuff I don't want to get into any of the details about this argument I just want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8748">TS</a>]

02:25:53   talk about one thing so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8753">TS</a>]

02:25:56   when I was doing the research for the Confederate flag video I happened to stumble upon a poll from Pew Research that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8756">TS</a>]

02:26:05   people who do all the polls in America. About people's reactions to the Confederate flag. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8765">TS</a>]

02:26:12   Now this is from two thousand and eleven. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8772">TS</a>]

02:26:16   So here we are time I like positive negative reactions to Victoria before this is the same thing for the slack. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8776">TS</a>]

02:26:22   So in two thousand and eleven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8782">TS</a>]

02:26:24   when shown a Confederate flag the reaction that Americans had nine percent of Americans had a positive reaction thirty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8784">TS</a>]

02:26:35   percent of Americans had a negative reaction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8795">TS</a>]

02:26:40   and the rest said that they had no reaction to the Confederate flag they didn't feel one way or the other. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8800">TS</a>]

02:26:46   OK So this is several years ago now we've had this whole big brouhaha over the Confederate flag recently I would bet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8806">TS</a>]

02:26:55   money that what has happened now is that that almost sixty percent of people who had no reaction to the flag that group [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8815">TS</a>]

02:27:05   is now gone. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8825">TS</a>]

02:27:07   Right that there's almost no Americans who would say they have no reaction to the Confederate flag [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8827">TS</a>]

02:27:12   but here's the thing I would bet that both numbers have increased that Americans who feel negative about the flag have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8832">TS</a>]

02:27:21   vastly increased [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8841">TS</a>]

02:27:22   but I would also bet that that nine percent of Americans who have a positive reaction that that number has increased as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8842">TS</a>]

02:27:28   well. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8848">TS</a>]

02:27:29   Well that's Could you leave taken a bunch of neutrals [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8849">TS</a>]

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02:27:44   by throw up. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8864">TS</a>]

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02:27:46   and what I was trying to put together that Confederate flag video I had several people tell me this this exact same thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8866">TS</a>]

02:27:52   of the I don't know even how to put the people people said you can no longer make a video that is neutral on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8872">TS</a>]

02:28:01   Confederate flag that if you if you just want to talk about where the flag came from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8881">TS</a>]

02:28:07   and you don't finish that video with and by the way it's a horrible symbol of injustice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8887">TS</a>]

02:28:13   and should be banned from people's brains for all of time that you are implicitly indorsing horrible I had people tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8893">TS</a>]

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02:28:28   and say that it's awful that that there's no middle ground left anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8908">TS</a>]

02:28:35   and this is this is a bit like I don't know I felt like I was trying to get at this with my my my video about they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8915">TS</a>]

02:28:41   could video will make you angry that there are conversations that just spread [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8921">TS</a>]

02:28:47   and I don't I don't know if it's I don't know this is what I mean where I think it's hard to have a conversation about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8927">TS</a>]

02:28:55   a thing that doesn't make the situation worse like it is it is on doubtable now that seeing a Confederate flag in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8935">TS</a>]

02:29:07   twenty fifteen going forward as different much worse reactions for people than it did in two thousand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8947">TS</a>]

02:29:15   and fourteen an earlier and we can know that because of this this Pew poll and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8955">TS</a>]

02:29:20   but like my parents were tired down to the south and it was just like I would see Confederate flags around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8960">TS</a>]

02:29:27   and I always thought that was kind of weird as a Northerner but I'm going to be really curious that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8967">TS</a>]

02:29:31   when I visit my family this summer. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8971">TS</a>]

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02:29:40   topics but it's not because it's not because I don't feel strongly one way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8980">TS</a>]

02:29:45   or the other it's because I don't know how to have the conversation in a way that I think makes things better. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8985">TS</a>]

02:29:53   Not your job as a hose to just not your job you don't have to do that I would follow encourage you not to make things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8993">TS</a>]

02:29:59   worse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/8999">TS</a>]

02:30:01   but you are allowed to be useful I think that there are ways in which you can be thinking that you're making a something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/9001">TS</a>]

02:30:07   better when you're actually making it worse that just by talking about a thing that gets spread means [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/9007">TS</a>]

02:30:14   or a good spreads ideas in a way that meant that makes things worse than they were before. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/9014">TS</a>]

02:30:21   I'm not doing a good job of explaining this is been on Mamata was just kind of I think what you say is true. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/9021">TS</a>]

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02:30:33   and you you think a lot about all the different ways things could go before you act on it did a bit more. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/9033">TS</a>]

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02:30:46   but that's not what I meant that you know you do you think that three quite a bit I think I think it's perfectly valid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/9046">TS</a>]

02:30:52   to to to do something unusual on the topic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/9052">TS</a>]

02:30:55   and discuss things you truly I have no opinion on what's going on to read it I don't I don't really have a strong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/9055">TS</a>]

02:31:00   opinion on the Confederate flag thing I'm a little bit on the little bit misinformed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/9060">TS</a>]

02:31:05   or uninformed I should say rather misinformed I did rate today that the person who owns the generally come from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/9065">TS</a>]

02:31:11   cheeks of Hazard who happens to be the goal for a famous go for call Bubba Watson is Manning to paint over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/9071">TS</a>]

02:31:17   Confederate flag on that car with the United States flag and I think that's a bit crazy. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/9077">TS</a>]

02:31:24   I mean I don't think you should be painting what it would have you think about that Fleck now I think you should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/9084">TS</a>]

02:31:28   painting over rewriting history. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/9088">TS</a>]

02:31:32   But that I am I mean I know it's a purpose a long bow to describe it generally is a piece of history but it kind of is. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/9092">TS</a>]

02:31:40   Say And and I I think it's perfectly fine to talk about it and explain the facts of a situation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/9100">TS</a>]

02:31:47   and not not have a strong opinion on a I have no strong opinion on a I find it funny that the I'm fortunate murder of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/9107">TS</a>]

02:31:54   people has turned into a discussion about Flag Contro. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/9114">TS</a>]

02:31:58   Yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/9118">TS</a>]

02:31:58   but I mean that again that's yeah that's the details of the situation of which I am woefully uninformed as usual I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/9118">TS</a>]

02:32:07   living in my little news bubble and this came across my attention [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/9127">TS</a>]

02:32:11   and people were talking about how Apple was removing all games that have the Confederate flag has a that's our regions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/9131">TS</a>]

02:32:17   where did this come from and then I have to I'm in the weird position of always having to trace the news. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/9137">TS</a>]

02:32:23   It's unlike where did the how did how did this end up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/9143">TS</a>]

02:32:27   and you know because again it because I don't follow the news you see the pattern really clearly of the news cycle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/9147">TS</a>]

02:32:34   and how things always reach their absurd most absurd later in the week. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/9154">TS</a>]

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02:32:40   and then by the end of the week it has reached its maximum absurdity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/9160">TS</a>]

02:32:44   and then next week the cycle starts over again with something new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/9164">TS</a>]

02:32:47   and everybody forgets whatever we were talking about before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/9167">TS</a>]

02:32:50   but so that's why I came across as very late in the say they for you it started as a as flags being banned from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/9170">TS</a>]

02:32:56   computer games and you had to trick your way to a mass shooting. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/9176">TS</a>]

02:32:59   That's exactly right which you can see from my perspective the what the heck is it where did this come from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/9179">TS</a>]

02:33:05   and I know nothing of. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/9185">TS</a>]

02:33:06   Out anything that has occurred from my perspective is just out of the blue apple says Confederate flags are not allowed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/9186">TS</a>]

02:33:13   in video game like how we tried to have a general conversation immediately ended up discussing this Pacific of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/9193">TS</a>]

02:33:18   Confederate flag [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/9198">TS</a>]

02:33:18   but yeah to draw it to draw it back to to read it I guess is what I was going to say it with the Streisand Effect where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/9198">TS</a>]

02:33:28   the really trying to go with that is that the people on Reddit have been critical of the leadership [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/9208">TS</a>]

02:33:38   but then the leadership has been taken down. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/9218">TS</a>]

02:33:42   Threads discussing the situation and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/9222">TS</a>]

02:33:45   and like OK that is a perfect example of a Streisand Effect situation you know of people are criticizing you on your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/9225">TS</a>]

02:33:53   Web site the only way to roll is to let that go right to let people talk about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/9233">TS</a>]

02:34:01   but I don't think there would be nearly as much anger if it wasn't for the fact that there's there's trying to try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/9241">TS</a>]

02:34:07   be suppression of the discussion. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/9247">TS</a>]

02:34:10   And that's why I'm generally very hesitant against any kind of moves to refer to remove ideas from the table to say we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/9250">TS</a>]

02:34:19   can't discuss this here I just I don't think that that's that's good even if the ideas are awful like that that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/9259">TS</a>]

02:34:26   price that you pay for living in a free society. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/9266">TS</a>]

02:34:29   I did one hundred percent agree that gray someone drops a comment under one of my videos about the person in the video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/9269">TS</a>]

02:34:35   and says something completely outrageous and offensive. I I would not be uncomfortable deleting that comment. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/9275">TS</a>]

02:34:43   I've asked I want to make that comment some rooms with like a you know they going to go into a new right on your own we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/9283">TS</a>]

02:34:50   have a state [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/9290">TS</a>]

02:34:50   but you know doing a mind just because someone writes someone if someone wants to make a billboard saying something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/9290">TS</a>]

02:34:57   pretty terrible inoffensive are constantly doing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/9297">TS</a>]

02:34:59   but I can't stop them boating it to the front of my house it's a bit different on your You Tube channel because that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/9299">TS</a>]

02:35:04   something you are not running a general purpose platform for discussion. Yeah and ideas for him. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/9304">TS</a>]

02:35:10   Yeah OK that's like that is what it is coming here to talk about anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/9310">TS</a>]

02:35:16   and then that's why in the in the last year it's been more about come here to talk about anything except the thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/9316">TS</a>]

02:35:21   we don't want you to know about and I think that that's why I like but they go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/9321">TS</a>]

02:35:26   but we don't want you to talk about the horrible things like because they're hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/9326">TS</a>]

02:35:29   but we're not discussing if they're horrible. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/9329">TS</a>]

02:35:31   Right where it's the ultimate thing here is a you're making a decision about what is allowed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/9331">TS</a>]

02:35:37   or what is not allowed to be talking Yeah and I'm OK with it like red it has taken down stuff. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/9337">TS</a>]

02:35:41   Discussion forums before about stuff that was illegal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/9341">TS</a>]

02:35:45   and I think that that is an acceptable boundary to have you were operating within the United States in the United [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/9345">TS</a>]

02:35:50   States says you're not allowed to have this section of the form. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/9350">TS</a>]

02:35:54   Find it it's taken down I don't think anybody argues with that that's quite reasonable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/9354">TS</a>]

02:35:59   but there's many more things that that are in it in a different area [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/9359">TS</a>]

02:36:04   and so if stuff is a legal I'm always OK with a lot of easily you should take that down that you have to take it down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/9364">TS</a>]

02:36:09   but other than that I think it's very difficult to have conversations that are are bounded are bound in some way I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/9369">TS</a>]

02:36:17   generally don't I generally don't react very well to that outside this because if excess of of what the discussion is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/9377">TS</a>]

02:36:24   but other then I found myself in a weird situation if you're always on the side of of people that you don't necessarily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/9384">TS</a>]

02:36:29   like but that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/9389">TS</a>]

02:36:31   but that's what you have to do if if if you want ideas to be on the table if you don't want them to be removed from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/9391">TS</a>]

02:36:36   table if you have to be able to defend the ones that you don't like their presence if not their content. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/9396">TS</a>]

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02:36:47   but not for the first I would for the last no no for the last I tell you about this like a long does a lot of things we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/9407">TS</a>]

02:36:55   didn't talk about so we've already got the next episode or Asian care of great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/9415">TS</a>]

02:37:01   and with British English your heart damage done done nothing was done. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/9421">TS</a>]

02:37:05   I don't I think right I think we've been recorded quota we have now is that as been two hours and forty two minutes. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/9425">TS</a>]

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02:37:18   and now it looks like it's getting sunnier again so we're actually going through one complete climate changes where I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/9438">TS</a>]

02:37:23   am less of course climate change. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVwgHbo/9443">TS</a>]