00:00:00 ◼ ► The more we do the podcast The Bore I think I realize how different we are or what numbers this is this is number six. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/0">TS</a>]
00:00:09 ◼ ► Number six I need to apologize in advance if I sound a bit off my game. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/9">TS</a>]
00:00:14 ◼ ► I know normally you know incredibly shop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/14">TS</a>]
00:00:17 ◼ ► and we say you are you are I might be a bit off because I have been having a lot of sleep lately I have had issues [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/17">TS</a>]
00:00:24 ◼ ► but issues of you that I will tell you about my issues as as briefly as I can. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/24">TS</a>]
00:00:30 ◼ ► I am as you know currently in Berkeley California and I've been staying sort of in a condo I rented a room in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/30">TS</a>]
00:00:42 ◼ ► And it turns out it was an issue because what's going on is the guy who's like renting out this room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/42">TS</a>]
00:00:47 ◼ ► when he hasn't got paying customers like me. He allows these these couch surface that stay for free. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/47">TS</a>]
00:00:53 ◼ ► You know this capsule yessing Rhino Couchsurfing it's a good thing anyway. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/53">TS</a>]
00:00:58 ◼ ► Hey those couch sofas to stay for free which you know isn't the nicest things and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/58">TS</a>]
00:01:03 ◼ ► when you're paying for the place but anyway what he does with his apartment when I'm not there is not my business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/63">TS</a>]
00:01:09 ◼ ► but the problem was when I arrived. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/69">TS</a>]
00:01:12 ◼ ► This caps person was still there and he didn't know the caps if it was still going to be there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/72">TS</a>]
00:01:18 ◼ ► and this particular woman who I would describe as eccentric. Owns three cats and she had the cats staying in the place. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/78">TS</a>]
00:01:30 ◼ ► Now I am not anti cat but this one was out alone and her cats were not particularly controllable. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/90">TS</a>]
00:01:38 ◼ ► She certainly had no control over them and there were three of them in this tiny place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/98">TS</a>]
00:01:42 ◼ ► and so there's a cat litter tray in the kitchen and food everywhere and hair everywhere and cats everywhere. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/102">TS</a>]
00:01:50 ◼ ► So you know I was telling the landlord this probably was an idea on and he was mortified. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/110">TS</a>]
00:01:57 ◼ ► She was basically squatting on his part. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/117">TS</a>]
00:02:00 ◼ ► He sent people around his friends to try and get rid of her and she wouldn't go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/120">TS</a>]
00:02:03 ◼ ► and then she buncoed hisself in the other room with their cats and it was all very awkward. I'd imagine so. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/123">TS</a>]
00:02:10 ◼ ► Anyway to cut a long story to a medium length of she she left eventually Thank goodness took her cats [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/130">TS</a>]
00:02:20 ◼ ► but the problem was obviously before she left. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/140">TS</a>]
00:02:23 ◼ ► During this period where she was bunkered in the room hiding from everything the cats [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/143">TS</a>]
00:02:29 ◼ ► and the cats paid the room where she was staying. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/149">TS</a>]
00:02:33 ◼ ► Now smells unbearably bad really bad luck so I shut and locked it up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/153">TS</a>]
00:02:40 ◼ ► and put blankets at the bottom of the door to sort of seal it perfectly but that the smell was starting to escape [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/160">TS</a>]
00:02:48 ◼ ► and in the middle of last night at two in the morning the smell finally saw really. Tami ated the room I'm sleeping in. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/168">TS</a>]
00:02:57 ◼ ► And so bad that it would be up and I couldn't get back to sleep. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/177">TS</a>]
00:03:02 ◼ ► So I have been kept awake all night by the smell of cat pay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/182">TS</a>]
00:03:08 ◼ ► and SA I come to this podcast now a product of that lack of sleep and what do I gotta ask. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/188">TS</a>]
00:03:16 ◼ ► I ask you kind of day there I mean you're you're in you're in San Francisco for like a month aren't you. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/196">TS</a>]
00:03:25 ◼ ► Yeah well the got the land that was really nice but I don't care about the land. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/205">TS</a>]
00:03:30 ◼ ► What if that could not be more relevant. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/210">TS</a>]
00:03:33 ◼ ► Or for at level it's real name and the place is no less telling me about how do I put it I want to hear more. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/213">TS</a>]
00:03:43 ◼ ► Something like they're decorating figured right except for the getting everyone to leave the location is excellent. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/223">TS</a>]
00:03:55 ◼ ► So I'm giving him a day or two to get a professional cleaner in and also on. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/235">TS</a>]
00:04:00 ◼ ► Really lazy and I don't want to repack and you know I have to find a new place and move with all my bags and my kit. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/240">TS</a>]
00:04:08 ◼ ► Your reaction to this whole situation could not be more different from what my reaction. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/248">TS</a>]
00:04:12 ◼ ► Oh yeah I'm sorry to hear about your cat pee troubles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/252">TS</a>]
00:04:17 ◼ ► but it seems like you're not doing a whole lot to extricate yourself from the equation. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/257">TS</a>]
00:04:22 ◼ ► Now that I said I want to move your bags and now that I know now that I said at last I say that it sounds silly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/262">TS</a>]
00:04:30 ◼ ► but from my perspective of living with my follow up from the last episode which I believe was about was about all sorts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/270">TS</a>]
00:04:39 ◼ ► of things as usual it was about advertising clutter in the house funnily enough. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/279">TS</a>]
00:04:43 ◼ ► Yes there was a bit of that if rebooting in there is where you have anything to do with any things you particularly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/283">TS</a>]
00:04:48 ◼ ► came to follow up I've probably talked enough. Yes Well the first the first thing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/288">TS</a>]
00:04:53 ◼ ► Then I want to follow up is talking about reviews that we have gotten so i Tunes of use that people have left [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/293">TS</a>]
00:05:00 ◼ ► and so I was checking this afternoon and I made a little spreadsheet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/300">TS</a>]
00:05:05 ◼ ► and so at the beginning of episode five I think we had four new countries that had left reviews last time for this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/305">TS</a>]
00:05:13 ◼ ► episode. We actually have a bunch one of the new countries or is it to them the least safe you've been to any. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/313">TS</a>]
00:05:18 ◼ ► OK here we are some I'm going to run down. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/318">TS</a>]
00:05:21 ◼ ► and this is of as of this morning so in alphabetical order they are Brazil Chile Colombia Croatia the Czech Republic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/321">TS</a>]
00:05:30 ◼ ► the Dominican Republic France Hong Kong Hungary Iceland India Latvia Lithuania Luxembourg Malaysia New Zealand Portugal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/330">TS</a>]
00:05:39 ◼ ► Romania Russia Singapore Slovakia South Africa South Korea Spain Taiwan Thailand Turkey United Arab Emirates Venezuela [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/339">TS</a>]
00:05:50 ◼ ► So I think that is an incredibly impressive showing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/350">TS</a>]
00:05:54 ◼ ► and I just want to thank all of the listeners who left i Tunes of use in those various countries I was having. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/354">TS</a>]
00:06:00 ◼ ► Well I've done written reviews of it it's like given a five star or three star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/360">TS</a>]
00:06:04 ◼ ► or thank you written stuff so i Tunes can sit if people leave a star review so that just counts as as star views they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/364">TS</a>]
00:06:14 ◼ ► are not all written reviews but I have to say almost all of them are written reviews. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/374">TS</a>]
00:06:18 ◼ ► We have we have a great ratio of people who will be written reviews versus star view so yeah I just I was quite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/378">TS</a>]
00:06:24 ◼ ► impressed and I just want to thank all of our listeners [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/384">TS</a>]
00:06:26 ◼ ► and it's very cool just seeing that that people write in from all of these various places [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/386">TS</a>]
00:06:30 ◼ ► and they may tell you let me say thank you as well thank you. It's amazing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/390">TS</a>]
00:06:35 ◼ ► Yeah they go through and leave very nice reviews. So yeah very impressive. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/395">TS</a>]
00:06:41 ◼ ► and I was particularly out of all those countries so I'm going to pick one out to talk about just a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/401">TS</a>]
00:06:47 ◼ ► but I was very happy to see that we had Iceland there. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/407">TS</a>]
00:06:51 ◼ ► Iceland was the least populous of the bunch of countries that left reviews they have three hundred twenty one thousand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/411">TS</a>]
00:06:58 ◼ ► people and we got a review from there. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/418">TS</a>]
00:07:00 ◼ ► And I'm very I was very happy to see that because I actually went to Iceland for a trip with my wife a while back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/420">TS</a>]
00:07:09 ◼ ► when we were newly married and it was just one of my favorite trips that I ever took the country was just beautiful. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/429">TS</a>]
00:07:15 ◼ ► And we did a road trip that went around the whole exterior of the island and it was just amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/435">TS</a>]
00:07:21 ◼ ► and if I'm ever fortunate enough to have the chance I will totally love to go back to Iceland at some point so did you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/441">TS</a>]
00:07:28 ◼ ► No we didn't go into the interior that I think might maybe again if I get to go again we might do a trip sort of across [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/448">TS</a>]
00:07:35 ◼ ► the island going into the interior I don't know have you been to Iceland I have no I really want to go. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/455">TS</a>]
00:07:42 ◼ ► I've been reading a lot about it lately too because I've been reading all these chess books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/462">TS</a>]
00:07:45 ◼ ► and obviously the the Bobby Fischer bar Spassky sort of you know the century was was held in Iceland [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/465">TS</a>]
00:07:51 ◼ ► and Bobby Fischer ended up in Iceland as well so he isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/471">TS</a>]
00:07:56 ◼ ► and he has a big association with a country which is for fear that my in. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/476">TS</a>]
00:08:01 ◼ ► Well I've not been I've not been Everyone is beautiful and I will just I will say one of the thing about Iceland. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/481">TS</a>]
00:08:06 ◼ ► There seems to be per capita an unusual amount of artistic creativity that comes from Iceland. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/486">TS</a>]
00:08:14 ◼ ► So there are a lot of bands that are from Iceland that are unusually good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/494">TS</a>]
00:08:19 ◼ ► and on Flickr for example it's a photography website some of the some of the most amazing photographer as you're ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/499">TS</a>]
00:08:26 ◼ ► going to come across they're all from Iceland partly because they have amazing things to photograph [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/506">TS</a>]
00:08:30 ◼ ► but the technical quality of their photos are so great and it comes up all the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/510">TS</a>]
00:08:34 ◼ ► and I wonder if this is a byproduct of there's so far north you have a lot of time during the winter to try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/514">TS</a>]
00:08:42 ◼ ► and perfect your craft and you don't have a lot of distractions so I wonder people are indoors you know working on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/522">TS</a>]
00:08:49 ◼ ► and thinking about their own particular hobbies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/529">TS</a>]
00:08:51 ◼ ► and creative pursuits because it seems like an unusually creative company country per capita anyway. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/531">TS</a>]
00:08:58 ◼ ► So Iceland I have a lot of positive feelings for them. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/538">TS</a>]
00:09:01 ◼ ► This episode of kind of instant was brought to you by the Iceland Tourism Commission. Yes. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/541">TS</a>]
00:09:06 ◼ ► I have a gray like correction to make and I do you wouldn't normally do this but I thought it would just appeal to me. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/546">TS</a>]
00:09:13 ◼ ► I'm I'm I'm very intrigued in the previous episode I referred to a Mr Johnny fingers from the Boomtown Rats who I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/553">TS</a>]
00:09:22 ◼ ► met a few times at a Japanese music festival and I referred to him I believe as an Englishman he is of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/562">TS</a>]
00:09:28 ◼ ► and very obviously Irish That's bout braiding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/568">TS</a>]
00:09:33 ◼ ► and that is bad especially someone you know Irish heritage like myself so I apologize for this mistake. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/573">TS</a>]
00:09:41 ◼ ► I realized very soon afterwards I thought maybe I'd get away with it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/581">TS</a>]
00:09:45 ◼ ► Someone did pointed out on the red Ugandan apologies. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/585">TS</a>]
00:09:52 ◼ ► I'm glad you've corrected your error and that's the way you'd like that. You love that kind of stuff. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/592">TS</a>]
00:09:57 ◼ ► I appreciate that you took the time to say. The record straight. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/597">TS</a>]
00:10:01 ◼ ► Yeah and you got another follow up of a couple here where we have clatter on the house. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/601">TS</a>]
00:10:09 ◼ ► Yeah I thought I thought that was an interesting discussion we had last time this was obviously the fact that you sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/609">TS</a>]
00:10:15 ◼ ► of despised objects and trinkets and items in the house and I remember thinking at the time to myself. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/615">TS</a>]
00:10:22 ◼ ► As the conversation unfolded everything that was said just made you sound like the cool man of the future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/622">TS</a>]
00:10:28 ◼ ► and this sort of high tech amazing person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/628">TS</a>]
00:10:32 ◼ ► and made me sound like some weird holding person who probably walks around the streets with plastic bags full of junk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/632">TS</a>]
00:10:39 ◼ ► and I found it very refreshing in the comments on the subway which is obviously very skewed towards you because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/639">TS</a>]
00:10:47 ◼ ► your separate I thought this was going to sort of this was going to be the tone of the conversation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/647">TS</a>]
00:10:53 ◼ ► and I've found it very refreshing how many people thought you were the crazy one what I would say to that is yes there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/653">TS</a>]
00:10:57 ◼ ► was there was definitely a whole bunch of agreement agreement with you that I sound a little bit crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/657">TS</a>]
00:11:05 ◼ ► but I still I still defend my position. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/665">TS</a>]
00:11:11 ◼ ► and been doing this on the Twitter as well were directing me toward the minimalism section of Reddit says there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/671">TS</a>]
00:11:18 ◼ ► whole subsection for discussions about minimalism [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/678">TS</a>]
00:11:22 ◼ ► and I would not say that I am I just to be clear people are not like a minimalist. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/682">TS</a>]
00:11:27 ◼ ► I would I would think that I am more just a functionalist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/687">TS</a>]
00:11:31 ◼ ► but I don't like objects that aren't doing something in the house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/691">TS</a>]
00:11:36 ◼ ► or serving some kind of purpose if you know if it's just if it's just there. I don't know. I don't like them. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/696">TS</a>]
00:11:43 ◼ ► I was complaining about on Twitter earlier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/703">TS</a>]
00:11:45 ◼ ► and I was I was tweeting some pictures of some houses that were beautiful houses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/705">TS</a>]
00:11:49 ◼ ► but they're just filled with pointless stuff like a decorative horn on a table or like plants all over the place. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/709">TS</a>]
00:12:00 ◼ ► Especially fake plants all over the place when you tweet us so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/720">TS</a>]
00:12:05 ◼ ► when you tweeted where you said beautiful has accomplished how they ruined it with all the clutter. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/725">TS</a>]
00:12:10 ◼ ► Yeah so I went had a look at the pictures and there wasn't that much stuff in it. Oh no now but I was pretty spartan. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/730">TS</a>]
00:12:17 ◼ ► Now OK you know what is making me angry. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/737">TS</a>]
00:12:20 ◼ ► OK So people are going to put a link to this thing I'm going to put a link to this thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/740">TS</a>]
00:12:24 ◼ ► and I'm not saying it was like or what what was it did have stuff and don't get me wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/744">TS</a>]
00:12:28 ◼ ► but it wasn't I was expecting it to be one of those you know a T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/748">TS</a>]
00:12:31 ◼ ► Show a documentary house from hell up to the ceiling with rubbish in it which is sad to see subjects' I'm seriously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/751">TS</a>]
00:12:38 ◼ ► thinking of during the the invite that I've extended to you to come to my new place. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/758">TS</a>]
00:12:43 ◼ ► I don't I don't think you'll be able to handle it again I haven't even got that much stuff. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/763">TS</a>]
00:12:47 ◼ ► Well if you forget I was in your old house and although you forget I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/767">TS</a>]
00:12:51 ◼ ► when I'm looking at these things I'm judging them by the standard of would I want to live there and so I don't. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/771">TS</a>]
00:12:56 ◼ ► When I go into somebody else's home I'm not thinking God look at all that person's stuff because I'm not in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/776">TS</a>]
00:13:02 ◼ ► mindset of what I live in this person's house but I'm visiting somebody else's house it's totally different. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/782">TS</a>]
00:13:07 ◼ ► So you're saying you wouldn't have lived in my house I would. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/787">TS</a>]
00:13:10 ◼ ► Well about the way not the way you had Decker has had now I would not have lived in your house to a project that I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/790">TS</a>]
00:13:15 ◼ ► sorry to you and the Mrs. But no if I lived I would decorate all the differently but I put up a link to that place. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/795">TS</a>]
00:13:24 ◼ ► So there's there's a half asses left your house is lovely. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/804">TS</a>]
00:13:30 ◼ ► but it's a different question of what I decorate your house the way that is created I would not. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/810">TS</a>]
00:13:34 ◼ ► OK Anyway people I'm going to put a link in the description to the show that you can go look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/814">TS</a>]
00:13:39 ◼ ► and it's that the interior of the house which I think is beautiful because I like the textures so I don't actually like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/819">TS</a>]
00:13:46 ◼ ► empty white rooms for various reason that I don't like being in a place that is all white so this house has like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/826">TS</a>]
00:13:52 ◼ ► gorgeous mountain views and the walls are stone in the floor is wood and it's beautiful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/832">TS</a>]
00:13:57 ◼ ► but I'm just looking at these pictures and. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/837">TS</a>]
00:14:00 ◼ ► They just have like a dead tree branch that's acting as ornaments in one location. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/840">TS</a>]
00:14:05 ◼ ► There's this twisted horn on a table that serves absolutely no purpose. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/845">TS</a>]
00:14:11 ◼ ► There's gross just it's like I have a plan and affecting the cats [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/851">TS</a>]
00:14:14 ◼ ► and the heritage of the place you have for us because now they have this horrible like Crystal lamp that just ruins [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/854">TS</a>]
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00:16:30 ◼ ► sports commentary. Finally And that's probably the best in the world I think. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/990">TS</a>]
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00:24:56 ◼ ► I have been kind of following the news with Tesla for a while because both I think that their company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/1496">TS</a>]
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00:27:12 ◼ ► in improving battery technology maybe there are ways they can work together to solve this problem. But. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/1632">TS</a>]
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00:27:26 ◼ ► and it does seem like like the design of these companies might be somewhat compatible and yeah. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/1646">TS</a>]
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00:27:40 ◼ ► I don't worry about the cuff like an Apple product in some ways I don't know I know that's controversial thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/1660">TS</a>]
00:27:47 ◼ ► and people get upset. Yeah Apple just came out with their their car O.-S. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/1667">TS</a>]
00:27:53 ◼ ► This week as well so you know I have some of that read about the the other thing I want to talk to you. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/1673">TS</a>]
00:28:00 ◼ ► In this context of what's been going on with me was we mentioned I was in Berkeley [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/1680">TS</a>]
00:28:05 ◼ ► and you even said yourself you're in San Francisco. Yeah I did. What's this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/1685">TS</a>]
00:28:13 ◼ ► Where do you stand on the situation where you and I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/1693">TS</a>]
00:28:16 ◼ ► and out sometimes it depends on how far away you are from the place. But let people in. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/1696">TS</a>]
00:28:20 ◼ ► I consider myself to be in San Francisco you know I look out the window and the Golden Gate Bridge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/1700">TS</a>]
00:28:25 ◼ ► and the big pyramid building and and the bay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/1705">TS</a>]
00:28:28 ◼ ► but everyone here refers to Berkeley like it's completely removed from San Francisco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/1708">TS</a>]
00:28:35 ◼ ► but I would never say San Francisco. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/1715">TS</a>]
00:28:39 ◼ ► and I know this is true in lots of different places to me like people like to sort of consider themselves to have this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/1719">TS</a>]
00:28:45 ◼ ► different identity. Well this is this is called the narcissism of small differences right which is. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/1725">TS</a>]
00:28:54 ◼ ► First I first came across as I remember in college right where I discovered. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/1734">TS</a>]
00:28:59 ◼ ► If you're talking to random people you're likely to get into an argument. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/1739">TS</a>]
00:29:03 ◼ ► You get into arguments with two kinds of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/1743">TS</a>]
00:29:06 ◼ ► and they're the people who are on the opposite end of the spectrum from you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/1746">TS</a>]
00:29:11 ◼ ► and so I was doing physics at college like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/1751">TS</a>]
00:29:14 ◼ ► and you get into some argument with like an art major If you're a physics major about something. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/1754">TS</a>]
00:29:20 ◼ ► but then the other people that you have arguments with more intense arguments are the people who are close to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/1760">TS</a>]
00:29:30 ◼ ► And so like the most intense argument ever would happen between the physicists [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/1770">TS</a>]
00:29:35 ◼ ► and the chemists like you're both like this hard for that there's a system the quantum physicist Yeah yeah I like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/1775">TS</a>]
00:29:42 ◼ ► and so I think that that's the same kind of thing that that from an outsider's perspective like if you're an English [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/1782">TS</a>]
00:29:52 ◼ ► and something like that the difference between different hard science specialists is like kind of irrelevant from your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/1792">TS</a>]
00:29:59 ◼ ► perspective. It doesn't really matter. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/1799">TS</a>]
00:30:02 ◼ ► Like oh they're just science majors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/1802">TS</a>]
00:30:03 ◼ ► and like oh no no no I'm not a science major right I'm a physics major This is incredibly important to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/1803">TS</a>]
00:30:08 ◼ ► and so it's just a matter of perspective and so for me as someone who doesn't live near the San Francisco area [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/1808">TS</a>]
00:30:17 ◼ ► and has been to the San Francisco area four times in my life maybe you know it twice was for those very brief You Tube [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/1817">TS</a>]
00:30:28 ◼ ► If you made me sit down and think about it I would probably recognize that Berkeley is not San Francisco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/1828">TS</a>]
00:30:35 ◼ ► but since I'm not from there this distinction is not as important or or as as as foremost in my mind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/1835">TS</a>]
00:30:44 ◼ ► I know very consciously like everything from Mountain View up to San Francisco in my brain is just San Francisco even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/1844">TS</a>]
00:30:53 ◼ ► though I know those are those are different places to the people who live there are so the other thing I wanted to ask [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/1853">TS</a>]
00:30:59 ◼ ► you about is just more to just sort of gauge American knowledge of these things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/1859">TS</a>]
00:31:05 ◼ ► and that is universities because I also went to Princeton. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/1865">TS</a>]
00:31:10 ◼ ► It was like the middle of nowhere girl who was trying a new in New York and the middle a New Jersey for two hours [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/1870">TS</a>]
00:31:16 ◼ ► and then changed into this other little poodle in training up to this little place and that and there was Princeton [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/1876">TS</a>]
00:31:22 ◼ ► and I didn't really you know Princeton's one of these places you know the name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/1882">TS</a>]
00:31:27 ◼ ► and maybe you know it's in New Jersey I think maybe probably a lot of people don't you don't know where these places [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/1887">TS</a>]
00:31:33 ◼ ► and I think Berkeley hike you know probably for a long time as well as a lot of people probably know the name Berkeley [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/1893">TS</a>]
00:31:40 ◼ ► but might not know that is you know sort of in San Francisco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/1900">TS</a>]
00:31:44 ◼ ► and there are all these famous universities with these names that don't really give away where they are the way the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/1904">TS</a>]
00:31:50 ◼ ► University of Nottingham where it is yeah you know Cambridge Oxford Yeah yeah so diminished. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/1910">TS</a>]
00:32:00 ◼ ► Americans who are obviously more familiar with the university system immediately know where all these places [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/1920">TS</a>]
00:32:07 ◼ ► I'm I still learning or do you think a lot of Americans also are a bit in the dark as to where these places actually. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/1927">TS</a>]
00:32:13 ◼ ► I am not sure that I could speak for most Americans here I mean you hear about the Ivy League you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/1933">TS</a>]
00:32:19 ◼ ► and as the top tier universities and even off the top my head I couldn't name all the universities in the Ivy League [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/1939">TS</a>]
00:32:26 ◼ ► and I know there is one funny one is the Ivy League. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/1946">TS</a>]
00:32:32 ◼ ► You think of Ivy League having to do with like the top universities [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/1952">TS</a>]
00:32:35 ◼ ► but the Ivy League actually has something to do with something else. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/1955">TS</a>]
00:32:39 ◼ ► A slick sports team related that sounds like a great video. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/1959">TS</a>]
00:32:46 ◼ ► So I guess I would say that that and here is here's my biases rightly so I grew up in New York and so obviously. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/1966">TS</a>]
00:32:55 ◼ ► The East Coast of the United States is the best coast of the United States because that's that's where I'm from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/1975">TS</a>]
00:33:00 ◼ ► and so I get tons of these universities and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/1980">TS</a>]
00:33:03 ◼ ► when you hear like I mean you think of of names of famous university have like like this Harvard is Cornell there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/1983">TS</a>]
00:33:09 ◼ ► Columbia you've got Yale you know all of these places in my whole brain right it's like oh yeah all of those are some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/1989">TS</a>]
00:33:17 ◼ ► places they're just on the east coast somewhere. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/1997">TS</a>]
00:33:21 ◼ ► Because obviously the East Coast is awesome and it has all the best schools and Berkeley is like that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2001">TS</a>]
00:33:27 ◼ ► I only know the Berkeley that quote in San Francisco because that was the one that was just the odd ball out from my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2007">TS</a>]
00:33:33 ◼ ► experience is like oh yeah and there's Berkeley but it's all the way over there in California right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2013">TS</a>]
00:33:39 ◼ ► Whereas I just know that all of these other awesome universities are very eagerly around where I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2019">TS</a>]
00:33:45 ◼ ► and I don't know too specifically exactly where they are distinctly I feel like it's not I was anyway. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2025">TS</a>]
00:33:51 ◼ ► No I don't I don't I don't think it is Ivy League. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2031">TS</a>]
00:33:53 ◼ ► Again I think the Ivy League is a weird you know get up and think this public is what I think. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2033">TS</a>]
00:34:00 ◼ ► It's got this huge for stage I think it's a different classification as well. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2040">TS</a>]
00:34:04 ◼ ► Yes but you know so that we could Pedia the source of all human knowledge. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2044">TS</a>]
00:34:09 ◼ ► Yes the Ivy League is a collegiate athletic conference composed of sports teams from private institutions of higher [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2049">TS</a>]
00:34:16 ◼ ► education in the northeastern United States. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2056">TS</a>]
00:34:19 ◼ ► And yeah it's brown Columbia Cornell Dartmouth Harvard Princeton the one that I was thinking of is the odd one out in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2059">TS</a>]
00:34:28 ◼ ► my mind is University of Pennsylvania and Yale University. The P.D. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2068">TS</a>]
00:34:36 ◼ ► At the very next sentence is the term Ivy League has also has connotations of academic excellence selectivity in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2076">TS</a>]
00:34:43 ◼ ► admissions and social elite ism. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2083">TS</a>]
00:34:46 ◼ ► So there we go that's what we could B.D.'s today about the Ivy League enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2086">TS</a>]
00:34:50 ◼ ► but so anyway I don't know about most Americans but all I know is the East Coast is awesome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2090">TS</a>]
00:34:55 ◼ ► and that's why the school that there are different I do find the knowledge of where I know we've discussed this before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2095">TS</a>]
00:35:03 ◼ ► personally but I find it really fascinating about people's knowledge or lack of knowledge about where things are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2103">TS</a>]
00:35:09 ◼ ► and it happens you know on the worst of all what happened happened to me a few weeks ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2109">TS</a>]
00:35:15 ◼ ► when I was looking at a map of San Francisco and I saw San Quentin prison. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2115">TS</a>]
00:35:20 ◼ ► And I've heard of San Quentin and knew that it was his famous prison [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2120">TS</a>]
00:35:23 ◼ ► but I didn't actually have a thought about what it was and before then I would've known it was in San Francisco. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2123">TS</a>]
00:35:30 ◼ ► Something would've guessed either so it's amazing that there are lots of places that you are very familiar with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2130">TS</a>]
00:35:37 ◼ ► and seem really familiar to you and if someone ever says Do you know where that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2137">TS</a>]
00:35:41 ◼ ► or could you point to on a map I think a lot of people would get found. Not that it matters. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2141">TS</a>]
00:35:46 ◼ ► You got a point on a map but I think it's useful. Yes Probably something should be evident. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2146">TS</a>]
00:35:51 ◼ ► but it's always this is always the issue of what you were saying before that the relative difference is for the people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2151">TS</a>]
00:35:57 ◼ ► who are in a place vs the people who are not a player. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2157">TS</a>]
00:36:00 ◼ ► In that place and so you know speaking of East Coast West Coast thing my wife sort of grew up in both Hawaii [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2160">TS</a>]
00:36:12 ◼ ► and so from her perspective all she knows about the East Coast is to say like oh it's all those little States over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2172">TS</a>]
00:36:19 ◼ ► there and fighting is incorrect everything infuriating because I'm from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2179">TS</a>]
00:36:26 ◼ ► and so I know the geography of the East Coast very well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2186">TS</a>]
00:36:29 ◼ ► and I you know as a family we went to all of these different places [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2189">TS</a>]
00:36:33 ◼ ► and it's the same it's just like the Burt Berkeley San Francisco thing writing like are you telling me Connecticut is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2193">TS</a>]
00:36:39 ◼ ► anything at all like Massachusetts good like if you are wrong rightly these places are totally different. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2199">TS</a>]
00:36:46 ◼ ► and don't even bring up Maine like Maine might as well be a different country if you're talking about New York versus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2206">TS</a>]
00:36:52 ◼ ► Maine like what do you mean they're all just a bunch of little States over there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2212">TS</a>]
00:36:56 ◼ ► and they're all kind of the same is like they're totally different places. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2216">TS</a>]
00:37:00 ◼ ► but like again I can I can appreciate that to somebody who spent a lot of time in like Oregon Oregon is huge compared [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2220">TS</a>]
00:37:10 ◼ ► to Rhode Island and so it just it all depends on where you're from and what matters to you in that location [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2230">TS</a>]
00:37:18 ◼ ► and you can expect. People elsewhere in the whole wide world to to know these things. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2238">TS</a>]
00:37:25 ◼ ► This brings up one thing that I've always found an interesting exercise to do with students that I used to teach [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2245">TS</a>]
00:37:33 ◼ ► and they really like this is a bunch of English kids which was the name the fifty American states game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2253">TS</a>]
00:37:41 ◼ ► and American kids always knew I was American [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2261">TS</a>]
00:37:45 ◼ ► and if I just had some time to kill in a lesson I would sometimes do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2265">TS</a>]
00:37:49 ◼ ► and the kids were always really interested in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2269">TS</a>]
00:37:51 ◼ ► and the thing that I found most interesting was how often they would instead of naming States they would name. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2271">TS</a>]
00:38:00 ◼ ► Prominent cities and think they were States and so this will happen all the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2280">TS</a>]
00:38:04 ◼ ► and I'm asking people in fifty states and I would get answers like Chicago Dallas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2284">TS</a>]
00:38:11 ◼ ► and like that I think is very interesting just to get a little perspective on like what do people know about America [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2291">TS</a>]
00:38:21 ◼ ► and again it is not reasonable to expect a sixteen year old English boy to be able to name all of the fifty states [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2301">TS</a>]
00:38:28 ◼ ► and it's more just an interesting exercise to see like what has he heard of that might plausibly be a state. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2308">TS</a>]
00:38:35 ◼ ► Yeah that's why I always like doing I mean that's not just kids on our loads of adults in fact I'm sure if I was put on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2315">TS</a>]
00:38:40 ◼ ► the spot for long enough I could even fall into that trap but I know it's about ups and Chicago is not a state [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2320">TS</a>]
00:38:46 ◼ ► but I mean that's the common people of all ages. Got any videos coming anytime soon. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2326">TS</a>]
00:38:55 ◼ ► Well I think I've settled on the topic for my next video but it will it will not be out anytime soon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2335">TS</a>]
00:39:06 ◼ ► and that's partly because of the move that I mentioned last time that I'm still not where the hell's my Yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2346">TS</a>]
00:39:12 ◼ ► but I think I've settled on the topic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2352">TS</a>]
00:39:15 ◼ ► but I don't think that soon people I'll ask you what the topic is Wimmer affair because you probably won't tell me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2355">TS</a>]
00:39:22 ◼ ► either just so the listeners don't feel like you're missing out on something he won't tell me either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2362">TS</a>]
00:39:27 ◼ ► but I ask you Can you can ask me but that's true. I will not tell you. What are we going to talk about today. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2367">TS</a>]
00:39:35 ◼ ► We have got a topic as something something you suggested I know you're on Twitter asking the listeners for suggestions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2375">TS</a>]
00:39:41 ◼ ► what if we settled on the I was asking people for suggestions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2381">TS</a>]
00:39:43 ◼ ► and it is partly because I'm still not confident that we're going to make it to ten. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2383">TS</a>]
00:39:48 ◼ ► Some very nervous about picking topics but when I retired I spent ten minutes talking about Cat pay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2388">TS</a>]
00:39:53 ◼ ► and I think we're going to struggle to come up with ten topics yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2393">TS</a>]
00:39:55 ◼ ► but I hope to God that's never our topic in the future like really going to be you know scraping the bottom. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2395">TS</a>]
00:40:00 ◼ ► At the barrel I think I thought maybe people would be interested in a little bit is how we deal with email [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2400">TS</a>]
00:40:08 ◼ ► and it's partly that's been on my mind precisely because of the move so I've been in our new flat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2408">TS</a>]
00:40:19 ◼ ► and my gracious wife has been arranging all kinds of people to come to the flat like setting up the gas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2419">TS</a>]
00:40:26 ◼ ► or setting up the Internet or you know delivering furniture or installing something or having it taken out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2426">TS</a>]
00:40:32 ◼ ► and so my days have been very very interrupted Bolen very broken up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2432">TS</a>]
00:40:39 ◼ ► and so I know on days like that OK I don't even try to do something like work on a script for the next video because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2439">TS</a>]
00:40:46 ◼ ► need to block out chunks of time to do something like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2446">TS</a>]
00:40:49 ◼ ► and so the past two days in a row in particular I've been just doing literally in hell all day long. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2449">TS</a>]
00:40:56 ◼ ► Both days and so that's why it's it has it has been on my mind is as potentially something to talk about. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2456">TS</a>]
00:41:04 ◼ ► And yes so it's a mini mouse and it's one of the pains of my existence and so why is it the bane of your existence. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2464">TS</a>]
00:41:14 ◼ ► Well what makes a comeback because I get so much of it or the volume of it is what just makes you sad. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2474">TS</a>]
00:41:22 ◼ ► Yeah I guess that's. And also I guess you know I really like creating things. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2482">TS</a>]
00:41:28 ◼ ► Replying and dealing with a mouse is not a particularly creative endeavor. Is is more of a chore you know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2488">TS</a>]
00:41:39 ◼ ► Quite often I'll think of a whole bunch of things that require a mouse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2499">TS</a>]
00:41:43 ◼ ► and then I think maybe I'm just going to add a quick number five. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2503">TS</a>]
00:41:47 ◼ ► I don't have a period of video I want to cut and then I had to leave him alone because then I'm making something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2507">TS</a>]
00:41:53 ◼ ► and I was going to do you have like a ballpark for how many emails you get a day any idea you know I don't. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2513">TS</a>]
00:42:00 ◼ ► I I guess people who follow both of us on Twitter if there are any such people that have done so for a long time we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2520">TS</a>]
00:42:07 ◼ ► know that we have bit of a running joke that I am US I sometime partly because of volume [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2527">TS</a>]
00:42:13 ◼ ► but also because it just annoys you because you're so organized. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2533">TS</a>]
00:42:16 ◼ ► My times I sometimes will screen grab the little red badge showing how many unread emails I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2536">TS</a>]
00:42:24 ◼ ► and just message it to you or send it to just because it infuriate you to see my lack of organization [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2544">TS</a>]
00:42:29 ◼ ► but those numbers are you know I obviously have been in the hundreds of thousands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2549">TS</a>]
00:42:34 ◼ ► but that is a number that incorporates you know some emails from You Tube as well. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2554">TS</a>]
00:42:39 ◼ ► Automatic stuff that would be cheating I don't get hundreds of thousands but I would guess I easily get. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2559">TS</a>]
00:42:49 ◼ ► Fifty to sixty eighty miles a day that probably in a perfect world would require my attention [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2569">TS</a>]
00:43:00 ◼ ► but they don't get my attention. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2580">TS</a>]
00:43:03 ◼ ► Yeah that was kind of the ballpark I was trying to look at the couple previous days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2583">TS</a>]
00:43:09 ◼ ► and that's the same for me fifty to maybe a hundred e-mails a day. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2589">TS</a>]
00:43:15 ◼ ► But again in a perfect world I would require some kind of response. Yeah. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2595">TS</a>]
00:43:21 ◼ ► And my archive I was just looking it up now because I've been keeping all my emails and G. Mail for a long time. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2601">TS</a>]
00:43:29 ◼ ► I have nine gigabytes worth of e-mail in my G. Mail archives some some enormous amount of actual individual messages. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2609">TS</a>]
00:43:42 ◼ ► And yes your endless list of unread emails just in future can be sometimes treated to me with that little bad because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2622">TS</a>]
00:43:51 ◼ ► cannot I cannot possibly live like that but I think email is different from all of the others because Lisa. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2631">TS</a>]
00:44:00 ◼ ► On something like Twitter one of the reasons I really like Twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2640">TS</a>]
00:44:02 ◼ ► and I'm very active on Twitter is it doesn't feel like there is the same kind of social expectation that the person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2642">TS</a>]
00:44:10 ◼ ► you're tweeting at is going to reply to you you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2650">TS</a>]
00:44:14 ◼ ► and so there are there are tons of people that I follow on Twitter who I tweet at them when they say something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2654">TS</a>]
00:44:20 ◼ ► and I have no expectation that they're going to reply back you know because they're just they're more popular than I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2660">TS</a>]
00:44:26 ◼ ► or you know or they're just I know they're very busy people. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2666">TS</a>]
00:44:30 ◼ ► Which raises the question about why we tweet in the first place but I think that that's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2670">TS</a>]
00:44:34 ◼ ► and that's a nice thing about Twitter is that from both ends you know the person receiving the tweets is not under a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2674">TS</a>]
00:44:41 ◼ ► kind of social obligation to reply to each individual one. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2681">TS</a>]
00:44:46 ◼ ► And then you can also just message at people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2686">TS</a>]
00:44:49 ◼ ► and you don't have the expectation that they're going to reply so I think that that's good whereas with e-mail I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2689">TS</a>]
00:44:54 ◼ ► the expectation is much higher that you're going to get a response [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2694">TS</a>]
00:45:00 ◼ ► and that I think is why e-mail is partially much more problematic because the sender has a greater expectation that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2700">TS</a>]
00:45:10 ◼ ► Yeah and so and that's why I think it's left over from letters emails are still formatted like letters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2710">TS</a>]
00:45:18 ◼ ► and I think about this a lot of the times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2718">TS</a>]
00:45:20 ◼ ► when I'm sending e-mail messages especially with people I communicate with regular the is is the point at which you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2720">TS</a>]
00:45:26 ◼ ► start to drop the salutation and the goodbye and the end. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2726">TS</a>]
00:45:31 ◼ ► Right because at some point you realize I know who I'm sending this to. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2731">TS</a>]
00:45:37 ◼ ► THEY KNOW WHO THEY ARE THEY KNOW WHO I AM It says my name in the top. I don't need to sign this like it's a letter. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2737">TS</a>]
00:45:45 ◼ ► But if I'm emailing someone who I have never contacted before I will always write it you know dear professor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2745">TS</a>]
00:45:52 ◼ ► and then sign it with my name on the bottom so the e-mails in this funny world where it's still kind of feels like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2752">TS</a>]
00:46:00 ◼ ► And so that's why I think there it is more troublesome because there is this expectation of reply [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2760">TS</a>]
00:46:05 ◼ ► and the expectations there. Yeah. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2765">TS</a>]
00:46:10 ◼ ► Explanations that well meant so right this is where I may come off as just like a total jerk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2770">TS</a>]
00:46:20 ◼ ► but it is just the realities of being in this position is that I reply basically to probably less than one percent of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2780">TS</a>]
00:46:30 ◼ ► the of the e-mail messages that I actually get. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2790">TS</a>]
00:46:33 ◼ ► I very much scheduled my e-mail in a particular way and this is how my system works just to preface how this happens. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2793">TS</a>]
00:46:45 ◼ ► People may be familiar with a system basically using something called in bank zero. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2805">TS</a>]
00:46:49 ◼ ► I'll find a link for the show notes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2809">TS</a>]
00:46:52 ◼ ► but there is a sort of Internet famous talk done by a guy called Merlin Mann at Google a number of years ago talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2812">TS</a>]
00:46:58 ◼ ► about a system for managing e-mail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2818">TS</a>]
00:47:01 ◼ ► and it's basically if you've ever read Getting Things Done the book which I highly recommend in bug zero is getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2821">TS</a>]
00:47:08 ◼ ► things done. Applied your email So here here's the basic you know way way that it works is that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2828">TS</a>]
00:47:14 ◼ ► The messages come in you have your e-mail messages [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2834">TS</a>]
00:47:17 ◼ ► and you have a limited number of things that you can do with those messages right you can reply to them immediately. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2837">TS</a>]
00:47:26 ◼ ► You can delete them or they can be a kind of pending message. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2846">TS</a>]
00:47:33 ◼ ► You need something to happen at a later time so you can file it under like a waiting for kind of system you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2853">TS</a>]
00:47:41 ◼ ► or you can file it as something to be action later. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2861">TS</a>]
00:47:43 ◼ ► So there's like four things that can happen and this is the way my system works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2863">TS</a>]
00:47:48 ◼ ► and I try very very hard to really only look at my e-mail maybe once or twice a day. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2868">TS</a>]
00:47:55 ◼ ► It's not always perfect but when I open up my e-mail inbox. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2875">TS</a>]
00:48:00 ◼ ► Basically I just do that OK I'm going through the inbox [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2880">TS</a>]
00:48:05 ◼ ► and all I'm deciding is OK am I going to reply to this message right away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2885">TS</a>]
00:48:11 ◼ ► and that usually only happens if it's incredibly brief so that you will sometimes get one sentence e-mails from me. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2891">TS</a>]
00:48:17 ◼ ► Yeah or it's incredibly important which luckily doesn't happen too often. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2897">TS</a>]
00:48:22 ◼ ► If it doesn't get replied to immediately the next question is do I need to reply to this at some point maybe not right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2902">TS</a>]
00:48:30 ◼ ► now. And if that's the case on my computer I flag it so I have a keyboard shortcut so I can take control S. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2910">TS</a>]
00:48:38 ◼ ► and It automatically archives the message but also flags it so it shows up in my folder of flag messages [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2918">TS</a>]
00:48:44 ◼ ► and so that is going to be replied to at some point in the future. While that folder would grow very fast. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2924">TS</a>]
00:48:53 ◼ ► Yes Well with that we will get the best. Or I delete the message. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2933">TS</a>]
00:49:02 ◼ ► That's the Basically what happens and do you feel a little pang of sadness when you delete someone you know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2942">TS</a>]
00:49:09 ◼ ► Beautifully written missive without even replying to what something due to late Give me an example of things you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2949">TS</a>]
00:49:14 ◼ ► like the answer to your question why do I feel sadness is that I used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2954">TS</a>]
00:49:19 ◼ ► and so I don't know if you've you've had the same experience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2959">TS</a>]
00:49:21 ◼ ► but I have had this progression over my You Tube career as I have been fortunate enough for the videos to become more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2961">TS</a>]
00:49:27 ◼ ► and more popular that the number of things that I can possibly reply to has decreased over time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2967">TS</a>]
00:49:33 ◼ ► but in the beginning I used to reply to everybody who emailed me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2973">TS</a>]
00:49:37 ◼ ► and even in my early videos you can see I reply to almost every single comment if I possibly could. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2977">TS</a>]
00:49:42 ◼ ► Yeah like that is that is still there but as time has gone on that is that is less and less practical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2982">TS</a>]
00:49:49 ◼ ► and so there was there was a period in which I did feel a sort of guilt about not being able to reply to all the e-mail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2989">TS</a>]
00:49:55 ◼ ► messages that I received. But at this point. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/2995">TS</a>]
00:50:00 ◼ ► So I think I have gotten so used to being able to quickly filter out my email inbox that I do not have any guilt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3000">TS</a>]
00:50:08 ◼ ► because I I don't have any time to have any guilt because I've just gotten so fast at the at the keyboard commands like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3008">TS</a>]
00:50:15 ◼ ► delete delete delete flag flag flag lethally flag flag reply type type type type and delete delete delete flag flag. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3015">TS</a>]
00:50:21 ◼ ► That's what I do when I check the mail right like as fast as I possibly can feel like a robot. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3021">TS</a>]
00:50:27 ◼ ► No no it's just that you acknowledge it to read that email can be this endless time sync [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3027">TS</a>]
00:50:33 ◼ ► and an email is not your job right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3033">TS</a>]
00:50:36 ◼ ► You're not getting paid to reply to emails like mine if I just spent all day replying to all the messages that come in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3036">TS</a>]
00:50:45 ◼ ► I will not have a You Tube career and my wife and I will be out on the street right to life. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3045">TS</a>]
00:50:49 ◼ ► I can't I can't spend a lot of time I want to get email done as fast as humanly possible because this is not how I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3049">TS</a>]
00:50:59 ◼ ► should be spending my day and I think for people who like my videos I think they would agree. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3059">TS</a>]
00:51:06 ◼ ► If you like my videos you want me to spend more time making those videos and less time getting into a back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3066">TS</a>]
00:51:13 ◼ ► and forth discussion with you know some person who happens to have emailed me about a particular thing in a previous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3073">TS</a>]
00:51:19 ◼ ► video I get. Ten of those a day that could be messages that just end up back and forth forever and ever. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3079">TS</a>]
00:51:28 ◼ ► You know at a at a minimum and so I just have to do those kinds of things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3088">TS</a>]
00:51:33 ◼ ► and so I guess the thing that I'm thinking of is you have to know what do I believe this is going to sound terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3093">TS</a>]
00:51:45 ◼ ► But you first have to find my e-mail address you don't have to be like Sherlock to figure out what my email address is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3105">TS</a>]
00:51:50 ◼ ► but I know I don't make it public anymore and that certainly has cut down on the volume a lot because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3110">TS</a>]
00:51:56 ◼ ► when it used to be at the apex of when I was get. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3116">TS</a>]
00:52:00 ◼ ► I'm quite popular on You Tube but still had my email listed on the home page like email me with your thoughts. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3120">TS</a>]
00:52:07 ◼ ► At some point I was getting just hundreds and hundreds of emails [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3127">TS</a>]
00:52:10 ◼ ► and I thought oh OK I can't do this anymore I took it off but people can still know my email addresses. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3130">TS</a>]
00:52:14 ◼ ► Yeah but the people message me and I would say that any particular email message that that comes into my inbox. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3134">TS</a>]
00:52:26 ◼ ► It has three seconds to convince me to not hit the delete button and that is that is an absolute max [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3146">TS</a>]
00:52:36 ◼ ► and I've gotten very very good at kind of getting the gist of an email almost immediately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3156">TS</a>]
00:52:44 ◼ ► and just being like to leave goodbye message before I ask you that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3164">TS</a>]
00:52:50 ◼ ► Best Practice tell me some of the worst practice what's going to get me deleted. Yeah right so this is this is also. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3170">TS</a>]
00:52:58 ◼ ► It's really interesting to be in this position because because I like to contact experts if I can for my own research [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3178">TS</a>]
00:53:06 ◼ ► projects I'm in this interesting position [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3186">TS</a>]
00:53:08 ◼ ► and I am also a person who is trying to get the attention of other busy people who probably do the same kinds of things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3188">TS</a>]
00:53:16 ◼ ► who get lots of messages and just delete a whole bunch of them. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3196">TS</a>]
00:53:20 ◼ ► So it's it's very interesting to me to be on both sides of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3200">TS</a>]
00:53:25 ◼ ► and I have to say I I have a very high response rates for the emails I send. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3205">TS</a>]
00:53:30 ◼ ► Other busy people who don't know who I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3210">TS</a>]
00:53:32 ◼ ► and I think that that precisely because I've gotten so many messages to me where you can just see OK don't do this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3212">TS</a>]
00:53:38 ◼ ► So the things that I'm going to say you can take it as a like a lesson in like how to contact a busy person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3218">TS</a>]
00:53:46 ◼ ► and get a reply. Yeah. So I would say instant death is a message that goes beyond the screen of my computer. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3226">TS</a>]
00:54:00 ◼ ► The message is if something comes up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3240">TS</a>]
00:54:01 ◼ ► and the scroll bar pops up on the side so I can see you have written so many paragraphs it goes off my screen. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3241">TS</a>]
00:54:08 ◼ ► That is almost a guaranteed instant delete. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3248">TS</a>]
00:54:11 ◼ ► Even if they have like a killer first sentence that says you know he's right so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3251">TS</a>]
00:54:16 ◼ ► when I said I have three seconds what you base what that means is I'm very aware that I tend to read the first sentence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3256">TS</a>]
00:54:25 ◼ ► and the first sentence of the second paragraph at most to see if it's going to like stay in my hand on the delete [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3265">TS</a>]
00:54:34 ◼ ► and I have learned that if those messages are really long those first two sentences that I read never convince me otherwise. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3274">TS</a>]
00:54:43 ◼ ► If it's like you know you said you're afraid that someone has sent you a Nobel prize winning email [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3283">TS</a>]
00:54:49 ◼ ► and you know you haven't gone through it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3289">TS</a>]
00:54:54 ◼ ► and I will fully acknowledge that maybe someone has sent me like an important long message that I would have liked to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3294">TS</a>]
00:55:02 ◼ ► but because of the time constraints of the real world you can't make decisions like that you can't read every email as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3302">TS</a>]
00:55:10 ◼ ► though it's going to be possibly incredibly important. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3310">TS</a>]
00:55:14 ◼ ► You have to use these kind of mental Harris ticks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3314">TS</a>]
00:55:16 ◼ ► and one of the things that I have learned is that basically the length of the email is almost always inversely related [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3316">TS</a>]
00:55:26 ◼ ► So e-mail that I'm going likely to respond to you are relatively short [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3326">TS</a>]
00:55:31 ◼ ► and that's one the reasons why if I'm emailing a professor that I want to have him look over my script [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3331">TS</a>]
00:55:36 ◼ ► or someone my e-mails are as brief as they can possibly be they're basically you know three paragraphs each paragraph [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3336">TS</a>]
00:55:48 ◼ ► is about two sentences long and each paragraph is designed to hit a very particular point. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3348">TS</a>]
00:55:57 ◼ ► So my message is to other people basically start with. Here's why you might want to read this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3357">TS</a>]
00:56:03 ◼ ► You know here's a link to the thing that I would like you to take a look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3363">TS</a>]
00:56:09 ◼ ► and then I finish with the paragraph of here's who I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3369">TS</a>]
00:56:14 ◼ ► and that's the kind of message that I send out to somebody else because I'm aware that that is relatively effective [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3374">TS</a>]
00:56:18 ◼ ► when people are trying to get my attention get straight to the point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3378">TS</a>]
00:56:23 ◼ ► and tell me leader who you are you know don't don't start an e-mail with like the two paragraph C.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3383">TS</a>]
00:56:32 ◼ ► I want to know why are you contacting me and then later I want to know who you are going to tell us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3392">TS</a>]
00:56:39 ◼ ► and I maybe it didn't follow that I had a reasonable response right to you but maybe maybe it would be better. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3399">TS</a>]
00:56:46 ◼ ► That's that's going to trust. Because it's yeah I was there. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3406">TS</a>]
00:56:49 ◼ ► It's something I'm really aware of when I'm reading e-mails [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3409">TS</a>]
00:56:51 ◼ ► and that's why I do the first sentence of the first paragraph in the first sentence of the second paragraph because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3411">TS</a>]
00:56:56 ◼ ► almost always that first paragraph is some kind of introduction to who the person is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3416">TS</a>]
00:57:01 ◼ ► and I understand that you have maybe accomplished many great things in your life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3421">TS</a>]
00:57:06 ◼ ► but I can't evaluate that in context until I know what you're asking me what do you want. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3426">TS</a>]
00:57:14 ◼ ► And then if it's an interesting question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3434">TS</a>]
00:57:17 ◼ ► or you know it's an interesting proposal then I want to know more about who you are. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3437">TS</a>]
00:57:22 ◼ ► I don't just want to know who you are in the abstract you know again this is for designing emails that are going to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3442">TS</a>]
00:57:28 ◼ ► a response from a busy person not emailing your friends obviously. So that's like best practice. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3448">TS</a>]
00:57:34 ◼ ► Actually I found that really interesting myself. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3454">TS</a>]
00:57:37 ◼ ► Actually the funny thing is for me anyway the subject field doesn't really matter because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3457">TS</a>]
00:57:41 ◼ ► when I'm blasting through emails I don't see the Subject field the way it's the way it's set up is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3461">TS</a>]
00:57:47 ◼ ► when I hit delete like the next message just loads. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3467">TS</a>]
00:57:51 ◼ ► And so again I'm kind of doing first sentence second sentence scanning so the subject doesn't actually matter a whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3471">TS</a>]
00:57:57 ◼ ► lot to me but that's just the way I have my own. Email set up a parliament. Good idea bad idea. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3477">TS</a>]
00:58:04 ◼ ► I don't think I've ever opened an attachment that anybody has ever sent me. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3484">TS</a>]
00:58:12 ◼ ► As was not going to as is not going to happen. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3492">TS</a>]
00:58:15 ◼ ► People I know who you are not opening up some attachment that you have sent me. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3495">TS</a>]
00:58:18 ◼ ► What about that what about someone you know someone like me whose name you know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3498">TS</a>]
00:58:24 ◼ ► How often do I end up in that deleted bin Well can I get an extra sentence Grayson. Well you end up. Really. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3504">TS</a>]
00:58:38 ◼ ► I guess basically you end up in the same deleted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3518">TS</a>]
00:58:41 ◼ ► but I actually archive it I do keep all the messages even though I know that Nobel Prize is still sitting somewhere. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3521">TS</a>]
00:58:47 ◼ ► Yeah I mean the archive is almost functionally equivalent to delete in ninety nine percent of cases [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3527">TS</a>]
00:58:53 ◼ ► but basically if you sent me an email [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3533">TS</a>]
00:58:55 ◼ ► and I don't reply to that email I have archived that email so that that does happen and it's because I mean email [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3535">TS</a>]
00:59:02 ◼ ► and it just doesn't warrant a reply you to telling me something which also gets into the weird email etiquette which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3542">TS</a>]
00:59:07 ◼ ► just sometimes uncomfortable where with people you think oh you told me this thing. Do I need to just say thanks. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3547">TS</a>]
00:59:14 ◼ ► Yeah yeah but just like have a look at this link with this video I thought you might like it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3554">TS</a>]
00:59:19 ◼ ► Yeah there can be a little weird sometimes and again it sounds crazy to hesitate over sending thanks link [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3559">TS</a>]
00:59:28 ◼ ► but if you know the other person is also receiving lots of e-mail every day. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3568">TS</a>]
00:59:34 ◼ ► All of those things start to add up over time I like that can become that can become quite monstrous. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3574">TS</a>]
00:59:41 ◼ ► I guess like I'd like some acknowledgement that things are safe OK but because I can ignore thanks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3581">TS</a>]
00:59:47 ◼ ► but not knowing that the worst thing for me is when he when I when someone says let's film together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3587">TS</a>]
00:59:54 ◼ ► and I'll email back and say brilliant. Wednesday three o'clock is good and they don't reply. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3594">TS</a>]
01:00:00 ◼ ► And until they reply that extra time and say yep it's going back I won't put it in my diary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3600">TS</a>]
01:00:08 ◼ ► and then I just don't turn up somewhere and they're like I got your email saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3608">TS</a>]
01:00:11 ◼ ► when say three o'clock I was waiting here until I get that confirmation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3611">TS</a>]
01:00:15 ◼ ► and I know this I know that's more extreme than thanks for their email but I find that totally baffling. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3615">TS</a>]
01:00:21 ◼ ► Who are you working with who doesn't replied to confirm her calendar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3621">TS</a>]
01:00:25 ◼ ► and dates academics academics with their heads in the clouds right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3625">TS</a>]
01:00:29 ◼ ► I would act the same way as you until I get a reply [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3629">TS</a>]
01:00:31 ◼ ► or something like that it does not count on the putting you in my calendar until I get a reply for that forget it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3631">TS</a>]
01:00:37 ◼ ► I get to you sometimes but you've got all these men these you know procedures in place and that's good that's good. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3637">TS</a>]
01:00:44 ◼ ► But do you sometimes just reply on a whim to something you normally wouldn't reply to. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3644">TS</a>]
01:00:52 ◼ ► Yet every once in a while someone sends me an email and I will I will just reply but that that is so random [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3652">TS</a>]
01:01:00 ◼ ► and such a tiny percent of my outgoing email that it basically doesn't matter at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3660">TS</a>]
01:01:06 ◼ ► but it does happen on occasion that something will just randomly catch my attention. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3666">TS</a>]
01:01:12 ◼ ► What if just wait is just an out and I say this like you know like something overseas or not but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3672">TS</a>]
01:01:18 ◼ ► when you do get fan mail somebody saying thanks for the videos for making they're really good. I mean a lot to me. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3678">TS</a>]
01:01:27 ◼ ► OK Again this is the sound really awful but no I don't reply to them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3687">TS</a>]
01:01:32 ◼ ► and this is this is where it comes into the question of why is that. Thanks. Is sending just the word Thanks. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3692">TS</a>]
01:01:41 ◼ ► Worse than not replying. Thanks just feel like it's totally empty and devoid of any meaning. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3701">TS</a>]
01:01:51 ◼ ► Like thanks I have made no comment at all about the things that you have said to me. And so sending it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3711">TS</a>]
01:02:00 ◼ ► So yeah it's just so devoid of meaning that it feels more honest to not reply and and frankly this because I can't. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3720">TS</a>]
01:02:13 ◼ ► You sound like a terrible person but I don't I don't know people are interested but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3733">TS</a>]
01:02:17 ◼ ► but interested in just how how things are from a certain perspective like this is this is going back to a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3737">TS</a>]
01:02:24 ◼ ► conversations ago we were talking about Derek's comment. Derek of Veritasium pretty dark. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3744">TS</a>]
01:02:31 ◼ ► His comment that like the value of positive feedback goes to zero as you get more and more of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3751">TS</a>]
01:02:37 ◼ ► and it's interesting because it's like very many hate the word fan I really hate the word fan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3757">TS</a>]
01:02:47 ◼ ► but yeah it's an awful word because it describes qualities of the person that I don't think are fair. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3767">TS</a>]
01:02:53 ◼ ► But let's say appreciative emails that you get are almost all of the same. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3773">TS</a>]
01:03:02 ◼ ► And it's like this quote that that all happy families are identical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3782">TS</a>]
01:03:05 ◼ ► but miserable families are all miserable in their own unique way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3785">TS</a>]
01:03:09 ◼ ► and it's the same thing with feedback right positive emails are almost always all the same. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3789">TS</a>]
01:03:15 ◼ ► But people who hate you have their own really particular reason for hating you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3795">TS</a>]
01:03:20 ◼ ► and so that the negative mail is much more varied in its content than the positive mail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3800">TS</a>]
01:03:27 ◼ ► and I don't really reply to either but it's it's interesting when you start talking about getting lots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3807">TS</a>]
01:03:32 ◼ ► and lots of email messages from people to you to see that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3812">TS</a>]
01:03:36 ◼ ► and it's very rare that there is something unique in a positive message that that catches my attention [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3816">TS</a>]
01:03:43 ◼ ► and I will mention one that stuck with me like you know there aren't very many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3823">TS</a>]
01:03:46 ◼ ► but somebody sent me a message where they said that they hadn't really been speaking to their brother in a while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3826">TS</a>]
01:03:55 ◼ ► but at a Thanksgiving dinner they discovered that they had both watched and like my videos. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3835">TS</a>]
01:04:00 ◼ ► Probably in that they have had a whole conversation about my videos it was really nice to be able to have a starting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3840">TS</a>]
01:04:06 ◼ ► point for you know a new conversation with family member and I thought oh that you know that's really nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3846">TS</a>]
01:04:13 ◼ ► and that's very specific and you know I appreciated hearing that and I and I I think I replied to that person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3853">TS</a>]
01:04:22 ◼ ► but I think that it's interesting to hear him take this further comment depending on my mood. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3862">TS</a>]
01:04:27 ◼ ► But it's interesting you're you're talking about in replying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3867">TS</a>]
01:04:31 ◼ ► and this feedback about what you you know what you get from. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3871">TS</a>]
01:04:35 ◼ ► But should we should both of us be thinking about what the recipient will get from us taking five seconds to reply. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3875">TS</a>]
01:04:44 ◼ ► Well I mean what it means to them and I know that he's all these five ten thirty seconds add up. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3884">TS</a>]
01:04:50 ◼ ► Yeah they did pop into my head that so I'll tell you why in a minute. I had been on the other side of this and so. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3890">TS</a>]
01:04:58 ◼ ► I have definitely sent fan emails I guess in the Internet age to people who I thought were just totally awesome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3898">TS</a>]
01:05:07 ◼ ► and I would say the thanks email I honestly found a worse experience to receive then the nothing e-mail. Fair enough. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3907">TS</a>]
01:05:17 ◼ ► Yes And I mean that is just my personal experience I saw him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3917">TS</a>]
01:05:21 ◼ ► and I got I don't know I have I have a message famous people and gotten back the one word thanks. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3921">TS</a>]
01:05:29 ◼ ► You going to tell us one even if it's not someone who said I think people are going to want to know who see G.P. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3929">TS</a>]
01:05:33 ◼ ► Grayson to fan out and now I'm not going to you're going to be one with others for this but it was my business. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3933">TS</a>]
01:05:41 ◼ ► You can tell us now to talk about how you administer your Even my business telling me about the evidence you choosing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3941">TS</a>]
01:05:50 ◼ ► to imagine that I'm not going to mention to you great outbound fan mail. Sorry everyone. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3950">TS</a>]
01:06:00 ◼ ► Let me tell you why I brought it up like this a sudden this is a this is a slight tangent. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3960">TS</a>]
01:06:04 ◼ ► Yeah but it's something that was in my head I was reading through some one of the Reddit Bex about advertising [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3964">TS</a>]
01:06:13 ◼ ► and this person or a comment about all the things they hate about advertising. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3973">TS</a>]
01:06:18 ◼ ► I hate this I don't like this this just bugs me and it wasn't that long a comment but they used the word I. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3978">TS</a>]
01:06:25 ◼ ► I think ten times in the comment and never once did they mention the person who made the free video they were watching. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3985">TS</a>]
01:06:38 ◼ ► And what benefits they may or may not get from advertising and I do think it's all very selfish. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/3998">TS</a>]
01:06:48 ◼ ► Well I guess that's that's the nature of you know humans but I do think it's easy to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/4008">TS</a>]
01:06:56 ◼ ► and I promise you I ignore more a mouse than you so I'm not I'm not being high and mighty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/4016">TS</a>]
01:07:03 ◼ ► but I do sometimes feel bad about people who have taken a long time to write something from the heart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/4023">TS</a>]
01:07:09 ◼ ► and if I think there is something from the heart and it sounds really stupid and mushy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/4029">TS</a>]
01:07:12 ◼ ► but if I think something from the heart I will write something and I will make sure it's more I will say thanks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/4032">TS</a>]
01:07:19 ◼ ► and then I'll make sure there is one sentence or one phrase in there that proves that I read that even if it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/4039">TS</a>]
01:07:29 ◼ ► or something like that because I think you know these people have taken taken some trouble [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/4049">TS</a>]
01:07:35 ◼ ► and I know I know lives are not going you know I just want to interject here because I just I think you know this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/4055">TS</a>]
01:07:43 ◼ ► morning my sense of time is all messed up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/4063">TS</a>]
01:07:46 ◼ ► but I think it was just this morning I actually left a comment on someone's You Tube channel who had just made a You [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/4066">TS</a>]
01:07:53 ◼ ► Tube video. Just basically saying that they enjoyed the podcast and they enjoyed the videos that I made. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/4073">TS</a>]
01:08:01 ◼ ► And I have the same experience that you do which is that if I'm going to leave a thank you comment I want the person to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/4081">TS</a>]
01:08:07 ◼ ► know that I actually watched the thing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/4087">TS</a>]
01:08:10 ◼ ► Yes And so I was going to just write thanks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/4090">TS</a>]
01:08:14 ◼ ► but then I added another little comment just just to prove you know I didn't just see that you made a video about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/4094">TS</a>]
01:08:22 ◼ ► pod cast I saw that you made the video and I actually watched it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/4102">TS</a>]
01:08:27 ◼ ► and you can know that through the comment that I have left so that that that I agree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/4107">TS</a>]
01:08:32 ◼ ► and that's also why if I feel I feel very strongly about this I just sending the thanks is kind of worse. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/4112">TS</a>]
01:08:38 ◼ ► Yeah not replying because the not replies is much more honest especially as you like when I'm being a robot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/4118">TS</a>]
01:08:45 ◼ ► and I'm just delete delete delete you no archive archive archive all these messages. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/4125">TS</a>]
01:08:50 ◼ ► You know if I scan a very quickly and see that it is it is an e-mail that is positive I appreciate receiving that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/4130">TS</a>]
01:08:59 ◼ ► But I'm not going to reply thanks. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/4139">TS</a>]
01:09:01 ◼ ► Fifty times a day to a message that like you don't get anything from the thanks and you know it's just but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/4141">TS</a>]
01:09:09 ◼ ► but again these expectations with e-mail that these are like letters is makes e-mail much more complicated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/4149">TS</a>]
01:09:17 ◼ ► and even though I don't have any guilt about archiving those messages because it's just a parting of the subsidy that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/4157">TS</a>]
01:09:23 ◼ ► that that feeling of hesitation is still much more there than something like Twitter you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/4163">TS</a>]
01:09:28 ◼ ► or Reddit messages you know what I feel no obligation to not you know to reply to it in the slightest. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/4168">TS</a>]
01:09:33 ◼ ► What about the concern because not everyone is a savvy as you are with their writing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/4173">TS</a>]
01:09:39 ◼ ► and you know they might they might bury the latest news papers and put the important stuff down the bottom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/4179">TS</a>]
01:09:45 ◼ ► and what if that means a missed opportunity he would have someone says David Gray This is who I am this is my life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/4185">TS</a>]
01:09:52 ◼ ► story and I think you're wonderful and then that last sentence is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/4192">TS</a>]
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01:10:01 ◼ ► And you've you've never even got to because you have to later that night because that would worry me. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/4201">TS</a>]
01:10:07 ◼ ► That worries me that so I don't worry about this at all. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/4207">TS</a>]
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01:10:23 ◼ ► maximizing the value that you get from email. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/4223">TS</a>]
01:10:28 ◼ ► but like what is your argument that you want to spend all day using e-mail inefficiently like your argument is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/4228">TS</a>]
01:10:35 ◼ ► My argument is correct that if if if I have I have seen over time a particular pattern that certain e-mails that match [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/4235">TS</a>]
01:10:44 ◼ ► certain heuristics in my mind just have nothing to reply to or have no value. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/4244">TS</a>]
01:10:49 ◼ ► I mean sure I guess I could read every single every single message that comes in every day. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/4249">TS</a>]
01:10:54 ◼ ► But like that argument is equally valid for all of the spam I get when I look at my spam folder. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/4254">TS</a>]
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01:11:13 ◼ ► What if what if the guy with the diamond sent you a message and it got caught in the spam so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/4273">TS</a>]
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01:11:21 ◼ ► Well I guess I mean you're treating your treating it and there's a balance in it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/4281">TS</a>]
01:11:25 ◼ ► but you're treating it like the Large Hadron Collider you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/4285">TS</a>]
01:11:28 ◼ ► and you've got three hundred million collisions a second to progress and you've got to start applying blanket rolls [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BgMUuAxdA/4288">TS</a>]
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