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H.I. #31: An Enigma Wrapped in an Egg McMuffin


00:00:00   I just want to apologize to everyone in advance if you hear any leaking in the background that is my dog making [TS]

00:00:06   and has not made the king myself I have a strict policy of not looking myself during the podcast. [TS]

00:00:13   You're not going to believe what I have today. What are you going to lean over and pick up a baseball bat. [TS]

00:00:18   Because my tiny sure [TS]

00:00:22   but how much is the smallest creature in the world as you know is snoring so loudly that I'm worried it's going to ruin [TS]

00:00:29   a recording I can't reach where I am so I'm going to get him a baseball bat so I can just occasionally prod her [TS]

00:00:36   when her snores get to that is that code that is cool because I did hear a strange sound on this [TS]

00:00:43   and that I assume it was the wind howling by your office. [TS]

00:00:49   No it's not not just to be clear I'm not hitting a child with a baseball bat. [TS]

00:00:54   I'm just going to gently nudge you hitting her with a baseball that night. [TS]

00:00:57   That's not happening but hang on I'm going to get it. All right. You're embarrassing me. [TS]

00:01:07   Now I can reach out and just give her a little little love tap on the bottom so she knows that I'm on the case. [TS]

00:01:14   What conclusion is she going to draw from being dumped with your baseball bat I think I was going to wake her up. [TS]

00:01:19   Yeah that's well then she'll stop snoring. [TS]

00:01:26   When his loud caveman snores in the bedroom she just hits you with a baseball bat and you stop. [TS]

00:01:30   She'd love to be that one we got next. [TS]

00:01:33   We actually have some indirect follow up from Hank Green who we mentioned he interviewed the president of the United [TS]

00:01:40   States. Yes yes. Of the United States. [TS]

00:01:43   I made an offhand remark [TS]

00:01:44   when we were talking about this how I would not want to use the historical desk in the Oval Office that I would find [TS]

00:01:51   that stressful and unpleasant and that would be one of my first things is to bring in a new desk and Hank tweeted us [TS]

00:01:56   and said that there is a study. Off of the Oval Office that the president often uses So that's famous. [TS]

00:02:04   That's where Bill Clinton got up to his shenanigans with Monica Lewinsky. [TS]

00:02:08   I never knew this thing existed I never this never even crossed my mind and I knew that. [TS]

00:02:14   Well they're really sorry that I did not know about this I thought this was I felt like this is an interesting piece of [TS]

00:02:19   trivia. [TS]

00:02:19   I've not seen a picture of it if you go to that link if you click that link in the show notes there are a bunch there [TS]

00:02:26   are not adequate pictures I want to I want to like a layout a floor layout it's very hard to get a sense of these [TS]

00:02:31   places unless I can see a floor plan but there are just a couple of pictures of presidents current [TS]

00:02:37   and past in the study that's off on the side it looks like it's a very tiny apartment with a little kitchen [TS]

00:02:43   and a little office. It looks like the crummiest living room ever my office is not set in that room. [TS]

00:02:48   This looks like the worst motel in the world. Yeah. [TS]

00:02:51   For the President's office it just looks terrible if that's actually where the president spends a lot of their time [TS]

00:02:58   working that is totally the full around with the Internet I mean I guess so apparently you know the news about it. [TS]

00:03:04   We'll put it in the show notes people can take a look. It is shockingly unimpressive. [TS]

00:03:09   The president's study which is off of the Oval Office. [TS]

00:03:12   But thanks to Hank Green I learned that a new fact but you you already know this because you're just great I guess. [TS]

00:03:19   That office in the West Wing actually the T.V. Show. [TS]

00:03:22   That's interesting I know the West Wing in the West Wing isn't the West Wing [TS]

00:03:27   but yeah the West Wing wasn't it wasn't real if that's what you're saying. [TS]

00:03:31   No I've also liked the layout was different to the actual West Wing because you can look on the Internet [TS]

00:03:35   and look at maps that compare the T.V. Show West Wing with the real West Wing they have a different fire. [TS]

00:03:41   I'm fascinated by the White House in the US presidents they could you know apparently stuff like this I could look at [TS]

00:03:46   all day and find it really interesting. [TS]

00:03:49   Do you have any good White House trivia facts or I don't know I haven't really prepared for. [TS]

00:03:53   So after if we don't prepare for this park assets I was curious off the top of your head if there's anything that you [TS]

00:03:58   know now. In spring to mind. [TS]

00:04:01   Nothing's going to my I just love looking at pictures like you know pictures like this and stuff. [TS]

00:04:05   You must know if you look at the White House stuff [TS]

00:04:07   but the the picture that I love is the one of the White House having been gutted on the inside you know this picture is [TS]

00:04:14   ringing a bell [TS]

00:04:15   but it's not leaking into my head I have read about you know because I can't resist reading about what President Bush [TS]

00:04:21   tried to change what do you want to message. OK There we go. Sent on my message. [TS]

00:04:27   This picture I think is amazing they literally gutted the entire interior of the White House they only left the facade [TS]

00:04:34   of the exterior [TS]

00:04:36   and they re did absolutely everything in the middle so you think of the White House so there's a story building it's [TS]

00:04:41   been around forever. [TS]

00:04:42   Well the shell of it has been around forever [TS]

00:04:45   but the actual inside is on a historical scale relatively new that picture is awesome [TS]

00:04:51   and that picture is awesome that would be a cool picture to post and just say can you guess where this is [TS]

00:04:55   and I bet no one would say in the White House except you and everyone who is saying it so this doesn't really use you. [TS]

00:05:02   I'm disappointed that your obsession with the White House to not know that all of it is new from the administration. [TS]

00:05:08   Well I'm more of a West Wing kind of guy was a residence and I like to watch [TS]

00:05:14   and where the action is happening you know you can keep your posy resident stuffy so can I just say that this desk [TS]

00:05:20   thing I was thinking a bit about. Or he's going to get a baseball bat he's the king. It's like that. [TS]

00:05:30   About this desk thing yeah I don't agree with your policy of not using it because like if you are the president you [TS]

00:05:38   become part of the history of that desk and you're using it is part of the good goodness of it [TS]

00:05:43   and like you know if you spill your coffee on or scratch it [TS]

00:05:46   or whatever you know you're adding to a story like you know if you become president you're so awesome that you should [TS]

00:05:53   be using that desk and adding to it or some history. [TS]

00:05:55   You shouldn't feel like some visitor who is not allowed to touch it because the other presidents before you. [TS]

00:06:00   More important and your lack of you know and nobody you know the president man. Put your feet up on that thing. [TS]

00:06:06   Scratch or add to it. Make your mark. [TS]

00:06:10   I guess I would be OK with that if there must be some kind of archivist [TS]

00:06:14   or something who handles all these objects the White House that has to be somebodies job like the people who are in [TS]

00:06:19   charge of all of the special objects down in Alabama when we went there and saw the at the Space Center. [TS]

00:06:25   So the summit at the White House has to be in charge of these things I would have to get the permission of that person [TS]

00:06:31   for them to say listen it would be OK if not on purpose not on purpose but just through accident or carelessness. [TS]

00:06:39   Totally trashed this desk just made it unusable for the next president is that would that be fine with you and if [TS]

00:06:48   and of course they would look at me with with a horrified face [TS]

00:06:51   and say no that would not be OK if you were the last president to use this desk. [TS]

00:06:56   Then I feel like I couldn't I couldn't use it. You're not going to what are you going to totally trash it. [TS]

00:07:01   Obviously you know going to go in there with an axe and smash it to places the worse you can to spill something on it. [TS]

00:07:05   That's not going to trash and remember you're the president so [TS]

00:07:08   when you go down to this person in the archive his underling he's got this you know job you're walking in as the newly [TS]

00:07:15   elected president. [TS]

00:07:16   You all that you were the one calling the shots in these matters is a bit like Star Trek [TS]

00:07:20   and the doctor having authority over the captain in some situations I think whoever is in charge of the historical [TS]

00:07:26   objects at the White House should have authority over the president in the preservation of some of those objects. [TS]

00:07:31   The president shouldn't just be able to say I want to throw out all this stuff. [TS]

00:07:34   Let's I'm going to return that George was right about exactly or I'm going to burn it because I'm the president. [TS]

00:07:43   I just I just want to I want to feel the exhilaration of just being able to destroy it just because I'm going to burn [TS]

00:07:49   only because of all previous I think the picture here though I have. [TS]

00:07:55   So so I think that the archivist should have authority in these men. [TS]

00:08:00   So in this one of the succession the power thing you know president vice president going down the list the person who [TS]

00:08:06   looks out of the paintings actually at the top of that list. With regard to the paintings Yes. [TS]

00:08:12   That person cannot be overruled. They can launch nuclear missiles or anything. [TS]

00:08:17   No they can't they can they get they can only preserve historical nuclear missiles. [TS]

00:08:22   I guess I don't know yet how that would work. [TS]

00:08:24   I just I feel like I would once I would want freedom to not have to worry in the slightest to never even have to be [TS]

00:08:31   concerned the tiniest bit about what's happening to this desk if I'm accidently scratching it up [TS]

00:08:37   or whatever I just I don't want to have to have that on my mind at all. [TS]

00:08:41   Gray if you were ever in charge of running the entire United States of America I hope that the condition of the desk is [TS]

00:08:48   not your number one priority than actually. [TS]

00:08:50   Well if I'm working at that desk the desk that I'm working at would be the number one priority because everything else [TS]

00:08:55   would flow from the desk in the decisions that are made there. [TS]

00:08:58   This is the other problem I have with the presidential desk I don't think it looks very comfortable very usable. [TS]

00:09:03   It looks a little small. Looks good. We put a picture of it right now. [TS]

00:09:07   This was a cold the rest of resolute desk that sounds right. [TS]

00:09:12   Resolute Desk Gray Well you look it up I'm going to evict Audrey because she's making so much noise you can hide [TS]

00:09:17   and then I did just hear that that was quite That was quite nice going. She's gone. Thank you. [TS]

00:09:22   Can one thing where you know you can take some people. Come on back. Did you chase them out with baseball bats. [TS]

00:09:31   No I never could get was I think what I would tell them if you found that desk what's going on I was just pulling up [TS]

00:09:36   here I did find the desk is bigger than I was thinking it was bigger than I was thinking it was [TS]

00:09:40   but I'm picky about this kind of stuff. As for they you know does it. OK just teasing me but it's important. [TS]

00:09:48   Like the surface of the desk matters it can't have any give it looks it looks like that surface might have a little bit [TS]

00:09:54   of give to it the desk can have the slightest bit of wobble. Even the tiniest bit of wobble around even this is no. [TS]

00:10:00   It's just distracting drives you crazy all day. [TS]

00:10:02   How much staff time do you think the president has there in terms of working at a desk I mean surely it's all meetings [TS]

00:10:07   and talking and so walk and talk right that's what you learn from the from the West Wing all walk and talk. [TS]

00:10:12   I don't think it's spent and somebody's going to be sitting there editing a video. [TS]

00:10:15   Are you going to be meeting with the Joint Chiefs and then going to be meeting with the agriculture secretary [TS]

00:10:20   and then you going to be doing this and having this briefing and then shaking hands [TS]

00:10:23   and I think going to be sitting a desk a whole lot I meant to do a little reading but you could do that on a sofa [TS]

00:10:30   when other people come to you though I mean after you get a present you're not wandering around having to track down [TS]

00:10:36   the agriculture secretary. [TS]

00:10:37   Yeah yeah he of course but the desk isn't going to matter much [TS]

00:10:41   when you're sitting talking to someone it's not going to matter you know how stable your arm is for writing [TS]

00:10:45   when you're talking to someone you probably don't sit on the sofa or opposite them or in a chair [TS]

00:10:49   or you know you could have your feet up on the desk while you're talking to them [TS]

00:10:52   but I think you know I don't think you need to worry about it so much as a workspace. I think you're right. [TS]

00:10:57   My image of the president is probably not correct partly because the kind of job that requires you to be talking all [TS]

00:11:03   day long to other people is just so horrifying I refused to consider it in its entirety. [TS]

00:11:09   You become president and it looked as though from the Oval Office [TS]

00:11:12   and run the country by a mouse is it just having to negotiate with. [TS]

00:11:19   I can't imagine a job I would like less than being the president it just sounds awful. [TS]

00:11:24   That's awful but I think you're right though I think I may be the death matters much less to be impressive. [TS]

00:11:29   You got another thing here. [TS]

00:11:30   I Phone follow up the people's favorite not divisive at all [TS]

00:11:33   when we talk about i Phones We don't hear from all the people who totally hate it [TS]

00:11:36   but we're going to everywhere know everyone that is everybody loves i Phone talk. [TS]

00:11:39   You were just mentioning to me we were chatting the other day about how how long has it been that you've had your phone [TS]

00:11:44   a couple months now I have no sense of time with these things now I don't know you're probably a couple of months I've [TS]

00:11:48   had a i Phone six [TS]

00:11:51   and you were complaining to me were you not that you still are just totally unsatisfied with the size that I I would [TS]

00:11:58   almost go so far as. [TS]

00:12:00   Say I dislike it like I like I have a grudge against it now though yeah I thought you know nobody likes change [TS]

00:12:09   and I'll get used to it and the time will come that I couldn't possibly go back [TS]

00:12:13   and you know I'll change my usage habits and things but it just causes me nothing [TS]

00:12:18   but problems this because I'm still I'm still not used to it. [TS]

00:12:22   I almost dislike getting it out to use it like it is an unpleasurable experience [TS]

00:12:27   and it's beginning to become like a thorn in my side that's that sounds pretty serious. [TS]

00:12:33   I know this is you know my first world problems and you know people are starving to death and things like that [TS]

00:12:39   and I shouldn't be complaining about my fine but that's all I've got to complain about at the moment. [TS]

00:12:44   And but did you also not say to me that you almost certainly didn't buy the same size again. Yeah I kind of did. [TS]

00:12:52   Only because only because I'm so convinced that [TS]

00:12:57   when they do another round of our science they won't make a smaller one. [TS]

00:13:02   That's his pet that has the powers of the big one and I just find it hard to. [TS]

00:13:07   I dropped the power as you know [TS]

00:13:09   and I can't imagine not having the high the high spec if they made it somehow made like a five S. [TS]

00:13:16   With you know big beefed up memory and most of the same capabilities within reason and I couldn't [TS]

00:13:21   and I actually lost it obviously be a problem [TS]

00:13:23   but if they would just tell you that I'd almost do it now I don't much care. [TS]

00:13:27   I'd almost buy a smaller one now that's how much I'm just liking it. [TS]

00:13:31   I'm always pressing the wrong things and also it's made me like I don't know if it's because of this size but [TS]

00:13:37   when I used my father yes I was really fast and everything and I could I could do everything quickly. [TS]

00:13:44   And you know I could code the maps and look for things and [TS]

00:13:47   when I pulled this one out now I feel like I'm unlucky like a grandpa using a phone [TS]

00:13:52   and even things I used to know how to do or can't do. [TS]

00:13:55   Quickly anymore and I'm like oh what a web person where is it going to go. I feel like an idiot now. [TS]

00:14:03   And and that's all since I got this big fire in which I find really hard to use. [TS]

00:14:07   I'm still having to double tap to bring icons down and can reach them and it's just rubbish. [TS]

00:14:15   So right so right that's enough I said enough you can always complain to me about your i Phone anytime that you want. [TS]

00:14:20   Yeah I don't think I mentioned this on this park asked [TS]

00:14:23   but do you ever use a case on your phone I have got a case on it yeah OK I have a recommendation. [TS]

00:14:31   I'm going to make very strong with you where I got from and K.B. H.D. [TS]

00:14:37   On You Tube who does all these great tech reviews really like i Watches Apple stuff [TS]

00:14:42   and I think his i Phone six Review was by far [TS]

00:14:45   and away the best it was it was like really clear user focused reviews on You Tube It's good stuff. [TS]

00:14:51   But he recommended to me a thing which I was like No I'm never I would not use that I would hate that. [TS]

00:14:57   But he was totally right and it is not an i Phone case but an i Phone skin it almost feel like plastic [TS]

00:15:05   but it is very thin layer that is the shape of the back of your phone. [TS]

00:15:10   It's not sticky at all until you heat it and then when you heat it grips the phone really tightly [TS]

00:15:17   and where it ends up doing is giving you a kind of frictional surface on the back and the round edges of the phone [TS]

00:15:25   and I would have never thought that I would be the kind of person who would like this [TS]

00:15:30   and I totally love it because it pulls in the size of the phone by just a couple of millimeters which which makes a big [TS]

00:15:38   difference to me like the the little bit of thickness of the case is it is enough to be frustrating. [TS]

00:15:44   Phyllis Holden in a previous podcast you went caseless and thought that was better. Well that's exactly right. [TS]

00:15:48   I was going caseless with the phone but then I had this different problem which like you I was I got a new phone. [TS]

00:15:54   He knew so much because they made you a little too big and they also. [TS]

00:16:00   Made you out of apparently a material that has a coefficient of static friction of just zero right is the thing this is [TS]

00:16:08   this frictionless surface that I was constantly I would find myself just sitting like in better something holding the [TS]

00:16:14   phone and it would just fall out of my hands and I would feel like an idiot. Like how did I. Yeah like how did I. [TS]

00:16:21   I'm just sitting here. Nothing's happening and I still am unable to hold on to it somehow. [TS]

00:16:26   So I totally love this skin that goes around the outside and it I still don't like the size of the phone [TS]

00:16:33   but it I feel like OK this is this is getting closer to a thing that is kind of usable so I would highly recommend it [TS]

00:16:40   to you. [TS]

00:16:40   I'll put a link in the show notes people want to check out the skins I really like it [TS]

00:16:44   but here's the thing I was thinking of I had this crazy thought all of a sudden. [TS]

00:16:47   So looking at the stupid i Phone sex [TS]

00:16:49   and just like you I find myself wondering about are they going to make a smaller one. [TS]

00:16:53   What will I even be able to buy a smaller one because I don't like the size either but. I'm really aware. [TS]

00:17:01   Looking at this thing that's like man if you could just shave a few more millimeters here and there [TS]

00:17:05   and all the rest of it would be better. [TS]

00:17:07   I thought actually if you look at the phone and you just [TS]

00:17:12   and you just look at the size of the screen don't you don't look at the size of the phone that surround it. [TS]

00:17:19   I thought ha that screen size actually looks really great because I was wondering who the who the hell an apple was the [TS]

00:17:28   person who was testing all of these different sizes [TS]

00:17:30   and thought yeah that's the one to go with because I haven't heard anybody say that they like it. [TS]

00:17:36   Everybody says the exact same thing it's a little too big. [TS]

00:17:39   I've never heard anybody be like oh yes old it's great to talk to my wife she still loves it. [TS]

00:17:43   Anyway so we have we have one person who does love [TS]

00:17:49   but what so what occurred to me was I thought maybe this is one of these cases where Apple is thinking about what is [TS]

00:17:55   the phone going to be a couple generations from now. And I thought. [TS]

00:18:00   If if they can really pull in the bezel especially the thing on the bottom which takes up a lot of space I feel like [TS]

00:18:08   that that would that would really make the phone much much better. [TS]

00:18:12   So I look at when I hold it and I'm trying to reach the top and I can't I can't quite get those top icons. [TS]

00:18:18   It's that is the bottom bezel that's causing a lot of that problem of not being able to reach up all the way up to the [TS]

00:18:24   top so if I could actually just hold an object that was almost exactly the size of the screen that would be way better. [TS]

00:18:31   This is my crazy thought is that maybe Apple is going to try to get rid of the bezels on the top on the bottom as much [TS]

00:18:37   as they can so that the phone really becomes like just the size of the screen [TS]

00:18:41   and the thing that was making me wonder about this this is the piece that was missing is that in the Apple Watch. [TS]

00:18:47   One of the things they have are they is a pressure sensitive screen which is new and different. [TS]

00:18:54   So it it doesn't just tell when you touch it it tells when you press on it. [TS]

00:18:58   And I thought maybe in a couple generations they won't need that button on the bottom. [TS]

00:19:04   If instead there's a region on the screen that can tell when you press it instead of just touching it. [TS]

00:19:10   So that could be like the home button. [TS]

00:19:12   This is just my wild eyed speculation [TS]

00:19:14   but I'm just I'm trying to give myself hope for the future I guess that if they don't make a small phone that maybe [TS]

00:19:19   it'll be OK someday because I can't live like this for the rest of my life. [TS]

00:19:23   I tell you what if someone banned wild speculation about a future Apple products I don't know what podcast of this [TS]

00:19:30   and the final thing on my list is just a million people sent this to me is a link to the Canadian passport. [TS]

00:19:41   Can you open up this link on your son. I can and I am doing so now. [TS]

00:19:46   It comes and it is an article about things that the newest version of the Canadian passport [TS]

00:19:53   and this is somewhat follow because last time we were talking about Norway's passport which I very much. [TS]

00:20:00   The design of and they had a cool security feature about how the scene changes if you put it under a black light [TS]

00:20:06   and it looks like the Canadian passport has gone all in on is black light technology you know they have like they have [TS]

00:20:13   learned how to do it and that is gone where gone crazy. What else can we do. [TS]

00:20:17   Every page of the Canadian passport it has some of the dude picture on it and you put it under the black light [TS]

00:20:23   and then suddenly it's there's many believes that fire works and explosions everywhere. [TS]

00:20:31   I think if the regular pictures weren't so sedate I'm not quite sure how I would feel about this [TS]

00:20:37   but I love there's one which is almost like the American passport because there's a there's a picture of like a train [TS]

00:20:44   and some oil pipelines in the background and you put it under the black light [TS]

00:20:49   and suddenly there's a grain in the front and clouds and birds flying across the sky. [TS]

00:20:54   So I could see this being in the American passport almost [TS]

00:20:56   but it is definitely it is definitely fun to look at to see the difference in the the scenes under the blacklight [TS]

00:21:03   versus not under black light. I don't approve I am not. I think it's tacky. [TS]

00:21:09   I know you and he say on the black but just because it is the thing that shows up on the black cloud could be code [TS]

00:21:14   and I think some of these are a bit I'm not cool with that so many Canadians because [TS]

00:21:19   and I have proud to every country and stuff [TS]

00:21:22   and you know good people to say that I don't like what you've done here so you must be on the other [TS]

00:21:30   when it was called What was it. [TS]

00:21:31   No Why what was the country I was it was not it was Norway this was kind of cool because it was you know a roller [TS]

00:21:37   and stuff like that. [TS]

00:21:38   Almost like it was switching to not time and stuff [TS]

00:21:40   but it was definitely it was the roar at night time it look at the Norway one was undoubtably beautiful That's why I [TS]

00:21:47   keep using the word fun here I feel like this is this is fun and kind of crazy and I let it let it slide [TS]

00:21:54   but if the passport look like this just in general be terrible Yes awful. [TS]

00:22:00   But it is a little bit like someone figured out how to do the black light technology and Norway did it first [TS]

00:22:06   and did it subtly [TS]

00:22:07   and then count I was like This is where you feel like like everything the one who does the kind of crazy is the [TS]

00:22:15   founding fathers and then the article says when you put it into the black light it's the founding fathers at a rave [TS]

00:22:21   and it looks like a river or in Tron or they are kind of drawn to it as well. It'll be in the center. [TS]

00:22:27   People could take a look at it. Passport follow up and Ira I have some follow up. [TS]

00:22:34   Yes something something just to mention. [TS]

00:22:36   Depending on when this show goes out I'm pretty sure we know when it will [TS]

00:22:40   and this is what Star Wars with feta event yes the the week in which this podcast is going out should be the week in [TS]

00:22:51   which the tickets allocators on machining the pod cast a pall of be going up on a Monday and on the Tuesday [TS]

00:22:57   and Wednesday I'm going to do the main the main stuff take to allocate these tickets to anyone who wants to come along [TS]

00:23:04   and watch Star Wars with yourself and myself and David Prowse da Veda and you put a link in the show notes [TS]

00:23:12   and anyone who's came to know about how that's happening. [TS]

00:23:15   Can follow that link but follow it certain because if you're listening to this a few days later you may have missed it. [TS]

00:23:23   Yes oh so our podcast we know in advance is Time's going to go up on February sixteenth is the day this goes live yet [TS]

00:23:31   and so the short version is that you were going to make information available to the patriotic subscribers first about [TS]

00:23:37   how to get the first round of tickets on Tuesday the sixteenth Tuesday the seventeenth then yeah [TS]

00:23:44   and then we're going to have a second round of tickets available to everybody on the following Wednesday is the one. [TS]

00:23:51   So that's that's the schedule for getting tickets to the Bristol Zoo to see Star Wars [TS]

00:23:57   and all that's explained in more detail on there. [TS]

00:24:00   My blog and it's a bit convoluted that's partly because this is all for charity [TS]

00:24:04   and we need to arrange in such a way that is collecting the money and things like that. [TS]

00:24:08   But if you're interested go on have a look if you are interested. Well we'll stop talking. [TS]

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00:25:49   Harries dot com Thank you so much for them for supporting Asher. It is time for a plane crash going to avoid. [TS]

00:26:00   Haven't had Brady's plane crash corner for a while. No we have not had a plane crash corner. [TS]

00:26:07   And can I just tell everyone listening if this plane crash going to ANS very suddenly it is not because I didn't have a [TS]

00:26:13   lot to say it is because Gray has edited every way you warn me in advance that you have some kind of extravaganza some [TS]

00:26:22   sort of song and dance show for plane crash corner. There's no there is no singing or dancing. [TS]

00:26:27   And as always I'll preface things by saying plane crashes are bad news and very serious right. But I'll tell you why. [TS]

00:26:34   As I've said before whenever a plane crash happens now my Twitter timeline lights up like a Christmas tree. [TS]

00:26:42   And that has been happening again. Now I guess the headline crash the one that everyone's been talking about have you. [TS]

00:26:49   Surely you even in your News bubble has seen this extraordinary footage of this crash in Taiwan where the plane came in [TS]

00:26:57   over a motorway. I have not seen this. I have not heard of this. You are amazing. [TS]

00:27:04   Let me send you this link I was this is bin for reasons we might get into later. [TS]

00:27:10   I have been unusually sequestered and busy this past week for the past two weeks now really. [TS]

00:27:16   So I I am unfamiliar with this what do I need to look at. So before you look at this crisis I'll just say. [TS]

00:27:23   Hasn't the introduction of dash cams resulted in unbelievable amounts of new footage for the news media that we would [TS]

00:27:31   never seen before and this is a stellar example for the news media. I see it all on the Internet. [TS]

00:27:39   Well OK it's going to cook this now. Yeah go on. [TS]

00:27:42   OK I have a son the little spoiler I can hear who that is a terrifying plane crash. Pretty amazing pretty amazing. [TS]

00:27:58   So so anyway. It's you know it's a terrible thing to happen. [TS]

00:28:02   People died [TS]

00:28:03   and it turns out actually it was what looks like it might be one of these crashes where one of the engines failed on [TS]

00:28:09   takeoff and the pilots turned off the wrong engine and lost both their engines [TS]

00:28:14   and then it was just it was bad news from there on. [TS]

00:28:18   So anyway it is dash cam footage is of someone just driving along the highway and the plane crashes. [TS]

00:28:23   I mean it looks like it can't be more than thirty forty meters in front of the car just kind of clips clips the road [TS]

00:28:30   and goes into like a river or something on the side there and they actually click that taxicab in front as well. [TS]

00:28:36   I didn't even notice that. [TS]

00:28:38   But it does it looks like the plane is flying normally as it comes in from the right side of the screen [TS]

00:28:45   and then it just it looks like it just turns and falls right out of the sky and it's going to directly [TS]

00:28:50   or skyscrapers and things. [TS]

00:28:52   Anyway so there's a there's the you know I'm sure you can see why a lot of people were tweeting me [TS]

00:28:58   when that footage was going around last night because it was you know that must of been very exciting for you. [TS]

00:29:03   It was [TS]

00:29:03   when I was you know I was into office it was interesting Funnily enough the car one more behind also had a dash cam so [TS]

00:29:08   you can watch the same thing from another hundred meters away. The dash cams are obviously a big thing in Taiwan. [TS]

00:29:16   If you have if you have to dash cams you could do so you could see that you computer and do a some semi three D. [TS]

00:29:22   Reconstruction of the scene when you have perspective on it. Now you're now you're thinking now. [TS]

00:29:28   So anyway what I did this morning was I phoned my good friend who I've referred to numerous times on the podcast who is [TS]

00:29:35   a pilot your pilot friend my pilot friend Louie and funnily enough he's been a seven four seven pilot for years [TS]

00:29:42   but he's just been training on new planes so he can do new routes so I happened to find him [TS]

00:29:47   and not while he was having a break from his new training so it's quite funny to find out your pilot friend who is [TS]

00:29:52   learning to fly planes. So let's talk about plane crashes and the thing I want to get from him was what it's like. [TS]

00:30:00   For pilots watching footage like that of plane crashes because for a lot you [TS]

00:30:05   and me you know it's like Gosh how scary is that you know I would want to be in a plane crash right. [TS]

00:30:12   But the second thing is to not be so powerless and you know it just be a passenger and what can I do. [TS]

00:30:17   But obviously pilots must go through this with different eyes. [TS]

00:30:21   So so anyway I gave him a call and I've discussed this with him before [TS]

00:30:27   and he gave me his usual answers which always disappoint me. [TS]

00:30:31   And you get so technical and start saying well you know this is what you're supposed to do [TS]

00:30:36   and this pilot probably didn't do this and we should always do this and this [TS]

00:30:39   and if you do this planes are really safe and it's almost impossible for that to happen if you do this [TS]

00:30:44   and he gave me the big run down [TS]

00:30:47   and towards the end of the conversation something occurred to me that has never occurred to me before. [TS]

00:30:52   Luck or lack of like a bolt from the blue this flash of inspiration [TS]

00:30:57   and I can't believe I've never thought of this before. You see G.P. Grey in another life should have been a pilot. [TS]

00:31:07   Oh yeah lots and lots of things about your personality [TS]

00:31:10   and the way he was talking to me makes me think Gray would be a perfect pilot because it's all about like being really [TS]

00:31:19   rational and like you know I don't panic just follow the procedure. [TS]

00:31:24   It's all of everything about flying is about checklists. [TS]

00:31:27   He was telling me if this happens we've got this checklist and we've got this happens we've got this checklist [TS]

00:31:32   and we've got the thirteen checklist that we have to know by memory [TS]

00:31:34   and then the other ones we've got in the book that does sound very satisfying. [TS]

00:31:38   Yeah everything and it's you know and it's involving big machinery and things like that and you love machines [TS]

00:31:43   and engineering and physics and all that sort of thing and you know you're flying around the world over [TS]

00:31:49   and using using maps and borders and coordinates and it just like everything about being a pilot. [TS]

00:31:58   I think you know I know you do. I'm not jet lag and you don't like flying but other than that minor problem. [TS]

00:32:06   In another lie you should have been a pilot I think that is your perfect job. [TS]

00:32:11   Airline pilot I do remember thinking when I was in college [TS]

00:32:14   and you have you're faced with the crisis of Oh God what am I going to do with the rest of my life and [TS]

00:32:20   when I leave these hallowed walls of security [TS]

00:32:23   and I remember thinking about pilot as one of the options of not necessarily that it was realistic [TS]

00:32:30   but just in the in the universe of jobs that I could try and imagine myself actually doing. [TS]

00:32:35   Pilot was one of the ones that I thought I think I might be able to get used to that I could. [TS]

00:32:40   This doesn't look so bad [TS]

00:32:41   but I obviously didn't like the practicalities of becoming a pattern it's very difficult it's not like I get what has [TS]

00:32:47   become a pilot. [TS]

00:32:48   There are very many reasons why I did not go down that path [TS]

00:32:51   but of the numerous jobs that were out there that was on my list of in some universe I could imagine doing this job. [TS]

00:32:59   Unlike say a Dr Wright was just there's no there's no universe in which I could be a doctor that would just never [TS]

00:33:04   happen. So you even kind of look like a pilot. [TS]

00:33:07   Oh yeah yeah like I can imagine you in a pilot uniform like pilots look pretty much like you look a lot of the time. [TS]

00:33:15   Oh yeah yeah you know I mean not that I mean it is the stereotypical you know Tom Cruise maverick pilot [TS]

00:33:20   but that's not what real pilots real pilots look like you. [TS]

00:33:27   Well I'm not quite sure how to take that but we just take it as such don't take it just [TS]

00:33:32   and this science is just a thing OK. Shouldn't they have like a company even in the thought of it before. [TS]

00:33:39   Anyway I think you know it's maybe in a different life that could have happened. [TS]

00:33:44   Let me go morbid on you now that oh boy who is my favorite part. [TS]

00:33:48   Yeah because towards the end of this conversation with my friend I was a bit disappointed I was like you know he's so [TS]

00:33:54   he's so rational and boring about it just like you would break and then suddenly. [TS]

00:34:00   He says Actually there is one piece of footage of a plane crash that I watch that does give me shivers. [TS]

00:34:08   He's laying them all you know he's saying all the footage that I've seen on all the things he says there is one plane [TS]

00:34:13   crash that there is footage of on the internet and [TS]

00:34:15   when I watched that as a pilot it Shin's it sends shivers down my spine. Would you like to see this footage. [TS]

00:34:25   It's not like it's not you know it's OK It's not like inappropriate [TS]

00:34:30   but it is really interesting to see the one crash that terrifies a pilot and it affected me in a funny way. [TS]

00:34:38   I'm going to send it to I can believe I hadn't seen this before by the way it's an extraordinary piece of footage. OK. [TS]

00:34:46   I'm doing this for the listeners. I've no desire to do this. [TS]

00:34:50   OK I feel like this is the start of the Star Wars trailer all over again. I don't really want to watch this thing. [TS]

00:34:55   Let me say it again we can do it. Let me let me set the scene for this crash as well. [TS]

00:34:59   OK Because you have to sort of understand what's happening. [TS]

00:35:03   This is this is footage of a seven hundred seven taking off it's it's a cargo flight that has some really heavy [TS]

00:35:10   military vehicles in the in the plane and they weren't sick you would probably. [TS]

00:35:17   And when it took off they kind of came loose and all went to the back of the plane [TS]

00:35:21   and through the balance of the plane completely off right [TS]

00:35:25   and the outcome the outcome is what you say so that that explains the movement of this plane. [TS]

00:35:29   OK and I'll send you this footage now and this is apparently this is the sort of footage that does scare a pilot. [TS]

00:35:37   OK Got it. All right I'm watching I'm watching now. OK well your thoughts. [TS]

00:35:50   I mean everybody everybody dies of the giant fiery explosion. Yes Well yeah. [TS]

00:35:57   Behave as my friend my friend said like hey hey look. [TS]

00:36:00   Almost all plane crashes and thinks quite rationally about them I could do this or maybe they should have done this [TS]

00:36:05   or if this was done differently but he says he looks at that one [TS]

00:36:09   and it's just you're just completely powerless in a huge bit of metal then and you can do nothing about it. [TS]

00:36:15   For the for the listener that is probably not the right technical term [TS]

00:36:19   but it is what it looks like the plane is flying in [TS]

00:36:22   and it I mean it's good to know what you said the balance of the plane shifted. [TS]

00:36:27   Yeah but it looks like the plane stalls in mid-air that it's going forward and then it just it just stops [TS]

00:36:35   and then just drops like a stone really. [TS]

00:36:37   Yeah that that's exactly it it kind of goes it looks like it's going forward it kind of inches back for a second [TS]

00:36:42   and then just straight down and it is it's not very high off the ground it looks like it must have just taken off. [TS]

00:36:49   Yeah. Thirty seconds before if that. [TS]

00:36:52   So there's nothing nothing that can be done that it just smashes into the ground very laden with fuel obviously. [TS]

00:36:58   So it's so my pilot friend said that that's that's the one that terrifies him [TS]

00:37:02   and I also would say that's the one that terrifies me. [TS]

00:37:06   And and the reason for that is [TS]

00:37:09   when I watch that like I always have this stupid belief in my head that if I was in a plane crash you know maybe I'd [TS]

00:37:16   get away with it you know I'd break some bones and idea but when you watch that crash and what happens [TS]

00:37:23   when that plane hits the ground. [TS]

00:37:25   I'd have to see planes at grandma that watching that you look at that and think [TS]

00:37:30   when no one's walking away from that no one knows walk away from that. [TS]

00:37:34   Yes I say that that bothers bothers me WAY less because I've never had this bizarre notion that I will just be [TS]

00:37:43   magically OK in a terrible situation like you have so I can see that house for you this is much more disturbing because [TS]

00:37:48   you're faced with the reality of you can just die in a plane crash like the rest of us mortals you don't have a magic [TS]

00:37:55   protection field around you there is no there's no lucky escape from that. Now the one thing. [TS]

00:38:00   This is not an actual plane crash footage [TS]

00:38:03   but the sound was a movie you must know I saw a clip from that movie with Denzel Washington where he's an airplane [TS]

00:38:10   pilot. You know we're talking about and he turned that around upside down. Yet he turns the plane upside down. [TS]

00:38:16   I don't even know it's based on true story and I have no idea [TS]

00:38:19   but I saw a You Tube clip of this scene in the movie where there's a problem with the engine and all the rest of it. [TS]

00:38:24   And Denzel Washington is a heroic pilot who was called Flight. [TS]

00:38:28   Maybe you're paying way Denzel Washington to save the day and I want to go [TS]

00:38:33   and that actually affected me quite greatly not because of anything like because it's a movie so it didn't you know [TS]

00:38:38   whatever it may be this is real Maybe it's not I don't know but I feel really stupid because I watched that clip [TS]

00:38:44   and the thing that kept happening in my mind was realizing this scene is really long [TS]

00:38:50   and somehow it never occurred to me that oh plane crashes aren't really fast. [TS]

00:38:56   I actually in my mind without thinking it through sort of imagine that all plane crashes were like the one that you [TS]

00:39:01   just showed me like we're in the plane. There's a problem and two seconds later it's all over. [TS]

00:39:08   It never occurred to me that you could be in the air for a relatively long time with nothing to do [TS]

00:39:14   and if you're at thirty thousand fate and even if you just drop like a stone it's a long drop. [TS]

00:39:18   This is exactly I think this was just something my brain had refused to consider [TS]

00:39:24   and then like an idiot I watched this clip of a movie plane crash [TS]

00:39:28   and was forced to come to the realization of I'm sitting here through this seven minute scene. [TS]

00:39:34   If it doesn't mean that it's over quickly if you're in a plane it can be a long time a long time of waiting for it to [TS]

00:39:42   be over and that is much more terrifying to me to know what's really interesting lots of people always write to us [TS]

00:39:47   and say they gets on with I find it quite funny to listen to this section when they're on planes [TS]

00:39:52   but I think I'll be enjoying this one very much. I don't know how they enjoy any of them. [TS]

00:39:56   Yes All right I'm sorry everyone on planes blame. It's one hundred percent on Brady. It's all Brady's fault. [TS]

00:40:02   I haven't actually finished yet I've got a bit more I want to talk about. [TS]

00:40:05   Oh boy that will then lead us away from blank rushes to another subject that we are bored. [TS]

00:40:11   Yeah I wish we could talk about I was talking about plane crashes all day with my favorite thing. [TS]

00:40:14   There was another tragic incident a little bit of publicity recently I think happened last year a report came out [TS]

00:40:21   recently. [TS]

00:40:21   To cut a long story short it was it was a guy who was just taking work through individual friends for joy flights in a [TS]

00:40:30   two person Cessna land had a crash and him and his passenger unfortunately died [TS]

00:40:35   and then the report found the reason for the crash was taking selfies I'm just going by just going crazy with cameras [TS]

00:40:42   probably and taking pictures of themselves and some you know a flash mob have gone off in our lives or distraction [TS]

00:40:49   or something and the plane came down. I would I will I will say to people who do it who are into reading N.T.S.B. [TS]

00:40:59   Crash reports this is quite an interesting one to read to sort of get you started because it was quite short [TS]

00:41:06   and it's a little bit different as this is your recommended baby's first and D.S.'s crash report. [TS]

00:41:11   Yeah I think this is a good start [TS]

00:41:13   and one reason is interesting is the plane had a go pro on the dashboard that was filming all his previous flights to [TS]

00:41:20   fly the ill fated flight. [TS]

00:41:22   There is no footage of presumably because the recording didn't save to the car because of the crash [TS]

00:41:28   but all the previous ones were on the cut [TS]

00:41:30   and the report goes through what was on all the previous Go Pro recordings which is quite interesting because if you're [TS]

00:41:36   reading this crash report and something they're talking about all these things that are on the Go Pro all the files [TS]

00:41:41   and because everyone was taking selfies in all the previous slots and come to their conclusions. [TS]

00:41:47   But that to move away from plane crashes I mean like I mean I think as an investor discuss here if you're a pilot [TS]

00:41:54   taking selfies in a plane is probably not a smart move. But it did get me thinking about something. [TS]

00:42:00   Interesting my wife said to me the other day we were on a long drive moo going down the motorway I was driving [TS]

00:42:06   and I was listening to a podcast and she said that my driving is much worse when I'm listening to a podcast. [TS]

00:42:17   But she said you know he clearly is paying less attention I mean she is always complaining about my driving. [TS]

00:42:22   But she said it's worse when I'm listening to a podcast [TS]

00:42:25   and obviously there's always you know I don't use a mobile phone. Don't look at a screen. Be hands free. [TS]

00:42:31   But we never really talk about distraction in this way you know should what should we be listening to a woman driving. [TS]

00:42:37   You know is is listening to music or listening to podcasts or dangerous. [TS]

00:42:43   Not that I want to discourage people from listening to hello internet when they go on their drives [TS]

00:42:46   but it was an interesting discussion something I hadn't thought about before is some is listening to some things that [TS]

00:42:53   you're more engaged in more dangerous. [TS]

00:42:55   You have just hit on a total pet peeve of mine because in the US there's this debate about the different driving laws [TS]

00:43:05   in different states and this is something that drives me crazy. Yeah. [TS]

00:43:09   It's all the states do things differently and lots of states have set up different rules for whether [TS]

00:43:16   or not you can use hands free connections on your phone when you're driving. [TS]

00:43:22   So can use a Bluetooth headset [TS]

00:43:24   or like my my parents' car have some feature where the i Phone just routes through the built in microphones [TS]

00:43:30   and speakers of the car. Yeah that counts as hands legs all various different ways to deal with a market as well. [TS]

00:43:36   OK So that strikes me as magic for some reason I'm always surprised by all of the cars just speaking the person anyway. [TS]

00:43:44   No I find it I find it very off putting in this way that is carried out. [TS]

00:43:49   Yeah maybe it just it just feels weird to commit to the persons talking [TS]

00:43:53   and like inside the prison I don't know it I don't like it at all with a person like this. [TS]

00:43:57   Anyway this is what this is all beside the point because the thing that. [TS]

00:44:00   It's me crazy is that some states do this thing about no you can't you can talk on the phone. Full stop. [TS]

00:44:09   You're not allowed to use the phone at all while you're in the car. [TS]

00:44:12   Another other states have this whole oh you can do it hands free this is obviously so much better [TS]

00:44:17   and people are big on turning their state into a hands free state as opposed to a you know no cellphones at all state. [TS]

00:44:25   Yeah and I hate this because there's there's a University of Utah applied Cognition Lab laboratory study [TS]

00:44:35   and they've actually done take six relations of people driving in cars [TS]

00:44:39   and the bottom line is if you are talking to someone on the phone it makes basically no difference whether [TS]

00:44:45   or not you're doing it with one hand holding the phone or not. [TS]

00:44:49   But the thing that causes an accident is not who I didn't have enough grip on the steering wheel. [TS]

00:44:55   It's who I didn't notice something because I wasn't paying attention to the situation at hand [TS]

00:45:00   and they actually the study puts the odds at you are basically exactly the same as a drunk driver in terms of [TS]

00:45:09   likelihood of accidents if you are talking on the phone while you are driving. [TS]

00:45:15   That this is there is no difference in the probability of you getting into an accident. [TS]

00:45:20   As I feel very strongly about this and I don't like to be in cars when people are talking on the phone [TS]

00:45:27   and I've had conversations with some people about this where I'm not going to be in the car with you if you're talking [TS]

00:45:33   on the phone because I wouldn't be in the car with a drunk driver. [TS]

00:45:38   Nobody would get into a car with somebody who was drunk. [TS]

00:45:41   But if you take out your cell phone [TS]

00:45:43   and you start talking to somebody even even if you're using hands free you have effectively transformed yourself into a [TS]

00:45:51   drunk driver in terms of statistics. During this time. So I am very very anti talking on the phone in any way. [TS]

00:46:00   When you're in a car. You just basically a drunk driver. [TS]

00:46:03   At that point but you know people people think that it's about physically gripping the steering wheel [TS]

00:46:08   and it has nothing nothing to do with that. Interesting. Yeah hi. [TS]

00:46:15   I do talk on the phone while driving and it's not it's not legal here. [TS]

00:46:20   And the first my first response to what to what you say is I completely agree because I always like Miss turn off some [TS]

00:46:29   things when I'm going somewhere and I'm talking to. I agree. I I do not disagree with you. [TS]

00:46:37   I do think handheld devices are more dangerous particularly because I would never do this [TS]

00:46:44   but I have heard it said that if you send a text message while driving that is more dangerous than talking on the phone [TS]

00:46:51   while driving because then you start taking your eyes off the road and you drift across lanes [TS]

00:46:55   and yeah so I mean if you're texting while driving you're a crazy person [TS]

00:47:00   and we both know someone who text while driving way too much is probably listening to this pod cast right now who [TS]

00:47:06   should totally stop that tweeting while driving. [TS]

00:47:09   Oh I realize that you know who you are a person should stop that's right. So. So that is more dangerous. [TS]

00:47:17   So I think anything that anything that's taking the phone you know anything that's encouraging the use of the phone not [TS]

00:47:24   in the hand I think does have merit to it and maybe it's a first step towards weaning us off our phones while driving. [TS]

00:47:31   Well this this thing was again just talking about you are talking they weren't doing a comparison between texting while [TS]

00:47:37   driving. I would bet the texting while driving is is way worse than being drunk. [TS]

00:47:42   That your odds are much much higher for the drum person is looking at the road. [TS]

00:47:47   Yeah but they have their hands free so I don't feel like handsfree gets us one step closer [TS]

00:47:52   and it's it's kind of like I'm not actually a fan of a lot of Apple's car play things like a lot of cars having this [TS]

00:47:59   integration. [TS]

00:48:00   Now with Apple phones now and Android has some I don't know what it's called [TS]

00:48:04   but Android has some similar program where you know like you can now talk to Siri while you're in the phone [TS]

00:48:08   but it's like a built in feature of the car and you and I just look at all that stuff [TS]

00:48:13   and I think Man I just I have I I don't know I I'm just very much I'm very much against that stuff [TS]

00:48:22   and it's like I don't think people should be using their phones at all. [TS]

00:48:25   But [TS]

00:48:26   but obviously people do say you need some kind of you know me I love system solution you need some kind of system solution [TS]

00:48:32   to this issue. [TS]

00:48:34   You can't just tell people Oh don't don't text while driving because even very smart people who should totally know [TS]

00:48:39   better will text while driving just all the time. [TS]

00:48:42   You know like they have to check Twitter right now and they're driving on the highway and it doesn't matter [TS]

00:48:46   and that's just that's just insane is just insane. People do it. [TS]

00:48:51   Then a Herzog film that was made funded by the mobile phone companies in the US that was then released on You Tube [TS]

00:49:00   and things like that which was a series of sort of vignettes with people who had either lost people [TS]

00:49:06   or who would cause the death of people because they were texting [TS]

00:49:08   and using their phones while driving was very effective. [TS]

00:49:11   I watched and it really affected my attitude to my phone while driving. And stay with us. [TS]

00:49:17   I have but you still call me while you're driving. [TS]

00:49:19   Yeah I still make phone calls because I can hear you at all it's terrible because I can barely hear you [TS]

00:49:24   and you're basically driving drunk and nothing is gained. [TS]

00:49:27   I mean I think it's very easy for you to say this because you don't drive much. [TS]

00:49:32   And but I don't disagree with you and I disagree with you here. Let us do an interesting thing right. [TS]

00:49:40   Like during a back to your original point because it is very easy for someone like me who basically never drives to say [TS]

00:49:47   I go Don't don't be on the phone while driving I mean I do feel like that because you know I don't want to be killed by [TS]

00:49:52   some moron who's talking on the phone and I'm getting attention. [TS]

00:49:55   Yeah but I think it like an interesting question is is your original one is and I don't. [TS]

00:50:00   I know of any studies I haven't come across anything I'd be really curious if any of the listeners know but [TS]

00:50:03   but has anyone done something about something like a pod cast. [TS]

00:50:08   Because the studies that I've come across talking about distracted driving point out how talking to somebody else who's [TS]

00:50:15   physically in the car makes no difference whatsoever. [TS]

00:50:19   It doesn't make you more likely to get into an accident [TS]

00:50:22   and part part of the reason there is that the person who's in the car with you is can textually aware of the situation [TS]

00:50:28   and is going to sound so obvious as soon as I say it [TS]

00:50:31   but I thought oh that was something really never never occurred to me. [TS]

00:50:33   When you're driving with someone and this happens all the time. [TS]

00:50:37   When you come to an intersection or some kind of tricky driving situation the person in the car stops talking [TS]

00:50:44   and you just wait a few seconds [TS]

00:50:45   and then the conversation just picks up like nothing happened as soon as you're through the you know the left hand turn [TS]

00:50:50   across a busy intersection and there's a lot about that but of course it seems so obvious as soon as someone says it [TS]

00:50:56   and you don't even notice it [TS]

00:50:57   but it must have been you know you're taking a long drive it must happen a dozen times on the drive that the passenger [TS]

00:51:02   just stops and allows you to focus and then you come back [TS]

00:51:07   and that the problem with talking with someone is that they are not can textually aware of your situation yet so the [TS]

00:51:14   person on the other end of the phone just keeps yammering away. [TS]

00:51:17   You're trying to make that left hand turn across an intersection and they're not aware enough [TS]

00:51:22   and then suddenly your brain is split. I mean yeah. [TS]

00:51:25   I'm and a pod cast of people talking on a podcast [TS]

00:51:29   and contextually aware of what you're doing so maybe they are maybe they're worse Well they are worse than that person [TS]

00:51:34   sitting next to you there are bigger danger. Well so here's here's what I want to hear that I wonder. [TS]

00:51:39   Again I would love I would love to see a real study on this. [TS]

00:51:42   But Mike My question is maybe I would speculate that there's a there's a chance that listening to something like a [TS]

00:51:50   podcast [TS]

00:51:51   or an audiobook doesn't affect the likelihood of accidents merely because there's no social pressure for you to the per. [TS]

00:52:00   Person to keep listening to the speaker. [TS]

00:52:04   So as I mentioned before I've done several cross country trips [TS]

00:52:06   and there's no way I could have done them without audiobooks. [TS]

00:52:10   Yeah and that's [TS]

00:52:10   and that's why someone told me you know my chance of getting into an accident was not drunk driver level [TS]

00:52:16   but slightly elevated if while listening to audiobooks [TS]

00:52:18   and driving I would have to seriously consider that something like a six week road trip like well you know how high are [TS]

00:52:26   these odds because I need something to help me get through all the driving. [TS]

00:52:31   But I would I would wonder that then maybe it's not bad simply because you can just tune out the speaker on the audio [TS]

00:52:38   book as something I know like I was a lothario it happens all the time if I'm just walking around [TS]

00:52:42   and I find my my attention has gotten caught on something else like oh what's this thing happening over here [TS]

00:52:47   and then I've totally missed the audio book for a minute or two I would have to jump back [TS]

00:52:51   when I realize I've missed something so I don't I would I would love to know I would love to know if it's different [TS]

00:52:57   because while I do think that people should listen to Hello internets all day all the time. [TS]

00:53:03   If if it was increasing their likelihood of getting into accidents while driving I would not want them to listen. [TS]

00:53:08   I would recommend that they don't but we don't know right now. [TS]

00:53:11   So I would love to know all about one of our sponsors for this episode either. OK now that's a good question. [TS]

00:53:18   Certainly I'm really hoping not but you know what it doesn't it doesn't matter right. [TS]

00:53:24   I actually want to look at every lot of one of our sponsors. Where is where is our little thing. Hello Internet. [TS]

00:53:30   Audible dot com is what fits with this you can audit how important they were to cross country trips. [TS]

00:53:41   You know that that is entirely is is this the best time [TS]

00:53:44   or the worst time to lead into the art of glad I have no idea when the we do the ad later will have to figure it out. [TS]

00:53:49   Ira cut to the Autoglass Yes it's a horrible if you haven't ventured into the world of audiobooks you really should do [TS]

00:53:57   a lot of dot com. [TS]

00:54:00   Leading provider of books and other spoken material [TS]

00:54:03   and let's face it if you listen to hello internet you don't mind settling in for a serious round of talking. [TS]

00:54:09   All it will have a truly astonishing range of titles and I really don't know where to start with recommendations. [TS]

00:54:14   Perhaps what I'll suggest this way is going to order Vo at their web site or dot com [TS]

00:54:19   and use the search term chess which covers up some really good books now I'm no chess expert [TS]

00:54:25   and I'm certainly not a good player but I really love books about chess. [TS]

00:54:29   Over the last year or so I've read some really good ones. [TS]

00:54:31   Probably my favorite is one coach the immortal game by David shank and of course all of who has it. [TS]

00:54:39   There's a six hour abridged version read by Rick Adamson. You really will love it. [TS]

00:54:45   It's not oh look to be three and not to date. [TS]

00:54:48   It's an intriguing story about the game's history and its colorful players really well written really great stories. [TS]

00:54:55   Trust me you'll like this one. Good old dot com slash hello internet. [TS]

00:55:00   Just signed on for an audible trial and that will include the free download of a book of your choice [TS]

00:55:06   and maybe you choose the immortal game if not you can go through some of their previous podcasts [TS]

00:55:11   and get other recommendations that myself and Gray have made over the last year or so. That address again. [TS]

00:55:18   Autobytel dot com slash hello internet. [TS]

00:55:20   So they know you came from us and our thanks to all of all for supporting this podcast. [TS]

00:55:28   OK I think Audrey went and sat outside the door [TS]

00:55:31   and I could hear her snoring out there you left the poor dog just sitting outside the door also should usually they [TS]

00:55:36   would both go down to my bedroom and go on their big lovely bed down there but she wants to be with her master [TS]

00:55:41   and you chased around with a baseball bat and she still loves you. Cole she loves sitting up against the door. [TS]

00:55:48   We let me just say that we're best buddies you know your best buddies [TS]

00:55:53   when I come where you got this bunny because not harsh. One just hand story man you've written something in the night. [TS]

00:56:03   His hand story. OK I have I have a I have a little this is our catchup section. [TS]

00:56:09   What's happened since the last time we spoke into each other. [TS]

00:56:11   Yeah I have a little story that ultimately has little moral at the end of it. [TS]

00:56:15   Also when it tells us you were quite excited. It's not actually that exciting but yeah about a week and a half ago. [TS]

00:56:23   Yeah you couldn't doubt it with Once upon a time. Once upon a time a week and a half ago in my flat. [TS]

00:56:29   Yeah I'm right is not a fantasy story. [TS]

00:56:31   I was getting ready to do my regular work routine some getting up in the morning unusually busy this last week [TS]

00:56:37   and this current week I have a couple deadlines I need to hit which is not normally the case for me so lots of stuff to [TS]

00:56:43   do I can't afford delays. What time do you get out. Well at the moment I am getting up at about six thirty. [TS]

00:56:50   Sorry that was involuntary noise I didn't know that time existed. [TS]

00:56:53   You're still snoozing for an hour and a half or two and a half hour [TS]

00:56:58   and you get up at six thirty at the time that sometimes I have to get up [TS]

00:57:01   and prepare for away before I go back to bed for a bit more sleep. Well six hundred thirty six thirty works. [TS]

00:57:08   This happens to be the time with lights anyway. Get up at six thirty. [TS]

00:57:12   But my wife is going off to work getting ready starting the day you are still snoozing probably And so you know we've [TS]

00:57:18   discussed before I have my little routine that has to go just the way that I wanted to go I need to make my breakfast [TS]

00:57:25   in a particular way like how all this everything used to be just so so that I can kind of get into a regular workday [TS]

00:57:31   and it always sounds crazy [TS]

00:57:33   but if things go wrong I've just learned from experience it spells disaster for the amount of stuff I can actually get [TS]

00:57:38   done. [TS]

00:57:38   This is the way things are [TS]

00:57:39   but so on this particular morning something happened to be different which is that our dishwasher did not run overnight [TS]

00:57:46   because it didn't happen to be close all the way so it couldn't be couldn't run automatically so we didn't have clean [TS]

00:57:52   dishes so I had to go get a different cup for my coffee. [TS]

00:57:56   No this is not this was a sign this was a sign from above that you. [TS]

00:58:00   Should have Donald's breakfast that's how you would interpret this. [TS]

00:58:06   Yeah you take this is a sign you have to go into a different cap. [TS]

00:58:11   Yeah we have some slightly smaller cups available and in the cover which I don't like to use for coffee [TS]

00:58:15   but we have them there. OK these are not the cups that I wanted to use. [TS]

00:58:19   Thank you I'm not going to meet up so I take out the cup. Now my wife has already gone off to work. [TS]

00:58:24   There was some coffee that was made. But I need to reheat it like I always do. [TS]

00:58:28   So I pour out some coffee into the slightly smaller cup put it in the microwave and I just put it on the normal time. [TS]

00:58:33   Same time every morning I know how much [TS]

00:58:35   or how much I want to microwave a coffee everything is always the same except this morning the cup is different now. [TS]

00:58:42   Seems like such a small thing doesn't it. But. [TS]

00:58:45   What you know about the property of fluids either super heating or super cooling yes. [TS]

00:58:51   Right so you can do this thing with fluids where if you put them in a very smooth container which this cup happens to [TS]

00:58:59   be where there's no cracks or nothing on the inside you can heat or cool them past their boiling or freezing point. [TS]

00:59:08   Yeah. [TS]

00:59:08   So that the the coolest one to see is [TS]

00:59:11   when things go past the freezing point where the water is colder than zero it should be frozen [TS]

00:59:16   but it isn't it still looks like water and then you just like tap it or you just drop a tiny piece of dust in it [TS]

00:59:22   and it kind of freezes almost instantaneously. [TS]

00:59:25   Yeah and then you have the reverse which is super heated fluid when it goes past the boiling point [TS]

00:59:32   but it doesn't boil because there's no little surface on the inside for any bubbles to start. [TS]

00:59:38   So now unbeknownst to me because the cup was slightly smaller because there was less fluid in the cup [TS]

00:59:44   but I was still using the same time that I always used to microwave my coffee which is what an hour microwave it is a [TS]

00:59:51   minute and thirty seconds. [TS]

00:59:52   Yeah but our microwave is ridiculously powerful even on its lowest setting [TS]

00:59:56   and it's just it's like a nuclear microwave power as I can. [TS]

01:00:00   What a power setting one [TS]

01:00:02   and everything still has to be cooked for less than two minutes it was like three minutes no I was going to just burst [TS]

01:00:07   into flames. So I put it in and out. [TS]

01:00:10   Here's where the whole morning my whole day and unbeknownst to me my whole week is about to change. [TS]

01:00:15   Yeah I reach in and take out the cup of coffee grab it in my left hand with my right hand [TS]

01:00:23   and take a spoon that I go to stir the coffee with just like every time little tiny spoon I put the little spoon in the [TS]

01:00:28   coffee and the fluid is super heated. This is the moment that it was waiting for. [TS]

01:00:33   If you haven't seen it it's very strange it's not like when when water boils that boils from the bottom [TS]

01:00:39   when something is super heated it boils from everywhere all of a sudden every point of it suddenly becomes a bubble of [TS]

01:00:47   steaming coffee at that age so pours all over my hand that I'm holding all over that like if you imagine you're holding [TS]

01:00:55   a cup of coffee in your hand the complete top of my hand down the back around my thumb over the webbing [TS]

01:01:01   and down my index finger and a tiny bit on my palm. Did you make any noise or say anything. [TS]

01:01:07   I cursed really loudly which word that it doesn't start with it was fuck you. [TS]

01:01:16   As I know I know for you this is this is terrifying for the broken history. [TS]

01:01:21   I need to ask you this happens to you because it happens to me I find it strange if I get hurt in a surprised way like [TS]

01:01:28   say Oh get up in the middle of the night you're stumbling into the bathroom and you smash your toe or something [TS]

01:01:34   or your shin against the wall. [TS]

01:01:36   Not only does it hurt but I find for maybe two or three seconds my brain just goes into Hulk mode. [TS]

01:01:44   It's like I'm not only hurt but I'm filled with in student rage and if you want to just smash [TS]

01:01:50   and destroy the wall that has dared dare to hurt me do you have the reaction. [TS]

01:01:55   Yeah I think I know your main I think is normal. Frank if you can I can. [TS]

01:02:00   Yeah it's not just our i'm hurt it's just it's like an outward projection. What is the thing that hurt me. [TS]

01:02:07   How can I possibly destroy it. [TS]

01:02:09   That must be some evolutionary thing that's going to some like some little five second pair up in case it was a mammoth [TS]

01:02:16   that jumped out from behind the cave to attack us [TS]

01:02:18   and yet it absolutely has to be that the only thing that makes sense or is it your body going. [TS]

01:02:23   Do we need to kill a tiger right now where her we don't know that if we don't know what it is. [TS]

01:02:31   But like all of the adrenaline just dumps into your system immediately [TS]

01:02:35   and so I had this exact same thing happen with me with the coffee where I was furious at the cop and [TS]

01:02:43   and reflectively just threw it against the wall which is not the best thing to do as well. [TS]

01:02:49   So there is to this day a kind of huge stain of coffee against one of the walls in our flat which is very frustrating [TS]

01:02:55   as hell but it rational of you. [TS]

01:02:57   Well this is this is this is also I find with these funny moments where you realize you're not as in control of your [TS]

01:03:03   mind as you think you are in these little these little reflexes like I think I could have no more. [TS]

01:03:07   Not thrown the coffee. [TS]

01:03:09   Then when the doctor hits your knee with a little hammer and your leg goes out [TS]

01:03:12   and it's like I don't do that it just it just happens. [TS]

01:03:17   Because on that ever happened the doctor got the hammer out and hit me on the NE. [TS]

01:03:21   Yeah I'd never believe that was a real thing. [TS]

01:03:23   I thought it was just something to have a really stunning Katherines when it really happened but I was also on. [TS]

01:03:29   How do you like five. You must know much older and I remember saying to happen before what is real. [TS]

01:03:36   It suddenly occurred to me I have no idea why the doctors do it do they just do it because it's funny not [TS]

01:03:40   and what can happen if there's any doctors to realize that what can there possibly be showing you're in good health I [TS]

01:03:46   have no idea we're going to possibly be you were saying there was a message to your story. [TS]

01:03:51   Well I'm going to get there and what if there's more to come. There's more to come. [TS]

01:03:57   Therefore it is not so I smashed a cup of coffee right. OK Don't don't don't let me stop you. [TS]

01:04:02   Whenever you burn yourself you decide to run cold water over it [TS]

01:04:05   and it immediately becomes apparent that this is not a normal burn right that this is this is a much worse burnt than [TS]

01:04:11   I've ever had before. I'm looking at my skin and thinking Oh that does not look that does not look good. [TS]

01:04:19   This does not look like normal burns to my head under the water. [TS]

01:04:22   As for as long as I can as long as I can and then I realized OK I need to figure out what's going on. [TS]

01:04:27   Go to my computer literate the Internet. [TS]

01:04:29   I need to find out about parents and let me tell you you will never realize how slow a fast computer is then [TS]

01:04:35   when your hand feels like it's on fire [TS]

01:04:38   and you're trying to look up information about burn injuries because it's like click Safari I want Safari open now [TS]

01:04:46   right not five dock bounces from now. [TS]

01:04:50   Right now I can't wait for it and then it's like loading up Google or what is the Adobe app data. [TS]

01:04:56   Or jar it felt like it took five minutes to get to the N.H.S. [TS]

01:05:02   This thing about about you have to reinstall acrobat to read document [TS]

01:05:07   or you know do you want to fill out a survey about our Web site [TS]

01:05:10   and how helpful you find a good know it's like I just need this information immediately [TS]

01:05:16   and the bottom line with the website told me you obviously have a second degree burn. [TS]

01:05:20   This is something you need to actually have someone take a look at it like is your hand blistering immediately. [TS]

01:05:25   Yes it's a second degree burn. [TS]

01:05:27   This is not a superficial burn you actually need to go into the hospital so great now I'm going to the hospital you [TS]

01:05:31   went to hospital. Yeah I went to the act in an emergency and you didn't tell me this. Was I supposed to tell you this. [TS]

01:05:40   Yes but I'm supposed to treat you from the hospital or something. [TS]

01:05:45   Oh ye ye not totally [TS]

01:05:47   but you should have sent me a message at some point we need to be down to get my mate went to hospital for the first [TS]

01:05:52   time on a podcast I went to Accident and Emergency and then I was like in a coma and went to X. and Emerge. [TS]

01:05:58   If you were in a coma. Even not contacting me. [TS]

01:06:04   What were you going to do we're going to come down from from Bristol and tell [TS]

01:06:09   and like help to you tell you makes these things when you get second degree burns and go to the hospital. [TS]

01:06:16   I'm so I was a little preoccupied at the time. Oh we didn't have to tell me like at the time. [TS]

01:06:22   Well I know I have to and as and when I was busy later later things are busy [TS]

01:06:26   but at the time I was I wasn't thinking about the stuff my wife didn't find out until she came home from work like what [TS]

01:06:30   was she going to do. [TS]

01:06:32   We come home from work now there's nothing she can do I'm just going to undergo an accident or murder. [TS]

01:06:36   What did she tell you off for not telling her. [TS]

01:06:40   Sort of yeah the debate she did then but then she realized that I was I was correct that there was going to an idiot. [TS]

01:06:50   Gave it up I feel like we're getting derailed. [TS]

01:06:55   So we're going to act in an emergency [TS]

01:06:59   and what I'm hoping is happening there is I've been to I've been there before with my wife [TS]

01:07:03   or some other things they have like three level of tree I was a doctor and I'm hoping that I just get there [TS]

01:07:08   and they look at this and go Oh you big baby. Just go home right. Just a bad burn you know. [TS]

01:07:13   Don't waste our time with this. [TS]

01:07:15   But no unfortunately each level of trios person looks at [TS]

01:07:18   and goes to the next level of person needs to look at this you can't go home yet. [TS]

01:07:23   So anyway I ended up spending like three hours at a NE going through various street levels until I saw the doctor a [TS]

01:07:30   person who was like yup that's a bad burn like not bad enough for a skin graft [TS]

01:07:33   but bad enough that we need to look at and they gave me some painkillers in the bandages up [TS]

01:07:38   and so I ended up with a bandage across all of my thumb and my finger in the palm of my hand [TS]

01:07:44   and just is totally useless and that felt like it was on fire all the time [TS]

01:07:49   and you know as a little side note here I've ever tried to meditate. [TS]

01:07:54   BRADY You know I have I have been attempting to do that and. It meditation meditation but something called mindfulness. [TS]

01:08:03   Over the past couple of months not very successfully I have to say what's wrong with me that I've been trying to do [TS]

01:08:09   meditation. It's just not the man I used to know. Well here's here's the thing This sounds to me like just craziness. [TS]

01:08:15   Mindfulness and meditation this is we can get off on a whole different topic on the some point [TS]

01:08:19   but I have heard from enough people that I trust who are also very successful get stuff done kind of people that this [TS]

01:08:23   is a thing worth trying [TS]

01:08:24   and so I'm always up for trying stuff if if enough reliable people tell me about it so I thought OK I'll give this a [TS]

01:08:29   try. [TS]

01:08:29   But so in mindfulness there's this thing that you're supposed to do to kind of become aware of which is that thoughts [TS]

01:08:35   and sensation are like appearances in consciousness and to detach yourself from them. So as they go. [TS]

01:08:43   Breathing is happening I'm aware that breathing is happening [TS]

01:08:47   but you don't think of it as like I am the one who is breathing. [TS]

01:08:50   You're just aware of this thing and you like distance yourself from it and so [TS]

01:08:55   when I burn my hand I thought for a moment I like OK this incredible pain like it's an object in my consciousness [TS]

01:09:02   but I can disassociate from it. Nope you are totally worthless to me right now mindfulness practice goodbye. [TS]

01:09:08   I do not have time for this. Yesterday I was Dr please give me that pain killer right now and you know the wrong way. [TS]

01:09:15   You don't need mindfulness and you know whatever crystal balls [TS]

01:09:19   and just candles you know what you need to be hard as nails. [TS]

01:09:26   He's going to think they had is now what would Brady day he'd be hard as nails. [TS]

01:09:30   Yeah yeah well what would you do just just look firmly into the horizon under pressure to spill [TS]

01:09:37   or do what you going to do a doctor and don't even tell me just do it. [TS]

01:09:41   Just fix it fix it so I go back to work I had to I had to do something while sitting around an axe an emergency for a [TS]

01:09:48   while you know it was like I want to do all that mindfulness [TS]

01:09:50   and then all I'm doing is in there for a couple of seconds [TS]

01:09:54   and realize immediately that's totally worthless in my situation I somehow only he didn't tell me this happened please. [TS]

01:10:00   No me you didn't tell me because you want to save it for the podcast. No I honestly just didn't come up. [TS]

01:10:06   It was not relevant to any of our conversation because you should just tell me. [TS]

01:10:12   OK I told you what my wife had a haircut. [TS]

01:10:16   Yeah that was that was interesting it was because I think it was not there was nothing you could have done to help with [TS]

01:10:24   the situation. Oh I'm not saying I couldn't help but write fun fun in that way. [TS]

01:10:30   I'm not being I'm not being anyway just I honestly just didn't it just didn't cross my mind. [TS]

01:10:35   I'm sorry I will try to have it. I'm going to start sending you all kinds of stuff. [TS]

01:10:38   Millet you know I'm doing every day. You don't have to tell me everything you do. [TS]

01:10:43   We just need to have a line and I think going to X. [TS]

01:10:46   In an emergency with a bent hand it gets bandaged up crosses the line of talk to my mates at some point it's like you [TS]

01:10:55   know OK I'll try to keep that in mind in the future [TS]

01:10:59   but it was it was a it was also he threw it like if you send me something you didn't need to tell me. [TS]

01:11:05   OK and I together together I would teach you to see where the where the line [TS]

01:11:12   and I would teach you where the line is of what you tell your friends. Do you want to know when my wife gets a haircut. [TS]

01:11:18   If it's you know maybe if it's an interesting one. [TS]

01:11:22   OK if it's like you know I'm a radical departure the radical argument is you know she's had a haircut it's really you [TS]

01:11:28   know she's changed color it's very different now. OK That's interesting. [TS]

01:11:34   All right well no essential that's not essential. OK that's that's that's that depends. [TS]

01:11:40   All right but but [TS]

01:11:41   but hospitalization is definitely the other side of the law on the Get hospitalization is greatly over exaggerating the [TS]

01:11:49   story that is a visit to accident emergency that's what it was. OK anyway. [TS]

01:11:55   Anyway the bottom line the moral of the story is never change your routines. That's the moral of the story. [TS]

01:12:01   Don't let even the slightest thing the slightest thing be different because one tiny difference a different cup of [TS]

01:12:09   coffee ended up with me having a hand at fifty percent operational capacity for about a week during one of the busiest [TS]

01:12:18   times that I currently have [TS]

01:12:20   and I'm still actually quite worried about it because even though it's like trying to feel the doctor gave me this. [TS]

01:12:26   Here's the thing you never want to hear from a doctor. Side IT side note here. [TS]

01:12:29   Oh by the way when it's healing all that skin it might turn totally brown [TS]

01:12:35   and just kind of sloshed off that don't worry about that. It's fine if it turns dark brown. [TS]

01:12:40   That's OK that's supposed to happen don't worry you don't need to come back for that. But oh OK. [TS]

01:12:45   Like if it gets deeply infected though like yours you might need to come back for that. [TS]

01:12:49   But you've got to watch all those blisters because they could get infected like you might die. [TS]

01:12:54   Great OK But yeah so a very slight change in my daily routine led to basically like. [TS]

01:13:00   A week and possibly much much longer of limited capacity with one hand it is very frustrating. [TS]

01:13:07   All because of the different coffeecup so never change anything. Keep everything the same every day. [TS]

01:13:12   Well obviously that is not the moral of the story and that is the moral of the story. [TS]

01:13:16   The moral of the story is when you haven't got cups [TS]

01:13:18   and plates for breakfast go to McDonald's Sausage McMuffin the sauces with muffins are good [TS]

01:13:24   and partial to the sausage egg bagel I like that one. [TS]

01:13:29   Now I don't want to go I have to Sausage McMuffin with no wake No Aggie no egg that's now you have to have no egg [TS]

01:13:36   and you know I didn't ate any eggs until possibly until I was in my thirty's I didn't like it like I said I don't like [TS]

01:13:45   eggs and I would just never have eggs and then one day my wife said how can you not like eggs everyone like eggs [TS]

01:13:50   and I'm like I don't like eggs and she said just humor me. [TS]

01:13:52   Just have this egg and I had and I was like actually it's not that bad. So now I. [TS]

01:14:00   Bags I realise they're OK but but I don't like the mustaches McMuffin like half of my diet must be eggs [TS]

01:14:08   and even just a breakfast sandwich is not a breakfast sandwich. If it doesn't have an egg on I've I really have eggs. [TS]

01:14:15   If your breakfast sandwich doesn't have an egg that is an abomination in the eyes of God like that that shouldn't be [TS]

01:14:21   allowed to happen you have to have an egg on your breakfast sandwich down to a great oh you're just wrong you must [TS]

01:14:28   wrong. [TS]

01:14:28   Well we're going to we're going to have some fisticuffs if we're ever having breakfast sandwiches together I'll tell [TS]

01:14:34   you that. Horses for courses one way when you have a new breakfast which is so now. [TS]

01:14:40   Well thank you for telling me a story that you should have told me much saner. I'm sorry I didn't tell you sooner. [TS]

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01:16:22   notes but we should mention you just reminded me of it then I'm obviously following. [TS]

01:16:28   We talked about serial the pod cast [TS]

01:16:32   and obviously you know American legislators have buckled under the pressure of gray saying that he thinks an onside the [TS]

01:16:43   convicted murderer is in fact innocent and they've granted him an appeal did you say. [TS]

01:16:49   Well again I think you are overstating my case there is the idea that it was you it was like you know I see G.P. [TS]

01:16:56   Grey is spoken I think I could I could not have uttered a more timid statements about the chance of him not having [TS]

01:17:03   committed that murder on the last pod cast than what I did so to portray him as though I'm like oh yeah. [TS]

01:17:09   Dude's totally innocent is not even remotely accurate. [TS]

01:17:12   This again this is the conversations has become their extremes this is another example suddenly I was never going to do [TS]

01:17:18   Joe He almost I don't seriously think that anyone has buckled under the pressure of using anything I know that as I [TS]

01:17:24   said I was I was more concerned about your misrepresentation of my position. [TS]

01:17:28   Obviously legislators should probably don't listen to the hello internet podcast but I had I had not heard of that. [TS]

01:17:36   So he's getting a retrial [TS]

01:17:38   or is it just on a lot of them as I reach out because I don't understand how the system works [TS]

01:17:42   and he's got something which is getting people excited thinking he might get off. [TS]

01:17:47   I can't believe you have and say you know everyone was tweeting us and e-mailing us [TS]

01:17:50   and you really are blocking people out I knew I had I had a very conscious no Twitter policy for about a week or so [TS]

01:17:59   when I was just. I can't afford any kind of distractions. [TS]

01:18:02   That's why when I was when you asked me before about the planes [TS]

01:18:04   and things like I was just totally offline like might as well have been in a cabin in the woods offline that's why I'm [TS]

01:18:11   particularly uninformed this week about everything so I know that well if you don't know and did not wake up [TS]

01:18:18   and check the news on my phone first thing in bed as I'm supposed to do I guess nine need to you do what you want to do [TS]

01:18:26   I do. [TS]

01:18:26   You have written here that you want to talk about what you described as half assed as I say [TS]

01:18:35   or you Chub Asiri as you would say you have a story I was wondering should we do it [TS]

01:18:42   or should we save it for next time because I think this could be a lot of fun [TS]

01:18:46   and we did talk a lot about You Tube in the last podcast and we have never we've never liked taste for next time. [TS]

01:18:53   On how the Internet I think is a this is a chance to do that now is a terrible idea it is build up people's [TS]

01:18:59   expectations that you can't possibly meet you don't tease future stuff on podcasts. That's terrible. [TS]

01:19:04   People say where is that rule written that that's the rule of how humans work. [TS]

01:19:09   People go oh boy I can't wait to see it what it would do kill this thing to say it's all almost all media is predicated [TS]

01:19:16   on this idea of teasing what's coming next time. Do I know television I know that that's what television does. [TS]

01:19:23   But but [TS]

01:19:24   and I'm not saying it isn't affected to get people to listen to next time I'm much more concerned about people's reactions [TS]

01:19:31   when they actually get to the next time your son worried about that you're so worried about I don't want [TS]

01:19:37   or they will lose expectations yet because it's great to exceed expectations. [TS]

01:19:43   You don't want to be constantly missing expectations oh boy next week Boy do we have a topic for you [TS]

01:19:48   and that is that you would be talking about whatever again. [TS]

01:19:50   That's no good of course is going to be you and I talk about whatever that's what this whole podcast is [TS]

01:19:54   but I don't think saying We'll talk about You Tube faster next time. [TS]

01:20:00   It's like raising expectations that it's going to be disliked seminal moment in podcasting history it's just saying [TS]

01:20:07   here's something we'll talk about next time because we've run out of time this time you could have asked three people [TS]

01:20:11   will just imagine it's whatever they want us to talk about that they think is half assed with You Tube [TS]

01:20:15   and it's like the thing that was talked about is such a minor thing it's almost certainly not what anybody's thinking [TS]

01:20:19   of just just like with Amazon products like I I'm looking it up boy I can't wait to get my next Kindle. [TS]

01:20:24   Nope no Kindle for you you can't compare me saying Oh you've put something here about let's talk about that next time [TS]

01:20:31   with like a multimillion dollar Amazon marketing campaign. [TS]

01:20:34   I certainly can it's the same principle it's sort of like like oh my oh my You Tube videos I made some reference to how [TS]

01:20:41   I'm not going to do the Settlers of Catan video because it was boring [TS]

01:20:45   and now I can really never do it because people ask me all the time I want to do the Settlers of Catan video that's [TS]

01:20:49   going to be amazing. That will be your BEST BEST VIDEO EVER as I know I can't possibly do that video. [TS]

01:20:55   It'll never be as good as you think it will be it is going to be super boring now because you think it's going to be [TS]

01:21:00   amazing. Now you do this all the time every time you make a video to us to me. [TS]

01:21:04   Oh this one's not very good this time I'm not very happy with this one and it goes really well [TS]

01:21:07   and gets like a million two million views [TS]

01:21:09   and you look at all of those good luck I mean I'm I'm immune to you doing that now. [TS]

01:21:13   Like when you so when you video is not very good I'm just like whatever just put it out. Don't even tell me. [TS]

01:21:19   I well first of all I don't do that with all the videos. Yeah. [TS]

01:21:22   So I told him you made a video where you said to me Do you know what Brady. [TS]

01:21:26   My next video is going to blow people away that's how good it is I guarantee ten million views you're flipping is [TS]

01:21:32   around. [TS]

01:21:32   All I'm saying is I don't complain to you about every video I'm not saying there are videos that I hype up to you about [TS]

01:21:39   how I was going to if I want to I think you do get played at every video before I don't I don't think I did that with a [TS]

01:21:44   lot of the Rings part one I don't think I do think I simply didn't mention it to you Lord Of The Rings part two I did [TS]

01:21:50   complain to you about how I was unhappy with it [TS]

01:21:53   and I will I will totally I will tell them if you sign over their whole totally grant that [TS]

01:21:57   but why would I ever send you a letter. Oh boy. This next video is going to totally blow people away. [TS]

01:22:03   I'm not saying you would seek me out to brag but we do talk about what you're working on. [TS]

01:22:08   Briefly and what's coming up next. [TS]

01:22:10   Sometimes you do it you can usually tell me what the next thing is about and what I tell you [TS]

01:22:16   when I get to the animation phase because I always feel like it's too late to turn back now that that's if I'm telling [TS]

01:22:22   you something almost certainly I'm animating it because that is the point of no return [TS]

01:22:26   and I couldn't stop even if I wanted to donate to be so secretive you know would you friends. [TS]

01:22:32   It well you know we talked about this before but I think this is going to I don't think. [TS]

01:22:37   OK Everybody in my life is hugely frustrated that I don't tell them what I'm working on. [TS]

01:22:41   Except for my wife who is just learned and she that she doesn't ask me any more about what I'm working on. [TS]

01:22:45   You can even tell you why. OK now I don't I don't I almost never tell my wife what I'm working on. [TS]

01:22:52   Again I would like to have that because my wife isn't that interested but I try to. [TS]

01:22:57   Like I like that were an awful situation. [TS]

01:23:01   So if your wife doesn't want to hear it from time I think I think about PA You never really want to know [TS]

01:23:08   and I don't sell or I have found I swear we've talked about this before but we're just old men now. [TS]

01:23:15   I don't tell people it's not out of secrecy and everybody thinks like oh I want to keep a secret. [TS]

01:23:22   That's not what it is. I don't just like my morning routines I just know they have to go right. [TS]

01:23:28   Otherwise the date doesn't go well. [TS]

01:23:30   I also find that if I talk about projects ahead of the point of no return it somehow ends up being really demotivating [TS]

01:23:40   to me to continue to work on those projects and I don't know why that is I just find that that's the case. [TS]

01:23:47   So it's not that I'm trying to like oh I can't tell anybody not even my wife because she might run to my You Tube [TS]

01:23:52   competitors and tell them what I'm working on. [TS]

01:23:54   That's not what it is about you know what it is what it is you like the theater you like the big. [TS]

01:24:00   I reveal you like you because you say you've been a show off. That's OK That's good you want to do that why Terry. [TS]

01:24:07   That's why just this if you know I don't like what you did just that this is exactly you you feel like a bit of a show [TS]

01:24:14   off and you project this on me and I'm sitting here thinking you could not have me more wrong. [TS]

01:24:19   It is nothing to do with being a final note evading because you wouldn't get the river the reveal [TS]

01:24:23   and the reaction anymore. That is nothing on it that has nothing to do with it. It couldn't be further from the truth. [TS]

01:24:30   Tell me what motivates you have people know let your friends know what you're working on I don't know why I feel like [TS]

01:24:36   just talking with my wife is my explanation not acceptable. [TS]

01:24:41   OK just because I can't explain the internal state of my mind doesn't mean that your arbitrary assessment of it is [TS]

01:24:46   automatically correct doesn't mean it's automatically correct [TS]

01:24:49   but it doesn't mean you can't rule it out if you can give me an alternative. [TS]

01:24:52   I mean I guess I can rule it out because I don't feel any joy about o'boy whipping away the veil of secrecy here [TS]

01:24:59   and everybody can look at the amazing thing that I create I don't feel that way at all than have released a video. [TS]

01:25:05   Mostly I mostly feel oh God I hope I didn't do something incredibly stupid that I'm about to hear about from millions [TS]

01:25:11   of people who know where everyone feels that that's that's that's that's a parallel emotion with releasing anything. [TS]

01:25:19   Yeah but but so I don't feel like I'm releasing this as a source. I just I find it. [TS]

01:25:26   I don't know I mean I feel it's I'm trying to articulate this it's almost like talking about it somehow. [TS]

01:25:34   HOWELL limits it in my mind it makes it possibly be fewer things it leaves me less free to think about oh how do I want [TS]

01:25:40   to work on this. [TS]

01:25:42   I'm just totally aware that that projects I have talked about before they reach a certain point are much more likely to [TS]

01:25:49   be projects that just die that end up going nowhere. [TS]

01:25:52   This happened in Alabama where much against my policy we were sitting around the table I talked about the thing that I [TS]

01:25:57   was currently working on at the time and I think just now. [TS]

01:26:00   We came to be and I was kind of aware that I talked about it and [TS]

01:26:06   when I got back from Alabama I felt like I just had much less interest in continuing to work on that project [TS]

01:26:11   and I like it had a huge pile of notes in a bunch of things written and it was just you know maybe next year [TS]

01:26:17   or something and it just kind of died with it on the vine and I don't know why [TS]

01:26:20   and it's just you are a complicated enigma wrapped in a mystery [TS]

01:26:25   and all that stuff you know I think you know I think it's a very well you're a wound up complicated bowl of conflicted [TS]

01:26:33   we you know there's no no there's no conflict. It's very simple. [TS]

01:26:37   And that's why I just and I don't talk about stuff that I'm working on. [TS]

01:26:40   It's very simple there's no I realize I realize that outside a simple I just went totally [TS]

01:26:45   but I'm saying what's what's driving under the surface. Sounds complicated. [TS]

01:26:49   The internal part is simple as well it's just well if I if I talk about stuff before it's done I just don't feel like [TS]

01:26:57   working on it as much anymore no that doesn't count as the underlying reasoning that's the outward manifestation. [TS]

01:27:02   EVA What's the what's under there. What's what's why is that the case. [TS]

01:27:07   That's the complexity you just as you could just ask in nonsense questions now you know you know you do. [TS]

01:27:13   Let's let's try to delve into your subconscious is just that's just nonsense you know I don't want to be subconscious [TS]

01:27:19   or you just tell me. But you said yourself you can articulate it. [TS]

01:27:25   Yeah but that doesn't that doesn't mean that there's something deeper than that. [TS]

01:27:28   This is this is a bit like a tape with this you know this is honestly like this is a bit like if I was trying to ask [TS]

01:27:36   you a deeper question about why you don't like eggs on your breakfast sandwiches you know what you just don't. [TS]

01:27:42   There's something deeper about this the way it is right and I like [TS]

01:27:47   or know Brady there you're a mystery wrapped in an enigma wrapped in an Egg McMuffin like it just doesn't there's [TS]

01:27:54   nothing there. Instant Macand he said it's just things just are this is like. I will talk about this people I think. [TS]

01:28:02   I find human interest in things really interesting. [TS]

01:28:08   It's totally unexplainable why people are interested in stuff like human interest is sort of self self validating I [TS]

01:28:18   think is the way that I would put it where people like to make fun of somebody else for being really into a thing I [TS]

01:28:24   feel like no no they're just interested in it. There's no real X. Plane crashes. That's just who he is. [TS]

01:28:29   Yeah like I think it's weird but you know you're just interested in that and it doesn't it doesn't need any reason. [TS]

01:28:35   It is its own thing [TS]

01:28:37   and I find it interesting to think about like why don't certain things interest me stuff that seems like it totally [TS]

01:28:45   should. [TS]

01:28:46   Sometimes just completely misses the mark with me [TS]

01:28:48   and there's no there's no explaining I think I really should have been interested in nothing [TS]

01:28:53   but I'm just I'm just not it just seems totally arbitrary [TS]

01:28:56   and you don't go looking for some kind of deeper explanation and deeper reasoning about oh. [TS]

01:29:02   You know why don't I like sports games [TS]

01:29:04   and Brady does you know gray just because you don't go looking for it doesn't mean it's not there [TS]

01:29:10   and I think there are interesting things underlying most things [TS]

01:29:13   and I am certain there are interesting things underlying For example why you don't like talking about your videos [TS]

01:29:20   before you put them out and just because you don't want to talk about it [TS]

01:29:23   or just because you cannot And just because I have no idea because on the dumbest [TS]

01:29:26   and I got no idea doesn't mean it's not there and it's not interesting. It just means we're not talking about it. [TS]

01:29:35   I don't even understand what you're saying so I just I just hear words [TS]

01:29:38   and I don't know I will answer your questions as honestly as I possibly can about my work habits [TS]

01:29:44   but there's there's just nothing to be it just is at a certain level the brain is where your mind is an emergent [TS]

01:29:53   property of electrochemistry like there's no there's no it's like. [TS]

01:30:00   Having a why does gravity operate the way that it does that at a certain stage you just get to well that's the [TS]

01:30:04   structure of the universe which is just like saying the way we have it there is always another reason there is always [TS]

01:30:09   something interesting on the knife. [TS]

01:30:11   There isn't a No there is a toll with us and keeps digging deeper does try to find out why gravity works. [TS]

01:30:17   Yeah you have that to just give up and say it's just the way it is. [TS]

01:30:20   That is allowed and everyone has a different point at which they give up.. [TS]

01:30:25   Some people give up at understanding how a car works at turning the K. Other people want to know how the engine works. [TS]

01:30:32   Other people want to know why the petrol explodes. [TS]

01:30:35   Other people want to know what the picture was made of and the atoms and other people want to know how the atoms work. [TS]

01:30:41   Everyone gives up at a different level at doesn't mean there's nothing below it just means you've stopped talking about [TS]

01:30:46   it. I'm not saying that there is. When you're talking about why do people think that's the way they do. [TS]

01:30:53   I'm not saying that there isn't some kind of underlying explanation that you think the better way to put it is to say [TS]

01:31:00   that there is no understandable underlying explanation right that to describe the process that is occurring in the [TS]

01:31:10   physical structure of the brain that leads to particular outcomes is very likely to be just non understandable to a [TS]

01:31:20   human brain or the like and you think the reason we are not talking about your videos falls into that category. [TS]

01:31:27   The real thing is I have noticed this connection. [TS]

01:31:30   If I talk about things before they reach a certain point then I find that I am much less interested in much less able [TS]

01:31:36   to work on them. [TS]

01:31:37   This is like a thing that I have discovered just by watching how I work [TS]

01:31:41   and the reaction to things over time is like one of the interesting things about being self employed that I find is you [TS]

01:31:46   have to kind of constantly see how things work out [TS]

01:31:49   and this is one of the patterns among many that I have noticed which is one of the reasons why if I like I am getting [TS]

01:31:54   better at being a self employed person over the years because I'm more aware of these kinds of patterns. [TS]

01:32:00   So I'm old and I don't believe we were unexplainable. [TS]

01:32:04   I'm aware that this pattern exists [TS]

01:32:08   and what you're asking is for an explanation of why do I find it harder to work on something after I have spoken about [TS]

01:32:17   it. [TS]

01:32:17   Yeah [TS]

01:32:18   and at this point I'm not able to articulate anything like as big as we're having this conversation I am not I'm not [TS]

01:32:24   able to adequately articulate it [TS]

01:32:26   and it may just be that we're at a kind of bottom level for the ability for the brain to understand itself like so I [TS]

01:32:34   can notice a pattern [TS]

01:32:36   and if we delve down into the electrochemistry of the brain we may be able to discover why this is the case [TS]

01:32:44   but I'm not sure there's any like meaningful human conversation to be had at this level. [TS]

01:32:49   I believe you I believe you that you can articulate it and you don't even know yourself. [TS]

01:32:53   But I don't believe we've reached the bottom yet I don't believe we've reached the electro chemical level here. [TS]

01:32:59   OK well I know you like are probably smart enough paper that we've got all that's actually quite an explainable [TS]

01:33:03   phenomenon and the reason is X. Y. and Zed. [TS]

01:33:06   He's got he's this kind of personality and he does that this happens and it's explainable. [TS]

01:33:11   I don't believe we've reached I don't believe we've reached the machine code yet of you in saying that I don't like [TS]

01:33:17   talking about which I have a few levels away. [TS]

01:33:19   What you've done there is I mean you can tell a story about it [TS]

01:33:22   but that's very different from you know knowing that the story is accurate. [TS]

01:33:26   I mean you know you give you give people any kind of thing [TS]

01:33:28   and they'll start talking to telling a story about how it's all connected I mean that's that what all of psychology [TS]

01:33:34   nonsense is kind of based on you know who can tell the story about there was lots of people could give lots of [TS]

01:33:39   different reasons and obviously only one of them can be right but I think one of them is right. [TS]

01:33:44   But this graphically I find it really interesting that from my perspective you seem to be like a machine that just [TS]

01:33:49   likes to work all the time on videos that you just make a huge number of videos from from our conversations I think it [TS]

01:33:56   is no doubt that you spend a larger number of just. [TS]

01:34:00   RAH hours per day sitting at your computer editing it Avid or working in Photoshop directly on some project [TS]

01:34:08   and they'll probably like no comparison to the amount of time I spend writing [TS]

01:34:11   or animating versus the amount of time that you spend working on videos. [TS]

01:34:15   Yeah so then my question would be why do you sit at the computer for as long as you do working on these things. [TS]

01:34:23   OK Well your answer would be it can't be explained it's just the chemical in an actual answer is I don't know if I know [TS]

01:34:34   how to articulate as well but I'm sure it's explainable. Is that the best you can give me. [TS]

01:34:41   I get pleasure from creation and the and making things and the more things I create and make the more pleasure I get [TS]

01:34:50   and the only way that I can make lots of things is to spend lots of time making things because I can't just pull them [TS]

01:34:56   out of the sky. I have to actually make them. [TS]

01:34:58   So the reason I spend so much time sitting here editing in a photo shop [TS]

01:35:03   and in my computer programs is not because I am not because I love sitting at my desk [TS]

01:35:08   and writing cooped up in a room it's because I want to create more things right. [TS]

01:35:13   You want to you want to have that moment of the reveal of showing people the thing that you've made. [TS]

01:35:18   Yeah I mean it's not like it's not around about you know pulling back the violet ever [TS]

01:35:24   and it's a big you also surprised [TS]

01:35:26   and amazed that I could do this like I don't think I'm amazing people I make I just like the act I just like creating [TS]

01:35:32   things and you're always hoping everything's going to be a front page story I know that for sure. [TS]

01:35:37   You know I mean I've got past the point where I think everything's going to be successful [TS]

01:35:40   but as long as as long as people say [TS]

01:35:43   and get enjoyment from I get enjoyment I get I get massive enjoyment from findings finding out something [TS]

01:35:49   and knowing something and then telling that to other people and that's what I do through my video if I meet someone [TS]

01:35:55   and i told me some half interesting thing about chemistry or mathematics. [TS]

01:36:00   I can't wait to tell other people that think and the way that I tell other people is through a video I make that [TS]

01:36:05   and you know X. Number of thousand people will watch. [TS]

01:36:08   So you like making videos because you like telling people new things. [TS]

01:36:13   Yeah I like that I get I get pleasure from this the act of creation and the act of informing. [TS]

01:36:19   OK so why do you get pleasure from the act of creation. [TS]

01:36:26   I don't know that I don't know [TS]

01:36:29   but it like that I think is where we hit kind of like a rock bottom line is our level everything I don't agree with I [TS]

01:36:36   don't think we're anywhere near rock bottom where entering the realm of things that are very difficult [TS]

01:36:42   and you can start getting into things like you know legacy did you have legacy issues do you have ego issues do you [TS]

01:36:51   have attention issues do you have that there are other positive creative people are just filled with issues. [TS]

01:36:59   These things aren't necessarily negative some people some people who crave attention. [TS]

01:37:04   Accomplish great things but right you know there are we are getting into complex things [TS]

01:37:10   and we're getting into personal things and therefore it becomes not only does it become difficult to grasp [TS]

01:37:16   and you know grapple with in our brain. [TS]

01:37:18   It also starts getting personal to a point where you don't want to start discussing on a podcast because it might you [TS]

01:37:23   know delve into your issues and psyche and things that you think a personal thing doesn't mean they don't exist [TS]

01:37:32   and it's a copout to say they can't be explained. [TS]

01:37:34   Machine code whatever chemicals you know when I when is that I'm not even sure what this conversation is anymore. [TS]

01:37:45   None of them are got no idea. But next week after all I'm on hello internet. [TS]

01:37:50   We will discuss You Tube faster if you will talk about You Tube and you have to do that. [TS]

01:37:58   Why did you think you were just going to let the people down. It's not anything people it's nothing it's nothing. [TS]