00:00:00 ◼ ► the incomparable number 196 may 2014 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/0">TS</a>]
00:00:16 ◼ ► podcast on your host Jason L&I we often [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/16">TS</a>]
00:00:19 ◼ ► talk about the hugo award sci-fi novel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/19">TS</a>]
00:00:22 ◼ ► nominees every year we will do that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/22">TS</a>]
00:00:25 ◼ ► we just couldn't help ourselves there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/25">TS</a>]
00:00:27 ◼ ► was a largely different group of novels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/27">TS</a>]
00:00:30 ◼ ► that was not only for the nebula awards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/30">TS</a>]
00:00:32 ◼ ► which come from the science-fiction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/32">TS</a>]
00:00:35 ◼ ► America there is an association are they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/35">TS</a>]
00:00:40 ◼ ► anti-americanism America ok well it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/40">TS</a>]
00:00:42 ◼ ► alright we also did establish last year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/42">TS</a>]
00:00:44 ◼ ► that locust or locust notnot first of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/44">TS</a>]
00:00:47 ◼ ► locusts are not locusts they are not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/47">TS</a>]
00:00:51 ◼ ► locusts and they're not from England [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/51">TS</a>]
00:00:53 ◼ ► there from Oakland apparently so I still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/53">TS</a>]
00:00:56 ◼ ► think I still think they're from England [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/56">TS</a>]
00:00:57 ◼ ► I've heard he may be English but they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/57">TS</a>]
00:00:59 ◼ ► live in oakland and they are not locust [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/59">TS</a>]
00:01:02 ◼ ► that's the two anyway I don't even wow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/62">TS</a>]
00:01:05 ◼ ► that is that is a we are off the rails [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/65">TS</a>]
00:01:07 ◼ ► early anyway the point is that we read a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/67">TS</a>]
00:01:10 ◼ ► lot of the nebula nominees are some some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/70">TS</a>]
00:01:12 ◼ ► of us read all of them i believe and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/72">TS</a>]
00:01:15 ◼ ► because there were eight nominees and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/75">TS</a>]
00:01:17 ◼ ► because not all of our regular panelist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/77">TS</a>]
00:01:20 ◼ ► want to read that much because they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/80">TS</a>]
00:01:22 ◼ ► illiterate people largely been more and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/82">TS</a>]
00:01:26 ◼ ► I for I've enlisted some stars from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/86">TS</a>]
00:01:28 ◼ ► other science-fiction related podcast to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/88">TS</a>]
00:01:31 ◼ ► come join us and read some of the nebula [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/91">TS</a>]
00:01:33 ◼ ► nominees with his very exciting this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/93">TS</a>]
00:01:35 ◼ ► like a crossover episode like when when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/95">TS</a>]
00:01:37 ◼ ► like spider-man meets the avengers it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/97">TS</a>]
00:01:39 ◼ ► that kind of thing and and Daredevils in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/99">TS</a>]
00:01:43 ◼ ► there too and Scott your daredevil [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/103">TS</a>]
00:01:44 ◼ ► anyway some ability is here Scott and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/104">TS</a>]
00:01:47 ◼ ► read everything it's got literally read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/107">TS</a>]
00:01:50 ◼ ► every book that's published hi Scott [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/110">TS</a>]
00:01:52 ◼ ► hello to have year good i don't there a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/112">TS</a>]
00:01:55 ◼ ► lot of new people on this podcast are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/115">TS</a>]
00:01:57 ◼ ► you are you feeling comfortable are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/117">TS</a>]
00:02:00 ◼ ► uncomfortable right all right well well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/120">TS</a>]
00:02:05 ◼ ► alright so you're here at your user well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/125">TS</a>]
00:02:08 ◼ ► exactly alright we have three excellent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/128">TS</a>]
00:02:13 ◼ ► mr. sense since like episode eight at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/133">TS</a>]
00:02:15 ◼ ► least Fred cash i am I've mispronounced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/135">TS</a>]
00:02:19 ◼ ► your name in the past but I hope I got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/139">TS</a>]
00:02:20 ◼ ► it right this time you gotta write we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/140">TS</a>]
00:02:22 ◼ ► can hear you on SF signal and the three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/142">TS</a>]
00:02:25 ◼ ► horsemen which is like a spin-off of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/145">TS</a>]
00:02:27 ◼ ► SF signal right that was when a the host [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/147">TS</a>]
00:02:30 ◼ ► of SF signal Patrick Hester was working [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/150">TS</a>]
00:02:33 ◼ ► like 90 hours a week we tried to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/153">TS</a>]
00:02:35 ◼ ► something to fill in and it's become [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/155">TS</a>]
00:02:37 ◼ ► into its own i love spin-off podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/157">TS</a>]
00:02:40 ◼ ► I've got we've got like 10 of them now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/160">TS</a>]
00:02:42 ◼ ► you know it's out of control but yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/162">TS</a>]
00:02:44 ◼ ► it's great podcast can do that they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/164">TS</a>]
00:02:46 ◼ ► spin things are off its good i also pole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/166">TS</a>]
00:02:49 ◼ ► lemurs hear you may know him from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/169">TS</a>]
00:02:51 ◼ ► excellent Hugo nominated skippy and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/171">TS</a>]
00:02:53 ◼ ► fancy podcast and SF signal both hello [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/173">TS</a>]
00:02:55 ◼ ► hello hello my name is fully my also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/175">TS</a>]
00:02:58 ◼ ► been known to pop up on other things I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/178">TS</a>]
00:03:00 ◼ ► been on the three horsemen I been on SF [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/180">TS</a>]
00:03:03 ◼ ► or do a couple times and I get mention [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/183">TS</a>]
00:03:05 ◼ ► other podcasts you make it around well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/185">TS</a>]
00:03:07 ◼ ► now you can add another one to your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/187">TS</a>]
00:03:09 ◼ ► right to your list like that until i get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/189">TS</a>]
00:03:11 ◼ ► another ticket box the list yeah that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/191">TS</a>]
00:03:13 ◼ ► right your honor lots of podcast you may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/193">TS</a>]
00:03:15 ◼ ► know him from podcasting and Sean Duke [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/195">TS</a>]
00:03:18 ◼ ► who is a one of the prime movers behind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/198">TS</a>]
00:03:22 ◼ ► the skinny and fancy podcast which got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/202">TS</a>]
00:03:24 ◼ ► nominated for Hugo and are you going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/204">TS</a>]
00:03:26 ◼ ► London for worldcon that have you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/206">TS</a>]
00:03:28 ◼ ► you made it across the finish line with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/208">TS</a>]
00:03:30 ◼ ► your up with your funding I i well I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/210">TS</a>]
00:03:35 ◼ ► calling food-related fun right uh-huh so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/215">TS</a>]
00:03:38 ◼ ► you'll be there but we don't know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/218">TS</a>]
00:03:39 ◼ ► you're gonna eat ya what i eat really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/219">TS</a>]
00:03:42 ◼ ► depends on on how many donations i get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/222">TS</a>]
00:03:44 ◼ ► before the end of the month so it could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/224">TS</a>]
00:03:47 ◼ ► be that I get to eat food that will not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/227">TS</a>]
00:03:49 ◼ ► kill me or it could be that i'm eating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/229">TS</a>]
00:03:52 ◼ ► whatever I find burger king when the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/232">TS</a>]
00:03:53 ◼ ► burger king in England is higher quality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/233">TS</a>]
00:03:58 ◼ ► yeah yeah they're made out of like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/238">TS</a>]
00:04:01 ◼ ► don't know it's weird well it's because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/241">TS</a>]
00:04:02 ◼ ► the royalty the King you know they they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/242">TS</a>]
00:04:04 ◼ ► respect the king and in England burger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/244">TS</a>]
00:04:07 ◼ ► king here we would have to be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/247">TS</a>]
00:04:09 ◼ ► I don't know what burger President had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/249">TS</a>]
00:04:12 ◼ ► no they don't have any of the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/252">TS</a>]
00:04:14 ◼ ► royal they will they have you know maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/254">TS</a>]
00:04:18 ◼ ► anyway the topic is hamburgers way to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/258">TS</a>]
00:04:21 ◼ ► Central Jersey ahead of royal picture so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/261">TS</a>]
00:04:23 ◼ ► we should talk so there were there were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/263">TS</a>]
00:04:25 ◼ ► eight novels nominated for the nebula [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/265">TS</a>]
00:04:32 ◼ ► knowledge you and ancillary justice by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/272">TS</a>]
00:04:34 ◼ ► and lucky was the winner i should also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/274">TS</a>]
00:04:37 ◼ ► point out that we've talked about two of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/277">TS</a>]
00:04:40 ◼ ► these novels on previous episodes of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/280">TS</a>]
00:04:43 ◼ ► incomparable we talk about ancillary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/283">TS</a>]
00:04:45 ◼ ► justice and we talked about the ocean at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/285">TS</a>]
00:04:47 ◼ ► the end of the lane by Neil Gaiman we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/287">TS</a>]
00:04:49 ◼ ► did an episode about that the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/289">TS</a>]
00:04:52 ◼ ► nominees are well we'll just we'll take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/292">TS</a>]
00:04:55 ◼ ► them i think we'll take them in turn and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/295">TS</a>]
00:04:56 ◼ ► talk about what everybody thought of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/296">TS</a>]
00:04:58 ◼ ► them i think that might be the way and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/298">TS</a>]
00:04:59 ◼ ► we'll try to keep the spoilers light so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/299">TS</a>]
00:05:02 ◼ ► that you can listen if you're curious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/302">TS</a>]
00:05:03 ◼ ► and haven't read these novels because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/303">TS</a>]
00:05:05 ◼ ► chances are you probably haven't read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/305">TS</a>]
00:05:06 ◼ ► all eight unless you're a crazy person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/306">TS</a>]
00:05:08 ◼ ► like Scott let's start by ancillary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/308">TS</a>]
00:05:13 ◼ ► ancillary has one African justice is one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/313">TS</a>]
00:05:17 ◼ ► it is been up for I think it's one more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/317">TS</a>]
00:05:19 ◼ ► or less and it's the and Lucky's first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/319">TS</a>]
00:05:22 ◼ ► novel and it's rather remarkable first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/322">TS</a>]
00:05:24 ◼ ► novel we loved it when we when we talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/324">TS</a>]
00:05:25 ◼ ► about in the previous episode Scott said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/325">TS</a>]
00:05:27 ◼ ► last year he said it was the best book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/327">TS</a>]
00:05:31 ◼ ► it is true and this is gonna be great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/331">TS</a>]
00:05:34 ◼ ► because there's a book that you said was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/334">TS</a>]
00:05:35 ◼ ► the best book you've read so far this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/335">TS</a>]
00:05:37 ◼ ► year and a few episodes ago and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/337">TS</a>]
00:05:38 ◼ ► also nominated for the nebulous it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/338">TS</a>]
00:05:40 ◼ ► very exciting so I'm wondering for Fred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/340">TS</a>]
00:05:43 ◼ ► Paul and Sean have you guys already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/343">TS</a>]
00:05:45 ◼ ► ancillary justice and what did you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/345">TS</a>]
00:05:48 ◼ ► I'll go freshen up yeah sure and I did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/348">TS</a>]
00:05:53 ◼ ► read it in in preparation for our own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/353">TS</a>]
00:05:55 ◼ ► mob interview with and lucky I chart and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/355">TS</a>]
00:05:58 ◼ ► I I think I can speak for trying like we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/358">TS</a>]
00:06:01 ◼ ► were blown away by it we got to read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/361">TS</a>]
00:06:02 ◼ ► relatively early and its cycle and get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/362">TS</a>]
00:06:05 ◼ ► to be part of building its momentum [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/365">TS</a>]
00:06:10 ◼ ► acquisition of every award is being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/370">TS</a>]
00:06:12 ◼ ► nominated for I i really liked i really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/372">TS</a>]
00:06:16 ◼ ► like the writing i really like the idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/376">TS</a>]
00:06:17 ◼ ► she threw out I I was not thrown off by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/377">TS</a>]
00:06:20 ◼ ► it and this is but for podcast have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/380">TS</a>]
00:06:23 ◼ ► talked about it that this happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/383">TS</a>]
00:06:25 ◼ ► counting the three horsemen so yeah i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/385">TS</a>]
00:06:27 ◼ ► a big fan of a like he's worked here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/387">TS</a>]
00:06:30 ◼ ► what do you think's wrong yeah I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/390">TS</a>]
00:06:32 ◼ ► agree it's currently the the novel that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/392">TS</a>]
00:06:36 ◼ ► is very likely to get my vote for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/396">TS</a>]
00:06:39 ◼ ► up for that award I and I when we read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/399">TS</a>]
00:06:42 ◼ ► it and we talked to and like you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/402">TS</a>]
00:06:44 ◼ ► added i mean it it was one of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/404">TS</a>]
00:06:45 ◼ ► books where we got a slew of novels that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/405">TS</a>]
00:06:48 ◼ ► are very nostalgia oriented and we got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/408">TS</a>]
00:06:50 ◼ ► this one that was not and it was just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/410">TS</a>]
00:06:54 ◼ ► different things with for example I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/414">TS</a>]
00:06:56 ◼ ► the very first chapter I'm not spoiling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/416">TS</a>]
00:06:57 ◼ ► anything it's completely disrupts our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/417">TS</a>]
00:06:59 ◼ ► conceptions of gender right and pronouns [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/419">TS</a>]
00:07:02 ◼ ► and i love that I love that moment where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/422">TS</a>]
00:07:04 ◼ ► I'm like what is going on and then once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/424">TS</a>]
00:07:07 ◼ ► oh that's really clever it's really a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/427">TS</a>]
00:07:09 ◼ ► useful way and i love the world-building [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/429">TS</a>]
00:07:10 ◼ ► it also does a colonialism which is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/430">TS</a>]
00:07:16 ◼ ► latched onto that like a leech it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/436">TS</a>]
00:07:18 ◼ ► so yeah I mean overall i think it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/438">TS</a>]
00:07:20 ◼ ► a really solid novel it's not a perfect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/440">TS</a>]
00:07:21 ◼ ► double but it's also a first novel and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/441">TS</a>]
00:07:23 ◼ ► it's this good for first novel is really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/443">TS</a>]
00:07:27 ◼ ► yeah that's the thing is the first novel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/447">TS</a>]
00:07:28 ◼ ► i read it and i just thought how can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/448">TS</a>]
00:07:30 ◼ ► this be i mean I imagine she's written a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/450">TS</a>]
00:07:31 ◼ ► lot of things that she you know she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/451">TS</a>]
00:07:34 ◼ ► never got published never thought were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/454">TS</a>]
00:07:36 ◼ ► good enough by but I mean good god it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/456">TS</a>]
00:07:39 ◼ ► so accomplished for first novel amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/459">TS</a>]
00:07:42 ◼ ► yeah Fred what do you think I enjoyed it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/462">TS</a>]
00:07:46 ◼ ► as well and I experience to both as an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/466">TS</a>]
00:07:49 ◼ ► e-book and an audiobook and one thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/469">TS</a>]
00:07:51 ◼ ► that I pointed out earlier another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/471">TS</a>]
00:07:54 ◼ ► podcast that ball was on with that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/474">TS</a>]
00:07:57 ◼ ► experience of listening to it gave me a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/477">TS</a>]
00:08:00 ◼ ► different perspective of the characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/480">TS</a>]
00:08:01 ◼ ► than the experience of reading it so for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/481">TS</a>]
00:08:05 ◼ ► anybody who is a member of the audible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/485">TS</a>]
00:08:08 ◼ ► order another service i would recommend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/488">TS</a>]
00:08:10 ◼ ► giving it a listen because the narrator [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/490">TS</a>]
00:08:12 ◼ ► is quite good and it was an interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/492">TS</a>]
00:08:14 ◼ ► different experience one of the things i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/494">TS</a>]
00:08:17 ◼ ► we i am going to do my footnote now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/497">TS</a>]
00:08:19 ◼ ► episode 179 of the uncomfortable we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/499">TS</a>]
00:08:22 ◼ ► talked about it along with the lies of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/502">TS</a>]
00:08:27 ◼ ► ah the the it is space opera it is it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/507">TS</a>]
00:08:33 ◼ ► got a lot of big ideas it's got some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/513">TS</a>]
00:08:35 ◼ ► very interesting things about about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/515">TS</a>]
00:08:37 ◼ ► colonialism I like how there's this kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/517">TS</a>]
00:08:40 ◼ ► of question when when you're given [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/520">TS</a>]
00:08:42 ◼ ► Layton Layton the book this decision [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/522">TS</a>]
00:08:43 ◼ ► between sort of a choice between two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/523">TS</a>]
00:08:45 ◼ ► sides in this is Keller Empire it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/525">TS</a>]
00:08:50 ◼ ► a good guys and the bad guys it's sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/530">TS</a>]
00:08:52 ◼ ► you know one set of guys and another set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/532">TS</a>]
00:08:56 ◼ ► of really no bad guys but the other guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/536">TS</a>]
00:08:58 ◼ ► are particularly good the gender issues [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/538">TS</a>]
00:09:01 ◼ ► are off also very interesting as as as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/541">TS</a>]
00:09:03 ◼ ► we mentioned earlier and that i will say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/543">TS</a>]
00:09:06 ◼ ► it reminded me and I don't know why I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/546">TS</a>]
00:09:08 ◼ ► keep saying this but it reminded me sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/548">TS</a>]
00:09:10 ◼ ► of the feeling I got when I read the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/550">TS</a>]
00:09:12 ◼ ► left hand of darkness by ursula leguin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/552">TS</a>]
00:09:14 ◼ ► it was it was new it it it like the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/554">TS</a>]
00:09:17 ◼ ► cold planet it starts on reminded me of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/557">TS</a>]
00:09:20 ◼ ► like win and and left hand of darkness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/560">TS</a>]
00:09:22 ◼ ► and the all of the kind of we're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/562">TS</a>]
00:09:25 ◼ ► to question your issues about who these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/565">TS</a>]
00:09:27 ◼ ► people are and about gender & about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/567">TS</a>]
00:09:28 ◼ ► their and and about identity and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/568">TS</a>]
00:09:31 ◼ ► brought that back it was that it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/571">TS</a>]
00:09:33 ◼ ► that was the book that it reminded me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/573">TS</a>]
00:09:34 ◼ ► the most of the three or thurs i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/574">TS</a>]
00:09:36 ◼ ► most reminded of what were look when but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/576">TS</a>]
00:09:39 ◼ ► also john varley especially these things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/579">TS</a>]
00:09:41 ◼ ► like the old fiocchi hotline which you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/581">TS</a>]
00:09:43 ◼ ► wrote in the late seventies uh-huh and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/583">TS</a>]
00:09:47 ◼ ► then in banks any number of the culture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/587">TS</a>]
00:09:51 ◼ ► oh yeah yeah very much very much like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/591">TS</a>]
00:09:54 ◼ ► yep you like any of those authors i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/594">TS</a>]
00:09:56 ◼ ► would recommend this one highly so i got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/596">TS</a>]
00:09:58 ◼ ► i got to assume that even though and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/598">TS</a>]
00:09:59 ◼ ► like he is a is a first-time novelist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/599">TS</a>]
00:10:01 ◼ ► that you knew I gotta assume she's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/601">TS</a>]
00:10:03 ◼ ► favorite for the hugo at this point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/603">TS</a>]
00:10:05 ◼ ► should night just because she's won [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/605">TS</a>]
00:10:08 ◼ ► presence of the wheel of time on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/608">TS</a>]
00:10:10 ◼ ► hugo ballad looming fit presence will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/610">TS</a>]
00:10:14 ◼ ► the wheel of time knock out the street [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/614">TS</a>]
00:10:18 ◼ ► mm that's a possibility at Endor but not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/618">TS</a>]
00:10:21 ◼ ► putting stuff into the packet8 this I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/621">TS</a>]
00:10:24 ◼ ► don't know what to read for this hugo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/624">TS</a>]
00:10:27 ◼ ► balance focus is going to win this so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/627">TS</a>]
00:10:29 ◼ ► much politics and cross-purposes going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/629">TS</a>]
00:10:33 ◼ ► on by you I don't know what's gonna rise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/633">TS</a>]
00:10:36 ◼ ► anything could happen it would look like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/636">TS</a>]
00:10:38 ◼ ► in a normal if you're looking normal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/638">TS</a>]
00:10:40 ◼ ► momentum it would look like ancillary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/640">TS</a>]
00:10:42 ◼ ► justice we had to be the favorite just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/642">TS</a>]
00:10:43 ◼ ► because it has won all these other major [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/643">TS</a>]
00:10:45 ◼ ► awards but we we who knows i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/645">TS</a>]
00:10:47 ◼ ► answer justice is is the favorite in in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/647">TS</a>]
00:10:50 ◼ ► terms of what is there on the ballot but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/650">TS</a>]
00:10:53 ◼ ► the voting process is going to be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/653">TS</a>]
00:10:55 ◼ ► thing that's going to determine what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/655">TS</a>]
00:10:56 ◼ ► happens because it could be that the as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/656">TS</a>]
00:10:58 ◼ ► fred was pointing out this sad puppy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/658">TS</a>]
00:11:01 ◼ ► ballot could be the thing that like they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/661">TS</a>]
00:11:03 ◼ ► just mobilize really efficiently and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/663">TS</a>]
00:11:05 ◼ ► get enough votes in or it could be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/665">TS</a>]
00:11:08 ◼ ► same thing for wheel of time if the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/668">TS</a>]
00:11:09 ◼ ► people who voted that into be on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/669">TS</a>]
00:11:11 ◼ ► ballot the first place if they get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/671">TS</a>]
00:11:12 ◼ ► enough people to vote for that or it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/672">TS</a>]
00:11:14 ◼ ► could be the orbit thing could knock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/674">TS</a>]
00:11:17 ◼ ► I i suspect answer justice is still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/677">TS</a>]
00:11:19 ◼ ► going to take it and I would be very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/679">TS</a>]
00:11:21 ◼ ► surprised if it didn't because I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/681">TS</a>]
00:11:23 ◼ ► think we love time is gonna eat and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/683">TS</a>]
00:11:25 ◼ ► nobody's gonna read the whole downtown [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/685">TS</a>]
00:11:27 ◼ ► and it's not gonna happen i'm not i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/687">TS</a>]
00:11:29 ◼ ► not gonna make it i'm sorry it's like we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/689">TS</a>]
00:11:32 ◼ ► have the vote and when we have the vote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/692">TS</a>]
00:11:35 ◼ ► yeah somebody up yeah not gonna happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/695">TS</a>]
00:11:40 ◼ ► everybody here for ancillary justice I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/700">TS</a>]
00:11:41 ◼ ► mean it's really good and if you like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/701">TS</a>]
00:11:43 ◼ ► space opera and if you like in banks and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/703">TS</a>]
00:11:44 ◼ ► if you like the left hand of darkness so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/704">TS</a>]
00:11:46 ◼ ► I mean there's so many different things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/706">TS</a>]
00:11:47 ◼ ► like if you like do you like books that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/707">TS</a>]
00:11:52 ◼ ► absolutely alright everybody Scott [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/712">TS</a>]
00:11:55 ◼ ► anything to say you already endorsed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/715">TS</a>]
00:11:56 ◼ ► this like 10 times on this podcast i did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/716">TS</a>]
00:11:59 ◼ ► i said all I need to say about wrestler [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/719">TS</a>]
00:12:03 ◼ ► I let's move on to another nominee we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/723">TS</a>]
00:12:07 ◼ ► are all completely beside ourselves by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/727">TS</a>]
00:12:09 ◼ ► care enjoy fattler this is a book again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/729">TS</a>]
00:12:14 ◼ ► I don't want to spoil too much its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/734">TS</a>]
00:12:15 ◼ ► territory Fowler is a science fiction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/735">TS</a>]
00:12:18 ◼ ► writer i would argue that this is not in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/738">TS</a>]
00:12:22 ◼ ► any way a science-fiction book this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/742">TS</a>]
00:12:26 ◼ ► the book that maybe think let me look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/746">TS</a>]
00:12:28 ◼ ► the rules of the negative two which i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/748">TS</a>]
00:12:32 ◼ ► found out that though the navel is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/752">TS</a>]
00:12:34 ◼ ► awarded to the year's best science [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/754">TS</a>]
00:12:35 ◼ ► fiction or fantasy book they do not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/755">TS</a>]
00:12:37 ◼ ► define what science fiction or fantasy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/757">TS</a>]
00:12:38 ◼ ► is so when up there said their science [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/758">TS</a>]
00:12:42 ◼ ► in it there is science it is a book it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/762">TS</a>]
00:12:47 ◼ ► science so it is science fiction and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/767">TS</a>]
00:12:50 ◼ ► it's uh a woman narrates this story of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/770">TS</a>]
00:12:53 ◼ ► her life and her upbringing and she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/773">TS</a>]
00:12:57 ◼ ► being raised in an environment where her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/777">TS</a>]
00:12:59 ◼ ► upbringing is essentially part of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/779">TS</a>]
00:13:01 ◼ ► scientific experiment and it has an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/781">TS</a>]
00:13:04 ◼ ► impact on her life and her siblings and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/784">TS</a>]
00:13:06 ◼ ► her family and you know I thought this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/786">TS</a>]
00:13:10 ◼ ► was beautiful i loved it i recommended [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/790">TS</a>]
00:13:17 ◼ ► happy and funny and sad again uh but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/797">TS</a>]
00:13:21 ◼ ► it's not but it's not science fiction so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/801">TS</a>]
00:13:23 ◼ ► if i were a nebula voter or fitted made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/803">TS</a>]
00:13:25 ◼ ► for Hugo's i don't think i would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/805">TS</a>]
00:13:27 ◼ ► ranked particularly highly even though I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/807">TS</a>]
00:13:29 ◼ ► I'll i really liked it I liked it it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/809">TS</a>]
00:13:32 ◼ ► one of the it certainly in the top half [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/812">TS</a>]
00:13:35 ◼ ► of the of of my enjoyment of the nebula [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/815">TS</a>]
00:13:38 ◼ ► nominees that i read but I i am kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/818">TS</a>]
00:13:44 ◼ ► although it's a i think a good novel and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/824">TS</a>]
00:13:46 ◼ ► I liked it a lot it's also not science [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/826">TS</a>]
00:13:48 ◼ ► well as it's speculative fiction doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/828">TS</a>]
00:13:51 ◼ ► mean you said that it has scientific [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/831">TS</a>]
00:13:53 ◼ ► elements so now it seems like it could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/833">TS</a>]
00:13:56 ◼ ► be real but it's not right so it's hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/836">TS</a>]
00:13:59 ◼ ► to talk about this book without spoiling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/839">TS</a>]
00:14:01 ◼ ► a central point of it although the cover [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/841">TS</a>]
00:14:04 ◼ ► art sort of spoils that but it does but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/844">TS</a>]
00:14:07 ◼ ► it'sit's yeah so I mean there are there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/847">TS</a>]
00:14:11 ◼ ► experiments in the book and and there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/851">TS</a>]
00:14:13 ◼ ► a question is sort of like these the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/853">TS</a>]
00:14:15 ◼ ► proud the primates are okay I'm gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/855">TS</a>]
00:14:17 ◼ ► fire off a really quiet spoiler or in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/857">TS</a>]
00:14:19 ◼ ► here and then you can come back in like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/859">TS</a>]
00:14:21 ◼ ► two minutes and we'll we'll probably be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/861">TS</a>]
00:14:28 ◼ ► she's raised with a chimpanzee as her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/868">TS</a>]
00:14:31 ◼ ► sister and that has a huge impact on her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/871">TS</a>]
00:14:34 ◼ ► the narrator's life and her brother's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/874">TS</a>]
00:14:36 ◼ ► life and her parents life and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/876">TS</a>]
00:14:40 ◼ ► and so that I think those sorts of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/880">TS</a>]
00:14:42 ◼ ► experiments actually happened so it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/882">TS</a>]
00:14:43 ◼ ► seems fictional but it doesn't seem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/883">TS</a>]
00:14:45 ◼ ► outside the realm of something that just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/885">TS</a>]
00:14:48 ◼ ► actually happened in history so I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/888">TS</a>]
00:14:49 ◼ ► quite sure it's anymore it's much more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/889">TS</a>]
00:14:51 ◼ ► speculative than any other kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/891">TS</a>]
00:14:54 ◼ ► well this could be mean it sounds like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/894">TS</a>]
00:14:57 ◼ ► slightly more conventional book than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/897">TS</a>]
00:15:01 ◼ ► what Roger McBride Allen did once where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/901">TS</a>]
00:15:04 ◼ ► he had Neanderthals but it sounds like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/904">TS</a>]
00:15:07 ◼ ► better version then what a a certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/907">TS</a>]
00:15:09 ◼ ► michael crichton did once with congo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/909">TS</a>]
00:15:14 ◼ ► yeah i was thinking of that fried yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/914">TS</a>]
00:15:15 ◼ ► those are all this book is to compare me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/915">TS</a>]
00:15:19 ◼ ► this book to those books in like trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/919">TS</a>]
00:15:21 ◼ ► to make it science fiction if you read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/921">TS</a>]
00:15:23 ◼ ► the book you you it is not science [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/923">TS</a>]
00:15:26 ◼ ► fiction in any way shape or mean I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/926">TS</a>]
00:15:30 ◼ ► it's a really good book i liked it she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/930">TS</a>]
00:15:32 ◼ ► plays she does a lot of things with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/932">TS</a>]
00:15:33 ◼ ► because the the central character of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/933">TS</a>]
00:15:35 ◼ ► book has this traumatic experience that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/935">TS</a>]
00:15:38 ◼ ► kind of really reverberates across her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/938">TS</a>]
00:15:41 ◼ ► life and she questions her own memories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/941">TS</a>]
00:15:43 ◼ ► and you don't know if you can rely on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/943">TS</a>]
00:15:45 ◼ ► what she's telling you and she has this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/945">TS</a>]
00:15:47 ◼ ► kind of weird relationship with her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/947">TS</a>]
00:15:49 ◼ ► brother and her parents and you know she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/949">TS</a>]
00:15:51 ◼ ► grew up with a chimpanzee and it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/951">TS</a>]
00:15:54 ◼ ► it's a wonderful book but it is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/954">TS</a>]
00:15:56 ◼ ► science fiction and it's not like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/956">TS</a>]
00:16:05 ◼ ► it's like it's like Saul stuff that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/965">TS</a>]
00:16:06 ◼ ► basically has has happened in some form [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/966">TS</a>]
00:16:10 ◼ ► so it's remix and kind of historical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/970">TS</a>]
00:16:11 ◼ ► events I don't know they did it's a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/971">TS</a>]
00:16:13 ◼ ► question what do we do we define science [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/973">TS</a>]
00:16:15 ◼ ► fiction regardless of whether it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/975">TS</a>]
00:16:16 ◼ ► science fiction or not those I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/976">TS</a>]
00:16:19 ◼ ► know which of you guys read it but speak [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/979">TS</a>]
00:16:22 ◼ ► up and what do you think of it as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/982">TS</a>]
00:16:24 ◼ ► novel because I really did enjoy it i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/984">TS</a>]
00:16:25 ◼ ► just i I just didn't it was a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/985">TS</a>]
00:16:27 ◼ ► baffled about while I was on the list [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/987">TS</a>]
00:16:29 ◼ ► i I didn't read it but listening to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/989">TS</a>]
00:16:31 ◼ ► discussion maybe think of your not that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/991">TS</a>]
00:16:35 ◼ ► william gibson books that came later in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/995">TS</a>]
00:16:41 ◼ ► country Padraig action yeah those books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1001">TS</a>]
00:16:44 ◼ ► out which in some cases are are so like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1004">TS</a>]
00:16:48 ◼ ► our present that it's kind of hard to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1008">TS</a>]
00:16:49 ◼ ► disentangle them as speculative so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1009">TS</a>]
00:16:53 ◼ ► indicates that that's all the last thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1013">TS</a>]
00:16:55 ◼ ► I had to say on that because this is one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1015">TS</a>]
00:16:56 ◼ ► of the ones I was not able to get to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1016">TS</a>]
00:16:57 ◼ ► know I think I even the gibson i love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1017">TS</a>]
00:17:00 ◼ ► that I love those though that recent the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1020">TS</a>]
00:17:02 ◼ ► recent trilogy from Gibson but even they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1022">TS</a>]
00:17:05 ◼ ► are getting feel like he's he's pushing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1025">TS</a>]
00:17:07 ◼ ► it it's like like Max Headroom it's 20 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1027">TS</a>]
00:17:10 ◼ ► minutes into the future it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1030">TS</a>]
00:17:11 ◼ ► there's just something in it that is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1031">TS</a>]
00:17:14 ◼ ► it you know that like that like in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1034">TS</a>]
00:17:16 ◼ ► first one there's the the the footage in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1036">TS</a>]
00:17:19 ◼ ► there are people putting together the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1039">TS</a>]
00:17:20 ◼ ► footage in Russia somewhere and all that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1040">TS</a>]
00:17:22 ◼ ► it's it's almost today but it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1042">TS</a>]
00:17:25 ◼ ► quite and this feels completely like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1045">TS</a>]
00:17:28 ◼ ► yeah this all could have happened and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1048">TS</a>]
00:17:30 ◼ ► seems very mainstream novel to me but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1050">TS</a>]
00:17:33 ◼ ► you know many people that were raised by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1053">TS</a>]
00:17:35 ◼ ► chips are not many but I i believe that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1055">TS</a>]
00:17:38 ◼ ► i believe it actually have I I just all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1058">TS</a>]
00:17:40 ◼ ► of our radiolab story where they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1060">TS</a>]
00:17:43 ◼ ► talking about a chimpanzee where they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1063">TS</a>]
00:17:45 ◼ ► tried to race chimpanzee as human and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1065">TS</a>]
00:17:48 ◼ ► that worked for a while and then things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1068">TS</a>]
00:17:51 ◼ ► so in the end when I heard about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1071">TS</a>]
00:17:53 ◼ ► book i read in our service like it feels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1073">TS</a>]
00:17:55 ◼ ► the radiolab story and didn't feel very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1075">TS</a>]
00:17:57 ◼ ► SF well to me and so I didn't go ahead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1077">TS</a>]
00:18:01 ◼ ► and read it because I thought I i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1081">TS</a>]
00:18:03 ◼ ► i know this story's was thinking at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1083">TS</a>]
00:18:08 ◼ ► recommend it to people i think it I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1088">TS</a>]
00:18:09 ◼ ► think it's a very good book but don't go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1089">TS</a>]
00:18:11 ◼ ► in expecting that there's going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1091">TS</a>]
00:18:14 ◼ ► implanted with with primate DNA and is I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1094">TS</a>]
00:18:17 ◼ ► mean none of that is it's just a it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1097">TS</a>]
00:18:20 ◼ ► just like a memoir of somebody who lived [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1100">TS</a>]
00:18:22 ◼ ► through a very strange childhood where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1102">TS</a>]
00:18:28 ◼ ► childhood part of their experiment had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1108">TS</a>]
00:18:30 ◼ ► deep impact on her and the rest of her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1110">TS</a>]
00:18:31 ◼ ► family and as that it's beautifully [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1111">TS</a>]
00:18:34 ◼ ► written it really is you know Scott [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1114">TS</a>]
00:18:36 ◼ ► would you great just really nice book he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1116">TS</a>]
00:18:40 ◼ ► beautifully written so you you took the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1120">TS</a>]
00:18:41 ◼ ► words right out of my mouth I was it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1121">TS</a>]
00:18:44 ◼ ► interested in you know sci-fi/fantasy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1124">TS</a>]
00:18:46 ◼ ► you should probably skip this book but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1126">TS</a>]
00:18:48 ◼ ► it is a great book i enjoyed it very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1128">TS</a>]
00:18:52 ◼ ► yeah I I don't inflict many of the books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1132">TS</a>]
00:18:54 ◼ ► that i read on my wife and this one was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1134">TS</a>]
00:18:56 ◼ ► like you should read this you should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1136">TS</a>]
00:18:57 ◼ ► read this next it's it's that good and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1137">TS</a>]
00:18:59 ◼ ► she did and she liked a lot so and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1139">TS</a>]
00:19:02 ◼ ► that that's yeah okay so we are all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1142">TS</a>]
00:19:05 ◼ ► completely beside ourselves by karen joy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1145">TS</a>]
00:19:06 ◼ ► fowler highly recommended by me and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1146">TS</a>]
00:19:08 ◼ ► Scott not science fiction really but but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1148">TS</a>]
00:19:12 ◼ ► science-fiction writers of america know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1152">TS</a>]
00:19:14 ◼ ► her and they nominated her book because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1154">TS</a>]
00:19:16 ◼ ► it's good and I can't blame them for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1156">TS</a>]
00:19:17 ◼ ► that like it is it's a good book a test [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1157">TS</a>]
00:19:19 ◼ ► sites it and I just have scientist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1159">TS</a>]
00:19:21 ◼ ► fiction I let's move on to the ocean at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1161">TS</a>]
00:19:25 ◼ ► the end of the lane much has been said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1165">TS</a>]
00:19:26 ◼ ► about this we did episode 155 of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1166">TS</a>]
00:19:31 ◼ ► neil gaiman shockingly not nominated for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1171">TS</a>]
00:19:34 ◼ ► the hugo I nominated him but I nothing i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1174">TS</a>]
00:19:38 ◼ ► nominate ever gets nominated so I and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1178">TS</a>]
00:19:41 ◼ ► so you can refer to that episode and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1181">TS</a>]
00:19:44 ◼ ► Scott my are Scott wasn't on that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1184">TS</a>]
00:19:46 ◼ ► episode Scott did you ever read this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1186">TS</a>]
00:19:48 ◼ ► book I when you were doing that episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1188">TS</a>]
00:19:51 ◼ ► I refused to read it but i have in fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1191">TS</a>]
00:19:55 ◼ ► well mostly because I I I refused to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1195">TS</a>]
00:19:59 ◼ ► read it mostly because of under the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1199">TS</a>]
00:20:01 ◼ ► hated things about people who annoy me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1201">TS</a>]
00:20:04 ◼ ► but for the book itself was the life for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1204">TS</a>]
00:20:08 ◼ ► ya I i mean i think it was beautiful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1208">TS</a>]
00:20:16 ◼ ► what do you guys think Fred what do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1216">TS</a>]
00:20:19 ◼ ► I in fact read twice my december january [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1219">TS</a>]
00:20:22 ◼ ► me at if um Stardust was his homage to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1222">TS</a>]
00:20:28 ◼ ► Lord Dunsany I thought this one was more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1228">TS</a>]
00:20:29 ◼ ► like a no Maj to mr james everybody's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1229">TS</a>]
00:20:32 ◼ ► have read him you kind of have a pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1232">TS</a>]
00:20:35 ◼ ► normal background with something not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1235">TS</a>]
00:20:39 ◼ ► quite right going on at the edges and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1239">TS</a>]
00:20:42 ◼ ► the edges get closer and closer towards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1242">TS</a>]
00:20:44 ◼ ► the center we need seems to be pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1244">TS</a>]
00:20:47 ◼ ► autobiographical except when it gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1247">TS</a>]
00:20:49 ◼ ► really strange which is interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1249">TS</a>]
00:20:51 ◼ ► because you know what he worked into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1251">TS</a>]
00:20:53 ◼ ► story short i enjoy enjoy a short book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1253">TS</a>]
00:20:57 ◼ ► rather than a big fat book every now and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1257">TS</a>]
00:21:02 ◼ ► I agree it's gets right to the point and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1262">TS</a>]
00:21:05 ◼ ► scares the heck out of him some points [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1265">TS</a>]
00:21:07 ◼ ► Sean you read this one yeah this is one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1267">TS</a>]
00:21:10 ◼ ► actually finished today while and I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1270">TS</a>]
00:21:12 ◼ ► would agree with Fred one of the very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1272">TS</a>]
00:21:14 ◼ ► first things I noticed about this book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1274">TS</a>]
00:21:15 ◼ ► is I stop them to me and said to myself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1275">TS</a>]
00:21:18 ◼ ► this feels very autobiographical not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1278">TS</a>]
00:21:20 ◼ ► knowing enough about gaming myself to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1280">TS</a>]
00:21:22 ◼ ► actually like say that with any other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1282">TS</a>]
00:21:24 ◼ ► and you know authority but it it seemed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1284">TS</a>]
00:21:27 ◼ ► like it was very much dealing with his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1287">TS</a>]
00:21:28 ◼ ► own childhood and then obviously as it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1288">TS</a>]
00:21:30 ◼ ► goes on it becomes increasingly strange [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1290">TS</a>]
00:21:33 ◼ ► or you know in the sort of game in way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1293">TS</a>]
00:21:35 ◼ ► that things that are kind of dark and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1295">TS</a>]
00:21:38 ◼ ► mysterious and like even even the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1298">TS</a>]
00:21:41 ◼ ► little family that that's at the ocean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1301">TS</a>]
00:21:44 ◼ ► at the end of the line they even though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1304">TS</a>]
00:21:47 ◼ ► they're kind of I guess the good guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1307">TS</a>]
00:21:49 ◼ ► there's always this weird unsettled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1309">TS</a>]
00:21:52 ◼ ► feeling about them throughout the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1312">TS</a>]
00:21:54 ◼ ► thing and then that never really goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1314">TS</a>]
00:21:57 ◼ ► away even in the final chapter I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1317">TS</a>]
00:21:59 ◼ ► that's very much stays there and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1319">TS</a>]
00:22:01 ◼ ► that's something that's very familiar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1321">TS</a>]
00:22:03 ◼ ► for gaming fans and a lot of his work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1323">TS</a>]
00:22:04 ◼ ► even start Stardust has a lot of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1324">TS</a>]
00:22:06 ◼ ► feeling I think throughout much fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1326">TS</a>]
00:22:08 ◼ ► starts happens to be my favorite game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1328">TS</a>]
00:22:10 ◼ ► and novels so but i like this one quite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1330">TS</a>]
00:22:13 ◼ ► I didn't think it was his best book but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1333">TS</a>]
00:22:14 ◼ ► that's because Stardust remains my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1334">TS</a>]
00:22:16 ◼ ► favorite and that's first completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1336">TS</a>]
00:22:18 ◼ ► sentimental silly reasons so yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1338">TS</a>]
00:22:21 ◼ ► really like american gods and i don't i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1341">TS</a>]
00:22:23 ◼ ► don't think i would put this over that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1343">TS</a>]
00:22:24 ◼ ► but I I liked it a lot you're right it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1344">TS</a>]
00:22:26 ◼ ► feels the when you started you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1346">TS</a>]
00:22:28 ◼ ► wondering to yourself if you're reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1348">TS</a>]
00:22:30 ◼ ► of a memoir and you get the feeling that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1350">TS</a>]
00:22:32 ◼ ► he must have poured some of his his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1352">TS</a>]
00:22:34 ◼ ► childhood into this the bit with the car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1354">TS</a>]
00:22:36 ◼ ► actually happened to him and his family [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1356">TS</a>]
00:22:38 ◼ ► really I did I think I didn't pick up on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1358">TS</a>]
00:22:41 ◼ ► that yeah i read this i read this too I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1361">TS</a>]
00:22:44 ◼ ► did it did feel very much like he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1364">TS</a>]
00:22:46 ◼ ► pouring out some of his childhood into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1366">TS</a>]
00:22:49 ◼ ► this novel felt like a a fairytale [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1369">TS</a>]
00:22:55 ◼ ► childhood it it was it feels like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1375">TS</a>]
00:22:57 ◼ ► anti-american god save you mentioned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1377">TS</a>]
00:22:59 ◼ ► about government as far as it's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1379">TS</a>]
00:23:01 ◼ ► spare it's very sure it's very compact I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1381">TS</a>]
00:23:05 ◼ ► i devoutly i devoured this quickly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1385">TS</a>]
00:23:07 ◼ ► during my up during my up plane rides [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1387">TS</a>]
00:23:10 ◼ ► this last just last weekend so it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1390">TS</a>]
00:23:13 ◼ ► it's just flew right by in the middle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1393">TS</a>]
00:23:16 ◼ ► and the next thing i know it's god it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1396">TS</a>]
00:23:18 ◼ ► over like well is it if if III when we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1398">TS</a>]
00:23:23 ◼ ► were doing i need to read it again like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1403">TS</a>]
00:23:25 ◼ ► friended maybe I can soak into it more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1405">TS</a>]
00:23:28 ◼ ► maybe I great almost too fast and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1408">TS</a>]
00:23:30 ◼ ► didn't quite realize just how short and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1410">TS</a>]
00:23:32 ◼ ► compact it really was but it's I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1412">TS</a>]
00:23:36 ◼ ► think he's getting better as a writer I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1416">TS</a>]
00:23:38 ◼ ► i I've heard that's we're still waiting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1418">TS</a>]
00:23:41 ◼ ► for the perfect game and novel I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1421">TS</a>]
00:23:43 ◼ ► think this is it either but i guess we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1423">TS</a>]
00:23:45 ◼ ► guess he keeps circling or triangulating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1425">TS</a>]
00:23:48 ◼ ► looking for his masterwork if American [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1428">TS</a>]
00:23:51 ◼ ► guys is that I don't know what it will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1431">TS</a>]
00:23:54 ◼ ► maybe there's some just a perfect game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1434">TS</a>]
00:23:56 ◼ ► in novel for everybody and he just keeps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1436">TS</a>]
00:24:01 ◼ ► no I suspect that his his greatest work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1441">TS</a>]
00:24:06 ◼ ► regardless of what he had what else he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1446">TS</a>]
00:24:08 ◼ ► doing that seems to be the work that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1448">TS</a>]
00:24:12 ◼ ► although you know he he he seems to not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1452">TS</a>]
00:24:15 ◼ ► be satisfied with writing the same novel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1455">TS</a>]
00:24:18 ◼ ► over and over again because American [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1458">TS</a>]
00:24:23 ◼ ► graveyard book which i also really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1463">TS</a>]
00:24:24 ◼ ► enjoyed it does doesn't it hits a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1464">TS</a>]
00:24:27 ◼ ► different spot and this book feels very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1467">TS</a>]
00:24:29 ◼ ► different to me so even though they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1469">TS</a>]
00:24:30 ◼ ► all kind of game any I do feel like he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1470">TS</a>]
00:24:36 ◼ ► completely back and do another book like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1476">TS</a>]
00:24:38 ◼ ► that one and well you know let's let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1478">TS</a>]
00:24:39 ◼ ► do american gods again I feel like he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1479">TS</a>]
00:24:42 ◼ ► doesn't wanna push himself a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1482">TS</a>]
00:24:44 ◼ ► and maybe that's why you know we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1484">TS</a>]
00:24:47 ◼ ► still wondering what the ultimate neil [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1487">TS</a>]
00:24:51 ◼ ► american gods two electric boogaloo yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1491">TS</a>]
00:24:54 ◼ ► it was like a Nancy boys is sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1494">TS</a>]
00:24:56 ◼ ► american gods to but it's not like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1496">TS</a>]
00:24:58 ◼ ► american gods really at all know very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1498">TS</a>]
00:25:01 ◼ ► very different up I didn't also like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1501">TS</a>]
00:25:04 ◼ ► that this book did some interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1504">TS</a>]
00:25:06 ◼ ► things with its horror elements that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1506">TS</a>]
00:25:08 ◼ ► didn't stick with what could have been a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1508">TS</a>]
00:25:10 ◼ ► simple choice which is the supernatural [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1510">TS</a>]
00:25:12 ◼ ► horror but it actually chose I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1512">TS</a>]
00:25:14 ◼ ► what you'd say like a family holds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1514">TS</a>]
00:25:16 ◼ ► familial Hornets exactly exactly exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1516">TS</a>]
00:25:19 ◼ ► it does that really well I mean there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1519">TS</a>]
00:25:21 ◼ ► and i'm not going to say what the scene [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1521">TS</a>]
00:25:22 ◼ ► is because we all know the scene when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1522">TS</a>]
00:25:24 ◼ ► boy and family and bad things and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1524">TS</a>]
00:25:29 ◼ ► I wish he had dealt more with it later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1529">TS</a>]
00:25:31 ◼ ► on but there's a sort of is explained in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1531">TS</a>]
00:25:33 ◼ ► the final chapter why it's not but that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1533">TS</a>]
00:25:36 ◼ ► moment was like I had to stop for and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1536">TS</a>]
00:25:38 ◼ ► have like a break because I was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1538">TS</a>]
00:25:40 ◼ ► what is going on right now because this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1540">TS</a>]
00:25:42 ◼ ► is insane and it's horrifying that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1542">TS</a>]
00:25:45 ◼ ► even more horrifying than any of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1545">TS</a>]
00:25:46 ◼ ► supernatural creatures i feel is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1546">TS</a>]
00:25:48 ◼ ► moment we talk about when we talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1548">TS</a>]
00:25:51 ◼ ► this being autobiographical I think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1551">TS</a>]
00:25:54 ◼ ► telling in a way that the true horror in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1554">TS</a>]
00:25:56 ◼ ► this story is horror of things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1556">TS</a>]
00:25:58 ◼ ► happen in the family horror that tears [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1558">TS</a>]
00:26:00 ◼ ► the family apart being betrayed or or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1560">TS</a>]
00:26:03 ◼ ► thinking less of members of your family [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1563">TS</a>]
00:26:05 ◼ ► because of things that they did that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1565">TS</a>]
00:26:07 ◼ ► unfortunate and/or terrible fear of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1567">TS</a>]
00:26:10 ◼ ► members of your family i think that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1570">TS</a>]
00:26:12 ◼ ► you know again not knowing neil gaiman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1572">TS</a>]
00:26:14 ◼ ► his life and not trying to psychoanalyze [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1574">TS</a>]
00:26:16 ◼ ► him entirely through this work although [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1576">TS</a>]
00:26:18 ◼ ► it's so tempting it I I feel like that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1578">TS</a>]
00:26:21 ◼ ► really interesting that this comes from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1581">TS</a>]
00:26:23 ◼ ► a personal place this isn't some crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1583">TS</a>]
00:26:25 ◼ ► supernatural world inflicting horror on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1585">TS</a>]
00:26:27 ◼ ► you it's it's terrible things happening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1587">TS</a>]
00:26:30 ◼ ► to two or more caused by members of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1590">TS</a>]
00:26:33 ◼ ► family really hits closer to home I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1593">TS</a>]
00:26:36 ◼ ► think boy yeah you don't even need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1596">TS</a>]
00:26:38 ◼ ► say what seen it is anybody who's read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1598">TS</a>]
00:26:39 ◼ ► that book knows exactly what you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1599">TS</a>]
00:26:42 ◼ ► hey I don't know if anyone has read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1602">TS</a>]
00:26:44 ◼ ► enough game to know whether this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1604">TS</a>]
00:26:47 ◼ ► family-related abuse issues that's i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1607">TS</a>]
00:26:51 ◼ ► using that term like the most Vegas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1611">TS</a>]
00:26:52 ◼ ► sense i don't give anything away because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1612">TS</a>]
00:26:54 ◼ ► i don't recall if he has but i haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1614">TS</a>]
00:26:55 ◼ ► read everything by him i haven't read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1615">TS</a>]
00:26:59 ◼ ► anything by him either i feel like he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1619">TS</a>]
00:27:00 ◼ ► must have touched on these issues I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1620">TS</a>]
00:27:02 ◼ ► there's some stuff in Sandman even the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1622">TS</a>]
00:27:03 ◼ ► stuff of Sandman that I've read that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1623">TS</a>]
00:27:05 ◼ ► feel is sort of like that to a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1625">TS</a>]
00:27:07 ◼ ► bit but this is it just it seems so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1627">TS</a>]
00:27:09 ◼ ► personal and you're set up to feel it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1629">TS</a>]
00:27:11 ◼ ► being personal from those first few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1631">TS</a>]
00:27:13 ◼ ► chapters that seemed autobiographical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1633">TS</a>]
00:27:15 ◼ ► that I'm the whole that's part of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1635">TS</a>]
00:27:17 ◼ ► trick to it is that is that he makes the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1637">TS</a>]
00:27:20 ◼ ► the whole betrayal all the terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1640">TS</a>]
00:27:22 ◼ ► things that happened feel personal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1642">TS</a>]
00:27:26 ◼ ► yeah absolutely i totally agree yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1646">TS</a>]
00:27:29 ◼ ► that more talk about this book the more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1649">TS</a>]
00:27:31 ◼ ► like it and more unsettled i become [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1651">TS</a>]
00:27:34 ◼ ► because I start remembering things at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1654">TS</a>]
00:27:36 ◼ ► it's really it's really unsettling book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1656">TS</a>]
00:27:38 ◼ ► i really recommend that if you've never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1658">TS</a>]
00:27:39 ◼ ► read a game and novel try this one it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1659">TS</a>]
00:27:42 ◼ ► too creepy oh well maybe not if you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1662">TS</a>]
00:27:44 ◼ ► creeped out too easy i think it's odd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1664">TS</a>]
00:27:46 ◼ ► but I think it's gentle in another way I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1666">TS</a>]
00:27:48 ◼ ► mean some horrible things happen and yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1668">TS</a>]
00:27:49 ◼ ► some of it i feel i feel is is kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1669">TS</a>]
00:27:52 ◼ ► gentleman and his game a novel schoo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1672">TS</a>]
00:27:58 ◼ ► yes really awesome cat is like cats [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1678">TS</a>]
00:28:00 ◼ ► they're they're cats get sad sad things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1680">TS</a>]
00:28:03 ◼ ► about cats happy things about cats [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1683">TS</a>]
00:28:05 ◼ ► all good things about cats are being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1685">TS</a>]
00:28:08 ◼ ► nebulous on this nebula podcast yes it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1688">TS</a>]
00:28:11 ◼ ► the nebulous awards that we will win for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1691">TS</a>]
00:28:13 ◼ ► trying to spoil everything that happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1693">TS</a>]
00:28:17 ◼ ► okay so everybody's going to kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1697">TS</a>]
00:28:19 ◼ ► give a pass to the ocean at the end of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1699">TS</a>]
00:28:21 ◼ ► the lane it sounds like yeah even Scott [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1701">TS</a>]
00:28:25 ◼ ► who didn't want to read it I didn't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1705">TS</a>]
00:28:29 ◼ ► to read but i did and it was nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1709">TS</a>]
00:28:30 ◼ ► yeah he's a good writer I mean me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1710">TS</a>]
00:28:32 ◼ ► divorced from his his PR and his wife's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1712">TS</a>]
00:28:35 ◼ ► PR and all of that he's a really good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1715">TS</a>]
00:28:39 ◼ ► writer he really is mr. alright next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1719">TS</a>]
00:28:43 ◼ ► yeah I follow him on twitter and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1723">TS</a>]
00:28:44 ◼ ► one of those things that you shouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1724">TS</a>]
00:28:45 ◼ ► follow writers you really like on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1725">TS</a>]
00:28:47 ◼ ► Twitter or get to know them too well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1727">TS</a>]
00:28:50 ◼ ► discovered that they're horrible people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1730">TS</a>]
00:28:51 ◼ ► but he does seem like an actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1731">TS</a>]
00:28:54 ◼ ► yeah let's move on to fire with fire by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1734">TS</a>]
00:29:00 ◼ ► charles ii Gannon this is a server I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1740">TS</a>]
00:29:07 ◼ ► trying I'm trying to keep the the more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1747">TS</a>]
00:29:08 ◼ ► military-themed stories separate this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1748">TS</a>]
00:29:11 ◼ ► this is an interesting book because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1751">TS</a>]
00:29:13 ◼ ► felt like there was sort of a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1753">TS</a>]
00:29:14 ◼ ► different books in here this is sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1754">TS</a>]
00:29:16 ◼ ► a book that starts out being a there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1756">TS</a>]
00:29:19 ◼ ► like a guy on a it's like there's like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1759">TS</a>]
00:29:22 ◼ ► guy with four oh my god there's so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1762">TS</a>]
00:29:24 ◼ ► in here is like a guy on the moon and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1764">TS</a>]
00:29:27 ◼ ► he's and then he wakes up and he's on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1767">TS</a>]
00:29:29 ◼ ► spaceship and it's like 13 years later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1769">TS</a>]
00:29:33 ◼ ► yeah and it could be like you could say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1773">TS</a>]
00:29:34 ◼ ► this is a spy novel yeah exceptexcept [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1774">TS</a>]
00:29:37 ◼ ► there's a gear shift in the mail right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1777">TS</a>]
00:29:38 ◼ ► because I feeling was a couple of gear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1778">TS</a>]
00:29:40 ◼ ► shift the first half of the novel i feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1780">TS</a>]
00:29:42 ◼ ► like is a sort of like there's this guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1782">TS</a>]
00:29:44 ◼ ► and and some weird things happen and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1784">TS</a>]
00:29:46 ◼ ► he sorted out of time a little bit but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1786">TS</a>]
00:29:48 ◼ ► he's investigating something that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1788">TS</a>]
00:29:50 ◼ ► going on and and it there's this sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1790">TS</a>]
00:29:52 ◼ ► spy element of you know I'm done on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1792">TS</a>]
00:29:55 ◼ ► planet and what's going on and trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1795">TS</a>]
00:29:57 ◼ ► mislead me and maybe there are aliens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1797">TS</a>]
00:29:59 ◼ ► down here but we don't really know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1799">TS</a>]
00:30:00 ◼ ► they're aliens down here i'm gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1800">TS</a>]
00:30:02 ◼ ► figure it out and it's a little Indiana [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1802">TS</a>]
00:30:04 ◼ ► Jones like and I thought all right I get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1804">TS</a>]
00:30:06 ◼ ► what this book is gonna be and then like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1806">TS</a>]
00:30:09 ◼ ► that you again and then it's what would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1809">TS</a>]
00:30:14 ◼ ► negotiating with aliens about joining [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1814">TS</a>]
00:30:16 ◼ ► their star Federation just like wow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1816">TS</a>]
00:30:19 ◼ ► that's just totally different book but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1819">TS</a>]
00:30:21 ◼ ► the book that I expected and so you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1821">TS</a>]
00:30:24 ◼ ► it's it's a very interesting book it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1824">TS</a>]
00:30:26 ◼ ► like several books and one hehe he has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1826">TS</a>]
00:30:30 ◼ ► co-written some stuff with Steve white [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1830">TS</a>]
00:30:32 ◼ ► setting the Starfire series which based [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1832">TS</a>]
00:30:35 ◼ ► on a a board game he worked for game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1835">TS</a>]
00:30:39 ◼ ► designers workshop on traveler and 2300 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1839">TS</a>]
00:30:41 ◼ ► ad which was a role-playing game in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1841">TS</a>]
00:30:44 ◼ ► eighties nineties and this feels very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1844">TS</a>]
00:30:46 ◼ ► much like 2308 including some of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1846">TS</a>]
00:30:49 ◼ ► same stars are used in the game in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1849">TS</a>]
00:30:51 ◼ ► book was like oh yeah and you're a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1851">TS</a>]
00:30:55 ◼ ► friend of mine is talking arised in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1855">TS</a>]
00:30:56 ◼ ► which was really amusing the without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1856">TS</a>]
00:31:00 ◼ ► the the ill-fated lieutenant we've upon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1860">TS</a>]
00:31:03 ◼ ► a certain ship in the asteroid belt is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1863">TS</a>]
00:31:09 ◼ ► it's nice yeah as with so many bein cut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1869">TS</a>]
00:31:12 ◼ ► books the cover is kind of embarrassing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1872">TS</a>]
00:31:14 ◼ ► like this is this book it's like a guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1874">TS</a>]
00:31:18 ◼ ► in a little bubble ship firing and at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1878">TS</a>]
00:31:22 ◼ ► things and that governs really i'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1882">TS</a>]
00:31:24 ◼ ► quite sure what that cover is supposed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1884">TS</a>]
00:31:27 ◼ ► to be but in all fairness it's not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1887">TS</a>]
00:31:30 ◼ ► worse it's really not in the picture I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1890">TS</a>]
00:31:35 ◼ ► mean it looks he looks kind of like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1895">TS</a>]
00:31:37 ◼ ► real person he doesn't look like they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1897">TS</a>]
00:31:40 ◼ ► used some sort of like weird cg clipart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1900">TS</a>]
00:31:44 ◼ ► that they got her like a dollar so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1904">TS</a>]
00:31:47 ◼ ► know i'll give them props friend and not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1907">TS</a>]
00:31:50 ◼ ► an o schedule a cat clad women like on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1910">TS</a>]
00:31:52 ◼ ► the dominant cleanser not books all guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1912">TS</a>]
00:31:56 ◼ ► are terrible yeah it's not that not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1916">TS</a>]
00:31:59 ◼ ► best not the best cover but yeah your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1919">TS</a>]
00:32:00 ◼ ► report you're right it's probably not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1920">TS</a>]
00:32:02 ◼ ► so what did what did people so like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1922">TS</a>]
00:32:04 ◼ ► said it it struck me as being a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1924">TS</a>]
00:32:07 ◼ ► there's a right-hand turn in the middle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1927">TS</a>]
00:32:09 ◼ ► of this book was like wow okay and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1929">TS</a>]
00:32:12 ◼ ► liked both of the kind of book it was I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1932">TS</a>]
00:32:14 ◼ ► like the I like the art who these aliens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1934">TS</a>]
00:32:17 ◼ ► there's a mystery there there's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1937">TS</a>]
00:32:18 ◼ ► unresolved mystery which did kind of bug [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1938">TS</a>]
00:32:20 ◼ ► me where it's like well will you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1940">TS</a>]
00:32:22 ◼ ► you could probably figure this out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1942">TS</a>]
00:32:24 ◼ ► read the next book and you'll find out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1944">TS</a>]
00:32:26 ◼ ► more but then the right-hand turn to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1946">TS</a>]
00:32:27 ◼ ► other thing I was like all right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1947">TS</a>]
00:32:28 ◼ ► we're in this side of politics and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1948">TS</a>]
00:32:30 ◼ ► negotiation and learning about who these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1950">TS</a>]
00:32:32 ◼ ► aliens are and how they how they get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1952">TS</a>]
00:32:34 ◼ ► along and and I thought that or don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1954">TS</a>]
00:32:36 ◼ ► get along as the case may be there isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1956">TS</a>]
00:32:39 ◼ ► nice to be invited to a club and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1959">TS</a>]
00:32:42 ◼ ► discover when when you're at your first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1962">TS</a>]
00:32:43 ◼ ► meeting that everybody in the club hate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1963">TS</a>]
00:32:45 ◼ ► essentially the the message here because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1965">TS</a>]
00:32:48 ◼ ► the aliens are not also it's not like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1968">TS</a>]
00:32:50 ◼ ► they're joining hands and sing Kumbaya [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1970">TS</a>]
00:32:52 ◼ ► this is not that kind of there's a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1972">TS</a>]
00:32:55 ◼ ► so what everybody else does everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1975">TS</a>]
00:32:57 ◼ ► else think Scott what do you think I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1977">TS</a>]
00:33:00 ◼ ► enjoyed it i thought it was fun i did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1980">TS</a>]
00:33:04 ◼ ► have trouble with the main character and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1984">TS</a>]
00:33:05 ◼ ► with the the main female characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1985">TS</a>]
00:33:09 ◼ ► the main character is like Cain Reardon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1989">TS</a>]
00:33:13 ◼ ► he's good at and fleece could everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1993">TS</a>]
00:33:15 ◼ ► that's right he could solve all our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1995">TS</a>]
00:33:16 ◼ ► problems because he's he's good at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1996">TS</a>]
00:33:19 ◼ ► don't don't question his methods he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/1999">TS</a>]
00:33:21 ◼ ► good he's good he's not great at being a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2001">TS</a>]
00:33:24 ◼ ► everything else that's right we could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2004">TS</a>]
00:33:27 ◼ ► teach him have a spy but we can't teach [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2007">TS</a>]
00:33:29 ◼ ► you how to think like him so I thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2009">TS</a>]
00:33:33 ◼ ► that was a bit much and then they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2013">TS</a>]
00:33:36 ◼ ► well what I thought might be a strong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2016">TS</a>]
00:33:38 ◼ ► female character who is also a drift in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2018">TS</a>]
00:33:40 ◼ ► time and she is a decorated military [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2020">TS</a>]
00:33:43 ◼ ► officer supposed to be his bodyguard but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2023">TS</a>]
00:33:46 ◼ ► really her whole reason for being in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2026">TS</a>]
00:33:48 ◼ ► book is that so he'll fall in love with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2028">TS</a>]
00:33:50 ◼ ► her and that they can then use their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2030">TS</a>]
00:33:53 ◼ ► relationship as kind of a pond to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2033">TS</a>]
00:33:55 ◼ ► him continue to be a spy for the shadowy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2035">TS</a>]
00:33:57 ◼ ► organization which I thought was kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2037">TS</a>]
00:33:59 ◼ ► a missed opportunity with a female [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2039">TS</a>]
00:34:05 ◼ ► descriptions of the descriptions of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2045">TS</a>]
00:34:07 ◼ ► women characters in the book are are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2047">TS</a>]
00:34:09 ◼ ► sometimes a little unfortunate where I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2049">TS</a>]
00:34:11 ◼ ► felt like it was very very kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2051">TS</a>]
00:34:12 ◼ ► old-school like she was a ravishing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2052">TS</a>]
00:34:16 ◼ ► beauty and let me describe her to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2056">TS</a>]
00:34:18 ◼ ► and then he was you know so i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2058">TS</a>]
00:34:21 ◼ ► I think they're in the main character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2061">TS</a>]
00:34:22 ◼ ► definitely is like he's just mr.perfect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2062">TS</a>]
00:34:24 ◼ ► he's great he's literally he is good at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2064">TS</a>]
00:34:26 ◼ ► everything that's true what everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2066">TS</a>]
00:34:31 ◼ ► Fred did you read this 1i i'm almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2071">TS</a>]
00:34:35 ◼ ► alright well I mean yeah whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2075">TS</a>]
00:34:37 ◼ ► terrible long yeah I can protect you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2077">TS</a>]
00:34:39 ◼ ► guys at the end no many times in a in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2079">TS</a>]
00:34:41 ◼ ► this time when he pretended yes but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2081">TS</a>]
00:34:45 ◼ ► mean I enjoyed the the hard science [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2085">TS</a>]
00:34:47 ◼ ► fiction but this was the hard science [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2087">TS</a>]
00:34:48 ◼ ► fiction entry for this year's crop and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2088">TS</a>]
00:34:51 ◼ ► think he's setting up for a long series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2091">TS</a>]
00:34:53 ◼ ► and I like some of the NCS dropping so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2093">TS</a>]
00:34:56 ◼ ► can see where it's going his military [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2096">TS</a>]
00:34:59 ◼ ► stuff is pretty authentic arm and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2099">TS</a>]
00:35:03 ◼ ► James P Hogan vibe at a couple points [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2103">TS</a>]
00:35:06 ◼ ► yes that's I actually that i was going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2106">TS</a>]
00:35:09 ◼ ► to say that but I wasn't sure if anybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2109">TS</a>]
00:35:12 ◼ ► I grew up and he lived in my town my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2112">TS</a>]
00:35:15 ◼ ► sonora california for many before you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2115">TS</a>]
00:35:17 ◼ ► got the crazy train right after you got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2117">TS</a>]
00:35:19 ◼ ► three it was I think he boarded the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2119">TS</a>]
00:35:21 ◼ ► crazy train while he was in Sonora but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2121">TS</a>]
00:35:23 ◼ ► uh but the it had an inherent the Stars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2123">TS</a>]
00:35:26 ◼ ► kind of feeling away because there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2126">TS</a>]
00:35:28 ◼ ► there's an impossible when he goes down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2128">TS</a>]
00:35:30 ◼ ► on the planet the beginning right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2130">TS</a>]
00:35:31 ◼ ► there's this sort of thing that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2131">TS</a>]
00:35:32 ◼ ► they're presented that's like how is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2132">TS</a>]
00:35:35 ◼ ► this is impossible how could this be and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2135">TS</a>]
00:35:38 ◼ ► that that was a very much like inherit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2138">TS</a>]
00:35:40 ◼ ► the Stars where it's like I'm just gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2140">TS</a>]
00:35:42 ◼ ► I'm gonna mention something that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2142">TS</a>]
00:35:43 ◼ ► impossible and you guys are gonna have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2143">TS</a>]
00:35:45 ◼ ► to start thinking with me about how I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2145">TS</a>]
00:35:49 ◼ ► this magic trick that I'm doing but even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2149">TS</a>]
00:35:51 ◼ ► part of that I was kind of like and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2151">TS</a>]
00:35:53 ◼ ► don't really buy it but certain other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2153">TS</a>]
00:35:55 ◼ ► sequence shortly before that involving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2155">TS</a>]
00:35:58 ◼ ► another Android all all say was I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2158">TS</a>]
00:36:03 ◼ ► actually thought was well written was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2163">TS</a>]
00:36:05 ◼ ► kind of neat was like putting together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2165">TS</a>]
00:36:08 ◼ ► oh no that key oh Michael yes you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2168">TS</a>]
00:36:10 ◼ ► like yeah I just thought that was a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2170">TS</a>]
00:36:13 ◼ ► part yeah there's there's some really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2173">TS</a>]
00:36:14 ◼ ► nice kind of almost first contact first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2174">TS</a>]
00:36:16 ◼ ► ? contact stuff that is really creepy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2176">TS</a>]
00:36:20 ◼ ► and interesting and i love i love jack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2180">TS</a>]
00:36:24 ◼ ► mcdevitt is a is a i'm not sure i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2184">TS</a>]
00:36:27 ◼ ► say guilty because I is a pleasure to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2187">TS</a>]
00:36:29 ◼ ► read i love those books there are a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2189">TS</a>]
00:36:30 ◼ ► of fun and I like the word on a planet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2190">TS</a>]
00:36:33 ◼ ► who knows if there are aliens here and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2193">TS</a>]
00:36:36 ◼ ► civilization or maybe they're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2196">TS</a>]
00:36:37 ◼ ► completely dead and and the mystery and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2197">TS</a>]
00:36:39 ◼ ► that kind of almost Indiana Jones kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2199">TS</a>]
00:36:42 ◼ ► of feeling of exploration that's another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2202">TS</a>]
00:36:45 ◼ ► good comparison for this one who's that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2205">TS</a>]
00:36:47 ◼ ► the first part of the book feels like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2207">TS</a>]
00:36:48 ◼ ► that and then it then it goes in a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2208">TS</a>]
00:36:50 ◼ ► different direction who I anybody else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2210">TS</a>]
00:36:53 ◼ ► read this one I just started it I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2213">TS</a>]
00:36:56 ◼ ► really get that far into it now i do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2216">TS</a>]
00:36:58 ◼ ► want to continue reading especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2218">TS</a>]
00:37:00 ◼ ► since we've had the these mild spoilers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2220">TS</a>]
00:37:02 ◼ ► i can I want to see where I want to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2222">TS</a>]
00:37:04 ◼ ► worry goes but yeah I don't have enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2224">TS</a>]
00:37:08 ◼ ► to really form o.a.r impression of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2228">TS</a>]
00:37:11 ◼ ► I'm not enough that i haven't put it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2231">TS</a>]
00:37:12 ◼ ► down which is John I unfortunately have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2232">TS</a>]
00:37:15 ◼ ► not read it although fred was explaining [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2235">TS</a>]
00:37:17 ◼ ► to me earlier that the similarities but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2237">TS</a>]
00:37:19 ◼ ► she's already noted to traveler which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2239">TS</a>]
00:37:21 ◼ ► was a game that i bought a whole bunch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2241">TS</a>]
00:37:23 ◼ ► of books of when I was a teenager but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2243">TS</a>]
00:37:25 ◼ ► never got to play so I i do now want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2245">TS</a>]
00:37:29 ◼ ► read it based on that that reference but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2249">TS</a>]
00:37:32 ◼ ► it is one unfortunately I didn't get to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2252">TS</a>]
00:37:33 ◼ ► I'd say it's almost like the first half [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2253">TS</a>]
00:37:35 ◼ ► of the book is jack mcdevitt and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2255">TS</a>]
00:37:37 ◼ ► second half is maybe david brin kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2257">TS</a>]
00:37:39 ◼ ► uplifting a little bit different also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2259">TS</a>]
00:37:43 ◼ ► not one of my favorite people in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2263">TS</a>]
00:37:44 ◼ ► world but I love those uplift books and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2264">TS</a>]
00:37:47 ◼ ► it feels like that in the sense that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2267">TS</a>]
00:37:50 ◼ ► its humanity discovering that the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2270">TS</a>]
00:37:52 ◼ ► universe is a lot more complicated and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2272">TS</a>]
00:37:54 ◼ ► that they made they may not be you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2274">TS</a>]
00:37:56 ◼ ► they may be it upon in someone else's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2276">TS</a>]
00:37:58 ◼ ► game or they may not and they have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2278">TS</a>]
00:38:00 ◼ ► find their own way and there's a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2280">TS</a>]
00:38:01 ◼ ► that kind of vibe happening in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2281">TS</a>]
00:38:03 ◼ ► second half and yeah it was fun I I you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2283">TS</a>]
00:38:07 ◼ ► know if I had any any complaints beyond [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2287">TS</a>]
00:38:09 ◼ ► the main character being perfect and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2289">TS</a>]
00:38:10 ◼ ► like Scott said the the the woman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2290">TS</a>]
00:38:13 ◼ ► character maybe not being having enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2293">TS</a>]
00:38:15 ◼ ► of her own motivation for what she does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2295">TS</a>]
00:38:17 ◼ ► and it's the that their stuff that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2297">TS</a>]
00:38:22 ◼ ► really teed up in terms of there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2302">TS</a>]
00:38:24 ◼ ► some plot revelations about what they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2304">TS</a>]
00:38:26 ◼ ► find them at planet that are like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2306">TS</a>]
00:38:27 ◼ ► literally just never dealt with again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2307">TS</a>]
00:38:30 ◼ ► that that it's clear it's sort of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2310">TS</a>]
00:38:31 ◼ ► we'll you know that's another book next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2311">TS</a>]
00:38:33 ◼ ► book will talk about why they found that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2313">TS</a>]
00:38:35 ◼ ► thing on that planet later but it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2315">TS</a>]
00:38:39 ◼ ► it's just weird because it's too it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2319">TS</a>]
00:38:41 ◼ ► like two books in one it literally as if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2321">TS</a>]
00:38:43 ◼ ► you if you if you're not really enjoying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2323">TS</a>]
00:38:44 ◼ ► the first half just keep reading this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2324">TS</a>]
00:38:46 ◼ ► another book in there i probably will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2326">TS</a>]
00:38:51 ◼ ► yeah well it unless it gets nominated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2331">TS</a>]
00:38:52 ◼ ► for something I might I might depends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2332">TS</a>]
00:38:55 ◼ ► i'll see what people think of it but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2335">TS</a>]
00:38:57 ◼ ► know it was it was a it was kind of fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2337">TS</a>]
00:38:59 ◼ ► it was yeah it was definitely not one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2339">TS</a>]
00:39:01 ◼ ► those that i picked up and I and when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2341">TS</a>]
00:39:03 ◼ ► was done I I said boy can't believe that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2343">TS</a>]
00:39:05 ◼ ► book 2 is now yet I i believe the ark is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2345">TS</a>]
00:39:08 ◼ ► out I couldn't believe i have a copy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2348">TS</a>]
00:39:10 ◼ ► right i will be reading right so fire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2350">TS</a>]
00:39:15 ◼ ► I thought was yeah I was fine that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2355">TS</a>]
00:39:16 ◼ ► fun and if any of those uh author names [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2356">TS</a>]
00:39:20 ◼ ► that we rattled off their structure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2360">TS</a>]
00:39:22 ◼ ► right then you should give it a read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2362">TS</a>]
00:39:24 ◼ ► alright let's move on did anybody but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2364">TS</a>]
00:39:27 ◼ ► Scott Reed hill by nicola Griffith I did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2367">TS</a>]
00:39:30 ◼ ► not I did not all right Scott is all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2370">TS</a>]
00:39:33 ◼ ► like it's all on you I i bought i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2373">TS</a>]
00:39:35 ◼ ► actually bought it and Scott said don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2375">TS</a>]
00:39:38 ◼ ► don't worry well I mean it's a really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2378">TS</a>]
00:39:39 ◼ ► let me say this it's it's another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2379">TS</a>]
00:39:41 ◼ ► beautifully written book it's incredibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2381">TS</a>]
00:39:43 ◼ ► long it is not science fiction or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2383">TS</a>]
00:39:46 ◼ ► fantasy in any shape or form other than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2386">TS</a>]
00:39:50 ◼ ► the fact that so it's set in a it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2390">TS</a>]
00:39:56 ◼ ► historical figure she was in I forget [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2396">TS</a>]
00:40:02 ◼ ► assuming don't like this 700 700 or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2402">TS</a>]
00:40:07 ◼ ► Hildegard von Bingen I believe I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2407">TS</a>]
00:40:11 ◼ ► ok ok chart yes so she is viewed as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2411">TS</a>]
00:40:18 ◼ ► seer by some the pita the king and her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2418">TS</a>]
00:40:21 ◼ ► mother setting up to to be viewed as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2421">TS</a>]
00:40:23 ◼ ► this year but she openly admits that she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2423">TS</a>]
00:40:25 ◼ ► has no mystical power she just observes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2425">TS</a>]
00:40:27 ◼ ► things that other people are things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2427">TS</a>]
00:40:29 ◼ ► other people don't notice and then draws [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2429">TS</a>]
00:40:32 ◼ ► logical conclusions based on the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2432">TS</a>]
00:40:34 ◼ ► that she's seen around her and then when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2434">TS</a>]
00:40:36 ◼ ► she's proven right people think that she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2436">TS</a>]
00:40:38 ◼ ► has mystical abilities but she does not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2438">TS</a>]
00:40:40 ◼ ► have any missile abilities and so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2440">TS</a>]
00:40:43 ◼ ► the story of her maybe like 10 years of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2443">TS</a>]
00:40:47 ◼ ► it's beautifully written it is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2447">TS</a>]
00:40:50 ◼ ► it is historical fiction it's pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2450">TS</a>]
00:40:52 ◼ ► much straight historical fiction so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2452">TS</a>]
00:40:56 ◼ ► check it out if you want to read like an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2456">TS</a>]
00:40:59 ◼ ► its hilt was really good alright and on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2459">TS</a>]
00:41:06 ◼ ► time-traveling people just steps through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2466">TS</a>]
00:41:08 ◼ ► a door and goes hey haha except in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2468">TS</a>]
00:41:12 ◼ ► hey rube science fiction done i was this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2472">TS</a>]
00:41:16 ◼ ► was the other one that maybe we can look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2476">TS</a>]
00:41:18 ◼ ► at the rules ridiculous to figure out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2478">TS</a>]
00:41:21 ◼ ► why I mean based on if you're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2481">TS</a>]
00:41:23 ◼ ► looking at how well it was written it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2483">TS</a>]
00:41:25 ◼ ► clearly a nominee worthy but once again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2485">TS</a>]
00:41:29 ◼ ► it you're putting it into a science [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2489">TS</a>]
00:41:31 ◼ ► fiction and fantasy award and I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2491">TS</a>]
00:41:33 ◼ ► know how it fits in the genre but it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2493">TS</a>]
00:41:36 ◼ ► a novel and genre novel if his honor or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2496">TS</a>]
00:41:39 ◼ ► author righted says it's john or even if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2499">TS</a>]
00:41:41 ◼ ► it doesn't seem Joshua that seems to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2501">TS</a>]
00:41:43 ◼ ► the question of this nebula value with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2503">TS</a>]
00:41:46 ◼ ► with with with this end with the Fowler [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2506">TS</a>]
00:41:49 ◼ ► well these these clearly the nominees [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2509">TS</a>]
00:41:51 ◼ ► the shortlist makers of the nebulas feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2511">TS</a>]
00:41:54 ◼ ► that if you're us if you're in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2514">TS</a>]
00:41:55 ◼ ► fraternity of being a science fiction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2515">TS</a>]
00:41:58 ◼ ► writer then and you're right things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2518">TS</a>]
00:42:02 ◼ ► you're eligible and that's fine I get it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2522">TS</a>]
00:42:04 ◼ ► it's just if you're looking for for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2524">TS</a>]
00:42:06 ◼ ► great new science fiction novels to read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2526">TS</a>]
00:42:08 ◼ ► you got to be careful because some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2528">TS</a>]
00:42:10 ◼ ► these are you know maybe it's a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2530">TS</a>]
00:42:11 ◼ ► trick like hey read something outside of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2531">TS</a>]
00:42:13 ◼ ► the genre that's fine but it you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2533">TS</a>]
00:42:15 ◼ ► that this is a historical fiction novel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2535">TS</a>]
00:42:18 ◼ ► by somebody who's written science [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2538">TS</a>]
00:42:19 ◼ ► fiction in the past you and probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2539">TS</a>]
00:42:20 ◼ ► short works was also one that people say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2540">TS</a>]
00:42:24 ◼ ► why is the science fiction maybe wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2544">TS</a>]
00:42:28 ◼ ► yeah they add that that was even run on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2548">TS</a>]
00:42:31 ◼ ► tor.com but its larger and larger right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2551">TS</a>]
00:42:37 ◼ ► yeah the ending of that particular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2557">TS</a>]
00:42:39 ◼ ► novella is is I think close enough to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2559">TS</a>]
00:42:47 ◼ ► yeah it you get to the end you go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2567">TS</a>]
00:42:48 ◼ ► there's like a weird moment where things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2568">TS</a>]
00:42:51 ◼ ► sort of become like a not quite real and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2571">TS</a>]
00:42:54 ◼ ► that's enough but it's very very low key [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2574">TS</a>]
00:42:57 ◼ ► I mean I've got bad halfway through and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2577">TS</a>]
00:42:58 ◼ ► I'm like I really like this but where's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2578">TS</a>]
00:43:01 ◼ ► the syfy so because it seems like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2581">TS</a>]
00:43:04 ◼ ► nostalgia peace until you get to the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2584">TS</a>]
00:43:06 ◼ ► and then it's so nostalgic piece but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2586">TS</a>]
00:43:08 ◼ ► there's also this sort of weirdness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2588">TS</a>]
00:43:09 ◼ ► which I'm not gonna ruin because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2589">TS</a>]
00:43:12 ◼ ► no right ok so that's held Scott gives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2592">TS</a>]
00:43:17 ◼ ► it a thumbs up for quality and points [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2597">TS</a>]
00:43:19 ◼ ► out that is historical fiction if you'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2599">TS</a>]
00:43:20 ◼ ► like to know about the 700 check it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2600">TS</a>]
00:43:24 ◼ ► what we've i was looking at just a if i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2604">TS</a>]
00:43:27 ◼ ► was reading these books on just the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2607">TS</a>]
00:43:29 ◼ ► craft of writing Hilde should have one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2609">TS</a>]
00:43:31 ◼ ► not i don't i don't think it based on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2611">TS</a>]
00:43:35 ◼ ► the fact that this is a science fiction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2615">TS</a>]
00:43:36 ◼ ► fantasy award it should not be but time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2616">TS</a>]
00:43:40 ◼ ► to take a break for our sponsor our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2620">TS</a>]
00:43:43 ◼ ► sponsor this week is really exciting it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2623">TS</a>]
00:43:44 ◼ ► is a new trade paperback of a comic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2624">TS</a>]
00:43:47 ◼ ► called umbral is by anthony johnson and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2627">TS</a>]
00:43:50 ◼ ► Christopher mitten and anthony johnson [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2630">TS</a>]
00:43:53 ◼ ► is an incomparable listener in addition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2633">TS</a>]
00:43:55 ◼ ► to being a comic book writer and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2635">TS</a>]
00:43:57 ◼ ► writes a whole bunch of other stuff does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2637">TS</a>]
00:44:00 ◼ ► umbro I i read the issue one when it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2640">TS</a>]
00:44:03 ◼ ► first came out i just read the trade [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2643">TS</a>]
00:44:05 ◼ ► paperback it's the first thing these two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2645">TS</a>]
00:44:08 ◼ ► guys have created together since they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2648">TS</a>]
00:44:10 ◼ ► created the epic wasteland comic it is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2650">TS</a>]
00:44:13 ◼ ► high-concept story it is sort of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2653">TS</a>]
00:44:17 ◼ ► dark crystal meets saga they didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2657">TS</a>]
00:44:20 ◼ ► really designed it that way but that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2660">TS</a>]
00:44:21 ◼ ► sort of how it turned out the art is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2661">TS</a>]
00:44:23 ◼ ► really unique it looks unlike anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2663">TS</a>]
00:44:27 ◼ ► interesting art and the colors are all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2667">TS</a>]
00:44:29 ◼ ► very cool it's got a really awesome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2669">TS</a>]
00:44:32 ◼ ► female main character and it's good for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2672">TS</a>]
00:44:36 ◼ ► I would say new and non comics readers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2676">TS</a>]
00:44:39 ◼ ► and the comic curious this is a you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2679">TS</a>]
00:44:44 ◼ ► it sets you up with this sort of fantasy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2684">TS</a>]
00:44:46 ◼ ► story that you're expecting and then it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2686">TS</a>]
00:44:49 ◼ ► goes or at least I was expecting it goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2689">TS</a>]
00:44:51 ◼ ► in a different direction and there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2691">TS</a>]
00:44:52 ◼ ► some surprises and things that you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2692">TS</a>]
00:44:54 ◼ ► yeah if you go in expecting it to be yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2694">TS</a>]
00:44:57 ◼ ► another story that you've seen before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2697">TS</a>]
00:44:58 ◼ ► you will discover very rapidly that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2698">TS</a>]
00:45:00 ◼ ► is not what you're going to get lots of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2700">TS</a>]
00:45:05 ◼ ► anyway the trade paperback version [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2705">TS</a>]
00:45:06 ◼ ► collecting the first few issues has just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2706">TS</a>]
00:45:09 ◼ ► committed 268 pages long so it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2709">TS</a>]
00:45:15 ◼ ► the same size as saga vol.1 actually and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2715">TS</a>]
00:45:19 ◼ ► only 999 it even has a map in it so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2719">TS</a>]
00:45:22 ◼ ► can you know anybody who's read fantasy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2722">TS</a>]
00:45:25 ◼ ► map see what's happening in this and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2725">TS</a>]
00:45:27 ◼ ► this mythical land where this main [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2727">TS</a>]
00:45:32 ◼ ► yeah she discovered some pretty horrific [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2732">TS</a>]
00:45:34 ◼ ► creatures that are doing horrible things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2734">TS</a>]
00:45:36 ◼ ► and then she has a very interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2736">TS</a>]
00:45:38 ◼ ► adventure it's dark and weird and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2738">TS</a>]
00:45:40 ◼ ► liked it and so there is a site that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2740">TS</a>]
00:45:44 ◼ ► can go to go to the umbral dot-com th e [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2744">TS</a>]
00:45:48 ◼ ► UMB ral the umbral dot-com and I the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2748">TS</a>]
00:45:54 ◼ ► digital version of issue one of em bro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2754">TS</a>]
00:45:56 ◼ ► is free on comixology and on image [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2756">TS</a>]
00:45:59 ◼ ► comics his own site and then there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2759">TS</a>]
00:46:02 ◼ ► the trade paperback 999 on sale now just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2762">TS</a>]
00:46:06 ◼ ► went on sale earlier this week you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2766">TS</a>]
00:46:09 ◼ ► the complete vol 168 pages it's called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2769">TS</a>]
00:46:13 ◼ ► out of the shadows umbral umbr al [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2773">TS</a>]
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00:46:24 ◼ ► liked it by the trade paperback so thank [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2784">TS</a>]
00:46:26 ◼ ► you so much to anthony and two umbral [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2786">TS</a>]
00:46:29 ◼ ► for sponsoring this episode of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2789">TS</a>]
00:46:33 ◼ ► let's talk about the red colon first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2793">TS</a>]
00:46:37 ◼ ► light by linda nagata which i believe is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2797">TS</a>]
00:46:41 ◼ ► essentially a self-published novel the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2801">TS</a>]
00:46:44 ◼ ► denominator is pretty cool and she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2804">TS</a>]
00:46:47 ◼ ► written a number of novels in the past [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2807">TS</a>]
00:46:49 ◼ ► but I think they're all she's republish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2809">TS</a>]
00:46:51 ◼ ► the mall yourself at this point so this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2811">TS</a>]
00:46:53 ◼ ► is also a military focused science [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2813">TS</a>]
00:46:57 ◼ ► fiction it's interesting in that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2817">TS</a>]
00:46:59 ◼ ► mixes military characters and action [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2819">TS</a>]
00:47:07 ◼ ► interesting political sentiment in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2827">TS</a>]
00:47:10 ◼ ► like the first thing in the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2830">TS</a>]
00:47:11 ◼ ► paragraph of the first chapter is about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2831">TS</a>]
00:47:14 ◼ ► how you know listen the world is run by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2834">TS</a>]
00:47:17 ◼ ► the arms dealers and you know they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2837">TS</a>]
00:47:19 ◼ ► all just making profits for the defense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2839">TS</a>]
00:47:21 ◼ ► industry and we're just the the soldiers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2841">TS</a>]
00:47:23 ◼ ► here just gonna get chewed up by this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2843">TS</a>]
00:47:25 ◼ ► machine is doing this and that's how the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2845">TS</a>]
00:47:27 ◼ ► that's how that it it starts this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2847">TS</a>]
00:47:30 ◼ ► also a book that takes a right-hand turn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2850">TS</a>]
00:47:31 ◼ ► because they're we we meet a group of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2851">TS</a>]
00:47:33 ◼ ► soldiers out in Africa American soldiers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2853">TS</a>]
00:47:38 ◼ ► and and it's a fascinating little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2858">TS</a>]
00:47:42 ◼ ► but we don't stay with them very long in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2862">TS</a>]
00:47:44 ◼ ► the end and the book goes in a in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2864">TS</a>]
00:47:46 ◼ ► different direction from there and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2866">TS</a>]
00:47:48 ◼ ► becomes this interesting combination of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2868">TS</a>]
00:47:51 ◼ ► military action and this recurring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2871">TS</a>]
00:47:55 ◼ ► question for uh about if there is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2875">TS</a>]
00:48:01 ◼ ► definitely a science fiction it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2881">TS</a>]
00:48:04 ◼ ► intelligence that may or may not be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2884">TS</a>]
00:48:06 ◼ ► emerging in an interesting way and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2886">TS</a>]
00:48:08 ◼ ► main character is a guy who was a given [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2888">TS</a>]
00:48:12 ◼ ► the choice of being in the Army or going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2892">TS</a>]
00:48:14 ◼ ► to jail because he was at it in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2894">TS</a>]
00:48:17 ◼ ► political protest and so he decides to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2897">TS</a>]
00:48:19 ◼ ► do this and he leaves his girlfriend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2899">TS</a>]
00:48:21 ◼ ► behind and decides to stay out of jail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2901">TS</a>]
00:48:23 ◼ ► and become a and become a soldier and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2903">TS</a>]
00:48:26 ◼ ► ends up in another in another thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2906">TS</a>]
00:48:28 ◼ ► happens here ends up being the recipient [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2908">TS</a>]
00:48:30 ◼ ► of some of the earliest high technology [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2910">TS</a>]
00:48:33 ◼ ► for veterans to sort of like give them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2913">TS</a>]
00:48:35 ◼ ► Bionic parts and and so that's a thread [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2915">TS</a>]
00:48:39 ◼ ► that runs through this you got the AI [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2919">TS</a>]
00:48:40 ◼ ► stuff you've got the first bionic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2920">TS</a>]
00:48:42 ◼ ► soldier stuff you've got the questions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2922">TS</a>]
00:48:44 ◼ ► about how power in this future world is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2924">TS</a>]
00:48:46 ◼ ► controlled by the arms dealers and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2926">TS</a>]
00:48:51 ◼ ► government's and it's all just sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2931">TS</a>]
00:48:53 ◼ ► mixed together in an interesting way and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2933">TS</a>]
00:48:56 ◼ ► at some point minor spoiler at some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2936">TS</a>]
00:48:58 ◼ ► point a nuclear bomb goes off very close [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2938">TS</a>]
00:49:00 ◼ ► to people and that's also very exciting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2940">TS</a>]
00:49:02 ◼ ► so what did what did everybody think of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2942">TS</a>]
00:49:04 ◼ ► that spread why did you give us a give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2944">TS</a>]
00:49:07 ◼ ► uh I enjoyed a lot of read it in about a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2947">TS</a>]
00:49:10 ◼ ► day sneaking it here and there she does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2950">TS</a>]
00:49:14 ◼ ► a good job depicting mean especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2954">TS</a>]
00:49:16 ◼ ► that opening sequence excellent job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2956">TS</a>]
00:49:18 ◼ ► depicting the military know in a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2958">TS</a>]
00:49:21 ◼ ► bad situation i really like the mix of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2961">TS</a>]
00:49:23 ◼ ► politics and the noticed there's no info [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2963">TS</a>]
00:49:29 ◼ ► Technology she drops little politics you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2969">TS</a>]
00:49:31 ◼ ► mix it all together nicely arm some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2971">TS</a>]
00:49:37 ◼ ► relationship between the main character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2977">TS</a>]
00:49:39 ◼ ► his father and his girlfriend very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2979">TS</a>]
00:49:41 ◼ ► interesting you know it's the father is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2981">TS</a>]
00:49:45 ◼ ► proud of what he's doing but very upset [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2985">TS</a>]
00:49:47 ◼ ► that he keeps disappearing for come on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2987">TS</a>]
00:49:51 ◼ ► you know getting body parts blown off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2991">TS</a>]
00:49:53 ◼ ► and coming back broken and i think if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2993">TS</a>]
00:49:59 ◼ ► you like spy novels you like this one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/2999">TS</a>]
00:50:01 ◼ ► you like military is if you like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3001">TS</a>]
00:50:02 ◼ ► one if you like burning gay you like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3002">TS</a>]
00:50:05 ◼ ► this one arm she put together quite a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3005">TS</a>]
00:50:10 ◼ ► nice entry and they what I so far to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3010">TS</a>]
00:50:13 ◼ ► book series we'll see how Fargo's sean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3013">TS</a>]
00:50:19 ◼ ► yeah well Paul and I actually read it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3019">TS</a>]
00:50:21 ◼ ► for what it is another person we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3021">TS</a>]
00:50:24 ◼ ► it's not as fresh in my memory is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3024">TS</a>]
00:50:26 ◼ ► perhaps and friends are four paws uh I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3026">TS</a>]
00:50:29 ◼ ► also really like this i think the larger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3029">TS</a>]
00:50:31 ◼ ► because like Joe Haldeman forever worse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3031">TS</a>]
00:50:34 ◼ ► one of my favorite books ever and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3034">TS</a>]
00:50:35 ◼ ► obviously this book has some does some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3035">TS</a>]
00:50:38 ◼ ► things take the technology there's are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3038">TS</a>]
00:50:40 ◼ ► similar and deals with some of the very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3040">TS</a>]
00:50:41 ◼ ► aggressive political aspects in terms of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3041">TS</a>]
00:50:45 ◼ ► the sort of military industrial complex [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3045">TS</a>]
00:50:46 ◼ ► stuff and that's that's something that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3046">TS</a>]
00:50:49 ◼ ► find really fascinating is it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3049">TS</a>]
00:50:50 ◼ ► when science fiction's working the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3050">TS</a>]
00:50:52 ◼ ► it's not just sticking with the status [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3052">TS</a>]
00:50:55 ◼ ► quo is questioning what whatever the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3055">TS</a>]
00:50:57 ◼ ► status quo happens to be an issue i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3057">TS</a>]
00:51:00 ◼ ► think you noted at the very beginning it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3060">TS</a>]
00:51:02 ◼ ► pretty much like puts this like it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3062">TS</a>]
00:51:04 ◼ ► puts out all of its cards and says here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3064">TS</a>]
00:51:06 ◼ ► you go hit know that you know what we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3066">TS</a>]
00:51:08 ◼ ► playing with right now I'm v defense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3068">TS</a>]
00:51:11 ◼ ► industry you know and contractors have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3071">TS</a>]
00:51:13 ◼ ► lots of control starts out and you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3073">TS</a>]
00:51:15 ◼ ► thinking it's sort of like a rant of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3075">TS</a>]
00:51:17 ◼ ► character and then fairly soon after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3077">TS</a>]
00:51:19 ◼ ► like oh no that's the plot that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3079">TS</a>]
00:51:22 ◼ ► yeah it it can be a little heavy-handed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3082">TS</a>]
00:51:24 ◼ ► i think at times but it's also it i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3084">TS</a>]
00:51:27 ◼ ► think it's doing something that is very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3087">TS</a>]
00:51:29 ◼ ► current in the same way that Haldeman's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3089">TS</a>]
00:51:32 ◼ ► book was very current for at least when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3092">TS</a>]
00:51:34 ◼ ► he was writing it was in this sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3094">TS</a>]
00:51:36 ◼ ► post Vietnam era in this way to dealing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3096">TS</a>]
00:51:38 ◼ ► with a very different type of of war [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3098">TS</a>]
00:51:42 ◼ ► industrial military industrial complex [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3102">TS</a>]
00:51:44 ◼ ► and it's obviously taking a very sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3104">TS</a>]
00:51:48 ◼ ► extrapolated view of it and i find it i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3108">TS</a>]
00:51:50 ◼ ► just find that really fascinating i like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3110">TS</a>]
00:51:52 ◼ ► when science-fiction military SF in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3112">TS</a>]
00:51:54 ◼ ► particular is actually trying to deal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3114">TS</a>]
00:51:56 ◼ ► with real-world issues and a slightly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3116">TS</a>]
00:51:59 ◼ ► future science fiction setting instead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3119">TS</a>]
00:52:01 ◼ ► of just sort of taking us five billion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3121">TS</a>]
00:52:04 ◼ ► we're just fighting aliens with no faces [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3124">TS</a>]
00:52:07 ◼ ► and stuff which can be fun but maybe not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3127">TS</a>]
00:52:10 ◼ ► as relevant to today so I'm that since I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3130">TS</a>]
00:52:14 ◼ ► what about you Paul yeah I as Sean said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3134">TS</a>]
00:52:17 ◼ ► we reread this early last year I've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3137">TS</a>]
00:52:21 ◼ ► reading into stuff for a long time and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3141">TS</a>]
00:52:23 ◼ ► she had dropped out of the SF here for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3143">TS</a>]
00:52:25 ◼ ► while she did a couple friends see now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3145">TS</a>]
00:52:27 ◼ ► that I was very glad when she came back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3147">TS</a>]
00:52:29 ◼ ► like hope she's gonna stop always book I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3149">TS</a>]
00:52:32 ◼ ► so I delved into it I was kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3152">TS</a>]
00:52:34 ◼ ► predisposed to like it on those bases [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3154">TS</a>]
00:52:37 ◼ ► and so it's ok military SF ok politics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3157">TS</a>]
00:52:40 ◼ ► and then AI think ok now i start to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3160">TS</a>]
00:52:42 ◼ ► where where where the wind and the guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3162">TS</a>]
00:52:44 ◼ ► that i read back in the 90 uses was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3164">TS</a>]
00:52:47 ◼ ► coming into this is because as sorry as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3167">TS</a>]
00:52:49 ◼ ► like this doesn't feel like it feels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3169">TS</a>]
00:52:51 ◼ ► like her writing but it isn't it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3171">TS</a>]
00:52:53 ◼ ► then when when she went the strings all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3173">TS</a>]
00:52:54 ◼ ► finally started mixing together ice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3174">TS</a>]
00:52:56 ◼ ► serve see okay now this feels like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3176">TS</a>]
00:52:59 ◼ ► wind and they got a book and I was very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3179">TS</a>]
00:53:00 ◼ ► very happy to have another Linda got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3180">TS</a>]
00:53:03 ◼ ► book that makes any sense because she is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3183">TS</a>]
00:53:06 ◼ ► an underrated underrated writer and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3186">TS</a>]
00:53:09 ◼ ► glad to see that she's up i got their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3189">TS</a>]
00:53:11 ◼ ► publishing and getting new readers she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3191">TS</a>]
00:53:13 ◼ ► been nominated for this award before is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3193">TS</a>]
00:53:15 ◼ ► yeah long long time ago yeah now i had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3195">TS</a>]
00:53:19 ◼ ► read anything by her so I was intrigued [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3199">TS</a>]
00:53:21 ◼ ► Scott what did you think of this one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3201">TS</a>]
00:53:22 ◼ ► i also have never read anything by heard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3202">TS</a>]
00:53:26 ◼ ► so I I that was good i'm glad i read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3206">TS</a>]
00:53:29 ◼ ► this book because i liked it i have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3209">TS</a>]
00:53:30 ◼ ► don't read a lot of military science [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3210">TS</a>]
00:53:32 ◼ ► fiction Clyde you have a soft spot for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3212">TS</a>]
00:53:34 ◼ ► military science fiction so I thought I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3214">TS</a>]
00:53:37 ◼ ► enjoyed it i like the twists are like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3217">TS</a>]
00:53:39 ◼ ► everyone said it's kind of a very it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3219">TS</a>]
00:53:42 ◼ ► feels very contemporary she's trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3222">TS</a>]
00:53:44 ◼ ► make a point I like novels that have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3224">TS</a>]
00:53:46 ◼ ► point of view and this certainly has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3226">TS</a>]
00:53:48 ◼ ► very strong point of view and it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3228">TS</a>]
00:53:51 ◼ ► shy about letting you know what that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3231">TS</a>]
00:53:53 ◼ ► point of view is and i thought as i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3233">TS</a>]
00:53:55 ◼ ► reading it I thought okay well i know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3235">TS</a>]
00:53:57 ◼ ► what i'm getting this it starts off the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3237">TS</a>]
00:54:00 ◼ ► straightforward military science fiction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3240">TS</a>]
00:54:04 ◼ ► I know what's happening and then she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3244">TS</a>]
00:54:05 ◼ ► kind of swerves and the whole AI thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3245">TS</a>]
00:54:08 ◼ ► happens and nuclear bombs go haha [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3248">TS</a>]
00:54:12 ◼ ► all kinds of crazy stuff happens but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3252">TS</a>]
00:54:14 ◼ ► even with all this crazy stuff she has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3254">TS</a>]
00:54:16 ◼ ► characters that are believable and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3256">TS</a>]
00:54:17 ◼ ► have relationships and you know i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3257">TS</a>]
00:54:20 ◼ ► giving fire with fire a hard time for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3260">TS</a>]
00:54:23 ◼ ► the female character I feel like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3263">TS</a>]
00:54:26 ◼ ► characters in it which i think is great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3266">TS</a>]
00:54:29 ◼ ► but it's not it doesn't make it it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3269">TS</a>]
00:54:32 ◼ ► like trumpeting the fact that hey look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3272">TS</a>]
00:54:34 ◼ ► there are strong feeling characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3274">TS</a>]
00:54:35 ◼ ► they're just characters in the book they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3275">TS</a>]
00:54:38 ◼ ► have things to do and that's great i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3278">TS</a>]
00:54:40 ◼ ► like the talk about the emergent AI [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3280">TS</a>]
00:54:43 ◼ ► think I really I i like the fact that so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3283">TS</a>]
00:54:49 ◼ ► many depictions of AI in science fiction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3289">TS</a>]
00:54:51 ◼ ► are and you know and then it became [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3291">TS</a>]
00:54:54 ◼ ► alive and began to talk to us and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3294">TS</a>]
00:54:56 ◼ ► that and this this seems a you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3296">TS</a>]
00:54:59 ◼ ► more likely a scenario to me which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3299">TS</a>]
00:55:02 ◼ ► that there is something that is emergent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3302">TS</a>]
00:55:05 ◼ ► that has behavior that you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3305">TS</a>]
00:55:08 ◼ ► coming from somewhere and it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3308">TS</a>]
00:55:09 ◼ ► natural but it's actually unclear how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3309">TS</a>]
00:55:12 ◼ ► intelligence it even is if it thinks or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3312">TS</a>]
00:55:14 ◼ ► if it's just pushing reality and and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3314">TS</a>]
00:55:18 ◼ ► in ways that its programming is pushing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3318">TS</a>]
00:55:20 ◼ ► it to you know you can't get you can see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3320">TS</a>]
00:55:23 ◼ ► the shape of it it's just beneath the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3323">TS</a>]
00:55:26 ◼ ► surface and you don't know whether it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3326">TS</a>]
00:55:28 ◼ ► really thinking or not and at first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3328">TS</a>]
00:55:30 ◼ ► people don't even understand that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3330">TS</a>]
00:55:34 ◼ ► the main character that you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3334">TS</a>]
00:55:36 ◼ ► easier for people to think that he's got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3336">TS</a>]
00:55:38 ◼ ► vision from God then it is that he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3338">TS</a>]
00:55:41 ◼ ► been you know given information or B is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3341">TS</a>]
00:55:44 ◼ ► being manipulated by an artificial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3344">TS</a>]
00:55:46 ◼ ► intelligence and so that's a really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3346">TS</a>]
00:55:49 ◼ ► interesting twist I loved the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3349">TS</a>]
00:55:52 ◼ ► beginning in in Africa I thought that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3352">TS</a>]
00:55:54 ◼ ► was a really evocative segment and I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3354">TS</a>]
00:55:56 ◼ ► sort of sad when it ended but I I see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3356">TS</a>]
00:55:58 ◼ ► why you know how was the story she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3358">TS</a>]
00:56:00 ◼ ► wanted to tell she took told that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3360">TS</a>]
00:56:02 ◼ ► almost like a little short story and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3362">TS</a>]
00:56:04 ◼ ► then kicked us into the rest of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3364">TS</a>]
00:56:05 ◼ ► story which was which was really nice if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3365">TS</a>]
00:56:08 ◼ ► I have a complaint about this it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3368">TS</a>]
00:56:09 ◼ ► probably that I felt like it went a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3369">TS</a>]
00:56:11 ◼ ► little too long and after after you blow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3371">TS</a>]
00:56:16 ◼ ► up a nuclear bomb high above not that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3376">TS</a>]
00:56:20 ◼ ► high above many of your characters I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3380">TS</a>]
00:56:25 ◼ ► that's probably as good as it's gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3385">TS</a>]
00:56:27 ◼ ► get and I felt that kind of went on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3387">TS</a>]
00:56:29 ◼ ► little bit long after that there was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3389">TS</a>]
00:56:31 ◼ ► lot of of their there was some more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3391">TS</a>]
00:56:34 ◼ ► action and and there's an airplane chase [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3394">TS</a>]
00:56:37 ◼ ► at one point and I felt like the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3397">TS</a>]
00:56:41 ◼ ► climactic things have already happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3401">TS</a>]
00:56:42 ◼ ► and that I was kind of ready for it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3402">TS</a>]
00:56:45 ◼ ► be over so i guess that would be my one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3405">TS</a>]
00:56:47 ◼ ► complaint about it is there's a whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3407">TS</a>]
00:56:49 ◼ ► thing where there's somebody taken [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3409">TS</a>]
00:56:50 ◼ ► hostage and there's people on one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3410">TS</a>]
00:56:53 ◼ ► airplane and yeah you know at that point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3413">TS</a>]
00:56:55 ◼ ► I i felt like i had my foot fill in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3415">TS</a>]
00:56:59 ◼ ► it didn't need to keep going on but but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3419">TS</a>]
00:57:02 ◼ ► no it was a lot of fun that was not what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3422">TS</a>]
00:57:04 ◼ ► I expected from reading the community [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3424">TS</a>]
00:57:06 ◼ ► from the cover and from assuming that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3426">TS</a>]
00:57:08 ◼ ► was a military and no point did any of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3428">TS</a>]
00:57:11 ◼ ► the characters devolved into what they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3431">TS</a>]
00:57:12 ◼ ► could I mean that you know I went to buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3432">TS</a>]
00:57:14 ◼ ► became a soldier instead of going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3434">TS</a>]
00:57:16 ◼ ► prison or the father whose protesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3436">TS</a>]
00:57:18 ◼ ► about his son's life choices or the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3438">TS</a>]
00:57:19 ◼ ► girlfriend who breaks up with him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3439">TS</a>]
00:57:20 ◼ ► because he's going in the military [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3440">TS</a>]
00:57:22 ◼ ► all of those seem like they could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3442">TS</a>]
00:57:24 ◼ ► stock characters and none of them are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3444">TS</a>]
00:57:27 ◼ ► behaving in totally you know predictable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3447">TS</a>]
00:57:34 ◼ ► self-published novel has appeared on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3454">TS</a>]
00:57:35 ◼ ► this I think yeah I think so yeah which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3455">TS</a>]
00:57:38 ◼ ► is really interesting when you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3458">TS</a>]
00:57:40 ◼ ► about it because that's like we had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3460">TS</a>]
00:57:42 ◼ ► big conversation I think last year about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3462">TS</a>]
00:57:45 ◼ ► I think they like you how he or somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3465">TS</a>]
00:57:48 ◼ ► nominated for like the the proper awards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3468">TS</a>]
00:57:52 ◼ ► because they're self-publisher some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3472">TS</a>]
00:57:54 ◼ ► remember who was it probably wasn't you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3474">TS</a>]
00:57:55 ◼ ► Howie but then of course now where we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3475">TS</a>]
00:57:58 ◼ ► are 2014 is like well as a punishment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3478">TS</a>]
00:58:00 ◼ ► got nominated so what if she may have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3480">TS</a>]
00:58:02 ◼ ► made it easier to nominate she's already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3482">TS</a>]
00:58:06 ◼ ► been known for ya got a number of years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3486">TS</a>]
00:58:08 ◼ ► she seems to be approaching this I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3488">TS</a>]
00:58:10 ◼ ► it's not like hi I'm Linda and I have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3490">TS</a>]
00:58:14 ◼ ► book she's got as the way she seems to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3494">TS</a>]
00:58:17 ◼ ► publisher and I am publishing these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3497">TS</a>]
00:58:21 ◼ ► publishing company with a name and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3501">TS</a>]
00:58:23 ◼ ► is trying to sort of self-published with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3503">TS</a>]
00:58:26 ◼ ► the trappings of being in a you know in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3506">TS</a>]
00:58:28 ◼ ► a publishing house even though she's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3508">TS</a>]
00:58:30 ◼ ► which has got an interesting approach [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3510">TS</a>]
00:58:33 ◼ ► I think number alright um let's then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3513">TS</a>]
00:58:37 ◼ ► then unless there's anything else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3517">TS</a>]
00:58:39 ◼ ► about that move on to a stranger in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3519">TS</a>]
00:58:42 ◼ ► laundry abay Sophia samatar this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3522">TS</a>]
00:58:45 ◼ ► gonna be interesting haha why don't I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3525">TS</a>]
00:58:49 ◼ ► somebody else might want to Scott can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3529">TS</a>]
00:58:51 ◼ ► you help me out here can you explain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3531">TS</a>]
00:58:53 ◼ ► what this book is about uh well do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3533">TS</a>]
00:58:56 ◼ ► remember it i do remember it i remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3536">TS</a>]
00:58:59 ◼ ► parts of it it's the story of a young [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3539">TS</a>]
00:59:02 ◼ ► man whose father grows peppers directly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3542">TS</a>]
00:59:08 ◼ ► yes he did he takes a trip he meet some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3548">TS</a>]
00:59:11 ◼ ► interesting people he learns how to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3551">TS</a>]
00:59:16 ◼ ► yes he's he's instructed by a traveler [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3556">TS</a>]
00:59:20 ◼ ► from the far-off big-city the trend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3560">TS</a>]
00:59:23 ◼ ► learns how to read and write and speak [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3563">TS</a>]
00:59:24 ◼ ► the language of the far-off city right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3564">TS</a>]
00:59:26 ◼ ► traveled to that City he's he's haunted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3566">TS</a>]
00:59:33 ◼ ► yeah apparently he is kidnapped by some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3573">TS</a>]
00:59:38 ◼ ► religious people put into an asylum of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3578">TS</a>]
00:59:42 ◼ ► he is a then kind of kidnapped by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3582">TS</a>]
00:59:45 ◼ ► another group of people who escaped help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3585">TS</a>]
00:59:49 ◼ ► there's a scene where religious group [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3589">TS</a>]
00:59:52 ◼ ► holds a fair and everybody gets beat up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3592">TS</a>]
00:59:54 ◼ ► and then he hides out all trying to come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3594">TS</a>]
00:59:54 ◼ ► and then he hides out all trying to come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3594">TS</a>]
01:00:00 ◼ ► here himself from was honoring yes at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3600">TS</a>]
01:00:02 ◼ ► the end of he goes to the end of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3602">TS</a>]
01:00:05 ◼ ► yes and writes a book in the margins of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3605">TS</a>]
01:00:07 ◼ ► another book while someone else is dying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3607">TS</a>]
01:00:09 ◼ ► but they're not dying because the ghost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3609">TS</a>]
01:00:11 ◼ ► helps him keep them alive and then when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3611">TS</a>]
01:00:14 ◼ ► he finishes writing the book the ghost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3614">TS</a>]
01:00:16 ◼ ► goes away everybody's happy and he goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3616">TS</a>]
01:00:20 ◼ ► sort of yeah kind of is that there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3620">TS</a>]
01:00:24 ◼ ► that shirt yeah i really did remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3624">TS</a>]
01:00:26 ◼ ► this will pick and I thought it went on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3626">TS</a>]
01:00:29 ◼ ► so long for such a short book it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3629">TS</a>]
01:00:34 ◼ ► short i read it on the kindle it didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3634">TS</a>]
01:00:37 ◼ ► it seemed very very very very long i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3637">TS</a>]
01:00:40 ◼ ► reading it and I could think this this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3640">TS</a>]
01:00:43 ◼ ► is good but perplexing i don't know why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3643">TS</a>]
01:00:49 ◼ ► i'm reading this I don't really care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3649">TS</a>]
01:00:52 ◼ ► about anything that's happening and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3652">TS</a>]
01:00:55 ◼ ► hope it will stop it you know it it it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3655">TS</a>]
01:00:59 ◼ ► kind of shaggy dog story right there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3659">TS</a>]
01:01:03 ◼ ► lots of stories right i mean that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3663">TS</a>]
01:01:05 ◼ ► the thing that stopped be actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3665">TS</a>]
01:01:06 ◼ ► because I enjoyed a lot of it but but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3666">TS</a>]
01:01:08 ◼ ► you know you get to a point where like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3668">TS</a>]
01:01:10 ◼ ► okay now i'm going to tell you and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3670">TS</a>]
01:01:12 ◼ ► literally the whole that we're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3672">TS</a>]
01:01:13 ◼ ► stop the entire book now and tell like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3673">TS</a>]
01:01:15 ◼ ► whole other books worth of a story to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3675">TS</a>]
01:01:18 ◼ ► get around like that let's back up until [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3678">TS</a>]
01:01:20 ◼ ► the ghost story or four excerpts from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3680">TS</a>]
01:01:22 ◼ ► books or excerpts from problems yeah and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3682">TS</a>]
01:01:25 ◼ ► that was that was what it beat me down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3685">TS</a>]
01:01:29 ◼ ► appreciate the quality of the writing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3689">TS</a>]
01:01:30 ◼ ► and I was sort of interested in what was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3690">TS</a>]
01:01:31 ◼ ► happening there are so many excerpts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3691">TS</a>]
01:01:34 ◼ ► from books and there's so many other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3694">TS</a>]
01:01:35 ◼ ► people's stories there's so many legends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3695">TS</a>]
01:01:38 ◼ ► well let me tell you the entire legend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3698">TS</a>]
01:01:40 ◼ ► of that and that that was what stretched [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3700">TS</a>]
01:01:43 ◼ ► I you know I I yeah yeah what was I well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3703">TS</a>]
01:01:47 ◼ ► what do other people who are not mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3707">TS</a>]
01:01:48 ◼ ► Scott think about this before i go on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3708">TS</a>]
01:01:50 ◼ ► too long about ok it the the writing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3710">TS</a>]
01:01:53 ◼ ► almost painfully beautiful it does have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3713">TS</a>]
01:01:56 ◼ ► that structure of let's drill down into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3716">TS</a>]
01:01:59 ◼ ► the story come back up again drill down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3719">TS</a>]
01:02:01 ◼ ► it can remind it reminded me I I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3721">TS</a>]
01:02:03 ◼ ► Fred will get the reference reminding me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3723">TS</a>]
01:02:05 ◼ ► of a of a bit in in gold LS kabak where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3725">TS</a>]
01:02:09 ◼ ► they were they explore stories where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3729">TS</a>]
01:02:11 ◼ ► drill down and come back up again and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3731">TS</a>]
01:02:13 ◼ ► a very almost a very picky mountain sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3733">TS</a>]
01:02:16 ◼ ► of structure to the book and that didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3736">TS</a>]
01:02:19 ◼ ► it's not a long book but it feels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3739">TS</a>]
01:02:22 ◼ ► spaa I tedious is not the right word [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3742">TS</a>]
01:02:25 ◼ ► because I wasn't bored it just it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3745">TS</a>]
01:02:28 ◼ ► it just had to take my time reading this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3748">TS</a>]
01:02:32 ◼ ► immersing myself into it and I couldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3752">TS</a>]
01:02:35 ◼ ► read a lot of it at at once because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3755">TS</a>]
01:02:38 ◼ ► was it was it was like how it was like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3758">TS</a>]
01:02:40 ◼ ► very rich rum cake and I could only have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3760">TS</a>]
01:02:43 ◼ ► a little bit at a time and then i had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3763">TS</a>]
01:02:46 ◼ ► put off because it was just too much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3766">TS</a>]
01:02:48 ◼ ► digest one time as think about like all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3768">TS</a>]
01:02:51 ◼ ► okay i can read some more now but I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3771">TS</a>]
01:02:53 ◼ ► cannot take I couldn't I couldn't cope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3773">TS</a>]
01:02:55 ◼ ► this down like some of the other other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3775">TS</a>]
01:02:57 ◼ ► of books and books in the this list this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3777">TS</a>]
01:03:01 ◼ ► had this idea really really work at to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3781">TS</a>]
01:03:03 ◼ ► actually get through i was it worth it i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3783">TS</a>]
01:03:07 ◼ ► think their readers who should never go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3787">TS</a>]
01:03:10 ◼ ► anywhere near this process hate hate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3790">TS</a>]
01:03:12 ◼ ► hate that yeah alright so i'm not sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3792">TS</a>]
01:03:17 ◼ ► if i can recommend this or not there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3797">TS</a>]
01:03:19 ◼ ► there's depth is definitely a book back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3799">TS</a>]
01:03:22 ◼ ► we'll definitely be devices i think yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3802">TS</a>]
01:03:26 ◼ ► this is this is going to be a book for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3806">TS</a>]
01:03:28 ◼ ► very particular kind of reader and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3808">TS</a>]
01:03:31 ◼ ► somebody maybe maybe a reader who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3811">TS</a>]
01:03:34 ◼ ► doesn't know what kind of book they like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3814">TS</a>]
01:03:36 ◼ ► which that you might want to throw it at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3816">TS</a>]
01:03:38 ◼ ► them and see what happens to their face [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3818">TS</a>]
01:03:39 ◼ ► think I actually really enjoyed it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3819">TS</a>]
01:03:44 ◼ ► and I actually talked to Sophia samatar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3824">TS</a>]
01:03:46 ◼ ► about the book before i had read it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3826">TS</a>]
01:03:48 ◼ ► earlier this year and that's partly why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3828">TS</a>]
01:03:50 ◼ ► i bought the book immediately and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3830">TS</a>]
01:03:53 ◼ ► had her sign and not realizing she'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3833">TS</a>]
01:03:54 ◼ ► already signed it because I was just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3834">TS</a>]
01:03:56 ◼ ► excited sochi personalize the signature [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3836">TS</a>]
01:03:59 ◼ ► which is kinda cool but it was a weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3839">TS</a>]
01:04:01 ◼ ► experience but I I'll i liked it and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3841">TS</a>]
01:04:04 ◼ ► think the reference i was actually gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3844">TS</a>]
01:04:05 ◼ ► go to is it seemed very much like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3845">TS</a>]
01:04:07 ◼ ► salmon rushdie book some of its uses of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3847">TS</a>]
01:04:11 ◼ ► other narratives that would and I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3851">TS</a>]
01:04:13 ◼ ► like that may have considering her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3853">TS</a>]
01:04:16 ◼ ► academic experience and her research [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3856">TS</a>]
01:04:19 ◼ ► into arabic literature there there is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3859">TS</a>]
01:04:22 ◼ ► connection into that tradition that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3862">TS</a>]
01:04:26 ◼ ► and I'm I'm not getting it because I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3866">TS</a>]
01:04:28 ◼ ► not that's not my field and i don't i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3868">TS</a>]
01:04:30 ◼ ► don't study that particular literature [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3870">TS</a>]
01:04:31 ◼ ► but that Russia would be the person that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3871">TS</a>]
01:04:35 ◼ ► connection to what the way in which it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3875">TS</a>]
01:04:36 ◼ ► goes in and outside of the story going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3876">TS</a>]
01:04:38 ◼ ► down and then going back up in this kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3878">TS</a>]
01:04:40 ◼ ► of a hill like structure in terms of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3880">TS</a>]
01:04:43 ◼ ► narrative and I also feel like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3883">TS</a>]
01:04:48 ◼ ► frustrating for a reader who maybe is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3888">TS</a>]
01:04:50 ◼ ► you know more attuned with a kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3890">TS</a>]
01:04:53 ◼ ► popular commercial type of writing but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3893">TS</a>]
01:04:57 ◼ ► challenging read this is definitely the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3897">TS</a>]
01:04:59 ◼ ► kind of book that you'll want because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3899">TS</a>]
01:05:01 ◼ ► it's it is it's not a simplistic read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3901">TS</a>]
01:05:06 ◼ ► not that there's anything wrong with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3906">TS</a>]
01:05:07 ◼ ► those but like for me like there's two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3907">TS</a>]
01:05:09 ◼ ► reasons i read I'm either looking just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3909">TS</a>]
01:05:10 ◼ ► to be entertained i'm looking to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3910">TS</a>]
01:05:12 ◼ ► intellectually stimulated sometimes I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3912">TS</a>]
01:05:14 ◼ ► get both which is cool but this one had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3914">TS</a>]
01:05:17 ◼ ► thought into that second category it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3917">TS</a>]
01:05:18 ◼ ► it's a book that's going to stimulate me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3918">TS</a>]
01:05:20 ◼ ► and it is written very beautifully it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3920">TS</a>]
01:05:22 ◼ ► does just really cool things with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3922">TS</a>]
01:05:24 ◼ ► narrative in terms of just like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3924">TS</a>]
01:05:26 ◼ ► there's no like straight narrative form [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3926">TS</a>]
01:05:28 ◼ ► here it's not you know there's not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3928">TS</a>]
01:05:30 ◼ ► normal climax you know that it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3930">TS</a>]
01:05:34 ◼ ► go from a to the the rising action and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3934">TS</a>]
01:05:36 ◼ ► all these kinds of sort of traditional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3936">TS</a>]
01:05:37 ◼ ► structure it breaks it apart gives us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3937">TS</a>]
01:05:40 ◼ ► all these different pieces to the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3940">TS</a>]
01:05:42 ◼ ► on its incredibly detailed so in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3942">TS</a>]
01:05:45 ◼ ► sense I think it's quite beautiful but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3945">TS</a>]
01:05:47 ◼ ► it's very much a small beer press kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3947">TS</a>]
01:05:48 ◼ ► of book if you're a fan of small press [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3948">TS</a>]
01:05:50 ◼ ► you're probably gonna love this one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3950">TS</a>]
01:05:52 ◼ ► storytelling is definitely the heart of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3952">TS</a>]
01:05:53 ◼ ► it i mean the whole point the ghost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3953">TS</a>]
01:05:55 ◼ ► entire thing is you will read a book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3955">TS</a>]
01:05:57 ◼ ► about me you will write a book about me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3957">TS</a>]
01:05:59 ◼ ► write it means a story that needs to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3959">TS</a>]
01:06:01 ◼ ► told this story needs to be told and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3961">TS</a>]
01:06:03 ◼ ► this is a an illiterate kid who learns [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3963">TS</a>]
01:06:06 ◼ ► literacy and learns about the literature [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3966">TS</a>]
01:06:08 ◼ ► of this country and then visit the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3968">TS</a>]
01:06:10 ◼ ► country i mean that is all part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3970">TS</a>]
01:06:12 ◼ ► what's going on here and if i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3972">TS</a>]
01:06:14 ◼ ► writing a you know a 10-page essay in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3974">TS</a>]
01:06:17 ◼ ► literature class in college about any of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3977">TS</a>]
01:06:19 ◼ ► the books on this list I probably picked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3979">TS</a>]
01:06:20 ◼ ► this one because it is rich and there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3980">TS</a>]
01:06:27 ◼ ► did you read this one yes I did that's I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3987">TS</a>]
01:06:31 ◼ ► well if if game was very economical and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3991">TS</a>]
01:06:39 ◼ ► this is i mean i-i thought of this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/3999">TS</a>]
01:06:41 ◼ ► being more like a and all much too great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4001">TS</a>]
01:06:43 ◼ ► literature there's one section I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4003">TS</a>]
01:06:46 ◼ ► like before the fifth chapter i'm like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4006">TS</a>]
01:06:47 ◼ ► saying she quoting a culvers travels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4007">TS</a>]
01:06:52 ◼ ► here because almost all my life I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4012">TS</a>]
01:06:54 ◼ ► read this i've read this somewhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4014">TS</a>]
01:06:56 ◼ ► yeah i was going back and forth between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4016">TS</a>]
01:06:58 ◼ ► gulliver's travels in like candy or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4018">TS</a>]
01:07:00 ◼ ► something I kept thinking of looks like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4020">TS</a>]
01:07:01 ◼ ► that in overall I i really enjoyed it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4021">TS</a>]
01:07:04 ◼ ► but it felt very rich for the length if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4024">TS</a>]
01:07:10 ◼ ► it had been slightly shorter i could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4030">TS</a>]
01:07:12 ◼ ► have digested it better that I loved the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4032">TS</a>]
01:07:15 ◼ ► writing but i felt like i had eaten a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4035">TS</a>]
01:07:18 ◼ ► ten-course meal by the end of the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4038">TS</a>]
01:07:20 ◼ ► out that moment when you get to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4040">TS</a>]
01:07:22 ◼ ► girl's story which one level you've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4042">TS</a>]
01:07:26 ◼ ► leading up to it the whole the whole way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4046">TS</a>]
01:07:28 ◼ ► but I i I've that it kind of lost me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4048">TS</a>]
01:07:31 ◼ ► there because I felt like we were I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4051">TS</a>]
01:07:33 ◼ ► so many levels of nested parentheses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4053">TS</a>]
01:07:35 ◼ ► into this book at that point that I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4055">TS</a>]
01:07:37 ◼ ► couldn't bear to go down another level [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4057">TS</a>]
01:07:39 ◼ ► and and and that was happening at a time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4059">TS</a>]
01:07:43 ◼ ► when actually the main narrative was in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4063">TS</a>]
01:07:46 ◼ ► its most well I mean there's lots of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4066">TS</a>]
01:07:48 ◼ ► really interesting things in this but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4068">TS</a>]
01:07:49 ◼ ► loved how evocative the broken-down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4069">TS</a>]
01:07:52 ◼ ► abandoned castle on the edge of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4072">TS</a>]
01:07:55 ◼ ► known world weathers its it's cold and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4075">TS</a>]
01:07:58 ◼ ► there's nothing but a cold dry desert [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4078">TS</a>]
01:08:00 ◼ ► and like an old lady living in a cave at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4080">TS</a>]
01:08:06 ◼ ► I I loved that feeling that he's got his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4086">TS</a>]
01:08:08 ◼ ► friend who may be dying and they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4088">TS</a>]
01:08:11 ◼ ► have anything to eat and they're in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4091">TS</a>]
01:08:12 ◼ ► opulent but decrepit hunting lodge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4092">TS</a>]
01:08:15 ◼ ► castle breaking up the furniture to stay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4095">TS</a>]
01:08:19 ◼ ► that's so I've been so beautiful and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4099">TS</a>]
01:08:21 ◼ ► evocative and interesting and in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4101">TS</a>]
01:08:24 ◼ ► midst of all that they're sort of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4104">TS</a>]
01:08:25 ◼ ► okay let me tell you a story and its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4105">TS</a>]
01:08:28 ◼ ► back to one of the islands and this girl [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4108">TS</a>]
01:08:30 ◼ ► who we met who is now the ghost that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4110">TS</a>]
01:08:32 ◼ ► haunting him and I don't know something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4112">TS</a>]
01:08:34 ◼ ► about that I just I got I got frustrated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4114">TS</a>]
01:08:36 ◼ ► as a reader that was like I didn't feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4116">TS</a>]
01:08:39 ◼ ► like I was being challenged by her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4119">TS</a>]
01:08:41 ◼ ► narrative at that point I felt like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4121">TS</a>]
01:08:42 ◼ ► was being I don't know whether it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4122">TS</a>]
01:08:44 ◼ ► being taken advantage of or just yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4124">TS</a>]
01:08:46 ◼ ► was being frustrated by that point but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4126">TS</a>]
01:08:49 ◼ ► you're you're even educated at the style [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4129">TS</a>]
01:08:52 ◼ ► that she just takes a step back and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4132">TS</a>]
01:08:57 ◼ ► alright I've hit you with all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4137">TS</a>]
01:08:58 ◼ ► legends that you have all the myths now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4138">TS</a>]
01:09:00 ◼ ► here we go here's something just as good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4140">TS</a>]
01:09:02 ◼ ► just shocking this you know what happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4142">TS</a>]
01:09:05 ◼ ► to this one person and not to be not to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4145">TS</a>]
01:09:07 ◼ ► be too cynical about it but there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4147">TS</a>]
01:09:09 ◼ ► there are a few stories in there that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4149">TS</a>]
01:09:10 ◼ ► read and I thought this is this isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4150">TS</a>]
01:09:13 ◼ ► dolt self-indulgent this is I've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4153">TS</a>]
01:09:15 ◼ ► some interesting world building and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4155">TS</a>]
01:09:17 ◼ ► takes on some of these sort of Legends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4157">TS</a>]
01:09:19 ◼ ► and I'm going to drop them all and show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4159">TS</a>]
01:09:22 ◼ ► goodreads tells me this is 300 pages [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4162">TS</a>]
01:09:24 ◼ ► long I if you had asked me I would've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4164">TS</a>]
01:09:26 ◼ ► said it was like 500 pages long this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4166">TS</a>]
01:09:29 ◼ ► disadvantage because it felt like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4169">TS</a>]
01:09:31 ◼ ► it felt like you know just and again i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4171">TS</a>]
01:09:34 ◼ ► enjoyed some of them but then they kept [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4174">TS</a>]
01:09:36 ◼ ► coming and I i ended up feeling kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4176">TS</a>]
01:09:38 ◼ ► beaten up by the number of depressions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4178">TS</a>]
01:09:40 ◼ ► and and they weren't you know any and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4180">TS</a>]
01:09:45 ◼ ► lot of them weren't that impressive to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4185">TS</a>]
01:09:48 ◼ ► yep tell me that come with the backstory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4188">TS</a>]
01:09:49 ◼ ► of this thing it's like a short story in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4189">TS</a>]
01:09:51 ◼ ► which every sentence contains ape a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4191">TS</a>]
01:09:54 ◼ ► footnote containing another longer story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4194">TS</a>]
01:09:57 ◼ ► explaining all the background of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4197">TS</a>]
01:09:59 ◼ ► sentence it was a little bit like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4199">TS</a>]
01:10:02 ◼ ► while i was just like god it's you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4202">TS</a>]
01:10:04 ◼ ► it was you know and maybe that's my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4204">TS</a>]
01:10:06 ◼ ► feeling is a reader but as a reader i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4206">TS</a>]
01:10:08 ◼ ► felt like it was it was it was too much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4208">TS</a>]
01:10:09 ◼ ► like I really got into it for a while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4209">TS</a>]
01:10:11 ◼ ► and then I sort of soured on a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4211">TS</a>]
01:10:13 ◼ ► bit because because you know it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4213">TS</a>]
01:10:15 ◼ ► certainly intelligent and well written [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4215">TS</a>]
01:10:17 ◼ ► and challenging and interesting all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4217">TS</a>]
01:10:19 ◼ ► those things are true it just it it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4219">TS</a>]
01:10:21 ◼ ► became frustrating to me for the end but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4221">TS</a>]
01:10:23 ◼ ► there are the earth if things in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4223">TS</a>]
01:10:25 ◼ ► that images in this book that i will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4225">TS</a>]
01:10:29 ◼ ► beautiful and evocative an interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4229">TS</a>]
01:10:30 ◼ ► the crazy we didn't even mention the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4230">TS</a>]
01:10:33 ◼ ► Running of the Bulls style religious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4233">TS</a>]
01:10:36 ◼ ► festival that happens getty where he had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4236">TS</a>]
01:10:38 ◼ ► speedy ends up like naked in a pending [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4238">TS</a>]
01:10:41 ◼ ► it's it's a it's a long night for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4241">TS</a>]
01:10:43 ◼ ► big character but it's so beautiful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4243">TS</a>]
01:10:46 ◼ ► beautiful and interesting and how he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4246">TS</a>]
01:10:47 ◼ ► tells the story it's crazy also a first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4247">TS</a>]
01:10:54 ◼ ► yeah it's actually really impressive the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4254">TS</a>]
01:10:57 ◼ ► the number first novels that are also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4257">TS</a>]
01:11:01 ◼ ► really really impressive and then of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4261">TS</a>]
01:11:04 ◼ ► themselves based on what they're trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4264">TS</a>]
01:11:06 ◼ ► do so I mean this and and and like and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4266">TS</a>]
01:11:10 ◼ ► like his book you know they're very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4270">TS</a>]
01:11:11 ◼ ► different types of books but they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4271">TS</a>]
01:11:13 ◼ ► each incredibly ambitious i feel which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4273">TS</a>]
01:11:16 ◼ ► gives something like a brownie point i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4276">TS</a>]
01:11:18 ◼ ► think yeah you can have the excuse of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4278">TS</a>]
01:11:22 ◼ ► well you know my first novel was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4282">TS</a>]
01:11:24 ◼ ► well I've got some examples of other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4284">TS</a>]
01:11:27 ◼ ► great first novels uh is the goldman the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4287">TS</a>]
01:11:30 ◼ ► genie Helen workers first novel to yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4290">TS</a>]
01:11:33 ◼ ► yes if look at that up but singing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4293">TS</a>]
01:11:40 ◼ ► yeah uh-huh so this one is what late its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4300">TS</a>]
01:11:47 ◼ ► 19th century New York you're eighteen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4307">TS</a>]
01:11:49 ◼ ► nineties yeah yeah yeahs late 19th [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4309">TS</a>]
01:11:54 ◼ ► immigrants in this case in addition to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4314">TS</a>]
01:11:57 ◼ ► the Jewish immigrants and the MIT the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4317">TS</a>]
01:12:04 ◼ ► Christians but from from from Syria so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4324">TS</a>]
01:12:09 ◼ ► middle-eastern group of people but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4329">TS</a>]
01:12:11 ◼ ► they're actually mostly Christians that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4331">TS</a>]
01:12:13 ◼ ► are in the story they are all they could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4333">TS</a>]
01:12:16 ◼ ► they come to the new to the new world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4336">TS</a>]
01:12:18 ◼ ► seeking III new life and in and they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4338">TS</a>]
01:12:21 ◼ ► in New York City but the a golem and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4341">TS</a>]
01:12:25 ◼ ► genie also if are immigrants to New York [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4345">TS</a>]
01:12:32 ◼ ► interesting events than the way the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4352">TS</a>]
01:12:35 ◼ ► genie gets put in his not a bottle but a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4355">TS</a>]
01:12:38 ◼ ► lamp is a is told in flashback the Golem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4358">TS</a>]
01:12:42 ◼ ► story is told more straightforwardly in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4362">TS</a>]
01:12:45 ◼ ► the narrative and you know boy when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4365">TS</a>]
01:12:48 ◼ ► these two get together it's going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4368">TS</a>]
01:12:50 ◼ ► sparks flying and yeah and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4370">TS</a>]
01:12:53 ◼ ► surrounded by all sorts of characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4373">TS</a>]
01:12:54 ◼ ► and there's a there's a character who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4374">TS</a>]
01:12:57 ◼ ► creates the goal at the beginning you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4377">TS</a>]
01:12:58 ◼ ► think you're not going to see again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4378">TS</a>]
01:12:59 ◼ ► before you see him again and and anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4379">TS</a>]
01:13:05 ◼ ► that's what this book is about I there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4385">TS</a>]
01:13:10 ◼ ► suffice it to say Scott you told me that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4390">TS</a>]
01:13:14 ◼ ► at one point this was your favorite book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4394">TS</a>]
01:13:18 ◼ ► it continues to be the favorite my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4398">TS</a>]
01:13:19 ◼ ► favorite book that i've had this year i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4399">TS</a>]
01:13:22 ◼ ► don't know i just well a guy i have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4402">TS</a>]
01:13:25 ◼ ► well-known bias towards books set in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4405">TS</a>]
01:13:28 ◼ ► 19th century in New York City yes that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4408">TS</a>]
01:13:29 ◼ ► not so this hits those marks there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4409">TS</a>]
01:13:33 ◼ ► detective sadly if there are detective [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4413">TS</a>]
01:13:36 ◼ ► this may be my favorite book ever that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4416">TS</a>]
01:13:39 ◼ ► there's no detective so said I'm sorry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4419">TS</a>]
01:13:41 ◼ ► Goldman Jeannie detective agency no new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4421">TS</a>]
01:13:44 ◼ ► book can i pre order that is i'll take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4424">TS</a>]
01:13:50 ◼ ► I i really enjoyed this book I mean I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4430">TS</a>]
01:13:53 ◼ ► still there are scenes in the book that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4433">TS</a>]
01:13:55 ◼ ► I still think about every once in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4435">TS</a>]
01:13:57 ◼ ► while like this so the genie is set free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4437">TS</a>]
01:14:00 ◼ ► by a tinsmith and then so basically the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4440">TS</a>]
01:14:05 ◼ ► serviceable tinsmith but he doesn't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4445">TS</a>]
01:14:07 ◼ ► the power to melt metal with his hands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4447">TS</a>]
01:14:10 ◼ ► as you know generally people don't so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4450">TS</a>]
01:14:14 ◼ ► the genie basically says well I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4454">TS</a>]
01:14:16 ◼ ► nothing better to do so i'll help you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4456">TS</a>]
01:14:20 ◼ ► preparing pots of bands of things and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4460">TS</a>]
01:14:22 ◼ ► and kind of doesn't really like it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4462">TS</a>]
01:14:25 ◼ ► then they get a job to make this ceiling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4465">TS</a>]
01:14:28 ◼ ► new piece for an apartment and so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4468">TS</a>]
01:14:33 ◼ ► beautiful map of you know with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4473">TS</a>]
01:14:36 ◼ ► service of the desert where he lived [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4476">TS</a>]
01:14:38 ◼ ► where his secrets are invisible palace [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4478">TS</a>]
01:14:41 ◼ ► is and it's a beautiful piece of artwork [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4481">TS</a>]
01:14:46 ◼ ► apartment building because he's like I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4486">TS</a>]
01:14:48 ◼ ► not paying for this use the whole this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4488">TS</a>]
01:14:50 ◼ ► till and this is like a you know a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4490">TS</a>]
01:14:53 ◼ ► slumlord that I this is a slum why is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4493">TS</a>]
01:14:55 ◼ ► this beautiful piece of art here and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4495">TS</a>]
01:14:57 ◼ ► know but anyway I still think about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4497">TS</a>]
01:14:59 ◼ ► description of that that's in peace [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4499">TS</a>]
01:15:02 ◼ ► every once in awhile yeah you're walking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4502">TS</a>]
01:15:04 ◼ ► to the apartment they look up and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4504">TS</a>]
01:15:07 ◼ ► the sudden snaps into relief and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4507">TS</a>]
01:15:08 ◼ ► like well yes exactly so I mean I just I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4508">TS</a>]
01:15:14 ◼ ► you reminded me of since we're listing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4514">TS</a>]
01:15:17 ◼ ► things that these books remind us of I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4517">TS</a>]
01:15:19 ◼ ► hide it reminds me a little bit of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4519">TS</a>]
01:15:21 ◼ ► Kavalier and clay by michael chabon it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4521">TS</a>]
01:15:24 ◼ ► just in the sense that it was it'sit's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4524">TS</a>]
01:15:26 ◼ ► immigrant stories in New York it's sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4526">TS</a>]
01:15:30 ◼ ► but you know it in the end it's this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4530">TS</a>]
01:15:33 ◼ ► story of immigrants of people coming to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4533">TS</a>]
01:15:37 ◼ ► a new world and being out sort of in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4537">TS</a>]
01:15:40 ◼ ► culture that's inside a different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4540">TS</a>]
01:15:42 ◼ ► culture and mixed with these other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4542">TS</a>]
01:15:44 ◼ ► cultures and how how they all interact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4544">TS</a>]
01:15:46 ◼ ► in a kind of a big it's a big mess and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4546">TS</a>]
01:15:48 ◼ ► they all interact and and push against [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4548">TS</a>]
01:15:50 ◼ ► one another in manhattan and this had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4550">TS</a>]
01:15:54 ◼ ► that same feeling i love the fact that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4554">TS</a>]
01:15:56 ◼ ► the you know that the golden the genie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4556">TS</a>]
01:15:58 ◼ ► both are are immigrants as well kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4558">TS</a>]
01:16:02 ◼ ► immigrants as well what did anybody else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4562">TS</a>]
01:16:05 ◼ ► who read this one want to talk about a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4565">TS</a>]
01:16:07 ◼ ► little bit I why I this is one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4567">TS</a>]
01:16:10 ◼ ► ones that I they worked on today so I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4570">TS</a>]
01:16:11 ◼ ► not quite finished with it but it is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4571">TS</a>]
01:16:14 ◼ ► is a book that i wish i had read earlier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4574">TS</a>]
01:16:16 ◼ ► because as soon as they started reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4576">TS</a>]
01:16:18 ◼ ► it I knew it was going to be dealing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4578">TS</a>]
01:16:19 ◼ ► with stuff that i would be interested in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4579">TS</a>]
01:16:21 ◼ ► because it's not because it's dealing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4581">TS</a>]
01:16:23 ◼ ► with like it's got a golem much as like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4583">TS</a>]
01:16:27 ◼ ► fascinating when the the Golem is sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4587">TS</a>]
01:16:29 ◼ ► of created and then in the immediate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4589">TS</a>]
01:16:30 ◼ ► step that follows after that's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4590">TS</a>]
01:16:32 ◼ ► interesting but I also really love that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4592">TS</a>]
01:16:34 ◼ ► this was a book that was dealing with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4594">TS</a>]
01:16:36 ◼ ► the immigration issue at a time period [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4596">TS</a>]
01:16:38 ◼ ► that's you know well before I was born [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4598">TS</a>]
01:16:42 ◼ ► and before anyone on this podcast was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4602">TS</a>]
01:16:44 ◼ ► born unless somebody here is a vampire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4604">TS</a>]
01:16:46 ◼ ► because it it's interesting to see you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4606">TS</a>]
01:16:50 ◼ ► know that the Ellis Island stuff being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4610">TS</a>]
01:16:52 ◼ ► dealt with in in a what is clearly a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4612">TS</a>]
01:16:55 ◼ ► fantasy novel being dealt with very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4615">TS</a>]
01:16:58 ◼ ► explicitly that there's a really great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4618">TS</a>]
01:17:00 ◼ ► chapter in here where favorite character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4620">TS</a>]
01:17:02 ◼ ► it is where he's sitting there and just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4622">TS</a>]
01:17:04 ◼ ► briefly says that like Ellis Island guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4624">TS</a>]
01:17:06 ◼ ► says you know what your name is weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4626">TS</a>]
01:17:08 ◼ ► and we should just make it American and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4628">TS</a>]
01:17:10 ◼ ► then they changed his name to like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4630">TS</a>]
01:17:12 ◼ ► know that's where the dark rabbi comes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4632">TS</a>]
01:17:14 ◼ ► over right they just the change his name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4634">TS</a>]
01:17:15 ◼ ► because his name is too hard for them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4635">TS</a>]
01:17:18 ◼ ► yeah but that actually happened and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4638">TS</a>]
01:17:19 ◼ ► like this really fascinating like moment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4639">TS</a>]
01:17:22 ◼ ► in this book we're getting this very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4642">TS</a>]
01:17:24 ◼ ► real experience but it's mediated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4644">TS</a>]
01:17:26 ◼ ► through what is going to be a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4646">TS</a>]
01:17:27 ◼ ► fantastic element of the novel and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4647">TS</a>]
01:17:31 ◼ ► obviously is dealing with in terms of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4651">TS</a>]
01:17:33 ◼ ► the column and the the genie in their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4653">TS</a>]
01:17:36 ◼ ► own different here from ways and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4656">TS</a>]
01:17:38 ◼ ► sort of attempts to kind of get you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4658">TS</a>]
01:17:40 ◼ ► could almost say they're like allegories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4660">TS</a>]
01:17:42 ◼ ► for sort of the immigrant experience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4662">TS</a>]
01:17:43 ◼ ► but they also operate on their own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4663">TS</a>]
01:17:46 ◼ ► because there are other immigrants that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4666">TS</a>]
01:17:47 ◼ ► are actually trying to integrate into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4667">TS</a>]
01:17:49 ◼ ► and you know 19th century American [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4669">TS</a>]
01:17:52 ◼ ► culture they both have their friends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4672">TS</a>]
01:17:54 ◼ ► that are that are also part of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4674">TS</a>]
01:17:55 ◼ ► immigrant experience right whether the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4675">TS</a>]
01:17:58 ◼ ► neighborhood or it's the the the rabbi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4678">TS</a>]
01:18:01 ◼ ► and his son and the and the people at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4681">TS</a>]
01:18:06 ◼ ► yeah yeah or nephew right right yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4686">TS</a>]
01:18:11 ◼ ► fascinating i think is it as a book that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4691">TS</a>]
01:18:13 ◼ ► deals with some really really heavy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4693">TS</a>]
01:18:14 ◼ ► subjects but as it in a really beautiful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4694">TS</a>]
01:18:16 ◼ ► way I'm even the relationship without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4696">TS</a>]
01:18:19 ◼ ► between the column and the genie is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4699">TS</a>]
01:18:20 ◼ ► a really kind of beautiful thing there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4700">TS</a>]
01:18:22 ◼ ► some brilliant chapters where they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4702">TS</a>]
01:18:24 ◼ ► sort of interacting and there's one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4704">TS</a>]
01:18:26 ◼ ► moment when the column and a genie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4706">TS</a>]
01:18:28 ◼ ► acknowledge that they don't actually get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4708">TS</a>]
01:18:31 ◼ ► interesting to them that they have these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4711">TS</a>]
01:18:33 ◼ ► arguments then if they just sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4713">TS</a>]
01:18:35 ◼ ► dealt with what would be normal everyday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4715">TS</a>]
01:18:37 ◼ ► happy conversations and i love that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4717">TS</a>]
01:18:40 ◼ ► moment when they have that that when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4720">TS</a>]
01:18:42 ◼ ► they realize like yeah we have like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4722">TS</a>]
01:18:43 ◼ ► true motorist relationship but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4723">TS</a>]
01:18:47 ◼ ► the coaches are out to the genie coaxes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4727">TS</a>]
01:18:50 ◼ ► the Golem out to go for a walk basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4730">TS</a>]
01:18:53 ◼ ► and they walk the streets of you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4733">TS</a>]
01:18:54 ◼ ► you're eighteen nineties New York I in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4734">TS</a>]
01:18:59 ◼ ► the dark in the middle of the night and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4739">TS</a>]
01:19:02 ◼ ► that's why i love i love all of that to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4742">TS</a>]
01:19:05 ◼ ► the imagery of them doing it and neither [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4745">TS</a>]
01:19:07 ◼ ► neither of them sleep so you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4747">TS</a>]
01:19:09 ◼ ► they've got a lot of free time and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4749">TS</a>]
01:19:11 ◼ ► neither of them are going to be mug [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4751">TS</a>]
01:19:12 ◼ ► definitely not that's definitely not so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4752">TS</a>]
01:19:16 ◼ ► i liked i really like that that that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4756">TS</a>]
01:19:18 ◼ ► the images of that and then there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4758">TS</a>]
01:19:20 ◼ ► pivotal scene that happens in the park [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4760">TS</a>]
01:19:22 ◼ ► and fountain and you know and there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4762">TS</a>]
01:19:26 ◼ ► some interesting things with the genie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4766">TS</a>]
01:19:28 ◼ ► before he meets the Golem where he meets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4768">TS</a>]
01:19:29 ◼ ► a young lady of means in the city and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4769">TS</a>]
01:19:32 ◼ ► and and how he interacts with her and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4772">TS</a>]
01:19:36 ◼ ► and boy does he interact with her anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4776">TS</a>]
01:19:40 ◼ ► uh home and she has a little of fire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4780">TS</a>]
01:19:43 ◼ ► baby later anyway how as you do this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4783">TS</a>]
01:19:47 ◼ ► well if you're gonna play around with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4787">TS</a>]
01:19:51 ◼ ► he's the stuff he's a fire elemental [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4791">TS</a>]
01:19:55 ◼ ► yeah I I I like this I like this book so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4795">TS</a>]
01:20:00 ◼ ► much I can say it i just it is you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4800">TS</a>]
01:20:05 ◼ ► the two characters very interesting the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4805">TS</a>]
01:20:08 ◼ ► interesting when they meet in their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4808">TS</a>]
01:20:09 ◼ ► relationships great quite honestly if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4809">TS</a>]
01:20:11 ◼ ► there hadn't been the plot motivation of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4811">TS</a>]
01:20:13 ◼ ► the you know essentially the creator of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4813">TS</a>]
01:20:18 ◼ ► discovers that you know he's a very very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4818">TS</a>]
01:20:21 ◼ ► bad man he discovers that she's there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4821">TS</a>]
01:20:23 ◼ ► and he's trying to unlock secrets and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4823">TS</a>]
01:20:25 ◼ ► turns out that you know his story is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4825">TS</a>]
01:20:27 ◼ ► much more complicated than we were led [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4827">TS</a>]
01:20:28 ◼ ► to believe and that's all fine it makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4828">TS</a>]
01:20:30 ◼ ► it makes for some jeopardy and makes the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4830">TS</a>]
01:20:32 ◼ ► plot move at the end if it didn't exist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4832">TS</a>]
01:20:34 ◼ ► in the book I would not like it any less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4834">TS</a>]
01:20:38 ◼ ► i think if there was not the bad guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4838">TS</a>]
01:20:40 ◼ ► who's going around tryna I mean just the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4840">TS</a>]
01:20:42 ◼ ► truth the life of the people like like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4842">TS</a>]
01:20:45 ◼ ► her and her friend from the bakery who's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4845">TS</a>]
01:20:49 ◼ ► being misled by a gentleman who she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4849">TS</a>]
01:20:52 ◼ ► thinks is going to marry her but in fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4852">TS</a>]
01:20:54 ◼ ► he's a CAD stuff like that was I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4854">TS</a>]
01:20:58 ◼ ► that and how a golem reacts to that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4858">TS</a>]
01:21:01 ◼ ► thought was perfectly interesting i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4861">TS</a>]
01:21:02 ◼ ► actually you know and I like the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4862">TS</a>]
01:21:04 ◼ ► that the Golem so the whole point of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4864">TS</a>]
01:21:06 ◼ ► goals that she can senses other people's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4866">TS</a>]
01:21:08 ◼ ► desires and wants to fulfill them and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4868">TS</a>]
01:21:12 ◼ ► she's working in this bakery and she can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4872">TS</a>]
01:21:14 ◼ ► sense you know that you come in and your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4874">TS</a>]
01:21:16 ◼ ► friends and you want you know a rye [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4876">TS</a>]
01:21:18 ◼ ► bread seedless rye bread so she knows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4878">TS</a>]
01:21:20 ◼ ► that already and she has it ready but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4880">TS</a>]
01:21:22 ◼ ► she can't do that she doesn't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4882">TS</a>]
01:21:24 ◼ ► see anyone just give it to you because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4884">TS</a>]
01:21:26 ◼ ► you can't expose that she's not a real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4886">TS</a>]
01:21:27 ◼ ► person so she has to wait for you to ask [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4887">TS</a>]
01:21:31 ◼ ► mistakes because she's working at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4891">TS</a>]
01:21:33 ◼ ► bakery making you know roles and things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4893">TS</a>]
01:21:35 ◼ ► every single roll looks exactly the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4895">TS</a>]
01:21:37 ◼ ► and she's doing things like four times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4897">TS</a>]
01:21:39 ◼ ► faster than everyone else so that she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4899">TS</a>]
01:21:40 ◼ ► realizes oh I better start making some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4900">TS</a>]
01:21:43 ◼ ► mistakes and slowing down because people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4903">TS</a>]
01:21:45 ◼ ► figure out something's up but you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4905">TS</a>]
01:21:47 ◼ ► resist doing things like if she knows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4907">TS</a>]
01:21:48 ◼ ► that somebody's coming in they're sad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4908">TS</a>]
01:21:50 ◼ ► and they would be happy if they have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4910">TS</a>]
01:21:51 ◼ ► cinnamon roll recommend Hill are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4911">TS</a>]
01:21:54 ◼ ► maybe you should have a cinnamon roll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4914">TS</a>]
01:21:55 ◼ ► just finding ways to interact with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4915">TS</a>]
01:21:57 ◼ ► humans and not expose herself me this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4917">TS</a>]
01:21:59 ◼ ► might be my favorite book of the year so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4919">TS</a>]
01:22:01 ◼ ► far as well it not it not just for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4921">TS</a>]
01:22:04 ◼ ► main characters but two of the secondary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4924">TS</a>]
01:22:08 ◼ ► first off the the good rabbi we want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4928">TS</a>]
01:22:12 ◼ ► yes everybody yes especially you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4932">TS</a>]
01:22:14 ◼ ► he's just trying so hard to set a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4934">TS</a>]
01:22:19 ◼ ► example and teacher and get her ready to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4939">TS</a>]
01:22:21 ◼ ► be independent because he knows you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4941">TS</a>]
01:22:24 ◼ ► he's got a limited amount of time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4944">TS</a>]
01:22:26 ◼ ► yeah and his relationship with his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4946">TS</a>]
01:22:28 ◼ ► nephew was wonderful and the other thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4948">TS</a>]
01:22:32 ◼ ► that really moved me was the the woman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4952">TS</a>]
01:22:34 ◼ ► of means you know her her attempt to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4954">TS</a>]
01:22:38 ◼ ► figure out what's going on with her and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4958">TS</a>]
01:22:40 ◼ ► then what happens in Paris especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4960">TS</a>]
01:22:44 ◼ ► that little love when you've seen where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4964">TS</a>]
01:22:46 ◼ ► the fire baby departs us especially you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4966">TS</a>]
01:22:53 ◼ ► know not to get too personal but it as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4973">TS</a>]
01:22:55 ◼ ► as a parent who lost a child that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4975">TS</a>]
01:22:57 ◼ ► very moving to me so yeah yeah it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4977">TS</a>]
01:23:01 ◼ ► and again like I said about some of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4981">TS</a>]
01:23:04 ◼ ► other books here characters that didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4984">TS</a>]
01:23:07 ◼ ► have to be that rich it you know and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4987">TS</a>]
01:23:09 ◼ ► would have been easy for a writer to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4989">TS</a>]
01:23:11 ◼ ► like well you know central casting it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4991">TS</a>]
01:23:13 ◼ ► a rabbi he's helpful but move on with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4993">TS</a>]
01:23:15 ◼ ► the story or or this is a woman that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4995">TS</a>]
01:23:17 ◼ ► GV seduces and move on with the story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4997">TS</a>]
01:23:19 ◼ ► and boy nobody gets short shrift like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/4999">TS</a>]
01:23:22 ◼ ► that the these characters are all they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5002">TS</a>]
01:23:25 ◼ ► get there they get their moments and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5005">TS</a>]
01:23:26 ◼ ► they are they go beyond what is required [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5006">TS</a>]
01:23:28 ◼ ► sort of just move the story along you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5008">TS</a>]
01:23:31 ◼ ► get a lot more detail about the men in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5011">TS</a>]
01:23:33 ◼ ► fact that the the girl you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5013">TS</a>]
01:23:36 ◼ ► woman who who the genie has his affair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5016">TS</a>]
01:23:43 ◼ ► with his fling with his his fire baby [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5023">TS</a>]
01:23:45 ◼ ► makings with you know she comes back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5025">TS</a>]
01:23:47 ◼ ► around as important as the story goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5027">TS</a>]
01:23:49 ◼ ► along too so it's uh it's really you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5029">TS</a>]
01:23:52 ◼ ► know it's really nicely done and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5032">TS</a>]
01:23:54 ◼ ► not the kind of book that i would i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5034">TS</a>]
01:23:56 ◼ ► would that would leap off the shelf as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5036">TS</a>]
01:23:58 ◼ ► as a somebody who's not an aficionado [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5038">TS</a>]
01:24:00 ◼ ► for 19th century New York detective [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5040">TS</a>]
01:24:02 ◼ ► stories like Scott so foolish arm I this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5042">TS</a>]
01:24:07 ◼ ► one didn't jump out at me and yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5047">TS</a>]
01:24:10 ◼ ► boy it's really good it's just it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5050">TS</a>]
01:24:12 ◼ ► fun and the characters are good and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5052">TS</a>]
01:24:16 ◼ ► it their unexpected things that happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5056">TS</a>]
01:24:18 ◼ ► and you know it's yeah it's III don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5058">TS</a>]
01:24:23 ◼ ► know what more to say it's surprising [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5063">TS</a>]
01:24:25 ◼ ► and and it's just good all the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5065">TS</a>]
01:24:27 ◼ ► through so good job only wacker another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5067">TS</a>]
01:24:39 ◼ ► comfortable is very own Scott McNulty as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5079">TS</a>]
01:24:42 ◼ ► he branches out onto his new podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5082">TS</a>]
01:24:46 ◼ ► random track from the people who brought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5086">TS</a>]
01:24:48 ◼ ► you the uncomfortable mostly Scott [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5088">TS</a>]
01:24:51 ◼ ► although i'm on the first episode random [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5091">TS</a>]
01:24:53 ◼ ► track is a podcast where we watch a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5093">TS</a>]
01:24:55 ◼ ► randomly selected episode of Star Trek [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5095">TS</a>]
01:24:57 ◼ ► Scott and a guest check it out it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5097">TS</a>]
01:25:03 ◼ ► incomparable dot-com / random Trek [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5103">TS</a>]
01:25:07 ◼ ► that's the incomparable dot-com / random [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5107">TS</a>]
01:25:15 ◼ ► so that's that's eight books we have not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5115">TS</a>]
01:25:21 ◼ ► Scott talked about one of himself which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5121">TS</a>]
01:25:25 ◼ ► that's fine and I was like Scott's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5125">TS</a>]
01:25:30 ◼ ► somebody hydrated uh I want to go around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5130">TS</a>]
01:25:33 ◼ ► before we go and sort ask you of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5133">TS</a>]
01:25:36 ◼ ► other books here that you read what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5136">TS</a>]
01:25:40 ◼ ► if you had to pick or favorite what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5140">TS</a>]
01:25:43 ◼ ► know if you can't pick and you can you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5143">TS</a>]
01:25:46 ◼ ► can whip out and stay I like these two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5146">TS</a>]
01:25:48 ◼ ► or three but if you can if you had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5148">TS</a>]
01:25:51 ◼ ► vote for the nebula what would be your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5151">TS</a>]
01:25:56 ◼ ► Fred what do you think well it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5156">TS</a>]
01:25:58 ◼ ► have gone with the column in the genie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5158">TS</a>]
01:26:02 ◼ ► no hands down that was the the top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5162">TS</a>]
01:26:05 ◼ ► alright Paul what do you think Angela [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5165">TS</a>]
01:26:07 ◼ ► justice ancillary justice people like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5167">TS</a>]
01:26:11 ◼ ► you are giving netbook lots of awards so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5171">TS</a>]
01:26:13 ◼ ► yeah I ok I guess L Sean oh this is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5173">TS</a>]
01:26:19 ◼ ► fair you know I know why would you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5179">TS</a>]
01:26:22 ◼ ► this to me i know i'm doing it to myself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5182">TS</a>]
01:26:23 ◼ ► to I don't know what I'm even gonna say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5183">TS</a>]
01:26:25 ◼ ► that was gone haha man it is no are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5185">TS</a>]
01:26:31 ◼ ► torn between a few i'm torn between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5191">TS</a>]
01:26:33 ◼ ► three yeah because I answer Justice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5193">TS</a>]
01:26:37 ◼ ► stranger no laundry and the column and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5197">TS</a>]
01:26:39 ◼ ► the gene you're all i think really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5199">TS</a>]
01:26:41 ◼ ► incredible novels for very different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5201">TS</a>]
01:26:43 ◼ ► reasons I don't know I maybe I'd lean a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5203">TS</a>]
01:26:47 ◼ ► little bit more towards the latter two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5207">TS</a>]
01:26:48 ◼ ► just in terms of the out of the gate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5208">TS</a>]
01:26:51 ◼ ► quality because I think ancillary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5211">TS</a>]
01:26:53 ◼ ► justice in some cases a little uneven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5213">TS</a>]
01:26:54 ◼ ► but I understand why it got picked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5214">TS</a>]
01:26:56 ◼ ► because it makes total sense that gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5216">TS</a>]
01:27:01 ◼ ► yeah I mean I i well let's just say the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5221">TS</a>]
01:27:04 ◼ ► golem in the genie around but like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5224">TS</a>]
01:27:07 ◼ ► like 11 billion of a percentage point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5227">TS</a>]
01:27:10 ◼ ► about so you know I could I could read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5230">TS</a>]
01:27:13 ◼ ► the others again and then it could swing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5233">TS</a>]
01:27:16 ◼ ► sure that we don't feel bad about myself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5236">TS</a>]
01:27:17 ◼ ► later I am I am torn between government [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5237">TS</a>]
01:27:21 ◼ ► Jeannie ancillary justice and the ocean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5241">TS</a>]
01:27:23 ◼ ► at the end of the lane actually those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5243">TS</a>]
01:27:25 ◼ ► three and and you know and i think we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5245">TS</a>]
01:27:28 ◼ ► beside ourselves would be up there with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5248">TS</a>]
01:27:31 ◼ ► it for me other than the fact like i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5251">TS</a>]
01:27:33 ◼ ► said i'm going to disqualify it only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5253">TS</a>]
01:27:34 ◼ ► because it's not really science fiction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5254">TS</a>]
01:27:36 ◼ ► but I like I loved it too but those are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5256">TS</a>]
01:27:39 ◼ ► the other three I have a hard time with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5259">TS</a>]
01:27:40 ◼ ► picking among all of them and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5260">TS</a>]
01:27:43 ◼ ► if you ask me today i might go back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5263">TS</a>]
01:27:46 ◼ ► the one that i read the longest time ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5266">TS</a>]
01:27:47 ◼ ► which is the ocean at the end of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5267">TS</a>]
01:27:49 ◼ ► I you know it's I think it's easy there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5269">TS</a>]
01:27:51 ◼ ► a way we talk about to first novels and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5271">TS</a>]
01:27:54 ◼ ► neil gaiman right and it's easy to just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5274">TS</a>]
01:27:56 ◼ ► be like look it's me okay man he's fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5276">TS</a>]
01:27:58 ◼ ► he doesn't need to win anymore awards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5278">TS</a>]
01:28:00 ◼ ► everybody knows who he is and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5280">TS</a>]
01:28:02 ◼ ► true but boy that's a really really good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5282">TS</a>]
01:28:05 ◼ ► book i really enjoyed it but at the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5285">TS</a>]
01:28:08 ◼ ► time you know Chancellor justices is a a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5288">TS</a>]
01:28:11 ◼ ► really good example of a science modern [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5291">TS</a>]
01:28:14 ◼ ► science fiction novel and you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5294">TS</a>]
01:28:19 ◼ ► a good book but it also is a very much a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5299">TS</a>]
01:28:23 ◼ ► science fiction novel in the tradition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5303">TS</a>]
01:28:25 ◼ ► of the genre so at the end of the day i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5305">TS</a>]
01:28:29 ◼ ► would i would have to flip a coin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5309">TS</a>]
01:28:31 ◼ ► between neil gaiman and and telling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5311">TS</a>]
01:28:33 ◼ ► workers come in the genie is just depend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5313">TS</a>]
01:28:35 ◼ ► on how i was feeling that day and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5315">TS</a>]
01:28:37 ◼ ► would be tough for me too because all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5317">TS</a>]
01:28:39 ◼ ► three of those books are really good and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5319">TS</a>]
01:28:41 ◼ ► that's it's nice to have such good books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5321">TS</a>]
01:28:43 ◼ ► on a list especially I gotta say this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5323">TS</a>]
01:28:47 ◼ ► a pretty good list scott and i have read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5327">TS</a>]
01:28:49 ◼ ► the hugo nominees the last few years and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5329">TS</a>]
01:28:51 ◼ ► that has not always been a pleasant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5331">TS</a>]
01:28:53 ◼ ► experience some of those books are not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5333">TS</a>]
01:28:56 ◼ ► books we liked at all and i had no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5336">TS</a>]
01:28:59 ◼ ► experience like that with these books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5339">TS</a>]
01:29:01 ◼ ► no I liked all of these books yeah yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5341">TS</a>]
01:29:04 ◼ ► these these books all have things to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5344">TS</a>]
01:29:06 ◼ ► record even stranger laundry which I did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5346">TS</a>]
01:29:08 ◼ ► not love because of the reasons I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5348">TS</a>]
01:29:10 ◼ ► enumerated i can't i can't deny it being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5350">TS</a>]
01:29:14 ◼ ► well written and I see why people would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5354">TS</a>]
01:29:16 ◼ ► really like it because it is a it is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5356">TS</a>]
01:29:18 ◼ ► very carefully constructed high-quality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5358">TS</a>]
01:29:20 ◼ ► well-written book even though I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5360">TS</a>]
01:29:22 ◼ ► love it and that that's yeah that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5362">TS</a>]
01:29:25 ◼ ► pretty good crop yeah imagine if we had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5365">TS</a>]
01:29:27 ◼ ► to actually vote on this in the hugo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5367">TS</a>]
01:29:31 ◼ ► yeah that would be like there be people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5371">TS</a>]
01:29:33 ◼ ► fighting each other just be a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5373">TS</a>]
01:29:35 ◼ ► terrifying experience with all those all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5375">TS</a>]
01:29:38 ◼ ► those good things I said about you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5378">TS</a>]
01:29:40 ◼ ► and and then we also about the red first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5380">TS</a>]
01:29:42 ◼ ► light of the seven books I probably read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5382">TS</a>]
01:29:45 ◼ ► it I probably rank at seventh and it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5385">TS</a>]
01:29:49 ◼ ► it's not a bad look at all and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5389">TS</a>]
01:29:52 ◼ ► there's Hills which i did read some who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5392">TS</a>]
01:29:54 ◼ ► knows it's a question mark where we go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5394">TS</a>]
01:29:56 ◼ ► good job nebula I mean look at things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5396">TS</a>]
01:29:59 ◼ ► Scott didn't answer the question though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5399">TS</a>]
01:30:01 ◼ ► Scott oh yeah Jason doesn't care about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5401">TS</a>]
01:30:02 ◼ ► my opinion I do because Scott this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5402">TS</a>]
01:30:04 ◼ ► the big question is answered justice was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5404">TS</a>]
01:30:06 ◼ ► your favorite book of last year in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5406">TS</a>]
01:30:07 ◼ ► goldman the genie is your favorite book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5407">TS</a>]
01:30:10 ◼ ► you must choose i must choose well I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5410">TS</a>]
01:30:14 ◼ ► think if I were depends on how i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5414">TS</a>]
01:30:18 ◼ ► going to vote a like if the contractor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5418">TS</a>]
01:30:21 ◼ ► to put around my vote if i was going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5421">TS</a>]
01:30:22 ◼ ► vote for the book that i think would win [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5422">TS</a>]
01:30:24 ◼ ► although now I know which one win and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5424">TS</a>]
01:30:27 ◼ ► would vote for Chancellor justice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5427">TS</a>]
01:30:29 ◼ ► because i think could pick it did win [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5429">TS</a>]
01:30:32 ◼ ► just because of what we what everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5432">TS</a>]
01:30:34 ◼ ► has said before it's kind of like it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5434">TS</a>]
01:30:35 ◼ ► bold kind of ambitious science fiction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5435">TS</a>]
01:30:39 ◼ ► me d science fiction book that is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5439">TS</a>]
01:30:42 ◼ ► like yes you should give this book a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5442">TS</a>]
01:30:44 ◼ ► science fiction award it deserves our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5444">TS</a>]
01:30:46 ◼ ► one award with a spaceship on that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5446">TS</a>]
01:30:49 ◼ ► not exactly trophy with a spaceship yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5449">TS</a>]
01:30:51 ◼ ► whereas i love the gold in the genie so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5451">TS</a>]
01:30:53 ◼ ► if I were just voting for the book that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5453">TS</a>]
01:30:55 ◼ ► I would pick the goal in the genie but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5455">TS</a>]
01:30:57 ◼ ► it feels weird to give that book a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5457">TS</a>]
01:31:00 ◼ ► science fiction or even though i know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5460">TS</a>]
01:31:01 ◼ ► this is science fiction and fantasy when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5461">TS</a>]
01:31:04 ◼ ► answer justice is in the mix I wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5464">TS</a>]
01:31:07 ◼ ► be outraged if any of these books have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5467">TS</a>]
01:31:09 ◼ ► 1i would have question maybe fire with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5469">TS</a>]
01:31:11 ◼ ► fire but i still like fire with fire so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5471">TS</a>]
01:31:14 ◼ ► of any of them what I think we're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5474">TS</a>]
01:31:16 ◼ ► to find pic whereas you said past hugo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5476">TS</a>]
01:31:19 ◼ ► nominees I would have been outraged [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5479">TS</a>]
01:31:21 ◼ ► friend books 1 alright so I Goldman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5481">TS</a>]
01:31:26 ◼ ► Goldman the genie is the one that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5486">TS</a>]
01:31:28 ◼ ► would probably pick if you had to pick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5488">TS</a>]
01:31:34 ◼ ► yeah but not the but it's like by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5494">TS</a>]
01:31:39 ◼ ► everybody agrees how good ancillary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5499">TS</a>]
01:31:43 ◼ ► read The Golem the genie i would i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5503">TS</a>]
01:31:45 ◼ ► make I would make this unanimous wraps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5505">TS</a>]
01:31:49 ◼ ► yeah but get public calls say something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5509">TS</a>]
01:31:52 ◼ ► really cool about answer Justice real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5512">TS</a>]
01:31:54 ◼ ► quick that one little thing the the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5514">TS</a>]
01:31:57 ◼ ► incredible use of language and pronouns [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5517">TS</a>]
01:32:00 ◼ ► and genders and explore exploring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5520">TS</a>]
01:32:02 ◼ ► exploring that in in a science-fiction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5522">TS</a>]
01:32:05 ◼ ► space opera setting in a way that few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5525">TS</a>]
01:32:10 ◼ ► ok answer justice gets my vote again how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5530">TS</a>]
01:32:16 ◼ ► I i think you know we said this on our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5536">TS</a>]
01:32:19 ◼ ► podcast we did about it I i think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5539">TS</a>]
01:32:21 ◼ ► gets kind of / praise for the gender [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5541">TS</a>]
01:32:22 ◼ ► issues they're there but I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5542">TS</a>]
01:32:24 ◼ ► what I said at the time was I don't feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5544">TS</a>]
01:32:26 ◼ ► like that's a book about gender so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5546">TS</a>]
01:32:28 ◼ ► as it's a book about identity and and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5548">TS</a>]
01:32:30 ◼ ► although the gender thing is really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5550">TS</a>]
01:32:32 ◼ ► interesting what i think is fantastic is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5552">TS</a>]
01:32:35 ◼ ► that it's about identity on a broad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5555">TS</a>]
01:32:40 ◼ ► spaceship with hundreds of ancillary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5560">TS</a>]
01:32:44 ◼ ► and then if you're collapse down into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5564">TS</a>]
01:32:47 ◼ ► if you are an emperor who can speak [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5567">TS</a>]
01:32:50 ◼ ► duplicates of yourself and now there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5570">TS</a>]
01:32:52 ◼ ► you force yourself into different bodies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5572">TS</a>]
01:32:54 ◼ ► who who's the real you is there one who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5574">TS</a>]
01:32:56 ◼ ► are you I mean there's so many different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5576">TS</a>]
01:32:57 ◼ ► a gender is one part of identity or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5577">TS</a>]
01:33:03 ◼ ► important a part of the identity but but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5583">TS</a>]
01:33:06 ◼ ► that's what this book is about it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5586">TS</a>]
01:33:09 ◼ ► what is identity and we talked about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5589">TS</a>]
01:33:12 ◼ ► ambitious first novel broad sci-fi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5592">TS</a>]
01:33:15 ◼ ► canvas and this topic of identity of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5595">TS</a>]
01:33:18 ◼ ► core of it just like I amazing she has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5598">TS</a>]
01:33:21 ◼ ► written a few stories before one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5601">TS</a>]
01:33:23 ◼ ► which was never gonna be late as i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5603">TS</a>]
01:33:25 ◼ ► yes so yes this is not our first rodeo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5605">TS</a>]
01:33:28 ◼ ► but this is the first long rodeo and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5608">TS</a>]
01:33:30 ◼ ► it's a bad it's an interesting ambitious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5610">TS</a>]
01:33:32 ◼ ► and she she nailed it so you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5612">TS</a>]
01:33:34 ◼ ► there's no shame and in voted for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5614">TS</a>]
01:33:36 ◼ ► ancillary justice i think we all give up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5616">TS</a>]
01:33:38 ◼ ► fraction of our vote to it if we could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5618">TS</a>]
01:33:40 ◼ ► write just split it and it's imaginary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5620">TS</a>]
01:33:45 ◼ ► and just remember the Hugo's have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5625">TS</a>]
01:33:47 ◼ ► preferential voting system so yeah now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5627">TS</a>]
01:33:50 ◼ ► when i wrote down my choices here I did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5630">TS</a>]
01:33:51 ◼ ► actually write numbers next to them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5631">TS</a>]
01:33:53 ◼ ► figure like you guys I didn't write down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5633">TS</a>]
01:33:55 ◼ ► no award because I'm you know they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5635">TS</a>]
01:33:59 ◼ ► that's where grant was nothing we could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5639">TS</a>]
01:34:01 ◼ ► we get there is no mere grad so we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5641">TS</a>]
01:34:02 ◼ ► didn't have to do that you got any way I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5642">TS</a>]
01:34:09 ◼ ► I already checked out from the library [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5649">TS</a>]
01:34:10 ◼ ► because it was not made available in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5650">TS</a>]
01:34:12 ◼ ► hugo packet so i just checked it up in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5652">TS</a>]
01:34:14 ◼ ► the library and i'm reading parasite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5654">TS</a>]
01:34:16 ◼ ► right now i'll be dipping into that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5656">TS</a>]
01:34:18 ◼ ► because you gotta read all the human [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5658">TS</a>]
01:34:19 ◼ ► omni's to that's another podcast you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5659">TS</a>]
01:34:22 ◼ ► guys I it was really fun to bring in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5662">TS</a>]
01:34:24 ◼ ► bringing the ringers the science-fiction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5664">TS</a>]
01:34:26 ◼ ► ringers for many other podcasts who and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5666">TS</a>]
01:34:28 ◼ ► and get more voices to read these uh all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5668">TS</a>]
01:34:32 ◼ ► these these many many many books it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5672">TS</a>]
01:34:35 ◼ ► a lot of fun to talk about books for for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5675">TS</a>]
01:34:38 ◼ ► an overnight with you it was it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5678">TS</a>]
01:34:39 ◼ ► pleasure we did snatch one earring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5679">TS</a>]
01:34:41 ◼ ► comparable people for one of our podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5681">TS</a>]
01:34:44 ◼ ► our podcast so I guess we're returning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5684">TS</a>]
01:34:46 ◼ ► it was America yeah yeah I I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5686">TS</a>]
01:34:49 ◼ ► technically she's she's verities and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5689">TS</a>]
01:34:52 ◼ ► already she's not here a lot yeah we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5692">TS</a>]
01:34:53 ◼ ► what we're trying to do you know where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5693">TS</a>]
01:34:55 ◼ ► we're she's on extended loan to us by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5695">TS</a>]
01:34:58 ◼ ► capital but it's it's nice i like i like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5698">TS</a>]
01:35:01 ◼ ► the mixing of all the people all over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5701">TS</a>]
01:35:03 ◼ ► the place so it's it's I think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5703">TS</a>]
01:35:05 ◼ ► really cool tab people and that's one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5705">TS</a>]
01:35:06 ◼ ► reason I wanted you guys on is is it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5706">TS</a>]
01:35:09 ◼ ► kind of fun to let the people who listen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5709">TS</a>]
01:35:11 ◼ ► to this show here you guys and then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5711">TS</a>]
01:35:13 ◼ ► know they can they can follow you back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5713">TS</a>]
01:35:14 ◼ ► to these many other podcast that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5714">TS</a>]
01:35:17 ◼ ► you're on and and again i have to point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5717">TS</a>]
01:35:19 ◼ ► out the hugo nominated skippy and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5719">TS</a>]
01:35:21 ◼ ► fantasy and Hugo nominated SF signal so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5721">TS</a>]
01:35:24 ◼ ► not bad pretty nice and the america of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5724">TS</a>]
01:35:27 ◼ ► course for the hugo nominated Verity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5727">TS</a>]
01:35:29 ◼ ► great category podcasts can't get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5729">TS</a>]
01:35:31 ◼ ► great category our favorite and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5731">TS</a>]
01:35:35 ◼ ► incomparable Hugo nominated adjacent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5735">TS</a>]
01:35:37 ◼ ► haha cool the more people we invite on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5737">TS</a>]
01:35:41 ◼ ► her humor nominees eventually you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5741">TS</a>]
01:35:43 ◼ ► we will be as if we were nominated for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5743">TS</a>]
01:35:46 ◼ ► that i'm just gonna click onto my all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5746">TS</a>]
01:35:50 ◼ ► it just like that's very that's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5750">TS</a>]
01:35:52 ◼ ► kind of you i i i believe I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5752">TS</a>]
01:35:54 ◼ ► allowed to nominate myself so i did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5754">TS</a>]
01:35:55 ◼ ► yesterday I can I know anything okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5755">TS</a>]
01:35:59 ◼ ► I nominated both of those podcasts the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5759">TS</a>]
01:36:02 ◼ ► SF signal the skiff and fancy and also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5762">TS</a>]
01:36:04 ◼ ► Verity so who says my nominees don't get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5764">TS</a>]
01:36:06 ◼ ► picked up three of them did a podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5766">TS</a>]
01:36:09 ◼ ► category all right so thank you fred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5769">TS</a>]
01:36:12 ◼ ► kiss you've been here from the as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5772">TS</a>]
01:36:14 ◼ ► listener from the beginning it was nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5774">TS</a>]
01:36:16 ◼ ► to have you on and people can hear you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5776">TS</a>]
01:36:19 ◼ ► SF signal and the three horsemen correct [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5779">TS</a>]
01:36:22 ◼ ► that's correct mr. alright I a pleasure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5782">TS</a>]
01:36:28 ◼ ► I appreciate it Palmer many podcasts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5788">TS</a>]
01:36:31 ◼ ► including skippy and fantasy and SF [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5791">TS</a>]
01:36:33 ◼ ► signal any others that you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5793">TS</a>]
01:36:34 ◼ ► mention any other plugs you would like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5794">TS</a>]
01:36:36 ◼ ► yeah I I think I did all my plugs and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5796">TS</a>]
01:36:39 ◼ ► skipping fancy is my major home and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5799">TS</a>]
01:36:42 ◼ ► that's a single they let me on now and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5802">TS</a>]
01:36:43 ◼ ► again and maybe they will get on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5803">TS</a>]
01:36:45 ◼ ► horn again someday if the Fred cannot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5805">TS</a>]
01:36:48 ◼ ► unbarred the door for me will say very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5808">TS</a>]
01:36:51 ◼ ► nice very nice and Sean Duke skippy and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5811">TS</a>]
01:36:54 ◼ ► fanti really fun podcast I've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5814">TS</a>]
01:36:56 ◼ ► enjoying listening you've got a whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5816">TS</a>]
01:36:58 ◼ ► bunch of different episodes too i was in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5818">TS</a>]
01:36:59 ◼ ► your Babylon 5 watch episodes which were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5819">TS</a>]
01:37:02 ◼ ► yeah just lots of good stuff there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5822">TS</a>]
01:37:05 ◼ ► anything else you'd like to plug your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5825">TS</a>]
01:37:07 ◼ ► going to London we just don't know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5827">TS</a>]
01:37:10 ◼ ► yeah i don't know what i'm eating that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5830">TS</a>]
01:37:11 ◼ ► i'll be in that country somehow i'll be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5831">TS</a>]
01:37:14 ◼ ► arriving on boat in a crate nice i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5834">TS</a>]
01:37:18 ◼ ► double-decker bus most likely yeah yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5838">TS</a>]
01:37:21 ◼ ► it's a good way to get around but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5841">TS</a>]
01:37:23 ◼ ► guess you just say my personal blog [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5843">TS</a>]
01:37:25 ◼ ► which is the world in a satin bag and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5845">TS</a>]
01:37:27 ◼ ► the website is just w is B dot blog [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5847">TS</a>]
01:37:29 ◼ ► spot.com great i will put those links in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5849">TS</a>]
01:37:31 ◼ ► the show notes to for people who want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5851">TS</a>]
01:37:33 ◼ ► check that out and can't break things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5853">TS</a>]
01:37:36 ◼ ► down when they're listening to a podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5856">TS</a>]
01:37:37 ◼ ► because that you know you're probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5857">TS</a>]
01:37:38 ◼ ► driving when you're listening to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5858">TS</a>]
01:37:40 ◼ ► and don't stop to write things down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5860">TS</a>]
01:37:41 ◼ ► because you'll crash and die that would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5861">TS</a>]
01:37:44 ◼ ► be bad well if you stopped and yeah you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5864">TS</a>]
01:37:46 ◼ ► can stop and write it down that's true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5866">TS</a>]
01:37:47 ◼ ► just will not not like suddenly in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5867">TS</a>]
01:37:49 ◼ ► middle of the street I guess is what I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5869">TS</a>]
01:37:51 ◼ ► saying why did you stop sir well I'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5871">TS</a>]
01:37:53 ◼ ► write down the name of a blog that until [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5873">TS</a>]
01:37:57 ◼ ► I and Scott we don't think i'm not going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5877">TS</a>]
01:37:58 ◼ ► to forget you where where can people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5878">TS</a>]
01:38:02 ◼ ► we're just listen to the inner voice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5882">TS</a>]
01:38:04 ◼ ► inside of you and that would be you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5884">TS</a>]
01:38:07 ◼ ► that's me obvious yeah that's where i'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5887">TS</a>]
01:38:08 ◼ ► be there when whenever there's a man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5888">TS</a>]
01:38:11 ◼ ► reading science fiction novel whenever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5891">TS</a>]
01:38:13 ◼ ► there's a lady reading science fiction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5893">TS</a>]
01:38:15 ◼ ► novel writing a first novel and getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5895">TS</a>]
01:38:18 ◼ ► I'll be there watch out his life now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5898">TS</a>]
01:38:23 ◼ ► luckily no scary i was trying to do what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5903">TS</a>]
01:38:26 ◼ ► what is that is that a shadow no no i'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5906">TS</a>]
01:38:29 ◼ ► be there that some groups rap is that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5909">TS</a>]
01:38:31 ◼ ► yeah that's what I was going for their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5911">TS</a>]
01:38:35 ◼ ► for the uncomfortable I've been jason l [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5915">TS</a>]
01:38:39 ◼ ► thank you for listening I hope you found [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5919">TS</a>]
01:38:41 ◼ ► some really good book suggestions that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5921">TS</a>]
01:38:43 ◼ ► you can read and stay tuned we'll be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5923">TS</a>]
01:38:44 ◼ ► back in a month or two with a hugo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5924">TS</a>]
01:38:47 ◼ ► nominees podcasts one if it if everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5927">TS</a>]
01:38:50 ◼ ► reads the books I know Scott and I will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbGQevs/5930">TS</a>]