Roderick on the Line

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00:00:20 ◼   ► hello hi John [TS]

00:00:23 ◼   ► hi Merlin how's it going pretty good [TS]

00:00:26 ◼   ► it's very good but a while since we've [TS]

00:00:28 ◼   ► talked [TS]

00:00:29 ◼   ► yeah yeah we usually record on mondays [TS]

00:00:33 ◼   ► like clockwork [TS]

00:00:35 ◼   ► it's like clockwork although it wasn't [TS]

00:00:36 ◼   ► always wasn't we recorded on tuesdays i [TS]

00:00:42 ◼   ► think at one point [TS]

00:00:43 ◼   ► yeah we're pretty clockwork hear you [TS]

00:00:45 ◼   ► where we are in episode 197 of the show [TS]

00:00:50 ◼   ► you're kidding me that's like flirty [TS]

00:00:52 ◼   ► that's like 13,000 hours [TS]

00:00:53 ◼   ► what does that mean does it mean when we [TS]

00:00:55 ◼   ► get to 200 what's going to happen [TS]

00:00:57 ◼   ► okay enough with the odometer I don't [TS]

00:00:59 ◼   ► know I feel like a 2200 be one of us [TS]

00:01:02 ◼   ► should die 100 in some kind of fiery car [TS]

00:01:06 ◼   ► wreck and then then it's just whatever [TS]

00:01:08 ◼   ► it's just complete you know like it's [TS]

00:01:10 ◼   ► just a it's a box you say maybe you and [TS]

00:01:12 ◼   ► me we do a film & Louise [TS]

00:01:14 ◼   ► yeah when people love that you're pretty [TS]

00:01:17 ◼   ► good driver [TS]

00:01:18 ◼   ► uh yeah we stupid slowly direct the RV [TS]

00:01:22 ◼   ► off a cliff [TS]

00:01:23 ◼   ► almost there to hunt on hundred ninety [TS]

00:01:31 ◼   ► seven episodes that's really something [TS]

00:01:34 ◼   ► that's that's the best news I've had all [TS]

00:01:36 ◼   ► day [TS]

00:01:36 ◼   ► no I'm so glad it's good to hear your [TS]

00:01:38 ◼   ► voice yeah it's nice to hear your voice [TS]

00:01:40 ◼   ► whoo alright tell ya I'm back you know I [TS]

00:01:45 ◼   ► yeah let's talk about ya back [TS]

00:01:47 ◼   ► yeah that's true that's true mom's [TS]

00:01:49 ◼   ► spaghetti uh-huh [TS]

00:01:52 ◼   ► the whole incident that that's the last [TS]

00:01:55 ◼   ► episode really set me back to some old [TS]

00:01:57 ◼   ► eighties wrap em oh did you did you go [TS]

00:02:00 ◼   ► through a little mode we know we've [TS]

00:02:02 ◼   ► talked about Falco and I guess Falco was [TS]

00:02:06 ◼   ► kind of slightly famous for the original [TS]

00:02:09 ◼   ► german version of their commissar yeah [TS]

00:02:11 ◼   ► thank you when Falco three came out you [TS]

00:02:13 ◼   ► know my friend DJ maybe a cassette maybe [TS]

00:02:16 ◼   ► a little maxell it had Falco three on [TS]

00:02:19 ◼   ► one side and whatever the breakthrough [TS]

00:02:22 ◼   ► Robert Palmer album was on the 001 was [TS]

00:02:24 ◼   ► addicted to love and all yeah yeah yeah [TS]

00:02:26 ◼   ► and boy it will that be 1984 I think [TS]

00:02:30 ◼   ► happened oh man that was the soundtrack [TS]

00:02:32 ◼   ► for me [TS]

00:02:32 ◼   ► putting that in putting that in the [TS]

00:02:35 ◼   ► jetta no i'm sorry the the rabbit didn't [TS]

00:02:38 ◼   ► even have a car and put in other [TS]

00:02:39 ◼   ► people's car when DJ's LeBaron Vienna [TS]

00:02:42 ◼   ► calling the LeBaron that was a quiet you [TS]

00:02:45 ◼   ► know that had Corinthian leather always [TS]

00:02:47 ◼   ► at the one [TS]

00:02:48 ◼   ► yeah the Chrysler Cordoba all the [TS]

00:02:50 ◼   ► Cordoba had Corinthian leather but you [TS]

00:02:52 ◼   ► know the LeBaron was built on the same [TS]

00:02:56 ◼   ► platform maybe yeah yeah yeah don't get [TS]

00:02:59 ◼   ► too deep into the Chrysler a markay [TS]

00:03:02 ◼   ► you're gonna get a set from the French [TS]

00:03:04 ◼   ► yeah now you're gonna get letters you're [TS]

00:03:07 ◼   ► gonna get letters from the Chrysler fans [TS]

00:03:08 ◼   ► remember the k-car around terrible that [TS]

00:03:10 ◼   ► was you know I used to pick a car [TS]

00:03:12 ◼   ► obviously for those of us who lived [TS]

00:03:14 ◼   ► through that time the k-car was right [TS]

00:03:16 ◼   ► about a universal joke an example of [TS]

00:03:19 ◼   ► like the shitty car [TS]

00:03:21 ◼   ► I mean that's like how long did they [TS]

00:03:22 ◼   ► take on that name the cake are used to [TS]

00:03:25 ◼   ► have with cars like like you have a [TS]

00:03:26 ◼   ► charger or a barracuda or a comet and [TS]

00:03:30 ◼   ► now this is the end k cart slice the [TS]

00:03:32 ◼   ► cake card special k but I had a friend [TS]

00:03:35 ◼   ► whose father was a bush pilot and their [TS]

00:03:40 ◼   ► old car was like a 1968 Jeep pickup a [TS]

00:03:45 ◼   ► which was like it's probably the [TS]

00:03:50 ◼   ► burliest it was just 11 increment below [TS]

00:03:55 ◼   ► being a military-grade truck you know it [TS]

00:03:58 ◼   ► was a it was a it was huge [TS]

00:04:00 ◼   ► it's not what we think of is as cheap [TS]

00:04:02 ◼   ► scale it was like sort of vietnam-era [TS]

00:04:04 ◼   ► jeep a half her like three-quarter-ton [TS]

00:04:09 ◼   ► pickup and and he only referred to it he [TS]

00:04:14 ◼   ► he never pronounce the J it was always [TS]

00:04:16 ◼   ► the eep eep eep but his father at one [TS]

00:04:21 ◼   ► point I decided to get a new car and he [TS]

00:04:24 ◼   ► bought a cake are a k-car wagon out here [TS]

00:04:28 ◼   ► and always laughing stock haha cake our [TS]

00:04:33 ◼   ► wagon law [TS]

00:04:34 ◼   ► oh no this is awful but they have panels [TS]

00:04:38 ◼   ► and didn't have panels it was even it [TS]

00:04:41 ◼   ► was even lower grade than that and it [TS]

00:04:43 ◼   ► had [TS]

00:04:43 ◼   ► manual transmission which I i challenge [TS]

00:04:47 ◼   ► you to find a k-car well first of all I [TS]

00:04:50 ◼   ► can't you find a k-car that still [TS]

00:04:52 ◼   ► survives [TS]

00:04:53 ◼   ► uh-huh but find one with a manual [TS]

00:04:55 ◼   ► transmission even at the time it was [TS]

00:04:56 ◼   ► like you get in the car to go what the [TS]

00:04:58 ◼   ► hell is that what is that by that time [TS]

00:05:00 ◼   ► and I mean I feel like the only reason [TS]

00:05:02 ◼   ► to buy a manual at that point was just [TS]

00:05:05 ◼   ► like save a hundred bucks [TS]

00:05:06 ◼   ► mhm honest yeah this guy is he was going [TS]

00:05:09 ◼   ► down the he was going down that the [TS]

00:05:11 ◼   ► sheet he was just not taking any box now [TS]

00:05:14 ◼   ► I don't want the undercoating no I don't [TS]

00:05:16 ◼   ► want the I don't want the cloth uh you [TS]

00:05:19 ◼   ► know the the cloth on the inside I don't [TS]

00:05:22 ◼   ► want the cup I don't want to comment or [TS]

00:05:24 ◼   ► I don't want our clock they put that on [TS]

00:05:26 ◼   ► the fact that sucks my manager him know [TS]

00:05:28 ◼   ► all that true clothes to go right [TS]

00:05:31 ◼   ► um but but then you get in the thing and [TS]

00:05:35 ◼   ► and it was like this totally wine d like [TS]

00:05:39 ◼   ► zippy crazy little I mean it felt like [TS]

00:05:43 ◼   ► you were driving a shoebox but but that [TS]

00:05:46 ◼   ► the manual transmission just brought [TS]

00:05:47 ◼   ► alive and all of a sudden you know he [TS]

00:05:49 ◼   ► was beating like scirocco za off the [TS]

00:05:51 ◼   ► line in this cake car and he drove the [TS]

00:05:54 ◼   ► the the crap out of it but but it it was [TS]

00:05:59 ◼   ► like at GTI level of acceleration in in [TS]

00:06:02 ◼   ► 1984 wow and i had to say you know what [TS]

00:06:07 ◼   ► k car respect I can't up it but I can't [TS]

00:06:11 ◼   ► say shit about cars anymore and I don't [TS]

00:06:13 ◼   ► even know what we're do you direct your [TS]

00:06:16 ◼   ► ire at that point [TS]

00:06:17 ◼   ► yeah the Pacer that's not even a [TS]

00:06:19 ◼   ► contemporary thing anymore [TS]

00:06:21 ◼   ► yeah yeah you know i'm looking at this [TS]

00:06:24 ◼   ► now and I mean at the time it struck him [TS]

00:06:26 ◼   ► struck me as very much an American car [TS]

00:06:28 ◼   ► but looking at it now I mean I'm not a [TS]

00:06:30 ◼   ► car guy but it looks a lot like a cheap [TS]

00:06:33 ◼   ► toyota corolla or something yeah it was [TS]

00:06:37 ◼   ► it was there it was their import killer [TS]

00:06:39 ◼   ► remember how every every third car was [TS]

00:06:42 ◼   ► like all this this one's the import [TS]

00:06:44 ◼   ► killer for all those years people buying [TS]

00:06:46 ◼   ► these crappy Japanese car you really [TS]

00:06:48 ◼   ► want this old-world American craftsmen [TS]

00:06:50 ◼   ► shots right this one this is the one you [TS]

00:06:52 ◼   ► know it gets gets good gas mileage this [TS]

00:06:55 ◼   ► one and [TS]

00:06:56 ◼   ► and it's gonna kill all those Japanese [TS]

00:06:59 ◼   ► cars pouring into our shores didn't [TS]

00:07:03 ◼   ► didn't kill them didn't kill I remember [TS]

00:07:05 ◼   ► always thinking because because we were [TS]

00:07:06 ◼   ► cheap in these matters so we would get [TS]

00:07:09 ◼   ► you know whatever the delco am/fm radio [TS]

00:07:12 ◼   ► with the buttons on it we never had [TS]

00:07:14 ◼   ► anything to tricked-out but I remember [TS]

00:07:15 ◼   ► thinking that the height of cool was [TS]

00:07:16 ◼   ► like having a cassette player in your [TS]

00:07:18 ◼   ► car [TS]

00:07:19 ◼   ► no you know he's putting you put it you [TS]

00:07:22 ◼   ► like it laughing we're going like [TS]

00:07:23 ◼   ► sideways remember that course when I got [TS]

00:07:26 ◼   ► my VW bus one of the first things I did [TS]

00:07:29 ◼   ► was I went to the the audio place and [TS]

00:07:31 ◼   ► have to put a little sony sony stereo in [TS]

00:07:33 ◼   ► it [TS]

00:07:34 ◼   ► yeah because you wanted to live but of [TS]

00:07:36 ◼   ► course it was a VW so the windows leaked [TS]

00:07:38 ◼   ► and the speaker's got all crackly did [TS]

00:07:40 ◼   ► the engine ever catch on fire [TS]

00:07:41 ◼   ► it's kind of like that's kind of [TS]

00:07:43 ◼   ► signature signature moment I told you I [TS]

00:07:45 ◼   ► told you I didn't change the oil enough [TS]

00:07:46 ◼   ► and seized up [TS]

00:07:47 ◼   ► yeah no tragedy I'm reading here the [TS]

00:07:49 ◼   ► Chrysler K car platform they made them [TS]

00:07:52 ◼   ► in all wheel drive which I have no way [TS]

00:07:57 ◼   ► so look looking down here at the [TS]

00:07:58 ◼   ► possible options you could get a 3.8 [TS]

00:08:01 ◼   ► liter v8 or arms or v6 still a big motor [TS]

00:08:06 ◼   ► you could get you your four-wheel drive [TS]

00:08:09 ◼   ► there's even a four door limousine [TS]

00:08:12 ◼   ► alright like that i had there was a [TS]

00:08:15 ◼   ► convertible like I don't know where that [TS]

00:08:17 ◼   ► is 2.2 litre turbo for turbo for that [TS]

00:08:23 ◼   ► they put a mitsubishi motors in at one [TS]

00:08:25 ◼   ► point [TS]

00:08:25 ◼   ► come on this was a hell of a car now [TS]

00:08:28 ◼   ► that I'm seeing it I just think a cars [TS]

00:08:30 ◼   ► as being I mean you know they're even [TS]

00:08:33 ◼   ► then kind of famously generic but also [TS]

00:08:35 ◼   ► it was always the drivers that car [TS]

00:08:37 ◼   ► oh right so we have memories are about [TS]

00:08:41 ◼   ► being like stuck in a car of course it [TS]

00:08:43 ◼   ► had no air-conditioning because they [TS]

00:08:44 ◼   ► wouldn't pay for that and you're stuck [TS]

00:08:45 ◼   ► in there with a bunch of teenagers [TS]

00:08:46 ◼   ► waiting to drive you know I worked up [TS]

00:08:49 ◼   ► the i worked as a canvasser on on the [TS]

00:08:54 ◼   ► the for the public interest research [TS]

00:08:57 ◼   ► group or pirg are you kidding that was [TS]

00:09:00 ◼   ► almost my first grown-up job working in [TS]

00:09:02 ◼   ► Boston [TS]

00:09:03 ◼   ► yeah i was i worked in Washington DC for [TS]

00:09:06 ◼   ► going on w fw part where they call it [TS]

00:09:08 ◼   ► was us pirg [TS]

00:09:09 ◼   ► this part and then it was sort of the [TS]

00:09:13 ◼   ► era of the the campaign to pass the [TS]

00:09:16 ◼   ► Clean Air Act em and support the Clean [TS]

00:09:19 ◼   ► Air Act Clean Water Act we were working [TS]

00:09:22 ◼   ► on a lot of Acts sure just like the [TS]

00:09:25 ◼   ► Apostle Paul we had a lot of axe to [TS]

00:09:27 ◼   ► grind down and so I moved over to the [TS]

00:09:32 ◼   ► National Environmental Law Center still [TS]

00:09:35 ◼   ► working kind of as a at that point a [TS]

00:09:36 ◼   ► canvas manager i wasn't i was wrangling [TS]

00:09:40 ◼   ► Canvassers that was the that was the [TS]

00:09:42 ◼   ► opportunity that i had to chauffeur [TS]

00:09:44 ◼   ► ralph nader around one afternoon that's [TS]

00:09:48 ◼   ► right we should remind listeners that [TS]

00:09:50 ◼   ► you had a rough period [TS]

00:09:51 ◼   ► yeah and that I during those days we [TS]

00:09:56 ◼   ► were driving k cars right like in the [TS]

00:09:58 ◼   ► morning we would have a big meeting [TS]

00:10:00 ◼   ► would be 80 kids all in the you know [TS]

00:10:04 ◼   ► we'd get it pumped up everybody had [TS]

00:10:06 ◼   ► their clipboard it was like all right [TS]

00:10:07 ◼   ► let's go out there and fight for the [TS]

00:10:09 ◼   ► environment and get the world the water [TS]

00:10:11 ◼   ► on the air and the eagles in America go [TS]

00:10:14 ◼   ► one time a the the Kennedy the Kennedy [TS]

00:10:21 ◼   ► that had read kind of red curly hair [TS]

00:10:24 ◼   ► mmm he didn't he didn't look like a [TS]

00:10:26 ◼   ► Kennedy in the same way that Sonny [TS]

00:10:28 ◼   ► didn't look like a core leone oh sure [TS]

00:10:31 ◼   ► you know what I mean like guys not [TS]

00:10:33 ◼   ► really even Italian [TS]

00:10:35 ◼   ► mm how did he get the how was he doing [TS]

00:10:38 ◼   ► he's got the undershirt but the hair [TS]

00:10:40 ◼   ► doesn't match the hair does imagine that [TS]

00:10:42 ◼   ► there's that there's the one Kennedy [TS]

00:10:43 ◼   ► that's like this it was the son of [TS]

00:10:46 ◼   ► robert maybe I think it needs were not [TS]

00:10:48 ◼   ► above putting somebody in an attic no no [TS]

00:10:51 ◼   ► that's right but this he was a [TS]

00:10:52 ◼   ► charismatic guy he was a congressman [TS]

00:10:54 ◼   ► right which one was he George Kennedy [TS]

00:10:57 ◼   ► know you got blue net heat red Kennedy [TS]

00:11:01 ◼   ► know make a 50x but he this Kennedy came [TS]

00:11:06 ◼   ► one morning [TS]

00:11:08 ◼   ► ok so it's so great if it turned out all [TS]

00:11:11 ◼   ► along George Kennedy was like part of [TS]

00:11:13 ◼   ► like a whole Hyannisport uh-huh [TS]

00:11:15 ◼   ► crowd yeah the whole time [TS]

00:11:19 ◼   ► uh let's see uh what was his name this [TS]

00:11:23 ◼   ► is gonna drive me crazy and I'm ziana is [TS]

00:11:27 ◼   ► it is an environmental Kennedy he was a [TS]

00:11:30 ◼   ► yes he was an environmental Kennedy he [TS]

00:11:34 ◼   ► was a up-and-coming Kennedy was a young [TS]

00:11:36 ◼   ► Kennedy Jesus and I'm getting there [TS]

00:11:41 ◼   ► ok i'm on the Kennedy family tree who he [TS]

00:11:43 ◼   ► be a sibling of move let's see here this [TS]

00:11:48 ◼   ► is it was it Joe Kennedy young Joe [TS]

00:11:51 ◼   ► Kennedy Joe Kennedy no I think young Joe [TS]

00:11:53 ◼   ► was the one who died in that horrible [TS]

00:11:54 ◼   ► accident [TS]

00:11:56 ◼   ► well young Joe had red hair noe's Joe [TS]

00:11:59 ◼   ► John Rose Kathleen Eunice Patricia Bobby [TS]

00:12:04 ◼   ► gene and Ed otherwise known as Ted know [TS]

00:12:10 ◼   ► Ethel Skakel no was an apple [TS]

00:12:14 ◼   ► anyway william cavendish mark with [TS]

00:12:17 ◼   ► partington maybe maybe his maybe you [TS]

00:12:20 ◼   ► know he married mary kathleen know it [TS]

00:12:22 ◼   ► could have been it could've been liev [TS]

00:12:24 ◼   ► schreiber and i always get them [TS]

00:12:27 ◼   ► liev schreiber sargent shriver it's a [TS]

00:12:29 ◼   ► common mistake anyway he came by one is [TS]

00:12:32 ◼   ► not a cold day would you love to be [TS]

00:12:33 ◼   ► named sergeant Shriver sargent shriver [TS]

00:12:35 ◼   ► well that's the thing about wasps right [TS]

00:12:37 ◼   ► they have the craziest names people with [TS]

00:12:40 ◼   ► the first name [TS]

00:12:41 ◼   ► mcgeorge what how do you enjoy the money [TS]

00:12:43 ◼   ► what a terrific name how do you get the [TS]

00:12:45 ◼   ► name mcgeorge is all they all have [TS]

00:12:46 ◼   ► terrific name's George George come in [TS]

00:12:49 ◼   ► now [TS]

00:12:51 ◼   ► ok here we go we got sons of God sons of [TS]

00:12:53 ◼   ► Ted no guys not a sign of Ted not a sign [TS]

00:12:56 ◼   ► of Ted okay so you got a Robert Shriver [TS]

00:13:02 ◼   ► William Kennedy Smith know he was a bad [TS]

00:13:05 ◼   ► guy William Kennedy Smith he was a he [TS]

00:13:07 ◼   ► was a date rape / always hear that [TS]

00:13:09 ◼   ► George magazine guy is always that which [TS]

00:13:11 ◼   ► magazine was was a John FK junior right [TS]

00:13:15 ◼   ► John John John John uh-huh right [TS]

00:13:18 ◼   ► no let's see here he was he was tall he [TS]

00:13:22 ◼   ► was charismatic just to be clear I'm [TS]

00:13:23 ◼   ► fine taking literally an hour to have to [TS]

00:13:25 ◼   ► do this [TS]

00:13:25 ◼   ► hi I'm just really enjoying the Kennedy [TS]

00:13:27 ◼   ► family tree right now I feel like he was [TS]

00:13:30 ◼   ► you know he came in he at the kennedy [TS]

00:13:32 ◼   ► smile but he looked a little bit like [TS]

00:13:34 ◼   ► Sonny Corleone e I it was nineteen [TS]

00:13:38 ◼   ► ninety he was in office he was in office [TS]

00:13:41 ◼   ► at the time he was he you know I'm [TS]

00:13:46 ◼   ► seeing now how many redheaded Kennedy's [TS]

00:13:48 ◼   ► there are if you want to if you want to [TS]

00:13:50 ◼   ► really talk about redheaded Kennedy's [TS]

00:13:53 ◼   ► yeah no ideal ideal anyway he came by so [TS]

00:13:57 ◼   ► we were driving k cars a lot at that [TS]

00:13:59 ◼   ► time and I came about was this is after [TS]

00:14:02 ◼   ► the alaska court William Kennedy Smith [TS]

00:14:04 ◼   ► no no we talked about William Kennedy [TS]

00:14:07 ◼   ► Smith already that's not him I'm sorry [TS]

00:14:08 ◼   ► was I was confusing him with patrick [TS]

00:14:11 ◼   ► patrick joseph kennedy patrick joe' if [TS]

00:14:13 ◼   ► can have a glass of Kennedy let's talk [TS]

00:14:15 ◼   ► about Patrick I think it was Pat Kennedy [TS]

00:14:17 ◼   ► Patrick always his idea to kind of like [TS]

00:14:21 ◼   ► guide [TS]

00:14:21 ◼   ► yeah yeah that but that's him oh no no [TS]

00:14:26 ◼   ► no that's not know he's younger than I [TS]

00:14:28 ◼   ► am he looks a he looks it looks like a [TS]

00:14:31 ◼   ► Kennedy a little flesh easier than a [TS]

00:14:32 ◼   ► typical Kennedy and somebody works for [TS]

00:14:34 ◼   ► Kennedy yeah yeah but then when he when [TS]

00:14:38 ◼   ► he starts when he starts pounding on the [TS]

00:14:40 ◼   ► table you're like are there it is [TS]

00:14:42 ◼   ► uh-huh there's the Kennedy him you know [TS]

00:14:44 ◼   ► you know I the Kennedys have played in [TS]

00:14:47 ◼   ► an outsized role probably in all of our [TS]

00:14:49 ◼   ► lives but in my family's life i think [TS]

00:14:51 ◼   ► the Kennedys were always a what were [TS]

00:14:55 ◼   ► they they were always about a shadow [TS]

00:14:57 ◼   ► that came across the land to Who I am [TS]

00:15:00 ◼   ► for a lot of reasons [TS]

00:15:02 ◼   ► yeah a lot I mean honestly I mean you [TS]

00:15:04 ◼   ► know there's all you [TS]

00:15:05 ◼   ► we know you grew up with friends you're [TS]

00:15:08 ◼   ► Catholic friends I have like pictures of [TS]

00:15:09 ◼   ► Kennedy and the Pope in the house right [TS]

00:15:11 ◼   ► that does the thing that was actually a [TS]

00:15:12 ◼   ► thing [TS]

00:15:13 ◼   ► and there's a whole sense of like the [TS]

00:15:15 ◼   ► camelot thing there's the sense of like [TS]

00:15:16 ◼   ► what was lost with that but there's also [TS]

00:15:18 ◼   ► that sense of like why can't our family [TS]

00:15:20 ◼   ► be like this right we're so close and [TS]

00:15:24 ◼   ► yet so far they're just they're just [TS]

00:15:26 ◼   ► Americans just like us who they didn't [TS]

00:15:29 ◼   ► you know they're not royalty how did [TS]

00:15:31 ◼   ► they come to be royalty [TS]

00:15:32 ◼   ► you gotta really be willing to rig an [TS]

00:15:34 ◼   ► election you gotta pay off some southern [TS]

00:15:36 ◼   ► sheriff's that helps a lot and you gotta [TS]

00:15:39 ◼   ► yeah you have to you know what it is [TS]

00:15:40 ◼   ► there so much in life that is the [TS]

00:15:42 ◼   ► product of just ambition which is a [TS]

00:15:45 ◼   ► thing that you either have a lot of a [TS]

00:15:49 ◼   ► medium amount of none so what it takes [TS]

00:15:53 ◼   ► to Scott your ambition you can be [TS]

00:15:54 ◼   ► somebody who has a lot of ambition but [TS]

00:15:57 ◼   ► yeah if you get Scott easily then take [TS]

00:15:59 ◼   ► it kind of ties like a campfire [TS]

00:16:01 ◼   ► I like that Scott your ambitions [TS]

00:16:03 ◼   ► catching the ambition I I think about [TS]

00:16:06 ◼   ► ambition all the time I think about my [TS]

00:16:08 ◼   ► own ambition I think about other [TS]

00:16:09 ◼   ► people's ambition you know you read that [TS]

00:16:11 ◼   ► you open those magazines and it's like [TS]

00:16:13 ◼   ► 100 young people under 100 all those are [TS]

00:16:16 ◼   ► really getting under my skin John and [TS]

00:16:18 ◼   ► you go all right let's see what's going [TS]

00:16:20 ◼   ► on here and it's like well 80 of these [TS]

00:16:21 ◼   ► had rich parents but uh some of these [TS]

00:16:24 ◼   ► people really did say never say die [TS]

00:16:27 ◼   ► yep and you go and nobody even really [TS]

00:16:29 ◼   ► encouraging them know we still work [TS]

00:16:32 ◼   ► really hard they did this stuff that [TS]

00:16:33 ◼   ► they needed to do they eventually got [TS]

00:16:35 ◼   ► recognized but didn't even have a big [TS]

00:16:37 ◼   ► impact there's no wonder it's another [TS]

00:16:38 ◼   ► thing [TS]

00:16:39 ◼   ► yeah yeah yeah they're just go go let's [TS]

00:16:41 ◼   ► let's you know deep deep deep and I [TS]

00:16:44 ◼   ► admire and I feel like it's I feel like [TS]

00:16:47 ◼   ► it's another it's another trait like [TS]

00:16:48 ◼   ► being able to throw a javelin hmm and we [TS]

00:16:52 ◼   ► we all know not to we watch the person [TS]

00:16:55 ◼   ► throw the javelin on the Olympics and [TS]

00:16:57 ◼   ► you and you say wow that's great [TS]

00:17:00 ◼   ► I but very few people say I wish I could [TS]

00:17:03 ◼   ► do that and almost no one measures their [TS]

00:17:06 ◼   ► measures the theirselves themselves or [TS]

00:17:09 ◼   ► their performance against the Olympic [TS]

00:17:11 ◼   ► javelin thrower like right I'm i'm not a [TS]

00:17:15 ◼   ► javelin thrower I work in an office like [TS]

00:17:18 ◼   ► a right that but to have a corresponding [TS]

00:17:21 ◼   ► like a trait that's that's maybe [TS]

00:17:26 ◼   ► just as as unusual or just as much a [TS]

00:17:30 ◼   ► kind of not a product of environment not [TS]

00:17:35 ◼   ► a question of how you were raised or [TS]

00:17:36 ◼   ► educated but just something that you [TS]

00:17:38 ◼   ► came onto this planet pre equipped with [TS]

00:17:41 ◼   ► to sit in your basement laboratory and [TS]

00:17:45 ◼   ► work on a thing until you have devised [TS]

00:17:47 ◼   ► something as universally life-changing [TS]

00:17:51 ◼   ► as the segway or you know like what like [TS]

00:17:56 ◼   ► somebody who just as a single-minded [TS]

00:17:58 ◼   ► dedication to either science or or [TS]

00:18:01 ◼   ► business or whatever but we all we all [TS]

00:18:04 ◼   ► kind of measure ourselves against those [TS]

00:18:07 ◼   ► people right and you know in search our [TS]

00:18:11 ◼   ► history and search ourselves like why [TS]

00:18:13 ◼   ► did I not why am i not capable of this [TS]

00:18:16 ◼   ► level of achievement but I really do I [TS]

00:18:20 ◼   ► really do suspect that it's that it's a [TS]

00:18:23 ◼   ► that it's a trait kind of like almost [TS]

00:18:25 ◼   ► like the color of your eyes [TS]

00:18:27 ◼   ► I don't know but you know like like not [TS]

00:18:31 ◼   ► to not to dive too deeply into this but [TS]

00:18:33 ◼   ► like you were in san francisco at the at [TS]

00:18:36 ◼   ► the you know through the whole boom [TS]

00:18:39 ◼   ► you knew all those guys they respected [TS]

00:18:41 ◼   ► you and loved you and you know you were [TS]

00:18:44 ◼   ► like you were like a a person unknown [TS]

00:18:50 ◼   ► person in that time but you didn't and [TS]

00:18:53 ◼   ► it's not like you were it's not like you [TS]

00:18:55 ◼   ► were any less brilliant but you didn't [TS]

00:18:59 ◼   ► you didn't decide to make an appt count [TS]

00:19:01 ◼   ► all right I didn't actually realize in [TS]

00:19:04 ◼   ► the chief well are just like you didn't [TS]

00:19:06 ◼   ► student super achieve there are so many [TS]

00:19:09 ◼   ► so many of those people that were just [TS]

00:19:11 ◼   ► kind of wandering around the same chat [TS]

00:19:13 ◼   ► rooms that you were who are like you [TS]

00:19:15 ◼   ► know what you know what we need right [TS]

00:19:17 ◼   ► now is an app that or you know were [TS]

00:19:19 ◼   ► invented the app or invented the word [TS]

00:19:20 ◼   ► blog or whatever [TS]

00:19:22 ◼   ► yeah buddy you know the other thing [TS]

00:19:24 ◼   ► about I like your javelin example [TS]

00:19:25 ◼   ► because I think that's somewhat [TS]

00:19:27 ◼   ► indicative of why this becomes [TS]

00:19:28 ◼   ► complicated like you [TS]

00:19:30 ◼   ► you've met you had good hamburgers and [TS]

00:19:32 ◼   ► bad hamburgers in your life in any given [TS]

00:19:34 ◼   ► month you've probably had a handful of [TS]

00:19:35 ◼   ► hamburgers because this was really good [TS]

00:19:37 ◼   ► this one is not the problem is your only [TS]

00:19:39 ◼   ► probably aware of like one javelin [TS]

00:19:40 ◼   ► person and that's somebody using the [TS]

00:19:42 ◼   ► Olympics and see my look at javelin and [TS]

00:19:44 ◼   ► go okay that's the thing i could do or [TS]

00:19:45 ◼   ► like Fonzie with the snatching the coins [TS]

00:19:47 ◼   ► office arm you know [TS]

00:19:48 ◼   ► uh-huh si III disagree somewhat in that [TS]

00:19:51 ◼   ► I would often see an obscure talent on [TS]

00:19:53 ◼   ► TV and then think this is gonna be my [TS]

00:19:55 ◼   ► ticket and for a while I thought it was [TS]

00:19:57 ◼   ► stashing coins off my arm haha really i [TS]

00:20:00 ◼   ► was a child right did you try that for a [TS]

00:20:03 ◼   ► long time [TS]

00:20:04 ◼   ► come on we got some rolls of pennies and [TS]

00:20:05 ◼   ► I unrolled them and then I would see how [TS]

00:20:07 ◼   ► many i could do and how what's your [TS]

00:20:10 ◼   ► what's your top top run i don't remember [TS]

00:20:13 ◼   ► i just pennies scattering all over the [TS]

00:20:16 ◼   ► living room well I'm and now I'm also [TS]

00:20:20 ◼   ► just perplexed by the idea that somebody [TS]

00:20:21 ◼   ► wrote an episode of happy days that was [TS]

00:20:23 ◼   ► mostly about snatching coins off your [TS]

00:20:25 ◼   ► elbow [TS]

00:20:25 ◼   ► well you remember that was this the jump [TS]

00:20:28 ◼   ► the shark air this was doing I don't you [TS]

00:20:31 ◼   ► know this might be a fever dream john [TS]

00:20:32 ◼   ► i'm pretty sure there was an episode of [TS]

00:20:34 ◼   ► happy and I don't even think it was like [TS]

00:20:36 ◼   ► an eighties happy days i think it was [TS]

00:20:38 ◼   ► still while she was wearing a white [TS]

00:20:39 ◼   ► shirt i could be wrong but there [TS]

00:20:41 ◼   ► whatsoever i was in ohio i do remember [TS]

00:20:43 ◼   ► this and there was an episode that [TS]

00:20:44 ◼   ► involved the ability to stack a bunch of [TS]

00:20:48 ◼   ► coins that basically imagine that you're [TS]

00:20:50 ◼   ► bending your arm so that your palm is [TS]

00:20:52 ◼   ► almost on your shoulder facing up your [TS]

00:20:54 ◼   ► forearms parallel with the ground you [TS]

00:20:56 ◼   ► stack coins just above where your elbow [TS]

00:20:59 ◼   ► would be and then you go snap and you [TS]

00:21:02 ◼   ► see how many coins you can grab off of [TS]

00:21:03 ◼   ► your elbow using your hand [TS]

00:21:05 ◼   ► oh oh yeah I was always got involved in [TS]

00:21:07 ◼   ► a competition about this is what I [TS]

00:21:10 ◼   ► remember somebody wrote that somebody [TS]

00:21:12 ◼   ► somebody spit balling that this could be [TS]

00:21:13 ◼   ► cocaine this could very easily be [TS]

00:21:15 ◼   ► cocaine [TS]

00:21:15 ◼   ► it seems to me that this was this was [TS]

00:21:17 ◼   ► one of those things where you're sitting [TS]

00:21:18 ◼   ► around here like we got to come up with [TS]

00:21:20 ◼   ► an episode we got to come up with [TS]

00:21:21 ◼   ► another thing that's like what can you [TS]

00:21:23 ◼   ► what can you do Henry Winkler and he's [TS]

00:21:25 ◼   ► like well i mean i can stick a cigarette [TS]

00:21:27 ◼   ► my nose they're like I don't think so [TS]

00:21:30 ◼   ► have you ever seen this and he like snap [TS]

00:21:32 ◼   ► the you know did this that the coins [TS]

00:21:35 ◼   ► they were like that's it you know ok [TS]

00:21:37 ◼   ► I've found a clip on youtube its back [TS]

00:21:41 ◼   ► there still in Arnolds are funsies [TS]

00:21:43 ◼   ► in the white t-shirt has not moved the [TS]

00:21:45 ◼   ► black t-shirt the slimming black t-shirt [TS]

00:21:46 ◼   ► so still in the white t-shirt and it [TS]

00:21:50 ◼   ► looks like only a look at here's a video [TS]

00:21:51 ◼   ► of henry winkler doing the trick today [TS]

00:21:53 ◼   ► look at that you can still do it i guess [TS]

00:21:55 ◼   ► so he seems like a very gifted guy but [TS]

00:22:00 ◼   ► now I for those of you at home who were [TS]

00:22:03 ◼   ► shouting at me about the Kennedys it was [TS]

00:22:07 ◼   ► Joe Kennedy to electric bill that he was [TS]

00:22:13 ◼   ► the oldest son of robert f kennedy so [TS]

00:22:16 ◼   ► our F K's oldest boy born and 52 which [TS]

00:22:20 ◼   ► means you know he was eight years old [TS]

00:22:22 ◼   ► when his uncle was elected president he [TS]

00:22:25 ◼   ► was there for the whole show you Ailee [TS]

00:22:27 ◼   ► given that name again Joe p Kennedy to [TS]

00:22:30 ◼   ► channel p0p Kennedy to tell this [TS]

00:22:35 ◼   ► grandson of joe p Kennedy senior huh [TS]

00:22:38 ◼   ► I you know I met the man he was a he was [TS]

00:22:41 ◼   ► he was wonderful but a and he was a he [TS]

00:22:45 ◼   ► was in the house of representatives and [TS]

00:22:47 ◼   ► this isn't even on your rhetoric Joseph [TS]

00:22:50 ◼   ► Kennedy to know Joseph people for the [TS]

00:22:52 ◼   ► love of Christ I'll have the same name [TS]

00:22:54 ◼   ► I know tube and then there's Kennedy p [TS]

00:22:56 ◼   ► Kennedy to Kennedy Kennedy the Kennedy [TS]

00:23:00 ◼   ► there's there's PP Kennedy with Kennedy [TS]

00:23:02 ◼   ► i was just reading about reading about [TS]

00:23:04 ◼   ► Rosemary's lobotomy you know Joe asked [TS]

00:23:06 ◼   ► for that Joe asked that rosemary being [TS]

00:23:07 ◼   ► lobotomized and he was already one he [TS]

00:23:09 ◼   ► regretted in the rest of his life he did [TS]

00:23:11 ◼   ► you know that was a fact [TS]

00:23:12 ◼   ► yep you know a Hodgman met kick Kennedy [TS]

00:23:17 ◼   ► Oh kick Kennedy Kennedy the gel second [TS]

00:23:20 ◼   ► dick Kennedy was at the he was a [TS]

00:23:22 ◼   ► p-channel Martin he was talking to [TS]

00:23:25 ◼   ► somebody was like wow I've got this [TS]

00:23:26 ◼   ► person today and and she's so dynamic [TS]

00:23:29 ◼   ► and so like captivating and when she was [TS]

00:23:32 ◼   ► so cute [TS]

00:23:33 ◼   ► her name was kick who was that oh this [TS]

00:23:37 ◼   ► is Kathleen Cavendish otherwise known as [TS]

00:23:40 ◼   ► kick is it a younger kick [TS]

00:23:42 ◼   ► well they're so yeah there's a [TS]

00:23:43 ◼   ► contemporary kick my goodness there's a [TS]

00:23:46 ◼   ► there's a millennial kick [TS]

00:23:47 ◼   ► oh yeah she's got the job look at her [TS]

00:23:49 ◼   ► yep she can be on a television program [TS]

00:23:52 ◼   ► gtalk he talked to her for a while not [TS]

00:23:54 ◼   ► realizing that she was a Kennedy and [TS]

00:23:56 ◼   ► came away [TS]

00:23:56 ◼   ► the experience thinking like wow what a [TS]

00:23:58 ◼   ► dynamic person and then later on [TS]

00:24:00 ◼   ► somebody's like oh you mean kick Kennedy [TS]

00:24:02 ◼   ► it was like will you buy arms Yeah right [TS]

00:24:05 ◼   ► right right as you know he's a Bostonian [TS]

00:24:07 ◼   ► right [TS]

00:24:07 ◼   ► Kennedy's don't I mean you know a little [TS]

00:24:11 ◼   ► it's not it's not a real college town [TS]

00:24:13 ◼   ► yeah so yeah so Joe Kennedy I didn't [TS]

00:24:17 ◼   ► mean to derail though what we were [TS]

00:24:19 ◼   ► talking about which was [TS]

00:24:22 ◼   ► oh right the Kennedys when I didn't look [TS]

00:24:25 ◼   ► like all World Records apparently the [TS]

00:24:28 ◼   ► the world records called coin snatching [TS]

00:24:30 ◼   ► and like all World Records has come a [TS]

00:24:33 ◼   ► long way back in 1973 and all these all [TS]

00:24:37 ◼   ► these are apparently held by people in [TS]

00:24:39 ◼   ► great britain so maybe there's something [TS]

00:24:40 ◼   ► about the coins they're making 73 the [TS]

00:24:43 ◼   ► record was 39 coins right by 1985 you [TS]

00:24:47 ◼   ► get up to 70 coins a man called Ian [TS]

00:24:49 ◼   ► Gould as of April 1993 and I don't know [TS]

00:24:52 ◼   ► how long ago this page is updated he's [TS]

00:24:54 ◼   ► got 328 coins and is an amazing photo of [TS]

00:24:57 ◼   ► him snatching coin [TS]

00:24:59 ◼   ► this is incredible but then underneath [TS]

00:25:01 ◼   ► it says the record for a perfect catch [TS]

00:25:03 ◼   ► with no drops is 100 coins also by [TS]

00:25:07 ◼   ► adding gold [TS]

00:25:09 ◼   ► okay i mean i ordered what does that [TS]

00:25:11 ◼   ► mean no drops twice the idea is you see [TS]

00:25:15 ◼   ► is spray and pray right you just use me [TS]

00:25:17 ◼   ► as you can you catch what you can't [TS]

00:25:18 ◼   ► that's that seems pretty lame well so he [TS]

00:25:21 ◼   ► puts five star explodes 290 coins fly [TS]

00:25:24 ◼   ► everywhere he catches a hundred boy talk [TS]

00:25:27 ◼   ► about venture capital my right but that [TS]

00:25:29 ◼   ► whoa [TS]

00:25:30 ◼   ► but but I was very impressive like 328 [TS]

00:25:33 ◼   ► coins how many this is this begs the [TS]

00:25:35 ◼   ► question how many coins can someone [TS]

00:25:38 ◼   ► stack on their arm as a dude that's a [TS]

00:25:40 ◼   ► whole different questions very [TS]

00:25:41 ◼   ► interesting don't think i could even [TS]

00:25:42 ◼   ► afford to do this done i don't think i [TS]

00:25:43 ◼   ► have the cash reserve to be able to even [TS]

00:25:44 ◼   ► attended let alone the arm strength i [TS]

00:25:47 ◼   ► just want ya i want to see I want to see [TS]

00:25:49 ◼   ► like basically the world record for the [TS]

00:25:52 ◼   ► number of coins a person can stack on [TS]

00:25:54 ◼   ► their body at any times and still be [TS]

00:25:56 ◼   ► standing on their feet right I don't [TS]

00:25:58 ◼   ► want you laying on the ground [TS]

00:25:59 ◼   ► how many cars you can stack want you to [TS]

00:26:01 ◼   ► be standing on your feet with your arms [TS]

00:26:03 ◼   ► spread wide presents [TS]

00:26:05 ◼   ► yes and then how many coins can you [TS]

00:26:07 ◼   ► stack on this person [TS]

00:26:09 ◼   ► prices for what it's worth I get the [TS]

00:26:11 ◼   ► feeling from looking at google images [TS]

00:26:12 ◼   ► Dean gould of the United Kingdom he's [TS]

00:26:14 ◼   ► moved on from coins now he's all about [TS]

00:26:17 ◼   ► catching bar coasters [TS]

00:26:20 ◼   ► well so yeah right there they have a [TS]

00:26:22 ◼   ► little bit more hang time I guess so I [TS]

00:26:25 ◼   ► what's crazy for me here is that this [TS]

00:26:27 ◼   ► world records for coin snatching has no [TS]

00:26:30 ◼   ► there are no hyperlinks you can't meet [TS]

00:26:33 ◼   ► Andrew gleed you can't talk about you [TS]

00:26:36 ◼   ► can't go to see Chris Redford or like [TS]

00:26:39 ◼   ► and you know Andrew gleed state in the [TS]

00:26:40 ◼   ► running all the way through the nineties [TS]

00:26:42 ◼   ► what if you got sick or something [TS]

00:26:43 ◼   ► instantly was right in the running up [TS]

00:26:45 ◼   ► until the early nineties you started in [TS]

00:26:47 ◼   ► 78 and he and Dean gould we're going [TS]

00:26:49 ◼   ► head-to-head starting in the mid [TS]

00:26:51 ◼   ► eighties when the first bitcoin jump [TS]

00:26:52 ◼   ► happened [TS]

00:26:53 ◼   ► that's right oh you like 130-2 how do [TS]

00:26:54 ◼   ► you like 140 you really let me try 150cc [TS]

00:26:57 ◼   ► like us [TS]

00:26:57 ◼   ► yeah glee is like 151 then Google was [TS]

00:27:00 ◼   ► like boom 46 interface dng cleat says [TS]

00:27:03 ◼   ► you know it is far from done let's try [TS]

00:27:05 ◼   ► 217 217 gleed was the first one to go [TS]

00:27:08 ◼   ► above 200 and then there was a prophecy [TS]

00:27:10 ◼   ► one day there would be one who d 248 [TS]

00:27:12 ◼   ► yesterday [TS]

00:27:13 ◼   ► Stuart may who he just he's just some [TS]

00:27:16 ◼   ► some some prodigy some kid that comes in [TS]

00:27:18 ◼   ► off the street and then probably [TS]

00:27:20 ◼   ► suffered an aneurysm or or ended up [TS]

00:27:23 ◼   ► ended up as a chess checkers gotta shake [TS]

00:27:26 ◼   ► ya and then gold comes back to 50 [TS]

00:27:29 ◼   ► forever 328 suck it [TS]

00:27:32 ◼   ► oh my gosh you know Stuart maybe being [TS]

00:27:34 ◼   ► Stuart may is a little bit like being a [TS]

00:27:36 ◼   ► slightly well-known podcaster well first [TS]

00:27:38 ◼   ► of all nobody knows who you are and in [TS]

00:27:40 ◼   ► 2nd you have to explain why someone [TS]

00:27:41 ◼   ► would know who you are and that makes it [TS]

00:27:43 ◼   ► horribly awkward [TS]

00:27:44 ◼   ► alright so you did what now well here's [TS]

00:27:46 ◼   ► the thing is back in march of 1991 let [TS]

00:27:49 ◼   ► me explain is in March was around the [TS]

00:27:50 ◼   ► 20th of Mark 1991 I put 248 coins on my [TS]

00:27:54 ◼   ► arm I condom okay in yesterday that's [TS]

00:27:58 ◼   ► your name may be uh huh [TS]

00:28:03 ◼   ► I'm it been given more sing higher i was [TS]

00:28:07 ◼   ► reading some article where it talked in [TS]

00:28:09 ◼   ► invariably you end up talking to the i [TS]

00:28:13 ◼   ► guess the same 100 people but it was [TS]

00:28:15 ◼   ► they were talking to a teller right uh [TS]

00:28:18 ◼   ► yeah of penance of Penn & Teller teller [TS]

00:28:22 ◼   ► to me has always been the interesting [TS]

00:28:24 ◼   ► one or the one that I wanted to know [TS]

00:28:25 ◼   ► more about probably because he didn't [TS]

00:28:27 ◼   ► talk and that makes you what to know [TS]

00:28:29 ◼   ► more but he was saying kind of this what [TS]

00:28:32 ◼   ► he had an origin story like like so many [TS]

00:28:35 ◼   ► successful people I was like I was eight [TS]

00:28:38 ◼   ► years old and and that they they had an [TS]

00:28:42 ◼   ► offer for a magic kit on the Howdy Doody [TS]

00:28:45 ◼   ► show and I i sent away for it with three [TS]

00:28:49 ◼   ► boxtops an hour you know and half a [TS]

00:28:52 ◼   ► pickle and they sent me the magic kit [TS]

00:28:55 ◼   ► and it came and it was like totally [TS]

00:28:57 ◼   ► shoddy and garbage it was like it was [TS]

00:29:00 ◼   ► like the sea monkeys except made of [TS]

00:29:04 ◼   ► cardboard right shut it did a trick and [TS]

00:29:07 ◼   ► I figured out the trick and on Christmas [TS]

00:29:09 ◼   ► morning I showed all my relatives the [TS]

00:29:10 ◼   ► trick and they all politely applauded [TS]

00:29:12 ◼   ► and that hooked me on magic forever and [TS]

00:29:17 ◼   ► you know I read those stories and I'm [TS]

00:29:18 ◼   ► like oh yeah i did the same thing I got [TS]

00:29:21 ◼   ► the magic kit from the Howdy Doody show [TS]

00:29:23 ◼   ► and I learned the one trick and it made [TS]

00:29:27 ◼   ► me want to become a consumer advocate [TS]

00:29:28 ◼   ► yeah I got here because the valley the [TS]

00:29:31 ◼   ► rough nature of magic I was like this is [TS]

00:29:33 ◼   ► horseshit you know I did that the trick [TS]

00:29:36 ◼   ► the the people in the family clapped and [TS]

00:29:38 ◼   ► it gave me no feeling at all like it [TS]

00:29:41 ◼   ► didn't it didn't fill up the void inside [TS]

00:29:43 ◼   ► me it just you know the thing fell apart [TS]

00:29:45 ◼   ► in my hands and I was like maybe I'll be [TS]

00:29:47 ◼   ► a lawyer you know i didn't i didn't have [TS]

00:29:50 ◼   ► that moment and multiple times over the [TS]

00:29:53 ◼   ► course of my life right a thousand times [TS]

00:29:55 ◼   ► I've held some Excalibur in my hands and [TS]

00:30:01 ◼   ► tried to pull it from the stone and half [TS]

00:30:03 ◼   ► the time did pull it from the stone and [TS]

00:30:06 ◼   ► I was like yeah it was pretty good put [TS]

00:30:08 ◼   ► it back in the stone for the next guy [TS]

00:30:10 ◼   ► yeah sure that supply thing to do to put [TS]

00:30:11 ◼   ► the seat down yeah what do you take this [TS]

00:30:13 ◼   ► Excalibur you think it's yours you just [TS]

00:30:15 ◼   ► leave it by the stone well with you know [TS]

00:30:17 ◼   ► what do you get [TS]

00:30:18 ◼   ► I feel like I feel like that's a little [TS]

00:30:20 ◼   ► rude it would be like walking up to a [TS]

00:30:22 ◼   ► water fountain taking a drink and turn [TS]

00:30:24 ◼   ► it off the wall haha sure that excalibur [TS]

00:30:28 ◼   ► was like I'm sure that people assume [TS]

00:30:30 ◼   ► this was for me but I was taking every [TS]

00:30:34 ◼   ► every flag I see [TS]

00:30:36 ◼   ► the neighborhood were using that as a [TS]

00:30:38 ◼   ► way of navigating around like you go up [TS]

00:30:40 ◼   ► to the sword in the stone you take the [TS]

00:30:42 ◼   ► left you know and then all of a sudden [TS]

00:30:43 ◼   ► the sword is gone it's like I you see [TS]

00:30:47 ◼   ► the stone with the kind of sword-shaped [TS]

00:30:48 ◼   ► told me when you get there is the [TS]

00:30:51 ◼   ► ultimate example of imperialism you just [TS]

00:30:54 ◼   ► assumed if you find something and can [TS]

00:30:56 ◼   ► take it it should be yours [TS]

00:30:58 ◼   ► sure not only that but the ability the [TS]

00:31:01 ◼   ► ability to steal something that used to [TS]

00:31:03 ◼   ► be community property huh [TS]

00:31:05 ◼   ► now make sure the king and make sure the [TS]

00:31:06 ◼   ► King right you doing I'm the king now [TS]

00:31:08 ◼   ► all of a sudden boom you're mr. big [TS]

00:31:10 ◼   ► wheel and that and I'm sure that's what [TS]

00:31:12 ◼   ► teller did with the with the fake magic [TS]

00:31:14 ◼   ► box and like everybody's pulling swords [TS]

00:31:17 ◼   ► from stones all around us and walking [TS]

00:31:19 ◼   ► out into the world like well now i'm the [TS]

00:31:20 ◼   ► king because I mean what it means what [TS]

00:31:22 ◼   ► it meant of course was that teller then [TS]

00:31:23 ◼   ► pursued 17 years of single-minded like [TS]

00:31:28 ◼   ► learning card tricks and then we're [TS]

00:31:30 ◼   ► making people making quarters appear in [TS]

00:31:32 ◼   ► people's ears right yeah and then and [TS]

00:31:35 ◼   ► then he's a genius and so so I'm [TS]

00:31:37 ◼   ► wondering what is inside me or you or [TS]

00:31:40 ◼   ► most people or or I guess it's a better [TS]

00:31:44 ◼   ► asked what is inside them where it [TS]

00:31:47 ◼   ► really was a switch and then they just [TS]

00:31:49 ◼   ► knew what they wanted to do I mean I had [TS]

00:31:52 ◼   ► that conversation with paul f tompkins [TS]

00:31:54 ◼   ► one time when I was like yeah you know [TS]

00:31:55 ◼   ► comedy seems like a doable thing I i [TS]

00:31:58 ◼   ► like to make people laugh [TS]

00:31:59 ◼   ► sure and my friends tell me I'm funny [TS]

00:32:01 ◼   ► yeah and he said I have never wanted to [TS]

00:32:03 ◼   ► do anything else and i have done only [TS]

00:32:04 ◼   ► this my entire adult life from the time [TS]

00:32:07 ◼   ► I was a young boy I wanted to be a [TS]

00:32:09 ◼   ► comedian and I pursued it [TS]

00:32:10 ◼   ► single-mindedly my my whole life and in [TS]

00:32:12 ◼   ► a way he was saying he was saying no [TS]

00:32:15 ◼   ► comedy is not a not a fun thing that you [TS]

00:32:17 ◼   ► can just do and I was like okay that's [TS]

00:32:21 ◼   ► received but at the same time he's [TS]

00:32:23 ◼   ► absolutely right right I I mean I wanted [TS]

00:32:25 ◼   ► to be a comedian when i was ten years [TS]

00:32:26 ◼   ► old but I also wanted to be an astronaut [TS]

00:32:29 ◼   ► and absorbed juggler whatever you also [TS]

00:32:31 ◼   ► like whatever it is that you do and I'm [TS]

00:32:33 ◼   ► trying to go too far into my other [TS]

00:32:34 ◼   ► persona here but part of it is also you [TS]

00:32:36 ◼   ► got [TS]

00:32:37 ◼   ► there's gotta be something about the [TS]

00:32:38 ◼   ► business of what you do not necessarily [TS]

00:32:40 ◼   ► the economics and finance of it but [TS]

00:32:42 ◼   ► there's gotta be something about the [TS]

00:32:43 ◼   ► business of what you do that you find [TS]

00:32:46 ◼   ► you are [TS]

00:32:47 ◼   ► either really good at and/or enjoy doing [TS]

00:32:51 ◼   ► like you know you arguing with the guy [TS]

00:32:53 ◼   ► with the cigar in the role [TS]

00:32:55 ◼   ► hundred-dollar bills bucket and pay for [TS]

00:32:56 ◼   ► a gig like if you can't get with that as [TS]

00:32:58 ◼   ► part of your job and that's gonna be a [TS]

00:33:00 ◼   ► tough job for you right [TS]

00:33:02 ◼   ► it's gotta be the thing is when things [TS]

00:33:03 ◼   ► like we always notice this one thing [TS]

00:33:05 ◼   ► about it we go like oh yeah you know I [TS]

00:33:07 ◼   ► like to ride around in cars i'd probably [TS]

00:33:09 ◼   ► be a great mechanic that's a while not [TS]

00:33:11 ◼   ► necessarily I mean you like invoicing [TS]

00:33:12 ◼   ► like there's a lot to it beyond just you [TS]

00:33:15 ◼   ► know enjoying that field and I think [TS]

00:33:17 ◼   ► comedy is definitely like that [TS]

00:33:19 ◼   ► well my sister was walking around the [TS]

00:33:20 ◼   ► party the other day as she sometimes [TS]

00:33:23 ◼   ► does asking everybody the same question [TS]

00:33:26 ◼   ► what that was about joy John yeah it in [TS]

00:33:29 ◼   ► a way in a way she was saying to [TS]

00:33:31 ◼   ► everybody [TS]

00:33:32 ◼   ► what is the one thing that you [TS]

00:33:35 ◼   ► unashamedly would say that you were good [TS]

00:33:39 ◼   ► at like not you don't qualify it it [TS]

00:33:44 ◼   ► doesn't have to be anything bigger or [TS]

00:33:46 ◼   ► impressive but what's the one thing that [TS]

00:33:48 ◼   ► you will say you know without shame I'm [TS]

00:33:52 ◼   ► actually good at this writing get people [TS]

00:33:55 ◼   ► say are you good at ping-pong yeah I'm [TS]

00:33:57 ◼   ► alright ping-pong and maybe your killer [TS]

00:33:59 ◼   ► at ping-pong maybe you can't play at all [TS]

00:34:01 ◼   ► but must be like yeah i mean i can play [TS]

00:34:03 ◼   ► yeah I'm fine a ping-pong yeah I'm [TS]

00:34:05 ◼   ► pretty good at pool i guess you know but [TS]

00:34:07 ◼   ► what's the one thing that you are just [TS]

00:34:11 ◼   ► like yeah I'm good at that [TS]

00:34:13 ◼   ► I'm actually good and she was going [TS]

00:34:15 ◼   ► around and and getting like surprise [TS]

00:34:17 ◼   ► answers like I'm actually you know her [TS]

00:34:20 ◼   ► answer was I'm really good at [TS]

00:34:22 ◼   ► snowboarding and skiing and everything [TS]

00:34:24 ◼   ► else in my life photography you know [TS]

00:34:27 ◼   ► dancing whatever I'm you know like yeah [TS]

00:34:30 ◼   ► these are things that I'm pursuing [TS]

00:34:31 ◼   ► photography is my passion but i will [TS]

00:34:35 ◼   ► walk into any room in the world stand up [TS]

00:34:38 ◼   ► at the lectern and say I'm fucking great [TS]

00:34:39 ◼   ► skiing and you know and she's right and [TS]

00:34:43 ◼   ► and so I'm standing next to her and and [TS]

00:34:44 ◼   ► you know and there was a a like lot of [TS]

00:34:47 ◼   ► different answers a I young lady I know [TS]

00:34:50 ◼   ► well was like dancing and I looked and I [TS]

00:34:53 ◼   ► was like dancing you dance and she was [TS]

00:34:55 ◼   ► like yeah I'm a great dancer [TS]

00:34:58 ◼   ► that's the one thing that I would say [TS]

00:34:59 ◼   ► honey I never even seen you dance at [TS]

00:35:01 ◼   ► which point my sister's boyfriend said [TS]

00:35:03 ◼   ► I've never even seen Susan ski but these [TS]

00:35:07 ◼   ► are the things that they're like this is [TS]

00:35:08 ◼   ► the thing that I'm actually good and [TS]

00:35:09 ◼   ► then so they turned to me and they're [TS]

00:35:10 ◼   ► like what's the thing that you're [TS]

00:35:11 ◼   ► actually good at what is the one thing [TS]

00:35:13 ◼   ► you would say who and I was like uh huh [TS]

00:35:18 ◼   ► ah ping-pong like I don't I don't even I [TS]

00:35:22 ◼   ► don't even know talk talking [TS]

00:35:23 ◼   ► extemporaneously is that a thing you can [TS]

00:35:26 ◼   ► see it's just but it's also like I'm [TS]

00:35:28 ◼   ► with you it's also just not how I think [TS]

00:35:30 ◼   ► it's not how I think about myself and [TS]

00:35:32 ◼   ► other people i think it's a difference [TS]

00:35:35 ◼   ► and i'm not saying i mean first we agree [TS]

00:35:37 ◼   ► with you that guy would be put on the [TS]

00:35:38 ◼   ► spot like that I would feel the need as [TS]

00:35:40 ◼   ► a funny guy to come up with some kind of [TS]

00:35:42 ◼   ► an answer like I'm really good at doing [TS]

00:35:44 ◼   ► the dishes at the last minute or [TS]

00:35:45 ◼   ► something only I I honestly I couldn't [TS]

00:35:47 ◼   ► clean and it's actually not how I think [TS]

00:35:49 ◼   ► about myself it would be I would have to [TS]

00:35:51 ◼   ► make something up [TS]

00:35:53 ◼   ► well yeah and and I that's how I felt [TS]

00:35:56 ◼   ► too like uh i don't i don't know ice [TS]

00:36:01 ◼   ► extemporaneous speaking yeah right like [TS]

00:36:04 ◼   ► a lot what is the thing where you walk [TS]

00:36:06 ◼   ► into a room and you feel like you're [TS]

00:36:08 ◼   ► fine [TS]

00:36:09 ◼   ► I i can do that oh yeah i got if if you [TS]

00:36:14 ◼   ► if you had a microphone right now and [TS]

00:36:15 ◼   ► told me to go up on the stage and keep [TS]

00:36:17 ◼   ► everybody keep everybody's attention [TS]

00:36:19 ◼   ► distracted for 45 minutes while we will [TS]

00:36:22 ◼   ► heed conduct this bank robbery across [TS]

00:36:24 ◼   ► the street [TS]

00:36:25 ◼   ► oh look at me like i would go up to the [TS]

00:36:27 ◼   ► microphone be like excuse me everybody [TS]

00:36:29 ◼   ► hi so anyway one time you know and i [TS]

00:36:33 ◼   ► would like to do that [TS]

00:36:35 ◼   ► what is that yeah i mean anything is [TS]

00:36:37 ◼   ► there are way funnier people than me [TS]

00:36:39 ◼   ► there are way more they're way smarter [TS]

00:36:42 ◼   ► people than me like i don't i won't i [TS]

00:36:44 ◼   ► wouldn't even claim to get up there and [TS]

00:36:46 ◼   ► actually be entertaining for that 45 [TS]

00:36:47 ◼   ► minutes but I could do it without [TS]

00:36:49 ◼   ► without beer [TS]

00:36:52 ◼   ► yes so what that does definitely that's [TS]

00:36:55 ◼   ► unusual I feel the same way on that one [TS]

00:36:56 ◼   ► yeah definitely unusual I think we're [TS]

00:36:58 ◼   ► both probably pretty fun in the room [TS]

00:37:00 ◼   ► were super annoying on a podcast but in [TS]

00:37:01 ◼   ► the room I think we're both pretty good [TS]

00:37:03 ◼   ► with people [TS]

00:37:03 ◼   ► yeah pretty good pretty good people [TS]

00:37:05 ◼   ► would be surprised to hang out with us i [TS]

00:37:08 ◼   ► think yeah you're much less insufferable [TS]

00:37:10 ◼   ► then you would guess I've seen this [TS]

00:37:11 ◼   ► happen [TS]

00:37:12 ◼   ► at one another when the long winters [TS]

00:37:14 ◼   ► play in San Francisco Merlin generally [TS]

00:37:17 ◼   ► comes to the show and then after the [TS]

00:37:19 ◼   ► show everybody standing around writer is [TS]

00:37:21 ◼   ► a lot of people there they're all [TS]

00:37:22 ◼   ► they're all happy to be there it's a [TS]

00:37:24 ◼   ► rock show they've seen their they've [TS]

00:37:27 ◼   ► seen their favorite band or a band that [TS]

00:37:29 ◼   ► they like that they don't get to see [TS]

00:37:31 ◼   ► that often and they're socializing with [TS]

00:37:33 ◼   ► each other and stand around the merch [TS]

00:37:35 ◼   ► table and then you look across the room [TS]

00:37:36 ◼   ► and there's Merlin and there are between [TS]

00:37:40 ◼   ► six and ten people standing around [TS]

00:37:42 ◼   ► Merlin just trying to get part of the [TS]

00:37:45 ◼   ► just trying to get into the accident [TS]

00:37:47 ◼   ► including security security is it was [TS]

00:37:50 ◼   ► watchin sorry there are actually there [TS]

00:37:52 ◼   ► in the back but you know you're you're [TS]

00:37:55 ◼   ► holding court a little i'll hold some [TS]

00:37:56 ◼   ► Court you all court [TS]

00:37:58 ◼   ► well I love to hold a little course and [TS]

00:38:00 ◼   ► it's very fun people are people with it [TS]

00:38:03 ◼   ► it's so show it's like this is it yeah [TS]

00:38:06 ◼   ► right okay that's it [TS]

00:38:07 ◼   ► holding court is that a thing okay you [TS]

00:38:10 ◼   ► know what I'll do that [TS]

00:38:11 ◼   ► yes you're holding her I was gonna say [TS]

00:38:12 ◼   ► either I a having a near certainty that [TS]

00:38:16 ◼   ► everybody in the room is very close to [TS]

00:38:18 ◼   ► permanently hating you I'm great at that [TS]

00:38:19 ◼   ► and i'm also also pretty good at being [TS]

00:38:23 ◼   ► amusing in a certain context for up to [TS]

00:38:25 ◼   ► 90 seconds [TS]

00:38:26 ◼   ► yeah that's something that seems a [TS]

00:38:28 ◼   ► little too precious you're supposed to [TS]

00:38:29 ◼   ► say something like I make great cookies [TS]

00:38:32 ◼   ► yeah this is like I'm remembering now [TS]

00:38:34 ◼   ► wonderful episode of the TV program The [TS]

00:38:36 ◼   ► Simpsons where mrs. Hoover is Hoover [TS]

00:38:39 ◼   ► think she has Lyme disease and so Dustin [TS]

00:38:41 ◼   ► Hoffman comes in he's mr. Bergstrom [TS]

00:38:42 ◼   ► remember he comes in and he's the nice [TS]

00:38:44 ◼   ► teacher any ghosts around us all the [TS]

00:38:46 ◼   ► kids like what they can do it doesn't [TS]

00:38:47 ◼   ► matter how stupid it is like if you can [TS]

00:38:49 ◼   ► make a face like you the best person in [TS]

00:38:50 ◼   ► the world that and he makes all the kids [TS]

00:38:52 ◼   ► feel good about themselves [TS]

00:38:53 ◼   ► I could use a mr. Bergstrom today call [TS]

00:38:54 ◼   ► me too i woke up I still I still John [TS]

00:38:57 ◼   ► that is the only episode of the simpsons [TS]

00:38:59 ◼   ► that still consistently makes me cry [TS]

00:39:01 ◼   ► every single time i watch it gives you [TS]

00:39:03 ◼   ► remember how it ends it ends with mr. [TS]

00:39:05 ◼   ► mr. Bergstrom leaving on the train and [TS]

00:39:07 ◼   ► he gives Lisa and note remember that it [TS]

00:39:09 ◼   ► says i am lisa simpson for you are at [TS]

00:39:12 ◼   ► least something [TS]

00:39:13 ◼   ► mm okay i'll cut that out I got the [TS]

00:39:15 ◼   ► quote wrong but it still makes me cry [TS]

00:39:17 ◼   ► yeah I cry now you're Lisa Simpson i'm [TS]

00:39:19 ◼   ► crying inside because I'm really good at [TS]

00:39:21 ◼   ► crying inside i really want is I want to [TS]

00:39:24 ◼   ► just come up coming right out [TS]

00:39:26 ◼   ► say the first time I saw the simpsons I [TS]

00:39:29 ◼   ► was a little rock arkansas and you'll [TS]

00:39:32 ◼   ► notice that i pronounce it LOL wroclaw [TS]

00:39:34 ◼   ► Ross that sounds pronounced little rock [TS]

00:39:36 ◼   ► arkansas and I was like crashing on some [TS]

00:39:39 ◼   ► guys floor and Little Rock and he said [TS]

00:39:43 ◼   ► you ever seen the simpsons and it was [TS]

00:39:45 ◼   ► nineteen ninety i think and now but it [TS]

00:39:49 ◼   ► was already kind of a phenomenon project [TS]

00:39:51 ◼   ► it was going on [TS]

00:39:51 ◼   ► by this point and i said now I guess I [TS]

00:39:55 ◼   ► haven't I mean I've seen life in hell [TS]

00:39:57 ◼   ► yeah on the back page of many [TS]

00:39:59 ◼   ► alternative newspapers and i think its [TS]

00:40:01 ◼   ► response he was he's from Portland [TS]

00:40:03 ◼   ► writer or limit for Portland area so [TS]

00:40:05 ◼   ► he's probably phenom in the pnw at that [TS]

00:40:07 ◼   ► point right yeah he went to read like [TS]

00:40:09 ◼   ► with you know he was a his he was one of [TS]

00:40:12 ◼   ► the alternative comic strip writers he [TS]

00:40:15 ◼   ► was he had the one of the best strips in [TS]

00:40:17 ◼   ► your local liberal throwaway paper for [TS]

00:40:19 ◼   ► sure he was like I love life and I had a [TS]

00:40:21 ◼   ► life and help look for the simpsons i [TS]

00:40:22 ◼   ► love life and he'll how do you feel [TS]

00:40:23 ◼   ► about zippy dependent um I enjoyed [TS]

00:40:26 ◼   ► independent hit in head for its Dada [TS]

00:40:27 ◼   ► humor huh I didn't always get zippy but [TS]

00:40:30 ◼   ► i got i like the idea of zippy yeah [TS]

00:40:32 ◼   ► right or bizarro yeah i like all those [TS]

00:40:35 ◼   ► you got a lot of good stuff bizarre that [TS]

00:40:38 ◼   ► you cut those and put it on the fridge [TS]

00:40:39 ◼   ► sure of course those were like 20 [TS]

00:40:41 ◼   ► remaining as it was called a homer [TS]

00:40:43 ◼   ► those were those are like mini ted talks [TS]

00:40:45 ◼   ► like the original bazaars original [TS]

00:40:48 ◼   ► TEDTalk it was the original turns out [TS]

00:40:50 ◼   ► coming through [TS]

00:40:51 ◼   ► but uh but you know life in hell with [TS]

00:40:54 ◼   ► the animatic one eared rabbit and that [TS]

00:40:57 ◼   ► two little guys in fences that appeared [TS]

00:40:59 ◼   ► to love each other and appeared to be [TS]

00:41:00 ◼   ► gay with that guy Warren Jeff you know [TS]

00:41:02 ◼   ► those were all wonderful character Jeff [TS]

00:41:04 ◼   ► brothers lovers or both or both but so [TS]

00:41:08 ◼   ► I'm in little rock arkansas and this guy [TS]

00:41:10 ◼   ► sits me down i think probably puts a [TS]

00:41:13 ◼   ► bong in my lap and then puts in a VHS [TS]

00:41:17 ◼   ► cassette and forces me to watch between [TS]

00:41:22 ◼   ► 14 and forty VHS recorded Simpsons [TS]

00:41:26 ◼   ► episodes I don't know that's the best [TS]

00:41:27 ◼   ► way to do it all with starting at number [TS]

00:41:29 ◼   ► one and all the way you know with the [TS]

00:41:32 ◼   ► kind of VHS like sku problems along the [TS]

00:41:35 ◼   ► top of the screen [TS]

00:41:36 ◼   ► yep until I felt like I was in Clockwork [TS]

00:41:40 ◼   ► Orange just like he got a little vika [TS]

00:41:42 ◼   ► technique just like no not another one [TS]

00:41:43 ◼   ► not another was like don't know you [TS]

00:41:45 ◼   ► gotta watch the next one [TS]

00:41:46 ◼   ► it's amazing and from from that [TS]

00:41:50 ◼   ► experience right like I eventually left [TS]

00:41:54 ◼   ► little rock in a daze may be dragging [TS]

00:41:59 ◼   ► the bong I don't know I and from that [TS]

00:42:04 ◼   ► point on I would if I if I stumbled upon [TS]

00:42:08 ◼   ► a simpsons episode as I was flipping [TS]

00:42:11 ◼   ► through the channels in a hotel I would [TS]

00:42:13 ◼   ► greedily watch it yes I mean it's not [TS]

00:42:15 ◼   ► like it turned me off the simpsons but [TS]

00:42:18 ◼   ► also i pursued no methodical watching of [TS]

00:42:22 ◼   ► the simpsons so so a lot of that mean [TS]

00:42:26 ◼   ► there are a lot of people that presume [TS]

00:42:28 ◼   ► that i have seen 1000 simpsons is like [TS]

00:42:31 ◼   ► everyone else has but I have not [TS]

00:42:33 ◼   ► yeah and I and I've seen I've seen [TS]

00:42:36 ◼   ► because i went on the internet head and [TS]

00:42:39 ◼   ► watched be a are they saying boo or [TS]

00:42:44 ◼   ► burns i watch that like 40 times the [TS]

00:42:48 ◼   ► light because i loved it i thought it [TS]

00:42:50 ◼   ► was wonderful but anyway so no I don't [TS]

00:42:52 ◼   ► remember the one and I'm always for [TS]

00:42:54 ◼   ► something that's ok that's because [TS]

00:42:55 ◼   ► they're like to remember the one and I'm [TS]

00:42:57 ◼   ► like I don't remember [TS]

00:42:57 ◼   ► no III [TS]

00:42:59 ◼   ► help that I'm not that guy no you're not [TS]

00:43:00 ◼   ► you're not you're not but like I want I [TS]

00:43:03 ◼   ► I want to have what also so I did I went [TS]

00:43:06 ◼   ► on the internet and i said i want to [TS]

00:43:08 ◼   ► watch all the simpsons 'as at one point [TS]

00:43:11 ◼   ► and the internet said you cannot they [TS]

00:43:15 ◼   ► said you can buy a DVD [TS]

00:43:17 ◼   ► oh yeah that was the way for a while [TS]

00:43:18 ◼   ► here but you tell me now how would i go [TS]

00:43:21 ◼   ► watch the simpsons they're not on [TS]

00:43:23 ◼   ► YouTube are no they're on the cable you [TS]

00:43:25 ◼   ► can see them on on I think FX x IC so i [TS]

00:43:31 ◼   ► would have to have cable TV yet [TS]

00:43:33 ◼   ► something [TS]

00:43:33 ◼   ► yes that is something you need a TV to [TS]

00:43:35 ◼   ► know about this is no you're no you're [TS]

00:43:37 ◼   ► ok you're OK [TS]

00:43:39 ◼   ► yeah i mean part of the problem is also [TS]

00:43:40 ◼   ► the people that they're very people get [TS]

00:43:41 ◼   ► very like not snippy but they're like [TS]

00:43:44 ◼   ► well I've never seen Seinfeld murderer [TS]

00:43:46 ◼   ► and like well okay you know I've never [TS]

00:43:48 ◼   ► been to Paris [TS]

00:43:49 ◼   ► well who goes next wait have you never [TS]

00:43:52 ◼   ► been a pair of course I've never been to [TS]

00:43:53 ◼   ► Paris [TS]

00:43:53 ◼   ► oh merlin we need to go to Paris no no [TS]

00:43:56 ◼   ► I've been like four places and I was out [TS]

00:43:59 ◼   ► of the country a couple times you know [TS]

00:44:01 ◼   ► let me ask you this [TS]

00:44:02 ◼   ► yeah between the time you were boarded [TS]

00:44:05 ◼   ► and the time you graduate from college [TS]

00:44:09 ◼   ► how many houses did you have [TS]

00:44:13 ◼   ► oh yeah that's a really good question [TS]

00:44:15 ◼   ► well okay let me look for a minute set [TS]

00:44:18 ◼   ► aside college because that was a box one [TS]

00:44:19 ◼   ► right okay let's let's say the end of [TS]

00:44:21 ◼   ► high school mostly probably 45 45 [TS]

00:44:25 ◼   ► yeah I mean we yeah I mean it'sit's long [TS]

00:44:27 ◼   ► sad story but college man up [TS]

00:44:29 ◼   ► I can't I didn't excel spreadsheet one [TS]

00:44:31 ◼   ► day of love where I live [TS]

00:44:33 ◼   ► that's kind of thing i do I remember [TS]

00:44:35 ◼   ► like my federal spreadsheet you remember [TS]

00:44:37 ◼   ► that i can tell you exactly like you can [TS]

00:44:39 ◼   ► see the trend on the cost of ephedrine [TS]

00:44:41 ◼   ► ya know you had you had where to buy a [TS]

00:44:44 ◼   ► federal down to like zip codes [TS]

00:44:46 ◼   ► yeah I was like that that looks like a [TS]

00:44:48 ◼   ► crazy in this american life guy like [TS]

00:44:50 ◼   ► Wright and put his meat stickers in the [TS]

00:44:51 ◼   ► in the notebook [TS]

00:44:53 ◼   ► not today the today on the porch with 62 [TS]

00:44:55 ◼   ► degrees [TS]

00:44:56 ◼   ► the newspaper in eight ounces you sent [TS]

00:44:59 ◼   ► me a jar of federal one time and I fear [TS]

00:45:01 ◼   ► that I lost [TS]

00:45:02 ◼   ► oh god I would kill for that right now [TS]

00:45:03 ◼   ► or I fear that it was that it went into [TS]

00:45:05 ◼   ► some kind of thing works like this is a [TS]

00:45:07 ◼   ► bottle of undifferentiated pills that [TS]

00:45:10 ◼   ► i'm not sure what I should have said [TS]

00:45:12 ◼   ► I've given you some strange strange [TS]

00:45:14 ◼   ► things [TS]

00:45:14 ◼   ► yeah you don't have given you cold [TS]

00:45:16 ◼   ► medicine i given you a faedron I gave [TS]

00:45:18 ◼   ► you a bag and then a strap for a bag [TS]

00:45:21 ◼   ► making another bag i think you another [TS]

00:45:23 ◼   ► guy one time you gave me a few bags i [TS]

00:45:25 ◼   ► gave you like your mom [TS]

00:45:27 ◼   ► oh that's you gave me to give her a [TS]

00:45:29 ◼   ► wallet which ended up being mine [TS]

00:45:31 ◼   ► unbelievable years a handful of space [TS]

00:45:33 ◼   ► pens must be so strange to be my friend [TS]

00:45:38 ◼   ► one time you gave me a like a a little [TS]

00:45:41 ◼   ► pouch for your cell phone that would [TS]

00:45:43 ◼   ► strap onto the antennae back to bag so [TS]

00:45:45 ◼   ► timbuk2 bag was a good that was a good [TS]

00:45:47 ◼   ► pouch little pouch that and i think that [TS]

00:45:49 ◼   ► i think actually when you gave me that [TS]

00:45:52 ◼   ► you said I might want this back but for [TS]

00:45:55 ◼   ► now let's not do that [TS]

00:45:57 ◼   ► no it was not a double and I felt like [TS]

00:45:59 ◼   ► you were I felt like you were saying it [TS]

00:46:01 ◼   ► for some other reason you didn't [TS]

00:46:02 ◼   ► actually want it back and in fact you [TS]

00:46:04 ◼   ► didn't because i still have it before [TS]

00:46:05 ◼   ► and every time I pull it out i'm like [TS]

00:46:08 ◼   ► well here it is it's a pouch for your [TS]

00:46:10 ◼   ► cell phone from 2002 i'm not sure what [TS]

00:46:15 ◼   ► to do with it but i can't throw it away [TS]

00:46:16 ◼   ► because I got it from Merlin yeah i know [TS]

00:46:19 ◼   ► this is this is we talked about this [TS]

00:46:20 ◼   ► before this is the good box problem [TS]

00:46:22 ◼   ► yeah exactly right i think like we could [TS]

00:46:25 ◼   ► put tic tacs in here [TS]

00:46:26 ◼   ► yeah i could put what else can I put a [TS]

00:46:28 ◼   ► first-aid kit a tiny perfect what about [TS]

00:46:30 ◼   ► a sewing kit [TS]

00:46:31 ◼   ► you know what you could do it would be [TS]

00:46:33 ◼   ► you know it's small back in your small [TS]

00:46:35 ◼   ► but if you're like me like I use this [TS]

00:46:36 ◼   ► packing cubes like I mean loosen my in [TS]

00:46:38 ◼   ► my suitcase I'm not an animal i got a [TS]

00:46:40 ◼   ► great new suitcase by the way but anyway [TS]

00:46:42 ◼   ► i'm a bagman and so on until you are [TS]

00:46:45 ◼   ► you've always been my bag man I got bags [TS]

00:46:46 ◼   ► and bags so for example I've got AI got [TS]

00:46:48 ◼   ► a tambien backpack that I love Tom bill [TS]

00:46:51 ◼   ► back tom bombadil but that's a lord of [TS]

00:46:54 ◼   ► the rings the writers that a habit [TS]

00:46:56 ◼   ► that's a hobbit no it's not a hobby is [TS]

00:46:58 ◼   ► that he's like an eternal family and [TS]

00:47:00 ◼   ► Oakenshield he's got an eternal life and [TS]

00:47:02 ◼   ► he's confusing enough that they is not [TS]

00:47:05 ◼   ► he's not been included controversial [TS]

00:47:07 ◼   ► character not to be [TS]

00:47:09 ◼   ► ok but i do believe he's been sort of [TS]

00:47:12 ◼   ► he's been xed out of shit like the [TS]

00:47:15 ◼   ► poltergeist in harry potter just wasn't [TS]

00:47:17 ◼   ► room for him there wasn't room for tom [TS]

00:47:19 ◼   ► bombadil he doesn't advance the [TS]

00:47:21 ◼   ► narrative and enough for it all [TS]

00:47:24 ◼   ► yes and I think I think maybe he [TS]

00:47:26 ◼   ► reappears at one point but not it not [TS]

00:47:28 ◼   ► enough to to to turn the time [TS]

00:47:30 ◼   ► ok cell is not a Boromir right you [TS]

00:47:34 ◼   ► couldn't tell the story without a board [TS]

00:47:35 ◼   ► all know or yeah and forks works [TS]

00:47:39 ◼   ► yeah right remember the one where where [TS]

00:47:42 ◼   ► Lisa catches 400 coins of the offer [TS]

00:47:45 ◼   ► elbow [TS]

00:47:46 ◼   ► alright she's a she's not coming here in [TS]

00:47:49 ◼   ► the mention marriage is a perfect [TS]

00:47:51 ◼   ► yeah the one where Tom Selleck marries [TS]

00:47:53 ◼   ► the the Kennedy oh I remember that there [TS]

00:47:57 ◼   ► was dynasty [TS]

00:47:58 ◼   ► yeah I remember that time anyway Tom [TS]

00:48:00 ◼   ► Kenny was that was a game show host is [TS]

00:48:01 ◼   ► that right [TS]

00:48:02 ◼   ► Tom Kennedy I think wasn't in the Dirty [TS]

00:48:04 ◼   ► Dozen Dirty Dozen I think that's trini [TS]

00:48:06 ◼   ► lopez you're thinking of trini lopez [TS]

00:48:08 ◼   ► right i had his signature guitar for [TS]

00:48:10 ◼   ► lemon lemon tree smell so pretty and [TS]

00:48:12 ◼   ► damage on training Lopez David Grohl [TS]

00:48:15 ◼   ► David the role does he want dirty dozen [TS]

00:48:19 ◼   ► Jim Brown uh-huh [TS]

00:48:20 ◼   ► Jim Brown Jim Brown vs the Board of [TS]

00:48:22 ◼   ► Education be killed all those people in [TS]

00:48:24 ◼   ► Guiana right that's right Jim Jones [TS]

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00:51:52 ◼   ► on the line gameplay the treaty three [TS]

00:51:55 ◼   ► Lopez model guitar was a great guitar is [TS]

00:51:58 ◼   ► it little i know it was big and nobody [TS]

00:52:01 ◼   ► wanted it because it was weird and then [TS]

00:52:04 ◼   ► dave grohl started playing them and all [TS]

00:52:06 ◼   ► of a sudden you can't buy them for any [TS]

00:52:07 ◼   ► amount of kidding no isn't that weird [TS]

00:52:09 ◼   ► how that happens yeah it was just like [TS]

00:52:11 ◼   ► don't don't do that Dave Grohl stop [TS]

00:52:13 ◼   ► taking the cool things and making [TS]

00:52:15 ◼   ► everybody kind of it not a little like [TS]

00:52:17 ◼   ► and sg4 know it's BS LIC it looks a [TS]

00:52:21 ◼   ► little bit like an SG that double [TS]

00:52:23 ◼   ► cutaways ya see but look at the cutaways [TS]

00:52:26 ◼   ► sharp sharp it looks like it looks like [TS]

00:52:29 ◼   ► a Japanese guitar that wants to be [TS]

00:52:31 ◼   ► either an es what is that any s3 [TS]

00:52:34 ◼   ► combined with Rick it looks like that [TS]

00:52:36 ◼   ► better than Rick styling to it it's a [TS]

00:52:38 ◼   ► yeah it's there's a lot going on in a [TS]

00:52:41 ◼   ► trini lopez it's just a little too sharp [TS]

00:52:43 ◼   ► for my liking their work up there were a [TS]

00:52:45 ◼   ► couple of different versions of it there [TS]

00:52:47 ◼   ► was one that was really sharp and then [TS]

00:52:50 ◼   ► there was one that was just a 335 body [TS]

00:52:53 ◼   ► this is weird incident happened it's got [TS]

00:52:55 ◼   ► a weird week all about the bridge but [TS]

00:52:57 ◼   ► with the tailpiece it's got a [TS]

00:52:58 ◼   ► strange-looking tailpiece and it's got [TS]

00:53:00 ◼   ► all that it's got like a fender type [TS]

00:53:01 ◼   ► head so the headstock is like yeah from [TS]

00:53:04 ◼   ► a Firebird and it's got diamond shape of [TS]

00:53:07 ◼   ► holes anyway nobody wanted him you used [TS]

00:53:09 ◼   ► to be able to buy these things like [TS]

00:53:11 ◼   ► homers car that's a reference from the [TS]

00:53:12 ◼   ► simpsons it was they were like 700 bucks [TS]

00:53:15 ◼   ► because they just didn't look like a 335 [TS]

00:53:18 ◼   ► they just look weird right [TS]

00:53:19 ◼   ► uh by the it to our eyes at the time [TS]

00:53:22 ◼   ► they just looked strange i never owned [TS]

00:53:25 ◼   ► one because i thought they were weird i [TS]

00:53:27 ◼   ► was like ah I don't know shouldn't the [TS]

00:53:30 ◼   ► f-holes look like f's yeah it's not even [TS]

00:53:32 ◼   ► that Foles these Namdaemun holes the [TS]

00:53:34 ◼   ► diamond tools and that's not what you [TS]

00:53:36 ◼   ► get and though and the 335 with the [TS]

00:53:38 ◼   ► weird headstock like I saw one time I [TS]

00:53:40 ◼   ► saw a guy play a show you the the [TS]

00:53:43 ◼   ► the the bass player of the Soundgarden's [TS]

00:53:46 ◼   ► who had a band called hater and hater [TS]

00:53:49 ◼   ► was an extremely good band i highly [TS]

00:53:52 ◼   ► recommend if you can find haters first [TS]

00:53:53 ◼   ► album that you get it because it's [TS]

00:53:55 ◼   ► awesome [TS]

00:53:55 ◼   ► hater but he was the lead singer of [TS]

00:53:58 ◼   ► hater and he had a 10 I saw him at play [TS]

00:54:01 ◼   ► a show one time we had a telecaster with [TS]

00:54:03 ◼   ► a Fender neck [TS]

00:54:04 ◼   ► I'm sorry a telecaster with a Gibson [TS]

00:54:06 ◼   ► neck what a telecaster with the gibson [TS]

00:54:08 ◼   ► neck now just picture it for a second [TS]

00:54:10 ◼   ► and it was so wrong looking at it wasn't [TS]

00:54:15 ◼   ► cool right you want to think oh that's [TS]

00:54:17 ◼   ► cool [TS]

00:54:17 ◼   ► it sounds like something your death but [TS]

00:54:20 ◼   ► when someone's dad would make for them [TS]

00:54:22 ◼   ► well you know it's not that wide at the [TS]

00:54:23 ◼   ► widest fretboard it's got the the tuning [TS]

00:54:26 ◼   ► pegs on either side big had started [TS]

00:54:28 ◼   ► stock [TS]

00:54:29 ◼   ► uh yeah it does it sounds like something [TS]

00:54:31 ◼   ► that on Christmas morning you'd open up [TS]

00:54:32 ◼   ► the wrapping [TS]

00:54:33 ◼   ► he's like you wanted to get our feet are [TS]

00:54:36 ◼   ► you got me a guitar and then you open it [TS]

00:54:37 ◼   ► up and it's a it's a telecaster with a [TS]

00:54:39 ◼   ► Gibson neck and it was just I was [TS]

00:54:41 ◼   ► through the entire show i could not I [TS]

00:54:44 ◼   ► could not eat I couldn't even get into [TS]

00:54:45 ◼   ► the music because i was just looking at [TS]

00:54:47 ◼   ► this guitar like no no no no no the neck [TS]

00:54:51 ◼   ► is too heavy for the body know the [TS]

00:54:53 ◼   ► square doesn't work with the round no [TS]

00:54:56 ◼   ► sure jack use to refuse to refuse so you [TS]

00:55:03 ◼   ► know but now I look at guitar I'm like [TS]

00:55:05 ◼   ► oh god why didn't I by six of those yep [TS]

00:55:07 ◼   ► i could someone for five grand [TS]

00:55:09 ◼   ► yeah yeah you can ask anything for for [TS]

00:55:12 ◼   ► stuff that's true you're asking 5 grand [TS]

00:55:15 ◼   ► and getting five grand different store [TS]

00:55:17 ◼   ► uh we got a lot of threads here magic [TS]

00:55:21 ◼   ► guitars what were we talking about yeah [TS]

00:55:23 ◼   ► you're what's special gift right so wewe [TS]

00:55:26 ◼   ► did you have you thought more about [TS]

00:55:27 ◼   ► obviously thought more about it [TS]

00:55:29 ◼   ► have you arrived at an answer my special [TS]

00:55:31 ◼   ► gift I mean this is so [TS]

00:55:34 ◼   ► I wanted the 2a I wanted to be good at [TS]

00:55:41 ◼   ► Magic right like so many of us who grew [TS]

00:55:43 ◼   ► up in the seventies it seemed like magic [TS]

00:55:46 ◼   ► is everywhere [TS]

00:55:47 ◼   ► yeah and if you wanted to end up at [TS]

00:55:48 ◼   ► somebody who wore a ruffled shirt and a [TS]

00:55:50 ◼   ► big bow tie and maybe was on late-night [TS]

00:55:53 ◼   ► television with rich little [TS]

00:55:55 ◼   ► uh-huh it magic might be the way into [TS]

00:55:58 ◼   ► that world right and I just wanted you [TS]

00:56:01 ◼   ► know it seemed even now to be Ricky J [TS]

00:56:04 ◼   ► and to be able to just go anywhere in [TS]

00:56:06 ◼   ► the world with the deck of cards right [TS]

00:56:08 ◼   ► and amazing to light people [TS]

00:56:10 ◼   ► yeah I wouldn't that be wonderful but it [TS]

00:56:13 ◼   ► requires that you practice and you have [TS]

00:56:16 ◼   ► now what that's the problem I special [TS]

00:56:17 ◼   ► and that's what does you see I'm if [TS]

00:56:19 ◼   ► you're like me see I I think Ricky J is [TS]

00:56:21 ◼   ► kind of like the he is to magic and I [TS]

00:56:24 ◼   ► feel like him with magic and about [TS]

00:56:26 ◼   ► krautrock or sometimes I enjoy it but [TS]

00:56:28 ◼   ► I'm Way more interested in learning [TS]

00:56:29 ◼   ► about it so like I love learning about [TS]

00:56:31 ◼   ► Ricky Jay I watch every Ricky J [TS]

00:56:33 ◼   ► documenting and I love his performances [TS]

00:56:35 ◼   ► to like the documentaries he just spends [TS]

00:56:37 ◼   ► hours a day [TS]

00:56:39 ◼   ► shuffling cards that's what he does [TS]

00:56:41 ◼   ► that's his thing although he has a [TS]

00:56:42 ◼   ► mirror ever seen these in he just sits [TS]

00:56:45 ◼   ► there and just does gorgeous things with [TS]

00:56:46 ◼   ► cards all day long it's what he does [TS]

00:56:48 ◼   ► yeah he's also really smart well see [TS]

00:56:52 ◼   ► Matt and the that's confusing to me [TS]

00:56:54 ◼   ► right he's really smart and he shuffles [TS]

00:56:56 ◼   ► cards all day right it seems like a [TS]

00:56:58 ◼   ► disconnect and I guess for me I all [TS]

00:57:01 ◼   ► nobody ever explained to me that being a [TS]

00:57:04 ◼   ► that being kind of good at everything as [TS]

00:57:08 ◼   ► opposed to really good at one thing that [TS]

00:57:11 ◼   ► that was actually a goal to have that [TS]

00:57:13 ◼   ► that was something that you could shoot [TS]

00:57:15 ◼   ► for and it turns out that my instinct is [TS]

00:57:18 ◼   ► to be kind of good at everything we've [TS]

00:57:20 ◼   ► talked about this before you can go deep [TS]

00:57:22 ◼   ► on nothing go why don't I totally agree [TS]

00:57:24 ◼   ► but but that's not a thing that there's [TS]

00:57:28 ◼   ► really that much useful there's only a [TS]

00:57:30 ◼   ► few people that are allowed to be public [TS]

00:57:32 ◼   ► figures that are famous for that you [TS]

00:57:34 ◼   ► have your George's Plimpton [TS]

00:57:35 ◼   ► yeah you have your your your gorgeous [TS]

00:57:38 ◼   ► videl I guess [TS]

00:57:39 ◼   ► well and see this is this is the thing [TS]

00:57:41 ◼   ► it's a very rich wasp being to be that's [TS]

00:57:45 ◼   ► true it's a privilege thing [TS]

00:57:47 ◼   ► yeah if you you know if you [TS]

00:57:48 ◼   ► can just sit around and and and learn a [TS]

00:57:51 ◼   ► little bit of everything isn't that nice [TS]

00:57:53 ◼   ► for you but the rest of us have to get a [TS]

00:57:55 ◼   ► job then you're always you're skating up [TS]

00:57:57 ◼   ► against that word nobody likes della [TS]

00:57:58 ◼   ► tante Oh dilettante right c-list right [TS]

00:58:01 ◼   ► somebody who's uh who's pretty maybe [TS]

00:58:04 ◼   ► broad pretty shallow and and that is a [TS]

00:58:07 ◼   ► legitimate thing to be good at alpine [TS]

00:58:10 ◼   ► math I'm in a sense an autodidact [TS]

00:58:12 ◼   ► there's almost and i think you and i [TS]

00:58:14 ◼   ► both are that might be good at words and [TS]

00:58:17 ◼   ► good at word so so I mean one thing if [TS]

00:58:21 ◼   ► if you say okay what are you good at [TS]

00:58:23 ◼   ► it's like well all right arm that on any [TS]

00:58:25 ◼   ► topic I can be [TS]

00:58:27 ◼   ► conversent you cannot really throw at [TS]

00:58:31 ◼   ► you or me a thing that we wouldn't have [TS]

00:58:34 ◼   ► something to say about it even if and [TS]

00:58:36 ◼   ► when it's not like we profess to know [TS]

00:58:39 ◼   ► no but like you've heard something about [TS]

00:58:40 ◼   ► everything I've heard something about [TS]

00:58:42 ◼   ► everything if somebody says oh I am you [TS]

00:58:45 ◼   ► know I work with bats i will say oh [TS]

00:58:47 ◼   ► that's interesting have you ever heard [TS]

00:58:50 ◼   ► of the bats that live under the bridge [TS]

00:58:51 ◼   ► in austin and of course they have and [TS]

00:58:54 ◼   ► now we're talking about it right and [TS]

00:58:56 ◼   ► that is a whatever it is right it but [TS]

00:59:00 ◼   ► it's but it's a I mean you could say [TS]

00:59:03 ◼   ► it's a gift your gift gifted [TS]

00:59:05 ◼   ► conversation list but that seems like [TS]

00:59:07 ◼   ► something that a rich wife would you say [TS]

00:59:10 ◼   ► about like the wife of a congressman I [TS]

00:59:13 ◼   ► know [TS]

00:59:14 ◼   ► yes you're right right and that is [TS]

00:59:16 ◼   ► something that I maybe I would be good [TS]

00:59:18 ◼   ► at idea the wife of an ambassador I [TS]

00:59:21 ◼   ► would be a great wife of an ambassador [TS]

00:59:23 ◼   ► you would be such a great wife you know [TS]

00:59:25 ◼   ► you can be very polite you can you can [TS]

00:59:29 ◼   ► definitely seemed like a really good [TS]

00:59:30 ◼   ► listener and you know which for m1 sure [TS]

00:59:33 ◼   ► and you know which fork to use a lot of [TS]

00:59:35 ◼   ► the time most of the time you work from [TS]

00:59:37 ◼   ► the outside in [TS]

00:59:38 ◼   ► but so I'm let's say let's say my uh my [TS]

00:59:40 ◼   ► network let's call her my wife [TS]

00:59:43 ◼   ► let's say she is the ambassador to [TS]

00:59:44 ◼   ► France mm and I am her wife she little [TS]

00:59:48 ◼   ► bit like a short kind of Jewish yeah she [TS]

00:59:50 ◼   ► might be a little zaftig who but she's a [TS]

00:59:53 ◼   ► great ambassador and she's working all [TS]

00:59:55 ◼   ► the time doing ambassadorial things [TS]

00:59:57 ◼   ► and i am hosting galas [TS]

00:59:57 ◼   ► and i am hosting galas [TS]

01:00:00 ◼   ► sure you know what i'm wearing a very [TS]

01:00:02 ◼   ► becoming close and everyone who comes in [TS]

01:00:05 ◼   ► and make them feel comfortable and I you [TS]

01:00:07 ◼   ► know and I direct them to the the [TS]

01:00:10 ◼   ► conversations that I feel like they [TS]

01:00:12 ◼   ► would be interested in and I laughs [TS]

01:00:14 ◼   ► appreciatively at their stories and I [TS]

01:00:16 ◼   ► say oh you know a no this is the Duke of [TS]

01:00:20 ◼   ► Ellington and here's that you know [TS]

01:00:24 ◼   ► there's the count basie and aren't they [TS]

01:00:26 ◼   ► aren't they [TS]

01:00:28 ◼   ► spectacular let's talk about pop music [TS]

01:00:32 ◼   ► like I'd be I'd be spectacular that but [TS]

01:00:35 ◼   ► again it's a it's a job that doesn't [TS]

01:00:38 ◼   ► that's not really a job right we don't [TS]

01:00:39 ◼   ► appreciate ambassadors wives like we [TS]

01:00:42 ◼   ► should and and that's not a that there's [TS]

01:00:48 ◼   ► no job description for that except maybe [TS]

01:00:50 ◼   ► podcaster but that was again as you say [TS]

01:00:54 ◼   ► doesn't even seem like a job [TS]

01:00:57 ◼   ► mhm not a real job now I I aspire I used [TS]

01:01:04 ◼   ► to I used to think that I was really [TS]

01:01:06 ◼   ► smart and in certain contexts like that [TS]

01:01:09 ◼   ► could be the trees are not very smart [TS]

01:01:10 ◼   ► I'm I'm fast I'm not smart i'm fast [TS]

01:01:13 ◼   ► sometimes on a good day i'm clever the [TS]

01:01:16 ◼   ► thing in the over the years that i also [TS]

01:01:18 ◼   ► am proud of but something that I a I'll [TS]

01:01:21 ◼   ► tell you what an aspiration of which i [TS]

01:01:23 ◼   ► am proud is that I do aspire to be [TS]

01:01:27 ◼   ► increasingly curious and I think that's [TS]

01:01:30 ◼   ► a good aspiration now it is merely an [TS]

01:01:32 ◼   ► inspiration i'm not as secure as I could [TS]

01:01:34 ◼   ► be [TS]

01:01:35 ◼   ► I said I remember a friend gave me a [TS]

01:01:37 ◼   ► book about the juggalo street just for [TS]

01:01:39 ◼   ► once or the Juggalos you're just talking [TS]

01:01:41 ◼   ► about the juggalos and he gave me a book [TS]

01:01:42 ◼   ► about understanding jugglers don't you [TS]

01:01:44 ◼   ► understand them better have been cracked [TS]

01:01:46 ◼   ► it [TS]

01:01:46 ◼   ► I'm gonna it's their trip on my keys you [TS]

01:01:48 ◼   ► know I feel like I understand them a lot [TS]

01:01:50 ◼   ► better from having met George the dragon [TS]

01:01:53 ◼   ► or whoever whoever that was impressive [TS]

01:01:56 ◼   ► John who is that uh no judge the dragon [TS]

01:01:58 ◼   ► steamboat so I didn't I tell you about [TS]

01:02:00 ◼   ► this I I was hosting a series of [TS]

01:02:04 ◼   ► conversations up here at bumbershoot who [TS]

01:02:07 ◼   ► a couple years ago and I invited the [TS]

01:02:10 ◼   ► dragon and I think he spells it [TS]

01:02:13 ◼   ► r AG aan maybe who had who had directed [TS]

01:02:20 ◼   ► his first film was a film about juggalos [TS]

01:02:23 ◼   ► he himself is a juggalo and he wanted to [TS]

01:02:25 ◼   ► dispel some of the misconceptions by [TS]

01:02:29 ◼   ► doing a film about juggalos so he his [TS]

01:02:31 ◼   ► name is the dragon right i think i don't [TS]

01:02:35 ◼   ► remember exactly and then I on the other [TS]

01:02:37 ◼   ► side of the panel i invited a a brownie [TS]

01:02:43 ◼   ► who were the brownies were really in the [TS]

01:02:46 ◼   ► news at the time everybody was talking [TS]

01:02:47 ◼   ► about bronies yeah and this man [TS]

01:02:50 ◼   ► presented himself as the world's [TS]

01:02:52 ◼   ► manliest brownie he was a [TS]

01:02:54 ◼   ► harley-davidson mechanic somewhere in [TS]

01:02:57 ◼   ► the Midwest and also an avid brownie and [TS]

01:03:02 ◼   ► so we bumbershoot flew them both out to [TS]