Roderick on the Line

Ep. 201: "Cowboy Hat Boss"


00:00:00   hello hi John [TS]

00:00:07   hi Merlin has gone good yeah i was just [TS]

00:00:14   watching the music video for in excesses [TS]

00:00:17   mediate who which one the MTV Music [TS]

00:00:22   Video Award for something this best [TS]

00:00:25   video back in the old times i don't know [TS]

00:00:29   if you remember mediate the song but [TS]

00:00:31   it's the one where where they just say [TS]

00:00:36   words that rhyme with mediate how / like [TS]

00:00:39   all along it doesn't have a course and [TS]

00:00:43   the video is the hem standing in some [TS]

00:00:46   kind of industrial area doing the Bob [TS]

00:00:48   Dylan don't look back and say it sounds [TS]

00:00:51   like a subterranean we didn't start the [TS]

00:00:53   fire textual that's exactly right and he [TS]

00:00:55   just said but they actually do they [TS]

00:00:57   actually cop the like word on a piece of [TS]

00:01:01   paper flip thing that's fresh and that [TS]

00:01:06   room and they want an award and I [TS]

00:01:08   remember and this is you know this is [TS]

00:01:09   the era of course where they were also [TS]

00:01:11   wearing like jeans to cheat [TS]

00:01:13   strategically rip knees her and little [TS]

00:01:17   round glasses and and the sixties we're [TS]

00:01:24   gonna uh-huh [TS]

00:01:29   it was so awful and you know this is [TS]

00:01:32   what passed for this was what passed for [TS]

00:01:34   like like culture when we were we were [TS]

00:01:38   just we were at the dawn of our lives [TS]

00:01:39   were sitting there just like what's [TS]

00:01:41   gonna happen to us what amazing things [TS]

00:01:43   going to happen to us [TS]

00:01:45   this was the best part of it can I i [TS]

00:01:47   mean i don't watch the video while [TS]

00:01:49   recording kind i'm going to guess kind [TS]

00:01:51   of get some words [TS]

00:01:52   okay go ahead Watergate no I don't think [TS]

00:01:54   so gr8 m8 she's great no let me do you [TS]

00:01:59   want me to read them to you sure [TS]

00:02:00   hallucinate [TS]

00:02:02   k segregate because they make this a [TS]

00:02:05   great gate spelled desegregate who [TS]

00:02:08   mediates right that's title song mediate [TS]

00:02:12   alleviate mhm and here's that I was what [TS]

00:02:16   was I remember the first time I heard [TS]

00:02:17   the song i was listening I was like [TS]

00:02:19   alright alright segregating behind that [TS]

00:02:22   mediate and then the fifth thing it says [TS]

00:02:25   the fifth lyric is try not eight try not [TS]

00:02:28   to hate try not to try not to hate that [TS]

00:02:31   doesn't doesn't really rhyme with [TS]

00:02:33   mediate given up kind of early on that [TS]

00:02:35   1i think I mean it's like try not to [TS]

00:02:37   hate but not try not to hate cannot hate [TS]

00:02:40   love your mate [TS]

00:02:42   don't suffocate on your own hate all [TS]

00:02:46   right we've already used hate in try not [TS]

00:02:47   to hate [TS]

00:02:48   don't suffocate on your own hey time for [TS]

00:02:51   this for this to work it has to be a [TS]

00:02:54   like okay we'll take x-rays I need to [TS]

00:02:56   rhyme with me out like you gotta build a [TS]

00:02:58   little story out of that [TS]

00:03:00   yeah yeah and later I don't want to be [TS]

00:03:01   repeating a lot of stuff in the first [TS]

00:03:03   act like that like its storytelling [TS]

00:03:04   designate your love as fate what what [TS]

00:03:08   the fuck does that mean we'll see that's [TS]

00:03:10   the Australian shit right there natured [TS]

00:03:12   love is faid Richard Nixon Watergate [TS]

00:03:14   he's great on a plane oneworld state now [TS]

00:03:18   it's getting a little baby is getting [TS]

00:03:20   real now that as human freight the [TS]

00:03:26   number eight [TS]

00:03:29   okay it goes downhill from there i was i [TS]

00:03:33   was hoping what the reason i got started [TS]

00:03:36   listening to the song as I was hoping [TS]

00:03:38   that it said innovate sure because come [TS]

00:03:41   on i'm looking for every opportunity I [TS]

00:03:44   can to get in on this innovation sphere [TS]

00:03:47   yeah and I wanted to say innovate so [TS]

00:03:50   that i could repurpose the song as a [TS]

00:03:52   kind of as a kind of pain to innovation [TS]

00:03:58   oh this is not good appreciate fabricate [TS]

00:04:01   emulate the truth dilate yeah like [TS]

00:04:04   pretty Kate has sex ornate what now [TS]

00:04:08   devastate appreciate depreciate [TS]

00:04:12   fabricate emulate the truth dilate yeah [TS]

00:04:14   everybody starts to repeat because these [TS]

00:04:16   Peaks it feels like he's he said it all [TS]

00:04:20   libera to liberate liberate liberate to [TS]

00:04:23   annihilate atomic fate [TS]

00:04:24   no but it's a little bit gets a little [TS]

00:04:26   bit of the portion measure current is [TS]

00:04:29   today's headlines [TS]

00:04:30   yeah but but but but no innovate in all [TS]

00:04:35   it is easy designate your love John [TS]

00:04:38   what's the message of the song is it is [TS]

00:04:42   it is it one of those like our right now [TS]

00:04:45   Van Halen time songs where it's just it [TS]

00:04:47   feels more like a right here right now [TS]

00:04:49   is it supposed to be like shit is real [TS]

00:04:51   this is happening [TS]

00:04:52   yeah that's right that's why I think [TS]

00:04:53   that's exactly right it's it-it-it its [TS]

00:04:56   political without actually saying [TS]

00:04:58   anything about what should be different [TS]

00:05:00   let alone what already is there [TS]

00:05:01   yeah it touches on some things [TS]

00:05:02   desegregation it touches on one one [TS]

00:05:06   world government which i'm not sure they [TS]

00:05:07   fully understood what they were saying [TS]

00:05:09   gravitate the earth sound wait its [TS]

00:05:11   there's a lot of pro sex talk and [TS]

00:05:13   radiate we all rotate and I don't know [TS]

00:05:16   whether that was 1998 he meant or at 98 [TS]

00:05:20   miles per second overhead 98 degrees on [TS]

00:05:24   that this got a second pass John I think [TS]

00:05:26   this is this is a metric pressure [TS]

00:05:28   yeah well guilt debate the edge serrate [TS]

00:05:31   a better rate the youth irate see it's [TS]

00:05:35   got irate youth in there so it did it [TS]

00:05:37   but i think it was a time when you could [TS]

00:05:39   just see it a couple years ago I don't [TS]

00:05:42   know if you remember jonathan coulton [TS]

00:05:43   and I made a a christmas album idea we [TS]

00:05:45   have your argument and oh you're one of [TS]

00:05:48   the few ornaments that didn't break in [TS]

00:05:49   shipping about I without the box without [TS]

00:05:51   puts things in it that nice huh [TS]

00:05:54   but a we needed a Hanukkah song alright [TS]

00:05:58   sure and so is this is this is that did [TS]

00:06:01   the one truly great Hanukkah song [TS]

00:06:03   yeah the one truly great Hanukkah song [TS]

00:06:05   other than a dreidel dreidel dreidel is [TS]

00:06:08   which is a Hanukkah song right now I [TS]

00:06:11   know I know [TS]

00:06:17   it's a I we wrote wikipedia Hanukkah [TS]

00:06:24   which was me reading the wikipedia entry [TS]

00:06:26   for hanukkah over a funky Jam and I [TS]

00:06:31   thought in the spirit of INXS is mediate [TS]

00:06:34   this was going to be a this could be a [TS]

00:06:35   smash hit [TS]

00:06:36   uh-huh and and like people accuse me of [TS]

00:06:42   phoned it in on that song that's the [TS]

00:06:44   joke [TS]

00:06:45   yeah but also i spent a lot of time [TS]

00:06:50   learning how to pronounce those biblical [TS]

00:06:52   era it's not like in a holdup in browser [TS]

00:06:55   in the studio and i started reading you [TS]

00:06:57   have to do some tell music scholarship i [TS]

00:06:59   did i had to move it and and so I'm a [TS]

00:07:02   little mad actually the kind you know [TS]

00:07:04   that in excess could get I mean they [TS]

00:07:06   have a they have a million-and-a-half [TS]

00:07:08   use of this of this song and that look [TS]

00:07:11   it doesn't even look like I'm just [TS]

00:07:13   looking at the thumbnail that it's in [TS]

00:07:14   color [TS]

00:07:15   he's on the wrong side of the screen it [TS]

00:07:17   doesn't he doesn't look like [TS]

00:07:18   subterranean homesick blues external [TS]

00:07:20   don't pay that and and they walk out [TS]

00:07:23   there did look at various denim jean and [TS]

00:07:26   various like you know you remember the [TS]

00:07:28   band world party now heís got Carla [TS]

00:07:30   Wallin timer glasses got Carl wall and [TS]

00:07:33   Rollins Ballinger falling on hammer [TS]

00:07:35   while your hammer said from tomorrow I [TS]

00:07:40   don't want to say on this ship of fools [TS]

00:07:43   is great i love the waterboys John are [TS]

00:07:47   using the waterboys that's the same guy [TS]

00:07:49   from the waterboys not the same time [TS]

00:07:51   Mike Scott the main guy fucks Comrade [TS]

00:07:54   Stalin said they become too westernized [TS]

00:07:56   that that's Mike Scott yeah you that the [TS]

00:08:00   other guy from the waterboys is the guy [TS]

00:08:02   from world party uh-huh [TS]

00:08:04   I had no idea that the excess classes [TS]

00:08:06   whoa yeah my mom wanted more LOL kdj [TS]

00:08:10   roll party just came out of nowhere I [TS]

00:08:12   just thought they were just like you [TS]

00:08:14   know like world water boys were very [TS]

00:08:17   important they had important music MMA [TS]

00:08:19   their music was very important [TS]

00:08:21   it's also many seeds yeah I think hold [TS]

00:08:25   the moon is one of the great songs to [TS]

00:08:26   wonderful song i saw the crash [TS]

00:08:29   sent you know there's a lot of jingle [TS]

00:08:31   jangle in that dont le zie called kala [TS]

00:08:34   Wallin my mother is iucn bang on the [TS]

00:08:37   keyboard that video i Goti please bang [TS]

00:08:39   on the keyboard knows huh you see the o [TS]

00:08:43   the moon now you at the image i sent you [TS]

00:08:47   well then let me see your informed [TS]

00:08:49   consent on skype but you have to login [TS]

00:08:53   I don't see that may present you're not [TS]

00:08:55   suggesting his papers i'm looking [TS]

00:08:57   through my papers I don't see any images [TS]

00:08:59   you sent me a sexy on the text [TS]

00:09:01   Oh texting stop sending things in skype [TS]

00:09:04   because it wants you to login even [TS]

00:09:05   though you're already using skype so i [TS]

00:09:06   stopped sending things to you and Skye [TS]

00:09:08   does this here [TS]

00:09:09   yeah WTF begin looking out on the big [TS]

00:09:10   screen I'm oh my goodness I'm so proud [TS]

00:09:15   of my daughter for this struggle with a [TS]

00:09:17   big award my daughter did every stitch [TS]

00:09:20   of this herself [TS]

00:09:20   yeah except for one important part that [TS]

00:09:22   I wanted cuteness the one pic did did [TS]

00:09:27   she didn't also by the black electrical [TS]

00:09:29   tape or whatever your shoulders my [TS]

00:09:31   gorilla tape I let her use son now but [TS]

00:09:34   this is ok so she killed it with this on [TS]

00:09:35   my god facts about arrow pointing to [TS]

00:09:38   Amelia Earhart when she was when she was [TS]

00:09:41   a teen she cut her hair inch by inch so [TS]

00:09:43   her mom didn't notice so much i was [TS]

00:09:46   looking at is a large poster board up [TS]

00:09:49   for her Amelia Earhart you have to do a [TS]

00:09:50   project on somebody that's important to [TS]

00:09:52   you and so she didn't Amelia Earhart and [TS]

00:09:55   so I helped her and I'll help you find [TS]

00:09:56   some photos and stuff like that but I [TS]

00:09:58   also i like her handwriting very much [TS]

00:10:01   but did you do appreciate their just a [TS]

00:10:02   slightly right of Center which but she [TS]

00:10:04   taped on the page is it a I've no I'm [TS]

00:10:09   not just the first first pitch [TS]

00:10:11   Amelia Arizona wikipedia oh yeah i know [TS]

00:10:14   i did see that that was right out of my [TS]

00:10:16   pocket I is my report [TS]

00:10:19   yeah I mean she did some original [TS]

00:10:22   scholarship we watch documentary she [TS]

00:10:24   drew clouds she true what's the name of [TS]

00:10:26   that island that are the island should [TS]

00:10:28   brought us a call the name of the [TS]

00:10:30   rikki-tikki-tavi rikki-tikki-tavi the [TS]

00:10:32   island hawaii that looks like a steak [TS]

00:10:34   that's a very small island as a hard [TS]

00:10:36   target to hit stick island hard target [TS]

00:10:38   but so so I see this I walk in [TS]

00:10:40   and I'm like oh my god you did [TS]

00:10:42   everything on this except the letters [TS]

00:10:43   mommy helped with the letters and she's [TS]

00:10:44   like now she did the letters to the [TS]

00:10:46   prettiest used to one is an l think [TS]

00:10:48   they're great [TS]

00:10:49   is this a nice report it's nice but what [TS]

00:10:51   are you gonna do about that the fact [TS]

00:10:52   that that the the page is just a copy [TS]

00:10:55   from well now if you go and read you [TS]

00:10:59   know Amelia are here so this is her [TS]

00:11:01   report part she always liked to quote [TS]

00:11:03   unquote boy stuff when she was a kid she [TS]

00:11:05   and the neighborhood kids made a roller [TS]

00:11:06   coaster and center and she would do I [TS]

00:11:08   wish I I don't even I said don't correct [TS]

00:11:10   the spelling this is perfect put this on [TS]

00:11:11   I love it but I do it's funny because I [TS]

00:11:13   can 88 i always forget about 21 printing [TS]

00:11:17   and I do print I forget two things I [TS]

00:11:19   forget about comments and forget about [TS]

00:11:21   footnotes so I go to print a recipe and [TS]

00:11:24   I think oh no problem I can see this is [TS]

00:11:26   like what its gonna be 34 pages i forget [TS]

00:11:28   about the comments so also it just [TS]

00:11:31   starts printing and print dress case [TS]

00:11:33   they forgot about footnotes so I printed [TS]

00:11:35   out the 58 pages of amelia earhart's [TS]

00:11:38   wikipedia entry just so we could refer [TS]

00:11:39   to in fact check [TS]

00:11:42   no comments or footnotes comments or [TS]

00:11:45   foot the kind of footnote I suppose [TS]

00:11:47   yeah i don't i don't print it's one of [TS]

00:11:50   those things you should know about me i [TS]

00:11:52   didn't need to print but the print now I [TS]

00:11:54   don't print I don't fax I don't I don't [TS]

00:11:57   print sign and write that Bob I sell [TS]

00:12:01   anything that I don't sprinkle like I [TS]

00:12:03   don't staple i don't i knows i can't [TS]

00:12:06   figure it out tonight so i just wanna [TS]

00:12:07   hang with your daughter huh [TS]

00:12:09   I we want yeah you know it's funny you [TS]

00:12:11   know we watched like literally yesterday [TS]

00:12:13   i'll tell you what we watch later today [TS]

00:12:15   we watch sad sweet three we will know we [TS]

00:12:18   watched I heard this better than it [TS]

00:12:19   seems we watch sad sweetheart of the [TS]

00:12:21   rodeo featuring a young John Roderick [TS]

00:12:23   mando you did not we see my pivot there [TS]

00:12:26   are pivoting on any sky [TS]

00:12:28   yeah I don't have a very very fun video [TS]

00:12:30   it's a fun video I feel like if you [TS]

00:12:33   watch the set sweetheart of the rodeo [TS]

00:12:34   video you will feel if you're following [TS]

00:12:37   along the narrative at all [TS]

00:12:40   you're going to notice right in the sort [TS]

00:12:42   of center of the heart of the second [TS]

00:12:43   part of the the film the film experience [TS]

00:12:46   there's a you know and this music video [TS]

00:12:49   costs are you ready $500,000 wow it [TS]

00:12:56   looks expect another thing that sucks [TS]

00:12:58   about the copy that's up is really kind [TS]

00:13:00   of crappy quality i remember i watch [TS]

00:13:02   that from the first time I was aware of [TS]

00:13:03   you and aware of harvey danger and your [TS]

00:13:05   relationship now let's talk i love that [TS]

00:13:07   i thought was a great video that's a lot [TS]

00:13:08   of money [TS]

00:13:09   it's a lot of money with a friend in [TS]

00:13:10   London was that Leonardo recoupable [TS]

00:13:12   revocable but i'm sure it was at the [TS]

00:13:14   very tail end of a time when you would [TS]

00:13:16   spend 500 thousand dollars on the a [TS]

00:13:20   music video [TS]

00:13:21   wow you hire her a Hollywood actress to [TS]

00:13:25   be in it [TS]

00:13:25   hollywood actress in it and you know and [TS]

00:13:27   the guy that was making the video right [TS]

00:13:29   it was that like that was his year he [TS]

00:13:31   was that was getting was getting paid [TS]

00:13:33   nobody was getting paid [TS]

00:13:34   yeah i think i paid em but right at the [TS]

00:13:38   center of the film the narrative of [TS]

00:13:42   course [TS]

00:13:43   spoiler alert is a woman whose [TS]

00:13:45   daydreaming about having a bit different [TS]

00:13:48   better more interesting like the one she [TS]

00:13:50   has inches fantasizing they slowly [TS]

00:13:52   introduce these elements that are little [TS]

00:13:54   magically real were like more and more [TS]

00:13:56   like she starts hallucinating things [TS]

00:13:58   that about Cowboys that are taking place [TS]

00:14:00   in her office space we actually entered [TS]

00:14:03   everything starting to get rodeoed right [TS]

00:14:06   rodeo it out and so Ione Skye current [TS]

00:14:09   wife of benleah the Australian guitar [TS]

00:14:12   player currently am and and daughter i [TS]

00:14:15   don't know if you knew this Donovan to [TS]

00:14:17   your friends with on Facebook [TS]

00:14:18   that's right one I'm and friends with [TS]

00:14:21   Ben and Ione although i haven't seen her [TS]

00:14:22   in a long time not since she tied me up [TS]

00:14:24   in this music video yeah but halfway to [TS]

00:14:27   get tied up in a lot of videos we [TS]

00:14:28   watched blue diamonds after you get a [TS]

00:14:29   complete a nice to get tied up in that [TS]

00:14:31   video actually the more I think about it [TS]

00:14:33   I'm that should have been a theme [TS]

00:14:35   running through all my videos and now [TS]

00:14:36   i'm super embarrassed that I didn't [TS]

00:14:38   think about 15 years depressive there [TS]

00:14:40   was I could have just been let every [TS]

00:14:42   video I'm tied up that would've made my [TS]

00:14:44   videos better because I would have been [TS]

00:14:46   fucking dancing around anyway have fun [TS]

00:14:50   to do right at the heart of the film [TS]

00:14:52   there's a moment when [TS]

00:14:54   she opens the door to her boss's office [TS]

00:14:57   and she's walking in to deliver some [TS]

00:15:00   papers to her boss she opens the door [TS]

00:15:04   but instead of her boss's office [TS]

00:15:06   it's a long dirt walk across a rodeo [TS]

00:15:10   field and her boss is sitting at his [TS]

00:15:12   desk wearing a cowboy hat and she she [TS]

00:15:18   makes the walk and puts the papers on [TS]

00:15:22   his desk and then there's the switches [TS]

00:15:25   the scene switches or something that's [TS]

00:15:27   that's that's key moment in establishing [TS]

00:15:30   the character of the boss [TS]

00:15:32   mmm the boss is me I am the boss and if [TS]

00:15:37   you watch the video very closely you'll [TS]

00:15:39   never walk that I never got that see her [TS]

00:15:40   walk across the field [TS]

00:15:42   why would you want a short sleeve shirt [TS]

00:15:43   for the boss because cowboy cowboy boss [TS]

00:15:46   when you tied up the end your cookie [TS]

00:15:48   work for NASA well so this is the beers [TS]

00:15:51   the best the problem right you don't [TS]

00:15:52   make a connection between the between [TS]

00:15:55   cowboy boss in the middle of the film [TS]

00:15:57   and the person getting tied up at the [TS]

00:15:59   end the guy getting tied up with the [TS]

00:16:01   engine seems like a co-worker i I've [TS]

00:16:03   seen this since dozen times I've never [TS]

00:16:05   made that connection so there I am are [TS]

00:16:07   you in the scene with the cowboy hat as [TS]

00:16:09   the boss I am the cowboy hat boss how [TS]

00:16:12   much you would never know it because the [TS]

00:16:14   shot was made from like 80 feet away and [TS]

00:16:17   associate she walks across the field to [TS]

00:16:19   put your papers on the desk the boss is [TS]

00:16:21   sitting there with his pad on that's me [TS]

00:16:23   i'm sitting there I spent an entire day [TS]

00:16:25   sitting in that field for that to second [TS]

00:16:28   shot and i said at the time you know [TS]

00:16:31   like I'm not a guy that's going to sit [TS]

00:16:32   around a music video shoot and not offer [TS]

00:16:34   a few suggestions i said hey I think you [TS]

00:16:37   want one close up shot on the boss and [TS]

00:16:41   her putting the papers down on his desk [TS]

00:16:43   to establish what's happening here [TS]

00:16:44   because this is this the this is this [TS]

00:16:47   gonna be call back later you're gonna [TS]

00:16:49   want it to be clear you are tying up at [TS]

00:16:52   the end you can really see your face at [TS]

00:16:53   the end either it does not read as John [TS]

00:16:56   Roderick because that's what they call [TS]

00:16:58   that well with the little three-point I [TS]

00:16:59   what's that called hot not hogtied where [TS]

00:17:01   they call that [TS]

00:17:02   yeah Hawk time yeah but like when you [TS]

00:17:04   tie the calves like three lives together [TS]

00:17:06   sometime [TS]

00:17:07   it doesn't read as you it does not read [TS]

00:17:09   his cowboy hat boss em and they didn't [TS]

00:17:12   take your note on that the guy who was [TS]

00:17:14   making music videos about it was about [TS]

00:17:16   11 hours older than I was [TS]

00:17:19   he had it all figured out is big-time [TS]

00:17:23   Hollywood music video director getting [TS]

00:17:25   paid $500,000 and I was the keyboard [TS]

00:17:27   player in the band and so no nobody took [TS]

00:17:31   my note and then the video came out it [TS]

00:17:33   was like hey good job [TS]

00:17:35   it doesn't make there's no story here [TS]

00:17:36   you had a story now it's just a series [TS]

00:17:39   of collect it's just a bunch of [TS]

00:17:41   collected images all piled on top of [TS]

00:17:43   each other there's no that's different [TS]

00:17:44   that is a different that is a different [TS]

00:17:46   video because that is a story that is [TS]

00:17:47   that she traps at the end rather than [TS]

00:17:49   just singing like she's deranged exactly [TS]

00:17:54   right because that became real [TS]

00:17:56   if she's just tying up some co-worker [TS]

00:17:59   who stand in front of a copy machine [TS]

00:18:00   then she's a lunatic it's only an intern [TS]

00:18:02   like she's tying up the intern [TS]

00:18:04   yeah and this video is a tragedy mm [TS]

00:18:06   whereas if you had established the boss [TS]

00:18:09   character then yes this video is like a [TS]

00:18:12   revenge fantasy she's she is the [TS]

00:18:15   triumphant hero so also i mean like not [TS]

00:18:19   live underground you know when i hear i [TS]

00:18:21   know i hear you that's Robert recoupable [TS]

00:18:23   also you know there's a great tradition [TS]

00:18:26   whether you're talking about an eighties [TS]

00:18:28   movie or knees video or many other [TS]

00:18:31   eighties things there's like the the [TS]

00:18:33   mean boss not just talking 925 I'm [TS]

00:18:35   talking about like the kind of like who [TS]

00:18:37   the Dean who eventually jumps in the [TS]

00:18:38   pool like that even work in warmer like [TS]

00:18:41   you've got to establish that you've got [TS]

00:18:42   to show her being oppressed by the sky [TS]

00:18:44   that if there's anyone who is the [TS]

00:18:46   antagonist I it if it exists it's either [TS]

00:18:50   her reality or maybe her boyfriend [TS]

00:18:52   because her boyfriend you know she sit [TS]

00:18:55   on the couch with em he's pretty dull [TS]

00:18:58   you know that the Mike Squires is in [TS]

00:19:01   that music video and he gets a nice [TS]

00:19:03   antagonistic moment how many takes did [TS]

00:19:04   it take to get Mike Squires sorry just [TS]

00:19:08   thinking of all the flashy yeah [TS]

00:19:10   he gets in there uh with his little like [TS]

00:19:13   he gives her a covetous glances nice as [TS]

00:19:17   their as they pass in the copy room he [TS]

00:19:21   is a co-worker well lascivious coworker [TS]

00:19:24   and looks at her salaciously and so he [TS]

00:19:27   got a little star turn Mike Squires nice [TS]

00:19:30   but I was just a you know I could you [TS]

00:19:34   could have had a paper doll [TS]

00:19:35   yeah in place of me and that a shame [TS]

00:19:37   it's just it's a damn shame that you [TS]

00:19:39   have to really scrubbable yeah sure you [TS]

00:19:42   even see me [TS]

00:19:43   I think we started our daughter little [TS]

00:19:45   because the scene where it's sean my [TS]

00:19:46   favorite part of the song my favorite [TS]

00:19:48   part of the video [TS]

00:19:49   Sean you know Sean God he's such a [TS]

00:19:51   performer he cannot be performing he's [TS]

00:19:52   so big and he's install a system the [TS]

00:19:55   catchy and as one [TS]

00:19:56   my wife and I we haven't listened to [TS]

00:19:58   this song on purpose because we don't [TS]

00:20:00   like it because it hasn't come up in a [TS]

00:20:01   while but as one we both go the Marlboro [TS]

00:20:04   Man that of cancer was a rocket [TS]

00:20:07   scientist when he was alive haha my [TS]

00:20:09   daughter looked at us like we were out [TS]

00:20:11   of our money on labor he's got a lot of [TS]

00:20:15   flavor what's a lot of spin on the ball [TS]

00:20:17   and then we watched you guys this is the [TS]

00:20:20   weirdest lineup will align up a few guys [TS]

00:20:23   and you're having some lady was for [TS]

00:20:24   Seattle TV show but it was weird fucking [TS]

00:20:27   lineup [TS]

00:20:28   it was you sean michael on drums and [TS]

00:20:31   handsome guy on base [TS]

00:20:33   yeah I don't know what now when is that [TS]

00:20:34   from so accomplished wires and Eric why [TS]

00:20:37   wasn't this is all this is the redox [TS]

00:20:40   it's the reader huh that y know Eric [TS]

00:20:42   okay yeah it's the 2016 10 2013 I never [TS]

00:20:48   remember his name but he was always nice [TS]

00:20:49   and very handsome he's very very and so [TS]

00:20:52   tell me his name [TS]

00:20:53   are you sure you don't remember [TS]

00:20:57   One Bowl as any state of your house [TS]

00:20:59   yes-ish your turn [TS]

00:21:03   pert bro Bobby know it's his name is [TS]

00:21:10   Andy fits [TS]

00:21:12   he's one of the great musicians of [TS]

00:21:14   Seattle and if it has played on a lot of [TS]

00:21:16   Records he's a calm extremely is calm [TS]

00:21:20   and calming he's a wonderful guy he's [TS]

00:21:23   going to back out of a hard time right [TS]

00:21:24   now [TS]

00:21:24   oh no i'm sorry i'm meeting him later [TS]

00:21:26   today as a matter of all please tell me [TS]

00:21:28   i said hi [TS]

00:21:28   well here's the prayer i guess so i have [TS]

00:21:30   a problem no problem is [TS]

00:21:34   last night i got an email from a friend [TS]

00:21:40   you may know you may have heard of [TS]

00:21:44   George Meyer founder of the simpsons oh [TS]

00:21:48   yeah right he said great [TS]

00:21:50   no no that's the other founder of the [TS]

00:21:52   simpsons and he passed away about a [TS]

00:21:53   tragedy [TS]

00:21:54   George was his friend but also one of [TS]

00:21:56   the one of the developers of the [TS]

00:21:57   simpsons yes right Kiki ever sent me a [TS]

00:22:00   nice email you said you want to go to a [TS]

00:22:01   baseball game i said yeah i do want to [TS]

00:22:04   go to a baseball game he said great any [TS]

00:22:07   day this week [TS]

00:22:08   good and I said you know what any day [TS]

00:22:10   this week i will go to a baseball game [TS]

00:22:12   and he said great I'll get right back to [TS]

00:22:15   you wanna take a look at the schedule [TS]

00:22:17   and I said awesome and then I was very [TS]

00:22:21   excited i was going to a baseball game [TS]

00:22:22   with George nothing wrong with that [TS]

00:22:24   walked around for a few hours good [TS]

00:22:26   thinking about the baseball game with [TS]

00:22:27   your job is going to go to sometime this [TS]

00:22:29   week then i get a message from my friend [TS]

00:22:32   Andy fits who's one of my favorite [TS]

00:22:34   musicians and lovely man he said go [TS]

00:22:37   through a little bit of thing we want to [TS]

00:22:40   get together for some something [TS]

00:22:42   something and i was like of course I [TS]

00:22:45   want to be there for my friend Andy want [TS]

00:22:47   to meetup want to get maybe a bowl of [TS]

00:22:49   fun talk about some stuff throw it [TS]

00:22:52   around two guys mano-a-mano so I was [TS]

00:22:56   like well let's get together tomorrow it [TS]

00:22:58   seems like we should you know the the [TS]

00:23:00   the conversation should just get [TS]

00:23:03   commenced upon right yeah somebody's [TS]

00:23:07   like having a time stand long I'm scared [TS]

00:23:10   where this is [TS]

00:23:11   on immediately I get an email from [TS]

00:23:14   Georgetown you want to the baseball game [TS]

00:23:15   tomorrow night I'm like but i just made [TS]

00:23:18   a plan [TS]

00:23:19   I didn't have anything to do all week [TS]

00:23:21   this is how it always happens i just [TS]

00:23:23   made a plan to go hang out with my [TS]

00:23:24   friend who's gone through a patch and [TS]

00:23:27   now that's the exact time that George [TS]

00:23:29   wants to go to the baseball game and now [TS]

00:23:32   oh no right because i don't want to you [TS]

00:23:35   know you don't want to say no to anybody [TS]

00:23:36   you don't want to go you don't want to [TS]

00:23:38   call your friends having hard times they [TS]

00:23:39   can you postpone your hard time one it [TS]

00:23:41   sounds like the reason you're going to [TS]

00:23:42   get him sounds like you're trying to get [TS]

00:23:44   out of it [TS]

00:23:45   yeah right all my friends have a hard [TS]

00:23:48   time I told him I had two go hand you're [TS]

00:23:49   just gonna be like I thought you said [TS]

00:23:50   you free always said you can't bring [TS]

00:23:52   yourself to say my kids sick like that's [TS]

00:23:54   yeah right [TS]

00:23:54   oh you have it yeah I got some friend of [TS]

00:23:57   Mines whatever I can why didn't you just [TS]

00:23:58   say you didn't want to go to the [TS]

00:23:59   baseball game so then the second so then [TS]

00:24:02   he offers me the second option which is [TS]

00:24:05   friday night which is the beginning [TS]

00:24:08   memorial day and then and that is I [TS]

00:24:11   didn't even think like that friday was [TS]

00:24:14   in play i was like i'm available all [TS]

00:24:15   every day this week went by which i [TS]

00:24:17   meant monday tuesday wednesday thursday [TS]

00:24:19   because you know friday memorial day [TS]

00:24:22   it's like to be on the in the RV on the [TS]

00:24:24   open road so he comes back with George [TS]

00:24:28   comes back with two baseball game [TS]

00:24:29   opportunities and and all the sudden I'm [TS]

00:24:31   just like door uh so i have to write [TS]

00:24:34   back and say what I meant was tuesday [TS]

00:24:37   wednesday thursday and then I sound like [TS]

00:24:40   it like a dingaling we do you do like [TS]

00:24:42   but I can't cancel on Andi and I can't [TS]

00:24:44   you know I can't change memorial day so [TS]

00:24:46   it went from i went from walking around [TS]

00:24:50   on my tippy-toes thinking about going to [TS]

00:24:54   the baseball game with George to here i [TS]

00:24:56   am again here i am again on my own [TS]

00:25:00   going down the only road i've ever known [TS]

00:25:02   yeah which is the road of song like a [TS]

00:25:05   drifter your I was born to walk alone [TS]

00:25:08   alone alone alone alone alone run me da [TS]

00:25:12   cheese great Watergate conjugate [TS]

00:25:14   innovative entrepreneur eight [TS]

00:25:17   so those are the sixties you know you [TS]

00:25:21   know I'm you know that I man in excess [TS]

00:25:24   defender but I also one of the big time [TS]

00:25:27   INXS haters [TS]

00:25:29   yeah it's one of those many things I [TS]

00:25:31   avoid talking to me about INXS we're [TS]

00:25:34   talking about in excess or listening to [TS]

00:25:35   index which would make you happier i'm [TS]

00:25:39   not i'm not a huge fan [TS]

00:25:41   you don't like it except I didn't say [TS]

00:25:42   that I didn't say that I 60 more dollars [TS]

00:25:45   for years you dined out of that hole [TS]

00:25:46   like I'm not a fan thing and now you're [TS]

00:25:47   all of your fan of everything now be [TS]

00:25:51   wrong i'm a huge Bob Dylan fans yeah see [TS]

00:25:54   now [TS]

00:25:55   yeah I the tides have turned you are the [TS]

00:25:57   old crunching guy who doesn't like [TS]

00:25:59   things and I love every oh my god i sold [TS]

00:26:01   my combs haha i know uh captain america [TS]

00:26:05   captain my America a four-star superhero [TS]

00:26:10   i love it also effective [TS]

00:26:13   um no it's because that I super super [TS]

00:26:16   like like almost half a half a dozen of [TS]

00:26:20   their songs and then I just kind of [TS]

00:26:22   really don't like a bunch of them we [TS]

00:26:24   talked about one time and take a little [TS]

00:26:25   ugly use between you and me rapport with [TS]

00:26:28   our with our listeners know this was [TS]

00:26:30   with me so you and I were talking about [TS]

00:26:32   in excess and it got ugly [TS]

00:26:34   well no I avoided it before got two of [TS]

00:26:36   the I like the one thing that's great [TS]

00:26:39   song i like the dream on white girl [TS]

00:26:42   white boy black girl white boy i like [TS]

00:26:44   that song a lot it has a different title [TS]

00:26:47   because the eighties you give a title [TS]

00:26:48   that wasn't in the song [TS]

00:26:49   yeah there's that I like that song is [TS]

00:26:51   about em down down [TS]

00:26:54   shoosh bah-bah-bah you know I didn't [TS]

00:26:57   like super salad bar like I didn't like [TS]

00:26:59   that era mi know but but but the soup [TS]

00:27:03   and salad bar so someone didn't like [TS]

00:27:05   that one not know that's not very good [TS]

00:27:07   now [TS]

00:27:08   ok also never tear us apart is a great [TS]

00:27:10   song [TS]

00:27:11   yeah okay yeah you know what I went like [TS]

00:27:13   that's good there come on that's a [TS]

00:27:14   really good song and that's later period [TS]

00:27:16   so it at the thing you want to do with [TS]

00:27:18   in excess and say like REM know all the [TS]

00:27:22   shit in the early days was good and all [TS]

00:27:23   the later stuff is bad you pull depeche [TS]

00:27:25   mode right but that does not work with [TS]

00:27:27   in excess because there is garbage in [TS]

00:27:30   the garbage out this terrible songs at [TS]

00:27:31   the beginning terrible songs at the end [TS]

00:27:33   but then how do you account for the [TS]

00:27:34   great songs at the beginning and the [TS]

00:27:37   great songs at the end you can account [TS]

00:27:38   for them unless you can let you make an [TS]

00:27:40   actual study of this you gotta really [TS]

00:27:42   get in there you gotta put on some [TS]

00:27:43   gloves it has mass suit you wait into [TS]

00:27:45   the XS and the thing about it is beyond [TS]

00:27:48   my impression of INXS is that they wrote [TS]

00:27:51   democratically right they never kicked [TS]

00:27:54   the drummer out they never there's no [TS]

00:27:56   change its INXS the entire time all of [TS]

00:27:59   the bros and nobody steps forward as [TS]

00:28:03   like well I'm kind of the genius here [TS]

00:28:05   well that with the media it's long has [TS]

00:28:07   11 writer on it who is a man called [TS]

00:28:10   Andrew Farriss with ok two arms and two [TS]

00:28:12   S's ok so he's a member of the band [TS]

00:28:15   yes Andrew Farriss so maybe they're [TS]

00:28:17   right and he got the glasses now he's a [TS]

00:28:18   singer singer singer [TS]

00:28:20   no Michael Hutchence is the single [TS]

00:28:21   michael hutchence famous michael [TS]

00:28:23   hutchence hmm michael hutchence [TS]

00:28:25   everybody acknowledges alive did he take [TS]

00:28:28   his own life [TS]

00:28:29   no yeah it's not clear that i had one of [TS]

00:28:32   those countries situations yeah okay all [TS]

00:28:34   right now said but but you know you got [TS]

00:28:37   the impression that they really worked [TS]

00:28:39   as a band to change i like don't change [TS]

00:28:41   oh my god it's one of the great songs [TS]

00:28:43   great that's great i still walk along [TS]

00:28:45   and uh change down now and they had the [TS]

00:28:50   don't change music video [TS]

00:28:51   who is that they had a really good idea [TS]

00:28:54   really good idea which was that they [TS]

00:28:57   were going to play they're going to get [TS]

00:29:01   into the back of a pickup truck and [TS]

00:29:02   drive away while still playing the song [TS]

00:29:04   but what do you do with the drummer [TS]

00:29:06   alright so everybody gets in all the [TS]

00:29:09   bass player jumps in the guitar player [TS]

00:29:10   they're all still playing this and then [TS]

00:29:12   he'll hit defender or something at yeah [TS]

00:29:13   yeah he did [TS]

00:29:15   yes he's like drumming on the side of [TS]

00:29:16   the truck and that just doesn't work you [TS]

00:29:18   can still hear the kick drum in the [TS]

00:29:19   recording I wasn't convinced [TS]

00:29:22   yeah I don't like that there's a [TS]

00:29:23   geodetic right nonny identity music I [TS]

00:29:25   don't like that [TS]

00:29:26   mhm its on the screen you should you [TS]

00:29:28   should be able to hear it and vice versa [TS]

00:29:30   yeah precious heart I don't know need [TS]

00:29:34   you tuna they're gross [TS]

00:29:37   there's so much bad stuff though but I [TS]

00:29:39   you-know-who 6h it's terrible [TS]

00:29:43   terrible and yet and I'm i will go all [TS]

00:29:46   the way to the mass about what entitles [TS]

00:29:50   there's somebody bad stops all the way [TS]

00:29:53   devil inside you never inside and give [TS]

00:29:56   it to inglewood wasn't that's not good [TS]

00:29:58   what what you need [TS]

00:29:59   hmm which a lot of people i think if you [TS]

00:30:02   were using if you were putting the REM [TS]

00:30:04   overlay on in excess [TS]

00:30:05   uh-huh what you need would be orange [TS]

00:30:08   crush right it's the first sign that the [TS]

00:30:14   worm has turned blue [TS]

00:30:16   huh and i don't mean the worm has turned [TS]

00:30:17   into a Shakespearean sense i mean in [TS]

00:30:19   tequila send literally in the bottle [TS]

00:30:21   it's turned it's gone it has not turned [TS]

00:30:24   on you turned to a bad word oh I see you [TS]

00:30:30   do a little you doing a little sign [TS]

00:30:31   language stuff here a little bit fine [TS]

00:30:33   little Foucault pendulum but i'm saying [TS]

00:30:35   there are a lot of people that are gonna [TS]

00:30:36   go what you need is with the beginning [TS]

00:30:38   about it and I'm gonna say no bad access [TS]

00:30:41   was there all along and good and excess [TS]

00:30:43   was there all along and what you need [TS]

00:30:45   actually is in the good excess camp i [TS]

00:30:47   think i like when the i'm not saying [TS]

00:30:51   they're trying to do this but i like [TS]

00:30:53   when they do it in my head they're [TS]

00:30:54   trying to sound like hoodoo gurus that's [TS]

00:30:56   the one I like I like that in excess and [TS]

00:30:58   there's someone they seem like they're [TS]

00:31:00   trying to some more like I don't know [TS]

00:31:01   like not sisters of mercy but there they [TS]

00:31:03   get kinda like he's saying don't go [TS]

00:31:04   getting too low and it's got all the bam [TS]

00:31:07   bam kind of stuff i don't like the map [TS]

00:31:09   stuff that then that what you need has [TS]

00:31:12   more Batman it's got a lot about that [TS]

00:31:15   and almost any other song except you're [TS]

00:31:17   rich mix missionary man who are in [TS]

00:31:20   missionary man has almost exactly the [TS]

00:31:22   same amount of Bob as in excess what you [TS]

00:31:24   need and they're contemporaneous and I [TS]

00:31:27   think missionary man actually want to [TS]

00:31:29   mtv music that is about that song [TS]

00:31:31   yeah have you stored as with the mission [TS]

00:31:34   and our jam right arrow and the guy in [TS]

00:31:38   the music video for missionary man looks [TS]

00:31:40   exactly like the guy from world party [TS]

00:31:43   oh my goodness go go go look in look [TS]

00:31:46   immediately [TS]

00:31:46   mmm i think it's almost maybe is the chi [TS]

00:31:50   it's hard to watch this without watching [TS]

00:31:54   it I'm gonna come back to this mission [TS]

00:31:56   their radio supply have you explored the [TS]

00:31:59   previous band of her and they store the [TS]

00:32:03   tourists so what now [TS]

00:32:05   they were in a new wave power pop man [TS]

00:32:09   before that called the tourists you're [TS]

00:32:13   talking about Annie Lennox and Dave [TS]

00:32:15   Stewart yeah and they do a cover of oh I [TS]

00:32:20   only want to be with you [TS]

00:32:21   that is one of the great things let's [TS]

00:32:24   look right now let's go to one of you do [TS]

00:32:26   know that that would be fun it [TS]

00:32:31   [Music] [TS]

00:32:32   yeah go look guys go google on the [TS]

00:32:35   tourists I only want to be with no not [TS]

00:32:37   that version with the other version the [TS]

00:32:39   2010 film or wandering a florian henckel [TS]

00:32:43   von donnersmarck now that's director [TS]

00:32:46   that's kraftwerk cover band literally [TS]

00:32:48   florian henckel von donnersmarck is the [TS]

00:32:52   director of the tourists starring now [TS]

00:32:54   somebody angelina jolie is in it [TS]

00:32:57   the reason I print a lot is we have we [TS]

00:33:00   print and we scan we scan things and we [TS]

00:33:02   print things and i started printing out [TS]

00:33:04   photos [TS]

00:33:04   mm do you print out all your emails and [TS]

00:33:07   put them in a file cabinet prospective [TS]

00:33:09   only way I can get inbox zero bee-boop [TS]

00:33:13   that no fuck you were aware how many [TS]

00:33:18   wait how many folders do you have let me [TS]

00:33:20   get got a bunch of nada [TS]

00:33:23   god damn it um yes you do but it's okay [TS]

00:33:31   i just went full on Roscoe didn't I up [TS]

00:33:34   to remember the game a dog member flash [TS]

00:33:38   like they gave him my game a little [TS]

00:33:41   hound dog is the joke they couldn't have [TS]

00:33:44   a kid to the show so they added a dog [TS]

00:33:46   can give him a little dog named flash so [TS]

00:33:48   now you have you ever noticed that [TS]

00:33:49   sheriff Rosco p Coltrane is proto Bob [TS]

00:33:54   Odenkirk [TS]

00:33:54   how we have right I see that right oh [TS]

00:33:58   yeah Bob Odenkirk is doing Roscoe p [TS]

00:34:00   Coltrane right about one-third of his [TS]

00:34:03   characters that's yeah you know that's [TS]

00:34:07   finally on the HBO again on there a [TS]

00:34:10   little streaming channel so i justyou [TS]

00:34:11   yeah yeah and I think that's one of the [TS]

00:34:13   shows that didn't belong to HBO you know [TS]

00:34:15   I it doesn't matter anyway I started [TS]

00:34:17   watching these shows again it's still [TS]

00:34:18   doing [TS]

00:34:19   yeah that's what it comes up a lot of [TS]

00:34:20   this program and people probably don't [TS]

00:34:21   know what we're talking about we make a [TS]

00:34:24   show checks so this is one of those [TS]

00:34:25   weird things where I you know I i [TS]

00:34:29   discovered this the other day I was [TS]

00:34:30   talking to a close friend about some [TS]

00:34:32   component of the alcohol recovery [TS]

00:34:36   movement and I realized that she really [TS]

00:34:39   didn't have a encyclopedic knowledge of [TS]

00:34:44   like addiction dependency culture and [TS]

00:34:49   literature and I was a time when [TS]

00:34:51   everything was 12-step deputy like in [TS]

00:34:54   the late eighties early nineties there's [TS]

00:34:56   a giant self-help boom and part of that [TS]

00:34:58   self-help boom lucky good luck suddenly [TS]

00:35:01   go to the bookstore this entire section [TS]

00:35:02   of pink books out of nowhere [TS]

00:35:04   remember you can always go right [TS]

00:35:05   together those mainly marketed at women [TS]

00:35:07   and women love pink so they're all these [TS]

00:35:09   pink books and everything was a call [TS]

00:35:11   recovery your recovery they say recovery [TS]

00:35:13   that is to say that today I think so [TS]

00:35:15   yeah there are a lot of people in [TS]

00:35:16   recovery still although it's not it [TS]

00:35:18   doesn't it doesn't feel like it's quite [TS]

00:35:20   the cure all that it once was but it was [TS]

00:35:23   I mean it got I don't sound insensitive [TS]

00:35:25   because it helped a lot of people but I [TS]

00:35:27   mean even the template AAA then you got [TS]

00:35:28   into narcotics anonymous and then I [TS]

00:35:31   think it became a lot about abuse like [TS]

00:35:33   wasn't like recovering from a pelican [TS]

00:35:35   abusive childhood that was up that was a [TS]

00:35:38   part of it and then it then it got to a [TS]

00:35:40   point where you could use the tenants or [TS]

00:35:41   rather it was it was promoted that you [TS]

00:35:47   could use the tenants of of Alcoholics [TS]

00:35:49   Anonymous to address almost any issue so [TS]

00:35:52   that you could you could be in recovery [TS]

00:35:54   from television you could be four you [TS]

00:35:58   know from over watching television you [TS]

00:36:00   could be in recovery from [TS]

00:36:02   I don't I mean that was the point at [TS]

00:36:05   which I i got off anything but it was [TS]

00:36:07   and I'm again I try because it helps you [TS]

00:36:09   but it was as though anything that was [TS]

00:36:11   traumatic and difficult or compulsive or [TS]

00:36:18   anything that preoccupied your mind [TS]

00:36:20   basement or caused you [TS]

00:36:23   you know i don't i'm not exactly even [TS]

00:36:25   sure because i didn't go to all the [TS]

00:36:26   punchline became a punch line that you [TS]

00:36:28   know that you're the key know there's [TS]

00:36:30   several punchlines about a not to make [TS]

00:36:32   fun of a but just to say like you know [TS]

00:36:34   maybe you have a problem that becomes a [TS]

00:36:36   punchline making amends to kinda becomes [TS]

00:36:39   a punch line but this this person I was [TS]

00:36:42   talking to was a millennium and she did [TS]

00:36:48   not you know the millenniums millenniums [TS]

00:36:51   are gonna make the Dean's look they're [TS]

00:36:54   gonna make the Generation Y look like [TS]

00:36:56   the greatest general more like [TS]

00:36:57   generation why am i right row generation [TS]

00:37:00   why not [TS]

00:37:01   sochi they you know didn't come up in [TS]

00:37:06   this they came up in post recovery irony [TS]

00:37:10   era sure so she just doesn't even you [TS]

00:37:14   know and I'm talking to her like oh yeah [TS]

00:37:15   but I'm gonna happen at all this like [TS]

00:37:17   with all this 12-step ism that sort of [TS]

00:37:21   is just in the water where I live and [TS]

00:37:24   she's like it's almost in a way reset [TS]

00:37:28   where the one of them the millenniums [TS]

00:37:31   are like alcohol alcoholics aren't they [TS]

00:37:35   like people to live under bridges like [TS]

00:37:38   no no no work with we spent years and [TS]

00:37:43   years trying to take away the stigma who [TS]

00:37:46   and now we neglected we didn't end that [TS]

00:37:49   garden for a little while and all the [TS]

00:37:51   millenniums like alcoholics that's gross [TS]

00:37:55   yeah hopefully we have to start all over [TS]

00:37:56   again we have to start we have to beat [TS]

00:37:59   them all down with our alcoholic [TS]

00:38:01   alcoholism like cricket bats [TS]

00:38:05   it's a cricket but black wax 23 flag so [TS]

00:38:12   a lot of you know a lot of language a [TS]

00:38:14   language [TS]

00:38:15   use but I feel a did you did I ever tell [TS]

00:38:18   you the story about the time I got a I [TS]

00:38:20   got a video like that I got texted a [TS]

00:38:23   video from Dave Stewart no I don't think [TS]

00:38:28   I know that I'm also just in consultable [TS]

00:38:31   right now that looks like the the [TS]

00:38:32   original mtv-style version of this video [TS]

00:38:35   is just not available the tourists yeah [TS]

00:38:37   used to be everywhere you'll still get [TS]

00:38:39   the feeling but it's really it's a [TS]

00:38:40   really cool a tease video so Dave [TS]

00:38:43   Stewart texted you a video [TS]

00:38:46   well yes so I had a friend who was [TS]

00:38:49   working in the studio in Nashville with [TS]

00:38:54   Dave Stewart producing and I was like [TS]

00:38:58   you gotta be kidding me [TS]

00:38:59   you gotta be kidding me you're working [TS]

00:39:01   with Dave Stewart I'm kind of a little [TS]

00:39:04   bit of a superfan [TS]

00:39:05   yeah and the person I was talking to was [TS]

00:39:09   also a millennium and they were like oh [TS]

00:39:13   really who know like he's the producer [TS]

00:39:16   on the sesh the house like he's the [TS]

00:39:19   producer on the sesh [TS]

00:39:20   I bet he is really looking forward to [TS]

00:39:22   the weekend you get that's not what but [TS]

00:39:25   he's also like you know major influence [TS]

00:39:29   on me one of the Great's truly one of [TS]

00:39:31   the grades and she was like old you want [TS]

00:39:34   me to like say hi to him for you and I [TS]

00:39:37   was like that [TS]

00:39:39   yes I do I don't know why but I do [TS]

00:39:44   and so a later on that night I get a [TS]

00:39:47   video of Dave Stewart very close to the [TS]

00:39:51   camera and honestly a little soused for [TS]

00:39:56   him saying LOL LOL up [TS]

00:40:00   hello John ourselves a stick with it [TS]

00:40:03   keep it keep being it great [TS]

00:40:06   masinloc who whatever [TS]

00:40:10   cheers mate and then he turns around and [TS]

00:40:13   and you know I think you anymore tassa [TS]

00:40:16   fault that that's literally standing and [TS]

00:40:20   always turns around maybe is also [TS]

00:40:22   wearing a top hat [TS]

00:40:24   members carrying a briefcase [TS]

00:40:27   that's possibly handcuffed to his wrist [TS]

00:40:30   and he walks slowly down the hall all [TS]

00:40:35   the top hat didn't fall off [TS]

00:40:36   no no it's a little jaunty angle all the [TS]

00:40:39   way to the end and then he turns to the [TS]

00:40:42   left but he doesn't like he doesn't [TS]

00:40:44   smooth he gets to the end stops turns to [TS]

00:40:47   the left its seeds off-screen like a [TS]

00:40:52   steampunk basic program yeah and I just [TS]

00:40:54   felt like wow that just made me that [TS]

00:40:58   just made my night [TS]

00:40:59   that's nice no it's nice that the [TS]

00:41:00   Millennium are thought to to get the [TS]

00:41:02   holeshot in my coveralls keep these kids [TS]

00:41:04   today they tear away you don't get more [TS]

00:41:06   into seconds of video of anything [TS]

00:41:07   interesting we learned in the age of the [TS]

00:41:09   handycam is that you got it you got to [TS]

00:41:11   stay on one thing for a while right and [TS]

00:41:14   then we'll do that today the kids don't [TS]

00:41:15   know that today [TS]

00:41:16   this wasn't a snapchat right this was a [TS]

00:41:18   this was something else [TS]

00:41:19   yeah this was that wasn't mine challenge [TS]

00:41:21   this was a film that she was making just [TS]

00:41:23   for me and she understood that that that [TS]

00:41:27   was one old person communicating through [TS]

00:41:30   that the internet tubes to another old [TS]

00:41:32   person and she was just an intermediary [TS]

00:41:34   and she was going to impose her [TS]

00:41:35   millennium aesthetic on it over because [TS]

00:41:38   she knew that this old person one [TS]

00:41:40   well as continuing to perform all the [TS]

00:41:42   way down the hall and that the other of [TS]

00:41:44   the old person on the other end of the [TS]

00:41:45   line was gonna keep watching this video [TS]

00:41:47   even if he walked to infinity and she [TS]

00:41:50   was like I'm gonna keep this camera [TS]

00:41:51   rolling I don't know what you guys are [TS]

00:41:52   doing [TS]

00:41:53   I don't even know who you are I'm images [TS]

00:41:57   of the tourists now and this is an evil [TS]

00:41:59   this is like I didn't even think [TS]

00:42:01   Maryland google young Annie Lennox well [TS]

00:42:05   that how far off i will have a nice week [TS]

00:42:08   that's how far off I what is the thing [TS]

00:42:11   forget what they forget is that she's [TS]

00:42:13   probably pushing 70 so a she looks I [TS]

00:42:17   mean not that it matters she looks [TS]

00:42:18   amazing today but like you know she was [TS]

00:42:21   in her thirties and the earth makes i [TS]

00:42:22   think god I wish you could see that [TS]

00:42:25   she's wearing like a little skirt and [TS]

00:42:27   it's like there's new way of going on [TS]

00:42:28   and there's it's a white but it's got [TS]

00:42:30   its got the classic 80s video that the [TS]

00:42:31   white background and they're like [TS]

00:42:32   standing on like pedestals and stuff its [TS]

00:42:34   petals neway pedestal ah [TS]

00:42:37   you know the other day I was you know we [TS]

00:42:42   we sometimes talk about Linda Ronstadt [TS]

00:42:46   yeah and then I was in a thrift store [TS]

00:42:51   with a friend and she brought over a [TS]

00:42:53   copy of the Linda Ronstadt album from [TS]

00:42:55   1976 where she's actually on roller sky [TS]

00:42:57   course that us something something USA [TS]

00:43:00   so much at USA america USA hockey is his [TS]

00:43:03   burger bank and she's wearing a jacket [TS]

00:43:07   on then she's that jacket and I pretty [TS]

00:43:09   sure satin shorts shorts or sound like [TS]

00:43:12   Jim trunks all or maybe they're [TS]

00:43:14   terrycloth either would be fine [TS]

00:43:17   yeah right like there's a part of me [TS]

00:43:19   that's the understatement shorts not [TS]

00:43:21   even sure I've ever been with a woman [TS]

00:43:22   who was wearing terry cloth shorts with [TS]

00:43:26   a little with little white bunting [TS]

00:43:27   uh-huh but that imprinted on me in 1976 [TS]

00:43:32   oh yeah someone of the idea the feminine [TS]

00:43:34   ideal and I've never I what I don't know [TS]

00:43:36   why I haven't ever acted that play out [TS]

00:43:38   yeah but in any case I realized that [TS]

00:43:41   there's a huge difference for me between [TS]

00:43:43   pre perm Linda Ronstadt post perm sure [TS]

00:43:47   and I was not pro perm [TS]

00:43:49   yeah i was anti Permian tire time that [TS]

00:43:52   firms were more pressure and affliction [TS]

00:43:54   they were everywhere my best friend got [TS]

00:43:55   a perm [TS]

00:43:56   I didn't like / 13 year old boy with a [TS]

00:43:58   permanent he deliberately got an afro [TS]

00:44:00   it's crazy to think you know Clapton all [TS]

00:44:03   through cream had a prom a giant perm [TS]

00:44:06   what is happening huh [TS]

00:44:09   I don't know how women I i clicked on [TS]

00:44:11   the tourists and I got a bunch of images [TS]

00:44:14   of fleetwood mac in the studio and I'm [TS]

00:44:16   not sorry about that either [TS]

00:44:18   yeah seagull earns it learns from you [TS]

00:44:20   this is such this is such an old old [TS]

00:44:23   dude old day to him and joyce joyce [TS]

00:44:27   meyers George myers lifemate yeah her [TS]

00:44:30   ok nice double points you know who her [TS]

00:44:34   father is her father is I don't be [TS]

00:44:38   creepy but just google people on the [TS]

00:44:39   internet there are her father is Lorenzo [TS]

00:44:42   simple junior none other than the [TS]

00:44:45   creator of Batman alongside William [TS]

00:44:47   Dozier know [TS]

00:44:48   haha you're kidding I'm not living in [TS]

00:44:51   Spain that he's 57 was approached by [TS]

00:44:52   William Dozier to develop the television [TS]

00:44:54   series on the common wrote a pilot [TS]

00:44:56   probably picked up series based on the [TS]

00:44:58   air for the first four episodes also [TS]

00:45:00   served as executive story editor fucking [TS]

00:45:02   Batman do this explains so much [TS]

00:45:05   hello dude he worked on three days of [TS]

00:45:07   the Condor he was the screenplay for [TS]

00:45:09   three days of the Condor I had no idea [TS]

00:45:11   you love that movie [TS]

00:45:12   I do and get a screenplay for papillon I [TS]

00:45:16   am [TS]

00:45:16   howdy good friends with Maria and I had [TS]

00:45:19   just know he just passed a couple couple [TS]

00:45:22   years ago you know she is a best-selling [TS]

00:45:24   author [TS]

00:45:25   yeah she did that movie heroes cookies [TS]

00:45:29   right yeah I know her name is instant I [TS]

00:45:32   saw her name I instantly recognized her [TS]

00:45:34   name [TS]

00:45:34   I'm gonna shoot 0 where did you go [TS]

00:45:37   Bernadette ok which was a new york times [TS]

00:45:40   bestselling book about abouts being in [TS]

00:45:42   Seattle she taught fiction writing at [TS]

00:45:44   the richard Hugo house [TS]

00:45:45   it all comes took the call comes around [TS]

00:45:47   next to which your band used to practice [TS]

00:45:49   that's right i am basically I i'm [TS]

00:45:52   basically the founder of the Richard [TS]

00:45:54   Hugo house it's basically named after [TS]

00:45:55   they throw you out to make it didn't [TS]

00:45:57   yeah yeah we're gonna make it after all [TS]

00:45:59   oh my god it's a analytics of the [TS]

00:46:03   tourists photographed in 1980 in some [TS]

00:46:05   kind of little like pearl beaded [TS]

00:46:08   sleeveless blue go go dress [TS]

00:46:11   yeah which is coming in she's really [TS]

00:46:15   wonderful those were the times [TS]

00:46:17   look at her she said look at Dave like a [TS]

00:46:18   skinny is he's not anymore i know i know [TS]

00:46:22   it happens happens to us when you know [TS]

00:46:25   he's a ginger 2004 guy it's amazing [TS]

00:46:28   amazing how he's gotten through it [TS]

00:46:30   here's why because they blocked it [TS]

00:46:32   fucking they locked the bit the vids got [TS]

00:46:35   blocked the whole sesh y-block the sash [TS]

00:46:39   the video contains content from SME [TS]

00:46:41   whatever that is who is blocked it in [TS]

00:46:43   your country on copyright is what it [TS]

00:46:44   feels like to be Canadian things blocked [TS]

00:46:47   ok just don't get stuff is that true [TS]

00:46:50   Oh have your service well look what [TS]

00:46:52   happened with our shirts like we didn't [TS]

00:46:53   know about this like people buy our [TS]

00:46:55   shirts in other countries and having [TS]

00:46:56   like pay all this extra money for [TS]

00:46:57   clothes w yeah about that [TS]

00:47:00   well this is the thing about car [TS]

00:47:02   verse right and that is the thing about [TS]

00:47:03   commerce commerce is a shitshow yeah and [TS]

00:47:06   all these always involves money almost [TS]

00:47:09   always involves money but it's like they [TS]

00:47:11   are trying with these duties to protect [TS]

00:47:14   themselves against something right and [TS]

00:47:17   rather than tax oil appropriately or [TS]

00:47:22   rather than you know it Ted rather than [TS]

00:47:24   tax people better making billions [TS]

00:47:26   they're adding a 19-percent v 82a to a [TS]

00:47:33   single t-shirt that you're ordering from [TS]

00:47:36   some ding-a-lings in America it's like [TS]

00:47:38   really that's how you're going to pay [TS]

00:47:39   for your for universal public health is [TS]

00:47:42   what these fuckin duties and the thing [TS]

00:47:44   is most of the time they're just doing [TS]

00:47:45   it because America has done a similar [TS]

00:47:47   thing yeah it's like you talk about free [TS]

00:47:50   trade bill clinton talk about free trade [TS]

00:47:52   em free free the trade and this by the [TS]

00:48:00   time this episode comes out it there [TS]

00:48:02   won't be much piloted by a teacher so [TS]

00:48:03   I'm not gonna say bye teacher what i [TS]

00:48:04   will say is thank you to the people who [TS]

00:48:06   bought t-shirts as I look at this right [TS]

00:48:08   now John Roderick people have purchased [TS]

00:48:11   1257 rock on the line t-shirts [TS]

00:48:15   well done people thank you everybody [TS]

00:48:17   knows that nice people to do that [TS]

00:48:19   well it is I don't I don't I wouldn't [TS]

00:48:21   say nice because i think they're getting [TS]

00:48:22   a wonderful thing they're gonna be [TS]

00:48:25   wonderful [TS]

00:48:25   it's so nice isn't she so mad made you [TS]

00:48:29   so mad when time was like John could [TS]

00:48:31   make a big deal about this that's fuck [TS]

00:48:33   it's free money and you said there's no [TS]

00:48:35   such thing as free money [TS]

00:48:37   wait a minute what why are you imitating [TS]

00:48:40   me in the voice of somebody who works in [TS]

00:48:42   a wake up in the boiler room of a [TS]

00:48:44   submarine it doesn't know sort of your [TS]

00:48:49   heart to heart that's what you sound [TS]

00:48:50   like when you're texting sometimes yeah [TS]

00:48:53   I told you about that day [TS]

00:48:55   yeah I said to you I said it all home [TS]

00:48:57   yeah everybody top had everybody can [TS]

00:49:03   come here in kc everybody order radical [TS]

00:49:06   on the line t-shirt got great t-shirt [TS]

00:49:10   value for their money [TS]

00:49:11   that's true and now they're going to be [TS]

00:49:12   able to wear those shirts out it's going [TS]

00:49:14   to improve [TS]

00:49:15   move their chances of mating gonna get [TS]

00:49:17   more tail than Sinatra right because [TS]

00:49:18   they're gonna they're gonna be wearing [TS]

00:49:20   the shirt someone is going to look at [TS]

00:49:22   them from across the crowded dance floor [TS]

00:49:23   and they're going to say there is a [TS]

00:49:27   rather than the line listener [TS]

00:49:28   I too AM erotic on the line listener [TS]

00:49:30   it's absolutely right let's make whoopie [TS]

00:49:33   yeah right even if they don't have a lot [TS]

00:49:37   of finger banging just based on this one [TS]

00:49:39   shirt I think he knows you knows what [TS]

00:49:41   people don't care whose finger is where [TS]

00:49:42   you put it I'm just glad we got you a [TS]

00:49:44   shirt that's gonna put you in that [TS]

00:49:45   situation where you can say yay or nay [TS]

00:49:46   em right under I have learned that a lot [TS]

00:49:49   of our listeners are millenniums yeah [TS]

00:49:51   and they have all kinds of weird sex [TS]

00:49:53   with each other we have only about this [TS]

00:49:55   yeah but sex and they keep their [TS]

00:49:57   virginity thought that's twice what I [TS]

00:50:01   got keep talking about it because I [TS]

00:50:02   think it's great i've been thinking [TS]

00:50:03   about it a lot [TS]

00:50:04   I've been thinking about it a lot it's [TS]

00:50:06   it's really a new age it is a new age [TS]

00:50:10   think about you all the versions out [TS]

00:50:11   there who walk around here like these [TS]

00:50:13   kids are really sophisticated but [TS]

00:50:15   they're still virgins but banging but [TS]

00:50:17   the Virgin's yeah but bangin but being [TS]

00:50:20   virgins bad [TS]

00:50:23   no I don't accept the recommendation by [TS]

00:50:25   an accessory bamm-bamm but being virgins [TS]

00:50:28   I would reevaluate their whole career [TS]

00:50:30   but it's too late now you can feel it in [TS]

00:50:32   your gut [TS]

00:50:33   you'll be banging in the but I'm wow [TS]

00:50:36   that's why you need to do you like gurus [TS]

00:50:44   they were hot for a while I think the [TS]

00:50:46   Australian yeah well who gurus were one [TS]

00:50:49   of those bands that were like proto [TS]

00:50:51   ma'am [TS]

00:50:52   they were like rootsy they would like it [TS]

00:50:54   was a routine kind of things in the root [TS]

00:50:56   Sierra roots here [TS]

00:50:58   yeah you got legs like guys / the [TS]

00:51:00   Reavers you got like yellows bands are [TS]

00:51:02   doing a routine thing [TS]

00:51:03   mhm like like lone justice you got a [TS]

00:51:07   lone justice all boys she something she [TS]

00:51:08   we've talked about we talked about her [TS]

00:51:10   but I feel I feel like I feel like you [TS]

00:51:14   there's this is one of those things [TS]

00:51:16   where you are just a couple years older [TS]

00:51:18   than me not even just 22 years old [TS]

00:51:22   maybe I'll i grew up with Star Wars you [TS]

00:51:25   got that Empire Strikes Back exactly [TS]

00:51:27   like you were you were listening to this [TS]

00:51:31   is the fitness gurus is right in this [TS]

00:51:33   key little keyhole [TS]

00:51:36   oh yeah the difference right there you [TS]

00:51:39   would not have been exposed that like I [TS]

00:51:41   would expect you were one year ahead of [TS]

00:51:43   me and some stuff like that so like [TS]

00:51:45   Mitch Easter's band and stuff like that [TS]

00:51:47   you were whatever I do I love less [TS]

00:51:51   active you were already digging into [TS]

00:51:53   let's active at a time when I was like I [TS]

00:51:55   was in rem fanatic i would do anything [TS]

00:51:58   that was related to REM i sought out [TS]

00:52:00   everything that starts with Peter like [TS]

00:52:02   Peter Buck wearing a blue skidoo' sure I [TS]

00:52:03   gotta check out his video to like our [TS]

00:52:06   like michael stipe singing on the these [TS]

00:52:09   two ladies the the doctor go girl yes [TS]

00:52:12   yes but I'm and believe me i was all [TS]

00:52:15   over the indigo girls who were into [TS]

00:52:18   girls like like some wet cellophane em [TS]

00:52:21   but I'll daniel damn so that's called [TS]

00:52:24   John what sort of Rasputin a beard down [TS]

00:52:27   to his knee [TS]

00:52:28   the thing about a dental dams it's not [TS]

00:52:30   going to prevent the spread of STDs [TS]

00:52:31   place in meatspace it's but if you and [TS]

00:52:35   your damn i was i was like also still [TS]

00:52:37   listening to billy squier at this point [TS]

00:52:39   right I'll know he was well and truly [TS]

00:52:41   into his silly dance for my stage he was [TS]

00:52:45   I just watched rock me tonight in the [TS]

00:52:47   last 10 years [TS]

00:52:47   yes i have you need to be opera ok I [TS]

00:52:50   mean have you really watched it because [TS]

00:52:51   you just came but even in the first 20 [TS]

00:52:53   you cannot believe this video ever [TS]

00:52:55   existed [TS]

00:52:56   it's so much worse than I remember I had [TS]

00:52:58   I had quite a bit of you mean I billy [TS]

00:53:01   squier was very problematic for me who [TS]

00:53:03   because because i really liked those [TS]

00:53:07   first two records and then it then it [TS]

00:53:11   started to get really really strange [TS]

00:53:13   over in the billy squier camp it it did [TS]

00:53:16   I think that video it's kind of a mean I [TS]

00:53:19   think that video was hard on him the [TS]

00:53:20   video the rocky tonight video do red [TS]

00:53:23   oral histories of that video [TS]

00:53:24   yeah yeah but also it wasn't just the [TS]

00:53:27   video like he came out with some kind of [TS]

00:53:28   strength [TS]

00:53:29   he he he started appearing with a [TS]

00:53:31   signature model guitar which was like a [TS]

00:53:34   pastel colored Schechter it was like it [TS]

00:53:37   was like a modified Telecaster such as I [TS]

00:53:40   think the sector some some guitar that [TS]

00:53:43   also was not very hard to defend her not [TS]

00:53:45   hire him he's a squire telly 10 [TS]

00:53:49   different spelling you why did i know [TS]

00:53:52   why i never thought of that it's [TS]

00:53:53   brilliant means money on the table free [TS]

00:53:55   money [TS]

00:53:56   why the hell didn't make any money on [TS]

00:53:58   everything I love I love the in the dark [TS]

00:54:02   Ram the dock don't know but don't pop [TS]

00:54:06   and mrs. that's a great mystery that's [TS]

00:54:07   good he's got monster drums on it and [TS]

00:54:09   was just with some emotions in motion is [TS]

00:54:11   what we're talking about right emotions [TS]

00:54:12   emotions is a great great to know rock [TS]

00:54:14   me tonight came and repeat of that album [TS]

00:54:17   yeah that's from that Rodney tonight [TS]

00:54:18   potential tracks well no it's from signs [TS]

00:54:20   of life signs of life 1984a you're [TS]

00:54:24   absolutely right [TS]

00:54:25   whereas emotions in motion from the [TS]

00:54:29   album emotions in motion that record i [TS]

00:54:32   think is bulletproof emotions emotions [TS]

00:54:35   on my girlfriend at the time and first [TS]

00:54:40   serious partner downstairs there are two [TS]

00:54:43   people two men that she regarded as the [TS]

00:54:45   height of sexy and that was Billy Idol [TS]

00:54:47   and Billy square both in Billy so you [TS]

00:54:51   know Billy Billy is also some kind of [TS]

00:54:53   cockney rhyming slang for penis meets [TS]

00:54:56   yeah when you say Billy Billy Corgan [TS]

00:54:57   just means penis penis course smartest [TS]

00:55:00   kid have you seen him lately [TS]

00:55:04   billy corgan i'll tell you all the time [TS]

00:55:06   because we're both members of the [TS]

00:55:07   chemtrail some secret chemical he he had [TS]

00:55:12   John Mayer and i spent about the desert [TS]

00:55:14   he's turned into a Bond villain he's so [TS]

00:55:18   he was always the worst [TS]

00:55:19   i remember in 1992 a guy from Anchorage [TS]

00:55:24   came down and was living in the house [TS]

00:55:27   that I was already crashing in before he [TS]

00:55:29   showed up he was a guy went to high [TS]

00:55:30   school [TS]

00:55:31   he's actually a guy he's in some ways he [TS]

00:55:35   was one of those like keep your friends [TS]

00:55:36   close and your enemies closer guys who [TS]

00:55:38   he was he and I have the exact same [TS]

00:55:40   birthday [TS]

00:55:41   his name was David exact same birthday [TS]

00:55:44   were born on the same day [TS]

00:55:46   in history same birthdate same birthdate [TS]

00:55:48   doesn't work that's an important [TS]

00:55:50   distinction 1968 yes but he was a year [TS]

00:55:54   younger in school he was a junior when I [TS]

00:55:56   was a senior and he was very handsome he [TS]

00:56:01   looks like a young Tom Selleck which I [TS]

00:56:03   know doesn't sound very good but he had [TS]

00:56:05   like super dimples and it was cute and [TS]

00:56:09   he was like he was GQ let me get my old [TS]

00:56:13   for his grade and made you young for [TS]

00:56:15   your grade I was very young for [TS]

00:56:16   migrating very old for his grip and I i [TS]

00:56:20   read a thing the other day that said [TS]

00:56:21   that kids born during the summer [TS]

00:56:23   typically have a typically this is the [TS]

00:56:29   new metric apparently every I've read [TS]

00:56:31   this all the time now as a as a way of [TS]

00:56:34   like tracking kids progress but kids [TS]

00:56:36   born in the summer are less likely like [TS]

00:56:39   significantly less likely to become CEOs [TS]

00:56:42   which is the american standard of [TS]

00:56:44   achievement no kidding because they're [TS]

00:56:47   the youngest kid in their grade and so [TS]

00:56:50   if you're born in july or something then [TS]

00:56:52   you're much younger than kids that are [TS]

00:56:54   born in April because if you're born in [TS]

00:56:58   July your you know you are you're in the [TS]

00:57:02   class of you know you turned five and [TS]

00:57:05   then you are intending it like if you're [TS]

00:57:07   born during the school year [TS]

00:57:08   what becomes the school year you get [TS]

00:57:10   their normal birthday parties right but [TS]

00:57:12   you get a summer birthday and we're [TS]

00:57:13   gonna do you need a half birthday [TS]

00:57:15   I mean like that's weird but i was born [TS]

00:57:17   in September zone and I went into the [TS]

00:57:20   grade school I went into grade as though [TS]

00:57:23   I were one of these you know I was four [TS]

00:57:25   when i started kindergarten so talk [TS]

00:57:28   about less likely to be a CEO yeah you [TS]

00:57:30   could not be more disadvantaged than me [TS]

00:57:32   in this capacity it a kid born two days [TS]

00:57:34   later would have been held back here [TS]

00:57:37   I should have been but doesn't give you [TS]

00:57:39   a great shift to have great to be a fly [TS]

00:57:41   on it [TS]

00:57:41   yes i do have grip mhm i'm still not a [TS]

00:57:43   CEO but it's i'm still a young man [TS]

00:57:45   yeah anyway David so so I I probably [TS]

00:57:50   told you this before but I decided when [TS]

00:57:53   I was a junior [TS]

00:57:55   but I've never had a girlfriend and I [TS]

00:57:58   had never i was succeeding in high [TS]

00:58:03   school in the sense that I was making a [TS]

00:58:07   name for myself as a as a as a kind of [TS]

00:58:11   an anti-authoritarian clown the [TS]

00:58:15   blutarsky move but I was not succeeding [TS]

00:58:21   in high school on high schools terms and [TS]

00:58:24   in my junior year at the very beginning [TS]

00:58:25   of my junior year I said you know what [TS]

00:58:27   I'm not gonna do this i'm not going to [TS]

00:58:29   go through high school being a dork i am [TS]

00:58:33   going to i'm going to do something about [TS]

00:58:37   it and I remember I had my dad my mom is [TS]

00:58:42   actually sounds like something my mom [TS]

00:58:43   and then she bought me one of those desk [TS]

00:58:45   blotters oh nice looking like the [TS]

00:58:47   calendar the calendar was a terrific [TS]

00:58:50   well yeah but I mean talk about it talk [TS]

00:58:52   about a 10th grader whose pretty much [TS]

00:58:56   destined to be a dork all through high [TS]

00:58:58   school and desk blotter sure and I'm [TS]

00:59:00   sitting at my desk blotter before junior [TS]

00:59:04   year starts I'm plotting how am I gonna [TS]

00:59:06   do this [TS]

00:59:07   how am I gonna how am I going to like [TS]

00:59:09   overcome because i'm sitting in the back [TS]

00:59:13   of the class right now I'm covered in [TS]

00:59:15   dandruff [TS]

00:59:16   I don't shoot tobacco I've never kissed [TS]

00:59:18   a girl i'm a year younger than ever in [TS]

00:59:22   here like the world's saddest nuttin no [TS]

00:59:25   haggart's left [TS]

00:59:26   yeah come I'm shaped like like one of [TS]

00:59:29   those logs of cookie dough and I smell [TS]

00:59:32   like one of those logs of cookie dough [TS]

00:59:34   because when are you moving school I eat [TS]

00:59:36   about a half a log of cookie dough [TS]

00:59:38   uncooked yeah because it's the greatest [TS]

00:59:41   thing in history i am just I am like up [TS]

00:59:45   i am the worst realizing you gotta [TS]

00:59:47   change your game a little bit yeah I [TS]

00:59:48   gotta check yourself before you wreck [TS]

00:59:50   yourself [TS]

00:59:51   what do i do and i wrote there because [TS]

00:59:54   my dad was born in nineteen twenty-one [TS]

00:59:55   and he used a lexicon that even in the [TS]

00:59:59   evenin [TS]

00:59:59   evenin [TS]

01:00:00   early nineteen eighties was no longer [TS]

01:00:01   being used but I wrote big man on campus [TS]

01:00:04   right time i see the moc on the top of [TS]

01:00:08   my desk blotter and I looked at the [TS]

01:00:10   words i studied the words I was like big [TS]

01:00:12   man on campus how does one become a big [TS]

01:00:15   man on campus because my dad would talk [TS]

01:00:17   about at the at the fraternities in 1938 [TS]

01:00:21   the big man on campus he he tied up a [TS]

01:00:25   crew sweater around his neck any swing a [TS]

01:00:27   tennis racket everywhere he went to me [TS]

01:00:29   was a member of the crew team and he [TS]

01:00:31   drove a model a jalopy with a raccoon [TS]

01:00:33   tail hanging from the from the antenna [TS]

01:00:36   that right there is a big man on campus [TS]

01:00:37   it's a big man on campus he would cram a [TS]

01:00:39   bunch of undergraduates into a phone [TS]

01:00:41   booth uh-huh like he was he was the guy [TS]

01:00:44   who was the guy like saddle swallow a [TS]

01:00:46   goldfish that kind of thing that's right [TS]

01:00:48   mhm so how do i get to be a big man on [TS]

01:00:50   campus studying this thing and I was [TS]

01:00:51   like just studying the words big man on [TS]

01:00:54   campus [TS]

01:00:55   I've got to get a girlfriend that's one [TS]

01:00:58   of the things that you've gotta get a [TS]

01:00:59   girlfriend and I was like how does one [TS]

01:01:02   get a girlfriend I have no earthly idea [TS]

01:01:04   girls terrify me [TS]

01:01:06   I don't know how to go about doing this [TS]

01:01:09   I feel like you need to exercise may be [TS]

01:01:12   in order to get a girlfriend maybe not [TS]

01:01:15   sure so I went to school in the [TS]

01:01:18   beginning of my junior year I was like [TS]

01:01:20   you could tell just by the way people [TS]

01:01:23   treated me that I was being I was [TS]

01:01:26   definitely on a track to be excluded and [TS]

01:01:34   I already preferred to be in the band [TS]

01:01:36   room at lunch so I was headed their part [TS]

01:01:40   like my preference was to ally myself [TS]

01:01:44   with my peers who were people that sat [TS]

01:01:47   in the band room at lunch and practice [TS]

01:01:50   the clarinet or sat in the dark room of [TS]

01:01:53   the student newspaper and like I mean [TS]

01:01:55   had a friend who was the one of the [TS]

01:01:58   photographers of the student newspaper [TS]

01:01:58   who would just take surreptitious [TS]

01:02:00   photographs of the cheerleaders and then [TS]

01:02:02   develop them and like I don't know what [TS]

01:02:05   he would do with the pictures to mean [TS]

01:02:06   it's not like they were panty upskirt [TS]

01:02:08   shots everybody sees applying himself [TS]

01:02:10   yeah he would just sit across the just [TS]

01:02:12   focus on the gym [TS]

01:02:13   weirdo but i decided i needed a [TS]

01:02:17   girlfriend so i started i got just got [TS]

01:02:20   to school to be getting a junior year [TS]

01:02:21   and I was like who is going to be my [TS]

01:02:22   girlfriend who's the lucky girl who [TS]

01:02:24   who's who is going to like be the one [TS]

01:02:29   and I picked Kiki for I've talked about [TS]

01:02:32   her on the show but she's a redhead girl [TS]

01:02:33   that's right redheaded girl night and [TS]

01:02:35   she was the class president I chased her [TS]

01:02:36   I chased her i chased your muscles and [TS]

01:02:39   then I want her affections and then we [TS]

01:02:42   were like a couple and she was abused a [TS]

01:02:46   big wheel and then I was a big wheel [TS]

01:02:49   I was big man on campus all of a sudden [TS]

01:02:51   largely because I had because i had [TS]

01:02:54   coupled with this with this very [TS]

01:02:57   accomplished lady and when I genuinely [TS]

01:03:04   loved her I mean she was she was in my [TS]

01:03:07   thoughts all the time because she kind [TS]

01:03:09   of your Diane Court a little bit out of [TS]

01:03:11   your league [TS]

01:03:12   she was totally out of my league and she [TS]

01:03:13   said so multiple times you know notes [TS]

01:03:15   that she would pass me in class that [TS]

01:03:17   said literally i am out of your league [TS]

01:03:20   stop harassing you dander covered log [TS]

01:03:25   and i would say look I know then this is [TS]

01:03:31   just a code for how much you love and [TS]

01:03:34   adore here and she would say you are log [TS]

01:03:38   I'm a very important woman I have [TS]

01:03:41   important business to attend to [TS]

01:03:44   which includes getting good grades and [TS]

01:03:46   being popular and he who are I'm just [TS]

01:03:49   the fact that passing you these notes is [TS]

01:03:51   diminishing my stature [TS]

01:03:53   uh-huh and I was like I love you too [TS]

01:03:55   baby [TS]

01:03:56   anyway Kelly Cooper and I broke up [TS]

01:04:01   during the summer between junior and [TS]

01:04:04   senior year largely because after we [TS]

01:04:08   were in a relationship she was like [TS]

01:04:10   here's what relationships look like and [TS]

01:04:13   I didn't understand that and still don't [TS]

01:04:16   I was like what you mean we just spend [TS]

01:04:18   all our time together just you and me [TS]

01:04:20   all the time [TS]

01:04:21   uh-huh she was like that's right that's [TS]

01:04:23   what that's what boys and girls do when [TS]

01:04:24   they become an early [TS]

01:04:25   chip but that's not what you're [TS]

01:04:26   expecting I was like I thought that what [TS]

01:04:28   you did was you guys like did went out [TS]

01:04:31   together and did crimes are so do [TS]

01:04:33   whatever you like with your leaders of a [TS]

01:04:35   gang [TS]

01:04:35   uh-huh like wouldn't you be picky picky [TS]

01:04:38   just because the good Garrow to my [TS]

01:04:41   Fonzie yeah [TS]

01:04:42   pinky and Fonzie didn't just hold up all [TS]

01:04:44   the time and watch ferris bueller's day [TS]

01:04:45   off on VHS know they were like hanging [TS]

01:04:48   with their with their gangs their [TS]

01:04:50   respective gang adventures your own [TS]

01:04:52   adventures but you've got your gang has [TS]

01:04:54   pink satin jackets my gang is apparently [TS]

01:04:57   Richie and Pazzi which is weird wouldn't [TS]

01:05:01   find you have like a cool cool gang [TS]

01:05:03   yes anyway we broke up during the summer [TS]

01:05:08   the beginning of junior beginning of [TS]

01:05:09   senior year Kelly starts going out with [TS]

01:05:11   David David David you're all your [TS]

01:05:15   frenemy [TS]

01:05:17   that's right the guy who has the same [TS]

01:05:19   birthday as me exactly where exactly the [TS]

01:05:21   same age but he's a year younger that's [TS]

01:05:24   no accident [TS]

01:05:25   he's a year younger and he's all [TS]

01:05:26   fashionable he's like super fashionable [TS]

01:05:29   he's where he's gotta guess watch the [TS]

01:05:32   you know he's wearing his red guess [TS]

01:05:34   clothes and he's got his hair is all [TS]

01:05:37   perfectly you're selling your own [TS]

01:05:38   alligator on things [TS]

01:05:40   I'm someone I'm someone in an extra [TS]

01:05:42   alligator humping the one alligator like [TS]

01:05:45   the alligator on the shirt minion extra [TS]

01:05:47   alligator because I'm living out some [TS]

01:05:50   movies that I've been writing as i go [TS]

01:05:53   and i was so appalled i was so I was [TS]

01:06:00   appalled [TS]

01:06:01   that's what it was I was like why are [TS]

01:06:02   you wire is kelly why are you debasing [TS]

01:06:05   yourself by going out with this child [TS]

01:06:07   who's the same age as me she was like I [TS]

01:06:10   don't know he's really handsome [TS]

01:06:11   so David years later moved into the same [TS]

01:06:19   house i was living in down here in [TS]

01:06:21   Seattle [TS]

01:06:22   I wasn't paying rent i was sleeping on [TS]

01:06:23   the couch her he moved in and actually [TS]

01:06:26   started paying rent took one of the [TS]

01:06:27   rooms all that's not fair that's not [TS]

01:06:29   cricket both know so now his status in [TS]

01:06:32   this house in this grunge house is [TS]

01:06:34   higher than mine like you know what I [TS]

01:06:37   mean like if you rip your rent pay [TS]

01:06:39   absolutely you get you get you to have [TS]

01:06:41   preferences sure you get a shelf in the [TS]

01:06:43   cupboard that's for your canned food the [TS]

01:06:45   couch boys catch by with the [TS]

01:06:46   you-know-what like the kid is a log he [TS]

01:06:49   didn't get that I'm the long again [TS]

01:06:51   you're the dancer lawyer yeah I'm the [TS]

01:06:53   log and I'm and I'm and I'm stealing a [TS]

01:06:55   cancer ravioli out of the out of the [TS]

01:06:57   kitchen that don't even belong to me [TS]

01:06:58   because I could because not because I [TS]

01:07:00   can't [TS]

01:07:01   well I couldn't afford a can regulate my [TS]

01:07:02   own but if I could I would have even had [TS]

01:07:04   a shelf right haha so many levels it's [TS]

01:07:09   very confusing sure it's and so did she [TS]

01:07:13   come around [TS]

01:07:14   who oh sorry Kelly get back together [TS]

01:07:17   didn't you [TS]

01:07:18   not really well no she's like a doctor [TS]

01:07:21   now right yeah I was you know [TS]

01:07:23   oh we talked about this one time and [TS]

01:07:24   then some kid chastise me on the [TS]

01:07:26   internet because I said where she worked [TS]

01:07:28   three times or something like that [TS]

01:07:29   yeah but a but so now now i can barely I [TS]

01:07:33   can barely bring myself to under her [TS]

01:07:34   name but no she was what she was she [TS]

01:07:36   ended up she got her revenge on me got [TS]

01:07:39   her revenge on me for sure [TS]

01:07:41   not just but for dating David but you [TS]

01:07:44   know like other things she would [TS]

01:07:47   yeah she came to visit me in college [TS]

01:07:50   yeah one time came to visit me at my [TS]

01:07:53   weird northwestern Catholic school and [TS]

01:07:58   she sort of trips and you know I took a [TS]

01:07:59   year off before I went to college so I [TS]

01:08:01   was now a great under her i was a [TS]

01:08:04   freshman and she was a sophomore at a [TS]

01:08:05   big-time he's Coast University and she [TS]

01:08:09   came to my college and waltz around the [TS]

01:08:11   dorm like looking basically looking [TS]

01:08:14   indoors like what what do you what are [TS]

01:08:16   you kids doing here just like a why are [TS]

01:08:19   you doing this to me but you don't call [TS]

01:08:22   her Bluff on it cuz i kinda wanna see [TS]

01:08:25   what's your what's your game here Kelly [TS]

01:08:26   what's your game i did not have the [TS]

01:08:31   ability to call girls on their game [TS]

01:08:35   until just recently [TS]

01:08:36   oh really i was super interesting i was [TS]

01:08:39   4100 before i could say hey what's your [TS]

01:08:43   game here general purpose of just find [TS]

01:08:46   yourself calling someone on their game [TS]

01:08:47   no no I well oh you're saying that you [TS]

01:08:49   make a study of it saying I'm gonna go [TS]

01:08:50   call this girl in the game [TS]

01:08:52   I've been studying it for 26 years and I [TS]

01:08:54   think maybe I look maybe it at age 41 I [TS]

01:08:57   had a new desk blotter and i had written [TS]

01:08:59   at the top of it some other acronym and [TS]

01:09:02   I was like you know what you're never [TS]

01:09:04   gonna you're not gonna make it in this [TS]

01:09:06   life if you keep playing [TS]

01:09:08   it's not you know like boys can't play [TS]

01:09:10   games on me it's just girls that are [TS]

01:09:12   playing games on me and I keep taking [TS]

01:09:14   them at their word you keep giving him [TS]

01:09:15   the keys keys dear to your mind box [TS]

01:09:18   I'm like okay is this is that the or her [TS]

01:09:21   purple yeah yeah [TS]

01:09:23   and so I finally was like wait a minute [TS]

01:09:25   what's your game manager came and it was [TS]

01:09:28   very effective because you never done it [TS]

01:09:31   before but I've never done before and I [TS]

01:09:32   don't realize on doing it or but all the [TS]

01:09:34   sudden John is how to call somebody in a [TS]

01:09:35   game it's like you got a third I know my [TS]

01:09:37   friend now you don't even need to know [TS]

01:09:38   what their games you just you just say [TS]

01:09:40   what's your game and then they feel like [TS]

01:09:42   a whole different skill that's a whole [TS]

01:09:43   different later skill at least knowing [TS]

01:09:45   there's a game there it's like you're [TS]

01:09:46   there was no you're gaslighting me right [TS]

01:09:48   and they're like the jig is up [TS]

01:09:50   I don't know what you're doing but I [TS]

01:09:51   know you're doing something doing so I [TS]

01:09:53   don't know what you're doing but I know [TS]

01:09:54   you're doing something [TS]

01:09:54   whoo-hoo and all of a sudden it all [TS]

01:09:57   turned around or not all know it but you [TS]

01:09:59   know so some so no I was not capable of [TS]

01:10:02   calling Kelly on her game and she game [TS]

01:10:04   to the shit out of me a because she was [TS]

01:10:05   your older than me [TS]

01:10:06   b-because well no she would she would [TS]

01:10:09   say she wasn't year-old it's like a kid [TS]

01:10:11   with a magnifying glass and some ants [TS]

01:10:12   the EU know the kid does not have a good [TS]

01:10:14   reason for sizzling the and he's doing [TS]

01:10:16   because he can I think I think Kelly was [TS]

01:10:18   doing because she could not think he's a [TS]

01:10:20   bad person just by a great doctor but [TS]

01:10:22   the fact that she's doing that casinos [TS]

01:10:24   you you got your little dinosaur are you [TS]

01:10:25   trying to fight back with you got no [TS]

01:10:27   chance against Kelly I feel like all I [TS]

01:10:29   feel like this is true of all human yeah [TS]

01:10:30   in a deal doesn't really know like [TS]

01:10:32   destroy all humanoids at one level to [TS]

01:10:36   another level i love all people you do [TS]

01:10:38   and this is very challenging for people [TS]

01:10:40   sometimes to understand that I all [TS]

01:10:42   humans John you love humans i love all [TS]

01:10:44   humans and I want to destroy all humans [TS]

01:10:47   and now i don't see I don't think it's [TS]

01:10:51   necessarily incompatible I don't see how [TS]

01:10:53   that's incompatible it's like just like [TS]

01:10:55   McNamara says right sometimes you have [TS]

01:10:58   to destroy humanity to save it [TS]

01:10:59   that's exactly that's exactly right I i [TS]

01:11:02   love human so much and I believe in [TS]

01:11:05   humans but i believe that they should be [TS]

01:11:08   destroyed at all costs because the [TS]

01:11:12   plague [TS]

01:11:13   mhm and their plague on to one another [TS]

01:11:16   first 01 worst kind of plague a plague [TS]

01:11:19   that gives its own plague to a plague [TS]

01:11:21   that's right that's terrible you got [TS]

01:11:22   terraform that shit you got the guy a [TS]

01:11:24   bomb it's a plague that reproduces by [TS]

01:11:26   plugging itself it makes place by makes [TS]

01:11:28   plagues with plagues through plagues by [TS]

01:11:31   plagued by proxy em right so it keeps [TS]

01:11:35   injecting this it keeps injecting the [TS]

01:11:37   poop into itself [TS]

01:11:38   yeah yeah sure yeah that's that's the [TS]

01:11:41   kind of evolution [TS]

01:11:42   so what I want to do is basically what [TS]

01:11:44   if it rained for like 40 days [TS]

01:11:48   okay we're at night to rain tonight rain [TS]

01:11:51   all day and all night ok so 40 days and [TS]

01:11:54   40 nights [TS]

01:11:55   ok let's call it that ok rain that [TS]

01:11:57   entire time just rained can't get my [TS]

01:11:59   picture and I'm talking about a ranger [TS]

01:12:01   about like a lot of range lot of rain [TS]

01:12:03   and everywhere right now we're talking [TS]

01:12:05   about the entire earth forty days and [TS]

01:12:07   forty nights rain [TS]

01:12:10   ok ok it's raining in Antarctica it's [TS]

01:12:12   raining in the Gobi Desert its raining [TS]

01:12:15   its so first there's lots of those lots [TS]

01:12:16   of articles in the local paper about [TS]

01:12:18   this is good we've been having a drought [TS]

01:12:19   that's right it's nice that it's been [TS]

01:12:21   raining for eight days and eight nights [TS]

01:12:22   eight whole days imagine what would [TS]

01:12:25   happen in los angeles california that [TS]

01:12:26   reigned for eight straight days the [TS]

01:12:29   entire city with skid I don't know if [TS]

01:12:31   you've been daily recently who now say [TS]

01:12:33   once they're desperate for rain you have [TS]

01:12:37   any like people saying they want wisdom [TS]

01:12:38   they don't really want wisdom they just [TS]

01:12:40   want to be smart but you're talking [TS]

01:12:42   about a conflagration here you're [TS]

01:12:44   talking about a a disruptive see the [TS]

01:12:47   thing is now you got your sewers are [TS]

01:12:49   year roads you're going to spell all the [TS]

01:12:51   oils you're gonna stock up all the golf [TS]

01:12:53   courses like anywhere for that water to [TS]

01:12:55   go and just going to accumulate the LA [TS]

01:12:57   River is going to overflow its banks LA [TS]

01:12:59   River is going to make that [TS]

01:13:00   that's so but that was just raining in [TS]

01:13:07   LA and military yourselves over an [TS]

01:13:09   entire earth the earth it's raining on [TS]

01:13:12   earth for 40 days now right away and at [TS]

01:13:15   night ooo and at night there's no let up [TS]

01:13:18   know it doesn't let up right away the [TS]

01:13:20   the the weather channel is going to note [TS]

01:13:23   this right because normally it if it's [TS]

01:13:25   raining one place not raining another [TS]

01:13:27   house to CNN starts having a countdown [TS]

01:13:29   clock like you want to eat longest it's [TS]

01:13:31   ever reigned tick-tock tick-tock except [TS]

01:13:33   there except like moment 12 minutes into [TS]

01:13:36   this phenomenon [TS]

01:13:38   somebody's going to go on the weather [TS]

01:13:39   channel go uh every upside to break in [TS]

01:13:43   place by literally raining everywhere [TS]

01:13:46   it's literally raining every time [TS]

01:13:47   there's actually a 100-percent percent [TS]

01:13:49   chance of rain because it's literally [TS]

01:13:50   raining everywhere and this is [TS]

01:13:52   meteorological e impossible [TS]

01:13:55   so where where we're going to the [TS]

01:13:57   computers right now and we'll get back [TS]

01:13:59   to you in a minute right Peter Jennings [TS]

01:14:01   is like wait a minute [TS]

01:14:03   yeah stop the presses still how easy he [TS]

01:14:06   might be dead but I remember Peter [TS]

01:14:08   Jennings during 911 I'd like to see [TS]

01:14:10   Peter Jennings doing doing 40 days of [TS]

01:14:13   rain coverage see it's like a reverse [TS]

01:14:15   Ted Koppel did you watch him during the [TS]

01:14:17   during the 911 [TS]

01:14:18   I i lucked upon him i chanced upon him [TS]

01:14:21   as I was switching through the channels [TS]

01:14:24   and he did he was the greatest American [TS]

01:14:26   even though he's a Canadian yeah he was [TS]

01:14:28   the greatest American all Americans now [TS]

01:14:30   he was straight he's very calm very [TS]

01:14:31   centered very solemn but he wasn't being [TS]

01:14:34   overly dramatic and he was not full of [TS]

01:14:36   shit like everybody else was and at a [TS]

01:14:38   certain point i don't know if you [TS]

01:14:39   remember this and I wish that I I've [TS]

01:14:41   never good talking on the day on the day [TS]

01:14:43   on the day when I felt like by 10 that [TS]

01:14:45   morning our time it felt like literally [TS]

01:14:47   anything could happen [TS]

01:14:48   yeah and it didn't also was like will [TS]

01:14:50   somebody take charge of the situation [TS]

01:14:52   there's no way I mean I mean I just have [TS]

01:14:56   that I remember that feeling my wife [TS]

01:14:57   while i was working at home in those [TS]

01:15:00   days and my boss called unlike now I [TS]

01:15:03   have an office [TS]

01:15:05   right quote unquote work but that was 7 [TS]

01:15:08   something the morning you wake up you [TS]

01:15:10   got your watch like a holy shit this [TS]

01:15:11   doesn't look like an accident and then [TS]

01:15:14   you here like this stuff going on in [TS]

01:15:15   Pennsylvania etc and then when the other [TS]

01:15:17   plane hit the tower you're like okay [TS]

01:15:20   literally anything could happen right [TS]

01:15:22   now you cannot make a plausible movie of [TS]

01:15:24   this there's no way that this could [TS]

01:15:26   actually be happening so i slept til ten [TS]

01:15:28   o'clock in the morning that morning yeah [TS]

01:15:30   and then I woke up to my mom sitting on [TS]

01:15:33   my bed which never happened oh my god [TS]

01:15:35   with her hand on my knee which never [TS]

01:15:38   happened and I was like what is going on [TS]

01:15:41   if you get your dad no worse sigh who [TS]

01:15:45   knows what would present what would [TS]

01:15:47   prompt my mom to wake me up and she said [TS]

01:15:50   I said she's an infection by sitting on [TS]

01:15:52   my bed be and touching my knee see all [TS]

01:15:56   right what is time pretty familiar [TS]

01:15:59   she said I have bad news man shit she [TS]

01:16:03   was like somebody flew two planes into [TS]

01:16:08   the World Trade Center and blew them up [TS]

01:16:10   and was like I had just returned from [TS]

01:16:12   New York right I'd been at the top of [TS]

01:16:13   the world trade center on august 30th [TS]

01:16:15   i've been i've been in seattle for a [TS]

01:16:19   week [TS]

01:16:19   remember that elevator your ears to pop [TS]

01:16:21   on the LA right so yeah it was a [TS]

01:16:23   fast-moving elevator for them but it [TS]

01:16:26   took minutes when i was there letter 89 [TS]

01:16:28   it's just it's like there's no way this [TS]

01:16:29   elevator i could be this loan is very [TS]

01:16:31   tall built [TS]

01:16:32   yeah so she turns on the TV and there's [TS]

01:16:35   one tower on the TV smoking and one [TS]

01:16:39   tower standing and I was like what are [TS]

01:16:41   you talking about mom that's that's one [TS]

01:16:43   plane and she said no I've seen this [TS]

01:16:45   footage over and over by now just watch [TS]

01:16:48   and then because they're replaying over [TS]

01:16:50   and over and over again so it was so she [TS]

01:16:55   like she had already taken the sting she [TS]

01:17:01   already somewhat like spoiler alert of [TS]

01:17:03   me before I actually saw it so I didn't [TS]

01:17:06   see it in real time I i got the I got [TS]

01:17:08   the CliffsNotes and then I was right but [TS]

01:17:11   Peter Jennings at one point said as he [TS]

01:17:14   was reporting that President Bush and [TS]

01:17:17   his entourage [TS]

01:17:18   were mysteriously just flying in circles [TS]

01:17:22   around America I don't know if you [TS]

01:17:23   remember I do [TS]

01:17:25   he just got everything that the thing [TS]

01:17:26   that I'm going to beat this to death but [TS]

01:17:28   the thing that you can overstate is that [TS]

01:17:30   when the first one happened you're like [TS]

01:17:32   this is the craziest news of the last 20 [TS]

01:17:34   years or whatever you did a plane [TS]

01:17:35   because of first you're going there's no [TS]

01:17:37   way that's what happened [TS]

01:17:38   there's no way that eighth plane because [TS]

01:17:40   the things you need to know a lot about [TS]

01:17:42   aeronautics in aviation it's pretty hard [TS]

01:17:45   to hit a building with a plane there for [TS]

01:17:47   them it's pretty well the first one even [TS]

01:17:49   the first one that's happening you're [TS]

01:17:50   like and the reports are coming up and [TS]

01:17:52   we're not sure where dick cheney is all [TS]

01:17:53   this stuff going on and and even in that [TS]

01:17:55   is that period and then the other one [TS]

01:17:57   hit [TS]

01:17:58   is that the one that like with a blue [TS]

01:17:59   the hole through yeah and you're just [TS]

01:18:01   like wait a minute there's gotta be a [TS]

01:18:03   mistake [TS]

01:18:03   that's got to be an error there's no way [TS]

01:18:05   that happened twice [TS]

01:18:06   yeah and now course you can always used [TS]

01:18:08   to think about it ruminate on people as [TS]

01:18:09   it was happening [TS]

01:18:10   it felt like the most demanding you [TS]

01:18:11   start hearing reports of other things [TS]

01:18:13   happening and you're like a night [TS]

01:18:14   remember very distinctly by noon that [TS]

01:18:15   day thinking fucking anything could [TS]

01:18:18   happen today if we found out those is [TS]

01:18:20   that this was like I mean I'm not trying [TS]

01:18:22   to sound glib but like we found out [TS]

01:18:24   there was some kind of like bizarre [TS]

01:18:25   virus or alien invasion at this point i [TS]

01:18:27   would not be that surprised or if you [TS]

01:18:29   turn on the TV and you're like Houston [TS]

01:18:30   was just destroyed it in a nuclear [TS]

01:18:32   explosion [TS]

01:18:33   every time I saw playing for two or [TS]

01:18:35   three weeks cuz then there's the thing [TS]

01:18:37   all now the golden gate bridge is gonna [TS]

01:18:38   be next time getting course they all [TS]

01:18:39   look like bombs didn't everything all [TS]

01:18:41   use I would hear a plane and I would [TS]

01:18:43   have to look out there and I wasn't even [TS]

01:18:44   traumatized by this in the way that you [TS]

01:18:46   know me and my friends in other places [TS]

01:18:48   where I didn't have the personal [TS]

01:18:49   experience of this but I just do for a [TS]

01:18:51   few weeks you're like who fucking knows [TS]

01:18:52   what's gonna happen yeah they look like [TS]

01:18:54   Peter sorry Peter Jennings so a one [TS]

01:18:56   point in the in the late afternoon he [TS]

01:18:59   gets visibly frustrated on air and says [TS]

01:19:02   when will the president make a statement [TS]

01:19:06   or in some way take charge of the [TS]

01:19:08   situation because the president needs to [TS]

01:19:11   appear now it isn't was in hiding not [TS]

01:19:16   having but you know it's been hours are [TS]

01:19:17   cutting hours and the Vice President is [TS]

01:19:20   in an undisclosed location but the [TS]

01:19:22   president is just flying around in the [TS]

01:19:24   sky and making no public statement and [TS]

01:19:28   he was like it was shocking how [TS]

01:19:32   how visibly frustrated he was and how [TS]

01:19:34   much he was speaking the truth from in [TS]

01:19:37   his own voice on the air and it and it [TS]

01:19:41   was it was the moment that I realized [TS]

01:19:43   that George W Bush was a chicken shit [TS]

01:19:45   and that everything he did subsequent to [TS]

01:19:48   that moment was a chickenshit move like [TS]

01:19:50   I lost through Peter Jennings eyes I [TS]

01:19:54   realized that george bush was was a [TS]

01:19:56   chicken shit and he should never have [TS]

01:19:57   been elected president he should never [TS]

01:19:58   have survived his teen years and I still [TS]

01:20:03   have a space for him down the vote i [TS]

01:20:07   still have I still have a bed when you [TS]

01:20:09   walk by sometimes little room number six [TS]

01:20:11   and think I'm still only boy three [TS]

01:20:13   squares in a chair veto because we're [TS]

01:20:19   gonna find out the depth of his chicken [TS]

01:20:21   shitted who but that that way your best [TS]

01:20:24   buddy your bed starts drinking buddy [TS]

01:20:26   welfare [TS]

01:20:27   what does know the dimensions of your [TS]

01:20:29   room start being a little bit more week [TS]

01:20:31   our now.com you did you know that i own [TS]

01:20:45   an undisclosed location com no shh [TS]