Roderick on the Line

Ep. 215: "Occasional Live Keyboardist"


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00:00:21   hello hi John hi Merlin how's it going [TS]

00:00:26   good how are you going good thanks for [TS]

00:00:31   starting late today [TS]

00:00:32   well I understand that you had a big [TS]

00:00:34   apple event but and something about a [TS]

00:00:38   new iphone came out that had some things [TS]

00:00:40   that you need to know about yeah I as as [TS]

00:00:42   they're being announced need to know [TS]

00:00:44   about him [TS]

00:00:44   yeah so I so I understood totally that [TS]

00:00:48   you would need to you know postpone our [TS]

00:00:50   regular are already once postponed [TS]

00:00:53   podcast school in order to go to what I [TS]

00:00:58   presume the television or did you go to [TS]

00:01:00   a library or something to watch the big [TS]

00:01:04   the big reveal where someone in a black [TS]

00:01:06   turtleneck walks around with the with [TS]

00:01:09   the digital pointer how did it go [TS]

00:01:12   this is an actual question well yeah i'm [TS]

00:01:14   not sure i've never want you could just [TS]

00:01:15   said you're welcome but you know no no [TS]

00:01:18   it's a the the black turtleneck was a [TS]

00:01:21   Steve thing now it's mostly guys in [TS]

00:01:24   their sixties in untucked blue shirts [TS]

00:01:26   all this untucked shirt thing uh-huh [TS]

00:01:30   was that meant to communicate um I don't [TS]

00:01:33   know this seems like a very you know it [TS]

00:01:35   is it's like business casual in the [TS]

00:01:37   nineties wear it it isn't what it sounds [TS]

00:01:40   like [TS]

00:01:40   like I think there's a pretty well [TS]

00:01:42   described or understood dress code for [TS]

00:01:46   these kinds of things which is you where [TS]

00:01:47   you were some kind of a slack that you [TS]

00:01:50   are slack a trouser then you're a [TS]

00:01:51   chicken black mm eats anywhere you are a [TS]

00:01:56   trouser that's not too formal but not [TS]

00:01:59   exactly jeans you might wear some kind [TS]

00:02:01   of like a ski skin book shit and usually [TS]

00:02:05   you have a blue casual ish shirt [TS]

00:02:08   untucked you can also do a little the [TS]

00:02:12   long sleeve a blue shirt initiated I've [TS]

00:02:16   heard called new media blue new media [TS]

00:02:18   new media blue you wear that with collar [TS]

00:02:20   and with the sleeves down you know the [TS]

00:02:22   but these people aren't hired [TS]

00:02:24   spokespeople these are millionaire [TS]

00:02:26   people multi-millionaire people who are [TS]

00:02:29   doing this talk I think they're probably [TS]

00:02:30   pretty comfortable [TS]

00:02:31   yeah yeah i mean you get that you get [TS]

00:02:33   the CEO you get the [TS]

00:02:35   but get this guy over here on the CTO [TS]

00:02:38   the CFO the CEO 10 years and what this [TS]

00:02:41   is fascinating background for you at [TS]

00:02:44   Apple there's a CEO and then there's [TS]

00:02:46   mostly you get the vice president's you [TS]

00:02:48   get like a senior senior executive vice [TS]

00:02:50   president will see i approve vice [TS]

00:02:52   president he looked like a vice [TS]

00:02:53   president I do I don't like a lot of [TS]

00:02:55   people up with the sea level I think the [TS]

00:02:56   bed you know I think that too many seas [TS]

00:02:59   spoils the soup [TS]

00:03:00   oh but uh how the sea assault remember [TS]

00:03:05   the land of the old man and the sea [TS]

00:03:06   killed and the sea salt yep yep yep my [TS]

00:03:09   greedy i just weird how you like vice [TS]

00:03:12   presidents in some companies director in [TS]

00:03:15   some companies it'sit's you lieutenant [TS]

00:03:17   colonel problem right you get a lot of [TS]

00:03:19   what he called the Iraqi Colonel's yeah [TS]

00:03:21   yeah rocky Colonel we had a lot of them [TS]

00:03:23   are you just going to goodwill get [TS]

00:03:25   yourself in a rocky Colonel outfit [TS]

00:03:26   you're good to go [TS]

00:03:27   now tell me this so here it is it's big [TS]

00:03:30   day big day today [TS]

00:03:31   yeah I presume a lot of our mutual [TS]

00:03:33   friends a lot of people are going to be [TS]

00:03:35   the XOXO festival who are like Barbara [TS]

00:03:40   clear my schedule [TS]

00:03:41   yeah i'm gonna sit in front of my laptop [TS]

00:03:43   or the or my transistor radio [TS]

00:03:46   yeah remember to listen to this listen [TS]

00:03:48   to it on the I radio like the chain not [TS]

00:03:55   processed automatically summon didn't [TS]

00:03:58   really serious nerd Christmas people [TS]

00:04:01   people make a point of watching this [TS]

00:04:02   it's a tradition that goes back just [TS]

00:04:05   iphone specific this is not there's not [TS]

00:04:07   going to be there no new imac or or or [TS]

00:04:11   mac paint right it's not an oeuvre but [TS]

00:04:15   maybe never know that there could be [TS]

00:04:16   just one more thing we have a new mac [TS]

00:04:20   paint for the macintosh uh-huh could be [TS]

00:04:22   back pain it could be a new let's see [TS]

00:04:24   i'm going to scroll down the sidebar new [TS]

00:04:26   Finder okay all got people love you find [TS]

00:04:29   her a new launch pad June sure press [TS]

00:04:32   assistant system it's been forever [TS]

00:04:35   through the new version of facetime [TS]

00:04:37   really restart shutdown lockout some of [TS]

00:04:41   these are very popular programs booze [TS]

00:04:43   all faithful sure photo booth [TS]

00:04:44   oh yeah i think i have used to take [TS]

00:04:47   selfies on my [TS]

00:04:49   laptop that was just a death cab song oh [TS]

00:04:51   it's a death cab song that was on an EP [TS]

00:04:55   yes and I think using there's a photo [TS]

00:04:58   album is different than photos totally [TS]

00:05:00   different but photo booth was everybody [TS]

00:05:03   everybody at bar soon understood that [TS]

00:05:05   photo booth was a hit [TS]

00:05:06   yea it hit written all over it but it [TS]

00:05:08   only came out on an EP huh [TS]

00:05:11   and in that sense I hear about it all [TS]

00:05:13   the time because it's the commander [TS]

00:05:14   thinks aloud problem yeah it was a good [TS]

00:05:17   song that was only on an EP so it failed [TS]

00:05:20   to the the power of the good song failed [TS]

00:05:22   to to move units right of the album [TS]

00:05:25   because its people people don't buy bp's [TS]

00:05:29   the way they buy an elbow place back in [TS]

00:05:30   the day so that at bar sook I think it's [TS]

00:05:32   called the photobooth problem and within [TS]

00:05:35   the long winters camp [TS]

00:05:37   obviously it's called the commander [TS]

00:05:38   thinks lap did you guys think it's your [TS]

00:05:41   best known song i think so i think well [TS]

00:05:43   because it's been it's been popularized [TS]

00:05:46   by it you know it's it's got it has at [TS]

00:05:49   has multiple sources of dissemination [TS]

00:05:52   right it's the song exploder was a good [TS]

00:05:56   one doesn't really good one but also [TS]

00:05:58   adam savage a learn to play and place it [TS]

00:06:01   at his shows and you know it was a it's [TS]

00:06:04   like yeah it's are there any ukulele [TS]

00:06:05   cover seven John absolutely no who [TS]

00:06:08   anyway so here we are we're we're we're [TS]

00:06:10   listening on our honor thing on our rent [TS]

00:06:14   railroads apples having an event yep [TS]

00:06:17   that almost certainly means that i'm [TS]

00:06:19   going to have to sign or click accept on [TS]

00:06:22   a new set of terms and conditions on [TS]

00:06:23   itunes right that's I think as we're all [TS]

00:06:28   watching this for all thinking how is [TS]

00:06:29   this going to affect John [TS]

00:06:31   well because every time i turn on my [TS]

00:06:33   computer somehow I have to accept a new [TS]

00:06:35   set of terms & condition is not a thing [TS]

00:06:37   huh [TS]

00:06:38   and it's just like yes yes I do i do not [TS]

00:06:41   want to be held here at the customs [TS]

00:06:44   building who have the border of slovakia [TS]

00:06:47   and Ukraine because he never clicked to [TS]

00:06:50   accept because I didn't click accept [TS]

00:06:51   click the first one but then when it [TS]

00:06:53   popped up to say are you sure you hit [TS]

00:06:54   you accidentally hit cancel everything [TS]

00:06:56   held at the border [TS]

00:06:57   that's right did do you have any liquids [TS]

00:07:00   or gels [TS]

00:07:01   Oh mhm I don't you didn't check the box [TS]

00:07:04   you say no but you didn't you scroll [TS]

00:07:06   back up say the number anything anyway [TS]

00:07:09   so here you are [TS]

00:07:10   yeah and this is an event huh where the [TS]

00:07:12   untucked shirts are just talking iphones [TS]

00:07:14   not exactly [TS]

00:07:16   ok they do they have an event in June at [TS]

00:07:19   the developers conference where they [TS]

00:07:20   talked mostly talked about software [TS]

00:07:22   because you know that affects the [TS]

00:07:23   developers and this is their big event [TS]

00:07:25   where they usually in September they [TS]

00:07:27   announced the new iphone this is a new [TS]

00:07:28   iphone every year and then there's other [TS]

00:07:31   things and there's been many many [TS]

00:07:32   question marks because this is kind of a [TS]

00:07:34   weird time for Apple they have not [TS]

00:07:35   updated their computers in a very long [TS]

00:07:38   time and they're still selling some very [TS]

00:07:40   old things and then there's this is [TS]

00:07:42   picked this particular model of iphone [TS]

00:07:44   people have had a lot of questions now [TS]

00:07:46   let me ask you this [TS]

00:07:47   de still have an iphone that you use red [TS]

00:07:50   so do you ever use it to listen to audio [TS]

00:07:52   like to music [TS]

00:07:54   no no not a lot looking at your hearing [TS]

00:07:57   good luck because there's not a [TS]

00:07:58   headphone jack anymore so this is the [TS]

00:08:00   big headphone jack on this is the [TS]

00:08:01   headphone jack controversy which only [TS]

00:08:03   was revealed very recently [TS]

00:08:04   yes and everyone said this is the final [TS]

00:08:06   sign that little Steve jobless apple has [TS]

00:08:09   lost its path [TS]

00:08:10   whoo-hoo right word no did I say that [TS]

00:08:13   every year every six months oh you know [TS]

00:08:15   there's a lot of talk about that kind of [TS]

00:08:17   thing but so does that mean that there [TS]

00:08:20   that they're pushing everybody into a [TS]

00:08:21   bluetooth only music listenings not [TS]

00:08:23   exactly [TS]

00:08:24   ok the new the new iphones that don't [TS]

00:08:26   have a headphone jack come with [TS]

00:08:28   headphones earphones that will work with [TS]

00:08:32   the existing lightning adapter they also [TS]

00:08:34   have new wireless ones that are [TS]

00:08:35   bluetooth like that are kind of [TS]

00:08:37   innovative neat i'm sure they will not [TS]

00:08:38   fit my tiny ears but that's beside the [TS]

00:08:40   point [TS]

00:08:41   yeah they're trying to try to move way [TS]

00:08:43   it's also the new phone is water [TS]

00:08:44   resistant which would have been great [TS]

00:08:46   three days ago when my daughter poured [TS]

00:08:48   an entire bottle of water in my wife's [TS]

00:08:49   purse [TS]

00:08:50   oh yeah and ruined her phone oh yeah and [TS]

00:08:54   everything else ever sure her money is [TS]

00:08:56   wet [TS]

00:08:57   Oh what money ok I get money a lot [TS]

00:09:00   because i'm a perspire sticking your [TS]

00:09:02   sock [TS]

00:09:02   no I'm not afraid of being the jacked [TS]

00:09:06   although you know the story of my family [TS]

00:09:08   is that my grandfather [TS]

00:09:10   when he split town when I 1467 whatever [TS]

00:09:15   figures and didn't come back right [TS]

00:09:17   he hopped a freight as part of his [TS]

00:09:19   hoboing because this would have been [TS]

00:09:21   1936 oh that's the height of 50 times he [TS]

00:09:24   apparently did keep his money in his [TS]

00:09:27   bottom but it is very hopeful but it's [TS]

00:09:31   very noble [TS]

00:09:32   wait a minute you mean is I can't [TS]

00:09:33   confirm to you mean in this prison jar [TS]

00:09:35   that but it is so so little bit [TS]

00:09:39   you did it so if i have my often in a [TS]

00:09:42   big rock candy mountains and shit you [TS]

00:09:46   want out of me back not the sock okay [TS]

00:09:48   you're back now find in a big rock candy [TS]

00:09:52   mountain and yeah I'm here you there [TS]

00:09:54   yeah you went out for a minute are you [TS]

00:09:57   somewhere different it's not even [TS]

00:09:58   keeping his sake kept it somewhere else [TS]

00:10:00   in the big rock candy mountain and I [TS]

00:10:03   know there's no point asking these are [TS]

00:10:05   you on wife let's read never mind don't [TS]

00:10:09   answer please answer in the big rock [TS]

00:10:11   candy mountain and it's so so grandpa [TS]

00:10:16   goes out for cigarettes and he's got [TS]

00:10:19   money in his body's getting his whole [TS]

00:10:20   bottom apparently but I don't you know [TS]

00:10:22   now that I'm thinking about it there's [TS]

00:10:24   never there was never a situation where [TS]

00:10:26   some or some like a hobo colonel came [TS]

00:10:30   back and said I your father kept this [TS]

00:10:32   watching his bottom right right that's [TS]

00:10:36   not the kind of thing that gets written [TS]

00:10:37   down in the in the family bible know so [TS]

00:10:39   I don't even know where I heard that and [TS]

00:10:41   I don't know I can't confirm you know [TS]

00:10:44   what I mean that that's that's even less [TS]

00:10:45   that sounds like a record that sounds [TS]

00:10:47   like a speculation [TS]

00:10:48   yeah that's even at that that's right a [TS]

00:10:50   speculum ation who uh there's there's no [TS]

00:10:54   way anybody could have known that [TS]

00:10:55   because it's not the type of thing he [TS]

00:10:57   would have said so let's just scratch [TS]

00:11:00   let's strike that from the record but he [TS]

00:11:02   might have had like a hundred-dollar [TS]

00:11:03   bill with them i think so or a gold [TS]

00:11:05   calling because I'm sure [TS]

00:11:06   gold coins right you would put a [TS]

00:11:09   hundred-dollar bill in a glass vial and [TS]

00:11:11   put it up there that could end badly [TS]

00:11:14   no I think it's probably gold coin he [TS]

00:11:15   had to you [TS]

00:11:16   I don't mean to dear tables ok so I I'm [TS]

00:11:20   not reading into this something that's [TS]

00:11:21   not actually there you're saying yeah [TS]

00:11:23   but money maybe I well I've heard that [TS]

00:11:26   but again i'm going to check with my mom [TS]

00:11:29   and see if if that's a story that [TS]

00:11:31   because it on the one hand it's not a [TS]

00:11:33   thing I i can picture him saying but on [TS]

00:11:36   the other hand it might also be [TS]

00:11:38   something that he brought up at the [TS]

00:11:39   dinner table [TS]

00:11:40   so what did he ever come back oh yeah I [TS]

00:11:42   came back I mean my great-grandfather [TS]

00:11:44   you have cigarettes he did my [TS]

00:11:47   great-grandfather at a certain point [TS]

00:11:49   look down at the five-year-old and [TS]

00:11:53   three-year-old that he was raising and [TS]

00:11:56   said this is bullshit and he threw them [TS]

00:11:58   in the back of his 1934 chevy and drove [TS]

00:12:01   from Ohio to California in that be [TS]

00:12:04   36-38 drove across the country on route [TS]

00:12:09   66 with these kids and according to my [TS]

00:12:11   mom that they spent the whole drive [TS]

00:12:13   sitting up on the package shelf of the [TS]

00:12:15   back of the Chevy drove all the way out [TS]

00:12:17   there drove around California asking [TS]

00:12:19   people have you seen this guy found him [TS]

00:12:23   and said get your ass back to Ohio and [TS]

00:12:26   raise your goddamn kids [TS]

00:12:28   damn how why grow that's family what [TS]

00:12:32   yeah my great-grandfather was nobody to [TS]

00:12:33   mess around he's the one that like was [TS]

00:12:35   putting a new roof on his own barn at [TS]

00:12:37   the age of 92 Jesus old stock pioneer [TS]

00:12:41   stock [TS]

00:12:41   yeah now let's get back to the question [TS]

00:12:44   at hand [TS]

00:12:45   yeah if I have my iphone plugged into my [TS]

00:12:48   lightning adapter [TS]

00:12:50   yeah I got it gets so much more [TS]

00:12:51   interesting I cannot listen to it on my [TS]

00:12:55   headphones now if it's if it's being [TS]

00:12:57   charged it used to be a kind of human [TS]

00:13:01   centipede that right you have it plugged [TS]

00:13:03   in [TS]

00:13:04   you have to get a daisy chaining huh [TS]

00:13:06   yeah you can have plugged into the [TS]

00:13:07   adapter and the sound is coming out the [TS]

00:13:10   other end into your headphones yeah then [TS]

00:13:13   what you do with that sound is up to you [TS]

00:13:15   we're talking about you go out and [TS]

00:13:16   violin these Newlands yeah if you want [TS]

00:13:18   by one of the new ones and it's and the [TS]

00:13:20   battery is low which isn't available [TS]

00:13:21   available we will be when you plug it [TS]

00:13:23   into the lightning adapter that is also [TS]

00:13:25   where you are expected to plug your [TS]

00:13:26   headphones [TS]

00:13:27   yeah it comes with an adapter which I [TS]

00:13:30   think was actually strangely brave of [TS]

00:13:32   them are nearly Apple would go and we [TS]

00:13:34   got rid of this thing because you never [TS]

00:13:35   actually needed to do but this time [TS]

00:13:37   there including an adapter that changes [TS]

00:13:40   from your lightning dingus to your [TS]

00:13:41   headphones dingus my boy because you [TS]

00:13:45   know every headphone in the world uses [TS]

00:13:49   the same little mini jack 2.5 million [TS]

00:13:53   years there are 400 years every single [TS]

00:13:55   one [TS]

00:13:56   yeah and all those that's okay soso the [TS]

00:14:01   tech nerds are up in arms against an [TS]

00:14:04   hour to get to that first day to get [TS]

00:14:05   through the watch and talking about the [TS]

00:14:07   news new brand new watch series to watch [TS]

00:14:09   you got there by the way this is our [TS]

00:14:10   extensive coverage of the September [TS]

00:14:12   apple event thank you for tuning in to [TS]

00:14:14   get the you get a guy because this is [TS]

00:14:16   the only podcast you do that is on the [TS]

00:14:17   tech podcast and little by little I [TS]

00:14:19   don't really do any tech podcast but [TS]

00:14:21   that's ok then what what wait I haven't [TS]

00:14:27   had a mute button [TS]

00:14:29   oh cheese becomes back that was a mute [TS]

00:14:33   button that was tremendous Wow [TS]

00:14:35   right right as i was about to do a [TS]

00:14:38   terrible terrible sounding car [TS]

00:14:40   no I heard the role you have a role [TS]

00:14:42   going in there all it's one that's one [TS]

00:14:44   of the advantages of this location of my [TS]

00:14:48   podcasting my now growing podcasting web [TS]

00:14:51   oh because here i have a Miami but [TS]

00:14:54   that's nice [TS]

00:14:55   umm so so disoriented [TS]

00:14:59   yes so they had to get through the watch [TS]

00:15:01   part they had 200 all the good they're [TS]

00:15:02   giving Mario Mario is coming to to the [TS]

00:15:05   to the iphone [TS]

00:15:07   oh the little guy who runs around eight [TS]

00:15:10   coins [TS]

00:15:11   what's he gonna do there oh he's they [TS]

00:15:12   brought out the guy who invented Mario [TS]

00:15:14   Japanese fella came out [TS]

00:15:17   yeah and he talked about the bringing [TS]

00:15:19   Marcus a big deal because the the mario [TS]

00:15:21   people have never make games for the [TS]

00:15:23   iphone so that's a big deal so is Mario [TS]

00:15:25   gonna be like the paperclip guy like I [TS]

00:15:27   see you're writing attack that's a good [TS]

00:15:29   idea you should capture that no he's [TS]

00:15:30   gonna run around any coins and I guess [TS]

00:15:32   he's gonna like date mushrooms or [TS]

00:15:34   whatever he does and then they're also [TS]

00:15:35   bring in the the pokemon go hunt in the [TS]

00:15:38   watch [TS]

00:15:38   that was the first hour what pokemon ya [TS]

00:15:43   watch you gotta get watched you can [TS]

00:15:45   catch you got cat small you can have [TS]

00:15:48   some hatch the trainers and and then [TS]

00:15:51   what else did the only thing they had a [TS]

00:15:52   guy from nike come out and talk about [TS]

00:15:54   the new co-branded I Apple watch they're [TS]

00:15:57   doing with nike you want to get that [TS]

00:15:59   that's a big deal be nike co-brand she's [TS]

00:16:01   got her sisters supporting sort of sport [TS]

00:16:03   band on it was very exciting this all [TS]

00:16:05   sounds like exactly what Steve Jobs [TS]

00:16:06   would do a little bit of co-branding a [TS]

00:16:08   little bit of partnering is famous for [TS]

00:16:12   partnering know what you think of Steve [TS]

00:16:14   Jobs legacy oh yeah largely based on [TS]

00:16:17   partnering oh sure yeah with other [TS]

00:16:20   established brands ya doin one tiny [TS]

00:16:22   partner he said it wasn't his daughter [TS]

00:16:23   so you know um yeah so it was it was [TS]

00:16:27   weird it was weird event it was very [TS]

00:16:29   weird is good to have a good time we've [TS]

00:16:31   got a couple good jokes in and I got a [TS]

00:16:32   couple good mr. show jokes in the women [TS]

00:16:35   were you there [TS]

00:16:35   no gosh no I don't go two things I want [TS]

00:16:38   to go to drinks tonight and tonight we [TS]

00:16:40   got the potluck at the after school [TS]

00:16:41   program so i gotta go to that but this [TS]

00:16:43   was like a message board event for [TS]

00:16:44   bringing sandwiches [TS]

00:16:45   no I assume that the potluck the PTA [TS]

00:16:49   potluck is a person thing you're [TS]

00:16:51   required to be there [TS]

00:16:52   oh yeah we're bringing lots of [TS]

00:16:53   sandwiches but the apple event you were [TS]

00:16:54   like commenting on somebody's a newsfeed [TS]

00:16:57   sure it's something you've got what's [TS]

00:16:59   called Twitter and reddit is this [TS]

00:17:02   Twitter for these things and i was [TS]

00:17:04   offered a good for you good for you [TS]

00:17:06   that's healthy and I was watching on my [TS]

00:17:07   apple TV & and that's where I watched it [TS]

00:17:11   and made some chocolates were you were [TS]

00:17:13   you like one of those guys in a in an [TS]

00:17:16   early nineties internet movie where you [TS]

00:17:18   had like six different digital devices [TS]

00:17:20   are going at one something to do ok [TS]

00:17:23   right Gregory yeah yeah don't click on [TS]

00:17:28   that little pie icon [TS]

00:17:30   haha its loading it's loading they're [TS]

00:17:33   almost here the car though I love stuff [TS]

00:17:35   like that almost loaded got you the [TS]

00:17:38   other night because we watched Apollo 13 [TS]

00:17:40   as a family and that was really fun [TS]

00:17:42   that is fun yeah she was really we got [TS]

00:17:45   to the last you know well into the end [TS]

00:17:46   of the second act and she was like I [TS]

00:17:48   know this turns out ok but I [TS]

00:17:50   yeah it gets a really good movie space [TS]

00:17:52   race was very Oh was never clear that it [TS]

00:17:56   was gonna work out well you know and you [TS]

00:17:58   gotta gotta go make the filter from the [TS]

00:17:59   lymph it the filter from the the [TS]

00:18:01   returnee thing you know [TS]

00:18:03   did you see that some that just recently [TS]

00:18:05   someone who found so a guy found the [TS]

00:18:11   computers the the Apollo computers on a [TS]

00:18:15   junk heap and he bought them at a scrap [TS]

00:18:18   auction what he was like those look [TS]

00:18:21   interesting i think this happened a long [TS]

00:18:23   time [TS]

00:18:23   oh my gosh however though this is like [TS]

00:18:25   the BBC racing dr who that's so weird [TS]

00:18:28   why would they not have this in a museum [TS]

00:18:29   or something [TS]

00:18:30   it's like the whole first half of the [TS]

00:18:31   Carson show was all taped over to make [TS]

00:18:34   like metamucil ads right like gasps [TS]

00:18:36   efforts on commercials [TS]

00:18:37   yeah yeah you you know that right there [TS]

00:18:40   that from the earliest days of this the [TS]

00:18:41   the Carson show until he realized it [TS]

00:18:44   released soon they were taking care of [TS]

00:18:47   that and turns out they weren't hehe one [TS]

00:18:50   day he was like hey let's come up the [TS]

00:18:52   reels from the that show I from 1970 or [TS]

00:18:55   something and they were like call up the [TS]

00:18:56   reels really used those wheels because [TS]

00:18:59   right when state at me bc was the worst [TS]

00:19:02   about this wasn't just doctor who but [TS]

00:19:03   they did it with tons of stuff [TS]

00:19:04   what's funny is i think i don't know a [TS]

00:19:06   lot about this but I think in some ways [TS]

00:19:07   there's a better archive based on a [TS]

00:19:10   kinescope so what are called for you [TS]

00:19:12   need to shoot a movie camera at a screen [TS]

00:19:15   on a TV yeah the original the original [TS]

00:19:17   pirating and and I think there's more [TS]

00:19:19   stuff of you know the I Love Lucy [TS]

00:19:20   honeymooners era then of some stuff for [TS]

00:19:23   the late sixties that's bananas and that [TS]

00:19:26   that's when Carson said alright i am [TS]

00:19:28   taking over everything in my show all of [TS]

00:19:30   you fuckers take a big step back and [TS]

00:19:34   we're going to put every single tape [TS]

00:19:35   that of all these shows in a salt mine [TS]

00:19:37   somewhere in utah right he took complete [TS]

00:19:39   control at that point because he had the [TS]

00:19:40   power to be such an interesting kind [TS]

00:19:42   everybody out of my office is basically [TS]

00:19:46   oh um so yeah back to the back to this [TS]

00:19:50   fascinating event [TS]

00:19:51   yeah I'm Oh No week the the Apollo [TS]

00:19:54   computers [TS]

00:19:54   oh yeah right oh the computers right [TS]

00:19:56   right so guy finds him by submitting [TS]

00:19:58   auction just like you know what am I bid [TS]

00:20:01   twenty dollars to have 22 sold and he [TS]

00:20:07   keeps him around because he knows their [TS]

00:20:09   thing and then just recently some hacker [TS]

00:20:14   bro dug around found this guy found the [TS]

00:20:20   computer's power to backup and [TS]

00:20:25   downloaded the software and is now a [TS]

00:20:29   capable and he says that this whole [TS]

00:20:31   business about they send a man to the [TS]

00:20:33   moon on a computer that as the computing [TS]

00:20:36   power ups of the content of a digital [TS]

00:20:37   image like them like a led watch like [TS]

00:20:41   most thermostats probably are more [TS]

00:20:43   sophisticated he said that is wrong and [TS]

00:20:45   dumb these are actually really powerful [TS]

00:20:47   computer that's interesting and he said [TS]

00:20:49   these things are geniuses the the gene [TS]

00:20:51   it's built genius style and they're [TS]

00:20:54   they're awesome and he's this is just [TS]

00:20:56   recently he's like running this machine [TS]

00:20:59   or at least he pulled the software out [TS]

00:21:00   of it and can see it and use it and and [TS]

00:21:04   and that's that's yeah so we learn more [TS]

00:21:07   about that that's super interesting well [TS]

00:21:08   i think it's on the internet I look it [TS]

00:21:10   out look out look at the Apollo guidance [TS]

00:21:11   computer right now a ball guidance [TS]

00:21:13   computer there it is because i make that [TS]

00:21:15   stuff up too crazy too crazy right what [TS]

00:21:19   else is out there [TS]

00:21:20   what other dead sea scrolls are out [TS]

00:21:22   there right right right [TS]

00:21:24   somebody's gonna find and use fire [TS]

00:21:26   starter until someone else says hey what [TS]

00:21:28   are those firestop right not bad still [TS]

00:21:33   comes up in are upset but it will just [TS]

00:21:36   jump into part of each other in the [TS]

00:21:37   kitchen go firestop like I was silly was [TS]

00:21:43   a prodigy was the name of that band and [TS]

00:21:45   you know the guide the singer guy with [TS]

00:21:47   the five Mohawks he didn't even like [TS]

00:21:49   that song really what was the other guy [TS]

00:21:52   Oh Carole Bayer Sager yeah and [TS]

00:21:54   the guy was one of those by billy corgan [TS]

00:21:57   grouches oh interesting get super mad [TS]

00:22:00   that the song that he was the genius of [TS]

00:22:04   that band and then mr. crazy [TS]

00:22:08   Kevin Roland or whatever but 550 heart [TS]

00:22:11   that's sexist metro set seven nose rings [TS]

00:22:15   yeah he's like international superstar [TS]

00:22:18   alright it's basically a backup dancer [TS]

00:22:20   that the genius guy said you know ya [TS]

00:22:24   dance around a fire starter and then [TS]

00:22:26   means a megastar and and genius dude is [TS]

00:22:29   like cut out of the Starling know you [TS]

00:22:31   makes me this is such that such a [TS]

00:22:33   seventies movie that's terrible [TS]

00:22:35   and so then he gets mad prodigy prodigy [TS]

00:22:39   nice weather isn't it gets mad and he's [TS]

00:22:41   already mad and all the photographs you [TS]

00:22:43   see he's very mad and the thing is he's [TS]

00:22:46   not very interesting-looking he's not [TS]

00:22:48   nearly as interesting looking as has you [TS]

00:22:51   know as the titular fuck starter as the [TS]

00:22:53   firestarter [TS]

00:22:54   yeah right Anna as Johnny Rotten right [TS]

00:22:58   yeah I could not tell you what this [TS]

00:22:59   guy's name is IRA maybe seem pretty [TS]

00:23:01   silly and then I guess either either [TS]

00:23:04   angry guy decided being pushed everybody [TS]

00:23:08   to the side and was like I'm a lead [TS]

00:23:09   singer from now on and then nobody [TS]

00:23:12   wanted anymore [TS]

00:23:13   prodigy or something else I stopped [TS]

00:23:16   reading q magazine right around that [TS]

00:23:17   same time so I didn't notice sure I [TS]

00:23:21   thought I thought I knew stuff about the [TS]

00:23:23   always and I think his name it looks [TS]

00:23:24   like his name might be Keith Flint [TS]

00:23:25   o'keefe that's right Keith he's a he's a [TS]

00:23:28   dancer and vocalist in the band use the [TS]

00:23:31   dancer in the one it says yes I think [TS]

00:23:33   you might be so according to the members [TS]

00:23:34   were originally Liam Howlett keyboardist [TS]

00:23:36   and composer I think he's probably smart [TS]

00:23:38   guy right smart he's the he's a sad [TS]

00:23:40   Corgan in fact in any British pop act [TS]

00:23:43   liam is the one that's doing the design [TS]

00:23:46   demonic John yeah that's right in any [TS]

00:23:48   British pop act right human brew ha ha [TS]

00:23:53   leave it alone and mate so so here's the [TS]

00:23:56   thing that creates a background hip so [TS]

00:23:59   what what what did Keef was keeps job [TS]

00:24:03   description okay so you got Leah mallet [TS]

00:24:05   this is from wikipedia which is never [TS]

00:24:06   wrong [TS]

00:24:07   Liam Howlett was the keyboards and [TS]

00:24:08   composer Keith Flint is a dancer and [TS]

00:24:10   vocalist someone called maxim was an MC [TS]

00:24:14   and vocalist and then Leroy with 2 e's [TS]

00:24:16   thornhill was a dancer her educational [TS]

00:24:19   live keyboardist oh I also had a female [TS]

00:24:22   dancer and vocalist called sharky sharky [TS]

00:24:24   how's Leroy and Sharky left the band for [TS]

00:24:27   different reasons as you run down the [TS]

00:24:29   list of their jobs you know in any [TS]

00:24:32   situation where a person is described as [TS]

00:24:34   vocalist in a band [TS]

00:24:36   they have no contribution to the right [TS]

00:24:38   to the right isn't that kind of a [TS]

00:24:40   damning with faint praise that [TS]

00:24:41   information you know you're not that you [TS]

00:24:43   should definitely not the lead singer [TS]

00:24:45   you're not even really a singer your [TS]

00:24:48   vocalist vocalist I mean Linda McCartney [TS]

00:24:51   was a vocalist right so these guys are [TS]

00:24:54   dancers and vocalist bubbly and the only [TS]

00:24:57   guided and then occasional sometime [TS]

00:25:00   part-time live keyboard player sure and [TS]

00:25:02   the and specifying that he's the live [TS]

00:25:04   keyboard player just in case anybody [TS]

00:25:06   thought for a second that he played a [TS]

00:25:07   single mode on the right it's such a [TS]

00:25:09   fuck you it's like oh you do you want to [TS]

00:25:11   talk about 800 Leroy you mean the guy [TS]

00:25:15   who is the occasional live keyboardist [TS]

00:25:17   everyone's well yeah he would walk past [TS]

00:25:20   keyboard and play one like he was one [TS]

00:25:23   button which has probably been painted a [TS]

00:25:25   different color so he could stake like [TS]

00:25:28   hit the green key night time sequence at [TS]

00:25:32   rigorous tests [TS]

00:25:33   dance dance dance dance dance dance yeah [TS]

00:25:35   you know this is the notices this is the [TS]

00:25:37   British class system this is what we're [TS]

00:25:39   seeing right here different braintree [TS]

00:25:42   essex that's a much cooler name the [TS]

00:25:44   prodigy braintree essex I've been to [TS]

00:25:46   braintree and I hated the name braintree [TS]

00:25:49   who I still do [TS]

00:25:51   there's one in in Massachusetts and I [TS]

00:25:53   don't like that one either to our [TS]

00:25:56   battery out my the thing that I remember [TS]

00:25:58   about braintree two things one the river [TS]

00:26:01   that runs through braintree is full of [TS]

00:26:03   shopping carts typical Lori's haha their [TS]

00:26:08   torches valleys they called Charlie's [TS]

00:26:11   that's it [TS]

00:26:11   shopping trolleys trolley travels and [TS]

00:26:15   the second thing i remember is that i [TS]

00:26:16   bought a I bought a flat of strawberries [TS]

00:26:19   on the heist [TS]

00:26:20   meet 42 pounds and then went around the [TS]

00:26:24   corner was British thing you've ever [TS]

00:26:25   done flats drivers on the street for two [TS]

00:26:29   pounds i went around the corner there [TS]

00:26:31   was an identical flat of strawberries [TS]

00:26:33   for one pound oh one block off the high [TS]

00:26:36   street and I said you know what fuck [TS]

00:26:38   braintree fuck this high street was [TS]

00:26:40   about these particular strawberries [TS]

00:26:42   yeah but that shopping cart river I'm [TS]

00:26:45   gonna keep on keepin on [TS]

00:26:47   how'd you get a name like braintree [TS]

00:26:49   we've had sponsor on this was on this [TS]

00:26:50   show I wasn't here but yeah they sure we [TS]

00:26:52   have Braintree on here what is braintree [TS]

00:26:54   mean in in essex here it means easy [TS]

00:26:58   payment integration of a pal but i do [TS]

00:27:02   have two bells my finger got me a bell [TS]

00:27:05   their third apart there's a there's a [TS]

00:27:07   bar here in Seattle called the two bells [TS]

00:27:09   oh that's nice [TS]

00:27:10   never beat these are the 13 points no no [TS]

00:27:12   there's only two bells but there are 13 [TS]

00:27:14   coins there are lights the two bells was [TS]

00:27:16   where my former roommate who was doing [TS]

00:27:20   work release at the time worked as a [TS]

00:27:23   short-order cook he would go home at [TS]

00:27:26   night to the jail [TS]

00:27:28   slap it was great for me because he was [TS]

00:27:32   no longer living in our house you still [TS]

00:27:34   can read you still pay plus yes he was [TS]

00:27:36   he was paying rent his stuff was all [TS]

00:27:38   there but he socks but he wasn't around [TS]

00:27:41   because she was he was spending the [TS]

00:27:43   night in jail but many they let him out [TS]

00:27:45   to go to work and then come back it was [TS]

00:27:48   you know it just was one less guy but [TS]

00:27:50   also the bad side was once guy could [TS]

00:27:53   steal pot from the endless roommate that [TS]

00:27:55   had pot in his dresser drawer that I can [TS]

00:27:57   search for some reason I don't know this [TS]

00:27:58   reminds me of a time in the nineties [TS]

00:28:02   when we dropped off the Volvo wagon to [TS]

00:28:04   be repaired this place has dropped it [TS]

00:28:05   off this guy was king a good guy good [TS]

00:28:07   mechanic and drop the car off and [TS]

00:28:09   usually hear back you know that day with [TS]

00:28:10   the estimate here but this is goodbye [TS]

00:28:12   were calling nothing's going on nothing [TS]

00:28:13   finally go they were like hey you know [TS]

00:28:14   what's going on you know you know [TS]

00:28:16   where's Jerry or whatever and where's [TS]

00:28:19   Jerry about the first people to ask that [TS]

00:28:21   yeah right no one ever asks how's Waldo [TS]

00:28:23   the still in New Yorker cartoon but yeah [TS]

00:28:27   we going there like yeah like where's [TS]

00:28:29   Jerry and they're like um [TS]

00:28:30   mhm [TS]

00:28:32   Jerry is currently incarcerated for [TS]

00:28:36   everything i love that phrase currently [TS]

00:28:38   incarcerated want you know you think [TS]

00:28:40   about now you see you just said ball [TS]

00:28:42   though you save all lower bowl is a [TS]

00:28:44   vulva volts in mulva oh no Mama is the [TS]

00:28:49   assistant vice principal of my former [TS]

00:28:51   high school [TS]

00:28:52   malva no that was a different google [TS]

00:28:54   we've talked about quite frankly ticket [TS]

00:28:56   that um you see the crisp at that was [TS]

00:28:59   Rick about em but you say ball though [TS]

00:29:02   when the thing about a ball is you think [TS]

00:29:05   this is a classy car [TS]

00:29:06   this is you know in the english class [TS]

00:29:08   system of Scandinavian cars this is this [TS]

00:29:11   car went to Oxford or Cambridge or [TS]

00:29:15   cambridge right [TS]

00:29:16   oxbridge l8r tho whenever I see this has [TS]

00:29:19   happened several times one of although [TS]

00:29:21   mechanic gets sent to jail [TS]

00:29:25   it always strikes me as stranger then if [TS]

00:29:28   a Chevy or toyota mechanical this is one [TS]

00:29:32   of those freakonomics type things yes [TS]

00:29:34   right you hear you all the mechanicals [TS]

00:29:36   know those guys are probably sitting at [TS]

00:29:38   home making furniture the BMW guys that [TS]

00:29:41   run in the jail [TS]

00:29:42   that's right run the jail ok area back [TS]

00:29:44   here there were gel in their hair and in [TS]

00:29:46   prison they have to make you know [TS]

00:29:47   homemade gel thought this boot but uh [TS]

00:29:50   but in fact I mean one time many many [TS]

00:29:52   years ago I was walking down the street [TS]

00:29:54   in portland oregon and i came upon a [TS]

00:29:55   Volvo which had been Tommy volvo coming [TS]

00:30:00   through there I like a part of all of [TS]

00:30:05   which had been low righted a lowrider [TS]

00:30:09   Volvo and it was like that scene in [TS]

00:30:12   bachelor party the movie where they will [TS]

00:30:15   overwrite as I those to the Broadway [TS]

00:30:17   play [TS]

00:30:17   um oh my goodness there's a man you know [TS]

00:30:20   in a in a vest knocking on the front [TS]

00:30:23   door here [TS]

00:30:24   oh no that's not good let's see let's [TS]

00:30:27   see what this is this is the guy from [TS]

00:30:28   his different mission control gently [TS]

00:30:30   knocking with me Jean I'm gonna go to [TS]

00:30:33   the door opening here [TS]

00:30:34   hey how are you I'm well how are you [TS]

00:30:38   I know you just sort of energy yes sir [TS]

00:30:40   i'm just going to inspect your gas meter [TS]

00:30:43   of course into extension which goes to [TS]

00:30:45   the bar get it happen to know them on [TS]

00:30:48   your problem i appreciate it thanks so [TS]

00:30:49   much [TS]

00:30:50   thank you good days Cheers he works for [TS]

00:30:54   the gas company and how much how much [TS]

00:30:56   that I heard it all I you should get on [TS]

00:30:57   next door and report that well no he [TS]

00:31:00   seems very official [TS]

00:31:01   he said he sounded the Senate suave well [TS]

00:31:04   he's very suave I i get the impression [TS]

00:31:05   that he's Nigerian yeah awesome accent [TS]

00:31:10   he did and he now is he was carrying a [TS]

00:31:14   wand which I am presuming was a gas [TS]

00:31:18   detection was gonna be out by the barn [TS]

00:31:20   gonna be out by the barn checking the [TS]

00:31:22   gas to make sure that it's not there's [TS]

00:31:25   no slow leak you blew a great cinemax [TS]

00:31:27   opportunity there by the way what was it [TS]

00:31:29   nigeria with the launch as if you can't [TS]

00:31:31   or eats a just be on your way [TS]

00:31:33   haha wasn't okay with 16 to get vocal in [TS]

00:31:39   the nigerian with the one shows up at my [TS]

00:31:41   door i do not expect him to be wearing a [TS]

00:31:43   reflective vest like the one that I'm [TS]

00:31:45   really where is Prince is now that's [TS]

00:31:49   he's wearing a robe of eldorado ha [TS]

00:31:51   greetings uh I'm from the future haha on [TS]

00:31:58   come with me now hit himself with a [TS]

00:32:00   little brush to not to fly so three [TS]

00:32:07   ladies behind him with throwing rose [TS]

00:32:09   petals everywhere you want cake comes in [TS]

00:32:11   dressed like a priest you cannot marry [TS]

00:32:13   this girl [TS]

00:32:15   decorative rocks to fuck with the with [TS]

00:32:19   the smoked salmon tucked into this [TS]

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00:34:31   Squarespace make sure to use the offer [TS]

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00:34:34   get you ten percent off your first [TS]

00:34:36   purchase and it shows your support for [TS]

00:34:39   Roderick on the line [TS]

00:34:40   our thanks to squarespace for supporting [TS]

00:34:42   runner got a line and all the great [TS]

00:34:45   shows so so I knew I should hope so now [TS]

00:34:53   volvo mechanics they give you any [TS]

00:34:55   compelling reason to bible of an Apple [TS]

00:34:57   watch [TS]

00:34:58   do you have one already a watcher phone [TS]

00:35:00   of watch on both i gotta watch your [TS]

00:35:03   phone and iPad [TS]

00:35:05   and I met so is there anything is there [TS]

00:35:07   any better reason let me let me let me [TS]

00:35:09   change that around is there anybody what [TS]

00:35:10   better reason for me to have him i watch [TS]

00:35:13   no no I mean no no youyou don't I mean [TS]

00:35:17   you move in a grand mall fashion but I [TS]

00:35:21   don't know if you do enough atomic [TS]

00:35:22   movement to really make it worth your [TS]

00:35:23   while I'm moving mysterious ways [TS]

00:35:25   that's true you're located like a you to [TS]

00:35:27   hit and you are you know you go right [TS]

00:35:29   through right through security that [TS]

00:35:31   that's good you know the new iphones [TS]

00:35:33   amazing it's gonna be great [TS]

00:35:35   they're not gonna be bananas so now um [TS]

00:35:38   let me ask you this [TS]

00:35:40   yeah you there you see it there in the [TS]

00:35:44   turban you there in the velvet rope so I [TS]

00:35:48   have I I think I recounted on this [TS]

00:35:51   podcast that I i was carrying around a [TS]

00:35:53   broken iphone 5s and one time I came to [TS]

00:35:58   san francisco i could not arrange a [TS]

00:36:00   meeting like you you didn't have any [TS]

00:36:03   opportunity for me to get an audience [TS]

00:36:05   with you [TS]

00:36:05   who and so I had a tweetup that's right [TS]

00:36:10   you did and cleanup man and a young man [TS]

00:36:13   came to the tweetup and everyone at the [TS]

00:36:15   table remarked on my screwed-up phone [TS]

00:36:18   and how it embarrassing it was because i [TS]

00:36:21   do a tech podcast with Merlin Mann and I [TS]

00:36:24   should have a good iphone literally [TS]

00:36:26   state-of-the-art I'm like a tech I'm [TS]

00:36:29   kind of a tech guy right off like a like [TS]

00:36:31   a tech celeb yeah you're like a an [TS]

00:36:33   occasional live keyboardist attack [TS]

00:36:35   yeah that's right on vocals the dancer [TS]

00:36:38   vocalist dancer I'm a dancer not a Whore [TS]

00:36:41   the answer i only want to be a dancer I [TS]

00:36:46   and I'm sitting there at the table and [TS]

00:36:48   he's like oh I mean leans over to his [TS]

00:36:50   wife or fiance and he says honey give [TS]

00:36:53   him that iphone and his wife says what i [TS]

00:36:58   use that as my camera and he says she's [TS]

00:37:01   an Android developer [TS]

00:37:04   she just took my old iphone because wink [TS]

00:37:08   wink [TS]

00:37:09   it's a better camera or something like [TS]

00:37:12   that [TS]

00:37:13   no no no when he said no I'm [TS]

00:37:15   misunderstanding you know English is a [TS]

00:37:16   complicated language he was saying [TS]

00:37:18   literally gives John your iphone and she [TS]

00:37:21   digs in her purse pulls out this iphone [TS]

00:37:24   and he says it's my iphone i gave it to [TS]

00:37:27   you and she says yeah but i'm using it [TS]

00:37:29   as a camera he said duke he said well no [TS]

00:37:31   he was being very he was being very [TS]

00:37:33   generous because he keeps saying keep [TS]

00:37:35   saying we're developer at the last time [TS]

00:37:38   you meet this guy he makes his feet say [TS]

00:37:41   give you something he gave her baby does [TS]

00:37:44   it five times a day he would be his [TS]

00:37:46   point was i am being yeah i think when i [TS]

00:37:49   was reading between she's an Android [TS]

00:37:51   developer she shouldn't even have an [TS]

00:37:53   iphone sure this was a business church [TS]

00:37:56   and state this was a violation of some [TS]

00:37:57   she's on her and casting pearls before [TS]

00:38:00   swine exam people beep on yea what [TS]

00:38:04   you're bringing stuff over here and yet [TS]

00:38:07   you want to you want my iphone because [TS]

00:38:09   it's a better media / want my iphone [TS]

00:38:12   yeah so he was like fork it over and I'm [TS]

00:38:15   like hey look this is you know my name [TS]

00:38:17   is Paul and mrs. between y'all who write [TS]

00:38:19   like I don't want to [TS]

00:38:20   I didn't ask for i didn't ask to be part [TS]

00:38:23   of this drug who and he's like no know [TS]

00:38:25   who I want you to have this it's you [TS]

00:38:28   know it's my it's a great my gift to you [TS]

00:38:30   and we'll work this out this is pillow [TS]

00:38:33   talk between us right where web [TS]

00:38:35   developers you have no idea what it's [TS]

00:38:38   like to be it's like to lead vocalists [TS]

00:38:41   and birds two vocalists and dancers [TS]

00:38:43   yeah married like who's writing the [TS]

00:38:46   ticket to the occasional live keyboard [TS]

00:38:48   is not enough composers so in he's ibiza [TS]

00:38:51   Mac Developer she's an Android developer [TS]

00:38:52   he's like we're gonna work this out [TS]

00:38:54   don't you worry about he slides this [TS]

00:38:56   iphone over to me I'm like when [TS]

00:38:58   everybody tables like this is a big move [TS]

00:39:01   like this [TS]

00:39:02   he's like I got 20 of these might look [TS]

00:39:05   yeah there's a baller move is a big [TS]

00:39:07   player yeah well it took me [TS]

00:39:09   two-and-a-half weeks to figure out how [TS]

00:39:11   to unlock the goddamn [TS]

00:39:12   who had to get it and go down to the [TS]

00:39:15   apple store for some friends there [TS]

00:39:17   because i'm kind of a tech kind of a [TS]

00:39:19   wheel you know yeah absolutely [TS]

00:39:22   anyway so now i have an iphone 6 it's [TS]

00:39:24   not an iphone 6s mine [TS]

00:39:26   that's good phone iphone sex except for [TS]

00:39:28   how slippery Diaz well but I put a [TS]

00:39:30   little case on it and this case says [TS]

00:39:32   junior firefighter burien Normandy Park [TS]

00:39:36   Fire Department huh [TS]

00:39:37   and it keeps the food is not very [TS]

00:39:39   slippery now okay guys we're so now [TS]

00:39:41   let's say I'm a person who wants to pay [TS]

00:39:44   nine hundred dollars for a new phone [TS]

00:39:46   just AT&T no longer offers the old deals [TS]

00:39:50   sell me on the iphone 7 l available that [TS]

00:39:58   will be a lot better [TS]

00:39:59   ok things if you if you go to a store [TS]

00:40:01   here's the thing oh if you're all [TS]

00:40:03   batteries die if you have a battery in [TS]

00:40:06   your that's two-year-old phone [TS]

00:40:07   men must die yes yes normally out of it [TS]

00:40:10   and if you go in and get the exact self [TS]

00:40:12   same phone [TS]

00:40:13   exactly that's brand-new the batteries [TS]

00:40:14   can be so much better that is that plus [TS]

00:40:16   some of the thick [TS]

00:40:17   oh yeah but I'm trying to say is the [TS]

00:40:19   first thing that you'll notice which is [TS]

00:40:20   just a natural consequence of physics in [TS]

00:40:22   life is that the battery better its [TS]

00:40:24   but-but-but tons faster like crazy [TS]

00:40:26   faster it's got an insane camera on it [TS]

00:40:30   it is waterproof for water resistant to [TS]

00:40:33   many meters also you don't have an ipad [TS]

00:40:37   to my knowledge to you [TS]

00:40:38   so my ipad was stolen as in the great [TS]

00:40:41   case oh the caper and then it was [TS]

00:40:45   returned by the by the written police [TS]

00:40:47   department that doctor dr. Yamaguchi em [TS]

00:40:50   now I have it but somehow in the somehow [TS]

00:40:55   my tenuous connection to it as a media [TS]

00:40:57   device in first place which was always [TS]

00:41:00   like I'm watching something on my phone [TS]

00:41:01   and that and i'm i'm essentially keeping [TS]

00:41:05   my coffee is sitting on my ID [TS]

00:41:07   dad i'm watching this thing I watching a [TS]

00:41:09   film on my phone and I go don't have a [TS]

00:41:12   another way to watch [TS]

00:41:14   oh i do that's a good sign the ipad may [TS]

00:41:16   not be for you if you find yourself [TS]

00:41:18   having to go and that this distance is [TS]

00:41:20   not tech talk without tech talk but i [TS]

00:41:22   will say that like if you have to see if [TS]

00:41:23   you find yourself saying that grown i [TS]

00:41:25   should go use that thing I've got that [TS]

00:41:28   may not be a good [TS]

00:41:29   this is why I say now here i'll say this [TS]

00:41:30   if you were to come into some money [TS]

00:41:32   God love you yeah i did spend it anyway [TS]

00:41:35   fingers crossed goon that's generally [TS]

00:41:37   what Germans do that come into money got [TS]

00:41:40   that money scheisse [TS]

00:41:41   yeah that's cool it's just that my [TS]

00:41:43   daughter doesn't shy semana I if you [TS]

00:41:46   came into some money I'd say it's good [TS]

00:41:48   and i'll tell you why i like my lady [TS]

00:41:50   friend her phone until two days ago she [TS]

00:41:52   loved very much the bigger iphone is for [TS]

00:41:55   someone like you is not an ipad user you [TS]

00:41:56   might really like it also your big man [TS]

00:41:57   big pockets you can handle it but here's [TS]

00:42:00   the thing with that [TS]

00:42:00   yeah you know my lady friend mhm [TS]

00:42:04   it works in the tech industry yeah also [TS]

00:42:08   is true [TS]

00:42:08   sure she she's also a millennium and [TS]

00:42:12   she's going to snapchat yeah well she's [TS]

00:42:14   yeah I get snapchats all the time now [TS]

00:42:15   but I don't know what to do with them [TS]

00:42:17   smile like I have a little animal [TS]

00:42:21   oh they're on my lap time is called [TS]

00:42:24   snapchats you afraid of that kind of [TS]

00:42:27   print about them it slowly lower your [TS]

00:42:30   glasses but the end of your neck that's [TS]

00:42:32   it seems like she's having having having [TS]

00:42:35   some kind of a breakfast here [TS]

00:42:37   that's terrific but we don't got Jack [TS]

00:42:40   and oh what kind of give the gala call [TS]

00:42:42   forever [TS]

00:42:44   ah so she said to me and this is Right [TS]

00:42:49   circa when I got the iphone 6 from the [TS]

00:42:51   very nice man at the tweetup who right [TS]

00:42:54   before that I was thinking okay the new [TS]

00:42:58   world order is that apparently now you [TS]

00:43:02   pay nine hundred dollars for an iphone [TS]

00:43:03   listen if you are listening to this [TS]

00:43:05   program and you are thinking about [TS]

00:43:06   tweeting or emailing me all the [TS]

00:43:08   multifarious different contracts i could [TS]

00:43:11   have signed yeah [TS]

00:43:12   in order to get in mind hundred-dollar [TS]

00:43:13   iphone four hundred are ya [TS]

00:43:16   my mother away yeah my way of calling [TS]

00:43:19   not another dollar is there a place [TS]

00:43:20   where you particularly people to send [TS]

00:43:21   that i would i would like you to send it [TS]

00:43:24   to info @ @ example.com dot Roderick dot [TS]

00:43:31   com mand any town USA 12345 and I'm so i [TS]

00:43:37   was thing I'm a pic I got big pockets [TS]

00:43:40   using strong like bull [TS]

00:43:41   I want the big iphone I'm gonna hold [TS]

00:43:44   that in my hand I see I look around I [TS]

00:43:47   see people with them all over the place [TS]

00:43:48   oh yeah sure sure [TS]

00:43:49   and she said don't you dare get the big [TS]

00:43:52   iphone i simply what do you mean she [TS]

00:43:55   said you might as well you might as well [TS]

00:43:58   be wearing a tracksuit like the bigger [TS]

00:44:01   iphone what is for squares like no one [TS]

00:44:06   in that within the cool kid [TS]

00:44:09   yeah yeah you want the smallest iphone [TS]

00:44:11   you can you know what some big TV and I [TS]

00:44:15   said listen I'm not some millennium I'm [TS]

00:44:18   gonna get the iphone that suits me [TS]

00:44:21   I'm gonna get the iphone then I like it [TS]

00:44:23   and maybe it's gonna be one that is [TS]

00:44:26   bigger than the than the the initial [TS]

00:44:29   television sets of 1948 where I want one [TS]

00:44:32   that I can watch an entire film i want [TS]

00:44:34   one where I'm going to look at other [TS]

00:44:35   peoples instagrams and be able to see [TS]

00:44:37   what the picture is about [TS]

00:44:38   that's right don't don't discount the [TS]

00:44:40   eye thing that she said if you get the [TS]

00:44:44   big iphone i will not be seen with you [TS]

00:44:45   hold dear [TS]

00:44:46   she's really really dropped the gauntlet [TS]

00:44:49   and so then I was in a position where i [TS]

00:44:51   was like em too which is more important [TS]

00:44:54   to me that I'd seen in public with my [TS]

00:44:57   girlfriend okay or that i'd be able to [TS]

00:44:59   see people's instinct do you value the [TS]

00:45:01   private or the public aspect more [TS]

00:45:03   that's right five things at five [TS]

00:45:05   breakups only a millennium can [TS]

00:45:06   understand uh-huh that's right and who [TS]

00:45:10   did you friend last who your friend who [TS]

00:45:12   the person new friends at last friend [TS]

00:45:14   last [TS]

00:45:14   I think I thought that's what I want to [TS]

00:45:16   know so I thought about it I was in the [TS]

00:45:19   middle of thinking about it when I went [TS]

00:45:22   to this tweet up and i say i went to the [TS]

00:45:24   tweetup but it was I who called the [TS]

00:45:26   tweet you host it [TS]

00:45:27   I hope stood between who um and identity [TS]

00:45:31   then this iphone 6 came out of a nice [TS]

00:45:34   woman's purse and when sliding a nice [TS]

00:45:37   android-developers person when sliding [TS]

00:45:38   across the table to me and i was [TS]

00:45:42   suddenly at the the problem I didn't [TS]

00:45:44   have to think about it anymore [TS]

00:45:45   nice i didn't have to choose the big [TS]

00:45:47   iphone because an iphone chose me [TS]

00:45:50   that's nice like a lawn that's nice but [TS]

00:45:52   now looking into my future I think [TS]

00:45:54   iphone 7 [TS]

00:45:58   well there I mean ah I just submit this [TS]

00:46:03   without comment that it's gonna be very [TS]

00:46:04   costly but I'm gonna go on and down you [TS]

00:46:08   know the thing is you can use it for a [TS]

00:46:09   while so you might as well get one this [TS]

00:46:10   one you can drop in the bathtub and [TS]

00:46:12   you're good to go [TS]

00:46:12   that's nice you know so it's more than [TS]

00:46:15   900 dog [TS]

00:46:16   well it depends if you buy it outright [TS]

00:46:17   and you buy one that's worth getting in [TS]

00:46:19   having for a while yeah it's like it's [TS]

00:46:20   going to be around a thousand bucks or [TS]

00:46:23   you know you go get a plan with a place [TS]

00:46:26   and wireless plan and nerve share [TS]

00:46:30   30 caps Blair no thanks [TS]

00:46:36   possible possible possible you go into a [TS]

00:46:39   store you go into an over-limit store [TS]

00:46:41   where someone in a branded polo sure God [TS]

00:46:44   Guam's onto you like a fucking this [TS]

00:46:48   until just be sweet Neil's like Calamity [TS]

00:46:51   Jane we wanted how many years can we [TS]

00:46:54   speak to you today about the insurance [TS]

00:46:56   that's right because i want the [TS]

00:46:58   insurance I'm not an animal 24 years old [TS]

00:47:01   I'm between you i am the gatekeeper [TS]

00:47:03   between you and other people's [TS]

00:47:06   instagrams [TS]

00:47:07   well I i would say see I missed the end [TS]

00:47:14   I was getting really bored i forgot come [TS]

00:47:15   and start recording with you early i [TS]

00:47:17   would go to when available in store [TS]

00:47:18   which I imagine will be soon i don't [TS]

00:47:20   know i was going to look at see what the [TS]

00:47:22   hand feels like minute hand feel is a [TS]

00:47:24   big part of it [TS]

00:47:27   Apple has done the thing and we all know [TS]

00:47:29   this and they've done it now for for [TS]

00:47:31   more than a decade a decade-and-a-half [TS]

00:47:33   let's call it [TS]

00:47:35   this is just gonna be about the cords [TS]

00:47:36   again no no okay i will talk about the [TS]

00:47:40   cord know what did they provided this [TS]

00:47:44   cable with the phone and now they expect [TS]

00:47:47   you to buy all new cables [TS]

00:47:49   yeah yeah but anyway I'm not gonna talk [TS]

00:47:51   about that at least in the iphone 7 [TS]

00:47:53   they're still using the last iteration [TS]

00:47:54   of the cable / huh [TS]

00:47:56   um although they have now eliminated the [TS]

00:47:59   one thing that you could connect to [TS]

00:48:01   their devices with from the analog but [TS]

00:48:04   in any case which is a which as I say it [TS]

00:48:08   I realized is one of my catchphrases [TS]

00:48:10   yeah they sent me stop talking really [TS]

00:48:11   uh-huh [TS]

00:48:13   apple for 15 years has been making [TS]

00:48:16   things that you cannot not get yeah it's [TS]

00:48:20   just feel that way yeah I tied myself to [TS]

00:48:22   them [TS]

00:48:23   I you know I buckled myself around the [TS]

00:48:27   next to apple back in two thousand let's [TS]

00:48:31   call it i think it was probably about [TS]

00:48:33   two thousand four when we went to the [TS]

00:48:35   ucsf computer store from which our shows [TS]

00:48:37   image is derived was the 2004-2005 2004 [TS]

00:48:43   you've got yourself one of those uh [TS]

00:48:44   white to ibooks I got a white ibook her [TS]

00:48:48   up but I had I was not referring to see [TS]

00:48:49   one the other one the square was pretty [TS]

00:48:51   is a pretty computer it was a beautiful [TS]

00:48:52   computer and I lost that computer in [TS]

00:48:55   Chile did it was it was shoplifting out [TS]

00:48:58   of my bag I and I wasn't even in the [TS]

00:49:01   shop I was cafe lifted out of my bag [TS]

00:49:03   oh that's not cricket now in a town in [TS]

00:49:06   the in northern Chile and i'm still I'm [TS]

00:49:09   still mad about it i hoped i wish pox [TS]

00:49:12   upon the house of the person hope they [TS]

00:49:13   choke on it [TS]

00:49:14   yeah because it was a nice computer and [TS]

00:49:17   and I assume that i would still be it [TS]

00:49:19   would still be running ios6 and i would [TS]

00:49:21   still be [TS]

00:49:24   but this is your regular it was it's [TS]

00:49:28   easily been four years since I stopped [TS]

00:49:30   caring whether you're actually kidding [TS]

00:49:31   and I just I just ride the wave now [TS]

00:49:33   enjoy it [TS]

00:49:33   yeah but but even before the white [TS]

00:49:35   laptop i had and i was invested in the [TS]

00:49:38   one of the towers a blue tower oj that [TS]

00:49:41   was really the blue light one blue and [TS]

00:49:43   white time you can meet Rock I had that [TS]

00:49:45   same computer wasn't that a nice those [TS]

00:49:47   the 73 know the g3 that person anymore [TS]

00:49:50   that was running like iOS to oh my god [TS]

00:49:52   my foot who's running that was running [TS]

00:49:55   it was a thing where i went and bought [TS]

00:49:57   some recording software and the [TS]

00:49:59   recording software required that I have [TS]

00:50:02   a piece that I have a board put into the [TS]

00:50:05   town only getting bored and that's what [TS]

00:50:06   you buy at our community boards in it [TS]

00:50:08   that's right and so I so sup the tower [TS]

00:50:10   myself and put the board for my [TS]

00:50:14   recording software in there [TS]

00:50:15   jiminy Christmas this was a big time [TS]

00:50:17   movie but then then the thing is not a [TS]

00:50:19   thing that you can just sell because [TS]

00:50:21   it's got your own for you personalize it [TS]

00:50:23   with your own stuff that you're born [TS]

00:50:24   into that board now is worth zero [TS]

00:50:28   dollars it's worth less than two [TS]

00:50:29   well yeah um so I was kid I was attached [TS]

00:50:34   to these guys now you say to me Oh go [TS]

00:50:35   into the store and see if you like the [TS]

00:50:37   feel of it will of course I'm going to [TS]

00:50:39   the store and you see if this thing is [TS]

00:50:40   usable of course it's I don't try to be [TS]

00:50:43   rational about this and go and only real [TS]

00:50:44   just doop de doop [TS]

00:50:46   no I wanted and I get everyone's well [TS]

00:50:48   somebody on on the internet will save [TS]

00:50:49   some song and I just stopped listening [TS]

00:50:51   because i'm a member of this religion [TS]

00:50:54   but you know where they also remember [TS]

00:50:56   from a practical basis i mean it said [TS]

00:50:58   that's funny and true but you're also [TS]

00:50:59   part of that ecosystem it's like that [TS]

00:51:02   stuff kind of makes sense to you and the [TS]

00:51:04   ecosystem such as it is it's as much as [TS]

00:51:06   it's like what is whoever Mark Twain and [TS]

00:51:08   democracy you know it's like all the [TS]

00:51:10   other ones shittier yeah that was [TS]

00:51:12   Abraham Lincoln but yes all you sure [TS]

00:51:13   about that at all the other ones are [TS]

00:51:15   skinnier Abraham Lincoln upton sinclair [TS]

00:51:17   I felt like yeah Robert rabbit rest [TS]

00:51:21   yes sure it felt like when I went into [TS]

00:51:26   the store the last time that I was so [TS]

00:51:28   yield to this universe this ecosystem if [TS]

00:51:31   you will [TS]

00:51:32   I was I was like one of those New Yorker [TS]

00:51:34   cartoons where two guys are hanging by [TS]

00:51:36   shackles with long periods and look it [TS]

00:51:39   get a cell its introduction and somebody [TS]

00:51:43   else then one of them said there are [TS]

00:51:45   15,000 bricks in myself and I've counted [TS]

00:51:48   them all and the other one said have you [TS]

00:51:50   named them yet [TS]

00:51:52   I was like yeah that's my life Yeah [TS]

00:51:54   right there [TS]

00:51:56   apple and they can do whatever they want [TS]

00:51:59   with me they take away the black [TS]

00:52:00   turtlenecks they put people in kinkos [TS]

00:52:02   shirts and they're telling me they're [TS]

00:52:05   partnering with with your meeting with [TS]

00:52:08   pokemon they poked with a partner with [TS]

00:52:09   that with Mario partner with mario gold [TS]

00:52:13   bar air who and like like Phil sent me [TS]

00:52:17   an email the other day a Smokey the Bear [TS]

00:52:20   watch it was like what I don't usually [TS]

00:52:23   open their emails but I open this one [TS]

00:52:25   say who and there was a watch that's a [TS]

00:52:29   filthy little watch made by be shinola [TS]

00:52:34   company can shinola is a brand-new the [TS]

00:52:37   olden times they literally bought the [TS]

00:52:40   name of the shoe polish company to [TS]

00:52:41   inmate watches [TS]

00:52:42   yeah they bought him some some hipsters [TS]

00:52:44   a fifty-year-old hipster I mean this [TS]

00:52:46   happened like I think that's probably [TS]

00:52:47   happened during your daughter's life [TS]

00:52:48   time this is not this is not an old [TS]

00:52:49   brand in the last five years yeah it's [TS]

00:52:52   about matters worse [TS]

00:52:53   it says shinola circuit and 1912 sure [TS]

00:52:57   there's macklemore's making watches it [TS]

00:52:59   and then the watch costs a thousand [TS]

00:53:02   dollars but now but now in in it in a [TS]

00:53:05   triple brand in the hat trick of [TS]

00:53:07   branding and it's got a Smokey the Bear [TS]

00:53:08   shinola has put a smokey the bear face [TS]

00:53:11   on the filson watch to commemorate the [TS]

00:53:14   national parks now that's that's that's [TS]

00:53:17   that's a nice gesture and this is a [TS]

00:53:19   business so this is a watch for a [TS]

00:53:20   thousand dollars by giving us two [TS]

00:53:21   schools probably mmm I don't think [TS]

00:53:23   they're giving them away [TS]

00:53:24   ok i looked at it and and gosh darn it [TS]

00:53:29   if that little smokey the bear face [TS]

00:53:31   wasn't somewhat enticing to he's like [TS]

00:53:34   part of our childhood i watch with [TS]

00:53:36   smokey on it please you only you only [TS]

00:53:40   you who [TS]

00:53:42   and I but then I realized that I was [TS]

00:53:45   being manipulated [TS]

00:53:46   yeah and you know they might as well put [TS]

00:53:49   mr. your face on it they put mr. your [TS]

00:53:51   content API would be that what i would [TS]

00:53:53   have been upstairs in my shoebox captain [TS]

00:53:56   out my silver dollar only you only [TS]

00:53:58   believe something you can prevent your [TS]

00:54:01   face [TS]

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