Roderick on the Line

Ep. 197: "Diamond Holes"


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00:00:20   hello hi John [TS]

00:00:23   hi Merlin how's it going pretty good [TS]

00:00:26   it's very good but a while since we've [TS]

00:00:28   talked [TS]

00:00:29   yeah yeah we usually record on mondays [TS]

00:00:33   like clockwork [TS]

00:00:35   it's like clockwork although it wasn't [TS]

00:00:36   always wasn't we recorded on tuesdays i [TS]

00:00:42   think at one point [TS]

00:00:43   yeah we're pretty clockwork hear you [TS]

00:00:45   where we are in episode 197 of the show [TS]

00:00:50   you're kidding me that's like flirty [TS]

00:00:52   that's like 13,000 hours [TS]

00:00:53   what does that mean does it mean when we [TS]

00:00:55   get to 200 what's going to happen [TS]

00:00:57   okay enough with the odometer I don't [TS]

00:00:59   know I feel like a 2200 be one of us [TS]

00:01:02   should die 100 in some kind of fiery car [TS]

00:01:06   wreck and then then it's just whatever [TS]

00:01:08   it's just complete you know like it's [TS]

00:01:10   just a it's a box you say maybe you and [TS]

00:01:12   me we do a film & Louise [TS]

00:01:14   yeah when people love that you're pretty [TS]

00:01:17   good driver [TS]

00:01:18   uh yeah we stupid slowly direct the RV [TS]

00:01:22   off a cliff [TS]

00:01:23   almost there to hunt on hundred ninety [TS]

00:01:31   seven episodes that's really something [TS]

00:01:34   that's that's the best news I've had all [TS]

00:01:36   day [TS]

00:01:36   no I'm so glad it's good to hear your [TS]

00:01:38   voice yeah it's nice to hear your voice [TS]

00:01:40   whoo alright tell ya I'm back you know I [TS]

00:01:45   yeah let's talk about ya back [TS]

00:01:47   yeah that's true that's true mom's [TS]

00:01:49   spaghetti uh-huh [TS]

00:01:52   the whole incident that that's the last [TS]

00:01:55   episode really set me back to some old [TS]

00:01:57   eighties wrap em oh did you did you go [TS]

00:02:00   through a little mode we know we've [TS]

00:02:02   talked about Falco and I guess Falco was [TS]

00:02:06   kind of slightly famous for the original [TS]

00:02:09   german version of their commissar yeah [TS]

00:02:11   thank you when Falco three came out you [TS]

00:02:13   know my friend DJ maybe a cassette maybe [TS]

00:02:16   a little maxell it had Falco three on [TS]

00:02:19   one side and whatever the breakthrough [TS]

00:02:22   Robert Palmer album was on the 001 was [TS]

00:02:24   addicted to love and all yeah yeah yeah [TS]

00:02:26   and boy it will that be 1984 I think [TS]

00:02:30   happened oh man that was the soundtrack [TS]

00:02:32   for me [TS]

00:02:32   putting that in putting that in the [TS]

00:02:35   jetta no i'm sorry the the rabbit didn't [TS]

00:02:38   even have a car and put in other [TS]

00:02:39   people's car when DJ's LeBaron Vienna [TS]

00:02:42   calling the LeBaron that was a quiet you [TS]

00:02:45   know that had Corinthian leather always [TS]

00:02:47   at the one [TS]

00:02:48   yeah the Chrysler Cordoba all the [TS]

00:02:50   Cordoba had Corinthian leather but you [TS]

00:02:52   know the LeBaron was built on the same [TS]

00:02:56   platform maybe yeah yeah yeah don't get [TS]

00:02:59   too deep into the Chrysler a markay [TS]

00:03:02   you're gonna get a set from the French [TS]

00:03:04   yeah now you're gonna get letters you're [TS]

00:03:07   gonna get letters from the Chrysler fans [TS]

00:03:08   remember the k-car around terrible that [TS]

00:03:10   was you know I used to pick a car [TS]

00:03:12   obviously for those of us who lived [TS]

00:03:14   through that time the k-car was right [TS]

00:03:16   about a universal joke an example of [TS]

00:03:19   like the shitty car [TS]

00:03:21   I mean that's like how long did they [TS]

00:03:22   take on that name the cake are used to [TS]

00:03:25   have with cars like like you have a [TS]

00:03:26   charger or a barracuda or a comet and [TS]

00:03:30   now this is the end k cart slice the [TS]

00:03:32   cake card special k but I had a friend [TS]

00:03:35   whose father was a bush pilot and their [TS]

00:03:40   old car was like a 1968 Jeep pickup a [TS]

00:03:45   which was like it's probably the [TS]

00:03:50   burliest it was just 11 increment below [TS]

00:03:55   being a military-grade truck you know it [TS]

00:03:58   was a it was a it was huge [TS]

00:04:00   it's not what we think of is as cheap [TS]

00:04:02   scale it was like sort of vietnam-era [TS]

00:04:04   jeep a half her like three-quarter-ton [TS]

00:04:09   pickup and and he only referred to it he [TS]

00:04:14   he never pronounce the J it was always [TS]

00:04:16   the eep eep eep but his father at one [TS]

00:04:21   point I decided to get a new car and he [TS]

00:04:24   bought a cake are a k-car wagon out here [TS]

00:04:28   and always laughing stock haha cake our [TS]

00:04:33   wagon law [TS]

00:04:34   oh no this is awful but they have panels [TS]

00:04:38   and didn't have panels it was even it [TS]

00:04:41   was even lower grade than that and it [TS]

00:04:43   had [TS]

00:04:43   manual transmission which I i challenge [TS]

00:04:47   you to find a k-car well first of all I [TS]

00:04:50   can't you find a k-car that still [TS]

00:04:52   survives [TS]

00:04:53   uh-huh but find one with a manual [TS]

00:04:55   transmission even at the time it was [TS]

00:04:56   like you get in the car to go what the [TS]

00:04:58   hell is that what is that by that time [TS]

00:05:00   and I mean I feel like the only reason [TS]

00:05:02   to buy a manual at that point was just [TS]

00:05:05   like save a hundred bucks [TS]

00:05:06   mhm honest yeah this guy is he was going [TS]

00:05:09   down the he was going down that the [TS]

00:05:11   sheet he was just not taking any box now [TS]

00:05:14   I don't want the undercoating no I don't [TS]

00:05:16   want the I don't want the cloth uh you [TS]

00:05:19   know the the cloth on the inside I don't [TS]

00:05:22   want the cup I don't want to comment or [TS]

00:05:24   I don't want our clock they put that on [TS]

00:05:26   the fact that sucks my manager him know [TS]

00:05:28   all that true clothes to go right [TS]

00:05:31   um but but then you get in the thing and [TS]

00:05:35   and it was like this totally wine d like [TS]

00:05:39   zippy crazy little I mean it felt like [TS]

00:05:43   you were driving a shoebox but but that [TS]

00:05:46   the manual transmission just brought [TS]

00:05:47   alive and all of a sudden you know he [TS]

00:05:49   was beating like scirocco za off the [TS]

00:05:51   line in this cake car and he drove the [TS]

00:05:54   the the crap out of it but but it it was [TS]

00:05:59   like at GTI level of acceleration in in [TS]

00:06:02   1984 wow and i had to say you know what [TS]

00:06:07   k car respect I can't up it but I can't [TS]

00:06:11   say shit about cars anymore and I don't [TS]

00:06:13   even know what we're do you direct your [TS]

00:06:16   ire at that point [TS]

00:06:17   yeah the Pacer that's not even a [TS]

00:06:19   contemporary thing anymore [TS]

00:06:21   yeah yeah you know i'm looking at this [TS]

00:06:24   now and I mean at the time it struck him [TS]

00:06:26   struck me as very much an American car [TS]

00:06:28   but looking at it now I mean I'm not a [TS]

00:06:30   car guy but it looks a lot like a cheap [TS]

00:06:33   toyota corolla or something yeah it was [TS]

00:06:37   it was there it was their import killer [TS]

00:06:39   remember how every every third car was [TS]

00:06:42   like all this this one's the import [TS]

00:06:44   killer for all those years people buying [TS]

00:06:46   these crappy Japanese car you really [TS]

00:06:48   want this old-world American craftsmen [TS]

00:06:50   shots right this one this is the one you [TS]

00:06:52   know it gets gets good gas mileage this [TS]

00:06:55   one and [TS]

00:06:56   and it's gonna kill all those Japanese [TS]

00:06:59   cars pouring into our shores didn't [TS]

00:07:03   didn't kill them didn't kill I remember [TS]

00:07:05   always thinking because because we were [TS]

00:07:06   cheap in these matters so we would get [TS]

00:07:09   you know whatever the delco am/fm radio [TS]

00:07:12   with the buttons on it we never had [TS]

00:07:14   anything to tricked-out but I remember [TS]

00:07:15   thinking that the height of cool was [TS]

00:07:16   like having a cassette player in your [TS]

00:07:18   car [TS]

00:07:19   no you know he's putting you put it you [TS]

00:07:22   like it laughing we're going like [TS]

00:07:23   sideways remember that course when I got [TS]

00:07:26   my VW bus one of the first things I did [TS]

00:07:29   was I went to the the audio place and [TS]

00:07:31   have to put a little sony sony stereo in [TS]

00:07:33   it [TS]

00:07:34   yeah because you wanted to live but of [TS]

00:07:36   course it was a VW so the windows leaked [TS]

00:07:38   and the speaker's got all crackly did [TS]

00:07:40   the engine ever catch on fire [TS]

00:07:41   it's kind of like that's kind of [TS]

00:07:43   signature signature moment I told you I [TS]

00:07:45   told you I didn't change the oil enough [TS]

00:07:46   and seized up [TS]

00:07:47   yeah no tragedy I'm reading here the [TS]

00:07:49   Chrysler K car platform they made them [TS]

00:07:52   in all wheel drive which I have no way [TS]

00:07:57   so look looking down here at the [TS]

00:07:58   possible options you could get a 3.8 [TS]

00:08:01   liter v8 or arms or v6 still a big motor [TS]

00:08:06   you could get you your four-wheel drive [TS]

00:08:09   there's even a four door limousine [TS]

00:08:12   alright like that i had there was a [TS]

00:08:15   convertible like I don't know where that [TS]

00:08:17   is 2.2 litre turbo for turbo for that [TS]

00:08:23   they put a mitsubishi motors in at one [TS]

00:08:25   point [TS]

00:08:25   come on this was a hell of a car now [TS]

00:08:28   that I'm seeing it I just think a cars [TS]

00:08:30   as being I mean you know they're even [TS]

00:08:33   then kind of famously generic but also [TS]

00:08:35   it was always the drivers that car [TS]

00:08:37   oh right so we have memories are about [TS]

00:08:41   being like stuck in a car of course it [TS]

00:08:43   had no air-conditioning because they [TS]

00:08:44   wouldn't pay for that and you're stuck [TS]

00:08:45   in there with a bunch of teenagers [TS]

00:08:46   waiting to drive you know I worked up [TS]

00:08:49   the i worked as a canvasser on on the [TS]

00:08:54   the for the public interest research [TS]

00:08:57   group or pirg are you kidding that was [TS]

00:09:00   almost my first grown-up job working in [TS]

00:09:02   Boston [TS]

00:09:03   yeah i was i worked in Washington DC for [TS]

00:09:06   going on w fw part where they call it [TS]

00:09:08   was us pirg [TS]

00:09:09   this part and then it was sort of the [TS]

00:09:13   era of the the campaign to pass the [TS]

00:09:16   Clean Air Act em and support the Clean [TS]

00:09:19   Air Act Clean Water Act we were working [TS]

00:09:22   on a lot of Acts sure just like the [TS]

00:09:25   Apostle Paul we had a lot of axe to [TS]

00:09:27   grind down and so I moved over to the [TS]

00:09:32   National Environmental Law Center still [TS]

00:09:35   working kind of as a at that point a [TS]

00:09:36   canvas manager i wasn't i was wrangling [TS]

00:09:40   Canvassers that was the that was the [TS]

00:09:42   opportunity that i had to chauffeur [TS]

00:09:44   ralph nader around one afternoon that's [TS]

00:09:48   right we should remind listeners that [TS]

00:09:50   you had a rough period [TS]

00:09:51   yeah and that I during those days we [TS]

00:09:56   were driving k cars right like in the [TS]

00:09:58   morning we would have a big meeting [TS]

00:10:00   would be 80 kids all in the you know [TS]

00:10:04   we'd get it pumped up everybody had [TS]

00:10:06   their clipboard it was like all right [TS]

00:10:07   let's go out there and fight for the [TS]

00:10:09   environment and get the world the water [TS]

00:10:11   on the air and the eagles in America go [TS]

00:10:14   one time a the the Kennedy the Kennedy [TS]

00:10:21   that had read kind of red curly hair [TS]

00:10:24   mmm he didn't he didn't look like a [TS]

00:10:26   Kennedy in the same way that Sonny [TS]

00:10:28   didn't look like a core leone oh sure [TS]

00:10:31   you know what I mean like guys not [TS]

00:10:33   really even Italian [TS]

00:10:35   mm how did he get the how was he doing [TS]

00:10:38   he's got the undershirt but the hair [TS]

00:10:40   doesn't match the hair does imagine that [TS]

00:10:42   there's that there's the one Kennedy [TS]

00:10:43   that's like this it was the son of [TS]

00:10:46   robert maybe I think it needs were not [TS]

00:10:48   above putting somebody in an attic no no [TS]

00:10:51   that's right but this he was a [TS]

00:10:52   charismatic guy he was a congressman [TS]

00:10:54   right which one was he George Kennedy [TS]

00:10:57   know you got blue net heat red Kennedy [TS]

00:11:01   know make a 50x but he this Kennedy came [TS]

00:11:06   one morning [TS]

00:11:08   ok so it's so great if it turned out all [TS]

00:11:11   along George Kennedy was like part of [TS]

00:11:13   like a whole Hyannisport uh-huh [TS]

00:11:15   crowd yeah the whole time [TS]

00:11:19   uh let's see uh what was his name this [TS]

00:11:23   is gonna drive me crazy and I'm ziana is [TS]

00:11:27   it is an environmental Kennedy he was a [TS]

00:11:30   yes he was an environmental Kennedy he [TS]

00:11:34   was a up-and-coming Kennedy was a young [TS]

00:11:36   Kennedy Jesus and I'm getting there [TS]

00:11:41   ok i'm on the Kennedy family tree who he [TS]

00:11:43   be a sibling of move let's see here this [TS]

00:11:48   is it was it Joe Kennedy young Joe [TS]

00:11:51   Kennedy Joe Kennedy no I think young Joe [TS]

00:11:53   was the one who died in that horrible [TS]

00:11:54   accident [TS]

00:11:56   well young Joe had red hair noe's Joe [TS]

00:11:59   John Rose Kathleen Eunice Patricia Bobby [TS]

00:12:04   gene and Ed otherwise known as Ted know [TS]

00:12:10   Ethel Skakel no was an apple [TS]

00:12:14   anyway william cavendish mark with [TS]

00:12:17   partington maybe maybe his maybe you [TS]

00:12:20   know he married mary kathleen know it [TS]

00:12:22   could have been it could've been liev [TS]

00:12:24   schreiber and i always get them [TS]

00:12:27   liev schreiber sargent shriver it's a [TS]

00:12:29   common mistake anyway he came by one is [TS]

00:12:32   not a cold day would you love to be [TS]

00:12:33   named sergeant Shriver sargent shriver [TS]

00:12:35   well that's the thing about wasps right [TS]

00:12:37   they have the craziest names people with [TS]

00:12:40   the first name [TS]

00:12:41   mcgeorge what how do you enjoy the money [TS]

00:12:43   what a terrific name how do you get the [TS]

00:12:45   name mcgeorge is all they all have [TS]

00:12:46   terrific name's George George come in [TS]

00:12:49   now [TS]

00:12:51   ok here we go we got sons of God sons of [TS]

00:12:53   Ted no guys not a sign of Ted not a sign [TS]

00:12:56   of Ted okay so you got a Robert Shriver [TS]

00:13:02   William Kennedy Smith know he was a bad [TS]

00:13:05   guy William Kennedy Smith he was a he [TS]

00:13:07   was a date rape / always hear that [TS]

00:13:09   George magazine guy is always that which [TS]

00:13:11   magazine was was a John FK junior right [TS]

00:13:15   John John John John uh-huh right [TS]

00:13:18   no let's see here he was he was tall he [TS]

00:13:22   was charismatic just to be clear I'm [TS]

00:13:23   fine taking literally an hour to have to [TS]

00:13:25   do this [TS]

00:13:25   hi I'm just really enjoying the Kennedy [TS]

00:13:27   family tree right now I feel like he was [TS]

00:13:30   you know he came in he at the kennedy [TS]

00:13:32   smile but he looked a little bit like [TS]

00:13:34   Sonny Corleone e I it was nineteen [TS]

00:13:38   ninety he was in office he was in office [TS]

00:13:41   at the time he was he you know I'm [TS]

00:13:46   seeing now how many redheaded Kennedy's [TS]

00:13:48   there are if you want to if you want to [TS]

00:13:50   really talk about redheaded Kennedy's [TS]

00:13:53   yeah no ideal ideal anyway he came by so [TS]

00:13:57   we were driving k cars a lot at that [TS]

00:13:59   time and I came about was this is after [TS]

00:14:02   the alaska court William Kennedy Smith [TS]

00:14:04   no no we talked about William Kennedy [TS]

00:14:07   Smith already that's not him I'm sorry [TS]

00:14:08   was I was confusing him with patrick [TS]

00:14:11   patrick joseph kennedy patrick joe' if [TS]

00:14:13   can have a glass of Kennedy let's talk [TS]

00:14:15   about Patrick I think it was Pat Kennedy [TS]

00:14:17   Patrick always his idea to kind of like [TS]

00:14:21   guide [TS]

00:14:21   yeah yeah that but that's him oh no no [TS]

00:14:26   no that's not know he's younger than I [TS]

00:14:28   am he looks a he looks it looks like a [TS]

00:14:31   Kennedy a little flesh easier than a [TS]

00:14:32   typical Kennedy and somebody works for [TS]

00:14:34   Kennedy yeah yeah but then when he when [TS]

00:14:38   he starts when he starts pounding on the [TS]

00:14:40   table you're like are there it is [TS]

00:14:42   uh-huh there's the Kennedy him you know [TS]

00:14:44   you know I the Kennedys have played in [TS]

00:14:47   an outsized role probably in all of our [TS]

00:14:49   lives but in my family's life i think [TS]

00:14:51   the Kennedys were always a what were [TS]

00:14:55   they they were always about a shadow [TS]

00:14:57   that came across the land to Who I am [TS]

00:15:00   for a lot of reasons [TS]

00:15:02   yeah a lot I mean honestly I mean you [TS]

00:15:04   know there's all you [TS]

00:15:05   we know you grew up with friends you're [TS]

00:15:08   Catholic friends I have like pictures of [TS]

00:15:09   Kennedy and the Pope in the house right [TS]

00:15:11   that does the thing that was actually a [TS]

00:15:12   thing [TS]

00:15:13   and there's a whole sense of like the [TS]

00:15:15   camelot thing there's the sense of like [TS]

00:15:16   what was lost with that but there's also [TS]

00:15:18   that sense of like why can't our family [TS]

00:15:20   be like this right we're so close and [TS]

00:15:24   yet so far they're just they're just [TS]

00:15:26   Americans just like us who they didn't [TS]

00:15:29   you know they're not royalty how did [TS]

00:15:31   they come to be royalty [TS]

00:15:32   you gotta really be willing to rig an [TS]

00:15:34   election you gotta pay off some southern [TS]

00:15:36   sheriff's that helps a lot and you gotta [TS]

00:15:39   yeah you have to you know what it is [TS]

00:15:40   there so much in life that is the [TS]

00:15:42   product of just ambition which is a [TS]

00:15:45   thing that you either have a lot of a [TS]

00:15:49   medium amount of none so what it takes [TS]

00:15:53   to Scott your ambition you can be [TS]

00:15:54   somebody who has a lot of ambition but [TS]

00:15:57   yeah if you get Scott easily then take [TS]

00:15:59   it kind of ties like a campfire [TS]

00:16:01   I like that Scott your ambitions [TS]

00:16:03   catching the ambition I I think about [TS]

00:16:06   ambition all the time I think about my [TS]

00:16:08   own ambition I think about other [TS]

00:16:09   people's ambition you know you read that [TS]

00:16:11   you open those magazines and it's like [TS]

00:16:13   100 young people under 100 all those are [TS]

00:16:16   really getting under my skin John and [TS]

00:16:18   you go all right let's see what's going [TS]

00:16:20   on here and it's like well 80 of these [TS]

00:16:21   had rich parents but uh some of these [TS]

00:16:24   people really did say never say die [TS]

00:16:27   yep and you go and nobody even really [TS]

00:16:29   encouraging them know we still work [TS]

00:16:32   really hard they did this stuff that [TS]

00:16:33   they needed to do they eventually got [TS]

00:16:35   recognized but didn't even have a big [TS]

00:16:37   impact there's no wonder it's another [TS]

00:16:38   thing [TS]

00:16:39   yeah yeah yeah they're just go go let's [TS]

00:16:41   let's you know deep deep deep and I [TS]

00:16:44   admire and I feel like it's I feel like [TS]

00:16:47   it's another it's another trait like [TS]

00:16:48   being able to throw a javelin hmm and we [TS]

00:16:52   we all know not to we watch the person [TS]

00:16:55   throw the javelin on the Olympics and [TS]

00:16:57   you and you say wow that's great [TS]

00:17:00   I but very few people say I wish I could [TS]

00:17:03   do that and almost no one measures their [TS]

00:17:06   measures the theirselves themselves or [TS]

00:17:09   their performance against the Olympic [TS]

00:17:11   javelin thrower like right I'm i'm not a [TS]

00:17:15   javelin thrower I work in an office like [TS]

00:17:18   a right that but to have a corresponding [TS]

00:17:21   like a trait that's that's maybe [TS]

00:17:26   just as as unusual or just as much a [TS]

00:17:30   kind of not a product of environment not [TS]

00:17:35   a question of how you were raised or [TS]

00:17:36   educated but just something that you [TS]

00:17:38   came onto this planet pre equipped with [TS]

00:17:41   to sit in your basement laboratory and [TS]

00:17:45   work on a thing until you have devised [TS]

00:17:47   something as universally life-changing [TS]

00:17:51   as the segway or you know like what like [TS]

00:17:56   somebody who just as a single-minded [TS]

00:17:58   dedication to either science or or [TS]

00:18:01   business or whatever but we all we all [TS]

00:18:04   kind of measure ourselves against those [TS]

00:18:07   people right and you know in search our [TS]

00:18:11   history and search ourselves like why [TS]

00:18:13   did I not why am i not capable of this [TS]

00:18:16   level of achievement but I really do I [TS]

00:18:20   really do suspect that it's that it's a [TS]

00:18:23   that it's a trait kind of like almost [TS]

00:18:25   like the color of your eyes [TS]

00:18:27   I don't know but you know like like not [TS]

00:18:31   to not to dive too deeply into this but [TS]

00:18:33   like you were in san francisco at the at [TS]

00:18:36   the you know through the whole boom [TS]

00:18:39   you knew all those guys they respected [TS]

00:18:41   you and loved you and you know you were [TS]

00:18:44   like you were like a a person unknown [TS]

00:18:50   person in that time but you didn't and [TS]

00:18:53   it's not like you were it's not like you [TS]

00:18:55   were any less brilliant but you didn't [TS]

00:18:59   you didn't decide to make an appt count [TS]

00:19:01   all right I didn't actually realize in [TS]

00:19:04   the chief well are just like you didn't [TS]

00:19:06   student super achieve there are so many [TS]

00:19:09   so many of those people that were just [TS]

00:19:11   kind of wandering around the same chat [TS]

00:19:13   rooms that you were who are like you [TS]

00:19:15   know what you know what we need right [TS]

00:19:17   now is an app that or you know were [TS]

00:19:19   invented the app or invented the word [TS]

00:19:20   blog or whatever [TS]

00:19:22   yeah buddy you know the other thing [TS]

00:19:24   about I like your javelin example [TS]

00:19:25   because I think that's somewhat [TS]

00:19:27   indicative of why this becomes [TS]

00:19:28   complicated like you [TS]

00:19:30   you've met you had good hamburgers and [TS]

00:19:32   bad hamburgers in your life in any given [TS]

00:19:34   month you've probably had a handful of [TS]

00:19:35   hamburgers because this was really good [TS]

00:19:37   this one is not the problem is your only [TS]

00:19:39   probably aware of like one javelin [TS]

00:19:40   person and that's somebody using the [TS]

00:19:42   Olympics and see my look at javelin and [TS]

00:19:44   go okay that's the thing i could do or [TS]

00:19:45   like Fonzie with the snatching the coins [TS]

00:19:47   office arm you know [TS]

00:19:48   uh-huh si III disagree somewhat in that [TS]

00:19:51   I would often see an obscure talent on [TS]

00:19:53   TV and then think this is gonna be my [TS]

00:19:55   ticket and for a while I thought it was [TS]

00:19:57   stashing coins off my arm haha really i [TS]

00:20:00   was a child right did you try that for a [TS]

00:20:03   long time [TS]

00:20:04   come on we got some rolls of pennies and [TS]

00:20:05   I unrolled them and then I would see how [TS]

00:20:07   many i could do and how what's your [TS]

00:20:10   what's your top top run i don't remember [TS]

00:20:13   i just pennies scattering all over the [TS]

00:20:16   living room well I'm and now I'm also [TS]

00:20:20   just perplexed by the idea that somebody [TS]

00:20:21   wrote an episode of happy days that was [TS]

00:20:23   mostly about snatching coins off your [TS]

00:20:25   elbow [TS]

00:20:25   well you remember that was this the jump [TS]

00:20:28   the shark air this was doing I don't you [TS]

00:20:31   know this might be a fever dream john [TS]

00:20:32   i'm pretty sure there was an episode of [TS]

00:20:34   happy and I don't even think it was like [TS]

00:20:36   an eighties happy days i think it was [TS]

00:20:38   still while she was wearing a white [TS]

00:20:39   shirt i could be wrong but there [TS]

00:20:41   whatsoever i was in ohio i do remember [TS]

00:20:43   this and there was an episode that [TS]

00:20:44   involved the ability to stack a bunch of [TS]

00:20:48   coins that basically imagine that you're [TS]

00:20:50   bending your arm so that your palm is [TS]

00:20:52   almost on your shoulder facing up your [TS]

00:20:54   forearms parallel with the ground you [TS]

00:20:56   stack coins just above where your elbow [TS]

00:20:59   would be and then you go snap and you [TS]

00:21:02   see how many coins you can grab off of [TS]

00:21:03   your elbow using your hand [TS]

00:21:05   oh oh yeah I was always got involved in [TS]

00:21:07   a competition about this is what I [TS]

00:21:10   remember somebody wrote that somebody [TS]

00:21:12   somebody spit balling that this could be [TS]

00:21:13   cocaine this could very easily be [TS]

00:21:15   cocaine [TS]

00:21:15   it seems to me that this was this was [TS]

00:21:17   one of those things where you're sitting [TS]

00:21:18   around here like we got to come up with [TS]

00:21:20   an episode we got to come up with [TS]

00:21:21   another thing that's like what can you [TS]

00:21:23   what can you do Henry Winkler and he's [TS]

00:21:25   like well i mean i can stick a cigarette [TS]

00:21:27   my nose they're like I don't think so [TS]

00:21:30   have you ever seen this and he like snap [TS]

00:21:32   the you know did this that the coins [TS]

00:21:35   they were like that's it you know ok [TS]

00:21:37   I've found a clip on youtube its back [TS]

00:21:41   there still in Arnolds are funsies [TS]

00:21:43   in the white t-shirt has not moved the [TS]

00:21:45   black t-shirt the slimming black t-shirt [TS]

00:21:46   so still in the white t-shirt and it [TS]

00:21:50   looks like only a look at here's a video [TS]

00:21:51   of henry winkler doing the trick today [TS]

00:21:53   look at that you can still do it i guess [TS]

00:21:55   so he seems like a very gifted guy but [TS]

00:22:00   now I for those of you at home who were [TS]

00:22:03   shouting at me about the Kennedys it was [TS]

00:22:07   Joe Kennedy to electric bill that he was [TS]

00:22:13   the oldest son of robert f kennedy so [TS]

00:22:16   our F K's oldest boy born and 52 which [TS]

00:22:20   means you know he was eight years old [TS]

00:22:22   when his uncle was elected president he [TS]

00:22:25   was there for the whole show you Ailee [TS]

00:22:27   given that name again Joe p Kennedy to [TS]

00:22:30   channel p0p Kennedy to tell this [TS]

00:22:35   grandson of joe p Kennedy senior huh [TS]

00:22:38   I you know I met the man he was a he was [TS]

00:22:41   he was wonderful but a and he was a he [TS]

00:22:45   was in the house of representatives and [TS]

00:22:47   this isn't even on your rhetoric Joseph [TS]

00:22:50   Kennedy to know Joseph people for the [TS]

00:22:52   love of Christ I'll have the same name [TS]

00:22:54   I know tube and then there's Kennedy p [TS]

00:22:56   Kennedy to Kennedy Kennedy the Kennedy [TS]

00:23:00   there's there's PP Kennedy with Kennedy [TS]

00:23:02   i was just reading about reading about [TS]

00:23:04   Rosemary's lobotomy you know Joe asked [TS]

00:23:06   for that Joe asked that rosemary being [TS]

00:23:07   lobotomized and he was already one he [TS]

00:23:09   regretted in the rest of his life he did [TS]

00:23:11   you know that was a fact [TS]

00:23:12   yep you know a Hodgman met kick Kennedy [TS]

00:23:17   Oh kick Kennedy Kennedy the gel second [TS]

00:23:20   dick Kennedy was at the he was a [TS]

00:23:22   p-channel Martin he was talking to [TS]

00:23:25   somebody was like wow I've got this [TS]

00:23:26   person today and and she's so dynamic [TS]

00:23:29   and so like captivating and when she was [TS]

00:23:32   so cute [TS]

00:23:33   her name was kick who was that oh this [TS]

00:23:37   is Kathleen Cavendish otherwise known as [TS]

00:23:40   kick is it a younger kick [TS]

00:23:42   well they're so yeah there's a [TS]

00:23:43   contemporary kick my goodness there's a [TS]

00:23:46   there's a millennial kick [TS]

00:23:47   oh yeah she's got the job look at her [TS]

00:23:49   yep she can be on a television program [TS]

00:23:52   gtalk he talked to her for a while not [TS]

00:23:54   realizing that she was a Kennedy and [TS]

00:23:56   came away [TS]

00:23:56   the experience thinking like wow what a [TS]

00:23:58   dynamic person and then later on [TS]

00:24:00   somebody's like oh you mean kick Kennedy [TS]

00:24:02   it was like will you buy arms Yeah right [TS]

00:24:05   right right as you know he's a Bostonian [TS]

00:24:07   right [TS]

00:24:07   Kennedy's don't I mean you know a little [TS]

00:24:11   it's not it's not a real college town [TS]

00:24:13   yeah so yeah so Joe Kennedy I didn't [TS]

00:24:17   mean to derail though what we were [TS]

00:24:19   talking about which was [TS]

00:24:22   oh right the Kennedys when I didn't look [TS]

00:24:25   like all World Records apparently the [TS]

00:24:28   the world records called coin snatching [TS]

00:24:30   and like all World Records has come a [TS]

00:24:33   long way back in 1973 and all these all [TS]

00:24:37   these are apparently held by people in [TS]

00:24:39   great britain so maybe there's something [TS]

00:24:40   about the coins they're making 73 the [TS]

00:24:43   record was 39 coins right by 1985 you [TS]

00:24:47   get up to 70 coins a man called Ian [TS]

00:24:49   Gould as of April 1993 and I don't know [TS]

00:24:52   how long ago this page is updated he's [TS]

00:24:54   got 328 coins and is an amazing photo of [TS]

00:24:57   him snatching coin [TS]

00:24:59   this is incredible but then underneath [TS]

00:25:01   it says the record for a perfect catch [TS]

00:25:03   with no drops is 100 coins also by [TS]

00:25:07   adding gold [TS]

00:25:09   okay i mean i ordered what does that [TS]

00:25:11   mean no drops twice the idea is you see [TS]

00:25:15   is spray and pray right you just use me [TS]

00:25:17   as you can you catch what you can't [TS]

00:25:18   that's that seems pretty lame well so he [TS]

00:25:21   puts five star explodes 290 coins fly [TS]

00:25:24   everywhere he catches a hundred boy talk [TS]

00:25:27   about venture capital my right but that [TS]

00:25:29   whoa [TS]

00:25:30   but but I was very impressive like 328 [TS]

00:25:33   coins how many this is this begs the [TS]

00:25:35   question how many coins can someone [TS]

00:25:38   stack on their arm as a dude that's a [TS]

00:25:40   whole different questions very [TS]

00:25:41   interesting don't think i could even [TS]

00:25:42   afford to do this done i don't think i [TS]

00:25:43   have the cash reserve to be able to even [TS]

00:25:44   attended let alone the arm strength i [TS]

00:25:47   just want ya i want to see I want to see [TS]

00:25:49   like basically the world record for the [TS]

00:25:52   number of coins a person can stack on [TS]

00:25:54   their body at any times and still be [TS]

00:25:56   standing on their feet right I don't [TS]

00:25:58   want you laying on the ground [TS]

00:25:59   how many cars you can stack want you to [TS]

00:26:01   be standing on your feet with your arms [TS]

00:26:03   spread wide presents [TS]

00:26:05   yes and then how many coins can you [TS]

00:26:07   stack on this person [TS]

00:26:09   prices for what it's worth I get the [TS]

00:26:11   feeling from looking at google images [TS]

00:26:12   Dean gould of the United Kingdom he's [TS]

00:26:14   moved on from coins now he's all about [TS]

00:26:17   catching bar coasters [TS]

00:26:20   well so yeah right there they have a [TS]

00:26:22   little bit more hang time I guess so I [TS]

00:26:25   what's crazy for me here is that this [TS]

00:26:27   world records for coin snatching has no [TS]

00:26:30   there are no hyperlinks you can't meet [TS]

00:26:33   Andrew gleed you can't talk about you [TS]

00:26:36   can't go to see Chris Redford or like [TS]

00:26:39   and you know Andrew gleed state in the [TS]

00:26:40   running all the way through the nineties [TS]

00:26:42   what if you got sick or something [TS]

00:26:43   instantly was right in the running up [TS]

00:26:45   until the early nineties you started in [TS]

00:26:47   78 and he and Dean gould we're going [TS]

00:26:49   head-to-head starting in the mid [TS]

00:26:51   eighties when the first bitcoin jump [TS]

00:26:52   happened [TS]

00:26:53   that's right oh you like 130-2 how do [TS]

00:26:54   you like 140 you really let me try 150cc [TS]

00:26:57   like us [TS]

00:26:57   yeah glee is like 151 then Google was [TS]

00:27:00   like boom 46 interface dng cleat says [TS]

00:27:03   you know it is far from done let's try [TS]

00:27:05   217 217 gleed was the first one to go [TS]

00:27:08   above 200 and then there was a prophecy [TS]

00:27:10   one day there would be one who d 248 [TS]

00:27:12   yesterday [TS]

00:27:13   Stuart may who he just he's just some [TS]

00:27:16   some some prodigy some kid that comes in [TS]

00:27:18   off the street and then probably [TS]

00:27:20   suffered an aneurysm or or ended up [TS]

00:27:23   ended up as a chess checkers gotta shake [TS]

00:27:26   ya and then gold comes back to 50 [TS]

00:27:29   forever 328 suck it [TS]

00:27:32   oh my gosh you know Stuart maybe being [TS]

00:27:34   Stuart may is a little bit like being a [TS]

00:27:36   slightly well-known podcaster well first [TS]

00:27:38   of all nobody knows who you are and in [TS]

00:27:40   2nd you have to explain why someone [TS]

00:27:41   would know who you are and that makes it [TS]

00:27:43   horribly awkward [TS]

00:27:44   alright so you did what now well here's [TS]

00:27:46   the thing is back in march of 1991 let [TS]

00:27:49   me explain is in March was around the [TS]

00:27:50   20th of Mark 1991 I put 248 coins on my [TS]

00:27:54   arm I condom okay in yesterday that's [TS]

00:27:58   your name may be uh huh [TS]

00:28:03   I'm it been given more sing higher i was [TS]

00:28:07   reading some article where it talked in [TS]

00:28:09   invariably you end up talking to the i [TS]

00:28:13   guess the same 100 people but it was [TS]

00:28:15   they were talking to a teller right uh [TS]

00:28:18   yeah of penance of Penn & Teller teller [TS]

00:28:22   to me has always been the interesting [TS]

00:28:24   one or the one that I wanted to know [TS]

00:28:25   more about probably because he didn't [TS]

00:28:27   talk and that makes you what to know [TS]

00:28:29   more but he was saying kind of this what [TS]

00:28:32   he had an origin story like like so many [TS]

00:28:35   successful people I was like I was eight [TS]

00:28:38   years old and and that they they had an [TS]

00:28:42   offer for a magic kit on the Howdy Doody [TS]

00:28:45   show and I i sent away for it with three [TS]

00:28:49   boxtops an hour you know and half a [TS]

00:28:52   pickle and they sent me the magic kit [TS]

00:28:55   and it came and it was like totally [TS]

00:28:57   shoddy and garbage it was like it was [TS]

00:29:00   like the sea monkeys except made of [TS]

00:29:04   cardboard right shut it did a trick and [TS]

00:29:07   I figured out the trick and on Christmas [TS]

00:29:09   morning I showed all my relatives the [TS]

00:29:10   trick and they all politely applauded [TS]

00:29:12   and that hooked me on magic forever and [TS]

00:29:17   you know I read those stories and I'm [TS]

00:29:18   like oh yeah i did the same thing I got [TS]

00:29:21   the magic kit from the Howdy Doody show [TS]

00:29:23   and I learned the one trick and it made [TS]

00:29:27   me want to become a consumer advocate [TS]

00:29:28   yeah I got here because the valley the [TS]

00:29:31   rough nature of magic I was like this is [TS]

00:29:33   horseshit you know I did that the trick [TS]

00:29:36   the the people in the family clapped and [TS]

00:29:38   it gave me no feeling at all like it [TS]

00:29:41   didn't it didn't fill up the void inside [TS]

00:29:43   me it just you know the thing fell apart [TS]

00:29:45   in my hands and I was like maybe I'll be [TS]

00:29:47   a lawyer you know i didn't i didn't have [TS]

00:29:50   that moment and multiple times over the [TS]

00:29:53   course of my life right a thousand times [TS]

00:29:55   I've held some Excalibur in my hands and [TS]

00:30:01   tried to pull it from the stone and half [TS]

00:30:03   the time did pull it from the stone and [TS]

00:30:06   I was like yeah it was pretty good put [TS]

00:30:08   it back in the stone for the next guy [TS]

00:30:10   yeah sure that supply thing to do to put [TS]

00:30:11   the seat down yeah what do you take this [TS]

00:30:13   Excalibur you think it's yours you just [TS]

00:30:15   leave it by the stone well with you know [TS]

00:30:17   what do you get [TS]

00:30:18   I feel like I feel like that's a little [TS]

00:30:20   rude it would be like walking up to a [TS]

00:30:22   water fountain taking a drink and turn [TS]

00:30:24   it off the wall haha sure that excalibur [TS]

00:30:28   was like I'm sure that people assume [TS]

00:30:30   this was for me but I was taking every [TS]

00:30:34   every flag I see [TS]

00:30:36   the neighborhood were using that as a [TS]

00:30:38   way of navigating around like you go up [TS]

00:30:40   to the sword in the stone you take the [TS]

00:30:42   left you know and then all of a sudden [TS]

00:30:43   the sword is gone it's like I you see [TS]

00:30:47   the stone with the kind of sword-shaped [TS]

00:30:48   told me when you get there is the [TS]

00:30:51   ultimate example of imperialism you just [TS]

00:30:54   assumed if you find something and can [TS]

00:30:56   take it it should be yours [TS]

00:30:58   sure not only that but the ability the [TS]

00:31:01   ability to steal something that used to [TS]

00:31:03   be community property huh [TS]

00:31:05   now make sure the king and make sure the [TS]

00:31:06   King right you doing I'm the king now [TS]

00:31:08   all of a sudden boom you're mr. big [TS]

00:31:10   wheel and that and I'm sure that's what [TS]

00:31:12   teller did with the with the fake magic [TS]

00:31:14   box and like everybody's pulling swords [TS]

00:31:17   from stones all around us and walking [TS]

00:31:19   out into the world like well now i'm the [TS]

00:31:20   king because I mean what it means what [TS]

00:31:22   it meant of course was that teller then [TS]

00:31:23   pursued 17 years of single-minded like [TS]

00:31:28   learning card tricks and then we're [TS]

00:31:30   making people making quarters appear in [TS]

00:31:32   people's ears right yeah and then and [TS]

00:31:35   then he's a genius and so so I'm [TS]

00:31:37   wondering what is inside me or you or [TS]

00:31:40   most people or or I guess it's a better [TS]

00:31:44   asked what is inside them where it [TS]

00:31:47   really was a switch and then they just [TS]

00:31:49   knew what they wanted to do I mean I had [TS]

00:31:52   that conversation with paul f tompkins [TS]

00:31:54   one time when I was like yeah you know [TS]

00:31:55   comedy seems like a doable thing I i [TS]

00:31:58   like to make people laugh [TS]

00:31:59   sure and my friends tell me I'm funny [TS]

00:32:01   yeah and he said I have never wanted to [TS]

00:32:03   do anything else and i have done only [TS]

00:32:04   this my entire adult life from the time [TS]

00:32:07   I was a young boy I wanted to be a [TS]

00:32:09   comedian and I pursued it [TS]

00:32:10   single-mindedly my my whole life and in [TS]

00:32:12   a way he was saying he was saying no [TS]

00:32:15   comedy is not a not a fun thing that you [TS]

00:32:17   can just do and I was like okay that's [TS]

00:32:21   received but at the same time he's [TS]

00:32:23   absolutely right right I I mean I wanted [TS]

00:32:25   to be a comedian when i was ten years [TS]

00:32:26   old but I also wanted to be an astronaut [TS]

00:32:29   and absorbed juggler whatever you also [TS]

00:32:31   like whatever it is that you do and I'm [TS]

00:32:33   trying to go too far into my other [TS]

00:32:34   persona here but part of it is also you [TS]

00:32:36   got [TS]

00:32:37   there's gotta be something about the [TS]

00:32:38   business of what you do not necessarily [TS]

00:32:40   the economics and finance of it but [TS]

00:32:42   there's gotta be something about the [TS]

00:32:43   business of what you do that you find [TS]

00:32:46   you are [TS]

00:32:47   either really good at and/or enjoy doing [TS]

00:32:51   like you know you arguing with the guy [TS]

00:32:53   with the cigar in the role [TS]

00:32:55   hundred-dollar bills bucket and pay for [TS]

00:32:56   a gig like if you can't get with that as [TS]

00:32:58   part of your job and that's gonna be a [TS]

00:33:00   tough job for you right [TS]

00:33:02   it's gotta be the thing is when things [TS]

00:33:03   like we always notice this one thing [TS]

00:33:05   about it we go like oh yeah you know I [TS]

00:33:07   like to ride around in cars i'd probably [TS]

00:33:09   be a great mechanic that's a while not [TS]

00:33:11   necessarily I mean you like invoicing [TS]

00:33:12   like there's a lot to it beyond just you [TS]

00:33:15   know enjoying that field and I think [TS]

00:33:17   comedy is definitely like that [TS]

00:33:19   well my sister was walking around the [TS]

00:33:20   party the other day as she sometimes [TS]

00:33:23   does asking everybody the same question [TS]

00:33:26   what that was about joy John yeah it in [TS]

00:33:29   a way in a way she was saying to [TS]

00:33:31   everybody [TS]

00:33:32   what is the one thing that you [TS]

00:33:35   unashamedly would say that you were good [TS]

00:33:39   at like not you don't qualify it it [TS]

00:33:44   doesn't have to be anything bigger or [TS]

00:33:46   impressive but what's the one thing that [TS]

00:33:48   you will say you know without shame I'm [TS]

00:33:52   actually good at this writing get people [TS]

00:33:55   say are you good at ping-pong yeah I'm [TS]

00:33:57   alright ping-pong and maybe your killer [TS]

00:33:59   at ping-pong maybe you can't play at all [TS]

00:34:01   but must be like yeah i mean i can play [TS]

00:34:03   yeah I'm fine a ping-pong yeah I'm [TS]

00:34:05   pretty good at pool i guess you know but [TS]

00:34:07   what's the one thing that you are just [TS]

00:34:11   like yeah I'm good at that [TS]

00:34:13   I'm actually good and she was going [TS]

00:34:15   around and and getting like surprise [TS]

00:34:17   answers like I'm actually you know her [TS]

00:34:20   answer was I'm really good at [TS]

00:34:22   snowboarding and skiing and everything [TS]

00:34:24   else in my life photography you know [TS]

00:34:27   dancing whatever I'm you know like yeah [TS]

00:34:30   these are things that I'm pursuing [TS]

00:34:31   photography is my passion but i will [TS]

00:34:35   walk into any room in the world stand up [TS]

00:34:38   at the lectern and say I'm fucking great [TS]

00:34:39   skiing and you know and she's right and [TS]

00:34:43   and so I'm standing next to her and and [TS]

00:34:44   you know and there was a a like lot of [TS]

00:34:47   different answers a I young lady I know [TS]

00:34:50   well was like dancing and I looked and I [TS]

00:34:53   was like dancing you dance and she was [TS]

00:34:55   like yeah I'm a great dancer [TS]

00:34:58   that's the one thing that I would say [TS]

00:34:59   honey I never even seen you dance at [TS]

00:35:01   which point my sister's boyfriend said [TS]

00:35:03   I've never even seen Susan ski but these [TS]

00:35:07   are the things that they're like this is [TS]

00:35:08   the thing that I'm actually good and [TS]

00:35:09   then so they turned to me and they're [TS]

00:35:10   like what's the thing that you're [TS]

00:35:11   actually good at what is the one thing [TS]

00:35:13   you would say who and I was like uh huh [TS]

00:35:18   ah ping-pong like I don't I don't even I [TS]

00:35:22   don't even know talk talking [TS]

00:35:23   extemporaneously is that a thing you can [TS]

00:35:26   see it's just but it's also like I'm [TS]

00:35:28   with you it's also just not how I think [TS]

00:35:30   it's not how I think about myself and [TS]

00:35:32   other people i think it's a difference [TS]

00:35:35   and i'm not saying i mean first we agree [TS]

00:35:37   with you that guy would be put on the [TS]

00:35:38   spot like that I would feel the need as [TS]

00:35:40   a funny guy to come up with some kind of [TS]

00:35:42   an answer like I'm really good at doing [TS]

00:35:44   the dishes at the last minute or [TS]

00:35:45   something only I I honestly I couldn't [TS]

00:35:47   clean and it's actually not how I think [TS]

00:35:49   about myself it would be I would have to [TS]

00:35:51   make something up [TS]

00:35:53   well yeah and and I that's how I felt [TS]

00:35:56   too like uh i don't i don't know ice [TS]

00:36:01   extemporaneous speaking yeah right like [TS]

00:36:04   a lot what is the thing where you walk [TS]

00:36:06   into a room and you feel like you're [TS]

00:36:08   fine [TS]

00:36:09   I i can do that oh yeah i got if if you [TS]

00:36:14   if you had a microphone right now and [TS]

00:36:15   told me to go up on the stage and keep [TS]

00:36:17   everybody keep everybody's attention [TS]

00:36:19   distracted for 45 minutes while we will [TS]

00:36:22   heed conduct this bank robbery across [TS]

00:36:24   the street [TS]

00:36:25   oh look at me like i would go up to the [TS]

00:36:27   microphone be like excuse me everybody [TS]

00:36:29   hi so anyway one time you know and i [TS]

00:36:33   would like to do that [TS]

00:36:35   what is that yeah i mean anything is [TS]

00:36:37   there are way funnier people than me [TS]

00:36:39   there are way more they're way smarter [TS]

00:36:42   people than me like i don't i won't i [TS]

00:36:44   wouldn't even claim to get up there and [TS]

00:36:46   actually be entertaining for that 45 [TS]

00:36:47   minutes but I could do it without [TS]

00:36:49   without beer [TS]

00:36:52   yes so what that does definitely that's [TS]

00:36:55   unusual I feel the same way on that one [TS]

00:36:56   yeah definitely unusual I think we're [TS]

00:36:58   both probably pretty fun in the room [TS]

00:37:00   were super annoying on a podcast but in [TS]

00:37:01   the room I think we're both pretty good [TS]

00:37:03   with people [TS]

00:37:03   yeah pretty good pretty good people [TS]

00:37:05   would be surprised to hang out with us i [TS]

00:37:08   think yeah you're much less insufferable [TS]

00:37:10   then you would guess I've seen this [TS]

00:37:11   happen [TS]

00:37:12   at one another when the long winters [TS]

00:37:14   play in San Francisco Merlin generally [TS]

00:37:17   comes to the show and then after the [TS]

00:37:19   show everybody standing around writer is [TS]

00:37:21   a lot of people there they're all [TS]

00:37:22   they're all happy to be there it's a [TS]

00:37:24   rock show they've seen their they've [TS]

00:37:27   seen their favorite band or a band that [TS]

00:37:29   they like that they don't get to see [TS]

00:37:31   that often and they're socializing with [TS]

00:37:33   each other and stand around the merch [TS]

00:37:35   table and then you look across the room [TS]

00:37:36   and there's Merlin and there are between [TS]

00:37:40   six and ten people standing around [TS]

00:37:42   Merlin just trying to get part of the [TS]

00:37:45   just trying to get into the accident [TS]

00:37:47   including security security is it was [TS]

00:37:50   watchin sorry there are actually there [TS]

00:37:52   in the back but you know you're you're [TS]

00:37:55   holding court a little i'll hold some [TS]

00:37:56   Court you all court [TS]

00:37:58   well I love to hold a little course and [TS]

00:38:00   it's very fun people are people with it [TS]

00:38:03   it's so show it's like this is it yeah [TS]

00:38:06   right okay that's it [TS]

00:38:07   holding court is that a thing okay you [TS]

00:38:10   know what I'll do that [TS]

00:38:11   yes you're holding her I was gonna say [TS]

00:38:12   either I a having a near certainty that [TS]

00:38:16   everybody in the room is very close to [TS]

00:38:18   permanently hating you I'm great at that [TS]

00:38:19   and i'm also also pretty good at being [TS]

00:38:23   amusing in a certain context for up to [TS]

00:38:25   90 seconds [TS]

00:38:26   yeah that's something that seems a [TS]

00:38:28   little too precious you're supposed to [TS]

00:38:29   say something like I make great cookies [TS]

00:38:32   yeah this is like I'm remembering now [TS]

00:38:34   wonderful episode of the TV program The [TS]

00:38:36   Simpsons where mrs. Hoover is Hoover [TS]

00:38:39   think she has Lyme disease and so Dustin [TS]

00:38:41   Hoffman comes in he's mr. Bergstrom [TS]

00:38:42   remember he comes in and he's the nice [TS]

00:38:44   teacher any ghosts around us all the [TS]

00:38:46   kids like what they can do it doesn't [TS]

00:38:47   matter how stupid it is like if you can [TS]

00:38:49   make a face like you the best person in [TS]

00:38:50   the world that and he makes all the kids [TS]

00:38:52   feel good about themselves [TS]

00:38:53   I could use a mr. Bergstrom today call [TS]

00:38:54   me too i woke up I still I still John [TS]

00:38:57   that is the only episode of the simpsons [TS]

00:38:59   that still consistently makes me cry [TS]

00:39:01   every single time i watch it gives you [TS]

00:39:03   remember how it ends it ends with mr. [TS]

00:39:05   mr. Bergstrom leaving on the train and [TS]

00:39:07   he gives Lisa and note remember that it [TS]

00:39:09   says i am lisa simpson for you are at [TS]

00:39:12   least something [TS]

00:39:13   mm okay i'll cut that out I got the [TS]

00:39:15   quote wrong but it still makes me cry [TS]

00:39:17   yeah I cry now you're Lisa Simpson i'm [TS]

00:39:19   crying inside because I'm really good at [TS]

00:39:21   crying inside i really want is I want to [TS]

00:39:24   just come up coming right out [TS]

00:39:26   say the first time I saw the simpsons I [TS]

00:39:29   was a little rock arkansas and you'll [TS]

00:39:32   notice that i pronounce it LOL wroclaw [TS]

00:39:34   Ross that sounds pronounced little rock [TS]

00:39:36   arkansas and I was like crashing on some [TS]

00:39:39   guys floor and Little Rock and he said [TS]

00:39:43   you ever seen the simpsons and it was [TS]

00:39:45   nineteen ninety i think and now but it [TS]

00:39:49   was already kind of a phenomenon project [TS]

00:39:51   it was going on [TS]

00:39:51   by this point and i said now I guess I [TS]

00:39:55   haven't I mean I've seen life in hell [TS]

00:39:57   yeah on the back page of many [TS]

00:39:59   alternative newspapers and i think its [TS]

00:40:01   response he was he's from Portland [TS]

00:40:03   writer or limit for Portland area so [TS]

00:40:05   he's probably phenom in the pnw at that [TS]

00:40:07   point right yeah he went to read like [TS]

00:40:09   with you know he was a his he was one of [TS]

00:40:12   the alternative comic strip writers he [TS]

00:40:15   was he had the one of the best strips in [TS]

00:40:17   your local liberal throwaway paper for [TS]

00:40:19   sure he was like I love life and I had a [TS]

00:40:21   life and help look for the simpsons i [TS]

00:40:22   love life and he'll how do you feel [TS]

00:40:23   about zippy dependent um I enjoyed [TS]

00:40:26   independent hit in head for its Dada [TS]

00:40:27   humor huh I didn't always get zippy but [TS]

00:40:30   i got i like the idea of zippy yeah [TS]

00:40:32   right or bizarro yeah i like all those [TS]

00:40:35   you got a lot of good stuff bizarre that [TS]

00:40:38   you cut those and put it on the fridge [TS]

00:40:39   sure of course those were like 20 [TS]

00:40:41   remaining as it was called a homer [TS]

00:40:43   those were those are like mini ted talks [TS]

00:40:45   like the original bazaars original [TS]

00:40:48   TEDTalk it was the original turns out [TS]

00:40:50   coming through [TS]

00:40:51   but uh but you know life in hell with [TS]

00:40:54   the animatic one eared rabbit and that [TS]

00:40:57   two little guys in fences that appeared [TS]

00:40:59   to love each other and appeared to be [TS]

00:41:00   gay with that guy Warren Jeff you know [TS]

00:41:02   those were all wonderful character Jeff [TS]

00:41:04   brothers lovers or both or both but so [TS]

00:41:08   I'm in little rock arkansas and this guy [TS]

00:41:10   sits me down i think probably puts a [TS]

00:41:13   bong in my lap and then puts in a VHS [TS]

00:41:17   cassette and forces me to watch between [TS]

00:41:22   14 and forty VHS recorded Simpsons [TS]

00:41:26   episodes I don't know that's the best [TS]

00:41:27   way to do it all with starting at number [TS]

00:41:29   one and all the way you know with the [TS]

00:41:32   kind of VHS like sku problems along the [TS]

00:41:35   top of the screen [TS]

00:41:36   yep until I felt like I was in Clockwork [TS]

00:41:40   Orange just like he got a little vika [TS]

00:41:42   technique just like no not another one [TS]

00:41:43   not another was like don't know you [TS]

00:41:45   gotta watch the next one [TS]

00:41:46   it's amazing and from from that [TS]

00:41:50   experience right like I eventually left [TS]

00:41:54   little rock in a daze may be dragging [TS]

00:41:59   the bong I don't know I and from that [TS]

00:42:04   point on I would if I if I stumbled upon [TS]

00:42:08   a simpsons episode as I was flipping [TS]

00:42:11   through the channels in a hotel I would [TS]

00:42:13   greedily watch it yes I mean it's not [TS]

00:42:15   like it turned me off the simpsons but [TS]

00:42:18   also i pursued no methodical watching of [TS]

00:42:22   the simpsons so so a lot of that mean [TS]

00:42:26   there are a lot of people that presume [TS]

00:42:28   that i have seen 1000 simpsons is like [TS]

00:42:31   everyone else has but I have not [TS]

00:42:33   yeah and I and I've seen I've seen [TS]

00:42:36   because i went on the internet head and [TS]

00:42:39   watched be a are they saying boo or [TS]

00:42:44   burns i watch that like 40 times the [TS]

00:42:48   light because i loved it i thought it [TS]

00:42:50   was wonderful but anyway so no I don't [TS]

00:42:52   remember the one and I'm always for [TS]

00:42:54   something that's ok that's because [TS]

00:42:55   they're like to remember the one and I'm [TS]

00:42:57   like I don't remember [TS]

00:42:57   no III [TS]

00:42:59   help that I'm not that guy no you're not [TS]

00:43:00   you're not you're not but like I want I [TS]

00:43:03   I want to have what also so I did I went [TS]

00:43:06   on the internet and i said i want to [TS]

00:43:08   watch all the simpsons 'as at one point [TS]

00:43:11   and the internet said you cannot they [TS]

00:43:15   said you can buy a DVD [TS]

00:43:17   oh yeah that was the way for a while [TS]

00:43:18   here but you tell me now how would i go [TS]

00:43:21   watch the simpsons they're not on [TS]

00:43:23   YouTube are no they're on the cable you [TS]

00:43:25   can see them on on I think FX x IC so i [TS]

00:43:31   would have to have cable TV yet [TS]

00:43:33   something [TS]

00:43:33   yes that is something you need a TV to [TS]

00:43:35   know about this is no you're no you're [TS]

00:43:37   ok you're OK [TS]

00:43:39   yeah i mean part of the problem is also [TS]

00:43:40   the people that they're very people get [TS]

00:43:41   very like not snippy but they're like [TS]

00:43:44   well I've never seen Seinfeld murderer [TS]

00:43:46   and like well okay you know I've never [TS]

00:43:48   been to Paris [TS]

00:43:49   well who goes next wait have you never [TS]

00:43:52   been a pair of course I've never been to [TS]

00:43:53   Paris [TS]

00:43:53   oh merlin we need to go to Paris no no [TS]

00:43:56   I've been like four places and I was out [TS]

00:43:59   of the country a couple times you know [TS]

00:44:01   let me ask you this [TS]

00:44:02   yeah between the time you were boarded [TS]

00:44:05   and the time you graduate from college [TS]

00:44:09   how many houses did you have [TS]

00:44:13   oh yeah that's a really good question [TS]

00:44:15   well okay let me look for a minute set [TS]

00:44:18   aside college because that was a box one [TS]

00:44:19   right okay let's let's say the end of [TS]

00:44:21   high school mostly probably 45 45 [TS]

00:44:25   yeah I mean we yeah I mean it'sit's long [TS]

00:44:27   sad story but college man up [TS]

00:44:29   I can't I didn't excel spreadsheet one [TS]

00:44:31   day of love where I live [TS]

00:44:33   that's kind of thing i do I remember [TS]

00:44:35   like my federal spreadsheet you remember [TS]

00:44:37   that i can tell you exactly like you can [TS]

00:44:39   see the trend on the cost of ephedrine [TS]

00:44:41   ya know you had you had where to buy a [TS]

00:44:44   federal down to like zip codes [TS]

00:44:46   yeah I was like that that looks like a [TS]

00:44:48   crazy in this american life guy like [TS]

00:44:50   Wright and put his meat stickers in the [TS]

00:44:51   in the notebook [TS]

00:44:53   not today the today on the porch with 62 [TS]

00:44:55   degrees [TS]

00:44:56   the newspaper in eight ounces you sent [TS]

00:44:59   me a jar of federal one time and I fear [TS]

00:45:01   that I lost [TS]

00:45:02   oh god I would kill for that right now [TS]

00:45:03   or I fear that it was that it went into [TS]

00:45:05   some kind of thing works like this is a [TS]

00:45:07   bottle of undifferentiated pills that [TS]

00:45:10   i'm not sure what I should have said [TS]

00:45:12   I've given you some strange strange [TS]

00:45:14   things [TS]

00:45:14   yeah you don't have given you cold [TS]

00:45:16   medicine i given you a faedron I gave [TS]

00:45:18   you a bag and then a strap for a bag [TS]

00:45:21   making another bag i think you another [TS]

00:45:23   guy one time you gave me a few bags i [TS]

00:45:25   gave you like your mom [TS]

00:45:27   oh that's you gave me to give her a [TS]

00:45:29   wallet which ended up being mine [TS]

00:45:31   unbelievable years a handful of space [TS]

00:45:33   pens must be so strange to be my friend [TS]

00:45:38   one time you gave me a like a a little [TS]

00:45:41   pouch for your cell phone that would [TS]

00:45:43   strap onto the antennae back to bag so [TS]

00:45:45   timbuk2 bag was a good that was a good [TS]

00:45:47   pouch little pouch that and i think that [TS]

00:45:49   i think actually when you gave me that [TS]

00:45:52   you said I might want this back but for [TS]

00:45:55   now let's not do that [TS]

00:45:57   no it was not a double and I felt like [TS]

00:45:59   you were I felt like you were saying it [TS]

00:46:01   for some other reason you didn't [TS]

00:46:02   actually want it back and in fact you [TS]

00:46:04   didn't because i still have it before [TS]

00:46:05   and every time I pull it out i'm like [TS]

00:46:08   well here it is it's a pouch for your [TS]

00:46:10   cell phone from 2002 i'm not sure what [TS]

00:46:15   to do with it but i can't throw it away [TS]

00:46:16   because I got it from Merlin yeah i know [TS]

00:46:19   this is this is we talked about this [TS]

00:46:20   before this is the good box problem [TS]

00:46:22   yeah exactly right i think like we could [TS]

00:46:25   put tic tacs in here [TS]

00:46:26   yeah i could put what else can I put a [TS]

00:46:28   first-aid kit a tiny perfect what about [TS]

00:46:30   a sewing kit [TS]

00:46:31   you know what you could do it would be [TS]

00:46:33   you know it's small back in your small [TS]

00:46:35   but if you're like me like I use this [TS]

00:46:36   packing cubes like I mean loosen my in [TS]

00:46:38   my suitcase I'm not an animal i got a [TS]

00:46:40   great new suitcase by the way but anyway [TS]

00:46:42   i'm a bagman and so on until you are [TS]

00:46:45   you've always been my bag man I got bags [TS]

00:46:46   and bags so for example I've got AI got [TS]

00:46:48   a tambien backpack that I love Tom bill [TS]

00:46:51   back tom bombadil but that's a lord of [TS]

00:46:54   the rings the writers that a habit [TS]

00:46:56   that's a hobbit no it's not a hobby is [TS]

00:46:58   that he's like an eternal family and [TS]

00:47:00   Oakenshield he's got an eternal life and [TS]

00:47:02   he's confusing enough that they is not [TS]

00:47:05   he's not been included controversial [TS]

00:47:07   character not to be [TS]

00:47:09   ok but i do believe he's been sort of [TS]

00:47:12   he's been xed out of shit like the [TS]

00:47:15   poltergeist in harry potter just wasn't [TS]

00:47:17   room for him there wasn't room for tom [TS]

00:47:19   bombadil he doesn't advance the [TS]

00:47:21   narrative and enough for it all [TS]

00:47:24   yes and I think I think maybe he [TS]

00:47:26   reappears at one point but not it not [TS]

00:47:28   enough to to to turn the time [TS]

00:47:30   ok cell is not a Boromir right you [TS]

00:47:34   couldn't tell the story without a board [TS]

00:47:35   all know or yeah and forks works [TS]

00:47:39   yeah right remember the one where where [TS]

00:47:42   Lisa catches 400 coins of the offer [TS]

00:47:45   elbow [TS]

00:47:46   alright she's a she's not coming here in [TS]

00:47:49   the mention marriage is a perfect [TS]

00:47:51   yeah the one where Tom Selleck marries [TS]

00:47:53   the the Kennedy oh I remember that there [TS]

00:47:57   was dynasty [TS]

00:47:58   yeah I remember that time anyway Tom [TS]

00:48:00   Kenny was that was a game show host is [TS]

00:48:01   that right [TS]

00:48:02   Tom Kennedy I think wasn't in the Dirty [TS]

00:48:04   Dozen Dirty Dozen I think that's trini [TS]

00:48:06   lopez you're thinking of trini lopez [TS]

00:48:08   right i had his signature guitar for [TS]

00:48:10   lemon lemon tree smell so pretty and [TS]

00:48:12   damage on training Lopez David Grohl [TS]

00:48:15   David the role does he want dirty dozen [TS]

00:48:19   Jim Brown uh-huh [TS]

00:48:20   Jim Brown Jim Brown vs the Board of [TS]

00:48:22   Education be killed all those people in [TS]

00:48:24   Guiana right that's right Jim Jones [TS]

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00:50:30   honest lying on a bed for four minutes [TS]

00:50:32   in a showroom has zero correlation to [TS]

00:50:34   whether it's right for you is this how [TS]

00:50:35   you want to spend one third of your life [TS]

00:50:37   that's why Casper has turned this buying [TS]

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00:50:43   casper mattresses are shipped to you in [TS]

00:50:45   a box to carry him upstairs like a [TS]

00:50:47   gentleman and opening them that's an [TS]

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00:50:51   good not a creepy way but I can like a [TS]

00:50:54   really nice satisfying way your mattress [TS]

00:50:55   breeze inhales nice comes to life as you [TS]

00:50:59   remove it from its bag not like a Korean [TS]

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00:51:13   hittin me in the pancreas for nine hours [TS]

00:51:15   i was so glad to get back home and get [TS]

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00:51:47   our thanks to Casper for so many great [TS]

00:51:50   nights sleep and for supporting Roderick [TS]

00:51:52   on the line gameplay the treaty three [TS]

00:51:55   Lopez model guitar was a great guitar is [TS]

00:51:58   it little i know it was big and nobody [TS]

00:52:01   wanted it because it was weird and then [TS]

00:52:04   dave grohl started playing them and all [TS]

00:52:06   of a sudden you can't buy them for any [TS]

00:52:07   amount of kidding no isn't that weird [TS]

00:52:09   how that happens yeah it was just like [TS]

00:52:11   don't don't do that Dave Grohl stop [TS]

00:52:13   taking the cool things and making [TS]

00:52:15   everybody kind of it not a little like [TS]

00:52:17   and sg4 know it's BS LIC it looks a [TS]

00:52:21   little bit like an SG that double [TS]

00:52:23   cutaways ya see but look at the cutaways [TS]

00:52:26   sharp sharp it looks like it looks like [TS]

00:52:29   a Japanese guitar that wants to be [TS]

00:52:31   either an es what is that any s3 [TS]

00:52:34   combined with Rick it looks like that [TS]

00:52:36   better than Rick styling to it it's a [TS]

00:52:38   yeah it's there's a lot going on in a [TS]

00:52:41   trini lopez it's just a little too sharp [TS]

00:52:43   for my liking their work up there were a [TS]

00:52:45   couple of different versions of it there [TS]

00:52:47   was one that was really sharp and then [TS]

00:52:50   there was one that was just a 335 body [TS]

00:52:53   this is weird incident happened it's got [TS]

00:52:55   a weird week all about the bridge but [TS]

00:52:57   with the tailpiece it's got a [TS]

00:52:58   strange-looking tailpiece and it's got [TS]

00:53:00   all that it's got like a fender type [TS]

00:53:01   head so the headstock is like yeah from [TS]

00:53:04   a Firebird and it's got diamond shape of [TS]

00:53:07   holes anyway nobody wanted him you used [TS]

00:53:09   to be able to buy these things like [TS]

00:53:11   homers car that's a reference from the [TS]

00:53:12   simpsons it was they were like 700 bucks [TS]

00:53:15   because they just didn't look like a 335 [TS]

00:53:18   they just look weird right [TS]

00:53:19   uh by the it to our eyes at the time [TS]

00:53:22   they just looked strange i never owned [TS]

00:53:25   one because i thought they were weird i [TS]

00:53:27   was like ah I don't know shouldn't the [TS]

00:53:30   f-holes look like f's yeah it's not even [TS]

00:53:32   that Foles these Namdaemun holes the [TS]

00:53:34   diamond tools and that's not what you [TS]

00:53:36   get and though and the 335 with the [TS]

00:53:38   weird headstock like I saw one time I [TS]

00:53:40   saw a guy play a show you the the [TS]

00:53:43   the the bass player of the Soundgarden's [TS]

00:53:46   who had a band called hater and hater [TS]

00:53:49   was an extremely good band i highly [TS]

00:53:52   recommend if you can find haters first [TS]

00:53:53   album that you get it because it's [TS]

00:53:55   awesome [TS]

00:53:55   hater but he was the lead singer of [TS]

00:53:58   hater and he had a 10 I saw him at play [TS]

00:54:01   a show one time we had a telecaster with [TS]

00:54:03   a Fender neck [TS]

00:54:04   I'm sorry a telecaster with a Gibson [TS]

00:54:06   neck what a telecaster with the gibson [TS]

00:54:08   neck now just picture it for a second [TS]

00:54:10   and it was so wrong looking at it wasn't [TS]

00:54:15   cool right you want to think oh that's [TS]

00:54:17   cool [TS]

00:54:17   it sounds like something your death but [TS]

00:54:20   when someone's dad would make for them [TS]

00:54:22   well you know it's not that wide at the [TS]

00:54:23   widest fretboard it's got the the tuning [TS]

00:54:26   pegs on either side big had started [TS]

00:54:28   stock [TS]

00:54:29   uh yeah it does it sounds like something [TS]

00:54:31   that on Christmas morning you'd open up [TS]

00:54:32   the wrapping [TS]

00:54:33   he's like you wanted to get our feet are [TS]

00:54:36   you got me a guitar and then you open it [TS]

00:54:37   up and it's a it's a telecaster with a [TS]

00:54:39   Gibson neck and it was just I was [TS]

00:54:41   through the entire show i could not I [TS]

00:54:44   could not eat I couldn't even get into [TS]

00:54:45   the music because i was just looking at [TS]

00:54:47   this guitar like no no no no no the neck [TS]

00:54:51   is too heavy for the body know the [TS]

00:54:53   square doesn't work with the round no [TS]

00:54:56   sure jack use to refuse to refuse so you [TS]

00:55:03   know but now I look at guitar I'm like [TS]

00:55:05   oh god why didn't I by six of those yep [TS]

00:55:07   i could someone for five grand [TS]

00:55:09   yeah yeah you can ask anything for for [TS]

00:55:12   stuff that's true you're asking 5 grand [TS]

00:55:15   and getting five grand different store [TS]

00:55:17   uh we got a lot of threads here magic [TS]

00:55:21   guitars what were we talking about yeah [TS]

00:55:23   you're what's special gift right so wewe [TS]

00:55:26   did you have you thought more about [TS]

00:55:27   obviously thought more about it [TS]

00:55:29   have you arrived at an answer my special [TS]

00:55:31   gift I mean this is so [TS]

00:55:34   I wanted the 2a I wanted to be good at [TS]

00:55:41   Magic right like so many of us who grew [TS]

00:55:43   up in the seventies it seemed like magic [TS]

00:55:46   is everywhere [TS]

00:55:47   yeah and if you wanted to end up at [TS]

00:55:48   somebody who wore a ruffled shirt and a [TS]

00:55:50   big bow tie and maybe was on late-night [TS]

00:55:53   television with rich little [TS]

00:55:55   uh-huh it magic might be the way into [TS]

00:55:58   that world right and I just wanted you [TS]

00:56:01   know it seemed even now to be Ricky J [TS]

00:56:04   and to be able to just go anywhere in [TS]

00:56:06   the world with the deck of cards right [TS]

00:56:08   and amazing to light people [TS]

00:56:10   yeah I wouldn't that be wonderful but it [TS]

00:56:13   requires that you practice and you have [TS]

00:56:16   now what that's the problem I special [TS]

00:56:17   and that's what does you see I'm if [TS]

00:56:19   you're like me see I I think Ricky J is [TS]

00:56:21   kind of like the he is to magic and I [TS]

00:56:24   feel like him with magic and about [TS]

00:56:26   krautrock or sometimes I enjoy it but [TS]

00:56:28   I'm Way more interested in learning [TS]

00:56:29   about it so like I love learning about [TS]

00:56:31   Ricky Jay I watch every Ricky J [TS]

00:56:33   documenting and I love his performances [TS]

00:56:35   to like the documentaries he just spends [TS]

00:56:37   hours a day [TS]

00:56:39   shuffling cards that's what he does [TS]

00:56:41   that's his thing although he has a [TS]

00:56:42   mirror ever seen these in he just sits [TS]

00:56:45   there and just does gorgeous things with [TS]

00:56:46   cards all day long it's what he does [TS]

00:56:48   yeah he's also really smart well see [TS]

00:56:52   Matt and the that's confusing to me [TS]

00:56:54   right he's really smart and he shuffles [TS]

00:56:56   cards all day right it seems like a [TS]

00:56:58   disconnect and I guess for me I all [TS]

00:57:01   nobody ever explained to me that being a [TS]

00:57:04   that being kind of good at everything as [TS]

00:57:08   opposed to really good at one thing that [TS]

00:57:11   that was actually a goal to have that [TS]

00:57:13   that was something that you could shoot [TS]

00:57:15   for and it turns out that my instinct is [TS]

00:57:18   to be kind of good at everything we've [TS]

00:57:20   talked about this before you can go deep [TS]

00:57:22   on nothing go why don't I totally agree [TS]

00:57:24   but but that's not a thing that there's [TS]

00:57:28   really that much useful there's only a [TS]

00:57:30   few people that are allowed to be public [TS]

00:57:32   figures that are famous for that you [TS]

00:57:34   have your George's Plimpton [TS]

00:57:35   yeah you have your your your gorgeous [TS]

00:57:38   videl I guess [TS]

00:57:39   well and see this is this is the thing [TS]

00:57:41   it's a very rich wasp being to be that's [TS]

00:57:45   true it's a privilege thing [TS]

00:57:47   yeah if you you know if you [TS]

00:57:48   can just sit around and and and learn a [TS]

00:57:51   little bit of everything isn't that nice [TS]

00:57:53   for you but the rest of us have to get a [TS]

00:57:55   job then you're always you're skating up [TS]

00:57:57   against that word nobody likes della [TS]

00:57:58   tante Oh dilettante right c-list right [TS]

00:58:01   somebody who's uh who's pretty maybe [TS]

00:58:04   broad pretty shallow and and that is a [TS]

00:58:07   legitimate thing to be good at alpine [TS]

00:58:10   math I'm in a sense an autodidact [TS]

00:58:12   there's almost and i think you and i [TS]

00:58:14   both are that might be good at words and [TS]

00:58:17   good at word so so I mean one thing if [TS]

00:58:21   if you say okay what are you good at [TS]

00:58:23   it's like well all right arm that on any [TS]

00:58:25   topic I can be [TS]

00:58:27   conversent you cannot really throw at [TS]

00:58:31   you or me a thing that we wouldn't have [TS]

00:58:34   something to say about it even if and [TS]

00:58:36   when it's not like we profess to know [TS]

00:58:39   no but like you've heard something about [TS]

00:58:40   everything I've heard something about [TS]

00:58:42   everything if somebody says oh I am you [TS]

00:58:45   know I work with bats i will say oh [TS]

00:58:47   that's interesting have you ever heard [TS]

00:58:50   of the bats that live under the bridge [TS]

00:58:51   in austin and of course they have and [TS]

00:58:54   now we're talking about it right and [TS]

00:58:56   that is a whatever it is right it but [TS]

00:59:00   it's but it's a I mean you could say [TS]

00:59:03   it's a gift your gift gifted [TS]

00:59:05   conversation list but that seems like [TS]

00:59:07   something that a rich wife would you say [TS]

00:59:10   about like the wife of a congressman I [TS]

00:59:13   know [TS]

00:59:14   yes you're right right and that is [TS]

00:59:16   something that I maybe I would be good [TS]

00:59:18   at idea the wife of an ambassador I [TS]

00:59:21   would be a great wife of an ambassador [TS]

00:59:23   you would be such a great wife you know [TS]

00:59:25   you can be very polite you can you can [TS]

00:59:29   definitely seemed like a really good [TS]

00:59:30   listener and you know which for m1 sure [TS]

00:59:33   and you know which fork to use a lot of [TS]

00:59:35   the time most of the time you work from [TS]

00:59:37   the outside in [TS]

00:59:38   but so I'm let's say let's say my uh my [TS]

00:59:40   network let's call her my wife [TS]

00:59:43   let's say she is the ambassador to [TS]

00:59:44   France mm and I am her wife she little [TS]

00:59:48   bit like a short kind of Jewish yeah she [TS]

00:59:50   might be a little zaftig who but she's a [TS]

00:59:53   great ambassador and she's working all [TS]

00:59:55   the time doing ambassadorial things [TS]

00:59:57   and i am hosting galas [TS]

00:59:57   and i am hosting galas [TS]

01:00:00   sure you know what i'm wearing a very [TS]

01:00:02   becoming close and everyone who comes in [TS]

01:00:05   and make them feel comfortable and I you [TS]

01:00:07   know and I direct them to the the [TS]

01:00:10   conversations that I feel like they [TS]

01:00:12   would be interested in and I laughs [TS]

01:00:14   appreciatively at their stories and I [TS]

01:00:16   say oh you know a no this is the Duke of [TS]

01:00:20   Ellington and here's that you know [TS]

01:00:24   there's the count basie and aren't they [TS]

01:00:26   aren't they [TS]

01:00:28   spectacular let's talk about pop music [TS]

01:00:32   like I'd be I'd be spectacular that but [TS]

01:00:35   again it's a it's a job that doesn't [TS]

01:00:38   that's not really a job right we don't [TS]

01:00:39   appreciate ambassadors wives like we [TS]

01:00:42   should and and that's not a that there's [TS]

01:00:48   no job description for that except maybe [TS]

01:00:50   podcaster but that was again as you say [TS]

01:00:54   doesn't even seem like a job [TS]

01:00:57   mhm not a real job now I I aspire I used [TS]

01:01:04   to I used to think that I was really [TS]

01:01:06   smart and in certain contexts like that [TS]

01:01:09   could be the trees are not very smart [TS]

01:01:10   I'm I'm fast I'm not smart i'm fast [TS]

01:01:13   sometimes on a good day i'm clever the [TS]

01:01:16   thing in the over the years that i also [TS]

01:01:18   am proud of but something that I a I'll [TS]

01:01:21   tell you what an aspiration of which i [TS]

01:01:23   am proud is that I do aspire to be [TS]

01:01:27   increasingly curious and I think that's [TS]

01:01:30   a good aspiration now it is merely an [TS]

01:01:32   inspiration i'm not as secure as I could [TS]

01:01:34   be [TS]

01:01:35   I said I remember a friend gave me a [TS]

01:01:37   book about the juggalo street just for [TS]

01:01:39   once or the Juggalos you're just talking [TS]

01:01:41   about the juggalos and he gave me a book [TS]

01:01:42   about understanding jugglers don't you [TS]

01:01:44   understand them better have been cracked [TS]

01:01:46   it [TS]

01:01:46   I'm gonna it's their trip on my keys you [TS]

01:01:48   know I feel like I understand them a lot [TS]

01:01:50   better from having met George the dragon [TS]

01:01:53   or whoever whoever that was impressive [TS]

01:01:56   John who is that uh no judge the dragon [TS]

01:01:58   steamboat so I didn't I tell you about [TS]

01:02:00   this I I was hosting a series of [TS]

01:02:04   conversations up here at bumbershoot who [TS]

01:02:07   a couple years ago and I invited the [TS]

01:02:10   dragon and I think he spells it [TS]

01:02:13   r AG aan maybe who had who had directed [TS]

01:02:20   his first film was a film about juggalos [TS]

01:02:23   he himself is a juggalo and he wanted to [TS]

01:02:25   dispel some of the misconceptions by [TS]

01:02:29   doing a film about juggalos so he his [TS]

01:02:31   name is the dragon right i think i don't [TS]

01:02:35   remember exactly and then I on the other [TS]

01:02:37   side of the panel i invited a a brownie [TS]

01:02:43   who were the brownies were really in the [TS]

01:02:46   news at the time everybody was talking [TS]

01:02:47   about bronies yeah and this man [TS]

01:02:50   presented himself as the world's [TS]

01:02:52   manliest brownie he was a [TS]

01:02:54   harley-davidson mechanic somewhere in [TS]

01:02:57   the Midwest and also an avid brownie and [TS]

01:03:02   so we bumbershoot flew them both out to [TS]

01:03:04   have this big discussion with me and and [TS]

01:03:08   it was a full house in a auditorium and [TS]

01:03:13   we started talking about juggalos and [TS]

01:03:14   brownies and both guys kind of gave [TS]

01:03:17   their like you know the gym the dragon [TS]

01:03:19   was just exactly as you would imagine [TS]

01:03:21   juggalo it was like juggalos killer and [TS]

01:03:24   awesome but will and then the world's [TS]

01:03:27   manliest brownie was dead serious about [TS]

01:03:29   brownie ism and how it makes everything [TS]

01:03:31   better in the world and then it opened [TS]

01:03:34   up to questions in the audience and [TS]

01:03:36   right away I understood that there was [TS]

01:03:38   tremendous hostility towards juggalos in [TS]

01:03:42   the in the assembled crowd and hostility [TS]

01:03:45   towards juggalos not just from young [TS]

01:03:47   people but especially from older members [TS]

01:03:50   of the crowd who were well-informed [TS]

01:03:52   liberal people and so there were all [TS]

01:03:54   these questions like how do you uh how [TS]

01:03:57   do you respond to this and then [TS]

01:04:00   extensive quoting of insane clown posse [TS]

01:04:03   lyrics that were violent and misogynist [TS]

01:04:06   and the dragon you know kind of was like [TS]

01:04:10   yeah well that's the thing and I mean [TS]

01:04:12   there's both temperature and then after [TS]

01:04:14   a while it became kind of clear that he [TS]

01:04:16   was under siege and I was moderating but [TS]

01:04:19   you know to a certain extent like people [TS]

01:04:21   would stand up and say I have a question [TS]

01:04:22   for both guys and it's like okay let's [TS]

01:04:24   hear from you and then they say well how [TS]

01:04:27   the general reply to the following [TS]

01:04:28   accusations was like wait a minute wait [TS]

01:04:30   a minute wait a minute let's have some [TS]

01:04:33   requests have you know everybody settle [TS]

01:04:35   down but then the dragon made this kind [TS]

01:04:38   of eloquent within two juggalo [TS]

01:04:42   vernacular defense of juggalos by saying [TS]

01:04:46   look there are all these mixed up kids [TS]

01:04:49   in the world who can live live in [TS]

01:04:51   violent drug addicted circumstances and [TS]

01:04:54   we attract them the Insane Clown Posse [TS]

01:04:57   attracts them by speaking to these [TS]

01:05:00   matters and by but you know by [TS]

01:05:04   presenting this kind of ugly reality [TS]

01:05:06   which makes these damaged people feel [TS]

01:05:09   like they're speaking the truth and then [TS]

01:05:12   once they're in the juggalo family we [TS]

01:05:15   domesticate them with our family [TS]

01:05:18   mutually supportive love five that we [TS]

01:05:21   have and in a way we are like we r d [TS]

01:05:26   feigning this entire generation of angry [TS]

01:05:30   damaged like violent kids who by you [TS]

01:05:35   know by offering them a safe place in [TS]

01:05:37   the world and up and up [TS]

01:05:40   you know a pink cloud went across the [TS]

01:05:43   audience and everybody was like huh [TS]

01:05:46   and you should see people kind of [TS]

01:05:47   looking at the floor and nodding their [TS]

01:05:49   heads and wondering tornado black people [TS]

01:05:51   nodding uh i think it feels like it was [TS]

01:05:55   a Seattle event there we shall share a [TS]

01:05:57   few black people change a couple of [TS]

01:05:59   those nouns around and you can get away [TS]

01:06:01   with anything with that pitch well yeah [TS]

01:06:03   but but in and that's the thing right [TS]

01:06:06   like everybody was nodding not in [TS]

01:06:08   agreement but like did a general just [TS]

01:06:10   score a point here right now I the bars [TS]

01:06:13   low so yeah I mean sure about 10 points [TS]

01:06:16   to juggle oh yeah are we try are we now [TS]

01:06:19   forced to confront the idea that that [TS]

01:06:22   juggling that the Gathering is some kind [TS]

01:06:25   of sit some kind of peace situation and [TS]

01:06:29   not just not just a thing where a guy [TS]

01:06:31   will cut off his own lips for fourteen [TS]

01:06:33   dollars just to show people that he can [TS]

01:06:35   uh i would ask for [TS]

01:06:38   little more than no I mean there are you [TS]

01:06:40   gonna drink your faygo well I think you [TS]

01:06:43   just did something strong shotgun it it [TS]

01:06:46   take it into your nose i don't know i'm [TS]

01:06:49   not a juggalo know but in the end in the [TS]

01:06:51   end i have to say that the dragon was [TS]

01:06:56   the more sympathetic of the to not [TS]

01:07:00   because not because juggalo ism is more [TS]

01:07:03   attractive than brownie ism but just [TS]

01:07:05   because they're but because of the [TS]

01:07:07   degree of self seriousness that was on [TS]

01:07:10   display [TS]

01:07:10   ok I mean he's not he the juggalo was [TS]

01:07:13   not claiming that juggalo ism is going [TS]

01:07:16   to sweep the nation and become the new [TS]

01:07:19   way that we interact with one another [TS]

01:07:21   and here is the brownie really was [TS]

01:07:23   pushing that angle a little bit more i [TS]

01:07:27   don't but i don't want to revisit that [TS]

01:07:29   that whole panel but you learned a [TS]

01:07:31   lesson about love I learned a lesson [TS]

01:07:34   about it by about tolerance and [TS]

01:07:36   acceptance [TS]

01:07:36   yeah yeah maybe maybe I mean it's hard [TS]

01:07:39   to be tolerant of a of people that are [TS]

01:07:43   that are ugly [TS]

01:07:44   it's mm harder it's there's something [TS]

01:07:49   i'm not a very logical thinker but [TS]

01:07:52   something in the little logic closet of [TS]

01:07:55   my mind [TS]

01:07:56   rings a little bit when we try to find [TS]

01:07:59   the way to show how one person in the [TS]

01:08:02   group didn't get treated as well as we [TS]

01:08:04   would like [TS]

01:08:05   and therefore things so I'm i mean i [TS]

01:08:10   feel you could do that with practically [TS]

01:08:11   any group because we're all sympathetic [TS]

01:08:13   for people especially sympathetic for [TS]

01:08:15   young people we are any decent humane [TS]

01:08:17   person is very sympathetic but for any [TS]

01:08:19   young person who feels like an outsider [TS]

01:08:20   but but also i guess i feel like i'm a [TS]

01:08:24   little i want to be somewhat careful [TS]

01:08:26   about organizations that find ways to [TS]

01:08:29   explain their ethos by saying we help [TS]

01:08:32   outsiders feel like they fit in [TS]

01:08:34   yeah but I thought part of that a [TS]

01:08:37   hundred percent by but again all I'm [TS]

01:08:38   saying is you just you change some of [TS]

01:08:40   those around not the same name any names [TS]

01:08:42   here but there's a whole lot of things [TS]

01:08:43   that you could say you know well it's [TS]

01:08:45   you know it's not really about states [TS]

01:08:46   rights about youth pride that's true [TS]

01:08:48   that's true but there's I [TS]

01:08:51   that you know I in traveling around [TS]

01:08:53   America and in reading the news [TS]

01:08:56   ravu over time you are forced to [TS]

01:09:00   confront the reality that there are you [TS]

01:09:03   know there are a lot of situations where [TS]

01:09:07   you can't even you can't even fathom [TS]

01:09:10   here you'll never be able to fathom did [TS]

01:09:12   you read the thing of the day where [TS]

01:09:13   where dad a dad with seven kids came [TS]

01:09:16   into the room playing with his gun and [TS]

01:09:19   like pretend pow-pow-pow no to his seven [TS]

01:09:25   kids and killed his four-year-old [TS]

01:09:27   daughter [TS]

01:09:28   uh-huh a like bang bang bang pow and [TS]

01:09:31   shot her right in the head and then took [TS]

01:09:36   like wiped his hand in her blood wiped [TS]

01:09:41   the blood across the face of his [TS]

01:09:42   five-year-old slapped her in the face [TS]

01:09:45   and said you did that and then ran and [TS]

01:09:52   when the police arrived the initial [TS]

01:09:57   story was that this five-year-old had [TS]

01:09:59   killed her four-year-old sister and [TS]

01:10:01   that's the one that that a good morning [TS]

01:10:03   america ran with and so for a couple of [TS]

01:10:07   days [TS]

01:10:08   the story was this family tragedy until [TS]

01:10:11   until the guy that dad finally walked [TS]

01:10:14   into a police station because they were [TS]

01:10:17   searching all over for him why did he [TS]

01:10:18   run right and then and initially denied [TS]

01:10:22   it and blamed it on his own other [TS]

01:10:23   daughter and then the police were like [TS]

01:10:25   wait a minute you seem a little bit not [TS]

01:10:27   that cool and eventually confessed and [TS]

01:10:31   it's like in watching that the oj [TS]

01:10:32   simpson series that I've been kind of [TS]

01:10:34   guilty watching I mean there's just one [TS]

01:10:35   piece of evidence that pops up in that [TS]

01:10:36   evidence is one piece of testimony [TS]

01:10:37   that's so interesting which is that when [TS]

01:10:39   they this i'm not an opinion one way or [TS]

01:10:41   another pretty interesting when they [TS]

01:10:42   called oj simpson to say that his [TS]

01:10:45   ex-wife that he had very strong feelings [TS]

01:10:46   about was dead he didn't ask how she [TS]

01:10:48   died [TS]

01:10:49   yeah and the thing is in that case you [TS]

01:10:52   know if your five-year-old just shot [TS]

01:10:54   your other kids it seems like you would [TS]

01:10:55   more than anything you want to be there [TS]

01:10:57   to like us out what's going on and it [TS]

01:10:59   seems like you but but but what's [TS]

01:11:03   interesting about that story too [TS]

01:11:04   he is not the dad right like I whatever [TS]

01:11:08   fuck that guy [TS]

01:11:09   the that the terrible thing is that that [TS]

01:11:12   five-year-old will one baby a [TS]

01:11:14   twenty-five-year-old and how we could [TS]

01:11:17   ever know how we could ever think about [TS]

01:11:21   her challenges entering adult life [TS]

01:11:25   absolutely you know and you just go ah [TS]

01:11:28   there is no social service agency there [TS]

01:11:32   is no church there is no let me not that [TS]

01:11:36   many talk about groups know who her [TS]

01:11:38   peers who exactly who's she gonna be [TS]

01:11:41   exactly who is you know like apparently [TS]

01:11:45   a Gary Ridgeway the Green Green River [TS]

01:11:50   Killer Green River Killer apparently he [TS]

01:11:52   has a child you know apparently Bundy [TS]

01:11:55   fathered a child with somebody like [TS]

01:11:57   these are people whose life experiences [TS]

01:12:00   not is not comparable and and so and [TS]

01:12:05   these are just like the ones that popped [TS]

01:12:07   in mind but all across America there are [TS]

01:12:09   and around the world there are people [TS]

01:12:11   who have witnessed and been subjected to [TS]

01:12:15   horrors that I just don't have any that [TS]

01:12:19   there's no place for them to go and feel [TS]

01:12:23   like anybody is ever going to get them [TS]

01:12:26   and it's so different from from the our [TS]

01:12:28   contemporary culture where everybody's a [TS]

01:12:30   victim the there are really people who [TS]

01:12:33   are who I mean what were she's 25 years [TS]

01:12:36   old and a lot of the time I mean I dated [TS]

01:12:38   a girl who had who had a on awful awful [TS]

01:12:41   childhood [TS]

01:12:42   yeah uh and she's an amazing person and [TS]

01:12:45   an amazing mother like she overcame but [TS]

01:12:48   but but how do you [TS]

01:12:52   there's no institutional solution to [TS]

01:12:54   that stuff you can't say if we had more [TS]

01:12:57   money if the if Congress put more money [TS]

01:13:00   into social services then then these [TS]

01:13:03   people would be healed me and that's the [TS]

01:13:06   whole thing I mean like it's easy to say [TS]

01:13:07   fuck that guy or whatever but like and [TS]

01:13:08   you know that that probably could have [TS]

01:13:10   gone better but like also know that guy [TS]

01:13:12   you think he meant to do that like the [TS]

01:13:14   initiating incident I'm sorry to show [TS]

01:13:16   empathy for somebody who is horrible [TS]

01:13:18   but like imagine how that guy felt like [TS]

01:13:19   I don't get that all the time like what [TS]

01:13:20   if you leave your kid in the car [TS]

01:13:22   there's all these kinds of things feel [TS]

01:13:23   like you know it's game over yeah he [TS]

01:13:25   accidentally shot his kid the most awful [TS]

01:13:28   thing that could possibly happen to a [TS]

01:13:30   person and it is in any panicked his [TS]

01:13:32   fucked-up panic reaction was to look [TS]

01:13:35   around and say here's a story that might [TS]

01:13:38   work but then like he actually punished [TS]

01:13:42   the he actually slapped and hit the [TS]

01:13:44   five-year-old both to put blood on her [TS]

01:13:47   and also like in some way to convince [TS]

01:13:52   himself and the five-year-old that she [TS]

01:13:54   was actually culpable like he's [TS]

01:13:57   importantly and convincing himself like [TS]

01:13:59   you did this pow right i mean broken guy [TS]

01:14:04   but also he just shot is our daughter [TS]

01:14:07   and then imagine what it ending in white [TS]

01:14:09   man you know imagine imagine his wife [TS]

01:14:11   comes home from work and she's probably [TS]

01:14:13   supporting the family [TS]

01:14:15   given the fact that he's there during [TS]

01:14:16   the day shooting his kids she comes [TS]

01:14:19   someone at you know like and this is the [TS]

01:14:22   news there's TV cameras out front so [TS]

01:14:25   compared to the worst thing that's ever [TS]

01:14:27   happened to me [TS]

01:14:29   there's no comparison right and I'm you [TS]

01:14:32   know I'm not fit to judge so the jungle [TS]

01:14:35   of guys telling me this story and i'm [TS]

01:14:36   thinking about all these kids in [TS]

01:14:37   Murphysboro Tennessee who's you know [TS]

01:14:42   whose parents are like feeding them pop [TS]

01:14:44   rocks and you know and disciplining them [TS]

01:14:49   with a tractor and I just go well i [TS]

01:14:52   don't know i don't it's me it's me I got [TS]

01:14:55   nothing here [TS]

01:14:56   yeah you know i got i guess i got [TS]

01:14:59   disciplined by my mom going in a room [TS]

01:15:02   and shutting the door [TS]

01:15:03   stopping a choice since topping on my [TS]

01:15:06   doors which had a lasting effect [TS]

01:15:09   uh-huh maybe it's why I my house is full [TS]

01:15:12   of toys now a little interesting and how [TS]

01:15:15   to make you feel is what maybe that's [TS]

01:15:17   why I collect on wrapped I'm sorry i [TS]

01:15:21   well why collect still in box star wars [TS]

01:15:24   figures [TS]

01:15:25   hmm i don't really know can you tell me [TS]

01:15:28   why the original Luke Skywalker Star [TS]

01:15:30   Wars speak [TS]

01:15:31   your had such a weird lightsaber little [TS]

01:15:34   yellow one [TS]

01:15:35   well you know the the one that where the [TS]

01:15:36   lightsaber halfway up got smaller was a [TS]

01:15:39   terrible designers and every kid help [TS]

01:15:42   remotely well either broke offer bit off [TS]

01:15:44   there was nothing more satisfying than [TS]

01:15:46   biting the to my only note says perfect [TS]

01:15:48   providing my OB one is is as the the end [TS]

01:15:51   rip I ripped off of my Luke still has [TS]

01:15:54   the full lightsaber today did you mean [TS]

01:15:56   survived from when you were trouble [TS]

01:15:58   summer of nineteen seventy-seven sent [TS]

01:16:00   from kantar in the box you get you [TS]

01:16:03   preorder it you get Luke r2d2 Princess [TS]

01:16:09   Leia and i want to say to bacha I still [TS]

01:16:11   high still have Luke still has his [TS]

01:16:13   lightsaber did you also did you also get [TS]

01:16:15   like a pepsi glass that had Sylvester [TS]

01:16:17   the cat ornament that are be sure I'm [TS]

01:16:19   not an animal up but you still have [TS]

01:16:22   those big no-no uuid wasn't interrupt [TS]

01:16:25   you when your husband's house but no let [TS]

01:16:27   me write down memory lane because I i [TS]

01:16:28   gobbled up my favorite wishes am manish [TS]

01:16:32   exam one that I like to like Captain [TS]

01:16:33   Marvel i had i think I'd like kool Kat I [TS]

01:16:36   didn't really know what kool Kat was but [TS]

01:16:38   had a cool cat class wasn't he the [TS]

01:16:40   kiddos cap [TS]

01:16:42   oh I think that's cheeto the cat you're [TS]

01:16:43   thinking of okie dokie i love those [TS]

01:16:45   those are great classes they were really [TS]

01:16:47   and they're hearty those glasses the [TS]

01:16:49   glasses like Latin and Aquaman that I [TS]

01:16:50   loved and those glasses lasted into the [TS]

01:16:53   nineties i was i remember going up to [TS]

01:16:54   college and my friends were still like [TS]

01:16:56   my friend Alan always got the Aquaman [TS]

01:16:57   glass [TS]

01:16:58   oh he would you take it down from your [TS]

01:17:00   shelf did you ever have your own glasses [TS]

01:17:02   and your own things at places like my [TS]

01:17:03   grandparents always had a certain cup [TS]

01:17:05   that I was it would use well I never [TS]

01:17:07   went to very many other people's houses [TS]

01:17:09   where they would have things like I had [TS]

01:17:12   no grandparents no submission invite you [TS]

01:17:13   to a conference [TS]

01:17:16   yeah you know she smashed my toys in the [TS]

01:17:19   closet [TS]

01:17:20   you know I last two years ago was it two [TS]

01:17:22   years ago I went to the conference on [TS]

01:17:24   world affairs right and I felt like a [TS]

01:17:26   really big wheel this two years ago I [TS]

01:17:30   felt so good i was there at the [TS]

01:17:31   conference on world affairs there with [TS]

01:17:33   generals and scientists and and and old [TS]

01:17:36   people basically everybody there was old [TS]

01:17:38   except me and I was like this is it now [TS]

01:17:41   I'm going to be comments on world [TS]

01:17:42   affairs guy I'm gonna go every year [TS]

01:17:44   yep event when I die they're gonna say [TS]

01:17:46   he went to 40 conferences on world [TS]

01:17:48   affairs and and was you know a treasure [TS]

01:17:52   member of the community and then they [TS]

01:17:55   did not invite me back [TS]

01:17:57   yeah and sometime between last year when [TS]

01:18:01   they didn't invite me back and now they [TS]

01:18:04   realized that that the internet and [TS]

01:18:06   email was not going to go away it was [TS]

01:18:08   here to stay and so they compile the [TS]

01:18:11   list of conference on world affairs to [TS]

01:18:13   attendees and started sending them a [TS]

01:18:16   compliment world affairs spam emails but [TS]

01:18:19   they put you on the list to put me on [TS]

01:18:21   the list [TS]

01:18:22   oh that's emeriti and so the comments on [TS]

01:18:25   world affairs just happened this past [TS]

01:18:27   week and every day there was a like [TS]

01:18:30   today in conference on world affairs [TS]

01:18:32   news and thanks so much everyone and [TS]

01:18:34   you're the past and here's where you can [TS]

01:18:37   donate and all this and i'm just like [TS]

01:18:39   fuck you a thousand times like I am NOT [TS]

01:18:44   a enthusiastic Congress on world affairs [TS]

01:18:46   alum i am a bitterly disappointed i [TS]

01:18:49   think you're disgruntled John I'm [TS]

01:18:51   disgruntled you know of all the things [TS]

01:18:53   of all the places that I felt like I [TS]

01:18:55   belonged [TS]

01:18:56   finally someone had recognized that I [TS]

01:18:58   belonged at a conference on world [TS]

01:19:00   affairs [TS]

01:19:01   maybe you were too real for them you're [TS]

01:19:03   thought of that I feel like what they [TS]

01:19:05   thought what they thought was that I was [TS]

01:19:07   gonna that i was going to sing for my [TS]

01:19:09   supper i was going to come and the [TS]

01:19:11   generals and the and the captains of [TS]

01:19:14   industry and the Titans we're going to [TS]

01:19:17   at the end of the day [TS]

01:19:18   relax to me shuckin and jivin with my [TS]

01:19:21   guitar with a bunch of other a [TS]

01:19:24   like the guitar players and that that [TS]

01:19:27   was where I belong [TS]

01:19:28   this is free with this for you played [TS]

01:19:30   with the band yeah man and I can i turn [TS]

01:19:34   my volume on my guitar all the way there [TS]

01:19:36   because way no idea what they were doing [TS]

01:19:38   right i love the stories they were [TS]

01:19:40   jazzing and I'd write chance and so they [TS]

01:19:44   don't know how to diminish anything but [TS]

01:19:46   iono I the only thing I know how to [TS]

01:19:49   diminish is other people at the cocktail [TS]

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