Roderick on the Line

Ep. 227: "Fifth Knob"


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00:00:21   hello hey John I Merlin how's it going [TS]

00:00:26   good [TS]

00:00:32   re well alright here's Andres do I can [TS]

00:00:37   you subdue yeah yeah I got in the groove [TS]

00:00:42   with them the kind of a kind of Public [TS]

00:00:45   Radio discussion [TS]

00:00:47   [Music] [TS]

00:00:50   you got those before yeah you can do it [TS]

00:00:52   i turn my volume down to my too low [TS]

00:00:57   no good ok I were worried about [TS]

00:00:59   overdriving why because i like to keep a [TS]

00:01:05   certain tone of the show and I don't [TS]

00:01:09   really have skills with the microphone [TS]

00:01:11   now I see what is the tone you like to [TS]

00:01:15   keep the show I like to stay in the [TS]

00:01:19   moment huh [TS]

00:01:21   that's my tuna uh-huh I'm yeah I'm here [TS]

00:01:25   for whatever comes along you know [TS]

00:01:26   whatever happens but yesterday the [TS]

00:01:28   moment is right [TS]

00:01:28   not a sound really quiet you do yeah why [TS]

00:01:31   you worried about overdriving always [TS]

00:01:35   felt like you know because you did you [TS]

00:01:37   drive the boat because you're the [TS]

00:01:38   subcommander [TS]

00:01:39   yeah you always can set the levels [TS]

00:01:42   however you like [TS]

00:01:43   yeah that's true fixing host as they say [TS]

00:01:45   any pics and post for all I know you've [TS]

00:01:50   been putting some even putting some word [TS]

00:01:52   filter on me all these years [TS]

00:01:53   alright like that are you put the wall [TS]

00:01:57   pedal on me you could've been fucking [TS]

00:01:59   with me this entire time [TS]

00:02:00   no no I make sure you always sound very [TS]

00:02:02   dignified so you you have a dignified [TS]

00:02:04   performance and then I try to keep your [TS]

00:02:06   I don't cut out the snorts or anything [TS]

00:02:08   cause I think that's part of the show [TS]

00:02:09   you have said you said a mouthful [TS]

00:02:12   mhm keep the snorts snorts snorts are [TS]

00:02:20   part of the show [TS]

00:02:21   that's our motto my curses i do listen [TS]

00:02:23   to the show and so I here when I say [TS]

00:02:25   things wrong [TS]

00:02:27   I here when i accidentally refer to [TS]

00:02:29   Ghostbusters as back to the future and [TS]

00:02:32   then I realize that's on the record [TS]

00:02:33   forever [TS]

00:02:34   yeah yeah if I was worried about the [TS]

00:02:37   permanent record boy I'd have another [TS]

00:02:40   thing that woke me up in the middle of [TS]

00:02:41   the night [TS]

00:02:41   yeah last night I had a dream where I [TS]

00:02:46   was you know I was being chased and [TS]

00:02:50   running chasing dream and I hid inside [TS]

00:02:53   the torpedo tube [TS]

00:02:56   the submarine i was in a summary and I [TS]

00:03:01   ran in and I climbed into the torpedo [TS]

00:03:03   tube to hide and then you can guess what [TS]

00:03:06   happened [TS]

00:03:07   oh now the villain the chaser sealed me [TS]

00:03:12   in the torpedo tube [TS]

00:03:13   oh no you don't like that knows terrible [TS]

00:03:16   huh did you awake with a start [TS]

00:03:20   yes yes I what with the terrible feeling [TS]

00:03:23   that I was trapped in a torpedo tube and [TS]

00:03:26   then unlike you know in most cases in a [TS]

00:03:28   situation like that I roll over and I [TS]

00:03:30   say happy thoughts [TS]

00:03:33   puppy's eyes name but in this case I was [TS]

00:03:38   so intrigued that I rolled over was like [TS]

00:03:42   all right let's play this out [TS]

00:03:43   yeah and and and then the Utopia to was [TS]

00:03:48   flooded which was also awful [TS]

00:03:50   this is a lot of your bad stuff you [TS]

00:03:52   don't like I don't wanna you know [TS]

00:03:53   trigger you but I don't know you don't [TS]

00:03:57   like the idea of being closed in [TS]

00:03:58   somewhere [TS]

00:03:59   no because again on a submarine to begin [TS]

00:04:01   with probably not your best day I [TS]

00:04:03   wouldn't have been a good submariner [TS]

00:04:04   yeah I would not want to be a torpedo [TS]

00:04:07   tube and the only thing that could make [TS]

00:04:09   a small confined Darkspace worse is if [TS]

00:04:12   it'd been flooded with water and I [TS]

00:04:13   ground in it just like drowning in a [TS]

00:04:17   thing I mean no wait a minute I've got a [TS]

00:04:20   thing about drowning in a group torpedo [TS]

00:04:22   tube is that be relatively quick and [TS]

00:04:26   painless you hope you hope it's really [TS]

00:04:30   suffocating think that that then I can I [TS]

00:04:33   going to fear the most [TS]

00:04:34   okay look like a lack of oxygen that's [TS]

00:04:37   right yeah i mean shoot me all day long [TS]

00:04:40   knife me acid hot lava throw me from a [TS]

00:04:48   tall building hit me with a car [TS]

00:04:49   bludgeon me to death all those things [TS]

00:04:52   yeah I'll take in stride with as you say [TS]

00:04:55   dignity [TS]

00:04:57   you sound like you're really prepared [TS]

00:04:58   from but don't suffocate me [TS]

00:05:01   yeah come on [TS]

00:05:04   a little fucking class submarines are an [TS]

00:05:08   interesting thing also because if you [TS]

00:05:11   think about the stuff you're exposed to [TS]

00:05:13   as a kid at least for me I feel like [TS]

00:05:16   submarines maybe like quicksand gorilla [TS]

00:05:19   suits like submarines were thing for a [TS]

00:05:21   while like you even think of how infra [TS]

00:05:24   red october or think about one thing [TS]

00:05:27   only one people even like way before [TS]

00:05:29   that though the submarines that we had [TS]

00:05:31   access to there was always that element [TS]

00:05:33   some element of claustrophobia but it [TS]

00:05:35   was also it was just it was really cool [TS]

00:05:37   and it was until I saw something like [TS]

00:05:39   dust boot will get a real feeling of [TS]

00:05:42   like oh no this year you don't because [TS]

00:05:46   like if you think about the scenes on [TS]

00:05:48   the on the Russian sub I mean is that [TS]

00:05:52   main room is pretty it's pretty roomy I [TS]

00:05:54   mean you can walk around you don't have [TS]

00:05:56   to bend over there's chairs and and it [TS]

00:05:58   seems very accommodating you're talking [TS]

00:06:01   about run for Red October where I say oh [TS]

00:06:04   yeah what you said but I mean hunt for [TS]

00:06:06   red october yeah they've got like a [TS]

00:06:07   dining room table in there nobody even [TS]

00:06:09   like even the like that was a mega sub [TS]

00:06:12   right right but I mean it's it doesn't [TS]

00:06:14   have that sense of like if you ever [TS]

00:06:16   really on a boat [TS]

00:06:18   i mean it's it's such a a model of [TS]

00:06:21   economy is a model of a modern major [TS]

00:06:25   major major economical but pulling every [TS]

00:06:27   single cubic inch has to be utilized [TS]

00:06:31   efficiently all the time and it seems [TS]

00:06:34   like they very much [TS]

00:06:35   err on the side of smaller rather than [TS]

00:06:37   bigger and you're you know always up [TS]

00:06:39   against somebody else there's not lots [TS]

00:06:40   of places where two people can walk by [TS]

00:06:42   each other without having to change [TS]

00:06:44   their their posture and position you [TS]

00:06:46   know I mean I did not know we were going [TS]

00:06:48   to talk about boat design today [TS]

00:06:51   yeah but that's that's a perfect example [TS]

00:06:52   of how this show just goes where the day [TS]

00:06:55   takes us is that right you feel like you [TS]

00:06:57   feel like you never really know what's [TS]

00:06:58   waiting for you here [TS]

00:06:59   what could what could happen I mean I'm [TS]

00:07:01   i am about to i ampregnant with an [TS]

00:07:07   operation petticoat reference how right [TS]

00:07:09   and i'm just sitting here on top of this [TS]

00:07:11   operation petticoat reference so excited [TS]

00:07:13   by it because what was the [TS]

00:07:15   last personal ones last time i got to [TS]

00:07:18   make 11 will the next time be where [TS]

00:07:21   could i ever make an operation petticoat [TS]

00:07:23   reference and have the person i made it [TS]

00:07:26   to bail [TS]

00:07:27   alright is it set them daddy with Jack [TS]

00:07:30   the show was at the movie with Jack [TS]

00:07:32   Lemmon uh you are thinking thinking uh [TS]

00:07:37   no no I'm thinking everything looks so [TS]

00:07:40   you i'm thinking mr. Roberts probably [TS]

00:07:42   one of the worst things i'm doing right [TS]

00:07:46   now is and I can't believe this never [TS]

00:07:48   occurred to me till now is I think in my [TS]

00:07:50   head I can inflate operation petticoat [TS]

00:07:52   with petticoat junction and it didn't [TS]

00:07:54   realize until just now right [TS]

00:07:56   see that is a very common thing that has [TS]

00:07:57   happened to me before also but where [TS]

00:08:00   there's two things there's Petticoat [TS]

00:08:02   Junction the film with Cary Grant [TS]

00:08:04   there's Petticoat Junction the [TS]

00:08:06   television show with jamie lee curtis a [TS]

00:08:11   young Jamie Lee Curtis oh my god I i [TS]

00:08:14   think i think oh my gosh okay [TS]

00:08:17   oh right she thing we know we're full [TS]

00:08:22   points to John that when you had me you [TS]

00:08:24   had me good [TS]

00:08:25   even so where's this whole rat king of [TS]

00:08:29   multiple sisters and like country [TS]

00:08:31   bumpkins that's kind of an ugly [TS]

00:08:33   old-fashioned term pumpkins but like [TS]

00:08:36   wasn't a petticoat junction was more in [TS]

00:08:39   that mold of like roll like the CBS [TS]

00:08:42   rural TV shows right [TS]

00:08:43   oh you're talking about yeah right like [TS]

00:08:45   like Dukes of Hazzard well you know you [TS]

00:08:49   take something like an Andy Griffith [TS]

00:08:50   Show and you've got things like in that [TS]

00:08:53   I think that was the source of the [TS]

00:08:55   spin-off Gomer Pyle USMC right arm and [TS]

00:08:59   you've got things like you got your [TS]

00:09:01   green acres your Beverly Hillbillies you [TS]

00:09:04   get your beverly hillbillies [TS]

00:09:06   I think and then and so all I remember [TS]

00:09:09   about this so first of all remember [TS]

00:09:09   those those shows were on a lot there in [TS]

00:09:11   reruns a lot i remember reading in my [TS]

00:09:13   studies that there is basically [TS]

00:09:16   something happened with at CBS in the [TS]

00:09:20   early seventies they decided to [TS]

00:09:23   basically sweep the decks and say we we [TS]

00:09:25   are losing the urban demo [TS]

00:09:28   something along these lines are you [TS]

00:09:29   think this is the time of like you know [TS]

00:09:31   it's the sixties early seventies let's [TS]

00:09:32   create my stuff happening [TS]

00:09:34   yeah and we have all these shows that [TS]

00:09:36   are completely out of touch with the [TS]

00:09:38   youth the rabbit used culture [TS]

00:09:41   yeah they're corny corny yeah yeah and [TS]

00:09:44   so and that's and so at least in the [TS]

00:09:46   conventional wisdom that the history of [TS]

00:09:49   this is that when CBS launched all those [TS]

00:09:52   the great sitcoms like you know you [TS]

00:09:54   think about that era of all the family [TS]

00:09:56   later the jeffersons what else you got [TS]

00:09:59   in there you got mod of course [TS]

00:10:01   eventually one day at a time but that [TS]

00:10:03   all started with sweeping the decks [TS]

00:10:06   about you and your sweet sweet the shit [TS]

00:10:08   out of my enjoy i enjoyed the rural [TS]

00:10:10   shows when i was a kid [TS]

00:10:11   well the funny thing is you know a lot [TS]

00:10:13   of these shows that they had long run [TS]

00:10:15   five six years I mean and then they were [TS]

00:10:17   in syndication when we were kids as [TS]

00:10:19   we've talked about before [TS]

00:10:20   yeah but uh but where they were [TS]

00:10:22   syndicated what vary by region and [TS]

00:10:26   petticoat junction and green acres [TS]

00:10:29   neither were in a syndication in the [TS]

00:10:34   Seattle area or there's another [TS]

00:10:36   possibility which is that my babysitter [TS]

00:10:39   do not watch that channel babysitter [TS]

00:10:42   controlled the when you're negligent [TS]

00:10:43   babysitter's was the one who controls [TS]

00:10:45   the channel changer control the channel [TS]

00:10:47   changer I never well there wasn't the [TS]

00:10:48   channel changer at the time you have to [TS]

00:10:50   get up and walk all the way across this [TS]

00:10:51   current I'll turn the knob but take the [TS]

00:10:55   kids to but kids were not allowed to [TS]

00:10:58   touch the TV and the babysitter so there [TS]

00:11:01   should be another small consolations [TS]

00:11:03   right well she ran a tight ship right i [TS]

00:11:07   mean she but she was funny as the TV was [TS]

00:11:09   all the way on the far side of the [TS]

00:11:13   living room and it was just a regular [TS]

00:11:15   style American style TV at the time [TS]

00:11:18   which was about the size of what like a [TS]

00:11:20   box of wine right it's not supportable [TS]

00:11:23   know it was a bit of it wasn't a console [TS]

00:11:26   didn't have a record player and also but [TS]

00:11:28   it was a what would you what size would [TS]

00:11:30   be it's like it's like when you order [TS]

00:11:32   toilet paper from amazon.com [TS]

00:11:34   yes it comes in a box that was about the [TS]

00:11:36   size of [TS]

00:11:37   a television set for most important TV [TS]

00:11:40   standard wasn't on the floor [TS]

00:11:42   it was on a piece of furniture ok at the [TS]

00:11:46   end that I think you would call a [TS]

00:11:48   dresser maybe an arm but like if you [TS]

00:11:50   wanted to move into the kids room when [TS]

00:11:52   they're home sick from school that would [TS]

00:11:53   be quite an undertaking [TS]

00:11:55   yeah this is a very large TV it was made [TS]

00:11:57   out of wood ok I I know what you mean [TS]

00:11:59   yeah I see why you're avoiding console [TS]

00:12:01   but I know exactly what you mean we [TS]

00:12:02   might have some kind of cocoa fake [TS]

00:12:03   columns and stuff like that [TS]

00:12:05   Boober burger it was a color TV but it [TS]

00:12:09   was not direct it wasn't dressed up [TS]

00:12:11   it was it was a you know obviously like [TS]

00:12:15   some of our listeners are thinking back [TS]

00:12:16   to the largest TV they can recall and it [TS]

00:12:19   was made a black plastic and this was [TS]

00:12:21   not that this is made out of wood it was [TS]

00:12:23   handcrafted by someone that had it [TS]

00:12:25   didn't have didn't have tubes like an [TS]

00:12:28   amp but it was a cathode-ray television [TS]

00:12:31   with a very prominently curved screen a [TS]

00:12:34   curved screen that's right that when you [TS]

00:12:36   turn it on a little dot appeared and I [TS]

00:12:38   want to hear that a really high-pitched [TS]

00:12:40   noise [TS]

00:12:41   yeah and then it sat for a second as it [TS]

00:12:44   figured it was a collected itself and [TS]

00:12:45   warmed itself up and got that picture [TS]

00:12:47   anyway [TS]

00:12:48   yeah we couldn't touch it but she would [TS]

00:12:50   she would periodically throughout the [TS]

00:12:52   day stand up from her card table put out [TS]

00:12:57   her her more cigarette walk across to [TS]

00:13:03   the television and change the channel [TS]

00:13:05   and I don't know whether that was [TS]

00:13:06   because Bob Barker was on she watched [TS]

00:13:09   her stories during the middle of the day [TS]

00:13:10   and then at a certain point I think on [TS]

00:13:13   behalf of the kids when they got off the [TS]

00:13:14   school she turned she got up turn the [TS]

00:13:16   channel and then Hogan's Heroes himself [TS]

00:13:18   how can get UHS your real I mean it was [TS]

00:13:22   what there were three channels in PBS ok [TS]

00:13:25   we didn't there was no nothing was going [TS]

00:13:27   on even an independent station [TS]

00:13:29   no no no customs which is what we always [TS]

00:13:31   got black-and-white reruns and [TS]

00:13:33   Flintstones and stuff like that in [TS]

00:13:35   Alaska maybe well not even not even but [TS]

00:13:39   she with the point the point is she was [TS]

00:13:40   not she did not have any particular find [TS]

00:13:42   this for the rural programs [TS]

00:13:44   that's not what we watched and I and I [TS]

00:13:46   always assumed it was because they [TS]

00:13:48   weren't on they weren't on TV in seattle [TS]

00:13:51   or Alaska those those particular shows [TS]

00:13:53   Petticoat Junction the or I'm sorry [TS]

00:13:57   operation petticoat now you got me doing [TS]

00:14:01   it [TS]

00:14:02   operation petticoat a sauna TV show to [TS]

00:14:06   what the TV show is the one with jamie [TS]

00:14:08   lee curtis and what was crazy about it [TS]

00:14:11   was in the film in the film that was [TS]

00:14:14   made much earlier like the film is from [TS]

00:14:16   the seventies right fifties right yeah [TS]

00:14:20   59 yeah it had Tony Curtis and I guess [TS]

00:14:24   you were making a funny on the fact that [TS]

00:14:25   they were family now and then Jamie Lee [TS]

00:14:28   Curtis was cast like such as Lieutenant [TS]

00:14:31   Barbara during for 23 episodes [TS]

00:14:34   yeah yeah and so operation petticoat [TS]

00:14:37   television show ya was like done as a [TS]

00:14:39   kind of farce like Gilligan's Island [TS]

00:14:41   style like knee slapper butBut in the [TS]

00:14:45   one of those that wasn't a kind of like [TS]

00:14:47   a sexy ABC kind of show [TS]

00:14:48   yes exactly that's what i was getting at [TS]

00:14:50   it was a little bit sex t4a for a kid [TS]

00:14:56   who is I mean the whole idea of these [TS]

00:14:59   guys a sailing around during the wool in [TS]

00:15:03   a pink submarine [TS]

00:15:05   yeah maybe racy pretty icy to to my [TS]

00:15:11   little kid he is occasionally the [TS]

00:15:13   implications for an adult are pretty [TS]

00:15:14   different from just the whack-a-doodle [TS]

00:15:16   of being a kid [TS]

00:15:17   well but I think also there was some [TS]

00:15:19   aspect of it like not only was the [TS]

00:15:22   submarine pink but a but they were there [TS]

00:15:25   was a they were they were ever there was [TS]

00:15:29   an emergency right obviously you're [TS]

00:15:30   being painted the submarine pink because [TS]

00:15:32   you can I read you the short description [TS]

00:15:35   on IMDb yellowthroat high jinks on the [TS]

00:15:37   high seas when the u.s. submarine has to [TS]

00:15:39   take on a collection of female nurses [TS]

00:15:41   somehow or another the Sun was painted [TS]

00:15:43   pink in the process there and anna and i [TS]

00:15:46   think okay I think I think the way that [TS]

00:15:49   it got painted pink in the in the [TS]

00:15:51   process was it was like a primer right [TS]

00:15:53   they had a private pink prior to [TS]

00:15:56   painting in its battleship gray [TS]

00:15:57   nia or i don't remember but anyway so it [TS]

00:16:00   wasn't just the sub was pink it was also [TS]

00:16:02   full of nurses yeah so in that sense it [TS]

00:16:04   was like a mash it had a mass by but it [TS]

00:16:08   only obviously only lasted for like a [TS]

00:16:10   season and a half or something but I was [TS]

00:16:12   it was it was right up there with [TS]

00:16:14   Charlie's Angels [TS]

00:16:15   yeah in terms of like it nothing ever [TS]

00:16:18   happened that you never really got to me [TS]

00:16:22   it was television but you get your your [TS]

00:16:24   imagination could run while what you [TS]

00:16:26   know what if i were a little bit older [TS]

00:16:28   and I were honest pink submarine full of [TS]

00:16:32   nurses kept him [TS]

00:16:33   the problem was I was 10 and so even if [TS]

00:16:36   i was a little bit older [TS]

00:16:38   13 i still wouldn't have been allowed on [TS]

00:16:41   a submarine [TS]

00:16:42   yeah and feature john astin and also jim [TS]

00:16:48   Varney the guy from you know the earnest [TS]

00:16:52   guy [TS]

00:16:53   Ernest you mean like Ernest goes to [TS]

00:16:56   watch goes to camp and stuff like that [TS]

00:16:58   yeah Jim Barton it i didn't know he had [TS]

00:17:00   a he had a career but outside of Being [TS]

00:17:03   Earnest anything about John asked don't [TS]

00:17:05   change the subject here but the other [TS]

00:17:07   weird thing is like you know a lot of [TS]

00:17:08   times you know a success breeds success [TS]

00:17:11   like one network will do a show [TS]

00:17:13   obviously and then another network will [TS]

00:17:16   do a very similar show so I mean it's [TS]

00:17:20   kind of weird like when you're a little [TS]

00:17:21   kid [TS]

00:17:22   it's not like you and your bartels like [TS]

00:17:23   I've never even heard of a bartels some [TS]

00:17:26   people have CBS some people have [TS]

00:17:27   walgreens it's also interesting like it [TS]

00:17:29   regionally i think most stations that [TS]

00:17:32   are buying reruns to fill the afternoon [TS]

00:17:34   are not going to buy i'm guessing i'm [TS]

00:17:38   not i can't say but I'll just say this [TS]

00:17:39   to me [TS]

00:17:40   you're either a monster's family or you [TS]

00:17:43   were an Addams Family family and I [TS]

00:17:46   didn't even see at the Adams family [TS]

00:17:48   until I was probably in like what junior [TS]

00:17:52   high I didn't notice because we always [TS]

00:17:53   had monsters same-same absolutely same [TS]

00:17:56   and I think anyone understands a better [TS]

00:17:58   program who knows you who knows who can [TS]

00:18:01   go back in time now and say what our [TS]

00:18:02   lives would have been like if we've been [TS]

00:18:04   watching The Addams Family instead of [TS]

00:18:05   the monsters I don't want to think about [TS]

00:18:06   moments together like magnets [TS]

00:18:08   yeah because the monsters very very you [TS]

00:18:12   know foundational yeah and the addams [TS]

00:18:15   family as there's a lot of subtlety [TS]

00:18:17   going on there [TS]

00:18:18   you know they're very different [TS]

00:18:19   different shows yeah gomez is like he's [TS]

00:18:21   always smirking right yeah [TS]

00:18:24   Herman's not smirking so what he could [TS]

00:18:26   get his family came first I'm not gonna [TS]

00:18:27   look it up [TS]

00:18:28   I'm gonna stop staring because i was [TS]

00:18:29   based on like those like New Yorker [TS]

00:18:31   cartoons right yeah it's got em and [TS]

00:18:33   families got a lot of class the monsters [TS]

00:18:35   is because it is but its broader right [TS]

00:18:37   its plan to the back of the room but I [TS]

00:18:40   can't take it away i would like to point [TS]

00:18:42   out John Astin's photo on wikipedia is [TS]

00:18:47   taken from Petticoat Junction no kidding [TS]

00:18:50   yeah so it's not even now it's not like [TS]

00:18:53   oh it's not like a small moment in his [TS]

00:18:55   life huh [TS]

00:18:56   but I mean you would think he was Gomez [TS]

00:18:59   you would think he would be that would [TS]

00:19:00   be the picture that they would be you [TS]

00:19:02   that we would know about but no it's [TS]

00:19:04   like yeah maybe you can understand who [TS]

00:19:08   decides what picture to use it is always [TS]

00:19:10   been bewildering to me [TS]

00:19:11   here's a question to you yeah have you [TS]

00:19:16   looked at your Wikipedia page lately [TS]

00:19:18   no do you know how it gets made [TS]

00:19:23   not really i was sort of greenacres i do [TS]

00:19:27   not have no interesting greenacres i [TS]

00:19:29   don't i have never have not looked at my [TS]

00:19:31   Wikipedia page in a long time and still [TS]

00:19:35   haven't but it popped into my head the [TS]

00:19:37   other day that it's out there [TS]

00:19:39   yeah that it exists out there and that [TS]

00:19:41   it's probably either wrong or poor it's [TS]

00:19:46   in it's probably either i think it [TS]

00:19:48   probably is impoverished you know what I [TS]

00:19:51   mean I the first time I ever saw [TS]

00:19:52   wikipedia page about me was written by a [TS]

00:19:54   fan and it was in the early days of [TS]

00:19:57   wikipedia where people could just coming [TS]

00:20:00   maybe it's still too but they just wrote [TS]

00:20:01   a bunch of stuff it was just like [TS]

00:20:03   paragraphs and paragraphs long written [TS]

00:20:06   in the style of like a magazine article [TS]

00:20:07   that there was a time where where you [TS]

00:20:12   know [TS]

00:20:12   yeah i mean one thing obviously is if [TS]

00:20:15   it's a very popular top god I don't know [TS]

00:20:16   fuck all about this i don't know what [TS]

00:20:18   I'm trying to comment on this but i do [TS]

00:20:19   get the sense there's a lot more [TS]

00:20:21   that the editing and sort of moderation [TS]

00:20:24   has tightened up quite a lot so you [TS]

00:20:26   don't get as much like weird abuse and [TS]

00:20:27   stuff but you know if it's a topic that [TS]

00:20:29   a lot of people care about and that [TS]

00:20:30   there's a lot of interest in it there's [TS]

00:20:32   a lot of expertise in mr. fantastic [TS]

00:20:35   wikipedia pages out there it's all yeah [TS]

00:20:37   you know and there but the thing is I [TS]

00:20:39   think one thing is the people sort of [TS]

00:20:41   adopted topics and sort of watch for [TS]

00:20:43   changes and things [TS]

00:20:44   yes IC IC right i think when i first was [TS]

00:20:48   introduced to the concept of editing [TS]

00:20:50   Wikipedia pages i was looking at the [TS]

00:20:56   wikipedia page for the Starcaster [TS]

00:20:58   fenders famously ill-advised competitor [TS]

00:21:04   to the es-335 which I owned a copy of of [TS]

00:21:08   which I owned a copy [TS]

00:21:09   wow the Starcaster how you've seen me [TS]

00:21:12   play my starcaster must look it up [TS]

00:21:15   starcaster very unusual guitar i was [TS]

00:21:19   working i was part me i was working at [TS]

00:21:22   Emerald City guitars in seattle accept [TS]

00:21:24   any yes 335 and wanted to kind of give [TS]

00:21:26   it a little bit of the funky angle of [TS]

00:21:29   the fender like give me like a little [TS]

00:21:30   bit much dangle yeah they stretched it [TS]

00:21:33   was strangely and like a Stratocaster [TS]

00:21:35   yeah but three is a 335 so i was working [TS]

00:21:38   at Emerald City guitars and it and and I [TS]

00:21:40   had within the year purchased a 1968 [TS]

00:21:44   telecaster with a factory Bigsby tremolo [TS]

00:21:48   and it was the most fancy expensive [TS]

00:21:50   guitar that I had owned ever since my [TS]

00:21:54   original 1968 eat es-335 was stolen out [TS]

00:21:59   of my own living room while i was [TS]

00:22:00   sleeping man that happened a long time [TS]

00:22:03   before but so this was a fancy guitar [TS]

00:22:06   was very fancy but whenever I would play [TS]

00:22:10   shows with it i like to play with my [TS]

00:22:14   guitar kind of loud sounds the fashion [TS]

00:22:17   at the time and this telecaster was very [TS]

00:22:20   it was very feedback II remember this [TS]

00:22:24   journal telecasters were were like all [TS]

00:22:28   the feedback telecasters at least in my [TS]

00:22:31   had had a Telecaster and I think one of [TS]

00:22:33   the perform [TS]

00:22:34   its characteristics for better for worse [TS]

00:22:35   was they were not as you would say loud [TS]

00:22:37   guitar and we did get loud they were [TS]

00:22:40   pretty [TS]

00:22:40   I don't know the term for it but yeah I [TS]

00:22:42   would feedback pretty bad and yet a [TS]

00:22:44   single coil not super heavily won't pick [TS]

00:22:46   up and then we'll get the distinctive 20 [TS]

00:22:48   sound it's that distinctive 20 sound or [TS]

00:22:51   are we playing with jingle bells don't [TS]

00:22:53   know at least answer there no I think [TS]

00:22:55   it's just breaks [TS]

00:22:57   o people break a lot around here oh oh [TS]

00:23:00   right right breaks I thought you were [TS]

00:23:03   talking about like drum brakes was like [TS]

00:23:05   that was a cool drum brake right and and [TS]

00:23:10   so people did all kinds of things like [TS]

00:23:12   they invented humbuckers that would fit [TS]

00:23:14   inside the single space of a telecaster [TS]

00:23:18   pick up people would take their [TS]

00:23:19   telecaster pickups out and dip them in [TS]

00:23:22   wax I'm really didn't see more I feel [TS]

00:23:25   like I remember seymour duncan is being [TS]

00:23:27   a big deal because they had was the [TS]

00:23:30   quarter pounder but they cannot put some [TS]

00:23:31   pickup that where you could put enough [TS]

00:23:34   was just seymour duncan but you could if [TS]

00:23:35   you with the right amount of routing [TS]

00:23:37   routing what you call it you know router [TS]

00:23:39   making at all where you could get a [TS]

00:23:41   humbucker a double pick up into the [TS]

00:23:45   space of a single coil area right but it [TS]

00:23:48   was tapped it was stacked it was on top [TS]

00:23:50   of each other rather than side-by-side [TS]

00:23:51   yeah and right and then of course there [TS]

00:23:54   was the mother bucker which was a hammer [TS]

00:23:57   invention which was three [TS]

00:23:59   it was three pick three single-coil [TS]

00:24:01   pickups together the motherfuckers that [TS]

00:24:02   in gillette blade situation you get [TS]

00:24:04   benefit from having those extras [TS]

00:24:05   I well you know people aren't aren't [TS]

00:24:07   still using them so i think it was just [TS]

00:24:10   a thing that looked pretty hot i [TS]

00:24:12   remember seeing it in a hammer guitar [TS]

00:24:14   and thinking that looks pretty hot but [TS]

00:24:16   for some reason to pick up version of [TS]

00:24:19   rick nielsen having five neck guitar and [TS]

00:24:21   Rick Nielson also famously played Hamer [TS]

00:24:24   sledgehammers I bet he had one nice pull [TS]

00:24:27   but uh but so now nobody plays that loud [TS]

00:24:32   you can play the guitar you want i think [TS]

00:24:34   but then every time I stepped on my [TS]

00:24:35   distortion box this thing would just [TS]

00:24:37   start squealing like what [TS]

00:24:38   hey and it's been especially if you're [TS]

00:24:41   on the detail pick up yeah and I at that [TS]

00:24:47   point in time never used anything but [TS]

00:24:49   the bridge pickup because i didn't [TS]

00:24:50   understand what the neck pickup did I [TS]

00:24:52   never touched the controls of a guitar [TS]

00:24:54   or of the amp i just turned everything [TS]

00:24:56   up all the way and then the only way I [TS]

00:24:59   had really of expressing myself as an [TS]

00:25:01   instrumentalist was stepping on the [TS]

00:25:02   distortion pedal because i had no had no [TS]

00:25:05   feel of any kind I couldn't you know I [TS]

00:25:08   couldn't do anything with the guitar [TS]

00:25:10   except the most brute like bet behavior [TS]

00:25:15   yeah just like blank and this guitar was [TS]

00:25:19   too crazy was like a scimitars it was [TS]

00:25:22   beautiful [TS]

00:25:24   I'm working I'm working at the guitar [TS]

00:25:25   store one day and a guy comes in this [TS]

00:25:27   used to happen all the time in the [TS]

00:25:28   guitar store somebody a man woman comes [TS]

00:25:32   in with a guitar case and you can see [TS]

00:25:33   the case through the glass door when [TS]

00:25:35   they're still on the sidewalk and you're [TS]

00:25:36   like oh here comes a live one [TS]

00:25:38   mhm because you see the case you know it [TS]

00:25:42   is something and then you look at the [TS]

00:25:44   person and you know that person does not [TS]

00:25:46   belong with that guitar kings and so you [TS]

00:25:49   adopt that cool kind of guide the guitar [TS]

00:25:51   shopping you lean your elbow on the [TS]

00:25:52   counter and you're like hey welcome to [TS]

00:25:55   emerald city guitars how are you make [TS]

00:25:57   them in all hey I found this guitar my [TS]

00:25:59   grandfather's bed season for you know or [TS]

00:26:02   my son went off to Vietnam and never [TS]

00:26:05   came back and we have this guitar ever [TS]

00:26:07   since or any kind of story like that [TS]

00:26:11   you're like let's take a look at what [TS]

00:26:13   kind of like a is this worth anything [TS]

00:26:14   that yeah right i don't know what to do [TS]

00:26:17   with that are bringing it down to the [TS]

00:26:18   good i saw your ad in the penny nickel [TS]

00:26:21   all right come on in and you know and [TS]

00:26:26   you see the case and then you get that [TS]

00:26:28   smell there's a certain smell that those [TS]

00:26:30   old guitars had that if you're not into [TS]

00:26:33   the smell of like it's sort of a little [TS]

00:26:35   bit more bolly a little bit like sitting [TS]

00:26:37   in the closet for all these years those [TS]

00:26:39   cases were made out of tweed we flip it [TS]

00:26:43   open and then inside is this guitar and [TS]

00:26:45   sometimes it can be you know every once [TS]

00:26:48   in awhile it is [TS]

00:26:50   like a 54 stratocaster or a 57 les paul [TS]

00:26:54   custom at which point everybody gasps [TS]

00:26:58   and then the owner of the store like [TS]

00:27:01   magically appears and gently puts his [TS]

00:27:06   hand on everyone to him even if there [TS]

00:27:09   are four of us working in the store he [TS]

00:27:10   somehow manages to gently put his hand [TS]

00:27:12   on all four of us and just push us away [TS]

00:27:16   just like the monopoly man it is he's [TS]

00:27:19   not just you know it's a risk guitar [TS]

00:27:21   sources just like rock-and-roll dad you [TS]

00:27:23   know he's got a shark tooth necklace or [TS]

00:27:24   what everybody's like everybody go [TS]

00:27:29   you know like I got this time the lean [TS]

00:27:32   time to clean a minute we all step back [TS]

00:27:34   and he's like hi thanks for coming in [TS]

00:27:36   and then it's sort of like progresses [TS]

00:27:38   into a different it takes a different [TS]

00:27:40   form but a lot of times it will be the [TS]

00:27:44   the guitar case would open and it would [TS]

00:27:46   be a very interesting and cool guitar [TS]

00:27:49   but not necessarily one that would bring [TS]

00:27:52   the owner Jay down from his tower you [TS]

00:27:56   know something like a mosrite or a oral [TS]

00:27:59   later you know later fender I mean [TS]

00:28:02   nowadays all that stuff is is is [TS]

00:28:06   unobtainium right but but then it was [TS]

00:28:10   like oh yeah guitar you know that's a I [TS]

00:28:12   mean I bought that 68 Telecaster twelve [TS]

00:28:15   hundred dollars and it seems like whoa [TS]

00:28:16   1,200 bucks what kind of house are you [TS]

00:28:19   spending twelve hundred dollars on [TS]

00:28:20   guitar right you know you know you get [TS]

00:28:22   perfectly good guitar for six hundred [TS]

00:28:24   dollars and and people who are listening [TS]

00:28:28   this program who are not in the guitar [TS]

00:28:29   trades or even who are won't realize [TS]

00:28:33   that well the people that are will [TS]

00:28:36   realize but those guitars don't exist [TS]

00:28:38   like that anymore nobody comes into a [TS]

00:28:40   guitar store with a with something under [TS]

00:28:42   their arm like that because the first [TS]

00:28:44   thing everybody does google it and now [TS]

00:28:46   he sure they're stupid 1999 fender [TS]

00:28:50   squier is were heard of seventeen [TS]

00:28:53   hundred dollars [TS]

00:28:54   and so but at the time there was no [TS]

00:28:57   resource like that was just like oh no [TS]

00:28:59   it from this thing go boom and so one [TS]

00:29:02   day a guy comes in the open this guitar [TS]

00:29:04   case and it's this fender starcaster [TS]

00:29:07   which none of us at the store had ever [TS]

00:29:10   heard of obviously Jay had but the rest [TS]

00:29:13   of us like younger guys never seen this [TS]

00:29:16   thing before [TS]

00:29:17   what the hell is it and a it was this [TS]

00:29:22   ill-fated guitar fender tried to do this [TS]

00:29:24   thing it was the nineteen seventies not [TS]

00:29:25   the not the top era for fender or for [TS]

00:29:29   anybody in America we couldn't make cars [TS]

00:29:32   or guitar string the 72 started making [TS]

00:29:34   them in 76 and they were done by 79 [TS]

00:29:38   right well i mean i'm sure there was a [TS]

00:29:40   light ale but the 76 to 80 20 * casters [TS]

00:29:45   that's what it says they only made him [TS]

00:29:48   for three years [TS]

00:29:49   pretty pretty sure i'll say this its I [TS]

00:29:54   mean like obviously for guitar person [TS]

00:29:55   you know this but it's not the way you [TS]

00:29:57   would like eyeball a strat this is not [TS]

00:29:59   like a classic right no yeah it was and [TS]

00:30:04   this was I think still at a time when [TS]

00:30:06   Fender guitars of that era were derided [TS]

00:30:09   ok so until until very recently like a [TS]

00:30:13   77 stratocaster would spit on the floor [TS]

00:30:18   maybe like clip 277 stratocaster that we [TS]

00:30:22   call them record them call them what [TS]

00:30:24   were they for bolt necks there was there [TS]

00:30:29   was there was some menus now the three [TS]

00:30:31   bolts [TS]

00:30:32   well I forget it's been so long since i [TS]

00:30:34   didn't since i did any kind of work like [TS]

00:30:36   this but it was it was widely understood [TS]

00:30:39   that those guitars were not very good [TS]

00:30:41   now 77 stratocaster is worth a ton of [TS]

00:30:45   money not no one even remembers a time [TS]

00:30:47   when those were considered garbage [TS]

00:30:50   because they're 40 years old and then [TS]

00:30:51   you [TS]

00:30:52   and they're not making they're not [TS]

00:30:53   making any more new 40 year old guitars [TS]

00:30:56   right right there the end of their [TS]

00:30:58   precious and when you could no longer [TS]

00:31:00   afford to 65 stratocaster and you could [TS]

00:31:04   only afford a 72 stratocaster and then [TS]

00:31:06   pretty soon he couldn't afford those so [TS]

00:31:08   you so 79 stratocaster and now you know [TS]

00:31:12   why I doubt you can afford that but this [TS]

00:31:13   was from that era so a lot of people in [TS]

00:31:16   the guitar shop [TS]

00:31:17   we're like how what a strange curiosity [TS]

00:31:20   it's kind of like a fender coronado to [TS]

00:31:23   which is to say a guitar that I don't [TS]

00:31:25   really care about and everybody's always [TS]

00:31:27   walked away and and I'm left there with [TS]

00:31:31   this thing like my god I'm so attracted [TS]

00:31:35   to it and my the one that came into the [TS]

00:31:38   store that day was root beer brown which [TS]

00:31:42   again most people were most people in [TS]

00:31:44   the guitar trades were like yeah not [TS]

00:31:46   interested in a rootbeer colored guitar [TS]

00:31:49   either especially not this like thing [TS]

00:31:53   this thing this ugly thing that looks [TS]

00:31:55   like i'm just looking like just just [TS]

00:31:57   based on sort of aesthetics you're not [TS]

00:32:00   sure like who's this for [TS]

00:32:01   I mean Brants to be kind of a like a [TS]

00:32:04   chet atkins kind of guitar like like if [TS]

00:32:06   you're you know a successful local [TS]

00:32:08   country musician you might want this but [TS]

00:32:10   then it's got humbuckers right right [TS]

00:32:13   yeah and it's but it's like who would [TS]

00:32:15   this before in 1976 I mean you're gonna [TS]

00:32:17   get a less fall if you can probably [TS]

00:32:19   right well who-who fender imagined it [TS]

00:32:22   was for was in the in the mid-seventies [TS]

00:32:25   you got all these chick Korea's out [TS]

00:32:27   there [TS]

00:32:28   ok you got all these trainee Lopez's the [TS]

00:32:31   you later later period training Lopez's [TS]

00:32:35   you've got everybody's trying to do all [TS]

00:32:37   these Jerry guard to see is everybody's [TS]

00:32:39   trying to do something new with the [TS]

00:32:41   guitar and there's a lot of jazz [TS]

00:32:43   happening a lot of jazz guitar going on [TS]

00:32:47   everybody's jazzy [TS]

00:32:49   and they're jazzing it up and the 335i [TS]

00:32:53   mean that's it that's a pretty valid [TS]

00:32:54   question what is a 335 for it's the [TS]

00:32:57   classic busy Tommy king [TS]

00:32:59   yeah the blues brews but that doesn't [TS]

00:33:04   like that's a bonafide classic that [TS]

00:33:06   right oh yeah i mean a 59 335 is worth [TS]

00:33:10   the in the multiple good costume or just [TS]

00:33:13   what a gorgeous guitar beautiful thing [TS]

00:33:15   so but fender never had one like that [TS]

00:33:17   they tried to do this coronado thing [TS]

00:33:20   back in the sixties notice not eat our [TS]

00:33:23   John no no it's terrible and the [TS]

00:33:25   Coronado's were made out of fiber port I [TS]

00:33:27   mean they're not they were never [TS]

00:33:28   intended them to be good but like Gibson [TS]

00:33:31   always had a always cornered the market [TS]

00:33:34   on the f whole semi hollow body detox [TS]

00:33:38   right [TS]

00:33:39   Gibson just cornered the market vendor [TS]

00:33:40   never even tried but then in the [TS]

00:33:42   seventies they were like hey man they're [TS]

00:33:45   like a bad [TS]

00:33:48   what if we did but if we did a [TS]

00:33:51   hollow-body guitar and somebody at a [TS]

00:33:57   inventor was like that's great idea you [TS]

00:34:00   know because by then the company's been [TS]

00:34:01   sold and Leo fender was living in a [TS]

00:34:03   living in a in a Ford f-150 and so they [TS]

00:34:08   did and they made it only for a couple [TS]

00:34:10   years nobody bought it because as you [TS]

00:34:11   say who wants it [TS]

00:34:13   it did all the other thing that it had [TS]

00:34:15   was a master volume knob on the guitar [TS]

00:34:18   so you could set your different volumes [TS]

00:34:23   of the pickups individually and then [TS]

00:34:24   have faster that it's got a fist the [TS]

00:34:26   wheel a fifth wheel [TS]

00:34:28   Wow um oh my god you know what I have an [TS]

00:34:33   ad an original ad from nineteen [TS]

00:34:36   seventies guitar magazine hanging in my [TS]

00:34:38   bathroom for the Starcaster and I'm I'm [TS]

00:34:42   sorely tempted to jump up and go get it [TS]

00:34:44   because it does have an alligator the [TS]

00:34:47   the add you know there's there's no [TS]

00:34:49   alligator but it does have it does have [TS]

00:34:52   some copywriting that's very much of the [TS]

00:34:56   moment of its moment i'm gonna get hang [TS]

00:34:58   on a second ok key play some [TS]

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00:36:18   rock on the line and all the great shows [TS]

00:36:24   right there still oh yeah okay here's [TS]

00:36:28   what it says this is this one guitar was [TS]

00:36:33   brand new Fender ushers in a new age in [TS]

00:36:36   sound pure sound with minimum feedback [TS]

00:36:40   more sound with a solid wood center [TS]

00:36:43   block from maximum sustained two [TS]

00:36:46   humbucking pickups now this is a thing [TS]

00:36:49   that that's not really that that big of [TS]

00:36:52   a selling point right by this point in [TS]

00:36:55   time if you want if you're buying a [TS]

00:36:57   guitar you know that it's gonna have to [TS]

00:36:59   i'm backing pickups generally now that's [TS]

00:37:01   not necessarily true offender but here [TS]

00:37:03   we go [TS]

00:37:04   crews from metallic to mellow and [TS]

00:37:06   anywhere in between [TS]

00:37:08   drive hard or lay back at the touch of a [TS]

00:37:11   finger tip and now we're going to move [TS]

00:37:15   on to the five knobs which is the real [TS]

00:37:18   innovation no guitar ever had five mob [TS]

00:37:20   Merlin nobody ever thought you could [TS]

00:37:22   probably even out of this knob no no who [TS]

00:37:25   would have no idea roger McGuinn would [TS]

00:37:27   dream of assets knob who dared who you [TS]

00:37:30   know but that's right [TS]

00:37:31   who dares wins am i right who who's then [TS]

00:37:35   they were like what we put a gift Bob [TS]

00:37:38   but dual controls it says dual controls [TS]

00:37:45   I have no idea what that I don't know [TS]

00:37:47   what dual means in that context i'm [TS]

00:37:49   guessing that means you can have this [TS]

00:37:50   picked up with that pickup [TS]

00:37:51   yeah right okay that's right that's what [TS]

00:37:53   it means dual controls 5 stars2 steer by [TS]

00:37:59   to individual pick up tone controls [TS]

00:38:02   program like every guitar and thinks [TS]

00:38:06   that click to and then to individual [TS]

00:38:10   pick up volume controls / and like every [TS]

00:38:13   window neck included that in print and [TS]

00:38:17   then the last one and matt and this is [TS]

00:38:19   so to individual pick up I'm controls [TS]

00:38:22   period and then the next sentence begins [TS]

00:38:24   with a capital and and master volume [TS]

00:38:28   control and that's the thing that that's [TS]

00:38:30   the thing that they were going to try [TS]

00:38:32   and use as the big selling point for [TS]

00:38:34   that I love that five stars to steer by [TS]

00:38:36   every time I go to the bathroom [TS]

00:38:38   look at that and I say five stars to [TS]

00:38:40   steer by mmm that feels like that feels [TS]

00:38:43   like that should be somebody's motto you [TS]

00:38:45   can find so much more stuff with five [TS]

00:38:47   stars and four stars five stars five [TS]

00:38:49   stars to steer by one thing is at the [TS]

00:38:51   time I don't think I don't think five [TS]

00:38:52   star rating even existed all I see are [TS]

00:38:55   seeing stars i get em you know because [TS]

00:38:57   because it a five-star general is only [TS]

00:39:00   that only happens in war time rather [TS]

00:39:05   than absolutely yay for wartime general [TS]

00:39:07   yeah that's right a wartime concealer [TS]

00:39:09   Tom Higgins not a wartime general you [TS]

00:39:12   don't there's no five-star general right [TS]

00:39:14   now because there's no general of the [TS]

00:39:15   there's no general of the armies which [TS]

00:39:17   is like big guys the five stars that's [TS]

00:39:20   what you get you get a MacArthur you get [TS]

00:39:21   a patent you get out of 5 stars on that [TS]

00:39:25   was never for all right if I call [TS]

00:39:28   multiplicity get five stars [TS]

00:39:29   no I don't think so for didn't I don't [TS]

00:39:32   think you got but no I think it was [TS]

00:39:34   eisenhower and and macarthur mhm [TS]

00:39:37   I mean you know every once awhile they [TS]

00:39:39   keep 12 a car because he was you know [TS]

00:39:40   he'd been around a long time but I think [TS]

00:39:42   I think Washington also get doesn't [TS]

00:39:44   Washington get like some kind of the [TS]

00:39:45   secret bonus star about George [TS]

00:39:47   Washington yeah i think back then every [TS]

00:39:52   time they give you a new rank they just [TS]

00:39:54   gave you like a bag of gold all that you [TS]

00:40:00   come from your sleeve [TS]

00:40:02   I feel like I read which I think we [TS]

00:40:04   talked about this one so I feel like he [TS]

00:40:05   was posthumously given something along [TS]

00:40:08   the lines of no matter how many stars [TS]

00:40:10   anybody ever gets Washington always has [TS]

00:40:13   one more [TS]

00:40:13   how interesting because he's the OG I [TS]

00:40:16   thought you were going to say it was [TS]

00:40:17   like the posthumous the weather Mormons [TS]

00:40:20   baptize their ancestors ok could be [TS]

00:40:22   could be similar [TS]

00:40:23   yeah you know that you know that you [TS]

00:40:25   know that that is a that's kind of a a [TS]

00:40:27   one of the one of the deals [TS]

00:40:30   yes the yeah you know we talked about [TS]

00:40:32   know it's it's it's it's fascinating so [TS]

00:40:35   they got 5 stars2 22 guide by the and i [TS]

00:40:40   found is very seventies looking and it [TS]

00:40:43   has the guitar turning into an alligator [TS]

00:40:45   oh you you were referring to one that [TS]

00:40:48   you were even then looking at the [TS]

00:40:51   hard-charging sharp to starcaster first [TS]

00:40:54   heard emerging from the spectral depths [TS]

00:40:56   of creation in 1976 starcaster have been [TS]

00:40:59   is the great grey-green greasy limpopo [TS]

00:41:01   what whatever that is and what Leslie [TS]

00:41:04   climbs the charts its attack is [TS]

00:41:07   heightened by a unique semi hollow body [TS]

00:41:09   and job-hopping vocal range which is [TS]

00:41:12   which makes it a prize trophy among and [TS]

00:41:14   a musicologist uh-huh and musicologist [TS]

00:41:18   yeah [TS]

00:41:19   did you know that john astin is [TS]

00:41:21   currently teaching acting at johns [TS]

00:41:23   hopkins university on asking is alive [TS]

00:41:25   he's not only a lot but currently [TS]

00:41:27   teaching acting that's fantastic [TS]

00:41:29   yeah he's trying to reestablish the the [TS]

00:41:32   acting school at Johns Hopkins good for [TS]

00:41:33   him [TS]

00:41:34   johns hopkins you know now is thought of [TS]

00:41:37   primarily as science school but but as a [TS]

00:41:40   long and storied history in the arts so [TS]

00:41:42   Jay was that his name he comes down from [TS]

00:41:44   his tower oj anyway came down and I was [TS]

00:41:47   like I love this guitar I want this [TS]

00:41:49   guitar and he said oh I don't know ma'am [TS]

00:41:51   that's pretty cool guitar because Jay [TS]

00:41:53   was a wheeler-dealer he always wheelie [TS]

00:41:55   wheeler-dealer and even those of us the [TS]

00:41:58   work for him because he was only [TS]

00:41:59   planning business that's telling you [TS]

00:42:02   yeah exactly yeah yeah it's just like if [TS]

00:42:05   you work at the car lot [TS]

00:42:06   it's not like you get the honda civic [TS]

00:42:08   for free you gotta turn and start [TS]

00:42:10   negotiating with the with the salesman [TS]

00:42:12   one [TS]

00:42:13   double up so James like I don't know i [TS]

00:42:15   don't mean it's pretty nice guitar and I [TS]

00:42:17   was like wow I mean it's root beer brown [TS]

00:42:20   and no one has one and it's ridiculous [TS]

00:42:23   looking and he was like yeah i know but [TS]

00:42:24   like I could probably get eighteen [TS]

00:42:27   hundred dollars for that he would have [TS]

00:42:29   said that that would have been [TS]

00:42:29   outrageous amount of money but I said [TS]

00:42:31   what if I trade you that telecaster for [TS]

00:42:33   it and he I think recognize that that [TS]

00:42:36   was a good deal and he said sold as you [TS]

00:42:39   can so move a telecaster oh yeah and [TS]

00:42:41   that telecaster now 68 Telecaster with [TS]

00:42:44   the the factory Bigsby that's worth a [TS]

00:42:47   ton of money a lot more than the [TS]

00:42:48   Starcaster probably anyway I played for [TS]

00:42:51   a long time the Starcaster it was like [TS]

00:42:54   one of my that was one of my signature [TS]

00:42:56   guitars and then Chris wala of death cab [TS]

00:43:00   for cutie liked it so much that his [TS]

00:43:02   bandmates bought him one as a present [TS]

00:43:04   since he was playing his but a lot more [TS]

00:43:08   prominently that I was and then at a [TS]

00:43:12   certain moment there [TS]

00:43:14   wikipedia arrived upon the scene and [TS]

00:43:16   everybody was on there be no filling out [TS]

00:43:20   people's wikipedia pages and you know [TS]

00:43:23   mine was had all this baloney on it like [TS]

00:43:25   grew up in the you know he used to live [TS]

00:43:29   at 1,800 stanford in a land Anchorage [TS]

00:43:31   Alaska I was like what is that doing [TS]

00:43:33   there but it was written by a fan you [TS]

00:43:35   know and and I didn't understand how [TS]

00:43:37   things work but then i went to the [TS]

00:43:38   Starcaster page one day because i wanted [TS]

00:43:41   to know about star casters as much as I [TS]

00:43:43   could find and down at the bottom of the [TS]

00:43:46   page it said prominent starcaster users [TS]

00:43:49   and I was like prominent starcaster [TS]

00:43:52   users who are these people and it was it [TS]

00:43:55   was Chris wala and then some [TS]

00:43:58   oh and jonny greenwood Chris wall and [TS]

00:44:01   Johnny Green will hit starcaster and [TS]

00:44:05   then like a couple of other guys and I [TS]

00:44:08   said you know i'm i'm a prominent [TS]

00:44:11   starcaster usually there aren't that [TS]

00:44:13   many of us [TS]

00:44:14   sure and so I had just had just gotten I [TS]

00:44:19   just dropped the concept that you could [TS]

00:44:21   change a Wikipedia page [TS]

00:44:24   and so I satin figured it out and pushed [TS]

00:44:27   on the Edit thing and went down and got [TS]

00:44:29   figured out the HTML the XHTML Yeah [TS]

00:44:33   right right and and ipad my name [TS]

00:44:37   no kidding right there big biggest day [TS]

00:44:39   prominent starcaster user and then I [TS]

00:44:43   went back two days later it was gone [TS]

00:44:45   yeah I was like fuck I'm prominence [TS]

00:44:49   doncaster user yeah like I got a record [TS]

00:44:53   I you know my current record is number [TS]

00:44:55   four on the cmj huh [TS]

00:44:58   but if i put it back put my name back [TS]

00:45:00   there and get the warning that week [TS]

00:45:03   later it was gone and I was like you [TS]

00:45:07   know [TS]

00:45:08   alright I surrender I don't know who's [TS]

00:45:10   making these decisions [TS]

00:45:11   somebody's like why and I assumed it was [TS]

00:45:14   one of two things either they were like [TS]

00:45:16   who made that it oh the guy and right [TS]

00:45:20   even if it's true even if even if Dwight [TS]

00:45:23   David Eisenhower goes on and says I was [TS]

00:45:25   general of the army [TS]

00:45:26   they're going to say you can edit your [TS]

00:45:27   own Wikipedia page sorry right right or [TS]

00:45:30   it was somebody that was like who's this [TS]

00:45:32   guy and then they went and looked at my [TS]

00:45:35   Wikipedia page where somebody was [TS]

00:45:37   talking about you know that i played [TS]

00:45:38   wiffle ball in in elementary school and [TS]

00:45:42   they were like this guy's just he's just [TS]

00:45:43   some wiffle ball guy he's not a [TS]

00:45:45   prominent starcaster user I don't know [TS]

00:45:48   what this is a long time ago but but [TS]

00:45:51   that ended that was the beginning and [TS]

00:45:53   the end of me making any kind of [TS]

00:45:55   wikipedia entry because I realized that [TS]

00:45:58   I was not at some level i was getting i [TS]

00:46:02   was somebody was stepping on my neck and [TS]

00:46:04   I didn't want to play that game in the [TS]

00:46:05   screwgy the screwgy we I mean like you [TS]

00:46:10   know I think one of my time here said [TS]

00:46:13   derived from screwed [TS]

00:46:14   I think I made I made to edits ever you [TS]

00:46:20   have you are you looking through a file [TS]

00:46:22   yeah you do and see what I've changed [TS]

00:46:24   I've made to edits Oh both in the fall [TS]

00:46:27   2008 what were their looks like i [TS]

00:46:31   corrected the release date of protect [TS]

00:46:34   your neck by wu-tang clan [TS]

00:46:36   they had it at 1950 30 and I i changed [TS]

00:46:41   it to 1993 yeah um and then on the on [TS]

00:46:47   the page for brilliant corners by [TS]

00:46:50   felonious monk it looks like i linked to [TS]

00:46:54   the the page for Orion keep news from [TS]

00:46:59   the personnel area see if they'll see if [TS]

00:47:02   the state up is still there yeah look at [TS]

00:47:07   that look at you [TS]

00:47:08   yeah like a Wikipedia wouldn't be the [TS]

00:47:12   same without you actually agree yeah [TS]

00:47:13   producer producer of the million corners [TS]

00:47:16   well i-i-i sometimes I got onto this [TS]

00:47:20   quora alright let's talk about this [TS]

00:47:23   have I told you about this no I haven't [TS]

00:47:25   heard about core i-i-i feel like I will [TS]

00:47:27   go to court and because i don't have an [TS]

00:47:28   account it wasn't allowed to see the [TS]

00:47:30   answers for things and I don't know that [TS]

00:47:31   still a thing but i haven't gone back [TS]

00:47:33   very much [TS]

00:47:33   well i don't i don't know how so I have [TS]

00:47:36   no I have no idea how Korra ended up in [TS]

00:47:39   my life right one day I got an email [TS]

00:47:42   huh that suggested that i was a [TS]

00:47:46   long-standing member and it said hey [TS]

00:47:49   here's some core articles that might [TS]

00:47:52   interest you and it was all about tanks [TS]

00:47:54   wow like the history of Tanks a tank [TS]

00:47:59   battles tank warfare people asking [TS]

00:48:02   questions like what would happen if I [TS]

00:48:04   opened a pepsi and then put a mouthful [TS]

00:48:07   of pop rocks but I was in a tank [TS]

00:48:10   mm or if you took one m1 Abrams and [TS]

00:48:13   pitted against like 40 Sherman tanks who [TS]

00:48:17   would win like always kind of questions [TS]

00:48:19   that you only get on Quora and I was [TS]

00:48:21   like why am I getting this email but I [TS]

00:48:24   was interested i did i really wasn't [TS]

00:48:28   this is there a chance that you had [TS]

00:48:29   signed up and forgot about it [TS]

00:48:31   no because I wouldn't have it wouldn't [TS]

00:48:34   have signed up for thing that had that [TS]

00:48:37   said like what are your what are your [TS]

00:48:38   major interests and offered me 80 [TS]

00:48:40   options and I and all i clicked was [TS]

00:48:42   tanks like that's not a thing even if I [TS]

00:48:45   was still drinking [TS]

00:48:46   that's not a thing I would [TS]

00:48:47   and it felt a little bit like somebody [TS]

00:48:49   signing me up on a mailing list where [TS]

00:48:52   I'm getting weird junk mail all the time [TS]

00:48:54   telling her like yeah like subscribed [TS]

00:48:57   somebody subscribe me to like tank [TS]

00:48:59   drivers digest or something [TS]

00:49:01   yeah but whether where I was coming in [TS]

00:49:03   the real mail but it was in my email I [TS]

00:49:05   don't know why it happened but then I [TS]

00:49:07   got really interested in it and then I [TS]

00:49:09   sort of drove into Korra but i didn't i [TS]

00:49:13   did go in one time in and fill out a [TS]

00:49:16   form that had all of my interests and I [TS]

00:49:20   was like you know history and politics [TS]

00:49:22   and lots of tears burn talking with your [TS]

00:49:25   lips pursed like this with the web or [TS]

00:49:28   should I want to know about everything [TS]

00:49:30   and the emails and stuff that kept [TS]

00:49:32   coming we're just all about tanks but [TS]

00:49:35   never this is never interesting [TS]

00:49:37   yeah it never changed how long i just [TS]

00:49:39   saw how long ago was this [TS]

00:49:41   it's been two years now that and [TS]

00:49:46   gradually over time it has expanded to [TS]

00:49:50   include special forces ops and other [TS]

00:49:55   like just I mean it's basically the [TS]

00:49:57   quora topic list of an eleven-year-old [TS]

00:50:02   right like what would happen what would [TS]

00:50:05   happen if if the USS enterprise and [TS]

00:50:09   forty marine recon operatives all had [TS]

00:50:15   all had to choose a rabbit down a hole [TS]

00:50:19   who would win and it was just like wow I [TS]

00:50:21   NSI read and read and read them because [TS]

00:50:24   yeah out if this is coming in my email [TS]

00:50:28   inbox like i'm not i'm not going to stop [TS]

00:50:31   it I'm who am I to stand with work [TS]

00:50:33   history and yell stop but it was too [TS]

00:50:35   gettin somethin right to tickle your [TS]

00:50:36   interest bone but but but one of the [TS]

00:50:40   things that I wonder is if if i had [TS]

00:50:45   started getting emails from Cora on any [TS]

00:50:48   topic would i have had pretty much the [TS]

00:50:51   same reaction like huh that's [TS]

00:50:53   interesting i'm getting all these weird [TS]

00:50:55   emails now from Cora about [TS]

00:50:57   farming um but it's really interesting [TS]

00:51:00   I mean I think anything that anything [TS]

00:51:02   that came in that form was like this is [TS]

00:51:05   a very specific thing every time you get [TS]

00:51:07   one of these emails are going to be like [TS]

00:51:09   answers to 10 questions and and you can [TS]

00:51:13   get in and get out like it's just me but [TS]

00:51:16   it's like you know if you think about [TS]

00:51:18   the way you do like a medium got a cold [TS]

00:51:20   reading where there's a certain set of [TS]

00:51:22   things that you can observe or say to [TS]

00:51:24   somebody that's very likely to get their [TS]

00:51:26   interest the delt they'll find the [TS]

00:51:27   meaning and what it is but tank seems [TS]

00:51:30   pretty on the nose [TS]

00:51:31   well but not necessarily right like I [TS]

00:51:35   don't know if you don't know if you [TS]

00:51:37   listen to the the food safety podcast [TS]

00:51:40   they did with non Schaffner i think i [TS]

00:51:41   did but i was surprised that i had a lot [TS]

00:51:47   of questions about food safety i had the [TS]

00:51:50   same experience right when you did that [TS]

00:51:53   podcast and you get on there and you're [TS]

00:51:55   like no wait a minute let's get this how [TS]

00:51:57   many aspects of my life the food safety [TS]

00:51:59   touched and I finally I but you know you [TS]

00:52:01   get specific in like you're in a room [TS]

00:52:02   with somebody like that you like that [TS]

00:52:03   you know what actually I do have [TS]

00:52:04   questions like tell me the deal with [TS]

00:52:06   ground beef know what is the deal with [TS]

00:52:08   ground beef how much ecoli is actually [TS]

00:52:10   meant well apparently according to [TS]

00:52:13   according to our friends on that show [TS]

00:52:14   you gotta be careful because you can get [TS]

00:52:16   United beefs oh yeah oh yeah they were [TS]

00:52:19   coming in general they they ended up [TS]

00:52:21   saying yeah every bit of food out there [TS]

00:52:23   is poisonous you just have to decide how [TS]

00:52:25   much how much risk you're willing to [TS]

00:52:27   take and your brain a little bit but it [TS]

00:52:28   was like I was on there to talk about [TS]

00:52:30   that you know sous-vide cooking for one [TS]

00:52:32   thing like we're cooking a water bath [TS]

00:52:33   where there's this whole different model [TS]

00:52:35   i eat in the bath all the time you're [TS]

00:52:38   saying you cooking number [TS]

00:52:39   oh sorry it's a different slightly [TS]

00:52:41   different thing but there's no idea of [TS]

00:52:43   where they called kinetics the way the [TS]

00:52:45   kinetics work which I don't really [TS]

00:52:46   understand but like by the time we were [TS]

00:52:48   like half an hour into that show my mind [TS]

00:52:50   felt bent because i realize how little I [TS]

00:52:52   actually understood about this and here [TS]

00:52:54   we are two people who actually did [TS]

00:52:55   understand it and right in there they're [TS]

00:52:57   very articulate about entertaining and [TS]

00:52:59   the depth that big [TS]

00:53:00   icic what you're saying but it wasn't [TS]

00:53:02   like you had a profile up on corner and [TS]

00:53:06   there's no profile of me in existence [TS]

00:53:08   that ever mentions a tank because even [TS]

00:53:10   if I even as a military history buff [TS]

00:53:14   even as a super military hardware nerd [TS]

00:53:16   tanks are absolutely at the bottom of [TS]

00:53:20   what I'm interested in [TS]

00:53:21   I'm interested in airplanes i'm [TS]

00:53:23   interested in boats i'm interested in [TS]

00:53:24   strategy i'm interested in i'm [TS]

00:53:27   interested in guns i'm interested in [TS]

00:53:28   uniforms before I am interested in tanks [TS]

00:53:32   ok and they and all that stuff is way [TS]

00:53:35   way below my interest in like I mean I'm [TS]

00:53:38   more interested in bows and arrows five [TS]

00:53:40   there it was and I was getting into it [TS]

00:53:43   and so that there's another thing i [TS]

00:53:45   signed up for a UH an email from a guy [TS]

00:53:48   in England called worldwide words [TS]

00:53:52   oh yeah already talked about this and [TS]

00:53:54   it's just one of those etymology [TS]

00:53:55   podcasts where you're like this is [TS]

00:53:58   interesting where did that word come [TS]

00:53:59   from and and and so what I realized is [TS]

00:54:02   that what these things are doing for me [TS]

00:54:05   is I don't actually have that many [TS]

00:54:08   doorways into the internet like Laura [TS]

00:54:13   yes okay yes I know what you mean and [TS]

00:54:16   it's different than five or ten years [TS]

00:54:19   ago where there's like it seems like [TS]

00:54:22   there's an increasingly smaller number [TS]

00:54:24   of apertures to get you into something [TS]

00:54:27   yeah yeah well I mean I sit and look at [TS]

00:54:30   my phone all day but when you really [TS]

00:54:33   look at what I'm doing I'm only looking [TS]

00:54:35   at five places on the internet i'm [TS]

00:54:39   looking at i'm looking at Twitter i'm [TS]

00:54:41   looking at my email i'm looking at a [TS]

00:54:45   couple of games i play regularly i [TS]

00:54:48   occasionally and begrudgingly go to [TS]

00:54:51   facebook i go to instagram i do a little [TS]

00:54:54   snap chatting right but all of that is a [TS]

00:54:57   lot of it is broadcasting and looking at [TS]

00:54:59   what my friends are doing but I'm not [TS]

00:55:01   like it like there was a time when I [TS]

00:55:02   would go to likelike seven different [TS]

00:55:04   news sites every day Yeah Yeah right and [TS]

00:55:07   I and I only get to news sites via [TS]

00:55:09   Twitter I mean I use Twitter primarily [TS]

00:55:11   now as a as a link aggregator but like [TS]

00:55:15   you you you would send me things like [TS]

00:55:17   here's wolfrum app Alfre wrong reform [TS]

00:55:21   real fur [TS]

00:55:23   very cognizant and it'll tell you it'll [TS]

00:55:26   tell you like what the mean deviation of [TS]

00:55:29   the number of bugs in your food is what [TS]

00:55:32   I don't even remember what the hell that [TS]

00:55:33   site did but but I was always looking [TS]

00:55:36   like when I would go to medium it just [TS]

00:55:39   seemed like oh here's a bunch of blogs i [TS]

00:55:43   don't want to read other people's blogs [TS]

00:55:44   like I didn't have a way I still don't [TS]

00:55:48   have a way to really like suck the [TS]

00:55:51   marrow out of the internet and so [TS]

00:55:54   worldwide words was always a thing that [TS]

00:55:58   would get me going and I'd say well now [TS]

00:56:00   wait a minute how does how did the War [TS]

00:56:02   of the Roses pertain to the two how that [TS]

00:56:06   were suddenly fell into the parlance and [TS]

00:56:09   then I was off to the races right [TS]

00:56:10   wikipedia things a wikipedia is the [TS]

00:56:12   other major major place that I spend [TS]

00:56:15   time and lately I've been buying a lot [TS]

00:56:18   of filson jackets on ebay but let's [TS]

00:56:19   leave that aside because that's [TS]

00:56:21   embarrassing that counts that's an [TS]

00:56:22   aperture I don't like it though I don't [TS]

00:56:24   like it I don't want to be on ebay I'm [TS]

00:56:26   embarrassed to be there [TS]

00:56:27   I've become one of those people that [TS]

00:56:29   goes on ebay and and is the first bid on [TS]

00:56:32   like 90 things a bit like 20 bucks [TS]

00:56:35   the idea is to be the last one right [TS]

00:56:37   yeah I go on in like twenty bucks and [TS]

00:56:40   then and and I think it's just because [TS]

00:56:41   I'm lonely and I want to get emails from [TS]

00:56:44   ebay telling me I've been outbid [TS]

00:56:46   yeah so I'm going to box 20 bucks for [TS]

00:56:49   everything and I guess I'm hoping that [TS]

00:56:50   one of these things will be like people [TS]

00:56:53   won't go on ebay that day or something [TS]

00:56:55   and no one will see it and I'll get it [TS]

00:56:57   for twenty dollars that never happens [TS]

00:57:00   do you like that you like that part of [TS]

00:57:01   ebay do you like the the bidding part of [TS]

00:57:04   it is that so exciting to you [TS]

00:57:06   you mean like leasing someone two-bit no [TS]

00:57:09   I don't like it at all because they're [TS]

00:57:10   just want you want the thing you're not [TS]

00:57:12   there for that game [TS]

00:57:13   no I want the thing and i'm always [TS]

00:57:14   infuriated when I did a hundred and [TS]

00:57:16   fifty dollars on something and then the [TS]

00:57:18   person wins it [TS]

00:57:19   451 dollars it makes me mad because [TS]

00:57:22   hundred fifty dollars and a hundred $51 [TS]

00:57:24   is not that different but I wasn't [TS]

00:57:26   prepared to bit [TS]

00:57:27   280 and I'm not prepared to download one [TS]

00:57:29   of those like last-minute building [TS]

00:57:31   programs [TS]

00:57:32   everyone's always something really [TS]

00:57:34   matters to me i will remember when the [TS]

00:57:36   thing ends and I will I will go to my [TS]

00:57:38   computer at that moment and I'll sit on [TS]

00:57:40   my little tuffet and i'll wait until the [TS]

00:57:44   last seconds and then all right get into [TS]

00:57:46   this combat with what I imagine is [TS]

00:57:49   someone else but it's probably just [TS]

00:57:50   bought yeah and and I i almost always [TS]

00:57:53   lose and then I'm mad i stomp around i [TS]

00:57:57   lost a thing of the day they're not [TS]

00:57:59   stopping around for a long time blame [TS]

00:58:01   you but and that also is an aperture [TS]

00:58:03   into the internet because I'll see [TS]

00:58:04   things that I don't recognize and i will [TS]

00:58:06   say oh that's cool and then I'll google [TS]

00:58:08   what they are and then I'm going on then [TS]

00:58:10   I go down that rabbit hole but but the [TS]

00:58:13   that the tank thing has been a it's been [TS]

00:58:16   very interesting because it's like I it [TS]

00:58:20   brings me in to the web and news does [TS]

00:58:24   not I am NOT interested in news because [TS]

00:58:27   for a long long time I felt like news is [TS]

00:58:30   garbage and now especially news is [TS]

00:58:33   garbage there i like to go to feature [TS]

00:58:36   articles i like a feature article but i [TS]

00:58:39   do not want to know I do not want news [TS]

00:58:41   aggregated for me I don't like it it's [TS]

00:58:44   not it's not good for the soul but i [TS]

00:58:47   don't have an aggregator that that that [TS]

00:58:50   especially works for me i haven't [TS]

00:58:51   programmed something because how can you [TS]

00:58:54   how can you go on and say like I want to [TS]

00:58:56   read the most fascinating articles about [TS]

00:58:59   everything [TS]

00:59:00   yeah it's difficult to automate [TS]

00:59:01   serendipity yeah yeah yeah yeah how do [TS]

00:59:05   you how do you get how do you find a way [TS]

00:59:08   I thought about this a fair amount and I [TS]

00:59:12   mean I think about in the meeting at the [TS]

00:59:14   very beginning of when I was on the [TS]

00:59:16   internet but like when things were [TS]

00:59:17   getting really interesting by jose 96 97 [TS]

00:59:22   and yahoo was where you would go to find [TS]

00:59:27   stuff talk to accuse about this about [TS]

00:59:29   how back then you know you did not have [TS]

00:59:31   even if you want to something like all [TS]

00:59:33   TV star like a good search engine it was [TS]

00:59:35   still not as reliable as going somewhere [TS]

00:59:37   curated like yahoo because unlike a [TS]

00:59:39   search engine and people call Yahoo [TS]

00:59:41   search engine it had search [TS]

00:59:42   functionality but yeah I was [TS]

00:59:44   the directory and was kind of for a long [TS]

00:59:46   time it was the internet for us [TS]

00:59:48   consumers it was the you know canonical [TS]

00:59:50   directory of stuff and it was curated [TS]

00:59:53   and so what what what what i would do [TS]

00:59:54   that this is a an interesting skill that [TS]

00:59:57   kind of still sticks with me to this day [TS]

00:59:59   whether this [TS]

00:59:59   whether this [TS]

01:00:00   categories on wikipedia or whatever it's [TS]

01:00:02   not going to find something simple like [TS]

01:00:04   I'll go and find it i want to find [TS]

01:00:06   something in general and so i'll go to [TS]

01:00:08   an area i'll find something that's [TS]

01:00:10   similar to what i think i might want to [TS]

01:00:11   know about and now look at stuff kind of [TS]

01:00:13   around that time getting given category [TS]

01:00:15   and this is why for example like i said [TS]

01:00:17   this is why wikipedia categories are one [TS]

01:00:19   of my favorite things whether I don't [TS]

01:00:21   know what those are well it's difficult [TS]

01:00:23   on your phone because you won't see this [TS]

01:00:25   in the mobile view unless you turn off [TS]

01:00:27   mobile view but the bottom of the page [TS]

01:00:30   you'll see categories and you'll see [TS]

01:00:32   what [TS]

01:00:34   so you'll either see things like the [TS]

01:00:35   look if there's a portal for this thing [TS]

01:00:37   like if you're going in and you're [TS]

01:00:38   reading about a duration of the [TS]

01:00:43   Eucharist or whatever you'll see that's [TS]

01:00:45   part of this giant collection called [TS]

01:00:47   Catholicism and that might i'm not this [TS]

01:00:50   is in front of me right now but you [TS]

01:00:51   might see only his other kinds of things [TS]

01:00:52   that are you know sacred or sacraments [TS]

01:00:54   or whatever but it's a great way to like [TS]

01:00:56   not just I'm not sure exactly how to put [TS]

01:00:59   this instead of searching horizontally [TS]

01:01:01   your sort of searching vertically so you [TS]

01:01:03   can go and see like prominence [TS]

01:01:05   starcaster users not as a section of [TS]

01:01:07   pros but as like a programmatic like [TS]

01:01:10   when you click here you will get to a [TS]

01:01:12   page with all of these things and they [TS]

01:01:13   might even like I say there might even [TS]

01:01:14   be like a portal about it it's all about [TS]

01:01:16   this particular topic so that it uses so [TS]

01:01:19   I guess what I'm trying to say is that [TS]

01:01:20   like as a survival tactic to find stuff [TS]

01:01:22   on the internet or locate what you [TS]

01:01:24   thought you wanted on the internet at [TS]

01:01:26   first you have to be a little bit of a [TS]

01:01:28   detective where you had to go in and [TS]

01:01:30   evaluate what your options were and then [TS]

01:01:32   find things that were around it and now [TS]

01:01:34   today if you know exactly what you want [TS]

01:01:36   that's not difficult to find exactly [TS]

01:01:39   what you want but it's more like you [TS]

01:01:41   know tell me the things I don't know and [TS]

01:01:44   also where'd you find those discovery [TS]

01:01:46   mechanism time you learn about the [TS]

01:01:48   apertures that you never would have [TS]

01:01:49   known about Roland someone knocking on [TS]

01:01:52   my door which never happened [TS]

01:01:53   no dear and so let's go over and find [TS]

01:01:56   out what's going on all right [TS]

01:01:57   John's gonna go over and down it's a [TS]

01:01:59   little bit mr. Rogers here constant [TS]

01:02:02   addresses visitor [TS]

01:02:03   hello oh hi [TS]

01:02:06   it's sort of the phone [TS]

01:02:09   yeah it's a form of phone it's okay go [TS]

01:02:13   ahead [TS]

01:02:16   yeah there has been none but if I do I [TS]

01:02:25   will let you know I do have your number [TS]

01:02:28   mm-hmm that's not the point [TS]

01:02:34   the plot thickens so the other day I [TS]

01:02:37   need to cut that out [TS]

01:02:38   no no not at all ok the other the other [TS]

01:02:41   day I'm sitting here in my house [TS]

01:02:43   yeah and oh yeah your home right now i'm [TS]

01:02:47   at my house okay [TS]

01:02:48   the and also a two things to technology [TS]

01:02:52   related things today I'm going after [TS]

01:02:54   this podcast to my office to get the [TS]

01:02:56   internet restored their fine good [TS]

01:02:59   also i'm thinking about leaving AT&T but [TS]

01:03:02   we can talk about that separately does [TS]

01:03:06   that it does that interest you at all i [TS]

01:03:08   was getting a seltzer [TS]

01:03:09   yes and in fact haha I'm glad to see [TS]

01:03:14   that we have now we've just abandon all [TS]

01:03:17   pretense that we're not just going to [TS]

01:03:19   the refrigerator during the show [TS]

01:03:20   well someone's got to get my bucket you [TS]

01:03:22   know there's all kinds of things I gotta [TS]

01:03:23   do okay so hang on a minute let me let [TS]

01:03:25   me let me a traceback yourself so is [TS]

01:03:28   somebody who has a question about phone [TS]

01:03:31   and activity you're thinking about [TS]

01:03:34   leaving AT&T and second that's third and [TS]

01:03:37   then second and you're going to get your [TS]

01:03:39   internet fixed at the office right so [TS]

01:03:41   I'm going to go back to the office i'm [TS]

01:03:42   not going to be here with the dishwasher [TS]

01:03:44   running behind me while I'm podcasting [TS]

01:03:46   ok cool but anyway so she's like all of [TS]

01:03:49   us might might potentially get a lot [TS]

01:03:51   more useful if you got the internet [TS]

01:03:52   again [TS]

01:03:53   exactamundo my friend and the problem [TS]

01:03:55   with getting the internet restored there [TS]

01:03:57   was that the internet people were like [TS]

01:03:59   well great well we'll come you know week [TS]

01:04:01   from next wednesday anytime between 9am [TS]

01:04:04   and 7pm sound like cereal go sit in this [TS]

01:04:06   room with no internet for a while [TS]

01:04:08   yeah go sit in your office with no [TS]

01:04:09   internet and make you know do some make [TS]

01:04:11   work all day while we decide when to [TS]

01:04:13   come and I was like it doesn't work that [TS]

01:04:15   I want the internet was down there we [TS]

01:04:16   can't do it without you there and I'm [TS]

01:04:18   like yes you can you put it in when I [TS]

01:04:20   wasn't there anyway I finally thought [TS]

01:04:23   I'm going down there that you can use [TS]

01:04:25   logic on those people [TS]

01:04:27   I'm going down there right after i get [TS]

01:04:28   off the phone with you and I'm gonna sit [TS]

01:04:30   there all day in my office waiting for [TS]

01:04:32   them and then i'm going to get the [TS]

01:04:33   internet and lot of my problems will be [TS]

01:04:35   solved from then on [TS]

01:04:36   also i'm thinking about leaving 18 [TS]

01:04:38   people will get back to that there's a [TS]

01:04:41   knock on my door about a week ago which [TS]

01:04:44   never happens [TS]

01:04:45   I don't like it when it happens what are [TS]

01:04:47   you doing here how did you get inside my [TS]

01:04:48   gate my fence is falling down by the way [TS]

01:04:52   that's number four [TS]

01:04:55   so I open the door and there are two [TS]

01:04:57   people standing on a man and woman [TS]

01:04:59   standing on the porch and they have a [TS]

01:05:01   very distinctive look with distinctive [TS]

01:05:03   to me which is that look of women are [TS]

01:05:06   these people my age are they older or [TS]

01:05:10   younger than me i can't tell because [TS]

01:05:13   they're from a different culture they [TS]

01:05:15   are white people but she is wearing a [TS]

01:05:17   washington state cougars sweatshirt and [TS]

01:05:22   as you know i went to the university of [TS]

01:05:24   washington i'm a husky okay and they're [TS]

01:05:27   Cougars there from the Agricultural [TS]

01:05:29   College from across the state and right [TS]

01:05:32   away they just they seem like they're [TS]

01:05:33   sort of suburban people there Suburbans [TS]

01:05:35   and it's like are we the same age I [TS]

01:05:39   cannot tell because you seem older than [TS]

01:05:42   me because you are like a married couple [TS]

01:05:44   who are living a life you're living a [TS]

01:05:47   college sweatshirt that's that's going [TS]

01:05:49   to tell exactly right you're wearing a [TS]

01:05:51   college pitcher but you are clearly [TS]

01:05:53   living a life of adulthood where you [TS]

01:05:57   became adults earlier than I did [TS]

01:05:59   sure like I became an adult somewhere [TS]

01:06:01   around the 41 42 ok [TS]

01:06:03   arguably they became adults you can just [TS]

01:06:08   see it on and they became adults when [TS]

01:06:09   they were 21 [TS]

01:06:11   yeah and so they're standing on my porch [TS]

01:06:13   and I'm like Hello [TS]

01:06:15   normally when there's a knock on the [TS]

01:06:16   door at my house first of all it's not [TS]

01:06:18   white people and so just the fact that [TS]

01:06:20   they're white people is a unusual second [TS]

01:06:23   cougar sweatshirt which is very it's [TS]

01:06:27   just jen [TS]

01:06:28   really just sort of unusual and they [TS]

01:06:30   look like adults and I'm like hello how [TS]

01:06:32   may I help you how many serve you today [TS]

01:06:34   and she leans in conspiratorial II and [TS]

01:06:37   she says the house across the street by [TS]

01:06:41   which she means the house where Gary [TS]

01:06:44   lives in the house where Skeeter used to [TS]

01:06:47   live before he died of cirrhosis right [TS]

01:06:49   she said we just bought that house [TS]

01:06:52   that's auction [TS]

01:06:53   well and I was like what and she said [TS]

01:06:57   yeah it was foreclosed two foreclosed [TS]

01:06:59   upon two years ago and they've been [TS]

01:07:01   living there ever since and we just [TS]

01:07:03   bought a like a police auction basically [TS]

01:07:05   Wow and I said who the how and she was [TS]

01:07:09   like so like what's the deal with the [TS]

01:07:12   house across the street huh [TS]

01:07:15   okay and I looked across the street and [TS]

01:07:17   I've told you I think that they can [TS]

01:07:19   within the last year built a fence which [TS]

01:07:23   they forgot to put a gate him right they [TS]

01:07:25   built a fence because they were worried [TS]

01:07:27   neighborhood kids were breaking into [TS]

01:07:30   their house and stealing stuff when in [TS]

01:07:33   fact the neighborhood kids were not they [TS]

01:07:35   were either pawning that stuff and [TS]

01:07:37   forgetting they were bonding it or their [TS]

01:07:38   friends were stealing it [TS]

01:07:39   you know there's no way you had concerns [TS]

01:07:41   for a long time about the the foot [TS]

01:07:42   traffic in and out of the house while [TS]

01:07:44   that lady was maybe a deckhand a bedroom [TS]

01:07:45   or something no yeah i was like sketch [TS]

01:07:47   sketch Rama but instead of instead of [TS]

01:07:50   starting the bleeding in terms of like [TS]

01:07:53   don't let these people come by they [TS]

01:07:56   built a huge huge fence across the [TS]

01:07:59   entire front of their house and they [TS]

01:08:02   forgot to put a gate in it [TS]

01:08:03   I mean they put it like a big gate for [TS]

01:08:05   the car that immediately sag to the [TS]

01:08:08   point that it couldn't be opened but [TS]

01:08:10   they didn't put a human gait and so no [TS]

01:08:13   one could get in or out [TS]

01:08:14   they didn't realize this until the day [TS]

01:08:16   that the fence was finished and then it [TS]

01:08:18   was like it was like wait a minute we [TS]

01:08:22   can't get in around so they so they had [TS]

01:08:24   someone come and then put a gate isn't a [TS]

01:08:27   pretty significant design flaw that a [TS]

01:08:29   fence person would be thinking about [TS]

01:08:31   well the person that built the fence [TS]

01:08:34   I happen to know was not a fence person [TS]

01:08:36   he was a guy who came by one day in a [TS]

01:08:39   truck that said [TS]

01:08:40   we'll haul junk okay and he was there to [TS]

01:08:43   haul some junk out of her place and [TS]

01:08:46   while he was there they got into a [TS]

01:08:47   conversation she was like I need offense [TS]

01:08:49   and he said I'll build your friend mr. [TS]

01:08:51   chain-link fence [TS]

01:08:52   no it's a fence made out of boards it's [TS]

01:08:56   a cedar fence [TS]

01:08:57   Wow but not inexpensively done one you [TS]

01:09:00   know one where guy who hauls Trump was [TS]

01:09:02   target i can get all those parts define [TS]

01:09:06   make a pretty good deal for you made a [TS]

01:09:07   good deal and then once he was there and [TS]

01:09:10   then I you know I would come by and [TS]

01:09:11   saying you're making good progress on [TS]

01:09:12   the fence and then he would turn his [TS]

01:09:13   attention to my house and say you know I [TS]

01:09:16   could I could build your windmill and I [TS]

01:09:18   said you know not i'm not not interested [TS]

01:09:21   in having windmill on my property but I [TS]

01:09:22   don't think you're the guy if I'm gonna [TS]

01:09:25   build a windmill it's going to be up [TS]

01:09:27   it's going to be a licensed and bonded [TS]

01:09:28   windmill builder but let's leave that [TS]

01:09:31   aside so after they put up the fence and [TS]

01:09:34   after a jury-rigged a gate into it then [TS]

01:09:39   all of a sudden much signs showed up on [TS]

01:09:41   the fence that said security cameras in [TS]

01:09:43   effect [TS]

01:09:44   beware of dog like you know that don't [TS]

01:09:50   don't be don't be aware of dog beware of [TS]

01:09:52   owner don't beware of owner beware of [TS]

01:09:55   chemtrails like signs saber-rattling [TS]

01:09:58   yeah [TS]

01:09:59   do not do not enter no trespassing on [TS]

01:10:02   private property no parking like a lot [TS]

01:10:05   of signs they just went to the store and [TS]

01:10:07   they got every sign that said no on him [TS]

01:10:10   and they stapled them up all over this [TS]

01:10:12   fence and let me tell you it really [TS]

01:10:14   raises the the whole look and feel of [TS]

01:10:18   the neighborhood I'm like just shy of [TS]

01:10:19   like a radiation simple right [TS]

01:10:21   yeah they didn't go that far they didn't [TS]

01:10:23   say you know there's there's nothing in [TS]

01:10:25   a foreign language there's nothing has [TS]

01:10:27   octomom on it but you know like it's [TS]

01:10:30   only because they didn't have those [TS]

01:10:31   signs at the at the loews so the woman [TS]

01:10:35   in this in the Cougar sweatshirt is [TS]

01:10:38   standing on my porch and she's gesturing [TS]

01:10:39   over should you know gesturing with a [TS]

01:10:41   thumb over her shoulder like what the [TS]

01:10:43   hey we just bought this house [TS]

01:10:45   what can you tell me about it [TS]

01:10:47   and I said well let's just say that the [TS]

01:10:51   signs are more suggestive of like a [TS]

01:10:55   general on the other side of the fence [TS]

01:10:58   there's a general mood and the signs are [TS]

01:11:01   more suggestive of the mood than they [TS]

01:11:03   are of any actual surveillance dogs guns [TS]

01:11:06   or anything else Gary is very [TS]

01:11:09   unpredictable but also also very [TS]

01:11:12   predictable in that you can predict that [TS]

01:11:15   every night at one o'clock in the [TS]

01:11:16   morning you'll be standing in the middle [TS]

01:11:17   of the street yelling at the moon and [TS]

01:11:20   he's mad at the moon because the moon [TS]

01:11:21   took his kids but otherwise I mean I [TS]

01:11:26   don't know what to tell you [TS]

01:11:27   so that was big news because I've gone [TS]

01:11:30   on the internet this is another portal [TS]

01:11:33   to the Internet [TS]

01:11:34   I've got on the internet and I've done a [TS]

01:11:35   property record search and I knew that [TS]

01:11:37   the house was in foreclosure but it had [TS]

01:11:40   been in foreclosure a long time and in [TS]

01:11:43   washington state at least your house can [TS]

01:11:45   be foreclosed upon and you can continue [TS]

01:11:48   to live there for a long time and [TS]

01:11:51   surprised on and so I was like well you [TS]

01:11:55   know it's just [TS]

01:11:57   times are changing over there I don't [TS]

01:11:58   want I don't want her to lose the house [TS]

01:12:00   but I also don't want Gary living in the [TS]

01:12:03   front yard and his fan anymore [TS]

01:12:05   yeah nothing against Kerry I just don't [TS]

01:12:09   you know if somebody in this [TS]

01:12:11   neighborhood is going to yell at the [TS]

01:12:12   mood about how it took his kids I wanted [TS]

01:12:13   to be me [TS]

01:12:14   yeah yeah anyway so now the home is [TS]

01:12:17   owned but can I mean you know it's a [TS]

01:12:20   long time to kind of have to put up with [TS]

01:12:23   that [TS]

01:12:24   yeah and I mean once I became once i [TS]

01:12:27   became good pals with Gary and [TS]

01:12:29   understood his travails my sympathy for [TS]

01:12:34   him kept me from a calling the police [TS]

01:12:39   it kept me from threatening to call the [TS]

01:12:40   police because I I'm not a person that [TS]

01:12:42   wants to threaten to call the police [TS]

01:12:44   yeah because it's not something that you [TS]

01:12:46   need to threaten if you're all the way [TS]

01:12:47   to the point of calling the police then [TS]

01:12:49   column you and I've been around [TS]

01:12:52   block on this police thing oh yeah i [TS]

01:12:54   think it's it seems like there's am at [TS]

01:12:58   least if you're kind of raised in the [TS]

01:12:59   suburbs impulse of treating the police [TS]

01:13:02   sort of like your dad you know it might [TS]

01:13:05   don't call the police on let's well that [TS]

01:13:08   there's this sense of like well yeah but [TS]

01:13:10   like there's something suspicious here [TS]

01:13:12   or something i'm not comfortable with [TS]

01:13:13   and I need them to go like check it out [TS]

01:13:15   for me yeah right order and even my like [TS]

01:13:18   it's something suspicious and I'm not [TS]

01:13:20   comfortable with it all go check it out [TS]

01:13:22   you might know something where it's like [TS]

01:13:23   these people need to be arrested or [TS]

01:13:25   somebody looked clear and present danger [TS]

01:13:27   right then you call the police and you [TS]

01:13:29   say without you know in no uncertain [TS]

01:13:31   terms police [TS]

01:13:33   here's the problem right get my and you [TS]

01:13:36   know when my next door neighbor was out [TS]

01:13:38   in the street firing his pistol in the [TS]

01:13:39   air i didn't call the police because I [TS]

01:13:41   find him to be a reasonable man [TS]

01:13:42   accepting his daughter had snuck out [TS]

01:13:44   alright yeah some guy it snuck into his [TS]

01:13:46   daughter's room that is ok jumped out [TS]

01:13:48   the window and onto the roof and down [TS]

01:13:50   into the street and that seem reasonable [TS]

01:13:51   to me of course your fire pistol and his [TS]

01:13:53   reasons he had his reasons and I trust [TS]

01:13:55   him [TS]

01:13:56   generally I don't trust Gary but after i [TS]

01:14:00   realized Gary was you know was [TS]

01:14:02   predictable in his in his moods then I [TS]

01:14:06   was like at you know I have more [TS]

01:14:09   problems with the rooster then I do with [TS]

01:14:12   Gary because Gary's yelling things at [TS]

01:14:14   one thirty in the morning which is kind [TS]

01:14:16   of the middle of my day whereas the [TS]

01:14:17   route starts at dawn [TS]

01:14:19   yeah she's but now I'm concerned I'm [TS]

01:14:22   concerned that she's losing her house I [TS]

01:14:24   think she has family upstate we don't [TS]

01:14:27   say upstate here but that's that's the [TS]

01:14:30   the best definition of it [TS]

01:14:31   write-ups upstate is not a thing we say [TS]

01:14:33   in Washington we don't say the five [TS]

01:14:36   either [TS]

01:14:36   oh that's definitely thing and we don't [TS]

01:14:39   say the pot you don't say it in San [TS]

01:14:42   Francisco either because the be [TS]

01:14:43   described like yeah thats its creeping [TS]

01:14:45   into the culture here but I five doesn't [TS]

01:14:47   mean anything to you guys slow but [TS]

01:14:49   people might say that 280 and it's [TS]

01:14:51   considered Bay Area thinkin to to leave [TS]

01:14:53   off the definite article that the answer [TS]

01:14:55   is considered a very la thing to look at [TS]

01:14:58   the definite article in front of a [TS]

01:14:59   number for highway the 1005 [TS]

01:15:03   matter with those big ham but now now [TS]

01:15:07   I'm I've been deputized basically by the [TS]

01:15:10   cougar lady not of my own accord but she [TS]

01:15:12   gave me the number [TS]

01:15:13   her number and she said if anything goes [TS]

01:15:15   on over there we be sure to give me a [TS]

01:15:17   call [TS]

01:15:17   interesting okay i see ok the stories [TS]

01:15:20   all coming together and I was like boom [TS]

01:15:22   all right well if anything goes on over [TS]

01:15:24   there [TS]

01:15:24   you're definitely on the list of people [TS]

01:15:26   i'm gonna call now [TS]

01:15:28   yeah there was you know there was always [TS]

01:15:30   a list of people i was going to call the [TS]

01:15:31   fire department the Environmental [TS]

01:15:34   Protection Agency anyway so she just [TS]

01:15:36   appeared on the porch and answer the [TS]

01:15:39   door and this is but this is going to [TS]

01:15:41   shock and and appalled you i think but [TS]

01:15:43   I'm in my underwear [TS]

01:15:45   ok and i'm wearing a I'm wearing [TS]

01:15:48   headphones and I'm and I have a [TS]

01:15:51   microphone yeah my own John you should [TS]

01:15:53   be comfortable [TS]

01:15:54   that's right i have actually you know [TS]

01:15:55   the microphone i use is called Abby [TS]

01:15:57   caster so this is the one you have to [TS]

01:16:00   put on your chest [TS]

01:16:01   yeah I've got my be castor it's not [TS]

01:16:03   currently on my chest but it's on my [TS]

01:16:05   dining room table I've got my laptop so [TS]

01:16:07   i pick up the laptop the be castor the [TS]

01:16:10   headphones the underwear i go to the [TS]

01:16:14   front door and I opened and I'm just [TS]

01:16:15   standing there in all my glory didn't [TS]

01:16:18   check that didn't come across the audio [TS]

01:16:19   but it really doesn't really add [TS]

01:16:21   something to the picture [TS]

01:16:22   well and you know and you her eyes got [TS]

01:16:24   wide and she said are you on the phone [TS]

01:16:27   said you know you heard it [TS]

01:16:30   you were right here with me anyway she [TS]

01:16:32   said yeah cheek sorry deputize me I [TS]

01:16:35   don't know if I made it clear but i want [TS]

01:16:38   you if there's any activity over there [TS]

01:16:41   and she kind of gave up like an i [TS]

01:16:42   gesture to the effect of if they're [TS]

01:16:45   moving out or if they're like stealing [TS]

01:16:47   the copper plumbing or something as [TS]

01:16:49   they're leaving OIC I say what you want [TS]

01:16:51   to give me a call because I don't want [TS]

01:16:53   it to be one of those situations where [TS]

01:16:54   there's no wall bourgogne got it ok I [TS]

01:16:57   see its own how you wanted this role [TS]

01:17:00   John no no she didn't but but i think i [TS]

01:17:05   think having had a conversation with her [TS]

01:17:08   now she considers me an ally because and [TS]

01:17:14   I said to them when they were on my [TS]

01:17:15   porch because it's because her husband [TS]

01:17:17   was fairly quiet and I said you guys do [TS]

01:17:19   this a lot you buy houses at auction and [TS]

01:17:22   around and they're like oh yeah it's [TS]

01:17:24   kind of our it's our thing I want my [TS]

01:17:27   husband's a contractor and icicic and so [TS]

01:17:32   this was another this was another [TS]

01:17:33   indicator that they were grown-ups in [TS]

01:17:37   that what they do as a couple is not go [TS]

01:17:41   golfing it isn't a you know they don't [TS]

01:17:45   go to Thailand they don't they don't [TS]

01:17:47   race cars there thing is let's go buy [TS]

01:17:51   houses at auction fix them up and sell [TS]

01:17:52   got it and I was like what a very [TS]

01:17:56   interesting like husband-wife thing you [TS]

01:17:59   know like they do this together [TS]

01:18:00   it's almost a kind of entrepreneurship [TS]

01:18:02   absolutely but it's also absolutely has [TS]

01:18:05   to be a hobby they have to like to go to [TS]

01:18:07   auctions yeah they have to know what [TS]

01:18:09   their you know buying a house is no [TS]

01:18:11   small thing they have to know what [TS]

01:18:12   they're getting into [TS]

01:18:13   I'm betting that she handles the [TS]

01:18:15   financials I say either so let that [TS]

01:18:19   happen sometimes with people who sell [TS]

01:18:20   real estate together [TS]

01:18:21   mm no I mean when you got a couple that [TS]

01:18:23   does real estate that kind of break up [TS]

01:18:25   the the works that they have a project [TS]

01:18:27   together but they also have their own [TS]

01:18:29   important roles right so she's doing all [TS]

01:18:32   the financial stuff which is probably no [TS]

01:18:34   small potato and then she's the one that [TS]

01:18:37   knocks on the door and she's the one [TS]

01:18:39   that says hi neighbor here's the deal [TS]

01:18:41   here's our new plant we're going to be [TS]

01:18:42   working on the house across the street [TS]

01:18:43   and we're trying to do a nice job and [TS]

01:18:46   get and he just standing there he's [TS]

01:18:48   looking at his boots the whole time [TS]

01:18:49   chef one and he's thinking to himself I [TS]

01:18:52   wonder how I wonder how cheaply I can [TS]

01:18:54   redo the bathroom with book learning [TS]

01:18:55   college sweatshirts he had on what you [TS]

01:18:59   would call contractor close [TS]

01:19:01   ok which I think of as like a clean [TS]

01:19:05   heart kind of thing [TS]

01:19:06   well but he's the supervisor right let's [TS]

01:19:08   shoot he's the owner/operator of a plant [TS]

01:19:11   plaid shirt yeah he's though he's [TS]

01:19:13   licensed and bonded he doesn't need two [TS]

01:19:15   keys not wearing a tool belt anymore but [TS]

01:19:18   when the work is getting done he's not [TS]

01:19:20   above swinging a hammer [TS]

01:19:21   you know because he's sweet small [TS]

01:19:23   independent contractor but but he [TS]

01:19:26   definitely he definitely is like on the [TS]

01:19:28   up-and-up with the city in the county [TS]

01:19:30   he's not he's not he's not doing it [TS]

01:19:32   under the under the table he's a [TS]

01:19:34   straight shooter got it cut and I'm i [TS]

01:19:37   didn't see their car but one hundred [TS]

01:19:39   percent i bet it is a dodge ram truck [TS]

01:19:43   with and I think it's the 2500 if you [TS]

01:19:46   see a dodge ram 1500 that could be just [TS]

01:19:50   a regular person is that you look like [TS]

01:19:52   an f-150 [TS]

01:19:53   yeah so you're talking about okay i see [TS]

01:19:55   interesting because f-150 is like that's [TS]

01:19:57   a consumer pickup truck with all due [TS]

01:19:58   respect [TS]

01:19:59   yeah that's a half-time happen to have [TS]

01:20:00   done okay okay and if you see somebody [TS]

01:20:02   in a dodge 1 1500 you think oh they went [TS]

01:20:05   to the day when truck shop at the condé [TS]

01:20:08   truck yeah they chose the during the [TS]

01:20:11   time just sayin like that's a definite [TS]

01:20:13   go to costco kind of truck or put you in [TS]

01:20:15   a canoe in the backcountry [TS]

01:20:16   yeah but can you in the back or you're [TS]

01:20:18   just somebody that wants a pickup truck [TS]

01:20:19   because that's the that's the look [TS]

01:20:20   you're going for [TS]

01:20:22   or you figure yet you figure you're [TS]

01:20:24   gonna have to haul your bicycles or [TS]

01:20:26   maybe your it's a real truck then you're [TS]

01:20:28   doing real work but you chose a ton [TS]

01:20:30   pickup and that seems to me like [TS]

01:20:33   features Chevy if you chose bored of you [TS]

01:20:35   chosen dodge that's just aesthetic ok [TS]

01:20:39   now at dodge 2500 diesel truck that was [TS]

01:20:44   like extra tires [TS]

01:20:45   no that's not one of those that's just [TS]

01:20:48   the 2500 is like you're you are going to [TS]

01:20:50   use this truck [TS]

01:20:51   it's a working truck you're working [TS]

01:20:53   person and you chosen the Dodge because [TS]

01:20:55   it can it communicates to you [TS]

01:20:57   less lip agility and more like I'm going [TS]

01:21:01   to work here and this is the this is but [TS]

01:21:03   this is a truck didn't look at that [TS]

01:21:05   thing [TS]

01:21:06   Oh work that's a Pilatus it's like a [TS]

01:21:08   bulldog it sold out now if you see [TS]

01:21:12   someone driving a dodge 3500 who it is [TS]

01:21:17   almost ninety nine percent sure that [TS]

01:21:20   that person is an asshole [TS]

01:21:21   ok [TS]

01:21:22   but up that ok [TS]

01:21:31   what haha how did you how did you get to [TS]

01:21:34   that I think I'll because you can just [TS]

01:21:37   tell experience bears this out okay that [TS]

01:21:40   that is the truck of choice for people [TS]

01:21:43   who for people who like burn coal now [TS]

01:21:48   this one does [TS]

01:21:49   you can get this with the flared fenders [TS]

01:21:51   right the ship the extra wheel and it's [TS]

01:21:52   my understanding the extra wheel on [TS]

01:21:54   there is because you're carrying things [TS]

01:21:55   that are so heavy you would literally [TS]

01:21:57   pop your tires because of the heaviness [TS]

01:21:58   or towing if you're towing a big big big [TS]

01:22:02   trailer more ground surface [TS]

01:22:05   yeah you're gonna be horse trailer or [TS]

01:22:07   something here you know you're gonna [TS]

01:22:08   want the extra the Dooleys as they're [TS]

01:22:10   called Julie's huh and almost almost [TS]

01:22:14   universally those are now diesel-powered [TS]

01:22:16   their big cummins diesel engines and [TS]

01:22:19   they're there they're super macho and if [TS]

01:22:24   you're pulling a horse trailer [TS]

01:22:26   let's let me say this if you're driving [TS]

01:22:28   at 3,500 dodge 3500 and you are pulling [TS]

01:22:31   a horse trailer i will give you one [TS]

01:22:34   opportunity to prove you're not an [TS]

01:22:36   asshole [TS]

01:22:36   ok but but that's the only dispensation [TS]

01:22:39   i will offer everyone else is an asshole [TS]

01:22:42   and if you ever see a 32-bit you ever [TS]

01:22:44   see somebody burning coal which is to [TS]

01:22:47   say that they have modified their diesel [TS]

01:22:49   motor so that it creates intentionally [TS]

01:22:52   creates big clouds of black smoke as a [TS]

01:22:55   as a fuck you two environmentalist your [TS]

01:22:59   your 1% driving a dodge 3500 and you [TS]

01:23:02   don't see that you don't see the coal [TS]

01:23:03   burning so much in the 1500 no no no why [TS]

01:23:06   would what a 15-minute you just bought a [TS]

01:23:08   truck you just bought a truck you're [TS]

01:23:10   driving around in a truck dodge truck [TS]

01:23:11   around we don't have two trucks like you [TS]

01:23:14   can take care of that [TS]

01:23:15   that's your truck engine it's your it's [TS]

01:23:17   your car yeah when you're driving out in [TS]

01:23:20   America i'm not talking about here on [TS]

01:23:22   the coasts where people are you know [TS]

01:23:24   living in their ivory towers and sipping [TS]

01:23:26   wine out of [TS]

01:23:27   little classes and lifting their pinkies [TS]

01:23:30   and stuff when they drink coffee [TS]

01:23:32   I'm talking about out in america in the [TS]

01:23:33   united states of america places like the [TS]

01:23:37   Dakotas or the Nebraska's you will find [TS]

01:23:42   that every every every single person is [TS]

01:23:45   driving a truck now there are no cars in [TS]

01:23:47   those places they've eliminated all cars [TS]

01:23:50   everyone is driving a truck and the [TS]

01:23:52   trucks are just there in an arms race to [TS]

01:23:54   see who can be the biggest asshole like [TS]

01:23:57   and the truck is the way of [TS]

01:23:58   communicating that the truck if that is [TS]

01:24:00   the case then just having a truck is [TS]

01:24:02   table stakes like you yeah we're not [TS]

01:24:05   gonna get to really participate in the s [TS]

01:24:07   operate unless you have one is time [TS]

01:24:08   agreeing because i don't have the [TS]

01:24:09   experience with it but I'm just trying [TS]

01:24:11   to understand [TS]

01:24:12   yeah if you're just driving a truck yeah [TS]

01:24:13   your steps just normal you're just the [TS]

01:24:15   normal and if you're driving a [TS]

01:24:16   three-quarter ton truck [TS]

01:24:19   it's like yeah i live in Nebraska i'm [TS]

01:24:21   doing stuff I got able to move around [TS]

01:24:23   who even if i'm a college professor i [TS]

01:24:25   probably have hay bales to move around [TS]

01:24:26   because because uh that's what my [TS]

01:24:29   students it on at the University of [TS]

01:24:31   Nebraska ok right and if you've ever [TS]

01:24:33   been to University braska lecture hall [TS]

01:24:35   it's just hay bales kind of stacked up [TS]

01:24:37   in a like a grandstand that seems good [TS]

01:24:40   use of the environment [TS]

01:24:41   what's that was the mascot of the [TS]

01:24:43   Nebraska team is not the Cornhuskers is [TS]

01:24:44   it [TS]

01:24:45   yeah is it the other husking corn total [TS]

01:24:48   hay bales to to build corn bales for the [TS]

01:24:52   university [TS]

01:24:53   oh it's a whole biome yeah and since [TS]

01:24:54   we're gonna learn about corn you sit on [TS]

01:24:56   corn your hall corn you teach corn you [TS]

01:24:59   use corn to the thicken saw score all [TS]

01:25:01   the way down you put corn in your truck [TS]

01:25:04   but not it not if you're driving a [TS]

01:25:07   diesel mhm but you because it was the [TS]

01:25:10   ethanol ethanol is a gasoline product [TS]

01:25:14   made out of corn [TS]

01:25:15   ok I think if it's made out of corn it's [TS]

01:25:17   technically called court ball [TS]

01:25:19   corn dogs and Simpson that's respect and [TS]

01:25:24   corn appalled was that was that great [TS]

01:25:26   city in Greece who and there was also a [TS]

01:25:28   book of the bible i think you have [TS]

01:25:29   played on a brilliant corners by the [TS]

01:25:31   loneliest monk brother really corn rolls [TS]

01:25:35   that the history of Nebraska and channel [TS]

01:25:40   yeah but probably it's very nice [TS]

01:25:41   probably taught at the university when [TS]

01:25:43   they teach the history it's probably [TS]

01:25:45   time to buy a corn corn corn is does the [TS]

01:25:47   medium well so university of nebraska is [TS]

01:25:50   the intellectual school of Nebraska [TS]

01:25:53   Nebraska State College dog doesn't it's [TS]

01:25:56   where they really that's the real Aggie [TS]

01:25:59   school and that's where they teach you [TS]

01:26:01   how to burn coal that's where they're [TS]

01:26:02   really in their corn there there there [TS]

01:26:04   in their corns and they all have corns [TS]

01:26:07   on their feet uh-huh [TS]

01:26:09   it's really really really corny like [TS]

01:26:11   sympathy weight when somebody gets [TS]

01:26:12   pregnant he just gets there so much corn [TS]

01:26:14   that cause corns corn is what's [TS]

01:26:16   happening a sympathy weight yeah it's [TS]

01:26:19   like sympathy weight it's like shaving [TS]

01:26:21   your head when your friend is going [TS]

01:26:22   through chemo that's a nice thing to do [TS]

01:26:23   not see in my head I feel like I [TS]

01:26:26   associate Iowa with corn [TS]

01:26:28   mm but you know I because I think a lot [TS]

01:26:30   of what I I'm not to say what i learned [TS]

01:26:32   i think a lot of what I retained about [TS]

01:26:34   America came from maps on placemats [TS]

01:26:37   where there was one item associated with [TS]

01:26:39   every state i think corn was on iowa [TS]

01:26:42   right and what was the brassica I was it [TS]

01:26:46   was a Dodge truck know and now sort of [TS]

01:26:50   Florida you get you get an orange may be [TS]

01:26:52   right out [TS]

01:26:53   continue get an apple apple do they stop [TS]

01:26:56   by three [TS]

01:26:57   okay yeah what the pine trees being [TS]

01:26:59   maybe Oregon [TS]

01:27:01   oh IC IC but you know if you need and [TS]

01:27:03   that's a lot night let's be honest a [TS]

01:27:05   little bit reductive to bring it down to [TS]

01:27:06   a single item [TS]

01:27:08   yeah i think there are more pine trees [TS]

01:27:09   in Washington Oregon but you're right [TS]

01:27:11   Oregon have gets the country as their [TS]

01:27:13   emblem I think back then organs should [TS]

01:27:15   be like a handmade wooden wouldn't [TS]

01:27:17   wallet [TS]

01:27:17   nowadays right nowadays a handmade [TS]

01:27:20   wooden wallet or somebody in a [TS]

01:27:22   Shakespearean costume standing on one [TS]

01:27:24   toe [TS]

01:27:26   the flute from Nebraska at the time I [TS]

01:27:31   think what on that place math would have [TS]

01:27:33   been a would have been like indicated by [TS]

01:27:36   some jello with little fruit bits in it [TS]

01:27:38   hmm i miss that i miss that but if you [TS]

01:27:42   think about corn-fed beef was corn-fed [TS]

01:27:44   beef coming from [TS]

01:27:46   ok so that's more about beef and corn [TS]

01:27:50   well but you can't have beef without the [TS]

01:27:52   corn the corn it's gotta come from [TS]

01:27:54   somewhere [TS]

01:27:55   yep and I don't think it isn't like [TS]

01:27:57   you're just taking your heard you say hi [TS]

01:27:59   a slap on the button sentimiento [TS]

01:28:00   cornfield [TS]

01:28:01   no he's not know you guys does not a [TS]

01:28:03   corn maze for steer you got a husk that [TS]

01:28:06   corn you gotta shut that corner got a [TS]

01:28:08   tote that barge and lift that bale and [TS]

01:28:10   you gotta bail the girls in your 2500 a [TS]

01:28:12   little drunk and land in jail and yeah [TS]

01:28:14   okay well even before there were 2,500 [TS]

01:28:17   people were doing this with horse-drawn [TS]

01:28:18   I don't know the answer on miss colorado [TS]

01:28:20   what were you doing corn-fed beef comes [TS]

01:28:22   from so i've been corn-fed beef is a [TS]

01:28:25   real Nebraska thing they're real proud [TS]

01:28:27   of it and I think they're not shipping [TS]

01:28:29   let's just stay they're not shipping [TS]

01:28:31   that corn from Iowa you know what I mean [TS]

01:28:33   that's locally grown locally sourced ok [TS]

01:28:36   oh it's farm-to-table corn right and [TS]

01:28:39   we're gonna let me guess it's farm to [TS]

01:28:40   form farm-to-table to farm-to-table farm [TS]

01:28:44   that goes right to the steer you know [TS]

01:28:46   it's just the form goes the corn goes [TS]

01:28:48   through the steer through you and [TS]

01:28:50   back-to-the-land hakuna matata but so [TS]

01:28:53   now what days if you go so back in the [TS]

01:28:56   day when you would go into a restaurant [TS]

01:28:57   you get a corn-fed beef and anna and a [TS]

01:29:00   wedge salad [TS]

01:29:01   mhm it drink 14 gin martinis and then [TS]

01:29:04   you'd sign the contract [TS]

01:29:06   those days are gone my friend and now [TS]

01:29:08   nowadays if you're going into a [TS]

01:29:10   restaurant that's called The Walrus and [TS]

01:29:11   the spaghetti squash you're going to [TS]

01:29:16   find that call that you don't want to be [TS]

01:29:18   fed by close one of those one of those [TS]

01:29:19   logos that has like an X made out of [TS]

01:29:22   like a fork and knife and it's got four [TS]

01:29:23   letters in it like that kind of note [TS]

01:29:25   that logo is called but like the the [TS]

01:29:27   Portland logo [TS]

01:29:28   yeah SQ ed [TS]

01:29:30   or uh yeah that's kew order this is the [TS]

01:29:33   whale and the squid the spaghetti squash [TS]

01:29:35   what's going on [TS]

01:29:36   yeah the work wale and then square in [TS]

01:29:38   the spaghetti sauce if their spaghetti [TS]

01:29:42   sauce I'm sorry spaghetti squash not [TS]

01:29:44   spaghetti sauce that's a different place [TS]

01:29:45   yeah have you ever have you ever made us [TS]

01:29:47   spaghetti squash know I've seen photos i [TS]

01:29:50   think it might have seen him in person [TS]

01:29:51   but I'm i feel like the the inside kind [TS]

01:29:55   of freaked me out [TS]

01:29:56   yeah I tried at 1.2 i try to 1.2 say [TS]

01:30:03   like yes okay I'm gonna be a person that [TS]

01:30:05   eats spaghetti squash okay and I tried [TS]

01:30:10   it and sure it it's a food it's an [TS]

01:30:16   edible food but it isn't spaghetti and [TS]

01:30:20   so let's stop pretending [TS]

01:30:22   yeah it's sort of like carob spaghetti [TS]

01:30:24   squash is the carib of start just care [TS]

01:30:27   of the lines like fake chocolate shake [TS]

01:30:29   doclet they used to get in the nineteen [TS]

01:30:31   seventies you go over to a hippie house [TS]

01:30:32   and they say what you like a cookie [TS]

01:30:34   well yes I always wanna cookie it's a [TS]

01:30:37   chocolate chip cookie dough i'll take [TS]

01:30:39   always take a chocolate chip cookie and [TS]

01:30:40   then you need it's like that's not [TS]

01:30:41   chocolate [TS]

01:30:42   that's some kind of that's a that's [TS]

01:30:44   a--that's a prank as a chocolate-chip [TS]

01:30:45   style cookie product [TS]

01:30:47   yeah it's a bitter that's a bitter root [TS]

01:30:49   you put in there yeah but so nowadays [TS]

01:30:52   you don't want corn in your beef and I [TS]

01:30:56   think there was something called corn [TS]

01:30:57   finishing where you let you let a cow [TS]

01:30:59   just wander around eat grass and then [TS]

01:31:01   right at the end you put in a stockyard [TS]

01:31:03   you'd beat corn like get all the corner [TS]

01:31:06   only handle one little amuse-bouche [TS]

01:31:07   before the end [TS]

01:31:09   mm and so it is so that's how it gets [TS]

01:31:11   all the fat the marbled fatkins just [TS]

01:31:12   eating sugar corn but nowadays you don't [TS]

01:31:16   want that you want to count to live in a [TS]

01:31:18   bucolic environment you wanted to eat [TS]

01:31:20   alfalfa until it's very last moment yep [TS]

01:31:22   you want the counter have a name you [TS]

01:31:25   want there to be a little girl in [TS]

01:31:27   pigtails that takes little flowers and a [TS]

01:31:30   basket outside its got like an [TS]

01:31:31   associate's degree the cow [TS]

01:31:33   yeah yeah from the egg school no yes [TS]

01:31:36   indeed yeah absolutely absolutely yeah [TS]

01:31:39   his tracks 200 really really macho my [TS]

01:31:42   goodness 3500 right it's just if you see [TS]

01:31:46   a truck with a confederate flag in the [TS]

01:31:48   back window ninety-nine percent of the [TS]

01:31:50   time [TS]

01:31:51   well now wait a minute i think of dodge [TS]

01:31:53   ram 3500 as very much being in Nebraska [TS]

01:31:56   South Dakota truck maybe as far as [TS]

01:32:00   Missouri but I think when you get down [TS]

01:32:01   into the South like I think of an [TS]

01:32:04   Alabama truckers being a Chevrolet okay [TS]

01:32:06   and like an eagle you know it's hard to [TS]

01:32:12   be like the f250 right is the standard [TS]

01:32:15   truck but i'm going to say that f 250 is [TS]

01:32:18   somewhere do it you know they're they're [TS]

01:32:19   doing farming in in ohio they're doing [TS]

01:32:23   farming in Michigan law just add this is [TS]

01:32:26   just a random data point but as he as [TS]

01:32:28   you probably know like my neighborhood [TS]

01:32:30   if there are people who are trades [TS]

01:32:32   people there are a lot of those the sort [TS]

01:32:34   of folks who live in my neighborhood and [TS]

01:32:35   there are a lot of white pickup trucks [TS]

01:32:37   and i'm going to say the preponderance [TS]

01:32:39   is forwards and Toyotas now this is [TS]

01:32:41   Captain Sisko right but it's a lot of [TS]

01:32:44   what we're going to scroll forward 150 [TS]

01:32:48   arm sort of paradigm sighs trucks and [TS]

01:32:53   boy lot of them have the crap beat out [TS]

01:32:55   of him these are these are people who do [TS]

01:32:57   all kinds of different stuff its stated [TS]

01:32:59   these are not costco trucks they are [TS]

01:33:00   really really using these and I think in [TS]

01:33:02   some cases it's like what they could [TS]

01:33:03   afford and what they'll use rubber [TS]

01:33:05   because that's kind of vibe in the [TS]

01:33:06   neighborhood so I think that's true that [TS]

01:33:08   is the the the for the reason the Fords [TS]

01:33:11   are the best selling trucks are always [TS]

01:33:13   were [TS]

01:33:13   is that they're just used by everybody [TS]

01:33:16   it's not a thing that you're driving [TS]

01:33:17   around with a camouflage baseball hat [TS]

01:33:19   and I've been a piece of school in your [TS]

01:33:21   mouth it's a thing where you're going to [TS]

01:33:23   need you need a truck to get the kind of [TS]

01:33:25   stuff it doesn't like little step and [TS]

01:33:27   it's not like you mean it doesn't that [TS]

01:33:28   sort of tricked-out like I'm here to [TS]

01:33:30   make a statement about being a truck [TS]

01:33:32   it's got a shop back on the side and the [TS]

01:33:34   the lock the door lock has been pinged [TS]

01:33:37   out and it's been replaced with a [TS]

01:33:38   padlock know she'll be the ignition is [TS]

01:33:41   probably gone and you start with a [TS]

01:33:43   screwdriver [TS]

01:33:45   are you doing driving far that you [TS]

01:33:46   started with a screwdriver no that's the [TS]

01:33:49   thing [TS]

01:33:50   um are you feeling good about your role [TS]

01:33:53   with this this new of potential neighbor [TS]

01:33:57   contractor of years ago [TS]

01:33:58   do you feel like are you feeling we do i [TS]

01:34:01   put this way will you know when it's [TS]

01:34:02   time to give her a call [TS]

01:34:04   well so what I'm guessing is that when [TS]

01:34:08   they finally go because i'm i'm on good [TS]

01:34:12   terms with her I don't know if I've ever [TS]

01:34:14   mention her name i think i have [TS]

01:34:15   intensified Octavia but you have you [TS]

01:34:18   been [TS]

01:34:19   it's something historically if memory [TS]

01:34:21   serves like you have been friendly with [TS]

01:34:23   her you have been kind of worried about [TS]

01:34:24   her you sort of checked in on her and [TS]

01:34:26   just generally wish for goodwill for her [TS]

01:34:29   yea even more than friendly with their I [TS]

01:34:31   feel like I'm her friend and she has [TS]

01:34:33   only very occasionally called me on the [TS]

01:34:35   phone and one time she broached sheep [TS]

01:34:39   she tried to bridge [TS]

01:34:41   she tried to build a bridge over my [TS]

01:34:44   River Kwai who which was she came to me [TS]

01:34:47   and asked me for a loan to build the [TS]

01:34:50   fence this fence that I'm the Spence [TS]

01:34:52   that have to stare at all day and she [TS]

01:34:55   said you know I need to build this fence [TS]

01:34:56   it's halfway built which it was [TS]

01:34:59   and the guy the junk hauling guy once [TS]

01:35:01   another fifteen hundred dollars to [TS]

01:35:03   finish the fence and I need to get the [TS]

01:35:04   fence finished because the neighborhood [TS]

01:35:06   kids are coming in the window and [TS]

01:35:07   they're stealing the woofers and [TS]

01:35:08   tweeters on my speaker right and I said [TS]

01:35:11   jamaica good fences make good neighbors [TS]

01:35:16   this is not a good fence and one other [TS]

01:35:20   thing that makes good neighbors is not [TS]

01:35:21   asking neighbors for loans particularly [TS]

01:35:24   to finish shit fences and she was like [TS]

01:35:27   right and I said yep i know that you [TS]

01:35:29   probably felt that you were in a [TS]

01:35:31   situation where you needed to do that in [TS]

01:35:32   order to finish this offense but I'm [TS]

01:35:34   opposed to the fence and also I you know [TS]

01:35:37   it would be a guy would be giving you [TS]

01:35:38   the money to finish a thing that I think [TS]

01:35:40   is idiotic right so but but other than [TS]

01:35:43   that we have always been very tight and [TS]

01:35:46   she's never really called me because she [TS]

01:35:49   she's never called me to say like [TS]

01:35:50   there's something suspicious she [TS]

01:35:52   generally called me to say have you seen [TS]

01:35:54   my cat [TS]

01:35:55   and her cat lives on my front porch no [TS]

01:35:58   kidding [TS]

01:35:59   yeah which is another thing her cat [TS]

01:36:01   lives on my front porch but her cat [TS]

01:36:03   won't let me pet him and so what that [TS]

01:36:06   means is every night at 2am my ride home [TS]

01:36:08   with my keys jangling and some box in my [TS]

01:36:11   arms I am newly startled by this cat [TS]

01:36:16   leaping out of the dark shadows on my [TS]

01:36:18   porch and we're running away from me and [TS]

01:36:21   45 years I've said kitty k-k-kitty it's [TS]

01:36:25   just me hi kitty and the cat gives me [TS]

01:36:27   nothing [TS]

01:36:28   yes but he's living on my porch that's [TS]

01:36:31   where he wants to be my porch is really [TS]

01:36:34   disappointing John yeah and when he's [TS]

01:36:36   the one when i had the possum that SAT [TS]

01:36:38   there licking his paws [TS]

01:36:39   oh come on this just can't have [TS]

01:36:41   culpability [TS]

01:36:42   yeah like you're not doing shit around [TS]

01:36:44   here it's sickening so she'll call me [TS]

01:36:45   sometimes she's like I haven't seen my [TS]

01:36:47   cat couple days and I I never say this [TS]

01:36:49   to her but I feel the same way like hey [TS]

01:36:51   lady if you're give your cat got taken [TS]

01:36:53   up a tree by a couple of Records i'm not [TS]

01:36:55   going to shed a tear for him [TS]

01:36:57   ya gotta figure shot though but I do [TS]

01:37:00   feel like when they move it's going to [TS]

01:37:02   happen in the middle of the night [TS]

01:37:03   yeah and I don't think anybody in there [TS]

01:37:06   is going to take I don't think they're [TS]

01:37:08   gonna be like I was that one time when I [TS]

01:37:10   was living in the apartment with the rat [TS]

01:37:11   where I took all the light bulbs [TS]

01:37:12   hahaha oh that's just that's just bratty [TS]

01:37:16   that's just being that's just churlish [TS]

01:37:18   am I don't think they're going to do [TS]

01:37:20   that because there's not that much [TS]

01:37:21   market for secondhand light [TS]

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