00:00:14 ◼ ► and I got a shredder not from not from Gray because I've just specifically told him not to give me a present although I [TS]
00:00:20 ◼ ► do I do understand you were involved in some of the secret behind the scenes is your evidence about what shred it to [TS]
00:00:28 ◼ ► And you'll be happy to know it is a crush rather good good cross cross cutting other any of any had it running for an [TS]
00:00:36 ◼ ► and I haven't it hasn't really become part of my retain yet I have to say I love a good good good satisfying isn't it. [TS]
00:00:52 ◼ ► and like I gave my friend said do you want to just go ahead and shred bits of paper. [TS]
00:00:57 ◼ ► I think a day fifty before I got sick of it and when I got a hot dog. I think it's brilliant and I'm already. [TS]
00:01:04 ◼ ► Now I'm saying all these lovely things because in Utah and I'm going to look at it [TS]
00:01:12 ◼ ► and I want to put something in there that feeling that it's gone it is very cleansing. [TS]
00:01:20 ◼ ► Yes you really you really gotten rid of it would you have to do it would you have to do to make sure it becomes part of [TS]
00:01:28 ◼ ► or directly under your desk basically within an arm's reach of wherever you're sitting [TS]
00:01:48 ◼ ► Excellent so good I'm so happy for you you know aside from other things what else did you go with a telescope. [TS]
00:02:00 ◼ ► Like how big of a telescope are we talking about here and I don't ask for that because I don't know. [TS]
00:02:09 ◼ ► and people they already showing whatever to us it's a mirror reflecting one that hasn't got a lens I guess it maybe has [TS]
00:02:17 ◼ ► got a lens in the eye pay special it's a marijuana it's quite a good one apparently. So I'll give you all the details. [TS]
00:02:25 ◼ ► When the box is in the same room as me there's no doubt it will stay in the box for forever [TS]
00:02:32 ◼ ► but I'm really excited to have it was a really lovely present very well looked after my birth I am a lucky man. [TS]
00:02:39 ◼ ► You did you did you do star gazers in your spare time if you have spare time do the star charts [TS]
00:02:53 ◼ ► but I don't I'm not I've never been particularly into the like the star gazing side of astronomy [TS]
00:03:04 ◼ ► I recently went on a trip to the not that recently a little while ago I went on a trip to Chile with them. [TS]
00:03:10 ◼ ► A guy could paint Lawrence who is one of the best Astro photographers in the world [TS]
00:03:15 ◼ ► and I was going out every night with him and we were by just taking photos of the stars [TS]
00:03:34 ◼ ► and I actually said to him not wanting to be rich because you know I was with him I just said to him I said I don't [TS]
00:03:49 ◼ ► All of these incredible blazing stars and supernovas and things of saucers we can't comprehend [TS]
00:04:00 ◼ ► That and it blows your mind that when you start describing that as the eye of the beetle [TS]
00:04:04 ◼ ► and that's the that's the I'm of the angel of the self and all that makes it seem a bit silly. [TS]
00:04:17 ◼ ► and I really am one hundred percent OK with the constellations because I don't I don't think it's belittling It's just [TS]
00:04:26 ◼ ► I mean basically you're looking at a semi random scattering of white dots against a black background yes yes as a human [TS]
00:04:40 ◼ ► And there's I mean the constellations are comically arbitrary and so I you know I have. [TS]
00:04:49 ◼ ► They don't they don't mean anything in and of themselves but I'm perfectly fine with people talking about. [TS]
00:04:56 ◼ ► You are using the constellations as an anchor points to say to the left of little Ryans belting out a thing. [TS]
00:05:02 ◼ ► I see the utility of them and when and when that was us to guys out there in the dark [TS]
00:05:07 ◼ ► and he was trying to help me find things I say the purpose and I'm not saying I should be abolished [TS]
00:05:13 ◼ ► but I'd still pay it was a bit more passionate about the constellations and he should have been and I was like OK [TS]
00:05:19 ◼ ► and he was like isn't this wonderful we say that it's the line of the dragon of this and I'm like [TS]
00:05:24 ◼ ► but then he'd tell me by the way you know that star there it would take a seven four seven plane you know four million [TS]
00:05:39 ◼ ► and I'm perfectly fine with with people being it's a little long as they're aware of what it actually is. [TS]
00:06:00 ◼ ► As to the mass in passing if I get it wrong but I'll look it up later because otherwise I'll be typing for a while [TS]
00:06:05 ◼ ► but basically it's it's a universe simulator program and I use it in a few times in some of my lessons [TS]
00:06:15 ◼ ► and because I would teach the kids they were aware usually through you know the astrology of the star signs in the sky [TS]
00:06:25 ◼ ► and they usually stay as kids do you know I start from the perspective of Oh it it must mean something you know people [TS]
00:06:34 ◼ ► But one of the things you can do in the last year which I think is great is you can put this kind of camera as though [TS]
00:06:43 ◼ ► you are standing on Earth looking up at the night sky and the program world will connect the dots [TS]
00:06:48 ◼ ► and it will draw the constellations you can say OK here's where they all are today. [TS]
00:06:55 ◼ ► and it was a very successful like mind blown situation was you can then start moving the camera away from Earth. [TS]
00:07:19 ◼ ► You kind of forget that you're not actually looking at dots on the interior of a black sphere above your head you're [TS]
00:07:26 ◼ ► looking at things that are light years and light years further away or closer than each other [TS]
00:07:32 ◼ ► and so the constellation lines just become this this big spiky mess very fast as soon as you pull the camera away from [TS]
00:07:44 ◼ ► and I think was the best way to show that that you know if you think Scorpio is a real thing it isn't. [TS]
00:07:53 ◼ ► It's just we just connected nine. So very three dimensional out there. Yeah it's not it's not a thing again. [TS]
00:08:00 ◼ ► This guy so Isaac Asimov dealt with that really nicely a few times in the Foundation series toe from memory because you [TS]
00:08:05 ◼ ► know I say in this fictional galaxy where humans have spread throughout so everyone has a different a different take on [TS]
00:08:27 ◼ ► So it was a big it was a big supposedly big big event for the day I mean the the it's interesting isn't it shows how [TS]
00:08:35 ◼ ► when two people have sort of different twist of fate because I was we have this we can start to be bent like dominated [TS]
00:08:41 ◼ ► by Twitter fate it's like how could anyone possibly not know this was going on and they talk to you [TS]
00:08:46 ◼ ► and you're like what on earth you're talking about that I do not I don't even know what you talking about it all you [TS]
00:08:50 ◼ ► need to be something to Google Now what am I looking for the European Southern Observatory yesterday did I did sort of [TS]
00:09:12 ◼ ► or a network of tell it will be a single telescope and the like is ridiculous you know. [TS]
00:09:18 ◼ ► OK So you know it's you know it's people comparing you know making graphics comparing in size to things like pyramids [TS]
00:09:30 ◼ ► and I feel really attached to it because late last year I went up to this peak where that building it which was a real [TS]
00:09:44 ◼ ► and say they're going to they're going to blow the top of this mountain off because they need to flatten the top of the [TS]
00:09:53 ◼ ► So anyway the first blast was yesterday and there's all this hype and there was a live stream and you could what. [TS]
00:10:01 ◼ ► I was super excited because I was like oh wow I stood on that taken that's about to get blown off. [TS]
00:10:06 ◼ ► So never ever I was watching I think it must mean twenty thousand people watching the live stream [TS]
00:10:11 ◼ ► and I was looking at all the live comments and people getting frustrated during the speech is gone hurry up [TS]
00:10:18 ◼ ► and then fly like they did are getting more exploding it was filmed from quite a distance so I guess they had a [TS]
00:10:28 ◼ ► and I think we'll probably talk about the can do the that was on thing in a minute about how if you do something you [TS]
00:10:35 ◼ ► So I think people are expecting you know some kind of Vesuvius type moment where you know the mountain blew to pieces [TS]
00:10:45 ◼ ► the whole thing explodes rather than taking off the top which is seriously taking off the top is also overstating the [TS]
00:10:52 ◼ ► case that it really was a that and I love it and I love telescopes but this was rather a damp squid [TS]
00:11:02 ◼ ► and it really was just this little it looked like it looked like a little puff of dust not even have the dust at the. [TS]
00:11:09 ◼ ► Nothing changed. You're a lot of problems were loosened up which is the purpose right. [TS]
00:11:14 ◼ ► And and I will make it easier for them to stop and they going to do a lot more explosions. [TS]
00:11:18 ◼ ► But seriously it was the only thing that made it worth watching was watching all the live comments in the comment [TS]
00:11:24 ◼ ► section when it happened as people were outraged at the amount of time they've given and spent waiting for something. [TS]
00:11:33 ◼ ► I would say we'll link to the explosion in the show you know we have to know you have to send me the link I want to see [TS]
00:11:48 ◼ ► and it was seriously I can't say how excited I was to to go there it was a CO is an amazing place [TS]
00:12:04 ◼ ► Oh yeah and it is really cool to be in the place where there is going to be something [TS]
00:12:08 ◼ ► and then later on to see oh they're actually doing it now or they're really building it [TS]
00:12:13 ◼ ► and it's really becoming a thing so that I can I can definitely understand the excitement of that. [TS]
00:12:20 ◼ ► Well it might as well since it connects somewhat nicely as you want to talk briefly about the families on the phone [TS]
00:12:27 ◼ ► saying this just just very I can't remember what it was that I said last time that I was hoping it would be like a [TS]
00:12:38 ◼ ► but it was it was interesting to see because Amazon if you if you're listening to these episodes back to back now we [TS]
00:12:43 ◼ ► talked last time about Amazon pre hyping some product that they were going to announce [TS]
00:12:48 ◼ ► and it came out a couple days ago and I went to look and say oh what is the thing that Amazon released anyway [TS]
00:13:03 ◼ ► but isn't that a significant development for companies because Amazon brings out a phone that seems like a big thing to [TS]
00:13:08 ◼ ► me I'm not saying it isn't hard for Amazon to do I'm not saying that that's that's an easy thing for any company to [TS]
00:13:19 ◼ ► and the preview with everybody going oh wow it's so amazing this thing is just great you know you do this every day [TS]
00:13:27 ◼ ► this is going to change the way I do everything as I know it the phone is not going to change the way I do anything [TS]
00:13:32 ◼ ► because I already have a phone is it's really not this isn't this isn't anything new. [TS]
00:13:37 ◼ ► I mean they have a couple of little gimmicky features that they present to you some three day thing like if you tip on [TS]
00:13:52 ◼ ► and now you know what it is OK that is a good look at it is a nice looking object I mean look. Like a rectangle. [TS]
00:14:02 ◼ ► Like every phone in the whole universe does it it doesn't is not visually striking in any particular way [TS]
00:14:11 ◼ ► View which I mean from a technical perspective is is kind of interesting they put cameras on the front of the phone [TS]
00:14:20 ◼ ► when you turn the phone since it knows where your eyes are it knows how to adjust an image on the screen so that it it [TS]
00:14:27 ◼ ► appears to be three dimensional even though it's actually not obviously still a two dimensional surface. [TS]
00:14:35 ◼ ► but I have a hard time imagining how that's going to be any kind of great feature that I would I would feel compelled [TS]
00:14:43 ◼ ► to use my favorite my favorite thing about the for the phone which I didn't even notice at first [TS]
00:14:50 ◼ ► They have a physical button on the side of the phone which is they buy stuff from Amazon button. [TS]
00:15:02 ◼ ► and basically if they if the camera is looking at anything it will be able to find that thing on Amazon [TS]
00:15:08 ◼ ► and let you buy that thing just straight away which is on there and that's going to be so much fun. [TS]
00:15:13 ◼ ► Some of us are like Oh Amazon I can see very much why you would want people to use this phone. [TS]
00:15:19 ◼ ► Amazon is very good at getting things into your hands that allow you to buy more things from Amazon [TS]
00:15:26 ◼ ► but I think if you elevate the buy stuff from Amazon to a physical button on the side of the phone is I just thought it [TS]
00:15:33 ◼ ► was really funny and it makes it kind of really clear what what they're up to with that phone. [TS]
00:15:41 ◼ ► and the one thing I was going to say even though I did make this joke last time about I was going to be a personal [TS]
00:15:51 ◼ ► and even though I was explaining this effective they're just guarantying disappointment. [TS]
00:16:05 ◼ ► There was an interesting there was an interesting little thing that happened I showed the video to my wife because I [TS]
00:16:12 ◼ ► want to tell her the joke about it's a video of people discovering that they have genitals which meets them [TS]
00:16:19 ◼ ► and so I showed her the thing and she watches it and immediately she says oh they have some kind of three D. [TS]
00:16:30 ◼ ► and this was the moment where I realized I didn't even though I hadn't exactly filled out that I knew in my mind what I [TS]
00:16:38 ◼ ► wanted it to be and because I already clearly in my mind had a thing that I wanted to be. [TS]
00:16:43 ◼ ► I ignored to the obvious thing that everybody was doing about moving their heads back and forth [TS]
00:16:48 ◼ ► or move it clearly like off camera moving the things I decide my wife didn't have any expectations. [TS]
00:16:58 ◼ ► Phone or who knows when she comes back today maybe she's going to be showing me the amazing Amazon phone [TS]
00:17:06 ◼ ► and started pointing at everything in the house so she can buy more of those things from Amazon. [TS]
00:17:10 ◼ ► Well lucky there's nothing in there has been you know you'd be disappointed if she bought the Amazon Fire [TS]
00:17:21 ◼ ► I mean it's as if she wanted to have an Amazon phone you know I wouldn't be disappointed. [TS]
00:17:34 ◼ ► but no I wouldn't I wouldn't be disappointed I mean I would just like if people love them and I mean [TS]
00:17:39 ◼ ► and even if Amazon has a great ecosystem in the same way that Google or Apple does [TS]
00:17:46 ◼ ► and they want Amazon phones you know go buy an Amazon phone I guess that's that's good. [TS]
00:17:50 ◼ ► But anyway yeah so more disappointed than I thought it was going to be even though I was expecting to be disappointed [TS]
00:18:00 ◼ ► So what's wrong with the current Kindle and I don't know I mean do you have a long amount of time. [TS]
00:18:10 ◼ ► but it's not wrong enough to stop me from using it which makes me sad every day so I don't know this could be like this [TS]
00:18:18 ◼ ► could be like I think you want to hear some of my complaints about my Kindle. You probably don't. [TS]
00:18:23 ◼ ► Well well I actually don't I don't I'm sure I don't think they're going to be people listening saying cutting off now. [TS]
00:18:40 ◼ ► and I said to you before we got started that I think we're getting worse. Do his show. [TS]
00:18:53 ◼ ► but to make a chart that showed the progress of the length of the episodes as a function of time [TS]
00:18:59 ◼ ► and then the being a logarithmic function meaning that it increased rapidly very quickly [TS]
00:19:08 ◼ ► So whatever it is that predicted that fifty episodes from now the shows will be four hours long something like that [TS]
00:19:14 ◼ ► unless we start getting sick of it and we end up with some kind of calcium distribution [TS]
00:19:22 ◼ ► when I saw that graph the thing that also struck me is you could plot on the same axes amount of time spent in [TS]
00:19:32 ◼ ► and that was the decreasing exponential right at the start it off with an enormous amount of preparation for the first [TS]
00:19:46 ◼ ► and if I think it's interesting that the less preparation there is the longer the episodes are which is like that old [TS]
00:19:53 ◼ ► supposedly Abe Lincoln saying that you know I would've if I had more time I would have written you a shorter letter I [TS]
00:20:03 ◼ ► when it comes to preparation time I have been incredibly consistent that my leg room aeration that's that that is true [TS]
00:20:11 ◼ ► You have not prepared very much at all so this is really just it's a function of my amount of preparation which. [TS]
00:20:18 ◼ ► Yeah and you know me tell me tell me three things you don't like about the Kindle. OK three things. [TS]
00:20:26 ◼ ► OK OK Well I'm all right I'm mainly talking about I have a I own a Kindle Paperwhite which is the Kindle that has a [TS]
00:20:41 ◼ ► and yeah I've got it I wrote a far too long far too obsessive review about it that's on my website [TS]
00:20:49 ◼ ► and I'll put in the links I think I read that I think it was it was a really fun rage I fit for what I'm thinking of I [TS]
00:20:55 ◼ ► remember I remember that it seems you enjoy reading the things that I write in anger [TS]
00:20:59 ◼ ► or frustration at the USE THE seems to be consistent with you but. Anyway if I'm OK if I had to pick up pick one. [TS]
00:21:13 ◼ ► I swear if there's anybody who works at Amazon I need to know if there's a reason you don't let this happen. [TS]
00:21:20 ◼ ► Why why can't I have left align the text on my Kindle either on the Kindle Paperwhite or in the Kindle for i Pad [TS]
00:21:34 ◼ ► or on the Kindle for my Mac. Everywhere the only choice I have is full justification. [TS]
00:21:42 ◼ ► So paint a picture in words of people who don't know what I'm talking about people who know what I'm talking about are [TS]
00:21:48 ◼ ► already shaking their fists in sympathy rage but in case I want to you want to be allowed to have a raggedy right. [TS]
00:21:53 ◼ ► Yes that's that's what the other rag about so basically when you look at paragraphs on a Kindle. [TS]
00:22:01 ◼ ► If you draw a line down the margin on the left all the words match up with that line perfectly [TS]
00:22:08 ◼ ► and you have two options for what to do on the right hand side because every sentence isn't composed in the eating of [TS]
00:22:15 ◼ ► the exact same number of characters and what if you're if you're if you're in a house [TS]
00:22:25 ◼ ► If you open up a book made of paper you say that like that is like a really rare thing that maybe no one's ever heard [TS]
00:22:31 ◼ ► of I mean I guess you probably have a book made of paper right within your grasp now maybe do you I don't know if I can [TS]
00:22:41 ◼ ► reach one for my sake but if I stood up I could grab a whole bunch of them in a show full of them. [TS]
00:22:48 ◼ ► and I say that in particular to contrast this to things you normally see on the web if you open up one of those what [TS]
00:23:06 ◼ ► It looks like it's a parallel line with the left margin all the words come up to the edge. [TS]
00:23:11 ◼ ► But what they do is they break longer words with a little hyphens so it continues on the next line. [TS]
00:23:17 ◼ ► And that's pretty rare because they're pretty good at setting them so that doesn't happen too often. [TS]
00:23:23 ◼ ► Yeah if you if you look at a book and it's even on the one side you will see the hyphenation [TS]
00:23:28 ◼ ► and that's how they keep it relatively even yet. And yes that is rare for a whole a whole variety of reasons. [TS]
00:23:35 ◼ ► You don't want to tell you that if you don't have to but there are computer programs that do it [TS]
00:23:42 ◼ ► and it's not exactly a programming language with a markup language called late tech [TS]
00:23:48 ◼ ► and then a computer program just for simplicity but it's it's for writing up beautiful looking documents [TS]
00:23:56 ◼ ► and it will automatically do the whole. If any of the words on the right side. So it looks nice and pretty. Yeah. [TS]
00:24:09 ◼ ► Maybe there's some patent issue but let's just say for some reason Amazon can't do that. [TS]
00:24:15 ◼ ► but let's just say their next best solution is to have a ragged right edge which means make make this space is the same [TS]
00:24:40 ◼ ► and you look at the text you will see that on every line the spaces are different with you as they stretch [TS]
00:24:55 ◼ ► I here's the thing it does sometimes look clumsy I'll give you that it is not even just that it sometimes looks clumsy. [TS]
00:25:05 ◼ ► I have a much harder time reading stuff like this where the spaces are uneven and on occasion when I go back [TS]
00:25:20 ◼ ► And so sometimes I have to read something on I book because it wasn't available in Kindle or or whatever [TS]
00:25:25 ◼ ► and I'll be reading something and I'll realize you know thirty minutes into reading that is so much less of a strain [TS]
00:25:33 ◼ ► Oh right because Apple does the right edge thing right they don't they don't fully justify the words it's just it's a [TS]
00:25:43 ◼ ► It's so much nicer or the occasional other things that I read if they do the ragged right it's just it's much easier. [TS]
00:25:56 ◼ ► I'm not asking for the moon and the stars here. I'm not asking for a Kindle that can also do my dishes right. [TS]
00:26:04 ◼ ► I'm just asking for a typesetting option that has been around since the dawn of time. [TS]
00:26:16 ◼ ► Yeah I'm sure they were right like you have to rap that you have to wrap the picture around at the next line of the [TS]
00:26:22 ◼ ► antelope you don't if you don't see one even spreading on the walls you want to make it look nice. [TS]
00:26:31 ◼ ► All I know I know someone who's in the computer file videos who's a real expert on this and I'm going to talk to him [TS]
00:26:41 ◼ ► I wired says maybe there's a reason why honest honest to God I would feel better if there was a reason I would because [TS]
00:26:49 ◼ ► and it's here that I do have I do have a little philosophy that I try to keep in mind which is. [TS]
00:26:56 ◼ ► Whenever you are observing an entity from the outside and they are apparently engaged in crazy [TS]
00:27:05 ◼ ► or irrational behavior it's rarely because the entity is actually irrational it's usually because you are lacking some [TS]
00:27:24 ◼ ► And then if you're able to get insider access you realize oh OK from from the people on the inside from their [TS]
00:27:32 ◼ ► I hope there is some reason like that with Amazon because otherwise they're doing it to torment me [TS]
00:27:52 ◼ ► But I really love that I really love having the Kindle as a not i Pad for reading on it. [TS]
00:28:00 ◼ ► Doesn't it doesn't have distractions I can't go. Who I wonder if somebody said something funny on Twitter. [TS]
00:28:04 ◼ ► Now I'm just there with a with a book basically and I don't have any other options. [TS]
00:28:11 ◼ ► but I have my Kindle set up in this crazy way to try to minimize the word spacing problem. [TS]
00:28:17 ◼ ► I do the whole thing in landscape mode I've shrunk down the text size so it's like two small relief or comfort [TS]
00:28:27 ◼ ► It just it angers me to no end that I don't know what it is I have a whole bunch of other things that drive me crazy [TS]
00:28:34 ◼ ► others reel them off because it doesn't even matter now. I mean that's the main thing. [TS]
00:28:43 ◼ ► So we think oh this is great I can organize my books into little folders called things to read things that I have read [TS]
00:28:59 ◼ ► and they have to have some bizarro import function which will synchronize it but only once [TS]
00:29:04 ◼ ► and you have to do it manually. The heck with you can't collections I don't even use your worthless. [TS]
00:29:13 ◼ ► If I'm terrified to tap on any footnotes in books which are something you can imagine I might want to do often go where [TS]
00:29:19 ◼ ► the patient come from let me tap on this. This footnote. Oh if you do it wrong then it thinks you finish the book. [TS]
00:29:25 ◼ ► Oh look you're in the European is a book you must finish reading this book. Isn't that great for you. [TS]
00:29:35 ◼ ► That's actually something that will bother mention a second but yeah so i meant the footnotes at the end of the like O. [TS]
00:29:40 ◼ ► Them each have to go back you know eight out of ten times it works two out of ten times it doesn't which makes you [TS]
00:29:47 ◼ ► never want to tap it because you lose your place and then I have to try to like OK I have to put a bookmark in here [TS]
00:29:53 ◼ ► and they've made the bookmark process more clumsy on the on the paper why it's now is like a three tab process to put a [TS]
00:30:00 ◼ ► and this just Wow And one last thing one last thing is I'll just say why can't I have a scrolling view. [TS]
00:30:12 ◼ ► and down because I do lots of highlights in my book tons of highlights for future videos and future reference. [TS]
00:30:20 ◼ ► If I want to go back and look at those highlights and I'm going through them the Kindle jumps to the highlight [TS]
00:30:34 ◼ ► So I would like to see what's just a little above the highlight but I can't just scroll down. [TS]
00:30:39 ◼ ► I have to go to the whole previous page that is on my mac on my i Pad on anything I can [TS]
00:30:45 ◼ ► and I can't just look up a little bit. You know all these things I can do when I book totally reasonably. [TS]
00:30:56 ◼ ► and I mean the instant you get to the last page of any Kindle book it pulls up a big page that says read this book [TS]
00:31:06 ◼ ► and buy another book and feel like. If you kindle give me a second to have that oh I just finished a book feeling. [TS]
00:31:15 ◼ ► Wow you know that was a great experience reading through this Lord Of The Rings trilogy. [TS]
00:31:20 ◼ ► Hey do you want to buy a story of Fire and Ice by God like Just give me a second. Just give me a second. [TS]
00:31:27 ◼ ► I'll buy one point you could be in tears at that point at the emotional end to the computers right. Yeah yeah. [TS]
00:31:32 ◼ ► Or even even just like just that experience of oh I've come to the end of a book I'm going to I'm going to now just [TS]
00:31:38 ◼ ► think about it for a minute think about this experience that I just had no right it right now. [TS]
00:31:43 ◼ ► Quantifying your experience one to five stars ahead even if it's just give me five seconds at a five second delay [TS]
00:31:55 ◼ ► and I would hate it so much less. Sorry someone's got there. Imation chip in today is just this. [TS]
00:32:03 ◼ ► I come across this with so many products where the. Here's here's here's the thing. [TS]
00:32:09 ◼ ► Brady there's nothing better but this is the best e-book reading solution that exists. [TS]
00:32:16 ◼ ► So that's why I'm chained to all of these things that I hate because there is no alternative. [TS]
00:32:23 ◼ ► And the it's like the I have a number of these kind of products in my life one day we will talk about i Pad styli [TS]
00:32:34 ◼ ► But it's just it's all of these things it feels it feels like oh everything's running along smoothly like the gears in [TS]
00:32:43 ◼ ► and then something like that everything grinds to a halt because there's some little problem with the thing that I'm [TS]
00:32:49 ◼ ► using and there's nothing I can do I just have to keep using it and I have to keep waiting. [TS]
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00:34:37 ◼ ► Do you know I really wanted I never wanted a kindo he said I didn't want one but I was given one for Christmas. [TS]
00:34:46 ◼ ► June I want more I think about what you think about it pretty good. Pleasantly surprised. [TS]
00:34:52 ◼ ► That's related to an etiquette you would give that name or is it when the other ones. [TS]
00:35:04 ◼ ► and I don't this is very frustrating does it have a little little square button on the bottom. [TS]
00:35:10 ◼ ► I can't believe I have to I feel like I feel like I'm on tech support with my mother [TS]
00:35:14 ◼ ► or something like it can you describe the physical thing to me What are you looking for a rectangle. [TS]
00:35:24 ◼ ► But at least I don't use the Amazon for the Kindle what Kindle forget it I think it's a pretty basic one there's no [TS]
00:35:32 ◼ ► It probably has a little square button on the bottom are their page turning buttons on the side of the page [TS]
00:35:37 ◼ ► but I think I touch the screen to turn the button to turn the page from God not just turn around and read the book. [TS]
00:35:45 ◼ ► OK I like them I just want to know what it was I found out and I never know what products I have [TS]
00:35:51 ◼ ► when it comes to that is it is of the X. Five thousand you know Deluxe I honestly I wish I could be like you in this. [TS]
00:36:08 ◼ ► Tell you what you should try some of those paper book things they're really not for that I know they look at you know [TS]
00:36:16 ◼ ► you can get a good idea of your paper but other word Asians live you cannot even try to convince. [TS]
00:36:25 ◼ ► and it's because they are they are a much worse reading experience in every way every way in every way every way except [TS]
00:36:35 ◼ ► What about the tactile experience that is worth about what about them as just a little cultural objects of loveliness. [TS]
00:36:44 ◼ ► I mean now you're just you just poking me with a stick is what you're doing with a question like that you know what [TS]
00:36:50 ◼ ► you're up to there. Now the book I mean their book is if you follow you've been in libraries you know I mean I. [TS]
00:36:57 ◼ ► I love all things don't try to pin me down here the thing I didn't say I love libraries. I'm very happy life. [TS]
00:37:07 ◼ ► but you do like a lot of these Look that's my question do you know your libraries look over your shelves of books I do [TS]
00:37:18 ◼ ► but in the future if you ever stop in the British Museum for those who have been it is a beautiful new museum. [TS]
00:37:27 ◼ ► You walk in and they have this kind of indoor amazing white area with this glass skylight above the top [TS]
00:37:35 ◼ ► and in the center there is this cylindrical room do you know what I'm talking about off the top of your head Brady I [TS]
00:37:42 ◼ ► but I'll put a picture in the show not actually let me just find something for you quickly because what you perceive us. [TS]
00:37:53 ◼ ► Pukka Pedia always to the rescue. It's be fun to edit later. I'm clicking on it now. [TS]
00:38:08 ◼ ► I know I look at that I think I have some national I don't know if anybody ever comes to visit London you know the [TS]
00:38:16 ◼ ► British Museum it's got to be pretty high up on the list of things to see now what I think is a total tragedy is that [TS]
00:38:25 ◼ ► well tragedy is not quite the right way round it is again I understand why it happened [TS]
00:38:29 ◼ ► but that that central column in the middle of the British Museum it used to be a library. [TS]
00:38:40 ◼ ► He's technically with a reading room I'm going to send you a picture of what it used to look like on the inside which I [TS]
00:38:47 ◼ ► would put as one of the most gorgeous libraries I have ever seen in my entire life. That's right us. [TS]
00:38:54 ◼ ► You know it is for the listeners. If you're driving in the car somewhere I will just briefly describe it to you. [TS]
00:39:00 ◼ ► Imagine if you're standing inside a cylindrical building and all around the walls on the outside nothing but books [TS]
00:39:14 ◼ ► It's just it's just a gorgeous gorgeous library but now if you go to the British Museum. [TS]
00:39:21 ◼ ► That area is a rotating a rotating exhibit. So the British Museum will always have something special on the bill. [TS]
00:39:31 ◼ ► They'll have you know how light you know how museums they trade exhibits with each other you know there's a temporary [TS]
00:39:43 ◼ ► and that's the part of the museum that they do charge you access to see whatever the special exhibit is now I'm totally [TS]
00:39:53 ◼ ► You know ninety nine percent of the British Museum is free it's great I'm glad people can just walk in. [TS]
00:40:12 ◼ ► I think if we pick one in America anybody listening in Salt Lake City your library is just beautiful I absolutely [TS]
00:40:19 ◼ ► adored Salt Lake City library. It's just the best. So Libraries are great. So don't don't try to get me to be N.T. [TS]
00:40:27 ◼ ► But if you're trying to get me to buy some book made of paper instead of buying a book electronically you're never [TS]
00:40:39 ◼ ► but as soon as electronic books were available I thought oh this is much better in every possible way I can search the [TS]
00:40:44 ◼ ► text I can have all my highlights I can search through all of my highlights on all of my books at any time that I ever [TS]
00:40:56 ◼ ► This is just this is just the best so I don't. I don't agree with the I don't think I agree with you. [TS]
00:41:03 ◼ ► and don't get me wrong since I got my Kindle I have also I mean I've pretty much stopped buying books any time I'm in a [TS]
00:41:15 ◼ ► So much has changed my behavior and I do see the merit of electronic books for the reasons you say search ability [TS]
00:41:27 ◼ ► and also you know it's a lot easier to tech you can do on a plane than four or five books [TS]
00:41:36 ◼ ► and if there was a book I loved I would buy the paper version even if I read on my Kindle just to just to just to have [TS]
00:41:49 ◼ ► I mean you know I can look at a picture of the Mona Lisa or I can look at it in the loo. [TS]
00:42:06 ◼ ► when you read a book in operating the original manuscript as written by the author [TS]
00:42:09 ◼ ► but this is there's a context an experience that the books intended for and I think still [TS]
00:42:28 ◼ ► but I would say Enough of the books that I have read are published in e-book format only then than the intended [TS]
00:42:43 ◼ ► and I was younger authors are more comparable with the notion of electronic only books [TS]
00:42:56 ◼ ► and they're like little they like sitting on your shelf there that I don't mean the trophies as in you know you deserve [TS]
00:43:07 ◼ ► but they're kind of like this this sort of reflection of who you are what you like and what you believe [TS]
00:43:18 ◼ ► and looking at the books on their bookshelf was a nice thing and putting books on your bookshelf is a nice thing. [TS]
00:43:24 ◼ ► And as we say all this I'm looking at the books on my shelf and. But I'm not it reflects it reflects me in a nice way. [TS]
00:43:32 ◼ ► Now I think they are and I think they do that nicely and in a way that a Kindle doesn't and [TS]
00:43:36 ◼ ► and of course you don't because we won't agree on this because of course you integrate because we have this different [TS]
00:43:42 ◼ ► attitude to objects and decoration and that but I think there are I think I serve that purpose today. [TS]
00:43:48 ◼ ► Yeah I mean if I was if I was going to if I was the kind of person who would decorate my house well I mean that's just [TS]
00:44:00 ◼ ► No You know no doubt I would be the kind of person who would just have a house filled with books. [TS]
00:44:05 ◼ ► Yeah it's that of the constraint of the time and I would never feel like oh all these books are gross. [TS]
00:44:12 ◼ ► I wouldn't I wouldn't have that feeling and I know that because when I was younger [TS]
00:44:23 ◼ ► when I first moved from New York to London I happened to look at the pictures of me packing a little while ago I could [TS]
00:44:41 ◼ ► and it's like Who was that person who who packed such heavy objects in his suitcase just to start with [TS]
00:44:55 ◼ ► and to see how you change over time in these ways that you become a very different person [TS]
00:45:02 ◼ ► and so if I had to be I can I can understand the appreciation of books I'm just I'm at a stage in my life now where I [TS]
00:45:09 ◼ ► feel like I am much much rather have the electronic version of the book than the physical book [TS]
00:45:15 ◼ ► but I can understand the notion of if you're going to decorate your house having the books that you've read. [TS]
00:45:23 ◼ ► Visible to people can enjoy books do you enjoy bookstores they love my favorite shops to go into [TS]
00:45:33 ◼ ► Because I mean is that partly because no matter how much I was on my tribe there is no replicating just wandering [TS]
00:45:42 ◼ ► and discovering randomly books that way you just can't replicate that experience no matter how good your recommendation [TS]
00:45:51 ◼ ► algorithm is that you don't enjoy that experience enough to sustain it by buying books from now on. I mean now. [TS]
00:46:03 ◼ ► or would you give some money for them still to be printed on paper just for the well finance of that experience. [TS]
00:46:13 ◼ ► I mean I mean the printed books will go yeah this is this is it this is an interesting question [TS]
00:46:18 ◼ ► but I mean I guess my behavior clearly shows which way it goes I am a total each to bookstores I you know [TS]
00:46:25 ◼ ► when I look around and if I see a book I think I make a note in my i Phone and i will buy it later. [TS]
00:46:32 ◼ ► So you know and I I feel I feel conflicted here I don't think I got other bookstore owners listening right now [TS]
00:46:51 ◼ ► I don't think that that is terrible that just that just is a thing that is there isn't a value judgement there. [TS]
00:47:01 ◼ ► If you like technology and economics change over time so that certain things are no longer adequately viable [TS]
00:47:11 ◼ ► and I think in the not too distant future the the notion of independent bookstores in particular [TS]
00:47:20 ◼ ► but just bookstores in general. I mean they're they're clearly they're clearly on the way out. [TS]
00:47:26 ◼ ► Yeah I don't think they'll ever be completely gone because I think there will always be people who do like physical [TS]
00:47:34 ◼ ► and what happens is as the number of bookstores diminishes the business necessarily has to go to a smaller number of [TS]
00:47:44 ◼ ► So I think there will always be some but it won't be like I mean one number I was when I was a kid [TS]
00:47:51 ◼ ► and there were bookstores everywhere because that's where you got books so you could expose yourself to the wider world. [TS]
00:47:58 ◼ ► That's just that. That model. The of the way things work just doesn't doesn't exist anymore so sorry. [TS]
00:48:11 ◼ ► and I didn't think you'd forget because I thought you were really looking forward to it was an ad from the last. [TS]
00:48:19 ◼ ► Oh yeah I like look I'm saving myself up on a plate here. I wasn't even going to mention it. [TS]
00:48:36 ◼ ► I guess for those who didn't notice in Brady's previous ad for audible which he did very hastily as a favor to his [TS]
00:48:59 ◼ ► and I thought that this was this was a kind of the interesting moment because I found this to be hilarious because this [TS]
00:49:10 ◼ ► book must be on every required reading list for almost every high school kid in America. [TS]
00:49:17 ◼ ► And then when you said oh I don't it was especially funny because you're recommending it [TS]
00:49:24 ◼ ► and I haven't looked a lot into it we should clarify the reason I recommended that book was because of you I had [TS]
00:49:32 ◼ ► contacted us not of you I don't cook listeners US shows this is a You Tube thing isn't it. [TS]
00:49:38 ◼ ► I listen had recommended it because he had been listening to it and the word freebooting was used [TS]
00:49:45 ◼ ► and so is bit of a joke in the ad I said Isn't it funny this book's got free beating it [TS]
00:49:53 ◼ ► Basically is what I said because I don't know I don't know but this is what I'm recommending. [TS]
00:50:04 ◼ ► and I said I personally don't know the book you found that very funny of course because the book is very famous in some [TS]
00:50:16 ◼ ► Yes So this is I just thought it was it was a it was a funny little funny little thing because what I also liked about [TS]
00:50:23 ◼ ► this this moment is and we sort of talk about instant messenger because you want to you want to redo the ad. [TS]
00:50:34 ◼ ► when I said Do I need to refer to it like is a soap that is such a big problem that I literally do it because I don't [TS]
00:50:44 ◼ ► when she said once you explained I was I was quite happy for you to use to use the ad I have since been doing a bit of [TS]
00:50:51 ◼ ► I mentioned I went to a bookstore the other day I asked them if they had that book because I was going to buy if they [TS]
00:50:56 ◼ ► did they did not use them and then I asked all the staff there if they had heard of the book. [TS]
00:51:09 ◼ ► and I have asked numerous other people in my you know not no not Americans I've asked numerous Americans have they [TS]
00:51:31 ◼ ► And this is this this was just a little funny moment because yeah I just it made me realize how I thought oh even [TS]
00:51:41 ◼ ► when you've lived abroad forever you still always end up having these kind of cultural assumptions that every once in a [TS]
00:51:49 ◼ ► while just get brushed the wrong way and we were talking and it's a message I realize later. [TS]
00:51:53 ◼ ► Well of course there's no reason anyone in anyone who's not American would read this book. [TS]
00:52:00 ◼ ► Look is particularly related to the horrors of the meat packing industry at the turn of the last century [TS]
00:52:07 ◼ ► and there's I can't conceive of a reason why it would be an anybody else's school curriculum. [TS]
00:52:14 ◼ ► As I said I thought that I just thought that that was that was funny but I didn't think it was it was hilarious [TS]
00:52:19 ◼ ► when I first heard the ad and I was talking to my dad on Father's Day and he did bring it up. [TS]
00:52:28 ◼ ► Did Brady say uptown to Claire did he really not know what the jungle was I mean I definitely didn't know the jungle [TS]
00:52:34 ◼ ► was saying uptown was also sloppiness because the person who tweeted I think got auto corrected. [TS]
00:52:42 ◼ ► So it was actually misspelled in the twit and I just took a tweet and said I recommended this book by this S. [TS]
00:52:47 ◼ ► and I didn't that's pure sloppiness on my behalf because I was you know I should've looked up the book [TS]
00:53:01 ◼ ► Very quickly though I may be saying I was under the pressure is maybe I was right in that case there was also a high [TS]
00:53:12 ◼ ► Probably read the book at some point just now because I'm curious now that good luck with that is it is it is a good [TS]
00:53:22 ◼ ► I mean is is almost anything on the required reading list in school is a good read [TS]
00:53:27 ◼ ► and I think I think those are a lot of important books not a lot of good books especially [TS]
00:53:37 ◼ ► when I was sixteen then one of my required books in a strategy was to kill a mockingbird. [TS]
00:53:46 ◼ ► Yeah I remember I remember liking it yeah I did like it and it's more being bored. [TS]
00:53:52 ◼ ► That's my recollection of most of the books but I was required to read in high school it was this is really boring. [TS]
00:53:59 ◼ ► This is terribly. Boring where they could not speak. Gosh. So now I'm going out I don't remember anyway. [TS]
00:54:12 ◼ ► I am suitably embarrassed I hadn't heard of the book. I'm sorry what else we got here in the followup. [TS]
00:54:19 ◼ ► You've written something about my typing in the fall. You can have another swipe at me. [TS]
00:54:32 ◼ ► and I gave you a hard time at the end of the last one about not understanding human so it's my turn to take a slapping [TS]
00:54:37 ◼ ► the other was that there was a fight you mentioned on the last show that Brady can be used to mean slow [TS]
00:55:06 ◼ ► and I don't want Brady typing to be a thing behind because all your fans REALLY love you [TS]
00:55:25 ◼ ► The notion of Brady typing in a hunt and peck typing is descriptive. Brady typing is hilarious. [TS]
00:55:32 ◼ ► Well I'm not I'm not going to go with you pushing it but I did say that comment on the read was it was clever. [TS]
00:55:46 ◼ ► What was the what was the fallout from my paper in the last episode about this humbled [TS]
00:55:52 ◼ ► and honored thing did you did you think any more about this. Joe Yeah yeah yeah. So so I thought about this a lot. [TS]
00:56:00 ◼ ► And should we give any context for our legion of new listeners who have just changed in for the first time to have the [TS]
00:56:14 ◼ ► when people who are saying something that could be perhaps describe just boastful will say that they were humbled by [TS]
00:56:26 ◼ ► I would then say I won the Nobel Prize yesterday and I must say I found it a humbling experience [TS]
00:56:36 ◼ ► and I don't think it's a proper use of the word humble Yes So I was going to say as I was thinking about this bunch [TS]
00:56:44 ◼ ► and we had we happen to independently hit on the same thing you sent me something minutes after I had added it to the [TS]
00:56:51 ◼ ► the show notes for us which is. I think the word These people should be using is honored. [TS]
00:57:05 ◼ ► or you're late last week I was trying to imagine you're standing in a in a soccer stadium [TS]
00:57:10 ◼ ► and all these people are cheering you and you're reaching for a word and I can see why people reach for humbled [TS]
00:57:17 ◼ ► but I think the word really should be honored. I don't I don't agree with you on this. [TS]
00:57:23 ◼ ► Rila I agree with you that that is a correct word to use and the sentence makes sense [TS]
00:57:29 ◼ ► when that word is used by folks who agreed with me. None not that I say I agree with. [TS]
00:57:34 ◼ ► That's that would be a correct thing to say and if someone said that and many people do say that [TS]
00:57:47 ◼ ► but I think they are trying to I think they're trying to cover them cover their back a bit [TS]
00:57:53 ◼ ► and not want to sound like they're boasting so I think they are saying humbled to it. [TS]
00:58:01 ◼ ► To cancel out the post where as if you said you are not you know canceling out the poster just because being polite [TS]
00:58:11 ◼ ► and shows that that where we are talking about there are scenarios in which it's impossible to not recognize your [TS]
00:58:26 ◼ ► Yet there was a guy there was a guy actually the day after the podcast went out they the night Woods were announced for [TS]
00:58:39 ◼ ► and he put out a tweet saying I am I am humbled to have her say it's not good that you should be honored honored to [TS]
00:58:48 ◼ ► but I think maybe in some cases it is just a mangling of the language in a mistake [TS]
00:58:53 ◼ ► but I think sometimes people are saying it in a in a kind of folks mostly Maybe I'm wrong [TS]
00:58:59 ◼ ► and I'm being too judgmental if it is false modesty I mean I don't go along with that you should be. [TS]
00:59:14 ◼ ► It's like it's like the humble brag that it's the same kind of thing it's worse than just saying nothing. [TS]
00:59:23 ◼ ► I think of a good example will brag up top of my head but I don't know what you mean by that [TS]
00:59:29 ◼ ► but you know what I know now I have to look OK this is humble brags incessantly from the jungle [TS]
00:59:34 ◼ ► or something I'm unfamiliar with. Now though I am Sinclair and he's clever use of words. [TS]
00:59:44 ◼ ► Now let's OK so that's as good an urban dictionary there is good at that humble brag subtly letting others know how [TS]
00:59:55 ◼ ► fantastic your life is while undercutting it with a bit of self effacing. You Martin give it what's an example. [TS]
01:00:08 ◼ ► I just ate my fifteenth piece of fried chocolate while flying first class if I don't stop this they're going to cancel [TS]
01:00:25 ◼ ► So I think I think using using humbled in a situation where you should be using on it is is like a humble brag. [TS]
01:00:33 ◼ ► Yeah of course that's exactly what it is that others are and they are helping with humble innit. Now that's good. [TS]
01:00:42 ◼ ► If anyone wants to put their best possible humble brag into the B.S. That would amuse me incredibly. [TS]
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01:02:53 ◼ ► The one thing one last thing I wanted to I wanted to mention and I don't really know if it counts as follow up [TS]
01:03:18 ◼ ► but it's something that you have got a humble brag. No I'm not going to humble brag. [TS]
01:03:32 ◼ ► and he is he works at TED Ed who make the best educational videos for anyone who has never had bit of a side project on [TS]
01:03:54 ◼ ► but I I I knew about it because we talked about it a lot when I saw him recently say it's cold. Call me Ishmael. [TS]
01:04:02 ◼ ► So will it be in the book same going as well so it's very appropriate for this episode. [TS]
01:04:22 ◼ ► Basically he set up a phone number that you cannot ring you can ring and leave an answer phone message [TS]
01:04:28 ◼ ► and the message you're supposed to leave is I would say a review but it's just a short discussion [TS]
01:04:41 ◼ ► or affected you in some way I always have something to say about that book and then he didn't take these recordings [TS]
01:04:52 ◼ ► but it's really interesting it is hearing anonymous people who hold up this voice mail [TS]
01:04:56 ◼ ► and leave a message at that book and they're very very captivating is a very clever idea. [TS]
01:05:01 ◼ ► He's executed it very nicely and in every different way on the Web site in the videos and that looks great. [TS]
01:05:11 ◼ ► I gave a bit of a shout out on Twitter which Slocum was really grateful for and I felt like I was doing my bit [TS]
01:05:19 ◼ ► John Graeme then twenty to the poor old Logan I think got three hundred messages in five minutes. [TS]
01:05:32 ◼ ► or many of whom have a great interest in books so I will say it was a very it was a perfect storm [TS]
01:05:38 ◼ ► but any success that it does have or is having is well deserved and Logan's top guy he's had a good idea. [TS]
01:05:48 ◼ ► You should check it out because I think you'll like it and it's theirs and I just have one with the sound down now [TS]
01:06:02 ◼ ► Yeah it's being typed on screen as the person that was that was that's just a visual device I think he had a few [TS]
01:06:09 ◼ ► different visual devices he was playing with just so that if you're going to put these on those You Tube videos right [TS]
01:06:17 ◼ ► Yes I mean that's not massively relevant to but it just makes it it does make it a bit easier to listen to them [TS]
01:06:23 ◼ ► and watch so I think it works well but well worth a look so check it out I'm sure grandpa link in the notes and [TS]
01:06:32 ◼ ► and well done I can smack that is actually a much more real and this is it's good guy [TS]
01:06:40 ◼ ► but we're not going to stop the whole pod curtain sit here and watch it for the next day I was looking at the thing. [TS]
01:06:45 ◼ ► You're right it is captivating. It's this reminds this reminds this I don't know it's very. [TS]
01:06:55 ◼ ► I don't know it's almost very Radio Lab in a way where you have had people call in and they do. [TS]
01:07:00 ◼ ► Yeah the credits and it has a particular field to it. Yeah this is very interesting this is very interesting. [TS]
01:07:10 ◼ ► Yeah OK I have to stop watch now though I didn't really have to Vinny. Yes I will put that put that in the show notes. [TS]
01:07:29 ◼ ► There's been a lot of planning going into this he hasn't just done this on a whim. [TS]
01:07:32 ◼ ► He's like you know he's put into it and done a lot of the work and the idea has evolved a lot over time [TS]
01:07:48 ◼ ► but I have watched a lot of Star Trek The Next Generation so I don't know if that that fully counts but I see. [TS]
01:08:02 ◼ ► I got really into Star Trek Next Generation for iron I went through a period where the period [TS]
01:08:09 ◼ ► when I got really into them was found I guess I wasn't I wasn't I entered the what the one that really gripped me for [TS]
01:08:16 ◼ ► some reason and don't judge me for this was Voyager. Just I think I'll just do the timing. [TS]
01:08:23 ◼ ► I just happen to have a summer where I had a few weeks off work when they were all out in the video shop [TS]
01:08:32 ◼ ► or not watch like I go to the video shot multiple times in the day thinking I'll just watch two [TS]
01:08:47 ◼ ► and then take them back like a few hours later and read the next one so I was mowing through them. [TS]
01:08:55 ◼ ► I Well here's the thing I will not judge you for Voyager I cannot judge you for Voyager at all because I actually [TS]
01:09:02 ◼ ► really quite like Voyager as well and I know that if you like Star Trek you're not supposed to like Voyager. [TS]
01:09:09 ◼ ► but I think it's also just because the age that I was his voice Voyager because I remember watching next generation on [TS]
01:09:17 ◼ ► when I was a kid but I was I was a younger kid then and I think what Voyager was on at the tail end of [TS]
01:09:24 ◼ ► when I was in high school. And I had my best friend high school and his his family were big Trekkies. [TS]
01:09:34 ◼ ► I've never been a huge Trekkie but I feel like I've always been surrounded by turkeys like my wife is a big Trekkie [TS]
01:09:40 ◼ ► and I always ended up watching Voyager episodes with his family when I was in high school and so I really like them [TS]
01:09:48 ◼ ► and yes I think the first well I've ended up I think I've watched how many times have I gone through Voyager with my [TS]
01:10:03 ◼ ► but we do we do have to skip some of the earlier seasons because it is a little bit rough when it starts out. [TS]
01:10:09 ◼ ► But yeah I like Voyager I think Voyager is fun and I think I think Kate Mulgrew does an amazing job as Janeway [TS]
01:10:29 ◼ ► I always find myself with Star Trek getting very very frustrated with the things that I want them to do that they don't [TS]
01:10:34 ◼ ► do with a lack of consistency consistency with shows but still they're fun and I like Voyager. [TS]
01:10:40 ◼ ► Even if even if it is a little a little silly and a little low on the totem pole as far as techie people go [TS]
01:10:46 ◼ ► but I hear there's something we should have discussed near the start and so it's too late now. [TS]
01:11:06 ◼ ► but we have a we haven't really explains to people and it's gotten a bit more complicated now. [TS]
01:11:14 ◼ ► Oh because right because some people I think haven't quite grasped that the podcasts are going up on the You Tube [TS]
01:11:32 ◼ ► when a new one goes up there it's usually a new one is going up in real time so I just want to say that I want people [TS]
01:11:40 ◼ ► people should realize that that I kind of sort of said maybe we should have a broadcast day on there or something [TS]
01:11:53 ◼ ► But up to date stuff talking about what's happening in our lives now as opposed to in our lives a couple of months ago. [TS]
01:12:00 ◼ ► They should be listening so you are you are talking now for the people who are listening to you too. [TS]
01:12:10 ◼ ► Well right now but of course this is maybe two months in the future from when we're recording it right now. [TS]
01:12:25 ◼ ► and the only good thing that you're incapable of months in the future as well in which case you're also behind [TS]
01:12:33 ◼ ► So far into the future that this is already gone and you cheat on your behind that even so it does get messy. [TS]
01:12:46 ◼ ► If you think I'm going to go after after we're both gone you know everything about that. [TS]
01:12:51 ◼ ► That's creepy you know but it happened all those number files after year after year gone either. [TS]
01:12:57 ◼ ► I mean this already happening to me I have had people feature in my videos are no longer alive a few here [TS]
01:13:12 ◼ ► But the thing that's complicating the You Tube thing as well is this new development which we did it was the last [TS]
01:13:23 ◼ ► I will I will I will accept full blame for the confusion over the situation. So so what. [TS]
01:13:30 ◼ ► So what we're doing is sometimes if there's something in the i Tunes i Pod cast that we decide to cut gray snipping [TS]
01:13:40 ◼ ► those things out but will upload it to the You Tube channel so you can listen to it kind of like as a D.V.D. [TS]
01:13:53 ◼ ► So I suddenly just this snippet will appear on the You Tube channel in sync with a new release here on i Tunes and. [TS]
01:14:05 ◼ ► and it's only happening because there's no there's no other place to put these little things I don't know how often [TS]
01:14:12 ◼ ► but for for those who are who have just listen to the podcast who who haven't subscribed on You Tube We put a little section [TS]
01:14:23 ◼ ► and we cut it out because the last podcast was already I think was over two hours in the end it was just really long [TS]
01:14:33 ◼ ► and that section that's actually was one of the things where lots of people probably weren't that interested [TS]
01:14:50 ◼ ► We don't I don't want to put in the regular podcast feed because then that defeats the whole purpose of cutting it out [TS]
01:14:57 ◼ ► and so yes if you I guess if the problem is like if if you want the full hello internet experience you would need to be [TS]
01:15:04 ◼ ► subscribed to both the You Tube channel and the podcast because the little extras will go up on You Tube. [TS]
01:15:12 ◼ ► Yeah and the current up to date version of the podcast will always be the audio version [TS]
01:15:19 ◼ ► and the You Tube video version will always be a little bit behind the audio portion so that that's the way it's going [TS]
01:15:30 ◼ ► or if it was me that a nuclear war I was talking the worst that a male you may do a cut that out [TS]
01:15:35 ◼ ► and make an extra be on the You Tube channel. Yes that would be the most unhelpful way to possibly do it. [TS]
01:15:41 ◼ ► If you're listening to this is an extra on the You Tube channel right now you know what happened [TS]
01:15:46 ◼ ► when our son so those of you who are still listening and I'm imagining there are many of you. [TS]
01:15:53 ◼ ► Let's talk about breaking news the breaking news we should talk about. Well actually. [TS]
01:16:00 ◼ ► We should do a paper you put on you put on like a series Brady voice all of us are in many senses serious let's do [TS]
01:16:11 ◼ ► and I want to use as an excuse to just generally talk about the World Cup of football or soccer or whatever. [TS]
01:16:18 ◼ ► Don't get angry for calling it soccer I grew up in a straight A calling a sucker I now live in England [TS]
01:16:25 ◼ ► Yes because we go straight in rows football that's football but you've got you've got you know N.F.L. Football. [TS]
01:16:38 ◼ ► when I switch into international mode I'll be calling it suckers Oh yeah I said so. [TS]
01:16:54 ◼ ► I'll start with my pipe just because I'll tell you what it is. And very often applies to football soccer. [TS]
01:17:04 ◼ ► I get very annoyed when some former player or someone who was formally involved in the game and no longer is [TS]
01:17:12 ◼ ► and then now just a commentator. Decide to makes to pass on opinion about the current game. [TS]
01:17:19 ◼ ► You know I think Billy blokes is a rubbish coaching should be sacked or I think so and so is a terrible player [TS]
01:17:25 ◼ ► or I think Brasil is very good and they will win the World Cup They take some judgement. [TS]
01:17:31 ◼ ► Fair enough there are there today that the news organizations sport Web sites on newspapers report that as a [TS]
01:17:46 ◼ ► or a sports website will be Brazil good enough to win the World Cup says C G P gray right. [TS]
01:18:06 ◼ ► and this gets a latch onto as like a significant news story because sport has this problem of not having many news [TS]
01:18:13 ◼ ► stories into the game day that they have seven days of news cycle to fade so that kind of fades if things are so far [TS]
01:18:23 ◼ ► and you have all these news reports coming out from Mr No Mr Mr whatever you know some form of play I think this annoys [TS]
01:18:31 ◼ ► me no end and it doesn't happen as much in other than I was thinking about like analogies [TS]
01:18:41 ◼ ► but the places where it happens elsewhere it's almost kind of justified because it has to reach such a level of [TS]
01:18:52 ◼ ► President says some something judgemental that tends to get reported on. But you know that's fair enough. [TS]
01:19:03 ◼ ► Even then I sort of question whether the opinion of a former president is that important. [TS]
01:19:08 ◼ ► You know you know peace in Ireland is very important says Bill Clinton Well you know OK you had your time. [TS]
01:19:20 ◼ ► People who follow sports journalism as closely as me will either be equally annoyed or disagree. [TS]
01:19:27 ◼ ► I'm putting that out there as my paper cup. I understand you won't have much to say about it. [TS]
01:19:36 ◼ ► Well I don't feel obliged to say anything about it. This is what I want to talk this over. [TS]
01:19:44 ◼ ► and I just assume this is happen with your paper before which is I have this moment of understand what what the problem [TS]
01:20:00 ◼ ► We might come to this later when I was like I know my mom is no news being reported as news. [TS]
01:20:04 ◼ ► Yeah but I mean that's all the news all the news is not news to you know to a first approximation all news is non news. [TS]
01:20:15 ◼ ► and soccer particularly in this country is very guilty of it because they have a particular they have a paucity of news [TS]
01:20:32 ◼ ► Whereas if you're just reporting on this one particular sport you can then think OK there's no story about there's no [TS]
01:20:47 ◼ ► You can't do that because that's because that doesn't belong in the football pages it's not on your beat. [TS]
01:20:55 ◼ ► and so what they do is they just feed on themselves they do all the time on radio to say that OK you know what no I [TS]
01:21:01 ◼ ► went into the set I was into the other sports journalists about what I think's going to happen on the weekend. [TS]
01:21:11 ◼ ► Isn't the whole fun for people who like sports. Talking about what they think is going to happen. [TS]
01:21:56 ◼ ► We've watched half a game together in the pub the other day. We did that was it was on while I was watching it. [TS]
01:22:02 ◼ ► You went thing you weren't paying too much attention to I wasn't paying it has to do it until you came in. [TS]
01:22:08 ◼ ► Yeah you don't even know it was on I was like oh I looked up the score and oh my God that's amazing [TS]
01:22:14 ◼ ► Now like I was doing that was a doing I think it was going to my flash cards on the i Pad and i was waiting for you. [TS]
01:22:24 ◼ ► and the team that I was voting for the Netherlands roundly crushed your team Australia well they can round it crush [TS]
01:22:33 ◼ ► and straight I mean that performance by straight into that without a trainer and this is the point. [TS]
01:22:41 ◼ ► Do you know what has made me think and I sometimes think this about about my wife and I think about you today. [TS]
01:23:01 ◼ ► and I wish I could not care for the way that you don't care about sport just unlucky. [TS]
01:23:08 ◼ ► Just as I wish I could not care about my kindle the way you don't care about your kids. [TS]
01:23:14 ◼ ► But like but like sport is a huge tax on time because you know you have to watch all these games [TS]
01:23:21 ◼ ► and it's so emotional you know you'd have to go on like you for the problem that's what I say in the way we have to. [TS]
01:23:28 ◼ ► This makes sense now this makes sense why your paper cut is about the non-news because you feel like you have to read [TS]
01:23:35 ◼ ► and you're getting frustrated by the fact that there's nothing actually in those stories because you know you're [TS]
01:23:40 ◼ ► compelled to check up on the sports news it's more it's more like I want there to be a good story instead of the [TS]
01:23:47 ◼ ► Right right or wrong or what I want I want better information I don't want someone's opinion. So yeah that's it. [TS]
01:23:54 ◼ ► But yeah I do I envy you going through a world where you don't care about the sport. [TS]
01:24:15 ◼ ► They are going to be careful about is that there's a kind of nerd slash geek tendency to feel bits appear you're for [TS]
01:24:21 ◼ ► not following sports I don't feel that at all it's just people are interested in what they're interested in like Oh I'm [TS]
01:24:30 ◼ ► not watching sports I'm busy doing amazing things. Now I will waste a whole afternoon on just video games. [TS]
01:24:39 ◼ ► So it's I don't people are just interested in what they're interested in. So yeah I definitely don't. [TS]
01:24:46 ◼ ► I have my own huge time sinks as well. So everybody has that I mean that's a part of life. Aside from the Olympics. [TS]
01:25:06 ◼ ► Honest to God I didn't know it was the World Cup until the Google logo told me it was the World Cup. [TS]
01:25:15 ◼ ► But this is this is also just you know we sort of touched on that before and actually you touched on it earlier today. [TS]
01:25:21 ◼ ► It's funny little things like your Twitter feed can really affect what you're aware of [TS]
01:25:24 ◼ ► and it just just so happens that it seems like the people I follow don't mention the World Cup [TS]
01:25:32 ◼ ► or don't mention sports very often although I just really well actually I just rose every once in a while. [TS]
01:25:50 ◼ ► Wish Maybe I should do for Adobe to see when that happens but so yeah it just depends on your world. [TS]
01:26:00 ◼ ► Many sports related subscriptions on Reddit But if you're a sports fan to tons of sports stuff you know the things that [TS]
01:26:14 ◼ ► but this is also just a side effect of because I don't follow. I don't watch the news in general. [TS]
01:26:20 ◼ ► I also just don't get updates on world events in the same way like this World Cup is a world event [TS]
01:26:31 ◼ ► but it just didn't cross my radar because of the way I happen to consume media and then [TS]
01:26:45 ◼ ► but I asked if all the games were taking place in the same CIA you did yeah and then I asked where where wives [TS]
01:26:52 ◼ ► and so you had to tell me like a child yes they're all in the same place and they're in Brazil [TS]
01:26:59 ◼ ► and then on the same city but they're in the same country. It's not always just in one country. [TS]
01:27:10 ◼ ► and as far as sports go for watching I think soccer is much more interesting to watch than most sports at the very [TS]
01:27:16 ◼ ► bottom of that list of course is American football which is the most boring thing in the whole wide world to watch [TS]
01:27:25 ◼ ► and like we said I think that the the low scoring is interesting it makes it much more kind of nail biting [TS]
01:27:34 ◼ ► So I'm happy to watch a game especially if there's a team that you can possibly support which you know Americans that [TS]
01:27:45 ◼ ► So if I feel like the World Cup There's almost always some team I can arbitrarily align myself with through some kind [TS]
01:27:53 ◼ ► when we were watching how I can support I can support the Netherlands now tomorrow I can support England the day after [TS]
01:28:01 ◼ ► Some of the pick from so where you can spot because they're not there but you can have England and other not [TS]
01:28:06 ◼ ► and let them know they are rarely there but they are very powerful and that would help Ireland. [TS]
01:28:16 ◼ ► So this will lead us on to sort of the something we were going to talk about my phone had run out of power as it always [TS]
01:28:29 ◼ ► Though I was kind of cut off from the world straight after I left you I got the train home and plugged in my phone [TS]
01:28:51 ◼ ► Don't be modest I look today with over two million Your most recent Yeah I mean I think it's about it's about two point [TS]
01:29:01 ◼ ► and a half million views in a diner that's not reasonably viral that's incredibly viral. [TS]
01:29:06 ◼ ► Yes that's I mean for me it's for me it's amazing I mean for Michael Stevens of a source that's probably a [TS]
01:29:24 ◼ ► or anything because I want to talk about some of the things that go wrong when when the new video goes viral. [TS]
01:29:30 ◼ ► But I'm not humble bragging I'm really pleased very lucky and you know it's good when lots of people watch a video. [TS]
01:29:40 ◼ ► Video Yeah it's a video about cutting cakes into places I won't even bother bother with what what it's about. [TS]
01:29:50 ◼ ► and link it in the descriptions of people who take a look at it it's very good I like it. [TS]
01:30:00 ◼ ► and I mean you've had you've also had You've probably had quite a bit more experience with many of the of what happens [TS]
01:30:06 ◼ ► when these videos go viral. It can be very interesting and busy period because a lot of things happen very quickly. [TS]
01:30:15 ◼ ► Yeah yeah the main thing I actually ask and ask if this happens to a lot the main problem for me [TS]
01:30:22 ◼ ► or the main the main thing that happens for me is other media organizations wanting to use the video in particular [TS]
01:30:31 ◼ ► television this particular one has been used by I was on the N.B.C. Today Show A.B.C. Morning show C.N.N. [TS]
01:30:38 ◼ ► Wanted to use and I was on T.V. All around the world do you do you have with you when you're videos go viral. [TS]
01:30:52 ◼ ► Because your videos are all animated and they seem more interested in using humans in real footage unnormal taytay. [TS]
01:31:00 ◼ ► Yes I think that I think that's exactly the case I do sometimes get requests from real T.V. [TS]
01:31:10 ◼ ► and I was going to say that's my suspicion is the exact same thing that an animation just does not translate as well on [TS]
01:31:18 ◼ ► Vs as it does on the Internet whereas I get if I have a viral success I get a lot of requests from online media of [TS]
01:31:28 ◼ ► various kinds. Yeah yeah and I think that includes usually by some of the newspapers but no not not so much actual T.V. [TS]
01:31:43 ◼ ► and that was interesting the way I found that tended to work was I was getting all these videos from like these T.V. [TS]
01:31:50 ◼ ► Networks saying can we use your video and because I hadn't been online for a few hours or even touched an arrow today. [TS]
01:32:02 ◼ ► Yes So that's that's what happened most of these I didn't even reply to and I've just used the video. [TS]
01:32:15 ◼ ► and all the talk we've done about freebooting on the jacking or whatever you want to call it. [TS]
01:32:25 ◼ ► This did show me that whatever the right word for it is always free voting because I want to. [TS]
01:32:31 ◼ ► People have not understood what what Freeview to all of you checking is because a lot of people were sending me [TS]
01:32:38 ◼ ► messages saying Brady you know Mashable Google whatever have fried your video right. [TS]
01:32:46 ◼ ► And I was like oh my goodness those dirty jokes and I'll quickly go to the Web site to see what was going on [TS]
01:32:53 ◼ ► and in fact I had just invented the running shoe video on their page and written a bit about it. Things like that. [TS]
01:33:00 ◼ ► So that is not free preaching that is in fact doing us a favor in many ways that is how a video goes viral. [TS]
01:33:07 ◼ ► Yes And to be to because I think this is a this is a really interesting symbiotic relationship between sites like Digg [TS]
01:33:15 ◼ ► and content creators because if you think about it from Dick's perspective they need stuff to put on the front page [TS]
01:33:23 ◼ ► and so they want to have interesting video so a video like your cake video comes along [TS]
01:33:32 ◼ ► Yeah and of course if people look at it on Dig dig has advertisements around the video. [TS]
01:33:40 ◼ ► But that seems that always seems to me totally reasonable as long as they are embedding the original You Tube video so [TS]
01:33:47 ◼ ► that when people watch it it still counts as a view for you and I think you have the pop up enabled which I don't [TS]
01:33:54 ◼ ► but you add will still show up on the bottom third of your video. So you still get. Some advertising revenue from that. [TS]
01:34:02 ◼ ► But even for someone like me who doesn't have those pop up ads so if if Digg embeds my video I don't make any money if [TS]
01:34:20 ◼ ► There is the option to disallow embedding if I wanted to I could say no people have to watch my video on youtube [TS]
01:34:27 ◼ ► but I think that that relationship between content filters and content creators is a nice symbiotic one with videos. [TS]
01:34:40 ◼ ► and I feel like I'm happy to to link to stuff that's on other popular Web sites if people watch it there because like [TS]
01:34:46 ◼ ► everybody wins I really like situations where everybody wins and everybody's on the same page. [TS]
01:34:51 ◼ ► Well that said it seems to me some of the sites have found a new way to free vote which can undermine the content [TS]
01:35:10 ◼ ► I create an article about whatever the topic is that she's the cake is an example. [TS]
01:35:14 ◼ ► Embed the video probably down low you know of course but how will these things happen. [TS]
01:35:19 ◼ ► Embed the video maybe even link to the video on its You Tube page so they appear to have done the right thing [TS]
01:35:33 ◼ ► or the new thing is creating a gif of an animated gif of the crucial shot so there is no longer any reason to even [TS]
01:35:45 ◼ ► and that's why a lot of them doing so in the case of the skate video obviously the the essence is to show where [TS]
01:36:03 ◼ ► So even though they're embedding it in the can say look what a great internet citizen we are they still they still [TS]
01:36:12 ◼ ► and I'm not I'm not complaining about it that much because this video wouldn't have got this you know these millions of [TS]
01:36:17 ◼ ► views if it wasn't for all these people doing it and and all of this attention and free voting and theft by T.V. [TS]
01:36:25 ◼ ► Newspapers is comes with the VI relatively So you know it's sort of a it's you know this is a symptom is a cause is a [TS]
01:36:38 ◼ ► but I love a lot of these things have come up in interesting ways you know as I was just trying to find [TS]
01:36:54 ◼ ► or the i Pod cast that we originally did that in the US there are these guidelines about what counts as copyright [TS]
01:37:02 ◼ ► and for my reading of it the two are the three that I remember up top my head that are the crucial ones are [TS]
01:37:12 ◼ ► and so if someone had wrote this article about you or your video you say OK well is did they do a transformative work. [TS]
01:37:26 ◼ ► and then the third one which is the real key one which comes back to the free booting question of like [TS]
01:37:30 ◼ ► when does someone cross the line of basically having hijacked your content for their own profit. [TS]
01:37:37 ◼ ► Is does the resulting work compete with the original And so if you were to if you were describing. [TS]
01:37:44 ◼ ► I haven't seen it with my own stuff and so this is a new horror that I have yet to find [TS]
01:37:51 ◼ ► or web sites are making a gif of the crucial moments in the money shot the money shot that that is the definition. [TS]
01:38:03 ◼ ► and there is no reason to watch your video well now they've just they've hit all three of the. [TS]
01:38:09 ◼ ► When does this count as copyright infringement triggers non transformative commercial [TS]
01:38:20 ◼ ► and yes I understand it you don't want to feel like crying tears of sadness over my millions of views [TS]
01:38:26 ◼ ► but it's I think that people can understand the feeling of having spent a lot of time working on [TS]
01:38:34 ◼ ► and making something and then getting either not credited for it or improperly credited [TS]
01:38:49 ◼ ► And at any level that's very very frustrating to to see happen and it's doubly frustrating [TS]
01:39:00 ◼ ► and you see these other organizations basically money making money off of your own work. [TS]
01:39:08 ◼ ► So I mean I've certainly been exploited quite a lot over the last couple times but I've also been very lucky [TS]
01:39:15 ◼ ► I'm not you know I'm not going to be angry in the streets because of a side I want to it is also interesting the [TS]
01:39:20 ◼ ► different ways in which they are differently market up some of them are really good with the credits [TS]
01:39:28 ◼ ► and others that know very few people seem to do it or in a way that I think is fair. [TS]
01:39:34 ◼ ► I'll say I'll take a link without credit over credit without a link any day because yeah yeah we're on the Internet. [TS]
01:39:53 ◼ ► and read it all the time where people seem to think that it's totally OK to upload so we have the webcomics [TS]
01:40:06 ◼ ► and then they'll say in the comments oh you know John Smith through all of this. That's not OK. [TS]
01:40:16 ◼ ► but not linking to John Smith's website is this not cool it is not is not all settled just because you mentioned where [TS]
01:40:32 ◼ ► That's very frustrating and self-righteous and I still photos from your next screen grabs [TS]
01:40:37 ◼ ► and I have a low water mark of a copyright you chip in the bottom as the case here that I want to post a link that you [TS]
01:40:44 ◼ ► sent me because I thought this this is good for talking about it so you sent me this little clip from where was it. [TS]
01:40:53 ◼ ► A.B.C. News was that they say OK and I'm sure you're OK so it's A.B.C. News and they're talking about your video. [TS]
01:41:05 ◼ ► And they start a press saying a team of mathematicians and scientists at number file. [TS]
01:41:31 ◼ ► First of all there's one guy in the video who's not a mathematician who's not a mathematician [TS]
01:41:36 ◼ ► nor has my interest at a number of file number file at least as of now is not some kind of great mathematical [TS]
01:41:45 ◼ ► Yeah yeah yeah but it may be something it will be and then I have discovered this is what it's a hundred years old. [TS]
01:41:52 ◼ ► Yeah like this is the kind of thing I see in the news all the time and I think people just aren't aware. [TS]
01:42:00 ◼ ► Where of how how much stuff in the news is just too old to be wrong if you know anything about it. [TS]
01:42:07 ◼ ► and I mean I understand I understand that from this little news segments perspective the fact that every part of that [TS]
01:42:15 ◼ ► sentence is wrong doesn't really matter because they just want to show the part of your video where they're cutting the [TS]
01:42:19 ◼ ► cake. Like guys just to untie the barest minimum of trying to get it right you know what it would have changed. [TS]
01:42:30 ◼ ► but the yeah there's no incentive to get it right there's no there's no incentive from their perspective to get it [TS]
01:42:42 ◼ ► But I so I just I just had too much sex I just love that opener it was good I mean to put it yet I mean as you said [TS]
01:42:53 ◼ ► and we just it has a fun pace with this all of this mathematical author who just talked about look at this let me tell [TS]
01:43:21 ◼ ► So it's not even like you know we were the first people to dig it up in a hundred years not even you knew. [TS]
01:43:25 ◼ ► Yeah you too yeah. So so anyway let's So that's the message that puts news organizations in a difficult situation. [TS]
01:43:33 ◼ ► Now they can honestly reporter as news if they make the fact the video has gone viral. [TS]
01:43:44 ◼ ► Yeah that's kind of easy you know I mean the video becomes popular every day so what ones do you pick. [TS]
01:43:50 ◼ ► But but still at least we're in the ballpark of a story. But but but they just they just never get around that. [TS]
01:44:02 ◼ ► and right here just to say that maybe maybe they I don't know if they know or not I think they probably don't. [TS]
01:44:08 ◼ ► And another favorite of mine was the Mail Online which is a unbelievably didn't free video I mean not completely We are [TS]
01:44:18 ◼ ► completely they completely went to town with graphics and pictures and everything so people wouldn't watch the video. [TS]
01:44:25 ◼ ► So they still I still feel like they did they you know the funny thing was they emailed me [TS]
01:44:30 ◼ ► and said Can we put the video on our player and I said they couldn't but they could embed [TS]
01:44:36 ◼ ► and then I realize the article was already up. So I went to the article thinking I know it's going to happen here. [TS]
01:44:52 ◼ ► but their article was funny because they said the article is all about this guy called Alex Bell loss who are not who [TS]
01:45:00 ◼ ► So they still going to run as well like this one guy that's just you know made a cameo in one of videos suddenly this [TS]
01:45:10 ◼ ► And as the first of the just the the whole I mean we talked about this in the news so [TS]
01:45:14 ◼ ► but from my perspective just the there is structurally no reason to care. So they're not going to care. [TS]
01:45:23 ◼ ► Yeah well there's no financial and it comes down to money in the end is nigh on any reason to get it right. [TS]
01:45:35 ◼ ► but the the ways in which a standard commercial organization operates won't provide structure that encourages employees [TS]
01:45:49 ◼ ► So they're just not going to because you know no no the reporters just can't let Like I mean we discussed it before [TS]
01:46:02 ◼ ► and you know there's no point there's no point in even writing to them it's not correct anything they don't care. [TS]
01:46:09 ◼ ► Oh and the funny thing I once was that guy you know I've written newspaper stories where I've made mistakes [TS]
01:46:15 ◼ ► and gotten things wrong and people have called me up upset and sometimes I thought I were wrong. [TS]
01:46:20 ◼ ► Sometimes you know yeah I've made a mistake and you know to to me it was you know to me I was felt bad [TS]
01:46:29 ◼ ► but it was you know I just got on with life. But then you realize when you're on the other side it's a big. Yeah. [TS]
01:46:37 ◼ ► or worse that I mean obviously all these things happen you don't knock all these things happen you do like. [TS]
01:46:43 ◼ ► But it is a funny intense period when this happens isn't that like for for a few hours or a few days [TS]
01:46:54 ◼ ► and you can't keep up with it you can't control it you can't even really figure out what what's happening to learn from [TS]
01:47:03 ◼ ► you can't figure out how you can figure out what's better than what what's good and bad it's a very. [TS]
01:47:12 ◼ ► and you're like you're like How can I make that happen again because it's very good it's very good to have a video get [TS]
01:47:17 ◼ ► washed out to times that you kind of at the end of it like. It was a time you know what happened then what happened. [TS]
01:47:31 ◼ ► But I know from experience that you know I am I am more often wrong than I am right about my own videos [TS]
01:47:42 ◼ ► and how well they are how well they will do and I often have a feeling as I go in this one isn't isn't so great [TS]
01:47:49 ◼ ► and then it does amazingly well and I have the exact reverse feeling of guaranteed millions of views [TS]
01:48:00 ◼ ► What I would say that there are reasons why one goes viral and another one doesn't [TS]
01:48:08 ◼ ► You can't possibly know why it happened so but the best you can do is you just make stuff that you hope people like [TS]
01:48:18 ◼ ► but it's not really under your control it's just you just making little presents for the Internet [TS]
01:48:23 ◼ ► and you hope that the the Internet shares that. Sometimes it does sometimes it doesn't but it's very. [TS]
01:48:31 ◼ ► There's little that can go into that ahead of time to try to make to make it be shared but [TS]
01:48:37 ◼ ► when it's actually happening to you in the end there's that there's that strange heady period where you twitch is going [TS]
01:48:46 ◼ ► Is your attitude you know knuckle down and reply to what you can and try and manage what you can and [TS]
01:48:52 ◼ ► or do you have an attitude of I'm going to shut everything down and play same city and just let it go. [TS]
01:48:58 ◼ ► You've got the video games because this is it's no accident that I usually take a day [TS]
01:49:08 ◼ ► I could take one real weekend a month and just just give myself permission to do nothing except mess around. [TS]
01:49:16 ◼ ► But part of the reason for that is because I do also feel like I want to be on call at any moment if something happens [TS]
01:49:36 ◼ ► and so I particularly I like to have video games where I can all tab out really easily to to check up on email [TS]
01:49:47 ◼ ► And if a video is particularly viral there is often stuff that needs to be done in some sense or another [TS]
01:50:00 ◼ ► It's like it's my regular email I don't happen to reply to stuff that I wouldn't on those days [TS]
01:50:09 ◼ ► and seeing what's coming in I'm still making quick you know to be flagged in the reply responses [TS]
01:50:14 ◼ ► but you know I just I like to see what's happening on Twitter and I just sort of mention it before [TS]
01:50:26 ◼ ► I do like to try to mention on Twitter websites that embed or give credit properly. [TS]
01:50:34 ◼ ► So I do I do like to try to encourage the people in the ecosystem who are behaving well yeah it's good post [TS]
01:50:47 ◼ ► One Web site that's really good with this is devour I'll say oh you know devour my video has made it over there you [TS]
01:50:55 ◼ ► Go watch it so I feel at least in the tiny tiny way I want to have a positive feedback loop for the sites that bother [TS]
01:51:07 ◼ ► Yeah so that's one of the things that I keep an eye out for when I'm just looking around [TS]
01:51:12 ◼ ► and I do have a particular website that I'm always pleased to see if a video makes it on to so there's a couple places [TS]
01:51:19 ◼ ► that I like to check and see who hasn't made it there and then that's usually a good sign [TS]
01:51:23 ◼ ► and try to send off your thank you note or something like that but it is it's a funny funny funny time. [TS]
01:51:35 ◼ ► There's a sort of like lots to do and sort of nothing that's under your control at the same time. Yeah yeah. [TS]
01:51:52 ◼ ► You never know you know the funny thing is that I'm making any I think I don't know if I said this before but [TS]
01:52:04 ◼ ► Could this be the front page story tomorrow Huck you'd somehow twist in your head that you'd end up with a great photo [TS]
01:52:12 ◼ ► Even if you're doing the most banal story you think this ends up on the front page [TS]
01:52:18 ◼ ► when you're making one that you can only see with this one is just going to be a bit of a normal video that you know [TS]
01:52:28 ◼ ► You always think oh no interest in some way that this could catch someone's attention and get bigger. [TS]
01:52:35 ◼ ► So even so I was about to say no the next time before I can assure you want to go viral [TS]
01:52:45 ◼ ► There are there are many a video that I have released basically in a state of despair release the video [TS]
01:52:57 ◼ ► when you think oh you know I think everyone with that I have definitely had ones where that is the case where I think [TS]
01:53:11 ◼ ► but it's because of your mother that my best example that one is actually the the Canada USA border video I love that [TS]
01:53:17 ◼ ► one. Yeah lots of people love it. I felt awful about that video at the time of release but I thought. [TS]
01:53:25 ◼ ► But if you did I was working on it for too long and you know you you lose perspective [TS]
01:53:29 ◼ ► but I have the reverse Like I said I have ones I think. Oh yes totally going to this is a home run. [TS]
01:53:37 ◼ ► So I don't I don't necessarily think that all of mine are going to be amazing I tend to have extreme thoughts one way [TS]