Roderick on the Line

Ep. 221: "Riding the Ham"


00:00:00   hello hi John [TS]

00:00:07   hi Merlin how's it going well i'm proud [TS]

00:00:15   to be an American who huh oh well at [TS]

00:00:18   least I know I'm free [TS]

00:00:19   oh no I like that song i'm proud to live [TS]

00:00:23   in the land i love and that gave its [TS]

00:00:25   life for me was that I guess I don't [TS]

00:00:28   have all the lyrics that's pretty good [TS]

00:00:29   song [TS]

00:00:31   yeah it had it came under fire a lot [TS]

00:00:33   well I'm trying to you know get away [TS]

00:00:35   from the way to generate criticism or [TS]

00:00:37   whatever how it got used but I i like [TS]

00:00:39   the like the tune the tone the tune the [TS]

00:00:42   tone i feel like it's been helpful as [TS]

00:00:48   they got a lot of crazy names today I [TS]

00:00:49   feel like that came under fire just like [TS]

00:00:51   just like the man who composed well how [TS]

00:00:55   I'm trying to say is like the I mean the [TS]

00:00:57   there's the famous line from the song [TS]

00:00:59   but there's a reason we sing that line [TS]

00:01:01   and it's because it's really catchy it's [TS]

00:01:04   not what you expect in a chorus it's [TS]

00:01:06   hooky well and what it does is I i I'm [TS]

00:01:09   tired i mean i don't have the song front [TS]

00:01:11   of me I don't have a guitar but I feel [TS]

00:01:12   like it starts on the one chord let me [TS]

00:01:17   ask you if you did have a guitar right [TS]

00:01:18   now would you be capable of playing it I [TS]

00:01:21   haven't been used to be restoring no no [TS]

00:01:24   I don't mean would you be capable of [TS]

00:01:26   playing the guitar but would you be able [TS]

00:01:28   to play i'm proud to be an American is [TS]

00:01:31   it a song with in your repertoire now [TS]

00:01:34   but you know how it is when you do [TS]

00:01:37   enough like playing well we've talked [TS]

00:01:38   endlessly about playing along with [TS]

00:01:39   records and how you get a feel in your [TS]

00:01:42   hands for like when it's 24 and when [TS]

00:01:44   it's 250 you know that feeling your [TS]

00:01:47   hands if you like you know what I mean [TS]

00:01:48   oh right yeah it's like the feeling of [TS]

00:01:50   victory [TS]

00:01:51   mmm the green one in the morning [TS]

00:01:54   Thank You 105 but I feel like I feel [TS]

00:01:58   like it's probably like a pretty much [TS]

00:02:00   like a one-in-four kind of cadence for [TS]

00:02:02   most of it's not it's not super [TS]

00:02:04   interesting but the arrangement and the [TS]

00:02:06   fact that it starts on that ago i'm [TS]

00:02:07   proud to be an American [TS]

00:02:09   it's it's just a it's very catchy catchy [TS]

00:02:12   tone yeah [TS]

00:02:13   it is the day's cachito yeah but that's [TS]

00:02:16   how I am I'm that's I'm that proud [TS]

00:02:20   oh that's nice yeah yeah i think i am [TS]

00:02:24   too good [TS]

00:02:25   yeah well let's start off this show with [TS]

00:02:29   some American pride did you get tickets [TS]

00:02:31   to the private property lose em coming [TS]

00:02:36   up on four minutes after the hour we're [TS]

00:02:38   going to talk about pride pride pride is [TS]

00:02:41   a it's a front topic it is you know it's [TS]

00:02:44   one of the seven deadly sins is that [TS]

00:02:46   right yeah [TS]

00:02:47   pride goeth before a fall huh [TS]

00:02:51   Oh actually was a technically I think [TS]

00:02:53   it's pride goeth before destruction and [TS]

00:02:55   a haughty spirit before a fall [TS]

00:02:57   is that right yeah i think it's Romans [TS]

00:02:58   uh so why do I have it was just a [TS]

00:03:03   condensation of of that it's sort of [TS]

00:03:05   like a maid the trains run on time type [TS]

00:03:07   situation I think we just trying to [TS]

00:03:10   explain that and every time I try to [TS]

00:03:11   explain that anecdote that you told I I [TS]

00:03:13   don't tell it with the ferocity and [TS]

00:03:15   clarity that you do because it it filled [TS]

00:03:19   me with so much joy it's so great but [TS]

00:03:21   it's like explaining a pun [TS]

00:03:22   yeah it's like going to go see if I said [TS]

00:03:25   you had a beautiful body would you hold [TS]

00:03:29   it against me see it's a double entendre [TS]

00:03:33   yes see that they were actually saying [TS]

00:03:36   that he made the trains run on time [TS]

00:03:38   it's that now we know that way if you [TS]

00:03:41   give me that obviously believe me [TS]

00:03:43   yeah absolutely I I that anecdote made [TS]

00:03:49   me cry when I first heard it and then it [TS]

00:03:52   made me cry when I retold it and it was [TS]

00:03:55   it was one of those things like a like [TS]

00:03:57   you know that you hear something to make [TS]

00:03:58   you cry man here again it makes you [TS]

00:04:00   crying [TS]

00:04:01   there were there were three or four [TS]

00:04:04   three or four times that I told that [TS]

00:04:07   story a where it made me cry before I [TS]

00:04:10   finally like got right when we got like [TS]

00:04:13   tempered two questions first of all we [TS]

00:04:17   were crying in different ways and second [TS]

00:04:19   is your daughter there no now was I [TS]

00:04:23   crying in different ways no my [TS]

00:04:24   daughter's you can take the first [TS]

00:04:25   question first [TS]

00:04:26   was I crying in different ways yes I [TS]

00:04:29   mean I was crying with like i was i was [TS]

00:04:33   crying tears of joy at the ludicrous [TS]

00:04:37   business of of humanity [TS]

00:04:42   I mean it just seemed like it was an [TS]

00:04:43   anecdote that made me that just that [TS]

00:04:46   just said so much it's spelled so much [TS]

00:04:49   it's in line with that the reason i [TS]

00:04:51   think one reason to keep conflating our [TS]

00:04:52   getting it wrong in thinking it was [TS]

00:04:53   Stalin is it's very much in line with [TS]

00:04:55   that classic black russian sense of [TS]

00:04:59   humor [TS]

00:05:00   yeah you know what I mean we talked we [TS]

00:05:02   talked about this but there it's so in [TS]

00:05:03   line with that it's like it's such a [TS]

00:05:04   perfect instance of that kind of black [TS]

00:05:06   humor [TS]

00:05:07   yeah then and and yet I and I don't know [TS]

00:05:11   it just makes so much sense it so it's [TS]

00:05:14   so hilarious [TS]

00:05:15   I i am i've been out of coffee [TS]

00:05:20   Oh to get out of coffee [TS]

00:05:24   well see this is the thing I don't worry [TS]

00:05:26   my toilet paper on amazon prime [TS]

00:05:28   ok I wait that's not i'm sorry that [TS]

00:05:31   sounded like it don't take the hit you [TS]

00:05:33   know that's what I can get your attitude [TS]

00:05:35   copy but surely look at me she was a big [TS]

00:05:39   ok something like the logicians might [TS]

00:05:42   call that a non sequitur but what if you [TS]

00:05:44   know just a little dislocated [TS]

00:05:46   no I where I had to go to the bathroom I [TS]

00:05:49   go I don't shop very well or often and I [TS]

00:05:55   don't here's the thing [TS]

00:05:57   Oh generally i get my coffee for free [TS]

00:06:01   because it's in a swag bags [TS]

00:06:07   oh yeah right right like anymore if i go [TS]

00:06:10   to an event there they give you a pound [TS]

00:06:13   of coffee and a pair of like cheap [TS]

00:06:17   sunglasses and whatever it is indeed a [TS]

00:06:20   USB Drive ever John I I i have a few of [TS]

00:06:25   them hanging on the doorknob right in [TS]

00:06:27   in view of where I'm sitting I can see [TS]

00:06:28   like four USB drives hanging on lanyards [TS]

00:06:32   but yeah pound copy is typically the [TS]

00:06:35   gift that you give someone that you're [TS]

00:06:38   not paying very well that if they come [TS]

00:06:41   to to be part of your presentation and [TS]

00:06:44   so I usually wait around until I'm [TS]

00:06:48   invited to something like that I get my [TS]

00:06:51   pound of coffee and then there's always [TS]

00:06:54   another pound of coffee laying around [TS]

00:06:56   that somebody didn't want that at the [TS]

00:06:58   end of the at the end of the event when [TS]

00:07:00   I'm the last person to leave the [TS]

00:07:01   dressing room like numbers that pound of [TS]

00:07:04   coffee right and then somebody typically [TS]

00:07:07   there are a couple of things that were [TS]

00:07:08   they give you a pound of coffee and a [TS]

00:07:10   bottle of wine and I usually stand in [TS]

00:07:14   the middle of the room at events like [TS]

00:07:15   that and I say trade my bottle of wine [TS]

00:07:17   for a pound of coffee LOL sounds all [TS]

00:07:20   trading places everybody yeah i'll tap [TS]

00:07:23   tonight so somebody's like what what [TS]

00:07:25   and so so I'll typically come home from [TS]

00:07:28   an event like that with with the with [TS]

00:07:30   the patio but you know bag of coffee [TS]

00:07:32   like a I'm sorry a bag of bags of coffee [TS]

00:07:36   and that will you know part of me along [TS]

00:07:39   until the next event so but I had run [TS]

00:07:41   out so this could also be a lot of the [TS]

00:07:44   bellwether that maybe you should do more [TS]

00:07:46   events exactly right i was thinking that [TS]

00:07:48   same thing like wait a minute i haven't [TS]

00:07:50   been to Portland in a month and a half [TS]

00:07:52   and then portland is famous for this [TS]

00:07:55   movie i'll give you up a pound of coffee [TS]

00:07:57   you know just for showing up a bridal [TS]

00:08:02   shower huh [TS]

00:08:03   no I've never been to a bridal shower [TS]

00:08:06   i'm not invited to this but anyway so go [TS]

00:08:08   ahead you're about to say something [TS]

00:08:10   no I just did coffees one of those [TS]

00:08:11   things that I really trying not to run [TS]

00:08:16   out of ya is one of those things like I [TS]

00:08:18   mean the obvious once you get your [TS]

00:08:19   toilet paper and paper towels and your [TS]

00:08:21   whatnots or your you know milk for the [TS]

00:08:23   kid that I i usually have one in the [TS]

00:08:25   chamber you don't want to run out of [TS]

00:08:27   what not especially you heard that [TS]

00:08:29   phrase three is 22 is one and one is [TS]

00:08:30   none [TS]

00:08:31   it seems like it's sort of good [TS]

00:08:35   schenectady to the phrase one boy can do [TS]

00:08:39   the work of one boy two boys can do the [TS]

00:08:41   work of half a boy and three boys do no [TS]

00:08:44   work at all [TS]

00:08:44   that's terrific mmm that's so good i got [TS]

00:08:48   some grandfather shit right now i think [TS]

00:08:49   that the phrase that I was citing is I [TS]

00:08:52   think it comes from the world of [TS]

00:08:54   material like you know you're the what [TS]

00:08:58   is it sergeant sale or whatever like you [TS]

00:09:00   you're that you're the supply person [TS]

00:09:01   sure and I learned about it you're [TS]

00:09:03   serian yeah right yes Aaron I learned [TS]

00:09:06   about it from the Pakistan videographer [TS]

00:09:08   cgpgrey whose videos I think you've seen [TS]

00:09:11   and and he says that when you have [TS]

00:09:14   important things in your life that it's [TS]

00:09:17   an excellent principal and something's [TS]

00:09:19   really it's really stuck in my head [TS]

00:09:20   because that the idea being that too is [TS]

00:09:22   11 0 and 0 is negative 1 right [TS]

00:09:25   yeah 322 is one is none and if you think [TS]

00:09:28   about it in terms of let's say you've [TS]

00:09:30   got you've got deployed like you got a [TS]

00:09:31   base somewhere and if you have the [TS]

00:09:34   moonbase well I could be yeah sure you [TS]

00:09:37   more than ever more than ever in that [TS]

00:09:38   case but let's say you've got I don't [TS]

00:09:40   know arbitrary let's see about three [TS]

00:09:41   generators that are available to like [TS]

00:09:45   run the unit need this one generator [TS]

00:09:47   well you have to basically act like that [TS]

00:09:48   one generator is broken because it once [TS]

00:09:52   it's broken you really only you won't [TS]

00:09:53   have three anymore you have to you have [TS]

00:09:55   to ensure this gets dead so to get to [TS]

00:09:57   the bottom of the stack it to one is [TS]

00:09:58   none which means that once you have one [TS]

00:10:00   bag of coffee left you essentially have [TS]

00:10:01   no coffee left sure you're screwed well [TS]

00:10:03   just from a supply standpoint I is it [TS]

00:10:05   you know it's sticky saying I like yours [TS]

00:10:07   too about the boys that's good [TS]

00:10:09   well this is what this is why i always [TS]

00:10:11   think uh I always think in increments of [TS]

00:10:13   four million dollars interesting because [TS]

00:10:17   if you had four million dollars and this [TS]

00:10:20   applies to four hundred dollars but I [TS]

00:10:22   like to think of it in terms of four [TS]

00:10:24   million dollars because my daydream who [TS]

00:10:26   write yeah but you have four million [TS]

00:10:29   dollars you put two million dollars [TS]

00:10:31   immediately somewhere that you can't get [TS]

00:10:33   it he put it [TS]

00:10:35   somebody put into bonds or you put it [TS]

00:10:37   give to barry bonds he you do something [TS]

00:10:40   with two million of it half of it where [TS]

00:10:43   it immediately goes away [TS]

00:10:44   into some special place where you [TS]

00:10:47   stopped but mostly in a special [TS]

00:10:49   unattainable money whole unattainable [TS]

00:10:51   money hole but but in particular you do [TS]

00:10:53   that only so that you stop thinking [TS]

00:10:55   about it as belonging to you to my [TS]

00:10:58   daughters gone so now you have two [TS]

00:11:00   million dollars ok so now forced to for [TS]

00:11:03   us to exactly and then with the two [TS]

00:11:05   million dollars then you divide the 2 [TS]

00:11:07   million dollars so that 1 million [TS]

00:11:09   dollars is in it you still think of it [TS]

00:11:12   as belonging to you as being like [TS]

00:11:14   accessible money but it's in it very [TS]

00:11:16   difficult to play it's like in savings [TS]

00:11:20   its deeper there's little deeper levels [TS]

00:11:23   you put a million dollars into like deep [TS]

00:11:25   freeze it's not all the way into I don't [TS]

00:11:27   miss any more in your mind but it's in [TS]

00:11:29   free floors 22 is 12 as one and now [TS]

00:11:33   within one then you start having you [TS]

00:11:37   know then you start having the one and [TS]

00:11:39   into i guess i would put it into thirds [TS]

00:11:43   right one-third is what you're living on [TS]

00:11:46   one third is your money and one-third is [TS]

00:11:51   your money that you are thinking about [TS]

00:11:54   what i'm going to do with this money and [TS]

00:11:58   then one third of that you find a way to [TS]

00:12:00   give it away [TS]

00:12:00   wow you should write an e-book is that [TS]

00:12:04   does that is that ebook level of of like [TS]

00:12:08   think think technology is just my [TS]

00:12:10   opinion [TS]

00:12:11   I'll tell you why because it's not an [TS]

00:12:13   idea that really needs like a 300-page [TS]

00:12:15   book or like a whole like blu-ray like [TS]

00:12:18   that is it's a larger than pamphlet [TS]

00:12:20   sized idea it's a family fun pop it's a [TS]

00:12:22   pamphlet sized idea but the [TS]

00:12:24   implementation of that idea is like [TS]

00:12:26   really that's where the texture is and [TS]

00:12:28   and but you wouldn't necessarily put on [TS]

00:12:29   something to Waldenbooks because i don't [TS]

00:12:31   think they have all the books anymore i [TS]

00:12:33   don't suppose we're going to sell your [TS]

00:12:34   gold where those Christopher Walken [TS]

00:12:36   walking accept that this is it gets [TS]

00:12:40   guide has been on my ass or did they [TS]

00:12:43   only sell throw not anything that's [TS]

00:12:47   hardly a courtesy lab Maya [TS]

00:12:51   but ah so I my mom a frequent character [TS]

00:12:57   on this podcast my mom said you're out [TS]

00:13:01   of coffee [TS]

00:13:01   she came by the house you're out of [TS]

00:13:04   coffee she said yeah I know she said [TS]

00:13:06   bartels which is our locally owned [TS]

00:13:11   drugstore chain here [TS]

00:13:12   yeah she said bartels has a sale on [TS]

00:13:15   coffee [TS]

00:13:18   it's like 499 a pound for a brand of [TS]

00:13:23   coffee that's pretty darn good [TS]

00:13:24   that's pretty good and I was like whoa [TS]

00:13:27   that's pretty good and she said you want [TS]

00:13:28   me to get you something I said yeah she [TS]

00:13:30   said well I can't go to my bar towels [TS]

00:13:32   because i already got i already use the [TS]

00:13:35   coupon I OIC she got to wear a fake [TS]

00:13:38   mustache or something yeah that's right [TS]

00:13:40   they all know me there but i can find [TS]

00:13:43   another coupon and go to go to a [TS]

00:13:44   different bar tells its it's starting to [TS]

00:13:46   sound like a like a little bit of a [TS]

00:13:48   george costanza move now uh huh [TS]

00:13:52   she's gonna go to a different bar tells [TS]

00:13:53   and and get me get me some you know get [TS]

00:13:56   max out the coupon for four pounds of [TS]

00:13:59   coffee this is the folgers no no its [TS]

00:14:01   like a this is a this is the tight [TS]

00:14:04   this is beans to bag of beans out of 10 [TS]

00:14:08   that's it that's a very good deal where [TS]

00:14:10   your deal and it's you know and it's a [TS]

00:14:12   brand you recognize but they're not [TS]

00:14:13   advertising on our podcast so why would [TS]

00:14:15   I give them or a light totally agree [TS]

00:14:17   you know what i mean i'd say that you [TS]

00:14:18   know what you mean do you remember a [TS]

00:14:20   time when people were taping over the [TS]

00:14:23   name taping over the word fender on [TS]

00:14:25   their stratocaster because they because [TS]

00:14:28   they didn't want to be didn't want to [TS]

00:14:32   advertise yea yea or their amps and you [TS]

00:14:36   see you still see it in TV shows a lot [TS]

00:14:38   we're in order to show reality you want [TS]

00:14:41   to show everybody using either an apple [TS]

00:14:43   or Adele usually guess what people use [TS]

00:14:46   for laptops but an apple laptop is very [TS]

00:14:48   distinctive not least because it has a [TS]

00:14:50   large apple on it and so you'll see [TS]

00:14:52   people putting putting stickers and [TS]

00:14:53   whatnot on there i mean i've been asked [TS]

00:14:55   to cover my apple on a video on video [TS]

00:14:57   things yes I've definitely been told to [TS]

00:14:59   turn my water bottle in my hand during a [TS]

00:15:03   photoshoot [TS]

00:15:04   oh so they don't see that you're an [TS]

00:15:06   Aquafina man not a dishonest man that's [TS]

00:15:08   right well you can tell him out of the [TS]

00:15:09   Sami man just by looking at I want to [TS]

00:15:11   circle back to that because I got some I [TS]

00:15:12   got some updated thoughts on dasani ok [TS]

00:15:14   but the world isn't so so let's see 3321 [TS]

00:15:18   coffee mom's gonna go to bartells she's [TS]

00:15:20   going to scare up another coupon right [TS]

00:15:22   and it [TS]

00:15:23   mm well so wait I jumped ahead i'm sorry [TS]

00:15:26   ok let's let's let's go back we don't [TS]

00:15:28   know if mom has done that or not [TS]

00:15:30   ok it in the timeline of the stylet it [TS]

00:15:32   out then i go to a wedding i went to a [TS]

00:15:36   wedding this weekend where every person [TS]

00:15:39   at the wedding [TS]

00:15:40   waiting for them at the dinner table was [TS]

00:15:43   a coffee mug with the with the emblem of [TS]

00:15:46   the wedding party has its own kind [TS]

00:15:49   little mark wedding party had their own [TS]

00:15:51   brand or their own watermark who and [TS]

00:15:56   it's on the coffee mug is delightful [TS]

00:15:58   little thing and then within the coffee [TS]

00:16:00   mug kind of set in the in the mug at a [TS]

00:16:03   jaunty angle is a pound of coffee [TS]

00:16:05   nice a pound of good coffee mm when I [TS]

00:16:09   walk thing its wedding coffee so I walk [TS]

00:16:11   in there's 200 people at this dinner and [TS]

00:16:13   I survey the room and I'm like they're [TS]

00:16:15   200 coffee mugs and 200 pounds of coffee [TS]

00:16:18   in this room and I know for a fact and [TS]

00:16:21   I'm one of the groomsmen [TS]

00:16:23   oh my gosh so I'm there early and I know [TS]

00:16:25   I'm going to be there late and I know [TS]

00:16:27   there's going to be some rogue coffee [TS]

00:16:30   bag you know people are going to you [TS]

00:16:32   John you know how this works first of [TS]

00:16:33   all you're in a position of extreme [TS]

00:16:35   privilege and in a good way you should [TS]

00:16:37   be allowed i think is in the Magna Carta [TS]

00:16:38   I think you're allowed to go up and [TS]

00:16:40   basically get people's coffee [TS]

00:16:41   here's the other thing a lot of people [TS]

00:16:43   are going to some drinks they're going [TS]

00:16:44   to take off the shoes to get a dance and [TS]

00:16:46   they're going to leave without [TS]

00:16:48   remembering to take the coffee [TS]

00:16:49   that's right and you just you just sit [TS]

00:16:52   there like a crow on a wire just waiting [TS]

00:16:53   and watching watching wing it's three [TS]

00:16:56   o'clock in the afternoon and i'm already [TS]

00:16:58   planning for 145 in the morning and I'm [TS]

00:17:01   marking the people in my head who are [TS]

00:17:04   going to get carried out of that wedding [TS]

00:17:05   reception on a gurney and I would like [TS]

00:17:09   wading into who i don't want to forget [TS]

00:17:11   my local market my coffee nothing i can [TS]

00:17:13   do that [TS]

00:17:14   no they're not they're going to be like [TS]

00:17:15   well [TS]

00:17:16   Colin uber and I mean 17 that the same [TS]

00:17:19   arena [TS]

00:17:19   somebody cut the total that's the point [TS]

00:17:21   out i'm gonna swoop down and and so I [TS]

00:17:28   walked out of that wedding at an end up [TS]

00:17:29   at a certain point the the reception is [TS]

00:17:32   coming to a close and the staff the [TS]

00:17:35   people who are going to tear this this [TS]

00:17:38   party down who are swooping in and [TS]

00:17:41   they're starting to clean up and they're [TS]

00:17:43   sweeping up the debris and they're taken [TS]

00:17:45   together they got they got out what we [TS]

00:17:47   call that when you are you strike the [TS]

00:17:48   set [TS]

00:17:49   they got to get ready for the Abramowitz [TS]

00:17:51   but Mitzvah that's exactly right that's [TS]

00:17:52   happening tomorrow morning huh well no [TS]

00:17:55   tomorrow morning there's a there's like [TS]

00:17:57   a flower show [TS]

00:17:58   ok then the bottom it's what happens in [TS]

00:18:00   the afternoon but they're swooping in [TS]

00:18:03   there they're striking the set and I'm [TS]

00:18:05   saying kind of in the kind of been [TS]

00:18:08   through the the four is 22 is 11 is none [TS]

00:18:12   yeah one is one-third I'm saying you [TS]

00:18:16   know I've gotta tie the sum of this copy [TS]

00:18:18   to these people because I'm looking [TS]

00:18:20   around there's probably there's probably [TS]

00:18:22   nine unattended how you know you're at [TS]

00:18:26   the point where having the one and your [TS]

00:18:28   figure out how do I spread the wealth [TS]

00:18:29   that's right that a nice John [TS]

00:18:31   these guys are you cleaning up the clean [TS]

00:18:34   up the place and you know and they're [TS]

00:18:36   kind of looking around like this coffee [TS]

00:18:38   just gonna the phrase you would use in [TS]

00:18:42   the cavities is for anyone that's right [TS]

00:18:44   this for anyone is this is this gonna [TS]

00:18:47   get bend or is this gonna find its way [TS]

00:18:50   into my messenger bag and so you know I [TS]

00:18:53   again as you say i have the authority i [TS]

00:18:55   have the privilege of being one of the [TS]

00:18:56   people in a pink tie if you will [TS]

00:18:59   who so I swooped in i swoop across the [TS]

00:19:03   room I survey the room and I'm like that [TS]

00:19:05   one that one that one that so anyway I [TS]

00:19:07   come home with six pounds of coffee [TS]

00:19:10   jiminy Christmas good quality copy and i [TS]

00:19:13   arrived home to find there are four [TS]

00:19:16   pounds of coffee in my refrigerator that [TS]

00:19:19   my mom bought with a coupon [TS]

00:19:21   oh my gosh that is so nice [TS]

00:19:22   step but now i have 10 pounds of coffee [TS]

00:19:27   which witch too many I I don't want to [TS]

00:19:32   introduce triangulation here but are you [TS]

00:19:34   i'm guessing you're recording from home [TS]

00:19:35   today [TS]

00:19:37   oh uh no I don't like asking terms of [TS]

00:19:41   the the coffee situation [TS]

00:19:43   oh yes that's right ok so you have [TS]

00:19:45   access to coffee now have access to [TS]

00:19:47   coffee and I'm and I'm feeling pretty [TS]

00:19:49   good caffeinated ok but I'm but I'm [TS]

00:19:52   concerned I'm concerned about my [TS]

00:19:55   well-being because now I have too much [TS]

00:19:56   coffee and I'm concerned about the [TS]

00:19:58   coffee's well-being because i don't know [TS]

00:20:00   if i have the I don't know if I have the [TS]

00:20:02   facilities to maintain 10 pounds of [TS]

00:20:06   coffee in a in a in a min estate ready [TS]

00:20:09   now right [TS]

00:20:11   like I feel like I should put five [TS]

00:20:13   pounds in a place where I don't even [TS]

00:20:15   think I have it I got it I got it [TS]

00:20:17   where is that where the copy isn't going [TS]

00:20:19   to be isn't going to be kind of is going [TS]

00:20:23   to spoil it something some way that's [TS]

00:20:25   the kind of thing that makes me wish I [TS]

00:20:27   lived in like a rich people suburb and [TS]

00:20:29   had like a second refrigerator and a [TS]

00:20:30   deep freeze and all that kind of stuff [TS]

00:20:32   because that's kind of like your [TS]

00:20:33   unattainable money hole in some ways not [TS]

00:20:35   precisely but you know another thing [TS]

00:20:36   they say out of sight out of mind right [TS]

00:20:38   and also to really let's be honest a lot [TS]

00:20:40   like cats wanting to see i'd like to [TS]

00:20:41   have a look at for companionship [TS]

00:20:43   it's nothing got 12 cats right so I mean [TS]

00:20:46   that's not good for you or the cats and [TS]

00:20:47   in this case the coffee's can be saying [TS]

00:20:48   what was going on with me [TS]

00:20:50   speaking of cat yeah I noticed that the [TS]

00:20:53   latest update of the iOS is Sierra uh [TS]

00:20:57   yes that's correct [TS]

00:20:59   do they run out of cats the they chose [TS]

00:21:03   to do a pivot from big cats two [TS]

00:21:06   locations in California and there's a [TS]

00:21:08   there's a kind of a subtle way the date [TS]

00:21:12   Telegraph how important or big the [TS]

00:21:15   change in the release is by for example [TS]

00:21:18   like you somebody is a big deal and then [TS]

00:21:20   el capitan is a smaller deal because [TS]

00:21:22   that's just a place in Yosemite who [TS]

00:21:24   knows how far they're gonna go i miss [TS]

00:21:25   the cats so I've always enjoyed the cats [TS]

00:21:27   so do you think there's going to be like [TS]

00:21:28   an iOS Compton em on iOS launch [TS]

00:21:33   that's iOS but no I don't think they [TS]

00:21:37   would I think they're sticking with the [TS]

00:21:38   numbers but it can be very very [TS]

00:21:39   confusing and then this also extends to [TS]

00:21:41   their the different models of a computer [TS]

00:21:43   of things because that those get [TS]

00:21:45   confusing names too and so a lot of the [TS]

00:21:47   human cry right now Isabella oh my gosh [TS]

00:21:49   what's gonna happen what they can [TS]

00:21:51   announce on thursday is going to be a [TS]

00:21:53   macbook is going to be a macbook air is [TS]

00:21:55   there going to be a macbook pro or [TS]

00:21:57   they're going to be the features of what [TS]

00:21:58   we used to call a macbook air in [TS]

00:22:00   something that's no longer called a [TS]

00:22:01   macbook air [TS]

00:22:02   this is some people have podcast about [TS]

00:22:04   why are you all humans didn't talk about [TS]

00:22:07   that today you mean well the thing is [TS]

00:22:10   it's important that i talk about these [TS]

00:22:11   things with you because I keep telling [TS]

00:22:13   people when they say what you do for a [TS]

00:22:15   living again [TS]

00:22:15   yeah I say I'm kind of I'm kind of in [TS]

00:22:20   the text fear and they may tilt their [TS]

00:22:24   heads quizzically and their spouse does [TS]

00:22:27   to like like a dog that just harmonica [TS]

00:22:29   and it's a go [TS]

00:22:34   I'm kind of disruptive within the [TS]

00:22:36   texture [TS]

00:22:37   oh and then make up their heads the [TS]

00:22:40   other one go [TS]

00:22:41   mmm only Nixon could go to China that's [TS]

00:22:44   right and so periodically I think it's [TS]

00:22:47   important that i talk about text oh [TS]

00:22:49   that's that's a terrific idea [TS]

00:22:50   yeah because it it repositions me [TS]

00:22:54   centrally in the disruptive a quadrant [TS]

00:22:58   of the texts fear right is every spirit [TS]

00:23:02   is divided into quadrants that's right [TS]

00:23:04   every sphere has quadrants and over here [TS]

00:23:05   you got a normative quadrant you're not [TS]

00:23:07   interested in that there's no future in [TS]

00:23:08   the normative quadrant new you want to [TS]

00:23:11   be another disruptive cause a dominant [TS]

00:23:13   quadrant and then there's the what was a [TS]

00:23:19   missive no I don't think submissive I [TS]

00:23:21   think it would be a subversive oh I see [TS]

00:23:25   you say you're going to the dominant [TS]

00:23:28   quadra subvert the dominant quadrant of [TS]

00:23:30   the sphere right [TS]

00:23:32   ok so that's where I like to locate [TS]

00:23:35   myself for being located i don't know if [TS]

00:23:38   you can locate yourself [TS]

00:23:39   I think you can I think you need to be [TS]

00:23:41   located [TS]

00:23:42   bye-bye others by the culture by the [TS]

00:23:47   conventional wisdom and in order to do [TS]

00:23:49   that you have to maintain a foot in the [TS]

00:23:52   in the selected quadrant okay you know [TS]

00:23:54   what no I'm gonna allow it i'll tell you [TS]

00:23:56   this I'll tell you one thing i don't [TS]

00:23:57   like about about Bill Clinton was that [TS]

00:23:59   he introduced the word grow as far as i [TS]

00:24:02   know into the parlance as a transitive [TS]

00:24:04   verb i do not like when people use grow [TS]

00:24:06   as a transitive verb I don't think [TS]

00:24:08   detect you don't want to grow our [TS]

00:24:10   quadrant to see I think that's going to [TS]

00:24:12   be happening in the in the [TS]

00:24:13   counter-revolutionary non-dominant hand [TS]

00:24:15   of the public of the severe well I think [TS]

00:24:18   what we're doing here fires didn't [TS]

00:24:20   correct me if I'm wrong but if you want [TS]

00:24:21   to use locate as a reflexive verb to [TS]

00:24:26   talk about where you decide to see how [TS]

00:24:29   about this how about you situate [TS]

00:24:30   yourself i'm pretty sure all to sarah [TS]

00:24:33   said you can situate you can situate [TS]

00:24:35   others and I imagine with a little bit [TS]

00:24:37   of effort you can situate yourself i [TS]

00:24:39   think i'd ride to such I think we I try [TS]

00:24:42   to situate myself within your and my [TS]

00:24:44   context so then it's like a Zen sphere a [TS]

00:24:49   sense their spirits fears upon spirits [TS]

00:24:51   fears all the way down huh [TS]

00:24:53   I tried to be nice try to situate myself [TS]

00:24:56   with you within our text within our [TS]

00:24:58   sphere which is within the text fear [TS]

00:25:01   okay okay I think I got it I'm situating [TS]

00:25:03   myself with you as the disrupt or [TS]

00:25:08   but i am but i think that that that it's [TS]

00:25:15   not capable [TS]

00:25:16   I'm not capable of well for instance I [TS]

00:25:18   don't think you can say about yourself [TS]

00:25:21   that you're woke oh yeah it's like [TS]

00:25:24   calling your own verse poetry [TS]

00:25:26   yeah i think only someone else only a [TS]

00:25:29   stakeholder can describe you as woke you [TS]

00:25:33   i know another one thought leader [TS]

00:25:36   oh you're not allowed to call yourself a [TS]

00:25:38   thought later somebody else calls you a [TS]

00:25:40   thought leader you can punch him in the [TS]

00:25:41   nose but but i think if you call [TS]

00:25:43   yourself a thought leader you can have a [TS]

00:25:44   heater problems and let's be honest just [TS]

00:25:46   because you have one bag of coffee two [TS]

00:25:48   bags of coffees three coffees bags that [TS]

00:25:51   doesn't mean you can also have a larger [TS]

00:25:53   bag in which to situate those coffees [TS]

00:25:55   these are the weddings or speak speaking [TS]

00:25:58   events now if you are Steve Aoki can you [TS]

00:26:00   call yourself a thought leader Steve a [TS]

00:26:03   key is he the guy in fargo i think use [TS]

00:26:09   isn't here in electro house musician [TS]

00:26:13   yeah I don't mean like you I don't use [TS]

00:26:16   it like a musician in houses were [TS]

00:26:18   nothing like he's an electrician he [TS]

00:26:21   might be an electrician like an [TS]

00:26:23   electrical engineer i'm thinking of the [TS]

00:26:25   guy that Frances McDormand goes to visit [TS]

00:26:27   in in the Twin Cities I thought that I [TS]

00:26:32   steve aoki like who's like weirdly [TS]

00:26:35   really creepily one sort of cheat on her [TS]

00:26:38   husband that's a really good movie that [TS]

00:26:40   is a nice me like that movie i do that's [TS]

00:26:42   a fine fine movie [TS]

00:26:44   oh boy like that movie line i like those [TS]

00:26:46   guys that make those movies becomes I [TS]

00:26:49   like those guys today there one of those [TS]

00:26:51   one of that they're they're the kind of [TS]

00:26:54   artists were like regardless of how i [TS]

00:26:55   feel about every single thing that they [TS]

00:26:57   make [TS]

00:26:58   I always will be attracted to their [TS]

00:27:01   point of view [TS]

00:27:03   yeah you know I didn't make it even all [TS]

00:27:05   the way through health Caesar that's [TS]

00:27:06   okay it happens I'm I try again but yet [TS]

00:27:09   really that's that's my daughter really [TS]

00:27:11   wants to watch it because it's really [TS]

00:27:12   funny yeah it with the trailer looks [TS]

00:27:14   funny but we're but that was that it was [TS]

00:27:16   like not funny it was it was it was hard [TS]

00:27:19   to watch because it was [TS]

00:27:21   because they they land so many punches [TS]

00:27:24   normally throughout their career they [TS]

00:27:26   have and this was just a swish that [TS]

00:27:29   everybody in it and frankly I honestly [TS]

00:27:32   this is hard for me this is really hard [TS]

00:27:34   for me to say okay say slowly not so [TS]

00:27:41   sure about Clooney not so sure about [TS]

00:27:46   Clooney yeah yeah I don't like to say it [TS]

00:27:51   yeah I don't like to ruminate on that [TS]

00:27:53   one because I'm pretty easy kind of the [TS]

00:27:56   Pantheon for me I before me too i'm kind [TS]

00:27:59   of pro Clooney I go I look out into the [TS]

00:28:01   world and I go Clooney right if there [TS]

00:28:04   was a knock on the door I opened the [TS]

00:28:06   door and there were two people standing [TS]

00:28:09   there and dark sunglasses in black suits [TS]

00:28:11   uh-huh and they said Clooney I'd say [TS]

00:28:15   Clooney yeah right you're not gonna stay [TS]

00:28:18   and see like no and I feel like I feel [TS]

00:28:21   like you know a barring any information [TS]

00:28:23   to the contrary my god is that he's a [TS]

00:28:26   he's a good guy a good guy right i feel [TS]

00:28:29   that same way about pit innovative these [TS]

00:28:31   two guys at the door like Clooney and [TS]

00:28:32   Pitt Clooney and poke [TS]

00:28:34   I was I'd say yeah they do my taxes yeah [TS]

00:28:36   like I i love cleaning but there are [TS]

00:28:40   there are there's I think ample evidence [TS]

00:28:42   to say about pit at least there's ample [TS]

00:28:46   evidence where you could be any one of [TS]

00:28:48   them but hmm yeah really i just i always [TS]

00:28:53   felt like that charm that smile [TS]

00:28:56   he's gonna get away with it there's [TS]

00:28:59   something a friend of mine likes to say [TS]

00:29:00   about why i'm not on a lot of his [TS]

00:29:01   podcast which is that he likes to deploy [TS]

00:29:03   me tactically which i think is a very [TS]

00:29:06   nice way of saying he just doesn't want [TS]

00:29:07   too much of me on it shows which i think [TS]

00:29:09   is an entirely reasonable point of view [TS]

00:29:10   it is what you're saying here that maybe [TS]

00:29:12   cleaning is something we should deploy [TS]

00:29:13   tactically what I'm saying is Clooney as [TS]

00:29:17   a comedic actor I feel like that's the [TS]

00:29:22   leap that we have that we that we are [TS]

00:29:24   making one reflectively and we need to [TS]

00:29:27   stop we need to take a step back at ya [TS]

00:29:30   Clooney's very charming he's wonderful [TS]

00:29:33   he's handsome [TS]

00:29:34   is he truly a comedic actor oh brother [TS]

00:29:37   where art out [TS]

00:29:38   well this is what I'm saying oh brother [TS]

00:29:41   where art down is a very very [TS]

00:29:43   interesting film that will get a lot of [TS]

00:29:46   people love it's sort of like Moonrise [TS]

00:29:48   Kingdom no doubt very good or i would [TS]

00:29:52   even say steve zissou it's one of those [TS]

00:29:54   like if you don't like the general Wes [TS]

00:29:57   Anderson deal don't start with steve [TS]

00:29:59   zissou but I feel like Moonrise Kingdom [TS]

00:30:02   is one of the films where a where like a [TS]

00:30:08   fans of the director can differ there is [TS]

00:30:15   a lot I don't think that's the [TS]

00:30:16   apotheosis of what wes anderson is [TS]

00:30:19   capable of right now I mean people who [TS]

00:30:22   are fans are like this is this is the [TS]

00:30:24   one right and then there are others like [TS]

00:30:29   me who feel like no that is not true [TS]

00:30:34   that is not this is it's not it's not [TS]

00:30:38   the nadir either but it's like I have I [TS]

00:30:41   have strong criticisms of that film ever [TS]

00:30:43   and oh brother where art thou [TS]

00:30:45   I feel is very similar in the sense that [TS]

00:30:48   at the center of the movie is an act or [TS]

00:30:52   that does not belong there [TS]

00:30:55   uh-huh ate a little bit like CII more of [TS]

00:30:59   those weirdos that I like the the Great [TS]

00:31:01   Khan brothers movies that everybody [TS]

00:31:03   likes and I also i really-really jail [TS]

00:31:05   enjoy some of the slider films like I i [TS]

00:31:08   really like the hudsucker proxy a lot [TS]

00:31:10   and some people removing some people [TS]

00:31:12   really don't like that movie and I think [TS]

00:31:14   it's wonderful but in that case is it [TS]

00:31:17   just is it is it a little bit too coen [TS]

00:31:20   brothers and that's not helped by the [TS]

00:31:21   clooney what about later type of years [TS]

00:31:23   Ladykillers you got Tom Hanks with a [TS]

00:31:24   stutter I feel like I feel like Clooney [TS]

00:31:29   is clown and Clooney is clowning clooney [TS]

00:31:32   is clown in that movie he is Hammond [TS]

00:31:35   Hammond it up and the thing about the [TS]

00:31:37   Coen brothers is that everybody's hand [TS]

00:31:40   all the time in all their movies but [TS]

00:31:42   they're not smirking they're showing [TS]

00:31:47   John Goodman it's like swinging from the [TS]

00:31:49   rafters but he's committed he's [TS]

00:31:51   committed [TS]

00:31:52   yes John Goodman is really happening but [TS]

00:31:55   he's not clownin you believe it [TS]

00:31:59   uh-huh and you look throughout all the [TS]

00:32:01   Coen brothers movies who are the who's [TS]

00:32:04   clowning and it's Clooney's class [TS]

00:32:06   Clooney's clownin yeah so you can see [TS]

00:32:09   all the way through [TS]

00:32:10   oh brother out there which is a great [TS]

00:32:12   film everybody else is like is all the [TS]

00:32:16   way in happening there there there ham [TS]

00:32:21   Virginia ham been having the hand and [TS]

00:32:24   Clooney is riding the hand all i see is [TS]

00:32:28   like slim pickins on the on the the bomb [TS]

00:32:31   you know you don't you don't fly a [TS]

00:32:33   rocket ship you're right it [TS]

00:32:34   that's right that's right and eating [TS]

00:32:36   with Virginia ham you need to be in the [TS]

00:32:39   ham you need to be the ham have it to [TS]

00:32:40   hangout ride that that's right so let's [TS]

00:32:44   go with the ham right you don't have the [TS]

00:32:46   ham ride you in transitively so if be if [TS]

00:32:50   your brother where art thou clooney is [TS]

00:32:52   you know he's playing the role but he's [TS]

00:32:54   right in the ham ya been at OC old [TS]

00:32:57   Caesar or hail caesar right who's not [TS]

00:33:01   even he's just like he's sweating [TS]

00:33:04   through the oldies if you know what I [TS]

00:33:06   see how this yes Jackie kind of fake [TS]

00:33:10   teeth in hail caesar did they do things [TS]

00:33:13   to make his teeth more funny in that I [TS]

00:33:15   find feel like yes although when you [TS]

00:33:19   comment on Hollywood actors teeth i know [TS]

00:33:21   i mean in a like this is obviously fixed [TS]

00:33:25   fake teeth sort of like like Matt and [TS]

00:33:27   Matt Matt Matt Damon uh the kid from the [TS]

00:33:30   eighties movie chillin chillin in that [TS]

00:33:34   one movie with the other guy we have all [TS]

00:33:37   yeah with the girl with the girl would [TS]

00:33:39   be a few minutes in hair [TS]

00:33:41   yeah so like okay and I'm kind of going [TS]

00:33:43   somewhere with this and this is this is [TS]

00:33:44   a large unified field theory that might [TS]

00:33:46   be a ham [TS]

00:33:47   but i'm thinking also think of the movie [TS]

00:33:48   snowpiercer which owes us a lot of [TS]

00:33:51   fucking money arm very good movie but [TS]

00:33:54   till the Swinton she has a character [TS]

00:33:57   with fake teeth she's cloud in the ham [TS]

00:33:59   too [TS]

00:34:00   she's transformed by those 50 she is i [TS]

00:34:03   think i think in many of these instances [TS]

00:34:05   the teeth make people a little Clowney [TS]

00:34:07   yeah and and i think it doesn't always [TS]

00:34:10   work [TS]

00:34:11   I'm gonna you know I'll fight anybody in [TS]

00:34:13   the snowpiercer fight ring you know I [TS]

00:34:16   can [TS]

00:34:18   there were interesting [TS]

00:34:21   snowpiercer is is a series of [TS]

00:34:23   interesting vignettes stitched together [TS]

00:34:26   with the incomprehensible like one page [TS]

00:34:31   the one page of snowpiercer makes no [TS]

00:34:34   sense of the the four three two one on [TS]

00:34:36   that is I feel like the first quarter of [TS]

00:34:38   it is riveting [TS]

00:34:40   yeah the second quarter maybe half of [TS]

00:34:43   that and then by the time you get to the [TS]

00:34:45   end you get to the front you're like oh [TS]

00:34:46   yeah you really had me ask me a little [TS]

00:34:49   bit yeah you lost me here I'm I've been [TS]

00:34:53   wondering that we've talked about this [TS]

00:34:54   quite a bit like how do scripts get made [TS]

00:34:57   in particular howdy shitty scripts get [TS]

00:34:59   all the way to Maine ok I've just been [TS]

00:35:03   recently watching the very popular [TS]

00:35:05   television show strange strange things [TS]

00:35:09   strange strange ways [TS]

00:35:10   stranger things stranger thing to eat a [TS]

00:35:13   new password re-establish my old [TS]

00:35:17   password [TS]

00:35:18   oh that's good for mending fences yeah I [TS]

00:35:22   made a that's right that's right and I i [TS]

00:35:26   watch the show and it was a thing where [TS]

00:35:29   you know at first you're like is this [TS]

00:35:31   just a TV show and then things start [TS]

00:35:34   happening here like this interesting TV [TS]

00:35:36   show and then a little while in I [TS]

00:35:39   started to feel at least like there's [TS]

00:35:42   acting happening here some of what i [TS]

00:35:44   thought was just not very good acting is [TS]

00:35:47   good acting then I got you know a little [TS]

00:35:51   bit like mm that relationship between [TS]

00:35:53   those people is annoying me now [TS]

00:35:55   I feel like if I warriors yeah if I were [TS]

00:35:58   in the writing room I would have I would [TS]

00:36:00   have done that I would have handled that [TS]

00:36:01   a little better put a little bit of [TS]

00:36:02   backspin on that who and then about what [TS]

00:36:06   would you what would you say [TS]

00:36:08   four-fifths of the way through i said [TS]

00:36:10   this had better not be one of those [TS]

00:36:13   shows where the writing falls apart [TS]

00:36:15   four-fifths of the way through the show [TS]

00:36:17   because nobody thought about how to end [TS]

00:36:20   it i remember getting i want to say into [TS]

00:36:22   the penultimate episode and thinking wow [TS]

00:36:25   they have a lot of loose ends to clean [TS]

00:36:29   up in an hour [TS]

00:36:30   that's right and and it felt very much [TS]

00:36:33   like you guys didn't think this all the [TS]

00:36:35   way through and i'm picturing you in the [TS]

00:36:37   writing room and no there's no person in [TS]

00:36:39   the writing room who's sitting back in [TS]

00:36:42   their chair and saying now wait a minute [TS]

00:36:44   what why in the universe of this all [TS]

00:36:49   happening like why or furthermore like [TS]

00:36:54   not just what [TS]

00:36:56   but like that that thing has motivations [TS]

00:36:59   to yeah I know I that that's the most [TS]

00:37:01   interesting kind of story is that bring [TS]

00:37:03   the thing has motivation see it's like [TS]

00:37:05   what you name another just to go to an [TS]

00:37:07   old example alien and aliens like you [TS]

00:37:10   know the particular alien it has things [TS]

00:37:12   that it wants [TS]

00:37:13   mhm sure does a like so many of these so [TS]

00:37:17   many monster movies now that the the [TS]

00:37:22   thing is just a thing [TS]

00:37:23   ya mean Jason had a motivation who [TS]

00:37:27   Michael Myers had motivation who i'm not [TS]

00:37:31   sure about the one with the sweater and [TS]

00:37:34   the little over four sky with the stripe [TS]

00:37:36   sweater [TS]

00:37:37   yeah who came into your dreams and did [TS]

00:37:39   bad things yeah uh what was his [TS]

00:37:42   motivation he was be was dream he was in [TS]

00:37:44   a dream and he's mad i think was a child [TS]

00:37:46   molester who that throwing a furnace who [TS]

00:37:49   I think and then he gets in your dreams [TS]

00:37:52   yeah yeah child molester in first that's [TS]

00:37:55   terrible ah uh-huh [TS]

00:37:59   I know I know I thought will meet i take [TS]

00:38:03   the heat I deserve it but then but then [TS]

00:38:06   that the the stranger things arrived at [TS]

00:38:09   its end and I was relieved of my of my [TS]

00:38:15   relieved of the horror of of having [TS]

00:38:19   spent a season with this and then [TS]

00:38:21   meeting to hate it yeah but like I I get [TS]

00:38:25   it arrived at the end and I went alright [TS]

00:38:28   television you have you you succeed use [TS]

00:38:32   you didn't i'm not sure you stuck the [TS]

00:38:34   landing but you made the landing you [TS]

00:38:36   arch your back put your hands in the air [TS]

00:38:38   now it's up to the judges [TS]

00:38:39   yeah did they stick it yeah now it's up [TS]

00:38:41   to history to judge you i don't feel [TS]

00:38:44   ripped off guiding good question i [TS]

00:38:46   didn't watch lost be ever one time early [TS]

00:38:52   on we were on tour and uh and a very [TS]

00:38:56   delightful band we were opening for a [TS]

00:38:58   for a delightful band and they gave us i [TS]

00:39:01   pod the first ipods that had TV screen [TS]

00:39:08   oh neato yeah those are neat with it was [TS]

00:39:10   that the ipod need oh ok i thought [TS]

00:39:12   needed came with a sock em so we all got [TS]

00:39:15   ipod nose and the other guys in the band [TS]

00:39:19   loaded their ipod nose with things [TS]

00:39:21   immediately and I don't know how they [TS]

00:39:23   did it [TS]

00:39:24   probably online people mover whooping [TS]

00:39:27   all this on their ipod those are four [TS]

00:39:29   things now I kept my yard and then you [TS]

00:39:31   have to use the ethernet cable they did [TS]

00:39:32   somehow we were in Europe I don't even [TS]

00:39:34   know how they did it [TS]

00:39:35   that's a whole different voltage there [TS]

00:39:37   well yeah exactly right you can't even [TS]

00:39:39   play Betamax tapes over multiple pal but [TS]

00:39:42   uh I kept mine in the box probably for a [TS]

00:39:46   year and then my mom a frequent [TS]

00:39:50   character on this podcast LOL she found [TS]

00:39:53   my ipod no in the box and she was like [TS]

00:39:56   what's this nice and it's an i pad pod [TS]

00:39:58   and she said oh my now and then she took [TS]

00:40:02   it and loaded up with stuff she loaded [TS]

00:40:04   up with the history of indie rock to [TS]

00:40:06   create a thick and she's been that was [TS]

00:40:08   pre Creed [TS]

00:40:10   and she's I don't know she used it until [TS]

00:40:12   it caught on fire but anyway one time we [TS]

00:40:14   were driving through Austria or [TS]

00:40:16   something and i was maybe sick and I was [TS]

00:40:20   just mad and Eric course on the bass [TS]

00:40:23   player the long winter said here why [TS]

00:40:24   don't you watch an episode of lost the [TS]

00:40:26   very popular television show who on my [TS]

00:40:29   ipod ipad nido with my papito then and [TS]

00:40:33   the ipad needa yet no i don't know i [TS]

00:40:36   don't have the timeline is very [TS]

00:40:37   confusing to play your sick that was i I [TS]

00:40:39   IX chap I yeah [TS]

00:40:44   carrabelle up eggs the American [TS]

00:40:49   Shorthair so so I got ready stucked is [TS]

00:40:56   that in the car and I watched I tried to [TS]

00:40:59   watch lost on this little teeny phone [TS]

00:41:02   thing in a moving vehicle and I became [TS]

00:41:06   very frustrated with up with every stage [TS]

00:41:10   of the like what is this in [TS]

00:41:12   comprehensible television show it's like [TS]

00:41:14   I'm watching somebody play the video [TS]

00:41:16   game missed who but on a thing that is [TS]

00:41:20   like this the size of a large pack of [TS]

00:41:22   candy cigarettes and this vehicle is [TS]

00:41:25   moving through space and i'm building a [TS]

00:41:26   little car second i was sick already [TS]

00:41:28   with so that not an ideal introduction [TS]

00:41:31   know it was a little bit like a [TS]

00:41:33   clockwork orange introduction my [TS]

00:41:35   eyeballs were pinned back i was taped to [TS]

00:41:37   a chair [TS]

00:41:38   Ludovico technique and I was like I [TS]

00:41:40   don't want to watch this loss and I was [TS]

00:41:42   grateful later when the when there was a [TS]

00:41:44   cataclysmic sigh of disappointment [TS]

00:41:46   throughout the culture i inhabit wearing [TS]

00:41:50   hit or inhibit the closer you get it but [TS]

00:41:54   it makes me which you choose to look at [TS]

00:41:57   yourself [TS]

00:41:58   that's right the culture in which i'm [TS]

00:41:59   located that I choose to inhibit i said [TS]

00:42:02   haha rules i didn't want your dumb show [TS]

00:42:06   because I wait and I wait until the jury [TS]

00:42:09   is in ya and now you all feel like [TS]

00:42:14   you've been hoodwinked like you were [TS]

00:42:15   gasps lighted by some people that didn't [TS]

00:42:19   write the story in advance [TS]

00:42:20   that's not a thing that I don't like to [TS]

00:42:25   watch that thing where the story wasn't [TS]

00:42:26   written in advance i listen to a [TS]

00:42:28   wonderful thing this weekend which was a [TS]

00:42:31   1960 interview studs terkel interviewing [TS]

00:42:35   Buster Keaton in 1962 my god which is [TS]

00:42:39   pretty interesting to think about it [TS]

00:42:40   anyways I'm but she was still kicking [TS]

00:42:42   around at the time he's talking about [TS]

00:42:44   like trying to release his films in [TS]

00:42:46   Europe and but it was a of course that's [TS]

00:42:48   terrible that's who I acted love that [TS]

00:42:50   guy just love his whole deal and there's [TS]

00:42:53   just lots of interesting little tidbits [TS]

00:42:55   and little just really talking about [TS]

00:42:57   anything about his movies or 40 years [TS]

00:42:59   old at that point he was still kicking [TS]

00:43:01   around but they were it was very [TS]

00:43:03   interesting just talking about you know [TS]

00:43:04   how you how you make those movies and [TS]

00:43:06   what went into it one thing he said that [TS]

00:43:07   was so remarkable was that in this [TS]

00:43:09   gravelly voice for her from the secrets [TS]

00:43:12   that would eventually kill him he's like [TS]

00:43:14   yeah we really know what we would do [TS]

00:43:15   this we would always we had to have a [TS]

00:43:17   really a very good start and a fantastic [TS]

00:43:20   ending and then we can fill in the [TS]

00:43:21   middle easily but you gotta know how it [TS]

00:43:23   starts [TS]

00:43:24   and you've got to know how it ends and [TS]

00:43:25   they never used the script which is if [TS]

00:43:27   it is true is amazing because you think [TS]

00:43:29   about you know today like they're a lot [TS]

00:43:31   of people who use you know primarily Mad [TS]

00:43:32   Max famously had storyboards rather than [TS]

00:43:34   like a written script but like whatever [TS]

00:43:37   ambitious idea when I put a different [TS]

00:43:38   time and I I don't have been turning it [TS]

00:43:41   over in my mind like wondering if I [TS]

00:43:43   think that's entirely true [TS]

00:43:45   I assume it is but also think about the [TS]

00:43:47   implications of only really having a [TS]

00:43:50   beginning and an end and then that how [TS]

00:43:52   that governs what you do for the parts [TS]

00:43:53   in the middle I are you familiar with [TS]

00:43:57   the author Maria simple she wrote oh [TS]

00:44:01   she's a blow friend of the guy who we've [TS]

00:44:05   talked about she's a friend of the guy [TS]

00:44:07   who talked about she's she's there isn't [TS]

00:44:09   she the daughter of Lorenzo simple [TS]

00:44:11   junior so we're remembering that's [TS]

00:44:13   correct [TS]

00:44:13   ok Maria Semple yes you talk to you [TS]

00:44:15   talked up talk about her don't tell me [TS]

00:44:17   about Maria Semple well Marie simple is [TS]

00:44:19   a writer she has she has written a [TS]

00:44:22   popular book where'd you go Bernadette [TS]

00:44:25   which was a [TS]

00:44:28   the best she was in the it was in the [TS]

00:44:30   best sellers fear Bernadette and she [TS]

00:44:35   just a friend she is married to George [TS]

00:44:37   my er one of the peaches were just the [TS]

00:44:39   simpsons yes yes yes and was a he was a [TS]

00:44:42   writer he was that I guess head writer [TS]

00:44:44   on the early david letterman show the [TS]

00:44:47   david letterman show that we all do only [TS]

00:44:48   love you when you weren't allowed to do [TS]

00:44:52   anything normal we have guests and hope [TS]

00:44:56   that they're know that we have anybody [TS]

00:44:59   who's ever been on the Carson show nope [TS]

00:45:02   you better you better send the reception [TS]

00:45:04   is from a drug clinic to the bus station [TS]

00:45:07   what are you there you there all the [TS]

00:45:11   high be on TV free peanuts in the world [TS]

00:45:12   are going to fix that would you like a [TS]

00:45:15   hot i'm sorry i love that show anyways [TS]

00:45:21   yeah so sure you duh [TS]

00:45:24   funny funny kind please learn a dead [TS]

00:45:27   what am I thinking of my singing that [TS]

00:45:29   that's a who's that guy there the guy [TS]

00:45:31   from George in the wheelchair passed [TS]

00:45:33   away was that guy's name [TS]

00:45:35   no the one guy plan huh Tony Orlando [TS]

00:45:39   Tony Orlando let's save Tony Orlando [TS]

00:45:43   thinking of thick chest alone just not [TS]

00:45:47   hear the sonic lisburn dad giving away [TS]

00:45:50   the chestnut were with did a long tour [TS]

00:45:52   of europe with the chestnut I that was [TS]

00:45:54   colorful it was extremely colorful and I [TS]

00:45:59   loved and adored him but I felt like [TS]

00:46:01   when he died he and i were estranged [TS]

00:46:04   he's a pretty complicated guy wasn't [TS]

00:46:06   yeah and there was a bet and then lived [TS]

00:46:09   in a world of complicated people [TS]

00:46:11   yeah i surrounded by complicated i saw [TS]

00:46:12   him at some in noe valley from nineteen [TS]

00:46:15   ninety thousand time to show there was [TS]

00:46:17   pretty riveting [TS]

00:46:18   yeah he's a he was great intense [TS]

00:46:20   performer yeah people's freedom with [TS]

00:46:23   lamb chop [TS]

00:46:24   that's right and that was in Matt era [TS]

00:46:26   that was in that that exact error that I [TS]

00:46:29   toward within the lamb chop chop era el [TS]

00:46:32   nido fact we all played a show together [TS]

00:46:35   in [TS]

00:46:36   Barcelona barthelona a small sample [TS]

00:46:41   herpaderp oh maria semple gave just gave [TS]

00:46:45   a talk where she was describing her [TS]

00:46:47   writing process and it was that she [TS]

00:46:51   imagine some characters and then she [TS]

00:46:55   wanted and then she decided what was [TS]

00:46:57   going to happen to them [TS]

00:46:58   here's what she hears what she has she [TS]

00:47:00   has the characters and then she knows [TS]

00:47:02   what she wants to happen to them at the [TS]

00:47:05   end she was she knows where they at [TS]

00:47:07   where she wants them to end up and then [TS]

00:47:09   the book writes itself and I I thought [TS]

00:47:13   about that she was speaking and then I [TS]

00:47:14   walked away with it I've been turning it [TS]

00:47:16   over in my hands over sentence [TS]

00:47:17   huh you said you know I've got these i [TS]

00:47:20   got this character a a callow shrill [TS]

00:47:24   woman and I want her to get her [TS]

00:47:27   comeuppance and I want to come up and [TS]

00:47:29   still look like this and so here we go [TS]

00:47:33   and here's her journey on her way to her [TS]

00:47:36   comeuppance [TS]

00:47:36   I was like me that's a that's very [TS]

00:47:41   different from like starting in the dark [TS]

00:47:44   and feeling your way toward like 900 [TS]

00:47:48   pages of gibberish and then trying to [TS]

00:47:50   filter that down into 10 song at how [TS]

00:47:53   light the light give creating a fiction [TS]

00:47:57   book a novel in any way is just seems [TS]

00:47:59   like such a staggering idea to me and [TS]

00:48:01   wonder how I wonder I wonder if that [TS]

00:48:03   process works for more than one book [TS]

00:48:04   she's describing it as as working now [TS]

00:48:09   successfully for her through three books [TS]

00:48:12   wow she that's that's she's got a good [TS]

00:48:14   mind [TS]

00:48:15   yeah you need a good mind to do [TS]

00:48:17   something like that very smart and [TS]

00:48:19   writing a novel i got i wish i could [TS]

00:48:23   yeah i've never tried so I don't know if [TS]

00:48:27   I could take you have to start with [TS]

00:48:28   short fiction so short fiction I think I [TS]

00:48:32   friends and Outsiders in Outsiders [TS]

00:48:33   somebody who enjoys fiction from as an [TS]

00:48:36   outsider point-of-view kind of seems [TS]

00:48:37   like that's the it feels like in a [TS]

00:48:39   really perhaps dumb way that's the [TS]

00:48:42   training wheels for learning how to tell [TS]

00:48:43   a story is to write something you know [TS]

00:48:45   10 pages long before you write something [TS]

00:48:47   300 pages [TS]

00:48:48   well I I may have done this because it [TS]

00:48:53   was very self-serving but a long time [TS]

00:48:55   ago I said the novel is a is a high art [TS]

00:49:03   but then the short story is a higher art [TS]

00:49:07   because you have less room fewer words [TS]

00:49:13   to tell the entire tail and then poems [TS]

00:49:19   as commonly would say aren't even [TS]

00:49:24   further and even higher art because you [TS]

00:49:26   have now reduced it you have reduced the [TS]

00:49:30   short story to or the rather you reduce [TS]

00:49:34   the novel's worth of story two stanzas [TS]

00:49:39   and then the highest ours is the pop [TS]

00:49:44   song because now you've taken the poem [TS]

00:49:48   and cleanse it of all of its impurity [TS]

00:49:52   wash the filth out of it through and [TS]

00:49:56   made only the gold only the little [TS]

00:50:00   shining nuggets and that is why the pop [TS]

00:50:04   song sits atop the pyramid of all [TS]

00:50:07   writing as the true condensation now [TS]

00:50:13   that may be that may be self-serving but [TS]

00:50:16   i don't think so [TS]

00:50:17   who I think I i think it I think that [TS]

00:50:20   within the within the sphere that that I [TS]

00:50:24   grow I grow the sphere were in it the [TS]

00:50:30   one in which he located yourself [TS]

00:50:31   that's right I be the sphere I i see the [TS]

00:50:35   spear I be the sphere living rooms and [TS]

00:50:40   within that groans here I i think i've [TS]

00:50:44   reduced the I budget reduce the sum [TS]

00:50:47   total of all human knowledge to a to a [TS]

00:50:50   poster that could go on the wall of a [TS]

00:50:52   dentist's office [TS]

00:50:53   I don't think that sounds self-serving [TS]

00:50:53   know my pitches photographs of furniture [TS]

00:50:57   that is made on it on the walls of his [TS]

00:50:59   place [TS]

00:51:01   no it's much worse it's much more [TS]

00:51:02   clockwork orange it's why I don't go [TS]

00:51:04   there anymore [TS]

00:51:05   he's very much you mean does he play his [TS]

00:51:07   his sons band over the over the intercom [TS]

00:51:11   it's kind of worse he's very gregarious [TS]

00:51:13   nom everyone is it well yeah I mean I I [TS]

00:51:19   I don't want to talk to the over guy [TS]

00:51:21   definitely want to talk to my dentist is [TS]

00:51:22   a very nice guy but there's a very very [TS]

00:51:24   large screen in your face that is [TS]

00:51:26   nominally they're so like a kid could [TS]

00:51:28   watch dora or something but he has his [TS]

00:51:31   screensaver for a TV screen it's a big [TS]

00:51:34   big big TV screen that you have to look [TS]

00:51:36   at because you can either like look look [TS]

00:51:37   at him while he's in your mouth or you [TS]

00:51:38   can look at this screen right right [TS]

00:51:41   exactly Hobson's choice and so but up on [TS]

00:51:43   the screen is a canny mix of furniture [TS]

00:51:46   that he is built and cartoons about [TS]

00:51:49   dentistry that he regards as funny I [TS]

00:51:51   don't know [TS]

00:51:52   yeah I can't see the Beethoven anymore [TS]

00:51:56   I mean it's like kind of blue whoo-hoo [TS]

00:51:59   oh my my my [TS]

00:52:07   the Newport home companion yeah ha ha ha [TS]

00:52:11   tinh know you haven't listened to the [TS]

00:52:17   old prairie home companion except when i [TS]

00:52:18   was over at friends houses in mind [TS]

00:52:20   looking for aa really this is this is [TS]

00:52:23   we're going with this you did you've [TS]

00:52:24   never listened to prairie home companion [TS]

00:52:25   not voluntarily okay Herman what's now [TS]

00:52:29   hosted by that that that funny [TS]

00:52:31   nice hilarious talented man who plays [TS]

00:52:33   mandolin in the band that's not it's not [TS]

00:52:36   Nickelback used to be a nickel creek [TS]

00:52:38   that's right he's extremely talented and [TS]

00:52:40   funny and has made the show fun uh a [TS]

00:52:43   friend of the show John Hodgman was on [TS]

00:52:45   this week's episode [TS]

00:52:45   oh that's fun that is it is fun and [TS]

00:52:48   they've had great they had lake street [TS]

00:52:49   dive which is my favorite band i've [TS]

00:52:51   discovered in 2016 they were on [TS]

00:52:53   okay good but they're not they're not [TS]

00:52:55   being too cute about it still got a lot [TS]

00:52:57   of flavor of the old show you never [TS]

00:52:58   listen to on purpose right [TS]

00:53:00   all the kids are beautiful and all of [TS]

00:53:04   the trucks run on time [TS]

00:53:06   yep ethanol here at Lake Wobegon at [TS]

00:53:08   least at least garrison keillor made the [TS]

00:53:10   trucks run on time [TS]

00:53:11   well so I am I would consider myself [TS]

00:53:14   pretty darn good friends with sara [TS]

00:53:17   watkins chance she's very talented home [TS]

00:53:20   then she'll be on the old show you [TS]

00:53:21   didn't listen to quite often she's no [TS]

00:53:23   cindy cashdollar but she would be on [TS]

00:53:25   fairly often [TS]

00:53:25   yeah well she and her brother and the [TS]

00:53:28   other otherwise it's now hosting it [TS]

00:53:29   that's right in the other where they [TS]

00:53:30   were Nickelback the three of them they [TS]

00:53:32   were Nickelback and they are amazingly [TS]

00:53:34   charming wonderful tear them cover [TS]

00:53:36   pavement curl your hair [TS]

00:53:38   yeah take the cover spit spit on a [TS]

00:53:41   stranger and sublime they there's a lot [TS]

00:53:44   of sublimity in one lady subliminally am [TS]

00:53:47   and I thought when he got that show that [TS]

00:53:51   if there was a chance for someone to [TS]

00:53:54   come in and take over for garrison that [TS]

00:53:57   this always like Hong Kong garrison [TS]

00:53:59   garrison who he garrison himself in that [TS]

00:54:03   in that a saint paul public radio [TS]

00:54:06   building and I thought that there was a [TS]

00:54:10   very good chance that that would be a [TS]

00:54:12   success because of the because of the [TS]

00:54:14   slept sublimity and the and the talent [TS]

00:54:17   has good taste too and it sounds like [TS]

00:54:19   it's happened also you can rip like [TS]

00:54:21   everybody playing mandolin like he plays [TS]

00:54:23   he plays the mandolin like a genie pages [TS]

00:54:25   of guitar player is pull offs are crazy [TS]

00:54:27   but being about the mandolin is that [TS]

00:54:29   that as mandolin playing gets better and [TS]

00:54:32   better [TS]

00:54:33   it becomes clearer and clearer that the [TS]

00:54:36   mandolin is the mandolin is just there [TS]

00:54:39   to make it make no clouds [TS]

00:54:42   mmm yeah Pat Allen who bad mandolin [TS]

00:54:47   playing is like his mandolin playing [TS]

00:54:51   that bad mandolin playing is is fairly a [TS]

00:54:54   musical right because it's someone [TS]

00:54:56   that's used to playing the guitar picks [TS]

00:54:58   up the mandolin figures out for five [TS]

00:55:00   chords and then it's just a really high [TS]

00:55:03   little little guitar be loop loop like [TS]

00:55:06   you know like the same setup [TS]

00:55:08   yep oh no kidding so what do you mean is [TS]

00:55:11   that the same setup no I don't like four [TS]

00:55:13   ok but i do think that if you're if [TS]

00:55:16   you're used to playing the guitar you [TS]

00:55:18   can sit in a noodle on it and be like [TS]

00:55:19   well I put my finger here it sounds like [TS]

00:55:21   that but you know you you make chords [TS]

00:55:23   you find chords I'm gonna learn about [TS]

00:55:25   mandolin tunings but as you get better [TS]

00:55:27   and better [TS]

00:55:28   the mandolin and you get faster and [TS]

00:55:29   faster and pull-offs get faster and [TS]

00:55:31   faster it becomes just that you know [TS]

00:55:33   that like it's every note all the time I [TS]

00:55:35   bet it's hard i mean that the tension on [TS]

00:55:37   the strings is pretty high but you don't [TS]

00:55:39   get a lot of slack it's not like a Les [TS]

00:55:40   Paul right it's not like it's not like a [TS]

00:55:43   fretless wonder it's not like a black [TS]

00:55:45   black les paul custom home but he the [TS]

00:55:49   advantages that the notes are really [TS]

00:55:51   close together and you don't have sure [TS]

00:55:53   so you have time hands or something tiny [TS]

00:55:55   hands you believe me [TS]

00:55:56   Miss Elizabeth notices yeah looks like [TS]

00:55:58   the opposite of a guitar upside down [TS]

00:56:00   guitar so it's ji ji Dae GD I he used to [TS]

00:56:05   throw shit all over the stage all I [TS]

00:56:07   remember him he's going to cut himself [TS]

00:56:09   GD yeah cut himself and then smear his [TS]

00:56:11   poop in it [TS]

00:56:12   yep something and we and that was art [TS]

00:56:14   research magazine GG dae I know that [TS]

00:56:20   seems ukulele John what's ukulele team [TS]

00:56:22   up to ninja hang on a telephone [TS]

00:56:25   telephone uq leili tuning I don't know [TS]

00:56:29   how ukuleles tuned even though i play [TS]

00:56:31   them all the time because I picked them [TS]

00:56:33   up and I tune them to the to my best [TS]

00:56:36   casts oh yeah so all all instruments [TS]

00:56:40   that I that somebody that are left in my [TS]

00:56:43   hands long enough for me to take [TS]

00:56:45   ownership of the tuning who I end up [TS]

00:56:49   tuning at least in the form of the high [TS]

00:56:51   for strings of a guitar interesting and [TS]

00:56:55   did you ask a person before you enter [TS]

00:56:57   ukulele letter and ukulele right if [TS]

00:57:00   someone hands me there ukulele and says [TS]

00:57:02   here you go [TS]

00:57:03   I do what I'm suggesting is what i would [TS]

00:57:05   do on the mandolin I would never try to [TS]

00:57:07   the mandolin but I just said and I yeah [TS]

00:57:10   I just play notes until I find chords [TS]

00:57:13   and then I'm like MJ mandolin seems like [TS]

00:57:15   a circle of hell because you got doubles [TS]

00:57:16   of everything it's like a 12-string but [TS]

00:57:18   with the none of the 12 string guitar [TS]

00:57:20   notes of it [TS]

00:57:21   yeah a drink that's tuned some some [TS]

00:57:24   other way and but that's what I mean [TS]

00:57:27   when I say if someone leaves their [TS]

00:57:29   ukulele with me long enough that i would [TS]

00:57:31   take over possession of the tuning which [TS]

00:57:34   is to say [TS]

00:57:35   more than overnight somebody if you [TS]

00:57:38   leave your ukulele with me overnight [TS]

00:57:39   somebody let you ukulele right if [TS]

00:57:42   somebody said like hey I left my ukulele [TS]

00:57:45   at your house i'll be back in six months [TS]

00:57:48   enjoy it yes i would take over the [TS]

00:57:52   tuning of it sure would sit and look at [TS]

00:57:53   this thing and just be like mm canada [TS]

00:57:57   and so at that point i would tune it [TS]

00:58:01   like a like a guitar and I and i'm not [TS]

00:58:03   sure i would even know [TS]

00:58:05   dge 2gb now so that's just like it's [TS]

00:58:10   just like it's guitar i get out you know [TS]

00:58:12   I've got a I've gotta a ukulele guitar [TS]

00:58:16   that I like a lot to tell you about this [TS]

00:58:18   ukulele guitar [TS]

00:58:19   yeah so it's a it's a guitar that's like [TS]

00:58:22   the size of a big ukulele and you just [TS]

00:58:24   have it sitting around in the family [TS]

00:58:25   room doesn't stay tuned [TS]

00:58:28   not too bad it just uses classical [TS]

00:58:30   guitar strings basically it really needs [TS]

00:58:31   to change I've had a frog almost couple [TS]

00:58:33   years now i love having around here's [TS]

00:58:35   the ball thing I did [TS]

00:58:36   normally you tune this thing the ease in [TS]

00:58:38   a yeah i'm doing right I'm doing drop [TS]

00:58:41   gee I took down add my friend gee sounds [TS]

00:58:44   great [TS]

00:58:45   totally exactly totally baller that is [TS]

00:58:49   that does sound cool you pick one these [TS]

00:58:51   up they're not very expensive and there [TS]

00:58:52   would be ideal for someone like you can [TS]

00:58:55   leave a key backer he held the [TS]

00:58:57   backpacker if you're a lock and welder [TS]

00:58:59   anything like that [TS]

00:59:01   walking welder we also got something our [TS]

00:59:03   house the other day that that's a lot [TS]

00:59:04   like what your what your meat sticks [TS]

00:59:06   called was called jagermeister no [TS]

00:59:09   seniors lon Yolanda yauger they are we [TS]

00:59:13   are we have a new salami product in our [TS]

00:59:15   house it's like it's basically about the [TS]

00:59:17   circumference of the key tip but it's [TS]

00:59:19   made out of salami and it's a delicious [TS]

00:59:21   three did you snap into a slim jim you [TS]

00:59:23   don't happen to you get from trader [TS]

00:59:25   joe's uh mhm mhm [TS]

00:59:29   anyway it was somebody write somebody a [TS]

00:59:31   good a good friend of mine a good friend [TS]

00:59:34   of this program that you might not know [TS]

00:59:36   okay gave me very generously gave me a [TS]

00:59:40   basket of laundry eggers boy [TS]

00:59:44   and said you know we drove all the way [TS]

00:59:46   across town in our town different from [TS]

00:59:49   my town and bought these land jaegers [TS]

00:59:51   and we love you to have them [TS]

00:59:52   that's so nice it was incredibly nice [TS]

00:59:54   really i think this is the problem i did [TS]

00:59:57   not prefer em there [TS]

00:59:57   not prefer em there [TS]

01:00:00   and Yeager's to my own land oh there [TS]

01:00:02   because Langer's you know they can go a [TS]

01:00:04   lot of different directions [TS]

01:00:05   absolutely and so I figured like say [TS]

01:00:08   anything about that really what you're [TS]

01:00:09   saying is like there's a form factor [TS]

01:00:11   here we want this thing that's like [TS]

01:00:12   super comfortable like a husky pencil [TS]

01:00:14   yeah nobody's gonna make it out of I bet [TS]

01:00:17   there's a lot of options there a lot of [TS]

01:00:19   options and how are you going to grind [TS]

01:00:21   up this stuff that you're going to put [TS]

01:00:22   in it [TS]

01:00:23   our season casing seasoning casing m.i.a [TS]

01:00:27   and so I figured you know these were [TS]

01:00:31   originally meant to be carried around in [TS]

01:00:33   the pocket of a farmer for however long [TS]

01:00:36   for azzaro at in the pocket of a [TS]

01:00:39   goatherd or somebody somebody that goes [TS]

01:00:41   up into the mountains and then comes [TS]

01:00:43   down some indeterminate time later huh [TS]

01:00:46   and so I put them in my pocket and [TS]

01:00:47   walked around figured they needed a [TS]

01:00:49   little bit of pocket curing Tokyo sure [TS]

01:00:51   and it didn't improve them and so they [TS]

01:00:55   said in my refrigerator a while and I [TS]

01:00:57   said maybe what they need to be is they [TS]

01:00:59   need to be desiccated because these [TS]

01:01:01   things are are better when they're [TS]

01:01:03   desiccated but no that didn't help them [TS]

01:01:07   either [TS]

01:01:08   and then I would be like that the easy [TS]

01:01:09   sticking a bag with like some silica [TS]

01:01:10   packets [TS]

01:01:12   well i think if you leave a thing in the [TS]

01:01:14   refrigerator long enough it will self [TS]

01:01:17   discipline and self test case yeah so [TS]

01:01:19   that didn't prove them and at the whole [TS]

01:01:21   time I was covered in a little bit of [TS]

01:01:23   shame because i like that i like the [TS]

01:01:25   people that gave me the land jaegers and [TS]

01:01:28   I and I did consider the supreme act of [TS]

01:01:31   generosity but i just could not stomach [TS]

01:01:33   these Landers and eventually they went [TS]

01:01:34   down the river [TS]

01:01:36   mmm yeah which was you know terrible i [TS]

01:01:39   just want their land Yeager for the [TS]

01:01:41   first time it's bigger than I thought it [TS]

01:01:42   would be it's not a slim jim it really [TS]

01:01:44   old like it's like a small-ish like [TS]

01:01:46   legitimate sausage [TS]

01:01:47   yeah it's a it well and the more that [TS]

01:01:51   the the more that the moisture goes out [TS]

01:01:53   of it the more it becomes it's like if [TS]

01:01:56   you're let's see it's bigger than your [TS]

01:01:59   finger [TS]

01:02:00   yeah it's bigger than its like if you [TS]

01:02:03   took a candle your typical candle em you [TS]

01:02:07   burned it for an hour and then you a [TS]

01:02:13   it around in your pocket okay for a [TS]

01:02:15   couple of weeks and I mean like it's on [TS]

01:02:18   stage and pocket candle its that's right [TS]

01:02:20   it's a candle that has had wax dripped [TS]

01:02:22   down the side of it from having burned [TS]

01:02:24   for an hour and then you took it out and [TS]

01:02:25   carried around your pocket for let's say [TS]

01:02:27   the length of time it took you to get [TS]

01:02:29   these goats over the mountain but it [TS]

01:02:30   matches the performance characteristics [TS]

01:02:31   you look for in this kind of thing it's [TS]

01:02:34   not like you're going to carry around [TS]

01:02:35   like what like poached eggs or porridge [TS]

01:02:37   in your pocket and you need something [TS]

01:02:38   portable something's gonna be Hardy that [TS]

01:02:40   idiotic let's be honest if you fall off [TS]

01:02:42   the tractor it's not gonna ruin your [TS]

01:02:43   lunch [TS]

01:02:44   well sure a it's it's like if you could [TS]

01:02:49   carry a pickle in your pocket I'd love [TS]

01:02:51   that a little pickle [TS]

01:02:52   yeah you can't carry a pickle in your [TS]

01:02:54   pocket it's going to get your that the [TS]

01:02:56   the brine is going to give you a rash [TS]

01:02:59   oh that's a shame but al and Yeager's [TS]

01:03:01   not going to give you a rash who and [TS]

01:03:03   it's um yeah I carry them around the [TS]

01:03:06   thing about beef jerky is beef jerky [TS]

01:03:08   gets its hard to eat get stuck in your [TS]

01:03:12   teeth [TS]

01:03:12   yeah it isn't it is this a little more [TS]

01:03:14   moist to desiccate it as it is a little [TS]

01:03:16   more moist and jerky [TS]

01:03:18   absolutely it snaps my guests like a [TS]

01:03:21   slim jim [TS]

01:03:22   there's more to it it doesn't involve [TS]

01:03:25   any kind of pro-wrestling element [TS]

01:03:27   yeah I understand when you bite into it [TS]

01:03:29   you imagine I mean like if this was a [TS]

01:03:33   television commercial and I've never [TS]

01:03:35   seen a commercial for land taker but if [TS]

01:03:37   this was a television commercial [TS]

01:03:39   I'd be like a guy just a normal guy [TS]

01:03:41   walking around his normal guy clothes [TS]

01:03:43   and then I'd snap into a land jager [TS]

01:03:46   instantly i will be wearing lederhosen [TS]

01:03:48   what you want italian hat and I Rowland [TS]

01:03:51   had and I would go world and the the [TS]

01:03:54   commercial the tagline would be land [TS]

01:03:57   eager turns you into a tyro lien em they [TS]

01:04:00   can I workshop that little more hit land [TS]

01:04:03   jager welcome to garmisch-partenkirchen [TS]

01:04:05   mm and that well yeah okay so that's not [TS]

01:04:10   a great i'm looking at him right now and [TS]

01:04:11   they they look they look really to some [TS]

01:04:13   you've never had you never have I don't [TS]

01:04:15   know if I have I have I forgot it [TS]

01:04:18   you have to go find the Bavarian butcher [TS]

01:04:21   shop either like the Bavarian quarter of [TS]

01:04:23   the sphere go to the Bavarian quarter [TS]

01:04:26   well yeah san Francisco's famous [TS]

01:04:27   Bavarian court who which is right over [TS]

01:04:30   there by italian town and yeah you walk [TS]

01:04:34   the streets and you you [TS]

01:04:37   yo for landecker that's the phrase you [TS]

01:04:40   know for Yeager y'all for a jager didn't [TS]

01:04:44   want to tell you addicted [TS]

01:04:46   yeah oh he's more local la you get he go [TS]

01:04:53   la de cola i think that the the process [TS]

01:04:58   of making and jager kills ecoline I'm [TS]

01:05:00   gonna just come right out and say [TS]

01:05:02   whatever you you want my friends food [TS]

01:05:03   podcast right direction that is not [TS]

01:05:06   gonna he may agree or disagree [TS]

01:05:08   uh-huh you make that he's got a lot of [TS]

01:05:10   thoughts he doesn't get the consensus on [TS]

01:05:12   that podcast seem to be everything you [TS]

01:05:15   put in your mouth there is an element of [TS]

01:05:17   risk and all we can do as eaters is to [TS]

01:05:22   measure the risk and bite into those [TS]

01:05:26   things where we've determined that the [TS]

01:05:27   risk is manageable life would be so much [TS]

01:05:32   better if we acknowledge that that's the [TS]

01:05:33   way everything is yeah i think that [TS]

01:05:36   there is not an inherent risk in things [TS]

01:05:38   that causes problems everything is risky [TS]

01:05:41   everything is risky just haven't [TS]

01:05:42   quantified yet yeah that's why anxious [TS]

01:05:44   people are technically right [TS]

01:05:47   hello um and so capacity Podsednik be [TS]

01:05:54   technically right about time how I [TS]

01:05:55   you're technically right little the [TS]

01:05:58   capacity to live in the world is [TS]

01:06:00   determined by your ability to or we're [TS]

01:06:03   on the sliding scale of risk management [TS]

01:06:05   you're gonna you're gonna put the marker [TS]

01:06:08   where you say this is the amount of risk [TS]

01:06:12   I'm willing to take em and my risk [TS]

01:06:15   marker is way out [TS]

01:06:17   I think relative to others I'm going to [TS]

01:06:19   take a lot of risk not knowing that [TS]

01:06:24   knowing that everything could everything [TS]

01:06:26   can potentially kill you [TS]

01:06:27   I mean I have a basket full of swords in [TS]

01:06:29   this house yeah which is not when you [TS]

01:06:32   know when my child was born and there [TS]

01:06:34   was all that all that talk in the [TS]

01:06:36   culture of the people who were around me [TS]

01:06:39   at the time who were helping me make [TS]

01:06:42   manage the transition between not having [TS]

01:06:44   a child in my house and having a child [TS]

01:06:46   in my house I think they would if they [TS]

01:06:48   had known about the basket of swords [TS]

01:06:49   they would have said you need to get [TS]

01:06:51   that out of here called baby-proofing [TS]

01:06:52   yeah baby proofing your house they put [TS]

01:06:54   they were telling me I should put things [TS]

01:06:56   in the electrical outlets right now [TS]

01:06:57   should take all the cleaning supplies [TS]

01:06:59   out from under the sink and all the [TS]

01:07:01   things we supposed to do they don't even [TS]

01:07:03   do that they don't even didn't know [TS]

01:07:05   about the basket swords I didn't really [TS]

01:07:08   baby proof my house I house proof my [TS]

01:07:10   baby that's a smart but what I did do [TS]

01:07:13   was I took all of the vintage a [TS]

01:07:16   barristers both cases out of what became [TS]

01:07:19   the baby's room because that the glass [TS]

01:07:23   in the front of those cases is fairly [TS]

01:07:25   thin [TS]

01:07:25   oh yeah me and it's not exactly like [TS]

01:07:27   shatterproof and I said maybe I should [TS]

01:07:30   transform this library that is now the [TS]

01:07:33   baby's room into an actual baby's room [TS]

01:07:35   and take all the things that could kill [TS]

01:07:36   her out of here and i moved all of my [TS]

01:07:39   vintage poisons to higher shelves in to [TS]

01:07:42   outsmart the SMART we just I think as [TS]

01:07:44   far as i know i've removed as of this [TS]

01:07:46   weekend i remove the last piece of [TS]

01:07:50   baby-proofing we unintentionally kept [TS]

01:07:52   around it's all going to what we will be [TS]

01:07:55   doing for years so it starts out with [TS]

01:07:56   the first thing you got to get rid of is [TS]

01:07:58   that bullshit that makes it hard to open [TS]

01:07:59   things so write it like the things that [TS]

01:08:02   keep your poison drawer like I know you [TS]

01:08:03   don't have this with your vintage [TS]

01:08:04   poisons but a lot of times you put some [TS]

01:08:05   kind of a clasp on there we got to know [TS]

01:08:07   the secret knock to get into where the [TS]

01:08:09   windex is and and you take those [TS]

01:08:12   officers you can cause that's the worst [TS]

01:08:13   because you're living with that every [TS]

01:08:14   day and then eventually like the [TS]

01:08:16   doorknob things that won't let you lock [TS]

01:08:17   a door and that's the kind of stuff you [TS]

01:08:19   get those off but I finally took off the [TS]

01:08:21   last one it was a safety because it [TS]

01:08:23   didn't matter that it was an inert form [TS]

01:08:25   of baby-proofing that we didn't need to [TS]

01:08:27   worry about [TS]

01:08:28   it's one of those things where you put [TS]

01:08:29   it over a lights ah look at little to [TS]

01:08:32   pick knows light outlet power outlet and [TS]

01:08:35   allows you to snap a cover onto it so [TS]

01:08:36   you can still have stuff [TS]

01:08:38   yeah so I remove that so we could put [TS]

01:08:40   the the cat the cat relaxing diffuser [TS]

01:08:42   into their without bumping up against [TS]

01:08:43   the edges of the plastic you have a you [TS]

01:08:45   have some kind of electric device that [TS]

01:08:47   diffuses your cat with two electric [TS]

01:08:49   devices in our house [TS]

01:08:50   that uh that dispensed through the [TS]

01:08:54   diffusion method defuse a chemical into [TS]

01:08:56   the air that relaxes the cat haha I [TS]

01:09:03   couldn't do that when is baby-proofed so [TS]

01:09:05   it's like a febreze for cats [TS]

01:09:08   mhm it's a febreze for cats emotions [TS]

01:09:11   abroad for cata motion for brees does it [TS]

01:09:14   does it counteract the triska dekha [TS]

01:09:18   plasmosis [TS]

01:09:19   oh right thing we don't eat the poop [TS]

01:09:21   because they don't let ya have trusted [TS]

01:09:23   your cat lover [TS]

01:09:24   yeah yeah I don't know I I can't tell [TS]

01:09:27   this is again this is one of those you [TS]

01:09:28   know one of those things where you can [TS]

01:09:31   it's hard to tell if it works you know [TS]

01:09:32   whether the guy says they were guess [TS]

01:09:33   what he doing he says I'm here scare [TS]

01:09:35   away the alligators and mrs. there's no [TS]

01:09:37   alligators here is to see it's working [TS]

01:09:38   its work so we got two of these and we [TS]

01:09:40   within a week we noticed the cats seem [TS]

01:09:42   calmer so it's difficult we don't have a [TS]

01:09:44   control cat once again we're back to [TS]

01:09:45   that old problem there's no control [TS]

01:09:46   group does your cap suffering from [TS]

01:09:48   anxiety sure she does she's very [TS]

01:09:50   skittish I see and I think she does it [TS]

01:09:52   on purpose to provoke me she's been [TS]

01:09:55   living with us since februari and she [TS]

01:09:56   knows that we walk through the house [TS]

01:09:58   yeah we walked through the house on a [TS]

01:09:59   regular basis and so he's just got that [TS]

01:10:01   that stands in the hallway and she [TS]

01:10:03   stares she stares into something in a [TS]

01:10:05   state of readiness she at first she just [TS]

01:10:08   kinda looks like some kind of hairy cake [TS]

01:10:09   and she just sits there and then she [TS]

01:10:11   looks at me and her face is like [TS]

01:10:12   what-what and I walk a little bit and [TS]

01:10:14   she was into a ready position and then [TS]

01:10:16   she starts walking in the direction that [TS]

01:10:18   she knows that I am walking one step in [TS]

01:10:21   front of me she stops acts terrified [TS]

01:10:24   jumps a little bit to where she knows [TS]

01:10:26   I'm gonna walk more than does kind of a [TS]

01:10:28   180 and starts running in abject fear [TS]

01:10:31   and does this keep your because it [TS]

01:10:35   doesn't impede establishing a gentle [TS]

01:10:38   pace for you are you are you saying oh [TS]

01:10:41   you're trying not to step on her you're [TS]

01:10:43   trying your like I'm also kind of [TS]

01:10:45   startled now just one thing you know [TS]

01:10:47   about me John you notice that I like [TS]

01:10:48   velocity this it's important to me to [TS]

01:10:51   get in motion [TS]

01:10:52   you can't stay in motion until you get [TS]

01:10:54   in motion right this is not addressed [TS]

01:10:57   because a trap it's very hard to get out [TS]

01:10:59   of the house on a weekend morning [TS]

01:11:01   because I [TS]

01:11:02   velocity in the form of my child she [TS]

01:11:05   will not allow me to have any velocity [TS]

01:11:06   until at least 12 30 so it's like you [TS]

01:11:10   know you gotta get the shoes we gotta do [TS]

01:11:11   the thing we got to go do that thing [TS]

01:11:14   that you're cranking up an old air raid [TS]

01:11:16   siren like and the cat she knows what [TS]

01:11:20   she's doing she knows which and then and [TS]

01:11:22   then at night as she comes into powder [TS]

01:11:24   for two hours so that's we have a very [TS]

01:11:27   good relationship but but now I think [TS]

01:11:29   she's just I think she's just frightened [TS]

01:11:31   ham to be honest [TS]

01:11:32   yeah you don't mean I think I think she [TS]

01:11:34   knows what she's doing at some point in [TS]

01:11:36   the nineteen eighties my mom was in the [TS]

01:11:38   1960s my mom raised board boys and a and [TS]

01:11:44   considers herself that my mom is a [TS]

01:11:46   frequent character on this podcast she [TS]

01:11:48   considered herself to your grant or [TS]

01:11:51   something is there we should get maybe [TS]

01:11:52   like some kind of macarthur thing [TS]

01:11:54   yeah pell grant or a parent talk for a [TS]

01:11:56   witness [TS]

01:11:57   um huh [TS]

01:12:00   she raised boys and I and I think maybe [TS]

01:12:03   not in accurately credits herself partly [TS]

01:12:07   with reestablishing the borzoi as a as a [TS]

01:12:10   viable breed in the Americas [TS]

01:12:13   wow just the boys were were fairly [TS]

01:12:16   endangered because at during the Russian [TS]

01:12:19   Revolution the the Russian peoples the [TS]

01:12:23   revolutionary Russian peoples killed the [TS]

01:12:25   board boys all mass because they were [TS]

01:12:27   the dogs of these ours all those is he [TS]

01:12:30   had killed a symbol [TS]

01:12:31   yeah kill the simple kill the dogs of [TS]

01:12:33   the Czar's and so the the borzoi only [TS]

01:12:35   survived in the population of boys that [TS]

01:12:38   had been given to other Kings as gifts [TS]

01:12:41   but czars and so my mom raised boys and [TS]

01:12:46   sold borzoi pups to the people who are [TS]

01:12:49   now credited with having re-establish [TS]

01:12:52   the breeds for the breed so she so she [TS]

01:12:55   reads the history of the borzoi in [TS]

01:12:57   America as you do [TS]

01:12:59   who and it sort of goes back to the [TS]

01:13:03   Johnson family and the percocet family [TS]

01:13:06   or whatever sure that then percocet the [TS]

01:13:08   percocet boys [TS]

01:13:09   yeah then the New England percocets okay [TS]

01:13:11   uh and it's the Walla Walla Walla [TS]

01:13:15   mhm and she says you know what I sold [TS]

01:13:17   three puppies to the to the New England [TS]

01:13:19   percocets and that's that's where they [TS]

01:13:21   got their dogs right so another coming [TS]

01:13:25   back to the well that's right the [TS]

01:13:27   percocets are coming up dry and they [TS]

01:13:29   have to go outside New England to find a [TS]

01:13:31   borzoi now and they're going to call [TS]

01:13:33   oh no I think that it was the i think [TS]

01:13:35   it's it's even earlier than that I think [TS]

01:13:36   they were sitting up there in New [TS]

01:13:37   England and they were reading a magazine [TS]

01:13:39   and they said oh we want boys [TS]

01:13:41   I and my mom had the had one of the few [TS]

01:13:44   populations I ok I get it [TS]

01:13:46   this is in the sixties so she connects [TS]

01:13:49   with all the credit but they weren't [TS]

01:13:50   really on the boys I'm a flower like [TS]

01:13:53   your mom was that's right that's right [TS]

01:13:54   she's the she's the herbivores like uh [TS]

01:13:57   huh and she got rid of her boys in the [TS]

01:14:02   late sixties when manouschka her chief [TS]

01:14:06   her chief mayor a bit me like 40 times [TS]

01:14:14   in the face right face of one-and-a-half [TS]

01:14:16   side block that out but now i remember [TS]

01:14:17   that's horrible [TS]

01:14:19   so we didn't have boards for a long time [TS]

01:14:21   but then in the nineteen eighties when I [TS]

01:14:23   was in high school mom decided that she [TS]

01:14:25   wanted a borzoi again and so she bought [TS]

01:14:27   this board is only puppy tell us be [TS]

01:14:29   honest she wasn't that worried about you [TS]

01:14:30   anymore [TS]

01:14:31   at that point if a borzoi bit me on the [TS]

01:14:33   face it was probably my fault he [TS]

01:14:35   probably had it coming [TS]

01:14:36   that's right i wasn't i if you're [TS]

01:14:38   antagonizing the borzoi that's right the [TS]

01:14:40   two don't antagonize the board's away [TS]

01:14:42   and I wasn't antagonizing the board but [TS]

01:14:46   she bought a borzoi puppy and if you [TS]

01:14:48   know anything about boys even as a even [TS]

01:14:51   as a puppy a boy's about the size of a [TS]

01:14:54   comfort horse and so here you'd have you [TS]

01:15:02   have a comfortable with that in the form [TS]

01:15:04   of a dog either covered horses and [TS]

01:15:06   you're not aware that twice I've seen [TS]

01:15:08   guys saw the comfort duck the other day [TS]

01:15:10   I see pigs sure we remember all too well [TS]

01:15:14   because I didn't want to be able to take [TS]

01:15:15   a horse on a plane seems like that [TS]

01:15:17   stick-up [TS]

01:15:18   I just want you right now to google [TS]

01:15:20   comfort horse ok because they're small [TS]

01:15:22   horses like lil Sebastian ok come house [TS]

01:15:25   but it's still a horse so I don't you [TS]

01:15:28   can make a horse as small as maybe you [TS]

01:15:31   would want if you had a comfort animal I [TS]

01:15:34   mean it but apparently people who want [TS]

01:15:37   comfort animals who need comfort animals [TS]

01:15:39   find the comfort horse to be very [TS]

01:15:41   comforting [TS]

01:15:43   I can i no know this and I I i get that [TS]

01:15:46   like if you have you happen to have [TS]

01:15:47   stables and require comfort horse seems [TS]

01:15:50   like a great fit to me well but a [TS]

01:15:51   comfort horse doesn't need a stable [TS]

01:15:52   comfort worse i think can curl up on in [TS]

01:15:55   a basket oh my goodness but it's got to [TS]

01:15:57   be a big basket [TS]

01:15:58   ok mm and so the borzoi puppy was the [TS]

01:16:03   size of a comfort horse but it was a dog [TS]

01:16:04   and it had it was it suffered from an [TS]

01:16:10   anxiety disorder that meant that anytime [TS]

01:16:14   it saw you it immediately ran in every [TS]

01:16:17   direction simultaneous on now because [TS]

01:16:19   the depositor you know going each each [TS]

01:16:22   Paul going a different direction because [TS]

01:16:24   it's a it's an enormous wolf hunting dog [TS]

01:16:26   that's living in a home on my gosh [TS]

01:16:29   and then it would hide under bet [TS]

01:16:31   couldn't fit under the couch it would [TS]

01:16:32   have tried to hide under the couch of it [TS]

01:16:34   could because it thought it was the size [TS]

01:16:35   of a rabbit all the poor thing [TS]

01:16:37   it was terrible and so I was living in [TS]

01:16:40   the house with a with a comfort horse [TS]

01:16:43   sized dog that wanted nothing at all to [TS]

01:16:47   do with me it never allowed me to touch [TS]

01:16:49   it and I was a I was a rambunctious teen [TS]

01:16:52   that was myself the size of a comfort [TS]

01:16:55   horse i was even bigger than comfort [TS]

01:16:57   oars tell me hands [TS]

01:16:58   I'm unit 210 hands hi I'm Stan hands [TS]

01:17:02   uh-huh and and you know I behaved i was [TS]

01:17:05   i was the size of a comfort horse but I [TS]

01:17:07   behaved like an African cat and I but [TS]

01:17:13   but even so a product you look a little [TS]

01:17:17   bit of a of a leaping predator i'm going [TS]

01:17:20   to be an African Cats see that's just [TS]

01:17:21   how your bread you just go straight up [TS]

01:17:24   in the air huh [TS]

01:17:25   and you can catch you could catch a [TS]

01:17:27   comfort duck that was those in the [TS]

01:17:29   process of taking off we can probably [TS]

01:17:31   get a lot of small comfort animals [TS]

01:17:32   I mean there's like a 50 seconds are [TS]

01:17:35   things you get probably comfort rat or [TS]

01:17:37   it but if you were if you had enough [TS]

01:17:40   African Cats you could take down with [TS]

01:17:41   the Beast moon and i'm not talking about [TS]

01:17:44   a comfort will or something i'm talking [TS]

01:17:47   about a roar and Mellie's more [TS]

01:17:53   comforting than a small wildebeest [TS]

01:17:55   especially with has a big basket Wilbur [TS]

01:18:00   beast in a basket i know i've had the [TS]

01:18:05   name it feels the same law so soon was [TS]

01:18:10   very I felt anxious and I hardly ever [TS]

01:18:13   feel like this sounds like quite a bit [TS]

01:18:15   toxic else to for everyone involved [TS]

01:18:17   well sure because I when your mom your [TS]

01:18:19   mom's got it she's got arbitrate right [TS]

01:18:20   well she's your favorite the borzoi she [TS]

01:18:25   was able to communicate with the board [TS]

01:18:27   because the board's I borzoi bonded with [TS]

01:18:29   her as some sort of parental or at least [TS]

01:18:32   you know the the borzoi perceived my mom [TS]

01:18:34   as the feeder they did a car lauren said [TS]

01:18:36   the boy imprinted on your mom imprinted [TS]

01:18:39   on them all [TS]

01:18:39   that's right my mom would ring a bell [TS]

01:18:41   and the boards i would get the wood [TS]

01:18:43   would stand on the stool to get the [TS]

01:18:45   banana who [TS]

01:18:47   so but I can I was the first one home [TS]

01:18:50   every day right I got off of school and [TS]

01:18:53   I could transport myself and my sister [TS]

01:18:55   would just go hang out under the statue [TS]

01:18:57   of Captain Cook and smoke clove [TS]

01:18:59   cigarettes but I went home because I [TS]

01:19:03   wanted to take a nap on the on the sun [TS]

01:19:05   room couch and so I would walk in and [TS]

01:19:08   who knows what the board was doing all [TS]

01:19:09   day but then there would be this like [TS]

01:19:11   clattering hooves as it ran to find [TS]

01:19:15   shelter somewhere you know where it [TS]

01:19:18   couldn't be somewhere I guess it thought [TS]

01:19:20   that it was it was a pray for Eagles [TS]

01:19:23   because it would hide under things and [TS]

01:19:26   my icing animals that hide under things [TS]

01:19:28   are scared of eagles all that demux [TS]

01:19:32   sense right if you were hiding from a [TS]

01:19:34   cat you wouldn't hide under a bed you [TS]

01:19:36   want to go Wiegel Eagles won't dare [TS]

01:19:38   that's right now button so you go under [TS]

01:19:41   for eagles / for cats smart or what [TS]

01:19:45   about behind that's like you're being [TS]

01:19:47   attacked by a deer or Wilbur fees are [TS]

01:19:49   will feast [TS]

01:19:50   ok if you about your if Wilbur pieces in [TS]

01:19:52   your house is that comfortable for [TS]

01:19:54   East no i'm talking about the standard a [TS]

01:19:56   standard or okay you don't need to hide [TS]

01:19:59   from a comfort will feast but if you're [TS]

01:20:02   looking i think in order to in order to [TS]

01:20:04   hide from will be simple and bulls and [TS]

01:20:07   boars huh that's behind the couch [TS]

01:20:11   alright because i don't know about their [TS]

01:20:13   eyes is making about making a lot a lot [TS]

01:20:14   of sense to me [TS]

01:20:15   yeah right up for cats down for Eagles [TS]

01:20:18   behind four boards and and and and will [TS]

01:20:21   blow her face and you just want to nap [TS]

01:20:22   i'm just trying to get on the sunroom [TS]

01:20:25   count yeah 10 and and you think the dog [TS]

01:20:28   was intimidated by the thought you were [TS]

01:20:30   an eagle [TS]

01:20:30   no I just think the dog and the dog had [TS]

01:20:33   an anxiety disorder and eventually after [TS]

01:20:35   you know after nine months which in the [TS]

01:20:38   life of a teenager is a long time no God [TS]

01:20:40   and this thing got bigger and bigger [TS]

01:20:42   until it was the size of a comfort piano [TS]

01:20:44   get a comfort animal for your animal [TS]

01:20:48   because i know i saw a really sweet [TS]

01:20:50   picture of a dog that has its own [TS]

01:20:52   seeing-eye dog [TS]

01:20:53   I mean I as is a comfort all the way [TS]

01:20:55   down it can you can you keep providing [TS]

01:20:57   layers of comfort by adding adding new [TS]

01:20:59   animals to the situation to have to be [TS]

01:21:01   animals do they have to live together [TS]

01:21:02   could just be like a correspondence but [TS]

01:21:04   is there some way that that you could [TS]

01:21:05   bring in maybe an ironic animal maybe [TS]

01:21:08   you could bring in a really nice eagle [TS]

01:21:09   and it would really look first at first [TS]

01:21:11   to be really scared but then pretty soon [TS]

01:21:13   as pet Neagle you've seen the you've [TS]

01:21:16   seen the videos of the cat and the foul [TS]

01:21:18   the guy who has the only pussy cat [TS]

01:21:22   yeah that's right he has a pet owl and a [TS]

01:21:24   pet cat and they play with each other [TS]

01:21:26   the owl will swoop down huh this is a [TS]

01:21:29   this is a swoop and now this isn't like [TS]

01:21:31   a house out my it's not comfortable [TS]

01:21:33   well is it ties into your cat and [TS]

01:21:36   possible situation where you go hey you [TS]

01:21:38   know turns out it seems like these these [TS]

01:21:40   guys are going out for each other but [TS]

01:21:41   they're sitting around playing connector [TS]

01:21:42   in their underpants sure because they [TS]

01:21:44   understand that's right there in the [TS]

01:21:45   there there in the book a return of [TS]

01:21:48   animal mentality that's right so that [TS]

01:21:51   the owl swoops down and the cat leaps up [TS]

01:21:54   because they're leapers who jumps up in [TS]

01:21:56   the air to like bat at the owl and the [TS]

01:21:59   AL keeps going back and forth on purpose [TS]

01:22:02   so the cat can leap at it and they both [TS]

01:22:06   are having a merry old time [TS]

01:22:08   and then they retire together to sit and [TS]

01:22:11   groom one another all that is so sweet i [TS]

01:22:14   would love to see that [TS]

01:22:15   well I think it's on the internet okay [TS]

01:22:16   and you've seen the big dogs with the [TS]

01:22:18   little kittens Leslie this is my entire [TS]

01:22:20   day my entire day and now that my spirit [TS]

01:22:22   has been broken by this election cycle [TS]

01:22:24   all i do is look at cute animals on the [TS]

01:22:25   internet it's a pretty much all my [TS]

01:22:27   family looks at now and then tells you [TS]

01:22:29   how many cute animals on the Internet [TS]

01:22:31   oh my god saying there are a lot of cute [TS]

01:22:32   animals we did that to ourselves color i [TS]

01:22:35   know i know you need that we need it we [TS]

01:22:36   need we need our own comfort animals [TS]

01:22:38   yeah well that's exactly right where's [TS]

01:22:40   my deck we took a angry hunters who and [TS]

01:22:44   wee-wee natural natural selected them [TS]

01:22:47   who we evolution evolution eyes because [TS]

01:22:50   the hand of the the unseen hand of [TS]

01:22:52   evolution that we've located in this [TS]

01:22:54   particular sphere that we found [TS]

01:22:56   that's right now my hand and we took the [TS]

01:22:59   we took the beasts and we turn and we [TS]

01:23:01   turn them into into big-eyed doze and [TS]

01:23:06   and moo cows that give us milk and so [TS]

01:23:10   now we have an owl and pussycat [TS]

01:23:13   it's only a matter of time before they [TS]

01:23:15   figure out a way to mate and how you get [TS]

01:23:18   what you gonna do when you see one of [TS]

01:23:19   those in your barn I couldn't contain [TS]

01:23:21   what what what would you say is the [TS]

01:23:23   difference between you play D&D what you [TS]

01:23:25   see is the difference between a familiar [TS]

01:23:27   and a comfort animal do is Magic [TS]

01:23:29   required [TS]

01:23:30   i I really really really want to the [TS]

01:23:36   familiar i could see that well in any in [TS]

01:23:38   the course of trying to make an orb it [TS]

01:23:40   seems like maybe having a cat that you [TS]

01:23:42   can talk to might be useful [TS]

01:23:44   I feel like a familiar is somewhat under [TS]

01:23:46   your either under your direction or at [TS]

01:23:51   least you're able to consult with it [TS]

01:23:53   ok I'm looking over here so if you had a [TS]

01:23:55   capuchin monkey that could put your food [TS]

01:23:57   in a microwave oven and spend cook it [TS]

01:24:00   okay that's that's getting pretty close [TS]

01:24:03   too familiar like I said today we might [TS]

01:24:05   call that a helper monkey helper monkey [TS]

01:24:07   is I feel like getting into the familiar [TS]

01:24:10   zone [TS]

01:24:11   ok if you're just feeding and petting [TS]

01:24:13   the thing that's more of a blow fieldcat [TS]

01:24:16   ok so we've identified you have an [TS]

01:24:18   animal in the wild might like a will [TS]

01:24:21   feast [TS]

01:24:21   you've got you get animals in the wild [TS]

01:24:23   you got animals that have been [TS]

01:24:24   domesticated for work you have animals [TS]

01:24:27   that are domesticated for pet things [TS]

01:24:29   you've got animals that can be at from [TS]

01:24:32   one of those things i guess you pivot [TS]

01:24:34   and you convert them to I guess what [TS]

01:24:36   comfort animal [TS]

01:24:37   yeah but then you also have helper once [TS]

01:24:39   now would it be ethical to have two [TS]

01:24:43   horses in your house one of which is a [TS]

01:24:45   helper horse and one of which is a [TS]

01:24:47   familiar and just for fun throwing a [TS]

01:24:49   third what if you get a third one is [TS]

01:24:50   even cuter that's a pet [TS]

01:24:52   ok when they get along should they get [TS]

01:24:54   along do they sleep in different baskets [TS]

01:24:56   I don't feel like a comfort animal is [TS]

01:24:59   much aid to you other than being [TS]

01:25:01   friendly [TS]

01:25:03   although and asking to make you eggs I [TS]

01:25:06   wouldn't i wouldn't say like comfort [TS]

01:25:08   animal can you get up on that high shelf [TS]

01:25:10   and bring me down that chachki ok bring [TS]

01:25:12   me down the jar of sugar [TS]

01:25:14   bring me that sword bring me the sword [TS]

01:25:15   from the sword basket comfort beast I [TS]

01:25:19   would not ask that [TS]

01:25:20   and yet even the niceness I think is a [TS]

01:25:26   is called into question by the presence [TS]

01:25:28   of a comfort turkey because i do not [TS]

01:25:30   believe that turkey can be nice [TS]

01:25:32   turkeys are pretty mean-spirited they're [TS]

01:25:34   mean and i don't think that a turkey has [TS]

01:25:36   the capacity to be nice [TS]

01:25:38   whatever part of the brain locates the [TS]

01:25:41   niceness whatever lies they are located [TS]

01:25:44   yeah within the spirit of the brain of [TS]

01:25:45   an animal the truck is missing that part [TS]

01:25:47   of the brain [TS]

01:25:48   okay so apparently a confidence is [TS]

01:25:50   nothing and non-existence fear part that [TS]

01:25:52   we would think of as being like in [TS]

01:25:54   necessarily familiar could still be a [TS]

01:25:56   familiar it would not it could be a pet [TS]

01:25:58   faked it but it's not going to be [TS]

01:26:00   comforting and certainly will make you [TS]

01:26:01   eggs i think the comfort animal is a [TS]

01:26:03   vessel into which you prove that you [TS]

01:26:06   project your desire for comfort you your [TS]

01:26:10   desire to be comforted when the animal [TS]

01:26:13   reflects your desire to be comfortable [TS]

01:26:15   for comforted back to use a cipher so [TS]

01:26:18   it's right here you're looking at the [TS]

01:26:19   turkey and if you see if you seek [TS]

01:26:21   comfort in the turkey it is prima facie [TS]

01:26:23   CAA comfort turkey for seasonal whatever [TS]

01:26:27   you find comforting is comfortable [TS]

01:26:30   proceed [TS]

01:26:31   small you could have a comfort waste [TS]

01:26:33   basket right if you bought up if you [TS]

01:26:36   bought an extra ticket for a seat on an [TS]

01:26:38   airplane for a wastebasket [TS]

01:26:40   okay wait we were events it could [TS]

01:26:43   fulfill that role [TS]

01:26:45   mhm what is the largest comfort animal [TS]

01:26:48   you would personally feel comfortable [TS]

01:26:50   how do I put this what's the largest [TS]

01:26:52   comfort animal you would be willing to [TS]

01:26:54   take on a plane I assuming let's assume [TS]

01:26:57   that you know what let's get let's [TS]

01:26:59   assume economy plus right [TS]

01:27:02   is that fair yeah uh what about a [TS]

01:27:04   comfort Sal now salads a big male hog me [TS]

01:27:09   right i think it sounds a big female [TS]

01:27:11   it's a big ladyhawke lady hog here's the [TS]

01:27:14   question at something I don't know about [TS]

01:27:16   hogs can hog sit in a chair with these [TS]

01:27:20   slips it if you put hog on its butt and [TS]

01:27:24   melt it in a hall would sit comfortably [TS]

01:27:27   candidates architecture support itself [TS]

01:27:29   sitting on it has little holes in his [TS]

01:27:31   lap yeah writer or maybe the way that [TS]

01:27:35   they're built the homes would just be [TS]

01:27:36   sticking straight out maybe you'd have [TS]

01:27:38   to put the tray down it can put the [TS]

01:27:40   hub's top top hooves on the tray right [TS]

01:27:42   right and then it's like you pull the [TS]

01:27:44   curly tail under ok little tip of the [TS]

01:27:47   curly tail sticking out probably in [TS]

01:27:49   orthopedics eat that can accommodate a [TS]

01:27:50   curly tail but what happens what if what [TS]

01:27:53   happens when one more of us exercise our [TS]

01:27:55   right to put a vest on animal and bring [TS]

01:27:56   it on a plane [TS]

01:27:57   what happens when we get into something [TS]

01:27:59   a little more as John syracuse it's a [TS]

01:28:01   Darwinian like what happens if one [TS]

01:28:04   person has a comfort eagle and the other [TS]

01:28:06   person has a comfort boards away or a [TS]

01:28:08   comfort rabbit comfort comfort rep like [TS]

01:28:11   what if you got what you got an allen [TS]

01:28:12   the rabbit and a rabbit in the two aisle [TS]

01:28:14   seats across from each other [TS]

01:28:16   cool do we do we expect that they're [TS]

01:28:19   just gonna leave each other alone [TS]

01:28:20   because they got the best and they know [TS]

01:28:21   what the deal is [TS]

01:28:22   mmm [TS]

01:28:22   mmm has lost a lot to ask john are you [TS]

01:28:25   introducing a problem right and fouls [TS]

01:28:27   not going to be friends with a rabbit [TS]

01:28:28   let's just stipulate that and of course [TS]

01:28:31   you're going to give your comfort animal [TS]

01:28:32   the aisle seat [TS]

01:28:34   I think center if it's a helper animal [TS]

01:28:36   you wanted in the island probably a [TS]

01:28:37   little introverted you probably like to [TS]

01:28:38   have the window so yeah right whatever [TS]

01:28:42   you have comfort animals John sure he [TS]

01:28:46   was happy and my must happen [TS]

01:28:48   statistically and i think almost [TS]

01:28:50   everyone has a comfort animal so i would [TS]

01:28:52   have to imagine we've now gotten to that [TS]

01:28:54   point like homosexuality and veganism [TS]

01:28:56   where it's crossing broad spectrum of [TS]

01:28:58   the sphere removing way beyond this [TS]

01:29:00   quarter that quarter this Venn diagram [TS]

01:29:02   now more and more people are going to [TS]

01:29:04   find comfort in animal and let's be [TS]

01:29:06   honest it's good for the airline [TS]

01:29:07   industry lot of times they can't fill [TS]

01:29:08   those seats [TS]

01:29:09   that's right you might find they're [TS]

01:29:10   gonna charge you full price if you bring [TS]

01:29:12   a salad on an airplane they're gonna [TS]

01:29:13   charge you full price [TS]

01:29:14   absolutely and I think if you want to [TS]

01:29:16   check a bag maybe 75 bucks [TS]

01:29:18   my sense is that there are comfort their [TS]

01:29:21   actual comfort animals that are actually [TS]

01:29:22   providing needed comfort to people who [TS]

01:29:25   need comforting and then there are fake [TS]

01:29:28   comfort animals that are the comfort [TS]

01:29:31   animals that you are kind of reply or [TS]

01:29:33   referring I want you to get all the [TS]

01:29:35   email for this but it's my understanding [TS]

01:29:37   that this has actually become a problem [TS]

01:29:39   when i'm not saying any of this is right [TS]

01:29:42   wrong or whatever I honestly don't want [TS]

01:29:43   to get involved but it's my [TS]

01:29:44   understanding that a lot of people are [TS]

01:29:45   making vests at home because they want [TS]

01:29:48   the pen on the plane [TS]

01:29:49   yes right i mean it's like so we talked [TS]

01:29:52   about this i think even last week the [TS]

01:29:54   testing of your child to see if they are [TS]

01:29:56   gifted who do we talked about this last [TS]

01:30:00   week we talked about previously the [TS]

01:30:01   efforts that should be in some program [TS]

01:30:03   with an acronym right that's right if [TS]

01:30:05   your if your child needs to be in a [TS]

01:30:06   program with an acronym and they get [TS]

01:30:09   tested to see if they qualify and so [TS]

01:30:13   they sent us an email saying a do you [TS]

01:30:15   want to have your child tested and we [TS]

01:30:17   said yes and then they immediately wrote [TS]

01:30:21   back and said you're testing is sunday [TS]

01:30:23   morning at 7am October row 28 and we or [TS]

01:30:28   whatever and yeah I follow that and we [TS]

01:30:30   said what when we said yeah I guess so [TS]

01:30:34   we didn't know that [TS]

01:30:35   and that we were supposed to report [TS]

01:30:37   somewhere for an sa80 test for a [TS]

01:30:38   five-year-old little presumptuous and [TS]

01:30:41   right and what kind of I mean they can't [TS]

01:30:43   right you're not going to give them a [TS]

01:30:44   thing that says pick the pic which wich [TS]

01:30:48   example doesn't fit with the others [TS]

01:30:49   this is how they picked the Dalai Lama [TS]

01:30:51   they might take him out too like I like [TS]

01:30:52   a picnic put some things on a blanket [TS]

01:30:54   you know if you pick up the ride altoids [TS]

01:30:57   you know you grab the right set of you [TS]

01:30:59   know USB headphones that that's how do I [TS]

01:31:01   know that you're the next gifted child [TS]

01:31:03   yeah then so then a monk throws some [TS]

01:31:05   confetti in the air and they're like its [TS]

01:31:07   you write the white smoke comes out of [TS]

01:31:09   the mark [TS]

01:31:10   mhm but in this case we we were startled [TS]

01:31:13   by this and we talked to some other [TS]

01:31:15   parents well it's so here's the [TS]

01:31:17   anecdotes up we talked to two different [TS]

01:31:20   people who said we had our child tested [TS]

01:31:24   and they didn't get into the gifted [TS]

01:31:26   program so we hired an independent [TS]

01:31:29   tester and in the Seattle School [TS]

01:31:32   District I guess you have to have your [TS]

01:31:34   child tested by the city first but if [TS]

01:31:38   your child doesn't pass the city test [TS]

01:31:40   you are able to hire a private tester to [TS]

01:31:44   verify the city's findings and in both [TS]

01:31:47   cases [TS]

01:31:48   wow the parents whose child did not get [TS]

01:31:52   into the gifted program when they were [TS]

01:31:53   tested at five years old to see if they [TS]

01:31:55   were gifted then hired an independent [TS]

01:31:57   tester and guess what i'm going to guess [TS]

01:31:59   that that child turned out to be gifted [TS]

01:32:01   that's exactly right the independent for [TS]

01:32:03   higher tester determined that the city [TS]

01:32:05   was mistaken and their child was in fact [TS]

01:32:08   gifted to get a vest at that point on I [TS]

01:32:09   think they do get they get what they get [TS]

01:32:12   to get a Robin Hood hat [TS]

01:32:13   oh that's doesn't that's a nice hat yeah [TS]

01:32:15   the show some way to distinguish the man [TS]

01:32:18   I'm just gonna be honest with you off [TS]

01:32:19   the record this to me says going to jam [TS]

01:32:21   ups this to me sounds like a who's who [TS]

01:32:23   among american high school students like [TS]

01:32:26   they're going to get you to catch out [TS]

01:32:26   that we got a live one here they want [TS]

01:32:28   the testing is going to get a lot of [TS]

01:32:30   weird male well and respect you might [TS]

01:32:32   want to use a fake name [TS]

01:32:33   I hit it seems to me that if you can [TS]

01:32:37   test if you can pay to have your child [TS]

01:32:39   tested into this program then it is just [TS]

01:32:41   a place where [TS]

01:32:42   like busybody rich people are are [TS]

01:32:47   putting their kids have no like it's a [TS]

01:32:48   vest mill yeah no longer seems exactly [TS]

01:32:51   printing you go in there you want a vest [TS]

01:32:53   will make you a vest [TS]

01:32:54   that's right you're a novelist now hey [TS]

01:32:56   somebody to do to copy and paste your [TS]

01:32:59   book into something [TS]

01:33:00   mike is so we decided as a family last [TS]

01:33:02   night that we were not going to go to [TS]

01:33:06   this test that our child was going to [TS]

01:33:08   the public schools and let the chips [TS]

01:33:10   fall because this all sounds Bologna and [TS]

01:33:14   no thanks no good for you I I you know [TS]

01:33:18   for what it's worth I think you did the [TS]

01:33:19   right thing because look at what do you [TS]

01:33:21   suppose what you're gonna get like if [TS]

01:33:23   they are gifted what changes [TS]

01:33:25   yeah well they go over to a special [TS]

01:33:26   place where they get to play with you [TS]

01:33:28   know where they get to make origami [TS]

01:33:30   swans Hoover trains to get to make [TS]

01:33:35   cranes probably when I was in the gifted [TS]

01:33:37   program in fourth grade in seattle which [TS]

01:33:40   was called The Dig program the acronym [TS]

01:33:43   stood for damn interesting a gadfly who [TS]

01:33:48   I don't remember what it stood for but [TS]

01:33:50   we may actually taught us to use slide [TS]

01:33:52   rules because it was the move was the [TS]

01:33:56   last gasp the dying day of the slide [TS]

01:33:59   uh-huh and they talked to a bunch of [TS]

01:34:01   fourth graders to you slide rules which [TS]

01:34:03   was obsolete before they were they were [TS]

01:34:05   they found me slide rules in a dumpster [TS]

01:34:08   behind the the jet propulsion laboratory [TS]

01:34:11   and which was you know they they all had [TS]

01:34:14   digital calculators at that point they [TS]

01:34:15   were like what are we going to do with [TS]

01:34:16   these let's give them two gifted kids [TS]

01:34:17   and see what they make and you know if [TS]

01:34:20   they left us alone for three more [TS]

01:34:21   minutes we would have made a like a [TS]

01:34:24   toothpick Eiffel Tower out of these [TS]

01:34:25   slide rules but in fact they had [TS]

01:34:28   somebody come in and teach us how to use [TS]

01:34:29   I couldn't use one now I think we get [TS]

01:34:31   you and I could slam dunk this today if [TS]

01:34:33   we got the resources we got your mom [TS]

01:34:34   behind it's got some help from her i [TS]

01:34:36   think that we go a little way beyond [TS]

01:34:38   montessori i do we go basically we get [TS]

01:34:39   the cheapest building we thought maybe [TS]

01:34:41   the place you're being used to practice [TS]

01:34:42   by the hugo house maybe you can get that [TS]

01:34:43   back [TS]

01:34:44   we got that because of one room [TS]

01:34:45   schoolhouse and here's what you get Yuki [TS]

01:34:46   bring your kid in and what we have we [TS]

01:34:48   have we have encyclopedias we've got [TS]

01:34:51   atlases yeah and we got her for horses [TS]

01:34:54   and that's the schedule a [TS]

01:34:56   and you you have to test into this [TS]

01:34:57   program i don't know i'm not sure how [TS]

01:34:59   you would get you definitely the best [TS]

01:35:00   but you come in and and basically you [TS]

01:35:03   just you read through the Encyclopedia [TS]

01:35:05   all day long if you don't get dictionary [TS]

01:35:06   go look it up in the dictionary [TS]

01:35:08   we got atlases and then periodically you [TS]

01:35:10   going to comforted by a horse so their [TS]

01:35:11   horses small horses just milling around [TS]

01:35:14   in the room where the shelves are just [TS]

01:35:17   full of atlases and encyclopedia of [TS]

01:35:19   course of course and and you know if you [TS]

01:35:21   don't get an education in there somehow [TS]

01:35:23   forget it [TS]

01:35:24   you don't deserve to be a given that [TS]

01:35:25   vest [TS]

01:35:31   further [TS]