Roderick on the Line

Ep. 209: "Keep the Lines Right"


00:00:00   [Music] [TS]

00:00:07   hello hi john i'm marilyn is going [TS]

00:00:11   pretty good pretty good reap was that [TS]

00:00:19   deuce wasn't that needle come across a [TS]

00:00:22   record reap rape no but speaking records [TS]

00:00:28   today is the 10-year anniversary of the [TS]

00:00:30   release of putting the days to bed the [TS]

00:00:32   long winters most recent album [TS]

00:00:36   mm that's not possible ten years and [TS]

00:00:39   long winter [TS]

00:00:41   oh i just got an email about it i still [TS]

00:00:43   think that is your new record [TS]

00:00:44   yeah i know it is the move that get [TS]

00:00:47   technically that's that was ten years [TS]

00:00:50   went by pretty quick yeah 10 years 10 [TS]

00:00:53   years well you know one of the reasons [TS]

00:00:55   that went by so fast is that they [TS]

00:00:56   invented Twitter somewhere in the middle [TS]

00:00:58   there [TS]

00:00:58   uh-huh and then we were all just we're [TS]

00:01:01   all just pastoralist before that just [TS]

00:01:04   want around our fields tending are cheap [TS]

00:01:08   and then we became digital digital's at [TS]

00:01:13   first we just stopped attending the [TS]

00:01:15   sheep as well yeah right [TS]

00:01:17   the the herd was still there is the [TS]

00:01:19   scented stationery paper [TS]

00:01:22   mhm know the parlor the parlor part of a [TS]

00:01:26   lot of time in the parlor yeah [TS]

00:01:28   tapping out my pipe onto my brass pipe [TS]

00:01:31   stand [TS]

00:01:32   tap-tap-tap huh brass pipe stand with [TS]

00:01:35   them but my you know put a little marker [TS]

00:01:38   in my book and lay it down on the [TS]

00:01:40   bedside table and then go upstairs to my [TS]

00:01:42   steam-operated computer and log on to [TS]

00:01:47   Twitter oh I'll someone hacked the form [TS]

00:01:51   again I would see my few friends there [TS]

00:01:56   that I thought were amusing [TS]

00:01:58   mhm then mhm [TS]

00:02:01   wave after wave [TS]

00:02:04   hmm zombies yeah blood [TS]

00:02:11   I am NOT super awake yet [TS]

00:02:15   no me either this might be this might be [TS]

00:02:17   a fairly pastoral episode I was very [TS]

00:02:20   much in the process of waking up what [TS]

00:02:22   this seems unusual that you would show [TS]

00:02:24   up to the show in the same state that i [TS]

00:02:27   have to show you [TS]

00:02:29   yea-ah throat I yeah I've been listening [TS]

00:02:36   to a cappella music which is you know [TS]

00:02:41   it's calming me down [TS]

00:02:43   mmm i may be just a coincidence but last [TS]

00:02:48   night I worked pretty hard and have yet [TS]

00:02:53   to succeed at getting my ringtone to be [TS]

00:02:56   an acapella selection [TS]

00:02:58   Oh any help with that I hope that can [TS]

00:03:01   you uh huh yeah I don't know how to do [TS]

00:03:04   it [TS]

00:03:04   I innocence downloaded two apps called [TS]

00:03:10   ringtone apps neither thing can help me [TS]

00:03:13   I have to go back to the mainframe no [TS]

00:03:17   notice we have to rewrite the encryption [TS]

00:03:19   now i'm in okay and I don't don't want [TS]

00:03:24   to do any of those i hate computers [TS]

00:03:26   Maryland i'm very frustrated by them [TS]

00:03:28   they're awful [TS]

00:03:29   I don't talk about John but I'm not done [TS]

00:03:31   that such a fan myself [TS]

00:03:32   they're really awful yeah and so every [TS]

00:03:36   the last two or three days has been it [TS]

00:03:40   just seems like there's been a real [TS]

00:03:41   uptick in in like everywhere you go on [TS]

00:03:46   the internet now they are rude like [TS]

00:03:48   everywhere you go something pops up in [TS]

00:03:50   front of you hear you're expected to [TS]

00:03:52   login i went on to and I did not mean to [TS]

00:03:54   do this but I went on to pinterest on [TS]

00:03:57   ice on a phone on a phone and the only [TS]

00:04:01   thinking every furnishing your mood [TS]

00:04:02   board i was somebody was saying like I [TS]

00:04:05   want to I want a what was it [TS]

00:04:08   oh they wanted the start somebody they [TS]

00:04:10   were interested in small house culture [TS]

00:04:13   mm you very hip too small house culture [TS]

00:04:16   yeah i think so i think is in there look [TS]

00:04:19   at that there's a TV show about it and [TS]

00:04:21   it's a common of a regular feature on [TS]

00:04:23   our local website you know the chronicle [TS]

00:04:27   website that there because everything's [TS]

00:04:29   horrible here and people are trying to [TS]

00:04:30   live in like three hundred places [TS]

00:04:32   smaller than my office families are [TS]

00:04:33   living in you know like these little [TS]

00:04:36   hipster cyber hobbles yeah yeah that was [TS]

00:04:40   which are like the appeal of them i [TS]

00:04:42   think the people is that you can [TS]

00:04:44   organize everything you can kern knoll [TS]

00:04:47   oh you gotta go ya Nolan board for that [TS]

00:04:49   they have a whole pinterest page about [TS]

00:04:51   my different knowing boards you [TS]

00:04:53   yeah was actually the swedish word for a [TS]

00:04:56   buffet [TS]

00:04:57   why do people leave the chaos of it are [TS]

00:04:58   pretty sure it's controlled to know [TS]

00:05:00   yeah but a but yeah they like it feels [TS]

00:05:03   it absolutely appeals to a certain [TS]

00:05:05   sensibility you as a RV owner get this a [TS]

00:05:09   little bit i have a friend who lives on [TS]

00:05:11   a boat [TS]

00:05:11   there's a certain you know you your life [TS]

00:05:14   has to change when you live on a boat [TS]

00:05:16   mm I mean have you known people live on [TS]

00:05:18   boats it's a very different experience i [TS]

00:05:20   have i've known people who lived on [TS]

00:05:21   boats i went to a college went to a [TS]

00:05:24   college with a guy who graduated from [TS]

00:05:27   college he went and bought instead of [TS]

00:05:31   renting his first apartment he bought [TS]

00:05:32   like a really dilapidated old enormous [TS]

00:05:38   motoryacht like the kind of motor yacht [TS]

00:05:41   that that maybe FDR would have had a [TS]

00:05:44   summit with the Tojo on although i don't [TS]

00:05:49   think you ever met you know like a 1935 [TS]

00:05:54   chris-craft 49 foot all what all would [TS]

00:06:02   he can afford that it would have to be [TS]

00:06:04   in horrible condition it was in horrible [TS]

00:06:06   condition [TS]

00:06:07   I mean I was a kid to me uh you know [TS]

00:06:09   there's a certain things that are like [TS]

00:06:11   the canonical example of like fanciness [TS]

00:06:13   like a mercedes benz car [TS]

00:06:16   Baked Alaska desert 40 foot yacht Oscars [TS]

00:06:20   or feller [TS]

00:06:22   yes right on Oscars or feller was about [TS]

00:06:25   something that you only heard fancy [TS]

00:06:26   people or try to get spinach and pearls [TS]

00:06:28   well but two things you have to remember [TS]

00:06:32   in 1991 like 1936 a dilapidated 1936 [TS]

00:06:43   motoryacht 40-foot motoryacht 49 foot I [TS]

00:06:47   think super-big that you know there was [TS]

00:06:51   no there was no culture like there is [TS]

00:06:56   now where everything is expensive it was [TS]

00:06:58   just like oh right i mean people want is [TS]

00:07:00   ruined the dollar was strong people [TS]

00:07:02   weren't as rude as the dollar was strong [TS]

00:07:03   but like in Seattle you could buy in [TS]

00:07:05   1991 you could buy a house in the [TS]

00:07:07   central district for like sixty thousand [TS]

00:07:09   dollars so now that houses were 760,000 [TS]

00:07:13   dollars so just apply retroactively Lee [TS]

00:07:17   that same inflation deflation to get [TS]

00:07:20   three or four 4944 probably about about [TS]

00:07:22   60 bucks [TS]

00:07:23   I mean it was I don't know I don't know [TS]

00:07:25   how I don't know what you paid for but [TS]

00:07:26   it's and handling fees if was cheap and [TS]

00:07:30   also the the the other thing people [TS]

00:07:35   forget about boats is that they are [TS]

00:07:38   constantly changing hands because every [TS]

00:07:41   spring somebody every spring you know a [TS]

00:07:44   thousand people are like I want a boat [TS]

00:07:46   and they buy a boat and then they [TS]

00:07:48   realize it's a expensive leaky yeah scro [TS]

00:07:53   smelling pole in the water it's like [TS]

00:07:56   investing in entropy like II everything [TS]

00:07:59   in your life is breaking a little bit [TS]

00:08:01   all the time because really accelerated [TS]

00:08:03   on public even if you are really really [TS]

00:08:06   good about everything and you polish the [TS]

00:08:08   brass and you keep the lines you know [TS]

00:08:09   right and everything it's the Brask you [TS]

00:08:12   get a learner's right but but but that's [TS]

00:08:16   just that stuff that master and [TS]

00:08:17   commander shouts that is the sound of [TS]

00:08:20   the waves [TS]

00:08:21   that's right you want to have the get to [TS]

00:08:23   get the sails up you get them isn't [TS]

00:08:25   mizzenmast bows and you get the whistle [TS]

00:08:28   back elbows in the Wizzle back i can [TS]

00:08:33   also like I used to but that no it'sit's [TS]

00:08:36   I I have had several people in my life [TS]

00:08:39   who lived on boats the father [TS]

00:08:41   my primary lady friend in the nineties i [TS]

00:08:44   lived on a boat and it was really it was [TS]

00:08:46   quite interesting [TS]

00:08:48   it was you know it's you know in a way [TS]

00:08:49   it's a little bit like today we've got [TS]

00:08:52   these uh this is I'm still waking up [TS]

00:08:55   like we think about like okay this trash [TS]

00:08:57   goes in the trash trash goes in the [TS]

00:08:58   recycling the stretch goes in the [TS]

00:08:59   compost you get we have three different [TS]

00:09:01   giant receptacles for that and on a boat [TS]

00:09:05   you've got like about as much trash room [TS]

00:09:07   as you do at like a Hampton Inn like you [TS]

00:09:11   don't you don't you can't have stuff you [TS]

00:09:13   have to have like one of this thing that [TS]

00:09:16   does lots of things you can have your [TS]

00:09:17   DVD collection and stuff like that [TS]

00:09:19   no you have to have one tool yeah one [TS]

00:09:22   tool that's a screwdriver a saw [TS]

00:09:26   bosun's mate both to get a buzz and mast [TS]

00:09:29   buddy but I guess I'm trying to say is [TS]

00:09:30   it's not since it is obviously hugely [TS]

00:09:32   based on the amount of space you have [TS]

00:09:34   which is next to nothing but if you want [TS]

00:09:36   to be able to move around at all and [TS]

00:09:37   then it's the accommodations and [TS]

00:09:38   sacrifices like you have to have room [TS]

00:09:40   for those tools like you don't you don't [TS]

00:09:42   have you stuffed animal collection or [TS]

00:09:43   something like that right well and and I [TS]

00:09:46   think the key like my RV for instance [TS]

00:09:49   you know I i was driving around it [TS]

00:09:51   yesterday and and then I parked in front [TS]

00:09:57   of the house and you know i'll drive [TS]

00:09:59   around its next weekend or two weekends [TS]

00:10:01   from now you know you getting the RV [TS]

00:10:03   when you feel like it you go putter [TS]

00:10:05   around that's be the RV that's the [TS]

00:10:07   beauty of it but when you have a boat if [TS]

00:10:10   you leave it unattended for two weeks [TS]

00:10:13   maybe it's sink [TS]

00:10:14   uh-huh maybe it's full of water rats now [TS]

00:10:17   maybe you know like it the nature is [TS]

00:10:21   more actively trying to kill a boat than [TS]

00:10:23   any other thing I've been told by our [TS]

00:10:25   mutual friend John Stark he said that [TS]

00:10:27   the the greatest enemy of a homeowner is [TS]

00:10:29   moisture and if you think about that [TS]

00:10:31   your house is literally in water you [TS]

00:10:34   know and it's not nice water usually its [TS]

00:10:36   water its water that you basically [TS]

00:10:38   you're sitting in a big piece of wood in [TS]

00:10:40   water so that just just to start let [TS]

00:10:42   alone keeping the brass shiny you know [TS]

00:10:44   they're keep the brush I'm keeping a lot [TS]

00:10:46   what does it keep the lines clean right [TS]

00:10:50   yeah people's writing from I hold field [TS]

00:10:52   momentous to keep the lines right people [TS]

00:10:54   lives [TS]

00:10:55   I mean not that seems like something you [TS]

00:10:56   should have on a t-shirt keep the lines [TS]

00:10:58   right ones right well you might be [TS]

00:10:59   something start trying to polish the [TS]

00:11:01   brass and keep the lines right keep the [TS]

00:11:02   lines right [TS]

00:11:03   Star Trek Sanders that a ship sound I [TS]

00:11:06   just made what you just made was the [TS]

00:11:08   star trek or door openings but but we're [TS]

00:11:13   thinking of that is that buzzing missile [TS]

00:11:20   at suppose the middle as a business [TS]

00:11:22   model that way to do more songs about [TS]

00:11:25   ships motion visual mr. Ferris do it now [TS]

00:11:30   keep the tracks and that's what they're [TS]

00:11:33   there for [TS]

00:11:33   Charlie bird should keep your arms right [TS]

00:11:36   not December sound that was the [TS]

00:11:39   decemberists yeah I believe that your [TS]

00:11:42   little something like this [TS]

00:11:45   corazon lyrics in his Twitter bio I [TS]

00:11:50   don't know I haven't looked at collins [TS]

00:11:52   Twitter bio and well okay I you know [TS]

00:11:55   nothing would surprise me who we really [TS]

00:11:59   are in a very very subdued have you had [TS]

00:12:03   coffee at two coffees and two coffees [TS]

00:12:05   and and and some pharmacists [TS]

00:12:09   over-the-counter uh pharmacist for most [TS]

00:12:12   used to be we would tend our herd [TS]

00:12:17   yeah right i had some I had some of my [TS]

00:12:20   friends recently introduced me to this [TS]

00:12:23   sinus medicine so that gives me a little [TS]

00:12:26   little energy but it has really kicked [TS]

00:12:27   in yet [TS]

00:12:28   be careful about listened acapella music [TS]

00:12:29   it really really threw me off [TS]

00:12:31   I used to sit at my at my feet frame [TS]

00:12:34   computer [TS]

00:12:35   mmm [TS]

00:12:35   and do my tweet out there in the cold [TS]

00:12:38   room set up there at the desk shit lines [TS]

00:12:41   are right i would log on group or [TS]

00:12:44   daughter we call handshaking and what is [TS]

00:12:49   that handshaking in this when the [TS]

00:12:51   mothers are talking to each other [TS]

00:12:52   working some things out [TS]

00:12:54   remember them the website will go to the [TS]

00:12:57   website of Twitter and start to load you [TS]

00:12:59   get coffee come back 20 minutes later [TS]

00:13:01   and then I'd go on there and I read all [TS]

00:13:03   the tweets that have been tweeted the [TS]

00:13:05   following day when I all 20 of them huh [TS]

00:13:08   and I would have I we go haha oh that [TS]

00:13:11   person is amusing their run went quite [TS]

00:13:14   well and then I was at thai food sounds [TS]

00:13:16   quite toothsome I would put my hands [TS]

00:13:19   together and a problem here we go here [TS]

00:13:22   we go crack my knuckles on but the [TS]

00:13:25   fingertips to the keyboard and say what [TS]

00:13:29   witnesses haha hosted a lame-o shust [TS]

00:13:33   could you pick it looking to you you big [TS]

00:13:36   all those were the halcyon days [TS]

00:13:39   uh-huh tweeting but then like all drugs [TS]

00:13:44   uh-huh like teeth fell out yeah cheek [TS]

00:13:48   sunk my seeks chunk week's challenge [TS]

00:13:50   living on a boat can keep the lines [TS]

00:13:52   right all of a sudden everything smells [TS]

00:13:54   like mold and I have my greatest enemy [TS]

00:13:55   is moisture i like i like the smell in [TS]

00:13:57   your RV my family does not i like it i [TS]

00:14:00   didn't notice it [TS]

00:14:01   my family did I like the smell it smells [TS]

00:14:03   like the seventies your talk about the [TS]

00:14:05   motor oil and the the nascent it's gonna [TS]

00:14:08   it's gonna it's gonna kind of enduring [TS]

00:14:10   moist aspect [TS]

00:14:13   mmm yeah I mean I guess every single [TS]

00:14:15   kind of list thing about small houses [TS]

00:14:17   yeah right my friend was saying small [TS]

00:14:20   houses are what this is like this is the [TS]

00:14:24   future and and so they were looking at [TS]

00:14:28   like these little cute cute little cedar [TS]

00:14:32   shingles little homes i was like want to [TS]

00:14:36   get a well what I'm going to engulf an [TS]

00:14:39   Airstream don't get a Gulfstream images [TS]

00:14:41   are very costly that's like having a [TS]

00:14:43   boat sky-boat described but if you get [TS]

00:14:45   an air attack but for what it's worth [TS]

00:14:46   the guy who lived on a boat in the [TS]

00:14:47   nineties [TS]

00:14:48   Elvis airplane my so-called streams that [TS]

00:14:51   was his job he was using a Gulfstream [TS]

00:14:53   salesmen really so love David Geffen dr. [TS]

00:14:56   bill cosby he sold go ugh [TS]

00:14:59   Gulfstream's to people when you're [TS]

00:15:00   telling me that bill cosby owned his own [TS]

00:15:02   gulfstream yeah yeah he so I don't see [TS]

00:15:05   too much but he was he did a pre-owned [TS]

00:15:08   gulfstream sales nice so you know if [TS]

00:15:11   you're looking to get into a Gulfstream [TS]

00:15:13   4075 comes out you are for [TS]

00:15:15   he's how was it going to take to put you [TS]

00:15:17   in a ghost ring today right sure he's a [TS]

00:15:19   broker is he broke the brokers [TS]

00:15:20   Gulfstream's behind the lines right I [TS]

00:15:23   know guy a good pretty good pretty good [TS]

00:15:25   friend in college whose job is to design [TS]

00:15:28   custom interiors for boeing business [TS]

00:15:30   jets is that affect my brother-in-law [TS]

00:15:33   specializes in turns out electronics for [TS]

00:15:37   boats he's eating not for electronics [TS]

00:15:40   expert [TS]

00:15:41   wow so if you want like because you know [TS]

00:15:43   you know it's not just your DVD player [TS]

00:15:44   and stuff he does that he does the sound [TS]

00:15:47   but he does all of the like the stuff [TS]

00:15:48   that makes the boat run the radars stuff [TS]

00:15:51   you get the sonar you get the radars on [TS]

00:15:53   ours you know my sister dated a guy for [TS]

00:15:56   a long time who was a boat electrician [TS]

00:15:59   but that's hard that's that's that's [TS]

00:16:01   what Sam does yeah yeah and it's yeah [TS]

00:16:04   you're right you're working confined [TS]

00:16:06   spaces little TV let you get you get you [TS]

00:16:08   just it's like writing checks because [TS]

00:16:10   those both folks there to there used to [TS]

00:16:12   people you know given the mizzenmast [TS]

00:16:14   they're using everything costing more [TS]

00:16:17   it's like staying at a resort when you [TS]

00:16:18   live on a boat when you join the sense [TS]

00:16:20   that you know you're not as much [TS]

00:16:21   selection is going to cost a lot of [TS]

00:16:23   ninjas laugh I yet if my mom uses [TS]

00:16:25   because my dad had a boat right when my [TS]

00:16:26   mom and dad were married all that makes [TS]

00:16:28   sense to say that it if you need it [TS]

00:16:30   apart you can go to the hardware store [TS]

00:16:32   and get the part or you can go to the [TS]

00:16:34   boat hardware store and pay 50 times [TS]

00:16:37   more for the same part but it had a but [TS]

00:16:39   it came in a package that said four [TS]

00:16:41   boats and haha when I was when she was [TS]

00:16:45   pregnant with me she said David who need [TS]

00:16:49   to get rid of this boat because it was [TS]

00:16:51   all he did right he was because he raced [TS]

00:16:53   it he was a sailboat racer every weekend [TS]

00:16:56   every sunny day he was out you know [TS]

00:16:58   winter summer [TS]

00:16:59   out racing is sailboat against other [TS]

00:17:02   sailboats around you know when you look [TS]

00:17:03   at the beautiful water and you see this [TS]

00:17:05   flotilla of fast-moving sailboats like [TS]

00:17:08   he would just love that just love to be [TS]

00:17:10   in the mix and he and his is he trying [TS]

00:17:15   to get the entire family to be as crew [TS]

00:17:17   but as time went on he didn't he is his [TS]

00:17:24   older kids didn't like to be captained [TS]

00:17:26   you know what I'm saying [TS]

00:17:27   huh and my mom didn't didn't prefer to [TS]

00:17:30   be a part of a sailboat crew either so [TS]

00:17:32   he you know then you just getting up [TS]

00:17:34   early but I don't think she doesn't seem [TS]

00:17:36   like she particularly relishes agreeing [TS]

00:17:38   to take orders from people well and also [TS]

00:17:40   the salt water spray and the Yoho that's [TS]

00:17:43   all going to have that spirit right in [TS]

00:17:45   my mom would preferred infinitely [TS]

00:17:48   preferred to have been reading the [TS]

00:17:50   French Lieutenant's woman on the dock [TS]

00:17:52   and watch the cell local by just a hot [TS]

00:17:54   perfect [TS]

00:17:55   she's probably she's probably wearing at [TS]

00:17:58   that point in time 1960 she's got big [TS]

00:18:00   sunglasses on she's got her hair and a [TS]

00:18:02   kerchief and she's a and probably [TS]

00:18:05   wearing three-quarter length Capri white [TS]

00:18:08   capri pants on there and she's watching [TS]

00:18:10   the sailboat go by that's fine with her [TS]

00:18:11   who dads out there with John TCAP but [TS]

00:18:15   then when she got pregnant she said you [TS]

00:18:17   gotta get rid of this boat this boat is [TS]

00:18:19   a hole in the waterways shovel money and [TS]

00:18:22   be it takes all your time and you know [TS]

00:18:26   it's not something really we share it as [TS]

00:18:28   a couple ditch the boat we had a kid on [TS]

00:18:30   the way my dad sold the boat and [TS]

00:18:32   immediately bought an airplane out here [TS]

00:18:33   which is you know in his style so I grew [TS]

00:18:37   up I grew up with the airplane [TS]

00:18:38   I never had any I don't have any sailing [TS]

00:18:40   experience and can only run a concept [TS]

00:18:42   test on you because I I don't know much [TS]

00:18:45   about things but it feels like you've [TS]

00:18:47   got mostly you know you think about [TS]

00:18:49   Maslow's hierarchy of airplanes you got [TS]

00:18:51   you start out with like okay you have to [TS]

00:18:53   have a place to live it's nice to have a [TS]

00:18:54   place to live secure place to live so [TS]

00:18:56   like in time you make it like a vacation [TS]

00:18:59   rental or you may get a cabin maybe you [TS]

00:19:02   get maybe you get a like with a strapon [TS]

00:19:05   trailers that you put on the back your [TS]

00:19:07   truck so you can drive around but it [TS]

00:19:08   feels like there are these levels to [TS]

00:19:10   this where you know maybe make [TS]

00:19:13   be your model trains I don't know but it [TS]

00:19:14   feels like you move up this ladder that [TS]

00:19:16   might start with something fairly modest [TS]

00:19:19   could start with a rowboat for all I [TS]

00:19:21   know but like it seems like if you've [TS]

00:19:22   got the most money most men will go up [TS]

00:19:24   this ladder of you're going to like the [TS]

00:19:27   second car camper boat boat that you can [TS]

00:19:31   like stay on until eventually they get [TS]

00:19:33   their plane if they can write well I [TS]

00:19:36   think airplane is a special kind of [TS]

00:19:39   person so there are right now like I [TS]

00:19:43   have plenty of friends who and in fact [TS]

00:19:45   some people who listen to this very [TS]

00:19:47   podcast who are still in their youth of [TS]

00:19:51   you who are already on the airplane [TS]

00:19:54   track but you're saying they're even [TS]

00:19:56   today despite hipster cyber hovels there [TS]

00:19:59   are millenniums that are on the airplane [TS]

00:20:01   track their millenniums who the airplane [TS]

00:20:03   is there that was always the airplane [TS]

00:20:05   and it will always be the air berlin so [TS]

00:20:07   it wasn't for my generation [TS]

00:20:09   well except they're so I never fully [TS]

00:20:13   understood i grew up flying planes i was [TS]

00:20:17   very immersed in Alaska airplane culture [TS]

00:20:20   but I never fully understood it because [TS]

00:20:24   I inherited the desire to sit on the [TS]

00:20:28   dock reading the French Lieutenant's [TS]

00:20:29   woman with my hair and a kerchief right [TS]

00:20:32   like I would prefer to be reading a book [TS]

00:20:35   to almost any kind of like a sport [TS]

00:20:42   let's say and I like to travel and I [TS]

00:20:45   like to adventure and I like to get in [TS]

00:20:47   trouble and I like to do stuff but if [TS]

00:20:49   it's something like hey we're going to [TS]

00:20:51   spend 45 minutes trying to get this [TS]

00:20:53   motor started so that we can drive this [TS]

00:20:56   motorized thing over that dune and then [TS]

00:21:00   we're going to come back over the dune [TS]

00:21:01   faster and try and jump it six inches in [TS]

00:21:04   the air [TS]

00:21:05   my feeling about it is always like well [TS]

00:21:07   yeah that sounds fun i hope you get the [TS]

00:21:08   motor started when you do maybe I'll [TS]

00:21:10   take a turn [TS]

00:21:11   but if it was up to me I would leave the [TS]

00:21:14   thing unstarted and why don't we all sit [TS]

00:21:18   here on this dude and read you know it's [TS]

00:21:20   just a difference in [TS]

00:21:22   since I guess a difference in what you [TS]

00:21:24   consider sporting maybe or maybe they [TS]

00:21:28   don't like to read but whatever it is I [TS]

00:21:32   might you know my dad and I would go [TS]

00:21:33   flying because he loved to fly and he [TS]

00:21:39   would get in that plane readers [TS]

00:21:40   checklists and we'd walk around would [TS]

00:21:43   take the chucks out and we'd pick the [TS]

00:21:45   pup poke and we'd pull the ball the [TS]

00:21:48   little flags and say do not remove until [TS]

00:21:50   it's time to fly but you must remove it [TS]

00:21:52   if you do want to fly all the little you [TS]

00:21:54   know and then I'd sit and read the [TS]

00:21:56   checklist out loud [TS]

00:21:58   yeah you know carburetor heat and he [TS]

00:22:01   would say on i would say 10 degrees of [TS]

00:22:04   flaps and would say 10 degrees flaps you [TS]

00:22:06   know it's like I see I like that part i [TS]

00:22:08   put the book down for me if I got to [TS]

00:22:09   yell things back and forth like that [TS]

00:22:10   super fun super fun but but but you know [TS]

00:22:14   of my own accord i would just sort of [TS]

00:22:18   never embark on once I'm there [TS]

00:22:20   yes absolutely like here we go but but I [TS]

00:22:25   would never embarked upon the all the [TS]

00:22:28   lead up to it and that's why me buying [TS]

00:22:31   an RV is was kind of a surprise because [TS]

00:22:33   like now I got a thing that now that I [TS]

00:22:35   get up and basically I should have a [TS]

00:22:37   checklist and somebody should be yelling [TS]

00:22:39   at me [TS]

00:22:40   why did I do this but so he loved he [TS]

00:22:44   loved all of that and the floor and then [TS]

00:22:49   the flying and and frankly the flying [TS]

00:22:52   here's what the flying is me [TS]

00:22:59   me and you look out the window but all [TS]

00:23:03   he was just you know he was loved it and [TS]

00:23:05   and and i would say let's go let's get [TS]

00:23:07   let's really get down you know 500 feet [TS]

00:23:10   off the ground looks like let's fly [TS]

00:23:12   through a barn and he would say no [TS]

00:23:15   that's dangerous [TS]

00:23:16   I'm very comfortable up here at 3,500 [TS]

00:23:19   feet and be like ah that's no better [TS]

00:23:22   love adventure this is just were just [TS]

00:23:24   like puttering along he's like yeah [TS]

00:23:27   puttering along pretty soon we'll we'll [TS]

00:23:30   lamb somewhere that I mean I you know [TS]

00:23:33   like he really loved it and I think that [TS]

00:23:36   that is a thing that a certain type of [TS]

00:23:39   person just once loves you know and they [TS]

00:23:44   they get their license then they give me [TS]

00:23:47   least planes are they you know they rent [TS]

00:23:50   them first and then they released their [TS]

00:23:51   own and then bury their after a while [TS]

00:23:53   they save up their money and they buy [TS]

00:23:55   1954 cessna152 then they got their own [TS]

00:23:59   plane and then they move up the the [TS]

00:24:01   Maslow's hierarchy of planes was like [TS]

00:24:03   huh [TS]

00:24:04   now I want a supercar but now i want to [TS]

00:24:06   172 now I gotta get a 185 she doesn't [TS]

00:24:11   then walk through it once you're at that [TS]

00:24:12   point i think that i can say for myself [TS]

00:24:14   that applies to lots of different things [TS]

00:24:15   whether like you start out by this one [TS]

00:24:17   comic book and then you want to trade [TS]

00:24:18   paperback there was a collective version [TS]

00:24:19   or like I've seen it with people with [TS]

00:24:21   things like where you know [TS]

00:24:22   remote-control devices or people say all [TS]

00:24:26   just I'll get this one little you know [TS]

00:24:27   hundred-dollar drone off Amazon and then [TS]

00:24:30   they're they're all in now but like this [TS]

00:24:33   is true of everything right how many [TS]

00:24:35   system how many drones are there right [TS]

00:24:38   now that are sitting at the bottom of [TS]

00:24:39   someone's closet will never be flown [TS]

00:24:41   again right now [TS]

00:24:42   yeah over 5,000 you think you think just [TS]

00:24:45   you think as few as five thousand i [TS]

00:24:47   think it's like a ThighMaster [TS]

00:24:48   yeah right you i will get it you get it [TS]

00:24:51   and you don't use it for a couple [TS]

00:24:53   weekends and you forget about it [TS]

00:24:55   I told every time I see a draw my god i [TS]

00:24:57   want one of those drones but if I had [TS]

00:24:59   one of those drones it would you know [TS]

00:25:00   I'd end up in the top of the closet I [TS]

00:25:02   don't have enough use for it and [TS]

00:25:04   watching it go up and come back down [TS]

00:25:05   isn't that interesting [TS]

00:25:06   yeah but what is a trade paperback [TS]

00:25:09   I first heard that term likely also like [TS]

00:25:12   it's basically i think that the general [TS]

00:25:15   term for is when you go to a bookstore [TS]

00:25:16   you got the hardcover books and then [TS]

00:25:19   you've got when it's like what's the [TS]

00:25:21   word perfect bound like when you got [TS]

00:25:23   like the square spine on something and [TS]

00:25:25   like the less expensive version [TS]

00:25:27   yeah so a trade paperbacks in comics are [TS]

00:25:30   RTB sometimes called graphic novels if [TS]

00:25:32   it's all one story is when you collect [TS]

00:25:34   four or more issues of a run in this one [TS]

00:25:38   addition if you're like me and you're [TS]

00:25:40   kind of a cheapskate and you can do [TS]

00:25:42   what's called trade waiting [TS]

00:25:43   which means you wait until the trade [TS]

00:25:44   paperback comes out there is another [TS]

00:25:46   term there's the term for there's a [TS]

00:25:47   really cheap pulpy ones so you got [TS]

00:25:49   hardbacks you got trade paperback then [TS]

00:25:51   you get the really puffy ones you get [TS]

00:25:52   like it the checkout [TS]

00:25:53   yeah you know what i mean yeah i think [TS]

00:25:55   there might be like at least used to be [TS]

00:25:57   like three levels [TS]

00:25:59   um I'm just I'm just remembering there [TS]

00:26:04   was a time when people treated their [TS]

00:26:06   computers like the like highly [TS]

00:26:11   customizable upgradeable put your you [TS]

00:26:15   know poor all your money into having [TS]

00:26:16   your computer be super fast and super [TS]

00:26:18   smoking and cool and rad people still do [TS]

00:26:21   that as it's actually had kind of [TS]

00:26:23   Renaissance used to be that it's it [TS]

00:26:25   that's easy to kind of be the case with [TS]

00:26:27   Max bits i think always been the case of [TS]

00:26:29   pcs that you can do all kinds of stuff [TS]

00:26:32   to it and you can in fact make one [TS]

00:26:34   yourself it's something our friend and [TS]

00:26:35   Benjamin used to do for living as you [TS]

00:26:36   can make them from scratch and sell them [TS]

00:26:38   and then at a certain point I think that [TS]

00:26:40   became something mostly people who are [TS]

00:26:42   really into video games did because you [TS]

00:26:44   get super tricked-out one remember for [TS]

00:26:46   time you get like funny cases make it [TS]

00:26:48   look steampunk or whatever and now now [TS]

00:26:50   today with the ridiculous designation [TS]

00:26:53   and apples hardware releases people are [TS]

00:26:55   returning to something called making a [TS]

00:26:57   hackintosh was when you you get parts [TS]

00:26:59   and you make a make-your-own mcintosh [TS]

00:27:03   because you can't do like serious like [TS]

00:27:06   oculus rift style vr you can't do super [TS]

00:27:09   high-end video games so people are [TS]

00:27:10   resorting to making their own max at [TS]

00:27:12   this point so intense emotion it's been [TS]

00:27:15   a big deal for a long time back from the [TS]

00:27:16   days when you get a computer kit and [TS]

00:27:17   make it home to your pc days nineties [TS]

00:27:20   and now today I think it's ink [TS]

00:27:22   have a renaissance especially among [TS]

00:27:24   linux and pc windows people [TS]

00:27:27   wow that was really well articulated [TS]

00:27:29   thank you have a good answer to that is [TS]

00:27:31   I wake up a little bit down the lines [TS]

00:27:33   right so do can you go because it seems [TS]

00:27:36   to me like if you walk into any kind of [TS]

00:27:38   Apple based enterprise like the store or [TS]

00:27:41   the website [TS]

00:27:42   uh-huh there's not a lot of you know [TS]

00:27:45   they control those environments so that [TS]

00:27:46   you there [TS]

00:27:47   it's not like you can we go out the back [TS]

00:27:49   door and and and say oh I'm just going [TS]

00:27:52   to sit in the backyard for a while like [TS]

00:27:53   it everything you do [TS]

00:27:55   somebody's grabbing you by the hand and [TS]

00:27:56   saying don't you mean over here on any [TS]

00:28:00   and all my feels like it feels like [TS]

00:28:01   everyone is on stage an apple store [TS]

00:28:04   yeah if you go to a fries and just start [TS]

00:28:06   wandering around the transistor I'll [TS]

00:28:07   it's like whatever it's like a big radio [TS]

00:28:09   shack that Apple it feels like you're [TS]

00:28:10   looking at a performance [TS]

00:28:12   yeah so I don't see anywhere in there [TS]

00:28:14   where there is a there is a carefully [TS]

00:28:16   like a vacuum-sealed bag with like [TS]

00:28:21   customizable Apple parts like build your [TS]

00:28:23   own right it seems very much like here [TS]

00:28:26   you go like and then you get the [TS]

00:28:28   headphone and then you get the you know [TS]

00:28:30   then you could be a doily and then you [TS]

00:28:32   go to checkout [TS]

00:28:33   yeah so where would you if you were [TS]

00:28:36   going to hackintosh the thing where [TS]

00:28:38   would you get peace hackintosh parts [TS]

00:28:40   um I don't know a lot about it and I [TS]

00:28:42   know it's it's kind of a hobbyist sort [TS]

00:28:44   of thing unless you are like a like a [TS]

00:28:45   real if your computer engineering type [TS]

00:28:49   it's less difficult but it's a lot of [TS]

00:28:51   like following diagrams and buying [TS]

00:28:53   certain parts and the particular [TS]

00:28:54   difficult with mac stuff is our apple [TS]

00:28:56   stuff is that there's all kinds of [TS]

00:28:59   things that can change in the software [TS]

00:29:01   that they probably will deliberately try [TS]

00:29:03   to change to keep that from being a [TS]

00:29:04   thing is there's been a over the years [TS]

00:29:08   with this really boring over the years [TS]

00:29:09   with Apple there's been this move to [TS]

00:29:12   become more operationally efficient and [TS]

00:29:15   be able to like get make a lot of their [TS]

00:29:18   own parts or have their parts made for [TS]

00:29:19   them and then to put them into a body [TS]

00:29:21   that's increasingly lighter and thinner [TS]

00:29:23   where it's very it's gotten very very [TS]

00:29:26   difficult to service your own mac let [TS]

00:29:29   alone alter its own sometimes you can't [TS]

00:29:32   you can't even change the ram in it that [TS]

00:29:35   I've had this [TS]

00:29:35   very same experience with myself I keep [TS]

00:29:37   trying to put all my hardware into us [TS]

00:29:40   faster and lighter body [TS]

00:29:42   yes but then it becomes increasingly [TS]

00:29:45   difficult to service [TS]

00:29:46   oh man and then they now she breaks down [TS]

00:29:50   around the ram yeah sure little thicker [TS]

00:29:53   in the middle of a war but you know [TS]

00:29:54   worked up until then so how's your how's [TS]

00:29:57   your family it's getting pretty good [TS]

00:30:00   bandwidth although people around me have [TS]

00:30:02   started to say that i am not remembering [TS]

00:30:08   everything [TS]

00:30:09   oh boy I i I've had this has been a [TS]

00:30:12   tough year for me i'm starting to [TS]

00:30:13   actually really really notice some [TS]

00:30:16   problems did make me a little fearful [TS]

00:30:18   are you using the right of octane of gas [TS]

00:30:22   but look at low low great gas in there's [TS]

00:30:26   a lot of water in that gap i noticed I [TS]

00:30:27   noticed for a while when I would hear [TS]

00:30:28   myself speaking on podcast i noticed [TS]

00:30:30   something we've talked about this but [TS]

00:30:32   something that I do occasionally which [TS]

00:30:33   is I say something and I unintentionally [TS]

00:30:37   say the opposite of what i meant to say [TS]

00:30:39   mmm [TS]

00:30:40   like I'm just kind of I'm used to being [TS]

00:30:42   quick on my feet and fast tongue and so [TS]

00:30:44   I could I feel like I could fly through [TS]

00:30:46   this array of 50 different options and [TS]

00:30:48   nowhere I just spin the wheel and that's [TS]

00:30:50   one thing for me when I get that wrong a [TS]

00:30:52   lot i just say the wrong thing [TS]

00:30:53   oh dear you might say Thomas Mann what I [TS]

00:30:55   mean John Locke there's lots of ways in [TS]

00:30:57   which I can get a little confused but [TS]

00:30:58   now also I noticed that actually almost [TS]

00:31:01   like having aphasia like the words that [TS]

00:31:02   come out of my mouth or like you know [TS]

00:31:04   ma'am dogface to the banana patch em I [TS]

00:31:06   don't think it's huge it's mostly in the [TS]

00:31:08   morning it's mostly when i'm waking up [TS]

00:31:09   but it is as we say in the computer [TS]

00:31:11   industry is a known issue known issues a [TS]

00:31:14   known issue I yeah you know I got a lot [TS]

00:31:17   on movie and it requires that I'd be [TS]

00:31:20   really you know really sharp all the [TS]

00:31:22   time [TS]

00:31:23   alright yeah i just i have to be really [TS]

00:31:25   really sharp because it's just doing all [TS]

00:31:28   the things you need to do for your [TS]

00:31:30   enterprise [TS]

00:31:31   yeah all my enterprises are all you know [TS]

00:31:33   they all require that i really really be [TS]

00:31:35   on top of the game you know from shirt [TS]

00:31:37   on the dusk didn't think that [TS]

00:31:38   operationally you got meetings to go to [TS]

00:31:41   yeah yeah people even we gotta get keep [TS]

00:31:43   the lines right well you have two lines [TS]

00:31:45   right right i mean you know a lot of [TS]

00:31:46   people are are feeding their family [TS]

00:31:48   and when you start telling you feel the [TS]

00:31:52   weight of that responsibility you do you [TS]

00:31:53   start thinking about people feeding [TS]

00:31:54   their families [TS]

00:31:55   yeah right and then use it i'll tell you [TS]

00:31:57   that business school can i afford to let [TS]

00:32:01   to let it down to let those lines go [TS]

00:32:03   slack for one minute get given all the [TS]

00:32:07   people that are trying to feed their [TS]

00:32:08   families [TS]

00:32:09   so I can't afford to have a decrease in [TS]

00:32:12   bandwidth I can't afford to to mistake [TS]

00:32:16   thomas mann 44 Jeremiah lock when you're [TS]

00:32:20   right we were working at that level and [TS]

00:32:23   you confuse a Robert Robert man with [TS]

00:32:25   that with a rabid I locked her Robert [TS]

00:32:27   Byrne Robert Burns officers are talking [TS]

00:32:31   like robert burns in the morning little [TS]

00:32:32   bit now that's the thing is when you're [TS]

00:32:34   operating at the scale you are in it in [TS]

00:32:36   many ways much like a Walmart where he [TS]

00:32:39   things that you change alter or get [TS]

00:32:41   wrong at that scale have an impact [TS]

00:32:43   butterfly flaps its wings Merlin yeah [TS]

00:32:46   and pretty soon the price of sprite goes [TS]

00:32:47   through the roof because your attention [TS]

00:32:48   you want to memorize all the way down [TS]

00:32:50   but fightin em I you know we've talked [TS]

00:32:55   about this quite a bit down that that [TS]

00:32:58   obviously like I never believed that I [TS]

00:33:02   that I was mortal or even fallible and [TS]

00:33:07   now you know over the course of [TS]

00:33:09   obviously many decades you again that's [TS]

00:33:12   between falta more in the Pope but yeah [TS]

00:33:16   basically right like an infallible [TS]

00:33:18   immortal being [TS]

00:33:20   I'm sort of like blue penis man oh yeah [TS]

00:33:23   right you can send ya right except he [TS]

00:33:25   doesn't you know he's got a rest from [TS]

00:33:27   what I can understand has a moral a [TS]

00:33:29   there's a little bit it feels like [TS]

00:33:31   there's some chinks in his moral armor [TS]

00:33:33   easy on the ping-pong yeah yeah also he [TS]

00:33:37   forget stuff like that Lori needs to [TS]

00:33:38   breathe on Mars see that's it that's [TS]

00:33:40   easy to forget because you're consumed [TS]

00:33:42   with other things because a lot of [TS]

00:33:43   people need to feed their families [TS]

00:33:45   yeah I think ever since he became blue [TS]

00:33:47   penis man he had I'm trying to avoid [TS]

00:33:49   using some delicate medical terms but he [TS]

00:33:51   has a certain distance from the feelings [TS]

00:33:54   and needs of others [TS]

00:33:56   I see [TS]

00:33:56   I see you I'm saying yeah he's a [TS]

00:33:58   spectral I feel like Billy Crudup for a [TS]

00:34:02   brief period was he was going to be my [TS]

00:34:06   actor ever get that feeling when you're [TS]

00:34:09   like that guy have to keep my first of [TS]

00:34:11   all amazing amazed that you can see had [TS]

00:34:13   tested [TS]

00:34:14   I'm amazed that you could pull that [TS]

00:34:15   quickly that he was blue penis man the [TS]

00:34:17   movie he was also in and I was in almost [TS]

00:34:19   famous right that's kind of what he's no [TS]

00:34:20   for use in almost famous but he was also [TS]

00:34:22   in jesus son i love his voice a great [TS]

00:34:25   movie no Jesus the Son that's Billy [TS]

00:34:27   Crudup yeah that's told to write that's [TS]

00:34:30   totally him and so Billy Crudup [TS]

00:34:32   extremely handsome your dreams in your [TS]

00:34:34   life when you feel like this could be my [TS]

00:34:35   actor [TS]

00:34:36   this is my actor I had everything about [TS]

00:34:38   it burns it burns that his name who's [TS]

00:34:39   the guy in the FI club movie [TS]

00:34:41   yeah add members edward scissor and [TS]

00:34:45   broadsides head were right ruddy-faced [TS]

00:34:48   no I'll Roderick Roderick Kipling right [TS]

00:34:51   runnymede right said fred to help he was [TS]

00:34:55   that guy do you remember the first time [TS]

00:34:56   that he appeared on the scene american [TS]

00:34:58   history x people here the thing is he [TS]

00:35:00   had like two giant very different movies [TS]

00:35:03   come out it's not like the same day [TS]

00:35:05   what were those well I remember he was [TS]

00:35:07   in everyone says I everyone says i love [TS]

00:35:09   you he was in everyone's i love you [TS]

00:35:11   the Woody Allen movie and then he was [TS]

00:35:13   also in i want to say my club i think [TS]

00:35:15   was 98 but like he seems like he's was [TS]

00:35:18   like a kevin spacey where it seems like [TS]

00:35:19   he just suddenly came out of nowhere he [TS]

00:35:21   was used everywhere within like a year [TS]

00:35:23   he was recognized immediately as a very [TS]

00:35:26   good actor was very work is versatile he [TS]

00:35:28   was committed personal and committed out [TS]

00:35:31   the first time I saw him was is he he [TS]

00:35:34   played the attorney in the People vs [TS]

00:35:39   Larry Flynt of course he was also in [TS]

00:35:41   that done no spoilers movie is in the [TS]

00:35:44   morn with the with the Buddhist I pretty [TS]

00:35:47   one has a frog will come on he was in [TS]

00:35:49   the defense for the history [TS]

00:35:51   no he was only one with the with the [TS]

00:35:54   richard gere remember interchange them [TS]

00:35:55   up in that one is a who's away you can [TS]

00:35:58   you remember the one he's a guy in jail [TS]

00:36:00   and Richard Gere's defending him [TS]

00:36:01   it's a witness for the prosecution never [TS]

00:36:04   saw that either [TS]

00:36:05   ah [TS]

00:36:06   edward norton and norton Edward Burns is [TS]

00:36:09   the guy in those other movies don't [TS]

00:36:11   norton norton the mood Alice sewn he was [TS]

00:36:16   also yeah I thought that's my god I [TS]

00:36:19   Ackman or 10 norton norton norton and uh [TS]

00:36:24   and billy crudup could have been that I [TS]

00:36:26   mean you know Leonardo DiCaprio was [TS]

00:36:27   never my actor [TS]

00:36:28   yeah let's just let's just come right [TS]

00:36:30   out and say it you know if you were if [TS]

00:36:32   you were eight years younger [TS]

00:36:34   it could be a maybe your little too old [TS]

00:36:36   to be 22 have much respect for him [TS]

00:36:39   especially when he was younger and had [TS]

00:36:41   that hair good hair nice hair and I [TS]

00:36:44   thought he did a very good job and [TS]

00:36:45   what's eating gilbert grape yeah i did [TS]

00:36:47   not like any of the subsequent things [TS]

00:36:49   i'm gonna be easy [TS]

00:36:50   I don't mind leonardo dicaprio movies [TS]

00:36:53   oh I just him that he's never gonna be [TS]

00:36:55   my god you should figure out where he's [TS]

00:36:57   going with the facial hair [TS]

00:36:58   I i find it troubling that every time I [TS]

00:37:00   see him I think he seems like he's [TS]

00:37:01   forever in facial hair transition and I [TS]

00:37:05   don't think that's an enduring look for [TS]

00:37:06   an adult man he still seems like a [TS]

00:37:08   teenager to me even though I know he's [TS]

00:37:10   in his forties he seems to me he feels [TS]

00:37:12   like a townie to me he feels like [TS]

00:37:14   somebody they went to a school that used [TS]

00:37:15   to be prestigious finished without much [TS]

00:37:18   you know acclamation and then kind of [TS]

00:37:21   hung around for a while I see it out [TS]

00:37:23   I get what you're saying he's a rich [TS]

00:37:25   town primal fear [TS]

00:37:27   Oh prime farrier 1996 never saw that i [TS]

00:37:31   would note that the Edward Norton was in [TS]

00:37:33   no movies in 1997 well and so this is my [TS]

00:37:37   question about Billy Crudup what [TS]

00:37:38   happened to Billy Crudup I I thought you [TS]

00:37:41   going to be the biggest star in the [TS]

00:37:42   world and he had a lot of gravitas to [TS]

00:37:46   doing now why the hell is Matthew [TS]

00:37:48   McConaughey yeah when all these Oscars [TS]

00:37:51   while Billy Crudup is what Mona la he [TS]

00:37:56   was also in big fish put in that [TS]

00:37:59   yeah that's pretty weird damn look at [TS]

00:38:01   this April of it feels like these days [TS]

00:38:04   everybody becomes a voice actor whenever [TS]

00:38:07   you're wondering what someone's doing [TS]

00:38:08   they're probably a voice actor know or [TS]

00:38:12   Christian Oh voice acting or like a [TS]

00:38:15   Christians banker [TS]

00:38:16   I you know I was talking I was on I did [TS]

00:38:18   this little of [TS]

00:38:19   this little TV production the other day [TS]

00:38:21   where I spent two days making these [TS]

00:38:23   these videos for the visit seattle group [TS]

00:38:29   where I had a talk show set on the back [TS]

00:38:33   of a flatbed truck and we drove around [TS]

00:38:37   and on the top of the total is what she [TS]

00:38:39   was Jason Finn involved in this [TS]

00:38:41   well I invited him onto the stage is a [TS]

00:38:42   photo of you guys talking on the stage [TS]

00:38:44   up on up on top of the so the the stage [TS]

00:38:47   set was a desk and a couch and some [TS]

00:38:50   potted ferns potted plants on a flatbed [TS]

00:38:54   truck and then over the top of it we're [TS]

00:38:55   in giant sort of old-fashioned lights [TS]

00:39:00   not neon lights but like letter lights [TS]

00:39:02   that have light bulbs in them you know [TS]

00:39:04   like our like you have a single one in a [TS]

00:39:06   coffee shop in Portland [TS]

00:39:07   yeah that's right like the letter K is [TS]

00:39:09   above the coffee shop mankind from from [TS]

00:39:11   kurts coffee or something but now it's [TS]

00:39:13   just yeah like hey we're cool but this [TS]

00:39:16   was the the whole top of this thing was [TS]

00:39:18   like it said hashtag hey Seattle across [TS]

00:39:22   the top of the truck and there's a lot [TS]

00:39:24   you know there was a lot that about the [TS]

00:39:25   whole project that's that scared me a [TS]

00:39:27   little bit like this is you know it may [TS]

00:39:30   be is this corny or maybe is this going [TS]

00:39:32   to be fun or is it like one of those [TS]

00:39:33   corny thing that's going to be fun but [TS]

00:39:36   it was you know it was fun we drove [TS]

00:39:37   around town and we we parked in front of [TS]

00:39:39   the space needle and then I had these [TS]

00:39:42   Letterman like viewer mail cards right [TS]

00:39:47   would read them and say hashtag k [TS]

00:39:50   Seattle how do i find the best with over [TS]

00:39:54   which is the best men's room in the [TS]

00:39:55   space needle and then I would use my own [TS]

00:39:58   knowledge and say you know funny [TS]

00:40:02   none of the restrooms at the Space [TS]

00:40:03   Needle are of the caliber that the [TS]

00:40:07   gentleman is going to require turns out [TS]

00:40:09   but this the restrooms at the you know [TS]

00:40:13   the EMP are cleaned every 15 minutes so [TS]

00:40:17   just hop on over to the EMP you know [TS]

00:40:20   this type of thing where i'm given i'm [TS]

00:40:22   giving advice to people who are coming [TS]

00:40:23   to the city [TS]

00:40:24   ok and over the people following you [TS]

00:40:26   from place to place because they had [TS]

00:40:27   questions uh the there was there was [TS]

00:40:30   less of that but I did have guests [TS]

00:40:32   come up and at one point Jason was one [TS]

00:40:34   of the guests because i kept getting [TS]

00:40:35   these questions like what's the best [TS]

00:40:37   distillery in town where do i go to [TS]

00:40:39   drink Washington wines how what kind of [TS]

00:40:42   brew pub should I and I'm just like I [TS]

00:40:43   don't have any answers to these my [TS]

00:40:45   answer is fuck you go 2a or or even if [TS]

00:40:49   i'm even if I'm not being like flip the [TS]

00:40:52   answer is I don't know I honestly don't [TS]

00:40:54   care if you if you really coming to [TS]

00:40:57   seattle you want to know what the [TS]

00:40:58   distilleries are I presume you can find [TS]

00:40:59   that on the internet but ok I'll try and [TS]

00:41:02   probably doesn't doesn't doesn't sound [TS]

00:41:04   that could come off the back of a truck [TS]

00:41:05   well it's not really like what you do if [TS]

00:41:07   you're like doing tourists videos know [TS]

00:41:10   you want Washington ones yeah they're 75 [TS]

00:41:12   resources for that let me google that [TS]

00:41:16   for help cool it for you but so i kept [TS]

00:41:19   getting these questions so I was like [TS]

00:41:20   you know what let me get my pal Jason up [TS]

00:41:22   here because he's gonna even if he [TS]

00:41:23   doesn't know he's gonna talk like he [TS]

00:41:25   knows and he got up and then when he was [TS]

00:41:28   like I don't know anything about the you [TS]

00:41:29   know brewpubs anymore that's something I [TS]

00:41:31   knew 25 years ago i'm like to worry [TS]

00:41:33   about so we talked about some brew pubs [TS]

00:41:35   that we knew about and yeah I was great [TS]

00:41:40   and you know I actually at one point had [TS]

00:41:41   Tim Burgess my opponent from the from my [TS]

00:41:46   race for seattle city council how [TS]

00:41:47   current sitting city councilman Tim [TS]

00:41:50   Burgess he got up at one point and we [TS]

00:41:52   also the singer for The Charlatans right [TS]

00:41:55   now that's temperatures UK ok [TS]

00:41:57   oh the point we so we you know we traded [TS]

00:42:00   we traded the dozens a little bit and we [TS]

00:42:02   we had some fun I was nice to see Tim [TS]

00:42:05   Burgess again but all my way of saying [TS]

00:42:06   that I was as in all film shoots the [TS]

00:42:11   amount of time that you're up doing that [TS]

00:42:13   you're on camera stuff is dwarfed by the [TS]

00:42:17   amount of time you spend sitting around [TS]

00:42:18   in a trailer with a bunch of its it's [TS]

00:42:20   the load out all over again [TS]

00:42:22   that's right you're back by watching [TS]

00:42:23   Richard Richard Pryor on the video [TS]

00:42:25   yeah so I'm you know I'm talking I'm [TS]

00:42:27   talking to the makeup lady and I'm [TS]

00:42:29   talking to the to the the Wardrobe lady [TS]

00:42:33   and I'm talking to the the lady who is [TS]

00:42:36   the second assistant cameraperson and [TS]

00:42:37   I'm talking to the grip and the other [TS]

00:42:39   grip in the key grip alley boy and in [TS]

00:42:42   talking about all the [TS]

00:42:43   things right everybody it's just like [TS]

00:42:45   rock-and-roll you get a bunch of [TS]

00:42:46   rock-and-roll people in there and right [TS]

00:42:48   away you're telling stories like oh yeah [TS]

00:42:50   did i ever tell you about the time that [TS]

00:42:51   I you know that I met the guy from third [TS]

00:42:53   eye blind in the restroom at the center [TS]

00:42:55   house and lot of ladder is like no way [TS]

00:42:58   I've got a story about that guy I've got [TS]

00:43:00   a story about another guy and pretty [TS]

00:43:02   soon you're just it'sit's the whole [TS]

00:43:04   nature of the entertainment business i [TS]

00:43:06   don't know if this is true in other [TS]

00:43:07   industries [TS]

00:43:08   oh yes its software people get together [TS]

00:43:09   they're just like people people popular [TS]

00:43:12   people know they're there they got their [TS]

00:43:14   own house right so it's the IP next mark [TS]

00:43:18   wahlberg not too long ago the little guy [TS]

00:43:20   is really a smaller the guests [TS]

00:43:22   he's not tall i would I think all act TV [TS]

00:43:24   actors are small or a hit movie is the [TS]

00:43:27   head sizes you this is why you should [TS]

00:43:29   probably be on TV get off the truck and [TS]

00:43:30   on TV that you have very very prominent [TS]

00:43:33   head big head small body is you know TV [TS]

00:43:35   design you're halfway there [TS]

00:43:37   yeah that's right now I don't have time [TS]

00:43:39   there's no small part of me [TS]

00:43:41   they're only small actors but yeah but [TS]

00:43:43   you can always tell an actor is small [TS]

00:43:45   because when they have the romantic [TS]

00:43:47   scene there like three inches taller [TS]

00:43:50   than the than the lead actress [TS]

00:43:53   yeah and of course as we know you cannot [TS]

00:43:57   be a lead actress if you're taller than [TS]

00:43:59   4 11 right or something like that yeah [TS]

00:44:02   what a brand of Tarth right now and of [TS]

00:44:04   torts she's very she's over six feet [TS]

00:44:06   tall [TS]

00:44:07   yeah she's just she's also the storm [TS]

00:44:09   trooper who was the 10 she'sshe's this [TS]

00:44:12   cheesy little trooper [TS]

00:44:13   yeah yeah interesting i love her who's [TS]

00:44:16   the actress who played the press [TS]

00:44:18   secretary in the West Wing Allison [TS]

00:44:20   Janney Allison Janney I want to move [TS]

00:44:22   with her last night she's very tall I [TS]

00:44:23   like her as an actor [TS]

00:44:25   I'll also at this point recommend the [TS]

00:44:26   movie Spy I was that the hilarious one [TS]

00:44:31   well here's the thing i tried watch so [TS]

00:44:33   we watch this little ones like [TS]

00:44:34   Ghostbusters for the second time [TS]

00:44:35   yesterday equally great the second time [TS]

00:44:38   and I thought you know what i should [TS]

00:44:39   give the spy movie a third spin because [TS]

00:44:41   I think I didn't I couldn't make it out [TS]

00:44:43   of the first act because that was ok but [TS]

00:44:46   you get one starring the star of the [TS]

00:44:48   gross yeah [TS]

00:44:49   Sookie from gilmore girls and so big I [TS]

00:44:51   so good it's so good i went to see spy [TS]

00:44:54   first came out because you may know this [TS]

00:44:57   about me [TS]

00:44:58   yeah anything that has the word spine [TS]

00:45:00   I'm sure I will you know it's right [TS]

00:45:02   there on the 10 [TS]

00:45:03   yeah if you if you open the distillery [TS]

00:45:05   didn't mean to take your truck sorry [TS]

00:45:06   about that it's alright but if you open [TS]

00:45:08   the distillery in seattle and called [TS]

00:45:09   it's why i would go in there and drink [TS]

00:45:11   all the booze I'd fall right off the way [TS]

00:45:12   that is like going to cut that ribbon it [TS]

00:45:14   says spy [TS]

00:45:15   yeah maybe there's some spy stuff yeah [TS]

00:45:18   so I went to see the movie Spy and i [TS]

00:45:20   laughed and laughed [TS]

00:45:22   uh sighs funny I thought it was [TS]

00:45:24   hi-larious that guy Paul Feig gets this [TS]

00:45:27   cast of people the same you know some of [TS]

00:45:30   the same like featured people you saw in [TS]

00:45:32   the incredible bridesmaids he's got this [TS]

00:45:35   cast of characters who can do straight [TS]

00:45:37   in a way that's like rose byrne is a [TS]

00:45:39   treasure [TS]

00:45:40   she's so freaking fine yes yes and the [TS]

00:45:43   actress this for whom this movie is a [TS]

00:45:46   star vehicle mentality melissa mccarthy [TS]

00:45:49   i fell in love with her immediately I [TS]

00:45:51   thought that she was both hilarious and [TS]

00:45:53   also great and so I i said this movie [TS]

00:45:57   everything about this movie is done and [TS]

00:45:58   this should be a dumb movie but it is [TS]

00:46:00   not a dumb movie because it is totally [TS]

00:46:02   carried by this tremendous actor and [TS]

00:46:05   also like all the things that are all [TS]

00:46:09   the things that are just on the cusp of [TS]

00:46:11   being really corny and bad on the right [TS]

00:46:14   side of that cusp so it's like haha [TS]

00:46:17   that's pretty close too bad but it's [TS]

00:46:19   actually great like peter serafinowicz [TS]

00:46:21   at whom I adore as this like just this [TS]

00:46:26   side of straight up sexual assault but [TS]

00:46:28   so so funny in that role [TS]

00:46:31   mmm great great parts well so I'm spots [TS]

00:46:35   are you there you came for the spine [TS]

00:46:36   stay for Sookie I came for the spicy [TS]

00:46:38   savory Sookie I don't know what the [TS]

00:46:40   second after that means little girls [TS]

00:46:42   it's really good [TS]

00:46:43   I you know I had a song on Gilmore Girls [TS]

00:46:45   he told me that um I don't know I can't [TS]

00:46:48   but was probably five fire island i'm [TS]

00:46:50   pretty much are pushovers [TS]

00:46:52   well when I don't know that the bump [TS]

00:46:53   bump bump bump song adaptive that which [TS]

00:46:56   can i when i was at a party two days ago [TS]

00:47:00   the guy who owns the guitar store that I [TS]

00:47:02   used to work at many years ago who's you [TS]

00:47:04   know he's like [TS]

00:47:05   he's that style of rock-and-roll where [TS]

00:47:07   he still has a really big pompadour and [TS]

00:47:09   he sells very high-end guitars now [TS]

00:47:11   that's cool and he said I haven't seen [TS]

00:47:13   you guys playing a long time and I was [TS]

00:47:15   like well yeah the long winters haven't [TS]

00:47:16   played in a long time you said the last [TS]

00:47:17   time I want to see you play I really you [TS]

00:47:20   know I really felt like I mean I don't I [TS]

00:47:22   don't say this very often but I really [TS]

00:47:23   felt like there was kind of a Dave [TS]

00:47:25   Matthews five going on man i was like [TS]

00:47:27   what and he said I mean in any kind of [TS]

00:47:29   set that over his shoulder kind of his [TS]

00:47:32   side I mean that's not really my thing [TS]

00:47:34   but i really liked you [TS]

00:47:35   it's like okay you're wrong and then [TS]

00:47:39   your second wrong and then they've been [TS]

00:47:41   through a little insult in there and [TS]

00:47:43   yeah thanks that's thanks for the non [TS]

00:47:45   compliment and he's a good pal but she [TS]

00:47:48   was he trying to communicate with that [TS]

00:47:49   there's a thing about rock and roll and [TS]

00:47:53   I think that he was you know he's always [TS]

00:47:55   been a rock in the like in the eighties [TS]

00:47:59   he was in a lot of hair metal bands hair [TS]

00:48:02   hair rock-and-roll bands but then he [TS]

00:48:05   made the transition when he got into [TS]

00:48:07   selling guitars to realizing that was [TS]

00:48:10   cool was garage rock and garage rock is [TS]

00:48:13   graduation is very seldom going to ever [TS]

00:48:16   sell any records or b or anybody is [TS]

00:48:19   going to care about it but it's also [TS]

00:48:20   always going to be super cool who has [TS]

00:48:23   got its got its cult it's got a call [TS]

00:48:25   right and the the strokes were basically [TS]

00:48:28   garage-rock who became a fairly big band [TS]

00:48:30   for a while but even day were just a big [TS]

00:48:33   indie band The Strokes never know the [TS]

00:48:36   strokes were never like a huge pop band [TS]

00:48:39   but he's he's garage rock is what school [TS]

00:48:45   you know dang and what he was saying i [TS]

00:48:48   think is that he detected that element [TS]

00:48:51   in the long winters that is a little bit [TS]

00:48:53   but there's a tiny tiny tiny element of [TS]

00:48:57   of white dude groove in there just in [TS]

00:49:00   the sense that that all of our pic [TS]

00:49:03   strokes are not downstrokes right guitar [TS]

00:49:05   the garage rock is just tank tank tank [TS]

00:49:08   tank tank tank and every once in a blue [TS]

00:49:10   moon the long winters will go James Gang [TS]

00:49:13   Gang or whatever like i don't disagree [TS]

00:49:16   with that point boy you could have [TS]

00:49:17   picked a better band [TS]

00:49:18   tell ya so when he throws dave matthews [TS]

00:49:21   and it's like you say 40 million bands i [TS]

00:49:24   think that's the nuclear option [TS]

00:49:26   yeah including like Jimi Hendrix or [TS]

00:49:28   whatever I mean there's there's so many [TS]

00:49:30   so many ways that you could have said [TS]

00:49:32   that and so I'm not sure whether he [TS]

00:49:34   wanted to a little bit cut me off at the [TS]

00:49:37   knees [TS]

00:49:38   there's also an element where I feel [TS]

00:49:41   like at the moment when he was at the [TS]

00:49:44   show I did one particular thing that he [TS]

00:49:48   thought dave mathews z and he planted a [TS]

00:49:53   flag in his mind and then that was the [TS]

00:49:55   lab and the flag was the only thing that [TS]

00:49:57   he remembers right he like watered the [TS]

00:49:59   water the ground what happens that you [TS]

00:50:01   print on things like that you know i [TS]

00:50:03   i've told you before the first time i [TS]

00:50:05   heard bone area are not going on da more [TS]

00:50:11   than shapes but I mean bring my heart [TS]

00:50:13   shapes it reminded me of haircut 100 yes [TS]

00:50:16   which makes almost no sense and I wasn't [TS]

00:50:18   intended but to this day I still I still [TS]

00:50:20   here a little bit of love plus 1 and I [TS]

00:50:23   can't even tell you exactly what it is [TS]

00:50:24   but that now that Kim I think about [TS]

00:50:26   about 23 years ago and it still sounds [TS]

00:50:29   like haircut 100 me [TS]

00:50:30   yeah that's fine as I think that I'm [TS]

00:50:32   printed on that but it was one of those [TS]

00:50:34   like well that conversation is over i [TS]

00:50:36   guess i'm going to water back over to [TS]

00:50:38   the BBQ because there's nowhere I can go [TS]

00:50:40   that's them's fighting words and he was [TS]

00:50:42   like and I think he recognized you know [TS]

00:50:44   he tried to laugh it off like her but [TS]

00:50:48   but the damage was done but you know [TS]

00:50:49   he's a guy in his fifties and where you [TS]

00:50:51   know we've been friends for years sure [TS]

00:50:53   it's not a problem but uh but the the [TS]

00:50:57   point why that's very unusual that i [TS]

00:51:01   lose a point maybe I'm losing my memory [TS]

00:51:03   oh no so i was talking to my makeup late [TS]

00:51:07   right [TS]

00:51:09   physical bond that we're back on the [TS]

00:51:10   truck now on my TV show with who and she [TS]

00:51:13   and we started like a lot of production [TS]

00:51:15   people in the northwest want to talk [TS]

00:51:17   about a twin peaks because a lot of them [TS]

00:51:20   work on twin peaks and B they want to [TS]

00:51:23   talk about [TS]

00:51:25   the TV show Baked Alaska be the one [TS]

00:51:29   where the northern exposure northern [TS]

00:51:31   exposure thing and because they all [TS]

00:51:34   worked on northern exposure the ones [TS]

00:51:35   that have been around for that took [TS]

00:51:37   place in Alaska but was alaska right it [TS]

00:51:40   was supposed to be in Alaska it was said [TS]

00:51:42   in her was filmed in Seattle ok oh ok [TS]

00:51:45   and a and in fact when it was on the air [TS]

00:51:49   there was a there was a radio show in [TS]

00:51:51   Anchorage a call-in radio show that [TS]

00:51:53   would happen every friday morning after [TS]

00:51:56   this after northern exposure aired which [TS]

00:51:59   I guess was on thursday night and people [TS]

00:52:01   would call in and they would all talk [TS]

00:52:03   about all the inaccuracies of the [TS]

00:52:05   program i'll play they would say like [TS]

00:52:07   there was a red throated Warbler in the [TS]

00:52:11   show and there that Alaska is outside of [TS]

00:52:13   the range of the red-throated Warbler [TS]

00:52:14   and they people would say like that's [TS]

00:52:17   not the kind of grass that would be [TS]

00:52:18   growing in Homer was in just like oh my [TS]

00:52:20   god people that's not the kind of crap [TS]

00:52:23   that would be growing in Homer yeah [TS]

00:52:25   people would say that type of thing like [TS]

00:52:27   that would never have asked that you [TS]

00:52:29   know that guy would have been thrown in [TS]

00:52:31   the in the water but they were so I of [TS]

00:52:35   course was like you worked on northern [TS]

00:52:38   exposure and my makeup lady was like [TS]

00:52:40   yeah I was that i worked on the show [TS]

00:52:41   from the beginning the entire run and i [TS]

00:52:43   said okay let's let's get to the bottom [TS]

00:52:45   of this was john corbett nice [TS]

00:52:47   yes John Corbett was really nice ok [TS]

00:52:50   that's good that's good news i remember [TS]

00:52:53   at the time John Corbett was kind of [TS]

00:52:55   hanging around the grunge scene a little [TS]

00:52:56   bit Lykke a heat kinda post part owner [TS]

00:53:00   of a club or something he come down he [TS]

00:53:01   wanted to be in the scene [TS]

00:53:03   oh and i remember a lot of the grungy [TS]

00:53:05   assholes will be like hit in Hollywood [TS]

00:53:09   guy with but you know me remember sure [TS]

00:53:12   but it turns out John Corbett really [TS]

00:53:15   according to the makeup lady and I think [TS]

00:53:17   she would know my budget in Turner well [TS]

00:53:18   this is the thing right i had a lot of [TS]

00:53:20   thing for her just edging around yeah [TS]

00:53:23   you don't go straight to Jeter will talk [TS]

00:53:24   about Janine Turner first you want to [TS]

00:53:26   walk around and say like what [TS]

00:53:27   ask someone about a holy banker was he [TS]

00:53:30   like yeah what about this time what'd ya [TS]

00:53:31   that's interesting names again more [TS]

00:53:33   games anyway what time and everybody's [TS]

00:53:35   like yeah she's just said after one [TS]

00:53:37   after the other like all they're just [TS]

00:53:40   wonderful just a just the most wonderful [TS]

00:53:41   cast the wonderfullest crew everything [TS]

00:53:45   about the show was wonderful and I [TS]

00:53:47   thought I was like whoa what about [TS]

00:53:50   Janine Turner no no I'm like I you know [TS]

00:53:57   I know that I know this I know this [TS]

00:53:59   already i know this already but i want [TS]

00:54:03   to hear say it hard things [TS]

00:54:04   Oh for a long long time even when they [TS]

00:54:08   were filming the show people would come [TS]

00:54:10   and people come in sit at the bar and [TS]

00:54:13   I'd be wiping a class with a towel and [TS]

00:54:16   say what can I get your partner and they [TS]

00:54:19   say give me a double and it's a hard day [TS]

00:54:21   and they say a working on northern [TS]

00:54:26   exposure might go tell me more [TS]

00:54:28   how's that bill now that bill Corbett [TS]

00:54:30   made salaries nice guy [TS]

00:54:33   what's so uh so what you have going to [TS]

00:54:35   put the put the double in front of them [TS]

00:54:37   they just shoot it down then they'd say [TS]

00:54:40   that Janine Turner em I'd go I'd lean in [TS]

00:54:44   yeah I'm here for a partner because i [TS]

00:54:49   had a real thing for her she was she's [TS]

00:54:52   got she's got she takes all your boxes [TS]

00:54:55   yes she does she's a very John Roderick [TS]

00:54:57   a type of person including the clear the [TS]

00:55:02   clear high maintenance pneus uh-huh for [TS]

00:55:04   the just exudes right out of her butt so [TS]

00:55:07   I've heard this for years and now here's [TS]

00:55:09   her makeup lady I'm like lay it on me [TS]

00:55:12   o.o awful just all the stories all the [TS]

00:55:17   terrible stories that you hear about [TS]

00:55:18   terrible actors doing things where they [TS]

00:55:20   they hold up the whole filming because [TS]

00:55:25   they don't like the nail nail polish you [TS]

00:55:28   know a lot of like doing things on [TS]

00:55:31   purpose that caused all the tech staff [TS]

00:55:34   to have to stay and other for hours [TS]

00:55:37   because of something you know like spill [TS]

00:55:40   campaigned on the set [TS]

00:55:41   kick it over because you're mad whatever [TS]

00:55:43   just awful awful awful off allegedly [TS]

00:55:47   just well yeah right [TS]

00:55:49   allegedly except then my makeup lady [TS]

00:55:51   says everything what she's been doing [TS]

00:55:53   lately and i was like i said no i [TS]

00:55:54   haven't really followed her career maybe [TS]

00:55:56   I should google her like I did I did who [TS]

00:56:01   did I google not very long ago [TS]

00:56:03   marilu henner all maryland her like I [TS]

00:56:06   was so in love with mention the colon [TS]

00:56:08   cleansing yeah and then I googled it was [TS]

00:56:10   and she had this pretty booming business [TS]

00:56:12   of like I no swallowing copper pennies [TS]

00:56:16   in order to get your colon to you know [TS]

00:56:19   believe in raw yeah right that's all [TS]

00:56:23   kinds of toxins in there [TS]

00:56:24   yeah and the penny leave a penny leach [TS]

00:56:26   the toxins out because just the toxins [TS]

00:56:28   because it because of free radicals [TS]

00:56:29   she's helping keep the lines right if [TS]

00:56:31   you it you know what happens is a [TS]

00:56:33   one-electron who causes metastasis it's [TS]

00:56:36   called the call one hit three the [TS]

00:56:38   one-hit ball takes exposure to that one [TS]

00:56:40   electron just a northern exposure to [TS]

00:56:42   that one electron and you poop super [TS]

00:56:44   hard and he's like a bicycle inner tube [TS]

00:56:46   comes out and get a coffee to do coffee [TS]

00:56:49   enema what happens is that the penny [TS]

00:56:51   makes an amalgam with all of the mercury [TS]

00:56:55   oh you're saying it's science it's [TS]

00:56:57   science [TS]

00:56:58   so it's calistri it's physics it's a [TS]

00:57:00   it's new monastics new monastics isn't [TS]

00:57:04   its alchemist except alchemist across [TS]

00:57:07   our crumbs brother used to swallow [TS]

00:57:08   string of pit [TS]

00:57:09   oh that's one of my favorite movies and [TS]

00:57:11   yeah right you could I saw him one of my [TS]

00:57:14   first trip to San Francisco I was [TS]

00:57:15   walking down the street and I did like a [TS]

00:57:17   quadruple take no it's really max right [TS]

00:57:20   is out in the world [TS]

00:57:21   oh yeah he would sit with his little [TS]

00:57:22   bacon bowl and it was always like that's [TS]

00:57:25   totally arc I think it's max no max is [TS]

00:57:27   the other brother was gonna do a little [TS]

00:57:29   brother did you ever know about the [TS]

00:57:31   could snort a piece of the spaghetti and [TS]

00:57:34   then pull it out the back of their mouth [TS]

00:57:35   now I I've heard that that's the thing [TS]

00:57:37   that can happen [TS]

00:57:38   I've seen it I've seen it okay you're [TS]

00:57:39   saying and it's not like it's not like [TS]

00:57:41   the popcorn box this is like a thing [TS]

00:57:42   no no I there was a I had a really good [TS]

00:57:44   friend they could snort a piece of [TS]

00:57:46   spaghetti and then reach into the back [TS]

00:57:47   of his throat and we'll find the other [TS]

00:57:50   and and pull it out and then floss his [TS]

00:57:52   brain with a long piece of spaghetti [TS]

00:57:55   which was the absolute top bar trick I [TS]

00:57:58   ever saw and frankly Merlin I tried it [TS]

00:58:02   many times i would think the spaghetti i [TS]

00:58:04   would try and snorted into my nose [TS]

00:58:06   because i really wanted to have the [TS]

00:58:08   ability to do this I can do this Chevy [TS]

00:58:10   the Chevy Chase cigarette inside the [TS]

00:58:13   mouth flip huh [TS]

00:58:15   and your mouth is big enough for that [TS]

00:58:17   yeah I flipper flipper a cigarette in [TS]

00:58:18   there found that blow smoke out of the [TS]

00:58:21   filter and then i can flip it back [TS]

00:58:23   around outside i was very cool trick but [TS]

00:58:26   I could never gonna have the same [TS]

00:58:27   respect today for those kinds of tricks [TS]

00:58:28   the bar tricks right you just started [TS]

00:58:32   doing nasal irrigation so I can just [TS]

00:58:34   tell you that when you do the nasal area [TS]

00:58:35   the sinus irrigation it comes out the [TS]

00:58:38   other nostril and it comes out of your [TS]

00:58:39   mouth so I believe there's a spaghetti [TS]

00:58:41   pathway for sure there was and I mean [TS]

00:58:44   it's just enough spaghetti is just soft [TS]

00:58:46   enough i think that if you break it in [TS]

00:58:47   there it's gonna find its way to your [TS]

00:58:49   tummy but to do the trick you have to [TS]

00:58:52   keep a little bit al dente you get like [TS]

00:58:53   a number two but i'm not a noodle you [TS]

00:58:55   get you get a look thin or a full [TS]

00:58:57   spaghetti [TS]

00:58:58   do you want to do like a look at link [TS]

00:59:00   weaning know you wouldn't want to win [TS]

00:59:02   you wouldn't want to be too soft but you [TS]

00:59:04   seem like the type of guy that used to [TS]

00:59:05   have a lot of zippo tricks did you have [TS]

00:59:07   a simple trick I had some zippo tricks [TS]

00:59:09   we we mentioned this a bit i had a few [TS]

00:59:12   things I could do I was very lonely us [TS]

00:59:16   on loan is the wrong word lonesome like [TS]

00:59:19   I I was you know kind of a lonesome [TS]

00:59:21   latchkey right and I would practice [TS]

00:59:26   things a lot I could do I made up lots [TS]

00:59:29   of skills for myself and then I would [TS]

00:59:30   practice them for weeks [TS]

00:59:32   knife-throwing oh yeah Oh knife-throwing [TS]

00:59:34   Oh throwing all things [TS]

00:59:35   oh yeah oh yeah but i would come up with [TS]

00:59:38   games like could I bank this ball off of [TS]

00:59:40   these two walls the same way three times [TS]

00:59:43   over on that is some lonely kid stuff i [TS]

00:59:45   had so that games that were designed for [TS]

00:59:47   one lonely child I don't but you never [TS]

00:59:49   worked on close up magic no Ricky Jay [TS]

00:59:53   was a lonely kid who just got shot apart [TS]

00:59:54   but then he found a problem you know [TS]

00:59:57   that before the general cards for [TS]

00:59:57   that before the general cards for [TS]

01:00:00   45 years and now he's on the field and I [TS]

01:00:02   can't get rid of him [TS]

01:00:03   how did I want but so apparently janeane [TS]

01:00:08   garofalo or whatever yeah and honest [TS]

01:00:10   allegedly allegedly also true janeane [TS]

01:00:12   garofalo oh I hear things about her [TS]

01:00:15   see I don't just make the site were just [TS]

01:00:16   being a bag on women as well there's [TS]

01:00:18   lots of terrible man i just i don't want [TS]

01:00:19   to leave that impression [TS]

01:00:20   leonardo dicaprio you think he's [TS]

01:00:22   high-maintenance probably you keep [TS]

01:00:25   stating really young models from Sweden [TS]

01:00:28   wow that's not a good look but uh [TS]

01:00:30   apparently Janine is a rabid right-wing [TS]

01:00:36   a cheater [TS]

01:00:39   Janine Turner know who had briefly a [TS]

01:00:42   radio show where she was like a shouty a [TS]

01:00:45   like from easter she appeared with sara [TS]

01:00:51   hammond hanging for sarah palin yeah [TS]

01:00:53   dyed her hair blonde according to my [TS]

01:00:55   makeup lady alcohol and was like shouty [TS]

01:00:59   sarah palin shouter and I can only guess [TS]

01:01:03   is like thrilled about the Trump and so [TS]

01:01:09   like I think she was always like that [TS]

01:01:12   and now has become you know more and [TS]

01:01:14   more like that she's a rancher she has [TS]

01:01:17   longhorn cattle [TS]

01:01:19   oh yeah she has been engaged to alec [TS]

01:01:22   baldwin and she has data troy aikman [TS]

01:01:24   Mikhail Baryshnikov in sylvester [TS]

01:01:26   stallone oh so my makeup lady says [TS]

01:01:29   that's allegedly literally awesome [TS]

01:01:32   she said she always wanted to have a [TS]

01:01:34   baby with a sports person [TS]

01:01:35   oh that's what my makeup lady said that [TS]

01:01:38   ejects John whatever baby with a sports [TS]

01:01:40   person [TS]

01:01:41   Wow eugenics how well i mean we all kind [TS]

01:01:45   of like are raised our generation like [TS]

01:01:47   most before us for raised to think about [TS]

01:01:49   like what like the stock of like you go [TS]

01:01:52   to marry well you gotta marry expressing [TS]

01:01:54   right you think she's trying to make a [TS]

01:01:56   new baby [TS]

01:01:57   mm-maybe so I mean you know there's [TS]

01:01:59   nobody wants to do when she just down to [TS]

01:02:01   clown with athletes or was she looking [TS]

01:02:03   for something more long-term was like [TS]

01:02:04   she wanted offspring that could throw a [TS]

01:02:06   spiral I don't know I you know when you [TS]

01:02:11   think about athletes on the lives [TS]

01:02:13   they lead and particularly like [TS]

01:02:15   successful ones and the sort of what [TS]

01:02:20   would seem to be like the relationship [TS]

01:02:21   between athletes and their why you don't [TS]

01:02:23   talk about male athletes and their wives [TS]

01:02:25   telling typically it you know it all [TS]

01:02:27   kind of falls into a pattern like the [TS]

01:02:28   baseball stadium with the live section [TS]

01:02:31   kind of pans over there and you're like [TS]

01:02:33   oh I see it's a kind of baseball wife [TS]

01:02:35   job almost I don't got none of it I [TS]

01:02:39   don't know anything about it I don't [TS]

01:02:41   look at it and see anything that [TS]

01:02:43   resembles anything that i know so i have [TS]

01:02:46   to just put it into a category of like I [TS]

01:02:47   don't know what it's like to be a bass [TS]

01:02:49   player baseball player [TS]

01:02:50   yeah I don't know what it's like to be [TS]

01:02:51   married to a baseball player and I [TS]

01:02:52   really don't know what it's like to be a [TS]

01:02:54   retired baseball player who's living in [TS]

01:02:57   a house in Florida has to be yeah and [TS]

01:03:02   it's got a really big atrium or like it [TS]

01:03:04   that you walk into the entrance hall and [TS]

01:03:06   its really tall there's a staircase that [TS]

01:03:08   kind of curves around and there's maybe [TS]

01:03:10   a table with some sort of statue [TS]

01:03:12   oh yeah I can see that in the instance [TS]

01:03:15   foyer yeah the four year and it's not [TS]

01:03:16   quite a statue of a of a of a guy love [TS]

01:03:20   like her [TS]

01:03:20   Hercules rat was holding the world and [TS]

01:03:23   the world has neon sign on it that says [TS]

01:03:25   the world is yours not quite that but it [TS]

01:03:28   is some cuts that you probably don't [TS]

01:03:30   have a study with your awards in it you [TS]

01:03:33   got some photographs of hank aaron [TS]

01:03:34   McMansion any kind of oh yeah yanno [TS]

01:03:38   McMansion mm which are think our [TS]

01:03:41   three-car Garage probably get 35 the [TS]

01:03:44   cargo you do you get a boat you get a [TS]

01:03:46   fucking boat you get a boat or in the [TS]

01:03:48   case of john travolta you get your own [TS]

01:03:49   727 437 every have you seen his house [TS]

01:03:54   that seems very costly he bought a house [TS]

01:03:57   all he bought one of those because they [TS]

01:04:00   are housing developments for pilots we [TS]

01:04:03   wear these when I was in junior high [TS]

01:04:04   there's no area where you could land [TS]

01:04:06   your plane on this little strip and [TS]

01:04:07   drive it down the road to your house [TS]

01:04:09   where you can put in your own playing [TS]

01:04:10   garage [TS]

01:04:11   that's right dang i think they call it [TS]

01:04:12   at play garage and a [TS]

01:04:16   so John Travolta has one of these [TS]

01:04:18   massive compound where he can park his [TS]

01:04:21   own like proper sized jet I don't know [TS]

01:04:25   which model of Boeing jet he has but [TS]

01:04:28   it's a let's see here i think i can [TS]

01:04:30   google that for you [TS]

01:04:34   he's so-so from from from the air you [TS]

01:04:38   can eat you just fly over and it's like [TS]

01:04:40   a giant McMansion and it's got his plane [TS]

01:04:45   parked out front his jumbo jet about it [TS]

01:04:47   it's not a jumbo but it's like that's it [TS]

01:04:50   that's a that's a consumer passenger jet [TS]

01:04:52   its okay its path it's meant to have [TS]

01:04:54   probably over 200 people on it right [TS]

01:04:56   with the 707 so he's getting so it's a [TS]

01:04:58   vintage he's got a vintage jet and I bet [TS]

01:05:01   that my pal whose job it is to outfit a [TS]

01:05:05   super you know boeing business jet with [TS]

01:05:08   cool interiors with hot tubs and stuff [TS]

01:05:11   hmm i bet you he's done voltage at night [TS]

01:05:14   but it's very nice in there i have a [TS]

01:05:16   friend whom you've met who has been a [TS]

01:05:21   handler for visiting celebrities and [TS]

01:05:25   luminaries and she has got some goddamn [TS]

01:05:29   stories about John Travolta none of [TS]

01:05:30   which i will share on the air except to [TS]

01:05:32   say I bet the lot of interesting stuff [TS]

01:05:33   happens on this point predators she had [TS]

01:05:35   a lot of first first hand [TS]

01:05:37   super-creepy travel to information [TS]

01:05:38   allegedly what I want to hear this [TS]

01:05:40   offline i had a friend whose job it was [TS]

01:05:43   to fill up drew barrymore's ipod wow did [TS]

01:05:48   he look at craigslist kind of thing how [TS]

01:05:49   to get any good job like that [TS]

01:05:51   well you know she's music supervisor and [TS]

01:05:53   you know I knew a lot about cool music [TS]

01:05:57   and worked in bars and clubs it was a [TS]

01:05:59   booker you know there's that there's [TS]

01:06:01   that class of people in the rock [TS]

01:06:03   business who I have all been booking [TS]

01:06:05   agents club a club managers music [TS]

01:06:09   supervisor insiders they know you DJ not [TS]

01:06:12   having one specific title they know how [TS]

01:06:14   things go [TS]

01:06:15   they know how things work they know how [TS]

01:06:16   to keep the lines right they know how [TS]

01:06:17   they know how things work and then [TS]

01:06:19   within that they they keep up right like [TS]

01:06:22   that when they were in college it was [TS]

01:06:24   really easy they were just part of the [TS]

01:06:25   college radio station they brought bands [TS]

01:06:27   to their school [TS]

01:06:28   they were really really into music [TS]

01:06:30   because they and you were this guy you [TS]

01:06:32   just loved music and you stay but it [TS]

01:06:34   definitely stopped and then at a certain [TS]

01:06:36   point it stops but the only probably [TS]

01:06:37   about 10 years ago i'm like you're very [TS]

01:06:40   current I was just looking at my friend [TS]

01:06:42   and you know anybody out andy bailey [TS]

01:06:43   said this website called up coming down [TS]

01:06:46   to work we could go and say what shows [TS]

01:06:47   you're going to and stuff like that it [TS]

01:06:49   was way too like a social media site for [TS]

01:06:50   you know live events like shows [TS]

01:06:53   oh my god I can't believe how much stuff [TS]

01:06:55   I used to do em even though I'm just [TS]

01:06:58   saying like up until pretty much well [TS]

01:06:59   you can guess when it ended 1260 shoot [TS]

01:07:02   six rows a week [TS]

01:07:03   I mean I don't know if we went to one a [TS]

01:07:05   week but i think we definitely got 25 a [TS]

01:07:07   month at least I mean there's a lot of [TS]

01:07:09   nights we were in a multiple multiple [TS]

01:07:11   nights a week getting you guys like to [TS]

01:07:12   party you stayed upright until the bar [TS]

01:07:14   and we would go rock and roll but yet [TS]

01:07:17   but I'm John seems like you don't like [TS]

01:07:19   what you're describing here is that at a [TS]

01:07:20   point you can just atmospherically stay [TS]

01:07:23   up-to-date just by being young but it is [TS]

01:07:26   an effort to keep up after that you [TS]

01:07:28   don't really want it you gotta keep up [TS]

01:07:30   and also like like a lot of things your [TS]

01:07:34   knowledge has an expiration date on [TS]

01:07:38   bright like like it used to be used to [TS]

01:07:40   think that this was the moment this was [TS]

01:07:42   the mistake I used to make a lot which [TS]

01:07:44   was that he was always want to know [TS]

01:07:46   about your ability to detect 1956 Les [TS]

01:07:48   Paul that's exactly right [TS]

01:07:50   people are always going to care about [TS]

01:07:52   first editions or they're always going [TS]

01:07:54   to care about vintage glasses or they're [TS]

01:07:56   always going to care about something [TS]

01:07:58   that I care about and then you realize [TS]

01:08:00   like Oh everybody in 1994 really cared [TS]

01:08:03   about vintage classes because that was [TS]

01:08:06   what we were doing but now warby parker [TS]

01:08:09   makes any kind of glasses that you want [TS]

01:08:11   they all look like vintage classes and [TS]

01:08:13   their hundred dollars each and go fuck [TS]

01:08:14   yourself you know like nobody cares that [TS]

01:08:17   i'm walking around in a pair of 1959 [TS]

01:08:19   fashion like he's saying you seem like [TS]

01:08:22   basically the status like a beer can [TS]

01:08:24   collect at this point exactly that's [TS]

01:08:26   garbage right I got 40 cans of Billy [TS]

01:08:29   beer ninety thousand dollars for him in [TS]

01:08:32   1986 gonna get them again [TS]

01:08:35   I feel like what's Billy beer whatever a [TS]

01:08:38   what's Billy bears hardest beard again [TS]

01:08:41   nobody cares man so uh so yeah like [TS]

01:08:45   that's that's that it with music [TS]

01:08:47   supervisors if you stop if you stop for [TS]

01:08:51   a second [TS]

01:08:52   you're completely irrelevant like three [TS]

01:08:55   months later but so there are Hollywood [TS]

01:08:58   people who want to be and I think drew [TS]

01:09:01   Barrymore is probably not one of these [TS]

01:09:03   people now but she was 10 years ago but [TS]

01:09:06   their Hollywood people who are like I if [TS]

01:09:07   I roll up on some place and I had my [TS]

01:09:10   ipod over and say play some you know [TS]

01:09:13   play some random selections from this [TS]

01:09:14   while I'm in the club you want that [TS]

01:09:17   music to be like right on the bleeding [TS]

01:09:19   edge and if your Hollywood actor you [TS]

01:09:22   probably can't keep that current so you [TS]

01:09:24   hire somebody to be your social media [TS]

01:09:27   consult or I'm sorry about your social [TS]

01:09:30   media but you're going to be like your [TS]

01:09:31   personal music supervisor supervisor [TS]

01:09:33   they're probably also put movies on [TS]

01:09:36   their you know Paul Allen has like six [TS]

01:09:39   librarians why he has he has an entire [TS]

01:09:43   library staff and i am actually pretty [TS]

01:09:47   close to one of his librarians and she [TS]

01:09:51   has been his librarian or over a decade [TS]

01:09:54   and she flies around the world so that [TS]

01:09:59   it's like Paul is going to be at Lake [TS]

01:10:02   Como on Tuesday she needs to fly there [TS]

01:10:07   on saturday and make sure that all of [TS]

01:10:09   the media in his library at Lake Como is [TS]

01:10:14   what he wants what he's into right now I [TS]

01:10:16   get it I get it so that when he gets [TS]

01:10:19   there but it also has to be somewhat [TS]

01:10:20   comprehensive so if he says he gets a [TS]

01:10:23   wild hair and decides that he wants like [TS]

01:10:25   once and future king there better be a [TS]

01:10:26   copy there may be a copy that right [TS]

01:10:28   exactly like if he if he says like I you [TS]

01:10:31   know I want to hear a ray charles play [TS]

01:10:34   the want to see he hit somebody better [TS]

01:10:38   be able to get that to him right away [TS]

01:10:39   that but so you know she's there in his [TS]

01:10:43   house curating his collection making [TS]

01:10:45   sure his library both digital and really [TS]

01:10:48   and real-world are all like [TS]

01:10:51   sorted uh-huh but and she's been doing [TS]

01:10:53   this for over a decade but she claims [TS]

01:10:57   only two have met him personally like [TS]

01:11:00   two times but she has a sense of his [TS]

01:11:02   taste [TS]

01:11:03   yeah she's his librarian or one of the [TS]

01:11:05   very one meter having not met him it [TS]

01:11:07   wasn't like she was going out in college [TS]

01:11:09   or something she just she just knows [TS]

01:11:11   yeah she's she knows him she's you know [TS]

01:11:14   she's part of his hive mind like Paul [TS]

01:11:19   Allen is at the center of it and he has [TS]

01:11:20   a thousand people around him that [TS]

01:11:22   function as extensions of his mind and [TS]

01:11:24   imagination but like she's only met him [TS]

01:11:27   in receiving lines basically where he [TS]

01:11:29   walks through his Vulcan and shake [TS]

01:11:31   everybody's hand but she's in his office [TS]

01:11:34   30 minutes before he arrives like and [TS]

01:11:39   she's not she's not the one that's like [TS]

01:11:40   refreshing the white lilies she's up [TS]

01:11:43   digitally you know she's like she's in [TS]

01:11:46   the matrix seeing all the all the [TS]

01:11:49   material [TS]

01:11:50   uh-huh and that's a crazy job you know [TS]

01:11:53   hundreds particularly since Poland is [TS]

01:11:55   renowned for firing everybody that's [TS]

01:11:57   close to him and she is like insulated [TS]

01:12:00   by one level person so he is so Paul [TS]

01:12:03   Allen's Chief Librarian there have been [TS]

01:12:05   15 of them because he fires them the [TS]

01:12:08   child is she's his media librarian or [TS]

01:12:12   his you know she's the one that actually [TS]

01:12:14   is doing some library in this some you [TS]

01:12:18   know she's not administering she is [TS]

01:12:20   functioning as a library she does she's [TS]

01:12:22   a practitioner she's not just [TS]

01:12:23   implementing yeah so she is a so she's [TS]

01:12:27   somewhat insulated because if he comes [TS]

01:12:29   in and once and future king isn't there [TS]

01:12:31   he fires the administrator and she's [TS]

01:12:37   just like I actually had it I had it [TS]

01:12:40   here the administrator just told me not [TS]

01:12:43   to you know not to put our dogs from his [TS]

01:12:46   ipad advisor could explain a little bit [TS]

01:12:52   why you left your last position on you [TS]

01:12:55   know you know James on guard at the [TS]

01:12:57   octopus which we were you know 60 miles [TS]

01:13:01   of the Amazon making Peter Gabriel [TS]

01:13:03   record [TS]

01:13:04   and he wanted to be said I want to watch [TS]

01:13:06   Zardoz wasn't there no way to get that [TS]

01:13:15   that was abrupt em [TS]