The Talk Show

8: Like Giving Natalie Portman a Trucker Cap, with Merlin Mann


00:00:00   so you're talking about you gotta get a

00:00:01   hammer to fix your macbook pro right

00:00:03   I've got a four-year-old macbook pro in

00:00:05   the end and i put to death a tough age

00:00:07   55 years old I don't know that mean i

00:00:10   think still has a silver keyboard

00:00:11   you know I mean ancient and I put the

00:00:14   SSD in there by hand and used a hammer

00:00:17   because it's the only tool i have an ass

00:00:19   i don't have any of these little

00:00:19   screwdrivers and stuff like that and it

00:00:22   works and it was it's a remarkable

00:00:24   upgrade really was and I just the whole

00:00:26   debate over you know the fact that you

00:00:27   can upgrade the new macbook pro ball but

00:00:29   that this one putting a seven hundred

00:00:31   dollar SSD in there it was like getting

00:00:33   a new machine my desktop machine is this

00:00:36   four-year-old macbook pro and i put an

00:00:40   SSD in there myself couple years ago

00:00:42   gave it a big upgrade but I you know I

00:00:44   don't have good tools i use the hammer

00:00:45   instead of these little precision

00:00:47   screwdrivers I don't know what else I

00:00:48   did in their thing seems very fast but

00:00:51   it it doesn't do I owe consistently so

00:00:56   when I do like a recording it'll get you

00:00:58   know i'll get like two minutes of good

00:00:59   stuff in it just hiccups like it it's

00:01:02   not good so I can't use our first guy so

00:01:05   I used my macbook air which is a

00:01:07   secondary computer for skype but it's

00:01:10   also the machine on which I try out like

00:01:12   things like mountain lion with him and

00:01:15   I'd I think mountain lion the latest

00:01:17   version of mountain beta 2 beta so I'm

00:01:19   not complaining really but it seems to

00:01:21   have had a bit of an allergic reaction

00:01:22   with the mac picture get your hard drive

00:01:25   really have something to do with your

00:01:27   USB well now on this machine i don't i

00:01:31   don't know i don't either something's

00:01:32   going on with a bound line the latest

00:01:34   beta on this because like for example

00:01:35   like one of the reasons I was a little

00:01:37   late starting this cause i just opened

00:01:39   it up and macbook Gary open it up and it

00:01:41   should be ready to go right and instead

00:01:43   I got the beach ball and the beach ball

00:01:45   just never went away and that's the sort

00:01:47   of thing like i have never had problems

00:01:48   like that with people at the login

00:01:50   screen I yeah well you know what the 1i

00:01:53   have it set up so that after it wakes up

00:01:55   its sleep that it you know prompt you

00:01:57   for anything but yet at all it with the

00:01:59   huh

00:02:00   I'm not now i have gotten it goes to

00:02:02   sleep and you know it's euthanized like

00:02:05   as I just won't come up

00:02:07   sometimes where you left it we'll talk

00:02:10   about that this is

00:02:11   now not really kinda who cares I mean

00:02:13   it's a beta I'm sure they're gonna fix

00:02:15   it you know before that thing actually

00:02:17   ships but I just don't want you to stay

00:02:19   in the Good Book says i'm saying i'm not

00:02:21   on the radar screen but you need to

00:02:22   watch that stuff

00:02:24   yeah but what are they gonna do you mean

00:02:27   by much don't state secrets you know I

00:02:29   mean I mean what the beta release of an

00:02:32   operating system but a little little

00:02:34   unstable right on a you know one

00:02:36   particular model of macbook air i have

00:02:39   not if you know they do sometimes on

00:02:41   forums on flora what we're if you're

00:02:44   going to learn how to start bath salts

00:02:47   in a different way the way you say it is

00:02:49   i think you say it's a friend who's not

00:02:51   me right

00:02:53   this is the parliaments ok so friend is

00:02:55   not mean that may be running that on the

00:02:58   macbook air pretty much with no problems

00:03:00   but the problem is now for myself not my

00:03:04   friend my i was very bummed to find out

00:03:07   that my macpro just gonna run it

00:03:10   it's too old they want to talk about

00:03:12   right now it's just it's not gonna go

00:03:13   i'm not in the window won't run a candy

00:03:16   mountain lion I i try to get it from the

00:03:18   thing I mean friend of mine tried to let

00:03:20   me start over

00:03:20   I it's not gonna run my macpro it's

00:03:22   totally bone in my head it's making me

00:03:24   rethink my entire setup here get to

00:03:26   those stages like every like five years

00:03:28   we go

00:03:28   hmm might be time to really rethink a

00:03:31   lot of these things

00:03:32   yeah exactly i got it i mean i got i got

00:03:34   you know for drives in here i recently

00:03:36   probably unadvisedly switched from one

00:03:40   terabyte everything to two terabyte

00:03:41   stuff which I'm already kind of

00:03:43   regretting but you know I gotta get a

00:03:45   butt ton of space on this thing I can

00:03:46   you know keep everything hooked up I

00:03:49   don't have thunder bolt anything yet so

00:03:50   if i wanted to do all that hooking up

00:03:52   with your real pain

00:03:53   you know I mean but uh I'm gonna miss

00:03:57   that I don't want to do with this thing

00:03:58   I have to I I it's just it's just a big

00:04:01   shell I don't know what to do with it I

00:04:03   can sell it right because if i sell it

00:04:04   somebody's gonna have to like cut the

00:04:06   whole thing and put all new robot parts

00:04:08   it right if they want to run online

00:04:11   yeah I guess I don't people like these

00:04:12   are the times for the case so they can

00:04:14   make mashed raised and stuff people of

00:04:15   Marco eat you want to sell one of these

00:04:17   Marco thirty-eight thousand dollars

00:04:18   today for a macro and he bought he

00:04:21   bought the

00:04:23   the the quote quote new haha that was a

00:04:29   pretty lights upgrade is that correct

00:04:30   yeah i mean almost almost almost almost

00:04:34   really really featherweight it's like

00:04:36   this right we have exactly it's you know

00:04:39   it's like a I i think it went from 2.66

00:04:43   gigahertz 22.7 guards but he was he so

00:04:47   he's so hungry

00:04:49   he's been so focused on this that he

00:04:51   couldn't let it go by now

00:04:53   well the funny thing is is one of the

00:04:55   things that i love about WWDC is is you

00:04:58   go out there i got there for the week

00:04:59   and it's like all of a sudden my entire

00:05:01   internet is now within like three city

00:05:04   blocks of each other and this is totally

00:05:08   true story i forget where I was coming

00:05:10   from but it was on you know what it was

00:05:13   Pete went over to the peet's coffee

00:05:15   that's over there at things like third

00:05:17   and Howard and I was walking back to

00:05:19   Moscow me west and marco was behind me I

00:05:23   think Marco might have been staying at

00:05:24   the w and and I went down that way we

00:05:27   caught up to me and he was heading back

00:05:29   over and he goes you know what and it

00:05:33   just knows it's like he just opened up

00:05:34   is I use thinking like you know I think

00:05:36   I'm gonna buy that new mac pro and you

00:05:38   know it's like wednesday that he liked

00:05:39   talking to I was like they're like in

00:05:42   between like right in front of moscone

00:05:44   north and south which is between the W

00:05:46   and and Moscow me west where WTC is

00:05:50   that's where Marco talked himself into

00:05:52   buying the mac pro and I was just there

00:05:53   nodding my head I didn't encourage it

00:05:55   I didn't discourage it i but i was there

00:05:57   and then next week on the show and he

00:05:59   said he ballin heating complain about

00:06:02   your coffee at all eaten I think you can

00:06:05   watch that you see considers Pete's to

00:06:07   be pretty burned because people end up

00:06:09   putting a lot of junk in it and he

00:06:10   didn't like that

00:06:12   don't thank God I don't have his tastes

00:06:13   like I couldn't live like that but now

00:06:15   him that's a big deal because he's can

00:06:18   ask for favors your show but i can ask

00:06:20   one favor i miss your show but just just

00:06:22   for the sake of having some kind of a

00:06:25   contrivance can we act like I don't know

00:06:27   all that much stuff about computers

00:06:30   okay um that's how I always treat you

00:06:33   thank you

00:06:33   ok but you know what that's gonna help

00:06:35   so much now Marcus case when he

00:06:36   making the making software he needs the

00:06:39   fastest concealed like that that changes

00:06:41   his his career if he can make the

00:06:44   software turn into software faster right

00:06:46   it is going to be sitting around some

00:06:48   kind of hobble genuine macbook air he

00:06:50   needs something that's gonna be called

00:06:53   building right because it takes time

00:06:56   that takes time and it takes it to your

00:06:57   pagan out your processors when you're

00:06:58   trying to make the instant papers that

00:07:00   correct yes that's one of those things

00:07:02   where the rest of us people who you know

00:07:05   like I don't think there's anything i do

00:07:07   anymore a computer that i have to wait

00:07:09   for the computer I i have the way less

00:07:11   energy unless something has gone wrong

00:07:13   that's exactly the same for me there's

00:07:15   nothing I do that wasn't a runaway

00:07:17   process that I mean occasionally you'll

00:07:20   see some squirrely happen for some

00:07:21   reason occasionally multi markdown takes

00:07:24   four processors and i don't know why but

00:07:26   friends not even running anything which

00:07:27   is weird but you know whatever it be

00:07:30   quit to quit the process but now like

00:07:32   what if i get real crazy and I have you

00:07:35   know 30 Safari windows open and a bunch

00:07:37   of tabs in each one and and there's a

00:07:39   couple of them that are doing JavaScript

00:07:40   over and open up activity monitor and it

00:07:42   says safari is using 90-some percent of

00:07:45   my cpu just idle in the background then

00:07:47   yes things get slow and presumably if I

00:07:49   had a faster machine i could still have

00:07:51   all of that going on and it wouldn't be

00:07:52   as noticeable but in general on my max

00:07:55   I'm never waiting for the cpu whereas

00:07:57   developers absolutely are like video

00:08:00   like if you're if you're doing video

00:08:01   there's a really kind of neat

00:08:03   you might have seen this on the app

00:08:04   store there's up I saw it ostensibly

00:08:06   because I was trying to test the new

00:08:07   drives you know when you get any dries

00:08:09   it's a good idea to kind of put him

00:08:11   through a torture test and at least find

00:08:12   out to the extent possible how you know

00:08:15   what I mean they say for drugs bad it's

00:08:17   going in the first few weeks which has

00:08:18   been my experience actually did find 1i

00:08:20   got a clunker but I there's this app you

00:08:23   can get and something disc something and

00:08:26   then cooked and I think what it does

00:08:29   it's made for video folks and so you

00:08:31   pound on this drive super hard and it

00:08:33   shows you how much like what's what's

00:08:35   sizes of video you can reasonably do

00:08:38   with your computer so right so if you're

00:08:40   if you're pushing out whatever 1080p

00:08:42   giant video you want all the power you

00:08:45   can get right that's heavily math

00:08:47   intensive stuff right

00:08:48   yeah ditto ditto for

00:08:50   pushing on instapaper right tell you

00:08:53   that was a good purchase room I yeah I

00:08:58   don't know maybe at I guess the thing

00:09:03   i'm not i'm confused about is how slow

00:09:05   but what kind of machine repair is

00:09:07   replacing with the i would i would

00:09:08   always feel like the same thing is like

00:09:10   moving somewhere you know like when

00:09:12   you're in a house you notice everything

00:09:14   that's wrong with where you live you

00:09:15   know the parking Sox your neighbor your

00:09:18   neighbors

00:09:18   I don't know what allowed to say on here

00:09:19   but your neighbors an unpleasant person

00:09:21   you know what you mean like you notice

00:09:23   everything that's wrong and then when

00:09:24   you move you suddenly noticed all these

00:09:27   things that you never knew or right

00:09:28   before and as i get older i start to

00:09:31   think more about the overhead involved

00:09:33   in changing anything and even today with

00:09:35   like migration assistant everything so

00:09:37   much better you can I have successfully

00:09:39   restored an ipad from the iCloud in like

00:09:42   minutes that you know sometimes it works

00:09:45   but you know what i mean it's like to be

00:09:46   the overhead of moving to a new machine

00:09:47   would be so much juju that I would worry

00:09:50   about that I would want a bigger

00:09:51   thinking about getting a new macbook air

00:09:53   because even though mind still working

00:09:54   great for almost two years ago i'm

00:09:57   attracted to the new ones but don't you

00:09:59   think I mean like I would way that in

00:10:01   terms of that bump and speed i would

00:10:02   think a lot about whether it's worth you

00:10:04   know me just for the chance that maybe

00:10:06   it's got a bum USB port or something

00:10:08   don't mean like that stuff happens the

00:10:09   overhead of that

00:10:10   yeah I also worry about and when I buy a

00:10:15   Mac I do i do I still feel like this i

00:10:17   still feel like you start you start over

00:10:19   right don't you go totally clean and

00:10:20   well that's now I don't really do that

00:10:23   but i had i feel like i'm gonna i'm i'm

00:10:26   in with this thing for four years

00:10:28   that's what i like to do I like to get

00:10:30   it set up and then I add all my stupid

00:10:32   little extras and get all the little

00:10:34   preferences moved over and and the

00:10:36   things that don't happen automatically

00:10:38   just through migration assistant

00:10:40   although I guess what i do is i don't

00:10:42   really use the migration assistant i try

00:10:44   to like start using the thing new and

00:10:46   then slowly one by one as I miss things

00:10:48   move them over that used to being up

00:10:50   that used to be easier in some ways that

00:10:54   back when you know what I mean like back

00:10:56   when you could just pull over an

00:10:57   application drop it in the folder I mean

00:11:00   for that matter you know extensions you

00:11:02   can just drop an extension in and

00:11:03   restarting

00:11:04   right you know what I mean he knew even

00:11:06   if you're not doing any tape stuff for

00:11:07   crazy cakes tough or anything like that

00:11:09   there's still there still a certain

00:11:11   amount of to do today and where's

00:11:12   migration assistant

00:11:14   knock on wood has you know if you've got

00:11:16   the time and the connection i bump blown

00:11:19   away with how migration assistant works

00:11:21   i have to say is it worked pretty well

00:11:22   for you yeah it does especially it works

00:11:24   a lot better for like Amy like as a just

00:11:27   a normal person it doesn't have stupid

00:11:30   system extensions and stuff like that

00:11:32   you know if you make sure you got enough

00:11:34   and she gets a new one she gets a new

00:11:36   machine you just do the standard

00:11:38   migration assistant thing and all of a

00:11:41   sudden an hour to later her machine is

00:11:43   all of our stuff on it I have it that's

00:11:45   that still feels like magic to me I

00:11:46   gotta say that this next one I don't

00:11:48   know if I want to spend the dough

00:11:48   because I i I've always said that my the

00:11:51   su-30 that I had whatever in there I

00:11:54   guess early nineties always still feels

00:11:57   like in my head like pound-for-pound

00:11:58   still feels like the fastest Mac I ever

00:12:00   had

00:12:01   that's probably not accurate but given

00:12:03   the balance of running like word 5.1 you

00:12:06   know what I mean like everything I was

00:12:07   doing just felt lightning-fast on a

00:12:09   computer but I gotta say this macbook

00:12:11   air i bought it on my birthday like

00:12:13   november two thousand ten i bought this

00:12:14   thing and it's to this day it still

00:12:16   feeling it still feels ridiculously fast

00:12:19   I know part of that's the SSD drive but

00:12:21   I mean that this one again my macpro

00:12:23   it's like beachball city and i'm forever

00:12:25   Apple jacking and f cking and doing all

00:12:28   the Mojo to try and you know when I

00:12:31   don't know this is true for you in my

00:12:32   experience it feels like most the time i

00:12:33   get beach balls

00:12:34   it's not because the processor stuff or

00:12:36   whatever it's because yeah maybe I'm low

00:12:38   on space but I it feels like it's always

00:12:40   like a tiny little nick of disc damage

00:12:43   that might be causing it to forget that

00:12:46   yeah I know exactly and so i'll go but i

00:12:49   don't think i get it anymore with the

00:12:50   ssds I think the ssds are sort of like

00:12:52   that well that's the thing is i mean i

00:12:54   don't know i'm so so the new macbook

00:12:57   airs don't get the right now that's only

00:12:58   on the macbook pro right exactly yeah so

00:13:00   that's you know it's it's kinda like why

00:13:03   didn't get you know the ipad 3 is

00:13:06   because it's just not enough there yet

00:13:09   it's why for the sake of argument friend

00:13:11   is not me would not put iOS 6 on Carrie

00:13:14   phone it's not like I don't need sports

00:13:17   scores

00:13:17   from this not me does not need support

00:13:18   scores you know I'm saying it's not

00:13:20   quite there yet

00:13:22   it's almost there with macbook air just

00:13:23   because now i'm hungry in the same way

00:13:25   i'm guessing like Marco I'm hungry for

00:13:26   that like that pounding speed it's you

00:13:29   know so you know that phenomenon that's

00:13:32   so a common it's a cliché which is you

00:13:36   get your new computer and you go oh my

00:13:38   god this is so much faster than my other

00:13:40   computer and within four to nine days he

00:13:43   stopped noticing that it's faster now

00:13:46   maybe this is my virtue of the fact that

00:13:47   i do have two main max that I do stuff

00:13:50   on that that macbook air still feels so

00:13:53   freakin fast to me I mean everything

00:13:56   everything feels so fast it's like it

00:13:57   really is like a completely different

00:13:59   experience and in the memory very first

00:14:02   notice i I've got back and forth on now

00:14:04   back on launch bar but what I really

00:14:06   remember was when i first got it and I

00:14:07   still in Quicksilver it was the first

00:14:08   time in years the Quicksilver was a

00:14:10   no-look app it has been so long since I

00:14:13   could just hit a thing and know that it

00:14:14   was working in type to deny me know

00:14:16   because for a long time it went down as

00:14:19   Quicksilver or my mac but I got to where

00:14:21   I hid the thing and then I look to make

00:14:23   sure it got it and I type to make sure

00:14:26   that had caught up and you know as what

00:14:29   that stuff I think you like this a long

00:14:31   time ago like the name i think that was

00:14:33   you looking to like the difference in

00:14:35   like you know portions of a second in

00:14:37   terms of whether people will buy

00:14:38   something on amazon or on a site its

00:14:40   imperceptible but but you do it is

00:14:43   perceptible somewhere in your brain and

00:14:45   anyway that macbook air just so blazing

00:14:47   fast i think i'm addicted I'm hungry and

00:14:48   that's why I think a person like Marco

00:14:50   who probably a little too much money

00:14:51   like you go out and get that extra

00:14:53   little bit because you don't mean it's

00:14:55   like you know you at least you know in

00:14:56   your mind when you're sitting there and

00:14:58   waiting for the instapaper to get made

00:15:00   at least in your mind your knowing that

00:15:02   there's no chance you could be working

00:15:03   on something that's faster

00:15:04   yeah I I'd see the logic of that I do

00:15:07   especially if you're there it's the same

00:15:08   reason that I think it's worth it to buy

00:15:10   a good chair you know that you're in it

00:15:14   all the time you know I i spent i think

00:15:19   i think i bought this chair about a year

00:15:20   ago but i spent like the last I think

00:15:24   about that chair at ikea in 1999 or

00:15:27   something like that and it was like ikea

00:15:28   price desk chair and it was so I don't

00:15:31   know maybe I spent 60 bucks in 99 on a

00:15:34   chair that I thought was pretty

00:15:36   comfortable it didn't have adjustable

00:15:38   arm rest but they just were perfectly

00:15:41   placed for my arms very comfortable

00:15:43   chair and I sat in that chair my home

00:15:45   office until like last year i think and

00:15:48   then it finally they literally just

00:15:49   broke and my standards for buying a

00:15:52   chair where well i think you know 70 80

00:15:55   bucks is about what you spend on an

00:15:56   office chair and you know what I thought

00:15:58   that's not i should get seduced and

00:16:00   research because I'm there I'm here all

00:16:02   day long I'm here I don't know how long

00:16:04   do I work i think i work at least an

00:16:05   hour a day or more importantly spend it

00:16:09   in like three minutes in vegas exactly

00:16:10   so i don't know i know i said i got this

00:16:12   chair and i love it and i think i spent

00:16:14   I don't like seven hundred dollars on it

00:16:16   or something like them which seems crazy

00:16:18   to me it still seems crazy than air on

00:16:21   that it's it's not an aeron it's like

00:16:23   it's like an errand i forget the name of

00:16:26   it but it might even have been designed

00:16:28   but it's like super adjustable air

00:16:30   economic chuckles yeah it doesn't have I

00:16:34   don't think anywhere near as many points

00:16:36   of adjustment as as an actual air on but

00:16:39   it's like that and it has a couple of

00:16:41   key ways that it's adjustable and it

00:16:44   just it's have it set up just right and

00:16:46   I always you know very very comfortable

00:16:48   in the chair but it's worth it for you

00:16:50   know because I expect to have this chair

00:16:52   at least 10 years that's like a sharp

00:16:55   knife in the kitchen

00:16:56   exactly i mean it's it's not that much

00:16:58   more money to get and maintain a good

00:17:00   knife and keep it sharp because you're

00:17:03   going to be driven a little bit crazy

00:17:04   every time you almost cut your finger

00:17:06   every time you touch a cucumber

00:17:07   that's no way to live I i agree with you

00:17:10   and that's why I mean like I don't know

00:17:11   that again i have so much like probably

00:17:13   out-of-date accumulated Mac conventional

00:17:16   wisdom in my head but I still always

00:17:18   feel like if you're gonna buy a mac by

00:17:21   the by the top-of-the-line one in

00:17:22   whatever you're buying by putting as

00:17:24   much room as you can get the biggest

00:17:26   hard drive you can everything everything

00:17:27   and even if its imperceptible like when

00:17:29   I got that macbook air I got the most

00:17:30   tricked-out when I could because there's

00:17:32   never going to be a day where I go I

00:17:33   wish this thing was just a little bit

00:17:34   slower and you can you know the ram you

00:17:38   can always use more RAM that's number

00:17:39   you're never going to know

00:17:40   I need more ram exactly now I totally

00:17:43   agree it is funny that I think about

00:17:45   that i mean i use your mark down

00:17:47   I mean it's what I to the point where

00:17:49   people are sick of hearing about it it's

00:17:50   what I do all day long and what is that

00:17:52   I mean it's has a text file and then

00:17:55   occasionally it runs a little filter and

00:17:58   but i mean that's that's really the

00:17:59   extent acorn like I go in a corner and I

00:18:02   do stuff in layers and I mean it's

00:18:04   nothing like what I used to do with

00:18:05   photoshop back in the day it's kind of

00:18:07   funny though that computing power has

00:18:09   gone through the roof

00:18:11   I'm doing less and less stuff that would

00:18:12   need it I don't play games you know what

00:18:15   i mean but it does make a difference in

00:18:17   your if you like workflow there's so

00:18:19   many little things if you have added

00:18:21   little bits of stuff to make your

00:18:22   computer work more the way you want

00:18:25   I think it will tolerate a lot of that

00:18:26   stuff better we have more like I almost

00:18:28   want to say like I don't know

00:18:30   headroom like you just you're not gonna

00:18:32   run into those barriers as fast you're

00:18:34   not going to have to like delete stuff

00:18:35   from your drive is often you're not

00:18:36   going to have to like you know run all

00:18:39   those utilities we used to have to run

00:18:40   to find out what weird thing was causing

00:18:42   the problem that i like the chair

00:18:45   analogy though I freaked my god I'm

00:18:48   under strict forgetting I'm under strict

00:18:49   orders from my family to get a new chair

00:18:51   it's it's become it looks like something

00:18:53   that like used to be a well-loved teddy

00:18:54   bear and now like somebody at bus

00:18:56   stations been sleeping on its it is it

00:18:59   is disgusting and it's not economic and

00:19:01   I can't feel my left off

00:19:02   I think the problem is with you you

00:19:05   should got the air on because now you

00:19:06   don't have the the triceps flexor now it

00:19:09   is it's going to have an unarmed it is

00:19:11   also mine is like an air on which is in

00:19:14   that it's like a mesh you know like

00:19:17   instead of a padded foam thing that you

00:19:19   sit on it it's a mesh thing which I

00:19:23   think if you know if you really want to

00:19:25   think about the accumulated to that go

00:19:28   into a chair i do think that's the way

00:19:30   to go for long-term maybe not it get to

00:19:33   scatological but there's something oh

00:19:37   you're seeing air that thing out a

00:19:39   little that you know I'm saying that

00:19:40   that uh I'm saying that maybe that that

00:19:43   ikea one that I had for 12 years had a

00:19:45   lot of

00:19:45   you know maybe i shouldn'ta just

00:19:46   throwing it out the trash maybe I should

00:19:48   have taken that to like a some kind of

00:19:50   special disposal we ever get stuff like

00:19:52   you know it's so crazy making and get

00:19:54   stuff in the mail that's got like

00:19:55   private information on your life haha

00:19:57   now i don't want credit card thing I

00:19:59   don't want this and then what do you

00:20:00   gotta tear off all of your identifying

00:20:02   information if you're like me in your

00:20:04   weirdo either like shred it or you tear

00:20:06   it into pieces and put in different

00:20:07   trash cans friends not mean in your case

00:20:09   you probably should have cut out i don't

00:20:11   wanna say the center of the seat

00:20:13   you should have cut out at least an oval

00:20:16   right after going out and a an asshole i

00:20:18   don't think that ass ellipses and then

00:20:20   you should probably either shred that or

00:20:22   put that in several garbage cans maybe

00:20:23   hazmat bag exact nobody's going to want

00:20:25   that you put on the street you can harm

00:20:26   a kid exactly you live in Philadelphia

00:20:29   hear you you like a good meal i don't

00:20:33   know i did try something drives me crazy

00:20:35   like on NPR when they're constantly

00:20:37   advertising the the Aeron chair and true

00:20:40   black I don't know if you get that their

00:20:41   know every time I hear that get angry

00:20:43   about aeron chairs like I don't know

00:20:45   exclusive movies really Aeron chair now

00:20:48   available in true black and you're like

00:20:49   oh god damn it I wish I hadn't bought

00:20:52   just that horse crap black one a few

00:20:54   years ago as it really is closer to

00:20:56   charcoal and now i have no i have not

00:20:57   heard this what is the difference do

00:20:59   they explain the difference between

00:21:00   black and true don't think they need to

00:21:02   explain i think you keep your Johnson

00:21:04   rod type situation with this chair stuff

00:21:06   i mean i think i think it's around all

00:21:07   the way down you could use always

00:21:09   probably I'm guessing there's always

00:21:11   more costly like mattresses you know a

00:21:12   racquetball yeah are right

00:21:14   same deal also can i just say mattresses

00:21:16   another situation we should probably cut

00:21:18   the ellipsis yeah well probably several

00:21:20   lipsy especially if you have made my

00:21:21   need a shredder like a giant industrial

00:21:23   sized shredder you should this room i

00:21:25   think the shredder

00:21:26   I don't listen to the radio much I don't

00:21:28   want the commercial radio much but when

00:21:30   I do it's all about mattresses

00:21:31   I'm just think there's a lot of

00:21:32   mattresses out there that probably

00:21:33   should be dealt with you know you see

00:21:35   the street mattresses right you get

00:21:37   Street mattresses i have you mean when

00:21:40   you see mattresses on the city is what

00:21:42   ya people just add they're not that they

00:21:44   put this way John they're not putting a

00:21:45   lot of care into what happens to the

00:21:47   mattress a lot it's a lot of stuff has

00:21:48   gone down on that mattress Jonas Jonas

00:21:50   and I have a running gag when we see a

00:21:52   street mattress this is something you

00:21:54   see in it and you know I think any urban

00:21:57   area you often to see a mattress

00:21:59   shoes on the wires you just see matches

00:22:01   some artichoke is you do you want a nap

00:22:03   haha i don't know what i would do we got

00:22:09   one of those

00:22:10   we got a fully Swedish one but now you

00:22:13   got me thinking about the that that

00:22:15   aerated but hammock and now it's gonna

00:22:18   be troubling to me and I feel like I'm

00:22:20   to need to stand up every time I need to

00:22:21   break when i'm i'm thinking the true

00:22:23   black Iran is that you say that and all

00:22:26   I can think of is the the business card

00:22:29   scene from american psycho haha yeah

00:22:33   right and they're talking about their

00:22:35   errands and then the last guy he says

00:22:37   well there's true black and then the guy

00:22:40   knows you know then he gets like the

00:22:41   sweat because he knows he's he's been

00:22:43   beaten doesn't have to but that's the

00:22:46   sort of thing that's why I was reluctant

00:22:47   to to even consider these

00:22:50   five-hundred-dollar and more office

00:22:52   chairs because I just didn't want to get

00:22:54   into that whole thing at night you know

00:22:56   that don't you feel like a sucker

00:22:58   I mean like a sucker for spending I mean

00:23:00   about you but like I don't spend seven

00:23:02   hundred dollars on chair is very often

00:23:03   but sometimes I'll go like you know I

00:23:06   need to go spend some money myself to

00:23:07   feel good

00:23:08   let's say maybe the chair and the chair

00:23:09   is a good way to do that I don't spend

00:23:11   that much less a lot of dough for me but

00:23:13   my problem is i would go in there and I

00:23:15   would want some kind of John syracuse

00:23:17   with me i would want some kind of

00:23:19   seating lawyer who could go in there and

00:23:21   make sure that i'm not getting the

00:23:22   screwgy right because I i could easily

00:23:24   go in there like the mattress thing

00:23:26   which let's be clear

00:23:27   it is a racket mattresses are a

00:23:29   reference but in my case it's the same

00:23:31   for everything i buy and and you know

00:23:33   really to nothing not to be on topic but

00:23:35   one thing to apples credit is really

00:23:37   only so many things you can do to trick

00:23:39   it out you can go and get like a you

00:23:41   know a calfskin case for your dingus but

00:23:45   by and large you know you're not gonna

00:23:46   be able to get you can't get like you

00:23:47   know what ninety six gigs of ram just to

00:23:51   say you've got it

00:23:52   the device will work fine with with this

00:23:55   kind of thing I think this is an upscale

00:23:57   marketing John I think there are always

00:23:58   add-ons like you like Las Vegas but

00:24:00   there's always a nice sweet you can get

00:24:02   a bittersweet no one's been in yet

00:24:03   there's one that they've just been sick

00:24:05   like maybe that maybe that's the gimmick

00:24:07   gimmick is else it's a virgin sweet

00:24:10   thats

00:24:12   good i can see two sexy two reasons for

00:24:14   that I can see the one is which is like

00:24:16   no don't even look over there like that

00:24:17   that's not for you

00:24:19   no one's ever been in there and that

00:24:20   makes them want to upgrade but also for

00:24:23   somebody who is a cost-conscious multi

00:24:25   Chamillionaire you go and sit in your

00:24:27   second nice and sweet like we gotta put

00:24:30   a pope sweet

00:24:31   we also got a pope john paul sweet

00:24:33   obviously the man's deceased God rest

00:24:34   his soul

00:24:35   he's never even in i would like the vice

00:24:36   presidential suite

00:24:38   there's a lot of ice in Vegas you know

00:24:43   electoral system say stays and I would

00:24:46   like I would like the second wedding

00:24:48   suite ma you know we're here on a budget

00:24:54   during the practice wedding suite given

00:24:55   the first giving the first marriage

00:24:57   sweet it's in there you got some get

00:24:59   some get some cooks and you got some

00:25:02   some things that will eventually become

00:25:04   misunderstandings maybe a fruit basket

00:25:06   you go on your it's your second marriage

00:25:08   and you go on your honeymoon and then

00:25:09   that night did you know the first night

00:25:10   you're out any call this solemn over to

00:25:13   your table and you're like hey this is

00:25:14   our honeymoon

00:25:15   let's go big but hey second marriage

00:25:18   haha

00:25:20   there's a classic line from The Simpsons

00:25:22   that I use all the time was celebrating

00:25:24   the anniversary of Homer says waiter

00:25:26   bring us a bottle of your second sheet

00:25:28   see second your second sheet with stamp

00:25:32   yeah you know it's hard yeah I think I

00:25:34   think you realize you know how God don't

00:25:36   get me started on weddings but ok so for

00:25:38   example though I'm i am so on economic

00:25:41   and I had an irk pinched nerve recently

00:25:43   that was really really awful and i think

00:25:46   i'm still getting rid of it a little bit

00:25:47   but my economic situation is bad and I'm

00:25:49   gonna confess something on your program

00:25:51   that I've never I don't think and fast

00:25:53   before which is the my desk I was

00:25:56   frustrated with the size of desks

00:25:57   because i used to be a very messy desk

00:25:59   person I'm just I'm just not think about

00:26:01   it does person now but I used to be when

00:26:04   I had a job i had piles and piles and

00:26:06   piles of stuff on my desk but the worst

00:26:09   part is and this is I'm gonna confess

00:26:10   something to you I don't think I've ever

00:26:11   said before the desk that I have is

00:26:13   actually it's a cafeteria table that I

00:26:18   stole from my college

00:26:20   ok so if anybody's ever seen a photo of

00:26:25   of anything I've ever done on my desk

00:26:26   you'll see it's this fake wood grain and

00:26:28   it's one of those giant like folding

00:26:30   tables that she would have and say a

00:26:33   student center in sarasota florida so

00:26:36   it's a it's a good height for eating and

00:26:38   expensive food but it's it's not a great

00:26:40   height for doing work so I'm doing you

00:26:43   know the key rookie mistake and

00:26:45   economics as i understand it I stuff

00:26:47   aside is that my elbows are lower than

00:26:49   my hands and this is why I can't feel my

00:26:51   arm you have that no I i'm actually i

00:26:55   think in terms of I don't know I'm sure

00:26:56   an expert could come in and correct me

00:26:58   now long ago I had enough wrist pain and

00:27:01   and etc that I did the research and

00:27:03   bought a desk that a very low so my

00:27:06   wrists are always lower than my elbows

00:27:08   to have one of those fruity keyboard

00:27:10   drop deals with a little drawer

00:27:11   no doesn't seem a little bit on

00:27:14   masculine know-it-all does i think is

00:27:17   working on it

00:27:18   you know I think any time you introduce

00:27:19   hinges or or anything that's like a

00:27:22   drawer it's kind of masculine remember

00:27:24   when you get a rollout mouse drawer you

00:27:26   go to get the office depot you can roll

00:27:28   out my story and that and you get that

00:27:30   little meeting at the CD billy bookcase

00:27:32   type box thing we could put cds on your

00:27:35   desk

00:27:35   remember that yeah I do and I always

00:27:36   you're always remember thinking with the

00:27:38   mouse tour wool when you're gonna put

00:27:40   that away

00:27:41   I mean I guess maybe you know other

00:27:43   people aren't like me and if they're

00:27:44   they're doing other things at their desk

00:27:46   then using their computer but if i'm at

00:27:47   my desk i'm using the computer why in

00:27:49   the world would i want to put the mouse

00:27:50   way especially then

00:27:51   yeah right exactly exactly even if

00:27:53   you're and and you know what I said the

00:27:54   same thing until I started having

00:27:56   relatives and and now my relatives have

00:27:59   these kinds of things where it's not

00:28:00   really a good like think nights not a

00:28:03   nice desk to have in your kitchen and

00:28:05   it's really not a nice computer space

00:28:07   either it's got bills and pictures all

00:28:09   pictures of the kids from when they were

00:28:11   cute and then you got your mousing area

00:28:13   i totally agree i think this is why is

00:28:17   why I'm so angry about my macpro

00:28:18   mountain lion is I is ugly and gross and

00:28:21   hygienic as my setup is here

00:28:23   it works like everything's where I

00:28:25   wanted to be you know i mean i don't

00:28:27   have to noodle with stuff I've got the

00:28:29   dell 30-inch deal here I got a dell 20

00:28:32   whatever we're back in the day when you

00:28:34   get the radius turn it on its side i do

00:28:36   that's what I do

00:28:38   so I've got my main

00:28:38   screen and I know according to all the

00:28:40   nerve suppose to have like seven of the

00:28:41   same screen you know but I've got a 30

00:28:44   inch dell in front of my face here and

00:28:47   then I off to the right I got my other

00:28:49   dell that generic del everybody has to

00:28:51   turn to the side and that's where I keep

00:28:52   my mark that app running so i can see

00:28:55   the big document in a portrait but it

00:28:58   all works great and I got the clicky

00:29:00   keyboard and it just it all works

00:29:02   together and I think I'd be giving away

00:29:04   something if I had either a mouse drawer

00:29:06   or or it now you have just doesn't seem

00:29:09   weird to do the gig you have a clicky

00:29:11   keyboard but you run it laid down your

00:29:13   macbook pro now i'm running lid open but

00:29:16   screen off its off to the side off to

00:29:21   the side so ministry is not distracting

00:29:23   now because it's it's turn the other way

00:29:25   to turn sideways

00:29:26   I don't like that at all

00:29:29   well it's not good install it all looks

00:29:33   terrible it really does i I can't even

00:29:34   send you a photo because it's i think

00:29:36   i've seen some pictures and it looks

00:29:38   like something out of Brazil it's not

00:29:40   crowded for a man of your stature is a

00:29:42   little crowded in your room

00:29:44   yeah it is but I kind of but I'd I need

00:29:46   a small room because I will however big

00:29:48   the rumors that I'll just fill it up

00:29:49   with junk like Andy Rooney can ask a

00:29:53   candid question

00:29:53   yeah and this have anything to do with

00:29:56   your TV is it

00:29:57   I don't want to be judgy but is there

00:29:59   any chance that your TV has become a

00:30:01   problem

00:30:01   no why would my TV be a problem because

00:30:03   you have the largest TV anyways everyone

00:30:05   is it in a different room

00:30:07   okc but here's what I'm saying has an

00:30:09   ottoman moved in there maybe books know

00:30:12   how many records you got like Tom Petty

00:30:13   maybe some tom petty records need to be

00:30:15   in the other room which have so much TV

00:30:16   that you're just no room in there now

00:30:18   that's all you know that bathroom is

00:30:20   great but that's because i have nothing

00:30:21   to do with that room from just a sofa

00:30:24   and a giant hundred and seventy two inch

00:30:27   plasma screen that's incredible

00:30:29   now you could burn in with that I nope

00:30:33   no you don't have to run a screensaver

00:30:36   on that or anything just leave it on all

00:30:37   the time now while you turn it off when

00:30:38   you're done watching watching your shows

00:30:40   don't leave a pause you know

00:30:42   Syracuse's got me spooked about that he

00:30:44   has his he shuts it off the second he

00:30:46   has to go and take a whiz shut the whole

00:30:48   thing down all the way down now

00:30:50   I don't do that do a worry about that I

00:30:53   we've got a really really we need to get

00:30:55   a new t monitor deal

00:30:57   it sets from costco and it's got like

00:31:00   three big black marks on the screen at

00:31:03   the top that doesn't sound good looks

00:31:05   cloudy i don't think that supposed to be

00:31:06   like that i don't know we have mac mini

00:31:10   running at home for all of our media

00:31:11   stuff but it's it's not first first

00:31:15   generation but it's old and it being

00:31:18   serious is this sounds crazy but it's

00:31:19   kind of related when you're on a macbook

00:31:20   air a lot of the day or if I'm an ipad

00:31:22   the ipad 2 is a thousand times faster

00:31:24   than the thing that's running DMVs

00:31:27   whatever those are or mkvs whatever

00:31:29   those are you don't mean no I dunno even

00:31:32   you're mostly an apple TV man though

00:31:34   right yeah pretty much everything I

00:31:36   watches appletv are you streaming it

00:31:38   running off a local box streaming from

00:31:42   just connect to itunes and if it's not

00:31:43   on itunes then I'm i'm not watching if

00:31:46   you'd asked me six months ago whether

00:31:47   that would work i would say sometimes I

00:31:49   can't believe how well that works it

00:31:51   works really well it's one of the few

00:31:53   things apple has going on in the cloud

00:31:55   that I think they've really got down

00:31:57   stone cold

00:31:59   no I there's like three things in that

00:32:03   space that they're getting right and

00:32:04   almost everything else is a mess

00:32:05   yeah i totally agree with you last I

00:32:07   told you I think it actually I don't

00:32:09   it was in messages that app so it

00:32:11   probably didn't go through what I was

00:32:12   telling you i watch the I was meant to

00:32:14   tell you i watch the Johnny Carson thing

00:32:15   I which is which is really really

00:32:18   interesting but I watched it like you

00:32:20   suggested i watched on my iPad in the

00:32:22   PBS app right which was completely crazy

00:32:25   making it was like after I got my iphone

00:32:26   and I had to go back to occasionally

00:32:28   doing anything on my chubby or or nuvi I

00:32:32   guess anything that ends with an is

00:32:34   going to be a terrible interface because

00:32:35   i feel like i had to punch it had to get

00:32:36   a special prodding stick to make the

00:32:38   chumby work you don't mean like when

00:32:40   your kid picks up a kindle and tries to

00:32:42   touch the screen

00:32:43   yep that's how I felt I've gotten so

00:32:45   spoiled already on apple TV streaming

00:32:47   that like when I want to watch this PBS

00:32:50   thing and like a notification popped up

00:32:52   and then i have to like start over or

00:32:54   something was so weird

00:32:55   yeah I run into that sometimes with the

00:33:01   baseball games because i have the

00:33:02   mentality yeah and it works great on

00:33:04   apple TV but every once in awhile and I

00:33:07   don't even think it's happening this

00:33:07   season but every once in a while like

00:33:09   that the streaming on apple TV with MLB

00:33:12   would get get janky and i would think

00:33:15   while switch to my phone because it's

00:33:17   right here in my pocket and do the

00:33:19   airplay to the apple TV and then that's

00:33:22   just as good but then all of a sudden

00:33:23   one somebody sends you a text message in

00:33:25   the whole thing just falls apart because

00:33:26   the phone like drops the airplay so it

00:33:29   can show you that the alert

00:33:32   I i find that extremely frustrating and

00:33:35   uh personally and I i if I had my

00:33:39   druthers I would wish that that would

00:33:41   work a little bit differently and here's

00:33:43   a use case from from literally 10

00:33:45   minutes before our call

00:33:46   I was on I was on a phone call with

00:33:48   somebody long phone call and you know a

00:33:50   long phone call means four minutes 45

00:33:51   you gotta do gonna take a little

00:33:53   breather in between right yeah got to

00:33:55   spend a penny and so I jonathan coulton

00:33:58   got to hear me urinate for about 15

00:34:00   seconds because i thought that i had hit

00:34:02   the thing it shut off the call but the

00:34:06   dingus was up telling me that I had a

00:34:08   podcast with john gruber in 10 minutes

00:34:10   it's jonathan got a little cross country

00:34:12   treat that doesn't it seem like i should

00:34:15   be able to hit the red button

00:34:17   I mean you know there's always the joke

00:34:20   about like you can't like slam the phone

00:34:21   down with anybody with a mobile phone

00:34:23   like a feature phone doesn't seem weird

00:34:25   that I have to dismiss a pop-up in order

00:34:28   to like turn the phone off yeah i think

00:34:30   that the popups those blue pop up alerts

00:34:33   and iOS are oddly modal they're like the

00:34:36   JavaScript alerts you know when you just

00:34:38   in JavaScript you just type alert space

00:34:41   you know whatever the string here and

00:34:43   you get this thing that just pops up and

00:34:46   you can't use anything else in your

00:34:47   browser until you you know it seems

00:34:49   oddly reminds me of of not os9 but

00:34:52   whatever system nine well-liked system

00:34:54   we could six though you know what I mean

00:34:55   where everything where you had to click

00:34:57   ok or cancel and that was it you could

00:34:59   write desktop to click on write any time

00:35:01   an alert and any app would come up it

00:35:03   was system model you couldn't switch to

00:35:05   another app you had to do it just seems

00:35:07   very very model it just seems I don't

00:35:10   just one of those things where I think i

00:35:11   missed it in my

00:35:12   hey little things apple could fix in

00:35:14   ios6 just seems like they should I don't

00:35:17   know be at the top and slide down and

00:35:20   just sit there until you deal with them

00:35:22   you know sort of sort of more like a not

00:35:26   called what's the thing called on the

00:35:27   mac that now they have in the

00:35:29   Notification Center in Mountain Lion the

00:35:31   like we choose between it's almost like

00:35:35   he's talking about like the thing that's

00:35:36   like a growl ya around

00:35:38   it should be like growl in the way that

00:35:40   they've done it in it should just be

00:35:41   there any and will be visible and you if

00:35:44   you're looking at your phone you can't

00:35:45   miss it it's there but it doesn't

00:35:47   interrupt everything that's going on to

00:35:49   too much of that would be a little

00:35:50   android but but you know how you can

00:35:52   choose when you get a notification

00:35:53   center you can choose like nine and by

00:35:56   the way what a mess you know having me

00:36:00   on the show another time working just

00:36:01   wine and I got so much to worry about

00:36:03   right now

00:36:03   what you don't let me before you keep on

00:36:05   me to stop and do it yeah we have energy

00:36:07   everything we talked about that you like

00:36:08   I do I think you're gonna like this one

00:36:10   okay i want to tell you about Launch

00:36:12   Center pro from our friends at appt

00:36:15   cubby i'm predicting that you've heard

00:36:17   of this app big fan

00:36:19   it's an app for the iphone and I think

00:36:25   it's one of those apps it's really

00:36:26   really hard to describe it's sort of

00:36:28   like in in theory maybe sort of like a

00:36:31   quicksilver for iOS and i just wrote

00:36:34   this the other day about the Chrome for

00:36:37   iOS where if you want to fire off a

00:36:39   bookmarklet and chrome for iOS you have

00:36:41   to type it in their little omnibox you

00:36:43   up there and type this box retype urls

00:36:45   and search queries you can also type the

00:36:47   name of one of your bookmarks and if

00:36:49   it's a bookmark let then you can fire it

00:36:51   off but whereas on safari users tap

00:36:54   bookmarks and then there's a list of

00:36:56   your bookmarks so tap tap

00:36:57   you've done it on iOS I like to tap I

00:37:00   don't like the night I was when you and

00:37:02   your little short piece i was telling

00:37:03   with you I thought I open chrome and was

00:37:05   completely perplexed right and I like

00:37:07   where I would go I rely very heavily on

00:37:09   safari I have a very carefully crafted

00:37:12   series of bookmarking to show up first

00:37:14   exactly like it's like I've made my own

00:37:16   little interface to Safari which is like

00:37:18   the top six bookmarklets in my bookmarks

00:37:20   list which do things and I know exactly

00:37:22   i can almost navigate by this

00:37:25   that's without even looking I use on the

00:37:28   mac i use launch bar which is you know

00:37:31   competitive quicksilver's Alfred's

00:37:33   another one and these are these things

00:37:35   where you'd fire them up you type

00:37:36   something and hit return Launch Center

00:37:38   pro is the same thing in theory for iOS

00:37:41   but instead of firing it and typing

00:37:43   something you fire it and you tap

00:37:45   something and it's all customizable you

00:37:47   can configure it for the shortcuts you

00:37:49   need and the idea is that you're going

00:37:52   to put it somewhere where it's super

00:37:54   super convenient

00:37:54   I think it's really honestly I think

00:37:56   it's intended to be in the doc it's

00:37:57   supposed to be one of your like top four

00:37:59   things and what you can do is you could

00:38:01   take something out like let's say your

00:38:03   phone app take it out and create Launch

00:38:06   Center shortcuts for the people you call

00:38:08   the most frequently and then you go home

00:38:11   screen launch center boom call Merlin

00:38:15   because I call you I mean I probably

00:38:16   call you three four times a day at least

00:38:19   especially on weekends I actually

00:38:23   there's only one thing that's

00:38:23   frustrating about this app which is that

00:38:25   you have to launch it at all right

00:38:26   because once it's open there's nothing

00:38:29   the closest i can think of is not funny

00:38:31   i like a lot of people like I use search

00:38:34   on iOS like I would Quicksilver like I'm

00:38:36   forever I don't like flipping around so

00:38:39   like if I know I want to get to

00:38:40   something and I filled every screen I

00:38:42   got to that point where I can't see all

00:38:43   my apps you know what i mean so i'll

00:38:45   flip over to search and type in some

00:38:47   letters and that pulls up a nap that's

00:38:49   great but the thing Launch Center I

00:38:51   don't hijack your thing here but I

00:38:52   really been using this app and it's

00:38:54   amazing you're right you going to

00:38:56   customize but it's not even it's not

00:38:58   even just a launcher it's and your pride

00:39:00   getting to this but what's amazing is

00:39:02   you can go in and with a click you could

00:39:04   do things like create an item in a

00:39:06   calendar-like all agenda create an item

00:39:08   with this location create an item with

00:39:11   this default title so like

00:39:12   daddy-daughter time is is a that's a

00:39:14   button i click that you can then you can

00:39:16   also have putting the clipboard or put

00:39:18   in a contact name or put in input like

00:39:20   manual input and make stuff like

00:39:22   creating an OmniFocus task dialing a

00:39:24   number sending a message to this person

00:39:26   it's got little variables it's a little

00:39:28   bit limited but it's growing and you can

00:39:30   launch apps

00:39:31   it's aight i think it's a terrific app a

00:39:34   special note just for you and

00:39:37   upcoming version 1.03 and at the top of

00:39:41   their list text expander support you and

00:39:46   Errol attack spinners and it works in

00:39:48   the applique can explode text and

00:39:49   shortcuts

00:39:50   I think it's going to explode

00:39:51   TextExpander shortcuts gonna that would

00:39:53   be that would be magic it you just have

00:39:58   to see it and it also i have to admit I

00:40:00   was very skeptical and this is from our

00:40:02   friends at apco bead David Bernard is

00:40:04   sort of the pool bar over there and he's

00:40:07   he's a great guy i've linked to many

00:40:09   times from during far but he's also very

00:40:10   open about his iOS experiences he's

00:40:15   documents you know pretty much open

00:40:18   kimono the financial aspects of being in

00:40:21   indy iOS developer and he sort of

00:40:23   admitted that launch center was sort of

00:40:26   just under just a little like scratching

00:40:28   his own niche idea and it's turned into

00:40:31   a big hit for them i think it's going to

00:40:32   get the top of some a lot of these lists

00:40:34   in the appstore afternoon when i first

00:40:37   heard it I didn't even think it was

00:40:38   possible because it seems like that sort

00:40:40   of extending the system type of utility

00:40:44   isn't really possible and i'll say what

00:40:46   it seems like it seems like one of those

00:40:48   apps that goes unlock your screen with a

00:40:50   gesture or you don't mean one of those

00:40:53   after like use your fingerprint and it's

00:40:55   totally not that that's why it's got one

00:40:57   star reviews it seems like it's one it

00:40:59   seems like one of those and I'm saying

00:41:00   it's not this but there's all these apps

00:41:02   that get on the top ten the with a joke

00:41:04   right

00:41:05   it seems like a joke and when I open

00:41:06   this thing up i thought oh haha how

00:41:09   funny is that click here to add an army

00:41:11   focus task with an input thing or and

00:41:13   it's hard to explain this except it's

00:41:14   it's getting i would put it up with

00:41:17   maybe why don't you know yeah you know I

00:41:19   don't understand computers i would put

00:41:21   it up with one password and text

00:41:23   expander in the oh my god how did they

00:41:24   get away with something that's useful

00:41:26   right because there's so and I don't

00:41:28   know how this is working but more apps

00:41:30   seem to get added to this we

00:41:32   yes it's great to be able to launch the

00:41:33   app I don't know if it's fun being clear

00:41:35   about this

00:41:36   you can have preset stuff if you do

00:41:38   stuff all the time it's all in there

00:41:40   it's all in this is why i say the only

00:41:41   thing is frustrating having to launch it

00:41:43   I i wish it was open all the time in the

00:41:45   same way that you use a full-time so i

00:41:47   hijacked your and that's alright it's

00:41:48   really i mean i've really you

00:41:50   did you tell me this was going to be the

00:41:51   sponsor did I know this no you did not

00:41:53   know this is all from my heart is on top

00:41:56   secret I don't tell anybody I spring the

00:41:57   sponsors on on the guest of the show

00:41:59   see that's where you got to make people

00:42:00   wait for it exactly but I mean I I'm

00:42:03   just telling you as merlin mann former

00:42:05   productivity guru I i think this is

00:42:07   really useful and if there's some way

00:42:09   that you guys keep that in nebulous

00:42:10   notes that would be really awesome but

00:42:12   launched a text file with this stuff in

00:42:14   it if you just think it's one of the

00:42:16   things like text expander and i am an

00:42:18   alternate text and rapper like me want

00:42:20   to use text expander you feel like a

00:42:21   sucker to to not use it i find myself

00:42:23   gravitating toward a nap i will write an

00:42:25   email in nebulous names just because

00:42:27   it's got all the stuff I one in it and

00:42:29   in this instance I mean I see this

00:42:31   applet some very interesting places as

00:42:33   long as it can that get away with it

00:42:36   well one of the things that really takes

00:42:38   advantage of and I think that the the

00:42:39   heart and soul of the launch center pro

00:42:42   is this these URLs that app support and

00:42:45   I think it's most people don't know

00:42:47   about this even people like nerds and

00:42:49   people who listen to our shows don't

00:42:51   know that on iOS really the only way one

00:42:53   app can talk to another is through

00:42:55   custom URLs and so like you could have a

00:42:58   note-taking app like by word or

00:43:01   something like that where by word has a

00:43:04   special URL instead of HTTP colon slash

00:43:07   slash it's like byword a / x dash by

00:43:10   word I don't know what it is but Launch

00:43:12   Center is programmed with knows about

00:43:14   all of these hundreds maybe I don't know

00:43:17   but doesn't say anything in the dingus

00:43:19   hear their sites that will show you

00:43:21   write that there are so many like if you

00:43:24   put one password at one time for colon

00:43:25   slash slash the it works it's an earl

00:43:28   scheme just like would work on the web

00:43:29   or as a lot of people don't know on your

00:43:31   Mac as well right and so Launch Center

00:43:34   he knows about these things it already

00:43:36   knows the format for these things so you

00:43:38   fill them in so you you can do stuff

00:43:40   it's really surprising the shortcuts you

00:43:42   can make so if you always want to fire

00:43:44   off a new note in this one app for

00:43:47   certain things

00:43:48   boom here to taps away one tap on launch

00:43:51   center one tap on your custom shortcut

00:43:53   that you've made for the thing that you

00:43:55   do the most frequently it's a great app

00:43:58   you can visit apka b.com for more

00:44:01   information and they have a demo video

00:44:04   or just search for launch center in the

00:44:06   app store things like buck 99 290 and

00:44:10   something like that i don't want your ad

00:44:12   to Longwood maybe after we're done i'll

00:44:13   give you a couple of these because I got

00:44:15   some good ones in here

00:44:16   yeah I knew you would love this app

00:44:17   because you're the master of stuff like

00:44:19   this how this you going to buy one of

00:44:21   those stupid is you don't have the

00:44:22   answers over but you know you go on but

00:44:24   when the stupid flashlight apps

00:44:25   how about this you hit a button called

00:44:26   flashlight and it hits your LED doing a

00:44:29   hundred percent Houthis have used toggle

00:44:31   here talking with giant like so you want

00:44:34   to keep your lady up or or I'm sorry

00:44:36   your bachelors partner and so you hit

00:44:38   toggle and you have a selection of two

00:44:40   ranges you pick a number between one and

00:44:42   a hundred and they want to hit toggle

00:44:44   change the parental how this works John

00:44:46   Gruber you hit toggle and suddenly my

00:44:48   screen changes to 2% brightness I hit it

00:44:51   again it goes to like what I keep it on

00:44:53   sixty sixty percent brightness but you

00:44:54   go in and you pick what that is

00:44:57   I'm and that sounds weird but like how I

00:44:59   mean think about this this is one that I

00:45:01   loved on my HTC android that i missed

00:45:03   here is the ability like flipping and

00:45:05   you flip bluetooth on and off or

00:45:06   whatever but you have to go change your

00:45:08   your embed your ipad i can't get an ipad

00:45:10   dark enough to not keep my wife awake

00:45:12   but in this instance yeah but you're

00:45:15   saying and where somebody hit dropbox

00:45:17   you go do a thing it's like it'sit's

00:45:19   crazy and then anything to do with

00:45:20   contacts this is going to obviate 50

00:45:22   different no offense to anybody else but

00:45:23   it'll obviate like five other apps that

00:45:26   you might be using for this hockey stuff

00:45:27   because you can just say make a phone

00:45:29   call to this person with this one click

00:45:31   I'm sorry I'm going onto i'm going to

00:45:32   try i'd i'd you went real fast you got

00:45:34   real Merlin either but powerful thing is

00:45:36   fascinating it's you hit this button and

00:45:38   it toggles your screen brightness

00:45:40   between like super bright you need it

00:45:42   because the sun shining in your eyes not

00:45:44   going to see it or really really dim

00:45:45   like it's the like you said like it's

00:45:47   your in bed it's nighttime and

00:45:49   somebody's next you trying to sleep two

00:45:52   taps away instead of fishing into the

00:45:54   settings app and going down to the end

00:45:55   if you're a nerd you pick axe and why

00:45:57   the room who knew that at third party

00:46:00   house tour and how that's possible can

00:46:02   change that because apparently because

00:46:04   the brightness setting has a you

00:46:05   Apple has a URL that developers can use

00:46:07   a URL scheme for changing the screen

00:46:09   brightness I didn't even know that was

00:46:11   possible not you know this isn't

00:46:13   jailbreak stuff this is right there in

00:46:14   the app store it's great that I've got a

00:46:16   bunch the only Calendar apps on my

00:46:18   favorite calendar app right now is

00:46:19   called calendars it's really really

00:46:21   great but the other thing that I also

00:46:23   really like one called agenda and so I

00:46:25   got one here when i click on this i

00:46:26   click on

00:46:27   so you've got these are described you

00:46:29   got a grid of what's four times three

00:46:31   you got 12 of these buttons on the

00:46:33   screen but then you can have the

00:46:34   equivalent of a folder by clicking and

00:46:37   you don't have to double click on it you

00:46:38   click it and it pops straight up so its

00:46:40   thumb thumb thumb and you're just doing

00:46:42   your thing and so it will go and create

00:46:44   an item and you know whatever I have a

00:46:46   family

00:46:47   let go create like time for me and my

00:46:48   kid to hangout hit that it doesn't

00:46:50   create that you can create with a

00:46:51   certain location and will eat it's there

00:46:52   and like any of this life hack nonsense

00:46:54   if you do anything more than once

00:46:56   automated like red shell script for

00:46:57   whatever in this instance it's all baked

00:46:59   in here the only two downsides yes you

00:47:02   have to launch it would be nice for open

00:47:03   all the time but you know that's a joke

00:47:04   John when I say that I'm saying I wish

00:47:06   this were bound to my home key but the

00:47:10   other thing is i could spend all day

00:47:11   making these because they are so useful

00:47:13   and they're adding new ones all the time

00:47:14   yeah and it's a very quickly be nice it

00:47:16   would be nice if you could set it to

00:47:17   launch on double tap home or something

00:47:20   like that or triple tap home like a way

00:47:22   that you could boom absolutely yeah

00:47:25   anybody's great at creating new textile

00:47:27   Launch Center pro in the App Store you

00:47:30   can do it all well is a new show next

00:47:33   week what you'll have your back and

00:47:34   we'll talk more about our Long Center

00:47:35   shortcut enjoy that do these do i like

00:47:38   to wait for time mercies do i know i

00:47:41   think ideally it to you

00:47:44   oh yeah i do use that usually just

00:47:46   talked to the lady usually no no I do

00:47:49   use Doody tue i use that I learned about

00:47:53   it from your stupid site i think it's

00:47:54   that became the nerd go to timer app has

00:47:57   got natural language and stuff so here

00:47:58   like let's say for example I steep in my

00:48:00   you know you know how important it is to

00:48:02   have a friendly way to make coffee and

00:48:04   everything about this i dunno about that

00:48:05   have an aeropress and I do them doing

00:48:07   the inverse we should talk about this on

00:48:09   our third show i do the inverse but you

00:48:11   know I'm doing two minutes now which is

00:48:13   a little crazy but I will forget about

00:48:14   it

00:48:15   that sounds nuts I know myself well

00:48:16   enough to know I will forget so I've got

00:48:18   a two-minute timer in usability Launch

00:48:22   Center

00:48:22   hit it and I get a 10-minute time boom

00:48:24   do that no no I know anyway now and i

00:48:29   use do for my weekly reminders like

00:48:32   friday afternoon i have a do that goes

00:48:35   off to remind me to thank this week's

00:48:36   daring fireball RSS sponsor by a handle

00:48:40   of vodka exactly or the trash wednesday

00:48:43   night trash on with do that way I i do

00:48:45   that in OmniFocus but yeah that's never

00:48:47   want to think about this but you don't

00:48:48   want that stuff in your calendar either

00:48:49   you know I mean like you don't

00:48:51   absolutely calendar you I just want it

00:48:53   at ten o'clock at night on wednesday

00:48:54   just tell me to take the trash out and

00:48:57   do do has nice little things like for

00:48:59   this week because wednesday was not

00:49:00   trash day because of the great us

00:49:02   holiday then there's a one-button it

00:49:05   just says tomorrow same time

00:49:07   this news is awesome right and it's just

00:49:09   one tap and it's done and it doesn't

00:49:11   give you any of this stuff like hey you

00:49:12   wanted this is a recurring thing you

00:49:14   want to change this for all of them or

00:49:15   just this one you just hit hit tomorrow

00:49:17   and then it bugs me tomorrow

00:49:20   this is the example I always bring up

00:49:21   with this I think we've talked I'm

00:49:23   positive we talked about this before

00:49:24   it's like me bird feed which was a

00:49:28   twitter app then by husband Evan right

00:49:30   yeah and it got me I'm picked up by

00:49:34   grizzly which may have got a little

00:49:36   weird but that was me that Apple's way

00:49:39   whereby got a little weird you may think

00:49:41   you've got trashed but that's a shame

00:49:46   but is that what letters little like

00:49:48   good

00:49:49   yeah well what they did was the funniest

00:49:51   thing about you got to open a woman when

00:49:53   you're not gonna make buzz-buzz can have

00:49:55   a blog post you know where the funniest

00:49:57   thing about that though is that it went

00:49:58   in the strangest possible way which was

00:50:01   that it was say nothing about the

00:50:03   usability of the app just take a look at

00:50:05   it was exquisite

00:50:07   it was exquisite you did not see

00:50:08   anything you didn't need to see it was

00:50:11   he needed to see if your power user you

00:50:13   knew where it was and if you weren't

00:50:14   even care

00:50:15   Nevin Morgan is a designer he now works

00:50:17   at panic alongside cable sasser I mean

00:50:20   that that's the caliber of work that

00:50:22   Nevin does I mean this we're talking

00:50:23   about guy who went on to work i don't

00:50:25   think he worked at panic it maybe he did

00:50:27   but anyway he is bi world-class UI

00:50:30   designer and the app looked like it was

00:50:33   exquisite and then the they sold it to

00:50:35   brazilian grizzly came out

00:50:36   the version that looks like me and you

00:50:37   designed it you know like like on a

00:50:39   cocktail napkin like it wasn't bad per

00:50:42   se

00:50:42   I mean it was you know but it was like

00:50:44   they raced all of the exquisiteness and

00:50:47   it was just sort of genericized you know

00:50:50   I mean like if me and you sat down and

00:50:51   end and fired up photoshop and spend a

00:50:53   week trying to make a twitter app we

00:50:56   could make like what brisley came out

00:50:57   with and then we would hand it to

00:50:59   someone like Nevin and say now make it

00:51:01   look actually good i think they went the

00:51:03   other way like they know they gave us

00:51:04   like giving Natalie Portman trucker cap

00:51:06   is your movement moving in the wrong

00:51:08   direction Johnny but it was not enough

00:51:11   for me now are you are you a tweak tweak

00:51:13   pot user i use the tweet but the sweet

00:51:15   spot for me is another one that paul guy

00:51:17   seems a little aggravated sometimes on

00:51:18   the internet but had I love the sweet

00:51:19   spot he will either he's a pretty little

00:51:22   guy sometimes

00:51:23   yeah but i really like the sweet spot in

00:51:25   those gestures you know there's that is

00:51:27   the st. John I've always loved on max I

00:51:29   guess apple stuff in general which is

00:51:31   this magical thing where I'll do

00:51:33   something and maybe not even realize i

00:51:36   what i was doing and something happens

00:51:38   that i didn't realize i expected to

00:51:40   happen and it worked and suddenly it

00:51:42   feels like a moment of magic and that

00:51:44   happens sometimes now in apps will do

00:51:45   like I'll go you know what I'm going to

00:51:47   try and swipe to the right and see if

00:51:50   this takes me back i took me back to a

00:51:51   list that's so freaking cool the first

00:51:53   time I had motives plugged into my

00:51:55   macbook pro and I i we forgot that I

00:51:58   wasn't on my iPhone and hit mute and

00:52:01   we'll wait a minute commute worked on my

00:52:05   macbook pro you know what I mean that

00:52:08   that's that's so magic when you don't

00:52:09   have to sit there and read documentation

00:52:11   for that stuff it's just it was a term

00:52:14   for this new user experience right the

00:52:15   thing you've most expect to happen when

00:52:17   you do something

00:52:18   yeah there is a term but we'll just call

00:52:21   it the thing that you most expect to

00:52:22   happen but they also but the other thing

00:52:24   is you know and wipe creating this and

00:52:27   stuff like a bar like if I wanted

00:52:28   somebody said something nice about

00:52:29   Roderick on the line and I want to

00:52:31   retune it all that you do a long hold on

00:52:35   the reetou button and ask you which

00:52:36   account you want to that's really that's

00:52:39   really that's really clever because

00:52:41   you're not going on the modality stuff I

00:52:42   gotta change you have to go over here i

00:52:44   got re-enter a thingy

00:52:45   yes I i do understand that there's a lot

00:52:47   of people who think that the whole tap

00:52:49   bots you I aesthetic is too heavy-handed

00:52:52   and because it is i mean it's way over

00:52:54   the top and you know the whole robot

00:52:56   themed and you know I turn off the

00:52:58   sounds like the sounds the only app i

00:53:01   keep that nonsense on I sometimes I get

00:53:03   but sometimes i'll fire up a new device

00:53:05   and I'd forget I don't turn off the

00:53:07   sound I don't mind them but keyboard

00:53:09   clicking exactly that's a rookie

00:53:12   oh man the keyboard clicking oh I love

00:53:14   the keyboard clicking you don't use

00:53:16   keyboard clicking and iOS you really

00:53:19   don't you you're screwing with me now i

00:53:21   do use it and i have one time and i

00:53:23   would type 40 times faster if i had the

00:53:25   clicking but it just feels so douchey to

00:53:27   me to have that on me i really need it I

00:53:30   need the feedback

00:53:31   huh mine's been getting bad you know

00:53:34   it's adi have you gotten this like I'm

00:53:35   ready to do a reset because I now get

00:53:37   auto corrections of things I've typed

00:53:38   incorrectly before i'll try to type

00:53:42   anything and go like four loop you know

00:53:45   that that's another one of those things

00:53:46   that I can't believe they haven't gotten

00:53:48   the iOS yet is that you please help me

00:53:50   back because I i seriously listen to us

00:53:52   to hear this

00:53:52   good what is that no I just did that the

00:53:56   beans in my bonnet

00:53:57   I'm so angry about so many things apple

00:54:00   stupid right now I thought it was actual

00:54:01   letters from actual actual actual

00:54:03   readers actually mom and I'll here now

00:54:06   why can't you go in there and in

00:54:08   settings

00:54:09   why can't you go settings I don't know

00:54:11   keyboard and then have a list of the

00:54:14   auto corrections and you could add you

00:54:17   know and and and fix the ones that get

00:54:19   in it still seems like you can totally

00:54:20   tell you why not you can groove a bad

00:54:23   autocorrect right you let an autocorrect

00:54:26   go once or twice and then all of a

00:54:27   sudden it's in there and there's nothing

00:54:29   you can do about it

00:54:30   well I did you get this and I don't know

00:54:32   where this is coming from

00:54:33   hi this is this either at first I

00:54:35   thought it was laggy pneus or me being

00:54:38   hitting the wrong target

00:54:39   have you gotten the thing where it goes

00:54:42   so I do this thing sometimes I want to

00:54:43   speak in a jokey vernacular and so I'll

00:54:45   go hang in ' right and so i type Hannah

00:54:49   posture he goes out you mean hanging '

00:54:52   I'm like no I absolutely do not mean

00:54:54   hanging

00:54:55   ' and so I hit the thing nothing happens

00:54:59   don't you been hanging up on and hit it

00:55:01   again three times you get three shots

00:55:03   right i hit three times i hit on the

00:55:05   exit not on the Exile hit every every

00:55:07   possible target on the goddamn phone and

00:55:09   then it says I've changed this to hangar

00:55:11   apart if you ever get this without you

00:55:13   can't what is it trying is it is it

00:55:16   trying to grow with me

00:55:17   what why what why I wanted to let me be

00:55:19   wrong i don't know what you do but you

00:55:22   know the Phenom it didn't used to do

00:55:23   this for me and now it does and i think

00:55:25   it's become sentient and I don't like it

00:55:27   it has at least given up on correcting

00:55:32   swears that did the trick

00:55:34   duck you know what when you address

00:55:36   contact caii did I I light but I was it

00:55:39   works for me now that I've taken them

00:55:41   out of my address book

00:55:42   so here's a fun one for it used to work

00:55:43   for me until my contacts up speaking

00:55:46   perfect i lost i recently lost nothing

00:55:49   that bad on me for trying to do more

00:55:50   than one thing i don't know why i think

00:55:52   i can sync with more than one thing I

00:55:54   got all my name's all the Twitter

00:55:56   addresses work fine but I've lost tons

00:55:58   of phone numbers and addresses for no

00:56:00   reason that I can understand they just

00:56:01   went away last week you guys went away

00:56:05   you got Delmon I get settlement you know

00:56:08   my favorite the ones i think

00:56:09   intelligence with my favorites a couple

00:56:10   years ago I had 14 copies of Jason Santa

00:56:12   Santa Santa Santa Santa Santa Santa

00:56:14   Santa Santa Maria every time it's think

00:56:18   that an extra Santa I blame him you

00:56:21   don't need three names that seems

00:56:23   excessive to me what the hell did that

00:56:24   happen

00:56:25   we should talk about this on another

00:56:27   showcase this is probably too long

00:56:29   already but this is this is this is the

00:56:30   thing what you're describing

00:56:32   yes I wish I had that I wish I could do

00:56:34   that on the desktop i wish there was a

00:56:35   desktop dingus where I could go in and

00:56:38   say here's all the audit you know what I

00:56:39   mean like I know that sounds ridiculous

00:56:40   right why why is it that i have to

00:56:43   re-enter those hobbled iOS abbreviations

00:56:46   on every device i sit there with two

00:56:48   devices open to try to make a matchup

00:56:50   that should be synced through iCloud

00:56:52   that seems like a no-brainer but then

00:56:54   what now going to go into the going to

00:56:56   the experience on iOS of having to do

00:56:58   that you get this long ugly list that's

00:57:00   totally unwieldy and that's the problem

00:57:02   notifications like tell me how a normal

00:57:04   person who's not a nerd with time

00:57:07   to kill gets all the notifications the

00:57:09   way they want because here's what

00:57:11   happens you got a new app

00:57:13   hey this thing would like to give you

00:57:14   notifications well of course I want

00:57:15   notifications I'm not an idiot

00:57:17   you hit it and suddenly you're finding

00:57:19   out that somebody just leveled up on

00:57:20   food book or whatever him now you know

00:57:23   Jonas has an old 3gs center right now

00:57:26   they play the games on and he's always

00:57:28   get notifications from the stupid games

00:57:30   he plays like you know you installed it

00:57:32   gets a new game a ninety-nine cents and

00:57:34   he okay's the the get notifications and

00:57:37   it's stupid stuff like you know you

00:57:39   haven't haven't played we miss you

00:57:41   you're eligible for a smart bomb

00:57:43   yeah there's no bullets available in the

00:57:45   cowboy game and I mean and it's like I I

00:57:49   go I see that I go in there and I just

00:57:51   turned it all I turn it all off its like

00:57:53   no you don't you don't get to send text

00:57:55   messages to make it telling mrs. no I

00:57:58   don't want to rehash my extensive lining

00:58:01   i did imac power users a couple weeks

00:58:02   ago because i went into a pretty long

00:58:03   thing on this but what I mean this is

00:58:06   one part that I wish that I cloud I

00:58:09   think could do a better job with ok

00:58:12   the basic value proposition of the Apple

00:58:14   products the the way that it's evolving

00:58:16   in a way that I like and I'm happy with

00:58:17   is that they are trying on some level to

00:58:20   simplify the experience right i mean you

00:58:22   know you go in you by your new iOS

00:58:25   device you don't need to own a mac like

00:58:26   that's really cool in theory right then

00:58:28   how do you delete large files

00:58:30   how do you know how much space is left

00:58:31   on your phone we all obviously you drill

00:58:33   down into settings and going to usage

00:58:34   and then go in there and you delete all

00:58:36   of your music or you keep all of your

00:58:37   music like that's a little ham-fisted

00:58:39   for me but the problem is so striking

00:58:42   that instance like it screw the idea of

00:58:44   just owning a phone is great but like

00:58:46   well let's take the total corner case

00:58:47   let's say you're super rich guy you're

00:58:49   super duper rich guy who just retired

00:58:50   and you say you know what I'm going to

00:58:52   buy one of these iphones when I was

00:58:53   tricked out what I can

00:58:55   I'm gonna buy all my favorite the

00:58:56   loneliest monk records i'm going to get

00:58:57   a 720p of my granddaughter taking our

00:59:00   first steps

00:59:01   pretty soon your phone's full you walk

00:59:02   into the foundation meeting you like a

00:59:04   dick like how do you how do you deal

00:59:06   with all that stuff on there without

00:59:08   either going through a million fiddly

00:59:10   swipes or buy a mac i actually think

00:59:15   android does a better job of this where

00:59:18   the

00:59:19   first the first run you mean II well

00:59:21   that you the basic idea is you buy a new

00:59:24   iOS device that's just a an iphone and

00:59:27   you give it your iCloud ID and it knows

00:59:30   some stuff about you and it will set up

00:59:32   some stuff and you can do stuff like go

00:59:36   to the App Store and seed apps you

00:59:38   already own that aren't installed on the

00:59:39   phone and it also offer to let you back

00:59:42   up from an iCloud backup but everything

00:59:46   doesn't come with that it seems to me it

00:59:47   doesn't seem like you get everything if

00:59:50   you don't really do a restart now my

00:59:53   I've done I've had two unsuccessful

00:59:55   restores and one successful restore the

00:59:57   first time it was successful which

00:59:59   seemed like Disney Matt

00:59:59   seemed like Disney Matt

01:00:00   dick but i did a restore of my eye when

01:00:02   I got an ipad 20 you know and the thing

01:00:05   is John this is the Albatross we must

01:00:07   constantly mention this to people I'm

01:00:09   click to encrypt in itunes because i

01:00:11   love your passwords why is that not

01:00:13   default i have no you will not get your

01:00:16   settings and let you have that turned on

01:00:17   its a marker trick but we've been clear

01:00:19   about what this is very flattered when

01:00:21   interacting you're going you know I got

01:00:23   it when you back up and iOS device to

01:00:25   your Mac or presumably a windows machine

01:00:27   not to iCloud but to your Mac and I say

01:00:30   do both i do the iCloud backups and the

01:00:32   mac backups because I figured you know

01:00:33   can't lose with you my daughter

01:00:35   suspenders yeah but when you back up to

01:00:36   your Mac if you encrypt the backup even

01:00:39   if you are not worried about somebody

01:00:41   snooping into your backup even if you

01:00:43   are completely certain that even if

01:00:45   you're using the the file vault and you

01:00:47   feel like you're covered because your

01:00:48   whole disk is encrypted so why encrypt

01:00:50   your backup you gotta click that button

01:00:52   and encrypt your back up with a password

01:00:54   because then then and only then your

01:00:57   backup book includes your passwords and

01:01:01   then when you restore from that backup

01:01:03   you don't have to enter every single

01:01:04   email accounts password again which

01:01:07   could have been so much easier to

01:01:08   explain if there was a check box that

01:01:11   said remember my settings right and then

01:01:13   ? for help i can tell you I down the

01:01:16   exact same as you where I was went years

01:01:18   on iOS without doing that because I was

01:01:20   not concerned about the the security I

01:01:23   anybody who had access to my Mac what's

01:01:25   the long way to phrase it i mean right

01:01:27   it's that it's really it's really

01:01:29   bananas

01:01:29   I mean because that's what you're the

01:01:31   value of that that seems like a nerd bit

01:01:34   to flip right right but it's absolutely

01:01:37   you know when it when I want to save my

01:01:39   butt was a friend of friend who's not me

01:01:43   was on iOS 5 beta lion beta and atv data

01:01:50   atv tube8 all at the same time no sorry

01:01:52   originally anyway the point being i was

01:01:54   constantly restoring constantly

01:01:56   constantly constantly restoring I mean

01:01:58   if you're probably on the 5 beta do you

01:02:00   remember when was like oh my god

01:02:01   suddenly Wi-Fi sinking worked

01:02:03   yeah and you're like this is the most of

01:02:05   it and then suddenly one day not only

01:02:07   did it stop working but it wouldn't take

01:02:10   a tethered did you get this one where it

01:02:13   would

01:02:13   not only stop backing upper 60s me stop

01:02:15   not only stopped syncing with itunes but

01:02:17   you couldn't reach either it thought it

01:02:20   was it like a dead other somebody else's

01:02:22   phone so you have to do a full restore

01:02:24   so God God save you you better have a

01:02:27   full backup of that with your passwords

01:02:29   or you're gonna be you're gonna lose

01:02:30   half a day every time that happens so I

01:02:34   mean that that's an example though of

01:02:35   that that's up there will be a piece of

01:02:37   you I what I'm trying to say though is

01:02:38   like in the past in itunes as flawed and

01:02:40   goofy as itunes is at least I always had

01:02:42   a sense that there's a folder somewhere

01:02:44   we're all my mp3 is live and let me be

01:02:46   clear i love itunes match I have become

01:02:48   a big fan of itunes match in a lot of

01:02:50   ways but we're losing our sense of place

01:02:52   with Apple devices and that's what's

01:02:54   that's one thing starting to frustrate

01:02:55   me

01:02:55   we're getting a collision of the

01:02:58   embarrassment of riches of all the great

01:03:00   stuff we can have my gosh you're kidding

01:03:01   me i throw in some hundred 28k version

01:03:04   of the song and now it's just everywhere

01:03:06   like how is that allowed to happen

01:03:08   that's amazing but if I pull down if

01:03:11   that rich guy goes or gal goes and pulls

01:03:12   down everything loneliest monk record

01:03:14   256k get whatever those are big files

01:03:19   right they bottle that music where's

01:03:21   that music live well obviously just go

01:03:23   to iTunes so you can delete and

01:03:24   redownload it is that's super obvious to

01:03:26   most people do you think i don't know i

01:03:29   don't know that it is and i still think

01:03:31   i think that the roots of iOS being

01:03:34   without any iCloud we're just being

01:03:36   something that syncs to your Mac that it

01:03:39   still is not shaking those roots

01:03:41   I don't think it's as clear that that

01:03:43   the stuff economically lives in our did

01:03:47   you know to put it is certainly not

01:03:48   because in the cloud

01:03:50   they're certainly not one correct way to

01:03:51   do it anymore either in theory or

01:03:53   practice um I mean the iCloud sinking is

01:03:56   great arm again now I mean there's all

01:03:59   kinds of things world that the trust is

01:04:01   not there for me I still don't

01:04:02   understand why I can't enter this one

01:04:05   email address in 3c I messages in this

01:04:07   one place it's in use under the device

01:04:09   ok what devices that we're like I don't

01:04:14   know how to fix that and I went to

01:04:15   college and stuff like I think there's a

01:04:17   lot of stuff that's pretty confusing but

01:04:18   this the collision that I think is

01:04:20   interesting from a John Gruber

01:04:21   standpoint is that it is so great that

01:04:23   we've got all this stuff the fact that I

01:04:25   cloud works at all

01:04:26   is amazing and the fact you know I like

01:04:28   Dropbox in some ways which is better

01:04:31   it is amazing that that works but now

01:04:34   you've got this collision of oh my gosh

01:04:35   abbreviations on iOS are great but if

01:04:38   they don't sink I've got to go reenter

01:04:40   those I mean yeah why don't they sink

01:04:42   where they supposedly is it a bug or I

01:04:44   don't get that I don't know it'sit's for

01:04:47   now though it certainly doesn't make me

01:04:48   worry about the future of text expander

01:04:50   that's for sure

01:04:51   at least in my head like but but here's

01:04:53   the problem with that okay so that's

01:04:54   frustrating i understand apples great

01:04:56   about rolling stuff up when wrong stuff

01:04:58   out when it's ready so I get that you

01:05:00   don't overwhelm people with all these

01:05:01   different things but first of all it

01:05:04   feels real hockey

01:05:05   I'm glad it's there but it's tacky i

01:05:07   would have to manually keep this updated

01:05:08   all over the place but look at every app

01:05:10   I use instant cast nebulous notes

01:05:14   nebulous macros I can export and import

01:05:16   through dropbox to anywhere I can spit

01:05:20   out my instant cast as opml and move it

01:05:22   anywhere right and and this is this is

01:05:24   where I get my tinfoil hat on is the

01:05:26   that collision of the power of what this

01:05:30   can do the large you know the ability to

01:05:32   have these high quality files you know

01:05:34   the 720p videos add up

01:05:37   you know what I mean all that stuff then

01:05:39   colliding with ok now how do I handle

01:05:41   having all these notifications

01:05:44   that's a lot of bits to flip on a screen

01:05:46   that sighs you know I mean like it's an

01:05:49   interesting inflection point for Apple

01:05:50   because as they try and make this more

01:05:51   simple as they do add the sandboxing as

01:05:54   they try and bring in this fatter middle

01:05:55   part of the adoption curve i think these

01:05:57   collisions are going to get interesting

01:05:58   to watch and I'm sure they will in the

01:06:00   meantime fix them even as new collisions

01:06:02   come up but did you see that as a

01:06:04   tension at all dude i'm afraid i don't

01:06:07   know if i'm posting this question right

01:06:09   now I'm not sure you are there you've

01:06:11   got a lot of great stuff out there

01:06:12   they're trying to make it simple but

01:06:14   they're trying to potentially introduce

01:06:16   simplicity into something that is native

01:06:18   complexity

01:06:19   yeah very where my music natives and how

01:06:21   I not get this notification or even

01:06:23   where your preferences live like in the

01:06:26   old days it used to be real simple

01:06:27   reason your preferences folder in Iowa

01:06:30   you would well on the mac not on is

01:06:32   because you never had access to the

01:06:33   folders we're not even an iOS though I

01:06:35   mean why increasingly I'm seeing

01:06:38   preferences inside of that

01:06:39   but there's still tons of times right by

01:06:41   a nap and I buy a lot of apps and i'll

01:06:43   open up and I'll go hm i can change some

01:06:46   things in here but it feels like i can

01:06:47   probably change more so what do i do i

01:06:49   click the home button i go to settings

01:06:51   and then I go discover that there's an

01:06:54   area in there where I can change more

01:06:55   and sometimes that is one more for the

01:06:58   call it a radio button but one flip

01:07:00   checkbox that will be reset cash it

01:07:03   might just be that it might be huh

01:07:05   or it might be something like good

01:07:06   reader where you're like oh my god

01:07:08   there's like 16 pages of preferences in

01:07:09   here right and I don't feel like there's

01:07:11   any kind of standard for is their

01:07:12   standard for wear that stuff should go

01:07:14   and no not really

01:07:17   they used to say that used to be the big

01:07:20   that the the guideline was that all

01:07:22   settings go into settings app and that

01:07:24   app shouldn't have settings and that's

01:07:26   why did they might even still be in the

01:07:28   head but nobody nobody crosses dead

01:07:31   because there's too many settings that

01:07:33   are to you don't want to you know like

01:07:35   in in tweet bot on a per account basis

01:07:41   you can set up a read it later service

01:07:43   like Instapaper or pin board or image

01:07:47   posting or yes shortening or meeting you

01:07:51   can write I think you can mute hashtags

01:07:54   and people on one account and not on

01:07:56   another right and it would be

01:07:57   infuriating if you had to go to the

01:07:59   Settings up to do that you know it

01:08:02   belongs in the app but my point though

01:08:04   is more like in the old days if you want

01:08:07   if you had two machines and to max and

01:08:10   you want the exact same bbedit set up in

01:08:13   both you knew what to do go to the one

01:08:15   that set up the way you want to take the

01:08:18   Preferences copying over to the other

01:08:19   one put them in the Preferences folder

01:08:21   and then boom you've got them now they

01:08:23   wouldn't it wouldn't stay in sync but

01:08:24   you could at least you knew that it

01:08:26   wouldn't stay in sync right you know and

01:08:28   you could start with a known good

01:08:30   preferences file put it over on the

01:08:32   other one and then you'd have those

01:08:33   preferences you can't there's no way to

01:08:35   do that in iOS like if you've got this

01:08:37   you know you've got all these cool

01:08:40   abbreviation set up on one device and

01:08:42   now you've got this other device and you

01:08:43   want those abbreviations will have to

01:08:45   you you've got to sit there and type

01:08:46   them all out by hand right

01:08:49   yeah I hmm i don't know there's there's

01:08:54   I guess the the tinfoil hat part for me

01:08:57   is that the house a lack of vision

01:09:01   because there's certainly a lot of

01:09:03   vision happening but there's certainly a

01:09:05   lot of ambition going on with all of

01:09:07   these things but it's a weird universe

01:09:09   where is a strange universe to me wear

01:09:13   something like the hacky abbreviation

01:09:16   stuff sets sits alongside the ability to

01:09:18   restore and ipad um and where I don't

01:09:25   know I just feel like I don't have this

01:09:26   total level of confidence like you just

01:09:27   said I mean you sort of course back in

01:09:29   the day you could just take extensions

01:09:31   out and restart and that would work i'm

01:09:33   happy to give that up it's tough runs

01:09:35   you know what i mean i don't know i

01:09:37   don't know what that is I don't know

01:09:38   that's protected memory journaling

01:09:39   whatever like I'm glad I don't have to

01:09:40   deal with that stuff anymore personally

01:09:42   but at the same time the implementation

01:09:46   of this simplicity combined with things

01:09:50   like sandbox and gives me the fear in

01:09:52   terms of how I actually work and how

01:09:53   much I don't mean to whine I know people

01:09:55   will say I'm whining about Apple but you

01:09:57   know what I'm saying like it'sit's still

01:09:59   like when i open up txt edit and it

01:10:01   gives me a dialog box

01:10:03   I'm sorry one of her friend is not me

01:10:06   opens text edit on mountain lion and get

01:10:08   to the dialog box for the cloud it's

01:10:10   like what like I don't you know what I

01:10:14   mean that that feels really perplexing

01:10:15   to me kinda awesome though in a

01:10:19   different way if you're not if you just

01:10:20   come at it as like with like a fresh set

01:10:22   of eyes I could see that particularly

01:10:25   being true for you as for example of ppl

01:10:28   a user right because you're like you

01:10:31   ever sit there and go oh what should I

01:10:32   open this text at txt file in you I'm

01:10:36   getting very rarely it's going to be

01:10:39   beheaded or the terminal making right

01:10:41   you're not right i mean if you open a

01:10:43   text file is going to be at it right and

01:10:46   so having all of your cloudy stuff i

01:10:48   clouded stuff in that one pp edit barrel

01:10:53   is okay with you yeah but that's you

01:10:56   know that's the for somebody like me and

01:10:59   you drop boxes the better solution right

01:11:01   everything i doing BB

01:11:02   that you saved in a dropbox folder not

01:11:04   you know I'm not really looking i don't

01:11:06   really care of

01:11:07   bbedit ever supports iCloud I don't

01:11:09   think i would I doubt I would run an app

01:11:11   store version of BB edit and the only

01:11:13   wonder if we'll ever have to don't you

01:11:16   wonder I mean I that I can't see I don't

01:11:20   see where that that's not coming i'm not

01:11:23   trying to be slippery slope guy but I

01:11:25   don't caii getting hard for me to

01:11:27   imagine a future where that's not the

01:11:29   way you're at least supposed to do it

01:11:31   yeah it's that I think I wrote about

01:11:33   this recently where there's some weird

01:11:35   carrot-and-stick action and I don't

01:11:38   think apple is ever ever going to i

01:11:40   really don't i think it's so long as

01:11:42   there is a mac that there will not there

01:11:45   will not be a everything has to come

01:11:47   through the app store rule the

01:11:49   gatekeeper thing is a lot of work and

01:11:51   they're trying to really trying to do

01:11:52   the right thing which is allow

01:11:53   third-party apps that didn't go through

01:11:56   the app store to have the security and

01:11:58   sort of peace of mind that

01:12:01   hey it's not malware or and it's not

01:12:03   going to do anything it's not supposed

01:12:04   to do and if it is Apple can revoke this

01:12:07   sort of certification and and keep it

01:12:10   from running elsewhere again a great

01:12:13   great stuff and I really don't think

01:12:14   that that's a half step towards making

01:12:16   everybody do the app store i really

01:12:17   think it's a half step towards hey let's

01:12:19   bring some of these advantage of the of

01:12:21   the app store to other apps the way that

01:12:25   they're doing it other with is to add

01:12:26   these new features that you can only get

01:12:28   through the app store and if the

01:12:30   features are compelling enough

01:12:31   everybody's going to opt-in you know you

01:12:36   said as much in your article if you want

01:12:37   i think is yes that's feel like slider

01:12:40   read but if you want to have icloud

01:12:42   stuff you have to sell your it has to go

01:12:46   through the app stores ever act right

01:12:47   dense and a no and I can see there's

01:12:50   good reasons for that beyond just being

01:12:52   trying to get thirty percent of the

01:12:56   revenue from the apps being sold it's

01:12:59   not just about the money and I really

01:13:00   you know financially the money that

01:13:02   Apple get from the app store it's

01:13:03   nothing to sneeze at but it right and

01:13:04   it's a red herring

01:13:05   I think the security thing is it is a

01:13:07   great idea that's also right here it's

01:13:08   about control they value they value the

01:13:11   control far more

01:13:13   they value the money i mean that's you

01:13:15   know they could you know the money from

01:13:18   the app store probably doesn't even know

01:13:20   if it covers the charitable

01:13:21   contributions they that they do for the

01:13:23   employees with the matching funds I mean

01:13:26   it's just not that much money it's the

01:13:27   control they want control more than they

01:13:29   want more money they make all the money

01:13:31   all the money comes from selling that

01:13:32   the hardware whereby all I mean alright

01:13:36   effectively oh yeah you know put a

01:13:38   little asterisk there it's the control

01:13:41   and it's the fact that hey we've got

01:13:43   these dismiss these data centers and

01:13:47   this is where all the iCloud stuff is

01:13:48   sold and we control everything that's

01:13:52   stored here we know everything now that

01:13:54   you know that you can set you can email

01:13:56   yourself a copy of anything so it's like

01:13:58   you know in the email is served on their

01:14:00   iCloud servers but they know that you

01:14:03   know that's going through imap it's

01:14:05   under their control

01:14:06   they're not going to so I don't mean it

01:14:08   in that they control the content

01:14:10   I just mean that they control the means

01:14:12   right

01:14:13   so if every single app that wants to do

01:14:16   read right to to iCloud has two they

01:14:19   want to have control over that means it

01:14:20   has to go through the app store so I

01:14:23   understand that and for some apps its

01:14:24   iCloud sinking is so compelling that

01:14:27   they're going to go app store only I

01:14:28   mean and speaking of barebone software

01:14:30   that's what they're going to do with no

01:14:31   Jimbo maybe have to write well I mean

01:14:36   that the mobileme things right one of

01:14:39   the most notorious examples i'm not know

01:14:41   that they're notorious but that the one

01:14:42   of the like the heartbreaking examples

01:14:44   of they had this app that was working

01:14:45   great for nerds right and now it's not

01:14:48   as simple as just changing some few

01:14:51   lines of code it's really it's a

01:14:52   different API right right i mean and yea

01:14:55   heartbreaking in the sense of an awful

01:14:57   lot of of very smart guys and long-term

01:15:01   Apple developers I mean honestly

01:15:04   personal friends of mine also but you

01:15:07   know just the good guys

01:15:08   I mean I don't think there's anybody

01:15:09   whether you use their apps or not nobody

01:15:10   the little things about barebone

01:15:12   software and things that there anything

01:15:13   other than good guys at the buzzer

01:15:15   burnin cycles on trying to keep well no

01:15:17   but they've lost

01:15:18   no but it's the tragedy that mean again

01:15:20   it's tragedy in terms of lost developer

01:15:23   time not

01:15:23   tragedy in terms of you know darker or

01:15:25   something like that I you know I mean

01:15:28   we're you know we're nerds but you know

01:15:30   so keep it in perspective but no but the

01:15:32   way you Jimbo we used to work with

01:15:34   mobileme was fantastic it was like that

01:15:36   it was the existence proof that mobileme

01:15:39   actually wasn't a total garbage you know

01:15:42   its reputation notwithstanding and in

01:15:43   fact they actually the sinking that your

01:15:45   jumbo did the mobileme like it it took

01:15:47   out a ton of bugs in mobile knees sink

01:15:50   service and it worked it absolutely

01:15:53   worked i can vouch for that for you know

01:15:55   a long time i wave i did to max both

01:15:57   running Jimbo and sink through mobileme

01:16:00   and I don't think I ever lost a

01:16:03   keystroke you know and i would type it

01:16:06   on one on my air and shut the lid and

01:16:09   turn and just 10 seconds later i'm

01:16:11   looking at my other machine and there's

01:16:12   that bookmark that I just yo Jimbo down

01:16:14   the machine right next to it it was

01:16:17   great and now it's you know it's gone

01:16:19   because mobile he's gone and if you want

01:16:20   to sink two no Jimbo libraries which is

01:16:22   super super useful

01:16:24   I you know you can do it now through

01:16:27   dropbox but it's kind of a hack and you

01:16:29   have to quit one copy of your jumbo

01:16:31   before you launch the other and stuff

01:16:33   like that and they're going to switch to

01:16:34   iCloud sinking but because they're

01:16:35   switching to iCloud syncing now it has

01:16:37   to be an app store on the app and I

01:16:40   think you're going to hear that story

01:16:40   more and more

01:16:41   well yeah you're going to see people

01:16:43   like Manton or you know smile that's

01:16:45   just going to have to take it someplace

01:16:47   else you know which is which is

01:16:49   certainly a bomber as well right but it

01:16:51   feels like and I'm not saying this is by

01:16:53   design but there's always a little bit

01:16:55   of sugar in the medicine there's there's

01:16:57   you know always I mean I cloud

01:16:59   yeah you're sticking your iCloud

01:17:00   documents to various things it is it's

01:17:02   it's great i mean it's a really neat

01:17:04   thing I cloud preferences any of that

01:17:06   stuff it's it's a really neat idea on

01:17:08   some level it does really feel like

01:17:10   they're solving a problem that's already

01:17:11   been solved better by Dropbox which for

01:17:15   me has just worked so well that it's

01:17:17   it's just kinda scary how well it works

01:17:19   but you know just for an edge case like

01:17:22   me what I give up in the potentially

01:17:25   losing the ability to have this text

01:17:27   about being usable by different apps you

01:17:30   know that's that's a sucky trade-off for

01:17:32   me but i don't know i mean is this is

01:17:35   this is which

01:17:36   what about this before everybody's

01:17:37   talking about this but you gotta follow

01:17:39   Appa's lead where you're going to get

01:17:40   totally left behind right you know

01:17:42   thinking you know yet you know what if

01:17:44   you wanna if you want your scroll to go

01:17:46   this way enjoy that for maybe a year

01:17:49   because that that little legacy button I

01:17:52   like it the old way is probably going to

01:17:54   go away at some point you know I mean

01:17:56   but it's it's the part for me as a no as

01:18:00   having as a person whose use this stuff

01:18:01   for 25 years or however long it's been

01:18:03   alright so like that wow that's freaky

01:18:06   yeah 25 years is that I've always found

01:18:09   the most interesting stuff on the edges

01:18:11   and the things that compensate for

01:18:13   something Apple wasn't doing often ended

01:18:16   up being the thing that I really love

01:18:17   even if it was something Apple was doing

01:18:19   i frequently found a way to do it better

01:18:21   and that was okay you know what I mean I

01:18:24   you know obviously there's things like

01:18:25   transmit like I don't think they had an

01:18:27   ftp app apart from the terminal so I

01:18:30   mean stuff i transmit no problem but you

01:18:32   know I haven't even say deficits i mean

01:18:36   i would say that Apple has for the last

01:18:37   however many 5-10 years has been getting

01:18:40   better and better and better at making

01:18:41   something extremely stable that you

01:18:44   could add onto to enhance your

01:18:46   experience with what you're doing on

01:18:48   your mac in particular and I i developed

01:18:52   certain habits around that and I certain

01:18:54   expectations about how things work and

01:18:57   you know a friend who's not me that has

01:19:00   been really wondering like wonder why

01:19:02   open with isn't available in the finder

01:19:06   sometimes and seeing that state because

01:19:09   i use OD is open with a lot probably not

01:19:12   always at that point I is open with all

01:19:13   the time so we're talking about

01:19:15   ctrl-click or right or right click on a

01:19:18   document and your present with a menu of

01:19:20   every app that your Mac knows of that

01:19:24   could open this document so if that's a

01:19:26   text file or Die movie they'll be a lot

01:19:29   well why the heck would you want this

01:19:30   wouldn't you just want to click on HTML

01:19:32   and have it open in safari no I might

01:19:35   want to go edit that bbedit which is my

01:19:37   go-to for HTML editing i might want to

01:19:39   open that text me if I want to turn that

01:19:41   into mark down and do the writing system

01:19:42   where I do the writing i might want to

01:19:44   open in chrome if it's a movie so we're

01:19:47   done with this call I will have a dot

01:19:48   mov file

01:19:49   of two tracks and the only app that lets

01:19:52   me edit that well is quicktime player 7

01:19:56   right if I open in quicktime it's not I

01:20:00   mean it's not even a comparison ID quick

01:20:03   the t keep seven around i think i do on

01:20:06   my machine but i haven't had a reason

01:20:07   for it to use it pearl but on the face

01:20:09   of it

01:20:10   clicking got a movie that makes a lot of

01:20:12   sense that that would open in whatever i

01:20:13   guess that the itunes but like what if

01:20:16   what if you like VLC well that's a much

01:20:19   better experience in a lot of ways for

01:20:20   me but that media files are the big news

01:20:23   from open with because you know what are

01:20:25   you gonna do with an image its could be

01:20:26   widely widely vary i just want to look

01:20:28   at it

01:20:28   well I had just opened preview or

01:20:30   whatever but I want to be printed it

01:20:31   previously good guess but if you exactly

01:20:33   if you want to open with a I want to

01:20:34   edit it i want to open an acorn but I

01:20:36   actually I don't want to use a corn

01:20:38   because i want better I I specifically

01:20:40   wanted to put text in it and I like the

01:20:42   way the Pixelmator does text better so I

01:20:45   want to open in Pixelmator and write

01:20:47   something like that or I just want to

01:20:49   open a browser because i actually want

01:20:51   to see how this ping it if the colors

01:20:53   are actually going to look good in the

01:20:54   browser as I think they are because it's

01:20:56   you know it's got a color profile right

01:20:59   yeah I was open with all the time and is

01:21:01   that might just be me but I feel like

01:21:05   it's just you i I'm looking in another

01:21:07   guy a guy over here away it's not you

01:21:09   did you get it was nothing

01:21:10   yeah i got an open with I think you

01:21:13   might have to add that for your app I'm

01:21:18   not sure you know what I have no idea

01:21:20   i'm talking to my buddy lost my friend

01:21:21   is not me that check it out but I don't

01:21:23   know anyway yeah it's a it's it's

01:21:25   there's so much exciting and good stuff

01:21:27   happening and and it's I think it's

01:21:29   sometimes frustrating for people inside

01:21:31   and outside the apple bubble because

01:21:34   there's so much that Apple does really

01:21:36   well a lot of the time and there's

01:21:38   almost always something that they could

01:21:40   be doing better that ethic as you have

01:21:43   documented over time that they are

01:21:44   probably working on and and that's

01:21:46   served me so well in the last few years

01:21:49   it's only recently that I've got a

01:21:50   little bit of the fear and and really it

01:21:53   is because it's not because I'm being

01:21:54   perfidious it's because I really this is

01:21:57   what i use i don't know what else I

01:21:58   would use besides this stuff but at this

01:22:01   point for me i can afford to be a

01:22:02   jackass

01:22:03   it makes fun of people who are

01:22:04   physically with their workflow because i

01:22:05   have a workflow is bulletproof and it's

01:22:07   what is a workflow that I would will

01:22:09   have to amend for sure if I want to keep

01:22:12   using all this stuff in the way that I I

01:22:13   suspect it's going

01:22:15   yeah i went to shows running a little

01:22:16   long but I was sorry I know that's right

01:22:19   well I wouldn't do that would happen

01:22:20   with you but I i have a little bit more

01:22:22   i want to talk to you about but and then

01:22:23   I want to stop and do a second sponsor

01:22:25   break

01:22:26   ok I wanna tell you about tap stream for

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01:22:43   app developers and they made this for

01:22:45   themselves and sort of scratch their own

01:22:46   niche it's a little little bit of

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01:22:51   put in a mac app ios app android app and

01:22:55   a little bit of that a little bit of

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01:23:00   can track all sorts of stuff that people

01:23:02   are doing in your app and see where

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01:23:09   from where it's going nowhere it you

01:23:10   know you have a thousand downloads of

01:23:12   your Apple where did people here at it

01:23:13   right did you hear about it I'm daring

01:23:15   fireball did they get it from the

01:23:18   unofficial apple weblog did they get it

01:23:20   from kungfu grip this will tell you it's

01:23:26   a great service super easy to implement

01:23:27   they give you the code just a little bit

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01:23:50   a lot of developers they may not even

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01:23:57   all the information you want and the

01:23:59   best thing about this is my favorite

01:24:00   part i mentioned this last week on this

01:24:02   site but it makes me so happy

01:24:05   is that the whole reason they're

01:24:08   sponsoring this show and the reason they

01:24:11   sponsor my website to promote tap stream

01:24:13   was that they used to

01:24:15   stream while it was in development to

01:24:17   measure the effectiveness of a daring

01:24:18   fireball sponsorship

01:24:20   however for their app called tap folio

01:24:24   trending that was then that's the name

01:24:26   of their stock app is actually very

01:24:27   beautiful app to you could take a look

01:24:29   at that too on the App Store tap folio

01:24:31   tap stream while i was in development

01:24:32   saw that it was an effective way of

01:24:35   getting a nap known and then they came

01:24:37   back to sponsor again to tell you about

01:24:39   taps team if you're an app developer go

01:24:42   look at it go to tap stream dot-com and

01:24:45   it's great stuff and also hungry they're

01:24:50   so hungry for that kind of information

01:24:51   yeah because you get nothing from Apple

01:24:54   you just get nothing and you just get a

01:24:55   thing from apple that is nothing you

01:24:57   like it right

01:24:58   did it just gives you a number you just

01:25:00   that's just it you go like you go to the

01:25:02   Apple what is Apple tell you like if

01:25:03   your app is did it's just they just give

01:25:05   you number 6 500 but I just and that's

01:25:09   it and then the next week it just says

01:25:11   that you know 375 that's it that's all

01:25:14   you know and then the check comes at the

01:25:15   end of the month you don't know anything

01:25:17   got to have something like tabstrip if

01:25:18   you want to figure out how to help

01:25:19   people are actually finding out where

01:25:21   your apps coming from coming can you

01:25:22   imagine running a website if you didn't

01:25:23   have something that told you right

01:25:24   refers it would be entirely not really

01:25:27   really frustrating to again our friend

01:25:30   Marco is an example it comes to mind but

01:25:32   somebody who's you know wanting wanting

01:25:34   to decide how to keep I'm not going to

01:25:38   sit as a transitive verb if they want to

01:25:39   make sure their business keeps growing

01:25:42   they're going to need decide where to

01:25:43   level resources where to put things and

01:25:45   it's not simply a douche thing or you

01:25:47   know we go surfing thing its business

01:25:49   intelligence in the actual sense of the

01:25:51   word and again that you're having a hack

01:25:55   that in yourself but what a great

01:25:56   service to have and does it do stuff

01:25:58   like I mean so so how would it know that

01:26:00   it came from your site

01:26:02   I because it can't say didn't imagine I

01:26:06   you know I don't even know how it works

01:26:09   i guess because the link you do you get

01:26:10   with the Lincoln and the link comes in

01:26:12   with a little bit of like a referral

01:26:14   code type thing and

01:26:15   but it works

01:26:19   aun are you are you making your own dog

01:26:21   food eating your own dogs because it

01:26:22   sounds like this dog food involved here

01:26:23   this actually work the reason they're

01:26:25   advertising your understand you

01:26:26   correctly mr. Carson is that is that it

01:26:29   actually worked this is they're here

01:26:30   because it works right

01:26:32   that's pretty cool where people go to

01:26:34   learn more about this you go to tap

01:26:38   stream dot-com upstream com you need one

01:26:45   of the things like I've got where people

01:26:47   knowing the answer / yeah i don't know i

01:26:49   don't have that they kind of just fade

01:26:51   to grey and we're back

01:26:56   I think I that was good we got into some

01:26:59   good stuff and now facing brave

01:27:01   no not yet i have not really where I

01:27:03   haven't taken the boys see any of these

01:27:04   summer movies and now we're so far but

01:27:06   are we saw the Avengers but haven't seen

01:27:07   one since so we haven't seen brave we

01:27:10   wanted to see men in black I don't know

01:27:11   that's even in the theaters anymore so

01:27:13   forget about that got to see brave

01:27:14   haven't seen spider-man you have me back

01:27:17   for next week well here's the thing i

01:27:21   wanted to i just want to go through this

01:27:22   list of it's a little noisy it's a

01:27:24   little topical little you know and it

01:27:27   satisfies you know I feel like a we have

01:27:29   a chance to talk about the the tablet

01:27:31   rumors

01:27:32   well we can do that ok then wrapped up

01:27:34   and it kind of ties in with this which

01:27:35   is all this stuff that google announced

01:27:37   that the i/o conference and it made me

01:27:39   think about the fact that almost

01:27:41   everything google and apple are doing

01:27:43   there that they're like two gears where

01:27:48   you know what anybody would be called

01:27:50   the way that the the teeth go together

01:27:52   like in almost every regard one of them

01:27:56   is ahead and the others catching up or

01:27:59   the other ones ahead and the other one

01:28:01   is catching up right and the google i/o

01:28:02   listo he's just my notes i watch i watch

01:28:04   their their their keynote and almost

01:28:08   everything is what it's always one or

01:28:10   the other so that's one of the first

01:28:11   things i mentioned was project butter to

01:28:14   get everything up to 60 frames per

01:28:15   second and triple buffering and and all

01:28:17   this stuff

01:28:18   clearly they're trying to catch up to

01:28:20   iOS their iOS has always been very

01:28:21   smooth animation wise touch response

01:28:24   lies android has not say whatever you

01:28:26   want about android it hasn't now they're

01:28:28   they're even

01:28:28   Google's tacitly acknowledging that

01:28:30   they're catching up let's catch up for

01:28:31   google then they didn't offline voice

01:28:37   typing we know where you can dictate to

01:28:38   the phone and it even works without an

01:28:40   internet connection well that's

01:28:41   something where google has been ahead of

01:28:42   apple apple and Google's had voice

01:28:45   dictation in an android for a couple

01:28:47   years now and it works really good and I

01:28:51   do think I i think it's faster

01:28:54   do you use the dictation on the iphone i

01:28:57   use it all the time i guess a city

01:28:59   person i'm always out walking around and

01:29:01   if I you know it's to send a text to my

01:29:03   wife or whoever if I'm on the sidewalk

01:29:05   walking i'll just hold down the button

01:29:07   and dictated and it was so much better

01:29:09   than trying to thumb type while you're

01:29:10   actually walking but sometimes you do it

01:29:13   and you get the little purple blinking

01:29:14   lights and they're like blink blink

01:29:16   blink but it's totally drunk dad like

01:29:18   drunk dad drunk that comes to the plate

01:29:20   just enough just often enough to break

01:29:22   your heart yeah like I sit there and

01:29:24   like I tried to demo that for somebody

01:29:25   and I look like I'm out of my mind I'm

01:29:27   just talking into my phone nothing

01:29:28   happens and then sometimes I'll be

01:29:30   sitting there and in the i'll be outside

01:29:32   and it's windy and the train going by

01:29:34   and I'll say three sentences and it gets

01:29:36   it flawlessly in like a tenth of a

01:29:38   second like it's already done it before

01:29:40   you finish the set

01:29:41   it's completely crazy making you know

01:29:43   what I wish it was always exactly one

01:29:45   sent one second

01:29:46   put in july i don't care what you wanted

01:29:48   I want you don't mean I'm sorry but that

01:29:50   there yes it should work and it makes me

01:29:52   so crazy and then Syria forget them does

01:29:54   understand my name anymore but I think

01:29:56   Google's ahead on that I do and and they

01:29:58   and the fact that now they have offline

01:30:00   voice typing definitely puts them at it

01:30:01   so you can still you can get some of

01:30:03   this without even having a network

01:30:05   connection so if you know i mean i think

01:30:08   that clearly puts them ahead although it

01:30:12   is right now you at the offline stuff is

01:30:14   us english only but apple doesn't have

01:30:15   any offline voice dictation what else to

01:30:19   denounce expanding including including a

01:30:20   mountain lion actually enough

01:30:22   yes true expandable notifications with

01:30:25   likereply buttons and and stuff like

01:30:27   that i think that the whole notification

01:30:30   center thing in the phone I think

01:30:32   android is still I think you know I

01:30:33   think it's pretty safe to say it's ahead

01:30:35   of of the iphone in that room

01:30:36   art like so if you get an email and a

01:30:38   notification thing there's a little

01:30:39   button they have you can just reply to

01:30:41   it right there and make it go away

01:30:43   that seems super convenient to me who

01:30:46   here's my favorite this is my favorite

01:30:49   then I get and I might i'm not going in

01:30:51   the order that they announce stuff

01:30:52   because this i think came than that

01:30:54   their day to keynote but with it was a

01:30:56   chrome tabs sinking do you use chrome

01:30:59   and use safari yes and yes I mean no no

01:31:02   it's here yes i do this both but I use

01:31:04   chrome and I got the tab seeking and I

01:31:06   it's amazing it is amazing and i run

01:31:09   into this situation all day and then

01:31:11   maybe this is me because i'm john gruber

01:31:13   the guy links to lots of things but i

01:31:14   know that there's this thing that i read

01:31:16   that i want to link to but I don't

01:31:18   remember where the hell i read it did i

01:31:20   read it on my phone that i read it on my

01:31:23   mac i read it on the macbook air isn't

01:31:25   any ipad but i know i left it open

01:31:28   wherever it was because I wanted to link

01:31:30   it right from there and it's still

01:31:32   hadn't done it and where the hell is and

01:31:34   if you use chrome and you have on this

01:31:36   tab sinking you can just go there and

01:31:38   i'll show you all of your open tabs from

01:31:40   all your devices and instant updates

01:31:42   instantly and to me it's a brilliant

01:31:44   feature as a guy who leaves open tabs on

01:31:47   browsers all over the place and I'm

01:31:51   playing around with it with the chrome

01:31:52   for iOS and it wasn't you know it never

01:31:54   misses a beat

01:31:56   whereas apple on the other hand now

01:31:58   they're working on the same type of

01:32:00   feature but it's not coming to iOS 6 and

01:32:02   it's not coming to the mac until

01:32:03   mountain lion but in the meantime

01:32:05   they've got the one thing they do sync

01:32:07   with safari is the reading list which is

01:32:09   sort of like they're built into the

01:32:10   paper thing right

01:32:12   I use that i use it not not ice you know

01:32:15   don't use it as a replacement for

01:32:17   instapaper instapaper is where I send

01:32:19   stuff where I really do want to sit down

01:32:20   in a nice comfortable chair and read

01:32:22   stuff i will use the apple reading list

01:32:24   just to send a URL from one machine to

01:32:26   another right now i see like i never had

01:32:29   more than three or four urls in my

01:32:31   reading list for Apple because that's

01:32:33   all I use it for I am on the ipad and I

01:32:36   want to link to this i know i want to

01:32:38   link to it from during far but i want to

01:32:39   write more than I want to type on the

01:32:41   ipad soft add it to my reading list go

01:32:43   over sit down from my mac go to reading

01:32:46   list and the damn thing isn't there and

01:32:49   there's no reload button

01:32:50   you just have to sit there and wait

01:32:52   until you get lucky and it decides to do

01:32:54   a sink and get it and I figured out that

01:32:57   it does help though you can trigger it

01:32:59   there's no reload button but you can

01:33:01   trigger it by adding another thing to

01:33:04   the reading list on the machine you're

01:33:06   on just to just to get it to say just

01:33:09   say just tell safari hate talk to the

01:33:12   reading list sir I've done that with

01:33:13   dropbox or creative folderol touch i'll

01:33:15   do a touch on something just to like say

01:33:17   ok update but here's the craziest thing

01:33:20   the craziest thing is with safari with

01:33:22   the reading list

01:33:23   other times though you'll say add the

01:33:25   reading list and you get an alert you

01:33:27   get a dialog box that says it can't do

01:33:28   it right now because bookmarks are

01:33:30   sinking I get that all the time because

01:33:32   I I'll go in and want to do one of my

01:33:34   bookmark site i do my books mostly from

01:33:36   the little book the little you don't

01:33:38   mean yeah I just leave my bookmarks menu

01:33:40   bookmarks bar whatever it is I just

01:33:42   leave that open i don't use history much

01:33:44   so I just leave that open forever going

01:33:46   in there what do I have quicks for kicks

01:33:48   or whatever

01:33:49   instapaper Italy any of those yeah but

01:33:52   then suddenly you good and will be these

01:33:54   folders in there it's like sorry nothing

01:33:55   here right now which is harrowing right

01:33:58   even for a second isn't that we all it's

01:34:00   awful

01:34:01   I mean it's like you get default up

01:34:02   paying right you should be something

01:34:03   this looks like my stuff is that I had

01:34:07   an iphone replaced all a while ago was

01:34:09   in the in the sinking era and how to go

01:34:11   to the apple store and get a get a unit

01:34:13   swapped out and I got the new and they

01:34:15   open it up and I put in my and they're

01:34:18   like hey you know we got super fast

01:34:19   Wi-Fi here to connect to that you could

01:34:20   you know restore from iCloud backup and

01:34:23   I was again why don't I just do that you

01:34:28   know i mean if you know it seems super

01:34:30   convenient when I just didn't have the

01:34:31   eyes I walk out of the store i'll have

01:34:33   all my stuff on my phone and I type in

01:34:35   my icloud name and password and it says

01:34:37   you want to restore from a backup and

01:34:39   the the most recent backup was like

01:34:40   seven months before I was like oh my god

01:34:43   like my now I i double back up i also

01:34:46   backup to my mac at home but still as a

01:34:49   you know as a nerd that that's like a

01:34:51   heart attack right there right and the

01:34:53   expert guy was like the music I know

01:34:55   what it is it's because that you

01:34:57   probably have the

01:34:58   you're the phone you just swapped out

01:34:59   had ios 5.1 and in this phone as 501

01:35:04   in other words the phone that they gave

01:35:06   me the replacement had an older version

01:35:08   of iOS but it didn't let you log in

01:35:10   yeah but in other words that only let me

01:35:12   update from the backup from when i was

01:35:14   using that version of iOS you know what

01:35:17   I mean like I ideal and I think that

01:35:19   must be what happened to me one time on

01:35:21   my iPad didn't do the research so i had

01:35:25   to update the phone to the new version

01:35:26   of iOS first then I could restore to the

01:35:29   thing but that that's that same thing

01:35:31   that moment areum thing where what it

01:35:34   shows you and not what you expected and

01:35:36   what it's showing you is involves data

01:35:38   loss it's like oh my god and you did

01:35:40   that from your Mac from your laptop did

01:35:44   the restoring order yeah i just said the

01:35:46   I what I ended up doing is just leaving

01:35:47   the store with the phone in factory

01:35:49   condition and just went home and and

01:35:50   updated and all from the mac how much

01:35:53   you okay i guess but anyway how much how

01:35:55   would you have done if I'm sorry how

01:35:56   would you have done if you don't have a

01:35:57   mac i would have first updated the OS to

01:36:00   iOS 5.1 over the war over the erica and

01:36:05   then I then restored from backup

01:36:08   ok so you could do it good better

01:36:11   planned on that one for backup dork

01:36:13   right but anyway with Apple sinking tabs

01:36:17   right now singing bookmarks you can't

01:36:19   even add a new bookmark while it's

01:36:22   syncing bookmarks and this seems to

01:36:24   happen to me all the time and it's not

01:36:25   like something i ran into once I mean

01:36:27   this is a dialogue i get all the time or

01:36:29   we're on the other hand with chrome and

01:36:30   google all your open tabs are synced

01:36:33   instantly between everything let alone

01:36:35   your bookmarks so anyway Apple clearly

01:36:38   chasing google in that regard sinking

01:36:40   these the the browser data google now

01:36:44   there's one where i actually think even

01:36:47   know that you know that's like their

01:36:48   Serie like thing that's something that

01:36:51   even though they haven't had anything

01:36:52   that's quite like Siri in terms of the

01:36:54   user experience in terms of the actual

01:36:56   hey who knows how to do stuff like this

01:36:59   that's right in Google's wheelhouse

01:37:01   right

01:37:01   in other words what what is siri siri is

01:37:03   let me give you a couple of words and

01:37:06   you figure out what I mean

01:37:07   then show it and you know all google

01:37:11   really had to copy from Apple was this

01:37:12   idea of you know what if we really know

01:37:14   if we know exactly what the users asking

01:37:17   for if they just say Yankees score we

01:37:20   know we're a hundred ninety-nine percent

01:37:22   sure we're a hundred percent sure this

01:37:23   guy wants to know what the most recent

01:37:25   Yankee score is we can show that

01:37:28   information using a design template

01:37:30   known for this particular nugget you

01:37:34   know of data i think that the google now

01:37:38   thing looks great only thing i hate

01:37:39   about is the name the name is so stupid

01:37:41   i got last week on the show I got

01:37:42   confused when Adam was talking about it

01:37:44   because he was saying something about

01:37:46   google now and I thought he meant google

01:37:48   the company today today's google google

01:37:51   here would be better

01:37:52   no because of how would you spell here

01:37:54   see ya see this is why you got the

01:37:58   popular blog that's true but that you

01:38:01   know that is you talk about the special

01:38:03   sauce supposedly this truly special

01:38:05   spots

01:38:05   it's just just for mrs. google is the

01:38:08   scale everybody says the real thing

01:38:10   about Google scale but the thing that we

01:38:12   see those the consumer-facing thing is

01:38:15   that like we're pretty sure we know what

01:38:16   you want right we know going to want and

01:38:18   we and because we know what you want we

01:38:21   can show it to you in a way that is far

01:38:23   more both pleasing and informative and

01:38:27   and conveys the information better than

01:38:30   a just a list of texts results right of

01:38:35   any anything and everything and then we

01:38:37   won't throw up our hands with serious

01:38:39   because series got a couple level three

01:38:41   levels of problem which is first of all

01:38:42   there's the connectivity issues trying

01:38:44   to place my relatives yesterday who are

01:38:46   her recent iphone people I said you know

01:38:48   it's a little sprite no I typically

01:38:50   terrible analogies but it's kinda like

01:38:52   having an eight-lane freeway where you

01:38:56   really need like you would you could be

01:38:58   okay if it was a 16 lane freeway and

01:39:00   still find room like you like your

01:39:02   series Scott to get to the clouds got to

01:39:04   get to where you want to call it the sky

01:39:06   and Cirie has to talk to something to

01:39:08   get it so there's the problem of like if

01:39:10   the bandwidth isn't there you're not

01:39:12   hooked up right you know hooked up to

01:39:13   where it can get

01:39:14   it's not going to happen but even then

01:39:16   like you could get the server error

01:39:18   which was I'm percent which I read as

01:39:20   it's just too

01:39:21   busy it's not it's pretty taciturn about

01:39:23   explaining why it didn't work right but

01:39:25   then the other problem that is running I

01:39:27   feel like I run into more and it doesn't

01:39:29   make sense to me is it just doesn't get

01:39:32   words right like words that I say all

01:39:34   the time unless unless i'm having some

01:39:36   kind of palsy

01:39:37   I don't understand why it's having a

01:39:38   harder time rather than better time

01:39:40   understanding me but I don't have a

01:39:43   problem see really does seem to

01:39:45   understand me i get the fall back to I

01:39:48   don't mind the Wolfram Alpha fall back

01:39:49   because that's like pretty good but i do

01:39:51   get a lot of you know do you want to

01:39:53   search the web for ma'am Mambo dogface

01:39:56   to the banana patch or whatever but in

01:39:58   this instance I think you're describing

01:39:59   here is really great especially if

01:40:00   you're busy you're on the run the

01:40:02   ability to just say two words like

01:40:04   everyone is in Philadelphia but like say

01:40:07   you might say nearest muni write

01:40:09   something just by just by understanding

01:40:10   like there's several factors that can go

01:40:13   into having a pretty good idea what it

01:40:15   is i'm looking for and even being able

01:40:17   to fall back on that you mean one of

01:40:19   these three things you know like from

01:40:21   alpha is pretty great at that ever use

01:40:22   i'm gonna use the website a lot i didn't

01:40:24   do i use it use it for all my stock

01:40:27   stuff on a link from doing for i find

01:40:29   that they're there

01:40:30   yeah they're they're they're really good

01:40:31   and I'm not surprised at all that

01:40:32   Apple's oh it's terrific relying on them

01:40:35   for a lot of the serious stuff

01:40:37   my only beef with the website is they've

01:40:38   got a little bit bananas with all the

01:40:40   like sign up for the pro account stuff

01:40:41   yeah this they've taken a lot of

01:40:43   features but you know you gotta make

01:40:44   money whatever but like I i do this all

01:40:46   time yesterday you know I said you know

01:40:48   how many days is it from this date in

01:40:52   this year to today to show my daughter

01:40:53   how many days old she was and had a

01:40:55   second

01:40:56   yeah you know what's-what's what is a

01:40:58   what is on a hundred eleven percent of

01:41:00   forty-six dollars because i just wanna

01:41:02   know what the tip is for delivery I'm

01:41:04   not that you know you as you know like

01:41:06   you I'm good

01:41:07   well you know what you think that's

01:41:08   pretty good for delivery yeah i died i

01:41:10   do it for delivery man as a hard one

01:41:14   see I used to on the two-dollar people

01:41:16   for a long time was a 20-percent person

01:41:18   I think it's a sucker thing to twenty

01:41:20   percent on delivery

01:41:21   it's ridiculous I I tip 20 rounding down

01:41:24   rather than rounding up the eleven

01:41:27   percent a roundup which i think is very

01:41:29   generous for delivery

01:41:31   yeah so like a $55 delivery al

01:41:33   tip 10 bucks right here i'll throw in

01:41:39   ten bucks

01:41:39   what's a hundred and eleven percent was

01:41:41   again with the help of 255 dollar bill

01:41:43   $55 855 even yeah okay what's a hundred

01:41:48   eleven percent of $55 talking fast as I

01:41:51   know we're almost out of time

01:41:52   ok here you go miss a game eleven

01:41:58   percent that's a six-dollar see my wife

01:42:00   I differ on this let's get a little

01:42:02   picture of a nickel

01:42:03   that's cute I look at that but i always

01:42:06   do that anyway they can see again my

01:42:09   demos for the worst but um but I can see

01:42:12   this being super useful so you watch

01:42:13   your years what you're saying you're

01:42:15   larger point that i keep interrupting

01:42:16   you on is that gears and teeth so that

01:42:19   the the thing I wonder about that in

01:42:21   terms of moving forward with things is

01:42:23   here isn't it might be the wrong analogy

01:42:24   when I know I know but I didn't think

01:42:26   they seem to complement each other where

01:42:28   they're each working on the other's

01:42:30   strengths

01:42:31   well I minimalistic this is matt other

01:42:34   maps google claiming google as women way

01:42:36   ahead of the game on maps and now

01:42:38   everybody's buying these map companies

01:42:39   everybody's doing their maps i think

01:42:41   google i think the iOS mapped in the

01:42:43   beta that I can't talk about is actually

01:42:45   pretty good

01:42:46   fashions not I and it is so fat he said

01:42:49   he noticed that

01:42:49   yeah and it looks beautifully easy i

01:42:51   like the heart of this license and

01:42:53   vector Rowling's yeah only around in

01:42:55   maps is crazy fast yeah it's really

01:42:57   really nice but it is missing the

01:43:00   transit information which flawed or

01:43:02   imperfect as it were as it is from

01:43:05   google is better than nothing and street

01:43:08   view is it

01:43:10   we talked about this adam and john

01:43:11   august i talked about this last week

01:43:13   street view is more practically useful

01:43:15   than the flyover view that Apple has

01:43:17   apples flyer review is far more

01:43:19   impressive feels like you're making a

01:43:21   movie but in terms of hey i'm in the

01:43:23   city or this neighborhood i'm not

01:43:25   familiar with what am I supposed to be

01:43:27   seeing if I'm looking you know this is

01:43:29   what I'm looking for in Street View is

01:43:30   like that and that cool thing that they

01:43:33   demoed i don't know if you saw this they

01:43:34   call it compass view they think the

01:43:36   nexus 7 does it but you hold up like

01:43:39   your tablet and it using the

01:43:41   accelerometer and

01:43:42   whatever else is in there you get it

01:43:45   gives you like a live streetview like as

01:43:47   you pivot the thing around it it's like

01:43:50   a window into the world

01:43:52   oh google earth where yeah it's not just

01:43:55   it's not just the horizontal axis when

01:43:56   you move it up right like if you want to

01:43:58   select google goggles if you want to

01:44:00   yeah if you want to turn around you

01:44:01   actually just hold the thing up in front

01:44:03   of your face and turn around and it

01:44:04   shows you what you would see in its

01:44:06   super useful I think Apple clean up by a

01:44:09   even Apple technology after catching up

01:44:11   on maps but then you get the google play

01:44:14   which is there in their store and the

01:44:17   apps everybody knows the android apps

01:44:19   are nowhere near as good as iOS apps and

01:44:23   they have way less like media content

01:44:25   like they don't have music from Warner

01:44:27   Brothers and like if you use itunes u

01:44:29   dont even reviewed who the hell knows

01:44:31   what the move the the records stations

01:44:33   are right i mean right record companies

01:44:36   are who knows who's on warner brothers

01:44:38   and who's on universal or whatever like

01:44:41   that it's just you just know that it's

01:44:42   in these it's very rare these days that

01:44:44   I don't find what I want on for music

01:44:46   read books are different situation far

01:44:49   very far different situation but no with

01:44:52   music I I very seldom if anything i have

01:44:54   to go figure out which one of this i

01:44:56   want to i want the deluxe edition doing

01:44:58   is the movie store they have nothing

01:44:59   from Fox sono ice age

01:45:01   x-men avatar none of the twilight movies

01:45:05   and the TV store they don't have

01:45:07   anything CBS fox WB HBO BBC MTV

01:45:12   Nickelodeon Showtime discovery history

01:45:15   networks so no madman no modern family

01:45:19   no family guy I'm stealing this all from

01:45:22   David Polk that sounds hard and I you

01:45:25   know it's like one of those little

01:45:26   underappreciated things about Apple is

01:45:28   the way that they have over the decades

01:45:30   since they've opened the itunes music

01:45:32   store negotiated with all of these

01:45:34   little fiefdom of media major media

01:45:37   content holders in the US and around the

01:45:40   world most importantly and I know that

01:45:42   like even apple doesn't have TV shows

01:45:45   all over the world but they certainly

01:45:47   have more than just in the US right

01:45:49   because that was the other thing that

01:45:50   came out yesterday is that the the you

01:45:52   can buy the the new google 7-inch tab

01:45:55   it in the UK but you don't get any TV

01:45:57   shows or movies or magazines or

01:45:59   something like that because they don't

01:46:01   have the rights for really really hard

01:46:03   and apple is clearly ahead of them there

01:46:05   and I think you know clearly amazon is

01:46:08   to the Nexus Q that the crazy

01:46:14   three-hundred-dollar media player

01:46:16   I mean it's ridiculous 300 bucks and it

01:46:18   does less than the apple TV that cost

01:46:20   $99 I mean apples clearly ahead of their

01:46:23   I mean the airplay thing is actually

01:46:24   pretty awesome right

01:46:26   I mean that's the I think that's what

01:46:28   their airplanes airplane is ridiculous

01:46:30   right bottom line magic

01:46:32   yeah bottom line is that's what they

01:46:33   have to catch up on because it's a

01:46:34   killer feature is I've got this video

01:46:36   for this photo

01:46:38   unlike my kid i want to i want to watch

01:46:40   this youtube video but it's no fun for

01:46:42   three people to watch a video on a phone

01:46:44   right i had a button it's on the appletv

01:46:46   and it really unlike so many things it

01:46:48   really does just work looks crazy that

01:46:51   it just works right and and you know and

01:46:52   yeah exactly could just be a youtube and

01:46:54   now that everybody is shooting

01:46:55   everything in HD and YouTube except

01:46:58   everything in HD and you show and when

01:46:59   you plant in a web browser window on

01:47:02   your Mac it you know the HD thing is

01:47:03   nice but when you plan on your Apple TV

01:47:05   you can tell this is actually like HD

01:47:07   really really so Google clearly catching

01:47:11   up to apple right there

01:47:12   I feel like everything they announced

01:47:14   though is something that's either

01:47:15   reinforcing one of their strengths that

01:47:18   the other one doesn't have and/or

01:47:20   announcing some sort of catch-up

01:47:22   initiative in the other regard

01:47:23   well it's I think there's probably I

01:47:28   mean if I I don't follow this stuff

01:47:30   anywhere near as close as you do but I

01:47:32   mean I think there's probably of some a

01:47:34   lot of good reasons for that I mean one

01:47:38   thing is that i imagine that

01:47:39   shareholders and a lot of there's still

01:47:41   a lot of people that respond very well

01:47:43   to tables with check marks and it's you

01:47:48   know it's one of those frustrating to me

01:47:50   to me personally it's one of those

01:47:51   frustrating like okay I go I want to

01:47:53   find out which version of this adobe

01:47:56   thing I've gotta buy and I gotta sit

01:47:58   there and like move my finger down the

01:47:59   screen but you know I'm talking about

01:48:01   don't know that the web professional

01:48:03   enterprise prayer well what about your

01:48:05   your buddy Brett tipsters

01:48:08   iOS text editor chart which is like one

01:48:10   of the great wonders of the world but

01:48:12   you can flip off the columns you don't

01:48:14   need right that sometimes you know but

01:48:17   sometimes I'm I'm positing that I'm

01:48:19   putting that as you know a place where

01:48:21   that actually is useful

01:48:22   well I'm but just to go straight to your

01:48:24   to your thing though I mean like I think

01:48:26   it's pretty and I jokingly referred to

01:48:28   this earlier but i think it is pretty

01:48:30   great that you can make fun of apple for

01:48:33   their like by this white thing or that

01:48:34   white thing but i think it is pretty

01:48:36   great that you can actually it's not

01:48:38   really that hard to go in and buy this

01:48:41   thing on your phone like if you want to

01:48:43   buy an ipad it's not super hard like

01:48:44   they're they're all my gosh it's

01:48:45   overwhelming there's eight options or

01:48:47   whatever I think that's really really

01:48:48   neat we are reducing the number of SKUs

01:48:50   you're making easier to buy you're not

01:48:52   doing this who have somebody had that

01:48:53   whole post about trying to the dell site

01:48:55   and like having to identify whether

01:48:57   there are student or a multimedia user

01:48:59   and it's just that kind of like that

01:49:00   kind of brain-dead business unit

01:49:02   thinking that led us to this terrible

01:49:04   websites where was organized around

01:49:06   company 50 times

01:49:07   I'm to the point I want to make is that

01:49:09   for a lot of people there is one of the

01:49:11   soldiers rephrase down good enough to

01:49:13   not be nothing and I don't know if

01:49:15   that's good or not but i just wrote that

01:49:16   down

01:49:17   sometimes you just want to i think in a

01:49:19   company a lot of companies with that

01:49:21   have a pretty popular normal kind of

01:49:24   approach to business

01:49:25   say something that's good enough to not

01:49:26   be nothing and I think that's the kind

01:49:28   of thing that really grinds your gears

01:49:29   is when somebody does something that is

01:49:31   merely something that's good enough to

01:49:33   not be nothing and i think its seat

01:49:35   strikes me that was very frustrating to

01:49:37   you when a lot of Polish care business

01:49:40   document integration at every step of

01:49:43   the the kind of thing that makes an

01:49:44   iphone which is a really magical device

01:49:46   you know it's not it shouldn't be as

01:49:48   simple as just going oh yeah we got that

01:49:49   too kind of right right so you're going

01:49:53   to do we got some movies

01:49:55   ok check right that for somebody who

01:49:58   buys in that way and let's be honest a

01:50:00   lot of enterprise people buy stuff like

01:50:01   that thereby who's got the most checks

01:50:03   and you know the thing is it isn't the

01:50:05   consumer who came up with that grid you

01:50:07   know the kind of ground talking about i

01:50:08   know get the three levels of service

01:50:10   would you get this one you get the free

01:50:12   Johnson rod or whatever I think that

01:50:14   good and we're going to say good enough

01:50:16   to not be nothing is plenty for a lot of

01:50:18   people

01:50:19   and you know netflix netflix streaming

01:50:21   came out boy it was it was really the

01:50:24   kind of thing I used to make you want to

01:50:26   cancel my cable at any level of quality

01:50:28   so but also i mean there's also just

01:50:31   this philosophical difference in

01:50:32   approach and i mean i guess and i don't

01:50:35   mean this in the way that it sounds but

01:50:36   i wonder how much this matters to people

01:50:37   who are not strictly partisans for

01:50:40   google apple or otherwise i mean i think

01:50:43   a lot of people just want to cheap phone

01:50:44   that does stuff and they go oh cool i

01:50:46   can do movies now too

01:50:48   well I think you hard winter because

01:50:49   it's close enough to looking like that

01:50:50   thing in the ads it's not going to cost

01:50:52   me as much and and they're they're not

01:50:54   gonna sit there and analyze whether this

01:50:55   is closer to a kindle fire and ipad or a

01:50:58   play play my store whatever its called

01:51:00   I don't think that's almost bestbuy kind

01:51:02   of people think and I don't know how

01:51:05   kind of who they're going for I don't no

01:51:07   don't don't you think that they're kind

01:51:09   of going for people who want a

01:51:10   twenty-dollar phone or want to go to

01:51:11   bestbuy and get a black thing that's not

01:51:13   an ipad i get maybe I reductive I mean

01:51:17   that it's probably super productive and

01:51:18   insulting to everyone involved but i

01:51:20   don't think so i think with the play

01:51:21   that I think they actually were very

01:51:22   honest about it and that it or not to

01:51:24   play the nexus 7 but that it's all about

01:51:27   the play store when that they just said

01:51:29   like three or four times they reiterated

01:51:30   this is the thing that you buy for using

01:51:33   content consuming content from google

01:51:35   play apps movies TV shows magazine right

01:51:38   right right we've got all this stuff you

01:51:40   buy this thing for 199 bucks and that's

01:51:42   how you use it you know and that's why I

01:51:45   think it's so much more clearly which is

01:51:46   kind of what the first apple TV was yeah

01:51:49   definitely I mean it was kind of a

01:51:51   hardware device for itunes yeah and it's

01:51:53   funny because it got cheaper but got

01:51:55   more versatile like that more expensive

01:51:58   original one was far more limited to the

01:52:00   itunes universe then then the current

01:52:04   that's really that's a really

01:52:05   interesting point because i actually I

01:52:07   kind of wish so I just have a hacked

01:52:09   apple TV i used to have hacked apple TV

01:52:12   that would let me run all that stuff on

01:52:14   it i used to do it a lot to be honest it

01:52:16   was during the beta that I got sick of

01:52:17   restoring and then reacting because it's

01:52:19   a little bit of a pain but you know

01:52:21   what's funny is I i didn't really miss

01:52:23   it i can still use my Mac Mini with VLC

01:52:25   to watch whatever but like if you know

01:52:28   what's funny is if anything with my

01:52:30   Apple I don't have those super super

01:52:31   late because I told him it

01:52:33   1080p TV but have a 1080i TV can you

01:52:36   believe that exists it's not as our I

01:52:39   don't even know what that it's like

01:52:40   biometric gasoline or something just

01:52:41   doesn't I don't even know what that

01:52:42   means

01:52:43   um so but when r is there anything I

01:52:45   wish I could take some icons away like I

01:52:47   yeah we know it's funny we met that pal

01:52:49   years the MLB guy i've made that crack

01:52:51   about how like you doing incredibly

01:52:54   impressive job with something I couldn't

01:52:55   care less about and I mean that is the

01:52:57   biggest compliment in the world and

01:52:58   there will be things amazing like but I

01:53:00   don't need to see that on my screen like

01:53:01   I wish I could just see you know I mean

01:53:03   Peters settings movies TV netflix

01:53:06   podcast yeah you know it means you're

01:53:09   crazy that you can't move those around I

01:53:11   don't know how you would do it because I

01:53:12   know the way that you know looks like

01:53:14   something you would do by touch but it

01:53:15   is enough but it does seem to know that

01:53:17   somebody who who is a huge NBA fan

01:53:21   should be able to move the NBA one to be

01:53:24   more prominent than the major league

01:53:25   baseball in and someone who doesn't like

01:53:26   sports at all I be able to move those to

01:53:28   the bottom

01:53:29   oh yeah I mean I in an ideal world this

01:53:30   is a little bit android i guess but it

01:53:32   would have if you like my channels but

01:53:34   you know what i mean like if you could

01:53:35   say and then again this is a problem

01:53:38   that has not been solved by stuff like

01:53:39   boxy I mean or boxy swell plexus well

01:53:42   I've tried all of them i think that's

01:53:45   where Apple's going with the apple TV

01:53:46   though is that it's going to be apps and

01:53:49   that the apps are like channels and that

01:53:50   you are you gonna get some kind of

01:53:52   customization yeah but they I mean even

01:53:55   I don't mind all of those because most

01:53:56   of the stuff i want is you know apart

01:53:58   from podcast is is up near the top i can

01:54:00   get the netflix in a couple clicks I

01:54:02   still got a lot of beef with the

01:54:03   interface for some reason the remote app

01:54:04   on my phone isn't working anymore i

01:54:06   don't know why i run up against the Home

01:54:08   Sharing thing constantly having to

01:54:09   re-enter all my stuff everywhere I don't

01:54:11   know I guess I'm hitting my limit or

01:54:12   something but it's the apple TV thing is

01:54:15   really kind of transformative what like

01:54:19   I think like I think by far away the

01:54:21   worst Apple experience you can possibly

01:54:23   have right now today is entering a

01:54:26   halfway decent password just don't even

01:54:29   say the words I do I was the Apple TV

01:54:32   right out the jobs had lived long enough

01:54:34   that I could watch him try to enter like

01:54:36   a medium security password with the

01:54:38   white dingus

01:54:39   or you can select or deselect over and

01:54:43   over email just entering a horrible

01:54:46   password your your your first child's

01:54:48   first name as your password all lower it

01:54:52   has a capital letter right track it and

01:54:55   i totally agree with you it's totally

01:54:57   crazy now and the thing is you know

01:54:58   security siracusa didn't realize that

01:55:00   the remote app existed so he has a Greek

01:55:02   you can you imagine I I know it's crazy

01:55:04   she was really good he um he had he had

01:55:07   to go through that it can you imagine

01:55:08   that poor guy is comfortable as he is

01:55:10   with a four-way dingus

01:55:11   yeah like but the other thing with that

01:55:14   is that one thing that's an escape got

01:55:16   just the thing though it's inescapable

01:55:17   so you can have to everybody has to

01:55:19   experience this one's even if you know

01:55:20   about the remote app is that you can't

01:55:22   use the remote app until you've got the

01:55:24   thing on your Wi-Fi and so unless you

01:55:26   have no password Wi-Fi you've got to at

01:55:29   least enter one password which is your

01:55:31   Wi-Fi network using the remote everybody

01:55:34   gets to do it at least once

01:55:36   John this is this is three shows but

01:55:37   this is all this is such a whole I think

01:55:40   we've had this discussion by out in 10

01:55:42   seconds or seven minutes here's the

01:55:45   problem is it's still thursday i think

01:55:46   so you get you by your iOS device you

01:55:48   get your phone what do you flip it on

01:55:49   you guys start an account so what do you

01:55:50   do you say you know monkey but 35 @

01:55:53   me.com and pencil 69 my password

01:55:56   whatever right because you're sitting

01:55:57   there on your phone you mistyped a

01:55:59   couple times right and you go okay i

01:56:01   should pick something simpler

01:56:02   so you pick pencil 69 right Oh that'll

01:56:04   be secure it's got it just like that

01:56:06   just like the guy with the paper told me

01:56:08   now I've got a mix of numbers and

01:56:09   letters so i'm good i got a thousand

01:56:11   your password pencil 69 right and you

01:56:13   know that you know the Cascade here

01:56:15   oh I love it so i buy a mac so i turn on

01:56:17   back to my mac with pencil 69 is the

01:56:19   password i use pencil 69 because it's

01:56:20   real pain in the butt to enter the

01:56:22   internet on my appletv so now you've got

01:56:24   like five problems

01:56:25   first of all you have like a 20 second

01:56:27   password second of all you got the same

01:56:29   one on all of your devices because who

01:56:31   do you know your family has different

01:56:32   passwords for different things right

01:56:36   my my I had a family member who got I

01:56:38   told you this guy I'm Ali like that I

01:56:41   got hacked

01:56:41   you know I got half expect really but

01:56:43   how'd you get hacked i got hacked on

01:56:45   itunes

01:56:46   oh oh my god you're one of those like

01:56:47   200 people that what happens and i got

01:56:50   hacked

01:56:50   how'd you hack well I think

01:56:52   I think what was your password i was the

01:56:54   same as my name and I you know the thing

01:56:58   is I'm I don't make this a thing but i'm

01:57:00   telling you this is gonna be there's

01:57:01   gonna be there's gonna be a security 911

01:57:03   about this someday and you know and it's

01:57:05   going to be because people had to go in

01:57:08   or this ridiculously childlike password

01:57:10   and I'm telling you I don't have any

01:57:12   numbers on this John but I will bet she

01:57:13   times to doughnuts that most people keep

01:57:15   the first password that they put in

01:57:18   whatever device they started on for as

01:57:19   long as they can and they will use it

01:57:21   for as many different devices and

01:57:23   accounts as they can and they pick one

01:57:25   day they don't go and then we'll go to

01:57:27   password generators or try to test these

01:57:30   things it takes you seen me you've seen

01:57:32   how long it takes me to do my media com

01:57:33   password there was a there was a session

01:57:36   at WWDC on security and they had a Q&A

01:57:39   afterwards which is rare anymore WWDC

01:57:42   like people have ruined the Q&A with bad

01:57:45   questions so that they used to be almost

01:57:47   every session at Q&A and now very few do

01:57:49   but they were Q&A after the security

01:57:51   session and there's a is credibly astute

01:57:53   question which was it was off topic for

01:57:59   the thing but it was like Apple security

01:58:00   guys where the guys doing the session

01:58:02   and they were like what if you guys been

01:58:03   what you guys working on to just

01:58:05   completely eliminate the broken password

01:58:10   paradigm and it was like three seconds

01:58:13   of silence and the guy just said no

01:58:14   comment

01:58:15   r or no didn't say no testing which is

01:58:19   really doesn't filter i take it back he

01:58:21   said we have nothing to say about that

01:58:23   at this point which is looking around so

01:58:25   that's easier that's either that's

01:58:26   either silly are saying too much or it

01:58:28   could be anything could be nothing could

01:58:29   be should immediately said what we're

01:58:31   always working on right well i do but i

01:58:33   do think that it's something that

01:58:34   they're working good

01:58:35   and did you say there's some dude now is

01:58:37   there somebody who's like

01:58:38   single-mindedly like some famous guys on

01:58:40   this at Google

01:58:41   I'll bet there is I don't say that

01:58:43   somebody there knows this Apple somebody

01:58:45   somebody kinda like I need to get a

01:58:47   brain somebody's talking about how like

01:58:49   there's a dedicated person you're

01:58:50   dealing with the identity problem in

01:58:51   general I thought that was used i don't

01:58:53   think so huh also cover that to go back

01:58:56   five minutes that was Peter right at ARS

01:58:59   technica who wrote about trying to buy a

01:59:01   pc laptop

01:59:02   it was a very very it was it you know

01:59:05   just telling that story straight would

01:59:07   have been funny but the way he did what

01:59:08   I thought was very very fine

01:59:09   he went to del to buy a laptop and the

01:59:11   categories he had to start with we had

01:59:13   to choose between everyday computing you

01:59:17   know it's so funny I was just thinking

01:59:19   this morning design and design everyday

01:59:21   computer user I'm just finally realizing

01:59:24   that everyday computing design and

01:59:26   performance and the other one was then

01:59:28   and powerful so which one do you want

01:59:31   function of the couch it right up

01:59:35   so the better ones lanova the lenovo had

01:59:38   three categories to choose from this is

01:59:40   great

01:59:40   powered for productivity optimized for

01:59:43   entertainment and no-nonsense features

01:59:47   built for versatility

01:59:50   no not since say that again no no

01:59:53   nonsense features built for versatility

01:59:56   ok I don't that's a good category you

01:59:59   poor

01:59:59   poor

02:00:00   I guess that means poor yeah but what

02:00:03   sort of differencing optimized for

02:00:04   entertainment and powered for

02:00:05   productivity which one's the good image

02:00:08   porn or video porn i don't know i had

02:00:12   that's another thing is John I mean

02:00:14   they're getting more important point

02:00:15   which is that you really should be

02:00:16   optimized i have although they should

02:00:18   take every goddamn whiteboard out of

02:00:20   that place in break in half

02:00:21   I have always that sets a shame i have

02:00:23   often said that the best thing about

02:00:25   being a mac person is when you buy a new

02:00:27   computer it's actually not that hard

02:00:29   yeah really i think i would go nuts if I

02:00:32   had to buy windows pc i totally agree i

02:00:35   totally agree

02:00:36   hey so what do you think you can't buy

02:00:37   HD movies a lot of times

02:00:39   Wow and on iTunes I guess because they

02:00:42   think they why can you only rent it you

02:00:44   think that's a that's a label or a yeah

02:00:46   they date they don't trust rating yeah

02:00:49   that's the worst i think i think ratings

02:00:51   for suckers I mean if they let you rent

02:00:53   it out here so here's if you were me and

02:00:55   I could negotiate here's what i would

02:00:56   say you ran a movie and if you you get

02:00:59   to start it and finish it once in the

02:01:02   next 30 days right that would be if it

02:01:06   were me that's what i would say you're

02:01:07   saying you gotta see you get you can

02:01:08   have settings of this movie maybe you

02:01:10   can even rewind five minutes a couple

02:01:12   times something something but you know

02:01:13   what i mean my problem is that

02:01:14   expiration within a short period of time

02:01:16   I wouldn't I have a four-year-old

02:01:17   daughter i will never watch that movie

02:01:20   that way even in a hotel room you can

02:01:22   make a positive like watching on the

02:01:24   other te looking for in a suite or

02:01:25   something like that right but not that I

02:01:28   I that drives me a little bit crazy like

02:01:31   it somebody somewhere thinks that I

02:01:33   don't know if they think it's going to

02:01:33   be pirated but it but it can't really be

02:01:36   piracy because then why would they let

02:01:37   you read it

02:01:38   anybody was the point I mean then right

02:01:39   again your back to the whole like we're

02:01:40   not making business and so we're like

02:01:42   anyway I think that's super weird i'm

02:01:45   going to it's so not the other day you

02:01:48   know we're trying to be good about like

02:01:49   setting limits on things you know just

02:01:51   any limit as long as there's a limit

02:01:52   right that's the thing right with the

02:01:54   kids stuff it doesn't matter like you

02:01:56   know a lot of people focus on like what

02:01:57   the limit is I think it's just important

02:01:59   to have a limit and then enforce it so

02:02:00   we're going to movie night we schedule

02:02:02   movie night tonight is moving it but you

02:02:04   go and hit the thing and like in a

02:02:06   second Wally is streaming and it's

02:02:07   prettier than you

02:02:09   the internet that that is really amazing

02:02:11   to me that still blows me away every

02:02:14   time and so ustream you don't storm

02:02:17   no I used to but now I don't need to as

02:02:22   you know and I have some blurays because

02:02:23   some of the movies i truly truly that's

02:02:25   horrible i buy the blu-ray but it you

02:02:28   know what as time goes on and get more

02:02:29   used to apple TV even if i'm really in

02:02:32   the mood to watch one of my very

02:02:33   favorite movies that I've bought on

02:02:35   blu-ray the the idea of getting standing

02:02:37   up and getting a disk and I mean it's

02:02:40   all involves about four steps combined

02:02:43   to get up get the disc change the hdmi

02:02:45   cable and Allah but it all seems so

02:02:47   daunting when I could just watch you

02:02:49   know

02:02:50   21 Jump Street movie on itunes in 10

02:02:53   seconds I I really I i hate to admit

02:02:55   this because I i'm really not the kind

02:02:57   of person that blows money I blow money

02:02:58   on some stupid things like alcohol but

02:03:01   like I don't just go by like electronics

02:03:03   for like I'm just not the kind of person

02:03:05   but I was finally ok look clearly you

02:03:08   know the winter has been chosen it's

02:03:09   bluray and so I went and I got I got

02:03:12   like the the total middle-of-the-road

02:03:14   this is not that expensive whatever 203

02:03:17   and whatever alpha amazonas got the

02:03:19   blu-ray and I swear to you on my hand to

02:03:21   God I have owned more DVD players then i

02:03:24   have used the blu-ray player i bought

02:03:26   the blu-ray player and I've got exactly

02:03:28   one thing which is the godfather trilogy

02:03:30   and I watched two of them and everyone

02:03:33   should own it just for the documentary

02:03:34   that we talked about this but seriously

02:03:37   it's in the closet with the old tivo now

02:03:38   it's just like it was in it because in

02:03:40   our case we have this traffic TV we

02:03:42   don't have a great media setup and we

02:03:44   would have to like change the hdmi cable

02:03:46   and all that I guess the hdmi is like

02:03:49   where it's going now

02:03:50   I mean that's going to become the that

02:03:51   USB of stuff i guess i don't know if you

02:03:58   guys we gotta go right we have a great

02:03:59   show resident crazy that I mean it shows

02:04:01   not okay here's what i do i tell you i'd

02:04:03   give you a similar example and I know

02:04:05   it's one of your current obsessions is

02:04:07   that you're you're you and Ellie I

02:04:08   believer in the fantastic mr fox picked

02:04:11   which is not one of my favorite movies

02:04:12   of the last few years and it's one of

02:04:14   those movies that it really does I've

02:04:18   watched it so many times and I keep

02:04:20   liking it more

02:04:21   more i remember when i saw it the first

02:04:23   time and that i thought i'm almost

02:04:25   certain the boy went to see that one in

02:04:27   the theater because I thought I can't

02:04:28   miss a chance to take my kids to see Wes

02:04:30   Anderson movie I mean he's never you

02:04:31   know when the next thing that's going to

02:04:32   happen we thought we thought about rush

02:04:34   but it's got handjobs tekli and and I

02:04:38   remember when I watch it I wasn't really

02:04:40   sure I like the movie at one point and

02:04:42   then it kind of got to the end and in

02:04:43   the very end the final scene in the

02:04:45   supermarket she's to all of a sudden I

02:04:48   realized my god i just hit me all my god

02:04:50   I love this movie love it and how great

02:04:54   is that song at the end which is all the

02:04:56   Bobby 44 yeah you know what you would

02:04:58   love John Gruber you would love you

02:05:00   would love to hear two things first my

02:05:02   daughter demanding that i play street

02:05:04   fighting man on repeat all that's that

02:05:06   is I know it's not rocks off its pretty

02:05:08   good and then it's right as soon as it

02:05:10   comes on she goes oh yeah so awesome you

02:05:15   can see my son was a hundred percent the

02:05:17   same i watched the first 20 minutes of

02:05:19   it whenever it came out and I could

02:05:21   watch it somewhere and when this is cute

02:05:24   you've got to watch that movie all the

02:05:25   way through once and then watch it again

02:05:26   right and like every time you look at

02:05:28   one of those faces straight on looking

02:05:29   at the camera it's the most the late and

02:05:31   then ashes ear twitching like spinning

02:05:33   it's a total delight but it's such

02:05:36   genius filmmaking too because if you

02:05:37   listen to the lyrics of the song it's a

02:05:39   guy who's lost his girl right but yeah

02:05:42   they're great at that

02:05:43   it's a guy who lost his girl but in the

02:05:45   movie its triumphant it strengthened and

02:05:48   it it makes you it makes you feel happy

02:05:51   even though the lowest did you buy it on

02:05:53   the we know what we did here's the thing

02:05:55   here's Mary is what made me think about

02:05:56   it and this is a perfect way to end the

02:05:58   show is that we bought the blu-ray and

02:05:59   it's i think i think it was one of those

02:06:01   1 i'm almost certain i think it's one of

02:06:02   those ones where you buy the blu-ray and

02:06:05   it comes with the DVD and a digital

02:06:07   download from itunes but that isn't its

02:06:10   SD you know it's not HD HD extra

02:06:14   features are totally changed but but

02:06:16   rather than get the blu-ray out and go

02:06:18   through it i'll just hit play on apple

02:06:20   TV and play a lesser version maybe

02:06:22   there's HD I don't know but it still

02:06:24   doesn't look as good as the blu-ray and

02:06:25   even though I'm the type of guy really

02:06:27   cares about how stuff looks and i bought

02:06:29   the blu-ray because i really want to see

02:06:31   like the actual hairs on

02:06:32   and that characters twitch and stuff

02:06:35   like that it's so much more convenient

02:06:37   to just fired up on on itunes and stream

02:06:39   it is ridiculous we've talked about this

02:06:41   before I think you know your wife's

02:06:42   underwear so Weezer fan I can't tell you

02:06:44   how many copies of weezer i bought

02:06:46   because I didn't want to go in the other

02:06:47   room get the CD the blue record it's

02:06:50   it's it's asinine and like once you get

02:06:52   that Apple has apple has me bent over

02:06:54   something like that their eyes I've got

02:06:57   a lot of albums i've got a lot of albums

02:06:59   that i just did the torpedoes i think

02:07:00   that's it another right I just don't

02:07:02   want to risk because that I think to

02:07:03   even I have to find the disk and then i

02:07:05   gotta wait for it to rip and it takes me

02:07:06   10 minutes to reboot CD or words that's

02:07:09   true whether using handbrake i

02:07:10   discovered this one called I flicks it's

02:07:12   pretty great if he's I flicks no okay

02:07:15   you should check it out but now i

02:07:17   totally agree with you and they I mean

02:07:18   like I can't believe in a million years

02:07:19   that I ever got that comfortable you run

02:07:21   that app that shows how much you spent

02:07:22   on apps

02:07:23   no I don't do it no don't do it don't do

02:07:25   it yeah why would I writing my paper

02:07:27   receipts 1010 you can ask you a question

02:07:31   yeah you really use dashes instead of

02:07:33   asterisks 44 you else i do well you know

02:07:38   what I my very own that ok i know you

02:07:41   can use both right

02:07:42   yeah most of them are going to email i

02:07:44   said yeah it did I didn't look at it

02:07:46   right now okay alright just check it out

02:07:49   sometime some stuff like some of Brett

02:07:50   tips of stuff does better with asterisks

02:07:52   like the do you have to use would use

02:07:54   his mark on services

02:07:55   I don't think so oh god I should teach

02:07:58   you about markdown it's really cool and

02:07:59   I right by Wright markdown like a

02:08:01   caveman

02:08:02   that's a shame on you i think i do i'm

02:08:05   pretty sure i write like a caveman chami

02:08:07   i'm talking about markdown stuff but you

02:08:11   know what i use the dashes I think

02:08:12   because I I'd I so pretty early looks

02:08:15   right here

02:08:15   I so overly associate the asterisks with

02:08:18   italicized as Talas ation yeah right i

02:08:22   still disagree i still disagree with the

02:08:24   design decision about astros vs.

02:08:26   underscores but that's because I wasn't

02:08:28   well you know I still have a preference

02:08:29   I still if i can i will go in and edit

02:08:31   something so that while i wait before I

02:08:36   even knew you I wrote to you about this

02:08:37   and you sent me a taciturn response as

02:08:39   you do but I'd said like textile I think

02:08:42   asterisks I think it's textile I think

02:08:44   asterisks should be

02:08:46   bold and underscore should be Italian oh

02:08:48   but no no of course I changed my life

02:08:51   around your goddamn thing you don't

02:08:52   maintain anymore but right now i'm ok

02:08:53   with that because now it's muscle memory

02:08:55   you should make this better for guys

02:08:57   that he's doing amazing stuff with your

02:08:58   stuff i do maintain it i maintain it by

02:09:00   not screwing around with it

02:09:01   that's smart yeah you know everybody

02:09:04   tells me that I need to do more with

02:09:06   Mark different Jon you're at a time

02:09:07   where we ended for change every week

02:09:09   there's more and more people using this

02:09:11   thing i don't like is that proves it

02:09:13   right now it doesn't it I don't know I

02:09:15   just feel like with ours dicking around

02:09:17   with the syntax all the time i would

02:09:18   Cano not know different showcase all

02:09:22   right i'll try that but you know he has

02:09:23   stuff like you select these lines suck

02:09:25   lines and hit command shift eight

02:09:27   interns at all into UL a hit command

02:09:31   ship one interns mode LOL thats not done

02:09:35   as fast as hell

02:09:36   it's fast as hell yeah I could see that

02:09:38   i'm looking at i'm looking at

02:09:40   impermanent alright well yeah I think

02:09:42   okay right before we sign off when we

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02:10:04   Merlin thank you thank you for doing

02:10:06   this i think the whole thing came off

02:10:07   pretty well I'm very friendly for two

02:10:09   guys who the last time I saw you in

02:10:11   person you were doing a photoshoot in

02:10:13   the house of shields bathroom with my

02:10:14   wife

02:10:15   yeah that's not good yeah yeah the thing

02:10:18   is I i want to get accessible i was

02:10:20   charging ten bucks at first for them and

02:10:23   then I realized that 99 cents i could

02:10:24   actually get more out of his countenance

02:10:26   the paper model for photos of your wife

02:10:27   i don't think i said i send you all of

02:10:29   them my gosh you guys got all of them

02:10:30   but i don't know i think i had some

02:10:32   photos and they look like along the way

02:10:34   she looks like she's trying she realizes

02:10:36   someone's taking a picture of the urinal

02:10:37   little photo bombing and she wants to

02:10:39   just get make sure she's in the picture

02:10:41   is that was so funny

02:10:44   it looks like some we should send the

02:10:46   american apparel haha ah