00:00:07 ◼ ► the incomparable number 198 jun 2014 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/7">TS</a>]
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00:00:26 ◼ ► because we should have had an episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/26">TS</a>]
00:00:28 ◼ ► with a panel composed this way before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/28">TS</a>]
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00:01:11 ◼ ► in a company i think that i can happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/71">TS</a>]
00:01:13 ◼ ► anytime soon I was chanting it chanting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/73">TS</a>]
00:01:15 ◼ ► it earlier today because i enjoy saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/75">TS</a>]
00:01:17 ◼ ► giant space cat it is Brianna Wu hello [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/77">TS</a>]
00:01:20 ◼ ► hey what's crackalackin we're good we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/80">TS</a>]
00:01:25 ◼ ► that's what that's what we're here to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/85">TS</a>]
00:01:27 ◼ ► find out is what's crackalackin I i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/87">TS</a>]
00:01:29 ◼ ► going to be here I'm going to answer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/89">TS</a>]
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00:01:46 ◼ ► i'm talking about so I i have i have got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/106">TS</a>]
00:01:48 ◼ ► you i'm also shaken because serenity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/108">TS</a>]
00:01:50 ◼ ► color was going to be here and then she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/110">TS</a>]
00:01:53 ◼ ► we will carry on bravely without her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/113">TS</a>]
00:01:55 ◼ ► somehow yes somehow could make this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/115">TS</a>]
00:01:57 ◼ ► podcast happen she could not make it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/117">TS</a>]
00:01:59 ◼ ► that's fine she had a friend in need and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/119">TS</a>]
00:02:01 ◼ ► that is more important than sleep at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/121">TS</a>]
00:02:06 ◼ ► some people may have noticed too that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/126">TS</a>]
00:02:10 ◼ ► panelists and I i wanna have a little in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/130">TS</a>]
00:02:14 ◼ ► the spirit of John syracuse I have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/134">TS</a>]
00:02:21 ◼ ► first off i wanted to point out that one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/141">TS</a>]
00:02:24 ◼ ► of the things that I always tried to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/144">TS</a>]
00:02:26 ◼ ► is the host is get the panel the panel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/146">TS</a>]
00:02:30 ◼ ► started was just people I knew and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/150">TS</a>]
00:02:32 ◼ ► realize at some point that I knew a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/152">TS</a>]
00:02:36 ◼ ► of dudes which made the panel more male [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/156">TS</a>]
00:02:39 ◼ ► than female although i was always happy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/159">TS</a>]
00:02:40 ◼ ► that I I knew two women who wanted to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/160">TS</a>]
00:02:43 ◼ ► on the podcast from the get-go and talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/163">TS</a>]
00:02:46 ◼ ► about nerdy stuff and that was Lisa and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/166">TS</a>]
00:02:47 ◼ ► serenity and i was very happy to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/167">TS</a>]
00:02:49 ◼ ► those and then over time I've tried to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/169">TS</a>]
00:02:51 ◼ ► be more cognizant of encouraging them to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/171">TS</a>]
00:02:55 ◼ ► be on episodes i actually went out and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/175">TS</a>]
00:03:00 ◼ ► I've never been I've never been happier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/180">TS</a>]
00:03:02 ◼ ► people actually luckily I've never tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/182">TS</a>]
00:03:04 ◼ ► actually penstocks a conventional you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/184">TS</a>]
00:03:06 ◼ ► know you listen to podcast you say is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/186">TS</a>]
00:03:07 ◼ ► that somebody who would fit in with our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/187">TS</a>]
00:03:09 ◼ ► particular level with madness or not and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/189">TS</a>]
00:03:11 ◼ ► and and I i hope you don't take offense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/191">TS</a>]
00:03:14 ◼ ► I I said yes when I heard what I heard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/194">TS</a>]
00:03:16 ◼ ► you was like I think she's like us but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/196">TS</a>]
00:03:18 ◼ ► find that the highest of compliments and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/198">TS</a>]
00:03:20 ◼ ► I think you are right I appreciate that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/200">TS</a>]
00:03:23 ◼ ► so my story is this which is and i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/203">TS</a>]
00:03:26 ◼ ► telling this to serenity last week and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/206">TS</a>]
00:03:27 ◼ ► she's not a podcast nobody's heard this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/207">TS</a>]
00:03:29 ◼ ► story before I want for anybody well I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/209">TS</a>]
00:03:31 ◼ ► will bore you but it we want to hurt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/211">TS</a>]
00:03:32 ◼ ► before so this is my story which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/212">TS</a>]
00:03:34 ◼ ► growing up as a as a a elementary school [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/214">TS</a>]
00:03:41 ◼ ► science fiction and fantasy and from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/221">TS</a>]
00:03:43 ◼ ► when I was watching Star Trek as a kid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/223">TS</a>]
00:03:45 ◼ ► and I always have this perception that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/225">TS</a>]
00:03:48 ◼ ► one a lot of times I was the only person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/228">TS</a>]
00:03:51 ◼ ► who was into this stuff and to that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/231">TS</a>]
00:03:54 ◼ ► was the only that that only boys were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/234">TS</a>]
00:03:56 ◼ ► into this stuff and the girls weren't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/236">TS</a>]
00:03:58 ◼ ► into it and in that that perception [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/238">TS</a>]
00:04:01 ◼ ► persisted in through high school and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/241">TS</a>]
00:04:03 ◼ ► in college after i had got rid of many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/243">TS</a>]
00:04:06 ◼ ► of my nerdy things in order to seem less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/246">TS</a>]
00:04:09 ◼ ► nerdy which totally failed by the way to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/249">TS</a>]
00:04:12 ◼ ► women in college i discovered of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/252">TS</a>]
00:04:14 ◼ ► in college at the heyday of Star Trek [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/254">TS</a>]
00:04:17 ◼ ► completely wrong and that women love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/257">TS</a>]
00:04:19 ◼ ► this stuff too and that I just seem to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/259">TS</a>]
00:04:22 ◼ ► either not know them or totally miss it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/262">TS</a>]
00:04:25 ◼ ► and i wanted to start there which is you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/265">TS</a>]
00:04:29 ◼ ► know what I was wrong was this was this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/269">TS</a>]
00:04:33 ◼ ► and it's just changed over the last 20 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/273">TS</a>]
00:04:36 ◼ ► years or was always there and for some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/276">TS</a>]
00:04:39 ◼ ► reason either i couldn't see it or that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/279">TS</a>]
00:04:41 ◼ ► girls who like this stuff don't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/281">TS</a>]
00:04:43 ◼ ► talk about it or admit to it because I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/283">TS</a>]
00:04:46 ◼ ► had a real you know hundred and eighty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/286">TS</a>]
00:04:47 ◼ ► degree turn in college when I realized [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/287">TS</a>]
00:04:50 ◼ ► that my assumption about who liked this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/290">TS</a>]
00:04:52 ◼ ► stuff was totally and utterly wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/292">TS</a>]
00:04:56 ◼ ► that's been in my opening statement what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/296">TS</a>]
00:05:00 ◼ ► I think I certainly don't want to speak [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/300">TS</a>]
00:05:03 ◼ ► for the world or even the States but no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/303">TS</a>]
00:05:07 ◼ ► personal stories more than anything else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/307">TS</a>]
00:05:11 ◼ ► personal story is that that it your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/311">TS</a>]
00:05:15 ◼ ► I grew up with as as we know so I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/315">TS</a>]
00:05:18 ◼ ► definitely into this stuff from a young [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/318">TS</a>]
00:05:20 ◼ ► age but I have to be honest I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/320">TS</a>]
00:05:22 ◼ ► know very many other girls who were I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/322">TS</a>]
00:05:25 ◼ ► can think of a few who I bonded with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/325">TS</a>]
00:05:27 ◼ ► became good friends with but for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/327">TS</a>]
00:05:29 ◼ ► most part that there weren't that many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/329">TS</a>]
00:05:31 ◼ ► of us it really was just us a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/331">TS</a>]
00:05:33 ◼ ► girls and a bunch of guys and I think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/333">TS</a>]
00:05:39 ◼ ► sucks being a girl and I'm ensure that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/339">TS</a>]
00:05:41 ◼ ► sucks being a guy in junior high school [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/341">TS</a>]
00:05:44 ◼ ► there's there's a lot of judgment and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/344">TS</a>]
00:05:46 ◼ ► think that when you're talking when it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/346">TS</a>]
00:05:48 ◼ ► came to geeky stuff at that time the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/348">TS</a>]
00:05:51 ◼ ► judgment was a lot more harsh on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/351">TS</a>]
00:05:52 ◼ ► girls that it was on the guys for for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/352">TS</a>]
00:05:55 ◼ ► being a little bit geeky and you know we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/355">TS</a>]
00:05:58 ◼ ► were getting judged for everything in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/358">TS</a>]
00:06:00 ◼ ► the first place so i think a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/360">TS</a>]
00:06:02 ◼ ► girls just who would have really enjoyed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/362">TS</a>]
00:06:04 ◼ ► the same stuff that i was reading it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/364">TS</a>]
00:06:07 ◼ ► didn't even try it because they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/367">TS</a>]
00:06:09 ◼ ► just too afraid so I think maybe as geek [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/369">TS</a>]
00:06:12 ◼ ► culture sort of started hitting the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/372">TS</a>]
00:06:14 ◼ ► mainstream little bit more by a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/374">TS</a>]
00:06:16 ◼ ► bit more those same girls who would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/376">TS</a>]
00:06:20 ◼ ► finally kind of got the guts to try it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/380">TS</a>]
00:06:22 ◼ ► out and were like oh my god this stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/382">TS</a>]
00:06:24 ◼ ► I wasted so many years so when my my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/384">TS</a>]
00:06:27 ◼ ► personal experience from from the little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/387">TS</a>]
00:06:29 ◼ ► town that I grew up in is that you were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/389">TS</a>]
00:06:32 ◼ ► right but but you but it's sad that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/392">TS</a>]
00:06:36 ◼ ► were right i guess this is how it works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/396">TS</a>]
00:06:38 ◼ ► I didn't meet a critical mass of Lady [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/398">TS</a>]
00:06:40 ◼ ► geeks until college because my and to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/400">TS</a>]
00:06:45 ◼ ► honest up until about high school it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/405">TS</a>]
00:06:47 ◼ ► wasn't normal because when I was in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/407">TS</a>]
00:06:52 ◼ ► science fiction / fantasy media products [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/412">TS</a>]
00:06:58 ◼ ► that i can seemed were Star Wars Star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/418">TS</a>]
00:07:01 ◼ ► Trek and Star Blazers and in every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/421">TS</a>]
00:07:03 ◼ ► single one of those who had one possibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/423">TS</a>]
00:07:06 ◼ ► two women and five to seven men and so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/426">TS</a>]
00:07:09 ◼ ► just assumed naively because I'm six or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/429">TS</a>]
00:07:12 ◼ ► seven years old I had assumed that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/432">TS</a>]
00:07:13 ◼ ► ratio reflected like real life interest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/433">TS</a>]
00:07:15 ◼ ► like obviously there would be more girls [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/435">TS</a>]
00:07:17 ◼ ► in science fiction and fantasy more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/437">TS</a>]
00:07:18 ◼ ► girls liked in real life because this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/438">TS</a>]
00:07:20 ◼ ► the logic you have an elementary school [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/440">TS</a>]
00:07:22 ◼ ► paper and like Eric I didn't have a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/442">TS</a>]
00:07:26 ◼ ► of girl friends growing up who were into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/446">TS</a>]
00:07:29 ◼ ► friends who are girls I was known as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/449">TS</a>]
00:07:30 ◼ ► though that's Lisa she reads the weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/450">TS</a>]
00:07:32 ◼ ► stuff and it wasn't until high school [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/452">TS</a>]
00:07:35 ◼ ► when I I i fell into a i guess one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/455">TS</a>]
00:07:40 ◼ ► the collections libraries epidemic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/460">TS</a>]
00:07:42 ◼ ► library must have been about a crypto [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/462">TS</a>]
00:07:44 ◼ ► sci-fi feminist or something because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/464">TS</a>]
00:07:46 ◼ ► book shelves are stocked with marion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/466">TS</a>]
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00:07:52 ◼ ► all of whom have have have done a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/472">TS</a>]
00:07:55 ◼ ► you know incisive work it from a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/475">TS</a>]
00:07:58 ◼ ► you know female center point of view and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/478">TS</a>]
00:08:00 ◼ ► that way MIT I shouldn't that this the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/480">TS</a>]
00:08:02 ◼ ► idea that there's a ratio and that my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/482">TS</a>]
00:08:04 ◼ ► interest is an outline interest that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/484">TS</a>]
00:08:06 ◼ ► weird assumption to have and that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/486">TS</a>]
00:08:07 ◼ ► wrong assumption to have them like i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/487">TS</a>]
00:08:09 ◼ ► said in college I realized there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/489">TS</a>]
00:08:10 ◼ ► such a thing as a critical critical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/490">TS</a>]
00:08:12 ◼ ► massive lady geeks but you know even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/492">TS</a>]
00:08:15 ◼ ► when I walk into comic book stores today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/495">TS</a>]
00:08:17 ◼ ► I'm never in the majority I've never had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/497">TS</a>]
00:08:19 ◼ ► the experience of walking to a comic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/499">TS</a>]
00:08:20 ◼ ► book store noticing more men than women [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/500">TS</a>]
00:08:22 ◼ ► and most the time when I going on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/502">TS</a>]
00:08:25 ◼ ► Tuesday afternoon or wednesday for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/505">TS</a>]
00:08:27 ◼ ► polis tits it's me and two other guys so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/507">TS</a>]
00:08:30 ◼ ► i think possibly in terms of what people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/510">TS</a>]
00:08:33 ◼ ► read what they watch on TV what they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/513">TS</a>]
00:08:35 ◼ ► what they see in the movies there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/515">TS</a>]
00:08:39 ◼ ► probably more evening of the ratios [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/519">TS</a>]
00:08:41 ◼ ► because I i know a lot of women now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/521">TS</a>]
00:08:43 ◼ ► we're really like the x-men or Star Trek [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/523">TS</a>]
00:08:45 ◼ ► or Star Wars but i still think there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/525">TS</a>]
00:08:48 ◼ ► pockets under the umbrella of geek [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/528">TS</a>]
00:08:51 ◼ ► culture whether there's a profound in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/531">TS</a>]
00:08:52 ◼ ► balance and i'm not sure if that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/532">TS</a>]
00:08:55 ◼ ► temperamental thing or if there's a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/535">TS</a>]
00:09:00 ◼ ► 22 the ratio not working on my favorite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/540">TS</a>]
00:09:04 ◼ ► no it's I i completely agree with what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/544">TS</a>]
00:09:08 ◼ ► uncomfortable speaking for you know half [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/548">TS</a>]
00:09:12 ◼ ► the human race but i can say like I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/552">TS</a>]
00:09:14 ◼ ► a very similar your background is all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/554">TS</a>]
00:09:17 ◼ ► you i work at my company is one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/557">TS</a>]
00:09:20 ◼ ► few all-female game dev teams in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/560">TS</a>]
00:09:22 ◼ ► entire industry every woman on my team [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/562">TS</a>]
00:09:25 ◼ ► has also had a story exactly like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/565">TS</a>]
00:09:27 ◼ ► my co-founder is actually a cheerleader [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/567">TS</a>]
00:09:29 ◼ ► in high school and felt like she had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/569">TS</a>]
00:09:33 ◼ ► kind of hide this stuff and other ppl [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/573">TS</a>]
00:09:35 ◼ ► cant kind of didn't relate to her um you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/575">TS</a>]
00:09:40 ◼ ► definitely become more accepted but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/580">TS</a>]
00:09:42 ◼ ► also think that there are all kinds of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/582">TS</a>]
00:09:45 ◼ ► things around geek culture that are real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/585">TS</a>]
00:09:49 ◼ ► no girls allowed signs that are really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/589">TS</a>]
00:09:53 ◼ ► they're really invisible two guys they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/593">TS</a>]
00:09:56 ◼ ► don't understand it and it sometimes in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/596">TS</a>]
00:09:59 ◼ ► you know big ways like you know like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/599">TS</a>]
00:10:03 ◼ ► comic con might have you know a girl [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/603">TS</a>]
00:10:06 ◼ ► with her chest hanging out you know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/606">TS</a>]
00:10:08 ◼ ► the advertisements it's in ways that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/608">TS</a>]
00:10:13 ◼ ► typically you know sexualize the lead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/613">TS</a>]
00:10:15 ◼ ► female characters Star Trek has been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/615">TS</a>]
00:10:18 ◼ ► tremendously guilty and not and yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/618">TS</a>]
00:10:20 ◼ ► it's you know so it's this it's all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/620">TS</a>]
00:10:24 ◼ ► these things about the culture that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/624">TS</a>]
00:10:26 ◼ ► know it's it's a thousand little things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/626">TS</a>]
00:10:29 ◼ ► but at the end of the day it it is men [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/629">TS</a>]
00:10:32 ◼ ► kind of standing there and saying like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/632">TS</a>]
00:10:33 ◼ ► this is our space this is our culture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/633">TS</a>]
00:10:35 ◼ ► and it does kind of push you away i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/635">TS</a>]
00:10:39 ◼ ► think the women that kind of push back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/639">TS</a>]
00:10:41 ◼ ► and stay in the field and stand up for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/641">TS</a>]
00:10:44 ◼ ► their interests i think that we kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/644">TS</a>]
00:10:46 ◼ ► developed thick-skinned necessarily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/646">TS</a>]
00:10:48 ◼ ► would you guys agree with them you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/648">TS</a>]
00:10:51 ◼ ► i don't know if you guys have had this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/651">TS</a>]
00:10:52 ◼ ► experience but it was a real shock to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/652">TS</a>]
00:10:55 ◼ ► the first time I busted out with comic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/655">TS</a>]
00:10:57 ◼ ► book cannon and had a couple guys I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/657">TS</a>]
00:11:00 ◼ ► talking to actually act really angry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/660">TS</a>]
00:11:02 ◼ ► that he you know as opposed to having a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/662">TS</a>]
00:11:05 ◼ ► collaborative conversation and I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/665">TS</a>]
00:11:08 ◼ ► I was a teenager and I remember being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/668">TS</a>]
00:11:10 ◼ ► really taken aback because all through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/670">TS</a>]
00:11:13 ◼ ► elementary school middle school even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/673">TS</a>]
00:11:14 ◼ ► high school like the sensible boys were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/674">TS</a>]
00:11:17 ◼ ► never this great mystery and you know or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/677">TS</a>]
00:11:19 ◼ ► or this entire species because I could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/679">TS</a>]
00:11:21 ◼ ► speak the language that a lot of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/681">TS</a>]
00:11:22 ◼ ► guys spoke you know we always pass code [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/682">TS</a>]
00:11:24 ◼ ► books back and forth we put Dungeons and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/684">TS</a>]
00:11:26 ◼ ► Dragons together we watched the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/686">TS</a>]
00:11:27 ◼ ► shows but you know you meet a couple of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/687">TS</a>]
00:11:31 ◼ ► guys and we get to talk about comic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/691">TS</a>]
00:11:33 ◼ ► books and they were really angry that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/693">TS</a>]
00:11:36 ◼ ► instead of them teaching me about comic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/696">TS</a>]
00:11:39 ◼ ► books or whatever I had my own opinions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/699">TS</a>]
00:11:41 ◼ ► and my own back and forth and it took me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/701">TS</a>]
00:11:43 ◼ ► a long time to realize that force for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/703">TS</a>]
00:11:47 ◼ ► for some aspects of geek culture there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/707">TS</a>]
00:11:50 ◼ ► there's a real alpha male hierarchy take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/710">TS</a>]
00:11:52 ◼ ► thing going on where you know I know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/712">TS</a>]
00:11:54 ◼ ► most about XYZ therefore I'm the alpha [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/714">TS</a>]
00:11:56 ◼ ► in this situation and I had been used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/716">TS</a>]
00:11:59 ◼ ► running into that like in classrooms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/719">TS</a>]
00:12:03 ◼ ► discussions i was a shock to me to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/723">TS</a>]
00:12:06 ◼ ► discover in indy cultures like I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/726">TS</a>]
00:12:09 ◼ ► realize there was that performative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/729">TS</a>]
00:12:10 ◼ ► aspect to it where it i think one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/730">TS</a>]
00:12:15 ◼ ► reasons that blew me away was one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/735">TS</a>]
00:12:17 ◼ ► things that's consistently drawn me to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/737">TS</a>]
00:12:18 ◼ ► sci-fi and fantasy over the years has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/738">TS</a>]
00:12:23 ◼ ► experiments different societies what if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/743">TS</a>]
00:12:25 ◼ ► what if these definitions minority [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/745">TS</a>]
00:12:27 ◼ ► majority of flipped or what if this the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/747">TS</a>]
00:12:29 ◼ ► social premise levels of salt equal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/749">TS</a>]
00:12:31 ◼ ► economically and I had assumed that this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/751">TS</a>]
00:12:34 ◼ ► this questioning of current societal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/754">TS</a>]
00:12:36 ◼ ► mores and this reexamination of of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/756">TS</a>]
00:12:38 ◼ ► social interactions was something that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/758">TS</a>]
00:12:40 ◼ ► everyone shares in fandom I hadn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/760">TS</a>]
00:12:41 ◼ ► realized that people brought in these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/761">TS</a>]
00:12:44 ◼ ► these external expectations about gender [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/764">TS</a>]
00:12:46 ◼ ► roles or what women could or should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/766">TS</a>]
00:12:51 ◼ ► somebody's interest it was a huge shock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/771">TS</a>]
00:12:53 ◼ ► to me so when I go in the want to go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/773">TS</a>]
00:12:55 ◼ ► target i'm going to just saying it might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/775">TS</a>]
00:12:57 ◼ ► go to target because my son usually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/777">TS</a>]
00:12:59 ◼ ► demands that we go to target because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/779">TS</a>]
00:13:02 ◼ ► go to the toy aisle and it is a horror [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/782">TS</a>]
00:13:05 ◼ ► show because it is there is a boy toy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/785">TS</a>]
00:13:08 ◼ ► aisle and there is a girl toy island and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/788">TS</a>]
00:13:11 ◼ ► listen to you guys talk to one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/791">TS</a>]
00:13:13 ◼ ► things that this reminds me of is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/793">TS</a>]
00:13:17 ◼ ► science fiction and fantasy and other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/797">TS</a>]
00:13:22 ◼ ► people filed it in the boy I'll which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/802">TS</a>]
00:13:25 ◼ ► towards so wrong on so many levels but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/805">TS</a>]
00:13:27 ◼ ► if you're a boy you just senile full of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/807">TS</a>]
00:13:30 ◼ ► toys and you don't think about it which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/810">TS</a>]
00:13:31 ◼ ► is I think what my experience was in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/811">TS</a>]
00:13:33 ◼ ► that would you know which again is so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/813">TS</a>]
00:13:35 ◼ ► I like i said i had this revelation much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/815">TS</a>]
00:13:38 ◼ ► later that that I had you know you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/818">TS</a>]
00:13:40 ◼ ► know where that barrier is there until [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/820">TS</a>]
00:13:43 ◼ ► you step outside yourself a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/823">TS</a>]
00:13:44 ◼ ► and you find that you've made this this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/824">TS</a>]
00:13:46 ◼ ► this totally crazy assumption about it i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/826">TS</a>]
00:13:48 ◼ ► mean i can only speak for myself but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/828">TS</a>]
00:13:50 ◼ ► even today when you know sometimes my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/830">TS</a>]
00:13:53 ◼ ► husband and I will go check out the toys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/833">TS</a>]
00:13:55 ◼ ► at toys r us and you i'm an engineer I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/835">TS</a>]
00:13:59 ◼ ► do game development and for me the toys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/839">TS</a>]
00:14:03 ◼ ► that are interesting or like if you go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/843">TS</a>]
00:14:07 ◼ ► it's barbie and it's brats and it's you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/847">TS</a>]
00:14:11 ◼ ► know it's it's a bunch of messages that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/851">TS</a>]
00:14:13 ◼ ► say be a doll be pretty you know dress [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/853">TS</a>]
00:14:16 ◼ ► up as this and don't even get me started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/856">TS</a>]
00:14:18 ◼ ► on the LEGO Friends line haha oh there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/858">TS</a>]
00:14:24 ◼ ► nineteen seventies of my daughter they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/864">TS</a>]
00:14:26 ◼ ► were actually much less gender determine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/866">TS</a>]
00:14:29 ◼ ► well it's because its marketing right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/869">TS</a>]
00:14:32 ◼ ► something effective about it because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/872">TS</a>]
00:14:34 ◼ ► parents respond to it i don't mind my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/874">TS</a>]
00:14:36 ◼ ► daughter we dressed in yellow and green [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/876">TS</a>]
00:14:40 ◼ ► princess episode of dora the explorer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/880">TS</a>]
00:14:42 ◼ ► which I will curse to this day and also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/882">TS</a>]
00:14:44 ◼ ► it was like going on things we know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/884">TS</a>]
00:14:46 ◼ ► because one it's fine but you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/886">TS</a>]
00:14:49 ◼ ► that that marketing aspect like i said i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/889">TS</a>]
00:14:50 ◼ ► just did the girl toys boys bins really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/890">TS</a>]
00:14:55 ◼ ► the boys if you go over to that aisle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/895">TS</a>]
00:14:58 ◼ ► it's all men having adventures you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/898">TS</a>]
00:15:01 ◼ ► be Batman you can go save the world you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/901">TS</a>]
00:15:03 ◼ ► can be GI Joe you can you can go do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/903">TS</a>]
00:15:09 ◼ ► unbelievably dangerous message for 4 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/909">TS</a>]
00:15:13 ◼ ► girls to get like girls the messages be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/913">TS</a>]
00:15:18 ◼ ► um you boys the messages go have an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/918">TS</a>]
00:15:20 ◼ ► adventure do things have hope this smash [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/920">TS</a>]
00:15:23 ◼ ► things and I don't know it's it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/923">TS</a>]
00:15:26 ◼ ► when I look at a Barbie doll i find it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/926">TS</a>]
00:15:29 ◼ ► very aesthetically pleasing and it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/929">TS</a>]
00:15:31 ◼ ► that I don't enjoy the girly aspect of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/931">TS</a>]
00:15:35 ◼ ► really bothers me that you have to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/935">TS</a>]
00:15:38 ◼ ► day when they bring out video game toys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/938">TS</a>]
00:15:41 ◼ ► um gears of war they never include the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/941">TS</a>]
00:15:45 ◼ ► yes superhero movies they will not make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/945">TS</a>]
00:15:48 ◼ ► female characters generally or it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/948">TS</a>]
00:15:50 ◼ ► a Smurfette you know one out of all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/950">TS</a>]
00:15:52 ◼ ► them and it's not just the gendered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/952">TS</a>]
00:15:55 ◼ ► aspect it's this message that women are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/955">TS</a>]
00:15:58 ◼ ► inculcated into before we can even think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/958">TS</a>]
00:16:02 ◼ ► the kind of keeps us out of key culture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/962">TS</a>]
00:16:04 ◼ ► yeah at the gonna steal us her story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/964">TS</a>]
00:16:07 ◼ ► from my very co-host Deb who is that a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/967">TS</a>]
00:16:13 ◼ ► children it was girls it was an internal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/973">TS</a>]
00:16:16 ◼ ► some sort of sporting event coding and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/976">TS</a>]
00:16:19 ◼ ► some of them got the happy meal with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/979">TS</a>]
00:16:21 ◼ ► book quote unquote boy and some of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/981">TS</a>]
00:16:23 ◼ ► got the Happy Meal the quote-unquote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/983">TS</a>]
00:16:24 ◼ ► girl toy they think they were all like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/984">TS</a>]
00:16:26 ◼ ► spider-man or something whatever it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/986">TS</a>]
00:16:29 ◼ ► oh I have stories about this because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/989">TS</a>]
00:16:30 ◼ ► happiness mission just ended and I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/990">TS</a>]
00:16:32 ◼ ► a daughter so i'll jump after you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/992">TS</a>]
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00:23:47 ◼ ► sort of sampling and I think there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1427">TS</a>]
00:23:50 ◼ ► quote-unquote girl stuff like you said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1430">TS</a>]
00:23:52 ◼ ► be with buffy the vampire slayer which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1432">TS</a>]
00:23:54 ◼ ► you know a lot of people like Buffy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1434">TS</a>]
00:23:56 ◼ ► remember so sweet girl stuff damn that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1436">TS</a>]
00:23:58 ◼ ► is how I heard it yeah i also want to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1438">TS</a>]
00:23:59 ◼ ► culturally I feel like we have I talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1439">TS</a>]
00:24:01 ◼ ► about boys and girls toys but in reality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1441">TS</a>]
00:24:03 ◼ ► is I think it's more generally there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1443">TS</a>]
00:24:05 ◼ ► toys and then there are girl toys and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1445">TS</a>]
00:24:08 ◼ ► then there are some toys that are really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1448">TS</a>]
00:24:09 ◼ ► coated for male but there are also a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1449">TS</a>]
00:24:11 ◼ ► that are just the assumption is these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1451">TS</a>]
00:24:16 ◼ ► assumption is there mail and then there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1456">TS</a>]
00:24:17 ◼ ► are the special toys the girl that will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1457">TS</a>]
00:24:19 ◼ ► be four girls that girls will like and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1459">TS</a>]
00:24:21 ◼ ► bear in mind that that I spent a long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1461">TS</a>]
00:24:24 ◼ ► period of time on the lunacy of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1464">TS</a>]
00:24:25 ◼ ► pregnancy and birth boards i'd have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1465">TS</a>]
00:24:27 ◼ ► say that that what I think it's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1467">TS</a>]
00:24:30 ◼ ► my observation on the internet which may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1470">TS</a>]
00:24:33 ◼ ► have little bearing on real life huh is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1473">TS</a>]
00:24:36 ◼ ► that there is a strong it is is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1476">TS</a>]
00:24:39 ◼ ► people are okay with girls pushing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1479">TS</a>]
00:24:41 ◼ ► outside of gender norms but mothers of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1481">TS</a>]
00:24:45 ◼ ► gender Norman them early and hard like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1485">TS</a>]
00:24:48 ◼ ► from babyhood where they'll pick up a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1488">TS</a>]
00:24:51 ◼ ► baby girl when she cries but they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1491">TS</a>]
00:24:52 ◼ ► want to spoil a 12 week old baby boy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1492">TS</a>]
00:24:54 ◼ ► which is just no I brought up the boys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1494">TS</a>]
00:24:56 ◼ ► toys and girl toys only to say I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1496">TS</a>]
00:24:59 ◼ ► like maybe some of this some of the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1499">TS</a>]
00:25:03 ◼ ► geekier media stuff was in the Boy bin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1503">TS</a>]
00:25:07 ◼ ► and boys wouldn't notice and has been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1507">TS</a>]
00:25:10 ◼ ► moved out in maybe into a more kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1510">TS</a>]
00:25:14 ◼ ► like non gender appropriate thing like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1514">TS</a>]
00:25:17 ◼ ► don't feel like like I think there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1517">TS</a>]
00:25:19 ◼ ► very few i don't know maybe I'm wrong I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1519">TS</a>]
00:25:21 ◼ ► i think there are very few pieces of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1521">TS</a>]
00:25:23 ◼ ► media that i would say of this kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1523">TS</a>]
00:25:25 ◼ ► media that i would say oh well that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1525">TS</a>]
00:25:27 ◼ ► just for women although I see that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1527">TS</a>]
00:25:29 ◼ ► another genre is too so maybe it's clear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1529">TS</a>]
00:25:31 ◼ ► here too i just feel like that's that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1531">TS</a>]
00:25:32 ◼ ► this is what people reacting to is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1532">TS</a>]
00:25:34 ◼ ► it's not just for boys only anymore and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1534">TS</a>]
00:25:37 ◼ ► that freaks them out and yes I do i do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1537">TS</a>]
00:25:39 ◼ ► think they think at that level of being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1539">TS</a>]
00:25:41 ◼ ► four boys anyway Brianna go ahead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1541">TS</a>]
00:25:43 ◼ ► no I was I was just gonna make two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1543">TS</a>]
00:25:45 ◼ ► points like first I agree with your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1545">TS</a>]
00:25:47 ◼ ► posture that it's it's definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1547">TS</a>]
00:25:49 ◼ ► getting better it's absolutely getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1549">TS</a>]
00:25:51 ◼ ► better in geek culture but I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1551">TS</a>]
00:25:54 ◼ ► something that we really have to think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1554">TS</a>]
00:25:59 ◼ ► generally portrayed in geek culture you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1559">TS</a>]
00:26:02 ◼ ► know like um yeah we talked about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1562">TS</a>]
00:26:03 ◼ ► superhero movies um you're the woman the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1563">TS</a>]
00:26:06 ◼ ► women that we see are almost always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1566">TS</a>]
00:26:08 ◼ ► gorgeous and they're in their twenties [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1568">TS</a>]
00:26:11 ◼ ► and you very almost never see women [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1571">TS</a>]
00:26:14 ◼ ► outside of that very narrow range of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1574">TS</a>]
00:26:16 ◼ ► roles like even in Doctor Who a series i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1576">TS</a>]
00:26:19 ◼ ► think is generally pretty good at being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1579">TS</a>]
00:26:22 ◼ ► you giving women kind of more of a fair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1582">TS</a>]
00:26:27 ◼ ► portrayed in this very narrow range and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1587">TS</a>]
00:26:30 ◼ ► I think that has extremely serious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1590">TS</a>]
00:26:33 ◼ ► um the other thing that was going to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1593">TS</a>]
00:26:34 ◼ ► is I i think that it is better for geek [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1594">TS</a>]
00:26:38 ◼ ► culture as a whole but the industry i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1598">TS</a>]
00:26:43 ◼ ► it's not better and it is a it is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1603">TS</a>]
00:26:47 ◼ ► fight every single day and I find myself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1607">TS</a>]
00:26:49 ◼ ► in the middle of this street fight and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1609">TS</a>]
00:26:52 ◼ ► adjacent the beginning of this you were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1612">TS</a>]
00:26:55 ◼ ► talking about can boys feeling like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1615">TS</a>]
00:26:59 ◼ ► um I think if it's bad and geek culture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1619">TS</a>]
00:27:01 ◼ ► it is beyond pronounced in video game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1621">TS</a>]
00:27:04 ◼ ► culture and you're just getting like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1624">TS</a>]
00:27:08 ◼ ► this is a culture where people celebrate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1628">TS</a>]
00:27:10 ◼ ► when excellent games like Tomb Raider [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1630">TS</a>]
00:27:13 ◼ ► with female protagonist fail financially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1633">TS</a>]
00:27:16 ◼ ► I mean yeah this is it it's extremely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1636">TS</a>]
00:27:20 ◼ ► problematic so i guess i would just be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1640">TS</a>]
00:27:23 ◼ ► little hesitant to you portray the issue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1643">TS</a>]
00:27:26 ◼ ► like you know it's all this is not one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1646">TS</a>]
00:27:31 ◼ ► yeah that are in various places i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1651">TS</a>]
00:27:34 ◼ ► going to mention my ipod twelve-year-old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1654">TS</a>]
00:27:36 ◼ ► daughter she loves video games also but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1656">TS</a>]
00:27:38 ◼ ► the stuff that she loves honestly is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1658">TS</a>]
00:27:40 ◼ ► stuff that he does feel like it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1660">TS</a>]
00:27:43 ◼ ► it's it's minecraft it's a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1663">TS</a>]
00:27:45 ◼ ► nintendo stuff it's uh you know connect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1665">TS</a>]
00:27:49 ◼ ► a various connect like dancing games in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1669">TS</a>]
00:27:52 ◼ ► the Star Wars games and things like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1672">TS</a>]
00:27:54 ◼ ► it's not when she's not at the age yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1674">TS</a>]
00:27:56 ◼ ► she's getting close where a lot of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1676">TS</a>]
00:27:59 ◼ ► stuff that's marketed to teenage boys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1679">TS</a>]
00:28:02 ◼ ► where there's lots of you know shooting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1682">TS</a>]
00:28:05 ◼ ► and stuff and that's like the mainstream [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1685">TS</a>]
00:28:07 ◼ ► and she's just not there yet and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1687">TS</a>]
00:28:09 ◼ ► my concern is that she's going to enter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1689">TS</a>]
00:28:11 ◼ ► a period where she's ready for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1691">TS</a>]
00:28:13 ◼ ► broader world of games and those games [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1693">TS</a>]
00:28:18 ◼ ► they're not going to speak to her and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1698">TS</a>]
00:28:20 ◼ ► they're not going to want her presence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1700">TS</a>]
00:28:21 ◼ ► and that that concerns me because i love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1701">TS</a>]
00:28:25 ◼ ► the fact that she loves video games and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1705">TS</a>]
00:28:27 ◼ ► I want you know I i know that sounds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1707">TS</a>]
00:28:28 ◼ ► crazy for a parent to say but welcome to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1708">TS</a>]
00:28:30 ◼ ► the 21st century I want her to engage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1710">TS</a>]
00:28:32 ◼ ► with video games I don't want her to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1712">TS</a>]
00:28:34 ◼ ► turn away from it because I think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1714">TS</a>]
00:28:35 ◼ ► you know I i think it they're great and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1715">TS</a>]
00:28:38 ◼ ► and she shouldn't get driven out because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1718">TS</a>]
00:28:40 ◼ ► they're for boys that's really offensive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1720">TS</a>]
00:28:42 ◼ ► to me but I'm worried that we're on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1722">TS</a>]
00:28:43 ◼ ► precipice of that because the next level [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1723">TS</a>]
00:28:46 ◼ ► up is a lot tougher than the stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1726">TS</a>]
00:28:49 ◼ ► that's at the nintendo in Minecraft [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1729">TS</a>]
00:28:51 ◼ ► level III think it's getting better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1731">TS</a>]
00:28:53 ◼ ► ica getting better like just on just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1733">TS</a>]
00:28:56 ◼ ► new tomb raider was announced I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1736">TS</a>]
00:28:58 ◼ ► tomb raider such a northstar for we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1738">TS</a>]
00:29:01 ◼ ► at the industry needs to go on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1741">TS</a>]
00:29:03 ◼ ► issue lara croft started her video game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1743">TS</a>]
00:29:07 ◼ ► career as like this large breasted sex [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1747">TS</a>]
00:29:11 ◼ ► symbol that was for the male gaze and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1751">TS</a>]
00:29:16 ◼ ► appealing to although to be fair that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1756">TS</a>]
00:29:18 ◼ ► was my wife's favorite console game the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1758">TS</a>]
00:29:20 ◼ ► tomb raider for playstation absolutely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1760">TS</a>]
00:29:23 ◼ ► and you know I think my point but you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1763">TS</a>]
00:29:27 ◼ ► character she and she rolled her eyes a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1767">TS</a>]
00:29:28 ◼ ► lot of the stuff that was in it right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1768">TS</a>]
00:29:29 ◼ ► but she still liked it but last year you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1769">TS</a>]
00:29:32 ◼ ► had the franchise taken over by female [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1772">TS</a>]
00:29:35 ◼ ► rider Rhianna Pratchett who is excellent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1775">TS</a>]
00:29:38 ◼ ► and you had the lead character turned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1778">TS</a>]
00:29:41 ◼ ► into i think from this sex symbol into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1781">TS</a>]
00:29:44 ◼ ► one of the most actualized interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1784">TS</a>]
00:29:48 ◼ ► three-dimensional women in video game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1788">TS</a>]
00:29:51 ◼ ► history that has intricate relationships [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1791">TS</a>]
00:29:54 ◼ ► with her female friends who isn't just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1794">TS</a>]
00:29:58 ◼ ► sex symbol for the men and you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1798">TS</a>]
00:30:01 ◼ ► another sequel coming out with that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1801">TS</a>]
00:30:03 ◼ ► I guess my message to your daughter is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1803">TS</a>]
00:30:07 ◼ ► there are different narratives out there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1807">TS</a>]
00:30:12 ◼ ► serendipitously like their women in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1812">TS</a>]
00:30:14 ◼ ► industry like rhianna pratchett who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1814">TS</a>]
00:30:16 ◼ ► really thought for certain lines in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1816">TS</a>]
00:30:18 ◼ ► game you know and their women like me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1818">TS</a>]
00:30:21 ◼ ► that are trying to do different things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1821">TS</a>]
00:30:22 ◼ ► in the genre so you know there's it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1822">TS</a>]
00:30:26 ◼ ► not just gonna happen magically yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1826">TS</a>]
00:30:29 ◼ ► it's it's a it's funny the I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1829">TS</a>]
00:30:33 ◼ ► it is it's it being with her on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1833">TS</a>]
00:30:35 ◼ ► verge of being a teenager this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1835">TS</a>]
00:30:37 ◼ ► this is a one of those issues is that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1837">TS</a>]
00:30:40 ◼ ► that there is always a new wave of of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1840">TS</a>]
00:30:43 ◼ ► cultural stuff that comes pouring in and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1843">TS</a>]
00:30:45 ◼ ► there's that question again about what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1845">TS</a>]
00:30:47 ◼ ► the what you said about video game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1847">TS</a>]
00:30:49 ◼ ► culture being different from some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1849">TS</a>]
00:30:50 ◼ ► these other you know sci-fi and TV and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1850">TS</a>]
00:30:52 ◼ ► movie fandom and comics and maybe even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1852">TS</a>]
00:30:54 ◼ ► and with with each be aged wave you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1854">TS</a>]
00:30:59 ◼ ► to process that too so that's that's my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1859">TS</a>]
00:31:01 ◼ ► concern although it's good to hear that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1861">TS</a>]
00:31:02 ◼ ► that you know because I want her to stay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1862">TS</a>]
00:31:04 ◼ ► engaged she does you know she does love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1864">TS</a>]
00:31:07 ◼ ► I I you know I hope that she's at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1867">TS</a>]
00:31:10 ◼ ► vanguard of a generation of girls who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1870">TS</a>]
00:31:12 ◼ ► are going to play games and I'm not get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1872">TS</a>]
00:31:14 ◼ ► driven out by you know things that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1874">TS</a>]
00:31:17 ◼ ► all about what boys like I hope she'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1877">TS</a>]
00:31:19 ◼ ► enjoy games and she'll look to what it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1879">TS</a>]
00:31:22 ◼ ► like in 2014 where there are women in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1882">TS</a>]
00:31:25 ◼ ► the industry that are making games and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1885">TS</a>]
00:31:27 ◼ ► hope that you know she'll see that there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1887">TS</a>]
00:31:29 ◼ ► are possibilities models out there for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1889">TS</a>]
00:31:31 ◼ ► her if she wants to she can go do this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1891">TS</a>]
00:31:34 ◼ ► in the industry herself and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1894">TS</a>]
00:31:35 ◼ ► ultimately we're talking about comics or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1895">TS</a>]
00:31:40 ◼ ► ultimately the answer to a lot of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1900">TS</a>]
00:31:42 ◼ ► things is to simply get more women [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1902">TS</a>]
00:31:44 ◼ ► involved in the process and then these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1904">TS</a>]
00:31:46 ◼ ► issues solve themselves it's doing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1906">TS</a>]
00:31:48 ◼ ► in comics I've noticed because if you go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1908">TS</a>]
00:31:51 ◼ ► if you go to the internet especially the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1911">TS</a>]
00:31:53 ◼ ► women who write and produce their own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1913">TS</a>]
00:31:55 ◼ ► comments are doing really interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1915">TS</a>]
00:31:56 ◼ ► work and in many cases it's a lot more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1916">TS</a>]
00:31:59 ◼ ► compelling artistically narrative Lee [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1919">TS</a>]
00:32:01 ◼ ► than than what you might actually see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1921">TS</a>]
00:32:03 ◼ ► being mean I'm printed and producing a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1923">TS</a>]
00:32:06 ◼ ► comic book store there's one girls [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1926">TS</a>]
00:32:09 ◼ ► tumblr i follow ginger Hayes was her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1929">TS</a>]
00:32:12 ◼ ► name-o Noelle Stevenson Ramona I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1932">TS</a>]
00:32:15 ◼ ► going to mention our love demoniac so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1935">TS</a>]
00:32:19 ◼ ► yes on what you know she's one example [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1939">TS</a>]
00:32:22 ◼ ► there's another one called strong female [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1942">TS</a>]
00:32:25 ◼ ► protagonist and oh you know who i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1945">TS</a>]
00:32:28 ◼ ► thinking of it some she's part she does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1948">TS</a>]
00:32:33 ◼ ► the comic gosh i'm blanking on her name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1953">TS</a>]
00:32:35 ◼ ► but she does that the great comics and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1955">TS</a>]
00:32:39 ◼ ► feminists ok you know country accents [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1959">TS</a>]
00:32:43 ◼ ► podcast and also going to Jason but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1963">TS</a>]
00:32:46 ◼ ► there's there's plenty of knishes being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1966">TS</a>]
00:32:49 ◼ ► filled being created and filled online [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1969">TS</a>]
00:32:51 ◼ ► and every time I read about the comics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1971">TS</a>]
00:32:53 ◼ ► industries in trouble i think well you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1973">TS</a>]
00:32:55 ◼ ► know the old school comics industry is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1975">TS</a>]
00:32:57 ◼ ► in trouble but you've got a whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1977">TS</a>]
00:33:00 ◼ ► basically crafting the industry that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1980">TS</a>]
00:33:01 ◼ ► they would like to see and i find that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1981">TS</a>]
00:33:03 ◼ ► incredibly exciting i find webcomics to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1983">TS</a>]
00:33:05 ◼ ► be one of the most exciting and vibrant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1985">TS</a>]
00:33:07 ◼ ► places to be and I think it's also good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1987">TS</a>]
00:33:09 ◼ ► space for feminist then can I ask you a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1989">TS</a>]
00:33:11 ◼ ► question about that though because I see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1991">TS</a>]
00:33:13 ◼ ► you know I really love comics too and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1993">TS</a>]
00:33:18 ◼ ► I don't read webcomics oh look at DC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/1998">TS</a>]
00:33:21 ◼ ► and you know whether it's DC or marvel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2001">TS</a>]
00:33:23 ◼ ► or idw yeah it's the same thing every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2003">TS</a>]
00:33:27 ◼ ► single you know couple of weeks when i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2007">TS</a>]
00:33:30 ◼ ► put up the ipad and look at it it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2010">TS</a>]
00:33:31 ◼ ► who's making something that's aimed at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2011">TS</a>]
00:33:34 ◼ ► me and I do see very few female artists [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2014">TS</a>]
00:33:40 ◼ ► i do see you're relatively few female [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2020">TS</a>]
00:33:43 ◼ ► writers and I see almost no books that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2023">TS</a>]
00:33:45 ◼ ► are about women like I know there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2025">TS</a>]
00:33:47 ◼ ► new x-men book that's coming out that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2027">TS</a>]
00:33:51 ◼ ► I'm really psyched about that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2031">TS</a>]
00:33:53 ◼ ► I'm i I've read a few issues of that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2033">TS</a>]
00:33:55 ◼ ► i thought i would be really excited [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2035">TS</a>]
00:33:58 ◼ ► yeah well and bearing in mind i'm also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2038">TS</a>]
00:34:00 ◼ ► batting away that the ghost of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2040">TS</a>]
00:34:02 ◼ ► childhood where like age 12 and 13 I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2042">TS</a>]
00:34:04 ◼ ► drove my own x roster that was solely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2044">TS</a>]
00:34:06 ◼ ► women and i have my own imaginary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2046">TS</a>]
00:34:08 ◼ ► character i would have injected in there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2048">TS</a>]
00:34:10 ◼ ► and so you know you personally I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2050">TS</a>]
00:34:12 ◼ ► just kinda disappointed with how it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2052">TS</a>]
00:34:13 ◼ ► started and i also wonder again I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2053">TS</a>]
00:34:19 ◼ ► there's a lot of baggage because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2059">TS</a>]
00:34:21 ◼ ► starts off with jubilation lee becoming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2061">TS</a>]
00:34:23 ◼ ► an adoptive mother and taking care of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2063">TS</a>]
00:34:24 ◼ ► baby interesting strange circumstances [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2064">TS</a>]
00:34:26 ◼ ► and this motherly drive pushes her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2066">TS</a>]
00:34:28 ◼ ► narrative along and I found myself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2068">TS</a>]
00:34:31 ◼ ► thinking why why does it always have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2071">TS</a>]
00:34:33 ◼ ► be Parenthood that provides you it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2073">TS</a>]
00:34:38 ◼ ► that's a conversation that we had a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2078">TS</a>]
00:34:40 ◼ ► talking about Doctor Who if you look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2080">TS</a>]
00:34:42 ◼ ► the history of Doctor Who there are a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2082">TS</a>]
00:34:43 ◼ ► decent number of female villains in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2083">TS</a>]
00:34:47 ◼ ► series which is kind of a cool thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2087">TS</a>]
00:34:48 ◼ ► however it's a little bit alarming the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2088">TS</a>]
00:34:50 ◼ ► number of them that are motivated by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2090">TS</a>]
00:34:52 ◼ ► either maternal instinct or or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2092">TS</a>]
00:34:56 ◼ ► that's specifically feminine yeah it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2096">TS</a>]
00:34:58 ◼ ► little fat to get back to bring them to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2098">TS</a>]
00:35:01 ◼ ► get back to put the comics on about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2101">TS</a>]
00:35:04 ◼ ► another one with my love for Gail Simone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2104">TS</a>]
00:35:05 ◼ ► she's one of the best riders out there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2105">TS</a>]
00:35:07 ◼ ► and i think that the rehab job she did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2107">TS</a>]
00:35:09 ◼ ► on birds of prey I think what DC Comics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2109">TS</a>]
00:35:11 ◼ ► did to all the characters that she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2111">TS</a>]
00:35:13 ◼ ► worked so hard to rehab I think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2113">TS</a>]
00:35:14 ◼ ► one of the biggest cultural crimes of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2114">TS</a>]
00:35:15 ◼ ► the last 10 years yeah and that's saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2115">TS</a>]
00:35:18 ◼ ► a lot given what they what they've done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2118">TS</a>]
00:35:19 ◼ ► anybody to yeah yeah there's also did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2119">TS</a>]
00:35:23 ◼ ► you read our red hood and the outlaws [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2123">TS</a>]
00:35:26 ◼ ► there's also willow Western willow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2126">TS</a>]
00:35:31 ◼ ► willow Wilson I'm i was i was going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2131">TS</a>]
00:35:33 ◼ ► say something that some marvel as Miss [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2133">TS</a>]
00:35:35 ◼ ► has ms marvel which is written by willow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2135">TS</a>]
00:35:38 ◼ ► Wilson which is a great comic with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2138">TS</a>]
00:35:40 ◼ ► female protagonist sure I i hate to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2140">TS</a>]
00:35:43 ◼ ► this though it's like every time I bring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2143">TS</a>]
00:35:44 ◼ ► up examples it's like I i think i can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2144">TS</a>]
00:35:46 ◼ ► call the examples because they're the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2146">TS</a>]
00:35:49 ◼ ► he writes like there's the Captain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2149">TS</a>]
00:35:50 ◼ ► Marvel series that Kelly sue deconnick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2150">TS</a>]
00:35:54 ◼ ► ah saga by bryan cave on Fiona staples [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2154">TS</a>]
00:35:58 ◼ ► does the are for that and they are very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2158">TS</a>]
00:36:00 ◼ ► much a collaborative set of storytellers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2160">TS</a>]
00:36:02 ◼ ► there but you know again I break a bond [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2162">TS</a>]
00:36:05 ◼ ► works for women period because you look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2165">TS</a>]
00:36:07 ◼ ► at y the last man that was you know he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2167">TS</a>]
00:36:09 ◼ ► and Pia did all that great work together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2169">TS</a>]
00:36:11 ◼ ► and I think you can't underestimate the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2171">TS</a>]
00:36:14 ◼ ► impact of women behind the scenes I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2174">TS</a>]
00:36:16 ◼ ► if it weren't for Karen Berger you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2176">TS</a>]
00:36:17 ◼ ► wouldn't have vertigo and vertical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2177">TS</a>]
00:36:19 ◼ ► vertical was kind of the entryway for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2179">TS</a>]
00:36:21 ◼ ► lot of women into comics you here and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2181">TS</a>]
00:36:23 ◼ ► was a great way to slide sideways into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2183">TS</a>]
00:36:25 ◼ ► the the types and flight John rubee cuz [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2185">TS</a>]
00:36:27 ◼ ► you know what once you find once you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2187">TS</a>]
00:36:29 ◼ ► find some crossover so you can follow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2189">TS</a>]
00:36:30 ◼ ► artists um you know if you go but one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2190">TS</a>]
00:36:34 ◼ ► the things that you know obviously we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2194">TS</a>]
00:36:36 ◼ ► like to do on this podcast is talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2196">TS</a>]
00:36:38 ◼ ► about the work so I you brought up an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2198">TS</a>]
00:36:39 ◼ ► interesting point there Lisa which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2199">TS</a>]
00:36:40 ◼ ► are there things that that that all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2200">TS</a>]
00:36:43 ◼ ► you you know individually found as as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2203">TS</a>]
00:36:48 ◼ ► something that pops out is as being like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2208">TS</a>]
00:36:49 ◼ ► oh this is this is actually for me the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2209">TS</a>]
00:36:52 ◼ ► speaks to me this is not exclusionary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2212">TS</a>]
00:36:54 ◼ ► what are those one of those things I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2214">TS</a>]
00:36:56 ◼ ► curious i'm interested in my my mind was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2216">TS</a>]
00:36:59 ◼ ► blown when Final Fantasy 6 came out I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2219">TS</a>]
00:37:03 ◼ ► mean this is a game that you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2223">TS</a>]
00:37:06 ◼ ► starts on Terra who is this be male [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2226">TS</a>]
00:37:09 ◼ ► protagonist and she's hurting inside and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2229">TS</a>]
00:37:12 ◼ ► she's been she's been used by like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2232">TS</a>]
00:37:14 ◼ ► evil this evil empire and have final [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2234">TS</a>]
00:37:18 ◼ ► fantasy i know a lot of people like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2238">TS</a>]
00:37:20 ◼ ► to bag on it but it is a series with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2240">TS</a>]
00:37:27 ◼ ► protagonists in all of videogame history [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2247">TS</a>]
00:37:29 ◼ ► and look at celess you look at look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2249">TS</a>]
00:37:33 ◼ ► arm you know right up from final fantasy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2253">TS</a>]
00:37:35 ◼ ► for look at you look at teeth and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2255">TS</a>]
00:37:40 ◼ ► in fantasy 7 or you know there's in and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2260">TS</a>]
00:37:43 ◼ ► seeing this wonderful mix of beautiful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2263">TS</a>]
00:37:50 ◼ ► characters and seeing women is you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2270">TS</a>]
00:37:54 ◼ ► agents and not a girlfriend that people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2274">TS</a>]
00:37:56 ◼ ► that were actually doing things it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2276">TS</a>]
00:37:59 ◼ ► it was single-handedly like if i work in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2279">TS</a>]
00:38:02 ◼ ► game development today it is because i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2282">TS</a>]
00:38:04 ◼ ► was obsessed with those games as a child [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2284">TS</a>]
00:38:06 ◼ ► and they spoke to me so so fiercely you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2286">TS</a>]
00:38:10 ◼ ► know Jason hope that happens with your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2290">TS</a>]
00:38:12 ◼ ► I mean yeah we need more women in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2292">TS</a>]
00:38:14 ◼ ► ranks of game dad I'd love for something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2294">TS</a>]
00:38:16 ◼ ► to speak to her just that powerful she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2296">TS</a>]
00:38:18 ◼ ► one of two girls in her tech class and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2298">TS</a>]
00:38:21 ◼ ► in middle school and she's but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2301">TS</a>]
00:38:24 ◼ ► what she loves it and she signed up for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2304">TS</a>]
00:38:26 ◼ ► for for next year too and it it actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2306">TS</a>]
00:38:28 ◼ ► really makes me mad that her more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2308">TS</a>]
00:38:30 ◼ ► friends aren't in that class because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2310">TS</a>]
00:38:31 ◼ ► does mean mean that she's you know one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2311">TS</a>]
00:38:34 ◼ ► of two or three instead of one of half [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2314">TS</a>]
00:38:37 ◼ ► the class when you mentioned a videogame [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2317">TS</a>]
00:38:40 ◼ ► protagonist I i love the fact that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2320">TS</a>]
00:38:42 ◼ ► portals protagonist is a woman and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2322">TS</a>]
00:38:44 ◼ ► doesn't matter and that they just said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2324">TS</a>]
00:38:46 ◼ ► look Chelle is the protagonist and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2326">TS</a>]
00:38:49 ◼ ► play this game as a woman and I mean I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2329">TS</a>]
00:38:51 ◼ ► that felt like a big middle finger to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2331">TS</a>]
00:38:53 ◼ ► man who don't get all right doubt bio [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2333">TS</a>]
00:38:59 ◼ ► it's like it's a great game speaking of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2339">TS</a>]
00:39:01 ◼ ► that actually with what kind of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2341">TS</a>]
00:39:03 ◼ ► biggest moment I think in that was video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2343">TS</a>]
00:39:06 ◼ ► game it was playing metroid metroid was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2346">TS</a>]
00:39:08 ◼ ► one of the first Nintendo games on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2348">TS</a>]
00:39:10 ◼ ► old nes that I ever finished and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2350">TS</a>]
00:39:12 ◼ ► completed I think before my brother even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2352">TS</a>]
00:39:15 ◼ ► and when you find a hope that you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2355">TS</a>]
00:39:18 ◼ ► been playing as a woman this whole time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2358">TS</a>]
00:39:20 ◼ ► when you didn't know if I was just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2360">TS</a>]
00:39:21 ◼ ► I mean yeah like the angels were singing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2361">TS</a>]
00:39:26 ◼ ► hallelujah it was it was amazing but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2366">TS</a>]
00:39:28 ◼ ► honestly that's the only the only thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2368">TS</a>]
00:39:31 ◼ ► that I can point to that it was such a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2371">TS</a>]
00:39:33 ◼ ► light bulb moment I think I was really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2373">TS</a>]
00:39:35 ◼ ► really lucky in that I just sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2375">TS</a>]
00:39:38 ◼ ► consumed so much stuff and without even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2378">TS</a>]
00:39:42 ◼ ► recognizing it consciously I gravitated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2382">TS</a>]
00:39:45 ◼ ► towards the things that were a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2385">TS</a>]
00:39:49 ◼ ► female-centric even in the storylines [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2389">TS</a>]
00:39:52 ◼ ► even if I didn't necessarily know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2392">TS</a>]
00:39:54 ◼ ► in the time when i moved to Canada I got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2394">TS</a>]
00:39:56 ◼ ► rid of almost all of my books boohoo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2396">TS</a>]
00:39:59 ◼ ► oh but the few the few that i saved our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2399">TS</a>]
00:40:02 ◼ ► on a shelf next to me and I actually I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2402">TS</a>]
00:40:04 ◼ ► didn't exactly do this on purpose but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2404">TS</a>]
00:40:06 ◼ ► just like they're really important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2406">TS</a>]
00:40:07 ◼ ► series that are sitting next to me are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2407">TS</a>]
00:40:09 ◼ ► Robin hobb and Julian may both of which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2409">TS</a>]
00:40:13 ◼ ► i didn't even know where women when i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2413">TS</a>]
00:40:16 ◼ ► oh my gosh all with Erica have you and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2416">TS</a>]
00:40:18 ◼ ► talked about urgent need to do Julian a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2418">TS</a>]
00:40:20 ◼ ► podcast yet don't think so but I am in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2420">TS</a>]
00:40:23 ◼ ► argued because I i have lots of feelings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2423">TS</a>]
00:40:25 ◼ ► about the remote yard dynasty and I need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2425">TS</a>]
00:40:28 ◼ ► ok oh my god dad really felt first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2428">TS</a>]
00:40:31 ◼ ► person I've met in real life who's read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2431">TS</a>]
00:40:33 ◼ ► these books i'm not kidding you I'm I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2433">TS</a>]
00:40:36 ◼ ► sitting right next to them you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2436">TS</a>]
00:40:38 ◼ ► because I've got the Pleistocene i put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2438">TS</a>]
00:40:39 ◼ ► the police in epic downstairs and boxes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2439">TS</a>]
00:40:41 ◼ ► and I have to get another copy of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2441">TS</a>]
00:40:46 ◼ ► oh wow anyway alright you put on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2446">TS</a>]
00:40:52 ◼ ► actually is one of those areas where I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2452">TS</a>]
00:40:54 ◼ ► women's voices a lot longer and not only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2454">TS</a>]
00:40:57 ◼ ► did you have Giants in the field like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2457">TS</a>]
00:40:59 ◼ ► Ursula Gwyn writing science fiction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2459">TS</a>]
00:41:01 ◼ ► novel on the Shelf to but but you also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2461">TS</a>]
00:41:04 ◼ ► had of course all the women who were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2464">TS</a>]
00:41:06 ◼ ► writing underpin names and nobody knew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2466">TS</a>]
00:41:09 ◼ ► they were Andre Norton we'll never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2469">TS</a>]
00:41:11 ◼ ► underestimate the impact of Medellin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2471">TS</a>]
00:41:13 ◼ ► no yeah oh yeah so she had both of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2473">TS</a>]
00:41:16 ◼ ► I I did every now and then I blow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2476">TS</a>]
00:41:18 ◼ ► somebody away when I point out some Star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2478">TS</a>]
00:41:20 ◼ ► Trek fan that they'll know now i guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2480">TS</a>]
00:41:22 ◼ ► there was a time when I would point out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2482">TS</a>]
00:41:24 ◼ ► the DC fontana who wrote the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2484">TS</a>]
00:41:26 ◼ ► world-building important and was also up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2486">TS</a>]
00:41:29 ◼ ► I think she rewrote Gene Roddenberry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2489">TS</a>]
00:41:31 ◼ ► because he was not a very good writer up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2491">TS</a>]
00:41:33 ◼ ► that would be Fontana's a woman that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2493">TS</a>]
00:41:35 ◼ ► Dorothy Fontana like what it's like yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2495">TS</a>]
00:41:38 ◼ ► but but the fact that many women had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2498">TS</a>]
00:41:40 ◼ ► take gender neutral or mail pen names [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2500">TS</a>]
00:41:43 ◼ ► still my point is I felt like written [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2503">TS</a>]
00:41:46 ◼ ► science fiction had maybe more more of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2506">TS</a>]
00:41:48 ◼ ► those voices then then TV or movies or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2508">TS</a>]
00:41:54 ◼ ► historically what's funny those the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2514">TS</a>]
00:41:56 ◼ ► x-men were actually the first thing I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2516">TS</a>]
00:41:58 ◼ ► thought was from all of us as yeah yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2518">TS</a>]
00:42:00 ◼ ► and in bear in mind this is even the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2520">TS</a>]
00:42:04 ◼ ► for the costumes are horrible and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2524">TS</a>]
00:42:11 ◼ ► significantly invested in Jean Grey's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2531">TS</a>]
00:42:13 ◼ ► the character I've talked to women were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2533">TS</a>]
00:42:14 ◼ ► about 10 years older and they've talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2534">TS</a>]
00:42:16 ◼ ► about the incredible sense of betrayal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2536">TS</a>]
00:42:18 ◼ ► that they felt / / how genes been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2538">TS</a>]
00:42:21 ◼ ► treating the comics off but Kitty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2541">TS</a>]
00:42:25 ◼ ► Pryde's my homegirl is at work and when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2545">TS</a>]
00:42:27 ◼ ► i started reading on when i started the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2547">TS</a>]
00:42:29 ◼ ► x-men I was 11 and she was just a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2549">TS</a>]
00:42:31 ◼ ► years older and so she was kind of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2551">TS</a>]
00:42:33 ◼ ► avatar so to speak and the New Mutants [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2553">TS</a>]
00:42:37 ◼ ► comment came out not long after that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2557">TS</a>]
00:42:39 ◼ ► that had a couple fantastic strong of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2559">TS</a>]
00:42:42 ◼ ► female protagonists where they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2562">TS</a>]
00:42:45 ◼ ► protagonists having adventures first and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2565">TS</a>]
00:42:48 ◼ ► girls second and Domino well it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2568">TS</a>]
00:42:51 ◼ ► little like no no Danny prof star Sean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2571">TS</a>]
00:42:55 ◼ ► Alex you're talking about early as magma [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2575">TS</a>]
00:42:58 ◼ ► God brought in and make but yeah I'm a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2578">TS</a>]
00:43:00 ◼ ► Reiki lihue they think that terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2580">TS</a>]
00:43:03 ◼ ► ileana the french community on and Kitty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2583">TS</a>]
00:43:05 ◼ ► Pryde has always been really interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2585">TS</a>]
00:43:07 ◼ ► and kind of nuanced yeah i was going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2587">TS</a>]
00:43:09 ◼ ► say that as as a teenage boy or preteen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2589">TS</a>]
00:43:12 ◼ ► boy reading the x-men in the in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2592">TS</a>]
00:43:14 ◼ ► eighties I I'll i love kitty pryde and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2594">TS</a>]
00:43:17 ◼ ► not just like every boy loves kitty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2597">TS</a>]
00:43:19 ◼ ► pryde but I love kitty pryde is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2599">TS</a>]
00:43:20 ◼ ► character she was the wish fulfillment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2600">TS</a>]
00:43:23 ◼ ► care she was the Wesley Crusher of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2603">TS</a>]
00:43:25 ◼ ► x-men and to have it be able to have it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2605">TS</a>]
00:43:27 ◼ ► be a girl was great and then the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2607">TS</a>]
00:43:30 ◼ ► that her relationship you know she has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2610">TS</a>]
00:43:32 ◼ ► relationship to Colossus write to Pierre [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2612">TS</a>]
00:43:34 ◼ ► bitchy that that's during and get away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2614">TS</a>]
00:43:36 ◼ ► from my kitty pryde anyway but also win [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2616">TS</a>]
00:43:39 ◼ ► also but with with ileana right and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2619">TS</a>]
00:43:41 ◼ ► fact that that I mean the bechdel test [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2621">TS</a>]
00:43:44 ◼ ► we can talk about you know it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2624">TS</a>]
00:43:46 ◼ ► it's a tool to point out some issues in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2626">TS</a>]
00:43:49 ◼ ► for some serious issues but I mean x-men [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2629">TS</a>]
00:43:52 ◼ ► kitty and ileana's relationship was very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2632">TS</a>]
00:43:54 ◼ ► important and in fact in many ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2634">TS</a>]
00:43:57 ◼ ► plot-wise it bridged it was the push and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2637">TS</a>]
00:43:59 ◼ ► pull between the new mutants and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2639">TS</a>]
00:44:01 ◼ ► x-men for a while right and was so great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2641">TS</a>]
00:44:03 ◼ ► yes the X baby she used to call of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2643">TS</a>]
00:44:07 ◼ ► other comic book series i want to give a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2647">TS</a>]
00:44:08 ◼ ► shout-out to because this is another one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2648">TS</a>]
00:44:10 ◼ ► where I felt it was it was genuinely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2650">TS</a>]
00:44:14 ◼ ► generally radical believe it is elfquest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2654">TS</a>]
00:44:16 ◼ ► by one day tricky i read through that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2656">TS</a>]
00:44:20 ◼ ► when i was 14 15 and I still circle back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2660">TS</a>]
00:44:25 ◼ ► oh my god it's basically like what if to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2665">TS</a>]
00:44:27 ◼ ► blister at nineteen seventies hippie and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2667">TS</a>]
00:44:30 ◼ ► long-running saga about spacefaring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2670">TS</a>]
00:44:33 ◼ ► elves who crash-landed on the planet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2673">TS</a>]
00:44:35 ◼ ► interbreed with wolves and then run to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2675">TS</a>]
00:44:37 ◼ ► the crazy witch and it works and it has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2677">TS</a>]
00:44:41 ◼ ► it is literally every cent 70 science [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2681">TS</a>]
00:44:43 ◼ ► fiction convention filk song only have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2683">TS</a>]
00:44:45 ◼ ► awesome awesome government got great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2685">TS</a>]
00:44:48 ◼ ► here but there's a lot of work done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2688">TS</a>]
00:44:53 ◼ ► relationships there's a lot of work done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2693">TS</a>]
00:44:57 ◼ ► relationships between men and complex [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2697">TS</a>]
00:44:59 ◼ ► and loving relationships between women [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2699">TS</a>]
00:45:03 ◼ ► leadership is and restricted to one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2703">TS</a>]
00:45:05 ◼ ► gender arm and it's it's it's a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2705">TS</a>]
00:45:09 ◼ ► series because you can find i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2709">TS</a>]
00:45:13 ◼ ► almost everybody who reads it can find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2713">TS</a>]
00:45:14 ◼ ► somebody in there that they can they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2714">TS</a>]
00:45:16 ◼ ► hang their hat on it it it it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2716">TS</a>]
00:45:18 ◼ ► impose and this is the hero he is a dude [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2718">TS</a>]
00:45:21 ◼ ► whatever like in this case the sensible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2721">TS</a>]
00:45:24 ◼ ► hero the screaming qatar has a best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2724">TS</a>]
00:45:26 ◼ ► friend he loves more than life and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2726">TS</a>]
00:45:28 ◼ ► has occasional sexual relationships [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2728">TS</a>]
00:45:30 ◼ ► within else has a wife who is much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2730">TS</a>]
00:45:31 ◼ ► smarter much more talented than he is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2731">TS</a>]
00:45:33 ◼ ► and he knows that he's fine with it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2733">TS</a>]
00:45:35 ◼ ► it's about this unconventional family [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2735">TS</a>]
00:45:38 ◼ ► built together so there's just there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2738">TS</a>]
00:45:40 ◼ ► lot going on it and it's and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2740">TS</a>]
00:45:43 ◼ ► they're still spitting it out but it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2743">TS</a>]
00:45:45 ◼ ► it was I think it helps it wasn't tights [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2745">TS</a>]
00:45:47 ◼ ► and flights again space for it helps to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2747">TS</a>]
00:45:49 ◼ ► crossbreed with Wolves back crazy while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2749">TS</a>]
00:45:51 ◼ ► we're on comics I oh I also when I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2751">TS</a>]
00:45:54 ◼ ► kind of remembered something else when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2754">TS</a>]
00:45:56 ◼ ► i came to comics pretty late and I I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2756">TS</a>]
00:45:59 ◼ ► a girl that I worked with a number of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2759">TS</a>]
00:46:01 ◼ ► jobs ago who was sort of my comics guru [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2761">TS</a>]
00:46:03 ◼ ► and i had already read Sandman but she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2763">TS</a>]
00:46:05 ◼ ► got me onto a bunch of other mostly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2765">TS</a>]
00:46:07 ◼ ► vertigo title since that was what I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2767">TS</a>]
00:46:09 ◼ ► into and she's like oh you should try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2769">TS</a>]
00:46:10 ◼ ► some of the superhero stuff from Marvel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2770">TS</a>]
00:46:12 ◼ ► and I was like that's just really really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2772">TS</a>]
00:46:14 ◼ ► really doesn't really do it for me she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2774">TS</a>]
00:46:16 ◼ ► should you should try to hear and she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2776">TS</a>]
00:46:18 ◼ ► gave me a lius series about jessica [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2778">TS</a>]
00:46:20 ◼ ► jones which in my mind I I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2780">TS</a>]
00:46:23 ◼ ► realize that that there was that sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2783">TS</a>]
00:46:26 ◼ ► the marvel universe and it was just this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2786">TS</a>]
00:46:28 ◼ ► very fully developed character that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2788">TS</a>]
00:46:30 ◼ ► got to know more and more as service she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2790">TS</a>]
00:46:33 ◼ ► was getting to know herself soon to be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2793">TS</a>]
00:46:35 ◼ ► netflix television series i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2795">TS</a>]
00:46:37 ◼ ► clearly i think i think that's I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2797">TS</a>]
00:46:40 ◼ ► jessica jones is one of the characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2800">TS</a>]
00:46:42 ◼ ► who they're rolling into those three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2802">TS</a>]
00:46:43 ◼ ► different series they're doing for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2803">TS</a>]
00:46:45 ◼ ► netflix the Marvel of Marvel's doing for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2805">TS</a>]
00:46:47 ◼ ► them you know Runaways at by ended it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2807">TS</a>]
00:46:51 ◼ ► Runaways is a is an ensemble series with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2811">TS</a>]
00:46:55 ◼ ► a lot of strong women characters ya ya [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2815">TS</a>]
00:46:57 ◼ ► ya know a if we can go back to x-men for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2817">TS</a>]
00:47:01 ◼ ► Davis ism love exit but i don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2821">TS</a>]
00:47:04 ◼ ► that this is a really good microcosm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2824">TS</a>]
00:47:07 ◼ ► into a kind of a fallacy that I think a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2827">TS</a>]
00:47:12 ◼ ► lot of guys have when we're talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2832">TS</a>]
00:47:14 ◼ ► about issues including women and geek [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2834">TS</a>]
00:47:17 ◼ ► um you know I'm speaking mostly for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2837">TS</a>]
00:47:21 ◼ ► I'm i love the x-men and I have fierce [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2841">TS</a>]
00:47:25 ◼ ► feelings about psylocke Jean Grey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2845">TS</a>]
00:47:30 ◼ ► um you know in my favorite era when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2850">TS</a>]
00:47:33 ◼ ► really started reading it was when Jim [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2853">TS</a>]
00:47:36 ◼ ► Lee could use a little bit before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2856">TS</a>]
00:47:38 ◼ ► generally took over launched like just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2858">TS</a>]
00:47:40 ◼ ► the x-men comic not the uncanny x-men [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2860">TS</a>]
00:47:42 ◼ ► comic and I feel like so often when we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2862">TS</a>]
00:47:45 ◼ ► talk about these issues um just we focus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2865">TS</a>]
00:47:49 ◼ ► on exactly one thing like what does the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2869">TS</a>]
00:47:52 ◼ ► woman looked like it she's sexy she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2872">TS</a>]
00:47:54 ◼ ► too sexy how big is her or her boobs you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2874">TS</a>]
00:47:57 ◼ ► know how does our ass look as her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2877">TS</a>]
00:47:59 ◼ ► costume too tight you know and we we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2879">TS</a>]
00:48:01 ◼ ► spend so much time talking about this um [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2881">TS</a>]
00:48:04 ◼ ► I don't know about you guys but when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2884">TS</a>]
00:48:06 ◼ ► think about why i love the x-men the in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2886">TS</a>]
00:48:10 ◼ ► specifically female characters of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2890">TS</a>]
00:48:12 ◼ ► accident doesn't have anything to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2892">TS</a>]
00:48:14 ◼ ► with you know what their costumes are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2894">TS</a>]
00:48:17 ◼ ► it's about who they are as people as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2897">TS</a>]
00:48:21 ◼ ► individuals you like when psylocke is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2901">TS</a>]
00:48:23 ◼ ► really struggling with you her own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2903">TS</a>]
00:48:26 ◼ ► identity after going through the siege [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2906">TS</a>]
00:48:30 ◼ ► something i could identify with you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2910">TS</a>]
00:48:33 ◼ ► Jubilees teenage angst I could identify [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2913">TS</a>]
00:48:35 ◼ ► with that myself and I feel like all too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2915">TS</a>]
00:48:39 ◼ ► and we end up talking about women that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2919">TS</a>]
00:48:43 ◼ ► are geek fixtures in this purely sexual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2923">TS</a>]
00:48:46 ◼ ► way and I think it's like the most male [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2926">TS</a>]
00:48:48 ◼ ► conversation you can never have because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2928">TS</a>]
00:48:50 ◼ ► it's just about evaluating women by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2930">TS</a>]
00:48:52 ◼ ► their looks and I just would really love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2932">TS</a>]
00:48:57 ◼ ► for geek culture to move beyond that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2937">TS</a>]
00:48:59 ◼ ► because personally I love looking at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2939">TS</a>]
00:49:01 ◼ ► gorgeous women drawn well like when Jim [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2941">TS</a>]
00:49:04 ◼ ► Lee drew psylocke and Jean Grey and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2944">TS</a>]
00:49:08 ◼ ► I think that's just unbelievably great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2948">TS</a>]
00:49:09 ◼ ► art and I don't know how you guys feel I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2949">TS</a>]
00:49:13 ◼ ► yeah it's also as a you know as these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2953">TS</a>]
00:49:17 ◼ ► III it's very easy to listen to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2957">TS</a>]
00:49:19 ◼ ► conversation and say well what they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2959">TS</a>]
00:49:20 ◼ ► really saying is they need more things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2960">TS</a>]
00:49:22 ◼ ► that are all being a by women for women [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2962">TS</a>]
00:49:24 ◼ ► starting women all that it's like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2964">TS</a>]
00:49:26 ◼ ► know what actually I think what we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2966">TS</a>]
00:49:28 ◼ ► saying is that it's a richer and more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2968">TS</a>]
00:49:31 ◼ ► fulfilling piece of work if it actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2971">TS</a>]
00:49:33 ◼ ► is based in some level of reality like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2973">TS</a>]
00:49:36 ◼ ► the fact that the world we live in is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2976">TS</a>]
00:49:37 ◼ ► richer for having men and women both in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2977">TS</a>]
00:49:40 ◼ ► it as actors and people who have agency [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2980">TS</a>]
00:49:44 ◼ ► and that's what when I look at something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2984">TS</a>]
00:49:46 ◼ ► like like Runaways or III something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2986">TS</a>]
00:49:49 ◼ ► buffy the vampire slayer' and those are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2989">TS</a>]
00:49:51 ◼ ► both examples of works written by men [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2991">TS</a>]
00:49:56 ◼ ► characters who have interactions with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2996">TS</a>]
00:49:58 ◼ ► each other the women aren't there to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/2998">TS</a>]
00:50:00 ◼ ► sex symbols they are they are integrated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3000">TS</a>]
00:50:04 ◼ ► into the entire story and they all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3004">TS</a>]
00:50:07 ◼ ► interact with each other as people and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3007">TS</a>]
00:50:09 ◼ ► you know that's that's it's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3009">TS</a>]
00:50:12 ◼ ► really sad that I have to make that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3012">TS</a>]
00:50:14 ◼ ► statement but you know there are lots of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3014">TS</a>]
00:50:16 ◼ ► examples where the women are not there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3016">TS</a>]
00:50:18 ◼ ► to do and you mentioned read that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3018">TS</a>]
00:50:20 ◼ ► infamous red hood and the outlaws comic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3020">TS</a>]
00:50:23 ◼ ► but there are lots of other examples [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3023">TS</a>]
00:50:25 ◼ ► by the way I love that are the guy that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3025">TS</a>]
00:50:29 ◼ ► I Scotland down study a lot with jay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3029">TS</a>]
00:50:31 ◼ ► scott campbell if you look at the art of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3031">TS</a>]
00:50:33 ◼ ► my game revolution 60 I've stayed the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3033">TS</a>]
00:50:36 ◼ ► hell out of j scott campbell he's had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3036">TS</a>]
00:50:38 ◼ ► huge influence in my work and it's all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3038">TS</a>]
00:50:41 ◼ ► about intent there like many threats red [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3041">TS</a>]
00:50:46 ◼ ► interesting comment because you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3046">TS</a>]
00:50:49 ◼ ► what's her name is a Starfire and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3049">TS</a>]
00:50:53 ◼ ► our fire yeah yeah Starfire she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3053">TS</a>]
00:50:55 ◼ ► becomes an interesting complex character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3055">TS</a>]
00:50:58 ◼ ► and later books but they just portray [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3058">TS</a>]
00:51:00 ◼ ► her sis sex symbol from the beginning so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3060">TS</a>]
00:51:03 ◼ ► again it's not in speaking for me it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3063">TS</a>]
00:51:06 ◼ ► not the sex it's not the being portrayed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3066">TS</a>]
00:51:09 ◼ ► as someone this beautiful it's the male [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3069">TS</a>]
00:51:12 ◼ ► gaze is the intent like is this woman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3072">TS</a>]
00:51:15 ◼ ► just here to look at my my recollection [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3075">TS</a>]
00:51:17 ◼ ► I did read a lot of the old issues of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3077">TS</a>]
00:51:19 ◼ ► Teen Titans but there was that your teen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3079">TS</a>]
00:51:20 ◼ ► titans was really trying to be the CDC's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3080">TS</a>]
00:51:22 ◼ ► x-men and my understanding is that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3082">TS</a>]
00:51:26 ◼ ► character was I mean you could have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3086">TS</a>]
00:51:31 ◼ ► actively trying to have it both ways but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3091">TS</a>]
00:51:32 ◼ ► she's sexy she's also supposed to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3092">TS</a>]
00:51:34 ◼ ► because of her attitude toward humans [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3094">TS</a>]
00:51:37 ◼ ► and people and sex and things like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3097">TS</a>]
00:51:39 ◼ ► she's actually supposed to be kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3099">TS</a>]
00:51:41 ◼ ► transgressive and I don't know whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3101">TS</a>]
00:51:43 ◼ ► you'd say that she was satirical or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3103">TS</a>]
00:51:45 ◼ ► whether she's supposed to be challenging [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3105">TS</a>]
00:51:46 ◼ ► a lot of except at what we accept and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3106">TS</a>]
00:51:49 ◼ ► you know again she was supposed to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3109">TS</a>]
00:51:51 ◼ ► more than just the one thing and I'm i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3111">TS</a>]
00:51:54 ◼ ► sure it was done better after the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3114">TS</a>]
00:51:56 ◼ ► eighties but you know again I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3116">TS</a>]
00:51:58 ◼ ► they were trying to have it both ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3118">TS</a>]
00:51:59 ◼ ► but there was at least some aspect of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3119">TS</a>]
00:52:02 ◼ ► not you know they were supposed to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3122">TS</a>]
00:52:05 ◼ ► yeah it comes across as very Heinlein [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3125">TS</a>]
00:52:07 ◼ ► and 98 that's a big theme with timeline [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3127">TS</a>]
00:52:10 ◼ ► but it's always can I just wouldn't buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3130">TS</a>]
00:52:14 ◼ ► yeah they did the Heinlein highline it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3134">TS</a>]
00:52:16 ◼ ► was that you know you're exactly right i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3136">TS</a>]
00:52:18 ◼ ► read when I was in high school I read I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3138">TS</a>]
00:52:20 ◼ ► will fear no evil which is on one level [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3140">TS</a>]
00:52:22 ◼ ► this kind of fascinating book about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3142">TS</a>]
00:52:26 ◼ ► gender norms and all that because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3146">TS</a>]
00:52:28 ◼ ► about like an old rich guy who needs a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3148">TS</a>]
00:52:31 ◼ ► new body and he gets his brain put in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3151">TS</a>]
00:52:33 ◼ ► female body but on another level it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3153">TS</a>]
00:52:37 ◼ ► mm no I got 30 seconds into it i love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3157">TS</a>]
00:52:40 ◼ ► Heinlein moon is a harsh mistress is my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3160">TS</a>]
00:52:42 ◼ ► favorite novel and I couldn't even make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3162">TS</a>]
00:52:44 ◼ ► it through 30 pages of that it was so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3164">TS</a>]
00:52:46 ◼ ► so you're right because it's the second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3166">TS</a>]
00:52:48 ◼ ► level completely undercuts the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3168">TS</a>]
00:52:50 ◼ ► level and it's well it's like he wrote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3170">TS</a>]
00:52:53 ◼ ► didn't I just read an article about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3173">TS</a>]
00:52:55 ◼ ► later in life that was very was like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3175">TS</a>]
00:52:56 ◼ ► planet where the the white people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3176">TS</a>]
00:52:58 ◼ ► enslaved by the black people and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3178">TS</a>]
00:53:00 ◼ ► like supposed to be this see we need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3180">TS</a>]
00:53:02 ◼ ► all get along and rate as raised as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3182">TS</a>]
00:53:05 ◼ ► except on another level it is the worst [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3185">TS</a>]
00:53:07 ◼ ► racial stereotyping you will ever see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3187">TS</a>]
00:53:12 ◼ ► completely blows away any potential [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3192">TS</a>]
00:53:14 ◼ ► cleverness of level 1 so by the way I it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3194">TS</a>]
00:53:17 ◼ ► in our chat room i posted a link to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3197">TS</a>]
00:53:19 ◼ ► x-men women poster that i actually did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3199">TS</a>]
00:53:21 ◼ ► possess when I was a teenager and all i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3201">TS</a>]
00:53:25 ◼ ► this is one of the problems with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3205">TS</a>]
00:53:27 ◼ ► x-men and stuff its marketing all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3207">TS</a>]
00:53:28 ◼ ► lease at the same reaction I had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3208">TS</a>]
00:53:30 ◼ ► watching it now which is the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3210">TS</a>]
00:53:31 ◼ ► offensive thing is that rogue has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3211">TS</a>]
00:53:33 ◼ ► person stars and bars confederate flag [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3213">TS</a>]
00:53:37 ◼ ► what is she thinking it's not even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3217">TS</a>]
00:53:39 ◼ ► well-drawn no it's no it's really on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3219">TS</a>]
00:53:42 ◼ ► what about that didn't that didn't I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3222">TS</a>]
00:53:46 ◼ ► I kept some of my posters from that era [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3226">TS</a>]
00:53:47 ◼ ► that was recycled speaking of movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3227">TS</a>]
00:53:50 ◼ ► posters that is one of the the places [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3230">TS</a>]
00:53:52 ◼ ► that I think we still see this obnoxious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3232">TS</a>]
00:53:54 ◼ ► you know that the hoses on mom's ya [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3234">TS</a>]
00:53:57 ◼ ► comic covers however i would like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3237">TS</a>]
00:53:59 ◼ ► point out that the hobbit the desolation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3239">TS</a>]
00:54:02 ◼ ► of smaug had one poster that I mean ok [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3242">TS</a>]
00:54:05 ◼ ► so the hobbit had no women it to start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3245">TS</a>]
00:54:07 ◼ ► with so they had they had a female [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3247">TS</a>]
00:54:10 ◼ ► yeah I'm good for them for that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3250">TS</a>]
00:54:12 ◼ ► there is a great great poster that has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3252">TS</a>]
00:54:15 ◼ ► torial and legolas on the posters just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3255">TS</a>]
00:54:17 ◼ ► the two of them and tutorials in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3257">TS</a>]
00:54:19 ◼ ► badass pose i can't remember what she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3259">TS</a>]
00:54:21 ◼ ► doing with her weapon but like she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3261">TS</a>]
00:54:22 ◼ ► looking stuff and then you've got less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3262">TS</a>]
00:54:24 ◼ ► kind of in the background doing the butt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3264">TS</a>]
00:54:26 ◼ ► it's totally backwards and i love it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3266">TS</a>]
00:54:27 ◼ ► it's so great i think that's what i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3267">TS</a>]
00:54:29 ◼ ► liked about the avengers movie posters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3269">TS</a>]
00:54:31 ◼ ► will let came out and everybody probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3271">TS</a>]
00:54:34 ◼ ► photoshopping their own are online and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3274">TS</a>]
00:54:36 ◼ ► pushed back and so just say yes it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3276">TS</a>]
00:54:38 ◼ ► totally natural to have every male [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3278">TS</a>]
00:54:40 ◼ ► adventure doing something which implies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3280">TS</a>]
00:54:41 ◼ ► there man of action while the Black [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3281">TS</a>]
00:54:44 ◼ ► Widow shows us that she doesn't eat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3284">TS</a>]
00:54:45 ◼ ► carbs and it was a sign that it is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3285">TS</a>]
00:54:48 ◼ ► it is getting better because we see this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3288">TS</a>]
00:54:50 ◼ ► pushback people are starting to notice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3290">TS</a>]
00:54:51 ◼ ► it i mean you know they're there is push [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3291">TS</a>]
00:54:55 ◼ ► back but how many more boobies have you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3295">TS</a>]
00:54:57 ◼ ► gone to this year where women have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3297">TS</a>]
00:54:59 ◼ ► Smurf added spider-man to fail you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3299">TS</a>]
00:55:03 ◼ ► Captain America to fail new x-men movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3303">TS</a>]
00:55:06 ◼ ► ok doesn't totally fail but fails you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3306">TS</a>]
00:55:09 ◼ ► know and I was kind of disappointed the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3309">TS</a>]
00:55:12 ◼ ► new x-men movie precisely because I I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3312">TS</a>]
00:55:16 ◼ ► thought you know if you're going to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3316">TS</a>]
00:55:17 ◼ ► to all this trouble top-up I should say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3317">TS</a>]
00:55:19 ◼ ► love the movie yeah and I thought you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3319">TS</a>]
00:55:22 ◼ ► know I fog mystique was fantastic and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3322">TS</a>]
00:55:24 ◼ ► like that they basically make her the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3324">TS</a>]
00:55:27 ◼ ► force for chaos witness it as opposed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3327">TS</a>]
00:55:29 ◼ ► Charles and and Eric's 10 your breakup [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3329">TS</a>]
00:55:35 ◼ ► oh come on it but what everybody got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3335">TS</a>]
00:55:40 ◼ ► but you know if not exactly but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3340">TS</a>]
00:55:42 ◼ ► if you're going to go to all this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3342">TS</a>]
00:55:43 ◼ ► trouble to come on there could be there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3343">TS</a>]
00:55:45 ◼ ► could be more Lady use the seventies who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3345">TS</a>]
00:55:47 ◼ ► could have done something you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3347">TS</a>]
00:55:49 ◼ ► felt like I am interested in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3349">TS</a>]
00:55:51 ◼ ► comment about the captain america movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3351">TS</a>]
00:55:52 ◼ ► because I thought that the captain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3352">TS</a>]
00:55:53 ◼ ► america movie The Black Widow came off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3353">TS</a>]
00:55:54 ◼ ► pretty well in that in that she didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3354">TS</a>]
00:55:56 ◼ ► she was not i mean there there is you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3356">TS</a>]
00:55:59 ◼ ► can actually feel it in the theater I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3359">TS</a>]
00:56:00 ◼ ► felt it within myself there is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3360">TS</a>]
00:56:03 ◼ ► she's a woman in the superhero movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3363">TS</a>]
00:56:05 ◼ ► they got a pair up with somebody there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3365">TS</a>]
00:56:07 ◼ ► going to be some sort of thing and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3367">TS</a>]
00:56:08 ◼ ► that and you know they don't play that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3368">TS</a>]
00:56:10 ◼ ► game she is AKA comrade of steve rogers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3370">TS</a>]
00:56:13 ◼ ► and I have no objection to how they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3373">TS</a>]
00:56:16 ◼ ► portrayed her moving my objection is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3376">TS</a>]
00:56:20 ◼ ► Smurfette her is in video games in comic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3380">TS</a>]
00:56:23 ◼ ► books there's one woman i I'm so damn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3383">TS</a>]
00:56:27 ◼ ► sick of this rumor has it that they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3387">TS</a>]
00:56:30 ◼ ► gonna make a captain marvel movie that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3390">TS</a>]
00:56:32 ◼ ► there's one in development potentially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3392">TS</a>]
00:56:34 ◼ ► with the with the actual modern female [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3394">TS</a>]
00:56:38 ◼ ► captain marvel which would be awesome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3398">TS</a>]
00:56:41 ◼ ► that would be that would be nice to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3401">TS</a>]
00:56:43 ◼ ► to be honest if they were to reboot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3403">TS</a>]
00:56:45 ◼ ► agents of shield and basically make it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3405">TS</a>]
00:56:46 ◼ ► Melinda may and her awesome badass [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3406">TS</a>]
00:56:48 ◼ ► backup and i would totally watch that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3408">TS</a>]
00:56:51 ◼ ► because that was my favorite character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3411">TS</a>]
00:56:52 ◼ ► on that show this year I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3412">TS</a>]
00:56:54 ◼ ► we're going to do that to I honestly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3414">TS</a>]
00:56:55 ◼ ► thought the resolution was going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3415">TS</a>]
00:56:56 ◼ ► that it wasn't actually Coulson which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3416">TS</a>]
00:56:59 ◼ ► didn't turn out to be the case and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3419">TS</a>]
00:57:00 ◼ ► they say look like regular need to do a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3420">TS</a>]
00:57:02 ◼ ► year and then we'll just hand it off and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3422">TS</a>]
00:57:06 ◼ ► I don't know maybe the maybe you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3426">TS</a>]
00:57:07 ◼ ► maybe Briana the bar is so low that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3427">TS</a>]
00:57:10 ◼ ► was just relieved that that that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3430">TS</a>]
00:57:13 ◼ ► Black Widow was portrayed competently as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3433">TS</a>]
00:57:16 ◼ ► a professional even though she was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3436">TS</a>]
00:57:20 ◼ ► immediately go weak at the knees over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3440">TS</a>]
00:57:22 ◼ ► the winter soldier who has a long-lost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3442">TS</a>]
00:57:24 ◼ ► Red Room boyfriend or whatever I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3444">TS</a>]
00:57:25 ◼ ► really glad that we dodged that bullet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3445">TS</a>]
00:57:27 ◼ ► because I was worried we were going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3447">TS</a>]
00:57:29 ◼ ► there's a tiny yeah there's a tiny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3449">TS</a>]
00:57:34 ◼ ► cynical part of me that thinks the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3454">TS</a>]
00:57:35 ◼ ► reason they threw her into captain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3455">TS</a>]
00:57:36 ◼ ► america 2 with something they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3456">TS</a>]
00:57:38 ◼ ► sidestep any well we don't need to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3458">TS</a>]
00:57:40 ◼ ► a Black Widow movie because she's it she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3460">TS</a>]
00:57:43 ◼ ► whereas i would love to see a black [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3463">TS</a>]
00:57:45 ◼ ► would definitely I think it'd be great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3465">TS</a>]
00:57:47 ◼ ► you could argue that the captain america [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3467">TS</a>]
00:57:48 ◼ ► movie isn't a captain america movie it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3468">TS</a>]
00:57:51 ◼ ► yeah and that and therefore all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3471">TS</a>]
00:57:53 ◼ ► shield people are in it and she's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3473">TS</a>]
00:57:55 ◼ ► yeah but yeah other than that Hawkeye [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3475">TS</a>]
00:57:57 ◼ ► and i can only assume he's posing for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3477">TS</a>]
00:58:00 ◼ ► well this is the star trek argument [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3480">TS</a>]
00:58:01 ◼ ► right cuz Star Trek was given so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3481">TS</a>]
00:58:04 ◼ ► incredibly diverse but if you look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3484">TS</a>]
00:58:08 ◼ ► it's like well they had one woman had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3488">TS</a>]
00:58:10 ◼ ► one black person the same person but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3490">TS</a>]
00:58:13 ◼ ► we'll just put those together and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3493">TS</a>]
00:58:15 ◼ ► they had mr. Sulu and then yeah that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3495">TS</a>]
00:58:19 ◼ ► it so and then a supernumeraries right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3499">TS</a>]
00:58:23 ◼ ► there yet that was groundbreaking at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3503">TS</a>]
00:58:24 ◼ ► time but I i think i think Star Trek is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3504">TS</a>]
00:58:27 ◼ ► such a good example of how geek culture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3507">TS</a>]
00:58:30 ◼ ► uses a male ruler to evaluate things and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3510">TS</a>]
00:58:37 ◼ ► um my favorite star track by miles and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3517">TS</a>]
00:58:40 ◼ ► miles and miles and miles is Star Trek [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3520">TS</a>]
00:58:43 ◼ ► Voyager you have you have a kick-ass [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3523">TS</a>]
00:58:46 ◼ ► extremely complicated interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3526">TS</a>]
00:58:49 ◼ ► captain you have a female engineer who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3529">TS</a>]
00:58:53 ◼ ► is wrestling with her Klingon side in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3533">TS</a>]
00:58:59 ◼ ► okay Cass isn't that great you found [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3539">TS</a>]
00:59:01 ◼ ► seven of nine who I would put up against [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3541">TS</a>]
00:59:04 ◼ ► Spock I would put up against any other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3544">TS</a>]
00:59:07 ◼ ► character in all of Star Trek history [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3547">TS</a>]
00:59:10 ◼ ► ever is probably the best character in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3550">TS</a>]
00:59:13 ◼ ► all star trac been awesome at her job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3553">TS</a>]
00:59:16 ◼ ► deadly competent awesome character art [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3556">TS</a>]
00:59:19 ◼ ► great plots about her but it's held up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3559">TS</a>]
00:59:23 ◼ ► and there's no star trek this more hated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3563">TS</a>]
00:59:25 ◼ ► than Blecher even enterprise which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3565">TS</a>]
00:59:28 ◼ ► amazing to me that I don't agree with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3568">TS</a>]
00:59:30 ◼ ► that I together president we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3570">TS</a>]
00:59:31 ◼ ► someplace here but ya know but you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3571">TS</a>]
00:59:33 ◼ ► right in phantom it's probably area it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3573">TS</a>]
00:59:35 ◼ ► is so pilloried it is so blasted and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3575">TS</a>]
00:59:41 ◼ ► yeah it's my favorite too we don't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3581">TS</a>]
00:59:43 ◼ ► about seven of nine as a character i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3583">TS</a>]
00:59:45 ◼ ► on the other side of that are ya i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3585">TS</a>]
00:59:47 ◼ ► i just got the stories were dome I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3587">TS</a>]
00:59:49 ◼ ► wasn't the characters and yeah like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3589">TS</a>]
00:59:50 ◼ ► story's already the series finale [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3590">TS</a>]
00:59:53 ◼ ► oh that was the book that was the worst [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3593">TS</a>]
00:59:54 ◼ ► yeah I felt like they really jipped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3594">TS</a>]
00:59:56 ◼ ► Janeway and I felt like in a way that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3596">TS</a>]
00:59:57 ◼ ► kind of punished her for being who she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3597">TS</a>]
01:00:00 ◼ ► as the guy who'd been repeated the blood [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3600">TS</a>]
01:00:01 ◼ ► pictures for the whole series runs off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3601">TS</a>]
01:00:03 ◼ ► with the ex cyborg so she can give him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3603">TS</a>]
01:00:06 ◼ ► the emotional fulfillment he needs and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3606">TS</a>]
01:00:08 ◼ ► thought that's a message to send that a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3608">TS</a>]
01:00:10 ◼ ► woman can gosh the community goes again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3610">TS</a>]
01:00:13 ◼ ► sorry you re a hopeful sign language its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3613">TS</a>]
01:00:18 ◼ ► kind of language with right return [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3618">TS</a>]
01:00:20 ◼ ► language to set this message to send it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3620">TS</a>]
01:00:23 ◼ ► you know women can have a career or she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3623">TS</a>]
01:00:24 ◼ ► could have a feeling personal life but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3624">TS</a>]
01:00:26 ◼ ► she doesn't get to have both and yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3626">TS</a>]
01:00:28 ◼ ► and that's never ever something that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3628">TS</a>]
01:00:30 ◼ ► comes up for any of the men on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3630">TS</a>]
01:00:32 ◼ ► series i I've never thought about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3632">TS</a>]
01:00:34 ◼ ► and watch the episode hundred times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3634">TS</a>]
01:00:36 ◼ ► you're absolutely right card can be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3636">TS</a>]
01:00:38 ◼ ► hard leader Kurt can be a hard later if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3638">TS</a>]
01:00:42 ◼ ► what does she end up evil in the end in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3642">TS</a>]
01:00:48 ◼ ► yes yes no one will love you for making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3648">TS</a>]
01:00:51 ◼ ► the hard decisions it's just and it also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3651">TS</a>]
01:00:54 ◼ ► the reason is so baffled angry by that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3654">TS</a>]
01:00:56 ◼ ► is if you take a look at even NASA space [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3656">TS</a>]
01:00:58 ◼ ► program with the exception of the lady [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3658">TS</a>]
01:01:00 ◼ ► who drove across the country wearing a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3660">TS</a>]
01:01:02 ◼ ► nearly every woman nearly every woman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3662">TS</a>]
01:01:05 ◼ ► has gone through NASA's program has not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3665">TS</a>]
01:01:08 ◼ ► environment she seems to have a decent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3668">TS</a>]
01:01:09 ◼ ► personal life to like we have actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3669">TS</a>]
01:01:12 ◼ ► live astronauts have commanded missions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3672">TS</a>]
01:01:14 ◼ ► who were doing ok you know balancing out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3674">TS</a>]
01:01:17 ◼ ► everything that they need to feel happy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3677">TS</a>]
01:01:19 ◼ ► and well rounded and then we have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3679">TS</a>]
01:01:21 ◼ ► fictitious character a couple hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3681">TS</a>]
01:01:22 ◼ ► years from now on a post-scarcity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3682">TS</a>]
01:01:24 ◼ ► economy who doesn't get that and she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3684">TS</a>]
01:01:26 ◼ ► running across diverse cultures everyday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3686">TS</a>]
01:01:28 ◼ ► like what the heck why is this a thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3688">TS</a>]
01:01:30 ◼ ► no I have to say like is a leader though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3690">TS</a>]
01:01:32 ◼ ► like I run a company in an extremely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3692">TS</a>]
01:01:35 ◼ ► male-dominated the sexist industry and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3695">TS</a>]
01:01:38 ◼ ► can tell you like I'm held to double [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3698">TS</a>]
01:01:43 ◼ ► business deals assign or just in general [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3703">TS</a>]
01:01:47 ◼ ► frustrating and that's part of why like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3707">TS</a>]
01:01:52 ◼ ► so strongly like even as a child I saw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3712">TS</a>]
01:01:56 ◼ ► her is like an aspirational figure like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3716">TS</a>]
01:01:59 ◼ ► women can be starship captains and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3719">TS</a>]
01:02:02 ◼ ► again it just really bothers me that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3722">TS</a>]
01:02:05 ◼ ► mail geek culture that has this voice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3725">TS</a>]
01:02:08 ◼ ► that drowns out all other opinions just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3728">TS</a>]
01:02:10 ◼ ► cuz I don't like it you can look up the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3730">TS</a>]
01:02:13 ◼ ► is for Star Trek Voyager and like one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3733">TS</a>]
01:02:16 ◼ ► them is something about like I hate this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3736">TS</a>]
01:02:18 ◼ ► chick captain is flying across the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3738">TS</a>]
01:02:20 ◼ ► galaxy or something like that you guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3740">TS</a>]
01:02:23 ◼ ► are making the extra happy right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3743">TS</a>]
01:02:26 ◼ ► I think one of the reasons i was dropped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3746">TS</a>]
01:02:28 ◼ ► so drawn to it was because what if i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3748">TS</a>]
01:02:30 ◼ ► don't actually delenn because she's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3750">TS</a>]
01:02:34 ◼ ► characters ever I mean she it so often [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3754">TS</a>]
01:02:37 ◼ ► carries that show i think and hope it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3757">TS</a>]
01:02:40 ◼ ► just makes me happy yeah you know I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3760">TS</a>]
01:02:42 ◼ ► never seen the oh yeah Oh watch it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3762">TS</a>]
01:02:45 ◼ ► there's a podcast you should be that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3765">TS</a>]
01:02:47 ◼ ► what they're doing a rewatch from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3767">TS</a>]
01:02:48 ◼ ► beginning that as a matter of fact turn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3768">TS</a>]
01:02:51 ◼ ► sounds Erica might be all but yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3771">TS</a>]
01:02:54 ◼ ► anyway it's maybe I've been listening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3774">TS</a>]
01:02:57 ◼ ► oh thanks yeah oh yeah see there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3777">TS</a>]
01:03:00 ◼ ► plug right there we were actually a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3780">TS</a>]
01:03:03 ◼ ► battle and five is an interesting show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3783">TS</a>]
01:03:04 ◼ ► too I mean it was it was made in the 90 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3784">TS</a>]
01:03:06 ◼ ► so you still have a lot of probably more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3786">TS</a>]
01:03:09 ◼ ► strong male characters than you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3789">TS</a>]
01:03:11 ◼ ► strong female characters but it's much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3791">TS</a>]
01:03:12 ◼ ► more balanced than most of the stuff you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3792">TS</a>]
01:03:14 ◼ ► saw the time and even the crowd scenes I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3794">TS</a>]
01:03:16 ◼ ► I make it a point now in this rewatch to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3796">TS</a>]
01:03:18 ◼ ► just kind of like look at the background [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3798">TS</a>]
01:03:20 ◼ ► when they are doing a good crowd scenes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3800">TS</a>]
01:03:22 ◼ ► in the zocalo and it is if not more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3802">TS</a>]
01:03:25 ◼ ► female than male I mean they they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3805">TS</a>]
01:03:27 ◼ ► really made it a real world in that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3807">TS</a>]
01:03:29 ◼ ► actually have like people of different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3809">TS</a>]
01:03:31 ◼ ► races and different genders it's great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3811">TS</a>]
01:03:34 ◼ ► yeah thought of battlestar galactica [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3814">TS</a>]
01:03:38 ◼ ► that's why I feel I feel like a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3818">TS</a>]
01:03:42 ◼ ► that's why I've been so frustrated with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3822">TS</a>]
01:03:45 ◼ ► the star trek reboot which are fantastic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3825">TS</a>]
01:03:48 ◼ ► films but they're just no women in them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3828">TS</a>]
01:03:50 ◼ ► like in the last one star trek into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3830">TS</a>]
01:03:52 ◼ ► darkness like abu huraira is the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3832">TS</a>]
01:03:54 ◼ ► woman in there and she plays a nagging [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3834">TS</a>]
01:03:56 ◼ ► girlfriend the entire time while the men [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3836">TS</a>]
01:03:58 ◼ ► go off and have adventures there are no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3838">TS</a>]
01:04:00 ◼ ► female starship captain so they wrote in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3840">TS</a>]
01:04:02 ◼ ► Carol Marcus and then they have the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3842">TS</a>]
01:04:04 ◼ ► ridiculous scene where she's just in her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3844">TS</a>]
01:04:05 ◼ ► bra straps or no angry why are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3845">TS</a>]
01:04:08 ◼ ► shuttlecraft it doesn't make any sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3848">TS</a>]
01:04:09 ◼ ► but I felt like from from some seriously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3849">TS</a>]
01:04:13 ◼ ► from some remove I look at that as an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3853">TS</a>]
01:04:18 ◼ ► I mean I think they're really I i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3858">TS</a>]
01:04:20 ◼ ► they felt like they couldn't we re [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3860">TS</a>]
01:04:23 ◼ ► gender a character like Battlestar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3863">TS</a>]
01:04:27 ◼ ► did and I look at Carol Marcus decision [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3867">TS</a>]
01:04:29 ◼ ► as ham-handed as it wasn't way is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3869">TS</a>]
01:04:31 ◼ ► essentially inserting a woman into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3871">TS</a>]
01:04:34 ◼ ► ensemble so that they can have her in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3874">TS</a>]
01:04:35 ◼ ► there next time right which i think is I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3875">TS</a>]
01:04:38 ◼ ► think that's a good thing it's sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3878">TS</a>]
01:04:39 ◼ ► like adding tutorial to the hobbit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3879">TS</a>]
01:04:40 ◼ ► however instead of you know doing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3880">TS</a>]
01:04:42 ◼ ► awesome rivers poster thing they did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3882">TS</a>]
01:04:44 ◼ ► exactly what they shouldn't have done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3884">TS</a>]
01:04:47 ◼ ► yeah she shows up with a bra and she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3887">TS</a>]
01:04:50 ◼ ► the daughter of the of the villain and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3890">TS</a>]
01:04:53 ◼ ► they could put a nurse Chapel you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3893">TS</a>]
01:04:55 ◼ ► she could have been in there too and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3895">TS</a>]
01:04:56 ◼ ► they didn't do that wasn't a case of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3896">TS</a>]
01:04:58 ◼ ► again them inserting another another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3898">TS</a>]
01:05:01 ◼ ► character in the original series later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3901">TS</a>]
01:05:03 ◼ ► to add more women to the mix so I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3903">TS</a>]
01:05:05 ◼ ► agree i feel like it's tough because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3905">TS</a>]
01:05:07 ◼ ► they already were going up against so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3907">TS</a>]
01:05:09 ◼ ► much in terms of rewriting this sacred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3909">TS</a>]
01:05:12 ◼ ► texts almost of fandom but it it for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3912">TS</a>]
01:05:17 ◼ ► it shows the most glaring problem which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3917">TS</a>]
01:05:19 ◼ ► is what i said earlier as diverse as it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3919">TS</a>]
01:05:21 ◼ ► seemed at the time if you take the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3921">TS</a>]
01:05:23 ◼ ► that same set of characters in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3923">TS</a>]
01:05:25 ◼ ► present day it's not diverse anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3925">TS</a>]
01:05:27 ◼ ► although i can't i cannot fault them for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3927">TS</a>]
01:05:31 ◼ ► characters because the way that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3931">TS</a>]
01:05:34 ◼ ► universe and I don't know it it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3934">TS</a>]
01:05:36 ◼ ► i'm not sure that i could necessarily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3936">TS</a>]
01:05:41 ◼ ► universe change that suddenly somebody's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3941">TS</a>]
01:05:43 ◼ ► somebody's sex changed a lot of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3943">TS</a>]
01:05:45 ◼ ► extra characters on the bridge they they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3945">TS</a>]
01:05:48 ◼ ► obviously made a point of having them be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3948">TS</a>]
01:05:50 ◼ ► women but they're not they're not named [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3950">TS</a>]
01:05:57 ◼ ► right o hara is being get the nagging [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3957">TS</a>]
01:06:01 ◼ ► girlfriend why do the alice eve is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3961">TS</a>]
01:06:03 ◼ ► wonderful actress by the way have you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3963">TS</a>]
01:06:05 ◼ ► ever heard her speak professionally like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3965">TS</a>]
01:06:07 ◼ ► she is on her game like this is a woman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3967">TS</a>]
01:06:10 ◼ ► that can be more than just a Victoria's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3970">TS</a>]
01:06:13 ◼ ► Secret model in the movie he now in you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3973">TS</a>]
01:06:16 ◼ ► see on the trailer she's screaming in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3976">TS</a>]
01:06:18 ◼ ► I mean like it's 1950 you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3978">TS</a>]
01:06:20 ◼ ► that's right you gotta mix but you gotta [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3980">TS</a>]
01:06:25 ◼ ► mix the random bra scene with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3985">TS</a>]
01:06:27 ◼ ► screaming I do wonder how much of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3987">TS</a>]
01:06:29 ◼ ► is a reflection of the movie industry as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3989">TS</a>]
01:06:31 ◼ ► a whole versus the TV industry because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3991">TS</a>]
01:06:33 ◼ ► there's a fairly small but growing body [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3993">TS</a>]
01:06:38 ◼ ► of work that shows that television is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/3998">TS</a>]
01:06:40 ◼ ► been primarily a female medium moon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4000">TS</a>]
01:06:42 ◼ ► terms of viewership by and so there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4002">TS</a>]
01:06:50 ◼ ► business pressure to make the type of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4010">TS</a>]
01:06:51 ◼ ► things that women are going to want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4011">TS</a>]
01:06:53 ◼ ► watch for women with their families [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4013">TS</a>]
01:06:54 ◼ ► watch and there is also a growing body [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4014">TS</a>]
01:06:58 ◼ ► of articles in show biz journals and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4018">TS</a>]
01:07:01 ◼ ► what's curly wrong with the movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4021">TS</a>]
01:07:02 ◼ ► industry is there making all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4022">TS</a>]
01:07:04 ◼ ► movies with this mythical young male [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4024">TS</a>]
01:07:06 ◼ ► audience in mind while completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4026">TS</a>]
01:07:07 ◼ ► ignoring the economic drivers for a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4027">TS</a>]
01:07:10 ◼ ► of senate in which are you know younger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4030">TS</a>]
01:07:11 ◼ ► and older women absolutely look at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4031">TS</a>]
01:07:14 ◼ ► video game industry its exact same thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4034">TS</a>]
01:07:16 ◼ ► I look at the hunger yeah but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4036">TS</a>]
01:07:18 ◼ ► people are like surprised that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4038">TS</a>]
01:07:19 ◼ ► hunger games did well I don't like have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4039">TS</a>]
01:07:22 ◼ ► is the ability to read a best-seller [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4042">TS</a>]
01:07:26 ◼ ► and by the way that book is great that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4046">TS</a>]
01:07:27 ◼ ► was wonderful I really you know i'm one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4047">TS</a>]
01:07:30 ◼ ► of the few people who loved how the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4050">TS</a>]
01:07:32 ◼ ► yeah I am too yeah cuz I thought that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4052">TS</a>]
01:07:36 ◼ ► couldn't have had all we can spoil ok [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4056">TS</a>]
01:07:38 ◼ ► nevermind I I yeah i'm not one of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4058">TS</a>]
01:07:42 ◼ ► disaster but you know that's ok that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4062">TS</a>]
01:07:45 ◼ ► topic for another time but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4065">TS</a>]
01:07:48 ◼ ► Jennifer Lawrence the weekend reaction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4068">TS</a>]
01:07:50 ◼ ► that was like really be considered for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4070">TS</a>]
01:07:52 ◼ ► Lawrence's basically carry on their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4072">TS</a>]
01:07:53 ◼ ► franchise and to be tiny jazz person and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4073">TS</a>]
01:07:57 ◼ ► she's doing a great job with it and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4077">TS</a>]
01:07:58 ◼ ► know i would argue that she cheated evan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4078">TS</a>]
01:08:00 ◼ ► peters are the two best things about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4080">TS</a>]
01:08:02 ◼ ► ex the most recent expeditions she's got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4082">TS</a>]
01:08:06 ◼ ► why they are not casting her as an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4086">TS</a>]
01:08:08 ◼ ► actual well now she's locked into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4088">TS</a>]
01:08:10 ◼ ► x-men franchise they can't but honestly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4090">TS</a>]
01:08:12 ◼ ► somebody with some vision somewhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4092">TS</a>]
01:08:13 ◼ ► should've cast her as like a legit you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4093">TS</a>]
01:08:17 ◼ ► know Tyson flights type superhero I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4097">TS</a>]
01:08:18 ◼ ► would have loved to have seen her as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4098">TS</a>]
01:08:21 ◼ ► character marvel as a Black Canary Jesus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4101">TS</a>]
01:08:24 ◼ ► can you imagine his blackberry she'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4104">TS</a>]
01:08:27 ◼ ► yeah yeah you know if it if you do the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4107">TS</a>]
01:08:30 ◼ ► Justice League right need a black canary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4110">TS</a>]
01:08:32 ◼ ► who seems like you can be one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4112">TS</a>]
01:08:33 ◼ ► guys and more intense that quality to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4113">TS</a>]
01:08:35 ◼ ► and moreover sexual submitted can fight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4115">TS</a>]
01:08:38 ◼ ► so you can cannot return to something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4118">TS</a>]
01:08:41 ◼ ► you're saying which is you're talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4121">TS</a>]
01:08:46 ◼ ► demographics having this fictional being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4126">TS</a>]
01:08:50 ◼ ► in mind in video games there was a study [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4130">TS</a>]
01:08:54 ◼ ► that was just released that showed that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4134">TS</a>]
01:08:56 ◼ ► women are forty-eight percent of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4136">TS</a>]
01:09:00 ◼ ► video game market of the video game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4140">TS</a>]
01:09:02 ◼ ► consumer 48-percent forty-eight percent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4142">TS</a>]
01:09:05 ◼ ► because that one more time forty-eight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4145">TS</a>]
01:09:07 ◼ ► percent in in the meantime you have this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4147">TS</a>]
01:09:10 ◼ ► entire industry that is funded by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4150">TS</a>]
01:09:13 ◼ ► madness managed by men is developed by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4153">TS</a>]
01:09:15 ◼ ► men it's marketed men it's you know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4155">TS</a>]
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01:09:22 ◼ ► audience by clinging to these old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4162">TS</a>]
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01:09:33 ◼ ► it's just not that way anymore in even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4173">TS</a>]
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01:09:52 ◼ ► so stupid to make us like one character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4192">TS</a>]
01:09:55 ◼ ► in the movie film executives are not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4195">TS</a>]
01:09:57 ◼ ► well known in general for their good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4197">TS</a>]
01:09:59 ◼ ► judgment and this is you won yet you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4199">TS</a>]
01:10:02 ◼ ► know yet another example of that and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4202">TS</a>]
01:10:04 ◼ ► you see it in the posters and you see it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4204">TS</a>]
01:10:06 ◼ ► in the trailers even movies that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4206">TS</a>]
01:10:09 ◼ ► oftentimes the posters the trailers will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4209">TS</a>]
01:10:12 ◼ ► be worse or the green light decisions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4212">TS</a>]
01:10:14 ◼ ► end up being really stupid because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4214">TS</a>]
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01:10:20 ◼ ► movie when the hunger games is sitting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4220">TS</a>]
01:10:22 ◼ ► right there I can't have been the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4222">TS</a>]
01:10:24 ◼ ► little girl who rewrote Star Wars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4224">TS</a>]
01:10:25 ◼ ► forehead so it was Princess Leia flies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4225">TS</a>]
01:10:27 ◼ ► the Millennium Falcon and rescues Luke [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4227">TS</a>]
01:10:29 ◼ ► and Han again like that was the game i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4229">TS</a>]
01:10:31 ◼ ► played with my girlfriend's growing up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4231">TS</a>]
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01:10:37 ◼ ► had an issue with but they turned into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4237">TS</a>]
01:10:39 ◼ ► by the end of the third movie where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4239">TS</a>]
01:10:40 ◼ ► she's you know where her a walk party [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4240">TS</a>]
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01:10:55 ◼ ► achievement bikini or she's having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4255">TS</a>]
01:10:59 ◼ ► remember as a preamble something with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4259">TS</a>]
01:11:01 ◼ ► what did you do to my princess if with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4261">TS</a>]
01:11:03 ◼ ► to the fair that George Lucas was making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4263">TS</a>]
01:11:06 ◼ ► all kinds of bad decisions by this point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4266">TS</a>]
01:11:08 ◼ ► so you know there are probably people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4268">TS</a>]
01:11:11 ◼ ► who worked up over Luke Skywalker too so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4271">TS</a>]
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01:11:15 ◼ ► exist you know like lips up come to talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4275">TS</a>]
01:11:18 ◼ ► particles everywhere you gonna say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4278">TS</a>]
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01:11:22 ◼ ► back to the point that you made earlier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4282">TS</a>]
01:11:24 ◼ ► Jason just about how the media wanting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4284">TS</a>]
01:11:28 ◼ ► representation for women we don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4288">TS</a>]
01:11:30 ◼ ► necessarily need to like throw women at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4290">TS</a>]
01:11:32 ◼ ► everything and it's it's more about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4292">TS</a>]
01:11:34 ◼ ► good stories basically what it comes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4294">TS</a>]
01:11:36 ◼ ► down to and something that popped into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4296">TS</a>]
01:11:38 ◼ ► my head when thinking about that was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4298">TS</a>]
01:11:41 ◼ ► show that at first it didn't even occur [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4301">TS</a>]
01:11:44 ◼ ► to me because I don't think of it as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4304">TS</a>]
01:11:46 ◼ ► being a you know for girls show for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4306">TS</a>]
01:11:49 ◼ ► female show but it's orphan black which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4309">TS</a>]
01:11:54 ◼ ► characters and yes they're all played by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4314">TS</a>]
01:11:56 ◼ ► the segment but I mean that that show is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4316">TS</a>]
01:11:59 ◼ ► just you know it's rife with with Lady [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4319">TS</a>]
01:12:02 ◼ ► characters that are up all different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4322">TS</a>]
01:12:03 ◼ ► sorts and I its it doesn't really stand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4323">TS</a>]
01:12:06 ◼ ► out in my head as being something that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4326">TS</a>]
01:12:08 ◼ ► was made for women it's just not for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4328">TS</a>]
01:12:10 ◼ ► people who like really good stuff and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4330">TS</a>]
01:12:13 ◼ ► think that that's that's the ideal is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4333">TS</a>]
01:12:15 ◼ ► something that's just good for everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4335">TS</a>]
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01:12:21 ◼ ► never really even thought of that show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4341">TS</a>]
01:12:23 ◼ ► in any context other than being a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4343">TS</a>]
01:12:25 ◼ ► show and yes it is it has a female lead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4345">TS</a>]
01:12:28 ◼ ► or if you would like to say it's got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4348">TS</a>]
01:12:29 ◼ ► like five female lead role played by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4349">TS</a>]
01:12:31 ◼ ► same actress and it is just a great show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4351">TS</a>]
01:12:34 ◼ ► and and and I think that's why Manuel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4354">TS</a>]
01:12:37 ◼ ► where we all want to end up is is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4357">TS</a>]
01:12:41 ◼ ► have to think about this because this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4361">TS</a>]
01:12:42 ◼ ► this is coming from a place of absence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4362">TS</a>]
01:12:46 ◼ ► where you look for a reflection of of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4366">TS</a>]
01:12:49 ◼ ► the world which is populated by men and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4369">TS</a>]
01:12:53 ◼ ► women and then you don't see it and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4373">TS</a>]
01:12:55 ◼ ► leads to all sorts of distorted world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4375">TS</a>]
01:12:58 ◼ ► views of people who think that the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4378">TS</a>]
01:13:00 ◼ ► mirror is what they see and in the media [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4380">TS</a>]
01:13:03 ◼ ► and that leads to you know even more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4383">TS</a>]
01:13:06 ◼ ► issues and i'm not saying that like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4386">TS</a>]
01:13:07 ◼ ► movies you watch are responsible for bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4387">TS</a>]
01:13:09 ◼ ► things that happened to the video games [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4389">TS</a>]
01:13:12 ◼ ► other you know distortion in reality and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4392">TS</a>]
01:13:16 ◼ ► there are lots of people who think you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4396">TS</a>]
01:13:18 ◼ ► know I think crazy things about reality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4398">TS</a>]
01:13:20 ◼ ► because they think you know the song on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4400">TS</a>]
01:13:22 ◼ ► TV so it does it's additive and all you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4402">TS</a>]
01:13:24 ◼ ► know I i would like to see you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4404">TS</a>]
01:13:27 ◼ ► great when it gets the point where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4407">TS</a>]
01:13:28 ◼ ► don't even think about it and it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4408">TS</a>]
01:13:29 ◼ ► like of course and it's not so much that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4409">TS</a>]
01:13:31 ◼ ► they saw it on TV or they saw it in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4411">TS</a>]
01:13:33 ◼ ► movie like you said it's because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4413">TS</a>]
01:13:35 ◼ ► keep seeing it on TV and a cape see in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4415">TS</a>]
01:13:37 ◼ ► the movies if there were some like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4417">TS</a>]
01:13:39 ◼ ► and some with more women than men and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4419">TS</a>]
01:13:41 ◼ ► some with an even amount like it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4421">TS</a>]
01:13:44 ◼ ► that would be fantastic i think i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4424">TS</a>]
01:13:46 ◼ ► that's why you know you're talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4426">TS</a>]
01:13:47 ◼ ► the bechdel test being like it's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4427">TS</a>]
01:13:49 ◼ ► interesting tool just to show us how how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4429">TS</a>]
01:13:51 ◼ ► low the bar is on a big scale I i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4431">TS</a>]
01:13:54 ◼ ► all these all these things add up to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4434">TS</a>]
01:13:57 ◼ ► real problems i think that if you add up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4437">TS</a>]
01:14:02 ◼ ► television shows all the comics like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4442">TS</a>]
01:14:05 ◼ ► your entire culture even the toys were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4445">TS</a>]
01:14:06 ◼ ► talking about earlier i think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4446">TS</a>]
01:14:08 ◼ ► message over and over again is women be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4448">TS</a>]
01:14:10 ◼ ► pretty women be a lot of object you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4450">TS</a>]
01:14:13 ◼ ► like you can fit into this very narrow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4453">TS</a>]
01:14:18 ◼ ► consequences for the way that women are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4458">TS</a>]
01:14:20 ◼ ► socialized and the things we choose to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4460">TS</a>]
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01:14:26 ◼ ► guess it must know my other people on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4466">TS</a>]
01:14:29 ◼ ► the comcast with me that you guys had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4469">TS</a>]
01:14:30 ◼ ► point we had to kind of go like i am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4470">TS</a>]
01:14:33 ◼ ► more than somebody that's just valued [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4473">TS</a>]
01:14:35 ◼ ► for my looks and I need to know I kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4475">TS</a>]
01:14:38 ◼ ► of have to go beyond this culture it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4478">TS</a>]
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01:14:41 ◼ ► don't eat right don't take care and how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4481">TS</a>]
01:14:46 ◼ ► yourself beyond and that's a message [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4486">TS</a>]
01:14:48 ◼ ► that every professional woman I now is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4488">TS</a>]
01:14:51 ◼ ► kind of had to move beyond because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4491">TS</a>]
01:14:53 ◼ ► so stark in our culture can you talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4493">TS</a>]
01:14:55 ◼ ► about the trip that an attractive woman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4495">TS</a>]
01:14:58 ◼ ► is somehow a reward for a man that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4498">TS</a>]
01:15:00 ◼ ► something good will happen right because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4500">TS</a>]
01:15:04 ◼ ► eye-opener moment in geek culture where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4504">TS</a>]
01:15:06 ◼ ► the first time I had to friendzone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4506">TS</a>]
01:15:08 ◼ ► somebody his attitude was but I've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4508">TS</a>]
01:15:10 ◼ ► nothing but a good friend this is my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4510">TS</a>]
01:15:11 ◼ ► reward for and I was just shocked that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4511">TS</a>]
01:15:14 ◼ ► was supposed to be somebody's report as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4514">TS</a>]
01:15:15 ◼ ► opposed to a person with agency but once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4515">TS</a>]
01:15:19 ◼ ► that was pointed out I started seeing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4519">TS</a>]
01:15:21 ◼ ► in the books i was reading in the comics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4521">TS</a>]
01:15:22 ◼ ► i was reading in the movies i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4522">TS</a>]
01:15:24 ◼ ► watching the TV shows i was seeing our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4524">TS</a>]
01:15:26 ◼ ► pretty champion wrote a piece called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4526">TS</a>]
01:15:28 ◼ ► your princess is in another castle which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4528">TS</a>]
01:15:30 ◼ ► is about this very point right which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4530">TS</a>]
01:15:32 ◼ ► the idea that in all sorts of fiction in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4532">TS</a>]
01:15:34 ◼ ► video games the I karateka the game i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4534">TS</a>]
01:15:38 ◼ ► played as a kid that I love the girl is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4538">TS</a>]
01:15:41 ◼ ► the reward for the boy at the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4541">TS</a>]
01:15:44 ◼ ► because they succeed there they are a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4544">TS</a>]
01:15:46 ◼ ► trophy they are a reward and that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4546">TS</a>]
01:15:50 ◼ ► know obviously some current events and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4550">TS</a>]
01:15:52 ◼ ► terrible things that have happened in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4552">TS</a>]
01:15:53 ◼ ► society play you know point this out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4553">TS</a>]
01:15:56 ◼ ► that that it's one of these things you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4556">TS</a>]
01:15:59 ◼ ► don't think of until you really pay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4559">TS</a>]
01:16:00 ◼ ► attention and then you realize how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4560">TS</a>]
01:16:02 ◼ ► horribly corrosive it actually is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4562">TS</a>]
01:16:03 ◼ ► mmm yes those are the most dangerous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4563">TS</a>]
01:16:05 ◼ ► ones the ones are so subtle like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4565">TS</a>]
01:16:08 ◼ ► you just you don't even think about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4568">TS</a>]
01:16:09 ◼ ► that way until somebody slaps you across [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4569">TS</a>]
01:16:11 ◼ ► the face with it and you're like oh my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4571">TS</a>]
01:16:12 ◼ ► god i've been i've been playing into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4572">TS</a>]
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01:16:17 ◼ ► life reading these books and thinking oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4577">TS</a>]
01:16:18 ◼ ► isn't that sweet they get together at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4578">TS</a>]
01:16:20 ◼ ► the end and now i take a little step [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4580">TS</a>]
01:16:22 ◼ ► sideways look at it with my head tilted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4582">TS</a>]
01:16:25 ◼ ► although to be fair in karateka in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4585">TS</a>]
01:16:28 ◼ ► karateka if you run at the princess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4588">TS</a>]
01:16:30 ◼ ► instead of walk to the princes at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4590">TS</a>]
01:16:32 ◼ ► end she punches you dead so there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4592">TS</a>]
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01:16:38 ◼ ► with the captain janeway think Captain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4598">TS</a>]
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01:16:46 ◼ ► have a similar situation with an l [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4606">TS</a>]
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01:16:59 ◼ ► experiences and it seems like there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4619">TS</a>]
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01:17:03 ◼ ► it's just confined to Ecomedia but there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4623">TS</a>]
01:17:05 ◼ ► are still some narratives that have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4625">TS</a>]
01:17:06 ◼ ► really difficult time with the radical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4626">TS</a>]
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01:17:11 ◼ ► more than one thing and that women can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4631">TS</a>]
01:17:12 ◼ ► be defined by something other than the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4632">TS</a>]
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01:17:16 ◼ ► right or you know even motherhood I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4636">TS</a>]
01:17:18 ◼ ► nothing but respect to me of female [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4638">TS</a>]
01:17:21 ◼ ► parents out there but I made a decision [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4641">TS</a>]
01:17:23 ◼ ► that my life is going to be about my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4643">TS</a>]
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01:17:31 ◼ ► disrespected and me because there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4651">TS</a>]
01:17:33 ◼ ► this narrative over and over again like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4653">TS</a>]
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01:17:42 ◼ ► time you saw any woman in a movie over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4662">TS</a>]
01:17:44 ◼ ► 40 that was not a mom let me barely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4664">TS</a>]
01:17:48 ◼ ► happen or not the butt of a joke because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4668">TS</a>]
01:17:50 ◼ ► she's yeah mom write a date you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4670">TS</a>]
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01:17:56 ◼ ► past a couple of coworkers at a edit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4676">TS</a>]
01:17:58 ◼ ► edit all hands meeting where two of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4678">TS</a>]
01:18:01 ◼ ► were talking about clinical desert [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4681">TS</a>]
01:18:03 ◼ ► desert glass ceilings from for working [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4683">TS</a>]
01:18:05 ◼ ► mothers and I I and as I'm wobbling past [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4685">TS</a>]
01:18:09 ◼ ► several months pregnant was kind of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4689">TS</a>]
01:18:10 ◼ ► real shock to realize that I had just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4690">TS</a>]
01:18:12 ◼ ► been shunted from one category to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4692">TS</a>]
01:18:13 ◼ ► another in their brain because of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4693">TS</a>]
01:18:15 ◼ ► private personal decision so you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4695">TS</a>]
01:18:18 ◼ ► you can tell you're no larger point is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4698">TS</a>]
01:18:22 ◼ ► depiction media if you're childless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4702">TS</a>]
01:18:25 ◼ ► women must be because there's something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4705">TS</a>]
01:18:26 ◼ ► wrong you can be empty inside and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4706">TS</a>]
01:18:28 ◼ ► couldn't be further from the truth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4708">TS</a>]
01:18:29 ◼ ► you know people people choose the family [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4709">TS</a>]
01:18:31 ◼ ► configuration they have for 70 different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4711">TS</a>]
01:18:33 ◼ ► reasons and under anyone's business here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4713">TS</a>]
01:18:36 ◼ ► could never work through the power were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4716">TS</a>]
01:18:40 ◼ ► / are our by quite a bit so I want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4720">TS</a>]
01:18:42 ◼ ► any other things you would like to bring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4722">TS</a>]
01:18:44 ◼ ► up now would be a time but if you were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4724">TS</a>]
01:18:46 ◼ ► going to regret later not mentioning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4726">TS</a>]
01:18:47 ◼ ► them this would be a good time to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4727">TS</a>]
01:18:50 ◼ ► pratchett in the Tiffany aching books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4730">TS</a>]
01:18:53 ◼ ► adolescent girl in your life he should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4733">TS</a>]
01:18:54 ◼ ► hand her the those books i think i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4734">TS</a>]
01:18:57 ◼ ► those I think those are set on the right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4737">TS</a>]
01:19:00 ◼ ► oh yeah if we're doing last-minute Rex [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4740">TS</a>]
01:19:01 ◼ ► then I will let's do i will recommend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4741">TS</a>]
01:19:03 ◼ ► that actually i don't know if i should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4743">TS</a>]
01:19:05 ◼ ► recommend it now because it's a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4745">TS</a>]
01:19:08 ◼ ► dragonriders of Pern was really into oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4748">TS</a>]
01:19:14 ◼ ► once again American least have to do a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4754">TS</a>]
01:19:15 ◼ ► podcast after that yeah that's actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4755">TS</a>]
01:19:17 ◼ ► i just i turn my head a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4757">TS</a>]
01:19:18 ◼ ► farther a few minutes ago and I realized [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4758">TS</a>]
01:19:20 ◼ ► that my other shelf of the two is all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4760">TS</a>]
01:19:23 ◼ ► and McCaffrey Andre Norton yeah so here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4763">TS</a>]
01:19:29 ◼ ► here yeah i'd recommend cherry temper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4769">TS</a>]
01:19:31 ◼ ► her books i would recommend people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4771">TS</a>]
01:19:38 ◼ ► recommend a wide recommend discworld in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4778">TS</a>]
01:19:40 ◼ ► general but terry pratchett is a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4780">TS</a>]
01:19:42 ◼ ► job if they have the witches in them and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4782">TS</a>]
01:19:43 ◼ ► especially the Tiffany aching books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4783">TS</a>]
01:19:45 ◼ ► which are into the young adult audience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4785">TS</a>]
01:19:47 ◼ ► yeah actually I had tried reading some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4787">TS</a>]
01:19:49 ◼ ► terry pratchett and the comics number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4789">TS</a>]
01:19:51 ◼ ► the comedy stuff doesn't usually do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4791">TS</a>]
01:19:52 ◼ ► for me but then somebody hand me one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4792">TS</a>]
01:19:54 ◼ ► the witches books and I was like this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4794">TS</a>]
01:19:55 ◼ ► where at that unfold like the first four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4795">TS</a>]
01:19:58 ◼ ► books in the Discworld series like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4798">TS</a>]
01:19:59 ◼ ► old the the more recent books are much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4799">TS</a>]
01:20:01 ◼ ► much better it's really gratifying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4801">TS</a>]
01:20:03 ◼ ► watch how he stretches and grows over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4803">TS</a>]
01:20:05 ◼ ► the archives career you know I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4805">TS</a>]
01:20:08 ◼ ► even know I didn't even know she was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4808">TS</a>]
01:20:11 ◼ ► terry pratchett's your daughter that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4811">TS</a>]
01:20:14 ◼ ► Rhianna Pratchett is the person writes a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4814">TS</a>]
01:20:17 ◼ ► lot of video game media and goddamn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4817">TS</a>]
01:20:20 ◼ ► unnoticed in the time since that people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4820">TS</a>]
01:20:22 ◼ ► only ever mention her father and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4822">TS</a>]
01:20:24 ◼ ► call you know her you know his daughter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4824">TS</a>]
01:20:27 ◼ ► which is beyond disrespectful but I give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4827">TS</a>]
01:20:30 ◼ ► me she has the tomb raider sequel coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4830">TS</a>]
01:20:32 ◼ ► out i think she does fantastic work also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4832">TS</a>]
01:20:34 ◼ ► i hope this doesn't feel like a plug but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4834">TS</a>]
01:20:36 ◼ ► you know my game revolution 16 is about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4836">TS</a>]
01:20:38 ◼ ► to come out and it's it's if you've ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4838">TS</a>]
01:20:42 ◼ ► played with Barbies and said this would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4842">TS</a>]
01:20:44 ◼ ► be great if you mixed with the plot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4844">TS</a>]
01:20:45 ◼ ► 24 in space like something i used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4845">TS</a>]
01:20:52 ◼ ► barbie and Buck Rogers have species [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4852">TS</a>]
01:20:53 ◼ ► interest it really is like for myself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4853">TS</a>]
01:20:58 ◼ ► I've looked at video games have said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4858">TS</a>]
01:21:00 ◼ ► where are the self actualized women [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4860">TS</a>]
01:21:03 ◼ ► where the women to do things where the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4863">TS</a>]
01:21:04 ◼ ► women the kick-out and they're not there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4864">TS</a>]
01:21:08 ◼ ► to be eye candy and you know it's a it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4868">TS</a>]
01:21:11 ◼ ► a narrative in all of an all-female team [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4871">TS</a>]
01:21:13 ◼ ► it is mass effect need to have a rain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4873">TS</a>]
01:21:16 ◼ ► it's a story every bit of is acted out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4876">TS</a>]
01:21:18 ◼ ► in 3d with voice acting and if you like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4878">TS</a>]
01:21:22 ◼ ► self-actualized women this is going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4882">TS</a>]
01:21:23 ◼ ► be the game that's more self actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4883">TS</a>]
01:21:26 ◼ ► this is anything you've ever seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4886">TS</a>]
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01:21:30 ◼ ► yeah that's a plug but it's a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4890">TS</a>]
01:21:32 ◼ ► loud alright thank you thank you Jason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4892">TS</a>]
01:21:35 ◼ ► for shit that all right well I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4895">TS</a>]
01:21:38 ◼ ► that's going to wrap it up for now but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4898">TS</a>]
01:21:40 ◼ ► excellent stimulating and interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4900">TS</a>]
01:21:42 ◼ ► discussion and lease only swear it a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4902">TS</a>]
01:21:44 ◼ ► little bit but Lisa's wiser thank you so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4904">TS</a>]
01:21:50 ◼ ► I'll have you know I'm trying for a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4910">TS</a>]
01:21:52 ◼ ► polite side of resisting the urge to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4912">TS</a>]
01:21:55 ◼ ► pepper with four-letter words that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4915">TS</a>]
01:21:57 ◼ ► got the spoiler Hornet does double date [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4917">TS</a>]
01:21:59 ◼ ► as the as the action was ever worn but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4919">TS</a>]
01:22:04 ◼ ► Erica and sign thank you so much for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4924">TS</a>]
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01:22:10 ◼ ► as as the one who has to sonic out the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4930">TS</a>]
01:22:12 ◼ ► swears on ferry I feel for ya you notice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4932">TS</a>]
01:22:15 ◼ ► and forgotten would thank you so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4935">TS</a>]
01:22:18 ◼ ► for coming and I appreciate happy to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4938">TS</a>]
01:22:19 ◼ ► crash here crash your party and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4939">TS</a>]
01:22:21 ◼ ► should referential you were on you were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4941">TS</a>]
01:22:23 ◼ ► on a cool episode of debug episode 34 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4943">TS</a>]
01:22:26 ◼ ► you can find that a time or comments [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4946">TS</a>]
01:22:29 ◼ ► about sexism and technology in the tech [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4949">TS</a>]
01:22:33 ◼ ► industry and it was a really great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4953">TS</a>]
01:22:37 ◼ ► Caldwell's on episode to so many other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4957">TS</a>]
01:22:41 ◼ ► this was great thanks so much for coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4961">TS</a>]
01:22:43 ◼ ► on and thanks everybody out there for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4963">TS</a>]
01:22:45 ◼ ► listening to the uncomfortable until we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4965">TS</a>]
01:22:48 ◼ ► meet again I remain Jason snow tonight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4968">TS</a>]
01:22:55 ◼ ► everybody before we go one note about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4975">TS</a>]
01:22:58 ◼ ► this episode we recorded a live on jun 9 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4978">TS</a>]
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01:23:04 ◼ ► game show it turns out that dlc the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4984">TS</a>]
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01:23:09 ◼ ► going to be doing a game special the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4989">TS</a>]
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01:23:14 ◼ ► five-by-five staff there was a mixup [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4994">TS</a>]
01:23:16 ◼ ► five-by-five has a live broadcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/4996">TS</a>]
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01:23:21 ◼ ► always on and they didn't check the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/5001">TS</a>]
01:23:24 ◼ ► calendar and they didn't communicate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/5004">TS</a>]
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01:23:28 ◼ ► we started streaming and I voluntarily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/5008">TS</a>]
01:23:30 ◼ ► dropped off because their stuff was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/5010">TS</a>]
01:23:33 ◼ ► newsworthy stuff from e3 and our stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/5013">TS</a>]
01:23:36 ◼ ► was something we were talking about a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/5016">TS</a>]
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01:23:44 ◼ ► didn't get a chance to and I'm sorry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/5024">TS</a>]
01:23:46 ◼ ► that that happened there was definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/5026">TS</a>]
01:23:50 ◼ ► apologize for the miscommunication [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMapw8Rk/5030">TS</a>]
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