00:00:00 ◼ ► You are sick and I am just exhausted and amount of coffee that I need more. Let me ask you this let me ask you this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/0">TS</a>]
00:00:08 ◼ ► I just want to clear something up here because you're like one of my American friends taught element thirteen on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/8">TS</a>]
00:00:14 ◼ ► periodic table. Symbol I Al I was that you don't need some of the symbol element there is aluminum aluminium. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/14">TS</a>]
00:00:27 ◼ ► Are you really going to start this argument I really didn't start so I want to know what you know the funny thing is I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/27">TS</a>]
00:00:32 ◼ ► need to pull I need to pull up some google stuff. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/32">TS</a>]
00:00:34 ◼ ► Right now I go out and I know you don't need to know I know I do I certainly do. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/34">TS</a>]
00:00:38 ◼ ► You keep talking I'm going to do a little little lot of research right now I am a I am across this issue I actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/38">TS</a>]
00:00:46 ◼ ► thought you were going to be the minium camp on this. Why on earth would you think that I don't know I just flew. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/46">TS</a>]
00:00:54 ◼ ► That's what I thought I thought and I know a lot of Americans say aluminum. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/54">TS</a>]
00:00:59 ◼ ► I thought you were going to unless one thought would happen. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/59">TS</a>]
00:01:03 ◼ ► But now you go to live in and tell me your live research or your position [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/63">TS</a>]
00:01:08 ◼ ► or whatever I'm just I'm trying to find out because I thought that there was some chemistry organization that didn't of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/68">TS</a>]
00:01:16 ◼ ► the charge of the pronunciation I pack the older Union blood chemistry this is you're talking to the guy that makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/76">TS</a>]
00:01:24 ◼ ► period of videos man five you pack Sunny's I'm not ready that's all right then you try to pull it up here because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/84">TS</a>]
00:01:31 ◼ ► couldn't remember which way they went on that it was ninety ninety that they basically said it's Alan minium that will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/91">TS</a>]
00:01:39 ◼ ► do and they also went change the spelling on cesium and sofa [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/99">TS</a>]
00:01:45 ◼ ► and there was this kind of I think it was bit of a deal where they when I gave one to the Americans [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/105">TS</a>]
00:01:49 ◼ ► and the Americans gave some to the Europeans and the Europeans did the right thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/109">TS</a>]
00:01:54 ◼ ► and took on the American side of the do when the Americans just that now they can go in. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/114">TS</a>]
00:02:00 ◼ ► If you don't care and if two or three years later you pack folded like a deck of cards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/120">TS</a>]
00:02:06 ◼ ► and said OK you could have both Alad minium is still the first preference it still have a Russia on their official [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/126">TS</a>]
00:02:13 ◼ ► but I have a little footnote saying some people also say aluminium meaning Americans who've been a done deal that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/133">TS</a>]
00:02:20 ◼ ► that the passive aggressive some people we can beat is sometimes very good at the at the super passive aggressive way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/140">TS</a>]
00:02:26 ◼ ► of phrasing something they're like oh we're neutral. We're just passively aggressively neutral. I'm looking at. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/146">TS</a>]
00:02:32 ◼ ► I thought there was something more recent than that but I'm going to I'm going to take your word for it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/152">TS</a>]
00:02:36 ◼ ► Well it's Alan many and we can period it videos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/156">TS</a>]
00:02:38 ◼ ► and millions of videos about them so I don't think they're throwing a spanner in my works now. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/158">TS</a>]
00:02:43 ◼ ► Well I don't know if this makes you feel better or if it makes you feel worse but when I taught here in the U.K. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/163">TS</a>]
00:02:51 ◼ ► I would never say aluminum because it was just far too distracting for the students to hear apparently what is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/171">TS</a>]
00:02:57 ◼ ► hilarious American pronunciation so I would say aluminium and never a comment so. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/177">TS</a>]
00:03:05 ◼ ► I had opted out while I was here teaching but if I'm to sing at normal speech it's going to be aluminum. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/185">TS</a>]
00:03:11 ◼ ► You did have a little mana victory though in my house today. Oh yeah because you have mice. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/191">TS</a>]
00:03:16 ◼ ► My sister has started listening to all the hello internets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/196">TS</a>]
00:03:20 ◼ ► and she's really into it which was surprising because I'm sure she doesn't watch my videos or anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/200">TS</a>]
00:03:26 ◼ ► but anyway she started listening. She says she enjoys it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/206">TS</a>]
00:03:29 ◼ ► So we're having a chat and then I said oh I've got something else I want to show you who are talking on Skype [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/209">TS</a>]
00:03:36 ◼ ► and got this periodic table that has just been sent to me by my high school chemistry teacher from Australia [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/216">TS</a>]
00:03:42 ◼ ► and it was the periodic table that was up on the wall of my classroom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/222">TS</a>]
00:03:46 ◼ ► when I was a student like inspired my interest in chemistry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/226">TS</a>]
00:03:49 ◼ ► and it's a huge huge old you know outdated dusty old thing but you know it's a great piece of memorabilia [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/229">TS</a>]
00:03:56 ◼ ► and I pulled it out and said Look at this look what's been said to me really proudly. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/236">TS</a>]
00:04:00 ◼ ► And she just went more rubbish more saluted then that's great. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/240">TS</a>]
00:04:06 ◼ ► She was she was which is ridiculous because her house is full of stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/246">TS</a>]
00:04:10 ◼ ► but anyway she was on your side there saying I like that she called it your monthly and that is great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/250">TS</a>]
00:04:18 ◼ ► Could we ballpark your age based on how many elements are on the periodic table I don't know the rate at which elements [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/258">TS</a>]
00:04:25 ◼ ► have been discovered over the past several decades. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/265">TS</a>]
00:04:27 ◼ ► But where does the periodic table stop you must have it framed somewhere by now and I know it's next to my desk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/267">TS</a>]
00:04:33 ◼ ► and wrote up Hang on let me see if I can unroll a boy. Yeah. It's massive This is actually what you have today. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/273">TS</a>]
00:04:44 ◼ ► We need a picture of this for the show notes in the future. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/284">TS</a>]
00:04:46 ◼ ► Yeah I actually made a video about it because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/286">TS</a>]
00:04:49 ◼ ► when I went to Australia it was still left in the class it was still up in the classroom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/289">TS</a>]
00:04:53 ◼ ► and I went there with a professor from parody videos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/293">TS</a>]
00:04:55 ◼ ► and we said look this is the periodic table that inspired the website and the videos and it was over a lovely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/295">TS</a>]
00:05:00 ◼ ► and now all this time later he's actually sent it to me so I was hoping I'd keep it up there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/300">TS</a>]
00:05:05 ◼ ► and maybe put like one of those little blue plaques underneath it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/305">TS</a>]
00:05:08 ◼ ► and say oh yeah well you haven't went to scope stuff that I've basically gotten rid of it dumped on me. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/308">TS</a>]
00:05:13 ◼ ► That's exactly it. They knew who it accepted gratefully. Well element one hundred four is not even named here. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/313">TS</a>]
00:05:19 ◼ ► Say oh wow OK. OK I can remember is it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/319">TS</a>]
00:05:27 ◼ ► Shoot Finian something like phone ins an am but you'll probably end it with you and because you're American. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/327">TS</a>]
00:05:38 ◼ ► Anyway they are more tech to my house so it has a hundred for about one hundred four is not named. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/338">TS</a>]
00:05:45 ◼ ► Yeah right still got the letter naming convention year so it actually stops it stops at one hundred six hundred six. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/345">TS</a>]
00:05:58 ◼ ► No Nexium it's got to us. As well say if you want to know the year over year it's rough thirty forty M. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/358">TS</a>]
00:06:06 ◼ ► I cannot believe I couldn't remember that that is disappointing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/366">TS</a>]
00:06:11 ◼ ► Why are you disappointed I would've thought you'd be really into the periodic table. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/371">TS</a>]
00:06:15 ◼ ► OK I will tell you yet another story of me just being a terrible person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/375">TS</a>]
00:06:19 ◼ ► and I guess which goes along with this I had a I had a friend in college who I was I was somewhat competitive with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/379">TS</a>]
00:06:27 ◼ ► and she was a chemistry major and I was a physics major and simply to irritate her. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/387">TS</a>]
00:06:34 ◼ ► I memorized all of the names of all of the elements and their atomic number and their positions in the periodic table. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/394">TS</a>]
00:06:42 ◼ ► I was trying to drive home of course like a physics major would the point that all chemistry is just stamp collecting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/402">TS</a>]
00:06:48 ◼ ► like I can spend a few days and memorize this thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/408">TS</a>]
00:06:50 ◼ ► and it's all I basically know all there is to know about your subject [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/410">TS</a>]
00:06:53 ◼ ► but I have a have a whole flash card system that I keep up to date I always like to put the facts and things in it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/413">TS</a>]
00:07:00 ◼ ► and that periodic table the information is still in my flash card system to this day so I can usually not as well as I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/420">TS</a>]
00:07:09 ◼ ► but I can usually know the name of an element given the atomic number of the element did you watch do you watch the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/429">TS</a>]
00:07:15 ◼ ► T.V. Show. Point less do you not. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/435">TS</a>]
00:07:19 ◼ ► It's that I won't bore you with the details of the show but the idea of the show is to know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/439">TS</a>]
00:07:24 ◼ ► So as to questions to which there are multiple answers like elements on the periodic table. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/444">TS</a>]
00:07:29 ◼ ► But to pick the most obscure possible answer. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/449">TS</a>]
00:07:33 ◼ ► So the idea is to is not just to get a ride but to get it right in a way that no one else would get it right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/453">TS</a>]
00:07:38 ◼ ► and I do a poll of a hundred people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/458">TS</a>]
00:07:39 ◼ ► and that you've got to find the answer that no one else said which is still correct is like reverse Stanley if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/459">TS</a>]
00:07:47 ◼ ► don't entirely understand it. Yeah yeah yeah that's actually that's not a bad way to put it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/467">TS</a>]
00:07:51 ◼ ► but this one has to be factually correct as OK you want the answer that is factually correct that the fewest number of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/471">TS</a>]
00:08:00 ◼ ► No one gave it the answer is considered pointless and that's like that's like you know that's a huge. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/480">TS</a>]
00:08:06 ◼ ► OK So that's the big win. Nobody else said it is but it is still correct OK. Yeah that's interesting. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/486">TS</a>]
00:08:13 ◼ ► So to give you an example that was just on the other day I was watching it the other day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/493">TS</a>]
00:08:16 ◼ ► and I wasn't doing very well but then sort of the grand finale for the big jackpot. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/496">TS</a>]
00:08:22 ◼ ► They had five areas they could choose between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/502">TS</a>]
00:08:25 ◼ ► and one of them was chemistry one of the women on the show I really fancied as a bit of a science expert [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/505">TS</a>]
00:08:31 ◼ ► and had been talking a self up is this real science carries through the show. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/511">TS</a>]
00:08:35 ◼ ► So she said we're going to do chemistry but with supreme confidence. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/515">TS</a>]
00:08:41 ◼ ► and then the question was name an element on the periodic table for which its symbol is also the first two letters of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/521">TS</a>]
00:08:51 ◼ ► the elements nine which is a you know OK OK second for my brain to parse. Yeah yeah I say like helium right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/531">TS</a>]
00:09:00 ◼ ► Ha and it's that's also the first two letters of helium. Right so you know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/540">TS</a>]
00:09:06 ◼ ► Yeah yeah so I mean there are quite a few of them. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/546">TS</a>]
00:09:10 ◼ ► So the idea was to come up with one that you know no one else would think of as well run as a green on there that's my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/550">TS</a>]
00:09:16 ◼ ► that's the fastest one I can come up with the probably the fewest number of people would guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/556">TS</a>]
00:09:20 ◼ ► and I think I can remember what ones I was fancy anyway so I was reeling off a whole bunch that I thought were likely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/560">TS</a>]
00:09:28 ◼ ► and then how to start it and she was led to name three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/568">TS</a>]
00:09:32 ◼ ► and one of them had to be completely pointless to win the jackpot. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/572">TS</a>]
00:09:35 ◼ ► Had to be no one else had said it so I thought I K Let's say let's see what she names [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/575">TS</a>]
00:09:40 ◼ ► and the ones she named were plutonium so wrong four on which was just is just bait [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/580">TS</a>]
00:09:52 ◼ ► but then that's great of that even if you let it. No no no no it gets better. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/592">TS</a>]
00:09:57 ◼ ► The piece de resistance and one that she thought was most like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/597">TS</a>]
00:10:00 ◼ ► Would it be correct to say she made it her like bank and was unobtainium. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/600">TS</a>]
00:10:05 ◼ ► God and this was the one who said I really want to do a science category because I'm a science [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/605">TS</a>]
00:10:12 ◼ ► and leapt at the chance to do chemistry. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/612">TS</a>]
00:10:16 ◼ ► She had three options unobtainium under God I was pretty disappointed I hate James Cameron so much for putting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/616">TS</a>]
00:10:25 ◼ ► unobtainium an avatar that's just as bad. I was really bad as really bad. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/625">TS</a>]
00:10:31 ◼ ► I I mean I just have to explain it just briefly to anyone on the if that happens to be listening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/631">TS</a>]
00:10:38 ◼ ► and you made it all the way through Avatar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/638">TS</a>]
00:10:40 ◼ ► but unobtainium it was a science fiction term just to refer to some kind of material which is not possible to actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/640">TS</a>]
00:10:50 ◼ ► make. So it was a it was a generic classification so. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/650">TS</a>]
00:10:55 ◼ ► Like the the material in the Ringworld books that those worlds are made you could say Oh that is an unobtainium because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/655">TS</a>]
00:11:02 ◼ ► it's incredibly light super strong metal that can possibly exist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/662">TS</a>]
00:11:07 ◼ ► and then for Cameron to actually have the metal that they're going after in the movie called unobtainium is just so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/667">TS</a>]
00:11:14 ◼ ► distracting. There were so many things in that movie that I hated but that one really really ground my gears. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/674">TS</a>]
00:11:20 ◼ ► It would be like having something in a movie that the characters are going after that is called the Macguffin. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/680">TS</a>]
00:11:26 ◼ ► Oh we're trying to find the McGuffin It's like only the first movie that did the MacGuffin that created the term [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/686">TS</a>]
00:11:32 ◼ ► McGuffin is allowed to do that you in your subsequent movies can just call something a MacGuffin without being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/692">TS</a>]
00:11:39 ◼ ► The movie made me furious for very many reasons but piracy subtitles being one of them as well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/699">TS</a>]
00:11:44 ◼ ► but the unobtainium particularly which is like I cannot believe that it's just make up a new name this is the laziest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/704">TS</a>]
00:11:51 ◼ ► most awful distracting thing you could possibly do that movies dating badly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/711">TS</a>]
00:11:55 ◼ ► when it came out like I didn't I didn't hate it I didn't hate her and I don't matter. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/715">TS</a>]
00:12:00 ◼ ► So I thought it was pretty impressive you know it's got its flaws but it was pretty impressive to look at Russia. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/720">TS</a>]
00:12:05 ◼ ► Again the other day because I stumbled over on the telly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/725">TS</a>]
00:12:08 ◼ ► and it just it's looking really poor these days like at times not been kind to me. Good good. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/728">TS</a>]
00:12:17 ◼ ► How many stars have any say as a given. No stars I give it you know the stars. No stands no stars. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/737">TS</a>]
00:12:24 ◼ ► So any more follow up well can I just tell you one more thing about Avatar actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/744">TS</a>]
00:12:29 ◼ ► and I just know I know I get what you can but OK you know what I hate most about the ending of that movie. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/749">TS</a>]
00:12:35 ◼ ► Drives me crazy and sometimes I just remember the ending of that movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/755">TS</a>]
00:12:39 ◼ ► and it makes me angry because they think OK OK This spacefaring civilization has you know is coming into conflict with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/759">TS</a>]
00:12:49 ◼ ► basically people with no technology whatsoever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/769">TS</a>]
00:12:53 ◼ ► and I can understand the notion that maybe under highly specific circumstances at the natives can win a ground war on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/773">TS</a>]
00:13:00 ◼ ► this planet sure whatever. I'll let that slide but the final day he really wants to know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/780">TS</a>]
00:13:06 ◼ ► Yeah yeah right like that's I'll give it to the e walks a fine you know the terrain those apps can be tripped up quite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/786">TS</a>]
00:13:13 ◼ ► easily with some string. Fine fine I'll let that go. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/793">TS</a>]
00:13:16 ◼ ► Right but it's always like the whole empire it crumbles this whole system is gone. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/796">TS</a>]
00:13:21 ◼ ► Now in Avatar the locals are loading the invaders back onto their space ships right now and ships presumably. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/801">TS</a>]
00:13:31 ◼ ► If you don't like to like take off and to go into space [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/811">TS</a>]
00:13:35 ◼ ► and the whole opening premise of that movie is that they're coming from Earth because there are some unspecified huge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/815">TS</a>]
00:13:42 ◼ ► problem on earth. People are dying so they need this unobtainium it's incredibly expensive it's hugely valuable. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/822">TS</a>]
00:13:49 ◼ ► They're not just going to go home right they're not just going to go back to earth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/829">TS</a>]
00:13:52 ◼ ► and be like well sorry everybody you know we couldn't remove that tree from its particular location [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/832">TS</a>]
00:13:57 ◼ ► and we know billions of people have to die. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/837">TS</a>]
00:14:00 ◼ ► But they did fight us off with sticks on the ground is just our God I cannot stand that spaceships spaceship. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/840">TS</a>]
00:14:08 ◼ ► Sorry it just it really it makes me angry. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/848">TS</a>]
00:14:11 ◼ ► I hate that word and I made the eighty S T's that he walks taking out you know in the N.T. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/851">TS</a>]
00:14:16 ◼ ► I think you know what the terrible thing is as soon as I said it I realized it was the wrong to the nation because yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/856">TS</a>]
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00:15:00 ◼ ► realize it's the wrong designation so you know I accept with on Facebook with my friends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/900">TS</a>]
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00:15:10 ◼ ► or apostrophes wrong you know that stuff is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/910">TS</a>]
00:15:13 ◼ ► when friends start like spelling Star Wars things incorrectly like I was having a discussion the other day on Facebook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/913">TS</a>]
00:15:18 ◼ ► with a friend about the Salek and he said that sounds like incorrectly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/918">TS</a>]
00:15:23 ◼ ► and I wasn't that it was you know because it was all of that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/923">TS</a>]
00:15:26 ◼ ► Pedantry because someone had to post a picture of a two day tour with a light saber like someone just as agitated also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/926">TS</a>]
00:15:33 ◼ ► looting at like seven someone's like our you know T.T.T. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/933">TS</a>]
00:15:35 ◼ ► Never had a lot say that and it sounds like well as a matter of fact yes he did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/935">TS</a>]
00:15:39 ◼ ► when he fired the lightsaber to Luke Skywalker I was getting very contained. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/939">TS</a>]
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00:15:56 ◼ ► could talk about so I was for forever which was we're not going to do but I will I will say is I find a little. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/956">TS</a>]
00:16:00 ◼ ► You know what I've been up to think it was recently made the fourth which has become this kind of weird Star Wars sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/960">TS</a>]
00:16:09 ◼ ► And I spent my making the fourth not I didn't do this on purpose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/969">TS</a>]
00:16:13 ◼ ► but afterwards I thought oh this is quite This is quite. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/973">TS</a>]
00:16:15 ◼ ► This worked out quite well for reasons I'll get into later I had stuff that I need to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/975">TS</a>]
00:16:19 ◼ ► and I spent the whole May fourth re watching one of my favorite things on the internet ever which is the red letter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/979">TS</a>]
00:16:27 ◼ ► media reviews of Star Wars Episode one two and three Have you seen this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/987">TS</a>]
00:16:32 ◼ ► and really there is no better way to spend your time than watching guys that are brilliant. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/992">TS</a>]
00:16:38 ◼ ► I have I have thought many a time that I forgive the existence of those first three movies because without them we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/998">TS</a>]
00:16:45 ◼ ► would not have the red letter media reviews I will put the link in the show notes if you haven't seen these things they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1005">TS</a>]
00:16:53 ◼ ► are great at what I will just pre warn people that the style of them takes a lot of getting used to. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1013">TS</a>]
00:17:00 ◼ ► There's a kind of super creepy narrator who is doing this review of why the first three movies are awful. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1020">TS</a>]
00:17:07 ◼ ► Trust me people run with it. Just just go along with it it is completely worth it. They are amazing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1027">TS</a>]
00:17:14 ◼ ► and I often think of them as I mean they are as long as the movies themselves I think it's six hours to watch all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1034">TS</a>]
00:17:20 ◼ ► them from start to finish. They're great and that's great. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1040">TS</a>]
00:17:25 ◼ ► and some other films too I mean the no yeah yeah the star was the pinnacle of the Indiana Jones stuff is quite good. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1045">TS</a>]
00:17:31 ◼ ► Yes standing in a Star Trek I actually my wife has seen the red letter media reviews [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1051">TS</a>]
00:17:38 ◼ ► but my wife is a very big Star Trek fan and I think of sort of references before on the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1058">TS</a>]
00:17:43 ◼ ► and I will not let her watch the red letter media star trek reviews because I've told her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1063">TS</a>]
00:17:49 ◼ ► and I know her well enough to know that this is true. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1069">TS</a>]
00:17:51 ◼ ► These reviews will just ruin some of the things in Star and Star Trek for you forever. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1071">TS</a>]
00:17:56 ◼ ► You can't unsee some of the things that he talks about or the floods he points out. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1076">TS</a>]
00:18:00 ◼ ► So there's a whole team of guys that red letter media [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1080">TS</a>]
00:18:03 ◼ ► and I mean those those reviews are I think just just great great great reviews [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1083">TS</a>]
00:18:08 ◼ ► but I would definitely list the Star Wars reviews in particular as one of my ten favorite things I have ever seen on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1088">TS</a>]
00:18:15 ◼ ► the Internet so it will be in the show notes. Check it out people it's amazing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1095">TS</a>]
00:18:19 ◼ ► Follow up follow up we're talking about news last time someone in the Reddit left a quote which you can I thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1099">TS</a>]
00:18:25 ◼ ► summarize my my position just beautifully which is this Mark Twain quote that goes if you don't read the newspaper. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1105">TS</a>]
00:18:33 ◼ ► Your uninformed and if you read the newspaper you are misinformed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1113">TS</a>]
00:18:38 ◼ ► and I thought that that just struck me as beautiful like that is a perfect encapsulation of Basically my opinion of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1118">TS</a>]
00:18:44 ◼ ► most of the news and. I choose to be uninformed rather than misinformed. So I just I love that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1124">TS</a>]
00:18:52 ◼ ► So thanks to whoever posted that on on the read it that was just that was just perfect that was really good. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1132">TS</a>]
00:18:58 ◼ ► Did Mark Twain like say anything in his life that wasn't like an awesome quote like he must have been five hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1138">TS</a>]
00:19:04 ◼ ► years out of sight to be sent over or some quotes where he said well this is it I have not investigated. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1144">TS</a>]
00:19:09 ◼ ► Actually Mark to another so many mis attributed to Mark Twain kind of quote It's like it's like Yogi Berra there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1149">TS</a>]
00:19:14 ◼ ► certain kind of quote that just gets ascribed to a particular person so someone can tell us in the comments if that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1154">TS</a>]
00:19:20 ◼ ► genuinely if it is a sourced Mark Twain quote or if this is just a manufactured Mark Twain quote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1160">TS</a>]
00:19:25 ◼ ► or if somebody else said it wasn't as famous as Mark Twain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1165">TS</a>]
00:19:28 ◼ ► but either way that that statement I think is just perfect absolutely perfect timing can they put a link down they want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1168">TS</a>]
00:19:36 ◼ ► Oh yeah I just just very briefly because I mentioned Nate Silver's five thirty eight Project the other one that I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1176">TS</a>]
00:19:42 ◼ ► to mention which is I don't I don't know this reporter as well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1182">TS</a>]
00:19:46 ◼ ► but it's got called as reclined has started his own news project as well which looks promising I was taking a look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1186">TS</a>]
00:19:55 ◼ ► but one of the things I like that they're that they're doing on this alternate news project is. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1195">TS</a>]
00:20:02 ◼ ► If they interview someone they're publishing both the interviews like the full length Here's the actual interview we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1202">TS</a>]
00:20:12 ◼ ► and I think that that is a great example of how news on the Internet can just can just be so different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1212">TS</a>]
00:20:18 ◼ ► and you can you can have a story that summarizes an interview that you did with somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1218">TS</a>]
00:20:22 ◼ ► and within that story you can link to the audio version or whatever our limitations. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1222">TS</a>]
00:20:28 ◼ ► There's no there's no limit at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1228">TS</a>]
00:20:31 ◼ ► and I think part of it is a guy I have followed for years called Paul Graham was recently caught out in a big big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1231">TS</a>]
00:20:37 ◼ ► problem where the quote that he said was taken out of context and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1237">TS</a>]
00:20:41 ◼ ► and this is the kind of thing where I think it is great if this could become more of a standard that look if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1241">TS</a>]
00:20:45 ◼ ► going to do a story you're going to publish the whole interview as well so you can't try to spin it in a particular way. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1245">TS</a>]
00:20:54 ◼ ► And also on the flip side it allows it doesn't allow people to just claim that they were misquoted if they are actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1254">TS</a>]
00:21:01 ◼ ► just said some horrible thing or if they really meant that they can say oh the newspaper took me out of context. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1261">TS</a>]
00:21:06 ◼ ► Because again you have a whole interview there so I thought I just thought that was a good example of how the internet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1266">TS</a>]
00:21:11 ◼ ► is different and can be better than traditional news reporting in some ways. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1271">TS</a>]
00:21:16 ◼ ► So yeah appealing to Vox in the show notes if people want to check that out. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1276">TS</a>]
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00:21:49 ◼ ► and today Grey's let me loose he's going to let me recommend one that first of all I think I quickly talk about why you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1309">TS</a>]
00:21:55 ◼ ► would listen to audiobooks. I've only really got into audio books in the last couple of years and that's because. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1315">TS</a>]
00:22:01 ◼ ► One is I've started driving a lot more and longer distances because of my work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1321">TS</a>]
00:22:07 ◼ ► and like reading an actual book at the wheel of a car is pretty dangerous. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1327">TS</a>]
00:22:11 ◼ ► So I give that mace and go for the audiobooks instead. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1331">TS</a>]
00:22:14 ◼ ► But also you've probably heard me talk recently on the podcast about some trips I've taken to the Himalayas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1334">TS</a>]
00:22:19 ◼ ► and that involves basically you know ten hour walks each day and audiobooks really helped pass the time. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1339">TS</a>]
00:22:26 ◼ ► Now when I did those trips I filled up the i Phone with books all about Mt Everest in the Himalayas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1346">TS</a>]
00:22:31 ◼ ► and I love mountaineering books full stop. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1351">TS</a>]
00:22:33 ◼ ► I want to recommend a book today called high crimes by Michael Codesa I guess is how you pronounce his name. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1353">TS</a>]
00:22:39 ◼ ► This is a book I listen to while walking to Everest base camp [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1359">TS</a>]
00:22:43 ◼ ► and basically I mean the subheading of the book is the fate of Everest in an age of greed and it really is about. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1363">TS</a>]
00:22:51 ◼ ► Why all the crazy things people are getting up to on the mountain these days. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1371">TS</a>]
00:22:55 ◼ ► I mean this isn't like sort of into thin air where you think well you know some people here have got moral dilemmas. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1375">TS</a>]
00:23:02 ◼ ► This book tells some stories about some acts people do that are just plain criminal. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1382">TS</a>]
00:23:07 ◼ ► It really is extraordinary it's true story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1387">TS</a>]
00:23:09 ◼ ► and it's told really cleverly it's told from the two different sides of the mountain at the same time some people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1389">TS</a>]
00:23:17 ◼ ► are going up from the deposed Saddam some of the people who were going up from the the China Tibet side it's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1397">TS</a>]
00:23:24 ◼ ► It's well narrated it's well written [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1404">TS</a>]
00:23:27 ◼ ► and if you're someone who does like going for walks it's a really nice book to have playing while sort of you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1407">TS</a>]
00:23:34 ◼ ► admiring the scenery and watching the world go by. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1414">TS</a>]
00:23:37 ◼ ► So they go high crimes if you want to listen to all of you has along with one hundred fifty thousand other titles. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1417">TS</a>]
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00:24:07 ◼ ► I just want to share a little moment I had with you and it was a really it was a nothing moment. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1447">TS</a>]
00:24:13 ◼ ► Well I think it will speak to you in some way. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1453">TS</a>]
00:24:17 ◼ ► They of course basically I had I've been filming all this stuff on all my various cameras including like the high speed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1457">TS</a>]
00:24:27 ◼ ► slow motion camera that create these enormous files that take days to process [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1467">TS</a>]
00:24:32 ◼ ► and I've actually got a second computer in a corner that just processes those files because for various reasons so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1472">TS</a>]
00:24:39 ◼ ► have plugged in all the high speed camera and and all these files were processing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1479">TS</a>]
00:24:45 ◼ ► and then over my main computer I had all my rushes from that day's filming or going into the computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1485">TS</a>]
00:24:51 ◼ ► and at the same time the computer was processing some other videos from one format to another that needed doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1491">TS</a>]
00:24:58 ◼ ► and at the same time I was downloading a bunch of stuff that was being sent to me by someone else via Dropbox. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1498">TS</a>]
00:25:04 ◼ ► And while that was going on I think I was just surfing the internet or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1504">TS</a>]
00:25:08 ◼ ► and I suddenly looked around at what was going on and how much work these machines were doing and I thought. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1508">TS</a>]
00:25:17 ◼ ► Computers a pretty amazing good. There are amazing. Yes they are but they are quite amazing and super important. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1517">TS</a>]
00:25:26 ◼ ► Like I remember I was once going for a walk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1526">TS</a>]
00:25:28 ◼ ► and I was closing a gate that had to be closed otherwise what she could escape [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1528">TS</a>]
00:25:34 ◼ ► and someone had attached a rock to the chain that post the gate closed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1534">TS</a>]
00:25:43 ◼ ► and because that rock was tied on there the gate would always be pulled closed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1543">TS</a>]
00:25:46 ◼ ► but you couldn't leave it open by mistake and I looked at that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1546">TS</a>]
00:25:49 ◼ ► and I thought oh isn't that clever Isn't that amazing how clever humans [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1549">TS</a>]
00:25:53 ◼ ► and I spent a good five ten minutes talking to people that this clever person who'd attached a rock to a chair. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1553">TS</a>]
00:26:00 ◼ ► Oh day I'm surrounded by these machines that are doing these remarkable remarkable things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1560">TS</a>]
00:26:06 ◼ ► and you just don't think about it I think that the rock on a chain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1566">TS</a>]
00:26:10 ◼ ► and the computers are kind of the same thing if you want to set up an environment that assists you in whatever it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1570">TS</a>]
00:26:17 ◼ ► you want to do so I actually really love the rock on the chain as well because it's something of there are going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1577">TS</a>]
00:26:23 ◼ ► times when you're exiting the gate and you're you're occupied with something else or you're in a big hurry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1583">TS</a>]
00:26:26 ◼ ► and so you want to engineer the situation so that it is not possible for you to forget because then you have sheep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1586">TS</a>]
00:26:32 ◼ ► running all over the countryside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1592">TS</a>]
00:26:33 ◼ ► or whatever it is you know the Raptor gets loose because you didn't put the bolt in the way it's supposed to be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1593">TS</a>]
00:26:38 ◼ ► well you shouldn't be able to leave the cage unbolted. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1598">TS</a>]
00:26:42 ◼ ► So I think that that stuff is great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1602">TS</a>]
00:26:43 ◼ ► and the computers are the same thing having having the machine to do work for you when when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1603">TS</a>]
00:26:50 ◼ ► when you're not actively using it is brilliant. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1610">TS</a>]
00:26:52 ◼ ► The sheer volume of work they do is amazing the lack just anyway so I sound like I've just come from I said like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1612">TS</a>]
00:27:00 ◼ ► caveman know and like that sometimes you just forget and I like that just how how much they do and how quickly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1620">TS</a>]
00:27:07 ◼ ► but anyway I was just a little moment I had missed out on him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1627">TS</a>]
00:27:10 ◼ ► and I thought Grey would like this to be in the life of computers I do I too I am glad that you appreciate you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1630">TS</a>]
00:27:18 ◼ ► mechanical servants that we have in our lives the digital service that we have in our lives. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1638">TS</a>]
00:27:22 ◼ ► Say speaking of technology digital servants and assistants. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1642">TS</a>]
00:27:28 ◼ ► I'm going to fail you the other day and I didn't get through I got your voicemail. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1648">TS</a>]
00:27:34 ◼ ► It basically is just saying that leave a message. I don't listen to messages. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1654">TS</a>]
00:27:39 ◼ ► That's about right I like that I like that I was kind of it was hardcore you know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1659">TS</a>]
00:27:44 ◼ ► Yet don't mess around with pleasantries just like you waste your time. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1664">TS</a>]
00:27:49 ◼ ► It's like it's like sending your name I don't Bob No doubt the e-mails at least have the possibility of catching my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1669">TS</a>]
00:27:55 ◼ ► attention but you may shake your voice my little in case I can't play my voice not basically say. As I see G.P. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1675">TS</a>]
00:28:03 ◼ ► I do not check these messages and the thing that baffles me is that I know people still leave voice mails. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1683">TS</a>]
00:28:11 ◼ ► I don't understand who the people are who these voice mails because I don't listen to them. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1691">TS</a>]
00:28:15 ◼ ► I'm not kidding around and a little while ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1695">TS</a>]
00:28:17 ◼ ► when I think it was in the latest version of I O S Apple introduced a feature where you can block messages [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1697">TS</a>]
00:28:25 ◼ ► or text on a particular phone number so I actually blocked whatever number it is that my telephone service provider [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1705">TS</a>]
00:28:33 ◼ ► uses to send me a notification to let me know that I have forty five unread voicemail messages. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1713">TS</a>]
00:28:38 ◼ ► So I go this is great so I can block this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1718">TS</a>]
00:28:39 ◼ ► and now I don't even have to do it once a week get some dumb text telling me that there's a message [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1719">TS</a>]
00:28:43 ◼ ► or that I should listen to. So I know that my voicemail is basically just a black hole. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1723">TS</a>]
00:28:49 ◼ ► I things go in there and they never come out and everyone is like you know what if your wife gets abducted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1729">TS</a>]
00:28:55 ◼ ► and she's trying to call you from the trunk of a car if she's being sped out to the countryside she sang How are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1735">TS</a>]
00:29:01 ◼ ► darling tell me and. So first of all she probably sent me a text message. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1741">TS</a>]
00:29:07 ◼ ► But second of all I mean I have my phone on me all the time as she tries to call I can see that it's her calling again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1747">TS</a>]
00:29:15 ◼ ► with on the i Phone her you know her picture shows up and it's my wife so I know to take that call [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1755">TS</a>]
00:29:21 ◼ ► but my phone blocks you know anything from unknown numbers and you know I don't I just don't even receive those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1761">TS</a>]
00:29:28 ◼ ► but of course the people in my life who want to be able to contact me know how to contact me if they're not going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1768">TS</a>]
00:29:35 ◼ ► leave a voicemail message that's I get I don't know who these people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1775">TS</a>]
00:29:39 ◼ ► and I guess I never will know who the people are who the voicemail messages I get all I know is that they have my phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1779">TS</a>]
00:29:44 ◼ ► number but they don't know the ways that I actually want to be contacted and that's fine I guess. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1784">TS</a>]
00:29:51 ◼ ► No it's never caused any problems for me so I came across a video the other day. Which I just showed you today. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1791">TS</a>]
00:30:03 ◼ ► I will I will I will try and explain the video for the few people out there who have not seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1803">TS</a>]
00:30:07 ◼ ► and they must only be a few because big watch twenty nine million times. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1807">TS</a>]
00:30:11 ◼ ► Just pull it up again even though it infuriated me. Yes twenty nine actually. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1811">TS</a>]
00:30:16 ◼ ► As of now it's now thirty million views they must've just updated it so I will try to summarize it before I let you off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1816">TS</a>]
00:30:28 ◼ ► I would it's it's a very clean cut young man in a sensible sweater and reciting a poem to I believe he wrote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1828">TS</a>]
00:30:38 ◼ ► and it was kind of one of those poems that your rockets go that is nice because it will drive him all the time while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1838">TS</a>]
00:30:44 ◼ ► you eat some lime sort of grimy palm and it's all about. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1844">TS</a>]
00:30:54 ◼ ► Sort of our current society's obsession with you know social media and always being on our computers and i Phones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1854">TS</a>]
00:31:01 ◼ ► and a sort of a video like this comes along every few months I guess that goes viral which is cool which is ironic that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1861">TS</a>]
00:31:08 ◼ ► they'd come along come along and go viral on social media. But anyway this this one went viral. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1868">TS</a>]
00:31:13 ◼ ► There was one there was one last year that was really good actually. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1873">TS</a>]
00:31:16 ◼ ► So what about that Gail that was sort of it hanging out with their friends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1876">TS</a>]
00:31:20 ◼ ► and doing all these activities in Iran was always on their phone. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1880">TS</a>]
00:31:22 ◼ ► Yes I mean I'll see if I can find that one I remember that when making the rounds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1882">TS</a>]
00:31:26 ◼ ► and I really like that one that one's good but this one's a bit odd and this one didn't do it for me so much. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1886">TS</a>]
00:31:34 ◼ ► But anyway if you know what I'm going to be completely honest with you I haven't even watched so far. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1894">TS</a>]
00:31:40 ◼ ► I would not get five minutes to a video I don't enjoy but I believe you did what you know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1900">TS</a>]
00:31:44 ◼ ► Well well well to be clear about this you sent this to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1904">TS</a>]
00:31:50 ◼ ► and said oh I really want you to watch this for today's program. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1910">TS</a>]
00:31:54 ◼ ► Now because I want to stay you know well I was stirred up partly because. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1914">TS</a>]
00:32:00 ◼ ► About three minutes into it I said something to you like I should I should pull up I support the messages right here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1920">TS</a>]
00:32:05 ◼ ► what I what I say to you I said the video is so insufferable. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1925">TS</a>]
00:32:10 ◼ ► Do I have to watch to the end it's already been three minutes and forty forty six seconds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1930">TS</a>]
00:32:15 ◼ ► and the video is five minutes long. And Hugh reply you're like oh I didn't even watch it at all. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1935">TS</a>]
00:32:23 ◼ ► You know so I just sent it to you I thought you should watch it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1943">TS</a>]
00:32:26 ◼ ► and I thought I like an idiot just assume that you sent me something to watch and that you would have watched it all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1946">TS</a>]
00:32:31 ◼ ► but you just you just wanted to pass it along to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1951">TS</a>]
00:32:33 ◼ ► and neglected to mention that you yourself didn't watch it so I was super irritated by that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1953">TS</a>]
00:32:39 ◼ ► I think I got the general gist in the general case is you know where technology is an illusion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1959">TS</a>]
00:32:44 ◼ ► and let's end the confusion and delusion and let's all get together and hold hands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1964">TS</a>]
00:32:53 ◼ ► and get our heads out of the screens and smell the flowers and touch a baby and stuff. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1973">TS</a>]
00:33:02 ◼ ► and like I don't disagree with the sentiment like I sometimes feel really down about how much time I spend on computers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1982">TS</a>]
00:33:08 ◼ ► and social media. I'm like you I probably I know you I mean. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1988">TS</a>]
00:33:12 ◼ ► I'm prob this video should appeal to me more than you because I do feel that life has become too skewed in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/1992">TS</a>]
00:33:20 ◼ ► direction. But this video a twenty nine million. Tell me what you thought about it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2000">TS</a>]
00:33:28 ◼ ► Well I just assumed that you were one hundred percent on board with this nonsense I'm actually kind of surprised that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2008">TS</a>]
00:33:33 ◼ ► it irritated even you but you have to the basic I mean will put it in the show notes you know good luck people. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2013">TS</a>]
00:33:40 ◼ ► You can watch it but the basic premise of the video is exactly that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2020">TS</a>]
00:33:43 ◼ ► and people spent too much time on social media blah blah blah. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2023">TS</a>]
00:33:46 ◼ ► And there is the Romney poem and the video that's going on in the background shows people on their phones. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2026">TS</a>]
00:33:52 ◼ ► But there's a kind of story I guess that that's cut through it which is this guy using. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2032">TS</a>]
00:34:00 ◼ ► If it shows a guy who instead of using his phone is trying to find directions somewhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2040">TS</a>]
00:34:06 ◼ ► and of course a pretty girl walks by and he asks her for directions and then they skip to them suddenly having dinner. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2046">TS</a>]
00:34:14 ◼ ► I guess it's implied that she was going to go. Yeah there was a story. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2054">TS</a>]
00:34:19 ◼ ► So if you talk to real humans you can write like a like a pretty girl will suddenly end up having dinner with you if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2059">TS</a>]
00:34:25 ◼ ► you just ask her for directions which first of all I just think instead of using Google Maps using Google Maps I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2065">TS</a>]
00:34:33 ◼ ► so many things wrong with that but I mean how many women are going to presumably walk a stranger to their location [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2073">TS</a>]
00:34:40 ◼ ► and then end up having dinner with them that night I think the chances of that are pretty low so I don't like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2080">TS</a>]
00:34:46 ◼ ► framing mechanism just even to start with for the video. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2086">TS</a>]
00:34:49 ◼ ► And also again the the idea that there are only people in the real world right that there aren't people on the Internet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2089">TS</a>]
00:34:56 ◼ ► Well I think I mentioned before on the show but I found my wife through the Internet. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2096">TS</a>]
00:35:01 ◼ ► I would I would never have met her were it not for the Internet we had many a digital communication before we ever met [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2101">TS</a>]
00:35:08 ◼ ► So the idea that I go the only way you can find true love is just by random chance walking around in the street asking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2108">TS</a>]
00:35:14 ◼ ► strangers for directions and then being a total creepy person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2114">TS</a>]
00:35:17 ◼ ► and having them walk you to that place long enough so that you can get to know each other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2117">TS</a>]
00:35:22 ◼ ► and then she invites you over for dinner I guess in this fantasy land of how human interactions go now. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2122">TS</a>]
00:35:30 ◼ ► So I think even you must realize that eventually you have to supplement this cyber relationship with like a physical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2130">TS</a>]
00:35:37 ◼ ► meeting women you bit the bullet one day and said I'm going to make this woman before I actually marry her. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2137">TS</a>]
00:35:44 ◼ ► and that's that's the thing that I hate about a video like this is is is is the whole premise the whole premise through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2144">TS</a>]
00:35:51 ◼ ► something like this is that our technology is not any good because it separates us from each other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2151">TS</a>]
00:35:57 ◼ ► and I think that premise is obvious. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2157">TS</a>]
00:36:00 ◼ ► Yes Leigh wrong there is there is a totally reasonable argument to be made about the amount of time that people spend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2160">TS</a>]
00:36:07 ◼ ► using technology that's a completely reasonable argument. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2167">TS</a>]
00:36:11 ◼ ► But but this idea that the premise of the video is like you know go on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2171">TS</a>]
00:36:15 ◼ ► and it ends with with the the takeaway message is the next time you go outside Be sure to leave your i Phone behind so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2175">TS</a>]
00:36:23 ◼ ► you can experience the real world. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2183">TS</a>]
00:36:26 ◼ ► What are you crazy who is can kick you that was going to do that unless I'm intentionally I don't know going to some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2186">TS</a>]
00:36:35 ◼ ► isolation retreat for the weekend which I would also say that that can be an interesting experience to do there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2195">TS</a>]
00:36:40 ◼ ► there are places you can go that are intentionally separated from technology I think that's a super cool experience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2200">TS</a>]
00:36:46 ◼ ► but I'm still going to take my phone right on in my car to get to that place for so many numerous reasons it's just. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2206">TS</a>]
00:36:55 ◼ ► These things just make me mad to make me super mad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2215">TS</a>]
00:36:57 ◼ ► and I also notice how I mean there's no way he could have known this was going to be watched as many times as they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2217">TS</a>]
00:37:04 ◼ ► and I have noted that he has activated advertising on his one video on You Tube so I bet he's about to start spending a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2224">TS</a>]
00:37:11 ◼ ► whole lot more time making You Tube videos. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2231">TS</a>]
00:37:12 ◼ ► Yes probably was as uploaded recently I think I think I think he's about to enter the April twenty fifth. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2232">TS</a>]
00:37:19 ◼ ► Oh so this is one like I guess now a record it's been two and a half three weeks. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2239">TS</a>]
00:37:24 ◼ ► This guy thought I bet he's not going to think it's such an illusion delusion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2244">TS</a>]
00:37:28 ◼ ► when he starts getting a big check from you getting thirty million views that like a third of my whole You Tube career [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2248">TS</a>]
00:37:38 ◼ ► but so anyway it just makes me mad and I think now the first one that I liked a while back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2258">TS</a>]
00:37:47 ◼ ► and it's been it's been a long time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2267">TS</a>]
00:37:48 ◼ ► but I'm going to presume based on the kinds of things the past me would like that that video was more reasonable about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2268">TS</a>]
00:37:54 ◼ ► it and I think that I don't know I don't know if you experience a super often. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2274">TS</a>]
00:38:00 ◼ ► But I will I will judge people harshly if we're in a social situation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2280">TS</a>]
00:38:05 ◼ ► and someone is always distracted by their phone big you know partly because OK it's taken a whole bunch of effort for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2285">TS</a>]
00:38:13 ◼ ► everybody to come out and like and we're in a place and if you are the person who is always on their phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2293">TS</a>]
00:38:18 ◼ ► or you know you the person like posting photographs of the thing that we're at right now. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2298">TS</a>]
00:38:24 ◼ ► Yeah I do kind of judge that a little bit I think if you're socializing with other people it's time to put your phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2304">TS</a>]
00:38:31 ◼ ► and make a conscious effort to be present with the people that you're there with I think that's the point of going out. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2311">TS</a>]
00:38:38 ◼ ► If you didn't want to be there with the people then you shouldn't have gone and you should have stayed home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2318">TS</a>]
00:38:43 ◼ ► and that's you know that's perfectly fine. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2323">TS</a>]
00:38:45 ◼ ► So I make it a very very conscious effort that if I'm if I'm out with people to not have my phone out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2325">TS</a>]
00:38:50 ◼ ► and not be checking the phone and I think that that's that's good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2330">TS</a>]
00:38:54 ◼ ► and that's a reasonable argument that you're going to leave your phone at home. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2334">TS</a>]
00:39:02 ◼ ► or that that the phone hasn't helped your life in a numerous into so many ways I mean that's that's the thing that gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2342">TS</a>]
00:39:09 ◼ ► me is that people don't have i Phones. For no reason. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2349">TS</a>]
00:39:15 ◼ ► People have all of these smartphones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2355">TS</a>]
00:39:17 ◼ ► and all of these devices because they are making a judgment that their life is way better with them than without them. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2357">TS</a>]
00:39:25 ◼ ► So that's that's why it's I can't stand these things where I think all Apple has made all of us sad by the magical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2365">TS</a>]
00:39:31 ◼ ► wondrous things that they have created which we all voluntarily use every day because they're great. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2371">TS</a>]
00:39:37 ◼ ► It just it just gives me it's you know I just I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2377">TS</a>]
00:39:41 ◼ ► but like you said I mean I'm probably more susceptible to that message [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2381">TS</a>]
00:39:44 ◼ ► but I kind of can't believe it that you're on my side in this argument to be well. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2384">TS</a>]
00:39:49 ◼ ► Well I think I think he lost me with his style. Like the like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2389">TS</a>]
00:39:55 ◼ ► Whereas the other one the one that was good from a year ago or so I like that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2395">TS</a>]
00:40:00 ◼ ► Kind of cool and well Sharpton like I was sort of jealous of the filmmaking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2400">TS</a>]
00:40:05 ◼ ► and thought Yeah this is really cool we may resist one was kind of a bit like you know I thought it was a bit twenty in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2405">TS</a>]
00:40:14 ◼ ► So you know I'm not I'm not completely hard core [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2414">TS</a>]
00:40:19 ◼ ► but I do think there is you know you know I think a bit differently to you on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2419">TS</a>]
00:40:23 ◼ ► and we will do spend too much time on the Internet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2423">TS</a>]
00:40:25 ◼ ► and I may more than anyone that is super open to the argument that there are there are times to put technology away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2425">TS</a>]
00:40:35 ◼ ► and I think many years ago I mean the company made us want to try to get this right I think it was called The Prince [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2435">TS</a>]
00:40:42 ◼ ► Albert hotel tell. Listen to the fast typing Wow I wasn't even looking at the keyboard when that was going on. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2442">TS</a>]
00:40:53 ◼ ► How do you know what buttons you are pressing. Well I have learned to touch type. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2453">TS</a>]
00:40:58 ◼ ► That has happened so I knew I didn't quite get that right I was just looking it up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2458">TS</a>]
00:41:01 ◼ ► and it was the Prince of Wales Hotel. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2461">TS</a>]
00:41:04 ◼ ► Just when the name people want to look it up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2464">TS</a>]
00:41:06 ◼ ► and it is in an amazingly gorgeous place which is this national park that spans both Canada [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2466">TS</a>]
00:41:12 ◼ ► and the United States called the Waterton glacier International Peace Park. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2472">TS</a>]
00:41:18 ◼ ► It is a stunningly beautiful place if you are ever if you ever in the area you need to to take a trip to see it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2478">TS</a>]
00:41:24 ◼ ► and I happen to just stumble upon this place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2484">TS</a>]
00:41:26 ◼ ► when I was doing a road trip across America I didn't really intend to go there I just sort of ended up there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2486">TS</a>]
00:41:31 ◼ ► and the hotel makes a big point of the fact that they don't have why fight they don't have internet. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2491">TS</a>]
00:41:39 ◼ ► How can they get cell phone reception at that hotel and that part of the experience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2499">TS</a>]
00:41:44 ◼ ► and I think I ended up staying there for two or three days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2504">TS</a>]
00:41:48 ◼ ► and I thought it was just great you know I love that kind of conscious decision that we're going to have this space [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2508">TS</a>]
00:41:54 ◼ ► where we remove technology and they had a downstairs dining area where they encouraged everybody to come. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2514">TS</a>]
00:42:00 ◼ ► Look those people here and we want to try to encourage you to talk to other people in this setting and I did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2520">TS</a>]
00:42:05 ◼ ► and it was it was really nice it was really great so there there is definitely benefits to conscious exclusion of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2525">TS</a>]
00:42:14 ◼ ► But the idea that all of life is made miserable by technology is just obviously ludicrous. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2534">TS</a>]
00:42:19 ◼ ► So anyway that's that's that to the actual border run through the grounds not between the two countries. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2539">TS</a>]
00:42:25 ◼ ► Well not for this that hotel was very clearly on the Canada side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2545">TS</a>]
00:42:30 ◼ ► but there is basically it is a stunning forest mountain range glacier area and both the United States [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2550">TS</a>]
00:42:38 ◼ ► and Canada thought that this mountain range would make a great national park [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2558">TS</a>]
00:42:43 ◼ ► and then at some point they realized oh we both have these national parks that are butting up right against each other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2563">TS</a>]
00:42:49 ◼ ► So why don't we make this like an officially managed area as an international Park so it's very very cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2569">TS</a>]
00:42:56 ◼ ► and you should go check it out if you're ever in the area. The elephant in the pod cast that we have not yet discussed. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2576">TS</a>]
00:43:05 ◼ ► You put in here but you know that. Yes yes. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2585">TS</a>]
00:43:08 ◼ ► We're recording this on Thursday night and on Monday I put a video out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2588">TS</a>]
00:43:15 ◼ ► and there was a there was a brief glorious moment on the grave verses Brady Web site where it showed me as having put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2595">TS</a>]
00:43:24 ◼ ► out a video and you as having nothing at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2604">TS</a>]
00:43:28 ◼ ► and so I had to screenshot that for myself to preserve this rare moment because normally it says that you have released [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2608">TS</a>]
00:43:35 ◼ ► twenty seven videos since the last time I released a video so I was I was happy to see that counter at least briefly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2615">TS</a>]
00:43:42 ◼ ► reset with with the real video. So when we talk about your video I do have a few issues with that Web site. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2622">TS</a>]
00:43:49 ◼ ► Go girl like like I enjoy that it was made and like I get a chuckle from it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2629">TS</a>]
00:43:54 ◼ ► but I think it manages to be unfair to both of us which is quite amazing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2634">TS</a>]
00:44:00 ◼ ► It manages to portray both of us very unfairly and that's a pretty special. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2640">TS</a>]
00:44:05 ◼ ► Now do you actually think and how do you think it through all of us and fairly well. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2645">TS</a>]
00:44:12 ◼ ► How long if you go look at it but it's what you think it treats you unfairly. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2652">TS</a>]
00:44:21 ◼ ► Well I guess it maybe takes me momentarily but Tracy will be unfairly because it makes it makes you look. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2661">TS</a>]
00:44:28 ◼ ► Unproductive and makes it look like you know he's really making videos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2668">TS</a>]
00:44:33 ◼ ► and trying to educate the world while you're stagnating. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2673">TS</a>]
00:44:38 ◼ ► Right that's one way you could put it which is completely unfair because of the completely different nature of their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2678">TS</a>]
00:44:43 ◼ ► videos and the way they're made and the production cycles so I think that's unfair on you and then. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2683">TS</a>]
00:44:50 ◼ ► I think it's unfair on me because it makes me look like I'm going to video as well your lovingly crafting videos in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2690">TS</a>]
00:44:58 ◼ ► you know in your studio but also also you know having these few accounts and having having the average of you count. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2698">TS</a>]
00:45:06 ◼ ► Obviously my average we can't is very very low compared to yours partly because you have a much bigger more successful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2706">TS</a>]
00:45:11 ◼ ► channel but also because my number number filed is pretty much the same number of subscribers. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2711">TS</a>]
00:45:21 ◼ ► but also you know my average is being dragged down by all these other little videos I make for these little niche [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2721">TS</a>]
00:45:26 ◼ ► projects so I think that average is slightly deceiving figure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2726">TS</a>]
00:45:32 ◼ ► but then the total number of yes' which obviously then puts me up probably higher than you again I think it is also it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2732">TS</a>]
00:45:38 ◼ ► is also unfair because you know I have all these different projects and different things I'm working on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2738">TS</a>]
00:45:45 ◼ ► and you're just you know so I think I don't know I think it's a bit unfair I don't buy that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2745">TS</a>]
00:45:51 ◼ ► but I love that it was made and I do look at it and I and I get a laugh and I think it's a good joke to have going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2751">TS</a>]
00:46:01 ◼ ► and I think I think that anybody who is enthusiastic enough to go to that Web site like that they know that it's funny. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2761">TS</a>]
00:46:08 ◼ ► They understand how different our videos are the love I do love the little Easter eggs that when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2768">TS</a>]
00:46:15 ◼ ► and if you count to has frozen a three I won so you can't just throw one in there that actually made that a hyperlink [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2775">TS</a>]
00:46:21 ◼ ► to my three A one video that explains why he's stick it through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2781">TS</a>]
00:46:24 ◼ ► and if you notice that I didn't notice the hyperlink it didn't as a hyperlink. Yeah I am. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2784">TS</a>]
00:46:29 ◼ ► I'm forever envious of your three o one video because I had something in the works on that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2789">TS</a>]
00:46:36 ◼ ► and so now you get to be the definitive video about why video stop at three hundred one views so well done well done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2796">TS</a>]
00:46:43 ◼ ► You shouldn't you should you should still make one because you do it better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2803">TS</a>]
00:46:47 ◼ ► and would be really cool to watch right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2807">TS</a>]
00:46:49 ◼ ► but I think I think I think yours is good I think there is no reason to duplicate as you but you win this round [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2809">TS</a>]
00:46:56 ◼ ► but I did not notice that there was a hyperlink on the three o one so that's good that's a nice touch. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2816">TS</a>]
00:47:00 ◼ ► Let's touch on it is that was that was that was nice. I really want you to make it through one video it was torture. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2820">TS</a>]
00:47:07 ◼ ► Anyway anyway let's this is that stop talking about that let's talk about your new video which you put out this week on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2827">TS</a>]
00:47:15 ◼ ► net neutrality and which I've watched a couple of times and enjoyed very much. I thought it was excellent. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2835">TS</a>]
00:47:23 ◼ ► Tell me about it. Well you know so me to very quickly tell me the story. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2843">TS</a>]
00:47:29 ◼ ► Yeah this was a video that I think honestly took took some some weeks off the end of my life because this was this was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2849">TS</a>]
00:47:39 ◼ ► under just the most unusual group of circumstances so there's the short version of this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2859">TS</a>]
00:47:50 ◼ ► I was working on something a main video for this month which was not the net neutrality thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2870">TS</a>]
00:47:56 ◼ ► but I don't know what it was I think or maybe I saw something on Reddit or first. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2876">TS</a>]
00:48:00 ◼ ► Some reason net neutrality was just on the top of my mind. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2880">TS</a>]
00:48:03 ◼ ► On Thursday nights the Thursday before the video I remember going to bed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2883">TS</a>]
00:48:09 ◼ ► and it was just it was kind of just cycling in my brain isn't falling to sleep or thinking about net neutrality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2889">TS</a>]
00:48:13 ◼ ► and so then in the on Friday morning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2893">TS</a>]
00:48:17 ◼ ► when I went to my usual work routine I thought let me just let me just poke around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2897">TS</a>]
00:48:21 ◼ ► and research the net neutrality thing a little bit I can feel my brain is interested in this this might be a good time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2901">TS</a>]
00:48:27 ◼ ► And Friday morning I discovered that this whole news in while recording this right now that in America the F.C.C. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2907">TS</a>]
00:48:35 ◼ ► Which is the government body that kind of regulates all of the stuff of Internet and telecommunications [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2915">TS</a>]
00:48:42 ◼ ► They announced that they're going to have some announcements related to net neutrality on the fifteenth of this month [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2922">TS</a>]
00:48:50 ◼ ► and so I discover that on Friday morning the calendar is just going at the right because one is and so that would be. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2930">TS</a>]
00:49:00 ◼ ► Second I guess. Yeah so that was Friday morning with the second. Yeah and. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2940">TS</a>]
00:49:07 ◼ ► Basically I thought oh God this is the this is the best time ever to make this video that I've been kind of thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2947">TS</a>]
00:49:13 ◼ ► about for a while like I had a bunch of notes already on net neutrality if I'm ever going to do it I have to do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2953">TS</a>]
00:49:19 ◼ ► right now but it's going to be an advocacy video so that means I need to get it out as soon as possible. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2959">TS</a>]
00:49:25 ◼ ► And for various strategic trying to hit the news cycle reasons that that meant like OK I have to get this out on either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2965">TS</a>]
00:49:32 ◼ ► Monday or Tuesday at the absolute latest I know in my normal production cycle that is not really possible. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2972">TS</a>]
00:49:42 ◼ ► But I was thinking OK I I do already know a lot about this topic. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2982">TS</a>]
00:49:47 ◼ ► I don't have to do a bunch of research on this so I can cut all of that out. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2987">TS</a>]
00:49:51 ◼ ► And this kind of thing I think most people who watch videos don't notice that it's a big deal for me. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2991">TS</a>]
00:49:57 ◼ ► I stylistically have two different videos. Our video is where I'm talking to the audience directly. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/2997">TS</a>]
00:50:04 ◼ ► Those are the videos that usually start out where I say hello internet. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3004">TS</a>]
00:50:07 ◼ ► And then I have my what I think of as the main videos were stylistically I don't use the word I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3007">TS</a>]
00:50:13 ◼ ► and I might make oblique references to my thoughts but I very intentionally don't ever use the word I. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3013">TS</a>]
00:50:19 ◼ ► Yeah and the ones where I talk to the audience are way easier to write. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3019">TS</a>]
00:50:23 ◼ ► I was thinking OK if I do this is as a first person centred video and I don't need to do the research. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3023">TS</a>]
00:50:31 ◼ ► Is it possible to turn it around and so I basically spent all of Friday trying to write a rough draft for the script [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3031">TS</a>]
00:50:37 ◼ ► and I came to the conclusion that if I don't sleep I might be able to get this out by Monday which is which is what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3037">TS</a>]
00:50:45 ◼ ► But just to add in the thing that made this a little bit more difficult [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3045">TS</a>]
00:50:49 ◼ ► and it was just the worst timing in the world was that. Both on Monday. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3049">TS</a>]
00:50:55 ◼ ► My wife was leaving for a trip where she's going to be gone for about a week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3055">TS</a>]
00:51:00 ◼ ► and so the idea of having to say I'm not going to be around because I need to spend all of my time on this project [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3060">TS</a>]
00:51:07 ◼ ► right before you're going to go somewhere is not ideal. That's not good. Yes not good. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3067">TS</a>]
00:51:12 ◼ ► And then you add into the fact that I had family visiting from America at this exact same time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3072">TS</a>]
00:51:18 ◼ ► and so I had to say the same thing that oh I know you flew across an ocean to see me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3078">TS</a>]
00:51:24 ◼ ► but I need to take three days to not be available because I need to go do a thing on the Internet. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3084">TS</a>]
00:51:32 ◼ ► So like this project was both incredibly rushed and under terribly difficult circumstances. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3092">TS</a>]
00:51:38 ◼ ► But I did it because it is it is a topic that I super care about like there are very few topics where I would look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3098">TS</a>]
00:51:46 ◼ ► that factor. All of these decisions and say but I should still make this video anyway. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3106">TS</a>]
00:51:51 ◼ ► I think almost any other topic I would say I do not have the time or the resources [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3111">TS</a>]
00:51:55 ◼ ► or just like the sanity to be able to ignore my family in this time to be able to. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3115">TS</a>]
00:52:00 ◼ ► So it was it was a very costly video and a whole bunch of waves. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3120">TS</a>]
00:52:03 ◼ ► And yes I ended up on Sunday I did all of the animations and most of the audio [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3123">TS</a>]
00:52:10 ◼ ► and I basically woke up Sunday at about seven am and I went to bed at three am and then I cut up Monday morning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3130">TS</a>]
00:52:16 ◼ ► and finished up a couple final things and so I was not in great shape that day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3136">TS</a>]
00:52:22 ◼ ► and I feel like I'm still slightly recovering from this this ridiculous burst of work which is not a sustainable way to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3142">TS</a>]
00:52:30 ◼ ► work so it was it was very exhausting from start to finish. It only took three days just to do that once I wake up. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3150">TS</a>]
00:52:36 ◼ ► Yeah and then my rest for the other four days and you could have a weekly video to be brilliant. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3156">TS</a>]
00:52:43 ◼ ► Now that is a a once maybe twice a year kind of kind of thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3163">TS</a>]
00:52:49 ◼ ► and I get only under incredibly exceptional circumstances [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3169">TS</a>]
00:52:53 ◼ ► and only for topics I know already that is that even possible. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3173">TS</a>]
00:52:56 ◼ ► So I love you Internet which is why I made that video I think this is super important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3176">TS</a>]
00:53:00 ◼ ► but there's no way I could do normal videos like that and still be alive by the time I was fifty or so. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3180">TS</a>]
00:53:07 ◼ ► So let's talk about net neutrality for him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3187">TS</a>]
00:53:10 ◼ ► and obviously I'm imagining almost everyone who listens will of say New video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3190">TS</a>]
00:53:15 ◼ ► and if they haven't well maybe they should post now Mucha. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3195">TS</a>]
00:53:19 ◼ ► Yeah I was actually wondering and dear listener who hears my voice right now you can answer this question. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3199">TS</a>]
00:53:25 ◼ ► I was kind of wondering if there's anybody who listens to this who doesn't watch both of our channels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3205">TS</a>]
00:53:31 ◼ ► or at the very least one of our channels a few very curious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3211">TS</a>]
00:53:35 ◼ ► and they read it if there is anybody who came upon this pod cast in some other way but didn't didn't either. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3215">TS</a>]
00:53:42 ◼ ► No your channel or my channel before that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3222">TS</a>]
00:53:44 ◼ ► I'm just curious to know if that person exists if you exist and you're listening to me right now. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3224">TS</a>]
00:53:49 ◼ ► Thomas please leave a comment in the Reddit and we'll see how that goes and kind of areas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3229">TS</a>]
00:53:54 ◼ ► but I had also just did a video which is excellent which I'm sure you might mention and would definitely. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3234">TS</a>]
00:54:00 ◼ ► So I think grain I had missed ten grains but I saw that today as well and that's also very good. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3240">TS</a>]
00:54:06 ◼ ► I discovered his video after I spent my whole day writing the scripts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3246">TS</a>]
00:54:11 ◼ ► and then the first time I checked my computer email on the things I saw I was angry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3251">TS</a>]
00:54:15 ◼ ► and upload a video so I thought oh call them if you let me see what Hank has done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3255">TS</a>]
00:54:19 ◼ ► and then he asked for my heart upload her video I think I guess I'm not. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3259">TS</a>]
00:54:25 ◼ ► Yeah I am really I'm still out of it I think it was yesterday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3265">TS</a>]
00:54:29 ◼ ► but yeah so just super brief for you know for the record on this show. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3269">TS</a>]
00:54:36 ◼ ► Net neutrality is basically it's this issue about what amount of control does the company that you by your Internet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3276">TS</a>]
00:54:47 ◼ ► have over what comes through the wires and net neutrality is the principle that they should basically have no control. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3287">TS</a>]
00:54:56 ◼ ► But all of the data should be treated equally and that whatever X. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3296">TS</a>]
00:55:01 ◼ ► Whatever web site you are attempting to access that should just come through your Internet cable at the maximum. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3301">TS</a>]
00:55:08 ◼ ► Technically possible speed or the maximum speed for whatever package you have paid for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3308">TS</a>]
00:55:13 ◼ ► and that there shouldn't there shouldn't be any ability to change that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3313">TS</a>]
00:55:18 ◼ ► So that that is the principle of net neutrality in a nutshell treat all data coming through the pipe equally So this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3318">TS</a>]
00:55:25 ◼ ► sort of your internet provider country some deal where they say we'll give you a super fast Netflix [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3325">TS</a>]
00:55:31 ◼ ► but your youtube videos will be sly things by that in the US [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3331">TS</a>]
00:55:36 ◼ ► and in other parts around the world companies Internet service providers some of them anyway are are trying to get that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3336">TS</a>]
00:55:44 ◼ ► rule removed because if you are the person who's actually maintaining those Internet connections you want the ability [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3344">TS</a>]
00:55:53 ◼ ► to influence the traffic that is going through those wires and you have a as a company you have a huge number of. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3353">TS</a>]
00:56:00 ◼ ► Reason that you would want to do this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3360">TS</a>]
00:56:03 ◼ ► but I would say what I would assume is one of the primary motive factors motivating factors is simply just money. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3363">TS</a>]
00:56:10 ◼ ► If you control like the final wire going into somebody's house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3370">TS</a>]
00:56:15 ◼ ► and you have the ability to artificially slow down various Web sites unless people either the consumer who is already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3375">TS</a>]
00:56:21 ◼ ► paying for the Internet pays more for the speedy you to package or you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3381">TS</a>]
00:56:27 ◼ ► or as has happened in the United States where the Internet service providers have charged just sounds so awful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3387">TS</a>]
00:56:34 ◼ ► but they have charged other companies like Netflix additional money in order to just let Netflix through the wire as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3394">TS</a>]
00:56:43 ◼ ► it's supposed to go. It's like holding data for ransom isn't it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3403">TS</a>]
00:56:47 ◼ ► Yeah it's basically like holding data for data for ransom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3407">TS</a>]
00:56:50 ◼ ► and there are topics that are just basically impossible to talk about in terms of what they really are. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3410">TS</a>]
00:57:01 ◼ ► Go to Wikipedia and read the article about how the Internet works. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3421">TS</a>]
00:57:05 ◼ ► You have all of these complicated connections between you know Tier one Tier two Tier three providers backbones peering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3425">TS</a>]
00:57:13 ◼ ► exchanges with all this at these huge levels of complexity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3433">TS</a>]
00:57:16 ◼ ► and I was speaking with a few people to try to sort out some of the stuff in this segment if you're not a network [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3436">TS</a>]
00:57:25 ◼ ► It's almost impossible to talk about this in the terms that it actually is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3445">TS</a>]
00:57:30 ◼ ► and so you see as in my own video as in via hearts video as it Hanks video people talk in terms of analogies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3450">TS</a>]
00:57:36 ◼ ► and they use the usual analogy is like a road and people are talking about trucks and delivering packages [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3456">TS</a>]
00:57:42 ◼ ► and it's because there's no other way to talk about this you can't have this discussion on the actual level of what it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3462">TS</a>]
00:57:50 ◼ ► is and then all of the arguments kind of boil get get messed up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3470">TS</a>]
00:57:55 ◼ ► when you're arguing over the analogy because there are so many reasons that cars on a road. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3475">TS</a>]
00:58:00 ◼ ► Nothing like the way the Internet works that it's very confusing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3480">TS</a>]
00:58:04 ◼ ► and it's one of the reasons why I absolutely hate it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3484">TS</a>]
00:58:06 ◼ ► but the Internet service providers are often talking about building fast lanes you know like oh we want to build fast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3486">TS</a>]
00:58:14 ◼ ► lanes for the Internet which sounds awesome except that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3494">TS</a>]
00:58:17 ◼ ► when you try to root through the technical details what they really mean is like oh well slow down everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3497">TS</a>]
00:58:24 ◼ ► and then the normal lane becomes the fast lane and you know everything else is going through the slow lane [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3504">TS</a>]
00:58:29 ◼ ► and it's simply fast by comparison. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3509">TS</a>]
00:58:31 ◼ ► But it's it's just such a complicated issue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3511">TS</a>]
00:58:35 ◼ ► and I have I have I'm just incredibly deep disappointments with the video that I produced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3515">TS</a>]
00:58:42 ◼ ► but I'm relatively happy with it given the time constraints [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3522">TS</a>]
00:58:47 ◼ ► and given the kind of goal from my perspective which was to talk about net neutrality in the most general possible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3527">TS</a>]
00:58:55 ◼ ► terms not specifically related to the issues going on in America. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3535">TS</a>]
00:59:00 ◼ ► And in a way that might hopefully give a person unfamiliar with the technology some notion of why it is bad. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3540">TS</a>]
00:59:10 ◼ ► So the those were basically my goals for that I was not attempting to explain more of the details of what's going on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3550">TS</a>]
00:59:17 ◼ ► and for that I think via heart we actually were talking via heart is spotted me on Twitter asking a particular question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3557">TS</a>]
00:59:25 ◼ ► and that the couple times of I've talked by heart in person. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3565">TS</a>]
00:59:30 ◼ ► It's just creepy but sometimes we have the exact same thoughts about something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3570">TS</a>]
00:59:34 ◼ ► or like we know what the other person is thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3574">TS</a>]
00:59:36 ◼ ► and via hearts on the Ask a relatively innocuous question on Twitter why was asking people for help with something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3576">TS</a>]
00:59:41 ◼ ► and basically sent me a message a minute later she said I know exactly what you're working on you're working on a net [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3581">TS</a>]
00:59:46 ◼ ► neutrality video and I am too. Yes by heart you can read my mind. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3586">TS</a>]
00:59:51 ◼ ► So we she showed me her script you know and we had a little bit of a discussion about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3591">TS</a>]
00:59:56 ◼ ► but if you want a video that does a much better job of talking. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3596">TS</a>]
01:00:00 ◼ ► Still an analogy but much more about like what is what are the details of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3600">TS</a>]
01:00:04 ◼ ► and what is happening in America right now via hard video is a much better video than mine for that mine I think is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3604">TS</a>]
01:00:10 ◼ ► much more general one that I hope will be applicable in future situations if if net neutrality problems come up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3610">TS</a>]
01:00:18 ◼ ► I was I was having a think about not discussing this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3618">TS</a>]
01:00:21 ◼ ► and because implicitly sometimes my role here is to be a bit of a devil's advocate just to kind of nudge you a bit to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3621">TS</a>]
01:00:28 ◼ ► find out more about what you think. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3628">TS</a>]
01:00:30 ◼ ► But this really is a case of where being the devil's advocate is being an advocate of the devil in a way because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3630">TS</a>]
01:00:37 ◼ ► because it's hard to it's hard to kind of reconcile the opposing position. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3637">TS</a>]
01:00:43 ◼ ► And like I was doing it to myself in my head saying I could ask radius where I could put this to him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3643">TS</a>]
01:00:48 ◼ ► but I was just like my argument was falling apart before I even came out of my mouth because I kind of. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3648">TS</a>]
01:00:55 ◼ ► I think we're pretty much in agreement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3655">TS</a>]
01:00:57 ◼ ► and like no one you know that you trust is really important to me for my job to you. I will try. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3657">TS</a>]
01:01:05 ◼ ► Well if I before you even try just to simply say that I did get a whole bunch of comments both on You Tube [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3665">TS</a>]
01:01:11 ◼ ► and on Reddit where people were asking you know what what the other what the other side to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3671">TS</a>]
01:01:16 ◼ ► or you know why you know what why would a government even consider doing this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3676">TS</a>]
01:01:21 ◼ ► and most of the time I would try to explain that if there was some kind of reasonable argument to be had on the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3681">TS</a>]
01:01:27 ◼ ► side. But there are there are definitely times when there there is no reasonable argument to be had on the other side. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3687">TS</a>]
01:01:38 ◼ ► I can understand why the company wants to do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3698">TS</a>]
01:01:41 ◼ ► but there's no argument to be made for why it is good for either society or the Internet as a whole is my position. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3701">TS</a>]
01:01:47 ◼ ► So now I will let you devil's advocate after I've put that in ahead of time so I guess the first question like the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3707">TS</a>]
01:01:55 ◼ ► fundamental question to this is is data. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3715">TS</a>]
01:02:00 ◼ ► And like access to the Internet is a fundamental right like you know I like having air to breathe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3720">TS</a>]
01:02:08 ◼ ► and to a lesser extent access to our water. I know there are a lot of people who don't have that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3728">TS</a>]
01:02:16 ◼ ► How fundamental right is this because a lot of the chest beating that goes on is like how dare you how dare you slide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3736">TS</a>]
01:02:23 ◼ ► this one down and give me this one fast I want to hold him. I guess the question is will hang on. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3743">TS</a>]
01:02:28 ◼ ► We have this real sense of entitlement about the Internet and data [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3748">TS</a>]
01:02:33 ◼ ► and access to it is it is it like a robot you know it should be just expect to be able to have it in the first place I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3753">TS</a>]
01:02:40 ◼ ► think I think you can reasonably call it right in the same way electricity is a right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3760">TS</a>]
01:02:47 ◼ ► Once your society is at a certain level of wealth that it doesn't it doesn't make sense to deprive your citizens of. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3767">TS</a>]
01:02:57 ◼ ► A plumbing or electricity or internet. If your G.D.P. Per capita is above the amount X. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3777">TS</a>]
01:03:04 ◼ ► So it is not a fundamental right in the same way that you might say they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3784">TS</a>]
01:03:10 ◼ ► or that one might make an argument for food being kind of fundamental to being human. Obviously the Internet is not. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3790">TS</a>]
01:03:17 ◼ ► But if your society is wealthy enough it's just crazy not to ensure that everybody has access to the Internet. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3797">TS</a>]
01:03:23 ◼ ► So that's a little bit the way I would look at it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3803">TS</a>]
01:03:26 ◼ ► But the entitlement thing is interesting because you know the Internet works very differently in countries around the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3806">TS</a>]
01:03:32 ◼ ► world and until very recently the U.K. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3812">TS</a>]
01:03:39 ◼ ► Did not have any kind of net neutrality laws and everything was basically sort of fine with U.K. Internet. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3819">TS</a>]
01:03:48 ◼ ► But the reason things were OK with U.K. Internet has to do with competition regulations. So basically in the U.K. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3828">TS</a>]
01:03:56 ◼ ► For almost everybody you have a genuine choice. Internet service providers. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3836">TS</a>]
01:04:02 ◼ ► I think I think in our latest flat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3842">TS</a>]
01:04:03 ◼ ► when I went to look there was something like seven companies that we could buy our Internet from if we wanted to. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3843">TS</a>]
01:04:09 ◼ ► And so this is Internet Neutrality matters a lot more in a place like the United States where almost everybody has no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3849">TS</a>]
01:04:19 ◼ ► choice with their Internet service provider [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3859">TS</a>]
01:04:21 ◼ ► and now this I mean this has to do a lot with regulations in particular countries [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3861">TS</a>]
01:04:25 ◼ ► and I sort of don't want to get into that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3865">TS</a>]
01:04:27 ◼ ► But but I would just say that net neutrality it's I think it is very important. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3867">TS</a>]
01:04:33 ◼ ► But there are circumstances under which it is it is not necessarily the most important thing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3873">TS</a>]
01:04:40 ◼ ► If you have genuine competition between Internet providers you can do OK without net neutrality because they all act as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3880">TS</a>]
01:04:48 ◼ ► But yeah I swear America sometimes tries to make sure it does the worst of everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3888">TS</a>]
01:04:53 ◼ ► and then combine it together to make it even worse than anything could be in a kind of amazingly awesome badness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3893">TS</a>]
01:05:01 ◼ ► And so both having no competition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3901">TS</a>]
01:05:04 ◼ ► and then not having any kind of regulations to ensure that the person you're a monopoly provider does a halfway decent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3904">TS</a>]
01:05:11 ◼ ► job is just the worst of both worlds or just it just makes it absolutely terrible so. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3911">TS</a>]
01:05:15 ◼ ► So I think that's where yeah that's I think that's the real nub of the matter there because the one thing I think you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3915">TS</a>]
01:05:22 ◼ ► know from from our discussions over over time is I know you're a big believer in market forces [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3922">TS</a>]
01:05:28 ◼ ► and you know things working out that commercial forces often allowing things to work out. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3928">TS</a>]
01:05:35 ◼ ► So part of me was thinking you know what square I worried about like Surely the right thing you know if someone's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3935">TS</a>]
01:05:41 ◼ ► trying to make money they're allowed to make money and if if if they can be undercut they'll be undercut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3941">TS</a>]
01:05:47 ◼ ► and you know you know the rest. But this is not obviously this is not the case. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3947">TS</a>]
01:05:52 ◼ ► My experience of the engine is the same as yours in the U.K. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3952">TS</a>]
01:05:55 ◼ ► In that you know I shop around to get get the best deal I can. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3955">TS</a>]
01:06:00 ◼ ► And then you point out that this is not the case in the USA and Europe. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3960">TS</a>]
01:06:04 ◼ ► Yeah I would just say that I think markets are a particular kind of tool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3964">TS</a>]
01:06:11 ◼ ► and they're not universally applicable in every situation you just have to think about what situations do. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3971">TS</a>]
01:06:17 ◼ ► Do markets work best under and for for a situation where you have to dig up streets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3977">TS</a>]
01:06:27 ◼ ► and lay cables in the ground is a huge start of cost to becoming an Internet service provider. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3987">TS</a>]
01:06:33 ◼ ► The barrier to entry is so large as to effectively exclude any kind of genuine competition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/3993">TS</a>]
01:06:40 ◼ ► and that that can be the problem with the Internet so unless you live in a place that has laws that say. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4000">TS</a>]
01:06:46 ◼ ► You know we're going to eventually make sure that all of these cables any company can use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4006">TS</a>]
01:06:50 ◼ ► and figure out a way to make sure that works for everybody. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4010">TS</a>]
01:06:54 ◼ ► If you don't have that you just you can't start up a competitor Internet service provider if you have like call me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4014">TS</a>]
01:07:02 ◼ ► when you've dug the roads to every dug ditches to every house in America and laid fiber optic cable inside of them. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4022">TS</a>]
01:07:08 ◼ ► But once you've once you've done that let me know and then you can start if your internet service provider [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4028">TS</a>]
01:07:13 ◼ ► and I think I think a great example of this is Google in America who is starting up an Internet service provider [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4033">TS</a>]
01:07:18 ◼ ► but it is taking years and it is growing very slowly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4038">TS</a>]
01:07:22 ◼ ► and from everything I read it is just insanely costly to actually do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4042">TS</a>]
01:07:28 ◼ ► and they know they can only do it in relatively small cities because of the A bit like having to dig up the roads [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4048">TS</a>]
01:07:34 ◼ ► and all these are things like Can you imagine a city like New York saying OK we're going to shut down the roads for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4054">TS</a>]
01:07:38 ◼ ► few months as we allow a whole bunch of companies to lay down competitive cables underneath the street. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4058">TS</a>]
01:07:44 ◼ ► I mean it just can't happen as you could. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4064">TS</a>]
01:07:47 ◼ ► There's almost no way it would ever be worth shutting down New York for something like that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4067">TS</a>]
01:07:51 ◼ ► So there are situations that are with which market forces just cannot possibly work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4071">TS</a>]
01:07:56 ◼ ► and this is definitely one of them so. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4076">TS</a>]
01:08:00 ◼ ► It's it's a tricky situation and you know I just think again it's so it's so hard to explain it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4080">TS</a>]
01:08:07 ◼ ► but I mentioned it really briefly in the in the video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4087">TS</a>]
01:08:10 ◼ ► but I had a way longer section that I thought I just I had to cut out so I could possibly do it in the allocated time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4090">TS</a>]
01:08:17 ◼ ► but I really think that the best comparison for net neutrality is is not the roads but it is the electrical grid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4097">TS</a>]
01:08:25 ◼ ► and that we have an electrical grid that in every country in the world when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4105">TS</a>]
01:08:31 ◼ ► when you plug something in your house the electricity company doesn't have any say over how you're using that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4111">TS</a>]
01:08:41 ◼ ► You buy a certain amount of electricity just like you buy a certain amount of data from your internet service provider. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4121">TS</a>]
01:08:47 ◼ ► And the electricity company it like is none of their business what you do with that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4127">TS</a>]
01:08:50 ◼ ► If you're running it you know light bulbs or computers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4130">TS</a>]
01:08:52 ◼ ► or anything else that's not there that's not their job their job is to deliver electricity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4132">TS</a>]
01:08:58 ◼ ► and it's a similar situation where we have these regulations that don't allow the electricity company to charge you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4138">TS</a>]
01:09:04 ◼ ► differently for different things in your house because the barrier to entry for starting up an electrical company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4144">TS</a>]
01:09:11 ◼ ► building a gigantic power station running electrical lines all over the country is just is just too big right that can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4151">TS</a>]
01:09:20 ◼ ► and even if in theory it could be we wouldn't want dozens of electrical wires running into everybody's house. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4160">TS</a>]
01:09:26 ◼ ► Only one set of which is ever active at a time because that's the company that people have happened to buy their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4166">TS</a>]
01:09:32 ◼ ► So I really think that that that is the best comparison to what the situation is with the Internet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4172">TS</a>]
01:09:38 ◼ ► and it becomes more understandable about why we have to ensure there are certain protections in this in this area [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4178">TS</a>]
01:09:45 ◼ ► because it's just competition is just never going to happen on its own. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4185">TS</a>]
01:09:50 ◼ ► In this environment so and your thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4190">TS</a>]
01:09:52 ◼ ► and you're creating data like electricity this kind of anonymous same local stuff. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4192">TS</a>]
01:10:00 ◼ ► But yet flows in it a commodity is what it is you know it's you know one watt is just as good as one bit on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4200">TS</a>]
01:10:07 ◼ ► internet is my perspective on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4207">TS</a>]
01:10:09 ◼ ► and the electricity company I guess the difference there was the electricity company can do deals with the electricity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4209">TS</a>]
01:10:16 ◼ ► generators and you know there's a bit of wheeling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4216">TS</a>]
01:10:18 ◼ ► and dealing going on there you know by this by this many megawatts this year at this price. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4218">TS</a>]
01:10:24 ◼ ► XETRA And that's kind of isn't that kind of what the space is starting today they're starting to say hang on let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4224">TS</a>]
01:10:31 ◼ ► start doing deals with the people generating the data. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4231">TS</a>]
01:10:34 ◼ ► Netflix and things like that that the only way they can monetize data is is the amount of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4234">TS</a>]
01:10:41 ◼ ► or the speed of its flow because it's not what you can do it do it with a power station you can't do the same deal with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4241">TS</a>]
01:10:50 ◼ ► Well there's a whole the thing that's weird about this which I think is a strange framing issue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4250">TS</a>]
01:10:55 ◼ ► but it's people talking about Netflix's data for example in the United States taking up a huge amount of the bandwidth. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4255">TS</a>]
01:11:02 ◼ ► Yeah but that's. That's not Netflix is data that is the data that I am trying to download from Netflix. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4262">TS</a>]
01:11:11 ◼ ► We see internet connection that I paid for like you are purchasing access to the Internet from your I S P. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4271">TS</a>]
01:11:20 ◼ ► The very notion that that Netflix is sort of getting in the way is just letting you know it's like Netflix isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4280">TS</a>]
01:11:30 ◼ ► People are are are sucking data out of Netflix with the kitten with the connection that they have paid for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4290">TS</a>]
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01:11:45 ◼ ► you have times it travels like ninety percent of the way to your house through networks that are just unrelated to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4305">TS</a>]
01:11:51 ◼ ► actual person providing you with the Internet at the very end. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4311">TS</a>]
01:11:56 ◼ ► So they're charging you right to just basically get from the street to your. Front door sometimes where they go. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4316">TS</a>]
01:12:02 ◼ ► Suddenly it's a huge problem that we have to deliver that quick data Like hey guy this came across a continent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4322">TS</a>]
01:12:10 ◼ ► and you're telling me that suddenly once it gets to my front door it's shockingly expensive to let it get the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4330">TS</a>]
01:12:15 ◼ ► thirty feet I mean that's a little a little rich. So that's a problem that I have with this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4335">TS</a>]
01:12:20 ◼ ► This framing of the issue that like Netflix is slowing down the Internet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4340">TS</a>]
01:12:25 ◼ ► when it's actually the problem is that that people are demanding that flicks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4345">TS</a>]
01:12:30 ◼ ► and bands like that's like saying it's not McDonald's fault you know it's that it's the fat Americans buying all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4350">TS</a>]
01:12:35 ◼ ► burgers but that's true but McDonald's have created a demand for something that causes a problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4355">TS</a>]
01:12:42 ◼ ► and is not true that sort of Netflix is this you know. Very successful company that is selling video data. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4362">TS</a>]
01:12:50 ◼ ► It has certainly created a demand for something and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4370">TS</a>]
01:12:54 ◼ ► and then there are space have if if it's causing them all these problems which is a debate to be had. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4374">TS</a>]
01:12:59 ◼ ► But let's say let's call it a problem. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4379">TS</a>]
01:13:01 ◼ ► Yes that's true because they have two choices they either ramp up the process on the consumers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4381">TS</a>]
01:13:07 ◼ ► or they go straight to the source of the hamburgers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4387">TS</a>]
01:13:10 ◼ ► and say look if you're going to stop putting all these hamburgers in the pipes you're going to have to pay something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4390">TS</a>]
01:13:15 ◼ ► for. Yeah and that's kind of what I've done isn't. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4395">TS</a>]
01:13:18 ◼ ► and here's where again I think the problem is that the Internet just works nothing like out that like anything else the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4398">TS</a>]
01:13:23 ◼ ► Hamburg analogy is sort of OK for the real world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4403">TS</a>]
01:13:25 ◼ ► but again take it take it back to electricity companies talk about that same same problem right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4405">TS</a>]
01:13:31 ◼ ► So imagine it's I don't know it's nineteen and it's the one nine hundred twenty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4411">TS</a>]
01:13:38 ◼ ► and we have electricity we have electric light bulbs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4418">TS</a>]
01:13:40 ◼ ► and there's some infrastructure in place that is supplying all the light bulbs across the country with electricity from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4420">TS</a>]
01:13:46 ◼ ► these electric companies and the power stations. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4426">TS</a>]
01:13:48 ◼ ► Yet the current situation is a bit like OK as time goes on we're inventing more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4428">TS</a>]
01:13:55 ◼ ► and more electrical doo hickeys right that we want to plug into the wall and we have a vacuum cleaner. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4435">TS</a>]
01:14:00 ◼ ► The washing machines and all these other kinds of things. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4440">TS</a>]
01:14:03 ◼ ► And the electricity companies who are in this analogy the service providers are basically saying that they don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4443">TS</a>]
01:14:10 ◼ ► to build any more infrastructure than the infrastructure that was already there. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4450">TS</a>]
01:14:17 ◼ ► Why or how it was all the all the wires the poles and importantly the power stations. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4457">TS</a>]
01:14:21 ◼ ► That's what they don't want to build the power stations are big and expensive. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4461">TS</a>]
01:14:25 ◼ ► and so what they do instead is start charging you based on what it is that you want to plug into the wall forcing everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4465">TS</a>]
01:14:33 ◼ ► and all the light bulbs in your house to be dimmer because there's more and more Americans with more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4473">TS</a>]
01:14:38 ◼ ► and more light bulbs so we have to make the light bulb dimmer. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4478">TS</a>]
01:14:41 ◼ ► Yeah but the problem here is like OK electricity company. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4481">TS</a>]
01:14:46 ◼ ► I can understand that under some circumstances if the demand for light bulbs you know went way up faster than you were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4486">TS</a>]
01:14:51 ◼ ► expecting people have more electrical devices than you were expecting. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4491">TS</a>]
01:14:55 ◼ ► OK maybe there's some scenario under which you would theoretically have to do this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4495">TS</a>]
01:15:01 ◼ ► but the issue here is like as a society what we want to encourage if we want to encourage you electrical company to build [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4501">TS</a>]
01:15:08 ◼ ► more power stations so that everybody has more electricity so that they can do more things with that electricity like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4508">TS</a>]
01:15:16 ◼ ► my washing machine like your computer is doing work for you all day long. Society as a whole wants more power. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4516">TS</a>]
01:15:25 ◼ ► And so what you have to do if you're in a situation where markets don't work because normally if there's huge demand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4525">TS</a>]
01:15:31 ◼ ► right in a market that's what markets do great is they are able to fill that demand. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4531">TS</a>]
01:15:36 ◼ ► But if you don't have a situation where markets work you have to make sure that the regulations encourage the creation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4536">TS</a>]
01:15:45 ◼ ► And so if you tell electrical companies look we're not going to let you charge different prices just so you don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4545">TS</a>]
01:15:51 ◼ ► to build a power station you can't do that you have to make sure that they build more power stations so I think that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4551">TS</a>]
01:15:57 ◼ ► very analogous to the current situation with the Internet search. As providers. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4557">TS</a>]
01:16:01 ◼ ► Is there whining and moaning about how full their pipes are with all this data from the Internet. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4561">TS</a>]
01:16:07 ◼ ► Hey Internet providers don't you think this is a good sign that people want more Internet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4567">TS</a>]
01:16:15 ◼ ► and net neutrality is a great kind of regulation that forces them to increase investments in infrastructure. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4575">TS</a>]
01:16:23 ◼ ► If they can if they can start biasing what data they let into your house at what particular speeds. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4583">TS</a>]
01:16:29 ◼ ► The only solution for them is that they have to start building more infrastructure which is what you want as a society [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4589">TS</a>]
01:16:35 ◼ ► as a whole because in ten twenty years time I think it's a pretty good prediction that actual data going across the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4595">TS</a>]
01:16:43 ◼ ► Internet is going to quintuple in that period of time. At the least. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4603">TS</a>]
01:16:48 ◼ ► So we need to ensure the creation of more infrastructure. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4608">TS</a>]
01:16:51 ◼ ► We don't want to set up a situation where companies can get away using their same infrastructure forever because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4611">TS</a>]
01:16:59 ◼ ► can do this kind of horrible variable pricing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4619">TS</a>]
01:17:02 ◼ ► and not have to make the investments that we as a society actually want to be made. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4622">TS</a>]
01:17:07 ◼ ► So that's that's where I think the analogy to other other companies just falls down a little bit is because we want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4627">TS</a>]
01:17:14 ◼ ► encourage more pipes. And our only tool is through regulations. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4634">TS</a>]
01:17:19 ◼ ► So that's that's why we have to keep this net neutrality in place because it acts as an incentive. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4639">TS</a>]
01:17:25 ◼ ► To encourage the creation of more infrastructure. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4645">TS</a>]
01:17:27 ◼ ► In addition to just all the fairness issues that come along with net neutrality about biasing one kind of data over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4647">TS</a>]
01:17:33 ◼ ► another so that's my thoughts on that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4653">TS</a>]
01:17:37 ◼ ► If you can do it like that if you're going to be using the law as an instrument to make a commercial company do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4657">TS</a>]
01:17:45 ◼ ► Why factory on the edges Why not just say you have to do it you have to build the government is saying the government [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4665">TS</a>]
01:17:52 ◼ ► society is going to make a commercial entity do something they don't want to do. Fair enough. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4672">TS</a>]
01:18:00 ◼ ► Why not just pass a law that if you want to keep if you want to keep the cables you've got to build more infrastructure. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4680">TS</a>]
01:18:08 ◼ ► OK yeah well this is I mean it was such an interesting topic because so many countries handle this in different ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4688">TS</a>]
01:18:13 ◼ ► and in some places the Internet is basically nationalized in the same way that that some some countries just they build [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4693">TS</a>]
01:18:20 ◼ ► all the sewer pipes and they build all the Internet pipes and that's just the way it is. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4700">TS</a>]
01:18:25 ◼ ► And other countries have more hybrid models. I think in the U.S. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4705">TS</a>]
01:18:29 ◼ ► The the political sentiment is generally very resistance to having the government directly do things I'm not saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4709">TS</a>]
01:18:37 ◼ ► that's wrong I'm not saying that's right it depends a lot on the particular situation. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4717">TS</a>]
01:18:40 ◼ ► Yeah but in America you know Americans generally don't like to expand the scope of government. If they don't have to. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4720">TS</a>]
01:18:50 ◼ ► I can imagine a situation where someone said hey you know good idea let's nationalize all the broadband providers. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4730">TS</a>]
01:18:56 ◼ ► That would not go down well in America. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4736">TS</a>]
01:18:58 ◼ ► And again I think I think that might be there might be legitimate reasons why you shouldn't do that in a place like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4738">TS</a>]
01:19:03 ◼ ► America. You know I can definitely understand that kind of argument. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4743">TS</a>]
01:19:07 ◼ ► So I'm just looking at that as as a certain kind of tool that you have to try and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4747">TS</a>]
01:19:13 ◼ ► and basically as as a as a stick move companies in the right direction if you can't control them if you can't control [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4753">TS</a>]
01:19:21 ◼ ► them directly is just force them to do this thing that they don't necessarily want to do. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4761">TS</a>]
01:19:27 ◼ ► But in America instead the F.C.C. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4767">TS</a>]
01:19:30 ◼ ► Is very likely to turn around and just say oh net neutrality doesn't exist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4770">TS</a>]
01:19:34 ◼ ► and now your existing business is way more profitable because you can charge both your customers more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4774">TS</a>]
01:19:39 ◼ ► and the other companies more and you don't have to make huge infrastructure investments just immediately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4779">TS</a>]
01:19:45 ◼ ► and so it's all very it's all very depressing in America [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4785">TS</a>]
01:19:49 ◼ ► and I have to say I'm quite glad at the moment anyway to be in the U.K. Where there's actual broadband competition. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4789">TS</a>]
01:19:56 ◼ ► And as the E.U. I think was just last month you passed a law. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4796">TS</a>]
01:20:00 ◼ ► Was guaranteeing that there is net neutrality in the European Union as well so it's you know thumbs up for Europe on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4800">TS</a>]
01:20:06 ◼ ► Internet policy. Thumbs down to America. I mean unless of course I'm wrong and the F.C.C. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4806">TS</a>]
01:20:12 ◼ ► Chairman comes out on the fifteenth and says I heart net neutrality. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4812">TS</a>]
01:20:16 ◼ ► But since he is apparently a former lobbyist who used to work for Comcast one of the biggest broadband providers. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4816">TS</a>]
01:20:23 ◼ ► I'm not super hopeful that he's going to come out with a pro net neutrality stance so it'll be spun as it'll be spun as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4823">TS</a>]
01:20:31 ◼ ► neutral to be a spin to it to make it sound like it's a good thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4831">TS</a>]
01:20:34 ◼ ► but I wouldn't be surprised if they just come straight out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4834">TS</a>]
01:20:37 ◼ ► and use the same fast lane technology talking point that they are that I see on the news everywhere. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4837">TS</a>]
01:20:42 ◼ ► You know we want to encourage the creation of fast lanes on the internet so blah blah blah that that's that is kind if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4842">TS</a>]
01:20:49 ◼ ► I had to put money on the table I would I would be fairly willing to bet that you might hear the exact phrase fastlane [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4849">TS</a>]
01:20:56 ◼ ► in the F.C.C. Announcement on the fifteenth. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4856">TS</a>]
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01:21:03 ◼ ► or you know if it goes against how you would like to see what will be the sort of medium term how the problems start to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4863">TS</a>]
01:21:12 ◼ ► manifest themselves for both people in America but for also you as a You Tube you do you feel for yourself. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4872">TS</a>]
01:21:24 ◼ ► I can say that I am not concerned for me personally in terms of my career because you know we put our videos up on You [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4884">TS</a>]
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01:21:42 ◼ ► sure that You Tube comes through the pipes quickly. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4902">TS</a>]
01:21:44 ◼ ► So it I think it's a bit of a it's a bit of an overstatement to say that you're worried about You Tube because You Tube [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4904">TS</a>]
01:21:53 ◼ ► is is an entity that is connected to an incredibly powerful and relatively wealthy company. So I'm. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4913">TS</a>]
01:22:00 ◼ ► I'm concerned that You Tube is going to go away. I think the bigger issue is it just is stagnation for the Internet. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4920">TS</a>]
01:22:09 ◼ ► In the longer term so I think that this is based on the way the ruling goes you can expect that internet speeds will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4929">TS</a>]
01:22:16 ◼ ► continue to just not really grow in America by any significant amount. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4936">TS</a>]
01:22:22 ◼ ► But I think from a customer's perspective the worst thing is it's for someone who's kind of unaware of these issues. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4942">TS</a>]
01:22:29 ◼ ► They're not going to notice anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4949">TS</a>]
01:22:31 ◼ ► and if if the Internet service provider is slowing down artificially some websites they're not going to think of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4951">TS</a>]
01:22:36 ◼ ► Internet service provider as a total jerk. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4956">TS</a>]
01:22:38 ◼ ► They're just going to think that some particular Web site happened to be really slow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4958">TS</a>]
01:22:42 ◼ ► and kind of blame those Web sites precisely because the the blast Web sites come through really fast rate so obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4962">TS</a>]
01:22:49 ◼ ► their internet connection is fast. It just so happens that some Web sites are slow. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4969">TS</a>]
01:22:53 ◼ ► I think that would end up being the general perception from the population. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4973">TS</a>]
01:22:57 ◼ ► So I have to say I mean but then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4977">TS</a>]
01:22:59 ◼ ► but then we come down to just let commercial realities of life like successful just like everything else in life if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4979">TS</a>]
01:23:06 ◼ ► you're successful you go to the top. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4986">TS</a>]
01:23:08 ◼ ► Will it not be that way with Web sites to the rich Web sites that can pay the ransom. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4988">TS</a>]
01:23:14 ◼ ► A successful and much the same way that successful airlines that have good marketing campaigns become successful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/4994">TS</a>]
01:23:21 ◼ ► or the same companies that do the best become successful. Is that not fair. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5001">TS</a>]
01:23:26 ◼ ► The Internet goes the way of everything else in life that the successful rise to the top. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5006">TS</a>]
01:23:32 ◼ ► Because in the end they have the means to do it via their success and those that are unsuccessful. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5012">TS</a>]
01:23:38 ◼ ► You know I have to work harder to become successful. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5018">TS</a>]
01:23:41 ◼ ► Yeah I mean when you pose it like that it sounds like the status quo in terms of human society [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5021">TS</a>]
01:23:46 ◼ ► but from my perspective the most amazing thing about the Internet is it is this incredible meritocracy that we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5026">TS</a>]
01:23:55 ◼ ► never seen before and that it just is obviously great. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5035">TS</a>]
01:24:00 ◼ ► People can start little companies or they can just post stuff on the Internet and so many people can see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5040">TS</a>]
01:24:08 ◼ ► and you don't need to pay some kind of gatekeeper to ensure that your new business is able to get the same kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5048">TS</a>]
01:24:18 ◼ ► I understand that there are there are a lot of there are always going to be advantages to players with more money. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5058">TS</a>]
01:24:25 ◼ ► So You Tube I know it does invest in a lot of genuine infrastructure to try to make sure that You Tube in particular is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5065">TS</a>]
01:24:32 ◼ ► very fast with local data centers and all of these kinds of things. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5072">TS</a>]
01:24:36 ◼ ► I understand that that that happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5076">TS</a>]
01:24:38 ◼ ► but it doesn't change the fact that for lots of teeny tiny companies they can make their Web site [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5078">TS</a>]
01:24:45 ◼ ► and that that has whatever service it is and it can become incredibly popular in a very short period of time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5085">TS</a>]
01:24:50 ◼ ► and right now they don't have to worry about someone knocking on the door [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5090">TS</a>]
01:24:54 ◼ ► and saying oh you're using too much of these pipes. I think that that is just great it's such a meritocracy. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5094">TS</a>]
01:25:00 ◼ ► I really like we've never seen before in human history [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5100">TS</a>]
01:25:04 ◼ ► and that is my concern is that losing net neutrality makes it less meritocratic it reinforces the power of existing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5104">TS</a>]
01:25:16 ◼ ► players more and I don't think that that is good I don't like that kind of influence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5116">TS</a>]
01:25:21 ◼ ► and in the America I never travel is it not inevitable that you know Sure the internet had to settle fairly to a period [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5121">TS</a>]
01:25:28 ◼ ► but if it's going to survive in a capitalist society to capitalist wealth which a lot of the world is eventually people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5128">TS</a>]
01:25:37 ◼ ► are going to get wise and think well hang on You Tube in the in from the rules of capitalism for too long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5137">TS</a>]
01:25:44 ◼ ► and it's time for a reality check. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5144">TS</a>]
01:25:47 ◼ ► Well again it's capitalism for who is capitalism for companies on the internet is nothing but it's nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5147">TS</a>]
01:25:54 ◼ ► but just like the most pure market competition ever. People can use different. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5154">TS</a>]
01:26:00 ◼ ► Services on the Internet companies can start up they compete they are born they die it all happens just an incredible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5160">TS</a>]
01:26:09 ◼ ► The question is do the people who control the plumbing underneath also get to suddenly compete in also not capitalism [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5169">TS</a>]
01:26:19 ◼ ► but basically predatory monopoly practices which is the just the shocking dark side of what could happen when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5179">TS</a>]
01:26:27 ◼ ► when you when you put it like that it sounds a bit mean. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5187">TS</a>]
01:26:31 ◼ ► but that's what it is where you have someone who has monopoly power over infrastructure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5191">TS</a>]
01:26:37 ◼ ► and is then able to engage in rent seeking behavior from traffic flowing through those pipes that they have absolutely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5197">TS</a>]
01:26:45 ◼ ► There's no argument that there's capitalism happening at the plumbing level at the level of the app's actual fibres in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5205">TS</a>]
01:26:53 ◼ ► the ground and no more than it's practical to have capitalism on the level of the roads to your house. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5213">TS</a>]
01:26:59 ◼ ► It's the same kind of thing you wouldn't be it you wouldn't give some company. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5219">TS</a>]
01:27:04 ◼ ► The ability to to put toll toll booths on every single road an entire country [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5224">TS</a>]
01:27:10 ◼ ► and then also charge different rates to different trucks that want to pass through those tolls even if they are the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5230">TS</a>]
01:27:15 ◼ ► same weight but you know one truck is carrying some goods that the company who controls the toll roads doesn't like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5235">TS</a>]
01:27:22 ◼ ► and it's not that's not capitalism in any sense of the word so there's two very very different levels here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5242">TS</a>]
01:27:28 ◼ ► and I think you have just super super efficient super interesting market forces on the level that we interact with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5248">TS</a>]
01:27:39 ◼ ► But the level beneath it is it is not possible to have that same kind of level of interaction. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5259">TS</a>]
01:27:45 ◼ ► and also I just have to say here my concern with the American ruling in particular is not so much about the details of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5265">TS</a>]
01:27:55 ◼ ► this ruling that from our time when we're recording this is going to have. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5275">TS</a>]
01:28:00 ◼ ► Basically about a week is my concern about what I see often [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5280">TS</a>]
01:28:03 ◼ ► and particularly in American politics is this is this establishing of a precedent that you can then build upon to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5283">TS</a>]
01:28:14 ◼ ► So again I recommend you go to buy Hart's video if you want all of the details [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5294">TS</a>]
01:28:18 ◼ ► but basically it's like companies of worms I espied a worm their way into the situation where they have all of the kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5298">TS</a>]
01:28:24 ◼ ► of legal protections that are what are called common carriers have. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5304">TS</a>]
01:28:30 ◼ ► They're not responsible for the traffic that flows through their pipes. Then they have all of these legal protections. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5310">TS</a>]
01:28:36 ◼ ► But throughout all of our history those legal protections have come a particular cost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5316">TS</a>]
01:28:40 ◼ ► and now they're trying to work their way out of the costs that we as a society want to impose on them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5320">TS</a>]
01:28:46 ◼ ► and so I just I don't like the precedent setting it. It reminds me of in America the kind of. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5326">TS</a>]
01:28:54 ◼ ► The initial rulings about money as free speech in America and I remember being really frowning my face at that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5334">TS</a>]
01:29:02 ◼ ► and it was not it was not because of that particular ruling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5342">TS</a>]
01:29:06 ◼ ► but because I thought man that ruling is a horrible precedent that allows things to happen later. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5346">TS</a>]
01:29:12 ◼ ► And that's what we have seen over the years is slowly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5352">TS</a>]
01:29:15 ◼ ► but surely once you establish that that money is free speech there's all sorts of other constraints that you eventually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5355">TS</a>]
01:29:23 ◼ ► Like in America limits to giving to campaigns [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5363">TS</a>]
01:29:26 ◼ ► or says I Well we don't limit how much someone can talk about a candidate. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5366">TS</a>]
01:29:31 ◼ ► So if money is just like talking you can't limit how much talking you can do about a can do about a candidate so we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5371">TS</a>]
01:29:37 ◼ ► can't limit how much money you can give a candidate either. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5377">TS</a>]
01:29:40 ◼ ► And that's my concern about the Net Neutrality ruling is I do not want to give the local Internet service providers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5380">TS</a>]
01:29:47 ◼ ► more power to discriminate either in favor or less in favor of the data that is flowing through their pipes. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5387">TS</a>]
01:29:54 ◼ ► I'm worried about where that goes in future steps once you establish that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5394">TS</a>]
01:30:00 ◼ ► President that the companies are allowed to have some kind of control about what flowing through those wires. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5400">TS</a>]
01:30:04 ◼ ► So but I think my concern comes from. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5404">TS</a>]
01:30:07 ◼ ► One thing I would say that common carrier point I think is really key to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5407">TS</a>]
01:30:13 ◼ ► and that is one thing that I mean I loved your video but that's one thing I really took from VI's video. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5413">TS</a>]
01:30:19 ◼ ► Yes that's a hit that hit home with me when I sit and formulate any argument you know for the dark side here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5419">TS</a>]
01:30:27 ◼ ► and think well maybe we don't need net neutrality as soon as that common carrier issue comes up the argument falls to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5427">TS</a>]
01:30:35 ◼ ► pieces and I think anyone who buys videos of his it is quite long. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5435">TS</a>]
01:30:40 ◼ ► Eleven minutes not long by my standards but it's quite long for a You Tube video but if you stick with video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5440">TS</a>]
01:30:46 ◼ ► and get that common carrier part that's a real general killer issue it won't spoil anything here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5446">TS</a>]
01:30:53 ◼ ► but one of the examples she uses which I think is very illustrative is. The airlines are classified as common carriers. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5453">TS</a>]
01:31:02 ◼ ► Yes And what that means is that airline airlines have to sell tickets to just whoever is buying airline tickets they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5462">TS</a>]
01:31:09 ◼ ► not allowed to discriminate against employees of one particular company or another particular company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5469">TS</a>]
01:31:16 ◼ ► and one of the benefits of being a common carrier is that you are not responsible for whatever the people are doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5476">TS</a>]
01:31:25 ◼ ► with your airplane transportation. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5485">TS</a>]
01:31:28 ◼ ► So if people are using your airplane to commit a crime that they're getting from one location to another location that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5488">TS</a>]
01:31:34 ◼ ► they need to you is the airplane company are not responsible for that. Yeah and it's actually really came up from. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5494">TS</a>]
01:31:44 ◼ ► when I was doing so my research was originally that came from telegraph companies in the United States [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5504">TS</a>]
01:31:49 ◼ ► and the whole the whole idea of the common carrier came from there which was that telegraph companies were accepting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5509">TS</a>]
01:32:00 ◼ ► It's that one company was sending [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5520">TS</a>]
01:32:02 ◼ ► and send their messages to their competitor who was paying to hear all of the correspondence that that their their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5522">TS</a>]
01:32:11 ◼ ► So basically leaked paying to wiretap their telegraphs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5531">TS</a>]
01:32:15 ◼ ► and the telecom companies made the argument saying well these are our wires. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5535">TS</a>]
01:32:21 ◼ ► So we built this telegraph network we can do whatever we want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5541">TS</a>]
01:32:24 ◼ ► and if that if that means if someone is willing to pay us to send them a copy of all the communications from particular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5544">TS</a>]
01:32:29 ◼ ► individual if we think that's good business idea we can totally do that right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5549">TS</a>]
01:32:33 ◼ ► And the court stepped in and said no you cannot do that you have to treat all of these messages the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5553">TS</a>]
01:32:40 ◼ ► and that's a very at the very notion of a common carrier. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5560">TS</a>]
01:32:43 ◼ ► And that's that's the same kind of rule to apply to the Internet is to say you are a common carrier of data. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5563">TS</a>]
01:32:50 ◼ ► And one of the benefits of that means that again if people were using the Telegraph to plan their bank robbery you the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5570">TS</a>]
01:32:56 ◼ ► telegraph company are not complicit in that you were not helping them conspire because you have to treat all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5576">TS</a>]
01:33:02 ◼ ► messages the same that's the benefit of you the telegraph company get so it's the common carrier thing is in the come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5582">TS</a>]
01:33:09 ◼ ► in the petitions that we have to the F.C.C. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5589">TS</a>]
01:33:13 ◼ ► You're supposed to use this phrase to say we would like you to classify Internet service service providers as a class [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5593">TS</a>]
01:33:19 ◼ ► two common carrier in the United States which comes with all of these kinds of responsibilities [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5599">TS</a>]
01:33:24 ◼ ► but also these these freedoms from being complicit in what's actually traveling through your network. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5604">TS</a>]
01:33:30 ◼ ► I would think if you're an Internet service provider you know you don't want to be responsible for anything going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5610">TS</a>]
01:33:34 ◼ ► through those pipes because it's just terrifying what people might actually be doing on the Internet. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5614">TS</a>]
01:33:40 ◼ ► So yeah you know they enjoy that enjoy that cloak of protection [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5620">TS</a>]
01:33:43 ◼ ► but I don't want to toe the line in some other aspects of US So yeah yeah that's exactly it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5623">TS</a>]
01:33:49 ◼ ► Well hopefully next time we talk about this we'll be talking about it wasn't as bad as we thought. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5629">TS</a>]
01:34:00 ◼ ► I'm not optimistic is what has what I would say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5640">TS</a>]
01:34:03 ◼ ► but it is because I look at the structure of the way that this was set up. The F.C.C. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5643">TS</a>]
01:34:08 ◼ ► Is not it is not a democratic body. You can't you don't elect people to the F.C.C. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5648">TS</a>]
01:34:16 ◼ ► and you know they don't necessarily have any any meaningful accountability to the general public [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5656">TS</a>]
01:34:25 ◼ ► and so I have a tiny glimmer of hope in that they pre-announced their announcements they said we are going to announce [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5665">TS</a>]
01:34:32 ◼ ► something about the Net Neutrality rulings on the fifteenth. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5672">TS</a>]
01:34:35 ◼ ► Meantime we're opening it up to a public inquiry taking the temperature that that is that is my only glimmer of hope is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5675">TS</a>]
01:34:44 ◼ ► that they wanted to see OK how riled are people going to be about this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5684">TS</a>]
01:34:51 ◼ ► My hope is that they felt there was there was enough Ryle meant to warrant maybe not doing what they were going to do. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5691">TS</a>]
01:34:58 ◼ ► Actually I was tracking I used your el tracker to see how many people clicked on the link in my video to go to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5698">TS</a>]
01:35:03 ◼ ► F.C.C. and Of course I can't know how many people filled in the form which the F.C.C. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5703">TS</a>]
01:35:08 ◼ ► Goes way out of its way to scare you into not doing and it makes it super user unfriendly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5708">TS</a>]
01:35:15 ◼ ► but at the time of the recording about fifty thousand people at least clicked the link in my video to go to the F.C.C. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5715">TS</a>]
01:35:22 ◼ ► Page I reckon one in one hundred best. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5722">TS</a>]
01:35:25 ◼ ► Yeah that's kind of that's slightly My guess is well it may be one in a hundred would fill out the actual form [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5725">TS</a>]
01:35:30 ◼ ► but you know I can't I can't know that I I don't know what the results are but I am not optimistic. I expect the F.C.C. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5730">TS</a>]
01:35:38 ◼ ► To just have some some opening line in their statement about how we really listen to what you said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5738">TS</a>]
01:35:43 ◼ ► and everybody said they wanted a better Internet. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5743">TS</a>]
01:35:45 ◼ ► So our regulation changes today are to encourage a better Internet with new fast lanes for you to get you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5745">TS</a>]
01:35:53 ◼ ► content that you want as fast as it can be delivered and yeah that's that's basically what I expect to do well. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5753">TS</a>]
01:36:00 ◼ ► Next time so I don't I really hope I'm wrong but I'm not optimistic. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5760">TS</a>]
01:36:04 ◼ ► I feel a bit like I didn't give you much of a hard time and make you duck and wave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5764">TS</a>]
01:36:08 ◼ ► but that's because I think this is a no brainer. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5768">TS</a>]
01:36:11 ◼ ► Yeah there is there is no other side to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5771">TS</a>]
01:36:14 ◼ ► and yet And yet it might not work out I work out there are a couple of things off topic though I think we should point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5774">TS</a>]
01:36:22 ◼ ► Yeah I have an admission to make at the end I mean beforehand I wasn't very well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5782">TS</a>]
01:36:27 ◼ ► and oh you know I wasn't feeling one hundred percent but well enough to broadcast them. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5787">TS</a>]
01:36:33 ◼ ► I've never realized of the Court of the whole thing on my printed microphone on the computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5793">TS</a>]
01:36:37 ◼ ► and not my big push microphone I was asking about the microphones in the beginning. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5797">TS</a>]
01:36:44 ◼ ► All right well we have to retroactively apologized to the people for your terrible audio quality then I'm sorry man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5804">TS</a>]
01:36:50 ◼ ► and I was addressing to you as well I feel really bad I like. I realized about fifty minutes ago and. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5810">TS</a>]
01:36:57 ◼ ► If it was really a worry this stuff is bound to happen eventually so sooner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5817">TS</a>]
01:37:01 ◼ ► or later I will I will be doing the whole thing talking into my laptop microphone I'll sound terrible one day so don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5821">TS</a>]
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01:37:12 ◼ ► a ready of my Because well it was the first time I said I'm not doing it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5832">TS</a>]
01:37:15 ◼ ► Yes of course that's when this is going to happen so don't worry. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5835">TS</a>]
01:37:19 ◼ ► It's really no really mad at me and I know that I don't and I don't even understand how I would be mad. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5839">TS</a>]
01:37:25 ◼ ► Gosh I can understand. Can I explain one last thing at that net neutrality as well. Yeah you know what. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5845">TS</a>]
01:37:32 ◼ ► In much the same way I think copyright infringement is the wrong time. I think net neutrality is a bad guy. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5852">TS</a>]
01:37:40 ◼ ► Yeah it's a really it's a I mean it couldn't be a more neutral less provocative to try to see even got the word neutral [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5860">TS</a>]
01:37:51 ◼ ► in that. Yeah they thought that was a mistake by or genius depending on who came up with that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5871">TS</a>]
01:38:00 ◼ ► I'm Stanford came up with that in two thousand to believe but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5880">TS</a>]
01:38:04 ◼ ► and is he is a pro at the neutrality you see against his progeny. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5884">TS</a>]
01:38:08 ◼ ► He is pro net neutrality and I should have called it something different and because well terrible things of Kona. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5888">TS</a>]
01:38:13 ◼ ► Yes but of if I can just just point out I skimmed through the original paper that came across the chart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5893">TS</a>]
01:38:19 ◼ ► and the paper was just a technical paper talking talking about a particular property of certain networks. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5899">TS</a>]
01:38:27 ◼ ► This was well before this ever became a political issue. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5907">TS</a>]
01:38:31 ◼ ► So yeah this was not like someone was trying to coin a term for political debate. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5911">TS</a>]
01:38:37 ◼ ► Someone was just trying to have a useful technical term to describe certain kinds of networks and in that circumstance. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5917">TS</a>]
01:38:44 ◼ ► Net neutrality is is a great term but I completely agree with you and I've been in discussions online [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5924">TS</a>]
01:38:51 ◼ ► and in real life with people I I have found that everybody has a hard time with this term. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5931">TS</a>]
01:38:56 ◼ ► Even people who are technically oriented very easily have run into this issue of M I five for net neutrality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5936">TS</a>]
01:39:04 ◼ ► or am I against net neutrality. And then in my own video if you can. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5944">TS</a>]
01:39:09 ◼ ► I only say Net Neutrality I think three times and both are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5949">TS</a>]
01:39:13 ◼ ► and all the times I very intentionally tried to structure the sentence so that it was super clear that you should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5953">TS</a>]
01:39:23 ◼ ► and It was a video ends with defend net neutrality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5963">TS</a>]
01:39:26 ◼ ► and I think it starts with a you know an important part of the way the Internet works. Net neutrality. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5966">TS</a>]
01:39:32 ◼ ► But for most of the video I went with I was thinking about you know what can I say instead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5972">TS</a>]
01:39:37 ◼ ► and I I was using the term data quality as I was trying to better things a bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5977">TS</a>]
01:39:45 ◼ ► but it's not it's still not as true doesn't grab me by the throat the way that free dating does. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5985">TS</a>]
01:39:50 ◼ ► But well I think there is a better term that was the best I could come up with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5990">TS</a>]
01:39:54 ◼ ► and almost like fair night maybe fairness and I'm not going to happen just slightly here. The more the. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/5994">TS</a>]
01:40:00 ◼ ► About freebooting the less I like it I hate to tell you this morning about three women less alike [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/6000">TS</a>]
01:40:04 ◼ ► and I can't remember who it was because we're just doing this now. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/6004">TS</a>]
01:40:07 ◼ ► But somebody proposed the alternative view jacking which I am the more I think about it I'm way more in favor of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/6007">TS</a>]
01:40:14 ◼ ► and freebooting so I don't I don't think it is sounds too much like some rubbish sort of eighty's maybe I mean I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/6014">TS</a>]
01:40:22 ◼ ► what you're saying and you jackass. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/6022">TS</a>]
01:40:24 ◼ ► I don't mean to split the vote on this just so briefly after you made it into the urban dictionary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/6024">TS</a>]
01:40:30 ◼ ► and we're going to try to get you into the Oxford English Dictionary. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/6030">TS</a>]
01:40:33 ◼ ► But the more I think about it I think freebooting has the same kind of thing which is my fourth freebooting I like free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/6033">TS</a>]
01:40:38 ◼ ► stuff and that net neutrality has which is again like O M I for the neutral thing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/6038">TS</a>]
01:40:44 ◼ ► Nor am I against the neutral thing it is it is not a good term politically and data quality is not the greatest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/6044">TS</a>]
01:40:52 ◼ ► but it's better data not fairness I don't know maybe we can ask the listeners if they're still listening since we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/6052">TS</a>]
01:40:59 ◼ ► just rambling on now what I think would be better than net neutrality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/6059">TS</a>]
01:41:04 ◼ ► and if they can hear what I'm saying on this microphone I apologize apologize gray. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUF06iM/6064">TS</a>]