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317: You Broke Your Little Ships

 

00:00:00   the Intolerable number 377 temperature [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/0">TS</a>]

00:00:22   welcome back everybody to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/22">TS</a>]

00:00:24   uncomfortable on September ate it is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/24">TS</a>]

00:00:27   50th anniversary of Star Trek and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/27">TS</a>]

00:00:29   didn't want to let that go by without us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/29">TS</a>]

00:00:31   doing an episode about a star trek [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/31">TS</a>]

00:00:32   subject we covered a lot of star trek [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/32">TS</a>]

00:00:34   over the years on the incomparable i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/34">TS</a>]

00:00:36   picked a movie to to talk about that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/36">TS</a>]

00:00:39   one of my favorite Star Trek movies and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/39">TS</a>]

00:00:41   we had an episode about it yet so we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/41">TS</a>]

00:00:43   gonna do it now it is 1996 is star trek [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/43">TS</a>]

00:00:46   first contact for as i keep explaining [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/46">TS</a>]

00:00:49   to everybody who asked me which one that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/49">TS</a>]

00:00:52   is the Borg warden joining me to talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/52">TS</a>]

00:00:55   about the board one is a a a pact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/55">TS</a>]

00:00:59   all-star panel of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/59">TS</a>]

00:01:01   dan morgan hello the line must be drawn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/61">TS</a>]

00:01:03   here Jason know somebody had to say that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/63">TS</a>]

00:01:06   I you your first regatta was back of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/66">TS</a>]

00:01:08   course we like to have her around when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/68">TS</a>]

00:01:10   we talk star trek fire phasers alright [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/70">TS</a>]

00:01:13   David Laura hello [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/73">TS</a>]

00:01:15   the line must be drawn yeah you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/75">TS</a>]

00:01:17   do it with didn't we already did that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/77">TS</a>]

00:01:20   Joe rosenstiel is here yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/80">TS</a>]

00:01:23   yes this far no further as many thank [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/83">TS</a>]

00:01:26   you Scott McNulty proprietor of random [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/86">TS</a>]

00:01:28   tracking another Star Trek fan that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/88">TS</a>]

00:01:31   like to have on these high it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/91">TS</a>]

00:01:33   we're on some kind of star trek mm your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/93">TS</a>]

00:01:37   astronauts on a Star Trek of some sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/97">TS</a>]

00:01:39   and he has never been on the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/99">TS</a>]

00:01:41   uncomfortable for buddy was on random [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/101">TS</a>]

00:01:43   track and I'm very happy to have him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/103">TS</a>]

00:01:44   with us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/104">TS</a>]

00:01:44   it's jamehl Bowie hello hello I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/104">TS</a>]

00:01:47   have a quotation from the movie but that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/107">TS</a>]

00:01:51   makes you better than all of us it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/111">TS</a>]

00:01:52   about that Adam Adam Scott on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/112">TS</a>]

00:01:55   defiant being like they're hailing us or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/115">TS</a>]

00:01:57   whatever it's taking a nice I relief [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/117">TS</a>]

00:02:01   when his bosses they don't have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/121">TS</a>]

00:02:02   commit suicide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/122">TS</a>]

00:02:04   yeah that's right well when wharf is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/124">TS</a>]

00:02:06   your captain you gotta wonder if it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/126">TS</a>]

00:02:08   good day to die [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/128">TS</a>]

00:02:09   includes you right it's a hard posting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/129">TS</a>]

00:02:12   working for Worf guys alright so first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/132">TS</a>]

00:02:15   contact written by run more brand braga [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/135">TS</a>]

00:02:18   from Star Trek writers on Star Trek next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/138">TS</a>]

00:02:21   generation in the following series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/141">TS</a>]

00:02:22   directed by Jonathan Frakes TVs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/142">TS</a>]

00:02:24   commander Riker himself and obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/144">TS</a>]

00:02:27   the next generation cast with a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/147">TS</a>]

00:02:29   guest stars Alfre Woodard is Lily James [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/149">TS</a>]

00:02:33   Cromwell is Ephraim Cochran a character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/153">TS</a>]

00:02:35   from the original series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/155">TS</a>]

00:02:36   Reese who in a weird episode of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/156">TS</a>]

00:02:39   original series where he falls in love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/159">TS</a>]

00:02:41   with a cloud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/161">TS</a>]

00:02:42   anyway we've all been there Jason and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/162">TS</a>]

00:02:44   Alice Krieger is the board queen so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/164">TS</a>]

00:02:47   three great i think guest stars in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/167">TS</a>]

00:02:50   one to get stories of a movie can have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/170">TS</a>]

00:02:52   guest stars but it's a based on the TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/172">TS</a>]

00:02:54   show so i guess it can I thought maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/174">TS</a>]

00:02:56   we break the moving down to start into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/176">TS</a>]

00:02:59   the three different threads that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/179">TS</a>]

00:03:03   this movie goes in because this movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/183">TS</a>]

00:03:04   really does break into three plot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/184">TS</a>]

00:03:06   threads of it fairly quickly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/186">TS</a>]

00:03:08   the movie starts with a Borg attack well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/188">TS</a>]

00:03:10   I guess it really starts with Picard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/190">TS</a>]

00:03:11   dreaming about about dreaming about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/191">TS</a>]

00:03:14   being assimilated by the Borg and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/194">TS</a>]

00:03:16   he wakes up but it's still a dream but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/196">TS</a>]

00:03:19   then he wakes up again and gets a called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/199">TS</a>]

00:03:20   the border attacking and and that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/200">TS</a>]

00:03:24   sets Picard off on his journey because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/204">TS</a>]

00:03:26   they basically say no no don't come we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/206">TS</a>]

00:03:29   don't want you don't like we don't trust [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/209">TS</a>]

00:03:31   you because you were compromised when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/211">TS</a>]

00:03:34   you were assimilated by the Borg but of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/214">TS</a>]

00:03:37   course Picard disregards orders he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/217">TS</a>]

00:03:39   rushes in he saves the day because his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/219">TS</a>]

00:03:41   knowledge of the board actually helps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/221">TS</a>]

00:03:43   them blow up the board ship but uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/223">TS</a>]

00:03:45   little sphere emerges from the board [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/225">TS</a>]

00:03:48   ship and goes back in time to assimilate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/228">TS</a>]

00:03:50   earth in the past and that's your that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/230">TS</a>]

00:03:54   where the story begins to pick up war [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/234">TS</a>]

00:03:55   from the damage defiant because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/235">TS</a>]

00:03:57   contractually war should be in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/237">TS</a>]

00:03:59   movies but this on the Space nine so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/239">TS</a>]

00:04:01   they gotta work that out and so they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/241">TS</a>]

00:04:04   like yeah but defined it'sit's good nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/244">TS</a>]

00:04:06   little ship little-little and we're back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/246">TS</a>]

00:04:10   in the past and it's a it's a it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/250">TS</a>]

00:04:12   like a day before the first launch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/252">TS</a>]

00:04:15   the reception Cochran's warp ship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/255">TS</a>]

00:04:17   meeting the aliens who are not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/257">TS</a>]

00:04:20   identified until the last scene for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/260">TS</a>]

00:04:22   first contact contact experience and at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/262">TS</a>]

00:04:25   that point the the movie breaks into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/265">TS</a>]

00:04:27   three we have the card we have data [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/267">TS</a>]

00:04:29   talking to the board queen and we've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/269">TS</a>]

00:04:32   the stuff that happens on earth where is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/272">TS</a>]

00:04:34   that from Cochran is dealing with some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/274">TS</a>]

00:04:37   members of the crew and the weight of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/277">TS</a>]

00:04:39   history [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/279">TS</a>]

00:04:40   the one thing that that's interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/280">TS</a>]

00:04:41   about this that sets it apart from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/281">TS</a>]

00:04:43   pretty much all the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/283">TS</a>]

00:04:44   next-generation movies at least is if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/284">TS</a>]

00:04:46   this were an episode of the show would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/286">TS</a>]

00:04:47   be a mythology episode right because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/287">TS</a>]

00:04:49   connects [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/289">TS</a>]

00:04:49   to a very discreet portion of the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/289">TS</a>]

00:04:52   and in some ways it's amazing that this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/292">TS</a>]

00:04:54   works because it seems like a hard sell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/294">TS</a>]

00:04:57   right that you have staff to have seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/297">TS</a>]

00:04:58   these you know basically these two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/298">TS</a>]

00:05:00   particular episodes of a seven-year-long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/300">TS</a>]

00:05:02   show in order to sort of get it and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/302">TS</a>]

00:05:04   started you know they give you that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/304">TS</a>]

00:05:05   little flashback at the beginning and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/305">TS</a>]

00:05:07   you know it sprinkled throughout here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/307">TS</a>]

00:05:08   and there but you know you compare that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/308">TS</a>]

00:05:10   to something like insurrection or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/310">TS</a>]

00:05:11   nemesis or even generations in which all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/311">TS</a>]

00:05:14   you really have to know was like okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/314">TS</a>]

00:05:15   captain kirk's a guy right like I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/315">TS</a>]

00:05:17   that is I mean the closest the closest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/317">TS</a>]

00:05:20   parallel is really probably to wrath of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/320">TS</a>]

00:05:22   khan right which was also sort of a call [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/322">TS</a>]

00:05:24   back to an episode of the show and to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/324">TS</a>]

00:05:27   that it's impressive that they got a not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/327">TS</a>]

00:05:29   only is a mythology you know movie is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/329">TS</a>]

00:05:32   made but it is unquestionably the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/332">TS</a>]

00:05:35   successful and the best of these for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/335">TS</a>]

00:05:37   next generation will be so yeah it's one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/337">TS</a>]

00:05:39   of the things i love about this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/339">TS</a>]

00:05:41   economy with which it it starts the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/341">TS</a>]

00:05:43   story and then just motors through it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/343">TS</a>]

00:05:45   and the balance between those those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/345">TS</a>]

00:05:47   various threads your ear never sitting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/347">TS</a>]

00:05:51   there going what's going to happen next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/351">TS</a>]

00:05:53   when is the next scene [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/353">TS</a>]

00:05:55   it just keeps moving and you know for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/355">TS</a>]

00:05:58   all the jokes about tvs Riker he does a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/358">TS</a>]

00:06:00   nice job driving that yes and keeping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/360">TS</a>]

00:06:03   all the balls in the air i just i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/363">TS</a>]

00:06:05   remember sitting in the theater going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/365">TS</a>]

00:06:07   this shouldn't be working like this this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/367">TS</a>]

00:06:09   is great because i was disappointed by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/369">TS</a>]

00:06:11   generations and so it was like wow they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/371">TS</a>]

00:06:14   got it right and they never got it right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/374">TS</a>]

00:06:16   again but oh I think something i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/376">TS</a>]

00:06:20   say is you want to watch star trek [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/380">TS</a>]

00:06:21   beyond um I hated that movie i'm sorry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/381">TS</a>]

00:06:24   i've seen it twice I've given it a fair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/384">TS</a>]

00:06:25   shot an action movie in space in what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/385">TS</a>]

00:06:28   really stands out to me when you go back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/388">TS</a>]

00:06:30   and watch first contact is i think most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/390">TS</a>]

00:06:33   people would agree it's one more action [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/393">TS</a>]

00:06:35   e star trek movies with the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/395">TS</a>]

00:06:37   generation cast but what makes it work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/397">TS</a>]

00:06:40   so much better than I think the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/400">TS</a>]

00:06:43   reboot is managed to do is the Cuban [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/403">TS</a>]

00:06:46   moments like the moment with lily and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/406">TS</a>]

00:06:48   card are really intense and really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/408">TS</a>]

00:06:51   awesome indie feel that like when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/411">TS</a>]

00:06:53   know Picard chooses to kill instant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/413">TS</a>]

00:06:56   Lynch like you feel that I when the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/416">TS</a>]

00:06:58   turns to the board when Hawk turns into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/418">TS</a>]

00:07:00   a board like you feel that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/420">TS</a>]

00:07:02   and I just think there's a man acting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/422">TS</a>]

00:07:04   substance in this film that just doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/424">TS</a>]

00:07:07   exist in the more recent Star Trek movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/427">TS</a>]

00:07:09   yeah they're they're allowed to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/429">TS</a>]

00:07:11   depth though and and they've earned that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/431">TS</a>]

00:07:13   depth whereas we're just told oh this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/433">TS</a>]

00:07:16   kirk and spock and you know they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/436">TS</a>]

00:07:18   great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/438">TS</a>]

00:07:18   well that's I mean once again the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/438">TS</a>]

00:07:20   generation movies have seven years of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/440">TS</a>]

00:07:22   the next generation get build-up and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/442">TS</a>]

00:07:24   characters whereas the reboots have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/444">TS</a>]

00:07:26   movies that you've seen plus you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/446">TS</a>]

00:07:28   you're here for your recollections of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/448">TS</a>]

00:07:30   previous actors doing different versions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/450">TS</a>]

00:07:32   of the same characters so it's in many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/452">TS</a>]

00:07:34   ways even more of a challenge to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/454">TS</a>]

00:07:35   that right i mean with be with first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/455">TS</a>]

00:07:39   contact think you have a situation where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/459">TS</a>]

00:07:41   all of the the principals involved have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/461">TS</a>]

00:07:44   kind of Dave they know their characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/464">TS</a>]

00:07:46   like the back of their hands at this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/466">TS</a>]

00:07:47   point they they know you know Patrick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/467">TS</a>]

00:07:51   Stewart knows who Picard is in the very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/471">TS</a>]

00:07:53   intimate way and when you add that to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/473">TS</a>]

00:07:57   screenplay that really is designed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/477">TS</a>]

00:07:59   cut up needle down to the courts of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/479">TS</a>]

00:08:01   these characters he do get something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/481">TS</a>]

00:08:04   that you know the best way I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/484">TS</a>]

00:08:06   describe it as sort of like a a clean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/486">TS</a>]

00:08:08   palette cleanser right that like this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/488">TS</a>]

00:08:11   these are this is a the same way that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/491">TS</a>]

00:08:15   wrath of khan got you the essence of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/495">TS</a>]

00:08:17   original series characters is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/497">TS</a>]

00:08:19   essence of all of these next-generation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/499">TS</a>]

00:08:22   characters and in the the subsequent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/502">TS</a>]

00:08:24   films i think lose quite a bit of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/504">TS</a>]

00:08:26   and then attempt to kind of make them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/506">TS</a>]

00:08:28   more conventional but here here it is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/508">TS</a>]

00:08:33   very much a parent I would also add as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/513">TS</a>]

00:08:35   parenthetical that I really enjoy Star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/515">TS</a>]

00:08:37   Trek beyond we can have the camera i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/517">TS</a>]

00:08:40   really enjoyed it too but that's a whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/520">TS</a>]

00:08:42   other move but oh well there's also a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/522">TS</a>]

00:08:46   surprising amount of had for lack of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/526">TS</a>]

00:08:47   better term fanservice in this movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/527">TS</a>]

00:08:49   which is that minor characters from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/529">TS</a>]

00:08:51   show up here like Barkley appearing lady [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/531">TS</a>]

00:08:54   now nurse Ogawa appears if it seem like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/534">TS</a>]

00:08:57   very briefly I don't just like that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/537">TS</a>]

00:08:59   know they make sure that almost all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/539">TS</a>]

00:09:01   those like little recurring characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/541">TS</a>]

00:09:02   get a moment or something even if we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/542">TS</a>]

00:09:04   have new character certain as well as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/544">TS</a>]

00:09:06   you can have the emergency medical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/546">TS</a>]

00:09:08   hologram yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/548">TS</a>]

00:09:09   to avoid your movie yeah and nurse Ogawa [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/549">TS</a>]

00:09:13   gets to you almost as much as dr. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/553">TS</a>]

00:09:15   crusher gets to do in this movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/555">TS</a>]

00:09:16   yeah that's true dr. crusher at least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/556">TS</a>]

00:09:18   try get to get drunk and and one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/558">TS</a>]

00:09:21   earliest times i saw this i mean is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/561">TS</a>]

00:09:24   probably the third or fourth time I saw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/564">TS</a>]

00:09:25   I saw it with someone who had never seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/565">TS</a>]

00:09:27   next generation but they were just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/567">TS</a>]

00:09:29   curious because they heard all about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/569">TS</a>]

00:09:31   snow the board the board and so they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/571">TS</a>]

00:09:33   didn't have any of the best of both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/573">TS</a>]

00:09:35   worlds they didn't have any of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/575">TS</a>]

00:09:36   knowledge of Picard's history with them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/576">TS</a>]

00:09:38   and they loved it and were able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/578">TS</a>]

00:09:42   follow it from just from what was in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/582">TS</a>]

00:09:44   movie and at the end asked me did they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/584">TS</a>]

00:09:47   actually do an episode about that said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/587">TS</a>]

00:09:49   oh oh you have no idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/589">TS</a>]

00:09:51   yes they did many it's a remarkably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/591">TS</a>]

00:09:53   efficient screenplay and I say that when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/593">TS</a>]

00:09:55   we talk about Star Trek beyond what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/595">TS</a>]

00:09:58   said about it was that it falls into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/598">TS</a>]

00:10:00   trap of having only enough parts to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/600">TS</a>]

00:10:02   what it needs to do and we again that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/602">TS</a>]

00:10:04   a different podcasts that this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/604">TS</a>]

00:10:05   efficient in a different way this is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/605">TS</a>]

00:10:07   efficient in that while it's doing these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/607">TS</a>]

00:10:09   bits of fanservice it's doing them in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/609">TS</a>]

00:10:11   ways where it's exactly what you need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/611">TS</a>]

00:10:14   and nothing more so like the emergency [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/614">TS</a>]

00:10:15   medical hologram [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/615">TS</a>]

00:10:17   it's a good joke and everybody who seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/617">TS</a>]

00:10:19   voyagers like hey it's the EMH but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/619">TS</a>]

00:10:22   also just a good joke it's a delaying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/622">TS</a>]

00:10:24   tactic for crusher [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/624">TS</a>]

00:10:25   it's a perfect use of the character it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/625">TS</a>]

00:10:26   doesn't linger on it nurse Ogawa is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/626">TS</a>]

00:10:29   present and she does everything Barkley [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/629">TS</a>]

00:10:30   is used in that one scene at a moment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/630">TS</a>]

00:10:34   that will get to in a little bit that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/634">TS</a>]

00:10:36   very important when you're talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/636">TS</a>]

00:10:37   characters and about the journey that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/637">TS</a>]

00:10:40   Cromwell has to take is that from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/640">TS</a>]

00:10:41   Cochran and then that's it we know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/641">TS</a>]

00:10:43   that's all we needed him for but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/643">TS</a>]

00:10:45   kind of a pivotal scene and he's he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/645">TS</a>]

00:10:47   the right character to use in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/647">TS</a>]

00:10:49   situation and throughout this movie i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/649">TS</a>]

00:10:51   think i can point it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/651">TS</a>]

00:10:52   other examples of some restraint of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/652">TS</a>]

00:10:55   they use they know where all the tools [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/655">TS</a>]

00:10:56   are but they use them with restraint and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/656">TS</a>]

00:10:58   they get them to do exactly what they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/658">TS</a>]

00:10:59   need and then that's it and then that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/659">TS</a>]

00:11:01   they don't get over you they move on to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/661">TS</a>]

00:11:03   the next thing so card [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/663">TS</a>]

00:11:05   let's let's dive into Picard a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/665">TS</a>]

00:11:06   bit more card you talk about the perils [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/666">TS</a>]

00:11:09   will start to we have moby-dick we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/669">TS</a>]

00:11:12   a character from an old star trek [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/672">TS</a>]

00:11:14   episode in different Cochran or if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/674">TS</a>]

00:11:16   want to go this way a direct sequel to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/676">TS</a>]

00:11:18   an old next generation episode in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/678">TS</a>]

00:11:20   case yes to both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/680">TS</a>]

00:11:21   world there's so much rolled into that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/681">TS</a>]

00:11:23   and and this is a story about the card [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/683">TS</a>]

00:11:26   having his baggage with the board and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/686">TS</a>]

00:11:29   end almost coming to accept that it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/689">TS</a>]

00:11:32   what it is and that he has to move past [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/692">TS</a>]

00:11:33   it because it does help him defeat the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/693">TS</a>]

00:11:35   board in the present day when they want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/695">TS</a>]

00:11:38   to like leave him on the outside but he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/698">TS</a>]

00:11:40   he has a vendetta against the Borg and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/700">TS</a>]

00:11:44   and we see that throughout his he's only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/704">TS</a>]

00:11:46   on earth for a short amount of time he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/706">TS</a>]

00:11:48   deems back to the ship and at that point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/708">TS</a>]

00:11:50   he's kind of an action hero but he is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/710">TS</a>]

00:11:52   not Captain Picard for a while because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/712">TS</a>]

00:11:55   he not only does he kill a instant Lynch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/715">TS</a>]

00:11:58   uh in in the holodeck and kind of silly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/718">TS</a>]

00:12:02   as appalled by that but he kills another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/722">TS</a>]

00:12:04   character very early on who's just been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/724">TS</a>]

00:12:06   assimilated by the Borg no attempt to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/726">TS</a>]

00:12:08   say that header me at all I mean he he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/728">TS</a>]

00:12:12   is from the get-go he basically says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/732">TS</a>]

00:12:14   just kill them you know they would thank [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/734">TS</a>]

00:12:17   you i know i would so we get to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/737">TS</a>]

00:12:19   Picard really kind of he's messed up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/739">TS</a>]

00:12:21   until he finally has that final scene [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/741">TS</a>]

00:12:23   with alfre woodard where she kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/743">TS</a>]

00:12:26   makes him snap out of it i think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/746">TS</a>]

00:12:27   really need all the action and suspense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/747">TS</a>]

00:12:29   and and things that were used to in a in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/749">TS</a>]

00:12:31   a movie like this it's a really good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/751">TS</a>]

00:12:33   journey for patrick stewart to do more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/753">TS</a>]

00:12:36   than you know what we saw in best of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/756">TS</a>]

00:12:38   both worlds basically while it's nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/758">TS</a>]

00:12:39   because so many of the episodes I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/759">TS</a>]

00:12:41   TNG was largely very episodic yea even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/761">TS</a>]

00:12:44   tho ye they didn't spend a ton of time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/764">TS</a>]

00:12:47   on Picard recovering from you know being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/767">TS</a>]

00:12:49   assimilated right like that doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/769">TS</a>]

00:12:51   really come up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/771">TS</a>]

00:12:52   yeah like one episode yeah which is i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/772">TS</a>]

00:12:54   love that is but with traditionally like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/774">TS</a>]

00:12:56   you know everything resets at the end of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/776">TS</a>]

00:12:58   the episodes right most of the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/778">TS</a>]

00:12:59   there is some white continuity from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/779">TS</a>]

00:13:01   episode to episode ensure if you look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/781">TS</a>]

00:13:03   over the course of seven seasons you see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/783">TS</a>]

00:13:05   these characters change in some ways but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/785">TS</a>]

00:13:07   a lot of it is you know reset at the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/787">TS</a>]

00:13:09   of the episode like watching an old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/789">TS</a>]

00:13:10   lady's cartoon and so you know having a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/790">TS</a>]

00:13:13   chance to sort of delve into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/793">TS</a>]

00:13:14   psychological thing that was an impact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/794">TS</a>]

00:13:16   of an earlier episode is what gives it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/796">TS</a>]

00:13:19   that richness that we don't really get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/799">TS</a>]

00:13:21   from a lot of the other ones i mean they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/801">TS</a>]

00:13:22   tried something like this insurrection [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/802">TS</a>]

00:13:23   you know it has a sort of an idea and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/803">TS</a>]

00:13:26   plot and you know there's there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/806">TS</a>]

00:13:28   message journals there but it's sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/808">TS</a>]

00:13:31   right it doesn't work it fails because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/811">TS</a>]

00:13:33   that's not really a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/813">TS</a>]

00:13:34   a question that we were interested in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/814">TS</a>]

00:13:36   seeing answered what I think really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/816">TS</a>]

00:13:38   shines about first contact is Picard and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/818">TS</a>]

00:13:42   I think it just shows how much more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/822">TS</a>]

00:13:45   talented actor he has been the shot the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/825">TS</a>]

00:13:48   shot has that one really good moment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/828">TS</a>]

00:13:50   when Spock ties but i think generally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/830">TS</a>]

00:13:52   speaking most people would agree it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/832">TS</a>]

00:13:54   just no contest and like we're telling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/834">TS</a>]

00:13:57   jokes on this podcast about the line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/837">TS</a>]

00:13:59   must be drawn here but like you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/839">TS</a>]

00:14:01   watch that scene in I also the home of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/841">TS</a>]

00:14:04   drainage in anger and desperation in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/844">TS</a>]

00:14:07   world just bubbling up in me and I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/847">TS</a>]

00:14:09   seen it a thousand times and it is i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/849">TS</a>]

00:14:12   mean it's acting and playing off of Lily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/852">TS</a>]

00:14:14   like she's perfectly cast here because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/854">TS</a>]

00:14:16   she she stands up to him and like that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/856">TS</a>]

00:14:19   not something we really see on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/859">TS</a>]

00:14:20   next-generation very much someone to can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/860">TS</a>]

00:14:22   go toe-to-toe with Picard and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/862">TS</a>]

00:14:24   it's you know it's not a mystery it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/864">TS</a>]

00:14:26   just incredible acting and what what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/866">TS</a>]

00:14:29   what's really amazing is you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/869">TS</a>]

00:14:31   they've used movie dick as an analogy in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/871">TS</a>]

00:14:34   the past but it's con con is the one who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/874">TS</a>]

00:14:37   is the Ahab figure and rice time it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/877">TS</a>]

00:14:41   the hero and and it's also not a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/881">TS</a>]

00:14:44   thing right that's the thing that kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/884">TS</a>]

00:14:45   of snaps out of it it's like oh and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/885">TS</a>]

00:14:50   know what that is such that is that such [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/890">TS</a>]

00:14:52   a brave thing to do with their hero and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/892">TS</a>]

00:14:54   but Stewart can handle it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/894">TS</a>]

00:14:56   obviously I will say though that in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/896">TS</a>]

00:14:59   short of going that route and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/899">TS</a>]

00:15:01   it's I've about i think it and thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/901">TS</a>]

00:15:03   it was very smart choice to sort of make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/903">TS</a>]

00:15:05   Picard our a hab that I think that this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/905">TS</a>]

00:15:10   movie i cannot paves the way for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/910">TS</a>]

00:15:15   explicitly action here any action hero [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/915">TS</a>]

00:15:18   ii recorded me and the subsequent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/918">TS</a>]

00:15:20   next-generation missed you think of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/920">TS</a>]

00:15:22   big misreading of a character I mean so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/922">TS</a>]

00:15:25   my least favorite part of first contact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/925">TS</a>]

00:15:26   is the holodeck seen part of this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/926">TS</a>]

00:15:30   gonna ask oh hey Talladega to concede [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/930">TS</a>]

00:15:32   that but sort of the Picard of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/932">TS</a>]

00:15:36   next-generation I don't think generally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/936">TS</a>]

00:15:39   would gun down you know someone with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/939">TS</a>]

00:15:44   Tommy gun in the middle of a holodeck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/944">TS</a>]

00:15:46   just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/946">TS</a>]

00:15:47   doesn't really that's like a wharf thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/947">TS</a>]

00:15:49   to do right thats really seem like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/949">TS</a>]

00:15:51   record that we know and even in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/951">TS</a>]

00:15:53   context of a story about his PTSD it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/953">TS</a>]

00:15:57   just doesn't really fit and I think I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/957">TS</a>]

00:16:00   think that's if there's like a flaw here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/960">TS</a>]

00:16:03   a fatal flaw but something that would I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/963">TS</a>]

00:16:05   think become a fatal form and emulator [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/965">TS</a>]

00:16:07   movies it's that like I Picard it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/967">TS</a>]

00:16:12   becomes her Patrick Stewart plays Picard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/972">TS</a>]

00:16:15   as an almost arrow Flemish character and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/975">TS</a>]

00:16:18   a way that i'm not quite sure I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/978">TS</a>]

00:16:22   fits they care for the that students [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/982">TS</a>]

00:16:25   actually established going into first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/985">TS</a>]

00:16:27   contact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/987">TS</a>]

00:16:28   well here you would argue that he's that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/988">TS</a>]

00:16:29   he's kinda messed up and that's why he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/989">TS</a>]

00:16:31   behaving this way the problem is if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/991">TS</a>]

00:16:32   somebody says oh that was cool let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/992">TS</a>]

00:16:34   have him do that again in the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/994">TS</a>]

00:16:35   couple of movies it's like no no youyou [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/995">TS</a>]

00:16:38   that then you really misread this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/998">TS</a>]

00:16:39   character because he was doing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/999">TS</a>]

00:16:41   because he was totally in a bad place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1001">TS</a>]

00:16:43   and needed to snap out of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1003">TS</a>]

00:16:45   this is not normal Captain Picard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1005">TS</a>]

00:16:47   because he would never do that it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1007">TS</a>]

00:16:49   also not a normal situation they're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1009">TS</a>]

00:16:51   just trying to fight the board they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1011">TS</a>]

00:16:52   trying to preserve the existence of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1012">TS</a>]

00:16:55   Federation there's desperation there too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1015">TS</a>]

00:16:57   I mean part of that is it you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1017">TS</a>]

00:16:58   Patrick Stewart had a read the original [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1018">TS</a>]

00:17:01   well an earlier draft of this and had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1021">TS</a>]

00:17:04   decided that he wanted to be up on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1024">TS</a>]

00:17:05   ship and be action here doing these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1025">TS</a>]

00:17:07   things and not down on the planet which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1027">TS</a>]

00:17:10   was the way it was originally written so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1030">TS</a>]

00:17:12   I think it's a very different movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1032">TS</a>]

00:17:15   having him up there eight works for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1035">TS</a>]

00:17:18   especially because he has lily as as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1038">TS</a>]

00:17:21   brianna the head said as a foil to work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1041">TS</a>]

00:17:25   off of and it also helps us is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1045">TS</a>]

00:17:26   audience to understand his mind in a way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1046">TS</a>]

00:17:28   that any gin insurrection doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1048">TS</a>]

00:17:31   accomplish and in a way that nothing in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1051">TS</a>]

00:17:34   nemesis accomplishes there's there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1054">TS</a>]

00:17:37   no the weather character to bounce off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1057">TS</a>]

00:17:39   of there really other than he has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1059">TS</a>]

00:17:41   couple of the sides to Troy about you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1061">TS</a>]

00:17:43   know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1063">TS</a>]

00:17:44   oh he understands me or whatever for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1064">TS</a>]

00:17:46   chins up but that this this really I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1066">TS</a>]

00:17:50   feel works quite well because she can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1070">TS</a>]

00:17:54   also extract all of the information from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1074">TS</a>]

00:17:57   card in a way that many of these other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1077">TS</a>]

00:18:00   doctors probably couldn't because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1080">TS</a>]

00:18:02   know they the the next generation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1082">TS</a>]

00:18:03   characters weren't really supposed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1083">TS</a>]

00:18:04   challenge one another like this so it it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1084">TS</a>]

00:18:08   works well to have her there to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1088">TS</a>]

00:18:10   challenge him off in that aspect in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1090">TS</a>]

00:18:12   something that we don't see you again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1092">TS</a>]

00:18:13   repeated in in the following films isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1093">TS</a>]

00:18:17   a great moment we're on the bridge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1097">TS</a>]

00:18:18   Picard basically insult he dresses down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1098">TS</a>]

00:18:20   Worf he basically says go sacrifice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1100">TS</a>]

00:18:22   yourself and and goes into random just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1102">TS</a>]

00:18:25   walks into the ready room and offer a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1105">TS</a>]

00:18:27   water just looks around and she's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1107">TS</a>]

00:18:29   what the hell are you people doing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1109">TS</a>]

00:18:32   they're like oh while he's the captain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1112">TS</a>]

00:18:33   we're going to follow his orders which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1113">TS</a>]

00:18:34   of course is admirable and it and it's I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1114">TS</a>]

00:18:36   think maybe a little too on the nose but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1116">TS</a>]

00:18:38   I like that she says to him like maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1118">TS</a>]

00:18:42   they never got stupid orders like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1122">TS</a>]

00:18:45   before whatever she says like to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1125">TS</a>]

00:18:46   that of course their loyalty is good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1126">TS</a>]

00:18:48   normally but you're behaving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1128">TS</a>]

00:18:50   irrationally but I just like that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1130">TS</a>]

00:18:51   because she's not a member of the crew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1131">TS</a>]

00:18:53   in column on it and that that is and she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1133">TS</a>]

00:18:56   storms in there and then we get that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1136">TS</a>]

00:18:58   amazing scene where which i do i just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1138">TS</a>]

00:19:00   love dearly loved the whole thing things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1140">TS</a>]

00:19:02   I i think we quote that scene weekly and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1142">TS</a>]

00:19:05   if it's not a line must be drawn here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1145">TS</a>]

00:19:07   it's you broke your little ships right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1147">TS</a>]

00:19:09   that is it and just the way she under [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1149">TS</a>]

00:19:12   cells that line two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1152">TS</a>]

00:19:14   she doesn't make a big deal out of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1154">TS</a>]

00:19:15   just you know there's that pause and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1155">TS</a>]

00:19:18   broke a little ships it's like that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1158">TS</a>]

00:19:21   the coldest way to do that line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1161">TS</a>]

00:19:23   well I like the I mean in the it's shot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1163">TS</a>]

00:19:25   very well seen to it this whole movie is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1165">TS</a>]

00:19:27   shot very distinctly from the enterprise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1167">TS</a>]

00:19:29   that we've come to know and love right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1169">TS</a>]

00:19:31   on the series because it's the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1171">TS</a>]

00:19:34   enterprise as we've as we've had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1174">TS</a>]

00:19:36   arguments in the in our back channel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1176">TS</a>]

00:19:38   slack for her few weeks about what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1178">TS</a>]

00:19:40   happened carrier Enterprise it so that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1180">TS</a>]

00:19:42   great but you know it is it's a it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1182">TS</a>]

00:19:44   it's the most advanced ship in the fleet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1184">TS</a>]

00:19:46   it's clearly much more of a warship and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1186">TS</a>]

00:19:49   you know the whole thing is sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1189">TS</a>]

00:19:51   darkly lit and it's got all you know a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1191">TS</a>]

00:19:53   very different feel to it and so I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1193">TS</a>]

00:19:56   think and there's a nice like several [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1196">TS</a>]

00:19:57   zoom in on and he talks about we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1197">TS</a>]

00:19:59   you know they they do this we fall back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1199">TS</a>]

00:20:02   they do this we retreat you know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1202">TS</a>]

00:20:03   like I love that it's a great shot two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1203">TS</a>]

00:20:05   great delivery by stuart like that whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1205">TS</a>]

00:20:07   thing is incredibly well put together I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1207">TS</a>]

00:20:10   and I think what's interesting about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1210">TS</a>]

00:20:12   this is that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1212">TS</a>]

00:20:13   puts Starfleet on a much more military [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1213">TS</a>]

00:20:17   footing you know it feels like I mean I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1217">TS</a>]

00:20:19   was thinking also just so it's almost a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1219">TS</a>]

00:20:21   throwaway line but yeah Lily calls him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1221">TS</a>]

00:20:24   addresses him as soldier at one point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1224">TS</a>]

00:20:26   and he doesn't argue with that or make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1226">TS</a>]

00:20:28   any comment about it right like even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1228">TS</a>]

00:20:30   though i think there are a lot of cases [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1230">TS</a>]

00:20:31   where we'd have started characters like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1231">TS</a>]

00:20:33   we're not soldiers were really like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1233">TS</a>]

00:20:35   explorers and scientists now in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1235">TS</a>]

00:20:36   from there pretty much soldiers it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1236">TS</a>]

00:20:38   even more clever than that i think in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1238">TS</a>]

00:20:40   that there's a scene the scene where he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1240">TS</a>]

00:20:41   takes her to the Observation Lounge and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1241">TS</a>]

00:20:43   shows her earth and it's this beautiful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1243">TS</a>]

00:20:45   it's it's such a star trek seen it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1245">TS</a>]

00:20:47   such a gene roddenberry scene where it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1247">TS</a>]

00:20:49   like we don't even have any money in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1249">TS</a>]

00:20:51   future we just work to better ourselves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1251">TS</a>]

00:20:52   the whole thing and then they go and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1252">TS</a>]

00:20:55   they emerged into the middle of the into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1255">TS</a>]

00:20:56   the bridge and the bat and the battle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1256">TS</a>]

00:20:58   planning is going on and you can see in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1258">TS</a>]

00:21:01   alfre woodard it's like oh so much for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1261">TS</a>]

00:21:05   idealism right like that that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1265">TS</a>]

00:21:07   moment where like the old the kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1267">TS</a>]

00:21:08   star trek ideals and falls away and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1268">TS</a>]

00:21:10   we're fighting and all the right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1270">TS</a>]

00:21:12   lighting is like red and everybody's got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1272">TS</a>]

00:21:13   big rifles and there's gonna be a fight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1273">TS</a>]

00:21:15   and it's a really like like she she gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1275">TS</a>]

00:21:18   old star trek and then this is what she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1278">TS</a>]

00:21:20   actually get it turns into ds9 there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1280">TS</a>]

00:21:22   what people think so that the the big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1282">TS</a>]

00:21:24   action sequence and it is it is a it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1284">TS</a>]

00:21:27   an action movie sequence right it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1287">TS</a>]

00:21:29   we need two three complete 3d Lee's that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1289">TS</a>]

00:21:31   need to be turned in order to do the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1291">TS</a>]

00:21:33   thing stops the bad guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1293">TS</a>]

00:21:34   yeah you know it is that although [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1294">TS</a>]

00:21:38   they're all I think there's a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1298">TS</a>]

00:21:39   clever things about the fact that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1299">TS</a>]

00:21:40   on the underside of the saucer that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1300">TS</a>]

00:21:42   get the kind of like funny where they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1302">TS</a>]

00:21:44   upside down and then we get the shot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1304">TS</a>]

00:21:46   where we pan up and now we've oriented [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1306">TS</a>]

00:21:47   right side up and there's some antigrav [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1307">TS</a>]

00:21:49   stuff in it and there's some some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1309">TS</a>]

00:21:51   punching in spacesuits and Worf uses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1311">TS</a>]

00:21:54   aboard 2-2 tie office in a suit at one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1314">TS</a>]

00:21:57   point and i know it is i I really enjoy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1317">TS</a>]

00:22:02   that scene although i think it goes back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1322">TS</a>]

00:22:04   to what i was saying about future movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1324">TS</a>]

00:22:06   that i enjoy that scene and yet I one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1326">TS</a>]

00:22:09   the reasons i enjoy this because at this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1329">TS</a>]

00:22:10   point we didn't see the next generation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1330">TS</a>]

00:22:12   do action set pieces like this and now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1332">TS</a>]

00:22:15   like Star Trek movies have to be all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1335">TS</a>]

00:22:16   action set pieces like this so that part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1336">TS</a>]

00:22:19   of it i don't like but I do kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1339">TS</a>]

00:22:20   enjoy it as ridiculous it is that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1340">TS</a>]

00:22:22   three maglock thing is that they have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1342">TS</a>]

00:22:23   turn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1343">TS</a>]

00:22:24   hard part of that is also the the sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1344">TS</a>]

00:22:26   of like horror aspect the thriller [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1346">TS</a>]

00:22:28   aspect of it but make sure that makes it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1348">TS</a>]

00:22:30   slightly different than some of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1350">TS</a>]

00:22:31   other action set-pieces we're going up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1351">TS</a>]

00:22:34   against other kinds of villains in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1354">TS</a>]

00:22:36   particular case you know it's more like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1356">TS</a>]

00:22:39   fighting zombies you know they're kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1359">TS</a>]

00:22:41   of ignoring you milling around doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1361">TS</a>]

00:22:43   your thing and it's like oh now you draw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1363">TS</a>]

00:22:44   their attention not so it can it makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1364">TS</a>]

00:22:48   the action scenes play out differently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1368">TS</a>]

00:22:49   than if there were Romulans doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1369">TS</a>]

00:22:52   something on the deflector dish or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1372">TS</a>]

00:22:53   Riemann's doing something on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1373">TS</a>]

00:22:55   deflector dish they keep looking up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1375">TS</a>]

00:22:56   right when they when they do things with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1376">TS</a>]

00:22:58   the computer to keep looking up and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1378">TS</a>]

00:23:00   remember that moment like oh oh jeez but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1380">TS</a>]

00:23:02   it doesn't it's not like if it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1382">TS</a>]

00:23:04   Romulan or something where they would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1384">TS</a>]

00:23:05   immediately be like calling in people to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1385">TS</a>]

00:23:08   go attack them instead your current kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1388">TS</a>]

00:23:09   of waiting for women they gonna come and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1389">TS</a>]

00:23:11   when are they going to attack but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1391">TS</a>]

00:23:13   people who are doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1393">TS</a>]

00:23:14   yeah I want to actually get double [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1394">TS</a>]

00:23:16   double dominant because it is now I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1396">TS</a>]

00:23:18   recently I think every watch this maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1398">TS</a>]

00:23:21   a week and a half ago i've been on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1401">TS</a>]

00:23:23   star trek kick we're watching all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1403">TS</a>]

00:23:24   movies and I think it was a week after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1404">TS</a>]

00:23:27   their reward first time tag and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1407">TS</a>]

00:23:29   really did strike me how much especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1409">TS</a>]

00:23:34   in the earlier scenes with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1414">TS</a>]

00:23:35   enterprise is being assimilated and crew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1415">TS</a>]

00:23:38   members are being assimilated and there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1418">TS</a>]

00:23:40   are shots of crew members and having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1420">TS</a>]

00:23:42   their limbs replace how much it is shot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1422">TS</a>]

00:23:44   like a body horror film [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1424">TS</a>]

00:23:46   yeah and how much you know caution [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1426">TS</a>]

00:23:50   tight tight spaces low lighting costs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1430">TS</a>]

00:23:53   phobia there's the scene where data is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1433">TS</a>]

00:23:56   is grab from beneath and dried under [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1436">TS</a>]

00:23:58   manager here did a straight-up horror [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1438">TS</a>]

00:24:02   movie scenes a green and Jeffrey's to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1442">TS</a>]

00:24:04   really early on right oh yeah the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1444">TS</a>]

00:24:07   two simulations we don't even see I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1447">TS</a>]

00:24:09   first much as first contact is a more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1449">TS</a>]

00:24:12   action e-track movie i do think that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1452">TS</a>]

00:24:16   fact that so much of the action [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1456">TS</a>]

00:24:18   throughout be the film is in this horror [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1458">TS</a>]

00:24:23   style does make it seem under this makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1463">TS</a>]

00:24:27   it seem less action it makes it seem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1467">TS</a>]

00:24:28   less true it's not it's not kinetic in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1468">TS</a>]

00:24:31   way that sealing the the reboots are and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1471">TS</a>]

00:24:34   that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1474">TS</a>]

00:24:35   that makes a real difference in just the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1475">TS</a>]

00:24:37   general feel of it I i really really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1477">TS</a>]

00:24:39   agree with that in one of the the core [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1479">TS</a>]

00:24:42   consists of a horror movie is you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1482">TS</a>]

00:24:44   heart is generally a lower budget genre [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1484">TS</a>]

00:24:47   right so you not to blast star trek [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1487">TS</a>]

00:24:51   beyond similar but you know the scene [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1491">TS</a>]

00:24:52   where you know the the enterprise tips [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1492">TS</a>]

00:24:54   up and they're the others flying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1494">TS</a>]

00:24:56   downhill or even you know the rescue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1496">TS</a>]

00:24:59   seem like it's just an action movie like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1499">TS</a>]

00:25:01   someone got carpal tunnel CGI and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1501">TS</a>]

00:25:03   the motor bikes around its not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1503">TS</a>]

00:25:05   impressive anymore i think what makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1505">TS</a>]

00:25:08   this movie work and part of it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1508">TS</a>]

00:25:10   because it did come in an age before cg [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1510">TS</a>]

00:25:13   hit really just freed us or trapped us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1513">TS</a>]

00:25:16   to like depending on how you see it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1516">TS</a>]

00:25:18   it's it's shot like that scene is kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1518">TS</a>]

00:25:22   of low budget like they're moving in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1522">TS</a>]

00:25:24   slow motion on a soundstage you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1524">TS</a>]

00:25:27   it's lit very carefully and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1527">TS</a>]

00:25:29   actually very minimal set for something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1529">TS</a>]

00:25:31   you're describing as a as a whole you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1531">TS</a>]

00:25:33   know an action scene and I firmly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1533">TS</a>]

00:25:36   believe it's a creative person that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1536">TS</a>]

00:25:38   constraints can actually make your work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1538">TS</a>]

00:25:41   better and i think they served them in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1541">TS</a>]

00:25:43   the same absolutely let's pick up the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1543">TS</a>]

00:25:46   thread about the board and i want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1546">TS</a>]

00:25:47   move kind of tour data and the board [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1547">TS</a>]

00:25:49   queen but it goes with the the idea of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1549">TS</a>]

00:25:51   the horror movie David does get dragged [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1551">TS</a>]

00:25:53   into that door and then we get a series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1553">TS</a>]

00:25:55   of scenes with the board queen i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1555">TS</a>]

00:25:58   more broadly to the Borg as a villain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1558">TS</a>]

00:26:01   going back to start to iive um I'm gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1561">TS</a>]

00:26:05   I'm gonna say later on that their scenes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1565">TS</a>]

00:26:08   with data for Queen that actually remind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1568">TS</a>]

00:26:09   me of goldfinger their strength but he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1569">TS</a>]

00:26:12   tied down and they're having like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1572">TS</a>]

00:26:14   repartee it actually does remind me of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1574">TS</a>]

00:26:16   that but do you expect me to talk no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1576">TS</a>]

00:26:18   expect you to die i expect you to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1578">TS</a>]

00:26:20   assimilate but the but the thing about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1580">TS</a>]

00:26:24   about structure to is it has khan and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1584">TS</a>]

00:26:26   is this oversized character who is going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1586">TS</a>]

00:26:29   to be the opposition and and we're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1589">TS</a>]

00:26:31   have a madman that the the crew has to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1591">TS</a>]

00:26:33   defeat the problem that great movie one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1593">TS</a>]

00:26:35   of my favorite movies of all time but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1595">TS</a>]

00:26:36   problem is that it seems like now every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1596">TS</a>]

00:26:38   search movie has one of those characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1598">TS</a>]

00:26:39   and this movie reminded me again the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1599">TS</a>]

00:26:42   board are yes there's a face to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1602">TS</a>]

00:26:44   board in the board queen but they're a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1604">TS</a>]

00:26:45   force of nature they are kinda like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1605">TS</a>]

00:26:47   zombies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1607">TS</a>]

00:26:48   it is more like a horror movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1608">TS</a>]

00:26:49   and I really like that I really liked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1609">TS</a>]

00:26:51   that that what's happening on the on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1611">TS</a>]

00:26:53   enterprise's an infestation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1613">TS</a>]

00:26:55   it's not a madman's masterplan blah it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1615">TS</a>]

00:27:00   it's it's something much more scary and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1620">TS</a>]

00:27:03   insidious and it's taking over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1623">TS</a>]

00:27:04   crewmembers I I like all of that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1624">TS</a>]

00:27:08   it's not the master plan they weren't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1628">TS</a>]

00:27:10   expecting the enterprise to follow them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1630">TS</a>]

00:27:12   this is totally improv it's like as long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1632">TS</a>]

00:27:14   as we're here they are a force of nature [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1634">TS</a>]

00:27:16   but they also are thinking and have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1636">TS</a>]

00:27:19   plan their you know they have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1639">TS</a>]

00:27:20   collection they stopped assimilating at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1640">TS</a>]

00:27:22   a certain deck because that's all they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1642">TS</a>]

00:27:23   need at that point right get what they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1643">TS</a>]

00:27:25   need so that makes them even scarier if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1645">TS</a>]

00:27:27   they were just you know mindlessly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1647">TS</a>]

00:27:29   assimilating I don't they keep coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1649">TS</a>]

00:27:31   exactly like i felt dumb for not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1651">TS</a>]

00:27:32   realizing you even though I've seen this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1652">TS</a>]

00:27:34   movie several times including in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1654">TS</a>]

00:27:35   theaters i felt dumb for never really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1655">TS</a>]

00:27:37   drawing that zombie parallel and I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1657">TS</a>]

00:27:39   maybe that's because at the time it felt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1659">TS</a>]

00:27:40   like zombies were not as big thing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1660">TS</a>]

00:27:42   they are now you know that would be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1662">TS</a>]

00:27:44   constant like walking dead and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1664">TS</a>]

00:27:46   everything like that but the it really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1666">TS</a>]

00:27:48   is such a great line of course they call [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1668">TS</a>]

00:27:49   it out by guy she he describes them as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1669">TS</a>]

00:27:51   cyborg zombies to Lily at one point but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1671">TS</a>]

00:27:55   it is really good like the assimilation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1675">TS</a>]

00:27:57   rights writedowns like don't let them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1677">TS</a>]

00:27:58   touch you don't let them bite you right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1678">TS</a>]

00:27:59   like you'll be infected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1679">TS</a>]

00:28:01   you know in that aspect of it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1681">TS</a>]

00:28:03   mirroring the horror movie part of it i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1683">TS</a>]

00:28:04   think is is very very clever and very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1684">TS</a>]

00:28:07   savvy and they take a lot of cues from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1687">TS</a>]

00:28:08   that genre and they they really they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1688">TS</a>]

00:28:11   assimilated a genre pretty well in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1691">TS</a>]

00:28:13   cinema say one thing i like about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1693">TS</a>]

00:28:15   board as villains that's an interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1695">TS</a>]

00:28:18   twist i think on some of the core [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1698">TS</a>]

00:28:21   premises of star track which is that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1701">TS</a>]

00:28:23   know it's a serious devoted to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1703">TS</a>]

00:28:26   exploration the idea that we can meet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1706">TS</a>]

00:28:29   the alien species other intelligent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1709">TS</a>]

00:28:32   beings and work with them and cooperate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1712">TS</a>]

00:28:35   with them and the board should have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1715">TS</a>]

00:28:36   raised the question what if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1716">TS</a>]

00:28:38   encounter something that is profoundly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1718">TS</a>]

00:28:40   alien right that isn't that that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1720">TS</a>]

00:28:43   does not into come close to perceiving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1723">TS</a>]

00:28:46   the world anyway like you do that has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1726">TS</a>]

00:28:48   its own own sort of like actually the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1728">TS</a>]

00:28:52   world like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1732">TS</a>]

00:28:53   ideology that is / it almost profoundly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1733">TS</a>]

00:28:57   auntie life does not fit what do you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1737">TS</a>]

00:29:01   with something like that that does not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1741">TS</a>]

00:29:02   fit with your sense of what what ought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1742">TS</a>]

00:29:06   to be and I I just like I like how that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1746">TS</a>]

00:29:11   how that profound alien this access road [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1751">TS</a>]

00:29:16   like a challenge to shred of inmates [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1756">TS</a>]

00:29:19   this is one of the threads of the movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1759">TS</a>]

00:29:21   like it's not just Picard's PTSD here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1761">TS</a>]

00:29:23   but in a real way the board acted sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1763">TS</a>]

00:29:28   of like a you know you think you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1768">TS</a>]

00:29:30   have this Federation but here's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1770">TS</a>]

00:29:32   something that just will not fit well I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1772">TS</a>]

00:29:34   mean it's me it's multiculturalism [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1774">TS</a>]

00:29:35   versus a simulation if you want to boil [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1775">TS</a>]

00:29:37   it down right because these are both the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1777">TS</a>]

00:29:39   Federation is all about finding new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1779">TS</a>]

00:29:40   worlds and new people and bringing them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1780">TS</a>]

00:29:42   into their happy kind of community and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1782">TS</a>]

00:29:45   the border about finding new worlds and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1785">TS</a>]

00:29:46   finding new people and taking what they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1786">TS</a>]

00:29:48   want from them and incorporating it into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1788">TS</a>]

00:29:50   a single assimilated hole which is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1790">TS</a>]

00:29:53   to go too far down this path but I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1793">TS</a>]

00:29:54   in some ways they're diabetic coma [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1794">TS</a>]

00:29:57   diametrically opposed in some ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1797">TS</a>]

00:29:58   they're kind of similar and that that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1798">TS</a>]

00:30:00   kind of interesting to like I love that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1800">TS</a>]

00:30:03   the board queen who is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1803">TS</a>]

00:30:04   representation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1804">TS</a>]

00:30:05   I think it's a very smart decision by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1805">TS</a>]

00:30:06   the screenplay by the way to have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1806">TS</a>]

00:30:08   character who is a representation of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1808">TS</a>]

00:30:10   board collective because otherwise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1810">TS</a>]

00:30:12   they're kind of totally faceless but she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1812">TS</a>]

00:30:14   makes this argument right like what do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1814">TS</a>]

00:30:16   you mean data we we go find the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1816">TS</a>]

00:30:18   stuff and we're we're trying to achieve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1818">TS</a>]

00:30:20   perfection by picking the best of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1820">TS</a>]

00:30:22   everybody and creating me one perfect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1822">TS</a>]

00:30:24   life-form in the galaxy there's a way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1824">TS</a>]

00:30:27   there's not way and what's this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1827">TS</a>]

00:30:29   the Borg Queen and that concede is in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1829">TS</a>]

00:30:31   dialogue with Star Trek six instead of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1831">TS</a>]

00:30:36   the the conversation early on in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1836">TS</a>]

00:30:39   movie among the Klingons about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1839">TS</a>]

00:30:41   Federation as this as this project that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1841">TS</a>]

00:30:45   will wipe away click on cultural [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1845">TS</a>]

00:30:47   distinctives the Klingons will lose some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1847">TS</a>]

00:30:50   essence of who they are in joining up or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1850">TS</a>]

00:30:53   even even beginning the process of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1853">TS</a>]

00:30:55   joining up with the Federation I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1855">TS</a>]

00:30:57   know how intentional that isn't given [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1857">TS</a>]

00:30:59   the run more was co-writer I'm if I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1859">TS</a>]

00:31:02   a feeling that it probably was a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1862">TS</a>]

00:31:03   intentional but there is definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1863">TS</a>]

00:31:06   some dialogue in those ideas explains a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1866">TS</a>]

00:31:09   lot about collects it by the way if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1869">TS</a>]

00:31:15   look closely at some of the Borg in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1875">TS</a>]

00:31:18   background throughout this film you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1878">TS</a>]

00:31:21   they had they had way more budget and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1881">TS</a>]

00:31:23   way more time to do the makeup so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1883">TS</a>]

00:31:25   instead of just being a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1885">TS</a>]

00:31:26   humanoid-looking boring if you look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1886">TS</a>]

00:31:29   closely there are Klingon border and in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1889">TS</a>]

00:31:31   romulus and Vulcans and Bolians and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1891">TS</a>]

00:31:34   know they they took the time to rethink [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1894">TS</a>]

00:31:37   how they looked and make all those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1897">TS</a>]

00:31:40   different aliens into board to which you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1900">TS</a>]

00:31:43   know very subtle thing and it was quite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1903">TS</a>]

00:31:45   the boon for the Borg expansion set of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1905">TS</a>]

00:31:48   the star trek customizable car get haha [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1908">TS</a>]

00:31:51   just oh just just head out nervous all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1911">TS</a>]

00:31:55   so John Syracuse and I every now and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1915">TS</a>]

00:31:57   then talk about what if things are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1917">TS</a>]

00:31:58   robots are not at one point he and i had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1918">TS</a>]

00:32:01   a baby a wacky conversation where we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1921">TS</a>]

00:32:02   were talking about if you took a robot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1922">TS</a>]

00:32:04   and added organic things would it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1924">TS</a>]

00:32:07   it become to become a cyborg from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1927">TS</a>]

00:32:09   other direction which is kind of what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1929">TS</a>]

00:32:10   the board Queens trying to do to data [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1930">TS</a>]

00:32:12   here but I think that's fascinating that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1932">TS</a>]

00:32:14   the Borg so many stories i think we see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1934">TS</a>]

00:32:17   in Star Trek and another science fiction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1937">TS</a>]

00:32:19   are about computer intelligences machine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1939">TS</a>]

00:32:22   intelligence features and things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1942">TS</a>]

00:32:24   that are saying we're going to perfect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1944">TS</a>]

00:32:25   everything by being logical and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1945">TS</a>]

00:32:28   making everything into a computer and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1948">TS</a>]

00:32:31   the board isn't like that it's actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1951">TS</a>]

00:32:32   one of the things that I find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1952">TS</a>]

00:32:33   fascinating about the board is the Board [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1953">TS</a>]

00:32:35   believes that the ultimate perfection in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1955">TS</a>]

00:32:37   life is a synthesis of organic life and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1957">TS</a>]

00:32:41   machinery and so data is intriguing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1961">TS</a>]

00:32:44   them but also still kind of offensive to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1964">TS</a>]

00:32:47   them because data is just a machine data [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1967">TS</a>]

00:32:49   is a failure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1969">TS</a>]

00:32:51   Amanda would say this to write data [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1971">TS</a>]

00:32:52   wants to be more human and and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1972">TS</a>]

00:32:54   board's perspective is yeah you do need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1974">TS</a>]

00:32:57   to be more human because machines are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1977">TS</a>]

00:32:58   just as bad as pure organics as as we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1978">TS</a>]

00:33:01   were watching earlier the kids both went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1981">TS</a>]

00:33:03   wee wee don't want to know where they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1983">TS</a>]

00:33:05   got the skin for day and said no you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1985">TS</a>]

00:33:08   really that bored always have a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1988">TS</a>]

00:33:10   skin that implies that they grew it or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1990">TS</a>]

00:33:12   something like that but yeah we don't we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1992">TS</a>]

00:33:13   don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1993">TS</a>]

00:33:14   wanna know where the things that makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1994">TS</a>]

00:33:16   the board so effective is that they take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/1996">TS</a>]

00:33:20   familiar things and they make them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2000">TS</a>]

00:33:22   unfamiliar right so there are simulating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2002">TS</a>]

00:33:23   the enterprise and they have that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2003">TS</a>]

00:33:25   there's a great scene where they go from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2005">TS</a>]

00:33:26   the normal corridor you know in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2006">TS</a>]

00:33:28   early in the movie when they're figure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2008">TS</a>]

00:33:30   out the border on the enterprise and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2010">TS</a>]

00:33:31   they're walking down a corridor and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2011">TS</a>]

00:33:33   suddenly you know they turn a corner and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2013">TS</a>]

00:33:36   it's the same corridor except its border [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2016">TS</a>]

00:33:38   five and so now suddenly it's an alien [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2018">TS</a>]

00:33:41   space but yet there's an underlying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2021">TS</a>]

00:33:43   familiarity of it so that makes it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2023">TS</a>]

00:33:44   creepy and then of course they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2024">TS</a>]

00:33:46   assimilate people you know and change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2026">TS</a>]

00:33:48   the way they look datas look changes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2028">TS</a>]

00:33:50   because the graft all the skin on to him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2030">TS</a>]

00:33:53   that shot where they show that the earth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2033">TS</a>]

00:33:56   has been assimilated it's a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2036">TS</a>]

00:33:57   familiar shot of the earth but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2037">TS</a>]

00:33:59   slightly different so it's very very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2039">TS</a>]

00:34:00   effective [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2040">TS</a>]

00:34:01   it's like a literal nightmare you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2041">TS</a>]

00:34:03   when you have those dreams where it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2043">TS</a>]

00:34:04   like I was in my house but it's not my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2044">TS</a>]

00:34:05   house and someone was there but they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2045">TS</a>]

00:34:07   weren't that person and that's exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2047">TS</a>]

00:34:09   that zombies and body horror and I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2049">TS</a>]

00:34:11   it's all kind of wrapped together I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2051">TS</a>]

00:34:12   think any other thoughts about that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2052">TS</a>]

00:34:14   the board the board queen i really like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2054">TS</a>]

00:34:16   Alice creek here i love the shot where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2056">TS</a>]

00:34:18   she comes down from the rafters and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2058">TS</a>]

00:34:19   just because everyone because that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2059">TS</a>]

00:34:22   says it all right that says this is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2062">TS</a>]

00:34:23   a person right this is not a human [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2063">TS</a>]

00:34:25   person anyway this is something very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2065">TS</a>]

00:34:27   different and and it's just it's just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2067">TS</a>]

00:34:30   great moment i love it as you and she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2070">TS</a>]

00:34:32   gets in her little outfit and then just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2072">TS</a>]

00:34:34   starts to walk it's like why even now I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2074">TS</a>]

00:34:36   like that i love that shot and I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2076">TS</a>]

00:34:38   really like this character too and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2078">TS</a>]

00:34:39   agree I my question i guess for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2079">TS</a>]

00:34:41   rescue I'm kind of curious like coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2081">TS</a>]

00:34:42   into this from you know your experiences [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2082">TS</a>]

00:34:45   with the Borg in the series to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2085">TS</a>]

00:34:48   seemed like does it seem really on board [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2088">TS</a>]

00:34:50   like I mean they they have a data gets a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2090">TS</a>]

00:34:52   nice shot off he's like oh you can't be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2092">TS</a>]

00:34:54   an individual because that's not what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2094">TS</a>]

00:34:55   the Borg are and she's like well you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2095">TS</a>]

00:34:57   know sort of its but it's a weird it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2097">TS</a>]

00:35:00   not something we've really seen that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2100">TS</a>]

00:35:02   much of from the board we do have like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2102">TS</a>]

00:35:03   Hugh early on and stuff like that right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2103">TS</a>]

00:35:05   where we have semi individuals of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2105">TS</a>]

00:35:08   later we have seven of nine on Voyager [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2108">TS</a>]

00:35:10   but it seems it's an interesting choice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2110">TS</a>]

00:35:13   because it does put a face on what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2113">TS</a>]

00:35:15   otherwise this gigantic monolithic bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2115">TS</a>]

00:35:18   guy and I was curious to know if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2118">TS</a>]

00:35:20   guys felt like that was a that was an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2120">TS</a>]

00:35:21   odd choice or no I think it's a really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2121">TS</a>]

00:35:23   good choice especially going forward on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2123">TS</a>]

00:35:25   Voyager like a lot of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2125">TS</a>]

00:35:27   best episodes of season 6 and 7 or all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2127">TS</a>]

00:35:30   about the board queen and you know Jason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2130">TS</a>]

00:35:32   you're talking about liking the shot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2132">TS</a>]

00:35:33   where she comes down like they you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2133">TS</a>]

00:35:37   see the the special version of it like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2137">TS</a>]

00:35:40   with the special effects shots were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2140">TS</a>]

00:35:41   there they have on a crane they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2141">TS</a>]

00:35:43   lowering her down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2143">TS</a>]

00:35:45   Voyager had a shot that I think even it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2145">TS</a>]

00:35:49   surpasses that is her entire body being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2149">TS</a>]

00:35:52   put together from scratch it's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2152">TS</a>]

00:35:54   really awesome probably the the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2154">TS</a>]

00:35:56   technical moment of Voyager special [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2156">TS</a>]

00:35:58   effects so I think I i really like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2158">TS</a>]

00:36:01   because I think she does kind of thumb [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2161">TS</a>]

00:36:03   is she gives you no conflict in science [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2163">TS</a>]

00:36:08   fiction like it's it's basically about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2168">TS</a>]

00:36:10   mirroring human emotion right so i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2170">TS</a>]

00:36:13   when it's more amorphous I think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2173">TS</a>]

00:36:15   really hard to get at the heart of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2175">TS</a>]

00:36:17   that said I think that the biggest flaw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2177">TS</a>]

00:36:19   at least to me in first contact is you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2179">TS</a>]

00:36:23   know the data board Queen subplot i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2183">TS</a>]

00:36:26   think it is a little bit mod1 I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2186">TS</a>]

00:36:29   Star Trek tends to go down the road of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2189">TS</a>]

00:36:31   someone that wants to be human just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2191">TS</a>]

00:36:33   about two or three times too many and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2193">TS</a>]

00:36:36   it's just down it didn't really land for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2196">TS</a>]

00:36:38   me and I think it's because you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2198">TS</a>]

00:36:40   brent Spiner is acting just can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2200">TS</a>]

00:36:42   compete with other people in the movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2202">TS</a>]

00:36:44   to be honest I disagree on a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2204">TS</a>]

00:36:47   different levels but uh because the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2207">TS</a>]

00:36:51   another way you're saying you're talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2211">TS</a>]

00:36:52   about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2212">TS</a>]

00:36:53   I don't feel like it holds up as well as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2213">TS</a>]

00:36:55   the shot in first contact because this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2215">TS</a>]

00:36:58   is mostly photographic with like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2218">TS</a>]

00:37:00   paintwork and like I don't know elastic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2220">TS</a>]

00:37:01   reality or wear these for the morphing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2221">TS</a>]

00:37:03   that pulls off this effect is not as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2223">TS</a>]

00:37:06   complex or as intricate conceptually but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2226">TS</a>]

00:37:09   I feel like wind up looking better over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2229">TS</a>]

00:37:12   the years because the other one was just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2232">TS</a>]

00:37:14   kind of a little shiny if you go back in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2234">TS</a>]

00:37:16   and when watching this this works out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2236">TS</a>]

00:37:19   well for me and I i do like Prince [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2239">TS</a>]

00:37:22   acting off of her there couple scenes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2242">TS</a>]

00:37:25   where he's he's hitting it a little hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2245">TS</a>]

00:37:26   but it's it's AIT's it's nice to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2246">TS</a>]

00:37:30   this sort of unusual seduction compared [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2250">TS</a>]

00:37:35   to I feel like some of the more typical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2255">TS</a>]

00:37:37   star trek romances that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2257">TS</a>]

00:37:39   we see play out because this is very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2259">TS</a>]

00:37:41   alien on many levels to to watch these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2261">TS</a>]

00:37:45   these to interact as opposed to you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2265">TS</a>]

00:37:49   some of the more traditional things of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2269">TS</a>]

00:37:50   of different characters trying to appeal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2270">TS</a>]

00:37:52   to one another in order to accomplish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2272">TS</a>]

00:37:54   their goals and that you know what might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2274">TS</a>]

00:37:55   be a different alien race or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2275">TS</a>]

00:37:57   but mainly comes out like pointed ears [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2277">TS</a>]

00:37:58   and and this is it is something other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2278">TS</a>]

00:38:02   entirely there are moments where I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2282">TS</a>]

00:38:04   especially towards the end where brent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2284">TS</a>]

00:38:05   Spiner doesn't do as good a job but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2285">TS</a>]

00:38:07   think the the when they're doing their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2287">TS</a>]

00:38:08   Goldfinger kind of number there and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2288">TS</a>]

00:38:10   keeps saying things like like that seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2290">TS</a>]

00:38:13   that's an interesting story but i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2293">TS</a>]

00:38:15   think i believe it's friday he's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2295">TS</a>]

00:38:17   skeptical i really like all of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2297">TS</a>]

00:38:19   later later it's maybe not as strong but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2299">TS</a>]

00:38:22   I i do like that because of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2302">TS</a>]

00:38:23   temptations of the flesh that she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2303">TS</a>]

00:38:25   offering to data I feel like that that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2305">TS</a>]

00:38:27   just like laying it out there as plain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2307">TS</a>]

00:38:29   as day of like organic life is something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2309">TS</a>]

00:38:32   that we can provide to you you can be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2312">TS</a>]

00:38:34   more than you are and that's what he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2314">TS</a>]

00:38:35   told us for seven seasons that he always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2315">TS</a>]

00:38:38   wanted and and it also sets up the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2318">TS</a>]

00:38:40   question of like is going to be tempted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2320">TS</a>]

00:38:41   which we find out later he was tempted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2321">TS</a>]

00:38:43   for six tenths of a second which is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2323">TS</a>]

00:38:44   eternity for Androids [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2324">TS</a>]

00:38:46   I i do ultimately I i really like those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2326">TS</a>]

00:38:50   scenes although i think that maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2330">TS</a>]

00:38:51   they're they're not toward the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2331">TS</a>]

00:38:53   they're not quite as well put together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2333">TS</a>]

00:38:54   but I i remember watching it with my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2334">TS</a>]

00:38:56   father and his immediate reaction to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2336">TS</a>]

00:38:58   board Queen was oh no no there are no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2338">TS</a>]

00:39:01   individuals no no and I thought well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2341">TS</a>]

00:39:05   alright that's no that makes sense but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2345">TS</a>]

00:39:07   the more I thought about it night and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2347">TS</a>]

00:39:09   got him to watch it again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2349">TS</a>]

00:39:11   what's the one thing we know about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2351">TS</a>]

00:39:12   board they adapt what do they do in when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2352">TS</a>]

00:39:15   they're firing their weapons they adapt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2355">TS</a>]

00:39:17   to you know they had their shields they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2357">TS</a>]

00:39:19   have to keep shifting frequencies they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2359">TS</a>]

00:39:21   do all these things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2361">TS</a>]

00:39:21   this is just an adaptation this is what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2361">TS</a>]

00:39:23   they have to do to conquer earth and to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2363">TS</a>]

00:39:26   conquer humanity and I thought that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2366">TS</a>]

00:39:28   you know it's not obvious they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2368">TS</a>]

00:39:30   they don't like hold up a sign and go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2370">TS</a>]

00:39:32   see here's what we're doing but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2372">TS</a>]

00:39:34   thought that worked really well and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2374">TS</a>]

00:39:36   I liked where it developed into Voyager [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2376">TS</a>]

00:39:37   she's not over explained here either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2377">TS</a>]

00:39:40   right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2380">TS</a>]

00:39:40   basically I I like that she's like well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2380">TS</a>]

00:39:43   you know the words are individuals and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2383">TS</a>]

00:39:44   she's like it's complicated you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2384">TS</a>]

00:39:46   understand how complicated we are and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2386">TS</a>]

00:39:48   like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2388">TS</a>]

00:39:49   like humans you don't get you you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2389">TS</a>]

00:39:51   you know the Borg but we are way more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2391">TS</a>]

00:39:53   complex than that and then they don't go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2393">TS</a>]

00:39:54   into it i like it because it's like yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2394">TS</a>]

00:39:56   okay i could buy that and we've already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2396">TS</a>]

00:39:57   seen the cutest right we gave we took a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2397">TS</a>]

00:40:00   person gave them a name while they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2400">TS</a>]

00:40:01   assimilated it's like okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2401">TS</a>]

00:40:03   the board will do what they want to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2403">TS</a>]

00:40:04   and if they are a hivemind sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2404">TS</a>]

00:40:06   having a queen bee makes sense so and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2406">TS</a>]

00:40:10   and you know and what we get then is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2410">TS</a>]

00:40:12   spokesperson for the board which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2412">TS</a>]

00:40:13   really what we need in order for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2413">TS</a>]

00:40:15   board to be a little more than a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2415">TS</a>]

00:40:17   faceless automatons which is what they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2417">TS</a>]

00:40:20   were kind of next-generation I like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2420">TS</a>]

00:40:21   scene with Picard and the board Queen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2421">TS</a>]

00:40:23   where he's like but the ship oh i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2423">TS</a>]

00:40:25   remember when i was little cute i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2425">TS</a>]

00:40:27   remember you but that ship was blown up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2427">TS</a>]

00:40:28   and she looks at him with the stain and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2428">TS</a>]

00:40:30   says he's making such three-dimensional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2430">TS</a>]

00:40:32   terms that body is if you know her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2432">TS</a>]

00:40:36   that body is not her she is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2436">TS</a>]

00:40:37   individual kind of but she's also a part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2437">TS</a>]

00:40:41   of the collective so that body just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2441">TS</a>]

00:40:42   appears whenever she needs it to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2442">TS</a>]

00:40:44   because she is where the board is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2444">TS</a>]

00:40:46   because she is bored like the Trinity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2446">TS</a>]

00:40:48   people i mean even when they named him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2448">TS</a>]

00:40:49   Locutus they they did make it pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2449">TS</a>]

00:40:51   clear that they named him that because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2451">TS</a>]

00:40:54   they felt they needed a spokesman they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2454">TS</a>]

00:40:56   needed someone to communicate yeah so it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2456">TS</a>]

00:40:59   makes sense to me and I like the idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2459">TS</a>]

00:41:00   that it's that you know she's she's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2460">TS</a>]

00:41:02   an individual who runs the Borg she is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2462">TS</a>]

00:41:04   the body that they have created in order [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2464">TS</a>]

00:41:08   to represent the you know the board in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2468">TS</a>]

00:41:11   conversation first first among equals [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2471">TS</a>]

00:41:13   you could say that she's the devil that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2473">TS</a>]

00:41:15   they needed for data in some ways right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2475">TS</a>]

00:41:17   since to tempt data that may be why she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2477">TS</a>]

00:41:19   is there is because they did thats you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2479">TS</a>]

00:41:22   know she's required at that point it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2482">TS</a>]

00:41:24   not like they said it's not like they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2484">TS</a>]

00:41:26   say oh well she's going to start the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2486">TS</a>]

00:41:28   hive here on earth after we kill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2488">TS</a>]

00:41:30   everybody and we've got a whole plan to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2490">TS</a>]

00:41:32   do all of that so don't go into that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2492">TS</a>]

00:41:34   which i really like to just leave it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2494">TS</a>]

00:41:35   it's complicated it's more than three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2495">TS</a>]

00:41:37   dimensional humans wouldn't understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2497">TS</a>]

00:41:40   us and another moment i like is when the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2500">TS</a>]

00:41:42   instructor dish like they get the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2502">TS</a>]

00:41:45   dish off and that plan has stopped and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2505">TS</a>]

00:41:47   there's a moment she looks up and she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2507">TS</a>]

00:41:49   obviously realizes what has happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2509">TS</a>]

00:41:51   because she is the board so she knows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2511">TS</a>]

00:41:52   what everything is going on and she says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2512">TS</a>]

00:41:54   change of plans [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2514">TS</a>]

00:41:55   yeah it's still a villain and and but ya [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2515">TS</a>]

00:41:59   gotta collect villain it's good it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2519">TS</a>]

00:42:01   really good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2521">TS</a>]

00:42:02   Alice creek just good job it's a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2522">TS</a>]

00:42:04   performance and absolutely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2524">TS</a>]

00:42:05   this movie is so well cast you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2525">TS</a>]

00:42:09   is it's it's not nothing against some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2529">TS</a>]

00:42:12   the other castes but everyone even the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2532">TS</a>]

00:42:15   smallest parts are really nicely cast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2535">TS</a>]

00:42:18   and and especially you know Alfre [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2538">TS</a>]

00:42:20   Woodard and James Cromwell and analysis [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2540">TS</a>]

00:42:22   creek [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2542">TS</a>]

00:42:23   come on yeah I know McDonough he dies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2543">TS</a>]

00:42:26   well uh huh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2546">TS</a>]

00:42:29   let's talk about it from Cochrane so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2549">TS</a>]

00:42:31   down on the planet down on earth i keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2551">TS</a>]

00:42:33   calling it the planet but it's earth its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2553">TS</a>]

00:42:34   21st mid twenty-first century or not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2554">TS</a>]

00:42:37   that far from now we've got a third [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2557">TS</a>]

00:42:39   world war two learn to live through as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2559">TS</a>]

00:42:41   real star trek that late 20th and early [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2561">TS</a>]

00:42:43   21st century had world war three it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2563">TS</a>]

00:42:45   very bad we survived their eugenics wars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2565">TS</a>]

00:42:47   already so we're doing all right blue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2567">TS</a>]

00:42:49   super soap so down in Montana an old the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2569">TS</a>]

00:42:52   nuclear missile silo Zefram Cochrane who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2572">TS</a>]

00:42:55   is this character who was mentioned and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2575">TS</a>]

00:42:58   shown sort of in his secret post faking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2578">TS</a>]

00:43:01   his death life being a very different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2581">TS</a>]

00:43:04   kind of guy but hey it was a long time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2584">TS</a>]

00:43:06   later but he was always supposed to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2586">TS</a>]

00:43:08   the man who invented the warp drive so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2588">TS</a>]

00:43:09   here we see it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2589">TS</a>]

00:43:10   he is a hard-drinking scientists who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2590">TS</a>]

00:43:12   enjoys rockabilly on a jukebox [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2592">TS</a>]

00:43:14   ok who so sure it so good possibility is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2594">TS</a>]

00:43:18   best on a jukebox i really like his coat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2598">TS</a>]

00:43:21   by the way impactful overall were there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2601">TS</a>]

00:43:24   it's a giant winner for me especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2604">TS</a>]

00:43:26   compared to Picard space cardigan which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2606">TS</a>]

00:43:28   I find pretty lame yeah he's got a job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2608">TS</a>]

00:43:30   he's got a jug head hat yeah I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2610">TS</a>]

00:43:33   Picard's 21st century earth outfit the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2613">TS</a>]

00:43:35   pants those pants are amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2615">TS</a>]

00:43:38   yeah so that we get different conference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2618">TS</a>]

00:43:40   down here and he's a and he's we meet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2620">TS</a>]

00:43:44   him and he's without talking to Lily but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2624">TS</a>]

00:43:46   then there's a there's an attack and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2626">TS</a>]

00:43:49   by the Borg and and lily has to be taken [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2629">TS</a>]

00:43:51   back to the ship so Cochran is down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2631">TS</a>]

00:43:53   there essentially with Ryker and Troy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2633">TS</a>]

00:43:55   and then an engineering team that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2635">TS</a>]

00:43:58   going to help fix the damage to his ship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2638">TS</a>]

00:44:00   so that he can take off the next day and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2640">TS</a>]

00:44:02   that's that's the you could see that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2642">TS</a>]

00:44:04   kind of story line right where there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2644">TS</a>]

00:44:06   there's a technical store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2646">TS</a>]

00:44:09   about fixing the ship one of the things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2649">TS</a>]

00:44:10   that this movie does so well is that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2650">TS</a>]

00:44:13   not what this whole segment is about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2653">TS</a>]

00:44:15   it's about Zefram Cochrane is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2655">TS</a>]

00:44:16   character which first off kind of a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2656">TS</a>]

00:44:18   deal for star trek movie to spend so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2658">TS</a>]

00:44:19   much time on a character arc of somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2659">TS</a>]

00:44:21   who's not one of the seven regular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2661">TS</a>]

00:44:23   characters but it's really good because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2663">TS</a>]

00:44:26   it's what somebody told you that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2666">TS</a>]

00:44:28   were one of the most famous people in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2668">TS</a>]

00:44:29   history and what you're about to do is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2669">TS</a>]

00:44:31   going to change everything and then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2671">TS</a>]

00:44:32   feel the weight of history pressing down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2672">TS</a>]

00:44:35   on you and that's what happens to that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2675">TS</a>]

00:44:37   from cochran here they're funny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2677">TS</a>]

00:44:39   there's there's a lot of funny stuff too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2679">TS</a>]

00:44:40   i really like the stuff with Ryker and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2680">TS</a>]

00:44:43   Troy I feel like jonathan frakes is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2683">TS</a>]

00:44:45   never better as Ryker than he is in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2685">TS</a>]

00:44:47   scene where he finds droid drunk at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2687">TS</a>]

00:44:49   bar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2689">TS</a>]

00:44:49   yep that was a great sea mile to smell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2689">TS</a>]

00:44:52   you just smile on his face but the smile [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2692">TS</a>]

00:44:54   in his eyes is perfect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2694">TS</a>]

00:44:56   yeah LeVar Burton gets to go full [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2696">TS</a>]

00:44:57   reading rainbow at one point statue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2697">TS</a>]

00:45:00   yes don't take my word for it he's got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2700">TS</a>]

00:45:03   very specific like diction and cadence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2703">TS</a>]

00:45:05   there and I kept thinking of my cats are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2705">TS</a>]

00:45:07   reading rainbow episode but mine own for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2707">TS</a>]

00:45:08   this part mainly just reads don't meet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2708">TS</a>]

00:45:10   your heroes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2710">TS</a>]

00:45:11   yeah I do love the part with Georgie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2711">TS</a>]

00:45:14   says I probably shouldn't tell you this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2714">TS</a>]

00:45:15   but I went to separate cock again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2715">TS</a>]

00:45:17   yeah well there's that moment later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2717">TS</a>]

00:45:21   where Riker says to Jordi you told him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2721">TS</a>]

00:45:24   about the Statue Like don't just because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2724">TS</a>]

00:45:28   he's really runs off at one point and is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2728">TS</a>]

00:45:30   drinking in the in the wilderness and is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2730">TS</a>]

00:45:32   going to try to hide from them because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2732">TS</a>]

00:45:33   you just can't take it anymore Barkley [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2733">TS</a>]

00:45:35   of course once his autograph essentially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2735">TS</a>]

00:45:37   but i really like that that he is not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2737">TS</a>]

00:45:40   he's kind of a strange guy who's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2740">TS</a>]

00:45:42   building a spaceship out of a nuclear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2742">TS</a>]

00:45:44   missile complex on his own he's figured [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2744">TS</a>]

00:45:45   out warp drive and it's fine when it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2745">TS</a>]

00:45:48   just him and his friends messing around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2748">TS</a>]

00:45:49   trying to build this thing but then when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2749">TS</a>]

00:45:52   he when he sees the history of it he has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2752">TS</a>]

00:45:55   a hard time living up to it and I just I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2755">TS</a>]

00:45:57   really enjoy all of these parts i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2757">TS</a>]

00:45:59   james cromwell does a great job with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2759">TS</a>]

00:46:00   this character and I and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2760">TS</a>]

00:46:03   there's a funny moment when they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2763">TS</a>]

00:46:05   launched and he and then there were they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2765">TS</a>]

00:46:06   have to abort the launch because he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2766">TS</a>]

00:46:07   can't find it the thing that's important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2767">TS</a>]

00:46:09   it's because he wants to play magic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2769">TS</a>]

00:46:10   carpet ride while they launched into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2770">TS</a>]

00:46:12   space office sony minidisc it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2772">TS</a>]

00:46:14   quite of the Beastie Boys roughly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2774">TS</a>]

00:46:17   one haha what I like about it is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2777">TS</a>]

00:46:21   after we've spent this too much time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2781">TS</a>]

00:46:23   with Ephram Cochran do we really doubt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2783">TS</a>]

00:46:25   that he's got a song picked out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2785">TS</a>]

00:46:27   I don't ya i believe it yeah and James [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2787">TS</a>]

00:46:30   Cromwell is one of those actors i grew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2790">TS</a>]

00:46:32   up watching him and he you know he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2792">TS</a>]

00:46:34   one of those it's that guy in you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2794">TS</a>]

00:46:36   he was stretch Cunningham on all in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2796">TS</a>]

00:46:38   family he was on places like five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2798">TS</a>]

00:46:40   different people on Barney Miller and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2800">TS</a>]

00:46:41   really until he was in babe know he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2801">TS</a>]

00:46:44   just hey it's that guy right yeah babe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2804">TS</a>]

00:46:46   and LA confidential and then I think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2806">TS</a>]

00:46:48   Joe link to the the roger ebert review [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2808">TS</a>]

00:46:51   of first contact which wich dread which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2811">TS</a>]

00:46:54   calls from james caldwell the tall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2814">TS</a>]

00:46:56   farmer from babe and I was like yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2816">TS</a>]

00:46:57   that's also where that you're arguing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2817">TS</a>]

00:46:59   but I was like you know he's just this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2819">TS</a>]

00:47:03   funny guy who appears on 76 comes and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2823">TS</a>]

00:47:07   and oh he's so good in this and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2827">TS</a>]

00:47:10   comedy scenes on earth especially with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2830">TS</a>]

00:47:13   Zefram Cochrane interacting with all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2833">TS</a>]

00:47:15   the other cast and crew we we get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2835">TS</a>]

00:47:17   history if you don't figure out that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2837">TS</a>]

00:47:19   familiar star trek but you also get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2839">TS</a>]

00:47:21   moment to release some of the tension [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2841">TS</a>]

00:47:23   that builds up in the action scenes that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2843">TS</a>]

00:47:25   are happening on the enterprise whenever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2845">TS</a>]

00:47:26   we cut back to this weekend we can sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2846">TS</a>]

00:47:28   of like reset a little and come back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2848">TS</a>]

00:47:30   down and then we can go back to that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2850">TS</a>]

00:47:32   the actions can start to build up again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2852">TS</a>]

00:47:33   which is something that doesn't happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2853">TS</a>]

00:47:35   very often where you're just sleeping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2855">TS</a>]

00:47:37   from 10 gravity scene to another zero [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2857">TS</a>]

00:47:39   gravity scene and backhoe along the you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2859">TS</a>]

00:47:42   know gravity current any thing towards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2862">TS</a>]

00:47:44   the thing to release the switch to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2864">TS</a>]

00:47:46   levers or whatever so there's there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2866">TS</a>]

00:47:48   there's none of the it having this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2868">TS</a>]

00:47:51   comedy helps the story structurally too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2871">TS</a>]

00:47:54   because you can you can sort of relax [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2874">TS</a>]

00:47:57   and then get comfortable again it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2877">TS</a>]

00:47:59   just a constant barrage of of action p [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2879">TS</a>]

00:48:02   so over action piece yet again again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2882">TS</a>]

00:48:04   it's that balance and economy they they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2884">TS</a>]

00:48:06   trust the audience to go with them they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2886">TS</a>]

00:48:09   trust the audience not to explain so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2889">TS</a>]

00:48:11   many things and it's delightful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2891">TS</a>]

00:48:14   I think that it's a good use I I praised [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2894">TS</a>]

00:48:16   jonathan frakes performance directing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2896">TS</a>]

00:48:17   himself here but i think given how much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2897">TS</a>]

00:48:19   time he spent with marina sirtis i'm in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2899">TS</a>]

00:48:22   making the original next-generation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2902">TS</a>]

00:48:24   series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2904">TS</a>]

00:48:25   she's good here too and i'm not a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2905">TS</a>]

00:48:27   fan of Troy but I think that she this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2907">TS</a>]

00:48:30   the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2910">TS</a>]

00:48:30   Troy that she is you know they should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2910">TS</a>]

00:48:34   yeah she's got funny drunk things which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2914">TS</a>]

00:48:36   you know what records you're drunk it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2916">TS</a>]

00:48:38   like she's so drunk what you should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2918">TS</a>]

00:48:40   never say it but IM not what why does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2920">TS</a>]

00:48:44   she have that job it's like she knows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2924">TS</a>]

00:48:45   people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2925">TS</a>]

00:48:46   she's like she's like she's a counselor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2926">TS</a>]

00:48:48   she knows people she's the one you send [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2928">TS</a>]

00:48:50   in there to talk to this guy and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2930">TS</a>]

00:48:51   like all of her scenes i think are very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2931">TS</a>]

00:48:53   good and i'm not a fan of Troy and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2933">TS</a>]

00:48:56   next generation very much I i think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2936">TS</a>]

00:48:58   she was badly used but here she really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2938">TS</a>]

00:49:01   gets room to shine and I think she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2941">TS</a>]

00:49:02   really good i think with our Burton is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2942">TS</a>]

00:49:04   good here because what we're seeing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2944">TS</a>]

00:49:06   already doing his job right he's like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2946">TS</a>]

00:49:08   get to fix the ship that I learned about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2948">TS</a>]

00:49:10   in school that's awesome and he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2950">TS</a>]

00:49:12   instructing engineers to do all this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2952">TS</a>]

00:49:14   stuff and that's good too i love Georgie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2954">TS</a>]

00:49:16   is one of my favorite characters I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2956">TS</a>]

00:49:17   like he gets ill served a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2957">TS</a>]

00:49:19   next-generation episodes and this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2959">TS</a>]

00:49:20   really good use of him Troy as well I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2960">TS</a>]

00:49:23   like you i'm not a huge fan of her but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2963">TS</a>]

00:49:25   I think she does really well here we see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2965">TS</a>]

00:49:26   the chemistry between her and Riker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2966">TS</a>]

00:49:28   which a lot of times we had told about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2968">TS</a>]

00:49:30   but don't necessarily experience or its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2970">TS</a>]

00:49:32   melodramatic and over-the-top where is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2972">TS</a>]

00:49:34   this one seems like oh yeah these are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2974">TS</a>]

00:49:36   too long friends / sometimes partners [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2976">TS</a>]

00:49:39   who you know clearly have a rapport with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2979">TS</a>]

00:49:42   each other and and I think even the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2982">TS</a>]

00:49:44   drunk thing is funny to me because i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2984">TS</a>]

00:49:45   remember watching this as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2985">TS</a>]

00:49:46   sixteen-year-old and thinking wow one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2986">TS</a>]

00:49:50   the the next generation career is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2990">TS</a>]

00:49:51   getting drunk this is so like so wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2991">TS</a>]

00:49:55   it feels like so weird that he'd like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2995">TS</a>]

00:49:57   yeah scandalous good work well gene was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2997">TS</a>]

00:49:59   dead by then so it's okay huh what else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/2999">TS</a>]

00:50:01   to talk about here I I don't have a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3001">TS</a>]

00:50:03   of other notes these are the three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3003">TS</a>]

00:50:05   these are the three categories i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3005">TS</a>]

00:50:07   at the end when the stories come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3007">TS</a>]

00:50:08   together is pretty good we see the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3008">TS</a>]

00:50:09   shadow of this of the enterprise-e on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3009">TS</a>]

00:50:13   the controls on the Phoenix which is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3013">TS</a>]

00:50:15   warp ship and they say oh I'm sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3015">TS</a>]

00:50:17   they're just here just give us a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3017">TS</a>]

00:50:19   send-off but meanwhile data is targeting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3019">TS</a>]

00:50:20   them with quantum torpedoes and it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3020">TS</a>]

00:50:22   it's a very exciting moment and and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3022">TS</a>]

00:50:26   we discover of course data isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3026">TS</a>]

00:50:27   betraying them he's gonna he's gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3027">TS</a>]

00:50:30   miss they're gonna make their work jump [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3030">TS</a>]

00:50:32   and i will say maybe having a volatile [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3032">TS</a>]

00:50:37   material that will destroy all organic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3037">TS</a>]

00:50:39   material one bump from of a phaser rifle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3039">TS</a>]

00:50:43   away from killing everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3043">TS</a>]

00:50:44   engineering might be a design flaw but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3044">TS</a>]

00:50:46   it's good that it was a rise though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3046">TS</a>]

00:50:48   right like it doesn't go up that's nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3048">TS</a>]

00:50:49   it's very heavy out on the floor the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3049">TS</a>]

00:50:51   advantage of using some really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3051">TS</a>]

00:50:53   questionable nineties cg volumetric [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3053">TS</a>]

00:50:56   stuff i mean i think about just rates [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3056">TS</a>]

00:50:59   i'm not even sure this billion metric [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3059">TS</a>]

00:51:00   baby it looks it looks decidedly not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3060">TS</a>]

00:51:03   realistic in any capacity that's not yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3063">TS</a>]

00:51:06   I i had a couple random notes one which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3066">TS</a>]

00:51:08   was i love when Riker tries to explain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3068">TS</a>]

00:51:10   the cochrane you know in cochrane sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3070">TS</a>]

00:51:12   of repeats back to Mikey ok this is what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3072">TS</a>]

00:51:14   you're telling me there's a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3074">TS</a>]

00:51:16   like robots from the future trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3076">TS</a>]

00:51:18   come back and stop it's like he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3078">TS</a>]

00:51:19   literally just described terminator [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3079">TS</a>]

00:51:21   terminator [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3081">TS</a>]

00:51:22   well did you see the board queen at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3082">TS</a>]

00:51:23   end she's the Terminator yes you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3083">TS</a>]

00:51:26   she is determine areas is exactly i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3086">TS</a>]

00:51:28   very terminator head written in my notes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3088">TS</a>]

00:51:30   as well I also that Jonathan Franks must [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3090">TS</a>]

00:51:32   have a kink in his neck from looking up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3092">TS</a>]

00:51:34   the child james cromwell for this entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3094">TS</a>]

00:51:36   about it and he's a big man hands and oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3096">TS</a>]

00:51:40   yeah Patrick Stewart super-ripped good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3100">TS</a>]

00:51:42   for Patrick Stewart isn't it is it kinda [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3102">TS</a>]

00:51:46   depressing to think that like I i wish i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3106">TS</a>]

00:51:48   could like told myself in you Nadine I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3108">TS</a>]

00:51:51   60 i saw this so like Brianna every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3111">TS</a>]

00:51:53   single star trek movie see from here on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3113">TS</a>]

00:51:55   out it's not gonna be as good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3115">TS</a>]

00:51:57   like that's really depressing click [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3117">TS</a>]

00:52:00   2009.com despite you know I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3120">TS</a>]

00:52:04   we've had a truly great star trek movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3124">TS</a>]

00:52:05   since then and i would like to say a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3125">TS</a>]

00:52:08   samplin i wanted to mention the music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3128">TS</a>]

00:52:11   for a minute because this is jerry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3131">TS</a>]

00:52:12   goldsmith working on with his son Joel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3132">TS</a>]

00:52:15   and what I love about it is of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3135">TS</a>]

00:52:17   Jerry Goldsmith did the next generation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3137">TS</a>]

00:52:19   theme when it was the Star Trek the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3139">TS</a>]

00:52:21   motion picture theme and so we get that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3141">TS</a>]

00:52:23   here and I like that it's sort of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3143">TS</a>]

00:52:25   the night a nice uniting of the guy who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3145">TS</a>]

00:52:28   wrote the music for the show and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3148">TS</a>]

00:52:30   people who are actually from that show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3150">TS</a>]

00:52:32   y'all together the motion picture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3152">TS</a>]

00:52:34   Klingon theme for world's great and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3154">TS</a>]

00:52:39   first contact theme is fantastic i found [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3159">TS</a>]

00:52:41   myself wandering around just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3161">TS</a>]

00:52:42   whistling it's from myself after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3162">TS</a>]

00:52:44   watching the movie and there's a nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3164">TS</a>]

00:52:45   board theme to which is that when it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3165">TS</a>]

00:52:47   almost like the 2001 notes in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3167">TS</a>]

00:52:50   different weird different key with some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3170">TS</a>]

00:52:52   weird electronic on top of it but we see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3172">TS</a>]

00:52:54   we hear that when the board up here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3174">TS</a>]

00:52:57   throughout so I I really actually like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3177">TS</a>]

00:52:58   the score a lot because of the nostalgia [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3178">TS</a>]

00:53:00   and also because of the original stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3180">TS</a>]

00:53:03   that's in the movie I think it's pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3183">TS</a>]

00:53:04   good i mean there's a reason Goldsmith [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3184">TS</a>]

00:53:05   is a legend I mean I wouldn't rip this a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3185">TS</a>]

00:53:08   couple days ago to listen to it again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3188">TS</a>]

00:53:09   because i own a CD of it from from 1996 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3189">TS</a>]

00:53:12   which is the only place you can get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3192">TS</a>]

00:53:14   CDC's days and it's really it's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3194">TS</a>]

00:53:18   it's it's great it's a great score i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3198">TS</a>]

00:53:20   wish there I which I there were more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3200">TS</a>]

00:53:21   cues on the soundtrack but it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3201">TS</a>]

00:53:24   really solid and goldsmith does elevate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3204">TS</a>]

00:53:26   this in a way that a lot of the you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3206">TS</a>]

00:53:28   the TV stuff it's very different writing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3208">TS</a>]

00:53:30   music for you know 7 Series is 7 seasons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3210">TS</a>]

00:53:33   of a TV show than it is for writing for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3213">TS</a>]

00:53:35   a feature film and you know Jerry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3215">TS</a>]

00:53:37   Goldsmith once again displays why he is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3217">TS</a>]

00:53:38   an amazing amazing score [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3218">TS</a>]

00:53:41   yeah I think that's also one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3221">TS</a>]

00:53:42   things that for me kind of hurt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3222">TS</a>]

00:53:44   generations is this score by Dennis [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3224">TS</a>]

00:53:47   McCarthy does not have the very familiar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3227">TS</a>]

00:53:51   theme that you heard in every single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3231">TS</a>]

00:53:53   opening of every single star trek the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3233">TS</a>]

00:53:55   next generation episode so that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3235">TS</a>]

00:53:58   that theme from the original motion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3238">TS</a>]

00:54:00   picture was completely absent from that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3240">TS</a>]

00:54:03   that episode I'm sorry that movie from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3243">TS</a>]

00:54:06   fellow it's kind of an episode last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3246">TS</a>]

00:54:07   episode you update the but this movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3247">TS</a>]

00:54:10   has it and he would go on to score all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3250">TS</a>]

00:54:14   of the remaining next-generation movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3254">TS</a>]

00:54:16   all three of these and i have to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3256">TS</a>]

00:54:19   that first contact is my favorite of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3259">TS</a>]

00:54:21   them there are some action cues that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3261">TS</a>]

00:54:23   like an insurrection but this one really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3263">TS</a>]

00:54:26   holds together very well and is quite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3266">TS</a>]

00:54:30   possibly my favorite of the three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3270">TS</a>]

00:54:32   nemesis is just like a disaster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3272">TS</a>]

00:54:35   unfortunately in all levels yeah I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3275">TS</a>]

00:54:39   think he was probably given some bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3279">TS</a>]

00:54:41   direction by the director or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3281">TS</a>]

00:54:43   but that soundtrack they all were great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3283">TS</a>]

00:54:46   but there's no aspect of that movie that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3286">TS</a>]

00:54:49   wasn't a bad direction but the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3289">TS</a>]

00:54:51   that's one of the things that I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3291">TS</a>]

00:54:53   love about first contact and I've lost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3293">TS</a>]

00:54:55   my original CD so i cant i cant a boot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3295">TS</a>]

00:54:58   up a nineties operating system to access [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3298">TS</a>]

00:55:00   the digital extras that are still on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3300">TS</a>]

00:55:01   so I'm gonna go around the panel and ask [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3301">TS</a>]

00:55:04   for some sort of final thoughts over all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3304">TS</a>]

00:55:07   about how you feel about first contact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3307">TS</a>]

00:55:09   and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3309">TS</a>]

00:55:10   the top the hard question which is where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3310">TS</a>]

00:55:12   does it rank where does it rank in Star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3312">TS</a>]

00:55:14   Trek movies where would you where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3314">TS</a>]

00:55:16   put it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3316">TS</a>]

00:55:17   I'm curious about that so let me start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3317">TS</a>]

00:55:20   with with bri since she sort of started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3320">TS</a>]

00:55:22   down this path and saying that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3322">TS</a>]

00:55:24   haven't seen its like since we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3324">TS</a>]

00:55:26   bringing overall thoughts about first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3326">TS</a>]

00:55:28   contact and where would you rank it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3328">TS</a>]

00:55:30   well i think it's it's a third as second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3330">TS</a>]

00:55:32   best Star Trek movie right like wrath of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3332">TS</a>]

00:55:34   khan is definitely the best one that has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3334">TS</a>]

00:55:37   the best merit I think the shot really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3337">TS</a>]

00:55:40   pulled it together that filling really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3340">TS</a>]

00:55:42   delivered extremely powerful performance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3342">TS</a>]

00:55:45   but you know I i think this is a movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3345">TS</a>]

00:55:48   it really comes close [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3348">TS</a>]

00:55:50   I really really close and think it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3350">TS</a>]

00:55:52   the best moment that you know generation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3352">TS</a>]

00:55:55   on the next generation staff had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3355">TS</a>]

00:55:57   together so I i guess i would say I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3357">TS</a>]

00:56:01   always watch this movie and I am a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3361">TS</a>]

00:56:04   little bit sad because this was a time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3364">TS</a>]

00:56:06   period where we were talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3366">TS</a>]

00:56:08   perhaps getting you avoid movie made and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3368">TS</a>]

00:56:12   wasn't really clear where your broom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3372">TS</a>]

00:56:14   we're going to go after a next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3374">TS</a>]

00:56:16   generation had their shot and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3376">TS</a>]

00:56:19   like you guys are laughing at the doctor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3379">TS</a>]

00:56:21   and your Janeway small cameo but to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3381">TS</a>]

00:56:23   it's like um I don't know like this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3383">TS</a>]

00:56:26   the one the last chance that we we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3386">TS</a>]

00:56:28   really had to see that crew on the big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3388">TS</a>]

00:56:31   screen and we never did so it's always a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3391">TS</a>]

00:56:33   little bittersweet for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3393">TS</a>]

00:56:34   so what about you where where does this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3394">TS</a>]

00:56:36   movie rank overall and what are your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3396">TS</a>]

00:56:38   overall thoughts about it i love this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3398">TS</a>]

00:56:39   movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3399">TS</a>]

00:56:40   I have a hard time ranking it exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3400">TS</a>]

00:56:44   with everything a kind of toss it back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3404">TS</a>]

00:56:47   and forth between a couple because i do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3407">TS</a>]

00:56:51   think that wrath of khan is my favorite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3411">TS</a>]

00:56:53   but II there are some things about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3413">TS</a>]

00:56:56   there in terms of filmmaking our little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3416">TS</a>]

00:56:58   dated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3418">TS</a>]

00:56:59   unfortunately I i still love it so no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3419">TS</a>]

00:57:02   one sent me an angry letter by the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3422">TS</a>]

00:57:05   kind of goes for structure for which I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3425">TS</a>]

00:57:07   also love i also love the movie star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3427">TS</a>]

00:57:10   trek six I really do love a lot but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3430">TS</a>]

00:57:13   think first contact might be above [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3433">TS</a>]

00:57:14   either six or voyage home depending on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3434">TS</a>]

00:57:19   my mood but that's that's where I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3439">TS</a>]

00:57:22   would rank them and I I think this might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3442">TS</a>]

00:57:24   be definitely the most cinematic version [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3444">TS</a>]

00:57:29   of the next generation you're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3449">TS</a>]

00:57:30   see it is on the big screen for four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3450">TS</a>]

00:57:33   movies but this is this is the movie of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3453">TS</a>]

00:57:36   this cast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3456">TS</a>]

00:57:37   jamel what do you want your overall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3457">TS</a>]

00:57:39   thought about this and where do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3459">TS</a>]

00:57:40   slotted in the cannon so I think I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3460">TS</a>]

00:57:43   think it may be on the younger and of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3463">TS</a>]

00:57:45   the group here and the next generation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3465">TS</a>]

00:57:47   as a series very much like my track it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3467">TS</a>]

00:57:51   to track i grew up watching with my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3471">TS</a>]

00:57:53   family and the next generation and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3473">TS</a>]

00:57:55   first contact has a sort of special [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3475">TS</a>]

00:57:58   place in my in my movie viewing life is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3478">TS</a>]

00:58:03   rid of the movie is Allah knows a kid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3483">TS</a>]

00:58:05   and still you know pretty important to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3485">TS</a>]

00:58:07   me and i love it on this very kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3487">TS</a>]

00:58:10   emotional level and it is one of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3490">TS</a>]

00:58:14   favorite tracks I i think i would place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3494">TS</a>]

00:58:16   it third with my favorite being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3496">TS</a>]

00:58:19   undiscovered country followed by wrath [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3499">TS</a>]

00:58:23   of khan and then first contact i wanna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3503">TS</a>]

00:58:26   sort of go to something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3506">TS</a>]

00:58:29   Bree said which yet was her her view [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3509">TS</a>]

00:58:35   that mr. of the last great track movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3515">TS</a>]

00:58:40   and every kind of trying to think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3520">TS</a>]

00:58:41   like why that might have been made in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3521">TS</a>]

00:58:44   answer ANSWER have for myself at least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3524">TS</a>]

00:58:46   is that I think it's served after the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3526">TS</a>]

00:58:49   next generation and this may just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3529">TS</a>]

00:58:50   reflect larger trends in Hollywood that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3530">TS</a>]

00:58:54   track movies just became a member [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3534">TS</a>]

00:58:57   no species of action film and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3537">TS</a>]

00:59:00   willing the willingness to kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3540">TS</a>]

00:59:02   approach different kinds of genres [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3542">TS</a>]

00:59:03   within the track world one away right so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3543">TS</a>]

00:59:07   like undiscovered country is basically a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3547">TS</a>]

00:59:10   procedural like that is that's what that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3550">TS</a>]

00:59:12   home is a procedural that happens when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3552">TS</a>]

00:59:14   the trek universe trying to answer a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3554">TS</a>]

00:59:16   central mystery the first contact is I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3556">TS</a>]

00:59:20   think a lot of ways a horror movie with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3560">TS</a>]

00:59:23   the some unit a fish out of water comedy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3563">TS</a>]

00:59:25   thrown in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3565">TS</a>]

00:59:27   to give it some levity but but since [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3567">TS</a>]

00:59:31   then we just happen i don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3571">TS</a>]

00:59:33   there's been a real willingness weather [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3573">TS</a>]

00:59:35   for market reasons or just for you lack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3575">TS</a>]

00:59:37   of creativity to really be used to track [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3577">TS</a>]

00:59:41   as like an umbrella for a you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3581">TS</a>]

00:59:44   exploring these characters in this world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3584">TS</a>]

00:59:46   in in and the using different genres and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3586">TS</a>]

00:59:51   I don't know you're gonna get that back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3591">TS</a>]

00:59:53   and it's sort of why I kind of think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3593">TS</a>]

00:59:55   that the best place for track really is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3595">TS</a>]

00:59:59   television [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3599">TS</a>]

00:59:59   television [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3599">TS</a>]

01:00:00   and I'm not sure yeah I'm not sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3600">TS</a>]

01:00:02   movies ultimately or feature films [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3602">TS</a>]

01:00:05   ultimately all right sure are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3605">TS</a>]

01:00:08   well-suited for what I think makes track [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3608">TS</a>]

01:00:11   track [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3611">TS</a>]

01:00:13   yeah I think there's a lot of truth when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3613">TS</a>]

01:00:14   we talk about that in past episodes to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3614">TS</a>]

01:00:15   that star trek on TV is it is a TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3615">TS</a>]

01:00:18   franchise ultimately and there are some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3618">TS</a>]

01:00:21   good movies too but it it seems to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3621">TS</a>]

01:00:23   the best I did see a story at one point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3623">TS</a>]

01:00:25   about how I mean paramount is basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3625">TS</a>]

01:00:27   in if it wasn't chaos and now it's in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3627">TS</a>]

01:00:30   double chaos given all the ownership [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3630">TS</a>]

01:00:33   issues but I did see a story about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3633">TS</a>]

01:00:36   idea of what it what if they like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3636">TS</a>]

01:00:38   everybody they're like what if we follow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3638">TS</a>]

01:00:40   from Marvel's example and do a a bunch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3640">TS</a>]

01:00:43   of movies in the star trek universe that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3643">TS</a>]

01:00:46   tell different stories and I thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3646">TS</a>]

01:00:47   that might work i don't know if it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3647">TS</a>]

01:00:49   but it might work at least in that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3649">TS</a>]

01:00:51   would have the freedom to not have one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3651">TS</a>]

01:00:53   movie every three years that had to be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3653">TS</a>]

01:00:55   huge action tentpole movie because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3655">TS</a>]

01:00:57   were making a bunch of different smoke [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3657">TS</a>]

01:00:59   maybe a little bit smaller movies in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3659">TS</a>]

01:01:02   corners of the universe but I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3662">TS</a>]

01:01:03   how realistic that is in today's feature [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3663">TS</a>]

01:01:06   film business versus putting it on TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3666">TS</a>]

01:01:08   which is what CBS is doing with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3668">TS</a>]

01:01:10   startling discovery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3670">TS</a>]

01:01:11   Star Trek seems like a perfect fit for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3671">TS</a>]

01:01:13   netflix to me but you know let's move [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3673">TS</a>]

01:01:15   this was his money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3675">TS</a>]

01:01:17   it's netflix and the rest of the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3677">TS</a>]

01:01:19   that makes you feel any better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3679">TS</a>]

01:01:20   yeah it isn't like so everywhere but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3680">TS</a>]

01:01:22   here David what are your overall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3682">TS</a>]

01:01:25   thoughts about first contact and where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3685">TS</a>]

01:01:26   do you rank it I well you know i love it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3686">TS</a>]

01:01:29   when when i saw it it's one of the few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3689">TS</a>]

01:01:31   few movies i saw it twice the opening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3691">TS</a>]

01:01:33   weekend and it i would put it right up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3693">TS</a>]

01:01:38   there with wrath of khan you know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3698">TS</a>]

01:01:40   and only like by a couple of degrees [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3700">TS</a>]

01:01:43   it's like that close for me it's just it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3703">TS</a>]

01:01:48   the story telling us so streamlined and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3708">TS</a>]

01:01:51   so I mean did this is a this is the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3711">TS</a>]

01:01:54   generation firing on all cylinders right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3714">TS</a>]

01:01:56   and I remember walking out of it very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3716">TS</a>]

01:01:59   hopeful for where they were going to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3719">TS</a>]

01:02:01   because they were all still pretty young [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3721">TS</a>]

01:02:04   and you know and I I i know some fans [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3724">TS</a>]

01:02:08   are not crazy about Brandon braga after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3728">TS</a>]

01:02:10   a while but i like Braga and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3730">TS</a>]

01:02:12   or when they're working together I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3732">TS</a>]

01:02:13   forgive them for generations yet to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3733">TS</a>]

01:02:16   the promise of future next-generation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3736">TS</a>]

01:02:19   movies followed up with insurrection and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3739">TS</a>]

01:02:21   everything I was just crushing and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3741">TS</a>]

01:02:24   even you know again just watching it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3744">TS</a>]

01:02:26   recently for this it's the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3746">TS</a>]

01:02:28   excitement it's like I want to see more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3748">TS</a>]

01:02:30   with them doing big things and there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3750">TS</a>]

01:02:34   two other things that I can watch them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3754">TS</a>]

01:02:35   doing big things but i don't watch them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3755">TS</a>]

01:02:36   again and I you know I've said it before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3756">TS</a>]

01:02:39   I kind of like insurrection it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3759">TS</a>]

01:02:43   still it's like maybe mid range for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3763">TS</a>]

01:02:45   you know it's not it's not nemesis God [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3765">TS</a>]

01:02:49   knows but yeah I just I really like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3769">TS</a>]

01:02:53   first contact i love that it allows the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3773">TS</a>]

01:02:55   characters to have dimension that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3775">TS</a>]

01:02:57   don't get to have in any of the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3777">TS</a>]

01:02:58   movies and you get to see them doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3778">TS</a>]

01:03:01   things that they don't do all the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3781">TS</a>]

01:03:04   except maybe Worf because work is worth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3784">TS</a>]

01:03:06   a lot of a lot of bittersweetness when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3786">TS</a>]

01:03:08   we think about what happened after this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3788">TS</a>]

01:03:10   movie it's really sad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3790">TS</a>]

01:03:11   yeah Anna your your final thoughts and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3791">TS</a>]

01:03:14   and ranking for first contact yeah it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3794">TS</a>]

01:03:16   a it's a damn shame that we only got we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3796">TS</a>]

01:03:18   have four movies and we'll only one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3798">TS</a>]

01:03:20   them was like really tremendously good i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3800">TS</a>]

01:03:22   do have a soft spot for generations but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3802">TS</a>]

01:03:23   I you know it's not nearly as good as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3803">TS</a>]

01:03:25   first contact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3805">TS</a>]

01:03:26   yeah I i really like first contact i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3806">TS</a>]

01:03:28   haven't watched it in many years and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3808">TS</a>]

01:03:30   I was kind of trepidatious when I sat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3810">TS</a>]

01:03:32   down to watch it wondering if it held up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3812">TS</a>]

01:03:34   and and by gosh it did I really enjoyed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3814">TS</a>]

01:03:37   that I was not bored for a single moment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3817">TS</a>]

01:03:39   I i really felt very engaged and and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3819">TS</a>]

01:03:43   was zero just as good as i remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3823">TS</a>]

01:03:44   seeing it in the movie theater so I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3824">TS</a>]

01:03:46   good about that although to you know to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3826">TS</a>]

01:03:48   breeze point emails point about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3828">TS</a>]

01:03:49   other as a TV series i think i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3829">TS</a>]

01:03:52   that's there's something to be said for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3832">TS</a>]

01:03:54   that it is really hard i mean the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3834">TS</a>]

01:03:55   nineties worry more the sort of that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3835">TS</a>]

01:03:58   birth of the big blockbuster action [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3838">TS</a>]

01:04:00   movie and as a teenager in that era I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3840">TS</a>]

01:04:03   went and saw a bunch of them some i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3843">TS</a>]

01:04:05   guess i'm part of the problem but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3845">TS</a>]

01:04:07   don't forget about mine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3847">TS</a>]

01:04:08   I never got my ds9 move either so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3848">TS</a>]

01:04:11   know yeah there's that I guess I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3851">TS</a>]

01:04:13   suffered through that as well as far as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3853">TS</a>]

01:04:15   overall ranking I think I probably on in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3855">TS</a>]

01:04:18   club Joe here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3858">TS</a>]

01:04:19   iie it's hard for me to put a ranking on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3859">TS</a>]

01:04:22   them wrath of khan obviously has a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3862">TS</a>]

01:04:25   going for it and is it is a you know a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3865">TS</a>]

01:04:28   technical masterpiece I think like Jim [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3868">TS</a>]

01:04:30   ally I grew up with TNG and and so these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3870">TS</a>]

01:04:33   guys are more like my crew than the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3873">TS</a>]

01:04:35   original series crew was and I certainly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3875">TS</a>]

01:04:38   you know watch a lot more next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3878">TS</a>]

01:04:39   generation before I saw any of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3879">TS</a>]

01:04:41   original series for much of the original [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3881">TS</a>]

01:04:42   series so I I kind of put this up there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3882">TS</a>]

01:04:44   with them but it's also a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3884">TS</a>]

01:04:46   apples and oranges I do love four and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3886">TS</a>]

01:04:49   six just because of their their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3889">TS</a>]

01:04:50   respective nature's for as a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3890">TS</a>]

01:04:53   comedy show piece and six just because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3893">TS</a>]

01:04:56   it's it's a thriller great great you fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3896">TS</a>]

01:04:58   to watch thriller very popcorn me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3898">TS</a>]

01:05:00   without being too ridiculous like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3900">TS</a>]

01:05:02   blockbuster action movie so you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3902">TS</a>]

01:05:05   those are those are I think the four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3905">TS</a>]

01:05:06   star trek movies that i would gladly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3906">TS</a>]

01:05:07   watch it anytime no matter what so I I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3907">TS</a>]

01:05:12   okay putting them all in a little pool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3912">TS</a>]

01:05:13   together right Scott [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3913">TS</a>]

01:05:15   it's down to you now what are your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3915">TS</a>]

01:05:16   thoughts about first contact and where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3916">TS</a>]

01:05:18   rates [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3918">TS</a>]

01:05:18   well I will echo many sentiments I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3918">TS</a>]

01:05:21   love first contact i do hate the opening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3921">TS</a>]

01:05:25   credits though they're so so bland if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3925">TS</a>]

01:05:28   they are awful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3928">TS</a>]

01:05:29   I don't know why there should i had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3929">TS</a>]

01:05:31   note about most generic titles ever I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3931">TS</a>]

01:05:34   sure it's some contractual thing to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3934">TS</a>]

01:05:37   awful opening credits or something but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3937">TS</a>]

01:05:39   just don't like that and it's so sad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3939">TS</a>]

01:05:41   want to write the fun the opening scene [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3941">TS</a>]

01:05:44   is so great but the credits are just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3944">TS</a>]

01:05:46   awful and even that's a the generations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3946">TS</a>]

01:05:49   credits that you are better you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3949">TS</a>]

01:05:51   follow that champagne bottle you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3951">TS</a>]

01:05:53   know how to dance at the beginning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3953">TS</a>]

01:05:54   you're like what the heck of an echo its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3954">TS</a>]

01:05:56   champion anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3956">TS</a>]

01:05:58   clearly his first contact is the third [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3958">TS</a>]

01:06:02   best Star Trek movie but it was no doubt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3962">TS</a>]

01:06:05   about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3965">TS</a>]

01:06:06   wrath of khan uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3966">TS</a>]

01:06:09   the undiscovered country first contact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3969">TS</a>]

01:06:12   probably then star trek for and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3972">TS</a>]

01:06:16   star trek 2009 reboot probably would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3976">TS</a>]

01:06:20   by my rankings beyond oh you put beyond [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3980">TS</a>]

01:06:25   what 2,000 i like it i just destroyed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3985">TS</a>]

01:06:28   micro ok I'm right there with you I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3988">TS</a>]

01:06:30   thought Scott was gonna go left field [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3990">TS</a>]

01:06:33   and say like and then star trek five you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3993">TS</a>]

01:06:34   know your stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3994">TS</a>]

01:06:35   what has gotten into instruction not in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3995">TS</a>]

01:06:37   front of the Klingons yeah but I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/3997">TS</a>]

01:06:40   the end and there's just so much that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4000">TS</a>]

01:06:42   like about first contact i can't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4002">TS</a>]

01:06:45   of anything other than the opening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4005">TS</a>]

01:06:47   credits that I don't like about first so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4007">TS</a>]

01:06:50   I mean kudos to everyone involved and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4010">TS</a>]

01:06:53   mean I I you know as everyone said the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4013">TS</a>]

01:06:56   next generation movies afterwards not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4016">TS</a>]

01:06:59   very good i do like generations so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4019">TS</a>]

01:07:03   not nearly as good as first contact but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4023">TS</a>]

01:07:05   i do like it i like seeing William [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4025">TS</a>]

01:07:06   Shatner trucking around on a horse for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4026">TS</a>]

01:07:07   no apparent reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4027">TS</a>]

01:07:09   making eggs eggs looking at a clock you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4029">TS</a>]

01:07:14   know a guy name is in generations since [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4034">TS</a>]

01:07:15   I think it has its moments but uh yeah i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4035">TS</a>]

01:07:20   mean first contact if they would made a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4040">TS</a>]

01:07:23   more first contacts i will just keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4043">TS</a>]

01:07:24   watching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4044">TS</a>]

01:07:25   but sadly i didn't they didn't they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4045">TS</a>]

01:07:28   didn't do that well I i agree with what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4048">TS</a>]

01:07:30   everybody said this is this is a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4050">TS</a>]

01:07:31   movie i was reminded about how great it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4051">TS</a>]

01:07:33   is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4053">TS</a>]

01:07:33   I i love it a lot i think i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4053">TS</a>]

01:07:36   probably say there are only been to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4056">TS</a>]

01:07:38   legitimately great star trek movies and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4058">TS</a>]

01:07:40   that their wrath of khan and first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4060">TS</a>]

01:07:42   contact and when I hear people running [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4062">TS</a>]

01:07:45   down the next generation movies i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4065">TS</a>]

01:07:47   this moment where I'm like you've seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4067">TS</a>]

01:07:50   first contact because it's really good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4070">TS</a>]

01:07:52   like it's a written it's not the wrath [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4072">TS</a>]

01:07:54   of khan being replayed it's a really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4074">TS</a>]

01:07:56   good movie on its own and so I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4076">TS</a>]

01:07:59   those that's number one and revocations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4079">TS</a>]

01:08:01   one of my favorite movies if not my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4081">TS</a>]

01:08:03   favorite movie of all time but first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4083">TS</a>]

01:08:05   contact is I think very clearly in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4085">TS</a>]

01:08:07   same in that same category as a truly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4087">TS</a>]

01:08:10   great star trek movie and then yeah we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4090">TS</a>]

01:08:11   can we can argue about what goes below [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4091">TS</a>]

01:08:13   that I think maybe I put 2009 third but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4093">TS</a>]

01:08:16   yeah you know 20 it's a there so there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4096">TS</a>]

01:08:19   there's there's good charge recognize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4099">TS</a>]

01:08:21   bad Star Trek we've established this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4101">TS</a>]

01:08:22   this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4102">TS</a>]

01:08:23   good Star Trek it's sad what happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4103">TS</a>]

01:08:24   afterward but this is good stuff for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4104">TS</a>]

01:08:27   fact that it makes me really feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4107">TS</a>]

01:08:28   nostalgic for the next generation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4108">TS</a>]

01:08:30   I grew up with original series as a kid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4110">TS</a>]

01:08:32   I don't remember not knowing about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4112">TS</a>]

01:08:33   original Star Trek and the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4113">TS</a>]

01:08:35   generation was the show I became a fan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4115">TS</a>]

01:08:36   of because i wasn't i was a high school [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4116">TS</a>]

01:08:39   and college student when it was on so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4119">TS</a>]

01:08:41   was deep down into my excitement as a as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4121">TS</a>]

01:08:44   a sci-fi fan for next generation and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4124">TS</a>]

01:08:47   see this movie and I think this is how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4127">TS</a>]

01:08:49   great that cast was and how great that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4129">TS</a>]

01:08:51   show was it validates that in a strange [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4131">TS</a>]

01:08:54   way that like the original series got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4134">TS</a>]

01:08:56   these good movies what about the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4136">TS</a>]

01:08:57   generation and hear it here it is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4137">TS</a>]

01:08:59   see what they can do when all the things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4139">TS</a>]

01:09:02   are right see what this casket we also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4142">TS</a>]

01:09:04   got all the we get all the tos reunion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4144">TS</a>]

01:09:07   and like you know them coming back years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4147">TS</a>]

01:09:08   after the show i kinda want the TNG [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4148">TS</a>]

01:09:10   reunion now where they will read my no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4150">TS</a>]

01:09:12   band back together one last time right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4152">TS</a>]

01:09:14   yeah exactly yeah I I don't think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4154">TS</a>]

01:09:17   to be but I would ever know what i want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4157">TS</a>]

01:09:19   i love to see Patrick they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4159">TS</a>]

01:09:20   difficult art one last time with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4160">TS</a>]

01:09:21   great and you know say what you will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4161">TS</a>]

01:09:23   about the first couple of seasons of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4163">TS</a>]

01:09:25   next generation or the first couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4165">TS</a>]

01:09:27   seasons of well any of them up but they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4167">TS</a>]

01:09:30   were all really well cast and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4170">TS</a>]

01:09:33   characters i even in the worst episodes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4173">TS</a>]

01:09:37   the characters were enough to get you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4177">TS</a>]

01:09:38   through sometimes and this is you talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4178">TS</a>]

01:09:40   about the the reunion which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4180">TS</a>]

01:09:42   essentially what those Star Trek movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4182">TS</a>]

01:09:43   were the original Star Trek movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4183">TS</a>]

01:09:45   that's that's actually one of the power [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4185">TS</a>]

01:09:47   powerful things about this is that at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4187">TS</a>]

01:09:49   least this is the team basically at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4189">TS</a>]

01:09:52   top of their game this isn't 15 years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4192">TS</a>]

01:09:55   after they were on tue coming back and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4195">TS</a>]

01:09:58   talking about aging this is the team [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4198">TS</a>]

01:10:00   doing their thing and you can imagine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4200">TS</a>]

01:10:03   that they've been out on missions and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4203">TS</a>]

01:10:05   that enterprise-e for a while now and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4205">TS</a>]

01:10:08   who knows what they were we didn't get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4208">TS</a>]

01:10:09   to see them but uh that's that's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4209">TS</a>]

01:10:12   cool too so it's just it's yeah i love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4212">TS</a>]

01:10:14   it i want to give it a big hug [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4214">TS</a>]

01:10:16   except and I just I get turned into a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4216">TS</a>]

01:10:18   board it would be bad don't know Jason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4218">TS</a>]

01:10:20   don't let them touch you know hole no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4220">TS</a>]

01:10:23   I'll just tell them to assimilate this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4223">TS</a>]

01:10:24   anyway so happy 50th anniversary of Star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4224">TS</a>]

01:10:28   Trek and here's to another 50 and here's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4228">TS</a>]

01:10:30   to a neutron star trek TV series in 2017 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4230">TS</a>]

01:10:33   I think we're all looking forward to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4233">TS</a>]

01:10:35   some star trek on TV maybe where it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4235">TS</a>]

01:10:36   belongs but uh but 50 years what a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4236">TS</a>]

01:10:39   milestone so let me thank my panel for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4239">TS</a>]

01:10:42   coming in and ensuring some happy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4242">TS</a>]

01:10:43   thoughts about a a good movie that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4243">TS</a>]

01:10:45   very good and you should like it and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4245">TS</a>]

01:10:47   should watch it again Dan Morgan thanks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4247">TS</a>]

01:10:49   for being here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4249">TS</a>]

01:10:50   live long and prosper Jason David lure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4250">TS</a>]

01:10:53   thank you thank you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4253">TS</a>]

01:10:55   all I will say is definitely not swedish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4255">TS</a>]

01:10:57   not swedish Scott McNulty you broke your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4257">TS</a>]

01:11:00   little ships I did actually there's one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4260">TS</a>]

01:11:03   of them on my desk that is broken every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4263">TS</a>]

01:11:06   one important lesson that we learned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4266">TS</a>]

01:11:07   from this movie bored have very bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4267">TS</a>]

01:11:09   eyesight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4269">TS</a>]

01:11:10   yeah I just don't care they're really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4270">TS</a>]

01:11:13   just kind of listless and they just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4273">TS</a>]

01:11:15   don't care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4275">TS</a>]

01:11:15   Jamelle Bouie thank you so much for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4275">TS</a>]

01:11:17   being on the incomparable it was great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4277">TS</a>]

01:11:18   to have you i hope we can talk star trek [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4278">TS</a>]

01:11:20   with you again sometime [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4280">TS</a>]

01:11:21   my pleasure today was a good day to talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4281">TS</a>]

01:11:24   about a movie we have someone on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4284">TS</a>]

01:11:28   defiant Adam Scott is pretty guess I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4288">TS</a>]

01:11:30   really right now Rihanna would thank you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4290">TS</a>]

01:11:33   as always in transmission [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4293">TS</a>]

01:11:36   yeah and Joe rosenstiel thank you very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4296">TS</a>]

01:11:39   much for being here i would give you the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4299">TS</a>]

01:11:41   Vulcan salute let's just shake ya and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4301">TS</a>]

01:11:44   everybody out there thanks for listening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4304">TS</a>]

01:11:46   to this episode now if you excuse me I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4306">TS</a>]

01:11:47   have to plug in my jukebox and crank up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4307">TS</a>]

01:11:49   the rockabilly we'll see you next week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4309">TS</a>]

01:11:50   [Music] [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4310">TS</a>]

01:12:05   Ruby [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYkmWMQ/4325">TS</a>]