00:00:00 ◼ ► All right I have to call on how unprofessional because we haven't reached as I could expect. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/0">TS</a>]
00:00:09 ◼ ► Hello hello this is now I have Trevor I can't talk at the moment. What time you coming tomorrow. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/9">TS</a>]
00:00:20 ◼ ► To hang up or lost his connection. Who call back now. He's gone there anyway. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/20">TS</a>]
00:00:25 ◼ ► They're going to call back in two seconds now we have to wait now we have to wait. Since we last or each other. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/25">TS</a>]
00:00:33 ◼ ► Yes well we search on them in person last week. Yes we did. You took me on a date. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/33">TS</a>]
00:00:40 ◼ ► They take you on a date I'm not sure I took my dinner I didn't eat pork and we had KLEIN Yeah I guess it was a date. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/40">TS</a>]
00:00:50 ◼ ► Since the year since the podcast is kind of you know it's really just got going it was the first time we've spent a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/50">TS</a>]
00:01:00 ◼ ► and I thought it created quite an interesting dynamic because obviously we talked about lots of stuff we would normally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/60">TS</a>]
00:01:06 ◼ ► talk about and it was stuff we wouldn't talk about in the podcast on the roof and whatnot but there were a few times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/66">TS</a>]
00:01:13 ◼ ► and I think we both acknowledged that we would sort of start to talk about something or topic would come up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/73">TS</a>]
00:01:18 ◼ ► and we'd be thinking oh this is the this is the class fun podcast Chetwood [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/78">TS</a>]
00:01:22 ◼ ► and should be keeping our powder dry Oh is this is you know it was a bit strange in that respect. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/82">TS</a>]
00:01:29 ◼ ► Yeah I know that yes there was one topic in particular which I think you're going to bring up shortly where we did we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/89">TS</a>]
00:01:36 ◼ ► did say Oh let's not talk about this now what would you eternity put a lid on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/96">TS</a>]
00:01:42 ◼ ► and he said no way I'm to I want to tell him that I want to talk in the podcast about that I thought I say what it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/102">TS</a>]
00:01:47 ◼ ► I think I need the transcript I don't think I totally put a lid on it but it was it was a strange situation. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/107">TS</a>]
00:01:55 ◼ ► And yes I don't think I've ever been in a situation like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/115">TS</a>]
00:02:00 ◼ ► Before where you realize maybe we shouldn't talk about this thing now. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/120">TS</a>]
00:02:03 ◼ ► We'll talk about it later on the Internet as it was I don't know it was weird it was there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/123">TS</a>]
00:02:09 ◼ ► and I think that's a healthy thing for our friendship. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/129">TS</a>]
00:02:15 ◼ ► but maybe here's my thought maybe it's a good thing because we can we'll all end up talking about maybe more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/135">TS</a>]
00:02:25 ◼ ► superficial stuff on the podcast sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/145">TS</a>]
00:02:27 ◼ ► and then like you said there's a whole bunch of stuff that you just you wouldn't want to talk about on the podcast so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/147">TS</a>]
00:02:32 ◼ ► maybe it'll drive an hour in person conversations to a whole new level. Yeah. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/152">TS</a>]
00:02:38 ◼ ► Of this relationship and has that Rush cleanup underway now you're dating. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/158">TS</a>]
00:02:46 ◼ ► Let me let me let me tell you what I brought up that you want to talk about again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/166">TS</a>]
00:02:51 ◼ ► and it's the issue of Comic Sans the fart. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/171">TS</a>]
00:02:56 ◼ ► Now I think it's fair to say I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/176">TS</a>]
00:03:01 ◼ ► or have been fairly edgy comic sans like on one of those people who thinks it's a bit of an F. Sound. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/181">TS</a>]
00:03:13 ◼ ► I've used a few times in videos and initially I was using it to kind of be a bit of a troll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/193">TS</a>]
00:03:19 ◼ ► or be a be ironical stare people out or flame or whatever the cool word is for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/199">TS</a>]
00:03:24 ◼ ► when you upset people dropped into a few videos just to upset people. But like in doing that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/204">TS</a>]
00:03:32 ◼ ► My position has changed is changing a bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/212">TS</a>]
00:03:35 ◼ ► and there's been a couple of recent videos where I've actually used almost functional I like I thought I think Comic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/215">TS</a>]
00:03:43 ◼ ► Sans actually might be the fun just to do this with and not after all these years and all this sort of edgy comics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/223">TS</a>]
00:03:50 ◼ ► and sentiment. I feel like maybe maybe it gets a how to time it deserves. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/230">TS</a>]
00:03:57 ◼ ► I don't really know what your position is on this front. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/237">TS</a>]
00:04:01 ◼ ► Yes I think Comic Sans for me is an interesting specific case of a broader kind of question that I've had about fonts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/241">TS</a>]
00:04:14 ◼ ► for a long time and it's I don't understand what makes some funds good and what makes some fonts terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/254">TS</a>]
00:04:25 ◼ ► and I guess is also part of a broader question about design in general. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/265">TS</a>]
00:04:32 ◼ ► I've read a few books on graphic design or you know does design work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/272">TS</a>]
00:04:39 ◼ ► and I'm sure I've been trying to find out why is it that something can look good or something can look terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/279">TS</a>]
00:04:45 ◼ ► and what I want are some rules about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/285">TS</a>]
00:04:48 ◼ ► and I've read books that are supposedly filled with rules about what is good design what is not good design. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/288">TS</a>]
00:04:53 ◼ ► Whitespace you know all this kind of stuff and I never find it satisfying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/293">TS</a>]
00:04:59 ◼ ► and I think it's particularly an interesting question with funds because I've learned more about the typefaces I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/299">TS</a>]
00:05:09 ◼ ► but I've learned more about the features of particular kinds of of typefaces and I can pick out some things when. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/309">TS</a>]
00:05:19 ◼ ► When when a foreigner just gone terribly wrong or in a sign [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/319">TS</a>]
00:05:23 ◼ ► when something has just gone terribly wrong I will bring up an example now which is kerning you know what kerning is. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/323">TS</a>]
00:05:30 ◼ ► Yes OK for listeners who might not be aware kerning has to do with the letter spacing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/330">TS</a>]
00:05:36 ◼ ► and because of the of the ways ways some letters are shaped you can kind of slide them under each other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/336">TS</a>]
00:05:45 ◼ ► when you put them on the sign so that it looks more visually pleasing if the letters can kind of not overlap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/345">TS</a>]
00:05:51 ◼ ► but they can be closer to each other. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/351">TS</a>]
00:05:54 ◼ ► Yeah then they would be if you were using a typewriter for example you're looking at something on my screen right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/354">TS</a>]
00:06:04 ◼ ► Is rounded and if the font is arranged very nicely the W can kind of edge over the oh a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/364">TS</a>]
00:06:11 ◼ ► and then look for that. Once you tune into this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/371">TS</a>]
00:06:14 ◼ ► Words that aren't current properly it's very irritating because you can see it on store signs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/374">TS</a>]
00:06:20 ◼ ► and things the guy the letter closer together if you make You Tube videos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/380">TS</a>]
00:06:24 ◼ ► and do bad parenting that is something also that you will soon find out about in the section I think that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/384">TS</a>]
00:06:31 ◼ ► and I think I've been lucky with Haven't you heard about people you know turning a lace collar all over me. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/391">TS</a>]
00:06:37 ◼ ► It's something that I've done with manually in a couple of places I think in the header of some of my website where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/397">TS</a>]
00:06:46 ◼ ► and it's E G P with full stops between the letters I have manually current it a couple of times so that the full stops [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/406">TS</a>]
00:06:55 ◼ ► the periods like slide under the P.C. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/415">TS</a>]
00:06:59 ◼ ► For example because it can look weird once you're aware that it's just too far out. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/419">TS</a>]
00:07:05 ◼ ► So there's something like things like kerning there's a few other things with with fonts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/425">TS</a>]
00:07:11 ◼ ► when people who are really into fonts talk about why some of them look like this font looks great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/431">TS</a>]
00:07:19 ◼ ► Then an example of this is is Helvetica which people always hold up as this amazing standard of such as such like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/439">TS</a>]
00:07:26 ◼ ► Yes and I'm really trying to figure out what makes Helvetica good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/446">TS</a>]
00:07:32 ◼ ► and I don't I don't know I don't know if I did if I knew nothing about the history of Helvetica would I be able to pick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/452">TS</a>]
00:07:42 ◼ ► and say oh boy this is clearly such a great font I don't think I would be able to do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/462">TS</a>]
00:07:47 ◼ ► and I think Comic Sans kind of suffers this reverse effect of that where people hate it disproportionately because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/467">TS</a>]
00:08:00 ◼ ► It yeah they become fun to pick on the Justin Bieber of things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/480">TS</a>]
00:08:03 ◼ ► but it has become like almost the go to guy for if you want to ridicule a front. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/483">TS</a>]
00:08:10 ◼ ► Yes And I think there it's an interesting choice because I think at big sizes there are some things with comic fans [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/490">TS</a>]
00:08:19 ◼ ► that just I do think look awkward it's not a font that is that translates well to a gigantic sign. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/499">TS</a>]
00:08:27 ◼ ► Yeah there's a child's nursery around the corner from where I live and that was huge fun and Comic Sans [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/507">TS</a>]
00:08:32 ◼ ► and I have I have issues with that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/512">TS</a>]
00:08:35 ◼ ► Yes Yes And I think it's identifiable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/515">TS</a>]
00:08:38 ◼ ► and then because it looks worse as larger sizes it's an effect where people can really tune into it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/518">TS</a>]
00:08:44 ◼ ► or something is big and then obviously comic fans and you think oh it looks terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/524">TS</a>]
00:08:48 ◼ ► but at relatively small sizes I think it's pretty good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/528">TS</a>]
00:08:53 ◼ ► and the thing about the comic fans that I want to bring up you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/533">TS</a>]
00:08:57 ◼ ► when you mentioned it was so I went to college university now and I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/537">TS</a>]
00:09:04 ◼ ► but just so long ago ten years ago a lot of years ago I don't want to do the counting more than a decade ago. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/544">TS</a>]
00:09:15 ◼ ► I remember turning in papers that I had set in Comic Sans Comic Sans about twelve point five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/555">TS</a>]
00:09:23 ◼ ► and so relatively small on the page. Not all the text was written in that like an essay or something. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/563">TS</a>]
00:09:29 ◼ ► Yeah yeah so you know I would do sociology have to write you know an essay about something or other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/569">TS</a>]
00:09:33 ◼ ► and I would write it up and I would set it in Comic Sans. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/573">TS</a>]
00:09:37 ◼ ► Wow And the reason I did that is because this is first of all it's not pre internet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/577">TS</a>]
00:09:42 ◼ ► but I think it was pre the existence of this comic sans hate. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/582">TS</a>]
00:09:46 ◼ ► Yeah and I remember just looking through the fonts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/586">TS</a>]
00:09:49 ◼ ► and I was trying to find something that I thought was relatively readable that was in Times New Roman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/589">TS</a>]
00:09:55 ◼ ► and I remember for myself I used to have this pattern where I would I would write on the. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/595">TS</a>]
00:10:00 ◼ ► Computer they were printed out I would make corrections by hand and then transcribe it back in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/600">TS</a>]
00:10:04 ◼ ► and I remember just thinking that you know at smaller sizes Comic Sans was kind of nicely legible it was easy to read. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/604">TS</a>]
00:10:13 ◼ ► and the thing that makes me wonder about the piling on of Comic Sans was I never had a single professor make any comments [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/613">TS</a>]
00:10:22 ◼ ► about this throughout the entirety of my college career. No no one ever commented that it put an effort to strike back. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/622">TS</a>]
00:10:29 ◼ ► I didn't know what no one ever commented on it which is completely unremarked upon that this was a fun choice I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/629">TS</a>]
00:10:37 ◼ ► think there is almost anybody who could do that now and it would be unremarked upon. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/637">TS</a>]
00:10:42 ◼ ► and I feel like that like that experience of mine is a tiny anecdotal data point for Comic Sans has become hated because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/642">TS</a>]
00:10:52 ◼ ► it is hated not because of anything intrinsic about the font itself anyway so that that as you mention the Comic Sans [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/652">TS</a>]
00:11:01 ◼ ► things I thought I thought back to I remember having stuff in comics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/661">TS</a>]
00:11:04 ◼ ► and that I would be mortified mortified to do that now but it just it didn't even cross my mind a decade plus ago. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/664">TS</a>]
00:11:13 ◼ ► I think I think that the usefulness I'm finding with it is sometimes it's quite useful if you want to say something on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/673">TS</a>]
00:11:20 ◼ ► screen in text that you want to be quite human [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/680">TS</a>]
00:11:22 ◼ ► and have quiet quiet like a human personality voice without using one of those you know rubbish forms that's supposed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/682">TS</a>]
00:11:29 ◼ ► to look like it was hand written which is just a bit off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/689">TS</a>]
00:11:33 ◼ ► but it's kind of got a personality to it it's a bit like this is an official voice this is an official filmmaker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/693">TS</a>]
00:11:39 ◼ ► scientist voice this is just a little human voice I want to give you for a second and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/699">TS</a>]
00:11:45 ◼ ► and I wonder is that because of the shape of the font and the nature of the font [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/705">TS</a>]
00:11:50 ◼ ► or is it because it now has such a personality and a place in culture that it's almost taken on personality and. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/710">TS</a>]
00:12:00 ◼ ► It's almost like it's almost like you're getting you're getting something for free with Comic Sans all this baggage has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/720">TS</a>]
00:12:06 ◼ ► actually can be quite helpful in almost it almost as a character now has this typeface. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/726">TS</a>]
00:12:13 ◼ ► Does that he said Soames specifically talking about. There are definitely times that you want more informal fonts. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/733">TS</a>]
00:12:21 ◼ ► Yeah in my own videos for example there are three primary font that I use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/741">TS</a>]
00:12:26 ◼ ► and I have a big thick Sarah font that I use in most of my videos for for the titles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/746">TS</a>]
00:12:32 ◼ ► or the words on the screen I have a relatively bold stand Sarah font that depending on the it was his hand crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/752">TS</a>]
00:12:40 ◼ ► but some of my videos it feels like this is more of a sense of kind of topic. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/760">TS</a>]
00:12:49 ◼ ► but some of the videos they clearly feel like no no no this is not for Sarah FS I need to censor. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/769">TS</a>]
00:12:54 ◼ ► He's getting too close I'm switching to censor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/774">TS</a>]
00:12:58 ◼ ► but I have a I have a third font that I spent a lot of time trying to pick which I almost always use for the little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/778">TS</a>]
00:13:04 ◼ ► stick figures talking or thinking and that you know that's not going to be times new roman someone's internal thoughts. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/784">TS</a>]
00:13:12 ◼ ► It's it is it is a hand written looking funny because it conveys something completely different because that kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/792">TS</a>]
00:13:22 ◼ ► Yeah I was trying I was trying to pick something I don't remember the name off of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/802">TS</a>]
00:13:26 ◼ ► but there's a website I think it's I think it's called comic book fonts something like that is that the name is in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/806">TS</a>]
00:13:33 ◼ ► middle of the comic book fonts dot com They had their website they have just a ton a ton of from my perspective very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/813">TS</a>]
00:13:51 ◼ ► and they're also just a lot of really great themed fonts it was a while ago there from looking for a font for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/831">TS</a>]
00:13:56 ◼ ► particular kind of thing. But yes and I spent a lot of time trying to find that pretty. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/836">TS</a>]
00:14:00 ◼ ► Gular little font to use because you definitely want different different feelings for different things. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/840">TS</a>]
00:14:07 ◼ ► The other thing I just want to mention is where oh where is it called. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/847">TS</a>]
00:14:15 ◼ ► Yes OK So I saw this recently I think on Reddit maybe was an accident I don't remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/855">TS</a>]
00:14:21 ◼ ► but someone has developed a font that they call comic new and it is a riff. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/861">TS</a>]
00:14:28 ◼ ► It's sort of a refined version of Comic Sans. And I think it actually looks really good. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/868">TS</a>]
00:14:37 ◼ ► and shows how they changed a little bit of the way the letter strokes of Comic Sans look they've smoothed it a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/877">TS</a>]
00:14:43 ◼ ► bit but still kept it looking handwritten E. and I have to say I think Man this looks this looks great. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/883">TS</a>]
00:14:51 ◼ ► It looks it looks very much like Comic Sans. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/891">TS</a>]
00:14:55 ◼ ► But just a lot nicer as though the theoretical person who wrote comic sans was just concentrating really hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/895">TS</a>]
00:15:03 ◼ ► when they wrote each of these different letters so I could totally see under certain circumstances using comic knew if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/903">TS</a>]
00:15:13 ◼ ► itself if it felt right and felt like that was the kind of thing to do for myself in the D.L.C. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/913">TS</a>]
00:15:17 ◼ ► With them if you would you think of this you can get my initial reaction as I said for the first time. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/917">TS</a>]
00:15:26 ◼ ► Yeah I have proof you approve of comics. Yeah it's nice if you scroll down. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/926">TS</a>]
00:15:35 ◼ ► They show the letters being simplified a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/935">TS</a>]
00:15:38 ◼ ► but also the whole website is written in comic knew all the paragraph text [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/938">TS</a>]
00:15:43 ◼ ► and I think it looks like a really good handwritten font part that you have. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/943">TS</a>]
00:15:49 ◼ ► Mark my first my first impression is a positive one will say what the others think. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/949">TS</a>]
00:15:55 ◼ ► Yes we all we all here I'm sure very soon what the internet thinks about this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/955">TS</a>]
00:16:00 ◼ ► I'm must wondering how much more time we can possibly spend talking about fonts. I think no more time. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/960">TS</a>]
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00:17:28 ◼ ► and thanks to Adam for his recommendation back to the shop in the last episode we talked about originality. Oh yes yes. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1048">TS</a>]
00:17:39 ◼ ► Don't you want to follow the little follow up item that I want to bring up on the Do You Remember we mentioned as an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1059">TS</a>]
00:17:46 ◼ ► example of how people are an original if you comment if you make a comment on Twitter. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1066">TS</a>]
00:17:51 ◼ ► People often respond back to you with the same joke you very quickly. Yeah so this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1071">TS</a>]
00:18:00 ◼ ► I've been to me in reverse destine he smarter every day. Powell tamer the manly man by the way. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1080">TS</a>]
00:18:08 ◼ ► Yes Justin said that he would have dealt with exactly the same way I did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1088">TS</a>]
00:18:12 ◼ ► and if you are going to not let that one always we're going to bring it up for you. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1092">TS</a>]
00:18:17 ◼ ► Anyway he was on Twitter was destine made a little comment on Twitter saying something like he just realized that he is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1097">TS</a>]
00:18:25 ◼ ► a bike clubs as opposed to a Cyclops and I saw him make a little comment on Twitter and I replied [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1105">TS</a>]
00:18:34 ◼ ► and I said Oh does that mean the people who wear glasses are quad collapses. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1114">TS</a>]
00:18:39 ◼ ► Yeah four eyes very good and I wrote that back to him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1119">TS</a>]
00:18:44 ◼ ► and I honestly thought wait a minute because this was shortly after we just put up the podcast. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1124">TS</a>]
00:18:49 ◼ ► Yeah and I just it entered my mind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1129">TS</a>]
00:18:51 ◼ ► and I thought you know I think this is exactly the kind of joke that others are not this is not original to me this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1131">TS</a>]
00:18:57 ◼ ► just the first part the get pretty much any glass is where I was going back and I looked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1137">TS</a>]
00:19:02 ◼ ► and sure enough I was not the first to save the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1142">TS</a>]
00:19:05 ◼ ► and I'm sure he's still getting tweets from people saying the quad collapse thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1145">TS</a>]
00:19:09 ◼ ► and I just I just thought it was it was funny. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1149">TS</a>]
00:19:12 ◼ ► Did you quietly delete it and pretend it didn't happen or do you know what what's done is done. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1152">TS</a>]
00:19:19 ◼ ► I mean this is my just embarrassing in quotation marks. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1159">TS</a>]
00:19:25 ◼ ► Joke that was really just a thought came into my head and I reply to Justin I feel kind of dumb about it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1165">TS</a>]
00:19:32 ◼ ► But anyway it's not that I thought this is a show that happens to the best of us. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1172">TS</a>]
00:19:37 ◼ ► So if you don't mean to but this kind of thing just happens all the time. Have you calmed down. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1177">TS</a>]
00:19:48 ◼ ► Well I mean I'm not sure if I was I was angry I guess maybe it was anger you were angry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1188">TS</a>]
00:19:54 ◼ ► but there was no physical motion from behind those robotic cord gloves. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1194">TS</a>]
00:20:00 ◼ ► I thought I felt resigned and disappointed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1200">TS</a>]
00:20:02 ◼ ► but now you said that more than just disappointed he went like I was disappointed with this film. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1202">TS</a>]
00:20:11 ◼ ► Well I had many more things to say but somebody cut me off before I was even really warmed up you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1211">TS</a>]
00:20:17 ◼ ► and he was quite enjoying it if you go back and listen. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1217">TS</a>]
00:20:21 ◼ ► Yeah you will hear that I I was talking about something that was all that I was talking about the opening the sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1221">TS</a>]
00:20:29 ◼ ► second opening scene of the movie and you said something like It sounds like you could talk about this for a long time. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1229">TS</a>]
00:20:37 ◼ ► But let's let's try to move the conversation. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1237">TS</a>]
00:20:40 ◼ ► General disappointment in the movie because I could've done a blow by blow throughout that whole thing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1240">TS</a>]
00:20:44 ◼ ► But you may be rightly cut me off my feet I don't think it was rightly a lot of people have requested that global blows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1244">TS</a>]
00:20:50 ◼ ► since. Yeah I could be a hello internet after hours at some point. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1250">TS</a>]
00:20:56 ◼ ► But they were there were two things I just want to follow up that are interesting. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1256">TS</a>]
00:20:59 ◼ ► They got into a discussion with a couple people on the Reddit and it was a question of the movies being two movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1259">TS</a>]
00:21:05 ◼ ► or three movies and it was it was interesting to see that it was originally announced as two movies. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1265">TS</a>]
00:21:14 ◼ ► Yeah and then that's at some point in the production cycle. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1274">TS</a>]
00:21:19 ◼ ► Peter Jackson has this Facebook posting where he's happy to announce that it is now going to be three movies. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1279">TS</a>]
00:21:25 ◼ ► His accountants are happy to announce that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1285">TS</a>]
00:21:29 ◼ ► Well this is why I would really wonder how happy he was about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1289">TS</a>]
00:21:34 ◼ ► and how much he was involved in this in this decision. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1294">TS</a>]
00:21:38 ◼ ► Because one of the things I didn't mention from last time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1298">TS</a>]
00:21:42 ◼ ► but I found really interesting is that it's the same writing team who did the Lord Of The Rings and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1302">TS</a>]
00:21:50 ◼ ► and the one point I wanted to make listening to myself argue about The Hobbit movie from last time is I kept mentioning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1310">TS</a>]
00:21:57 ◼ ► all these times about how it's different from the book it's different from the book. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1317">TS</a>]
00:22:01 ◼ ► Which was interesting to hear me say because it comes across as though I wanted to stick to the book very accurately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1321">TS</a>]
00:22:08 ◼ ► and that is never my opinion with movies that are made from books or movies are such a different thing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1328">TS</a>]
00:22:15 ◼ ► It has to be wildly changed because they're just such different media. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1335">TS</a>]
00:22:20 ◼ ► Yeah and it can be death for a movie to stick closely to the book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1340">TS</a>]
00:22:24 ◼ ► and one of the things that I thought was really great about a lot of the Brings was that they did make all kinds of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1344">TS</a>]
00:22:31 ◼ ► They moved stuff around in the timeline they added a few scenes they cut a whole bunch of stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1351">TS</a>]
00:22:36 ◼ ► and I thought that that was done just just really well so I want to make it clear that my my complaint is not does not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1356">TS</a>]
00:22:43 ◼ ► stem from the fact that it was different from the book The Lord Of The Rings movies are very different from the books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1363">TS</a>]
00:22:48 ◼ ► but they're done really really well. It's just that the Hobbit movies. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1368">TS</a>]
00:22:52 ◼ ► When it's different and it all goes poorly and it just it it irritates you more. But yeah I did. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1372">TS</a>]
00:22:59 ◼ ► OK I'm sure it's drive it know when you've made it when you've made a change and made Yes by making the change. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1379">TS</a>]
00:23:04 ◼ ► Yes and I was thinking about it a lot and with that with that two movies to three movies announcement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1384">TS</a>]
00:23:11 ◼ ► and I thought this moment here was really the kiss of death because with the Lord Of The Rings there was way too much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1391">TS</a>]
00:23:20 ◼ ► and that what they had to do was cut down what could have been sixteen hours if you just filmed it as it happens in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1400">TS</a>]
00:23:26 ◼ ► book and compressed it and then the exact reverse process has to happen with The Hobbit of bending and stretching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1406">TS</a>]
00:23:33 ◼ ► and I'm sure that that is why the same director the same writing team this in the same everybody can be involved in two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1413">TS</a>]
00:23:43 ◼ ► very similar projects and one of them at least in my opinion came out great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1423">TS</a>]
00:23:47 ◼ ► and one of them is objectively a boring trainwreck and I've gone from ruthless cottons to shameless patters. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1427">TS</a>]
00:23:54 ◼ ► Yes Yes I mean when you're adding stuff I mean it is not really the same. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1434">TS</a>]
00:24:00 ◼ ► But I do see that even with with my own scripts I'm really aware that cutting it almost always makes it better. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1440">TS</a>]
00:24:08 ◼ ► I mean you're an editor for for your own videos I'm sure I'm sure you must see the same thing as well you have a you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1448">TS</a>]
00:24:15 ◼ ► have is a creed it is desired to keep stuff in that you like or to have it longer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1455">TS</a>]
00:24:20 ◼ ► but it's almost always there is there is that there is a conflict there's always that conflict that you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1460">TS</a>]
00:24:24 ◼ ► everything so interesting but in your heart of hearts you know cutting out more is probably for the best. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1464">TS</a>]
00:24:30 ◼ ► Which is why you know I don't cut my stuff enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1470">TS</a>]
00:24:32 ◼ ► but if I if I do spend a long time on something it invariably gets shorter and shorter and shorter because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1472">TS</a>]
00:24:38 ◼ ► when I go back with a fresh set of eyes the next day I will always cut it how long I don't even notice how long does a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1478">TS</a>]
00:24:44 ◼ ► typical day. Let's just I just watch one of your videos today with Phil Moriarty. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1484">TS</a>]
00:24:50 ◼ ► Yeah the one about everything in the waves and randomness. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1490">TS</a>]
00:24:54 ◼ ► Yeah so that that video was I think about ten minutes long you know a little better nine minute something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1494">TS</a>]
00:24:59 ◼ ► and how how long is a conversation like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1499">TS</a>]
00:25:02 ◼ ► when you record it for the first time what is it what is it started as to get down to ten minutes I would say that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1502">TS</a>]
00:25:12 ◼ ► It seems pretty concise they stay on most subjects so I would say that was in the order of twenty to twenty to twenty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1512">TS</a>]
00:25:21 ◼ ► Everyone's different someone like Martin Poliakoff in the chemistry videos you know is almost like fifteen minutes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1521">TS</a>]
00:25:28 ◼ ► Phil might be twenty becomes ten but there are other people who will talk for thirty or forty minutes. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1528">TS</a>]
00:25:35 ◼ ► But yeah I would say that was around I was in the order of twenty so I have to interesting do you watch Game of Thrones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1535">TS</a>]
00:25:42 ◼ ► I do not watch Game of Thrones although that conversation went well then I guess I try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1542">TS</a>]
00:25:49 ◼ ► and I try to read the books I haven't read the books but I'm told by my much much better half who has just been. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1549">TS</a>]
00:26:00 ◼ ► All the ones that have been written so far but she loves them but they're pretty long. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1560">TS</a>]
00:26:06 ◼ ► Yes the pretty long and I'm sorry. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1566">TS</a>]
00:26:09 ◼ ► Aside from the Lord Of The Rings I have almost never found myself able to get into any kind of fantasy genre. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1569">TS</a>]
00:26:18 ◼ ► But yeah there's something about them that my brain is just I am very bored [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1578">TS</a>]
00:26:24 ◼ ► and I think they all suffer from this huge vocabulary problem it is almost almost every one of them it's OK here's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1584">TS</a>]
00:26:33 ◼ ► map and here's a whole bunch of kingdoms you've never heard of the real characters and races of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1593">TS</a>]
00:26:38 ◼ ► and all of this and that is to me is almost always such a barrier to get into fantasy. The T.V. Show is cracking. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1598">TS</a>]
00:26:47 ◼ ► It's really good. I hear is that you know that's good. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1607">TS</a>]
00:26:50 ◼ ► I don't I don't know why I just for some reason it hasn't crossed my threshold for something to watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1610">TS</a>]
00:26:55 ◼ ► but I've got a series one here's a box so here's how hard copy. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1615">TS</a>]
00:27:00 ◼ ► It's just that I want that kind of I'm going to watch it I'll watch online. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1620">TS</a>]
00:27:05 ◼ ► Save your money because you would never like demo to legally or anything so I was trying to save you money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1625">TS</a>]
00:27:10 ◼ ► and lend you my D.V.D.'s. Well then what can you play a D.V.D. On these days. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1630">TS</a>]
00:27:15 ◼ ► Well well actually that's I'm not sure in our house we have anything that can play D.V.D. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1635">TS</a>]
00:27:21 ◼ ► and That writes My my new my new macro. No Matt there's no there's no D.V.D. Player on the side of my macro. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1641">TS</a>]
00:27:28 ◼ ► Maybe I'll just hand a summary and a piece of parchment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1648">TS</a>]
00:27:31 ◼ ► and then come an actor for a new original SCO please don't do that no that would be terrible. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1651">TS</a>]
00:27:37 ◼ ► Isn't that I don't know can you buy your stuff online I'm always hearing people complain of the castle why I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1657">TS</a>]
00:27:42 ◼ ► offering it to the fetus but then I have now I have to but have to buy a D.V.D. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1662">TS</a>]
00:27:46 ◼ ► Player knows this is a good old into a D.V.D. Player. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1666">TS</a>]
00:27:49 ◼ ► Any I only use mine to watch the data but I don't I don't have a T.V. To hook a D.V.D. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1669">TS</a>]
00:27:54 ◼ ► Player up to now you can have tracked. All right stuff in my own stuff if you stuff that's going to be nine. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1674">TS</a>]
00:28:07 ◼ ► I do I appreciate the sentiment. I'm just trying to get objects and I have another to try to to try to. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1687">TS</a>]
00:28:15 ◼ ► What's this about Skype live translations. Oh just as a follow up to the language stuff you know. Language. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1695">TS</a>]
00:28:27 ◼ ► Yes My favorite I just today an enormously long keep getting e-mails from people still about the language thing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1707">TS</a>]
00:28:33 ◼ ► You're always arguing with points that I didn't make as well as my fund the number of e-mails that I get from people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1713">TS</a>]
00:28:39 ◼ ► who tell me language lessons are really important because they grew up in a country that didn't speak English [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1719">TS</a>]
00:28:45 ◼ ► and they learned English and they wouldn't be able to write an email to me now if they had had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1725">TS</a>]
00:28:49 ◼ ► and there's never the argument making people if you know I am perfectly fine bored with English language taught in non [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1729">TS</a>]
00:28:56 ◼ ► English language speaking countries but as always this makes everybody even angrier when I say that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1736">TS</a>]
00:29:00 ◼ ► but still I get e-mails anyway saying you know I could never have written this big long enough for you to ignore it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1740">TS</a>]
00:29:09 ◼ ► I have to say someone did write an email to me today. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1749">TS</a>]
00:29:12 ◼ ► Today was I got it was the worst I was doing e-mail all day long but someone sent an email [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1752">TS</a>]
00:29:17 ◼ ► and it was one of these emails I could see on my screen just the look there's a little scroll bar saying that it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1757">TS</a>]
00:29:23 ◼ ► quarter of the whole thing. Someone's writing this thing and they say I see at the top oh it's about language isn't it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1763">TS</a>]
00:29:27 ◼ ► Writes I just caught this the line about I would never have been able to write to you if I hadn't learned English [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1767">TS</a>]
00:29:37 ◼ ► but I have that what with the link that I have here for us to just mention is as follow up is Skype did a demonstration [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1777">TS</a>]
00:29:45 ◼ ► now and I was always wait until you see the actual thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1785">TS</a>]
00:29:48 ◼ ► but the demonstration looked really impressive of them doing lies translation between two people using Skype video chat. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1788">TS</a>]
00:30:00 ◼ ► Speaker and one was a German speaker and so they would they would take turns talking to each other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1800">TS</a>]
00:30:04 ◼ ► and I have obviously I can't evaluate the quality of the chairman translation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1804">TS</a>]
00:30:09 ◼ ► but the German woman was saying came across as reasonable English to the to the listener on the sand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1809">TS</a>]
00:30:17 ◼ ► and it looked really impressive and has sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1817">TS</a>]
00:30:20 ◼ ► and it was right like it was up to the second it was a lot kind of like when you see footage from the United Nations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1820">TS</a>]
00:30:25 ◼ ► and everyone's got their faces and you hear some guy droning on in the background you know a few words behind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1825">TS</a>]
00:30:31 ◼ ► and you kind of you know we're way down OK so it was not it was not real time in the sense of speaking over the German [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1831">TS</a>]
00:30:41 ◼ ► They still they still had the alternate phrase it was like one person said something they wait [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1841">TS</a>]
00:30:45 ◼ ► and the other person said it but it was it was fast enough that there wasn't three seconds of silence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1845">TS</a>]
00:30:51 ◼ ► when the person stops speaking basically as soon as they stop talking. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1851">TS</a>]
00:30:55 ◼ ► It said whatever they said in the appropriate language [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1855">TS</a>]
00:30:58 ◼ ► and I remember this from reminds me of a link I sent you that months ago that we never got around to talking about in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1858">TS</a>]
00:31:08 ◼ ► Baby say I thing was in all this trouble because people were complaining about the quality of the live captioning you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1868">TS</a>]
00:31:14 ◼ ► know because obviously a lot of shows on B.B.C. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1874">TS</a>]
00:31:16 ◼ ► A live captioned by ICE I don't know if it's a used to be sort of stroke of the top people I don't know if it's become [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1876">TS</a>]
00:31:25 ◼ ► Anyway people complaining there are mistakes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1885">TS</a>]
00:31:27 ◼ ► and you know the silly mistakes that happen where a word gets translated into something silly or nonsensical. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1887">TS</a>]
00:31:34 ◼ ► And part of me thought well OK let's get it right. But another part of me thought what are you complaining about. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1894">TS</a>]
00:31:40 ◼ ► This is incredible that you've even got you've even got this this think that this exists. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1900">TS</a>]
00:31:46 ◼ ► Sure there's a few mistakes but can you even I can't believe it's even possible that we can do this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1906">TS</a>]
00:31:52 ◼ ► and people are complaining about a couple of wrong words come along. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1912">TS</a>]
00:31:56 ◼ ► Brady has you know very well people like to complain. So yeah. Everyone everyone has their type I guess. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1916">TS</a>]
00:32:06 ◼ ► Has this is a I think you know you are in a high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1926">TS</a>]
00:32:08 ◼ ► and mighty place to be looking down upon the people complaining about transcription errors in their live captioned Mr. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1928">TS</a>]
00:32:17 ◼ ► and it makes me weep in my car you know it's good to say that my misquoting thing is getting on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1937">TS</a>]
00:32:25 ◼ ► and you're using it back at me now. Yes Yes that's right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1945">TS</a>]
00:32:30 ◼ ► So so Mr Mr I think no one should be taught languages even and no one should be able to speak English. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1950">TS</a>]
00:32:38 ◼ ► There was another article we've got here on the notes as well. I think I spotted this one a sentinel. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1958">TS</a>]
00:32:45 ◼ ► This was a baby see a news article about a report showing that language learning is a slow news brain aging so yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1965">TS</a>]
00:32:54 ◼ ► another excellent reason that we should all be learning other languages. I still disagree with this because as. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1974">TS</a>]
00:33:04 ◼ ► I've seen a bunch of stuff like this talking about the things we came across before it was about language language [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1984">TS</a>]
00:33:11 ◼ ► learning delaying the onset of Alzheimer's for example. Yeah and there's no argument that that is the case. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1991">TS</a>]
00:33:19 ◼ ► But the interesting thing is that it is nothing special about language. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/1999">TS</a>]
00:33:24 ◼ ► It has everything to do with learning something new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2004">TS</a>]
00:33:28 ◼ ► and this is this is this is where you see the interesting articles talking about people doing Sudoku [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2008">TS</a>]
00:33:35 ◼ ► or crossword puzzles and you know that that's highly correlated with delayed onset of Alzheimer's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2015">TS</a>]
00:33:40 ◼ ► or just forgetfulness in general but the interesting thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2020">TS</a>]
00:33:45 ◼ ► when I've dug around in that a little bit is that it has much more to do with the people who do crossword puzzles are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2025">TS</a>]
00:33:52 ◼ ► generally learning new stuff in other areas of their life as well and that is that's really the key thing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2032">TS</a>]
00:34:00 ◼ ► We're kind of keeping your brain young and healthy is to continue to learn new things. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2040">TS</a>]
00:34:07 ◼ ► So but that's my main complaint with articles like this is yes language learning slows brain aging. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2047">TS</a>]
00:34:12 ◼ ► You could do that with anything I'm sure. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2052">TS</a>]
00:34:14 ◼ ► I'm absolutely sure he could do the same thing with programming languages right teaching people how to program a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2054">TS</a>]
00:34:20 ◼ ► computer. I'm sure that would show the exact same kind of result. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2060">TS</a>]
00:34:23 ◼ ► So it's a question of that's not an argument in favor of learning languages in particular. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2063">TS</a>]
00:34:28 ◼ ► That's an argument in favor of learning in general there are many benefits to it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2068">TS</a>]
00:34:33 ◼ ► So I'm still not convinced by this documents at all. Did your best I guess. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2073">TS</a>]
00:34:41 ◼ ► Coleman speaking of words and rightness and wrongness. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2081">TS</a>]
00:34:46 ◼ ► I am going to try to not bring up the ongoing turf war between you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2086">TS</a>]
00:34:53 ◼ ► and I the thing is the thing is you're trying to act all noble here but your time not bring it up. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2093">TS</a>]
00:35:01 ◼ ► The view jacking versus freebooting thing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2101">TS</a>]
00:35:03 ◼ ► However I notice you can converse yet however I am not bringing this up on the internet I am just using the word that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2103">TS</a>]
00:35:12 ◼ ► think is better and then you always chime in with your remarks about how we know what you really think of you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2112">TS</a>]
00:35:19 ◼ ► when you need to do something if I have to I don't think I've ever tweeted you to correct you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2119">TS</a>]
00:35:24 ◼ ► and say oh you should call this this view jacking instead. Well I don't use it anyway. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2124">TS</a>]
00:35:30 ◼ ► You know exactly what you do as you know I you know when it lands there's a debate to be had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2130">TS</a>]
00:35:37 ◼ ► and I have many things to say about the problem with the tones you jacking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2137">TS</a>]
00:35:42 ◼ ► but I respect I respect that you have I respect that you're taking and to building me up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2142">TS</a>]
00:35:51 ◼ ► and helping me with Freeview thing. Anyway it's all good fun and I love the conversation. But anyway I think it's time. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2151">TS</a>]
00:36:00 ◼ ► Just to put that behind us and just let nature but of course what you type [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2160">TS</a>]
00:36:05 ◼ ► and I think you tweeting more stuff now I am not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2165">TS</a>]
00:36:09 ◼ ► and you are up to something I could hear your figures up to a disease that I am I am treating at the moment. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2169">TS</a>]
00:36:17 ◼ ► Actually I just the whole course but my keyboard I will I swear if I were you you would do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2177">TS</a>]
00:36:22 ◼ ► and I was completely listening to your conversation about freebooting it was very interesting thank you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2182">TS</a>]
00:36:32 ◼ ► and I just realized I was trying to find a link earlier and I was unfortunately able to find it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2192">TS</a>]
00:36:38 ◼ ► and I'm going to see if Twitter can find it for me for a discussion later on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2198">TS</a>]
00:36:41 ◼ ► but I swear to New York if you want to keep talking about feebly thing is really no no I didn't talk about it in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2201">TS</a>]
00:36:46 ◼ ► first place. What I want to write I think you did you were the one who brought it up. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2206">TS</a>]
00:36:52 ◼ ► Why do you want to talk about I think you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2212">TS</a>]
00:36:56 ◼ ► or what I did want to talk about was net neutrality because this is the term that there is no replacement for as yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2216">TS</a>]
00:37:10 ◼ ► and I it's amazing actually as a little side it's only occurred to me last night while I was thinking about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2230">TS</a>]
00:37:16 ◼ ► particular issue how little time I now spend just having ideas that you don't really like my thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2236">TS</a>]
00:37:25 ◼ ► and I'm just so busy now and I can go back to having ideas was your thing. Elaborate on that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2245">TS</a>]
00:37:31 ◼ ► Well I like that used to be the thing I've thought I was quite good at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2251">TS</a>]
00:37:34 ◼ ► and people would tell me I was good at what's coming up with all these new ideas and creative things and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2254">TS</a>]
00:37:40 ◼ ► and I feel like I don't do as much anymore because I just have to produce so much stuff to feed my earlier creations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2260">TS</a>]
00:37:47 ◼ ► that I don't sit and just have new thoughts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2267">TS</a>]
00:37:49 ◼ ► and that I need to do it more it was just something I thought if I spent a lot doesn't you know you're really creative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2269">TS</a>]
00:38:00 ◼ ► Working all wouldn't be a good idea to do a video that every element on the periodic table and do it like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2280">TS</a>]
00:38:05 ◼ ► and make it look like this. So then you have to go and make the thing that takes time. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2285">TS</a>]
00:38:12 ◼ ► Anyway I gave myself a bit of free time and I thought about placements for the term net neutrality. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2292">TS</a>]
00:38:19 ◼ ► OK And having just built myself up for having ideas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2299">TS</a>]
00:38:22 ◼ ► and being creative this is just saying Yeah I can't wait to hear this I would be so I failed it obviously is not my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2302">TS</a>]
00:38:29 ◼ ► thing anymore because I didn't do very well but I do have some thoughts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2309">TS</a>]
00:38:34 ◼ ► and I wanted to kind of throw them out there to you and to others [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2314">TS</a>]
00:38:37 ◼ ► and do a bit of a you know a Gugu sit on the bin bag brainstorm everyone talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2317">TS</a>]
00:38:43 ◼ ► when you're holding the beach boat thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2323">TS</a>]
00:38:46 ◼ ► and see if you see if you like any of them will just say some of the things I was thinking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2326">TS</a>]
00:38:53 ◼ ► but let's look at what I want to hear these great ideas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2333">TS</a>]
00:38:56 ◼ ► and could you possibly say unless it is possible that you could say that you know that this is all in your mind if it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2336">TS</a>]
00:39:08 ◼ ► was possible you'd be editing as I said I could. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2348">TS</a>]
00:39:13 ◼ ► So we'll wait for the live editing for a plane crash going that the flight I will even I'm not even giving you the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2353">TS</a>]
00:39:19 ◼ ► pleasure of editing I go in there anymore but you know you have got to be kidding me. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2359">TS</a>]
00:39:24 ◼ ► You have been doing nothing but complaining to me about the lack of plane crash corner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2364">TS</a>]
00:39:28 ◼ ► and I'm all ready for plane crash going to this time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2368">TS</a>]
00:39:31 ◼ ► and now you're not going to do it again I think you just kind of like I do every time now. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2371">TS</a>]
00:39:36 ◼ ► Well I well first of all I only cut it out once and yet I think that was because it was incredibly boring. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2376">TS</a>]
00:39:43 ◼ ► It was just it was just in the humanly boring but it was only bored because you didn't go with it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2383">TS</a>]
00:39:52 ◼ ► No it was required only with practice a patient and I would like you to respond [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2392">TS</a>]
00:39:57 ◼ ► and you were just like you were showing me boring things. Boring anyway. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2397">TS</a>]
00:40:01 ◼ ► I cut that out because it was it was just no one could have sat through that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2401">TS</a>]
00:40:05 ◼ ► and then the second episode we didn't have a plane crash corner. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2405">TS</a>]
00:40:08 ◼ ► You yourself said all that's not to plane crash corner and I said fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2408">TS</a>]
00:40:13 ◼ ► and I didn't I didn't I said we'll talk about it and I mention how it's your mom's favorite section on the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2413">TS</a>]
00:40:19 ◼ ► I did cut it out because if we're going to do it what are we going to get we're going to have a a five minute [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2419">TS</a>]
00:40:24 ◼ ► conversation about how we're not going to do something. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2424">TS</a>]
00:40:26 ◼ ► Now this is we were talking about editing Earlier today I made the editorial decision we don't need to talk about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2426">TS</a>]
00:40:32 ◼ ► thing that we're not going to do all right out it goes. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2432">TS</a>]
00:40:34 ◼ ► So Ruth hello internet with that one out of forty one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2434">TS</a>]
00:40:40 ◼ ► but I'm all right I'm already feeling crushed going to I'm going to be waiting. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2440">TS</a>]
00:40:44 ◼ ► I'm going to be waiting and I'm going to leave whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2444">TS</a>]
00:40:46 ◼ ► or not you do it I'm going to leave this in so that that the Internet can understand what's going on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2446">TS</a>]
00:40:51 ◼ ► but in the meantime let's before we get to Blake I think it will be very exciting. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2451">TS</a>]
00:40:55 ◼ ► Why don't you tell me your exciting that Italian names and. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2455">TS</a>]
00:41:02 ◼ ► We have friends everywhere and I think some people get upset when they hear a slight Jake here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2462">TS</a>]
00:41:06 ◼ ► and I think we're having if I say we should just tell them that you know we have friends that we are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2466">TS</a>]
00:41:12 ◼ ► and if we do have a fight I will just buy you dinner. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2472">TS</a>]
00:41:15 ◼ ► Yeah well no you didn't and not your your top gent for doing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2475">TS</a>]
00:41:20 ◼ ► and then we went back to the hotel I was staying at and I said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2480">TS</a>]
00:41:23 ◼ ► and I said you know let's have another drink at the bar because we haven't a good chat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2483">TS</a>]
00:41:27 ◼ ► and how extortionate were the prices of that by those two drinks cost nearly the price of dinner. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2487">TS</a>]
00:41:34 ◼ ► I don't remember because you paid for that hotel it was a rip off and they wanted to charge fifteen quid for a wife [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2494">TS</a>]
00:41:42 ◼ ► when I had three J C It's still not letting that go on I think you're just delaying because you don't want to tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2502">TS</a>]
00:41:50 ◼ ► everybody your net neutrality name I'm sure I know I can not possibly survive the build up to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2510">TS</a>]
00:41:56 ◼ ► and I'm trying to diffuse the build up a little bit I know you are but it is not. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2516">TS</a>]
00:42:00 ◼ ► So what I'd done well diffusing And there you are building it up again. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2520">TS</a>]
00:42:03 ◼ ► Can you just sort of let it quietly just seep its way back into the conversation. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2523">TS</a>]
00:42:06 ◼ ► So anyway I also have a think about net neutrality in a few different words for I know you want me to use that as an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2526">TS</a>]
00:42:13 ◼ ► edit point no no I don't want it that way but I'm not going to do it that way that was not intentional. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2533">TS</a>]
00:42:20 ◼ ► So I was thinking about things like jumping and leap frogging [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2540">TS</a>]
00:42:24 ◼ ► and things like that because that's part of what it was and I've written down all these and I was thinking of. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2544">TS</a>]
00:42:29 ◼ ► There's been lots of data discrimination which is one that a lot of people are already raised is quite good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2549">TS</a>]
00:42:36 ◼ ► and I was thinking of words that involve like segregation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2556">TS</a>]
00:42:39 ◼ ► or data damning because they kind of a lot of it kind of came to rivers and water and stuff like that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2559">TS</a>]
00:42:46 ◼ ► And I've written all these things I'm going to go through them all now because I can't now. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2566">TS</a>]
00:42:51 ◼ ► I did I did think that pay lanes. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2571">TS</a>]
00:42:54 ◼ ► And cash lanes and also cash for comment was always a really popular controversy in the U.K. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2574">TS</a>]
00:43:01 ◼ ► when A marriage that politics once you had of cash for comment I have not heard a cow getting mixed up actually I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2581">TS</a>]
00:43:07 ◼ ► in Australia that cash for comment caused to be controversy this was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2587">TS</a>]
00:43:10 ◼ ► when radio presenters were taking sly payments to talk about products not like not like in an ad that we do in a kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2590">TS</a>]
00:43:24 ◼ ► and it caused this controversy this cash for comment so I was thinking like you know you could have some dollars for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2604">TS</a>]
00:43:28 ◼ ► data type thing and I had all these rubbish ideas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2608">TS</a>]
00:43:32 ◼ ► but there are a few that I did like the first one I didn't mind I like the sound of although it has got its problems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2612">TS</a>]
00:43:40 ◼ ► was streaming now terrible terribly of on the down telly was terrible and it landed what what is being split. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2620">TS</a>]
00:43:52 ◼ ► I don't understand the stream of data split streaming does that just sound that is twice as much data coming into my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2632">TS</a>]
00:43:59 ◼ ► house if it's. Streamed Interesting OK slow flow no no that's also awful. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2639">TS</a>]
00:44:06 ◼ ► What about and forty this one's kind of already has another yeast I quite liked it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2646">TS</a>]
00:44:11 ◼ ► Narrowband Inc And it's the best in the past [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2651">TS</a>]
00:44:17 ◼ ► but it's still tot Isn't it is it is very hard I think what we saw on the red it was most people I think that the high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2657">TS</a>]
00:44:24 ◼ ► supported alternative was that they just didn't discriminate one nation and there's over quality and then another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2664">TS</a>]
00:44:30 ◼ ► and another thing I quite liked I was thinking something I don't know much about medical terms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2670">TS</a>]
00:44:35 ◼ ► but I was so I was thinking about sporting terms and I thought about sandbagging because that's what's happening here. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2675">TS</a>]
00:44:41 ◼ ► It's sandbagging. I don't know it's I'm betting is is that good. Does that give it does that give us hope. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2681">TS</a>]
00:44:49 ◼ ► I mean sound sandbagging sounds bad. Yeah well let me start sandbagging I mean set. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2689">TS</a>]
00:44:57 ◼ ► No what the oceans from is it from car racing with I would put bags of sand in the car to hide its true performance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2697">TS</a>]
00:45:04 ◼ ► and then on race day you take out the bags of sand and you cause larger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2704">TS</a>]
00:45:07 ◼ ► and all the other cars much faster than I realized. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2707">TS</a>]
00:45:09 ◼ ► That happens a lot in other games and sports [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2709">TS</a>]
00:45:12 ◼ ► and things like that where players pretend to not be as good as they are for the reasons of their ratings like in chess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2712">TS</a>]
00:45:18 ◼ ► for example you would lose chess games at times that don't matter to get a lower rating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2718">TS</a>]
00:45:24 ◼ ► and then you kind of blitz everyone later on taking advantage of your low ranking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2724">TS</a>]
00:45:29 ◼ ► and that's kind of what they're doing with data here they're sandbagging they're weighing down slowing down certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2729">TS</a>]
00:45:34 ◼ ► data and it has a kind of negative connotation to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2734">TS</a>]
00:45:39 ◼ ► and it's also quite a fun term so sandbagging the best of the bunch. I've still got so much data. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2739">TS</a>]
00:45:48 ◼ ► Yes Yes Brady idea machine man has more ideas to come up with I think for that one thing split streaming in there of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2748">TS</a>]
00:45:57 ◼ ► ending a cool words the problem with split streaming from. May is it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2757">TS</a>]
00:46:01 ◼ ► It actually sounds to quote sounds like a good thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2761">TS</a>]
00:46:03 ◼ ► but oh yeah yeah I know that the My initial reaction to it is well it sounds good and I don't know quite why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2763">TS</a>]
00:46:10 ◼ ► but that doesn't sound like it's good. Yeah dreams are fast and it sounds like it's good. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2770">TS</a>]
00:46:16 ◼ ► Narrow banding I think it's going to be axed after that after that huge build up on your part after that one quality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2776">TS</a>]
00:46:23 ◼ ► such as I tried to dial it down a bit but I wasn't trying to say like I was his idees machine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2783">TS</a>]
00:46:27 ◼ ► when I was trying to talk about was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2787">TS</a>]
00:46:29 ◼ ► when we become busy people we have less idea less this time for ideas was kind of my my point that kind of I failed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2789">TS</a>]
00:46:37 ◼ ► make miserably before I then failed to do you think if you had more time you would have come up with better ideas. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2797">TS</a>]
00:46:44 ◼ ► I don't think this is a time issue. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2804">TS</a>]
00:46:46 ◼ ► If we gave you an eight hour workday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2806">TS</a>]
00:46:47 ◼ ► and we paid you what we know what you would have your your last earnings for that time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2807">TS</a>]
00:46:53 ◼ ► and we give you straight eight straight hours to come up with a better name. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2813">TS</a>]
00:46:55 ◼ ► I'm not convinced that you could I mean I don't know it and I reckon I would really. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2815">TS</a>]
00:47:00 ◼ ► Yeah because I've got your very confident men are going for a swim. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2820">TS</a>]
00:47:04 ◼ ► I'm not saying I've come up with like a good enough idea and I'm certain it will come up with answers. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2824">TS</a>]
00:47:09 ◼ ► Just saying if I paid you for eight hours of work you certainly would think of that real art [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2829">TS</a>]
00:47:13 ◼ ► and I'm saying I would come up with a better ones than that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2833">TS</a>]
00:47:17 ◼ ► I would come up with your place because you will only be places [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2837">TS</a>]
00:47:20 ◼ ► when that you come up with that is not true at all that is that is an unjust [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2840">TS</a>]
00:47:25 ◼ ► and unjust remark it isn't just because you didn't come up with you jacking say and I did not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2845">TS</a>]
00:47:31 ◼ ► and you are pushing that power because for the work. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2851">TS</a>]
00:47:35 ◼ ► and the final thing I would be remiss if I did not mention this thing that one hundred people at least must have e-mailed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2855">TS</a>]
00:47:40 ◼ ► and tweeted me which is the John Oliver's video on net neutrality. Yes yes of course a lot of people said that to us. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2860">TS</a>]
00:47:51 ◼ ► and his alternate term was cable company for three of his his suggestion for net neutrality because he to come. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2871">TS</a>]
00:48:03 ◼ ► and the boringness of the term net neutrality so I would put it in the show notes although I have a hard time imagining [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2883">TS</a>]
00:48:08 ◼ ► that anybody listening to the show has not already seen that clip which was done it was done very well most of it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2888">TS</a>]
00:48:16 ◼ ► really good it was really good. Yeah so I think that was you know another one so the net neutrality Brady flow. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2896">TS</a>]
00:48:25 ◼ ► Because do you know that Brady in some context means slow really celebrating his fate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2905">TS</a>]
00:48:35 ◼ ► and I was thinking well I can't have all the glory it can't be called Brady fly. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2915">TS</a>]
00:48:39 ◼ ► Also because I don't want my name attached to something. Rubbish. What about great data. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2919">TS</a>]
00:48:45 ◼ ► Because then we could have black black data which is stuff that isn't allowed to come through anyway. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2925">TS</a>]
00:48:50 ◼ ► White data white listed data which is the stuff that so premium and paid for and gets the golden ticket [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2930">TS</a>]
00:48:56 ◼ ► and then you've got great data which is stuff that gets laid down and has this dreary life getting through the pipes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2936">TS</a>]
00:49:02 ◼ ► and might come to the house and I was trying to you know I think that's also a terrible suggestion. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2942">TS</a>]
00:49:07 ◼ ► It's hard to believe in what you just said there are white listing blacklisting and great listing are already words [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2947">TS</a>]
00:49:13 ◼ ► and they don't have anything to do with speed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2953">TS</a>]
00:49:15 ◼ ► and the same thing with a white hat black hat grey hat hackers think there's the China trying to connect the color with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2955">TS</a>]
00:49:22 ◼ ► the with the slowness I think is not so good. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2962">TS</a>]
00:49:25 ◼ ► Whereas the color gray obviously has lots of connotations with being in the middle which I think works for me because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2965">TS</a>]
00:49:32 ◼ ► in most of my opinions are quite reasonable and quite in the middle. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2972">TS</a>]
00:49:36 ◼ ► Unlike yourself who's taking nothing but extreme positions on everything all the time do you think. Oh yeah. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2976">TS</a>]
00:49:42 ◼ ► Nothing but clean with incredibly extreme positions on over an extreme person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2982">TS</a>]
00:49:47 ◼ ► and I do sometimes frustratingly non-extreme that's what I want you to be more extreme and your thoughts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2987">TS</a>]
00:49:54 ◼ ► but Joe is you know is Mr Reasonable Oh I can see both sides of the issue. That's that's you. Do you agree. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/2994">TS</a>]
00:50:03 ◼ ► Yeah I guess yeah I do see I I think there is more to every story than people realize. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/3003">TS</a>]
00:50:11 ◼ ► I think the world and life is extremely complex and we make a lot of judgments and decisions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/3011">TS</a>]
00:50:16 ◼ ► and our views are not very well informed. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/3016">TS</a>]
00:50:23 ◼ ► So I'm reluctant to have a really really solid position on lots of things because I just know I don't know all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/3023">TS</a>]
00:50:32 ◼ ► But it's funny you say that because I would agree with everything you said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/3032">TS</a>]
00:50:35 ◼ ► but sometimes I will still end up with a stick. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/3035">TS</a>]
00:50:39 ◼ ► Well I think we do have to take positions and stance you can't just keep flopping in the wind on everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/3039">TS</a>]
00:50:44 ◼ ► but that's why I kind of sometimes I'm quite mild is because I'm like well I don't know I don't know the whole story. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/3044">TS</a>]
00:50:53 ◼ ► No one does. Who am I to make it who much to say. Well let's talk about shredders stratas. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/3053">TS</a>]
00:51:02 ◼ ► OK I see this on the notes What is it what is it if you want to talk about this thread is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/3062">TS</a>]
00:51:06 ◼ ► when did this come up I was just reading something. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/3066">TS</a>]
00:51:12 ◼ ► Yes it I think you I was in the middle of shredding the messenger instead of in the middle of shredding all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/3072">TS</a>]
00:51:19 ◼ ► documents and I will never ever know to shred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/3079">TS</a>]
00:51:23 ◼ ► and you were like you can believe that you were quite surprised I thought yes I was I was surprised I was disbelieving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/3083">TS</a>]
00:51:33 ◼ ► This is it I mean your dad is a tax attorney or something isn't a say yeah he is my father is both a lawyer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/3093">TS</a>]
00:51:41 ◼ ► and a tax attorney you would have to have a tax attorney asked for a lawyer and a tax attorney. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/3101">TS</a>]
00:51:51 ◼ ► Yes My dad has this in his office in North Carolina he has this big borderline industrial. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/3111">TS</a>]
00:52:01 ◼ ► but I mean that of course as a lawyer he's dealing with pieces of paper that have this very private information on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/3121">TS</a>]
00:52:08 ◼ ► people so scary numbers and income estimates and all that kind of stuff. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/3128">TS</a>]
00:52:12 ◼ ► So he needs a real industrial shredder to deal with getting rid of that kind of stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/3132">TS</a>]
00:52:17 ◼ ► and I guess he always instilled in me the value of shredding documents without any personal information [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/3137">TS</a>]
00:52:24 ◼ ► and is due to very the shredding documents. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/3144">TS</a>]
00:52:27 ◼ ► Yes I think well I think in my own spin on this which is that I think what you were making fun of me over instant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/3147">TS</a>]
00:52:35 ◼ ► messenger was that I was telling you that I just read every piece of paper every piece of paper that I'm getting rid of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/3155">TS</a>]
00:52:42 ◼ ► it just goes in the shredder and that is not out of paranoia. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/3162">TS</a>]
00:52:47 ◼ ► What that is is reducing cognitive load so that I never make a decision about oh is this a charade where the piece of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/3167">TS</a>]
00:52:54 ◼ ► paper or not all paper is shredded worthy. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/3174">TS</a>]
00:52:56 ◼ ► That's just the way it works that's just the rule [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/3176">TS</a>]
00:52:59 ◼ ► and that's the sort of that's I like doing that like you know I have pre-decided [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/3179">TS</a>]
00:53:03 ◼ ► and gotten rid of a thousand decisions over the course of my lifetime with just making this the rule. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/3183">TS</a>]
00:53:10 ◼ ► Doesn't even matter if it's just the on the low but something came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/3190">TS</a>]
00:53:12 ◼ ► and it all goes in the shredder I swear someone should do some psychological study of you. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/3192">TS</a>]
00:53:18 ◼ ► You would be you'd be an absolute gold mine does that not sound reasonable to you know I think that's all you know even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/3198">TS</a>]
00:53:23 ◼ ► though this sounds so ridiculously reasonable. It sounds so no reason than human. That's great. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/3203">TS</a>]
00:53:31 ◼ ► I don't understand what you even mean by ridiculously reasonable rational. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/3211">TS</a>]
00:53:36 ◼ ► I've rationalized what do you hear your word if it can't be it can't be true rational how if something was too rational. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/3216">TS</a>]
00:53:46 ◼ ► You're just you're describing something that must be irrational which is that it can't be rational then I just think I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/3226">TS</a>]
00:53:53 ◼ ► am being rational I think you are irrationally rational and I know that doesn't make any Lyme to shred everything. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/3233">TS</a>]
00:54:00 ◼ ► Or that you don't have to make a decision about whether to shred things or not I don't know why that's so funny. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/3240">TS</a>]
00:54:10 ◼ ► Like I mean it makes sense like I said it makes sense but I just kind of a bit have you gotten this right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/3250">TS</a>]
00:54:15 ◼ ► or are you going to join me on this. Well I haven't got a shredder and a pub and didn't you say you had some big time. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/3255">TS</a>]
00:54:22 ◼ ► If you had to shred that you're just. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/3262">TS</a>]
00:54:23 ◼ ► Yeah I guess there's some I had the corner of your mouth Liam reserved for pieces of paper that you're never going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/3263">TS</a>]
00:54:29 ◼ ► shred that you're just keeping is that I actually don't know whether it's that typical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/3269">TS</a>]
00:54:32 ◼ ► when I think of no better even better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/3272">TS</a>]
00:54:36 ◼ ► when those sensitive pieces of paper go I know not where they are I don't think I've ever heard you as upset at me as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/3276">TS</a>]
00:54:45 ◼ ► when you found out that I have a little notebook full of passwords. Gods now don't even go anywhere. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/3285">TS</a>]
00:54:53 ◼ ► No no no no I don't I'm not I'm not even sure we can have a conversation about this now I feel like I need to prepare [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/3293">TS</a>]
00:55:03 ◼ ► for this. I mean I think people you know as one of on an electronic device or something there. Yeah. Where when. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/3303">TS</a>]
00:55:11 ◼ ► Which is completely imperious is not allowed in at least someone has to break into my house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/3311">TS</a>]
00:55:17 ◼ ► and physically take it to get my passwords and the sort of people who break into houses and smash windows. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/3317">TS</a>]
00:55:24 ◼ ► The sort of people who are more likely to do a poo on your bed hack into your computer. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/3324">TS</a>]
00:55:29 ◼ ► Where is the sort of people who are going to get your passwords out of your phone in some clever way. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/3329">TS</a>]
00:55:33 ◼ ► The exact sort of people who want to steal passwords because they want to sort of the Crimea I think having your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/3333">TS</a>]
00:55:38 ◼ ► passwords written on a piece of paper in your house is safer than having them on your phone. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/3338">TS</a>]
00:55:46 ◼ ► Oh well think I'll actually if I can calm down for a moment I will actually agree that having I mean you hide this I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/3346">TS</a>]
00:55:57 ◼ ► hope somewhere in your house or it's not just. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/3357">TS</a>]
00:56:00 ◼ ► You don't have a book that is written on the front cover passwords to all my important things. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/3360">TS</a>]
00:56:04 ◼ ► And you leave it next to the computer somewhere else. Oh no that information you just said is the case now. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/3364">TS</a>]
00:56:14 ◼ ► So I will I will agree that writing passwords down is not necessarily the worst thing that you can possibly do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/3374">TS</a>]
00:56:24 ◼ ► but it's also just an issue of that's just that's just as really clunky. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/3384">TS</a>]
00:56:31 ◼ ► It's just a very because I know you're a person who has at the very least a large number of Google accounts to deal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/3391">TS</a>]
00:56:37 ◼ ► with so many passwords it's ridiculous. Yeah so. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/3397">TS</a>]
00:56:41 ◼ ► So we need to do what we need to do to get one password on as a sponsor for the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/3401">TS</a>]
00:56:47 ◼ ► and then we can do we can do double duty where I can yell at you for awhile about what you should do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/3407">TS</a>]
00:56:52 ◼ ► and then we can have one password sponsor sponsor the show will do that at some point we can but. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/3412">TS</a>]
00:57:01 ◼ ► Anyway we need we need to get back to the thing we started with Fred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/3421">TS</a>]
00:57:03 ◼ ► and you want to bring up the shredders So why aren't you buying one. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/3423">TS</a>]
00:57:07 ◼ ► Why aren't you doing this can I buy you a shredder was you would you accept a shredder into your house you're trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/3427">TS</a>]
00:57:13 ◼ ► give me some D.V.D. Player that I don't want. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/3433">TS</a>]
00:57:15 ◼ ► Meanwhile you desperately need a shredder can I help you with that with that I think I would call it like I think I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/3435">TS</a>]
00:57:20 ◼ ► would quite like the noise and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/3440">TS</a>]
00:57:22 ◼ ► and how they would look at all of the shut up it's not going to take up the lakes is it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/3442">TS</a>]
00:57:29 ◼ ► I will I will get you a shredder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/3449">TS</a>]
00:57:32 ◼ ► and you have to get one that does cross cutting that's the that's the that's the way to go. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/3452">TS</a>]
00:57:36 ◼ ► Cross was that let's you know was just the just the lengthwise part so I'm not those links. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/3456">TS</a>]
00:57:43 ◼ ► but the point is not to make it like it's in the movies The point is to shred the document you can even get better ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/3463">TS</a>]
00:57:48 ◼ ► that basically powder eyes the piece of paper that just grind it up into dust. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/3468">TS</a>]
00:57:53 ◼ ► That's you know that's really the thing about the long stripes is you have got like and you've got an out. Like if you. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/3473">TS</a>]
00:58:00 ◼ ► Should something you weren't supposed to shred you could do what I do in the movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/3480">TS</a>]
00:58:03 ◼ ► and next if you take that back together and which I've always thought I could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/3483">TS</a>]
00:58:07 ◼ ► when you know that that's the scenario you want to optimize for how could I do this if I shredded the wrong guy so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/3487">TS</a>]
00:58:14 ◼ ► good to have an end. Yes I guess your whole life is just so different from mine. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/3494">TS</a>]
00:58:20 ◼ ► Today look not so I don't want I want to be a nice subject I imagine you found a nice looking one. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/3500">TS</a>]
00:58:25 ◼ ► Well this is I I have to get a new one from my new office. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/3505">TS</a>]
00:58:28 ◼ ► I have I have a little I have a little tiny one at the moment you could have any if you want a picture of my strength [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/3508">TS</a>]
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01:12:47 ◼ ► and I still get comments from people all the time saying oh you really need to make that videos on some video on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/4367">TS</a>]
01:12:52 ◼ ► Settlers of Catan. But it's the same phenomenon that those people are imagining in their mind. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/4372">TS</a>]
01:12:59 ◼ ► A theoretical great video and that's that's not what I would necessarily have made. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/4379">TS</a>]
01:13:07 ◼ ► Oh I would love to hear you talk about The Hobbit for hours would you really are you just imagining a really great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/4387">TS</a>]
01:13:12 ◼ ► version of that so I think this is this is this Amazon Video I think to me is a perfect example of don't pre-announce [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/4392">TS</a>]
01:13:18 ◼ ► Companies just keep it to yourself and then and then have some announcement saying here's the thing that we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/4398">TS</a>]
01:13:24 ◼ ► and you can buy it today I think that Apple method is is just much much better so I approve of their secrecy I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/4404">TS</a>]
01:13:30 ◼ ► it's a it's a good it's a good thing to do don't don't build up stuff just just have it available [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/4410">TS</a>]
01:13:36 ◼ ► and also make good stuff and people will be quite happy with that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/4416">TS</a>]
01:13:40 ◼ ► So before you leave us to come and I was developer All right you are still making videos. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/4420">TS</a>]
01:13:48 ◼ ► Yes I'm still me and it is again one of those rare moments you have put a video out. Yes yes the counter has reset. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/4428">TS</a>]
01:13:57 ◼ ► Well only reset briefly because you released. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/4437">TS</a>]
01:14:00 ◼ ► Something Yeah ten minutes after I put up of it did you actually get strange and zero into that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/4440">TS</a>]
01:14:04 ◼ ► and I know I didn't have a thing you were holding you have some video that you are holding back now all the time I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/4444">TS</a>]
01:14:11 ◼ ► assume to release immediately afterward that doesn't work because it works on the upload time it was pure coincidence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/4451">TS</a>]
01:14:17 ◼ ► and I'm sure you're just going to have the video that you're going to wait to upload until after I try to put something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/4457">TS</a>]
01:14:23 ◼ ► I mean not that I'm out you release videos practically hourly anyway so I have to be quick if I want to get a screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/4463">TS</a>]
01:14:28 ◼ ► shot of the Brady vs gray counter at zero for Brady one for me. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/4468">TS</a>]
01:14:34 ◼ ► Doesn't really matter but if you want to just be a is about for those who have been saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/4474">TS</a>]
01:14:39 ◼ ► and if you listen to how I went in and you're a fan of say T.P.K. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/4479">TS</a>]
01:14:43 ◼ ► I'm a bit disappointed you haven't watched the video yet but but just for those who don't know is about family trees [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/4483">TS</a>]
01:14:51 ◼ ► and how they work and yes I have a cow cousins work and grandparents and all those sort of things. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/4491">TS</a>]
01:14:58 ◼ ► Yes because this is really the heart of that video but it's about the titles in family structure is what it's about. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/4498">TS</a>]
01:15:09 ◼ ► This one has been on my list for either two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/4509">TS</a>]
01:15:14 ◼ ► or three years now because I myself went to a family reunion for my wife's family [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/4514">TS</a>]
01:15:23 ◼ ► and didn't know any of these terms cousins and the cousins is really the complicated one. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/4523">TS</a>]
01:15:32 ◼ ► But even the things like grand niece exactly who is this person who's a grand niece. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/4532">TS</a>]
01:15:39 ◼ ► So I was at a family reunion and of course I'm an inlaw to all of these people in my wife's family [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/4539">TS</a>]
01:15:46 ◼ ► and I ended up at the family reunion. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/4546">TS</a>]
01:15:51 ◼ ► Partly because all of these people were new to me of course my wife knows who they are they're her family [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/4551">TS</a>]
01:15:56 ◼ ► but this is the first something I had been to since we got married and. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/4556">TS</a>]
01:16:00 ◼ ► I ended up going around like a total nerd with my i Pad and talking to people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/4560">TS</a>]
01:16:07 ◼ ► and figuring out where they go on the family tree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/4567">TS</a>]
01:16:09 ◼ ► and making a little family tree to try to connect everybody because I got I got a pretty accurate impression of her you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/4569">TS</a>]
01:16:16 ◼ ► were pretty quickly then do you think that's fair. One thing in there with the i Pad feeling in a family trait. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/4576">TS</a>]
01:16:23 ◼ ► I guess that is a dumb idea anyway so I thought I did that just a minute because it is very rare for me to be in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/4583">TS</a>]
01:16:33 ◼ ► social situation where I'm actually going to meet such a large number of new people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/4593">TS</a>]
01:16:38 ◼ ► and I have since my family is very small. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/4598">TS</a>]
01:16:43 ◼ ► I had no mental framework in which to place all of these people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/4603">TS</a>]
01:16:46 ◼ ► and that's partly why I thought OK if I'm going to meet thirty new people I need a diagram for all of you so I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/4606">TS</a>]
01:16:53 ◼ ► understand where you are in relationship to my wife and so therefore where you are. Relationship to me. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/4613">TS</a>]
01:16:59 ◼ ► So that was very handy although I. Yeah that's it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/4619">TS</a>]
01:17:04 ◼ ► Anyway since that experience I have been thinking of doing the family tree video for quite a while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/4624">TS</a>]
01:17:09 ◼ ► and have now have yes because I had to make was I mean it's taken years what was the what was the roadblock between you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/4629">TS</a>]
01:17:16 ◼ ► thinking I should make a video that isn't actually making that video. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/4636">TS</a>]
01:17:20 ◼ ► It's not it's not like you had to you know this stuff would have been hard to find out I imagine. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/4640">TS</a>]
01:17:25 ◼ ► No no I mean this is this is one of the things where I haven't been actively been actively working on this for three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/4645">TS</a>]
01:17:30 ◼ ► years I'd be quite sad it's just been on my list of projects to work on and for various reasons. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/4650">TS</a>]
01:17:36 ◼ ► It eventually filtered its way up to the top of the list. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/4656">TS</a>]
01:17:40 ◼ ► This was relatively quick that partly because the net neutrality video ended up bumping back something else that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/4660">TS</a>]
01:17:44 ◼ ► supposed to happen and I was trying to pick something that would be faster to do in this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/4664">TS</a>]
01:17:48 ◼ ► This seemed like a natural topic to pick but I think I'm relatively pleased. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/4668">TS</a>]
01:17:53 ◼ ► It's a it's a weird one though because it's actually a live. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/4673">TS</a>]
01:18:00 ◼ ► Not typical of your videos or certainly of your recent videos. So a lot a lot of people have said that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/4680">TS</a>]
01:18:05 ◼ ► I'm curious can you tell me what the word What about it do you think is it typical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/4685">TS</a>]
01:18:10 ◼ ► or why do you think it's different if you can you know I don't mean to put you on a smile I know a lot of money put on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/4690">TS</a>]
01:18:15 ◼ ► the spot but yeah I'll have to think a kind of to think um I say if I can give you Brady thinking time you can come. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/4695">TS</a>]
01:18:22 ◼ ► I'll just I'll just make it up as I go in. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/4702">TS</a>]
01:18:27 ◼ ► I mean it is a kind of visual it was different because it didn't have I had a lot less variety in the usual videos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/4707">TS</a>]
01:18:36 ◼ ► because you can't you just navigated your way around this family tree up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/4716">TS</a>]
01:18:41 ◼ ► and down unless you say it didn't have to fit it didn't have the feeling of like a journey that some of the other ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/4721">TS</a>]
01:18:48 ◼ ► have of moving to different places and different people and different. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/4728">TS</a>]
01:18:52 ◼ ► So in that respect it was it was visually different than I found it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/4732">TS</a>]
01:18:59 ◼ ► I've found I'm more confusing than I have found some of the videos like I think I said to you after I watched it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/4739">TS</a>]
01:19:08 ◼ ► in our own personal communication I said I like Oh I had to watch a second time in a kind of this and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/4748">TS</a>]
01:19:15 ◼ ► and I think that has a lot to do with me being just the way I absorb information. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/4755">TS</a>]
01:19:21 ◼ ► I'm not a good attention paid and I'm a bit maybe I'm just a bit slow but the fast videos I struggle with anyway. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/4761">TS</a>]
01:19:31 ◼ ► and absorb a slow state maybe in this one I was kind of like whoa whoa what was that like that so that others that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/4771">TS</a>]
01:19:39 ◼ ► did take a lot from our lot to and I really like and I think it was a really good video to have made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/4779">TS</a>]
01:19:46 ◼ ► and to exist I think you're really feeling and they eat which is both good for our trysting raisins [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/4786">TS</a>]
01:19:51 ◼ ► and hopefully is good for you because lots of people watch it over a long you know it's about time the city. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/4791">TS</a>]
01:19:57 ◼ ► Yes You know it's funny though. Two things that I hate. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/4797">TS</a>]
01:20:02 ◼ ► There was one part of the video that I struggled with which I had two different audio tracks I recorded the audio in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/4802">TS</a>]
01:20:08 ◼ ► two different very different ways one of which was much slower. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/4808">TS</a>]
01:20:12 ◼ ► One of which was the one that ended up going live just a faster version of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/4812">TS</a>]
01:20:17 ◼ ► and I'm going to forget stuff that I've said before so this is my blanket I may have said it before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/4817">TS</a>]
01:20:23 ◼ ► and I'll try never to say it again the podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/4823">TS</a>]
01:20:25 ◼ ► but in the videos I'm trying to be very intentional about having the speed be inversely proportional to how much I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/4825">TS</a>]
01:20:34 ◼ ► expecting people to remember something. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/4834">TS</a>]
01:20:36 ◼ ► OK so I go slower when I want people to remember things or I think something is complicated and I go faster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/4836">TS</a>]
01:20:42 ◼ ► when it's it's you just need to get the gist of this but the details don't matter. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/4842">TS</a>]
01:20:46 ◼ ► Like lists of countries I always get asked of course because I don't expect someone to remember twenty seven country I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/4846">TS</a>]
01:20:52 ◼ ► do know that a big list exists. That's exactly right that that's the time where it's perfectly fine to go really fast. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/4852">TS</a>]
01:20:58 ◼ ► Yeah. And so I felt like this this whole video should have been slower. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/4858">TS</a>]
01:21:06 ◼ ► That was one reason why I had the slower audio track. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/4866">TS</a>]
01:21:09 ◼ ► But like you said with the visuals being very different I was really aware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/4869">TS</a>]
01:21:14 ◼ ► when I was animating it yet because there was less going on. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/4874">TS</a>]
01:21:18 ◼ ► It could have been quite pedestrian just slowly roaming around the family tree. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/4878">TS</a>]
01:21:22 ◼ ► The video felt like death with the slow audio track [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/4882">TS</a>]
01:21:26 ◼ ► and it was it was amazing how much of a difference it made I thought I can't I can't put this up. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/4886">TS</a>]
01:21:33 ◼ ► It's just it's just I mean it wasn't even much longer I think that the slower audio track ended up being like thirty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/4893">TS</a>]
01:21:41 ◼ ► or forty seconds longer in total. Yeah. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/4901">TS</a>]
01:21:44 ◼ ► So maybe the whole thing is ten or twenty percent longer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/4904">TS</a>]
01:21:49 ◼ ► but it really made such a difference that I thought even though I would like this video to be slower it it has to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/4909">TS</a>]
01:21:56 ◼ ► faster because of the nature of the visuals and you will help with this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/4916">TS</a>]
01:22:00 ◼ ► But actually when I was at a meeting and I thought you know what. This would make a really good Brady video. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/4920">TS</a>]
01:22:07 ◼ ► No I thought having someone explain this in your video format might work much better. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/4927">TS</a>]
01:22:14 ◼ ► Because in preparation to do this one I spoke to a few people in person trying to walk through the cousins thing to try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/4934">TS</a>]
01:22:20 ◼ ► to see how people where did people get confused by it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/4940">TS</a>]
01:22:24 ◼ ► Yeah and I found in person this worked much better and I could see I was a little conversation back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/4944">TS</a>]
01:22:31 ◼ ► and forth between people this is good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/4951">TS</a>]
01:22:33 ◼ ► and so I was immediately thinking like the number of file videos this is this is almost a perfect operate for someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/4953">TS</a>]
01:22:38 ◼ ► with a with a pen and a piece of paper to go through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/4958">TS</a>]
01:22:40 ◼ ► and let's talk about the relationships of all these people so we were discussing last week with originality. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/4960">TS</a>]
01:22:46 ◼ ► I think this is a topic that you could totally do again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/4966">TS</a>]
01:22:49 ◼ ► and I would be very interested to see the family file video on Cousin structure and. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/4969">TS</a>]
01:22:57 ◼ ► As an interview though as a as a lucky just an explainer someone let me asking questions all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/4977">TS</a>]
01:23:03 ◼ ► or just a good explainer doing as I think the way you do most of your videos you are filming somebody else talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/4983">TS</a>]
01:23:10 ◼ ► You're obviously asking questions in person but you often edit those questions out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/4990">TS</a>]
01:23:14 ◼ ► and then you were filming the person going through the things I think it could be done again in that way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/4994">TS</a>]
01:23:20 ◼ ► and be another interesting video to watch because I agree if it ended up being a little too fast and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5000">TS</a>]
01:23:27 ◼ ► but I guess that I think that with that was just it was the natural result of the way the animations worked. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5007">TS</a>]
01:23:32 ◼ ► Interesting by Paris and some man. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5012">TS</a>]
01:23:34 ◼ ► I'm very I will I don't want to compare your videos to mine because I think your videos are better in a lot of waste in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5014">TS</a>]
01:23:43 ◼ ► but the way because I recently did a video where I explain something myself which was this Monty Hall sequel that I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5023">TS</a>]
01:23:51 ◼ ► not at all I guess where I sort of said OK I sort of took the bull by the horns of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5031">TS</a>]
01:23:55 ◼ ► and said OK I've had all these other videos about what I want to explain how I would explain to them. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5035">TS</a>]
01:24:00 ◼ ► One so that for me was watching myself explain something in a way you know watching is me trying to do what you eat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5040">TS</a>]
01:24:08 ◼ ► what you do and you know Henry doesn't know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5048">TS</a>]
01:24:10 ◼ ► Oh you guys you know just to spin and explain myself and I found it interesting to see how I did do it differently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5050">TS</a>]
01:24:17 ◼ ► and I did do it quite slowly I mean I didn't because it's not has got much information on my video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5057">TS</a>]
01:24:23 ◼ ► and it's just let me say that again I understand. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5063">TS</a>]
01:24:26 ◼ ► I want them out of the whole problem deserves that it deserves a very slow walk through of what the link in the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5066">TS</a>]
01:24:34 ◼ ► notes for people listening problem with with to go to the car behind the door the host changes on you know we talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5074">TS</a>]
01:24:43 ◼ ► about that little bit beforehand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5083">TS</a>]
01:24:44 ◼ ► and that that is one that really deserves a slow walk I could never make a video about the about the mud the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5084">TS</a>]
01:24:52 ◼ ► Quickly it which would defeat the whole purpose of doing a video like that no one would be able to follow it I guess I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5092">TS</a>]
01:24:58 ◼ ► look like when I'm being when I'm teaching someone something and I'm told I'm quite annoying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5098">TS</a>]
01:25:04 ◼ ► If I'm probably not a good example but I do like to like emphasize things and say things twice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5104">TS</a>]
01:25:09 ◼ ► and say did you say that look I'm going to show you that again and they say fastidious don't lend themselves to that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5109">TS</a>]
01:25:14 ◼ ► and that's where I kind of well that's why I watch them twice. Two views. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5114">TS</a>]
01:25:20 ◼ ► Yes Oh it's not really that I have hundreds of thousands of people watching my videos I have tens of thousands of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5120">TS</a>]
01:25:26 ◼ ► people watch it and many times it's proper I'm sure that's not the case. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5126">TS</a>]
01:25:30 ◼ ► Anyway let's go back to the video though because if you there's a couple of things to talk about that have fallen out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5130">TS</a>]
01:25:35 ◼ ► from we have to do is and as soon as it went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5135">TS</a>]
01:25:40 ◼ ► and everyone was waiting for us to talk about some the podcast you made a mistake. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5140">TS</a>]
01:25:47 ◼ ► Yes yes let's I'll let you I'll let you explain it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5147">TS</a>]
01:25:53 ◼ ► Yeah so in the video there is a section where I talk about in-laws and I. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5153">TS</a>]
01:26:00 ◼ ► Mistakenly used the phrase in law or prefix or I say you add the in-law prefix to the title to get the full name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5160">TS</a>]
01:26:10 ◼ ► and of course you talk about a brother in law. It comes at the end it's a suffix not a prefix. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5170">TS</a>]
01:26:17 ◼ ► So for those who didn't even realize that mistakes in there it's not like a structural mistake to the explanation here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5177">TS</a>]
01:26:23 ◼ ► it's just your affair you made almost you almost making a sort of an offhand remark about this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5183">TS</a>]
01:26:29 ◼ ► This prefix when in fact should have said it's a suffix [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5189">TS</a>]
01:26:31 ◼ ► but it doesn't it doesn't change the meaning of the video in any way it's just a pedantic little little point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5191">TS</a>]
01:26:41 ◼ ► Yeah if I did this I didn't know I watched it twice and didn't notice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5201">TS</a>]
01:26:45 ◼ ► and then I had said I want to have Gray's comments a going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5205">TS</a>]
01:26:47 ◼ ► and then all of these comments about every everybody every comment Well that's what. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5207">TS</a>]
01:26:52 ◼ ► Since you just brought up an interesting point I'd like to go on the record here. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5212">TS</a>]
01:26:55 ◼ ► So very often people spot a comment like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5215">TS</a>]
01:26:59 ◼ ► and then they'll say something to me like why don't you just put up an annotation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5219">TS</a>]
01:27:04 ◼ ► and instead of avoiding all of these comments and four for a video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5224">TS</a>]
01:27:11 ◼ ► or for an error like that I will never put up an annotation because it doesn't like that that that error doesn't matter. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5231">TS</a>]
01:27:20 ◼ ► There's nobody out there who's speaking English who is going to be writing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5240">TS</a>]
01:27:24 ◼ ► or saying in law brother as a result of my video. No one's going to do that no one's going to make that mistake. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5244">TS</a>]
01:27:31 ◼ ► So I don't put at the end the annotation because my suspicion is that most people don't notice and it doesn't matter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5251">TS</a>]
01:27:39 ◼ ► and putting up the annotation then is just it's a distraction from the video is the same reason why it with Iran that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5259">TS</a>]
01:27:48 ◼ ► a bold campaign to get rid of the pop up ads because those those pop up ads come twelve seconds into the video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5268">TS</a>]
01:27:55 ◼ ► and it's just it's such a distraction for a moment from I'm just watching this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5275">TS</a>]
01:28:01 ◼ ► and I think any kind of annotation you run that same risk that the annotation is just for a moment it divert someone's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5281">TS</a>]
01:28:09 ◼ ► and since I think most people don't notice I don't want to put something like that up to call attention to it it has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5289">TS</a>]
01:28:16 ◼ ► nothing to do with so I hope people think that I'm right about everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5296">TS</a>]
01:28:19 ◼ ► and it just it just has more to do with that little element of distraction. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5299">TS</a>]
01:28:22 ◼ ► Yes it's like clattering their viewing experience. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5302">TS</a>]
01:28:25 ◼ ► Yes and I know every letter is a visual clutter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5305">TS</a>]
01:28:28 ◼ ► and I actually my wife watch the video I didn't say anything to her about it and she didn't notice either. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5308">TS</a>]
01:28:35 ◼ ► When did you realize the mistake was there. Oh I knew it in the audio tracks I had it you know when you editing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5315">TS</a>]
01:28:41 ◼ ► Yeah that is part the problem is actually I phrased it slightly differently in the slower audio track [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5321">TS</a>]
01:28:47 ◼ ► and the phrase in the slightly wrong way in the faster audio track [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5327">TS</a>]
01:28:50 ◼ ► and I was I spent a good while trying to edit around this but I knew it was there when it was uploaded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5330">TS</a>]
01:28:56 ◼ ► but I couldn't edit around it in a way that didn't suddenly have me talking really slowly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5336">TS</a>]
01:29:01 ◼ ► or where the edit point wasn't just so obvious and awkward so I left it and I knew it was there. I'm amazed by that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5341">TS</a>]
01:29:08 ◼ ► I'm amazed you didn't fix it. Well I'm just from what I know of you. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5348">TS</a>]
01:29:15 ◼ ► For me this is a workflow issue is going back and fixing something like that at that stage is not so easy. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5355">TS</a>]
01:29:24 ◼ ► I mean I've often wanted to do some research into professional voiceover people to know more about how they do their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5364">TS</a>]
01:29:31 ◼ ► jobs because I am really aware that I cannot record things at different times without them sounding incredibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5371">TS</a>]
01:29:39 ◼ ► different. So I had set up all my audio equipment. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5379">TS</a>]
01:29:42 ◼ ► I had done the recording I caught the error later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5382">TS</a>]
01:29:46 ◼ ► and I knew if I'm going to fix this I have to fix the whole I have to redo the whole thing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5386">TS</a>]
01:29:51 ◼ ► You couldn't redo the whole thing so you cut to the sounds that it would have just been a massive mess. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5391">TS</a>]
01:29:56 ◼ ► Yes it was it was mainly an issue I wanted to get it out by when. Today at the latest. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5396">TS</a>]
01:30:02 ◼ ► And I was doing the mental calculation of OK how long is it going to take for me to redo the audio [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5402">TS</a>]
01:30:07 ◼ ► and then re cut it and I figured now I'm not going to get it out on time. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5407">TS</a>]
01:30:10 ◼ ► This is going to push it back just a little bit too much. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5410">TS</a>]
01:30:13 ◼ ► I am willing to take the hit on this error and let it go up which I want to point out. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5413">TS</a>]
01:30:18 ◼ ► Internet I am not a perfectionist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5418">TS</a>]
01:30:20 ◼ ► and I think this is evidence for that fact that I am very happy to make cost benefit decisions along these lines of Is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5420">TS</a>]
01:30:29 ◼ ► and in this case I came down very clearly on the no side of it it wasn't even a debate in my mind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5429">TS</a>]
01:30:35 ◼ ► but I'm not redoing the whole audio just for this this one little thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5435">TS</a>]
01:30:38 ◼ ► but I knew that I was going to have to deal with everybody everybody commenting on it which they did they did in spades. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5438">TS</a>]
01:30:45 ◼ ► I got many e-mails and tweets and comments [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5445">TS</a>]
01:30:48 ◼ ► and thank you everyone for pointing for pointing that out I think the top comment on the right discussion is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5448">TS</a>]
01:30:54 ◼ ► because that's what has assuaged doesn't make you think history done the only you know has a change of mind you stand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5454">TS</a>]
01:31:01 ◼ ► by the decision. Now I know I completely stand by the decision. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5461">TS</a>]
01:31:04 ◼ ► I know that if I if I had done that the video wouldn't be up. Now I would rather have it up sooner than later. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5464">TS</a>]
01:31:10 ◼ ► Yeah because it's also for me it's an issue of impacting the future things that I'm working on because I know full well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5470">TS</a>]
01:31:18 ◼ ► that if I didn't get it up by this week. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5478">TS</a>]
01:31:21 ◼ ► Even though in theory maybe I'm only adding a couple hours to the actual work flow. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5481">TS</a>]
01:31:25 ◼ ► The result would be I would end up spending more time on that video because now I'm mentally thinking well it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5485">TS</a>]
01:31:30 ◼ ► have to be up until the following Monday and I would end up putting more detail into the animation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5490">TS</a>]
01:31:37 ◼ ► and so this was a this was a just cut down on future workload decision which I think was the correct decision [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5497">TS</a>]
01:31:43 ◼ ► and I you know I can't imagine there's anybody out there who thought this video was great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5503">TS</a>]
01:31:47 ◼ ► but that one error just killed it and now I'm not going to share it on Facebook. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5507">TS</a>]
01:31:51 ◼ ► So I mean you must do the same thing there must be times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5511">TS</a>]
01:31:53 ◼ ► when there are things in your video that you know are inconsequential errors and you leave them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5513">TS</a>]
01:31:57 ◼ ► and I mean you're writing also but that might happen. It happened today. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5517">TS</a>]
01:32:02 ◼ ► OK activated I knew it was a number of our video went up today about the friends and strangers there I'm in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5522">TS</a>]
01:32:13 ◼ ► There was a moment where the guy called Simon who's in the video wrote a greater than sign [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5533">TS</a>]
01:32:17 ◼ ► and it should have been a greater than or equal sign [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5537">TS</a>]
01:32:20 ◼ ► and again incorrect it should have been greater than a course it didn't change the meaning of what he did. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5540">TS</a>]
01:32:27 ◼ ► He's ten and a half thousand miles away so we can't really record and I noticed and I discussed it with him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5547">TS</a>]
01:32:36 ◼ ► and he he knew he'd noticed it as well and we just said well it doesn't change anything. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5556">TS</a>]
01:32:41 ◼ ► Anyone who notices anyone he knows it's a mistake. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5561">TS</a>]
01:32:47 ◼ ► Understands what's going on well enough anyway so it's the sort of person who pointed out is a sort of person who's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5567">TS</a>]
01:32:53 ◼ ► going to be misled anyway because they're savvy enough so I left it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5573">TS</a>]
01:32:59 ◼ ► but I did put a note in the in the video description saying it five minutes fifteen way to where it should have been a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5579">TS</a>]
01:33:04 ◼ ► greater than it was and when I uploaded I uploaded it with that comment. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5584">TS</a>]
01:33:08 ◼ ► So I was the top comment it was the upload a top comment so anyone who looks at the comments will say as the top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5588">TS</a>]
01:33:18 ◼ ► If you are you're assuming people read those descriptions you control the descriptions with nonsense nobody reads. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5598">TS</a>]
01:33:23 ◼ ► No no no I don't give a description wouldn't matter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5603">TS</a>]
01:33:26 ◼ ► but I thought taht comment would matter because I think if you're going to write a comment don't you just just like if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5606">TS</a>]
01:33:32 ◼ ► you're going to make your glasses joke on Twitter. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5612">TS</a>]
01:33:35 ◼ ► Nine times out of ten you get a check that no one else is made to check first that you just used. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5615">TS</a>]
01:33:40 ◼ ► You're so filled with the desire to correct somebody else you just scroll past all the other stuff in the comment box [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5620">TS</a>]
01:33:47 ◼ ► comment box become a part of the book the top comes an IP IP in Atlanta. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5627">TS</a>]
01:33:51 ◼ ► I'd be too embarrassed to write a comment on the You Tube video without first checking that there weren't a million [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5631">TS</a>]
01:33:55 ◼ ► other comments the same but other people don't share this reservation. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5635">TS</a>]
01:34:00 ◼ ► But then you then you have to spend time looking through the You Tube comments which is a total train wreck. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5640">TS</a>]
01:34:05 ◼ ► Yes yes yes I would look through all thousand but I'd look at the top one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5645">TS</a>]
01:34:10 ◼ ► and in this case the top one deals exactly with the thing that they're commenting on that's why I made sure it was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5650">TS</a>]
01:34:16 ◼ ► So anyway it doesn't bother me I knew it was going to happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5656">TS</a>]
01:34:20 ◼ ► but in answer to your question sometimes these things happen. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5660">TS</a>]
01:34:23 ◼ ► My reason was more because of we couldn't do it because the guy I filmed is in Australia now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5663">TS</a>]
01:34:29 ◼ ► but even I just had a look at the place to leave a comment on You Tube is above the top comments that someone could not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5669">TS</a>]
01:34:37 ◼ ► even see the top comments when they're when they're writing to creatures of course. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5677">TS</a>]
01:34:42 ◼ ► Well I certainly hope they're not saying it. I hope that's true. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5682">TS</a>]
01:34:46 ◼ ► Even more disappointing if we are looking at the top comment saying a perfectly logical explanation for not letting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5686">TS</a>]
01:34:52 ◼ ► them a stake in what happened and why has it been fixed and then just blindly wrote you made this mistake. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5692">TS</a>]
01:34:59 ◼ ► I'm I hope they're not looking at what they want to really rub it of that I felt that he had more faith in humanity. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5699">TS</a>]
01:35:05 ◼ ► If they are saying the comment and still writing that is astonishing to me that people write these comments [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5705">TS</a>]
01:35:12 ◼ ► and it just shows how much of Internet commenting is just people talking into the void doesn't because all of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5712">TS</a>]
01:35:20 ◼ ► people who are writing comments expecting people to read them and even reading comments themselves. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5720">TS</a>]
01:35:26 ◼ ► Well I think they should take that as a lesson that he only sees already the coming. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5726">TS</a>]
01:35:31 ◼ ► Yeah this is a bit on our topic list for a while as to some time to do a episode about common forms that this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5731">TS</a>]
01:35:42 ◼ ► Now I should even mention now because people are going to imagine the most perfect hello internet episode ever about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5742">TS</a>]
01:35:46 ◼ ► that but yes I think that it least on You Tube You Tube is structurally set up so that you are yelling into the void. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5746">TS</a>]
01:35:56 ◼ ► Obviously comments are not like that everywhere but the structure of Youtube just made. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5756">TS</a>]
01:36:00 ◼ ► So when you are here I really have a mental image of opening a room opening a door to a room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5760">TS</a>]
01:36:07 ◼ ► and there's thousands of voices already in that room screaming and then you just yell your comment in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5767">TS</a>]
01:36:12 ◼ ► and close the door that is I would be the real world equivalent of contributing to this discussion. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5772">TS</a>]
01:36:21 ◼ ► Sorry You Tube engineers who work on the comment system you know that I have met some of you I know it might not be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5781">TS</a>]
01:36:26 ◼ ► your fault but that comment system is just a total disaster and I'm never going to not harp on it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5786">TS</a>]
01:36:32 ◼ ► Speaking of comments I know that you know that you do love comments his read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5792">TS</a>]
01:36:37 ◼ ► and there has been some discussion in the wake of your family tree video which was which was quite interesting which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5797">TS</a>]
01:36:48 ◼ ► Your new video prompted someone to think about the end of their their family tree in terms of that the name. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5808">TS</a>]
01:36:54 ◼ ► Obviously there are certain configurations that will result in a male name being passed on the more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5814">TS</a>]
01:37:00 ◼ ► and you know the gray name would continue because I haven't had children and my brother has been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5820">TS</a>]
01:37:05 ◼ ► and this person was feeling quite sad about the idea that maybe their name was about to hit a dead end. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5825">TS</a>]
01:37:10 ◼ ► Their surname and I think you were winding them up a bit you will say you weren't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5830">TS</a>]
01:37:17 ◼ ► but your responses were very deliberately coded robotic saying well why do you care about your name. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5837">TS</a>]
01:37:25 ◼ ► Well you are winding them up a bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5845">TS</a>]
01:37:28 ◼ ► but is this really do you really not understand why someone would be sad that their name would come to an end. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5848">TS</a>]
01:37:34 ◼ ► I get what with two things about this show if I can find that common first well I will genuinely say that I was I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5854">TS</a>]
01:37:43 ◼ ► I know that you will believe that people on the Internet might not believe that but I really wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5863">TS</a>]
01:37:48 ◼ ► and it is partly just a side effect of the day that video was released I had only slept two hours I was up all night [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5868">TS</a>]
01:37:57 ◼ ► animating it I went to sleep very briefly. And then got up and finished working out in the morning and uploaded it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5877">TS</a>]
01:38:02 ◼ ► And even even at my best on video release days I tend to be pretty brief in the comments partly because of just so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5882">TS</a>]
01:38:09 ◼ ► comments coming along that I do. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5889">TS</a>]
01:38:16 ◼ ► but I'm much less likely to write long comments comments on video released so I think that that's partly why I come off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5896">TS</a>]
01:38:22 ◼ ► as very brusque in that thread but I'm not trying to one person up. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5902">TS</a>]
01:38:26 ◼ ► but what we're about to discuss here is a particular example of something that I would say happens in my life quite a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5906">TS</a>]
01:38:35 ◼ ► which is someone will discuss with me something that that they had a purpose that that there may be that they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5915">TS</a>]
01:38:47 ◼ ► like like some sort of problem like this person saying oh it makes him sad to think about his his family name dying out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5927">TS</a>]
01:38:52 ◼ ► so he will discuss with me something in their life that they that they that is making them sad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5932">TS</a>]
01:38:57 ◼ ► and I'm trying to convince them that the thing that's making them sad shouldn't make them sad in the first place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5937">TS</a>]
01:39:05 ◼ ► and then that generally just transitions them to sadness. Now mixed with anger is usually the response that I get. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5945">TS</a>]
01:39:14 ◼ ► And I can kind of understand why this happens but I also Chen you really find it is sometimes kind of baffling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5954">TS</a>]
01:39:20 ◼ ► and confusing and that's not what the Cubans were grey I don't know how humans work. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5960">TS</a>]
01:39:28 ◼ ► This is this is so I would say this is a problem I have with the discussion. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5968">TS</a>]
01:39:31 ◼ ► I would I would like you to try to explain to me now why is it that not everybody but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5971">TS</a>]
01:39:39 ◼ ► but some people are concerned with the notion that a hundred years from now there are people who have their name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5979">TS</a>]
01:39:49 ◼ ► descendant from them walking around the world. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5989">TS</a>]
01:39:52 ◼ ► I don't I don't know when we talk about that before we talk about that let's talk to you about how humans work. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/5992">TS</a>]
01:40:00 ◼ ► OK Many times when people tell you their problems they do not want you to solve their problems. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6000">TS</a>]
01:40:09 ◼ ► Why they tell me their problems. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6009">TS</a>]
01:40:11 ◼ ► Because they want empathy because they want to share their problems they want to unload it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6011">TS</a>]
01:40:17 ◼ ► They want someone another human to tell them things are OK They don't want them to invalidate their feelings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6017">TS</a>]
01:40:23 ◼ ► and tell them you're wrong to think that not only like like if your wife comes comes home from work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6023">TS</a>]
01:40:36 ◼ ► This is general advice not to talk to your wife because you know what's different of Sacre she chose to marry a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6036">TS</a>]
01:40:44 ◼ ► Life is lightly done there but generally if your wife comes home from work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6044">TS</a>]
01:40:49 ◼ ► and says I'm having these problems at work I had a terrible day. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6049">TS</a>]
01:40:52 ◼ ► My boss wasn't my boss wasn't nice or clients weren't nice or something went wrong and. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6052">TS</a>]
01:40:58 ◼ ► They don't want you to sit there and say Well tomorrow this is your strategy. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6058">TS</a>]
01:41:02 ◼ ► You've got to go into the room and tell the people this and then you go to report that and you got to fix this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6062">TS</a>]
01:41:08 ◼ ► and you got it. They don't want that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6068">TS</a>]
01:41:10 ◼ ► They just want you to put around and make them a competent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6070">TS</a>]
01:41:13 ◼ ► and say wow you had a really rubbish day I feel really sorry for a while. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6073">TS</a>]
01:41:18 ◼ ► Life is tough but I'm here and I carefully they don't want you to sit and likewise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6078">TS</a>]
01:41:25 ◼ ► when someone says I'm feeling a bit sad about my name coming to an end. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6085">TS</a>]
01:41:30 ◼ ► I don't think they necessarily want a robot to reply to them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6090">TS</a>]
01:41:34 ◼ ► and say well what you're feeling is completely irrational there's no logic to it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6094">TS</a>]
01:41:39 ◼ ► You're wrong to feel sad your sadness is invalid. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6099">TS</a>]
01:41:42 ◼ ► And this is why that's not what humans want when they fled their homes. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6102">TS</a>]
01:41:46 ◼ ► But if I could convince that guy that there was no reason to be sad about this he would be better he would be happier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6106">TS</a>]
01:41:53 ◼ ► if he realized Oh that is irrational to think I that's OK This is not a problem anymore. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6113">TS</a>]
01:42:00 ◼ ► No I have where people like this is not convincing to you. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6120">TS</a>]
01:42:04 ◼ ► No course you know the saying What if we will all computers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6124">TS</a>]
01:42:09 ◼ ► and I don't I don't I know I don't think I have it I don't mind the robot job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6129">TS</a>]
01:42:14 ◼ ► but I feel like this is this is a general there have been cases in my life where I have been discussing problems with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6134">TS</a>]
01:42:20 ◼ ► people I'm almost always looking for feedback and I'm very happy when people have some kind of solution. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6140">TS</a>]
01:42:25 ◼ ► That's great that that's enough I have a problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6145">TS</a>]
01:42:28 ◼ ► and someone has a solution please believe Jared to me Don't put your arm around me and go up so sorry for you I. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6148">TS</a>]
01:42:35 ◼ ► I empathize with you you know I like you do you have a solution to my problem I would love to I have experiences this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6155">TS</a>]
01:42:41 ◼ ► I've had this catastrophe with my will hang on I'm not going to say catastrophe because two weeks ago I was you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6161">TS</a>]
01:42:50 ◼ ► and someone else had the surgery so this mean serious stuff going on so I'm not going to describe computer problems as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6170">TS</a>]
01:42:55 ◼ ► a catastrophe because they know that I had substantial problems with my computer and hard drive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6175">TS</a>]
01:43:02 ◼ ► and it looks like I've lost a lot of data with them. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6182">TS</a>]
01:43:07 ◼ ► Hopefully what needs what needs to be backed up is backed up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6187">TS</a>]
01:43:11 ◼ ► but there was so much stuff that it wasn't even feasible to back some of the stuff I'm talking terabytes upon terabytes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6191">TS</a>]
01:43:17 ◼ ► of archive now looks like it's gone. I've had to have a winch on Twitter about it a couple of times saying oh dear. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6197">TS</a>]
01:43:25 ◼ ► What I want is either a so is I think I would like someone to say there is a solution you can recover. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6205">TS</a>]
01:43:36 ◼ ► but also I don't mind people saying oh poor Brady that's really bad feeling for a man to get your data back I hope it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6216">TS</a>]
01:43:43 ◼ ► works out I don't want people telling me you should have this is what you should have done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6223">TS</a>]
01:43:48 ◼ ► or this is you know get back stuff up but no no listen listen to this one a bit of a around you and well life is tough. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6228">TS</a>]
01:43:56 ◼ ► It's I have to interrupt you here for two things first of all one you talk. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6236">TS</a>]
01:44:00 ◼ ► About your computer problems I believe I have said many times like wow that really set you great. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6240">TS</a>]
01:44:05 ◼ ► Yeah that's right and that's what you should always do. Yeah. Yes but can I tell you why I did it in the circumstances. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6245">TS</a>]
01:44:11 ◼ ► Because me telling you. Oh you should have backed up your data. That's just me being a jerk right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6251">TS</a>]
01:44:16 ◼ ► Oh if you had a time machine you could go back in time if I could. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6256">TS</a>]
01:44:20 ◼ ► Yeah great but you know what that's not where we are right now where we are is that you've lost all the data [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6260">TS</a>]
01:44:25 ◼ ► and you know what the loss of data is tremendously sad. There's no recovering from that is gone forever. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6265">TS</a>]
01:44:31 ◼ ► And me telling you what you should have done in the past is pointless totally pointless. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6271">TS</a>]
01:44:37 ◼ ► Nothing nothing to be done there. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6277">TS</a>]
01:44:38 ◼ ► So I expressed a loss you know I like sadness over the loss of so I did this is the right thing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6278">TS</a>]
01:44:45 ◼ ► This is not the situation that we're describing right now but he currently has a problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6285">TS</a>]
01:44:49 ◼ ► and is a solution to that problem and they don't want me to tell them the solution they instead want me to go on. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6289">TS</a>]
01:44:56 ◼ ► Now that's two those are two totally different unrelated I think I think they are different I don't know that is really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6296">TS</a>]
01:45:04 ◼ ► I think they really defy thing going to really you know I think there are threads here I think there are threads here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6304">TS</a>]
01:45:10 ◼ ► and lessons that connect to you but you're right they are very different for the way she explained. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6310">TS</a>]
01:45:14 ◼ ► Yes thank you let's come back to the one you slammed. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6314">TS</a>]
01:45:20 ◼ ► I'm clearly I've had my say about how I think sometimes people should be dealt with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6320">TS</a>]
01:45:27 ◼ ► when they express things that make them sad. Let's come to the actual facts of the matter. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6327">TS</a>]
01:45:33 ◼ ► Yes And this is this is now like problems. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6333">TS</a>]
01:45:36 ◼ ► Yeah there's a time out there their family name dying out despair to come to anybody else to care and carry on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6336">TS</a>]
01:45:46 ◼ ► but I think it's a shame and I completely empathize with what they're saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6346">TS</a>]
01:45:49 ◼ ► and I think telling him that his name is just a construct of sounds and language attached to it. Alina. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6349">TS</a>]
01:46:00 ◼ ► Each of fleshy watery bodies that are reproducing overtime I don't begrudge none of them around her son. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6360">TS</a>]
01:46:07 ◼ ► But this is I think. OK you tell me you tell me the rational you tell me what he should be said. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6367">TS</a>]
01:46:14 ◼ ► Well here again we're touching upon like a sensitive issue here which is two different things. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6374">TS</a>]
01:46:20 ◼ ► If somebody wants to have children and is unable to have children for whatever reason that's a huge tragedy. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6380">TS</a>]
01:46:27 ◼ ► That is that's just very sad. Yes yes of course and it's why if you want to talk about you know like pet peeves. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6387">TS</a>]
01:46:36 ◼ ► One of the pet peeves that I find totally unbelievable is that it is socially acceptable to ask a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6396">TS</a>]
01:46:44 ◼ ► when they're going to have children. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6404">TS</a>]
01:46:46 ◼ ► That infuriates me to no end because it's like such a personal issue and people have fertility problems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6406">TS</a>]
01:46:53 ◼ ► and there are couples who want to have children and if they're trying to have children [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6413">TS</a>]
01:46:57 ◼ ► and not able to like that's such a huge sore spots of the very notion that it is socially acceptable to to ask people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6417">TS</a>]
01:47:04 ◼ ► when they're going to have children. I just I cannot believe the people. Yes I find that just infuriating. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6424">TS</a>]
01:47:10 ◼ ► YANG It's so rude to do that. Making me angry even just ignorant. I'm on board with yeah so. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6430">TS</a>]
01:47:17 ◼ ► So like that is a totally different issue. Yet that was not the conversation we're having. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6437">TS</a>]
01:47:22 ◼ ► No no no no that is not that's far from the conversation. Yeah so so that that's a very different issue. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6442">TS</a>]
01:47:27 ◼ ► The idea people were literally having a conversation of people talking about hundreds of years in the future there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6447">TS</a>]
01:47:34 ◼ ► not going to be anyone who's descendant from this person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6454">TS</a>]
01:47:38 ◼ ► or the name is going to die out there was there was another sort of sub thread about in about I think this guy has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6458">TS</a>]
01:47:44 ◼ ► daughters who will have children presumably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6464">TS</a>]
01:47:47 ◼ ► but he's not going to have a son you know he's not going to have a son to carry our name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6467">TS</a>]
01:47:52 ◼ ► and I find that just just like I just I don't even understand what the person wants or and so there's. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6472">TS</a>]
01:48:00 ◼ ► There's a line here in the conversation where I'm trying to I'm trying to ask [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6480">TS</a>]
01:48:04 ◼ ► and get it clarified it's like I don't understand why people care about the name in particular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6484">TS</a>]
01:48:10 ◼ ► and the response was you know it has to do with tradition and legacy and family values. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6490">TS</a>]
01:48:20 ◼ ► A name is is not just a word with a response and I say it's a symbol it's a symbol but surely traditions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6500">TS</a>]
01:48:30 ◼ ► and legacies and family values those have to do with the people I think maybe your living daughters and their families. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6510">TS</a>]
01:48:37 ◼ ► What is this what does the name have to do with this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6517">TS</a>]
01:48:41 ◼ ► This thing at all if that's cool if there are of course that's true but it's still really sad if someone goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6521">TS</a>]
01:48:47 ◼ ► and if someone went and I was going to say the Vatican but I went to that's a bad example [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6527">TS</a>]
01:48:51 ◼ ► but if someone goes he smashes down an old church you know the church is the people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6531">TS</a>]
01:48:57 ◼ ► and the people could build a new building and still come together and have that community [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6537">TS</a>]
01:49:01 ◼ ► but it still said that this five hundred year old building has gone because it was a symbol of what came before. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6541">TS</a>]
01:49:08 ◼ ► Also terrible analogy that active destruction of. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6548">TS</a>]
01:49:12 ◼ ► Something like I think it was a destructive if if if it just fell down from old age [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6552">TS</a>]
01:49:18 ◼ ► or it had to those you know it went for natural reasons. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6558">TS</a>]
01:49:23 ◼ ► A sinkhole opened up in the ground and it sank into the ground. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6563">TS</a>]
01:49:26 ◼ ► Whatever whatever the reasons there's nothing wrong with symbols like and people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6566">TS</a>]
01:49:31 ◼ ► and it's sad to see the end of if you're watching a film of some and walking across the desert [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6571">TS</a>]
01:49:35 ◼ ► and it gets to the other side of the desert [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6575">TS</a>]
01:49:37 ◼ ► and then right at the very end of its journey a rock falls on gets squashed. You can say Oh well it was just an ant or. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6577">TS</a>]
01:49:44 ◼ ► Well there are other ants but it stew said when you've seen something go for a long time and do carry on. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6584">TS</a>]
01:49:52 ◼ ► There's like an attachment you were giving me nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6592">TS</a>]
01:49:55 ◼ ► but examples that I agree with that I think are all irrelevant to that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6595">TS</a>]
01:50:00 ◼ ► Question about the family names like the death of the death of a living creature. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6600">TS</a>]
01:50:03 ◼ ► Yeah I'm agreeing that sad I watch that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6603">TS</a>]
01:50:06 ◼ ► and they all want to see what I'm saying is attach those emotions to the symbol that is a name. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6606">TS</a>]
01:50:14 ◼ ► Because that's what this person's doing. I know that's what they're doing. I can't understand I can't understand why. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6614">TS</a>]
01:50:23 ◼ ► I mean here's here's here's the here's the deal you know you understand symbolism this if this person who wrote that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6623">TS</a>]
01:50:29 ◼ ► read a comment was taking the position that I don't care what happens to the rest of my family [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6629">TS</a>]
01:50:34 ◼ ► and if they all have horrible diseases and end up in jail I don't care as long as they have my name. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6634">TS</a>]
01:50:39 ◼ ► I'm happy if that was their position then. Then your analogy works and I agree. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6639">TS</a>]
01:50:45 ◼ ► And I'm saying well hey man you're putting a bit too much emphasis on the name here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6645">TS</a>]
01:50:49 ◼ ► but I don't think that's what they're doing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6649">TS</a>]
01:50:50 ◼ ► I think I think they have got things in a bit of context I think that has to be sad that a symbol that has been going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6650">TS</a>]
01:50:57 ◼ ► for a very very long time because of a series of events and coincidences or happenings that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6657">TS</a>]
01:51:04 ◼ ► and I don't know about that symbol is about to come to an end. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6664">TS</a>]
01:51:07 ◼ ► And and there's nothing wrong with mourning that loss and feeling a bit sad about it and I'm not saying I should go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6667">TS</a>]
01:51:14 ◼ ► and jump off the Golden Gate Bridge that was unreasonable that I think it's perfectly valid to mourn the passing of. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6674">TS</a>]
01:51:26 ◼ ► An old tradition but you know I'm like that I like old traditions I like old stuff it is just a name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6686">TS</a>]
01:51:34 ◼ ► but it is a symbol and it's a powerful symbol it's not just a trinket. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6694">TS</a>]
01:51:38 ◼ ► This isn't just a little little Eiffel Tower souvenir and I name it name is a very powerful symbol [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6698">TS</a>]
01:51:46 ◼ ► and therefore it through any other name would smell as sweet BRADY You know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6706">TS</a>]
01:51:51 ◼ ► and I'm sure that person hopes that their descendants you know honors their daughters go on to do great. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6711">TS</a>]
01:52:00 ◼ ► Things and their daughters daughters and sons and all those people. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6720">TS</a>]
01:52:04 ◼ ► I hope that that person is not you know just completely you know to satiating them so from their family because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6724">TS</a>]
01:52:12 ◼ ► names are continuing. But I still completely understands that little bit a little twinge of sadness. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6732">TS</a>]
01:52:17 ◼ ► There's been this long line of that name for however long. And it's and it's coming to an end. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6737">TS</a>]
01:52:22 ◼ ► You know that's just that's the world kicks spinning but there's nothing wrong with being sad about. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6742">TS</a>]
01:52:29 ◼ ► I completely understand what that person saying I understand what you're saying to you know this is your you're you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6749">TS</a>]
01:52:38 ◼ ► pretty cold you're pretty coldly rational about these things. You don't you're not sentimental. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6758">TS</a>]
01:52:45 ◼ ► But I guess there are going to mentor people or I you know I still I feel like I have a hard time understanding. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6765">TS</a>]
01:52:52 ◼ ► So I have a hard time understanding that the position and I know I know you don't. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6772">TS</a>]
01:52:58 ◼ ► It's just a sentimental attachment to something that's been in the family for a very long time. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6778">TS</a>]
01:53:03 ◼ ► That's about to not be in the family anymore. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6783">TS</a>]
01:53:07 ◼ ► That's it's losing it's losing it's losing and no nice thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6787">TS</a>]
01:53:12 ◼ ► and I know that you don't want things it's like it was some watch that had been in the family so I was I was just I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6792">TS</a>]
01:53:17 ◼ ► just as I use that as a as a counter-example because that that is a case where I have I have no space in my heart for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6797">TS</a>]
01:53:25 ◼ ► hand me downs of my own personal life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6805">TS</a>]
01:53:27 ◼ ► but I can go there I can intuitively understand why other people place value on objects that have been in the family [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6807">TS</a>]
01:53:35 ◼ ► and I can get that you know you know you pass down your you know great grandmother's engagement ring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6815">TS</a>]
01:53:41 ◼ ► and you know names and file names of very very powerful to us. C.D.P. Gray owner of C.D.P. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6821">TS</a>]
01:53:49 ◼ ► Gray You Tube channel now you have a very pet names of powerful things that we that we are very attached to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6829">TS</a>]
01:53:56 ◼ ► and very much part of us and I can understand the sadness. At losing one. What you say makes sense to me. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6836">TS</a>]
01:54:10 ◼ ► But you're not taking sentimental you're not taking sentimentality into account enough. There's no right or wrong here. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6850">TS</a>]
01:54:27 ◼ ► Well I mean I still think I'm right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6867">TS</a>]
01:54:30 ◼ ► OK Not that I'm not I'm not going to lie but that's because you are right but you're also the other guy's rut. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6870">TS</a>]
01:54:39 ◼ ► Did you know that this is you can't both be right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6879">TS</a>]
01:54:45 ◼ ► Yeah I don't know I don't like it that I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6885">TS</a>]
01:54:47 ◼ ► and I can understand I can understand the physical objects thing even though I personally don't feel that I can see why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6887">TS</a>]
01:54:52 ◼ ► do other people feel that it's then the name thing I don't know it's strikes me strikes me as especially weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6892">TS</a>]
01:54:59 ◼ ► when that weird but not understandable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6899">TS</a>]
01:55:02 ◼ ► when somebody has a family they think they already have children it's just that by the conventions of the world that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6902">TS</a>]
01:55:10 ◼ ► live in. Males pass along the names and they get married and females don't. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6910">TS</a>]
01:55:15 ◼ ► I get that I can totally understand it this is wrapped up in the question of do you have children [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6915">TS</a>]
01:55:21 ◼ ► and well those children have children. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6921">TS</a>]
01:55:23 ◼ ► That's completely understandable but like oh I have children [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6923">TS</a>]
01:55:26 ◼ ► but they're not going to pass on the name that makes me sad is I don't know I feel it will become comes around this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6926">TS</a>]
01:55:32 ◼ ► becomes about you know first world problems relative typing to doesn't like this persons complaining on Reddit you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6932">TS</a>]
01:55:40 ◼ ► to you who yes it got good luck already a terrible decision [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6940">TS</a>]
01:55:44 ◼ ► but you know everyone everyone here where shaming has a good life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6944">TS</a>]
01:55:48 ◼ ► and everything's OK If this guy was wandering around the plains of West Africa to people who were dying of starvation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6948">TS</a>]
01:55:54 ◼ ► and and asking for their sympathy because his name was coming to an end I would. I would say one thing about me. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6954">TS</a>]
01:56:01 ◼ ► It's not a big deal but you know so I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6961">TS</a>]
01:56:05 ◼ ► but I'm sure he would recognize that as well yeah yeah all the other things I worry about in my daily life I think I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6965">TS</a>]
01:56:12 ◼ ► would not be worrying about them if my life was about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6972">TS</a>]
01:56:14 ◼ ► and so I likewise comparing comparing his mourning of a name to people who haven't got you know progeny who would like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6974">TS</a>]
01:56:24 ◼ ► to have progeny. Well that's a different discussion. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6984">TS</a>]
01:56:29 ◼ ► And I don't think he would and I think he or she is doing now but it's a good fun discussion. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6989">TS</a>]
01:56:36 ◼ ► It's interesting you know. It's a strange it's a strange thing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/6996">TS</a>]
01:56:43 ◼ ► I mean I don't think we'll ever have a podcast about this but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/7003">TS</a>]
01:56:47 ◼ ► when I hear you talk about you know the significance of names [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/7007">TS</a>]
01:56:50 ◼ ► and things it does make me wonder about what you think about like you know the deeper deeper meaning of life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/7010">TS</a>]
01:56:57 ◼ ► and legacy and what we leave behind and do we worry about that and what happens next. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMXKSIsg/7017">TS</a>]