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00:00:00   Did you say Audrey on Good Morning America. [TS]

00:00:02   Well you instant message me a link of Audrey on Good Morning America was just as if you coulda just said Yeah I did it [TS]

00:00:12   but everybody's good and everybody I have a very interesting last couple of weeks but I can't wait to tell you about. [TS]

00:00:21   But [TS]

00:00:21   but first we have to talk about this issue of interesting times because obviously in the last podcast I referred to interesting [TS]

00:00:29   times in relation to an anecdote that I won't even bother Rico and blue moon [TS]

00:00:35   and I've since found that I have always been using that incorrectly. [TS]

00:00:39   I mean I was always under the impression that to live in interesting times was a good thing [TS]

00:00:44   but it turns out I've been told by numerous correspondents that to say to someone may you live in interesting times is [TS]

00:00:52   like a curse or wishing something bad upon them. [TS]

00:00:56   How did you know this like it was this it was this news to you would you have painted my camp before this. [TS]

00:01:02   OK so I thought maybe you live in interesting times was like the story goes that the king asks one of his advisors to [TS]

00:01:11   to make something that will. [TS]

00:01:13   He wants an object that will make him happy when he is sad and it will make him sad when he is happy [TS]

00:01:19   and the advisor goes off and then comes back and he brings the king a ring and the ring has inscribed upon it. [TS]

00:01:26   This too shall pass that phrase this too shall pass I think of as like a negating phrase kind of always has the [TS]

00:01:35   opposite meaning you know you can tell someone who said that [TS]

00:01:38   and you can also tell someone who is happy that it induces the opposite eye I thought shall you live in interesting [TS]

00:01:45   times was was something like kind of like that where it can have multiple meanings depending on the context in which it [TS]

00:01:52   is used. I didn't realize it supposed to be a curse with my definition is not good news. Nobody wants. [TS]

00:02:00   As I sort of are you a fan of the T.V. [TS]

00:02:02   Series yes minister or yes prime minister two different series once a sequel to the other. [TS]

00:02:07   Do you watch them or are you familiar with them. I am familiar with them. [TS]

00:02:11   I tried to watch yes minister and I couldn't quite get into it [TS]

00:02:15   but I know you'd like I would have thought it would appeal to you. I think oh that wasn't in the mood. [TS]

00:02:20   But I'm very open to trying it at some point in the future. [TS]

00:02:23   Anyway the reason I bring it up was it does remind me there's a there's a phrase that's made famous by that show where [TS]

00:02:29   the civil servant who's always trying to manipulate the politician was always say to the politician. [TS]

00:02:35   That's a very courageous decision minister which obviously sounds like a compliment [TS]

00:02:40   but over the next the minister think oh hang on. Wisely courageous. Is it going to cause me a problem. [TS]

00:02:45   Right [TS]

00:02:46   and I think we see interesting times has that sort of sounds like a nice thing oh I hope everything is interesting for [TS]

00:02:51   you when really you know it would be interesting if your car filled out to Cinco [TS]

00:02:56   and you had you know fell off a cliff and you know that it would necessarily be good. Interesting. [TS]

00:03:02   So anyway it did remind me of a boring Brady anecdote and I know you love the I do I love the cut the use. [TS]

00:03:09   Yes So let me give you a boring Brady [TS]

00:03:11   and the cat which is to do with not understanding sayings this is one of my favorite voices. [TS]

00:03:20   I'm just doing if you stretches it if I can feel you're winding up over there. So here we go. [TS]

00:03:28   I used to work for the Guy Code Marko who was really top guy. [TS]

00:03:32   Still a really good friend although I don't I don't get to see him or speak to him nearly enough. [TS]

00:03:36   Very smart very bright and [TS]

00:03:38   but also a guy that you know we liked we like giving each other a hard time as well that kind of friendship right. [TS]

00:03:44   So we had we had a debate in the office where we worked about the origins of the saying a loose cannon. [TS]

00:03:53   Well you know he or she is bit of a loose cannon. [TS]

00:03:56   Now obviously I think most people know what that saying means you know. [TS]

00:04:00   One who is the Vatican can do what they do you can potentially be quite damaging to those around them with that kind of [TS]

00:04:06   even meaning to. Do you have do you have a view or an opinion on the origin of this of this term. [TS]

00:04:13   When you say loose cannon my mental image is a pirate ship with a cannon that is unhinged in some way. [TS]

00:04:20   And what why is this a problem that the canon is not sturdily bolted down [TS]

00:04:24   and so in the the waves it can maybe end up pointing to the inside of the ship and firing [TS]

00:04:30   and causing a huge amount of problems. So that's kind of my mental image. OK that is completely reasonable. [TS]

00:04:38   But this was this was this was Michael's position as well. [TS]

00:04:41   He imagined a cannon not properly secured and therefore firing indiscriminately and not knowing what it might hit [TS]

00:04:49   and what it might damage which very much matches what what they're saying he's a bit of a loose cannon lanes. [TS]

00:04:56   I was of the view that in fact it's a bit more subtle than that. [TS]

00:04:59   What it is is if you can and on the ship is not properly secured [TS]

00:05:03   when you go into a storm it will start rolling in moving around the deck and then just the sheer weight [TS]

00:05:09   and mass of the cannon itself will start hitting hitting walls and hitting things and causing damage to your ship [TS]

00:05:16   and that is why your cannons need to be well secured that the subtlety being it has nothing to do with the firing of [TS]

00:05:22   the cannon. That's not that's not the issue here. [TS]

00:05:25   In my case the problem is just the movement of this huge big weighty thing right. [TS]

00:05:30   Causes a problem on your ship which was the origin. Now this was a this was a long running debate between us. [TS]

00:05:37   Exciting but it's one of the this is the sort of stuff you love like this kind of minutiae of factual data. [TS]

00:05:46   The thing that's funny the thing that's funny though is two people have a disagreement like that now. [TS]

00:05:51   Like that seems funny doesn't it because this could be resolved in seconds. [TS]

00:05:55   Yeah I've already pulled up a page it's all about the phrase loose cannon as you're talking. Exactly but. [TS]

00:06:00   This was at a time when the Internet was truly in its infancy [TS]

00:06:04   and the use of the internet for something like this was not possible this is this was an option so we were doing what [TS]

00:06:09   our fashion journalist what we were finding linguistic experts at universities and trying to get hold of books [TS]

00:06:17   and articles and it became this big debate between us in the end we just it was decided that I was right. [TS]

00:06:25   We found an expert who can even convinced Marco that my position was right in terms of the origin of the term [TS]

00:06:34   and so to sort of celebrate my victory. [TS]

00:06:39   I made to speak Scovel I had luck with a huge picture of me in a huge picture of him and had names [TS]

00:06:45   and great big huge top and it said Brady one Marco zero and I put it up and it became this big thing [TS]

00:06:52   and it became this mark of the Michael Brady scoreboard not dissimilar to a grey versus Brady web page maybe. [TS]

00:07:00   And this so this was you know he took it in good spirit but it was sort of a bug bear for him [TS]

00:07:05   and it was always in his face and he wanted to he wanted to get one back on me so he can't wait [TS]

00:07:11   and we waited for another disagreement [TS]

00:07:13   and in the end he got so desperate to score a point on the scoreboard he started taking silly risks [TS]

00:07:19   and calling me out for things being wrong when he wasn't sure I was wrong [TS]

00:07:23   and he said he started losing points the only other one I remember really well was. [TS]

00:07:29   You know this that an airport I think at St Maarten airport where the planes come in and land over a page [TS]

00:07:37   and they come in so low. Oh yes yes I don't know. [TS]

00:07:40   It's really famous you see these photos all the time you know it looks like the people in their bathers [TS]

00:07:43   and Kati's could just reach up [TS]

00:07:45   and touch the bottom of these huge passenger plane how to use a picture of that somewhere. [TS]

00:07:49   Yeah yeah I mean again I'm saying that now it's like the ultimate cliché and we've all seen a million times [TS]

00:07:55   but again this was a time when with no internet and just came out just coming into it. [TS]

00:08:00   The first sort of pictures of that war were going around on email and stuff and we saw one [TS]

00:08:05   and I was I was familiar with the sample and I said you know that's a real thing and he was convinced it was fake. [TS]

00:08:11   So I was like well you know this was over a few pints I remember at the pub [TS]

00:08:15   and I was really willing to stake a point on the scoreboard on the fact that's fake and he was yeah yeah I'll do it [TS]

00:08:20   and then you know we went on to the news wires in the photos and there were a hundred other photos [TS]

00:08:25   and he was on he lost another point of view so I don't think he ever took a point of view on the scoreboard because he [TS]

00:08:31   just got desperate and I got very protective and wouldn't take risks. [TS]

00:08:35   Point OK it's only this interesting times thing had come up this would have been an opportunity for him to take the [TS]

00:08:42   point of me because I was convinced to make you live in interesting times was a nice thing and had a nice sentiment [TS]

00:08:50   and I am wrong. [TS]

00:08:55   This there is this is like an activist so I was still under the new color is the thing that you were wrong about that [TS]

00:09:06   if her friend you knew years ago with Bill betting you he could have collective point because you are all well I have [TS]

00:09:13   to have I have to be honest when I was when I was thinking etc [TS]

00:09:17   and I was hoping I was hoping you might jump on board with a story from time to time to time in an hour I was going to [TS]

00:09:24   let you spin that one out all by itself. Buddy That was great. Well that's not really nothing I think that's fair. [TS]

00:09:34   Thank you engage you're supposed to engage in stories and say oh that's really interesting [TS]

00:09:38   but no problem about the problem few times which is [TS]

00:09:43   when I feel like I don't know exactly where the thing is going I find it hard to engage it's a bit like wait what where [TS]

00:09:49   was the where was the thing [TS]

00:09:51   and I have to admit I got distracted by the time the story because I was reading I was reading all up on the on this [TS]

00:09:56   loose cannon page which has some room for some remarks about Luke. [TS]

00:10:00   Then as a phrase was used in eight hundred seventy four but it mentioned as a as a French translation from the book [TS]

00:10:06   and there's a couple of other like dodgy references to loose canon [TS]

00:10:10   and so while you were telling your story then I went over to the Google Books [TS]

00:10:13   and Graham viewer which I do you know with and viewers. [TS]

00:10:17   I don't even care I'm so disappointed about surfing the internet telling [TS]

00:10:23   or going to a flower you have the engram view [TS]

00:10:26   or is this amazing tool from Google Books where they've digitize all the books from eight hundred to now at they can [TS]

00:10:33   get their hands on and they've done O.C.R. [TS]

00:10:35   Across all the books [TS]

00:10:36   and so you can search for the relative frequency of word usage over time which is very interesting [TS]

00:10:42   and is one of the things that I used in my What were the popular. [TS]

00:10:46   The names for the planet Uranus in an over over time so you can see the alternatives rise and fall. [TS]

00:10:53   So I look at loose cannon on the Google engram viewer [TS]

00:10:56   and it suspiciously has no references before about one thousand nine hundred thirty in the English language there's [TS]

00:11:04   just nothing there. [TS]

00:11:05   Doesn't necessarily mean anything because of course the data gets more spotty as you get closer to eight hundred [TS]

00:11:10   but still that makes this makes me wonder if this is one of these phrases that is actually modern [TS]

00:11:16   but that we think is much older than it really is. [TS]

00:11:19   But then I got distracted because you mentioned say Martin and I were thinking oh where we were [TS]

00:11:22   and what video must have been so I was looking up St Martin [TS]

00:11:25   and of course St Martin is the island that is named thrice because the island of St Martin in the northern part of the [TS]

00:11:33   island is French and is also named St Maarten and the southern part of the island is Dutch [TS]

00:11:37   and name St Maarten So that would have been my Netherlands video you get a lot of stuff while I was telling a story. [TS]

00:11:44   Then I went made a cup of tea ready for the script I was listening I was definitely listening you know I find really [TS]

00:11:53   interesting something comes up like this is obviously the same between us. [TS]

00:12:00   I always want to tell it like and like if if something happens I'm like oh that reminds me of a story [TS]

00:12:07   and I tell one of my big long story and you are really. Oh you want to talk about like some functional thing. [TS]

00:12:13   Oh that reminds me of Google engram which is this toe that you can use to do this. [TS]

00:12:18   This remark you know [TS]

00:12:20   when you look at the story like I did it just occurred to me I often think of times that you spin yarns about people [TS]

00:12:28   like oh that reminds me of my cousin Jimmy that once climbed a tree and fell off onto a spike and [TS]

00:12:34   but you don't really I can think of many other stories you tell that because Jimmy Story sounds great. [TS]

00:12:42   I could make one up if you give you a chance to say if the Internet [TS]

00:12:46   and if you can of the I'll be looking up Spike related injury frequently in just a moment [TS]

00:12:51   and some that tells you where every spike is in the northern hemisphere so you can avoid them and how useful this is [TS]

00:12:56   and yet every great man I would want something like that there is a there's an app that tries to track bed bugs at [TS]

00:13:03   hotels in America so it'll it'll show you a frequency of reported bedbug incidences at various hotels. [TS]

00:13:11   If you're like bed bugs though the bad news you got to avoid those not checking into some place unless I make sure the [TS]

00:13:16   bed bugs there first. [TS]

00:13:17   That sounds that actually sounds like a problem because that would turn into one of those things where like Trip [TS]

00:13:22   Advisor like anywhere you want to go you just go through every review until you find one bad review. [TS]

00:13:27   When you say OK now I can't go there. [TS]

00:13:29   Yeah actually there's always going to be one bed bug at every place where they are going to risk it. [TS]

00:13:33   You know forget it. Random acts of intelligence. Oh yes yes. [TS]

00:13:41   So for people who don't know there is going to be a live show featuring Destin from Smarter Every day. [TS]

00:13:52   Derek from Vera Tess and day of the leave leave that in just because it will annoy him. Eric from Veritasium. [TS]

00:14:00   Really and You Tube channel [TS]

00:14:01   and brilliant man Henry from physics Brady Haran from number five a myriad of videos sixty symbols tapes videos [TS]

00:14:11   and various others. And C.D.P. Gray from C.G. Degrade in person on a stage in real life. [TS]

00:14:21   Yeah people can come they can hear you talk they can possibly talk to you they can see your face they can can they [TS]

00:14:28   touch you but at night probably not no no. Maybe a handshake and chicks are OK bring hand sanitizer. Yeah. [TS]

00:14:37   So this is this is an exciting thing I have no information in front of me as to the date I was just like why are you [TS]

00:14:44   being so vague about this. [TS]

00:14:46   Nov fourteenth in Huntsville Alabama Tickets are forty two dollars you can go to active intelligence dot com [TS]

00:14:52   and purchase a ticket there because you're totally unprepared. [TS]

00:14:57   If you don't have the web page over the no is six to eight P.M. [TS]

00:15:00   But building up like suspense and excitement I don't think you are. [TS]

00:15:05   Think you're hoping that I was going to open the web page. [TS]

00:15:09   Well you know I know exactly what I said I wasn't what I was trying to do it was I was trying to get people to think [TS]

00:15:15   all this sounds really good. [TS]

00:15:17   I want to go [TS]

00:15:17   and I one of the people in there head to already have committed to going before realizing that they would have to do a [TS]

00:15:23   quiet pleasant and short trip to Huntsville Alabama where I would also get to visit like a big rocket center [TS]

00:15:30   and say the loveliness of Huntsville. Yes it's the U.S. [TS]

00:15:33   Space and Rocket Center the big Saturn five rocket there it looks very cool. [TS]

00:15:37   I have not been there I have not been there [TS]

00:15:39   but I have seen destine show off enough cool stuff from the Rocket Center to definitely feel like this is a cool [TS]

00:15:46   science you pleased to go to. [TS]

00:15:47   So yes we that's that's where we are all going to be and I believe pretty Derek and Henry [TS]

00:15:54   and Dustin are going to be putting on a little song and dance show and yeah it should be an interesting. [TS]

00:16:00   Thing evening of stuff and hanging out. So yeah. So Destin and Henry and Vera Tess. That's right we can get it. [TS]

00:16:13   OK now I have to leave it. [TS]

00:16:17   What if he just told the bearded guy with that channel the stats in the say do you know the problem is I'm trying not [TS]

00:16:24   to say pretty direct which is what I want to get annoyed him I think I'm always him I think he'd love that. [TS]

00:16:32   I think I mean either that or I don't have never discussed it with him but I think he loves it. [TS]

00:16:36   You might love it but anyway the five of us for various reasons had decided to kind of get together [TS]

00:16:42   and Destin was the best at organizing stuff [TS]

00:16:45   and so we all we all kind of agreed like let's hang out at Justin's house and so we decide we're all going to fly in [TS]

00:16:51   and just you know spend some time together because we're friends [TS]

00:16:55   and out of this eventually came the idea because Destin I feel like I know a lot of guys who get a lot of stuff done [TS]

00:17:04   but Destin is the way the top end of this list in terms of industriousness [TS]

00:17:09   and so I think he was he was very quick to pick up on the idea of hey. While we're all here why don't we do a thing. [TS]

00:17:17   I work with the U.S. [TS]

00:17:18   Space and Rocket Center I can get some space there I mean we can put on a put on like a little event [TS]

00:17:23   and answer some questions and meet some people and I think we all we all agreed because destiny is awesome [TS]

00:17:29   and then this is kind of spiraled up into an actual event [TS]

00:17:33   but yes the origins of his were just oh you know some friends were just hanging out [TS]

00:17:37   and then one of them said Why don't we do anything so we all know each other in real life we are definitely friends [TS]

00:17:44   and then we decide to put on Earth dust and organize [TS]

00:17:48   and decide to run this thing which I think will definitely be I think some people had the impression maybe it was some [TS]

00:17:54   like invited guests or some hand-picked thing and people like oh you know you should. [TS]

00:18:00   If so and so why isn't this and it's not like that. [TS]

00:18:02   It wasn't like it wasn't like this and said let's do a show and let's ask X. Y. and Z. [TS]

00:18:07   It was like we were already there and then I was like oh yeah let's do this thing and then [TS]

00:18:13   and then he's turned into this really cool thing. [TS]

00:18:16   Yeah the funny thing is Destin is way too awesome in some ways I'm looking at the poster right now that he put together [TS]

00:18:23   and the poster intimidates me the poster looks really official and super awesome [TS]

00:18:29   and they go Oh God that's that's quite an event [TS]

00:18:31   but it's just too good at putting together all of the cool looking I mean his B.S. [TS]

00:18:36   I want to point out someone else made a poster for him but he has he works really cool people [TS]

00:18:42   and I know some artist he works with. [TS]

00:18:43   Did did the poster I'm not saying that to to take any credit from Destine [TS]

00:18:48   but I know he would want he would want to shout out to the artists. Consider that done. [TS]

00:18:52   But come and come to the show if I think it's that. [TS]

00:18:57   I mean America is not a big place is that it's not hard to nip over to Huntsville to come and hang out with us. [TS]

00:19:02   Well here that America is a big place [TS]

00:19:05   but because it's a big place as Americans are used to travelling distances that you English people are understanding. [TS]

00:19:14   Well done. I would nave I would not try would not. [TS]

00:19:18   Justin told me just you know that there are people coming from all over the place to this from much further away than I [TS]

00:19:24   would have expected so yeah if people are interested will put the Web site in the show notes [TS]

00:19:29   and they can go check it out [TS]

00:19:30   and get tickets I don't know for how long tickets will still be available because they are selling quite well. [TS]

00:19:37   But yeah it'll be there if you want to come and see us in Perth and it will not be recorded. [TS]

00:19:41   Yes this is a real actual live you need to be there in print and I know that I'm going to be rewarded. [TS]

00:19:49   That's what I think we should have used that be there in the square. [TS]

00:19:54   That's cold isn't there for like a kind of nerdy gathering. [TS]

00:20:00   Maybe there are things not everyone's like what your recorder. [TS]

00:20:06   I'm not a big believer in recording everything except the guy videos for the butler who records other people here are [TS]

00:20:14   more than likely like weddings [TS]

00:20:18   and stuff like that I think it's like I don't have like speeches recorded from my wedding because in my head it was [TS]

00:20:25   amazing and everyone was laughing and like [TS]

00:20:28   when I tell my my can I tell you my anecdotes I think they're amazing I want to hear them back I'm like wow that really [TS]

00:20:33   was boring. [TS]

00:20:34   But did you hear me laughing in your mind that the reason the reason you were so quiet during my I think it was because [TS]

00:20:40   I thought you were in throat it was actually because you were going to step up on the internet with the wedding [TS]

00:20:46   and I am I like to imagine in my imagination it's kind of you know it's lovely and perfect [TS]

00:20:52   and I imagine if I watched a video and had all my arms and eyes and stuff I'd enjoy it less [TS]

00:20:58   and I think the same for this I think let's be in the room and have a have a great night with some people and [TS]

00:21:04   and that's just something those people will have and then you know. What's wrong with that. [TS]

00:21:09   Why does everything have to be recorded. [TS]

00:21:12   There's nothing wrong with that I think that I think it makes life events more special. [TS]

00:21:15   Although I'm going to disagree with you about something here slightly change the topic because you don't have a [TS]

00:21:22   recording of your wedding. [TS]

00:21:23   I do have a video recording of my wedding and you know me I am not a let's all remember the glorious past kind of guy. [TS]

00:21:34   I'm very forward looking. [TS]

00:21:35   I am so happy that I have a recording of my wedding because on the day of the actual wedding was such a blur that I [TS]

00:21:47   couldn't remember anything about it. [TS]

00:21:49   And when my wife [TS]

00:21:50   and I were driving from the ceremony back back to our hotel we in the car were saying We cannot remember what just [TS]

00:21:57   happened like it was such an overwhelming. [TS]

00:22:00   A fast moving day that if we didn't happen to have a video recording of that I would have literally no memory of what [TS]

00:22:07   happened on my wedding day because it was just too overwhelming for my brain to actually write down and record so [TS]

00:22:14   but instead you have like a forensic blow by blow. [TS]

00:22:18   Well I would have is is a video recording of my wedding which is now functioning as my actual memory of I don't [TS]

00:22:25   remember the wedding I remember all the times that I have watched the way on the computer so that doesn't work. [TS]

00:22:33   Let me let me respond to that in your response. [TS]

00:22:37   We had an amazing photographer who who didn't take like posting pictures because we were not too into them [TS]

00:22:44   but let's look sort of reporter there is a journalistic pictures which I really I really like [TS]

00:22:52   and prompt all those memories that need prompting. [TS]

00:22:54   And I did give a handycam to my non cameramen friend and said Just record some stuff for the law [TS]

00:23:01   and he did like so he recorded like not the speeches and the ceremony but he just recorded the stuff [TS]

00:23:07   and I edited that into a three or four minute video. [TS]

00:23:10   So there is video footage from the day which we love very much on the show which is sometime actually which is which is [TS]

00:23:17   good so I'm not saying like I don't document the day [TS]

00:23:21   and I'm not even saying don't have any video footage of the day I just think certain things. [TS]

00:23:27   Can you know some things that are better in the memory in my opinion. [TS]

00:23:31   For example I used to do a lot of plays and theatrical performances when I was in high school [TS]

00:23:36   and I remember I have very fond memories of them and I saw a video of one and it was pretty disappointing [TS]

00:23:45   and I've much prefer my memories of my performance than the actuality of my performance. [TS]

00:23:50   We're getting the rail here so fast but I would say of course your memory is better. [TS]

00:23:56   Human memory is so shockingly frail. [TS]

00:24:00   Oh and totally unreliable that that they what memory is it is an amplifier of whatever you think you are remembering. [TS]

00:24:08   So if you have some event in your past that was a mildly good day [TS]

00:24:12   and you keep remembering it in thirty years you're going to remember that day as the best day you've ever had because [TS]

00:24:18   your brain just keeps amplifying and adding in more details and the same is the reverse for things that are bad right. [TS]

00:24:26   You had a bad day. [TS]

00:24:27   Well fast forward twenty years you're going to remember that bad day as the worst day that ever happened. [TS]

00:24:32   If you keep thinking about it every single day so [TS]

00:24:35   when the bad days don't do that I find the good days to do what you just said and the bad guys don't do that. [TS]

00:24:40   Maybe that's like a self protection mechanism we have but I feel like the bad days don't get worse over time. [TS]

00:24:47   Actually it's almost certainly just that you don't think about them as much right if you keep revisiting a bad day like [TS]

00:24:53   we know them from science. Your memory of the things that you remember more gets more and more distorted. [TS]

00:25:01   So if there is a story that you keep telling by the fiftieth time you tell that story it is way out of whack [TS]

00:25:07   and it's actually the thing that you remember less frequently are the things that you remember more accurately as one [TS]

00:25:15   of reasons there's a total derailment here [TS]

00:25:17   but it's one of the reasons why eyewitness testimony is just worse than useless. [TS]

00:25:23   Because by the time you get someone on the stand they have been over their story with the police with the lawyers so [TS]

00:25:30   many times that by the time that the person is on the witness stand actually recalling what they saw those memories are [TS]

00:25:37   just completely untrustworthy. [TS]

00:25:38   So yes if you have a great day [TS]

00:25:40   and you want to remember that day in the future as glorious The worst thing you can do is record that day in any way. [TS]

00:25:47   Just keep telling people about how great that day was and in the retirement home you will be filled with bliss. [TS]

00:25:53   When you think back upon it. Answer me this then why don't you and Mrs Gray watched the video once. [TS]

00:26:00   It's to patch up the memories that are gone and then never watch again. [TS]

00:26:04   And stop stop building up that happy memory because Brady because I value accuracy over lies. [TS]

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00:28:14   Spoiler I'm not yet well although I'll try to not exploit this. [TS]

00:28:20   But I'm not going to sit here and say how great it is because it's a bit like I'm a bit late to the party [TS]

00:28:26   and obviously it's one of the great television shows and I'm going to sound a bit stupid like I've just discovered [TS]

00:28:32   and I want to tell the world how good breaking bad news but let's just say it's a really good show. [TS]

00:28:38   I don't know if you've watched AI shame you have [TS]

00:28:40   and I shame you agree it's good because if you don't I don't think we can be friends. [TS]

00:28:44   I have watched it and I do agree that it is good but I have I have Asterix on that [TS]

00:28:50   but OK Well before we go into possibly into Asterix I just want to say having finished it. [TS]

00:28:58   What an immense burden has been lifted off me. [TS]

00:29:02   In terms of avoiding spoilers about what would happen and how it would end because obviously this is a culture. [TS]

00:29:08   It's discussed on Reddit all the time there are always new articles [TS]

00:29:11   and you know it's become such a part of our culture that it's hard to avoid them. [TS]

00:29:17   And I've many times I've been going through Reddit and suddenly saying some headlines about what to watch [TS]

00:29:23   and sort of shut my eyes and click the back button to get away from the page [TS]

00:29:27   and I did I managed to avoid all the spoilers and got to the end of Breaking Bad. [TS]

00:29:32   Not knowing really what would happen and how it would end and enjoyed it very much. Thank you very much. [TS]

00:29:42   Do you want to talk about us Trix's or is this not the time. Breaking Bad another day. [TS]

00:29:47   No I just really sorry [TS]

00:29:49   but I was just trying to look up something about the Internet as you well know because I feel we need to impose some [TS]

00:29:56   kind of that's normally I don't. [TS]

00:30:00   Only I don't but I just your spoiler thing reminded me of something [TS]

00:30:03   and I'm just I can't find it off somehow I'm going to go out on a limb here [TS]

00:30:07   but what it reminded me of is there's a new ish pod cast I found called T L D R And broadly I could say that it is it [TS]

00:30:17   is about Internet culture [TS]

00:30:19   but they had an episode that I really liked which was on that thing which was called I was the last man standing [TS]

00:30:26   and it's a game [TS]

00:30:28   and the game was played between a bunch of friends with the goal of who can be the last person to find out who won the [TS]

00:30:37   Super Bowl this year and so that they were playing this game to try [TS]

00:30:42   and avoid this incredibly big piece of news that's good. Yeah it was a good episode. [TS]

00:30:48   If I'm not going to have one this year I did watch it. OK I'm not sure I ever knew. [TS]

00:30:54   But if if I might have this wrong about the part I might put a different pod cast in the nose. [TS]

00:30:58   Even that aside T L D R as a good pun Catholicity argument but so I'm thinking of is [TS]

00:31:05   when you are watching a show like Breaking Bad. [TS]

00:31:09   It's a bit like you are playing your own version of this last man standing [TS]

00:31:13   and you have to try to avoid this information coming to you [TS]

00:31:18   and it can come to you at any time from any location on Twitter or just on some some web site [TS]

00:31:25   and I am I am with you on this one. [TS]

00:31:28   I watched Breaking Bad late as well [TS]

00:31:31   and I remember feeling this exact same anxiety over trying not to know what happens in Breaking Bad. [TS]

00:31:39   I got enough through Season four part one [TS]

00:31:42   and it ends at Season four part two as I was just about to start that season for part two [TS]

00:31:47   and I happened to be talking to some friends and they brought up breaking bad [TS]

00:31:51   and I said oh just don't mention it to me I'm you know I'm only up to season four part two. [TS]

00:31:56   Don't tell me anything I don't want to know. And. [TS]

00:32:00   I don't know if you've ever come across this kind of person [TS]

00:32:03   but there is a sort of person who feels like they are doing you a favor if they tell you all of the stuff that happened [TS]

00:32:11   later on and his friend was like Oh well let me just say like no no I don't want to hear it [TS]

00:32:20   and I had to be ridiculously firm with this person about I'm very senior you know. [TS]

00:32:26   Yeah please don't tell me I will I will murder you before I let you finish that sentence because I spent two years [TS]

00:32:34   trying to not find out about the end of the show. [TS]

00:32:36   There is this kind of person who seems to want to tell you what happens [TS]

00:32:40   and I think it is because they are a kind of person who needs to know what happens [TS]

00:32:45   and this is what I'm about to say I have no intellectual ability to understand humans but I have met people who [TS]

00:32:53   when they pick up a book the first thing they do is read the last page of the book. I can not understand this at all. [TS]

00:33:05   This is like I can't come up with an analogy. [TS]

00:33:08   Just my brain just goes completely blank on the possibility that somebody else's brain would work this way. [TS]

00:33:14   There is one circumstance in which I understand that besides the silly one like oh I could die never know how it ended. [TS]

00:33:20   That's a pretty stupid move there is there is there is an occasion where I get tempted to read the last page of a book [TS]

00:33:26   and that is that this is a circumstance and I will start with an analogy you know [TS]

00:33:31   when you're on a ship in the middle of the say [TS]

00:33:33   and in the middle of the night you go to the edge just look over the rail at the water [TS]

00:33:37   and it's like quite scary isn't it you know I could jump in and no one would ever know and the ship would be gone [TS]

00:33:42   and that would be it suddenly you have to imagine jumping you like take a jump on it. [TS]

00:33:47   I'm going to and you just imagine yourself doing it and then hopefully you don't do it [TS]

00:33:53   but that is a weird thing that goes through your head that gets a call of the void as the name for that. [TS]

00:33:58   OK sometimes if I. I'm reading a book. [TS]

00:34:01   I do the same thing like I imagine I could just look at the last page right now [TS]

00:34:06   and right now I could look at I could do nothing and no one will stop me and it will turn [TS]

00:34:13   and then I say it's like the equivalent of jumping off the ship I sometimes have those moments with a book on the cover. [TS]

00:34:18   I could just tell that is that and the arrival of the middle of however brief. [TS]

00:34:26   So [TS]

00:34:28   when I finish breaking bad I thought well done I have managed to avoid the spoilers I decided to have a look how long it [TS]

00:34:34   had been since the last episode was broadcast and it turns out I watched the finale three hundred sixty four days. [TS]

00:34:42   But I screamed. [TS]

00:34:45   So I quite like I kind of regretted not knowing that because I would have waited one more day [TS]

00:34:49   and I would have I would have liked watching on the anniversary [TS]

00:34:52   but I didn't find out till after the fact because that's when I then went to wikipedia [TS]

00:34:56   and read everything in the laws about breaking the law. I've got Brady's paper cap. [TS]

00:35:01   Yes yes and it relates to all of this. His Brady's paper which we haven't had for a while. [TS]

00:35:09   My paper is people who live tweet things on T.V. Who do you follow who does this. Well less people than that's not it. [TS]

00:35:22   What happened last night was the father of a television show that's been very popular in the U.K. [TS]

00:35:28   Called The Great British Bake Off which is like a cooking it's a cooking show. It's surprisingly addictive. [TS]

00:35:36   It's like you know. So anyway I usually don't watch on the day I usually watch a couple of days later. [TS]

00:35:42   But because it was the final I thought well I will watch it on the day because it'll be very hard to avoid [TS]

00:35:47   but I had to work for my wife to come home from work she was working late so I had to wait till late in the evening [TS]

00:35:53   and I went on to Twitter quite innocently. [TS]

00:35:55   OK Martha I went to Twitter while it was on and there were people saying oh I'm sorry. Glad so and so won. [TS]

00:36:03   I think then I think there needs to be some etiquette about tweeting what happens in T.V. Shows. [TS]

00:36:09   There are times when live tweeting is acceptable and there are times when it is unacceptable in my opinion [TS]

00:36:15   and it's not a little during an Apple event. It is acceptable during a T.V. Show. [TS]

00:36:23   Yes it is acceptable although it's a nuisance to me it is acceptable during a sporting event. [TS]

00:36:30   I wish people wouldn't do it because I sometimes watch sporting events on July. [TS]

00:36:34   But I accept sporting events news things those breaking news like an Apple event or some disaster [TS]

00:36:41   or something of course [TS]

00:36:42   but like the presidential debates I think I live tweeted during the last president Yeah like if I said I'm not going to [TS]

00:36:48   watch the presidential debate for a few hours because I'm busy. [TS]

00:36:51   Except people are going to live tweet that [TS]

00:36:54   and then I was the very notion of a spoiler alert for the presidential debate is kind of ridiculous. [TS]

00:36:59   Yeah yeah but I think reality sort of baking competition show is on like at peak time. [TS]

00:37:08   People need to be sensitive to that. But we live in an era now where people watch their entertainment quite delighted. [TS]

00:37:15   Not many people watch stuff live [TS]

00:37:17   and I think if you are tweeting who won the Great British Bake Off while that's happening that's unacceptable. [TS]

00:37:23   The next day. OK You know it's an it's a news event now but during it. An acceptable that's my paper cut. [TS]

00:37:32   I know I know I made a mistake by going on Twitter but I'll tell you the worst offender though. [TS]

00:37:38   He's a mate of mine I hope I hope he doesn't listen to the podcast I'm pretty sure he doesn't lose. But there's a T.V. [TS]

00:37:45   Show in the U.K. Again called University Challenge It's a quiz show. Very difficult questions. [TS]

00:37:51   I really enjoy watching it to see how many of the questions I can get right. [TS]

00:37:55   Because because there are so few you can get right it actually becomes a point of interest. [TS]

00:38:00   And I had this friend who likes the show as well and he would go on Twitter and he will watch it [TS]

00:38:05   and he will write the answers to all the questions. [TS]

00:38:07   Like life like he's listening and if you know the answer he writes it down. [TS]

00:38:10   There's no way he's writing it more quickly than the people answering but you go into his Twitter stream [TS]

00:38:15   and it would say you know no Pope King Charles to say Brazil. [TS]

00:38:22   You know you Dr nine hundred forty three and I really got pleasure from recording University Challenge [TS]

00:38:29   and later I'm watching it and saying how many I could get and when you had all the answers then you are true to strain. [TS]

00:38:35   I got really mad he was even doing that on Facebook I feel like this is the smallest scale of spoilers that I can still [TS]

00:38:46   afford with microbes. [TS]

00:38:51   I mean smaller and I would feel like I'm sorry Brady I can't go along without it Madagascar are [TS]

00:38:59   but that this is a spoiler. [TS]

00:39:01   I can I can kill off with the yeah that the next level would be the presenter is wearing a pink tie [TS]

00:39:09   and that would be OK if you do small you ruined it for me I was anyway. [TS]

00:39:18   There we need we need clearly delineated boundaries of what can be left weighted and what cannot. [TS]

00:39:25   And the Great British Bake Off fine cannot be live tweeted I have spoken. It is Bane Nobel Prize wake. [TS]

00:39:35   Oh yeah it's always a big week for a science a video maker such as Are you now feeling guilty for not following you [TS]

00:39:42   more closely. Do you still do the make some poor professor at Nottingham explain the Nobel Prize. Right then and there. [TS]

00:39:52   Well I didn't. This year we didn't I wasn't in the room watching it with them live for various reasons. [TS]

00:40:00   Pretty much straight afterwards. [TS]

00:40:02   It's a mad scramble for mayor and the university finding someone who's suitable to explain it [TS]

00:40:07   and I have done this with the physics prize and the chemistry prize [TS]

00:40:11   and if great is kind he can link to the video as I don't do the medicine prize because I haven't got medical care no I [TS]

00:40:19   don't give a literature one because I haven't got this channel [TS]

00:40:23   and I don't give a pace one because page prizes like a rubbish taken sides. Did you follow the Nobel prizes this year. [TS]

00:40:30   Any Any thoughts on the Nobel Prize in general. [TS]

00:40:34   Well I basically didn't know the Nobel Prize it happened until just now. I'll take that as a no. [TS]

00:40:39   So sorry you don't get what you think about the Nobel Prize you think it's a good thing [TS]

00:40:45   or do you think you know process a reloader rubbish and you know science is about prizes. [TS]

00:40:52   And you don't like trinkets I can't imagine you'd like a you know gold medals [TS]

00:40:57   but a million bucks I imagine you'd see some merit. So. [TS]

00:41:03   OK I don't know if the prize related story you want [TS]

00:41:08   and I don't like you going to go get my Internet open let me open safari. You can I wait with bated breath. [TS]

00:41:23   So as you may know for the for the benefit of the audience if you get a million subscribers on You Tube then You Tube [TS]

00:41:35   sends you this gold play button [TS]

00:41:39   and it's it is impossible to describe how enormous this thing if it comes in this this huge frame [TS]

00:41:48   and this golden play button is like a sphere the size of a human head. [TS]

00:41:54   This prize is enormous I will try to find a video because if you won You Tube of people opening up their gold. [TS]

00:42:00   Play boxes and they always say you know I have to interrupt because you're not going to believe this. [TS]

00:42:05   Well mine arrived four hours ago. [TS]

00:42:07   No hole I had it and it is it is within eyeshot of me and is still in the box fresh as I haven't even opened it yet. [TS]

00:42:15   Oh I testified to the fact the box is enormous and incredibly heavy but it seriously it just arrived. [TS]

00:42:22   All right Will this work for me as you know you just got yours I certainly haven't and I haven't even opened it [TS]

00:42:28   when I reached a million subscribers. [TS]

00:42:32   I had a very excellent and very thorough partner manager at You Tube [TS]

00:42:39   and for for those who aren't aware of partner manager at You Tube is someone who just you can ask questions [TS]

00:42:44   and they want to make sure everything is OK with with your channel. [TS]

00:42:48   And his partner manager kept trying to ask oh where do you want the golden play button sent [TS]

00:42:55   and trying to trying to extract the information from me [TS]

00:42:58   and she must've chased me for months about where do you want us to send the golden play button How is the best way to [TS]

00:43:05   get it to you. [TS]

00:43:06   Should we just have it shipped to you to headquarters and I can hand it to you [TS]

00:43:09   when you can bring it home on the underground. [TS]

00:43:11   Should we have it shipped to your parents and I'm trying desperately to extract this information from me [TS]

00:43:16   and I spent so much effort constantly trying to derail the conversation [TS]

00:43:22   or avoid direct answers because I had no desire to have this gigantic useless trophy in my house. [TS]

00:43:32   I think you know what is awesome. [TS]

00:43:34   What's awesome is that I have a million subscribers [TS]

00:43:36   and that many people want to watch the videos I make I am truly humbled by the number of people. [TS]

00:43:43   What I don't need is a job I can tick thing in my house that constantly remind me of that. [TS]

00:43:50   I don't like like a wedding video. [TS]

00:43:52   No not like a wedding video because a wedding video can be a file on my computer that I never even have to to look at [TS]

00:43:58   if I don't want to. Gigantic. All play button. [TS]

00:44:00   What the heck am I going to do with that so I was dodging her for ever before finally finally it was relinquished [TS]

00:44:09   and I am a fortunate person now to still be sitting here with over a million subscribers [TS]

00:44:14   and no gigantic golden play button. I don't want it obviously. [TS]

00:44:18   Personally I don't like I don't like trophies and I don't know if you remember [TS]

00:44:22   but a few maybe last year I guess it was near the time I was crossing the million subscribers Mark there was also one [TS]

00:44:31   of the You Tube edu conferences that we went to and Hank Green was there with the crash course. [TS]

00:44:39   People who make an excellent excellent You Tube channel [TS]

00:44:43   and it just so happened that Hank Green was there at the U two conference when he crossed a million subscribers. [TS]

00:44:51   Yes And so at the conference they presented him with a gigantic golden play button. [TS]

00:44:55   Yes [TS]

00:44:55   and I had been trying really hard to hit a million subscribers before that conference because I just thought oh I would [TS]

00:45:02   like to be at the conference and have a million subscribers. That would seem like it was fun. [TS]

00:45:06   I cannot tell you how much a relief I was filled with at the cover that I will as I go for only have nine hundred [TS]

00:45:14   thousand and that I didn't have to go up on stage [TS]

00:45:16   and they were going to hand me some gigantic old play button because my only thought would have been how the heck am I [TS]

00:45:21   going to get this home thanks. Can I leave this here. [TS]

00:45:25   Is it impolite to just you know pretend to forget it in the in the Google cafeteria [TS]

00:45:30   and just try to get the heck out of here without it so yes I have not not a personal personal fan of trophies What are [TS]

00:45:36   you going to do with yours. The thing is enormous. [TS]

00:45:38   Well actually as as you are aware because hopefully you are coming along as a special observer [TS]

00:45:46   and Guest I have a video planned kind of belatedly celebrates number far reaching a million subscribers. [TS]

00:45:54   So I was hoping to have it there and somehow incorporate it into the video. [TS]

00:45:58   We've reached a million hidden is the button. [TS]

00:46:00   Now that I've seen how big [TS]

00:46:01   and heavy it is I will not be taking a calf so I I don't agree with you I think I I don't mind trophies I know it's [TS]

00:46:12   kind of a vanity thing. [TS]

00:46:15   And I you know I have here in my office [TS]

00:46:18   and I have a few that I have given to you know people at the university who have helped make videos possible it's a [TS]

00:46:24   nice it's a nice thing to be able to say I don't I don't I don't hate them the way you do but I do [TS]

00:46:30   when I say them for that. But can I coming back to you know wanting a play button. Can I can I put things out there. [TS]

00:46:38   One you'll pay I know your parents you know justifiably very proud of the things you've accomplished. [TS]

00:46:45   Why not have it sent to their home and let them have it up in a room somewhere [TS]

00:46:49   and say oh yeah that's our son you know he's very successful filmmaker and that is that would interest them either. [TS]

00:46:57   They would probably be much more interested than me [TS]

00:46:59   and that that was my backup plan was if I was ever in a situation where I cannot possibly get out of it I'll have that [TS]

00:47:04   thing shipped to my parents and let them deal with it and I give you a third option. Yes Can I have it. [TS]

00:47:11   Now when you get out of my gold labor pool is going to have to known [TS]

00:47:16   or not I think it would be a really fun video to take see G.P. [TS]

00:47:20   Guys go the play button and like throw off a cliff or smash it with an axe and he'll be out soon [TS]

00:47:24   and I don't know that I don't agree with because that is right. [TS]

00:47:27   That's But that's like this that's like disrespectful of actually I wasn't thinking I wasn't thinking of it in that [TS]

00:47:35   context [TS]

00:47:36   but yeah because I had made that's a bit like this that's not the that's not the thing just to be clear that that's not [TS]

00:47:44   what I meant that's not that's not the spirit I've been going to more into some doing something spectacular I didn't [TS]

00:47:49   mean I think it's a really lovely thing that they sent us that they don't have to send us these things for free. [TS]

00:47:54   It's a very nice thing to do. Yet though I didn't mean to but and that's where again they are not. [TS]

00:48:00   I am not opposed to the abstract notion of winning prizes. [TS]

00:48:05   But like the it's like the important part about winning the Nobel Prize is that you won the Nobel Prize it is not the [TS]

00:48:17   actual physical object that they hand you. [TS]

00:48:21   So that's that's that's the difference here and with the You Tube thing it's like I have the million subscribers. [TS]

00:48:27   I don't need some objects to remind me that that is the case. [TS]

00:48:32   But obviously Nobel Prize is way less frequent than You Tubers with the millions of drivers so they are they are vastly [TS]

00:48:41   more vastly more valuable [TS]

00:48:44   but they are still a million dollars Actually I don't know that I think it's over a million dollars. [TS]

00:48:49   Section one rating has been growing and obviously the exchange rate the exchange rate changes [TS]

00:48:54   and that's in Swedish kroner but I think it works out to be over a million of course that usually gets split up. [TS]

00:49:00   People really were not alone anymore that you know I mean that's part of the question about the Nobel Prize now isn't [TS]

00:49:08   it. Yeah you know because that no more than three people come in a can I ask you. Brady asked a random question. [TS]

00:49:18   You promised I could make this a segment so I was distracted at one point two million dollars at the current exchange [TS]

00:49:23   rate. Yes well I said several million dollars. Brady asks gray random question which is entirely random. [TS]

00:49:31   This is actually a favorite question of mine to ask people with these questions won't be as fun because I know exactly [TS]

00:49:37   what the answers will pay but I'll see where I can take it. [TS]

00:49:39   So would you rather win a Nobel Prize or a World Series or Superbowl you know when it's raining. [TS]

00:49:51   I'm imagining a Nobel Prize. Well well hold on a second. Does this mean I have to put in all the work. [TS]

00:50:00   Required to get either of those prizes because the Nobel Prize means I'm also signing up for a lifetime of some of the [TS]

00:50:08   hardest work that a human being can possibly do. [TS]

00:50:11   You can whereas you can just take a Nobel Prize with just a little bit of luck whereas you've got to do. [TS]

00:50:17   Can you guarantee that it's a lucky one for a Nobel Prize. [TS]

00:50:21   Because I'm not I'm not signing up to win a Nobel Prize when I'm seventy [TS]

00:50:25   and that sounds like that sounds like an enormous amount of work whereas a World Series that sounds like less work. [TS]

00:50:31   What I'm saying is when you're about to dive you're about to draw your last breath or you and I [TS]

00:50:36   and I'm preparing a picture. [TS]

00:50:38   Do you want me to be saying C G P grade the Nobel Prize winner was a Super Bowl winner you know the Super Bowl [TS]

00:50:44   quarterback who won the Super Bowl. Well I will have cared about when I'm dying. If I have lived an enjoyable life. [TS]

00:50:49   And so that's why I'm trying to figure out what is required of me with these two prizes at the World Series sounds like [TS]

00:50:56   way easier than being an athlete is like quiet but you have to do a lot of exercise and a lot of fitness [TS]

00:51:03   and running yet [TS]

00:51:04   but I'm already I'm also thinking that this is a much more limited period of time of your life probably. [TS]

00:51:10   Yeah and if I'm winning but winning a World Series I'm probably a fairly well paid athlete as well. [TS]

00:51:15   Scientists are not well paid. [TS]

00:51:17   So this is this is what I'm trying to do the calculations on here I have mine actually go for the World Series. [TS]

00:51:22   I think I'm definitely going that way. You take these questions so different to my other friends. [TS]

00:51:27   I don't understand how well suppose we think about that would you would you rather win a Nobel Prize or the [TS]

00:51:34   or an Oscar. Well I just have the exact same question Do I have to do the work for these things. [TS]

00:51:40   Again after it sounds like it that way better deal I think I'm going to go far after Yeah [TS]

00:51:46   but it also has less cachet doesn't that then [TS]

00:51:49   and depending on your mindset again I'm concerned about the quality of my life not the greatness of my obituary. [TS]

00:51:57   Obviously Nobel Prize winners can. Why are you more into society than any actor or any sportsman. [TS]

00:52:05   But that is not a relevant question for how do I necessarily want to live my life. You really are. [TS]

00:52:09   Every decision you make is just based on making your life better. There's no there's no thought of legacy. [TS]

00:52:18   You know he only care about is just. I'll be dead when the legacy you know it. [TS]

00:52:24   Yeah that's what that's what that's kind of one thing that's that's exactly yeah. [TS]

00:52:30   Legacy you know [TS]

00:52:32   and I do not optimize my life for that I think it is great that people do I am very glad those people exist. [TS]

00:52:38   I am not a person who is who is capable of being really interested in what happens after I am dead because I will not [TS]

00:52:46   be able to be interested because I will be dead. [TS]

00:52:49   So every decision you make is just based on having a comfortable chair to sit in and nice food to eat [TS]

00:52:55   and not be in pain. [TS]

00:52:57   Basically you are oversimplifying it in a in a very Brady like way [TS]

00:53:03   but I am concerned with improving the quality of my life is the way that I would I would put it. [TS]

00:53:10   OK but I feel like I always disappoint you now. Welcome to my well for your side that may you never disappoint me. [TS]

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00:55:24   I Phones. [TS]

00:55:26   Oh you want to talk i Phones our talk I found first of all Lou first of all this is amazing [TS]

00:55:31   and this is probably a sad indictment on they [TS]

00:55:34   and will further enhance my caveman reputation I'm still yet to touch an i Phone six. [TS]

00:55:41   Gloria I think I saw a success I don't know if it was a six [TS]

00:55:45   or a success because I haven't seen the two side by side yet [TS]

00:55:48   but I sort of woman with an i Phone held up to her face that looked like an i Pad some a shaming that I hope that was [TS]

00:55:53   the success could be there's one big one that that plus sorry sorry Sixtus I hope that was a six plus because if. [TS]

00:56:01   If they make them any bigger than that. Heaven help us. You went for the six. The smaller of the tourney. [TS]

00:56:08   Has it worked out for the first I feel like in my world I have been I have been listening to nothing [TS]

00:56:13   but other people on podcasts also talk about their i Phones everybody on all of the five cats I listen to is talking [TS]

00:56:20   about their i Pod [TS]

00:56:21   and it's one of these weird things where normally at a certain point I feel like OK I've had enough of this. [TS]

00:56:28   This particular topic I feel like I can never hear enough conversations about people talking about the six versus the [TS]

00:56:37   six plus versus the five S. [TS]

00:56:39   It just it is endlessly engaging to my brain for reasons which I think might become clear as as now I continue to [TS]

00:56:47   participate in this conversation. [TS]

00:56:48   So when we record the last show I had seen and i Phone six in person you know I had not yet gotten mine [TS]

00:56:56   and so now I've had it for I don't know two weeks [TS]

00:56:58   or so I keep coming back to this feeling that it's just a little too big that I've never quite realized how much I use [TS]

00:57:09   my phone one handed and. It's this is going to sound like a crazy person that right but not once not twice but thrice. [TS]

00:57:22   I went back to the Apple store to look at the six plus because I kept thinking well if I'm having a hard time using [TS]

00:57:32   this one handed Why don't I just double down on size and go with the six plus if I'm going to be a grizzly. [TS]

00:57:40   That's exactly it right. Greatness is achieved by doubling down on strength not by not by mitigating weaknesses. [TS]

00:57:48   Yes OK Well let me just let me just go for what this thing actually is you want a bigger phone. [TS]

00:57:53   You're going to get the biggest phone but every time I went back into the store I would look at the six plus and go. [TS]

00:58:00   Oh my God this thing is enormous and comically big From what I've seen from this one the one I saw. [TS]

00:58:08   Yeah it is it is almost comically big [TS]

00:58:11   and then it's a funny situation where it goes from having a little bit of difficulty using my phone one handed to well [TS]

00:58:17   actually I can reach maybe twenty five percent of the screen. One handed. [TS]

00:58:24   I can even reach and hit the return key from the opposite end with my thumb. [TS]

00:58:29   You know one handed experience is just way way too big I mean it's clearly it's just not a one handed sign is this the [TS]

00:58:38   thing we have to just accept the days of the one handed phone [TS]

00:58:43   or if you go even going to a sixty six plus I don't know I don't know I guess it depends on what happens next year [TS]

00:58:52   or maybe in two years time to see if Apple gets rid of their smallest size phone that it's now to me is a very [TS]

00:58:58   interesting question if they have written five size phone but. [TS]

00:59:02   It's like I never knew how much I used my phone one handed until I suddenly found myself just with a phone that was a [TS]

00:59:10   little too big to use comfortably one handed I mean don't get me wrong I can I can get by [TS]

00:59:16   but it's I am constantly aware of trying to reach to the far end of the screen [TS]

00:59:22   or readjusting the grip on my phone so that I can reach like the top corners so yeah surprised I'm surprised I was [TS]

00:59:31   convinced by now you would be saying not a problem. You know best. Best thing I ever did. [TS]

00:59:37   Days of the you know I look at my five S. Now it looks too small. [TS]

00:59:41   I thought you know because I put out my phone the other day and I looked at that [TS]

00:59:44   and so on my goodness I could never use a four again. It was tiny. [TS]

00:59:47   I thought you would say the same thing to me about the five S. [TS]

00:59:50   I'm surprised you're still you know you're not a total convert. [TS]

00:59:54   So this is why I think it's so interesting because almost Yes. So I would say without exception. [TS]

01:00:02   Up until this point every time I have upgraded to a new Apple device be it a laptop or be it an i Pad [TS]

01:00:11   or my previous phones. [TS]

01:00:13   There is very often with Apple something they've changed where you feel like I don't know about this apple [TS]

01:00:18   but within a week you're always thinking unambiguously How did I ever live like I have before. [TS]

01:00:27   And this is the first Apple device where I just constantly find myself like feeling in doubt over it [TS]

01:00:37   and this is a new experience with an Apple product for me whereas every other time it has just been I'll get used to it [TS]

01:00:45   and then yes you're completely sold on it but that is why the i Phone six is just a keep staying in my mind [TS]

01:00:53   and it's why I am so interested to hear other people on the podcast that I listen to discuss their experiences with it [TS]

01:00:59   as well. Have you really taken out your five S. and Just held it and felt and so I wish it was this again. [TS]

01:01:06   But what happens when you hold your five S Now the smaller one. So my wife is using the five S. [TS]

01:01:12   Because I am the tech guy in the house. [TS]

01:01:15   I often have reason to handle her phone and every single time I pick it up and it feels like oh it's a little small [TS]

01:01:24   and then immediately I realize just I can reach the whole screen. [TS]

01:01:28   It's like I can use it without thinking about having to use it it is very natural in this particular way. [TS]

01:01:35   Whereas with the six I'm constantly shimming it up and down a little bit. [TS]

01:01:40   There has been much discussion on one of our favorite pod cast which is accidental Tech podcast about the correct way [TS]

01:01:46   to hold an i Phone and i am very strongly in the arm [TS]

01:01:50   and bliss camp of using your pinky underneath the phone in your one hand [TS]

01:01:56   and you use the pinky to kind of move the phone up and down. [TS]

01:02:00   Which extends the reach of your thumb across the screen so that I mean I know I'm tame pinky toe [TS]

01:02:05   but I I don't even think I need to move with the pinky is just like the holder [TS]

01:02:10   and my son does all the work like that you don't even need to shimmy a movie that way you know I compare it to [TS]

01:02:15   and I haven't heard anyone else make this comparison but this was always a favorite thing of mine. [TS]

01:02:19   When you're when you're having a drink at the pub and you've had quite a few drinks [TS]

01:02:23   and you getting to the point where you think gosh I hope I don't drop a drink that would be really embarrassing. [TS]

01:02:28   The experienced drinker will hold the glass [TS]

01:02:32   and just put their pinkie under the base of the glass like a little like a little catcher to stop them so if you if you [TS]

01:02:39   if you slipped over your right right you know you have your pinky there was a back up [TS]

01:02:43   and that's how that's how we hold or find the pinky the pinky. [TS]

01:02:47   Other people call it the load bearing finger and yes it is bare and glowed but it also is just this. [TS]

01:02:52   It's a backstop is not. It's like it's the catcher and I kind of I'm amazed that there are people who don't use it. [TS]

01:02:59   I'm trying it now just does my head in another business of the team you know you say you don't put your pinky under the [TS]

01:03:06   finest. [TS]

01:03:07   Let's see if the circ uses stance when you know normally I find myself agreeing with you [TS]

01:03:13   but this time I made a little video where I was trying to use the various methods to reach the corners of the screen [TS]

01:03:21   and it just was completely incapable of doing it with any of the Syracuse recommendations. [TS]

01:03:27   Yes I have seen the i Phone five video but I guess so I'm using I am aware that with [TS]

01:03:33   when I hold my wife's i Phone five S. [TS]

01:03:38   Yet yes it rests on my pinky [TS]

01:03:40   but it's the same thing where I am not actively using the pinky in very very much a way any way at all. [TS]

01:03:46   I'm not actively using the pinky to move my phone up [TS]

01:03:49   and down assets only with the six that you see using the pinky to shop around so I K X. [TS]

01:03:55   I find that I have to use the pinky in two circumstances. [TS]

01:04:00   One is to raise the phone a little bit so that I can type more comfortably because they hit the keys that are closest [TS]

01:04:06   to my hand is now slightly awkward [TS]

01:04:09   and then the one that I still can't quite do is to try to drop the phone as much as possible to be able to hit what for [TS]

01:04:16   me is the top right corner [TS]

01:04:19   and of I might be a little stranger I am the only person I've ever met in real life who does this [TS]

01:04:24   and I only to one other person on the internet who does this but I am right handed [TS]

01:04:29   but I use my i Phone in my left hand exclusively freak freak. [TS]

01:04:35   I didn't know that and you AFAIK is that freakish I don't think it is and has always felt really natural to me. [TS]

01:04:41   I'm just trying to have my pain in my left hand I mean I have to hold it in my left hand you know on occasion if I'm [TS]

01:04:49   like yeah I forgot my right hand. [TS]

01:04:54   Yet that would not be my default and that when I type one [TS]

01:04:57   when I type one handed on my phone I'm using my left hand even though I am right handed [TS]

01:05:00   and it is almost impossible for me to imagine doing it any other way I have played cricket with a guy who bowed with [TS]

01:05:06   his left hand which like pitching [TS]

01:05:09   and threw with his right hand he is amazing because I they're almost two identical actions. [TS]

01:05:16   Anyway just yeah so what I was like this basically there is this problem for me where the with my default grip the [TS]

01:05:25   middle of the phone is very easy to hit but then the extremes of the top and the bottom I have to shuffle it up [TS]

01:05:31   or down with my pinky to be able to comfortably hit it in one way or another [TS]

01:05:36   and I'm just constantly aware of this as a thing that makes the phone a little bit more difficult to use [TS]

01:05:42   and it is pinned on my mind. [TS]

01:05:45   There are things that make this more a more frustrating experience because for example a my phone on my home screen. [TS]

01:05:53   I only have two rows of icons. When I turn on my phone. So that's eight icons. [TS]

01:06:00   In total Apple does not allow you to arbitrarily place where these icons go you have to fill the icons in from the top [TS]

01:06:09   left to the bottom right here [TS]

01:06:12   and this means the only icons I have they are they are almost all I need to have a little pinky drop action to fit them [TS]

01:06:21   all very comfortably marooned at the top of the screen. [TS]

01:06:24   That's exactly and if you do the little the dual double tap thing Apple will slide them down half way on the screen [TS]

01:06:32   and every time I look at that I think why can't you just leave the icons in the middle if I could put them anywhere [TS]

01:06:36   that I would want I would put them in the middle of my screen and I would be much happier. [TS]

01:06:40   But no they have to be at the top of his even wondering can I. [TS]

01:06:44   Can somebody make [TS]

01:06:45   or can I buy on the App Store a blank application an application that does nothing except it has a transparent icon [TS]

01:06:52   and no text just placed a fork in the other ones there. I'm trying to do the count here I would need. [TS]

01:07:02   I would need about twelve eight or twelve. [TS]

01:07:04   And if somebody made eight [TS]

01:07:06   or twelve one dollar blank icons I would buy them today just of moved I don't have to icons halfway down the screen [TS]

01:07:16   into the place where it is it is most comfortable to have to be invisible though you can't just you want to put fillers [TS]

01:07:20   there. [TS]

01:07:21   No no now you know I mean it's got some people some people have so many icons on their phone [TS]

01:07:27   when they open the phone up. I don't understand I understand how to do it. I'm going to throw Derek under the bus now. [TS]

01:07:38   At that time seven I was very lucky enough to see Derek he got it right that time came. Derek came through London. [TS]

01:07:49   So the reasons why I love living in the city is every once in awhile people I know happened to pass through it's a [TS]

01:07:54   great juncture point and if I'm lucky they come and see me so I thought Derek we had a nice afternoon chatting. [TS]

01:08:00   About stuff. [TS]

01:08:00   But at one point Derek handed me his phone and I looked at it and there were just pages and pages filled with icons [TS]

01:08:12   and I just I was just horrified by this. [TS]

01:08:16   I don't understand how people live like this and then I could see that I was revolted by looking at his phone [TS]

01:08:23   and asked me you know what was wrong and I said all of these icons are what's wrong. [TS]

01:08:30   And then Derek said oh don't worry I don't use most of them. [TS]

01:08:36   Which to me is like my brain just could not handle this and the thing it was like does not compute. [TS]

01:08:44   Derek thought he was saying something that would improve the situation. It's just made it a million times worse. [TS]

01:08:53   What do you mean you have five pages of icons and you don't use most of them. [TS]

01:08:58   What what world do you think that makes me feel better about all these icons [TS]

01:09:03   and I don't mean to pick on Derek here this is the most recent case where this has happened [TS]

01:09:07   but I always see that people open up their phone [TS]

01:09:09   and there's just a million icons like oh I don't use them how do you how do you live like that is my name [TS]

01:09:16   but one day he made it needs to be there yet but I have I have a ton of icons on my phone as well [TS]

01:09:22   and almost all of them live in a folder called rarely used. [TS]

01:09:26   Right just shove them all in there so that they're not on your actual home screen [TS]

01:09:30   but if you happen to need them they're installed one before you have if you have a phone really East. [TS]

01:09:35   Yeah you really use them and it's still taking up space on your phone [TS]

01:09:38   but it's not getting what they meant to get rid of that if you were just intentionally trying to provoke me now I have [TS]

01:09:45   a system. My system is very clear there are two rows and two rows only allowed on the front of the phone. [TS]

01:09:54   This is to help prioritize what do you actually use the phone for it. In force a work flow and it's not a static thing. [TS]

01:10:03   It still is well it is also an aesthetic thing because nothing looks more hideous than an i Phone filled with icons [TS]

01:10:10   especially now the phones are bigger and you can have so many icons on there. [TS]

01:10:15   I have always been even before I decided on just limiting it to two rooms I have always been firmly in the belief that [TS]

01:10:21   at the very least the bottom row the row directly above the doc should be empty. [TS]

01:10:27   Yeah even I have an idea that I should just realize I haven't asked [TS]

01:10:33   and I think I was afraid to ask what your i Phone looks like. [TS]

01:10:35   I don't actually know I've never seen with your i Phone looks like. [TS]

01:10:38   I do believe that the bottom row has to be clear clearly right at the bottom [TS]

01:10:42   or has to be clear I have a high discipline on my front on my first page [TS]

01:10:46   but I do have a couple of folders on my first page so what I do is like for example such as notifies them fine say [TS]

01:10:53   things like but all my social media stuff like Twitter and Facebook and Skype [TS]

01:10:58   and all that sort of stuff that they all go into a folder on the front page so they know they're not all in your face [TS]

01:11:05   that you know that Barack sensible from the front page. [TS]

01:11:09   I keep bottom very clear but also thank god but the first [TS]

01:11:13   but all the rest of the have to be feel like you can't have like a jacket and as today. [TS]

01:11:17   As to the facts and oh yeah no you can't have a jacket at all. [TS]

01:11:20   Do you what do you have is your background image on your phone do you have an interesting image [TS]

01:11:25   or saying you've got all that space is there what fills that empty space. [TS]

01:11:31   You'd probably laugh if I if I sent you my background image right now [TS]

01:11:34   but I'm going to go back to dark for a minute again continuing to throw him under the bus [TS]

01:11:38   when he handed me his phone as well. There was a picture of a kitty cat. [TS]

01:11:43   Writers like this cat that's just sitting in a basket for his home. [TS]

01:11:48   Lock screen and for his background so I like an idiot I said oh you've got a cat. No this was just some stranger's cat. [TS]

01:11:58   Somebody else while while Derek. [TS]

01:12:00   At handed them his phone and taking a picture of their cat and then just set it as his lock screen and wallpaper [TS]

01:12:06   and he just left it. He never felt the need to change it. I can't I just I don't understand. I'm so sorry Derrick. [TS]

01:12:13   I don't mean to bring all this up for the internet but I just don't understand that [TS]

01:12:17   when i O S seven came out which was the first one that introduced all the translucency effect so that you're your [TS]

01:12:26   wallpaper then affects the way the rest of your apps look I spent days literally days trying to find an acceptable [TS]

01:12:39   background because now it was not just something that looks pretty it has to be something that looks pretty [TS]

01:12:44   and works well with the translucency. [TS]

01:12:46   Yeah I mean I really must have dedicated I don't know sixteen hours to the hunt for trying to find the perfect i Phone [TS]

01:12:56   background and in the end I just had to give up because I was unable to find something that was adequate [TS]

01:13:01   and so I think it was I think Eric's image that you spent sixteen hours. Well she's an image and she's up for that. [TS]

01:13:07   Like this is why it's funny because in some ways Derek and I are very similar [TS]

01:13:12   and in some ways we are not very similar at all. [TS]

01:13:15   And with respect to the home screen selection clearly Derek is on the more rational end of the spectrum. [TS]

01:13:25   It's like borderline ing on a mental disorder to spend that much time trying to select the perfect wallpaper for your [TS]

01:13:31   background but I could not I could not let it go. I'm not even sure about the borderline anyway. Borderline Brady one. [TS]

01:13:41   But anyway I have to say I am I was extremely happy because [TS]

01:13:44   when i O S eight came out I thought oh no I feel that it's too like let's try to solve the background issue [TS]

01:13:52   and I did put in a good afternoon but I finally found an i Phone background that I am very very happy with. [TS]

01:13:58   But Derek laughed at me. When he saw my background and just said really really. [TS]

01:14:05   So my background is kind of an abstract black and dark gray pattern but it is not a photograph of anything. [TS]

01:14:16   OK What is your background. [TS]

01:14:18   My background image is a photograph of Mount Everest taken with my phone from Calcutta which is the sum which is a [TS]

01:14:28   summer opposite Mt Everest which affords the best view of Mt Everest you can get but nothing like a hardcore climber. [TS]

01:14:36   And I'm quite proud of it [TS]

01:14:39   but it's kind of it's not obtrusive it's it's kind of it's kind of because the sky is kind of painful in the mountains [TS]

01:14:47   are bit pebbly and so it's kind of I wouldn't call it abstract but it also isn't something you look at [TS]

01:14:54   and think is afraid of something really specific a person. [TS]

01:14:57   Yeah that is also just an awesome achievement photograph you took that at Everest you know that that photograph has has [TS]

01:15:06   more meaning than other photographs would I didn't made as a humble brag but it totally is. [TS]

01:15:12   No there's not a hubbub right you weren't you weren't putting yourself down in any way. There's not a humble brag. [TS]

01:15:16   Not even close. So I know you're right yeah but yeah you know it was just a Bragg should look like. [TS]

01:15:28   That's what the brag. Did you just text me. [TS]

01:15:33   I didn't text you [TS]

01:15:34   but I will text him a your patent just so you can see what it looks like in case you were I think if you were that [TS]

01:15:39   interested you know I'm not a fan of what you've done there. [TS]

01:15:41   I wouldn't expect anybody else to be a fan [TS]

01:15:44   but I'm a total that works the problem is just it's too sharply defined like the lines are too sharply defined [TS]

01:15:51   and so it draws the eye. [TS]

01:15:53   If it had a bit of soft focus over so all those sort of triangles that make up the patent were not quite so. [TS]

01:16:00   I distinct I think it would work better but I think I think they draw the eye a bit too much for mine. [TS]

01:16:06   This is going to be a bit like our flag that said we're going to describe for people things that would be much better [TS]

01:16:12   if they could just I'm going to going to say I'm going to send you mine but you will be upset [TS]

01:16:18   and the reason you have to say is because of all the red badges alive everything. [TS]

01:16:22   Oh no you're not one of those people you have red red badge and are nobody gets a red badge except messages. [TS]

01:16:31   Nobody gets a red badge you you're not going to be happy with me. [TS]

01:16:36   I'll send you a new ID so you can see how Congress works. [TS]

01:16:40   Yeah that's a good thing I do see some people's phones where there's red badges everywhere [TS]

01:16:43   and his can get how do you how do you live like this I don't understand I don't understand it all behind me here they [TS]

01:16:49   can't what you're going to be really mad when you see that came out anyway. Well you got your e-mail. [TS]

01:16:54   I'm used to that now where you have twenty thousand unread messages I don't know why. [TS]

01:17:00   Part of the reason for the unread messages on my i know you are always full of a story about it. [TS]

01:17:05   Oh I love this previous unread messages show as seven dot dot dot eight. [TS]

01:17:17   So how many digits are the I think you need arrow notation to know how many unread a mouse This is actually say wait a [TS]

01:17:27   minute wait a minute have you not upgraded to Iowa State you have a badge on your settings out on me I was hoping you [TS]

01:17:33   wouldn't call me on that. You haven't upgraded I was eight. [TS]

01:17:36   Look this is the situation this is a situation where if you say because I got spooked by the bug with eight point one [TS]

01:17:48   to whatever point to one of the yeah I got spooked by that because I hadn't yet gone to a twitch in it so fine I was [TS]

01:17:53   wrong so what is your game plan here just never going to upgrade upgrade. Upgrading has big penalty. [TS]

01:18:01   Well on our side it never has been. [TS]

01:18:03   Every time I upgrade my operating system on my mac it cost me a fortune in buying software again. [TS]

01:18:11   and I'm not even joking because I use Avid which isn't as Mac friendly as some other software that I use on a Mac. [TS]

01:18:19   Every time I upgrade my have it stops working and I have to buy another one. Cost me a fortune an incentive. [TS]

01:18:25   But let's let's constrain this discussion to your phone. [TS]

01:18:29   Thursday's game plan is going to leave that red badge there staring you in the face every day on your home screen. [TS]

01:18:35   Nonetheless what with the settings right there because of the fact look it up and read things [TS]

01:18:41   when you think about Everest. Yeah the background is fine I'm OK with that. [TS]

01:18:46   I approve of a lot more folders than I would have thought. But all of these badges I just I really do. [TS]

01:18:54   Yeah I'm going to do away with that bottom row actually because I don't need those things on there. [TS]

01:18:59   You've got cancer you have integrated it I just I just. Derek hadn't upgraded to eight either. I don't understand. [TS]

01:19:09   Understands I you know I'm loving it. I think it is really good. I'm not an early adopter. [TS]

01:19:15   I'll let other people take the bull like I'm like a buck a field marshal on the back [TS]

01:19:21   and I went to the older soldiers have fallen on the field and all the bugs have happened [TS]

01:19:25   and their phones will stop working and then when the coast is clear and everyone's happy. [TS]

01:19:29   I triumphantly come through and upgrade then. [TS]

01:19:32   OK I'm letting you know around eight point two Now I'm giving you the all clear on this one. It's fine. [TS]

01:19:39   I need I need more than just the all clear from you. I'll get there. [TS]

01:19:45   OK OK you'll get and eventually I'll get so annoyed by the Prom's coming up all the time [TS]

01:19:49   when I change everything you want to plug my phone in now I'll just do with a classmate You may as well somehow on the [TS]

01:19:56   web the. [TS]

01:20:00   That's totally fine and I just I just can't I can't deal with this shot showing you my i Phone [TS]

01:20:06   or anything to do with my computer is a bit like my wife not looking through the rubbish [TS]

01:20:11   and finding like McDonald's wrappers like it's like I always feel you seeing anything to do with my thing because I [TS]

01:20:18   know I'm going to get disapproving disapproving covets. [TS]

01:20:22   Yes as as as you as you definitely and definitely have right now. [TS]

01:20:28   Anything else about the i Phone you had about a thousand. [TS]

01:20:31   Oh I did I did have a thousand bullet points are your capers going over a little bit longer and the world will stop. [TS]

01:20:38   We've broken my spirit now. Yes I guess you know he's like Brady five this way. [TS]

01:20:47   You put my name in the bullet points that excites me. [TS]

01:20:50   Well I was wondering because last time you mentioned that you were thinking maybe upgrading to five S. [TS]

01:20:55   and I was wondering if that was something you had thought any more about I have not given a lot of thought I think I [TS]

01:21:01   need to. [TS]

01:21:02   Well I'm seeing you hopefully on Saturday and Sunday so I will have a look at your phone and then OK if you allow me. [TS]

01:21:09   Well you look at all of locks. Yeah yeah yeah. [TS]

01:21:16   I gave Brady my phone for three minutes he deleted Oh my my my channel was gone. [TS]

01:21:21   If you don't I don't hand people my unlocked phone I mean that's you know I mean if you're more comfortable maybe you [TS]

01:21:27   could just give me a piece of cardboard cut to the same. [TS]

01:21:33   But yeah I have not made a decision about upgrading [TS]

01:21:37   but upgrading is imminent surely because my net trade my battery lasts about three seconds it feels like sometimes. [TS]

01:21:45   Oh yeah so that reminds me of the one thing though I have I have been testing out the phone [TS]

01:21:53   and you know one of the one of the things that I thought was was interesting just about the larger size [TS]

01:21:58   and this is why I'm so conflicted. [TS]

01:22:00   Because I've been complaining about it on the last podcast and now sort of on this pod cast. [TS]

01:22:04   But I definitely do like the bigger screen [TS]

01:22:07   and it totally fits with what I was kind of hoping which is that the slightly bigger screen actually means it's a lot [TS]

01:22:16   easier for me to do some of the work that I do on the phone. So like what. [TS]

01:22:22   One of the things that I will sometimes do is there is like a cafe that is kind of convenient [TS]

01:22:27   and nice twenty five minute walk from where I live and sometimes [TS]

01:22:30   when I'm kind of stuck on something I just go for a walk and I take my phone with me and then I get a coffee [TS]

01:22:36   and I like to be able to sit down and just I didn't bring a bag or anything [TS]

01:22:39   but work on something if I thought about it while I was on the walk and my i Phone five S. [TS]

01:22:46   I was just always aware that the screen was a little too small for some of that stuff. [TS]

01:22:50   But the six is definitely way better. [TS]

01:22:52   So I do have to give it a thumbs up for the bigger screen [TS]

01:22:55   and that is why I kept debating about getting the six plus because I thought Well the biggest green is not even a [TS]

01:23:01   biggest screen is even better. But again that's good that that phone is kind of really seems. [TS]

01:23:06   Important That seems pretty fundamental. [TS]

01:23:08   Like like like all this talk about having to you know she media so she me that actually sitting down [TS]

01:23:14   and using it for work is a pretty big due yet although I know there are those little shimmy moments [TS]

01:23:19   when you just use it for a few seconds more important than those big sessions when you sit down at Starbucks [TS]

01:23:24   and spend twenty minutes Ana which is a more important use. [TS]

01:23:28   This is exactly this is why I feel so conflicted because I have definitely been getting a decent amount of real actual [TS]

01:23:37   work done on my phone and that is and I've never really been that kind of person. [TS]

01:23:41   But the little bit of the screen size increase has definitely made that much more possible. [TS]

01:23:48   Although Apple still always gets you because when I sit down to use my phone I always use it in landscape mode [TS]

01:23:57   and then it is it is a very perfect size for me to hold. [TS]

01:24:00   Two thumb type and to use [TS]

01:24:03   but Apple does not let you rotate the phone into landscape mode in the same way they do on the six plus so on the six [TS]

01:24:10   plus when you turn it sideways. The phone understands. [TS]

01:24:13   Oh I'm sideways it rotates all of the icons and it sets itself up for proper landscape mode. [TS]

01:24:18   Where is the i Phone six refuses to acknowledge landscape mode so I find myself using the phone in the sideways [TS]

01:24:26   position when I go back to the home screen all the icons are side sideways [TS]

01:24:29   and if I use a Spotlight search it's sideways and I have to type briefly the first couple letters sideways [TS]

01:24:34   and it is just incredibly infuriating [TS]

01:24:36   and this is the kind of thing that for people who don't like Apple this is exactly the sort of thing that they always [TS]

01:24:40   point to. [TS]

01:24:41   Apple doesn't give you the choice as to whether or not you want to let the phone rotate to landscape orientation. [TS]

01:24:48   Apple makes the choice for you now right. [TS]

01:24:52   So I do have sympathy for the people who like if you have a certain personality type Apple will drive you up the wall [TS]

01:24:58   with these kinds of decisions we feel like why can I change the setting on my phone [TS]

01:25:03   and this is one of these times where it is just infuriating to me. [TS]

01:25:08   But using the phone in this landscape way is super helpful so. [TS]

01:25:12   I have this this kind of feeling of dread that I am just going to be forever [TS]

01:25:18   and more stuck in this kind of in-between state with the phone always going to feel like it is just a little too big [TS]

01:25:25   for one handed use but then also quite happy [TS]

01:25:27   when I sit down somewhere to to dedicatedly use the phone on purpose so I don't know I don't know what's going to [TS]

01:25:34   happen but I am concerned about about my future with i Phones [TS]

01:25:39   and being perfectly happy which is what I would like to be. [TS]

01:25:43   These are yeah what else you got there but I was on your list. Dreaded pocket reshuffle. [TS]

01:25:49   Oh oh did you have the funds that might know about this. [TS]

01:25:54   I can't believe our conversation might have ended without this. OK OK. [TS]

01:26:00   But the problem is that I don't like a crazy person here but you have a lot of spending a crazy prisoner [TS]

01:26:07   and that sixteen hour ever since then I've just given up. OK so here is the other. [TS]

01:26:14   This is like the major problem in my life right now. [TS]

01:26:17   I have a very specific set of items that I keep in my pockets [TS]

01:26:21   and they live in very specific places you know like you know as a man [TS]

01:26:26   when you're leaving the house you do the kind of tap down you tap the front pockets or your back pockets [TS]

01:26:30   or whatever it is. So you know you've got everything you need yet. [TS]

01:26:33   OK I know this for for a long time it has been very clear what I have is tap OK front left pocket as i Phone because I [TS]

01:26:41   use it with my left hand here and it has two other items in it it has a regular pen and it has a stylus. [TS]

01:26:48   So I guess that's front left topic up front left pocket front right pocket. [TS]

01:26:53   I have keys and I have a wallet is in front right pocket. Yeah. [TS]

01:27:00   Now depending on the day sometimes they have a notebook in my back pocket [TS]

01:27:03   but usually not usually the back pockets are empty because you need to sit down [TS]

01:27:07   and you don't need to sit down on an uneven surface. [TS]

01:27:10   For years I used to have my wallet in my back pocket [TS]

01:27:13   and then I just made a dedicated changes that no wallet you're going to go in the front pocket. [TS]

01:27:17   This is obviously a superior experience although it took a hell of a long time to get used to. [TS]

01:27:23   Let me tell you that was a several month transition where I wasn't constantly tapping my bat back pocket [TS]

01:27:29   and thinking Oh God Someone stole my wallet Oh no it's in my front pocket. But now you've moved to a superior pocket. [TS]

01:27:34   Experience is a much superior pocket experience except here's the thing. Here's the real problem Brady. [TS]

01:27:41   The i Phone six is just big enough that it makes it untenable to have it in the same pocket with the two pens. [TS]

01:27:52   So now the two pens need to go somewhere where it is going to go. Pens can go in the back. Pockets now can they. [TS]

01:28:01   Nine so there's only one option which is the front right pocket [TS]

01:28:06   but the front of racialization Oka Thank you don't you are already pretty nerdy. Take a step get the pocket protector. [TS]

01:28:15   You don't even want to have a discussion with me about shirt pockets that will be here it's already real long time will [TS]

01:28:20   be here for a lot less just letting you know that they have it for a moment had it for the moment let's just assume [TS]

01:28:30   that shirt pocket is not available I mean I don't know where the center is but I know a lot of ashit book. [TS]

01:28:39   OK so where are the Pens going to go the only place they can possibly go is front right pocket. [TS]

01:28:45   We are now front right pocket as keys wallet and tents it's entirely too. [TS]

01:28:50   Too busy in front right pocket time there's also coins in there as well. [TS]

01:28:56   So yeah this is this is all kinds of terrible don't execute me. That's disgusting. No with who in them. [TS]

01:29:06   Oh OK and it's now here in the back there in the back. [TS]

01:29:11   Again tiny Joe our Pooh can fit in your front pocket and there is the problem there. The Greyhound. [TS]

01:29:20   And so the problem is do I have to move my wallet back to one of the back pockets because you don't think something has [TS]

01:29:30   to give from that front pocket I mean the nostalgia of that would be nice but I think it would be a retrograde step. [TS]

01:29:36   You've moved to the superior pocket experience that I don't think you can. [TS]

01:29:39   Yes and I go back I can't go back no I know I haven't met you as a man who describes books dead trees. [TS]

01:29:48   What on earth are you doing with a pen in the first place. [TS]

01:29:51   The pen is surprisingly handy [TS]

01:29:53   but even even if I tried because the pen is the least frequently used object so I thought OK let me try it without the [TS]

01:29:58   pen. Actually doesn't help because just the stylus and the i Phone is still too much. [TS]

01:30:05   Once you've got a stylus because surely if you've got strategy [TS]

01:30:07   and if your i Pad if you got your i Pad can't you store the stylus where you're storing the i Pad You forget that I [TS]

01:30:14   have my stylus I have my i Pads with me all the time. [TS]

01:30:19   The problem is I have too often run into the situation where I just I don't have the stylus when I need it. [TS]

01:30:26   So I need to know that I always have it with me. [TS]

01:30:28   Mine used to be you know you need to know where you started to say yeah I did. [TS]

01:30:32   It's we can talk about my my redundant bag system. [TS]

01:30:35   Sometime they are going into super levels of crazy because this is just the beginning. [TS]

01:30:41   Well you know what I love what that although you know how crazy this makes you sound as if it was you with so much joy. [TS]

01:30:49   You keep going anyway because old love it. [TS]

01:30:51   No it's not it's not Joy I want to have this settled and clear [TS]

01:30:56   and this occupies my mind intensely And so ever since I got this i Phone six every morning it's like my pocket system [TS]

01:31:03   is thrown into utter disarray I don't know what to do [TS]

01:31:07   and I don't just have like the clear habit of it just everything goes in the right pocket they don't even think about [TS]

01:31:13   it now I have to think about this every morning [TS]

01:31:15   and it's like oh well depending on what jacket I have maybe I'll put my phone in the jack [TS]

01:31:19   and it just is disaster you need a system that is the same every morning so I don't know what's going to happen [TS]

01:31:24   but I have always absolutely hated wallets. [TS]

01:31:28   Just needing to carry a wallet has always made me very angry I don't like all the things in the wallet. [TS]

01:31:34   And now I find myself just furious at the existence of a wallet. But why do I need to carry you wallet. [TS]

01:31:43   I don't like I don't like this at all. [TS]

01:31:45   I don't like all the cards that I have to have in the here [TS]

01:31:47   and now I'm having this crisis of there's no place to put the wallet is not going to go in my back pocket. [TS]

01:31:52   I don't I don't know how to rearrange all of these things just the pocket reshuffle is something that the i Phone six [TS]

01:31:59   has forced upon. Me and it has made me extremely extremely grumpy and I don't know what to do. [TS]

01:32:04   Doesn't it make you feel about give you a nice man failing though and I remember when I was a boy [TS]

01:32:10   but I was so jealous of my dad's wallet like I dreamed of the day [TS]

01:32:13   when I needed a wallop to the point where you know you would have won even when you had no money or cards. [TS]

01:32:17   Yeah yeah exactly. [TS]

01:32:20   Every every young boy in that exact same thing you get a lot of and you think I have no money to put inside. [TS]

01:32:27   I feel grown up. [TS]

01:32:29   Like say having a ball is like a right of passage just like it's a I guess the novelty has worn off now. [TS]

01:32:37   Yeah that's yeah you know when you're in your thirty's. [TS]

01:32:41   OK now I don't need to carry this thing I've always hated the war and this is why I also look at the i Phone six [TS]

01:32:46   and I think man you can bring on these mobile payments fast enough for me. [TS]

01:32:51   Honest to God I go through my wallet every couple of months [TS]

01:32:54   and just obsessively try to think about how many more items I can possibly remove from this wall [TS]

01:33:00   and on the occasions when I can reduce the number of cards that I carry by one that is an enormous celebration. [TS]

01:33:06   More honest to God when I quit my teaching job. [TS]

01:33:11   One of the greatest pleasures of that was I was able to remove three keys from my key ring. [TS]

01:33:18   I thought this is this is great. [TS]

01:33:22   I'm constantly trying to get these things down to the small silver ball how conversation is such a good example of why [TS]

01:33:29   my wife secretly wishes she was married to because you are perfect like I have so many K.'s [TS]

01:33:37   and my wife says well that's all there is case law and like she says What is that one day [TS]

01:33:41   and I have a few K.'s I don't know what they don't [TS]

01:33:44   but I don't want to take them off my keyring because one time I remember all that might be important or something. [TS]

01:33:49   Like I have I have a few K.'s and I just don't know what they are but I just carry them on my key ring anyway [TS]

01:33:55   and like and every time we leave the house like I hope I can never. [TS]

01:34:00   Find my wallet or my phone on my case [TS]

01:34:02   and I never know where they are because I don't have a cassette player No you have to set a landing pad where I don't [TS]

01:34:08   have that. [TS]

01:34:09   Yes if any that I that my wife [TS]

01:34:13   and I'm like oh where are they that could be a hero there you know if they're going to only be one place where they can [TS]

01:34:17   be they are they are there or they are on you right now it's at the place doesn't matter you just pick a place. [TS]

01:34:24   No that's not how I work but when I next time I'm at your house I'm going to pick a place for you. [TS]

01:34:30   OK I went about will just totally ignore it. [TS]

01:34:33   I don't like I don't see that I'm just not I'm just not a creature of habit I retain. [TS]

01:34:39   I'm just not I can't retain it's not like I think I'm like James Dean Mr Rebel [TS]

01:34:44   and no one can time I just watch my wallet anyway. Yeah. It's just I'm just not a routine guy I just don't have. [TS]

01:34:54   I just don't have retained you know like I envy I envy you that sometimes there [TS]

01:35:00   but you can also see that the same the same kinds of things that you are saying are enviable. [TS]

01:35:05   I also quickly become a prisoner of these of these thoughts right. Yes of course. [TS]

01:35:08   Of basically taking everything out of my wallet like I'm field stripping a gun laying all the parts out in front of me [TS]

01:35:15   on a table staring at them and thinking Is there any way that I can reduce to abuse to one of these. [TS]

01:35:20   I went out I went on a trip recently what wasn't rationed it was that Vietnam trip that we spoke about around the time [TS]

01:35:26   the poker started and there was a note a chap on the bus with us and he was a top guy [TS]

01:35:31   but he had this one idiosyncracy where he was obsessed with counting money [TS]

01:35:35   and he had his Vietnamese currency so he had quite a high the numbers were quite high because the currency because the [TS]

01:35:40   nature the currency so you've got thousands and thousands of right right whatever the country was. [TS]

01:35:46   But every ten minutes he would have to count how much that was with how much he had [TS]

01:35:51   and then we'd be putting a lot on the bus we would never even been out of the bus hit the car to spend the money [TS]

01:35:56   and he'd have to he'd have to discount again. He just had to counter to know. [TS]

01:36:00   If you show what it was and a little O.C.D. [TS]

01:36:02   Now yeah you could wind him up to say he can oh yeah and they don't say that. [TS]

01:36:08   You sure that's what it was and they need to get a count again. That's OK That's good. [TS]

01:36:13   Kicking someone while they're down. Actual O.C.D. If you don't want to. [TS]

01:36:18   Oh let me just inject a tiny bit of doubt into their minds won't that be funny if you really felt that that's [TS]

01:36:26   inappropriate then. [TS]

01:36:28   But like the stuff circles circle my latest project which every time I come home I think about it [TS]

01:36:34   and I try to put this out of my mind but I look at my door [TS]

01:36:37   and I realize well I can get rid of two keys on my key ring because you can buy these doors. [TS]

01:36:46   These door bolts that are activated by your i Phone by proximity to the i Phone And so I keep thinking should I get one [TS]

01:36:53   of these things on the door. Now the problems are that I don't own the apartment that I'm in. [TS]

01:37:01   I'm renting this place [TS]

01:37:02   and I'm trying to do the calculations of what are the likelihood of that of the owners of the place noticing that I [TS]

01:37:09   have swapped out the keys. [TS]

01:37:12   It's like before I'm actually going to to leave this place so try think can I get Could I get a locksmith to come [TS]

01:37:19   and install the wireless door bolts and then also leave me the bolts and then replace them before I move out. [TS]

01:37:26   All of this just to reduce two keys from my key ring [TS]

01:37:29   but I cannot tell you how pleasurable it would be to be able to take those final two keys off [TS]

01:37:33   and be like Screw you guys I don't need to carry you around every day of my life anymore. [TS]

01:37:39   I've moved on to the future with a superior wireless locking technology. [TS]

01:37:45   I'm not going to say what I want to say because I know what happened. [TS]

01:37:48   Let me let me ask another question what if your phone goes dead. [TS]

01:37:53   I have redundant systems in place to have that covered now so I have the ability to. [TS]

01:38:00   Charge my phone outside of my house you have to have redundant systems in a case like that [TS]

01:38:04   and also many of these not all of them [TS]

01:38:06   but many of the locking systems have a have a fallback numeric punch code that you can also use so that is a [TS]

01:38:13   possibility as well [TS]

01:38:14   but yes I do want to make sure that there's a there's a way that I can always charge what I'll say at home. [TS]

01:38:20   I'll say it isn't there's something nice about case they're just not the nice things they're nice objects. [TS]

01:38:30   No you don't think the case is some nice object in the sun taking away you know there's something satisfying about [TS]

01:38:39   using a K. They just like the just a nice thing there like. There they kind of pretty in there. [TS]

01:38:47   They've got like a heritage and they're kind of associated with mystery and safes and locking in Coney braking [TS]

01:38:55   and old stuff and like they just can use a nice things like when I go to LA and takes fairs [TS]

01:39:01   and stuff I just love looking at OK's [TS]

01:39:03   and I don't want to weld with case is this why you have all of these key that you carry around you have bought random [TS]

01:39:10   keys and throws and then added them to your key ring [TS]

01:39:12   and then you forget later on which is the real key that which are not the real key is that while you have some [TS]

01:39:17   janitorial ring with fifty keys on it that this is I was going to you just reminded me of something. [TS]

01:39:23   Listen to I mean this is got nothing to do with what we're talking about. [TS]

01:39:28   I was listening to one of our old podcast the other day and [TS]

01:39:33   and I like I spend so much time talking to people from different countries [TS]

01:39:37   and stuff I tend to think that the novelty of language has gone away [TS]

01:39:43   and you said something that made me feel oh made me realize you're American and I'm not. [TS]

01:39:48   You referred to a janitor and when you said that [TS]

01:39:52   and I was listening to that I was like wow that's like he's American and I'm not [TS]

01:39:57   and that was that's the first I think that's one of the first. [TS]

01:40:00   Times in years that I've spoken to one of my American friends and have that feeling what word would you use. [TS]

01:40:08   No clean air or something not the word janitor and there's just something about the way you said it was [TS]

01:40:13   when we were talking about black men and you talking about the janitors. [TS]

01:40:17   Oh yeah yeah and I was and he's he's different to me. He uses language differently sometimes. [TS]

01:40:25   You just reminded me of I mentioned we're going to I'm going to bring it up like about four [TS]

01:40:28   or five times I kept forgetting and he just said janitorial sense reminded me that I am indeed an American [TS]

01:40:36   or was born raised in America he were just it was just a little thing because I was the manager bring it up like i'm [TS]

01:40:46   sorry i like case I'm sorry the i Phone's a story I don't know what I don't know the solution to your pocket problem. [TS]

01:40:55   I think it's probably unnecessary for you to have a stylus in your pocket and unnecessary if you to have a pen [TS]

01:41:01   and whatever you are using to carry around your i Pad which you say is always with you. [TS]

01:41:04   I suggest you put your pen and your stylus in that thing is of some kind of backpack or bag you carry I don't know [TS]

01:41:10   but that's where you should put those rather than your pocket it's not a good idea to have a pen [TS]

01:41:14   and your pocket anyway because if it leaks you can get in call of your travels I have been carrying a pen in my pocket [TS]

01:41:21   for. Ten years. Yeah I don't think I've ever had a single leak. Well it could happen tomorrow. Yeah. [TS]