Roderick on the Line

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00:00:20 ◼   ► hello hi John [TS]

00:00:23 ◼   ► mm-hmm hi Merlin how's it going good [TS]

00:00:28 ◼   ► yeah yeah super sorry I'm late oh you [TS]

00:00:32 ◼   ► know it happens [TS]

00:00:34 ◼   ► yeah week well you know being literally [TS]

00:00:39 ◼   ► Shepherd picture out about being late is [TS]

00:00:43 ◼   ► yeah I would love to hear this [TS]

00:00:45 ◼   ► yeah it's just you know it's time is a [TS]

00:00:49 ◼   ► flat circle [TS]

00:00:50 ◼   ► oh I see ya time time is a bubble is [TS]

00:00:56 ◼   ► that what it is time I bubble always [TS]

00:00:58 ◼   ► here at nine fifty-nine time he gets [TS]

00:01:02 ◼   ► time then [TS]

00:01:04 ◼   ► yeah tiny that's a lot of people see how [TS]

00:01:08 ◼   ► you doing you doin time after time if [TS]

00:01:09 ◼   ► you have to do stuff is just the usual [TS]

00:01:11 ◼   ► no no I had stuff to do [TS]

00:01:13 ◼   ► well where's yeah there was just a [TS]

00:01:15 ◼   ► little bit of stuff is exciting episode [TS]

00:01:19 ◼   ► this is episode 207 of the show 2007 27 [TS]

00:01:24 ◼   ► was my laundry number when I was in [TS]

00:01:26 ◼   ► military school [TS]

00:01:27 ◼   ► do you remember the mailbox number when [TS]

00:01:31 ◼   ► you're in college I think so yeah [TS]

00:01:34 ◼   ► oh my gosh you know you these certain [TS]

00:01:35 ◼   ► three-digit numbers just float around i [TS]

00:01:36 ◼   ► want to say actually you know what I've [TS]

00:01:38 ◼   ► got the door from it right here I stole [TS]

00:01:39 ◼   ► it when i left school [TS]

00:01:41 ◼   ► hey yeah I stole the door off my up [TS]

00:01:45 ◼   ► yeah it still has it still has a sticker [TS]

00:01:48 ◼   ► that you saw it still gets a little old [TS]

00:01:50 ◼   ► timey door with the window [TS]

00:01:51 ◼   ► oh yeah still got the JR Bob sticker on [TS]

00:01:53 ◼   ► it and i think it still has the Columbia [TS]

00:01:55 ◼   ► House ticker for you tues war [TS]

00:01:57 ◼   ► wow so what number was find out hang on [TS]

00:02:00 ◼   ► to [TS]

00:02:03 ◼   ► doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo [TS]

00:02:06 ◼   ► doo-doo-doo-doo-doo food [TS]

00:02:09 ◼   ► ok this is the lesson of this listeners [TS]

00:02:12 ◼   ► is to steal the things that mean [TS]

00:02:14 ◼   ► something to you anymore to me you know [TS]

00:02:16 ◼   ► what I should have said because I was [TS]

00:02:17 ◼   ► right 289 289 yep 289 also a great Ford [TS]

00:02:24 ◼   ► engine is is that right yeah there's a [TS]

00:02:26 ◼   ► for the 289 was a hot rod ford motor [TS]

00:02:30 ◼   ► Oh rod to eat on the 289 it was the [TS]

00:02:33 ◼   ► cubic inches John yeah it doesn't seem [TS]

00:02:35 ◼   ► like a big motor compared to like 350 [TS]

00:02:38 ◼   ► for a 456 or a 456 but a 289 455 456 [TS]

00:02:44 ◼   ► whatever double-barrel heavy heavy ya [TS]

00:02:48 ◼   ► comin ya ni want to bore your hammies [TS]

00:02:51 ◼   ► you gotta help me and the Hemings mhm [TS]

00:02:54 ◼   ► Hemmings is where you would sell a Hemi [TS]

00:02:56 ◼   ► yeah you put some thrush on the [TS]

00:02:57 ◼   ► transmission [TS]

00:02:58 ◼   ► yeah give will put a little thrush put [TS]

00:03:00 ◼   ► some armor all on the tires got to roll [TS]

00:03:03 ◼   ► got it doesn't rush from looking [TS]

00:03:04 ◼   ► railings are you a big balance Sebastian [TS]

00:03:06 ◼   ► fan i remember when balanced Bastion [TS]

00:03:10 ◼   ► took over the world if the first i would [TS]

00:03:13 ◼   ► call them the first thuy isn't they [TS]

00:03:16 ◼   ► aren't the first we call them more mokey [TS]

00:03:17 ◼   ► when I think thuy I think of Cub or I [TS]

00:03:20 ◼   ► think of you like maybe the raincoats a [TS]

00:03:23 ◼   ► little bit boy covering the Redcoats [TS]

00:03:25 ◼   ► room you know couples cup is everyone's [TS]

00:03:28 ◼   ► your friend in New York City now I don't [TS]

00:03:31 ◼   ► know why I would sing a cup song as John [TS]

00:03:33 ◼   ► Flansburg didn't originally did that [TS]

00:03:36 ◼   ► song it's virtually tuneless it's [TS]

00:03:37 ◼   ► delightful [TS]

00:03:38 ◼   ► well you know that's a that's a John [TS]

00:03:41 ◼   ► Flansburg of the feature that's oh the [TS]

00:03:44 ◼   ► in which part the tunas well no no no no [TS]

00:03:47 ◼   ► but that's what that song is a big [TS]

00:03:49 ◼   ► feature for him in there set I I can't [TS]

00:03:51 ◼   ► imagine anybody else having written that [TS]

00:03:53 ◼   ► song by him and alas it was not well [TS]

00:03:56 ◼   ► that's a good note good a song it's a [TS]

00:03:58 ◼   ► drunken a song [TS]

00:03:59 ◼   ► yeah it's a good the ass of that song as [TS]

00:04:01 ◼   ► good as a good asked song only go back [TS]

00:04:04 ◼   ► in the stock balance best yeah don't [TS]

00:04:06 ◼   ► Sebastian I got into them on there like [TS]

00:04:07 ◼   ► second or third I think it got in on the [TS]

00:04:10 ◼   ► on the green album [TS]

00:04:11 ◼   ► yeah it wasn't a great one of the red [TS]

00:04:13 ◼   ► one but I know love the gray one in the [TS]

00:04:15 ◼   ► red one but that doesn't really seem [TS]

00:04:16 ◼   ► like your kind of music I was you know I [TS]

00:04:22 ◼   ► was let's let's say I was balancing [TS]

00:04:24 ◼   ► Bastion adjacent oh sure [TS]

00:04:26 ◼   ► and really what happens yeah yeah so I [TS]

00:04:30 ◼   ► was I was you know I was feeling that I [TS]

00:04:33 ◼   ► was feeling that their songs there's [TS]

00:04:35 ◼   ► something they do a thing that i love [TS]

00:04:36 ◼   ► you know me you know I love a mid-tempo [TS]

00:04:38 ◼   ► power pop song do i do know that we're [TS]

00:04:41 ◼   ► if you do it too much above it [TS]

00:04:43 ◼   ► boat becomes not becomes like a cheap [TS]

00:04:44 ◼   ► trick song well some future cases too [TS]

00:04:46 ◼   ► but like one reason i love a good [TS]

00:04:48 ◼   ► teenage fanclub song it's like a [TS]

00:04:49 ◼   ► mid-tempo song that's exactly what I was [TS]

00:04:51 ◼   ► about to say teenage fanclub yeah you [TS]

00:04:53 ◼   ► take something like everything flows or [TS]

00:04:55 ◼   ► using a good [TS]

00:04:56 ◼   ► mid-tempo pop so if everything's flows [TS]

00:04:58 ◼   ► were any faster it would not be my [TS]

00:05:00 ◼   ► favorite song first favorite song the [TS]

00:05:01 ◼   ► nineties now with on special needs of [TS]

00:05:03 ◼   ► the different where they're like they've [TS]

00:05:05 ◼   ► got this kind of like propulsive it's [TS]

00:05:07 ◼   ► really it's like downbeat Arthur Lee's [TS]

00:05:09 ◼   ► love in some ways but there for the [TS]

00:05:11 ◼   ► they're like that some if you're feeling [TS]

00:05:13 ◼   ► sinister it's basically alone again or [TS]

00:05:14 ◼   ► you know [TS]

00:05:15 ◼   ► wow you are dropping some pop music [TS]

00:05:18 ◼   ► vocabulary guess you much got it i [TS]

00:05:21 ◼   ► cannot keep up with it all you know you [TS]

00:05:23 ◼   ► have mentioned 42 pop culture references [TS]

00:05:26 ◼   ► and it all has just sound like made-up [TS]

00:05:29 ◼   ► word yeah yeah the parking lot line that [TS]

00:05:33 ◼   ► anything like church because the the but [TS]

00:05:37 ◼   ► it was any faster to do it's got the [TS]

00:05:39 ◼   ► other song again alone again [TS]

00:05:40 ◼   ► why don't i don't know anything that [TS]

00:05:42 ◼   ► you're saying local we're talking really [TS]

00:05:47 ◼   ► just selling word salad yeah I'm sure [TS]

00:05:50 ◼   ► that I'm sure that i was in some places [TS]

00:05:51 ◼   ► where these musics were happening but i [TS]

00:05:53 ◼   ► do not remember them by name heard the [TS]

00:05:55 ◼   ► bad love [TS]

00:05:57 ◼   ► I'm course ok when they do that they're [TS]

00:05:58 ◼   ► famous song their famous song which I [TS]

00:06:01 ◼   ► which I think the thing to the drunk [TS]

00:06:04 ◼   ► dunk but you're right look like the song [TS]

00:06:06 ◼   ► dump to dump your everything that song [TS]

00:06:09 ◼   ► in reference to another song that I [TS]

00:06:11 ◼   ► think it's that what this is it's like [TS]

00:06:13 ◼   ► songs i don't know all the way I lilypad [TS]

00:06:15 ◼   ► a little hard there [TS]

00:06:16 ◼   ► yes yes okay never mind it's not [TS]

00:06:18 ◼   ► important [TS]

00:06:20 ◼   ► no we came out of the gate and you're [TS]

00:06:21 ◼   ► like well music episode and I was like [TS]

00:06:24 ◼   ► well it was like you were waving a dildo [TS]

00:06:27 ◼   ► in my face and I was like again again [TS]

00:06:31 ◼   ► again i can't pin this music episode [TS]

00:06:33 ◼   ► it's only three minutes long and i'm [TS]

00:06:37 ◼   ► already just like wow talk about upland [TS]

00:06:40 ◼   ► they're funny and literate now see I'm [TS]

00:06:42 ◼   ► gonna guess that that's a band Sean [TS]

00:06:44 ◼   ► light that seems like a very Sean kind [TS]

00:06:47 ◼   ► of band [TS]

00:06:47 ◼   ► well the little Sebastian not overly [TS]

00:06:50 ◼   ► love early to you the early two [TS]

00:06:52 ◼   ► thousands there was a lot going on [TS]

00:06:55 ◼   ► that it wasn't it wasn't over my head or [TS]

00:06:59 ◼   ► above my pay grade it was just that I [TS]

00:07:03 ◼   ► was there was a moment where I suddenly [TS]

00:07:07 ◼   ► felt behind the curve and everything got [TS]

00:07:11 ◼   ► way softer and prettier but the soft [TS]

00:07:17 ◼   ► prettiness wasn't it didn't convey like [TS]

00:07:19 ◼   ► either softness or prettiest it was like [TS]

00:07:22 ◼   ► a prettiest it was aggressively quiet [TS]

00:07:24 ◼   ► and aggressively soft and pretty i felt [TS]

00:07:27 ◼   ► i didn't know where I didn't know where [TS]

00:07:29 ◼   ► to go with that that's me and and and [TS]

00:07:31 ◼   ► what they called post-rock I've never [TS]

00:07:33 ◼   ► understood post-rock and I tried because [TS]

00:07:37 ◼   ► I really felt like that was the Jazz of [TS]

00:07:40 ◼   ► the late nineties post-rock was the Jazz [TS]

00:07:42 ◼   ► of the late nineties it's yet post-rock [TS]

00:07:44 ◼   ► is gonna make indie-rock look like [TS]

00:07:47 ◼   ► college rock that ya know post-rock I [TS]

00:07:54 ◼   ► didn't get I like I mean like I tried to [TS]

00:07:56 ◼   ► tortoise I tried the the carb and [TS]

00:07:58 ◼   ► whether it was the other band that but [TS]

00:08:00 ◼   ► they're all those bands it was just a [TS]

00:08:02 ◼   ► bunch of I don't know it's like a like [TS]

00:08:04 ◼   ► vibes vibes and brush drums and like [TS]

00:08:07 ◼   ► motor voices I mean you're describing [TS]

00:08:09 ◼   ► American analog set except minus the the [TS]

00:08:12 ◼   ► motor noises who American analog set [TS]

00:08:14 ◼   ► from that actually the vibes player for [TS]

00:08:17 ◼   ► American analog that plays the vibes on [TS]

00:08:20 ◼   ► the long winters album for the long [TS]

00:08:23 ◼   ► winter song Nora Nora bing-bong [TS]

00:08:27 ◼   ► bing-bong bing-bong said vibes bond [TS]

00:08:31 ◼   ► minds hard to play because you get the [TS]

00:08:33 ◼   ► you get to mallets in each hand and [TS]

00:08:35 ◼   ► you're playing octaves mostly right up [TS]

00:08:37 ◼   ► no no I don't think you're playing [TS]

00:08:40 ◼   ► different intervals yes now let's in [TS]

00:08:42 ◼   ► each hand [TS]

00:08:42 ◼   ► yes because there's it on hammers or [TS]

00:08:44 ◼   ► malice where they call it uh i think [TS]

00:08:47 ◼   ► they call them bombers hungers it would [TS]

00:08:50 ◼   ► be at this woman was active i thought it [TS]

00:08:52 ◼   ► was like a mac from superchunk kind of [TS]

00:08:54 ◼   ► uh no I think you can do octaves but you [TS]

00:08:56 ◼   ► can it's like playing the piano vibe is [TS]

00:08:58 ◼   ► set up like a period between your [TS]

00:08:59 ◼   ► fingers that must be so hard to do [TS]

00:09:01 ◼   ► well it is hard to do this is the thing [TS]

00:09:05 ◼   ► about being good at a musical instrument [TS]

00:09:07 ◼   ► it's almost universally hard to do and [TS]

00:09:11 ◼   ► no matter what 20 pick and you just pick [TS]

00:09:13 ◼   ► one and go for you so why there's a [TS]

00:09:15 ◼   ► woman here in Seattle an errand [TS]

00:09:17 ◼   ► Jorgensen and she is a very small human [TS]

00:09:21 ◼   ► right like she's small in stature and [TS]

00:09:24 ◼   ► also small in in all dimensions little [TS]

00:09:27 ◼   ► redheaded she's cool look at girls yeah [TS]

00:09:30 ◼   ► and she has this is just very short hair [TS]

00:09:33 ◼   ► and very tattoo very good tattoos and [TS]

00:09:34 ◼   ► she plays the vibes spectacularly and [TS]

00:09:39 ◼   ► she schleps her i'm saying a lot of [TS]

00:09:41 ◼   ► words that are hard to say and it's [TS]

00:09:43 ◼   ► early in the morning for me [TS]

00:09:45 ◼   ► spectacularly sheesh LEP's her vibes [TS]

00:09:49 ◼   ► which are a gigantic thing she slaps him [TS]

00:09:53 ◼   ► all over town and she's one of those [TS]

00:09:55 ◼   ► musicians that will play a show with [TS]

00:09:57 ◼   ► somebody and then slipper vibes over and [TS]

00:09:59 ◼   ► play another show and she had like must [TS]

00:10:02 ◼   ► take such commitment it's it's but she's [TS]

00:10:05 ◼   ► spectacular and she has marimbas which [TS]

00:10:08 ◼   ► are vibes let me so I'm going to just [TS]

00:10:11 ◼   ► throw this out there i don't i don't [TS]

00:10:12 ◼   ► know what I'm actually saying but I [TS]

00:10:14 ◼   ► think their Bibles made out of wood [TS]

00:10:16 ◼   ► mhm marimba you get what you get [TS]

00:10:19 ◼   ► glockenspiel you got the xylophone you [TS]

00:10:21 ◼   ► get the marimba and you can you get the [TS]

00:10:24 ◼   ► vibes the minimize the finals pipes I [TS]

00:10:26 ◼   ► think Lou ending points of vibes have [TS]

00:10:31 ◼   ► actually an electrical component which [TS]

00:10:32 ◼   ► is something that is spinning underneath [TS]

00:10:36 ◼   ► likely yeah you can turn on and off and [TS]

00:10:40 ◼   ► it's it as the sound travels down the [TS]

00:10:43 ◼   ► pipe this little spinning flap will make [TS]

00:10:47 ◼   ► it go what will that Leslie speak [TS]

00:10:51 ◼   ► exactly it's a lesson that ass [TS]

00:10:53 ◼   ► it's a but it's an analog Leslie so that [TS]

00:10:55 ◼   ► it's not going to look at all right foot [TS]

00:10:57 ◼   ► pedal for that II yeah [TS]

00:10:59 ◼   ► at one point in the nineteen eighties my [TS]

00:11:03 ◼   ► dad who had always been a huge fan of [TS]

00:11:05 ◼   ► Lionel Hampton uh huh dad decided that [TS]

00:11:09 ◼   ► his new instrument was going to be [TS]

00:11:11 ◼   ► divides [TS]

00:11:12 ◼   ► now little bit about like quite a [TS]

00:11:16 ◼   ► commitment a little bit of backstory he [TS]

00:11:18 ◼   ► had no prior instrument who so he [TS]

00:11:22 ◼   ► decided it was going to be his new [TS]

00:11:23 ◼   ► instrument absent a former instrument [TS]

00:11:26 ◼   ► and he was what 17 de 70 let's say 70 [TS]

00:11:33 ◼   ► and maybe 6 66 67 let's say that he's [TS]

00:11:40 ◼   ► like I'm gonna get some vibes [TS]

00:11:42 ◼   ► this was before he talked like this it [TS]

00:11:43 ◼   ► was when he talked like this but it's [TS]

00:11:46 ◼   ► and I'm gonna get some vibes I was like [TS]

00:11:48 ◼   ► eyes much i'm not sure where we're going [TS]

00:11:52 ◼   ► to put him dad and where he put them was [TS]

00:11:56 ◼   ► in the TV watching room behind the TV [TS]

00:11:59 ◼   ► watching couch I think imagining that he [TS]

00:12:03 ◼   ► was going to play the vibes while [TS]

00:12:05 ◼   ► watching the TV and so there's the face [TS]

00:12:10 ◼   ► of it makes so much sense [TS]

00:12:11 ◼   ► that's right there you can watching what [TS]

00:12:14 ◼   ► your stories are looking at prices right [TS]

00:12:15 ◼   ► that's right and just a little Hampton [TS]

00:12:17 ◼   ► he only watch TV at night so there were [TS]

00:12:19 ◼   ► no stories there was no price of right [TS]

00:12:21 ◼   ► it was always you can watch magnum I I [TS]

00:12:25 ◼   ► don't think you watch magnum but he did [TS]

00:12:26 ◼   ► he did was watch he liked to watch war [TS]

00:12:31 ◼   ► movies right he liked you like to watch [TS]

00:12:33 ◼   ► old classic movies so all of a sudden [TS]

00:12:38 ◼   ► behind the couch appeared this enormous [TS]

00:12:40 ◼   ► shiny set of viber phones which he never [TS]

00:12:48 ◼   ► again touched the treadmill he touched [TS]

00:12:51 ◼   ► them to bring them in the house huh [TS]

00:12:53 ◼   ► never touch them again so of course i [TS]

00:12:56 ◼   ► would sit there and play the vibes [TS]

00:12:59 ◼   ► Wow to everyone's a massive annoyance [TS]

00:13:05 ◼   ► and I would sit and you know like I have [TS]

00:13:08 ◼   ► like I've always done with every [TS]

00:13:09 ◼   ► instrument i refused any instruction or [TS]

00:13:13 ◼   ► any information about them and just sat [TS]

00:13:16 ◼   ► at them and made my own clink clink boom [TS]

00:13:20 ◼   ► boom well because they're because it had [TS]

00:13:22 ◼   ► this electricity and they were you know [TS]

00:13:24 ◼   ► they were fairly loud around [TS]

00:13:26 ◼   ► think about that one moment can get out [TS]

00:13:28 ◼   ► oh well boo boo and so I would play [TS]

00:13:32 ◼   ► these things i never got the two mallets [TS]

00:13:34 ◼   ► per hand business at all i just i just [TS]

00:13:37 ◼   ► had one mallapur hand and but i would do [TS]

00:13:40 ◼   ► the I would do the rapid like doing [TS]

00:13:42 ◼   ► really kind of stuff with the [TS]

00:13:46 ◼   ► fast-moving balance and boy did I have a [TS]

00:13:48 ◼   ► time I had as much i had so much of a [TS]

00:13:51 ◼   ► time that then briefly this was the best [TS]

00:13:56 ◼   ► the best part of this and I had [TS]

00:13:57 ◼   ► completely forgotten until now my dad [TS]

00:14:00 ◼   ► said you know what i should do since I [TS]

00:14:02 ◼   ► never play the vibes but you're getting [TS]

00:14:04 ◼   ► pretty good at it [TS]

00:14:06 ◼   ► I've always been intrigued by the steel [TS]

00:14:08 ◼   ► drum and there was brief moment where he [TS]

00:14:14 ◼   ► was me like the thing that the guys play [TS]

00:14:16 ◼   ► like a beach bar [TS]

00:14:18 ◼   ► yeah that's right the tunes the like [TS]

00:14:20 ◼   ► it's like a 55-gallon drum that's been [TS]

00:14:22 ◼   ► tuned [TS]

00:14:22 ◼   ► it's been tuned hammered that face has [TS]

00:14:24 ◼   ► been hammered in such a way that it can [TS]

00:14:26 ◼   ► play multiple notes and must be quite a [TS]

00:14:30 ◼   ► conversation [TS]

00:14:31 ◼   ► well the thing is there was there was [TS]

00:14:33 ◼   ► briefly a moment where I was super [TS]

00:14:35 ◼   ► excited that i was going to get a set of [TS]

00:14:38 ◼   ► steel drums behind the couch because [TS]

00:14:40 ◼   ► short of the bagpipes [TS]

00:14:43 ◼   ► there's only one instrument I mean that [TS]

00:14:46 ◼   ► is the instrument that if you don't know [TS]

00:14:47 ◼   ► how to play it [TS]

00:14:48 ◼   ► you cannot imagine how and look at their [TS]

00:14:50 ◼   ► I put violin up there [TS]

00:14:52 ◼   ► oh yeah I mean maybe maybe French horn [TS]

00:14:55 ◼   ► there certainly are now you don't want [TS]

00:14:56 ◼   ► to listen to something certain [TS]

00:14:57 ◼   ► instrument you don't want to listen to [TS]

00:14:59 ◼   ► somebody learn to play no more years the [TS]

00:15:02 ◼   ► more here mentioned that I think that [TS]

00:15:03 ◼   ► also is true of every instrument [TS]

00:15:05 ◼   ► ok that's number two that's good right [TS]

00:15:07 ◼   ► but so oh my god the the potential of [TS]

00:15:10 ◼   ► the bombs because ladies right i mean [TS]

00:15:13 ◼   ► there was a lot of a lot of reggae music [TS]

00:15:16 ◼   ► reggae music man i love kokomo that's [TS]

00:15:19 ◼   ► right Joseph RI and so ready music was [TS]

00:15:23 ◼   ► happening in a big way regular rock [TS]

00:15:25 ◼   ► music reggae rock music Richard average [TS]

00:15:28 ◼   ► rock reggae roots rock reggae and the [TS]

00:15:30 ◼   ► idea that maybe I could find it [TS]

00:15:34 ◼   ► give you and your father have a rake you [TS]

00:15:36 ◼   ► know like I was not get into that scene [TS]

00:15:38 ◼   ► through the back door by being the one [TS]

00:15:40 ◼   ► guy that could put one white guy sharing [TS]

00:15:42 ◼   ► the John around always hated me look do [TS]

00:15:48 ◼   ► so yeah some roto toms me but then he [TS]

00:15:53 ◼   ► abandoned the steel drums idea and then [TS]

00:15:56 ◼   ► it was never spoken of again and i think [TS]

00:15:59 ◼   ► it was i think he abandoned it because [TS]

00:16:00 ◼   ► you couldn't find steel drums in Alaska [TS]

00:16:03 ◼   ► without considerable work more work than [TS]

00:16:05 ◼   ► he was prepared to do and then one day [TS]

00:16:08 ◼   ► gave the vibes I think to my niece or [TS]

00:16:12 ◼   ► sometimes just disappeared one day and [TS]

00:16:15 ◼   ► that's no small feat because they you [TS]

00:16:17 ◼   ► know they weighed as much as a honda [TS]

00:16:19 ◼   ► civic but uh yeah the that when we have [TS]

00:16:23 ◼   ► a long history and I think dad realized [TS]

00:16:25 ◼   ► at that point that what he needed to do [TS]

00:16:27 ◼   ► with it to satisfy to scratch that edge [TS]

00:16:29 ◼   ► what he needed to do was just listen to [TS]

00:16:32 ◼   ► Lionel Hampton tapes which wouldn't like [TS]

00:16:35 ◼   ► things like what I think like modern [TS]

00:16:37 ◼   ► jazz quartet modern jazz quartet just so [TS]

00:16:40 ◼   ► so gorgeous also modern jazz quartet was [TS]

00:16:42 ◼   ► one of my favorite indie rock bands of [TS]

00:16:45 ◼   ► the late nineties that's right they [TS]

00:16:46 ◼   ► didn't realize then Christmas too late i [TS]

00:16:48 ◼   ► like the brownout and changing its [TS]

00:16:49 ◼   ► chicken bones intervention [TS]

00:16:51 ◼   ► not as much as the grey album what sort [TS]

00:16:53 ◼   ► of a right yeah sort of like Jimmy's [TS]

00:16:56 ◼   ► Chicken Shack was the was the like [TS]

00:16:59 ◼   ► Alabama version of oh yeah right like [TS]

00:17:03 ◼   ► Martin's first wheel which was hard with [TS]

00:17:07 ◼   ► first wheel on you probably know them i [TS]

00:17:09 ◼   ► had their EP yeah i know is it is a [TS]

00:17:12 ◼   ► pretty right onto a shirt i never knew [TS]

00:17:13 ◼   ► Martin no thank you i knew his first [TS]

00:17:15 ◼   ► wheel pretty no I think Martin that was [TS]

00:17:17 ◼   ► never actually in the band I mean that's [TS]

00:17:19 ◼   ► one of those funny things it's like an [TS]

00:17:20 ◼   ► atomic dustbin always your next [TS]

00:17:22 ◼   ► destination in the band was was next [TS]

00:17:25 ◼   ► atomic dustbin and an emo band and [TS]

00:17:27 ◼   ► here's everything I know about Ned [TS]

00:17:29 ◼   ► atomic dustbin numbered ready go [TS]

00:17:31 ◼   ► okay number two I would always turn it [TS]

00:17:33 ◼   ► off when they came on a hundred twenty [TS]

00:17:35 ◼   ► minutes [TS]

00:17:35 ◼   ► number one I remember dave kendall [TS]

00:17:37 ◼   ► saying names atomic testing and that [TS]

00:17:40 ◼   ► would be my single move number two in [TS]

00:17:41 ◼   ► turn off that works forward fast forward [TS]

00:17:43 ◼   ► fast forward a non-uniform in order [TS]

00:17:46 ◼   ► when our dorm in our house the three of [TS]

00:17:47 ◼   ► us would wake every Sunday know every [TS]

00:17:49 ◼   ► monday i guess after got back from class [TS]

00:17:51 ◼   ► we watch hundred twenty minutes which we [TS]

00:17:52 ◼   ► take the night before and there were [TS]

00:17:55 ◼   ► rules now a man who is Nigel dormer [TS]

00:17:58 ◼   ► Nigel dormer invented the window qua [TS]

00:18:02 ◼   ► niger dormer did Sherlock natural dormer [TS]

00:18:05 ◼   ► don't have my own Idol door the one from [TS]

00:18:07 ◼   ► Cambridge Nigel dormer invented the [TS]

00:18:09 ◼   ► dormer that's why it's called the door [TS]

00:18:11 ◼   ► that's right and John cropper invented [TS]

00:18:13 ◼   ► da floor and so Michael and and I would [TS]

00:18:18 ◼   ► we get home from classes on Monday we [TS]

00:18:20 ◼   ► get back to our house and 120 minutes [TS]

00:18:21 ◼   ► but the rules this is not nam this is [TS]

00:18:23 ◼   ► this is bowling there are rules [TS]

00:18:25 ◼   ► what are the rules of 120 minutes are [TS]

00:18:28 ◼   ► there are certain things you can and [TS]

00:18:30 ◼   ► must fast forward over and other things [TS]

00:18:32 ◼   ► you don't cuz part of this 100 you taped [TS]

00:18:35 ◼   ► it on VHS [TS]

00:18:35 ◼   ► it's the only way to fly ice you can [TS]

00:18:38 ◼   ► never go back this is this is 1989 and [TS]

00:18:42 ◼   ► it was a show pretty good [TS]

00:18:45 ◼   ► oh yeah I was good then it would mean [TS]

00:18:46 ◼   ► the light it didn't hurt that there was [TS]

00:18:48 ◼   ► just so much good music there is great [TS]

00:18:50 ◼   ► news because when you said that we're [TS]

00:18:51 ◼   ► talking about like the quiet man i'm [TS]

00:18:52 ◼   ► just thinking about is in my head this [TS]

00:18:54 ◼   ► is a slight derail but I'm thinking in [TS]

00:18:56 ◼   ► my head I wonder if it was just the late [TS]

00:18:58 ◼   ► eighties and the late nineties there was [TS]

00:19:00 ◼   ► I felt there was such an explosion of [TS]

00:19:02 ◼   ► music felt like it was for me [TS]

00:19:04 ◼   ► so you're saying it might have something [TS]

00:19:05 ◼   ► to do with the lates could be the late [TS]

00:19:07 ◼   ► but could also be just like what I'm [TS]

00:19:09 ◼   ► ready for what I'm into [TS]

00:19:10 ◼   ► what's available oh wait a minute let's [TS]

00:19:12 ◼   ► walk let's trace this for a second late [TS]

00:19:14 ◼   ► sixties you know seventies awesome [TS]

00:19:17 ◼   ► wait a minute it's the late oh this is [TS]

00:19:19 ◼   ► your time to put it out put away the [TS]

00:19:21 ◼   ► record no you should put out your next [TS]

00:19:23 ◼   ► record that's okay [TS]

00:19:25 ◼   ► and I think in 2018 that's when you drop [TS]

00:19:29 ◼   ► the bangor so you put out something in [TS]

00:19:31 ◼   ► in this in the 16 that's like it kind of [TS]

00:19:35 ◼   ► procedures your means lying EP this is [TS]

00:19:38 ◼   ► where you like put out the EP that gets [TS]

00:19:39 ◼   ► people excited it was officially oh so [TS]

00:19:41 ◼   ► much [TS]

00:19:42 ◼   ► ok and what was the EP that my bloody [TS]

00:19:45 ◼   ► valentine put out before four lovely for [TS]

00:19:48 ◼   ► the good one Billy head is anything was [TS]

00:19:50 ◼   ► one thing is anything i think was the [TS]

00:19:52 ◼   ► record before that oh no the one with [TS]

00:19:53 ◼   ► tom is it not when you sleep but they [TS]

00:19:55 ◼   ► have the one glider i'm edmund glider [TS]

00:19:59 ◼   ► the lighter EP mmm i mean is anything is [TS]

00:20:02 ◼   ► still like you can just listen is [TS]

00:20:03 ◼   ► anything go holy shit like this holy [TS]

00:20:05 ◼   ► this is head and shoulders above most i [TS]

00:20:09 ◼   ► mean i like i like a fair amount of [TS]

00:20:11 ◼   ► shoegaze but like I mean obviously [TS]

00:20:12 ◼   ► levels is on a different level [TS]

00:20:14 ◼   ► sure totally different level hmph that's [TS]

00:20:16 ◼   ► what--that's 91 [TS]

00:20:18 ◼   ► yeah well yeah okay i might not have a [TS]

00:20:21 ◼   ► point here but i was gonna say was we [TS]

00:20:23 ◼   ► watching 20 minutes I don't know why I'm [TS]

00:20:24 ◼   ► telling you this right 27 is my laundry [TS]

00:20:26 ◼   ► number Hartley's quickly do seven is [TS]

00:20:33 ◼   ► something now I don't want to derail [TS]

00:20:35 ◼   ► this [TS]

00:20:35 ◼   ► no shit i'm looking back to my note [TS]

00:20:37 ◼   ► cards here into that 207 so the area [TS]

00:20:42 ◼   ► code of seattle is 206 huh [TS]

00:20:44 ◼   ► the last week's episode and 207 is a [TS]

00:20:49 ◼   ► number area code that periodically comes [TS]

00:20:51 ◼   ► up on my phone when somebody is phone [TS]

00:20:53 ◼   ► spamming no interesting i could not tell [TS]

00:20:56 ◼   ► you what that area code is it's just [TS]

00:20:58 ◼   ► close enough to 206 as you can imagine [TS]

00:21:01 ◼   ► with one away main but its main and I'm [TS]

00:21:05 ◼   ► periodically fooled [TS]

00:21:06 ◼   ► oh yeah to at least two almost answer [TS]

00:21:11 ◼   ► you know you know it's you know it's [TS]

00:21:13 ◼   ► spam [TS]

00:21:14 ◼   ► you know that as soon as i said as soon [TS]

00:21:16 ◼   ► as I realize what it is I'm like ah good [TS]

00:21:18 ◼   ► my daughter Noelle though that's right i [TS]

00:21:20 ◼   ► pick it up and I'm like did my daughter [TS]

00:21:22 ◼   ► go to me and she had a well to follow [TS]

00:21:25 ◼   ► you Lassie wrote what what the coffee's [TS]

00:21:29 ◼   ► done brewing 207 so the rule was you [TS]

00:21:34 ◼   ► could skip past you could we usually [TS]

00:21:36 ◼   ► watch the beginning because they say [TS]

00:21:38 ◼   ► like the guests are going to be and [TS]

00:21:39 ◼   ► stuff like that [TS]

00:21:40 ◼   ► I thought that the hundred twenty [TS]

00:21:41 ◼   ► minutes had the had the kid with the the [TS]

00:21:44 ◼   ► mullet that's about his name was like [TS]

00:21:45 ◼   ► Frankie or something or we first had [TS]

00:21:47 ◼   ► Kevin seals then you had David Kendall [TS]

00:21:51 ◼   ► and it later yet Matt pin field i want [TS]

00:21:53 ◼   ► to say that i ever tell you that I was [TS]

00:21:55 ◼   ► in a play with Kevin Steele I said Kevin [TS]

00:21:58 ◼   ► sealing the idea to torch song trilogy [TS]

00:21:59 ◼   ► em what place were you in [TS]

00:22:02 ◼   ► I don't remember it was a play some play [TS]

00:22:05 ◼   ► some alternative nation play back in the [TS]

00:22:08 ◼   ► day where there was like some fire [TS]

00:22:09 ◼   ► breathing and [TS]

00:22:10 ◼   ► there's a funicular in the play my [TS]

00:22:14 ◼   ► goodness it was a musical and I played [TS]

00:22:17 ◼   ► the harmonica at one point I think I [TS]

00:22:20 ◼   ► might have been i did quite a few plays [TS]

00:22:22 ◼   ► in the nineties where i was i was kind [TS]

00:22:25 ◼   ► of the guy in Seattle that you would [TS]

00:22:26 ◼   ► stunt cast how nice [TS]

00:22:28 ◼   ► like all the guy from the long were no I [TS]

00:22:30 ◼   ► wasn't in the long winters then the guy [TS]

00:22:31 ◼   ► from you know is I was just a hanger-on [TS]

00:22:33 ◼   ► and they would put me and put me in [TS]

00:22:36 ◼   ► roles where I kind of would walk on play [TS]

00:22:38 ◼   ► a character named tiny yeah i was at one [TS]

00:22:41 ◼   ► point I was cool hand luke [TS]

00:22:43 ◼   ► oh man early yeah where you why it's [TS]

00:22:46 ◼   ► like here comes cool handling with a [TS]

00:22:47 ◼   ► special lucker your dragline I was you [TS]

00:22:51 ◼   ► lose the guy who hate 850 eggs I was the [TS]

00:22:54 ◼   ► guy that could that well yeah you can't [TS]

00:22:56 ◼   ► know a mechanic 50 eggs but I came out [TS]

00:22:59 ◼   ► and was cool and looking for a while but [TS]

00:23:00 ◼   ► in this in this play I play the [TS]

00:23:03 ◼   ► harmonica and my maybe sing a song about [TS]

00:23:06 ◼   ► a funicular particular niculae funicula [TS]

00:23:11 ◼   ► that's funny 23 people [TS]

00:23:13 ◼   ► ah feels cozy was in seattle at the time [TS]

00:23:18 ◼   ► doing some Romans who are here go to [TS]

00:23:20 ◼   ► their house [TS]

00:23:21 ◼   ► mm no conjugate that oh so ridiculous [TS]

00:23:26 ◼   ► finicky loss finicky latest manipulator [TS]

00:23:29 ◼   ► NICU LA so don't know us [TS]

00:23:34 ◼   ► don't do it i'm lost Kevin seal was in [TS]

00:23:38 ◼   ► the play and Kevin Steele we've talked [TS]

00:23:40 ◼   ► about him before him we I think we did [TS]

00:23:42 ◼   ► Kevin Steele was such a hero to me [TS]

00:23:45 ◼   ► really he was perpetually stony he was [TS]

00:23:47 ◼   ► very stony his his his sense of humor [TS]

00:23:51 ◼   ► was so great he was the first person [TS]

00:23:54 ◼   ► that appeared on television that I was [TS]

00:23:57 ◼   ► like oh my god that guy would be my [TS]

00:23:59 ◼   ► friend [TS]

00:24:00 ◼   ► oh my god i just special Hodgson like he [TS]

00:24:02 ◼   ► comes along you're like who is this guy [TS]

00:24:04 ◼   ► there's no be on TV like this person [TS]

00:24:06 ◼   ► isn't and I was so thrilled by him if he [TS]

00:24:09 ◼   ► was on TV I would drop everything and [TS]

00:24:11 ◼   ► just watching because he was such a he [TS]

00:24:14 ◼   ► just seemed like such a such a friend [TS]

00:24:17 ◼   ► and I never had that experience before [TS]

00:24:19 ◼   ► that and i had had never had that [TS]

00:24:21 ◼   ► experience since then and I didn't want [TS]

00:24:24 ◼   ► him to do anything else right I didn't [TS]

00:24:26 ◼   ► want him to go into film I didn't want [TS]

00:24:28 ◼   ► him to I just wanted him to stay on MTV [TS]

00:24:31 ◼   ► and continue to play where the kids in [TS]

00:24:34 ◼   ► America and have funny things to say [TS]

00:24:36 ◼   ► about it [TS]

00:24:37 ◼   ► i I didn't want him to to idea i never i [TS]

00:24:41 ◼   ► think I never wanted anything about that [TS]

00:24:43 ◼   ► moment to change except i wanted to stop [TS]

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00:27:12 ◼   ► other than that it was perfect and then [TS]

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00:27:21 ◼   ► he wasn't that all that's sickening and [TS]

00:27:24 ◼   ► he's like he had a wife and kids he [TS]

00:27:26 ◼   ► moved to seattle he's still super nice [TS]

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00:27:32 ◼   ► like you was on TV that's so nice to [TS]

00:27:34 ◼   ► hear ya but he wasn't on TV you know now [TS]

00:27:38 ◼   ► a lot of those people that were on TV in [TS]

00:27:39 ◼   ► the nineties they continue to have [TS]

00:27:42 ◼   ► careers is like comedians or people you [TS]

00:27:45 ◼   ► know what I mean like Michael Ian Black [TS]

00:27:47 ◼   ► was on TV in the nineties but now he [TS]

00:27:51 ◼   ► continues to just sort of be a his [TS]

00:27:54 ◼   ► character in the world [TS]

00:27:55 ◼   ► yeah right and kevin steele didn't I [TS]

00:27:59 ◼   ► don't think make that transition he's [TS]

00:28:00 ◼   ► like so he's a stay-at-home dad stayed [TS]

00:28:03 ◼   ► home today I'm ready right now in the [TS]

00:28:04 ◼   ► wikipedia a yeah he was there with his [TS]

00:28:06 ◼   ► wife he does voiceover work as a [TS]

00:28:07 ◼   ► stay-at-home dad to his son can you [TS]

00:28:09 ◼   ► imagine isn't nice [TS]

00:28:11 ◼   ► I mean you're almost a stay-at-home dad [TS]

00:28:12 ◼   ► well I don't really work generally I [TS]

00:28:15 ◼   ► think you're nine one-hundredths and the [TS]

00:28:18 ◼   ► Florida and add all the you know you [TS]

00:28:22 ◼   ► deep and the rule was that it was a song [TS]

00:28:26 ◼   ► we had not heard even if it was [TS]

00:28:28 ◼   ► something that we were not into even if [TS]

00:28:30 ◼   ► it was negative Macduff spin you had to [TS]

00:28:32 ◼   ► listen you had this day and with its [TS]

00:28:35 ◼   ► regular I got they have it [TS]

00:28:36 ◼   ► you have to listen through through the [TS]

00:28:39 ◼   ► first chorus so you basically to listen [TS]

00:28:41 ◼   ► to a verse or two and the chorus and [TS]

00:28:42 ◼   ► then bye-bye consent the three of us [TS]

00:28:45 ◼   ► will vote on whether to listen to the [TS]

00:28:46 ◼   ► rest of the song and it's almost always [TS]

00:28:47 ◼   ► like to skip it [TS]

00:28:49 ◼   ► I that was was this yet the era of the [TS]

00:28:52 ◼   ► super long intro or did that come in the [TS]

00:28:55 ◼   ► early night that feels a little more [TS]

00:28:56 ◼   ► like a nineties thing this is this is to [TS]

00:28:58 ◼   ► me the heyday of MTV this is when I mean [TS]

00:29:01 ◼   ► I don't know this day I mean obviously [TS]

00:29:03 ◼   ► there's the like totally just a [TS]

00:29:05 ◼   ► coincidence that you were 19 [TS]

00:29:07 ◼   ► well that the one MTV's came along it [TS]

00:29:09 ◼   ► was you it was for hobbyists you had to [TS]

00:29:12 ◼   ► really sit there and wait for video you [TS]

00:29:14 ◼   ► like to come on cuz they have like 200 [TS]

00:29:15 ◼   ► videos period [TS]

00:29:16 ◼   ► yeah and you know they all seem to be [TS]

00:29:19 ◼   ► the motels only the lonely [TS]

00:29:20 ◼   ► well I ran you know they were the same [TS]

00:29:23 ◼   ► videos you see overall Oliver's army the [TS]

00:29:25 ◼   ► same videos you see over and over and [TS]

00:29:27 ◼   ► over what was the band from New Zealand [TS]

00:29:28 ◼   ► that was fronted by the brother of the [TS]

00:29:31 ◼   ► young kid that ended up being the [TS]

00:29:33 ◼   ► crowded house guy a split it split ends [TS]

00:29:37 ◼   ► I would wait for hours for every day [TS]

00:29:40 ◼   ► there's no weird [TS]

00:29:41 ◼   ► yeah that that they were one of the ones [TS]

00:29:43 ◼   ► that were they were not in heavy [TS]

00:29:45 ◼   ► rotation [TS]

00:29:45 ◼   ► yeah yeah but buoyed by the time of [TS]

00:29:47 ◼   ► split ends video would come along I will [TS]

00:29:49 ◼   ► yeah i would have seen Iran like six [TS]

00:29:50 ◼   ► times [TS]

00:29:51 ◼   ► yeah but you would see so like split sec [TS]

00:29:52 ◼   ► I got you you see six months in a leaky [TS]

00:29:54 ◼   ► boat i cannot you two don't go don't but [TS]

00:29:58 ◼   ► don't but don't but I their own the [TS]

00:30:00 ◼   ► painting in the background i love the [TS]

00:30:02 ◼   ► video 29 MTV was absolutely a thing a by [TS]

00:30:06 ◼   ► 85 MTV of the thing [TS]

00:30:08 ◼   ► oh but they were still showing videos [TS]

00:30:10 ◼   ► they had good like shows about music [TS]

00:30:12 ◼   ► videos they had headbangers ball they [TS]

00:30:14 ◼   ► had no that's the one with Ricky Frankie [TS]

00:30:17 ◼   ► Ricky Jay Riecke savage not Ricky van on [TS]

00:30:20 ◼   ► Ricky J he's the one making lights click [TS]

00:30:23 ◼   ► with these cards gonna go take care of [TS]

00:30:25 ◼   ► these guards your card is a Jaguar key [TS]

00:30:30 ◼   ► rocket Rikki Rockett that's it was that [TS]

00:30:32 ◼   ► right my god i'm guessing and then you [TS]

00:30:34 ◼   ► also have but you also had my favorite [TS]

00:30:37 ◼   ► young TV wraps which Islam amazing so [TS]

00:30:40 ◼   ► I'm gonna call 999 the banner year for [TS]

00:30:42 ◼   ► MTV although I have to say fab 5 freddy [TS]

00:30:47 ◼   ► did not have a lot of telegenic [TS]

00:30:50 ◼   ► no he didn't yeah that's he's a [TS]

00:30:53 ◼   ► legendary character of fab 5 freddy what [TS]

00:30:56 ◼   ► we see the fab 5 freddy up blondie song [TS]

00:30:59 ◼   ► no that's bad press where customers also [TS]

00:31:01 ◼   ► there's another then it was hosted by a [TS]

00:31:03 ◼   ► bad lover and dr. Dre except it's a [TS]

00:31:05 ◼   ► different doctor Dre Dr Dre Dre but the [TS]

00:31:08 ◼   ► thing is I think there are a lot of dr. [TS]

00:31:10 ◼   ► dre's doctor because because dr. [TS]

00:31:12 ◼   ► straight thank you [TS]

00:31:13 ◼   ► because Dre is short for greatness [TS]

00:31:16 ◼   ► that's not true and that's a very very [TS]

00:31:21 ◼   ► popular in a everything American [TS]

00:31:23 ◼   ► community a lot of a lot of them when [TS]

00:31:25 ◼   ► they came to Ellis Island the changes [TS]

00:31:26 ◼   ► they don't sound Jewish you know to the [TS]

00:31:27 ◼   ► king of the Dreyfus wits it's not [TS]

00:31:29 ◼   ► driving anymore straightness so that's [TS]

00:31:32 ◼   ► what dr. dre sure [TS]

00:31:33 ◼   ► ok and a lot of people you know we're [TS]

00:31:36 ◼   ► like I'm I'm not a doctor of the rocker [TS]

00:31:38 ◼   ► further i'm not a real doctor but I am a [TS]

00:31:40 ◼   ► real dre exactly so dr. dre's popular [TS]

00:31:43 ◼   ► but how are you going to have a second [TS]

00:31:45 ◼   ► fab 5 freddy no way there's no way [TS]

00:31:49 ◼   ► somebody else could be like I'm also fat [TS]

00:31:51 ◼   ► by pretty see no magnetic field was [TS]

00:31:54 ◼   ► doing it I think in the nineties when i [TS]

00:31:56 ◼   ► was still taping it when i moved to [TS]

00:31:57 ◼   ► Tallahassee I always liked how [TS]

00:32:00 ◼   ► interested he seemed in the music but he [TS]

00:32:03 ◼   ► didn't have the kind of like glitzy [TS]

00:32:05 ◼   ► showbiz feeling like they can't restrain [TS]

00:32:07 ◼   ► me a little bit crazy there's a tumblr [TS]

00:32:08 ◼   ► that's just just what dave kendall was [TS]

00:32:10 ◼   ► wearing on a hundred twenty minutes [TS]

00:32:12 ◼   ► tremendous and i also want to share [TS]

00:32:15 ◼   ► something that I don't know if I talked [TS]

00:32:17 ◼   ► about much but reminds me of your vibe [TS]

00:32:20 ◼   ► story em some reason i think in 1980 my [TS]

00:32:25 ◼   ► mom who had taking piano lessons as a [TS]

00:32:27 ◼   ► kid she could still like you know she'd [TS]

00:32:29 ◼   ► sit down to play some piano she's not [TS]

00:32:30 ◼   ► all I'd like to get one of those you [TS]

00:32:32 ◼   ► know or organ like a series organ ya [TS]

00:32:34 ◼   ► yeah would ya yeah and so much gee I [TS]

00:32:39 ◼   ► don't know if she bought it or was [TS]

00:32:40 ◼   ► gifted it but she had that was a very [TS]

00:32:42 ◼   ► cheap serious issue organ at our house [TS]

00:32:45 ◼   ► had the two keyboards and it had the [TS]

00:32:48 ◼   ► drums and had a Foxtrot got a little [TS]

00:32:50 ◼   ► button keyboard that played this is the [TS]

00:32:53 ◼   ► key [TS]

00:32:53 ◼   ► this is the key is it had the buttons so [TS]

00:32:56 ◼   ► we got this and she's actually played [TS]

00:32:57 ◼   ► very much but it came with an organ [TS]

00:32:59 ◼   ► electric organ with a bench in the bench [TS]

00:33:01 ◼   ► had some [TS]

00:33:03 ◼   ► books and books and books in it in it [TS]

00:33:05 ◼   ► including like it's basically she didn't [TS]

00:33:08 ◼   ► do it much but I had absolutely nothing [TS]

00:33:10 ◼   ► to do to fill my time this in the hall [TS]

00:33:12 ◼   ► and oates sarah and i would just sit [TS]

00:33:13 ◼   ► down and try to play songs from the [TS]

00:33:16 ◼   ► fiddler on the roof book but it's also i [TS]

00:33:18 ◼   ► would write little songs using the [TS]

00:33:20 ◼   ► buttons because you need to know how to [TS]

00:33:21 ◼   ► play an E minor use need to know what [TS]

00:33:23 ◼   ► button hit and I learned stuff like GE [TS]

00:33:25 ◼   ► minor CD i love ya GA minor like that's [TS]

00:33:29 ◼   ► but this is 23 years before had a guitar [TS]

00:33:32 ◼   ► that's when I don't never i never really [TS]

00:33:34 ◼   ► think about this but we had a book of [TS]

00:33:36 ◼   ► like spiritual a reader's digest [TS]

00:33:37 ◼   ► religious music book we had like a you [TS]

00:33:41 ◼   ► know American classic songs and I would [TS]

00:33:43 ◼   ► just sit and that play terribly on this [TS]

00:33:47 ◼   ► organ and then turn the turn the [TS]

00:33:49 ◼   ► rock-and-roll beat up really fast that's [TS]

00:33:51 ◼   ► our kind of punk rock so it turns out [TS]

00:33:53 ◼   ► that's that's basically how i learned [TS]

00:33:55 ◼   ► I've been through accordion lessons I [TS]

00:33:56 ◼   ► think the trombone lessons I've been [TS]

00:33:58 ◼   ► through so many different things [TS]

00:33:59 ◼   ► meridian lesson oh yeah oh that's right [TS]

00:34:02 ◼   ► you're from Ohio that's right that's [TS]

00:34:03 ◼   ► right none of it stuck I hated it all [TS]

00:34:05 ◼   ► it wasn't until I was on my own with the [TS]

00:34:07 ◼   ► organ that I would sit there and and [TS]

00:34:10 ◼   ► beat out some some little tense [TS]

00:34:12 ◼   ► mhm we have the same organ and my mom [TS]

00:34:15 ◼   ► bought it for the same reason he turned [TS]

00:34:17 ◼   ► it on it sounded like when ya examining [TS]

00:34:20 ◼   ► the fan wound up [TS]

00:34:22 ◼   ► yeah but uh my game on it was every once [TS]

00:34:27 ◼   ► in awhile and and not and not [TS]

00:34:28 ◼   ► infrequently i would go in turn the [TS]

00:34:31 ◼   ► organ on the fan would come up i would [TS]

00:34:33 ◼   ► turn on the marimba beat but but [TS]

00:34:38 ◼   ► whatever some you know i would i would [TS]

00:34:40 ◼   ► set the tempo mid-tempo because that's [TS]

00:34:42 ◼   ► the greatest greatest tempo yes and then [TS]

00:34:44 ◼   ► i would start at the top of the of the [TS]

00:34:47 ◼   ► button series and I would play i would i [TS]

00:34:53 ◼   ► would just go down the row i would play [TS]

00:34:56 ◼   ► each I would push each button for like [TS]

00:34:59 ◼   ► 16 bars while on the piano [TS]

00:35:03 ◼   ► I would play some like little two or [TS]

00:35:08 ◼   ► three note melody [TS]

00:35:09 ◼   ► uh-huh and then I would change to the [TS]

00:35:12 ◼   ► next button [TS]

00:35:13 ◼   ► and do the same thing and I would go all [TS]

00:35:16 ◼   ► the way through three rows of buttons [TS]

00:35:19 ◼   ► with each each row had 18 was looking to [TS]

00:35:24 ◼   ► see what fit [TS]

00:35:26 ◼   ► no I was just playing a song well that [TS]

00:35:28 ◼   ► was every chord and playing this little [TS]

00:35:32 ◼   ► sort of and the melody would change [TS]

00:35:34 ◼   ► depending on what court i went to and [TS]

00:35:37 ◼   ► and it was it would change just by one [TS]

00:35:39 ◼   ► note generally because you would hear [TS]

00:35:41 ◼   ► like oh that note doesn't fit anymore [TS]

00:35:43 ◼   ► now I have to play that note play this [TS]

00:35:45 ◼   ► little thing and it had playing the [TS]

00:35:47 ◼   ► entire song probably took 15 minutes [TS]

00:35:49 ◼   ► because i had to make it you know i did [TS]

00:35:52 ◼   ► I gave every poor girl it's almost like [TS]

00:35:54 ◼   ► like like exercise like running a [TS]

00:35:55 ◼   ► circuit [TS]

00:35:56 ◼   ► yeah right every court I would give i [TS]

00:35:58 ◼   ► would give 16 bars and I would just find [TS]

00:36:01 ◼   ► in the in the little three year you know [TS]

00:36:03 ◼   ► three notes boo did too did titude I [TS]

00:36:07 ◼   ► would find the little melody [TS]

00:36:10 ◼   ► Wow and just will work my way all the [TS]

00:36:12 ◼   ► way through and my sister would hear me [TS]

00:36:14 ◼   ► doing it and come in and dance and this [TS]

00:36:18 ◼   ► was like a thing and then i would get to [TS]

00:36:19 ◼   ► the end and I would turn off the organ [TS]

00:36:22 ◼   ► and I would be done [TS]

00:36:24 ◼   ► sometimes if Susan was really dancing [TS]

00:36:26 ◼   ► and I was really having a jam in time I [TS]

00:36:28 ◼   ► would start over at the top again and i [TS]

00:36:30 ◼   ► would work my way back through the [TS]

00:36:32 ◼   ► buttons [TS]

00:36:33 ◼   ► isn't that amazing yeah and it was I [TS]

00:36:35 ◼   ► don't know what I was learning i was [TS]

00:36:36 ◼   ► just learning some kind of like here's [TS]

00:36:38 ◼   ► how little melodies change when you move [TS]

00:36:40 ◼   ► from [TS]

00:36:41 ◼   ► I'm not even sure I understood i [TS]

00:36:42 ◼   ► understood what was happening that but [TS]

00:36:45 ◼   ► that was between was part of the fun [TS]

00:36:46 ◼   ► there's nothing about it what extent was [TS]

00:36:48 ◼   ► actually in pic embarrassing what I was [TS]

00:36:49 ◼   ► doing was not anything that I would ever [TS]

00:36:51 ◼   ► do in front of people because it was so [TS]

00:36:54 ◼   ► dorky but I mean you know I don't again [TS]

00:36:57 ◼   ► this is one of those like this should be [TS]

00:36:58 ◼   ► in my bio pic but like that's one of [TS]

00:37:00 ◼   ► those stories were like yeah you know [TS]

00:37:02 ◼   ► that actually was the probably the [TS]

00:37:03 ◼   ► single biggest thing that got me to [TS]

00:37:05 ◼   ► figure out enough about music to fumble [TS]

00:37:06 ◼   ► my way around em like 10 because here's [TS]

00:37:09 ◼   ► the problem i mean we talk so much in [TS]

00:37:10 ◼   ► the past about like learning guitar how [TS]

00:37:12 ◼   ► you and I both like never got that good [TS]

00:37:14 ◼   ► at guitar or but like but eventually you [TS]

00:37:17 ◼   ► power through it to where you know the [TS]

00:37:19 ◼   ► patterns [TS]

00:37:19 ◼   ► yeah to where you know these like you [TS]

00:37:22 ◼   ► know the 1454 wherever you go [TS]

00:37:24 ◼   ► eventually the bar chords but you don't [TS]

00:37:26 ◼   ► figure that eventually [TS]

00:37:27 ◼   ► the first you just have to learn all [TS]

00:37:28 ◼   ► these open chords and then figure out [TS]

00:37:29 ◼   ► how they fit together [TS]

00:37:30 ◼   ► yeah and the thing is I'm not putting [TS]

00:37:32 ◼   ► this well but your your body and your [TS]

00:37:35 ◼   ► brain are not able to process the music [TS]

00:37:38 ◼   ► part of it you're thinking about the [TS]

00:37:39 ◼   ► mechanics of moving your hands around [TS]

00:37:41 ◼   ► and trying to like fret properly and [TS]

00:37:42 ◼   ► keep in tune and all that kind of stuff [TS]

00:37:44 ◼   ► but with the organ with the buttons i [TS]

00:37:46 ◼   ► could just figure out like like pure [TS]

00:37:48 ◼   ► chord changes you know I was make these [TS]

00:37:50 ◼   ► really fruity like psychedelic and blues [TS]

00:37:53 ◼   ► guys sunshine kind of like you know [TS]

00:37:55 ◼   ► chord changes and it delights me but it [TS]

00:37:57 ◼   ► was so dark I would never do that in [TS]

00:37:58 ◼   ► front of somebody [TS]

00:37:59 ◼   ► well that's one of the things about [TS]

00:38:00 ◼   ► having a sibling is that your siblings [TS]

00:38:03 ◼   ► close enough to you that you cannot [TS]

00:38:06 ◼   ► excuse me you cannot avoid doing dorky [TS]

00:38:10 ◼   ► throwing things in it right and so like [TS]

00:38:13 ◼   ► the idea that I would and I mean I'm [TS]

00:38:15 ◼   ► sure they're there arrived at a time [TS]

00:38:18 ◼   ► when I would do my my little organ jam [TS]

00:38:23 ◼   ► and my sister would come into dance and [TS]

00:38:25 ◼   ► I was like get out of here i'm doing my [TS]

00:38:27 ◼   ► own Jam i'm not even sure that ever [TS]

00:38:30 ◼   ► happened I feel like that's one that's [TS]

00:38:32 ◼   ► one thing we're that's nice that's a [TS]

00:38:34 ◼   ► nice tits and I story in a nice image [TS]

00:38:36 ◼   ► yeah it's a little bit of a thing that [TS]

00:38:37 ◼   ► you and your sisters share that no one [TS]

00:38:39 ◼   ► could be embarrassed by because it's [TS]

00:38:41 ◼   ► never occurred to you that that this [TS]

00:38:43 ◼   ► happens outside that this is happening [TS]

00:38:45 ◼   ► outside of your small world right but uh [TS]

00:38:49 ◼   ► but yeah the the guitar still is a [TS]

00:38:53 ◼   ► mystery to me the way all the music [TS]

00:38:57 ◼   ► overlaps itself and interacts with [TS]

00:38:59 ◼   ► itself and i still routinely discover [TS]

00:39:03 ◼   ► something room like oh whoa wait a [TS]

00:39:05 ◼   ► minute that thing is that thing I like [TS]

00:39:09 ◼   ► it'sit's still like occurring to you [TS]

00:39:11 ◼   ► it still happens all the time where i'll [TS]

00:39:13 ◼   ► be out i will have been playing [TS]

00:39:15 ◼   ► something for years and i'll i'll stop [TS]

00:39:19 ◼   ► doing it for a second and try and figure [TS]

00:39:23 ◼   ► out what it is this thing that I've been [TS]

00:39:26 ◼   ► doing for years [TS]

00:39:27 ◼   ► looks like you've been doing it in your [TS]

00:39:28 ◼   ► in your hands [TS]

00:39:30 ◼   ► yeah but you haven't really like like [TS]

00:39:32 ◼   ► logically processed it like I put it on [TS]

00:39:34 ◼   ► a grid or something yeah it's it not [TS]

00:39:35 ◼   ► only in my hands it's in my songs [TS]

00:39:37 ◼   ► it's on my album [TS]

00:39:38 ◼   ► like for a long time I couldn't have [TS]

00:39:42 ◼   ► told you what the actual chords to the [TS]

00:39:46 ◼   ► song stupid were from if you'd asked me [TS]

00:39:49 ◼   ► I would be like I don't know just like [TS]

00:39:52 ◼   ► it sounds like he commands I mean that [TS]

00:39:54 ◼   ► sounds silly but like when i try to [TS]

00:39:55 ◼   ► explain something how to do something [TS]

00:39:56 ◼   ► that I've done on the computer I i have [TS]

00:39:58 ◼   ► to change a completely different mode of [TS]

00:40:00 ◼   ► thinking because I'm so used to just [TS]

00:40:01 ◼   ► doing this thing with my fingers I've [TS]

00:40:03 ◼   ► never verbalized anything about what I'm [TS]

00:40:04 ◼   ► doing and I sound like a complete idiot [TS]

00:40:06 ◼   ► yeah yeah yeah me too like I don't wanna [TS]

00:40:08 ◼   ► play it [TS]

00:40:09 ◼   ► I mean I don't want to tell you how to [TS]

00:40:11 ◼   ► do it somebody asked me on the internet [TS]

00:40:12 ◼   ► the other day I was they were like how [TS]

00:40:14 ◼   ► do you like what's the strum pattern to [TS]

00:40:18 ◼   ► your song it'll be a breeze and I was [TS]

00:40:21 ◼   ► like daughter put the pic in your hand [TS]

00:40:25 ◼   ► and drum before its erratic it's one of [TS]

00:40:27 ◼   ► your erratic sounding songs [TS]

00:40:29 ◼   ► well so I so so my my initial response [TS]

00:40:33 ◼   ► to him was like yeah put a pic in your [TS]

00:40:35 ◼   ► an instrument i don't know what would [TS]

00:40:36 ◼   ► listen to it and strum it like it sounds [TS]

00:40:38 ◼   ► and he wrote back was like okay thanks [TS]

00:40:42 ◼   ► and I kind of walked around for a couple [TS]

00:40:44 ◼   ► days kind of feeling bad like tonight [TS]

00:40:46 ◼   ► that was was I mean I mean I don't [TS]

00:40:49 ◼   ► understand even the question so I [TS]

00:40:50 ◼   ► listened to the song and I was like oh I [TS]

00:40:55 ◼   ► guess I see you know I guess I see what [TS]

00:40:58 ◼   ► you're saying it's you know it's [TS]

00:41:01 ◼   ► [Music] [TS]

00:41:09 ◼   ► I don't know the course [TS]

00:41:13 ◼   ► [Music] [TS]

00:41:16 ◼   ► and so I started to play it feels [TS]

00:41:20 ◼   ► natural I'm seeing counting it out it's [TS]

00:41:21 ◼   ► it's a little weird and so so idea you [TS]

00:41:25 ◼   ► know I don't know who this person was [TS]

00:41:26 ◼   ► but I like turned my phone on myself and [TS]

00:41:30 ◼   ► strummed it into a little video and send [TS]

00:41:34 ◼   ► it to a guy like I don't hear cool [TS]

00:41:36 ◼   ► here's how it is i mean i don't i'm not [TS]

00:41:38 ◼   ► sure you know what I realized is that [TS]

00:41:40 ◼   ► there's a real up stroke you know strum [TS]

00:41:44 ◼   ► strum you know there's a there's a very [TS]

00:41:47 ◼   ► much a a swing to the arm and as I [TS]

00:41:51 ◼   ► started to do it I realized there are [TS]

00:41:52 ◼   ► few songs that i have where I where the [TS]

00:41:55 ◼   ► arm does this kind of almost like a the [TS]

00:41:58 ◼   ► a gesture that a that you would do if [TS]

00:42:02 ◼   ► you were pretending to be the conductor [TS]

00:42:04 ◼   ► of an orchestra for like the kind of [TS]

00:42:06 ◼   ► fake fluidity of a hand that's kind of [TS]

00:42:10 ◼   ► swinging around with an imaginary baton [TS]

00:42:13 ◼   ► going like that it is it about a right [TS]

00:42:17 ◼   ► and as I'm strumming my hand is actually [TS]

00:42:19 ◼   ► kind of swinging around kind of a [TS]

00:42:22 ◼   ► trademark move of yours the swinging [TS]

00:42:24 ◼   ► around hand while the after a strong up [TS]

00:42:26 ◼   ► there is a kind of flourish little towns [TS]

00:42:29 ◼   ► and he kind of flourish little flourish [TS]

00:42:31 ◼   ► but it's but the flourishes I'm not [TS]

00:42:33 ◼   ► conscious of it as a decorative element [TS]

00:42:35 ◼   ► the flourish is there to give my hand [TS]

00:42:38 ◼   ► something to do in the air before it [TS]

00:42:40 ◼   ► comes down because because there's a [TS]

00:42:43 ◼   ► rhythmic you know some damn did a damn [TS]

00:42:48 ◼   ► and the hands gotta do something in [TS]

00:42:51 ◼   ► those little is a bottom and so it kind [TS]

00:42:54 ◼   ► of goes up and spins or spins around a [TS]

00:42:58 ◼   ► little bit like a like a little [TS]

00:42:59 ◼   ► hummingbird like we and i don't i don't [TS]

00:43:03 ◼   ► think about it it's just what's and I [TS]

00:43:06 ◼   ► didn't think about it it just ended up [TS]

00:43:09 ◼   ► like that just feels like a very natural [TS]

00:43:11 ◼   ► scrum and and then the hand you know the [TS]

00:43:14 ◼   ► hand just naturally did that but it's [TS]

00:43:18 ◼   ► that type of thing that I couldn't [TS]

00:43:19 ◼   ► describe it [TS]

00:43:20 ◼   ► I don't know that I'm doing it and I did [TS]

00:43:22 ◼   ► not learn it [TS]

00:43:23 ◼   ► hmm what do you do at what do you call [TS]

00:43:26 ◼   ► that right now and then you discover it [TS]

00:43:28 ◼   ► and you're like oh shit [TS]

00:43:29 ◼   ► you know don't i don't want to know [TS]

00:43:31 ◼   ► about that like if I started thinking [TS]

00:43:33 ◼   ► about it i'm gonna get i might get all [TS]

00:43:36 ◼   ► screwed up [TS]

00:43:37 ◼   ► oh yeah i mean is that how it is with [TS]

00:43:40 ◼   ► key commands i could be it could be but [TS]

00:43:43 ◼   ► i'm thinking like I mean I was never [TS]

00:43:44 ◼   ► very good at music theory I mean I [TS]

00:43:45 ◼   ► learned just enough to be dangerous but [TS]

00:43:48 ◼   ► you know there are people actually [TS]

00:43:49 ◼   ► people using the show who are very [TS]

00:43:50 ◼   ► gifted in music theory and they can do [TS]

00:43:52 ◼   ► stuff like I still I can't tell the [TS]

00:43:54 ◼   ► difference difference between 6834 time [TS]

00:43:56 ◼   ► because i think it's got just go to [TS]

00:43:58 ◼   ► lowest common denominator is all three [TS]

00:43:59 ◼   ► four other people have very strong [TS]

00:44:00 ◼   ► feelings i can I would not account that [TS]

00:44:02 ◼   ► to know the difference [TS]

00:44:03 ◼   ► mhm you probably can but like there's a [TS]

00:44:05 ◼   ► but there are there are people out there [TS]

00:44:07 ◼   ► who would think about and their head I [TS]

00:44:08 ◼   ► think they're probably thinking along [TS]

00:44:09 ◼   ► the lines like how would I know take [TS]

00:44:10 ◼   ► this you know you get those little like [TS]

00:44:13 ◼   ► even the beatles think about something [TS]

00:44:14 ◼   ► like to entertain my way we can work it [TS]

00:44:18 ◼   ► out about the time signatures on we can [TS]

00:44:20 ◼   ► work it out it's not a super-complex [TS]

00:44:22 ◼   ► song but like in the life is very short [TS]

00:44:24 ◼   ► there's a time for fussing and 534 [TS]

00:44:26 ◼   ► bump-bump all I have always thought you [TS]

00:44:29 ◼   ► know and obviously pencil brush so I [TS]

00:44:31 ◼   ► think sometimes people are counting in [TS]

00:44:33 ◼   ► their head if you're having a serious [TS]

00:44:34 ◼   ► like band NERD you have to learn how to [TS]

00:44:36 ◼   ► conduct you have to learn how to count [TS]

00:44:37 ◼   ► and I don't think that's my part of it [TS]

00:44:39 ◼   ► is we never do that because like I just [TS]

00:44:40 ◼   ► rocks but you know there's a lot of 34 [TS]

00:44:43 ◼   ► in the long winter know I know [TS]

00:44:45 ◼   ► cinnamon and and 68 and some of it is [TS]

00:44:49 ◼   ► not where you kind of expected to be [TS]

00:44:51 ◼   ► here or you know the time signature [TS]

00:44:53 ◼   ► stuff how I don't get around is it did [TS]

00:44:56 ◼   ► school me what's the difference [TS]

00:44:58 ◼   ► well see this is the thing for years and [TS]

00:45:00 ◼   ► years i would just one other musicians [TS]

00:45:02 ◼   ► would be playing on that stuff with me [TS]

00:45:04 ◼   ► or I'd be trying to explain it i would [TS]

00:45:07 ◼   ► just say waltz waltz see well yeah well [TS]

00:45:09 ◼   ► it's time to boom song oh bumbo pretty [TS]

00:45:13 ◼   ► bad there who doesn't know or care that [TS]

00:45:14 ◼   ► the two general kind of times you got 44 [TS]

00:45:16 ◼   ► which is almost all music we listen to [TS]

00:45:18 ◼   ► in the west which is could basically be [TS]

00:45:20 ◼   ► described as boom chicka bumper sticker [TS]

00:45:21 ◼   ► or like boom 4134 Wow and you know [TS]

00:45:25 ◼   ► Watson here because it goes 123 123 its [TS]

00:45:28 ◼   ► next three-four time right [TS]

00:45:30 ◼   ► mm but now 68 you got me [TS]

00:45:34 ◼   ► I mean 68 I know it when I feel it it [TS]

00:45:39 ◼   ► feels different than 34 and I don't know [TS]

00:45:43 ◼   ► how to I don't know how to talk about it [TS]

00:45:45 ◼   ► yeah I just and I write things in 68 [TS]

00:45:47 ◼   ► also and don't know and I just I feel I [TS]

00:45:53 ◼   ► feel the difference and its wings [TS]

00:45:55 ◼   ► differently and I'm sure it has [TS]

00:45:58 ◼   ► something to do with something where the [TS]

00:46:00 ◼   ► math of it and the counting you know [TS]

00:46:03 ◼   ► because music is math and math science [TS]

00:46:06 ◼   ► and science nature nature's love right [TS]

00:46:09 ◼   ► so i started love and i get x all but I [TS]

00:46:13 ◼   ► but it's like chutes and ladders right [TS]

00:46:16 ◼   ► some people sometimes ladders about [TS]

00:46:18 ◼   ► these shoots that's right and I just [TS]

00:46:20 ◼   ► sometimes I just shoot down to the song [TS]

00:46:23 ◼   ► without passing through science math and [TS]

00:46:27 ◼   ► nature just pure life i go from love to [TS]

00:46:30 ◼   ► song em on a shoot while a lot while the [TS]

00:46:33 ◼   ► guys in rush are climbing up the ladder [TS]

00:46:35 ◼   ► oh sure jacob's ladder right and i start [TS]

00:46:38 ◼   ► at the top of the shoot they start at [TS]

00:46:40 ◼   ► the bottom of the ladder and who knows [TS]

00:46:42 ◼   ► what happens they arrived at 2112 and I [TS]

00:46:45 ◼   ► get somewhere where I can't tell other [TS]

00:46:47 ◼   ► musicians how my songs go now look at [TS]

00:46:49 ◼   ► the wikipedia page in your life and turn [TS]

00:46:52 ◼   ► it on again right and we talked about [TS]

00:46:53 ◼   ► this turn it on again to turn it on [TS]

00:46:56 ◼   ► again 647 for 13 for 13 8 blogger the [TS]

00:47:02 ◼   ► mean part i want is a TV show I think [TS]

00:47:05 ◼   ► that's 13-8 that's nice and Christine [TS]

00:47:08 ◼   ► 830 nate is such a pop song but a bum [TS]

00:47:10 ◼   ► arm on my mind you know that's all on [TS]

00:47:14 ◼   ► Reed Pete [TS]

00:47:16 ◼   ► well sure is a gentle son that's how you [TS]

00:47:18 ◼   ► know a song [TS]

00:47:19 ◼   ► yeah show you i don't know what has [TS]

00:47:25 ◼   ► happened this week I've had too much [TS]

00:47:26 ◼   ► coffee but you are bringing so much [TS]

00:47:28 ◼   ► fucking fault wisdom to our audience [TS]

00:47:31 ◼   ► yeah so all these things that seem [TS]

00:47:32 ◼   ► really obvious they're not they're not [TS]

00:47:34 ◼   ► obvious though that they need to be said [TS]

00:47:37 ◼   ► I haven't have this new song that hasn't [TS]

00:47:39 ◼   ► been really properly recorded yet called [TS]

00:47:41 ◼   ► not moving to portland and it's about [TS]

00:47:43 ◼   ► not moving to Portland [TS]

00:47:45 ◼   ► for a long time well it has been around [TS]

00:47:47 ◼   ► for a really long time but it's never [TS]

00:47:49 ◼   ► been i get i get i get letters sure on [TS]

00:47:52 ◼   ► sentences here [TS]

00:47:54 ◼   ► alright i asked asking me where could [TS]

00:47:58 ◼   ► that song can be found because people [TS]

00:47:59 ◼   ► want to listen to it and and i say i [TS]

00:48:02 ◼   ► don't know it's somewhere you look for [TS]

00:48:04 ◼   ► it on the internet and they're like no [TS]

00:48:05 ◼   ► no I want the recording of it and I go [TS]

00:48:07 ◼   ► that's it i'm sorry that's just what's [TS]

00:48:09 ◼   ► there but I've been thinking seriously [TS]

00:48:12 ◼   ► about recording it properly so that all [TS]

00:48:14 ◼   ► the people that don't listen too long [TS]

00:48:17 ◼   ► winter songs on YouTube that's such a [TS]

00:48:18 ◼   ► good idea for so many reasons you know [TS]

00:48:20 ◼   ► how the song goes [TS]

00:48:21 ◼   ► all you gotta do is get to the mechanics [TS]

00:48:23 ◼   ► no no nothing's easy or simple but you [TS]

00:48:25 ◼   ► get through the mechanics of recording [TS]

00:48:27 ◼   ► that and shit man your juices are going [TS]

00:48:28 ◼   ► again shit man [TS]

00:48:29 ◼   ► yeah shit sucks shit dog shit but so [TS]

00:48:33 ◼   ► that song goes for 45 47 46 845 4746 a [TS]

00:48:43 ◼   ► comment letting you are consciously [TS]

00:48:46 ◼   ► going like I want to make a rush son [TS]

00:48:47 ◼   ► no no I was just like I i wrote the 54 [TS]

00:48:51 ◼   ► part first I really liked it and you [TS]

00:48:54 ◼   ► know was jamming along on it and then if [TS]

00:48:57 ◼   ► you simply stay in five four that's fine [TS]

00:49:00 ◼   ► but you need you need something to jazz [TS]

00:49:04 ◼   ► it a little bit and 54 274 feels amazing [TS]

00:49:07 ◼   ► because just two more right [TS]

00:49:11 ◼   ► yep identity longer want to get the [TS]

00:49:12 ◼   ► higher numerators you notice the [TS]

00:49:17 ◼   ► weirdness last 54 when you sit there [TS]

00:49:19 ◼   ► listening to take five the the official [TS]

00:49:22 ◼   ► song of white people everywhere the [TS]

00:49:24 ◼   ► official chance song of the whites don't [TS]

00:49:27 ◼   ► go don't don't don't like that really [TS]

00:49:29 ◼   ► feels like a little wonky but when you [TS]

00:49:32 ◼   ► get into the higher ones you don't [TS]

00:49:33 ◼   ► notice like a return on again you would [TS]

00:49:35 ◼   ► not notice that that is such a crazy [TS]

00:49:36 ◼   ► time soon well here's the thing about [TS]

00:49:38 ◼   ► 13-8 ok right yeah yeah it's 13-8 it's [TS]

00:49:45 ◼   ► an 8 is 64 twice plus 1 [TS]

00:49:49 ◼   ► well I mean most obviously i think sir [TS]

00:49:52 ◼   ► most obviously it's for 43 x plus 1 [TS]

00:49:55 ◼   ► well see if you're going to be like that [TS]

00:49:57 ◼   ► no it's basically it's basically play [TS]

00:49:59 ◼   ► for but uh three bars of a rock song and [TS]

00:50:02 ◼   ► then atopy yeah just add one beats so [TS]

00:50:04 ◼   ► all it all so that added beat feels like [TS]

00:50:09 ◼   ► that's how that's five for you know [TS]

00:50:12 ◼   ► that's a I mean that the extra beat is [TS]

00:50:15 ◼   ► just as easy to throw in and the rest [TS]

00:50:18 ◼   ► just feels like 44 the ninety-nine [TS]

00:50:20 ◼   ► percent of the tune if that's how you're [TS]

00:50:22 ◼   ► playing it or if you're playing six and [TS]

00:50:24 ◼   ► like you know you you do the pattern you [TS]

00:50:26 ◼   ► do it three times and then you hit a [TS]

00:50:27 ◼   ► little like butt up [TS]

00:50:29 ◼   ► that's like that's it I feel like that's [TS]

00:50:32 ◼   ► pretty County like everybody's kind of [TS]

00:50:35 ◼   ► counting it until they until they're [TS]

00:50:37 ◼   ► just feeling it and they're following [TS]

00:50:38 ◼   ► the most yes but that stuff is super fun [TS]

00:50:43 ◼   ► and then you throw then then you go into [TS]

00:50:44 ◼   ► like Soundgarden land and that's my [TS]

00:50:48 ◼   ► least favorite part disneyland [TS]

00:50:49 ◼   ► Soundgarden lands and garden land so [TS]

00:50:52 ◼   ► soon darling farah Sarah not for Aryan [TS]

00:50:58 ◼   ► or sitting there for other that's that's [TS]

00:51:01 ◼   ► the other band some garden is what I [TS]

00:51:04 ◼   ► singing you're seeing the last of the [TS]

00:51:06 ◼   ► Pearl Jam i'll be doing pretty news to [TS]

00:51:08 ◼   ► the tune of any better [TS]

00:51:09 ◼   ► well but I know like watching got [TS]

00:51:11 ◼   ► anything for firm firm isn't using [TS]

00:51:16 ◼   ► backup on that [TS]

00:51:17 ◼   ► yeah yeah because that was a that was in [TS]

00:51:21 ◼   ► the green event that was the band went [TS]

00:51:23 ◼   ► well anybody was never in the Green [TS]

00:51:24 ◼   ► River pan and either either was chris [TS]

00:51:26 ◼   ► cornell so you can talk with the hat and [TS]

00:51:28 ◼   ► the base was in green river got that the [TS]

00:51:30 ◼   ► base was in green river and stone [TS]

00:51:32 ◼   ► gossard was Stone geyser see green river [TS]

00:51:36 ◼   ► was Pearl Jam plus Mudhoney mm were [TS]

00:51:39 ◼   ► genius bus love equals Jackie Rogers Jr [TS]

00:51:42 ◼   ► but you're thinking of temple of the dog [TS]

00:51:48 ◼   ► I want to reach down and pick the crowd [TS]

00:51:52 ◼   ► up [TS]

00:51:53 ◼   ► Wow which one is that that's a ro [TS]

00:51:56 ◼   ► hardware at home ground that's what that [TS]

00:52:03 ◼   ► is her for all and that was the one so [TS]

00:52:09 ◼   ► that song is confusing it's like it's [TS]

00:52:11 ◼   ► like a rat King just it is recommended [TS]

00:52:13 ◼   ► difficult to figure out all these bands [TS]

00:52:15 ◼   ► that was the introduction that the world [TS]

00:52:17 ◼   ► had any better they never heard of him [TS]

00:52:18 ◼   ► before and that music video of them i [TS]

00:52:22 ◼   ► guess standing on a beach around the [TS]

00:52:23 ◼   ► campfire the hungry song [TS]

00:52:25 ◼   ► yeah I I thought it was the one before [TS]

00:52:29 ◼   ► Jeremy 10e room for all yeah butBut [TS]

00:52:34 ◼   ► evenflo kit so my back about Linda [TS]

00:52:37 ◼   ► shoulder day hope my understanding of [TS]

00:52:40 ◼   ► that era which let me let me just jump [TS]

00:52:42 ◼   ► out and say is pretty comprehensive is [TS]

00:52:46 ◼   ► that temple of the dog came out that was [TS]

00:52:49 ◼   ► chris cornell anything for anybody [TS]

00:52:51 ◼   ► following along at home who doesn't care [TS]

00:52:54 ◼   ► mhm uh what you need to start caring huh [TS]

00:52:57 ◼   ► stop not caring is one of my that's [TS]

00:53:00 ◼   ► awesome she likes so wise right stop not [TS]

00:53:04 ◼   ► care about not caring so uh there there [TS]

00:53:07 ◼   ► was a guy in seattle named Andrew Wood [TS]

00:53:09 ◼   ► who fronted a band called the what the [TS]

00:53:14 ◼   ► fuck were they called mother love bone [TS]

00:53:16 ◼   ► monotone of bone Mother Love Bone mother [TS]

00:53:19 ◼   ► love bone but the money's money from [TS]

00:53:21 ◼   ► Seattle [TS]

00:53:22 ◼   ► oh yeah keep it out of my face keep down [TS]

00:53:24 ◼   ► my face that's right touch me I'm sick [TS]

00:53:26 ◼   ► touch me I'm sick she didn't like there [TS]

00:53:28 ◼   ► we go there and they're not a whole [TS]

00:53:29 ◼   ► different place working with all that [TS]

00:53:31 ◼   ► you know the lead singer of money is he [TS]

00:53:36 ◼   ► works at sub pop records huh [TS]

00:53:38 ◼   ► he's still around essence you know [TS]

00:53:40 ◼   ► they're all still around because Seattle [TS]

00:53:42 ◼   ► you know what I mean like yeah [TS]

00:53:44 ◼   ► everybody's down with the cause here [TS]

00:53:45 ◼   ► it's like a college town [TS]

00:53:47 ◼   ► those guys are definitely down there [TS]

00:53:48 ◼   ► down with the struggle but Andrew Wood [TS]

00:53:51 ◼   ► was very flamboyant lead singer of [TS]

00:53:53 ◼   ► Mother Love Bone during the era where it [TS]

00:53:56 ◼   ► was unclear whether seattle was going to [TS]

00:53:58 ◼   ► be like a hair metal town [TS]

00:54:01 ◼   ► or whether it was going to be something [TS]

00:54:03 ◼   ► else like a shitty grungy town which is [TS]

00:54:05 ◼   ► what it ended up that ended up being [TS]

00:54:07 ◼   ► popular [TS]

00:54:08 ◼   ► oh there we go mother love bone so [TS]

00:54:10 ◼   ► mother love bone was that they were here [TS]

00:54:11 ◼   ► farmers and they were wearing scarves [TS]

00:54:14 ◼   ► and I make us kind of glam very super [TS]

00:54:16 ◼   ► glam and it was coming out of the like [TS]

00:54:18 ◼   ► poison a put a cherry on it whatever [TS]

00:54:23 ◼   ► LACMA look at that they do I had no idea [TS]

00:54:26 ◼   ► they look a little bit done yeah yeah [TS]

00:54:28 ◼   ► where you're like you know jellyfish [TS]

00:54:30 ◼   ► minus pop gonna have like a 60 throwback [TS]

00:54:33 ◼   ► kind of thing [TS]

00:54:34 ◼   ► yeah but that was what was happening in [TS]

00:54:35 ◼   ► 89 right everybody's wearing Paisley [TS]

00:54:37 ◼   ► shirts with sure the sleeves and and [TS]

00:54:40 ◼   ► we're going to type of guitars and like [TS]

00:54:43 ◼   ► put a what look what the cat dragged in [TS]

00:54:46 ◼   ► style like like teased hair and so that [TS]

00:54:50 ◼   ► band also had a I mean they were like [TS]

00:54:55 ◼   ► one of the be bands here at the time and [TS]

00:55:00 ◼   ► stone gossard was also in that just [TS]

00:55:04 ◼   ► meant was in the band so they went from [TS]

00:55:07 ◼   ► the from the one bandwidth Mudhoney [TS]

00:55:10 ◼   ► where they were pulled in different [TS]

00:55:12 ◼   ► directions because if you look at the if [TS]

00:55:13 ◼   ► you look at Green River that the mud [TS]

00:55:18 ◼   ► hunt so hats half Mudhoney Steve Turner [TS]

00:55:21 ◼   ► the guitar player of money is in green [TS]

00:55:25 ◼   ► apple green river there was also being [TS]

00:55:28 ◼   ► called green-apple quick-step and I keep [TS]

00:55:30 ◼   ► stumbling over the who but so those guys [TS]

00:55:33 ◼   ► were punk and then stone and Jeff were [TS]

00:55:37 ◼   ► like glam and in seattle the time you [TS]

00:55:40 ◼   ► can just do that when I'm you don't mean [TS]

00:55:42 ◼   ► just do that you just have a band that [TS]

00:55:45 ◼   ► was like a funk have claimed but then it [TS]

00:55:49 ◼   ► turned into a mother love bone which was [TS]

00:55:53 ◼   ► all blam all the time [TS]

00:55:56 ◼   ► okay all glam no sham mhm as what we [TS]

00:55:59 ◼   ► used to not say [TS]

00:56:01 ◼   ► and Andrew Wood was one of these guys it [TS]

00:56:06 ◼   ► was like Hello cannot get the ladies up [TS]

00:56:08 ◼   ► here you know he was like a David Lee [TS]

00:56:09 ◼   ► Roth we kind of yeah right and he was [TS]

00:56:12 ◼   ► wait a minute wait for essen wait for it [TS]

00:56:15 ◼   ► chris cornell's roommate and best friend [TS]

00:56:18 ◼   ► turns out turns out chris cornell's [TS]

00:56:21 ◼   ► roommate and best friend and chris [TS]

00:56:22 ◼   ► cornell is in Soundgarden hair soon as [TS]

00:56:26 ◼   ► garden Stein and but Soundgarden was not [TS]

00:56:29 ◼   ► especially glam they were much more they [TS]

00:56:32 ◼   ► weren't they weren't like punk either [TS]

00:56:34 ◼   ► they were like at all they were Zeppelin [TS]

00:56:36 ◼   ► II mattaponi metal yeah but now we do [TS]

00:56:38 ◼   ► with the melvins from Seattle the [TS]

00:56:40 ◼   ► melvins were from Olympia Wash okay [TS]

00:56:42 ◼   ► sorry alright and they were they repped [TS]

00:56:45 ◼   ► south sound pretty hard but they were [TS]

00:56:47 ◼   ► the melvins were III them again the [TS]

00:56:50 ◼   ► racking free Melvin's are more like [TS]

00:56:52 ◼   ► sabes e.e will ya like punky saben lucky [TS]

00:56:56 ◼   ► Sabbath yeah but Melvin's were very [TS]

00:56:58 ◼   ► influential because the melvins where [TS]

00:57:00 ◼   ► the band that Kurt Cobain wanted to be [TS]

00:57:02 ◼   ► in they were them they were the cool [TS]

00:57:04 ◼   ► band that that Nirvana like was always [TS]

00:57:07 ◼   ► sort of like hey guys can we carry your [TS]

00:57:10 ◼   ► amps Catholic it was they were seriously [TS]

00:57:12 ◼   ► they were like the godfathers of that [TS]

00:57:15 ◼   ► vibe but the melvins had no time for any [TS]

00:57:18 ◼   ► of this bullshit who they were just they [TS]

00:57:20 ◼   ► weren't into glam they were doing their [TS]

00:57:22 ◼   ► own South CS South like Olympia style [TS]

00:57:26 ◼   ► that's the shit where they had like moss [TS]

00:57:28 ◼   ► growing in there in their nostrils and [TS]

00:57:31 ◼   ► stuff like that part of washington is [TS]

00:57:35 ◼   ► just what what is the equivalent and [TS]

00:57:37 ◼   ► there is no equivalent in California [TS]

00:57:39 ◼   ► there are definitely equivalents in a in [TS]

00:57:43 ◼   ► Oregon to this it's like a college town [TS]

00:57:47 ◼   ► full of a narco hippie kind of santa [TS]

00:57:51 ◼   ► cruz no Santa Cruz to its to clean and [TS]

00:57:56 ◼   ► to surfer who died and for sure Santa [TS]

00:57:58 ◼   ► Cruz oriented toward the water and in [TS]

00:58:01 ◼   ► the sort of olympia aberdeen nexus it is [TS]

00:58:04 ◼   ► also oriented to the water but but it's [TS]

00:58:07 ◼   ► like oriented to more like add dragging [TS]

00:58:10 ◼   ► the river for bodies kind of way exactly [TS]

00:58:11 ◼   ► like a like you go out there [TS]

00:58:14 ◼   ► you're harvesting sealife em and then [TS]

00:58:18 ◼   ► you're bringing it back and selling it [TS]

00:58:20 ◼   ► in order to pump up the tires on your [TS]

00:58:22 ◼   ► mobile home because you keep thinking [TS]

00:58:24 ◼   ► that you're gonna put it behind the [TS]

00:58:25 ◼   ► truck and trailer somewhere that's the [TS]

00:58:27 ◼   ► spring States you know what I mean like [TS]

00:58:30 ◼   ► you know what my tires food and full-on [TS]

00:58:33 ◼   ► 19th birthday I got a fishing license [TS]

00:58:36 ◼   ► and a bag of chilled we're gonna one day [TS]

00:58:40 ◼   ► sweetheart we're gonna get out of this [TS]

00:58:41 ◼   ► town as soon as I can get the tires on [TS]

00:58:44 ◼   ► this thing up and that means I go out to [TS]

00:58:47 ◼   ► see one more time baby this town rips [TS]

00:58:49 ◼   ► the vein from your shrimp and I'm gonna [TS]

00:58:52 ◼   ► you know what I'm gonna get a license to [TS]

00:58:54 ◼   ► harvest gooey duck and when i get 14 [TS]

00:58:58 ◼   ► gooey duck i'm gonna some to Japan [TS]

00:59:00 ◼   ► I'm gonna get new tires on this rig and [TS]

00:59:02 ◼   ► we're getting out of here we're going [TS]

00:59:03 ◼   ► all the way to swim [TS]

00:59:05 ◼   ► Gordon fisherman meets of my submit yeah [TS]

00:59:09 ◼   ► okay right except their own time about [TS]

00:59:11 ◼   ► the rabbits George except there aren't [TS]

00:59:13 ◼   ► even like the colorful characters it's [TS]

00:59:17 ◼   ► kind of like old greg from the mighty [TS]

00:59:19 ◼   ► boosh wow nice pole [TS]

00:59:21 ◼   ► I'm old lady you not old greg i'm old [TS]

00:59:25 ◼   ► gregg like he comes up out of the sea [TS]

00:59:27 ◼   ► and keys it turns out he's a kurt [TS]

00:59:29 ◼   ► cobain's uncle whenever a girl named [TS]

00:59:32 ◼   ► Greg but no massey of massey another so [TS]

00:59:38 ◼   ► temple of the dog was chris cornell's [TS]

00:59:41 ◼   ► record that he wrote in tribute to his [TS]

00:59:44 ◼   ► best friend and the wood who had [TS]

00:59:46 ◼   ► recently died of a heroin overdose [TS]

00:59:49 ◼   ► he was the first big rock star of the [TS]

00:59:51 ◼   ► Seattle seen two died of heroin and it [TS]

00:59:55 ◼   ► was was it has John he was not the last [TS]

00:59:57 ◼   ► my friend in some ways he [TS]

00:59:57 ◼   ► my friend in some ways he [TS]

01:00:00 ◼   ► he set the tone which was hey if you're [TS]

01:00:03 ◼   ► going to be a big deal in this town [TS]

01:00:04 ◼   ► you're gonna have to die of heroin [TS]

01:00:05 ◼   ► yeah but so temple of the dog was the [TS]

01:00:09 ◼   ► big tribute record the chris cornell [TS]

01:00:12 ◼   ► road and then right at the last minute a [TS]

01:00:15 ◼   ► his pals we're starting this new band [TS]

01:00:18 ◼   ► with this kid from California named [TS]

01:00:20 ◼   ► Eddie better and very generously i like [TS]

01:00:23 ◼   ► to think it was a very generous move on [TS]

01:00:25 ◼   ► chris cornell's part it was like well [TS]

01:00:27 ◼   ► why don't you sing on my tribute record [TS]

01:00:29 ◼   ► to Andy would a guy sang lead on that [TS]

01:00:31 ◼   ► song a guy you never met writer I mean [TS]

01:00:33 ◼   ► if any better met Andy would it was not [TS]

01:00:35 ◼   ► his behind music my friend i did not [TS]

01:00:37 ◼   ► know these things that won't know any [TS]

01:00:39 ◼   ► better wouldn't really have met Andy [TS]

01:00:40 ◼   ► would because the reason that stone [TS]

01:00:42 ◼   ► gossard and Jeff meant even met any [TS]

01:00:45 ◼   ► better was because their bandwidth and [TS]

01:00:49 ◼   ► he would had just broken up because any [TS]

01:00:51 ◼   ► one time and so they were like what we [TS]

01:00:53 ◼   ► got we know we want to do this let's [TS]

01:00:54 ◼   ► form a new band and we'll put out a call [TS]

01:00:57 ◼   ► for singers so Eddie so chris cornell's [TS]

01:01:01 ◼   ► like yeah man why don't you sing on this [TS]

01:01:02 ◼   ► tribute to my old best pal that was the [TS]

01:01:05 ◼   ► singer of your bandmates old band and [TS]

01:01:08 ◼   ► like here you go why don't you take the [TS]

01:01:10 ◼   ► lead on this tune that becomes the big [TS]

01:01:13 ◼   ► MTV smash that really touched off the [TS]

01:01:17 ◼   ► whole pearl jam Soundgarden metal side [TS]

01:01:20 ◼   ► of MTV brunch for da boom stick the [TS]

01:01:25 ◼   ► landing Seattle rock history to pow boom [TS]

01:01:31 ◼   ► there it is you and all those bros all [TS]

01:01:34 ◼   ► those bros knew each other and we're all [TS]

01:01:37 ◼   ► broke pals back in the day and your good [TS]

01:01:39 ◼   ► friend Jason thin also knew all those [TS]

01:01:42 ◼   ► bros look at that the check in Austin's [TS]

01:01:44 ◼   ► back to Jason Jason fin he was there he [TS]

01:01:46 ◼   ► was there and his band love battery [TS]

01:01:49 ◼   ► right we're not very good let's be [TS]

01:01:53 ◼   ► honest [TS]

01:01:55 ◼   ► um but uh I didn't ever tell you the [TS]

01:01:59 ◼   ► story we were walking down the street [TS]

01:02:00 ◼   ► one time it seems like now many years [TS]

01:02:03 ◼   ► ago but he was probably already 33 years [TS]

01:02:05 ◼   ► old and he's like God unless I'm gonna [TS]

01:02:07 ◼   ► get a tattoo like do you have any [TS]

01:02:09 ◼   ► tattoos now now [TS]

01:02:11 ◼   ► well you're you're in your thirties why [TS]

01:02:14 ◼   ► are you getting a tattoo [TS]

01:02:15 ◼   ► I'm gonna get a tattoo of love battery i [TS]

01:02:18 ◼   ► was like love battery your band broke up [TS]

01:02:19 ◼   ► ten years ago [TS]

01:02:20 ◼   ► he's like that's right and so we walked [TS]

01:02:23 ◼   ► into a tattoo parlor [TS]

01:02:25 ◼   ► I don't even know why I don't know why I [TS]

01:02:26 ◼   ► was there you just encountered him on [TS]

01:02:28 ◼   ► the streets a lot you run into him a lot [TS]

01:02:29 ◼   ► yeah give me any of your anecdotes [TS]

01:02:31 ◼   ► involving Jason Finn involves running [TS]

01:02:34 ◼   ► into him on the street now you run into [TS]

01:02:35 ◼   ► when you guys go ahead a little [TS]

01:02:36 ◼   ► adventure that's what you do in certain [TS]

01:02:38 ◼   ► questions about what he's doing in that [TS]

01:02:39 ◼   ► neighborhood if he has questions about [TS]

01:02:41 ◼   ► what I'm doing but uh but so I where he [TS]

01:02:45 ◼   ► went we went into this tattoo parlor was [TS]

01:02:47 ◼   ► back behind the hair salon kind of up [TS]

01:02:49 ◼   ► above the taqueria express and he sits [TS]

01:02:52 ◼   ► in the chair and he's like here's what i [TS]

01:02:53 ◼   ► want and he pulls out the cover art to [TS]

01:02:56 ◼   ► his Sub Pop release from 1990 or [TS]

01:03:00 ◼   ► something like that he's like put that [TS]

01:03:01 ◼   ► on my arm and it's the only tattoo he [TS]

01:03:04 ◼   ► has swag wow yeah and it was some kind [TS]

01:03:07 ◼   ► of retro at the time I was like is this [TS]

01:03:10 ◼   ► revisionist are you putting this tattoo [TS]

01:03:12 ◼   ► on you as though you had it on then all [TS]

01:03:15 ◼   ► i see i've had this shirt all along [TS]

01:03:17 ◼   ► yeah exactly you know what I mean my ass [TS]

01:03:19 ◼   ► your band but you didn't get a tattoo of [TS]

01:03:22 ◼   ► your band when it was a bad now you're [TS]

01:03:23 ◼   ► getting it as post band [TS]

01:03:26 ◼   ► it would also be like you have to [TS]

01:03:27 ◼   ► Instagram a little bit i mean you know [TS]

01:03:29 ◼   ► what I mean a filter like you wouldn't [TS]

01:03:30 ◼   ► want the because you can for some pretty [TS]

01:03:32 ◼   ► good inc at this point you want to get [TS]

01:03:33 ◼   ► the shitty tattoo he would had in 1992 [TS]

01:03:37 ◼   ► happy legit but but he said no it's not [TS]

01:03:39 ◼   ► revisionist I just you know that band [TS]

01:03:41 ◼   ► was very important to me and i want to i [TS]

01:03:44 ◼   ► want to commemorate its good for him and [TS]

01:03:46 ◼   ► what's what's really sad is that when [TS]

01:03:48 ◼   ► love battery gets together now to play [TS]

01:03:50 ◼   ► shows i don't think they I think they [TS]

01:03:52 ◼   ► get a different from her behind not [TS]

01:03:55 ◼   ► because Jason isn't a fantastic drummer [TS]

01:03:57 ◼   ► but just because Seattle music politics [TS]

01:03:59 ◼   ► is weird and I think maybe Jason's less [TS]

01:04:02 ◼   ► horrible that's like the world's least [TS]

01:04:03 ◼   ► interesting oh Henry story [TS]

01:04:05 ◼   ► well except here at six and Jason like [TS]

01:04:07 ◼   ► left love [TS]

01:04:08 ◼   ► Adrian alerts when he got cherry picked [TS]

01:04:11 ◼   ► to be investing that man they still [TS]

01:04:12 ◼   ► planning [TS]

01:04:13 ◼   ► yeah well no he's not anymore because [TS]

01:04:15 ◼   ► the singer of the presidents of the USA [TS]

01:04:17 ◼   ► Today music now decided he wanted to do [TS]

01:04:19 ◼   ► kids music exclusive for baby pants and [TS]

01:04:22 ◼   ► that's right Casper baby follow him on [TS]

01:04:24 ◼   ► the Twitter he's a very big deal and his [TS]

01:04:26 ◼   ► music is very spectacular right and he [TS]

01:04:29 ◼   ► was like you know what being in a rock [TS]

01:04:30 ◼   ► band for a people that are playing for [TS]

01:04:33 ◼   ► grownups all the time [TS]

01:04:34 ◼   ► hmm means that i have to travel around [TS]

01:04:36 ◼   ► ladies shows for dummies and everybody's [TS]

01:04:40 ◼   ► john sloan in and make five or six [TS]

01:04:43 ◼   ► figures and reschedule you for the [TS]

01:04:44 ◼   ► weekend [TS]

01:04:45 ◼   ► yeah but he's you know it's it's it's [TS]

01:04:47 ◼   ► honestly like I local dude to yeah he [TS]

01:04:50 ◼   ► doesn't need the money and I'll caspar [TS]

01:04:51 ◼   ► babypants but believe me I understand [TS]

01:04:54 ◼   ► yeah he's a guy that's like I don't want [TS]

01:04:55 ◼   ► to stay up until midnight to wait to [TS]