00:00:00 ◼ ► Hello Internet. Don't freak out. Yes I'm talking to you the listener right now. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/0">TS</a>]
00:00:06 ◼ ► Today we're doing something a little different this is a very special episode of the podcast three to set up something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/6">TS</a>]
00:00:13 ◼ ► cool that we actually recorded in person to gether and filmed. That's right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/13">TS</a>]
00:00:19 ◼ ► There's video and it's video of objects and we're going to be talking about those objects during today's show. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/19">TS</a>]
00:00:26 ◼ ► Now there will be photos and links in the description of today's show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/26">TS</a>]
00:00:30 ◼ ► but if you want more we've actually released this episode as a video at the same time on the hello internet You Tube [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/30">TS</a>]
00:00:37 ◼ ► channel if you want to watch the video live you can either search for the hello internet channel on You Tube [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/37">TS</a>]
00:00:43 ◼ ► or click the link in the description below. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/43">TS</a>]
00:00:46 ◼ ► And for those afraid of certain kinds of spoilers the video is close up shots of our hands mostly although Brady does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/46">TS</a>]
00:00:52 ◼ ► get in the way of the camera sometimes. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/52">TS</a>]
00:00:54 ◼ ► But don't worry this is primarily a pod cast so if you just want to listen to this episode you are already doing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/54">TS</a>]
00:01:00 ◼ ► presumably And so you can just keep listening. Either way on to this very special episode of hello internet. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/60">TS</a>]
00:01:08 ◼ ► I'm actually looking at your face and we're in the same room and completely freaking me out. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/68">TS</a>]
00:01:13 ◼ ► I was in that I'm really freaking out because I can literally reach over the microphone and touch your face. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/73">TS</a>]
00:01:20 ◼ ► You know it's strange while I've been setting up I haven't actually looked up and now I just look to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/80">TS</a>]
00:01:24 ◼ ► and I feel really weird. SAVE THE so I with the arms going to look at my face the whole time. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/84">TS</a>]
00:01:28 ◼ ► We have probably spent more hours talking to each other not looking at each other then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/88">TS</a>]
00:01:34 ◼ ► and then our is actually looking at that mean. Definitely definitely. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/94">TS</a>]
00:01:40 ◼ ► Anyway let's explain why we're in the same place because this is a very special episode of hello internet. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/100">TS</a>]
00:01:46 ◼ ► We're doing something completely different and we're sitting in an amazing place. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/106">TS</a>]
00:01:52 ◼ ► All the Utah people where we're sitting because I got a suspicion I'm going to talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/112">TS</a>]
00:01:56 ◼ ► and so I'm going to give you every opportunity I can. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/116">TS</a>]
00:02:00 ◼ ► We are in the Royal Society building right now just just outside the window we're actually sitting in the president's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/120">TS</a>]
00:02:10 ◼ ► and looking out the window is on to the mountains in which people say it was I was at the mall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/130">TS</a>]
00:02:17 ◼ ► and that's not a shopping mall by the way. Yes it's the big street. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/137">TS</a>]
00:02:21 ◼ ► If you those are down the road from us is Buckingham Palace just slightly up the road is Trafalgar Square [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/141">TS</a>]
00:02:27 ◼ ► and you may hear a lot of ambient noise because minutes before we started recording it was the changing of the guard so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/147">TS</a>]
00:02:33 ◼ ► we could hear all of the horses going down the street just in front of the building that we are in the president's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/153">TS</a>]
00:02:40 ◼ ► I think you're downplaying this whole president's office things like this is the Oval Office of Science. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/160">TS</a>]
00:02:46 ◼ ► Like it like in terms of ceremonial science jobs. President of the Royal Society here in London. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/166">TS</a>]
00:02:54 ◼ ► I can't think of a ceremonial science job as big a deal. I can't think of one Can you think of one. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/174">TS</a>]
00:03:00 ◼ ► It's not the biggest deal in science like winning a Nobel Prize is probably a bigger deal for a scientist. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/180">TS</a>]
00:03:05 ◼ ► And by the way the current president of the Royal Society did win and it was for. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/185">TS</a>]
00:03:10 ◼ ► But but like in terms of like you know I like the posh jobs I think President of the Royal Society is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/190">TS</a>]
00:03:16 ◼ ► and we are in although it's not oval shaped. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/196">TS</a>]
00:03:19 ◼ ► I'm calling this the Oval Office of Science and you could almost reach out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/199">TS</a>]
00:03:23 ◼ ► and touch his equivalent of the resolute desk. We're looking at his desk right now. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/203">TS</a>]
00:03:27 ◼ ► It does kind of look like they're resolute. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/207">TS</a>]
00:03:28 ◼ ► It does appear it does appear so the current president of the Royal Society is a poll nurse Nobel Prize winner Nobel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/208">TS</a>]
00:03:35 ◼ ► Prize in Medicine big expert on cells and such things genetics does not a cancer research now he is away today. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/215">TS</a>]
00:03:42 ◼ ► He's not sitting here watching us thank goodness because that would make an awkward situation even more awkward yes yes. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/222">TS</a>]
00:03:48 ◼ ► So we've been given his office mainly because one of the quieter rooms in the building [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/228">TS</a>]
00:03:52 ◼ ► and we're going to be something very special very shortly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/232">TS</a>]
00:03:56 ◼ ► but first of all we should do with a couple housekeeping matters I believe. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/236">TS</a>]
00:04:00 ◼ ► Because this is a special edition of hello internet. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/240">TS</a>]
00:04:03 ◼ ► We are not going to be doing our usual follow up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/243">TS</a>]
00:04:06 ◼ ► but now talking for an Arab at what happened in the episode before you be in a place like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/246">TS</a>]
00:04:12 ◼ ► and then to do let's just talk about whatever happened last five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/252">TS</a>]
00:04:16 ◼ ► or forty five minutes it would seem almost disrespectful to the office and the room current [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/256">TS</a>]
00:04:22 ◼ ► and aggravate that is that we just put the last episode LIVE last night. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/262">TS</a>]
00:04:29 ◼ ► So we haven't even had a chance to kind of really go through much of the feedback [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/269">TS</a>]
00:04:33 ◼ ► or anything so we're skipping our normal follow up which is probably a good thing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/273">TS</a>]
00:04:37 ◼ ► So so follow up from Episode thirty nine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/277">TS</a>]
00:04:41 ◼ ► and this episode which I think will be Episode forty miles well will take place in Episode forty one so for those die [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/281">TS</a>]
00:04:48 ◼ ► hard fans who love listening to us go over everything in minutia you can have to white I'm sorry because we're dealing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/288">TS</a>]
00:04:56 ◼ ► just with just with World Business Today. Now I want to talk a bit more about where we are. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/296">TS</a>]
00:05:02 ◼ ► Let's talk about the presidency of the Royal Society first. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/302">TS</a>]
00:05:05 ◼ ► OK because I just want people to understand what a big deal this job is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/305">TS</a>]
00:05:08 ◼ ► and I made a couple of notes here of some past presidents of the Royal Society. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/308">TS</a>]
00:05:14 ◼ ► Let me just hit you with a few names I want safe any of these names mean anything to this is from the long list of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/314">TS</a>]
00:05:19 ◼ ► previous presidents interview already and I really feel like like like you have prepared for today. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/319">TS</a>]
00:05:27 ◼ ► and I'm feeling massively outgunned right now you have you have no you have preparations you have people you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/327">TS</a>]
00:05:35 ◼ ► people helping you today and I just feel like oh God I don't know what you have no idea what's happening. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/335">TS</a>]
00:05:41 ◼ ► And that as you'll find out that's part of the point where to live really drop and right to that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/341">TS</a>]
00:05:45 ◼ ► but let me hit him with a few names and see if this is not test feels like it's us none of this will be a test [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/345">TS</a>]
00:05:51 ◼ ► but I just want to hit you with a few names because I want you to understand the power of the office you're in at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/351">TS</a>]
00:05:56 ◼ ► moment. Christopher Wren. Ring a bell. Yeah. Architect St Paul's. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/356">TS</a>]
00:06:02 ◼ ► Yes superstar architect of London St Paul's Cathedral which is that big dome church you always see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/362">TS</a>]
00:06:07 ◼ ► when you see the iconic pictures of London he was a president of the Royal Society. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/367">TS</a>]
00:06:12 ◼ ► Little guy called Isaac Newton ring a bell ring about Isaac Newton something with apples in an orchard oratory It's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/372">TS</a>]
00:06:27 ◼ ► Yeah I think I know Isaac I don't know if you know this one but will mean a lot to our strength in friends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/387">TS</a>]
00:06:31 ◼ ► and means a lot to me. The longest serving president of the Royal Society is a guy called Joseph Banks. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/391">TS</a>]
00:06:36 ◼ ► So that was you know that one you might not know one line is I can say a person he's a botanist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/396">TS</a>]
00:06:43 ◼ ► and he was it was quite a distinguished botanist had a lot to do with a strategy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/403">TS</a>]
00:06:46 ◼ ► and he was on a five dollar night for a long time so he means a lot to me but I'll let you off our thank you. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/406">TS</a>]
00:06:51 ◼ ► Humphry Davy Oh I should know that this is where it starts to feel like a test on an item to see if you know the name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/411">TS</a>]
00:06:58 ◼ ► you doesn't it doesn't I know the name the tell me what to do that we're not going to. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/418">TS</a>]
00:07:03 ◼ ► People can look it up though I want to know right now I can look it up you have it right there. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/423">TS</a>]
00:07:08 ◼ ► Lord rally Raleigh scattering. Oh yeah yeah yeah the past president and they really that probably is correct. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/428">TS</a>]
00:07:18 ◼ ► I'm afraid my pronunciation of everything is terrible. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/438">TS</a>]
00:07:21 ◼ ► Ernest rather third rather rather heard yet another president brag Florrie Florrie I don't know Florrie penicillin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/441">TS</a>]
00:07:29 ◼ ► again I'm going by faith because he hasn't had lead connection that's where I'm from. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/449">TS</a>]
00:07:33 ◼ ► But Florrie was involved with penicillin research. Me You're thinking of Fleming. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/453">TS</a>]
00:07:40 ◼ ► Yeah thinking of climbing the amp correctly but because I'm from Adelaide we pick up Florrie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/460">TS</a>]
00:07:46 ◼ ► and the past also on a Strat in money. I'm very biased. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/466">TS</a>]
00:07:52 ◼ ► Well when you're young men like you want money and you can't have it and your parents like in their wallet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/472">TS</a>]
00:08:00 ◼ ► Notice which you dream of having like a fifty dollar note right even a five dollar night right the people on those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/480">TS</a>]
00:08:05 ◼ ► notes the pictures of them become these iconic people on shows the president's on your American money they like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/485">TS</a>]
00:08:12 ◼ ► So now when I walk around the Royal Society [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/492">TS</a>]
00:08:14 ◼ ► and I see these portraits of these people's faces I'm not that's the guy that was above fifty dollars. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/494">TS</a>]
00:08:21 ◼ ► Oh how I would have killed for fifty dollars back in the day. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/501">TS</a>]
00:08:24 ◼ ► Anyway so the Flamingo never a presidents of No no I don't I cannot believe Fleming was right flurry was one of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/504">TS</a>]
00:08:31 ◼ ► think of the glory floor involved in penicillin and the president of the Royal Society and Australian connections. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/511">TS</a>]
00:08:38 ◼ ► Yeah like a hatrick I think I don't know if he won the Nobel Prize for its reference by the way it was just one point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/518">TS</a>]
00:08:44 ◼ ► that I was preparing for that site having to say having gotten you all excited [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/524">TS</a>]
00:08:48 ◼ ► and talked about these past presidents [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/528">TS</a>]
00:08:50 ◼ ► and we're sitting in the the presidential office now comes the slightly disappointing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/530">TS</a>]
00:08:54 ◼ ► but those presidents did not sit in this office they sat in the previous offices in previous buildings because the role [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/534">TS</a>]
00:09:04 ◼ ► society has not been in the building where in all that land where in a building called Carlton Terrace house I believe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/544">TS</a>]
00:09:12 ◼ ► a cult has yet to Carlton Terrace house I think I think it's one of these things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/552">TS</a>]
00:09:17 ◼ ► and there are these houses everything is OK the house the grand old building. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/557">TS</a>]
00:09:20 ◼ ► Again I have a little bit of information you prepared to give information [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/560">TS</a>]
00:09:25 ◼ ► when we were in the fellow's room before having a having a cup of tea before we started I noticed you ordered a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/565">TS</a>]
00:09:33 ◼ ► specific type of tea. What did you order. I ordered all gravy. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/573">TS</a>]
00:09:37 ◼ ► Well great Do you know this building used to be the House of grass. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/577">TS</a>]
00:09:42 ◼ ► Do the really great grey a grey even more famous than your former prime minister of this country. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/582">TS</a>]
00:09:51 ◼ ► He used to live in this building really with Lady Gray. She also had a tea. Really I didn't. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/591">TS</a>]
00:09:57 ◼ ► What's Nasir out of a grenade. I've actually never had lead to great teachers know that it exists. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/597">TS</a>]
00:10:02 ◼ ► I've never had I've never had any myself form a former home of oh great a number of prime ministers have lived in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/602">TS</a>]
00:10:12 ◼ ► It was built on some gardens that used to be owned by someone called Prince Rupert Prince Rupert of Prince Rupert strop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/612">TS</a>]
00:10:20 ◼ ► fame which is a mame a science experiment which you made even more famous by allowing Testim to perform in your hand an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/620">TS</a>]
00:10:28 ◼ ► exploding piece of glass in your hand. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/628">TS</a>]
00:10:30 ◼ ► Yes yes that was that the random act of intelligent show in Alabama much against my better judgment I did convince [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/630">TS</a>]
00:10:37 ◼ ► destine to allow me to do his famous this glass disc explodes into a million pieces experiment with my hand wrapped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/637">TS</a>]
00:10:44 ◼ ► around it. Can we talk about that last time I cannot believe you let him do that. Did you know he was going to do that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/644">TS</a>]
00:10:53 ◼ ► I believe it because I could use some sort of safety conscious and I always think of you as quiet not a risk taker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/653">TS</a>]
00:11:00 ◼ ► and then when I went and sat on the next flight this piece of glass cannot do it in your hands if you bigger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/660">TS</a>]
00:11:05 ◼ ► and you got up and said Yes I was almost fell out of my chair. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/665">TS</a>]
00:11:08 ◼ ► Let's put this way if you had asked me I would probably have said no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/668">TS</a>]
00:11:15 ◼ ► but I destine if Justin asked me to walk across like a pit of fire recalls I would I would trust destine enough that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/675">TS</a>]
00:11:27 ◼ ► would I would put my safety in his hands. I don't know what to say to that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/687">TS</a>]
00:11:34 ◼ ► but I feel like destiny destiny knows he's only going to be able to ask me for so many favors. Maybe. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/694">TS</a>]
00:11:40 ◼ ► So basically if I want to get you to come on the trip to Everest I was going get destine to ask Destin asking would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/700">TS</a>]
00:11:49 ◼ ► but the reason that I'm willing to go along with destines requests is I feel very confident that he knew that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/709">TS</a>]
00:11:55 ◼ ► actually a safe thing to do. If you see what I mean I don't know if destiny. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/715">TS</a>]
00:12:00 ◼ ► Vouch for the safety of an actual trip to Everest. Do you think I'm not a safe person like I would put you in danger. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/720">TS</a>]
00:12:06 ◼ ► I don't think you'd intentionally put me in danger. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/726">TS</a>]
00:12:08 ◼ ► Brady You can but I think I'd be reckless I was such a strong word [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/728">TS</a>]
00:12:15 ◼ ► but I think the call of adventure is louder in your mind than it is in my mind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/735">TS</a>]
00:12:19 ◼ ► and you might be more willing to overlook some things like the sound of that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/739">TS</a>]
00:12:24 ◼ ► I like the scope of interest yes that's the way it ties in with my whole heart of an image that I'm trying to work with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/744">TS</a>]
00:12:32 ◼ ► Everyone seems to associate that saying With me now which is quite ridiculous because I'm bit of a lightweight anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/752">TS</a>]
00:12:38 ◼ ► so here we have another one final interesting piece of trivia. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/758">TS</a>]
00:12:42 ◼ ► This used to be the German embassy but before the wars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/762">TS</a>]
00:12:47 ◼ ► and it was really interesting before World War One I believe this was the German embassy. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/767">TS</a>]
00:12:52 ◼ ► This part of the building we're in here and obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/772">TS</a>]
00:12:55 ◼ ► when the walk it off the Germans were quite rightly actually asked to leave so the building was sort of left empty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/775">TS</a>]
00:13:04 ◼ ► and it was still considered German territory. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/784">TS</a>]
00:13:06 ◼ ► During World War One and the British are so polite and it was so respectful that I actually didn't do anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/786">TS</a>]
00:13:13 ◼ ► and apparently when the Germans came back after the war and came back into the building all their pipes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/793">TS</a>]
00:13:19 ◼ ► and everything exactly as they left the building was completely untouched through the war which was really interesting. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/799">TS</a>]
00:13:27 ◼ ► World War two when work just before World War two started it sort of became the Nazi embassy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/807">TS</a>]
00:13:33 ◼ ► and so obviously that's not so good and that they were after in World War two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/813">TS</a>]
00:13:38 ◼ ► and they can come back to this building after World War two And that was appropriated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/818">TS</a>]
00:13:43 ◼ ► and it's now government owned building anyway. Interesting fact. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/823">TS</a>]
00:13:47 ◼ ► Former German Embassy former Nazi embassy now home of the sting wisht Royal Society [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/827">TS</a>]
00:13:53 ◼ ► and one other little interesting piece of trivia about it is there is actually the former German ambassador had a much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/833">TS</a>]
00:14:00 ◼ ► So cold gyro abilities which died and its gravestone is still here and you can actually go outside later on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/840">TS</a>]
00:14:08 ◼ ► and see the gravestone of the South German dog. Oh yeah you'll have to show me. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/848">TS</a>]
00:14:12 ◼ ► OK Because you know I know you like dogs. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/852">TS</a>]
00:14:14 ◼ ► I dunno if you buy dead dogs but didn't Gyra have a Facebook page and the slow motion videos. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/854">TS</a>]
00:14:22 ◼ ► I doubt if it was my dog I don't think I don't think the German investor was so big on social media anyway. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/862">TS</a>]
00:14:29 ◼ ► Well over the last four exhausting that trip here is and it's exhausting being in front of you. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/869">TS</a>]
00:14:35 ◼ ► I'm going to live very strict and some have been huge site so I realize you're axed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/875">TS</a>]
00:14:43 ◼ ► and now I know you are a great lover of London. You often just walk the streets aimlessly. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/883">TS</a>]
00:14:53 ◼ ► Try thinking of new ways to get things done. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/893">TS</a>]
00:14:57 ◼ ► Is this a part of London that you do much wondering like we are we in familiar territory here around this part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/897">TS</a>]
00:15:03 ◼ ► London. Yes I would say I would say not the most familiar area but more familiar than most. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/903">TS</a>]
00:15:12 ◼ ► OK So rank your most familiar areas like in your in your peak wondering times what would you rank as the more familiar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/912">TS</a>]
00:15:20 ◼ ► areas were the area that I'm most familiar with that starts at Trafalgar Square [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/920">TS</a>]
00:15:24 ◼ ► and heads over towards London Bridge station. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/924">TS</a>]
00:15:29 ◼ ► That little stretch I'm extremely familiar with but I would say the second most area is kind of Trafalgar Square [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/929">TS</a>]
00:15:36 ◼ ► and then working backwards through Green Park which is what we're against right now. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/936">TS</a>]
00:15:40 ◼ ► And then up into Hyde Park as well so that's an area that I'm really familiar with like a little maybe second if I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/940">TS</a>]
00:15:48 ◼ ► So and I know that you used to take photos of parts of London in another life like a bit of an obsession of yours. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/948">TS</a>]
00:15:56 ◼ ► Did you have a photograph this building or anything around here of course. I'm so building it's going to make a P.D.F. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/956">TS</a>]
00:16:03 ◼ ► So with this but you didn't you never snapped this one in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/963">TS</a>]
00:16:06 ◼ ► and your days I don't think that I did because this is slightly It's slightly off the main road. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/966">TS</a>]
00:16:14 ◼ ► Yeah it's just a little bit back. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/974">TS</a>]
00:16:17 ◼ ► I'm not sure that I ever did but I have to I have to go back through my Flickr photos back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/977">TS</a>]
00:16:22 ◼ ► when I had time to actually have hobbies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/982">TS</a>]
00:16:23 ◼ ► and things that serve the serve no purpose really were no longer out of three pictures I have spent time it's part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/983">TS</a>]
00:16:30 ◼ ► the you have to make it I think that probably Fed didn't quite a lot to what you because you know you sort of see that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/990">TS</a>]
00:16:36 ◼ ► obsession with London and places and I think I think you should feel bad about that era. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/996">TS</a>]
00:16:42 ◼ ► No I know I don't feel bad about it or think it's funny as I probably wouldn't. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1002">TS</a>]
00:16:46 ◼ ► I always toyed with the notion of getting back into photography [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1006">TS</a>]
00:16:48 ◼ ► but I don't think it's ever is not a real possibility but you should have to look back to my old photographs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1008">TS</a>]
00:16:54 ◼ ► and see if I ever did take a picture of this place. OK now maybe we should come on to the point of today right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1014">TS</a>]
00:17:02 ◼ ► The reason we're here the reason we're here as I said the reason we're in the presence of US has nothing to do with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1022">TS</a>]
00:17:07 ◼ ► president say it just because it was one of the quieter things in the building and he happens to be out today. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1027">TS</a>]
00:17:11 ◼ ► Right but you know I have bit of an obsession with old objects. Indeed you do and a lot of science. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1031">TS</a>]
00:17:19 ◼ ► So what's happened is with a bit of help from my friends here particularly a gentleman named Keith Moore who I may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1039">TS</a>]
00:17:26 ◼ ► mention again because Casey is the head librarian here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1046">TS</a>]
00:17:28 ◼ ► and he's a fountain of knowledge so I found his knowledge I should say people tell me of a fountain knowledge he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1048">TS</a>]
00:17:34 ◼ ► found knowledge very helpful. He has he has conspired with me to dig it out some items of interest from the archives. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1054">TS</a>]
00:17:43 ◼ ► There's an incredible archive society and I have dug out a number of items which I want to show to you. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1063">TS</a>]
00:17:52 ◼ ► I saw Shante All right I don't know how you can feel about this because you famously are not a big fan of. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1072">TS</a>]
00:18:00 ◼ ► Objects and stuff but you look at the history interpret this you know I always felt this claim [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1080">TS</a>]
00:18:11 ◼ ► or I don't necessarily want object in my house. I am happy that objects exist in the world. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1091">TS</a>]
00:18:17 ◼ ► I am very happy that a place like this exist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1097">TS</a>]
00:18:19 ◼ ► and that it archives all of the history of science that it has all of these things I really love that these places [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1099">TS</a>]
00:18:25 ◼ ► exist. I'm not hearing what would you say. All I'm thinking is this guy had two objects. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1105">TS</a>]
00:18:31 ◼ ► I know that's all you have here. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1111">TS</a>]
00:18:33 ◼ ► Might as well be was apparent that Charlie Brown right now every time I try to explain it was just what you do if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1113">TS</a>]
00:18:39 ◼ ► you're not going to do that you think. So one by one I am going to reveal objects to me. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1119">TS</a>]
00:18:46 ◼ ► OK now we're recording podcast podcasts do not lend themselves very well to visuals. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1126">TS</a>]
00:18:56 ◼ ► I feel that we have a history though of doing subject that I do you know form of that we tried it with. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1136">TS</a>]
00:19:05 ◼ ► So for those of you listening we would do our best to really vividly describe what we're looking at with incredible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1145">TS</a>]
00:19:12 ◼ ► mastery of words that we have exhibited over the over the last year or so we are trying something else. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1152">TS</a>]
00:19:20 ◼ ► Hopefully this will have worked. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1160">TS</a>]
00:19:21 ◼ ► But what's going to happen is you can look at pictures of these items as well through the show tonight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1161">TS</a>]
00:19:26 ◼ ► but possibly And if you want to hearing me say this we didn't do it but if you are hearing me say this we did do it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1166">TS</a>]
00:19:34 ◼ ► We are running a video camera on the table and we're going to put the items on the table and try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1174">TS</a>]
00:19:41 ◼ ► and sync up the video somehow with the podcast so you can look at these things as we look at them. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1181">TS</a>]
00:19:49 ◼ ► So I don't want to make people who go to a You Tube channel they'll be links and stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1189">TS</a>]
00:19:53 ◼ ► and you can figure it out you're bright people you could figure that so it goes. So if you are hearing me. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1193">TS</a>]
00:20:00 ◼ ► I like the way you think there are people who could figure out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1200">TS</a>]
00:20:02 ◼ ► when we clearly haven't because well all right we're not quite so bright but you can go to the You Tube channel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1202">TS</a>]
00:20:09 ◼ ► and kind of for once we're going to put this pod cast up on You Tube At the same time as the pod cast goes on i Tunes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1209">TS</a>]
00:20:17 ◼ ► Normally it's a month or two behind but you can you can watch this pod cast now and look at these items with us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1217">TS</a>]
00:20:24 ◼ ► but you don't need to if you're on a plane. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1224">TS</a>]
00:20:28 ◼ ► Tam you can do not need to say these items we are going to describe them right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1228">TS</a>]
00:20:36 ◼ ► or if you're performing surgery right now it's you don't need the nurse to bring in a monitor can keep one eye on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1236">TS</a>]
00:20:42 ◼ ► video Exactly. Example would be an audio first experience. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1242">TS</a>]
00:20:47 ◼ ► We're going to going to paint a picture right and our words are worth a thousand pictures. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1247">TS</a>]
00:20:53 ◼ ► Yes So let's do this right I have some items I haven't actually planned order I'm going to show you them later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1253">TS</a>]
00:21:00 ◼ ► and so I was going to make it up in my head now. I'm going to start with a bang. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1260">TS</a>]
00:21:05 ◼ ► OK I know you've got to sort of save the best for last. But you're not going to do it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1265">TS</a>]
00:21:09 ◼ ► Well I've got what I'm most looking forward to showing you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1269">TS</a>]
00:21:13 ◼ ► and I will save that for last cooking because I'm really excited about this one. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1273">TS</a>]
00:21:16 ◼ ► OK but I'm going to start with a bang as well and a real showstopper. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1276">TS</a>]
00:21:20 ◼ ► I'm also starting with bit of a bank because Greg you have been to the Royal Society before with me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1280">TS</a>]
00:21:27 ◼ ► and not spit on the pockets while there. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1287">TS</a>]
00:21:28 ◼ ► Yes Yes And we talked about this we talked about this we went down into the archives. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1288">TS</a>]
00:21:33 ◼ ► You normally a pretty located you not I who likes being photographed from my experience and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1293">TS</a>]
00:21:41 ◼ ► when you saw this item you insisted on getting to touch it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1301">TS</a>]
00:21:46 ◼ ► and you asked me to take a photograph of you holding this item. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1306">TS</a>]
00:21:50 ◼ ► So this is clearly an item that means something and we've got it now so all of us are going to go and get it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1310">TS</a>]
00:21:56 ◼ ► and I'm going to put it on the table and I'm going to reset the camera so the pain. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1316">TS</a>]
00:22:00 ◼ ► What can can say it and then we'll talk about this item. So let me go and get it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1320">TS</a>]
00:22:03 ◼ ► Brady's walking away making exaggerated comical walking gestures. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1323">TS</a>]
00:22:08 ◼ ► That's a Brady doing in the meantime though I'm very thirsty. I'm going to grab a quick drink of water. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1328">TS</a>]
00:22:15 ◼ ► But the protest here is that if you have valuable items you don't keep water in any place they could ever spill on them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1335">TS</a>]
00:22:21 ◼ ► so we have water physically separated from all of the objects where we have today. I'm going to get my water. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1341">TS</a>]
00:22:28 ◼ ► I have placed this item in front of you. Yes. Tell everyone what you say. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1348">TS</a>]
00:22:32 ◼ ► Talk us through what the colors want to own what it looks like trying to picture with your famous therapy voice. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1352">TS</a>]
00:22:39 ◼ ► No No pressure here. First you have an excellent book stand here. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1359">TS</a>]
00:22:46 ◼ ► I remember when we walked in the room we were more impressed by those books than were in a room full of the painting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1366">TS</a>]
00:22:50 ◼ ► and I remember we evolved in human life that bookstand you never know what catches the eye [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1370">TS</a>]
00:22:59 ◼ ► but yet we have a bookstand which is one of those kind of fancy ones where you can have a book open to two pages at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1379">TS</a>]
00:23:06 ◼ ► once the kind of thing that's in a museum where the book is tilted forward so that onlookers can gaze upon the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1386">TS</a>]
00:23:12 ◼ ► magnificence of the book. And on this book stand we have a very old looking hand book. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1392">TS</a>]
00:23:20 ◼ ► If you breeze touching it right now you're allowed to touch it where that touch it and we had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1400">TS</a>]
00:23:24 ◼ ► and we've been instructed to touch it without gloves. Yes this is deliberate. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1404">TS</a>]
00:23:30 ◼ ► So anyone who thinks we should there's an automated one for which we will wear gloves. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1410">TS</a>]
00:23:33 ◼ ► No yet but for this item we're told no gloves is better because we're going to leaf through the pages and if you try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1413">TS</a>]
00:23:39 ◼ ► and leaf through pages wearing gloves that increases the likelihood that you do something clumsy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1419">TS</a>]
00:23:44 ◼ ► and rip the page to the archivists prefer not to wear gloves when dealing with an out of not this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1424">TS</a>]
00:23:52 ◼ ► but continue describing it so looking on the side it is the manuscript of Newton's Principia Mathematica. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1432">TS</a>]
00:24:00 ◼ ► This is like the book of physics in my mind. This is like this is the Bible. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1440">TS</a>]
00:24:04 ◼ ► Yeah I think that is not a not a bad way to describe it because this this book is the place where it least in my mind. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1444">TS</a>]
00:24:14 ◼ ► I've never actually read the book I have to do a confession here. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1454">TS</a>]
00:24:18 ◼ ► We're not going to find the print appears homework and I think this is you getting things done. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1458">TS</a>]
00:24:24 ◼ ► Actually not very interesting to read directly where waiting for the audiobook. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1464">TS</a>]
00:24:31 ◼ ► I hope they can get the author so the print kit is the place where I would describe it as physics kind of became like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1471">TS</a>]
00:24:42 ◼ ► real grown up science because it's the place where instead of just describing like we are now with words the physical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1482">TS</a>]
00:24:51 ◼ ► world. Oh well you know let's let's describe all of these things. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1491">TS</a>]
00:24:55 ◼ ► Oh you know if we roll a boulder down the hills a boulder gets faster as it goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1495">TS</a>]
00:25:00 ◼ ► and this is the kind of state of science before this which is good is better than nothing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1500">TS</a>]
00:25:05 ◼ ► But the is the place where Isaac Newton brought the power of mathematics to bear upon lots of problems with motion in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1505">TS</a>]
00:25:16 ◼ ► particular in the physical world and it is where the calculus was. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1516">TS</a>]
00:25:22 ◼ ► I mean someone else co-invented it at the same time this is this is the way ideas work. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1522">TS</a>]
00:25:26 ◼ ► But I think Newton also independently came up with calculus and applied it to the science of how objects move. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1526">TS</a>]
00:25:34 ◼ ► If you learn physics today the subject of kinematics is where you tend to start that's where real physics begins you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1534">TS</a>]
00:25:41 ◼ ► learn the all the physics students out there will know very well memorizing the kinematic equations the five of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1541">TS</a>]
00:25:46 ◼ ► and having to isolate one of the variables all of that kind of stuff falls out of the printer. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1546">TS</a>]
00:25:53 ◼ ► And that that is where physics really starts in my mind. And Dave you have summed it up beautifully. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1553">TS</a>]
00:26:00 ◼ ► This is no ordinary print get together. Let me tell you about this one. So this is the manuscript. So it's handwritten. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1560">TS</a>]
00:26:07 ◼ ► Isaac Newton's manuscript handwritten this kind of like the final draft before it was printed. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1567">TS</a>]
00:26:13 ◼ ► This is the one that was sent to the printers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1573">TS</a>]
00:26:17 ◼ ► and the composite is for them to then make sort of a type set up proper printed copy. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1577">TS</a>]
00:26:23 ◼ ► I'm going to open a weapon up a few pages here you know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1583">TS</a>]
00:26:27 ◼ ► So as you can say all these pages we're looking at a handwritten. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1587">TS</a>]
00:26:33 ◼ ► Now these one hand written by Isaac Newton himself because apparently Isaac Newton had pretty shoddy handwriting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1593">TS</a>]
00:26:39 ◼ ► and he had an assistant code Humphrey Newton it's ambiguous as to whether or not he's a relation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1599">TS</a>]
00:26:45 ◼ ► and that no one seems to really be sure as far as I can tell. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1605">TS</a>]
00:26:48 ◼ ► But Humphrey Newton wrote this for Sir Isaac Newton who has and he has much better handwriting than Sir Isaac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1608">TS</a>]
00:26:56 ◼ ► but apparently Isaac Newton was always a bit pissed off about continuing because apparently he didn't know much about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1616">TS</a>]
00:27:02 ◼ ► physics and mathematics so I had no idea what he was writing about and I imagine that would limit so index right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1622">TS</a>]
00:27:08 ◼ ► So we're looking here at this final copy. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1628">TS</a>]
00:27:10 ◼ ► But the thing that's really special about this is because this is what the final draft you see along the way here in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1630">TS</a>]
00:27:17 ◼ ► the margins hand written knows things that are underlined. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1637">TS</a>]
00:27:22 ◼ ► Occasionally you see things that have been crossed out little little notes here and there. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1642">TS</a>]
00:27:27 ◼ ► You also see some prints in key thumb prints are probably from the composers who are working in the printing press [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1647">TS</a>]
00:27:33 ◼ ► putting it together you still write you still see all these messy thumbprints everywhere but the handwritten notes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1653">TS</a>]
00:27:39 ◼ ► and the corrections by the hand of two people one of them is so Edmund Halley of Halley's Comet fame who was the man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1659">TS</a>]
00:27:49 ◼ ► who was really instrumental in convincing Isaac Newton that man you need to get this thing published [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1669">TS</a>]
00:27:55 ◼ ► and it was a good friend of Newton. So how he's made a few little comments and corrections. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1675">TS</a>]
00:28:00 ◼ ► But the other the other notes. I buy it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1680">TS</a>]
00:28:03 ◼ ► So Isaac Newton himself say Sir Isaac Newton himself has written notes all over to stop to look at some spilled in life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1683">TS</a>]
00:28:13 ◼ ► a lot of on the pages and this is like it's so it's so old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1693">TS</a>]
00:28:17 ◼ ► and musty it seems so alive to me in many ways you know like oh of course I mean this is is it is interesting to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1697">TS</a>]
00:28:30 ◼ ► to be close to an object that and historical person has handled and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1710">TS</a>]
00:28:38 ◼ ► and for me turn a few pages you should have written that is for me I have this particular feeling about history that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1718">TS</a>]
00:28:47 ◼ ► is I got I'm not always so interested in like the kings and the queens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1727">TS</a>]
00:28:52 ◼ ► and the particular great fingerprints everywhere from from the the printer you get the feeling of like this guy in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1732">TS</a>]
00:29:00 ◼ ► workshop somewhere you know with like an apron like constantly rubbing his hands on his apron God We gotta change this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1740">TS</a>]
00:29:06 ◼ ► and change that what is this. Yeah understand where it is ravaged. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1746">TS</a>]
00:29:11 ◼ ► It's like getting things done for me I think people like Isaac Newton [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1751">TS</a>]
00:29:18 ◼ ► and other scientists are the truly important figures in history because they are the ones who advanced civilization [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1758">TS</a>]
00:29:29 ◼ ► forward without the progress of science. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1769">TS</a>]
00:29:33 ◼ ► You would just always have different kings battling over territory in the mud forever using rocks and sticks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1773">TS</a>]
00:29:42 ◼ ► But but when you have when you have things like calculus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1782">TS</a>]
00:29:45 ◼ ► when you have advancements made that's how things get better that's how things improve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1785">TS</a>]
00:29:51 ◼ ► and so I look at a lot of what people tend to focus on as History of like minor details that fall out of scientific [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1791">TS</a>]
00:30:00 ◼ ► Pickle progress so that's why this to me is like is an amazing document to actually be able to touch with my hands like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1800">TS</a>]
00:30:08 ◼ ► I'm doing right now because Isaac Newton touched it at one point so that does that look at this as it's been crossed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1808">TS</a>]
00:30:13 ◼ ► out in the words re written and things like that all the way through from the ME for one thing in particular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1813">TS</a>]
00:30:18 ◼ ► but I don't mean a fundamental it's a big book. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1818">TS</a>]
00:30:21 ◼ ► It is it is quite volume one of three thing I don't quite understand though I do understand because you just said so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1821">TS</a>]
00:30:28 ◼ ► but but Principia exists you can go online and read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1828">TS</a>]
00:30:31 ◼ ► and the polished final version with all the corrections without the mistakes and without the thumb print exists [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1831">TS</a>]
00:30:37 ◼ ► and for years I would've thought maybe that's all that matters as long as the knowledge is transferred down the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1837">TS</a>]
00:30:41 ◼ ► generations and we know what he wrote and what he said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1841">TS</a>]
00:30:44 ◼ ► and how it's been built on why the thumb prints in the in the McInnes appeals to me is not a side of your personality I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1844">TS</a>]
00:30:51 ◼ ► hear you talk about much that kind of that kind of behind the scenes away that it was made a sort of I always think of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1851">TS</a>]
00:30:59 ◼ ► you more as a more as you know come back and show me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1859">TS</a>]
00:31:02 ◼ ► when you finish it because I don't I don't know I don't want to see how you can I don't see how you made the sausage I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1862">TS</a>]
00:31:09 ◼ ► Well I mean civilization depends on the knowledge being transferred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1869">TS</a>]
00:31:14 ◼ ► and if I had to pick two we get to keep the original book or have the knowledge be transferred. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1874">TS</a>]
00:31:19 ◼ ► This is an extraordinary page look at this so all the right hand facing pages have sort of the manuscript on it with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1879">TS</a>]
00:31:26 ◼ ► little notes next to it but occasionally on these left hand pages that have been left blank. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1886">TS</a>]
00:31:31 ◼ ► You sometimes see like a bit of working after a night [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1891">TS</a>]
00:31:33 ◼ ► and we can turn to one page which is just got a whole bunch of equations on a little sums that are being done on actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1893">TS</a>]
00:31:40 ◼ ► actual mathematics by these people I mean this looks like the Kitimat equations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1900">TS</a>]
00:31:45 ◼ ► or some some early variant of them like this is this is this looks like the gravitational force calculation this is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1905">TS</a>]
00:31:51 ◼ ► interesting thing very interesting to think it's pretty exciting. It's pretty exciting to me. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1911">TS</a>]
00:31:55 ◼ ► It's all that the ink is flaking off almost and some of these some of these a dish. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1915">TS</a>]
00:32:00 ◼ ► Ins that have been made it's such an honor to be allowed to look at this and be left open with this is one time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1920">TS</a>]
00:32:08 ◼ ► So I'm going to turn the book around here so it so that those who are looking at the camera can see it this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1928">TS</a>]
00:32:13 ◼ ► handwriting of Isaac Newton because Casey was very familiar with Newton's handwriting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1933">TS</a>]
00:32:18 ◼ ► and basically he's written James the second by the grace of God to king of so he's writing some sort of Croly Brown [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1938">TS</a>]
00:32:25 ◼ ► nosey about there about the king that obvious right and he's like he's drafting what he wants to write when he wants [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1945">TS</a>]
00:32:31 ◼ ► and he's just stopped midway through like he stopped writing in the let's let's hand writing you know making another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1951">TS</a>]
00:32:36 ◼ ► note on the on the side they're writing about the king you know that's a good politicking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1956">TS</a>]
00:32:41 ◼ ► and brownnosing done a ton of it exactly exactly. So there we go. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1961">TS</a>]
00:32:46 ◼ ► We could look at this I mean I could look at this all day. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1966">TS</a>]
00:32:49 ◼ ► We weren't read any of it take it up believe it's probably written in Latin. I haven't even looked. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1969">TS</a>]
00:32:53 ◼ ► Yeah I can't read any of that I was trying to see I mean there's a few things that pop out like I can see the words [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1973">TS</a>]
00:32:58 ◼ ► angular momentum even if we could read it it could be very hard to understand or follow these old documents even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1978">TS</a>]
00:33:06 ◼ ► when they are written in English. Henry and I'm rubbish at reading them. I really am. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1986">TS</a>]
00:33:12 ◼ ► Anyway that was it because again because of certain kinds of people the language changes over time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1992">TS</a>]
00:33:17 ◼ ► and also it's more the handwriting. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1997">TS</a>]
00:33:19 ◼ ► Like once I sort of see through the handwriting this isn't a good example because in Latin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/1999">TS</a>]
00:33:24 ◼ ► but once I see through the handwriting of these old documents here they're all sorry I thought the language quiet I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/2004">TS</a>]
00:33:30 ◼ ► think I can understand the language. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/2010">TS</a>]
00:33:32 ◼ ► I just can't see through the hand and I think I think I'm better at reading handwriting anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/2012">TS</a>]
00:33:36 ◼ ► but I would never write in person rescript know if you know I you know write all capital letters. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/2016">TS</a>]
00:33:42 ◼ ► My natural hair I think you know that however the capital letters. Just all the time. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/2022">TS</a>]
00:33:50 ◼ ► Yes Do you know how to write lowercase letters did you ever learn. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/2030">TS</a>]
00:33:53 ◼ ► Yes but I stopped when I was in about year five SCO and if you see my writing in like normal. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/2033">TS</a>]
00:34:00 ◼ ► Normal not capitalize letters it looks like a year five student writing like my handwriting is frozen in time. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/2040">TS</a>]
00:34:07 ◼ ► or just normal rushing it looks like a little kid where's my at out writing my whole capitals is is unusual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/2047">TS</a>]
00:34:14 ◼ ► but it looks like an adult writer. It's all caps do you hold the pen just with the fist on the claw right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/2054">TS</a>]
00:34:24 ◼ ► Anyway there we go. Thank you. Have I started well I started with a bang. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/2064">TS</a>]
00:34:29 ◼ ► It's quite an object to start with the thing though I always think about with this kind of amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/2069">TS</a>]
00:34:36 ◼ ► when you deal in the world of physics and mathematics is just how how long lasting it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/2076">TS</a>]
00:34:43 ◼ ► and so it is in this calculus in these equations that were used in no small part to put a man on the moon. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/2083">TS</a>]
00:34:51 ◼ ► Right which now connects to your favorite passion. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/2091">TS</a>]
00:34:54 ◼ ► And I always find that remarkable that you think oh someone did did work a couple hundred years ago and it's true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/2094">TS</a>]
00:35:04 ◼ ► and it is a useful and you can use it a couple hundred years later to accomplish something. It's just very impressive. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/2104">TS</a>]
00:35:14 ◼ ► All right we've managed to look at it without ripping it or breaking it as we haven't broken anything yet. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/2114">TS</a>]
00:35:18 ◼ ► That is a good start. I'm going to take this away. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/2118">TS</a>]
00:35:20 ◼ ► I'm going to walk across the room put the spec in a safe place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/2120">TS</a>]
00:35:23 ◼ ► and I'm going to get another object from the Royal Society is all about preserving forever things that are important. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/2123">TS</a>]
00:35:32 ◼ ► They have seemingly endless collections of important historical documents and paintings and tools and letters. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/2132">TS</a>]
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00:38:33 ◼ ► I don't even know what to say anymore except that Blaze dot com slash hello internet. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/2313">TS</a>]
00:38:40 ◼ ► Do it right now what is it to bring over a whole platter. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/2320">TS</a>]
00:38:46 ◼ ► My very first thought was which of embarrassing is oh it looks just like the maps in The Lord Of The Rings as I say the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/2326">TS</a>]
00:38:53 ◼ ► map is a secondary banking when I was talking with case I want to find things that I thought what a pity. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/2333">TS</a>]
00:38:58 ◼ ► So I had him on the case of flags. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/2338">TS</a>]
00:39:02 ◼ ► Now we didn't have as much luck as I hoped with flags [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/2342">TS</a>]
00:39:04 ◼ ► but we have got a flag here this is actually a flag that's been featured on objectivity which is a channel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/2344">TS</a>]
00:39:10 ◼ ► but which is a channel I do all about objects you know side effects some people may be familiar with this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/2350">TS</a>]
00:39:15 ◼ ► Not that many unfortunately but some people say this this is a flag here we go. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/2355">TS</a>]
00:39:22 ◼ ► and as you can say you've been through some challenges the day like there's not a whole lot of it left. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/2362">TS</a>]
00:39:29 ◼ ► This is a flag that will be familiar to you know the union jack. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/2369">TS</a>]
00:39:34 ◼ ► It is the union jack your sign the Union Jack you're just inviting controversy. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/2374">TS</a>]
00:39:39 ◼ ► I am not the Union it's the union jack or the union flag or whatever you want to call it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/2379">TS</a>]
00:39:44 ◼ ► but it has really been ripped to shreds. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/2384">TS</a>]
00:39:47 ◼ ► It's a Union Jack right there on the on the label itself it's going to say I'm trying to think that you can read the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/2387">TS</a>]
00:39:53 ◼ ► tax everyone practices tag says Union Jack Sloan on Tower at Penguin leap. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/2393">TS</a>]
00:40:00 ◼ ► A raised by advance party in one nine hundred fifty six taken down third September one nine hundred fifty seven Look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/2400">TS</a>]
00:40:08 ◼ ► and penguins in the one thing that there's a hell of Internet perfect stone so as great as told you this was a Union [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/2408">TS</a>]
00:40:16 ◼ ► Jack that was flying in Antarctica. OK Halle Berry is in Antarctica. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/2416">TS</a>]
00:40:21 ◼ ► It is the Royal Society sent a science expedition down this flag flew above the base there for well we say there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/2421">TS</a>]
00:40:29 ◼ ► that we don't know exactly about a year year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/2429">TS</a>]
00:40:31 ◼ ► and a half a year so this gray gives you an idea what happens to a flag exactly a year flapping in the Antarctic wind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/2431">TS</a>]
00:40:41 ◼ ► and it looks like a well my Atlantic nights well stitched and it's like it's a real it's a good flag [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/2441">TS</a>]
00:40:46 ◼ ► but it has really just it's just been taken to town by the wind though as it happens the flags the if you're looking at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/2446">TS</a>]
00:40:53 ◼ ► the flag the mast side of you can forget all my property. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/2453">TS</a>]
00:40:57 ◼ ► Flags terminology here but the side that would be against the mast is mostly OK [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/2457">TS</a>]
00:41:01 ◼ ► but then as you go toward the side that flaps in the wind it's just gotten torn to shreds and the weight is but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/2461">TS</a>]
00:41:09 ◼ ► and believe is now off the top my heads I may be wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/2469">TS</a>]
00:41:12 ◼ ► but I believe that that that snapping sound from Flags is partly a result of that under the right circumstances it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/2472">TS</a>]
00:41:18 ◼ ► actually breaking the speed of sound that it's cracking in the air like a whip. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/2478">TS</a>]
00:41:22 ◼ ► Yeah and that's why it gets so frayed at the end is that you don't know you know is flag is just up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/2482">TS</a>]
00:41:27 ◼ ► and just up there in the wind but it's actually under a lot of stress and strain at the very edge. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/2487">TS</a>]
00:41:32 ◼ ► So that's why five minute looking looking pretty rough and I imagine Antarctica has some pretty strong winds. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/2492">TS</a>]
00:41:37 ◼ ► So there's a flag and you mentioned this Lord Of The Rings map underneath. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/2497">TS</a>]
00:41:41 ◼ ► So I'm going to move this tatty old but special flag away. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/2501">TS</a>]
00:41:46 ◼ ► And basically this is just showing me where this expedition took place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/2506">TS</a>]
00:41:51 ◼ ► and where the flag flow as Grey said this map looks just like a lot of the things about it is the writing on it could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/2511">TS</a>]
00:41:57 ◼ ► not be more Lord Of The Rings and a nice little. On the map is someone's drawn like a little while in the sea. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/2517">TS</a>]
00:42:05 ◼ ► It's like water coming out of its blow hole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/2525">TS</a>]
00:42:08 ◼ ► and I've written next to it while blowing October thirty one nineteen fifty six so there was a sort of glowing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/2528">TS</a>]
00:42:15 ◼ ► when they decided that was worthy of going on the map although I don't imagine that's a particularly permanent fixture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/2535">TS</a>]
00:42:21 ◼ ► but you have all of the space which is just going to be the water so you might as well fill it with things that you see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/2541">TS</a>]
00:42:26 ◼ ► and I do like that they have done an adorable little like a child would draw the water coming out of the top of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/2546">TS</a>]
00:42:31 ◼ ► well kind of going up in a straight line and then going over the sides [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/2551">TS</a>]
00:42:34 ◼ ► but there are a few other touches on the map that do give it that Lord Of The Rings feel like there's talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/2554">TS</a>]
00:42:39 ◼ ► distant cliffs writings like that say well I'll take some extra pictures of this map [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/2559">TS</a>]
00:42:44 ◼ ► and put it in the show tonight so people can really absorb it the way we're absorbing it as a big one you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/2564">TS</a>]
00:42:50 ◼ ► whole portfolio. It looks like you're carrying over for a book and mean it's as big as your torso and book is huge. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/2570">TS</a>]
00:42:59 ◼ ► It's it's only just in the same table. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/2579">TS</a>]
00:43:03 ◼ ► when I was preparing for today I really wanted to make it more about you than me so I was I was sort of saying to case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/2583">TS</a>]
00:43:11 ◼ ► that fun things will be of interest to grow and I was thinking of you know your Piccolo's interests [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/2591">TS</a>]
00:43:18 ◼ ► and I had a name on the side which said Matthew Flinders which is a name that will mean nothing to you means nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/2598">TS</a>]
00:43:24 ◼ ► but for a stray and then particularly the straight line here we go. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/2604">TS</a>]
00:43:27 ◼ ► Here's the thing for a South Australian It is a big deal. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/2607">TS</a>]
00:43:31 ◼ ► and particularly South astride was named after Flinders because he was an explorer who discovered a lot of that part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/2611">TS</a>]
00:43:37 ◼ ► this trial or you know did a lot of the early me he discovered it in the in the white man's sense of the word and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/2617">TS</a>]
00:43:44 ◼ ► and I can even get into debates about who found what first but Flinders did a lot of the mapping of the strata. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/2624">TS</a>]
00:43:50 ◼ ► So I said kind of a quick look at that book just for personal interest. Massive book case got it out. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/2630">TS</a>]
00:43:55 ◼ ► He opened up to a particular page and by luck he opened up to the page that I've opened up. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/2635">TS</a>]
00:44:00 ◼ ► So here and I looked it up and I've never I cannot tell you the emotions this made me feel this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/2640">TS</a>]
00:44:07 ◼ ► This sent chills down my spine and I have the excitement I felt was something quite extraordinary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/2647">TS</a>]
00:44:16 ◼ ► and I still still feel it now to look at this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/2656">TS</a>]
00:44:19 ◼ ► Now again this way mean a tremendous amount to you looking at this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/2659">TS</a>]
00:44:23 ◼ ► and I came to where the water so the water is through the water is your side has the land at the bottom of a strike. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/2663">TS</a>]
00:44:31 ◼ ► OK this is South Australia where I'm from right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/2671">TS</a>]
00:44:35 ◼ ► and here where my finger is is where Adelaide of the city I'm from is now located. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/2675">TS</a>]
00:44:42 ◼ ► But this is the first time anyone has ever gone there whole parts of the coast for example this is a famous island here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/2682">TS</a>]
00:44:49 ◼ ► called Kangaroo Island this island hasn't even been fully mapped it's like there's a map sort of got pieces missing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/2689">TS</a>]
00:44:56 ◼ ► where they ashame mandible Bay This is like my home been discovered for the first time and nothing nothing's there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/2696">TS</a>]
00:45:04 ◼ ► and he's come and he sailed along these waters in this land [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/2704">TS</a>]
00:45:07 ◼ ► and he says he's writing down what he's saying for the first time on this peninsula here where there is now the huge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/2707">TS</a>]
00:45:15 ◼ ► There's just nothing there's nothing there and he's sailing along [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/2715">TS</a>]
00:45:18 ◼ ► and he's writing notes about the things that he's saying like oh I saw a fire here obviously you know some of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/2718">TS</a>]
00:45:25 ◼ ► natives we have originates were lighting fires because this is a guy on a plane whether the kind of people Aboriginal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/2725">TS</a>]
00:45:30 ◼ ► people live and you know I'm seeing smoke so much smoke here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/2730">TS</a>]
00:45:35 ◼ ► and most exciting ago overlooking the city of Adelaide is a you could call it a mountain maybe this is a very large [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/2735">TS</a>]
00:45:43 ◼ ► over the mountains called Mount Lofty on top of a step on top of the television towers broadcast into Adelaide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/2743">TS</a>]
00:45:50 ◼ ► and you go up there's a restaurant up there it's a scenic place to go. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/2750">TS</a>]
00:45:53 ◼ ► I cannot conduct five I'd like and here he's seen it for the first time and given the name Mt Lofty like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/2753">TS</a>]
00:46:00 ◼ ► On his on his first match I was told was told not to call them out lefty. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/2760">TS</a>]
00:46:04 ◼ ► So here like this is like this is the discovery of my home. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/2764">TS</a>]
00:46:09 ◼ ► I cannot tell you how much it excites me to look at this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/2769">TS</a>]
00:46:11 ◼ ► and then I did say this has to be on the podcast America is going to have is going to have nothing to say about it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/2771">TS</a>]
00:46:17 ◼ ► Well but it just it actually makes me really much you know it's amazing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/2777">TS</a>]
00:46:22 ◼ ► Tell me why does it make you really emotional comics but I I'm looking at you right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/2782">TS</a>]
00:46:26 ◼ ► and I can I can tell that you are genuinely emotional. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/2786">TS</a>]
00:46:29 ◼ ► A comics plane I mean a stranger hasn't even on the metrics as terrorists trial is a strike isn't even named yet it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/2789">TS</a>]
00:46:38 ◼ ► This map has become like the back of my hand like if there's any map I know it's South Australia my home state [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/2798">TS</a>]
00:46:44 ◼ ► and the cities in the towns and all these familiar things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/2804">TS</a>]
00:46:47 ◼ ► and here it is still being half drawn for the first time like it's not even I don't even know what today it looks like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/2807">TS</a>]
00:46:54 ◼ ► the main thing to me I wish you were mad like right now because someone else from Adelaide we would just be here like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/2814">TS</a>]
00:47:01 ◼ ► salivating all over this and getting thinking you know Maisie is well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/2821">TS</a>]
00:47:04 ◼ ► and that's why I wish this is where I always wish I was a better interviewer because I was loved I would love to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/2824">TS</a>]
00:47:09 ◼ ► able to have you articulate why you feel this way. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/2829">TS</a>]
00:47:12 ◼ ► I can't you asked there's nothing wrong with us you know you said you are the perfect Western What do you feel why do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/2832">TS</a>]
00:47:17 ◼ ► you feel that there is just no words for I don't know it's like I'm trying to think of the nearest thing to is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/2837">TS</a>]
00:47:23 ◼ ► occasionally when I see like a photo of my wife when she was like a little baby a little girl [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/2843">TS</a>]
00:47:27 ◼ ► and I would say that I was a little like oh well you know you existed you know like you have the whole you had this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/2847">TS</a>]
00:47:34 ◼ ► whole thing like you would you want just a little you once a baby and rather this important part of my life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/2854">TS</a>]
00:47:41 ◼ ► and this is kind of this is like seeing where I'm from as a baby this is seeing where I'm from you know in the womb [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/2861">TS</a>]
00:47:48 ◼ ► almost like wow it's not even an even match it there's nothing there. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/2868">TS</a>]
00:47:51 ◼ ► This part of the map on the peninsula here between the mountain range. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/2871">TS</a>]
00:47:55 ◼ ► Sorry pop concerts and there's like a mountain range and there's a thin plain of land and then. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/2875">TS</a>]
00:48:00 ◼ ► As the city all the beaches of Adelaide. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/2880">TS</a>]
00:48:02 ◼ ► This is just a huge city now and and here Matthew Flinders is sailing up into the Gulf of St Vincent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/2882">TS</a>]
00:48:09 ◼ ► and there's nothing there's nothing there. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/2889">TS</a>]
00:48:11 ◼ ► He's like oh there's a mountain and this trees [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/2891">TS</a>]
00:48:13 ◼ ► and although I think I see some smoke over there from not probably the natives launching a fire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/2893">TS</a>]
00:48:19 ◼ ► and that's all there is and now it's my home. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/2899">TS</a>]
00:48:21 ◼ ► But one day this will be home to the mighty Blackstone is the muddy black stone which is a bell there with my fingers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/2901">TS</a>]
00:48:29 ◼ ► and you can see the kind of but I don't know what to call it in our language [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/2909">TS</a>]
00:48:33 ◼ ► but the kind of etching almost of the very fine lines that are making of all the details of the mountains [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/2913">TS</a>]
00:48:40 ◼ ► and the amount of human labor and effort that used to have to go into producing things like this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/2920">TS</a>]
00:48:49 ◼ ► I think modern people can't can't understand that that amount of time and effort and that's why you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/2929">TS</a>]
00:48:58 ◼ ► and in movies that have the medieval settings people are always really careless with the old maps right I was like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/2938">TS</a>]
00:49:05 ◼ ► or just slamming a knife through the middle that was like you know if you like your team of Monk because to produce [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/2945">TS</a>]
00:49:10 ◼ ► that map with so many man hours ago we don't just have a stack of them he has out of the troops because sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/2950">TS</a>]
00:49:17 ◼ ► or like a Hanna now Master everybody has agreed to give you the riches of by twenty map you know why you've been while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/2957">TS</a>]
00:49:26 ◼ ► you've been waging this war the riches divide twenty events. I tell you a good story about this passage of order here. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/2966">TS</a>]
00:49:33 ◼ ► Oh boy this is called the Baxters packet the Baxter's passage which sounds kind of really really really good anyway. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/2973">TS</a>]
00:49:43 ◼ ► The backstairs passages in the seventy's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/2983">TS</a>]
00:49:46 ◼ ► and that's what they use in explaining never make the rude things happen let's give up what the seventy's. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/2986">TS</a>]
00:49:54 ◼ ► So it's only where this waterway between the city of Adelaide and this island called can grow. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/2994">TS</a>]
00:50:03 ◼ ► Many years back when I was when I was still working had led a Southern right whale died and sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3003">TS</a>]
00:50:09 ◼ ► when a wild dies it floats to the surface [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3009">TS</a>]
00:50:12 ◼ ► and there was this whale floating floating there in this passage that fairies used to get terrorists across to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3012">TS</a>]
00:50:21 ◼ ► So people didn't know about this because I got boats and you don't want to crash into a while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3021">TS</a>]
00:50:25 ◼ ► but the other thing that often happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3025">TS</a>]
00:50:27 ◼ ► when you get these dead whales floating in the water is great white sharks which inhabit these waters. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3027">TS</a>]
00:50:33 ◼ ► Think this is brilliant is like an all you can eat buffet. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3033">TS</a>]
00:50:36 ◼ ► So what happens is you get ten fifteen great white sharks basically just camped there for a week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3036">TS</a>]
00:50:45 ◼ ► Norrin on this while I consoled Norrin on about only two great white sharks all around in a circle like spokes on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3045">TS</a>]
00:50:52 ◼ ► So this bill has just attacked and chopping away everything in the juggling much pretty much like like leeches [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3052">TS</a>]
00:50:57 ◼ ► or something and it's extraordinary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3057">TS</a>]
00:51:01 ◼ ► and it's not that common to happen in such a world populated area so it became a real tourist thing in tourist boats [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3061">TS</a>]
00:51:07 ◼ ► were going out there to go and go and see the great white sharks not dead while that's disgusting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3067">TS</a>]
00:51:12 ◼ ► but ever to see a great white shark. So I think a dozen of them in one place. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3072">TS</a>]
00:51:16 ◼ ► So people started flying in from all around the world to come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3076">TS</a>]
00:51:20 ◼ ► and be taken out in boats into the Baxter's passage to go and watch the great white shark helicopters were going up. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3080">TS</a>]
00:51:28 ◼ ► and one guy who was the craziest of all he became like known as a national idiot he was watching on a boat next to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3088">TS</a>]
00:51:36 ◼ ► and He got a bit excited and stupid and he jumped off his boat on to the wild [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3096">TS</a>]
00:51:41 ◼ ► and I stood on the wild which is like an upturn by itself standing on his big fleshy Wyo surrounded by great projects [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3101">TS</a>]
00:51:47 ◼ ► national idiot. Now it gets better. He did it. Holding a young child like a baby he was holding a baby. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3107">TS</a>]
00:51:55 ◼ ► Jumped off his boat onto a wobbly floating while being eaten by sharks. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3115">TS</a>]
00:52:00 ◼ ► It's because he just said it was because it was filmed by everyone and photographed and he became a pariah. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3120">TS</a>]
00:52:04 ◼ ► But I always look for video footage and photos of A [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3124">TS</a>]
00:52:07 ◼ ► but it was so long ago that you can't find on You Tube on the Internet so it's kind of burned in my memory if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3127">TS</a>]
00:52:13 ◼ ► actually say I'll probably be really disappointed but it was such an extraordinary thing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3133">TS</a>]
00:52:17 ◼ ► If anyone caught footage of a tweet right. No known going to police that they would get. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3137">TS</a>]
00:52:25 ◼ ► Let's put this map away this is a very special episode of hello internet is brought to you by igloo and internet. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3145">TS</a>]
00:52:32 ◼ ► You will actually like that's an intra net not in turn that if you don't like the Internet well there's not really much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3152">TS</a>]
00:52:42 ◼ ► but if you don't like your intro Anette the thing that your company uses to let you access all of the files at work. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3162">TS</a>]
00:52:49 ◼ ► You can fix that igloo let your company share news organize your files coordinate calendars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3169">TS</a>]
00:52:55 ◼ ► and manage projects all in one place and igloos latest upgrade Viking revolves around the documents [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3175">TS</a>]
00:53:01 ◼ ► and how you interact with them. Gather feedback and make changes. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3181">TS</a>]
00:53:05 ◼ ► They've even added the ability to track who has critical information and keep everyone on the same page. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3185">TS</a>]
00:53:11 ◼ ► It's like read receipts in your email but less annoying to help you track who's read what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3191">TS</a>]
00:53:16 ◼ ► and who's knowledge what agreements have been signed off on and confirmed and who seem the vital [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3196">TS</a>]
00:53:22 ◼ ► and important update to a document that you've just made this kind of thing is almost impossible on most companies in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3202">TS</a>]
00:53:30 ◼ ► trying that. I certainly know when I worked at the various schools that I did all of their Internets. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3210">TS</a>]
00:53:35 ◼ ► Where were piles of dog mess is the best way to put it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3215">TS</a>]
00:53:39 ◼ ► Just endless folders of Word documents with folders and Word documents [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3219">TS</a>]
00:53:44 ◼ ► and no kind of structure no idea who's looked at what no idea who was in charge of what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3224">TS</a>]
00:53:49 ◼ ► or who was working on what had I known about a glue. I would have bagged bag the I.T. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3229">TS</a>]
00:53:55 ◼ ► Departments at my various schools to switch over to this if you were listening to me. Your one of those I.T. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3235">TS</a>]
00:54:02 ◼ ► Departments in a company somewhere. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3242">TS</a>]
00:54:03 ◼ ► Just go to a glue Software dot com slash hello so they know you came from us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3243">TS</a>]
00:54:08 ◼ ► and rest your eyes on the much better looking Internet that you have the power to bring to your company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3248">TS</a>]
00:54:16 ◼ ► and then look back at the horrible Internet that you are using that looks like it was built in the one nine hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3256">TS</a>]
00:54:22 ◼ ► ninety S. and Give it a try instead. You can sign up for a free trial at iglu Software dot com slash hello once again. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3262">TS</a>]
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00:54:39 ◼ ► Once again we would like to thank igloo software for their support of this very special episode of hello internet. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3279">TS</a>]
00:54:47 ◼ ► It's glove time Oakland time OK we're going to put on the gloves. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3287">TS</a>]
00:54:51 ◼ ► These are just objectively gloves these on the objectivity. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3291">TS</a>]
00:54:54 ◼ ► Are there special set in my camera bag that they are similar to them. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3294">TS</a>]
00:55:00 ◼ ► Now why do we have to wear gloves for this one because it's time for a porch corner. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3300">TS</a>]
00:55:04 ◼ ► Every We love talking watches you love your porch. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3304">TS</a>]
00:55:09 ◼ ► I love my spade master which I'm not wearing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3309">TS</a>]
00:55:11 ◼ ► and I'm actually because I do want to tap on the table such over my back that I should take him out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3311">TS</a>]
00:55:16 ◼ ► or not I'm busy tapping on the table [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3316">TS</a>]
00:55:18 ◼ ► and making all kinds of Philly noises the Brady keeps giving me silent hand gestures to stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3318">TS</a>]
00:55:22 ◼ ► and ask Martin to tell you off. Yeah. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3322">TS</a>]
00:55:24 ◼ ► So it's time for a walk in front of us is a is a box I'm opening the box and I'm taking out a small golden now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3324">TS</a>]
00:55:36 ◼ ► and this today you can have a look at me with that is that is a solid item you look at. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3336">TS</a>]
00:55:43 ◼ ► Yeah what you think about pocket watches could not objects on the ice. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3343">TS</a>]
00:55:47 ◼ ► Yeah I was I'm just looking at it it's I was looking at the design of the watch face. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3347">TS</a>]
00:55:53 ◼ ► So the whole thing is very very gold and as the Roman numerals going around the edges for each of the hours. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3353">TS</a>]
00:56:00 ◼ ► That hands are gold is kind of gold the spiral pattern in the center of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3360">TS</a>]
00:56:04 ◼ ► and round the edges there's lots of cool detailing. I do like it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3364">TS</a>]
00:56:08 ◼ ► If I thought I was getting a pocket watch I want a little bit more contrast between the hands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3368">TS</a>]
00:56:13 ◼ ► and the background like I want I would want to higher contrast for glancing at it quickly. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3373">TS</a>]
00:56:18 ◼ ► Presumably what I'm trying to catch a train in the eight hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3378">TS</a>]
00:56:21 ◼ ► or something I don't know if that's what I'm using this watch for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3381">TS</a>]
00:56:24 ◼ ► but what would you think if I told you you were holding Isaac Newton's watch. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3384">TS</a>]
00:56:30 ◼ ► How would you be impressed I would be quite impressed. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3390">TS</a>]
00:56:33 ◼ ► There's a famous painting of you really I think I should say here that came out of the painting. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3393">TS</a>]
00:56:41 ◼ ► Isaac Newton pointing at a coat pocket watch on the table and talk of what it was donated to the Royal Society. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3401">TS</a>]
00:56:47 ◼ ► So as it means cockroach. Lovely. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3407">TS</a>]
00:56:50 ◼ ► Impressed I am I am very impressed and wondering is how accurate a pocket watch from that time would be. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3410">TS</a>]
00:57:00 ◼ ► Here's a better question how accurate is the claim that this is this is this is always the thing with historical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3420">TS</a>]
00:57:10 ◼ ► OK Even special commission to take off one glove to handle the hand of optional Hunter we're going to open up the works. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3430">TS</a>]
00:57:17 ◼ ► Need a finger to keep a weaker open I've opened up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3437">TS</a>]
00:57:20 ◼ ► and up the sort of the glow of the cold case that it is in oh that's interesting. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3440">TS</a>]
00:57:24 ◼ ► The thing that I was thinking was the whole pocket watch has a case around the outside of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3444">TS</a>]
00:57:30 ◼ ► and in inside of it is actually much smaller object that than the actual pocket watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3450">TS</a>]
00:57:35 ◼ ► and have taken the smaller watch out and I'm turning around we have an engraving on the back. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3455">TS</a>]
00:57:41 ◼ ► Mrs Kesse conduit who was a relative in care of us at noon to sell Isaac Newton January fourth seven tane I wait so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3461">TS</a>]
00:57:54 ◼ ► this is the same in quite promising the engravings seems seems to indicate that you're doing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3474">TS</a>]
00:58:00 ◼ ► You know that's a relative relative and close friend of Newton giving something to Newton on a date [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3480">TS</a>]
00:58:06 ◼ ► when he was so switched to well I'm sure the a lot of it is a problem with this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3486">TS</a>]
00:58:12 ◼ ► and that is there is a whole muck from the watchmaker on here which will sort of gold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3492">TS</a>]
00:58:18 ◼ ► and jewelry has like the tradesmen market department stamp a whole market any Joyce any piece of silver [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3498">TS</a>]
00:58:25 ◼ ► or gold you do have a whole month stamped into it and when you check the whole mark on this watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3505">TS</a>]
00:58:31 ◼ ► and investigate other things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3511">TS</a>]
00:58:32 ◼ ► when that face was manufactured which is legal in the know you can do it tell you that this watch was manufactured [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3512">TS</a>]
00:58:39 ◼ ► after so I think you can died so pretty much this is a fake. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3519">TS</a>]
00:58:46 ◼ ► So it's a fake this is bogus if you think why are we being so careful with the gloves. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3526">TS</a>]
00:58:51 ◼ ► Well it's still really really really valuable. It's still it's still a gold watch from the seventeen hundreds. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3531">TS</a>]
00:59:00 ◼ ► Like people power money for them. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3540">TS</a>]
00:59:02 ◼ ► So let me put this up with not Isaac Newton's system in some ways in some ways the fact that it has gone all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3542">TS</a>]
00:59:10 ◼ ► years purporting to be Isaac Newton's and is not is part of the fun of it as well sometimes. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3550">TS</a>]
00:59:15 ◼ ► Sometimes these hoax objects like the Hitler diaries [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3555">TS</a>]
00:59:18 ◼ ► and things like that in them so was taken as a story in a personality of their own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3558">TS</a>]
00:59:23 ◼ ► and I feel that way a little bit about this watch it would be better if it was Isaac Newton's watch. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3563">TS</a>]
00:59:28 ◼ ► But the fact that it kind of got it was donated to the rolls audience is watching this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3568">TS</a>]
00:59:33 ◼ ► and it was kind of promoted as this and treated like this and treated with all this reverence and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3573">TS</a>]
00:59:39 ◼ ► and then people start investigating and I have a paper that was written here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3579">TS</a>]
00:59:45 ◼ ► and then the title of the tape is a bogus Newtonian curiosity at the Royal Society and when was this written. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3585">TS</a>]
00:59:53 ◼ ► This was written in two thousand and one. OK. He writes a big long paper I'm not going to go into all the data. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3593">TS</a>]
01:00:00 ◼ ► but he investigated over things like the hallmarks in a case which is the watch part of self is hold on seventeen twenty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3600">TS</a>]
01:00:09 ◼ ► Newton died in seven hundred twenty seven so it's that it was the watch was made at least two years after Newton [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3609">TS</a>]
01:00:15 ◼ ► launched later on I thought possibly it was May even later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3615">TS</a>]
01:00:19 ◼ ► and then all sorts of other issues come into play as well including the change between calendars we throw. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3619">TS</a>]
01:00:25 ◼ ► Yes So some of the things to do with changing between calendars you know Gregorian and the like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3625">TS</a>]
01:00:31 ◼ ► Make them think that maybe this watch is even new or even new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3631">TS</a>]
01:00:35 ◼ ► or even you wouldn't claim to perhaps sort of the seventeen fifties seven hundred forty S. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3635">TS</a>]
01:00:40 ◼ ► So presumably someone was trying to cash in on Isaac Newton in a same time I mean it's things like someone has put the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3640">TS</a>]
01:00:47 ◼ ► engraving on obviously some of that in graving on saying this was given to Isaac Newton etc etc right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3647">TS</a>]
01:00:54 ◼ ► and Newton was long dead right. So that's a bit naughty. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3654">TS</a>]
01:00:58 ◼ ► It is not a Brady but sometimes people will do things for money that are naughty. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3658">TS</a>]
01:01:04 ◼ ► You better just thing you're looking at me with innocent eyes of like oh I can't believe someone would a fake a watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3664">TS</a>]
01:01:14 ◼ ► and someone would fake a historical object. Oh my. Well yes sometimes these things happen. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3674">TS</a>]
01:01:19 ◼ ► I thought this was quite a pity because you know his me saying out objects are pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3679">TS</a>]
01:01:26 ◼ ► and we should all bathe in the glory of our objects [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3686">TS</a>]
01:01:29 ◼ ► and this is an opportunity for you to say the older something is the more chance of things like this happening fakery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3689">TS</a>]
01:01:36 ◼ ► things being things are less reliable the older they get. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3696">TS</a>]
01:01:39 ◼ ► I mean this is a this is a valuable lesson and not less in the rocks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3699">TS</a>]
01:01:42 ◼ ► but it needs to learn I mean I've got a hyper expert expects to spend all their time writing papers about this this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3702">TS</a>]
01:01:49 ◼ ► an entire field of trying to determine the authenticity of old objects [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3709">TS</a>]
01:01:53 ◼ ► and trying to trying to member I may have this book wrong but I remember reading a book a while back I think it was. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3713">TS</a>]
01:02:00 ◼ ► All the men in the high tower in there one of the characters discusses that he he has like a cigarette lighter that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3720">TS</a>]
01:02:07 ◼ ► prevented through just accident like the assassination of a of a historical president [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3727">TS</a>]
01:02:11 ◼ ► and he has this little cigarette lighter. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3731">TS</a>]
01:02:14 ◼ ► And here though I know that it's real because I have like the letter of authenticity that goes along with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3734">TS</a>]
01:02:21 ◼ ► and then he pulls out a an identical cigarette lighter made at the same time at the same year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3741">TS</a>]
01:02:26 ◼ ► and he says you know well what is the difference between these two objects that like one has a letter of authenticity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3746">TS</a>]
01:02:35 ◼ ► But I can just switch these to when you're not looking and then you know do you know which one is which. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3755">TS</a>]
01:02:40 ◼ ► I think the whole notion of of trying to keep track of particular objects is a surprisingly difficult one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3760">TS</a>]
01:02:50 ◼ ► and in many ways I think of the reasons why places like museums exist. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3770">TS</a>]
01:02:56 ◼ ► Would you try to collect things at the time and keep them under your control [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3776">TS</a>]
01:03:01 ◼ ► and keep passing them on because otherwise when things turn up it's very hard to know is this a real claim [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3781">TS</a>]
01:03:10 ◼ ► However you like to pronounce that there's one thing we can agree on surely Hava is a great service for registering to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3790">TS</a>]
01:03:16 ◼ ► If you did anything on the Web whether professional or personal securing a good solid to my name it's really important. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3796">TS</a>]
01:03:22 ◼ ► Hava makes this shape and more importantly super simple. I've got a really elegant website. It's super easy to use. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3802">TS</a>]
01:03:29 ◼ ► Now if you were doing things work related on the web I'll be surprised if you haven't already got a code to my name. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3809">TS</a>]
01:03:34 ◼ ► If you haven't you better get on that. But even if you're doing things just for fun a cool U.R.L. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3814">TS</a>]
01:03:39 ◼ ► Can be really good fun and worth having. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3819">TS</a>]
01:03:41 ◼ ► For example say hypothetically you have a picture well and you want to show off all your pictures and videos. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3821">TS</a>]
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01:03:55 ◼ ► and then bingo you've got a great catch in U.R.L. That you can share with your friends. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3835">TS</a>]
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01:04:05 ◼ ► and then show off a whole bunch of things about the printer you might want to try a different suffix [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3845">TS</a>]
01:04:09 ◼ ► and Hava has a huge range from those typical dot coms right through to all the weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3849">TS</a>]
01:04:14 ◼ ► and wonderful ones like don't go to ruin dot plumbing dot cricket a favorite of mine. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3854">TS</a>]
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01:05:05 ◼ ► The code is object because we're talking about objects today obviously that's ten percent of Harvard can use the code [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3905">TS</a>]
01:05:13 ◼ ► object and a huge thanks to hava for supporting the special episode of hello internet. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3913">TS</a>]
01:05:20 ◼ ► We have another book looking thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3920">TS</a>]
01:05:22 ◼ ► but it actually looks like it's going to be a collection of paper in your portfolio something like a phone book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3922">TS</a>]
01:05:28 ◼ ► but it is a book with sheets that are not like the ones taken a pretty stick like a glue stick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3928">TS</a>]
01:05:34 ◼ ► and as fixed a very large number of individual letters into this book these are an assortment of manuscripts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3934">TS</a>]
01:05:42 ◼ ► and papers and letters and speeches and this is all written in English [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3942">TS</a>]
01:05:46 ◼ ► and said these are things that you people that you and I can just read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3946">TS</a>]
01:05:48 ◼ ► and find the gems in so they know is what gives you my fan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3948">TS</a>]
01:05:53 ◼ ► and I'm going to show you a real gem a look at this this is not what we're looking for the look is pictures of jawbones. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3953">TS</a>]
01:06:00 ◼ ► We're just growing scrolling through through this book and suddenly this very detailed pictures and jawbones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3960">TS</a>]
01:06:07 ◼ ► and it was like the focusing on the teeth placements that sometimes just is obviously written in about jawbones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3967">TS</a>]
01:06:12 ◼ ► and sentence observations of the sun. There's all sorts of things here. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3972">TS</a>]
01:06:18 ◼ ► Oh look at this this is this is amazing isn't it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3978">TS</a>]
01:06:21 ◼ ► You can see why I started objectivity because you come to the Royal Society for one thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3981">TS</a>]
01:06:25 ◼ ► and you had me thinking well what's this thing this to fix like it's plants that are being thrown [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3985">TS</a>]
01:06:30 ◼ ► and it was like a stem cross section you know flown flown down like fancy stuff. Once on the telescopes. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/3990">TS</a>]
01:06:45 ◼ ► I'm sorry if Brady will get lost in diagrams and old letters so I love this. I just love this is what this is. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4005">TS</a>]
01:06:52 ◼ ► I could spend all my life just looking through these OK because they weren't living through right now is this all from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4012">TS</a>]
01:06:57 ◼ ► one person or this is a random And I think it's almost chronological so I think you know this is the stuff. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4017">TS</a>]
01:07:03 ◼ ► What I was trying to figure letters letters and papers. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4023">TS</a>]
01:07:08 ◼ ► Eighteen eighteen no one so this is just this is just the stuff that was coming into the role Saturday night [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4028">TS</a>]
01:07:14 ◼ ► and I want to so it's been filed to send to the Royal Society you know I did fun the other day a letter that someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4034">TS</a>]
01:07:20 ◼ ► wrote in skiing for William Herschel's autograph I was amazed that people were asking for a graphic that that you would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4040">TS</a>]
01:07:27 ◼ ► write in and just say oh can I have you can't do a selfie what you going to do. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4047">TS</a>]
01:07:30 ◼ ► Yes I didn't know what a graph data in fact that as a as a thing like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4050">TS</a>]
01:07:34 ◼ ► and I'm sure people were asking for the pharaoh's stamp [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4054">TS</a>]
01:07:37 ◼ ► and I don't know who looks look at this is some amazing diagrams and pictures here of an ear of the human ear stuff go. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4057">TS</a>]
01:07:47 ◼ ► Looks like there's some kind of device being inserted into the ear and drying a needle things look pleasant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4067">TS</a>]
01:07:52 ◼ ► and the needle being second in the air as wave has been your drum on the way into this office. We went past a pool. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4072">TS</a>]
01:08:00 ◼ ► Sure of Thomas Young and you a lot. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4080">TS</a>]
01:08:04 ◼ ► and you have a little mental black We're not going to talk about Thomas you know this is a paper he sent in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4084">TS</a>]
01:08:09 ◼ ► or some paper it's a lecture he gave. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4089">TS</a>]
01:08:12 ◼ ► There's a famous lecture that all societies called the bay Kerry and lecture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4092">TS</a>]
01:08:17 ◼ ► and this is a by Kerry in that chair that Thomas young guy in eighteen I won the date written here at the top of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4097">TS</a>]
01:08:23 ◼ ► paper says he read the lecture in November eighteen I won. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4103">TS</a>]
01:08:30 ◼ ► And here is the lecture handwritten letter he gave what's called let's see what's called the lecture is titled on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4110">TS</a>]
01:08:37 ◼ ► theory of light and colours. OK so you give this thing I'd like to be fair guys for a fair while rabbits on a bit. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4117">TS</a>]
01:08:47 ◼ ► Doesn't this doesn't look like it's a snappy ten minute video kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4127">TS</a>]
01:08:52 ◼ ► and this is more Brady style than dry stuff I was thinking ten minutes is already Brady style. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4132">TS</a>]
01:08:59 ◼ ► Yeah he's gone for he's gone for quantity. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4139">TS</a>]
01:09:03 ◼ ► Those sorts of propositions an hypothesis and and I'm not going to get you to read what it's about but I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4143">TS</a>]
01:09:09 ◼ ► when you see this is the first time this was discussed and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4149">TS</a>]
01:09:12 ◼ ► when you see the picture at the end you realize why this lecture was bit of a big deal this is a long long legs actions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4152">TS</a>]
01:09:25 ◼ ► where you wonder how many people made it to the end. His the pictures to go with tell me if this looks familiar. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4165">TS</a>]
01:09:34 ◼ ► The diffraction patterns will be light this is slits young of the young slit time who went on to do a double slit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4174">TS</a>]
01:09:42 ◼ ► experiment this is a single slit experiment this is the young who did double slit so anyone from school would know all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4182">TS</a>]
01:09:50 ◼ ► about Young's slits and a fraction of logic of course this is this is the man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4190">TS</a>]
01:09:55 ◼ ► and this is this the first time that he was. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4195">TS</a>]
01:10:00 ◼ ► Real to the world what he'd found what he was learning about how light travels so this is the first lecture on the kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4200">TS</a>]
01:10:12 ◼ ► when light passes through a narrow passage instead of just going straight through like you like you might think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4212">TS</a>]
01:10:20 ◼ ► You can observe that a it to fracs sort of bends around the curve bends around the hole ever so slightly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4220">TS</a>]
01:10:29 ◼ ► He's drawn and he's shown that he's telling people about it for the first time he's writing it with his hand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4229">TS</a>]
01:10:36 ◼ ► and now this is like for a physics teacher like this is you know this is we don't even bother with a single slit right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4236">TS</a>]
01:10:42 ◼ ► he just sort of jump right into the double slit experiment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4242">TS</a>]
01:10:46 ◼ ► and try to talk about the strange things that are going on there right now. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4246">TS</a>]
01:10:51 ◼ ► So anyway I just sort of been asked to show a physics teacher the moment that young gave his own lesson [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4251">TS</a>]
01:10:59 ◼ ► This fundamental iconic demonstration [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4259">TS</a>]
01:11:04 ◼ ► and the other thing I love about this we're talking about how there are all these disparate papers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4264">TS</a>]
01:11:07 ◼ ► and one after the other you know one minute we're looking at a needle being stuck in someone's ear the next minute [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4267">TS</a>]
01:11:12 ◼ ► we're looking at a plant the next minute we're looking at young telling the world about the wave nature of light. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4272">TS</a>]
01:11:19 ◼ ► The next paper straight after this young lecture has been stuck into this file is actually all about the discovery of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4279">TS</a>]
01:11:31 ◼ ► So this is a golden time for science like I know everything I know science is always go out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4291">TS</a>]
01:11:36 ◼ ► and enjoy things happening now I think. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4296">TS</a>]
01:11:38 ◼ ► One minute we've got young discovering this wave like nature of light we've got new elements being discovered like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4298">TS</a>]
01:11:44 ◼ ► fundamental things. This is amazing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4304">TS</a>]
01:11:47 ◼ ► Others agree there that that there are there is definitely a kind of golden age of science between you know the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4307">TS</a>]
01:11:54 ◼ ► broadly like seventeen hundred to the end of the eighteen hundreds and. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4314">TS</a>]
01:12:00 ◼ ► The reason why you can say that the golden period is because of a bunch of overlapping factors one there was an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4320">TS</a>]
01:12:07 ◼ ► enormous amount of stuff to still be discovered so that there was through to just waiting for those who were going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4327">TS</a>]
01:12:19 ◼ ► Just as we started with this one you have Isaac Newton [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4339">TS</a>]
01:12:22 ◼ ► and a bunch of other people starting to bring in more rigorous processes to how to how do we do science like what can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4342">TS</a>]
01:12:27 ◼ ► you start applying mathematics to and there was way more to be discovered and. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4347">TS</a>]
01:12:32 ◼ ► And three the things that were available for people to discover a lot of it is what we kind of call in science like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4352">TS</a>]
01:12:39 ◼ ► tabletop science guy who like your spare time and money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4359">TS</a>]
01:12:48 ◼ ► and a room in your house you could discover something about the nature of light that nobody had ever discovered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4368">TS</a>]
01:12:56 ◼ ► and sure you had to be a smarter person than the average person. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4376">TS</a>]
01:13:01 ◼ ► But there was just so much there to be found that that people could go and look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4381">TS</a>]
01:13:06 ◼ ► and like discover things if they're willing to put in a lot of time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4386">TS</a>]
01:13:10 ◼ ► and if they were basically noble people in the eight hundred you had money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4390">TS</a>]
01:13:14 ◼ ► and spare time that they didn't have to tilt fields That's why do you think that that's a real golden age of science [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4394">TS</a>]
01:13:20 ◼ ► whereas whereas now I mean you know some of the stuff that I worked on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4400">TS</a>]
01:13:24 ◼ ► when I was in university some of those research projects I mean they were even the stuff that I was working on like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4404">TS</a>]
01:13:30 ◼ ► teams of several dozen people who were working on it just like a very small part of one machine that was part of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4410">TS</a>]
01:13:41 ◼ ► enormous facility up and up in Rochester that all told would have a thousand some odd people working on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4421">TS</a>]
01:13:49 ◼ ► and it's because what well now they were probing the real edges of reality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4429">TS</a>]
01:13:53 ◼ ► and so you can't you can't be a guy in your in your room go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4433">TS</a>]
01:13:56 ◼ ► and I think maybe I'm going to scupper something you know that that work is. Have available in theoretical physics. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4436">TS</a>]
01:14:02 ◼ ► But that age of practical physics is is over I think I know this is something I ask you about before I can trust her. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4442">TS</a>]
01:14:09 ◼ ► If I predict what your answer is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4449">TS</a>]
01:14:11 ◼ ► but I know you know I always bring up things like what would it be better to be a bear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4451">TS</a>]
01:14:15 ◼ ► or would it be better to have lived hundreds of years ago. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4455">TS</a>]
01:14:18 ◼ ► Now I know you're going to say to me sure as long as you're not telling the failed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4458">TS</a>]
01:14:21 ◼ ► or dying of dysentery something like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4461">TS</a>]
01:14:24 ◼ ► but if if you were lucky enough to be you know a person of Mainz would it not be a better time to be living [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4464">TS</a>]
01:14:32 ◼ ► when you could do things like Discover Pluto map a strategy for the first time discover an element like is that stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4472">TS</a>]
01:14:40 ◼ ► It wouldn't know what it is for someone who is excited by discovering I'm obsessed with Apollo and the moon missions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4480">TS</a>]
01:14:46 ◼ ► and I missed out on that golden time of the late sixty's and seventy's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4486">TS</a>]
01:14:51 ◼ ► but for someone who has a mind like that would it not have been more exciting when all this stuff was unknown [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4491">TS</a>]
01:14:56 ◼ ► and almost every few weeks it was like oh my goodness I found a whole nother continent. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4496">TS</a>]
01:15:00 ◼ ► Oh my goodness not just on another planet. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4500">TS</a>]
01:15:02 ◼ ► Now it's kind of like looked I've now discovered that the chromosomal the protein that helps the soul daily since bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4502">TS</a>]
01:15:08 ◼ ► like it just doesn't seem quite as exciting anymore. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4508">TS</a>]
01:15:13 ◼ ► The problem is a sense of of scale because a lot of the seven hundred eight hundred science is science that you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4513">TS</a>]
01:15:24 ◼ ► explain to an interested person whereas almost everything is discovered in science now it's very hard to explain what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4524">TS</a>]
01:15:32 ◼ ► actually occurring because the base knowledge required is just huge it's absolutely huge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4532">TS</a>]
01:15:39 ◼ ► and it's why so many of the popular books you ever read on physics they kind of cover the period from like seven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4539">TS</a>]
01:15:46 ◼ ► and then we kind of stop after that point because it's just it just gets to be too much of like well now you need to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4546">TS</a>]
01:15:52 ◼ ► an expert in this in this field to a large extent. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4552">TS</a>]
01:15:55 ◼ ► What's a great time for a scientifically interested person to be alive. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4555">TS</a>]
01:16:00 ◼ ► And you're ignoring things like the dysentery and the horrible poverty everywhere. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4560">TS</a>]
01:16:06 ◼ ► If you're putting aside all of the reasons you wouldn't want to live in a seven hundred you can say yes it is for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4566">TS</a>]
01:16:11 ◼ ► certain kinds of people it may have been more intellectually satisfying to live them than to live now I would like in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4571">TS</a>]
01:16:18 ◼ ► particular I wonder about a guy like like a lord Kelvin who was a very scientific guy who was involved in lots of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4578">TS</a>]
01:16:25 ◼ ► different areas he was involved in temperature he was involved in the early Telegraph he was involved in a whole bunch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4585">TS</a>]
01:16:31 ◼ ► of stuff. I wonder his kind of mind how would that fit in a modern world. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4591">TS</a>]
01:16:37 ◼ ► Like maybe he wouldn't have been as useful at CERN as like he was just the right guy with the right mind at the right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4597">TS</a>]
01:16:45 ◼ ► time. Can I quote you on that Kelvin would have been rubbish. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4605">TS</a>]
01:16:48 ◼ ► So I'm I am postulating that it possible that that would really be a dumpster these days. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4608">TS</a>]
01:16:59 ◼ ► NEWTON I think Calvin in particular is like Newton I think is a real singular. Yeah weirdo. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4619">TS</a>]
01:17:05 ◼ ► Yeah there's no way around like Newton was a very strange person. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4625">TS</a>]
01:17:10 ◼ ► and I think what one of the side effects of of the kind of strangeness that he had was a particular sort of intelligence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4630">TS</a>]
01:17:17 ◼ ► where is at least what I've read about Kelvin struck me as he's way more like like a resort's old guy at the time. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4637">TS</a>]
01:17:27 ◼ ► They may not have been the smartest scientist in the room but he just had like lots of interests [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4647">TS</a>]
01:17:33 ◼ ► and was discovering a bunch of things. Yeah. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4653">TS</a>]
01:17:34 ◼ ► So he may have been better suited to productive use protected and was productive in a bunch of areas. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4654">TS</a>]
01:17:40 ◼ ► So that's why I just science now versus science and are two very different things. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4660">TS</a>]
01:17:46 ◼ ► and back up what you just said I was reading last night a bit more about Isaac Newton because you would you were saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4666">TS</a>]
01:17:51 ◼ ► how you don't know how many scientist are and you can remember how do you live. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4671">TS</a>]
01:17:55 ◼ ► So I actually looked up last night how did I die and it sounds like he actually kind of pretty. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4675">TS</a>]
01:18:01 ◼ ► Well I was having a lot of health problems over an extended period he was not supplying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4681">TS</a>]
01:18:04 ◼ ► and he was having all sorts of different elements [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4684">TS</a>]
01:18:06 ◼ ► and that's the thing you forget where you think I ought to be nice to be an Isaac Newton [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4686">TS</a>]
01:18:10 ◼ ► and have my painting up at the Royal Society in agony probably for years. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4690">TS</a>]
01:18:14 ◼ ► Right because they were and they didn't they couldn't fix him because I didn't know how to fix people right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4694">TS</a>]
01:18:18 ◼ ► Yeah because it just has beaches that's all you have. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4698">TS</a>]
01:18:22 ◼ ► Yeah that's why I will always take living now or in the future the options [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4702">TS</a>]
01:18:25 ◼ ► but it's a different question if you're asking about the nature of science. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4705">TS</a>]
01:18:28 ◼ ► It was just more for more people to discover than time for the resistance. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4708">TS</a>]
01:18:38 ◼ ► I got one more awesome workflows workflows and one of the types of systems you very interested in. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4718">TS</a>]
01:18:45 ◼ ► I love voting systems you love very good systems where you think you have an object related to voting at the ballot box [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4725">TS</a>]
01:18:57 ◼ ► of some sort is this with a fancy crest on the front. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4737">TS</a>]
01:19:01 ◼ ► Big big wooden very heavy voting box this is the current official Royal Society voting box I was going to get this has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4741">TS</a>]
01:19:11 ◼ ► to be the Latin vote for the president of the Royal Society [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4751">TS</a>]
01:19:14 ◼ ► but I don't think it's used for voting for THE PRESIDENT I don't think because I don't think it's done in person. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4754">TS</a>]
01:19:19 ◼ ► I haven't been able to establish exactly what it's used for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4759">TS</a>]
01:19:22 ◼ ► but I think it's more kind of business a thing so if they need to do a vote on something like Are we happy with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4762">TS</a>]
01:19:27 ◼ ► annual report are we going to do this decision that if it's anything that involves bits of paper that they need to take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4767">TS</a>]
01:19:33 ◼ ► and things like that this is their ballot box so it's not a big slot in the top floating in the papers of course nicely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4773">TS</a>]
01:19:42 ◼ ► angled at the top to help the papers go in that that the nice little detail right not that of just having a flat across [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4782">TS</a>]
01:19:48 ◼ ► the top nice lighting is good that's good good point. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4788">TS</a>]
01:19:51 ◼ ► OK So there we go a nice crest on the front with his the back and if we can these cases I think. Not turn. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4791">TS</a>]
01:20:01 ◼ ► Should I wait because in and then turns up is because it's like run a submarine right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4801">TS</a>]
01:20:08 ◼ ► I haven't unlocked minute left to lose so left Elysia would be rubbish at reading an election or so and there we go. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4808">TS</a>]
01:20:20 ◼ ► and take out the ballot papers so you know what you know what you want about box you once a minute look official. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4820">TS</a>]
01:20:27 ◼ ► Now this this looks of it just as much better than sort of cardboardy once you see it real actions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4827">TS</a>]
01:20:32 ◼ ► and power ballad those generally don't look that impressive in elections [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4832">TS</a>]
01:20:36 ◼ ► but this is lovely this is this is this is great. You could have one of these every polling station in the U.K. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4836">TS</a>]
01:20:41 ◼ ► Pretty expensive. You could if you took voting seriously you know you definitely could if you take voting seriously. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4841">TS</a>]
01:20:47 ◼ ► OK Anyway don't be disappointed. Things are about to get a whole lot more interesting. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4847">TS</a>]
01:20:55 ◼ ► This is just this is just a ballot this is just a you know this is just to show you something to us to do is writing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4855">TS</a>]
01:21:00 ◼ ► OK I'm now going to show you something or something before I show you this next autumn. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4860">TS</a>]
01:21:08 ◼ ► Don't get confused straight away. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4868">TS</a>]
01:21:10 ◼ ► There is there is unresolved matters here which we may have to figure out and I have to get at it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4870">TS</a>]
01:21:16 ◼ ► But before we get to do with what confuses us let's just revel in the loveliness of the art. OK Let me get a camera. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4876">TS</a>]
01:21:26 ◼ ► This is the previous voting machine that was used here at the Royal Society. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4886">TS</a>]
01:21:32 ◼ ► Let me let me start with a look at them before you can do anything. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4892">TS</a>]
01:21:38 ◼ ► I'll try Think of how to describe this for the listeners what is asleep you know what it looks like it looks like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4898">TS</a>]
01:21:45 ◼ ► top quarter of a periscope. I'm stuck on top of a box. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4905">TS</a>]
01:21:50 ◼ ► There's a big circular opening that is facing perpendicular parallel to the floor. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4910">TS</a>]
01:21:57 ◼ ► It has yes no written across the top of it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4917">TS</a>]
01:22:00 ◼ ► But there's no obvious thing to do with the US through the narrow it just says yes or no. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4920">TS</a>]
01:22:06 ◼ ► Above this big circular opening and there's a little drawer on the bottom which is also labelled Y. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4926">TS</a>]
01:22:11 ◼ ► and and Below the below this big opening thing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4931">TS</a>]
01:22:14 ◼ ► It really would pay off to look at a picture of this if you know watching a video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4934">TS</a>]
01:22:17 ◼ ► and we will make a picture of a little on but I'm going to I'm going to I'm going to cast a vote here. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4937">TS</a>]
01:22:23 ◼ ► I'm going to cast a vote now on top of this box there is like a slot that's been a groove in the top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4943">TS</a>]
01:22:30 ◼ ► and I imagine that is where you would put the question or the issue at hand. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4950">TS</a>]
01:22:34 ◼ ► So for example it could say at the top there in the slot I could put a piece of card of something they're saying should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4954">TS</a>]
01:22:40 ◼ ► see G.P. Gravy made a Fellow of the Royal Society right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4960">TS</a>]
01:22:44 ◼ ► Do I want him to become a fellow and what I do is in my hand here I have a small bowl [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4964">TS</a>]
01:22:50 ◼ ► and now with this tiny bowl I put my hand into this giant hole at the front that you described as looking like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4970">TS</a>]
01:22:58 ◼ ► periscope and if you put your hand in there and feel put your hand in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4978">TS</a>]
01:23:02 ◼ ► and have a little video I see where this is getting immediate You can drop the ball to the left [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4982">TS</a>]
01:23:08 ◼ ► Yes it was when I put my hand in I can feel there's a little little triangle kind of sticking up in the middle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4988">TS</a>]
01:23:14 ◼ ► and I can feel a space on either side to drop a marble into yes or into now. Yeah. So there we go. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/4994">TS</a>]
01:23:21 ◼ ► So if I decided I want I think Gray he's a good like he should be made a Fellow of the Law Society I would put my hand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/5001">TS</a>]
01:23:28 ◼ ► in everyone else in the room will have no idea what why I'm voting. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/5008">TS</a>]
01:23:32 ◼ ► I could just hit a little plop of the box that I would know I voted I would be held accountable Yes Brady did cast his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/5012">TS</a>]
01:23:38 ◼ ► vote. I heard the ball plot but I don't know if he went left or right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/5018">TS</a>]
01:23:43 ◼ ► Right this is a machine designed to ensure that voting occurs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/5023">TS</a>]
01:23:48 ◼ ► and that it is also anonymous yet because you can see which way the person drop a marble. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/5028">TS</a>]
01:23:53 ◼ ► If we're quite here for a second I'll drop my bow to the left. You know there's the vote. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/5033">TS</a>]
01:24:00 ◼ ► And then at the end of the night this drawer at the bottom can be pulled out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/5040">TS</a>]
01:24:05 ◼ ► and the drawer is split into it so they'll be a whole bunch of balls in the left [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/5045">TS</a>]
01:24:09 ◼ ► and maybe a whole bunch of balls in the right and and you win the vote. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/5049">TS</a>]
01:24:13 ◼ ► Right so that's how it how it's counted at the end. Very simple. I like this thing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/5053">TS</a>]
01:24:18 ◼ ► Here's the complicating factor that's got a very simple yes or no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/5058">TS</a>]
01:24:21 ◼ ► and you can decide whether you whether it's a simple reality to win [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/5061">TS</a>]
01:24:26 ◼ ► or you could say two thirds of the vote so whatever. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/5066">TS</a>]
01:24:30 ◼ ► But here is the thing that I find interesting because there's another type of voting that I don't know if you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/5070">TS</a>]
01:24:35 ◼ ► with before but I'm sure you have you've certainly heard of it before. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/5075">TS</a>]
01:24:39 ◼ ► Because if you have a look at the polls they're not all the polls at this time. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/5079">TS</a>]
01:24:44 ◼ ► Yeah you have so the so the two the two types basically we're talking about here. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/5084">TS</a>]
01:24:51 ◼ ► Look I mean looking into the box there are look at there are multicoloured ones. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/5091">TS</a>]
01:24:55 ◼ ► But overall if you're going to divide them into two screens we have light colored bow you have is a light colored ball [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/5095">TS</a>]
01:25:01 ◼ ► and there's a dark a black one black ball and they are different weights. If you're like All right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/5101">TS</a>]
01:25:09 ◼ ► Possibly but that's the point is some people may have heard of the term being blackballed being emitted. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/5109">TS</a>]
01:25:16 ◼ ► This is another type of voting that can be done using something like this where you don't even necessarily need a yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/5116">TS</a>]
01:25:23 ◼ ► or a no and this type of vote voting involves is the reason A Yes channel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/5123">TS</a>]
01:25:28 ◼ ► or no channel what you do is you go up to the voting machine with two balls in your hand a black ball and a white ball. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/5128">TS</a>]
01:25:37 ◼ ► You put your hand into the machine go into the hole into the box and you release one ball. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/5137">TS</a>]
01:25:44 ◼ ► And normally what it would be would be I will release my light colored ball if I want to try to become a fellow of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/5144">TS</a>]
01:25:51 ◼ ► Royal Society for example or whatever I want and you release the black ball if you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/5151">TS</a>]
01:25:56 ◼ ► and then you open up the drawer at the end and there is. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/5156">TS</a>]
01:26:00 ◼ ► You then have options you could count up the yes votes for the large balls vs the nobles the lack of balls [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/5160">TS</a>]
01:26:06 ◼ ► or a more dramatic way of voting and a more common way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/5166">TS</a>]
01:26:09 ◼ ► and where the term black bold comes from is if just one person drops in a black hole. Sometimes I would like to people. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/5169">TS</a>]
01:26:17 ◼ ► Letterman grudges to let it go if you have one black ball in the drawer at the end you're out. You've been blackballed. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/5177">TS</a>]
01:26:25 ◼ ► You've missed out. You've missed out on your fill of shit because you got blackballed. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/5185">TS</a>]
01:26:28 ◼ ► Right so this is the way it is a basically a veto threat on where we sail to do people that we're using to two black [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/5188">TS</a>]
01:26:37 ◼ ► No matter how many people say yes a veto is able to override all of the effort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/5197">TS</a>]
01:26:42 ◼ ► and you never know who blackballed because he is Brady with these lot ball [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/5202">TS</a>]
01:26:45 ◼ ► and he's stuck ball right puts his hand in puts his hand in which ones are going to drop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/5205">TS</a>]
01:26:51 ◼ ► and he takes you doesn't want to whine we never say that the ones who go I did I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/5211">TS</a>]
01:26:55 ◼ ► but boy did I took a lot though I would hope that you blackballed me because I have noted it would be a terrible fellow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/5215">TS</a>]
01:27:02 ◼ ► I have said I have done nothing to earn that honor. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/5222">TS</a>]
01:27:05 ◼ ► So the thing that has you know open your hand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/5225">TS</a>]
01:27:07 ◼ ► or what I did you didn't like the thought I wanted you to agree about it I didn't even know it well that's not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/5227">TS</a>]
01:27:18 ◼ ► Knowing me I would put the black ball in the libel in my hand put my hand into the ball and then not know which one. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/5238">TS</a>]
01:27:25 ◼ ► Oh sorry I meant to drop the lie. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/5245">TS</a>]
01:27:27 ◼ ► Well I think that's why they have the rule that you need to make good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/5247">TS</a>]
01:27:31 ◼ ► but because there's always a Brady in every group I thought it was a stand up bloke so the thing that confused me last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/5251">TS</a>]
01:27:39 ◼ ► night when I was sitting this machine for the first time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/5259">TS</a>]
01:27:43 ◼ ► and I didn't figure out the answer I will though I've come up with a theory to know if we have this yes name machine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/5263">TS</a>]
01:27:49 ◼ ► with a yes channel a no show and you can just drop the ball that people write down these two channels. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/5269">TS</a>]
01:27:55 ◼ ► Why do we also have what poles and black balls. It doesn't it didn't quite make sense to me. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/5275">TS</a>]
01:28:02 ◼ ► Well presumably because not every single vote is requiring a veto. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/5282">TS</a>]
01:28:08 ◼ ► Either the machine can be multi-purpose you have you have figured out in half a second why I spent a good half hour to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/5288">TS</a>]
01:28:16 ◼ ► an hour thinking about last night and that's what I think well maybe I mean I'm just guessing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/5296">TS</a>]
01:28:21 ◼ ► but that's what I wouldn't presume. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/5301">TS</a>]
01:28:23 ◼ ► My guess all this is trip my guess could also be you could use both purposes at the same time it could be so should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/5303">TS</a>]
01:28:30 ◼ ► should graded him a member of the Royal Society and we all got to the machine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/5310">TS</a>]
01:28:35 ◼ ► and he's got a past he's going to get fifty percent of the yeses to to become a felony. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/5315">TS</a>]
01:28:39 ◼ ► But you could also add a veto component to it right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/5319">TS</a>]
01:28:42 ◼ ► So if he gets over fifty percent of yeses he's in but if you get to one black ball right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/5322">TS</a>]
01:28:47 ◼ ► He's also he's also out so you could have double the double the complication right the thing that was a reason why the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/5327">TS</a>]
01:28:53 ◼ ► weight of them struck me immediately as I was one it is another thing that you could do with this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/5333">TS</a>]
01:28:59 ◼ ► As an old fashioned way of doing this but in in many situations votes are not equal. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/5339">TS</a>]
01:29:03 ◼ ► So you will have several tears of members. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/5343">TS</a>]
01:29:06 ◼ ► We'll have the inner council and their votes are worth three times as much as the like the next year out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/5346">TS</a>]
01:29:12 ◼ ► and then you'll have the bottom tier of members whose votes are maybe only worth fifty percent of the standard code [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/5352">TS</a>]
01:29:17 ◼ ► and you could use a machine like this to do with many corporations do where they calculate the way various people so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/5357">TS</a>]
01:29:23 ◼ ► you could do it with a literal weight of different ball if you want to say to a telephone no take the balls out here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/5363">TS</a>]
01:29:28 ◼ ► and put them on the scales and see if you got enough mass to win that do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/5368">TS</a>]
01:29:32 ◼ ► or you could do that as a way to approximate how how powerful these persons vote is endlessly endlessly interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/5372">TS</a>]
01:29:39 ◼ ► that never never ceases to amaze me how much you think about ways of looking at the polls you could use the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/5379">TS</a>]
01:29:48 ◼ ► circumference of this multiplied by you can do it by metrically as well as you know you can have them there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/5388">TS</a>]
01:29:55 ◼ ► and then you put them in a kind of like in a cylinder and it has a sort of post. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/5395">TS</a>]
01:30:01 ◼ ► or you know there's different ways you could do it man you can use your enjoying this way too much what do you think of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/5401">TS</a>]
01:30:06 ◼ ► this is an object. I think it's really interesting to see this kind of thing this is like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/5406">TS</a>]
01:30:12 ◼ ► And this is the one they were using to vote for fellows way back not anymore if you sound really boring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/5412">TS</a>]
01:30:18 ◼ ► but this is to me is like a little piece of bureaucratic history. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/5418">TS</a>]
01:30:22 ◼ ► They think there's this is just stuff that we need to resolve like their votes in passing yes or no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/5422">TS</a>]
01:30:27 ◼ ► and you know what you need equipment to help you with that kind of stuff. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/5427">TS</a>]
01:30:30 ◼ ► So this to me is a very it's a very practical little device and I think it's kind of cute. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/5430">TS</a>]
01:30:37 ◼ ► Literally it looks like a little droid doesn't it could be a Star Wars Droid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/5437">TS</a>]
01:30:42 ◼ ► or I mean this from from the side it's like a little stylized duck you know it's like a duck bill in the head [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/5442">TS</a>]
01:30:46 ◼ ► and then in school pictures as it was on the on the sides going to have a look at the voting machine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/5446">TS</a>]
01:30:52 ◼ ► but I thought this was a nice finale a bit of voting for a missing girl. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/5452">TS</a>]
01:30:56 ◼ ► So that's the sort of where this is been an interesting interesting different day. Interesting. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/5456">TS</a>]
01:31:02 ◼ ► Yeah that's not something you say when you enjoy something that's like if your wife at home and had a new haircut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/5462">TS</a>]
01:31:08 ◼ ► and said what you think of my new hairstyle and you said interesting you wouldn't say that I hope. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/5468">TS</a>]
01:31:14 ◼ ► Would you have it is I think you asked me if I if I like or if I don't like it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/5474">TS</a>]
01:31:18 ◼ ► She actually she she literally just came home last night and asked me about the new lipstick that she was wearing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/5478">TS</a>]
01:31:24 ◼ ► Did you discover this interesting. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/5484">TS</a>]
01:31:25 ◼ ► What I said is that I am reserving judgment for the moment which means that I don't like it immediately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/5485">TS</a>]
01:31:31 ◼ ► and she was totally fine with that because she's a reasonable person person I feel like the whole world is divided into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/5491">TS</a>]
01:31:37 ◼ ► things that are either interesting or not interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/5497">TS</a>]
01:31:40 ◼ ► and maybe I'll use this in a in a different way than most people do it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/5500">TS</a>]
01:31:45 ◼ ► But interest is something that you can't you can't control and you just have or you don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/5505">TS</a>]
01:31:50 ◼ ► and I have found this day very interesting. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/5510">TS</a>]
01:31:53 ◼ ► I think I'm everything interesting I don't divide things into everything is interesting. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/5513">TS</a>]
01:31:56 ◼ ► That's why to you it sounds like I'm just using some sort of filler word like. Oh yeah whatever you say interesting. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/5516">TS</a>]
01:32:02 ◼ ► The the opposite of interesting. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/5522">TS</a>]
01:32:05 ◼ ► Our boredom and indifference is actually a little triangle I think is the way that works. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/5525">TS</a>]
01:32:11 ◼ ► So I would say this is interesting because I have been interested in the things that you have brought forward. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/5531">TS</a>]
01:32:16 ◼ ► I think you've done an excellent job in selecting stuff to look at all the thanks goes to case more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/5536">TS</a>]
01:32:21 ◼ ► and the people in the library at the Royal Society. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/5541">TS</a>]
01:32:23 ◼ ► Yeah I'm super grateful that i let us do this today in this amazing room. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/5543">TS</a>]
01:32:27 ◼ ► Yeah I kind of can't believe that you pulled this off and if this is happened relatively fast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/5547">TS</a>]
01:32:31 ◼ ► and you just you just tossed the idea out. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/5551">TS</a>]
01:32:34 ◼ ► That's a couple days ago and said oh maybe we can do this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/5554">TS</a>]
01:32:37 ◼ ► and it is like to have lightning lightning speed all of a sudden I'm here we're talking about voting machines [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/5557">TS</a>]
01:32:42 ◼ ► and flags down in Adelaide we don't mess about. Sorry about that light section that was that was it's open toed. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/5562">TS</a>]
01:32:48 ◼ ► I always I swear there were tears welling up in your eye having an emotional thing it's an emotional thing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/5568">TS</a>]
01:32:55 ◼ ► So so anyway I thought we might get some tears in the voting machine but you managed to remain stoic. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/5575">TS</a>]
01:33:01 ◼ ► So and thank you to any listeners who persisted with their rather unusual format. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/5581">TS</a>]
01:33:07 ◼ ► It's still traders talking but it's to do it's talking in touching distance that's me that's me touching C.D.P. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/5587">TS</a>]
01:33:13 ◼ ► Great to be right on the hand slapping he's been here for months after this ready to wash my hands first. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/5593">TS</a>]
01:33:20 ◼ ► Touched and so we've done two days talking in person in an amazing place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMWRgG9g/5600">TS</a>]