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H.I. #39: Getting Things Done


00:00:00   I you know I am your story very gray still with them at all. [TS]

00:00:11   How is Audrey doing well I machining you are asking about her imminent surgery. [TS]

00:00:18   I thought she was she was scheduled to have her leave the surgery as you describe it I've been I've been concerned she [TS]

00:00:24   she was scheduled she went and had her check everything was in order. [TS]

00:00:28   But because of various factors to do with preferred vet and holidays [TS]

00:00:33   and things it has been put off until mid June so all is calm. [TS]

00:00:37   Well all is calm is conveyed in the world of Audrey has been a big week for Gene used to have a favorite toy which you [TS]

00:00:45   may remember a little bear. [TS]

00:00:47   I remember Little Bear I remember little bit she quite liked all their little bear is definitely in the top of her sort [TS]

00:00:53   of top of the rotation. [TS]

00:00:55   Now after much much playing in much chewing [TS]

00:00:59   and much aggression from ots little tastes Little Bear has finally lost its own oh yeah it was a it was a sad moment so [TS]

00:01:09   I kept at the moment with the camera for posterity [TS]

00:01:11   and I don't know what we're going to do I had to fish the arm out of the pin. [TS]

00:01:15   My wife is very much of a mind to get rid of it straight away but I'm kind of a bit more sentimental as you know [TS]

00:01:21   and more of a hoarder as you know you have to try to say a little bare of apologies favorite it's a great fighter that [TS]

00:01:27   you have to link everyone to the photo of little bear Sanson [TS]

00:01:30   and I actually did have some high speed slow motion footage of orgy playing with little bad I hadn't got around to [TS]

00:01:36   editing not put that on the Internet as well so I had it was sort of the O.J. [TS]

00:01:40   Little bear week here in the house with this all on the lake doesn't oddly have a Facebook page [TS]

00:01:45   or something that you maintain. Yeah yeah put on our Facebook pages so happening all the orgy fans know all about it. [TS]

00:01:51   I've also seen it turn to look at the videos this way too. [TS]

00:01:54   Actually she pees in two of my videos this wakes so this there's a bit of an ace too. One of them is pretty obvious. [TS]

00:02:01   One of them is a total hidden easter eggs. Only the Truth fans are going to see that. [TS]

00:02:06   Well that yeah that'll be a fun Where's Waldo hunt. [TS]

00:02:09   Yeah well you weren't safe because that would involve watching one of my videos but I want your videos I watch a video. [TS]

00:02:17   So anyway sorry I'll keep you up to date with O.T. but For now she says she doesn't know what's coming. [TS]

00:02:22   She is just fine she's probably mostly broken up about a little better [TS]

00:02:25   but she doesn't know about the impending surgery in which her doctor might be listening to audiobooks while scaring the [TS]

00:02:32   thing is she loves going. [TS]

00:02:34   Actually she loves going to the vet much she really enjoys every one of the vet love surgeries a real celebrity [TS]

00:02:41   and I'm worried that this experience is going to change the way she looks at the vet because at the moment I think it's [TS]

00:02:45   just a place she thinks we take her to go and have fun. [TS]

00:02:48   And next time she goes it's going to be a while hang on I didn't sign up for this. [TS]

00:02:52   What do you normally do at the vet that she thinks it's fun. No no don't say you don't. [TS]

00:02:57   Taking a dog to the vet is not does not happy fun times at the vet when you bring a dog. Everything's fun for O.J. [TS]

00:03:03   Everyone dates on air and she gets to sniff lots of people and lick them and play [TS]

00:03:07   and everyone's talking in a high pitched voice to her and and she's never had anything you know badly wrong. [TS]

00:03:13   He's had a few injections but she's fine with them. [TS]

00:03:16   She's so good she loves that she loves everything she is a singularity of pure joy she is. She definitely is. [TS]

00:03:24   All right well keep me posted on the Audrey news you know I do think you could start. [TS]

00:03:32   No no I'm going to say in the last forecast you mentioned you run being sterile and I don't know you well. [TS]

00:03:42   Didn't you get the hint. [TS]

00:03:49   I think one was run of the wrong on the internet you are going to hear about it I think it was just it was a perfect. [TS]

00:04:00   Or him of having seconds earlier been discussing urban legends and these false notions that spread [TS]

00:04:08   and then moving right into the oh you're in a sterile thing. [TS]

00:04:12   It turns out I have been informed many many times this is not true. [TS]

00:04:17   I do have I do have a tiny tiny point I want to make in my defense though. [TS]

00:04:23   I got into an argument with someone about this years ago because I was on the opposite side of this. [TS]

00:04:30   I thought that this notion that you're in a sterile like oh come on that can't possibly be true. [TS]

00:04:35   Urine is disgusting it has to not be sterile. [TS]

00:04:38   I remember looking it up [TS]

00:04:39   and coming up cross this little piece of information that basically where this notion comes from that urine is sterile [TS]

00:04:49   is that [TS]

00:04:49   when you try to culture it in the little Petri dishes you don't get the like the kind of bacteria that live in your [TS]

00:04:57   urine don't grow very well in those petri dishes. [TS]

00:05:01   Hank Green of Science Show did a little video talking about that [TS]

00:05:04   and that piece of information is something I must have come across years ago when I was originally looking this up [TS]

00:05:10   and a member changing my opinion like homework contrary to my belief urine is sterile. [TS]

00:05:15   But it seems that recent research papers have been able to culture bacteria that are not the not the normal culture [TS]

00:05:23   loving ones that we have and other things so I'm not like I was wrong. [TS]

00:05:28   There's no two ways about it I was wrong and I certainly have. I have definitely heard about it. [TS]

00:05:34   I mean maybe you know you're honest. I would hope so I would hope my earnest. [TS]

00:05:38   No I mean I can see why you think that because it's sort of I don't know if it is the same sex I mean that would be [TS]

00:05:43   kind of a city a can not very conducive to life and you know it fits in the realm of possibility but it is not true. [TS]

00:05:52   And yes I received a torrent of corrections from people gleeful to inform me not to. Case Yeah. [TS]

00:06:01   Not the sort of thing people does that passes. [TS]

00:06:03   No it is not [TS]

00:06:04   and I have now had to set up a filter with where you're in on my Twitter because getting is getting a bit out of hand. [TS]

00:06:09   I was like yeah I know people I don't need to receive three hundred more of it and I shy flags. [TS]

00:06:19   You brought it up last time I think the idea of what would a hello internet flag look like in Dade Yes And I think you [TS]

00:06:26   put in the show notes here a link to a couple of designs that people have come up with for hello internet. [TS]

00:06:33   Oh wow I don't want I don't want to have a huge debate over who put what in the shyness [TS]

00:06:36   but I thought you put that one in anyway doesn't it was the show no it's fairy who put it in. [TS]

00:06:41   No I haven't seen some of these I mean various people various people have submitted designs of varying levels of [TS]

00:06:49   excellence. And thank you to everyone who did. [TS]

00:06:53   I have the ones I have seen I found interesting and I'm I'm humbled that our viewers would do it. [TS]

00:07:00   So I always I always come to view this to listeners it's OK Brady OK It bothers me when I do it [TS]

00:07:06   and I took all the time. Sorry no one would. [TS]

00:07:08   I don't even notice no one would notice unless you brought brought attention to it now. OK Go on. [TS]

00:07:14   The we have had so many interesting designs but they've come to at least me from a variety of sources. [TS]

00:07:21   So I've seen some stuff on Reddit I've seen some people tweet flag designs at me for hello internet I've received some [TS]

00:07:26   e-mails with flag designs in the ME just kind of this random assortment of things. [TS]

00:07:31   So what I would actually like to do is [TS]

00:07:33   when this show goes live I want to put a thread on the Reddit where people can submit the flags that they've made [TS]

00:07:43   because I would like to see them all in a in a single collection somewhere. [TS]

00:07:47   So people have already submitted one if they could resubmit to that thread that of the really handy. [TS]

00:07:51   Yes that's that's what I'm requesting I'm going to make a thread if you have a flag submitted as a top level comment [TS]

00:07:57   like let's not have a whole bunch of replies nester. [TS]

00:08:00   Below each other I would say I would really love to see them kind of all on one level in this way people can vote them [TS]

00:08:05   up and vote them down [TS]

00:08:06   and really all the flags are welcomed into which were intentionally kind of terrible to be funny [TS]

00:08:12   and I've seen them genuinely really well designed ones. [TS]

00:08:14   Yeah there they've just been very good so I think it would be great if we could try to collect them all together in one [TS]

00:08:19   spot so [TS]

00:08:20   when the show goes live I will if I remember try to put a discussion thread on the reddit so people can just put them [TS]

00:08:26   all in one place and then maybe we can talk about them next time. [TS]

00:08:29   Yeah I really enjoyed them that's a really good idea here also because I would like to sort of say that in one place to [TS]

00:08:34   because I'm far too disorganized to hunt around for them but it's it's really cool people are doing. [TS]

00:08:40   Sometimes like can you hear that on your end. There is an owl outside of my window right now on no on an I.V. [TS]

00:08:48   That's awesome. [TS]

00:08:49   I just don't know if you can hear it hooting away [TS]

00:08:52   but I think I think I might have now that you mention it I think that's totally cool. [TS]

00:08:55   Long may it hurt I really rather not have a hoot because it is now officially summer here [TS]

00:09:02   and my office is already incredibly hot and when I start recording podcast it gets way too warm [TS]

00:09:06   and I'm trying to keep the window cracked open a little bit so I don't succeed to death [TS]

00:09:11   but towel might make me have to close the window. [TS]

00:09:13   Going to be really funny if this is an arrow in the background it doesn't have to be silent [TS]

00:09:17   and I think I think people would like that there's an arrow there because we've got a history with houses where I have [TS]

00:09:23   my own work on the park. [TS]

00:09:25   Yeah I mean I have this big open window to the outside [TS]

00:09:28   and I'm just kind of really hoping to be able doesn't come in during the pod cast as well. [TS]

00:09:32   So how close is he I can see where he is [TS]

00:09:34   but it sounds like that would be the most awesome moment in the history of podcast if you go I checked out while we [TS]

00:09:39   were recording I think that would be awesome but for not reasons that I would appreciate or enjoy [TS]

00:09:46   but it's not there to be great for dogs. [TS]

00:09:50   Yes it might be great for dusky it might be great for our listener ship numbers [TS]

00:09:54   but it wouldn't be great for me personally. Come on guy take one for the tame great take one for the tame take. [TS]

00:10:00   Our tech. No I think I will pass. Now I received an email this week Lou which was awesome. [TS]

00:10:10   I was so excited by some going to call it up here. [TS]

00:10:15   This comes from a woman named and all and Lisa she's she's from some European countries I had name is quite exotic [TS]

00:10:26   and I'm not exactly sure how to pronounce that. [TS]

00:10:29   So anyway this comes on the heels of us having talked about people who listen to the podcast while performing surgery. [TS]

00:10:36   No no not more of this. [TS]

00:10:38   Well I thought that was pretty awesome that there were people who were actually doing surgery about listening to the [TS]

00:10:43   podcast and Liza I apologize if that's incorrect. Has has topped it all. [TS]

00:10:52   I'm going to read you and then I'm going to send you the photo that was attached. OK dear Brady did great. [TS]

00:10:59   You were wondering in your last episode who has the time to this into pod casts. Here's a possible answer. [TS]

00:11:04   Scientists on maternity leave in the last weeks of my pregnancy I finally had the time to listen to all your [TS]

00:11:11   representatives your conversations were placed very well the stimulating exchanges I would normally have at work during [TS]

00:11:17   the coffee break. Your last episode was also a great help in the delivery room scene picture which I would ask and no. [TS]

00:11:27   So here she is on the sort of delivery bed. [TS]

00:11:30   Like it's OK It's not like too graphic on the delivery bed listening to Africa and I will read on. [TS]

00:11:39   You managed to make me laugh at a time when my husband was too stressed [TS]

00:11:42   and tired to provide distraction I recommend your podcast [TS]

00:11:47   and videos to all my friends especially young parents at home who crave so much intelligent entertainment. [TS]

00:11:53   Thank you for your great work both of you make fantastic videos [TS]

00:11:57   and compliment each other perfectly with your different styles. Like real cellmates smiley face. Cheers and Liza. [TS]

00:12:05   Wow OK they are getting pretty much listening to hello internet. [TS]

00:12:10   Yeah I think we can claim it is like a hello internet baby. [TS]

00:12:16   Oh I did ask because I did reply because I will put them on my blog. [TS]

00:12:21   I went with the picture on the blog because that's obviously a personal thing right. [TS]

00:12:25   But I did ask if she had a boy or ago it was a boy. [TS]

00:12:33   I haven't got a name as yet well so who is she going to name the boy after I guess is the question I had [TS]

00:12:38   and I wouldn't wish the name Brady on anyone. But then again I wouldn't wish the name Seiji pay on anyone either. [TS]

00:12:46   I think I think she's going to have to just go here OH MY on that one. [TS]

00:12:50   Speaking of how the internet based [TS]

00:12:53   or whether other more hello Well of course is the most famous Hollywood baby of Oh [TS]

00:12:58   and I did receive your postage today where you have mailed and I know I know you don't want me to say this [TS]

00:13:06   but I'm going to say I was once I was wondering if this was ever going to come. [TS]

00:13:10   You have made to me the certificate you were given when C.D.P. [TS]

00:13:16   Gray the penguin was officially named this is a this is a shining testament to how much you really will not accumulate [TS]

00:13:22   things or anything sentimental you've said basically no I haven't and my house. [TS]

00:13:27   I sent you a video of me scanning the certificate in my house [TS]

00:13:32   and you immediately replied warning me not to throw it away and I've promised you that I wouldn't [TS]

00:13:38   and I knew then exactly what I was going to do. [TS]

00:13:42   Going to throw it away but I was going to give it to you [TS]

00:13:44   and I figure you can you can frame it somewhere in your house better off to a better plan. [TS]

00:13:49   So yes I excuse the pun I'm still hatching the plan so I know that and I don't know that exactly [TS]

00:13:54   but I think it will involve our patron supporters. So I mean. If you happen to be one of those people. [TS]

00:14:02   Keep an eye on the sado over the next few weeks to a month or so and there may be some news on that front. [TS]

00:14:07   OK Well I look forward to hearing about a plan that is incubating at the moment so nice now I just want to I know I [TS]

00:14:16   bring this up all the time but I feel like I have to bring it up again [TS]

00:14:20   and people must think they're in some kind of time warp because actually I just listened to the old episode of how the [TS]

00:14:27   Internet that you put on You Tube today because you looked them up a little bit behind real time [TS]

00:14:32   and I was discussing on that so people must think I talk about nothing else. [TS]

00:14:37   What is it you want to talk about I greatly want to mention something about the word humble brag. [TS]

00:14:41   OK let's do this yet again. Everybody listen carefully doesn't matter what you're going to say baby. [TS]

00:14:48   Listen carefully Gray and I love talking about humble bragging. I'm sure it will never stop. [TS]

00:14:54   But we did not calling or invent the term. [TS]

00:15:00   When you when you see it or hear it and it's becoming more and more common you do not need to contact us [TS]

00:15:05   and say Hold on guys your word is spreading freebooting Yes I'll take that. You should take that with pride. [TS]

00:15:13   I'll take it with pride. [TS]

00:15:14   But we had nothing to do with humble brag and in fact if you go back [TS]

00:15:17   and listen to an early episode you can even hear the moment when I'm talking about the sort of phenomena [TS]

00:15:22   and he still was me. Oh it's called Humble bragging you know there's a whole web site about it. [TS]

00:15:27   We did not the reason I feel compelled to do this is not just the tweets [TS]

00:15:30   and the my house the other day I got a text message from my wife saying all excited saying Did you invent humble [TS]

00:15:38   breaking I just heard on the radio. [TS]

00:15:42   She doesn't listen to the podcast and she knows that you say you to listen to the podcast [TS]

00:15:46   but that to me is just there could not be more proof that your wife has never listened to a single episode because the [TS]

00:15:53   bag is banal and I multiple times didn't like it but she. [TS]

00:16:00   She does know this some words that I carry on about sometimes that you know is been spreading which is very very tame [TS]

00:16:08   and mixed up and head on the radio and sort of tried to be supportive and encouraging and proud of me [TS]

00:16:14   and I had to say no I'm not going to do with love it's the break humble catches on then it's May then it's me. [TS]

00:16:23   But what was that again I don't even remember what that was there was some terrible idea. Nah it was good. [TS]

00:16:29   That's when you meant with the truth placed on the faces when you brag to increase the humiliation. [TS]

00:16:37   Yeah I don't think celebrating I think that's going anywhere. [TS]

00:16:41   The early days I literally days left to think like a suit [TS]

00:16:47   and I know if I was saying correctly an upset people Lang yap yap whatever it is I don't think that's holding out hope [TS]

00:16:54   for that one. I know you are I know you but not like a new way. [TS]

00:16:59   New use kind of way [TS]

00:17:00   but just didn't you know giving it a you know an injection increasing its popularity because I think my use of it is [TS]

00:17:07   completely normal and fun. [TS]

00:17:08   I don't even think of it that I feel like people like you must be how languages split apart over time. [TS]

00:17:18   But there are there are there are people who are just insistent on creating new words and new ways to say things [TS]

00:17:25   and [TS]

00:17:25   when we used to have much greater geographical separation from each other it's people like you that that would cause languages [TS]

00:17:31   to shift and become in comprehensible to each other over hundreds of years. [TS]

00:17:36   I don't know if you're trying to insult me there but I'm taking it usually as a complement. [TS]

00:17:39   I think it's just I think it's just the thing I think people like you are the reason that that language is split sort [TS]

00:17:45   of creative people. [TS]

00:17:46   Yeah I almost almost as though if if if we had enough time on the pod cast if there was an infinite amount of time [TS]

00:17:54   stretching before us at the end of that infinity of time you would just be speaking and into. [TS]

00:18:00   Fire language constructed of your own words. [TS]

00:18:02   Great give me another twenty episodes and that's all I say all right we'll put that on the calendar. [TS]

00:18:08   Next on follow up here there was a really cool link I haven't looked into in much detail [TS]

00:18:13   but someone tweeted it to us and I had to say G.P. Go written all over humans versus robots. [TS]

00:18:18   Let's call this thing up with all this up. [TS]

00:18:21   This is some kind of little web application where you can enter your job via a series of drop down menus [TS]

00:18:29   and then it tells you the percentage likelihood that your job will be replaced by robots yes. Have you done it yet. [TS]

00:18:37   And what did you quit your job. [TS]

00:18:39   Is there anything what is the closest thing we could get to You Tube [TS]

00:18:41   or here I couldn't find one I ended up putting in photography. I thought that was the closest to my job. [TS]

00:18:49   Too bad for you but we have art to design entertainment sports and media and the overall category. [TS]

00:18:56   Yeah I'm tired than referees that's probably me. Why does radio announcers have a smiley face after it. [TS]

00:19:05   Oh right because and here they are right now of course [TS]

00:19:08   and it isn't a right it is an author is I mean it's a multimedia artists and animators. [TS]

00:19:17   That's process that might be made to action try that one I think that old is probably closest to you Will I like that [TS]

00:19:24   one point five percent chance of mating automated. Yes So this is this Web site. [TS]

00:19:28   If you try to find whatever is your job it tries to give you an estimate of the chance of it being automated. [TS]

00:19:34   However I came across this a little while ago and I thought oh this looks really interesting [TS]

00:19:38   and then I started playing around with it and then I thought wait this seems seems like a pile of nonsense. [TS]

00:19:43   This Web site because I was trying to trying to figure out OK how are they how are they coming up with these numbers [TS]

00:19:49   and if you look on the bottom they have a bunch of little axes on which they're trying to measure the jobs you know. [TS]

00:19:55   Does your job need to come up with clever solutions are you required to personally help others. [TS]

00:20:00   Does your job require negotiate negotiation [TS]

00:20:02   and then strange what does your job require you to squeeze into small spaces and it's an interesting one. [TS]

00:20:11   Breaking down the jobs by those axes plus some others and saying OK was that was the probability five nation [TS]

00:20:17   but if you start looking around at some of the jobs they have what I think are just dumb results result that don't make [TS]

00:20:25   any sense of course I went to go see. Under education training and library What did they say for high school teachers. [TS]

00:20:32   Actually we should say what if it weren't for newspaper reporters. Let's do that first. [TS]

00:20:35   Where would newspaper reporters be that would be [TS]

00:20:38   and a media term with nothing is a media do they have a technical writer is that do you not really. [TS]

00:20:43   Now you're more likely more likely to maybe writers and authors but even then that doesn't really work. [TS]

00:20:52   They don't have anything else like it. I guess that's because the job is already just on the way out. [TS]

00:20:56   Nobody did and are writers. Yeah there's nothing here that's even remotely close to a newspaper man. [TS]

00:21:05   Oh additives maybe editors. [TS]

00:21:07   OK whatever editors let's just do that one five point five percent OK seems good that we go over to education [TS]

00:21:14   and then you select high school teachers. [TS]

00:21:16   This web site gives it eight point eight percent chance of being automated which I would agree with because I mean a [TS]

00:21:24   big part of the job is just basically taking care of a roomful of children which is hard to automate putting all the [TS]

00:21:30   education that supposed to be happening outside. [TS]

00:21:33   You still need an adult in a room full of children like that's that's hard to automate that factor. [TS]

00:21:37   If you jump from high school teachers down to middle school teachers which in my perspective is basically the same job [TS]

00:21:45   because I mean is this Web site is geared for America but in the U.K. [TS]

00:21:49   I mean the whole education system is different [TS]

00:21:51   but I've basically taught middle school kids through to high school kids it's like combined in the U.K. [TS]

00:21:57   This Web site suddenly jumps and says oh middle school teacher. [TS]

00:22:00   I have a seventeen point four percent chance of being automated. [TS]

00:22:03   Like what on earth is causing this difference I don't think this is even remotely valid like that that to me just says [TS]

00:22:09   whatever whatever axes you're using here it's like oh some researchers got together [TS]

00:22:13   and they just arbitrarily scored some jobs on some axes and then made the whole thing [TS]

00:22:17   but I don't think it's very informative. [TS]

00:22:19   What do you think what do you think I would look up I think I've talked about on the podcast before. [TS]

00:22:23   Can you guess if you look at some sports thing like cricket cricket years have you looked at cricket for years go away. [TS]

00:22:30   No nothing could replace cricket is that gods. [TS]

00:22:35   Oh well I think it has a good food is hard to replace a God I'll give you a clue. [TS]

00:22:41   Give me a call what's what's a regular segment on hello internet. Oh you want to look up airplane pilots. [TS]

00:22:47   Yeah well they have airplane pilot you guess first you guess [TS]

00:22:50   and they don't tell you don't you just want to yeah yeah I'm going to guess at something like over ninety seven percent [TS]

00:22:57   fifty four point six percent. [TS]

00:23:01   Jeff it is I don't think I don't I'm not going along with this website that's pretty hostile. [TS]

00:23:06   I can't wait to send that to my pilot my I've been telling him for years that he's going to get replaced. [TS]

00:23:09   How does he react to that. [TS]

00:23:11   He thinks has no chance [TS]

00:23:13   and I tell him it's almost a fake I'm playing again what we talked about this before it's longer than the cars [TS]

00:23:19   but it is it is inevitable in some of these are so dumb I'm just kind of randomly jumping around here. [TS]

00:23:25   Personal chefs thirty point five percent chance of being automated I mean I guess that depends on what you're kind of [TS]

00:23:30   talking about if I can three D. Printing my food that's not quite the same as a personal chef. [TS]

00:23:37   He doesn't even have any idea what they are currently the joy of that is least likely to be replaced by robots is [TS]

00:23:42   mental health and substance abuse social workers kids and the one most likely to be replaced [TS]

00:23:49   and is already being replaced is tele marketer that's not that's not surprising followed by podcast. [TS]

00:23:56   Nobody asked their podcast is zero percent chance they reply. So go irreplaceable irreplaceable. [TS]

00:24:02   Well speaking I guess if we're speaking of protests then there was the time to talk about your your new fling. [TS]

00:24:09   Oh yes yes I did just yesterday put out a new podcast I'm doing like a ten episode series with Mike Hurley relayed a [TS]

00:24:19   fan called cortex might just want to interview me about some of the ways that I work some of the nerd details about how [TS]

00:24:27   I work so if you want to hear more of me on podcasts you can go to relay dot F.M. [TS]

00:24:33   Slash cortex and give it a listen to it [TS]

00:24:37   and for all the people who've been contacting me asking how I feel about being like a spent wife can I can I just say [TS]

00:24:45   I'm currently open to offers [TS]

00:24:47   and if anyone wants to talk to me for negotiations I mean I'm very receptive at the moment. I did send you flying. [TS]

00:24:56   You did send me for. Yeah actually you can send me. [TS]

00:24:59   You did send me and that was I did and you know what they say when someone starts [TS]

00:25:02   and then if that was that's the first son have been up to funny business behind your back. [TS]

00:25:07   Is that what they say is that the that the advice apparently say if you stop sending me a whole lot of marriage if I [TS]

00:25:13   was I'm going to know that you've been slagging me up on the other protest would you have told me not to listen to. [TS]

00:25:19   Which makes me which makes me even more suspicious. [TS]

00:25:22   I don't know if it'll be good for you to listen to me another pod cast I think you have to listen to me enough. [TS]

00:25:28   It's like you want to listen to me more. [TS]

00:25:30   I have told you in private though that I have I am surprised that you have not started your own interview podcast. [TS]

00:25:38   I always thought that was inevitable like once we started doing this thing and we kept it going. [TS]

00:25:43   I've been just waiting for the day that you sent me an email telling me that you are starting your own pod cast [TS]

00:25:48   or you're going to go interview some other people with all the spare time I have. [TS]

00:25:52   Maybe we'll say I want to listen to the podcast. It's seems to me like we're going to have we're going to have. [TS]

00:26:00   Airplane pilots getting automated that's inevitable [TS]

00:26:02   and I feel like a Brady interview podcasters is inevitable for now I've got you. That's all I need. [TS]

00:26:10   Let me send you a flower. Thank you. [TS]

00:26:13   But for those who want even more gray in their life go check out cortex and hear hear all about it. [TS]

00:26:21   And now that we've indulge me but it's not plane crash caught one of this wake. It's only crash corner. [TS]

00:26:28   No it doesn't want to say oh it's a plane crash. See that very filling in the corner. [TS]

00:26:33   That's right because this week we have a new segment. Code plane crash. Well now it's not even crash. [TS]

00:26:42   It's just called plane compensation because guess what the sounds boring What is this. It is it is unbelievably boring. [TS]

00:26:49   I really regret it. [TS]

00:26:57   But I promise to indulge you remember the remember the podcast a while back where I talked about being stranded on the [TS]

00:27:04   runway for Alison and I missed my connection a mismatch potty and all that in a Strat. [TS]

00:27:08   Yeah I remember that well after that happened I thought I must be in town of the compensation [TS]

00:27:12   and I went to these Web sites and it said send this pro-forma letter and stuff so I just copied the letter [TS]

00:27:20   and I don't normally do this kind of thing but I was so fired up with I'm going to try. [TS]

00:27:23   So I said I filled out the letter I sent it off to the airline and then completely forgot. [TS]

00:27:28   I've done it because I like cool down and you know I didn't hear any more. [TS]

00:27:32   And just the other day so it must be months later I got this e-mail from the airline saying you are indeed entitled to [TS]

00:27:37   compensation for this form. [TS]

00:27:40   Give us your bank to send us a scan of your passport and we'll send you some money [TS]

00:27:44   and have they want to know because I just did this like a day or two ago. [TS]

00:27:48   If you don't have the money yet I don't have the money yet [TS]

00:27:50   but that that just gives me a whole nother reason to bring this up on a future protest [TS]

00:27:54   but I still think that's progress. I think this is interesting that could be something in this. [TS]

00:28:00   It could be something in this [TS]

00:28:00   but I mean I hope for your sake that you just get compensation for having to sit on the runway for forever [TS]

00:28:07   but I can only imagine that this is the start of some kind of long multi-year Brazil like process of of forms [TS]

00:28:16   and offices and signatures and notaries and all kinds of things that the next step is. Thanks for your bank details. [TS]

00:28:23   You no need to send us your passport and driver's license so we can verify your identity [TS]

00:28:28   and yes make sure that you were the person on the plane [TS]

00:28:31   and they know you know you have to go to the this office to collect the check in person. [TS]

00:28:36   In the basement you know passed the door marked be aware of Tiger in Nigeria this is I can only assume that this is [TS]

00:28:43   this is where this is going. [TS]

00:28:44   I hope for your sake they just send you some money but I wouldn't I wouldn't get my hopes up if I were you. [TS]

00:28:50   Now I'm expecting a big wad of cash. Some point it's going to be OK. [TS]

00:28:55   That's either going to send cash [TS]

00:28:57   and yet over go pass a brown paper bag just overflowing with money here you go say we're terribly sorry. [TS]

00:29:04   I'm looking forward to see it in the form of the next installment of plane compensation going to be getting better [TS]

00:29:15   and better and if I take the word plane out I think it will be completely boring condemnation corner. [TS]

00:29:24   That's the next corporate compensation going to avoid. That's good that's what I'm aiming for. [TS]

00:29:31   Yeah we can we can ask people for their tales of corporate compensation in the red it will be very exciting. [TS]

00:29:37   Ghatak sorry I'm bored [TS]

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00:31:00   and use the promo code H I so they know that you came from hello internet. [TS]

00:31:06   I want to briefly bring up the the death of John Nash who super super famous mathematician won the Nobel Prize in [TS]

00:31:16   economics. A lot of really impressive mathematics as well. [TS]

00:31:21   Hey He recently won the Belo I think I say able [TS]

00:31:25   but I think people who know the top Mathematical the prize which is kind of like the Nobel Prize of mathematics [TS]

00:31:32   and it was I was actually coming back from winning that prize he was on his way back from the airport in New Jersey [TS]

00:31:37   with his with his wife and they very unfortunately were killed in a crash the taxi they were in crashed [TS]

00:31:45   and it was it was interesting because apparently they were not wearing seat belts [TS]

00:31:49   and there seems to be a very heavy suggestion that perhaps this is this was this is why they died. [TS]

00:31:56   I don't know I don't know much about the crash but that's what people say. [TS]

00:32:00   Did you know that did you know that this incident. Yeah I have. [TS]

00:32:03   I had seen the news on Twitter probably that John nationals wife had been killed in a car accident I didn't realize it [TS]

00:32:08   was back from the award ceremony which makes it kind of extra sad yes it does definitely [TS]

00:32:14   and I was aware of this the end for those of you who don't know who John Nash is he was the one to trade by Russell [TS]

00:32:20   Crowe in A Beautiful Mind which is one of the people may have heard of him even if they are not math enthusiastic The [TS]

00:32:27   first thing I want to very quickly I ask is do you always wear seatbelts in Texas. [TS]

00:32:31   Because I know I sometimes don't you know you don't really want to. [TS]

00:32:38   It's funny because that at some point I know I grew up and I just didn't [TS]

00:32:44   and then it's at some stage of being an adult I remember realizing what the hell am I doing. [TS]

00:32:49   Well why why do I think that sitting in the back of a taxi doesn't require a seat belt to be buckled. [TS]

00:32:55   I don't know what I don't like I can't remember when this occurred [TS]

00:32:58   but I do remember having that thought at some point [TS]

00:33:02   and realizing like what the hell brain you know just because it's like a car that you're going to get out of quickly [TS]

00:33:08   doesn't change the requirement to wear a seatbelt. [TS]

00:33:12   It's kind of like buses [TS]

00:33:13   and seat belts like oh you know we don't need seatbelts on buses it's fine you're safe because it's a bus like Wouldn't [TS]

00:33:18   it be safer with the seat belt. I think it would be the lot of us who don't even have seat belts. [TS]

00:33:23   Yeah you wear the seat belt. [TS]

00:33:26   Well like I said I quite often don't in kind of you know the black cabs in London because it just doesn't feel like a [TS]

00:33:31   place that you have but I do if it's like a normal car. [TS]

00:33:36   But I should ALL the time as I said I was talking to a taxi driver actually a couple of days ago. [TS]

00:33:44   Well I was actually talking to my mate next to me about John Nash and we're talking about state outs [TS]

00:33:48   and he was eavesdropping So he started talking to us about seat belts in Texas than actually a driver with these [TS]

00:33:54   droppings I was using. He was yes. OK and taxi drivers apparently are not always required. To wear seat belts. [TS]

00:34:02   The reason being they go past apparently is because if they get sometimes if they can get into dicey situations with [TS]

00:34:09   like rowdy or drunk customers and [TS]

00:34:12   or you know situations can arise where wearing a seatbelt is not necessarily what the taxi driver wants. [TS]

00:34:19   So they probably should and I certainly would. But if they're not wearing one. [TS]

00:34:24   In some circumstances that is announced at least where I was. [TS]

00:34:28   I can't speak for every municipality government or council county city in the world. [TS]

00:34:36   If I can't I can't imagine this and I have to look at you but can you not imagine architects drivers wearing Saito [TS]

00:34:46   and that somehow some some criminal person next to them like could use the fact that wearing a seatbelt to pin the [TS]

00:34:53   minnow to do something to them and I think I can easily see why that would be a row. [TS]

00:34:58   This this just feels like a thing of probabilities that it's it's easy to imagine scenarios under which the driver's [TS]

00:35:05   seat belt might be a hindrance because of a passenger problem. [TS]

00:35:09   Yeah right and it's less easy to think about all of the time that they're driving on the road. [TS]

00:35:16   Surely that's the greater danger. [TS]

00:35:18   Like the probability I think I think basically maybe if if this road does exist anywhere it's just saying make a taxi [TS]

00:35:24   drivers. You decide you decide which risk you want I mean I have it up here that it's on the U.K. That in the U.K. [TS]

00:35:32   Laces taxi drivers is not required to wear a seatbelt and he's suggesting the taxi driver was wrong. [TS]

00:35:40   I'm agreeing with you I'm saying that the taxi driver is not required to wear. Oh no sorry. [TS]

00:35:46   Oh it does say that he's saying I was right. [TS]

00:35:48   I'm saying that you are right the servant Shook never the right before I just I just assumed you were going to tell me [TS]

00:35:54   I was room when your brain inserted the other thing. [TS]

00:36:00   I know I owe them that I have a government web page that agrees with you here saying on that I'd like drivers not all [TS]

00:36:07   fourth of June two thousand and fifteen. [TS]

00:36:10   This is happened as I was once before [TS]

00:36:12   and I was right I think I would love to have introduced that I think it should be a video. [TS]

00:36:20   There should be a video if you know you can have that you can have a few video. [TS]

00:36:24   I'm so I was I'm still just baffled by this and it also looks like on this website. [TS]

00:36:30   Seatbelts the law that another Siegal the outside my place. That's lovely. You've got us in this gorgeous seagulls. [TS]

00:36:39   Thanks a lot seagulls I think I like that the cat that's gorgeous. This is so hot in this apartment. Tape it gray. [TS]

00:36:48   Take the seagulls. OK Anyway back to seat belts the important thing. [TS]

00:36:54   It says here that a driver who is reversing does not need to wear a seat belt. [TS]

00:37:01   Seems like a very strange is the is the idea that maybe the seatbelt gets in your way when you're trying to reverse. [TS]

00:37:08   I don't know that's that's very strange and it also there's also an exception for police fire [TS]

00:37:14   and rescue services for seatbelts so can any exceptions I find it shocking and surprising. [TS]

00:37:22   There was another thing about John Nash's death that I want to bring up because obviously running like a mathematics [TS]

00:37:29   You Tube channel number thought there was sort of requests for a video so we could make some videos [TS]

00:37:35   and I guess it was more my decision than anything but I like it [TS]

00:37:39   but in talking with the people who were in my video we decided not to sort of talk about his death in the video [TS]

00:37:47   and just make it about some of his mathematics and it was just you know this is John Nash he was like a big deal [TS]

00:37:54   and this is what he did in his the mathematics behind and here's why mathematicians really respect him. [TS]

00:38:00   And there are a few reasons but one of them was always kind of wanted the video to be timeless and in a year [TS]

00:38:06   or two I was hoping people would watch this. [TS]

00:38:08   When John Nash's death was in the news and wasn't of tremendous interest and I still want people to watch it [TS]

00:38:14   and think OK That's who John Nash was and that's what his mathematics and I thought it would. [TS]

00:38:19   I thought it was unnecessary but I also thought it would really take to the video in the long term [TS]

00:38:24   and I don't always go down that path but this time I did [TS]

00:38:27   and there are a lot of comments on the video a lot of people thought maybe I'd recorded it before he died [TS]

00:38:32   or we didn't know he died or we were careless [TS]

00:38:36   or not many people thought it would have been the down purpose even though the end of the video I did put John Nash [TS]

00:38:41   and his year of birth [TS]

00:38:42   and death as well as the one tiny nod to the fact that I'm aware he's dead beat people on the Internet they don't often [TS]

00:38:51   assume competence but incompetence on your part. [TS]

00:38:56   I was just wondering how I would have thought you would agree with my course of action that sounds like something you [TS]

00:39:00   would do because you're a big one for a time the studios and. Yeah yeah I mean I want to be timely but timeless. [TS]

00:39:07   Yeah I would completely agree with that. [TS]

00:39:09   And I almost always feel like it's more respectful to not talk about his death. I definitely agree with that. [TS]

00:39:17   I don't think the fact that you know he died coming back from getting his prize [TS]

00:39:21   or he died in a you know unfortunate way is sort of should be used to define him in any way you know [TS]

00:39:28   and it's not like I was doing a news report I was just making a video about his mathematics [TS]

00:39:31   and I wanted that to take precedence. [TS]

00:39:34   Yeah I mean if you think about everything that can cast your mind back to scientists [TS]

00:39:41   or mathematicians whose names you can think of and whose work you know can you name how many of them died. [TS]

00:39:49   Like I'm going to think like most have very few but I think I got to know how Isaac Newton died. [TS]

00:39:54   It just was first one that comes to mind. And yeah I feel like that Albert Einstein die at his desk in Princeton. [TS]

00:40:00   Hundred percent sure that's right but I don't know I think he died in bed because his last words were to his nurse [TS]

00:40:05   and I think no one knows what they were because the nurse didn't speak German [TS]

00:40:09   or something like that could be wrong about that. [TS]

00:40:13   But yeah [TS]

00:40:13   but yes I I would feel that the timelessness of the video aside it's still correct to leave out his death because you [TS]

00:40:23   feel like you're trying to make a video that's explaining the interesting thing about this person's life [TS]

00:40:30   and how they died even if it's sad. [TS]

00:40:34   That's not that's not why this person is a notable person they are a notable person for the work that they have done [TS]

00:40:41   and you are explaining in a way why someone should care that this person John Nash existed [TS]

00:40:49   and so yeah I would definitely say it's the right decision to not talk about his death even if his death has just [TS]

00:40:54   occurred and you are making the video precisely because of his death. [TS]

00:41:00   I feel better now but you knew you know it [TS]

00:41:04   and I know I know I just said that because I felt like I should say something to end the conversation. [TS]

00:41:11   Podcasts are strange trying not to be awkward on a podcast is like that too. [TS]

00:41:16   Like if we were talking at the pub [TS]

00:41:17   and I just happened I probably would have just said something as well to sort of just respond to them in the most [TS]

00:41:23   artists [TS]

00:41:23   and they're looking at you call Mostly that's what we do have the additional problem that we can't see each other right [TS]

00:41:28   now and that we're just constantly aware that other people are listening to us talk. So there is like a big problem. [TS]

00:41:37   So we had on going there is your problem. Do you take photographs. [TS]

00:41:42   I'm guessing you probably don't know maybe you've got a thousand photos of your picture [TS]

00:41:46   when I was playing in the gardens or maybe one of you can see G.P. [TS]

00:41:50   Grey posing or quickly by the Clifton Suspension Bridge [TS]

00:41:53   or maybe that's one of you listening to the hello internet podcast while in hospital giving birth to a baby boy [TS]

00:41:59   whatever. He has they shouldn't remain hidden away on your phone or on a memory stick or some files on your computer. [TS]

00:42:06   Get them out there. Show the world and there's a great way to do it because fracture exists fracture let you go online. [TS]

00:42:15   Load your picture and then have it literally printed on a piece of glass. [TS]

00:42:20   Kind of like on the back of the glass front because I can get all scratched the back of this piece of glass [TS]

00:42:26   and then you can just melt to your wall is no frames no bits of paper no matter boards no problems at all just smooth [TS]

00:42:34   clean lines it's the sort of look and display that leads people like great pairing like a kitten [TS]

00:42:40   and by the way they do include all the little bits and pieces you need to hang on the wall. Don't panic. [TS]

00:42:45   You know going to be left with a job of mounting the spew a pane of glass on your wall. It's as easy as one two three. [TS]

00:42:51   Now I've been thinking outside the box [TS]

00:42:53   and I've come up with three other types of images that maybe you could get fractures on to glass like this [TS]

00:42:58   and hang it in your home or your office [TS]

00:43:00   or something like that your favorite astronomy image may be the Andromeda galaxy or one of your favorite nebula. [TS]

00:43:05   Their eyes really colorful and pretty and I think really great on the back of a piece of glass [TS]

00:43:10   or have fled that mean something to you. [TS]

00:43:12   The state leg of Maryland maybe depending on your House decor [TS]

00:43:16   but here is my favorite of the day how about a piece of yours [TS]

00:43:20   or someone else's children a particular eyecatching fingerpainting [TS]

00:43:24   or something like that which normally spends a few weeks on the fridge and then get so tatty [TS]

00:43:28   and covered in coffee stains. [TS]

00:43:30   I can think of loads of people who'd love that probably as a gift their favorite Kitty painting looking [TS]

00:43:36   or professional an own glass that would make a great cake site [TS]

00:43:39   when you give that a try these fractures do make great presence. [TS]

00:43:42   Now if you're feeling inspired and want to try this here's where to go. [TS]

00:43:46   Fracture Me dot com When you get there you get fifteen percent of your first purchase by using the of a carrot. [TS]

00:43:54   Hello Internet. That's all one word. Hello Internet. And it will also mean the fracture people know you. I'm from here. [TS]

00:44:01   That Web address again. [TS]

00:44:02   Fraction Me dot com So I go and give it a go this is a great way to get some of your favorite images out there. [TS]

00:44:09   Don't have them hidden away. [TS]

00:44:10   Have me on display so I want to follow up something with you from the last show that I want to talk to you then [TS]

00:44:18   but the conversation kind of got away from us. [TS]

00:44:22   But you said a very interesting thing which was that you were turning up your health lightbulb lately. [TS]

00:44:30   And I wanted to ask you about that. [TS]

00:44:32   But before we even talk about what's going on there the thing that caught my attention was was [TS]

00:44:37   when you mentioned this last time you prefaced it with a remark that was something to the effect of how you're not [TS]

00:44:44   supposed to talk about your health in public or. [TS]

00:44:48   Yeah what what what was that that that that struck me as a very interesting comment [TS]

00:44:54   and I'm I'm kind of curious to hear some of what we were making. [TS]

00:44:57   I don't remember where I read this or where I saw this but it did strike a chord with me [TS]

00:45:02   and I had like it smacked of some truth and that is when you this is this whole thing where if you set goals [TS]

00:45:09   or things you're going to do it can be counterproductive to tell people that you're going to do it because usually just [TS]

00:45:17   the process of telling people you're going to do it gives you that kind of satisfaction. [TS]

00:45:23   No drug release in your brain or whatever it is that makes you feel like you've done it. [TS]

00:45:27   And sometimes just telling people you know what I'm going to lose weight and I've got this big plan [TS]

00:45:31   and here's what I'm going to day. [TS]

00:45:33   Sometimes telling that hearing people go really really good in giving you pats on the back [TS]

00:45:37   and telling you how great you are and that that gives you the satisfaction you are looking for. [TS]

00:45:41   And sometimes you work just follow through with it I don't know I don't know if it's true or not [TS]

00:45:45   but it was quite a recent thing for me so you know you know I can remember all the times over the years I've said to my [TS]

00:45:50   wife are going to get healthy and just whatever. [TS]

00:45:54   Talk to me after you've done it so so so respect on time that was that I've now got it. She's a lot more of. [TS]

00:46:01   Don't tell people what you can and just do it. [TS]

00:46:04   But on the other hand telling people publicly you're going to do something can sometimes be quite good because then if [TS]

00:46:10   you don't do a whole lot of other people no you didn't do it. So that's why kind of the idea of who say this is. [TS]

00:46:16   Yeah I feel maybe bad about having drawn you out but it seems like you do kind of want to talk about this publicly. [TS]

00:46:25   I am fine with it get along fine with it. Why me. Let me get my report. [TS]

00:46:30   Because I've lost three point nine kilograms apparently I need to do my calculations. [TS]

00:46:37   It was a likes seven pounds I think it's like seven or eight pounds. Yeah that sounds pretty good actually. [TS]

00:46:45   Plus my little converter here. But it's getting to a point now that like if I do a Y. [TS]

00:46:49   and You know I'm a hair of my body and from wearing absolutely nothing [TS]

00:46:53   and next I'll be holding helium balloons of anything I can think of that I don't know what I can do that will help with [TS]

00:47:01   what helium balloons increase your way to decrease it. [TS]

00:47:04   It would decrease your weight other otherwise they wouldn't float. [TS]

00:47:07   You can't you can't bring helium balloons under the scale. [TS]

00:47:10   Brady that's just yeah I'm not sure but like if you've got if you've got a bucket they can and use [TS]

00:47:18   and then you fill it up with lots and lots of helium I guess you have to put under pressure would. [TS]

00:47:23   OK Here's the only question. Did you put enough helium in the cans that it floats. [TS]

00:47:28   Who's going to get the answer is No then the hand will increase your weight. [TS]

00:47:32   OK Well then I'm not ruling out I'm not really hear the ability. [TS]

00:47:37   I used to think about this all the time when there's a little ritual [TS]

00:47:42   when I was I was visiting my family home from college that my father was always excited to have me around because it [TS]

00:47:48   was time for me to help bring a whole bunch of stuff to the dump and we have to load up the car [TS]

00:47:55   and go to the local dump. [TS]

00:47:57   And one of the things that always caught my attention I thought was interesting was they have. [TS]

00:48:00   These big scales where the car has to has to weigh in on the on the way into the dump [TS]

00:48:05   and then has to weigh on the way out and you basically had to pay by how much stuff you were dumping off at the dump. [TS]

00:48:14   Yeah and I don't know if you cross my mind of how to cheat the system and I think like OK we can go to the dump [TS]

00:48:20   but we can have the car just filled with helium balloons and so the car is going to weigh less on the way in [TS]

00:48:27   and then we get in there. [TS]

00:48:28   We you know we dump the actual materials [TS]

00:48:31   and we release the whole of the helium balloon in the sky on the way back out [TS]

00:48:35   and I wondering if this would be cost effective like how much are we paying for the material that we're dumping raises [TS]

00:48:40   what is the cost of the helium balloons and never quite did that calculation [TS]

00:48:43   but I was always on my mind every time we went there. [TS]

00:48:45   I like I like thinking yeah how to how to cheat the municipal system I was just a story [TS]

00:48:51   when I was at the baby say about a guy who was really really really base doesn't really not support [TS]

00:48:58   and he was like he wanted to do it because he wanted to raise a lot of awareness about you know health problems [TS]

00:49:03   and he was telling me the only way he could weigh himself was to go to the local dump like that [TS]

00:49:08   and go on the on the scale that was used by the cars [TS]

00:49:11   and was the only scale he could use to weigh myself so that well at them [TS]

00:49:16   and I thought the main thing that struck me was gosh it must be like embarrassing. [TS]

00:49:22   Yeah I think I'd be pretty embarrassing. [TS]

00:49:23   He was such a man he was he was a brilliant man is really good what he was trying to you know the awareness he was [TS]

00:49:29   trying to raise but he was also a very big man. You're not using the dump scale for yourself. [TS]

00:49:35   I'm using I'm using normal ones [TS]

00:49:37   and I'm fighting the urge to weigh myself too often because if you if you do it too often like you get that you know [TS]

00:49:42   you get all the fluctuations but if you wait every week [TS]

00:49:45   or so because I have I have done this before quite successfully [TS]

00:49:49   and I found if you don't want to wait that's much more encouraging than during every day [TS]

00:49:54   when you start saying that a lapse and downs and thinking you're a failure. So here's a question then bury your way. [TS]

00:50:00   Your self every every week you saying oh I'm thinking I might weigh myself on podcast recording day. [TS]

00:50:05   Well this is where I was going with. [TS]

00:50:08   I don't turn this into like one of those like hell and I'm not going to spend every show talking about health stuff [TS]

00:50:14   but they will say the reason why I was asking is that if you will agree to do the weigh in on the pod cast I will also [TS]

00:50:27   do weigh ins on the pod cast because I also need to lose some weight [TS]

00:50:32   and I think this is a thing that we can do together Brady in front of maybe like a hundred thousand people so there's [TS]

00:50:39   no pressure as I said I lost three point one percent three point nine kilograms of people in one kilograms that's [TS]

00:50:47   actually since the last podcast recording you want you want to start there. [TS]

00:50:50   You want to get a week ahead of me on the I'm going to speed it up [TS]

00:50:54   but you will play it like you don't understand sport. I do understand sport Tell me Tell me about your sport. [TS]

00:50:59   All I was going to say I would do it [TS]

00:51:02   and sort of doing it like as an overall you know who loses the most over a fixed period of time who just H two weeks [TS]

00:51:10   who lost the most that weight and if you lost the most that week you get a point and then [TS]

00:51:15   and then it's like the next week you can win a point again so it's like in golf like more like match play rather than [TS]

00:51:21   straight play on the night of the thing you say is it going to get to a point where like like we stop so if not before [TS]

00:51:28   the podcast and it could affect our podcast performance it could be like this could be detrimental. [TS]

00:51:34   It could be like gosh writing grand entrance just sounded terrible and the whole cast [TS]

00:51:38   and I just like that because I didn't eat for two days before the product because they wanted to sleep. [TS]

00:51:46   That that will that will not be my plan. [TS]

00:51:48   That one up in my plan I think I will be I will be changing my my diet [TS]

00:51:52   but not necessarily restricting my diet I think would be would be my plan. [TS]

00:51:56   See I got more the other way more and more restrictive. And not change it with everything that we do. [TS]

00:52:02   It's not it's not the same but so like I get I don't want to push you [TS]

00:52:07   but I you're you're in on this you have to do that [TS]

00:52:09   and the next part I will tell you how much of last since this contest [TS]

00:52:13   and you do the same as long as we do it in kilograms people can convert the numbers. [TS]

00:52:17   People get rid of them and I but I can't say you're going to tell me. Kilograms. Oh that reminds me of a story. [TS]

00:52:23   Oh Mariah every time. This is a good this was this was a really good fan interaction. [TS]

00:52:29   It's like your dream fan interaction. [TS]

00:52:32   My wife ran a ten kilometer race in Bristol at the weekend and I went along to watch [TS]

00:52:38   and eating a bacon sandwich that did not feel healthy while she was running and so he would chop and it is she runs by. [TS]

00:52:49   So I was like I think I did bump into one like you know if you a slash listen before the race and hello and [TS]

00:52:57   and I was I was fine but then during the race I was still there were like fifteen thousand people [TS]

00:53:02   or something running in this race [TS]

00:53:04   and I was sort of standing at the side of the road biting for my wife to come by like near the finish line [TS]

00:53:09   and I was just a stream of people that was just like thousands and thousands of people running past in the thousands [TS]

00:53:14   and thousands of people lining the side so it was just like faces everywhere [TS]

00:53:18   and as all these people were running past me [TS]

00:53:20   and I was kind of waiting for my wife I was actually using the tracking app to see where she was which you'd appreciate [TS]

00:53:27   the fine my friends thing. [TS]

00:53:29   Yeah I like the one on your on your i Phone I knew I knew she was coming soon [TS]

00:53:33   and suddenly this this this voice says Brady and I couldn't figure out what was coming from [TS]

00:53:39   and suddenly I realized it was a guy who was not running past me. [TS]

00:53:43   Brady and I sort of looked at him and he goes on a big bend and they just kept running he never said so [TS]

00:53:50   and I don't know how he spotted me because I was just a face in this huge crowd and he was just running along [TS]

00:53:55   and he's obviously And normally when people spot you and you're like not particularly well known. [TS]

00:54:00   Just obscure person who is who have I seen that person before [TS]

00:54:03   and normally it takes someone like five minutes to say yeah that's that's who it is. [TS]

00:54:08   But he obviously picked me out in a crowd to sort of that's who I was. [TS]

00:54:11   Code said he was a fan and went past all of his old in the space of five seconds the guy was a genius. [TS]

00:54:18   And like I was so taken aback that I just sort of stood there and went. [TS]

00:54:22   Thanks for that after he came after he'd gone [TS]

00:54:26   and it was like it was over so quickly I do think that's Grace kind of fan interaction like there was no chance for [TS]

00:54:33   quickness because the guys had to get running but it was like it was a hundred meters from the finish line [TS]

00:54:38   and there were no nothing and so whoever you were. Thanks. Thanks for watching. [TS]

00:54:45   He was a legend that guy really enjoyed it pretty funny I have to say I did like I did like I did like it. [TS]

00:54:52   I was humbled again by and I'm going to say I'm humbled by things from now that this is going to be your thing. [TS]

00:55:01   So next podcast we will compare losses from this day to the next liners or games. Potentially yes or games or games. [TS]

00:55:13   I feel like I need a high five you over the Internet to get the started [TS]

00:55:16   but we can't do this it seems really it seems a bit like naff like a pit you know. [TS]

00:55:22   Now come on man like we're in this together. We're in this together. OK I five. There we go. Now that's even more now. [TS]

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00:57:46   Last time we signed getting things done the book which I think you brought up you brought this up. [TS]

00:57:52   It was totally my doing. [TS]

00:57:53   I bought the book without telling you where and because it meant so much to us decided I wanted to try and raid. [TS]

00:57:59   And I told you. [TS]

00:58:00   We're going to raid and then we kind of co-designer poulet said as homework said it will be discussed on the pod cast. [TS]

00:58:06   Other people can can join in it later if you haven't finished getting things done or you haven't started. [TS]

00:58:13   I guess that time in the podcast where we hear from people who pause it go out read a whole book and then come back [TS]

00:58:19   and then unplug the podcast this is you know I can I can I just say Can I just say I don't pause yet just wait a bit [TS]

00:58:25   longer before you decide whether or not to pause because here we go. Brady has not done his homework. [TS]

00:58:33   I thought you did do your homework. I've got something to say about it. OK OK what's going on here. [TS]

00:58:41   Well I put the book in paper printed form as proof not this counts as proof but there it is. [TS]

00:58:51   Oh I'm totally convinced now. [TS]

00:58:54   I have got the book and I've also tweeted pictures [TS]

00:58:57   and we can discuss how the printed version was probably better than getting the audiobook inviolable dot com element to [TS]

00:59:05   that. [TS]

00:59:05   And so [TS]

00:59:08   but it very quickly became apparent to me that my only chance to read this book before deadline was going to be getting [TS]

00:59:15   the audiobook because I'm doing as a stunt I'm doing a bit of running. [TS]

00:59:19   I want the dogs I'm doing a lot of driving at the moment so I figured the only time I was going to get to get this done [TS]

00:59:26   was was during these times. So I downloaded the audiobook. [TS]

00:59:31   I started listening to it and I read a little bit a little bit but then I started listening to the audiobook [TS]

00:59:38   and I think I've probably listened to an hour to an hour and a half of it and I have stopped with no plan to regime. [TS]

00:59:52   But here's the part where you will be proud of me. I'm laughing because just before we started recording this part. [TS]

01:00:00   Last I was having dinner with my wife [TS]

01:00:01   and I made some predictions about what might happen in the Getting Things Done section [TS]

01:00:06   and so far I'm actually kind of on track. [TS]

01:00:09   I think they come pretty well my predictions OK But tell me tell me what what what am I going to be proud. [TS]

01:00:16   Did you predict that I would have pages of notes for you. I would not have predicted that. [TS]

01:00:21   Well your prediction is about to go right because I went down today and I wrote down loads [TS]

01:00:27   and loads of things about why I would not be doing my homework. [TS]

01:00:31   One of the one of my thoughts is that you would find this book deadly boring. Is that correct. [TS]

01:00:41   I think you are under state in the case. Would have been welcome. [TS]

01:00:58   Can I just say before I before I get stuck in that I am aware that this book means a lot to you and [TS]

01:01:06   and everyone likes different things and I respect that you like and what it's done for you [TS]

01:01:13   and also you know I went into this with some prejudices which were enhanced as I was reading it. [TS]

01:01:20   And also I just really don't like homework [TS]

01:01:23   and I know like everyone says they don't like homework at school the never did homework at school [TS]

01:01:28   but you can understand how much I didn't like homework and how much I avoided doing it. [TS]

01:01:33   And the thing that makes me happy just about the fact that I am no longer at school [TS]

01:01:38   or university is that I don't have to do homework. I don't have to do things in my spare time. [TS]

01:01:42   I don't like rice and so it's really really hard for me to devote that much time to something I don't like. [TS]

01:01:51   So that's the benefit of being an adult you get to make decisions about your own time is wonderful thing [TS]

01:01:57   and I don't let me get my nights out. [TS]

01:02:01   Because I think I don't know how you feel about this but I feel like we should do with my side of things. [TS]

01:02:06   I am fascinated to talk to you [TS]

01:02:09   and I want to I want to clear something before you say anything anything further down this is [TS]

01:02:17   and this is the part where I have a hard time now remembering what we've said to each other in private [TS]

01:02:21   and what we said on pod cast. So I try to summarize it. [TS]

01:02:23   But I know that at some point maybe in the podcast maybe in person we had a we had a little bit of a misunderstanding [TS]

01:02:31   because I made some remark about how like oh this book won't help you. [TS]

01:02:36   Or I said something along those lines [TS]

01:02:39   and I think you took that in exactly the opposite way that I kind of I meant it because as we've discussed I actually [TS]

01:02:51   like you get more stuff done than I do. You work more than I do and I think you are more productive than I am. [TS]

01:02:59   Like if we compared our days. [TS]

01:03:03   And so when [TS]

01:03:04   when I made this remark about how like oh this book won't help you I was actually kind of coming at it from the from [TS]

01:03:11   the opposite perspective. [TS]

01:03:12   Like this is a book for I guess you know like twelve years ago me who was just totally useless at everything [TS]

01:03:24   and I don't I didn't necessarily think that for someone like you who is already working a lot and is very productive [TS]

01:03:32   and is [TS]

01:03:32   and is in control of their own life I didn't think that there would be a lot in this book for you so that is the way [TS]

01:03:41   that is the way that I meant it like oh you know that that was kind of perspective that I was I was coming from. [TS]

01:03:47   I have to say I was never insulted by you saying that. [TS]

01:03:50   I mean I took a little bit more along the lines of that because I would not describe myself as someone who's totally in [TS]

01:03:56   control of my. I don't I totally I'm going to have so. [TS]

01:04:00   I took it more like you know Brady's a little bit disorganized he will always be that way. [TS]

01:04:04   And and no books going to whip him into shape [TS]

01:04:06   and I did not take that as an insult to him as actually a stone cold truth. But I said it was not so. [TS]

01:04:13   So you don't feel like you know. You're upset me anyway. [TS]

01:04:18   No that's not what I meant [TS]

01:04:19   but what I just mean is it's like OK it's like there are some people who are more naturally productive than others [TS]

01:04:26   and I am I am very far on one end of that spectrum [TS]

01:04:29   and I think you are much further along on the other end of that spectrum and so a book like this is very different. [TS]

01:04:35   Like people on opposite ends of the spectrum have different problems they're trying to solve AI you sort of saying that [TS]

01:04:41   you feel like this book is maybe like you know a get healthy diet book [TS]

01:04:47   and it would be pointless for like a professional athlete to read because they're already healthy. [TS]

01:04:51   Or do you mean in that context or. [TS]

01:04:54   Yeah yeah yeah I think that that kind of is the case of like if you're taking someone who is incredibly unhealthy they [TS]

01:05:05   need different advice than someone who is already fit and trying to get fit [TS]

01:05:09   or may be OK And that's that's one way to look at it. [TS]

01:05:14   Well you make me feel a bit bad now because I'm about to get stuck into this book [TS]

01:05:19   but you should know you should feel good and let me tell you let me take you let me take you through the book. [TS]

01:05:25   Please you know let me take you through my opinions on the book [TS]

01:05:28   and these are open a stone having not finished so I know this is a bit like reviewing a movie [TS]

01:05:33   and you can stay to the end [TS]

01:05:35   and it should be taken with that massive grain of salt if you happen to know what chapter you just curious. No I don't. [TS]

01:05:41   OK And so this is this is basically just me going through a bunch of prejudices and fleeting impressions [TS]

01:05:50   and I'll try and get through it reasonably quickly. I don't take it personally if you like the book. [TS]

01:05:54   Don't rush don't write i am i can't wait I can't wait to hear this. I'm so I'm so excited. [TS]

01:06:00   Every where this book is massively successful and I have not written a massively successful book [TS]

01:06:04   or come up with a massively successful plan for people to organize their lives so this guy is already ahead of me on [TS]

01:06:09   the curve. [TS]

01:06:10   Well if that's not a criticism works I haven't made any movies but I can still say that a movie sucks let's go now. [TS]

01:06:18   Let me start with you real first impressions here. [TS]

01:06:20   This is this is based almost on the cover of the book and here in here in here and other people talk about it. [TS]

01:06:27   You're so excited I don't know whether you're going to get more excited by this [TS]

01:06:31   or suddenly feel like your world crumbles down [TS]

01:06:33   but anyway that's my first impression about this whole getting things done thing was that it was kind of almost a bit [TS]

01:06:41   cult like because you hear this thing about you know the G.T.D. [TS]

01:06:47   System and people have got like the little abbreviation for and a hashtag for a and you get the book [TS]

01:06:53   and it's got all these quotes all over [TS]

01:06:55   and it's got the sort of the smiley picture of the of your of your leader with his glowing white teeth like like like [TS]

01:07:03   he's coming down with the tablets from on high it's like over the Couldn't he's so he's so handsome [TS]

01:07:10   and smart looking and he's going to have all the answers for us. [TS]

01:07:14   So it's a bit like I don't know like I said cult like [TS]

01:07:18   and even on the back of the book this is a quote from the back of the book it says an entire culture of personal [TS]

01:07:24   organization that offers to change the way people work and live. [TS]

01:07:29   If someone came up to me on the straight with a clipboard [TS]

01:07:31   and said Can I talk to you about an entire culture of personal organization that offers to change the way that you work [TS]

01:07:37   and live I would probably think they're a Scientologist right. Or from some weird organization. [TS]

01:07:45   So this this was the first impression I had. [TS]

01:07:48   And then [TS]

01:07:48   when I started reading it a few things sort of started adding to that a few little terms hang on I mean it in the [TS]

01:07:55   pocket because I've been scribbling notes in the book. Yeah. [TS]

01:08:00   I talked about things like being engaged in the moment and things like that [TS]

01:08:03   and I'm moving in gosh one of the covers open for here. You know the first chapter a new practice for a new reality. [TS]

01:08:10   That sounds like almost religious doesn't it. [TS]

01:08:14   Anyway that was my first impression that impression subsided a little bit but not a whole lot. [TS]

01:08:22   But anyway let's move on to my next. [TS]

01:08:26   The next thing that I started feeling very strongly was that reminds me a lot of the run of the of fad diets like you [TS]

01:08:35   know how everyone you know how you had things like I remember like I think it was in the eighty's maybe there was the [TS]

01:08:40   Pritikin my mom got really into the pretty can die and put us all onto a nice I think his name was Nathan predicament. [TS]

01:08:46   But that's just me going by memory. [TS]

01:08:48   I didn't check but you know there was the guru who come up with this darn it was the answer to all your problems [TS]

01:08:53   and if you ate this and ate that and change everything this will fix your life. [TS]

01:08:57   And we had the Atkins plan more recently didn't we you know this he's this guy code. [TS]

01:09:02   I think that comes a guy I don't even think it was a person yes. Yeah I don't it was a man or a woman. [TS]

01:09:08   I'm probably a machine it's a man actually and if anyone were ever going to put down money on cult leaders [TS]

01:09:14   and their gender I think since leaving there we had the Atkins diet and you've got your five two diets going around [TS]

01:09:23   and this just seems like another one even to the point where it's called You know the G T D. [TS]

01:09:27   No Again again this for someone like me this results in the putting up of a lot of walls because I'm not someone who [TS]

01:09:34   buys into this stuff very easily and you know mine to be a lot of you know [TS]

01:09:39   when everyone was saying you have to read Men Are From Mars Women Are From Venus this is you know this is a book that's [TS]

01:09:43   going to change your life and so does everyone says this is the book that's going to change your life. I'm alive. [TS]

01:09:48   I'm resistant to one man [TS]

01:09:53   or woman coming down from Mount Sinai with the tablets telling me this is what's going to fix your life [TS]

01:09:59   and then this is what this. [TS]

01:10:00   It was like you know this is just one person this is just one person's opinion [TS]

01:10:03   and yeah he's come up with something that works maybe for him and a few other people [TS]

01:10:10   but anyway that was my second impression. The book itself and you touched on this already very very boring. [TS]

01:10:20   The word I would use to describe it is cut in juicing corporate politics. [TS]

01:10:27   These are some terms like I just this took me ten seconds to go through the book [TS]

01:10:30   and find these terms these are these are all from the book involve ourselves optimally integrated life management [TS]

01:10:38   system implementing standard togas and procedures for capturing ideas an input hierarchical outline with components [TS]

01:10:46   and subcomponents purpose and principles furnish the impetus like Who talks like this. He this is not how. [TS]

01:10:57   And actually funnily enough you talk like that sometimes but I certainly don't and I really really turned me off [TS]

01:11:04   and I remember when I was listening to. It's worse when you're listening to an audiobook and I know that's my fault. [TS]

01:11:09   Yeah I can imagine it's a way worth it. [TS]

01:11:11   It's like I say it's just like I cannot listen I cannot my brain is turning into bubble gum still [TS]

01:11:19   and I'm like it's like no matter how hot or not straining to pay attention I don't want to pay attention. [TS]

01:11:27   You're just talking about in such a cheap boring corporate terms and I think that's [TS]

01:11:33   and that's a product of who is you know I get the impression he's some consultant he spends so he used to spend most of [TS]

01:11:39   his time fleecing C.E.O.'s for huge amounts of money with this you know this plan [TS]

01:11:45   and obviously very successful except we say it works for some people but some may it's like stop make it stop. [TS]

01:11:52   And in the end I just had to just stop. [TS]

01:11:55   Like I said I mean I felt like you could take all the sentences in this book and. [TS]

01:12:00   Throw them up in the air and let them land randomly. And the PA could read exactly the same to me. [TS]

01:12:05   It would seem like the same book. That's that's honestly what it was like if I was going to make a T.V. [TS]

01:12:11   Show like a sketch comedy about some corporate away day where some guy comes and talks to people. [TS]

01:12:17   It would look like this guy and all of these terms I would use in my script. [TS]

01:12:22   This could be a script for my sketch comedy show. Felt like at times it was just way way too boring. [TS]

01:12:28   I'm sorry now I know it's important to be organized and Lord knows I could be more organized [TS]

01:12:36   but I just I just don't think I am the personality type who's going to be willing to take it from a book [TS]

01:12:43   and from some other person's plants and I don't think it is necessary to take it from a book or someone else's plan. [TS]

01:12:50   You know and I accept some people maybe some people are bigger than me and they have the open mind and this [TS]

01:12:57   and a man a woman enough to say you know what someone else needs to do this for me someone else needs to find the life [TS]

01:13:05   of me but for May it go. [TS]

01:13:07   It goes against everything I'm about as also goes against why I feel like I became a self employed person you know I [TS]

01:13:14   spent all my life in newspapers [TS]

01:13:15   and television doing having a wonderful job with more freedom than most people could possibly wish for [TS]

01:13:22   and still I felt dictated to by demands and deadlines and lists and all these artificially imposed structures [TS]

01:13:31   and I really value freedom and I fell and I know he says this is this is all about creating more freedom for you [TS]

01:13:39   but that's just that's just a line. [TS]

01:13:42   I don't I don't want more constraints and lists and an idea [TS]

01:13:47   and I don't want some corporate consultant to be the person who changes my life you know I have I only get one life [TS]

01:13:56   and I will and I want to do it my way. I don't want to leave David Allen's life. [TS]

01:14:00   Now one of this milestone of my life and you know that summarizes my main thoughts about this book [TS]

01:14:09   but I have also made some notes here but maybe maybe I'll save I have made some notes about why I think C.D.P. [TS]

01:14:16   Gray likes this book I don't know if you want to hear that or you want to talk I am loving this. [TS]

01:14:23   I love it when you're angry. This is great that you know what I'm not even the least bit angry. [TS]

01:14:29   I like I like I find this quite conservative and you know I know a lot of people are going to have read this book [TS]

01:14:35   and really like it [TS]

01:14:36   and I think a lot of our listeners particularly our more vocal listeners are going to be the sort of people who do like [TS]

01:14:41   this book and I totally respect that. Let me talk to tell you why I think you like it. [TS]

01:14:47   OK I want to get is why do you think I like and I were actually excited just very quickly did you read that [TS]

01:14:53   or are you listening to the new version of the old version I was listening I believe to the old version [TS]

01:14:59   and I was reading the new version or whatever. Ok what to say if you spoke I don't know if you like this word. [TS]

01:15:08   Don't take offensively because I don't mean it in the offensive way but and also I can't pronounce it [TS]

01:15:14   but I think it's but I think that much like I can't pronounce plu reality because you haven't noticed [TS]

01:15:19   but what I think I might have been by accident. [TS]

01:15:22   Now I think I think you fetish eyes organizational systems and work methods. [TS]

01:15:30   I think you get really obsessed with them and you really really love them [TS]

01:15:35   and I think no matter what you get I mean you happen to have a job now where you're very you very successful [TS]

01:15:41   when there are a lot of demands on your time and you get out of a mouse [TS]

01:15:43   but I think no matter what you did no matter what job you do even if you work in a toothpaste factory [TS]

01:15:50   and your job was just putting the lids on the tooth paste as it came down the conveyor belt you would be into this kind [TS]

01:15:55   of thing and want to have systems in lists and ways to do it and optimize it because it's just. [TS]

01:16:00   It's just what you have just who you are and and there's actually nothing wrong with that I say [TS]

01:16:05   but I think kind of the journey in the organization is brings you as much pleasure [TS]

01:16:12   and satisfaction at some level than the outcomes [TS]

01:16:16   and I can that's completely fine much like there are car enthusiasts who just feel like going for a drive because they [TS]

01:16:23   like they get pleasure from automobiles [TS]

01:16:25   and it doesn't matter where they're driving they might just drive around the block or drive around the countryside [TS]

01:16:30   and come home and I don't care where they went they got pleasure from the car [TS]

01:16:34   and from the ride him I think your brain derives pleasure from these kind of systems. [TS]

01:16:42   And [TS]

01:16:43   and this is again like I'm I'm the same on the same two with different things like for example I love watching a base [TS]

01:16:50   game of baseball because it gives me pleasure and I usually watch them days after the game [TS]

01:16:54   and I will avoid scores in the outcome although that's really what it's all about because I want to watch the game. [TS]

01:17:01   So there's nothing wrong with valuing the experience over the outcomes. [TS]

01:17:05   Now you can tell me afterwards if you think I'm right or wrong. [TS]

01:17:09   But first of all let me give you three pieces of evidence that I'm right. [TS]

01:17:14   OK OK Number one every talked about earlier you start of a whole new podcast about or your systems [TS]

01:17:25   and the way you work even though we talk about your work all the time here that's just not enough. [TS]

01:17:32   You could talk about this for ever. I don't and I'm seriously beginning to think maybe you will. [TS]

01:17:38   That's piece of evidence number one second place [TS]

01:17:42   and the second piece of evidence is you always say how fascinated you have by people's work systems you always are you [TS]

01:17:51   always say to me I'm really fascinated by how you work I'm fascinated by how destiny works. [TS]

01:17:55   I really want to know how know how this person does that. You're much more fit. By that and what they create. [TS]

01:18:01   I can I don't think like you have ever in your life asked me what I'm working on. [TS]

01:18:07   What's your next video about I ask you all the time what your next video is about and you won't tell me [TS]

01:18:11   but I ask you all the time. [TS]

01:18:13   You've never asked me what my next video is about [TS]

01:18:15   but you do always ask me how I work what I'm doing what my systems are. [TS]

01:18:20   Well that's my that's my second piece of evidence. [TS]

01:18:22   You're much more you're much more focused on systems than outcomes [TS]

01:18:27   and the last face of evidence is your videos your videos show this aspect your personality so brilliantly because [TS]

01:18:36   because you always say you're not interested in news you're not interested in politics you're really disengaged from [TS]

01:18:43   the real world. Yet you're obsessed with voting and election and you want to talk about the U.K. Election in depth. [TS]

01:18:50   You didn't know any of the parties were or any of the politics. You couldn't care less. [TS]

01:18:55   Oh you want to talk that was the system you used them in place. [TS]

01:19:01   Look at your pipe video I'd like as far as I know you're not particularly interested in Catholicism [TS]

01:19:06   and you're not a big follower of happenings in the Catholic Church. [TS]

01:19:10   But you made a fantastic video about the process you used to put the pope in place all you care about is system you're [TS]

01:19:18   not particularly interested in outcomes for that reason this book this book Getting Things Done is truly in every sense [TS]

01:19:27   of the word great porn [TS]

01:19:30   and it's not it's not just crave porn it's highly highly explicit poem because every page excruciating pain goes into [TS]

01:19:42   credibility Aaliyah's and workflows and ways to become more effective. [TS]

01:19:48   Like I think the touching this book because of how much pleasure I know it gives you. [TS]

01:19:58   That is that is that is the end of May. I find your evidence for my interest in systems unconvincing. [TS]

01:20:11   I'm actually I'm actually mostly embarrassed that I think you are right that I have never once asked you what you're [TS]

01:20:17   working on. That's fine it's what you're interested in and yeah I would just feel I feel a slight shame as a person. [TS]

01:20:26   We've discussed that I'm not very good at interpersonal relations you might like. [TS]

01:20:31   That's actually quite bad that we've known each other for a long time [TS]

01:20:35   and never once ever been like hey what are you working on. [TS]

01:20:39   So I had like a laughing [TS]

01:20:40   but I was also feeling like a horribly guilty realize like oh yeah that's right I am not a good friend sometimes you a [TS]

01:20:47   good friend you don't have to ask them what they're working on in no way to be a good friend and I was not [TS]

01:20:52   and I would never suggest otherwise so. So there we go. [TS]

01:20:57   Now this book you obviously have read before a long time ago [TS]

01:21:01   and because this is new edition out at the moment where he's he's updated it for a whole new generation of mini greys [TS]

01:21:10   to enjoy. [TS]

01:21:12   Did you have he finished as he finished your second I'm going to have the times how many times have you read it I was [TS]

01:21:19   trying to say this is I would say this is probably the fourth time I've read the book right over over. [TS]

01:21:28   I was trying to member him must've been it must of been like two thousand and five or two thousand and four [TS]

01:21:36   when I first came across it when I was first training as a teacher [TS]

01:21:39   when everyone was so blissful say about ten years ago. That's what I would have first found it. [TS]

01:21:44   And yeah I know I've read it a couple times since then. [TS]

01:21:47   How did you find out about it like how did it get on to a writer I don't remember specifically how I came across [TS]

01:21:54   getting things done and I wish I did I wish I remembered how I found it. It's like your origins do. Very good. [TS]

01:22:01   Basically I was I was really like falling apart in my Teacher Training years because I just like I was not an organized [TS]

01:22:08   person [TS]

01:22:09   and a thing that had always seemed like an advantage which was as a kid I kind of just like floated through high school [TS]

01:22:16   without a lot of work. And college was a bit of a wake up call but it wasn't like enough of a wake up call. [TS]

01:22:23   And so I sort of floated through that as well. [TS]

01:22:27   And and then suddenly it was it was when I was doing my teacher training it was like WOW I'M NOT PREPARED FOR THIS. [TS]

01:22:35   And then all of the things that I need to keep track of [TS]

01:22:37   and I just remember very well there was this huge binder of like five hundred things that you need to have pieces of [TS]

01:22:45   evidence for in order to be qualified as a teacher [TS]

01:22:48   and that was the kind of thing I was having a very hard time keeping track of all that [TS]

01:22:52   and I know I was I was reading books on productivity like God there must be something there must be something here that [TS]

01:22:57   can help me. And I remember reading a bunch of books that I thought were just really awful. [TS]

01:23:02   I can still remember what some of them were like oh this book is useless This book is terrible [TS]

01:23:08   and it at some point I came across getting things done after I had read a bunch of books where I felt like all of them [TS]

01:23:13   were just totally unhelpful. And this was the book that I did find helpful. And then what was different. [TS]

01:23:19   What was different about us. [TS]

01:23:21   So the reason the reason I asked before about the if you read the old version [TS]

01:23:27   or you read the new version is that the old version is definitely dated [TS]

01:23:36   but I actually I think it's actually better than the new version. [TS]

01:23:40   The new the new version has been updated in a way that I find it is much less actionable [TS]

01:23:47   and I have to say you know the one thing you are totally right that I am I am a systems person [TS]

01:23:52   and I am very fascinated by systems. And your piece of evidence where we're dead on. [TS]

01:23:56   But you are you are wrong about the pleasure that I derive from this. [TS]

01:24:00   Book I have always found this book kind of boring. [TS]

01:24:03   It's actually not the case that I'm like Oh boy all of these pages are great and when I was [TS]

01:24:09   when I was reading the newer version I actually could I have the old one is on my Kindle [TS]

01:24:13   and I was highlighted up for review that I was going to write. [TS]

01:24:15   I went back and forth a few times to to look at how some of the passages had changed. [TS]

01:24:21   Like oh god it like it got boring and up here like they took out some of the specificity [TS]

01:24:25   and added more of this kind of jargon. David Allen has a lot of business jargon. [TS]

01:24:32   Yeah if you don't read books that are business books this kind of thing can be death. [TS]

01:24:37   I tend to read like a disproportionate number of books I could broadly be classified as business [TS]

01:24:43   and they all have a kind of word poison in them that you have to you have to shuffle through [TS]

01:24:49   and then he went even a book that I read recently which was probably one of the best versions of this that there can be [TS]

01:24:54   which is creativity Inc by the guy who runs Pixar which is very interesting [TS]

01:25:00   and entire book about the system of how Pixar produces movies [TS]

01:25:03   but it still it suffers from the same kind of like dude at the top who is a manager and talks about horizons [TS]

01:25:11   and vision stuff and it's like God that's disappointing because I actually really want to read that book. [TS]

01:25:17   You will enjoy creativity Inc a million times more than you enjoy getting things done [TS]

01:25:22   but it still has a little bit of that like this is a book written by a business dude. This one will take. [TS]

01:25:28   And I actually do looking at the notes here like there's some stuff that I was final areas and getting things done [TS]

01:25:32   and here I have a highlight here let me go to this little page. [TS]

01:25:35   This is in the first edition [TS]

01:25:39   but it shows like a David Allen is living in a different world so there's a section which has eight it is a quote [TS]

01:25:44   typical list of things you might want to do someday. [TS]

01:25:48   And on that typical list are get a sailboat take a watercolor class take a balloon ride build a wine cellar spend a [TS]

01:25:58   month in Tuscany. Publish your memoir. It's like well it's interesting it's an interesting collection of things. [TS]

01:26:07   And earlier he uses an example of the kind of problem that you might have to solve where you have inherited six million [TS]

01:26:14   dollars from a relative and need to figure out how to disburse this money. [TS]

01:26:17   Like oh yes we also use these problems day for the house [TS]

01:26:19   and there's a whole bunch of examples of your work that you can feel the world that this person is coming from just [TS]

01:26:25   hanging out with C.E.O.'s and chairman and the and the first book suffered from that [TS]

01:26:30   and the the new edition I think is worse. [TS]

01:26:35   And is that a speech is that it is is is that some consciously House appealing to even someone like me because it's [TS]

01:26:43   like you know he's so successful and hangs out with successful people. If I do what he says I don't I'll be like that. [TS]

01:26:50   Now this is a this is a certain kind of thing in his book that I find really tedious [TS]

01:26:56   and I find self descriptions of like hanging out with other C.E.O.'s I just I can't stand that. [TS]

01:27:02   I can't stand that kind of stuff especially in a book that is sensibly about a particular skill that you're supposed to [TS]

01:27:08   gain or a particular thing that you're supposed to learn like I'm not really interested in you [TS]

01:27:14   and I like the current edition at the end has this little chapter about like David Allen's journey through the many [TS]

01:27:20   years of doing getting things done it's like oh man I couldn't skim that chapter any faster if I tried it was just like [TS]

01:27:25   flip flip flop like I just have I have no interest in that. So that's what I when I was reading this for the homework. [TS]

01:27:34   There were many times I kept thinking like God for Brady. [TS]

01:27:38   Well I think you know I was done very gradual I was doing I was listening to public service broadcasting is truly a new [TS]

01:27:45   album all about the space race and that's what people should be doing. There you go. [TS]

01:27:55   OK but don't feel bad I've stopped. OK but that's. [TS]

01:28:00   They quite relieved in some places like he didn't because of all the way through it because you may never have forgiven [TS]

01:28:04   me. I feel bad because we said it is hard work. OK Now here is here. [TS]

01:28:10   Here is the thing that I like I will be very curious [TS]

01:28:15   and be very curious to see people's reaction to the book in the read at this time and for four people [TS]

01:28:23   when you're leaving comments there's something that I want to know which is in addition to just how how did you like [TS]

01:28:28   or dislike the book or do you think is going to be useful and I also want to know your station in life now. [TS]

01:28:37   Are you a student. Are you an adult. Are you working are you not working. [TS]

01:28:43   Are you a business owner you know what what what is that your position in life. [TS]

01:28:49   Because I think that that can be that can have a. [TS]

01:28:53   I'm curious to see if there's any kind of relation between certain kinds of people who find this useful in certain [TS]

01:28:58   kinds of people who don't. I would really like to know more than just what people think about it. [TS]

01:29:03   And you still haven't told me though I know this is a huge question about a book that's so influential for you is is [TS]

01:29:10   because you're talking quite negatively about it as well. Why is this a good book. What value of this book. [TS]

01:29:16   So I was making notes on on the stuff that to me is the kind of core of this book [TS]

01:29:25   and the stuff that really caught my mind at the right time in my life. [TS]

01:29:32   And I even made a note for anybody who wants to skim through Chapter five is like the real starting point of this book [TS]

01:29:38   which I'm sure you never even you never even made it that far is just like you know a battlefield of soldiers not not [TS]

01:29:43   not getting to the fifth mile because they've all just died on their way. [TS]

01:29:46   Yeah like dead on the ferry right about mile marker point five. [TS]

01:29:53   I mean some of the stuff that I'm about to say is going to sound just blindingly stupidly obvious. [TS]

01:30:00   If I had to condense the book down to the one thing that really stuck with me [TS]

01:30:06   and then really ended up changing my life. He hammers on the notion of your brain is not for remembering things. [TS]

01:30:18   This is not the job of your brain. [TS]

01:30:20   Yeah you need to you need to take everything out of your mind [TS]

01:30:23   and put it into some kind of external system that your brain is for doing intellectual work or making decisions. [TS]

01:30:34   But it is not a storage system and that is really where things started to change for me [TS]

01:30:42   and I was finally reading through this and kind of remembering where I was at this point in my life. [TS]

01:30:48   I will give you an example of how just incredibly stupid I was when I was younger [TS]

01:30:53   and like OK so I had all these things to keep track of [TS]

01:30:56   and some Somehow they like oh maybe I can just remember the five hundred things that I'm supposed to do to train as a [TS]

01:31:01   teacher of course that's not even remotely possible. [TS]

01:31:04   But I was reading this [TS]

01:31:05   and I had a memory of like I got it this incredibly dumb idea I had of I was trying to come up with a system that would [TS]

01:31:13   allow me to memorize all of the various calendar appointments that I had. [TS]

01:31:20   Now we have discussed before that I have some time to do kind of memory systems to remember things like these these [TS]

01:31:28   kind of these tricks that you can do to make it much easier to remember a large volume of stuff [TS]

01:31:34   and it's like it seems impressive when you see memory experts do stuff [TS]

01:31:37   but like there's a there's a mechanism behind this there's a system behind this sort of like some people you hear about [TS]

01:31:43   using these memory palaces. [TS]

01:31:44   I think that the memory passes I want to hear about because it's nice to visually describe I never did that I use some [TS]

01:31:51   other systems but it's the same idea that there's like there's like a mechanism for this. [TS]

01:31:55   Yes and when I was when I was training as a teacher I was looking into. [TS]

01:32:00   Do those kind of mechanisms for date based information [TS]

01:32:04   and I had this notion that I was going to somehow memorize this complicated calendar that I had of day that I'm at the [TS]

01:32:12   university days when I'm at the training school [TS]

01:32:14   when in the meetings with my advisors went to my meetings with the local advisors at the school [TS]

01:32:18   when do I need to be here when do I need to be there [TS]

01:32:21   and it's it's shocking that I could ever be that stupid to think that's a reasonable solution as opposed to something [TS]

01:32:26   like a calendar like mine and you write things down on the calendar you moron. [TS]

01:32:30   But [TS]

01:32:31   but somehow I thought like oh I'm I'm like a smart guy right I should be able to remember where I'm supposed to be at [TS]

01:32:36   all the time at all times like no don't do that. That's an incredibly stupid thing to do. [TS]

01:32:42   It's highly error prone and is not going to help you at all [TS]

01:32:45   and so the notion of like write your stuff down on a calendar idiot. This was life changing to me. [TS]

01:32:52   And the one little item that I also started with was I kept a small paper notebook in my back pocket [TS]

01:33:02   and always had a pen with me [TS]

01:33:04   and I really really got into the habit of Whenever I had any thought about anything like a fleeting thought just write [TS]

01:33:13   it down. Don't even judge what it is. Don't think if the thought makes any sense. [TS]

01:33:18   Just like Just quickly did write it down in this little notebook and then once a week go through the notebook [TS]

01:33:23   and decide if anything needs to be done about that stuff. [TS]

01:33:26   And I often talk about like loops like reviewing your life in loops. I think that was like the earth loop for me. [TS]

01:33:35   The beginning point of having a little notebook writing things down and then going back [TS]

01:33:40   and regularly looking at that notebook I have to say great the benefit of that kind of night because I've come a guy [TS]

01:33:47   has lots of ideas over time over connectivity about this or I should do that [TS]

01:33:50   and most of the time they just fall out of my head and move on forever. [TS]

01:33:54   So obviously I see the value of what you're saying but I do feel like if I did that. [TS]

01:34:00   I would have a lot less ideas [TS]

01:34:01   and I would also have just a lot less fun laugh because I just always be writing stuff down [TS]

01:34:06   and pulling out my notebook and it would just that would consume me [TS]

01:34:10   and I'm just not that's the that's my problem with a lot of the stuff this seems to be hinting at. [TS]

01:34:16   I feel like all these systems just become consuming and I sometimes want to worry about it [TS]

01:34:22   but I sometimes think that about you know I sometimes think to these systems can shame him like I know if I know that [TS]

01:34:29   result in nothing being lost and you know you're like a really reliable hard drive. [TS]

01:34:34   But I sometimes wonder whether or not you just like having fun. [TS]

01:34:39   The experience that I had when you set a goal to be constantly writing stuff down. [TS]

01:34:44   The thing that I found really interesting [TS]

01:34:47   and where I feel like oh I became a different person is that in the beginning yes I found myself just writing stuff [TS]

01:34:55   down all the time. [TS]

01:34:57   Yeah [TS]

01:34:58   but I swear like what happens is your brain gets reprogrammed in such a way that what you realize you're doing is you're [TS]

01:35:05   actually like thinking about the same things over [TS]

01:35:08   and over again from different angles because your brain is so used to trying to remember it. [TS]

01:35:14   And what I feel like now is that my brain is much calmer than it was when I was younger [TS]

01:35:21   and so I don't actually feel like oh things are constantly popping into my head because like I have this whole system [TS]

01:35:28   that my brain has learned to trust it like Oh if if you do have a thought you can write it down [TS]

01:35:34   and you know that it will be reviewed at a later point in time and you don't have to like hold on. [TS]

01:35:40   And that's what I've I feel like very relaxed. You know in a way that I didn't before. [TS]

01:35:48   And it's something that I actually notices [TS]

01:35:49   when I'm not doing well with the system because like with everything in life it goes it goes through cycles like [TS]

01:35:55   sometimes you're really on top of stuff and sometimes you're not. But a key thing that I notice is. [TS]

01:36:00   As like repeatedly thinking about something like I can tell something is on my mind. [TS]

01:36:05   And that's usually a sign of like Who are you really keeping track of the stuff [TS]

01:36:08   or are you trying again to we're just remember what you're supposed to do that's important [TS]

01:36:14   and I find that that's a that's a bad sign for me [TS]

01:36:18   and it's actually like I was very interested to do this homework now because I've been aware that I haven't been as on [TS]

01:36:25   top of my system lately as I would like [TS]

01:36:28   and I've had things like on my mind kind of burning up some mental cycles in a way that is not helpful [TS]

01:36:36   and they go yes right pay attention to this. [TS]

01:36:39   This behavior like it back into the habit of writing all the things down so it's like you feel really busy at the start [TS]

01:36:45   writing everything down but that's like a temporary phase [TS]

01:36:48   or at least that was the experience that I had you know now I keep my phone on me all the time [TS]

01:36:53   and I have it set up that I can very quickly write things down [TS]

01:36:56   but I don't pull it out like you know one hundred times an hour of like oh I thought this thing put the phone down [TS]

01:37:02   but I think you're right back up right. [TS]

01:37:03   That's not the case that you do because all you do to be a self editing regime of late like you do do you do a bit of [TS]

01:37:09   editing about that's not even worth writing down. No not really. [TS]

01:37:16   Yeah I don't have that that kind of thing happen doesn't I WAS don't know how to. [TS]

01:37:24   I feel like I'm lacking words for an internal process here. [TS]

01:37:28   What qualifies as something worth writing down like if you're walking along the park [TS]

01:37:32   and you think oh there's a pretty you don't think there's a pretty in your phone. [TS]

01:37:39   But what counts as a thing to write down. [TS]

01:37:43   Yeah I mean that's fair but [TS]

01:37:44   but at the same time something like birds are pretty is not the kind of thought that is internalized in words in my [TS]

01:37:51   brain. [TS]

01:37:52   Rose is like you looking and you are as like oh your eyes and your brain are seeing birds [TS]

01:37:57   and you're hearing a song this kind of thing. What something. [TS]

01:38:00   You write down that I don't write down I mean the obvious one is thoughts about future videos. [TS]

01:38:09   And very often what I what I find when I go and [TS]

01:38:12   when I go on walks I'm just walking around is some little sentence crap will pop into my head of like a clever way to [TS]

01:38:20   phrase something and I'll write that down [TS]

01:38:23   and very often I'll realize later like oh that actually fits very well with this other project that I might work on [TS]

01:38:29   some day and so I finally took like a little pithy one liner and I said yeah the words that's that's exactly right. [TS]

01:38:35   Sometimes you come on a play on words or just like a sentence that has a nice rhythm to it. [TS]

01:38:41   I'll write that down [TS]

01:38:42   and so I'll file it away in my system because I realize later like oh it's connected to this other thing sometimes it's [TS]

01:38:47   not. But most of the time there's obviously some project of mine that this is connected to. [TS]

01:38:52   So that's the kind of thing that I'll write down I just feel a bit like [TS]

01:38:55   and I'm not saying that I'm not a super creative guy you know full of the most ideas in the way that I feel like if I [TS]

01:39:02   collected every single thought I had like that but it would be like an avalanche [TS]

01:39:07   and I was with no way to do with it what to do with it all it would just be because I think I have like a hundred of [TS]

01:39:12   those thoughts every hour [TS]

01:39:13   and I would still say that if you start writing that stuff down you have less of those thoughts than you think [TS]

01:39:20   and I can't I can't remember where I read it but it I think it was like Bill Watterson the guy did Calvin and Hobbes. [TS]

01:39:27   But talk about like nothing nothing makes you realize how how boring most of your ideas are than [TS]

01:39:32   when your livelihood depends on generating good ideas [TS]

01:39:34   and I really like writing those ideas down makes you really face that and [TS]

01:39:40   when I go through like a now the digital notebook so [TS]

01:39:43   when I go through the thing that I've written down I mean half of it is just immediately deleted like oh this is just [TS]

01:39:48   obviously nothing at this doesn't go anywhere this is just some some dumb thought [TS]

01:39:52   or I'm never going to do anything with this this is just a stupid project idea. [TS]

01:39:56   How do you know when that point comes great how do you know when to delete. [TS]

01:40:00   How do you know when something is no longer of value. [TS]

01:40:02   If you're valuing everything and writing it all down how do you didn't devalue it. [TS]

01:40:07   So this is the Getting Things Done system now that we're talking about [TS]

01:40:09   and I guess the point is to have something on you all the time to capture your thoughts. [TS]

01:40:14   So now that's my phone and it used to be a notebook and then the other phase is deciding on a time [TS]

01:40:21   when you're going to sit down and you're going to go through those things [TS]

01:40:26   and that is like you're separating the process of filtering your thoughts from simply recording your thoughts. [TS]

01:40:33   So at that point when you sit down. [TS]

01:40:34   So like once a week I'll sit down OK let me just go through all of these little notes that I've written [TS]

01:40:38   and then is the point that I'm making some kind of judgment about does this need to be filed somewhere [TS]

01:40:43   or is this just nonsense and I'm just going to delete it. [TS]

01:40:46   I mean one of the things one of the things out Sega's deleted most is they come up with just ideas for apps that I [TS]

01:40:53   would want on my phone and I'm not an app developer I have no skills in this area. [TS]

01:40:58   This is probably a thing that is never going to work out but I'll still write them down and then very often [TS]

01:41:03   when it's you know three days later and I'm doing my weekly review [TS]

01:41:06   when I'm going through all my notes I realize you know what. That's a terrible idea. [TS]

01:41:09   That's an absolutely terrible idea for an app that I've written down [TS]

01:41:12   and I feel free to just delete it you know just that it is gone. So that's kind of the way this works. [TS]

01:41:19   OK I mean that kind of goes against something that I sometimes think [TS]

01:41:25   and it's actually some advice I have to give to people about sort of what I do in sort of video journalism [TS]

01:41:31   and that is kind of a some really good advice I was given at the start is really stuck with me is [TS]

01:41:36   when you go somewhere to like make a film or do an interview [TS]

01:41:39   or whatever you can to make a film about don't don't get your camera out straight away. Don't start filming everything. [TS]

01:41:47   Take it time. Get the lay of the land make the people think about the film you know build relationships. [TS]

01:41:54   Know what's what and then start filming. Get what you need to be efficient. [TS]

01:42:00   And then ladies don't walk in put you camera out going all look at this shiny thing I'm going to film that look at all [TS]

01:42:06   of your question was your question always [TS]

01:42:08   and like that's what young extend experience great what do they film everything they panic [TS]

01:42:12   and then they get back to the office and I got like eighteen hours of footage [TS]

01:42:15   or I don't I don't know what to do whereas I can come back [TS]

01:42:18   and I've just got fifteen twenty minutes exactly what I need and I can officially turn it into a film [TS]

01:42:24   and what you're sort of advocating here is almost the exact opposite of that. [TS]

01:42:28   It's like it's like it's like get out of line or catch absolutely everybody fly that flies by [TS]

01:42:34   and then spent thousand hours now is back at the office thinking you know I probably shouldn't go that butterfly. [TS]

01:42:39   What a waste of time that was on nine of those butterflies [TS]

01:42:41   and I've already had one hundred of them before who's kind of a bit like Shouldn't you have like some sort of editing [TS]

01:42:47   or filtering system where the capturing sepak the thing that's different with your situation [TS]

01:42:52   and I can see that is totally good advice that the way to to put video together for a news broadcast like that. [TS]

01:43:00   But that's different because you are already talking about you're at the stage where like a project needs to get done [TS]

01:43:08   and yes overshooting footage is unhelpful [TS]

01:43:12   and you're already discussing like a project that has a system that has been tested by people like the phase that I'm [TS]

01:43:20   talking about here is stuff that is much much earlier than that. [TS]

01:43:25   Just you know things that might turn into projects someday but you don't know necessarily where they're going. [TS]

01:43:32   Right so this is this is like way earlier like [TS]

01:43:35   when you decide you're going to do a video series on going to the middle of England for example which you did before [TS]

01:43:41   right. [TS]

01:43:43   I'm discussing the point at which you're walking down the street [TS]

01:43:46   and for some reason you start thinking about the middle of things like we're in the middle of Scotland where the middle [TS]

01:43:51   of Wales [TS]

01:43:52   and then you just write down your notebook like the middle of things like question marks like that the little thought [TS]

01:43:57   that you have and then. [TS]

01:44:00   Week later you look at it [TS]

01:44:01   and if it still has some kind of hold on your mind you think well maybe this is something there's something here. [TS]

01:44:06   But very often you look at thoughts and there's nothing there. [TS]

01:44:09   I mean I just I pulled up my list of notes right now just to see like I'm curious how many have I written down [TS]

01:44:14   and it's probably been you know if I've been just over a week since I've gone through the notes [TS]

01:44:22   and I think I have can't be much more than thirty things written down over the course of the week is not a this is what [TS]

01:44:32   I mean like it's the pace slows over time but [TS]

01:44:36   when I first started it you know the in the in the first couple months it felt like I was constantly writing stuff down. [TS]

01:44:42   But that's not the case anymore. [TS]

01:44:44   OK What have been your other thoughts ratings throughout this most recent time that is is a still is a still special to [TS]

01:44:51   do still does it still make you feel you know I mean you speak in such glowing terms about it [TS]

01:44:56   when you talk about changing your life do you do you still look at it was that fun. [TS]

01:44:59   No I made I know I was quite negative about it but you know no. [TS]

01:45:02   Do you still do you still have the fullness for or do you look at it like like like an ex partner [TS]

01:45:08   and think oh I can't believe I was something that back in the day. No I don't feel that way. [TS]

01:45:13   I would still very strongly recommend this to people who are trying to figure things out like how how do I get [TS]

01:45:22   organized. [TS]

01:45:23   I would definitely still recommend that because going through this like I did make a bunch of notes on the things that [TS]

01:45:30   I thought like yes these are these are the core points like if you can do these things it's extremely helpful. [TS]

01:45:38   And there is I think it's I think it's either Chapter five or Chapter six [TS]

01:45:43   but there is one point where a lot of the business language starts to drop [TS]

01:45:47   and as I go I remember the section where he kind of like walks you through what he would do if he was being hired to [TS]

01:45:56   help you organize your life and he talks about OK. [TS]

01:46:00   You've set aside two days here's what you're going to do going to collect all of your things together [TS]

01:46:05   and then he talks about how how it how we're going to go through all of these things how we're going to start like [TS]

01:46:10   building a person's system up from nothing into something that is at least somewhat functional. [TS]

01:46:16   And I still think that there is a lot of value in that. [TS]

01:46:21   Without a doubt I have tried to put it on my website down to now of these things I'm calling like Book Notes which are [TS]

01:46:30   me reading a book and then trying to pull out the parts that I think are useful and I did that with creativity [TS]

01:46:36   and can i did that with bird by bird which is a book on writing [TS]

01:46:39   and one of the reasons why I wanted to do that is I am just very aware that I read a lot of books that have what I [TS]

01:46:48   would say are big parts of them that are frustrating or that are not good but it's like I don't really care. [TS]

01:46:58   In some ways about the parts of the book that aren't good I don't want to write a review saying oh this part was good [TS]

01:47:04   and that part wasn't good I care about like what can be gained from a thing. [TS]

01:47:10   Despite all the spoilers kind of like the boilers [TS]

01:47:14   and getting things done to me has a really core section that is very valuable. [TS]

01:47:24   But but you do have to get through a whole bunch of other stuff to get there [TS]

01:47:29   and the language is definitely one of them. The business speak is is it can kill a man. [TS]

01:47:34   I was laughing before because David Alan is like a very interesting company shin of kind of like a business person [TS]

01:47:40   but also a hippie like he constantly talks about your psyche and these other California buzzwords. [TS]

01:47:46   And there was a like a mortar or whatever your mind has like water. [TS]

01:47:51   It's it's like God you're grading me the wrong way to acces your body but you've quite impressive act to that as well. [TS]

01:48:00   But the purview of the holy trinity of things to turn me off. Yes Yes That's exactly right. [TS]

01:48:04   But oh the cult thing that I was going to I made a no comment. Whence does come back on that which was. [TS]

01:48:10   I also happen to come across getting things done at around the time it was kind of becoming popular on the early [TS]

01:48:19   Internet [TS]

01:48:20   and there are a lot of great materials that people have written about implementing getting things done in their own [TS]

01:48:29   lives [TS]

01:48:31   and those things I remember reading just a ton of those to try to see like oh how are people making this system work [TS]

01:48:39   and that stuff is very useful and you kind of embarrassing I don't actually want to mention this [TS]

01:48:44   but I still have on my youtube channel that very very old video which is like time management for teachers it's one of [TS]

01:48:51   very first things I ever did and I really watch that is in preparation for the pot get [TS]

01:48:56   and get it was like these these horrifying flashbacks of of this whole this whole life [TS]

01:49:02   but that is a case where you can see like what I'm doing there in some ways is explaining here like here's how I [TS]

01:49:07   organize the packets of paper for classes Here's how I do a range in these lists [TS]

01:49:12   and what it is it's like it's an adapted Getting Things Done system for for being a teacher and that's all [TS]

01:49:18   and like man did that get me through my teaching career. [TS]

01:49:23   Like I remember that clipboard and the checklist that I had every day and a couple of sheets [TS]

01:49:28   and all of that came out of getting things done [TS]

01:49:30   and I would never have gotten through teaching without it I would never I would never have gotten through teaching [TS]

01:49:36   without it. But I recommend the book. [TS]

01:49:40   But I by no means think that it is some kind of incredibly gripping flawless piece of work. [TS]

01:49:47   You would never have gotten through taking that if you say it is impossible that you just sort of think it is that like [TS]

01:49:53   a lot of people don't like to. Did you did you like because you used the term you so but I'm not. [TS]

01:50:00   Stuff in there is aligned in the obvious and like so. [TS]

01:50:04   And you know it could be argued he presented it in the right way at the right time. [TS]

01:50:09   Perhaps but but would you know have just taken some of the stuff that like I remember when [TS]

01:50:14   when I first started on the You Tube stuff because at at that they be saying My life was pretty basic [TS]

01:50:19   and I knew what I was going to work and then I pretty much find out what I was doing that day and then I come home [TS]

01:50:25   and I go to work again and I didn't keep a diary. [TS]

01:50:28   And then when I started it was a huge huge stuff and I was meeting with Professor X. [TS]

01:50:31   At this time and I was meeting with scientist at this time. [TS]

01:50:34   At first I was just remembering all that's on Wednesday and that's going to be on Friday. [TS]

01:50:39   And then eventually it was like I need a calendar like I did. I didn't need a book to tell me to get a calendar. [TS]

01:50:47   It was just like I need a calendar this is I just can't remember this much stuff like that. [TS]

01:50:52   Like what I guess what I'm asking is tell me the secret What's it like Save Me all the trouble of reading [TS]

01:50:58   and tell me what the thing is in this book that I don't already know. I don't want to and I don't know. [TS]

01:51:06   The thing is you can you can write on an index card. The core features of the system. But ultimately it is very simple. [TS]

01:51:15   Can you tell me that index card. [TS]

01:51:18   Yeah I guess so if I had to summarize it in a few bullet points one would be the first thing that I said before which [TS]

01:51:23   is write everything down don't keep it in your head. [TS]

01:51:27   The next thing is that you want to have a list of projects [TS]

01:51:31   and the idea is it is every single project that you might possibly be working on right now. [TS]

01:51:38   Yeah and the key piece of that again comes from the first point like everything. [TS]

01:51:45   There's a huge advantage [TS]

01:51:46   when you can look at a list that encompasses everything in your life that you're trying to accomplish as opposed to a [TS]

01:51:53   list that's like eighty five percent complete [TS]

01:51:55   and I can I can speak from experience that it is it is a different experience. [TS]

01:52:00   Nice to have a complete project list versus an almost complete project. [TS]

01:52:03   What's an example of something that would be on Gray's complete project list that wouldn't beyond an incomplete normal [TS]

01:52:09   person list. What would I forget to put on. [TS]

01:52:14   Well the thing is the complete project list usually has a lot of just like little stuff that you wouldn't normally [TS]

01:52:21   think of it's again it's the kind of thing that you would try to keep in your mind like buying a buying birthday [TS]

01:52:27   presents. [TS]

01:52:29   Yeah like OK so I'm just going on my own on the focus here to just take a look at what's in here so I give you some [TS]

01:52:33   examples of like small things that I have. Yeah. [TS]

01:52:38   OK so I have a couple of things that I like related to doctors visits on here rather that are things that I know past [TS]

01:52:44   me would have just had in my brain and then just like oh you know I see the doctor like that kind of thing. [TS]

01:52:51   But now it's written down like it's part of this little system here. [TS]

01:52:53   There's a few things that I want to set up in the house which again are very very minor things that need to get done [TS]

01:52:59   but they're still written down they're still here. Yeah it's like the thing is it's not about the big projects. [TS]

01:53:07   It's really about having the little projects as well. But you wouldn't call this a To Do list. [TS]

01:53:12   No the project list is like is a different thing from a to do list and that's that's what kind of makes it special [TS]

01:53:20   and it finds I kept I kept looking for something in the Getting Things Done book that I think oh I thought this was in [TS]

01:53:25   here but I think actually either I pulled this from somewhere else or it's something I stumbled upon on my own [TS]

01:53:31   but I always write the projects as a past tense sentence as in like this is the thing that needs to be done. [TS]

01:53:40   There's like a doctor visit scheduled is the way I write down the projects. You Tube video on topic X. Online. [TS]

01:53:52   Yeah I got it from had like wife computer fixed. Like that's the way I will write those things down. [TS]

01:54:00   The next bullet point on the little index card is that you have a separate list that is actions that need to be taken [TS]

01:54:10   to move those projects to completion. So every project has assigned subleased breaking out of it. [TS]

01:54:16   Yes every project then you you go through your projects [TS]

01:54:20   and you very consciously say OK what are what are the physical actions that are then required to move this project [TS]

01:54:27   towards completion. [TS]

01:54:28   This is the point where if it was like the amount of work to run the system is becoming greater than the amount of work [TS]

01:54:35   I'm willing to do what we've just talked about the three ideas don't keep anything in your head have a project list [TS]

01:54:41   that is separate from the actions that need to be done like that. [TS]

01:54:46   That's basically the Getting Things Done system there do it but that's like the core. [TS]

01:54:50   Yeah the way I would try to describe it is that it is what you're trying to do is like separate times [TS]

01:54:58   when you are thinking about OK what are all the things that I need to get done OK how can I move this project forward [TS]

01:55:05   to completion while blah blah. [TS]

01:55:07   So what you have then is is [TS]

01:55:08   when you're actually working on a set of actions that you can just as close as possible just growing through [TS]

01:55:15   and just do like I already know what I need to do to move these projects forward like this is what I do every week I [TS]

01:55:22   sit down and I write down the next steps required to complete these projects. [TS]

01:55:25   And now my job is to just go through this list of things [TS]

01:55:30   and the key thing here is like the actions have to have a verb [TS]

01:55:34   and their needs like if you haven't written it down with a verb like you haven't really thought through what you need [TS]

01:55:39   to do to get this thing completed how many projects are on your current project based. [TS]

01:55:50   I can tell you the nerves that none the focus [TS]

01:55:54   and somewhere in here I'm actually curious look at those numbers those ticks I am currently I have. [TS]

01:56:00   Two hundred projects in my system. [TS]

01:56:02   OK now I know this is and I some of them are big [TS]

01:56:05   and some of the snow so that is going to ask you to get on average how many actions does each project have someplace. [TS]

01:56:14   Norman let me go to my normal little little projects here. There's one action associated with that two actions. [TS]

01:56:21   Three one four one three. Yes most of my little projects have like one to five things associated with them. [TS]

01:56:32   But something that's that's something like uploading your next video will have like twenty things in its checklist [TS]

01:56:36   and yeah making I can blow it up right now why. [TS]

01:56:41   But I mean that then they start to get the stuff that I feel like this is this is like professional work stuff like it [TS]

01:56:47   is not not a normal person's list anymore. [TS]

01:56:49   So yeah my checklist for a video from idea to finished product is seventy one items long. [TS]

01:56:59   And an enormous number of those are just tiny little things like the stuff I don't I don't mind mentioning is created [TS]

01:57:05   some nail for the video after the video has been uploaded make sure that the video looks OK on youtube because every [TS]

01:57:11   once in a while around your problem where the video [TS]

01:57:13   and the audio fall out of sync for some unknown reason why upload the video I want to turn off on Schiphol ads for the [TS]

01:57:19   first twenty four hours than I have to compose the email if that's going to go out. [TS]

01:57:24   There's all of these just little items [TS]

01:57:26   and it's actually quite easy to come up with seventy one tiny steps that need to happen if course I can imagine. [TS]

01:57:32   So you've got this you've got this project this would say two hundred things on there and then [TS]

01:57:38   and sort of hidden under that under the hood. All these subways. Well how often do you look at the project list. [TS]

01:57:45   What's the daily or weekly thing that when you wake up in the morning how do you know what you're doing. [TS]

01:57:49   This is the kind of key to the whole system is like you should not be looking at all of this all the time. [TS]

01:57:56   You will you will just be a crazy person if you like let me look at my two hundred things. [TS]

01:58:00   Yeah like a key point of the system is to only be able to see the things that you can actually do right now [TS]

01:58:08   and to back this up I will say the reason why getting things done made such a huge difference to me [TS]

01:58:14   and this is one of the things that I like. Now this doesn't work for me as well and a half restorations with it. [TS]

01:58:20   But if you magine you have a list of all your projects that you need to get done. [TS]

01:58:25   The idea is that you then have the fees where you put those actions for like moving those projects forward. [TS]

01:58:32   They should be lists that are limited to a particular place like OK. So let me describe the situation. [TS]

01:58:42   What changed my life was OK I'm going to write down all of my projects. [TS]

01:58:47   I'm in teacher training right now and instead of just having one big to do list that I'm constantly looking at [TS]

01:58:53   and feeling anxious about all the stuff that needs to get done. [TS]

01:58:56   Instead I'm only going to look at [TS]

01:58:59   when I am at university I will have a separate piece of paper which it used to be that just has the actions that I can [TS]

01:59:07   perform at university. Then I have a separate list which just has the actions I can perform. [TS]

01:59:14   When I go to my training school. OK yeah right. [TS]

01:59:18   And then I have a separate list which is all of the items I need for when I'm talking to my advisor [TS]

01:59:27   and I wouldn't have very many pieces of paper like that it was maybe four or five lists for the four [TS]

01:59:32   or five places that I was. Yeah that was life changing for me like that. That is what made the difference. [TS]

01:59:40   I can say that helps you in that situation. [TS]

01:59:42   I cannot say how that helps you know help me now because the list of things I can do [TS]

01:59:47   when I'm sitting at my computer in the morning with a blank canvas is seemingly infinite right now. [TS]

01:59:54   What's what does your of this look like. I'm sitting at my desk in my office today. Well let's save this. [TS]

02:00:00   As well I have a big list of notes [TS]

02:00:02   and this review that I keep I keep referencing of getting things done that I've I've been trying to write trying to [TS]

02:00:08   publish for a while because this is this has been my core frustration with the last several years of my life [TS]

02:00:15   and particularly since I've I've I've gone to You Tube is that I can do almost anything in my life from almost anywhere. [TS]

02:00:24   But I have basically no physical constraints. [TS]

02:00:28   I'm really aware that with my new bigger phone the very few things that I felt like oh well I can't do it if I just [TS]

02:00:34   have my phone it's like well guess what. Now the number of things I can't do on my phone is like three. [TS]

02:00:40   I can't record a podcast I can't animate a video and I can't do my taxes. [TS]

02:00:46   Thank you to specifically to suffer for my computer because like everything else in my life I can do [TS]

02:00:54   and that is where I have found that over the years the Getting Things Done system has been working less [TS]

02:00:59   and less well for me. And that's partly what I've talked about before on this pop cast of this. [TS]

02:01:04   This feeling of I used to live in a world where I had like a very large number of very small things that needed to be [TS]

02:01:11   done [TS]

02:01:12   and now I don't live in that world anymore like i everywhere I am I can potentially do all of the things that I need to [TS]

02:01:19   do. [TS]

02:01:20   And so I've been I've been kind of cobbling together and trying to do my own system with that [TS]

02:01:26   but I like getting things done was the perfect system for the perfect time in my life. [TS]

02:01:31   But if you if you read the original book like it is so clearly a book that is written before anybody is carrying [TS]

02:01:40   Internet connected cell phones with them all the time. Yeah. [TS]

02:01:43   He talks like about these you know these amazing things [TS]

02:01:46   but basically you're more often dealing with bits of paper in a basket on your desk. Yeah. [TS]

02:01:51   And it's one thing where reading the new edition I was keenly looking out for stuff that had been updated for the [TS]

02:01:58   modern digital world. [TS]

02:02:00   Old and my opinion is that he he blows past this fundamental problem [TS]

02:02:06   and kind of pretends as though you have been very many more of these places that you are limited by then is the truth. [TS]

02:02:14   Like in slang This is called a context like what is the context you are working in [TS]

02:02:21   and is like my whole life is one context cause I have a super phone in my pocket I can always do everything. [TS]

02:02:29   How are you getting around this problem. Because this seems like a big deal. [TS]

02:02:33   This is been like the central problem of my system for two years now [TS]

02:02:37   and this is kind of why I know you make you make fun of me for for changing stuff [TS]

02:02:42   but this is one of the reasons why I am kind of always experimented with stuff is I feel like oh I used to have the [TS]

02:02:48   system that worked well and I kind of lost it because the nature of my job and my work has changed so much. [TS]

02:02:55   If I was still a teacher to getting things done things system would work great because that's still a world of like [TS]

02:03:01   limits and offices and paper and like everything would be fine. [TS]

02:03:06   But that's that's not where I am now and you can't do it. [TS]

02:03:09   I mean I'm not suggesting you throw your i Phone and the like but could you could you not to artificially. [TS]

02:03:14   Could you like could she because it kept you so much signer [TS]

02:03:18   and happy could you not create these contacts artificially [TS]

02:03:21   and just have like golden rules like whatever I am you know in my desk I mean context ironic where making videos [TS]

02:03:30   and sending emails is an option and whenever I'm at Starbucks that's when I'm allowed to do B. [TS]

02:03:36   and Say I'm going to you know you could just create these things. [TS]

02:03:40   Frankly that is precisely the kind of stuff that I tried to do. [TS]

02:03:46   But [TS]

02:03:46   but of course it's having a genuine hard boundaries that is something that you cannot break versus a soft boundary that [TS]

02:03:57   you're trying to create for yourself. It doesn't. [TS]

02:04:00   Work very well and it needs a lot and then you are going to have to very fine [TS]

02:04:02   and like there are some tricks that I definitely do to try and influence like to try and set for myself hard limits. [TS]

02:04:10   But there's a lot of really interesting cognitive science that talks about the limits [TS]

02:04:14   and the drain on mental capacity when you're when you're doing that kind of thing. [TS]

02:04:19   It's it's the old like yeah in theory you can die in your house with ice cream everywhere and just not eat it [TS]

02:04:27   but you can actually see it like this even if someone is successfully able to do that to go on a diet [TS]

02:04:32   and not eat the ice cream it's in the refrigerator you can measure how their cognitive performance is limited in all [TS]

02:04:38   kinds of other ways because some part of their brain is reserved to the don't eat ice cream part even if you think like [TS]

02:04:46   oh look at me I'm like I'm so great I don't have to eat ice cream it's like yeah [TS]

02:04:49   but if we start having you do test the mental math like you do worse than someone in the exact same position who just [TS]

02:04:55   doesn't have ice cream in the house or I stop saying or asking you making me hungry. [TS]

02:05:00   But the reason I'm bringing that up as an example so there are lots of things that I try to do [TS]

02:05:05   but like this this has been the fundamental problem for me and I have found ways that are helpful [TS]

02:05:14   but I feel like I haven't had a really rock solid system in really since I became self-employed. [TS]

02:05:20   Sasa the time is right for a new book you just sweep isn't to be the next. [TS]

02:05:24   DAVID Oh yeah if I can I can figure it out all right you've actually got to figure it out first and that's the problem. [TS]

02:05:32   But once I figured out that I can start my own cult. [TS]