0:00:00I have a bit of a cold can hear it just
0:00:03when you sniffle what kind of culture
0:00:05got I got the good kind
0:00:07I got the kind of don't i don't feel
0:00:08like my whole body doesn't feel sick and
0:00:10I only feel sick from like the neck up
0:00:13I feel like a constipated that's a good
0:00:15girl it's a good called I don't feel I
0:00:17hate a long cold now it's not a long
0:00:19cold it's it's it i feel like my head is
0:00:22a prop in a Nickelodeon TV show
0:00:26uh-huh uh-huh right just take it down
0:00:30from the shelf and snap it around if you
0:00:32stay with code word then this dinner
0:00:34then all the group is gonna is gonna
0:00:35come gushing out
0:00:37oh god that was weird like I seem to
0:00:40like that goop little too much when
0:00:44there's some cute girl over the music
0:00:45career that was on there
0:00:47oh yeah otherwise i wanted some light on
0:00:49that my sister used to watch that show
0:00:52so the and so therefore i used to watch
0:00:54that show because what else are you
0:00:57going to do when someone else in your
0:00:59family with one TV set is watching the
0:01:01show that you don't even enjoy and that
0:01:04you're going to sit there and comment
0:01:05about how you don't enjoy it every
0:01:06single day during a half hour that it's
0:01:08not there is nothing else in the
0:01:09universe you could do during that time
0:01:11then to sit there and complain about it
0:01:14mm it's like a chain together because
0:01:16there's times when you're going to watch
0:01:17your baseball or whatever and she's
0:01:19going to be moaning and so you could
0:01:21always in cause a reaction similar to
0:01:24that when you watch it or as i
0:01:26understand i'm an only child as you know
0:01:28but you can also hit her understand I
0:01:30wish I was an only child
0:01:32mm I you know I never looked back to I
0:01:35gotta tell you the truth there's you
0:01:37know I few things get under my skin the
0:01:39way the phrase just the one gets under
0:01:42my skin
0:01:43I don't know why that bothers bothers me
0:01:44so much but it really really bugs me and
0:01:47and I as an only child my daughter that
0:01:50are my wife is the youngest of seven so
0:01:52she she know that that's close to being
0:01:55an only child
0:01:56it is an injury when you're the youngest
0:01:58you're very you you well I think there's
0:02:00really only one only child in a seven
0:02:01child family that's the oldest they take
0:02:04a thousand pictures that kid they take
0:02:05500 pictures in this connection you can
0:02:07do the math there's one picture of my
0:02:08daughter play something a little bit
0:02:11about it
0:02:11i think is one of her like getting a
0:02:14broken arm set in the garage or
0:02:16something with that perfect i'll be
0:02:19honest i find that stopping over x-ray
0:02:20it just says Madeline 1978 it's rubbed
0:02:27off and just broken wrists but you're
0:02:30doing well you certainly sound you sound
0:02:31great for Sigma now you see my command
0:02:33is not afraid to to tweak his body with
0:02:36the chemicals are indeed we take for
0:02:39that you do a sudafed you go go to the
0:02:40pharmacy now here if we want to get
0:02:42sudafed the real thing
0:02:44the stuff that really works you gotta go
0:02:46I guess its federal do you have to go to
0:02:48the pharmacy and plopped down in july i
0:02:50have honestly given up on legitimate
0:02:52sudafed I don't know that we have any
0:02:55might have some stashed away somewhere
0:02:56where I used to I used to always suffer
0:02:59and and take nothing and then Amy would
0:03:01tell me you're an idiot you're all
0:03:03stuffed up you got to take some sudafed
0:03:04and i would take some sudafed and then I
0:03:06would realize you know this is a there's
0:03:08a there's a medicine that actually does
0:03:11what it's supposed to do but it really
0:03:15isit's yeah i know you you've used one
0:03:18of your recurring bit but the way you
0:03:20know the the the but hoops you have to
0:03:22jump through now to buy sudafed united
0:03:24states are so absurd that it i realized
0:03:26i was a bit i polished not even a bit
0:03:27but it's it's a very frustrating
0:03:30yeah because it's you know it's
0:03:31something that actually worked it worked
0:03:34as you know people people used to walk
0:03:36in there in the days when I would enjoy
0:03:38faedron it used to be you could walk in
0:03:40there the ephedrine that I used to get
0:03:42the really good stuff the unadulterated
0:03:43unadulterated stuff that i would buy for
0:03:45band practice in the eighties you get a
0:03:47bottle of like think 50 for three
0:03:50dollars American seeing a malt liquor
0:03:52and fifty ephedrine for less than five
0:03:54bucks so you know that's right company
0:03:57so people go in there and these these
0:03:58low-level doofuses would go in and steal
0:04:01packages and packages sudafed and then I
0:04:03guess make a small amount of my theory
0:04:06on this is that it is to stop illegal
0:04:08drug production i believe but you know
0:04:10you watch more movies I don't think
0:04:12that's how you do it you want to
0:04:13lufthansa level heights you're not gonna
0:04:15go to walgreens for times like you're
0:04:16going to think bigger
0:04:17I think you have hijacked a truck you'll
0:04:19stick something in your gang jacket and
0:04:21walk out yeah I don't understand why it
0:04:23can't just be a
0:04:25using a ball limit you know that you
0:04:27could buy 10 24 capsules in a single
0:04:31transaction at the counter because if
0:04:34you if you know Phyllis some kind of
0:04:35reasonable limit like that then how
0:04:36would you possibly a mass large-scale
0:04:39amounts of this stuff wouldn't be worth
0:04:40it i mean you definitely you know what
0:04:42if you just hop around town to every
0:04:43single walgreens that you would get you
0:04:47know picking up 24 at a time that dead
0:04:49but by the end of the day you'd end up
0:04:51with don't know you know hundred and
0:04:53forty capsules give a sense of how much
0:04:55meth you could make on a day like that i
0:04:56don't know i don't know i'm guessing not
0:04:58like a lot even if you have a bathtub
0:05:00and the right chemicals i bet you can't
0:05:02make a time math with that much cold
0:05:04medicine yeah I just don't get it i feel
0:05:05like it's over reaction and I've i never
0:05:08i personally have never and enjoyed
0:05:10sudafed and I i guess i feel that way
0:05:12about a lot of former college illogical
0:05:16you let go in the other direction
0:05:18yeah I like you like something that
0:05:20comes with fellow yeah exactly exactly
0:05:22what i don't need is we have cold like
0:05:24this i don't i don't need anything
0:05:26soon you don't you ever do the theraflu
0:05:29I've tried crap like that never does
0:05:32anything em they're flowing imodium and
0:05:34that's what keeps this country running
0:05:36hey I would get so much less
0:05:40accomplished in the aggregate without
0:05:42this two things i'm not saying take them
0:05:44at once unless you're gonna drink a lot
0:05:45of water but it's nice you know it's
0:05:47like Nietzsche says it's nice to know
0:05:48it's there
0:05:50the motive is is I was one of the best
0:05:53named best put a name they came up with
0:05:56the mode foot
0:05:58what would you have called it I don't
0:05:59know but somehow it connotes what it
0:06:01does without being gross and you know
0:06:03that that's you know that that's what
0:06:05the meeting was that somebody at the
0:06:07meeting they they said look we're
0:06:08nobody's getting up from this table
0:06:10until we come up with a name for this
0:06:11thing right we know it works reasonably
0:06:14happens to show networks it
0:06:17yeah the the pointy headed guy from the
0:06:20lab is like well it has to end with a
0:06:21modem it has to end with odium for legal
0:06:23reasons and yeah but what people get a
0:06:25sense that it works immediately
0:06:28wait a minute well let's go to the
0:06:30whiteboard immediate code and I got no
0:06:34impacted
0:06:36sure sure everything is a modem is like
0:06:40be really went beer in mobile you'll eat
0:06:42you pay for imodium a couple days later
0:06:44I don't want the real your show but just
0:06:46so you know if you take a lot of imodium
0:06:48like a therapeutic dose it doesn't mean
0:06:51it goes away
0:06:52you know what i mean it's it's like
0:06:54you're basically you're sweeping that
0:06:56detris under the rug and that rug will
0:06:58eventually get full probably kind of
0:07:00gross i'm also i also would like to find
0:07:03out what you really show but i would
0:07:04like to thank you also for first of all
0:07:05making me really want what's the name of
0:07:08that drink
0:07:09Henry box Brown oh my god that sounds so
0:07:12good and also I'm just very grateful
0:07:16that you have taught me about the
0:07:18existence of mr. Henry box Brown always
0:07:20another great story isn't it was an
0:07:22urban myth and I can't believe that's
0:07:23real
0:07:24there's a couple of mean I could go on
0:07:26and on and on about Hopsin under mat and
0:07:28someday like I want to come to
0:07:29Philadelphia just to go to someday I
0:07:31want to I you know you're on you're the
0:07:33guy who I know if I could get you in the
0:07:36right mood you would love it but you're
0:07:37the one friend of mine who I worry that
0:07:40that maybe you wouldn't is a fan is it
0:07:44like talking about your drink guy rolled
0:07:45up sleeves don't know you but but but
0:07:47you you you might worry that it is when
0:07:50you get there you might think all this
0:07:52is going to be one of those places but
0:07:53it's not i think if i get a couple box
0:07:55Browns under my belt i'm going to help
0:07:56right right one of the things is and and
0:07:59and you're going to use you hear this
0:08:01and i know you're going to worry that
0:08:02the place odds that place there's ok
0:08:04there's no signage there's no marking on
0:08:06the outside that says this is Hopsin
0:08:08line no Matt and in fact it's in a
0:08:10stretch of Chinatown here in
0:08:11Philadelphia is on the side of the
0:08:13street where it you really wouldn't
0:08:14think there's any open retail
0:08:15establishments on that street on the
0:08:17other side of the street there's a
0:08:18couple of nice chinese restaurants but
0:08:21on this side of the street it looks like
0:08:23everything's closed including the
0:08:25building where Hopsin yes and there's
0:08:27just a little love
0:08:28there's a like metal gate in front of
0:08:30the door and a little buzzer to ring the
0:08:32buzzer and maybe the guy comes out maybe
0:08:35nobody comes out and you just stand
0:08:37there in your weight and eventually
0:08:38somebody comes out and if there is any
0:08:42room available they will let you in and
0:08:44if there is no room available they will
0:08:45tell you
0:08:47then you'll have to wait because they
0:08:50don't want anybody it's a type of place
0:08:51and I appreciate this is some more like
0:08:53you're almost like a restaurant where
0:08:54you're not allowed to just stand around
0:08:56either have a seat at the bar or you
0:08:58have a table or you're not inside yet
0:09:01they have a little auntie room for you
0:09:04come in and and lead the owner you will
0:09:09explain the rules of the place to the
0:09:10antechamber the entire floor is paved
0:09:13with tails up pennies from corner to
0:09:18corner
0:09:19well except there's two or three of them
0:09:22their heads up if you look closely it's
0:09:25beautiful though it's really really have
0:09:27a they have rules and apparently they
0:09:29have is it accurate they have a dress
0:09:30code they do have a dress code
0:09:32just like the number one Google searches
0:09:34like four hops along the address
0:09:35definitely a dress code you cannot you
0:09:37can't get in there with shorts not
0:09:39really a problem at this time of year
0:09:40but no shorts no flip-flops gotta look
0:09:44like an adult that should that should
0:09:46just be a rule everywhere i think is
0:09:48sneakers might be a problem
0:09:50i I'm not sure so that might be the one
0:09:54thing that I in John just what I will I
0:09:57will make it work
0:09:58I'm gonna come here just for that I will
0:09:59make it work because this and it's the
0:10:01key to this is the than if i meet you
0:10:04want maybe you want to tell your
0:10:05audience with this is it sounds like a
0:10:07very deceptively simple drought that has
0:10:10a couple of important well I'll tell you
0:10:11the first time I had the first time I
0:10:13had it I've been intrigued by hop sing
0:10:14ever since I heard about it and it was
0:10:16supposed to open
0:10:17I don't know your and a half ago or
0:10:18something like that and i had my eye on
0:10:20it and kept checking a couple of the was
0:10:23like the only thing that made me check
0:10:24the Philadelphia food blogs and stuff
0:10:27like that and it never seen you know and
0:10:30I'd go past it and look and of course
0:10:32and even now it doesn't really look like
0:10:33it's open but there was never any spread
0:10:35sign that the thing was ever getting
0:10:37closer to opening and then about a year
0:10:42ago it was supposed to open right after
0:10:45like new years you know 11 months ago or
0:10:48whatever it was it was getting rumored
0:10:50that it was going to be was going to
0:10:51open soon and the word was that if you
0:10:54don't follow him on Twitter that you can
0:10:57maybe get invited in early so I just all
0:10:58I did was follow the guy and and I don't
0:11:02know week or two later I got like a I
0:11:05don't know there's a gnat reply or DM or
0:11:06something but it was you know you if you
0:11:08want to come in for a tasting we're
0:11:09having a tasting invitation-only tasting
0:11:12tuesday night you want to come in and I
0:11:14was like yeah of course although i had
0:11:17no you know what actually I could just
0:11:20go on and on with this guy that is so
0:11:22great
0:11:23actually what he did was that before i
0:11:25got invited to the tasting he invited me
0:11:27and Amy to come in one afternoon just to
0:11:29see the place that's right I said I
0:11:31didn't get a drink the first time I went
0:11:33in
0:11:33so Amy and I come over it's like a
0:11:36Tuesday afternoon and Jonas stone school
0:11:38and he lets us in were you hoping just
0:11:44curiosity when you went there all
0:11:46Genesis at school we kind of hoping to
0:11:48get a drink now I because I didn't think
0:11:51it was even legal because i don't think
0:11:52that it was you know I mean they're just
0:11:54like a lot of Licensing type situation
0:11:57not that you can't you know
0:11:58pour one out you know on this like to
0:12:00see had one before you write but we go
0:12:01in and we come in the main room and it
0:12:04really is it's just a beautiful it's
0:12:06just beautiful I can't do any justice to
0:12:08I mean there's a couple of photographs
0:12:09that are out there of the room but it
0:12:11really is just a beautiful place and he
0:12:12was showing us some of the stuff but the
0:12:14whole time
0:12:15there's a guy sitting at a table in the
0:12:17middle of the room a young guy maybe at
0:12:1922 23 and and then offhandedly we have
0:12:23no what we have no idea who he is he's
0:12:24just sitting there like sort of very
0:12:26straight back in about five minutes in
0:12:28li lets us know that this guy was in
0:12:30here he's in here interviewing for a job
0:12:32as a bartender and in the meantime
0:12:34Natalie isn't paying any attention to
0:12:36him and he apparently abandoned the
0:12:38interview halfway to give me any of this
0:12:40tour of the place and I think it was a
0:12:44total fight club situation where he was
0:12:46testing the guy you know like what are
0:12:49you going to do if i stop this job
0:12:50interview halfway through to give these
0:12:53other two people a tour of of the bar
0:12:55and none of us acknowledge you for 30
0:12:57minutes
0:12:58it's a kind of an employment hazing yeah
0:13:00i think so let's see let's see if you're
0:13:02gonna make it here Johnny right that's
0:13:04good
0:13:04but you know one of the things that hit
0:13:06me right and struck me right away on
0:13:07that even on that tour is that he really
0:13:09does have the most extraordinary
0:13:12selection of liquor I've ever seen in my
0:13:15entire life in terms of Bourbons and the
0:13:19stuff that i like it then and can judge
0:13:21that the quality of the collection I
0:13:23mean it's really is sort of a uh I don't
0:13:25know like a Stephen King type story
0:13:27where he's he's pulled some of this
0:13:29stuff from another universe you know
0:13:31like all sorts of stuff I've ever i've
0:13:33never even heard of over here for roses
0:13:34bourbon pretty good on ya ya i get
0:13:39confused because there's a there's a
0:13:40there's a bomb wine with roses and I no
0:13:42no there were differences you know for
0:13:44roses is pretty good and I think its
0:13:46general runnin around 30-35 dollars
0:13:48really good stuff and then there's
0:13:50somebody sent me a bottle of that once
0:13:51it was true yeah it's really good and
0:13:53then there's a four roses something
0:13:55something maybe I have four roses select
0:13:57or something like that which i have seen
0:13:58as well and I think it's maybe like ten
0:14:00dollars more
0:14:01he has four different for roses bourbon
0:14:05he's got four roses the four roses other
0:14:07thing that I've heard and he's got these
0:14:08other two that I like where do you get
0:14:11how do you even get that how do you how
0:14:12do you get that at right it just right
0:14:14down the line with all of you know all
0:14:16your favorite distillers he's just got a
0:14:18black maple hill which is really good
0:14:21stuff but then he's got black maple hill
0:14:23black label which died
0:14:25you can't get it I don't even know where
0:14:26did it's like he made it up it's like
0:14:28he's got this one bottle of black maple
0:14:29hill Black Label bourbon so I was super
0:14:32super impressed
0:14:33long story short a week or two later I
0:14:35get invited to a tasting at places and
0:14:36open yet and the way the tasting went is
0:14:40it was I don't know seven or eight of us
0:14:42and we don't get to pick anything he
0:14:45said here this is your first strength
0:14:46and we know and and you know you tell me
0:14:52what you think about what do you think
0:14:53it is and I can tell right away it was
0:14:55sort of like a screwdriver it was gonna
0:14:57definitely orange juice that I could
0:15:00only guess because of the lack of any
0:15:02other strong taste that it was vodka but
0:15:04there was like a frothy nasaan top i had
0:15:05no idea what he added and ends up nope
0:15:09it's just a screwdriver just a just
0:15:12fresh extracted is testing fresh
0:15:15extracted orange juice
0:15:17and an ultimate UL matv vodka but
0:15:24because it was fresh extracted juice it
0:15:26like had this frothiness to it that was
0:15:28amazing and then the next drink he gave
0:15:29me was the Henry box Brown which is
0:15:32fresh extracted red grape juice and
0:15:36eldorado 15 you're aged rum but here's
0:15:39the thing he gave me that drink and so
0:15:41what you know what do you do anything
0:15:42number one I loved it it was just
0:15:44unbelievable it's just unbelievable
0:15:46drink it's it's so refreshing but it's
0:15:49also clearly like a very very very busy
0:15:52drink but I had no idea what was in it
0:15:54I had no idea i couldn't tell it was
0:15:56grape juice I couldn't tell that it was
0:15:58wrong i was like guys that like I was
0:16:01like I I don't know
0:16:03and because I've never heard of that
0:16:05I've never in my life heard of anybody
0:16:06mixing grape juice and rum and in fact
0:16:08that's all there is in the drink you
0:16:11know you hear rum and you think stuff
0:16:13like you know you think tiki drinks hero
0:16:15pineapple i think i think it's like a
0:16:17headache like I can't drink a lot of rum
0:16:18well-run get I don't enjoy it like the
0:16:21way I enjoy purpose yeah well and rum
0:16:23I've done what I know I don't have I
0:16:25note that symbol full about room
0:16:27compared to want to know about bourbon
0:16:28but one of the problems with rum is that
0:16:30unlike a lot of other liquor around the
0:16:32world there's it's unregulated so like
0:16:34there's a lot you can't call something
0:16:35mean you can't just get together with
0:16:37some some stuff and make something call
0:16:39it bourbon burger champagne champagne
0:16:41exactly exactly like champagne it's very
0:16:43highly regulated you have to i think
0:16:45even it's so regulated you have to make
0:16:47bourbon and tennessee I don't think you
0:16:49can even call apartment didn't come out
0:16:50of Tennessee something i don't know but
0:16:54it's really ended on the percentage of
0:16:56of wheat vs corn it has to be in the
0:16:59certain you know very narrow range you
0:17:04know it's like--there's like truly like
0:17:06a legal legal definition of the
0:17:07difference between bourbon and rye
0:17:09etcetera etcetera but there's no such
0:17:11regulations around rum you can make
0:17:13anything that you know anything and you
0:17:14can make a map bathtub around exactly
0:17:16and you can just call it from which is
0:17:18why drum tends to you know exactly why
0:17:20people associated with headaches so it
0:17:22could be there's a and Plus on my ass
0:17:24but it could be the kind of impurities
0:17:27and that have been introduced going to a
0:17:29lack of right
0:17:30place exactly i didn't anyone in generic
0:17:32drugs and I think you know us suffers
0:17:33similarly from from you know that the
0:17:36low-end stuff is truly the double now
0:17:39that I'm a tequila guy so notice the
0:17:41difference it's a huge difference and it
0:17:43just gives the whole it gives the whole
0:17:44liquor a bad name though right because
0:17:47you know a really good tequila is is no
0:17:49reason to be concerned about like you
0:17:52know but I'm like bourbon the difference
0:17:54between a medium good tequila and a bad
0:17:57tequila is huge
0:17:59oh yeah I mean it's really it's crazy
0:18:01like I get so I forget what i get i
0:18:03usually drunk getting it but the now
0:18:05I'll get like I get the I like a white
0:18:07you know I can make this thing they call
0:18:08the paleo cocktail this is the i don't
0:18:10ever made you drink one of these no I
0:18:12don't let it set on dude it's tequila
0:18:14lime juice and soda stream I don't know
0:18:17I've had one of those
0:18:18yeah oh I don't know your client had a
0:18:20name for it that well you know that's
0:18:21what they call it but it's it's the
0:18:24perfect drink it's it's so refreshing
0:18:26and you can make one about seven seconds
0:18:27which is nice but but you know the thing
0:18:30is I i use the Blanco right now and
0:18:33minify if I'm forgot to go to the bodega
0:18:35and get the jose cuervo gold it's like
0:18:37oh this is like you know Jimmy Buffett
0:18:40you like urinated and I've steel pot or
0:18:42something i don't i just don't care what
0:18:44your ratio what it would do what do you
0:18:45want your measurements are publicly or
0:18:47privately or publicly just put a little
0:18:50bit little bit of the cue on yeah well
0:18:54it's not what I do is I put it I put it
0:18:56in until I think that's just a little
0:18:57bit too much and that's what I know it's
0:18:58good so you don't and then I don't
0:18:59measure measure it now
0:19:02eyeballing you know my poli you make
0:19:04sure your tattoos measurement drinks I
0:19:05even measure my martinis
0:19:07I'm gonna tell my wife that i'm going to
0:19:08go out after our program your program
0:19:10and I'm gonna go get fucking fun we have
0:19:12a pretty good not too annoying wine and
0:19:16liquor store that I that has stuff like
0:19:18a bet they got this El Dorado you can
0:19:19make this at home in my name is a fool's
0:19:21errand I what you have a grape juice
0:19:23about the grape juices the heart yeah
0:19:24because he's got this fancy extractor
0:19:26behind there it sits down but Marco has
0:19:29you don't really like that many as I ps3
0:19:32and rights to that he doesn't like if
0:19:33Marco has a juice extractor he's got the
0:19:35one that that Lee has a top Singh it's
0:19:37like you know it looks like it works
0:19:39pretty fast in stainless steel channel
0:19:41and i found i fell to the world
0:19:43difficult to clean it looks like it's
0:19:45easy to clean so that if me and you were
0:19:48both bartending there and I'm making one
0:19:50with the grape and you're waiting for me
0:19:52because you've got to make a one with
0:19:53that oranges next that it's easy to
0:19:56clean
0:19:57you know it just looks like the the best
0:19:59juice extractor so I don't know but
0:20:02apparently people have said that you can
0:20:04just muddle the grapes in in a mixing
0:20:07thing I mean it's probably not quite as
0:20:09good but i'm sure you get pretty close
0:20:11to you know pretty close
0:20:14I'm going to measure this one that
0:20:15sounds fantastic ah but I like i said
0:20:18this thing ever i I've had some good rum
0:20:21drinks over the years you know that I've
0:20:23enjoyed it you know like at the disney
0:20:25Holly what's at the Polynesian then
0:20:28we're I'm sure you put still there the
0:20:30pollination still there yeah you know
0:20:31you're gonna make a run drink and pour
0:20:33it into a carved out pineapple or
0:20:34something like that but that's what I
0:20:35associate with rum drinks you don't
0:20:37think great
0:20:37ya know it's just crazy it's the
0:20:39craziest combination and it's it's just
0:20:41the best string it's it is you know me i
0:20:44do i love the Bourbon i love the
0:20:45martinis I'm telling you though if I
0:20:47found out on a desert island that the
0:20:49only booze I could have the rest of my
0:20:50life for Henry box Brown I'd be I'd be
0:20:52fine i might try well i think that you
0:20:54know of the numerous things I like to
0:20:56think that we have in common I think our
0:20:57liquor preferences are pretty close
0:21:00well and also scott simpson he just
0:21:02drinks a lot more well it's not it's not
0:21:05a problem he's got another configures
0:21:06the other thing i love about the Henry
0:21:07box Brown when telling people trying to
0:21:09explain my love of Hopsin is that you
0:21:12get in there and you're Luke you're
0:21:13going to be worried i know i was worried
0:21:15I was worried my life that I was setting
0:21:16myself up just like yeah you're right to
0:21:18be worried because like I'm on board i'm
0:21:20still on 42 pics square ice cubes
0:21:22I they're not you know what I think the
0:21:25I do not joke that this jokey sighs I
0:21:27sku no no they're you know they're big
0:21:31cubes but they're not one big cube but
0:21:33your but there are definitely red flags
0:21:35it if you went into these places and i'm
0:21:37not going to talk about a million times
0:21:38but like these places you go to in san
0:21:40francisco in la that are like the
0:21:42Haunted Mansion you know you go in and
0:21:44it's real silly and it like a Tom Waits
0:21:46song everybody super serious nono
0:21:48sulfones load you know or like how you
0:21:51have to like a type of request on the
0:21:53typewriter before we let you know
0:21:55okay I get it you know but this this
0:21:58sounds like a terrific place and the
0:21:59thing is the proof is in the pudding if
0:22:01you can get in there and get a drink and
0:22:03enjoy it then it's a good place right so
0:22:05stop saying i think is very reasonable
0:22:07cellphone rules you are allowed to use
0:22:10your phone but you are not let it make a
0:22:12phone call
0:22:13this is for the enjoyment of your
0:22:14patrons surrounding you and you are not
0:22:16allowed to take photographs and this is
0:22:18for the privacy of all the people who
0:22:20are in there
0:22:21no I think that's a reasonable rule that
0:22:23if you're in there too if you're in
0:22:25there you can you can rest assured that
0:22:27your photograph is not going to be taken
0:22:28so you can well this is probably better
0:22:31safer for a different program but if you
0:22:33can just capture this i think at some
0:22:35point you and I should take our big
0:22:36podcast money and come up with a place
0:22:39that will have yes be awesome drinks but
0:22:41a will have the most exhaustive and
0:22:44inscrutable set of rules in a place has
0:22:47ever had and it's extremely difficult to
0:22:49find maybe it's got three doors and
0:22:50sometimes they're locked but I think I
0:22:52don't get all your texts today but i
0:22:54think we could make a lot of dell in
0:22:56either of our cities by having a place
0:22:58that's extremely different difficult to
0:22:59understand maybe any which you might be
0:23:01thrown out at any point for reasons it
0:23:02would be a lot like like a mouse had a
0:23:04bar want to be stuff happening that you
0:23:06just would be very very hard to
0:23:07understand maybe it's open in both
0:23:09cities but it's technically an
0:23:12alternative technically one
0:23:14establishment so it's never over on the
0:23:16same day we found a loophole that allows
0:23:18us to have one liquor license for the
0:23:20entire place and maybe it shuts down
0:23:22maybe you get maybe you know you get two
0:23:24hours there i get two hours here we
0:23:26threw everybody out and there's a
0:23:28different password when you come it's
0:23:29always going places
0:23:30the schedule is always different we
0:23:32think it's written man it just says I
0:23:35give you just show up on friday night at
0:23:37whatever Street in San Francisco it says
0:23:39we're sorry we're open to Philadelphia
0:23:40right maybe get to solve a Sudoku to get
0:23:43it
0:23:44I don't know but I mean you want to keep
0:23:46it you want to keep it i think these uh
0:23:48look at people go to these places they
0:23:50really enjoy that level of theatricality
0:23:53else can ask you one more question and
0:23:56then I have a feeling of the answer if
0:23:58you tried eagle rare
0:24:03I was going to say no doubt i think he
0:24:05probably won't remember i may not
0:24:07remember no it's ringing about the eagle
0:24:08rare career is one of those ones where
0:24:11there are definitely click that they
0:24:14have an eagle rare gonna get this right
0:24:16i think their standard one I want to say
0:24:18is is 10 years and its really really
0:24:21good and then they have another 1i want
0:24:24to get this right for posterity there's
0:24:26another one that is more costly and
0:24:28longer aged and it's it's just one of
0:24:32the best things I've ever had in my life
0:24:34I bad and I don't know where I'm looking
0:24:36at the bottle now and now that i see
0:24:38there's only one of those ones that you
0:24:39want to probably just enjoy you know
0:24:41with a little little bit of rocks
0:24:43I mean it's it or or not it's really
0:24:46good
0:24:46yeah i have not had do not have it in
0:24:48the house I've never purchase it but i
0:24:50know that i've had this somewhere can't
0:24:52remember where though one night we had
0:24:55to record you look nice today so I
0:24:56needed something to drink and I grabbed
0:24:58the first thing that we had at home had
0:25:00a bottle of which is the seagull rare
0:25:03that the fancy 117 I see this they have
0:25:05David end there's a standard and then
0:25:07they have a 17 when I would have seen
0:25:09that was a pretty hot
0:25:11see ya there's always another level
0:25:12right so you get deeper and deeper into
0:25:14that place over parts of the Caribbean
0:25:16or whatever you get fancier room but you
0:25:20know is a silly story but I I grabbed it
0:25:22and brought it to work I thought hey
0:25:23this is cool because it had been a gift
0:25:25that actually mean I had given to mad
0:25:27for like doing a little favor for her
0:25:28and she said only thing is i can get a
0:25:30bottle something I'm i crack it and
0:25:32brought it to work and started started
0:25:35making a variation on this is no this is
0:25:37blasphemy i know but i guess its bourbon
0:25:41right it's bourbon with some lime and I
0:25:43covered up with some muscle streams very
0:25:45similar to the to the tequila drink and
0:25:48I got about three quarters of the way
0:25:49into this and i happen to mention
0:25:52Simpson that I was drinking that he said
0:25:53he was drinking some to its own
0:25:55traditional that's fifty dollars but I
0:25:59was like I I was so embarrassed but
0:26:01luckily I was so intoxicated that it
0:26:03didn't stick with me so that I got
0:26:04another one to replace it for her
0:26:06because I'm a gentleman and then I drank
0:26:08that one too but if you can get that
0:26:10stuff you don't know if you wanna get a
0:26:11pop singer but if you don't have
0:26:12something something wrong with your lady
0:26:13after-hours it's it's it's real good now
0:26:16and
0:26:16no why I'm familiar with its from its
0:26:20from the Buffalo Trace people
0:26:22ok number would remember we didn't
0:26:24newzealand to the mouth of the trickiest
0:26:26oh my god is that we ran the amount of
0:26:28liquor you know zealand they don't did
0:26:31you know they don't know what the Wi-Fi
0:26:32there they get they get like Hayes modem
0:26:34style Wi-Fi for four hundred dollars a
0:26:36day right you want to buy you want to
0:26:39buy a coffee it takes 35 minutes and
0:26:41costs one of the healing money is it in
0:26:44they do not have a lot of bourbon as we
0:26:47discover well it did that was
0:26:48embarrassed this story is that we never
0:26:51there for web stock 221 guys they work
0:26:53with the bartender's you ever used it so
0:26:58love you so we're at i forget the name
0:27:00of what's the name of the hook the hip
0:27:02hippopotamus identical to the
0:27:03hippocampus yet papa bottomless bar at
0:27:06the at the hotel where everybody who was
0:27:08a speaker web stock was and we were all
0:27:10there on the first day we're all deeply
0:27:14deeply jet lag because she notes it's
0:27:18like the you know couldn't be more
0:27:19jetlite is a 15-hour flight for I mean
0:27:22you had you had Philadelphia San
0:27:24Francisco and probably flew together but
0:27:26you have Philadelphia San Francisco and
0:27:28San Francisco and New Zealand how long
0:27:29was that it had to have been 20 hours
0:27:31yeah but we had like a weird I God for
0:27:34for like five hour layover you get a
0:27:36hotel and we got a hotel room and fell
0:27:37asleep for three hours which was the
0:27:38smartest thing that was like the best
0:27:40hundred and fifty bucks I ever spent was
0:27:42the hundred and fifty bucks to get a
0:27:44hotel room for two hours and 43 hours
0:27:47and and sleep a little bit between the
0:27:49flights
0:27:49well worth it but anyway we get there
0:27:52and and we get up to the hotel bar and
0:27:55it's afternoon it was I don't like 4-430
0:27:57and everybody's sort of meeting each
0:27:59other and find out that the hotel bar
0:28:01and like every month they had a special
0:28:03cocktail and this month's special
0:28:05cocktail was the Bourbon old-fashioned
0:28:07and we were like what how where the
0:28:10we've seemed to book the right hotel and
0:28:13like three days later this bartender who
0:28:16is awesome he had this real theater
0:28:18member the way he Houston would when he
0:28:21would take the key is almost like a cast
0:28:22member yeah i mean he was he was very
0:28:24energetic and very fun and in like not
0:28:27teasing but you know any remember he was
0:28:29just he was really can get
0:28:30age then it was fun to give him
0:28:31something like seventeen dollars per
0:28:33train ride was really it was a fun he
0:28:34wasn't costly it's pretty clueless happy
0:28:37and you know it was like a free I you
0:28:39know it's one of those things where
0:28:39their dollars or whatever they call the
0:28:41things are so close to ours but not
0:28:43quite that it it threw me off where you
0:28:45yes like 1.1 birds to a box right it
0:28:48would be like you know an $18 drink and
0:28:50I think one way to second with the
0:28:52conversion does that mean it really jump
0:28:54into 20 some dollars or does that mean
0:28:56I'm anything but i do that with time and
0:28:59money i calculate the opposite with that
0:29:02I you know and they had options that you
0:29:04can make it with this if you want to
0:29:05there's like a whole page like the in
0:29:07the cocktail menu one whole page was
0:29:09specifically for the old-fashioned and
0:29:11they had all these other options you
0:29:12could do but Houston had a real nice way
0:29:14of taking a grapefruit peel that was
0:29:17what he was putting him and then he
0:29:18would he would twist it and light a
0:29:20match and sort of a you know explode the
0:29:24understand what that is in a citrus than
0:29:28that is not a Ryan but the the run you
0:29:31know this list the twist thing yeah and
0:29:32somehow if you do it at the referee time
0:29:34it right when you squeeze it and light a
0:29:36match you can make it a flame bursts out
0:29:38and it's sort of you know put like a
0:29:40smoky hint to the rind is he as he
0:29:43garnishes your drink and anyway with
0:29:45into his it was a welcome very sorry but
0:29:48we're all out of Buffalo Trace bourbon
0:29:50and then I was like I will outtake and
0:29:53it is like well in fact we're all out of
0:29:55bourbon
0:29:56haha head and he was so apologize but
0:30:00this is like a read the thing is that
0:30:02you have to understand that this is you
0:30:03know this is a real bar
0:30:05this isn't like something that's been
0:30:06slapped onto a marian wright hot wings
0:30:09this is like I'm not a nice bar with a
0:30:11nice restaurant at night if you check up
0:30:13on the fourth floor had a real nice view
0:30:15I think it wasn't the kind of place that
0:30:16goes oh we forgot to order bourbon
0:30:18something it was bourbon modest-sized it
0:30:20was a seismic event in the Bourbon world
0:30:23of this pit was bourbon month and i
0:30:25believe that what we ended up doing
0:30:28I think that was the urban but i think
0:30:30they still had jack daniels and so we
0:30:32ended up letting to make this old
0:30:34fashioned out of jack daniel's which is
0:30:35sort of
0:30:36you know at that poor form but and then
0:30:40he was very apologetic about it but it
0:30:43was amazing will try that eagle rare and
0:30:45I've already made a list you got me to
0:30:46do this stop here and I'm gonna I'm
0:30:48gonna get the the mayor are around from
0:30:52guy Jana called fifteen-year-old
0:30:54eldorado okay that sounds good and you
0:30:58want red grape something and red car
0:31:00anyway though it bottom line though is
0:31:01that here's the thing you think the
0:31:02place is really fussy and here's the
0:31:03thing Amy and I have this end there's a
0:31:05whole bunch of other places in town in
0:31:06philly that are like this i know i've
0:31:08been to the department and branch out in
0:31:10San Francisco and a lot of these
0:31:13cocktail page number one they dress the
0:31:15bartender's up old-timey stop they don't
0:31:16do that Hopsin everybody just wears a
0:31:18white shirt and black tie that's it
0:31:19there's no old-timey this to it you look
0:31:21it's more like a reservoir dogs look
0:31:23without the jacket every you know you
0:31:24look you know everybody looks the same
0:31:25you can tell who works here but you're
0:31:26not
0:31:27there's no faking old-timey nobody has a
0:31:28mustache but here's the thing all the
0:31:32drinks a lot of these craft cocktail
0:31:34places are sound really really good
0:31:36until you get to the last thing and then
0:31:38it's like why would you put that a drink
0:31:40and then it's I think you're supposed to
0:31:42be like the fact that you can get it
0:31:45down makes you better than other people
0:31:46because there's you know you know a
0:31:49little bit of a extracted dog turd in
0:31:52there exactly like we know where we're
0:31:54know where no Albert when a soul brother
0:31:56when it comes to drinks but but but just
0:31:58from my you know semi-pro drinking I I
0:32:03it does strike me that sometimes it is a
0:32:05lot like a place that wants to be a
0:32:07fancy food place now this works you're
0:32:10in french laundry here on your senses
0:32:12yeah I go there every time for real no
0:32:14oh well French Laundry found it is
0:32:18stable at the corn is that the Thomas
0:32:21Thomas Keller price that's was like the
0:32:22best restaurant in America two years and
0:32:24around it's it's it's an event to go
0:32:25arguably maybe possibly you could argue
0:32:29the best restaurant or remember when
0:32:30jason and meg likes saved other change
0:32:33for a year to go there i mean it's
0:32:35really but it's really amazing and you
0:32:36go in there and its first bought this
0:32:38isn't even want to talk about itunes but
0:32:40it was a it is completely event dining
0:32:43and they do something that almost nobody
0:32:44else does well which is cute
0:32:46they do cute really well not cute you
0:32:48know too clever by half
0:32:50they pull it off here let me bring you
0:32:52these this p naught and gel II said
0:32:56which and it's all just like silly puns
0:32:58on something that but you know but the
0:33:00peanuts are made out of you know artists
0:33:02a lamb or something anyway and but it
0:33:04works but it strikes me that a lot of
0:33:05these places trying to do that
0:33:06especially in a tourist area they can
0:33:08make a fancy if they would you call it
0:33:10desiccated doctor like you had something
0:33:11to it that is like the wrong ingredient
0:33:13all that sounds fancy we've taken
0:33:15something really mundane like you know
0:33:17like a lamb shank got one of the worst
0:33:20lamb shanks I ever had was at
0:33:21Disneyworld you get a lamb shank which
0:33:23is the most disappointing part of a lamb
0:33:25apart from maybe the horns and the song
0:33:26it's even like no like the butcher's
0:33:28trying to warn you with the word shank
0:33:29shank shank screams right let me know
0:33:33it's anyway I want the railing but you
0:33:35know I but i agree with you and if you
0:33:37in there are places this kind of soup
0:33:39nazi sorts of places where once you know
0:33:40how to go there it may become it becomes
0:33:45even like a point of pride like you can
0:33:46go there and you know that it's casual
0:33:48like you don't mean like now you're not
0:33:50going to be scrutinized as much because
0:33:53you're a regular right you know you know
0:33:55how it goes you know you're not gonna
0:33:56show up in teva's right well if the
0:33:59thing is is that to me and it goes with
0:34:01everything whether its food whether it's
0:34:03drinks whether it's picking a font or
0:34:04something like that sometimes the best
0:34:06thing to do is is not going to win you
0:34:08any accolades for being a genius or
0:34:10being clever but it's just the right
0:34:12thing to do and you should be humble
0:34:14enough to just do it sometimes so for
0:34:16example here's a drink where the right
0:34:17thing to do is just it's just grape
0:34:19juice and rum and it's shaken and it's
0:34:22cold and it's yeah good and that's it
0:34:24and there's no right this there's no you
0:34:27know an elderberry flower topped on it
0:34:29are you know what yeah it's like that
0:34:31that movie I didn't finish watching
0:34:33about the 10 dreams of sushi or whatever
0:34:36about the guy that makes the best sushi
0:34:38in the world or whatever and you know I
0:34:40thought it was it could have been on one
0:34:41in our documentary i think but it was
0:34:43still good still interesting because all
0:34:44this guy does douchey but what is the
0:34:46what he puts what he and his family and
0:34:48the people who work at this tense eat
0:34:50sushi bar put into it is astonishing
0:34:53I mean you know it but it is still he's
0:34:55I say he's buying the same tune that's
0:34:57not entirely accurate but everything he
0:34:59does is comes back to our old thing
0:35:01about you know
0:35:02taste you know in class and
0:35:04decision-making and what you don't do
0:35:06and he has chosen to do this thing for
0:35:08whatever 50 years and he does it better
0:35:11than anybody and people pay three
0:35:12hundred dollars for a 15 minute meal at
0:35:14this place it's like a 10-course sushi
0:35:16meal in 15 minutes but everybody who
0:35:18goes there are people going over and
0:35:19over people from Japan who know sushi
0:35:22food critics they're like this is no
0:35:24other me like this in the world but it's
0:35:25he's just making sushi I could go here
0:35:27and insult and my neighborhoods obsolete
0:35:29scott simpson had Tony it's all Chinese
0:35:31people in my neighborhood that work at
0:35:32the at this issue place but it's some
0:35:34places are good some places are better
0:35:36and then first reasons you can explain
0:35:38sometimes as with the mythical man month
0:35:40sometimes it's just 10 times better and
0:35:43it's definitely true width font choices
0:35:44you get the same helvetica noid to 15
0:35:47people and you're gonna have extremely
0:35:48different results right you know it's
0:35:50it's just weird there's just a kind of
0:35:52like the going to a butcher shop where
0:35:54they know how to cut it up and choose
0:35:56it's it's a completely different
0:35:57experience and yeah shell which is a
0:36:00good way to get into itunes exactly i
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0:40:17Wow itunes came out what you think of
0:40:22the new itunes 11 i like it i dont yeah
0:40:27you know yeah I know I I am i hesitating
0:40:28because I I unfortunately for you I'm a
0:40:31copious notes and prepping for the yeah
0:40:32I don't be a common stock I don't
0:40:34dislike it but it's I'm still you know
0:40:36it's been a day right we've had for a
0:40:38day and as as messed up in so many ways
0:40:41as itunes has been it's the devil you
0:40:43know and so now I'm other I'd like to
0:40:47hear you it's your show i like to hear
0:40:48you talk about it because you seem to
0:40:50like it a lot and i wanna as usual with
0:40:54new Apple things it seems like you are
0:40:56trying to run pretty stock settings and
0:40:59give the default state of state of that
0:41:01kind of a chance is that correct
0:41:03definitely in terms of like how things
0:41:05to display because i wasn't my first
0:41:06thing just was that I was very
0:41:08disorienting to me to open up I never
0:41:10look at things in either you know cover
0:41:14flow or album mode it's just not how I
0:41:17think about the stuff I've got it's nice
0:41:18to have but it was so hard for me to
0:41:21figure out what I had to change to to
0:41:23make it where I could find things but I
0:41:25got a couple thoughts on the boat tell
0:41:26me what you think I I you know I never
0:41:31used album view before either but i
0:41:33think i am now although i'd still think
0:41:35as the day is going on i do find know
0:41:38that that sometimes what I want
0:41:39and now i'm in the mood for the rolling
0:41:42stones i got a whole bunch of stones
0:41:44albums but it doesn't seem to know that
0:41:46like I got what I want then is to click
0:41:49go to artists and then there's a list
0:41:52artist click the Rolling Stone and then
0:41:54have the album view in there but it
0:41:56doesn't seem like you can get that you
0:41:58get like a like it's album but it's more
0:42:01like a listview by album rather than
0:42:03this new magic is just the album's click
0:42:06it and you get that nice expanded view
0:42:08underneath huh yeah so I'm not a hundred
0:42:13percent sure that the new stuff has been
0:42:15thoroughly baked conceptually yeah I
0:42:21mean there's one going to farm I listed
0:42:24the to start with this but yeah one of
0:42:26the things that I find little baffling
0:42:28in addition to how to get to what is
0:42:30called listview is he seemed to have
0:42:31different options
0:42:33what kind of one metal thing just a
0:42:35suggestion if you're listening to this
0:42:37and you can i would i would suggest
0:42:39opening up a copy of itunes 11 on your
0:42:42mac and maybe like turn down the slider
0:42:47on your volume really low if you want to
0:42:49play along with this because there's
0:42:50some things that are going to be easier
0:42:51to explain into you know what I mean
0:42:53like do this with me kind of stuff yeah
0:42:55it's i was like i said is a little
0:42:58bewildered when it came up in that album
0:43:00view because and that my first thought
0:43:02was okay
0:43:03usually I just click over here in that
0:43:05little tabbed thing where you would say
0:43:09do I want to see this by which of these
0:43:10four methods and always pick the
0:43:12simplest list way probably because I'm a
0:43:15real weirdo i want two things that our
0:43:16frequently sort by his date added which
0:43:19I had trouble have had have had trouble
0:43:22getting the music tab to remember is
0:43:24that I want my default view to almost
0:43:26always be date added you know it seems
0:43:28weird but that's you know i don't i
0:43:30don't think this in the same way that I
0:43:32think of all typical library where I
0:43:34needed to be organized by dewey decimal
0:43:38you know or library of congress or
0:43:42alphabetical just cuz that's not how I
0:43:43think about the music and so anyway that
0:43:46that is so my first thought was are of
0:43:48course panic as with you know like you
0:43:51cover one time going you ended up being
0:43:52absolutely right
0:43:53out when the changes golden scroll
0:43:55direction of course you know i mean they
0:43:57went in with a lion and made it the
0:43:58other way but now it totally i went back
0:44:01to the way it's supposed to be now and i
0:44:03love it makes sense it makes sense
0:44:05across devices so you know the typical
0:44:07thing its you're better off to go with
0:44:09apples way because that's the way Apple
0:44:11is going and so try their way and i
0:44:14liked it ok there's a lot of mystery
0:44:17meat navigation and buttons that I
0:44:19thought were kind of confusing but I
0:44:21think I'm getting it
0:44:23there's one thing I still am confused by
0:44:26you to get about this like how do you
0:44:27get to column view column browser it's
0:44:30it's not clear to me like it will be a
0:44:32couple days probably like when I'm
0:44:35eligible to be in column view i guess
0:44:38probably really simple they click songs
0:44:40you click songs but this is other stuff
0:44:44for like sometimes it seems like it
0:44:47changes the way that it presents tufte
0:44:49based on like if you've done a obviously
0:44:51i think the search thing is pretty great
0:44:52when it shows you like what you hear
0:44:54your stuff live in the search but there
0:44:56are some things like the movies view was
0:44:58kind of bewildering to me
0:45:00uh I don't see I have enough time to say
0:45:03all this correctly but there were
0:45:05several things about it that I initially
0:45:06found confusing that I'm now figuring
0:45:08out and i'm in a way I almost wish i
0:45:10could reset it to how it shipped just
0:45:13just to try it again but yeah there's
0:45:16some stuff i really like about it a lot
0:45:18of things like I find really bewildering
0:45:19the number one thing now this might have
0:45:23been in there before i'm almost positive
0:45:25it wasn't because I would try it once a
0:45:26week and it didn't work did it open
0:45:27right now
0:45:28yeah hit command to command three and
0:45:35four
0:45:35what's that doing i'm going to know what
0:45:37I'm doing here looking side rail over
0:45:38there you have sat on the side rail
0:45:40anymore house it jumps between music
0:45:43movies TV I guess I've wanted of which
0:45:46I've wanted forever i got that is easier
0:45:48than that and and that's may seem like a
0:45:50small thing but I so what I'm doing is
0:45:51when hit command 12 sort of like yeah it
0:45:54takes you to the section of your library
0:45:56for music movies TV shows which I
0:45:58actually found really useful mainly
0:45:59because I hop between music and podcasts
0:46:01a lot you know I movies and TV shows i
0:46:04tend to watch
0:46:06I guess for somewhat obvious reasons i
0:46:07tend to watch on an iOS device for Apple
0:46:09TV but for the idea of stuff I'm jumping
0:46:11around a lot
0:46:12I mean my here's my real quick check on
0:46:14this is that i will probably be using
0:46:16search library a lot more is my first
0:46:18thought because i think it it's pretty
0:46:21good and is forgetting to the music i
0:46:23want fast i have not found a faster way
0:46:25to get there then search library and it
0:46:28works better
0:46:29it does i I think don't you think it
0:46:31works a lot better than it used to
0:46:32absolutely it's got its got a couple
0:46:34weird it's got like 10 bug that drives
0:46:37me a little bit nuts but it's it's very
0:46:40fast and it gets me where I where I want
0:46:42to be I also like the way that in the
0:46:44search results that it includes album
0:46:48art wherever it can yes so was i I do I
0:46:55had it it just works better for me it's
0:46:57like the way that like I like the way
0:46:59that Safari uses five icons right there
0:47:02in the URL bar because it's it helps me
0:47:04know like on certain websites you know
0:47:07oh I know where I am you know absolutely
0:47:10and I mean I think as a branding thing
0:47:12like I see that that's the guy i know
0:47:15that album so here it is
0:47:17what's weird about that is it seems like
0:47:19a feature like that would mean a lot
0:47:21more to people of our generation because
0:47:23we're more accustomed to flipping
0:47:25through associating yes that's our cds
0:47:29and oh yeah this is houses of the holy
0:47:30yeah like or whatever i bet there aren't
0:47:32that many people aren't as many people
0:47:34today especially because people download
0:47:36stuff and it may not have correct album
0:47:38art I mean I'm constantly saying find
0:47:39the album art and can't find it now I me
0:47:41too i do have to buy it and actually
0:47:44have a tip for that but I mean my kids
0:47:46wear something that's a little weird
0:47:47I'm gonna try something here first of
0:47:49all I car you big on keyboard navigation
0:47:52when you're typing text key like the
0:47:55command shift in the option shift and
0:47:57all that ya threw text you do that a lot
0:47:59yeah okay so hit command F and type Tom
0:48:04Petty
0:48:04ok i'm just guessing stuff i think you
0:48:07have I don't have any time better
0:48:09ok for just forty forty three albums
0:48:13ok so go to go to select and the
0:48:14torpedoes you know i don't think i have
0:48:17damaged your penis I know we have
0:48:18whatever they're on their way over there
0:48:20on the CD rack and here's the here
0:48:22here's a real quick version of this that
0:48:23I don't this is so stupid but this is
0:48:25the kind of thing that drives me bananas
0:48:26go ahead and play any song starts
0:48:27playing any song any song anywhere
0:48:29alright we're going to do is we're gonna
0:48:33lie i turn my volume way down on my
0:48:34itunes alright alright you got you got
0:48:37song playing yeah okay and now go to
0:48:41church library and type in weiser ok ok
0:48:47and then act like you misspelled it and
0:48:49actually wanted to type something else
0:48:50now me I hit command shift arrow to
0:48:54select everything that I've just type
0:48:56there
0:48:56that works for me it selects that
0:49:00selects the type
0:49:01ok do without the shifts just go to the
0:49:03beginning I what did that do next is the
0:49:08IC yeah without the shift it
0:49:11ok that's it then what it just did for
0:49:13me was it started that song that's
0:49:15playing again yeah because it's totally
0:49:17natural behavior in itunes to hit
0:49:19command left and right arrow the next
0:49:23previous track now that's probably
0:49:24expected behavior for most people
0:49:26because who uses that kind of nonsense
0:49:27but it is a weird thing like talking
0:49:30like some petty itunes to me has always
0:49:32felt like an app that works ok like an
0:49:36iCloud like iCloud like a lot of things
0:49:39like address book
0:49:40they're pretty great things for a casual
0:49:42user to have a moderate amount of data
0:49:45in it's just that now especially with
0:49:48itunes match that I have so much stuff
0:49:50in here and I'm you know I find myself
0:49:53on the one hand like being appreciative
0:49:55of this looking prettier and stuff but
0:49:57right now it doesn't feel there's still
0:49:59stuff about that makes me feel like it's
0:50:01not that much faster for for power users
0:50:03and for people who want to become power
0:50:06users there's still a lot of opacity
0:50:07that i would like to see less opaque
0:50:10personally do you know what I mean
0:50:14oh yeah i think so are you on right now
0:50:17are you on a record I'm not be like pack
0:50:20up the plantation live
0:50:22ok and NIU that view where you get like
0:50:24the artist and you get like the kc like
0:50:26play shuffle arrow all those next to the
0:50:30name of the artist yes yes okay
0:50:33something else ever play okay got it
0:50:37what do you get nothing okay that's over
0:50:40the area on the right right
0:50:43nothing but i can click it I mean if i
0:50:45click it something you do most people do
0:50:47that do they claim be yeah I like you go
0:50:51to think that the the thing with the
0:50:53listview be like the LI view up in the
0:50:55which is as we all know now
0:50:57up next like mouse over that likewise
0:50:59they're not mouse over text for that he
0:51:01yeah I guess there could be some kind of
0:51:04you know like if you put you know like a
0:51:05webpage like if you pause for a little
0:51:07bit
0:51:08pause for a little hover something and
0:51:10now go now and there's no that's my
0:51:11complaint with that that that mysterious
0:51:13cloud icon next to the word with the
0:51:17top-left thing where you pick music
0:51:18movies TV shows what is that what is
0:51:20that for this is a horrible i think i
0:51:21think that means update my icloud yeah
0:51:24but it clicking it doesn't doing I match
0:51:25and hovering doesn't show anything yeah
0:51:27and right now mine is animated I've got
0:51:29these little diagonal i think that means
0:51:31it's updating and that means it's
0:51:32updating your collection yeah but I
0:51:34don't know but I so I understand that
0:51:36while it's updating why they would show
0:51:37me that but when it's not updating and
0:51:39it's just an empty cloud I really don't
0:51:41know why they show me that that there's
0:51:43a cloud there that I can't do anything
0:51:45with I can't click it I can't control
0:51:47click it well I need to be pedantic I'll
0:51:49say again just because it is standard in
0:51:51every other mac app and web page i mean
0:51:53do you ever go to preferences in it
0:51:56this isn't like in almost every mac app
0:51:58and I think there's a lot of people that
0:51:59don't know this so it's worth mentioning
0:52:01if you have somewhere where there are
0:52:02selections to be made like in
0:52:04preferences in almost every mac app and
0:52:06every good mac app if you have a choice
0:52:08between for radio buttons you can
0:52:10mouse-over a radiobutton whether it's
0:52:12selected or not and it will tell you
0:52:13what happens when you click that right
0:52:15which i think is kind of cool so to me
0:52:17if I mouse over the at that cloud like
0:52:19what what the hell does that mean if I
0:52:20mouse over that it should say for
0:52:22example in my case I the white cloud
0:52:24which a fluffy white cloud which I guess
0:52:26means everything's cold
0:52:27setec yeah but like no good last one on
0:52:30these i hope that go back to like the
0:52:32view of that plantation record right and
0:52:35click play the little arrow next to the
0:52:37artist name right
0:52:38got it oh ok then click play again
0:52:43all right Michael well shouldn't be
0:52:46pause yeah it doesn't pause yeah it's
0:52:49weird it doesn't turn to pause what
0:52:50happens instead is every time you hit
0:52:51play it just restarts the song which
0:52:54again maybe maybe that silly but in the
0:52:56way that this works i want this to be a
0:52:58UK they've chosen modality that's fine
0:53:00let's live with modality but to me
0:53:02modality means i should be able to do
0:53:03something like hit 14 music and if I tab
0:53:07one thing is I've got you know the
0:53:09universal access on so it goes to like
0:53:11frickin everything but I mean if you
0:53:13look at this if you never run this app
0:53:15before and you opened up I just feel
0:53:16like there's so much opacity to like
0:53:19what all this means like okay so I mouse
0:53:21over the name of the album and now i get
0:53:23an arrow next to it which gives me
0:53:26options but that it's almost like a play
0:53:28button don't talk about you if you go up
0:53:30to that little view dingus
0:53:32I mean that's cool i'll get used to that
0:53:34but i don't know i'm going to just bitch
0:53:37about there's a lot about it that i like
0:53:38better I wish these fonts for it's so
0:53:40big
0:53:41well here's one that I i find
0:53:43interesting and i'm not quite sure I
0:53:44guess it's one of those things where I
0:53:49always come back to the analogy about
0:53:50you know the disney analogy that the guy
0:53:52on pirates of the caribbean the one
0:53:54pirate who's got a foot on the dock one
0:53:57foot on a boat a handful of a treasure
0:53:59chest and like 13 hats on his head and
0:54:03he's metering because it's you know how
0:54:05the hell you gonna get on a boat i'm
0:54:06going to get off the shore onto a boat
0:54:08that's on the water doing that that's
0:54:11like the hardest thing in the world is
0:54:12going from the old thing that was
0:54:13slightly gotta David Blaine thing to the
0:54:15new thing I and I feel like that's where
0:54:18itunes is a lot of mac stuff is for
0:54:22Apple is that they know they've got the
0:54:24new thing which is a lot simpler and
0:54:26doesn't have the the craft in the
0:54:28baggage and all this historical stuff
0:54:30which is ios and they got the old thing
0:54:32which is the mac which is really really
0:54:35powerful and
0:54:36and let you do all sorts of stuff you
0:54:38still can't do on iOS so how do they get
0:54:40from there to here and it's really
0:54:41really hard so here's a my perfect
0:54:43example of that one foot on the shore
0:54:45one foot on a boat that's already on the
0:54:47water and isn't even tied up is go to a
0:54:52song in this expanded view thing and you
0:54:54hover over the song title and you get
0:54:56that little right-pointing chevron you
0:55:00know I mean it's like so like if i go by
0:55:02so if i go back to my Tom Petty record
0:55:03I'm search by artist see even this view
0:55:06ok so I'm by artist and I Montana
0:55:08torpedoes like so next to refugee i
0:55:10click on the what looks like a closing
0:55:13bracket
0:55:13yeah like it's like a greater than sign
0:55:15in a circle and when you do the same
0:55:17choices as what you got up in the thing
0:55:20that play next
0:55:20at the next that right so it's a
0:55:23contextual menu right now
0:55:25yes like it's like it's like control
0:55:26clicking what happened mmm yeah but what
0:55:29happens if you control click on the song
0:55:30you get an entirely different menu
0:55:33oh come on right ctrl click on it I did
0:55:36write can't believe so when you control
0:55:38click on it you get a a regular
0:55:40max-style contextual menu it's you know
0:55:43you know it's right out of the system
0:55:45frameworks it's it's a regular system
0:55:48standard wide menu with sin lucida
0:55:50grande the system font if you go to one
0:55:53with a submenu the submenu as soon as
0:55:55you hover over it it pops off to the
0:55:57side right now look at the new one the
0:55:59one in that little Chevron then when you
0:56:01think that questions that's cool
0:56:03well but but does it open when you hover
0:56:04over it when you so tell me again so I'm
0:56:08control kicking no not control clicking
0:56:10don't control sorry go back to the one
0:56:12aegis regular click on the Chevron I
0:56:14don't know what you wanted right now if
0:56:16you go down there is one like genius
0:56:18suggestions add to the ones that have
0:56:20another menu off to the side it doesn't
0:56:24open when you hover over you have to
0:56:25click on my god really
0:56:27click on it and then it all colleges in
0:56:30ok alright i guess i could get used to
0:56:33that but that's that's really weird
0:56:35well it is really weird I and very
0:56:38different from the mac but i do think
0:56:40that for most people I i think it's a
0:56:42reasonable argument to be made that this
0:56:44is the way subject because it looks like
0:56:47iOS it works like is this is the way
0:56:49submenus
0:56:49always should go for it and everybody
0:56:51knows all the usability studies show
0:56:53that that hierarchical menus you you
0:56:56lose easily ninety-five percent of all
0:56:58users as soon as you go to a menu and
0:57:01you go down and there's a little thing
0:57:02to the right and there's a nice menu
0:57:04piece is actually pretty well done and
0:57:06the plus sign next to it this is
0:57:07actually pretty cool that you have once
0:57:09you understand it right but it's
0:57:11absolutely it's not like a regular menu
0:57:13at all i can and you know i SAT there
0:57:17and hovered over it waiting for it to
0:57:18open a 10 seconds and then I thought
0:57:20well if i click well and then it slides
0:57:22into place and it's animated and its
0:57:24really nice and you can go back but it's
0:57:26totally unlike a standard mac contextual
0:57:30menu and the standard mac contextual
0:57:32menu is still there which offers an
0:57:34entirely different set of things you can
0:57:35do to the song and offers a lot more
0:57:37stuff although actually it doesn't
0:57:39they're not but they're not even
0:57:40separate though there's so you could do
0:57:42play next from both menus right yeah but
0:57:44you can't do you get album artwork from
0:57:46the new right everyone is very limited
0:57:48the other one the standard mac one has
0:57:51all sorts of complicated so all this the
0:57:53the nerdy stuff is still hidden in the
0:57:55control click one like create AAC
0:57:56version i recently think that's one of
0:58:01those you know I don't you probably have
0:58:03a name for this but one of the things
0:58:04like allowing you to do reverse
0:58:07scrolling you think this is one of those
0:58:08like a legacy thing for the nerds
0:58:10yes or just yeah because I don't think
0:58:14that they don't think they could get rid
0:58:15of that while they could get rid of it
0:58:17but i think that you know they obviously
0:58:19haven't haven't really gotten rid of
0:58:20anything in iTunes you can still do
0:58:22everything you can to be able to do you
0:58:23listen to you listen to that podcast
0:58:25right to what you don't listen to too
0:58:28many podcast right I don't
0:58:29well one of the things if you the
0:58:32feature I've always really liked it
0:58:33again I'm ready to be wrong about this
0:58:34but hit whatever command for orgo to
0:58:36podcast right this is another example of
0:58:38that more things I used to really love
0:58:40is like I would go like I this is
0:58:42something i subscribe to a while ago I
0:58:43don't unsubscribe but I also don't want
0:58:45to see that there's 35 episodes i
0:58:47haven't listened to write and used to be
0:58:49a control click to say mark always
0:58:51played or mark always unplayed right and
0:58:54now if you go to the title and you click
0:58:55on it you do you get the old you do get
0:58:57the old-school you know presumably the
0:59:00same you know I mean the old whatever
0:59:02you wanna call it the old school
0:59:03all your menu contextual menu but that's
0:59:06gone now
0:59:07yeah mark all is rather it's not there I
0:59:09don't see it
0:59:10yeah but you know whatever that seems
0:59:12weird but I actually use that a lot in
0:59:14RSS readers i used a lot in if I've been
0:59:17away for from a high-volume site for for
0:59:19a few days I'll just frequency mark
0:59:21always read if if it's not anything to
0:59:23current that is that that's an unusual
0:59:25decision it's a better decision I mean I
0:59:27was driven crazy went to a site the
0:59:30other day of this artist is comic artist
0:59:32i liken it has you know the usual kind
0:59:34of old-school navigation where it's like
0:59:36they eat where these two call it you
0:59:38know when you get the drop-down menus so
0:59:40you click and they say like okay show me
0:59:43gallery and the gallery has four five
0:59:45selections LOL cool comic covers you
0:59:47click comic covers and when you click on
0:59:50covers it gives you different publishers
0:59:55ok click Marvel they want to get to
0:59:57marvel it's different like Siri
0:59:57marvel it's different like Siri
1:00:00this is like yeah none of those things
1:00:02are become content until you get to the
1:00:05very very end as it happened on this
1:00:07side and iOS even when you get to the
1:00:08end it didn't do anything i'm guessing
1:00:10it was kind of like wonky javascript or
1:00:12something but not that that's always
1:00:14been a totally flawed way to deal with
1:00:15that and I think you know when it can
1:00:18win the contextual menus come along on a
1:00:21OS 10 or on on now isn't it was sometime
1:00:24in America is not here right right but I
1:00:27mean it's you know not going maybe
1:00:29sometime I bet there was something
1:00:31somewhat grudging about that decision
1:00:32because yeah windows had already done
1:00:35right now that was a huge windows is
1:00:37right clicking right was something that
1:00:40people setting aside the one button to
1:00:42button thing whatever but not do people
1:00:44used to do that so often in Windows I
1:00:47think it's much more of the pattern of
1:00:48using windows at least in those days so
1:00:50definitely yeah so even then that might
1:00:53have felt like a satisfying satisficing
1:00:55but you know a not totally embrace
1:00:58decision to do that but you know it's
1:01:01it's never been fun like right now my
1:01:02services menu and yes i know there are
1:01:05things to clean this up but only two
1:01:06things like bread temperatures markdown
1:01:07stuff and a lot of other things I've
1:01:09added my on my services menus is crazy
1:01:13now or I should say my contextual menu
1:01:16in the finder and given that they can
1:01:19the width of the contextual menu is
1:01:20governed by the name of the longest item
1:01:23I its giant and it's got like 30 things
1:01:27in it seems like a menu looks like a
1:01:28window it it kind of does it looks like
1:01:31little men you like in a restaurant
1:01:32right but you know I think the one that
1:01:34I use just for this is actually I try to
1:01:36be helpful i think it's called services
1:01:38manager is the one that I use
1:01:39I never heard of services manager lets
1:01:41you go in and change without having to
1:01:43go to that awful thing in on the Apple
1:01:45yeah open up services manager you can go
1:01:47in and turn on turn services off very
1:01:51easily you can so if you leave it on you
1:01:55can set whether it appears in context
1:01:56menus and you can set the key commands
1:01:58all from here which you know the thing
1:02:02hit the truth is though any power user
1:02:03who's going to keyboard to do this it's
1:02:06I don't know about you but the fastest
1:02:08Mac I've ever been on i still get a
1:02:09beach ball waiting for services to to
1:02:11update yeah
1:02:12ok and then and then and then another
1:02:14nice thing here is that then you can say
1:02:16is a number of allowed items in context
1:02:19menu and you could say you want two
1:02:21three four five six seven ten unlimited
1:02:23so you can choose how many things so
1:02:24personally I think contextual menus are
1:02:26way under used by most people especially
1:02:27in the finder or for that matter and you
1:02:30know bbedit or text me there's so much
1:02:32stuff that you can do with those
1:02:33services your services fan right you
1:02:36pointed you point me to that that the
1:02:38services maker thing a few years ago we
1:02:41took a shell script and make it into a
1:02:42service service was called service
1:02:45forget what it's called
1:02:47I know it's by the guy named just
1:02:49breasts this service service that's
1:02:51right video and that's sort of semi
1:02:53obviated by automator as of like lion
1:02:57roar lion let your mouth
1:02:58yeah theoretically although i think this
1:03:01services ones are a little bit more
1:03:03first for somebody who knows anything
1:03:04about eunuchs which is not me the idea
1:03:06of input-output a filter is is pretty
1:03:08transparent right but anyway i'm getting
1:03:11off the topic but i don't know i mean i
1:03:14think i think i'm going to get get used
1:03:15to this but there's give me trouble with
1:03:20command LOL i feel good sometimes
1:03:21getting trouble with command l working
1:03:24or not working and I rely on that very
1:03:25heavily in what app sorry in itunes hit
1:03:29command l takes you currently playing
1:03:30song i didn't know that hole dude that's
1:03:33the last year
1:03:35that's nice so you probably have another
1:03:37problem with that
1:03:38yeah I'll take one is driving me nuts do
1:03:41you ever open playlist in a new window
1:03:43like i'll say i want to make a new
1:03:44playlist for a road trip i'll create the
1:03:46new playlist and then created a new open
1:03:48in new window ever do that in itunes i
1:03:50have previously we'll go double click
1:03:52one of them now walk right doesn't go
1:03:56into new window and you don't get to
1:03:58solve officially a one window a pro yeah
1:04:00i like but here's a here's an
1:04:02interesting decision that they made
1:04:03which i think is a is new and am i i'm
1:04:07not sure i don't want to pass judgment
1:04:09either way on ax I'm not sure is the way
1:04:11that in the interest of showing fewer
1:04:15things on screen at once they don't show
1:04:17the sidebar unless you want to turn on
1:04:19the old fashioned mode but as soon as
1:04:21you start dragging a song your playlists
1:04:24open up from the south
1:04:25oh I'm gonna have to try this so just
1:04:29grab any song and start dragging it so I
1:04:33get stuck on the top side here signing
1:04:34up um I should multitask so I'm taking
1:04:37on taking a song from anywhere and I
1:04:39start dragging correct right and yeah
1:04:43we're looking to do on the right side
1:04:45doesn't a list of devices any playlist
1:04:47comes into it that isn't always there
1:04:49and only when you're dragging ass time
1:04:51you start dragging and you get a little
1:04:53list it slides in from the right of
1:04:55devices and playlist so you could add a
1:04:57song to a device or you can add a song
1:04:58to a playlist
1:05:00I'm guess I'm in an album I mean music
1:05:03i'm looking at AC Newman's get guilty
1:05:05taking the chevron just no just drag the
1:05:08song drag-and-drop ok to write it like
1:05:11you're moving in somewhere and then off
1:05:13the side of the right side you don't get
1:05:14a you don't get a now maybe I'm in the
1:05:17wrong view them trapped by songs that
1:05:20works i'm inseong I was an album should
1:05:22be anywhere soon as you start dragging
1:05:23you get a a little thing from the side
1:05:26not kidding i wonder if i have something
1:05:30turned off
1:05:31yeah I don't know how that's gonna take
1:05:34that sounds that sounds like a great
1:05:35idea so immediately gets that hey
1:05:37they're grabbing this because they want
1:05:38to put this someplace
1:05:39let me give them the option is what
1:05:41happened to it's very untraditional
1:05:42though that the destination is invisible
1:05:46until you start dragging and as soon as
1:05:49you're done dragging it goes away
1:05:50because you have to know you do anyway
1:05:53you would you have to know it before you
1:05:55would try it
1:05:56that's kind of what I was trying to get
1:05:58out with I wasn't trying to be a dick
1:05:59about it that's kinda was trying to get
1:06:00out with the opacity about those icons
1:06:02in my experience and my very small bit
1:06:04of user experience stuff people are not
1:06:07too excited about cooking something
1:06:10unless they know what's going to happen
1:06:11that goes back to the days of wondering
1:06:13if you're going to reformat your hard
1:06:14drive that sounds silly to nerds but
1:06:16there are a lot of people who will not
1:06:17just click I mean look at how many
1:06:19things in this interface have an arrow
1:06:21to be honest look that's one way to look
1:06:24at it if you go back to album view and
1:06:25go look at Tom Petty record i mean there
1:06:27are so many arrows there's an arrow
1:06:29right for iCloud there's a chevron just
1:06:32wasn't the right word like a black
1:06:33chevron whatever chevron but like
1:06:35there's a bracket to show next room for
1:06:37contextual menu
1:06:39this contextual menu one for each song
1:06:41when you mouse over there is a
1:06:42contextual menu one for the app there's
1:06:44to intermingle and arrows meaning
1:06:47shuffle there is a narrow a you know a
1:06:50sideways triangle foreplay and then much
1:06:53of those things are repeated in the
1:06:56thing at the top there's anything of
1:06:58course is the big arrows for play rewind
1:06:59etc and in almost every piece of
1:07:02interface and this is some kind of a
1:07:03narrow and and that to me I would you
1:07:07know even I've used this stuff for a
1:07:09while and i still look at that and go
1:07:10what I know shuffle means you know what
1:07:13I mean
1:07:13hey do you have the sidebar showing yes
1:07:16alright turn off the huts hide the
1:07:18sidebar right sidebar now now drag us on
1:07:20ok that must be a let's see and now i
1:07:23want to go to I clicking clicking oh
1:07:27that's neat right so it doesn't happen
1:07:32if you have the sidebar showing because
1:07:34you don't need it but right but if you
1:07:36hide the sidebar which is the default
1:07:38view when you drag a song this right
1:07:42side sidebar of destinations where you
1:07:45might want to drop a song devices and
1:07:47playlists appears adding it to a device
1:07:51that is really interesting i'm on my
1:07:52non-primary itunes so I do my secret
1:07:55through my air and so I'm on my ancient
1:07:58mac pro right now and if I think it's
1:08:00grab the device probably won't work but
1:08:02this is pretty sweet right well anyway
1:08:04that you can pick a movie or show to
1:08:06load up on your iPad before you head off
1:08:08to visit doing that locally or is it
1:08:09saying go be wise and get this from the
1:08:12cloud I i think it's if it's by USB it
1:08:15will copy by USB and if you have the
1:08:18device setup to sink over Wi-Fi it'll
1:08:20push it over white I've got it i'm gonna
1:08:22just do it by iCloud though it will do
1:08:23it over your local wife
1:08:25what do I mean like two things two great
1:08:26things that have been there forever that
1:08:28are still worth telling people about our
1:08:29the ad to so like or see now this is
1:08:34crazy
1:08:35so if you use the new non contextual
1:08:37clicking chevron next to a song you get
1:08:39add to click add to and you can add it
1:08:42to a playlist right that's I think
1:08:43that's a great feature but no but now do
1:08:46the contextual menu version of that and
1:08:48get something even cooler which is shown
1:08:50playlist ever use that
1:08:52now i use that is that all the time so
1:08:54let's say if you're like me and you got
1:08:55a million playlist right do this you
1:08:57might want to say oh I want this in that
1:08:59party 1999 shuffle show me in there are
1:09:02right in that context or something I
1:09:05used to love in back on the creative for
1:09:07that is a good future
1:09:08yeah it's something you back on the I
1:09:10think I'm the creative or maybe on the
1:09:11diamond rio player was in a shop in the
1:09:13middle of a shuffle there was a dingus
1:09:15for saying continue playing along lines
1:09:18of net play this by clicking whatever
1:09:22it's called it functionally started
1:09:24playing it as the track it was on the
1:09:25record
1:09:26so if you if your rocks off came up you
1:09:29could say continue playing album and
1:09:31then it would play the rest of Exile on
1:09:33Main Street
1:09:34ah that's a great feature it's exactly
1:09:36certain songs were when i hear them then
1:09:39I didn't immediately want to hear that
1:09:40usually happens to me with Zeppelin
1:09:41songs as soon as I hear one I need to
1:09:43hear the one that I know it's checking
1:09:46it was like what I do that case for what
1:09:49it's worth it's a command l to show me
1:09:50the playing track and then i'll say then
1:09:52I'll do that right click to show in that
1:09:55album so i can show you just in the
1:09:56straight-up legitimate album or you can
1:09:59hit the course the revealing arrow to
1:10:00take you to that album one more thing
1:10:03that's been happening forever 19 that
1:10:05drives me nuts you know what you can
1:10:06going to flick i don't know if i did
1:10:08this with onyx or whether I did it
1:10:11legitimately but I don't you know you
1:10:12can change the arrow to mean
1:10:14itunes store or yeah so I had it set to
1:10:17show to me the collection was the
1:10:19weirdest thing like yesterday I was like
1:10:20I want to go the danger mouse record i
1:10:22click the arrow and it took me to
1:10:23everything by danger mouse even though i
1:10:25click on the album right i was kinda
1:10:26weird but you know i mean this is this
1:10:29is the thing I mean yeah it was sort of
1:10:31like it there was like a hidden
1:10:32preference that was more or less like
1:10:34stop trying to upsell me what ya used to
1:10:36be i guess a plist thing that aren't
1:10:37like on one of the Sonics or you know
1:10:39yeah those apps what do you use for
1:10:41stuff like that I i usually honestly I
1:10:45used like the terminal and i just type
1:10:47the default right come out interesting
1:10:50ok but you don't go in and do stuff like
1:10:52hi desktop or not anymore now change the
1:10:56font size in my finder now sidebar know
1:10:59about catcher pussy now I was getting a
1:11:02mother giving out for you get for you've
1:11:05done
1:11:05but you know it's interesting I mean
1:11:07that the the big trend everybody out you
1:11:09and all your buddies always talk about
1:11:11that is actually turning out to be
1:11:12pretty interesting is V nokia is this
1:11:17move toward being more iOS like which i
1:11:19think is entirely sensible you know in a
1:11:21lot of ways I think for file management
1:11:23it's it's an almost utter failure but
1:11:26for stuff like this I get why they do it
1:11:30it's a shame that itunes on my ipad is
1:11:33one of the worst apps i have ever used
1:11:34to my aunt but if they can improve the
1:11:38desktop version by taking some of those
1:11:40patterns i'm all for it
1:11:42well I think you want once you get the
1:11:44iCloud thing it's really clear i'm
1:11:46looking at you know what am I looking at
1:11:48obvious definitive collection because
1:11:50that's what I'm looking at all the gold
1:11:51greatest shut up
1:11:52honestly too i got that too with new
1:11:54album art boom yeah no yeah let's see
1:11:58here because I'm dancing queen going
1:11:59yeah it's great it's such a good record
1:12:02oh man i was into that every day I got
1:12:04yeah we've got gold and the definitive
1:12:05collection used to be the only thing
1:12:07only help her daughter go to sleep play
1:12:09count 1992
1:12:11oh no wait no that's the year the album
1:12:14came out i did a screen grab bars the
1:12:16other day and it was like Everlong this
1:12:18look like one of my eyes and Everlong
1:12:20idle no we don't gotta have a couple of
1:12:25Springsteen songs at the top
1:12:27yeah you know I reset a while back to
1:12:28you with Amy did Thunder it was way high
1:12:31but it but you know having a kid screws
1:12:33it up because now we've got i love they
1:12:36might be giants but yeah like I don't
1:12:39listen to favor island quite as much as
1:12:40my daughter
1:12:41ours is still it's permanent until one
1:12:44of us like are both of us I guess lose
1:12:45our eventually lose our itunes history
1:12:48but ours is yellow submarine because oh
1:12:50that's right that we should go to that
1:12:51was our go-to that it when Jonas was a
1:12:54you know the cry baby infant worse i was
1:12:58like that was like the red line that was
1:13:00the red button underneath the protective
1:13:02glass cover the last resort if this
1:13:05doesn't work we don't know what we may
1:13:07have to drop everything and he sir right
1:13:09we yeah we both had to turn the key
1:13:12we both had to agree let's go to yellow
1:13:14submarine and
1:13:15never let us down I remember we talked
1:13:18about on the other talk summer I was
1:13:19walking around New Zealand and you were
1:13:21talking about that I remember that for
1:13:23us not you know i got my kid into Queen
1:13:24tomato that's good but the thing with it
1:13:26here's the thing about the Yellow
1:13:27Submarine thing that made the playground
1:13:29so high is that you once you went to
1:13:30yellow submarine you had to replay they
1:13:33had to keep going you had to keep going
1:13:34till he went to sleep he stopped crying
1:13:36he would smile he would get a check for
1:13:38you to follow through how to keep going
1:13:40just yellow submarine over and over and
1:13:43over but i gotta play count on that song
1:13:45is just but it's right now I we had the
1:13:48way to similar for a long time for us it
1:13:50was drier sound and it was like I'd like
1:13:5314,000 plays or whatever because we were
1:13:55just we had we had 1i got a little tiny
1:13:581i thought maybe it had a hair dryer
1:14:00well-known 40 it was a 45-minute minute
1:14:04track of a hairdryer here's what you do
1:14:07when you're when you're real stupid and
1:14:08had a little too much money at the time
1:14:10I i had one ipod mini there was nothing
1:14:12but the dryer sound everywhere we went I
1:14:16could plug it in and hit play and they
1:14:17would just be for those of you who don't
1:14:21know that the the kids like there are
1:14:25certain like white boys and white noise
1:14:27some of them don't like running water
1:14:29right but you don't your kid might have
1:14:31a hot you know it and one Jonas's was a
1:14:33hairdryer and there you can go and you
1:14:35can quick Google these things and you
1:14:36can just download like the sound of a
1:14:38hairdryer I remember it used to always
1:14:40make me think you're obviously
1:14:42completely irrationally that playing the
1:14:45hairdryer sound was wasting so much
1:14:47energy haha and I don't talk about skill
1:14:52more its I and I would not enter a every
1:14:54time we went to it i would think god
1:14:56it's alright it shut him up this is
1:14:58great
1:14:58god I can't believe how much money we're
1:14:59going to spend on and then I think oh no
1:15:01of course not but it every single time
1:15:04it would make me think we were we were
1:15:05blowing a bunch of money but screw it
1:15:07it's worth it's worth it can't believe
1:15:10you had hop oh that's something that
1:15:12we're at so creepy you know here's the
1:15:14thing here's the thing that I see is the
1:15:16big-scale big picture trend that iOS is
1:15:20leading is is it is about contextual
1:15:23pneus and it's about visual
1:15:27obvious and so the reason that
1:15:33contextual menus worked in Windows is
1:15:36that it does make a lot of sense where
1:15:38what you swim in a certain way where
1:15:40you're saying look I've got this thing
1:15:41here it is a file or it's a short yeah i
1:15:45mean there are so many things I could do
1:15:47to a file right right and so I mean it
1:15:50from the desktop session right and
1:15:52before contextual menus it would be like
1:15:55well you had this one gesture that Apple
1:15:59popularized drag-and-drop but you only
1:16:01got one thing out of that it was you
1:16:03know typically you drag it over and it
1:16:05would open you know you would drag this
1:16:07thing to a file or to an application and
1:16:10it would open and I know that there are
1:16:13certain gestures like a mac i don't i
1:16:15can't speak in windows and there were
1:16:16ways to modify drag-and-drop with
1:16:19modifier keys where you drag and drop
1:16:21something with the option key down in
1:16:23the finder you're making a copy and
1:16:25expect a copy and alias so if you have
1:16:28the service you can do have symbolic
1:16:29link number i mean but that's way out in
1:16:31the weeds and very few users are ever
1:16:33going to know about any of those
1:16:34shortcuts because they're not visual you
1:16:37have to know about them
1:16:38absolutely there's you know there's a
1:16:39little visual cue when you hold the
1:16:41option key down drag something where it
1:16:43adds a plus sign to sort of at least
1:16:45give you a little bit of a visual hint
1:16:47that maybe you know that you're making a
1:16:48copy or adding but you know I mean show
1:16:51that to most people and they're not
1:16:52going to have any idea what the plus
1:16:53sign means and they're never going to
1:16:55guess that holding the option anything
1:16:57that involves modifier keeses is not
1:16:59going to it just goes right over even
1:17:03smart people said because it's not you
1:17:04have to know it before you ever use and
1:17:06you have to remember it and that's
1:17:07that's a good and you know it's let me
1:17:10think about you go to somebody's house
1:17:11and you want like you're house-sitting
1:17:13you want to find the scissors
1:17:14yeah like there's nothing that would
1:17:16tell you where the scissors are until
1:17:17you open a bunch of drawers and try
1:17:18stuff
1:17:19yeah exactly that's extensive really
1:17:21good analogy
1:17:22here's another one and in itunes 11 the
1:17:26new mini player thing is a new button up
1:17:28in the up in the title bar that toggles
1:17:31between these two states for all
1:17:33previous ten versions what they did is
1:17:35override the green button the
1:17:37and instead of zooming the window it
1:17:40would toggle between the two states but
1:17:42most people don't know is if you option
1:17:44click the plus button it would give you
1:17:48the traditional green button behavior
1:17:49and I really i never knew that
1:17:52yes you do my tweeted that yesterday and
1:17:54I got it like a gazillion like holy cow
1:17:56i didn't know that never-ending million
1:17:58years to do that and why did you not
1:18:00teach me the head before the version of
1:18:02itunes came out that that it doesn't
1:18:05matter anymore it's just one of those
1:18:08things if you're a loser you know if you
1:18:09think Mackey enough you think like well
1:18:12if they / read that wouldn't they maybe
1:18:14give you an escape hatch with a modifier
1:18:15key but modifier keys to did like you
1:18:18said you haven't you just said you
1:18:19didn't even know that existed
1:18:20well modifier Keys not a good solution
1:18:23to the problem so windows contextual
1:18:25menus solved that problem in a certain
1:18:27sense of give me a way to do
1:18:30here's the thing i have it in front of
1:18:33me let me give me a whole bunch of list
1:18:35of things I can do to this thing right
1:18:37now mom but in another sense it wasn't
1:18:42still wasn't visual though because you
1:18:43had to know the difference between right
1:18:45clicking and left clicking which I you
1:18:48know it's like one of the most like
1:18:49divisive arguments in the history of
1:18:53user interface design
1:18:56yeah what is one is let's do something
1:18:58and the other one is let's find out what
1:18:59we could do right and on my argument
1:19:02against it then that Apple was right
1:19:04with the one button mouse for all these
1:19:06years is that whenever i worked in an
1:19:07office environment you can go and you
1:19:09look at everybody's mouse if they had
1:19:11pcs and the left mouse button was filthy
1:19:14and the right mouse button or actually
1:19:17it was the other way around where the
1:19:18left one was well Leslie when that might
1:19:20be dirty but it had a finger-sized shiny
1:19:23yeah like shiny and the right one was
1:19:25just too just covered with dust and that
1:19:27people learned that that's the one you
1:19:29don't click that kind of shows you how
1:19:32Apple really did win right that normal
1:19:35people still never use that those things
1:19:37they you know it was opposed it is a
1:19:39great power user future and that's why
1:19:41Apple eventually and I do think you're
1:19:43right that that when Apple added
1:19:45contextual menus with the control click
1:19:47that it was sort of begrudging
1:19:49but it's definitely a power user feature
1:19:51because it's not visual and that's why
1:19:54you see things i think in itunes now
1:19:55with this thing where they've got this
1:19:57secondary in a way it is totally
1:20:00ungraceful an inelegant that there are
1:20:03two entirely different contextual menus
1:20:05for let's say a song or album there's
1:20:08the old one that you get with ctrl click
1:20:10or right click whatever you want to call
1:20:11it and this new one where you just
1:20:13regular click on the Chevron button and
1:20:17that it's too you know entirely
1:20:19different list of things and one's a lot
1:20:22simpler ones a little bit more fiddly
1:20:24very elegant but it is to me though the
1:20:27new way where it's visual and you can at
1:20:29least see how to make come up
1:20:34well I i totally agree but I mean I had
1:20:36to be even even kinder I think and I
1:20:39think fairly so if you think about iOS
1:20:42one of the one of the things that Apple
1:20:45i think has gotten so right with iOS
1:20:48that others i don't know i can't say if
1:20:50others have I haven't spent much time on
1:20:52anything but an ipad or iphone but you
1:20:55know is that what i understand that
1:20:56there are a limited number of things
1:20:58that I can do here and and that there
1:21:01should be a limited number of things
1:21:02that i present the people here otherwise
1:21:04it's going to be completely overwhelming
1:21:06and so I don't know that this close
1:21:09chevron or whatever you call it go to
1:21:10the next level of stuff
1:21:12the only way you can really do stuff on
1:21:15some ass a little but you can either i'm
1:21:17not never can I can't tell you what the
1:21:18name of the views are but you could
1:21:20certainly have a kind of view where you
1:21:23get a list of stuff and then you can
1:21:25select things and do things to those but
1:21:27more often than not you're clicking that
1:21:28right disclosed button to to drill down
1:21:30into where you can do different sorts of
1:21:33things
1:21:34well now why is it so special and
1:21:35different because there's not really
1:21:37menus in the traditional sense on on
1:21:40your on your iOS device you can you
1:21:43don't have a like in this case
1:21:44highlighted view control store and
1:21:47window that might present be presented
1:21:48in some kind of tab way but that's
1:21:50usually like the last thing I would want
1:21:52to do and there are certainly far edge
1:21:55cases I refuse goodreader good reader so
1:21:57nerdy but so fine you can go in and look
1:21:59at your files on dropbox and you can go
1:22:02to the file man
1:22:02comments section click the file and say
1:22:04wow there's like 40 options it's so like
1:22:07you know like an engineer made it right
1:22:08you can open in you can zip this you can
1:22:11move this you can do all that stuff it
1:22:13gets to the point that's saying like
1:22:14only a power user would want that
1:22:15because most people don't know of or
1:22:17need most of those things and for better
1:22:20for worse the iOS is accommodating those
1:22:23limits limitations in the design
1:22:26principles so I mean I the the thing is
1:22:29I guess what I'm trying to get at is
1:22:30that in seeing these changes reflected
1:22:32in these design decisions reflected back
1:22:34into OS 10
1:22:35I wonder for a new person you just come
1:22:37in here and go I understand their stuff
1:22:40and the stuff is in different areas and
1:22:43once I get there and I get to the actual
1:22:45stuff there's almost always something I
1:22:46can do to it and if i get used to the
1:22:49idea that clicking on that chevron
1:22:51always means it can do things then
1:22:52that's great my god is that most power
1:22:55users are never going to click on those
1:22:56things are going to see that arrow I
1:22:58like you you're pretty good with
1:23:00computers and you didn't know about
1:23:01doing and playlists which tells me you
1:23:04did not spend a lot of time left
1:23:05clicking and or you know i just got this
1:23:09backwards because i use this track pad
1:23:11and a you know caps lock is why i still
1:23:13call it control-click yeah control
1:23:15clicking for his caps caps lock clicking
1:23:17but but you know you feel you know what
1:23:20I'm saying like for most people I think
1:23:21that the day into the danger not the
1:23:23danger think it's a little confusing
1:23:24about this is yes it's a new design we
1:23:26always we should always be open to a new
1:23:28design being better because this is a
1:23:30this is a group of companies that by and
1:23:32large we trust to make interesting and
1:23:34in good design decisions but there's a
1:23:36lot about it that that yes there's
1:23:38opposite like I'm just right now there's
1:23:39a lot of stuff you don't see until your
1:23:40mouse over it and then when you do mouse
1:23:42over it you're like what like I mouse
1:23:44over a song i now have exactly the same
1:23:46chevron for a song as I do for the album
1:23:49so what does that mean well just click
1:23:51and find out
1:23:51I've also got these for tiny little dots
1:23:54what is that well I know that's for I
1:23:56want to rate this right but I don't know
1:23:59very good is going to know that the
1:24:00truth is that i don't think most people
1:24:01are going to use any of that really
1:24:03generate your songs to write your songs
1:24:05i used to i would I wish we had another
1:24:09two hours because i have so much great
1:24:11itunes tip stuff to share but I I'm not
1:24:13big on ratings i am
1:24:15big on metadata and i use the play
1:24:21john sarkissian over here is this I I
1:24:22rely heavily on the implicit metadata of
1:24:25what exists in the songs and what is
1:24:27learned from my behavior so i would much
1:24:29rather count on
1:24:30I would watch for these skip count yeah
1:24:33and number of plays to make a playlist
1:24:35and i would buy is this two-and-a-half
1:24:37to four-and-a-half stars
1:24:39yeah exactly i wanted to show me you
1:24:41know you know it's just like good user
1:24:43testing right it's like yeah you should
1:24:45tell us the symptoms of how you use this
1:24:47but we're more interested in the signs
1:24:48with your behavior shows i almost trust
1:24:51itunes to start my songs more than
1:24:54myself and there are a few there's
1:24:56obviously you know it's like like raging
1:24:59bowl that grading bowl is a obviously
1:25:02one of the greatest movies ever made one
1:25:04of my favorites but you just can't watch
1:25:05it that often
1:25:06it's just too much right it takes a lot
1:25:08out of me to watch Raging Bull so my
1:25:10play count on raging bowl as a movie is
1:25:12going to be a lot lower than the Stars I
1:25:14would assign to it because I just can't
1:25:16take it
1:25:17it's i love i love and godspeed you
1:25:19black emperor with it which is this a
1:25:20band from Canada that makes these
1:25:22wonderful very long
1:25:24orchestral atmospheric ever seen at 28
1:25:26days later
1:25:27yes remember when the guy wakes up and
1:25:29he starts walking through the streets
1:25:30and you hear that like that very
1:25:32memorable cello like yeah that's
1:25:35godspeed you black emperor that's that's
1:25:37five star music that i do not want to
1:25:39hear 16 minutes at a time so skip count
1:25:42on that is kinda high but you can hack
1:25:44this right easily by and I don't derail
1:25:46this because it but i do have a lot of
1:25:48on this is like the way that I do
1:25:49playlist i think is pretty smart i do it
1:25:52very heavily upon like building the bit
1:25:55i have a whole bunch of I cloud-related
1:25:57smart playlists that I'd love to share
1:25:58with people because i think they could
1:25:59be a lifesaver
1:26:00but then I do a very heavily based upon
1:26:02the number of times that the ratings I
1:26:03mean what a ratings you have time to sit
1:26:05and write everything and what is that
1:26:06reading mean it'sit's not that much
1:26:08better than what you get on the itunes
1:26:10store what's good for what the gene i
1:26:13can tell you the genius break for you
1:26:16after iTunes Match initially when i
1:26:19first got on itunes magic is stopped
1:26:20working on my on my mac i guess it was
1:26:23there was enough on the computer for it
1:26:25to work
1:26:26yeah I don't know it gets like you for a
1:26:28while
1:26:28definitely definitely started working
1:26:30even in 10 i guess what's the last
1:26:32itunes at work this did start working
1:26:34again it was a revelation
1:26:35I don't know how the hell it does it
1:26:36that it's crazy all we've learned from
1:26:38collaborative filtering it works pretty
1:26:40great and I'll tell you the genius
1:26:43playlists are frequently way better than
1:26:45anything i would have come up with on my
1:26:46own
1:26:47yeah i agree with that and but I'd but I
1:26:48also think that's exactly why I think I
1:26:50trust itunes to write my songs for me I
1:26:53well you know just as a and then let me
1:26:55override it
1:26:56you know I'll tell you what's a
1:26:57super-duper rathole that still drives me
1:26:58crazy
1:26:59why doesn't it doesn't I RS know which
1:27:01apps that use the most
1:27:02why is there not an automatic Smart
1:27:04Folder for the apps that I use the most
1:27:07don't you think there should be a full
1:27:09Smart Folder I know this doesn't exist
1:27:11but shouldn't be a smart folder
1:27:12automatically populated in your dock
1:27:14with the five apps you use the most
1:27:16I'm sorry nine apps you use the most I
1:27:20definitely think so i think i think i
1:27:22don't think that the the visual
1:27:24presentation of as they call it spring
1:27:26board is at anyway problematic i know a
1:27:29lot of nerds want to put widgets and
1:27:30have also expensive i think my nandroid
1:27:33I think this idea that the the baseline
1:27:36of the iOS universe is a desktop you get
1:27:38to pick the background and it's just an
1:27:40organized list of your apps is the right
1:27:44concept i think the problem with
1:27:45springboard is the lack of organization
1:27:48features you know like moving apps
1:27:50around in that thing is makes me feel
1:27:52like I've got a job and that the line if
1:27:54you've done it right and like in my case
1:27:56i I'm sorry to say that i have more apps
1:27:59that can be shown right on
1:28:01and so what i do i start i joked about
1:28:03this not long ago i'll go to a page with
1:28:05a bunch of crap so I don't use it takes
1:28:07so long to delete at least when you do
1:28:10it through itunes when you connect the
1:28:11device and I guess you can select more
1:28:13than one at a time and move more than
1:28:14it's not two clicks it's not all those
1:28:16extra clicks and that but what i'll do
1:28:18is i'll create a drop on top of the
1:28:20other and say do you want to create the
1:28:22folder called productivity I no no it's
1:28:25called board 37 and so I just dropped
1:28:27chop and I guess nine apps or whatever
1:28:30it'll take right but I mean that that is
1:28:32it becomes so time-consuming and then
1:28:34what's crazy making is if there is an
1:28:35app in there that i use once a year and
1:28:37I do the search you know the go left and
1:28:40do the search
1:28:41I wish you could say show in folder or
1:28:44show on page and you know what yeah I
1:28:48know exactly I know exactly what you
1:28:49mean no because I am organized and I
1:28:51have organized everything into folders
1:28:53well then the folders lose their
1:28:54taxonomical significance if I don't have
1:28:56a way to find out
1:28:58it's its siblings know is I'd the thing
1:29:01you just described run into all the time
1:29:02where there's a certain app i realized i
1:29:04want to use one of them like for example
1:29:06a speed test where you might have one
1:29:10you might have one called internet
1:29:11utilities for example isn't a stand and
1:29:13I often you know when i get like a new
1:29:16device from Apple to you know like the
1:29:18new ipad mini comes out and i want to
1:29:20test the to see hey what's the LT is the
1:29:22LTE speeds just as fast as the iphone by
1:29:25getting different speeds or something
1:29:26that so now i haven't used to be tested
1:29:27a while but i want to use it and i think
1:29:29you know i used this thing enough that I
1:29:31I should move it up to a more prominent
1:29:34screen but i'll search for it on that
1:29:36search screen and then I want to know
1:29:38where the hell is I don't know where
1:29:39speed test is on my phone I don't really
1:29:41tells you that it's in a folder called
1:29:43travel I don't have no idea where it is
1:29:45so I'll just what I'll do is I'll just
1:29:48launch it from the the search page and
1:29:50give up on knowing where the hell is
1:29:52what i would ask right now is that they
1:29:54added something in six that's cool
1:29:56which is when you search if you have
1:29:58done the you know it's pretty cool
1:30:00disney magic that if you put two similar
1:30:02apps if you drop a nap on a similar app
1:30:04it's pretty cool that those notes that
1:30:05those are both music apps or travel
1:30:07option that's pretty that's pretty cool
1:30:08it's done that ever since they've had
1:30:09the folders feature if yeah but I mean
1:30:11it was gonna say that it's nice it's
1:30:13always been cool it guesses that well
1:30:14but will be nice and this is probably
1:30:16inner thing but when you do that search
1:30:18for speed test what we call that thing
1:30:20the search page whatever you them then
1:30:23your spotlight they might call it
1:30:24spotlight did you notice that it now
1:30:26shows you the name of the folder when it
1:30:28finds no I didn't know that so if you
1:30:30search for something to show you the
1:30:31name the folder now obviously the neck
1:30:33the great tell you what home screen
1:30:34that's on though I want to know what's
1:30:35going on homescreen aight well I wish
1:30:37there was just a disclosed button there
1:30:39would or a you know an i right or just
1:30:42show me love show it to me
1:30:43yeah but but you know that this is this
1:30:46is the one funny thing when I'm sure we
1:30:47don't have time to get into this but i
1:30:48want at least a stake in the ground
1:30:50I there's so much stuff like it's one
1:30:52thing to say okay I want to play list
1:30:54and of these songs that i liked or I
1:30:57want to make a mixtape for somebody as
1:30:59we used to say but there's so much power
1:31:01in smart playlists that most people have
1:31:03no idea about and they are absolutely
1:31:06indispensable if you're using iTunes
1:31:08Match like I have I have I have so many
1:31:11of these that I rely on one of them is
1:31:12here is all stuff that I know is
1:31:15copacetic in the cloud right and
1:31:19everything it's matched your purchase
1:31:20toward any of the matches these are any
1:31:22of these three criteria that first of
1:31:24all fantastic because you can see how
1:31:25much of your stuff is you know up there
1:31:28i have 14 problems
1:31:30show me any one where it is not you know
1:31:34is where it's deleted or problem or
1:31:36whatever it is but you know what I've
1:31:38got I've got one that I swear by this is
1:31:40a little byzantine but I take that is
1:31:45this safe in the cloud list and I use
1:31:48that as the basis for show me everything
1:31:50that's in my safe in the cloud list this
1:31:52larger than 15 mix and sort by size so
1:31:56if I'm running out of space
1:31:57I know that can very clear very quickly
1:32:00clear up three gigs by deleting
1:32:01everything in here without actually
1:32:03losing it forever and on my on my
1:32:06macbook air that's indispensable that I
1:32:08mean I feel that thing up fast if i put
1:32:10some HD movies on their right forgot I
1:32:13forgot a pre-bought to Bob brave and the
1:32:17brave plus special features is going to
1:32:19be like eight gigs or whatever things
1:32:20like that but then you can also get into
1:32:22these wonderful things where you can mix
1:32:24those less this should be a separate
1:32:25show i'm sorry but if you come up with
1:32:27the list that work for you like you know
1:32:29show me everything that I listen to more
1:32:31than 10 times it's not in children's
1:32:33music or holiday music or any of this
1:32:35array and has fewer than 5 skip counts
1:32:38wow that's actually a pretty great list
1:32:39doesn't matter what rating you gave it
1:32:41your going to hear songs that you like
1:32:43so if you can combine those together you
1:32:46come up with these fantastic on-the-go
1:32:47list for iOS and that stuff is all still
1:32:51in here
1:32:51I don't think it's super obvious how to
1:32:53use all that a lot of people don't know
1:32:54that you can make like sub list entries
1:32:56inside of smart playlist you know what I
1:32:58mean yeah where you can have a raise and
1:32:59a raise or whatever right but you like
1:33:03it i do anything about the second spot
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1:33:48my favorites are things like it's got
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1:33:54manual white balance you can change the
1:33:57white balance it has a good anti-shake
1:33:58feature to help steady photos when
1:34:02you're holding it in your hand bunch of
1:34:04options for grid lines so you could turn
1:34:06on the rule of thirds you can set on
1:34:08some other options for the gridlines you
1:34:10can turn on the mode they call it big
1:34:12button mode where the whole screen is
1:34:14the shutter right never have that
1:34:16problem with the built-in camera app or
1:34:18that there's only like two pixels that
1:34:19registers you don't want to use you
1:34:21don't want to like if you use this
1:34:22inward facing camera you can hit the
1:34:24button but if you tried it from the
1:34:25other side it's a real you know talking
1:34:27about your portrait exactly big button
1:34:30it helps so much for that right because
1:34:32you all you have to know if you feel
1:34:33glass it's a shutter button
1:34:35they've also you know they've got the
1:34:37same thing that the photo app has
1:34:39everybody has now you can use the volume
1:34:40button as a shutter
1:34:42you can also use the volume button on a
1:34:43headphone if it's attached so it's sort
1:34:46of like what do they call that Dad
1:34:48photography terms are remote shutter
1:34:50button really James Bond make you do
1:34:52that I on the video side now here's
1:34:55where they're really getting in a realm
1:34:56where these are some of that really
1:34:58advanced features they got done the
1:35:00video side you can shoot videos with
1:35:01camera+ pro with real-time video filters
1:35:04so you can get and now you know and
1:35:06again i always say this i know people
1:35:08are some people are against the filters
1:35:10some of the filters yeah a little bit
1:35:11kitschy a little bit retro some of the
1:35:13filters are just you know really make it
1:35:15look a little bit more like
1:35:16movie you know more filmic I think some
1:35:18of the filters are really great but you
1:35:20can see them live I don't even know how
1:35:22that to me this is black magic i don't i
1:35:24don't know how a little iphone thing can
1:35:27can do live video filtering as you shoot
1:35:30but it works
1:35:31that's the thing that blew me away about
1:35:32these guys at macworld last year's I
1:35:36think it got them the best to show at
1:35:37macworld expose that they were they had
1:35:40this app that did video filters you know
1:35:41I Instagram style histogram style
1:35:44whatever you want to call it but live as
1:35:47you shoot the video i had no idea that
1:35:48existed i love this happened had no idea
1:35:50that accepted and it doesn't seem
1:35:52mathematically possible to me but it
1:35:54works
1:35:54I sharing you could share to facebook
1:35:57twitter flickr anyplace you want to send
1:36:00photos they have a feature I don't know
1:36:02why anybody would ever want to use such
1:36:04a feature but they have a feature where
1:36:05you can have a private collection of
1:36:07photos within the app that's
1:36:08password-protected i don't know i mean
1:36:11it seems like something somebody would
1:36:12want to use I don't yes a sensitive
1:36:14government data
1:36:15exactly that's a good idea but i use it
1:36:17i like it it's got some great if you
1:36:19know and it's a dude on the whole bunch
1:36:22of filters that you can use one of my
1:36:23fam other favorite things about their
1:36:24filters is that when you apply a filter
1:36:26to a photo I have a little slider that
1:36:29just let you adjust the filter strength
1:36:31so if you say give it the bleach bypass
1:36:34filter and it really has this sort of
1:36:37absurdly strong filter look to it if you
1:36:41think that's too much you can just slide
1:36:43that down a little bit and just to put
1:36:44it like thirty percent or something like
1:36:46that and it just gives it a hint of that
1:36:48look which i think is a just a great
1:36:50feature really really helps sort of let
1:36:54you feel like you're in control of it
1:36:56and it like a real app like lightroom or
1:36:58something like that on your Mac here's
1:37:02how do you get it I know that's what
1:37:03you're wondering
1:37:04you ever hear the website bit ly I know
1:37:06about Bentley vit dot I know why right
1:37:10see here's what you do you go to
1:37:11bit.ly/b i TTLY / by CP pro so that that
1:37:17bu y like buyers and purchase bu y SI p
1:37:22pro/5 I see p pro
1:37:28that'll let them track it you don't know
1:37:30that you're coming from the talk show
1:37:31that's the idea behind the bitly URL
1:37:33they can say wow look at all these
1:37:35people coming from the talk show how
1:37:37much does it cost cost up buck 99 12 box
1:37:41that's going to get a great app camera+
1:37:43pro when you google for it comes up
1:37:45number one number one before you can do
1:37:48before we do it as Google's monster
1:37:50would like to mention them they have
1:37:53their big supporters of the show i have
1:37:55i have wow I I'll this
1:37:57wow I guess I i thought i was using this
1:37:59most recent version but oh my god this
1:38:01is amazing and beautiful app and they
1:38:03were one of the first they're one of the
1:38:04first word when camera+ came out
1:38:06everybody was like wait a minute you can
1:38:09do this the best
1:38:12yep so what else is going on is that you
1:38:17know what it is and we're going along we
1:38:19should get the hell off we should have
1:38:20we should have a show John I know you
1:38:22wouldn't want to do that probably but we
1:38:23should have a show this is ridiculous we
1:38:25have you know we have some stuff to talk
1:38:27about
1:38:28he really know anything we need to talk
1:38:30about now I mean we have we have shared
1:38:33interest that we can make Valerie shared
1:38:35interest we can helps in any people
1:38:37Susie astok and entertaining and
1:38:38engaging manner that's what i meant
1:38:40having that you can i have some shit to
1:38:42talk about that I know you're the one
1:38:45sending that stuff to my wife
1:38:47look I don't I told you I was going to
1:38:50take care of your investment haha
1:38:54listen the market is subject to
1:38:56volatility I'm not a magician
1:38:58we can talk more time ever done it never
1:39:02happens you never told you you could
1:39:04never lose then I have for government
1:39:06veranda federal something-something this
1:39:10is pretty probably long right run along
1:39:12a little bit but dunno maybe there's
1:39:14some stuff we could cut we keep talking
1:39:15about how you have apple news kind of
1:39:17cattail people one more thing
1:39:19yeah what do you want to talk about I
1:39:20feel like you have some self what you
1:39:21want to say well I'm gonna mention more
1:39:23slightly items related thing now
1:39:24now i'm a a reformed retired adjunct
1:39:27productivity guy of some renown I must
1:39:31say and for her for years
1:39:34one of the i use this is an example i
1:39:36always use notebooks as an exact great
1:39:38example of productivity porn and the
1:39:39idea that if you focus too much on the
1:39:40notebook
1:39:41he won't do your stuff the other example
1:39:42in terms of like stuff I do and I
1:39:44mention that because i'm a notebook nerd
1:39:46like I love field notes i love all these
1:39:47notes the other one for me is is
1:39:49metadata I am so pointlessly obsessed
1:39:52with correct metadata and things and it
1:39:55drives me bananas and even for a long
1:39:57time I there are various other various
1:39:59different ways to use this but running
1:40:00people wear something that's really cool
1:40:02and it's free think it's free
1:40:03musicbrainz mean mu SE pyaar ki NZ
1:40:07believe it's musicbrainz dork but if you
1:40:10google musicbrainz you will find it it
1:40:12has the most exhaustive set of metadata
1:40:14about anything I've ever seen you don't
1:40:16want to go to shot just for fun so
1:40:18here's the neat part though a you go in
1:40:20and search musicbrainz for tom petty
1:40:23it's because they are some petty you
1:40:25click on Tom Petty this is ok show me
1:40:26the torpedoes ok yourselves repeat rows
1:40:28wait a minute you're telling me that
1:40:30there's a will that be nineteen eighty
1:40:32that there's like all that whatever the
1:40:34whatever came out 1980 versus on this
1:40:39label that's an LP but there's also a
1:40:41version that came out later on with
1:40:43bonus tracks on a CD and is also never
1:40:45it doesn't drive you crazy when you have
1:40:47to when you want to get that metadata
1:40:49right on stuff but there's like four
1:40:51extra tracks and their itunes confused
1:40:54well this is that all that stuff is in
1:40:55there which is amazing but here's the
1:40:57beauty part you can download this app
1:40:59called things called musicbrainz picard
1:41:01like you like Professor X Picard and you
1:41:05get on the download strong luke and you
1:41:07drag tracks into this and it applies all
1:41:11that metadata to your tracks for you
1:41:13downtown your name in the files
1:41:15how do you get that you just go to a
1:41:18good search for musicbrainz picard and
1:41:20it's not the prettiest kind of swing
1:41:22looking kind of you know python looking
1:41:24but it works well and you go in and say
1:41:27you just throw a big bunch of stuff in
1:41:29there
1:41:29I think it's better to start out like I
1:41:31just to get a get your legs under you
1:41:33put it like grab there's some album
1:41:35where you've got to get you throw a
1:41:37nightmare on elm street whatever the
1:41:40stones records you like throw that in
1:41:41there and then tell it everything in
1:41:43this group make this the costly released
1:41:48edition from a couple years ago and say
1:41:50okay got it all
1:41:51boom because the correct stuff it enters
1:41:53in the composer data
1:41:54you like everything that it can and then
1:41:56they make sure i can so much more fun to
1:41:58use it sounds crazy but if you get stuff
1:42:01you can it'll improve stuff like your
1:42:03stuff you bought from Apple too little
1:42:05ad better stuff to that anyway I just it
1:42:08organizes better it makes your playlist
1:42:10better
1:42:10it drives me nuts will not help it will
1:42:13help with album art for missing album
1:42:14art I think it will help in the Senate
1:42:19I'm trying to remember you can get album
1:42:20art for I know there are other apps that
1:42:21do that used to be one called mp3
1:42:26someone I used to use but there's always
1:42:30been little apps like this if nothing
1:42:31else it'll make sure that it has
1:42:32normalized as John siracusa says
1:42:34normalized metadata that will be correct
1:42:37and help you find hopefully the right
1:42:39one have a common except that does that
1:42:41but I guess what I'm kind of getting at
1:42:44is like one of two things first of all
1:42:45like there's nice we have so much stuff
1:42:47now that labeling stuff incorrectly has
1:42:50a cost to it even if it's silly stuff
1:42:52like music because stuff like duplicates
1:42:54because you can send more than one
1:42:56version itunes match as i learned i have
1:42:58arrived as i click around yesterday
1:43:00looking for screenshots and stuff
1:43:02I don't realize just how many duplicate
1:43:04just like duplicates and display exact
1:43:06duplicates is only so helpful in a first
1:43:08of all it doesn't work all that great
1:43:10and be it doesn't automatically pick
1:43:11what to get rid of
1:43:12well if you find the correct version and
1:43:14prefer this certain bit rain so forth it
1:43:17gets a lot easier to do that i'm
1:43:18actually have an app that i like that
1:43:19will help with that a lot i have one of
1:43:21those for iphoto that I like a lot but
1:43:23first of all yes
1:43:24hey there's a cost not having this
1:43:26correct because you know example case be
1:43:29i'm on iOS and suddenly i have four
1:43:32different artist called electric light
1:43:34orchestra which makes it really annoying
1:43:36well I happen to like yellow but you
1:43:39know what I'm saying like you go in
1:43:40there now and your stuff isn't all in
1:43:41the same place so you can make lists as
1:43:43easily you're going to go back to your
1:43:44computer and fix all of that some people
1:43:46on iOS you know maybe don't even have
1:43:49that option but we do if we're always 10
1:43:51users and this is a great ones of the
1:43:53card one of my pics pic of the week and
1:43:56your you strike me somebody's probably
1:43:58not a big metadata guy you don't spend a
1:44:00morning on that i can i can get IQ get i
1:44:03can get into it for the stuff that
1:44:05matters to you it's great like all I do
1:44:07we did all my
1:44:08new order stuff and fixed up all my new
1:44:10order stuff make sure the tracks come
1:44:11from the right thing and instead of me
1:44:13having to sit there in search 10 sites
1:44:15to find which of these five versions of
1:44:16ceremony this is it will do it for you
1:44:18and it's pretty terrific it can also do
1:44:21an acoustic fingerprint it will look at
1:44:23if it doesn't if you have no idea what
1:44:25the track is you throw in your unknown
1:44:26whatever that you know that one checked
1:44:30folder you have called unknown sort of
1:44:33whatever it couldn't it'll take a shot
1:44:35take a swag and doing an acoustic
1:44:37footprint to figure out what it is huh
1:44:39so as more of your let's say a hundred
1:44:41and twenty-eight k plus stuff makes it
1:44:43way it makes its way into the itunes
1:44:45ecosystem this will benefit you even
1:44:48just take you here you go make a smart
1:44:50playlist of your most played albums and
1:44:52just even fix those and make your life
1:44:53better
1:44:54so it's good and something I'll share my
1:44:57our my smart playlist with you you have
1:45:00those did you do smart playlist for
1:45:01iTunes Match I for iTunes Match like I
1:45:07was really scared to throw stuff away
1:45:09until I was really I mean I was scared I
1:45:11knew that I didn't have to have a 65 gig
1:45:14itunes library on every machine anymore
1:45:17swimming and i wanted to i want to have
1:45:19the confidence to delete stuff
1:45:21especially with movies dude I mean I had
1:45:25it set to automatically download like I
1:45:27say with brave i mean brave was big
1:45:30you know that SP that's one of the
1:45:32things that to me is unheralded about
1:45:33the new itunes 11 is there now are under
1:45:36Harold at least is that they've finally
1:45:38they more or less than the same thing
1:45:40with movies and TV shows as they did
1:45:41with music where if you bought it from
1:45:43apple it's you can just delete it from
1:45:46your computer and it still shows up and
1:45:48it's just like you know it's in this
1:45:50oh you know the other thing they added
1:45:52but I'm this actually supports I think
1:45:54rather than refutes that he did you see
1:45:57you now have an overall tick-box 44
1:46:01don't show so you know it like for
1:46:04example on iOS you can go in and say
1:46:06only show local music don't show iCloud
1:46:08music that's not on this ya ice
1:46:10yeah you can do that now in itunes also
1:46:12without a smart playlist which is huge
1:46:15if you're on vacation right because
1:46:17you're not don't don't tease me with the
1:46:18shit I can't play well here's the thing
1:46:21II when you're on vacation you won't
1:46:23find out you don't have it but a if
1:46:25you're not a vacation yet you might want
1:46:27to go and be sure you've got everything
1:46:28you want on there right so that's a nice
1:46:31one I mean that's a nice feature because
1:46:32not everybody's going to care about that
1:46:34or need that you know it's we always
1:46:36have to think about the people who are
1:46:38the new customers where is that growth
1:46:39coming from
1:46:40well you know there's not that many
1:46:42people certainly there are nervous
1:46:43they're gonna buy 5 iPad and 7i phones
1:46:45but clearly this growth is among people
1:46:47who have not been in the apple ecosystem
1:46:49before right
1:46:50I'm i think is back it gets back to the
1:46:52one of my rolled refrains which is that
1:46:55it's really almost everything is hard if
1:46:59it wasn't part of the original idea and
1:47:01the whole cloud thing was not part of
1:47:02the original idea with itunes and it
1:47:04really felt it with all the other
1:47:06previous versions whereas this new
1:47:08redesign really was and you know part of
1:47:10it you can be completely cynical about
1:47:12which is that it's also very largely
1:47:15about getting you to buy more stuff from
1:47:16the store but it you know just starting
1:47:20from the blank white board when they
1:47:22started designing with this new one was
1:47:24gonna look like it click they clearly
1:47:26had that a lot of this stuff the
1:47:28canonical store for it is our servers
1:47:31and you know I cloud wherever the hell
1:47:33they are as opposed to the old itunes
1:47:36where that the cloud stuff really was it
1:47:39both effectively and visually sort
1:47:42attacked on MH now you're i think i
1:47:45think you're right and you know the the
1:47:47cash to completely unexpected part of
1:47:49all this for me is apple TV her which I
1:47:52treated as as much of a hobby as Apple
1:47:53did for a long time but when I got the
1:47:56have the 720p the second latest one
1:47:58right
1:47:59same here I it is unbelievable i say i
1:48:03did a whole couple podcast about this
1:48:06about how I moved away from my old
1:48:07system having a mac mini and drove to do
1:48:10everything I still got them around but
1:48:12it's crazy how little i miss having a
1:48:14dedicated large storage device
1:48:18you know I mean I mean yes absolutely i
1:48:20am you know what I was drinking the
1:48:22other night about a copy of phantasm
1:48:23using phantasm it brings about remember
1:48:27that scary a commercial and is that orb
1:48:30like there's even a mausoleum and you
1:48:32see that the or with the little
1:48:33you can google it yeah the orb with the
1:48:36spike coming out of that goes in the
1:48:37guy's head and pulls out this blood
1:48:38spurts out just great low budget horror
1:48:40film from 1979 and described and then it
1:48:43was on my iPad in a few minutes that
1:48:45that they have created starting with the
1:48:48early days of the itunes store and being
1:48:49able to buy I mean to me now that
1:48:51pattern has become so ingrained that it
1:48:54competes very heavily with the
1:48:56pre-existing habit of just going and
1:48:57getting it off the back of a truck
1:48:59I I feel great being legit with it but
1:49:01it's also just more convenient not
1:49:03knowing that this is not going to have
1:49:04hard-coded dutch subs whatever those are
1:49:06but this will be like a good version of
1:49:08this that i can get from anywhere right
1:49:10you know the best copy the Avengers I've
1:49:12got is the one that I paid for and
1:49:14that's the thing that's really that's a
1:49:15good thing hasn't happened for you I
1:49:18mean Europe you use it seems like this
1:49:20must have been big for you guys too
1:49:21especially you got a kid too
1:49:23yeah I wish we had more of our movies on
1:49:25itunes then then dvds and stuff like
1:49:27that maybe the after dark all table
1:49:30something called I flex or play with
1:49:31that I I don't know
1:49:34ok I flac KS just saying I fli x ck x
1:49:40its yeah its metadata in place without
1:49:43having to recreate code and if it's an
1:49:45MKV whatever that is it can put a
1:49:47quicktime wrapper around it that lets it
1:49:49run right in itunes good thing
1:49:54yeah I know you know me i get yeah i
1:49:56know you get confused
1:49:57ya gotta get confused actually what
1:50:00Margaret wellhead was never forget this
1:50:04one night I tried to show was I don't
1:50:07know Gotye was the you & Simpson were
1:50:08definitely there and I was really
1:50:09excited about showing you this one
1:50:10bookmarklet oh and I remember like I I
1:50:14never felt like a bigger nerd than when
1:50:16you two guys were not interested in
1:50:18anything i had on and you're seriously
1:50:20you're like I was I was like the kid who
1:50:22was likely a nice bike well one of my
1:50:24boss by Kate spank you can just walked
1:50:27away I do i do remember that i actually
1:50:30it oddly have a very vivid memory of
1:50:32that I believe somehow we had either
1:50:33gotten kicked out of her head somehow
1:50:35decided that it was a bad scene it
1:50:38how about shields and we're going to
1:50:39Rickenbacker's right my opinion there's
1:50:41been several times I'd so you decided to
1:50:43spend like the three walk that there's
1:50:45like a three block walk
1:50:47between the two bars are going to catch
1:50:48up and talk about our lives we decided
1:50:50to explain quicks it goes next click
1:50:53like this crazy kinda like look I type
1:50:57in mdl returns a markdown link I've
1:51:01never met somebody so uninterested in
1:51:03the own the other thing that they have
1:51:04made the change the world
1:51:06I'm trying to show you a bookmarklet
1:51:07Montgomery Street and you won't even
1:51:09look at it but how do you remember it
1:51:12was it was you guys literally turn your
1:51:15backs and walked away but I also
1:51:17remember to that where we had previously
1:51:19all been on the same track we've been
1:51:21having a good time and then all of a
1:51:22sudden you took the b train and we took
1:51:24the seat man that's there's a reason i
1:51:28didn't get to sit at the lunch table
1:51:29with the cool kids actually just about
1:51:3130 reasons but I feel any battery
1:51:37feeling better having done this is it
1:51:39that you can get your head clear out a
1:51:40little over this cold i just don't maybe
1:51:43some time talking talking about your
1:51:45event feel a little better yeah
1:51:46absolutely but i don't have to see that
1:51:48is my that's my cue asked what my cold
1:51:50medicine of choice my cold medicine of
1:51:51choice is bourbon and because that's you
1:51:54know what if you will go and look at a
1:51:56lot of the medicines that are out there
1:51:57you know what it is it's alcohol there
1:51:59that's the truth we're still it's
1:52:01something that used to be useful because
1:52:02it had alcohol and now they took it's
1:52:04like it's like good like caffeine free
1:52:07diet coke like I don't understand what
1:52:08you're what you're drinking at that
1:52:09point you know in this case this used to
1:52:11be all about the liquor and now it's
1:52:13just something you buy a pharmacy that's
1:52:15a you know just some kind of useless
1:52:17tincture right what's the proof of
1:52:18nyquil I guess whether you feel better
1:52:21well but what's that
1:52:24back sorry I don't know what the proof
1:52:32is our kitty dukakis she's a rubbing
1:52:34alcohol lady right I what did she turn
1:52:38was it running on the same running out i
1:52:39don't think i might have been yeah yeah
1:52:41i think it was a shame i shouldn mission
1:52:43trip
1:52:43no that's not funny now he lost the
1:52:45election that's not funny right there
1:52:47would be pretty funny that she paid the
1:52:48White House just drinking a flower pots
1:52:51and shit caucus who
1:52:55that's a bummer bummer that that becomes
1:52:57your file card you know like that
1:52:59becomes
1:53:00like your one fast yeah like you David
1:53:02Carradine was was was going to be
1:53:04remembered as the guy from that show
1:53:05where they can get Bruce Lee that was
1:53:07pretty cool
1:53:07yeah it's the antibiotic there was a way
1:53:09he was a white guy who could do pretty
1:53:11cool karate in one chunk Norris he could
1:53:14pull off a nation right yeah and then
1:53:17you know things just went a little south
1:53:20one night right
1:53:21that is true yeah and there's some guys
1:53:24who can outlive it you know i mean like
1:53:25Elvis Elvis is a big enough guy
1:53:28where ya he he died ignominiously but
1:53:31that's just like an asterisk like a sad
1:53:33little yeah like element Beatles were
1:53:35big enough that we can remember them in
1:53:37different ways like they don't even
1:53:38remember when the stamps came out and
1:53:39like shouldn't be young Elvis or fat
1:53:41Elvis but there's not that many people
1:53:43like maybe Liz Taylor but there aren't
1:53:45that many people apart from people like
1:53:47them in the beatles where you get to go
1:53:49oh yeah there's the paul mccartney from
1:53:50this time in that time Elvis man
1:53:55yeah but like David Carradine he's a guy
1:53:58who's sort of that's a shame
1:54:00yeah I love that show 1989 Dukakis was
1:54:04briefly hospitalized after drinking
1:54:05rubbing alcohol rubbing alcohol running
1:54:07or thats that's rough
1:54:09that is rough and no i don't i can't
1:54:11think of any mixers that would make that
1:54:12a good thing for me yeah I don't think
1:54:14there's anything happen with that either
1:54:15you think cops n kids today a/c they
1:54:18would get it like an artisanal run right
1:54:20at all
1:54:20artisan okay yeah it would be alcohol do
1:54:23ribbing and it would be like guys like
1:54:25an absent that comes with a special
1:54:27spoon or something in a very elaborate
1:54:30Bob how this is how about our our bar
1:54:33yes you can come in and get a cocktail
1:54:35with ice like the other little queer
1:54:38bait bars you come to ours we're going
1:54:39to give you a drink you literally rub
1:54:40into your skin tank top tank tops
1:54:43welcome we'll make a poultice we could
1:54:47make you a like a heating pad you know
1:54:50with a with a daiquiri in it split sky