Roderick on the Line

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00:00:21 ◼   ► oh hai jaan hai Maryland was going [TS]

00:00:28 ◼   ► pretty good [TS]

00:00:31 ◼   ► mmm i get the sense every monday a [TS]

00:00:34 ◼   ► little bit after ten no big deal when I [TS]

00:00:37 ◼   ► am asking a question you really think [TS]

00:00:39 ◼   ► about it for a minute i say how's it [TS]

00:00:40 ◼   ► going and I really feel like you're you [TS]

00:00:42 ◼   ► know you're not responding by rote [TS]

00:00:44 ◼   ► you're turning it over maybe not awake [TS]

00:00:46 ◼   ► yet but it seems like something you're [TS]

00:00:48 ◼   ► turning over in your mind [TS]

00:00:49 ◼   ► yeah I I you know I think that I tried [TS]

00:00:52 ◼   ► to answer every latitudinal inquiry from [TS]

00:00:57 ◼   ► everybody authentically mean I'm not [TS]

00:01:01 ◼   ► somebody that's in the supermarket there [TS]

00:01:04 ◼   ► in your case the the line at bartels [TS]

00:01:06 ◼   ► cannot that is not how I played [TS]

00:01:09 ◼   ► walgreens walgreen oh yeah walgreens [TS]

00:01:11 ◼   ► well right yeah you're not that you're [TS]

00:01:13 ◼   ► not somebody that I'm not around I'm not [TS]

00:01:15 ◼   ► somebody rather who will sit there and [TS]

00:01:17 ◼   ► in response to the guy saying I did [TS]

00:01:20 ◼   ► today go are my sciatica vey vey iz Mir [TS]

00:01:26 ◼   ► but the other night I was at the grocery [TS]

00:01:29 ◼   ► store 1159 that closes at twelve was [TS]

00:01:33 ◼   ► having a bad day and the guy that was [TS]

00:01:36 ◼   ► working there has been working there for [TS]

00:01:38 ◼   ► a long time [TS]

00:01:39 ◼   ► he's always working there the late shift [TS]

00:01:42 ◼   ► he's not he's not like one of the old [TS]

00:01:43 ◼   ► guys he's in his late thirties and he [TS]

00:01:48 ◼   ► carries himself with a very sort of ice [TS]

00:01:51 ◼   ► cube level of intensity I've tried to [TS]

00:01:56 ◼   ► banter with him many times he's not [TS]

00:01:59 ◼   ► interested in bantering with me when I'm [TS]

00:02:01 ◼   ► in a good mood he doesn't care when I [TS]

00:02:05 ◼   ► just play it cool [TS]

00:02:06 ◼   ► he doesn't care he's not registering me [TS]

00:02:09 ◼   ► and whether it's you know i'm used to [TS]

00:02:12 ◼   ► flirting with everybody and he surely [TS]

00:02:16 ◼   ► has noticed me because I'm flirtin with [TS]

00:02:18 ◼   ► him like crazy [TS]

00:02:19 ◼   ► he just isn't gonna get any work [TS]

00:02:21 ◼   ► somewhere you know you are aware of more [TS]

00:02:26 ◼   ► people than you might realize that you [TS]

00:02:28 ◼   ► know like you probably at the newsstand [TS]

00:02:29 ◼   ► you could probably sit down if you [TS]

00:02:31 ◼   ► really put your mind to it at that time [TS]

00:02:33 ◼   ► had made a list of like 30 character [TS]

00:02:35 ◼   ► first the owner just a tiny bit about [TS]

00:02:37 ◼   ► all more than that I mean you're [TS]

00:02:38 ◼   ► absolutely right just like yeah a lot [TS]

00:02:41 ◼   ► but his vibe is just not happening [TS]

00:02:44 ◼   ► because he's a cool character that's [TS]

00:02:47 ◼   ► right and so it's just the two of us in [TS]

00:02:49 ◼   ► the store so 1159 the stores closing [TS]

00:02:53 ◼   ► I've tried to make chitchat with him [TS]

00:02:55 ◼   ► over the years sites i surrendered a [TS]

00:02:57 ◼   ► long time ago and not and not unfriendly [TS]

00:03:00 ◼   ► to him but just like I'm not chicken [TS]

00:03:01 ◼   ► right you know that's not what you want [TS]

00:03:03 ◼   ► but he says [TS]

00:03:05 ◼   ► how's it going tonight and I was having [TS]

00:03:08 ◼   ► a really bad day and I said you know [TS]

00:03:10 ◼   ► today's been really bad and I have no [TS]

00:03:18 ◼   ► idea why I did it I just he asked me a [TS]

00:03:22 ◼   ► question and they were you're vulnerable [TS]

00:03:25 ◼   ► uh-huh and you would want this story to [TS]

00:03:28 ◼   ► end with us like with him stopping what [TS]

00:03:31 ◼   ► he was doing going wow man tell me back [TS]

00:03:34 ◼   ► like a bartender but that's not how [TS]

00:03:37 ◼   ► historians he he continued to ring up my [TS]

00:03:40 ◼   ► my pity food which was like a piece of [TS]

00:03:45 ◼   ► cake a bowl of above box of ice cream [TS]

00:03:47 ◼   ► and the shore no pizza [TS]

00:03:50 ◼   ► oh no is your pity food and and then he [TS]

00:03:55 ◼   ► was like you know have a nice night or [TS]

00:03:56 ◼   ► whatever like zero acknowledgement I was [TS]

00:04:00 ◼   ► like yeah random I'm glad there were no [TS]

00:04:03 ◼   ► they were both still in character have a [TS]

00:04:04 ◼   ► good night [TS]

00:04:05 ◼   ► yeah yeah b- whatever okay getting at [TS]

00:04:09 ◼   ► but ya did you read that article Merlin [TS]

00:04:13 ◼   ► recently about the about the b division [TS]

00:04:17 ◼   ► of the Metropolitan Police in Britain [TS]

00:04:20 ◼   ► that is now using super recognizers [TS]

00:04:22 ◼   ► supertaster but faces [TS]

00:04:26 ◼   ► yes i just--literally guess that that [TS]

00:04:28 ◼   ► success very good everybody's better [TS]

00:04:30 ◼   ► everybody everyone is better accept [TS]

00:04:33 ◼   ► these people [TS]

00:04:34 ◼   ► ok so that's seriously what is it [TS]

00:04:35 ◼   ► because like this is a human humans as [TS]

00:04:38 ◼   ► they say [TS]

00:04:39 ◼   ► yeah we've had were all aware of [TS]

00:04:42 ◼   ► face-blindness being a real problem for [TS]

00:04:45 ◼   ► people that have face blindness [TS]

00:04:47 ◼   ► they they can't recognize I mean pure [TS]

00:04:50 ◼   ► face-blindness you can't even recognize [TS]

00:04:51 ◼   ► yourself in the mirror [TS]

00:04:53 ◼   ► yeah this is why reading those Oliver [TS]

00:04:55 ◼   ► Sacks books is such a trip because and [TS]

00:04:57 ◼   ► actually I do have a topic that I want [TS]

00:04:58 ◼   ► to bring up thats related to this where [TS]

00:05:00 ◼   ► you there are certain kinds of things [TS]

00:05:01 ◼   ► we're just even knowing that they exist [TS]

00:05:04 ◼   ► no matter how inoculated you feel or how [TS]

00:05:06 ◼   ► healthy you think you probably are you [TS]

00:05:09 ◼   ► cannot help but start doing like the [TS]

00:05:12 ◼   ► third act of 6 cents like running [TS]

00:05:13 ◼   ► through your head like are there times [TS]

00:05:14 ◼   ► when I had this and didn't know it [TS]

00:05:16 ◼   ► mm you know saying well this article is [TS]

00:05:20 ◼   ► really fascinating there's a minute [TS]

00:05:22 ◼   ► it's fascinating in part because it's so [TS]

00:05:25 ◼   ► obvious you know it's one of these these [TS]

00:05:28 ◼   ► moments where it's like God but it [TS]

00:05:31 ◼   ► wasn't like a didn't come from a [TS]

00:05:33 ◼   ► university it wasn't a science [TS]

00:05:34 ◼   ► scientists initiated program it was just [TS]

00:05:38 ◼   ► some detective at the at the you know [TS]

00:05:43 ◼   ► some bobby i guess i don't know what [TS]

00:05:45 ◼   ► Bobby is frankly the epic to be a Bobby [TS]

00:05:48 ◼   ► you have to have a hat and twirl up [TS]

00:05:49 ◼   ► nightstick turns out that's because the [TS]

00:05:52 ◼   ► London Metropolitan Police Force was [TS]

00:05:54 ◼   ► started by a man named Robert really [TS]

00:05:56 ◼   ► turns out by armed so I'm mom [TS]

00:06:00 ◼   ► so guys there's like look we've got [TS]

00:06:02 ◼   ► we've got more CCTV cameras than any [TS]

00:06:04 ◼   ► other place in the world by a factor of [TS]

00:06:06 ◼   ► 10 but all this information is not being [TS]

00:06:09 ◼   ► processed because we don't have the [TS]

00:06:11 ◼   ► capacity to process that we keep buying [TS]

00:06:13 ◼   ► all these new computer programs but [TS]

00:06:15 ◼   ► computers can't really wait through the [TS]

00:06:17 ◼   ► millions of faces we record every day [TS]

00:06:19 ◼   ► this system is like a useless system but [TS]

00:06:22 ◼   ► he he noticed that there were certain [TS]

00:06:24 ◼   ► detectives that would just be sort of [TS]

00:06:27 ◼   ► out doing their job and somebody would [TS]

00:06:30 ◼   ► walk past and they'd be like that guy [TS]

00:06:32 ◼   ► there's a warrant out for his arrest [TS]

00:06:32 ◼   ► from 17 years ago for purse-snatching [TS]

00:06:36 ◼   ► likes a little bit [TS]

00:06:37 ◼   ► Dustin Hoffman right yeah yeah well i [TS]

00:06:40 ◼   ► mean if you don't I mean I'm avoiding [TS]

00:06:41 ◼   ► saying it but it's somebody is somebody [TS]

00:06:43 ◼   ► who has not just an uncanny ability to [TS]

00:06:45 ◼   ► see a face and associated but then to [TS]

00:06:47 ◼   ► have that data be able to pull up [TS]

00:06:49 ◼   ► quickly and like I know why I know that [TS]

00:06:51 ◼   ► person I see people in the street like I [TS]

00:06:52 ◼   ► think that person was my waitress five [TS]

00:06:54 ◼   ► years ago but could you are you exactly [TS]

00:06:56 ◼   ► well and so these are these people that [TS]

00:06:57 ◼   ► have this gift right there had a and and [TS]

00:06:59 ◼   ► so he started he made up a 10 [TS]

00:07:01 ◼   ► for them or there's some kind of test [TS]

00:07:02 ◼   ► face recognition test and they're all [TS]

00:07:05 ◼   ► these people working at the police [TS]

00:07:08 ◼   ► department already who are like oh yeah [TS]

00:07:10 ◼   ► I just I'm like I'm working the evidence [TS]

00:07:12 ◼   ► rumor you know I'm the lady that [TS]

00:07:14 ◼   ► processes all the data reams and he just [TS]

00:07:20 ◼   ► gave his testimony and and there are [TS]

00:07:21 ◼   ► certain people that can that recognize [TS]

00:07:24 ◼   ► all the the the bit characters in movies [TS]

00:07:27 ◼   ► and they're like oh that guy who's [TS]

00:07:29 ◼   ► playing the farmer in the background was [TS]

00:07:32 ◼   ► the guy that was playing the farther you [TS]

00:07:33 ◼   ► know the the 15th soldiers from the left [TS]

00:07:36 ◼   ► in in that war movie you know like this [TS]

00:07:39 ◼   ► have this photo recognition of faces and [TS]

00:07:42 ◼   ► he compiled them into a little gang and [TS]

00:07:46 ◼   ► said here now start coming through all [TS]

00:07:49 ◼   ► this CCTV footage that's kind of been [TS]

00:07:52 ◼   ► pre combed you know like using [TS]

00:07:54 ◼   ► algorithms we've narrowed it down to [TS]

00:07:56 ◼   ► just 10 thousand pictures or something [TS]

00:07:59 ◼   ► and this little team is like that's the [TS]

00:08:01 ◼   ► guy that's the guy that's the guy just [TS]

00:08:03 ◼   ► solving crimes just what i want to do [TS]

00:08:08 ◼   ► Merlin all i want to do is solve crimes [TS]

00:08:10 ◼   ► what all we all any of us want to do is [TS]

00:08:12 ◼   ► solve crimes and it's always there [TS]

00:08:14 ◼   ► these people are solving crime that was [TS]

00:08:17 ◼   ► something with something that they [TS]

00:08:18 ◼   ► already know how to do they have a [TS]

00:08:20 ◼   ► superpower basically it's a superpower [TS]

00:08:22 ◼   ► yeah and so then this article goes on to [TS]

00:08:25 ◼   ► say [TS]

00:08:26 ◼   ► statistically it's inevitable that there [TS]

00:08:32 ◼   ► are police officers out there who have [TS]

00:08:35 ◼   ► face blindness who are made a big part [TS]

00:08:39 ◼   ► of your job is like that's the guy I saw [TS]

00:08:43 ◼   ► him do it or you know like I recognize [TS]

00:08:47 ◼   ► the perp from across the store and there [TS]

00:08:50 ◼   ► are cops out there who are like yeah I'm [TS]

00:08:52 ◼   ► a policeman [TS]

00:08:53 ◼   ► I can't tell to completely [TS]

00:08:57 ◼   ► different-looking people apart and [TS]

00:08:59 ◼   ► they're making IDs and they're [TS]

00:09:01 ◼   ► testifying in court right notorious and [TS]

00:09:04 ◼   ► reliable right well and that's that's [TS]

00:09:07 ◼   ► true but but notoriously unreliable it [TS]

00:09:10 ◼   ► like like lineups and and [TS]

00:09:13 ◼   ► and that type of thing are unreliable [TS]

00:09:15 ◼   ► amongst the boy huh [TS]

00:09:19 ◼   ► but these people they're there are [TS]

00:09:21 ◼   ► people and now used and we start to [TS]

00:09:22 ◼   ► think about it like there's just there's [TS]

00:09:25 ◼   ► statistically a large number of people [TS]

00:09:28 ◼   ► that have this talent in varying degrees [TS]

00:09:30 ◼   ► and even among the people that habit [TS]

00:09:34 ◼   ► there are some who are recognized as [TS]

00:09:36 ◼   ► like amazing that's that's that's [TS]

00:09:38 ◼   ► amazing but they saw the article starts [TS]

00:09:41 ◼   ► to say why wouldn't you give this test [TS]

00:09:46 ◼   ► to every police officer and people that [TS]

00:09:50 ◼   ► have face blindness should not be beat [TS]

00:09:54 ◼   ► cops [TS]

00:09:55 ◼   ► it's a it should be experimentation [TS]

00:09:59 ◼   ► maybe desk Bobby's a desk Bobby right or [TS]

00:10:03 ◼   ► like some kind of mother Bobbi uh-huh [TS]

00:10:06 ◼   ► like a like an evidence room Bobby hora [TS]

00:10:08 ◼   ► like a morgue Bobby we need all [TS]

00:10:10 ◼   ► different kinds of Bobby's sure if you [TS]

00:10:12 ◼   ► want to be a Bobby you be more Bobby but [TS]

00:10:14 ◼   ► you owe and even more gonna have to [TS]

00:10:16 ◼   ► recognize and faces you don't want to [TS]

00:10:17 ◼   ► put the one guy in the one box and the [TS]

00:10:19 ◼   ► other gal in the other box so it but it [TS]

00:10:24 ◼   ► you know you sit there and you're like [TS]

00:10:25 ◼   ► okay this there's one police station in [TS]

00:10:27 ◼   ► the world that's doing this now and even [TS]

00:10:30 ◼   ► and and even that feels like it's feels [TS]

00:10:33 ◼   ► like somebody higher up good eliminated [TS]

00:10:35 ◼   ► in in an afternoon just because they [TS]

00:10:37 ◼   ► don't like the guy's face haha nice but [TS]

00:10:42 ◼   ► uh but it's just started this cascading [TS]

00:10:45 ◼   ► wave of in my head of what of what is [TS]

00:10:50 ◼   ► plainly obvious which is that people [TS]

00:10:53 ◼   ► have aptitudes I that's exactly what I [TS]

00:10:56 ◼   ► was thinking [TS]

00:10:56 ◼   ► yeah and we're always testing testing [TS]

00:10:59 ◼   ► you know testing kids testing testing [TS]

00:11:01 ◼   ► testing testing for four things you know [TS]

00:11:06 ◼   ► we're testing [TS]

00:11:07 ◼   ► I mean when I want to i would first [TS]

00:11:08 ◼   ► moved to Seattle I tried to get a job as [TS]

00:11:10 ◼   ► a doorman in a fancy building and I was [TS]

00:11:14 ◼   ► given like a 40-page test twice that was [TS]

00:11:19 ◼   ► one of those tests was like if I saw [TS]

00:11:21 ◼   ► fellow employees still a paperclip I [TS]

00:11:24 ◼   ► would a [TS]

00:11:26 ◼   ► call the police like is it like a [TS]

00:11:27 ◼   ► myers-briggs kind of thing around and [TS]

00:11:29 ◼   ► pie it's no it's trying to determine if [TS]

00:11:32 ◼   ► I am honest alright but it like like one [TS]

00:11:36 ◼   ► of these things like if I saw fellow [TS]

00:11:38 ◼   ► employees still a paperclip i would call [TS]

00:11:39 ◼   ► the police call the FBI tackle him to [TS]

00:11:42 ◼   ► the floor or a curl up in a ball and cry [TS]

00:11:46 ◼   ► and it's like it's none of the above [TS]

00:11:48 ◼   ► well you have to pick one like these [TS]

00:11:50 ◼   ► tests that are it's better just they're [TS]

00:11:53 ◼   ► just crazy and see a tortoise on its [TS]

00:11:55 ◼   ► back baking in the Sun I i totally agree [TS]

00:11:59 ◼   ► and not least because I think there are [TS]

00:12:02 ◼   ► super powers that probably exist that [TS]

00:12:04 ◼   ► are the kind of things you would see in [TS]

00:12:06 ◼   ► DC and Marvel but you also think about I [TS]

00:12:09 ◼   ► don't beer too reductive here but think [TS]

00:12:11 ◼   ► about giving kids tests in school which [TS]

00:12:15 ◼   ► is so rife with problems and it's just [TS]

00:12:19 ◼   ► but I mean so the basic idea is like [TS]

00:12:21 ◼   ► okay well i'm gonna give you a test of [TS]

00:12:22 ◼   ► what we studied this week and arithmetic [TS]

00:12:26 ◼   ► and you know these things we told you [TS]

00:12:28 ◼   ► that there's going to be a test and we [TS]

00:12:30 ◼   ► were going to give you this test the [TS]

00:12:31 ◼   ► thing is that like the the most [TS]

00:12:33 ◼   ► important thing about taking a test is [TS]

00:12:35 ◼   ► knowing how to take a test which we [TS]

00:12:37 ◼   ► don't teach people really until they [TS]

00:12:39 ◼   ► take an elective you know s80 prep they [TS]

00:12:42 ◼   ► don't you know where you learned that [TS]

00:12:44 ◼   ► there's a lot of gaining to it in some [TS]

00:12:46 ◼   ► ways for that kind of test yeah it's a [TS]

00:12:48 ◼   ► bit if there's a more standardized tests [TS]

00:12:51 ◼   ► but i guess i guess on trying to look [TS]

00:12:52 ◼   ► first of all I think we have to always [TS]

00:12:53 ◼   ► admit that in the same way that like [TS]

00:12:55 ◼   ► managers tend to hire people that they [TS]

00:12:57 ◼   ► would like to manage my manage somebody [TS]

00:12:59 ◼   ► who you're not going to hire somebody [TS]

00:13:00 ◼   ► you can't manage the way the company [TS]

00:13:03 ◼   ► changes and grows and if it's cancer [TS]

00:13:06 ◼   ► cases involves is gonna be heavily [TS]

00:13:08 ◼   ► circumscribed by the interests and [TS]

00:13:11 ◼   ► hang-ups of the people who are making [TS]

00:13:14 ◼   ► hiring decisions so it's I mean that's a [TS]

00:13:16 ◼   ► little bit of a of a rabbit hole here [TS]

00:13:18 ◼   ► but you know that's one reason companies [TS]

00:13:20 ◼   ► don't change as quickly as people would [TS]

00:13:22 ◼   ► like it because they're not changing the [TS]

00:13:23 ◼   ► kind of people that they hire so it's [TS]

00:13:26 ◼   ► kind of crazy to think that it would [TS]

00:13:27 ◼   ► change but it's also a matter of you [TS]

00:13:28 ◼   ► know and I I would never say anything [TS]

00:13:30 ◼   ► disparaging about teachers or [TS]

00:13:32 ◼   ► administrators that they've got a job to [TS]

00:13:34 ◼   ► do their job is to run the school you [TS]

00:13:37 ◼   ► know it's yeah sure secondarily with the [TS]

00:13:39 ◼   ► kids vs [TS]

00:13:39 ◼   ► educated but there is this professor x [TS]

00:13:41 ◼   ► part of my brain that thinks like you [TS]

00:13:43 ◼   ► know there's think about all of the [TS]

00:13:45 ◼   ► things involving mental organic chemical [TS]

00:13:49 ◼   ► things that we've learned that that's [TS]

00:13:52 ◼   ► make this vastly rethink the way we [TS]

00:13:53 ◼   ► treated what you might call mental [TS]

00:13:54 ◼   ► illness or madness over the past [TS]

00:13:56 ◼   ► millennium right it's not necessary it's [TS]

00:13:58 ◼   ► not bad humors it's not that you have a [TS]

00:14:00 ◼   ► troll living in your head you know and [TS]

00:14:02 ◼   ► kids that were in the brown reading [TS]

00:14:03 ◼   ► group when I was in the third grade we [TS]

00:14:06 ◼   ► now understand you might have a spectrum [TS]

00:14:07 ◼   ► disorder where they might have a [TS]

00:14:08 ◼   ► chemical imbalance or there could be all [TS]

00:14:10 ◼   ► kinds of things that help explain but [TS]

00:14:11 ◼   ► until we have a way to name and measure [TS]

00:14:14 ◼   ► it like it isn't real and so in this [TS]

00:14:17 ◼   ► this is what fascinates you know you're [TS]

00:14:18 ◼   ► saying is like how many things are out [TS]

00:14:19 ◼   ► there we just haven't figured out might [TS]

00:14:21 ◼   ► exist because we don't know what to call [TS]

00:14:22 ◼   ► it or how to measure it [TS]

00:14:23 ◼   ► well it and i think it I think what it's [TS]

00:14:26 ◼   ► inspiring me to think about is like we [TS]

00:14:28 ◼   ► spend a lot of time measuring and there [TS]

00:14:34 ◼   ► are a lot of things were afraid to [TS]

00:14:35 ◼   ► measure right this is this is one of the [TS]

00:14:37 ◼   ► big problems of liberalism more about [TS]

00:14:41 ◼   ► the problem of just equality the idea of [TS]

00:14:43 ◼   ► equality it's as soon as you start [TS]

00:14:45 ◼   ► measuring people your you get into this [TS]

00:14:48 ◼   ► posture of like let's say there's [TS]

00:14:49 ◼   ► somebody wants to be a Bobby and they [TS]

00:14:51 ◼   ► take a they take an exam and they have [TS]

00:14:55 ◼   ► face blindness [TS]

00:14:57 ◼   ► now you can make a strong case that face [TS]

00:15:02 ◼   ► blindness actually precludes them from [TS]

00:15:06 ◼   ► being able to properly do the job of of [TS]

00:15:09 ◼   ► policing street police but you can [TS]

00:15:12 ◼   ► imagine the lawsuit also that you know I [TS]

00:15:16 ◼   ► want to be a police officer take it like [TS]

00:15:18 ◼   ► a disability [TS]

00:15:19 ◼   ► yeah i'm being discriminated against [TS]

00:15:20 ◼   ► because i have faced blanks right and [TS]

00:15:23 ◼   ► you know and then the other side is like [TS]

00:15:26 ◼   ► well no I mean we we have a job for you [TS]

00:15:29 ◼   ► here in the in the in the Bobby morgue [TS]

00:15:33 ◼   ► and then you realize well now there's [TS]

00:15:36 ◼   ► 800 people working in the Bobby more [TS]

00:15:37 ◼   ► because they all want to be police [TS]

00:15:38 ◼   ► officers and they all have faced blind [TS]

00:15:40 ◼   ► right and I've always said about college [TS]

00:15:44 ◼   ► professors like the people that the [TS]

00:15:47 ◼   ► right now we use [TS]

00:15:49 ◼   ► the phd system to determine who is who [TS]

00:15:55 ◼   ► are professors are but sort of like [TS]

00:15:57 ◼   ► running for City Council the ability to [TS]

00:16:00 ◼   ► get a PhD and the build ability to be a [TS]

00:16:02 ◼   ► good interesting instructor on a topic [TS]

00:16:04 ◼   ► are in some ways mutually exclusive like [TS]

00:16:07 ◼   ► running for City Council and being a [TS]

00:16:09 ◼   ► city councilperson are totally different [TS]

00:16:11 ◼   ► jobs and so our colleges are built [TS]

00:16:15 ◼   ► around the idea that phd's are the [TS]

00:16:16 ◼   ► teachers but ph DS Arnott interesting [TS]

00:16:19 ◼   ► but eh but phd's then people who have [TS]

00:16:22 ◼   ► had PhDs four years also become the [TS]

00:16:24 ◼   ► people who make the rules [TS]

00:16:26 ◼   ► yahoo to send me and what measure yeah [TS]

00:16:29 ◼   ► and so you know the best teachers are [TS]

00:16:31 ◼   ► storytellers and people that get up and [TS]

00:16:34 ◼   ► have a mental map of the topic and are [TS]

00:16:36 ◼   ► able to make it interesting and [TS]

00:16:38 ◼   ► connected to other things and your [TS]

00:16:39 ◼   ► scintillating and that requires a kind [TS]

00:16:42 ◼   ► of mind that is antithetical almost to [TS]

00:16:48 ◼   ► doing a deep dive on you know on Zelda [TS]

00:16:52 ◼   ► Fitzgerald's diaries and writing a you [TS]

00:16:57 ◼   ► know a 900-page exegesis on you know on [TS]

00:17:00 ◼   ► two months of Zelda Fitzgerald's Diaries [TS]

00:17:03 ◼   ► it's like that's not an interesting [TS]

00:17:04 ◼   ► story teller if you can do that [TS]

00:17:06 ◼   ► successfully congratulations here are [TS]

00:17:08 ◼   ► here's a chestful of ribbons you should [TS]

00:17:11 ◼   ► be buried in the stacks for the rest of [TS]

00:17:13 ◼   ► your career doing that which you clearly [TS]

00:17:15 ◼   ► love you shouldn't be like put put in [TS]

00:17:18 ◼   ► front of a group of 18 year olds who are [TS]

00:17:21 ◼   ► tossing frisbees in the back your class [TS]

00:17:23 ◼   ► and given the impossible goal of making [TS]

00:17:25 ◼   ► it interesting to them should be a [TS]

00:17:27 ◼   ► library Bobby should be library papi [TS]

00:17:29 ◼   ► yeah so for instance you know we talked [TS]

00:17:31 ◼   ► about there all the time this feeling of [TS]

00:17:33 ◼   ► being underused or of trying to find [TS]

00:17:35 ◼   ► your dock and in so many ways it's like [TS]

00:17:41 ◼   ► for me it's been obvious for a long time [TS]

00:17:43 ◼   ► i have i have a mental geography you [TS]

00:17:47 ◼   ► know I can and it's exactly like face [TS]

00:17:50 ◼   ► recognition there's that mean if you [TS]

00:17:54 ◼   ► give me a piece of information I can put [TS]

00:17:56 ◼   ► it into an architecture that I've built [TS]

00:17:59 ◼   ► in my mind of history and geography [TS]

00:18:03 ◼   ► and I and I and I find the little you [TS]

00:18:05 ◼   ► know it's like the it's like the Indiana [TS]

00:18:07 ◼   ► Jones warehouse and i wield a little [TS]

00:18:11 ◼   ► card of this new piece of information [TS]

00:18:12 ◼   ► down a long hallway and I turn left and [TS]

00:18:16 ◼   ► I know where it goes [TS]

00:18:17 ◼   ► you know it's catalogued in my mind and [TS]

00:18:20 ◼   ► when I interact with other people that [TS]

00:18:21 ◼   ► don't have it which is most people I've [TS]

00:18:24 ◼   ► always confused like oo IC you don't [TS]

00:18:27 ◼   ► not only do you not know that where we [TS]

00:18:30 ◼   ► stand where you live there are 15 [TS]

00:18:32 ◼   ► different roads you can take back to [TS]

00:18:34 ◼   ► your house because you only ever tickets [TS]

00:18:35 ◼   ► don't think that way better just don't [TS]

00:18:37 ◼   ► think that way you don't see it you [TS]

00:18:38 ◼   ► don't see your house and where we are [TS]

00:18:40 ◼   ► now in a in a map it's not that [TS]

00:18:42 ◼   ► different from having perfect pitch [TS]

00:18:43 ◼   ► where even if you describe it to [TS]

00:18:45 ◼   ► somebody still can't really know what [TS]

00:18:46 ◼   ► it's like right to tell you that like [TS]

00:18:48 ◼   ► every almost every sound that they hear [TS]

00:18:50 ◼   ► fall somewhere on like a map of tones [TS]

00:18:53 ◼   ► for them and you know everybody else [TS]

00:18:54 ◼   ► would even be aware that that exist let [TS]

00:18:56 ◼   ► alone be able to do it [TS]

00:18:57 ◼   ► yeah there's and there are plenty of [TS]

00:18:58 ◼   ► people who see that note and can pull it [TS]

00:19:00 ◼   ► out and tell you where it fits into [TS]

00:19:02 ◼   ► chords and you know it's like they have [TS]

00:19:03 ◼   ► it in their head let alone you know the [TS]

00:19:06 ◼   ► architecture of how does the French [TS]

00:19:08 ◼   ► Revolution play into how did the french [TS]

00:19:11 ◼   ► revolution effect wore one right that's [TS]

00:19:12 ◼   ► a similar kind of geography now what [TS]

00:19:15 ◼   ► what my face blindness azhar uh-huh i [TS]

00:19:20 ◼   ► can think of probably a few but again [TS]

00:19:23 ◼   ► you don't know what your face blindness [TS]

00:19:24 ◼   ► azhar like I don't [TS]

00:19:26 ◼   ► yeah I don't know where my where the the [TS]

00:19:28 ◼   ► big a canker sore in my you know smooth [TS]

00:19:34 ◼   ► skin is but there's no no one has ever [TS]

00:19:38 ◼   ► found a planet with you and I have found [TS]

00:19:40 ◼   ► this place we carved out a place where [TS]

00:19:43 ◼   ► we can use our our face recognition [TS]

00:19:48 ◼   ► ar-ar-ar-ar abilities here you know to [TS]

00:19:52 ◼   ► but but it's sort of even even here [TS]

00:19:57 ◼   ► incomplete because where we've never [TS]

00:19:58 ◼   ► really been tested for what we're what [TS]

00:20:01 ◼   ► it is okay and you think all the jobs in [TS]

00:20:04 ◼   ► the world that need a you or me or [TS]

00:20:08 ◼   ► anyone listening like all the all the [TS]

00:20:11 ◼   ► places where it's like oh my god you can [TS]

00:20:13 ◼   ► you totally it's a party trick for you [TS]

00:20:16 ◼   ► to name all the all the bits actors and [TS]

00:20:23 ◼   ► all the other movies you seen them in [TS]

00:20:24 ◼   ► that's like a party gag and then you go [TS]

00:20:26 ◼   ► back to your job of working in a factory [TS]

00:20:30 ◼   ► making milk shake mix when you're just [TS]

00:20:32 ◼   ► pushing a rock up a hill because that's [TS]

00:20:34 ◼   ► your racket now and there's never been a [TS]

00:20:36 ◼   ► way to know how to fit that stuff in and [TS]

00:20:39 ◼   ► civilization is like our whole culture [TS]

00:20:42 ◼   ► is missing [TS]

00:20:45 ◼   ► we're all losing out on being able to [TS]

00:20:49 ◼   ► use your ability which you know which is [TS]

00:20:53 ◼   ► native to you and you're missing out on [TS]

00:20:55 ◼   ► the experience of going to work every [TS]

00:20:56 ◼   ► day and saying solving crime solving but [TS]

00:20:59 ◼   ► if the person is in a position person or [TS]

00:21:01 ◼   ► persons in a position to decide whether [TS]

00:21:03 ◼   ► test for that doesn't doesn't someone [TS]

00:21:05 ◼   ► who suffers from face blindness not to [TS]

00:21:09 ◼   ► be nefarious but they have very few [TS]

00:21:11 ◼   ► motivations to go out unless they're [TS]

00:21:13 ◼   ► pretty big hearted in civil wanted to go [TS]

00:21:15 ◼   ► out and find people who do have it [TS]

00:21:16 ◼   ► here's what's amazing about this story [TS]

00:21:18 ◼   ► the cop that put this team of Bobby's [TS]

00:21:20 ◼   ► together does not have is not a super [TS]

00:21:23 ◼   ► recognizer he's not a super recognizer [TS]

00:21:25 ◼   ► yeah he just was a cop trying to solve [TS]

00:21:28 ◼   ► these trying to solve crimes and he's [TS]

00:21:30 ◼   ► like I keep having really good luck [TS]

00:21:32 ◼   ► going over to this a the small group of [TS]

00:21:35 ◼   ► people that sit over here in the in the [TS]

00:21:38 ◼   ► morgue and asking them if they've ever [TS]

00:21:40 ◼   ► seen this guy before and he had just [TS]

00:21:42 ◼   ► enough authority that he could say can [TS]

00:21:45 ◼   ► you know can these people be tasked to [TS]

00:21:47 ◼   ► me for this this period of time let me [TS]

00:21:49 ◼   ► try this out and I don't think he's a I [TS]

00:21:52 ◼   ► think he's not very hot popular with the [TS]

00:21:53 ◼   ► brass because he does people's by his [TS]

00:21:56 ◼   ► own rules [TS]

00:21:57 ◼   ► sure he's over there just like my garlic [TS]

00:22:00 ◼   ► all he's a little bit rogue it's like he [TS]

00:22:03 ◼   ► slapped his gun down on the debt well [TS]

00:22:04 ◼   ► it's easy Bobby so he slaps is is that a [TS]

00:22:07 ◼   ► hundred is Jenny club and he says [TS]

00:22:10 ◼   ► dominate you British blackness [TS]

00:22:17 ◼   ► I got so much to say about this into the [TS]

00:22:19 ◼   ► pan is I mean I right it's it like it it [TS]

00:22:26 ◼   ► reverberates throughout everything well [TS]

00:22:28 ◼   ► in here just real quickly here is that [TS]

00:22:31 ◼   ► you know I i'm very interested in these [TS]

00:22:33 ◼   ► ideas of what we test we measure what we [TS]

00:22:35 ◼   ► can see and we don't you know we got [TS]

00:22:36 ◼   ► these phases where we watch a lot of [TS]

00:22:38 ◼   ► harry potter and was just thinking [TS]

00:22:39 ◼   ► yesterday we're watching the six movie [TS]

00:22:44 ◼   ► and see how interesting is like how many [TS]

00:22:46 ◼   ► layers of nobility invisibility there [TS]

00:22:48 ◼   ► are in harry potter like for example [TS]

00:22:49 ◼   ► muggles can't see Hogwarts so if a model [TS]

00:22:53 ◼   ► were to go to Scotland and found where [TS]

00:22:54 ◼   ► Hogwarts was it would look like [TS]

00:22:56 ◼   ► destructed land because magic but the [TS]

00:22:58 ◼   ► point is that if you want me if you [TS]

00:23:00 ◼   ► walked across hard works we bump into [TS]

00:23:01 ◼   ► building i don't think so i think it's [TS]

00:23:03 ◼   ► disguised in such a way that basically [TS]

00:23:05 ◼   ► 202 anybody who's not in the Wizarding [TS]

00:23:06 ◼   ► community it's just the sake of argument [TS]

00:23:08 ◼   ► let's just understand that they can't [TS]

00:23:09 ◼   ► see Hogwarts but let's say you are [TS]

00:23:12 ◼   ► always there a war which you come to [TS]

00:23:13 ◼   ► Hogwarts well then you have all these [TS]

00:23:15 ◼   ► additional further layers of these [TS]

00:23:16 ◼   ► things were for example there's a [TS]

00:23:18 ◼   ► certain kind of in this particular film [TS]

00:23:21 ◼   ► there's a certain kind of you know this [TS]

00:23:23 ◼   ► mythic beasts like ghost horse thing [TS]

00:23:25 ◼   ► with ghost tours kind of like one swing [TS]

00:23:28 ◼   ► this really cool but like Harry sees [TS]

00:23:30 ◼   ► this thing is like what does anybody [TS]

00:23:32 ◼   ► else see this and the only the person [TS]

00:23:33 ◼   ► who sees it as luna lovegood and Luna [TS]

00:23:35 ◼   ► says well the only people who can see [TS]

00:23:37 ◼   ► that are people who've seen death so [TS]

00:23:39 ◼   ► there's this but there's all these [TS]

00:23:40 ◼   ► layers and layers and layers and I know [TS]

00:23:42 ◼   ► that that's a fantasy novel for kids but [TS]

00:23:45 ◼   ► I think there's all kinds of stuff like [TS]

00:23:46 ◼   ► that going on we're just because you can [TS]

00:23:47 ◼   ► see this one thing doesn't mean you can [TS]

00:23:49 ◼   ► see these other things and sometimes the [TS]

00:23:51 ◼   ► only way we derive any understanding is [TS]

00:23:53 ◼   ► by accident so what did they tell us [TS]

00:23:55 ◼   ► when we were in high school they said [TS]

00:23:57 ◼   ► okay if you want to go to college [TS]

00:23:59 ◼   ► you gotta take the SATA or the acct and [TS]

00:24:01 ◼   ► here's the thing about the s80 PSAT like [TS]

00:24:04 ◼   ► here's what we know about the s80 is [TS]

00:24:06 ◼   ► that people who do well on the s80 [TS]

00:24:09 ◼   ► there's a high correlation between [TS]

00:24:11 ◼   ► people doing well on the s80 and doing [TS]

00:24:13 ◼   ► well in college which if you really [TS]

00:24:15 ◼   ► think about it is is super interesting I [TS]

00:24:18 ◼   ► think because it's not saying that like [TS]

00:24:20 ◼   ► it's because you're smart at stuff it's [TS]

00:24:22 ◼   ► because you test well on that one kind [TS]

00:24:24 ◼   ► of test now who knows there could be a [TS]

00:24:27 ◼   ► dozen other things that indicate [TS]

00:24:30 ◼   ► to a seventy eighty percent how will how [TS]

00:24:33 ◼   ► well you will or won't do in college but [TS]

00:24:35 ◼   ► that's that the blunt instrument we've [TS]

00:24:37 ◼   ► got and so this is usually important [TS]

00:24:39 ◼   ► decision about like whether we're going [TS]

00:24:40 ◼   ► to allow you into our colleges based [TS]

00:24:42 ◼   ► heavily on how well you did on this test [TS]

00:24:43 ◼   ► and it's not even it's not exactly how [TS]

00:24:45 ◼   ► well you did on the test that matters [TS]

00:24:46 ◼   ► it's that that correlation is what [TS]

00:24:48 ◼   ► matters [TS]

00:24:48 ◼   ► there's part of me that wonders like as [TS]

00:24:50 ◼   ► we blunder ignorantly through life not [TS]

00:24:53 ◼   ► knowing what causes what order for [TS]

00:24:54 ◼   ► eventually get to this minority report [TS]

00:24:56 ◼   ► like point where we can retroactively we [TS]

00:24:59 ◼   ► go back and look at Big Data to go like [TS]

00:25:01 ◼   ► oh here's big patterns like people who [TS]

00:25:03 ◼   ► did well in politics and we're honest [TS]

00:25:05 ◼   ► tended to show these patterns at [TS]

00:25:07 ◼   ► different points in life is so that's [TS]

00:25:09 ◼   ► that's what the interesting thing about [TS]

00:25:11 ◼   ► the SATA and the college is that all [TS]

00:25:15 ◼   ► makes sense up to a point right here we [TS]

00:25:17 ◼   ► have a college we want people to come [TS]

00:25:19 ◼   ► here who are going to do well on it and [TS]

00:25:21 ◼   ► this test measures what we you know this [TS]

00:25:23 ◼   ► test tends to measure skills that you [TS]

00:25:27 ◼   ► will need to do well in school and let [TS]

00:25:29 ◼   ► me drop the other shoe just to say state [TS]

00:25:30 ◼   ► the obvious the thing that we can't know [TS]

00:25:32 ◼   ► because you can't prove a negative is we [TS]

00:25:34 ◼   ► can't know the number of people who [TS]

00:25:35 ◼   ► never even took the SATA let alone [TS]

00:25:37 ◼   ► didn't do well on it we have no way to [TS]

00:25:39 ◼   ► know those could be the greatest student [TS]

00:25:41 ◼   ► we've ever gotten but the model we have [TS]

00:25:42 ◼   ► doesn't fit that kind of scattershot [TS]

00:25:44 ◼   ► approach there's no test out there [TS]

00:25:46 ◼   ► there's no means out there for going [TS]

00:25:47 ◼   ► unless you're gonna put a lot of wet [TS]

00:25:49 ◼   ► layer on it there's no way to really [TS]

00:25:50 ◼   ► know like who's this kid in the inner [TS]

00:25:52 ◼   ► city that might be the greatest student [TS]

00:25:53 ◼   ► we've ever got [TS]

00:25:54 ◼   ► well it depends what we call a great [TS]

00:25:55 ◼   ► student who's deciding who's allowed in [TS]

00:25:57 ◼   ► here and you know what we lose money as [TS]

00:25:59 ◼   ► an institution if we get people in here [TS]

00:26:00 ◼   ► who drop out like that is a bad pattern [TS]

00:26:02 ◼   ► it looks bad on the books and so we have [TS]

00:26:04 ◼   ► to stick with this conservative approach [TS]

00:26:06 ◼   ► that's all I want to say was yeah we [TS]

00:26:07 ◼   ► don't we don't know that's a very very [TS]

00:26:09 ◼   ► blunt instrument the the though I guess [TS]

00:26:12 ◼   ► the worser thing about it is that the [TS]

00:26:18 ◼   ► next thing I mean the extension of that [TS]

00:26:21 ◼   ► thinking is that if you do well in [TS]

00:26:22 ◼   ► college you are we will be valuable to [TS]

00:26:24 ◼   ► society like it because it has a height [TS]

00:26:28 ◼   ► there's a higher correlation for that [TS]

00:26:30 ◼   ► but that's that is the thing that's [TS]

00:26:31 ◼   ► unmeasurable like right you know if [TS]

00:26:34 ◼   ► you're if you if you're talking about [TS]

00:26:36 ◼   ► the University of Pennsylvania and [TS]

00:26:38 ◼   ► you're talking about here's what the [TS]

00:26:39 ◼   ► university of pennsylvania teaches [TS]

00:26:40 ◼   ► here's how this it's socially structured [TS]

00:26:42 ◼   ► here's where it's located [TS]

00:26:44 ◼   ► did here's you know here are the [TS]

00:26:46 ◼   ► parameters of the University of [TS]

00:26:48 ◼   ► Pennsylvania and what it's capable of [TS]

00:26:49 ◼   ► and then you say the s80 perfectly [TS]

00:26:53 ◼   ► measures who is going to do well at the [TS]

00:26:56 ◼   ► University of Pennsylvania you mean I [TS]

00:26:58 ◼   ► and it says oh it excludes all these [TS]

00:27:01 ◼   ► people that are from different cultural [TS]

00:27:03 ◼   ► backgrounds and excludes all these [TS]

00:27:04 ◼   ► people that have that have a face [TS]

00:27:08 ◼   ► recognition skills but don't you know [TS]

00:27:10 ◼   ► the better aren't good at math or [TS]

00:27:12 ◼   ► whatever like it maybe they do very well [TS]

00:27:14 ◼   ► at the Wharton School of Business [TS]

00:27:15 ◼   ► without taking into account that their [TS]

00:27:17 ◼   ► father will be learning the million [TS]

00:27:18 ◼   ► dollars in the near future that allows [TS]

00:27:20 ◼   ► them to create their empire just as a [TS]

00:27:22 ◼   ► random examples around moving is hard to [TS]

00:27:24 ◼   ► count for this thing's yeah but what but [TS]

00:27:27 ◼   ► the the massive fallacy is to presume [TS]

00:27:30 ◼   ► that our that the college's then became [TS]

00:27:33 ◼   ► the exclusive path to having a a like a [TS]

00:27:39 ◼   ► supervisory role in our culture right [TS]

00:27:42 ◼   ► you can you can work [TS]

00:27:44 ◼   ► you always were able supposedly to work [TS]

00:27:46 ◼   ► your way up from the mailroom but what [TS]

00:27:48 ◼   ► what we got the we put College in this [TS]

00:27:52 ◼   ► middle place that we're its job was to [TS]

00:27:54 ◼   ► filter out people who weren't going to [TS]

00:27:56 ◼   ► be supervisors who were who didn't have [TS]

00:27:59 ◼   ► the metal or the the the cognitive skill [TS]

00:28:06 ◼   ► to be a leader [TS]

00:28:08 ◼   ► it's like officer candidate school and [TS]

00:28:11 ◼   ► we net we've never thought about that [TS]

00:28:14 ◼   ► again right i mean colleges do not [TS]

00:28:16 ◼   ► actually do a very good job of finding [TS]

00:28:18 ◼   ► leaders and it colleges promote people i [TS]

00:28:23 ◼   ► mean being good in college does not make [TS]

00:28:25 ◼   ► you a leader and there's no and [TS]

00:28:28 ◼   ► statistically now all we have is well [TS]

00:28:30 ◼   ► did people who go to college [TS]

00:28:31 ◼   ► did they become leaders well yeah [TS]

00:28:33 ◼   ► because they're rich and because they [TS]

00:28:35 ◼   ► because it's self-reinforcing and all [TS]

00:28:38 ◼   ► that you know like all the all the [TS]

00:28:40 ◼   ► insanity around the idea that we would [TS]

00:28:43 ◼   ► have that we would we would impose a [TS]

00:28:47 ◼   ► system and then never really try to [TS]

00:28:51 ◼   ► validate its findings by any means other [TS]

00:28:54 ◼   ► than by using its own language [TS]

00:28:57 ◼   ► no like that and I felt this my whole [TS]

00:29:01 ◼   ► life write the sum of the smartest [TS]

00:29:02 ◼   ► people i knew when i was 15 the the kids [TS]

00:29:07 ◼   ► that were really really burning hot at [TS]

00:29:09 ◼   ► 15 years old who were rebelling against [TS]

00:29:12 ◼   ► their parents already who were in [TS]

00:29:14 ◼   ► trouble with the school who and they [TS]

00:29:17 ◼   ► were kids right so they were they were [TS]

00:29:18 ◼   ► ding-a-lings they thought that that they [TS]

00:29:21 ◼   ► were going to be part of a revolution of [TS]

00:29:24 ◼   ► some kind or you know etcetera etcetera [TS]

00:29:26 ◼   ► but like the kurt cobain's let's call [TS]

00:29:28 ◼   ► just the though the outsiders [TS]

00:29:31 ◼   ► mmm at 15 years old some of the [TS]

00:29:34 ◼   ► fifteen-year-old outsiders were just [TS]

00:29:38 ◼   ► fucking smartish the smartest kids and [TS]

00:29:43 ◼   ► the the quote-unquote smart kids at [TS]

00:29:45 ◼   ► school really looked down their noses at [TS]

00:29:47 ◼   ► them and were threatened by them [TS]

00:29:49 ◼   ► everybody was threatened by them but the [TS]

00:29:51 ◼   ► whole system all the parents all the [TS]

00:29:53 ◼   ► teachers all that the school everything [TS]

00:29:55 ◼   ► were really targeting those kids to like [TS]

00:30:00 ◼   ► get him out of here [TS]

00:30:01 ◼   ► basically you know not even trying to [TS]

00:30:03 ◼   ► reform i'm not talking about the you [TS]

00:30:06 ◼   ► know the schools do a pretty good job of [TS]

00:30:07 ◼   ► like oh this kid is not excelling we're [TS]

00:30:11 ◼   ► going to put them in special class and [TS]

00:30:12 ◼   ► we're going to try and get him through [TS]

00:30:14 ◼   ► this process you know it's important to [TS]

00:30:16 ◼   ► the schools to like help people that are [TS]

00:30:19 ◼   ► struggling to get them through but that [TS]

00:30:22 ◼   ► small group of people a small group of [TS]

00:30:25 ◼   ► teenagers who are like from a very early [TS]

00:30:27 ◼   ► age 13 years old already may be [TS]

00:30:30 ◼   ► struggling with drugs already insecure [TS]

00:30:34 ◼   ► home life very very insecure home life [TS]

00:30:37 ◼   ► who are coming to school full of of [TS]

00:30:40 ◼   ► anxiety and aggression who are just like [TS]

00:30:43 ◼   ► just get stuff like if your parents find [TS]

00:30:45 ◼   ► a lot maybe you don't sleep very well [TS]

00:30:46 ◼   ► right or nerds fight a lot maybe that's [TS]

00:30:48 ◼   ► how you think problems get solved right [TS]

00:30:50 ◼   ► right uh and but they're like they're [TS]

00:30:52 ◼   ► hurting but there also is very smart and [TS]

00:30:54 ◼   ► sensitive like I just got a facebook [TS]

00:30:56 ◼   ► message from a friend of mine that he [TS]

00:30:59 ◼   ► was the first person I ever knew that [TS]

00:31:00 ◼   ► had a tattoo when he was 16 years old he [TS]

00:31:03 ◼   ► had a tattoo smiling skull smoking a [TS]

00:31:07 ◼   ► joint not a problem physiologically with [TS]

00:31:09 ◼   ► that [TS]

00:31:10 ◼   ► yeah my family all three how wait a [TS]

00:31:13 ◼   ► minute you're all island and the the [TS]

00:31:17 ◼   ► skulls tattoo on the inside of his left [TS]

00:31:18 ◼   ► arm and it was I mean this is before [TS]

00:31:22 ◼   ► this was back when the only people that [TS]

00:31:24 ◼   ► had tattoos were in the Navy and I was [TS]

00:31:26 ◼   ► like what did you do it yourself and [TS]

00:31:29 ◼   ► he's like what do you mean I got this [TS]

00:31:31 ◼   ► tattoo is like this is me man and he was [TS]

00:31:34 ◼   ► be that that was back in the days when a [TS]

00:31:36 ◼   ► punk rocker could get a tattoo of a [TS]

00:31:38 ◼   ► skull smoking a joint and there wasn't [TS]

00:31:41 ◼   ► any confusion about whether or not he [TS]

00:31:42 ◼   ► was a hippie don't mean like now he's [TS]

00:31:45 ◼   ► not a hippie he had a freaking tattoo [TS]

00:31:47 ◼   ► hippies didn't start getting tattoo [TS]

00:31:48 ◼   ► still later and he was like such a he [TS]

00:31:52 ◼   ► was so he lived in a trailer park his [TS]

00:31:56 ◼   ► parents were on drugs he was so [TS]

00:31:59 ◼   ► sensitive and such a delightful delicate [TS]

00:32:01 ◼   ► person and I watched life just hammer [TS]

00:32:05 ◼   ► him and after high school life continued [TS]

00:32:10 ◼   ► to hammer him and I got a message from [TS]

00:32:12 ◼   ► the other day still alive a lot of our [TS]

00:32:14 ◼   ► mutual friends that were closer to him [TS]

00:32:16 ◼   ► than me or are all dead that it was like [TS]

00:32:19 ◼   ► a it was they just died from from drugs [TS]

00:32:25 ◼   ► and from being too sensitive frankly he [TS]

00:32:29 ◼   ► didn't somehow he survived and I heard [TS]

00:32:33 ◼   ► from my hand for many years and every [TS]

00:32:35 ◼   ► time I every time I interacted with him [TS]

00:32:37 ◼   ► after high school I always had the same [TS]

00:32:39 ◼   ► feeling he was one of the smartest ones [TS]

00:32:42 ◼   ► of all of us and he was shit on [TS]

00:32:45 ◼   ► constantly he took it with good grace [TS]

00:32:48 ◼   ► you know he was just like.he he handled [TS]

00:32:53 ◼   ► it pretty well considering [TS]

00:32:54 ◼   ► and he made a life for himself but but [TS]

00:32:59 ◼   ► he was brutalized and I like I go on I'm [TS]

00:33:03 ◼   ► like talking to him on facebook and look [TS]

00:33:04 ◼   ► at his profile and he's an old man now [TS]

00:33:06 ◼   ► he's like a little man [TS]

00:33:08 ◼   ► and I think you know the aptitudes that [TS]

00:33:13 ◼   ► he had the artistic ability and the you [TS]

00:33:16 ◼   ► know the set the sensitivity right he [TS]

00:33:18 ◼   ► was meant for something he was meant to [TS]

00:33:19 ◼   ► do something it if we had an ability to [TS]

00:33:22 ◼   ► test for if we have truly had an ability [TS]

00:33:25 ◼   ► to test for aptitude we would have [TS]

00:33:28 ◼   ► culturally right at 15 years old [TS]

00:33:32 ◼   ► pull this kid out of school and said oh [TS]

00:33:34 ◼   ► my god hello like here is your hear [TS]

00:33:38 ◼   ► let's just let's we don't need this [TS]

00:33:39 ◼   ► anymore you know like high school isn't [TS]

00:33:41 ◼   ► where where you need to be you need to [TS]

00:33:43 ◼   ► be over here and we're gonna put you in [TS]

00:33:44 ◼   ► this special place and you're into these [TS]

00:33:46 ◼   ► special things and you know I i [TS]

00:33:49 ◼   ► obviously right we all kind of feel like [TS]

00:33:51 ◼   ► we wish something like that happened to [TS]

00:33:53 ◼   ► us or at least i have spent a lot of my [TS]

00:33:55 ◼   ► life wishing that somebody had grabbed [TS]

00:33:57 ◼   ► me by the hand but it was also but it's [TS]

00:33:59 ◼   ► also like in in my remember like senior [TS]

00:34:03 ◼   ► year remember my Americanism vs [TS]

00:34:05 ◼   ► communism class i'm looking for years at [TS]

00:34:07 ◼   ► this is what happens in the Soviet Union [TS]

00:34:09 ◼   ► like waiting with the age of whatever [TS]

00:34:11 ◼   ► the whatever arbitrary number they made [TS]

00:34:12 ◼   ► up but the age of 10 they give you a [TS]

00:34:14 ◼   ► test and if you don't do well nothing [TS]

00:34:15 ◼   ► you become machinist and there's a track [TS]

00:34:17 ◼   ► and once you're on that track you can [TS]

00:34:18 ◼   ► never go back to like America or anybody [TS]

00:34:20 ◼   ► can be the president right and that's [TS]

00:34:21 ◼   ► the thing we always say about japan [TS]

00:34:23 ◼   ► right if you don't you don't pass the [TS]

00:34:25 ◼   ► the preschool admission test then you're [TS]

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00:37:00 ◼   ► don't need to say that the programming [TS]

00:37:02 ◼   ► jobs are hard to kill [TS]

00:37:03 ◼   ► now but yeah that's that's the that's [TS]

00:37:05 ◼   ► what i was saying before right like the [TS]

00:37:07 ◼   ► American premise is that that you should [TS]

00:37:14 ◼   ► be able to be a police officer even if [TS]

00:37:15 ◼   ► you have face blindness right the [TS]

00:37:17 ◼   ► American premise is that you should be [TS]

00:37:21 ◼   ► able to you know youyou muscle your way [TS]

00:37:25 ◼   ► in or use your ingenuity or your [TS]

00:37:29 ◼   ► for your guile to have any job you want [TS]

00:37:34 ◼   ► and there shouldn't be any limitations [TS]

00:37:36 ◼   ► and it is a very it's a very slippery [TS]

00:37:38 ◼   ► slope i think in a lot of our minds to [TS]

00:37:40 ◼   ► going from something very logical like [TS]

00:37:43 ◼   ► police detective should be super [TS]

00:37:47 ◼   ► recognizers to all of a sudden feeling [TS]

00:37:51 ◼   ► very uncomfortable about the fact that [TS]

00:37:55 ◼   ► there's predestination and yeah I and [TS]

00:38:01 ◼   ► we're altering people too hard and all [TS]

00:38:03 ◼   ► of a sudden you know you gotta get [TS]

00:38:04 ◼   ► through all these filters and then were [TS]

00:38:05 ◼   ► gattaca but it's also just to [TS]

00:38:09 ◼   ► problematize it a little bit it's the [TS]

00:38:12 ◼   ► things we talked about some of these [TS]

00:38:14 ◼   ► super recognizer recognized for what [TS]

00:38:15 ◼   ► they super recognizing act and it's it's [TS]

00:38:18 ◼   ► it just depends on what level the level [TS]

00:38:20 ◼   ► at which you want to try to solve the [TS]

00:38:22 ◼   ► problem that we call what disability [TS]

00:38:24 ◼   ► crime whatever you want to call it the [TS]

00:38:26 ◼   ► trouble is by the time you get down to [TS]

00:38:27 ◼   ► the level of Super recognizing all have [TS]

00:38:29 ◼   ► we vetted all the people whose faces are [TS]

00:38:31 ◼   ► being recognized I guess we're assuming [TS]

00:38:32 ◼   ► in this case that those are all [TS]

00:38:33 ◼   ► batteries right that have to to go down [TS]

00:38:37 ◼   ► I guess it's just interesting to think [TS]

00:38:38 ◼   ► about like in that case that's a very [TS]

00:38:40 ◼   ► interesting technical hack that really [TS]

00:38:43 ◼   ► sounds like it would work but it does [TS]

00:38:45 ◼   ► assume that the policing is being done [TS]

00:38:48 ◼   ► well fairly and justly and those are [TS]

00:38:49 ◼   ► bodies that need to be cut so they don't [TS]

00:38:51 ◼   ► blow up the the ferris wheel or whatever [TS]

00:38:53 ◼   ► I mean I think you're talking about that [TS]

00:38:55 ◼   ► the job of super recognizer is not those [TS]

00:38:58 ◼   ► aren't the prosecutors right there just [TS]

00:38:59 ◼   ► the tool it is a lot like minority [TS]

00:39:01 ◼   ► report in some ways I haven't seen that [TS]

00:39:04 ◼   ► is that the one where the the cars all [TS]

00:39:06 ◼   ► go up and down the walls like like [TS]

00:39:08 ◼   ► roaches that might be fifth element but [TS]

00:39:12 ◼   ► said minority report that the notion is [TS]

00:39:14 ◼   ► that there are these ghosts they can see [TS]

00:39:17 ◼   ► a little bit into the fuses mythological [TS]

00:39:19 ◼   ► characters these three sisters who like [TS]

00:39:22 ◼   ► lands pool water something something [TS]

00:39:23 ◼   ► magical science but basically they are [TS]

00:39:25 ◼   ► able they are often able to detect when [TS]

00:39:30 ◼   ► a crime is about to happen which you [TS]

00:39:31 ◼   ► know to begin with is a pretty great [TS]

00:39:32 ◼   ► idea for sci-fi story but then there's a [TS]

00:39:34 ◼   ► lot of interest in the next part to me [TS]

00:39:37 ◼   ► is in the implementation and evaluation [TS]

00:39:39 ◼   ► decorators yeah [TS]

00:39:40 ◼   ► and how the little wooden ball rolls out [TS]

00:39:43 ◼   ► and that there's this entirely [TS]

00:39:44 ◼   ► chain-of-custody to it and it's all done [TS]

00:39:46 ◼   ► part of what makes the I never read the [TS]

00:39:47 ◼   ► book or the story but but it's it is [TS]

00:39:51 ◼   ► very interesting and then in the course [TS]

00:39:52 ◼   ► you know that there's there has to be a [TS]

00:39:54 ◼   ► story which is like you actually really [TS]

00:39:55 ◼   ► trust the system do we know this but I [TS]

00:39:58 ◼   ► don't know I don't know I mean yeah I [TS]

00:40:00 ◼   ► mean it's I i think that like all like [TS]

00:40:03 ◼   ► all solutions technological solutions [TS]

00:40:05 ◼   ► and this does feel like a thought [TS]

00:40:07 ◼   ► technology huh [TS]

00:40:08 ◼   ► and so it is a technological solution [TS]

00:40:10 ◼   ► and it will it would invent it [TS]

00:40:12 ◼   ► invariably develop other problems right [TS]

00:40:15 ◼   ► but at what the problem that we get this [TS]

00:40:17 ◼   ► would be trying to solve is the problem [TS]

00:40:19 ◼   ► of false recognition and the problem i [TS]

00:40:23 ◼   ► think i think the the the the main [TS]

00:40:27 ◼   ► selling point of it is that it would be [TS]

00:40:29 ◼   ► addressing this perception that we have [TS]

00:40:31 ◼   ► that we're all being surveilled all the [TS]

00:40:33 ◼   ► time but like their cameras everywhere [TS]

00:40:36 ◼   ► but right get your if you get held up in [TS]

00:40:39 ◼   ► front of a convenience store and there [TS]

00:40:41 ◼   ► are five cameras pointed at you and you [TS]

00:40:43 ◼   ► say the guy [TS]

00:40:44 ◼   ► help me up right here and they're all [TS]

00:40:46 ◼   ► this all this footage of it nine times [TS]

00:40:49 ◼   ► out of ten i think the cops are like [TS]

00:40:50 ◼   ► well you know it's a minor crime and we [TS]

00:40:52 ◼   ► don't have the resources to devote to a [TS]

00:40:56 ◼   ► you know looking at every CCTV mean it [TS]

00:41:00 ◼   ► was it was like when I got robbed last [TS]

00:41:02 ◼   ► year and they found that you know the [TS]

00:41:04 ◼   ► neighboring Police Department found my [TS]

00:41:06 ◼   ► stuff the next morning but they didn't [TS]

00:41:09 ◼   ► have that's a terrific example that's a [TS]

00:41:12 ◼   ► no rate example they didn't have the [TS]

00:41:14 ◼   ► even the smock the small ability to to [TS]

00:41:20 ◼   ► cross-reference well in this zip code a [TS]

00:41:25 ◼   ► guy lost a tennis racket in that zip [TS]

00:41:27 ◼   ► code we found a tennis racket [TS]

00:41:29 ◼   ► what should we do well let's sell that [TS]

00:41:31 ◼   ► tennis racket at an auction and will [TS]

00:41:35 ◼   ► apologize profusely to the other guy [TS]

00:41:38 ◼   ► it's just like come on you know so so [TS]

00:41:41 ◼   ► yeah it's it it's trying to solve [TS]

00:41:43 ◼   ► certain problems in policing with this [TS]

00:41:46 ◼   ► new super super cops super Bobby's [TS]

00:41:51 ◼   ► but yeah it would if it doesn't solve [TS]

00:41:54 ◼   ► the problem of like well why did that [TS]

00:41:57 ◼   ► could take the take the wallet but you [TS]

00:42:03 ◼   ► wonder i mean and i think this is that [TS]

00:42:06 ◼   ► this is this is a little bit star trekky [TS]

00:42:09 ◼   ► now but like one of my big complaints [TS]

00:42:13 ◼   ► about next generation and boy you should [TS]

00:42:15 ◼   ► see the file of complaints about next [TS]

00:42:17 ◼   ► generation i have i'm intrigued I've [TS]

00:42:19 ◼   ► just started watching that program but [TS]

00:42:22 ◼   ► one of my complaints is that the [TS]

00:42:24 ◼   ► lighting what lines not very good [TS]

00:42:28 ◼   ► no it's not the lighting it is that [TS]

00:42:30 ◼   ► Ryker is very annoying to me i can like [TS]

00:42:33 ◼   ► record well it's because Riker sort of [TS]

00:42:36 ◼   ► resembles me [TS]

00:42:37 ◼   ► oh sure and I don't like it yeah I don't [TS]

00:42:40 ◼   ► get that it's uncanny valley people are [TS]

00:42:43 ◼   ► like Oh Riker and I'm like no no no that [TS]

00:42:46 ◼   ► is not the that record no I'm Riker [TS]

00:42:49 ◼   ► that's not record but no my problem is [TS]

00:42:53 ◼   ► that the idea of the premise of [TS]

00:42:55 ◼   ► commander Troi is never really fully [TS]

00:42:59 ◼   ► explored right here you see the empath [TS]

00:43:02 ◼   ► yeah okay here's Troy she's an officer [TS]

00:43:05 ◼   ► and she's and she's in this position [TS]

00:43:09 ◼   ► because she has a superpower right now [TS]

00:43:12 ◼   ► it's never suggested that Captain Picard [TS]

00:43:18 ◼   ► or that Ryker are in their command jobs [TS]

00:43:22 ◼   ► because they have super powers right [TS]

00:43:26 ◼   ► there's no you never get us [TS]

00:43:27 ◼   ► I mean they did well in command school [TS]

00:43:29 ◼   ► wrangle wil Wheaton's character is [TS]

00:43:32 ◼   ► precocious but yet but I'm sure that his [TS]

00:43:36 ◼   ► father pulled some strings but here's [TS]

00:43:39 ◼   ► Troy and she has this like this [TS]

00:43:42 ◼   ► basically the psionic power [TS]

00:43:45 ◼   ► she's she's a pro mutants right she's [TS]

00:43:49 ◼   ► sort of almost x many but she's only [TS]

00:43:54 ◼   ► used in that show to like as as like a [TS]

00:43:58 ◼   ► glorified school psychologist right she [TS]

00:44:02 ◼   ► sits down people she's like hi [TS]

00:44:03 ◼   ► feeling that she has like space rap [TS]

00:44:05 ◼   ► sessions yeah like is everything good [TS]

00:44:07 ◼   ► right now I can sense that your feelings [TS]

00:44:09 ◼   ► in a stressed or whatever energy like [TS]

00:44:11 ◼   ► that [TS]

00:44:12 ◼   ► what no like I it's absolutely right [TS]

00:44:16 ◼   ► that there should be empaths and we know [TS]

00:44:21 ◼   ► who they are in our own lives right who [TS]

00:44:24 ◼   ► are who your most empathetic friend you [TS]

00:44:25 ◼   ► know the people that have that ability [TS]

00:44:28 ◼   ► and a lot of the time and i would say [TS]

00:44:32 ◼   ► the majority of the time they are not [TS]

00:44:34 ◼   ► people who actually become psychologists [TS]

00:44:36 ◼   ► you know what I mean people the people [TS]

00:44:40 ◼   ► who are best of politics do not become [TS]

00:44:42 ◼   ► politicians that mean they do but [TS]

00:44:44 ◼   ► they're boy they really shouldn't be [TS]

00:44:45 ◼   ► there [TS]

00:44:46 ◼   ► well right and the people to be in my [TS]

00:44:48 ◼   ► experience that you guys that's the [TS]

00:44:49 ◼   ► psychology and political science is [TS]

00:44:51 ◼   ► where all the Nets go [TS]

00:44:52 ◼   ► yeah yeah I mean there's a lot of cooks [TS]

00:44:55 ◼   ► that become psychologists because they [TS]

00:44:57 ◼   ► want you know they want to be that [TS]

00:44:59 ◼   ► person they that they have this [TS]

00:45:00 ◼   ► tremendous desire to be the intermediary [TS]

00:45:02 ◼   ► they have a i think a lot of them start [TS]

00:45:05 ◼   ► out i think a lot of the reason people [TS]

00:45:06 ◼   ► sign up for classes freshman year was [TS]

00:45:08 ◼   ► like I know I'm a bobsleigh mess i need [TS]

00:45:10 ◼   ► to figure this out [TS]

00:45:11 ◼   ► yeah and in the end up becoming a [TS]

00:45:12 ◼   ► practitioner and anna and at like [TS]

00:45:16 ◼   ► running for office i really do think [TS]

00:45:17 ◼   ► that it is that that the perceived job [TS]

00:45:22 ◼   ► of a psychologist to a freshman [TS]

00:45:26 ◼   ► let's say is oh I get to sit in a [TS]

00:45:29 ◼   ► position of authority people come in and [TS]

00:45:32 ◼   ► they tell me their problems and I solve [TS]

00:45:33 ◼   ► them [TS]

00:45:34 ◼   ► now that's not what being a psychologist [TS]

00:45:37 ◼   ► is her or grocery checkout clerk right [TS]

00:45:40 ◼   ► it's a that's like that's i mean if you [TS]

00:45:43 ◼   ► want that kind of authority over people [TS]

00:45:44 ◼   ► you should join the army but those are [TS]

00:45:48 ◼   ► but the people that gravitate toward [TS]

00:45:50 ◼   ► that job or like make that initial error [TS]

00:45:53 ◼   ► and the people who are sitting and [TS]

00:45:55 ◼   ► saying like oh my friend is having a [TS]

00:45:57 ◼   ► really bad day I came I can't you know I [TS]

00:45:59 ◼   ► just can't go to work today I have to [TS]

00:46:00 ◼   ► stay with my friend because she's really [TS]

00:46:02 ◼   ► having a hard time it's like while [TS]

00:46:04 ◼   ► you're taking a day off work because [TS]

00:46:06 ◼   ► your friends having a bad day that's [TS]

00:46:08 ◼   ► amazing like that is a that is a talents [TS]

00:46:12 ◼   ► or a you know that's a mutant ability [TS]

00:46:16 ◼   ► but so next generation I kept waiting [TS]

00:46:19 ◼   ► for the storylines to I was competing [TS]

00:46:23 ◼   ► for the Troy storylines 22 hey you know [TS]

00:46:26 ◼   ► to like be really really crucial in the [TS]

00:46:30 ◼   ► sense that she does have this special [TS]

00:46:33 ◼   ► knowledge and special ability [TS]

00:46:35 ◼   ► that's so much greater than just and i'm [TS]

00:46:38 ◼   ► not saying she had I don't know who the [TS]

00:46:40 ◼   ► writers of that show how they intended [TS]

00:46:42 ◼   ► her to be but the whole premise that at [TS]

00:46:45 ◼   ► that point in the future we would [TS]

00:46:48 ◼   ► culturally recognize the importance of [TS]

00:46:50 ◼   ► empaths and put them into an officer's [TS]

00:46:53 ◼   ► job on a spacecraft it would suggest [TS]

00:46:58 ◼   ► that the culture at the time understood [TS]

00:47:00 ◼   ► impacts to be more meaningful than the [TS]

00:47:04 ◼   ► than the writing of the show suggested [TS]

00:47:05 ◼   ► right yeah I get it [TS]

00:47:07 ◼   ► it'sit's you know they put her in the [TS]

00:47:09 ◼   ► job of like that the others your it's [TS]

00:47:12 ◼   ► like dash it sounds like you're also [TS]

00:47:14 ◼   ► saying that the just narratively the [TS]

00:47:17 ◼   ► juiciness of somebody like the the plot [TS]

00:47:19 ◼   ► juiciness of somebody with that kind of [TS]

00:47:21 ◼   ► ability wasn't fully utilized in the [TS]

00:47:23 ◼   ► story is that right yes right right i [TS]

00:47:26 ◼   ► mean in the i'm talking about just [TS]

00:47:28 ◼   ► generally the next generation cosmology [TS]

00:47:30 ◼   ► huh i will if you're going to if you're [TS]

00:47:32 ◼   ► going to make the leap to say yes we [TS]

00:47:34 ◼   ► have sentient robots children and [TS]

00:47:39 ◼   ► empaths all having made it through [TS]

00:47:41 ◼   ► officer candidate school and on the [TS]

00:47:43 ◼   ► bridge of a spacecraft let's really [TS]

00:47:47 ◼   ► explore why they're there and not just [TS]

00:47:50 ◼   ► have them be you know like every once in [TS]

00:47:53 ◼   ► a while they get their own episode for [TS]

00:47:55 ◼   ► instance it wil wheaton if wil wheaton [TS]

00:47:57 ◼   ► is a teenager who is what was his job [TS]

00:48:01 ◼   ► like a pilot or something of the [TS]

00:48:03 ◼   ► spaceship [TS]

00:48:04 ◼   ► I don't know what was he precocious that [TS]

00:48:06 ◼   ► well that's a don't know he could he is [TS]

00:48:09 ◼   ► really smart you know where there was a [TS]

00:48:11 ◼   ► dead body of the retrial sure what but [TS]

00:48:14 ◼   ► uh what happens when you figure that out [TS]

00:48:17 ◼   ► I never saw that movie got to get moving [TS]

00:48:19 ◼   ► now it seems like it was for kids you [TS]

00:48:21 ◼   ► should watch stranger things on Netflix [TS]

00:48:22 ◼   ► don't have not [TS]

00:48:24 ◼   ► Alex of TV him um yeah uh I I kept [TS]

00:48:28 ◼   ► waiting on next-generation as they're [TS]

00:48:30 ◼   ► walking down the halls like short and [TS]

00:48:33 ◼   ► then they're walking down the halls [TS]

00:48:34 ◼   ► their kind of doing a West Wing except [TS]

00:48:35 ◼   ► on the spacecraft now I kept waiting for [TS]

00:48:37 ◼   ► other crew members to be teenagers they [TS]

00:48:40 ◼   ► caught talking track talking track but [TS]

00:48:43 ◼   ► like how come there were no like will is [TS]

00:48:45 ◼   ► not only he's not only this market he's [TS]

00:48:48 ◼   ► the only smart kid that ever got into [TS]

00:48:50 ◼   ► the air force that seems pretty weird if [TS]

00:48:52 ◼   ► you're living in a world where a really [TS]

00:48:54 ◼   ► smart kid could could get that far [TS]

00:48:56 ◼   ► yeah why would there be why would they [TS]

00:48:58 ◼   ► be like this market was it that wasn't i [TS]

00:49:00 ◼   ► don't know i see that you're not very [TS]

00:49:02 ◼   ► interested in my star trek know Mom a [TS]

00:49:04 ◼   ► little interested i also know that [TS]

00:49:06 ◼   ► mentioning anything about this is going [TS]

00:49:08 ◼   ► to get you so much feedback about what [TS]

00:49:09 ◼   ► you got wrong that i wish i could save [TS]

00:49:10 ◼   ► you from yourself all you talk about it [TS]

00:49:12 ◼   ► for Star Trek no effort Starchild ok [TS]

00:49:14 ◼   ► let's look at let's get away from Star [TS]

00:49:15 ◼   ► Trek them because you know our good [TS]

00:49:17 ◼   ► friends madam frantic and Ben Harrison [TS]

00:49:19 ◼   ► yes have an award-winning podcast they [TS]

00:49:21 ◼   ► did they were phony nominated for that I [TS]

00:49:22 ◼   ► think yeah that's right phony nominated [TS]

00:49:24 ◼   ► podcast about a next-generation and it's [TS]

00:49:27 ◼   ► such a it's so embarrassing i'm so [TS]

00:49:30 ◼   ► embarrassed for them that it's popular [TS]

00:49:32 ◼   ► um I i can't speak for my friends coming [TS]

00:49:37 ◼   ► LT but my friends coming LT does a show [TS]

00:49:39 ◼   ► called random track and I think he [TS]

00:49:41 ◼   ► should really be on it i think people [TS]

00:49:42 ◼   ► have mentioned this to you on the [TS]

00:49:44 ◼   ► internet before but i really wish you [TS]

00:49:45 ◼   ► would be on Scott show okay and so [TS]

00:49:47 ◼   ► basically happens is a big wheel spins [TS]

00:49:49 ◼   ► and a random episode of Star Trek is [TS]

00:49:51 ◼   ► picked and then someone talks about it [TS]

00:49:53 ◼   ► it could be somebody who's really into [TS]

00:49:54 ◼   ► Star Trek or could be me in one case i [TS]

00:49:56 ◼   ► was on an episode don't know anything [TS]

00:49:57 ◼   ► about normal fuck-all about Star Trek [TS]

00:49:58 ◼   ► but I think you would be if you be [TS]

00:50:00 ◼   ► willing to spin the wheel I think you [TS]

00:50:02 ◼   ► would be a nice asset for that program [TS]

00:50:04 ◼   ► really you know about me that I am [TS]

00:50:06 ◼   ► willing to spin the wheel my god or [TS]

00:50:09 ◼   ► anything true train [TS]

00:50:10 ◼   ► yeah let's let's just let's just spit [TS]

00:50:13 ◼   ► ball now he has a second who come up [TS]

00:50:16 ◼   ► with one superpower that you think is [TS]

00:50:20 ◼   ► present in sort of a a1 derivation of [TS]

00:50:25 ◼   ► mankind like it's like an undetected [TS]

00:50:28 ◼   ► superpower that you wish that we tested [TS]

00:50:30 ◼   ► for as a really good question and so [TS]

00:50:33 ◼   ► like just to so like something where [TS]

00:50:36 ◼   ► there's something that some people seem [TS]

00:50:40 ◼   ► capable of that feels uncanny maybe and [TS]

00:50:45 ◼   ► useful and you just don't have a simple [TS]

00:50:49 ◼   ► way of explaining why they are so much [TS]

00:50:52 ◼   ► better at a seemingly invisible talent [TS]

00:50:54 ◼   ► than other people right kind of em I [TS]

00:50:57 ◼   ► mean one of those this is not very funny [TS]

00:50:59 ◼   ► but one of those is good judgment like [TS]

00:51:01 ◼   ► some people seem to just and without [TS]

00:51:04 ◼   ► being like you know there is not [TS]

00:51:06 ◼   ► religious [TS]

00:51:07 ◼   ► it's not philosophical and ethical but [TS]

00:51:09 ◼   ► some people have a very like the same [TS]

00:51:11 ◼   ► way you talk about being able to see [TS]

00:51:12 ◼   ► kind of the tapestry of history like [TS]

00:51:14 ◼   ► Indiana Jones warehouse i think some [TS]

00:51:16 ◼   ► people have just a really built in sense [TS]

00:51:19 ◼   ► of like what the best thing to do right [TS]

00:51:21 ◼   ► now is yes that's a boring one but i [TS]

00:51:23 ◼   ► don't know but that's when I look at [TS]

00:51:25 ◼   ► people do you know what god you're so [TS]

00:51:26 ◼   ► right that makes so much sense there's [TS]

00:51:28 ◼   ► no risk associated with what you're [TS]

00:51:30 ◼   ► saying and huge potentially huge payoff [TS]

00:51:32 ◼   ► to interesting how do you miss your [TS]

00:51:34 ◼   ► whole life he's walking around knowing [TS]

00:51:35 ◼   ► what to do [TS]

00:51:36 ◼   ► yeah you do that well and that what's [TS]

00:51:38 ◼   ► crazy is in our culture we already have [TS]

00:51:40 ◼   ► a job called judge but the people that [TS]

00:51:44 ◼   ► get appointed to be judges have to go [TS]

00:51:47 ◼   ► through this whole elaborate ph.d [TS]

00:51:49 ◼   ► program and by the time you have been [TS]

00:51:52 ◼   ► filtered all the way to sitting up on [TS]

00:51:53 ◼   ► the bench and being a judge who knows [TS]

00:51:56 ◼   ► what skills you have and I mean that the [TS]

00:51:59 ◼   ► other part of this again i get so [TS]

00:52:01 ◼   ► cynical but the other part of that is [TS]

00:52:02 ◼   ► like it's back to the wire [TS]

00:52:04 ◼   ► I mean it's like you're part of a system [TS]

00:52:05 ◼   ► you are beholding to people to have that [TS]

00:52:08 ◼   ► job in some way no matter I mean [TS]

00:52:10 ◼   ► everybody who has a job like you always [TS]

00:52:12 ◼   ► say even Bono has a boss everybody has [TS]

00:52:15 ◼   ► somebody got to keep happy [TS]

00:52:16 ◼   ► there's no way you could be completely [TS]

00:52:19 ◼   ► neutral about something [TS]

00:52:21 ◼   ► well but that's what's so interesting [TS]

00:52:23 ◼   ► about the judge Wapner judge judy let's [TS]

00:52:26 ◼   ► say judge john hodgman where they found [TS]

00:52:30 ◼   ► you know in the case of Wapner and Judy [TS]

00:52:33 ◼   ► they found jurists selling a terrible [TS]

00:52:36 ◼   ► puppet show water and judy judy actually [TS]

00:52:39 ◼   ► made the first rotary engine i didn't [TS]

00:52:41 ◼   ► know that interesting the Watchers [TS]

00:52:42 ◼   ► opportunity there was named after the [TS]

00:52:44 ◼   ► sound admit fucking orgy reputable [TS]

00:52:46 ◼   ► but uh you know like I have always felt [TS]

00:52:49 ◼   ► again not that I have great judgment but [TS]

00:52:53 ◼   ► i have i have the the talent my dad had [TS]

00:52:56 ◼   ► with my mom used to say she would be she [TS]

00:52:58 ◼   ► was because she was his she ran his [TS]

00:53:00 ◼   ► office when he was in private practice [TS]

00:53:01 ◼   ► and she would say she would read the [TS]

00:53:03 ◼   ► brief of one side of this dispute and [TS]

00:53:06 ◼   ► she would say well they have an iron [TS]

00:53:07 ◼   ► iron tight case and then she'd read [TS]

00:53:10 ◼   ► she'd read the other one she liked my [TS]

00:53:12 ◼   ► cot they have an iron thank you know [TS]

00:53:14 ◼   ► there's absolutely no way you is gonna [TS]

00:53:16 ◼   ► be a stalemate an impasse there's no way [TS]

00:53:18 ◼   ► they're both of these there's no way to [TS]

00:53:19 ◼   ► decide who is right in this cuz they're [TS]

00:53:21 ◼   ► there's just no deciding yeah and then [TS]

00:53:24 ◼   ► my dad would waltz in incapable of [TS]

00:53:27 ◼   ► filing things alphabetically incapable [TS]

00:53:31 ◼   ► of working more than three hours a day [TS]

00:53:33 ◼   ► you know like incapable not only a [TS]

00:53:36 ◼   ► balancing a checkbook but of finding his [TS]

00:53:38 ◼   ► checkbook but my dad waltz in read both [TS]

00:53:41 ◼   ► things and say oh here's the solution to [TS]

00:53:43 ◼   ► pimp and it would be like what and both [TS]

00:53:46 ◼   ► parties would say I agree and they shake [TS]

00:53:48 ◼   ► hands and the problem was resolved and [TS]

00:53:52 ◼   ► my you know my mom still talks about it [TS]

00:53:53 ◼   ► having been divorced from him now for 50 [TS]

00:53:58 ◼   ► years or whatever 45 years she's like it [TS]

00:54:01 ◼   ► was the most of it was the most [TS]

00:54:02 ◼   ► incredible talent and he did it over and [TS]

00:54:05 ◼   ► over and I could never figure out I [TS]

00:54:06 ◼   ► would you know after having watched him [TS]

00:54:08 ◼   ► do it i would read these things and i [TS]

00:54:09 ◼   ► would try to apply his filter like retro [TS]

00:54:13 ◼   ► actively go reverse engineer his [TS]

00:54:14 ◼   ► decision [TS]

00:54:15 ◼   ► yeah we're just you know like now I I've [TS]

00:54:17 ◼   ► been doing this for a long time I know [TS]

00:54:19 ◼   ► him intimately well what is he gonna do [TS]

00:54:21 ◼   ► here [TS]

00:54:22 ◼   ► I cannot see what he's going to do even [TS]

00:54:23 ◼   ► though I know his process right now and [TS]

00:54:25 ◼   ► walk in and read both things and it's [TS]

00:54:27 ◼   ► not easy [TS]

00:54:27 ◼   ► he wasn't even aware of it being a [TS]

00:54:29 ◼   ► process is like old solutions plan alone [TS]

00:54:31 ◼   ► and there's so many things i'm someone [TS]

00:54:34 ◼   ► and again i'm not trying to be funny but [TS]

00:54:35 ◼   ► I think they're things as simple as [TS]

00:54:38 ◼   ► people who don't know if this comes out [TS]

00:54:40 ◼   ► the case or smell or what or a different [TS]

00:54:42 ◼   ► kind of judgment but people who are with [TS]

00:54:44 ◼   ► a very little training are just very [TS]

00:54:47 ◼   ► good cooks and no for example like just [TS]

00:54:49 ◼   ► what would be appropriate as an [TS]

00:54:51 ◼   ► ingredient as a dish as a component of a [TS]

00:54:54 ◼   ► larger meal that's something silly 1i [TS]

00:54:56 ◼   ► think that is kind of a special gift [TS]

00:54:58 ◼   ► another one [TS]

00:54:59 ◼   ► is that like I've seen this in some [TS]

00:55:00 ◼   ► friends where there are some people who [TS]

00:55:04 ◼   ► are who are unerringly kind and [TS]

00:55:08 ◼   ► thoughtful and know just the right thing [TS]

00:55:11 ◼   ► to do which again now to meet anybody [TS]

00:55:13 ◼   ► else to a normal person who just liked [TS]

00:55:15 ◼   ► by his palm our cars and sends them out [TS]

00:55:16 ◼   ► of the coma tada [TS]

00:55:17 ◼   ► but for me i look at that i go how do [TS]

00:55:19 ◼   ► you know just the right thing to say to [TS]

00:55:20 ◼   ► somebody when somebody in their family [TS]

00:55:21 ◼   ► died and not sound like a dick [TS]

00:55:23 ◼   ► how do you like you are on fucking [TS]

00:55:25 ◼   ► vacation in Honduras and new to buy this [TS]

00:55:28 ◼   ► particular to dollar item that somebody [TS]

00:55:30 ◼   ► would treasure for the rest of their [TS]

00:55:31 ◼   ► life you never even my friend Christine [TS]

00:55:33 ◼   ► she's like that Kristina always present [TS]

00:55:34 ◼   ► gift like how to just how you look [TS]

00:55:37 ◼   ► did I don't like how do you do that how [TS]

00:55:40 ◼   ► does your brain how do you like work for [TS]

00:55:42 ◼   ► George Lucas and still have the ability [TS]

00:55:44 ◼   ► to remember what all of your friends [TS]

00:55:46 ◼   ► like and have it somewhere floating [TS]

00:55:48 ◼   ► through your mind at a given time as [TS]

00:55:49 ◼   ► something to act on that feels like [TS]

00:55:51 ◼   ► magic to me that is the people that know [TS]

00:55:53 ◼   ► exactly what gift to give are truly [TS]

00:55:57 ◼   ► magicians and I think some of those [TS]

00:55:58 ◼   ► right like i had a friend whose job it [TS]

00:56:01 ◼   ► was to fill up the ipods of famous [TS]

00:56:05 ◼   ► people write all this year we had that [TS]

00:56:08 ◼   ► was she did Courtney Love's a ipod was [TS]

00:56:10 ◼   ► our doesn't droop somebody's barrymore [TS]

00:56:12 ◼   ► that's it you're very more uh and there [TS]

00:56:14 ◼   ► are a lot of people i think in college [TS]

00:56:16 ◼   ► who love music who think that their love [TS]

00:56:19 ◼   ► of music has a special talent and very [TS]

00:56:21 ◼   ► few people have like a supernatural [TS]

00:56:24 ◼   ► understanding of how music works with [TS]

00:56:27 ◼   ► one another you know the great djs like [TS]

00:56:29 ◼   ► but but but there are a lot of people [TS]

00:56:31 ◼   ► who want to be in music because they [TS]

00:56:35 ◼   ► love music uh-huh and but and and I [TS]

00:56:38 ◼   ► think there are people whose jobs are to [TS]

00:56:41 ◼   ► be like gift buyers but it seems like [TS]

00:56:46 ◼   ► such a it's such a bougie world where [TS]

00:56:52 ◼   ► yes I live in you know I live on the [TS]

00:56:54 ◼   ► outskirts of Beverly Hills and my job is [TS]

00:56:56 ◼   ► to be a executive gift buyer for that's [TS]

00:56:59 ◼   ► just that's how it evidence is itself in [TS]

00:57:01 ◼   ► this culture right now because we don't [TS]

00:57:03 ◼   ► have another way to harness their skills [TS]

00:57:04 ◼   ► right if you but but think about the [TS]

00:57:06 ◼   ► value of just like hang out your shingle [TS]

00:57:09 ◼   ► death in in the sunset in San Francisco [TS]

00:57:13 ◼   ► you open a storefront you graduate from [TS]

00:57:14 ◼   ► Stanford announces I've decided on my [TS]

00:57:17 ◼   ► career I'm gonna I'm gonna fill [TS]

00:57:19 ◼   ► celebrity ipods well that you know but [TS]

00:57:21 ◼   ► like take it out of the the world of [TS]

00:57:24 ◼   ► rich people can imagine being somebody [TS]

00:57:26 ◼   ► who's just like yeah hi i'll fill your [TS]

00:57:28 ◼   ► ipod and i'll find gifts for your [TS]

00:57:30 ◼   ► friends for a nominal fee and have and [TS]

00:57:34 ◼   ► and have us culturally recognize that [TS]

00:57:37 ◼   ► that is a skill and you no longer have [TS]

00:57:40 ◼   ► to beat yourself up because you don't [TS]

00:57:42 ◼   ► know what gifts to get people you just [TS]

00:57:44 ◼   ► go to the gift buyer and that's a that's [TS]

00:57:47 ◼   ► a legit just like letter-writing where [TS]

00:57:49 ◼   ► you can hire somebody to write important [TS]

00:57:51 ◼   ► letters for you [TS]

00:57:52 ◼   ► yeah that's the thing and that seems I [TS]

00:57:54 ◼   ► mean grant writer is one of the most [TS]

00:57:57 ◼   ► incredible but the people that are great [TS]

00:57:59 ◼   ► at writing grants and meet them all the [TS]

00:58:00 ◼   ► time yeah we're like I love writing [TS]

00:58:02 ◼   ► grants it's like really the thing that i [TS]

00:58:04 ◼   ► would rather gouge out my eyeballs with [TS]

00:58:06 ◼   ► us fucking fork then do all right love [TS]

00:58:08 ◼   ► to do and they're like oh yeah give me [TS]

00:58:10 ◼   ► some grants to write [TS]

00:58:11 ◼   ► oh boy it's just like okay now I've [TS]

00:58:14 ◼   ► really do feel like there are very very [TS]

00:58:16 ◼   ► different species on this planet all [TS]

00:58:18 ◼   ► masquerading as human if you love to [TS]

00:58:20 ◼   ► write grants oh yeah I love writing and [TS]

00:58:22 ◼   ► get them to write some more rock but the [TS]

00:58:28 ◼   ► people that amazed me are the are the [TS]

00:58:29 ◼   ► diffusers the people who are as somebody [TS]

00:58:33 ◼   ► who finds it very difficult to diffuse a [TS]

00:58:36 ◼   ► situation where there's where the [TS]

00:58:39 ◼   ► tension is rising [TS]

00:58:40 ◼   ► yeah those people that can just be that [TS]

00:58:44 ◼   ► can that can take a really tense [TS]

00:58:46 ◼   ► situation and then everything else on [TS]

00:58:47 ◼   ► everybody's laughing yeah and you're [TS]

00:58:49 ◼   ► like you can feel them in the room like [TS]

00:58:51 ◼   ► exuding a kind of magic [TS]

00:58:53 ◼   ► yeah what did you just do how did you [TS]

00:58:55 ◼   ► just do that was something you feel [TS]

00:58:56 ◼   ► everybody feels kind of small to make a [TS]

00:58:58 ◼   ► big deal about it like wow this week [TS]

00:59:00 ◼   ► until we deal with this [TS]

00:59:01 ◼   ► yes this is this is not perfect but like [TS]

00:59:03 ◼   ► wow this the temperature and barometric [TS]

00:59:06 ◼   ► pressure of the room have completely [TS]

00:59:08 ◼   ► changed with this person being here and [TS]

00:59:09 ◼   ► they never condescended to anybody you [TS]

00:59:12 ◼   ► don't feel like they're they're trying [TS]

00:59:13 ◼   ► to get over on you and they don't even [TS]

00:59:14 ◼   ► have to say hey you guys let's do to do [TS]

00:59:17 ◼   ► it is more like there's sometimes people [TS]

00:59:19 ◼   ► just have a certain kind of presence [TS]

00:59:20 ◼   ► that brings up people's better angels [TS]

00:59:22 ◼   ► and and so let's say a person that has [TS]

00:59:25 ◼   ► that talent [TS]

00:59:26 ◼   ► yeah they're also smart and they're all [TS]

00:59:27 ◼   ► so personable and they're also you know [TS]

00:59:30 ◼   ► like ambitious or whatever and they they [TS]

00:59:32 ◼   ► go to college and they do well and they [TS]

00:59:34 ◼   ► get a job at a at amazon.com let's see [TS]

00:59:38 ◼   ► let's call it [TS]

00:59:39 ◼   ► let's say there's a business called [TS]

00:59:40 ◼   ► amazon.com that hires the second parking [TS]

00:59:42 ◼   ► here and let's say they work their it's [TS]

00:59:44 ◼   ► a very unusual name for a thing it would [TS]

00:59:46 ◼   ► cut it conjures up the image of a river [TS]

00:59:49 ◼   ► yeah very large river but he sells [TS]

00:59:51 ◼   ► piranhas yeah just here watching piranha [TS]

00:59:53 ◼   ► and like freshwater sharks and and [TS]

00:59:57 ◼   ► leaves was just home leaves [TS]

00:59:57 ◼   ► leaves was just home leaves [TS]

01:00:00 ◼   ► please think about all the leaves and go [TS]

01:00:02 ◼   ► down the Amazon I but so this person is [TS]

01:00:06 ◼   ► working there in a in a capacity that is [TS]

01:00:09 ◼   ► a that have some authority there they're [TS]

01:00:12 ◼   ► managing a group of people and they're [TS]

01:00:14 ◼   ► doing a really good job and every once [TS]

01:00:15 ◼   ► in a while some situation arises between [TS]

01:00:18 ◼   ► two employees and this person is there [TS]

01:00:21 ◼   ► and it has a small subset of what they [TS]

01:00:24 ◼   ► do as a manager they resolve this [TS]

01:00:25 ◼   ► conflict and it's and everybody walks [TS]

01:00:28 ◼   ► away feeling good right and we see this [TS]

01:00:31 ◼   ► type of thing all the time [TS]

01:00:32 ◼   ► oh my managers really good resolving [TS]

01:00:33 ◼   ► conflicts but out there somewhere in [TS]

01:00:36 ◼   ► that job is a super diffuser somebody [TS]

01:00:40 ◼   ► who would be capable of resolving the [TS]

01:00:43 ◼   ► resolving state conflict so they're like [TS]

01:00:46 ◼   ► the wolf except for massive human [TS]

01:00:49 ◼   ► disagreements [TS]

01:00:50 ◼   ► yeah they have the ability they don't [TS]

01:00:52 ◼   ► have asked that I Drive fast to get this [TS]

01:00:54 ◼   ► thing settled let's get this thing [TS]

01:00:55 ◼   ► though you get some Windex you get the [TS]

01:00:59 ◼   ► sweatshirt has legs but like so there [TS]

01:01:03 ◼   ► are people with that kind of stat that [TS]

01:01:06 ◼   ► level of magic in resolving disputes but [TS]

01:01:10 ◼   ► it's masked by their just general sort [TS]

01:01:14 ◼   ► of talent and they end up in a job where [TS]

01:01:19 ◼   ► they do well and they are doing a good [TS]

01:01:22 ◼   ► job but we didn't find them we didn't [TS]

01:01:25 ◼   ► find them and say you have this talent [TS]

01:01:27 ◼   ► it's a super talent and where you where [TS]

01:01:30 ◼   ► we need you really is in the State [TS]

01:01:32 ◼   ► Department well and the thing or even [TS]

01:01:34 ◼   ► like let's say that's an aspect of your [TS]

01:01:35 ◼   ► job or because you know wow [TS]

01:01:37 ◼   ► jennifer is super good at making [TS]

01:01:41 ◼   ► everybody act like an adult without [TS]

01:01:42 ◼   ► being condescending but maybe Jennifer's [TS]

01:01:44 ◼   ► doesn't maybe that's not her main job [TS]

01:01:46 ◼   ► maybe that's not how she's rewarded [TS]

01:01:48 ◼   ► maybe that's not how she's acknowledged [TS]

01:01:49 ◼   ► maybe that's not how she was recruited [TS]

01:01:50 ◼   ► but that's not going to be something [TS]

01:01:52 ◼   ► that necessarily if she's a corporate [TS]

01:01:54 ◼   ► attorney who's merely a litigator that [TS]

01:01:57 ◼   ► may come up a couple times here but if [TS]

01:01:59 ◼   ► she's just there to be a bulldog and [TS]

01:02:00 ◼   ► like screen the other side down that [TS]

01:02:02 ◼   ► skill you know while being there may not [TS]

01:02:05 ◼   ► be beneficial to her work well or even [TS]

01:02:08 ◼   ► if it even if it really is a big part of [TS]

01:02:11 ◼   ► why Jenna [TS]

01:02:12 ◼   ► or became an executive vice president at [TS]

01:02:15 ◼   ► let's say a company called apple right [TS]

01:02:21 ◼   ► just wonder what you need lessly money [TS]

01:02:24 ◼   ► in these examples of making people [TS]

01:02:26 ◼   ► wonder who you're talking about Jennifer [TS]

01:02:28 ◼   ► Jennifer Jennifer Jennifer letter friend [TS]

01:02:30 ◼   ► that's the day that right but and we [TS]

01:02:34 ◼   ► think of her as being extremely [TS]

01:02:36 ◼   ► successful and of her problem solving [TS]

01:02:38 ◼   ► ability of her a conflict resolution [TS]

01:02:41 ◼   ► ability being a major component of what [TS]

01:02:43 ◼   ► made her success there but we never knew [TS]

01:02:45 ◼   ► was how gifted she was at that one thing [TS]

01:02:50 ◼   ► and how much that gift actually [TS]

01:02:52 ◼   ► overshadowed her management ability or [TS]

01:02:55 ◼   ► her you know her usefulness to apple [TS]

01:02:58 ◼   ► like she was she was the magneto of [TS]

01:03:03 ◼   ► solving conflicts [TS]

01:03:05 ◼   ► yeah but net but there was never an [TS]

01:03:07 ◼   ► opportunity to see how truly gifted she [TS]

01:03:10 ◼   ► was because she was you know she was [TS]

01:03:11 ◼   ► given these simple things like oh well [TS]

01:03:13 ◼   ► you know Bob said that Jim's plan is [TS]

01:03:16 ◼   ► radio too loud and jim says that he was [TS]

01:03:17 ◼   ► told you know that quietly after 11 [TS]

01:03:21 ◼   ► yeah that was a stapler or whatever and [TS]

01:03:22 ◼   ► she's like let me handle this and she [TS]

01:03:25 ◼   ► does everybody like wow they got [TS]

01:03:26 ◼   ► Jennifer's here but meanwhile you know [TS]

01:03:30 ◼   ► what meanwhile the Stuxnet is dissolving [TS]

01:03:33 ◼   ► centrifuges in Iran because we can't [TS]

01:03:35 ◼   ► find a single person that can make sense [TS]

01:03:37 ◼   ► of of the negotiation around the table [TS]

01:03:41 ◼   ► like yeah [TS]

01:03:42 ◼   ► Herman Blix or whatever isn't doing a [TS]

01:03:44 ◼   ► good enough job and if we put Jennifer [TS]

01:03:46 ◼   ► in there should be like oh listen he can [TS]

01:03:51 ◼   ► play quietly after eleven you guys you [TS]

01:03:53 ◼   ► guys can use these centrifuges to make [TS]