The Incomparable

00:00:05 ◼   ► the incomparable number 199 jun 2014 [TS]

00:00:12 ◼   ► welcome back to be uncomfortable i'm [TS]

00:00:14 ◼   ► your host Jason smell this episode 199 [TS]

00:00:18 ◼   ► surely not momentous in any possible way [TS]

00:00:22 ◼   ► we're here at the end of the or less the [TS]

00:00:26 ◼   ► end of what has traditionally been [TS]

00:00:28 ◼   ► considered the TV season although [TS]

00:00:29 ◼   ► there's a bunch of stuff that's on the [TS]

00:00:30 ◼   ► summer too and I thought this would be a [TS]

00:00:32 ◼   ► good time not only to do what we do [TS]

00:00:33 ◼   ► every year which is talk about the game [TS]

00:00:36 ◼   ► of thrones season that just passed but [TS]

00:00:37 ◼   ► also talk about other TV series that [TS]

00:00:39 ◼   ► we've seen over the past nine months and [TS]

00:00:42 ◼   ► that we want to talk about it maybe even [TS]

00:00:45 ◼   ► recommend to you [TS]

00:00:46 ◼   ► so we're going to start by talking about [TS]

00:00:47 ◼   ► things with the basically no spoilers or [TS]

00:00:51 ◼   ► as little spoiler as possible and then [TS]

00:00:53 ◼   ► we get to Game of Thrones the spoiler [TS]

00:00:55 ◼   ► horn is warming up in the bullpen ready [TS]

00:00:57 ◼   ► to come in and blow its horn so we can [TS]

00:00:59 ◼   ► talk about Game of Thrones Season 4 so [TS]

00:01:01 ◼   ► joining me to talk TV are a fine [TS]

00:01:04 ◼   ► collection of couch potatoes John [TS]

00:01:07 ◼   ► siracusa hello [TS]

00:01:08 ◼   ► you're all going to have to remind me [TS]

00:01:09 ◼   ► which TV shows actually happening to [TS]

00:01:12 ◼   ► this quote-unquote CM because my eyes [TS]

00:01:15 ◼   ► concept of time is very shaky but i have [TS]

00:01:17 ◼   ► a long list of shows just just stop me [TS]

00:01:19 ◼   ► if it's something that was online okay [TS]

00:01:20 ◼   ► we're not rigorous fact-checkers here [TS]

00:01:22 ◼   ► but we'll let will help you out if we [TS]

00:01:24 ◼   ► can David laura is also here hello hello [TS]

00:01:27 ◼   ► there you'll be leaving us when the [TS]

00:01:29 ◼   ► spoiler and fires for Game of Thrones as [TS]

00:01:31 ◼   ► you haven't seen it all hang out because [TS]

00:01:33 ◼   ► i'm not going to see it so okay all [TS]

00:01:35 ◼   ► right you can just you can just got [TS]

00:01:37 ◼   ► going on grants and stare at the wall [TS]

00:01:38 ◼   ► making using comment as needed [TS]

00:01:40 ◼   ► good good good that's so like always [TS]

00:01:43 ◼   ► Erica and sign also here hello hello [TS]

00:01:48 ◼   ► I my list is fearfully short but but I'm [TS]

00:01:51 ◼   ► excited about the things that are on it [TS]

00:01:53 ◼   ► today have TV in Canada [TS]

00:01:55 ◼   ► no actually we're going to talk about [TS]

00:01:57 ◼   ► some TV that was produced in Canada so I [TS]

00:01:59 ◼   ► shouldn't joke but it's can I can't [TS]

00:02:01 ◼   ► resist because you just so nice up there [TS]

00:02:03 ◼   ► yes we are very nice people and making [TS]

00:02:07 ◼   ► lots of TV shows actually turns out [TS]

00:02:09 ◼   ► mm and Scott McNulty is also out there [TS]

00:02:12 ◼   ► he watches television i do and now [TS]

00:02:15 ◼   ► you're going to talk about it [TS]

00:02:16 ◼   ► well maybe we'll see [TS]

00:02:18 ◼   ► we'll see like I should introduce you as [TS]

00:02:20 ◼   ► a as host of the uncomfortable is very [TS]

00:02:23 ◼   ► own spin-off podcast random Trek a show [TS]

00:02:25 ◼   ► about TV shows Star Trek TV shows [TS]

00:02:29 ◼   ► that's true i should mention Erica also [TS]

00:02:31 ◼   ► in addition to being on Verity which is [TS]

00:02:32 ◼   ► podcast about doctor who is also on the [TS]

00:02:34 ◼   ► audiobook guide to Babylon 5 which is a [TS]

00:02:36 ◼   ► show about that 15 so many TV experts [TS]

00:02:40 ◼   ► yeah but the episodes of Babylon 5 this [TS]

00:02:42 ◼   ► season did not so good enough didn't [TS]

00:02:44 ◼   ► really air well and star trek likewise [TS]

00:02:46 ◼   ► not airing currently it's true [TS]

00:02:48 ◼   ► not even in canada the dark time for the [TS]

00:02:50 ◼   ► Republic [TS]

00:02:51 ◼   ► alright yes so so well we should start [TS]

00:02:54 ◼   ► with uh with the things that aren't game [TS]

00:02:57 ◼   ► of thrones so the the show that i wanted [TS]

00:03:00 ◼   ► to bring up and have us talk about at [TS]

00:03:02 ◼   ► least a little bit that I really loved [TS]

00:03:04 ◼   ► last year and have been enjoying this [TS]

00:03:05 ◼   ► year as well is orphan black on BBC [TS]

00:03:08 ◼   ► america so I want to throw that one out [TS]

00:03:10 ◼   ► there how you guys watching orphan black [TS]

00:03:13 ◼   ► king of speaking of Canada [TS]

00:03:14 ◼   ► yes and this is it this is the show shot [TS]

00:03:16 ◼   ► in toronto i believe not [TS]

00:03:19 ◼   ► vancouver as so many shows are but you [TS]

00:03:23 ◼   ► have to perform that's one of the few [TS]

00:03:24 ◼   ► shows that i actually have been watching [TS]

00:03:26 ◼   ► and I got a little behind but marathon [TS]

00:03:28 ◼   ► like five episodes in the last two days [TS]

00:03:30 ◼   ► to catch up so I was ready to talk about [TS]

00:03:31 ◼   ► it and i love it and you're right it is [TS]

00:03:35 ◼   ► Canadian there was there's one scene [TS]

00:03:37 ◼   ► where a character is trying to be all [TS]

00:03:41 ◼   ► sneaky and he says I was just looking [TS]

00:03:43 ◼   ► for the washroom and I was like it's a [TS]

00:03:46 ◼   ► tell median it's giving away their I [TS]

00:03:48 ◼   ► believe there's actually a scene where [TS]

00:03:49 ◼   ► somebody's being shot at it and shouts [TS]

00:03:51 ◼   ► sorry sorry sorry i was like come on [TS]

00:03:54 ◼   ► Canada they say washroom and the [TS]

00:03:58 ◼   ► northern United States to not annoy no [TS]

00:04:01 ◼   ► they do not know it's can do know they [TS]

00:04:04 ◼   ► really don't [TS]

00:04:05 ◼   ► my mother-in-law says it she lives near [TS]

00:04:08 ◼   ► the Wisconsin border John your [TS]

00:04:10 ◼   ► mother-in-law's Canadian spy [TS]

00:04:11 ◼   ► yeah should be that's how they take us [TS]

00:04:14 ◼   ► down until they take America down [TS]

00:04:16 ◼   ► I mean I've never seen that on a sign [TS]

00:04:18 ◼   ► whereas in Canada all the signs that [TS]

00:04:20 ◼   ► there's no rest room or bathroom [TS]

00:04:21 ◼   ► science-y washroom [TS]

00:04:22 ◼   ► so you watch five episodes in in quick [TS]

00:04:25 ◼   ► succession so do you think you're a [TS]

00:04:26 ◼   ► clone now I see that's a deputy anyway [TS]

00:04:29 ◼   ► dear [TS]

00:04:31 ◼   ► mhm [TS]

00:04:32 ◼   ► well I'm actually convinced that my gosh [TS]

00:04:35 ◼   ► how do you say your name [TS]

00:04:36 ◼   ► tatiana much muscle on muscle on Lonnie [TS]

00:04:39 ◼   ► anyway I am convinced that they have [TS]

00:04:41 ◼   ► actually pulled the wool over our eyes [TS]

00:04:43 ◼   ► backward and she's triplets she is [TS]

00:04:45 ◼   ► actually probably at least include [TS]

00:04:47 ◼   ► templates and yeah because every single [TS]

00:04:51 ◼   ► time I watching that show i have to [TS]

00:04:52 ◼   ► remind myself at the end of it but that [TS]

00:04:54 ◼   ► was the same actor playing all of those [TS]

00:04:56 ◼   ► different parts which are so completely [TS]

00:04:57 ◼   ► different [TS]

00:04:58 ◼   ► it blows my mind it's like Eddie Murphy [TS]

00:05:00 ◼   ► and the barbershop and coming to America [TS]

00:05:02 ◼   ► exactly what i find myself pausing and [TS]

00:05:07 ◼   ► turn into my wife and saying that's one [TS]

00:05:10 ◼   ► actress because i can't believe it I i [TS]

00:05:13 ◼   ► will be so enthralled that I i will be [TS]

00:05:15 ◼   ► watching it and then and then I I [TS]

00:05:17 ◼   ► suddenly realize that you know [TS]

00:05:20 ◼   ► no I'm actually what this is a special [TS]

00:05:21 ◼   ► effect and it looks nothing like a [TS]

00:05:23 ◼   ► special effect these characters seem [TS]

00:05:24 ◼   ► fully realize they feel like they should [TS]

00:05:25 ◼   ► have her name in the credits five times [TS]

00:05:27 ◼   ► there are moments when one of the [TS]

00:05:29 ◼   ► characters is kind of light in an [TS]

00:05:30 ◼   ► episode and I think to myself oh they [TS]

00:05:32 ◼   ► must have given her the week off [TS]

00:05:34 ◼   ► no it's the same actress only sell some [TS]

00:05:38 ◼   ► of the characters are better realized [TS]

00:05:40 ◼   ► than others though I think she'd have [TS]

00:05:41 ◼   ► some characters better than she does [TS]

00:05:43 ◼   ► other ones not that I'm saying that it [TS]

00:05:45 ◼   ► starts to look like the same person but [TS]

00:05:46 ◼   ► I don't know who are your favorite to [TS]

00:05:49 ◼   ► you who are the characters that you [TS]

00:05:50 ◼   ► think she really inhabits versus the one [TS]

00:05:52 ◼   ► that you just kind of gets through [TS]

00:05:53 ◼   ► I think allison is the best of all the [TS]

00:05:56 ◼   ► clones naturally yeah yeah I think she's [TS]

00:05:59 ◼   ► up there i was gonna say hi Lena because [TS]

00:06:01 ◼   ► when oh my god willing is the one that [TS]

00:06:03 ◼   ► will be the farthest from the actress [TS]

00:06:05 ◼   ► and the great thing about it is that we [TS]

00:06:07 ◼   ► I bet we all are thinking the actress is [TS]

00:06:10 ◼   ► Sarah but we don't know I've never seen [TS]

00:06:11 ◼   ► an injury with the actors i have no idea [TS]

00:06:13 ◼   ► which one of these is most like the [TS]

00:06:14 ◼   ► actual actress which is also much Sarah [TS]

00:06:17 ◼   ► because she's it's not it's not she's [TS]

00:06:19 ◼   ► Canadian [TS]

00:06:19 ◼   ► so she doesn't have an english accent [TS]

00:06:21 ◼   ► she sounds more I suppose she sounds [TS]

00:06:24 ◼   ► well who did she sound like Alison maybe [TS]

00:06:27 ◼   ► she sounds maybe less perky maybe but [TS]

00:06:30 ◼   ► yeah like Alison accept less perky but [TS]

00:06:31 ◼   ► she definitely has a has a North [TS]

00:06:33 ◼   ► American accent not a not a another [TS]

00:06:35 ◼   ► British accent she did the British [TS]

00:06:37 ◼   ► accent is because it's on BBC america i [TS]

00:06:39 ◼   ► really believe that's been here but it's [TS]

00:06:43 ◼   ► good the opposite of watching the wire [TS]

00:06:44 ◼   ► where you you're sure [TS]

00:06:45 ◼   ► to learn how many ppl british accents [TS]

00:06:47 ◼   ► now I'm shocked to learn these people [TS]

00:06:48 ◼   ► don't have British accent yeah it's the [TS]

00:06:50 ◼   ► other way around [TS]

00:06:51 ◼   ► one thing I actually noticed about about [TS]

00:06:53 ◼   ► orphan black for the first time when we [TS]

00:06:55 ◼   ► were recording the last episode of the [TS]

00:06:57 ◼   ► incomparable about a geek girls with it [TS]

00:07:00 ◼   ► just occurred to me how women centric [TS]

00:07:03 ◼   ► this show is and as i watch this five [TS]

00:07:06 ◼   ► episodes that i watched between and now [TS]

00:07:07 ◼   ► I recognize that it's not just the fact [TS]

00:07:10 ◼   ► that that the main character is seven [TS]

00:07:12 ◼   ► main characters are played by the same [TS]

00:07:14 ◼   ► woman but if you look at the other [TS]

00:07:16 ◼   ► characters in the show who have the most [TS]

00:07:18 ◼   ► sort of power and agency and competence [TS]

00:07:20 ◼   ► almost all of them are either women or [TS]

00:07:23 ◼   ► gay or black or had something you know [TS]

00:07:26 ◼   ► it's it's a show that's pretty pretty [TS]

00:07:28 ◼   ► low on white dudes and I just I hadn't [TS]

00:07:32 ◼   ► even noticed that before because it's [TS]

00:07:33 ◼   ► just such a great show just pulled me in [TS]

00:07:35 ◼   ► and added a himbo this season though [TS]

00:07:38 ◼   ► yeah yeah thats little amped that's to [TS]

00:07:43 ◼   ► see him go into shows he's embo anh a [TS]

00:07:47 ◼   ► game of thrones doing yeah the same same [TS]

00:07:49 ◼   ► row but she's got we've got serious baby [TS]

00:07:51 ◼   ► daddy and also Beth's old boyfriend [TS]

00:07:53 ◼   ► those are both sort of like Captain [TS]

00:07:55 ◼   ► handsome types that are in there but [TS]

00:07:56 ◼   ► you're right there they're like adjuncts [TS]

00:07:58 ◼   ► they're not that you know other like [TS]

00:08:00 ◼   ► Matt Matt freeware i guess it was in [TS]

00:08:03 ◼   ► some ways the you know the most you know [TS]

00:08:07 ◼   ► powerful male figure on the show and [TS]

00:08:10 ◼   ► there there's some others but it does [TS]

00:08:12 ◼   ► seem like when they when they add one [TS]

00:08:14 ◼   ► they be subtracted different one [TS]

00:08:16 ◼   ► yeah I'm being too spoilery about it [TS]

00:08:18 ◼   ► yeah yeah there's some there's some of [TS]

00:08:20 ◼   ► my eye I see the budget that actually is [TS]

00:08:22 ◼   ► a complaint I have is like when they had [TS]

00:08:24 ◼   ► a character and subtracted character [TS]

00:08:25 ◼   ► it's literally like okay you tagging you [TS]

00:08:27 ◼   ► tagged out we can't pay you both i'm ok [TS]

00:08:31 ◼   ► with that because i don't want them to [TS]

00:08:32 ◼   ► dilute the amount of screen time yet one [TS]

00:08:34 ◼   ► gets anymore so i'm i'm happy with a few [TS]

00:08:37 ◼   ► more people buying up everything into [TS]

00:08:38 ◼   ► the season I was really worried about uh [TS]

00:08:40 ◼   ► i read an interview with the producers [TS]

00:08:43 ◼   ► of orphan black before the season [TS]

00:08:44 ◼   ► started where they said that they were [TS]

00:08:45 ◼   ► trying to get try to give Tatiana [TS]

00:08:47 ◼   ► maslany more of a break because she's [TS]

00:08:50 ◼   ► literally when you think about she's [TS]

00:08:51 ◼   ► literally in every scene and they were [TS]

00:08:53 ◼   ► trying to do some scenes without one of [TS]

00:08:54 ◼   ► the clones in them just so that they [TS]

00:08:55 ◼   ► would have a break for her and I was [TS]

00:08:57 ◼   ► worried that that was going to lead [TS]

00:08:59 ◼   ► kind of interminable plots with [TS]

00:09:01 ◼   ► characters that that are uninteresting [TS]

00:09:04 ◼   ► and you don't really notice it they did [TS]

00:09:06 ◼   ► a really good job [TS]

00:09:07 ◼   ► it still feels like she is she is in [TS]

00:09:09 ◼   ► most of the show and I think what it's [TS]

00:09:11 ◼   ► really done is given us some more time [TS]

00:09:13 ◼   ► with Felix her brother and which is [TS]

00:09:16 ◼   ► jordan comparisons the actor Plato also [TS]

00:09:18 ◼   ► Canadian doing an english accent I [TS]

00:09:20 ◼   ► believe butthead that's such a great [TS]

00:09:22 ◼   ► character and and in addition to his [TS]

00:09:26 ◼   ► relationship with all the other clones [TS]

00:09:28 ◼   ► it's not just his relationship with his [TS]

00:09:30 ◼   ► sister but he has really become like a [TS]

00:09:32 ◼   ► match for all these other clones in [TS]

00:09:35 ◼   ► hilarious different ways he also has had [TS]

00:09:37 ◼   ► some other stuff to do and I think [TS]

00:09:38 ◼   ► that's you know so I'm happy for some [TS]

00:09:40 ◼   ► more Felix even at the cost of some of [TS]

00:09:42 ◼   ► the clothes [TS]

00:09:42 ◼   ► me too although the funny thing is when [TS]

00:09:44 ◼   ► you said that I started trying to think [TS]

00:09:46 ◼   ► of some of the scenes that didn't have a [TS]

00:09:48 ◼   ► clone in them and find myself going oh [TS]

00:09:50 ◼   ► no wait that's a clone [TS]

00:09:51 ◼   ► yeah oh yeah oh wait that's her again [TS]

00:09:53 ◼   ► whoo yeah well there's the scenes with [TS]

00:09:55 ◼   ► Cosima no look at all the cult scenes [TS]

00:09:57 ◼   ► with like just the cult people writer [TS]

00:09:59 ◼   ► they're called person daughter that all [TS]

00:10:01 ◼   ► their sort of arguments and yet no I was [TS]

00:10:03 ◼   ► just about to think of what about the [TS]

00:10:04 ◼   ► ones that dyad now that's her to know [TS]

00:10:06 ◼   ► yeah I know that's the thing I so I'm [TS]

00:10:09 ◼   ► curious what you guys think of this [TS]

00:10:10 ◼   ► season compared to last season I I this [TS]

00:10:11 ◼   ► last season took me by surprise [TS]

00:10:13 ◼   ► obviously this performance is fantastic [TS]

00:10:16 ◼   ► this season i felt like i was really [TS]

00:10:20 ◼   ► happy I I didn't think I'm going into it [TS]

00:10:23 ◼   ► that they were going to be able to pull [TS]

00:10:24 ◼   ► it off again I was really kind of [TS]

00:10:25 ◼   ► skeptical about it and and wasn't given [TS]

00:10:27 ◼   ► much I was like this is gonna be a [TS]

00:10:28 ◼   ► disappointment this you know last year I [TS]

00:10:30 ◼   ► don't think they can they can keep it up [TS]

00:10:31 ◼   ► and I'm pleasantly surprised by the fact [TS]

00:10:34 ◼   ► that scene by seem I found this season [TS]

00:10:37 ◼   ► really enjoyable [TS]

00:10:38 ◼   ► that said I think some of the stuff with [TS]

00:10:41 ◼   ► the cold people left me kinda cold and [TS]

00:10:44 ◼   ► some of the I felt cut sometimes but the [TS]

00:10:46 ◼   ► plot was kind of doing a run around [TS]

00:10:47 ◼   ► where they were they were coming out [TS]

00:10:49 ◼   ► didn't have a story for ten after adding [TS]

00:10:51 ◼   ► water so there's like go over here like [TS]

00:10:52 ◼   ► Sara keeps on like go to go go to the RV [TS]

00:10:56 ◼   ► with your baby daddy and then go back [TS]

00:10:58 ◼   ► over here to the dyad and then go over [TS]

00:11:00 ◼   ► here to mrs. ass and she's just like [TS]

00:11:02 ◼   ► bouncing around and I felt like it was [TS]

00:11:04 ◼   ► kind of like just they did that they [TS]

00:11:06 ◼   ► didn't literally have enough story so [TS]

00:11:07 ◼   ► they just kept having people run around [TS]

00:11:08 ◼   ► and bounce off of each other but the [TS]

00:11:10 ◼   ► individual scene [TS]

00:11:11 ◼   ► and I have no complaints about that's [TS]

00:11:13 ◼   ► the thing is it in the big picture I'd [TS]

00:11:14 ◼   ► be like what really happened but in the [TS]

00:11:16 ◼   ► little picture i would always find in [TS]

00:11:18 ◼   ► every episode a half-dozen scenes of [TS]

00:11:21 ◼   ► different like cast members or clones [TS]

00:11:23 ◼   ► interacting with each other that i loved [TS]

00:11:25 ◼   ► i just the plot kind of let me call this [TS]

00:11:27 ◼   ► you know I completely agree and they're [TS]

00:11:29 ◼   ► losing the thread just like in the first [TS]

00:11:31 ◼   ► season they're so easy to do it four [TS]

00:11:33 ◼   ► seasons you like what some of the deal [TS]

00:11:34 ◼   ► with these clones like that's the thread [TS]

00:11:36 ◼   ► that pulls you along right and then you [TS]

00:11:37 ◼   ► have a crisis cliffhanger at the end of [TS]

00:11:39 ◼   ► it and the second season I guess we're [TS]

00:11:41 ◼   ► still trying to find out what the what [TS]

00:11:43 ◼   ► the clone is so the clones is sort of [TS]

00:11:45 ◼   ► like what is I mean eventually they [TS]

00:11:47 ◼   ► found eventually the end like oh you [TS]

00:11:49 ◼   ► know there's this thing and they want to [TS]

00:11:50 ◼   ► hear involved like it eventually found [TS]

00:11:52 ◼   ► something but there was a lot of just [TS]

00:11:54 ◼   ► kinda like you said running around in [TS]

00:11:55 ◼   ► circles in the middle part and you start [TS]

00:11:57 ◼   ► once you start to ask yourself what's [TS]

00:11:59 ◼   ► these people's motivations for the board [TS]

00:12:01 ◼   ► is this group what is that you just have [TS]

00:12:02 ◼   ► you have to know what that is otherwise [TS]

00:12:03 ◼   ► the story doesn't work and you have the [TS]

00:12:05 ◼   ► character seems for great and it on the [TS]

00:12:06 ◼   ► small level you know what this person [TS]

00:12:08 ◼   ► wants right now is to figure out what [TS]

00:12:10 ◼   ► back to do about this other person that [TS]

00:12:12 ◼   ► is causing a problem for them but that [TS]

00:12:13 ◼   ► is that small stakes in the big stakes [TS]

00:12:15 ◼   ► very often in episode it would be over [TS]

00:12:17 ◼   ► now be like what are they all trying to [TS]

00:12:19 ◼   ► do again and you're like I don't [TS]

00:12:21 ◼   ► remember but in some ways like and care [TS]

00:12:23 ◼   ► that much but it makes it less you know [TS]

00:12:25 ◼   ► the first season definitely had a [TS]

00:12:26 ◼   ► tractor pulling you along because you [TS]

00:12:28 ◼   ► wanted to know what the deal was with [TS]

00:12:30 ◼   ► the clones basically yeah also the the [TS]

00:12:32 ◼   ► week we sort of find who we think is at [TS]

00:12:34 ◼   ► least one of the key people in creating [TS]

00:12:36 ◼   ► clones and he's sitting right there and [TS]

00:12:38 ◼   ► I get the feeling like somebody should [TS]

00:12:40 ◼   ► ask him tell us the whole story of why [TS]

00:12:42 ◼   ► this happened and where does this DNA [TS]

00:12:43 ◼   ► come from and all that [TS]

00:12:45 ◼   ► instead it's like we need your five and [TS]

00:12:47 ◼   ► a quarter inch floppy disks from your [TS]

00:12:49 ◼   ► Apple to know computers running to kill [TS]

00:12:51 ◼   ► you to like that ask him first before [TS]

00:12:53 ◼   ► you come and and that there's probably [TS]

00:12:55 ◼   ► he has all these answers that the [TS]

00:12:57 ◼   ► producers just quite frankly don't know [TS]

00:12:59 ◼   ► or don't want to deal with so they [TS]

00:13:00 ◼   ► didn't label they've got someone who's [TS]

00:13:02 ◼   ► incredibly knowledgeable about the [TS]

00:13:03 ◼   ► history and the sort of don't want him [TS]

00:13:06 ◼   ► you know don't want to break the spell [TS]

00:13:08 ◼   ► because I'm and that was frustrating and [TS]

00:13:11 ◼   ► it just a minor way it's like what [TS]

00:13:13 ◼   ► what's the mystery here and I like the [TS]

00:13:14 ◼   ► complexity of the fact that they're like [TS]

00:13:16 ◼   ► three sort of subgroups fighting over [TS]

00:13:19 ◼   ► information about these clones there's [TS]

00:13:22 ◼   ► the another crazy doomsday cult and [TS]

00:13:23 ◼   ► there's like different parts of the diet [TS]

00:13:24 ◼   ► at institute but on another level it's [TS]

00:13:27 ◼   ► sort of like you know I don't you just [TS]

00:13:29 ◼   ► it's so easy to lose track and be like [TS]

00:13:31 ◼   ► who are these people and then they're [TS]

00:13:32 ◼   ► like double crossing each other and like [TS]

00:13:34 ◼   ► I have no idea what I'm even watching [TS]

00:13:36 ◼   ► here [TS]

00:13:36 ◼   ► yeah they don't need to do that because [TS]

00:13:38 ◼   ► they can always add another clone like [TS]

00:13:39 ◼   ► they have the out on this show is that [TS]

00:13:41 ◼   ► like you don't need to make this complex [TS]

00:13:43 ◼   ► 5.party kind of you know Battle of the [TS]

00:13:45 ◼   ► five armies situation going on you don't [TS]

00:13:47 ◼   ► you can make it a simple [TS]

00:13:48 ◼   ► good-versus-evil battle because anytime [TS]

00:13:50 ◼   ► you need to mix it up just parachuted in [TS]

00:13:52 ◼   ► another clone we all love it and it adds [TS]

00:13:55 ◼   ► you know a new angle to think of Paris [TS]

00:13:56 ◼   ► rather than in a group of clothes like [TS]

00:13:58 ◼   ► you always have that out on the show so [TS]

00:14:00 ◼   ► it seems unnecessary for them to take [TS]

00:14:02 ◼   ► the existing characters and split them [TS]

00:14:03 ◼   ► up into multiple teams I think the part [TS]

00:14:06 ◼   ► that I felt was the most run around with [TS]

00:14:07 ◼   ► the rehab part like that just didn't [TS]

00:14:09 ◼   ► really do anything for me as far as a [TS]

00:14:12 ◼   ► and yet the final payoff with with sarah [TS]

00:14:15 ◼   ► having to pretend and they're dragging [TS]

00:14:18 ◼   ► Vic's drug body through glitter was [TS]

00:14:22 ◼   ► hilarious right but now that was that [TS]

00:14:25 ◼   ► was to entry annoyed when it gets really [TS]

00:14:28 ◼   ► kind of slapstick e that with those of [TS]

00:14:30 ◼   ► the episodes that I sort of jump off for [TS]

00:14:32 ◼   ► a little bit which usually do have to do [TS]

00:14:34 ◼   ► with Allison and Allison pretending to [TS]

00:14:35 ◼   ► be somebody else or somebody else [TS]

00:14:37 ◼   ► pretending to be her did you not like [TS]

00:14:38 ◼   ► the episode last year where they have a [TS]

00:14:39 ◼   ► party at alison's house and she was [TS]

00:14:41 ◼   ► torturing her husband that was my least [TS]

00:14:43 ◼   ► like quite a bit [TS]

00:14:45 ◼   ► well that's a shame I I thought that was [TS]

00:14:47 ◼   ► my thing that I'm not really i'm not [TS]

00:14:49 ◼   ► really a Donnie fan either he done he [TS]

00:14:51 ◼   ► wasn't i wasn't i am I can't do any more [TS]

00:14:54 ◼   ► and more [TS]

00:14:55 ◼   ► he's he's turning into something at [TS]

00:14:57 ◼   ► least a little bit more interesting i [TS]

00:14:58 ◼   ► like the fact that he was a monitor but [TS]

00:15:00 ◼   ► was being lied to like they kept walking [TS]

00:15:02 ◼   ► that line and it's an interesting [TS]

00:15:03 ◼   ► resolution to say was he a spy or was he [TS]

00:15:05 ◼   ► a dummy he was both yeah that's fine [TS]

00:15:07 ◼   ► that's what ya doin that now he's coming [TS]

00:15:10 ◼   ► out the other side of the dimension of [TS]

00:15:12 ◼   ► dye can buy Donnie as a you know a tough [TS]

00:15:15 ◼   ► guy Adam I don't want to spoil the [TS]

00:15:17 ◼   ► ending I don't think Donnie I don't [TS]

00:15:18 ◼   ► think I think johnny is who he is and [TS]

00:15:20 ◼   ► any pretensions he has to be something [TS]

00:15:22 ◼   ► else will always be real back but you [TS]

00:15:24 ◼   ► know that it is a fascinating [TS]

00:15:26 ◼   ► it is a fascinating thing I i had what a [TS]

00:15:28 ◼   ► strange show you know what i did i did i [TS]

00:15:31 ◼   ► get a touch of the x-files from where [TS]

00:15:32 ◼   ► it's like let's just throw in some [TS]

00:15:34 ◼   ► conspiracies and double-crossing and [TS]

00:15:35 ◼   ► moles and things like no no no [TS]

00:15:38 ◼   ► no i don't i don't want that that's not [TS]

00:15:40 ◼   ► why i'm watching the show I am [TS]

00:15:42 ◼   ► fascinated by the idea where these uh [TS]

00:15:44 ◼   ► you know how these women differ and [TS]

00:15:46 ◼   ► where they come from and why Beth not [TS]

00:15:48 ◼   ► bad why Sarah is able to have a child [TS]

00:15:50 ◼   ► and I I keep waiting for a scene where [TS]

00:15:54 ◼   ► they find an old picture and she's in it [TS]

00:15:56 ◼   ► and it's the whoever the original that [TS]

00:15:59 ◼   ► they use the model save every season [TS]

00:16:02 ◼   ► four seasons yeah i know and you get [TS]

00:16:04 ◼   ► ahead of me well that's what I think [TS]

00:16:06 ◼   ► they have the guy not tell say anything [TS]

00:16:07 ◼   ► interesting is because then he'd give [TS]

00:16:10 ◼   ► away plot twist later which like not get [TS]

00:16:13 ◼   ► ahead of us remain silent sir we don't [TS]

00:16:15 ◼   ► want to know and you can't hope they're [TS]

00:16:17 ◼   ► there listening now and go hey that's a [TS]

00:16:20 ◼   ► good idea for seasonal yeah I imagine [TS]

00:16:22 ◼   ► that i mean the the nice thing and [TS]

00:16:24 ◼   ► something that there were recording this [TS]

00:16:26 ◼   ► before the season finale so you know [TS]

00:16:28 ◼   ► presumably will be some interesting [TS]

00:16:29 ◼   ► things that happened in episode 10 but [TS]

00:16:32 ◼   ► one of the things that I really like [TS]

00:16:34 ◼   ► about this show is that you can kill off [TS]

00:16:38 ◼   ► characters if they played by tatiana [TS]

00:16:42 ◼   ► maslany you can kill off characters with [TS]

00:16:44 ◼   ► no worry because you're not getting rid [TS]

00:16:46 ◼   ► of the actress you can introduce [TS]

00:16:48 ◼   ► characters but you can also kill them [TS]

00:16:50 ◼   ► off and so there's some jeopardy like [TS]

00:16:52 ◼   ► Sarah doesn't have to survive you know [TS]

00:16:55 ◼   ► that that's interesting I mean I doubt [TS]

00:16:57 ◼   ► they would kill her because she really [TS]

00:16:58 ◼   ► is sort of the main character but they [TS]

00:16:59 ◼   ► could because you know it wouldn't [TS]

00:17:02 ◼   ► it's about all the clones and that's [TS]

00:17:04 ◼   ► interesting that that gives them a level [TS]

00:17:07 ◼   ► of of unexpected possibilities that uh [TS]

00:17:10 ◼   ► that most shows don't have yeah I was [TS]

00:17:13 ◼   ► kind of hoping Cosima I don't I don't [TS]

00:17:14 ◼   ► you know we don't know how this ends but [TS]

00:17:16 ◼   ► if Cosima were to die I that I think you [TS]

00:17:20 ◼   ► they could do that in a way that adds [TS]

00:17:22 ◼   ► emotional heft to the show rather than [TS]

00:17:24 ◼   ► just like I mean they kind of killed [TS]

00:17:26 ◼   ► Elena but not really and I'm kinda glad [TS]

00:17:27 ◼   ► you came back because I like her I think [TS]

00:17:29 ◼   ► she's interesting but if Cosima dies [TS]

00:17:32 ◼   ► like if they really want to make a rift [TS]

00:17:34 ◼   ► in the clones having Cosima dire having [TS]

00:17:36 ◼   ► that go like it seems like it's headed [TS]

00:17:38 ◼   ► towards a a reasonable resolution but [TS]

00:17:41 ◼   ► that was one way the season could have [TS]

00:17:43 ◼   ► gone and probably know we'll still go it [TS]

00:17:45 ◼   ► that would add a harder edge to it but I [TS]

00:17:47 ◼   ► considering people are being drugged and [TS]

00:17:49 ◼   ► falling into glitter maybe that's what [TS]

00:17:51 ◼   ► that season's gonna go [TS]

00:17:52 ◼   ► no I think they like I think they like [TS]

00:17:53 ◼   ► to to vacillate between all the extremes [TS]

00:17:57 ◼   ► and explore all the different [TS]

00:17:57 ◼   ► possibilities it [TS]

00:17:59 ◼   ► that's one of a kind of crazy things [TS]

00:18:00 ◼   ► about the show that i like but yeah I i [TS]

00:18:02 ◼   ► agree i think i think killing one of [TS]

00:18:04 ◼   ► these characters me what makes me [TS]

00:18:06 ◼   ► reluctant to mention this is that we [TS]

00:18:08 ◼   ► thought that they had killed off one of [TS]

00:18:09 ◼   ► the clones at the end of last season and [TS]

00:18:11 ◼   ► they didn't they brought her back [TS]

00:18:13 ◼   ► you can't kill a man who walk away from [TS]

00:18:15 ◼   ► that farm is one of my favorite scenes [TS]

00:18:17 ◼   ► the holes here he's don't don't invite [TS]

00:18:19 ◼   ► him into your farm just got to the scene [TS]

00:18:21 ◼   ► with her in the bar is just fantastic i [TS]

00:18:25 ◼   ► love that scene it's so bizarre and and [TS]

00:18:27 ◼   ► then she beats up a biker gang and it's [TS]

00:18:31 ◼   ► great my sister just great just great [TS]

00:18:34 ◼   ► stuff anything more about orphan black [TS]

00:18:36 ◼   ► it's a fun show people should watch a [TS]

00:18:37 ◼   ► BBC america first season streaming [TS]

00:18:40 ◼   ► second Street season will eventually [TS]

00:18:42 ◼   ► stream somewhere who knows when because [TS]

00:18:44 ◼   ► they were really slow about the first [TS]

00:18:45 ◼   ► time and quite simply that you know [TS]

00:18:48 ◼   ► maybe the best performance going on on [TS]

00:18:51 ◼   ► TV right now if you add all of the [TS]

00:18:53 ◼   ► performances together or certainly if [TS]

00:18:56 ◼   ► not the best certainly the most [TS]

00:18:57 ◼   ► interesting because just watching her [TS]

00:18:59 ◼   ► watching her do what she does even if [TS]

00:19:01 ◼   ► you can poke holes in my girl she [TS]

00:19:03 ◼   ► doesn't do the accent that well or [TS]

00:19:04 ◼   ► whatever just had taken as a sum total [TS]

00:19:06 ◼   ► of like all that she's doing it you have [TS]

00:19:09 ◼   ► to forgive any any accent for tables or [TS]

00:19:11 ◼   ► manners and things or anything like that [TS]

00:19:13 ◼   ► because it really as a whole it's [TS]

00:19:15 ◼   ► fascinating and amazing and just keeps [TS]

00:19:17 ◼   ► you riveted yea oh yea even even when [TS]

00:19:20 ◼   ► the plot doesn't quite hold together you [TS]

00:19:22 ◼   ► still you just like how does she do that [TS]

00:19:24 ◼   ► then you [TS]

00:19:25 ◼   ► yeah yeah because like the I've had the [TS]

00:19:28 ◼   ► same feeling this season but it's just [TS]

00:19:30 ◼   ► spectacular watch that tape rope of [TS]

00:19:32 ◼   ► going back and forth [TS]

00:19:33 ◼   ► yeah well that and that's that's the [TS]

00:19:35 ◼   ► thing that gets me about the show is [TS]

00:19:36 ◼   ► that you can either enjoy he when the [TS]

00:19:39 ◼   ► plot is lagging you can enjoy the [TS]

00:19:41 ◼   ► performances or you can enjoy some of [TS]

00:19:43 ◼   ► the individual character interactions [TS]

00:19:46 ◼   ► and there's always something worth [TS]

00:19:48 ◼   ► watching on this show which is that's [TS]

00:19:51 ◼   ► pretty good also thumbs up on not trying [TS]

00:19:54 ◼   ► to do anymore sort of split-screen let's [TS]

00:19:58 ◼   ► make two of the same actress [TS]

00:20:00 ◼   ► interact with each other because they [TS]

00:20:02 ◼   ► don't have the budget to do that well [TS]

00:20:03 ◼   ► and they tried to do it in season one a [TS]

00:20:05 ◼   ► couple times to show off and it's like [TS]

00:20:06 ◼   ► just not we get it just don't bother [TS]

00:20:08 ◼   ► just leave them don't have them talk to [TS]

00:20:10 ◼   ► each other don't have to hand things to [TS]

00:20:11 ◼   ► each other and when you have them hugs [TS]

00:20:13 ◼   ► and we only see the back of someone's [TS]

00:20:14 ◼   ► head we know it's like just just don't [TS]

00:20:16 ◼   ► but they do when they do it they do it [TS]

00:20:18 ◼   ► really well there was a the there's a [TS]

00:20:20 ◼   ► scene in the last episode of season one [TS]

00:20:21 ◼   ► where it's a tracking shot and and [TS]

00:20:25 ◼   ► they're 22 of the same actress and her [TS]

00:20:27 ◼   ► three of the same actress in it but it's [TS]

00:20:29 ◼   ► a tracking shot it's like they don't [TS]

00:20:30 ◼   ► know they're showing off but I like it [TS]

00:20:32 ◼   ► yeah I never they do that I started to [TS]

00:20:34 ◼   ► see the sun's a little bit like I it [TS]

00:20:36 ◼   ► pulls me out of it is like I know what [TS]

00:20:38 ◼   ► you're doing I know you're proud of so [TS]

00:20:39 ◼   ► this season they only did like one scene [TS]

00:20:41 ◼   ► right there someone handed something to [TS]

00:20:43 ◼   ► someone will move on to another show in [TS]

00:20:47 ◼   ► just a moment but first I want to tell [TS]

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00:24:01 ◼   ► and I've made fun of it all year long [TS]

00:24:03 ◼   ► until recently [TS]

00:24:06 ◼   ► what does everyone think happened by the [TS]

00:24:09 ◼   ► end of this of the season with HTC [TS]

00:24:11 ◼   ► shield him that's still on it is pick up [TS]

00:24:15 ◼   ► my headphones i stopped watching at the [TS]

00:24:17 ◼   ► point when the captain america movie [TS]

00:24:19 ◼   ► takes over and I've seen the captain [TS]

00:24:20 ◼   ► america movie but I'm [TS]

00:24:21 ◼   ► patiently waiting for life to see it to [TS]

00:24:23 ◼   ► move on again we're gonna we're gonna [TS]

00:24:24 ◼   ► try to be as light as possible with the [TS]

00:24:26 ◼   ► splicer I this is what i would say [TS]

00:24:28 ◼   ► because we did it we are fall TV episode [TS]

00:24:31 ◼   ► we pretty much toward a new hole and i [TS]

00:24:34 ◼   ► would say be interested for your new [TS]

00:24:37 ◼   ► perspectives on this icy like about 10 [TS]

00:24:39 ◼   ► episodes in they started to right the [TS]

00:24:41 ◼   ► ship there was actually an episode where [TS]

00:24:42 ◼   ► I felt like I knew who the characters [TS]

00:24:44 ◼   ► were and that i actually was rooting for [TS]

00:24:46 ◼   ► them and then from there I felt like [TS]

00:24:49 ◼   ► they they continued to show improvement [TS]

00:24:51 ◼   ► to the point where in the last two or [TS]

00:24:54 ◼   ► three weeks I was you know really [TS]

00:24:57 ◼   ► excited to watch it like the day it was [TS]

00:24:58 ◼   ► on from from the point where I'd left [TS]

00:25:01 ◼   ► like four or five episodes pile up and [TS]

00:25:03 ◼   ► was watching them when you know my wife [TS]

00:25:06 ◼   ► was out or something and I was just like [TS]

00:25:08 ◼   ► well I want shield she doesn't want to [TS]

00:25:10 ◼   ► see it and then that was when it started [TS]

00:25:12 ◼   ► it it a midseason it started to turn [TS]

00:25:15 ◼   ► around and I don't know quite what they [TS]

00:25:16 ◼   ► did [TS]

00:25:17 ◼   ► other than that the character started [TS]

00:25:18 ◼   ► just feel more differentiated and and [TS]

00:25:20 ◼   ► you know I you could say was part of a [TS]

00:25:22 ◼   ► plan it didn't feel like a plan to me it [TS]

00:25:24 ◼   ► felt like they know episodes to actually [TS]

00:25:26 ◼   ► figure out what the heck the show was [TS]

00:25:27 ◼   ► going to be and then maybe because they [TS]

00:25:30 ◼   ► had something they were working toward [TS]

00:25:31 ◼   ► which is the captain america plot twist [TS]

00:25:33 ◼   ► thing but suddenly it was a totally [TS]

00:25:35 ◼   ► totally different I mean it's not like [TS]

00:25:37 ◼   ► the best show on TV by any stretch but [TS]

00:25:39 ◼   ► actually an enjoyable show which it [TS]

00:25:42 ◼   ► wasn't the first nine episodes or [TS]

00:25:44 ◼   ► whatever you mentioned the x-files [TS]

00:25:45 ◼   ► before like ended how they kept [TS]

00:25:48 ◼   ► introducing a lot of months pull things [TS]

00:25:50 ◼   ► along and in this case I think agents of [TS]

00:25:52 ◼   ► shield benefited from a little bit of [TS]

00:25:54 ◼   ► the sprinkling of the x-files dust in [TS]

00:25:56 ◼   ► there but they introduced was I fewer [TS]

00:25:59 ◼   ► standalone episodes where I guess they [TS]

00:26:02 ◼   ► were trying to establish the characters [TS]

00:26:03 ◼   ► and failing like early on and a couple [TS]

00:26:06 ◼   ► of Arc things you know like the the [TS]

00:26:08 ◼   ► mysterious origin of our favorite [TS]

00:26:10 ◼   ► character and the ark things that led [TS]

00:26:12 ◼   ► into captain American Ark things can be [TS]

00:26:14 ◼   ► tiresome and they certainly were in X [TS]

00:26:15 ◼   ► Files but I think the show needed a [TS]

00:26:17 ◼   ► little bit of it to pull it forward [TS]

00:26:18 ◼   ► otherwise like in the beginning I [TS]

00:26:19 ◼   ► thought I was watching a bunch of these [TS]

00:26:21 ◼   ► good-looking people who I don't care [TS]

00:26:23 ◼   ► about run around and have silly [TS]

00:26:24 ◼   ► adventures that are very silly there [TS]

00:26:26 ◼   ► needs to be and like Doctor Who there [TS]

00:26:28 ◼   ► needs to be something some kind of arc [TS]

00:26:29 ◼   ► for the season some kind of underlying [TS]

00:26:31 ◼   ► story to carry you through the [TS]

00:26:33 ◼   ► their episodes and to be like the [TS]

00:26:35 ◼   ► underlying tension and that thus far [TS]

00:26:36 ◼   ► having that up right up to the captain [TS]

00:26:38 ◼   ► america movie which I guess I've seen [TS]

00:26:39 ◼   ► that is what's keeping me watching the [TS]

00:26:41 ◼   ► show I not so much the characters i [TS]

00:26:44 ◼   ► think i'm not interested in the [TS]

00:26:45 ◼   ► characters if i don't think they have [TS]

00:26:46 ◼   ► something to do or some goal to work [TS]

00:26:48 ◼   ► towards see I feel like sky was the [TS]

00:26:50 ◼   ► worst character on the show for the [TS]

00:26:51 ◼   ► first ten episodes and in in like [TS]

00:26:54 ◼   ► episode 10 or 11 somewhere in there [TS]

00:26:56 ◼   ► suddenly I found myself actually liking [TS]

00:26:59 ◼   ► her and it was actually the episode [TS]

00:27:01 ◼   ► where they she gets shot and made I was [TS]

00:27:04 ◼   ► like wait a second I finally like her [TS]

00:27:06 ◼   ► and you kill it but that was like [TS]

00:27:07 ◼   ► finally they did something with her to [TS]

00:27:09 ◼   ► make her interesting and you don't worry [TS]

00:27:10 ◼   ► if you want something a hyperbaric [TS]

00:27:11 ◼   ► chamber that a Syrian shot wounds [TS]

00:27:14 ◼   ► instantly well that you inject them with [TS]

00:27:16 ◼   ► magical you know stuff to that I find [TS]

00:27:19 ◼   ► more believable than quick get her to [TS]

00:27:20 ◼   ► the chamber [TS]

00:27:21 ◼   ► yeah yeah I mean it's almost as if [TS]

00:27:24 ◼   ► there's that moment where they they had [TS]

00:27:27 ◼   ► worked ahead of time and had you know [TS]

00:27:28 ◼   ► several scripts ready to shoot and then [TS]

00:27:31 ◼   ► they came in and said oh we you guys [TS]

00:27:33 ◼   ► need to see Captain America and what [TS]

00:27:35 ◼   ► we're going to do and it's almost as if [TS]

00:27:37 ◼   ► that flip the switch not that they were [TS]

00:27:40 ◼   ► even working towards that twist but just [TS]

00:27:43 ◼   ► to say okay we're not just this weird [TS]

00:27:46 ◼   ► little show we are part of a larger [TS]

00:27:48 ◼   ► universe of things going on and we do [TS]

00:27:50 ◼   ► actually have to have some connection to [TS]

00:27:52 ◼   ► it we can't just be oh yeah I remember [TS]

00:27:56 ◼   ► you just missed the Hulk he was just [TS]

00:27:58 ◼   ► here and you know it did there has to be [TS]

00:28:01 ◼   ► something that ties it into the larger [TS]

00:28:03 ◼   ► universe and you know so going back and [TS]

00:28:07 ◼   ► watching because I mean I gave up before [TS]

00:28:09 ◼   ► 10 episodes I i gave it more episodes [TS]

00:28:12 ◼   ► that i usually give a new show that [TS]

00:28:13 ◼   ► disappoints me and once it started [TS]

00:28:18 ◼   ► getting interesting and and then Jason [TS]

00:28:20 ◼   ► you're one of the ones who said you [TS]

00:28:21 ◼   ► should watch this again i'm alright then [TS]

00:28:24 ◼   ► I went back and sort of i was curious to [TS]

00:28:26 ◼   ► see that progression and go all right [TS]

00:28:28 ◼   ► how did they do that because yeah it's [TS]

00:28:30 ◼   ► still not the greatest show on [TS]

00:28:32 ◼   ► television by any stretch but the last [TS]

00:28:36 ◼   ► five or six episodes if it was the same [TS]

00:28:39 ◼   ► thing it's a show i actually wanted to [TS]

00:28:41 ◼   ► watch the day it was on and I didn't [TS]

00:28:44 ◼   ► want to get spoiled they didn't want to [TS]

00:28:45 ◼   ► fight [TS]

00:28:46 ◼   ► out what happened before I watched it [TS]

00:28:48 ◼   ► and I really enjoyed the last two [TS]

00:28:52 ◼   ► episodes and everyone can be no spoilers [TS]

00:28:55 ◼   ► but just the resolution for the big band [TS]

00:28:59 ◼   ► of the last story arc is the joss whedon [TS]

00:29:02 ◼   ► assist thing Joss Whedon's productions [TS]

00:29:05 ◼   ► have done in years it just put the [TS]

00:29:07 ◼   ► biggest smile on my face [TS]

00:29:09 ◼   ► yeah I feel like I feel like they [TS]

00:29:10 ◼   ► suddenly went to the the joss whedon [TS]

00:29:13 ◼   ► playbook for ya yi at the end of the [TS]

00:29:16 ◼   ► season which makes you wonder why we and [TS]

00:29:19 ◼   ► I've heard people who are fans of of [TS]

00:29:21 ◼   ► Marvel stuff say oh well they know they [TS]

00:29:23 ◼   ► wanted to set this up and then and then [TS]

00:29:25 ◼   ► you know you would [TS]

00:29:26 ◼   ► Coulson's really boring at the beginning [TS]

00:29:28 ◼   ► because they want to resolve historic [TS]

00:29:30 ◼   ► market like well no he's just really [TS]

00:29:31 ◼   ► boring [TS]

00:29:32 ◼   ► that's a terrible acts like malpractice [TS]

00:29:33 ◼   ► to say let's start out and be really bad [TS]

00:29:35 ◼   ► so that then we can surprise people by [TS]

00:29:38 ◼   ► being better later no you don't do that [TS]

00:29:40 ◼   ► you know you come out strong and they [TS]

00:29:42 ◼   ► didn't it is ready the Looney Tunes [TS]

00:29:45 ◼   ► thing where where bugs is watching Daffy [TS]

00:29:47 ◼   ► do something and he says when will that [TS]

00:29:50 ◼   ► silly duck ever remember he can fly and [TS]

00:29:53 ◼   ► Daffy falls is not this time [TS]

00:29:55 ◼   ► ok and it was it was almost as if you [TS]

00:29:57 ◼   ► know when will they remember that every [TS]

00:29:59 ◼   ► Whedon's producing this coming out and [TS]

00:30:02 ◼   ► all of a sudden it's like oh look at [TS]

00:30:04 ◼   ► that but i feel like i got better and [TS]

00:30:05 ◼   ► I'm looking forward to it and they're [TS]

00:30:07 ◼   ► also doing me that they're going to do [TS]

00:30:08 ◼   ► the agent Carter show [TS]

00:30:12 ◼   ► yeah which I'm looking forward to so I [TS]

00:30:14 ◼   ► you know I I they got me back but it was [TS]

00:30:17 ◼   ► it was a close thing because it really [TS]

00:30:19 ◼   ► was the first half of the season was [TS]

00:30:20 ◼   ► really really bad at it was really big [TS]

00:30:24 ◼   ► yeah don't watch it just know start with [TS]

00:30:26 ◼   ► episode 9 or 10 or so night Erica you [TS]

00:30:29 ◼   ► have something I the only other show [TS]

00:30:31 ◼   ► that I have kept up on since you know I [TS]

00:30:34 ◼   ► moved from one country to the other [TS]

00:30:35 ◼   ► which takes up a bit of time yeah the [TS]

00:30:38 ◼   ► only thing I sort of manage to keep over [TS]

00:30:40 ◼   ► that whole time was a season 5 of The [TS]

00:30:42 ◼   ► Good Wife which i stumbledupon when i [TS]

00:30:45 ◼   ► was here in Canada last summer like the [TS]

00:30:48 ◼   ► beginning of the long season and it was [TS]

00:30:51 ◼   ► on demand so I watched a few episodes in [TS]

00:30:54 ◼   ► a row and I liked it and then went back [TS]

00:30:55 ◼   ► to the states I kinda lost track of it [TS]

00:30:57 ◼   ► because we didn't have cable or a PBR [TS]

00:30:59 ◼   ► any [TS]

00:30:59 ◼   ► think so i forgot about it until people [TS]

00:31:02 ◼   ► on Twitter started going crazy with the [TS]

00:31:05 ◼   ► people i follow a very nice they don't [TS]

00:31:06 ◼   ► actually spoil things but they do that [TS]

00:31:08 ◼   ► thing where were they freak out about [TS]

00:31:10 ◼   ► stuff without spoiling it so you know [TS]

00:31:12 ◼   ► something happened and I know a few [TS]

00:31:14 ◼   ► people who watch The Good Wife pretty [TS]

00:31:16 ◼   ► regularly and they were like oh my god I [TS]

00:31:17 ◼   ► can't believe they did that and I was [TS]

00:31:19 ◼   ► like oh I wonder what they did and a few [TS]

00:31:22 ◼   ► weeks later I came back up to Canada [TS]

00:31:23 ◼   ► turns out enough of the episodes were [TS]

00:31:25 ◼   ► still on demand that could pick up from [TS]

00:31:27 ◼   ► where i left off and catch up and find [TS]

00:31:30 ◼   ► out what the holy crap moment was and it [TS]

00:31:34 ◼   ► was it lived up to the the crazy Twitter [TS]

00:31:36 ◼   ► hyper it was pretty intense not going to [TS]

00:31:39 ◼   ► spoil it but I was very glad that I [TS]

00:31:41 ◼   ► jumped back on because I've always been [TS]

00:31:43 ◼   ► a sucker for legal courtroom dramas mean [TS]

00:31:46 ◼   ► way back to like LA Law sucker for that [TS]

00:31:49 ◼   ► so there's a little more I think [TS]

00:31:51 ◼   ► external there's a lot of politics stuff [TS]

00:31:54 ◼   ► in here which I'm not digging quite as [TS]

00:31:56 ◼   ► much but I really really enjoyed this [TS]

00:31:58 ◼   ► season and I had never watched any of [TS]

00:32:00 ◼   ► this show before so this is the first [TS]

00:32:02 ◼   ► time that I jumped on was the beginning [TS]

00:32:04 ◼   ► of season five and I I don't feel any [TS]

00:32:07 ◼   ► interest in particularly going back in [TS]

00:32:08 ◼   ► and watching where it came from I'm [TS]

00:32:10 ◼   ► happy with where I jumped in and i will [TS]

00:32:12 ◼   ► just kind of continue forward from here [TS]

00:32:13 ◼   ► until if they get a forecasted that [TS]

00:32:17 ◼   ► perhaps next season might be a little [TS]

00:32:18 ◼   ► bit more on the politics I'd than the [TS]

00:32:21 ◼   ► courtroom side and if it goes too far in [TS]

00:32:23 ◼   ► that direction i may end up dropping off [TS]

00:32:25 ◼   ► but for now i am highly impressed at the [TS]

00:32:27 ◼   ► quality of the writing and the quality [TS]

00:32:29 ◼   ► of the performances they're getting for [TS]

00:32:31 ◼   ► a show it has 20 some episodes per [TS]

00:32:33 ◼   ► season as opposed to you know your [TS]

00:32:35 ◼   ► orphan Black's your games of Thrones [TS]

00:32:37 ◼   ► sighs well pluralized orphans orphans [TS]

00:32:41 ◼   ► black game I was not I was going to [TS]

00:32:45 ◼   ► bring up a The Good Wife as well which I [TS]

00:32:47 ◼   ► bring I brought up last time we did the [TS]

00:32:49 ◼   ► fall season yes cast and nobody watched [TS]

00:32:52 ◼   ► already a very happy [TS]

00:32:55 ◼   ► Erica get my wife and here she watches [TS]

00:32:57 ◼   ► it I'm in the room when it's on [TS]

00:32:58 ◼   ► sometimes yeah [TS]

00:33:00 ◼   ► make sure you pay attention job it's a [TS]

00:33:02 ◼   ► fantastic show said julianna margulies [TS]

00:33:04 ◼   ► show right [TS]

00:33:05 ◼   ► yeah advance it is and I don't even like [TS]

00:33:06 ◼   ► her but she's really good [TS]

00:33:09 ◼   ► it lives up to the I'm in the room hype [TS]

00:33:11 ◼   ► that's how i started watching it because [TS]

00:33:14 ◼   ► i was in the room when my wife was [TS]

00:33:16 ◼   ► watching it and I couldn't that [TS]

00:33:18 ◼   ► marketing plan [TS]

00:33:19 ◼   ► apparently that's what i lure at least [TS]

00:33:20 ◼   ► men I guess into it [TS]

00:33:22 ◼   ► that's really good finally acted well [TS]

00:33:26 ◼   ► written right and a shocking surprise at [TS]

00:33:29 ◼   ► the end of the season that erica has not [TS]

00:33:31 ◼   ► ruined so i will not either also [TS]

00:33:33 ◼   ► excellent use of music at the beginning [TS]

00:33:35 ◼   ► of every episode there's a montage of [TS]

00:33:38 ◼   ► some sort of that kind of the sets you [TS]

00:33:40 ◼   ► up for what's going to happen in the [TS]

00:33:42 ◼   ► episode and this is another show that [TS]

00:33:44 ◼   ► has you know an arc or multiple arcs [TS]

00:33:46 ◼   ► that sort of span multiple episodes our [TS]

00:33:48 ◼   ► whole season but then you also get the [TS]

00:33:50 ◼   ► the the one-off plot that happens in [TS]

00:33:52 ◼   ► that episode and and that gets set up at [TS]

00:33:55 ◼   ► the beginning with a montage to music [TS]

00:33:57 ◼   ► which is always just unbelievable it's a [TS]

00:33:59 ◼   ► it's a cold open and by the time you get [TS]

00:34:01 ◼   ► to the credits the opening credits [TS]

00:34:03 ◼   ► you're just really really excited to [TS]

00:34:05 ◼   ► watch the rest of the episode usually [TS]

00:34:07 ◼   ► takes about 20 minutes to get to the [TS]

00:34:08 ◼   ► opening credits but yeah that's my [TS]

00:34:10 ◼   ► clinical open just at michael j fox is [TS]

00:34:13 ◼   ► on it so what more do you need to his [TS]

00:34:15 ◼   ► sitcom got cancelled so he shunted over [TS]

00:34:17 ◼   ► the good wife [TS]

00:34:18 ◼   ► yeah he traded up in ya way with no I [TS]

00:34:22 ◼   ► was gonna get you [TS]

00:34:23 ◼   ► what other one of the show's good wife [TS]

00:34:24 ◼   ► is a good one Scott you have something [TS]

00:34:26 ◼   ► that you will want to recommend I i [TS]

00:34:30 ◼   ► watch veep on HBO quite entertaining oh [TS]

00:34:33 ◼   ► yeah with the Julia Louie Dreyfus [TS]

00:34:36 ◼   ► they're kinda could remember hitting the [TS]

00:34:38 ◼   ► lady from seinfeld I like vice president [TS]

00:34:41 ◼   ► lady from seinfeld yes that's right [TS]

00:34:42 ◼   ► that's a great show and that that's a [TS]

00:34:44 ◼   ► follow on from the thick of it which was [TS]

00:34:47 ◼   ► the British to show the same writer [TS]

00:34:49 ◼   ► basically the same creative team and [TS]

00:34:52 ◼   ► that was the show starring peter capaldi [TS]

00:34:54 ◼   ► who was the new doctor who and that that [TS]

00:34:56 ◼   ► is on hulu and is hilarious we watching [TS]

00:34:59 ◼   ► the vestibular that is a fantastic [TS]

00:35:00 ◼   ► filthy language wise anyway political [TS]

00:35:05 ◼   ► series and veep is essentially the [TS]

00:35:06 ◼   ► continuation of that except said in [TS]

00:35:08 ◼   ► America instead of him [TS]

00:35:10 ◼   ► and Britain that's a good one is good [TS]

00:35:14 ◼   ► and Tony Hale is very funny oh yeah yeah [TS]

00:35:17 ◼   ► yeah the whole case and a clubski from [TS]

00:35:19 ◼   ► my girl all grown up is on that show you [TS]

00:35:24 ◼   ► remember micro the mhm yeah she's so she [TS]

00:35:27 ◼   ► says bad words on be this is a lot of [TS]

00:35:31 ◼   ► bad it's a little strange [TS]

00:35:32 ◼   ► it's a little peculiar you know I i [TS]

00:35:35 ◼   ► actually speaking of those HBO comedies [TS]

00:35:37 ◼   ► I i find i want to mention Silicon [TS]

00:35:39 ◼   ► Valley only because i find it funny and [TS]

00:35:41 ◼   ► yet morally reprehensible at the same [TS]

00:35:44 ◼   ► time I find a less money than you do but [TS]

00:35:46 ◼   ► agree on the other part [TS]

00:35:47 ◼   ► alright fair enough i gave it an episode [TS]

00:35:50 ◼   ► and a half and that was all i could take [TS]

00:35:51 ◼   ► its you don't do it for me [TS]

00:35:53 ◼   ► the jokes I i like my judges sense of [TS]

00:35:56 ◼   ► humor i think there are funny jokes and [TS]

00:36:00 ◼   ► I think that it does a good job of [TS]

00:36:02 ◼   ► satirizing some things about the [TS]

00:36:04 ◼   ► technology industry that said there are [TS]

00:36:07 ◼   ► vast swathes of untouched things to [TS]

00:36:10 ◼   ► satirize and I think it says something [TS]

00:36:12 ◼   ► about the show that it doesn't try and [TS]

00:36:15 ◼   ► the oh no I don't think he knows those [TS]

00:36:17 ◼   ► things like yeah it's like such a [TS]

00:36:19 ◼   ► caricature of what you would imagine so [TS]

00:36:21 ◼   ► like values like but clearly not written [TS]

00:36:23 ◼   ► by anybody who actually knows what it's [TS]

00:36:24 ◼   ► like it's like you said there are so [TS]

00:36:25 ◼   ► many things ripe for parody and satire [TS]

00:36:27 ◼   ► but he's not hitting those he's hitting [TS]

00:36:29 ◼   ► like I mean maybe that will make the [TS]

00:36:31 ◼   ► show successful it's like for people who [TS]

00:36:33 ◼   ► don't know what the technology world is [TS]

00:36:36 ◼   ► like this is what they imagine it might [TS]

00:36:38 ◼   ► be like I'm going to satirize the thing [TS]

00:36:39 ◼   ► that they imagined but that's not what [TS]

00:36:41 ◼   ► I'm looking for and and and the the [TS]

00:36:43 ◼   ► treatment of feet i would say the [TS]

00:36:45 ◼   ► treatment of female characters in the [TS]

00:36:46 ◼   ► show but honestly whatever and here's [TS]

00:36:48 ◼   ► yeah there's there was an assistant and [TS]

00:36:51 ◼   ► then later there was a stripper and then [TS]

00:36:54 ◼   ► like eight like seven episodes later [TS]

00:36:57 ◼   ► there was one of the characters [TS]

00:36:58 ◼   ► girlfriend from from Canada actually [TS]

00:37:00 ◼   ► believe and at yes so yeah we got a [TS]

00:37:04 ◼   ► girlfriend a stripper and an assistant [TS]

00:37:06 ◼   ► and you know honestly if there was ever [TS]

00:37:08 ◼   ► anything right for satire the way women [TS]

00:37:10 ◼   ► are treated and technology industry [TS]

00:37:12 ◼   ► would be right there and there are women [TS]

00:37:14 ◼   ► on the writing staff of silicon valley [TS]

00:37:15 ◼   ► which we really baffles me and they have [TS]

00:37:17 ◼   ► this throw one of the characters in the [TS]

00:37:18 ◼   ► house that works for this company is [TS]

00:37:20 ◼   ► that this throwaway character who has [TS]

00:37:22 ◼   ► almost no line [TS]

00:37:23 ◼   ► and uh why that couldn't have been a [TS]

00:37:26 ◼   ► woman and they couldn't have actually [TS]

00:37:28 ◼   ► spent the time satirizing how these [TS]

00:37:29 ◼   ► because the characters are behaving as [TS]

00:37:32 ◼   ► one might expect Silicon Valley type [TS]

00:37:34 ◼   ► characters to behave and if you put a [TS]

00:37:35 ◼   ► woman in the house with them they would [TS]

00:37:37 ◼   ► do lots of terrible things that could be [TS]

00:37:39 ◼   ► ripe for good satire but it's just not [TS]

00:37:41 ◼   ► there [TS]

00:37:41 ◼   ► hey there there are no women in the show [TS]

00:37:43 ◼   ► and it's yeah it's just it's too bad [TS]

00:37:46 ◼   ► because it's it's funny but I i have to [TS]

00:37:49 ◼   ► roll my eyes and shake my head and well [TS]

00:37:52 ◼   ► as I wanted because it is a Miss it's [TS]

00:37:54 ◼   ► funny but it's a real real missed [TS]

00:37:56 ◼   ► opportunity to be funnier and more [TS]

00:37:58 ◼   ► relevant so yeah I think my problem with [TS]

00:38:00 ◼   ► it was just the the fact that for me [TS]

00:38:03 ◼   ► whatever show i'm watching there has to [TS]

00:38:04 ◼   ► be at least one character that I can [TS]

00:38:06 ◼   ► root for and get behind and I didn't [TS]

00:38:08 ◼   ► like anybody so that just did fell flat [TS]

00:38:12 ◼   ► for me [TS]

00:38:12 ◼   ► yeah thinly drawn like even the male [TS]

00:38:14 ◼   ► characters are not flush down like you [TS]

00:38:16 ◼   ► and i think i think i like the [TS]

00:38:17 ◼   ► characters on king of the hill had more [TS]

00:38:19 ◼   ► depth than let me go to go back to Mike [TS]

00:38:22 ◼   ► Judge well iight or even be position but [TS]

00:38:24 ◼   ► i had no idea he was able to identify [TS]

00:38:26 ◼   ► with more whereas these the male [TS]

00:38:28 ◼   ► characters are just like joe klein [TS]

00:38:30 ◼   ► delivery machines with tiny little [TS]

00:38:33 ◼   ► drippings of enough plot to get you [TS]

00:38:35 ◼   ► through the episode enough emotion to [TS]

00:38:37 ◼   ► like or like one note i mean i watch me [TS]

00:38:40 ◼   ► like four or five episodes or maybe it's [TS]

00:38:42 ◼   ► it picks up after a while but it just [TS]

00:38:44 ◼   ► now it's just not working it's of a kind [TS]

00:38:46 ◼   ► it's always kind of like entourage two [TS]

00:38:49 ◼   ► point O in nerd entourage now [TS]

00:38:52 ◼   ► yeah anyway it yeah I I i have found [TS]

00:38:57 ◼   ► humor in the episodes that I've seen and [TS]

00:39:00 ◼   ► yet i think in the end it's a huge [TS]

00:39:02 ◼   ► missed opportunity and yeah so i just [TS]

00:39:05 ◼   ► want to mention that i don't recommend [TS]

00:39:07 ◼   ► it it's not my recommended why do i do [TS]

00:39:09 ◼   ► have one recommended yes please [TS]

00:39:11 ◼   ► is not is not one that I made fun of [TS]

00:39:12 ◼   ► before one thing that's just sort of [TS]

00:39:16 ◼   ► blown my mind that that anybody got away [TS]

00:39:18 ◼   ► with making it is fargo which finished [TS]

00:39:22 ◼   ► up just as we started recording tonight [TS]

00:39:24 ◼   ► ten episodes of just I don't know it's [TS]

00:39:28 ◼   ► it's sort of this tightrope between [TS]

00:39:29 ◼   ► paying homage to the coen brothers film [TS]

00:39:32 ◼   ► and then answering little coen brothers [TS]

00:39:35 ◼   ► references throughout to other films but [TS]

00:39:38 ◼   ► somehow creating well-rounded [TS]

00:39:41 ◼   ► interesting characters separate from [TS]

00:39:44 ◼   ► that and you don't really think about [TS]

00:39:46 ◼   ► the movie and you get to watch martin [TS]

00:39:48 ◼   ► freeman being evil which is wonderful [TS]

00:39:50 ◼   ► and and billy bob thornton being billy [TS]

00:39:55 ◼   ► bob thornton and but they're just it's i [TS]

00:39:59 ◼   ► mean it's beautifully written [TS]

00:40:00 ◼   ► beautifully shot there's several [TS]

00:40:05 ◼   ► shootouts that are just tremendously [TS]

00:40:08 ◼   ► filmed just beautifully staged one of [TS]

00:40:10 ◼   ► which one of them i I'm I'm sure part of [TS]

00:40:13 ◼   ► it was just to save money but the camera [TS]

00:40:16 ◼   ► stays outside this building the entire [TS]

00:40:18 ◼   ► time and tracks along as billy bob [TS]

00:40:20 ◼   ► thornton is inside shooting people right [TS]

00:40:23 ◼   ► and left and then so you'll see like the [TS]

00:40:25 ◼   ► flash of the above again going off in a [TS]

00:40:27 ◼   ► window and you'll hear the voices and [TS]

00:40:30 ◼   ► everything but you don't see anything [TS]

00:40:32 ◼   ► until someone finally flies out the [TS]

00:40:34 ◼   ► window near the end of the sequence [TS]

00:40:36 ◼   ► it's amazing it's beautifully done and i [TS]

00:40:38 ◼   ► have i'm convinced that was purely a [TS]

00:40:40 ◼   ► budget thing you know they thought hey [TS]

00:40:42 ◼   ► this would be a really cool way to shoot [TS]

00:40:44 ◼   ► up a massacre in a building [TS]

00:40:47 ◼   ► I'm really making it sound fun aren't I [TS]

00:40:50 ◼   ► what else [TS]

00:40:52 ◼   ► no but the the nice thing about it [TS]

00:40:56 ◼   ► unlike a lot of the anti-hero shows you [TS]

00:40:59 ◼   ► know breaking bad was there is a real [TS]

00:41:03 ◼   ► counterbalance of good smart people [TS]

00:41:06 ◼   ► fighting the smart bad people and and [TS]

00:41:11 ◼   ► just sort of a baseline decency to the [TS]

00:41:14 ◼   ► world and see you you really get to see [TS]

00:41:18 ◼   ► the anti-heroes pervert that instead of [TS]

00:41:21 ◼   ► you know going hey go Walter White [TS]

00:41:25 ◼   ► a which i think is really interesting [TS]

00:41:27 ◼   ► compared to a lot of the breaking bad on [TS]

00:41:32 ◼   ► the shield and you all these things were [TS]

00:41:34 ◼   ► you rooting for the bad guy in this one [TS]

00:41:35 ◼   ► theory there are actually good smart [TS]

00:41:38 ◼   ► people to root for [TS]

00:41:39 ◼   ► so it's just it's it's well worth taking [TS]

00:41:42 ◼   ► a look at but i will i will say it is a [TS]

00:41:46 ◼   ► little bit more graphic than it needs to [TS]

00:41:48 ◼   ► be sometimes they could do a lot more [TS]

00:41:50 ◼   ► with off-screen what would you say for [TS]

00:41:53 ◼   ► somebody who really did not like that [TS]

00:41:54 ◼   ► movie still worth checking out [TS]

00:41:58 ◼   ► it's perfect for you well if you like [TS]

00:42:00 ◼   ► martin freeman i do what if you like [TS]

00:42:03 ◼   ► Martin Freeman a lot but you're really [TS]

00:42:04 ◼   ► don't like billy bob thornton don't do [TS]

00:42:07 ◼   ► it don't do it okay [TS]

00:42:09 ◼   ► that's where am I haven't seen it but [TS]

00:42:12 ◼   ► mr. Philip Michaels who by all accounts [TS]

00:42:16 ◼   ► would like a show like this i know he [TS]

00:42:19 ◼   ► watched the pilot and his review of it [TS]

00:42:20 ◼   ► on Twitter largely consisted of the word [TS]

00:42:23 ◼   ► hated like as many times as you treated [TS]

00:42:26 ◼   ► in a tweet across several tweets and [TS]

00:42:28 ◼   ► that scared me off i think we've got [TS]

00:42:29 ◼   ► them all sitting on the DVR and I'm just [TS]

00:42:31 ◼   ► a little concerned because that's what [TS]

00:42:34 ◼   ► that was some real anger that he brought [TS]

00:42:36 ◼   ► to bear on the Fargo pilot it's really [TS]

00:42:39 ◼   ► the fourth episode where it it's [TS]

00:42:40 ◼   ► suddenly because you get to the point [TS]

00:42:42 ◼   ► you go where are they going [TS]

00:42:44 ◼   ► it is is this a thing is this something [TS]

00:42:46 ◼   ► in an episode for it just sort of flip [TS]

00:42:49 ◼   ► again flips the switch and elevates it [TS]

00:42:50 ◼   ► into its own thing yeah so I mean I'm i [TS]

00:42:56 ◼   ► see what he means and and yet it is a in [TS]

00:42:58 ◼   ► response to much it's sort of like they [TS]

00:43:01 ◼   ► could have done a lot more with offstage [TS]

00:43:03 ◼   ► things you know we don't need to see [TS]

00:43:07 ◼   ► graphic violence you know and and so [TS]

00:43:10 ◼   ► that's why i like that but when shootout [TS]

00:43:11 ◼   ► sequence is really amazing because you [TS]

00:43:14 ◼   ► still get all the violence but you don't [TS]

00:43:16 ◼   ► get to see it you you imagine it's going [TS]

00:43:17 ◼   ► to be much worse than anything they [TS]

00:43:19 ◼   ► could show you which is nice so yeah [TS]

00:43:22 ◼   ► it's i would say give it a try if you [TS]

00:43:25 ◼   ► don't like it by the end of the fourth [TS]

00:43:27 ◼   ► one walk away and if you don't like [TS]

00:43:29 ◼   ► billy bob thornton just run right it [TS]

00:43:34 ◼   ► don't even walk up [TS]

00:43:36 ◼   ► now because he's coming for you better [TS]

00:43:38 ◼   ► run did we already talked about the [TS]

00:43:40 ◼   ► walking dead on a previous show no not [TS]

00:43:42 ◼   ► we have talked about that in a while but [TS]

00:43:44 ◼   ► I'm us a full season ba and I'll give [TS]

00:43:48 ◼   ► you the but they be tiny capsule summer [TS]

00:43:50 ◼   ► without spoiling the most recent season [TS]

00:43:51 ◼   ► I i liked it i thought it was a [TS]

00:43:54 ◼   ► refreshing change of pace in terms of [TS]

00:43:55 ◼   ► structuring the episodes i even though [TS]

00:43:58 ◼   ► the arc for the season could also be [TS]

00:44:00 ◼   ► argued that nothing really happens they [TS]

00:44:02 ◼   ► don't go anywhere just such a nice [TS]

00:44:04 ◼   ► change instead of you know if you've [TS]

00:44:06 ◼   ► seen the prison season right Jason 30 so [TS]

00:44:08 ◼   ► that that whole run was kind of like [TS]

00:44:11 ◼   ► started to feel a little claustrophobic [TS]

00:44:12 ◼   ► in terms of this structure and the [TS]

00:44:14 ◼   ► storytelling and how did each episode it [TS]

00:44:16 ◼   ► was just nice to break out of that so I [TS]

00:44:19 ◼   ► think I think you really enjoy the [TS]

00:44:21 ◼   ► season even though it ends on monday [TS]

00:44:22 ◼   ► always been a cliffhanger whatever [TS]

00:44:24 ◼   ► certain way that you know they things [TS]

00:44:26 ◼   ► come to a head in the season ends [TS]

00:44:27 ◼   ► because that's that's the formula which [TS]

00:44:29 ◼   ► is fine i thought that was a little bit [TS]

00:44:31 ◼   ► silly but I i enjoyed the trip of the [TS]

00:44:33 ◼   ► season it felt like if I kind of a [TS]

00:44:35 ◼   ► vacation for you know for a show about [TS]

00:44:37 ◼   ► zombies constantly killing people and [TS]

00:44:38 ◼   ► did we talk about trutech now I was [TS]

00:44:40 ◼   ► going to say I i should mention true [TS]

00:44:41 ◼   ► detective which probably could could [TS]

00:44:43 ◼   ► withstand a series of podcasts on their [TS]

00:44:45 ◼   ► own not just don't even just one episode [TS]

00:44:47 ◼   ► of all on its own to just mention in it [TS]

00:44:50 ◼   ► i'm interested in you know what you [TS]

00:44:52 ◼   ► thought of it and anybody who watched it [TS]

00:44:53 ◼   ► I watched it all like two months after [TS]

00:44:56 ◼   ► it aired and so I didn't have any of the [TS]

00:45:02 ◼   ► water cooler conversation I didn't have [TS]

00:45:04 ◼   ► any of the build-up to the final episode [TS]

00:45:06 ◼   ► we watched it sort of every night or [TS]

00:45:09 ◼   ► every other night over the course of a [TS]

00:45:10 ◼   ► couple weeks and I enjoyed the whole [TS]

00:45:13 ◼   ► thing but I didn't you [TS]

00:45:17 ◼   ► my understanding is that it the last [TS]

00:45:19 ◼   ► episode everybody kind of built up that [TS]

00:45:21 ◼   ► and had theories about what it was going [TS]

00:45:22 ◼   ► to be and all that stuff and then a lot [TS]

00:45:24 ◼   ► of people were disappointed i gotta say [TS]

00:45:26 ◼   ► outside of the the bubble of everybody [TS]

00:45:30 ◼   ► having putting all their expert [TS]

00:45:31 ◼   ► expectations in a basket and just [TS]

00:45:33 ◼   ► watching it is something that you know [TS]

00:45:35 ◼   ► in in a vacuum it was just enjoyable and [TS]

00:45:37 ◼   ► and riveting I couldn't take my eyes off [TS]

00:45:39 ◼   ► of it for the entire run some good [TS]

00:45:42 ◼   ► actors huh [TS]

00:45:43 ◼   ► it's a pretty polly doing you to make [TS]

00:45:45 ◼   ► them only to a one-season commitment you [TS]

00:45:46 ◼   ► get some good actor [TS]

00:45:47 ◼   ► no John I gotta say if you had told me [TS]

00:45:49 ◼   ► like eight years ago that there's going [TS]

00:45:50 ◼   ► to be a really serious HBO drama and [TS]

00:45:52 ◼   ► it's gonna start woody harrelson and [TS]

00:45:54 ◼   ► Matthew McConaughey I'd be like well [TS]

00:45:56 ◼   ► that's a flop is it about like a retired [TS]

00:45:58 ◼   ► baseball player who's gonna take it one [TS]

00:46:00 ◼   ► more try something like that well that [TS]

00:46:02 ◼   ► didn't ask Matthew McConaughey to do [TS]

00:46:04 ◼   ► much other than B Matthew McConaughey [TS]

00:46:05 ◼   ► but he's a really good Matthew [TS]

00:46:06 ◼   ► McConaughey like when he does that thing [TS]

00:46:07 ◼   ► and he's all you know something like [TS]

00:46:10 ◼   ► that [TS]

00:46:10 ◼   ► I thought the I mean that's the thing [TS]

00:46:12 ◼   ► with the people to theories in the [TS]

00:46:13 ◼   ► arcade like wait like everyone knew this [TS]

00:46:16 ◼   ► was going to be a single-season thing [TS]

00:46:17 ◼   ► you know it's not going to be like oh [TS]

00:46:18 ◼   ► this essential mystery is like going to [TS]

00:46:20 ◼   ► like what about this secret [TS]

00:46:21 ◼   ► organizations likely you have time to do [TS]

00:46:23 ◼   ► that you're not going to wrap that up in [TS]

00:46:24 ◼   ► a season the whole show was always about [TS]

00:46:26 ◼   ► the characters and they just focus on [TS]

00:46:27 ◼   ► them relentlessly like it was just the [TS]

00:46:29 ◼   ► cameras were in their faces every you [TS]

00:46:31 ◼   ► know episode after episode there weren't [TS]

00:46:33 ◼   ► even that many characters like our main [TS]

00:46:35 ◼   ► characters and like associated [TS]

00:46:37 ◼   ► girlfriends and bosses and coworkers and [TS]

00:46:39 ◼   ► the handful of antagonists and then you [TS]

00:46:41 ◼   ► know the silent humid Menace of the [TS]

00:46:44 ◼   ► South I guess it worked for me [TS]

00:46:47 ◼   ► yeah it's actually the actors that have [TS]

00:46:49 ◼   ► kept me away from it it's so if it's [TS]

00:46:50 ◼   ► really just focusing on those characters [TS]

00:46:52 ◼   ► I i think i will steer clear because if [TS]

00:46:55 ◼   ► there's one person I like less than [TS]

00:46:57 ◼   ► billy-bob thornton is woody harrelson [TS]

00:46:58 ◼   ► gonna see your black book of actors here [TS]

00:47:00 ◼   ► that you can see that really thought [TS]

00:47:02 ◼   ► about throwing a good actor [TS]

00:47:04 ◼   ► oh he's really good don't get me wrong i [TS]

00:47:05 ◼   ► think he's fantastic at what he does [TS]

00:47:07 ◼   ► it's just almost always I don't like [TS]

00:47:09 ◼   ► that type of character [TS]

00:47:11 ◼   ► same thing with woody harrelson and [TS]

00:47:13 ◼   ► Matthew McConaughey could kind of go [TS]

00:47:15 ◼   ► either way for me i'm not a woody [TS]

00:47:17 ◼   ► harrelson fan at all and I thought it [TS]

00:47:18 ◼   ► was great i thought it was I thought it [TS]

00:47:20 ◼   ► was perfect because i think it's a [TS]

00:47:21 ◼   ► perfect match of material with the [TS]

00:47:23 ◼   ► actors like they're they are perfectly [TS]

00:47:25 ◼   ► cast the the material you know if it [TS]

00:47:27 ◼   ► wasn't written for them than it was [TS]

00:47:30 ◼   ► they were perfectly selected to perform [TS]

00:47:31 ◼   ► it and that that's that goes a long way [TS]

00:47:34 ◼   ► even an even if an actor is not somebody [TS]

00:47:36 ◼   ► you like and you like to still like the [TS]

00:47:39 ◼   ► stuff they do every now and then they [TS]

00:47:41 ◼   ► you know if they're in the right thing [TS]

00:47:43 ◼   ► they can be amazing and Woody [TS]

00:47:46 ◼   ► Harrelson's a perfect example i do I [TS]

00:47:48 ◼   ► don't like him as an actor and he's [TS]

00:47:50 ◼   ► great [TS]

00:47:51 ◼   ► true detective you think true detective [TS]

00:47:53 ◼   ► was kind of at [TS]

00:47:54 ◼   ► aimed at men more or less likely the [TS]

00:47:58 ◼   ► tanks that these characters feel we have [TS]

00:48:00 ◼   ► a responsibility they feel like they [TS]

00:48:02 ◼   ► just it is it is a show the story of [TS]

00:48:04 ◼   ► nurturing man for men like it totally [TS]

00:48:06 ◼   ► spoke to me on that level and I could [TS]

00:48:08 ◼   ► imagine the women not relating as much [TS]

00:48:10 ◼   ► because I mean right that I don't again [TS]

00:48:12 ◼   ► this like the women are just the wives [TS]

00:48:14 ◼   ► in the show but this is all about like [TS]

00:48:15 ◼   ► these people's lives and where they're [TS]

00:48:17 ◼   ► on their lives and the framing device [TS]

00:48:19 ◼   ► was was clever and let's see and like it [TS]

00:48:22 ◼   ► you know I I'd something it was a show [TS]

00:48:24 ◼   ► made for us I think that's why we got [TS]

00:48:25 ◼   ► like you know I I didn't dislike it I [TS]

00:48:30 ◼   ► haven't finished it because I ambivalent [TS]

00:48:32 ◼   ► about it and I don't really care how to [TS]

00:48:34 ◼   ► end so i can be attached three episodes [TS]

00:48:36 ◼   ► maybe an electrode it's got well now I [TS]

00:48:42 ◼   ► don't have to watch the rescue your [TS]

00:48:44 ◼   ► ranks may be of a different stripe Scott [TS]

00:48:46 ◼   ► so maybe that's not speaking the same [TS]

00:48:48 ◼   ► level III think it's it's pretty clear [TS]

00:48:51 ◼   ► that my eggs is quite different than [TS]

00:48:52 ◼   ► those kids everything I like the decay [TS]

00:48:57 ◼   ► and it that these are these are people [TS]

00:48:59 ◼   ► who have a mean it's not like these are [TS]

00:49:01 ◼   ► people who are unraveling the way it's [TS]

00:49:02 ◼   ► structured these are people who have [TS]

00:49:03 ◼   ► unraveled and you're going to talk and [TS]

00:49:06 ◼   ► then and then we need multiple timeframe [TS]

00:49:08 ◼   ► flashback things you're going to see [TS]

00:49:11 ◼   ► them before they unravel door before one [TS]

00:49:14 ◼   ► of them unraveled all the way and before [TS]

00:49:16 ◼   ► the other one unraveled at all and that [TS]

00:49:17 ◼   ► and then you see them fall apart further [TS]

00:49:19 ◼   ► and then you see them after they have [TS]

00:49:22 ◼   ► unraveled and what happens then which I [TS]

00:49:24 ◼   ► i found that fascinating that it's not [TS]

00:49:25 ◼   ► just that the oppressive heat and [TS]

00:49:28 ◼   ► decaying atmosphere of of the bottom of [TS]

00:49:32 ◼   ► the swamp but it's also the oppressive [TS]

00:49:34 ◼   ► decaying lives of these people that and [TS]

00:49:36 ◼   ► they fall apart for a reason like oh [TS]

00:49:38 ◼   ► yeah I go there was you know or it's not [TS]

00:49:40 ◼   ► just like a little give me like all that [TS]

00:49:41 ◼   ► gonna be busy all what you like to get [TS]

00:49:43 ◼   ► there you know it's just their they're [TS]

00:49:45 ◼   ► kinda they start with the same an insane [TS]

00:49:47 ◼   ► world and eventually end up is insane [TS]

00:49:49 ◼   ► man and inseparable the corruption and [TS]

00:49:51 ◼   ► like the evil that's down there and just [TS]

00:49:53 ◼   ► and repressed things in their own lives [TS]

00:49:56 ◼   ► that have just been sitting there like [TS]

00:49:57 ◼   ► time bombs waiting to go off in like the [TS]

00:49:59 ◼   ► combination of them together just causes [TS]

00:50:02 ◼   ► more destruction not an uplifting show [TS]

00:50:05 ◼   ► people I like that it is not i mean i [TS]

00:50:07 ◼   ► like [TS]

00:50:08 ◼   ► the acting I loved the look of it but [TS]

00:50:10 ◼   ► the whole time I kept thinking wow [TS]

00:50:12 ◼   ► you've read a lot of James Lee Burke [TS]

00:50:13 ◼   ► novels awesome you know and and it just [TS]

00:50:17 ◼   ► made me want to see a James Lee Burke [TS]

00:50:19 ◼   ► adaptation done well without that they [TS]

00:50:22 ◼   ► should just move the canada that will [TS]

00:50:23 ◼   ► solve all their problems [TS]

00:50:24 ◼   ► speak ya vermont i mean come on just get [TS]

00:50:28 ◼   ► back out of the above the mason-dixon [TS]

00:50:29 ◼   ► line out of the bayou [TS]

00:50:31 ◼   ► everything will be better yeah no other [TS]

00:50:34 ◼   ► shows before we shift gears to two [TS]

00:50:36 ◼   ► people with swords getting their heads [TS]

00:50:38 ◼   ► cut off [TS]

00:50:38 ◼   ► I still enjoyed a whole season of the [TS]

00:50:41 ◼   ► blacklist how I still haven't watched [TS]

00:50:43 ◼   ► that that's one that's on my list [TS]

00:50:44 ◼   ► because I pretty likely he'll watch [TS]

00:50:46 ◼   ► anything with james spader and it just [TS]

00:50:48 ◼   ► haven't gotten around to it yet he is at [TS]

00:50:49 ◼   ► his james spader easiest yes James [TS]

00:50:52 ◼   ► Spader actually hurts [TS]

00:50:53 ◼   ► matthew mcconaughey and and billy bob [TS]

00:50:56 ◼   ► thornton no i-i've noticing no no that's [TS]

00:50:58 ◼   ► terrible friend [TS]

00:51:00 ◼   ► yeah yeah i like to shake things up well [TS]

00:51:03 ◼   ► if you like Spader being Spader there is [TS]

00:51:05 ◼   ► no nothing more spidery then the [TS]

00:51:07 ◼   ► blacklist it's literally feel Michael [TS]

00:51:10 ◼   ► and I were talking about this because I [TS]

00:51:11 ◼   ► think he recapped this for television [TS]

00:51:13 ◼   ► without pity before it went out of [TS]

00:51:14 ◼   ► business is literally the show is [TS]

00:51:17 ◼   ► there's a lady who works for the I don't [TS]

00:51:21 ◼   ► know CIA FBI ya f FBA OS CBI I don't [TS]

00:51:27 ◼   ► know [TS]

00:51:28 ◼   ► and then there are they're criminals and [TS]

00:51:29 ◼   ► their crimes and they measure of solvent [TS]

00:51:31 ◼   ► literally the point of the show is that [TS]

00:51:33 ◼   ► at some point James Spader appears and [TS]

00:51:36 ◼   ► he does his spider thing and then he [TS]

00:51:39 ◼   ► goes away again and maybe comes back a [TS]

00:51:41 ◼   ► couple of times but it's like literally [TS]

00:51:42 ◼   ► he parachutes in and it's like full [TS]

00:51:44 ◼   ► intense Spader and then he's gone again [TS]

00:51:46 ◼   ► and it's actually man its baby does [TS]

00:51:49 ◼   ► whatever james spader can which is a lot [TS]

00:51:52 ◼   ► and and it's kind of I its kind of [TS]

00:51:55 ◼   ► brilliant because it is it is like hey [TS]

00:51:57 ◼   ► you want to show with james spader in it [TS]

00:51:59 ◼   ► but you don't want to be overwhelmed by [TS]

00:52:00 ◼   ► james spader we got the mixture right [TS]

00:52:02 ◼   ► with the black list and they kind of do [TS]

00:52:03 ◼   ► i have to admit that like certain plot [TS]

00:52:05 ◼   ► points i think have been spoiled for me [TS]

00:52:07 ◼   ► simply because I've seen the promos on [TS]

00:52:09 ◼   ► Canadian television but I'm still [TS]

00:52:12 ◼   ► interested enough that i had planned to [TS]

00:52:14 ◼   ► go back and watch from the beginning [TS]

00:52:15 ◼   ► eventually well it's a lot of fun with a [TS]

00:52:18 ◼   ► lot of gruesome crimes that happen [TS]

00:52:19 ◼   ► james spader being brilliant and it [TS]

00:52:23 ◼   ► towards the end of last couple of [TS]

00:52:25 ◼   ► episodes a lad add some layers and some [TS]

00:52:29 ◼   ► things happen that make it interesting [TS]

00:52:30 ◼   ► and if you use an evil Alan Alda so [TS]

00:52:33 ◼   ► really I'm gonna come on i am sold [TS]

00:52:36 ◼   ► speaking of actors I can't watch reviews [TS]

00:52:38 ◼   ► didn't used to watch i still love [TS]

00:52:41 ◼   ► Brooklyn nine-nine [TS]

00:52:42 ◼   ► despite the fact that I've never been a [TS]

00:52:44 ◼   ► fan of andy samberg yes that's my [TS]

00:52:46 ◼   ► favorite sitcom on the air and I don't [TS]

00:52:48 ◼   ► like Andy Samberg here but he's paying [TS]

00:52:49 ◼   ► attention when it's got a great ensemble [TS]

00:52:51 ◼   ► and I mean just putting him against [TS]

00:52:52 ◼   ► Andre miss scrutiny Samberg [TS]

00:52:55 ◼   ► yeah he's always know James Spader no no [TS]

00:52:58 ◼   ► Franklin nine that would be so much [TS]

00:53:00 ◼   ► better if James Spader were in it haha [TS]

00:53:02 ◼   ► i'll but the office of the office [TS]

00:53:05 ◼   ► mushrooms and andre and Andre Braugher [TS]

00:53:08 ◼   ► is it and I can't believe I'm saying [TS]

00:53:12 ◼   ► this is hilarious in brooklyn and it's [TS]

00:53:14 ◼   ► such a great use of Andre Braugher and [TS]

00:53:16 ◼   ► if you remember him from homicide [TS]

00:53:18 ◼   ► it's just an extra layer because he's [TS]

00:53:20 ◼   ► essentially essentially playing you know [TS]

00:53:22 ◼   ► serious cop character like on homicide [TS]

00:53:24 ◼   ► except he is the straight man for a [TS]

00:53:27 ◼   ► series of ridiculous jokes and it's just [TS]

00:53:30 ◼   ► it's a great i love that show that is my [TS]

00:53:32 ◼   ► that is absolutely far away my favorite [TS]

00:53:34 ◼   ► come on do it knowing how the creator's [TS]

00:53:36 ◼   ► love homicide and the wire [TS]

00:53:39 ◼   ► I mean they've got comedy McNulty vs [TS]

00:53:41 ◼   ► common comedy Pembleton which is yeah [TS]

00:53:43 ◼   ► brilliant you know it's comedy its [TS]

00:53:46 ◼   ► comedy [TS]

00:53:46 ◼   ► yeah definitely worth checking out I [TS]

00:53:50 ◼   ► start watching Bob's Burgers because [TS]

00:53:53 ◼   ► everybody said I should watch it on its [TS]

00:53:54 ◼   ► funny [TS]

00:53:55 ◼   ► yeah I got I got hooked on that last [TS]

00:53:58 ◼   ► year when i was sick in bed for like two [TS]

00:54:01 ◼   ► days mainlines the whole first and [TS]

00:54:03 ◼   ► second seasons i was hooked right any [TS]

00:54:06 ◼   ► last words of other other shows [TS]

00:54:08 ◼   ► how's that masters of sex come in there [TS]

00:54:09 ◼   ► scott i watch that a oh alright it's [TS]

00:54:15 ◼   ► over [TS]

00:54:16 ◼   ► well the first season's over there and [TS]

00:54:19 ◼   ► it was fine i just have a memory of you [TS]

00:54:22 ◼   ► recommending it and that's making jokes [TS]

00:54:24 ◼   ► some guy I can't remember how it ends [TS]

00:54:26 ◼   ► frankly but i think every everyone was [TS]

00:54:29 ◼   ► satisfied [TS]

00:54:30 ◼   ► take that I could ask for nothing more [TS]

00:54:33 ◼   ► from that show that everybody getting [TS]

00:54:35 ◼   ► some satisfaction at the end and the [TS]

00:54:37 ◼   ► only other thing I've been watching has [TS]

00:54:38 ◼   ► been pretty much reality cooking shows [TS]

00:54:41 ◼   ► and john oliver's new HBO show all i got [TS]

00:54:44 ◼   ► a lot of fun quite like I'm enjoying [TS]

00:54:46 ◼   ► that that do i only see John Oliver show [TS]

00:54:48 ◼   ► in the YouTube clips that make it to my [TS]

00:54:50 ◼   ► Twitter feed but those I enjoy it's a [TS]

00:54:52 ◼   ► good it's good actually was it when he [TS]

00:54:54 ◼   ► took over the Daily Show last summer [TS]

00:54:55 ◼   ► when Jon Stewart shooting his movie i [TS]

00:54:58 ◼   ► started watching because i wasn't his [TS]

00:55:00 ◼   ► podcast beautiful which is an excellent [TS]

00:55:01 ◼   ► podcast and I really enjoyed it and [TS]

00:55:04 ◼   ► what's happened since then as I now [TS]

00:55:06 ◼   ► record the daily show and we'll watch [TS]

00:55:09 ◼   ► those at least we'll watch the first [TS]

00:55:11 ◼   ► segment or two of almost every episode [TS]

00:55:14 ◼   ► of The Daily Show plus now the John [TS]

00:55:15 ◼   ► Oliver HBO show so that's that's uh I'm [TS]

00:55:19 ◼   ► kind of grateful that I've gotten back [TS]

00:55:21 ◼   ► into into the daily show and now the [TS]

00:55:23 ◼   ► John Oliver show is essentially like a [TS]

00:55:25 ◼   ► very compressed extended expansive Daily [TS]

00:55:30 ◼   ► Show which I'm wearing [TS]

00:55:31 ◼   ► well yeah which with swearing and people [TS]

00:55:33 ◼   ► are like why can't I be saying bad words [TS]

00:55:35 ◼   ► like well if you listen to the buccal he [TS]

00:55:37 ◼   ► says all the bad words but i like about [TS]

00:55:39 ◼   ► it is he seems to be having these longer [TS]

00:55:41 ◼   ► pieces that get excerpted on youtube [TS]

00:55:43 ◼   ► that are you know they feel more [TS]

00:55:45 ◼   ► carefully constructed and have more [TS]

00:55:49 ◼   ► depth than your everyday because you [TS]

00:55:52 ◼   ► can't do that if you're doing four shows [TS]

00:55:53 ◼   ► a week on comedy central [TS]

00:55:55 ◼   ► so I i can feel that they're spending [TS]

00:55:57 ◼   ► more time writing and researching the [TS]

00:55:59 ◼   ► pieces that they're doing then they [TS]

00:56:02 ◼   ► would with your average daily show piece [TS]

00:56:04 ◼   ► and it's also run by a former Daily Show [TS]

00:56:06 ◼   ► head writer too so it's it's very much [TS]

00:56:08 ◼   ► the same DNA is through the show ya sty [TS]

00:56:12 ◼   ► what I would love them to experiment [TS]

00:56:14 ◼   ► with that format and not just be the [TS]

00:56:16 ◼   ► daily show on sunday night on a gel well [TS]

00:56:19 ◼   ► they've got that the danger of SNL [TS]

00:56:21 ◼   ► effect when you have all week to come up [TS]

00:56:22 ◼   ► with it and you're so sure this route [TS]

00:56:24 ◼   ► this segment is gonna be awesome and you [TS]

00:56:25 ◼   ► make it long if it's not good and gabby [TS]

00:56:28 ◼   ► from the first two minutes you just got [TS]

00:56:29 ◼   ► to go through with it anyways whereas [TS]

00:56:31 ◼   ► Daily Show has has bumps segments their [TS]

00:56:33 ◼   ► 30 seconds long you're in around four or [TS]

00:56:35 ◼   ► it's like like weekend update on SNL now [TS]

00:56:38 ◼   ► half the time the jokes the pop-up I've [TS]

00:56:41 ◼   ► already seen like 50 times on Twitter [TS]

00:56:42 ◼   ► during the week [TS]

00:56:43 ◼   ► because you're all funny to you know or [TS]

00:56:46 ◼   ► family you're late again or The Daily [TS]

00:56:49 ◼   ► Show got to them for the exam is that we [TS]

00:56:52 ◼   ► get updated just poor man's you know [TS]

00:56:54 ◼   ► Daily Show type thing that was the [TS]

00:56:56 ◼   ► myself John Oliver was on Seth Meyers uh [TS]

00:56:58 ◼   ► Late Night with Seth Meyers and I [TS]

00:57:00 ◼   ► recorded it and they pointed out that [TS]

00:57:02 ◼   ► their jobs have reversed because now [TS]

00:57:04 ◼   ► Seth Meyers has to make jokes every day [TS]

00:57:06 ◼   ► and John Oliver has to sit back for a [TS]

00:57:08 ◼   ► week and what John Oliver says yeah it's [TS]

00:57:09 ◼   ► really weird if you screw something up [TS]

00:57:11 ◼   ► you gotta sit there and still on it for [TS]

00:57:13 ◼   ► an entire week whereas if it's you know [TS]

00:57:15 ◼   ► you just come back the next day and get [TS]

00:57:17 ◼   ► it right if you're on a daily show [TS]

00:57:19 ◼   ► anyway John Oliver's funny guy and [TS]

00:57:22 ◼   ► that's a good show and he does a bad [TS]

00:57:24 ◼   ► where he doesn't count if you say them [TS]

00:57:27 ◼   ► in a British accent although i will say [TS]

00:57:28 ◼   ► this the bugle bleeps out too bad words [TS]

00:57:32 ◼   ► and I'm they did that because they were [TS]

00:57:35 ◼   ► originally on The Times of London I [TS]

00:57:37 ◼   ► think website and even though they're [TS]

00:57:39 ◼   ► independent they keep bleeping them and [TS]

00:57:40 ◼   ► they say it's because it's funnier and i [TS]

00:57:42 ◼   ► think it is I actually think it's [TS]

00:57:44 ◼   ► funnier with the bleeps and that HBO [TS]