00:00:03 ◼ ► and then turn off as you do it like a really funny face and then freeze it because of the smile that worked for you. [TS]
00:00:19 ◼ ► Can you feel the freedom that only comes with being in the United States of America. [TS]
00:00:24 ◼ ► I can definitely tell that you are more free time in your home state. Oh yes you are in New York than the Empire State. [TS]
00:00:32 ◼ ► The greatest name for est ever and I am in New York City talking to you from the Big Apple. [TS]
00:00:38 ◼ ► I am on Manhattan place I do love and I have spent I've been here for about a week and I spent a few days in Boston [TS]
00:00:45 ◼ ► and now I'm back in New York for a few more days doing various things various interviews mainly for a number file. [TS]
00:00:53 ◼ ► In fact do you know who I interviewed who did you interview I interviewed that billionaire that we spoke about in an [TS]
00:01:00 ◼ ► earlier pod cast you know I said I met he was the richest man I'd ever met yet he said How did you interview him [TS]
00:01:04 ◼ ► and I said no not a problem. Every interview you know I went and I interviewed him in his office. [TS]
00:01:11 ◼ ► It's kind of a long story but it's because he's like a he's a mathematician for a second. [TS]
00:01:18 ◼ ► and I felt I felt a little bit of disappointment there were always a fan of mathematics. [TS]
00:01:24 ◼ ► OK I get more sense but for a moment I thought maybe we would have a billionaire listener. [TS]
00:01:28 ◼ ► Yeah did you say he was a patriotic pledge for a two hundred million dollars an episode. [TS]
00:01:40 ◼ ► He knew the podcast I don't think you do a tremendous amount about number fall either but he agreed to an interview [TS]
00:01:49 ◼ ► I'll tell you a story is interesting story I don't know if I should tell this but I'll tell it anyway. [TS]
00:01:53 ◼ ► OK because I went I used a camera man which I never use and he can't so he came along with me and helped me. [TS]
00:02:00 ◼ ► And it's not us it's not a secret so I can say this that that this guy this gentleman does occasionally have a [TS]
00:02:12 ◼ ► I've seen him smoke in public places so I can say you know I'm not I'm not talking of SCO It's funny actually to get to [TS]
00:02:23 ◼ ► OK the billionaire the billionaire smacks so you know he's going to do what he wants. [TS]
00:02:39 ◼ ► Gorgeous office full of beautiful things beautiful furniture works of art on the wall like you know you could tell it [TS]
00:02:51 ◼ ► and then he had like he had he had had a little bit of a cigarette because he'd been working all day so we waited for [TS]
00:02:56 ◼ ► him to finish and that halfway through I think he had another puff of a cigarette and maybe at some other point [TS]
00:03:04 ◼ ► and the interesting thing was each time he had another puff of a cigarette he would then just put out the mostly unused [TS]
00:03:10 ◼ ► cigarette in an ashtray and then when he had another puff he would like start a new cigarette and afterwards [TS]
00:03:18 ◼ ► when we left I was saying to the camera man you know what you think of him you know he has a really nice guy really [TS]
00:03:23 ◼ ► interesting and I was like did he like it. Did it feel like he was really really rich too. [TS]
00:03:31 ◼ ► and the only thing the cameraman said was the moment I knew he was rich was when he would like start a new cigarette. [TS]
00:03:42 ◼ ► and I thought that was so of all the things all the works of art and valuable things and stories he told [TS]
00:03:47 ◼ ► and trappings of wealth the one thing the cameramen noticed that made him think he was rich was he starts new [TS]
00:03:53 ◼ ► cigarettes each time he wants a puff. I guess the first puff is the best half I don't know that the way it works. [TS]
00:04:00 ◼ ► If you're a billionaire you might as well only have first puffs you don't have to deal with second puffs. [TS]
00:04:05 ◼ ► I mean I don't think when he's having a whole cigarette he just has first puff first [TS]
00:04:09 ◼ ► but after first puff I would do that if I was a billionaire. I mean assuming that the first puff is the best path. [TS]
00:04:15 ◼ ► I don't know I've never had a puff of a cigarette mean either so we are not able to talk on the top of the critical [TS]
00:04:20 ◼ ► works people of the world to talk about which puff of a cigarette is the best it has to be the first one [TS]
00:04:25 ◼ ► or I don't know maybe there's a sweet spot in the middle of the cigarette where the where you get the best flavor [TS]
00:04:30 ◼ ► or the best nicotine high or buzz on it. If you're a smoker let us know which buffer is the best part. [TS]
00:04:39 ◼ ► I got money on first first puff is the best puff like I imagine the first puff is the best for other reasons because [TS]
00:04:45 ◼ ► you haven't had like a smoke for you know an hour so you badly want one so that first puff seems the best. [TS]
00:04:51 ◼ ► Well that's that's all that matters. The first puff seems the Best Buy because if you sat down for a smoking session. [TS]
00:05:03 ◼ ► So now you've had your first puff so you know you can say tonight is going to say all right now I'm going to finish a [TS]
00:05:07 ◼ ► cigarette would it be nicer to have a series of that first he centimetres of a cigarette [TS]
00:05:14 ◼ ► and you've got your momentum going you know is there a sweet spot in the middle of a cigarette that tastes nice [TS]
00:05:21 ◼ ► or the oxygens How did you know that temperatures got to some I I don't I am overcome with the need to say don't smoke [TS]
00:05:29 ◼ ► kids. Yeah I think I have to point out that smoking is not necessarily the best idea in fact it's a bad idea. [TS]
00:05:34 ◼ ► Yes it's a terrible idea and neither of us do and we are like we are we are shining examples [TS]
00:05:45 ◼ ► The Brady statue pushing away the coffee Well you know Jubal you pushed for the introvert statue of you inside the [TS]
00:05:51 ◼ ► house and I simply mentioned I think there was no pushing. He started to say he said the saves you were pushing anyway. [TS]
00:06:00 ◼ ► A remarkable thing happened I went to Boston I checked into my hotel in Cambridge where MIT is because I was also doing [TS]
00:06:12 ◼ ► and then immediately the top tweet was a tweet from very stably interpreters you know basically yeah basically saying I [TS]
00:06:22 ◼ ► and I'm doing something at MIT tomorrow he was doing like a public talk with Marco Stephens from the source is also a [TS]
00:06:37 ◼ ► And then as I was rushing another text saying I'm staying at the Cambridge Marriott he sent a text to me that crossed [TS]
00:06:51 ◼ ► but who really cool turned up I got to hang out with him for a few days and then I was like What are you doing next [TS]
00:06:57 ◼ ► and they're like No we're all going to New York. So they all came back to New York as well and they're all in it. [TS]
00:07:08 ◼ ► and it's the second time this is happening because well because I remember one time I was in Berkeley [TS]
00:07:20 ◼ ► and I'm like man you're safe in Cisco I'm here right now as well and that we had dinner that night as well. [TS]
00:07:27 ◼ ► when I was just thinking is Derek travels so much that he's like a quantum wave form over all the cities of the world [TS]
00:07:36 ◼ ► at once. And if so there must always be a non-zero chance that Derek is in any particular city at any particular time. [TS]
00:07:43 ◼ ► Or maybe maybe it's more a bit more Schrodinger and he's in two places at the same time. Right right. [TS]
00:08:00 ◼ ► No it is an infinite number of universes where he sending out messages that even all of the various cities just [TS]
00:08:07 ◼ ► So maybe maybe bumping into Derek all over the world is much much less unlikely than we might first assume he was very [TS]
00:08:19 ◼ ► Oh did he I'm sure he loved that he he really appreciates it and said that it put out. [TS]
00:08:23 ◼ ► Yeah he put up I really enjoyed all the comments and things that happened as a result he said yeah. [TS]
00:08:27 ◼ ► If i Message him now is that that I'm going to hear from Derek I don't know I don't remember saying Oh OK You know I [TS]
00:08:33 ◼ ► think I might be hearing a different story from Derick a very passive if I actually message him directly I think you [TS]
00:08:38 ◼ ► are full of lines pretty full of lines anyway it was a good it was good fun is good fun to see him and Michael [TS]
00:08:45 ◼ ► and some other new people I met the physics go he is a You Tube or I had not met before but she was nice [TS]
00:08:50 ◼ ► and really the big You Tube edu party. I'm envious. Growing science which is a new channel. [TS]
00:08:57 ◼ ► They go he makes a parallel You Tube channel so I've got a lot of catching up to do. [TS]
00:09:00 ◼ ► I still don't know how you do all this traveling your life exhaust me sometimes I feel like I am still barely caught up [TS]
00:09:06 ◼ ► with getting my life back into some kind of normal semblance from my vacation from three weeks ago [TS]
00:09:15 ◼ ► and then going to different cities you just you're impressive You're hard as nails. [TS]
00:09:19 ◼ ► I AM How does nouns but I have to admit I am struggling a bit this time I want to be back home [TS]
00:09:28 ◼ ► But now you're going to have proof of it on the podcast I've said I'm going to impose a travel ban for the next three [TS]
00:09:39 ◼ ► So people on Twitter can keep track of you three months starting when when when when does this begin. [TS]
00:09:51 ◼ ► or if I go away for more than two knots that will be with my wife on a holiday. OK. Yes holidays don't count. [TS]
00:10:00 ◼ ► If you're if you're filming in San Francisco or elsewhere that does that does count [TS]
00:10:08 ◼ ► I wish I hadn't said it now you did say it precisely because you want people to hold you to it. [TS]
00:10:21 ◼ ► Now I think people are people I was going to say I think people are going to ask people have asked asked I don't know [TS]
00:10:28 ◼ ► what they want us to do or say but obviously there's been a great tragedy in the poll as we speak [TS]
00:10:33 ◼ ► and I guess because we talk about in the poll the Mount Everest of the on the podcast people you know as opposed to [TS]
00:10:48 ◼ ► when I did log on Twitter I saw a bunch of messages all telling me oh I guess the random acts of intelligence trip to [TS]
00:10:59 ◼ ► and yes the first thing that I saw was that there had been some massive avalanche down to base camp which you assured [TS]
00:11:10 ◼ ► So this is this is how it originally came across my radar and then looking into it it seems like it has been a much. [TS]
00:11:16 ◼ ► A much bigger earthquake than just that one incident I have to say I I am staggered by how widespread this is because [TS]
00:11:31 ◼ ► and has been really sad saying I mean obviously it's incredibly sad a number of people who died [TS]
00:11:35 ◼ ► but it's also been really said seeing a lot of the landmarks and buildings that I really enjoyed [TS]
00:11:53 ◼ ► but I've been amazed by the scale of the impact it had a Mount Everest. I still think we'd have to be. [TS]
00:12:07 ◼ ► and you still would have been unlikely to have been right in the heart of base camp. [TS]
00:12:11 ◼ ► I feel where you are you're trying to back into the still base camp trip is that where this is going as you try to [TS]
00:12:19 ◼ ► Well I don't want to save the whole tourist industry of the Khumbu Valley obliterated because of you know you know that [TS]
00:12:34 ◼ ► but I don't think there are a lot of people on the margins of who maybe I'll go maybe I won't if you're going to [TS]
00:12:47 ◼ ► But but they'll be totally OK with people going back to Everest will not have paid not a scaredy cats like you Kate [TS]
00:12:56 ◼ ► and you're coming back if the rest of us can know that you know my my statement was that the value proposition changes [TS]
00:13:03 ◼ ► But the value proposition has changed again with earthquake the avalanche of death now very clearly on the horizon as [TS]
00:13:10 ◼ ► well as what you promised me was like oh you'll just be able to relax at base camp you get to chill out just hang out [TS]
00:13:19 ◼ ► It won't be very dangerous and I don't like to misinterpret what this base camp trip is like you don't go [TS]
00:13:23 ◼ ► and spend like time at base camp it's a bit like it's a bit like going on a trip to Paris [TS]
00:13:30 ◼ ► and yet you spend like half an hour at the top of the Eiffel Tower because that's what you do. [TS]
00:13:34 ◼ ► But there's like weeks of stuff on the side and it's like that was by sleep so forget it. [TS]
00:13:52 ◼ ► and then we're also talking about well I guess this is going to put a damper on the chances a great coming with us [TS]
00:13:58 ◼ ► and then he told me about it. A walk in the wilderness that you guys did the day before I arrived in Alabama. [TS]
00:14:06 ◼ ► I wasn't there but I was told and I was shown photographic proof that you were a bit of a lightweight [TS]
00:14:15 ◼ ► and like I saw a picture if you like gingerly holding onto a tree as if you're going to fall over while everyone else [TS]
00:14:28 ◼ ► I won't try to defend myself except for the fact that I was wildly unprepared with the foot gear [TS]
00:14:36 ◼ ► but I had completely worn down perfectly smooth sneakers trying to walk down hills with wet leaves on them so this was [TS]
00:14:44 ◼ ► not ideal circumstances and I was not describe what this would be like probably on purpose. [TS]
00:14:50 ◼ ► Before we set off on it that was not my idea of an entertaining time I believe I called it a death march on the the [TS]
00:15:00 ◼ ► Specially because Henry of Minute Physics who some kind of super hero decides that after he's gotten off a long plane [TS]
00:15:06 ◼ ► flight the thing he needs to do to recuperate is basically March at top speed through the woods [TS]
00:15:15 ◼ ► You get off the plane and I go what do I do is I want to march through the woods and so we did [TS]
00:15:22 ◼ ► I I did not sign up for this I would never have have gone along with this if I knew it was an advance [TS]
00:15:30 ◼ ► but I guarantee if you had been bought blindsided by that you would have been grumpy like me [TS]
00:15:35 ◼ ► and I'm pretty Had I had it all I could walk but like I mean I couldn't keep up with Henry he's like ridiculous [TS]
00:15:51 ◼ ► You look at you like a nice walk like you know I carry London to a big about oh something surprising you forget man [TS]
00:16:00 ◼ ► No parks are not is not is is totally in the city kind of person as you think I am all the time anyway. [TS]
00:16:15 ◼ ► I still think those chaps are going to I'm going to work on it but there is a non-zero chance you are correct. [TS]
00:16:25 ◼ ► or maybe even the last couple of podcasts has been the whole issue of interacting with retail workers. Yes yes. [TS]
00:16:31 ◼ ► Should you you know should you have like a little have a nice day chat if you're a regular and stuff like that. [TS]
00:16:43 ◼ ► And the thing that I was finding kind of frustrating at first was I was getting all the tweets so at Brady Haran said [TS]
00:16:51 ◼ ► No C.H.P. Guy as well and they were all people agreeing with me. Brady Haran I agree with you. [TS]
00:17:01 ◼ ► Two different levels some were saying a little bit sick and some was really like it [TS]
00:17:05 ◼ ► but definitely the overall time that I have a saved is people agreeing with me that bit of interaction is nice [TS]
00:17:14 ◼ ► and I was about to start sending all these things back saying Don't tell me like I already know tell Granny he's the [TS]
00:17:24 ◼ ► and it was a little thing you said something along the lines of Yes I do think that eased Brady. That's crazy. [TS]
00:17:36 ◼ ► That's right that's what I was trying to do there I'm glad you got a bunch of feedback I actually did see it I was [TS]
00:17:42 ◼ ► and also just on the read it I have to say that there was much more positive feedback from retail workers about being [TS]
00:17:51 ◼ ► happy to chit chat with customers or wanting to chit chat with customers than I would have expected [TS]
00:18:00 ◼ ► Oh wait that actually makes more sense I might have first thought because there's going to be a selection bias here [TS]
00:18:22 ◼ ► I could see that for someone who thinks I would enjoy a retail position is much more likely to be an extroverted person [TS]
00:18:27 ◼ ► you probably don't have throngs of introverts trying to get into retail positions. [TS]
00:18:31 ◼ ► There's also probably a second level of bias going on here and that is the source of people who are going to tweet [TS]
00:18:37 ◼ ► and say hey I want to tell you what I think are also the sorts of people who quite like to say this is why I think [TS]
00:18:47 ◼ ► Starbucks pushing for policies where their employees are supposed to talk to the customers because I think the very [TS]
00:18:54 ◼ ► customers who fill out feedback forms and surveys about how their little interactions went at Starbucks [TS]
00:19:01 ◼ ► I think it's the same kind of selection bias that the people who love social interaction are much more likely to fill [TS]
00:19:15 ◼ ► So I think even from from a company perspective they're probably going to hear more from the outgoing people as well. [TS]
00:19:24 ◼ ► and then in Starbucks make them ask for your name which is a terrible policy in London and it's hugely frustrating [TS]
00:19:30 ◼ ► All of that said I have come out the other side of this thinking I'm a bit more in the right than you think more people [TS]
00:19:38 ◼ ► do people good long contact my mother when I told my wife about the conversation she doesn't into the podcast [TS]
00:19:56 ◼ ► You know she thinks she thinks people should interact with each other. Always all the time. [TS]
00:20:03 ◼ ► Generally they're generally let me tell you like a kind of funny funny little thing here about about interaction I just [TS]
00:20:09 ◼ ► noticed so I think I have mentioned before on the podcast that my parents retired from New York down to North Carolina [TS]
00:20:23 ◼ ► and there are a whole bunch of people who use the walking path and the surrounding houses [TS]
00:20:32 ◼ ► and would go on the path I was always kind of just exhausted by the number of people who would say good morning [TS]
00:20:50 ◼ ► And yet To me this is just totally startling and also someone who lives in London. [TS]
00:21:03 ◼ ► But in North Carolina I was surprised because I thought the people density here is too high to keep up his level of [TS]
00:21:13 ◼ ► So it's not like one person every twenty minutes or something it's like a special stream of people both ways. [TS]
00:21:18 ◼ ► I will on this walking path I would say it was probably a busy times like a person a minute [TS]
00:21:29 ◼ ► But my only point here that I did notice was that it was different depending on two factors. [TS]
00:21:37 ◼ ► And my walking with my wife and is the other person walking with a partner of theirs. [TS]
00:21:44 ◼ ► If you have two couples walking down the path it was like one hundred percent guarantee that the other couple is going [TS]
00:21:52 ◼ ► You know and then you say good morning as well and take off your hat and keep walking or whatever [TS]
00:21:56 ◼ ► but if it was to single people and to. In particular single guys walking past each other. [TS]
00:22:02 ◼ ► That was the highest probability of not having to do anything except the nod you know about the not right BRADY Yeah [TS]
00:22:13 ◼ ► and it suggested to me that there are very many people who don't really want to do this [TS]
00:22:17 ◼ ► but I was like oh great we're two guys were just walking past each other on the path. [TS]
00:22:26 ◼ ► but we don't have to we don't have to keep saying like oh hello hello hello to you too sir what a fun day [TS]
00:22:32 ◼ ► and you know do it again and again and again on this walking path. Also having a dog was deaf. [TS]
00:22:38 ◼ ► If I was walking the dog everybody says hi to Grace you should try walking or tree. [TS]
00:22:44 ◼ ► But two guys meeting like alone on a path in the woods does carry a certain amount of baggage that you may want to [TS]
00:22:50 ◼ ► avoid. So I can see why you just move on as quickly as possible. That's exactly it. [TS]
00:22:56 ◼ ► or a knife fight like a bunch of silverback gorilla is all walking past each other on the path [TS]
00:23:02 ◼ ► or we acknowledged each other but we're staying out of it out of our personal space out of out of the territory [TS]
00:23:07 ◼ ► and that's the way it should be. Someone has pointed out this word. Let me I'm going to try to pronounce it. [TS]
00:23:26 ◼ ► Yeah you have to say with a high tone like that high pitch you know how to read those Wikipedia had to say you know I [TS]
00:23:32 ◼ ► do not I can see I'm looking at it literally right now and I see the stupid I.P.A. [TS]
00:23:41 ◼ ► or looks next to it it's got unlearned yet written is alone yet. Lon Yup OK And we're just embarrassing ourselves. [TS]
00:23:49 ◼ ► You're embarrassing yourself because this is your note you didn't look it up and I had it at a time [TS]
00:23:53 ◼ ► when I did put it in the only looked at it like five seconds before we started recording. [TS]
00:23:58 ◼ ► OK To be fair that is more preparation than either. Right here I've got the house. How do you say a guy doing it. [TS]
00:24:07 ◼ ► And Lenya is the way he's saying it just led Yep it looks posh looks like it should be more exotic. [TS]
00:24:16 ◼ ► but I am I'm having a hard time hearing what he's doing with the first one up with the audio [TS]
00:24:19 ◼ ► and because this is the guy that everybody knows as the dude who pronounces words guy learn year [TS]
00:24:32 ◼ ► According to Wikipedia a small gift given to a customer by a merchant at the time of purchase. [TS]
00:24:39 ◼ ► So the example used in the page here is like getting an extra day not when you buy a dozen. [TS]
00:24:44 ◼ ► The example I used last week was the guy I bought from giving me like a sponge to wash my car. [TS]
00:24:52 ◼ ► and I do think it's an interesting phenomenon this whole giving someone something to make them feel special. [TS]
00:24:59 ◼ ► Let go I like as you know you know very I like words you know you have your words. [TS]
00:25:03 ◼ ► Maybe I can appropriate that word sort of free but style and give it some new meaning at some point in the future. [TS]
00:25:09 ◼ ► Oh you know how I could use that when I make when I make a video like you know I like [TS]
00:25:25 ◼ ► but now it doesn't make any sense that the viewers haven't purchased anything terrible re appropriation of this word. [TS]
00:25:40 ◼ ► Would listen even to a customer by a merchant at the time of purchase that's not your bonus video is nothing like that. [TS]
00:25:47 ◼ ► Greg I mean standing your misunderstanding I understand that you're trying to take a word that has a chance likely [TS]
00:25:53 ◼ ► solid definition and broaden it does have a history making. Second Secondly it's like a. [TS]
00:26:07 ◼ ► but Brady does could lend you a video so I don't have any land yap videos I will never have a lanyard video that's not [TS]
00:26:18 ◼ ► and it's a terrible re appropriation No you're breathing in you know whatever you got. I do not approve of this. [TS]
00:26:29 ◼ ► This will not happen I mean I can't stop you but no one will go along with our plan. [TS]
00:26:34 ◼ ► The higher you go in against me the more likely to succeed so I'm just letting you help me I am not helping you learn [TS]
00:26:44 ◼ ► Did you know you well thank you thank you for watching the sled video now it may be a way out of it. [TS]
00:26:52 ◼ ► Let's say I hate I hate it when when words have solid precise specific definitions [TS]
00:27:00 ◼ ► and they kind of turn to mush over time I mean it happens with every single word in existence [TS]
00:27:05 ◼ ► but still I find it frustrating when this occurs. That's all you doing is accelerating this process now. [TS]
00:27:13 ◼ ► One font to follow up here and this this again was something that happened in the city. [TS]
00:27:20 ◼ ► In the last episode I revealed how I use the wolf face as the representation of both my dogs actually because they've [TS]
00:27:28 ◼ ► both got this kind of yellowy beige color to themselves like I'm texting my wife about the dogs [TS]
00:27:37 ◼ ► Anyway huge announcing today and you were tweeting me something about one of my dogs and you used the wolf asymmetry [TS]
00:27:48 ◼ ► and I thought you just used the wrong Ameritrade because instead of this side profile of a yellow dog is forward facing [TS]
00:28:04 ◼ ► when you sent me the emoji back I thought you were just being an idiot I thought you were that white why did he send me [TS]
00:28:09 ◼ ► this back he just wants to copy paste it either. O'Grady he doesn't know what he's doing on the computer. [TS]
00:28:13 ◼ ► No what I did was I went into it because I don't know how to do M O G S in Tweet Deck so I went into my messaging app [TS]
00:28:22 ◼ ► in my office and there it was the yellow dog right and I'll copy and paste it pasted into tweet [TS]
00:28:27 ◼ ► and it still appeared as the dog and as soon as I pressed return it turned into that gray faced dog [TS]
00:28:37 ◼ ► OK it doesn't look so much like a wolf when it's that yellow and it looks more like my dogs so I went into my phone [TS]
00:28:42 ◼ ► and looked at the Twitter conversation in Iowa and sure enough both of us had used the yellow dog [TS]
00:28:48 ◼ ► and I'm like what's going on and like I tweeted to you in the sort of state of confusion [TS]
00:29:03 ◼ ► It appears as the yellow dog that looks like an old tree and in other systems it's this forward facing gray wolf. [TS]
00:29:13 ◼ ► and this was a this is a game changer for me because now depending on who I'm interacting with maybe I can use the [TS]
00:29:22 ◼ ► but this is the weird thing with Moji And you know I have mixed feelings about the M O G. [TS]
00:29:33 ◼ ► and sometimes even particular programs like Tweet Deck will render the M O G differently because there's just this [TS]
00:29:40 ◼ ► description of what it's supposed to be and I think you know for that one it just says Wolf face [TS]
00:29:45 ◼ ► and so Apple decides to draw the wall face in the most on wolf like Will looking way ever. [TS]
00:29:51 ◼ ► and well being your own like lulu dot it doesn't look like a wolf in the slightest it looks like a fox of anything yet. [TS]
00:30:00 ◼ ► People when you see what the descriptions are supposed to be of the people and how various operating systems [TS]
00:30:04 ◼ ► or programs choose to interpret that description so so what would I say. A blond haired girl or something. [TS]
00:30:30 ◼ ► and then Apple has to decide what they want to tweet gray your answers on that one by the way because everyone's going [TS]
00:30:35 ◼ ► on so that I'm going to I'm going to cut that out because I can I can google myself two seconds to five I don't know [TS]
00:30:42 ◼ ► that right you didn't do it when you told people to tweet May you can cut that or leave it in [TS]
00:30:55 ◼ ► But it's seems weird that there's a committee somewhere which is like yeah girl with bunny ears were on top of that. [TS]
00:31:00 ◼ ► that's got to be a thing to do. We made we made that this huge demand forget it by the S. [TS]
00:31:11 ◼ ► and then another one's It's just a face with little bunny ears it's just you don't know what you're what you're sending [TS]
00:31:17 ◼ ► to the other person unless you know for one hundred percent sure that they are using the same program on the same [TS]
00:31:24 ◼ ► That's a real problem Terry because sometimes you like try to make little stories out of your marriage you've got you [TS]
00:31:31 ◼ ► and if the guns went to the other way around suddenly you've gone from shooting one thing to another thing [TS]
00:31:38 ◼ ► M O G they're really designed for interpersonal communication like you are talking to someone you know [TS]
00:31:43 ◼ ► and you are trying to convey something jokey or emotional that is a difficult to do in very short sentences [TS]
00:31:50 ◼ ► but as soon as you start talking about putting a Moji in a in a broader form it becomes very hard like sometimes I [TS]
00:32:09 ◼ ► and this is yet another weird thing about M O G S and the Apple ones are all so weird so weird [TS]
00:32:14 ◼ ► and creepy if you look at the people I like that I've got a little Audrey and they cheat by accident so I like them. [TS]
00:32:24 ◼ ► and maybe she had a sudden spike in not enough was the page where they describe a marriage itself had a sudden spike in [TS]
00:32:36 ◼ ► It nearly hit the top ten on a major Pedia after hello internet mentioned so we whatever however it renders we were [TS]
00:32:44 ◼ ► responsible for a sudden surge in interest is like a great graph that shows as well. [TS]
00:32:49 ◼ ► We were responsible for a surge in interest in the the Waltham H.D. Which I feel I feel good about it now. [TS]
00:32:58 ◼ ► People click on the show notes check things out can push the whole thing symposia to not quite the top ten. [TS]
00:33:06 ◼ ► I you know we must be careful how we have this great power when we left things in the future. [TS]
00:33:11 ◼ ► Yeah be careful take it easy take it easy with those things. Anyway thank you for pointing that out. [TS]
00:33:19 ◼ ► It made me feel good you know that follow up are good don't follow this hello internet episode has been brought to you [TS]
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00:33:49 ◼ ► hassle of transferring other Demain names you've got with another registrar and putting on Jehovah. [TS]
00:33:55 ◼ ► They also handle all the D.N.A.'s stuff I don't know exactly what that means but I know it causes lots of problems. [TS]
00:34:03 ◼ ► Another thing they're really good for is volume discounts if you're someone like one of those people who likes to hold [TS]
00:34:09 ◼ ► lots of domain names but got some really good offers good prices. If you're buying I think it's more than ten. [TS]
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00:34:31 ◼ ► Hava dot com Check them out by the way if you're having problems with my pronunciation. [TS]
00:34:43 ◼ ► They're great fun to work with especially because they let us use all these cool codes so they go to my name's Hava dot [TS]
00:34:57 ◼ ► and that is a person who I know column has names column Bloomfield. He worked for the B.B.C. [TS]
00:35:05 ◼ ► In the East Midlands where I used to work and he was diagnosed with skin cancer a while ago [TS]
00:35:10 ◼ ► and after a really amazing battle with skin cancer that he handled a total class and dignity [TS]
00:35:23 ◼ ► but I just wanted to give him a quick mention here on the podcast as a top man who handled some terrible misfortune in [TS]
00:35:31 ◼ ► a really really classy way and if you ever want to check him out you can Google this guy call him Bloomfield [TS]
00:35:36 ◼ ► and say some of what he did and Grahame even put in the show notes a link to a sort of a foundation or a trust [TS]
00:35:43 ◼ ► or something that was started in columns Name of course raise money to do with skin cancer awareness in the part of [TS]
00:35:51 ◼ ► So rest and paste to a column going forward and if everyone has different things they like to support [TS]
00:36:05 ◼ ► Lincoln the Johnsons now I have I have another little thank you sort of sort of plug for lack of a better word that I [TS]
00:36:13 ◼ ► should mention and that is today I am recording in an incredibly hot sound. Yeah go on over there. [TS]
00:36:20 ◼ ► When the door was closed I thought I know how that's going to go. Sound isolation is also heat. [TS]
00:36:30 ◼ ► but I am grateful for the opportunity because obviously New York is a very loud place [TS]
00:36:43 ◼ ► and Ted adding their little educational spin off that makes these really cool educational videos. [TS]
00:36:49 ◼ ► So thank you to Logan from Ted for making this possible and giving me a bit of space. [TS]
00:36:56 ◼ ► but a space this is the same Logan who we mentioned on the previous episode who started that very interesting. [TS]
00:37:01 ◼ ► Call me Ishmael project on You Tube where people leave a voice mails about books that they like. [TS]
00:37:14 ◼ ► and it's not getting the traction that it should on You Tube the viewer numbers not high enough what a cool idea it is [TS]
00:37:24 ◼ ► and spin off things going on in bookstores and libraries and all these people are so excited about the project [TS]
00:37:30 ◼ ► and he's got so many balls in the air and now as a result of it he's having all this success [TS]
00:37:35 ◼ ► and you know on You Tube where you can just go and listen to these things for free and watch these nifty little videos. [TS]
00:37:40 ◼ ► It's not getting the traction it should. So I don't check it out. I tell you what. [TS]
00:37:46 ◼ ► I'm here saying how great it is you know you don't check it out etc etc And you know I am yet to leave a voice mail [TS]
00:37:53 ◼ ► about a book on it so I'm not practicing what I preach and you know what as you know I stopped me. What. [TS]
00:38:00 ◼ ► Choose a book because it's not about just recommending a book that you think is good. [TS]
00:38:08 ◼ ► and leave a message always have these really touching stories about how booklet changed their life [TS]
00:38:13 ◼ ► or made a real impression on them and I read lots of books and I like lots of them [TS]
00:38:22 ◼ ► Really have you go on if you were going to do a Call me Ishmael what book would you plucked from the shelf. [TS]
00:38:27 ◼ ► What's the book that you would like do a two minute message about and say this This book is important [TS]
00:38:33 ◼ ► Well call me a smale is is high stakes high high intensity there because you're calling a voicemail service you don't [TS]
00:38:41 ◼ ► have the chance to go back and edit what you're saying you've got to do it all right. All one that's left you hyper. [TS]
00:38:48 ◼ ► You're for me but it couldn't you couldn't you record like play it down all the kids take it yes. [TS]
00:39:00 ◼ ► and say Look can I send you a file as I think he probably would let you do that because the idea is that it is a phone [TS]
00:39:06 ◼ ► and I think he has far too much integrity to allow me to cheat the system in that way is a pretty is a pretty straight [TS]
00:39:13 ◼ ► I'm just honestly surprised that you can't think of a single book that has had a major influence on your life because [TS]
00:39:23 ◼ ► Well I mean maybe that overstates the case but I do read books but it's like I read lots of books [TS]
00:39:29 ◼ ► and think that was also a man a brilliant Oh I wish I wrote or like it makes me think about some cool space thing [TS]
00:39:36 ◼ ► or science e thing on Mount Everest or something like there are lots of books that I read and go that's awesome [TS]
00:39:42 ◼ ► but I can't think of a book that's got this amazing story that made me think you know now I'm going to go [TS]
00:40:00 ◼ ► I think about things and you know and all those things chip away at you and change you [TS]
00:40:04 ◼ ► but I can't think of one book that was like well I'm going to change the course of my life. Have you got one. [TS]
00:40:21 ◼ ► So I go the less interesting one first of the messenger the one is vastly more important in some ways [TS]
00:40:27 ◼ ► and that is getting things done by David Allen which I've mentioned before on the part of the book I really like. [TS]
00:40:32 ◼ ► But there really was no joke in the book that allowed me to transition from I mean idiots who can't do anything. [TS]
00:40:45 ◼ ► and change the course of my life I think that that book definitely had the biggest single impact of any book that I [TS]
00:40:51 ◼ ► ever read. Say I say it like it could just if that be if the podcast and check it out call me Ishmael. [TS]
00:40:58 ◼ ► We have licensing licensing agreements I think if he's trying to have to give us to give have to give us a big cash yes [TS]
00:41:08 ◼ ► but it is it is really true I feel like there is a time in my life before I read Getting Things Done [TS]
00:41:25 ◼ ► but I hope maybe from what you know of my No I don't think anything would help your break I'm going to be honest here. [TS]
00:41:36 ◼ ► but I also don't know if anything if you need anything to help you. You seem pretty happy. [TS]
00:41:43 ◼ ► What's your other book that started me down the course of deciding that I wanted to do physics as a major [TS]
00:41:48 ◼ ► and going to college that I went to to do physics which was Stephen Hawking's A Brief History of Time which I know you [TS]
00:41:57 ◼ ► understood that book. OK well. Here I read the illustrated edition back in high school which is beautiful by the way. [TS]
00:42:08 ◼ ► It's a big big book that has these amazing diagrams on all the pages the diagrams they really help. [TS]
00:42:14 ◼ ► If you're going to read A Brief History of Time I highly suggest you get the illustrated version I was kind of not [TS]
00:42:23 ◼ ► It happens to be the way that my school did physics each year of science was all by itself. [TS]
00:42:28 ◼ ► So in freshman year we just did think it was all geology and then sophomore year we just did all biology [TS]
00:42:37 ◼ ► and junior year it was all chemistry so you didn't have like how I taught here where it's mixed up every year so I was [TS]
00:42:47 ◼ ► and I really liked it so that one that one definitely is a book that I can point to as having a big a big impact on my [TS]
00:42:56 ◼ ► All right well if you enjoy hearing that little vignette from Gray and you want to hear hundreds [TS]
00:43:01 ◼ ► and hundreds of more people talk about books I liked check out called me a smile and that will make like an happy [TS]
00:43:07 ◼ ► and manes he will let me use his booth again on a future trip to New York to record hello internet. [TS]
00:43:12 ◼ ► And that's end game for me for you. Yeah and it's a good sign and lichens a good man. Let's move on. [TS]
00:43:26 ◼ ► and I've bought him tickets for the bicycle to not baseball left alone shuttlecocks right now baseball [TS]
00:43:38 ◼ ► Does anybody die in those games to the shoot the players in front of you if they don't do well is that how that works. [TS]
00:43:50 ◼ ► You must you know it might by sport by sport so boring so boring you know just boring but you understand that [TS]
00:43:57 ◼ ► but you do kind of understand the rules of that one. Yes just because it's like it's in your D.N.A. Isn't it. [TS]
00:44:02 ◼ ► Because I had to play it in Jim and I would always remember far left field is the position that you want [TS]
00:44:11 ◼ ► I would always go for is far left field and there just is no such thing as far left field daydreaming. [TS]
00:44:20 ◼ ► and that I would pay money to see you playing baseball like that would just make me laugh. [TS]
00:44:32 ◼ ► and actually is making me smile like the problem was always the being in the outfield [TS]
00:44:39 ◼ ► and trying to do like the catches and fast passes I could you know that was just hopeless. [TS]
00:44:44 ◼ ► and that's super satisfying if you play baseball even for someone who has no interest in sports I would never do it on [TS]
00:44:51 ◼ ► when you hit the baseball that that crack of the bat is a very satisfying enjoyable experience so I have played [TS]
00:45:02 ◼ ► The thing I can imagine though is you running like you running just doesn't come into my head very easily. [TS]
00:45:10 ◼ ► Really you know this is a parental requirement that I try some sports and I don't know why [TS]
00:45:16 ◼ ► but somehow I thought track would be the easiest because it wasn't a team sports so I was thinking everybody could just [TS]
00:45:26 ◼ ► but I don't have to interact with the other people fine I can do this but I really hate a track [TS]
00:45:29 ◼ ► and I give it up as soon as I possibly could but I was very briefly on the track team. [TS]
00:45:34 ◼ ► I can't imagine you're running action. I just can't imagine what that would be like. [TS]
00:45:37 ◼ ► It's amazing Brady I don't like to run but when I do run it is majestic. You're good. [TS]
00:45:42 ◼ ► Yeah it's like watching Tom Cruise run it's just amazing it's cinematic is what it is I just you have to do with Pitt's [TS]
00:45:50 ◼ ► crack at the high speed camera some time it makes a video as if you are reading now is not going to happen every time. [TS]
00:45:57 ◼ ► OK we have to move on because you have. Written in the show notes bra shopping. Are you shopping for bras Brady. [TS]
00:46:04 ◼ ► I this is a topic that I am already regretting. Too late now. Yeah let's do this. Came about the other day. [TS]
00:46:15 ◼ ► Basically you know my wife would enjoy shopping for clothes. She's a very she's a very fashionable woman she is. [TS]
00:46:21 ◼ ► I quite enjoy going with her and she will be looking at dresses and all the different things that she looks at me. [TS]
00:46:27 ◼ ► She asks my opinion and I try to give them and I know actually what I really enjoy sort of going off on my own [TS]
00:46:43 ◼ ► And she looked and she likes what I found so I am not averse to clothes shopping but there is a problem [TS]
00:46:50 ◼ ► and I know this is like discipline. This must surely only apply to men who have female partners. [TS]
00:47:00 ◼ ► I can't think what other configuration this would cause the same level of awkwardness to live anyway. [TS]
00:47:09 ◼ ► when she ventures into the bra section of the shop I find this a very very difficult [TS]
00:47:16 ◼ ► and very awkward to know what to do because at that point I can browse on my own really. [TS]
00:47:27 ◼ ► Yeah yeah I could of course and I know there are men who you know of to buy luxury for that for their partner [TS]
00:47:32 ◼ ► but you know yeah you don't need to stick to traditional gender stereotypes here Brady you can you can be a new modern [TS]
00:47:44 ◼ ► when I'm shopping so I like to strike all the fabric and stuff and I think if I'm just like you stroke the microphone. [TS]
00:47:53 ◼ ► and I feel quite comfortable sort of striking all the dresses in the fabric to see what what they're like if I'm in the [TS]
00:47:59 ◼ ► if I'm in the. Section I feel like I would look a bit wrong if I'm like streaking streaking underwear. No no no. [TS]
00:48:08 ◼ ► Brady You have to you have to touch it to know the quality of the material so I don't see why you should definitely go [TS]
00:48:14 ◼ ► ahead with this behavior but I don't feel comfortable being like I know this is my insecurities and the other [TS]
00:48:19 ◼ ► and the other thing is I find if I'm in the you know dress section I'm quite comfortable making eye contact with other [TS]
00:48:30 ◼ ► but if I'm in the brass section Suddenly I feel like if I'm looking like another woman shopping [TS]
00:48:43 ◼ ► I feel I feel like a bit of a weird i don't know I'm not and I can I know this is just one securities. [TS]
00:48:49 ◼ ► Anyway while this was happening the thing that occurred to me was what to see G.P. Grade what would you do. [TS]
00:48:57 ◼ ► Do you like because like I find myself in this situation and it seems like an awkward situation [TS]
00:49:03 ◼ ► and as I said I thought to myself that Gray doesn't even do this a bit he just walks away [TS]
00:49:07 ◼ ► but then I realized I didn't so I thought I'm going to ask OK Do you brush up on your own with your wife do you have a [TS]
00:49:23 ◼ ► I think we are sometimes so different we can't even conceive of the level of difference in the other person because I [TS]
00:49:37 ◼ ► but right out of the gate your story was just totally different from what I was expecting. What were you expecting. [TS]
00:49:42 ◼ ► Well I was expecting the much more standard version of the story which is that you get dragged shopping with your [TS]
00:49:49 ◼ ► partner and that you you have to tag along and then you find yourself in the bra section and oh isn't it embarrassing. [TS]
00:50:01 ◼ ► Not only gleeful but but actively participating in your honour's shopping expedition hunting I was bringing them back. [TS]
00:50:11 ◼ ► Well I wouldn't say gleeful like clearly the thing I wanted to look at the gadgets and technology and things [TS]
00:50:22 ◼ ► and I share a lot of things we find interesting that can share in a chair maybe or we both like and takes [TS]
00:50:28 ◼ ► and because she wants to look at clothes happy to do that like I said like I say there's a little challenge. [TS]
00:50:35 ◼ ► I wouldn't like beg to go clothes shopping but I don't even like clothes shopping for men's clothes [TS]
00:50:40 ◼ ► but that I would do it so I would say I would say I begged or gleeful but I do do it [TS]
00:50:52 ◼ ► and I'm willing to do it because you know I want to help my wife and join her for the expedition. [TS]
00:51:01 ◼ ► and a bit like I just haven't learned how to do it yet I haven't learned how to do a CO because I'm just maybe not a [TS]
00:51:07 ◼ ► cool guy. So where you just you just don't go clothes shopping at all or like where do you stand on this. [TS]
00:51:14 ◼ ► Many many years ago before I met the woman who would become my wife when I was involved in relations with other women. [TS]
00:51:27 ◼ ► and because there was I was a younger person a person who wasn't thinking about how their life is going [TS]
00:51:37 ◼ ► I just went along with this because it's what you see everybody else do you go into any any clothing shop primarily for [TS]
00:51:49 ◼ ► Yeah usually burdened like alpacas right with with bags slung over their backs that they are that they are carrying. [TS]
00:52:11 ◼ ► but I feel like it was a full work days worth of shopping for clothing with a particular person [TS]
00:52:18 ◼ ► and this was supposed to be the weekend and I know I was going to have a whole day to myself. [TS]
00:52:22 ◼ ► I know you have a whole day under fluorescent lighting looking at clothing that's not even for you [TS]
00:52:33 ◼ ► That's really the exhausting part of of this is it's not even it's not even the being there it's the thousand little [TS]
00:52:56 ◼ ► There's no there's no I don't need to do that I don't need to give up my weekends to go clothing shopping for another [TS]
00:53:00 ◼ ► person. If someone asked me to go clothing shopping with them the answer is just no no I'm not going clothing shopping. [TS]
00:53:07 ◼ ► I have no interest in this and I will be of no help and it will be just a total misery and [TS]
00:53:14 ◼ ► So from that day onward I have not gone clothing shopping with any of the partners in my life now very luckily my wife [TS]
00:53:24 ◼ ► never even knew about this policy because she never even asked me to ever to go clothing shopping with her it would [TS]
00:53:31 ◼ ► never occur to her to bring me along clothing shopping so this is this works out very well. [TS]
00:53:43 ◼ ► but do you know she doesn't want me to think maybe she might get pleasure from you being there and helping [TS]
00:53:50 ◼ ► but she doesn't want you there probably because you're a grumpy Guess who doesn't like it. [TS]
00:53:53 ◼ ► But would she want you there if you will like being helpful and supportive and interested. [TS]
00:53:58 ◼ ► She doesn't want it she doesn't want me there because. If she doesn't want to be there either. [TS]
00:54:10 ◼ ► It's just much slower and it never crossed my mind but my wife has very often complained that [TS]
00:54:15 ◼ ► when she goes shopping she has to deal with all of these partners of the other women in the stores blocking the aisles [TS]
00:54:29 ◼ ► You can't make like the can you move to the side gesture because they're just looking at their feet on the you know on [TS]
00:54:35 ◼ ► the floor trying to get out of the way so my wife is frustrated by the other men in the women's clothing department who [TS]
00:54:41 ◼ ► obviously don't want to be there who are just sad sacks who are beasts of burden and holding up a bunch of bags [TS]
00:54:47 ◼ ► and you know what let me take this moment. Let me use that like the power of the podcast here. [TS]
00:55:03 ◼ ► and you're listening to a podcast to try to escape the horrible drudgery of following your partner around on a shopping [TS]
00:55:11 ◼ ► expedition on the weekend perhaps perhaps that Sunday you could be doing all kinds of great stuff watching sports ball [TS]
00:55:18 ◼ ► on the T.V. Instead or something I don't know whatever. Whatever you do. World of Warcraft thing. [TS]
00:55:32 ◼ ► You're a grown person your partner is presumably a grown person. You can each shop for clothing on your own. [TS]
00:55:54 ◼ ► and that is something that gives her pleasure. Enjoy it as well enjoy her pleasure. [TS]
00:56:02 ◼ ► and doing things that make her happy with you is a positive experience doing things both enjoy is a positive experience. [TS]
00:56:10 ◼ ► If you don't enjoy it but she wants you to be there for support be it moral or financial also even better also. [TS]
00:56:20 ◼ ► Oh say oh say enjoy that because one day you will both be old and slow and I'm happy [TS]
00:56:33 ◼ ► You're probably going to sit there thinking I wish I did more things with my partner. [TS]
00:56:38 ◼ ► And finally one final one final thing if you like me find yourself in the brass section [TS]
00:56:44 ◼ ► and you have figured out how to make that work. Do let me know because because I can't figure it out. [TS]
00:56:58 ◼ ► and take you out of this situation for which there is no way to win I don't want to I don't want to spend less time [TS]
00:57:03 ◼ ► with my life I don't think there are very many men who have on their deathbed thought I wish I did more clothing [TS]
00:57:10 ◼ ► shopping. Well that's the way you're presenting that there I don't think that that's accurate. [TS]
00:57:15 ◼ ► Well you're right we act we are quite different and pretty much a kind of half expected this result like when I [TS]
00:57:22 ◼ ► when I sent you that text from the brass section of the shop which was awkward in itself because I was taking out my [TS]
00:57:30 ◼ ► I did think I pick grain everything finds himself in these brass sections no he would just because he's a stubborn [TS]
00:57:40 ◼ ► or you know you know you know it's you know you turn these things at the very end into something something more than [TS]
00:57:47 ◼ ► they are it's you always do that that's your annulling Yes but I don't accept the other example [TS]
00:57:54 ◼ ► and I will just broaden it out into oh he never does anything that he doesn't like for his pa. [TS]
00:58:00 ◼ ► Never you know that's not at all the situation but I do but I just did enjoy anyway to the degree that was taking it [TS]
00:58:10 ◼ ► Yeah yeah exactly if you want to get the final word in and let you look like oh look at you the chief hero Brady [TS]
00:58:16 ◼ ► and all that but it means that your hero I'm a creepy weird guy staring at his shoes in the brass section. [TS]
00:58:25 ◼ ► OK Well thank you for your advice is kind of what I expected but it's still interesting to hear. [TS]
00:58:37 ◼ ► Sometimes if my wife and I are out and she happens to see something in a store that she's interested in. [TS]
00:58:43 ◼ ► Yes she'll pop in really quick to take a look. Many stores have what is very obviously set up as the man waiting area. [TS]
00:58:51 ◼ ► They'll have like a little chair at the front which is so clearly for husbands of things to wait in these expeditions [TS]
00:59:01 ◼ ► but surely there is some place that you can just retreat for a few moments while the bra shopping is being done. [TS]
00:59:10 ◼ ► If it's going to be lengthy and there's another place within like a line sometimes I will go but I don't know. [TS]
00:59:20 ◼ ► She wants to do things together and Lord knows you know I'm in New York for two weeks [TS]
00:59:29 ◼ ► I think we have spend more time talking about bras than I thought we ever would in the history of this broadcast today. [TS]
00:59:39 ◼ ► Hello Internet is sponsored by audible dot com It's almost impossible to believe at this point that someone might not [TS]
00:59:45 ◼ ► know what audible is but in case you don't they are quote the leading provider of spoken audio information [TS]
00:59:55 ◼ ► You should listen to a lot of them as Brady and I discussed before. A good book. Can Change Your Life. [TS]
01:00:03 ◼ ► and so today I'm going to pick a science recommendation which is A Short History of Nearly Everything by Bill Bryson. [TS]
01:00:13 ◼ ► This is a different book from A Brief History of Time by Stephen Hawking which of course is also an audible because [TS]
01:00:22 ◼ ► But today I'm recommending A Short History of Nearly Everything by Bill Bryson. It is a very enjoyable listen. [TS]
01:00:30 ◼ ► That is kind of an overview of all of the history of all of the various sciences put together. [TS]
01:00:37 ◼ ► And Bryson who I have recommended before as an author that I quite like does a really great job of just approaching all [TS]
01:00:45 ◼ ► of these various topics and he has a unique knack for explaining things in a very funny way [TS]
01:00:50 ◼ ► and big portions of the book take place here in London at the Natural History Museum which. [TS]
01:00:56 ◼ ► If you've ever read the book. Visiting the museum then is a much more in-depth experience. [TS]
01:01:04 ◼ ► and I also listened to the audio book which is done by Richard Matthews who just has a great great narration voice that [TS]
01:01:14 ◼ ► And as you may know if you are plugged into the Amazon ecosystem you can switch back and forth between the two. [TS]
01:01:20 ◼ ► Read it on your Kindle Paperwhite and then listen to it on your audio player of choice [TS]
01:01:29 ◼ ► So if you want to listen to it audible has it with a zillion books in every genre covering just about everything you [TS]
01:01:39 ◼ ► Now if you go to audible dot com slash hello internet you can listen to A Brief History of Nearly Everything by Bryson [TS]
01:01:51 ◼ ► Going to audible dot com slash hello internet lets audible know that you came from our show so they keep supporting the [TS]
01:01:58 ◼ ► show and it gets you a fur. Book It's a pretty good deal for everybody. So go check it out. [TS]
01:02:08 ◼ ► BILL BRYSON learn about a bunch of interesting science history with a very pleasant narration. [TS]
01:02:16 ◼ ► Should we move on should we move on to something else that is in the area of retail. [TS]
01:02:19 ◼ ► OK I will move on to something else what's next and you know what it is it's a Brady's papercut. [TS]
01:02:30 ◼ ► but obviously there's yeah there is like a whole thing people can go much to if they want their lives elsewhere. [TS]
01:02:42 ◼ ► or an automated self serve checkouts Is that what they call me like at the supermarket or various stores [TS]
01:02:47 ◼ ► but yet supermarkets and other stores that are little convenience stores things like that. [TS]
01:02:52 ◼ ► Yeah I cannot tell you how much I dislike these things now. Come on man and my dislike for them is ever increasing. [TS]
01:03:08 ◼ ► I just can't tell me what tell me what it is I'm just reading a few little subtle nuances in your reaction here. [TS]
01:03:15 ◼ ► Listen they might be a mighty lately they might be one of the greatest inventions of mankind. [TS]
01:03:23 ◼ ► They're just I think that I got today that the only basis you were if you were inventions have made my life faster [TS]
01:03:34 ◼ ► better easier and more pleasurable on a daily experience than the automated phone to tell me that my thing slower [TS]
01:03:40 ◼ ► and less pleasurable. You just don't know how to communicate with the machines I think is the problem. [TS]
01:03:45 ◼ ► It's OK Just tell me tell me what it is what is it that's what's so bad about the best thing ever. [TS]
01:04:00 ◼ ► If I asked you know putting things in the bags anyway so I slows it slows me down. [TS]
01:04:05 ◼ ► I find like sometimes they don't scan or a cough on the barcode or then something goes wrong [TS]
01:04:10 ◼ ► and the person's going to come over with a magic swipe anything to override the machine [TS]
01:04:15 ◼ ► and give permission for something and then you've got a you're going to do everything yourself with the paying [TS]
01:04:20 ◼ ► and I won't accept the money or the there's a problem with it and also because the becoming so omni present [TS]
01:04:26 ◼ ► and they having less and less real stuff that becoming just massive queues for them anyway. [TS]
01:04:32 ◼ ► So Dog you're still waiting in a huge queue to get through anyway and it's taking away. [TS]
01:04:37 ◼ ► Yes Here I'm going to say it's taking away another level of human interactions where I can just like be talking to a [TS]
01:04:46 ◼ ► Scanning things and is experienced at using bags and can do it quicker than me anyway [TS]
01:04:59 ◼ ► It's just an interaction with a human that I like I just they do my head in. Dislike them and. [TS]
01:05:18 ◼ ► or two I'm like oh I could never have lived without it automated checkouts I'm not going in that direction. [TS]
01:05:24 ◼ ► Automatic check outs are going in the opposite direction and I know you're Mr robots will take over the world [TS]
01:05:29 ◼ ► and of course are going to think the opposite to me but it is a paper of mine on a daily basis [TS]
01:05:34 ◼ ► and I'm hating them more and more. The robots taking people's jobs thing is a whole separate issue. [TS]
01:05:38 ◼ ► Putting aside the massive unemployment these things might cause which wouldn't be good for my own personal self is [TS]
01:05:48 ◼ ► and as we've discussed many times a whole bunch of the little stores on my my Erin's routines places I need to go have [TS]
01:06:02 ◼ ► and if you know how to use them they're faster I mean I do see you know little old ladies get confused with the scanner [TS]
01:06:12 ◼ ► and of course for that person it takes way longer than it does if you if you can use the machine competently. [TS]
01:06:18 ◼ ► But if you know what you're doing it's just a crazy bam right in the store grab a thing scan a boop boop boop. [TS]
01:06:26 ◼ ► when they have the contactless cards here if you just tap the card happily on top of the machine. [TS]
01:06:31 ◼ ► It goes right everything's fine the transactions through out you go. You don't even have to pick up the receipt. [TS]
01:06:36 ◼ ► If it's so nice it's so great I love everything about it and if you don't put it in the bag [TS]
01:06:42 ◼ ► and like you know three point two seconds it's like oh you have a bagging area malfunction problem they're always [TS]
01:06:51 ◼ ► and this has happened the first couple times they use a checkout machine and now maybe. [TS]
01:06:57 ◼ ► One in a hundred times now this this thing happens because others didn't put the bag in the check out. [TS]
01:07:08 ◼ ► and it's fine two seconds later this this is not some huge problem unless you're just completely incapable of scanning [TS]
01:07:27 ◼ ► or you know at least somewhere near the middle and I have problems with them I don't enjoy them. [TS]
01:07:32 ◼ ► And once you go on the line for the people then there's almost always a people on by I will I will always go in alone [TS]
01:07:38 ◼ ► for the people if I care if one exists and it's not onerous compared to if it's a fifty fifty [TS]
01:07:45 ◼ ► or sixty forty proposition I will go to the person the other day I was using one just two days ago here in New York [TS]
01:08:00 ◼ ► They autumns and I'm like a turn to the Hill there was a woman behind the counter another woman there. [TS]
01:08:05 ◼ ► This isn't working and they're like Oh sorry it's not working and I said Can you just put this through [TS]
01:08:25 ◼ ► and use the machine I'm like you've got the thing right in front of you or you're serving someone two seconds ago [TS]
01:08:30 ◼ ► and I just shoved in their face and said put it these are the charming human interaction that you miss [TS]
01:08:38 ◼ ► Well yeah because these were like C G P great people who were like oh no we don't want to we just want you to go [TS]
01:08:43 ◼ ► and use machines. Now if I had a great people that's what it is because those are social skills failing there. [TS]
01:08:55 ◼ ► There's one supermarket in particular which should obviously have self checkout machines that I sometimes have to use [TS]
01:09:00 ◼ ► and it doesn't say how great you just have a bunch of humans here this is the worst [TS]
01:09:05 ◼ ► but my most frequent supermarket I'm irritated because they only have a single line that feeds into both machines [TS]
01:09:13 ◼ ► and humans and that's great now I don't have the choice behind him the total weirdo who [TS]
01:09:21 ◼ ► If one of the humans waves me over I will let the person behind me go ahead and I will wait for machine. [TS]
01:09:31 ◼ ► It does sometimes seem a bit awkward if I happen to wave a couple people through in a row like no I'd much rather use [TS]
01:09:38 ◼ ► This way I also don't have a you know some person who's touching other people all day long touching their cards [TS]
01:09:44 ◼ ► touching their things then touching my things as well. No no thank you. This way I handle the bags. [TS]
01:09:49 ◼ ► I check it out on the machine and I never have any problems with the machines or exceedingly rarely. [TS]
01:10:12 ◼ ► Nope I don't need to do the futures go on my way on this right everything's coming up D.G.P. Gray. [TS]
01:10:23 ◼ ► I mean that the tray of beautiful you know metal so it will live in a world with no color whatsoever I am very happy [TS]
01:10:32 ◼ ► that once again the application that runs my entire life. The focus is back sponsoring the show. [TS]
01:10:41 ◼ ► The focus is a complete task management system for your life if you want to just keep simple to do list items. [TS]
01:10:51 ◼ ► If like me you want to have hundreds of projects and thousands of actions all track together in one system. [TS]
01:10:57 ◼ ► And have crazy complicated repeating templates that use external scripting methods Omni Focus can do that [TS]
01:11:04 ◼ ► but it doesn't have to. It can be exactly the amount of To-Do list that you need you need a lot. [TS]
01:11:12 ◼ ► It can be a lot you need a little it can be a little and it's everywhere you need it to be all day long. [TS]
01:11:20 ◼ ► I actually have it set up so that when my computer turns on Omni Focus automatically turns on [TS]
01:11:25 ◼ ► and you can also have me focus on your phone and your i Pad and now your fancy Apple Watch [TS]
01:11:30 ◼ ► and it all sinks together with their omnipresence system which is custom designed just for Omni Focus [TS]
01:11:38 ◼ ► and a bunch of the other amazing programs by the Omni group most of which I also use one of the biggest features for me [TS]
01:11:48 ◼ ► and dice all of the to do's that you have so that you can only see the things that are relevant to you right now. [TS]
01:11:56 ◼ ► The simple version of this is that you can just see airings that you need to run on. [TS]
01:12:00 ◼ ► or phone calls that you need to make all at once without having to look at every single thing that's in your system. [TS]
01:12:06 ◼ ► But I like to use this for certain kinds of things that I'm working on so just with the press of a button I can see all [TS]
01:12:20 ◼ ► But perhaps one of the most useful ways to divide up my own projects is that I can just see all of the tasks that I can [TS]
01:12:31 ◼ ► but I can still do kind of boring non-thinking tasks at that very moment I don't want to search through all of my [TS]
01:12:40 ◼ ► I just want to press a button boom I can see all the things that I can do without having to think too hard about it [TS]
01:12:46 ◼ ► I have tried every task management program and every to do list manager under the sun [TS]
01:12:55 ◼ ► and the one that I really rely on Keeping Up with the theme of books that have changed your life getting things done [TS]
01:13:04 ◼ ► The focus is designed if you want it to to work as a perfect implementation of getting things done. [TS]
01:13:25 ◼ ► Check out Omni Focus I'm going to send you to the one for the i Phone just to get started on something. [TS]
01:13:30 ◼ ► And give it a whirl and you can just try it because the focus comes with a money back guarantee you don't like it. [TS]
01:13:39 ◼ ► Get in touch with the Omni group. They'll work to refund your purchase. How many apps on the App Store do that. [TS]
01:13:44 ◼ ► Basically nobody nobody does that but the group is so confident in their products that they are willing to do that. [TS]
01:13:52 ◼ ► Go to the show notes click right now change your life. So let's do. Two topics because I think you have my topics. [TS]
01:14:04 ◼ ► Yeah the top topic here says Brady is frustrating. I believe this relates to the Apple Watch. OK. Oh OK yeah yeah yeah. [TS]
01:14:18 ◼ ► OK So let's let's let's to graze Apple Watch corner first we're doing Brady is frustrating corner because their [TS]
01:14:25 ◼ ► internet this is for you by the way I am frustrated on your behalf because Brady you know we do this podcast together [TS]
01:14:35 ◼ ► and I think in those moments it is useful to take notes about the interesting thing that you might want to talk about [TS]
01:14:42 ◼ ► Because we're often recording you know ten days or a week and a half after some event has actually occurred [TS]
01:14:55 ◼ ► and I'm trying to get him to take notes for you listener so that you can have a more pleasurable experience. [TS]
01:15:02 ◼ ► But every time some Brady text me about something interesting happening I text back and say Take notes [TS]
01:15:09 ◼ ► and what do you say BRADY You know I'm not going to take notes because you just respect the audience. [TS]
01:15:15 ◼ ► What if you were a better interviewer I wouldn't make notes because you would just you would message information out of [TS]
01:15:37 ◼ ► and this is a skill that I will never have so this is why I beg of you to take notes [TS]
01:15:40 ◼ ► when you're doing something interesting but you don't. That's pretty is frustrating corner. [TS]
01:15:45 ◼ ► So what's great is talking about is shortly after the last podcast twenty Gray had say in the Apple Watch [TS]
01:16:06 ◼ ► and we both had you know a little half an hour in the store with the Apple Watch man who enthusiastically showed us [TS]
01:16:13 ◼ ► everything and let us try everything on and we did all of that and it's done. What did you think of the experience. [TS]
01:16:23 ◼ ► Cover You remember here what would you like tonight what would you like tonight I will answer all your questions. [TS]
01:16:34 ◼ ► If as long as it's a little bit more specific then we used what did you think of that. [TS]
01:16:38 ◼ ► We've already established I'm terrible at asking good questions. OK Well I don't like I just want to hear. [TS]
01:16:43 ◼ ► I would what I would want you to do is go through your notes but you have no notes. Let's cut to the chase. [TS]
01:16:48 ◼ ► Let's let's start at the end let's cut to the chase. Back at the text message conversation might scroll back. [TS]
01:16:58 ◼ ► My current position is having done it. Still I don't want to get one and have no intention of getting one. [TS]
01:17:07 ◼ ► So that's that's the headline of black like a good newspaper man I'm doing the inverted pyramid [TS]
01:17:12 ◼ ► but the newspaper story starting with Brady Harum will not buy an apple watch you know watch for me says Brady Haran [TS]
01:17:18 ◼ ► says he says hair and so there we go even better no swearing no I said no which for me says hair [TS]
01:17:25 ◼ ► and maybe you've got to start with a strong word in the newspaper and then it's all downhill from that headline. [TS]
01:17:35 ◼ ► So I'm not going to get one if you had my impressions are that it was I expected it to be nicer looking than I expected [TS]
01:17:46 ◼ ► and it was if that makes sense. OK it's a party for a second. Just think about it you expect. [TS]
01:17:57 ◼ ► Wait I didn't like what it looks like in pictures but. I knew when I saw it for real. [TS]
01:18:01 ◼ ► I would think wow that does look better than the pictures. And indeed that is what happened. [TS]
01:18:12 ◼ ► I knew it would be more impressive in real life and it was then you were expecting it to be [TS]
01:18:20 ◼ ► and you know what I mean you know what I mean you're just you're just hanging me out to dry and I am not. [TS]
01:18:32 ◼ ► but let's move past that because we will get derailed. But I am I am not trying to confuse you. [TS]
01:18:36 ◼ ► I am genuinely like some kind of weird recursion here in your expectations that I can't quite on the Apple Watch was [TS]
01:18:50 ◼ ► Right's right and that is what I expected the case today. So why did you try on for yourself. I tried a bunch of them. [TS]
01:18:58 ◼ ► Lots and lots of different sizes and different bands and the first thing I thought was Let's not talk about the watch. [TS]
01:19:05 ◼ ► So for a minute let's talk about the bands really it's all about the bands as they go into the shop. [TS]
01:19:14 ◼ ► Yes some of the things I thought about the bands I was I was impressed by the ability to change links so easily which [TS]
01:19:23 ◼ ► I was very impressed with the mechanism whereby you can change the bands themselves on the watch [TS]
01:19:34 ◼ ► and a lot of them felt very pleasurable on the hand especially those kind of leathery ones they felt nice I didn't like [TS]
01:19:46 ◼ ► I don't know why anyone will get that back anyway but some people like it so that one seems to be a very divisive one. [TS]
01:19:53 ◼ ► Yeah I would say that one definitely very divisive because I've had the same conversation with a few people where to me. [TS]
01:20:05 ◼ ► And when I first heard I was surprised I was shocked that anybody could possibly disagree [TS]
01:20:10 ◼ ► but this is this is where fashion is just a strange thing everybody has very personal reactions to different kinds of [TS]
01:20:18 ◼ ► bands and I've heard people say things about the bands that I like or I think or how could you possibly think that. [TS]
01:20:26 ◼ ► but I would bet the mill in these one is top on the people disagree in wildly different directions about it. [TS]
01:20:37 ◼ ► Some of them like I thought some of the Metrolink ones and the metal ones I would like and then [TS]
01:20:41 ◼ ► when I put them on my hand I didn't like so much if I was going to get one I would probably get a live band with the [TS]
01:20:50 ◼ ► traditional buckle Funnily enough that's that's the one I felt that I could see that working for you [TS]
01:20:55 ◼ ► and I didn't expect that to be the case so I thought because you know I've got my my watch it's got like a steel band [TS]
01:21:00 ◼ ► like I wear a silvery still bad but I didn't like had I looked in the Apple Watch so much. [TS]
01:21:05 ◼ ► I still don't like how it looks as much as a normal watch that Qantas is where look I didn't use a anough to give you a [TS]
01:21:23 ◼ ► Which one did the Mrs like she got to watch as she she found it she said she doesn't want to get one either [TS]
01:21:35 ◼ ► And then like I said she knows nothing about them about what they're made of or the pricing structure [TS]
01:21:41 ◼ ► And after looking at them all she's like oh can I try one of those Goldy colored ones on [TS]
01:21:47 ◼ ► They're the one I quite like the look of that one so I think I probably get that one and then I had I was [TS]
01:21:52 ◼ ► and she was I How much is that one and then the guy said you know all these thousands upon thousands [TS]
01:21:56 ◼ ► and she was like Are you joking. Yeah they started twelve. Thousand Pounds in the U.K. [TS]
01:22:05 ◼ ► You know she's a smart woman so she was like OK well of course she didn't realize they were made of actual gold she [TS]
01:22:12 ◼ ► and it does raise an interesting question that if you don't like sue over because the jury [TS]
01:22:16 ◼ ► and you like Goldy colour jury like like some people are in camps over a camp goat and all. [TS]
01:22:24 ◼ ► and there's no watch for them because you can't wear a silver watch if you go jury no go jury because it clashes so [TS]
01:22:34 ◼ ► and they are they're like partly surprised there was no goatee colored one that is affordable. [TS]
01:22:39 ◼ ► But I see why there's not. Yeah you can see why they can't have a sports watch that is also gold. [TS]
01:22:48 ◼ ► and how can you prove you're a rich person if other people can have cheap gold colored ones. [TS]
01:22:53 ◼ ► So anyway I went and looked at them and I've got to look at them since again in the shop [TS]
01:22:57 ◼ ► and had a little touch on a play in which your media Speedmaster is going to live live indefinitely on your wrist as a [TS]
01:23:04 ◼ ► plan. I love it more every day. I am genuinely relieved to hear that I'm genuinely relieved to hear that. [TS]
01:23:13 ◼ ► So is there anything else you want to or if I told you enough without notes my interview skills are lacking [TS]
01:23:22 ◼ ► I'm not surprised about the classic one feel like you know I could definitely see that working as a as a look for you. [TS]
01:23:27 ◼ ► Most of the class was a very clever they have done very well with a lot of the engineering nominees they have they have [TS]
01:23:36 ◼ ► but I did like just the traditional looking one I will say one other thing about that I think about the watch before [TS]
01:23:52 ◼ ► and that is having the watch face shows like a pretend mechanical watch on this crane. [TS]
01:24:02 ◼ ► and it's like a pretend watch rendered on the rendered on the watch I don't see the point of that I think it's [TS]
01:24:10 ◼ ► and I think it's really pointless and a little bit silly. Like I always say if you're going to be a bear be a grizzly. [TS]
01:24:17 ◼ ► If you're going to have this electronic high tech watch don't have a rendering. Pretend old fashioned watch faces on. [TS]
01:24:24 ◼ ► That seems really silly to me. That's the equivalent of having a fireplace or an aquarium on your T.V. [TS]
01:24:31 ◼ ► If you want an aquarium get an aquarium if you want to have a fireplace get a fireplace if you want to have light hands [TS]
01:24:39 ◼ ► and the old fashioned watch can now fashion watch if you want to move with the times and get something high tech [TS]
01:24:45 ◼ ► and take the next step and maybe it's the way of the future. Do that but take advantage of the technology. [TS]
01:24:52 ◼ ► Take advantage of the things a screen can do like you don't have electronic versions of a rotary dial on your phone [TS]
01:25:03 ◼ ► and I think people having this like old fashion if they want that kind of you know Speedmaster chronograph you look on [TS]
01:25:17 ◼ ► but didn't you record a Yule log on one of your channels for people to play on their computers at Christmas. [TS]
01:25:24 ◼ ► Yeah and I did that because I was I was invited to do it and I was OK but but oh but oh [TS]
01:25:32 ◼ ► but I did that with like that the twist of being able to like throw dangerous chemicals onto it [TS]
01:25:38 ◼ ► and things like that I still a Christian does you a lot of people would be playing on their computers a Christmas I [TS]
01:25:45 ◼ ► but I don't think people having the chronographs on their watch doing it in a kind of ironic funny way I mean those [TS]
01:25:52 ◼ ► videos will look almost a spoof of Eulo videos in the same way that like my calculator and books. [TS]
01:26:00 ◼ ► The videos are a spoof of unboxing videos I feel like my you look pretty it was like a parody of the fact people do [TS]
01:26:07 ◼ ► that whereas I don't think people who are wearing these pretend chronographs on their I watch like parodying anything I [TS]
01:26:16 ◼ ► and I'm just not on board with it I think if you're going to have an apple watch you know utilized to screen the people [TS]
01:26:25 ◼ ► and then next appointment stuff like OK it's not for me but I'm on board with that lies in the technology. [TS]
01:26:34 ◼ ► and all that sort of thing which you know you have hands on a clock because of the technology necessitates the Weight [TS]
01:26:41 ◼ ► Watchers and the mechanism or watches work necessitates that it's no longer necessary on a on of it on a computer [TS]
01:26:49 ◼ ► and it just feels a bit silly to me it feels like it feels like having a you know you don't have more than you probably [TS]
01:26:57 ◼ ► do actually but I wouldn't have a modern grandfather clock which instead of a grandfather. [TS]
01:27:01 ◼ ► It has a screen on there that has like a pretend pendulums swinging and pretend Yeah yeah that feels stupid to me [TS]
01:27:09 ◼ ► but to me and it feels a bit the same way with the watch I feel like you know I don't have an old fashion [TS]
01:27:15 ◼ ► and I know there's a bit more nuance to the discussion and I've read a little bit about what [TS]
01:27:19 ◼ ► and I've heard what John Gruber said about on his podcast and what he's written about it [TS]
01:27:27 ◼ ► I missed I missed your Twitter interaction so unlucky I'm not sure what his his Are you thinking. [TS]
01:27:33 ◼ ► So so for me I am very aware of time as existing in this circle that goes round and round. [TS]
01:27:45 ◼ ► and he doesn't want to unlearn that which I don't agree with I think you can and then a very quickly [TS]
01:27:49 ◼ ► and just so you're in the picture the other thing he says is he thinks the watch isn't too sort of skeuomorphic a [TS]
01:27:55 ◼ ► heavyset like he says you know it's not like they're rendering shadows and things like that. [TS]
01:28:03 ◼ ► I mean I don't know the skew morphism argue that argument has never been interesting to me like there's a look at it as [TS]
01:28:09 ◼ ► another I don't really that's that's not I only care about skew morphism once you talk about skew morphism enforcing [TS]
01:28:16 ◼ ► limitations as famously the apple podcast did when it was pretending to be a reel to reel tape player [TS]
01:28:22 ◼ ► and allowed you to do basically nothing because they wanted to preserve the metaphor that looks like a reel to reel [TS]
01:28:31 ◼ ► or the thing that I find most frustrating is on the kind of skew morphism on digital calendars where you can only [TS]
01:28:38 ◼ ► scroll a month at a time and so you have to flip back and forth between two virtual pages. [TS]
01:28:46 ◼ ► and the beginning of the next month they know you can make is a continuous scroll. [TS]
01:28:50 ◼ ► And so that's why I like that's the kind of skew morphism that I find really frustrating there's no reason for the [TS]
01:28:54 ◼ ► month to exist as a page on a computer but the way you know the way things look with shadows [TS]
01:29:01 ◼ ► OK I am aware that for me like a digital readout I have always found somehow harder to read. [TS]
01:29:08 ◼ ► There's something about it being overly precise that bothers me and some people have noticed [TS]
01:29:14 ◼ ► when I take screenshots on occasion of my computer I don't have a normal clock in the upper right hand corner. [TS]
01:29:21 ◼ ► I have something that's called a fuzzy clock where normally it would display the digits. [TS]
01:29:55 ◼ ► and there's something about the I can't deal with the precision of the minute it's to pursue. [TS]
01:30:00 ◼ ► As I don't need to know it and it's almost like it somehow that extra precision slows me down [TS]
01:30:05 ◼ ► and so that's why I really do like circular clock faces as well because you can look at it like I have a sense of the [TS]
01:30:24 ◼ ► I don't I don't I would say it causes stress I'm just aware that there's something about looking at digital number [TS]
01:30:30 ◼ ► clock that is fractionally slower every time I do it which makes no sense because it's should be more immediately [TS]
01:30:39 ◼ ► and it's probably just because I grew up with circular watches looking at circular clocks in school [TS]
01:30:44 ◼ ► and watching them go round and round you know praying for the end of the day and knowing the shape of the clock [TS]
01:30:50 ◼ ► when you could finally be free and go home and not have to do any of this nonsense anymore. [TS]
01:30:54 ◼ ► So if you'd grown up with clocks which showed like the face of a bear when it was three o'clock [TS]
01:31:01 ◼ ► and yeah I'm sure I'd be thinking oh it's almost bear oclock now thank God you know now I would keep that up. [TS]
01:31:10 ◼ ► Yeah I said yeah OK I mean that's kind of that's kind of the Graybar argument too I think to some it's just it's just [TS]
01:31:25 ◼ ► and I think that's a behavior that could be pretty easily on land I grew up using a rotary phone [TS]
01:31:30 ◼ ► and dialing phone numbers by putting my finger in the three and then moving my finger down to the nine [TS]
01:31:41 ◼ ► and I think making the watch try to be like these old fashioned watches is just I think it's not the way to go you know [TS]
01:31:50 ◼ ► so the reason this is particularly funny is because right on my watch right now I actually happen to be using the [TS]
01:32:02 ◼ ► and I don't I don't actually normally use the chronograph I don't like the way it looks [TS]
01:32:07 ◼ ► but I thought Ooh let me switch over to this and let me just use it for timing the podcast [TS]
01:32:12 ◼ ► and tell me afterwards tell me your thoughts on it is we are in in one hour thirty two minutes seventeen seconds right [TS]
01:32:18 ◼ ► now so I have to give the other side to give first impressions because my watch arrived just a little bit over twenty [TS]
01:32:26 ◼ ► four hours ago so I have had kind of a day and a half with it. And yes great great did not tell me everyone. [TS]
01:32:34 ◼ ► OK OK OK Listen yesterday we were just trying to coordinate the time to to get this [TS]
01:32:40 ◼ ► and who was not replying to my text messages you I literally had no time except minutes before this podcast in which to [TS]
01:32:47 ◼ ► possibly tell you that I had got an apple I could have said that you want to know if what you do know is I was getting [TS]
01:32:52 ◼ ► them while you were busy offline I sent text messages to two different addresses I sent an e-mail I didn't get a [TS]
01:33:00 ◼ ► but I didn't know where you were I was going to randomly start some conversation Hey let's talk about my new Apple [TS]
01:33:04 ◼ ► Watch maybe you're busy dealing with some problem I have no idea if I got an apple watch [TS]
01:33:08 ◼ ► or text you straight away I'd say because you're like my apple watch my so I'd be like Great guess what I'm wearing [TS]
01:33:14 ◼ ► We learn he literally had no time in which to possibly discuss this until this podcast not trade anyway then you know [TS]
01:33:21 ◼ ► it is a one hundred percent true I will not let you deceive our listeners in this manner. [TS]
01:33:29 ◼ ► I'm just trying to scare us I'm just saying tell me you've got it. I told you right before we started to record. [TS]
01:33:36 ◼ ► No no you said you don't have a watch and then I said yes I do and showed it to you I can I have I have the recording. [TS]
01:33:45 ◼ ► Trust me they don't have the recording so the band I saw the band and thought it looked different. [TS]
01:33:52 ◼ ► but I told you first I swear this is the part I'm either prove No you made the video to do it justice because I saw the [TS]
01:33:58 ◼ ► band on your hands. I thought it didn't look like your watching on what's she wearing. Now that I don't think of that. [TS]
01:34:04 ◼ ► But anyway this is all this is all a sideshow of us just all of us just bickering like old ladies. [TS]
01:34:10 ◼ ► Let's go clothes shopping I would love to not go clothes shopping with you Brady that would never happen. [TS]
01:34:16 ◼ ► Tell me about your first twenty four hours with the watch because you're not going to Cape and all that sort of stuff. [TS]
01:34:21 ◼ ► When I said I was relieved before that you were like in your Omega Speedmaster more and more. [TS]
01:34:25 ◼ ► My first twenty four hours with the watch definitely convinced me that that you should never have one of these. [TS]
01:34:34 ◼ ► and it is so easy to make it be just this new notification addiction machine so I thought Oh God I hope Brady never [TS]
01:34:42 ◼ ► gets one because he will be even more consumed by beeps and buzzers and distractions [TS]
01:34:48 ◼ ► and shiny things than he already is. So I'm very very happy you're with your media Speedmaster. [TS]
01:35:00 ◼ ► but I don't get notifications for him I was the only time my phone ever make noise is if I get a text message [TS]
01:35:13 ◼ ► but yeah I do understand I'm just talking about in general your distracted nature yet my problem is I take out of my [TS]
01:35:24 ◼ ► and looking here to anybody who either has just gotten an apple watch or his or will be getting one very soon. [TS]
01:35:31 ◼ ► I think the way to go into this is to almost pretend that additional apps don't exist [TS]
01:35:45 ◼ ► I'm going to select one that I like and this watch happens to be able to do a few additional very useful things. [TS]
01:36:00 ◼ ► Watch are trying to treat it as though it's a tiny iphone and it is so clearly not a tiny iphone but in the stores [TS]
01:36:12 ◼ ► and with a bunch of other people everybody is all about the apps they're thinking oh what are the apps that can be on [TS]
01:36:25 ◼ ► and the best I can come up with is that the Apple Watch my first impression anyway is this might be one of the most low [TS]
01:36:46 ◼ ► and it's not trying to do a whole bunch of stuff that a way an i Phone Is it really feels like hey I'm a watch that is [TS]
01:36:57 ◼ ► but I'm not trying to take over your whole life so low key is the best way that I can think of it [TS]
01:37:04 ◼ ► I don't think about all the apps people just think about it as a watch that happens to do some additional things [TS]
01:37:10 ◼ ► pretend like those apps aren't even there. I think you have a much better experience with a kind of straight away. [TS]
01:37:22 ◼ ► If it wasn't for who you are for like your previous watches very very pretty you know very beautiful very a very [TS]
01:37:33 ◼ ► It was it was a it was a statement you were making about your taste and things like that. [TS]
01:37:43 ◼ ► or have you compromised do you think what you're wearing on your wrist now is less beautiful [TS]
01:37:54 ◼ ► OK Well this is a terribly unfair question at the moment because I ordered to watch. [TS]
01:38:04 ◼ ► So I actually have one that is basically my trial watch see if it's something that I'm going to keep. [TS]
01:38:10 ◼ ► So right now on my wrist I am wearing the black aluminum sports watch which I think is a pretty good looking [TS]
01:38:20 ◼ ► but it is it is nowhere near the piece of jewelry of the watch that I am actually really have my heart set on is the [TS]
01:38:29 ◼ ► black link one that is not arriving until next year or so. According to delivery estimates. [TS]
01:38:40 ◼ ► and that's the one that I think would look the best although I still haven't been able to try that on because the [TS]
01:38:48 ◼ ► I keep checking in every once in a while with Oxford Street store here about how do you guys have the black link [TS]
01:38:57 ◼ ► and so that's why I really think that one might not be shipping for forever which is why I put in the order for the [TS]
01:39:05 ◼ ► and to get some sense of Is this a thing worth waiting for is a thing that I want to really have [TS]
01:39:26 ◼ ► and if you're if you're using so few of the apps you are talking just a little notifications [TS]
01:39:30 ◼ ► and I guess you know this is exactly how I feel things are useful is that if it can do a couple things well I'm sold [TS]
01:39:40 ◼ ► and the thing that the Apple Watch does really well are these little tap notifications where it feels like it's tapping [TS]
01:40:05 ◼ ► and one of which is really great is timers so I use timers a lot when I work I have forty minute timers [TS]
01:40:15 ◼ ► and twenty minute timers that I'm constantly setting for different sorts of tasks and I want to know [TS]
01:40:19 ◼ ► when those have run down and to have the want to do this little tap tap tap thing when the timer has run down. [TS]
01:40:27 ◼ ► It's hard to describe how helpful that is when I'm working because it's something that I'm aware of [TS]
01:40:32 ◼ ► but I can ignore in a way that I could never ignore a vibrating phone or an audio alarm for the timer being over. [TS]
01:40:50 ◼ ► or do you thing that I have to deal with like the i Phone six plus and it's huge vibration motor on the desk [TS]
01:40:56 ◼ ► or anything so I absolutely love this as a little feature and even if it was just a watch. [TS]
01:41:03 ◼ ► But additionally did these silent timers I'd be I'd be totally sold. But there are. [TS]
01:41:07 ◼ ► I think I've been playing around with the health features which are really nice I did my exercise at the gym today with [TS]
01:41:14 ◼ ► and all that stuff I mean this this kind of thing you need to use over over a longer period of time. [TS]
01:41:22 ◼ ► and I also did play around with the walking directions where it taps you on the wrist for when you want to turn left [TS]
01:41:28 ◼ ► when you want to turn right which if you go back to one of our earlier podcast was one of the things I guessed I would [TS]
01:41:41 ◼ ► and have it just tap my wrist for the turns is beautiful it's absolutely beautiful. [TS]
01:41:49 ◼ ► and kind of not have to think about it I don't have Siri interrupting me in my ear with audio directions if I'm trying [TS]
01:41:55 ◼ ► to listen to a podcast at the same time which is hugely frustrating in a spot. Part because Siri is way too chatty. [TS]
01:42:03 ◼ ► So I'm I'm really liking that as well. And yeah it's it's very nice. I am pretty I'm pretty happy with it. [TS]
01:42:16 ◼ ► Someone makes nice at least I do make and doing so more convinced terrible for notification junkies not for Brady. [TS]
01:42:24 ◼ ► Oh my mother concerned that the other concern that I had was I was worried about glancing at the time that it might not [TS]
01:42:32 ◼ ► when you turn it up so far I haven't even haven't even noticed some things about that thing that comes into my head [TS]
01:42:38 ◼ ► and I this is sort of a something I have done about before but I still feel a bit sad about it because to me watches [TS]
01:42:50 ◼ ► and part of human heritage I didn't feel like it was a big sacrifice to have a watch on your hands a little nod to that [TS]
01:42:58 ◼ ► and I feel like I feel like we've lost that to functionality it's a bit like this is an extreme example [TS]
01:43:05 ◼ ► but it's a bit like saying well let's knock down the Coliseum because well the Coliseum is old [TS]
01:43:12 ◼ ► and not useful for anything and yet we could put a shopping center there or a cinema or on housing [TS]
01:43:17 ◼ ► or things that people can actually use every minute of their life as opposed to just a relic from the past that we look [TS]
01:43:24 ◼ ► at and I feel like we're taking the little coliseums of a hand a little that little connection with the past [TS]
01:43:36 ◼ ► and we didn't need to do that we already have lots of other things that do it so I feel a bit sad I feel like we're [TS]
01:43:45 ◼ ► Well you know you don't have to and you're going to keep wearing your make a Speedmaster of course. [TS]
01:43:49 ◼ ► Let me let me give you a I just I was just thinking of trying to explain why this is different [TS]
01:43:54 ◼ ► and so here's a really good example that just happened. So my wife and I before the podcast. [TS]
01:44:00 ◼ ► We're just having dinner and I know that you are on a timetable for when we can record this today. [TS]
01:44:16 ◼ ► And so while my wife and I were having dinner she was just telling me a story about what was going on in her day. [TS]
01:44:22 ◼ ► And while she's telling me the story the alarm goes off on my watch. Now I have it set to silent. [TS]
01:44:31 ◼ ► Yeah and the little moment is she can't hear my alarm. She has no idea that the alarm just went off. [TS]
01:44:48 ◼ ► and then part the conversation at a moment that felt like it was a better moment to say OK you know now I've got to go. [TS]
01:45:01 ◼ ► and I think that is really valuable to me to be able to be notified of something without disturbing the people around [TS]
01:45:12 ◼ ► Now lots of people will believe sounds on the phone in your pocket would have done that the phone the phone wouldn't do [TS]
01:45:17 ◼ ► that because also a day that you know perfectly well you're sitting with someone everyone can hear [TS]
01:45:21 ◼ ► when your phone is vibrating anyway. Yeah you know that Brady era there would not necessarily be. [TS]
01:45:29 ◼ ► but you're going to granted to me that lots of times you're sitting there is not like a secret that your phone is [TS]
01:45:41 ◼ ► but it isn't under a lot of so I know I'm with people I can hear when their phone vibrates. It's no surprise. [TS]
01:45:48 ◼ ► So that little kind of interaction was something that I thought was was was very nice to be able to do in a different [TS]
01:46:00 ◼ ► Interrupted the person who I am talking with and he says it was just a very small moment [TS]
01:46:09 ◼ ► I mean there's a couple other things that have been very nice just using it in the past day just in the gym being able [TS]
01:46:20 ◼ ► and out of my pocket all the time like I just made exercising at the gym a little bit easier. [TS]
01:46:25 ◼ ► And these little things for me really add up like who can we make this interaction a little bit smoother. [TS]
01:46:35 ◼ ► You're going to think I'm crazy for saying this but when you told me that story about talking to your wife [TS]
01:46:55 ◼ ► and like managing me I would almost rather the transparency of your phone going paying [TS]
01:47:04 ◼ ► I always find a little bit deceptive that everyone's going around getting these secret little messages into their wrist. [TS]
01:47:15 ◼ ► I love how you already positing a world where everybody is already managing you with their secret watches. [TS]
01:47:22 ◼ ► First of all I can guarantee you that not very many people will set the watch the way I do to have it completely silent. [TS]
01:47:28 ◼ ► I bet almost everybody will leave all the little audio notifications on which I think is entirely the wrong way to do [TS]
01:47:39 ◼ ► and I am aware that with the watch I'm already turning down some of the limited notifications that I have on the phone [TS]
01:47:45 ◼ ► because the one thing that I don't like is at least in the current version of the software there isn't quite enough [TS]
01:47:51 ◼ ► control over how you want notifications to be distributed between the phone and the watch. [TS]
01:47:58 ◼ ► It's a bit like oh the phone either. Next what the watch does or the phone doesn't. [TS]
01:48:05 ◼ ► but the interesting the interesting trick if anyone is playing around with the watch that I have found so far. [TS]
01:48:10 ◼ ► If you're a person like me who has very few notifications is to not have the watch mirror the phone in do not disturb [TS]
01:48:19 ◼ ► What this means is that notifications that would normally be blocked by your phone while your phone is in do not [TS]
01:48:25 ◼ ► disturb mode can still go to your watch and there are a couple of situations where this is this is proving useful [TS]
01:48:33 ◼ ► but they do need to add more more settings for precisely how notifications are controlled. [TS]
01:48:43 ◼ ► I'll be well I will be curious to ask your wife or hear what your wife's reaction is [TS]
01:48:52 ◼ ► and then you got the secret tap she didn't know about and you like allowed her to finish a story. [TS]
01:48:58 ◼ ► But the whole time you knew you knew you now had something to say but you were just keeping it to yourself [TS]
01:49:04 ◼ ► and waiting for her to finish a story. I'll be curious to hear what she says how she feels about that. [TS]
01:49:12 ◼ ► But like I wouldn't like I wouldn't like I would prefer that I just knew that he just got a notification [TS]
01:49:20 ◼ ► I'd want to know what's affecting you and not have secret things coming in that are affecting it in ways I don't know. [TS]
01:49:26 ◼ ► I can say very briefly on the flip side because my wife got her watch on the day of launch so she's had a little bit [TS]
01:49:34 ◼ ► One thing that I noticed right away is she has messages go to her watch was the first night we were just sitting around [TS]
01:49:45 ◼ ► and I have to say I really like the fact that she could do exactly what she did which was a couple of times. [TS]
01:50:00 ◼ ► Didn't need to be replied to and then just put her wrist down and we continued talking [TS]
01:50:04 ◼ ► and doing whatever we were doing that it sounds dumb but that's a million times less destructive than [TS]
01:50:11 ◼ ► when she would have to pick up her phone and kind of hold her phone in between us and take a look at it [TS]
01:50:17 ◼ ► and then put the phone down and the phone is now on the table in between the two of us. [TS]
01:50:25 ◼ ► but I'm telling you it's a huge difference in someone being able to just quickly look at a thing versus bringing out an [TS]
01:50:34 ◼ ► object to physically demonstrate that they are checking the thing in front of you or potentially unlocking their phone. [TS]
01:50:55 ◼ ► when she would check a message that I might otherwise be in certain circumstances. [TS]
01:51:04 ◼ ► Well I'm happy that I'm actually a bit disappointed that you're happy I was secretly hoping that you'd get it [TS]
01:51:10 ◼ ► and tell me that it's not that great and you'd return. But I knew that wasn't what was going to happen. [TS]
01:51:16 ◼ ► They did love it and get it. I should be happy for you. I'm just being grouchy old man. [TS]
01:51:25 ◼ ► It's not even that I'm happy with it it just feels that it's almost like it is integrated so fast into normalcy it is [TS]
01:51:32 ◼ ► surprising and that's why I use the word Low key I can't I really can't think of any kind of analogy for it [TS]
01:51:40 ◼ ► but it's almost like I don't know. Like buying like buying a really good coffee cup. [TS]
01:51:53 ◼ ► Well no it's a little better but you immediately find yourself using it all the time [TS]
01:52:02 ◼ ► You're used to using a coffee cup all the time so it just like slides right in there's no getting used to it at all. [TS]
01:52:12 ◼ ► Or just you know getting in getting a new pair of shoes that's very comfortable you don't need to really learn how to [TS]
01:52:21 ◼ ► I don't really see so far I haven't really been using the third party apps at all it's just a watch in the way that a [TS]
01:52:29 ◼ ► There's a couple of buttons on the edges that I can press to get some additional information [TS]
01:52:35 ◼ ► and it also silently notifies me about things that I have chosen for it to notify me. And it's it's it's a big deal. [TS]
01:52:43 ◼ ► I actually already replied to you on the watch once today with one of those messages that you are sending me before [TS]
01:52:49 ◼ ► This was during that time when you couldn't contact me and couldn't tell me you had a watch. [TS]
01:52:54 ◼ ► Yeah this was fifteen minutes before the show and we were instant messaging. Exactly right. [TS]
01:53:01 ◼ ► OK Well I don't know if I can send you flowers from the watch I think it's just one of the faces so I don't think those [TS]
01:53:06 ◼ ► are as good. I've been sitting on this really hard flat chair for about two hours now and I've got a really sore back. [TS]
01:53:14 ◼ ► I'm sure listeners want to know. I'm just saying maybe we should stop. Let's stop. Let's stop. [TS]
01:53:24 ◼ ► He's totally lying there's nothing else that I should not use I would say there are no there are two more items here [TS]
01:53:31 ◼ ► I won't say what they are because you get all upset because you don't want people to know what we're going to discuss [TS]
01:53:35 ◼ ► next time but you say them you say them but we'll look at the same document. I do I do see them both. [TS]