00:00:00 ◼ ► In the last episode you put that bit of sort of like made up bonus footage at the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/0">TS</a>]
00:00:06 ◼ ► and I think you put that like you know put it in because it like Justified you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6">TS</a>]
00:00:11 ◼ ► but I think it justified maybe like it vindicated my memory and you think it vindicated your memory. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/11">TS</a>]
00:00:16 ◼ ► I put that that little that little audio clip at the end the end to vindicate me. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/16">TS</a>]
00:00:22 ◼ ► However there was a problem when I exploited it that it did not include your audio. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/22">TS</a>]
00:00:30 ◼ ► and if you only listen to my side of the conversation it definitely sounded like you were right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/30">TS</a>]
00:00:36 ◼ ► But trust me people I was right. I'm not working. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/36">TS</a>]
00:00:44 ◼ ► I'm sending this evidence your honor and it actually makes my client look guilty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/44">TS</a>]
00:00:48 ◼ ► but trust me it makes him look not guilty we have very little follow up before we get to the business of penguins [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/48">TS</a>]
00:00:56 ◼ ► and politics which I think are going to dominate this podcast. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/56">TS</a>]
00:00:59 ◼ ► Yes we talked about a moment she and my ignorance of a mochi and to sort of set the record straight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/59">TS</a>]
00:01:06 ◼ ► and help me better understand how Moji works rather embarrassingly. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/66">TS</a>]
00:01:10 ◼ ► Everyone has been pointing out a video on the computer file Chano which of course is my channel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/70">TS</a>]
00:01:16 ◼ ► but I must hasten to point out I did not make all the videos in fact I make hardly any of the videos on there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/76">TS</a>]
00:01:23 ◼ ► and I do not watch all of the videos on there. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/83">TS</a>]
00:01:26 ◼ ► It's run by my friend Sean and he made a video with Tom Scott all about M O G which I had watched some of to be fair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/86">TS</a>]
00:01:33 ◼ ► but kind of had forgotten bits of it so never mind saying Brady How can you not know this you've got a whole video that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/93">TS</a>]
00:01:38 ◼ ► you made about I have not made a video about a video was made about on my channel but not by me. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/98">TS</a>]
00:01:47 ◼ ► So it is a bit awkward and embarrassing but it's not like I made the video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/107">TS</a>]
00:01:51 ◼ ► and then forgot all the stuff to be fair though you could not possibly be expected to remember everything that has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/111">TS</a>]
00:01:58 ◼ ► happened in all of the videos that you have made. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/118">TS</a>]
00:02:00 ◼ ► How many topics have you covered for which you retained no knowledge now. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/120">TS</a>]
00:02:05 ◼ ► I mean it must be it must be hundreds of topics. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/125">TS</a>]
00:02:08 ◼ ► I guess it would have gotten to the point now where there are videos I completely have forgotten nation having made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/128">TS</a>]
00:02:13 ◼ ► but I will also say that I am sometimes caught out slightly embarrassed in conversations for the same phenomenon where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/133">TS</a>]
00:02:21 ◼ ► someone is asking me about a detail of something in my video and of course I have made vastly fewer videos than you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/141">TS</a>]
00:02:27 ◼ ► and I find that my brain almost just dumps a huge amount of the knowledge I have acquired once the video making process [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/147">TS</a>]
00:02:35 ◼ ► is over and so I am reeling in aware of how if I'm ever thinking about linking back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/155">TS</a>]
00:02:41 ◼ ► or vaguely referencing one of my videos I will have to watch that video again because I can't remember all the stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/161">TS</a>]
00:02:47 ◼ ► that I researched about it like. But to pull one out of the air. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/167">TS</a>]
00:02:51 ◼ ► I remember putting together a video about how the primary election system works in the United States [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/171">TS</a>]
00:02:55 ◼ ► and I remember being very interested in that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/175">TS</a>]
00:02:57 ◼ ► And today I couldn't hide confidently tell you very much about the details of how that works. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/177">TS</a>]
00:03:02 ◼ ► I would I would need to reference my own video even though I made it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/182">TS</a>]
00:03:05 ◼ ► So these things can slip through the mind even if you do create them. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/185">TS</a>]
00:03:09 ◼ ► The thing is even worse is actually still haven't gone back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/189">TS</a>]
00:03:11 ◼ ► and watched Oh I was going to thinking are you about to enlighten me on a process by which emoji are selected. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/191">TS</a>]
00:03:17 ◼ ► I'm just going to recommend a fantastic computer file video featuring the brilliant I'm so it was a really good video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/197">TS</a>]
00:03:24 ◼ ► has been has been a good one is a good one. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/204">TS</a>]
00:03:26 ◼ ► Tom is very good you know I gather a lot of good ones but I still haven't gone back and watched it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/206">TS</a>]
00:03:30 ◼ ► But speaking of You Tube We only have one more follow up on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/210">TS</a>]
00:03:33 ◼ ► and here I think this is this isn't even really a follow up item. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/213">TS</a>]
00:03:37 ◼ ► We basically have a tiny segment now which is called half hour so we can have a segment that I can't pronounce grey you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/217">TS</a>]
00:03:44 ◼ ► just make me look bad everywhere like half the raid half assed or a perfect perfect break don't don't overthink it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/224">TS</a>]
00:03:52 ◼ ► You're doing great. This isn't exactly half ass are you so much as just as just like a complaint that I want to. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/232">TS</a>]
00:04:00 ◼ ► Only lodge with You Tube and it is there. I'm not exactly sure how new it is but it is there. Auto play feature now. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/240">TS</a>]
00:04:08 ◼ ► Are you familiar with this new auto play feature on photo play was really on hold and then it went away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/248">TS</a>]
00:04:13 ◼ ► and hasn't come back. Just different to what I'm thinking of you going to have to help me here. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/253">TS</a>]
00:04:17 ◼ ► OK so what they have had for a long time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/257">TS</a>]
00:04:20 ◼ ► and what I believe they used to call auto play was if you link to a video that is in a playlist the You Tube will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/260">TS</a>]
00:04:28 ◼ ► automatically play the next video in that playlist but it feels like within the past six weeks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/268">TS</a>]
00:04:34 ◼ ► or so if someone sends you a youtube video and they say oh here watch you know watch this this funny cat video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/274">TS</a>]
00:04:40 ◼ ► when you click on the link right and there's a cat doing something funny for ten seconds. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/280">TS</a>]
00:04:44 ◼ ► The instant that video is over youtube automatically starts playing another video then like if you like a ten second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/284">TS</a>]
00:04:52 ◼ ► countdown or something but it's really hard to figure out where to click. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/292">TS</a>]
00:04:55 ◼ ► There's a little dial on the screen that counts down from five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/295">TS</a>]
00:04:58 ◼ ► or maybe it counts down from one I don't know whatever it is it seems to go by so fast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/298">TS</a>]
00:05:02 ◼ ► and it's really hard to figure out what to click to stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/302">TS</a>]
00:05:05 ◼ ► and I know that I have done it wrong almost every time because I think that the center of the circle has a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/305">TS</a>]
00:05:11 ◼ ► triangle which is like play like oh do you want to skip this countdown [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/311">TS</a>]
00:05:14 ◼ ► and just immediately I know I've messed it up many times trying to not play the next video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/314">TS</a>]
00:05:19 ◼ ► and I always end up playing it anyway but I find this feature just. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/319">TS</a>]
00:05:24 ◼ ► So anti user is the best way to put it or the user hostile. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/324">TS</a>]
00:05:33 ◼ ► and say oh you know what I would love I would love every time I went to a youtube video it also showed me a random [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/333">TS</a>]
00:05:39 ◼ ► youtube video that I did not request. Nobody would nobody would want this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/339">TS</a>]
00:05:44 ◼ ► There is one person who may request you because if someone has just watched to see a G.P. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/344">TS</a>]
00:05:50 ◼ ► Gray video I think it's more likely than not the recommended next video will be another C.D.P. Gravity. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/350">TS</a>]
00:05:57 ◼ ► So actually if anyone benefits from. It's you and me. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/357">TS</a>]
00:06:04 ◼ ► I don't I don't think it is because as far as I can tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/364">TS</a>]
00:06:07 ◼ ► when I have occasionally watched You Tube videos that have been produced by any of the people in our circle who make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/367">TS</a>]
00:06:15 ◼ ► educational videos the next video just seems to be random. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/375">TS</a>]
00:06:19 ◼ ► OK it's not like if I watch a smarter every day video the next one is a smarter every day videos Well it's it's bizarre. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/379">TS</a>]
00:06:28 ◼ ► And they're using their you know who they're who knows whatever it is they're magic algorithm to select a video out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/388">TS</a>]
00:06:37 ◼ ► It's just such a hostile system and I know what You Tube is doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/397">TS</a>]
00:06:42 ◼ ► and the only reason that something like this happens is I have to imagine a bunch of. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/402">TS</a>]
00:06:48 ◼ ► and You Tube sitting around smoking their cigars right in a dimly lit evil looking meeting room saying we need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/408">TS</a>]
00:06:55 ◼ ► inflate view numbers for advertisers so we can make more money how can we best do this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/415">TS</a>]
00:06:59 ◼ ► I know let's make sure to randomly start playing videos at every possible opportunity and I will use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/419">TS</a>]
00:07:08 ◼ ► but it will definitely at least double our view numbers which will also double our revenue. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/428">TS</a>]
00:07:11 ◼ ► When I think of this feature that's how I imagine this went down in a meeting like I would love to hear from You Tube [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/431">TS</a>]
00:07:19 ◼ ► Tell Me You Tube What do you think is the benefit to users of this feature. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/439">TS</a>]
00:07:24 ◼ ► I can't I have a very hard time imagining a convincing argument for the whole of course I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/444">TS</a>]
00:07:29 ◼ ► and I can imagine what that's how say oh it's helping them discover new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/449">TS</a>]
00:07:33 ◼ ► and amazing content they would never have otherwise have found. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/453">TS</a>]
00:07:36 ◼ ► We are using a clever algorithm to navigate them through the jungle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/456">TS</a>]
00:07:40 ◼ ► and help them find the best possible content I can easily imagine what that lame answer will be. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/460">TS</a>]
00:07:46 ◼ ► I'm sure that's what they would say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/466">TS</a>]
00:07:48 ◼ ► but their mouth would just be smelling like that's all it would be like oh God Can you please turn away. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/468">TS</a>]
00:07:55 ◼ ► Don't talk to me directly when you're saying I must leave unsaid. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/475">TS</a>]
00:08:00 ◼ ► Because it is dirty it's a lie it's a lie that you tell yourself and that you tell others. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/480">TS</a>]
00:08:05 ◼ ► Netflix are the masters of this I mean you need it you need a degree in computer science [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/485">TS</a>]
00:08:10 ◼ ► and the reflexes of a judge to avoid the next film or the next T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/490">TS</a>]
00:08:15 ◼ ► Show starting at the end of a show like because the screen shrinks and I say this is going to start in ten seconds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/495">TS</a>]
00:08:21 ◼ ► and you're like you've got your little Apple Remote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/501">TS</a>]
00:08:24 ◼ ► or your computer going oh we don't like which which button do I click in my head away. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/504">TS</a>]
00:08:28 ◼ ► How do I stop it from the next one's already started. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/508">TS</a>]
00:08:32 ◼ ► It's very funny it's very funny that you mention this because I was actually going to use Netflix as the counterfactual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/512">TS</a>]
00:08:37 ◼ ► to this we have recently signed up with Netflix and we've been using it a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/517">TS</a>]
00:08:42 ◼ ► and I actually really like their auto play feature when you're binge watching television of course right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/522">TS</a>]
00:08:50 ◼ ► I think that like that is nice that is exactly what I want to say hey guess what Netflix you are right I do want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/530">TS</a>]
00:08:56 ◼ ► watch the next episode of daredevil please just keep it playing on the screen like let's let's let's work our way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/536">TS</a>]
00:09:02 ◼ ► I don't watch movies very often on Netflix so I don't know do they start playing a random movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/542">TS</a>]
00:09:09 ◼ ► when your movie ends I don't think they do. I'm applying more to T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/549">TS</a>]
00:09:12 ◼ ► As well like when I'm watching something like at the moment we're watching The Good Wife [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/552">TS</a>]
00:09:17 ◼ ► and you always get the next one straight away and I'm going to quote you back to you. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/557">TS</a>]
00:09:22 ◼ ► I remember you talking about Kendall's I think it was and finishing a book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/562">TS</a>]
00:09:28 ◼ ► and saying Can I just have a few seconds to just absorb what happened and think about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/568">TS</a>]
00:09:32 ◼ ► and not have another book like recommended to me immediately. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/572">TS</a>]
00:09:36 ◼ ► Often that's not Netflix at the end of an episode of a show when something's just happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/576">TS</a>]
00:09:40 ◼ ► and you've had a finale I feel like I want just a few seconds to absorb or maybe turn to my wife [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/580">TS</a>]
00:09:45 ◼ ► and talk about what just happened not not be sort of panicking trying to think oh no how can I stop the next one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/585">TS</a>]
00:09:51 ◼ ► starting I don't want to say I don't want to catch the first few seconds of the next one because it might spoil [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/591">TS</a>]
00:09:55 ◼ ► something or ruin the moment bike and I can't believe you don't think that I can't believe. You don't think. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/595">TS</a>]
00:10:01 ◼ ► Hang on guys just give me a second. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/601">TS</a>]
00:10:02 ◼ ► Well at least let me make a simple command to say let's have the next episode done to shove it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/602">TS</a>]
00:10:08 ◼ ► and they don't throw it at me before I've had time. Yeah I'm realizing actually lasts. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/608">TS</a>]
00:10:14 ◼ ► Yes Last night we did watch in my house a movie on Netflix and it did not auto recommend another movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/614">TS</a>]
00:10:21 ◼ ► and I would completely feel that way of hey guys give me a second. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/621">TS</a>]
00:10:28 ◼ ► and I need a little time to just recover to grieve if you can't you can't start playing Legally Blonde right away it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/628">TS</a>]
00:10:35 ◼ ► just too much it's too much of a tone shift. They don't do with movies but with T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/635">TS</a>]
00:10:41 ◼ ► and Particularly I feel that a lot of the Netflix T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/641">TS</a>]
00:10:44 ◼ ► Is designed to be watched right in a row so I don't I don't have that feeling at the end of an individual television [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/644">TS</a>]
00:10:51 ◼ ► episode. Usually at the end of a T.V. Episode my exact thought is I need the next one. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/651">TS</a>]
00:10:55 ◼ ► Right now I'm not saying don't make it easy to watch the next one. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/655">TS</a>]
00:11:00 ◼ ► I'm just saying don't make it almost compulsory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/660">TS</a>]
00:11:03 ◼ ► and difficult to avoid because like the guy always has a quick stop at stop before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/663">TS</a>]
00:11:09 ◼ ► and I'm like oh I don't know what the facts would have started before I figured out how to work my Apple Remote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/669">TS</a>]
00:11:15 ◼ ► and the wrong angle for the infra red and I know the next one's already started and like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/675">TS</a>]
00:11:23 ◼ ► Every everything about this to me is really funny because one I love the notion of the technological problem as being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/683">TS</a>]
00:11:29 ◼ ► fifty percent of the problem in your house. T.V. Set ups like actual physical T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/689">TS</a>]
00:11:34 ◼ ► Set ups are always very difficult about which remote and what the input and how to do this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/694">TS</a>]
00:11:38 ◼ ► and I don't live my life like that where I'm almost always watching Netflix just on an i Pad with my headphones in so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/698">TS</a>]
00:11:44 ◼ ► can just reach out with my hand and exactly press the button that I want and there's none of this remote nonsense. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/704">TS</a>]
00:11:49 ◼ ► Or when my wife and I watch T.V. We don't actually watch it on a T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/709">TS</a>]
00:11:53 ◼ ► We just have and i mac that functions as a television so it's just a big computer but you want to have remotes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/713">TS</a>]
00:11:58 ◼ ► and yes there's going to be panicking. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/718">TS</a>]
00:12:00 ◼ ► Problem some things are going to go all wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/720">TS</a>]
00:12:02 ◼ ► and it seems like maybe you are more susceptible than that to most people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/722">TS</a>]
00:12:05 ◼ ► but I don't think Netflix are as evil as the way you should be doing it but I still think they haven't nailed it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/725">TS</a>]
00:12:12 ◼ ► and I think you're being too kind on them I would say that the Netflix feature can be genuinely customer centric [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/732">TS</a>]
00:12:21 ◼ ► and you know that it is because they don't have ad numbers that they are potentially trying to inflate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/741">TS</a>]
00:12:28 ◼ ► and as far as I can tell they are always showing you the next thing in a sequential series as opposed to You Tube which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/748">TS</a>]
00:12:36 ◼ ► almost certainly is just trying to inflate ad numbers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/756">TS</a>]
00:12:39 ◼ ► and as we have discussed many times has no concept of serial content no concept at all just two other minor points [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/759">TS</a>]
00:12:47 ◼ ► about why we are all we are talking about this that I just want to mention which when I originally set up my R.S.S. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/767">TS</a>]
00:12:54 ◼ ► Subscription so that people could use R.S.S. To get my videos. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/774">TS</a>]
00:12:58 ◼ ► I had a huge number of people say Oh but don't you know on your youtube channel there's a there's an R.S.S. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/778">TS</a>]
00:13:03 ◼ ► Feed that people can sign up for so they can be notified of of when you have a new video up. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/783">TS</a>]
00:13:09 ◼ ► And since we know that You Tube seems to be changing the way that their business works. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/789">TS</a>]
00:13:14 ◼ ► One of the things they have now done is they have taken away the built in R.S.S. Feeds. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/794">TS</a>]
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00:17:13 ◼ ► Rood We finally had a long awaited Star Wars penguin Bristol Zoo David Prowse mate. Hello Internet. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/1033">TS</a>]
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00:18:48 ◼ ► feel good or did you actually want a photo of it I would never Uma you in such a way. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/1128">TS</a>]
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00:22:43 ◼ ► Gray and that is not something you will find until it has its six monthly health check when they take a sample [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/1363">TS</a>]
00:22:50 ◼ ► and send it off they don't lift up the Fed doesn't have a look. They do it with science. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/1370">TS</a>]
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00:25:25 ◼ ► Do you feel any kind of attachment or bond lucky you know curious about sort of this penguin's future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/1525">TS</a>]
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00:25:45 ◼ ► For nonsensical reasons I do feel like I hope that penguin turns out OK I hope he has a great life in the zoo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/1545">TS</a>]
00:25:52 ◼ ► or in South Africa if they really reintroduce them into the wild. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/1552">TS</a>]
00:25:55 ◼ ► I don't know if they do that I don't I don't think that will happen to that Penguin it could get transferred to an. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/1555">TS</a>]
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00:26:05 ◼ ► I feel like the bigger the penguin would vastly prefer the easy zoo life then living in South Africa. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/1565">TS</a>]
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00:26:24 ◼ ► and do extra updates for the patron supporters so if you follow how the Internet unpatriotic you will occasionally get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/1584">TS</a>]
00:26:32 ◼ ► like an extra high respect cheer and lack health updates and stuff. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/1592">TS</a>]
00:26:38 ◼ ► Maybe because I think only those people are kind of interested enough to be subjected to such minutiae of their life I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/1598">TS</a>]
00:26:44 ◼ ► think that is an excellent excellent thing to put on the Patriots. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/1604">TS</a>]
00:26:46 ◼ ► I was more I was more flattered than I expected to be and I was and it was a very nice if quite surprising and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/1606">TS</a>]
00:26:54 ◼ ► and slightly derailing for a few moments thing to have done to me so thank you very much for that Brady [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/1614">TS</a>]
00:26:59 ◼ ► and of course thank you to the zoo for doing it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/1619">TS</a>]
00:27:02 ◼ ► Did you have to tell your family that OK so I did tell my my family about it and particularly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/1622">TS</a>]
00:27:09 ◼ ► when I was telling my parents the very first question out of their mouth was why didn't Brady get a penguin. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/1629">TS</a>]
00:27:20 ◼ ► Well I'll tell you why I am more than happy for you to have the penguin because I find that far more amusing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/1640">TS</a>]
00:27:27 ◼ ► but I will say something that happened later on and ruin the chronology of the day. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/1647">TS</a>]
00:27:30 ◼ ► Because later in the day the zoo actually did spring a surprise back on me and it wasn't that I've named a line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/1650">TS</a>]
00:27:38 ◼ ► but what they do do is they do have a very limited number of animals that people can adopt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/1658">TS</a>]
00:27:44 ◼ ► and for example in the penguin enclosure there's one penguin that everyone adopts. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/1664">TS</a>]
00:27:48 ◼ ► I think it's called something like Poly or something of that Polly the penguin that they made a special exception [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/1668">TS</a>]
00:27:54 ◼ ► and they have made me the official adopter of C.D.P. Gray the penguin. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/1674">TS</a>]
00:28:00 ◼ ► And actually that I have this in front of me here it's in a box [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/1680">TS</a>]
00:28:05 ◼ ► and I can see it's not even I haven't adoptions to figure out which which I'm holding in front of me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/1685">TS</a>]
00:28:11 ◼ ► and will all put a scan on the you know notes and stuff. Certificate of adoption. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/1691">TS</a>]
00:28:16 ◼ ► This is to certify that Brady Haran has adopted C.G. B. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/1696">TS</a>]
00:28:20 ◼ ► Grade the Penguin and the parental responsibility has had all these birth certificates [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/1700">TS</a>]
00:28:26 ◼ ► and it's really like official looking document. It's really nice. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/1706">TS</a>]
00:28:31 ◼ ► It's somewhere between a real birth certificate and having a Cabbage Patch Kid. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/1711">TS</a>]
00:28:36 ◼ ► But anyway that's fantastic so I was not left out. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/1716">TS</a>]
00:28:39 ◼ ► You may have a penguin but I kind of have I have a daughter I have the adoption of you say everyone was a winner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/1719">TS</a>]
00:28:46 ◼ ► and everyone came away with a little certificate I will keep mine and probably display it in some way. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/1726">TS</a>]
00:28:51 ◼ ► What Grey would do with his. Well you know who knows who knows if he even still has it but I'm sure he does. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/1731">TS</a>]
00:28:59 ◼ ► I'm sure I'm sure even robot grey couldn't throw that one in the trash. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/1739">TS</a>]
00:29:03 ◼ ► It is in my wife's handbag as we speak how she's going to carry everywhere shooting like maybe that's the plan I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/1743">TS</a>]
00:29:10 ◼ ► know maybe no Anyway you're out. Anyway it was it was a really fun little moment it was really good with an O.L. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/1750">TS</a>]
00:29:16 ◼ ► I cannot tell you how beautiful the weather was with him when into the penguin enclosure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/1756">TS</a>]
00:29:20 ◼ ► and went to like the public talk and like enough a zoo keeper came out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/1760">TS</a>]
00:29:24 ◼ ► and like to talk to everyone about penguins while they were feeding them fish and stuff like that. C.D.P. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/1764">TS</a>]
00:29:29 ◼ ► Gray was just hiding in the corner with his mom order that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/1769">TS</a>]
00:29:33 ◼ ► or she did not partake of the fish because Grace too young for that sort of thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/1773">TS</a>]
00:29:37 ◼ ► but all the other penguins were just freaking out and eating tons and tons of fish. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/1777">TS</a>]
00:29:41 ◼ ► I do have to say that is the moment that I felt the closest to C.D.P. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/1781">TS</a>]
00:29:45 ◼ ► Gray the penguin was when there was a huge huge amount of activity and hustle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/1785">TS</a>]
00:29:49 ◼ ► and bustle going on in this penguin arena [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/1789">TS</a>]
00:29:53 ◼ ► and here she decided that the corner was the best place to be the corner behind a bush. Basically by himself. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/1793">TS</a>]
00:30:02 ◼ ► Slate A slate if we're going to be honest the C.D.P. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/1802">TS</a>]
00:30:05 ◼ ► Grey was sleeping out and there was a moment when the zookeeper sort of said oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/1805">TS</a>]
00:30:11 ◼ ► and by the way thank you to have the internet for coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/1811">TS</a>]
00:30:13 ◼ ► and your support for the penguins like she'd obviously been told to say this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/1813">TS</a>]
00:30:17 ◼ ► and clearly had no idea what I would say it was the most robotic. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/1817">TS</a>]
00:30:21 ◼ ► Thank you but it was really funny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/1821">TS</a>]
00:30:23 ◼ ► and yet I felt strangely proud like I was like oh wow like we are real thing now because a zoo keeper sent us to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/1823">TS</a>]
00:30:29 ◼ ► crowd of people and this was all this was all you are doing great now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/1829">TS</a>]
00:30:34 ◼ ► and I had never really was that whole this whole thing together I mean the day you you made the day happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/1834">TS</a>]
00:30:39 ◼ ► and loathe you should you should take part of this is a magazine you did all the organizing are just part of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/1839">TS</a>]
00:30:43 ◼ ► instructions and gave a few tips and said it will be funny if you named a penguin after Grey and stuff like that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/1843">TS</a>]
00:30:48 ◼ ► It was Abby from the zoo who did all the actual work saying thank you to her. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/1848">TS</a>]
00:30:52 ◼ ► So anyway now all of this time by the way not only will be joined by thirty to forty hello internet listeners we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/1852">TS</a>]
00:30:59 ◼ ► joined by David Prowse so he wasn't just going to sworn in at the end he actually came in listen to the talks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/1859">TS</a>]
00:31:06 ◼ ► and was I was hanging out with us. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/1866">TS</a>]
00:31:08 ◼ ► It was great I got a chance to to shake the hand of a man who has crushed many people's throats through telekinesis. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/1868">TS</a>]
00:31:16 ◼ ► It was quite the honor it was good. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/1876">TS</a>]
00:31:18 ◼ ► So from the from the in the penguin enclosure although it was a beautiful day we did put all kind of nerdy people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/1878">TS</a>]
00:31:25 ◼ ► and went inside to watch videos. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/1885">TS</a>]
00:31:28 ◼ ► It's honestly that did feel like the most perfect moment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/1888">TS</a>]
00:31:32 ◼ ► or as they look at the beautiful day we're going to go inside and watch a movie. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/1892">TS</a>]
00:31:36 ◼ ► So we we went into a little nice little sort of Education Center I have to say with that set up a little makeshift [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/1896">TS</a>]
00:31:45 ◼ ► We were given some biscuits and some tea and we hung out a bit and then we all took S.A.T.'s [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/1905">TS</a>]
00:31:50 ◼ ► and it was time to watch it was time to watch Star Wars Episode four A New Hope with the IN THE AUDIENCE Yes. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/1910">TS</a>]
00:32:00 ◼ ► Special time was and it was a very special time. It was a very special time. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/1920">TS</a>]
00:32:06 ◼ ► Now I want to I want to say something about this film. We're watching Star Wars. We're sitting down the lights are off. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/1926">TS</a>]
00:32:15 ◼ ► The movie begins and the way this works is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/1935">TS</a>]
00:32:21 ◼ ► when we were talking about originally we were going to be watching Star Wars one of my initial concerns was which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/1941">TS</a>]
00:32:27 ◼ ► version of Star Wars are we going to watch it is you just going to handle this how is this going to work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/1947">TS</a>]
00:32:31 ◼ ► and I wanted to make sure that we watched a version that I may have. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/1951">TS</a>]
00:32:37 ◼ ► OK I'm not going to die a virgin I do have which is the Star Wars de specialized editions. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/1957">TS</a>]
00:32:45 ◼ ► So for people who may be unaware that the specialized editions are this kind of amazing amazing piece of work where I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/1965">TS</a>]
00:32:54 ◼ ► think the team of people have gone through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/1974">TS</a>]
00:32:57 ◼ ► and done their best to collect as much of the original footage that has been made available from Lucas film from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/1977">TS</a>]
00:33:09 ◼ ► Correct for the colors and clean it up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/1989">TS</a>]
00:33:12 ◼ ► but also take out all of the George Lucas special edition nonsense stuff that was added in the late ninety's I think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/1992">TS</a>]
00:33:19 ◼ ► was a Special Edition and On hundred percent sure. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/1999">TS</a>]
00:33:20 ◼ ► Well there are a few different special editions where it was kind of the meddling was kind of done in stages. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2000">TS</a>]
00:33:26 ◼ ► That was yeah that was one of the things as well there are several versions of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2006">TS</a>]
00:33:29 ◼ ► but I don't I don't I don't know exactly who is behind this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2009">TS</a>]
00:33:33 ◼ ► but I can tell you that if I was if I was in charge of the government I would give the people who have done those D. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2013">TS</a>]
00:33:40 ◼ ► Specialize editions a medal of cultural preservation of the highest order. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2020">TS</a>]
00:33:47 ◼ ► It's an amazing it's an amazing piece of work to see the only thing that's a little bit weird about watching them is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2027">TS</a>]
00:33:54 ◼ ► that the resolution sometimes flips a bit from kind of low resolution footage to you. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2034">TS</a>]
00:34:00 ◼ ► High resolution footage if they weren't able to get a couple of shots in high resolution because the only high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2040">TS</a>]
00:34:06 ◼ ► resolution versions available are ones with specialized crap all over them. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2046">TS</a>]
00:34:11 ◼ ► So the way this worked is we discussed it well OK obviously we have to watch the dispenser [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2051">TS</a>]
00:34:15 ◼ ► but these specialized editions so in my defense a gray You didn't even have to tell me this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2055">TS</a>]
00:34:20 ◼ ► I basically came to you and said This is what we're going to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2060">TS</a>]
00:34:23 ◼ ► and you were like of course you were like I felt like you were a bit proud of me like I said we're going to we're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2063">TS</a>]
00:34:29 ◼ ► to go fifty specialized family I had already thought about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2069">TS</a>]
00:34:32 ◼ ► and taken the bull by the horns I had already discussed this with you. Like I was I was all over this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2072">TS</a>]
00:34:38 ◼ ► I didn't need to be told this to either of the two of us I would probably say that you are the bigger Star Wars fan I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2078">TS</a>]
00:34:45 ◼ ► think if you could rank Star Wars itude you would be higher on this than I am. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2085">TS</a>]
00:34:51 ◼ ► And we discussed this many times I think it's because you're like you are slightly older than I am I never did you did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2091">TS</a>]
00:34:57 ◼ ► you see them in the theaters or not I don't remember I saw the only one I saw in the theater was Return of the jet. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2097">TS</a>]
00:35:02 ◼ ► OK they have that would make sense. Yeah I never saw any of them in the theater I only ever saw them on on V.H.S. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2102">TS</a>]
00:35:07 ◼ ► As a kid yet. So but anyway. Anyway this is this is all to the side so I had to given you the D. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2107">TS</a>]
00:35:16 ◼ ► and then you specialized isn't too busy we need to get you to actually give it to me quite a long time ago like almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2116">TS</a>]
00:35:23 ◼ ► a year ago. Yeah whatever whenever we first started talking about this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2123">TS</a>]
00:35:29 ◼ ► and then I think the day before the zoo I gave it to you again just to make sure I was like oh my God we got to watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2129">TS</a>]
00:35:35 ◼ ► the specialized addition you send to me again but I said Don't worry I've already give it to them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2135">TS</a>]
00:35:39 ◼ ► but I sent it to them I said this is the one to show they said it will have a daily days back up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2139">TS</a>]
00:35:44 ◼ ► and I said Don't worry this is the one to show and I had electronically sent to them. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2144">TS</a>]
00:35:49 ◼ ► I said make sure this works played up on the big screen first if there's a problem that we know will bring on a year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2149">TS</a>]
00:35:54 ◼ ► especially you know this is a very particular version we want to show and I would I would say I did. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2154">TS</a>]
00:36:01 ◼ ► or would you say I'm absolutely sure the zookeepers are like OK nerds like you don't know why you're being so picky [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2161">TS</a>]
00:36:09 ◼ ► about this but whatever guys. Yeah but this is basically the nerd equivalent of like there can be no green M. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2169">TS</a>]
00:36:14 ◼ ► and M's in R M N M Bolduc it has to be this exact but you know you guys yet. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2174">TS</a>]
00:36:20 ◼ ► when we start to watch the movie suddenly there is a moment where there are stormtroopers writing dinosaurs basically I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2180">TS</a>]
00:36:35 ◼ ► but I was I was I was confused because I thought wait it's been a long time since I watched that the specialized [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2195">TS</a>]
00:36:39 ◼ ► addition where there are some shots that they just couldn't get any They couldn't get clear versions of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2199">TS</a>]
00:36:45 ◼ ► and so were there a couple the shots with specialized stuff and if I had to destroy their arms in the air [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2205">TS</a>]
00:36:49 ◼ ► and say we can't save that one or something yeah. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2209">TS</a>]
00:36:51 ◼ ► So and as the movie is going on I'm kind of getting more and more confused [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2211">TS</a>]
00:36:56 ◼ ► and I'm seeing stuff from the specialized addition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2216">TS</a>]
00:36:58 ◼ ► but there's also a couple of shots where I'm thinking no I know that one Lucas put extra crap in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2218">TS</a>]
00:37:06 ◼ ► So do I just badly remember the do you specialize edition I basically was having a kind of anxiety attack in the back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2226">TS</a>]
00:37:11 ◼ ► of the movie theater trying to think about what what possibly happened. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2231">TS</a>]
00:37:17 ◼ ► Am I just misremembering I thought the specialisation was the greatest thing that humanity has ever produced. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2237">TS</a>]
00:37:23 ◼ ► You were giving out medals a minute ago. I know and then I was like do I just do I does not remember it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2243">TS</a>]
00:37:28 ◼ ► In particular there's a thing like there's one shot where R two D two is hiding in a cave and I know for a fact C.G.I. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2248">TS</a>]
00:37:34 ◼ ► Rocks were put all in front of him in a way that makes no sense. But that wasn't in this version. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2254">TS</a>]
00:37:39 ◼ ► So I was like losing my mind and I thought oh my god I can't I don't know what's happening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2259">TS</a>]
00:37:43 ◼ ► but as it was going on it became more and more clear especially when a dinosaur walks in front of the screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2263">TS</a>]
00:37:50 ◼ ► and literally blocks out the entire frame for a couple of seconds I was like OK No this is definitely the special [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2270">TS</a>]
00:37:57 ◼ ► edition. Yeah. A special edition. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2277">TS</a>]
00:38:00 ◼ ► It's a special edition and if I don't know how this happened and I thought I gave I gave Brady the file [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2280">TS</a>]
00:38:06 ◼ ► and I know great like Brady passes on I thought oh my God I have made a terrible mistake like well you know what did I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2286">TS</a>]
00:38:14 ◼ ► And I'm trying to pull out my phone and look on Dropbox to see like which version of the file that I give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2294">TS</a>]
00:38:18 ◼ ► but you live on like the outer rim planet so you have no cell phone connection anywhere in that whole town as far as I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2298">TS</a>]
00:38:25 ◼ ► can tell which is a slightly other complaint of mine. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2305">TS</a>]
00:38:28 ◼ ► But so I couldn't get Dropbox and I was freaking out I was I just couldn't believe it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2308">TS</a>]
00:38:32 ◼ ► and then we get to the scene where Han Solo is talking to just C.G.I. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2312">TS</a>]
00:38:38 ◼ ► Job at the Hyatt and steps on his tail and there's like a squeaky sound when he steps on a step and I swear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2318">TS</a>]
00:38:43 ◼ ► when that came on screen I had to leave I had to step out. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2323">TS</a>]
00:38:46 ◼ ► I couldn't deal with it I pretended like I had to go to the bathroom. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2326">TS</a>]
00:38:48 ◼ ► I really didn't I just had to walk out of the room for a minute like catch my breath [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2328">TS</a>]
00:38:52 ◼ ► and not also watch that absolutely horrible horrible scene doubting myself and I thought I somehow messed this up. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2332">TS</a>]
00:38:59 ◼ ► And all I was thinking of is is one of our earlier conversations where I talk about how I don't have any regrets. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2339">TS</a>]
00:39:05 ◼ ► This is going to be one of the things I will regret until the end of time. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2345">TS</a>]
00:39:09 ◼ ► I made people watch the specialized addition not only that I made David Prowse Darth Vader himself watch the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2349">TS</a>]
00:39:19 ◼ ► specialized addition and if it couldn't be any worse to add one additional dagger into my heart. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2359">TS</a>]
00:39:25 ◼ ► There were three people with us that day who had never seen Star Wars absolute Star Wars virgins [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2365">TS</a>]
00:39:34 ◼ ► and what do they see for the first time the specialized addition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2374">TS</a>]
00:39:39 ◼ ► and I did not know how this happened so I say my heart sank as well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2379">TS</a>]
00:39:44 ◼ ► and I did have a like a bit of a moment not least of all because I've told people before the screening that we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2384">TS</a>]
00:39:49 ◼ ► going to watch the specialist one as well. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2389">TS</a>]
00:39:52 ◼ ► I'd kind of brag that way we've got to control this and then we show them that some of those nonsense things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2392">TS</a>]
00:40:00 ◼ ► After I got over the initial shock I didn't I didn't take quite as badly as you said he was a cock up of some scale [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2400">TS</a>]
00:40:09 ◼ ► but the thing that is amazing is the movie from my opinion that it still shines through the Special Edition. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2409">TS</a>]
00:40:14 ◼ ► Right it is still definitely enjoyable. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2414">TS</a>]
00:40:17 ◼ ► There's one thing that I wonder if I've occasionally heard that that younger people cannot tell the difference between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2417">TS</a>]
00:40:27 ◼ ► and the prequel Star Wars movies which is always horrifying to me whenever I hear this that there's this kind of no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2427">TS</a>]
00:40:32 ◼ ► distinction drawn and I was one. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2432">TS</a>]
00:40:35 ◼ ► Well as we're watching the specialized addition I thought ha I can kind of understand maybe why that would happen. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2435">TS</a>]
00:40:41 ◼ ► Because everything that has been added in the specialized version is like the same kind of just childish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2441">TS</a>]
00:40:48 ◼ ► or distracting stuff that is all over the screen that just doesn't need to be there that doesn't add anything to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2448">TS</a>]
00:40:53 ◼ ► plot. He sprayed some of that crap all over the good stuff to match the bad stuff. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2453">TS</a>]
00:40:58 ◼ ► Yeah and I was kind of I was watching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2458">TS</a>]
00:41:00 ◼ ► and thinking yeah I could see how the tone of these movies is much less different if you're watching the specialized [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2460">TS</a>]
00:41:09 ◼ ► addition at least in the very beginning of Star Wars. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2469">TS</a>]
00:41:14 ◼ ► So when Gray says specialist edition as he keeps saying he means a special edition. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2474">TS</a>]
00:41:19 ◼ ► Yes but as opposed to the specialist but yeah yeah. My bad my bad. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2479">TS</a>]
00:41:24 ◼ ► and I would really curious for feedback of people who've seen that is the first time they do do they notice all of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2484">TS</a>]
00:41:32 ◼ ► stuff. Does this detract like I would want to do A B. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2492">TS</a>]
00:41:35 ◼ ► Testing on on groups of the population who haven't seen Star Wars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2495">TS</a>]
00:41:39 ◼ ► and see what you know what do they think of the special the special version versus the D specialize edition why does it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2499">TS</a>]
00:41:46 ◼ ► make as much of a difference as I feel that it makes or what I actually I almost don't want to admit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2506">TS</a>]
00:41:52 ◼ ► but it's possibly quite likely. Am I just extremely sensitive to the changes because I love you. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2512">TS</a>]
00:42:01 ◼ ► Well I would just be really curious to know I'm going to say to my credit first mind I knew it was the wrong edition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2521">TS</a>]
00:42:08 ◼ ► well before you did. Like I was very akin to some very subtle differences early on. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2528">TS</a>]
00:42:14 ◼ ► Like you I was thinking did the special that did the deed specializes you know have to make some compromises [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2534">TS</a>]
00:42:20 ◼ ► but I knew something was wrong very quickly. So I'm going to say that to my credit to big myself up as a stylus fan. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2540">TS</a>]
00:42:27 ◼ ► Well yeah you notice you notice the scene difference that I would never have noticed. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2547">TS</a>]
00:42:31 ◼ ► Yeah I noticed that the sky was different in a sane and things like that say so. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2551">TS</a>]
00:42:36 ◼ ► So I'm thinking oh I'm Mr Starr I was here I for that but just to bring things back down to earth for everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2556">TS</a>]
00:42:42 ◼ ► and I'm sure people have guessed this by now already. It was May he cocked up spectacularly. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2562">TS</a>]
00:42:50 ◼ ► I supplied the wrong file because after the film I went up and checked it they put a D.V.D. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2570">TS</a>]
00:42:55 ◼ ► In a something and not use my file and the D.V.D. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2575">TS</a>]
00:42:58 ◼ ► I bought as a backup was still there in its plastic wrap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2578">TS</a>]
00:43:01 ◼ ► and I've seen them start a computer file so it could only be the file I supplied [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2581">TS</a>]
00:43:06 ◼ ► and then it occurred to me what I've done wrong what we were talking about in the car afterward [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2586">TS</a>]
00:43:10 ◼ ► and you realized that you had done a Spotlight search for Star Wars and dragged over a file [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2590">TS</a>]
00:43:17 ◼ ► and apparently you you have a copy of the special edition which is which is amazing to me. All this is. I don't mind. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2597">TS</a>]
00:43:25 ◼ ► He watched it enough that spotlight thinks it is the version you want oh no that's not saying that's not the case. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2605">TS</a>]
00:43:30 ◼ ► Anyway I did have it I did have both a D. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2610">TS</a>]
00:43:32 ◼ ► Specialized and that special edition I don't want to incriminate myself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2612">TS</a>]
00:43:36 ◼ ► but I imagine I had the specialized addition once when I very quickly made a Star Wars sane for research purposes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2616">TS</a>]
00:43:44 ◼ ► Yeah that's the only reason I have to do specialized addition is as well I need it for research for fair use research [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2624">TS</a>]
00:43:51 ◼ ► purposes anyway I'm working on something like Red Letter media. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2631">TS</a>]
00:43:54 ◼ ► It'll never be out but I'm working more now anyway so I took the wrong. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2634">TS</a>]
00:44:00 ◼ ► Just copied across and didn't check [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2640">TS</a>]
00:44:02 ◼ ► but funnily enough as idle as I look back over the mistakes I've made there was an opportunity to pick this mistake up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2642">TS</a>]
00:44:11 ◼ ► like an episode of air crash investigation where you look back over the things that went wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2651">TS</a>]
00:44:16 ◼ ► and even one of those moments where some engineer could have done something differently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2656">TS</a>]
00:44:20 ◼ ► or something while it could've difference which I did have that moment where I could have saved the day because I did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2660">TS</a>]
00:44:27 ◼ ► check a few days before just to make sure the file worked. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2667">TS</a>]
00:44:30 ◼ ► What does this video even play it in the end credits there is the stop there and obvious aims in the middle. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2670">TS</a>]
00:44:37 ◼ ► So I randomly looked at the scene in the middle of the film [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2677">TS</a>]
00:44:40 ◼ ► and by coincidence it was the scene where Han Solo has his little interaction with Greta in the canteen of all the nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2680">TS</a>]
00:44:49 ◼ ► outline so I watched and thought I can let's watch to see if the shooting say the shooting happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2689">TS</a>]
00:44:56 ◼ ► and the shooting happened and I had that you know extra blast that was added were great I shot first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2696">TS</a>]
00:45:02 ◼ ► and I was like oh yeah so in the day specialist EDITION. That's that's what was that's interesting I never knew that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2702">TS</a>]
00:45:10 ◼ ► So after telling everyone beforehand that I got a good addition and telling gray and that I stuffed up. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2710">TS</a>]
00:45:17 ◼ ► And actually I have I have not yet apologized to everyone who came for that mistake. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2717">TS</a>]
00:45:22 ◼ ► So this is my public apology it's my mia culpa. It was entirely my fault. It was not my intention. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2722">TS</a>]
00:45:29 ◼ ► I'm not surprised by it because I'm rubbish and stuff things up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2729">TS</a>]
00:45:32 ◼ ► but they say sorry Gray sorry sorry everyone I want to be clear I'm not going to let you take one hundred percent of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2732">TS</a>]
00:45:39 ◼ ► the blame because I was I was thinking later on. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2739">TS</a>]
00:45:42 ◼ ► Initially when I found out it was it was you I thought I had this huge like all thank God sigh of relief. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2742">TS</a>]
00:45:47 ◼ ► But later on I decided no no no I should have handled it the same way that I did and a lot of moments [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2747">TS</a>]
00:45:53 ◼ ► when you're teaching where everybody triple check stuff and so I thought I should have checked the file as well. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2753">TS</a>]
00:45:59 ◼ ► I should have had a back up. So this is also partly my fault I will not let you take one hundred percent of the blade. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2759">TS</a>]
00:46:03 ◼ ► That's kind of you I mean I don't agree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2763">TS</a>]
00:46:06 ◼ ► but you can have you can you can have five percent you can have five percent of the blind makes you feel better so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2766">TS</a>]
00:46:12 ◼ ► will take forty percent of the time. Afterwards the man himself comes up the movie has ended. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2772">TS</a>]
00:46:20 ◼ ► I have to say that was one of my favorite moments from the day is the very first scene [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2780">TS</a>]
00:46:24 ◼ ► when Darth Vader steps stepped onto the starship everybody spontaneously just let out a big clap except I think you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2784">TS</a>]
00:46:32 ◼ ► booed someone because I thought it's like the villain you're going to be the villain. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2792">TS</a>]
00:46:36 ◼ ► Like I thought that was the thing to do whatever it was cheering like he was a hero. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2796">TS</a>]
00:46:40 ◼ ► Life just goes in the room doesn't mean that it is not that bad a buddy but Darth Vader is awesome I have that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2800">TS</a>]
00:46:46 ◼ ► but that was my absolute favorite moment of the whole day is Darth Vader coming on screen is like the man himself is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2806">TS</a>]
00:46:52 ◼ ► sitting here and everybody except Brady cheered and yes you're right you know booing is totally fine here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2812">TS</a>]
00:46:58 ◼ ► but then after the movie he went up to the front and he was taking questions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2818">TS</a>]
00:47:02 ◼ ► and it was great to see a charming man he is he is a very charming man very charming. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2822">TS</a>]
00:47:10 ◼ ► So he actually said I do not believe this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2830">TS</a>]
00:47:15 ◼ ► but he said it sounded like was only the second time he'd watched the whole film from start to finish. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2835">TS</a>]
00:47:21 ◼ ► Now I was I was squinting my eyes at their answer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2841">TS</a>]
00:47:23 ◼ ► and I'm not sure I one hundred percent believe this I mean you know I can imagine maybe he's just watched infractions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2843">TS</a>]
00:47:30 ◼ ► like a million times and it doesn't ever watch it from start to finish but that is quite possible actually. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2850">TS</a>]
00:47:35 ◼ ► But anyway that's what he said and you know we'll take it as our exclusive exclusive law and our public policy will be. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2855">TS</a>]
00:47:43 ◼ ► We watched Star Wars with David Prowse for the second time he had ever seen the film. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2863">TS</a>]
00:47:46 ◼ ► Yeah and he tells the North Atlantic some bits and pieces [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2866">TS</a>]
00:47:50 ◼ ► and I guess we'll leave those for the people in the room to enjoy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2870">TS</a>]
00:47:53 ◼ ► and savor because they were the lucky ones to be there and then he posed for a bunch of selfies and. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2873">TS</a>]
00:48:02 ◼ ► I saw your wife went up and got a selfie with the man I noticed it was it was it was great you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2882">TS</a>]
00:48:06 ◼ ► and I got a photo with Darth Vader's moment. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2886">TS</a>]
00:48:09 ◼ ► Definitely I was going to miss that opportunity now and then and then once once David had done his duty for for this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2889">TS</a>]
00:48:17 ◼ ► and for us he was able to depart and your OK speeding off in his tie fighter however you want to imagine. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2897">TS</a>]
00:48:26 ◼ ► My favorite part of the day was earlier on when there was a bit like a traffic jam and we were outside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2906">TS</a>]
00:48:30 ◼ ► and like I was trying to get out the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2910">TS</a>]
00:48:32 ◼ ► and David was following me on like he had this motorized scooter because he's got a leg injury [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2912">TS</a>]
00:48:38 ◼ ► and it was like I was being followed by death later in a tie fighter stay on target stay on target. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2918">TS</a>]
00:48:43 ◼ ► So anyway he and his wife departed. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2923">TS</a>]
00:48:45 ◼ ► We're very grateful to them and then we had a chance to hang out with people and also do some selfies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2925">TS</a>]
00:48:50 ◼ ► and we did say we're going to do some signatures and I thought we might have to sign a few posters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2930">TS</a>]
00:48:55 ◼ ► and things like that. What I did not expect was the incredible amount of technology we were asked to sign. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2935">TS</a>]
00:49:02 ◼ ► By my count I signed two candles one with a keyboard and one the beloved paper white three i Pads and five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2942">TS</a>]
00:49:14 ◼ ► or six phones. Yeah it was. It was very expensive signing I was very nervous for this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2954">TS</a>]
00:49:24 ◼ ► When someone hands you their phone I remember this in Alabama as they oh you know ha ha ha you know one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2964">TS</a>]
00:49:29 ◼ ► or two people had a sign sign phones but then to have a line of people who are holding their i Pads or phones. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2969">TS</a>]
00:49:36 ◼ ► This is this is a lot of pressure not to mess this up to do a good signature because already I don't know I must mess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2976">TS</a>]
00:49:43 ◼ ► Yeah yeah if I have a I have a video of me doing a time lapse of signing stuff assigning posters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2983">TS</a>]
00:49:50 ◼ ► and you can see on there you know whatever it is. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2990">TS</a>]
00:49:53 ◼ ► One out of ten or so you can see that I have to like been the poster because I apparently can't sign my own name. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/2993">TS</a>]
00:50:02 ◼ ► When is that while there you know we have seven i Devices that you need to sign in a row you need to get it right it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/3002">TS</a>]
00:50:08 ◼ ► has to be done right it's usually preferable I'm happy to do it. Point is that a lot of stress. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/3008">TS</a>]
00:50:15 ◼ ► Yeah it's a lot of stress so I felt relief every time someone came up with a post it was a bit like thank God I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/3015">TS</a>]
00:50:21 ◼ ► going to accidently ruin possibly one of the most important technological devices in your life with my terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/3021">TS</a>]
00:50:27 ◼ ► signature I felt like a bit of a pretender sun in the candle I think it was clearly a cake because your the your the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/3027">TS</a>]
00:50:32 ◼ ► famous Kindle complained and they got you to sign and then they're like Brady we use on my Kindle to OK [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/3032">TS</a>]
00:50:38 ◼ ► but clearly you just feel bad because I'm here I'm going to get me to do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/3038">TS</a>]
00:50:44 ◼ ► but anyway I did it he got it you gotta catch em all you gotta catch em all you need both signatures. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/3044">TS</a>]
00:50:49 ◼ ► Yeah it increases or increases the resale value. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/3049">TS</a>]
00:50:52 ◼ ► People came from very far and we appreciate all that but it's only someone came from Italy. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/3052">TS</a>]
00:50:59 ◼ ► There was someone from Boston as well it was I was I was doing my best all day long to try to try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/3059">TS</a>]
00:51:05 ◼ ► and be able to talk to everybody at least for a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/3065">TS</a>]
00:51:08 ◼ ► and that the group was as always big enough to be slightly intimidating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/3068">TS</a>]
00:51:12 ◼ ► but small enough that I felt like oh yeah I did get a chance to say hello to everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/3072">TS</a>]
00:51:15 ◼ ► and that was is genuinely nice I mean as I kept saying to everybody on the day it is also just a kind of very strange [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/3075">TS</a>]
00:51:22 ◼ ► experience from my perspective but it was it was it was really good to be able to meet people and say hi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/3082">TS</a>]
00:51:28 ◼ ► and I really I really like the whole format of the day of oh we have stuff to do like like we're just a group of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/3088">TS</a>]
00:51:36 ◼ ► and we're going to the zoo and we're going to look at penguins and now we're going to watch a movie. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/3096">TS</a>]
00:51:40 ◼ ► It had a very very different feeling to something like Alabama which which was an event. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/3100">TS</a>]
00:51:47 ◼ ► and I felt for me anyway it made it much more natural to just kind of talk to people as as we're walking around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/3107">TS</a>]
00:51:53 ◼ ► and doing stuff in the day so I had a I had a pretty good time but I was very exhausted by the time it was over. Yes. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/3113">TS</a>]
00:52:00 ◼ ► Next one time to thank you everyone one more time thank you people thank you say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/3120">TS</a>]
00:52:04 ◼ ► and without forcing your pictures with C.G. B. Groh the penguin. Thanks everyone. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/3124">TS</a>]
00:52:09 ◼ ► Now most importantly after this you came back. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/3129">TS</a>]
00:52:14 ◼ ► I don't live in Bristol in Cyprus till he came back to to my place because he was you decide to spend the night in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/3134">TS</a>]
00:52:22 ◼ ► part of the world so yes you stayed at a house and you got to meet Audrey. Yes I stated chateau hire and he did. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/3142">TS</a>]
00:52:30 ◼ ► And Guy did get to meet Audrey and Lulu. Yeah I mean I met Lulu before yes. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/3150">TS</a>]
00:52:36 ◼ ► Never touched Lulu because I don't want to make her too nervous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/3156">TS</a>]
00:52:39 ◼ ► or too upset to talk just now no I was going to you my dear. I like some savage days everyone touches and pats. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/3159">TS</a>]
00:52:50 ◼ ► She's not no no no it is it is the exact opposite is the exact opposite. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/3170">TS</a>]
00:52:54 ◼ ► She's very calm and she is very sweet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/3174">TS</a>]
00:52:58 ◼ ► but I feel that with dogs I don't want to bother them right if she wants to come up that's perfectly fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/3178">TS</a>]
00:53:03 ◼ ► but I was very happy to have them around but I was not going to go bother her especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/3183">TS</a>]
00:53:07 ◼ ► when she's lying on her doggie bed of a dog is lying on their little doggie bed that should be a safe space for them. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/3187">TS</a>]
00:53:12 ◼ ► They shouldn't have people coming up and poking them and petting them. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/3192">TS</a>]
00:53:15 ◼ ► They should always feel safe in a little doggie beds more than made up for it with the amount of touching of a tree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/3195">TS</a>]
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00:53:32 ◼ ► and it was very exciting to me the trick so that was that was also a high point of the trip. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/3212">TS</a>]
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00:53:53 ◼ ► and my wife was constantly holding on to is the way it seemed from from my perspective that's how it is with village if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/3233">TS</a>]
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00:54:03 ◼ ► And yes I did get to see the room has an atlas in it before you start doing the thing that you always do. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/3243">TS</a>]
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00:54:14 ◼ ► I don't go in there and I'm not like you repulsed which is what you always seem to think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/3254">TS</a>]
00:54:19 ◼ ► but is in one hundred percent not the case at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/3259">TS</a>]
00:54:22 ◼ ► and everyone great was very nice he wasn't making jokes about the house he was very complementary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/3262">TS</a>]
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00:55:23 ◼ ► or loved one a picture that shares some kind of memory between the two of you. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/3323">TS</a>]
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00:55:31 ◼ ► So when you give it to them it sort of a talking point a lot or look at that how does that work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/3331">TS</a>]
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00:55:54 ◼ ► or some kind of graphic for every element on the periodic table and then hanging them on your wall as a Jew. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/3354">TS</a>]
00:56:00 ◼ ► All right periodic table like a messy installation. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/3360">TS</a>]
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00:56:05 ◼ ► and lining things up which admittedly are not I think that would be brilliant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/3365">TS</a>]
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00:56:41 ◼ ► Maybe we should get a fracture of C G P grade the penguin. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/3401">TS</a>]
00:56:44 ◼ ► Ari can these factors are the sole things Gray would hang in his house to cause the kind of minimalistic and coal. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/3404">TS</a>]
00:56:51 ◼ ► I have a little paper cut. Oh you have a paper cutter Grady's paper cuts. Oh yeah. He kind of he kind of sang that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/3411">TS</a>]
00:56:59 ◼ ► So my paper cut is something I occasionally I'm guilty of that but there are times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/3419">TS</a>]
00:57:05 ◼ ► when it's more acceptable than others. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/3425">TS</a>]
00:57:07 ◼ ► My paper is when people send you a link to something in email but more often on something like Twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/3427">TS</a>]
00:57:14 ◼ ► or social media and they don't tell you what the link is to so someone might tweet Brady you should look at this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/3434">TS</a>]
00:57:21 ◼ ► and there's a link to it and you cannot tell from the link what it is or have you seen this or you will love this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/3441">TS</a>]
00:57:28 ◼ ► or I bet you hate this or check it out and you have no idea what you're clicking on and what you going to go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/3448">TS</a>]
00:57:34 ◼ ► and it could be something really worthwhile that you're glad you saw or it could be a complete and utter waste of time. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/3454">TS</a>]
00:57:40 ◼ ► Whatever it is I know less and less now because I have pretty much imposed a blanket ban on clicking on links [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/3460">TS</a>]
00:57:48 ◼ ► when I'm given no idea what the link is going to pay the debts are hard fastballs you know it's like all of my policies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/3468">TS</a>]
00:57:54 ◼ ► it's more on it's going to be a breach than the observance but porous. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/3474">TS</a>]
00:58:00 ◼ ► But that I am I am trying this does not apply to people to trusted sources. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/3480">TS</a>]
00:58:05 ◼ ► So Gray sends me a link and says watch this video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/3485">TS</a>]
00:58:09 ◼ ► and she says You Tube dot com slash X Y Z four three seven eight nine and I have no idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/3489">TS</a>]
00:58:14 ◼ ► when the video is going to say I will watch it because Gray is a trusted source but if someone I've never met before. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/3494">TS</a>]
00:58:21 ◼ ► and says Brady you have to say this I'm not going to click on that because it could be something awesome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/3501">TS</a>]
00:58:26 ◼ ► or it could be a complete waste of my time or it could be a joke or a prank or I'm just going to go away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/3506">TS</a>]
00:58:32 ◼ ► and if I say check this out really it's you know and they tell me what it is I can then make an informed decision. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/3512">TS</a>]
00:58:40 ◼ ► So do you have a position on this I mean this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/3520">TS</a>]
00:58:43 ◼ ► Surely this comes under some sort of Internet etiquette that you will have a policy on and have read about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/3523">TS</a>]
00:58:49 ◼ ► and know all about because you know everything about the Internet. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/3529">TS</a>]
00:58:53 ◼ ► I believe that what people are doing when they do this is they are trying to be intriguing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/3533">TS</a>]
00:58:58 ◼ ► and they are hoping that they're intriguing this gets you to click on the link. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/3538">TS</a>]
00:59:04 ◼ ► I think that's what's going on in people's heads they are filing right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/3544">TS</a>]
00:59:09 ◼ ► But if anybody has spent a long time on the Internet particularly I feel like the old Slashdot days you learn pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/3549">TS</a>]
00:59:16 ◼ ► fast. You don't just click on a link right just just for fun. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/3556">TS</a>]
00:59:20 ◼ ► You don't want to play link roulette with your eyes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/3560">TS</a>]
00:59:24 ◼ ► and with your brain because you never know what you're going to see. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/3564">TS</a>]
00:59:27 ◼ ► Yeah there are things that once you see them they can never be unseen. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/3567">TS</a>]
00:59:31 ◼ ► And so yes you don't play link roulette when someone just sends you a random link is not going to happen. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/3571">TS</a>]
00:59:36 ◼ ► I know tweets have limited characters but give me some context [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/3576">TS</a>]
00:59:39 ◼ ► or at least make it case I probably still won't click on it because you may then be lying. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/3579">TS</a>]
00:59:44 ◼ ► But that that will help the only thing in my life which is somewhat like this where I do click on the links is again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/3584">TS</a>]
00:59:50 ◼ ► when you say someone you know sends you something and one person in particular who's kind of bad at this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/3590">TS</a>]
00:59:57 ◼ ► but lots of people do this where I will just get the people I know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/3597">TS</a>]
01:00:00 ◼ ► Who know me well enough to be sending me I messages will just send me a U.R.L. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/3600">TS</a>]
01:00:05 ◼ ► and So it'll it'll just be like a You Tube U.R.L. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/3605">TS</a>]
01:00:07 ◼ ► I cannot stop my brain from Always assuming when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/3607">TS</a>]
01:00:11 ◼ ► when presented with no context that whatever I'm about to click on is going to be horrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/3611">TS</a>]
01:00:17 ◼ ► or that it's going to be some kind of problem that I have to deal with for the rest of the day. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/3617">TS</a>]
01:00:22 ◼ ► Someone stole a new video or something. Yeah yeah exactly like that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/3622">TS</a>]
01:00:27 ◼ ► Or you know look you you know whatever there's a whole there's a whole universe of things that are sometimes problems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/3627">TS</a>]
01:00:35 ◼ ► when ever I receive a contextless link from someone I know very well every single time I have a moment of God What is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/3635">TS</a>]
01:00:45 ◼ ► Yeah and I click on it and it's just I don't know maybe someone needs a title for their video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/3645">TS</a>]
01:00:50 ◼ ► or it's you know just something that they want to show me there's no reason that if anything bad you know I owe my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/3650">TS</a>]
01:00:56 ◼ ► brain just assumes that it's going to be bad news and that it's a problem and it makes me sad. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/3656">TS</a>]
01:01:00 ◼ ► So I do not appreciate the contextless links either and I try to do them as little as possible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/3660">TS</a>]
01:01:04 ◼ ► but every once in a while you do you just send someone a link [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/3664">TS</a>]
01:01:06 ◼ ► and then you know for fear of you digging through a message [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/3666">TS</a>]
01:01:09 ◼ ► and then incriminating me terribly I do feel like I try to do that with you if I send you a link. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/3669">TS</a>]
01:01:14 ◼ ► I try to put some kind of context on as in you know I want you to watch as I made it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/3674">TS</a>]
01:01:19 ◼ ► or something like So you say you're not playing that role. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/3679">TS</a>]
01:01:22 ◼ ► Yeah I feel like you're pretty good with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/3682">TS</a>]
01:01:24 ◼ ► and I think you're pretty good with that as well because of your policy of not clicking on the links you're much more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/3684">TS</a>]
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01:01:35 ◼ ► There's something else that just came into my head the other day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/3695">TS</a>]
01:01:40 ◼ ► and it's one of the things I wanted to ask you about because you seem to know everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/3700">TS</a>]
01:01:44 ◼ ► and have an answer to everything so I thought you'd know the answer to this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/3704">TS</a>]
01:01:48 ◼ ► Now I'm worried I know just like for a few days in a row that they were I know you don't read news sites so this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/3708">TS</a>]
01:01:53 ◼ ► doesn't actually apply to you but you're aware that new sites exist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/3713">TS</a>]
01:01:56 ◼ ► and you know I am aware of the news as of yesterday and for a few. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/3716">TS</a>]
01:02:00 ◼ ► Days in a row source stories about semi famous people dying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/3720">TS</a>]
01:02:05 ◼ ► and these were people who are going to be honest I probably hadn't heard of like you know this old lady has died [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/3725">TS</a>]
01:02:12 ◼ ► and she was famous for some hit songs she sang in the one nine hundred fifty S. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/3732">TS</a>]
01:02:16 ◼ ► or This guy directed some film in the one nine hundred seventy S. That was really popular and I to I don't know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/3736">TS</a>]
01:02:23 ◼ ► So you quite often see stories about people famous people dying and sometimes you've heard of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/3743">TS</a>]
01:02:30 ◼ ► and sometimes you haven't but there's always there's always one of them every couple of days or so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/3750">TS</a>]
01:02:35 ◼ ► and so old person has died at the age of eighty three. She was a famous ballet dancer from the one nine hundred sixty S. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/3755">TS</a>]
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01:02:44 ◼ ► and you're thinking you know gosh now as the media becomes more and more saturated and I get older and older. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/3764">TS</a>]
01:02:51 ◼ ► Is there going to be a time in twenty years or say when this just going to be so many famous people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/3771">TS</a>]
01:02:58 ◼ ► or so many people that did things that I may know about that the news industry is just going to be like forty people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/3778">TS</a>]
01:03:04 ◼ ► dying a day because if I was shown a list of all the people who are older than me who I may have heard of. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/3784">TS</a>]
01:03:13 ◼ ► That list is going to be massive now like it's going to be full of cricketers and sportsman and movie stars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/3793">TS</a>]
01:03:20 ◼ ► and politicians and all these people have to die eventually. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/3800">TS</a>]
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01:03:28 ◼ ► and older every day there's going to be no now that cricketer who I liked when I was a teenager has died today that T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/3808">TS</a>]
01:03:35 ◼ ► Star who I used to watch in that soap opera in the 1980's died like are we going to get a son like is this death thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/3815">TS</a>]
01:03:46 ◼ ► Are you worried that newspapers will be filled with the deaths of notable people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/3826">TS</a>]
01:03:52 ◼ ► and they won't have space for other things. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/3832">TS</a>]
01:03:54 ◼ ► No no no no but what I'm saying at the moment is when the when someone dies it is it's like it's unusual. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/3834">TS</a>]
01:04:00 ◼ ► So once I died today who would have thought. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/3840">TS</a>]
01:04:02 ◼ ► But that's because the people who are dying at the moment from an era [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/3842">TS</a>]
01:04:06 ◼ ► when there weren't as many famous people say the right OK OK rather than the number of people is increase yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/3846">TS</a>]
01:04:13 ◼ ► or they're out at the moment there are too many people dying it's kind of manageable does anyone maybe want to die. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/3853">TS</a>]
01:04:20 ◼ ► Julio who is worthy of a news article but it feels to me that in thirty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/3860">TS</a>]
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01:04:33 ◼ ► and my head's going to explode for the number of people dying that I that I have an interest in. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/3873">TS</a>]
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01:04:58 ◼ ► and one politician from my hometown all die on the same day I would be curious to know that all of those things. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/3898">TS</a>]
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01:05:12 ◼ ► comprehend or is there some fact I'm missing about distribution of days or distribution [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/3912">TS</a>]
01:05:18 ◼ ► but for example I know I've reached a point in my life now where. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/3918">TS</a>]
01:05:23 ◼ ► The number of famous people who are younger than me has become quite significant. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/3923">TS</a>]
01:05:28 ◼ ► So for example I will probably die before Taylor Swift. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/3928">TS</a>]
01:05:31 ◼ ► So it's unlikely I will read a new story about this pop star of the you know twenty tens who had a whole bunch of hit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/3931">TS</a>]
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01:19:49 ◼ ► Yeah actually are regular Australians allowed to vote in the national election I don't think they are. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/4789">TS</a>]
01:19:55 ◼ ► Do you know why I thought the answer to that was no but I saw a friend write something on. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/4795">TS</a>]
01:20:00 ◼ ► I spoke the other day where where he talked about the fact he just realized the whole time he was here he could have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/4800">TS</a>]
01:20:04 ◼ ► voted and he didn't say the answer is I don't know the answer but I wouldn't rule that out. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/4804">TS</a>]
01:20:11 ◼ ► We are both eligible to the background is the upshot to that so the next question is did you vote. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/4811">TS</a>]
01:20:17 ◼ ► OK the way it works here is that you fill out a little a registration card that comes around in every October [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/4817">TS</a>]
01:20:27 ◼ ► or so to basically let the government know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/4827">TS</a>]
01:20:30 ◼ ► Hi I'm a person who resides at this address [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/4830">TS</a>]
01:20:32 ◼ ► and yes I am legally allowed to say that I put you on the roll basically right and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/4832">TS</a>]
01:20:37 ◼ ► when you fill that out the you get added to this big list of people who are allowed to vote. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/4837">TS</a>]
01:20:44 ◼ ► And unlike many places in America you cannot turn up on the day and just say OK I want to vote. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/4844">TS</a>]
01:20:50 ◼ ► Can you register me now is like not enough has to be done in advance so you need to be on this list. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/4850">TS</a>]
01:20:55 ◼ ► And so this this comes around and I always make sure to fill out this little form so that I'm on the list. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/4855">TS</a>]
01:21:01 ◼ ► You know you're eligible to vote in various elections. Now I have to confess something to you Brady because. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/4861">TS</a>]
01:21:08 ◼ ► I was entirely unaware that there was an election going on until the last time we were recording this podcast and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/4868">TS</a>]
01:21:19 ◼ ► You made some casual remark to me about the upcoming election and I just went along with that I went Oh yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/4879">TS</a>]
01:21:28 ◼ ► and the conversation sort of moved along and I was writing down on a piece of paper U.K. Election date. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/4888">TS</a>]
01:21:35 ◼ ► Question mark right as a thing to look into the conversation so I only I only learned of the election whatever it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/4895">TS</a>]
01:21:45 ◼ ► That's crazy to me like that's just pain everywhere it's like everyone else in the country is like for God's sake let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/4905">TS</a>]
01:21:51 ◼ ► it end I'm so sick of it and you're writing down notes going and elections going on.. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/4911">TS</a>]
01:21:56 ◼ ► QUESTION The reason I was looking into it is because it's an R.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/4916">TS</a>]
01:22:00 ◼ ► As topic for video and when we hung up the phone after that I immediately was over them a lookup on the datas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/4920">TS</a>]
01:22:06 ◼ ► and I thought it was relatively soon and I ended up doing some initial research to try to make a video for it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/4926">TS</a>]
01:22:11 ◼ ► but then quickly realized I was not going to be able to do it in time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/4931">TS</a>]
01:22:15 ◼ ► and so yes it did come to kind of bite me in the butt because had I known about it ahead of time I would have been able [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/4935">TS</a>]
01:22:21 ◼ ► to make the video in advance but I did not have a video this year for that reason I can. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/4941">TS</a>]
01:22:25 ◼ ► Oh we have to back up for a second because this is going to sound incredibly confusing to Americans this is not like in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/4945">TS</a>]
01:22:31 ◼ ► America where everybody knows until the end of time when all of the elections are going to take place. The U.K. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/4951">TS</a>]
01:22:37 ◼ ► Elections don't take place every X. Number of years for various complications that we won't get into. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/4957">TS</a>]
01:22:46 ◼ ► You can have an election that happens early. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/4966">TS</a>]
01:22:48 ◼ ► They just have to happen once every I think it's five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/4968">TS</a>]
01:22:51 ◼ ► or six years now I forget because it changed recently there has been some changes on that in recent years I think you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/4971">TS</a>]
01:22:56 ◼ ► should rate read up a bit more I looked into it and yes the way that it can happen has chair and the. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/4976">TS</a>]
01:23:01 ◼ ► The date for this election has been known for a long time like this this is the first time where the election wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/4981">TS</a>]
01:23:07 ◼ ► quite as random as it has been in the past. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/4987">TS</a>]
01:23:10 ◼ ► Things have firmed up a bit there but anyway it is firmer but you still have uncertainty and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/4990">TS</a>]
01:23:15 ◼ ► when the date is going to be and you still only know when the maximum date is going to be unlike. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/4995">TS</a>]
01:23:20 ◼ ► I'm fully aware when all of the presidential elections for the rest of time will happen because I can count by four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5000">TS</a>]
01:23:26 ◼ ► and that's so that's not the situation here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5006">TS</a>]
01:23:27 ◼ ► and that's why in theory for someone it could be a kind of surprise that there's an election going on. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5007">TS</a>]
01:23:32 ◼ ► OK So a couple of weeks. You knew it was coming. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5012">TS</a>]
01:23:34 ◼ ► So getting back to the did you vote question model on election day people who are Follow me on Twitter knew that I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5014">TS</a>]
01:23:40 ◼ ► dedicated a week to administrative tasks to catch up on a whole bunch of stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5020">TS</a>]
01:23:44 ◼ ► and it was during this week that election day was happening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5024">TS</a>]
01:23:48 ◼ ► and I have to admit that I had no intentions of going out to vote because I thought I got a whole bunch of other stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5028">TS</a>]
01:23:53 ◼ ► to do but the thing was I had Brady in the back of my mind and I thought I had some. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5033">TS</a>]
01:24:00 ◼ ► You had mentioned that you wanted to talk about the election upcoming podcast. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5040">TS</a>]
01:24:03 ◼ ► I thought I know Brady is going to give me a hard time about if I don't vote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5043">TS</a>]
01:24:07 ◼ ► and he was like a little a little angel on my shoulder saying you should probably go out and vote. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5047">TS</a>]
01:24:13 ◼ ► but anyway this was what was in my mind this is what was in my mind you know what I really can't I got too much to do. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5053">TS</a>]
01:24:22 ◼ ► There's too much stuff that I'm feeling bad about being way behind on I got to get this stuff done. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5062">TS</a>]
01:24:27 ◼ ► But during the day at one point I go out to run some errands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5067">TS</a>]
01:24:31 ◼ ► and as I'm going out to run some errands I literally on the same side of the street walk right by a gigantic sign that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5071">TS</a>]
01:24:39 ◼ ► says polling station pointing into a library [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5079">TS</a>]
01:24:43 ◼ ► and there are people on the inside clearly welcoming welcoming me in to go vote. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5083">TS</a>]
01:24:47 ◼ ► OK And so I thought now I'm going to feel like a real jerk if it's right here it will take two seconds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5087">TS</a>]
01:24:54 ◼ ► and I don't actually step in to go vote. So I step in to go vote. Just before you say what happened next. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5094">TS</a>]
01:25:00 ◼ ► Yes if you didn't even know the election was on. How on earth can you know who you going to vote for. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5100">TS</a>]
01:25:06 ◼ ► I was wondering if you were going to pick up on this post because I hadn't seen any of the debates. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5106">TS</a>]
01:25:12 ◼ ► I hadn't been aware of any of the issues being discussed. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5112">TS</a>]
01:25:16 ◼ ► I could not be a more uninformed voter this is you are the advertisement for one of the biggest problems with democracy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5116">TS</a>]
01:25:24 ◼ ► in my opinion because you know what that's like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5124">TS</a>]
01:25:27 ◼ ► I was keenly aware that this was a very funny moment of oh you know you tell people oh everybody should go out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5127">TS</a>]
01:25:34 ◼ ► I I doubt that there was a person less informed in the nation walking into a polling station at that moment than myself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5134">TS</a>]
01:25:41 ◼ ► in a grade that proves to me that you don't watch the news because despite the fact you didn't even know the election [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5141">TS</a>]
01:25:47 ◼ ► was on I guarantee you were in the upper echelon of people who knew about what. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5147">TS</a>]
01:25:52 ◼ ► Because I see interviews with people on the street on the news with the Vox Pops [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5152">TS</a>]
01:25:57 ◼ ► and I say Who are you going to vote for for prime minister. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5157">TS</a>]
01:26:00 ◼ ► Don't know who the prime minister is or they don't know who the party is in power [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5160">TS</a>]
01:26:03 ◼ ► or they don't you know people's ignorance never ceases to amaze me so even though you didn't know the election was on I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5163">TS</a>]
01:26:10 ◼ ► am more comfortable with you voting than the majority of people who voted that day. But anyway. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5170">TS</a>]
01:26:15 ◼ ► Oh thanks Brady that feels like a condemnation of the masses but I will take it as a compliment of me thank you. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5175">TS</a>]
01:26:21 ◼ ► So you've walked into this library. What happens next. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5181">TS</a>]
01:26:26 ◼ ► but then I discover a thing which I did not know which is that you're not allowed to just vote anywhere you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5186">TS</a>]
01:26:32 ◼ ► vote at a very particular place as a whole what is this nonsense I can't just like you can't take my vote here now. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5192">TS</a>]
01:26:39 ◼ ► Now they tell me that they can't take my vote that the vote is based on where you live [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5199">TS</a>]
01:26:43 ◼ ► and they give me the address of the place that I have to go to actually vote and I take a look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5203">TS</a>]
01:26:47 ◼ ► and I know exactly where it is because they're all kind of local spot. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5207">TS</a>]
01:26:50 ◼ ► Yeah and I think well this is exactly the opposite direction that I'm going to go in. Well shrug my shoulders. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5210">TS</a>]
01:26:56 ◼ ► I tried I tried Brady and so I just kept walking on and doing my errands. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5216">TS</a>]
01:27:01 ◼ ► OK So you didn't but that you do Way way the story is not over. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5221">TS</a>]
01:27:04 ◼ ► Oh well there is more as it gets very exciting is amazing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5224">TS</a>]
01:27:08 ◼ ► So I run all of my errands and then I'm thinking I'm going to go back home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5228">TS</a>]
01:27:12 ◼ ► and the place that I have to vote is past where my home is that is going to go home. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5232">TS</a>]
01:27:16 ◼ ► However as you may be aware I now have an apple watch and on my way home I look at the Apple Watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5236">TS</a>]
01:27:23 ◼ ► and frowned because I had not gotten in the amount of walking and motion that I needed to for the day. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5243">TS</a>]
01:27:29 ◼ ► And so then I thought well I guess I might as well walk to the voting station. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5249">TS</a>]
01:27:34 ◼ ► OK so entirely to Philly raining on my Apple Watch. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5254">TS</a>]
01:27:37 ◼ ► I walk past my house and to the polling station and I go in to vote and I tell the lady my name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5257">TS</a>]
01:27:44 ◼ ► and tell her my address and she says you're not listed on this. This polling station you can vote here. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5264">TS</a>]
01:27:52 ◼ ► and I'll tell you the fact you didn't know where to vote tells me you didn't get a polling card sent to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5272">TS</a>]
01:27:58 ◼ ► and if you did have a polling center. It was me that you were on the right name and address on the list. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5278">TS</a>]
01:28:03 ◼ ► Well the thing is I know I filled this out like I try to fill out this paperwork all the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5283">TS</a>]
01:28:09 ◼ ► and I am terrible with physical mail. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5289">TS</a>]
01:28:13 ◼ ► There was always a huge pile of unopened physical mail in my house because I hate it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5293">TS</a>]
01:28:17 ◼ ► Yeah and so it is very possible that there was a polling card in there somewhere but I go to this location [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5297">TS</a>]
01:28:23 ◼ ► and they tell me no my name isn't on this list and then they ask if I moved recently which definitely was the case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5303">TS</a>]
01:28:28 ◼ ► and they tell me oh don't worry about it it's no problem you can go to this third location to vote. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5308">TS</a>]
01:28:33 ◼ ► If that happens to be right around the corner because I basically moved right around the corner. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5313">TS</a>]
01:28:38 ◼ ► Yeah great OK here we go once again. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5318">TS</a>]
01:28:42 ◼ ► I go to a third location to vote only to have them tell me that no my name is not listed there either as a person who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5322">TS</a>]
01:28:51 ◼ ► I ended up walking to three polling stations to try and vote I was not able to vote at any of them but. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5331">TS</a>]
01:28:59 ◼ ► But luckily it doesn't matter because my vote would not affect the election anyway. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5339">TS</a>]
01:29:04 ◼ ► And it worked out well because I was able to close all of my apple watch activity loops. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5344">TS</a>]
01:29:11 ◼ ► That's my story of trying to vote democracy in action. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5351">TS</a>]
01:29:14 ◼ ► I'm not going to ask you you would have voted for because that's no one's business and I don't want to start that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5354">TS</a>]
01:29:19 ◼ ► but you did know who you were going to vote for if you go in or were you just going to look at the paper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5359">TS</a>]
01:29:24 ◼ ► or have you could look at if you go leanings that would have just said well I always vote left or right of center [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5364">TS</a>]
01:29:29 ◼ ► and I just would have picked whoever represented your party of choice. What was what was your plan. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5369">TS</a>]
01:29:35 ◼ ► What the reason why I felt comfortable going in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5375">TS</a>]
01:29:38 ◼ ► and voting even though I knew literally nothing about any of the politics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5378">TS</a>]
01:29:41 ◼ ► or any of the people involved in these politics was that I I had a vote that was a kind of strategic vote that was not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5381">TS</a>]
01:29:49 ◼ ► relevant to the particular policies of any of the parties. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5389">TS</a>]
01:29:52 ◼ ► OK so that's why I could feel like oh I can go vote in good conscience as opposed to just like you know randomly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5392">TS</a>]
01:29:57 ◼ ► scribbling next to a name. So that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5397">TS</a>]
01:30:00 ◼ ► Why have I got a need to watch the news to know which way I was going to do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5400">TS</a>]
01:30:03 ◼ ► and that's not something you want to discuss that's kind of a political thing is now we will eat we'll leave it at that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5403">TS</a>]
01:30:08 ◼ ► the vote was not relevant to Caltex. So did you vote Brady. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5408">TS</a>]
01:30:15 ◼ ► and I come from Australia where voting is compulsory so it is kind of ingrained to me that on election day you vote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5415">TS</a>]
01:30:22 ◼ ► and the luxury of having the choice to not vote is quite novel to me. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5422">TS</a>]
01:30:27 ◼ ► So part of me sometimes thinks Oh I think I might not vote today just because I can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5427">TS</a>]
01:30:33 ◼ ► but that would not go down well in my house. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5433">TS</a>]
01:30:35 ◼ ► My my wife is very thinks it's great that people vote and everyone should vote. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5435">TS</a>]
01:30:41 ◼ ► And if basically any year when I jokingly say I think I'm not going to vote this year she just looks at me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5441">TS</a>]
01:30:46 ◼ ► and says you are voting my friend so that's all I have no choice about voting that she tell you who to vote for. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5446">TS</a>]
01:30:52 ◼ ► No no she doesn't know she doesn't tell me to vote for she's But she just thinks people should vote she thinks is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5452">TS</a>]
01:30:57 ◼ ► important so I kind of I kind of and she is right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5457">TS</a>]
01:31:01 ◼ ► So but I do it more because of her pressure than than wanting to make a difference. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5461">TS</a>]
01:31:06 ◼ ► I live in quite a safe city as well so I feel I can have a huge effect in what I would do anyway. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5466">TS</a>]
01:31:14 ◼ ► We're always waiting for the person in power or against them but I did have a funny story. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5474">TS</a>]
01:31:20 ◼ ► So to expand on what greatest explained the one thing he didn't include because he doesn't seem to realize this is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5480">TS</a>]
01:31:26 ◼ ► if you are on the electoral roll about a day or two before the election you receive a polling card with your name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5486">TS</a>]
01:31:31 ◼ ► and address details about where to vote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5491">TS</a>]
01:31:34 ◼ ► and also your voting registration number I think you have some code number associated with you. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5494">TS</a>]
01:31:40 ◼ ► I am aware of that because I receive those before. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5500">TS</a>]
01:31:42 ◼ ► OK I had mine and basically you can you don't have to have it with you they can tick you off the list without it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5502">TS</a>]
01:31:48 ◼ ► but if you have your pollen count it makes life pretty easy because I just take you cut off the tick you off the list [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5508">TS</a>]
01:31:54 ◼ ► So I went along to the local church churches often host the election which I find so funny with so separate. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5514">TS</a>]
01:32:01 ◼ ► One of the three places I went to was a church you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5521">TS</a>]
01:32:03 ◼ ► and the other one wasn't explicitly a church it was officially religiously affiliated I just find that mind blowing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5523">TS</a>]
01:32:10 ◼ ► As an American every time I've done it to they not do that in America public is not held in churches depending on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5530">TS</a>]
01:32:16 ◼ ► state there may be states that do do it in churches but at least at least where I grew up it was always schools [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5536">TS</a>]
01:32:22 ◼ ► and we have a much stricter separation of church [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5542">TS</a>]
01:32:24 ◼ ► and state so the walking into a church just feels so weird on election day. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5544">TS</a>]
01:32:29 ◼ ► It's usually like a church roller aside it's not usually you know you don't like walk down the aisle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5549">TS</a>]
01:32:33 ◼ ► and I haven't put things on the altar where you put you know you have to vote on the altar in the moment of handing you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5553">TS</a>]
01:32:39 ◼ ► So I don't want to have the feeling that some crazy religious thing it's just convenient because most towns have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5559">TS</a>]
01:32:43 ◼ ► church and they usually have a hole where you can do it makes one hundred percent sense from a logistical perspective. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5563">TS</a>]
01:32:49 ◼ ► They're so near I turned up at this church my wife [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5569">TS</a>]
01:32:52 ◼ ► and I with the voting just outside the church at the gate to the church there's all the political people hoping to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5572">TS</a>]
01:32:57 ◼ ► know give you a piece of paper or to smile at you and hope you vote for them. I'm used to that that's normal. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5577">TS</a>]
01:33:04 ◼ ► I already know how I'm going to vote and I walk through the church grounds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5584">TS</a>]
01:33:07 ◼ ► but in this vestibule area there's this guy in a suit and he says may I have your bias in your polling place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5587">TS</a>]
01:33:13 ◼ ► and I'm like OK well you know I mean the polling booth now his official this is obviously part of the process. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5593">TS</a>]
01:33:18 ◼ ► So I showed him my polling card and my wife shows her public and he starts writing down our numbers on this list. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5598">TS</a>]
01:33:24 ◼ ► Something you know I carry the you know the checking of the numbers and stuff. This is how it's all working. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5604">TS</a>]
01:33:29 ◼ ► Latest something strikes me as wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5609">TS</a>]
01:33:32 ◼ ► and then I notice like that he's wearing like a resent for one of the political parties [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5612">TS</a>]
01:33:37 ◼ ► and I'm like Who are you where are you from and he doesn't answer. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5617">TS</a>]
01:33:42 ◼ ► He's taking all this information and I ask him again like a bit more family doesn't tell me. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5622">TS</a>]
01:33:46 ◼ ► And then once he's got the numbers and written them down I ask him a third time. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5626">TS</a>]
01:33:50 ◼ ► Welcome to creating a sane really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5630">TS</a>]
01:33:52 ◼ ► but by this by this point it's probably noticeable that I'm unhappy I say Who are you where are you from. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5632">TS</a>]
01:33:58 ◼ ► And he says he's from this political. He's just taking information now this is normal they do they do this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5638">TS</a>]
01:34:03 ◼ ► Other political parties do this for their own research purposes and that's fine I accept that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5643">TS</a>]
01:34:08 ◼ ► but I felt like I was a bit tricked because this guy wasn't outside with all the other people he was like in like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5648">TS</a>]
01:34:14 ◼ ► the Holy of Holies he was in that he was in the church he was in he was like really close to the polling booths. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5654">TS</a>]
01:34:21 ◼ ► I don't remember what I said but I did I was really unhappy there is nothing I could do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5661">TS</a>]
01:34:24 ◼ ► and I just walked in sort of shaking my head and saying I think this is a bit out of order [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5664">TS</a>]
01:34:27 ◼ ► and I walk in two steps later this official guy because now I'm in the room where all the polling booths comes up to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5667">TS</a>]
01:34:33 ◼ ► and says Excuse me sir are you unhappy with what just happened. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5673">TS</a>]
01:34:36 ◼ ► He obviously knew something was wrong and he obviously heard or saw this this incident [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5676">TS</a>]
01:34:40 ◼ ► and I said as a matter of fact yes I'm really displaced. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5680">TS</a>]
01:34:44 ◼ ► I thought that guy was part of the polling process I wouldn't have given him my numbers are really just great he did I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5684">TS</a>]
01:34:48 ◼ ► don't think he should be there. He should be out with all the others and this guy said You're right I'm sorry. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5688">TS</a>]
01:34:54 ◼ ► I think he was on that earlier when it was raining and he shouldn't be there and I said Well go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5694">TS</a>]
01:34:58 ◼ ► and make sure he crosses my number off his list because I don't want him having my details [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5698">TS</a>]
01:35:02 ◼ ► and my wife is I really embarrassed says I don't care he couldn't you know she just wants me to shut up because. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5702">TS</a>]
01:35:08 ◼ ► Because now she thinks I'm creating a sane right. I'm not creating a sane. Of course not of course not I am being fair. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5708">TS</a>]
01:35:13 ◼ ► Right so he then goes off and like do it with this guy obviously so I'm all riled up now and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5713">TS</a>]
01:35:19 ◼ ► and then I go up to the person who is supposed to cross me off the list and they give me my papers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5719">TS</a>]
01:35:23 ◼ ► and they're like really apologetic they will feel really bad about what's happened I think I think that basically the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5723">TS</a>]
01:35:27 ◼ ► people running the polling station know that I've stuffed up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5727">TS</a>]
01:35:30 ◼ ► and they're probably worried I'm going to kick up a huge scene and get them in trouble so they'll come up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5730">TS</a>]
01:35:35 ◼ ► and apologize to me and ask me to smooth things over and make some joke jokes with them and I went voted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5735">TS</a>]
01:35:40 ◼ ► and then I went back outside and he was a bit further away from the door at this point and he said sorry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5740">TS</a>]
01:35:45 ◼ ► and I said no problems have a nice day but I think he knew I was job and happy about the whole thing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5745">TS</a>]
01:35:50 ◼ ► So my voting experience of kind of you know exercising democracy was not like you know the sunny pleasant thing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5750">TS</a>]
01:35:57 ◼ ► could have been it was me being all right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5757">TS</a>]
01:36:00 ◼ ► As funny and then my wife's a shake and a headache I can't believe I can't believe it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5760">TS</a>]
01:36:06 ◼ ► You know Abraham Lincoln you know I believe in democracy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5766">TS</a>]
01:36:09 ◼ ► and I believe in my right that's it I'm carrying on like unlike some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5769">TS</a>]
01:36:12 ◼ ► when really I was just a bit riled up by some guy named McGreal Brady Haran defender of the sanctity of elections you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5772">TS</a>]
01:36:21 ◼ ► know that there are two things that I think are important sensitive elections and the privacy of data [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5781">TS</a>]
01:36:25 ◼ ► and this guy like smashing both of them in my face so it was a perfect storm and then I think I can't MCO [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5785">TS</a>]
01:36:32 ◼ ► but I was firm and you know my was really lovely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5792">TS</a>]
01:36:35 ◼ ► and would have you know I wouldn't disagree with anyone I have a conflict so I thought it sorry for him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5795">TS</a>]
01:36:43 ◼ ► And look on the drive home saying I'm sorry I just think it's you know I think it's important because Barack and I. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5803">TS</a>]
01:36:48 ◼ ► But whatever. I presume you don't want to reveal who you voted for. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5808">TS</a>]
01:36:51 ◼ ► No just because it just gets people all riled up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5811">TS</a>]
01:36:53 ◼ ► and it's like it's a relevant headline doesn't it doesn't really matter and I and also I don't care that much. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5813">TS</a>]
01:36:59 ◼ ► I respect everyone's view no matter how extreme or liberal or left of center [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5819">TS</a>]
01:37:04 ◼ ► or whatever dislike whatever that's just but I think if everyone just votes what they think is best best for them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5824">TS</a>]
01:37:10 ◼ ► and their friends and their people and the people they care about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5830">TS</a>]
01:37:12 ◼ ► and all the people they choose to care about it will work itself out. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5832">TS</a>]
01:37:17 ◼ ► But that leads to the next thing doesn't it doesn't work itself out. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5837">TS</a>]
01:37:20 ◼ ► Yes it is the system fair again for people who are British. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5840">TS</a>]
01:37:24 ◼ ► Sorry to rake over stuff you already know other than in the show I groaned I watch the news. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5844">TS</a>]
01:37:30 ◼ ► Sorry to rake over stuff you already know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5850">TS</a>]
01:37:31 ◼ ► but there have been a few little controversies to do with the selection to do with who got in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5851">TS</a>]
01:37:36 ◼ ► and who got how many votes obviously I don't know anything about any of the controversies that happened during the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5856">TS</a>]
01:37:45 ◼ ► but the morning the morning after basically I thought oh I do want to see the result like I'm just curious to see how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5865">TS</a>]
01:37:49 ◼ ► this worked out and I was pretty riled by the way things turned out and I. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5869">TS</a>]
01:38:00 ◼ ► Also want to put my own little disclaimer in here which is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5880">TS</a>]
01:38:03 ◼ ► when I do my videos I try very hard to never mention particular political parties yet because people's brains just turn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5883">TS</a>]
01:38:12 ◼ ► off the instant you mention particular political parties and they they stop thinking about it in terms of fairness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5892">TS</a>]
01:38:18 ◼ ► and they start thinking about it in terms of like their sports team winning. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5898">TS</a>]
01:38:21 ◼ ► Yeah and the only thing they care about is their sports team winning. Yeah. So there we are. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5901">TS</a>]
01:38:25 ◼ ► I'm about to talk about particular political parties [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5905">TS</a>]
01:38:28 ◼ ► but I guarantee you dear listener I could barely know less about their particular policies. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5908">TS</a>]
01:38:35 ◼ ► I am not advocating really for or against anybody. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5915">TS</a>]
01:38:39 ◼ ► I just want to talk about it in the abstract [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5919">TS</a>]
01:38:41 ◼ ► but unfortunately since we're talking about a particular election we can't have this conversation in terms of gorillas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5921">TS</a>]
01:38:49 ◼ ► We have to talk about the particular parties in the way things worked out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5929">TS</a>]
01:38:52 ◼ ► and unfortunately also one of the parties you're about to talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5932">TS</a>]
01:38:56 ◼ ► and I suspect almost sound like you're going to sort of say they got a raw deal is the most controversial part of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5936">TS</a>]
01:39:03 ◼ ► election. The reason this election is particularly galling. It is. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5943">TS</a>]
01:39:10 ◼ ► While I still think that America has everything you could want to go wrong with elections America basically does the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5950">TS</a>]
01:39:17 ◼ ► U.K. Is a particularly interesting example of how First Past the Post voting can go wrong. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5957">TS</a>]
01:39:25 ◼ ► Yes because of the way that this system happens to be set up and because the U.K. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5965">TS</a>]
01:39:34 ◼ ► For various reasons has been able to hang on to having multiple parties in a way that the United States [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5974">TS</a>]
01:39:42 ◼ ► and lots of other places that that use First Past the Post don't. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5982">TS</a>]
01:39:45 ◼ ► So in the US You always get a kind of like oh it's Republicans or Democrats [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5985">TS</a>]
01:39:49 ◼ ► and it's about evenly split because that's the stable state of the system. But the U.K. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5989">TS</a>]
01:39:54 ◼ ► Still exists in a kind of unstable state where there are multiple parties. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/5994">TS</a>]
01:40:00 ◼ ► And that ends up in just absolutely bizarre results. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6000">TS</a>]
01:40:04 ◼ ► The short thing that I think is really quite appalling is if you take a look at the votes. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6004">TS</a>]
01:40:10 ◼ ► So the party that won were the conservatives. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6010">TS</a>]
01:40:14 ◼ ► Yes and I'm looking at some pie charts here I'll put them in the show not on a nationwide level. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6014">TS</a>]
01:40:19 ◼ ► Thirty seven percent of people voted for the conservatives. Yet now because the U.K. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6019">TS</a>]
01:40:28 ◼ ► Is is divided into a bunch of constituencies the way this works is the election isn't really taking place on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6028">TS</a>]
01:40:36 ◼ ► national level. It's six hundred some odd local elections for who is going to be the member of parliament of the Shire. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6036">TS</a>]
01:40:45 ◼ ► Right so they are going to pick their M.P. and Their M.P. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6045">TS</a>]
01:40:49 ◼ ► Is then sent off to Westminster to represent the shire in Parliament. M.P. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6049">TS</a>]
01:40:54 ◼ ► Is that member of parliament a member of our you have his constituency so every every constituency is saying we want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6054">TS</a>]
01:41:00 ◼ ► send Billy blokes from the Conservative Party to be a member of parliament for the next five years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6060">TS</a>]
01:41:06 ◼ ► or we want to send Jane Smith from the Liberal Democrat Party. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6066">TS</a>]
01:41:10 ◼ ► We want to send her to a member of parliament for the next five years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6070">TS</a>]
01:41:14 ◼ ► and older people then come together six hundred fifty or however many. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6074">TS</a>]
01:41:18 ◼ ► And it's based on who has the weight of numbers there decide who forms the government. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6078">TS</a>]
01:41:23 ◼ ► Then please go off to Parliament. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6083">TS</a>]
01:41:25 ◼ ► And if one party is able to get a majority of the seats in parliament they have complete control over the government. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6085">TS</a>]
01:41:35 ◼ ► Yes they basically get to make laws and the reference here for Americans. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6095">TS</a>]
01:41:40 ◼ ► The reason this is a little tricky to explain is that the U.K. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6100">TS</a>]
01:41:44 ◼ ► System does not have the same kind of checks and balances that the US system has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6104">TS</a>]
01:41:49 ◼ ► and I'm not I'm not saying that to say that it's worse or better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6109">TS</a>]
01:41:51 ◼ ► but just that it's different so that the thing that blows most Americans minds is that the the prime minister is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6111">TS</a>]
01:41:58 ◼ ► the same. As the president in Britain you don't vote directly for prime minister. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6118">TS</a>]
01:42:05 ◼ ► You are just voting for your local Member of Parliament [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6125">TS</a>]
01:42:08 ◼ ► and if your party gets the majority of seats in parliament they basically get to pick who is going to be prime minister [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6128">TS</a>]
01:42:16 ◼ ► who just happens to be one of those members of parliament and they decide write him like a man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6136">TS</a>]
01:42:21 ◼ ► or woman their boss who just yet who just happens to be one of the members of parliament [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6141">TS</a>]
01:42:25 ◼ ► and this is why from an American perspective you can get really bizarre things that happen where no election occurs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6145">TS</a>]
01:42:33 ◼ ► and that's because the party in charge has decided oh we don't like how this guy is doing things we're going to vote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6153">TS</a>]
01:42:38 ◼ ► him out just amongst ourselves and put somebody else back in place. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6158">TS</a>]
01:42:41 ◼ ► That can happen and I understand that's bizarre to Americans [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6161">TS</a>]
01:42:44 ◼ ► but just pick saying saying we're catering to Americans so much here I think we also need to point out during in one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6164">TS</a>]
01:42:51 ◼ ► thousand nine percent of cases during the election it's not a mystery who the prime minister will be you know ahead of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6171">TS</a>]
01:42:58 ◼ ► time. In fact the election is quite presidential in that way and although you're voting for. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6178">TS</a>]
01:43:04 ◼ ► You're a member of parliament your little man or woman to go off and represent you. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6184">TS</a>]
01:43:08 ◼ ► Most people don't even know who their representative is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6188">TS</a>]
01:43:10 ◼ ► and they just go into the polling booth look for the name of the party you know who is associated with the prime [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6190">TS</a>]
01:43:16 ◼ ► ministerial candidate they prefer. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6196">TS</a>]
01:43:18 ◼ ► And I just took that person's name so it is a battle to be between two prime ministers but yeah it is. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6198">TS</a>]
01:43:25 ◼ ► It is finally back where it's like the practicalities of it because yes it is almost run as though it is a presidential [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6205">TS</a>]
01:43:32 ◼ ► but there is the actual mechanics of it kind of have nothing to do with that it's very it's it's a strange an interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6212">TS</a>]
01:43:41 ◼ ► and short of it is if you get fifty one percent of the seats in parliament because you also pick the Prime Minister you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6221">TS</a>]
01:43:48 ◼ ► don't have any kind of opposition. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6228">TS</a>]
01:43:50 ◼ ► You just get to decide what it is you want to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6230">TS</a>]
01:43:53 ◼ ► and you get to pass those laws for the most part please people don't email me with with lots of kind of stuff but like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6233">TS</a>]
01:44:00 ◼ ► Sounding it off ninety five percent of the time that's the case fifty one percent you're in charge. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6240">TS</a>]
01:44:06 ◼ ► The weird thing is because of the way First Past the Post works because of the way the local constituencies work. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6246">TS</a>]
01:44:15 ◼ ► The end result is that thirty seven percent of the voters for the Conservative Party happen to win fifty one percent of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6255">TS</a>]
01:44:27 ◼ ► Yeah but then that also means because the thirty seven percent of the voters got fifty one percent of the seats. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6267">TS</a>]
01:44:33 ◼ ► They also basically have one hundred percent of the power in the government [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6273">TS</a>]
01:44:40 ◼ ► and this is one of the things that I have a real problem with is allowing a plurality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6280">TS</a>]
01:44:48 ◼ ► but not a majority of citizens basically to dictate the direction of the entire country. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6288">TS</a>]
01:44:56 ◼ ► That's that's really what kind of sticks in my craw most more than some of the other things that we will talk about is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6296">TS</a>]
01:45:03 ◼ ► is this very notion that the largest group gets to act as though they are a majority even though they are they are by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6303">TS</a>]
01:45:11 ◼ ► no means a majority. That is a frustrating system and I think that that is very undemocratic. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6311">TS</a>]
01:45:19 ◼ ► Thing is like I said I know you're a big expert on this and I don't feel particularly passionate about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6319">TS</a>]
01:45:24 ◼ ► and I will say I don't really like First Past the Post voting but that's what we've got. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6324">TS</a>]
01:45:30 ◼ ► I think the thing here is there are actually two there there are two arguments going on here at the same time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6330">TS</a>]
01:45:37 ◼ ► and I know you're aware of the subtlety but I'll point this out anyway. No no please don't. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6337">TS</a>]
01:45:41 ◼ ► There is a debate about what voting system should be used in the each of these constituencies to choose our John Doe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6341">TS</a>]
01:45:47 ◼ ► or Sally Jones to go off to parliament and that's an argument to have. Who's going to represent us. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6347">TS</a>]
01:45:54 ◼ ► How are we going to decide our individual representative to represent me here in the hills and you day. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6354">TS</a>]
01:46:00 ◼ ► Down in the city and stuff right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6360">TS</a>]
01:46:02 ◼ ► But then the other argument is the parliamentary system should we have these constituents [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6362">TS</a>]
01:46:07 ◼ ► and be represented in this geographical way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6367">TS</a>]
01:46:10 ◼ ► or should we be represented by some committee that that represents all their views and how we all want to vote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6370">TS</a>]
01:46:19 ◼ ► and it seems most people like the constituency model. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6379">TS</a>]
01:46:22 ◼ ► I agree that when you talk to people people value the idea of a local representative. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6382">TS</a>]
01:46:29 ◼ ► Yep so if we're going to have that system I think we're always going to have this problem where you can do very well. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6389">TS</a>]
01:46:38 ◼ ► Let's just say that this is this party that the called the U.K. Independence Party Ukip in the U.K. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6398">TS</a>]
01:46:44 ◼ ► And what happened in this election and it's one of the things that's being raised is they go about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6404">TS</a>]
01:46:48 ◼ ► or they get ten percent they got thirteen percent of the vague [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6408">TS</a>]
01:46:51 ◼ ► or thirteen percent of the National Right now they're a very controversial party because they are to do with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6411">TS</a>]
01:46:55 ◼ ► immigration and their nationalist party but all of us thought they got thirteen percent of the vote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6415">TS</a>]
01:47:00 ◼ ► and they only got one seat in the parliament which turns out to be point two percent of Parliament yet. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6420">TS</a>]
01:47:08 ◼ ► So that's that's the direct disparity to compare and everyone thinks that's very unfair and maybe they're right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6428">TS</a>]
01:47:15 ◼ ► and I think Grey thinks that's unfair and maybe he's right. I'm not entirely convinced that's unfair. Tell me why. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6435">TS</a>]
01:47:23 ◼ ► Well the thing is they spread themselves thin and then make a bit of noise everywhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6443">TS</a>]
01:47:30 ◼ ► and they going to get some votes everywhere. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6450">TS</a>]
01:47:31 ◼ ► But that doesn't mean there's no there is only one constituency in which the majority of the people in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6451">TS</a>]
01:47:38 ◼ ► constituency. The plurality of the people of Iowa person let me tell you a story. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6458">TS</a>]
01:47:43 ◼ ► Just to be clear though they didn't win a majority of the seats even there they want to plurality of the seats. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6463">TS</a>]
01:47:49 ◼ ► Let me tell you a story you tell me a story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6469">TS</a>]
01:47:53 ◼ ► and nineteen seventy four Your one of your most beloved countries Neverland. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6473">TS</a>]
01:48:00 ◼ ► So all and whatever you want to call them that's called Neverland's going to make you happiest. That's perfectly fine. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6480">TS</a>]
01:48:05 ◼ ► Benevolence. Whatever you want they'll be like Holland too. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6485">TS</a>]
01:48:08 ◼ ► They had an awesome soccer team in nineteen seventy four and at the World Cup of soccer. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6488">TS</a>]
01:48:15 ◼ ► They would they set the tournament alight and everyone was really excited by them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6495">TS</a>]
01:48:18 ◼ ► and it looked like they were going to win and they got to the final and they stumbled at the final hurdle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6498">TS</a>]
01:48:23 ◼ ► and they lost the final to Germany I think it was held in Germany so that probably gave the Germans an advantage anyway. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6503">TS</a>]
01:48:29 ◼ ► They lost. Very said the next year nine hundred seventy eight they were still very good. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6509">TS</a>]
01:48:35 ◼ ► People thought maybe they'll do it this time. Again they got to the final they got right to the end. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6515">TS</a>]
01:48:41 ◼ ► And again they were really unlucky and they lost the final. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6521">TS</a>]
01:48:45 ◼ ► Now kind of the bridesmaids again and then in two thousand and ten they finally met they made it to the final again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6525">TS</a>]
01:48:53 ◼ ► and finally was this going to be their moment made it all the way to the end. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6533">TS</a>]
01:48:57 ◼ ► Just lost the final to spine one nail they lost. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6537">TS</a>]
01:49:02 ◼ ► Now this feels to me under a great model we would say you've done so well so many times in so many different countries [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6542">TS</a>]
01:49:09 ◼ ► and so many different tournaments against so many different people. Let's just give you a World Cup trophy. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6549">TS</a>]
01:49:14 ◼ ► I know you've never actually won one. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6554">TS</a>]
01:49:15 ◼ ► You've never actually won it but you've done so well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6555">TS</a>]
01:49:19 ◼ ► and you've proven yourself to be a good soccer team we're going to give you a trophy anyway I think the same thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6559">TS</a>]
01:49:24 ◼ ► applies to the selection if you keep it going to put a candidate and all the six hundred odd states [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6564">TS</a>]
01:49:30 ◼ ► and you know get ten percent of the vote in that one and ten percent of the vote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6570">TS</a>]
01:49:34 ◼ ► and that one in fifteen percent of the vote and that one and they keep doing well but they never win. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6574">TS</a>]
01:49:40 ◼ ► Are we going to say you know what you did so well get over so many states that even though you never won. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6580">TS</a>]
01:49:46 ◼ ► Let's just give you a whole bunch of seats in the Parliament anyway this I think is an interesting argument [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6586">TS</a>]
01:49:50 ◼ ► and this I feel like is the technicality argument where you're right they basically didn't win any of the elections [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6590">TS</a>]
01:49:58 ◼ ► and again people. These don't e-mail us. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6598">TS</a>]
01:50:00 ◼ ► We are very aware of some of the complicating factors like Ukip running a candidate in almost every constituency [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6600">TS</a>]
01:50:07 ◼ ► and not every party does it that way so maybe the reasons why their votes are R. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6607">TS</a>]
01:50:12 ◼ ► Seem larger than they should be like that we're aware of all of this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6612">TS</a>]
01:50:17 ◼ ► when you talk about winning a local constituency my view on it is the constituencies are the exact same problem as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6617">TS</a>]
01:50:27 ◼ ► national election but just smaller. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6627">TS</a>]
01:50:30 ◼ ► The whole problem in my view is the idea which seems comical if you think about it that a single person is going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6630">TS</a>]
01:50:39 ◼ ► represent in any meaningful way the views of a large group of other people this is no longer about voting then it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6639">TS</a>]
01:50:47 ◼ ► that this is actually about the whole parliamentary system. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6647">TS</a>]
01:50:50 ◼ ► Like to like how we represented we represented but because the Everything's going to come down to that problem. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6650">TS</a>]
01:50:57 ◼ ► The president of the United States comes. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6657">TS</a>]
01:50:58 ◼ ► Then to that problem the president is an interesting case because the president in large extent is a kind of veto like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6658">TS</a>]
01:51:04 ◼ ► that is the president's primary power. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6664">TS</a>]
01:51:07 ◼ ► Put it that put that aside for a moment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6667">TS</a>]
01:51:09 ◼ ► but if you zoom down to any single constituency I looked up the numbers for the constituency in which I live has voted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6669">TS</a>]
01:51:17 ◼ ► for the same party for as long as it has ever existed and almost always by a sixty percent margin. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6677">TS</a>]
01:51:25 ◼ ► That right there is the fundamental problem that the idea that that person or whoever that party happens to run. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6685">TS</a>]
01:51:33 ◼ ► Every single time for more than half a century for for more than twice my lifetime that that party completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6693">TS</a>]
01:51:44 ◼ ► and utterly represents the interests of this particular section of London. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6704">TS</a>]
01:51:49 ◼ ► That doesn't make sense and I don't think that it is it is fair. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6709">TS</a>]
01:51:54 ◼ ► And in this case at the very least in this constituency it is a majority and the majority of the voters. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6714">TS</a>]
01:52:00 ◼ ► If you are selecting that candidate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6720">TS</a>]
01:52:02 ◼ ► but it still means that for all of time the other forty percent of people who live in that constituency never have any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6722">TS</a>]
01:52:09 ◼ ► influence or representation at the national level [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6729">TS</a>]
01:52:13 ◼ ► but there are they aren't the only true alternative the only totally fair alternative is that each of the sixty five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6733">TS</a>]
01:52:20 ◼ ► or seventy million or have many people live here in the country have one representative for them and we have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6740">TS</a>]
01:52:26 ◼ ► and we have a parliament that has millions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6746">TS</a>]
01:52:27 ◼ ► and millions of people in it so that we are overrepresented on every vote on every law you have to you have to at some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6747">TS</a>]
01:52:33 ◼ ► point. But here's the thing that argument is the direct democracy argument right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6753">TS</a>]
01:52:40 ◼ ► OK Do you want to have a direct democracy where the people vote directly on the laws. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6760">TS</a>]
01:52:46 ◼ ► Well I think it you can make pretty convincing arguments that that's not a good idea. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6766">TS</a>]
01:52:51 ◼ ► But but there is an enormous degree of difference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6771">TS</a>]
01:52:54 ◼ ► or there's an enormous amount of space in which there are options between direct democracy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6774">TS</a>]
01:53:00 ◼ ► and a single representative per however many tens of thousands of people are in each constituency. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6780">TS</a>]
01:53:07 ◼ ► and this is this is one of the reasons why I made those voting videos to show that there are several systems that allow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6787">TS</a>]
01:53:15 ◼ ► people to still have local representatives which they value. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6795">TS</a>]
01:53:20 ◼ ► I think over value but it's what people want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6800">TS</a>]
01:53:24 ◼ ► and still have national parliamentary results that better reflect the actual will of the people. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6804">TS</a>]
01:53:31 ◼ ► That is my issue is that I think when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6811">TS</a>]
01:53:36 ◼ ► when you look at like I'm looking at these pie charts on my screen right now which would show where the thirty seven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6816">TS</a>]
01:53:40 ◼ ► percent blue for the votes which end up with fifty one percent in terms of representation. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6820">TS</a>]
01:53:45 ◼ ► And then I mean it's not even just Ukip it's I mean looking at this looking at this chart right you have Ukip had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6825">TS</a>]
01:53:53 ◼ ► thirteen percent of the vote they end up with less than one percent of the seats. The Liberal Democrats. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6833">TS</a>]
01:54:00 ◼ ► Eight percent of the vote they get one percent of the seats the Greens got four percent of the vote they get a point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6840">TS</a>]
01:54:05 ◼ ► two percent of the seats like that to me when you look at that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6845">TS</a>]
01:54:11 ◼ ► I don't care who the parties are I don't care what they stand for. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6851">TS</a>]
01:54:15 ◼ ► I think this is results where a third of the people end up with one hundred percent of the control [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6855">TS</a>]
01:54:23 ◼ ► and sixty six percent of the people end up with no control and no meaningful representation. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6863">TS</a>]
01:54:30 ◼ ► That deal legitimises the entire process in my mind it makes it hard to say why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6870">TS</a>]
01:54:35 ◼ ► and why does why does this ruling government have legitimacy when only thirty seven percent of the people voted for it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6875">TS</a>]
01:54:42 ◼ ► I find it very difficult for a government to make a convincing argument why they should have one hundred percent of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6882">TS</a>]
01:54:49 ◼ ► The reason why I don't like local representation so much is because if you control where those borders are drawn you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6889">TS</a>]
01:55:00 ◼ ► You know if if someone said to me I get to redraw these boundaries you know I could I could instead make it an almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6900">TS</a>]
01:55:08 ◼ ► completely different government and I could put together a coalition of any other government that I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6908">TS</a>]
01:55:13 ◼ ► and that's one of the reasons why I think the local representation thing is just overvalued people people don't realize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6913">TS</a>]
01:55:19 ◼ ► how much where those boundaries are drawn wildly affects the elections before we come on to the cause. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6919">TS</a>]
01:55:28 ◼ ► Again that's a separate issue and I know the two are tied together because having power gives you. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6928">TS</a>]
01:55:32 ◼ ► But let's leave the issue of boundaries aside and manipulating boundaries. Let's just stick for a bit longer. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6932">TS</a>]
01:55:38 ◼ ► Yeah the U.K. Luckily doesn't really have that problem the boundary conditions are pretty good in the U.K. OK. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6938">TS</a>]
01:55:43 ◼ ► But it but where those boundaries end up still does change the election. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6943">TS</a>]
01:55:46 ◼ ► Yes OK let's put that to one side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6946">TS</a>]
01:55:49 ◼ ► and let's talk a bit for bit longer about this whole issue of Tories only the Conservative Party sorry thirty seven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6949">TS</a>]
01:55:56 ◼ ► percent of the vote and they're in power and these are the ones you know. Imagine a power. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6956">TS</a>]
01:56:00 ◼ ► A woman that did represent over voting like you know a thirty seven percent. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6960">TS</a>]
01:56:06 ◼ ► and utter quagmire a log jammed mess that would be is there not something to be said for the FF for the argument that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6966">TS</a>]
01:56:18 ◼ ► you need to engineer the system so that whoever you decide is the winner whoever does win based on whatever voting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6978">TS</a>]
01:56:25 ◼ ► system you use is then given some power is given some potency because if we had a committee in Westminster in London [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6985">TS</a>]
01:56:32 ◼ ► deciding our laws that was based on this make up of thirty seven percent thirty odd percent thirty percent they would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6992">TS</a>]
01:56:39 ◼ ► just never get anything done. Don't you need to say OK for better or worse this party has won the election. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/6999">TS</a>]
01:56:45 ◼ ► Let's just give them some power for five years because otherwise the companies can't govern without power. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/7005">TS</a>]
01:56:51 ◼ ► You cannot have some wishy washy committee to come back to the World Cup of soccer. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/7011">TS</a>]
01:56:56 ◼ ► Can you imagine if they all played all their games for a month [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/7016">TS</a>]
01:56:58 ◼ ► and then everyone said well we think we think Spain were thirty three percent the best team in the Netherlands with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/7018">TS</a>]
01:57:05 ◼ ► twenty eight percent the best a minestrone were five percent and England were two percent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/7025">TS</a>]
01:57:09 ◼ ► and they just carved up the gold trophy and gave everyone a piece of the trophy. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/7029">TS</a>]
01:57:14 ◼ ► Now to be ridiculous you have to you have to have your competition and then say OK one person gets the trophy. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/7034">TS</a>]
01:57:20 ◼ ► One person gets the power and for the next four years or five years or whatever it is you are the champions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/7040">TS</a>]
01:57:26 ◼ ► or you are the government you have the power. And that's come back again in five years and do it all again. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/7046">TS</a>]
01:57:33 ◼ ► However this is the situation the reason why it really bothers me is you're talking about the national level you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/7053">TS</a>]
01:57:42 ◼ ► talking about rules that absolutely affect everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/7062">TS</a>]
01:57:47 ◼ ► and I never understand this argument of we just need to play we just need to just do stuff we need to just be able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/7067">TS</a>]
01:57:54 ◼ ► get stuff done. Even if it is very clear that people don't agree with each other. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/7074">TS</a>]
01:58:00 ◼ ► And at the at the at the national level [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/7080">TS</a>]
01:58:04 ◼ ► when you're talking about things like you talk about things like national defense you're talking about national [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/7084">TS</a>]
01:58:10 ◼ ► infrastructure national health care all of these vastly important issues. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/7090">TS</a>]
01:58:16 ◼ ► I don't understand the argument that if we if we can't get people to agree on these very important issues we should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/7096">TS</a>]
01:58:24 ◼ ► just let whoever happens to be the largest group but not a majority just decide everything. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/7104">TS</a>]
01:58:31 ◼ ► I don't see why people are so allergic to compromise because sometimes compromise doesn't work like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/7111">TS</a>]
01:58:38 ◼ ► Like if you're there let me ask you something Brady right here. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/7118">TS</a>]
01:58:42 ◼ ► Here's here's the thing here's the reverse scenario because I think what happens is people look at the current system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/7122">TS</a>]
01:58:49 ◼ ► and then kind of back into reasons why they think it's good. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/7129">TS</a>]
01:58:54 ◼ ► But but imagine I think about it from a classroom scenario and the thought you have you know twenty kids in a room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/7134">TS</a>]
01:59:03 ◼ ► and you say OK kids here's what we're going to do we're going to let you decide. Some of the rules for the classroom. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/7143">TS</a>]
01:59:11 ◼ ► Now the first thing we have to decide though is how how are we going to decide rules that will affect everybody. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/7151">TS</a>]
01:59:18 ◼ ► How many votes do you think we need in order to make a rule that is going to affect everybody. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/7158">TS</a>]
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02:00:31 ◼ ► Right but currently the Conservative Party does not need to compromise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/7231">TS</a>]
02:00:36 ◼ ► and negotiate with anybody because they have a majority of seats so they have to be one hundred percent of the power. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/7236">TS</a>]
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02:00:53 ◼ ► but you know you know what I'm saying here right. Yeah they they are rounding it off. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/7253">TS</a>]
02:00:59 ◼ ► Yeah they have a huge amount of control. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/7259">TS</a>]
02:01:02 ◼ ► Yes there are always things around the edges with these systems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/7262">TS</a>]
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02:01:32 ◼ ► and it's not like they're all falling to pieces and they can't get anything done. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/7292">TS</a>]
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02:02:55 ◼ ► party should have more leeway. So I do like that in a parliamentary system. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/7375">TS</a>]
02:02:59 ◼ ► I just don't like it when it is a small number of voters who have ended up basically because of borders [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/7379">TS</a>]
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02:03:11 ◼ ► and then act as though the majority of citizens have actually voted them in which is not at all the case. OK. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/7391">TS</a>]
02:03:17 ◼ ► Everyone who voted in the U.K. Election. Well this is not true. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/7397">TS</a>]
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02:03:55 ◼ ► situation where they don't need to compromise. No what I was saying is you're being you're being quite. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/7435">TS</a>]
02:04:00 ◼ ► Academic about how parliament works so let me be academic about how the voters work for a minute [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/7440">TS</a>]
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02:04:08 ◼ ► OK Could you say that the reason we have say thirteen percent Ukip is because people vote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/7448">TS</a>]
02:04:19 ◼ ► and don't like kind of feel like we're not going to get in any way. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/7459">TS</a>]
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02:06:24 ◼ ► How do I know what's not working. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/7584">TS</a>]
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02:07:01 ◼ ► the building don't represent the percentage of the votes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/7621">TS</a>]
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02:07:17 ◼ ► but I don't think I'm not sure what you're asking here. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/7637">TS</a>]
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02:07:44 ◼ ► policies to try to woo Ukip voters so that is correct you are quite right I agree with the I don't know if you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/7664">TS</a>]
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02:08:00 ◼ ► What this says to me if if the the party that's governing is being shaped by this thirteen percent of the vote that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/7680">TS</a>]
02:08:08 ◼ ► can't go then even though they haven't got the bums on seats they are shaping the debate and the way we're governed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/7688">TS</a>]
02:08:17 ◼ ► Somehow a bit of it happens to be sort of like a compromise but it's like a crappy second order effect. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/7697">TS</a>]
02:08:25 ◼ ► You would never design the system intentionally to work this way. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/7705">TS</a>]
02:08:29 ◼ ► If the the growing number of green voters slightly influences the Labor governments to change their policies in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/7709">TS</a>]
02:08:35 ◼ ► particular ways that is a benefit. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/7715">TS</a>]
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02:08:46 ◼ ► system has. That's that's my frustration. Has any country got a national level in your opinion. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/7726">TS</a>]
02:08:55 ◼ ► Everybody everybody has their problems. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/7735">TS</a>]
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02:09:38 ◼ ► Use things like single transferable vote which I do quite like. It's not exactly proportional. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/7778">TS</a>]
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02:10:14 ◼ ► and Canada and maybe rightly so but I just want to know where to look for someone who's who's doing it right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/7814">TS</a>]
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02:10:24 ◼ ► Do you like Australia I'm from Australia so I was the only one I'll ask about specifically as a strategy because that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/7824">TS</a>]
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02:10:36 ◼ ► as we discussed in a previous podcast they do it in the worst possible way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/7836">TS</a>]
02:10:40 ◼ ► but I still think it's better than than the way the U.K. System works. It's still not very good. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/7840">TS</a>]
02:10:47 ◼ ► OK So there are better ones than a strike you're out there. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/7847">TS</a>]
02:10:49 ◼ ► Yeah they're different but everyone's in a striking when you tell me which country does it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/7849">TS</a>]
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02:10:55 ◼ ► Well I won't tell anyone what we can do we can talk some of the particulars off air gushing about you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/7855">TS</a>]
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02:11:06 ◼ ► Yeah I thought to say I'd like but the first past the post really really makes things worse. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/7866">TS</a>]
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02:11:28 ◼ ► Scottish National Party was really helped by the first past the post system. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/7888">TS</a>]
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02:12:37 ◼ ► and they should be fairly represented and have a big hug and with them will just compromise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/7957">TS</a>]
02:12:41 ◼ ► and I guess I sounded a bit I don't I sound a bit more ruthless like I'm giving out World Cups [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/7961">TS</a>]
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02:13:01 ◼ ► or not the whole country goes to war like this is the kind of stuff that happens on a national level. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/7981">TS</a>]
02:13:08 ◼ ► and that's that's why it matters like you know what I think if you're going to declare war you need to get more than a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/7988">TS</a>]
02:13:14 ◼ ► third of the people to agree with you. You shouldn't be able to say oh we're the biggest group. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/7994">TS</a>]
02:13:19 ◼ ► Well let me put the opposite argument. Let me put the opposite argument to you. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/7999">TS</a>]
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02:13:32 ◼ ► around and hold hands and think oh what do you think no no what do you think I don't know what do you think. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/8012">TS</a>]
02:13:37 ◼ ► Let's trade like trade you know let's just have someone in charge of body press the button. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/8017">TS</a>]
02:13:41 ◼ ► Let me ask you something don't you think. Right in an in an existential situation people would agree. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/8021">TS</a>]
02:13:48 ◼ ► Right people if the if you want to know is that isn't what you want to give someone Power I Am i am very happy to lay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/8028">TS</a>]
02:13:55 ◼ ► it on the table and this is this is this always happens in these conversations. People act as though. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/8035">TS</a>]
02:14:00 ◼ ► No humans can never possibly agree on anything. And like humans are actually very good at this kind of stuff. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/8040">TS</a>]
02:14:06 ◼ ► If you have a big obvious problem with a big obvious solution what do you think you're going to have people not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/8046">TS</a>]
02:14:15 ◼ ► agreeing about that of course people are going to I mean it does happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/8055">TS</a>]
02:14:18 ◼ ► but anyway I mean you're right necessity is the mother of invention and I was probably also the mother of compromise. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/8058">TS</a>]
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02:14:34 ◼ ► to talk about the reason people imagine that committees argue and bicker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/8074">TS</a>]
02:14:38 ◼ ► and do all of this stuff is because the smaller the stakes the more people can feel free to argue about this kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/8078">TS</a>]
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02:14:56 ◼ ► Right this is this is the this is the bike shed effect right everybody wants to argue about what color to paint the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/8096">TS</a>]
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02:15:06 ◼ ► when you get down to like important stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/8106">TS</a>]
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02:15:14 ◼ ► that's not exactly what I was going to say I was going to say that we're decorating the house at the moment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/8114">TS</a>]
02:15:18 ◼ ► and we don't always agree on what color paint to erase but. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/8118">TS</a>]
02:15:21 ◼ ► So in the end I have given the power to my wife so we don't end up with rooms painted different colors she just given [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/8121">TS</a>]
02:15:29 ◼ ► her the power to decide and I think there's something to be said for giving someone power to decide things. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/8129">TS</a>]
02:15:35 ◼ ► But you are voluntarily you voluntarily gave that power over right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/8135">TS</a>]
02:15:40 ◼ ► You you have implicitly agreed to go along with what she said this is what a coalition is this is what a coalition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/8140">TS</a>]
02:15:47 ◼ ► government is right where you know you don't always get our way but we're kind of agreeing to go along with you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/8147">TS</a>]
02:15:52 ◼ ► but I can guarantee that if she came back with some kind of future that she wanted to paint the whole house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/8152">TS</a>]
02:15:57 ◼ ► and the dogs in you would withdraw your consent. Because that would be stupid. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/8157">TS</a>]
02:16:02 ◼ ► It just sounds like you want a big committee of millions of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/8162">TS</a>]
02:16:04 ◼ ► and I don't I don't want to I think the Parliament is way too big I think that's actually one of the problems is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/8164">TS</a>]
02:16:11 ◼ ► I think you need to keep you need to keep national parliaments [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/8171">TS</a>]
02:16:14 ◼ ► and national governing bodies at something under a Dunbar number right you need like one hundred people so that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/8174">TS</a>]
02:16:21 ◼ ► people who are actually working with each other have some notion of who the individuals are. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/8181">TS</a>]
02:16:27 ◼ ► I don't know what Dunbar number is. Dunbar number is about one hundred twenty. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/8187">TS</a>]
02:16:32 ◼ ► It's basically how many humans can a single human meaningfully keep track of like the relationships between them. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/8192">TS</a>]
02:16:39 ◼ ► OK And so I give I was Emperor of the U.K. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/8199">TS</a>]
02:16:44 ◼ ► You know one of the very first things I would do is I like listen we're cutting this Parliament down by a divisor of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/8204">TS</a>]
02:16:52 ◼ ► and we're going to have bigger constituencies each of which send more representatives so that it is more proportional. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/8212">TS</a>]
02:16:59 ◼ ► But you can expect six hundred people to meaningfully work with each other in any particular way. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/8219">TS</a>]
02:17:04 ◼ ► Yeah but you know like that's a separate issue and I think that the E.U. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/8224">TS</a>]
02:17:08 ◼ ► Suffers from that a little bit with like gigantic parliaments of listening guys like you know you can have proportional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/8228">TS</a>]
02:17:16 ◼ ► representation with one hundred people that's close enough like a hundred people going to get your error within one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/8236">TS</a>]
02:17:24 ◼ ► Yes six hundred people is a crazy number of people so it definitely has to be smaller as well. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/8244">TS</a>]
02:17:28 ◼ ► They are not some are not some hippie. I just think if it's a big problem people will be able to agree on that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/8248">TS</a>]
02:17:37 ◼ ► People will either vote yes this is a war to get involved in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/8257">TS</a>]
02:17:40 ◼ ► or no it is not it's not like there's ten thousand options. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/8260">TS</a>]
02:17:44 ◼ ► It's an important thing you'll get agreement to your faith in humanity restored my faith in you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMU-RuCE/8264">TS</a>]