Ep. 205: "Space Clarinets"
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hello hi John
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I'm Merlin how's it going good i really
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like your new avatar your skype avatar
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thank you dr. head or whatever dr.
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Scarface and shiny thing where I change
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things periodically oh whoa you just
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recently change your passwords can say
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uh oh my i'm always change my passwords
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when you have a new password do you make
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it so that it's something that you can
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type quickly or is it something that you
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have to kind of spider type like at
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spider typing okay actually asking
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yeah I would never choose a password
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that i can remember i see and i use a
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little computer program that remembers
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my passwords for me
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how do you remember the computer program
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huh who blue penis is the blue penis man
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I mean I mean I mean
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whoa words all the way I mean what oh so
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you just have the password to you have
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the password to the computer machine
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yes and it has the passwords to
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everything i have a password to the
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computer machine and then my password
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program has passed phrase which is a
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long sentence that type that in and then
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that lets me get to individual passwords
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oh I see you have a passphrase a
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passphrase you have a pass phrase which
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is like opposite dolorem upset dolorem
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consecutive MIT this is ronnie was
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Ronnie and it's something that only you
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could know i don't know maybe my want to
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talk about it it's not photos of your
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it's not what mr. Fidel did everybody
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hear from mr. fail did see that's the
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bigger wouldn't work exactly because
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nobody knows that's that's my passphrase
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he came prodigiously in his shorts but i
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changed all those two zeros because I'm
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leet wow you learned about that in 4chan
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I yeah sure i'm not a new but I'm i
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right am i right
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this is terrific do-si-do radical Ali's
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totally i do inverted Mobius oh is that
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my trick move him inverted Mobius if you
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started inverted Mobius be allowed to
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finish it is just keep turning around
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hand I think you're finished with you
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when you land and pitches no matter
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where you are on the loop i don't know
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exactly why our when this started but
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for some reason uh maybe starting a few
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months ago whenever I see some some kid
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walk around the neighborhood vaping i
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would say first interest in my head I go
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68 bro huh
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and then increasingly i would kind of
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say it under my breath ago six great bro
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break if something happened in the last
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couple weeks and I I don't even realize
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i'm doing it i just go sick bro which
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now I'm making friends well now i'm
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doing it for skateboarding tricks and it
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feels pretty good so we're using sick
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vape bro two people could further
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skateboarder they don't land the trick
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it feels it feels so good and it feels
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so right because there's 200 you know
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you see those people that they look a
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little bit he kept off their tribal or
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merely live in a car and it's it's a
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it's a guy who could be 16 or it could
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be 60 and he keeps riding a skateboard
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and try to jump over the bike rack and
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he keeps making a big noise and falling
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down and doing it over now first of all
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I want to say to this young or old man
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you know hakuna matata I admire your
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persistence for feeling the need to
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write a children's toy over a bike rack
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stick with that letters they're going to
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get a lot of letters
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yeah I know it's hard when i think about
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vapor yeah i think your piping of your
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friend Scott Simpson family he's not
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really a vapor though I'm no see we talk
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about what's the dividing line between
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one who babysat a vapor I think it's one
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thing to have an ethernet wizard
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cigarette and it's quite another thing
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to have that little RTT dildo is ok
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alright I see what you're saying
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when you get you wonder like this is
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probably what futurist from the forties
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thought it would look like if you had
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polio or asthma in 2016 this is what he
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who continues I will take a minuscule
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amount of my space medicine food and
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litter name is Dan tenten tenten isn't a
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yeah it is it a baby christmas Benny
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Goodman signal yeah like a space
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clarinet i don't know why i don't know
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why i think it's quite so funny as i do
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except that it's one of those things
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where you're like an old person you see
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something that perfectly encapsulate the
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silliness of a certain generation
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regardless of whether the individual
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people are or are not rhodes scholars
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and good people
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there's something that just encapsulated
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like what we're gonna laugh about and
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you see this in something like when you
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first see a movie that sends up a trend
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that's 15 to 20 years old so yeah you
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know you show a movie about that's
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essentially what the late eighties and
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there's gotta be some kid with like at
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all fade and it's gonna be some people
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in like neon clothing there's the kinds
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of things that immediately jump out to
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oh my god that's all remember hat we can
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look but there's that thing that jumps
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out at you that it takes 15 years to
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really sink in for most normal people we
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go oh my god that's so weird that we all
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did that and that seemed normal for a
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yeah well think about like at the time
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River Phoenix hair seemed like it was
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like a fat right you'll see it mocked in
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that kind of Arab like long wispy bangs
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across your space
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no kid got it you're talking about that
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did leonardo dicaprio Titanic Arab
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that's right that's right i think of it
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as River Phoenix sure I think he was
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their first I think that the key was the
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John the Baptist's to that no for
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shizzle
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but but whatever Phoenix air turns out
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who is a perennial style where we're
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always going to have river phoenix area
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I think it's kinda cool actually that's
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right ok so if I was out if I was out to
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do and always I would have little track
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I've had it I've had it
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anytime but do you remember there was a
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done you may not because you might have
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been sequestered somewhere in florida
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where army jackets didn't have a
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mustache
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yeah but in the questionable situation
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is one of the primary performance
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characteristics of Florida yeah right
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for precisely i mean because you're all
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preparing for the for the the super wave
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yeah NP the Jesus losing sports losing
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sports the entire state just doing that
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was a great canneries me for making
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anyone without losing sports losing
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yeah that's actually the brand of my
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underwear oh well but there's one that's
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the silver in it gets over it now that's
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different the silver underwear is
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different that your feet are for
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protecting underwear it it's a it's like
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a Faraday cage
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well thanks it's a Faraday cage for your
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for your business
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it keeps the the the electromagnetic
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pulse out of my junk that's nice i was
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on the eff site day and a half ago and i
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saw i was buying some eff items and I
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saw that they have several are fit
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protecting things you can get you cannot
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get our foot protector for your passport
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you can get one free wallet is the eff
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site the one that listens to the signals
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radio station from the linkages with
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Jeff Tweety know it's the Electronic
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Frontier Foundation and they're trying
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to protect us from things they have a
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seed bank
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all right exactly the seed bank people
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are you know hang on a minute talking
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about like a survivalist thing about
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like rubber see if you don't think of
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the WWF the World Wrestling Federation
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that protects the pandas a lot of people
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their seed bank is just a pile of the
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abuse issue but ok I'm gonna help seed
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bank right here talking about his back
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weeks i know i want to go but I want to
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go back and revisit the idea of it
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alright a whole day thing I want to get
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back I want to get back to this see fit
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thing you're talking about or whatever
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whatever i just missed it all our fish
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are fed but uh but no I remember very
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distinctly in the early nineties when
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the when the first wave of not not like
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raver the first wave of ravers I think
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of as sort of madchester
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manchester ravers right but the second
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wave of waivers if you will where they
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were where they all had pacifiers and
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giant pants and they were wearing shop
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classes and they would they're very
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Burning Man II like they had they had
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goggles on bottom
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yeah and I know I know what you mean it
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wasn't there was a cross over there was
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the because he had I mean not be too
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precious about this but you have like
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house music it was kind of a thing I was
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right presents but then the Madchester
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came along and you had all that bullshit
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like happy mondays which I wish I still
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can't believe anybody like and what
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wasn't letting you know it was our
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program it's a lot of stomping and a lot
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of screaming and and it wasn't very good
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and i could really sing in the music
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wasn't really any particular kind of
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music but it was of its time and so
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people go and they dance around that
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because their english and then and
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favorite
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yes yes yes recently French hmm how
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butBut second wave i was a friend when
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you get into more the the statistic and
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stuff right now we get the waivers I was
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afraid of a that I was kind of like with
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the with the space clarinet
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yeah it seemed like wait a minute is
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this the thing we're all going to laugh
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or is this the have we turn to the page
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is this the new because everybody going
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to be doing this in 15 years and will
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never remember a time like having a foot
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in both those worlds on the one hand you
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clearly it's silly for grown men to wear
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clown pants and have a pacifier on the
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other hand like you know I you know I
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don't reject everything out and just
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don't understand it well exactly right
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and and there are so many things right
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now I was thinking about this the other
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day so many so many things right now
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where you're like is this the is are we
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at the beginning of a thing where this
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is the this is a lasting I'm missing out
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it's like it's like it's like will be
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like in 1969 like I'm not doing snapchat
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I told the snapshot i find it totally
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confusing my the guy who goes like I'm
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not gonna watch the moon landing because
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that's not such a big deal right
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ru ru on the wrong side of history right
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or I mean in particular right now we
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have so many ideas that are fashionable
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so many ideas about what the what the
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futures gonna look like or how I got my
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whole life my whole young life I was
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like dad you don't know anything
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perfect dirt and then as I got older I
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was like all turns out my dad knew some
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now we're in a cultural moment where
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there's a whole generation of people
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like you don't know anything and maybe
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they're right
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hmm or maybe they work a stranger John
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yeah maybe their culture maybe it's
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maybe some of these ideas are cultural
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called a sec it's really hard to know I
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agree how we're gonna be in 15 years
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would always get the thing is that there
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are certain kinds of things like you
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know in retrospect looking at video of
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civil rights protesters like they had
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everything going for them they had they
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had had a really shitty history as human
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beings terrible things were visited upon
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them and yet they looked cool
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the acting cool they were tough as nails
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and like to see like a well-dressed
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black woman getting hit with a fire hose
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you're like holy shit how could anybody
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not look at that and go
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god I hope that lady wins whatever it is
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that she's winning yes even if it's a
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weird idea even like but even like I was
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watching a watching Muhammad Ali a
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biography the other night like a
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documentary and like you say what you
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will about loose connection of Islam but
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man those guys look sharp
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they look sharp that was a great look
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and so in retrospect that yeah the
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candidate plus pluses and minuses but
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I'm trying to say is you cannot always
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judge the space clarinets and the
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waivers in the burning and burning hair
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that's right you can't always judge it
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by how well they pull off the fashion
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park is there could be an a/c the back
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to the seed bank a seat of a fantastic
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idea buried inside all those clown pants
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this is what I worry about because if I
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if I if I launched myself back into the
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early eighties when i'm watching buck
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rogers in the 21st century there was a
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lot of dancing in that television show
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that revolved around people each
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grabbing one end of a scarf
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sometimes a long ghazi scarf and and
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kind of waltzing around as though around
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the Maypole except there's no pole
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they're just holding the scarf up in the
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air and with things like fancy chamber
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music well
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sort of except play through space
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closest space space space again right so
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it was space music and they were doing
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this dance that seemed kind of like a
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cut like a mating dance but they were
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obviously very sophisticated space
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people of the future and it actually
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kind of connected to the dancing that
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they did in the Bill and Ted's Excellent
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Adventure sort of you know the guitar
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swooping everything in the future as
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seen from the eighties involved some
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kind of hand motion dancing is kinda
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like like what like morris dancing meets
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rhythmic gymnastics who is except very
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slow right it always timed first slowly
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like the buck rogers dancing was very
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slow so was the guitar swooping motion
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of Bill and Ted it was all very you know
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it's not like frenetic dancing and so
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you so you look now and you think ours
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are we actually closer to the future
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with with the goggles in the the clown
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pants and the vaping then we are because
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you know when I see a picture of Malcolm
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X in nineteen sixty or when i see that
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you know the the people in Selma like
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you're absolutely right there is sitting
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there at the lunch counter like inland
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necktie there's no better fashion in the
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history of times so badass and 1959 to
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1962 and you wonder like it's sort of
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like the cars the cars of 1967 why don't
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we just go back to that we've never let
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you know in this is the crazy is I sound
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like absolutely crazy person but because
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but i think because those passions
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actually predate me i'm not doing the
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weird nostalgia thing of like why what
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hey why don't we just all drive 1987
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cars which would sound crazy but to say
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1967 cars from before I was born
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that doesn't sound crazy room 18 when
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they just doesn't sound crazy but the
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problem is the people do try to do that
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but when they do it would be like going
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to like the cheap carnival in town where
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they want to draw the caricature of you
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with the giant head kicking a soccer
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ball and that's not really what i look
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like that's what you get for buck feels
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like he's 57 like if you were actually
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seen one of these cards these things you
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you think that people make today looking
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box that arise from amazon it just
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happens to be painted orange yeah yeah I
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one time I was walking across the
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Charles Bridge in in Prague and it's
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covered with people doing those drawings
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except they're not just thinking that
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no that was a different town so I can
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get all your brief anecdote straight
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it's like there's a lot of a lot is
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going on the bridges in Europe that's it
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that's the main because what happens is
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the people on the one side of the people
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on the other side they meet in the
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yeah let's sit down on the girlfriends
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are always feel they're doing that
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people have little contraptions where
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there there it's like an organ grinder
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and some little puppet is damn thing I'm
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sure that you'll find somebody with a
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monkey a lot of people are drawing
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there's juggling you know it's a it's
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like it's a thing half the tourists in
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Prague only go across the bridge to go
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back across the bridge got a bridge like
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that right but oh that's right you do
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but there's a lot of there's a lot of
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people that actually have to go across
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this bridge and i'm missing to think of
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it that way because like I never thought
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in quite those terms like what do you
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use for a bridge the primary use the
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bridge for most people is to go from one
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side to the other for a while and then
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probably come back the other people just
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think of the bridge that thing that you
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just go over and come back you go over
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and come back right how many people how
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many people go over the golden gate
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bridge and come back so was yesterday
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was it was so foggy and so windy and
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they're all these people out there
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taking pictures of themselves being held
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i felt that let me know when you think
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about that
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what would you estimate it was forty
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percent of the trafficker sixty percent
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as far as like obviously the foot
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traffic there's not that many people
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that are commuting from sausalito just I
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just gotta just need to get from need to
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get from the presidio up to the Marin
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Headlands for my executive job know a
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lot of people on bikes and you know and
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no matter how many times it's it never
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stopped being funny this is San
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Francisco is the TSA agent of the world
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we keep telling people
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ladies and gentlemen please I know it
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says June on your calendar
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I know it's probably june in Germany
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somewhere please please wear long and
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hoes and
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where some long pants yeah for sure sure
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you're gonna freeze your ass off but it
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was on the Charles Bridge le ok oh why
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stopped one day and this is the comments
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over the lava River Park yeah the blue
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oh yeah okay I know what you mean i'm
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sorry confused for a minute sava mm
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apparently bridge it's just a stone
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bridge is that the one that's the one
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that's exactly right it has statues
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along its wing of all be important
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saints of the Czech people and it's very
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it's one of these bridges where ya tens
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of thousands people go across that
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everyday for absolutely no reason I
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happen to feel like there's a really
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great break bakery on the other side no
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one ever goes to it because just waiting
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it's just waiting there for the normals
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for the people that are like I gotta go
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across the Charles Bridge on my way to
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work and I think probably if you lived
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there you would avoid it at certain
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times of the year but I stop there one
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time having gone across this bridge were
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not a million times but you know
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somewhere short of a million more than
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15 and there's a guy there he's drawing
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people and I'm like you know I'm gonna
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send a drawing home to my mom because is
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that isn't that a nice thing to do like
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i'll put it in the mail
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it's nice it's personal and it's unusual
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yeah and she'll open this package i want
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a shot glass or a tiny spoon
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exactly it's a little thing and and it's
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like oh I got a package and you open it
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it's a hand drawing of my son up from in
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and and it's not going to say anywhere
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on it that it was done on a bridge that
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will be part of the story that i bring
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home so I sit down this guys doing this
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drawing and he's chatting to the other
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drawers around him
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I'm not going to call them artist who
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and I get this thing what and when he's
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done i get this drawing and it is the
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spitting image of my cousin of creating
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like he just did my face just strong
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enough that looked exactly like my
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cousin's TV so much that I thought about
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sending it to Stevie like hey we haven't
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talked in awhile i have this drawing
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done of you
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let's not weekend
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and so I didn't want to send it to my
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mom because I was like this isn't a
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likeness of me but but this guys doing
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this drawing look like send me a picture
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of your cousin
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yeah right let's get a weaker this
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drawing of Stevie not sure what to do
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with it
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happy mondays so I so I carried it with
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me because I'd paid five dollars for it
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or fifteen dollars i didn't want to
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throw it away and we'll let you know
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when the guy was like your drawing I was
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like hmm
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and he said five dollars he was it was
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clear that it was clear to both of us
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that it was shite but he was like five
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dollars and are looking here you go
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I would sort of parted ways without a
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handshake or anything like right thanks
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for your help and I but I carried it
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with me I carried it with me i'm going
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to throw it away but also i'm going to
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send it to anyone and knowing I would
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never display it or use it for anything
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uh I carry it with me until it became up
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like a talismanic of a certain kind of
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thing like here's this shitty drawing
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that I can't get rid of and i eventually
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one day like unburden myself of of
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events and i think i might have even
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thrown in a river
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all units a later river huh
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tell me anyone how at risk i have i have
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to now i'm giving away a lot of stuff
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you don't want to do this people are
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going to be very upset onto this please
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don't do this
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are you are very sincerely worried you
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worried about being our passwords
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no notnot password okay don't talk more
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about morris dancing and one password
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for all my stuff oh my god had it and
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it's the name of my captain whose name
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is cat I said the name of the cat on the
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sending article about walmart and as
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there are so many fascinating but like
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reading basically about how their
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things that there just-in-time delivery
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we know about you know the ability to
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use computers to track the need for
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things and what works well what sells
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relationships gonna what's there just on
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time delivery it seems to me that if you
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order something you would like it to it
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to arrive a little bit before just on
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well jit just in time and so and so part
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of what part of walmart success comes
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warehouse is located around the u.s. and
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an ability that people like Amazon I'm
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not gonna extremely good at which is to
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anticipate what kind of stuff will be
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needed we're not just based on what
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season it is infinitely walgreens
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putting fucking fans up in an aisle in
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summertime
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spf50 that would be really handy got
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mufflers haha but the fuck know so that
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I got were being real sweet girl called
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seasonal where we put the Easter shit no
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more than that so anyway the idea that
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was just in time is that they have they
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have the ability to understand a whole
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lot of stuff about their supply chain
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from like what where the weather like
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the basic plastics are mind all the way
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in the store what goes on an end cap
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which kind of deal together classic
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pickles all that kind of stuff do you
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think do you think the Amazon knows that
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I'm gonna buy new pads for my 75 0 sixes
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like is there somebody there that's like
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whew i can feel the disturbance in the
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force as this has been explained to me
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it's not quite as creepy or magical as
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you would think but there is an element
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and we're going to come back to walmart
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but the idea with amazon is that they
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can anticipate what people in the area
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that they supply are more likely than
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not to order based on stuff so for
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probably not scientific but let's say
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that there is something that's getting
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super hot like cards against humanity
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like it's very popular card game has
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been the number one card game on but
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something like that there's a new thing
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that pops up that suddenly goes on a
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national list goes from number 7280 nine
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like within
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few days and therefore about cabbage
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patch dolls could be could be but the
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which is that a bunch of people in the
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city of San Francisco have added that
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item to their wish list or matted that
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item to their cart think about it this
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way just for the sake of argument let's
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say a hundred people in San Francisco
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have added something to their cart the
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gate given ski given a SI ASI n has gone
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into their cart if they were just for
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the just for shits and giggles to have
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10 of those in town at the even though
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they have been ordered yet
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I was you that's entirely reasonable
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because it's a pretty good chance
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somebody's gonna buy those shirts in
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somebody's cards right and so for stuff
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so for stuff they can use a whole bunch
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of different signals to figure out smart
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ways to supply so that and then
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obviously what kind of shit like you
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know cables for iphones for all kinds of
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butterflies you know every everybody
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buys on mrs. Myers that's just how it
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mrs. meyer's to spray for making your
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house smell like a watermelon
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no really people buy this I do have a
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button for hit the button tickets
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delivered to my house so your house
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smells like watermelon land grapefruit
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it used to smell like bacon and coffee
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you're sweet to say so so they got
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really good at this at the walmart and
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so on trying to get at length is that
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supposably one part of their ability to
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do this is our food technology so mean
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to me by a dingus you open the box and
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the thing is you open up the box inside
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the box of the dancing and you notice
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this is an RV this there's two creepy
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little things in it is a creepy little
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white strip and creepy little square
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oh yeah i know those and the story goes
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that those are there i think one of them
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is for loss prevention be stealing and
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the other one is an are fit that is a
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unique identifier for that serial
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numbered object right so that at a given
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time in walmart that stuff gets can to
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put on the Shelf you
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they now have like an instant idea of
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exactly how much stuff is where its it
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was designed to be for supply chain
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buttons but because your credit cards
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got a chip now because your passport has
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an R fit people are I think the concern
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people have is that you're walking by
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somebody's got a scanner going oh IC and
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so if you're entertaining hallmarks they
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could pull
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your data down but it's not like
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somebody's cruising around in a month
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you can be fairly close
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I think that's the thing is it isn't it
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isn't like you can have a drone fly over
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the sea and collect everybody's our
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foods i think it's it's much it's more
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like Bluetooth i'm guessing so this is a
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thing if I were one of those people that
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had some thing in my wallet
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yeah like you go to the gas station
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sometimes they're like hey just touch
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your wallet and we'll take your money
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yeah I'm like does not seem like a thing
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I will ever want to do I don't want to
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touch my wallet to a gas pump out we
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have the dingus when you get the little
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fob and then they take my money but it's
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not a little else
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it's a thing inside it's like your
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credit card has the RR foods or some
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other sometimes a smart champion yeah
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it's like it's like the the old app bump
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for a while people would come up and
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saved a bump he dumped your phones and
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then have a cream for that now
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ok I've got four or five people's
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personal information in my phone that
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still says like arrived at through bump
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but like you had bump some kind of bump
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technology within the card that's in
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your wallet
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yes but anyway so I have that enhanced
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driver's license and I have a past board
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and i have my my TSA supercard yeah and
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for a while I carried them around in a
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little oil sleeve like crazy like a chem
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trails person yeah you know like tinfoil
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hat and then one day I was like what is
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this this is insane like giving some
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from what am i protecting myself
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yes some Russian hacker has figured out
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a way to get my passport information
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from being close to a gas pump
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yeah I say you got here we should
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probably research this with information
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but my gut is that it was that we're
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gonna get a lot of letters you know
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people are going to tell us about
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looking at my contact link it's just
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it's just not bring me joy anymore
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is that right yeah you don't want you
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what you don't want to hear from fans we
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that's exactly what you want because i
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don't hear from ya hands contact me
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other ways and they say hello I'm
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talking about I'm talking about today i
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woke up to a slew of
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I'm doing this thing now right trying to
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look at my phone when i first wake up
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and I and I do other things in my life
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before look at my phone which is very
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difficult to do because when you unplug
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it I can clearly see just out of the
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corner of my eye that's filled with
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notifications and I'm like yeah Louie CK
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says he doesn't masturbate to to stuff
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it images on computers anymore he sits
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around and waits until a sexy idea pops
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into his head
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oh boy he's ready he's a farm-to-table
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master baby sure isn't any sits and he
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thinks about it was like mm-hmm
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I've gotta add you know like this is a
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very sexy idea
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why's it fired instead of like odds 15
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I'd better call up some some internet
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born yeah they're right that's right
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hey you know he's being self involved in
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a no and i'm in a much more engaged
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intellectual way but he is walking as
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one who now he's super wise so anyway I
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but i think the notion is that when you
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got a bunch of emails though you're
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saying how ya wear the emails offering
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you the opportunity to apply for a
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permit show now and get a lot of emails
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about people wanting to appear on a
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podcast that I do as you know and then I
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get a lot of email from people having to
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they want you to buy a website of mine
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they want to advertise on a website they
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want to write on a website of mine and
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it's just disappearing because i know
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i'm not going to write back to them but
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even the effort that it takes to archive
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/ delete the email is exhausting to me
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yeah I don't like beginning my day with
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bullshit right you have to comb through
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all these things
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yeah and I mean the thing is it would be
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like I mean look at Minority Report you
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walk around in the billboards talking
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and stuff like that it would be like
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that except the billboards act but hurt
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if I don't invite into my house to hang
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out let me ask about your program where
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you have guessed yes do you do you have
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guests that once on the Brooklyn not a
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single time
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so when people say when you get multiple
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multiple emails from people saying and I
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love and follow up just just certainly
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back i'd love to be a guest on your
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program let me tell you why would be a
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good fit
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it's a war it's an award-winning program
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yes that's been on the air for a long
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long time
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huge never had a guest never had a guest
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i see yeah there's three parts was least
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three parts to this
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and we parted us elsewhere not talk
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about with you before but you get me you
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know i get it we get a note and it said
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the first thing really let's just get
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this out of the way this is pretty
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embarrassing for me i am a huge fan of
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your podcast about productivity I just
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it's all love your podcast never gets it
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huge huge fan all the great i have to
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tell you number two I think I would be a
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great guest on your show with my new
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book uh you know a hundred and fifteen
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new ways to turbocharge your power hacks
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you won't believe what happens next and
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your mother and your father just review
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accident or far the finest wine with a
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mirror but she's my Martin great Morris
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their little cars like saving kids
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fear of the trainers with their cattle
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wrong was that the Shriners had a circus
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clowns and Shriners and being scared
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people just feel like there was a circus
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like an Arab word Alaska and what is
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that that's like a check Jones cartoon
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yeah it was very like who united that
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dancing girls with veils yeah because
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self-consciously ridiculous
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yeah but then you get the tiny cars
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where you're basically saying look at me
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communicates anymore people might really
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like i like it i wanted to smoke up i
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want a little the three quarter sized
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the rolls-royce to drive back and forth
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from school the children shiners are
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probably driving smart cars better they
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little BMW ones that look like my boy
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smart car flipping a couple years ago in
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severance of people would just turn them
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has so many fucking problems
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no but there was a thing where like
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you and a few of your buddies you can
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flip the smart car
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why with your hands I kind of don't hate
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just so much awful stuff in San
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intervene in the be any spring 1918
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wonder so here they are smart cars
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things that basically should be given
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it's like a little transporter for two
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people yeah it's not a thing you should
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buy particularly nothing you should buy
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for twenty-seven thousand dollars
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whatever cost that much
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handles energy things
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a whole like urbanist revision of the
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almost like a motorcycle
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space of thought in the space that it
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entire operation of a cityscape
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while you the nice thing about a smart
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card that I do look at you girl smart
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car is our neighborhood you know what
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our neighborhoods like and most mr.
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it's kind of weird i mean i don't think
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these streets were designed i don't know
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maybe they were designed of street
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parking
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sizes up today there's still so many
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places where you can't quite fit a car
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we're like trying to tie up your horse
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there i guess so yeah but I mean like
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you have these two driveways that are
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just like you know 989 feet of parts in
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78 feet apart where there's no way that
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the jet is gonna fit in there but it's
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more car baby
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no problem that's right when did you
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start saying yeah like Chris wallah how
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to do that
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oh yeah cool
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I I don't like smart cars and in
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particular I don't like them because
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I've been waiting 25 years for people to
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start driving those motorcycles like the
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one in akhirah do you remember the
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motorcycle in acura i'm looking it up
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right now and it was really it was only
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the leaves the aerated the animated
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program
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yeah I was like that's like a light
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cycle you know exactly you you sit back
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in it like your kind of driving a
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chopper almost like a run on that
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motorcycle
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yeah and the motorcycle is hinged in the
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middle somehow like one of those green
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goblin bikes from the 70 this is cool
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and it's like what a cool bike
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all you need to do is just extended the
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canopy a little bit and it would be an
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enclosed you know you could use those
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big fat tires that you see on the back
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of Harley's now would be a little bit
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like the motorcycle from the Batmobile
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but i like what you mean with the big
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that big fat tire
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yeah if we're gonna have if we're gonna
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have a thing like a smart car we drive
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around like perp i'm an engineer I went
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to school in Prague why not have a
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bucking one person light cycle right it
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would you just have a fucking light
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cycle into a but you know what's nice
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about this fat tires it seems to me that
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one of the problems with the motorcycle
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is the surpassingly small amount of
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surface area
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where the vehicle is touching the road
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at a given time I mean not many square
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inches of motorcycle touching the road
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if you get those big Batman tires but
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you also introduced a little bit of a
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Segway gyroscope to it that's exactly
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right you put some you put some segue
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technology we have big fat tires you
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make it you take up let's say
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particularly a Segway where you lay down
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a laying down segue but it's but you
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know those you know those scooters
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they're like commuter scooters that are
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bigger and they have big fat butts and
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people actually write them on the
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freeway but they're sitting up on it
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like a scooter like a jonathan pryce
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Brazil car if you
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well not quite it's a it's it seems like
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a lot of times it's sort of a dykes on
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bikes thing almost but like people ride
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them to work they go 65 miles an hour
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butcher but it's like it's a it's open
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in the middle kind of like a scooter so
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you can wear your I don't know what suit
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or kill terse wilt but uh if you can
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make those why can't you take a
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bat-cycle a lights light cycle and an
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acura cycle who lay back with those for
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a little bit think about them as i have
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done and then use your a your check
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engineering education to actually build
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a cool thing
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cool rad thing that would never tip over
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that would protect you from the elements
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and that probably would be able to use
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segue technology to prevent you from
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ever getting sideswiped by a little lady
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in a Volvo and then this then we'd be in
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the future right
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cars not the furniture it's a col de sac
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nobody wants that nobody wants to ride
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around in a hard chair you want to lay
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back and you're super cool motorcycle
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but the thing is that the Batman and the
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light cycle both have a real aggressive
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forward leaning position don't
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absolutely late like a crotch rocket
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yeah but the akhirah bike you're like
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your cooling out you're like it's like
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you're in an Eames chair
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mmm in fact what if you co branded it
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with a name that's pretty good
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that's more people people love stuff
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like that see it be could be mid-century
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modern except in the future
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mm okay with killing people see very
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easy amounts of free around about design
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just slightly out of reach justify which
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i think is actually what Design Within
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Reach is my goodness without it for me
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places costly it's costly but if you
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took if you took that laminated a
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plywood aesthetic of mid-century modern
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design but you made it into a super
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motorcycle you get a little bubbly would
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car the campus over be like weevil
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because we both crossed with that with a
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light cycle or a with Brazil car
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it can't fall over right you know
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whatever you can fit in your lap you get
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to ride and it becomes self-driving oh
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brother
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because I feel like a lot of the cars
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that we have now are actually designed
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after the car in the Woody Allen movie
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sleeper which even then was a chin see
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car it's like the car it's like the car
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in the tom petty video where they're out
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in the desert and they find a video game
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parlor sure remember that car and both
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of those cars it just seems like they
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built some thing out of like they
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recycled some tin foil and put it over
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books wagon bug you know that's not the
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future that's not the future future is
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mid-century modern motorcycle i'm
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looking at the the Express Isetta oh
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yeah which i think is that is the
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jonathan pryce Brazil car and only this
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it's what really its got like a door in
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the front that opens like where you
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would think we expect is google is he
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showed the Senate is a little BMW from
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it was actually a pain it was actually
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the first smart car kind of it looks
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cool i'm it's not much bigger than like
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a one of the scooters from like
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Quadrophenia well and I think that the
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idea of the of the Isetta was that it
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was a1 a2 cylinder motor it was like a
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motorcycle and its really little bit but
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the thing is not what I'm not getting a
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constant so cool
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I preachers the brazil car you open it
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got a little like you look at the front
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of the car with the windshield with the
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single windshield wiper on it you know
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like where you'd expect like the hood to
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be on a car it's got a latch you open
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that that's how you get in the car
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yeah I was breaking news when you came
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here in the GMC RV and only had one door
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really disoriented me
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some reason because now all you need is
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one door you remember the the Chevy
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Suburbans until nineteen seventy-two had
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three Doors a driver's door passenger
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door and then one door for the second
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row seats that was that seems very smart
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in its way
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so you pull up to the curb if you're in
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the backseat you're not gonna get off on
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this you're gonna get out on the streets
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they say whatever little kids said they
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slide Clyde Clyde Clyde client so the
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British armored steel it's like lot
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never have a move over over you're
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saying that i have said move over room I
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said that to my daughter about the 16
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times a day when she sits on my area my
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area of the couch that i bought icy
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River mr. seen slide Clyde I'm gonna say
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move over over whenever someone is on my
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side of the bed because i have a clear
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side of the bed don't get myself it's
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not complicated
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you know what I mean I complicated you
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walked into my room you know what side
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of the bed isn't babies understand half
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that's right if we're in a hotel
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yeah you should want change anything
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doesn't get a half is still have this is
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your side of the day this is my side
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yeah but everybody seems to feel like
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that they need to be over on my side
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like no no no nearside it on your side
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that's why it's called your side
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that's right exactly it's right in the
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middle name the my side has my name in
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it that's me I'm is me I I me and in the
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middle of you what's called your side we
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were side explains everything in this
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one very simple phrase it's your insides
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the side of the bed that is for you're
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in the middle of the night don't get
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your feet on my side even 10 can see
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that still that's yours that's John side
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of the bed the feet go on your side
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because let's feed those are your feet
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feet i'm gonna start saying move over
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over over over over and let Jimmy take
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over where slide Clyde I let me ask you
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yes did you do you remember learning the
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word nautical
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nautical I'm gonna do I don't remember
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specifically learning it i remember its
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seeming old-timey and kind of Jules
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Verne when I first heard it right but
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not a goal to me nautical is not I don't
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think of like a destroyer I think about
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a ship it's got a sextant you get one of
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those big companies whatever those are
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yeah I could be a steam ship but it's
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but it's still not gonna take captain's
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wheel you got you get rigging that gets
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climbed you might have a brig but
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nautical also is a use a science science
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scientific room with you go and we have
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charts and things and that's those are
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all nautical things right but I think
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you probably heard and understood the
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word nautical before even making those
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associations probably as just something
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that had to do with the sea like that
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the nautical themed bar and some nights
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not right serve water uh when did you
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and I think i'm not i'm not even going
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to have to phrase this in terms of a
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quiz because I've already have the
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answer for you yes but i think the word
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bovine is simple right you don't
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remember learning the word bovine no I
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remember seeing funny from the beginning
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it's pretty funny but like bovine also
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is the thing that that it's not there's
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not a reason to use it
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no one ever says bovina that's one of
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the special words you just used to be
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cute or funny or smart
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yeah but it's a thing that you know
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because you've read some do you read
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some article or some description or
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someone has their it has come up even
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though bovine has no there's nothing in
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the word to see its distinction that
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most people in cities today don't need
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to make do with the regular version or
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uh there's a certain vocabulary that
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those vocabulary calendars where every
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new word yeah and you rip off the top of
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who threw from your parents or something
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your bovine is not a word that you're
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going to learn from a free minute of
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vocabulary desk calendar and if they
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talk about it in school they're like
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today's word is bond Viner like here are
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some years ten words you need to
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memorize for the vocabulary test don't
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really like a GRE word no no it's not
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going to stick right like I think about
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like words that I remember learning for
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the GRE like lachrymose lachrymose right
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there's all these words you just learn
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for the GRE or words that you have read
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or heard in your own kind of family or
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your own early education right lacrimosa
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is a word that by the time you've read
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it 15 times you're like alright what the
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fuck does that mean you go look it up in
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the dictionary
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yeah but you don't it's not a word
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that's going to stick if it's educated
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on to you
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uh-huh and this is the this is one of
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the problems I think of one of a one of
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the problems with a theory of education
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that like where there are there are
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there imbalances in schools that we need
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to redress and we need to do that
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through vocabulary tests and so forth
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where there's just this weird there's
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this vocabulary in within the language
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with these words nautical bovine and I
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wouldn't put lacrimosa in there but like
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just words that you just know what you
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just know what they mean where there's
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no it's not like aeronautical that you
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can that you can say like oh it has the
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word air in it aeronautical is a good
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yeah it might be but you know it's not a
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cold plus air its aeronautical even
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though air is felt differently right but
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it's not a thing you could triangulate
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to but you just know and then that
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that's that's the that kind of that
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substrata of knowledge is a thing I
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don't know how you would educate into
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someone it's like a it's like an
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advantage that certain kids have going
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into school who that they're just bathed
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already a language that's inaccessible
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and it's not one that's it's not one
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that's maybe meant to communicate class
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it's just a it's just that it's so it's
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a vocabulary of people that that use
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words and no word i'm not sure if I'm
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getting your exact point but i think i
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feel i think that i think i feel a thing
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that I think is related and which is
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so you've got things like vocabulary
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look for example if you're learning
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spanish you have your local area where
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you've got right some spanish words
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that's you know you want to learn what a
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senhora and biblioteca all the things in
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autocross yeah and my all-time favorite
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a mana kiya monkey i love to see a
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monkey but anyway that makes sense
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because you have a you have a marker
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here is what I'm gonna start saying when
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somebody gets their feet on my side of
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the monarchy gii your butter and so
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here's the thing though so that makes
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sense if you have a primary language
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Anarchy's Muslims English then you're
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gonna say okay and undergo would learn
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all of these not cognates but need to
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learn the words for things that can
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mentally say when I want to say library
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i know i have to say bibliothèque and I
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learned all those words as I'm kind of
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working my way through the difficult
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process of like you know a spoonful at a
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time trying to learn this language
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you're not standing on the street in in
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Mexico City going libreria daughter a
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library Oh librarian but here's the
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thing and this is not very smart but
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it's just the thing you know the way my
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kids learning math is very different
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from the way that I learned math or also
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arithmetic and we can all time to go too
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deeply into it but it's it's a very
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different way I grew up likely doing
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math the hard way for no good reason and
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like just memorizing lots of stuff and
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there's the way that she's learning that
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is a lot is a lot smarter and a lot more
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integrated with how life works and she's
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learning things in a way that will make
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things like algebra much less weird to
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learn her new math is treason our new
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math is trees and nice hey goodbye love
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that bag okay i think i'm not done his
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thing about vocabulary here's the
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problem you go out and buy yourself a
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word-a-day calendar and like you can
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make yourself sound a little bit fancy
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because you could say things like that
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really made me lachrymose and like but
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the thing is that strap on education is
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the process and here's the thing i'm not
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on sounds really condescending I don't
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mean it to be it's just that you learn
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enough about how to suss out word what
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word is or where to look it up and went
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to deploy it correctly you will learn
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things like in the case of people like
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me who are annoying but there's a
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difference between costly and expensive
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they mean different things saying the
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one you mean
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hello if you read enough stuff you can
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learn the words mean things and
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different words mean different things
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and when you read and read and read and
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read and you think they can talk and
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read and read and read a little talk a
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you're gonna get good at that the
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problem is strapped on education is this
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way of saying like gap but if you
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haven't had all with that their lives
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the privilege to benefit of that you can
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kind of snuck a fake you can simulate
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see again words you can simulate that
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emulates duel with me la calendar
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simulating simulacrum my own milady the
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ground the titles of books you almost
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finished my lady friend went to law
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school and learn learned school she was
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very successful in school and she
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learned how to be in school i'm saying i
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learned it so you can be teaches you
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yeah like and the thing is about blurts
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is learning how to go to school learning
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how to speak in school and go to school
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and I learned how to be in school on my
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own right where I was like I need to
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learn how to be in school here's what I
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think being in school is and everybody
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was like nope nope that's not what being
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in school is and I said too late i
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learned how to be in school already buy
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my own device
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yep but she learned how to be in school
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correctly and part of being in school
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for her meant to read a certain way and
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that reading was to read to to see you
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know to skim the education out of the
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book and it seems you once you know it
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seems like cheating
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well yeah because here's what you did
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you look at the book you read the back
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of the book you read the flap of the
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book you read the table of contents you
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go through the index you see how
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detailed is the index order the parts
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that are in bold and you find the parts
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in the book that you definitely know in
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the parts you don't know and you get a
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shape of the education
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for you read a fucking word right and
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then you go through and you're like
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chapter headings you skim through you
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find halfway through the paragraph that
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basically that the whole chapter hinges
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upon it's the it's the fulcrum of the
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chapter you can give it a Terry Gross
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where you read you read the first two
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chapters and then read the beginning and
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end of every other chapter and if you
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need to go back and read the whole thing
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but spoiler alert i mean that's the way
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to get through a lot of material that it
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doesn't have to be the favorite book
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you've ever read a lawyer thinks well
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interesting things as we try and find a
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common language which is that I said
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well here a couple of novels that meant
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something to me and shredded she
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recommended day how did you or did you
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do a Merlin she was the first 20 seconds
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whoa there's no way you read the heart
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is a lonely hunter in a day and you
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is a lonely hunter in a day and you
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like totally and I realized like oh
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there was a whole different relationship
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to reading happening here that was and
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where you know where you expect to go to
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a good college and you end up in a world
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of a of whatever thinking people but the
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relationship and I have spent many many
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many hours reading a reading like
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literary theory books as though they
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were novels where I'm like reading every
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word and and try trying to find a
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fucking plot in that whole discipline
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her and just like I'm you know I'm in
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this stew of words
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eighty-five percent of them are made up
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for in that context completely made up
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like that's not a word that you can use
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that way but okay I'm with you I'm with
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you or I think i'm with you and so so
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much of the books so many of the books
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that I was exposed to i read incorrectly
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I should've just been reading the table
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of contents and scattering the first two
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chapters and and throw the book in a
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pyre but like like even trying to find a
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philosophy of reading that's that is
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common even with people that share your
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sort of social and class strata it's
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very interesting to find these other
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styles and just to say like oh shit in
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it in reading this not in me trying to
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expose you to this novel and and get you
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to treasure it
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we have to go back a little bit and
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start with a whole new you know like
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learn to read a different way and that's
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a that's a thing that that when you're
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talking about a theory of Education
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you're talking about like we need to
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reform the school's how what in what
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like what are you T how are you teaching
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them to read and I don't mean like a
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like stringing the words together but
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like what is their style of reading
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uh-huh and like him it's caused me to
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reflect on my own style of reading and
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it's why i can't subscribe to The New
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York Times right it takes me it takes me
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six hours to read the New York Times and
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it doesn't take everyone else six hours
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so i guess like the mail that's my wife
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Madeline my wife she she reads so fast
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and and i've tested her
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the thing is what you got to read this
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cap that's 33 pages of screencap from
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facebook comments like it's pretty good
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this kind of fucking thought-provoking
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thing about article 25 you should look
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at this and it was like it was like this
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one two three
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yeah it was interesting all right I get
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the idea let's let's let's put a little
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funny game called us placate merlino
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that you actually read that she's like
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AI was really good and she doesn't
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belong that she was being glib but she
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actually can read that fast and
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comprehend it
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yeah my reading is more like this bump
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bone bone bone but i consider myself a
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not stupid person but my reading is
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ridiculously so so in terms of your I
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much of this has to do with our fits and
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that's don't talk about morris dancing
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how how how does this relate to your
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theory of education and education
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well you know I had that the for a long
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time right we've been trying to get to
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get a similar Education a fair and
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comparable education to the widest
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number of students possible you don't
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want to have a situation where there's
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inequitable access to to education so
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that the kids in the rich schools get a
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great education and the kids in the poor
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schools get shitty education sure and
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within that theory of Education there's
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a lot of understanding that by the time
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a kid gets to school they're already on
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a path and in some cases are are like
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operatory able to digest are able to
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that they already have a better
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education just coming from home so with
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a theory of education then extends to a
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social theory of how do we get how do we
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get that education in that preparation
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for education who in kids before they
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ever darken the doors and not to go to
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the obvious bit but also in the face of
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needing to teach the test which I love
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so much thing now and that's a new thing
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right that since the
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Bush administration like it's not
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there's not there's not a whole lot of
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extra time at the end of the day to go
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back and learn anything because yeah
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there's there's a lot of a lot of tests
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up that becomes very important how that
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school gets money and stuff like that
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yeah and the tests are all that there's
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a lot of prejudice within the test of
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just like and and and the idea of that I
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that's a fairly new idea where
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african-american students don't ask
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rhetorical questions because rhetorical
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questions are not part of the language
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of the african-american community
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well yeah so they come in two different
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yeah we come into schools and their
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white teacher will say so uh what is
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what is another orange what is an orange
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and the black kids will be like one
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that's a fucking orange and the white
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kids are like is it a fruit and the
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teacher go exactly it's a fruit so we
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know that and oranges of fruit right and
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they that there's this sort of pedantry
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that that is where they where the the
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rhetorical question is a way of setting
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up a kind of like here's the metaphor
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we're going to use on oranges and fruit
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right so therefore all fruit are black
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or you know what I mean like there's a
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kind of there's a language of rhetoric
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scizzum in the White style of Education
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and black students go
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this is a this is a stupid question huh
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and so right away there's a language
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Gulf that has nothing to do with the you
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know obviously everybody understands
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what an orange is it is that had this is
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a problem related to how we teach or how
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kids learn
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yeah right well it so it like that he
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said it said that's camera typically
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exactly what it is is that there are all
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these prejudices the way upstream in
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terms of the way teachers just talk
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right the way they even approach
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subjects
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huh that puts certain students at a
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disadvantage before you know and and
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makes them to the teacher seem dumb or
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disengaged they get out they get a dark
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mark from previous because they're like
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that is stupid question and the teachers
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like no no you're not getting it
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they're like no I get it you're asking
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stupid obvious questions about my spot
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where you know like where's my point of
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engagement yeah sure
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so so all of that you know as we as we
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realize that stuff and understand that
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we're trying to modify how we do but it
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has it happens so far back that there's
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no way other you know other than having
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the schools and and you know having
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schools be this this overarching agency
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that's actually in people's homes you
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know that you can't it's hard to Taylor
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and I a system of education that serves
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everybody and how do you that an edit
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that the testing thing notwithstanding
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like I feel like I feel like good
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judging a school system on how well
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students do on tests is just endtime
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shit and it's the opposite of Education
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and drives me bananas
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maybe I agree it's teaching maybe it is
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teaching kids to be good at law school
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but I feel like we don't need that many
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lawyers we need fewer lawyers and more
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book readers we have plenty of lawyers
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in other words but i love i love lawyers
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don't get me wrong yeah but i mean i
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would say more like maybe monitors maybe
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more like doctors maybe that's what
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we're trying to make with all this
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testing but now with a lawyer like part
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of being it seems to me that part of
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being a lawyer and there's a reason I
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suppose that so many of my friends from
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fancy liberal arts school became
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attorneys and it wasn't just because of
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their love of the law or the desire to
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be a judge or you know if the full of
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the time for most people giving up and
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becoming a teacher of law but that
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happened really quickly in some cases
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but no it's because there was something
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very attractive about law school to
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people who would read a lot and fought a
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lot and work independently and had to
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figure out relatively impossible amount
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of work
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alright period of time so if it was like
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tingling like me with systemic
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I've sixteen hundred pages of reading
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this week I better get started and make
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coffee doesn't hurt but there's another
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way of saying like how do we feel like
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hack on this to figure out okay what is
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the one and i'm not even any good at
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this I'm not a lawyer but like there's a
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certain kind of thinking you have to do
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to go like how do i find the like twenty
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percent of this that is going to be
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hugely important to getting the most
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important part of this done right so as
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a lawyer you might go into a case it
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seems to me and say like like if I treat
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every datum in this news many many
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positive banker boxes factory all of
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these data as equally important time I'm
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gonna be screwed
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I'm gonna have to find some way to
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quickly almost like a like a sorting
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algorithm i'm going to find some way to
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to get the gist of a bunch of this
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fairly quickly write like well I think
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about my daughter you know the trick
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about the estimating where you take a
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big pile of stuff you break it into n
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divisions of Latino that look equivalent
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you know this old trick right you can
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take all of your change for example
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their websites that can help you do this
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but we could weigh your change basically
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find out how much it's worth
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but if you take a giant amount of your
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change breaking into your hand range its
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to it works astonishingly well that's
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one of my favorite bad company songs you
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know about this you go and you take a
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bunch of your change and you grab a
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certain amount of it and you come up but
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no however much arbitrarily you say like
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okay in this two fists worth there are
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as many quarters this many times this
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mean because this many pennies and then
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you weigh how much is in the jar and
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it's astonishingly close
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really yeah because you're taking this
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random sampling of your of your own it's
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not perfect but like even if you're
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getting like one percent of the change
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that's in there if it's a difference
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affair sampling you're not just
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cherry-picking quarters
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yeah it is astonishingly good so what
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she's learned that trick so that's okay
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here's the thing and you sleep anymore
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penny ha'penny I think you know anybody
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that says penny I don't know i'll find
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out but that elements are going with
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this article that this is an amazingly
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useful skill like that i don't remember
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learning things like this of like you
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know what if you want to figure out how
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many are in this set you know anybody
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can figure out half of something
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visually like half roughly half now half
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of that have that have etc center count
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how many are in that amount and then x
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how many
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miles there are and it's gonna be close
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enough most of the time that perfect no
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because this morally general way that
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we're taught to do is you count every
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fucking one because an American School
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we're gonna get this right memorize
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memorize memorize instead of going like
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here's an estimation that's going to get
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you most of the way there in like a
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twentieth of the time so this is how it
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is how to do and that's what our should
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read a table right when you when you sit
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down and you're trying to read Hagel and
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you're like here I go I'm reading Hagel
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and you're in you're in the you know
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you're in the first two chapters and
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it's one of those like read four
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sentences go back and read the first
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sentence again type of thing
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normal beyond really you should just be
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approaching like like his law school
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students can read sixteen hundred pages
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and four and a half hours and you know
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and i'm still on page 150 going like now
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wait a minute let me go back to the
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dictionary and you can i find myself
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doubting myself it's just even i was
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reading a very accessible very good book
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about language yesterday and even
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because i was with my family the beach i
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would still have to keep going back and
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going like I think I just missed I kept
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feeling like I miss something
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yeah because if you don't read it
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straight through you gotta go back you
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gotta go back right and i and and and
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what that effectively did in certain
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ways was it like my feeling that to read
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a book half acidly left me with a
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dissatisfied feeling that I had not read
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every word in that book and understood
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it and therefore I in some ways had done
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it was worse to have read that book half
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acidly then to not have even read the
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book like I did by reading that book
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poorly i did the book a disservice and
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so to honor the book i will not even
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begin to read it and that was a weird
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friends that have read like volumes and
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volumes and volumes and from where I'm
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coming from they read it half acidly
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they never had that moment where they
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put the book down and went oh god that
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was beautiful writer they like reading
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through a chapter they're just like oh
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ever read their missing that they have
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let me think about it think about the
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way I have a friend is a read scripts at
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Lucasfilm and you know anybody reads
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film's producer you think about that
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scene in the producers you know where
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they're going through all the different
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scripts to find the terrible one but
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like she knows and quarters talk about
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this she like she knows within like 25
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pages pretty much like what this is
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something she needs to keep reading
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because she's got so many scripts treat
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she can't stop and sit and cry about the
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beauty of the plot of every one of them
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she's going to do you think about being
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a book editor in New York City we
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imagine that stacks and stacks and
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stacks it's like you can't be reading
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these books you got to develop some kind
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of a hero sting a set of heuristics for
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figuring out when something is worth
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spending your time on and then quickly
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sussing out how much time before you
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reassess how much time you should spend
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I mean not to bring this back to karl
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I mean how many how many pages of a guy
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recounting basically minute-by-minute
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what his boring childhood was was like
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how many of those how much but you know
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but to put the book down and say I can't
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keep doing this as opposed to just
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accelerating your pace and we like
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uh-huh can get through this category
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this glitter this slip right left right
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right still talking about that time in
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the kitchen where his dad wouldn't look
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flip flip flip right depends on what
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you're there for I mean that you get the
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same could be said I guess of like any
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warhol movie where you go into it
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knowing that it's going to be many many
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hours long and then seemingly
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deliberately boring and so that you can
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either be there for that experience or
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you can get super frustrated about how
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dumb it is well and like the cremaster
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cycle huh are you if are you watching
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I'm not reading that for plot watching
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that for plot but if you're watching it
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and also looking at your phone and also
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i'm getting with your friend are you
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watching you
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I know I know I go through this with my
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lady friend because when i'm watching
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something really good especially if it's
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got dragons and shit
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I put everything down I put everything
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down and I watching and with it's one of
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those like if it's looking like a
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generosity anything like that where it
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quits an immersive potentially
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disturbing experience you know there's
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going to be little things that are cute
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you have a sport I'm trying to write
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something here which is to say that like
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I think one problem with us as we get
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older as you rely more heavily on
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heuristics shortcuts eventually clichés
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which can of course take you all the way
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down to like stabbing people in
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Sacramento because that's how you roll
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you don't want to get too caught up in
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your guesses your fast guess about what
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something is
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and yet I think there's other kinds of
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heuristics that we don't think about
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actively I know I don't think about
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actively enough and it's something you
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know and how do you judge this you think
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about something like a line like well
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you know I don't have to eat a pound of
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dirt to know I don't want to eat dirt
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like the kind of thing you would say
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about in politics like oh well use right
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this person off like this is kind of the
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characteristics that can be very
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dismissive but like for example like if
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you walk into you walk into a thrift
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Eric I bet you've got an unconscious or
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even conscious set of heuristics very
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common for how much time to spend before
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you realize and recheck how much time to
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spend you would never go i'm gonna look
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at every item in this entire store i
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could put it on I could put in a
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worksheet it could be one page long and
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now there could be a quiz give me a
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couple like it doesn't start outside
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what how how do you at what begins the
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process of going
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yeah warm or cold like this you mean
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this is not me for me you walk in you're
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already moving fast right you don't
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stand in the doorway of a thrift store
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and look around like a dummy your you
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come in your moving fast you know that
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if there if this particular thrift store
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has already cherry-picked what they
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think is the nice stuff which they're
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usually wrong about but if they've
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already cherry-picked to a certain
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extent and put over in their little
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boutique area never thought of that
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before that's so awful but it's true the
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stuff that's been chosen as a high-value
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fashion stuff that people who work
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exactly right this is a person you need
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to know that people in the back of a
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thrift store do not understand what is
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good but sometimes it's like weighing
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your change sometimes they get it just
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right enough that you can't you can't
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blow past that thing and say no things
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you do have to go through it right right
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up but you can go through it pretty
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quickly I was standing in the thrift
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store one time listening to the little
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old ladies in the back
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room who were sorting stuff and one of
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them pulled out a 2 or t-shirt from like
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a late seventies journey to her
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oh my god was it was a baseball shirt
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it was the a fucking baseball shirt I
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just feel for that it was battered you
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know this shirt was was battered but
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still intact and still beautiful i'm
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still looking for a van Halen was it 79
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invasion sharp i'm still looking for one
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of those right so that shirt on Melrose
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is where 250 dollars and in San
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Francisco it's worth a hundred and fifty
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dollars and on ebay it's probably worth
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ninety dollars and this little old lady
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is like well what do you think Marge
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this is that you think that this is
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still wearable and Marge looks and goes
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now it's pretty worn out
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yeah and i watch her toss it into a bin
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which been I'm sure is headed to either
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of fabric recycle become death Mets a
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bath mats or it's gonna go to the
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Ukraine right there's a there's a whole
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there's a whole thing and member Ukraine
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I said the Ukraine I'm sorry it again he
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started writing on out to use this it's
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going to maybe it's and I know that
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whoever is mad at me about saying value
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crane is also going to be mad at the
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suggestion that old t-shirts are being
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delivered so long as you don't get some
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kids gonna be a don't stop believin he's
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gonna be so happy
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that's right but and I think maybe it
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ends up in a in Transylvania let's say
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Transylvania because I've never gotten
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angry from anyone in Transylvania at
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work instinct was going to retire but
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I'm looking at it i'm looking at this
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thing go into this bin and i'm thinking
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i am not someone who's gonna get that
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journey t-shirt and sell it on ebay i'm
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just not and I don't care enough about
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it and vaya con Dios dirty shirt like
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you blew it but I'm also thinking these
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ladies throw Otis so there's a heuristic
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for you is that there is a chance that
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there is some some pros among the
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oysters here
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it happens every day ok but when I walk
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into the store I go through their
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boutique really fast and you know my my
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number-one heuristic is if you don't
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like the fabric of the thing doesn't
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matter if it's oh don't let your time
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if you're walking through the thing and
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you're like does this fit does this fit
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does this fit your that's your
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screwed-up you what you do is you run
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your you kind of walk down the aisle you
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run your fingers along at the size area
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so you say long sleeve shirts in your
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lungs no no no because for those people
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in the back room don't know what sizes
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are either they just don't been
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particularly because a lot of shirts
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that are nice are in european style
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sizes and they're like 46 I guess that
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means it's the same as a 14 maybe they
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put the decimal point the wrong place
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you know stuff is everywhere all the
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time sometimes i go over and look in the
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extra-large women's stuff because they
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look at a blazer that's an unusual color
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and they go
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this must be a girl's blazer and they
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put in extra large womens so so we heard
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it's it's just if you have to imagine it
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just gets the gynecology color crystal
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and the granularity of your lens like
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how you see the world
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yeah so I represent an entirely
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different results a bit of of other
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people's old shit arrives in the back
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room of a thrift store and the people
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who have either anointed themselves or
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been transferred over into the sorter
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gang are just going through there with
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whatever their education is about
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clothes and about stuff and they're like
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this goes here this goes there and
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they're often wrong so you just run your
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fingers over everything until you see
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something that jumps out at us like
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that's nice and then then you you take
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extra time with that you say this is
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gonna fit do I like this do I like the
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style and it's very different if you are
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looking for a black suit to go to a
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funeral because there's a lot of black
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suits and you have to kind of like okay
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I'm just confining myself to it was
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confined myself to these blacks but for
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me I can walk through there really fast
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just like nope nope nope nope nope i
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know that i'm not going to go through
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the every button down shirt in the store
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looking for the one that jumps out at me
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because I can just go i can i can go
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almost at a walking pace with with my
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middle finger just
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raising over everything uh-huh looking
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for the moment that I hit something
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that's like that feels good or that
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fabrics unusual or you know and then
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they're almost just as quickly you can
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pull the thing out
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look at it and say is that gonna fit me
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yea or nay uh-huh
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I then the upu look at you go neigh and
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if you look at the tag only you will be
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wrong about a third of the time because
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the tags going to say medium and then
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you look at the shirt you're like this
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is not a medium clearly it's not a
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medium it's bigger than all of its
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neighbors you know like it's a it is a
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mistake the sizes sizes even on garments
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you pick up brand-new really feel like
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there are two standard deviations
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it's like I got a sweater not longer
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that's a large that after one washing
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feel smaller than a medium uh there's
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not much to really bank on except your
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ability to let go pick it up and try
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yourself
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yeah that's right so I hid all that
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stuff right i barely look at pants
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because really a man needs three pairs
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of pants and I don't need to go through
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a store where some other guys pants but
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I do go through the shoes and again it's
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a thing where the store is full of
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square-toed shoes because square-toed
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shoes are from the nineties or from the
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two thousands or something and you don't
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want to pair square-toed shoes if you
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have a pair of square-toed shoes that
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you bought back then that you're still
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wearing that's great you're still
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wearing the shoes that you bought them
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you're not going to go buy somebody
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else's throwaway square-toed shoes and
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you can walk through the shoe section
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and go nope nope nope nope and then
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every once in awhile it's rare but you
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see a pair of shoes and the shoes that
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you're like these are used shoes already
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a problem problematic notion yeah yeah
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but this shoe the shoes singing to me
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somehow and only then do you see if it
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uh-huh and then I go back to the luggage
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and with the luggage I'm not even
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touching stuff i'm just looking with my
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eyes because what I'm looking for is a
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certain kind of bag
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which is to say old and soft you looking
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for like the the plastic the red plastic
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samsonite I don't want to dance tonight
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I don't want somebody's old trumpet case
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because i have 14 of those alright I
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don't wanna I don't want a hatbox you
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know look for someone's duffle that
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someone's you know old small duffle that
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they used maybe when they shipped out to
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Singapore or maybe they used it as a gym
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bag back in the day when they belonged
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to an Athletic Club like said but I can
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see it with my right and so I'm moving
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through there and then I'm moving
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through the blankets looking for a
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Hudson's Bay blanket or a mohair some
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kind of some kind of wool blanket made
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by an American or Canadian or English
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mill and again those are not fleece
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blankets those are not comforters those
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are not blankets knitted by your
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grandmother there are certain kind of
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thing and you can feel them with your
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finger just run your finger along there
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you're like that blankets too soft too
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soft too soft oh that one feels
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uncomfortable let's look at it and
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because with the with a blanket you want
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something that looks that looks and
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feels uncomfortable because that those
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are the those are the best ones some a
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blanket that might have one point have
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been on a horse
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oh and then if there's plenty a time
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right half the time i'm already out of
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the thrift store by this point but if
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there's plenty of time you look at the
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cufflinks and the wallets and belt
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buckles in this and again this is stuff
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that they don't dawdle in that section
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of various souvenir would items hope
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somehow always have their own Island a
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thrift store i got up i got all of the
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in-and-out boxes i need I've gotta talk
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about that could be also things made a
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bob roughly a roughly making a sculpture
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of something that looks like a person
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out of tiny seashells
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mmm yes all business that was made in
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woodshop class pencil holders strange
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that that area feels the most disturbing
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like if I were gonna try and check out
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the set of a movie to really look like a
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serial killer was there i would get all
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of those items while right like the
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monkey that's made out thats carved out
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of a coconut
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my goodness somebody definitely want to
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use this yeah well or and also the aisle
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where it's just 1500 wall works for
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different electronic devices that don't
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exist anymore you have a cascade of
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these that it sounds like is somewhat
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conscious but you don't have to think
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about it much you know you don't have to
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think about each shirt you run your hand
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along you have a whole cascade of ways
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you blow through one of these places
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yeah but i'm guessing there are also
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things where you can even there's that
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you can get a vibe sometimes about a
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place for you
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mm that's not gonna be good yeah you
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walk in the door and you smell it
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doesn't take long
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oh there's a some photos that Dan has
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been sending the overtime starting in
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march and it is placing ad and gets very
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bewildered he has concerns about things
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that gets really like to send photos of
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things again not always not always clear
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what the not sure what it is or why
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sending it yeah that's the thing that
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nobody starts things to me in marches pc
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is gonna get concerns about things we
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called as concerned on the show today
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I'm concerned about this place across
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the street from his office it's this
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place that has japanese food i want to
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the name of but it says sushi ramen soba
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so they're in what looks like you've
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been someplace where there's not really
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a front
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everything feels like the back no matter
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where you are is not one of those places
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that they say I get it I get it yes it
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was just goes ooh feels like this no
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matter where you goin to San Francisco
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you feel like you're behind wherever
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you're supposed to actually be okay if I
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went to this in a Japanese restaurant
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would there there would be that curtain
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between you in the kitchen but you feel
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like you're on the wrong side of this
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cases are outside there's a tree of
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beautiful tree blocking the entire front
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of this place but it basically looks
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like a combination of across the
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warehouse and one of those like a
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super-solid places it's got an awning
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but it looks very much like the back
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there's lots of like utility boxes they
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had a sign up for the place then they
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added a second sign to the other side of
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the house other side of the building
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then they put Christmas lights around
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the sign out front right to that they
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then alone hello to that they then added
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a costco open closed sign to that they
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then added a lamp in addition to that
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and the thing is but I watching this
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progress now for you know whatever 3-4
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months it's it's so depressing because
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they are doing something they think is
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working
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they think they're helping
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easy heuristic a little bit by putting
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up more signs and more crystal and every
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01:28:47
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like piece of shit look at me think that
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they add to this makes this more place I
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would never in a million years going to
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yeah this is trying to get him saying
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that they're trying to like stimulate in
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their mind they're like why is no one
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coming here we've got all these signs
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and christmas lights why is no one
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coming here for like food that is
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definitely totally fresh if I owned a
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restaurant I've thought about this if I
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owned a restaurant I would have a very
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difficult time not over accessorizing it
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to assess exactly barrel
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well no not quite that by wouldn't like
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there wouldn't be any plows no
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Bennigan's kind of street signs and
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stuff but like I i also i too would
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maybe not know when to stop with open
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signs because you finally own a
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restaurant you got to put all of them up
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I'd find won an auction that was like a
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cool vintage open sign and I'd put it in
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there and then I'd be like wow you know
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what a barber pole like signage
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yeah maybe I should call this place
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barbers who or taking j polls that and
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and you know and pretty soon it would be
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I would be like a mechanic ins and begin
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Akalis where I just had you know my
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waiters all had garters on their sleeve
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uh-huh and and we're on roller skates
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and I'd be like you know you're only
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wearing 15 pieces of flair just here to
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do a bit of a minimum job or you're
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gonna go the whole distance like I would
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be I I'm afraid of being in retail or in
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restaurants mostly that would not be
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able to know I wouldn't know when to
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when to quit and every day because you
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go into restaurants sometimes in there
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like beautiful minimalist places
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somebody's really thought about it like
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my lady friend college is to say her
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advice for most women was take out all
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the makeup that you want to use tonight
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and then put away half of it and you
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look really really good
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most people after their own devices will
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do too much of these things and if it's
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like a one-person own place
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there's a place nearby college I'm
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always using this as an example because
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it's so salient to me he's there was
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this guy who had bought you know you get
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a good place to call your dentist
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offices to pizza hut that kind of thing
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got a place that used to be a chain
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burger place and made it here interested
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well no no this is a guy who made a
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burger place of an old burger place like
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this right now there are a couple
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distinctive things you walk in there and
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first of all the lighting is not that of
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a national chain that he's really really
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not spending a lot on keeping this place
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up to the standard of even mcdonalds
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nothing you notice and you think about
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think about this is like a dream I swear
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to god John imagine walking into a fast
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food place and at the counter there's
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one person working there that person has
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a large console color TV behind the
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counter
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oh and it's little in a reclining chair
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like a lazy boy haha and you walk in
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there now this is all pretty interesting
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but then it gets super interesting
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because every burger every sandwich
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everything that this man-made if you
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just got the standard sandwich standard
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burger he always always always put a
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fried egg on it unless you asked him not
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to and you might seem a little hurt that
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you didn't want to friday he had his own
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fucking restaurant with lazy boy here
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and every sandwich got a fried egg on it
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unless you order otherwise and to me
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that in my head that still always been
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the canonical example of like what can
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go slightly wrong and there's nobody
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else there to tell you how this should
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yeah right he's like look I like a
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friday got everything you know like i
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like because even say you want a fried
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egg on that right like that's my thing
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it's more like no I mean it might as
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well be like he could put like that
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fishing lures or brochures on there it
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is the head is just that's just the
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thing he does well but the you know the
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flip side of that is the people that
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don't know anything
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they're like opening a restaurant i'm
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gonna put a chili burger on the
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restaurant i'm gonna put when somebody
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orders that I'm gonna spread chili on
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the bun like it's a condiment because i
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read about it in restaurant or magazine
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or somebody shows sandwiches as though
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they've never actually eaten a sandwich
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it's the bane of my existence whoo-hoo
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this is the other 1i have a chili burger
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please and then the burger comes and
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it's got lettuce tomato and mayonnaise
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and pickles on it it's like owning like
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company on the side or like children
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like those around chili on the bun till
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the other bun and then all the all this
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other stuff like do they not have chili
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burgers in your town dude named for your
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info my name
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good like it'sit's it's exactly the same
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kind of thing I've this is all part of
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my heuristic now as I can sniff out
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basically I go in there your coffee
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place right
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hmm ok if you're constantly since you
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get real fancy coffee only this Gigi
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breakfast sandwiches you know the
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breakfast sandwich in my neighborhood is
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you know you get your egg and cheese you
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gotta meet and then all of the other
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things that you would put on a lunchtime
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sandwich no lettuce don't know
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so routes when God no-no exactly this is
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like me trying to go out and make
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szechuan where I would have no idea what
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to make because I've eaten it but don't
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have to cook it but like puts that but
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everybody in the neighborhood does it
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you have 10 I don't want tomato on my
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egg sandwich for breakfast sprouts no no
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did you don't make me a ham cheese and
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bologna sandwich with sprouts lettuce
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and mayonnaise like you're making me so
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yeah yeah I night and I feel like I feel
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like there are people that go into being
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in restaurants because it seems like a
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like I'm gonna start a restaurant
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because it's seems like a thing for a
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person to do
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everybody's gotta eat right instead of
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somebody that's like I've always wanted
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to have a restaurant because I have
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because I have a passion and because
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you've liked been through the business
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of it and like that's when you're we're
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talking about like you know the kind of
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restaurant where you going like this is
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nice but they notice things like they
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noticed that they at they don't ask you
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if you want more water they give you
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more water because no one has never
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nobody has ever not wanted water if you
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drank the water in the glass already
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yeah that you know what here's a 10 you
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have demonstrated that your water
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drinker right not thirsty like I drink
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I have drunk would be one more lettuce
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on your except which I here's my idea
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for a restaurant and I feel like I feel
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like I got one for you too my what my
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daughter and I invented once we can't
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let me hear yours
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alright here's my idea it would be like
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the soup guy in the Seinfeld show okay
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except it would have three big like like
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foodservice sized giant cooking pots
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uh-huh right behind a very it's a very
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small restaurant to stop just a railroad
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sighs restaurant three big pots one has
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macaroni and cheese in it one has chili
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in it one has stew in it
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oh my they get they never change
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it's the three pots stew chili mac and
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cheese and you decide you can obviously
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the second thing is you can get a big
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bunch of it to go first thing is how
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many items it's like going to panda
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express how to do one two or three items
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that's right one two or three and that's
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it that's it every day every day it's
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just like if you don't want macaroni and
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cheese toward chili go to a different
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restaurant but if you want any one of
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those things or all three of those
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things here we are and for five bucks
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you get a thing of one of those things
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oh my god I would so I would be there so
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much here like here's here's ours by the
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big this is based on the way that my
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daughter and I increasingly eat pizza
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its new its new restaurant called
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toppers we go in there and we give you
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melted cheese with toppings on it but no
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pizza when you love to be able to go and
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enjoy pizza without me having to eat
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fucking pizza just have the top of its
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just like that place that are I guess
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it's another seinfeld episode about the
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about the muffin top of the muffin tops
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yeah yeah I find other ideas I've had
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other ideas for places that are just
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gravy's it's just gravies and sauces and
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things to put it on
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that's when you and I retire which we
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can of course never afford to do but if
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we do you know what this would be a
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chance for our listeners to support us
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help us start the restaurant chain great
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gravy mix Austin's hauling job and it
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and it'll be we'll have like it will be
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like Bartles and Jaymes
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oh yeah yeah we'll be in the commercial
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but we need a queen a cool name maybe
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cover band got its got to have a name
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that incorporates the sauce idea you
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don't think you just cooperate you cover
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me or just call it fxmike gravy's I like
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JJ as a as like that JJ grey diamond
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Oh JJ McRaven all you like JJ because he
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did that incomprehensible television
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show that no one should ever watch TV
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yeah JJ Abrams Jamie no plot no general
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rooms is the one with this all the
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spaceship you made a Star Wars and then
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you get JJ arms who was the private
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detective that hooks France now Johnny
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arms if JJ arms could come in and be the
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spokesperson for Christmas
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haha determine gravy's changing
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McGrady's its lucky JJ carms I was the
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television show where there was a ghost
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monster and people were in and out of
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least it's called house man it's about
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big house sorority boy it's called it's
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called the ghost house where ghosts
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ghosts and we'll know it was a ghost
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airplane that crashed onto an island
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that was lost or lost how I think about
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was thinking i was a lot of notice my
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thinking about going to joss whedon just
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hold on JJ abrams made alias changing
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abrams made lost and I think JJ abrams
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made my so-called life
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oh i get it that way just said JJ abrams
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made lost what did I say
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ugh just we didn't make that all know
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Joss Whedon didn't make lost
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no I think just being JJ Abrams i think
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let's see here what I see I keep seeing
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joss whedon at like comic-con and
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standing on it will Whedon a will we we
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didn't know will we didn't we started
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