Roderick on the Line

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00:00:29 ◼   ► hello hi John hi Merlin has gone good [TS]

00:00:35 ◼   ► after settings [TS]

00:00:37 ◼   ► um my settings are good now now that [TS]

00:00:40 ◼   ► I've going in and fix them all there was [TS]

00:00:44 ◼   ► no reason that they should have changed [TS]

00:00:45 ◼   ► huh [TS]

00:00:46 ◼   ► but of course that's no explanation [TS]

00:00:50 ◼   ► I mean that's it's not it's not that [TS]

00:00:51 ◼   ► they shouldn't have changed its that the [TS]

00:00:53 ◼   ► computer decided and I think it has more [TS]

00:00:56 ◼   ► information than i do probably it's [TS]

00:00:59 ◼   ► drawing from a lot of sources in [TS]

00:01:00 ◼   ► real-time em it's showing you things you [TS]

00:01:03 ◼   ► didn't know you needed [TS]

00:01:04 ◼   ► yeah so it determined that everything [TS]

00:01:06 ◼   ► needed to be reset and I need to login [TS]

00:01:08 ◼   ► again using my secret password login and [TS]

00:01:13 ◼   ► wanted me to login to the whole computer [TS]

00:01:15 ◼   ► just like just everything it just wants [TS]

00:01:17 ◼   ► me to log into everything all the time [TS]

00:01:19 ◼   ► you might be might have been hacked [TS]

00:01:20 ◼   ► how do you know what twenty-five percent [TS]

00:01:22 ◼   ► of what i do is login m and this morning [TS]

00:01:25 ◼   ► I'm checking my emails and I realized [TS]

00:01:29 ◼   ► that in a very short amount of time how [TS]

00:01:30 ◼   ► long have we had emails how long have [TS]

00:01:31 ◼   ► you been getting emails i'm getting [TS]

00:01:34 ◼   ► emails for 23 years 13 years okay I've [TS]

00:01:38 ◼   ► been getting emails for at least six [TS]

00:01:40 ◼   ► that I can call let's call it 16 even [TS]

00:01:43 ◼   ► answering them for to get well you know [TS]

00:01:46 ◼   ► you want to put yourself out there too [TS]

00:01:47 ◼   ► much i'll explain why you no answer and [TS]

00:01:49 ◼   ► the near information in the clothes but [TS]

00:01:52 ◼   ► a but uh yeah I i was checking my email [TS]

00:01:56 ◼   ► this morning and I realize now I have [TS]

00:01:58 ◼   ► the exact same relationship to email [TS]

00:02:00 ◼   ► that i have two real mail right I'm [TS]

00:02:03 ◼   ► sitting there in my it but I'm sitting [TS]

00:02:05 ◼   ► in my virtual front yard and I'm [TS]

00:02:08 ◼   ► virtually sorting through a bunch of [TS]

00:02:12 ◼   ► flyers for grocery stores [TS]

00:02:15 ◼   ► uh-huh and stuff from the like six [TS]

00:02:19 ◼   ► colleges that mistakenly think I want to [TS]

00:02:21 ◼   ► go get a degree and in IT and some you [TS]

00:02:27 ◼   ► know it's just like I'm i throw ninety [TS]

00:02:30 ◼   ► percent of the email i get immediately [TS]

00:02:33 ◼   ► in the garbage and that is after [TS]

00:02:35 ◼   ► spending probably ten thousand man hours [TS]

00:02:38 ◼   ► meticulously adjusting my spam filters [TS]

00:02:42 ◼   ► and sending oh my god Merlin I'm sure [TS]

00:02:45 ◼   ► you gonna roll your eyes at me but I [TS]

00:02:47 ◼   ► send unsubscribes everytime everytime [TS]

00:02:51 ◼   ► the University of San Francisco decides [TS]

00:02:53 ◼   ► that I'm an alum again are you jasmine [TS]

00:02:56 ◼   ► rice and then your underwear the Gonzaga [TS]

00:02:58 ◼   ► list [TS]

00:02:58 ◼   ► no it's not that it's not your chance in [TS]

00:03:00 ◼   ► san francisco at the University of [TS]

00:03:02 ◼   ► California San Francisco it's one of the [TS]

00:03:04 ◼   ► universities in San Francisco sure [TS]

00:03:06 ◼   ► decided eight years ago that i had gone [TS]

00:03:10 ◼   ► there and they cannot be put off the [TS]

00:03:13 ◼   ► scent [TS]

00:03:14 ◼   ► oh and I and so I spend all this time on [TS]

00:03:16 ◼   ► subscribe and subscribe and subscribe [TS]

00:03:18 ◼   ► please unsubscribe me to the thing that [TS]

00:03:20 ◼   ► I didn't subscribe 2 i've done all that [TS]

00:03:22 ◼   ► and still a t28 ninety percent of the [TS]

00:03:25 ◼   ► emails I get I just throw him be virtual [TS]

00:03:28 ◼   ► recycling bin without even going into [TS]

00:03:31 ◼   ► the pit through the gate into my house I [TS]

00:03:32 ◼   ► just stand by the mailbox [TS]

00:03:34 ◼   ► that's like wow the new technology has [TS]

00:03:36 ◼   ► really it's only taken at 23 years to [TS]

00:03:39 ◼   ► become completely obsolete technology [TS]

00:03:43 ◼   ► yeah email in a minute how many emails [TS]

00:03:47 ◼   ► to you answer every day you don't want [TS]

00:03:53 ◼   ► to know [TS]

00:03:54 ◼   ► 313 you know wanted out 0 300 between [TS]

00:04:00 ◼   ► three and three hundred i just i just [TS]

00:04:01 ◼   ► want to clarify I i look at my email [TS]

00:04:04 ◼   ► yeah you know oh that's right now this [TS]

00:04:06 ◼   ► is a different thing we're gonna know [TS]

00:04:08 ◼   ► you know okay and I'm not trying to be a [TS]

00:04:10 ◼   ► Productivity guy I'm just telling you [TS]

00:04:11 ◼   ► what a terrible person I am I a lot of [TS]

00:04:15 ◼   ► days I answer less than one email a day [TS]

00:04:17 ◼   ► yes yes yeah that and your productivity [TS]

00:04:21 ◼   ► through the roof [TS]

00:04:22 ◼   ► I so many thoughts about this i really [TS]

00:04:25 ◼   ► need my productivity go through the roof [TS]

00:04:28 ◼   ► i was getting ready for for the day [TS]

00:04:30 ◼   ► getting ready for the things they needed [TS]

00:04:33 ◼   ► to do and thinking about the things i [TS]

00:04:34 ◼   ► need to do today [TS]

00:04:35 ◼   ► now what do you need on a day when you [TS]

00:04:37 ◼   ► and I are recording yeah okay isn't it [TS]

00:04:41 ◼   ► isn't the the recording of this podcast [TS]

00:04:43 ◼   ► sort of such a bright Sun you can't even [TS]

00:04:47 ◼   ► see the other stars only four out of [TS]

00:04:49 ◼   ► five of them yeah but there's that one [TS]

00:04:51 ◼   ► there's Venus or what [TS]

00:04:52 ◼   ► whether you can see what you can put out [TS]

00:04:54 ◼   ► there's the ones that you know [TS]

00:04:55 ◼   ► no we don't actually put out almost all [TS]

00:04:57 ◼   ► of them now haven't we haven't we [TS]

00:04:58 ◼   ► haven't not point out pulling out a long [TS]

00:05:00 ◼   ► time [TS]

00:05:01 ◼   ► remember remember the remember when it [TS]

00:05:03 ◼   ► seemed like every other one we were [TS]

00:05:04 ◼   ► putting out [TS]

00:05:05 ◼   ► yeah when you get a minute 80 and you [TS]

00:05:07 ◼   ► start going on now now now consigned [TS]

00:05:10 ◼   ► some special happens a minute Katy [TS]

00:05:12 ◼   ► that's where somewhere in your mind you [TS]

00:05:15 ◼   ► I assume have some unconscious gate [TS]

00:05:19 ◼   ► gateway where you're like I can start [TS]

00:05:21 ◼   ► whining this down or I can triple down [TS]

00:05:23 ◼   ► and get it [TS]

00:05:26 ◼   ► well ok if this is a moment is you are [TS]

00:05:31 ◼   ► saying you're in every tone in your [TS]

00:05:32 ◼   ► voice you just saying no no no no what [TS]

00:05:36 ◼   ► just winded up were admitted 80 this is [TS]

00:05:38 ◼   ► already good episode [TS]

00:05:39 ◼   ► yeah it's not just that's good point [TS]

00:05:41 ◼   ► John you Tommy kind of El any kind of [TS]

00:05:44 ◼   ► Bel carry some funny somebody I can not [TS]

00:05:47 ◼   ► that I ever tell you about Hitler's sex [TS]

00:05:49 ◼   ► dungeons and you're like who don't know [TS]

00:05:52 ◼   ► I i would love to hear about that here's [TS]

00:05:56 ◼   ► how my day goes i've been i've been [TS]

00:05:59 ◼   ► working on sleep again and so I've been [TS]

00:06:00 ◼   ► kind of a bad dad rice sleep in later [TS]

00:06:02 ◼   ► than ash in the mornings and my wife [TS]

00:06:04 ◼   ► ends up doing a lot of heavy lifting in [TS]

00:06:06 ◼   ► the morning and i'm trying to work on [TS]

00:06:07 ◼   ► that so I'm trying to adjust going to [TS]

00:06:09 ◼   ► bed earlier which is difficult because [TS]

00:06:11 ◼   ► as I've said numerous places including [TS]

00:06:14 ◼   ► here I falling back into a pattern of [TS]

00:06:16 ◼   ► really enjoying the time after my kid [TS]

00:06:19 ◼   ► goes to bed working like watch movies [TS]

00:06:21 ◼   ► and I'm very selfishly watching movies [TS]

00:06:24 ◼   ► and TV shows and if I don't keep an eye [TS]

00:06:26 ◼   ► on that I will do that very easily until [TS]

00:06:29 ◼   ► 1am who I'm trying to get to where like [TS]

00:06:33 ◼   ► I want to go to bed before midnight [TS]

00:06:35 ◼   ► ideally 1030 long story short got up [TS]

00:06:38 ◼   ► today I select my way through the [TS]

00:06:40 ◼   ► morning with the family I didn't really [TS]

00:06:41 ◼   ► do anything of consequence so I gotta [TS]

00:06:43 ◼   ► get ready for the day [TS]

00:06:44 ◼   ► what do I have to do is record to [TS]

00:06:46 ◼   ► podcast today well it's your other [TS]

00:06:48 ◼   ► podcast you don't care i got to do [TS]

00:06:50 ◼   ► podcast that record today and I have to [TS]

00:06:53 ◼   ► get the sponsors ready for our show [TS]

00:06:55 ◼   ► I have to do the research for that I [TS]

00:06:57 ◼   ► have to do the sponsor reads for another [TS]

00:06:58 ◼   ► program the third program that i do five [TS]

00:07:00 ◼   ► and I thought nothing nothing difficult [TS]

00:07:03 ◼   ► but it's all stuff that has to be done [TS]

00:07:05 ◼   ► it's like that [TS]

00:07:06 ◼   ► mission program lost we think about if [TS]

00:07:08 ◼   ► you watch that programme but but there's [TS]

00:07:11 ◼   ► a point out when the shows still made [TS]

00:07:13 ◼   ► him a modicum of sense where there's a [TS]

00:07:15 ◼   ► guy who sits in an underground cavern in [TS]

00:07:19 ◼   ► like an underground like you know layer [TS]

00:07:20 ◼   ► and every few minutes he has to type a [TS]

00:07:23 ◼   ► sequence of numbers into a computer who [TS]

00:07:26 ◼   ► and and for a while we know is boy he's [TS]

00:07:29 ◼   ► really got to get those numbers punched [TS]

00:07:31 ◼   ► and there's gonna be problems and then [TS]

00:07:33 ◼   ► and then my my understanding is it all [TS]

00:07:35 ◼   ► turned out to just be that every episode [TS]

00:07:37 ◼   ► was totally just had no connective [TS]

00:07:39 ◼   ► tissue really really complicated [TS]

00:07:41 ◼   ► no not now let me ask you r which is [TS]

00:07:44 ◼   ► what this is that this is this is an [TS]

00:07:48 ◼   ► argument that Shawn Nelson I used to [TS]

00:07:49 ◼   ► have a lot we would go to the meeting [TS]

00:07:51 ◼   ► you and Shawn would argue sometimes we [TS]

00:07:52 ◼   ► used to have arguments will let us agree [TS]

00:07:54 ◼   ► mental gentleman's disagreements but we [TS]

00:07:56 ◼   ► never took it all the way to having a [TS]

00:07:58 ◼   ► podcast which is what you should do when [TS]

00:07:59 ◼   ► you have disagreements with somebody but [TS]

00:08:02 ◼   ► we would go to see the movies and you [TS]

00:08:03 ◼   ► know Sean was a cinephile and and [TS]

00:08:06 ◼   ► studied movies or whatever and I we [TS]

00:08:07 ◼   ► would go see a film and I would come out [TS]

00:08:09 ◼   ► of the film and said that movie had no [TS]

00:08:11 ◼   ► redeeming qualities it was garbage movie [TS]

00:08:14 ◼   ► would be sigh he would sigh and he would [TS]

00:08:17 ◼   ► say and then we'd start arguing and he [TS]

00:08:19 ◼   ► would say no no it was a great movie and [TS]

00:08:21 ◼   ► I would say it not only can you not [TS]

00:08:23 ◼   ► defend the statement it's a great movie [TS]

00:08:26 ◼   ► you can't even defend my assertion that [TS]

00:08:29 ◼   ► movie should be burned in the public [TS]

00:08:30 ◼   ► square [TS]

00:08:31 ◼   ► yeah and he would say this is what he [TS]

00:08:33 ◼   ► would say what about that one tracking [TS]

00:08:35 ◼   ► shot all that's that we're one long view [TS]

00:08:40 ◼   ► they took in the whole army marching [TS]

00:08:43 ◼   ► through the valley and then it spanned [TS]

00:08:45 ◼   ► over here and then it's settled on an [TS]

00:08:48 ◼   ► eagle in its Airy and then there were [TS]

00:08:51 ◼   ► some clouds in a rainbow would be like [TS]

00:08:53 ◼   ► seriously you're going to defend this [TS]

00:08:54 ◼   ► movie based on some the technicality of [TS]

00:08:57 ◼   ► one long tracking shot huh [TS]

00:08:59 ◼   ► but he was seeing the trees for the [TS]

00:09:02 ◼   ► forest or whatever you know he didn't [TS]

00:09:04 ◼   ► matter to him that the plot was garbage [TS]

00:09:06 ◼   ► the dialogue was garbage them the acting [TS]

00:09:09 ◼   ► was garbage they had this tracking shot [TS]

00:09:12 ◼   ► he was seeing all these other elements [TS]

00:09:14 ◼   ► that he was appreciated almost like he's [TS]

00:09:16 ◼   ► watching a different movie in some ways [TS]

00:09:17 ◼   ► he's very much watching a different [TS]

00:09:19 ◼   ► movie because it because I mean it's not [TS]

00:09:22 ◼   ► that he doesn't also know that dialogue [TS]

00:09:25 ◼   ► matters and script matters or whatever [TS]

00:09:26 ◼   ► but he decides at a certain point in the [TS]

00:09:28 ◼   ► film but that's not what he's looking [TS]

00:09:30 ◼   ► for anymore or that this movie stands [TS]

00:09:34 ◼   ► this is valid enough movie on some [TS]

00:09:37 ◼   ► technical basis that that it that it's [TS]

00:09:42 ◼   ► in the category of like good movies and [TS]

00:09:45 ◼   ► I've had a lot of people say about lost [TS]

00:09:48 ◼   ► to me even now knowing that it's [TS]

00:09:51 ◼   ► gibberish [TS]

00:09:53 ◼   ► they still recommend that i watch it [TS]

00:09:55 ◼   ► because it's such a fun watch yeah and [TS]

00:09:59 ◼   ► I'm and I pull my hair out [TS]

00:10:02 ◼   ► look I I almost shouted at them it's [TS]

00:10:04 ◼   ► it's a very different way of thinking [TS]

00:10:06 ◼   ► about at least media and possibly the [TS]

00:10:09 ◼   ► world [TS]

00:10:09 ◼   ► yeah I feel like it is a worldview [TS]

00:10:11 ◼   ► because I you know my feeling is like [TS]

00:10:13 ◼   ► life is short enough huh [TS]

00:10:16 ◼   ► if you are only queuing up to watch.just [TS]

00:10:19 ◼   ► the things that everyone agrees are [TS]

00:10:21 ◼   ► brilliant [TS]

00:10:22 ◼   ► why would you subject yourself to hours [TS]

00:10:25 ◼   ► upon hours of watching a thing that has [TS]

00:10:27 ◼   ► no that makes no sense that has no point [TS]

00:10:30 ◼   ► other than that some people had a lot of [TS]

00:10:34 ◼   ► money and didn't think a thing through [TS]

00:10:37 ◼   ► and that you know and so that it feels [TS]

00:10:39 ◼   ► like a it feels like a worldview [TS]

00:10:41 ◼   ► difference where maybe I don't [TS]

00:10:44 ◼   ► understand but but the idea i mean if [TS]

00:10:48 ◼   ► someone put someone put me in a room [TS]

00:10:50 ◼   ► that just had blanket was one of those [TS]

00:10:51 ◼   ► one of those silent rooms that makes you [TS]

00:10:54 ◼   ► insane [TS]

00:10:55 ◼   ► uh-huh you're familiar with this right [TS]

00:10:56 ◼   ► yeah absolutely it's one of the things [TS]

00:10:58 ◼   ► that sounds like it would be relaxing [TS]

00:10:59 ◼   ► but it's actually a cause of insanity [TS]

00:11:01 ◼   ► right there by your brain it's like [TS]

00:11:03 ◼   ► people like like a heart freaking out in [TS]

00:11:06 ◼   ► the relaxation body relaxation but it's [TS]

00:11:08 ◼   ► not a bottle it was in a box it was not [TS]

00:11:10 ◼   ► put up right yeah I've been in this it's [TS]

00:11:13 ◼   ► pretty weird seems to me like one of [TS]

00:11:15 ◼   ► those isolation Tubbs is that takes like [TS]

00:11:17 ◼   ► six out of seven boxes for me it's [TS]

00:11:20 ◼   ► little it's dark it's wet it's a lot of [TS]

00:11:23 ◼   ► things you don't like I don't like [TS]

00:11:25 ◼   ► little you don't mind being wet if it's [TS]

00:11:27 ◼   ► an open tub in fact that something to [TS]

00:11:28 ◼   ► look forward to and possibly bring a [TS]

00:11:29 ◼   ► sandwich in a desk and you know I don't [TS]

00:11:31 ◼   ► mind it being dark [TS]

00:11:32 ◼   ► but anyway uh I don't want to be in dark [TS]

00:11:35 ◼   ► even if you can't really exactly like [TS]

00:11:37 ◼   ► control the dark [TS]

00:11:38 ◼   ► no I want to the Lockean problem i think [TS]

00:11:41 ◼   ► when you when you know you can change [TS]

00:11:42 ◼   ► the dark I think it makes the dark worse [TS]

00:11:44 ◼   ► yeah i know i want to be able to i want [TS]

00:11:46 ◼   ► to be able to banish the dark [TS]

00:11:47 ◼   ► yeah and let in the light went on my [TS]

00:11:49 ◼   ► terms but but yeah all by way of saying [TS]

00:11:54 ◼   ► that that if it feels to me like if I [TS]

00:11:57 ◼   ► was in an isolation cube and I was going [TS]

00:12:00 ◼   ► crazy from lack of stimulus and someone [TS]

00:12:04 ◼   ► said here's some relief [TS]

00:12:06 ◼   ► you should like a buffalo to be sure to [TS]

00:12:07 ◼   ► watch buffy the vampire slayer now I you [TS]

00:12:09 ◼   ► know people in my circle time on my [TS]

00:12:14 ◼   ► inner circle [TS]

00:12:15 ◼   ► okay uh are proponents loud proponents [TS]

00:12:20 ◼   ► of buffy the vampire slayer' and it is [TS]

00:12:22 ◼   ► this is a world view all of the [TS]

00:12:24 ◼   ► spin-offs that o.o the spin-offs the one [TS]

00:12:27 ◼   ► of the vampire guy and the one of the [TS]

00:12:29 ◼   ► other vampire guy i mean i don't know [TS]

00:12:30 ◼   ► anything about it but i guess they all [TS]

00:12:32 ◼   ► have been empires in them it's right in [TS]

00:12:34 ◼   ► the title [TS]

00:12:34 ◼   ► yeah so you're saying that buffy the [TS]

00:12:36 ◼   ► vampire slayer is also a worldview not [TS]

00:12:40 ◼   ► sure this has to do with my morning but [TS]

00:12:42 ◼   ► I carry around a certain amount of [TS]

00:12:45 ◼   ► background baseline guilt that a lot of [TS]

00:12:49 ◼   ► my friends you know it is so there's [TS]

00:12:52 ◼   ► also the thing with age where like if [TS]

00:12:54 ◼   ► you missed your window for something [TS]

00:12:55 ◼   ► you're gonna have to go back and like [TS]

00:12:56 ◼   ► mop up like it's hard to tell an 80 year [TS]

00:12:58 ◼   ► old man you listen yellow like even [TS]

00:13:00 ◼   ► though LOL is it is an unimpeachable [TS]

00:13:02 ◼   ► great band with a dozen terrific classic [TS]

00:13:05 ◼   ► rock songs [TS]

00:13:06 ◼   ► yes that's he missed his yellow window [TS]

00:13:08 ◼   ► how did you feel about uh about Dukes of [TS]

00:13:11 ◼   ► Hazzard I was a massive fan I dressed I [TS]

00:13:14 ◼   ► just like Bo due to the extent of my [TS]

00:13:16 ◼   ► budget would allow really yeah i adopted [TS]

00:13:19 ◼   ► a certain yeah i did I dress like boat I [TS]

00:13:22 ◼   ► feel like I dressed like it was really [TS]

00:13:24 ◼   ► super gay [TS]

00:13:25 ◼   ► I looked I looked really stupid I was [TS]

00:13:26 ◼   ► always a fat kid wearing a turtleneck [TS]

00:13:28 ◼   ► with a plan sure it look I look like I [TS]

00:13:31 ◼   ► was producing something off off-broadway [TS]

00:13:33 ◼   ► the the statement I looked like Bo Duke [TS]

00:13:37 ◼   ► to the extent that my budget would allow [TS]

00:13:39 ◼   ► yes that that line actually would fit [TS]

00:13:42 ◼   ► into the Waylon Jennings [TS]

00:13:44 ◼   ► has all right you're right it was a [TS]

00:13:49 ◼   ► person because we're as good as it did [TS]

00:13:52 ◼   ► allowed would allow yeah you can turn on [TS]

00:13:56 ◼   ► Nick the donor milk Merrill Draper Phil [TS]

00:13:59 ◼   ► saying on [TS]

00:14:00 ◼   ► did I ever tell you that I was in a bar [TS]

00:14:02 ◼   ► in Belgium one time a country bar and [TS]

00:14:04 ◼   ► like the band was playing and they [TS]

00:14:06 ◼   ► played the dukes of hazzard the ballad [TS]

00:14:08 ◼   ► of the Dukes of Hazzard yeah and I went [TS]

00:14:10 ◼   ► up after the show nose like that was [TS]

00:14:11 ◼   ► great you guys did a great job of the [TS]

00:14:13 ◼   ► Dukes of Hazzard theme and numb spoke [TS]

00:14:16 ◼   ► English they just they were just saying [TS]

00:14:17 ◼   ► it phonetically like Abba yeah like Abba [TS]

00:14:20 ◼   ► so your morning [TS]

00:14:23 ◼   ► oh no it's okay i'll get back to it I [TS]

00:14:25 ◼   ► want you back to Desmond um so yeah that [TS]

00:14:28 ◼   ► really matter [TS]

00:14:29 ◼   ► ok but here's here's part of problem i [TS]

00:14:31 ◼   ► think what you're saying let's try to [TS]

00:14:31 ◼   ► pop the stack here we're talking about [TS]

00:14:33 ◼   ► something that says it's very difficult [TS]

00:14:34 ◼   ► and it's something i have actually [TS]

00:14:36 ◼   ► discussed at length in other places [TS]

00:14:38 ◼   ► which most people haven't heard because [TS]

00:14:39 ◼   ► nobody can listen to all the media [TS]

00:14:40 ◼   ► there's too much media so part of the [TS]

00:14:42 ◼   ► media problem is that you end up having [TS]

00:14:45 ◼   ► to find rabbis and sherpa don't know the [TS]

00:14:48 ◼   ► plural of Sherpas repay you gotta find [TS]

00:14:51 ◼   ► Sharpay who are able to guide you with [TS]

00:14:53 ◼   ► taste and interest and to give you see I [TS]

00:14:56 ◼   ► i personally I increasingly find it not [TS]

00:14:58 ◼   ► that helpful when someone says something [TS]

00:15:01 ◼   ► like and I'm just picking this randomly [TS]

00:15:03 ◼   ► oh my god you should totally watch how [TS]

00:15:06 ◼   ► to get away with murder and then i say [TS]

00:15:08 ◼   ► what i say what is that the seventy [TS]

00:15:10 ◼   ► percent of the conversations I have in [TS]

00:15:11 ◼   ► the world or any other shonda rhimes [TS]

00:15:14 ◼   ► properties none of which i have ever [TS]

00:15:15 ◼   ► seen because i don't watch that kind of [TS]

00:15:18 ◼   ► television but no no don't i'm not [TS]

00:15:19 ◼   ► racist i just mean I don't watch network [TS]

00:15:21 ◼   ► television as a thing I don't have [TS]

00:15:23 ◼   ► appointment viewing I don't have cable [TS]

00:15:24 ◼   ► so like any way that that's again that's [TS]

00:15:27 ◼   ► part of my yellow window like I missed [TS]

00:15:29 ◼   ► that window and watch making a murderer [TS]

00:15:32 ◼   ► making a murderer [TS]

00:15:34 ◼   ► oh yeah I i watched all with the last [TS]

00:15:37 ◼   ► episode we got all the way to the last [TS]

00:15:39 ◼   ► episode like I couldn't it was I [TS]

00:15:40 ◼   ► couldn't do it [TS]

00:15:41 ◼   ► yeah it made me genuinely very very sad [TS]

00:15:45 ◼   ► to watch that show em and i know i [TS]

00:15:47 ◼   ► understand like a lot of it was probably [TS]

00:15:48 ◼   ► a little bit doctored but it was it's [TS]

00:15:51 ◼   ► one of those things where like against [TS]

00:15:52 ◼   ► kind of people will point out you know [TS]

00:15:54 ◼   ► black people known this for years that [TS]

00:15:56 ◼   ► maybe the justice system doesn't work [TS]

00:15:57 ◼   ► so much like a Swiss clock so much like [TS]

00:15:59 ◼   ► Swiss cheese write that down [TS]

00:16:01 ◼   ► it's pretty good huh are this episode of [TS]

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00:18:11 ◼   ► supporting rock on the line and all the [TS]

00:18:13 ◼   ► great shows i'm still trying i'm still [TS]

00:18:16 ◼   ► turning on popping the stack [TS]

00:18:19 ◼   ► yeah look it back to that first talk [TS]

00:18:21 ◼   ► about my morning so and the problem is i [TS]

00:18:23 ◼   ► missed my window because it's like a lot [TS]

00:18:25 ◼   ► of things were like you know like you [TS]

00:18:27 ◼   ► and you watch us [TS]

00:18:28 ◼   ► startrack new generation yeah so like [TS]

00:18:31 ◼   ► for me that came on almost precisely as [TS]

00:18:35 ◼   ► I was starting college where even if I [TS]

00:18:36 ◼   ► did have a TV that I could watch it [TS]

00:18:39 ◼   ► would be very extremely low on my list [TS]

00:18:41 ◼   ► to set aside time in the evening to [TS]

00:18:43 ◼   ► watch a star track who [TS]

00:18:45 ◼   ► ok there's nothing against the star trac [TS]

00:18:46 ◼   ► properties so you're telling me that you [TS]

00:18:48 ◼   ► skipped star trek next next gen I can't [TS]

00:18:52 ◼   ► about this but I'm here to tell you that [TS]

00:18:53 ◼   ► i can honestly tell you I can tell you [TS]

00:18:56 ◼   ► from memory i have seen three full [TS]

00:19:00 ◼   ► episodes of the original series possibly [TS]

00:19:03 ◼   ► maybe ten i have seen I think maybe two [TS]

00:19:07 ◼   ► or three of the new generation which is [TS]

00:19:09 ◼   ► what it's called arm and you don't you [TS]

00:19:12 ◼   ► don't know about the sexism of the [TS]

00:19:14 ◼   ► Ferengi's oh no I know there's four [TS]

00:19:16 ◼   ► lights 404 lights and you don't you [TS]

00:19:19 ◼   ► don't cop to this but you were you [TS]

00:19:21 ◼   ► enjoyed star trac you've mentioned in [TS]

00:19:23 ◼   ► your songs i have not mentioned in my [TS]

00:19:25 ◼   ► songs you wanted a reference you've rest [TS]

00:19:28 ◼   ► reference to start racks in a song what [TS]

00:19:30 ◼   ► song did I reference a star track and [TS]

00:19:33 ◼   ► astatine you do use it really those does [TS]

00:19:36 ◼   ► this is this terrible awesome like puns [TS]

00:19:38 ◼   ► and your song great it starts with the [TS]

00:19:40 ◼   ► earthquake birds snakes instead trains [TS]

00:19:44 ◼   ► startrack Ferengi sexism problem what [TS]

00:19:47 ◼   ► puns do i have in songs i really like [TS]

00:19:49 ◼   ► you do you bullshit like an Angels [TS]

00:19:52 ◼   ► Russians oh alright you guys like that [TS]

00:19:54 ◼   ► that's one example but that's not my [TS]

00:19:57 ◼   ► point you know enjoy that your songs you [TS]

00:19:58 ◼   ► piece of shit i was i was a fan of you [TS]

00:20:00 ◼   ► before anybody knew who you were [TS]

00:20:02 ◼   ► Shawn Nelson yelled at me about that [TS]

00:20:04 ◼   ► line i love that like I said that's [TS]

00:20:06 ◼   ► corny that we got whole song I I someday [TS]

00:20:09 ◼   ► i will get the guts to ask you what the [TS]

00:20:11 ◼   ► fuck that song is about but I for now I [TS]

00:20:14 ◼   ► in enjoy you know thinking about the [TS]

00:20:17 ◼   ► whatever the tall chickens or whatever [TS]

00:20:18 ◼   ► yeah right okay so that was the plan but [TS]

00:20:20 ◼   ► you know something i was a fan of your [TS]

00:20:21 ◼   ► music before anyone care [TS]

00:20:23 ◼   ► about you know you don't have to tell me [TS]

00:20:24 ◼   ► i remember getting started my house in [TS]

00:20:26 ◼   ► your underwear so many times I remember [TS]

00:20:28 ◼   ► sitting in the other room and listening [TS]

00:20:29 ◼   ► to you listen to my second record which [TS]

00:20:31 ◼   ► actually have listened to the first [TS]

00:20:32 ◼   ► minute of it [TS]

00:20:33 ◼   ► I should describe better but it's like [TS]

00:20:35 ◼   ► to have never listened to your brand-new [TS]

00:20:37 ◼   ► record he took it as a dining room took [TS]

00:20:39 ◼   ► me into the dining room with her [TS]

00:20:41 ◼   ► probably Walkman everything like hey [TS]

00:20:43 ◼   ► this is something extremely special [TS]

00:20:44 ◼   ► ok I new record it's not out yet this is [TS]

00:20:47 ◼   ► our demos of our next record and it's [TS]

00:20:50 ◼   ► gonna it's a really big deal [TS]

00:20:51 ◼   ► these are like rough they were rough [TS]

00:20:52 ◼   ► demos but they were rough cuts out early [TS]

00:20:55 ◼   ► songs some of which may not so much did [TS]

00:20:56 ◼   ► some which became the theme song for our [TS]

00:20:58 ◼   ► program which i happen to love josh is [TS]

00:21:00 ◼   ► wrong it's fantastic song and I and I [TS]

00:21:03 ◼   ► was like oh my god this is great and I [TS]

00:21:05 ◼   ► SAT there with your Walkman and you [TS]

00:21:08 ◼   ► won't describe what i did is what he did [TS]

00:21:10 ◼   ► usually do thanks John um you listen to [TS]

00:21:14 ◼   ► the first 20 seconds of a song [TS]

00:21:16 ◼   ► yeah and then you fast forward to the [TS]

00:21:18 ◼   ► next one here the first 20 seconds the [TS]

00:21:20 ◼   ► next one year the first 20 seconds on [TS]

00:21:21 ◼   ► the next one and then you let you go [TS]

00:21:23 ◼   ► they go to the first song and then your [TS]

00:21:25 ◼   ► third song they go back to the first [TS]

00:21:27 ◼   ► first song you listened to 20 seconds of [TS]

00:21:29 ◼   ► a maritime and I was so incredulous and [TS]

00:21:33 ◼   ► horrified i was like growing these songs [TS]

00:21:35 ◼   ► are meant to be listened to all the way [TS]

00:21:37 ◼   ► through there it's not you don't skip [TS]

00:21:38 ◼   ► around and you're like no no I and [TS]

00:21:41 ◼   ► Madeline grabbed me by the arm and took [TS]

00:21:44 ◼   ► me into the kitchen and she said listen [TS]

00:21:45 ◼   ► this is how he does it but just don't [TS]

00:21:47 ◼   ► you don't [TS]

00:21:49 ◼   ► I'm sorry I'm sorry I mean like so many [TS]

00:21:52 ◼   ► many apologies she's made on your behalf [TS]

00:21:54 ◼   ► yeah and and i had to leave you alone i [TS]

00:21:57 ◼   ► had i think i may have had to have gone [TS]

00:21:58 ◼   ► and stood on the back porch and smoke [TS]

00:22:00 ◼   ► cigarettes because i could not a fathom [TS]

00:22:03 ◼   ► or be a sufferer endure endure this this [TS]

00:22:08 ◼   ► process by which he who consumed by my [TS]

00:22:12 ◼   ► my baby might receive challenge must be [TS]

00:22:14 ◼   ► tough on you John [TS]

00:22:16 ◼   ► I have no idea how to use it install [TS]

00:22:18 ◼   ► it's on the clothes [TS]

00:22:20 ◼   ► it was a line in which song i've only [TS]

00:22:22 ◼   ► had one cup of coffee so I mean I get [TS]

00:22:24 ◼   ► this it was the one you make you talk [TS]

00:22:25 ◼   ► about it let's talk about an alien race [TS]

00:22:27 ◼   ► on one of the songs don't you mention [TS]

00:22:29 ◼   ► like what's the ones did not they're not [TS]

00:22:31 ◼   ► Vulcans and they're not [TS]

00:22:33 ◼   ► oh wait a minute [TS]

00:22:35 ◼   ► you mentioned yes I do which song is [TS]

00:22:37 ◼   ► that it's a 0 Romulans I do talk about [TS]

00:22:41 ◼   ► Romulans see what Romulan looks like I [TS]

00:22:43 ◼   ► talk about Romulans one time I mention [TS]

00:22:46 ◼   ► removes one time I look at the Romulans [TS]

00:22:49 ◼   ► yeah they look like a Vulcan kinda [TS]

00:22:50 ◼   ► they're very they're related to Vulcans [TS]

00:22:53 ◼   ► are they okay out there like Vulcan [TS]

00:22:55 ◼   ► cousins [TS]

00:22:55 ◼   ► okay all right all right there like bad [TS]

00:22:57 ◼   ► Vulcans that Vulcans yeah and and I [TS]

00:23:00 ◼   ► think creatures of logic John I believe [TS]

00:23:02 ◼   ► that they are they re yes I I you I was [TS]

00:23:05 ◼   ► using Romulans in that in that moment [TS]

00:23:07 ◼   ► moment to describe a certain kind of [TS]

00:23:10 ◼   ► hipster of the time on Hobbesian sense [TS]

00:23:13 ◼   ► yeah the the hipsters that are that are [TS]

00:23:16 ◼   ► there gradually sinking into the mire [TS]

00:23:19 ◼   ► chewing on one another shinbones know [TS]

00:23:22 ◼   ► this this the the the hipsters that look [TS]

00:23:25 ◼   ► like Romulans I mean there wasn't there [TS]

00:23:27 ◼   ► was a whole era there early emo do you [TS]

00:23:30 ◼   ► know you're right you are really right I [TS]

00:23:32 ◼   ► was like Romulan fashion was what what [TS]

00:23:36 ◼   ► the super hip kids were into so when I [TS]

00:23:40 ◼   ► said Romulans I was just making a dig [TS]

00:23:42 ◼   ► and you know there are none of those in [TS]

00:23:44 ◼   ► my songs I've never making any digs at [TS]

00:23:46 ◼   ► anybody [TS]

00:23:47 ◼   ► oh no you're just you're just the [TS]

00:23:49 ◼   ► all-seeing eye at the pier the musical [TS]

00:23:51 ◼   ► pan opticon that's right that's right [TS]

00:23:53 ◼   ► I'm the Bentham of indie rock em you're [TS]

00:23:57 ◼   ► standing sitting in a box somewhere [TS]

00:24:00 ◼   ► yeah that's right i've tried out bent [TS]

00:24:04 ◼   ► them i'm i'm the head of my head of st. [TS]

00:24:06 ◼   ► John my goodness you're your songs are [TS]

00:24:09 ◼   ► so interesting new morning you lazy eye [TS]

00:24:11 ◼   ► to Romulans over crew laughter when [TS]

00:24:13 ◼   ► Katie died duel over my cold shoulder [TS]

00:24:16 ◼   ► that's right and that's not even a long [TS]

00:24:18 ◼   ► winter song oh no it is it is it it [TS]

00:24:20 ◼   ► became one ticket [TS]

00:24:21 ◼   ► yeah yeah Chris wallet play the drum [TS]

00:24:24 ◼   ► machine on that two ramens over that she [TS]

00:24:27 ◼   ► gets on Nelson doing yamaha keyboard [TS]

00:24:28 ◼   ► harmony you're doing it and someone [TS]

00:24:30 ◼   ► someone called robbie lawler Meyer is [TS]

00:24:32 ◼   ► playing drums a great drum part on that [TS]

00:24:34 ◼   ► yeah it's well so it was a it was a [TS]

00:24:36 ◼   ► thing where we had the we have the drum [TS]

00:24:38 ◼   ► machine and then Robbie played to the [TS]

00:24:41 ◼   ► drum machine which is I think the first [TS]

00:24:42 ◼   ► time that happened on one of our records [TS]

00:24:44 ◼   ► and i was very interested in it can't be [TS]

00:24:46 ◼   ► you [TS]

00:24:46 ◼   ► compliment i think that that's terrific [TS]

00:24:48 ◼   ► songs terrific album people who enjoy [TS]

00:24:50 ◼   ► the worst you can do is harm which is [TS]

00:24:51 ◼   ► which is one of the greatest rock songs [TS]

00:24:54 ◼   ► albums of the last 20 years and I should [TS]

00:24:56 ◼   ► also go and check out the worst you can [TS]

00:24:57 ◼   ► do it harm I'll cut this out but that [TS]

00:24:59 ◼   ► that one strikes me as a particularly [TS]

00:25:01 ◼   ► wonderfully manic chris wallace produce [TS]

00:25:03 ◼   ► song i think it worked on that when the [TS]

00:25:05 ◼   ► chris wallace sound really worked on [TS]

00:25:06 ◼   ► that one [TS]

00:25:07 ◼   ► it did although we had a lot of [TS]

00:25:08 ◼   ► disagreements about it you know if we're [TS]

00:25:10 ◼   ► it's like I'm thinking about it doesn't [TS]

00:25:11 ◼   ► have some weird like kind of you know [TS]

00:25:13 ◼   ► ask like 80 things going on it's got a [TS]

00:25:15 ◼   ► really weird sound to it [TS]

00:25:16 ◼   ► remembering right i played the bass on [TS]

00:25:18 ◼   ► it too which is which is additionally [TS]

00:25:20 ◼   ► look at that you did but you know the [TS]

00:25:22 ◼   ► this there are there's some flanges that [TS]

00:25:26 ◼   ► happens in that song that was a result [TS]

00:25:27 ◼   ► of a very old [TS]

00:25:30 ◼   ► I behnaz flanger pedal called the frying [TS]

00:25:32 ◼   ► pan which is it is a super can even see [TS]

00:25:38 ◼   ► that on the market today probably well [TS]

00:25:40 ◼   ► not for naught naught affordably it was [TS]

00:25:43 ◼   ► like it had these islands pedals like a [TS]

00:25:45 ◼   ► black finger and a and a frying pan to [TS]

00:25:48 ◼   ► make the tube screamer that is [TS]

00:25:50 ◼   ► yeah but these these these pedals are [TS]

00:25:52 ◼   ► pre tubescreamer so they're they're the [TS]

00:25:54 ◼   ► size of a box of chocolates how look at [TS]

00:25:57 ◼   ► this thing just looks like like Soviet [TS]

00:26:00 ◼   ► technology [TS]

00:26:01 ◼   ► yeah yeah yeah and it when they were [TS]

00:26:03 ◼   ► gorgeous and the thing about this [TS]

00:26:04 ◼   ► flanger is that it had a it had a sweep [TS]

00:26:08 ◼   ► that even modern digital Flanders all [TS]

00:26:13 ◼   ► these flanges that have a thousand [TS]

00:26:14 ◼   ► parameters you can you can change i've [TS]

00:26:16 ◼   ► still never heard of a flanger that had [TS]

00:26:19 ◼   ► the sound of this crime and the sweep [TS]

00:26:23 ◼   ► was like from all the way are not where [TS]

00:26:30 ◼   ► it sounds like a new a song but where [TS]

00:26:31 ◼   ► its atmospheric and really just really [TS]

00:26:34 ◼   ► analog in and and it was this beautiful [TS]

00:26:37 ◼   ► piece of gear and I used it on that song [TS]

00:26:41 ◼   ► and then there's nothing you can't [TS]

00:26:44 ◼   ► replace it right you can't go buy some [TS]

00:26:46 ◼   ► modified some modded inline-six thing to [TS]

00:26:50 ◼   ► accomplish the sweep and i bet a nice [TS]

00:26:52 ◼   ► sold that pedal because even at the time [TS]

00:26:54 ◼   ► in 2001 was worth 350 bucks really and [TS]

00:26:58 ◼   ► uh [TS]

00:26:59 ◼   ► and now I'm like I mean it's a dumb [TS]

00:27:01 ◼   ► thing to have kept in a closet all these [TS]

00:27:03 ◼   ► years but but when you find a piece of [TS]

00:27:05 ◼   ► something that can actually do something [TS]

00:27:08 ◼   ► that nothing else can do that's those [TS]

00:27:11 ◼   ► are the ones that you that you don't [TS]

00:27:12 ◼   ► sell em but I mean I'm priced out of the [TS]

00:27:15 ◼   ► frying pan market now so I buffy the [TS]

00:27:20 ◼   ► vampire slayer came on at a time when I [TS]

00:27:23 ◼   ► was a very into music on many love bowls [TS]

00:27:27 ◼   ► and spending a lot of time on music the [TS]

00:27:28 ◼   ► TV that I was into I'm gonna say was [TS]

00:27:31 ◼   ► probably what probably still the [TS]

00:27:32 ◼   ► simpsons seinfeld mr. show ya arm but [TS]

00:27:37 ◼   ► the idea of being at that time I [TS]

00:27:39 ◼   ► wouldn't recommend late nineties so the [TS]

00:27:41 ◼   ► idea of being like a 30 something year [TS]

00:27:43 ◼   ► old man and watching a show about a [TS]

00:27:45 ◼   ► teenager who kills vampires was very [TS]

00:27:46 ◼   ► unappealing to me [TS]

00:27:47 ◼   ► did you like the movie I didn't see the [TS]

00:27:49 ◼   ► movie will see the movie was good yeah i [TS]

00:27:52 ◼   ► saw the movie it was a I don't know [TS]

00:27:53 ◼   ► whether I saw ironically or whether i [TS]

00:27:55 ◼   ► saw it [TS]

00:27:56 ◼   ► I'm it must have been somewhat [TS]

00:27:57 ◼   ► ironically I think everything we did in [TS]

00:27:59 ◼   ► the 90s was ironic that's the thing [TS]

00:28:00 ◼   ► you're you've got it you've got to write [TS]

00:28:02 ◼   ► it was it was ironic but it was also [TS]

00:28:04 ◼   ► that's the only way I consume things [TS]

00:28:05 ◼   ► that was a good movie right oh those [TS]

00:28:08 ◼   ► let's go see below the veil parlor but [TS]

00:28:10 ◼   ► it was actually really good I liked it [TS]

00:28:12 ◼   ► yeah yes different Buffy though and I [TS]

00:28:14 ◼   ► don't know I don't know that has all the [TS]

00:28:16 ◼   ► all the original vampires in it [TS]

00:28:17 ◼   ► well that's so i didn't watch the show [TS]

00:28:19 ◼   ► but i know a lot of food anyway I should [TS]

00:28:22 ◼   ► move on all I'm saying is like I feel [TS]

00:28:24 ◼   ► like I should watch it then i also get [TS]

00:28:25 ◼   ► this vibe from people that's like oh it [TS]

00:28:27 ◼   ► gets a lot better you know in later [TS]

00:28:28 ◼   ► seasons you got to kind of go through [TS]

00:28:30 ◼   ► and it's like today that's difficult [TS]

00:28:32 ◼   ► that's difficult because there's so much [TS]

00:28:33 ◼   ► stuff we're like you know like stuff [TS]

00:28:35 ◼   ► will drop on netflix were like every [TS]

00:28:37 ◼   ► episode is so good you know where it's [TS]

00:28:41 ◼   ► like and so setting aside the time [TS]

00:28:42 ◼   ► like--see oh I'm going to find an hour [TS]

00:28:44 ◼   ► to go watch an episode of daredevil or [TS]

00:28:46 ◼   ► whatever but it's like you know now you [TS]

00:28:48 ◼   ► are like you're in for a diamond for a [TS]

00:28:50 ◼   ► dollar like you're right we're gonna [TS]

00:28:51 ◼   ► watch that whole thing in fact netflix [TS]

00:28:52 ◼   ► pink has gotten rather canny about being [TS]

00:28:55 ◼   ► able to determine how successful [TS]

00:28:56 ◼   ► something will be based on what other [TS]

00:28:58 ◼   ► people watched how much of it up they [TS]

00:28:59 ◼   ► watched etc etc etc so using science on [TS]

00:29:02 ◼   ► our television [TS]

00:29:02 ◼   ► oh I know they are they are peeping at [TS]

00:29:05 ◼   ► you [TS]

00:29:05 ◼   ► you and then they're using that to sell [TS]

00:29:08 ◼   ► things to you this is a thing I've just [TS]

00:29:10 ◼   ► been realizing what are they selling [TS]

00:29:11 ◼   ► tian'an how the internet the internet I [TS]

00:29:13 ◼   ► just the whole idea that [TS]

00:29:15 ◼   ► yeah yeah yeah I you know somebody asked [TS]

00:29:18 ◼   ► me the other day like what I thought [TS]

00:29:19 ◼   ► about the grand sweep of madmen and I [TS]

00:29:23 ◼   ► was not obviously not embarrassed but I [TS]

00:29:26 ◼   ► was chagrined to say that at the end of [TS]

00:29:30 ◼   ► the first season of mad men i found it [TS]

00:29:32 ◼   ► to be so nihilistic that I never watch [TS]

00:29:34 ◼   ► it again so the only one down season of [TS]

00:29:37 ◼   ► mad men because realism is not the thing [TS]

00:29:39 ◼   ► that I'm that I'm consuming media for or [TS]

00:29:42 ◼   ► I have enough of it but you're also like [TS]

00:29:44 ◼   ► in that case it's one thing to say that [TS]

00:29:45 ◼   ► you're gonna go watch like you're gonna [TS]

00:29:47 ◼   ► read a Cormac McCarthy book or something [TS]

00:29:49 ◼   ► to say you know what I'm in for the [TS]

00:29:50 ◼   ► nihilism on this one [TS]

00:29:51 ◼   ► yeah when i'm done i closed the book I [TS]

00:29:53 ◼   ► go look at another thing yet with this [TS]

00:29:54 ◼   ► you're going like wow I mean youyou [TS]

00:29:57 ◼   ► gonna watch an hour this know you're [TS]

00:29:58 ◼   ► gonna watch whatever 20 of these and [TS]

00:30:00 ◼   ► then you're gonna watch that four five [TS]

00:30:01 ◼   ► six seasons you know you know that that [TS]

00:30:03 ◼   ► was me in the walking dead which is now [TS]

00:30:04 ◼   ► one of my favorite it probably is one of [TS]

00:30:06 ◼   ► my favorite shows i look really look [TS]

00:30:08 ◼   ► forward to it [TS]

00:30:09 ◼   ► my hand Christ I could not watch it for [TS]

00:30:11 ◼   ► my wife's been into it from the [TS]

00:30:12 ◼   ► beginning I can't watch it was too much [TS]

00:30:14 ◼   ► and now that summer's yeah yeah but it's [TS]

00:30:17 ◼   ► it's really surprisingly realistic very [TS]

00:30:22 ◼   ► grim and like all these great things [TS]

00:30:23 ◼   ► it's kind of about zombies but it's [TS]

00:30:25 ◼   ► really about the people and how they [TS]

00:30:26 ◼   ► react in the aftermath but that's only a [TS]

00:30:28 ◼   ► long time because it was impossibly as [TS]

00:30:31 ◼   ► you seem realistic [TS]

00:30:32 ◼   ► yeah but the problem for me is yeah I'm [TS]

00:30:35 ◼   ► so disinterested in zombies the only [TS]

00:30:38 ◼   ► thing I'm less interested in zombies [TS]

00:30:40 ◼   ► people [TS]

00:30:41 ◼   ► ok oh no this is this is not you should [TS]

00:30:43 ◼   ► not put this on your on your on your [TS]

00:30:45 ◼   ► netflix in my queue and like you know I [TS]

00:30:47 ◼   ► shouldn't be that you watch the [TS]

00:30:48 ◼   ► predestination movie it's got some good [TS]

00:30:50 ◼   ► scenes in it so desperately sweeping [TS]

00:30:53 ◼   ► tracking from sweeping tracking shots [TS]

00:30:55 ◼   ► all the cinematography magnifique [TS]

00:30:58 ◼   ► so Desmond had a a volley in the market [TS]

00:31:01 ◼   ► store [TS]

00:31:02 ◼   ► yeah yeah and about twenty carat diamond [TS]

00:31:05 ◼   ► ring [TS]

00:31:06 ◼   ► mhm know what about doesn't know I'm not [TS]

00:31:09 ◼   ► just notice am Desmond Desmond Desmond [TS]

00:31:12 ◼   ► job is on this island yes to go sit in [TS]

00:31:14 ◼   ► this hole and every 108 minutes has to [TS]

00:31:17 ◼   ► retype this series of know [TS]

00:31:19 ◼   ► vers otherwise something bad happens [TS]

00:31:21 ◼   ► otherwise yes something right so that is [TS]

00:31:23 ◼   ► really good story that some kids are [TS]

00:31:25 ◼   ► making in a cardboard box they cut [TS]

00:31:27 ◼   ► windows in it wasn't just like this [TS]

00:31:29 ◼   ► okay you're Desmond and you have that [TS]

00:31:31 ◼   ► type of million types and then i will be [TS]

00:31:35 ◼   ► a ghost monster who lives with alarm i [TS]

00:31:38 ◼   ► won't come in here unless you stop [TS]

00:31:39 ◼   ► typing [TS]

00:31:40 ◼   ► yeah but that's basically i'm trying to [TS]

00:31:41 ◼   ► say that that's an analogy because [TS]

00:31:43 ◼   ► that's how I feel like my life is my [TS]

00:31:44 ◼   ► life is not difficult at all basically [TS]

00:31:46 ◼   ► just have to type something every [TS]

00:31:47 ◼   ► hundred eight minutes but if I don't [TS]

00:31:48 ◼   ► type in every hundred minutes there's [TS]

00:31:49 ◼   ► gonna be problems [TS]

00:31:50 ◼   ► oh so this is why I tend to say in other [TS]

00:31:53 ◼   ► places that I don't think of myself as [TS]

00:31:54 ◼   ► busy I think of myself as time [TS]

00:31:56 ◼   ► constrained because i've got to be at [TS]

00:31:57 ◼   ► the keyboard to type every hundred eight [TS]

00:31:59 ◼   ► minutes so you know the universe and [TS]

00:32:01 ◼   ► though I'm not trying to be overly cute [TS]

00:32:03 ◼   ► or clever here I think that's a [TS]

00:32:04 ◼   ► condition of a lot of people today is [TS]

00:32:06 ◼   ► like there's it isn't like you have to [TS]

00:32:08 ◼   ► what are some of the things you always [TS]

00:32:10 ◼   ► pull out their ass you don't have to [TS]

00:32:11 ◼   ► like go mine coal right you get to go bc [TS]

00:32:14 ◼   ► do stuff i'm saying what i do is [TS]

00:32:15 ◼   ► difficult but it is there is a certain [TS]

00:32:17 ◼   ► schedule and regularity to it then what [TS]

00:32:19 ◼   ► you're saying is that like I think that [TS]

00:32:22 ◼   ► most of my time crunch problems could be [TS]

00:32:24 ◼   ► solved if I could stop time because if I [TS]

00:32:26 ◼   ► just stops what are not if I stop time [TS]

00:32:28 ◼   ► if there were four extra hours in a day [TS]

00:32:30 ◼   ► right because i want to sleep for eight [TS]

00:32:33 ◼   ► hours but i also want to stay up until [TS]

00:32:35 ◼   ► four in the morning but i also want to [TS]

00:32:38 ◼   ► get up at 8am oh right you got like two [TS]

00:32:41 ◼   ► or three problems [TS]

00:32:42 ◼   ► yeah so I mean yeah I I don't want to go [TS]

00:32:44 ◼   ► to sleep before 4am for some reason [TS]

00:32:46 ◼   ► because that is what my body said his [TS]

00:32:48 ◼   ► body's telling you i also want to get [TS]

00:32:50 ◼   ► eight hours of sleep but I want to get [TS]

00:32:51 ◼   ► up at eight in the morning so i can join [TS]

00:32:53 ◼   ► the world and be with other people [TS]

00:32:54 ◼   ► yeah and so what I need is just for [TS]

00:32:56 ◼   ► extra hours that are just completely [TS]

00:32:59 ◼   ► reserved for the additional four hours [TS]

00:33:02 ◼   ► of sleep i need and that's what [TS]

00:33:04 ◼   ► condition those you kind of I mean not [TS]

00:33:05 ◼   ► saying you are expressly saying this but [TS]

00:33:07 ◼   ► in in a similar dilemma I feel like I in [TS]

00:33:10 ◼   ► that similar situation i actually want [TS]

00:33:11 ◼   ► to be three different people because [TS]

00:33:13 ◼   ► they're there's less certain let's take [TS]

00:33:14 ◼   ► it as read there is the person who just [TS]

00:33:16 ◼   ► for whatever reason likes to stay up [TS]

00:33:17 ◼   ► late i have for most of my life with you [TS]

00:33:20 ◼   ► know occasional needs to do otherwise [TS]

00:33:23 ◼   ► been somebody who likes staying up late [TS]

00:33:24 ◼   ► let's take that is its own thing [TS]

00:33:26 ◼   ► good-by three i would go to 3x 3y want [TS]

00:33:28 ◼   ► to go to bed but then you also want to [TS]

00:33:30 ◼   ► be the person let's say then you want to [TS]

00:33:32 ◼   ► the person who gets up [TS]

00:33:32 ◼   ► pearly being the person who gets up [TS]

00:33:34 ◼   ► early and the person who goes to bed [TS]

00:33:36 ◼   ► early [TS]

00:33:36 ◼   ► they're related but different people yes [TS]

00:33:38 ◼   ► as the get up early in the morning [TS]

00:33:41 ◼   ► person is the ultimate aspirational [TS]

00:33:42 ◼   ► personality [TS]

00:33:43 ◼   ► yep here we go to charge the day let's [TS]

00:33:45 ◼   ► do it i'm done i've had half a cup of [TS]

00:33:47 ◼   ► coffee and a scone [TS]

00:33:49 ◼   ► I don't need anymore because i'm going [TS]

00:33:51 ◼   ► to the gym I'm doing Pilates before i go [TS]

00:33:52 ◼   ► to work you gotta you gotta work on your [TS]

00:33:54 ◼   ► core and then everything going to bed [TS]

00:33:56 ◼   ► early person like that'sthat's in some [TS]

00:33:58 ◼   ► ways that the real monk that yeah that's [TS]

00:34:00 ◼   ► the personality who sets all things [TS]

00:34:03 ◼   ► aside and says well I just go to bed at [TS]

00:34:05 ◼   ► nine forty-five because that's what I do [TS]

00:34:07 ◼   ► yep talking myself in here got my pjs on [TS]

00:34:09 ◼   ► pol vets sheet up under my chin you [TS]

00:34:12 ◼   ► think your mom suffered from this at all [TS]

00:34:13 ◼   ► it seems like she's got this all pretty [TS]

00:34:15 ◼   ► much on lock [TS]

00:34:16 ◼   ► well no I mean she's a person that only [TS]

00:34:18 ◼   ► needs four hours of sleep because that's [TS]

00:34:20 ◼   ► what happens apparently when you get to [TS]

00:34:21 ◼   ► be an elderly person right but also when [TS]

00:34:25 ◼   ► the sun goes down she starts to wind it [TS]

00:34:29 ◼   ► down because it's like farm people write [TS]

00:34:33 ◼   ► his son gets up [TS]

00:34:35 ◼   ► you've got to get out and make you know [TS]

00:34:38 ◼   ► you're burning daylight [TS]

00:34:39 ◼   ► alright but as soon as the Sun Goes Down [TS]

00:34:41 ◼   ► I think that she thinks like well you [TS]

00:34:44 ◼   ► know the oil in these lamps isn't free [TS]

00:34:46 ◼   ► right keep burning keep burning this oil [TS]

00:34:49 ◼   ► and burn especially burn the midnight [TS]

00:34:51 ◼   ► that's an interesting way to look at it [TS]

00:34:53 ◼   ► because if you think about it and not to [TS]

00:34:54 ◼   ► put too fine a point on it but if you [TS]

00:34:55 ◼   ► think about in terms of let's say you [TS]

00:34:57 ◼   ► are somebody like living on a farm in [TS]

00:34:58 ◼   ► Ohio and you do have limited resources [TS]

00:34:59 ◼   ► and you do have stuff you need to do you [TS]

00:35:02 ◼   ► start to feel maybe a little bit like [TS]

00:35:04 ◼   ► you're you're taking yet taking on a [TS]

00:35:06 ◼   ► certain amount of debt you're burning [TS]

00:35:08 ◼   ► these resources to do what are you [TS]

00:35:10 ◼   ► burning those resources so you can watch [TS]

00:35:11 ◼   ► these in one of vampire buffy the [TS]

00:35:13 ◼   ► vampire slayer well you gotta be making [TS]

00:35:15 ◼   ► biscuits at three-thirty so you may want [TS]

00:35:17 ◼   ► to think twice about that you're like [TS]

00:35:18 ◼   ► kind of hurt yourself two or three [TS]

00:35:19 ◼   ► different ways [TS]

00:35:20 ◼   ► yeah i mean all of the work that you [TS]

00:35:21 ◼   ► this is and I think it's probably true [TS]

00:35:24 ◼   ► I don't mind even be true of people that [TS]

00:35:26 ◼   ► listen to our program but if your work [TS]

00:35:27 ◼   ► if your work is done outside it is [TS]

00:35:31 ◼   ► completely daylight dependent and so [TS]

00:35:35 ◼   ► yeah you're your interaction with the [TS]

00:35:38 ◼   ► world is so much different than mine [TS]

00:35:40 ◼   ► which nothing I do is daylight dependent [TS]

00:35:42 ◼   ► in fact it's much better done [TS]

00:35:44 ◼   ► cloaked in darkness so but but it sounds [TS]

00:35:50 ◼   ► to me like your time management thing [TS]

00:35:51 ◼   ► that this idea that every hundred and [TS]

00:35:53 ◼   ► twenty minutes you have to type into a [TS]

00:35:55 ◼   ► computer you would you wouldn't benefit [TS]

00:35:58 ◼   ► from for extra hours that happen in the [TS]

00:36:01 ◼   ► middle of the night because you're you [TS]

00:36:02 ◼   ► have to beat your tether no that's not [TS]

00:36:05 ◼   ► strictly true i mean that I'm stretching [TS]

00:36:06 ◼   ► the analogy here but all i meant to say [TS]

00:36:07 ◼   ► was that like on a monday morning I know [TS]

00:36:09 ◼   ► their stuff that's got to happen we have [TS]

00:36:11 ◼   ► an orthodontist appointment today so i [TS]

00:36:12 ◼   ► have to remember to put the retainers in [TS]

00:36:14 ◼   ► my backpack because I'm gonna take her [TS]

00:36:16 ◼   ► alma to school after picture to their [TS]

00:36:18 ◼   ► after-school any that with me you don't [TS]

00:36:19 ◼   ► mean that my whole thing i do have kind [TS]

00:36:21 ◼   ► of walking through the day I'm thinking [TS]

00:36:23 ◼   ► about to have the ad spots right I got [TS]

00:36:24 ◼   ► none of these things are difficult but [TS]

00:36:26 ◼   ► like it doesn't take that its kind of [TS]

00:36:28 ◼   ► fault intolerant or like if i do [TS]

00:36:30 ◼   ► something as simple as forget to put the [TS]

00:36:31 ◼   ► retainers in the backpack like that [TS]

00:36:33 ◼   ► really screws up this one part of the [TS]

00:36:35 ◼   ► date not irretrievably bad but you know [TS]

00:36:38 ◼   ► even when everything runs perfectly it's [TS]

00:36:39 ◼   ► still kind of a pain in the ass [TS]

00:36:41 ◼   ► yeah but you know i'm on my way I'm [TS]

00:36:42 ◼   ► doing my thing that says all getting me [TS]

00:36:44 ◼   ► back to a really dumb point I didn't [TS]

00:36:45 ◼   ► even really need to make which is my [TS]

00:36:47 ◼   ► phone rings how do you feel about your [TS]

00:36:49 ◼   ► phone ringing in the morning [TS]

00:36:51 ◼   ► oh I hate when my phone rings only it [TS]

00:36:54 ◼   ► could only be bad news [TS]

00:36:55 ◼   ► yes that's that's how they get you [TS]

00:36:59 ◼   ► yeah so I'm sitting there and of course [TS]

00:37:00 ◼   ► it's an instant used to be when you got [TS]

00:37:03 ◼   ► let's just say nuisance calls or [TS]

00:37:06 ◼   ► unwanted calls it was almost always from [TS]

00:37:09 ◼   ► unknown or from blocked or from whatever [TS]

00:37:11 ◼   ► which I felt perfectly fine just ignore [TS]

00:37:13 ◼   ► it go to voicemail in technology i don't [TS]

00:37:15 ◼   ► know if you get this with the 206 i get [TS]

00:37:17 ◼   ► this with a 415 well get one coming in [TS]

00:37:20 ◼   ► with actually shocking shockingly close [TS]

00:37:22 ◼   ► to my own phone number i'm like oh god [TS]

00:37:24 ◼   ► yeah I can't not pick this up and then I [TS]

00:37:28 ◼   ► start fighting myself because I'm going [TS]

00:37:29 ◼   ► you know is this is this is a leucine [TS]

00:37:31 ◼   ► the football all over again [TS]

00:37:33 ◼   ► I know I know it's going to be a [TS]

00:37:34 ◼   ► robocall about credit cards or mortgages [TS]

00:37:38 ◼   ► or whatever and I fight myself when I [TS]

00:37:39 ◼   ► find myself but now my heart starts [TS]

00:37:42 ◼   ► beating because I'm like what am I gonna [TS]

00:37:43 ◼   ► do what I do so I let it go to voicemail [TS]

00:37:45 ◼   ► I go in google phone number this is [TS]

00:37:48 ◼   ► always the first thing I do before I [TS]

00:37:49 ◼   ► pick up any call right make sense i've [TS]

00:37:52 ◼   ► done it at yeah its credit card thing [TS]

00:37:54 ◼   ► it's a fake credit card scam thing [TS]

00:37:56 ◼   ► yeah but now i'm already little bit off [TS]

00:37:58 ◼   ► my game [TS]

00:37:58 ◼   ► because now I have to stop what I'm [TS]

00:37:59 ◼   ► doing stare at the phone get anxious and [TS]

00:38:01 ◼   ► then go search google i realize this [TS]

00:38:03 ◼   ► very clearly illustrates what a fragile [TS]

00:38:05 ◼   ► person i am because like that's already [TS]

00:38:07 ◼   ► throwing me off my game now you know [TS]

00:38:09 ◼   ► that's the kind of thing where like [TS]

00:38:10 ◼   ► that'sthat's it's not dissimilar from [TS]

00:38:12 ◼   ► the male and female which is like in [TS]

00:38:15 ◼   ► this is this the shade into my former [TS]

00:38:17 ◼   ► profession as a retired productivity [TS]

00:38:19 ◼   ► guru such as long as there is anything [TS]

00:38:21 ◼   ► anywhere that you might need to know [TS]

00:38:23 ◼   ► about [TS]

00:38:24 ◼   ► you've got a friend about it a little [TS]

00:38:25 ◼   ► bit yeah I'm it's also you know we do [TS]

00:38:27 ◼   ► buddy [TS]

00:38:28 ◼   ► every every afternoon early evening i go [TS]

00:38:30 ◼   ► down and there's a giant pile of safeway [TS]

00:38:33 ◼   ► flyers [TS]

00:38:33 ◼   ► yeah I our mail slot and you know what I [TS]

00:38:35 ◼   ► gotta do I gotta pick up and look [TS]

00:38:37 ◼   ► through every safeway flyer to be sure [TS]

00:38:39 ◼   ► that we're not changing their name or [TS]

00:38:41 ◼   ► whatever likely that make sure it's not [TS]

00:38:44 ◼   ► a piece of real mail that got sand into [TS]

00:38:47 ◼   ► the safeway flyer i feel like every year [TS]

00:38:49 ◼   ► the degree to which I am just slightly [TS]

00:38:52 ◼   ► over my budget my yearly budget [TS]

00:38:56 ◼   ► yeah is is down to the fact that I threw [TS]

00:39:00 ◼   ► away a couple of really big checks that [TS]

00:39:01 ◼   ► were talking into a safeway flyer i [TS]

00:39:03 ◼   ► think about it a lot you know where it's [TS]

00:39:05 ◼   ► like well if I just had 10,000 more [TS]

00:39:07 ◼   ► dollars and I bet you about you I did [TS]

00:39:10 ◼   ► yepp baby it was just in there with the [TS]

00:39:12 ◼   ► with this the cheap steaks right and [TS]

00:39:14 ◼   ► make our body even though I'm feeling [TS]

00:39:16 ◼   ► really seasons coming at ya [TS]

00:39:20 ◼   ► I you know I for a long time I didn't [TS]

00:39:23 ◼   ► ever put my phone number and address in [TS]

00:39:26 ◼   ► any kind of you know if i was at the [TS]

00:39:27 ◼   ► doctor if I was at the pharmacy or if I [TS]

00:39:30 ◼   ► was at the airline and they said you [TS]

00:39:32 ◼   ► know put your name and address and phone [TS]

00:39:34 ◼   ► number i would like always try to not [TS]

00:39:37 ◼   ► and then increasingly websites were like [TS]

00:39:41 ◼   ► that's required its required we need [TS]

00:39:43 ◼   ► your phone number because what if the [TS]

00:39:45 ◼   ► reservation changes we need your phone [TS]

00:39:47 ◼   ► number because but typically between I [TS]

00:39:49 ◼   ► know exactly what you're saying then you [TS]

00:39:50 ◼   ► see them is required for what [TS]

00:39:52 ◼   ► yeah but it's like I like to say [TS]

00:39:53 ◼   ► sometimes when I'm being a pill is i'll [TS]

00:39:55 ◼   ► say okay is that a law a rural a policy [TS]

00:39:59 ◼   ► or a suggestion [TS]

00:40:00 ◼   ► yeah because those mean very different [TS]

00:40:02 ◼   ► things to me I don't think that's [TS]

00:40:03 ◼   ► actually a law that's a request that [TS]

00:40:06 ◼   ► you're gonna try and play off legit [TS]

00:40:07 ◼   ► actually gonna use to fuck me [TS]

00:40:09 ◼   ► but if you're doing it online and you [TS]

00:40:11 ◼   ► don't [TS]

00:40:12 ◼   ► fill out there things that will let you [TS]

00:40:14 ◼   ► go to the next page right enjoys you up [TS]

00:40:15 ◼   ► and it's like that there's a little [TS]

00:40:16 ◼   ► arrow there pointing at where your phone [TS]

00:40:18 ◼   ► needs to go and so you you get pushed [TS]

00:40:22 ◼   ► into this posture like okay I guess you [TS]

00:40:24 ◼   ► know I listen I would rather drive to [TS]

00:40:26 ◼   ► the airport and find my flight had been [TS]

00:40:28 ◼   ► cancelled and turn around and go home [TS]

00:40:30 ◼   ► that I would give you my phone number [TS]

00:40:34 ◼   ► airline but they require so you put it [TS]

00:40:37 ◼   ► in and so eventually I stopped I stop [TS]

00:40:40 ◼   ► being such a stickler about it because [TS]

00:40:42 ◼   ► they started to feel like this is just a [TS]

00:40:44 ◼   ► new thing you have to do [TS]

00:40:46 ◼   ► put your phone number well used to be [TS]

00:40:47 ◼   ► used to be some security numbers [TS]

00:40:49 ◼   ► remember like when that was your student [TS]

00:40:51 ◼   ► ID or that's what you just used for [TS]

00:40:53 ◼   ► anything [TS]

00:40:53 ◼   ► login using your social security number [TS]

00:40:55 ◼   ► i don't know well I prefer not to but if [TS]

00:40:58 ◼   ► that's the system I guess I better use [TS]

00:40:59 ◼   ► it when I have a for me [TS]

00:41:01 ◼   ► we used to use our social security [TS]

00:41:03 ◼   ► numbers all the time I haven't put my [TS]

00:41:04 ◼   ► social security number in anything for [TS]

00:41:07 ◼   ► years [TS]

00:41:08 ◼   ► amazon is only student ID and it was on [TS]

00:41:10 ◼   ► everyone i had to clean up some stuff [TS]

00:41:11 ◼   ► for my mom's house a few years back it [TS]

00:41:13 ◼   ► was on pretty much every sheet of paper [TS]

00:41:15 ◼   ► that my college gave me [TS]

00:41:16 ◼   ► yeah it was how you prove to work it was [TS]

00:41:18 ◼   ► your student it was like this equals [TS]

00:41:20 ◼   ► equals you but so I got a prescription [TS]

00:41:22 ◼   ► filled in New Yorker in Baltimore [TS]

00:41:24 ◼   ► something like that a walgreens and they [TS]

00:41:28 ◼   ► wanted my phone number and now I swear [TS]

00:41:31 ◼   ► to you every month I get a robocall from [TS]

00:41:34 ◼   ► a new york area code and generally [TS]

00:41:37 ◼   ► anybody anyway that's called me from New [TS]

00:41:39 ◼   ► York on the phone is somebody that's I [TS]

00:41:43 ◼   ► presume calling to say hey we've got an [TS]

00:41:46 ◼   ► opportunity here for us to use one of [TS]

00:41:48 ◼   ► your songs in buffy the vampire slayer [TS]

00:41:50 ◼   ► spin-off and we just need your approval [TS]

00:41:53 ◼   ► right now because it's going to be a [TS]

00:41:54 ◼   ► hundred and fifty thousand dollars and [TS]

00:41:56 ◼   ► please call me back and so I get these [TS]

00:41:59 ◼   ► new york area code is that you want to [TS]

00:42:02 ◼   ► what is that [TS]

00:42:03 ◼   ► yeah 2127 640 or whatever it is I don't [TS]

00:42:08 ◼   ► remember but i but I recognize them in [TS]

00:42:10 ◼   ► the moment and I it's got me like six [TS]

00:42:13 ◼   ► times i pick it up and it's like hi it's [TS]

00:42:17 ◼   ► time to refill your prescription at the [TS]

00:42:18 ◼   ► Brooklyn walgreens but died a thousand [TS]

00:42:22 ◼   ► deaths [TS]

00:42:23 ◼   ► I don't know who to I don't know who now [TS]

00:42:25 ◼   ► know what or how or who I could ever do [TS]

00:42:28 ◼   ► to get this to stop doing this right [TS]

00:42:31 ◼   ► it's just right away but wait how do i [TS]

00:42:34 ◼   ► unsubscribe you can't well and it's like [TS]

00:42:37 ◼   ► it's also that feeling of helplessness [TS]

00:42:38 ◼   ► we're like well if you know it back in [TS]

00:42:40 ◼   ► the day when we used to think like [TS]

00:42:41 ◼   ► somebody telemarketer will call you so [TS]

00:42:43 ◼   ► you buy mother do not call this please [TS]

00:42:45 ◼   ► remove me from the list but in the case [TS]

00:42:47 ◼   ► of your phone number i guess like you're [TS]

00:42:49 ◼   ► so Security's got into so many places we [TS]

00:42:51 ◼   ► like how would you even know where to [TS]

00:42:53 ◼   ► begin [TS]

00:42:54 ◼   ► you know like you got a robocall sorting [TS]

00:42:56 ◼   ► a match on numbers for several minutes [TS]

00:42:57 ◼   ► let him know that you don't know how [TS]

00:42:59 ◼   ► happy you'll engage with a random phone [TS]

00:43:00 ◼   ► call because you know that's data that's [TS]

00:43:02 ◼   ► data private data when they when they [TS]

00:43:04 ◼   ► call you up and the 1i get frequently is [TS]

00:43:07 ◼   ► this is an important call about your [TS]

00:43:09 ◼   ► current credit card there's not a [TS]

00:43:11 ◼   ► problem the car but this is their last [TS]

00:43:12 ◼   ► opportunity to be leading it's the same [TS]

00:43:14 ◼   ► one every time and they're like you got [TS]

00:43:15 ◼   ► press 2 or whatever to continue and of [TS]

00:43:18 ◼   ► course i guess some kind of button is [TS]

00:43:19 ◼   ► not hooked up to anything to say you [TS]

00:43:22 ◼   ► want off it but like all that does is [TS]

00:43:23 ◼   ► this is how publishers clearing house [TS]

00:43:25 ◼   ► works right i mean i knew this 20 years [TS]

00:43:27 ◼   ► ago like the right way publishers [TS]

00:43:29 ◼   ► clearing house works is you get on [TS]

00:43:31 ◼   ► increasingly more execrable list list [TS]

00:43:33 ◼   ► depending on how many pictures of the [TS]

00:43:35 ◼   ► Buick you pasted into the publishers [TS]

00:43:37 ◼   ► clearing house we got a live one here [TS]

00:43:40 ◼   ► there this will fill out a picture now [TS]

00:43:42 ◼   ► you're pre-qualified yeah no I'm [TS]

00:43:44 ◼   ► pre-qualified for everything Merlin if i [TS]

00:43:47 ◼   ► wanted to i could buy i could buy a [TS]

00:43:49 ◼   ► Gulfstream jet because i have been [TS]

00:43:52 ◼   ► pre-qualified up to 100 million dollars [TS]

00:43:55 ◼   ► huh [TS]

00:43:56 ◼   ► but uh but it's 29 % APR financing [TS]

00:44:02 ◼   ► first-years free standard pretty [TS]

00:44:07 ◼   ► standard yeah it's just boilerplate [TS]

00:44:08 ◼   ► stuff related sign the sign right here [TS]

00:44:11 ◼   ► I've been getting a thing lately in the [TS]

00:44:12 ◼   ► actual mail heavy bond beautiful [TS]

00:44:17 ◼   ► photographs of a thing where what is it [TS]

00:44:20 ◼   ► from its not the hilton hotel because [TS]

00:44:22 ◼   ► i'm on their permanent black West but it [TS]

00:44:25 ◼   ► might be the shit [TS]

00:44:26 ◼   ► cher tune sorry star with me it's not [TS]

00:44:29 ◼   ► starwood because that i know and i know [TS]

00:44:32 ◼   ► enough to throw everything that has the [TS]

00:44:33 ◼   ► word starwood on it right into the [TS]

00:44:35 ◼   ► shredder is that right but it's um it's [TS]

00:44:38 ◼   ► it's like it's a legitimate enterprise [TS]

00:44:41 ◼   ► right it's something nice genuinely nice [TS]

00:44:44 ◼   ► like I don't know if I would call sharon [TS]

00:44:47 ◼   ► that but it's not something like that [TS]

00:44:48 ◼   ► where you're like this is I'm looking [TS]

00:44:50 ◼   ► I'm flipping this around i'm reading the [TS]

00:44:53 ◼   ► fine print very carefully to see where [TS]

00:44:56 ◼   ► it says that I'm gonna have to sit for [TS]

00:44:58 ◼   ► an hour in a timeshare right meeting I [TS]

00:45:02 ◼   ► don't see any of that and i'm looking at [TS]

00:45:04 ◼   ► this thing and basically what it is is [TS]

00:45:05 ◼   ► like a airfare and hotel to Maui for [TS]

00:45:13 ◼   ► seven days seven nights I guess any days [TS]

00:45:18 ◼   ► all in for you know for low low price of [TS]

00:45:25 ◼   ► 795 dollars [TS]

00:45:27 ◼   ► I'm like this is insane this seems like [TS]

00:45:30 ◼   ► a really good deal and you know I'm [TS]

00:45:34 ◼   ► turning it over and over looking at it [TS]

00:45:35 ◼   ► like what's the catch what's the catch [TS]

00:45:38 ◼   ► and in every you know at every point [TS]

00:45:40 ◼   ► even the little micro wording of things [TS]

00:45:43 ◼   ► where a catch could be hidden the micro [TS]

00:45:48 ◼   ► wording of this thing is worded in such [TS]

00:45:51 ◼   ► a way that there's no no catch their [TS]

00:45:53 ◼   ► right either they are either they are [TS]

00:45:56 ◼   ► just bald ass lying dallas and you show [TS]

00:46:01 ◼   ► up and when you are standing at the [TS]

00:46:03 ◼   ► front desk they do that thing where [TS]

00:46:04 ◼   ► they're like oh I'm sorry there are no [TS]

00:46:06 ◼   ► double rooms available and i will wait [TS]

00:46:09 ◼   ► am I now I know you just bracing you're [TS]

00:46:10 ◼   ► just like you're just one big knot and [TS]

00:46:13 ◼   ► anxiety waiting to find out how to get [TS]

00:46:14 ◼   ► you [TS]

00:46:15 ◼   ► yeah like oh sorry the only rooms that [TS]

00:46:17 ◼   ► apply to this plan are one full-size bed [TS]

00:46:21 ◼   ► or whatever I'm like I'm your three [TS]

00:46:23 ◼   ► people but so i'm reading this thing I'm [TS]

00:46:26 ◼   ► like I can figure out the catch struck [TS]

00:46:30 ◼   ► me crazy this seems like a good deal but [TS]

00:46:33 ◼   ► it but I don't want to be I don't want [TS]

00:46:36 ◼   ► to be the 75 year old was like sounds [TS]

00:46:38 ◼   ► like a great deal and you buy it [TS]

00:46:39 ◼   ► and then they're taking four dollars a [TS]

00:46:41 ◼   ► month out of your account and then when [TS]

00:46:43 ◼   ► I really looked at it I was like oh wait [TS]

00:46:44 ◼   ► a minute this is still like a hundred [TS]

00:46:47 ◼   ► and twenty dollars a day [TS]

00:46:49 ◼   ► yeah right it's not you have gotten that [TS]

00:46:51 ◼   ► deal i got that deal one time where [TS]

00:46:53 ◼   ► there's a semi popular sort of like in [TS]

00:46:58 ◼   ► the days before we knew about things [TS]

00:46:59 ◼   ► like Max fun Cruz joko cruise this guy [TS]

00:47:03 ◼   ► was really active in trouble for this [TS]

00:47:06 ◼   ► this guy was very actively trying to get [TS]

00:47:08 ◼   ► me to go on this cruise for people who [TS]

00:47:12 ◼   ► are somewhat notable with regard to a [TS]

00:47:16 ◼   ► certain computer platform with Rahu and [TS]

00:47:19 ◼   ► he was really like this is your family [TS]

00:47:20 ◼   ► going to go it's gonna be amazing and i [TS]

00:47:22 ◼   ► did when i did the math on it was like [TS]

00:47:24 ◼   ► any sea cruise you mean Star Trek thing [TS]

00:47:27 ◼   ► wasn't any see that was the appropriate [TS]

00:47:31 ◼   ► platform or the jack the neck and yes I [TS]

00:47:35 ◼   ► think it's the Nintendo oh and yes no [TS]

00:47:37 ◼   ► didn't it would cost me about ten [TS]

00:47:38 ◼   ► thousand dollars to go on the cruise [TS]

00:47:40 ◼   ► once i figured it all out I mean you [TS]

00:47:42 ◼   ► know it's like nobody is going to send [TS]

00:47:44 ◼   ► you something nice bond paper that's [TS]

00:47:45 ◼   ► actually good for you right and fighters [TS]

00:47:49 ◼   ► have farmed the thicker the bond the [TS]

00:47:52 ◼   ► harder the screw finger the bond you [TS]

00:47:54 ◼   ► find out any see computer [TS]

00:47:58 ◼   ► am I crazy here no I think that's a [TS]

00:48:00 ◼   ► that's a thing [TS]

00:48:02 ◼   ► national electronic computer company or [TS]

00:48:04 ◼   ► something [TS]

00:48:05 ◼   ► NEC global oh yeah look at the mall NEC [TS]

00:48:09 ◼   ► sure sure sure sure I wasn't sure [TS]

00:48:13 ◼   ► story checks out there some computers [TS]

00:48:15 ◼   ► yeah yeah I'm so i have to say i still [TS]

00:48:20 ◼   ► have this brochure are my on my table [TS]

00:48:22 ◼   ► even though it expired on march 15 [TS]

00:48:25 ◼   ► because I'm still just I'm turning it [TS]

00:48:28 ◼   ► over and over my hands like did I miss [TS]

00:48:30 ◼   ► an opportunity here or is this is this [TS]

00:48:33 ◼   ► like such a a great con job such a total [TS]

00:48:37 ◼   ► screw job like what you what you don't [TS]

00:48:40 ◼   ► want you don't want a situation where [TS]

00:48:43 ◼   ► here's this big hotel in Malley and [TS]

00:48:46 ◼   ► they're just under capacity and they're [TS]

00:48:48 ◼   ► just trying to do this to get rid of [TS]

00:48:50 ◼   ► this [TS]

00:48:50 ◼   ► at these excess rooms right and the [TS]

00:48:52 ◼   ► rooms are just as beautiful as they are [TS]

00:48:54 ◼   ► on as they are shown to be on this on [TS]

00:48:57 ◼   ► this brochure and I'm not interrupting [TS]

00:48:59 ◼   ► but you were very much aware that this [TS]

00:49:01 ◼   ► is a real phenomenon when it comes to [TS]

00:49:03 ◼   ► flight where you've all read the [TS]

00:49:04 ◼   ► articles about how every person on that [TS]

00:49:06 ◼   ► plane paid something different one [TS]

00:49:07 ◼   ► person on that plane paid one tenth of [TS]

00:49:10 ◼   ► the price for a coach ticket somebody [TS]

00:49:12 ◼   ► else did not a real thing involving [TS]

00:49:14 ◼   ► capacity supply and demand right right [TS]

00:49:16 ◼   ► so don't seem out of the imagination [TS]

00:49:17 ◼   ► that this would be a real thing when i [TS]

00:49:19 ◼   ► went on what I was flying back from the [TS]

00:49:21 ◼   ► Joker's there were some people there in [TS]

00:49:24 ◼   ► the economy comfort area and i'm not i'm [TS]

00:49:30 ◼   ► not above saying that I i fly economy [TS]

00:49:33 ◼   ► comfort when I can and there was it's [TS]

00:49:36 ◼   ► like economy plus like a slightly bigger [TS]

00:49:38 ◼   ► chair and has been another chair and you [TS]

00:49:40 ◼   ► know and and there were a couple they're [TS]

00:49:44 ◼   ► coming back from the cruise and they in [TS]

00:49:47 ◼   ► their loudest voices were like oh my god [TS]

00:49:50 ◼   ► we had no seat assignment until we got [TS]

00:49:52 ◼   ► here at the airport and then they just [TS]

00:49:54 ◼   ► put us here in these in these chairs at [TS]

00:49:57 ◼   ► in the front row like their economy [TS]

00:50:00 ◼   ► comfort seats were even better than mine [TS]

00:50:02 ◼   ► and they were like we only paid a [TS]

00:50:04 ◼   ► hundred twenty-five dollars from for [TS]

00:50:06 ◼   ► this whole flight from expedia.com dot [TS]

00:50:09 ◼   ► org and everyone else in the plane you [TS]

00:50:13 ◼   ► know had those uh have those like Tom [TS]

00:50:17 ◼   ► and Jerry knives coming out of their [TS]

00:50:20 ◼   ► eyes at them like ok great for you shut [TS]

00:50:24 ◼   ► up sit down stop it you're making me [TS]

00:50:27 ◼   ► feel awful [TS]

00:50:28 ◼   ► they're like we got a hundred and twenty [TS]

00:50:30 ◼   ► dollars and they just put us right here [TS]

00:50:32 ◼   ► in seats 1a and 2a not cool not cool [TS]

00:50:36 ◼   ► like Tom and Jerry nice um commentary [TS]

00:50:44 ◼   ► knives [TS]

00:50:45 ◼   ► yeah no no let's make it in don't worry [TS]

00:50:47 ◼   ► but what about whatever it was the butt [TS]

00:50:49 ◼   ► of the big bad wolf [TS]

00:50:50 ◼   ► how do you feel about the big bad wolf I [TS]

00:50:52 ◼   ► just said that the whole like kind of [TS]

00:50:54 ◼   ► post Red Riding Hood idea [TS]

00:50:56 ◼   ► yeah where the big bad wolf became like [TS]

00:50:58 ◼   ► a trope we're all of a sudden they're [TS]

00:51:00 ◼   ► big bad wolves [TS]

00:51:01 ◼   ► everywhere oh yes you got separated from [TS]

00:51:03 ◼   ► red robin hood [TS]

00:51:04 ◼   ► oh yeah you got me thinking about red [TS]

00:51:06 ◼   ► riding hood as being important because [TS]

00:51:08 ◼   ► like that's a story lots of kids here [TS]

00:51:10 ◼   ► you old you think about it you realize [TS]

00:51:12 ◼   ► it's probably about sexual assault and [TS]

00:51:15 ◼   ► then you get cartoons where there's a [TS]

00:51:16 ◼   ► lot of wolves you got a certain kind of [TS]

00:51:18 ◼   ► wolf in a zoot suit was checking out [TS]

00:51:19 ◼   ► ladies see right whose tongue and [TS]

00:51:21 ◼   ► eyeballs come out of his head when i [TS]

00:51:23 ◼   ► checked Jones wolf my arm my lying or [TS]

00:51:26 ◼   ► the same kind of wolf that might think [TS]

00:51:28 ◼   ► you look at the pork chop [TS]

00:51:29 ◼   ► right right right that'll happen a wolf [TS]

00:51:31 ◼   ► that goes through a wall and he's a wolf [TS]

00:51:32 ◼   ► shaped hole that'll happen what I think [TS]

00:51:35 ◼   ► about the wolf I I don't have a super [TS]

00:51:38 ◼   ► strong feeling about it [TS]

00:51:39 ◼   ► we have not been a big fairy tale family [TS]

00:51:41 ◼   ► I feel like it's been a little bit of a [TS]

00:51:42 ◼   ► failing interesting now I've tried I [TS]

00:51:45 ◼   ► tried because there's a beloved readers [TS]

00:51:47 ◼   ► digest readers digest book of fairy [TS]

00:51:49 ◼   ► tales that I grew up with little pencil [TS]

00:51:51 ◼   ► checkmarks next each one the we dread [TS]

00:51:53 ◼   ► yeah and my daughter wasn't into it I so [TS]

00:51:56 ◼   ► i've i've been trying I feel the same [TS]

00:51:58 ◼   ► obligation because you know between my [TS]

00:52:00 ◼   ► mom and me right she's just close enough [TS]

00:52:02 ◼   ► to the generation of my dad obviously [TS]

00:52:04 ◼   ► was for all intensive purposes of [TS]

00:52:06 ◼   ► Victorian where that was the only [TS]

00:52:09 ◼   ► entertainment you had was reading [TS]

00:52:11 ◼   ► registered kipling and Grimm's fairy [TS]

00:52:14 ◼   ► tales huh [TS]

00:52:16 ◼   ► because it was still plausible day hey [TS]

00:52:19 ◼   ► that nobody knew how the nobody knew how [TS]

00:52:23 ◼   ► their run our Scottish scales but also [TS]

00:52:26 ◼   ► that a that there were still women who [TS]

00:52:29 ◼   ► would make you into a cake and like it [TS]

00:52:32 ◼   ► just in your neighborhood and so so i've [TS]

00:52:35 ◼   ► been i've started to read some of that [TS]

00:52:38 ◼   ► stuff to my daughter and the other day I [TS]

00:52:41 ◼   ► read her i mean i was explaining like [TS]

00:52:43 ◼   ► the boy who cried wolf and very quickly [TS]

00:52:46 ◼   ► she became known as The Girl Who Cried [TS]

00:52:49 ◼   ► al because there is a we have had a real [TS]

00:52:53 ◼   ► escalation lately in the word how oh all [TS]

00:52:58 ◼   ► we went through this where it's not [TS]

00:53:00 ◼   ► exactly a fake injury but it's more like [TS]

00:53:02 ◼   ► the reaction proceed the actual feeling [TS]

00:53:04 ◼   ► yeah somebody pulls out a hairbrush and [TS]

00:53:07 ◼   ► she's like oh falls to the floor you [TS]

00:53:10 ◼   ► know [TS]

00:53:10 ◼   ► and it's like are you being the girl who [TS]

00:53:12 ◼   ► cried out and and her eyes light up [TS]

00:53:15 ◼   ► because she understands the boy who [TS]

00:53:18 ◼   ► cried wolf [TS]

00:53:18 ◼   ► she got that and now she realizes you [TS]

00:53:21 ◼   ► know we have to we've changed it we've [TS]

00:53:23 ◼   ► it's a that now it's a metaphor and [TS]

00:53:25 ◼   ► she's the she's the girl cried out and [TS]

00:53:28 ◼   ► it's I've actually found it to be very [TS]

00:53:30 ◼   ► effective in defusing these like our [TS]

00:53:34 ◼   ► storms [TS]

00:53:35 ◼   ► yeah sure I'd makes a lot of sense i've [TS]

00:53:37 ◼   ► heard people say similar things to end [TS]

00:53:39 ◼   ► up in a contemporary context with the [TS]

00:53:40 ◼   ► the movie inside out [TS]

00:53:42 ◼   ► I think it's probably very frequently [TS]

00:53:43 ◼   ► exaggerated that's ok but now I know [TS]

00:53:45 ◼   ► exactly what you mean when you have a [TS]

00:53:46 ◼   ► way to see like that's the beauty of a [TS]

00:53:47 ◼   ► fable you know Scorpion and the Frog [TS]

00:53:49 ◼   ► it's like one of the greatest stories of [TS]

00:53:51 ◼   ► all time [TS]

00:53:51 ◼   ► nothing describes the situation better [TS]

00:53:53 ◼   ► than the Scorpion and the Frog of the [TS]

00:53:54 ◼   ► Scorpion and the Frog what that would [TS]

00:53:56 ◼   ► have won a mismatched pair you remember [TS]

00:53:58 ◼   ► that story I have no idea i I thought [TS]

00:54:00 ◼   ► you were making it up there's a real [TS]

00:54:02 ◼   ► Scorpion and the Frog story always the [TS]

00:54:04 ◼   ► Scorpion rides the Frog make it as quick [TS]

00:54:06 ◼   ► as I can the Scorpion says hey look i [TS]

00:54:08 ◼   ► need to get across the river and won't [TS]

00:54:10 ◼   ► sting you [TS]

00:54:10 ◼   ► but yeah it's so just give me a ride on [TS]

00:54:12 ◼   ► your back the Foxes look if I put you on [TS]

00:54:13 ◼   ► my back you know going to sting me [TS]

00:54:16 ◼   ► yeah but flash forward to get halfway [TS]

00:54:18 ◼   ► through the scorpion stings the Frog [TS]

00:54:20 ◼   ► yeah they're gonna dice which do you [TS]

00:54:22 ◼   ► said you were going to me said what you [TS]

00:54:23 ◼   ► would expect from a scorpion [TS]

00:54:24 ◼   ► yeah I always i think in Alaska that was [TS]

00:54:26 ◼   ► a that was the moose in the peregrine [TS]

00:54:30 ◼   ► falcon or something we had a rather than [TS]

00:54:31 ◼   ► we didn't have scorpions or frogs it [TS]

00:54:33 ◼   ► didn't make any sense to have seen [TS]

00:54:34 ◼   ► little exotic yeah I was something was [TS]

00:54:36 ◼   ► something more more normal like you know [TS]

00:54:38 ◼   ► the musk ox and the and the and the [TS]

00:54:41 ◼   ► wolverine what do you expect i'm a [TS]

00:54:43 ◼   ► Wolverine why did you tear me up [TS]

00:54:45 ◼   ► does she ask you to the she like when [TS]

00:54:47 ◼   ► she asked you to read something if [TS]

00:54:48 ◼   ► you're comfortable saying what kind of [TS]

00:54:49 ◼   ► stuff did she ask you to read this does [TS]

00:54:51 ◼   ► she like fables and fairytales [TS]

00:54:53 ◼   ► mm so we go to we buy most of our books [TS]

00:54:56 ◼   ► at the thrift store and so we go over to [TS]

00:54:59 ◼   ► the children's book area and she plopped [TS]

00:55:01 ◼   ► herself down and immediately starts [TS]

00:55:03 ◼   ► pulling out every book that has a huge [TS]

00:55:07 ◼   ► alien i guide your garbage princess and [TS]

00:55:12 ◼   ► she's like look it's Dora look it's bit [TS]

00:55:14 ◼   ► Cinderella look at you know all this [TS]

00:55:16 ◼   ► stuff again tonight and I referred or [TS]

00:55:18 ◼   ► simply as the yelling show ya the [TS]

00:55:20 ◼   ► yelling show i care is a girl with a [TS]

00:55:22 ◼   ► wedge haircut that's going to yell at [TS]

00:55:23 ◼   ► you and then [TS]

00:55:24 ◼   ► stare at you wait my hand some much and [TS]

00:55:28 ◼   ► she pulls this stuff out of the out of [TS]

00:55:31 ◼   ► the shows because it's exotic to write [TS]

00:55:33 ◼   ► this isn't stuff that she's allowed to [TS]

00:55:34 ◼   ► have so she's just like oh my God look [TS]

00:55:36 ◼   ► at this it's so amazing it's like a it's [TS]

00:55:39 ◼   ► like a comic book where Barbie talks [TS]

00:55:41 ◼   ► about products that you can buy you feel [TS]

00:55:43 ◼   ► like you really feel sometimes like [TS]

00:55:44 ◼   ► you're buying an ad [TS]

00:55:46 ◼   ► yeah looks like you're basically [TS]

00:55:47 ◼   ► purchasing a pamphlet that's an add [TS]

00:55:49 ◼   ► those Barbie books where it's like oh I [TS]

00:55:51 ◼   ► didn't know what to do about a computer [TS]

00:55:54 ◼   ► so then came and and I was busy [TS]

00:55:57 ◼   ► repairing my broken fingernail walk-in [TS]

00:55:59 ◼   ► solve my problems like I would rather [TS]

00:56:02 ◼   ► put her in isolation tank and play her [TS]

00:56:05 ◼   ► the first episode of lost that i would [TS]

00:56:07 ◼   ► buy any one of these garbage books [TS]

00:56:09 ◼   ► social but she's down on the floor [TS]

00:56:11 ◼   ► pulling this stuff out and just just [TS]

00:56:14 ◼   ► like like a like she's been lost in the [TS]

00:56:17 ◼   ► desert her whole life and someone's [TS]

00:56:19 ◼   ► given her a glass of cold water like [TS]

00:56:22 ◼   ► she's just she's consuming this as fast [TS]

00:56:24 ◼   ► as she can because she knows that it's [TS]

00:56:26 ◼   ► not going to last and I'm up still in [TS]

00:56:30 ◼   ► the children's book section thumbing [TS]

00:56:31 ◼   ► through them looking for titles I [TS]

00:56:33 ◼   ► recognized from my own childhood so I'm [TS]

00:56:36 ◼   ► like oh look here you know [TS]

00:56:38 ◼   ► look here marlo it's the book about [TS]

00:56:39 ◼   ► you're not my mother where the little [TS]

00:56:41 ◼   ► bird loses its mother and decides that [TS]

00:56:43 ◼   ► maybe a steam steam tractor which by [TS]

00:56:48 ◼   ► this drawing we can clearly tell that [TS]

00:56:50 ◼   ► this book was was made in 1940 and I and [TS]

00:56:54 ◼   ► it was already an anachronism when i was [TS]

00:56:56 ◼   ► reading it like look at this and I show [TS]

00:56:58 ◼   ► it to her she's just like no princesses [TS]

00:57:02 ◼   ► there's nothing fun about this book at [TS]

00:57:04 ◼   ► somebody's know it has no as they see [TS]

00:57:05 ◼   ► with automobiles has no curb appeal [TS]

00:57:07 ◼   ► there's no curb appeal but which book [TS]

00:57:09 ◼   ► goes into the shopping cart daddy's book [TS]

00:57:12 ◼   ► about i mean i bought a book about a [TS]

00:57:14 ◼   ► book for her the other day which is a [TS]

00:57:16 ◼   ► comic I mean it's a cartoon book but [TS]

00:57:19 ◼   ► it's a story of a little girl whose [TS]

00:57:23 ◼   ► whose rabbi in Poland gives his ticket [TS]

00:57:29 ◼   ► to her to put her on the boat to go to [TS]

00:57:31 ◼   ► America [TS]

00:57:32 ◼   ► and she goes to America and works the [TS]

00:57:35 ◼   ► seamstress in order to save up enough [TS]

00:57:38 ◼   ► money to buy a ticket for her aging [TS]

00:57:41 ◼   ► grandmother who is still living in [TS]

00:57:43 ◼   ► Poland and it was like milking a horse [TS]

00:57:46 ◼   ► look at that survived this is right up [TS]

00:57:50 ◼   ► your alley and i'm reading this story to [TS]

00:57:52 ◼   ► her and like tears are streaming down my [TS]

00:57:55 ◼   ► cheeks because a beautiful book [TS]

00:57:57 ◼   ► yeah and it's the story of America sure [TS]

00:57:59 ◼   ► and the you know the illustrations are [TS]

00:58:01 ◼   ► good but its limits Barry it's touching [TS]

00:58:03 ◼   ► and checking his and she loves the book [TS]

00:58:07 ◼   ► now because you know it's a book that [TS]

00:58:09 ◼   ► everytime daddy reads that he starts [TS]

00:58:11 ◼   ► crying about the about the great you [TS]

00:58:14 ◼   ► know the Diaspora but there's not you [TS]

00:58:18 ◼   ► know there's no there obviously no magic [TS]

00:58:20 ◼   ► in it no princess not a lot of pink and [TS]

00:58:22 ◼   ► purple [TS]

00:58:22 ◼   ► no well there's you know the princess is [TS]

00:58:24 ◼   ► basically in a lower east side sweatshop [TS]

00:58:26 ◼   ► sewing wedding dresses in order to get [TS]

00:58:30 ◼   ► get the 40 shekels to go buy a trip on [TS]

00:58:35 ◼   ► the Lusitania for grandmother so she [TS]

00:58:37 ◼   ► doesn't have to drink horses milking [TS]

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