Roderick on the Line

Ep. 219: "It's an Off Day"


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00:00:29   hello hi John I'm Merlin how's it going [TS]

00:00:33   oh my goodness yeah [TS]

00:00:37   oh but what I mean who [TS]

00:00:42   Oh mm oh I last night was laying in bed [TS]

00:00:51   i went to bed early [TS]

00:00:52   1010 p.m. i was in bed covers up under [TS]

00:00:57   my nose [TS]

00:00:58   mm and I started to play my little game [TS]

00:01:05   on my phone telephone game your phone [TS]

00:01:10   came here it's a game i've had for a [TS]

00:01:13   long time [TS]

00:01:14   it's a little bit of a like a gym game [TS]

00:01:17   you know once you move that i haven't [TS]

00:01:21   played this but they're very popular [TS]

00:01:21   movies with some fruit or or some jewels [TS]

00:01:25   yeah and we'd each other line em up move [TS]

00:01:27   em yeah you line them up who I was on an [TS]

00:01:30   airplane one-time long time ago flying [TS]

00:01:34   outlook a great distance and I looked [TS]

00:01:35   over at some passenger sitting on the [TS]

00:01:39   aisle seats you know one or two rows up [TS]

00:01:41   and he was playing the gym game he was [TS]

00:01:46   lining is lining up James and I said [TS]

00:01:49   well that seems like a fun diversion so [TS]

00:01:53   I i acquired the the gym game I've been [TS]

00:01:57   lining up gems for some time now but [TS]

00:02:00   there were several as you know on some [TS]

00:02:03   of these games there were several other [TS]

00:02:04   options for gameplay with me so far I [TS]

00:02:09   think so I mean so yeah I mean you so is [TS]

00:02:14   this kind of thing where you get an eel [TS]

00:02:15   and gives you more mario coins or [TS]

00:02:17   something [TS]

00:02:18   no no you long to put you log upon LBA [TS]

00:02:21   the game uh-huh and it says do you want [TS]

00:02:24   to play the the standard game or do you [TS]

00:02:28   want to play octopus party or do you [TS]

00:02:32   want to play doing place a a gem delight [TS]

00:02:38   mmm [TS]

00:02:38   for the gnomes in the mine they describe [TS]

00:02:42   how that didn't make the game different [TS]

00:02:43   John no no they don't they don't say [TS]

00:02:46   there's an octopus party over there you [TS]

00:02:47   should check it out [TS]

00:02:48   that's right they leave it to you and so [TS]

00:02:51   you know since I'm a traditionalist I [TS]

00:02:53   never chose octopus party [TS]

00:02:56   what does that have to do with James [TS]

00:02:57   right we have to do with lining up James [TS]

00:02:59   but a few days ago I i went to a i was [TS]

00:03:07   looking at my gym game and I said maybe [TS]

00:03:09   a little variation in the gym game maybe [TS]

00:03:11   i will try octopus party in this case i [TS]

00:03:15   picked gnome mine which made sense when [TS]

00:03:21   you're my mining James is the premise I [TS]

00:03:24   think who wear the gems come from [TS]

00:03:26   they're lining up standing why yeah why [TS]

00:03:29   is the game not called rotterdam jeweler [TS]

00:03:32   who write that they had rotterdam [TS]

00:03:34   jeweler I would've played a long time [TS]

00:03:36   ago encouraging you to explore beyond [TS]

00:03:39   the superficial level of the gem lining [TS]

00:03:42   let's think about where this comes from [TS]

00:03:43   haha yeah thank you put a historical a [TS]

00:03:46   spin on it and I think a lot of us out [TS]

00:03:49   here playing our gym games would say [TS]

00:03:52   right i will i will do rotterdam jeweler [TS]

00:03:56   i will do [TS]

00:03:57   DeBeers vice president uh-huh uh-huh [TS]

00:04:00   yeah yeah guyana chucker look you could [TS]

00:04:04   you get you get you get Ruby digger [TS]

00:04:07   write something that connects you can [TS]

00:04:10   really get your hands back into the [TS]

00:04:11   earth [TS]

00:04:12   yeah good you wanted let's be honest [TS]

00:04:13   even if it's a Middle earth it should be [TS]

00:04:16   a middle earth that's one of the key is [TS]

00:04:18   one of the key sources of gems [TS]

00:04:20   middle-earth who the mines of moria em [TS]

00:04:24   anyway so this this game has got these [TS]

00:04:28   that you know it's like octopus card and [TS]

00:04:29   I don't want that but I do go to know [TS]

00:04:32   mine and edited variation on the games [TS]

00:04:36   very appealing [TS]

00:04:37   it's set to a timer instead of two to [TS]

00:04:42   some other level of achievement or kind [TS]

00:04:45   of achievement and so now i'm rich i [TS]

00:04:48   have a renewed interest in it [TS]

00:04:50   anyway i went to bed at ten started [TS]

00:04:54   playing no mind at one-thirty my Fitbit [TS]

00:05:00   which I have programmed to think that it [TS]

00:05:04   knows me i told my fit but i like to go [TS]

00:05:08   to bed at two in the morning at one [TS]

00:05:10   thirty in the morning fit said time to [TS]

00:05:12   get ready to go to bed and I said [TS]

00:05:15   tut-tut you Fitbit you're not my nanny [TS]

00:05:20   I'm Way ahead i'm already in bed i'm in [TS]

00:05:23   bed [TS]

00:05:23   that's right I'm ready 50 i'm in bed I'm [TS]

00:05:26   just I'm just diverting myself and my [TS]

00:05:29   attention a little bit before i go to [TS]

00:05:30   sleep by lining up some gems when I [TS]

00:05:34   finally have had enough lining up James [TS]

00:05:37   it is five thirty in the morning from [TS]

00:05:40   10pm til 530 in the morning i lined up [TS]

00:05:44   James fruitlessly for no betterment of [TS]

00:05:48   myself for mankind seven-and-a-half [TS]

00:05:53   hours i could have flown to do by John [TS]

00:05:56   not not literally not from here too much [TS]

00:05:58   longer flight but I could I could have [TS]

00:06:00   not only flown to Honolulu but taking a [TS]

00:06:03   cab to the airport had a refreshing nap [TS]

00:06:06   and che dice I could have had a shave [TS]

00:06:09   ice [TS]

00:06:10   I could be sitting under the banyan tree [TS]

00:06:11   at the Royal Hawaiian hotel listening to [TS]

00:06:15   some luau music sometimes really puts [TS]

00:06:18   the context you know in the time that [TS]

00:06:20   I've been stacking gems so many things [TS]

00:06:24   could have happened i could work a full [TS]

00:06:26   day at work up you know assuming that [TS]

00:06:29   i'm going to slack off the first and [TS]

00:06:31   last 15 minutes of full day of work [TS]

00:06:33   yeah so I'm embarrassed I wouldn't be as [TS]

00:06:39   embarrassed as I as I am now having just [TS]

00:06:41   told it to everyone you know but I'm [TS]

00:06:43   also exhausted from lack of sleep I have [TS]

00:06:46   things to do today so you can see my you [TS]

00:06:50   can see my conundrum [TS]

00:06:51   oh it's a variety of chondrocytes a [TS]

00:06:54   basket of conundrum [TS]

00:06:55   oh I'm sorry John have any insight into [TS]

00:07:00   this condition [TS]

00:07:01   yeah yeah I do i do I do [TS]

00:07:04   yeah I think sometimes I I think of it [TS]

00:07:10   as the way when you're trying to catch [TS]

00:07:12   fish you want to get the get the hook in [TS]

00:07:13   you know what I mean like me could you [TS]

00:07:16   could be fucking around and throwing [TS]

00:07:17   your line and and and based on your hook [TS]

00:07:20   but it doesn't really but sometimes the [TS]

00:07:22   hook gets in and in this case I think we [TS]

00:07:24   don't always realize when the hook is in [TS]

00:07:26   and even when it is in there's still [TS]

00:07:28   some kind of different part of your [TS]

00:07:29   brain that's that's that's saying hey [TS]

00:07:31   this is important fishing you're doing [TS]

00:07:32   here [TS]

00:07:33   yeah you want to get the hook it right [TS]

00:07:34   okay I'm with you yeah so which so which [TS]

00:07:38   is which mi the fish is the game the [TS]

00:07:42   fish where the hook is getting in which [TS]

00:07:46   which one is the fish in which that's a [TS]

00:07:49   really good at that word that Spinoza I [TS]

00:07:51   don't know what that would be that's [TS]

00:07:52   really that's a really good question [TS]

00:07:54   Barkley I that's a very good question [TS]

00:07:57   John now it seems like you really think [TS]

00:08:00   about your basket of conundrum [TS]

00:08:01   you've got on the one hand you seen like [TS]

00:08:04   something something something was [TS]

00:08:08   pleasing to you or satisfying about this [TS]

00:08:11   game and everything seemed copacetic for [TS]

00:08:14   a while right [TS]

00:08:15   so sometimes when I think about these [TS]

00:08:17   things for myself and I just want to say [TS]

00:08:18   I you know what I'm gonna share your [TS]

00:08:19   shame i'm going to unburden you by [TS]

00:08:22   saying i do this kind of bullshit all [TS]

00:08:23   the time I have an awareness of when it [TS]

00:08:25   began and then I'm covered with shame [TS]

00:08:27   when it ends when I'm up sometimes very [TS]

00:08:29   sketchy on what happened in between [TS]

00:08:31   apart from the fact my phone is now at [TS]

00:08:33   three percent I'm exhausted uh-huh and I [TS]

00:08:36   i just cut this out i do not want to [TS]

00:08:38   talk about the election but I don't want [TS]

00:08:41   to talk about the election [TS]

00:08:42   wow you're I really don't want to talk [TS]

00:08:44   about the election but i have been a [TS]

00:08:46   nervous wreck for the past I i I'm i I'm [TS]

00:08:51   no max Temkin but I am a nervous wreck [TS]

00:08:53   about this and I have been reloading web [TS]

00:08:56   pages to this 100 menu [TS]

00:08:59   you know me right thing that I do I know [TS]

00:09:02   general guy who removed the tab full of [TS]

00:09:04   news bookmarks I invented that i [TS]

00:09:07   invented not caring about the news [TS]

00:09:09   no you don't do that you don't have any [TS]

00:09:11   load the news and I'm sitting there with [TS]

00:09:14   the 538 [TS]

00:09:16   the polls only and how many path to [TS]

00:09:18   victory and I fucking ate myself [TS]

00:09:21   oh don't do it just keeps happening and [TS]

00:09:25   then at the same time I I got you know [TS]

00:09:28   i'm going to go all the way I'm going to [TS]

00:09:29   go all the way down to the bottom of the [TS]

00:09:30   nomes here's my problem I i can feel [TS]

00:09:35   that I'm getting better at threes after [TS]

00:09:38   like two years but my score is not [TS]

00:09:40   getting any higher [TS]

00:09:43   oh you're on the plateau you're on the [TS]

00:09:45   plateau and one day you're gonna have a [TS]

00:09:46   leap you're going to be so much you're [TS]

00:09:48   going to just leap ahead you're going to [TS]

00:09:49   be at your make seventy thousand points [TS]

00:09:51   one day I I honestly I don't know what's [TS]

00:09:54   gonna happen at this point I'm at sixes [TS]

00:09:56   and sevens with threes [TS]

00:09:57   yeah here's my tragedy and i have for [TS]

00:10:01   some newer listeners they don't remember [TS]

00:10:02   the the many conversations we've had [TS]

00:10:04   about the great phone game threes but i [TS]

00:10:08   have introduced my daughter 230 no [TS]

00:10:10   kidding [TS]

00:10:11   and she had smoked one of the very few [TS]

00:10:13   video games ever seen and she really is [TS]

00:10:18   fascinated and very proud of her [TS]

00:10:22   accomplishments it isn't clear yet [TS]

00:10:26   whether she 100-percent understands the [TS]

00:10:30   difference between scoring 20 500 and [TS]

00:10:34   600 she seems equally proud of both [TS]

00:10:37   accomplishments and she would love to [TS]

00:10:40   talk about this i would love to talk [TS]

00:10:41   about a child strategy for for not only [TS]

00:10:43   waiting on a child strategy for playing [TS]

00:10:45   three is because it's very difficult for [TS]

00:10:46   me to watch up my daughter seems to [TS]

00:10:50   think it's all about how quickly she can [TS]

00:10:52   move as if I just keep going up left up [TS]

00:10:54   left up left i get a really good school [TS]

00:10:55   and so I'm you know I'm not really sure [TS]

00:10:58   and yet our scores are almost as good as [TS]

00:10:59   mine [TS]

00:11:00   yeah they're better i think that's a [TS]

00:11:01   good strategy you know you've heard [TS]

00:11:02   overthinking it [TS]

00:11:03   you've heard of the version of playing [TS]

00:11:05   three is where the goal is to get a [TS]

00:11:07   smaller score [TS]

00:11:08   oh I I don't know if that's the thing [TS]

00:11:10   but i'm pretty good at that I got it is [TS]

00:11:12   i got 400 the other day if it is it is a [TS]

00:11:15   version of that game like chaff who you [TS]

00:11:17   know its competitive with your friends [TS]

00:11:19   like all right everybody trying to get [TS]

00:11:21   the lowest score 3 is go [TS]

00:11:22   yeah like you know you don't you don't [TS]

00:11:23   know from shame yeah [TS]

00:11:25   I so let me ask you this [TS]

00:11:29   whereas you were refreshing 538 m did [TS]

00:11:33   you take did you take some time to [TS]

00:11:36   obsess over hurricane Matthew know it [TS]

00:11:39   was just getting in my way [TS]

00:11:40   oh wow I was just getting my way with [TS]

00:11:42   with on the google news huh yeah I don't [TS]

00:11:46   come at i'll learn from you a long time [TS]

00:11:48   ago that following the news a fool's [TS]

00:11:50   errand and that any news worth knowing [TS]

00:11:54   can can wait until the weekly digest you [TS]

00:11:58   really feel like you really learned that [TS]

00:11:59   from me [TS]

00:12:00   yeah oh my gosh John that makes me feel [TS]

00:12:01   so good ya know I'd say it's it's it's a [TS]

00:12:04   great strategy for example I want to [TS]

00:12:07   bask in this four minutes I mean thank [TS]

00:12:09   you i'm humbled by that because I think [TS]

00:12:11   of you as a learned man [TS]

00:12:12   mm uu dribble it out in dribs and drabs [TS]

00:12:15   you through people's you know what you [TS]

00:12:17   like you like Milton Berle I'll take [TS]

00:12:18   just enough to beat you haha me [TS]

00:12:21   oh hello showgirl hmm no I'm so but i [TS]

00:12:26   think if you learned man but i also know [TS]

00:12:28   that we share fishhooks yeah well but i [TS]

00:12:31   but I i was on the news cycle for many [TS]

00:12:34   years and and also making the classic [TS]

00:12:37   error of thinking that being a [TS]

00:12:40   up-to-the-minute was a was your [TS]

00:12:44   responsibility as a citizen but i just i [TS]

00:12:49   have more of a more of a Pony Express [TS]

00:12:52   feeling about the news now you know like [TS]

00:12:57   if it can if it it doesn't need to get [TS]

00:13:00   faster it doesn't need to get to you [TS]

00:13:02   faster than if it came by a stagecoach [TS]

00:13:05   right i think so you're using a kind of [TS]

00:13:11   is an analogy [TS]

00:13:12   well I mean he let his here's the thing [TS]

00:13:14   you don't need to be there's a certain [TS]

00:13:17   kind of sport [TS]

00:13:18   oh god I hate myself there's a certain [TS]

00:13:20   kind of sport [TS]

00:13:22   maybe started watching Twitter while the [TS]

00:13:26   debate is going on [TS]

00:13:27   yeah there is because it feels like you [TS]

00:13:29   have to i made my poor daughter watch a [TS]

00:13:32   90-minute flaming shit show about pussy [TS]

00:13:36   grabbing last night because I was like [TS]

00:13:37   this is important [TS]

00:13:39   oh my goodness yeah yeah she always [TS]

00:13:41   deeply it's so deeply unimportant i I've [TS]

00:13:44   gone on record as saying the last debate [TS]

00:13:46   of any kind i watched was uh was Lloyd [TS]

00:13:51   Bentsen vs dan quayle uh-huh and and [TS]

00:13:55   that was during the sport debate years [TS]

00:13:57   where you sit with your friends and and [TS]

00:13:59   you throw beer on each other as you jump [TS]

00:14:01   up and go wow [TS]

00:14:04   and we were there together it's like [TS]

00:14:07   it's like watching basketball with white [TS]

00:14:08   people [TS]

00:14:09   yeah we were there when lloyd bentsen [TS]

00:14:11   said you're no jack kennedy and and it [TS]

00:14:14   felt like you know watching in real-time [TS]

00:14:16   felt like I had seen the Berlin Wall [TS]

00:14:18   come down because for the rest of my [TS]

00:14:20   life i was going to be in situations [TS]

00:14:22   where someone would say usually me would [TS]

00:14:26   say you're no jack kennedy and it's my [TS]

00:14:29   first day at this is your first day and [TS]

00:14:32   watch all my good as I should have said [TS]

00:14:33   that to him [TS]

00:14:34   user no Jack Kennedy but no one [TS]

00:14:37   it's not reference anymore except other [TS]

00:14:39   olds and but but through this election [TS]

00:14:44   cycle i know that nothing is going to [TS]

00:14:46   turn on a dime [TS]

00:14:47   I do not need to know the ins and outs [TS]

00:14:52   the ups and downs and if you did if you [TS]

00:14:54   did know the s2 your point if you didn't [TS]

00:14:56   know the ins and outs [TS]

00:14:57   like what would that change in what I'm [TS]

00:14:59   doing the world has change anything and [TS]

00:15:01   full disclosure I did not watch the UH [TS]

00:15:05   or listen to the pussy grabbing video [TS]

00:15:08   incident because guess what I knew [TS]

00:15:11   exactly what it sounded like [TS]

00:15:13   I'm what it actually is worse when you [TS]

00:15:15   listen to it but even so like that i [TS]

00:15:19   don't need it in my head you know like [TS]

00:15:20   the worst part about watching the news [TS]

00:15:22   right now is anytime you anytime you dig [TS]

00:15:26   at all into the war in Syria you turn a [TS]

00:15:30   corner which you know you're you're [TS]

00:15:33   following the war in Syria and you feel [TS]

00:15:35   it to your response [TS]

00:15:36   its ability to to to bear witness at [TS]

00:15:38   least as much as like our government [TS]

00:15:41   isn't really performing to use worldwide [TS]

00:15:44   nobody's doing anything because nobody [TS]

00:15:46   knows what to do except the Russians who [TS]

00:15:47   feel like what they should do is kill [TS]

00:15:49   people they have focused oh you got it [TS]

00:15:50   you got your hand to it really well we [TS]

00:15:52   got all these guns and bombs and then [TS]

00:15:54   you are not using them enough i wish we [TS]

00:15:56   had went from that way because nuclear [TS]

00:15:57   weapons when we use them [TS]

00:15:59   why don't we use them just about it in [TS]

00:16:01   there we paid for the bottom paid for [TS]

00:16:02   that's very provocation what you just [TS]

00:16:05   said Jesus if you were running for [TS]

00:16:06   president I would i think that would end [TS]

00:16:08   up in the newspaper you consider it to [TS]

00:16:09   be disqualifying John uh who knows [TS]

00:16:12   anymore [TS]

00:16:13   oh my face hurts but up but if you're [TS]

00:16:16   following the war in Syria it doesn't [TS]

00:16:18   take long for you to turn a corner open [TS]

00:16:20   a door and you're staring at pictures of [TS]

00:16:23   dead babies [TS]

00:16:24   it's like there are so many children [TS]

00:16:25   being killed in that war that and then [TS]

00:16:28   yeah that's not stuff you get out of [TS]

00:16:30   here out of your mind and the question [TS]

00:16:32   is at mi bearing witness to this in a [TS]

00:16:35   way that's useful to humanity is it my [TS]

00:16:39   obligation to see a certain number of [TS]

00:16:41   dead children every day or two in order [TS]

00:16:44   to perform my duties as a world as a [TS]

00:16:48   world citizen or or not because that's [TS]

00:16:53   very damaging you know it's it's [TS]

00:16:55   psychically damaging and there's I'm [TS]

00:16:58   sure plenty of arguments that it's much [TS]

00:17:01   more damaging to be in Syria and have [TS]

00:17:03   your children killed in a in a smart [TS]

00:17:05   bomb or a dumb bomb [TS]

00:17:07   yeah but what what am I contributing uh [TS]

00:17:11   what am I contributing and anyway i'm [TS]

00:17:15   i'm mostly off of the news treadmill I [TS]

00:17:18   Eileen in periodic that you know I'm [TS]

00:17:21   like a like a like a black lab I leaned [TS]

00:17:24   my head out the window [TS]

00:17:25   I stick my tongue out I taste the the [TS]

00:17:29   particulate I taste the microscopic [TS]

00:17:33   urine particulate of 400 raccoons [TS]

00:17:37   whoo that my sensitive tongue reads that [TS]

00:17:41   you're in particulate and knows [TS]

00:17:43   something about the forest and about the [TS]

00:17:47   and about the world at large but then I [TS]

00:17:49   pull my dumb dog head back in the car [TS]

00:17:52   and I and I and I use my tongue to to [TS]

00:17:57   feel the particular of the [TS]

00:17:58   air-conditioning anyway I way those two [TS]

00:18:01   universes and it's like it's like I'm in [TS]

00:18:04   like I'm in the car for the most part [TS]

00:18:05   nothing like your cellphone for seven [TS]

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00:19:22   supporting Roderick on the line and all [TS]

00:19:24   the great show lined them up let you [TS]

00:19:30   down [TS]

00:19:31   done done done and everything is at the [TS]

00:19:34   end at the end of every one of these [TS]

00:19:36   games at what I want is for for a for [TS]

00:19:40   exactly that bell sound to happen and [TS]

00:19:42   then a little piece of kibble comes down [TS]

00:19:44   into a into a bowl right just a little [TS]

00:19:47   link like [TS]

00:19:49   if if a dog didn't have the kibble he [TS]

00:19:54   would stop licking the phone but but [TS]

00:19:58   that's what a dog is meant to do using [TS]

00:20:00   people do you think people go to Las [TS]

00:20:02   Vegas to make money i don't think so i [TS]

00:20:05   think in some part of their lizard brain [TS]

00:20:07   you think oh boy I played a lot of video [TS]

00:20:10   blackjack if I show up in las vegas [TS]

00:20:12   there's a pretty good chance i'm gonna [TS]

00:20:13   walk away me I'm sure that happens but i [TS]

00:20:16   think it's it's just the gambling people [TS]

00:20:18   like the gambling and the thing is John [TS]

00:20:21   your scholarship director's medium posts [TS]

00:20:23   about this about how they make the games [TS]

00:20:25   to break your brain a little bit you [TS]

00:20:27   understand the understand the one-armed [TS]

00:20:28   bandit aspect of your video games [TS]

00:20:32   yeah they do it they don't purposely you [TS]

00:20:34   remember we interviewed that horrible [TS]

00:20:35   man [TS]

00:20:36   remember that man who made that game 3 [TS]

00:20:37   and we talked to him he seems like a [TS]

00:20:39   nice guy but you could tell he was [TS]

00:20:40   actually a monster when he was doing [TS]

00:20:42   that fingers I don't even know how we're [TS]

00:20:44   doing most cordial boot but I know and I [TS]

00:20:46   know if I pull this down i know i think [TS]

00:20:48   i got to I got two in the middle [TS]

00:20:50   they can't move and it might pull down i [TS]

00:20:52   know that fucking red 2 is going to go [TS]

00:20:54   in the upper left where I not only don't [TS]

00:20:56   need it and don't want it but now it [TS]

00:20:58   creates a problem for me [TS]

00:20:59   he made that on purpose yeah well and [TS]

00:21:02   also those were to make the red fall to [TS]

00:21:04   to make me get a 400 sure you just get [TS]

00:21:07   swelling you a shame on you [TS]

00:21:09   you're up at thirty-four thousand points [TS]

00:21:10   and then all of a sudden he was [TS]

00:21:13   surprised you get six red tiles in a row [TS]

00:21:15   i keep thinking I kind of beat fix red [TS]

00:21:18   tiles and you're like you know what I [TS]

00:21:20   was fine i was from fine i had this game [TS]

00:21:23   under control [TS]

00:21:24   I was me i was marching to 60,000 it's [TS]

00:21:27   like like Ricky Jay walks and i'll let [TS]

00:21:29   you cut the deck like okay then I won't [TS]

00:21:32   even touch the cards i won't even touch [TS]

00:21:34   the card you cut the deck and UD let's [TS]

00:21:36   play three more hands okay gotta get [TS]

00:21:38   excited some foot [TS]

00:21:40   yeah yeah you loan me your nascar yeah [TS]

00:21:43   car and then no tell you what you give [TS]

00:21:46   me a shitty NASCAR car you getting yours [TS]

00:21:49   and if you can beat me in three laps [TS]

00:21:52   i'll give you 10,000 oh yeah right right [TS]

00:21:54   yeah well i mean i wish that that was a [TS]

00:21:56   that was that was a metaphor for [TS]

00:21:58   something but it's not it's actually a [TS]

00:21:59   daydream my head [TS]

00:22:00   saturday is that right yeah you said you [TS]

00:22:03   might need to work and sleep hygiene a [TS]

00:22:04   little bit its people keep saying sleep [TS]

00:22:06   hygiene and it and it's you know some [TS]

00:22:09   people react to the sound of the word [TS]

00:22:10   moist know what yeah sure you don't like [TS]

00:22:13   the word moist [TS]

00:22:13   yeah I feel like hygiene is in there for [TS]

00:22:16   me i don't want to hear the word hygiene [TS]

00:22:18   think it's problematic but i just don't [TS]

00:22:20   like it [TS]

00:22:21   hydromatic hygiene problem that is my [TS]

00:22:24   new moist hygiene is something better [TS]

00:22:27   that a junior high gym teacher says to [TS]

00:22:29   you as a way of not saying VD yeah are [TS]

00:22:34   or before making you get in the shower [TS]

00:22:35   when you don't want to [TS]

00:22:37   yeah but uh but so yesterday i'm walking [TS]

00:22:39   on that the this may be a sleep problem [TS]

00:22:41   but i'm walking along and here's the [TS]

00:22:45   daydream that comes into my head I at [TS]

00:22:48   the at in late middle age now i guess [TS]

00:22:50   i'm in many of the x-men central middle [TS]

00:22:52   age right now my late middle-age come on [TS]

00:22:56   but uh you want when it happens i'm [TS]

00:22:59   walking a lot i feel like i will know I [TS]

00:23:01   feel like all know because because all [TS]

00:23:03   of a sudden i'll start peeing like a [TS]

00:23:05   chronic alcoholic [TS]

00:23:06   no I didn't pee myself I just forgot to [TS]

00:23:11   pull my sweat pants down [TS]

00:23:12   I got me going to yourself i knew i was [TS]

00:23:15   standing at the toilet I just overlook [TS]

00:23:17   the sweatpants turlet is how you start [TS]

00:23:19   pronouncing it that i'll be i'll be [TS]

00:23:21   standing at a urinal in an airport style [TS]

00:23:24   and i'll be there for 40 minutes [TS]

00:23:26   that's how I know I'm late middle-age [TS]

00:23:28   standing at airport restroom just like [TS]

00:23:30   I'm almost model is done i'm older than [TS]

00:23:33   Carroll O'Connor was when he started on [TS]

00:23:35   the family you want want to feel old [TS]

00:23:39   you're feeling lonely ladies doing it [TS]

00:23:40   it's the same distance between now and [TS]

00:23:43   the first Beatles album and the distance [TS]

00:23:45   between the first Beatles album and the [TS]

00:23:47   birth of ragtime oh my god it's a [TS]

00:23:49   difference now between that the burr [TS]

00:23:51   Hamilton dual same amount as since [TS]

00:23:53   synchronicity came out and without kid [TS]

00:23:55   from nevermind haha didn't look good [TS]

00:24:00   from nevermind play a play the love [TS]

00:24:02   interest girl on Wonder Years [TS]

00:24:04   no no I think that getting convicted the [TS]

00:24:07   guy in the guy in the players and dead [TS]

00:24:10   kennedys following the courtship of [TS]

00:24:12   eddie's father what [TS]

00:24:13   I think up anyway here's my daydream ok [TS]

00:24:18   walking along [TS]

00:24:20   listen this conversation pops into my [TS]

00:24:22   head ok [TS]

00:24:23   suddenly i'm standing at the at a NASCAR [TS]

00:24:26   track on an off day and here is the [TS]

00:24:30   manager I'm talking to the manager I'm [TS]

00:24:33   assuming there is a manager character in [TS]

00:24:35   NASCAR trying to the manager of a of a [TS]

00:24:38   very successful NASCAR team [TS]

00:24:41   I don't know anything about masker I I [TS]

00:24:45   think your assumptions feel valid this [TS]

00:24:46   point I think there's teams there must [TS]

00:24:48   be managers and is probably off days [TS]

00:24:50   this dissolve the salt checks out okay [TS]

00:24:52   good because that because you know I'm [TS]

00:24:54   making this up as I go and I have no [TS]

00:24:56   idea why I'm doing but I say to this [TS]

00:24:59   manager i waltz up let's say i get i get [TS]

00:25:02   in through the fence because it's an off [TS]

00:25:03   day i waltz up he's there [TS]

00:25:05   maybe he's wiping his hands on her on a [TS]

00:25:08   drag but he's the Manager so he's you [TS]

00:25:11   know he's got his he's wearing a [TS]

00:25:13   collared shirt and I say listen I seem a [TS]

00:25:17   little bit old I know but I'm the [TS]

00:25:20   world's greatest race car driver ever [TS]

00:25:22   see the movie the natural huh that's [TS]

00:25:24   beyond Roy Hobbs of driving NASCAR cars [TS]

00:25:27   and the manager says we get guys like [TS]

00:25:31   you in here all the time some guy [TS]

00:25:34   driving a Ford Taurus the back roads of [TS]

00:25:37   West Virginia you think your hot race [TS]

00:25:40   car driver and you want to come in here [TS]

00:25:41   and bs so get out of here kid and I say [TS]

00:25:46   that so I figured you'd say [TS]

00:25:49   and here's my wager and then I pull out [TS]

00:25:53   a stack [TS]

00:25:54   I to two stacks of twenty thousand [TS]

00:25:57   dollars and I say that with you when you [TS]

00:26:01   snuck through the fence and this is just [TS]

00:26:03   you know I'm like I'm not here [TS]

00:26:05   let's take this table stakes in a NASCAR [TS]

00:26:07   dare well but this is you know it's an [TS]

00:26:09   off day [TS]

00:26:10   sure so I'm not I'm not standing at I'm [TS]

00:26:13   not standing here like I'm certainly i'm [TS]

00:26:15   not in a boiler suit with my name over [TS]

00:26:17   the pockets but I'm also not a [TS]

00:26:20   three-piece suit either but I look like [TS]

00:26:22   you know I came I came correct right [TS]

00:26:24   maybe you see a little flash [TS]

00:26:26   of steve mcqueen Rowling's but you're [TS]

00:26:30   feeling like this is this is this is a [TS]

00:26:31   hostile he sees guys like this every day [TS]

00:26:33   that they haven't rec'd yet and [TS]

00:26:34   therefore the jackie stewart you come [TS]

00:26:36   along you slip in through the fence [TS]

00:26:37   because it's an off day you pull out [TS]

00:26:39   forty thousand dollars [TS]

00:26:40   yeah sister two stones two stacks of [TS]

00:26:44   twenty20 grandi he's not made of stone [TS]

00:26:46   know is a you know he however much he's [TS]

00:26:49   getting paid how much do you have to be [TS]

00:26:51   paid a to not do not blink your eyes at [TS]

00:26:55   40,000 cash I single divorced i'm going [TS]

00:27:00   to assume if you're a NASCAR manager [TS]

00:27:02   you've been divorced once okay unclear [TS]

00:27:05   whether you've married again we want to [TS]

00:27:08   be making six to thirteen million [TS]

00:27:11   dollars a year to turn down that kind of [TS]

00:27:14   money [TS]

00:27:14   40 grand but he's you know he doesn't [TS]

00:27:17   even know you can cash he doesn't know [TS]

00:27:18   what it's for Ivan Bryce's this is a [TS]

00:27:20   simple plan money this is this is money [TS]

00:27:22   in a duffel that's in a tree but it's [TS]

00:27:24   you know to 40 grand you can hold that [TS]

00:27:26   in your hand that's what I'm saying but [TS]

00:27:28   I'm just waving it and I say here's the [TS]

00:27:30   wager this is so easy that was only a [TS]

00:27:33   one we talked a little turkey yeah when [TS]

00:27:35   we double it so I say get your youngest [TS]

00:27:38   hottest maverick driver out here at [TS]

00:27:42   which point in the day dream who [TS]

00:27:44   saunters into the frame but young [TS]

00:27:47   maverick driver with a sneer with it [TS]

00:27:50   with a hateful snoozy cocky John is so [TS]

00:27:52   cocky these are in thin little guy and [TS]

00:27:55   he's that he's full of like piss and [TS]

00:27:57   vinegar any walk services what's going [TS]

00:27:59   on boss and the the manager goes at [TS]

00:28:03   rishikesh let the guy finish and I see [TS]

00:28:07   get your cocky driver over here he can [TS]

00:28:09   take his car you loan me whatever other [TS]

00:28:12   car you got lying around doesn't even [TS]

00:28:14   have to be that hot whatever you got [TS]

00:28:16   this one you're working on right here [TS]

00:28:17   now if your kid can beat me in one lap [TS]

00:28:23   so we go out one lap he's ahead of me I [TS]

00:28:27   quit I quit the game forever and I give [TS]

00:28:30   him ten grand I give you 10 grand right [TS]

00:28:35   uh-huh but if I'm in the lead at one lap [TS]

00:28:41   then i'll give the kid a second lap to [TS]

00:28:44   catch me [TS]

00:28:45   Wow huh it's good wager this is so how [TS]

00:28:52   you turned that like that down right if [TS]

00:28:54   I'm ahead at the end of the second lap [TS]

00:28:56   no no wait if he beats me up the second [TS]

00:28:59   lap I gave him 20 grand u20 but if I'm [TS]

00:29:05   ahead i'll give the kid a third lap to [TS]

00:29:10   catch me but if at the end of the third [TS]

00:29:14   lap I'm ahead neither you get anything [TS]

00:29:19   and you let me drive for you in the next [TS]

00:29:22   major NASCAR race always Yemeni as your [TS]

00:29:26   driver [TS]

00:29:27   yes of the hot car you don't even ask [TS]

00:29:29   for the pink slip just saying you just [TS]

00:29:31   thinking a chance to and give me a [TS]

00:29:33   chance mr. this is how I'm gonna prove [TS]

00:29:35   it [TS]

00:29:35   uh-huh so I had nothing to lose we got [TS]

00:29:38   nothing to lose that's right just sent [TS]

00:29:40   me these 200,000 cook dark attract right [TS]

00:29:43   ok so if i wreck the car in the first [TS]

00:29:46   lap then you guys what's going riding [TS]

00:29:50   off this up with you guys eat 10 grand [TS]

00:29:53   what if he's been looking what if he's [TS]

00:29:54   leaving when you wrecked the car does [TS]

00:29:55   that change it if I wrecked the car no [TS]

00:29:58   matter which place i'm in ok no matter [TS]

00:30:00   whether I'm first or second that I'm out [TS]

00:30:02   ok I i I'm not going to like say let's [TS]

00:30:04   do over get a different car [TS]

00:30:07   yeah I didn't I was ahead you're never [TS]

00:30:10   gonna do this again not write bad on me [TS]

00:30:12   bring another car around so it's not if [TS]

00:30:16   it's not you know it's not a risk-free [TS]

00:30:18   wager for him he's risking this but he [TS]

00:30:21   also stands to make a plan for pause I [TS]

00:30:24   mean this is serious shit yeah this [TS]

00:30:26   isn't just about your new career and [TS]

00:30:28   you're gonna prove it you know what I [TS]

00:30:29   can already tell by the end of this you [TS]

00:30:31   guys are going to be buddy solving [TS]

00:30:32   crimes in a van [TS]

00:30:33   see what I'm saying I i see how this [TS]

00:30:35   turns out he's going to admire my moxie [TS]

00:30:37   and he's gonna end up probably firing [TS]

00:30:40   the cocky kid he's going to give the [TS]

00:30:42   cocky kid his walking papers because the [TS]

00:30:44   guy that came along that understands him [TS]

00:30:46   a little bit [TS]

00:30:47   better even though you know like a [TS]

00:30:49   fellow American knows how to drive this [TS]

00:30:52   goddamn race car [TS]

00:30:53   ok now this daydream proceeds from the [TS]

00:30:58   the natural daydream the day dream of [TS]

00:31:02   being the natural which I have all the [TS]

00:31:05   time which is still talk to walk out [TS]

00:31:07   onto the baseball field and say have [TS]

00:31:09   your best pitcher throw 10 pitches at me [TS]

00:31:12   if I don't knock every one of them out [TS]

00:31:13   of the park then a walk out of here with [TS]

00:31:16   my tail between my legs if I do then [TS]

00:31:18   you'll make me designated hitter for the [TS]

00:31:20   for the mariners ok they're never dated [TS]

00:31:23   an american league team [TS]

00:31:24   I don't remember okay there are other [TS]

00:31:27   the Seattle team they're named after [TS]

00:31:28   people that go to see ok [TS]

00:31:31   yes it's they probably got a designated [TS]

00:31:32   hitter sure yo you gotta have a [TS]

00:31:34   designated hitter [TS]

00:31:35   oh yeah we do we have designated do we I [TS]

00:31:38   don't know I don't you know just you can [TS]

00:31:40   be a pinch-hitter you get power hitter [TS]

00:31:41   you could be somebody with slugging [TS]

00:31:43   percentage point is put John behind the [TS]

00:31:44   fucking wheel let him show you what he's [TS]

00:31:47   got [TS]

00:31:47   let me show you what I can do like that [TS]

00:31:49   kid doesn't know from moxie [TS]

00:31:51   well the thing is if the kid is playing [TS]

00:31:52   the game right right he's gonna let me [TS]

00:31:54   leave him at the first lab because I [TS]

00:31:57   just promised him double money at the [TS]

00:31:58   second of all it's a double-reverse [TS]

00:32:00   hostile that's how hostile works ride so [TS]

00:32:03   he's like I got this I got this i'm [TS]

00:32:05   gonna let him at and the manager might [TS]

00:32:07   even be colluding with my cake it let [TS]

00:32:09   him just knows ya at the end of the [TS]

00:32:11   first lab and then dust him and we'll [TS]

00:32:13   both walk out of here with 20 grand each [TS]

00:32:15   I guess this guy thinks he's watched [TS]

00:32:17   some bootleg movies yeah and you know [TS]

00:32:21   let's let's just for the sake of [TS]

00:32:22   argument say he's not going to spin out [TS]

00:32:24   and kill himself [TS]

00:32:25   this seems like this seems like a good [TS]

00:32:26   15 minutes we're gonna spend here [TS]

00:32:29   well uh and then i came home and i [TS]

00:32:33   realized that that had that had taken up [TS]

00:32:35   an hour my day [TS]

00:32:36   you know I've got I've got seven hours [TS]

00:32:37   invested seven-and-a-half hours invested [TS]

00:32:39   it's in the lineup gems yeah i got an [TS]

00:32:42   hour of the day like becoming a great [TS]

00:32:45   NASCAR driver but you know don't don't [TS]

00:32:47   feel bad about that you need to work out [TS]

00:32:49   those rules [TS]

00:32:50   I mean for the sake of the bed and the [TS]

00:32:52   sake of the story you and make sure [TS]

00:32:53   those does those rules really work i [TS]

00:32:55   would not just goes up to the fence on [TS]

00:32:57   an off day without knowing what the [TS]

00:32:59   rules are going to be sure [TS]

00:33:00   you're going to get you gotta get the [TS]

00:33:01   hook in me got it that's exactly right [TS]

00:33:04   you gotta set it up get the hook because [TS]

00:33:05   managers like either i see a million you [TS]

00:33:07   guys how did you get through the fence [TS]

00:33:09   yeah i'm going to say well I got a [TS]

00:33:11   certain have certain carriage where when [TS]

00:33:14   I walked through a gap in the fence and [TS]

00:33:17   the young person who is charged with [TS]

00:33:19   keeping people out who looks over i look [TS]

00:33:22   like there's just something about me [TS]

00:33:24   that that sixty percent of the time [TS]

00:33:27   those young people who are working in [TS]

00:33:29   the security capacity figure I belong [TS]

00:33:32   yeah right that's what's called [TS]

00:33:33   privilege yeah I said Here I senior good [TS]

00:33:36   at you you walk into it anywhere you go [TS]

00:33:38   you walk in like you own the place [TS]

00:33:39   that's right and and particularly [TS]

00:33:41   walking into a nascar on an off day [TS]

00:33:43   especially on an off day I'm gonna waltz [TS]

00:33:46   in there and the the young security [TS]

00:33:47   guards gonna be like and he seems like [TS]

00:33:49   you don't you know because within NASCAR [TS]

00:33:51   I'm sure there are some characters that [TS]

00:33:54   if you say excuse me sir can I see some [TS]

00:33:56   ID [TS]

00:33:56   you're gonna get up you know yeah you [TS]

00:33:59   have your mouth full of fingers in your [TS]

00:34:01   batch right right you know i am i'm lee [TS]

00:34:05   Unser jr. I'm I'm max NASCAR dads named [TS]

00:34:09   after me i'm at my grandpas any cars [TS]

00:34:12   yeah i'm the i'm stunned the last [TS]

00:34:14   bootlegger I'm still running shine [TS]

00:34:17   I don't seem to have identified I built [TS]

00:34:19   the fence yeah that's right i was [TS]

00:34:22   running shine will you were still waxing [TS]

00:34:23   your toenails [TS]

00:34:24   that's right we're running last set of [TS]

00:34:26   canada haha oh right yes [TS]

00:34:31   did I ever tell you about separate type [TS]

00:34:33   about the fact that really going you [TS]

00:34:35   don't sleep it there doing legs during [TS]

00:34:38   Prohibition my great uncle al Alfred [TS]

00:34:42   ruffner rochester took my dad to canada [TS]

00:34:45   so my dad was born in 21 right so he [TS]

00:34:48   took my dead Canada is a little as boy [TS]

00:34:51   and filled his knickers with whiskey [TS]

00:34:56   Oh up like like a like classes click [TS]

00:35:02   pints Yeah Yeah right so you know with a [TS]

00:35:05   thicker work a nicker yeah I nikkor it's [TS]

00:35:08   it sounds like a child jodhpur yeah you [TS]

00:35:10   got a tall sock em and then bend the [TS]

00:35:13   nikkor starts on [TS]

00:35:14   meet the knee and then it's a big baggy [TS]

00:35:16   pant and uncle al filled dad's stickers [TS]

00:35:22   with whiskey bottles and I think they [TS]

00:35:23   were wrapped in rags so they didn't [TS]

00:35:24   clink smart and then he walked him back [TS]

00:35:27   over the border here at the Peace Arch [TS]

00:35:29   and dad told that told that story his [TS]

00:35:33   whole life he was it was a whiskey mule [TS]

00:35:36   he was a little bit he was a bootlegger [TS]

00:35:38   even before he could even before you can [TS]

00:35:40   play the harmonica go did he take the [TS]

00:35:47   bent boom don't you ask our go yes he [TS]

00:35:50   did not return that bed down that's a [TS]

00:35:52   lot of money John the thing is I you [TS]

00:35:54   know the thing is maybe the manager may [TS]

00:35:56   be the team that I approach was a little [TS]

00:35:58   bit underdog team right they've got this [TS]

00:36:00   cocky driver but they just can't get it [TS]

00:36:02   dialed in so this guy's willing to take [TS]

00:36:04   a risk i'm not i'm not going up to the [TS]

00:36:06   school bandodkar no I'm going up to the [TS]

00:36:09   car i'm not going up to the one that's [TS]

00:36:10   sponsored by castor oil [TS]

00:36:12   this is gonna be more like like slice or [TS]

00:36:16   or Scott brand toilet wipes it's gonna [TS]

00:36:18   be a lesser brand [TS]

00:36:19   yeah right i'm going up to the car in [TS]

00:36:21   there that the foot of their cars like [TS]

00:36:23   wet wipes which I'm saying to the [TS]

00:36:26   manager there look at the sponsored by [TS]

00:36:28   safe safeway in walgreens generic brands [TS]

00:36:31   taco bell KFC know that's a big I'm not [TS]

00:36:36   sure that's a big brand [TS]

00:36:38   yeah they run a big team but know that [TS]

00:36:39   so I go up to wet wipes kind of like you [TS]

00:36:41   want to go to the show like you've been [TS]

00:36:45   in this game a long time to like your [TS]

00:36:47   you're Kevin Costner here right here and [TS]

00:36:50   I'm telling you you're you're sitting [TS]

00:36:51   here trying to get the trying to get the [TS]

00:36:52   meat to throw heater [TS]

00:36:54   that's right you to your tim robbins [TS]

00:36:56   wait no II the kid tim robbins yeah the [TS]

00:36:58   kid is tim robbins i'ma Costner of this [TS]

00:37:00   story [TS]

00:37:01   OIC they just don't know you're the [TS]

00:37:03   unknown Costner yeah you're not getting [TS]

00:37:05   stuck into the fence on an off day [TS]

00:37:07   looking through the fence there's a [TS]

00:37:08   susan sarandon with some heart-shaped [TS]

00:37:10   sunglasses out in the outfield [TS]

00:37:12   yeah trying to score the game's going to [TS]

00:37:14   game yep when and daughter and she's [TS]

00:37:17   calling the NASCAR how many left turns [TS]

00:37:18   do they make yep a lot for again um and [TS]

00:37:22   and so this guy's got you know these got [TS]

00:37:25   some skin in the game right this may be [TS]

00:37:26   his last [TS]

00:37:27   here if he doesn't if he doesn't win a [TS]

00:37:29   NASCAR race he's gonna lose the team and [TS]

00:37:33   he's gonna lose the team because the [TS]

00:37:35   because the unscrupulous owners are [TS]

00:37:37   counting on him losing right right so so [TS]

00:37:40   so maybe it's like the producers right [TS]

00:37:42   maybe they're looking for this thing to [TS]

00:37:44   as they say crash and burn the only way [TS]

00:37:46   they're gonna make their money back [TS]

00:37:47   the only way they're going to avoid [TS]

00:37:49   fraud is a is if the the toilet toilet [TS]

00:37:53   wipes team goes that it's up [TS]

00:37:55   yeah they got me they got the wet wipes [TS]

00:37:57   sponsorship as a form of public shaming [TS]

00:38:01   of this cold you know like down trodden [TS]

00:38:05   brown shoe wear and start jumping manage [TS]

00:38:08   that's the manager okay yeah he actually [TS]

00:38:11   turned out to have a heart of gold as [TS]

00:38:13   I'm again jumping ahead too far [TS]

00:38:14   what I'm assuming is that he was [TS]

00:38:16   partnered with this callow young driver [TS]

00:38:19   because the callow young driver was [TS]

00:38:21   forced upon him somehow either is maybe [TS]

00:38:23   somebody might be stealing the plot of [TS]

00:38:26   the pixar movie cars but I think maybe [TS]

00:38:28   at some point there was there was a [TS]

00:38:30   death or a danger that I could have [TS]

00:38:32   prevented it [TS]

00:38:33   I see that everything is on the line [TS]

00:38:35   Scott's toilets people on the horn [TS]

00:38:37   yeah you know he's a shadow over here [TS]

00:38:39   there's a shadow over him and I'm the [TS]

00:38:41   Cinderella story that's going to come [TS]

00:38:43   and redeem all the past failures his and [TS]

00:38:46   mine using sighs I guess so the kind of [TS]

00:38:50   the problem is the other day on twitter [TS]

00:38:52   i asked a question i said you know i [TS]

00:38:54   just sent it out there to the two [TS]

00:38:56   legions and I said do you live primarily [TS]

00:38:58   in the real world or do you look [TS]

00:39:00   primarily in your imagination and its [TS]

00:39:04   first and then I know how people [TS]

00:39:05   answered well no that's the thing i [TS]

00:39:07   thought i would too but the initial uh [TS]

00:39:10   the initial answers had a surprising [TS]

00:39:12   number of people that were like the real [TS]

00:39:14   world like there's a reason [TS]

00:39:17   yeah that there's a reason it's the real [TS]

00:39:19   that's what they want you to think I [TS]

00:39:21   live in I'm living in the real world and [TS]

00:39:23   then there were some that I that I found [TS]

00:39:24   very curious which was I tried to live [TS]

00:39:26   in the real world like living in my [TS]

00:39:29   imagination has not benefited me I I [TS]

00:39:31   work to stay in the world and I was like [TS]

00:39:35   oh isn't that interesting like I'm I'm [TS]

00:39:38   impressed by this by this because that [TS]

00:39:41   of course there were people who were [TS]

00:39:42   like imagination and most of the people [TS]

00:39:44   live in their imagination just one word [TS]

00:39:45   answers right imagination imagination [TS]

00:39:47   imagination because they're assuming I'm [TS]

00:39:50   gonna use my imagination to know what [TS]

00:39:53   the hell they're doing in their magic [TS]

00:39:55   apply or they don't want it revealed but [TS]

00:39:58   I had all these real-world people I was [TS]

00:40:01   like yes [TS]

00:40:03   wow i didn't i didn't expect it right [TS]

00:40:05   but then later on I think the [TS]

00:40:08   imagination people started to wake up [TS]

00:40:10   later in the day [TS]

00:40:11   typical write it in the late afternoon [TS]

00:40:13   they were like me met Mimi and it ended [TS]

00:40:17   up being I think the imaginations want [TS]

00:40:20   it but which would you say imagination [TS]

00:40:24   yeah and I've heard i would like to say [TS]

00:40:26   that I live in the real world but no I [TS]

00:40:28   Tyee a vast amount of information [TS]

00:40:31   processing i do is about nothing in [TS]

00:40:34   particular it but I said to somebody the [TS]

00:40:38   other day who was because that somebody [TS]

00:40:40   in the real world came out me a cocktail [TS]

00:40:41   party and said I I've heard your program [TS]

00:40:44   em and I said hmm does that mean you've [TS]

00:40:47   listened to only one episode and then [TS]

00:40:50   they were abashed and they said well [TS]

00:40:52   I've only just discovered and I started [TS]

00:40:53   listening to it and I said no and then [TS]

00:40:56   this person's spouse came over and [TS]

00:41:00   should not listen to the program and she [TS]

00:41:01   said tell me about this program and I'm [TS]

00:41:04   like well let me put it this way i think [TS]

00:41:07   that you have to be very smart to [TS]

00:41:12   appreciate what my co-host says you have [TS]

00:41:15   to be very smart to follow what he is [TS]

00:41:17   saying [TS]

00:41:17   whereas with me you do not have to be [TS]

00:41:20   smart to follow what I'm saying you just [TS]

00:41:21   have to keep an open mind and [TS]

00:41:24   and she said huh that's an interesting [TS]

00:41:28   description of a relationship and I said [TS]

00:41:31   that's all I'm going to say I'm a [TS]

00:41:33   nominal go have my fourth cupcake at [TS]

00:41:35   this party just just a little bit a [TS]

00:41:37   little bit of context what to listen for [TS]

00:41:39   em right that's right that's right yeah [TS]

00:41:43   but y'know ya when people talk about [TS]

00:41:45   stuff [TS]

00:41:46   yeah but it's always a good time and we [TS]

00:41:48   went missing about when Matt with this [TS]

00:41:51   show with everything everything I said [TS]

00:41:52   now I'm like you know what I care fuck [TS]

00:41:55   all about the topic of almost anything [TS]

00:41:57   and I'm much more interested in the [TS]

00:41:58   people that are doing it so how do you [TS]

00:42:00   describe here at step one go get [TS]

00:42:02   interested in other people there they're [TS]

00:42:04   kind of hard to like now go listen to [TS]

00:42:07   219 episodes you really gonna start at [TS]

00:42:09   the beginning but uh I should generally [TS]

00:42:13   did you like a year to decide if you [TS]

00:42:14   like it and you know she wants it was [TS]

00:42:16   once you're gonna hate [TS]

00:42:17   so that that's a good thing i said yeah [TS]

00:42:19   i said you really thought you really got [TS]

00:42:20   started to start something really got it [TS]

00:42:22   you really gotta catch em all and uh and [TS]

00:42:25   know what I always say to somebody who's [TS]

00:42:27   interested in it who is pretending to be [TS]

00:42:29   interested in the podcast at a cocktail [TS]

00:42:31   party is you really have to listen to at [TS]

00:42:33   least two episodes picked them at random [TS]

00:42:36   you may get you may come up snake eyes [TS]

00:42:39   you may pick two episodes that both [TS]

00:42:41   drive you bananas but really there's [TS]

00:42:43   something in it for everyone and uh yeah [TS]

00:42:47   most people most people that I meet at [TS]

00:42:49   cocktail parties or are you know they're [TS]

00:42:52   polite how the cut looks phenomenal [TS]

00:42:56   I love this okay what was crazy about [TS]

00:42:58   the cupcakes and that do not let the the [TS]

00:43:00   co-host of our other programs you know [TS]

00:43:03   the one I'm talking about hear me say [TS]

00:43:05   this but the hosts s of the party said I [TS]

00:43:09   made the frosting with marshmallow fluff [TS]

00:43:11   and I was immediately repulsed right [TS]

00:43:15   because I now have a psychological block [TS]

00:43:18   about marshmallow and be like somebody [TS]

00:43:20   like saying i made this with blood [TS]

00:43:21   plasma yeah exactly like that's [TS]

00:43:23   interesting i totally don't eat that [TS]

00:43:25   yeah do you like do you like black [TS]

00:43:27   pudding mm well that's what I made the [TS]

00:43:30   frosting out and so they were small [TS]

00:43:32   cupcakes and I said I'll get out [TS]

00:43:35   just out of politeness all eat this [TS]

00:43:36   cupcake i'll make the sacrifice [TS]

00:43:38   you don't want to hurt the hostesses [TS]

00:43:39   feelings in a place i can write it gets [TS]

00:43:41   it it's a birthday party pants on [TS]

00:43:43   slightly by 81 and you know the problem [TS]

00:43:46   with most cakes is the frosting the [TS]

00:43:48   quality of the frost most most cakes are [TS]

00:43:52   the same [TS]

00:43:52   it's the frosting that's good or bad and [TS]

00:43:54   if you buy a cake at the grocery store [TS]

00:43:56   the the frosting is made out of like [TS]

00:43:59   five pound bag of government sugar and [TS]

00:44:03   like a moyel yeah right its lucky take [TS]

00:44:06   the first fighting like this [TS]

00:44:08   yeah right bacon fat and a bag of sugar [TS]

00:44:12   but this marshmallow fluff frosting was [TS]

00:44:15   exactly the frosting of your the best [TS]

00:44:20   frosting that you could have asked for [TS]

00:44:21   butter butter butter butter butter [TS]

00:44:23   yeah and there was none of that like oh [TS]

00:44:25   this one's made with sour cream [TS]

00:44:27   no thank you oh this one's made with [TS]

00:44:30   yogurt no thank you [TS]

00:44:32   this one but no I don't want butter [TS]

00:44:35   I don't want to I don't want sour butter [TS]

00:44:37   in it i don't want sage in it like go [TS]

00:44:40   screw yourselves modern people stop [TS]

00:44:42   being clever with food black stop it [TS]

00:44:45   so I it for these cupcakes and it was [TS]

00:44:50   all because that because it's the [TS]

00:44:51   birthday party was for a child and the [TS]

00:44:53   child was for I was restrained from [TS]

00:44:56   stealing more than four cupcakes like [TS]

00:45:00   wrapping them in a towel and taking them [TS]

00:45:02   out to the car [TS]

00:45:02   well but i didn't but it was I had to [TS]

00:45:06   show quite a measure of restraint [TS]

00:45:09   because they were great and they they [TS]

00:45:16   they made me the least they somewhat [TS]

00:45:18   mitigated the shame I felt at standing [TS]

00:45:21   at a child's birthday party and talking [TS]

00:45:22   about my own podcast people I've never [TS]

00:45:24   met before but I really don't like doing [TS]

00:45:26   that through the and you know they [TS]

00:45:28   started it [TS]

00:45:29   I've listen to your podcast well I mean [TS]

00:45:32   soon and you know the man the man who [TS]

00:45:34   said it it turned out his job Merlin his [TS]

00:45:37   professional job is to score baseball [TS]

00:45:40   team score baseball games he season [TS]

00:45:42   surrounded [TS]

00:45:43   he said but except he wasn't wearing [TS]

00:45:45   heart-shaped sunglasses or a sundress it [TS]

00:45:47   is raining down the case in the threes [TS]

00:45:49   tutus and the what [TS]

00:45:50   not yeah he said he does he's sitting up [TS]

00:45:52   in the booth and he's like you know we [TS]

00:45:54   decide we make decisions i mean the umph [TS]

00:45:56   umph decides a lot of things but we make [TS]

00:45:58   decisions about certain things are going [TS]

00:46:00   to get scored and it goes into the [TS]

00:46:02   historical record and and people people [TS]

00:46:05   that are vying for the batting [TS]

00:46:06   championship have to you don't have to [TS]

00:46:10   deal with are the results that as as we [TS]

00:46:13   see them [TS]

00:46:14   we're scouring the game for posterity [TS]

00:46:16   it's a game of numbers John Yeah Yeah [TS]

00:46:18   Yeah right [TS]

00:46:19   he said as much and I was thrilled to [TS]

00:46:22   meet someone who was i mean this was an [TS]

00:46:25   inside baseball conversation while he's [TS]

00:46:28   inside baseball [TS]

00:46:29   I'm highlight love meeting people who do [TS]

00:46:32   things that I don't and and do odd [TS]

00:46:35   things and I have so many questions [TS]

00:46:36   because I'm betting there's a lot of [TS]

00:46:38   politics in that I talked about inside [TS]

00:46:39   baseball [TS]

00:46:40   I mean they're deciding how something if [TS]

00:46:43   I understand what you're saying is [TS]

00:46:44   deciding like what goes on the [TS]

00:46:45   congressional record as regards baseball [TS]

00:46:47   and like that bet there's some pretty [TS]

00:46:49   tough especially towards the end of the [TS]

00:46:52   season [TS]

00:46:53   I bet that's a pretty politically [TS]

00:46:54   charged job well it turns out all of it [TS]

00:46:58   is i watch the baseball game the other [TS]

00:46:59   day from behind home plate because i had [TS]

00:47:02   a fancy friend who had fancy behind home [TS]

00:47:04   plate tickets where you're not only [TS]

00:47:06   watching the baseball game but if you [TS]

00:47:08   want you can have like baby back ribs [TS]

00:47:11   and chocolate cake brought to you home [TS]

00:47:13   again you know it's like fancy people [TS]

00:47:14   stuff and i'm watching the game and I'm [TS]

00:47:17   with them with true baseball aficionados [TS]

00:47:19   and there and at one point so we're [TS]

00:47:21   right behind the plate so we have this [TS]

00:47:23   unique view and my friend leans over and [TS]

00:47:26   he says the arms not having it and I say [TS]

00:47:29   what he means not having it and and he [TS]

00:47:33   says the pitchers pitching inside and [TS]

00:47:36   the ump isn't calling it strikes because [TS]

00:47:40   the amps the Empress is sending sending [TS]

00:47:43   the message to the picture that he wants [TS]

00:47:45   to see a baseball game and I said the [TS]

00:47:47   pumpkin send a message to the picture [TS]

00:47:49   saying he wants to see a baseball game [TS]

00:47:51   Wow and he was like yeah you know [TS]

00:47:54   sometimes sometimes throwing inside [TS]

00:47:56   trying to you know trying to brush the [TS]

00:47:58   batter back like yeah sure that's part [TS]

00:48:00   of the baseball game [TS]

00:48:01   you can't just sit there and do it all [TS]

00:48:02   day this is not going to school [TS]

00:48:03   that was gonna start not calling strikes [TS]

00:48:05   because he wants to see that picture put [TS]

00:48:07   it over the plate and I was like the [TS]

00:48:09   compass that involved in the game like [TS]

00:48:13   whoa and then at certain point the [TS]

00:48:16   opposing pitcher beamed our guy a little [TS]

00:48:19   chin music uh-huh and my friends were [TS]

00:48:23   like chuckle chuckle chuckle they said [TS]

00:48:25   watch in the next inning [TS]

00:48:28   we're gonna be in there guy yeah and I [TS]

00:48:30   said what we've been a guy just because [TS]

00:48:32   they begin to God clean pro quo Clarice [TS]

00:48:34   that's right don't let them get away [TS]

00:48:36   being a guy that you gotta be in there [TS]

00:48:38   guy many empty the pictures I heard them [TS]

00:48:40   say that i've heard I've heard it said [TS]

00:48:42   by baseball players I what I did watch a [TS]

00:48:44   documentary about the history of the [TS]

00:48:45   fastball and i believe that is [TS]

00:48:47   considered a strategic thing to do not [TS]

00:48:48   simply an emotional irrational thing to [TS]

00:48:50   do [TS]

00:48:51   yeah yeah right i mean you gotta you [TS]

00:48:53   gotta do it do it on behalf of your team [TS]

00:48:55   and also my friends were saying it's [TS]

00:48:57   going to happen here they were looking [TS]

00:48:59   at the lineup in there like that guy's [TS]

00:49:00   gonna get beam and then that guy stood [TS]

00:49:02   up to the plate and I said you're [TS]

00:49:03   telling me he knows he's about to get [TS]

00:49:05   beat and they said yeah and then [TS]

00:49:08   something went awry [TS]

00:49:11   he was in the he was in the the box the [TS]

00:49:14   warm-up box the on deck circle he was on [TS]

00:49:16   the in the on deck circle swinging his [TS]

00:49:18   bat with a with like a heavy doughnut on [TS]

00:49:20   and then the guy right in front of him [TS]

00:49:22   the one who wasn't going to get being he [TS]

00:49:25   clocked the ball somewhere and now that [TS]

00:49:28   now the Mariners no longer had the [TS]

00:49:30   option of that would have had the guy on [TS]

00:49:32   second [TS]

00:49:33   yeah right so they had to revise the [TS]

00:49:36   plan and by the end of the game they [TS]

00:49:37   hadn't been to this guy then being [TS]

00:49:39   anybody and it felt like that was [TS]

00:49:42   something in them that was something in [TS]

00:49:44   the to do list that might have [TS]

00:49:46   interesting as you can't you can't you [TS]

00:49:48   can't be back [TS]

00:49:49   a guy by the end of the game doesn't [TS]

00:49:51   reset you can't you can't hold a grudge [TS]

00:49:52   you can say well next time we're in [TS]

00:49:54   Pittsburgh you're gonna get hit in the [TS]

00:49:57   head [TS]

00:49:58   well i know that the the adages what you [TS]

00:50:00   there's no quibbling in baseball or [TS]

00:50:02   there's no quit baseball there's no [TS]

00:50:04   question baseball that was your para [TS]

00:50:06   right there's no question baseball but i [TS]

00:50:08   don't i don't remember ever reading a [TS]

00:50:10   thing that said there are no grudges in [TS]

00:50:11   baseball [TS]

00:50:12   oh I see I think baseball's fully I [TS]

00:50:15   think it's half made of great [TS]

00:50:16   oh yeah yeah it's like you can't have [TS]

00:50:18   the wall without the the mortar and [TS]

00:50:20   brick exactly what their specs it'sit's [TS]

00:50:23   fastback with grudges something about [TS]

00:50:26   the the Blue Jays the Blue Jays have [TS]

00:50:28   some hot rod hitter who's a little bit [TS]

00:50:30   long in the tooth em but he's putting [TS]

00:50:32   the balls over the fence and there was [TS]

00:50:34   something when a guy from the Texas [TS]

00:50:36   Rangers came to punch him in the nose [TS]

00:50:37   about something that happened the year [TS]

00:50:38   before [TS]

00:50:39   Oh interesting yeah now on the field [TS]

00:50:42   like you got a bit gotta have something [TS]

00:50:45   going on to get punched on the field who [TS]

00:50:46   I don't know that much about baseball I [TS]

00:50:49   know I couldn't tell you what the inflow [TS]

00:50:50   infield fly rule was don't even know [TS]

00:50:52   what the outfield fly rule but this guy [TS]

00:50:55   does he's scoring the freaking game for [TS]

00:50:57   those of you listening who don't know [TS]

00:50:58   what that means it means they sit with a [TS]

00:51:01   pencil and a piece of paper and [TS]

00:51:02   everything that happens on the baseball [TS]

00:51:04   field they write it down and adjudicated [TS]

00:51:06   in the moment is like graphical notation [TS]

00:51:08   for something easy like you can say I [TS]

00:51:11   like a as a strikeout and like if it's a [TS]

00:51:13   two-balled somebody catches you throw [TS]

00:51:14   somebody out first like every player on [TS]

00:51:16   the team has a number great wanting that [TS]

00:51:18   your to his catcher three is first base [TS]

00:51:20   etc I used to do it was the only way i [TS]

00:51:22   can find baseball interesting was to [TS]

00:51:23   keep screaming you scored baseball [TS]

00:51:25   I'm just fine yeah I i missed out on so [TS]

00:51:30   much as an American kid really part [TS]

00:51:32   probably by living in Alaska and partly [TS]

00:51:35   by not reading superhero comics and [TS]

00:51:37   partly by not understanding sports [TS]

00:51:39   yeah things it was it was a trifecta [TS]

00:51:42   living in Alaska puts you in a certain [TS]

00:51:44   kind of daylight not reading superhero [TS]

00:51:48   comics makes you feel I guess not [TS]

00:51:52   understand the full scope of human [TS]

00:51:54   possibility including mutants also you [TS]

00:51:58   you it sounds like you don't know how to [TS]

00:52:01   describe this up something i'm putting a [TS]

00:52:03   value statement on it but you sound like [TS]

00:52:05   you did not have a lot of like close [TS]

00:52:07   friends right then and now [TS]

00:52:10   mm um and then I don't either [TS]

00:52:14   right here 12 years old like reading [TS]

00:52:16   joseph conrad doesn't make you other [TS]

00:52:18   friends very very quickly [TS]

00:52:19   mhm you should be reading superhero and [TS]

00:52:22   also sports i would stand and watch the [TS]

00:52:25   sports or you know wouldn't watch the [TS]

00:52:26   sports i would watch the kids watch the [TS]

00:52:28   sport [TS]

00:52:28   and just feel like I've item mean I love [TS]

00:52:32   I love baseball as a kid but like as I [TS]

00:52:34   stand here today and i know this is like [TS]

00:52:35   up either hateable or fashionable thing [TS]

00:52:37   to say but i just don't get it i'm going [TS]

00:52:39   to kind of get it I get it any most [TS]

00:52:41   intellectual abstract way but it's [TS]

00:52:44   completely baffling to me how many of my [TS]

00:52:46   friends are super into sports and that's [TS]

00:52:49   i'm not saying that to be a dick I mean [TS]

00:52:50   I can watch a baseball game like the bar [TS]

00:52:53   sports teams in the playoffs or whatever [TS]

00:52:54   watching it's fun but like it's it's and [TS]

00:52:57   I really i honestly don't mean this as [TS]

00:52:59   like criticism it's just honestly [TS]

00:53:01   baffling to me making the same way maybe [TS]

00:53:05   that same some people how can you be [TS]

00:53:06   that into music or how could you believe [TS]

00:53:09   that into politics more that into [TS]

00:53:12   crafting for that matter but like the [TS]

00:53:15   genuine over get the crafting thing [TS]

00:53:18   yeah you should come back to Xtreme [TS]

00:53:20   towels right well the thing about felt [TS]

00:53:23   is it feels so nice it is now so soft [TS]

00:53:26   yeah yeah I am but the genuine obviously [TS]

00:53:30   very clear emotional tumult that I see [TS]

00:53:35   and my friends who follow baseball when [TS]

00:53:38   I was getting the free baby back ribs [TS]

00:53:40   and chocolate cake brought to me I [TS]

00:53:41   understood why you love baseball [TS]

00:53:43   no I would I wouldn't say anything and [TS]

00:53:45   then when I realized that the lump was [TS]

00:53:47   like nope that you know someone's might [TS]

00:53:49   call that a strike [TS]

00:53:50   I might call that a strike at a [TS]

00:53:52   different point in the game but right [TS]

00:53:53   now I'd like to see some baseball sir it [TS]

00:53:55   wasn't having it [TS]

00:53:56   yeah and you know in the I'm a base of [TS]

00:53:58   the baseball pitcher on the baseball [TS]

00:54:00   catcher are kind of looking up at him [TS]

00:54:02   like seriously but they're looking at [TS]

00:54:04   each other like when he wants to see [TS]

00:54:06   some baseball so let's give them some [TS]

00:54:07   baseball but that but put that next ball [TS]

00:54:09   right over the middle so I had no idea [TS]

00:54:12   all that was going on because i don't [TS]

00:54:14   think that that's going on in soccer but [TS]

00:54:18   maybe maybe the refs out there on the [TS]

00:54:20   field are our that involved in the game [TS]

00:54:22   like they're determining the I guess [TS]

00:54:25   basketball rafts are all the time [TS]

00:54:26   determining the fate of the that's [TS]

00:54:29   another documentary i watched about Dana [TS]

00:54:32   about a basketball referee who is [TS]

00:54:34   betting on games that he was [TS]

00:54:36   adjudicating was really very interest [TS]

00:54:38   whoo-hoo yeah yeah yeahs sneaker Rama a [TS]

00:54:43   sports documentary can be a good [TS]

00:54:45   document is a lot of very good sports [TS]

00:54:46   documentaries on netflix i don't know if [TS]

00:54:48   you ever got another password for [TS]

00:54:49   netflix but there's a lot of very good [TS]

00:54:50   documentaries on their agreed that whole [TS]

00:54:52   3430 then tastic there's an army corps [TS]

00:54:56   of those that are amongst the best [TS]

00:54:57   documentaries I've ever seen [TS]

00:54:59   yep yep i enjoyed them very much even on [TS]

00:55:02   the Chicago Bears was really good at the [TS]

00:55:04   85 chicago bears was like surprisingly [TS]

00:55:06   engrossing to me what are the Mannings [TS]

00:55:09   the UI Manning and the peyton manning [TS]

00:55:11   and the other hand out the Mannings is [TS]

00:55:12   the Mannings is are there are sports [TS]

00:55:15   dynasty they all seem like very nice [TS]

00:55:16   people and who can fault a man I guess [TS]

00:55:20   is the that's right on their family [TS]

00:55:22   crest [TS]

00:55:22   yeah okay who can fault demanding but [TS]

00:55:25   let me ask you let me ax you [TS]

00:55:27   yeah this may be another question to put [TS]

00:55:29   to the put to Twitter okay do you have a [TS]

00:55:31   lot of close friends right [TS]

00:55:34   do you mean do you have food because for [TS]

00:55:36   the last several months I've been my [TS]

00:55:38   life has been in a certain amount of [TS]

00:55:40   embroil moment that I've been you know [TS]

00:55:44   I'm been in the process of that one very [TS]

00:55:48   short sentence I saw you walk through [TS]

00:55:49   such a fucking hedge maze [TS]

00:55:51   oh and BTW do you leave the band your [TS]

00:55:57   pile and got the landing telephone [TS]

00:55:59   oilman and when you book but when but [TS]

00:56:08   when you are in volume [TS]

00:56:10   I it is sometimes very rarely but [TS]

00:56:14   sometimes you say hoo boy today was a [TS]

00:56:18   rough go [TS]

00:56:19   just just because the waters were [TS]

00:56:22   tumultuous yep right it's not the boat [TS]

00:56:24   is sound the wind is in my sales but the [TS]

00:56:27   what you know there are seven foot waves [TS]

00:56:29   let's calm their swells out on the sea i [TS]

00:56:31   rounded Neah Bay out of the Strait of [TS]

00:56:34   Juan de Fuca and i still remember songs [TS]

00:56:37   and I realize the sea was there to kill [TS]

00:56:39   me and um [TS]

00:56:42   and so I've said on on many occasions in [TS]

00:56:46   the last several months boy i would just [TS]

00:56:47   like someone to talk to and I pulled up [TS]

00:56:50   my address book which has literally [TS]

00:56:55   thousands of names in it because I'm a [TS]

00:56:57   social person i know a lot of people and [TS]

00:56:59   I started scrolling and I came to the [TS]

00:57:03   name and i said i could probably talk to [TS]

00:57:06   that person but then I kind of played [TS]

00:57:08   the conversation out a little bit i was [TS]

00:57:09   like yeah they're they're probably going [TS]

00:57:13   to start there it's going to start [TS]

00:57:15   feeling like they're busy right with me [TS]

00:57:17   when you're when you're like hey you got [TS]

00:57:19   a second to talk in there like sure what [TS]

00:57:20   he got and then you say well yeah I was [TS]

00:57:23   come on the high seas right now and then [TS]

00:57:25   you start to feel like they are busier [TS]

00:57:29   than they let on at first like you know [TS]

00:57:31   actually I just had a minute and there's [TS]

00:57:35   a pot on the stove and tonight's the [TS]

00:57:37   night i wash my hair so I'm scroll down [TS]

00:57:39   and I'm like I'm playing this [TS]

00:57:39   conversation out and i am going I'm [TS]

00:57:41   going I'm going I'm like I'm not a [TS]

00:57:43   single person of all my good friends [TS]

00:57:46   can I just done burned myself in of [TS]

00:57:50   these matters and i know that other [TS]

00:57:53   people even people very close to me have [TS]

00:57:56   no trouble sharing their whole kit and [TS]

00:57:59   caboodle [TS]

00:57:59   yeah with not just one but a whole [TS]

00:58:02   handful of friends maybe half a dozen to [TS]

00:58:03   a dozen friends then it seemed it's like [TS]

00:58:06   a normal thing [TS]

00:58:07   yeah well you just calling and burden [TS]

00:58:09   yourself [TS]

00:58:10   yeah I've got a really bad toothache and [TS]

00:58:12   uh you know and something i think a bug [TS]

00:58:15   crawled inside my penis who and I just [TS]

00:58:18   needed to talk to somebody absolutely [TS]

00:58:19   and you know if I had a bug in my penis [TS]

00:58:23   i would i'd be reticent to bring that up [TS]

00:58:26   even to a good pal because it's not a [TS]

00:58:29   it's not a thing that they that I would [TS]

00:58:31   probably share with them and they would [TS]

00:58:33   just be in that like tut-tut clock clock [TS]

00:58:35   posture [TS]

00:58:37   everything's gonna be fine so I feel [TS]

00:58:39   like I spare them and myself the [TS]

00:58:42   uncomfortableness of it but but i think [TS]

00:58:44   what ultimately that means is i don't [TS]

00:58:46   know i do not have [TS]

00:58:49   what Oh a whole bunch of friends that I [TS]

00:58:53   would then i would think of as and and [TS]

00:58:56   it ends up being like is it the is it [TS]

00:58:58   the friends that I don't have or is it [TS]

00:59:01   within myself a an incapacity i think [TS]

00:59:06   that is a a very wise and salient [TS]

00:59:09   question [TS]

00:59:10   it's not that you don't have the friends [TS]

00:59:11   it's like do you have the kinds of [TS]

00:59:12   relationships where that's the kind of [TS]

00:59:14   thing you feel okay about doing you feel [TS]

00:59:18   capable of doing it isn't that part of [TS]

00:59:22   it [TS]

00:59:23   yeah yeah I mean like I i I'm i have [TS]

00:59:25   lots of people who like I'm sure I could [TS]

00:59:27   call and say like you know especially [TS]

00:59:28   you call and say like I need help with a [TS]

00:59:30   problem right you could say like I can't [TS]

00:59:32   figure out how to fix my internet and [TS]

00:59:34   you could call a friend for that kind of [TS]

00:59:35   thing a lot of friends for them but now [TS]

00:59:38   I think a lot of it is inside of us in [TS]

00:59:40   our own expectations of like what's [TS]

00:59:41   what's okay to do and it's ya know not [TS]

00:59:44   nearly as not nearly as much as i did i [TS]

00:59:46   will say in college after college there [TS]

00:59:47   was a pretty steep drop-off in the [TS]

00:59:49   number of good acquaintances to friends [TS]

00:59:53   to close friends that I have no it's on [TS]

00:59:56   your college was piqued friendship for [TS]

00:59:57   me I think premier was high school [TS]

00:59:57   me I think premier was high school [TS]

01:00:00   by the time I got to college I was I was [TS]

01:00:02   already surprised my freshman year in [TS]

01:00:04   college at how my friends in college [TS]

01:00:07   were like pals but not i but i wasn't [TS]

01:00:11   clothes and clothes to them complete and [TS]

01:00:16   and my high school friends and I were [TS]

01:00:18   very competitive week with each other [TS]

01:00:20   and so that closeness was also a fraught [TS]

01:00:24   with a lot of competition and a lot of [TS]

01:00:26   like a like dread right you because your [TS]

01:00:30   friends were the ones that knew your [TS]

01:00:32   your darkest secrets and they were the [TS]

01:00:34   ones that were also trying to like kick [TS]

01:00:36   you in the knee and now is the way that [TS]

01:00:39   was high school for me and it felt very [TS]

01:00:42   we felt we were very close we were a [TS]

01:00:44   tight-knit group who was trying to [TS]

01:00:46   destroy itself and each other all the [TS]

01:00:48   time [TS]

01:00:49   fascinated me know and i got splits [TS]

01:00:50   pretty normal thing yeah and in college [TS]

01:00:52   it was just like okay let's go get some [TS]

01:00:55   beer and you know do some stuff I was [TS]

01:00:57   like oh uh huh i didn't i didn't realize [TS]

01:01:01   that that that experience wasn't going [TS]

01:01:02   to be reduced located and everything I [TS]

01:01:04   did the rest of my life that Pat never [TS]

01:01:07   did I i took so much for granted on [TS]

01:01:11   several fronts around that particular [TS]

01:01:13   issue around friendship right well just [TS]

01:01:15   a just the yeah just the relative ease [TS]

01:01:19   especially with the maybe with the [TS]

01:01:20   school that I went to the fact that it [TS]

01:01:21   was small but I mean just the fact that [TS]

01:01:22   like you are first in proximity to many [TS]

01:01:25   many peers and you know the the Sorting [TS]

01:01:29   Hat has made it so that you're around [TS]

01:01:30   peers who are probably kind of [TS]

01:01:32   equivalent to you in a lot of ways maybe [TS]

01:01:34   even more so than nice-looking could be [TS]

01:01:35   from the same neighborhood in high [TS]

01:01:36   school but and I don't know there's a [TS]

01:01:38   funny combination of like people who are [TS]

01:01:39   like you people who are not like you and [TS]

01:01:41   you have to see them you have to go to [TS]

01:01:42   the cafeteria you have to go to class [TS]

01:01:44   you have to have a roommate in most [TS]

01:01:46   cases and all of those things kind of [TS]

01:01:48   make it non-optional to just sit in your [TS]

01:01:51   room with your flight suit you've got to [TS]

01:01:53   go out and you've got to be around and [TS]

01:01:54   then in my case I'm this could be true [TS]

01:01:56   lots of places but I mean I can't [TS]

01:01:58   imagine going someplace like FSU like [TS]

01:02:00   you've gotta join organizations because [TS]

01:02:01   otherwise how do you meet the more [TS]

01:02:02   people there are the last chance that [TS]

01:02:04   you'll make a friend [TS]

01:02:05   where am i still like there are people [TS]

01:02:06   that I was friends with orientation week [TS]

01:02:08   that you know I became like terrific [TS]

01:02:10   friends with and then you grow with that [TS]

01:02:12   and but there's no nobody tells you how [TS]

01:02:15   much that just goes away and now you're [TS]

01:02:18   playing softball with people from work [TS]

01:02:21   and you said what what has my life [TS]

01:02:24   become don't even like wings that much [TS]

01:02:26   less not sure I do like wings with a [TS]

01:02:28   good thing is now it's now you've gone [TS]

01:02:30   it's gone from what saved by the bell to [TS]

01:02:33   you know a the office or whatever like [TS]

01:02:36   you're on a different show now [TS]

01:02:37   yeah yeah you're in 80 Mary Tyler Moore [TS]

01:02:39   well and and i have the additional [TS]

01:02:42   problem of wanting to talk about my [TS]

01:02:45   feelings which I know it right don't [TS]

01:02:49   like silence [TS]

01:02:51   oh no I'm ongoing no yeah i know but but [TS]

01:02:54   that but I but that was like an [TS]

01:02:56   illustrious of silence not that you [TS]

01:02:57   don't also like talking about feelings [TS]

01:02:59   i'm looking about I talking about ideas [TS]

01:03:02   and i like i like talking about things [TS]

01:03:04   that that were all equally or someone [TS]

01:03:07   equally excited to talk about something [TS]

01:03:08   that's novel in different but most of [TS]

01:03:10   the stuff that makes for easy social [TS]

01:03:12   intercourse is utterly insufferable to [TS]

01:03:14   me [TS]

01:03:15   yeah and and very little of it because I [TS]

01:03:18   guess I like talking about my feelings [TS]

01:03:20   because i'm looking for patterns and i [TS]

01:03:22   want to i want to solve for x and I want [TS]

01:03:27   to and I feel like feelings are well as [TS]

01:03:30   as a my good friend Mike Squires you say [TS]

01:03:33   John feelings are real and surreal and [TS]

01:03:36   feelings are real and so i'm using [TS]

01:03:38   feelings as a way of sorting and but in [TS]

01:03:43   talking about your feelings you're [TS]

01:03:44   talking about things that are [TS]

01:03:45   embarrassing almost immediately right [TS]

01:03:47   like boy [TS]

01:03:48   hey it was he feels unseemly to a lot of [TS]

01:03:50   men now to talk about something and say [TS]

01:03:53   something real but that's kind of what I [TS]

01:03:55   mean to talk about something talk about [TS]

01:03:56   something that you have not already [TS]

01:03:57   composed a complete and widely [TS]

01:04:00   acceptable unified field theory about [TS]

01:04:02   yeah sure [TS]

01:04:03   and it happens all the time when I'm [TS]

01:04:06   like oh boy i feel like because i want [TS]

01:04:08   to talk about feelings about my [TS]

01:04:09   relationships with other guys like hey I [TS]

01:04:12   was feeling kind of a little bit like [TS]

01:04:14   left out of that the other day and I [TS]

01:04:16   sort of expected a phone call and didn't [TS]

01:04:18   get it so I'm a little bit my nose a [TS]

01:04:20   little out of joint and just thought I [TS]

01:04:22   should tell you do you like it when [TS]

01:04:23   people talk about that with you [TS]

01:04:26   yeah yeah because I'm like oh wow like [TS]

01:04:29   okay brings not necessarily like an [TS]

01:04:31   angry thing that may be a clarification [TS]

01:04:32   thing you like when people bring you [TS]

01:04:34   some things to sort of redress and all [TS]

01:04:35   over em but it happens so rarely because [TS]

01:04:40   it is embarrassing and also it requires [TS]

01:04:42   that you be processing your own feelings [TS]

01:04:44   in real time so that you know oh you [TS]

01:04:47   know like i have a problem here it's [TS]

01:04:49   mostly my problem [TS]

01:04:51   soso but it's so hard to talk it's one [TS]

01:04:53   of those things where like there's so [TS]

01:04:54   many things I wish we could talk about [TS]

01:04:55   without all the emotional valence and [TS]

01:04:57   nothing is more emotional valence and [TS]

01:04:59   talking about feelings so it's very very [TS]

01:05:01   difficult to talk about feelings as a [TS]

01:05:03   thing without it becoming this sounds [TS]

01:05:06   really obvious but i think it's not it's [TS]

01:05:08   it you can you can talk about all kinds [TS]

01:05:10   of things in kind of intellectually but [TS]

01:05:12   it's difficult to talk about your [TS]

01:05:13   feelings without talking about your [TS]

01:05:14   feelings [TS]

01:05:15   yeah you try talking about it as a thing [TS]

01:05:17   without injecting this understandably [TS]

01:05:20   irrational blind spot that you have in [TS]

01:05:23   your heart and defensive nas's the [TS]

01:05:25   immediate reaction on for most people [TS]

01:05:27   right [TS]

01:05:28   I you know hey I wanted to talk about [TS]

01:05:30   this I feel bad well that's not my [TS]

01:05:32   problem and it's like well I wasn't [TS]

01:05:34   saying what's your problem i was saying [TS]

01:05:36   is my problem but involves you and well [TS]

01:05:38   and that's and I'm not asking for a [TS]

01:05:40   solution and after I'm just you know I [TS]

01:05:42   feel like the solution is probably in me [TS]

01:05:44   telling you it and then you telling me [TS]

01:05:46   that that's either a like reasonable or [TS]

01:05:49   unreasonable and I was talking about but [TS]

01:05:51   but you know in so many cases the [TS]

01:05:53   reaction is from people of all stripes [TS]

01:05:56   like whoa why are you coming to me with [TS]

01:06:01   this like what do you want from and that [TS]

01:06:04   and so it's only in your very most [TS]

01:06:06   intimate relationships where you're [TS]

01:06:07   forced to learn to talk about your [TS]

01:06:09   feelings and even that is super [TS]

01:06:12   difficult but like I have so many guy [TS]

01:06:14   friends from long long times and i'll [TS]

01:06:19   say how God here's my feelings and my [TS]

01:06:21   other feelings are my feelings and they [TS]

01:06:22   listened politely and then you know [TS]

01:06:26   there's sort of that moment where you [TS]

01:06:28   like okay tag now you reciprocate and [TS]

01:06:35   they go well everything is probably [TS]

01:06:36   going to turn out ok [TS]

01:06:38   hey did you ever notice [TS]

01:06:39   that some you know some girls mothers [TS]

01:06:43   are bigger than other girls mothers [TS]

01:06:44   right and I'm like whoa why without you [TS]

01:06:47   know like i just gave you like all this [TS]

01:06:49   interesting Grist and they're like yep [TS]

01:06:54   but I don't run a mill so oh you just [TS]

01:06:58   gave me a big bag wrist and I don't know [TS]

01:07:01   what to do with it going to ya goin in [TS]

01:07:03   the bar and I have nowhere to put they [TS]

01:07:05   have nowhere to put this Grist and also [TS]

01:07:07   i think chris is not what you want in [TS]

01:07:08   the milk yeah oh well you're breaking my [TS]

01:07:10   milk you know its IP like my [TS]

01:07:12   non-existent nipple when winter comes I [TS]

01:07:14   might use this Grist in the dry cleaners [TS]

01:07:16   coming you know winter is coming [TS]

01:07:19   yeah I get so so so that always makes me [TS]

01:07:22   feel ultimately like not that my friends [TS]

01:07:26   are insufficient because it's almost [TS]

01:07:28   universal among my friends but it makes [TS]

01:07:30   me feel like I'm i'm asking too much or [TS]

01:07:32   I want something unreasonable and that [TS]

01:07:35   kind of piles back on me like not only [TS]

01:07:38   do I have these feelings not only do I [TS]

01:07:40   want to express these feelings to my [TS]

01:07:42   people and have them reciprocate but [TS]

01:07:46   that is an unreasonable desire which [TS]

01:07:50   again puts me in touch with the world so [TS]

01:07:54   then I'm sitting there like what is [TS]

01:07:56   their else to do but suck your thumb [TS]

01:07:59   I mean I suppose I could write a novel [TS]

01:08:01   it seems like people write novels for [TS]

01:08:03   that reason maybe yeah but you're [TS]

01:08:05   looking for something fairly specific um [TS]

01:08:09   I don't expect gender but i think this [TS]

01:08:13   has something to do with gender & [TS]

01:08:14   something to do with the time in the era [TS]

01:08:16   but you're looking for something that [TS]

01:08:19   would have fit much more comfortably [TS]

01:08:21   into i'm going to say the early to mid [TS]

01:08:23   seventies when a time when it was it was [TS]

01:08:26   just kind of expected that you would [TS]

01:08:28   talk a lot about lots of different kinds [TS]

01:08:30   of things things that could be awkward I [TS]

01:08:32   want to really get down documentary [TS]

01:08:34   first part of a documentary about [TS]

01:08:35   basically the birth of the starting 15 [TS]

01:08:39   anyway of the women various women's [TS]

01:08:41   movements that was very interesting [TS]

01:08:42   about all the different offshoots in the [TS]

01:08:44   groups and you know who felt left out [TS]

01:08:45   where and but there's just this constant [TS]

01:08:47   threat of like talking about our life [TS]

01:08:48   talking about our life he lived [TS]

01:08:49   experience [TS]

01:08:51   and I think that was something that was [TS]

01:08:53   considered very appropriate and [TS]

01:08:56   important at a certain time in a way [TS]

01:08:57   that it's not right now [TS]

01:08:58   well I always felt that that I think [TS]

01:09:00   they're absolutely right that there is [TS]

01:09:02   something like gender encoded in it I [TS]

01:09:05   always felt like the men of the [TS]

01:09:06   seventies were talking about their [TS]

01:09:07   feelings were doing it as a form of [TS]

01:09:09   warfare [TS]

01:09:10   well that certainly is borne out by this [TS]

01:09:12   documentary but yeah it's just it's just [TS]

01:09:14   kind of its inherent in it you see the [TS]

01:09:16   hippie dads are like well let's sit and [TS]

01:09:18   talk about our feelings and what they [TS]

01:09:19   mean is fuck you you know mines I'm [TS]

01:09:21   totally gonna get laid for this right [TS]

01:09:23   I'm gonna get later I'm gonna I'm gonna [TS]

01:09:25   come out the other side and will be [TS]

01:09:26   proved right but like what would [TS]

01:09:29   traditionally all of my closest friends [TS]

01:09:30   have been women and back before [TS]

01:09:34   gender normative was a term back when [TS]

01:09:37   you know times were less poor what were [TS]

01:09:40   more primitive i used to say that i felt [TS]

01:09:42   like i had a female mind that I you know [TS]

01:09:46   that my best friends were all women and [TS]

01:09:48   I could you know and I was more [TS]

01:09:50   comfortable thinking in thinking in what [TS]

01:09:53   I at the time would have called like Oh [TS]

01:09:56   a womanly way about things I was [TS]

01:10:00   processing things socially I was [TS]

01:10:02   probably just have to organization to [TS]

01:10:04   potentially avoid a minefield here and I [TS]

01:10:06   don't need to correct you but i think [TS]

01:10:07   it's it's not we're saying in terms of [TS]

01:10:09   of like what gear you got under your [TS]

01:10:13   belt gender but in a more in thinking [TS]

01:10:15   more like again and yang sort of way [TS]

01:10:17   right yes I mean I don't more feminine [TS]

01:10:19   more like open generative what is [TS]

01:10:21   typically associated don't is that fair [TS]

01:10:23   to say sure and I don't and I feel like [TS]

01:10:26   I'm you know I'm I'm apologizing to say [TS]

01:10:28   this advanced yeah I'm apologizing in [TS]

01:10:31   advance by saying that this is that this [TS]

01:10:33   description of my thinking was located [TS]

01:10:36   in the past so I don't need any email [TS]

01:10:38   but you know that in contrast to all of [TS]

01:10:43   my male friends who just you just are [TS]

01:10:46   glassy eyed when I try to talk to them [TS]

01:10:48   about this and the problem is that my [TS]

01:10:50   that my a woman friends who we can sit [TS]

01:10:54   and talk this way about all kinds of [TS]

01:10:56   things they're not as receptive to me [TS]

01:10:59   talking about my [TS]

01:11:01   I I relationship issues now for whatever [TS]

01:11:06   reason because everyone is so where were [TS]

01:11:08   older everyone has partnered off it said [TS]

01:11:11   it's a different world and there I don't [TS]

01:11:14   have that same kind of access to you [TS]

01:11:18   know like a group of women that accept [TS]

01:11:21   me as one of their own and that we can [TS]

01:11:23   talk about stuff sort of freewheeling [TS]

01:11:25   and there's always you know there's also [TS]

01:11:27   there's always energy and chemistry in [TS]

01:11:29   those relationships where where there [TS]

01:11:31   are often feelings of like well we're [TS]

01:11:33   really good friends [TS]

01:11:35   Oh feelings from both directions like [TS]

01:11:36   we're really good friends we talked so [TS]

01:11:38   well together eventually we're going to [TS]

01:11:41   fall fall into a romantic relationship [TS]

01:11:43   with one another but in the meantime [TS]

01:11:44   let's enjoy this this like closeness [TS]

01:11:49   that we feel and that's just not thats [TS]

01:11:52   that's much less a part of my just daily [TS]

01:11:55   world than it was 15 years ago and so [TS]

01:12:00   I'm you know I so there is something [TS]

01:12:03   sort of tribal about it to that I'm like [TS]

01:12:07   one of the one of the males that got [TS]

01:12:12   pushed out of the herd a little bit as [TS]

01:12:15   the herd matured you know like a just [TS]

01:12:18   sort of an old an old dear that like [TS]

01:12:23   little by little the social pressures of [TS]

01:12:25   the deer herd like well you go find your [TS]

01:12:29   own turf just stand here and watch your [TS]

01:12:31   stories don't like there's some salt [TS]

01:12:34   you're a 24-point dear now and they're [TS]

01:12:38   just not room for your antlers here and [TS]

01:12:41   and yea big [TS]

01:12:44   maybe you're 2.2 it's making me you know [TS]

01:12:49   like I'm just ripe I'm I'm that like I'm [TS]

01:12:52   in the crosshairs of every hunter in the [TS]

01:12:54   county so so that's I guess why all the [TS]

01:12:59   daydreaming [TS]

01:13:00   did you get a chance to get on the track [TS]

01:13:02   in my day dream no yeah i mean they did [TS]

01:13:05   so what happened I mean if I could ask [TS]

01:13:06   you you kind of left me on help me [TS]

01:13:08   hanging here [TS]

01:13:09   did you take the bat sure he took the [TS]

01:13:12   bed i beat the kid in three in three [TS]

01:13:14   I posited i pocketed the 40 grand again [TS]

01:13:18   like without with a with a swagger and [TS]

01:13:21   in a little way like this 40 grand still [TS]

01:13:23   here in my pocket like when it comes [TS]

01:13:26   time when in the race the carburetor [TS]

01:13:31   breaks and we're a scrappy little a [TS]

01:13:34   little wet wipes team and the guys up [TS]

01:13:37   ahead officer like rubbing their hands [TS]

01:13:39   can go on back [TS]

01:13:40   haha where but we can't lose you know [TS]

01:13:44   what they're going to lose and by that [TS]

01:13:46   we cannot lose then I pull the 40 grand [TS]

01:13:48   out throw it down on the table and say [TS]

01:13:49   get a new carburetor right like you over [TS]

01:13:53   to no excuse [TS]

01:13:54   yeah go over to the rich team and throw [TS]

01:13:57   that 40 grand down and that's [TS]

01:13:58   slicked-back hair sleazeball who runs [TS]

01:14:02   the rich team [TS]

01:14:02   yeah it's gonna take it he's gonna take [TS]

01:14:05   it as a dare a challenge to his own [TS]

01:14:07   thing and he's gonna say you know what [TS]

01:14:10   I'm going to sell you that carburetor [TS]

01:14:11   because i feel like i'm still gonna beat [TS]

01:14:13   you i'm gonna give you the part because [TS]

01:14:15   I feel like I feel like when I thought [TS]

01:14:18   when I do beat you [TS]

01:14:19   it's going to quadruple your shame [TS]

01:14:21   because I didn't keep the part from you [TS]

01:14:24   you know but it's also a little [TS]

01:14:25   sportsman like to it's in the spirit of [TS]

01:14:27   sportsmanship so that 40 grams going to [TS]

01:14:30   come back into the story I didn't play [TS]

01:14:32   that's that I didn't play the story out [TS]

01:14:34   that me I mean you don't get ahead of [TS]

01:14:36   yourself you know when you're ready [TS]

01:14:37   you'll go to the next chapter [TS]

01:14:38   yeah so i just i got as far as coming [TS]

01:14:40   you know climbing out of the NASCAR and [TS]

01:14:43   the kid you know the the whiny kid is [TS]

01:14:45   like well it's not fair because he [TS]

01:14:47   blankety blankety blankety Thursday [TS]

01:14:49   throws helmet on the ground really hard [TS]

01:14:50   through someone on the ground and then [TS]

01:14:51   and then the manager boys the manager [TS]

01:14:55   put his hand up in the kids faces like [TS]

01:14:57   you know pack your bag noho right and [TS]

01:15:01   then it's because he's looking at me [TS]

01:15:02   he's like what do you got [TS]

01:15:04   how do you do it at your age especially [TS]

01:15:07   and I'm like stamina is one of the [TS]

01:15:11   things [TS]

01:15:12   just so at this point you had you just [TS]

01:15:15   made your point you you slink off [TS]

01:15:17   nothing coffee carry yourself like a [TS]

01:15:19   gentleman doodoo head out through the [TS]

01:15:20   fence again don't know this is the [TS]

01:15:22   beginning of a wonderful relationship [TS]

01:15:24   yeah this is the beginning of the fall [TS]

01:15:26   beautiful friendship as they set up a [TS]

01:15:27   one-year relationship uh-huh right [TS]

01:15:30   because I'm gonna take this underdog [TS]

01:15:31   team to the championship ring in one [TS]

01:15:34   year and then i'm going to disappear [TS]

01:15:37   again I don't know what I'm gonna walk [TS]

01:15:38   out walk out of the grandstand and [TS]

01:15:41   somebody's gonna go [TS]

01:15:42   hey ace and i'm going to turn around and [TS]

01:15:45   they're going to say it's probably Susan [TS]

01:15:47   Sarandon yeah yeah she's gonna say we're [TS]

01:15:50   gonna see you next year and then I'm [TS]

01:15:53   gonna like I don't know twirl my fedora [TS]

01:15:55   or or take my time I stick pin and toss [TS]

01:15:59   it to her yeah she shouldn't have the [TS]

01:16:01   scorecard and it's got its got a [TS]

01:16:02   lipstick kiss on it [TS]

01:16:04   lipstick kiss on it right maybe I take a [TS]

01:16:05   sawed-off shotgun out of my knickers [TS]

01:16:07   fired into the ceiling [TS]

01:16:09   what up for the whiskey Clank Clank [TS]

01:16:12   Clank don't know how is flat on the film [TS]

01:16:15   and there are a lot of population yeah [TS]

01:16:17   well you know we just discussed [TS]

01:16:19   spitballin spitball mm this is this is [TS]

01:16:21   what it's like in the writers room [TS]

01:16:23   well sure of all these sitcoms that you [TS]

01:16:26   know I follow so many people that work [TS]

01:16:27   in in sitcoms right men writing and [TS]

01:16:30   writing and I saw a picture after the [TS]

01:16:34   emmys this year of someone i know Neil [TS]

01:16:38   taken me with about 30 other people [TS]

01:16:41   30 other dopes and they're all holding [TS]

01:16:44   Emmy yeah and the person I knew who is [TS]

01:16:46   taking me [TS]

01:16:48   I said she can't possibly have also won [TS]

01:16:52   an Emmy for that show because I know [TS]

01:16:53   what she does on it and please God [TS]

01:16:57   because it's not a good program [TS]

01:16:59   I've never seen the program ok but you [TS]

01:17:03   can look at you enemies for all kinds of [TS]

01:17:04   stuff [TS]

01:17:05   well that's what I'm saying and I'm [TS]

01:17:06   thinking to myself if you can just be [TS]

01:17:09   just win an Emmy like all these clowns [TS]

01:17:13   yeah well I've made a terrible choice in [TS]

01:17:15   life to not be in one of those rooms [TS]

01:17:18   sitting there sharpening pencils or [TS]

01:17:19   whatever you know or or particularly [TS]

01:17:23   talk about a technical a me [TS]

01:17:25   or something right i mean why am I not [TS]

01:17:27   sit enthroned cards into a hat for [TS]

01:17:30   throwing cards through a pumpkin [TS]

01:17:32   yeah whatever you're throwing cars [TS]

01:17:34   through a watermelon and a watermelon [TS]

01:17:36   and in that room when somebody waltzes [TS]

01:17:41   in and says you know what everybody in [TS]

01:17:42   this room won an Emmy because it's not [TS]

01:17:44   you specifically it's the room that one [TS]

01:17:47   miami oh IC right the plural like a [TS]

01:17:50   plural you I'm never going to be in a [TS]

01:17:52   room that wins an emmy man i don't think [TS]

01:17:55   you might you might surprise yourself [TS]

01:17:57   you might you might surprise yourself i [TS]

01:18:01   see i think i see you as maybe like your [TS]

01:18:03   guests you're like a guest star [TS]

01:18:06   yep or karate for like I still think [TS]

01:18:08   I've said this to you for 10 years now [TS]

01:18:10   PBS documentary I'm telling you you know [TS]

01:18:13   all those people whose career in [TS]

01:18:14   Hollywood doesn't start until they're 60 [TS]

01:18:17   safety like the grandma moses of emmy [TS]

01:18:19   awards [TS]

01:18:20   yeah right i'm gonna i'm gonna have a [TS]

01:18:22   career of whatever my current career is [TS]

01:18:24   sure and then at some point somebody's [TS]

01:18:26   I'm gonna be sitting in a soda shop e [TS]

01:18:28   uh-huh having a malted and somebody's [TS]

01:18:31   gonna waltz in and say we're looking for [TS]

01:18:33   the new lebowski yeah or we want [TS]

01:18:36   somebody to play the old trapper or [TS]

01:18:39   maybe uh maybe Silicon Valley types have [TS]

01:18:44   aged in the next 15 years and now the [TS]

01:18:48   instead of the trope being like [TS]

01:18:50   20-something Kalos driving Stanford grad [TS]

01:18:54   yeah the new trope is so although [TS]

01:18:56   Silicon Valley entrepreneurs are like [TS]

01:18:59   thrashed from years of drinking Soylent [TS]

01:19:03   oh I said he never talking about their [TS]

01:19:05   bodies ravaged yeah and now they look 60 [TS]

01:19:08   when they're actually 40 and because i [TS]

01:19:10   have vitality sure it's women stamina [TS]

01:19:13   got stamina when I'm 60 I'm going to [TS]

01:19:15   read as a thrashed forty-year-old I see [TS]

01:19:19   you can play you can play thrashed oh [TS]

01:19:20   yeah absolutely i noticed the other day [TS]

01:19:23   i was walking along and I was trying to [TS]

01:19:25   imagine being cast in a in a film as the [TS]

01:19:30   wise but stoned [TS]

01:19:33   sort of sage friend of the protagonist [TS]

01:19:36   and interesting right the slightly [TS]

01:19:42   stoned because that's what that's what [TS]

01:19:43   makes his it contextualizes this Aegis [TS]

01:19:46   you can't just have the friend of the [TS]

01:19:49   protagonist just be a flat-out sage [TS]

01:19:52   there's got to be something some chink [TS]

01:19:54   in his armor [TS]

01:19:55   mmm that that makes you that makes him [TS]

01:19:58   relatable and so in this case it would [TS]

01:20:01   be like oh sure he's like some he's a [TS]

01:20:04   burnout m and so I was walking along [TS]

01:20:07   practicing my burnout eyes mmm [TS]

01:20:11   but you know the burnout eyes have to [TS]

01:20:13   not be so burned out there not like that [TS]

01:20:16   guy that the the white guy in all the [TS]

01:20:19   dave chappelle skits who plays the [TS]

01:20:21   stoner mhm it they have to have the BF [TS]

01:20:24   have eyes that communicate [TS]

01:20:27   I smoked a lot of weed but maybe I don't [TS]

01:20:29   smoke it anymore [TS]

01:20:31   maybe now I'm just I'm just taking it in [TS]

01:20:33   in pill form and it's not in its not its [TS]

01:20:37   not hindering my ability to be smart and [TS]

01:20:40   present but it has given me insight into [TS]

01:20:43   the sea the sea writ large [TS]

01:20:46   yeah uh-huh and so I was walking along [TS]

01:20:49   as practicing my stoner eyes which I [TS]

01:20:51   understood to be who lifted heavy lidded [TS]

01:20:54   but with eyebrows up [TS]

01:20:57   oh I'm doing it now i can see exactly [TS]

01:20:59   what you mean so you make you make the [TS]

01:21:01   lids of the eyes like kinda but then [TS]

01:21:04   eyebrows up because you're like in [TS]

01:21:06   you're in it you're in the game you're [TS]

01:21:07   not just like asleep I browser up with [TS]

01:21:10   your lids are heavy and then yeah and [TS]

01:21:12   then kind of you know you're just you're [TS]

01:21:14   talking softly but it's not it's more [TS]

01:21:16   like stoner voice no no right you're [TS]

01:21:19   talking but you have a normal voice but [TS]

01:21:21   it's a little bit like softer a little [TS]

01:21:23   bit of little bit of a book fri yeah and [TS]

01:21:27   you're really speak elliptically and [TS]

01:21:29   sometimes accidentally come upon [TS]

01:21:30   something that could really brilliant [TS]

01:21:32   just kind of slide down here where the [TS]

01:21:33   room is floored [TS]

01:21:34   yeah that's it that's it that's why [TS]

01:21:35   you're there that's the whole reason you [TS]

01:21:37   get rid of [TS]

01:21:38   plot to it's not exactly shaggy it's not [TS]

01:21:41   exactly the bow ski and it's not quite [TS]

01:21:42   morgan freeman no no but he's like I got [TS]

01:21:45   this [TS]

01:21:45   you know I have this problem that is the [TS]

01:21:47   artificial problem that is at the center [TS]

01:21:49   of this film sure we need that and and [TS]

01:21:52   you know and like you're here because [TS]

01:21:55   you because you're the protagonists wise [TS]

01:21:58   friend and but it said but here's the [TS]

01:22:01   here's the gag right here's how I win an [TS]

01:22:04   award to make a wolf [TS]

01:22:06   yeah this is this is a serious film it's [TS]

01:22:09   not a comedy it's not a stoner comedy [TS]

01:22:10   ah the the so the wise stoned friend is [TS]

01:22:15   actually like the the the caddy or the [TS]

01:22:19   limo driver right outside somebody in a [TS]

01:22:22   in a Drama you let your attorney here [TS]

01:22:25   the magical negro [TS]

01:22:26   yeah that's right there's there are real [TS]

01:22:28   stakes here and uh and i'm somewhat [TS]

01:22:31   maybe mystical mi really there did I [TS]

01:22:34   come through the cloud room and this is [TS]

01:22:36   the clothes and this is where because [TS]

01:22:39   it's a tech documentary I maybe I came [TS]

01:22:40   through the clewd who but but so I i [TS]

01:22:44   have this wisdom but I'm also like it's [TS]

01:22:46   it's like a good will hunting situation [TS]

01:22:48   where where maybe there's an Oscar and [TS]

01:22:51   for me [TS]

01:22:52   oh now are you are you run Williams or [TS]

01:22:54   or the are Matt Damon I i think in this [TS]

01:22:58   scenario i'm robin williams is too late [TS]

01:22:59   for me to be mad game [TS]

01:23:00   hmm i had a window I'd a window where I [TS]

01:23:03   could have been mad and I was to window [TS]

01:23:04   I was do another thing [TS]

01:23:06   yeah yeah but now i feel like i could be [TS]

01:23:08   the robin williams in a film that can be [TS]

01:23:10   very effective John right i think i [TS]

01:23:12   would enjoy it enjoy the movie is there [TS]

01:23:14   are tears coming to your eyes right now [TS]

01:23:15   a little bit around a little high right [TS]

01:23:17   now [TS]

01:23:18   yeah i can try and catch a nap today [TS]

01:23:20   well I've got I've got one major [TS]

01:23:26   dramatic thing going on in my life which [TS]

01:23:29   is that there are a couple of people [TS]

01:23:31   want just one major one just like okay [TS]

01:23:33   alright get just one today well it's [TS]

01:23:35   actually a two-part problem there are [TS]

01:23:37   two people both of whom so actually [TS]

01:23:40   actually three people but only two of [TS]

01:23:43   them [TS]

01:23:44   ok so there are three people do you want [TS]

01:23:46   this on the show [TS]

01:23:47   well I'm I'm I'm adjudicating I'm [TS]

01:23:51   can you hear you find finding your way [TS]

01:23:54   through the hedge maze again [TS]

01:23:55   yeah Here I am hedge maze i'm trying to [TS]

01:23:56   find the way this is there are three [TS]

01:23:59   people all three of whom are struggling [TS]

01:24:02   with drugs and alcohol [TS]

01:24:03   oh no that wasn't what I expected yeah [TS]

01:24:06   and three people struggling in very [TS]

01:24:09   different ways are you [TS]

01:24:10   sponsors for them as well so I so they [TS]

01:24:14   have all three of them reached out to me [TS]

01:24:16   from their various quadrants of the [TS]

01:24:18   world saying and some of them are not in [TS]

01:24:21   Seattle but are here in seattle now and [TS]

01:24:24   all three of them are like I'm in this [TS]

01:24:26   situation I don't know how to proceed [TS]

01:24:29   and I might you know my traditional [TS]

01:24:32   method of handling this situation is [TS]

01:24:34   like well do you really want to do [TS]

01:24:35   something about it or just bullshitting [TS]

01:24:36   me because I don't need it i don't need [TS]

01:24:38   more bullshit and I was talking to a [TS]

01:24:42   fourth friend a woman with with much [TS]

01:24:44   experience in life and she said um [TS]

01:24:48   apropos of nothing like we were not [TS]

01:24:51   talking about this situation all we're [TS]

01:24:52   talking about something else and she [TS]

01:24:54   said I just feel like I need to be [TS]

01:24:57   giving back all the time and I need to [TS]

01:25:00   be practicing the humility of giving [TS]

01:25:03   back without ranking my contribution or [TS]

01:25:07   ranking the receiver of my contribution [TS]

01:25:10   but just like Here I am I'm person in [TS]

01:25:13   the world what can I do well just like [TS]

01:25:14   doing with a full heart [TS]

01:25:16   yeah you don't have to be you don't have [TS]

01:25:17   to be somebody that I want something [TS]

01:25:20   from or somebody important for me to [TS]

01:25:21   help you and i'm not i'm not taking this [TS]

01:25:26   off I'm not putting this in a bank [TS]

01:25:28   anywhere and so I took that I took her [TS]

01:25:31   advice to be a a message from the the [TS]

01:25:37   Great Spirit and I realized oh I was [TS]

01:25:40   kinda I was not doing my work I was not [TS]

01:25:43   doing my job for these three people each [TS]

01:25:45   in their own way they all came at once [TS]

01:25:47   and I needed to be more selfless here [TS]

01:25:52   and actually not say are you serious [TS]

01:25:55   about this because I've got a I've got [TS]

01:25:58   jewels to stack right but say like what [TS]

01:26:01   can i do i'll meet you for me for [TS]

01:26:03   something for that [TS]

01:26:04   and uh and so what I have what I have [TS]

01:26:09   orchestrated is that I'm going to meet [TS]

01:26:12   one of the people and then he and i are [TS]

01:26:17   going to go visit the second person so x [TS]

01:26:22   so x that the the first person is going [TS]

01:26:27   to be now also part of the operation to [TS]

01:26:33   help the second person and helping the [TS]

01:26:35   second person will help the first person [TS]

01:26:37   on my goodness [TS]

01:26:38   ok and help me yes so that's in my plan [TS]

01:26:42   for the afternoon but I've only had a [TS]

01:26:46   three-and-a-half hours of sleep even [TS]

01:26:47   lineup jewels and feel little cookie [TS]

01:26:50   wawa and I'm not sure whether that makes [TS]

01:26:53   me more helpful less helpful or just [TS]

01:26:56   maybe i'm just maybe I'm the the person [TS]

01:26:58   that's in the present the one is going [TS]

01:26:59   to get help the most you never know [TS]

01:27:01   maybe that's right maybe I'm the one [TS]

01:27:02   living in the real world today and not [TS]

01:27:04   my imagination so a but i really want to [TS]

01:27:11   take a nap and I'm thinking kind can i [TS]

01:27:14   fit nap into all of this i don't i don't [TS]

01:27:18   maybe maybe not sure little shorty would [TS]

01:27:21   help me look for the 20 minute nap it [TS]

01:27:23   might help [TS]

01:27:24   well how do you feel about an hour and a [TS]

01:27:25   half long now that's the perfect now [TS]

01:27:26   using our happens it's not so much that [TS]

01:27:29   matches up with your rhythms you gotta [TS]

01:27:31   find out what your specific rhythm in [TS]

01:27:32   the 90 minutes is about what the rhythm [TS]

01:27:34   is your day like it down you can get [TS]

01:27:36   down get down get funky getting funky [TS]

01:27:39   you can get back up right reasons gonna [TS]

01:27:41   get you [TS]

01:27:42   mhm is going to get to em and your thing [TS]

01:27:49   you do is you can put your phone in [TS]

01:27:51   another room in like airplane mode or [TS]

01:27:54   something turned off you plug in [TS]

01:27:55   Michigan some power for the day and also [TS]

01:27:57   you're not going to line up tools let me [TS]

01:27:59   ask you this [TS]

01:27:59   yeah is that real anymore is that a [TS]

01:28:02   realistic expectation anymore not even [TS]

01:28:04   started by we fought our phones for a [TS]

01:28:07   long time [TS]

01:28:07   yeah we did we it wasn't even much of a [TS]

01:28:10   valiant fight not not many of us really [TS]

01:28:13   put up a fight but we fought that we [TS]

01:28:15   made a game attempt at it we put it over [TS]

01:28:17   there we [TS]

01:28:18   shut it off we went out for the day [TS]

01:28:19   without it but is it real anymore that [TS]

01:28:25   we're is that a game that we're even [TS]

01:28:26   going to keep playing [TS]

01:28:27   I don't know I turned a corner at some [TS]

01:28:29   point in the last definitely last year [TS]

01:28:31   probably the last few months I was like [TS]

01:28:32   well now this is just a thing now like I [TS]

01:28:35   there's so much stuff I i do I don't [TS]

01:28:39   want to put too strongly but I really do [TS]

01:28:40   feel like rely upon there's the one [TS]

01:28:42   thing of like I need to know if [TS]

01:28:43   something happened in my little world [TS]

01:28:45   that I have to take care of right now [TS]

01:28:46   that's always been a thing I could have [TS]

01:28:49   a flip phone for that but honestly for [TS]

01:28:50   things like even if it's just stuff like [TS]

01:28:51   you know [TS]

01:28:53   yeah paying for something with Apple pay [TS]

01:28:54   or for being able to look something up [TS]

01:28:56   or whatever I I don't know I I feel like [TS]

01:29:00   for better or for worse it's definitely [TS]

01:29:02   gone from being something I make fun of [TS]

01:29:04   everybody about to go well this is kind [TS]

01:29:06   of the new normal new norm [TS]

01:29:08   I mean you no not again I don't say that [TS]

01:29:10   well that's good or bad but I'm saying [TS]

01:29:12   it's it's not as weird as it used to be [TS]

01:29:15   i just realized that if Google if the [TS]

01:29:21   goog look again if the google had put [TS]

01:29:23   out a phone that wasn't trying to be [TS]

01:29:26   every phone for everybody [TS]

01:29:28   it wasn't trying to be all things to all [TS]

01:29:30   people but google had put out a phone [TS]

01:29:32   that just googled Oh think about that [TS]

01:29:36   prong google and put out a google phone [TS]

01:29:38   that phoned and googled only mmm [TS]

01:29:42   there was no other app it did perform no [TS]

01:29:45   other function i guess it just just a [TS]

01:29:48   good it's almost like this emergency [TS]

01:29:50   phones you can get like for a kid or [TS]

01:29:51   keeping your car it's got a really long [TS]

01:29:53   life and but it's only meant to be used [TS]

01:29:55   like you see in this case like if I [TS]

01:29:57   really really need to find Hamilton [TS]

01:29:59   tickets i do it right now if I need to [TS]

01:30:00   find where the closest you know I knew [TS]

01:30:03   the places [TS]

01:30:04   well because I send my spend most of my [TS]

01:30:06   time on my phone on you know using the [TS]

01:30:09   google to to get around [TS]

01:30:11   sure and I don't need other stuff i [TS]

01:30:16   really don't i don't need other stuff i [TS]

01:30:18   can i can interact mostly with the world [TS]

01:30:21   through cuz I'm just trying to figure [TS]

01:30:24   out when this building was built [TS]

01:30:26   I'm trying to figure out what the [TS]

01:30:27   infield fly rule is yeah I'm trying to [TS]

01:30:29   figure out who sank the Lusitania [TS]

01:30:31   somebody somebody actually asked me the [TS]

01:30:34   other day who I thought something main [TS]

01:30:36   like really likes that was the spanish [TS]

01:30:40   well no I mean though there's the [TS]

01:30:43   conspiracy theorists say that we sank [TS]

01:30:44   the main oh yeah who do we say sacaton [TS]

01:30:46   all the Spanish thats persist [TS]

01:30:49   precipitated the spanish-american war i [TS]

01:30:51   am of the opinion that it was an [TS]

01:30:54   accident but I couldn't believe that I [TS]

01:30:57   was being in treated into the [TS]

01:30:59   conversation who sank the mean and I [TS]

01:31:02   feel like that's the kind of thing I [TS]

01:31:05   mean I don't need google to answer that [TS]

01:31:06   question but in the course of a day [TS]

01:31:08   there are just enough things that I need [TS]

01:31:10   to resort to google that that not [TS]

01:31:13   carrying my phone just doesn't feel [TS]

01:31:14   smart because because I used to sit and [TS]

01:31:18   think like well I don't know how many [TS]

01:31:20   how many angels can dance on the head of [TS]

01:31:23   a pin and I let that go [TS]

01:31:25   it would be now no way to find out but [TS]

01:31:28   no way to find out is just like well [TS]

01:31:30   maybe when i get home i can look at the [TS]

01:31:31   Encyclopedia if I care that much but i [TS]

01:31:33   don't but now if somebody says how many [TS]

01:31:35   angels can dance on the head of a pin [TS]

01:31:37   I'm like I'd sure like to know that now [TS]

01:31:39   that you brought it up and you google it [TS]

01:31:41   and the internets never gonna lie to you [TS]

01:31:44   and then you know and then you go down [TS]

01:31:46   there we go through the rest of your [TS]

01:31:47   life going like I one time I did a [TS]

01:31:50   little research on that i did a little [TS]

01:31:52   bit already recently i kinda want to try [TS]

01:31:55   it [TS]

01:31:56   how many angels can dance on the nominee [TS]

01:31:58   angels can dance on the head of a pin [TS]

01:32:00   I haven't I have a group of that reason [TS]

01:32:04   she gives me a link to wiki it doesn't [TS]

01:32:05   really provide an answer [TS]

01:32:07   yeah okay let's say that wikipedia phone [TS]

01:32:10   wikipedia phone you don't even need [TS]

01:32:12   google google just gonna end up [TS]

01:32:14   directing you to a yelp review is a [TS]

01:32:16   happy meal if I that's right and if i [TS]

01:32:20   could i think there are a lot of people [TS]

01:32:21   who would just carry your phone and [TS]

01:32:24   those were the people i would exclude [TS]

01:32:25   from my log would love some kind of [TS]

01:32:26   beacon let me know in their nearby right [TS]

01:32:28   somebody would like a little Yelp symbol [TS]

01:32:30   hovering over their head that you could [TS]

01:32:32   just has a a as a mario brother you [TS]

01:32:36   could just like blanc them unless [TS]

01:32:38   they're calling and you know [TS]

01:32:40   tell their running game and party but if [TS]

01:32:44   I had just a wiki phone [TS]

01:32:45   wikipedia from that did nothing else [TS]

01:32:47   just wiki'd i think i would just carry [TS]

01:32:50   that I think I would [TS]

01:32:52   well wait a minute we need a camera and [TS]

01:32:53   then see the whole thing the wheels come [TS]

01:32:55   off [TS]

01:32:55   ah if your wiki phone has a camera yeah [TS]

01:32:58   then then it might as well be an iphone [TS]

01:33:00   yeah there are 0 [TS]