00:00:00 ◼ ► I've to look good not to smile for this it's like they're like a funny pose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/0">TS</a>]
00:00:03 ◼ ► and then turn off as you do it like a really funny face and then freeze it because of the smile that worked for you. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3">TS</a>]
00:00:12 ◼ ► Yeah that's good. Do I sound more free to you at the moment. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/12">TS</a>]
00:00:19 ◼ ► Can you feel the freedom that only comes with being in the United States of America. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/19">TS</a>]
00:00:24 ◼ ► I can definitely tell that you are more free time in your home state. Oh yes you are in New York than the Empire State. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/24">TS</a>]
00:00:32 ◼ ► The greatest name for est ever and I am in New York City talking to you from the Big Apple. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/32">TS</a>]
00:00:38 ◼ ► I am on Manhattan place I do love and I have spent I've been here for about a week and I spent a few days in Boston [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/38">TS</a>]
00:00:45 ◼ ► and now I'm back in New York for a few more days doing various things various interviews mainly for a number file. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/45">TS</a>]
00:00:53 ◼ ► In fact do you know who I interviewed who did you interview I interviewed that billionaire that we spoke about in an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/53">TS</a>]
00:01:00 ◼ ► earlier pod cast you know I said I met he was the richest man I'd ever met yet he said How did you interview him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/60">TS</a>]
00:01:04 ◼ ► and I said no not a problem. Every interview you know I went and I interviewed him in his office. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/64">TS</a>]
00:01:10 ◼ ► Very exciting How did that happen. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/70">TS</a>]
00:01:11 ◼ ► It's kind of a long story but it's because he's like a he's a mathematician for a second. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/71">TS</a>]
00:01:16 ◼ ► I actually thought you were going to say he's a fan of the pope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/76">TS</a>]
00:01:18 ◼ ► and I felt I felt a little bit of disappointment there were always a fan of mathematics. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/78">TS</a>]
00:01:24 ◼ ► OK I get more sense but for a moment I thought maybe we would have a billionaire listener. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/84">TS</a>]
00:01:28 ◼ ► Yeah did you say he was a patriotic pledge for a two hundred million dollars an episode. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/88">TS</a>]
00:01:33 ◼ ► Excellent we can retire after this one. Yeah I don't think he has. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/93">TS</a>]
00:01:40 ◼ ► He knew the podcast I don't think you do a tremendous amount about number fall either but he agreed to an interview [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/100">TS</a>]
00:01:46 ◼ ► and that will appear soon so stay tuned. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/106">TS</a>]
00:01:49 ◼ ► I'll tell you a story is interesting story I don't know if I should tell this but I'll tell it anyway. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/109">TS</a>]
00:01:53 ◼ ► OK because I went I used a camera man which I never use and he can't so he came along with me and helped me. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/113">TS</a>]
00:02:00 ◼ ► And it's not us it's not a secret so I can say this that that this guy this gentleman does occasionally have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/120">TS</a>]
00:02:07 ◼ ► cigarette. So you know he smokes. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/127">TS</a>]
00:02:12 ◼ ► I've seen him smoke in public places so I can say you know I'm not I'm not talking of SCO It's funny actually to get to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/132">TS</a>]
00:02:17 ◼ ► business to say someone's Mike's been here. I'm saying Who are you talking about. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/137">TS</a>]
00:02:21 ◼ ► The cameraman smokes are the billionaires the billionaire. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/141">TS</a>]
00:02:23 ◼ ► OK the billionaire the billionaire smacks so you know he's going to do what he wants. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/143">TS</a>]
00:02:28 ◼ ► He's a billionaire and he gives a lot of money to good causes. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/148">TS</a>]
00:02:31 ◼ ► If he wants to have a cigarette I'm not going to judge him. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/151">TS</a>]
00:02:34 ◼ ► Right but what I found really interesting was we went to his office. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/154">TS</a>]
00:02:39 ◼ ► Gorgeous office full of beautiful things beautiful furniture works of art on the wall like you know you could tell it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/159">TS</a>]
00:02:46 ◼ ► was the office of someone who has done well in business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/166">TS</a>]
00:02:51 ◼ ► and then he had like he had he had had a little bit of a cigarette because he'd been working all day so we waited for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/171">TS</a>]
00:02:56 ◼ ► him to finish and that halfway through I think he had another puff of a cigarette and maybe at some other point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/176">TS</a>]
00:03:04 ◼ ► and the interesting thing was each time he had another puff of a cigarette he would then just put out the mostly unused [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/184">TS</a>]
00:03:10 ◼ ► cigarette in an ashtray and then when he had another puff he would like start a new cigarette and afterwards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/190">TS</a>]
00:03:18 ◼ ► when we left I was saying to the camera man you know what you think of him you know he has a really nice guy really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/198">TS</a>]
00:03:23 ◼ ► interesting and I was like did he like it. Did it feel like he was really really rich too. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/203">TS</a>]
00:03:28 ◼ ► Like could you tell he was he forgot this is your thing this is your own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/208">TS</a>]
00:03:31 ◼ ► and the only thing the cameraman said was the moment I knew he was rich was when he would like start a new cigarette. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/211">TS</a>]
00:03:38 ◼ ► Each time and he wouldn't like he wouldn't really like the old one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/218">TS</a>]
00:03:42 ◼ ► and I thought that was so of all the things all the works of art and valuable things and stories he told [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/222">TS</a>]
00:03:47 ◼ ► and trappings of wealth the one thing the cameramen noticed that made him think he was rich was he starts new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/227">TS</a>]
00:03:53 ◼ ► cigarettes each time he wants a puff. I guess the first puff is the best half I don't know that the way it works. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/233">TS</a>]
00:04:00 ◼ ► If you're a billionaire you might as well only have first puffs you don't have to deal with second puffs. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/240">TS</a>]
00:04:05 ◼ ► I mean I don't think when he's having a whole cigarette he just has first puff first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/245">TS</a>]
00:04:09 ◼ ► but after first puff I would do that if I was a billionaire. I mean assuming that the first puff is the best path. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/249">TS</a>]
00:04:15 ◼ ► I don't know I've never had a puff of a cigarette mean either so we are not able to talk on the top of the critical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/255">TS</a>]
00:04:20 ◼ ► works people of the world to talk about which puff of a cigarette is the best it has to be the first one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/260">TS</a>]
00:04:25 ◼ ► or I don't know maybe there's a sweet spot in the middle of the cigarette where the where you get the best flavor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/265">TS</a>]
00:04:30 ◼ ► or the best nicotine high or buzz on it. If you're a smoker let us know which buffer is the best part. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/270">TS</a>]
00:04:39 ◼ ► I got money on first first puff is the best puff like I imagine the first puff is the best for other reasons because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/279">TS</a>]
00:04:45 ◼ ► you haven't had like a smoke for you know an hour so you badly want one so that first puff seems the best. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/285">TS</a>]
00:04:51 ◼ ► Well that's that's all that matters. The first puff seems the Best Buy because if you sat down for a smoking session. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/291">TS</a>]
00:04:59 ◼ ► OK And like smokers down for smoking sessions yes. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/299">TS</a>]
00:05:03 ◼ ► So now you've had your first puff so you know you can say tonight is going to say all right now I'm going to finish a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/303">TS</a>]
00:05:07 ◼ ► cigarette would it be nicer to have a series of that first he centimetres of a cigarette [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/307">TS</a>]
00:05:14 ◼ ► and you've got your momentum going you know is there a sweet spot in the middle of a cigarette that tastes nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/314">TS</a>]
00:05:20 ◼ ► or all the chemicals of mixed better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/320">TS</a>]
00:05:21 ◼ ► or the oxygens How did you know that temperatures got to some I I don't I am overcome with the need to say don't smoke [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/321">TS</a>]
00:05:29 ◼ ► kids. Yeah I think I have to point out that smoking is not necessarily the best idea in fact it's a bad idea. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/329">TS</a>]
00:05:34 ◼ ► Yes it's a terrible idea and neither of us do and we are like we are we are shining examples [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/334">TS</a>]
00:05:41 ◼ ► and that's another reason that people should do this again. Yes yes. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/341">TS</a>]
00:05:45 ◼ ► The Brady statue pushing away the coffee Well you know Jubal you pushed for the introvert statue of you inside the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/345">TS</a>]
00:05:51 ◼ ► house and I simply mentioned I think there was no pushing. He started to say he said the saves you were pushing anyway. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/351">TS</a>]
00:06:00 ◼ ► A remarkable thing happened I went to Boston I checked into my hotel in Cambridge where MIT is because I was also doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/360">TS</a>]
00:06:07 ◼ ► some interviews there plugged in my laptop went on to Twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/367">TS</a>]
00:06:12 ◼ ► and then immediately the top tweet was a tweet from very stably interpreters you know basically yeah basically saying I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/372">TS</a>]
00:06:22 ◼ ► and I'm doing something at MIT tomorrow he was doing like a public talk with Marco Stephens from the source is also a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/382">TS</a>]
00:06:29 ◼ ► friend of mine and I was like that's amazing So like I texted him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/389">TS</a>]
00:06:32 ◼ ► and said I just arrived in Boston as well where are you staying. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/392">TS</a>]
00:06:37 ◼ ► And then as I was rushing another text saying I'm staying at the Cambridge Marriott he sent a text to me that crossed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/397">TS</a>]
00:06:44 ◼ ► over with my text I'm staying at the Cambridge Marriott. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/404">TS</a>]
00:06:47 ◼ ► Half an hour later Derek and Michael and some other You Tube so I hadn't met [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/407">TS</a>]
00:06:51 ◼ ► but who really cool turned up I got to hang out with him for a few days and then I was like What are you doing next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/411">TS</a>]
00:06:57 ◼ ► and they're like No we're all going to New York. So they all came back to New York as well and they're all in it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/417">TS</a>]
00:07:01 ◼ ► It's turned into a big chance to just hang out with the mikes. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/421">TS</a>]
00:07:04 ◼ ► It's amazing there's like a spontaneous smaller U two conference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/424">TS</a>]
00:07:08 ◼ ► and it's the second time this is happening because well because I remember one time I was in Berkeley [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/428">TS</a>]
00:07:13 ◼ ► and he just tweeted a picture of that big pyramid E. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/433">TS</a>]
00:07:16 ◼ ► Building in San Francisco and didn't say anything live on Instagram [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/436">TS</a>]
00:07:20 ◼ ► and I'm like man you're safe in Cisco I'm here right now as well and that we had dinner that night as well. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/440">TS</a>]
00:07:27 ◼ ► when I was just thinking is Derek travels so much that he's like a quantum wave form over all the cities of the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/447">TS</a>]
00:07:36 ◼ ► at once. And if so there must always be a non-zero chance that Derek is in any particular city at any particular time. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/456">TS</a>]
00:07:43 ◼ ► Or maybe maybe it's more a bit more Schrodinger and he's in two places at the same time. Right right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/463">TS</a>]
00:07:48 ◼ ► But then then you observe him in Boston and so suddenly he's in Boston [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/468">TS</a>]
00:07:52 ◼ ► and he's not in the other places that he could be. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/472">TS</a>]
00:07:54 ◼ ► So if I'd been in San Francisco I could have had dinner with him there as well. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/474">TS</a>]
00:07:57 ◼ ► Yes you could have had dinner with him in San Francisco. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/477">TS</a>]
00:08:00 ◼ ► No it is an infinite number of universes where he sending out messages that even all of the various cities just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/480">TS</a>]
00:08:05 ◼ ► collapses to the one where where you are. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/485">TS</a>]
00:08:07 ◼ ► So maybe maybe bumping into Derek all over the world is much much less unlikely than we might first assume he was very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/487">TS</a>]
00:08:15 ◼ ► he expressed a lot of gratitude to me for starting is how to think. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/495">TS</a>]
00:08:19 ◼ ► Oh did he I'm sure he loved that he he really appreciates it and said that it put out. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/499">TS</a>]
00:08:23 ◼ ► Yeah he put up I really enjoyed all the comments and things that happened as a result he said yeah. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/503">TS</a>]
00:08:27 ◼ ► If i Message him now is that that I'm going to hear from Derek I don't know I don't remember saying Oh OK You know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/507">TS</a>]
00:08:33 ◼ ► think I might be hearing a different story from Derick a very passive if I actually message him directly I think you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/513">TS</a>]
00:08:38 ◼ ► are full of lines pretty full of lines anyway it was a good it was good fun is good fun to see him and Michael [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/518">TS</a>]
00:08:45 ◼ ► and some other new people I met the physics go he is a You Tube or I had not met before but she was nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/525">TS</a>]
00:08:50 ◼ ► and really the big You Tube edu party. I'm envious. Growing science which is a new channel. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/530">TS</a>]
00:08:57 ◼ ► They go he makes a parallel You Tube channel so I've got a lot of catching up to do. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/537">TS</a>]
00:09:00 ◼ ► I still don't know how you do all this traveling your life exhaust me sometimes I feel like I am still barely caught up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/540">TS</a>]
00:09:06 ◼ ► with getting my life back into some kind of normal semblance from my vacation from three weeks ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/546">TS</a>]
00:09:12 ◼ ► and you are already flying to different countries [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/552">TS</a>]
00:09:15 ◼ ► and then going to different cities you just you're impressive You're hard as nails. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/555">TS</a>]
00:09:19 ◼ ► I AM How does nouns but I have to admit I am struggling a bit this time I want to be back home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/559">TS</a>]
00:09:24 ◼ ► and I have actually said and I don't know if I'll stick to this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/564">TS</a>]
00:09:28 ◼ ► But now you're going to have proof of it on the podcast I've said I'm going to impose a travel ban for the next three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/568">TS</a>]
00:09:34 ◼ ► months where I'm not going to be away from home for more than one. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/574">TS</a>]
00:09:39 ◼ ► So people on Twitter can keep track of you three months starting when when when when does this begin. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/579">TS</a>]
00:09:44 ◼ ► I want to try and do in May June and July at home. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/584">TS</a>]
00:09:48 ◼ ► OK May June and July keep an eye on him people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/588">TS</a>]
00:09:51 ◼ ► or if I go away for more than two knots that will be with my wife on a holiday. OK. Yes holidays don't count. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/591">TS</a>]
00:10:00 ◼ ► If you're if you're filming in San Francisco or elsewhere that does that does count [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/600">TS</a>]
00:10:05 ◼ ► and you've broken your trouble them. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/605">TS</a>]
00:10:08 ◼ ► I wish I hadn't said it now you did say it precisely because you want people to hold you to it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/608">TS</a>]
00:10:13 ◼ ► It's good you're a euro that's what that's why you brought it up help me too. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/613">TS</a>]
00:10:17 ◼ ► Don't forget Twitter never forget never forget the Internet never forgets. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/617">TS</a>]
00:10:21 ◼ ► Now I think people are people I was going to say I think people are going to ask people have asked asked I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/621">TS</a>]
00:10:28 ◼ ► what they want us to do or say but obviously there's been a great tragedy in the poll as we speak [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/628">TS</a>]
00:10:33 ◼ ► and I guess because we talk about in the poll the Mount Everest of the on the podcast people you know as opposed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/633">TS</a>]
00:10:39 ◼ ► some tragedies people are more likely to ask us about this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/639">TS</a>]
00:10:42 ◼ ► Has this crossed the C G P Great news radar the earthquake in the bow. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/642">TS</a>]
00:10:46 ◼ ► Yes I haven't been on Twitter very much but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/646">TS</a>]
00:10:48 ◼ ► when I did log on Twitter I saw a bunch of messages all telling me oh I guess the random acts of intelligence trip to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/648">TS</a>]
00:10:56 ◼ ► base camp is off with links to various news articles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/656">TS</a>]
00:10:59 ◼ ► and yes the first thing that I saw was that there had been some massive avalanche down to base camp which you assured [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/659">TS</a>]
00:11:05 ◼ ► me was perfectly safe and instead resulted in the deaths of numerous people. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/665">TS</a>]
00:11:10 ◼ ► So this is this is how it originally came across my radar and then looking into it it seems like it has been a much. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/670">TS</a>]
00:11:16 ◼ ► A much bigger earthquake than just that one incident I have to say I I am staggered by how widespread this is because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/676">TS</a>]
00:11:24 ◼ ► it didn't quite happen that close to Mt Everest. I mean it's devastated. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/684">TS</a>]
00:11:28 ◼ ► Katmandu which is quite a way from Mount Everest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/688">TS</a>]
00:11:31 ◼ ► and has been really sad saying I mean obviously it's incredibly sad a number of people who died [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/691">TS</a>]
00:11:35 ◼ ► but it's also been really said seeing a lot of the landmarks and buildings that I really enjoyed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/695">TS</a>]
00:11:39 ◼ ► and took photos of him stuff in Katmandu have just been destroyed. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/699">TS</a>]
00:11:45 ◼ ► But then also Mount Everest I guess is pretty fragile in the Himalaya [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/705">TS</a>]
00:11:49 ◼ ► and you know shaking these mounds around can dislodge snow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/709">TS</a>]
00:11:53 ◼ ► but I've been amazed by the scale of the impact it had a Mount Everest. I still think we'd have to be. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/713">TS</a>]
00:12:00 ◼ ► Very unlucky because you're only ever at base camp itself. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/720">TS</a>]
00:12:03 ◼ ► Sort of an arrow tell you when you do the trip and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/723">TS</a>]
00:12:07 ◼ ► and you still would have been unlikely to have been right in the heart of base camp. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/727">TS</a>]
00:12:11 ◼ ► I feel where you are you're trying to back into the still base camp trip is that where this is going as you try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/731">TS</a>]
00:12:17 ◼ ► but actually still we can go to base camp. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/737">TS</a>]
00:12:19 ◼ ► Well I don't want to save the whole tourist industry of the Khumbu Valley obliterated because of you know you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/739">TS</a>]
00:12:27 ◼ ► means that this is the time we should be supporting them. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/747">TS</a>]
00:12:29 ◼ ► Listen listen the kind of people who are going to go to Everest. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/749">TS</a>]
00:12:34 ◼ ► but I don't think there are a lot of people on the margins of who maybe I'll go maybe I won't if you're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/754">TS</a>]
00:12:40 ◼ ► Everest. You know you're the kind of person who's going to Everest. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/760">TS</a>]
00:12:43 ◼ ► I bet you I bet you the tourist trade is perfectly fine. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/763">TS</a>]
00:12:47 ◼ ► But but they'll be totally OK with people going back to Everest will not have paid not a scaredy cats like you Kate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/767">TS</a>]
00:12:53 ◼ ► but I was never going to Everest in the first you're right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/773">TS</a>]
00:12:56 ◼ ► and you're coming back if the rest of us can know that you know my my statement was that the value proposition changes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/776">TS</a>]
00:13:03 ◼ ► But the value proposition has changed again with earthquake the avalanche of death now very clearly on the horizon as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/783">TS</a>]
00:13:10 ◼ ► well as what you promised me was like oh you'll just be able to relax at base camp you get to chill out just hang out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/790">TS</a>]
00:13:17 ◼ ► and now you're back to only be there for an hour. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/797">TS</a>]
00:13:19 ◼ ► It won't be very dangerous and I don't like to misinterpret what this base camp trip is like you don't go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/799">TS</a>]
00:13:23 ◼ ► and spend like time at base camp it's a bit like it's a bit like going on a trip to Paris [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/803">TS</a>]
00:13:30 ◼ ► and yet you spend like half an hour at the top of the Eiffel Tower because that's what you do. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/810">TS</a>]
00:13:34 ◼ ► But there's like weeks of stuff on the side and it's like that was by sleep so forget it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/814">TS</a>]
00:13:40 ◼ ► Weeks now it's snow it's a long walk. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/820">TS</a>]
00:13:45 ◼ ► I have I have to admit I was talking to Dick about it last night [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/825">TS</a>]
00:13:48 ◼ ► and I did say we were talking about what happened in the poll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/828">TS</a>]
00:13:52 ◼ ► and then we're also talking about well I guess this is going to put a damper on the chances a great coming with us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/832">TS</a>]
00:13:58 ◼ ► and then he told me about it. A walk in the wilderness that you guys did the day before I arrived in Alabama. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/838">TS</a>]
00:14:04 ◼ ► Oh yeah you know I went there for that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/844">TS</a>]
00:14:06 ◼ ► I wasn't there but I was told and I was shown photographic proof that you were a bit of a lightweight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/846">TS</a>]
00:14:12 ◼ ► and you were like oh it's so steep and so rocky [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/852">TS</a>]
00:14:15 ◼ ► and like I saw a picture if you like gingerly holding onto a tree as if you're going to fall over while everyone else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/855">TS</a>]
00:14:20 ◼ ► was just hanging around like they were normal human beings. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/860">TS</a>]
00:14:24 ◼ ► So when I saw that I was like oh I will if I want to see this is a problem. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/864">TS</a>]
00:14:28 ◼ ► I won't try to defend myself except for the fact that I was wildly unprepared with the foot gear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/868">TS</a>]
00:14:33 ◼ ► and that would have been much less of a problem if I actually had boots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/873">TS</a>]
00:14:36 ◼ ► but I had completely worn down perfectly smooth sneakers trying to walk down hills with wet leaves on them so this was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/876">TS</a>]
00:14:44 ◼ ► not ideal circumstances and I was not describe what this would be like probably on purpose. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/884">TS</a>]
00:14:50 ◼ ► Before we set off on it that was not my idea of an entertaining time I believe I called it a death march on the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/890">TS</a>]
00:14:57 ◼ ► random acts of intelligence stage is what it felt like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/897">TS</a>]
00:15:00 ◼ ► Specially because Henry of Minute Physics who some kind of super hero decides that after he's gotten off a long plane [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/900">TS</a>]
00:15:06 ◼ ► flight the thing he needs to do to recuperate is basically March at top speed through the woods [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/906">TS</a>]
00:15:13 ◼ ► and so this is this is why we were there in the first place. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/913">TS</a>]
00:15:15 ◼ ► You get off the plane and I go what do I do is I want to march through the woods and so we did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/915">TS</a>]
00:15:20 ◼ ► and as I was I am not prepared for this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/920">TS</a>]
00:15:22 ◼ ► I I did not sign up for this I would never have have gone along with this if I knew it was an advance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/922">TS</a>]
00:15:27 ◼ ► and you get to make fun of it because you weren't there at the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/927">TS</a>]
00:15:30 ◼ ► but I guarantee if you had been bought blindsided by that you would have been grumpy like me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/930">TS</a>]
00:15:35 ◼ ► and I'm pretty Had I had it all I could walk but like I mean I couldn't keep up with Henry he's like ridiculous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/935">TS</a>]
00:15:43 ◼ ► but it wasn't a walk it was a descent is the best way to put it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/943">TS</a>]
00:15:46 ◼ ► Like I enjoy a good walk as well but this was not a good walk. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/946">TS</a>]
00:15:51 ◼ ► You look at you like a nice walk like you know I carry London to a big about oh something surprising you forget man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/951">TS</a>]
00:16:00 ◼ ► No parks are not is not is is totally in the city kind of person as you think I am all the time anyway. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/960">TS</a>]
00:16:08 ◼ ► Base camp not going to happen. Let's bottom line. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/968">TS</a>]
00:16:11 ◼ ► But it also was never going to happen this doesn't really change anything. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/971">TS</a>]
00:16:15 ◼ ► I still think those chaps are going to I'm going to work on it but there is a non-zero chance you are correct. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/975">TS</a>]
00:16:20 ◼ ► OK something we talked about in the last podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/980">TS</a>]
00:16:25 ◼ ► or maybe even the last couple of podcasts has been the whole issue of interacting with retail workers. Yes yes. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/985">TS</a>]
00:16:31 ◼ ► Should you you know should you have like a little have a nice day chat if you're a regular and stuff like that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/991">TS</a>]
00:16:38 ◼ ► I think quite possibly this is the topic I have received the most tweets about. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/998">TS</a>]
00:16:43 ◼ ► And the thing that I was finding kind of frustrating at first was I was getting all the tweets so at Brady Haran said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1003">TS</a>]
00:16:51 ◼ ► No C.H.P. Guy as well and they were all people agreeing with me. Brady Haran I agree with you. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1011">TS</a>]
00:17:01 ◼ ► Two different levels some were saying a little bit sick and some was really like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1021">TS</a>]
00:17:05 ◼ ► but definitely the overall time that I have a saved is people agreeing with me that bit of interaction is nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1025">TS</a>]
00:17:11 ◼ ► but I will just sending it to me and I was going crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1031">TS</a>]
00:17:14 ◼ ► and I was about to start sending all these things back saying Don't tell me like I already know tell Granny he's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1034">TS</a>]
00:17:20 ◼ ► one that needs to know this and then I went back and listened to the podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1040">TS</a>]
00:17:24 ◼ ► and it was a little thing you said something along the lines of Yes I do think that eased Brady. That's crazy. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1044">TS</a>]
00:17:31 ◼ ► This implies writing revenge for the airplane thing right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1051">TS</a>]
00:17:36 ◼ ► That's right that's what I was trying to do there I'm glad you got a bunch of feedback I actually did see it I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1056">TS</a>]
00:17:40 ◼ ► curious I looked at your replies at one point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1060">TS</a>]
00:17:42 ◼ ► and also just on the read it I have to say that there was much more positive feedback from retail workers about being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1062">TS</a>]
00:17:51 ◼ ► happy to chit chat with customers or wanting to chit chat with customers than I would have expected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1071">TS</a>]
00:17:57 ◼ ► but afterwards I was thinking about it and then I realized. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1077">TS</a>]
00:18:00 ◼ ► Oh wait that actually makes more sense I might have first thought because there's going to be a selection bias here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1080">TS</a>]
00:18:06 ◼ ► with the kinds of people who are applying to retail jobs in the first place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1086">TS</a>]
00:18:11 ◼ ► but I would never apply to a retail job unless you know I absolutely had to. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1091">TS</a>]
00:18:17 ◼ ► All of the various jobs I've ever done have not been very customer centric. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1097">TS</a>]
00:18:22 ◼ ► I could see that for someone who thinks I would enjoy a retail position is much more likely to be an extroverted person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1102">TS</a>]
00:18:27 ◼ ► you probably don't have throngs of introverts trying to get into retail positions. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1107">TS</a>]
00:18:31 ◼ ► There's also probably a second level of bias going on here and that is the source of people who are going to tweet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1111">TS</a>]
00:18:37 ◼ ► and say hey I want to tell you what I think are also the sorts of people who quite like to say this is why I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1117">TS</a>]
00:18:43 ◼ ► there's also a problem with just companies like in particular here in the U.K. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1123">TS</a>]
00:18:47 ◼ ► Starbucks pushing for policies where their employees are supposed to talk to the customers because I think the very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1127">TS</a>]
00:18:54 ◼ ► customers who fill out feedback forms and surveys about how their little interactions went at Starbucks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1134">TS</a>]
00:19:00 ◼ ► or what they were Starbucks did. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1140">TS</a>]
00:19:01 ◼ ► I think it's the same kind of selection bias that the people who love social interaction are much more likely to fill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1141">TS</a>]
00:19:07 ◼ ► out those forms and say oh I wish I was the retail employees talk to me more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1147">TS</a>]
00:19:11 ◼ ► and the people like me never fill out those forms and just keep moving on. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1151">TS</a>]
00:19:15 ◼ ► So I think even from from a company perspective they're probably going to hear more from the outgoing people as well. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1155">TS</a>]
00:19:21 ◼ ► And then bend policies more towards them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1161">TS</a>]
00:19:24 ◼ ► and then in Starbucks make them ask for your name which is a terrible policy in London and it's hugely frustrating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1164">TS</a>]
00:19:30 ◼ ► All of that said I have come out the other side of this thinking I'm a bit more in the right than you think more people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1170">TS</a>]
00:19:38 ◼ ► do people good long contact my mother when I told my wife about the conversation she doesn't into the podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1178">TS</a>]
00:19:44 ◼ ► when I told her about your position and my position. She was like outraged. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1184">TS</a>]
00:19:50 ◼ ► She thinks you're very wrong that I don't want to talk to people at Starbucks. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1190">TS</a>]
00:19:54 ◼ ► She thinks that's not the right attitude to have. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1194">TS</a>]
00:19:56 ◼ ► You know she thinks she thinks people should interact with each other. Always all the time. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1196">TS</a>]
00:20:03 ◼ ► Generally they're generally let me tell you like a kind of funny funny little thing here about about interaction I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1203">TS</a>]
00:20:09 ◼ ► noticed so I think I have mentioned before on the podcast that my parents retired from New York down to North Carolina [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1209">TS</a>]
00:20:17 ◼ ► several years ago when I go visit them. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1217">TS</a>]
00:20:19 ◼ ► There's a kind of a walking path behind where there are houses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1219">TS</a>]
00:20:23 ◼ ► and there are a whole bunch of people who use the walking path and the surrounding houses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1223">TS</a>]
00:20:28 ◼ ► and as someone who lived in New York when I visited them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1228">TS</a>]
00:20:32 ◼ ► and would go on the path I was always kind of just exhausted by the number of people who would say good morning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1232">TS</a>]
00:20:40 ◼ ► and say hello and were just like walking by the stream of people and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1240">TS</a>]
00:20:46 ◼ ► and so many of them would greet you like look right at you and say hello. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1246">TS</a>]
00:20:50 ◼ ► And yet To me this is just totally startling and also someone who lives in London. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1250">TS</a>]
00:20:55 ◼ ► You can walk right by someone in a place like Hyde Park. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1255">TS</a>]
00:20:59 ◼ ► Nobody acknowledges anybody else because you just you just can't possibly. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1259">TS</a>]
00:21:03 ◼ ► But in North Carolina I was surprised because I thought the people density here is too high to keep up his level of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1263">TS</a>]
00:21:09 ◼ ► interaction. Yet they still do it. It was absolutely absolutely exhausting. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1269">TS</a>]
00:21:13 ◼ ► So it's not like one person every twenty minutes or something it's like a special stream of people both ways. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1273">TS</a>]
00:21:18 ◼ ► I will on this walking path I would say it was probably a busy times like a person a minute [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1278">TS</a>]
00:21:25 ◼ ► and they would still all say hi. And it was just it was just exhausting. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1285">TS</a>]
00:21:29 ◼ ► But my only point here that I did notice was that it was different depending on two factors. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1289">TS</a>]
00:21:37 ◼ ► And my walking with my wife and is the other person walking with a partner of theirs. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1297">TS</a>]
00:21:44 ◼ ► If you have two couples walking down the path it was like one hundred percent guarantee that the other couple is going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1304">TS</a>]
00:21:52 ◼ ► You know and then you say good morning as well and take off your hat and keep walking or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1312">TS</a>]
00:21:56 ◼ ► but if it was to single people and to. In particular single guys walking past each other. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1316">TS</a>]
00:22:02 ◼ ► That was the highest probability of not having to do anything except the nod you know about the not right BRADY Yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1322">TS</a>]
00:22:09 ◼ ► guy has a note right there and that was just a pleasure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1329">TS</a>]
00:22:13 ◼ ► and it suggested to me that there are very many people who don't really want to do this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1333">TS</a>]
00:22:17 ◼ ► but I was like oh great we're two guys were just walking past each other on the path. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1337">TS</a>]
00:22:21 ◼ ► We'll just do the not and that's all that's necessary. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1341">TS</a>]
00:22:24 ◼ ► We had knowledge of the existence of the other person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1344">TS</a>]
00:22:26 ◼ ► but we don't have to we don't have to keep saying like oh hello hello hello to you too sir what a fun day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1346">TS</a>]
00:22:32 ◼ ► and you know do it again and again and again on this walking path. Also having a dog was deaf. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1352">TS</a>]
00:22:38 ◼ ► If I was walking the dog everybody says hi to Grace you should try walking or tree. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1358">TS</a>]
00:22:44 ◼ ► But two guys meeting like alone on a path in the woods does carry a certain amount of baggage that you may want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1364">TS</a>]
00:22:50 ◼ ► avoid. So I can see why you just move on as quickly as possible. That's exactly it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1370">TS</a>]
00:22:54 ◼ ► We don't want this to end in a murder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1374">TS</a>]
00:22:56 ◼ ► or a knife fight like a bunch of silverback gorilla is all walking past each other on the path [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1376">TS</a>]
00:23:02 ◼ ► or we acknowledged each other but we're staying out of it out of our personal space out of out of the territory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1382">TS</a>]
00:23:07 ◼ ► and that's the way it should be. Someone has pointed out this word. Let me I'm going to try to pronounce it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1387">TS</a>]
00:23:18 ◼ ► No I'm not. Lagged Nihad lagniappe bare legs back. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1398">TS</a>]
00:23:26 ◼ ► Yeah you have to say with a high tone like that high pitch you know how to read those Wikipedia had to say you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1406">TS</a>]
00:23:32 ◼ ► do not I can see I'm looking at it literally right now and I see the stupid I.P.A. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1412">TS</a>]
00:23:37 ◼ ► and You know how useful it is zero percent useful that's how useful it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1417">TS</a>]
00:23:41 ◼ ► or looks next to it it's got unlearned yet written is alone yet. Lon Yup OK And we're just embarrassing ourselves. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1421">TS</a>]
00:23:49 ◼ ► You're embarrassing yourself because this is your note you didn't look it up and I had it at a time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1429">TS</a>]
00:23:53 ◼ ► when I did put it in the only looked at it like five seconds before we started recording. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1433">TS</a>]
00:23:58 ◼ ► OK To be fair that is more preparation than either. Right here I've got the house. How do you say a guy doing it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1438">TS</a>]
00:24:07 ◼ ► And Lenya is the way he's saying it just led Yep it looks posh looks like it should be more exotic. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1447">TS</a>]
00:24:16 ◼ ► but I am I'm having a hard time hearing what he's doing with the first one up with the audio [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1456">TS</a>]
00:24:19 ◼ ► and because this is the guy that everybody knows as the dude who pronounces words guy learn year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1459">TS</a>]
00:24:26 ◼ ► or learns here this is the word for. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1466">TS</a>]
00:24:32 ◼ ► According to Wikipedia a small gift given to a customer by a merchant at the time of purchase. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1472">TS</a>]
00:24:39 ◼ ► So the example used in the page here is like getting an extra day not when you buy a dozen. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1479">TS</a>]
00:24:44 ◼ ► The example I used last week was the guy I bought from giving me like a sponge to wash my car. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1484">TS</a>]
00:24:52 ◼ ► and I do think it's an interesting phenomenon this whole giving someone something to make them feel special. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1492">TS</a>]
00:24:59 ◼ ► Let go I like as you know you know very I like words you know you have your words. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1499">TS</a>]
00:25:03 ◼ ► Maybe I can appropriate that word sort of free but style and give it some new meaning at some point in the future. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1503">TS</a>]
00:25:09 ◼ ► Oh you know how I could use that when I make when I make a video like you know I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1509">TS</a>]
00:25:14 ◼ ► and I'm a file video that's ten minutes long but there's some extra footage I cut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1514">TS</a>]
00:25:17 ◼ ► and I put a number file to I could call that my land yet video. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1517">TS</a>]
00:25:21 ◼ ► If you'd like some land yap to go with this video go over to Number Four out now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1521">TS</a>]
00:25:25 ◼ ► but now it doesn't make any sense that the viewers haven't purchased anything terrible re appropriation of this word. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1525">TS</a>]
00:25:32 ◼ ► Now funnelled down this cannot happen. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1532">TS</a>]
00:25:35 ◼ ► I feel like they've given me their time and their attention [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1535">TS</a>]
00:25:37 ◼ ► and for that I'm going to give them the extra footage is small the U.S. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1537">TS</a>]
00:25:40 ◼ ► Would listen even to a customer by a merchant at the time of purchase that's not your bonus video is nothing like that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1540">TS</a>]
00:25:47 ◼ ► Greg I mean standing your misunderstanding I understand that you're trying to take a word that has a chance likely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1547">TS</a>]
00:25:53 ◼ ► solid definition and broaden it does have a history making. Second Secondly it's like a. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1553">TS</a>]
00:26:00 ◼ ► New use for brevity and video are not ready for that yet videos they're the best. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1560">TS</a>]
00:26:04 ◼ ► I don't like Graceland yet video so much to be sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1564">TS</a>]
00:26:07 ◼ ► but Brady does could lend you a video so I don't have any land yap videos I will never have a lanyard video that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1567">TS</a>]
00:26:13 ◼ ► I'll have footnotes I'll have extra videos all have bonus videos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1573">TS</a>]
00:26:16 ◼ ► but not Lenya videos because that doesn't make any sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1576">TS</a>]
00:26:18 ◼ ► and it's a terrible re appropriation No you're breathing in you know whatever you got. I do not approve of this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1578">TS</a>]
00:26:29 ◼ ► This will not happen I mean I can't stop you but no one will go along with our plan. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1589">TS</a>]
00:26:34 ◼ ► The higher you go in against me the more likely to succeed so I'm just letting you help me I am not helping you learn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1594">TS</a>]
00:26:41 ◼ ► yet videos keep an eye on paypal. I'll put it in the video description. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1601">TS</a>]
00:26:44 ◼ ► Did you know you well thank you thank you for watching the sled video now it may be a way out of it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1604">TS</a>]
00:26:52 ◼ ► Let's say I hate I hate it when when words have solid precise specific definitions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1612">TS</a>]
00:27:00 ◼ ► and they kind of turn to mush over time I mean it happens with every single word in existence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1620">TS</a>]
00:27:05 ◼ ► but still I find it frustrating when this occurs. That's all you doing is accelerating this process now. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1625">TS</a>]
00:27:13 ◼ ► One font to follow up here and this this again was something that happened in the city. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1633">TS</a>]
00:27:18 ◼ ► What's nowhere to the cinema E.G. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1638">TS</a>]
00:27:20 ◼ ► In the last episode I revealed how I use the wolf face as the representation of both my dogs actually because they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1640">TS</a>]
00:27:28 ◼ ► both got this kind of yellowy beige color to themselves like I'm texting my wife about the dogs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1648">TS</a>]
00:27:33 ◼ ► and I think Kate sometimes use that and we discussed it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1653">TS</a>]
00:27:37 ◼ ► Anyway huge announcing today and you were tweeting me something about one of my dogs and you used the wolf asymmetry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1657">TS</a>]
00:27:48 ◼ ► and I thought you just used the wrong Ameritrade because instead of this side profile of a yellow dog is forward facing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1668">TS</a>]
00:27:55 ◼ ► gray dog looking at me so I cheekily like messaged you back in tweet. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1675">TS</a>]
00:28:00 ◼ ► To say you know he's the wrong one and you should use the correct one. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1680">TS</a>]
00:28:04 ◼ ► when you sent me the emoji back I thought you were just being an idiot I thought you were that white why did he send me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1684">TS</a>]
00:28:09 ◼ ► this back he just wants to copy paste it either. O'Grady he doesn't know what he's doing on the computer. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1689">TS</a>]
00:28:13 ◼ ► No what I did was I went into it because I don't know how to do M O G S in Tweet Deck so I went into my messaging app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1693">TS</a>]
00:28:22 ◼ ► in my office and there it was the yellow dog right and I'll copy and paste it pasted into tweet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1702">TS</a>]
00:28:27 ◼ ► and it still appeared as the dog and as soon as I pressed return it turned into that gray faced dog [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1707">TS</a>]
00:28:33 ◼ ► and I was like What the hell is going on is what I think is very clearly a wolf. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1713">TS</a>]
00:28:37 ◼ ► OK it doesn't look so much like a wolf when it's that yellow and it looks more like my dogs so I went into my phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1717">TS</a>]
00:28:42 ◼ ► and looked at the Twitter conversation in Iowa and sure enough both of us had used the yellow dog [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1722">TS</a>]
00:28:48 ◼ ► and I'm like what's going on and like I tweeted to you in the sort of state of confusion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1728">TS</a>]
00:28:53 ◼ ► and you you then pointed out to me that you buy the cheap a deer or whatever. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1733">TS</a>]
00:28:59 ◼ ► Something I didn't even know existed that in Ohio S N O S. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1739">TS</a>]
00:29:03 ◼ ► It appears as the yellow dog that looks like an old tree and in other systems it's this forward facing gray wolf. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1743">TS</a>]
00:29:13 ◼ ► and this was a this is a game changer for me because now depending on who I'm interacting with maybe I can use the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1753">TS</a>]
00:29:20 ◼ ► yellow dog to represent Ortrud literally a street [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1760">TS</a>]
00:29:22 ◼ ► but this is the weird thing with Moji And you know I have mixed feelings about the M O G. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1762">TS</a>]
00:29:29 ◼ ► But but one of the biggest problems is yes but all of the various platforms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1769">TS</a>]
00:29:33 ◼ ► and sometimes even particular programs like Tweet Deck will render the M O G differently because there's just this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1773">TS</a>]
00:29:40 ◼ ► description of what it's supposed to be and I think you know for that one it just says Wolf face [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1780">TS</a>]
00:29:45 ◼ ► and so Apple decides to draw the wall face in the most on wolf like Will looking way ever. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1785">TS</a>]
00:29:51 ◼ ► and well being your own like lulu dot it doesn't look like a wolf in the slightest it looks like a fox of anything yet. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1791">TS</a>]
00:29:58 ◼ ► The really weird ones are are with. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1798">TS</a>]
00:30:00 ◼ ► People when you see what the descriptions are supposed to be of the people and how various operating systems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1800">TS</a>]
00:30:04 ◼ ► or programs choose to interpret that description so so what would I say. A blond haired girl or something. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1804">TS</a>]
00:30:10 ◼ ► One of the weird ones I mean just from the Apple ones are really creepy. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1810">TS</a>]
00:30:15 ◼ ► But there's like a girl wearing bunny ears which is I don't even know how. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1815">TS</a>]
00:30:22 ◼ ► Like how does this official list of the mochi get created. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1822">TS</a>]
00:30:25 ◼ ► Who decides that girl wearing bunny ears is going to be an official emoji [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1825">TS</a>]
00:30:30 ◼ ► and then Apple has to decide what they want to tweet gray your answers on that one by the way because everyone's going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1830">TS</a>]
00:30:35 ◼ ► on so that I'm going to I'm going to cut that out because I can I can google myself two seconds to five I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1835">TS</a>]
00:30:42 ◼ ► that right you didn't do it when you told people to tweet May you can cut that or leave it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1842">TS</a>]
00:30:47 ◼ ► but don't tweet me people I'll just block them. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1847">TS</a>]
00:30:49 ◼ ► Because because I can just Google it myself I know that the answer is there. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1849">TS</a>]
00:30:53 ◼ ► I'm just saying this because I don't know right now. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1853">TS</a>]
00:30:55 ◼ ► But it's seems weird that there's a committee somewhere which is like yeah girl with bunny ears were on top of that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1855">TS</a>]
00:31:00 ◼ ► that's got to be a thing to do. We made we made that this huge demand forget it by the S. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1860">TS</a>]
00:31:04 ◼ ► Yeah and there's tons of things they don't. But with that with that one on I.I.S. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1864">TS</a>]
00:31:11 ◼ ► and then another one's It's just a face with little bunny ears it's just you don't know what you're what you're sending [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1871">TS</a>]
00:31:17 ◼ ► to the other person unless you know for one hundred percent sure that they are using the same program on the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1877">TS</a>]
00:31:24 ◼ ► That's a real problem Terry because sometimes you like try to make little stories out of your marriage you've got you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1884">TS</a>]
00:31:29 ◼ ► know you've got a gun pointing at something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1889">TS</a>]
00:31:31 ◼ ► and if the guns went to the other way around suddenly you've gone from shooting one thing to another thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1891">TS</a>]
00:31:35 ◼ ► and yet there's a lot of potential problems. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1895">TS</a>]
00:31:38 ◼ ► M O G they're really designed for interpersonal communication like you are talking to someone you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1898">TS</a>]
00:31:43 ◼ ► and you are trying to convey something jokey or emotional that is a difficult to do in very short sentences [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1903">TS</a>]
00:31:50 ◼ ► but as soon as you start talking about putting a Moji in a in a broader form it becomes very hard like sometimes I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1910">TS</a>]
00:31:58 ◼ ► think people want to put him O.G.'s on their web. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1918">TS</a>]
00:32:00 ◼ ► Do you know you don't know how that's going to render on somebody else's computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1920">TS</a>]
00:32:03 ◼ ► and I don't know I have mixed feelings about the M O G S but which is just weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1923">TS</a>]
00:32:09 ◼ ► and this is yet another weird thing about M O G S and the Apple ones are all so weird so weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1929">TS</a>]
00:32:14 ◼ ► and creepy if you look at the people I like that I've got a little Audrey and they cheat by accident so I like them. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1934">TS</a>]
00:32:21 ◼ ► Oh so the other thing someone pointed out the wolf face [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1941">TS</a>]
00:32:24 ◼ ► and maybe she had a sudden spike in not enough was the page where they describe a marriage itself had a sudden spike in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1944">TS</a>]
00:32:36 ◼ ► It nearly hit the top ten on a major Pedia after hello internet mentioned so we whatever however it renders we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1956">TS</a>]
00:32:44 ◼ ► responsible for a sudden surge in interest is like a great graph that shows as well. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1964">TS</a>]
00:32:49 ◼ ► We were responsible for a surge in interest in the the Waltham H.D. Which I feel I feel good about it now. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1969">TS</a>]
00:32:56 ◼ ► Our show notice they carry a lot of power. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1976">TS</a>]
00:32:58 ◼ ► People click on the show notes check things out can push the whole thing symposia to not quite the top ten. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1978">TS</a>]
00:33:06 ◼ ► I you know we must be careful how we have this great power when we left things in the future. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1986">TS</a>]
00:33:11 ◼ ► Yeah be careful take it easy take it easy with those things. Anyway thank you for pointing that out. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1991">TS</a>]
00:33:19 ◼ ► It made me feel good you know that follow up are good don't follow this hello internet episode has been brought to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/1999">TS</a>]
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00:34:57 ◼ ► and that is a person who I know column has names column Bloomfield. He worked for the B.B.C. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2097">TS</a>]
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00:35:10 ◼ ► and after a really amazing battle with skin cancer that he handled a total class and dignity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2110">TS</a>]
00:35:15 ◼ ► but also really tried to make a difference about cancer awareness. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2115">TS</a>]
00:35:19 ◼ ► Unfortunately colon recently died was very sad news [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2119">TS</a>]
00:35:23 ◼ ► but I just wanted to give him a quick mention here on the podcast as a top man who handled some terrible misfortune in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2123">TS</a>]
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00:35:36 ◼ ► and say some of what he did and Grahame even put in the show notes a link to a sort of a foundation or a trust [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2136">TS</a>]
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00:35:57 ◼ ► but if you if skin cancer is something that is on. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2157">TS</a>]
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00:36:05 ◼ ► Lincoln the Johnsons now I have I have another little thank you sort of sort of plug for lack of a better word that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2165">TS</a>]
00:36:13 ◼ ► should mention and that is today I am recording in an incredibly hot sound. Yeah go on over there. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2173">TS</a>]
00:36:20 ◼ ► When the door was closed I thought I know how that's going to go. Sound isolation is also heat. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2180">TS</a>]
00:36:27 ◼ ► Isolation is really starting to get very hot here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2187">TS</a>]
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00:36:49 ◼ ► So thank you to Logan from Ted for making this possible and giving me a bit of space. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2209">TS</a>]
00:36:56 ◼ ► but a space this is the same Logan who we mentioned on the previous episode who started that very interesting. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2216">TS</a>]
00:37:01 ◼ ► Call me Ishmael project on You Tube where people leave a voice mails about books that they like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2221">TS</a>]
00:37:08 ◼ ► And I'll tell you why people really need to check that out. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2228">TS</a>]
00:37:10 ◼ ► Gray I think it is such a clever idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2230">TS</a>]
00:37:14 ◼ ► and it's not getting the traction that it should on You Tube the viewer numbers not high enough what a cool idea it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2234">TS</a>]
00:37:20 ◼ ► and yet away from you talking to Logan there's all sorts of other cool projects [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2240">TS</a>]
00:37:24 ◼ ► and spin off things going on in bookstores and libraries and all these people are so excited about the project [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2244">TS</a>]
00:37:30 ◼ ► and he's got so many balls in the air and now as a result of it he's having all this success [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2250">TS</a>]
00:37:35 ◼ ► and you know on You Tube where you can just go and listen to these things for free and watch these nifty little videos. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2255">TS</a>]
00:37:40 ◼ ► It's not getting the traction it should. So I don't check it out. I tell you what. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2260">TS</a>]
00:37:46 ◼ ► I'm here saying how great it is you know you don't check it out etc etc And you know I am yet to leave a voice mail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2266">TS</a>]
00:37:53 ◼ ► about a book on it so I'm not practicing what I preach and you know what as you know I stopped me. What. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2273">TS</a>]
00:38:00 ◼ ► Choose a book because it's not about just recommending a book that you think is good. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2280">TS</a>]
00:38:04 ◼ ► I've kind of got this impression that all the people that call me Ishmael [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2284">TS</a>]
00:38:08 ◼ ► and leave a message always have these really touching stories about how booklet changed their life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2288">TS</a>]
00:38:13 ◼ ► or made a real impression on them and I read lots of books and I like lots of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2293">TS</a>]
00:38:18 ◼ ► but I can't think of one book that has like that changed me somehow. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2298">TS</a>]
00:38:22 ◼ ► Really have you go on if you were going to do a Call me Ishmael what book would you plucked from the shelf. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2302">TS</a>]
00:38:27 ◼ ► What's the book that you would like do a two minute message about and say this This book is important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2307">TS</a>]
00:38:33 ◼ ► Well call me a smale is is high stakes high high intensity there because you're calling a voicemail service you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2313">TS</a>]
00:38:41 ◼ ► have the chance to go back and edit what you're saying you've got to do it all right. All one that's left you hyper. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2321">TS</a>]
00:38:48 ◼ ► You're for me but it couldn't you couldn't you record like play it down all the kids take it yes. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2328">TS</a>]
00:38:54 ◼ ► Yes In total you know what the never even occurred to me. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2334">TS</a>]
00:38:57 ◼ ► You could totally take it or you could just talk to Logan because he might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2337">TS</a>]
00:39:00 ◼ ► and say Look can I send you a file as I think he probably would let you do that because the idea is that it is a phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2340">TS</a>]
00:39:06 ◼ ► and I think he has far too much integrity to allow me to cheat the system in that way is a pretty is a pretty straight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2346">TS</a>]
00:39:13 ◼ ► I'm just honestly surprised that you can't think of a single book that has had a major influence on your life because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2353">TS</a>]
00:39:20 ◼ ► you do you do read a significant amount. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2360">TS</a>]
00:39:23 ◼ ► Well I mean maybe that overstates the case but I do read books but it's like I read lots of books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2363">TS</a>]
00:39:29 ◼ ► and think that was also a man a brilliant Oh I wish I wrote or like it makes me think about some cool space thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2369">TS</a>]
00:39:36 ◼ ► or science e thing on Mount Everest or something like there are lots of books that I read and go that's awesome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2376">TS</a>]
00:39:40 ◼ ► and I want everyone else to read it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2380">TS</a>]
00:39:42 ◼ ► but I can't think of a book that's got this amazing story that made me think you know now I'm going to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2382">TS</a>]
00:39:46 ◼ ► and build an orphanage in South America now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2386">TS</a>]
00:39:50 ◼ ► and you know I can't think of anything that really has changed me as a person. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2390">TS</a>]
00:39:56 ◼ ► Immediately I can think of lots of things that have inspired me and made me. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2396">TS</a>]
00:40:00 ◼ ► I think about things and you know and all those things chip away at you and change you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2400">TS</a>]
00:40:04 ◼ ► but I can't think of one book that was like well I'm going to change the course of my life. Have you got one. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2404">TS</a>]
00:40:11 ◼ ► I have to I have two books that I can say. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2411">TS</a>]
00:40:14 ◼ ► Majorly change the course of my life one which is less interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2414">TS</a>]
00:40:19 ◼ ► and one which is probably a little bit more interesting. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2419">TS</a>]
00:40:21 ◼ ► So I go the less interesting one first of the messenger the one is vastly more important in some ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2421">TS</a>]
00:40:27 ◼ ► and that is getting things done by David Allen which I've mentioned before on the part of the book I really like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2427">TS</a>]
00:40:32 ◼ ► But there really was no joke in the book that allowed me to transition from I mean idiots who can't do anything. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2432">TS</a>]
00:40:41 ◼ ► Into Oh I'm an adult who can you know can be organized [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2441">TS</a>]
00:40:45 ◼ ► and change the course of my life I think that that book definitely had the biggest single impact of any book that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2445">TS</a>]
00:40:51 ◼ ► ever read. Say I say it like it could just if that be if the podcast and check it out call me Ishmael. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2451">TS</a>]
00:40:58 ◼ ► We have licensing licensing agreements I think if he's trying to have to give us to give have to give us a big cash yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2458">TS</a>]
00:41:05 ◼ ► take that one is no one is far less interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2465">TS</a>]
00:41:08 ◼ ► but it is it is really true I feel like there is a time in my life before I read Getting Things Done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2468">TS</a>]
00:41:13 ◼ ► and there was a time in my life after I have getting ready getting things done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2473">TS</a>]
00:41:17 ◼ ► and the people on either side of that divide are hugely hugely different people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2477">TS</a>]
00:41:22 ◼ ► and I just feel like I should maybe read that book at some point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2482">TS</a>]
00:41:25 ◼ ► but I hope maybe from what you know of my No I don't think anything would help your break I'm going to be honest here. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2485">TS</a>]
00:41:31 ◼ ► So I just you just are the way you are and I don't think anything can help you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2491">TS</a>]
00:41:36 ◼ ► but I also don't know if anything if you need anything to help you. You seem pretty happy. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2496">TS</a>]
00:41:43 ◼ ► What's your other book that started me down the course of deciding that I wanted to do physics as a major [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2503">TS</a>]
00:41:48 ◼ ► and going to college that I went to to do physics which was Stephen Hawking's A Brief History of Time which I know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2508">TS</a>]
00:41:57 ◼ ► understood that book. OK well. Here I read the illustrated edition back in high school which is beautiful by the way. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2517">TS</a>]
00:42:05 ◼ ► I still in my parents' house I still actually have it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2525">TS</a>]
00:42:08 ◼ ► It's a big big book that has these amazing diagrams on all the pages the diagrams they really help. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2528">TS</a>]
00:42:14 ◼ ► If you're going to read A Brief History of Time I highly suggest you get the illustrated version I was kind of not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2534">TS</a>]
00:42:20 ◼ ► really aware of physics before then. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2540">TS</a>]
00:42:23 ◼ ► It happens to be the way that my school did physics each year of science was all by itself. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2543">TS</a>]
00:42:28 ◼ ► So in freshman year we just did think it was all geology and then sophomore year we just did all biology [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2548">TS</a>]
00:42:37 ◼ ► and junior year it was all chemistry so you didn't have like how I taught here where it's mixed up every year so I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2557">TS</a>]
00:42:43 ◼ ► kind of floating along not really aware of physics and then I read the book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2563">TS</a>]
00:42:47 ◼ ► and I really liked it so that one that one definitely is a book that I can point to as having a big a big impact on my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2567">TS</a>]
00:42:56 ◼ ► All right well if you enjoy hearing that little vignette from Gray and you want to hear hundreds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2576">TS</a>]
00:43:01 ◼ ► and hundreds of more people talk about books I liked check out called me a smile and that will make like an happy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2581">TS</a>]
00:43:07 ◼ ► and manes he will let me use his booth again on a future trip to New York to record hello internet. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2587">TS</a>]
00:43:12 ◼ ► And that's end game for me for you. Yeah and it's a good sign and lichens a good man. Let's move on. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2592">TS</a>]
00:43:18 ◼ ► He has had he has had more than enough commotion I think. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2598">TS</a>]
00:43:26 ◼ ► and I've bought him tickets for the bicycle to not baseball left alone shuttlecocks right now baseball [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2606">TS</a>]
00:43:32 ◼ ► but I suppose the one where they throw the ball [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2612">TS</a>]
00:43:34 ◼ ► or throw the ball they don't roll it I'm going to the Yankees versus the Mets. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2614">TS</a>]
00:43:38 ◼ ► Does anybody die in those games to the shoot the players in front of you if they don't do well is that how that works. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2618">TS</a>]
00:43:44 ◼ ► No not that I've ever say I hope they don't. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2624">TS</a>]
00:43:50 ◼ ► You must you know it might by sport by sport so boring so boring you know just boring but you understand that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2630">TS</a>]
00:43:57 ◼ ► but you do kind of understand the rules of that one. Yes just because it's like it's in your D.N.A. Isn't it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2637">TS</a>]
00:44:02 ◼ ► Because I had to play it in Jim and I would always remember far left field is the position that you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2642">TS</a>]
00:44:07 ◼ ► when you play in gym and you don't want to purchase a far left or right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2647">TS</a>]
00:44:11 ◼ ► I would always go for is far left field and there just is no such thing as far left field daydreaming. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2651">TS</a>]
00:44:17 ◼ ► Look at it and then every once in a while the ball would come near me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2657">TS</a>]
00:44:20 ◼ ► and that I would pay money to see you playing baseball like that would just make me laugh. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2660">TS</a>]
00:44:28 ◼ ► I'm just imagining you like swinging a bat and then running to first base [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2668">TS</a>]
00:44:32 ◼ ► and actually is making me smile like the problem was always the being in the outfield [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2672">TS</a>]
00:44:39 ◼ ► and trying to do like the catches and fast passes I could you know that was just hopeless. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2679">TS</a>]
00:44:42 ◼ ► Actually just hitting the ball I was pretty good at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2682">TS</a>]
00:44:44 ◼ ► and that's super satisfying if you play baseball even for someone who has no interest in sports I would never do it on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2684">TS</a>]
00:44:51 ◼ ► when you hit the baseball that that crack of the bat is a very satisfying enjoyable experience so I have played [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2691">TS</a>]
00:44:58 ◼ ► baseball feel a little bit proud of you. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2698">TS</a>]
00:45:02 ◼ ► The thing I can imagine though is you running like you running just doesn't come into my head very easily. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2702">TS</a>]
00:45:07 ◼ ► I was very briefly on the track team because I had to be. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2707">TS</a>]
00:45:10 ◼ ► Really you know this is a parental requirement that I try some sports and I don't know why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2710">TS</a>]
00:45:16 ◼ ► but somehow I thought track would be the easiest because it wasn't a team sports so I was thinking everybody could just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2716">TS</a>]
00:45:23 ◼ ► leave me alone I go I just have to run around in the circle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2723">TS</a>]
00:45:26 ◼ ► but I don't have to interact with the other people fine I can do this but I really hate a track [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2726">TS</a>]
00:45:29 ◼ ► and I give it up as soon as I possibly could but I was very briefly on the track team. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2729">TS</a>]
00:45:34 ◼ ► I can't imagine you're running action. I just can't imagine what that would be like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2734">TS</a>]
00:45:37 ◼ ► It's amazing Brady I don't like to run but when I do run it is majestic. You're good. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2737">TS</a>]
00:45:42 ◼ ► Yeah it's like watching Tom Cruise run it's just amazing it's cinematic is what it is I just you have to do with Pitt's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2742">TS</a>]
00:45:50 ◼ ► crack at the high speed camera some time it makes a video as if you are reading now is not going to happen every time. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2750">TS</a>]
00:45:57 ◼ ► OK we have to move on because you have. Written in the show notes bra shopping. Are you shopping for bras Brady. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2757">TS</a>]
00:46:04 ◼ ► I this is a topic that I am already regretting. Too late now. Yeah let's do this. Came about the other day. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2764">TS</a>]
00:46:15 ◼ ► Basically you know my wife would enjoy shopping for clothes. She's a very she's a very fashionable woman she is. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2775">TS</a>]
00:46:21 ◼ ► I quite enjoy going with her and she will be looking at dresses and all the different things that she looks at me. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2781">TS</a>]
00:46:27 ◼ ► She asks my opinion and I try to give them and I know actually what I really enjoy sort of going off on my own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2787">TS</a>]
00:46:34 ◼ ► and finding something that I think she would like and like bringing it to her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2794">TS</a>]
00:46:36 ◼ ► and going what do you think of this I think this is your style [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2796">TS</a>]
00:46:39 ◼ ► and she'll be like oh it is you know I feel really proud when I manage that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2799">TS</a>]
00:46:43 ◼ ► And she looked and she likes what I found so I am not averse to clothes shopping but there is a problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2803">TS</a>]
00:46:50 ◼ ► and I know this is like discipline. This must surely only apply to men who have female partners. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2810">TS</a>]
00:47:00 ◼ ► I can't think what other configuration this would cause the same level of awkwardness to live anyway. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2820">TS</a>]
00:47:06 ◼ ► Being a man who has a female partner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2826">TS</a>]
00:47:09 ◼ ► when she ventures into the bra section of the shop I find this a very very difficult [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2829">TS</a>]
00:47:16 ◼ ► and very awkward to know what to do because at that point I can browse on my own really. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2836">TS</a>]
00:47:23 ◼ ► Because that I think that looks a bit unusual. If you could. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2843">TS</a>]
00:47:27 ◼ ► Yeah yeah I could of course and I know there are men who you know of to buy luxury for that for their partner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2847">TS</a>]
00:47:32 ◼ ► but you know yeah you don't need to stick to traditional gender stereotypes here Brady you can you can be a new modern [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2852">TS</a>]
00:47:38 ◼ ► man and let But also when I'm really bad habit of like i'm quite tactile [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2858">TS</a>]
00:47:44 ◼ ► when I'm shopping so I like to strike all the fabric and stuff and I think if I'm just like you stroke the microphone. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2864">TS</a>]
00:47:50 ◼ ► Yeah exactly like I'm a bit of a fidget and so if I'm looking at dresses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2870">TS</a>]
00:47:53 ◼ ► and I feel quite comfortable sort of striking all the dresses in the fabric to see what what they're like if I'm in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2873">TS</a>]
00:47:59 ◼ ► if I'm in the. Section I feel like I would look a bit wrong if I'm like streaking streaking underwear. No no no. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2879">TS</a>]
00:48:08 ◼ ► Brady You have to you have to touch it to know the quality of the material so I don't see why you should definitely go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2888">TS</a>]
00:48:14 ◼ ► ahead with this behavior but I don't feel comfortable being like I know this is my insecurities and the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2894">TS</a>]
00:48:19 ◼ ► and the other thing is I find if I'm in the you know dress section I'm quite comfortable making eye contact with other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2899">TS</a>]
00:48:27 ◼ ► women and smiling at them and you know how you going and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2907">TS</a>]
00:48:30 ◼ ► but if I'm in the brass section Suddenly I feel like if I'm looking like another woman shopping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2910">TS</a>]
00:48:35 ◼ ► and she's like she's looking at us and then she looks up and sees me looking at. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2915">TS</a>]
00:48:40 ◼ ► I feel a bit creepy but oh what should you brush up. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2920">TS</a>]
00:48:43 ◼ ► I feel I feel like a bit of a weird i don't know I'm not and I can I know this is just one securities. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2923">TS</a>]
00:48:49 ◼ ► Anyway while this was happening the thing that occurred to me was what to see G.P. Grade what would you do. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2929">TS</a>]
00:48:57 ◼ ► Do you like because like I find myself in this situation and it seems like an awkward situation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2937">TS</a>]
00:49:03 ◼ ► and as I said I thought to myself that Gray doesn't even do this a bit he just walks away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2943">TS</a>]
00:49:07 ◼ ► but then I realized I didn't so I thought I'm going to ask OK Do you brush up on your own with your wife do you have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2947">TS</a>]
00:49:16 ◼ ► section policy. OK So here's the thing with us Brady. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2956">TS</a>]
00:49:23 ◼ ► I think we are sometimes so different we can't even conceive of the level of difference in the other person because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2963">TS</a>]
00:49:31 ◼ ► dimly knew what you wanted to talk about with us. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2971">TS</a>]
00:49:34 ◼ ► OK I have a guess of where he's going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2974">TS</a>]
00:49:37 ◼ ► but right out of the gate your story was just totally different from what I was expecting. What were you expecting. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2977">TS</a>]
00:49:42 ◼ ► Well I was expecting the much more standard version of the story which is that you get dragged shopping with your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2982">TS</a>]
00:49:49 ◼ ► partner and that you you have to tag along and then you find yourself in the bra section and oh isn't it embarrassing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2989">TS</a>]
00:49:56 ◼ ► I didn't realize that you were gleeful to go along. On the shopping expedition. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/2996">TS</a>]
00:50:01 ◼ ► Not only gleeful but but actively participating in your honour's shopping expedition hunting I was bringing them back. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3001">TS</a>]
00:50:09 ◼ ► This is amazing to me I can even understand. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3009">TS</a>]
00:50:11 ◼ ► Well I wouldn't say gleeful like clearly the thing I wanted to look at the gadgets and technology and things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3011">TS</a>]
00:50:18 ◼ ► or look like things that are interesting to me and my wife [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3018">TS</a>]
00:50:22 ◼ ► and I share a lot of things we find interesting that can share in a chair maybe or we both like and takes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3022">TS</a>]
00:50:28 ◼ ► and because she wants to look at clothes happy to do that like I said like I say there's a little challenge. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3028">TS</a>]
00:50:35 ◼ ► I wouldn't like beg to go clothes shopping but I don't even like clothes shopping for men's clothes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3035">TS</a>]
00:50:40 ◼ ► but that I would do it so I would say I would say I begged or gleeful but I do do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3040">TS</a>]
00:50:45 ◼ ► but it is exactly as you described then when I find myself in the brass action. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3045">TS</a>]
00:50:49 ◼ ► Look I'm supportive unlike you know I get a supportive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3049">TS</a>]
00:50:52 ◼ ► and I'm willing to do it because you know I want to help my wife and join her for the expedition. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3052">TS</a>]
00:50:58 ◼ ► But that's the area where I suddenly feel out of my depth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3058">TS</a>]
00:51:01 ◼ ► and a bit like I just haven't learned how to do it yet I haven't learned how to do a CO because I'm just maybe not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3061">TS</a>]
00:51:07 ◼ ► cool guy. So where you just you just don't go clothes shopping at all or like where do you stand on this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3067">TS</a>]
00:51:14 ◼ ► Many many years ago before I met the woman who would become my wife when I was involved in relations with other women. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3074">TS</a>]
00:51:24 ◼ ► I remember getting dragged along for clothes shopping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3084">TS</a>]
00:51:27 ◼ ► and because there was I was a younger person a person who wasn't thinking about how their life is going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3087">TS</a>]
00:51:35 ◼ ► and the way things work in the world. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3095">TS</a>]
00:51:37 ◼ ► I just went along with this because it's what you see everybody else do you go into any any clothing shop primarily for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3097">TS</a>]
00:51:45 ◼ ► women and you will see a bunch of men kind of loitering around. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3105">TS</a>]
00:51:49 ◼ ► Yeah usually burdened like alpacas right with with bags slung over their backs that they are that they are carrying. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3109">TS</a>]
00:51:58 ◼ ► And so I did this too. As a much younger person. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3118">TS</a>]
00:52:02 ◼ ► But one day there was a particular shopping trip which lasted a very long time. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3122">TS</a>]
00:52:11 ◼ ► but I feel like it was a full work days worth of shopping for clothing with a particular person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3131">TS</a>]
00:52:18 ◼ ► and this was supposed to be the weekend and I know I was going to have a whole day to myself. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3138">TS</a>]
00:52:22 ◼ ► I know you have a whole day under fluorescent lighting looking at clothing that's not even for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3142">TS</a>]
00:52:27 ◼ ► and having having to have your input asked on a thousand tiny decisions. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3147">TS</a>]
00:52:33 ◼ ► That's really the exhausting part of of this is it's not even it's not even the being there it's the thousand little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3153">TS</a>]
00:52:39 ◼ ► decisions it just melts your brain into a pool of nothingness. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3159">TS</a>]
00:52:44 ◼ ► After this this particularly long shopping event I was pushed over my limit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3164">TS</a>]
00:52:49 ◼ ► and I decided hey wait a minute I don't have to do this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3169">TS</a>]
00:52:56 ◼ ► There's no there's no I don't need to do that I don't need to give up my weekends to go clothing shopping for another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3176">TS</a>]
00:53:00 ◼ ► person. If someone asked me to go clothing shopping with them the answer is just no no I'm not going clothing shopping. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3180">TS</a>]
00:53:07 ◼ ► I have no interest in this and I will be of no help and it will be just a total misery and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3187">TS</a>]
00:53:13 ◼ ► and no I'm not going to do this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3193">TS</a>]
00:53:14 ◼ ► So from that day onward I have not gone clothing shopping with any of the partners in my life now very luckily my wife [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3194">TS</a>]
00:53:24 ◼ ► never even knew about this policy because she never even asked me to ever to go clothing shopping with her it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3204">TS</a>]
00:53:31 ◼ ► never occur to her to bring me along clothing shopping so this is this works out very well. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3211">TS</a>]
00:53:37 ◼ ► She doesn't want me to go and I don't want to go. And we're both very happy. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3217">TS</a>]
00:53:43 ◼ ► but do you know she doesn't want me to think maybe she might get pleasure from you being there and helping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3223">TS</a>]
00:53:47 ◼ ► and now you know she does not want me there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3227">TS</a>]
00:53:50 ◼ ► but she doesn't want you there probably because you're a grumpy Guess who doesn't like it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3230">TS</a>]
00:53:53 ◼ ► But would she want you there if you will like being helpful and supportive and interested. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3233">TS</a>]
00:53:58 ◼ ► She doesn't want it she doesn't want me there because. If she doesn't want to be there either. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3238">TS</a>]
00:54:01 ◼ ► She will if she wants to go shopping and get stuff done as fast as possible and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3241">TS</a>]
00:54:06 ◼ ► when you do with two people I think now it's like an outing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3246">TS</a>]
00:54:10 ◼ ► It's just much slower and it never crossed my mind but my wife has very often complained that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3250">TS</a>]
00:54:15 ◼ ► when she goes shopping she has to deal with all of these partners of the other women in the stores blocking the aisles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3255">TS</a>]
00:54:23 ◼ ► getting in the way because they don't know where to stand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3263">TS</a>]
00:54:26 ◼ ► and because they're in the bra section they can't make eye contact. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3266">TS</a>]
00:54:29 ◼ ► You can't make like the can you move to the side gesture because they're just looking at their feet on the you know on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3269">TS</a>]
00:54:35 ◼ ► the floor trying to get out of the way so my wife is frustrated by the other men in the women's clothing department who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3275">TS</a>]
00:54:41 ◼ ► obviously don't want to be there who are just sad sacks who are beasts of burden and holding up a bunch of bags [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3281">TS</a>]
00:54:47 ◼ ► and you know what let me take this moment. Let me use that like the power of the podcast here. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3287">TS</a>]
00:54:54 ◼ ► If you're a guy listening to me right now and your arms are getting sore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3294">TS</a>]
00:54:59 ◼ ► and tired from the bags of clothing that you are holding right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3299">TS</a>]
00:55:03 ◼ ► and you're listening to a podcast to try to escape the horrible drudgery of following your partner around on a shopping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3303">TS</a>]
00:55:11 ◼ ► expedition on the weekend perhaps perhaps that Sunday you could be doing all kinds of great stuff watching sports ball [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3311">TS</a>]
00:55:18 ◼ ► on the T.V. Instead or something I don't know whatever. Whatever you do. World of Warcraft thing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3318">TS</a>]
00:55:24 ◼ ► You still have to finish this today because you've already agreed to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3324">TS</a>]
00:55:28 ◼ ► but in the future you don't have to you don't have to go along with this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3328">TS</a>]
00:55:32 ◼ ► You're a grown person your partner is presumably a grown person. You can each shop for clothing on your own. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3332">TS</a>]
00:55:39 ◼ ► Separately you don't have to do this together. Live a freer happier life. Say no. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3339">TS</a>]
00:55:45 ◼ ► K'Naan aspect to the to the same table. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3345">TS</a>]
00:55:48 ◼ ► Sure if you are a man shopping with with a woman you have a female partner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3348">TS</a>]
00:55:54 ◼ ► and that is something that gives her pleasure. Enjoy it as well enjoy her pleasure. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3354">TS</a>]
00:56:00 ◼ ► Doing things together makes you closer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3360">TS</a>]
00:56:02 ◼ ► and doing things that make her happy with you is a positive experience doing things both enjoy is a positive experience. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3362">TS</a>]
00:56:10 ◼ ► If you don't enjoy it but she wants you to be there for support be it moral or financial also even better also. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3370">TS</a>]
00:56:20 ◼ ► Oh say oh say enjoy that because one day you will both be old and slow and I'm happy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3380">TS</a>]
00:56:29 ◼ ► and you're not going to sit there thinking I wish I'd done more things on my own. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3389">TS</a>]
00:56:33 ◼ ► You're probably going to sit there thinking I wish I did more things with my partner. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3393">TS</a>]
00:56:38 ◼ ► And finally one final one final thing if you like me find yourself in the brass section [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3398">TS</a>]
00:56:44 ◼ ► and you have figured out how to make that work. Do let me know because because I can't figure it out. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3404">TS</a>]
00:56:52 ◼ ► And obviously Gray is going to be no help whatsoever. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3412">TS</a>]
00:56:54 ◼ ► I am like the most help that I could possibly be I want to give you time back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3414">TS</a>]
00:56:58 ◼ ► and take you out of this situation for which there is no way to win I don't want to I don't want to spend less time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3418">TS</a>]
00:57:03 ◼ ► with my life I don't think there are very many men who have on their deathbed thought I wish I did more clothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3423">TS</a>]
00:57:10 ◼ ► shopping. Well that's the way you're presenting that there I don't think that that's accurate. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3430">TS</a>]
00:57:15 ◼ ► Well you're right we act we are quite different and pretty much a kind of half expected this result like when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3435">TS</a>]
00:57:22 ◼ ► when I sent you that text from the brass section of the shop which was awkward in itself because I was taking out my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3442">TS</a>]
00:57:27 ◼ ► phone which doubles as a camera these days right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3447">TS</a>]
00:57:30 ◼ ► I did think I pick grain everything finds himself in these brass sections no he would just because he's a stubborn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3450">TS</a>]
00:57:36 ◼ ► and which is refused to be anywhere he doesn't obey several knots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3456">TS</a>]
00:57:40 ◼ ► or you know you know you know it's you know you turn these things at the very end into something something more than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3460">TS</a>]
00:57:47 ◼ ► they are it's you always do that that's your annulling Yes but I don't accept the other example [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3467">TS</a>]
00:57:54 ◼ ► and I will just broaden it out into oh he never does anything that he doesn't like for his pa. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3474">TS</a>]
00:58:00 ◼ ► Never you know that's not at all the situation but I do but I just did enjoy anyway to the degree that was taking it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3480">TS</a>]
00:58:08 ◼ ► and I like to leave you twisting in the wind. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3488">TS</a>]
00:58:10 ◼ ► Yeah yeah exactly if you want to get the final word in and let you look like oh look at you the chief hero Brady [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3490">TS</a>]
00:58:16 ◼ ► and all that but it means that your hero I'm a creepy weird guy staring at his shoes in the brass section. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3496">TS</a>]
00:58:22 ◼ ► There you are that's not a hero. I can save you from that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3502">TS</a>]
00:58:25 ◼ ► OK Well thank you for your advice is kind of what I expected but it's still interesting to hear. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3505">TS</a>]
00:58:32 ◼ ► Can you just wait somewhere else. Yeah but it's not like it takes that long. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3512">TS</a>]
00:58:37 ◼ ► Sometimes if my wife and I are out and she happens to see something in a store that she's interested in. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3517">TS</a>]
00:58:43 ◼ ► Yes she'll pop in really quick to take a look. Many stores have what is very obviously set up as the man waiting area. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3523">TS</a>]
00:58:51 ◼ ► They'll have like a little chair at the front which is so clearly for husbands of things to wait in these expeditions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3531">TS</a>]
00:58:57 ◼ ► with my wife last minutes because she knows that my patience will run very short [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3537">TS</a>]
00:59:01 ◼ ► but surely there is some place that you can just retreat for a few moments while the bra shopping is being done. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3541">TS</a>]
00:59:07 ◼ ► Like you don't really need to be there. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3547">TS</a>]
00:59:10 ◼ ► If it's going to be lengthy and there's another place within like a line sometimes I will go but I don't know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3550">TS</a>]
00:59:16 ◼ ► I think I think I think my wife appreciates appreciates sort of important. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3556">TS</a>]
00:59:20 ◼ ► She wants to do things together and Lord knows you know I'm in New York for two weeks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3560">TS</a>]
00:59:25 ◼ ► and Lord knows I spend enough time away anyway. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3565">TS</a>]
00:59:29 ◼ ► I think we have spend more time talking about bras than I thought we ever would in the history of this broadcast today. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3569">TS</a>]
00:59:39 ◼ ► Hello Internet is sponsored by audible dot com It's almost impossible to believe at this point that someone might not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3579">TS</a>]
00:59:45 ◼ ► know what audible is but in case you don't they are quote the leading provider of spoken audio information [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3585">TS</a>]
00:59:51 ◼ ► and entertainment. Basically audio books I listen to a lot of them. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3591">TS</a>]
00:59:55 ◼ ► You should listen to a lot of them as Brady and I discussed before. A good book. Can Change Your Life. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3595">TS</a>]
01:00:01 ◼ ► We're mentioning sciences stuff before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3601">TS</a>]
01:00:03 ◼ ► and so today I'm going to pick a science recommendation which is A Short History of Nearly Everything by Bill Bryson. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3603">TS</a>]
01:00:13 ◼ ► This is a different book from A Brief History of Time by Stephen Hawking which of course is also an audible because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3613">TS</a>]
01:00:19 ◼ ► they have one hundred thousand plus books. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3619">TS</a>]
01:00:22 ◼ ► But today I'm recommending A Short History of Nearly Everything by Bill Bryson. It is a very enjoyable listen. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3622">TS</a>]
01:00:30 ◼ ► That is kind of an overview of all of the history of all of the various sciences put together. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3630">TS</a>]
01:00:37 ◼ ► And Bryson who I have recommended before as an author that I quite like does a really great job of just approaching all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3637">TS</a>]
01:00:45 ◼ ► of these various topics and he has a unique knack for explaining things in a very funny way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3645">TS</a>]
01:00:50 ◼ ► and big portions of the book take place here in London at the Natural History Museum which. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3650">TS</a>]
01:00:56 ◼ ► If you've ever read the book. Visiting the museum then is a much more in-depth experience. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3656">TS</a>]
01:01:04 ◼ ► and I also listened to the audio book which is done by Richard Matthews who just has a great great narration voice that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3664">TS</a>]
01:01:14 ◼ ► And as you may know if you are plugged into the Amazon ecosystem you can switch back and forth between the two. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3674">TS</a>]
01:01:20 ◼ ► Read it on your Kindle Paperwhite and then listen to it on your audio player of choice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3680">TS</a>]
01:01:25 ◼ ► and Amazon will keep everything synchronized between the two. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3685">TS</a>]
01:01:29 ◼ ► So if you want to listen to it audible has it with a zillion books in every genre covering just about everything you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3689">TS</a>]
01:01:39 ◼ ► Now if you go to audible dot com slash hello internet you can listen to A Brief History of Nearly Everything by Bryson [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3699">TS</a>]
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01:02:03 ◼ ► Link will be in the show notes for you. Brief History of Nearly Everything. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3723">TS</a>]
01:02:08 ◼ ► BILL BRYSON learn about a bunch of interesting science history with a very pleasant narration. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3728">TS</a>]
01:02:16 ◼ ► Should we move on should we move on to something else that is in the area of retail. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3736">TS</a>]
01:02:19 ◼ ► OK I will move on to something else what's next and you know what it is it's a Brady's papercut. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3739">TS</a>]
01:02:23 ◼ ► Oh Brady's paper it's been a long time since the Brady's papercut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3743">TS</a>]
01:02:27 ◼ ► but he's paid a little song we have got a song there is a very respected song [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3747">TS</a>]
01:02:30 ◼ ► but obviously there's yeah there is like a whole thing people can go much to if they want their lives elsewhere. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3750">TS</a>]
01:02:36 ◼ ► Today my paper is automated checkouts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3756">TS</a>]
01:02:42 ◼ ► or an automated self serve checkouts Is that what they call me like at the supermarket or various stores [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3762">TS</a>]
01:02:47 ◼ ► but yet supermarkets and other stores that are little convenience stores things like that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3767">TS</a>]
01:02:52 ◼ ► Yeah I cannot tell you how much I dislike these things now. Come on man and my dislike for them is ever increasing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3772">TS</a>]
01:03:04 ◼ ► Yeah. OK I'm sorry I should interrupt straight away. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3784">TS</a>]
01:03:08 ◼ ► I just can't tell me what tell me what it is I'm just reading a few little subtle nuances in your reaction here. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3788">TS</a>]
01:03:15 ◼ ► Listen they might be a mighty lately they might be one of the greatest inventions of mankind. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3795">TS</a>]
01:03:23 ◼ ► They're just I think that I got today that the only basis you were if you were inventions have made my life faster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3803">TS</a>]
01:03:34 ◼ ► better easier and more pleasurable on a daily experience than the automated phone to tell me that my thing slower [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3814">TS</a>]
01:03:40 ◼ ► and less pleasurable. You just don't know how to communicate with the machines I think is the problem. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3820">TS</a>]
01:03:45 ◼ ► It's OK Just tell me tell me what it is what is it that's what's so bad about the best thing ever. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3825">TS</a>]
01:03:51 ◼ ► I do find them a bit finicky and like sometimes they don't work properly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3831">TS</a>]
01:03:55 ◼ ► when to call for help anyway I feel like that a lot slower because I'm not free. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3835">TS</a>]
01:04:00 ◼ ► If I asked you know putting things in the bags anyway so I slows it slows me down. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3840">TS</a>]
01:04:05 ◼ ► I find like sometimes they don't scan or a cough on the barcode or then something goes wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3845">TS</a>]
01:04:10 ◼ ► and the person's going to come over with a magic swipe anything to override the machine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3850">TS</a>]
01:04:15 ◼ ► and give permission for something and then you've got a you're going to do everything yourself with the paying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3855">TS</a>]
01:04:20 ◼ ► and I won't accept the money or the there's a problem with it and also because the becoming so omni present [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3860">TS</a>]
01:04:26 ◼ ► and they having less and less real stuff that becoming just massive queues for them anyway. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3866">TS</a>]
01:04:32 ◼ ► So Dog you're still waiting in a huge queue to get through anyway and it's taking away. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3872">TS</a>]
01:04:37 ◼ ► Yes Here I'm going to say it's taking away another level of human interactions where I can just like be talking to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3877">TS</a>]
01:04:46 ◼ ► Scanning things and is experienced at using bags and can do it quicker than me anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3886">TS</a>]
01:04:51 ◼ ► and it's just a nice little it's a nice moment where you get served by someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3891">TS</a>]
01:04:54 ◼ ► and so I think even if even if you don't have that fake hello how's your day. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3894">TS</a>]
01:04:59 ◼ ► It's just an interaction with a human that I like I just they do my head in. Dislike them and. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3899">TS</a>]
01:05:06 ◼ ► That you know they've been around for a while now and my feelings towards them. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3906">TS</a>]
01:05:11 ◼ ► Not like I'm not softening I'm hating them more like a lot of technologies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3911">TS</a>]
01:05:15 ◼ ► when they're new on the go how does this work and then after a month [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3915">TS</a>]
01:05:18 ◼ ► or two I'm like oh I could never have lived without it automated checkouts I'm not going in that direction. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3918">TS</a>]
01:05:24 ◼ ► Automatic check outs are going in the opposite direction and I know you're Mr robots will take over the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3924">TS</a>]
01:05:29 ◼ ► and of course are going to think the opposite to me but it is a paper of mine on a daily basis [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3929">TS</a>]
01:05:34 ◼ ► and I'm hating them more and more. The robots taking people's jobs thing is a whole separate issue. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3934">TS</a>]
01:05:38 ◼ ► Putting aside the massive unemployment these things might cause which wouldn't be good for my own personal self is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3938">TS</a>]
01:05:43 ◼ ► experience that is the greatest almost you know aside from the Starbucks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3943">TS</a>]
01:05:48 ◼ ► and as we've discussed many times a whole bunch of the little stores on my my Erin's routines places I need to go have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3948">TS</a>]
01:05:56 ◼ ► the automated checkouts and it's great. I can hit like four. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3956">TS</a>]
01:06:00 ◼ ► Our stories without having to talk to anybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3960">TS</a>]
01:06:02 ◼ ► and if you know how to use them they're faster I mean I do see you know little old ladies get confused with the scanner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3962">TS</a>]
01:06:10 ◼ ► and it deals with them and then the person has to come over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3970">TS</a>]
01:06:12 ◼ ► and of course for that person it takes way longer than it does if you if you can use the machine competently. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3972">TS</a>]
01:06:18 ◼ ► But if you know what you're doing it's just a crazy bam right in the store grab a thing scan a boop boop boop. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3978">TS</a>]
01:06:24 ◼ ► Here's the card it's even it's even more magic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3984">TS</a>]
01:06:26 ◼ ► when they have the contactless cards here if you just tap the card happily on top of the machine. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3986">TS</a>]
01:06:31 ◼ ► It goes right everything's fine the transactions through out you go. You don't even have to pick up the receipt. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3991">TS</a>]
01:06:36 ◼ ► If it's so nice it's so great I love everything about it and if you don't put it in the bag [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/3996">TS</a>]
01:06:42 ◼ ► and like you know three point two seconds it's like oh you have a bagging area malfunction problem they're always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4002">TS</a>]
01:06:48 ◼ ► telling you off and they're yelling at you and looking instructions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4008">TS</a>]
01:06:51 ◼ ► and this has happened the first couple times they use a checkout machine and now maybe. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4011">TS</a>]
01:06:57 ◼ ► One in a hundred times now this this thing happens because others didn't put the bag in the check out. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4017">TS</a>]
01:07:03 ◼ ► You do miss what is that misplaced item in bagging area or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4023">TS</a>]
01:07:06 ◼ ► but almost always just take the thing out put it back in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4026">TS</a>]
01:07:08 ◼ ► and it's fine two seconds later this this is not some huge problem unless you're just completely incapable of scanning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4028">TS</a>]
01:07:15 ◼ ► and packing something at the same time. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4035">TS</a>]
01:07:18 ◼ ► Well maybe there is may I may not use them of course I use them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4038">TS</a>]
01:07:22 ◼ ► and let you know I think I'm above average intelligence like my fellow man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4042">TS</a>]
01:07:27 ◼ ► or you know at least somewhere near the middle and I have problems with them I don't enjoy them. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4047">TS</a>]
01:07:32 ◼ ► And once you go on the line for the people then there's almost always a people on by I will I will always go in alone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4052">TS</a>]
01:07:38 ◼ ► for the people if I care if one exists and it's not onerous compared to if it's a fifty fifty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4058">TS</a>]
01:07:45 ◼ ► or sixty forty proposition I will go to the person the other day I was using one just two days ago here in New York [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4065">TS</a>]
01:07:52 ◼ ► and it didn't work it was a problem with and I think it was the machine's fault [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4072">TS</a>]
01:07:57 ◼ ► and I wasn't going to I was only buy two. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4077">TS</a>]
01:08:00 ◼ ► They autumns and I'm like a turn to the Hill there was a woman behind the counter another woman there. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4080">TS</a>]
01:08:05 ◼ ► This isn't working and they're like Oh sorry it's not working and I said Can you just put this through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4085">TS</a>]
01:08:11 ◼ ► and she was on and I go over to the other one the other one over there is working [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4091">TS</a>]
01:08:14 ◼ ► and I said I was standing in front of her with the stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4094">TS</a>]
01:08:17 ◼ ► and I said no can't you just say I'm standing in front of you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4097">TS</a>]
01:08:21 ◼ ► and this stuff we're like scared of dealing with me now and then I go over there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4101">TS</a>]
01:08:25 ◼ ► and use the machine I'm like you've got the thing right in front of you or you're serving someone two seconds ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4105">TS</a>]
01:08:30 ◼ ► and I just shoved in their face and said put it these are the charming human interaction that you miss [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4110">TS</a>]
01:08:36 ◼ ► and people are afraid of you in the stores. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4116">TS</a>]
01:08:38 ◼ ► Well yeah because these were like C G P great people who were like oh no we don't want to we just want you to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4118">TS</a>]
01:08:43 ◼ ► and use machines. Now if I had a great people that's what it is because those are social skills failing there. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4123">TS</a>]
01:08:52 ◼ ► Of course no surprise to anybody I am resentful. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4132">TS</a>]
01:08:55 ◼ ► There's one supermarket in particular which should obviously have self checkout machines that I sometimes have to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4135">TS</a>]
01:09:00 ◼ ► and it doesn't say how great you just have a bunch of humans here this is the worst [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4140">TS</a>]
01:09:05 ◼ ► but my most frequent supermarket I'm irritated because they only have a single line that feeds into both machines [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4145">TS</a>]
01:09:13 ◼ ► and humans and that's great now I don't have the choice behind him the total weirdo who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4153">TS</a>]
01:09:19 ◼ ► when I get to the front of the line. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4159">TS</a>]
01:09:21 ◼ ► If one of the humans waves me over I will let the person behind me go ahead and I will wait for machine. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4161">TS</a>]
01:09:28 ◼ ► I would much rather have the machine than an actual person. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4168">TS</a>]
01:09:31 ◼ ► It does sometimes seem a bit awkward if I happen to wave a couple people through in a row like no I'd much rather use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4171">TS</a>]
01:09:38 ◼ ► This way I also don't have a you know some person who's touching other people all day long touching their cards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4178">TS</a>]
01:09:44 ◼ ► touching their things then touching my things as well. No no thank you. This way I handle the bags. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4184">TS</a>]
01:09:49 ◼ ► I check it out on the machine and I never have any problems with the machines or exceedingly rarely. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4189">TS</a>]
01:09:55 ◼ ► Exceedingly rarely It's great to the Great. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4195">TS</a>]
01:10:01 ◼ ► I think you just you just need to figure out how to competently use a machine. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4201">TS</a>]
01:10:07 ◼ ► Yeah and maybe you need to figure out how to competently talk to a human. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4207">TS</a>]
01:10:12 ◼ ► Nope I don't need to do the futures go on my way on this right everything's coming up D.G.P. Gray. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4212">TS</a>]
01:10:18 ◼ ► Yeah yeah everything's coming up the world is getting crazier by the day. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4218">TS</a>]
01:10:23 ◼ ► I mean that the tray of beautiful you know metal so it will live in a world with no color whatsoever I am very happy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4223">TS</a>]
01:10:32 ◼ ► that once again the application that runs my entire life. The focus is back sponsoring the show. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4232">TS</a>]
01:10:41 ◼ ► The focus is a complete task management system for your life if you want to just keep simple to do list items. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4241">TS</a>]
01:10:51 ◼ ► If like me you want to have hundreds of projects and thousands of actions all track together in one system. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4251">TS</a>]
01:10:57 ◼ ► And have crazy complicated repeating templates that use external scripting methods Omni Focus can do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4257">TS</a>]
01:11:04 ◼ ► but it doesn't have to. It can be exactly the amount of To-Do list that you need you need a lot. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4264">TS</a>]
01:11:12 ◼ ► It can be a lot you need a little it can be a little and it's everywhere you need it to be all day long. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4272">TS</a>]
01:11:20 ◼ ► I actually have it set up so that when my computer turns on Omni Focus automatically turns on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4280">TS</a>]
01:11:25 ◼ ► and you can also have me focus on your phone and your i Pad and now your fancy Apple Watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4285">TS</a>]
01:11:30 ◼ ► and it all sinks together with their omnipresence system which is custom designed just for Omni Focus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4290">TS</a>]
01:11:38 ◼ ► and a bunch of the other amazing programs by the Omni group most of which I also use one of the biggest features for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4298">TS</a>]
01:11:45 ◼ ► about Omni Focus is the way it can slice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4305">TS</a>]
01:11:48 ◼ ► and dice all of the to do's that you have so that you can only see the things that are relevant to you right now. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4308">TS</a>]
01:11:56 ◼ ► The simple version of this is that you can just see airings that you need to run on. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4316">TS</a>]
01:12:00 ◼ ► or phone calls that you need to make all at once without having to look at every single thing that's in your system. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4320">TS</a>]
01:12:06 ◼ ► But I like to use this for certain kinds of things that I'm working on so just with the press of a button I can see all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4326">TS</a>]
01:12:12 ◼ ► of the to do items I have that are related to hello internet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4332">TS</a>]
01:12:16 ◼ ► or I can see all of the to do items that are related to my You Tube videos. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4336">TS</a>]
01:12:20 ◼ ► But perhaps one of the most useful ways to divide up my own projects is that I can just see all of the tasks that I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4340">TS</a>]
01:12:27 ◼ ► do when I'm kind of braindead I don't have a lot of thinking power [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4347">TS</a>]
01:12:31 ◼ ► but I can still do kind of boring non-thinking tasks at that very moment I don't want to search through all of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4351">TS</a>]
01:12:37 ◼ ► projects for those sorts of items. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4357">TS</a>]
01:12:40 ◼ ► I just want to press a button boom I can see all the things that I can do without having to think too hard about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4360">TS</a>]
01:12:46 ◼ ► I have tried every task management program and every to do list manager under the sun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4366">TS</a>]
01:12:53 ◼ ► and Omni Focus is the one that I am going with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4373">TS</a>]
01:12:55 ◼ ► and the one that I really rely on Keeping Up with the theme of books that have changed your life getting things done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4375">TS</a>]
01:13:01 ◼ ► the book that I mentioned before that turned me basically into a grown up. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4381">TS</a>]
01:13:04 ◼ ► The focus is designed if you want it to to work as a perfect implementation of getting things done. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4384">TS</a>]
01:13:10 ◼ ► So you want to turn around your life great by getting things done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4390">TS</a>]
01:13:14 ◼ ► and buy a copy of Omni Focus your whole life will be done. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4394">TS</a>]
01:13:17 ◼ ► There unless you're Brady Brady can't change at this point but you can. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4397">TS</a>]
01:13:21 ◼ ► So right now go click on the link in our show notes. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4401">TS</a>]
01:13:25 ◼ ► Check out Omni Focus I'm going to send you to the one for the i Phone just to get started on something. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4405">TS</a>]
01:13:30 ◼ ► And give it a whirl and you can just try it because the focus comes with a money back guarantee you don't like it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4410">TS</a>]
01:13:39 ◼ ► Get in touch with the Omni group. They'll work to refund your purchase. How many apps on the App Store do that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4419">TS</a>]
01:13:44 ◼ ► Basically nobody nobody does that but the group is so confident in their products that they are willing to do that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4424">TS</a>]
01:13:52 ◼ ► Go to the show notes click right now change your life. So let's do. Two topics because I think you have my topics. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4432">TS</a>]
01:14:04 ◼ ► Yeah the top topic here says Brady is frustrating. I believe this relates to the Apple Watch. OK. Oh OK yeah yeah yeah. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4444">TS</a>]
01:14:18 ◼ ► OK So let's let's let's to graze Apple Watch corner first we're doing Brady is frustrating corner because their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4458">TS</a>]
01:14:25 ◼ ► internet this is for you by the way I am frustrated on your behalf because Brady you know we do this podcast together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4465">TS</a>]
01:14:33 ◼ ► and sometimes things come up that are interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4473">TS</a>]
01:14:35 ◼ ► and I think in those moments it is useful to take notes about the interesting thing that you might want to talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4475">TS</a>]
01:14:42 ◼ ► Because we're often recording you know ten days or a week and a half after some event has actually occurred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4482">TS</a>]
01:14:49 ◼ ► and you forget and it's really useful to have notes. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4489">TS</a>]
01:14:52 ◼ ► But Brady Brady doesn't take notes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4492">TS</a>]
01:14:55 ◼ ► and I'm trying to get him to take notes for you listener so that you can have a more pleasurable experience. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4495">TS</a>]
01:15:02 ◼ ► But every time some Brady text me about something interesting happening I text back and say Take notes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4502">TS</a>]
01:15:09 ◼ ► and what do you say BRADY You know I'm not going to take notes because you just respect the audience. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4509">TS</a>]
01:15:14 ◼ ► That's why you don't take notes. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4514">TS</a>]
01:15:15 ◼ ► What if you were a better interviewer I wouldn't make notes because you would just you would message information out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4515">TS</a>]
01:15:21 ◼ ► me you know I'm a terrible interviewer you know that I am the worst. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4521">TS</a>]
01:15:28 ◼ ► And as far as what you do when you interview people to me seems like witchcraft. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4528">TS</a>]
01:15:34 ◼ ► I have no idea what's happening or how you do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4534">TS</a>]
01:15:37 ◼ ► and this is a skill that I will never have so this is why I beg of you to take notes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4537">TS</a>]
01:15:40 ◼ ► when you're doing something interesting but you don't. That's pretty is frustrating corner. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4540">TS</a>]
01:15:45 ◼ ► So what's great is talking about is shortly after the last podcast twenty Gray had say in the Apple Watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4545">TS</a>]
01:15:52 ◼ ► and I had not booked an appointment to go and try some on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4552">TS</a>]
01:15:56 ◼ ► and you know do that whole experience they do not because I had. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4556">TS</a>]
01:16:00 ◼ ► The intent of buying one but just because I want to say it and look at it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4560">TS</a>]
01:16:03 ◼ ► and play with it so I went along with my wife [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4563">TS</a>]
01:16:06 ◼ ► and we both had you know a little half an hour in the store with the Apple Watch man who enthusiastically showed us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4566">TS</a>]
01:16:13 ◼ ► everything and let us try everything on and we did all of that and it's done. What did you think of the experience. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4573">TS</a>]
01:16:23 ◼ ► Cover You remember here what would you like tonight what would you like tonight I will answer all your questions. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4583">TS</a>]
01:16:34 ◼ ► If as long as it's a little bit more specific then we used what did you think of that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4594">TS</a>]
01:16:38 ◼ ► We've already established I'm terrible at asking good questions. OK Well I don't like I just want to hear. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4598">TS</a>]
01:16:43 ◼ ► I would what I would want you to do is go through your notes but you have no notes. Let's cut to the chase. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4603">TS</a>]
01:16:48 ◼ ► Let's let's start at the end let's cut to the chase. Back at the text message conversation might scroll back. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4608">TS</a>]
01:16:58 ◼ ► My current position is having done it. Still I don't want to get one and have no intention of getting one. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4618">TS</a>]
01:17:07 ◼ ► So that's that's the headline of black like a good newspaper man I'm doing the inverted pyramid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4627">TS</a>]
01:17:12 ◼ ► but the newspaper story starting with Brady Harum will not buy an apple watch you know watch for me says Brady Haran [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4632">TS</a>]
01:17:18 ◼ ► says he says hair and so there we go even better no swearing no I said no which for me says hair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4638">TS</a>]
01:17:25 ◼ ► and maybe you've got to start with a strong word in the newspaper and then it's all downhill from that headline. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4645">TS</a>]
01:17:30 ◼ ► Yes it should be more hair and slams watch Yeah yeah. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4650">TS</a>]
01:17:35 ◼ ► So I'm not going to get one if you had my impressions are that it was I expected it to be nicer looking than I expected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4655">TS</a>]
01:17:46 ◼ ► and it was if that makes sense. OK it's a party for a second. Just think about it you expect. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4666">TS</a>]
01:17:57 ◼ ► Wait I didn't like what it looks like in pictures but. I knew when I saw it for real. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4677">TS</a>]
01:18:01 ◼ ► I would think wow that does look better than the pictures. And indeed that is what happened. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4681">TS</a>]
01:18:07 ◼ ► So you knew that your expectations were lower than they should be. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4687">TS</a>]
01:18:12 ◼ ► I knew it would be more impressive in real life and it was then you were expecting it to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4692">TS</a>]
01:18:20 ◼ ► and you know what I mean you know what I mean you're just you're just hanging me out to dry and I am not. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4700">TS</a>]
01:18:25 ◼ ► I swear to god I am not hanging out to dry. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4705">TS</a>]
01:18:27 ◼ ► I feel like we have two levels of expectations here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4707">TS</a>]
01:18:30 ◼ ► and I'm just trying to figure out how you hold that in your brain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4710">TS</a>]
01:18:32 ◼ ► but let's move past that because we will get derailed. But I am I am not trying to confuse you. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4712">TS</a>]
01:18:36 ◼ ► I am genuinely like some kind of weird recursion here in your expectations that I can't quite on the Apple Watch was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4716">TS</a>]
01:18:44 ◼ ► much nicer to look at in real life than it is in the pictures on the website. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4724">TS</a>]
01:18:50 ◼ ► Right's right and that is what I expected the case today. So why did you try on for yourself. I tried a bunch of them. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4730">TS</a>]
01:18:58 ◼ ► Lots and lots of different sizes and different bands and the first thing I thought was Let's not talk about the watch. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4738">TS</a>]
01:19:05 ◼ ► So for a minute let's talk about the bands really it's all about the bands as they go into the shop. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4745">TS</a>]
01:19:10 ◼ ► You look at what it does and then it's like this whole band experience. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4750">TS</a>]
01:19:14 ◼ ► Yes some of the things I thought about the bands I was I was impressed by the ability to change links so easily which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4754">TS</a>]
01:19:21 ◼ ► is never been the case with watches. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4761">TS</a>]
01:19:23 ◼ ► I was very impressed with the mechanism whereby you can change the bands themselves on the watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4763">TS</a>]
01:19:27 ◼ ► but it was a lovely little piece of engineering. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4767">TS</a>]
01:19:29 ◼ ► Most of the bands I was impressed by how nice they fell on the hand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4769">TS</a>]
01:19:34 ◼ ► and a lot of them felt very pleasurable on the hand especially those kind of leathery ones they felt nice I didn't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4774">TS</a>]
01:19:41 ◼ ► how some of the bands looked the mill unease when I think's a debacle. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4781">TS</a>]
01:19:46 ◼ ► I don't know why anyone will get that back anyway but some people like it so that one seems to be a very divisive one. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4786">TS</a>]
01:19:53 ◼ ► Yeah I would say that one definitely very divisive because I've had the same conversation with a few people where to me. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4793">TS</a>]
01:20:00 ◼ ► My I that looks like a very feminine watch band but people seem to disagree. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4800">TS</a>]
01:20:05 ◼ ► And when I first heard I was surprised I was shocked that anybody could possibly disagree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4805">TS</a>]
01:20:10 ◼ ► but this is this is where fashion is just a strange thing everybody has very personal reactions to different kinds of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4810">TS</a>]
01:20:18 ◼ ► bands and I've heard people say things about the bands that I like or I think or how could you possibly think that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4818">TS</a>]
01:20:24 ◼ ► But so it's very it's very very weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4824">TS</a>]
01:20:26 ◼ ► but I would bet the mill in these one is top on the people disagree in wildly different directions about it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4826">TS</a>]
01:20:33 ◼ ► Band I didn't like how it looked off or on the hand. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4833">TS</a>]
01:20:37 ◼ ► Some of them like I thought some of the Metrolink ones and the metal ones I would like and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4837">TS</a>]
01:20:41 ◼ ► when I put them on my hand I didn't like so much if I was going to get one I would probably get a live band with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4841">TS</a>]
01:20:50 ◼ ► traditional buckle Funnily enough that's that's the one I felt that I could see that working for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4850">TS</a>]
01:20:55 ◼ ► and I didn't expect that to be the case so I thought because you know I've got my my watch it's got like a steel band [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4855">TS</a>]
01:21:00 ◼ ► like I wear a silvery still bad but I didn't like had I looked in the Apple Watch so much. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4860">TS</a>]
01:21:05 ◼ ► I still don't like how it looks as much as a normal watch that Qantas is where look I didn't use a anough to give you a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4865">TS</a>]
01:21:14 ◼ ► fair assessment but I didn't particularly enjoy the touching and the using of it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4874">TS</a>]
01:21:18 ◼ ► I didn't immediately like it didn't immediately seem hugely intuitive to me. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4878">TS</a>]
01:21:23 ◼ ► Which one did the Mrs like she got to watch as she she found it she said she doesn't want to get one either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4883">TS</a>]
01:21:28 ◼ ► but she she enjoyed she enjoyed looking at them and found them really interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4888">TS</a>]
01:21:32 ◼ ► and in some ways I thought maybe she likes them more than me. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4892">TS</a>]
01:21:35 ◼ ► And then like I said she knows nothing about them about what they're made of or the pricing structure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4895">TS</a>]
01:21:41 ◼ ► And after looking at them all she's like oh can I try one of those Goldy colored ones on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4901">TS</a>]
01:21:45 ◼ ► and he said Oh you can try them on and she's like Argh. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4905">TS</a>]
01:21:47 ◼ ► They're the one I quite like the look of that one so I think I probably get that one and then I had I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4907">TS</a>]
01:21:52 ◼ ► and she was I How much is that one and then the guy said you know all these thousands upon thousands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4912">TS</a>]
01:21:56 ◼ ► and she was like Are you joking. Yeah they started twelve. Thousand Pounds in the U.K. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4916">TS</a>]
01:22:01 ◼ ► I think so I then had to explain you know they're made of actual go. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4921">TS</a>]
01:22:05 ◼ ► You know she's a smart woman so she was like OK well of course she didn't realize they were made of actual gold she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4925">TS</a>]
01:22:10 ◼ ► just thought I would go to colored [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4930">TS</a>]
01:22:12 ◼ ► and it does raise an interesting question that if you don't like sue over because the jury [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4932">TS</a>]
01:22:16 ◼ ► and you like Goldy colour jury like like some people are in camps over a camp goat and all. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4936">TS</a>]
01:22:24 ◼ ► and there's no watch for them because you can't wear a silver watch if you go jury no go jury because it clashes so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4944">TS</a>]
01:22:31 ◼ ► Apple have kind of left those people out in the dark half [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4951">TS</a>]
01:22:34 ◼ ► and they are they're like partly surprised there was no goatee colored one that is affordable. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4954">TS</a>]
01:22:39 ◼ ► But I see why there's not. Yeah you can see why they can't have a sports watch that is also gold. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4959">TS</a>]
01:22:45 ◼ ► Yeah because you have because the gold is all about the rich people showing off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4965">TS</a>]
01:22:48 ◼ ► and how can you prove you're a rich person if other people can have cheap gold colored ones. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4968">TS</a>]
01:22:53 ◼ ► So anyway I went and looked at them and I've got to look at them since again in the shop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4973">TS</a>]
01:22:57 ◼ ► and had a little touch on a play in which your media Speedmaster is going to live live indefinitely on your wrist as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4977">TS</a>]
01:23:04 ◼ ► plan. I love it more every day. I am genuinely relieved to hear that I'm genuinely relieved to hear that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4984">TS</a>]
01:23:13 ◼ ► So is there anything else you want to or if I told you enough without notes my interview skills are lacking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4993">TS</a>]
01:23:19 ◼ ► but I feel like I feel like I get a sense of it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/4999">TS</a>]
01:23:22 ◼ ► I'm not surprised about the classic one feel like you know I could definitely see that working as a as a look for you. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5002">TS</a>]
01:23:27 ◼ ► Most of the class was a very clever they have done very well with a lot of the engineering nominees they have they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5007">TS</a>]
01:23:34 ◼ ► done well a lot most of the classics I liked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5014">TS</a>]
01:23:36 ◼ ► but I did like just the traditional looking one I will say one other thing about that I think about the watch before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5016">TS</a>]
01:23:41 ◼ ► you talk a bit about it because I know you have a few things to say and that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5021">TS</a>]
01:23:45 ◼ ► and I've seen other people discussing this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5025">TS</a>]
01:23:47 ◼ ► and I even weighed into a Twitter discussion about it with the likes of John Gray [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5027">TS</a>]
01:23:52 ◼ ► and that is having the watch face shows like a pretend mechanical watch on this crane. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5032">TS</a>]
01:24:00 ◼ ► A graph setting so you look at your screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5040">TS</a>]
01:24:02 ◼ ► and it's like a pretend watch rendered on the rendered on the watch I don't see the point of that I think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5042">TS</a>]
01:24:10 ◼ ► and I think it's really pointless and a little bit silly. Like I always say if you're going to be a bear be a grizzly. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5050">TS</a>]
01:24:17 ◼ ► If you're going to have this electronic high tech watch don't have a rendering. Pretend old fashioned watch faces on. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5057">TS</a>]
01:24:24 ◼ ► That seems really silly to me. That's the equivalent of having a fireplace or an aquarium on your T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5064">TS</a>]
01:24:31 ◼ ► If you want an aquarium get an aquarium if you want to have a fireplace get a fireplace if you want to have light hands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5071">TS</a>]
01:24:38 ◼ ► and second hands in a round face [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5078">TS</a>]
01:24:39 ◼ ► and the old fashioned watch can now fashion watch if you want to move with the times and get something high tech [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5079">TS</a>]
01:24:45 ◼ ► and take the next step and maybe it's the way of the future. Do that but take advantage of the technology. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5085">TS</a>]
01:24:52 ◼ ► Take advantage of the things a screen can do like you don't have electronic versions of a rotary dial on your phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5092">TS</a>]
01:25:00 ◼ ► because that's that's an old fashioned technology [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5100">TS</a>]
01:25:03 ◼ ► and I think people having this like old fashion if they want that kind of you know Speedmaster chronograph you look on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5103">TS</a>]
01:25:09 ◼ ► their wrist and it's just being rented on a screen. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5109">TS</a>]
01:25:12 ◼ ► I feel like that's a bit silly and I may be mistaken [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5112">TS</a>]
01:25:17 ◼ ► but didn't you record a Yule log on one of your channels for people to play on their computers at Christmas. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5117">TS</a>]
01:25:24 ◼ ► Yeah and I did that because I was I was invited to do it and I was OK but but oh but oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5124">TS</a>]
01:25:30 ◼ ► but oh say that oh say I did that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5130">TS</a>]
01:25:32 ◼ ► but I did that with like that the twist of being able to like throw dangerous chemicals onto it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5132">TS</a>]
01:25:38 ◼ ► and things like that I still a Christian does you a lot of people would be playing on their computers a Christmas I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5138">TS</a>]
01:25:43 ◼ ► also feel that I was a bit ironic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5143">TS</a>]
01:25:45 ◼ ► but I don't think people having the chronographs on their watch doing it in a kind of ironic funny way I mean those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5145">TS</a>]
01:25:52 ◼ ► videos will look almost a spoof of Eulo videos in the same way that like my calculator and books. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5152">TS</a>]
01:26:00 ◼ ► The videos are a spoof of unboxing videos I feel like my you look pretty it was like a parody of the fact people do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5160">TS</a>]
01:26:07 ◼ ► that whereas I don't think people who are wearing these pretend chronographs on their I watch like parodying anything I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5167">TS</a>]
01:26:14 ◼ ► think they're doing it because it's the look they want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5174">TS</a>]
01:26:16 ◼ ► and I'm just not on board with it I think if you're going to have an apple watch you know utilized to screen the people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5176">TS</a>]
01:26:22 ◼ ► who have these sort of panel versions where they show the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5182">TS</a>]
01:26:25 ◼ ► and then next appointment stuff like OK it's not for me but I'm on board with that lies in the technology. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5185">TS</a>]
01:26:31 ◼ ► But telling the time on this part with pretend hands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5191">TS</a>]
01:26:34 ◼ ► and all that sort of thing which you know you have hands on a clock because of the technology necessitates the Weight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5194">TS</a>]
01:26:41 ◼ ► Watchers and the mechanism or watches work necessitates that it's no longer necessary on a on of it on a computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5201">TS</a>]
01:26:49 ◼ ► and it just feels a bit silly to me it feels like it feels like having a you know you don't have more than you probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5209">TS</a>]
01:26:57 ◼ ► do actually but I wouldn't have a modern grandfather clock which instead of a grandfather. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5217">TS</a>]
01:27:01 ◼ ► It has a screen on there that has like a pretend pendulums swinging and pretend Yeah yeah that feels stupid to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5221">TS</a>]
01:27:09 ◼ ► but to me and it feels a bit the same way with the watch I feel like you know I don't have an old fashion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5229">TS</a>]
01:27:15 ◼ ► and I know there's a bit more nuance to the discussion and I've read a little bit about what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5235">TS</a>]
01:27:19 ◼ ► and I've heard what John Gruber said about on his podcast and what he's written about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5239">TS</a>]
01:27:22 ◼ ► and I understand the argument I just wanted to fill in on his side. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5242">TS</a>]
01:27:27 ◼ ► I missed I missed your Twitter interaction so unlucky I'm not sure what his his Are you thinking. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5247">TS</a>]
01:27:33 ◼ ► So so for me I am very aware of time as existing in this circle that goes round and round. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5253">TS</a>]
01:27:41 ◼ ► That is part of his argument that's just how that's how he's used to reading time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5261">TS</a>]
01:27:45 ◼ ► and he doesn't want to unlearn that which I don't agree with I think you can and then a very quickly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5265">TS</a>]
01:27:49 ◼ ► and just so you're in the picture the other thing he says is he thinks the watch isn't too sort of skeuomorphic a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5269">TS</a>]
01:27:55 ◼ ► heavyset like he says you know it's not like they're rendering shadows and things like that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5275">TS</a>]
01:28:00 ◼ ► So he thinks it doesn't go too far down that path. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5280">TS</a>]
01:28:03 ◼ ► I mean I don't know the skew morphism argue that argument has never been interesting to me like there's a look at it as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5283">TS</a>]
01:28:09 ◼ ► another I don't really that's that's not I only care about skew morphism once you talk about skew morphism enforcing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5289">TS</a>]
01:28:16 ◼ ► limitations as famously the apple podcast did when it was pretending to be a reel to reel tape player [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5296">TS</a>]
01:28:22 ◼ ► and allowed you to do basically nothing because they wanted to preserve the metaphor that looks like a reel to reel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5302">TS</a>]
01:28:28 ◼ ► tape players and what are you doing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5308">TS</a>]
01:28:31 ◼ ► or the thing that I find most frustrating is on the kind of skew morphism on digital calendars where you can only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5311">TS</a>]
01:28:38 ◼ ► scroll a month at a time and so you have to flip back and forth between two virtual pages. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5318">TS</a>]
01:28:43 ◼ ► When you're looking at an event that at the end of April [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5323">TS</a>]
01:28:46 ◼ ► and the beginning of the next month they know you can make is a continuous scroll. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5326">TS</a>]
01:28:50 ◼ ► And so that's why I like that's the kind of skew morphism that I find really frustrating there's no reason for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5330">TS</a>]
01:28:54 ◼ ► month to exist as a page on a computer but the way you know the way things look with shadows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5334">TS</a>]
01:28:59 ◼ ► and stuff I've never I've never really cared about that but. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5339">TS</a>]
01:29:01 ◼ ► OK I am aware that for me like a digital readout I have always found somehow harder to read. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5341">TS</a>]
01:29:08 ◼ ► There's something about it being overly precise that bothers me and some people have noticed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5348">TS</a>]
01:29:14 ◼ ► when I take screenshots on occasion of my computer I don't have a normal clock in the upper right hand corner. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5354">TS</a>]
01:29:21 ◼ ► I have something that's called a fuzzy clock where normally it would display the digits. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5361">TS</a>]
01:29:27 ◼ ► Right now it actually just has a few words and it says five past eight. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5367">TS</a>]
01:29:33 ◼ ► So the clock on my computer always writes out a sentence like that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5373">TS</a>]
01:29:37 ◼ ► It'll say quarter to six and then it will say ten to six they'll say six O. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5377">TS</a>]
01:29:42 ◼ ► Clock say noon and I find that a million times easier to look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5382">TS</a>]
01:29:50 ◼ ► and you have a sense of the time then something that says six thirty seven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5390">TS</a>]
01:29:55 ◼ ► and there's something about the I can't deal with the precision of the minute it's to pursue. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5395">TS</a>]
01:30:00 ◼ ► As I don't need to know it and it's almost like it somehow that extra precision slows me down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5400">TS</a>]
01:30:05 ◼ ► and so that's why I really do like circular clock faces as well because you can look at it like I have a sense of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5405">TS</a>]
01:30:11 ◼ ► time without needing to know the precision of the time. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5411">TS</a>]
01:30:15 ◼ ► Is that because knowing a precise time would kind of add to your cognitive load [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5415">TS</a>]
01:30:20 ◼ ► or it would just it would cause you stress and you want to avoid that stress. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5420">TS</a>]
01:30:24 ◼ ► I don't I don't I would say it causes stress I'm just aware that there's something about looking at digital number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5424">TS</a>]
01:30:30 ◼ ► clock that is fractionally slower every time I do it which makes no sense because it's should be more immediately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5430">TS</a>]
01:30:39 ◼ ► and it's probably just because I grew up with circular watches looking at circular clocks in school [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5439">TS</a>]
01:30:44 ◼ ► and watching them go round and round you know praying for the end of the day and knowing the shape of the clock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5444">TS</a>]
01:30:50 ◼ ► when you could finally be free and go home and not have to do any of this nonsense anymore. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5450">TS</a>]
01:30:54 ◼ ► So if you'd grown up with clocks which showed like the face of a bear when it was three o'clock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5454">TS</a>]
01:30:58 ◼ ► and then the face of a giraffe and it was four o'clock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5458">TS</a>]
01:31:01 ◼ ► and yeah I'm sure I'd be thinking oh it's almost bear oclock now thank God you know now I would keep that up. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5461">TS</a>]
01:31:07 ◼ ► So it's almost like a pictorial way of telling time rather than. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5467">TS</a>]
01:31:10 ◼ ► Yeah I said yeah OK I mean that's kind of that's kind of the Graybar argument too I think to some it's just it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5470">TS</a>]
01:31:18 ◼ ► what he's used to. It's just his way of telling time. But I do. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5478">TS</a>]
01:31:22 ◼ ► I don't I don't think it's utilizing the technology [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5482">TS</a>]
01:31:25 ◼ ► and I think that's a behavior that could be pretty easily on land I grew up using a rotary phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5485">TS</a>]
01:31:30 ◼ ► and dialing phone numbers by putting my finger in the three and then moving my finger down to the nine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5490">TS</a>]
01:31:34 ◼ ► and I learned that pretty quickly when I had buttons. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5494">TS</a>]
01:31:38 ◼ ► So if it doesn't quite It doesn't quite wash for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5498">TS</a>]
01:31:41 ◼ ► and I think making the watch try to be like these old fashioned watches is just I think it's not the way to go you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5501">TS</a>]
01:31:50 ◼ ► so the reason this is particularly funny is because right on my watch right now I actually happen to be using the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5510">TS</a>]
01:31:56 ◼ ► chronograph face of an apple. So you are wearing it up. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5516">TS</a>]
01:32:00 ◼ ► What you haven't told anyone that I am wearing an apple watch right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5520">TS</a>]
01:32:02 ◼ ► and I don't I don't actually normally use the chronograph I don't like the way it looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5522">TS</a>]
01:32:07 ◼ ► but I thought Ooh let me switch over to this and let me just use it for timing the podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5527">TS</a>]
01:32:12 ◼ ► and tell me afterwards tell me your thoughts on it is we are in in one hour thirty two minutes seventeen seconds right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5532">TS</a>]
01:32:18 ◼ ► now so I have to give the other side to give first impressions because my watch arrived just a little bit over twenty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5538">TS</a>]
01:32:26 ◼ ► four hours ago so I have had kind of a day and a half with it. And yes great great did not tell me everyone. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5546">TS</a>]
01:32:34 ◼ ► OK OK OK Listen yesterday we were just trying to coordinate the time to to get this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5554">TS</a>]
01:32:40 ◼ ► and who was not replying to my text messages you I literally had no time except minutes before this podcast in which to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5560">TS</a>]
01:32:47 ◼ ► possibly tell you that I had got an apple I could have said that you want to know if what you do know is I was getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5567">TS</a>]
01:32:52 ◼ ► them while you were busy offline I sent text messages to two different addresses I sent an e-mail I didn't get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5572">TS</a>]
01:32:57 ◼ ► response until this morning I felt deeply hurt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5577">TS</a>]
01:33:00 ◼ ► but I didn't know where you were I was going to randomly start some conversation Hey let's talk about my new Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5580">TS</a>]
01:33:04 ◼ ► Watch maybe you're busy dealing with some problem I have no idea if I got an apple watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5584">TS</a>]
01:33:08 ◼ ► or text you straight away I'd say because you're like my apple watch my so I'd be like Great guess what I'm wearing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5588">TS</a>]
01:33:12 ◼ ► guess what I've got to be so excited. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5592">TS</a>]
01:33:14 ◼ ► We learn he literally had no time in which to possibly discuss this until this podcast not trade anyway then you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5594">TS</a>]
01:33:21 ◼ ► it is a one hundred percent true I will not let you deceive our listeners in this manner. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5601">TS</a>]
01:33:26 ◼ ► There was no time in which we could have discussed this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5606">TS</a>]
01:33:29 ◼ ► I'm just trying to scare us I'm just saying tell me you've got it. I told you right before we started to record. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5609">TS</a>]
01:33:34 ◼ ► No you didn't I was a sore on your wrist. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5614">TS</a>]
01:33:36 ◼ ► No no you said you don't have a watch and then I said yes I do and showed it to you I can I have I have the recording. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5616">TS</a>]
01:33:45 ◼ ► Trust me they don't have the recording so the band I saw the band and thought it looked different. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5625">TS</a>]
01:33:50 ◼ ► If I have the recording I'm going to put it in right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5630">TS</a>]
01:33:52 ◼ ► but I told you first I swear this is the part I'm either prove No you made the video to do it justice because I saw the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5632">TS</a>]
01:33:58 ◼ ► band on your hands. I thought it didn't look like your watching on what's she wearing. Now that I don't think of that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5638">TS</a>]
01:34:04 ◼ ► But anyway this is all this is all a sideshow of us just all of us just bickering like old ladies. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5644">TS</a>]
01:34:10 ◼ ► Let's go clothes shopping I would love to not go clothes shopping with you Brady that would never happen. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5650">TS</a>]
01:34:16 ◼ ► Tell me about your first twenty four hours with the watch because you're not going to Cape and all that sort of stuff. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5656">TS</a>]
01:34:21 ◼ ► When I said I was relieved before that you were like in your Omega Speedmaster more and more. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5661">TS</a>]
01:34:25 ◼ ► My first twenty four hours with the watch definitely convinced me that that you should never have one of these. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5665">TS</a>]
01:34:31 ◼ ► This would be this would be no good for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5671">TS</a>]
01:34:34 ◼ ► and it is so easy to make it be just this new notification addiction machine so I thought Oh God I hope Brady never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5674">TS</a>]
01:34:42 ◼ ► gets one because he will be even more consumed by beeps and buzzers and distractions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5682">TS</a>]
01:34:48 ◼ ► and shiny things than he already is. So I'm very very happy you're with your media Speedmaster. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5688">TS</a>]
01:34:56 ◼ ► I have unbelievably few notifications on my phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5696">TS</a>]
01:35:00 ◼ ► but I don't get notifications for him I was the only time my phone ever make noise is if I get a text message [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5700">TS</a>]
01:35:08 ◼ ► and I only get text messages really from. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5708">TS</a>]
01:35:10 ◼ ► You and my wife and maybe a couple of other nights say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5710">TS</a>]
01:35:13 ◼ ► but yeah I do understand I'm just talking about in general your distracted nature yet my problem is I take out of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5713">TS</a>]
01:35:19 ◼ ► pocket all the time. That is all right and now you have things. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5719">TS</a>]
01:35:21 ◼ ► If you'd have something on your wrist to constantly be checking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5721">TS</a>]
01:35:24 ◼ ► and looking here to anybody who either has just gotten an apple watch or his or will be getting one very soon. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5724">TS</a>]
01:35:31 ◼ ► I think the way to go into this is to almost pretend that additional apps don't exist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5731">TS</a>]
01:35:39 ◼ ► and really think of it as I have bought a watch that has changeable watch faces. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5739">TS</a>]
01:35:45 ◼ ► I'm going to select one that I like and this watch happens to be able to do a few additional very useful things. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5745">TS</a>]
01:35:54 ◼ ► But a number of people that I have spoken with and that I've heard talking about. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5754">TS</a>]
01:36:00 ◼ ► Watch are trying to treat it as though it's a tiny iphone and it is so clearly not a tiny iphone but in the stores [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5760">TS</a>]
01:36:12 ◼ ► and with a bunch of other people everybody is all about the apps they're thinking oh what are the apps that can be on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5772">TS</a>]
01:36:17 ◼ ► this phone and I think that is the totally wrong way to think about this device [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5777">TS</a>]
01:36:22 ◼ ► and I was trying I was trying today to think of a way to describe it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5782">TS</a>]
01:36:25 ◼ ► and the best I can come up with is that the Apple Watch my first impression anyway is this might be one of the most low [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5785">TS</a>]
01:36:34 ◼ ► key technology purchases I have ever made in my life. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5794">TS</a>]
01:36:40 ◼ ► It's very helpful but it's not attention getting in the way that an i Phone is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5800">TS</a>]
01:36:46 ◼ ► and it's not trying to do a whole bunch of stuff that a way an i Phone Is it really feels like hey I'm a watch that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5806">TS</a>]
01:36:54 ◼ ► additionally useful in some clever ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5814">TS</a>]
01:36:57 ◼ ► but I'm not trying to take over your whole life so low key is the best way that I can think of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5817">TS</a>]
01:37:02 ◼ ► and I have really enjoyed it so far. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5822">TS</a>]
01:37:04 ◼ ► I don't think about all the apps people just think about it as a watch that happens to do some additional things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5824">TS</a>]
01:37:10 ◼ ► pretend like those apps aren't even there. I think you have a much better experience with a kind of straight away. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5830">TS</a>]
01:37:16 ◼ ► Well let me ask you this then because your previous watch which was. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5836">TS</a>]
01:37:22 ◼ ► If it wasn't for who you are for like your previous watches very very pretty you know very beautiful very a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5842">TS</a>]
01:37:28 ◼ ► elegant good looking object and to me it was also a piece of jewelry. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5848">TS</a>]
01:37:33 ◼ ► It was it was a it was a statement you were making about your taste and things like that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5853">TS</a>]
01:37:37 ◼ ► Does the Apple Watch cut the mustard. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5857">TS</a>]
01:37:40 ◼ ► Is the Apple Watch at the same level as that watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5860">TS</a>]
01:37:43 ◼ ► or have you compromised do you think what you're wearing on your wrist now is less beautiful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5863">TS</a>]
01:37:49 ◼ ► or less of a statement in that terms about the style of who you are. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5869">TS</a>]
01:37:54 ◼ ► OK Well this is a terribly unfair question at the moment because I ordered to watch. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5874">TS</a>]
01:38:00 ◼ ► He's hoping that one of them would arrive before the one we want. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5880">TS</a>]
01:38:04 ◼ ► So I actually have one that is basically my trial watch see if it's something that I'm going to keep. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5884">TS</a>]
01:38:10 ◼ ► So right now on my wrist I am wearing the black aluminum sports watch which I think is a pretty good looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5890">TS</a>]
01:38:20 ◼ ► but it is it is nowhere near the piece of jewelry of the watch that I am actually really have my heart set on is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5900">TS</a>]
01:38:29 ◼ ► black link one that is not arriving until next year or so. According to delivery estimates. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5909">TS</a>]
01:38:37 ◼ ► So that is that is the one that I would actually want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5917">TS</a>]
01:38:40 ◼ ► and that's the one that I think would look the best although I still haven't been able to try that on because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5920">TS</a>]
01:38:46 ◼ ► supplies are so low they don't even have them in the stores. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5926">TS</a>]
01:38:48 ◼ ► I keep checking in every once in a while with Oxford Street store here about how do you guys have the black link [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5928">TS</a>]
01:38:54 ◼ ► and they go oh no we don't have it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5934">TS</a>]
01:38:57 ◼ ► and so that's why I really think that one might not be shipping for forever which is why I put in the order for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5937">TS</a>]
01:39:02 ◼ ► black sports one to at least be able to try it right away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5942">TS</a>]
01:39:05 ◼ ► and to get some sense of Is this a thing worth waiting for is a thing that I want to really have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5945">TS</a>]
01:39:10 ◼ ► or you know I'll just you know just return this and then not even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5950">TS</a>]
01:39:14 ◼ ► and then cancel my order for the other one exists it's not worth it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5954">TS</a>]
01:39:16 ◼ ► But I like it straight away thing on my wrist is not a piece of jewelry. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5956">TS</a>]
01:39:21 ◼ ► It is it is a very functional object and that's fine. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5961">TS</a>]
01:39:26 ◼ ► and if you're if you're using so few of the apps you are talking just a little notifications [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5966">TS</a>]
01:39:30 ◼ ► and I guess you know this is exactly how I feel things are useful is that if it can do a couple things well I'm sold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5970">TS</a>]
01:39:40 ◼ ► and the thing that the Apple Watch does really well are these little tap notifications where it feels like it's tapping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5980">TS</a>]
01:39:47 ◼ ► your wrist because when I got the watch first thing I did put it in mute. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5987">TS</a>]
01:39:51 ◼ ► So it doesn't make any noises so it's not beeping or anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5991">TS</a>]
01:39:55 ◼ ► and I turned off basically every single notification except for a very few. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/5995">TS</a>]
01:40:00 ◼ ► And I really like the way a couple things are coming through on the watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6000">TS</a>]
01:40:05 ◼ ► and one of which is really great is timers so I use timers a lot when I work I have forty minute timers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6005">TS</a>]
01:40:15 ◼ ► and twenty minute timers that I'm constantly setting for different sorts of tasks and I want to know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6015">TS</a>]
01:40:19 ◼ ► when those have run down and to have the want to do this little tap tap tap thing when the timer has run down. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6019">TS</a>]
01:40:27 ◼ ► It's hard to describe how helpful that is when I'm working because it's something that I'm aware of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6027">TS</a>]
01:40:32 ◼ ► but I can ignore in a way that I could never ignore a vibrating phone or an audio alarm for the timer being over. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6032">TS</a>]
01:40:41 ◼ ► And boy is that great if I go Hey tap tap tap I know that the timer has gone off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6041">TS</a>]
01:40:46 ◼ ► but you've managed to not distract me or startled me with the sound [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6046">TS</a>]
01:40:50 ◼ ► or do you thing that I have to deal with like the i Phone six plus and it's huge vibration motor on the desk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6050">TS</a>]
01:40:56 ◼ ► or anything so I absolutely love this as a little feature and even if it was just a watch. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6056">TS</a>]
01:41:03 ◼ ► But additionally did these silent timers I'd be I'd be totally sold. But there are. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6063">TS</a>]
01:41:07 ◼ ► I think I've been playing around with the health features which are really nice I did my exercise at the gym today with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6067">TS</a>]
01:41:14 ◼ ► and all that stuff I mean this this kind of thing you need to use over over a longer period of time. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6074">TS</a>]
01:41:19 ◼ ► I would say the silent notifications are the greatest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6079">TS</a>]
01:41:22 ◼ ► and I also did play around with the walking directions where it taps you on the wrist for when you want to turn left [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6082">TS</a>]
01:41:28 ◼ ► when you want to turn right which if you go back to one of our earlier podcast was one of the things I guessed I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6088">TS</a>]
01:41:33 ◼ ► really like and find useful and I'm exactly correct about that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6093">TS</a>]
01:41:37 ◼ ► Being able to set a destination a walking destination [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6097">TS</a>]
01:41:41 ◼ ► and have it just tap my wrist for the turns is beautiful it's absolutely beautiful. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6101">TS</a>]
01:41:49 ◼ ► and kind of not have to think about it I don't have Siri interrupting me in my ear with audio directions if I'm trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6109">TS</a>]
01:41:55 ◼ ► to listen to a podcast at the same time which is hugely frustrating in a spot. Part because Siri is way too chatty. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6115">TS</a>]
01:42:03 ◼ ► So I'm I'm really liking that as well. And yeah it's it's very nice. I am pretty I'm pretty happy with it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6123">TS</a>]
01:42:11 ◼ ► Let me see I have a couple other notes here. OK. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6131">TS</a>]
01:42:16 ◼ ► Someone makes nice at least I do make and doing so more convinced terrible for notification junkies not for Brady. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6136">TS</a>]
01:42:24 ◼ ► Oh my mother concerned that the other concern that I had was I was worried about glancing at the time that it might not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6144">TS</a>]
01:42:29 ◼ ► work out very well because there is this little bit of a delay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6149">TS</a>]
01:42:32 ◼ ► when you turn it up so far I haven't even haven't even noticed some things about that thing that comes into my head [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6152">TS</a>]
01:42:38 ◼ ► and I this is sort of a something I have done about before but I still feel a bit sad about it because to me watches [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6158">TS</a>]
01:42:44 ◼ ► and their various forms but especially you know mechanical watches. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6164">TS</a>]
01:42:49 ◼ ► Just like a little connection with the past [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6169">TS</a>]
01:42:50 ◼ ► and part of human heritage I didn't feel like it was a big sacrifice to have a watch on your hands a little nod to that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6170">TS</a>]
01:42:58 ◼ ► and I feel like I feel like we've lost that to functionality it's a bit like this is an extreme example [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6178">TS</a>]
01:43:04 ◼ ► when you watch it you get angry at me for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6184">TS</a>]
01:43:05 ◼ ► but it's a bit like saying well let's knock down the Coliseum because well the Coliseum is old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6185">TS</a>]
01:43:12 ◼ ► and not useful for anything and yet we could put a shopping center there or a cinema or on housing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6192">TS</a>]
01:43:17 ◼ ► or things that people can actually use every minute of their life as opposed to just a relic from the past that we look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6197">TS</a>]
01:43:24 ◼ ► at and I feel like we're taking the little coliseums of a hand a little that little connection with the past [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6204">TS</a>]
01:43:30 ◼ ► and trading it in for trading in for taps and notifications and timers and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6210">TS</a>]
01:43:36 ◼ ► and we didn't need to do that we already have lots of other things that do it so I feel a bit sad I feel like we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6216">TS</a>]
01:43:41 ◼ ► losing a little piece of connection with the past. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6221">TS</a>]
01:43:45 ◼ ► Well you know you don't have to and you're going to keep wearing your make a Speedmaster of course. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6225">TS</a>]
01:43:49 ◼ ► Let me let me give you a I just I was just thinking of trying to explain why this is different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6229">TS</a>]
01:43:54 ◼ ► and so here's a really good example that just happened. So my wife and I before the podcast. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6234">TS</a>]
01:44:00 ◼ ► We're just having dinner and I know that you are on a timetable for when we can record this today. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6240">TS</a>]
01:44:05 ◼ ► So I had set an alarm on my watch that told me at this point you need to leave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6245">TS</a>]
01:44:12 ◼ ► and go set up the podcast equipment in order to make it on time for Brady. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6252">TS</a>]
01:44:16 ◼ ► And so while my wife and I were having dinner she was just telling me a story about what was going on in her day. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6256">TS</a>]
01:44:22 ◼ ► And while she's telling me the story the alarm goes off on my watch. Now I have it set to silent. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6262">TS</a>]
01:44:31 ◼ ► Yeah and the little moment is she can't hear my alarm. She has no idea that the alarm just went off. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6271">TS</a>]
01:44:38 ◼ ► So my alarm doesn't interrupt her story. It doesn't cut her off. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6278">TS</a>]
01:44:43 ◼ ► I'm aware of what I need to be aware of and I could let her finish her story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6283">TS</a>]
01:44:48 ◼ ► and then part the conversation at a moment that felt like it was a better moment to say OK you know now I've got to go. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6288">TS</a>]
01:44:57 ◼ ► And I didn't have to be like a little interruption [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6297">TS</a>]
01:45:01 ◼ ► and I think that is really valuable to me to be able to be notified of something without disturbing the people around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6301">TS</a>]
01:45:10 ◼ ► you if you set it up in the right way. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6310">TS</a>]
01:45:12 ◼ ► Now lots of people will believe sounds on the phone in your pocket would have done that the phone the phone wouldn't do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6312">TS</a>]
01:45:17 ◼ ► that because also a day that you know perfectly well you're sitting with someone everyone can hear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6317">TS</a>]
01:45:21 ◼ ► when your phone is vibrating anyway. Yeah you know that Brady era there would not necessarily be. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6321">TS</a>]
01:45:29 ◼ ► but you're going to granted to me that lots of times you're sitting there is not like a secret that your phone is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6329">TS</a>]
01:45:35 ◼ ► I think it should be OK but maybe I haven't quite designed it well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6335">TS</a>]
01:45:39 ◼ ► and I think we're not talking about it if it should be or isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6339">TS</a>]
01:45:41 ◼ ► but it isn't under a lot of so I know I'm with people I can hear when their phone vibrates. It's no surprise. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6341">TS</a>]
01:45:48 ◼ ► So that little kind of interaction was something that I thought was was was very nice to be able to do in a different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6348">TS</a>]
01:45:56 ◼ ► kind of way. I know the thing that I need to know but I haven't. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6356">TS</a>]
01:46:00 ◼ ► Interrupted the person who I am talking with and he says it was just a very small moment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6360">TS</a>]
01:46:04 ◼ ► but that to me is like oh this is a great additional little feature. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6364">TS</a>]
01:46:09 ◼ ► I mean there's a couple other things that have been very nice just using it in the past day just in the gym being able [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6369">TS</a>]
01:46:15 ◼ ► to tap a couple things on my wrist instead of having to hold my phone in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6375">TS</a>]
01:46:20 ◼ ► and out of my pocket all the time like I just made exercising at the gym a little bit easier. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6380">TS</a>]
01:46:25 ◼ ► And these little things for me really add up like who can we make this interaction a little bit smoother. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6385">TS</a>]
01:46:31 ◼ ► Can we do this just a little bit easier. I think that's really valuable. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6391">TS</a>]
01:46:35 ◼ ► You're going to think I'm crazy for saying this but when you told me that story about talking to your wife [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6395">TS</a>]
01:46:40 ◼ ► and getting that secret tab but letting her continue to talk. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6400">TS</a>]
01:46:44 ◼ ► I find that really sneaky and really non-transparent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6404">TS</a>]
01:46:47 ◼ ► and I actually don't like the idea that I would be sitting at you with the pub [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6407">TS</a>]
01:46:51 ◼ ► and you're getting all these secret messages into your wrist and not telling me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6411">TS</a>]
01:46:55 ◼ ► and like managing me I would almost rather the transparency of your phone going paying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6415">TS</a>]
01:47:01 ◼ ► and you're going oh that's my Lama guy meeting later on but let's keep talking. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6421">TS</a>]
01:47:04 ◼ ► I always find a little bit deceptive that everyone's going around getting these secret little messages into their wrist. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6424">TS</a>]
01:47:11 ◼ ► And and I don't know and they're like they're like yeah they're mad managing me. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6431">TS</a>]
01:47:15 ◼ ► I love how you already positing a world where everybody is already managing you with their secret watches. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6435">TS</a>]
01:47:22 ◼ ► First of all I can guarantee you that not very many people will set the watch the way I do to have it completely silent. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6442">TS</a>]
01:47:28 ◼ ► I bet almost everybody will leave all the little audio notifications on which I think is entirely the wrong way to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6448">TS</a>]
01:47:34 ◼ ► And as we've discussed I don't have very many notifications [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6454">TS</a>]
01:47:39 ◼ ► and I am aware that with the watch I'm already turning down some of the limited notifications that I have on the phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6459">TS</a>]
01:47:45 ◼ ► because the one thing that I don't like is at least in the current version of the software there isn't quite enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6465">TS</a>]
01:47:51 ◼ ► control over how you want notifications to be distributed between the phone and the watch. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6471">TS</a>]
01:47:58 ◼ ► It's a bit like oh the phone either. Next what the watch does or the phone doesn't. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6478">TS</a>]
01:48:03 ◼ ► I'm sure they'll do more of that in the future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6483">TS</a>]
01:48:05 ◼ ► but the interesting the interesting trick if anyone is playing around with the watch that I have found so far. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6485">TS</a>]
01:48:10 ◼ ► If you're a person like me who has very few notifications is to not have the watch mirror the phone in do not disturb [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6490">TS</a>]
01:48:19 ◼ ► What this means is that notifications that would normally be blocked by your phone while your phone is in do not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6499">TS</a>]
01:48:25 ◼ ► disturb mode can still go to your watch and there are a couple of situations where this is this is proving useful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6505">TS</a>]
01:48:31 ◼ ► and interesting things that you can do about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6511">TS</a>]
01:48:33 ◼ ► but they do need to add more more settings for precisely how notifications are controlled. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6513">TS</a>]
01:48:37 ◼ ► But nobody's managing you yet Brady you haven't even seen anybody with a watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6517">TS</a>]
01:48:41 ◼ ► and I'm sure everybody else's watches will be loud. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6521">TS</a>]
01:48:43 ◼ ► I'll be well I will be curious to ask your wife or hear what your wife's reaction is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6523">TS</a>]
01:48:48 ◼ ► when she hears that anecdote you just wrote that she was telling a story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6528">TS</a>]
01:48:52 ◼ ► and then you got the secret tap she didn't know about and you like allowed her to finish a story. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6532">TS</a>]
01:48:58 ◼ ► But the whole time you knew you knew you now had something to say but you were just keeping it to yourself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6538">TS</a>]
01:49:04 ◼ ► and waiting for her to finish a story. I'll be curious to hear what she says how she feels about that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6544">TS</a>]
01:49:09 ◼ ► Probably probably pretty Colbert because she's pretty cool person. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6549">TS</a>]
01:49:12 ◼ ► But like I wouldn't like I wouldn't like I would prefer that I just knew that he just got a notification [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6552">TS</a>]
01:49:17 ◼ ► and it was now in your mind I wanted out. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6557">TS</a>]
01:49:20 ◼ ► I'd want to know what's affecting you and not have secret things coming in that are affecting it in ways I don't know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6560">TS</a>]
01:49:26 ◼ ► I can say very briefly on the flip side because my wife got her watch on the day of launch so she's had a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6566">TS</a>]
01:49:31 ◼ ► longer than I have and she had it when I didn't have one. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6571">TS</a>]
01:49:34 ◼ ► One thing that I noticed right away is she has messages go to her watch was the first night we were just sitting around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6574">TS</a>]
01:49:42 ◼ ► and she got a couple of text messages [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6582">TS</a>]
01:49:45 ◼ ► and I have to say I really like the fact that she could do exactly what she did which was a couple of times. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6585">TS</a>]
01:49:52 ◼ ► She clearly got the notification on her wrist that a message come through. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6592">TS</a>]
01:49:56 ◼ ► She flipped up her watch she looked at the message and also saw that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6596">TS</a>]
01:50:00 ◼ ► Didn't need to be replied to and then just put her wrist down and we continued talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6600">TS</a>]
01:50:04 ◼ ► and doing whatever we were doing that it sounds dumb but that's a million times less destructive than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6604">TS</a>]
01:50:11 ◼ ► when she would have to pick up her phone and kind of hold her phone in between us and take a look at it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6611">TS</a>]
01:50:17 ◼ ► and then put the phone down and the phone is now on the table in between the two of us. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6617">TS</a>]
01:50:23 ◼ ► If it doesn't sound like it's a big difference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6623">TS</a>]
01:50:25 ◼ ► but I'm telling you it's a huge difference in someone being able to just quickly look at a thing versus bringing out an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6625">TS</a>]
01:50:34 ◼ ► object to physically demonstrate that they are checking the thing in front of you or potentially unlocking their phone. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6634">TS</a>]
01:50:42 ◼ ► It was it's different in I think a very positive way. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6642">TS</a>]
01:50:46 ◼ ► It makes things smoother in a way that I found oh I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6646">TS</a>]
01:50:49 ◼ ► or I should put this way that I was kind of less annoyed at moments [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6649">TS</a>]
01:50:55 ◼ ► when she would check a message that I might otherwise be in certain circumstances. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6655">TS</a>]
01:50:59 ◼ ► So I was on the opposite end of that and I give it I give it a thumbs up. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6659">TS</a>]
01:51:04 ◼ ► Well I'm happy that I'm actually a bit disappointed that you're happy I was secretly hoping that you'd get it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6664">TS</a>]
01:51:10 ◼ ► and tell me that it's not that great and you'd return. But I knew that wasn't what was going to happen. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6670">TS</a>]
01:51:16 ◼ ► They did love it and get it. I should be happy for you. I'm just being grouchy old man. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6676">TS</a>]
01:51:22 ◼ ► That's OK you can be you can be a grouchy old man. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6682">TS</a>]
01:51:25 ◼ ► It's not even that I'm happy with it it just feels that it's almost like it is integrated so fast into normalcy it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6685">TS</a>]
01:51:32 ◼ ► surprising and that's why I use the word Low key I can't I really can't think of any kind of analogy for it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6692">TS</a>]
01:51:40 ◼ ► but it's almost like I don't know. Like buying like buying a really good coffee cup. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6700">TS</a>]
01:51:50 ◼ ► Is this coffee cup a lot better than the previous one. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6710">TS</a>]
01:51:53 ◼ ► Well no it's a little better but you immediately find yourself using it all the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6713">TS</a>]
01:51:58 ◼ ► and you appreciate the way that it is. A slightly better but it's also super. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6718">TS</a>]
01:52:02 ◼ ► You're used to using a coffee cup all the time so it just like slides right in there's no getting used to it at all. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6722">TS</a>]
01:52:08 ◼ ► Like a really comfy pair of shoes. Yeah yeah. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6728">TS</a>]
01:52:12 ◼ ► Or just you know getting in getting a new pair of shoes that's very comfortable you don't need to really learn how to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6732">TS</a>]
01:52:17 ◼ ► use shoes. Yeah and I feel that the watch is very much like that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6737">TS</a>]
01:52:21 ◼ ► I don't really see so far I haven't really been using the third party apps at all it's just a watch in the way that a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6741">TS</a>]
01:52:29 ◼ ► There's a couple of buttons on the edges that I can press to get some additional information [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6749">TS</a>]
01:52:35 ◼ ► and it also silently notifies me about things that I have chosen for it to notify me. And it's it's it's a big deal. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6755">TS</a>]
01:52:43 ◼ ► I actually already replied to you on the watch once today with one of those messages that you are sending me before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6763">TS</a>]
01:52:49 ◼ ► This was during that time when you couldn't contact me and couldn't tell me you had a watch. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6769">TS</a>]
01:52:54 ◼ ► Yeah this was fifteen minutes before the show and we were instant messaging. Exactly right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6774">TS</a>]
01:53:01 ◼ ► OK Well I don't know if I can send you flowers from the watch I think it's just one of the faces so I don't think those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6781">TS</a>]
01:53:06 ◼ ► are as good. I've been sitting on this really hard flat chair for about two hours now and I've got a really sore back. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6786">TS</a>]
01:53:14 ◼ ► I'm sure listeners want to know. I'm just saying maybe we should stop. Let's stop. Let's stop. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6794">TS</a>]
01:53:20 ◼ ► We have got a couple of other cool items here but I can like you might. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6800">TS</a>]
01:53:24 ◼ ► He's totally lying there's nothing else that I should not use I would say there are no there are two more items here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6804">TS</a>]
01:53:29 ◼ ► you can say them under Brady is frustrating. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6809">TS</a>]
01:53:31 ◼ ► I won't say what they are because you get all upset because you don't want people to know what we're going to discuss [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6811">TS</a>]
01:53:35 ◼ ► next time but you say them you say them but we'll look at the same document. I do I do see them both. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMVqozpU/6815">TS</a>]