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317: You Broke Your Little Ships

 

00:00:00 ◼   ► the Intolerable number 377 temperature [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/0">TS</a>]

00:00:22 ◼   ► welcome back everybody to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/22">TS</a>]

00:00:24 ◼   ► uncomfortable on September ate it is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/24">TS</a>]

00:00:27 ◼   ► 50th anniversary of Star Trek and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/27">TS</a>]

00:00:29 ◼   ► didn't want to let that go by without us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/29">TS</a>]

00:00:31 ◼   ► doing an episode about a star trek [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/31">TS</a>]

00:00:32 ◼   ► subject we covered a lot of star trek [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/32">TS</a>]

00:00:34 ◼   ► over the years on the incomparable i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/34">TS</a>]

00:00:36 ◼   ► picked a movie to to talk about that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/36">TS</a>]

00:00:39 ◼   ► one of my favorite Star Trek movies and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/39">TS</a>]

00:00:41 ◼   ► we had an episode about it yet so we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/41">TS</a>]

00:00:43 ◼   ► gonna do it now it is 1996 is star trek [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/43">TS</a>]

00:00:46 ◼   ► first contact for as i keep explaining [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/46">TS</a>]

00:00:49 ◼   ► to everybody who asked me which one that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/49">TS</a>]

00:00:52 ◼   ► is the Borg warden joining me to talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/52">TS</a>]

00:00:55 ◼   ► about the board one is a a a pact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/55">TS</a>]

00:00:59 ◼   ► all-star panel of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/59">TS</a>]

00:01:01 ◼   ► dan morgan hello the line must be drawn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/61">TS</a>]

00:01:03 ◼   ► here Jason know somebody had to say that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/63">TS</a>]

00:01:06 ◼   ► I you your first regatta was back of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/66">TS</a>]

00:01:08 ◼   ► course we like to have her around when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/68">TS</a>]

00:01:10 ◼   ► we talk star trek fire phasers alright [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/70">TS</a>]

00:01:13 ◼   ► David Laura hello [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/73">TS</a>]

00:01:15 ◼   ► the line must be drawn yeah you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/75">TS</a>]

00:01:17 ◼   ► do it with didn't we already did that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/77">TS</a>]

00:01:20 ◼   ► Joe rosenstiel is here yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/80">TS</a>]

00:01:23 ◼   ► yes this far no further as many thank [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/83">TS</a>]

00:01:26 ◼   ► you Scott McNulty proprietor of random [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/86">TS</a>]

00:01:28 ◼   ► tracking another Star Trek fan that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/88">TS</a>]

00:01:31 ◼   ► like to have on these high it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/91">TS</a>]

00:01:33 ◼   ► we're on some kind of star trek mm your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/93">TS</a>]

00:01:37 ◼   ► astronauts on a Star Trek of some sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/97">TS</a>]

00:01:39 ◼   ► and he has never been on the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/99">TS</a>]

00:01:41 ◼   ► uncomfortable for buddy was on random [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/101">TS</a>]

00:01:43 ◼   ► track and I'm very happy to have him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/103">TS</a>]

00:01:44 ◼   ► with us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/104">TS</a>]

00:01:44 ◼   ► it's jamehl Bowie hello hello I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/104">TS</a>]

00:01:47 ◼   ► have a quotation from the movie but that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/107">TS</a>]

00:01:51 ◼   ► makes you better than all of us it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/111">TS</a>]

00:01:52 ◼   ► about that Adam Adam Scott on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/112">TS</a>]

00:01:55 ◼   ► defiant being like they're hailing us or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/115">TS</a>]

00:01:57 ◼   ► whatever it's taking a nice I relief [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/117">TS</a>]

00:02:01 ◼   ► when his bosses they don't have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/121">TS</a>]

00:02:02 ◼   ► commit suicide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/122">TS</a>]

00:02:04 ◼   ► yeah that's right well when wharf is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/124">TS</a>]

00:02:06 ◼   ► your captain you gotta wonder if it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/126">TS</a>]

00:02:08 ◼   ► good day to die [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/128">TS</a>]

00:02:09 ◼   ► includes you right it's a hard posting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/129">TS</a>]

00:02:12 ◼   ► working for Worf guys alright so first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/132">TS</a>]

00:02:15 ◼   ► contact written by run more brand braga [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/135">TS</a>]

00:02:18 ◼   ► from Star Trek writers on Star Trek next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/138">TS</a>]

00:02:21 ◼   ► generation in the following series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/141">TS</a>]

00:02:22 ◼   ► directed by Jonathan Frakes TVs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/142">TS</a>]

00:02:24 ◼   ► commander Riker himself and obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/144">TS</a>]

00:02:27 ◼   ► the next generation cast with a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/147">TS</a>]

00:02:29 ◼   ► guest stars Alfre Woodard is Lily James [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/149">TS</a>]

00:02:33 ◼   ► Cromwell is Ephraim Cochran a character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/153">TS</a>]

00:02:35 ◼   ► from the original series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/155">TS</a>]

00:02:36 ◼   ► Reese who in a weird episode of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/156">TS</a>]

00:02:39 ◼   ► original series where he falls in love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/159">TS</a>]

00:02:41 ◼   ► with a cloud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/161">TS</a>]

00:02:42 ◼   ► anyway we've all been there Jason and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/162">TS</a>]

00:02:44 ◼   ► Alice Krieger is the board queen so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/164">TS</a>]

00:02:47 ◼   ► three great i think guest stars in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/167">TS</a>]

00:02:50 ◼   ► one to get stories of a movie can have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/170">TS</a>]

00:02:52 ◼   ► guest stars but it's a based on the TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/172">TS</a>]

00:02:54 ◼   ► show so i guess it can I thought maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/174">TS</a>]

00:02:56 ◼   ► we break the moving down to start into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/176">TS</a>]

00:02:59 ◼   ► the three different threads that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/179">TS</a>]

00:03:03 ◼   ► this movie goes in because this movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/183">TS</a>]

00:03:04 ◼   ► really does break into three plot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/184">TS</a>]

00:03:06 ◼   ► threads of it fairly quickly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/186">TS</a>]

00:03:08 ◼   ► the movie starts with a Borg attack well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/188">TS</a>]

00:03:10 ◼   ► I guess it really starts with Picard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/190">TS</a>]

00:03:11 ◼   ► dreaming about about dreaming about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/191">TS</a>]

00:03:14 ◼   ► being assimilated by the Borg and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/194">TS</a>]

00:03:16 ◼   ► he wakes up but it's still a dream but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/196">TS</a>]

00:03:19 ◼   ► then he wakes up again and gets a called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/199">TS</a>]

00:03:20 ◼   ► the border attacking and and that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/200">TS</a>]

00:03:24 ◼   ► sets Picard off on his journey because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/204">TS</a>]

00:03:26 ◼   ► they basically say no no don't come we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/206">TS</a>]

00:03:29 ◼   ► don't want you don't like we don't trust [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/209">TS</a>]

00:03:31 ◼   ► you because you were compromised when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/211">TS</a>]

00:03:34 ◼   ► you were assimilated by the Borg but of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/214">TS</a>]

00:03:37 ◼   ► course Picard disregards orders he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/217">TS</a>]

00:03:39 ◼   ► rushes in he saves the day because his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/219">TS</a>]

00:03:41 ◼   ► knowledge of the board actually helps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/221">TS</a>]

00:03:43 ◼   ► them blow up the board ship but uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/223">TS</a>]

00:03:45 ◼   ► little sphere emerges from the board [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/225">TS</a>]

00:03:48 ◼   ► ship and goes back in time to assimilate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/228">TS</a>]

00:03:50 ◼   ► earth in the past and that's your that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/230">TS</a>]

00:03:54 ◼   ► where the story begins to pick up war [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/234">TS</a>]

00:03:55 ◼   ► from the damage defiant because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/235">TS</a>]

00:03:57 ◼   ► contractually war should be in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/237">TS</a>]

00:03:59 ◼   ► movies but this on the Space nine so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/239">TS</a>]

00:04:01 ◼   ► they gotta work that out and so they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/241">TS</a>]

00:04:04 ◼   ► like yeah but defined it'sit's good nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/244">TS</a>]

00:04:06 ◼   ► little ship little-little and we're back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/246">TS</a>]

00:04:10 ◼   ► in the past and it's a it's a it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/250">TS</a>]

00:04:12 ◼   ► like a day before the first launch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/252">TS</a>]

00:04:15 ◼   ► the reception Cochran's warp ship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/255">TS</a>]

00:04:17 ◼   ► meeting the aliens who are not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/257">TS</a>]

00:04:20 ◼   ► identified until the last scene for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/260">TS</a>]

00:04:22 ◼   ► first contact contact experience and at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/262">TS</a>]

00:04:25 ◼   ► that point the the movie breaks into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/265">TS</a>]

00:04:27 ◼   ► three we have the card we have data [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/267">TS</a>]

00:04:29 ◼   ► talking to the board queen and we've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/269">TS</a>]

00:04:32 ◼   ► the stuff that happens on earth where is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/272">TS</a>]

00:04:34 ◼   ► that from Cochran is dealing with some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/274">TS</a>]

00:04:37 ◼   ► members of the crew and the weight of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/277">TS</a>]

00:04:39 ◼   ► history [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/279">TS</a>]

00:04:40 ◼   ► the one thing that that's interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/280">TS</a>]

00:04:41 ◼   ► about this that sets it apart from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/281">TS</a>]

00:04:43 ◼   ► pretty much all the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/283">TS</a>]

00:04:44 ◼   ► next-generation movies at least is if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/284">TS</a>]

00:04:46 ◼   ► this were an episode of the show would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/286">TS</a>]

00:04:47 ◼   ► be a mythology episode right because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/287">TS</a>]

00:04:49 ◼   ► connects [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/289">TS</a>]

00:04:49 ◼   ► to a very discreet portion of the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/289">TS</a>]

00:04:52 ◼   ► and in some ways it's amazing that this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/292">TS</a>]

00:04:54 ◼   ► works because it seems like a hard sell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/294">TS</a>]

00:04:57 ◼   ► right that you have staff to have seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/297">TS</a>]

00:04:58 ◼   ► these you know basically these two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/298">TS</a>]

00:05:00 ◼   ► particular episodes of a seven-year-long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/300">TS</a>]

00:05:02 ◼   ► show in order to sort of get it and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/302">TS</a>]

00:05:04 ◼   ► started you know they give you that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/304">TS</a>]

00:05:05 ◼   ► little flashback at the beginning and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/305">TS</a>]

00:05:07 ◼   ► you know it sprinkled throughout here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/307">TS</a>]

00:05:08 ◼   ► and there but you know you compare that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/308">TS</a>]

00:05:10 ◼   ► to something like insurrection or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/310">TS</a>]

00:05:11 ◼   ► nemesis or even generations in which all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/311">TS</a>]

00:05:14 ◼   ► you really have to know was like okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/314">TS</a>]

00:05:15 ◼   ► captain kirk's a guy right like I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/315">TS</a>]

00:05:17 ◼   ► that is I mean the closest the closest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/317">TS</a>]

00:05:20 ◼   ► parallel is really probably to wrath of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/320">TS</a>]

00:05:22 ◼   ► khan right which was also sort of a call [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/322">TS</a>]

00:05:24 ◼   ► back to an episode of the show and to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/324">TS</a>]

00:05:27 ◼   ► that it's impressive that they got a not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/327">TS</a>]

00:05:29 ◼   ► only is a mythology you know movie is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/329">TS</a>]

00:05:32 ◼   ► made but it is unquestionably the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/332">TS</a>]

00:05:35 ◼   ► successful and the best of these for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/335">TS</a>]

00:05:37 ◼   ► next generation will be so yeah it's one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/337">TS</a>]

00:05:39 ◼   ► of the things i love about this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/339">TS</a>]

00:05:41 ◼   ► economy with which it it starts the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/341">TS</a>]

00:05:43 ◼   ► story and then just motors through it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/343">TS</a>]

00:05:45 ◼   ► and the balance between those those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/345">TS</a>]

00:05:47 ◼   ► various threads your ear never sitting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/347">TS</a>]

00:05:51 ◼   ► there going what's going to happen next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/351">TS</a>]

00:05:53 ◼   ► when is the next scene [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/353">TS</a>]

00:05:55 ◼   ► it just keeps moving and you know for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/355">TS</a>]

00:05:58 ◼   ► all the jokes about tvs Riker he does a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/358">TS</a>]

00:06:00 ◼   ► nice job driving that yes and keeping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/360">TS</a>]

00:06:03 ◼   ► all the balls in the air i just i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/363">TS</a>]

00:06:05 ◼   ► remember sitting in the theater going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/365">TS</a>]

00:06:07 ◼   ► this shouldn't be working like this this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/367">TS</a>]

00:06:09 ◼   ► is great because i was disappointed by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/369">TS</a>]

00:06:11 ◼   ► generations and so it was like wow they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/371">TS</a>]

00:06:14 ◼   ► got it right and they never got it right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/374">TS</a>]

00:06:16 ◼   ► again but oh I think something i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/376">TS</a>]

00:06:20 ◼   ► say is you want to watch star trek [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/380">TS</a>]

00:06:21 ◼   ► beyond um I hated that movie i'm sorry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/381">TS</a>]

00:06:24 ◼   ► i've seen it twice I've given it a fair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/384">TS</a>]

00:06:25 ◼   ► shot an action movie in space in what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/385">TS</a>]

00:06:28 ◼   ► really stands out to me when you go back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/388">TS</a>]

00:06:30 ◼   ► and watch first contact is i think most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/390">TS</a>]

00:06:33 ◼   ► people would agree it's one more action [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/393">TS</a>]

00:06:35 ◼   ► e star trek movies with the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/395">TS</a>]

00:06:37 ◼   ► generation cast but what makes it work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/397">TS</a>]

00:06:40 ◼   ► so much better than I think the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/400">TS</a>]

00:06:43 ◼   ► reboot is managed to do is the Cuban [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/403">TS</a>]

00:06:46 ◼   ► moments like the moment with lily and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/406">TS</a>]

00:06:48 ◼   ► card are really intense and really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/408">TS</a>]

00:06:51 ◼   ► awesome indie feel that like when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/411">TS</a>]

00:06:53 ◼   ► know Picard chooses to kill instant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/413">TS</a>]

00:06:56 ◼   ► Lynch like you feel that I when the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/416">TS</a>]

00:06:58 ◼   ► turns to the board when Hawk turns into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/418">TS</a>]

00:07:00 ◼   ► a board like you feel that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/420">TS</a>]

00:07:02 ◼   ► and I just think there's a man acting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/422">TS</a>]

00:07:04 ◼   ► substance in this film that just doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/424">TS</a>]

00:07:07 ◼   ► exist in the more recent Star Trek movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/427">TS</a>]

00:07:09 ◼   ► yeah they're they're allowed to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/429">TS</a>]

00:07:11 ◼   ► depth though and and they've earned that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/431">TS</a>]

00:07:13 ◼   ► depth whereas we're just told oh this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/433">TS</a>]

00:07:16 ◼   ► kirk and spock and you know they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/436">TS</a>]

00:07:18 ◼   ► great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/438">TS</a>]

00:07:18 ◼   ► well that's I mean once again the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/438">TS</a>]

00:07:20 ◼   ► generation movies have seven years of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/440">TS</a>]

00:07:22 ◼   ► the next generation get build-up and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/442">TS</a>]

00:07:24 ◼   ► characters whereas the reboots have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/444">TS</a>]

00:07:26 ◼   ► movies that you've seen plus you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/446">TS</a>]

00:07:28 ◼   ► you're here for your recollections of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/448">TS</a>]

00:07:30 ◼   ► previous actors doing different versions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/450">TS</a>]

00:07:32 ◼   ► of the same characters so it's in many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/452">TS</a>]

00:07:34 ◼   ► ways even more of a challenge to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/454">TS</a>]

00:07:35 ◼   ► that right i mean with be with first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/455">TS</a>]

00:07:39 ◼   ► contact think you have a situation where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/459">TS</a>]

00:07:41 ◼   ► all of the the principals involved have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/461">TS</a>]

00:07:44 ◼   ► kind of Dave they know their characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/464">TS</a>]

00:07:46 ◼   ► like the back of their hands at this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/466">TS</a>]

00:07:47 ◼   ► point they they know you know Patrick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/467">TS</a>]

00:07:51 ◼   ► Stewart knows who Picard is in the very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/471">TS</a>]

00:07:53 ◼   ► intimate way and when you add that to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/473">TS</a>]

00:07:57 ◼   ► screenplay that really is designed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/477">TS</a>]

00:07:59 ◼   ► cut up needle down to the courts of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/479">TS</a>]

00:08:01 ◼   ► these characters he do get something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/481">TS</a>]

00:08:04 ◼   ► that you know the best way I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/484">TS</a>]

00:08:06 ◼   ► describe it as sort of like a a clean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/486">TS</a>]

00:08:08 ◼   ► palette cleanser right that like this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/488">TS</a>]

00:08:11 ◼   ► these are this is a the same way that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/491">TS</a>]

00:08:15 ◼   ► wrath of khan got you the essence of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/495">TS</a>]

00:08:17 ◼   ► original series characters is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/497">TS</a>]

00:08:19 ◼   ► essence of all of these next-generation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/499">TS</a>]

00:08:22 ◼   ► characters and in the the subsequent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/502">TS</a>]

00:08:24 ◼   ► films i think lose quite a bit of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/504">TS</a>]

00:08:26 ◼   ► and then attempt to kind of make them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/506">TS</a>]

00:08:28 ◼   ► more conventional but here here it is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/508">TS</a>]

00:08:33 ◼   ► very much a parent I would also add as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/513">TS</a>]

00:08:35 ◼   ► parenthetical that I really enjoy Star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/515">TS</a>]

00:08:37 ◼   ► Trek beyond we can have the camera i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/517">TS</a>]

00:08:40 ◼   ► really enjoyed it too but that's a whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/520">TS</a>]

00:08:42 ◼   ► other move but oh well there's also a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/522">TS</a>]

00:08:46 ◼   ► surprising amount of had for lack of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/526">TS</a>]

00:08:47 ◼   ► better term fanservice in this movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/527">TS</a>]

00:08:49 ◼   ► which is that minor characters from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/529">TS</a>]

00:08:51 ◼   ► show up here like Barkley appearing lady [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/531">TS</a>]

00:08:54 ◼   ► now nurse Ogawa appears if it seem like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/534">TS</a>]

00:08:57 ◼   ► very briefly I don't just like that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/537">TS</a>]

00:08:59 ◼   ► know they make sure that almost all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/539">TS</a>]

00:09:01 ◼   ► those like little recurring characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/541">TS</a>]

00:09:02 ◼   ► get a moment or something even if we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/542">TS</a>]

00:09:04 ◼   ► have new character certain as well as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/544">TS</a>]

00:09:06 ◼   ► you can have the emergency medical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/546">TS</a>]

00:09:08 ◼   ► hologram yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/548">TS</a>]

00:09:09 ◼   ► to avoid your movie yeah and nurse Ogawa [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/549">TS</a>]

00:09:13 ◼   ► gets to you almost as much as dr. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/553">TS</a>]

00:09:15 ◼   ► crusher gets to do in this movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/555">TS</a>]

00:09:16 ◼   ► yeah that's true dr. crusher at least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/556">TS</a>]

00:09:18 ◼   ► try get to get drunk and and one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/558">TS</a>]

00:09:21 ◼   ► earliest times i saw this i mean is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/561">TS</a>]

00:09:24 ◼   ► probably the third or fourth time I saw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/564">TS</a>]

00:09:25 ◼   ► I saw it with someone who had never seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/565">TS</a>]

00:09:27 ◼   ► next generation but they were just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/567">TS</a>]

00:09:29 ◼   ► curious because they heard all about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/569">TS</a>]

00:09:31 ◼   ► snow the board the board and so they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/571">TS</a>]

00:09:33 ◼   ► didn't have any of the best of both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/573">TS</a>]

00:09:35 ◼   ► worlds they didn't have any of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/575">TS</a>]

00:09:36 ◼   ► knowledge of Picard's history with them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/576">TS</a>]

00:09:38 ◼   ► and they loved it and were able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/578">TS</a>]

00:09:42 ◼   ► follow it from just from what was in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/582">TS</a>]

00:09:44 ◼   ► movie and at the end asked me did they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/584">TS</a>]

00:09:47 ◼   ► actually do an episode about that said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/587">TS</a>]

00:09:49 ◼   ► oh oh you have no idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/589">TS</a>]

00:09:51 ◼   ► yes they did many it's a remarkably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/591">TS</a>]

00:09:53 ◼   ► efficient screenplay and I say that when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/593">TS</a>]

00:09:55 ◼   ► we talk about Star Trek beyond what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/595">TS</a>]

00:09:58 ◼   ► said about it was that it falls into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/598">TS</a>]

00:10:00 ◼   ► trap of having only enough parts to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/600">TS</a>]

00:10:02 ◼   ► what it needs to do and we again that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/602">TS</a>]

00:10:04 ◼   ► a different podcasts that this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/604">TS</a>]

00:10:05 ◼   ► efficient in a different way this is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/605">TS</a>]

00:10:07 ◼   ► efficient in that while it's doing these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/607">TS</a>]

00:10:09 ◼   ► bits of fanservice it's doing them in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/609">TS</a>]

00:10:11 ◼   ► ways where it's exactly what you need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/611">TS</a>]

00:10:14 ◼   ► and nothing more so like the emergency [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/614">TS</a>]

00:10:15 ◼   ► medical hologram [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/615">TS</a>]

00:10:17 ◼   ► it's a good joke and everybody who seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/617">TS</a>]

00:10:19 ◼   ► voyagers like hey it's the EMH but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/619">TS</a>]

00:10:22 ◼   ► also just a good joke it's a delaying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/622">TS</a>]

00:10:24 ◼   ► tactic for crusher [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/624">TS</a>]

00:10:25 ◼   ► it's a perfect use of the character it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/625">TS</a>]

00:10:26 ◼   ► doesn't linger on it nurse Ogawa is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/626">TS</a>]

00:10:29 ◼   ► present and she does everything Barkley [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/629">TS</a>]

00:10:30 ◼   ► is used in that one scene at a moment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/630">TS</a>]

00:10:34 ◼   ► that will get to in a little bit that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/634">TS</a>]

00:10:36 ◼   ► very important when you're talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/636">TS</a>]

00:10:37 ◼   ► characters and about the journey that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/637">TS</a>]

00:10:40 ◼   ► Cromwell has to take is that from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/640">TS</a>]

00:10:41 ◼   ► Cochran and then that's it we know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/641">TS</a>]

00:10:43 ◼   ► that's all we needed him for but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/643">TS</a>]

00:10:45 ◼   ► kind of a pivotal scene and he's he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/645">TS</a>]

00:10:47 ◼   ► the right character to use in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/647">TS</a>]

00:10:49 ◼   ► situation and throughout this movie i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/649">TS</a>]

00:10:51 ◼   ► think i can point it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/651">TS</a>]

00:10:52 ◼   ► other examples of some restraint of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/652">TS</a>]

00:10:55 ◼   ► they use they know where all the tools [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/655">TS</a>]

00:10:56 ◼   ► are but they use them with restraint and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/656">TS</a>]

00:10:58 ◼   ► they get them to do exactly what they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/658">TS</a>]

00:10:59 ◼   ► need and then that's it and then that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/659">TS</a>]

00:11:01 ◼   ► they don't get over you they move on to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/661">TS</a>]

00:11:03 ◼   ► the next thing so card [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/663">TS</a>]

00:11:05 ◼   ► let's let's dive into Picard a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/665">TS</a>]

00:11:06 ◼   ► bit more card you talk about the perils [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/666">TS</a>]

00:11:09 ◼   ► will start to we have moby-dick we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/669">TS</a>]

00:11:12 ◼   ► a character from an old star trek [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/672">TS</a>]

00:11:14 ◼   ► episode in different Cochran or if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/674">TS</a>]

00:11:16 ◼   ► want to go this way a direct sequel to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/676">TS</a>]

00:11:18 ◼   ► an old next generation episode in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/678">TS</a>]

00:11:20 ◼   ► case yes to both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/680">TS</a>]

00:11:21 ◼   ► world there's so much rolled into that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/681">TS</a>]

00:11:23 ◼   ► and and this is a story about the card [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/683">TS</a>]

00:11:26 ◼   ► having his baggage with the board and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/686">TS</a>]

00:11:29 ◼   ► end almost coming to accept that it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/689">TS</a>]

00:11:32 ◼   ► what it is and that he has to move past [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/692">TS</a>]

00:11:33 ◼   ► it because it does help him defeat the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/693">TS</a>]

00:11:35 ◼   ► board in the present day when they want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/695">TS</a>]

00:11:38 ◼   ► to like leave him on the outside but he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/698">TS</a>]

00:11:40 ◼   ► he has a vendetta against the Borg and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/700">TS</a>]

00:11:44 ◼   ► and we see that throughout his he's only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/704">TS</a>]

00:11:46 ◼   ► on earth for a short amount of time he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/706">TS</a>]

00:11:48 ◼   ► deems back to the ship and at that point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/708">TS</a>]

00:11:50 ◼   ► he's kind of an action hero but he is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/710">TS</a>]

00:11:52 ◼   ► not Captain Picard for a while because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/712">TS</a>]

00:11:55 ◼   ► he not only does he kill a instant Lynch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/715">TS</a>]

00:11:58 ◼   ► uh in in the holodeck and kind of silly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/718">TS</a>]

00:12:02 ◼   ► as appalled by that but he kills another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/722">TS</a>]

00:12:04 ◼   ► character very early on who's just been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/724">TS</a>]

00:12:06 ◼   ► assimilated by the Borg no attempt to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/726">TS</a>]

00:12:08 ◼   ► say that header me at all I mean he he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/728">TS</a>]

00:12:12 ◼   ► is from the get-go he basically says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/732">TS</a>]

00:12:14 ◼   ► just kill them you know they would thank [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/734">TS</a>]

00:12:17 ◼   ► you i know i would so we get to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/737">TS</a>]

00:12:19 ◼   ► Picard really kind of he's messed up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/739">TS</a>]

00:12:21 ◼   ► until he finally has that final scene [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/741">TS</a>]

00:12:23 ◼   ► with alfre woodard where she kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/743">TS</a>]

00:12:26 ◼   ► makes him snap out of it i think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/746">TS</a>]

00:12:27 ◼   ► really need all the action and suspense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/747">TS</a>]

00:12:29 ◼   ► and and things that were used to in a in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/749">TS</a>]

00:12:31 ◼   ► a movie like this it's a really good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/751">TS</a>]

00:12:33 ◼   ► journey for patrick stewart to do more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/753">TS</a>]

00:12:36 ◼   ► than you know what we saw in best of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/756">TS</a>]

00:12:38 ◼   ► both worlds basically while it's nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/758">TS</a>]

00:12:39 ◼   ► because so many of the episodes I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/759">TS</a>]

00:12:41 ◼   ► TNG was largely very episodic yea even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/761">TS</a>]

00:12:44 ◼   ► tho ye they didn't spend a ton of time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/764">TS</a>]

00:12:47 ◼   ► on Picard recovering from you know being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/767">TS</a>]

00:12:49 ◼   ► assimilated right like that doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/769">TS</a>]

00:12:51 ◼   ► really come up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/771">TS</a>]

00:12:52 ◼   ► yeah like one episode yeah which is i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/772">TS</a>]

00:12:54 ◼   ► love that is but with traditionally like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/774">TS</a>]

00:12:56 ◼   ► you know everything resets at the end of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/776">TS</a>]

00:12:58 ◼   ► the episodes right most of the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/778">TS</a>]

00:12:59 ◼   ► there is some white continuity from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/779">TS</a>]

00:13:01 ◼   ► episode to episode ensure if you look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/781">TS</a>]

00:13:03 ◼   ► over the course of seven seasons you see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/783">TS</a>]

00:13:05 ◼   ► these characters change in some ways but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/785">TS</a>]

00:13:07 ◼   ► a lot of it is you know reset at the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/787">TS</a>]

00:13:09 ◼   ► of the episode like watching an old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/789">TS</a>]

00:13:10 ◼   ► lady's cartoon and so you know having a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/790">TS</a>]

00:13:13 ◼   ► chance to sort of delve into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/793">TS</a>]

00:13:14 ◼   ► psychological thing that was an impact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/794">TS</a>]

00:13:16 ◼   ► of an earlier episode is what gives it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/796">TS</a>]

00:13:19 ◼   ► that richness that we don't really get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/799">TS</a>]

00:13:21 ◼   ► from a lot of the other ones i mean they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/801">TS</a>]

00:13:22 ◼   ► tried something like this insurrection [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/802">TS</a>]

00:13:23 ◼   ► you know it has a sort of an idea and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/803">TS</a>]

00:13:26 ◼   ► plot and you know there's there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/806">TS</a>]

00:13:28 ◼   ► message journals there but it's sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/808">TS</a>]

00:13:31 ◼   ► right it doesn't work it fails because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/811">TS</a>]

00:13:33 ◼   ► that's not really a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/813">TS</a>]

00:13:34 ◼   ► a question that we were interested in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/814">TS</a>]

00:13:36 ◼   ► seeing answered what I think really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/816">TS</a>]

00:13:38 ◼   ► shines about first contact is Picard and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/818">TS</a>]

00:13:42 ◼   ► I think it just shows how much more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/822">TS</a>]

00:13:45 ◼   ► talented actor he has been the shot the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/825">TS</a>]

00:13:48 ◼   ► shot has that one really good moment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/828">TS</a>]

00:13:50 ◼   ► when Spock ties but i think generally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/830">TS</a>]

00:13:52 ◼   ► speaking most people would agree it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/832">TS</a>]

00:13:54 ◼   ► just no contest and like we're telling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/834">TS</a>]

00:13:57 ◼   ► jokes on this podcast about the line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/837">TS</a>]

00:13:59 ◼   ► must be drawn here but like you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/839">TS</a>]

00:14:01 ◼   ► watch that scene in I also the home of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/841">TS</a>]

00:14:04 ◼   ► drainage in anger and desperation in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/844">TS</a>]

00:14:07 ◼   ► world just bubbling up in me and I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/847">TS</a>]

00:14:09 ◼   ► seen it a thousand times and it is i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/849">TS</a>]

00:14:12 ◼   ► mean it's acting and playing off of Lily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/852">TS</a>]

00:14:14 ◼   ► like she's perfectly cast here because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/854">TS</a>]

00:14:16 ◼   ► she she stands up to him and like that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/856">TS</a>]

00:14:19 ◼   ► not something we really see on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/859">TS</a>]

00:14:20 ◼   ► next-generation very much someone to can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/860">TS</a>]

00:14:22 ◼   ► go toe-to-toe with Picard and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/862">TS</a>]

00:14:24 ◼   ► it's you know it's not a mystery it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/864">TS</a>]

00:14:26 ◼   ► just incredible acting and what what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/866">TS</a>]

00:14:29 ◼   ► what's really amazing is you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/869">TS</a>]

00:14:31 ◼   ► they've used movie dick as an analogy in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/871">TS</a>]

00:14:34 ◼   ► the past but it's con con is the one who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/874">TS</a>]

00:14:37 ◼   ► is the Ahab figure and rice time it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/877">TS</a>]

00:14:41 ◼   ► the hero and and it's also not a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/881">TS</a>]

00:14:44 ◼   ► thing right that's the thing that kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/884">TS</a>]

00:14:45 ◼   ► of snaps out of it it's like oh and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/885">TS</a>]

00:14:50 ◼   ► know what that is such that is that such [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/890">TS</a>]

00:14:52 ◼   ► a brave thing to do with their hero and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/892">TS</a>]

00:14:54 ◼   ► but Stewart can handle it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/894">TS</a>]

00:14:56 ◼   ► obviously I will say though that in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/896">TS</a>]

00:14:59 ◼   ► short of going that route and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/899">TS</a>]

00:15:01 ◼   ► it's I've about i think it and thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/901">TS</a>]

00:15:03 ◼   ► it was very smart choice to sort of make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/903">TS</a>]

00:15:05 ◼   ► Picard our a hab that I think that this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/905">TS</a>]

00:15:10 ◼   ► movie i cannot paves the way for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/910">TS</a>]

00:15:15 ◼   ► explicitly action here any action hero [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/915">TS</a>]

00:15:18 ◼   ► ii recorded me and the subsequent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/918">TS</a>]

00:15:20 ◼   ► next-generation missed you think of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/920">TS</a>]

00:15:22 ◼   ► big misreading of a character I mean so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/922">TS</a>]

00:15:25 ◼   ► my least favorite part of first contact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/925">TS</a>]

00:15:26 ◼   ► is the holodeck seen part of this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/926">TS</a>]

00:15:30 ◼   ► gonna ask oh hey Talladega to concede [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/930">TS</a>]

00:15:32 ◼   ► that but sort of the Picard of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/932">TS</a>]

00:15:36 ◼   ► next-generation I don't think generally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/936">TS</a>]

00:15:39 ◼   ► would gun down you know someone with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/939">TS</a>]

00:15:44 ◼   ► Tommy gun in the middle of a holodeck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/944">TS</a>]

00:15:46 ◼   ► just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/946">TS</a>]

00:15:47 ◼   ► doesn't really that's like a wharf thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/947">TS</a>]

00:15:49 ◼   ► to do right thats really seem like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/949">TS</a>]

00:15:51 ◼   ► record that we know and even in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/951">TS</a>]

00:15:53 ◼   ► context of a story about his PTSD it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/953">TS</a>]

00:15:57 ◼   ► just doesn't really fit and I think I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/957">TS</a>]

00:16:00 ◼   ► think that's if there's like a flaw here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/960">TS</a>]

00:16:03 ◼   ► a fatal flaw but something that would I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/963">TS</a>]

00:16:05 ◼   ► think become a fatal form and emulator [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/965">TS</a>]

00:16:07 ◼   ► movies it's that like I Picard it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/967">TS</a>]

00:16:12 ◼   ► becomes her Patrick Stewart plays Picard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/972">TS</a>]

00:16:15 ◼   ► as an almost arrow Flemish character and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/975">TS</a>]

00:16:18 ◼   ► a way that i'm not quite sure I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/978">TS</a>]

00:16:22 ◼   ► fits they care for the that students [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/982">TS</a>]

00:16:25 ◼   ► actually established going into first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/985">TS</a>]

00:16:27 ◼   ► contact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/987">TS</a>]

00:16:28 ◼   ► well here you would argue that he's that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/988">TS</a>]

00:16:29 ◼   ► he's kinda messed up and that's why he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/989">TS</a>]

00:16:31 ◼   ► behaving this way the problem is if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/991">TS</a>]

00:16:32 ◼   ► somebody says oh that was cool let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/992">TS</a>]

00:16:34 ◼   ► have him do that again in the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/994">TS</a>]

00:16:35 ◼   ► couple of movies it's like no no youyou [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/995">TS</a>]

00:16:38 ◼   ► that then you really misread this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/998">TS</a>]

00:16:39 ◼   ► character because he was doing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/999">TS</a>]

00:16:41 ◼   ► because he was totally in a bad place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1001">TS</a>]

00:16:43 ◼   ► and needed to snap out of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1003">TS</a>]

00:16:45 ◼   ► this is not normal Captain Picard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1005">TS</a>]

00:16:47 ◼   ► because he would never do that it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1007">TS</a>]

00:16:49 ◼   ► also not a normal situation they're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1009">TS</a>]

00:16:51 ◼   ► just trying to fight the board they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1011">TS</a>]

00:16:52 ◼   ► trying to preserve the existence of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1012">TS</a>]

00:16:55 ◼   ► Federation there's desperation there too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1015">TS</a>]

00:16:57 ◼   ► I mean part of that is it you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1017">TS</a>]

00:16:58 ◼   ► Patrick Stewart had a read the original [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1018">TS</a>]

00:17:01 ◼   ► well an earlier draft of this and had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1021">TS</a>]

00:17:04 ◼   ► decided that he wanted to be up on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1024">TS</a>]

00:17:05 ◼   ► ship and be action here doing these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1025">TS</a>]

00:17:07 ◼   ► things and not down on the planet which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1027">TS</a>]

00:17:10 ◼   ► was the way it was originally written so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1030">TS</a>]

00:17:12 ◼   ► I think it's a very different movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1032">TS</a>]

00:17:15 ◼   ► having him up there eight works for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1035">TS</a>]

00:17:18 ◼   ► especially because he has lily as as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1038">TS</a>]

00:17:21 ◼   ► brianna the head said as a foil to work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1041">TS</a>]

00:17:25 ◼   ► off of and it also helps us is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1045">TS</a>]

00:17:26 ◼   ► audience to understand his mind in a way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1046">TS</a>]

00:17:28 ◼   ► that any gin insurrection doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1048">TS</a>]

00:17:31 ◼   ► accomplish and in a way that nothing in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1051">TS</a>]

00:17:34 ◼   ► nemesis accomplishes there's there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1054">TS</a>]

00:17:37 ◼   ► no the weather character to bounce off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1057">TS</a>]

00:17:39 ◼   ► of there really other than he has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1059">TS</a>]

00:17:41 ◼   ► couple of the sides to Troy about you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1061">TS</a>]

00:17:43 ◼   ► know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1063">TS</a>]

00:17:44 ◼   ► oh he understands me or whatever for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1064">TS</a>]

00:17:46 ◼   ► chins up but that this this really I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1066">TS</a>]

00:17:50 ◼   ► feel works quite well because she can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1070">TS</a>]

00:17:54 ◼   ► also extract all of the information from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1074">TS</a>]

00:17:57 ◼   ► card in a way that many of these other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1077">TS</a>]

00:18:00 ◼   ► doctors probably couldn't because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1080">TS</a>]

00:18:02 ◼   ► know they the the next generation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1082">TS</a>]

00:18:03 ◼   ► characters weren't really supposed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1083">TS</a>]

00:18:04 ◼   ► challenge one another like this so it it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1084">TS</a>]

00:18:08 ◼   ► works well to have her there to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1088">TS</a>]

00:18:10 ◼   ► challenge him off in that aspect in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1090">TS</a>]

00:18:12 ◼   ► something that we don't see you again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1092">TS</a>]

00:18:13 ◼   ► repeated in in the following films isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1093">TS</a>]

00:18:17 ◼   ► a great moment we're on the bridge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1097">TS</a>]

00:18:18 ◼   ► Picard basically insult he dresses down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1098">TS</a>]

00:18:20 ◼   ► Worf he basically says go sacrifice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1100">TS</a>]

00:18:22 ◼   ► yourself and and goes into random just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1102">TS</a>]

00:18:25 ◼   ► walks into the ready room and offer a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1105">TS</a>]

00:18:27 ◼   ► water just looks around and she's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1107">TS</a>]

00:18:29 ◼   ► what the hell are you people doing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1109">TS</a>]

00:18:32 ◼   ► they're like oh while he's the captain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1112">TS</a>]

00:18:33 ◼   ► we're going to follow his orders which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1113">TS</a>]

00:18:34 ◼   ► of course is admirable and it and it's I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1114">TS</a>]

00:18:36 ◼   ► think maybe a little too on the nose but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1116">TS</a>]

00:18:38 ◼   ► I like that she says to him like maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1118">TS</a>]

00:18:42 ◼   ► they never got stupid orders like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1122">TS</a>]

00:18:45 ◼   ► before whatever she says like to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1125">TS</a>]

00:18:46 ◼   ► that of course their loyalty is good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1126">TS</a>]

00:18:48 ◼   ► normally but you're behaving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1128">TS</a>]

00:18:50 ◼   ► irrationally but I just like that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1130">TS</a>]

00:18:51 ◼   ► because she's not a member of the crew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1131">TS</a>]

00:18:53 ◼   ► in column on it and that that is and she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1133">TS</a>]

00:18:56 ◼   ► storms in there and then we get that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1136">TS</a>]

00:18:58 ◼   ► amazing scene where which i do i just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1138">TS</a>]

00:19:00 ◼   ► love dearly loved the whole thing things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1140">TS</a>]

00:19:02 ◼   ► I i think we quote that scene weekly and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1142">TS</a>]

00:19:05 ◼   ► if it's not a line must be drawn here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1145">TS</a>]

00:19:07 ◼   ► it's you broke your little ships right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1147">TS</a>]

00:19:09 ◼   ► that is it and just the way she under [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1149">TS</a>]

00:19:12 ◼   ► cells that line two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1152">TS</a>]

00:19:14 ◼   ► she doesn't make a big deal out of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1154">TS</a>]

00:19:15 ◼   ► just you know there's that pause and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1155">TS</a>]

00:19:18 ◼   ► broke a little ships it's like that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1158">TS</a>]

00:19:21 ◼   ► the coldest way to do that line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1161">TS</a>]

00:19:23 ◼   ► well I like the I mean in the it's shot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1163">TS</a>]

00:19:25 ◼   ► very well seen to it this whole movie is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1165">TS</a>]

00:19:27 ◼   ► shot very distinctly from the enterprise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1167">TS</a>]

00:19:29 ◼   ► that we've come to know and love right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1169">TS</a>]

00:19:31 ◼   ► on the series because it's the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1171">TS</a>]

00:19:34 ◼   ► enterprise as we've as we've had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1174">TS</a>]

00:19:36 ◼   ► arguments in the in our back channel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1176">TS</a>]

00:19:38 ◼   ► slack for her few weeks about what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1178">TS</a>]

00:19:40 ◼   ► happened carrier Enterprise it so that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1180">TS</a>]

00:19:42 ◼   ► great but you know it is it's a it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1182">TS</a>]

00:19:44 ◼   ► it's the most advanced ship in the fleet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1184">TS</a>]

00:19:46 ◼   ► it's clearly much more of a warship and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1186">TS</a>]

00:19:49 ◼   ► you know the whole thing is sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1189">TS</a>]

00:19:51 ◼   ► darkly lit and it's got all you know a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1191">TS</a>]

00:19:53 ◼   ► very different feel to it and so I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1193">TS</a>]

00:19:56 ◼   ► think and there's a nice like several [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1196">TS</a>]

00:19:57 ◼   ► zoom in on and he talks about we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1197">TS</a>]

00:19:59 ◼   ► you know they they do this we fall back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1199">TS</a>]

00:20:02 ◼   ► they do this we retreat you know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1202">TS</a>]

00:20:03 ◼   ► like I love that it's a great shot two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1203">TS</a>]

00:20:05 ◼   ► great delivery by stuart like that whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1205">TS</a>]

00:20:07 ◼   ► thing is incredibly well put together I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1207">TS</a>]

00:20:10 ◼   ► and I think what's interesting about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1210">TS</a>]

00:20:12 ◼   ► this is that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1212">TS</a>]

00:20:13 ◼   ► puts Starfleet on a much more military [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1213">TS</a>]

00:20:17 ◼   ► footing you know it feels like I mean I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1217">TS</a>]

00:20:19 ◼   ► was thinking also just so it's almost a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1219">TS</a>]

00:20:21 ◼   ► throwaway line but yeah Lily calls him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1221">TS</a>]

00:20:24 ◼   ► addresses him as soldier at one point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1224">TS</a>]

00:20:26 ◼   ► and he doesn't argue with that or make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1226">TS</a>]

00:20:28 ◼   ► any comment about it right like even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1228">TS</a>]

00:20:30 ◼   ► though i think there are a lot of cases [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1230">TS</a>]

00:20:31 ◼   ► where we'd have started characters like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1231">TS</a>]

00:20:33 ◼   ► we're not soldiers were really like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1233">TS</a>]

00:20:35 ◼   ► explorers and scientists now in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1235">TS</a>]

00:20:36 ◼   ► from there pretty much soldiers it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1236">TS</a>]

00:20:38 ◼   ► even more clever than that i think in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1238">TS</a>]

00:20:40 ◼   ► that there's a scene the scene where he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1240">TS</a>]

00:20:41 ◼   ► takes her to the Observation Lounge and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1241">TS</a>]

00:20:43 ◼   ► shows her earth and it's this beautiful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1243">TS</a>]

00:20:45 ◼   ► it's it's such a star trek seen it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1245">TS</a>]

00:20:47 ◼   ► such a gene roddenberry scene where it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1247">TS</a>]

00:20:49 ◼   ► like we don't even have any money in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1249">TS</a>]

00:20:51 ◼   ► future we just work to better ourselves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1251">TS</a>]

00:20:52 ◼   ► the whole thing and then they go and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1252">TS</a>]

00:20:55 ◼   ► they emerged into the middle of the into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1255">TS</a>]

00:20:56 ◼   ► the bridge and the bat and the battle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1256">TS</a>]

00:20:58 ◼   ► planning is going on and you can see in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1258">TS</a>]

00:21:01 ◼   ► alfre woodard it's like oh so much for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1261">TS</a>]

00:21:05 ◼   ► idealism right like that that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1265">TS</a>]

00:21:07 ◼   ► moment where like the old the kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1267">TS</a>]

00:21:08 ◼   ► star trek ideals and falls away and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1268">TS</a>]

00:21:10 ◼   ► we're fighting and all the right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1270">TS</a>]

00:21:12 ◼   ► lighting is like red and everybody's got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1272">TS</a>]

00:21:13 ◼   ► big rifles and there's gonna be a fight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1273">TS</a>]

00:21:15 ◼   ► and it's a really like like she she gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1275">TS</a>]

00:21:18 ◼   ► old star trek and then this is what she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1278">TS</a>]

00:21:20 ◼   ► actually get it turns into ds9 there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1280">TS</a>]

00:21:22 ◼   ► what people think so that the the big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1282">TS</a>]

00:21:24 ◼   ► action sequence and it is it is a it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1284">TS</a>]

00:21:27 ◼   ► an action movie sequence right it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1287">TS</a>]

00:21:29 ◼   ► we need two three complete 3d Lee's that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1289">TS</a>]

00:21:31 ◼   ► need to be turned in order to do the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1291">TS</a>]

00:21:33 ◼   ► thing stops the bad guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1293">TS</a>]

00:21:34 ◼   ► yeah you know it is that although [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1294">TS</a>]

00:21:38 ◼   ► they're all I think there's a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1298">TS</a>]

00:21:39 ◼   ► clever things about the fact that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1299">TS</a>]

00:21:40 ◼   ► on the underside of the saucer that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1300">TS</a>]

00:21:42 ◼   ► get the kind of like funny where they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1302">TS</a>]

00:21:44 ◼   ► upside down and then we get the shot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1304">TS</a>]

00:21:46 ◼   ► where we pan up and now we've oriented [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1306">TS</a>]

00:21:47 ◼   ► right side up and there's some antigrav [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1307">TS</a>]

00:21:49 ◼   ► stuff in it and there's some some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1309">TS</a>]

00:21:51 ◼   ► punching in spacesuits and Worf uses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1311">TS</a>]

00:21:54 ◼   ► aboard 2-2 tie office in a suit at one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1314">TS</a>]

00:21:57 ◼   ► point and i know it is i I really enjoy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1317">TS</a>]

00:22:02 ◼   ► that scene although i think it goes back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1322">TS</a>]

00:22:04 ◼   ► to what i was saying about future movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1324">TS</a>]

00:22:06 ◼   ► that i enjoy that scene and yet I one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1326">TS</a>]

00:22:09 ◼   ► the reasons i enjoy this because at this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1329">TS</a>]

00:22:10 ◼   ► point we didn't see the next generation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1330">TS</a>]

00:22:12 ◼   ► do action set pieces like this and now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1332">TS</a>]

00:22:15 ◼   ► like Star Trek movies have to be all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1335">TS</a>]

00:22:16 ◼   ► action set pieces like this so that part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1336">TS</a>]

00:22:19 ◼   ► of it i don't like but I do kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1339">TS</a>]

00:22:20 ◼   ► enjoy it as ridiculous it is that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1340">TS</a>]

00:22:22 ◼   ► three maglock thing is that they have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1342">TS</a>]

00:22:23 ◼   ► turn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1343">TS</a>]

00:22:24 ◼   ► hard part of that is also the the sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1344">TS</a>]

00:22:26 ◼   ► of like horror aspect the thriller [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1346">TS</a>]

00:22:28 ◼   ► aspect of it but make sure that makes it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1348">TS</a>]

00:22:30 ◼   ► slightly different than some of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1350">TS</a>]

00:22:31 ◼   ► other action set-pieces we're going up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1351">TS</a>]

00:22:34 ◼   ► against other kinds of villains in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1354">TS</a>]

00:22:36 ◼   ► particular case you know it's more like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1356">TS</a>]

00:22:39 ◼   ► fighting zombies you know they're kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1359">TS</a>]

00:22:41 ◼   ► of ignoring you milling around doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1361">TS</a>]

00:22:43 ◼   ► your thing and it's like oh now you draw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1363">TS</a>]

00:22:44 ◼   ► their attention not so it can it makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1364">TS</a>]

00:22:48 ◼   ► the action scenes play out differently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1368">TS</a>]

00:22:49 ◼   ► than if there were Romulans doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1369">TS</a>]

00:22:52 ◼   ► something on the deflector dish or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1372">TS</a>]

00:22:53 ◼   ► Riemann's doing something on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1373">TS</a>]

00:22:55 ◼   ► deflector dish they keep looking up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1375">TS</a>]

00:22:56 ◼   ► right when they when they do things with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1376">TS</a>]

00:22:58 ◼   ► the computer to keep looking up and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1378">TS</a>]

00:23:00 ◼   ► remember that moment like oh oh jeez but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1380">TS</a>]

00:23:02 ◼   ► it doesn't it's not like if it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1382">TS</a>]

00:23:04 ◼   ► Romulan or something where they would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1384">TS</a>]

00:23:05 ◼   ► immediately be like calling in people to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1385">TS</a>]

00:23:08 ◼   ► go attack them instead your current kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1388">TS</a>]

00:23:09 ◼   ► of waiting for women they gonna come and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1389">TS</a>]

00:23:11 ◼   ► when are they going to attack but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1391">TS</a>]

00:23:13 ◼   ► people who are doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1393">TS</a>]

00:23:14 ◼   ► yeah I want to actually get double [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1394">TS</a>]

00:23:16 ◼   ► double dominant because it is now I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1396">TS</a>]

00:23:18 ◼   ► recently I think every watch this maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1398">TS</a>]

00:23:21 ◼   ► a week and a half ago i've been on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1401">TS</a>]

00:23:23 ◼   ► star trek kick we're watching all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1403">TS</a>]

00:23:24 ◼   ► movies and I think it was a week after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1404">TS</a>]

00:23:27 ◼   ► their reward first time tag and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1407">TS</a>]

00:23:29 ◼   ► really did strike me how much especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1409">TS</a>]

00:23:34 ◼   ► in the earlier scenes with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1414">TS</a>]

00:23:35 ◼   ► enterprise is being assimilated and crew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1415">TS</a>]

00:23:38 ◼   ► members are being assimilated and there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1418">TS</a>]

00:23:40 ◼   ► are shots of crew members and having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1420">TS</a>]

00:23:42 ◼   ► their limbs replace how much it is shot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1422">TS</a>]

00:23:44 ◼   ► like a body horror film [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1424">TS</a>]

00:23:46 ◼   ► yeah and how much you know caution [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1426">TS</a>]

00:23:50 ◼   ► tight tight spaces low lighting costs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1430">TS</a>]

00:23:53 ◼   ► phobia there's the scene where data is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1433">TS</a>]

00:23:56 ◼   ► is grab from beneath and dried under [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1436">TS</a>]

00:23:58 ◼   ► manager here did a straight-up horror [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1438">TS</a>]

00:24:02 ◼   ► movie scenes a green and Jeffrey's to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1442">TS</a>]

00:24:04 ◼   ► really early on right oh yeah the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1444">TS</a>]

00:24:07 ◼   ► two simulations we don't even see I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1447">TS</a>]

00:24:09 ◼   ► first much as first contact is a more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1449">TS</a>]

00:24:12 ◼   ► action e-track movie i do think that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1452">TS</a>]

00:24:16 ◼   ► fact that so much of the action [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1456">TS</a>]

00:24:18 ◼   ► throughout be the film is in this horror [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1458">TS</a>]

00:24:23 ◼   ► style does make it seem under this makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1463">TS</a>]

00:24:27 ◼   ► it seem less action it makes it seem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1467">TS</a>]

00:24:28 ◼   ► less true it's not it's not kinetic in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1468">TS</a>]

00:24:31 ◼   ► way that sealing the the reboots are and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1471">TS</a>]

00:24:34 ◼   ► that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1474">TS</a>]

00:24:35 ◼   ► that makes a real difference in just the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1475">TS</a>]

00:24:37 ◼   ► general feel of it I i really really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1477">TS</a>]

00:24:39 ◼   ► agree with that in one of the the core [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1479">TS</a>]

00:24:42 ◼   ► consists of a horror movie is you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1482">TS</a>]

00:24:44 ◼   ► heart is generally a lower budget genre [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1484">TS</a>]

00:24:47 ◼   ► right so you not to blast star trek [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1487">TS</a>]

00:24:51 ◼   ► beyond similar but you know the scene [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1491">TS</a>]

00:24:52 ◼   ► where you know the the enterprise tips [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1492">TS</a>]

00:24:54 ◼   ► up and they're the others flying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1494">TS</a>]

00:24:56 ◼   ► downhill or even you know the rescue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1496">TS</a>]

00:24:59 ◼   ► seem like it's just an action movie like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1499">TS</a>]

00:25:01 ◼   ► someone got carpal tunnel CGI and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1501">TS</a>]

00:25:03 ◼   ► the motor bikes around its not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1503">TS</a>]

00:25:05 ◼   ► impressive anymore i think what makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1505">TS</a>]

00:25:08 ◼   ► this movie work and part of it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1508">TS</a>]

00:25:10 ◼   ► because it did come in an age before cg [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1510">TS</a>]

00:25:13 ◼   ► hit really just freed us or trapped us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1513">TS</a>]

00:25:16 ◼   ► to like depending on how you see it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1516">TS</a>]

00:25:18 ◼   ► it's it's shot like that scene is kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1518">TS</a>]

00:25:22 ◼   ► of low budget like they're moving in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1522">TS</a>]

00:25:24 ◼   ► slow motion on a soundstage you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1524">TS</a>]

00:25:27 ◼   ► it's lit very carefully and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1527">TS</a>]

00:25:29 ◼   ► actually very minimal set for something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1529">TS</a>]

00:25:31 ◼   ► you're describing as a as a whole you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1531">TS</a>]

00:25:33 ◼   ► know an action scene and I firmly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1533">TS</a>]

00:25:36 ◼   ► believe it's a creative person that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1536">TS</a>]

00:25:38 ◼   ► constraints can actually make your work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1538">TS</a>]

00:25:41 ◼   ► better and i think they served them in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1541">TS</a>]

00:25:43 ◼   ► the same absolutely let's pick up the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1543">TS</a>]

00:25:46 ◼   ► thread about the board and i want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1546">TS</a>]

00:25:47 ◼   ► move kind of tour data and the board [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1547">TS</a>]

00:25:49 ◼   ► queen but it goes with the the idea of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1549">TS</a>]

00:25:51 ◼   ► the horror movie David does get dragged [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1551">TS</a>]

00:25:53 ◼   ► into that door and then we get a series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1553">TS</a>]

00:25:55 ◼   ► of scenes with the board queen i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1555">TS</a>]

00:25:58 ◼   ► more broadly to the Borg as a villain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1558">TS</a>]

00:26:01 ◼   ► going back to start to iive um I'm gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1561">TS</a>]

00:26:05 ◼   ► I'm gonna say later on that their scenes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1565">TS</a>]

00:26:08 ◼   ► with data for Queen that actually remind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1568">TS</a>]

00:26:09 ◼   ► me of goldfinger their strength but he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1569">TS</a>]

00:26:12 ◼   ► tied down and they're having like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1572">TS</a>]

00:26:14 ◼   ► repartee it actually does remind me of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1574">TS</a>]

00:26:16 ◼   ► that but do you expect me to talk no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1576">TS</a>]

00:26:18 ◼   ► expect you to die i expect you to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1578">TS</a>]

00:26:20 ◼   ► assimilate but the but the thing about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1580">TS</a>]

00:26:24 ◼   ► about structure to is it has khan and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1584">TS</a>]

00:26:26 ◼   ► is this oversized character who is going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1586">TS</a>]

00:26:29 ◼   ► to be the opposition and and we're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1589">TS</a>]

00:26:31 ◼   ► have a madman that the the crew has to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1591">TS</a>]

00:26:33 ◼   ► defeat the problem that great movie one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1593">TS</a>]

00:26:35 ◼   ► of my favorite movies of all time but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1595">TS</a>]

00:26:36 ◼   ► problem is that it seems like now every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1596">TS</a>]

00:26:38 ◼   ► search movie has one of those characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1598">TS</a>]

00:26:39 ◼   ► and this movie reminded me again the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1599">TS</a>]

00:26:42 ◼   ► board are yes there's a face to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1602">TS</a>]

00:26:44 ◼   ► board in the board queen but they're a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1604">TS</a>]

00:26:45 ◼   ► force of nature they are kinda like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1605">TS</a>]

00:26:47 ◼   ► zombies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1607">TS</a>]

00:26:48 ◼   ► it is more like a horror movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1608">TS</a>]

00:26:49 ◼   ► and I really like that I really liked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1609">TS</a>]

00:26:51 ◼   ► that that what's happening on the on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1611">TS</a>]

00:26:53 ◼   ► enterprise's an infestation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1613">TS</a>]

00:26:55 ◼   ► it's not a madman's masterplan blah it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1615">TS</a>]

00:27:00 ◼   ► it's it's something much more scary and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1620">TS</a>]

00:27:03 ◼   ► insidious and it's taking over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1623">TS</a>]

00:27:04 ◼   ► crewmembers I I like all of that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1624">TS</a>]

00:27:08 ◼   ► it's not the master plan they weren't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1628">TS</a>]

00:27:10 ◼   ► expecting the enterprise to follow them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1630">TS</a>]

00:27:12 ◼   ► this is totally improv it's like as long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1632">TS</a>]

00:27:14 ◼   ► as we're here they are a force of nature [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1634">TS</a>]

00:27:16 ◼   ► but they also are thinking and have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1636">TS</a>]

00:27:19 ◼   ► plan their you know they have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1639">TS</a>]

00:27:20 ◼   ► collection they stopped assimilating at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1640">TS</a>]

00:27:22 ◼   ► a certain deck because that's all they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1642">TS</a>]

00:27:23 ◼   ► need at that point right get what they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1643">TS</a>]

00:27:25 ◼   ► need so that makes them even scarier if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1645">TS</a>]

00:27:27 ◼   ► they were just you know mindlessly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1647">TS</a>]

00:27:29 ◼   ► assimilating I don't they keep coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1649">TS</a>]

00:27:31 ◼   ► exactly like i felt dumb for not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1651">TS</a>]

00:27:32 ◼   ► realizing you even though I've seen this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1652">TS</a>]

00:27:34 ◼   ► movie several times including in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1654">TS</a>]

00:27:35 ◼   ► theaters i felt dumb for never really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1655">TS</a>]

00:27:37 ◼   ► drawing that zombie parallel and I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1657">TS</a>]

00:27:39 ◼   ► maybe that's because at the time it felt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1659">TS</a>]

00:27:40 ◼   ► like zombies were not as big thing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1660">TS</a>]

00:27:42 ◼   ► they are now you know that would be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1662">TS</a>]

00:27:44 ◼   ► constant like walking dead and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1664">TS</a>]

00:27:46 ◼   ► everything like that but the it really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1666">TS</a>]

00:27:48 ◼   ► is such a great line of course they call [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1668">TS</a>]

00:27:49 ◼   ► it out by guy she he describes them as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1669">TS</a>]

00:27:51 ◼   ► cyborg zombies to Lily at one point but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1671">TS</a>]

00:27:55 ◼   ► it is really good like the assimilation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1675">TS</a>]

00:27:57 ◼   ► rights writedowns like don't let them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1677">TS</a>]

00:27:58 ◼   ► touch you don't let them bite you right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1678">TS</a>]

00:27:59 ◼   ► like you'll be infected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1679">TS</a>]

00:28:01 ◼   ► you know in that aspect of it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1681">TS</a>]

00:28:03 ◼   ► mirroring the horror movie part of it i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1683">TS</a>]

00:28:04 ◼   ► think is is very very clever and very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1684">TS</a>]

00:28:07 ◼   ► savvy and they take a lot of cues from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1687">TS</a>]

00:28:08 ◼   ► that genre and they they really they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1688">TS</a>]

00:28:11 ◼   ► assimilated a genre pretty well in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1691">TS</a>]

00:28:13 ◼   ► cinema say one thing i like about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1693">TS</a>]

00:28:15 ◼   ► board as villains that's an interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1695">TS</a>]

00:28:18 ◼   ► twist i think on some of the core [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1698">TS</a>]

00:28:21 ◼   ► premises of star track which is that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1701">TS</a>]

00:28:23 ◼   ► know it's a serious devoted to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1703">TS</a>]

00:28:26 ◼   ► exploration the idea that we can meet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1706">TS</a>]

00:28:29 ◼   ► the alien species other intelligent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1709">TS</a>]

00:28:32 ◼   ► beings and work with them and cooperate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1712">TS</a>]

00:28:35 ◼   ► with them and the board should have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1715">TS</a>]

00:28:36 ◼   ► raised the question what if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1716">TS</a>]

00:28:38 ◼   ► encounter something that is profoundly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1718">TS</a>]

00:28:40 ◼   ► alien right that isn't that that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1720">TS</a>]

00:28:43 ◼   ► does not into come close to perceiving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1723">TS</a>]

00:28:46 ◼   ► the world anyway like you do that has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1726">TS</a>]

00:28:48 ◼   ► its own own sort of like actually the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1728">TS</a>]

00:28:52 ◼   ► world like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1732">TS</a>]

00:28:53 ◼   ► ideology that is / it almost profoundly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1733">TS</a>]

00:28:57 ◼   ► auntie life does not fit what do you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1737">TS</a>]

00:29:01 ◼   ► with something like that that does not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1741">TS</a>]

00:29:02 ◼   ► fit with your sense of what what ought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1742">TS</a>]

00:29:06 ◼   ► to be and I I just like I like how that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1746">TS</a>]

00:29:11 ◼   ► how that profound alien this access road [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1751">TS</a>]

00:29:16 ◼   ► like a challenge to shred of inmates [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1756">TS</a>]

00:29:19 ◼   ► this is one of the threads of the movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1759">TS</a>]

00:29:21 ◼   ► like it's not just Picard's PTSD here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1761">TS</a>]

00:29:23 ◼   ► but in a real way the board acted sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1763">TS</a>]

00:29:28 ◼   ► of like a you know you think you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1768">TS</a>]

00:29:30 ◼   ► have this Federation but here's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1770">TS</a>]

00:29:32 ◼   ► something that just will not fit well I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1772">TS</a>]

00:29:34 ◼   ► mean it's me it's multiculturalism [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1774">TS</a>]

00:29:35 ◼   ► versus a simulation if you want to boil [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1775">TS</a>]

00:29:37 ◼   ► it down right because these are both the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1777">TS</a>]

00:29:39 ◼   ► Federation is all about finding new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1779">TS</a>]

00:29:40 ◼   ► worlds and new people and bringing them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1780">TS</a>]

00:29:42 ◼   ► into their happy kind of community and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1782">TS</a>]

00:29:45 ◼   ► the border about finding new worlds and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1785">TS</a>]

00:29:46 ◼   ► finding new people and taking what they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1786">TS</a>]

00:29:48 ◼   ► want from them and incorporating it into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1788">TS</a>]

00:29:50 ◼   ► a single assimilated hole which is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1790">TS</a>]

00:29:53 ◼   ► to go too far down this path but I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1793">TS</a>]

00:29:54 ◼   ► in some ways they're diabetic coma [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1794">TS</a>]

00:29:57 ◼   ► diametrically opposed in some ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1797">TS</a>]

00:29:58 ◼   ► they're kind of similar and that that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1798">TS</a>]

00:30:00 ◼   ► kind of interesting to like I love that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1800">TS</a>]

00:30:03 ◼   ► the board queen who is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1803">TS</a>]

00:30:04 ◼   ► representation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1804">TS</a>]

00:30:05 ◼   ► I think it's a very smart decision by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1805">TS</a>]

00:30:06 ◼   ► the screenplay by the way to have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1806">TS</a>]

00:30:08 ◼   ► character who is a representation of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1808">TS</a>]

00:30:10 ◼   ► board collective because otherwise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1810">TS</a>]

00:30:12 ◼   ► they're kind of totally faceless but she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1812">TS</a>]

00:30:14 ◼   ► makes this argument right like what do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1814">TS</a>]

00:30:16 ◼   ► you mean data we we go find the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1816">TS</a>]

00:30:18 ◼   ► stuff and we're we're trying to achieve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1818">TS</a>]

00:30:20 ◼   ► perfection by picking the best of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1820">TS</a>]

00:30:22 ◼   ► everybody and creating me one perfect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1822">TS</a>]

00:30:24 ◼   ► life-form in the galaxy there's a way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1824">TS</a>]

00:30:27 ◼   ► there's not way and what's this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1827">TS</a>]

00:30:29 ◼   ► the Borg Queen and that concede is in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1829">TS</a>]

00:30:31 ◼   ► dialogue with Star Trek six instead of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1831">TS</a>]

00:30:36 ◼   ► the the conversation early on in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1836">TS</a>]

00:30:39 ◼   ► movie among the Klingons about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1839">TS</a>]

00:30:41 ◼   ► Federation as this as this project that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1841">TS</a>]

00:30:45 ◼   ► will wipe away click on cultural [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1845">TS</a>]

00:30:47 ◼   ► distinctives the Klingons will lose some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1847">TS</a>]

00:30:50 ◼   ► essence of who they are in joining up or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1850">TS</a>]

00:30:53 ◼   ► even even beginning the process of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1853">TS</a>]

00:30:55 ◼   ► joining up with the Federation I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1855">TS</a>]

00:30:57 ◼   ► know how intentional that isn't given [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1857">TS</a>]

00:30:59 ◼   ► the run more was co-writer I'm if I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1859">TS</a>]

00:31:02 ◼   ► a feeling that it probably was a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1862">TS</a>]

00:31:03 ◼   ► intentional but there is definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1863">TS</a>]

00:31:06 ◼   ► some dialogue in those ideas explains a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1866">TS</a>]

00:31:09 ◼   ► lot about collects it by the way if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1869">TS</a>]

00:31:15 ◼   ► look closely at some of the Borg in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1875">TS</a>]

00:31:18 ◼   ► background throughout this film you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1878">TS</a>]

00:31:21 ◼   ► they had they had way more budget and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1881">TS</a>]

00:31:23 ◼   ► way more time to do the makeup so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1883">TS</a>]

00:31:25 ◼   ► instead of just being a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1885">TS</a>]

00:31:26 ◼   ► humanoid-looking boring if you look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1886">TS</a>]

00:31:29 ◼   ► closely there are Klingon border and in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1889">TS</a>]

00:31:31 ◼   ► romulus and Vulcans and Bolians and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1891">TS</a>]

00:31:34 ◼   ► know they they took the time to rethink [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1894">TS</a>]

00:31:37 ◼   ► how they looked and make all those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1897">TS</a>]

00:31:40 ◼   ► different aliens into board to which you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1900">TS</a>]

00:31:43 ◼   ► know very subtle thing and it was quite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1903">TS</a>]

00:31:45 ◼   ► the boon for the Borg expansion set of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1905">TS</a>]

00:31:48 ◼   ► the star trek customizable car get haha [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1908">TS</a>]

00:31:51 ◼   ► just oh just just head out nervous all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1911">TS</a>]

00:31:55 ◼   ► so John Syracuse and I every now and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1915">TS</a>]

00:31:57 ◼   ► then talk about what if things are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1917">TS</a>]

00:31:58 ◼   ► robots are not at one point he and i had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1918">TS</a>]

00:32:01 ◼   ► a baby a wacky conversation where we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1921">TS</a>]

00:32:02 ◼   ► were talking about if you took a robot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1922">TS</a>]

00:32:04 ◼   ► and added organic things would it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1924">TS</a>]

00:32:07 ◼   ► it become to become a cyborg from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1927">TS</a>]

00:32:09 ◼   ► other direction which is kind of what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1929">TS</a>]

00:32:10 ◼   ► the board Queens trying to do to data [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1930">TS</a>]

00:32:12 ◼   ► here but I think that's fascinating that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1932">TS</a>]

00:32:14 ◼   ► the Borg so many stories i think we see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1934">TS</a>]

00:32:17 ◼   ► in Star Trek and another science fiction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1937">TS</a>]

00:32:19 ◼   ► are about computer intelligences machine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1939">TS</a>]

00:32:22 ◼   ► intelligence features and things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1942">TS</a>]

00:32:24 ◼   ► that are saying we're going to perfect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1944">TS</a>]

00:32:25 ◼   ► everything by being logical and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1945">TS</a>]

00:32:28 ◼   ► making everything into a computer and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1948">TS</a>]

00:32:31 ◼   ► the board isn't like that it's actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1951">TS</a>]

00:32:32 ◼   ► one of the things that I find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1952">TS</a>]

00:32:33 ◼   ► fascinating about the board is the Board [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1953">TS</a>]

00:32:35 ◼   ► believes that the ultimate perfection in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1955">TS</a>]

00:32:37 ◼   ► life is a synthesis of organic life and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1957">TS</a>]

00:32:41 ◼   ► machinery and so data is intriguing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1961">TS</a>]

00:32:44 ◼   ► them but also still kind of offensive to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1964">TS</a>]

00:32:47 ◼   ► them because data is just a machine data [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1967">TS</a>]

00:32:49 ◼   ► is a failure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1969">TS</a>]

00:32:51 ◼   ► Amanda would say this to write data [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1971">TS</a>]

00:32:52 ◼   ► wants to be more human and and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1972">TS</a>]

00:32:54 ◼   ► board's perspective is yeah you do need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1974">TS</a>]

00:32:57 ◼   ► to be more human because machines are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1977">TS</a>]

00:32:58 ◼   ► just as bad as pure organics as as we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1978">TS</a>]

00:33:01 ◼   ► were watching earlier the kids both went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1981">TS</a>]

00:33:03 ◼   ► wee wee don't want to know where they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1983">TS</a>]

00:33:05 ◼   ► got the skin for day and said no you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1985">TS</a>]

00:33:08 ◼   ► really that bored always have a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1988">TS</a>]

00:33:10 ◼   ► skin that implies that they grew it or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1990">TS</a>]

00:33:12 ◼   ► something like that but yeah we don't we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1992">TS</a>]

00:33:13 ◼   ► don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1993">TS</a>]

00:33:14 ◼   ► wanna know where the things that makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1994">TS</a>]

00:33:16 ◼   ► the board so effective is that they take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1996">TS</a>]

00:33:20 ◼   ► familiar things and they make them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2000">TS</a>]

00:33:22 ◼   ► unfamiliar right so there are simulating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2002">TS</a>]

00:33:23 ◼   ► the enterprise and they have that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2003">TS</a>]

00:33:25 ◼   ► there's a great scene where they go from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2005">TS</a>]

00:33:26 ◼   ► the normal corridor you know in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2006">TS</a>]

00:33:28 ◼   ► early in the movie when they're figure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2008">TS</a>]

00:33:30 ◼   ► out the border on the enterprise and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2010">TS</a>]

00:33:31 ◼   ► they're walking down a corridor and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2011">TS</a>]

00:33:33 ◼   ► suddenly you know they turn a corner and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2013">TS</a>]

00:33:36 ◼   ► it's the same corridor except its border [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2016">TS</a>]

00:33:38 ◼   ► five and so now suddenly it's an alien [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2018">TS</a>]

00:33:41 ◼   ► space but yet there's an underlying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2021">TS</a>]

00:33:43 ◼   ► familiarity of it so that makes it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2023">TS</a>]

00:33:44 ◼   ► creepy and then of course they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2024">TS</a>]

00:33:46 ◼   ► assimilate people you know and change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2026">TS</a>]

00:33:48 ◼   ► the way they look datas look changes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2028">TS</a>]

00:33:50 ◼   ► because the graft all the skin on to him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2030">TS</a>]

00:33:53 ◼   ► that shot where they show that the earth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2033">TS</a>]

00:33:56 ◼   ► has been assimilated it's a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2036">TS</a>]

00:33:57 ◼   ► familiar shot of the earth but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2037">TS</a>]

00:33:59 ◼   ► slightly different so it's very very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2039">TS</a>]

00:34:00 ◼   ► effective [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2040">TS</a>]

00:34:01 ◼   ► it's like a literal nightmare you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2041">TS</a>]

00:34:03 ◼   ► when you have those dreams where it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2043">TS</a>]

00:34:04 ◼   ► like I was in my house but it's not my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2044">TS</a>]

00:34:05 ◼   ► house and someone was there but they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2045">TS</a>]

00:34:07 ◼   ► weren't that person and that's exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2047">TS</a>]

00:34:09 ◼   ► that zombies and body horror and I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2049">TS</a>]

00:34:11 ◼   ► it's all kind of wrapped together I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2051">TS</a>]

00:34:12 ◼   ► think any other thoughts about that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2052">TS</a>]

00:34:14 ◼   ► the board the board queen i really like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2054">TS</a>]

00:34:16 ◼   ► Alice creek here i love the shot where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2056">TS</a>]

00:34:18 ◼   ► she comes down from the rafters and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2058">TS</a>]

00:34:19 ◼   ► just because everyone because that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2059">TS</a>]

00:34:22 ◼   ► says it all right that says this is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2062">TS</a>]

00:34:23 ◼   ► a person right this is not a human [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2063">TS</a>]

00:34:25 ◼   ► person anyway this is something very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2065">TS</a>]

00:34:27 ◼   ► different and and it's just it's just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2067">TS</a>]

00:34:30 ◼   ► great moment i love it as you and she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2070">TS</a>]

00:34:32 ◼   ► gets in her little outfit and then just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2072">TS</a>]

00:34:34 ◼   ► starts to walk it's like why even now I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2074">TS</a>]

00:34:36 ◼   ► like that i love that shot and I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2076">TS</a>]

00:34:38 ◼   ► really like this character too and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2078">TS</a>]

00:34:39 ◼   ► agree I my question i guess for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2079">TS</a>]

00:34:41 ◼   ► rescue I'm kind of curious like coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2081">TS</a>]

00:34:42 ◼   ► into this from you know your experiences [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2082">TS</a>]

00:34:45 ◼   ► with the Borg in the series to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2085">TS</a>]

00:34:48 ◼   ► seemed like does it seem really on board [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2088">TS</a>]

00:34:50 ◼   ► like I mean they they have a data gets a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2090">TS</a>]

00:34:52 ◼   ► nice shot off he's like oh you can't be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2092">TS</a>]

00:34:54 ◼   ► an individual because that's not what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2094">TS</a>]

00:34:55 ◼   ► the Borg are and she's like well you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2095">TS</a>]

00:34:57 ◼   ► know sort of its but it's a weird it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2097">TS</a>]

00:35:00 ◼   ► not something we've really seen that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2100">TS</a>]

00:35:02 ◼   ► much of from the board we do have like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2102">TS</a>]

00:35:03 ◼   ► Hugh early on and stuff like that right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2103">TS</a>]

00:35:05 ◼   ► where we have semi individuals of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2105">TS</a>]

00:35:08 ◼   ► later we have seven of nine on Voyager [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2108">TS</a>]

00:35:10 ◼   ► but it seems it's an interesting choice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2110">TS</a>]

00:35:13 ◼   ► because it does put a face on what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2113">TS</a>]

00:35:15 ◼   ► otherwise this gigantic monolithic bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2115">TS</a>]

00:35:18 ◼   ► guy and I was curious to know if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2118">TS</a>]

00:35:20 ◼   ► guys felt like that was a that was an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2120">TS</a>]

00:35:21 ◼   ► odd choice or no I think it's a really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2121">TS</a>]

00:35:23 ◼   ► good choice especially going forward on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2123">TS</a>]

00:35:25 ◼   ► Voyager like a lot of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2125">TS</a>]

00:35:27 ◼   ► best episodes of season 6 and 7 or all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2127">TS</a>]

00:35:30 ◼   ► about the board queen and you know Jason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2130">TS</a>]

00:35:32 ◼   ► you're talking about liking the shot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2132">TS</a>]

00:35:33 ◼   ► where she comes down like they you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2133">TS</a>]

00:35:37 ◼   ► see the the special version of it like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2137">TS</a>]

00:35:40 ◼   ► with the special effects shots were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2140">TS</a>]

00:35:41 ◼   ► there they have on a crane they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2141">TS</a>]

00:35:43 ◼   ► lowering her down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2143">TS</a>]

00:35:45 ◼   ► Voyager had a shot that I think even it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2145">TS</a>]

00:35:49 ◼   ► surpasses that is her entire body being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2149">TS</a>]

00:35:52 ◼   ► put together from scratch it's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2152">TS</a>]

00:35:54 ◼   ► really awesome probably the the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2154">TS</a>]

00:35:56 ◼   ► technical moment of Voyager special [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2156">TS</a>]

00:35:58 ◼   ► effects so I think I i really like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2158">TS</a>]

00:36:01 ◼   ► because I think she does kind of thumb [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2161">TS</a>]

00:36:03 ◼   ► is she gives you no conflict in science [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2163">TS</a>]

00:36:08 ◼   ► fiction like it's it's basically about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2168">TS</a>]

00:36:10 ◼   ► mirroring human emotion right so i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2170">TS</a>]

00:36:13 ◼   ► when it's more amorphous I think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2173">TS</a>]

00:36:15 ◼   ► really hard to get at the heart of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2175">TS</a>]

00:36:17 ◼   ► that said I think that the biggest flaw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2177">TS</a>]

00:36:19 ◼   ► at least to me in first contact is you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2179">TS</a>]

00:36:23 ◼   ► know the data board Queen subplot i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2183">TS</a>]

00:36:26 ◼   ► think it is a little bit mod1 I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2186">TS</a>]

00:36:29 ◼   ► Star Trek tends to go down the road of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2189">TS</a>]

00:36:31 ◼   ► someone that wants to be human just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2191">TS</a>]

00:36:33 ◼   ► about two or three times too many and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2193">TS</a>]

00:36:36 ◼   ► it's just down it didn't really land for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2196">TS</a>]

00:36:38 ◼   ► me and I think it's because you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2198">TS</a>]

00:36:40 ◼   ► brent Spiner is acting just can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2200">TS</a>]

00:36:42 ◼   ► compete with other people in the movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2202">TS</a>]

00:36:44 ◼   ► to be honest I disagree on a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2204">TS</a>]

00:36:47 ◼   ► different levels but uh because the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2207">TS</a>]

00:36:51 ◼   ► another way you're saying you're talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2211">TS</a>]

00:36:52 ◼   ► about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2212">TS</a>]

00:36:53 ◼   ► I don't feel like it holds up as well as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2213">TS</a>]

00:36:55 ◼   ► the shot in first contact because this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2215">TS</a>]

00:36:58 ◼   ► is mostly photographic with like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2218">TS</a>]

00:37:00 ◼   ► paintwork and like I don't know elastic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2220">TS</a>]

00:37:01 ◼   ► reality or wear these for the morphing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2221">TS</a>]

00:37:03 ◼   ► that pulls off this effect is not as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2223">TS</a>]

00:37:06 ◼   ► complex or as intricate conceptually but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2226">TS</a>]

00:37:09 ◼   ► I feel like wind up looking better over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2229">TS</a>]

00:37:12 ◼   ► the years because the other one was just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2232">TS</a>]

00:37:14 ◼   ► kind of a little shiny if you go back in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2234">TS</a>]

00:37:16 ◼   ► and when watching this this works out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2236">TS</a>]

00:37:19 ◼   ► well for me and I i do like Prince [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2239">TS</a>]

00:37:22 ◼   ► acting off of her there couple scenes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2242">TS</a>]

00:37:25 ◼   ► where he's he's hitting it a little hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2245">TS</a>]

00:37:26 ◼   ► but it's it's AIT's it's nice to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2246">TS</a>]

00:37:30 ◼   ► this sort of unusual seduction compared [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2250">TS</a>]

00:37:35 ◼   ► to I feel like some of the more typical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2255">TS</a>]

00:37:37 ◼   ► star trek romances that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2257">TS</a>]

00:37:39 ◼   ► we see play out because this is very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2259">TS</a>]

00:37:41 ◼   ► alien on many levels to to watch these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2261">TS</a>]

00:37:45 ◼   ► these to interact as opposed to you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2265">TS</a>]

00:37:49 ◼   ► some of the more traditional things of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2269">TS</a>]

00:37:50 ◼   ► of different characters trying to appeal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2270">TS</a>]

00:37:52 ◼   ► to one another in order to accomplish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2272">TS</a>]

00:37:54 ◼   ► their goals and that you know what might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2274">TS</a>]

00:37:55 ◼   ► be a different alien race or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2275">TS</a>]

00:37:57 ◼   ► but mainly comes out like pointed ears [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2277">TS</a>]

00:37:58 ◼   ► and and this is it is something other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2278">TS</a>]

00:38:02 ◼   ► entirely there are moments where I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2282">TS</a>]

00:38:04 ◼   ► especially towards the end where brent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2284">TS</a>]

00:38:05 ◼   ► Spiner doesn't do as good a job but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2285">TS</a>]

00:38:07 ◼   ► think the the when they're doing their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2287">TS</a>]

00:38:08 ◼   ► Goldfinger kind of number there and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2288">TS</a>]

00:38:10 ◼   ► keeps saying things like like that seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2290">TS</a>]

00:38:13 ◼   ► that's an interesting story but i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2293">TS</a>]

00:38:15 ◼   ► think i believe it's friday he's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2295">TS</a>]

00:38:17 ◼   ► skeptical i really like all of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2297">TS</a>]

00:38:19 ◼   ► later later it's maybe not as strong but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2299">TS</a>]

00:38:22 ◼   ► I i do like that because of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2302">TS</a>]

00:38:23 ◼   ► temptations of the flesh that she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2303">TS</a>]

00:38:25 ◼   ► offering to data I feel like that that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2305">TS</a>]

00:38:27 ◼   ► just like laying it out there as plain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2307">TS</a>]

00:38:29 ◼   ► as day of like organic life is something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2309">TS</a>]

00:38:32 ◼   ► that we can provide to you you can be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2312">TS</a>]

00:38:34 ◼   ► more than you are and that's what he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2314">TS</a>]

00:38:35 ◼   ► told us for seven seasons that he always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2315">TS</a>]

00:38:38 ◼   ► wanted and and it also sets up the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2318">TS</a>]

00:38:40 ◼   ► question of like is going to be tempted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2320">TS</a>]

00:38:41 ◼   ► which we find out later he was tempted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2321">TS</a>]

00:38:43 ◼   ► for six tenths of a second which is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2323">TS</a>]

00:38:44 ◼   ► eternity for Androids [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2324">TS</a>]

00:38:46 ◼   ► I i do ultimately I i really like those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2326">TS</a>]

00:38:50 ◼   ► scenes although i think that maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2330">TS</a>]

00:38:51 ◼   ► they're they're not toward the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2331">TS</a>]

00:38:53 ◼   ► they're not quite as well put together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2333">TS</a>]

00:38:54 ◼   ► but I i remember watching it with my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2334">TS</a>]

00:38:56 ◼   ► father and his immediate reaction to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2336">TS</a>]

00:38:58 ◼   ► board Queen was oh no no there are no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2338">TS</a>]

00:39:01 ◼   ► individuals no no and I thought well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2341">TS</a>]

00:39:05 ◼   ► alright that's no that makes sense but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2345">TS</a>]

00:39:07 ◼   ► the more I thought about it night and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2347">TS</a>]

00:39:09 ◼   ► got him to watch it again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2349">TS</a>]

00:39:11 ◼   ► what's the one thing we know about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2351">TS</a>]

00:39:12 ◼   ► board they adapt what do they do in when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2352">TS</a>]

00:39:15 ◼   ► they're firing their weapons they adapt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2355">TS</a>]

00:39:17 ◼   ► to you know they had their shields they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2357">TS</a>]

00:39:19 ◼   ► have to keep shifting frequencies they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2359">TS</a>]

00:39:21 ◼   ► do all these things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2361">TS</a>]

00:39:21 ◼   ► this is just an adaptation this is what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2361">TS</a>]

00:39:23 ◼   ► they have to do to conquer earth and to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2363">TS</a>]

00:39:26 ◼   ► conquer humanity and I thought that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2366">TS</a>]

00:39:28 ◼   ► you know it's not obvious they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2368">TS</a>]

00:39:30 ◼   ► they don't like hold up a sign and go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2370">TS</a>]

00:39:32 ◼   ► see here's what we're doing but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2372">TS</a>]

00:39:34 ◼   ► thought that worked really well and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2374">TS</a>]

00:39:36 ◼   ► I liked where it developed into Voyager [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2376">TS</a>]

00:39:37 ◼   ► she's not over explained here either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2377">TS</a>]

00:39:40 ◼   ► right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2380">TS</a>]

00:39:40 ◼   ► basically I I like that she's like well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2380">TS</a>]

00:39:43 ◼   ► you know the words are individuals and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2383">TS</a>]

00:39:44 ◼   ► she's like it's complicated you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2384">TS</a>]

00:39:46 ◼   ► understand how complicated we are and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2386">TS</a>]

00:39:48 ◼   ► like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2388">TS</a>]

00:39:49 ◼   ► like humans you don't get you you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2389">TS</a>]

00:39:51 ◼   ► you know the Borg but we are way more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2391">TS</a>]

00:39:53 ◼   ► complex than that and then they don't go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2393">TS</a>]

00:39:54 ◼   ► into it i like it because it's like yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2394">TS</a>]

00:39:56 ◼   ► okay i could buy that and we've already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2396">TS</a>]

00:39:57 ◼   ► seen the cutest right we gave we took a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2397">TS</a>]

00:40:00 ◼   ► person gave them a name while they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2400">TS</a>]

00:40:01 ◼   ► assimilated it's like okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2401">TS</a>]

00:40:03 ◼   ► the board will do what they want to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2403">TS</a>]

00:40:04 ◼   ► and if they are a hivemind sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2404">TS</a>]

00:40:06 ◼   ► having a queen bee makes sense so and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2406">TS</a>]

00:40:10 ◼   ► and you know and what we get then is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2410">TS</a>]

00:40:12 ◼   ► spokesperson for the board which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2412">TS</a>]

00:40:13 ◼   ► really what we need in order for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2413">TS</a>]

00:40:15 ◼   ► board to be a little more than a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2415">TS</a>]

00:40:17 ◼   ► faceless automatons which is what they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2417">TS</a>]

00:40:20 ◼   ► were kind of next-generation I like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2420">TS</a>]

00:40:21 ◼   ► scene with Picard and the board Queen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2421">TS</a>]

00:40:23 ◼   ► where he's like but the ship oh i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2423">TS</a>]

00:40:25 ◼   ► remember when i was little cute i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2425">TS</a>]

00:40:27 ◼   ► remember you but that ship was blown up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2427">TS</a>]

00:40:28 ◼   ► and she looks at him with the stain and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2428">TS</a>]

00:40:30 ◼   ► says he's making such three-dimensional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2430">TS</a>]

00:40:32 ◼   ► terms that body is if you know her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2432">TS</a>]

00:40:36 ◼   ► that body is not her she is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2436">TS</a>]

00:40:37 ◼   ► individual kind of but she's also a part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2437">TS</a>]

00:40:41 ◼   ► of the collective so that body just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2441">TS</a>]

00:40:42 ◼   ► appears whenever she needs it to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2442">TS</a>]

00:40:44 ◼   ► because she is where the board is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2444">TS</a>]

00:40:46 ◼   ► because she is bored like the Trinity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2446">TS</a>]

00:40:48 ◼   ► people i mean even when they named him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2448">TS</a>]

00:40:49 ◼   ► Locutus they they did make it pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2449">TS</a>]

00:40:51 ◼   ► clear that they named him that because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2451">TS</a>]

00:40:54 ◼   ► they felt they needed a spokesman they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2454">TS</a>]

00:40:56 ◼   ► needed someone to communicate yeah so it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2456">TS</a>]

00:40:59 ◼   ► makes sense to me and I like the idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2459">TS</a>]

00:41:00 ◼   ► that it's that you know she's she's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2460">TS</a>]

00:41:02 ◼   ► an individual who runs the Borg she is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2462">TS</a>]

00:41:04 ◼   ► the body that they have created in order [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2464">TS</a>]

00:41:08 ◼   ► to represent the you know the board in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2468">TS</a>]

00:41:11 ◼   ► conversation first first among equals [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2471">TS</a>]

00:41:13 ◼   ► you could say that she's the devil that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2473">TS</a>]

00:41:15 ◼   ► they needed for data in some ways right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2475">TS</a>]

00:41:17 ◼   ► since to tempt data that may be why she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2477">TS</a>]

00:41:19 ◼   ► is there is because they did thats you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2479">TS</a>]

00:41:22 ◼   ► know she's required at that point it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2482">TS</a>]

00:41:24 ◼   ► not like they said it's not like they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2484">TS</a>]

00:41:26 ◼   ► say oh well she's going to start the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2486">TS</a>]

00:41:28 ◼   ► hive here on earth after we kill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2488">TS</a>]

00:41:30 ◼   ► everybody and we've got a whole plan to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2490">TS</a>]

00:41:32 ◼   ► do all of that so don't go into that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2492">TS</a>]

00:41:34 ◼   ► which i really like to just leave it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2494">TS</a>]

00:41:35 ◼   ► it's complicated it's more than three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2495">TS</a>]

00:41:37 ◼   ► dimensional humans wouldn't understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2497">TS</a>]

00:41:40 ◼   ► us and another moment i like is when the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2500">TS</a>]

00:41:42 ◼   ► instructor dish like they get the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2502">TS</a>]

00:41:45 ◼   ► dish off and that plan has stopped and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2505">TS</a>]

00:41:47 ◼   ► there's a moment she looks up and she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2507">TS</a>]

00:41:49 ◼   ► obviously realizes what has happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2509">TS</a>]

00:41:51 ◼   ► because she is the board so she knows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2511">TS</a>]

00:41:52 ◼   ► what everything is going on and she says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2512">TS</a>]

00:41:54 ◼   ► change of plans [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2514">TS</a>]

00:41:55 ◼   ► yeah it's still a villain and and but ya [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2515">TS</a>]

00:41:59 ◼   ► gotta collect villain it's good it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2519">TS</a>]

00:42:01 ◼   ► really good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2521">TS</a>]

00:42:02 ◼   ► Alice creek just good job it's a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2522">TS</a>]

00:42:04 ◼   ► performance and absolutely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2524">TS</a>]

00:42:05 ◼   ► this movie is so well cast you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2525">TS</a>]

00:42:09 ◼   ► is it's it's not nothing against some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2529">TS</a>]

00:42:12 ◼   ► the other castes but everyone even the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2532">TS</a>]

00:42:15 ◼   ► smallest parts are really nicely cast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2535">TS</a>]

00:42:18 ◼   ► and and especially you know Alfre [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2538">TS</a>]

00:42:20 ◼   ► Woodard and James Cromwell and analysis [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2540">TS</a>]

00:42:22 ◼   ► creek [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2542">TS</a>]

00:42:23 ◼   ► come on yeah I know McDonough he dies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2543">TS</a>]

00:42:26 ◼   ► well uh huh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2546">TS</a>]

00:42:29 ◼   ► let's talk about it from Cochrane so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2549">TS</a>]

00:42:31 ◼   ► down on the planet down on earth i keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2551">TS</a>]

00:42:33 ◼   ► calling it the planet but it's earth its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2553">TS</a>]

00:42:34 ◼   ► 21st mid twenty-first century or not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2554">TS</a>]

00:42:37 ◼   ► that far from now we've got a third [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2557">TS</a>]

00:42:39 ◼   ► world war two learn to live through as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2559">TS</a>]

00:42:41 ◼   ► real star trek that late 20th and early [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2561">TS</a>]

00:42:43 ◼   ► 21st century had world war three it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2563">TS</a>]

00:42:45 ◼   ► very bad we survived their eugenics wars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2565">TS</a>]

00:42:47 ◼   ► already so we're doing all right blue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2567">TS</a>]

00:42:49 ◼   ► super soap so down in Montana an old the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2569">TS</a>]

00:42:52 ◼   ► nuclear missile silo Zefram Cochrane who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2572">TS</a>]

00:42:55 ◼   ► is this character who was mentioned and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2575">TS</a>]

00:42:58 ◼   ► shown sort of in his secret post faking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2578">TS</a>]

00:43:01 ◼   ► his death life being a very different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2581">TS</a>]

00:43:04 ◼   ► kind of guy but hey it was a long time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2584">TS</a>]

00:43:06 ◼   ► later but he was always supposed to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2586">TS</a>]

00:43:08 ◼   ► the man who invented the warp drive so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2588">TS</a>]

00:43:09 ◼   ► here we see it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2589">TS</a>]

00:43:10 ◼   ► he is a hard-drinking scientists who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2590">TS</a>]

00:43:12 ◼   ► enjoys rockabilly on a jukebox [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2592">TS</a>]

00:43:14 ◼   ► ok who so sure it so good possibility is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2594">TS</a>]

00:43:18 ◼   ► best on a jukebox i really like his coat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2598">TS</a>]

00:43:21 ◼   ► by the way impactful overall were there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2601">TS</a>]

00:43:24 ◼   ► it's a giant winner for me especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2604">TS</a>]

00:43:26 ◼   ► compared to Picard space cardigan which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2606">TS</a>]

00:43:28 ◼   ► I find pretty lame yeah he's got a job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2608">TS</a>]

00:43:30 ◼   ► he's got a jug head hat yeah I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2610">TS</a>]

00:43:33 ◼   ► Picard's 21st century earth outfit the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2613">TS</a>]

00:43:35 ◼   ► pants those pants are amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2615">TS</a>]

00:43:38 ◼   ► yeah so that we get different conference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2618">TS</a>]

00:43:40 ◼   ► down here and he's a and he's we meet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2620">TS</a>]

00:43:44 ◼   ► him and he's without talking to Lily but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2624">TS</a>]

00:43:46 ◼   ► then there's a there's an attack and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2626">TS</a>]

00:43:49 ◼   ► by the Borg and and lily has to be taken [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2629">TS</a>]

00:43:51 ◼   ► back to the ship so Cochran is down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2631">TS</a>]

00:43:53 ◼   ► there essentially with Ryker and Troy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2633">TS</a>]

00:43:55 ◼   ► and then an engineering team that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2635">TS</a>]

00:43:58 ◼   ► going to help fix the damage to his ship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2638">TS</a>]

00:44:00 ◼   ► so that he can take off the next day and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2640">TS</a>]

00:44:02 ◼   ► that's that's the you could see that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2642">TS</a>]

00:44:04 ◼   ► kind of story line right where there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2644">TS</a>]

00:44:06 ◼   ► there's a technical store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2646">TS</a>]

00:44:09 ◼   ► about fixing the ship one of the things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2649">TS</a>]

00:44:10 ◼   ► that this movie does so well is that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2650">TS</a>]

00:44:13 ◼   ► not what this whole segment is about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2653">TS</a>]

00:44:15 ◼   ► it's about Zefram Cochrane is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2655">TS</a>]

00:44:16 ◼   ► character which first off kind of a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2656">TS</a>]

00:44:18 ◼   ► deal for star trek movie to spend so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2658">TS</a>]

00:44:19 ◼   ► much time on a character arc of somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2659">TS</a>]

00:44:21 ◼   ► who's not one of the seven regular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2661">TS</a>]

00:44:23 ◼   ► characters but it's really good because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2663">TS</a>]

00:44:26 ◼   ► it's what somebody told you that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2666">TS</a>]

00:44:28 ◼   ► were one of the most famous people in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2668">TS</a>]

00:44:29 ◼   ► history and what you're about to do is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2669">TS</a>]

00:44:31 ◼   ► going to change everything and then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2671">TS</a>]

00:44:32 ◼   ► feel the weight of history pressing down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2672">TS</a>]

00:44:35 ◼   ► on you and that's what happens to that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2675">TS</a>]

00:44:37 ◼   ► from cochran here they're funny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2677">TS</a>]

00:44:39 ◼   ► there's there's a lot of funny stuff too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2679">TS</a>]

00:44:40 ◼   ► i really like the stuff with Ryker and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2680">TS</a>]

00:44:43 ◼   ► Troy I feel like jonathan frakes is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2683">TS</a>]

00:44:45 ◼   ► never better as Ryker than he is in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2685">TS</a>]

00:44:47 ◼   ► scene where he finds droid drunk at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2687">TS</a>]

00:44:49 ◼   ► bar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2689">TS</a>]

00:44:49 ◼   ► yep that was a great sea mile to smell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2689">TS</a>]

00:44:52 ◼   ► you just smile on his face but the smile [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2692">TS</a>]

00:44:54 ◼   ► in his eyes is perfect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2694">TS</a>]

00:44:56 ◼   ► yeah LeVar Burton gets to go full [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2696">TS</a>]

00:44:57 ◼   ► reading rainbow at one point statue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2697">TS</a>]

00:45:00 ◼   ► yes don't take my word for it he's got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2700">TS</a>]

00:45:03 ◼   ► very specific like diction and cadence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2703">TS</a>]

00:45:05 ◼   ► there and I kept thinking of my cats are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2705">TS</a>]

00:45:07 ◼   ► reading rainbow episode but mine own for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2707">TS</a>]

00:45:08 ◼   ► this part mainly just reads don't meet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2708">TS</a>]

00:45:10 ◼   ► your heroes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2710">TS</a>]

00:45:11 ◼   ► yeah I do love the part with Georgie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2711">TS</a>]

00:45:14 ◼   ► says I probably shouldn't tell you this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2714">TS</a>]

00:45:15 ◼   ► but I went to separate cock again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2715">TS</a>]

00:45:17 ◼   ► yeah well there's that moment later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2717">TS</a>]

00:45:21 ◼   ► where Riker says to Jordi you told him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2721">TS</a>]

00:45:24 ◼   ► about the Statue Like don't just because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2724">TS</a>]

00:45:28 ◼   ► he's really runs off at one point and is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2728">TS</a>]

00:45:30 ◼   ► drinking in the in the wilderness and is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2730">TS</a>]

00:45:32 ◼   ► going to try to hide from them because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2732">TS</a>]

00:45:33 ◼   ► you just can't take it anymore Barkley [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2733">TS</a>]

00:45:35 ◼   ► of course once his autograph essentially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2735">TS</a>]

00:45:37 ◼   ► but i really like that that he is not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2737">TS</a>]

00:45:40 ◼   ► he's kind of a strange guy who's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2740">TS</a>]

00:45:42 ◼   ► building a spaceship out of a nuclear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2742">TS</a>]

00:45:44 ◼   ► missile complex on his own he's figured [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2744">TS</a>]

00:45:45 ◼   ► out warp drive and it's fine when it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2745">TS</a>]

00:45:48 ◼   ► just him and his friends messing around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2748">TS</a>]

00:45:49 ◼   ► trying to build this thing but then when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2749">TS</a>]

00:45:52 ◼   ► he when he sees the history of it he has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2752">TS</a>]

00:45:55 ◼   ► a hard time living up to it and I just I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2755">TS</a>]

00:45:57 ◼   ► really enjoy all of these parts i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2757">TS</a>]

00:45:59 ◼   ► james cromwell does a great job with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2759">TS</a>]

00:46:00 ◼   ► this character and I and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2760">TS</a>]

00:46:03 ◼   ► there's a funny moment when they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2763">TS</a>]

00:46:05 ◼   ► launched and he and then there were they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2765">TS</a>]

00:46:06 ◼   ► have to abort the launch because he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2766">TS</a>]

00:46:07 ◼   ► can't find it the thing that's important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2767">TS</a>]

00:46:09 ◼   ► it's because he wants to play magic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2769">TS</a>]

00:46:10 ◼   ► carpet ride while they launched into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2770">TS</a>]

00:46:12 ◼   ► space office sony minidisc it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2772">TS</a>]

00:46:14 ◼   ► quite of the Beastie Boys roughly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2774">TS</a>]

00:46:17 ◼   ► one haha what I like about it is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2777">TS</a>]

00:46:21 ◼   ► after we've spent this too much time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2781">TS</a>]

00:46:23 ◼   ► with Ephram Cochran do we really doubt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2783">TS</a>]

00:46:25 ◼   ► that he's got a song picked out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2785">TS</a>]

00:46:27 ◼   ► I don't ya i believe it yeah and James [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2787">TS</a>]

00:46:30 ◼   ► Cromwell is one of those actors i grew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2790">TS</a>]

00:46:32 ◼   ► up watching him and he you know he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2792">TS</a>]

00:46:34 ◼   ► one of those it's that guy in you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2794">TS</a>]

00:46:36 ◼   ► he was stretch Cunningham on all in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2796">TS</a>]

00:46:38 ◼   ► family he was on places like five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2798">TS</a>]

00:46:40 ◼   ► different people on Barney Miller and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2800">TS</a>]

00:46:41 ◼   ► really until he was in babe know he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2801">TS</a>]

00:46:44 ◼   ► just hey it's that guy right yeah babe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2804">TS</a>]

00:46:46 ◼   ► and LA confidential and then I think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2806">TS</a>]

00:46:48 ◼   ► Joe link to the the roger ebert review [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2808">TS</a>]

00:46:51 ◼   ► of first contact which wich dread which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2811">TS</a>]

00:46:54 ◼   ► calls from james caldwell the tall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2814">TS</a>]

00:46:56 ◼   ► farmer from babe and I was like yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2816">TS</a>]

00:46:57 ◼   ► that's also where that you're arguing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2817">TS</a>]

00:46:59 ◼   ► but I was like you know he's just this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2819">TS</a>]

00:47:03 ◼   ► funny guy who appears on 76 comes and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2823">TS</a>]

00:47:07 ◼   ► and oh he's so good in this and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2827">TS</a>]

00:47:10 ◼   ► comedy scenes on earth especially with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2830">TS</a>]

00:47:13 ◼   ► Zefram Cochrane interacting with all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2833">TS</a>]

00:47:15 ◼   ► the other cast and crew we we get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2835">TS</a>]

00:47:17 ◼   ► history if you don't figure out that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2837">TS</a>]

00:47:19 ◼   ► familiar star trek but you also get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2839">TS</a>]

00:47:21 ◼   ► moment to release some of the tension [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2841">TS</a>]

00:47:23 ◼   ► that builds up in the action scenes that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2843">TS</a>]

00:47:25 ◼   ► are happening on the enterprise whenever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2845">TS</a>]

00:47:26 ◼   ► we cut back to this weekend we can sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2846">TS</a>]

00:47:28 ◼   ► of like reset a little and come back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2848">TS</a>]

00:47:30 ◼   ► down and then we can go back to that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2850">TS</a>]

00:47:32 ◼   ► the actions can start to build up again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2852">TS</a>]

00:47:33 ◼   ► which is something that doesn't happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2853">TS</a>]

00:47:35 ◼   ► very often where you're just sleeping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2855">TS</a>]

00:47:37 ◼   ► from 10 gravity scene to another zero [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2857">TS</a>]

00:47:39 ◼   ► gravity scene and backhoe along the you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2859">TS</a>]

00:47:42 ◼   ► know gravity current any thing towards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2862">TS</a>]

00:47:44 ◼   ► the thing to release the switch to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2864">TS</a>]

00:47:46 ◼   ► levers or whatever so there's there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2866">TS</a>]

00:47:48 ◼   ► there's none of the it having this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2868">TS</a>]

00:47:51 ◼   ► comedy helps the story structurally too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2871">TS</a>]

00:47:54 ◼   ► because you can you can sort of relax [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2874">TS</a>]

00:47:57 ◼   ► and then get comfortable again it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2877">TS</a>]

00:47:59 ◼   ► just a constant barrage of of action p [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2879">TS</a>]

00:48:02 ◼   ► so over action piece yet again again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2882">TS</a>]

00:48:04 ◼   ► it's that balance and economy they they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2884">TS</a>]

00:48:06 ◼   ► trust the audience to go with them they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2886">TS</a>]

00:48:09 ◼   ► trust the audience not to explain so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2889">TS</a>]

00:48:11 ◼   ► many things and it's delightful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2891">TS</a>]

00:48:14 ◼   ► I think that it's a good use I I praised [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2894">TS</a>]

00:48:16 ◼   ► jonathan frakes performance directing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2896">TS</a>]

00:48:17 ◼   ► himself here but i think given how much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2897">TS</a>]

00:48:19 ◼   ► time he spent with marina sirtis i'm in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2899">TS</a>]

00:48:22 ◼   ► making the original next-generation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2902">TS</a>]

00:48:24 ◼   ► series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2904">TS</a>]

00:48:25 ◼   ► she's good here too and i'm not a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2905">TS</a>]

00:48:27 ◼   ► fan of Troy but I think that she this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2907">TS</a>]

00:48:30 ◼   ► the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2910">TS</a>]

00:48:30 ◼   ► Troy that she is you know they should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2910">TS</a>]

00:48:34 ◼   ► yeah she's got funny drunk things which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2914">TS</a>]

00:48:36 ◼   ► you know what records you're drunk it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2916">TS</a>]

00:48:38 ◼   ► like she's so drunk what you should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2918">TS</a>]

00:48:40 ◼   ► never say it but IM not what why does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2920">TS</a>]

00:48:44 ◼   ► she have that job it's like she knows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2924">TS</a>]

00:48:45 ◼   ► people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2925">TS</a>]

00:48:46 ◼   ► she's like she's like she's a counselor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2926">TS</a>]

00:48:48 ◼   ► she knows people she's the one you send [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2928">TS</a>]

00:48:50 ◼   ► in there to talk to this guy and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2930">TS</a>]

00:48:51 ◼   ► like all of her scenes i think are very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2931">TS</a>]

00:48:53 ◼   ► good and i'm not a fan of Troy and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2933">TS</a>]

00:48:56 ◼   ► next generation very much I i think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2936">TS</a>]

00:48:58 ◼   ► she was badly used but here she really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2938">TS</a>]

00:49:01 ◼   ► gets room to shine and I think she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2941">TS</a>]

00:49:02 ◼   ► really good i think with our Burton is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2942">TS</a>]

00:49:04 ◼   ► good here because what we're seeing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2944">TS</a>]

00:49:06 ◼   ► already doing his job right he's like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2946">TS</a>]

00:49:08 ◼   ► get to fix the ship that I learned about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2948">TS</a>]

00:49:10 ◼   ► in school that's awesome and he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2950">TS</a>]

00:49:12 ◼   ► instructing engineers to do all this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2952">TS</a>]

00:49:14 ◼   ► stuff and that's good too i love Georgie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2954">TS</a>]

00:49:16 ◼   ► is one of my favorite characters I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2956">TS</a>]

00:49:17 ◼   ► like he gets ill served a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2957">TS</a>]

00:49:19 ◼   ► next-generation episodes and this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2959">TS</a>]

00:49:20 ◼   ► really good use of him Troy as well I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2960">TS</a>]

00:49:23 ◼   ► like you i'm not a huge fan of her but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2963">TS</a>]

00:49:25 ◼   ► I think she does really well here we see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2965">TS</a>]

00:49:26 ◼   ► the chemistry between her and Riker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2966">TS</a>]

00:49:28 ◼   ► which a lot of times we had told about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2968">TS</a>]

00:49:30 ◼   ► but don't necessarily experience or its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2970">TS</a>]

00:49:32 ◼   ► melodramatic and over-the-top where is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2972">TS</a>]

00:49:34 ◼   ► this one seems like oh yeah these are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2974">TS</a>]

00:49:36 ◼   ► too long friends / sometimes partners [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2976">TS</a>]

00:49:39 ◼   ► who you know clearly have a rapport with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2979">TS</a>]

00:49:42 ◼   ► each other and and I think even the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2982">TS</a>]

00:49:44 ◼   ► drunk thing is funny to me because i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2984">TS</a>]

00:49:45 ◼   ► remember watching this as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2985">TS</a>]

00:49:46 ◼   ► sixteen-year-old and thinking wow one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2986">TS</a>]

00:49:50 ◼   ► the the next generation career is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2990">TS</a>]

00:49:51 ◼   ► getting drunk this is so like so wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2991">TS</a>]

00:49:55 ◼   ► it feels like so weird that he'd like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2995">TS</a>]

00:49:57 ◼   ► yeah scandalous good work well gene was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2997">TS</a>]

00:49:59 ◼   ► dead by then so it's okay huh what else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2999">TS</a>]

00:50:01 ◼   ► to talk about here I I don't have a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3001">TS</a>]

00:50:03 ◼   ► of other notes these are the three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3003">TS</a>]

00:50:05 ◼   ► these are the three categories i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3005">TS</a>]

00:50:07 ◼   ► at the end when the stories come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3007">TS</a>]

00:50:08 ◼   ► together is pretty good we see the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3008">TS</a>]

00:50:09 ◼   ► shadow of this of the enterprise-e on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3009">TS</a>]

00:50:13 ◼   ► the controls on the Phoenix which is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3013">TS</a>]

00:50:15 ◼   ► warp ship and they say oh I'm sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3015">TS</a>]

00:50:17 ◼   ► they're just here just give us a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3017">TS</a>]

00:50:19 ◼   ► send-off but meanwhile data is targeting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3019">TS</a>]

00:50:20 ◼   ► them with quantum torpedoes and it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3020">TS</a>]

00:50:22 ◼   ► it's a very exciting moment and and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3022">TS</a>]

00:50:26 ◼   ► we discover of course data isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3026">TS</a>]

00:50:27 ◼   ► betraying them he's gonna he's gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3027">TS</a>]

00:50:30 ◼   ► miss they're gonna make their work jump [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3030">TS</a>]

00:50:32 ◼   ► and i will say maybe having a volatile [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3032">TS</a>]

00:50:37 ◼   ► material that will destroy all organic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3037">TS</a>]

00:50:39 ◼   ► material one bump from of a phaser rifle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3039">TS</a>]

00:50:43 ◼   ► away from killing everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3043">TS</a>]

00:50:44 ◼   ► engineering might be a design flaw but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3044">TS</a>]

00:50:46 ◼   ► it's good that it was a rise though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3046">TS</a>]

00:50:48 ◼   ► right like it doesn't go up that's nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3048">TS</a>]

00:50:49 ◼   ► it's very heavy out on the floor the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3049">TS</a>]

00:50:51 ◼   ► advantage of using some really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3051">TS</a>]

00:50:53 ◼   ► questionable nineties cg volumetric [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3053">TS</a>]

00:50:56 ◼   ► stuff i mean i think about just rates [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3056">TS</a>]

00:50:59 ◼   ► i'm not even sure this billion metric [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3059">TS</a>]

00:51:00 ◼   ► baby it looks it looks decidedly not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3060">TS</a>]

00:51:03 ◼   ► realistic in any capacity that's not yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3063">TS</a>]

00:51:06 ◼   ► I i had a couple random notes one which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3066">TS</a>]

00:51:08 ◼   ► was i love when Riker tries to explain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3068">TS</a>]

00:51:10 ◼   ► the cochrane you know in cochrane sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3070">TS</a>]

00:51:12 ◼   ► of repeats back to Mikey ok this is what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3072">TS</a>]

00:51:14 ◼   ► you're telling me there's a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3074">TS</a>]

00:51:16 ◼   ► like robots from the future trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3076">TS</a>]

00:51:18 ◼   ► come back and stop it's like he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3078">TS</a>]

00:51:19 ◼   ► literally just described terminator [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3079">TS</a>]

00:51:21 ◼   ► terminator [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3081">TS</a>]

00:51:22 ◼   ► well did you see the board queen at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3082">TS</a>]

00:51:23 ◼   ► end she's the Terminator yes you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3083">TS</a>]

00:51:26 ◼   ► she is determine areas is exactly i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3086">TS</a>]

00:51:28 ◼   ► very terminator head written in my notes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3088">TS</a>]

00:51:30 ◼   ► as well I also that Jonathan Franks must [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3090">TS</a>]

00:51:32 ◼   ► have a kink in his neck from looking up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3092">TS</a>]

00:51:34 ◼   ► the child james cromwell for this entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3094">TS</a>]

00:51:36 ◼   ► about it and he's a big man hands and oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3096">TS</a>]

00:51:40 ◼   ► yeah Patrick Stewart super-ripped good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3100">TS</a>]

00:51:42 ◼   ► for Patrick Stewart isn't it is it kinda [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3102">TS</a>]

00:51:46 ◼   ► depressing to think that like I i wish i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3106">TS</a>]

00:51:48 ◼   ► could like told myself in you Nadine I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3108">TS</a>]

00:51:51 ◼   ► 60 i saw this so like Brianna every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3111">TS</a>]

00:51:53 ◼   ► single star trek movie see from here on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3113">TS</a>]

00:51:55 ◼   ► out it's not gonna be as good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3115">TS</a>]

00:51:57 ◼   ► like that's really depressing click [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3117">TS</a>]

00:52:00 ◼   ► 2009.com despite you know I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3120">TS</a>]

00:52:04 ◼   ► we've had a truly great star trek movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3124">TS</a>]

00:52:05 ◼   ► since then and i would like to say a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3125">TS</a>]

00:52:08 ◼   ► samplin i wanted to mention the music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3128">TS</a>]

00:52:11 ◼   ► for a minute because this is jerry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3131">TS</a>]

00:52:12 ◼   ► goldsmith working on with his son Joel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3132">TS</a>]

00:52:15 ◼   ► and what I love about it is of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3135">TS</a>]

00:52:17 ◼   ► Jerry Goldsmith did the next generation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3137">TS</a>]

00:52:19 ◼   ► theme when it was the Star Trek the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3139">TS</a>]

00:52:21 ◼   ► motion picture theme and so we get that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3141">TS</a>]

00:52:23 ◼   ► here and I like that it's sort of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3143">TS</a>]

00:52:25 ◼   ► the night a nice uniting of the guy who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3145">TS</a>]

00:52:28 ◼   ► wrote the music for the show and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3148">TS</a>]

00:52:30 ◼   ► people who are actually from that show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3150">TS</a>]

00:52:32 ◼   ► y'all together the motion picture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3152">TS</a>]

00:52:34 ◼   ► Klingon theme for world's great and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3154">TS</a>]

00:52:39 ◼   ► first contact theme is fantastic i found [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3159">TS</a>]

00:52:41 ◼   ► myself wandering around just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3161">TS</a>]

00:52:42 ◼   ► whistling it's from myself after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3162">TS</a>]

00:52:44 ◼   ► watching the movie and there's a nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3164">TS</a>]

00:52:45 ◼   ► board theme to which is that when it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3165">TS</a>]

00:52:47 ◼   ► almost like the 2001 notes in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3167">TS</a>]

00:52:50 ◼   ► different weird different key with some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3170">TS</a>]

00:52:52 ◼   ► weird electronic on top of it but we see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3172">TS</a>]

00:52:54 ◼   ► we hear that when the board up here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3174">TS</a>]

00:52:57 ◼   ► throughout so I I really actually like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3177">TS</a>]

00:52:58 ◼   ► the score a lot because of the nostalgia [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3178">TS</a>]

00:53:00 ◼   ► and also because of the original stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3180">TS</a>]

00:53:03 ◼   ► that's in the movie I think it's pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3183">TS</a>]

00:53:04 ◼   ► good i mean there's a reason Goldsmith [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3184">TS</a>]

00:53:05 ◼   ► is a legend I mean I wouldn't rip this a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3185">TS</a>]

00:53:08 ◼   ► couple days ago to listen to it again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3188">TS</a>]

00:53:09 ◼   ► because i own a CD of it from from 1996 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3189">TS</a>]

00:53:12 ◼   ► which is the only place you can get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3192">TS</a>]

00:53:14 ◼   ► CDC's days and it's really it's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3194">TS</a>]

00:53:18 ◼   ► it's it's great it's a great score i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3198">TS</a>]

00:53:20 ◼   ► wish there I which I there were more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3200">TS</a>]

00:53:21 ◼   ► cues on the soundtrack but it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3201">TS</a>]

00:53:24 ◼   ► really solid and goldsmith does elevate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3204">TS</a>]

00:53:26 ◼   ► this in a way that a lot of the you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3206">TS</a>]

00:53:28 ◼   ► the TV stuff it's very different writing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3208">TS</a>]

00:53:30 ◼   ► music for you know 7 Series is 7 seasons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3210">TS</a>]

00:53:33 ◼   ► of a TV show than it is for writing for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3213">TS</a>]

00:53:35 ◼   ► a feature film and you know Jerry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3215">TS</a>]

00:53:37 ◼   ► Goldsmith once again displays why he is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3217">TS</a>]

00:53:38 ◼   ► an amazing amazing score [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3218">TS</a>]

00:53:41 ◼   ► yeah I think that's also one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3221">TS</a>]

00:53:42 ◼   ► things that for me kind of hurt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3222">TS</a>]

00:53:44 ◼   ► generations is this score by Dennis [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3224">TS</a>]

00:53:47 ◼   ► McCarthy does not have the very familiar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3227">TS</a>]

00:53:51 ◼   ► theme that you heard in every single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3231">TS</a>]

00:53:53 ◼   ► opening of every single star trek the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3233">TS</a>]

00:53:55 ◼   ► next generation episode so that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3235">TS</a>]

00:53:58 ◼   ► that theme from the original motion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3238">TS</a>]

00:54:00 ◼   ► picture was completely absent from that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3240">TS</a>]

00:54:03 ◼   ► that episode I'm sorry that movie from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3243">TS</a>]

00:54:06 ◼   ► fellow it's kind of an episode last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3246">TS</a>]

00:54:07 ◼   ► episode you update the but this movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3247">TS</a>]

00:54:10 ◼   ► has it and he would go on to score all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3250">TS</a>]

00:54:14 ◼   ► of the remaining next-generation movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3254">TS</a>]

00:54:16 ◼   ► all three of these and i have to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3256">TS</a>]

00:54:19 ◼   ► that first contact is my favorite of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3259">TS</a>]

00:54:21 ◼   ► them there are some action cues that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3261">TS</a>]

00:54:23 ◼   ► like an insurrection but this one really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3263">TS</a>]

00:54:26 ◼   ► holds together very well and is quite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3266">TS</a>]

00:54:30 ◼   ► possibly my favorite of the three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3270">TS</a>]

00:54:32 ◼   ► nemesis is just like a disaster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3272">TS</a>]

00:54:35 ◼   ► unfortunately in all levels yeah I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3275">TS</a>]

00:54:39 ◼   ► think he was probably given some bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3279">TS</a>]

00:54:41 ◼   ► direction by the director or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3281">TS</a>]

00:54:43 ◼   ► but that soundtrack they all were great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3283">TS</a>]

00:54:46 ◼   ► but there's no aspect of that movie that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3286">TS</a>]

00:54:49 ◼   ► wasn't a bad direction but the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3289">TS</a>]

00:54:51 ◼   ► that's one of the things that I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3291">TS</a>]

00:54:53 ◼   ► love about first contact and I've lost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3293">TS</a>]

00:54:55 ◼   ► my original CD so i cant i cant a boot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3295">TS</a>]

00:54:58 ◼   ► up a nineties operating system to access [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3298">TS</a>]

00:55:00 ◼   ► the digital extras that are still on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3300">TS</a>]

00:55:01 ◼   ► so I'm gonna go around the panel and ask [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3301">TS</a>]

00:55:04 ◼   ► for some sort of final thoughts over all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3304">TS</a>]

00:55:07 ◼   ► about how you feel about first contact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3307">TS</a>]

00:55:09 ◼   ► and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3309">TS</a>]

00:55:10 ◼   ► the top the hard question which is where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3310">TS</a>]

00:55:12 ◼   ► does it rank where does it rank in Star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3312">TS</a>]

00:55:14 ◼   ► Trek movies where would you where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3314">TS</a>]

00:55:16 ◼   ► put it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3316">TS</a>]

00:55:17 ◼   ► I'm curious about that so let me start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3317">TS</a>]

00:55:20 ◼   ► with with bri since she sort of started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3320">TS</a>]

00:55:22 ◼   ► down this path and saying that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3322">TS</a>]

00:55:24 ◼   ► haven't seen its like since we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3324">TS</a>]

00:55:26 ◼   ► bringing overall thoughts about first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3326">TS</a>]

00:55:28 ◼   ► contact and where would you rank it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3328">TS</a>]

00:55:30 ◼   ► well i think it's it's a third as second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3330">TS</a>]

00:55:32 ◼   ► best Star Trek movie right like wrath of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3332">TS</a>]

00:55:34 ◼   ► khan is definitely the best one that has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3334">TS</a>]

00:55:37 ◼   ► the best merit I think the shot really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3337">TS</a>]

00:55:40 ◼   ► pulled it together that filling really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3340">TS</a>]

00:55:42 ◼   ► delivered extremely powerful performance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3342">TS</a>]

00:55:45 ◼   ► but you know I i think this is a movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3345">TS</a>]

00:55:48 ◼   ► it really comes close [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3348">TS</a>]

00:55:50 ◼   ► I really really close and think it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3350">TS</a>]

00:55:52 ◼   ► the best moment that you know generation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3352">TS</a>]

00:55:55 ◼   ► on the next generation staff had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3355">TS</a>]

00:55:57 ◼   ► together so I i guess i would say I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3357">TS</a>]

00:56:01 ◼   ► always watch this movie and I am a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3361">TS</a>]

00:56:04 ◼   ► little bit sad because this was a time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3364">TS</a>]

00:56:06 ◼   ► period where we were talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3366">TS</a>]

00:56:08 ◼   ► perhaps getting you avoid movie made and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3368">TS</a>]

00:56:12 ◼   ► wasn't really clear where your broom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3372">TS</a>]

00:56:14 ◼   ► we're going to go after a next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3374">TS</a>]

00:56:16 ◼   ► generation had their shot and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3376">TS</a>]

00:56:19 ◼   ► like you guys are laughing at the doctor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3379">TS</a>]

00:56:21 ◼   ► and your Janeway small cameo but to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3381">TS</a>]

00:56:23 ◼   ► it's like um I don't know like this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3383">TS</a>]

00:56:26 ◼   ► the one the last chance that we we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3386">TS</a>]

00:56:28 ◼   ► really had to see that crew on the big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3388">TS</a>]

00:56:31 ◼   ► screen and we never did so it's always a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3391">TS</a>]

00:56:33 ◼   ► little bittersweet for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3393">TS</a>]

00:56:34 ◼   ► so what about you where where does this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3394">TS</a>]

00:56:36 ◼   ► movie rank overall and what are your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3396">TS</a>]

00:56:38 ◼   ► overall thoughts about it i love this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3398">TS</a>]

00:56:39 ◼   ► movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3399">TS</a>]

00:56:40 ◼   ► I have a hard time ranking it exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3400">TS</a>]

00:56:44 ◼   ► with everything a kind of toss it back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3404">TS</a>]

00:56:47 ◼   ► and forth between a couple because i do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3407">TS</a>]

00:56:51 ◼   ► think that wrath of khan is my favorite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3411">TS</a>]

00:56:53 ◼   ► but II there are some things about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3413">TS</a>]

00:56:56 ◼   ► there in terms of filmmaking our little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3416">TS</a>]

00:56:58 ◼   ► dated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3418">TS</a>]

00:56:59 ◼   ► unfortunately I i still love it so no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3419">TS</a>]

00:57:02 ◼   ► one sent me an angry letter by the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3422">TS</a>]

00:57:05 ◼   ► kind of goes for structure for which I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3425">TS</a>]

00:57:07 ◼   ► also love i also love the movie star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3427">TS</a>]

00:57:10 ◼   ► trek six I really do love a lot but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3430">TS</a>]

00:57:13 ◼   ► think first contact might be above [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3433">TS</a>]

00:57:14 ◼   ► either six or voyage home depending on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3434">TS</a>]

00:57:19 ◼   ► my mood but that's that's where I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3439">TS</a>]

00:57:22 ◼   ► would rank them and I I think this might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3442">TS</a>]

00:57:24 ◼   ► be definitely the most cinematic version [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3444">TS</a>]

00:57:29 ◼   ► of the next generation you're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3449">TS</a>]

00:57:30 ◼   ► see it is on the big screen for four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3450">TS</a>]

00:57:33 ◼   ► movies but this is this is the movie of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3453">TS</a>]

00:57:36 ◼   ► this cast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3456">TS</a>]

00:57:37 ◼   ► jamel what do you want your overall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3457">TS</a>]

00:57:39 ◼   ► thought about this and where do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3459">TS</a>]

00:57:40 ◼   ► slotted in the cannon so I think I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3460">TS</a>]

00:57:43 ◼   ► think it may be on the younger and of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3463">TS</a>]

00:57:45 ◼   ► the group here and the next generation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3465">TS</a>]

00:57:47 ◼   ► as a series very much like my track it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3467">TS</a>]

00:57:51 ◼   ► to track i grew up watching with my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3471">TS</a>]

00:57:53 ◼   ► family and the next generation and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3473">TS</a>]

00:57:55 ◼   ► first contact has a sort of special [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3475">TS</a>]

00:57:58 ◼   ► place in my in my movie viewing life is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3478">TS</a>]

00:58:03 ◼   ► rid of the movie is Allah knows a kid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3483">TS</a>]

00:58:05 ◼   ► and still you know pretty important to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3485">TS</a>]

00:58:07 ◼   ► me and i love it on this very kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3487">TS</a>]

00:58:10 ◼   ► emotional level and it is one of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3490">TS</a>]

00:58:14 ◼   ► favorite tracks I i think i would place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3494">TS</a>]

00:58:16 ◼   ► it third with my favorite being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3496">TS</a>]

00:58:19 ◼   ► undiscovered country followed by wrath [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3499">TS</a>]

00:58:23 ◼   ► of khan and then first contact i wanna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3503">TS</a>]

00:58:26 ◼   ► sort of go to something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3506">TS</a>]

00:58:29 ◼   ► Bree said which yet was her her view [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3509">TS</a>]

00:58:35 ◼   ► that mr. of the last great track movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3515">TS</a>]

00:58:40 ◼   ► and every kind of trying to think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3520">TS</a>]

00:58:41 ◼   ► like why that might have been made in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3521">TS</a>]

00:58:44 ◼   ► answer ANSWER have for myself at least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3524">TS</a>]

00:58:46 ◼   ► is that I think it's served after the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3526">TS</a>]

00:58:49 ◼   ► next generation and this may just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3529">TS</a>]

00:58:50 ◼   ► reflect larger trends in Hollywood that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3530">TS</a>]

00:58:54 ◼   ► track movies just became a member [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3534">TS</a>]

00:58:57 ◼   ► no species of action film and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3537">TS</a>]

00:59:00 ◼   ► willing the willingness to kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3540">TS</a>]

00:59:02 ◼   ► approach different kinds of genres [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3542">TS</a>]

00:59:03 ◼   ► within the track world one away right so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3543">TS</a>]

00:59:07 ◼   ► like undiscovered country is basically a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3547">TS</a>]

00:59:10 ◼   ► procedural like that is that's what that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3550">TS</a>]

00:59:12 ◼   ► home is a procedural that happens when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3552">TS</a>]

00:59:14 ◼   ► the trek universe trying to answer a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3554">TS</a>]

00:59:16 ◼   ► central mystery the first contact is I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3556">TS</a>]

00:59:20 ◼   ► think a lot of ways a horror movie with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3560">TS</a>]

00:59:23 ◼   ► the some unit a fish out of water comedy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3563">TS</a>]

00:59:25 ◼   ► thrown in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3565">TS</a>]

00:59:27 ◼   ► to give it some levity but but since [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3567">TS</a>]

00:59:31 ◼   ► then we just happen i don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3571">TS</a>]

00:59:33 ◼   ► there's been a real willingness weather [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3573">TS</a>]

00:59:35 ◼   ► for market reasons or just for you lack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3575">TS</a>]

00:59:37 ◼   ► of creativity to really be used to track [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3577">TS</a>]

00:59:41 ◼   ► as like an umbrella for a you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3581">TS</a>]

00:59:44 ◼   ► exploring these characters in this world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3584">TS</a>]

00:59:46 ◼   ► in in and the using different genres and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3586">TS</a>]

00:59:51 ◼   ► I don't know you're gonna get that back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3591">TS</a>]

00:59:53 ◼   ► and it's sort of why I kind of think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3593">TS</a>]

00:59:55 ◼   ► that the best place for track really is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3595">TS</a>]

00:59:59 ◼   ► television [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3599">TS</a>]

00:59:59 ◼   ► television [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3599">TS</a>]

01:00:00 ◼   ► and I'm not sure yeah I'm not sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3600">TS</a>]

01:00:02 ◼   ► movies ultimately or feature films [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3602">TS</a>]

01:00:05 ◼   ► ultimately all right sure are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3605">TS</a>]

01:00:08 ◼   ► well-suited for what I think makes track [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3608">TS</a>]

01:00:11 ◼   ► track [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3611">TS</a>]

01:00:13 ◼   ► yeah I think there's a lot of truth when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3613">TS</a>]

01:00:14 ◼   ► we talk about that in past episodes to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3614">TS</a>]

01:00:15 ◼   ► that star trek on TV is it is a TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3615">TS</a>]

01:00:18 ◼   ► franchise ultimately and there are some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3618">TS</a>]

01:00:21 ◼   ► good movies too but it it seems to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3621">TS</a>]

01:00:23 ◼   ► the best I did see a story at one point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3623">TS</a>]

01:00:25 ◼   ► about how I mean paramount is basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3625">TS</a>]

01:00:27 ◼   ► in if it wasn't chaos and now it's in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3627">TS</a>]

01:00:30 ◼   ► double chaos given all the ownership [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3630">TS</a>]

01:00:33 ◼   ► issues but I did see a story about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3633">TS</a>]

01:00:36 ◼   ► idea of what it what if they like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3636">TS</a>]

01:00:38 ◼   ► everybody they're like what if we follow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3638">TS</a>]

01:00:40 ◼   ► from Marvel's example and do a a bunch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3640">TS</a>]

01:00:43 ◼   ► of movies in the star trek universe that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3643">TS</a>]

01:00:46 ◼   ► tell different stories and I thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3646">TS</a>]

01:00:47 ◼   ► that might work i don't know if it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3647">TS</a>]

01:00:49 ◼   ► but it might work at least in that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3649">TS</a>]

01:00:51 ◼   ► would have the freedom to not have one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3651">TS</a>]

01:00:53 ◼   ► movie every three years that had to be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3653">TS</a>]

01:00:55 ◼   ► huge action tentpole movie because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3655">TS</a>]

01:00:57 ◼   ► were making a bunch of different smoke [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3657">TS</a>]

01:00:59 ◼   ► maybe a little bit smaller movies in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3659">TS</a>]

01:01:02 ◼   ► corners of the universe but I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3662">TS</a>]

01:01:03 ◼   ► how realistic that is in today's feature [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3663">TS</a>]

01:01:06 ◼   ► film business versus putting it on TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3666">TS</a>]

01:01:08 ◼   ► which is what CBS is doing with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3668">TS</a>]

01:01:10 ◼   ► startling discovery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3670">TS</a>]

01:01:11 ◼   ► Star Trek seems like a perfect fit for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3671">TS</a>]

01:01:13 ◼   ► netflix to me but you know let's move [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3673">TS</a>]

01:01:15 ◼   ► this was his money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3675">TS</a>]

01:01:17 ◼   ► it's netflix and the rest of the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3677">TS</a>]

01:01:19 ◼   ► that makes you feel any better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3679">TS</a>]

01:01:20 ◼   ► yeah it isn't like so everywhere but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3680">TS</a>]

01:01:22 ◼   ► here David what are your overall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3682">TS</a>]

01:01:25 ◼   ► thoughts about first contact and where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3685">TS</a>]

01:01:26 ◼   ► do you rank it I well you know i love it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3686">TS</a>]

01:01:29 ◼   ► when when i saw it it's one of the few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3689">TS</a>]

01:01:31 ◼   ► few movies i saw it twice the opening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3691">TS</a>]

01:01:33 ◼   ► weekend and it i would put it right up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3693">TS</a>]

01:01:38 ◼   ► there with wrath of khan you know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3698">TS</a>]

01:01:40 ◼   ► and only like by a couple of degrees [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3700">TS</a>]

01:01:43 ◼   ► it's like that close for me it's just it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3703">TS</a>]

01:01:48 ◼   ► the story telling us so streamlined and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3708">TS</a>]

01:01:51 ◼   ► so I mean did this is a this is the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3711">TS</a>]

01:01:54 ◼   ► generation firing on all cylinders right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3714">TS</a>]

01:01:56 ◼   ► and I remember walking out of it very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3716">TS</a>]

01:01:59 ◼   ► hopeful for where they were going to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3719">TS</a>]

01:02:01 ◼   ► because they were all still pretty young [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3721">TS</a>]

01:02:04 ◼   ► and you know and I I i know some fans [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3724">TS</a>]

01:02:08 ◼   ► are not crazy about Brandon braga after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3728">TS</a>]

01:02:10 ◼   ► a while but i like Braga and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3730">TS</a>]

01:02:12 ◼   ► or when they're working together I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3732">TS</a>]

01:02:13 ◼   ► forgive them for generations yet to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3733">TS</a>]

01:02:16 ◼   ► the promise of future next-generation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3736">TS</a>]

01:02:19 ◼   ► movies followed up with insurrection and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3739">TS</a>]

01:02:21 ◼   ► everything I was just crushing and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3741">TS</a>]

01:02:24 ◼   ► even you know again just watching it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3744">TS</a>]

01:02:26 ◼   ► recently for this it's the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3746">TS</a>]

01:02:28 ◼   ► excitement it's like I want to see more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3748">TS</a>]

01:02:30 ◼   ► with them doing big things and there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3750">TS</a>]

01:02:34 ◼   ► two other things that I can watch them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3754">TS</a>]

01:02:35 ◼   ► doing big things but i don't watch them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3755">TS</a>]

01:02:36 ◼   ► again and I you know I've said it before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3756">TS</a>]

01:02:39 ◼   ► I kind of like insurrection it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3759">TS</a>]

01:02:43 ◼   ► still it's like maybe mid range for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3763">TS</a>]

01:02:45 ◼   ► you know it's not it's not nemesis God [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3765">TS</a>]

01:02:49 ◼   ► knows but yeah I just I really like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3769">TS</a>]

01:02:53 ◼   ► first contact i love that it allows the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3773">TS</a>]

01:02:55 ◼   ► characters to have dimension that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3775">TS</a>]

01:02:57 ◼   ► don't get to have in any of the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3777">TS</a>]

01:02:58 ◼   ► movies and you get to see them doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3778">TS</a>]

01:03:01 ◼   ► things that they don't do all the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3781">TS</a>]

01:03:04 ◼   ► except maybe Worf because work is worth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3784">TS</a>]

01:03:06 ◼   ► a lot of a lot of bittersweetness when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3786">TS</a>]

01:03:08 ◼   ► we think about what happened after this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3788">TS</a>]

01:03:10 ◼   ► movie it's really sad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3790">TS</a>]

01:03:11 ◼   ► yeah Anna your your final thoughts and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3791">TS</a>]

01:03:14 ◼   ► and ranking for first contact yeah it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3794">TS</a>]

01:03:16 ◼   ► a it's a damn shame that we only got we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3796">TS</a>]

01:03:18 ◼   ► have four movies and we'll only one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3798">TS</a>]

01:03:20 ◼   ► them was like really tremendously good i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3800">TS</a>]

01:03:22 ◼   ► do have a soft spot for generations but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3802">TS</a>]

01:03:23 ◼   ► I you know it's not nearly as good as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3803">TS</a>]

01:03:25 ◼   ► first contact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3805">TS</a>]

01:03:26 ◼   ► yeah I i really like first contact i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3806">TS</a>]

01:03:28 ◼   ► haven't watched it in many years and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3808">TS</a>]

01:03:30 ◼   ► I was kind of trepidatious when I sat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3810">TS</a>]

01:03:32 ◼   ► down to watch it wondering if it held up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3812">TS</a>]

01:03:34 ◼   ► and and by gosh it did I really enjoyed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3814">TS</a>]

01:03:37 ◼   ► that I was not bored for a single moment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3817">TS</a>]

01:03:39 ◼   ► I i really felt very engaged and and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3819">TS</a>]

01:03:43 ◼   ► was zero just as good as i remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3823">TS</a>]

01:03:44 ◼   ► seeing it in the movie theater so I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3824">TS</a>]

01:03:46 ◼   ► good about that although to you know to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3826">TS</a>]

01:03:48 ◼   ► breeze point emails point about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3828">TS</a>]

01:03:49 ◼   ► other as a TV series i think i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3829">TS</a>]

01:03:52 ◼   ► that's there's something to be said for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3832">TS</a>]

01:03:54 ◼   ► that it is really hard i mean the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3834">TS</a>]

01:03:55 ◼   ► nineties worry more the sort of that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3835">TS</a>]

01:03:58 ◼   ► birth of the big blockbuster action [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3838">TS</a>]

01:04:00 ◼   ► movie and as a teenager in that era I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3840">TS</a>]

01:04:03 ◼   ► went and saw a bunch of them some i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3843">TS</a>]

01:04:05 ◼   ► guess i'm part of the problem but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3845">TS</a>]

01:04:07 ◼   ► don't forget about mine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3847">TS</a>]

01:04:08 ◼   ► I never got my ds9 move either so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3848">TS</a>]

01:04:11 ◼   ► know yeah there's that I guess I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3851">TS</a>]

01:04:13 ◼   ► suffered through that as well as far as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3853">TS</a>]

01:04:15 ◼   ► overall ranking I think I probably on in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3855">TS</a>]

01:04:18 ◼   ► club Joe here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3858">TS</a>]

01:04:19 ◼   ► iie it's hard for me to put a ranking on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3859">TS</a>]

01:04:22 ◼   ► them wrath of khan obviously has a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3862">TS</a>]

01:04:25 ◼   ► going for it and is it is a you know a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3865">TS</a>]

01:04:28 ◼   ► technical masterpiece I think like Jim [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3868">TS</a>]

01:04:30 ◼   ► ally I grew up with TNG and and so these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3870">TS</a>]

01:04:33 ◼   ► guys are more like my crew than the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3873">TS</a>]

01:04:35 ◼   ► original series crew was and I certainly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3875">TS</a>]

01:04:38 ◼   ► you know watch a lot more next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3878">TS</a>]

01:04:39 ◼   ► generation before I saw any of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3879">TS</a>]

01:04:41 ◼   ► original series for much of the original [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3881">TS</a>]

01:04:42 ◼   ► series so I I kind of put this up there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3882">TS</a>]

01:04:44 ◼   ► with them but it's also a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3884">TS</a>]

01:04:46 ◼   ► apples and oranges I do love four and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3886">TS</a>]

01:04:49 ◼   ► six just because of their their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3889">TS</a>]

01:04:50 ◼   ► respective nature's for as a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3890">TS</a>]

01:04:53 ◼   ► comedy show piece and six just because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3893">TS</a>]

01:04:56 ◼   ► it's it's a thriller great great you fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3896">TS</a>]

01:04:58 ◼   ► to watch thriller very popcorn me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3898">TS</a>]

01:05:00 ◼   ► without being too ridiculous like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3900">TS</a>]

01:05:02 ◼   ► blockbuster action movie so you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3902">TS</a>]

01:05:05 ◼   ► those are those are I think the four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3905">TS</a>]

01:05:06 ◼   ► star trek movies that i would gladly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3906">TS</a>]

01:05:07 ◼   ► watch it anytime no matter what so I I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3907">TS</a>]

01:05:12 ◼   ► okay putting them all in a little pool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3912">TS</a>]

01:05:13 ◼   ► together right Scott [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3913">TS</a>]

01:05:15 ◼   ► it's down to you now what are your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3915">TS</a>]

01:05:16 ◼   ► thoughts about first contact and where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3916">TS</a>]

01:05:18 ◼   ► rates [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3918">TS</a>]

01:05:18 ◼   ► well I will echo many sentiments I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3918">TS</a>]

01:05:21 ◼   ► love first contact i do hate the opening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3921">TS</a>]

01:05:25 ◼   ► credits though they're so so bland if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3925">TS</a>]

01:05:28 ◼   ► they are awful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3928">TS</a>]

01:05:29 ◼   ► I don't know why there should i had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3929">TS</a>]

01:05:31 ◼   ► note about most generic titles ever I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3931">TS</a>]

01:05:34 ◼   ► sure it's some contractual thing to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3934">TS</a>]

01:05:37 ◼   ► awful opening credits or something but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3937">TS</a>]

01:05:39 ◼   ► just don't like that and it's so sad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3939">TS</a>]

01:05:41 ◼   ► want to write the fun the opening scene [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3941">TS</a>]

01:05:44 ◼   ► is so great but the credits are just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3944">TS</a>]

01:05:46 ◼   ► awful and even that's a the generations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3946">TS</a>]

01:05:49 ◼   ► credits that you are better you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3949">TS</a>]

01:05:51 ◼   ► follow that champagne bottle you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3951">TS</a>]

01:05:53 ◼   ► know how to dance at the beginning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3953">TS</a>]

01:05:54 ◼   ► you're like what the heck of an echo its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3954">TS</a>]

01:05:56 ◼   ► champion anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3956">TS</a>]

01:05:58 ◼   ► clearly his first contact is the third [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3958">TS</a>]

01:06:02 ◼   ► best Star Trek movie but it was no doubt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3962">TS</a>]

01:06:05 ◼   ► about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3965">TS</a>]

01:06:06 ◼   ► wrath of khan uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3966">TS</a>]

01:06:09 ◼   ► the undiscovered country first contact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3969">TS</a>]

01:06:12 ◼   ► probably then star trek for and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3972">TS</a>]

01:06:16 ◼   ► star trek 2009 reboot probably would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3976">TS</a>]

01:06:20 ◼   ► by my rankings beyond oh you put beyond [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3980">TS</a>]

01:06:25 ◼   ► what 2,000 i like it i just destroyed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3985">TS</a>]

01:06:28 ◼   ► micro ok I'm right there with you I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3988">TS</a>]

01:06:30 ◼   ► thought Scott was gonna go left field [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3990">TS</a>]

01:06:33 ◼   ► and say like and then star trek five you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3993">TS</a>]

01:06:34 ◼   ► know your stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3994">TS</a>]

01:06:35 ◼   ► what has gotten into instruction not in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3995">TS</a>]

01:06:37 ◼   ► front of the Klingons yeah but I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3997">TS</a>]

01:06:40 ◼   ► the end and there's just so much that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4000">TS</a>]

01:06:42 ◼   ► like about first contact i can't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4002">TS</a>]

01:06:45 ◼   ► of anything other than the opening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4005">TS</a>]

01:06:47 ◼   ► credits that I don't like about first so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4007">TS</a>]

01:06:50 ◼   ► I mean kudos to everyone involved and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4010">TS</a>]

01:06:53 ◼   ► mean I I you know as everyone said the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4013">TS</a>]

01:06:56 ◼   ► next generation movies afterwards not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4016">TS</a>]

01:06:59 ◼   ► very good i do like generations so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4019">TS</a>]

01:07:03 ◼   ► not nearly as good as first contact but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4023">TS</a>]

01:07:05 ◼   ► i do like it i like seeing William [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4025">TS</a>]

01:07:06 ◼   ► Shatner trucking around on a horse for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4026">TS</a>]

01:07:07 ◼   ► no apparent reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4027">TS</a>]

01:07:09 ◼   ► making eggs eggs looking at a clock you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4029">TS</a>]

01:07:14 ◼   ► know a guy name is in generations since [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4034">TS</a>]

01:07:15 ◼   ► I think it has its moments but uh yeah i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4035">TS</a>]

01:07:20 ◼   ► mean first contact if they would made a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4040">TS</a>]

01:07:23 ◼   ► more first contacts i will just keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4043">TS</a>]

01:07:24 ◼   ► watching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4044">TS</a>]

01:07:25 ◼   ► but sadly i didn't they didn't they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4045">TS</a>]

01:07:28 ◼   ► didn't do that well I i agree with what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4048">TS</a>]

01:07:30 ◼   ► everybody said this is this is a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4050">TS</a>]

01:07:31 ◼   ► movie i was reminded about how great it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4051">TS</a>]

01:07:33 ◼   ► is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4053">TS</a>]

01:07:33 ◼   ► I i love it a lot i think i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4053">TS</a>]

01:07:36 ◼   ► probably say there are only been to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4056">TS</a>]

01:07:38 ◼   ► legitimately great star trek movies and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4058">TS</a>]

01:07:40 ◼   ► that their wrath of khan and first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4060">TS</a>]

01:07:42 ◼   ► contact and when I hear people running [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4062">TS</a>]

01:07:45 ◼   ► down the next generation movies i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4065">TS</a>]

01:07:47 ◼   ► this moment where I'm like you've seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4067">TS</a>]

01:07:50 ◼   ► first contact because it's really good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4070">TS</a>]

01:07:52 ◼   ► like it's a written it's not the wrath [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4072">TS</a>]

01:07:54 ◼   ► of khan being replayed it's a really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4074">TS</a>]

01:07:56 ◼   ► good movie on its own and so I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4076">TS</a>]

01:07:59 ◼   ► those that's number one and revocations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4079">TS</a>]

01:08:01 ◼   ► one of my favorite movies if not my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4081">TS</a>]

01:08:03 ◼   ► favorite movie of all time but first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4083">TS</a>]

01:08:05 ◼   ► contact is I think very clearly in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4085">TS</a>]

01:08:07 ◼   ► same in that same category as a truly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4087">TS</a>]

01:08:10 ◼   ► great star trek movie and then yeah we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4090">TS</a>]

01:08:11 ◼   ► can we can argue about what goes below [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4091">TS</a>]

01:08:13 ◼   ► that I think maybe I put 2009 third but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4093">TS</a>]

01:08:16 ◼   ► yeah you know 20 it's a there so there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4096">TS</a>]

01:08:19 ◼   ► there's there's good charge recognize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4099">TS</a>]

01:08:21 ◼   ► bad Star Trek we've established this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4101">TS</a>]

01:08:22 ◼   ► this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4102">TS</a>]

01:08:23 ◼   ► good Star Trek it's sad what happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4103">TS</a>]

01:08:24 ◼   ► afterward but this is good stuff for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4104">TS</a>]

01:08:27 ◼   ► fact that it makes me really feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4107">TS</a>]

01:08:28 ◼   ► nostalgic for the next generation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4108">TS</a>]

01:08:30 ◼   ► I grew up with original series as a kid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4110">TS</a>]

01:08:32 ◼   ► I don't remember not knowing about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4112">TS</a>]

01:08:33 ◼   ► original Star Trek and the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4113">TS</a>]

01:08:35 ◼   ► generation was the show I became a fan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4115">TS</a>]

01:08:36 ◼   ► of because i wasn't i was a high school [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4116">TS</a>]

01:08:39 ◼   ► and college student when it was on so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4119">TS</a>]

01:08:41 ◼   ► was deep down into my excitement as a as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4121">TS</a>]

01:08:44 ◼   ► a sci-fi fan for next generation and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4124">TS</a>]

01:08:47 ◼   ► see this movie and I think this is how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4127">TS</a>]

01:08:49 ◼   ► great that cast was and how great that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4129">TS</a>]

01:08:51 ◼   ► show was it validates that in a strange [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4131">TS</a>]

01:08:54 ◼   ► way that like the original series got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4134">TS</a>]

01:08:56 ◼   ► these good movies what about the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4136">TS</a>]

01:08:57 ◼   ► generation and hear it here it is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4137">TS</a>]

01:08:59 ◼   ► see what they can do when all the things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4139">TS</a>]

01:09:02 ◼   ► are right see what this casket we also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4142">TS</a>]

01:09:04 ◼   ► got all the we get all the tos reunion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4144">TS</a>]

01:09:07 ◼   ► and like you know them coming back years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4147">TS</a>]

01:09:08 ◼   ► after the show i kinda want the TNG [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4148">TS</a>]

01:09:10 ◼   ► reunion now where they will read my no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4150">TS</a>]

01:09:12 ◼   ► band back together one last time right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4152">TS</a>]

01:09:14 ◼   ► yeah exactly yeah I I don't think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4154">TS</a>]

01:09:17 ◼   ► to be but I would ever know what i want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4157">TS</a>]

01:09:19 ◼   ► i love to see Patrick they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4159">TS</a>]

01:09:20 ◼   ► difficult art one last time with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4160">TS</a>]

01:09:21 ◼   ► great and you know say what you will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4161">TS</a>]

01:09:23 ◼   ► about the first couple of seasons of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4163">TS</a>]

01:09:25 ◼   ► next generation or the first couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4165">TS</a>]

01:09:27 ◼   ► seasons of well any of them up but they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4167">TS</a>]

01:09:30 ◼   ► were all really well cast and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4170">TS</a>]

01:09:33 ◼   ► characters i even in the worst episodes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4173">TS</a>]

01:09:37 ◼   ► the characters were enough to get you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4177">TS</a>]

01:09:38 ◼   ► through sometimes and this is you talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4178">TS</a>]

01:09:40 ◼   ► about the the reunion which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4180">TS</a>]

01:09:42 ◼   ► essentially what those Star Trek movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4182">TS</a>]

01:09:43 ◼   ► were the original Star Trek movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4183">TS</a>]

01:09:45 ◼   ► that's that's actually one of the power [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4185">TS</a>]

01:09:47 ◼   ► powerful things about this is that at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4187">TS</a>]

01:09:49 ◼   ► least this is the team basically at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4189">TS</a>]

01:09:52 ◼   ► top of their game this isn't 15 years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4192">TS</a>]

01:09:55 ◼   ► after they were on tue coming back and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4195">TS</a>]

01:09:58 ◼   ► talking about aging this is the team [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4198">TS</a>]

01:10:00 ◼   ► doing their thing and you can imagine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4200">TS</a>]

01:10:03 ◼   ► that they've been out on missions and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4203">TS</a>]

01:10:05 ◼   ► that enterprise-e for a while now and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4205">TS</a>]

01:10:08 ◼   ► who knows what they were we didn't get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4208">TS</a>]

01:10:09 ◼   ► to see them but uh that's that's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4209">TS</a>]

01:10:12 ◼   ► cool too so it's just it's yeah i love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4212">TS</a>]

01:10:14 ◼   ► it i want to give it a big hug [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4214">TS</a>]

01:10:16 ◼   ► except and I just I get turned into a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4216">TS</a>]

01:10:18 ◼   ► board it would be bad don't know Jason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4218">TS</a>]

01:10:20 ◼   ► don't let them touch you know hole no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4220">TS</a>]

01:10:23 ◼   ► I'll just tell them to assimilate this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4223">TS</a>]

01:10:24 ◼   ► anyway so happy 50th anniversary of Star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4224">TS</a>]

01:10:28 ◼   ► Trek and here's to another 50 and here's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4228">TS</a>]

01:10:30 ◼   ► to a neutron star trek TV series in 2017 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4230">TS</a>]

01:10:33 ◼   ► I think we're all looking forward to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4233">TS</a>]

01:10:35 ◼   ► some star trek on TV maybe where it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4235">TS</a>]

01:10:36 ◼   ► belongs but uh but 50 years what a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4236">TS</a>]

01:10:39 ◼   ► milestone so let me thank my panel for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4239">TS</a>]

01:10:42 ◼   ► coming in and ensuring some happy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4242">TS</a>]

01:10:43 ◼   ► thoughts about a a good movie that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4243">TS</a>]

01:10:45 ◼   ► very good and you should like it and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4245">TS</a>]

01:10:47 ◼   ► should watch it again Dan Morgan thanks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4247">TS</a>]

01:10:49 ◼   ► for being here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4249">TS</a>]

01:10:50 ◼   ► live long and prosper Jason David lure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4250">TS</a>]

01:10:53 ◼   ► thank you thank you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4253">TS</a>]

01:10:55 ◼   ► all I will say is definitely not swedish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4255">TS</a>]

01:10:57 ◼   ► not swedish Scott McNulty you broke your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4257">TS</a>]

01:11:00 ◼   ► little ships I did actually there's one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4260">TS</a>]

01:11:03 ◼   ► of them on my desk that is broken every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4263">TS</a>]

01:11:06 ◼   ► one important lesson that we learned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4266">TS</a>]

01:11:07 ◼   ► from this movie bored have very bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4267">TS</a>]

01:11:09 ◼   ► eyesight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4269">TS</a>]

01:11:10 ◼   ► yeah I just don't care they're really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4270">TS</a>]

01:11:13 ◼   ► just kind of listless and they just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4273">TS</a>]

01:11:15 ◼   ► don't care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4275">TS</a>]

01:11:15 ◼   ► Jamelle Bouie thank you so much for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4275">TS</a>]

01:11:17 ◼   ► being on the incomparable it was great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4277">TS</a>]

01:11:18 ◼   ► to have you i hope we can talk star trek [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4278">TS</a>]

01:11:20 ◼   ► with you again sometime [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4280">TS</a>]

01:11:21 ◼   ► my pleasure today was a good day to talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4281">TS</a>]

01:11:24 ◼   ► about a movie we have someone on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4284">TS</a>]

01:11:28 ◼   ► defiant Adam Scott is pretty guess I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4288">TS</a>]

01:11:30 ◼   ► really right now Rihanna would thank you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4290">TS</a>]

01:11:33 ◼   ► as always in transmission [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4293">TS</a>]

01:11:36 ◼   ► yeah and Joe rosenstiel thank you very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4296">TS</a>]

01:11:39 ◼   ► much for being here i would give you the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4299">TS</a>]

01:11:41 ◼   ► Vulcan salute let's just shake ya and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4301">TS</a>]

01:11:44 ◼   ► everybody out there thanks for listening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4304">TS</a>]

01:11:46 ◼   ► to this episode now if you excuse me I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4306">TS</a>]

01:11:47 ◼   ► have to plug in my jukebox and crank up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4307">TS</a>]

01:11:49 ◼   ► the rockabilly we'll see you next week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4309">TS</a>]

01:11:50 ◼   ► [Music] [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4310">TS</a>]

01:12:05 ◼   ► Ruby [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4325">TS</a>]