The Incomparable

00:00:07 ◼   ► the incomparable number 195 may 2014 [TS]

00:00:14 ◼   ► welcome back to the incomparable podcast [TS]

00:00:18 ◼   ► the podcast that likes to draft things [TS]

00:00:20 ◼   ► because i have obsessed with drafting [TS]

00:00:22 ◼   ► things all the things will be drafted [TS]

00:00:24 ◼   ► eventually culminating in our draft [TS]

00:00:26 ◼   ► draft we draft the biggest the best [TS]

00:00:28 ◼   ► drafts that we've ever done but until [TS]

00:00:30 ◼   ► then we will do this draft this draft is [TS]

00:00:32 ◼   ► a follow-up to our video game draft we [TS]

00:00:35 ◼   ► promised we would come back and talk [TS]

00:00:36 ◼   ► about computer games and so here we are [TS]

00:00:38 ◼   ► to talk about computer game so games [TS]

00:00:41 ◼   ► that you do on a computer as opposed to [TS]

00:00:44 ◼   ► a video game console or mobile device or [TS]

00:00:48 ◼   ► such [TS]

00:00:49 ◼   ► and we're going to be a judge ruthlessly [TS]

00:00:52 ◼   ► by the judges my judging panel is me I'm [TS]

00:00:55 ◼   ► ruthless joining me and this will be i [TS]

00:00:58 ◼   ► roll for initiative before the podcast I [TS]

00:01:00 ◼   ► would introduce them in the order in [TS]

00:01:02 ◼   ► which they will pick oh so did more'n oh [TS]

00:01:07 ◼   ► no what you got like a 99 you are first [TS]

00:01:10 ◼   ► hello [TS]

00:01:11 ◼   ► oh my god this never happens I draft all [TS]

00:01:14 ◼   ► the things [TS]

00:01:15 ◼   ► yeah you can't do that but but get ready [TS]

00:01:18 ◼   ► get ready your first up Monty ashley is [TS]

00:01:21 ◼   ► also here he is our second picker [TS]

00:01:23 ◼   ► excellent haha very good Erica and sign [TS]

00:01:26 ◼   ► is here she is our third picker lucky [TS]

00:01:29 ◼   ► number three [TS]

00:01:30 ◼   ► yeah you're in a good that's a good [TS]

00:01:31 ◼   ► position i was like to be in sort of the [TS]

00:01:32 ◼   ► middle when we're drafting that's a good [TS]

00:01:34 ◼   ► good place to be [TS]

00:01:35 ◼   ► of course I'm always last but I dream [TS]

00:01:37 ◼   ► about the middle [TS]

00:01:39 ◼   ► Tony sindelar is our fourth-place picker [TS]

00:01:41 ◼   ► that's not such a great number [TS]

00:01:44 ◼   ► it's not that great but it's okay it's [TS]

00:01:46 ◼   ► okay i think it means death [TS]

00:01:48 ◼   ► I was seriously disappointed that Steve [TS]

00:01:51 ◼   ► let's was our fifth place picker and not [TS]

00:01:54 ◼   ► dead last [TS]

00:01:55 ◼   ► because that's what i like to put him [TS]

00:01:56 ◼   ► but I'm not exceedingly happy about that [TS]

00:01:58 ◼   ► myself [TS]

00:01:59 ◼   ► yeah and John siracusa you are number [TS]

00:02:02 ◼   ► six [TS]

00:02:03 ◼   ► how are you going to judge things that [TS]

00:02:05 ◼   ► you've never heard of them curious about [TS]

00:02:06 ◼   ► that I the internet or random dice at [TS]

00:02:11 ◼   ► this computer game is pretty great but [TS]

00:02:13 ◼   ► you probably haven't heard of it [TS]

00:02:16 ◼   ► was originally developed for the [TS]

00:02:17 ◼   ► oscilloscope is that character I've got [TS]

00:02:19 ◼   ► I've got dice to roll randomly if I need [TS]

00:02:22 ◼   ► to just make a choice you must get [TS]

00:02:24 ◼   ► yourself a timex sinclair junk for this [TS]

00:02:26 ◼   ► will blow your mind you can all be [TS]

00:02:29 ◼   ► emulated it is possible to work around [TS]

00:02:31 ◼   ► this judge by the way I've worked with [TS]

00:02:33 ◼   ► this guy before it's good yes you can I [TS]

00:02:35 ◼   ► i I'm open their put their possibilities [TS]

00:02:38 ◼   ► draft judge is not always cruel to is [TS]

00:02:41 ◼   ► punching holes in punchcards considered [TS]

00:02:43 ◼   ► a game because and then feeding them [TS]

00:02:46 ◼   ► into the computer because that's its a [TS]

00:02:48 ◼   ► game on a computer game [TS]

00:02:49 ◼   ► I mean it you're putting them into the [TS]

00:02:51 ◼   ► computer it's a card game [TS]

00:02:53 ◼   ► not all games played with computers are [TS]

00:02:55 ◼   ► computer God interesting for example the [TS]

00:02:58 ◼   ► game of tech support [TS]

00:02:59 ◼   ► yeah not a game pattycake not a game if [TS]

00:03:03 ◼   ► you play with your computer [TS]

00:03:04 ◼   ► yeah not a game that game where you play [TS]

00:03:06 ◼   ► chess where different models of computer [TS]

00:03:07 ◼   ► or each of the pieces on the giant bored [TS]

00:03:09 ◼   ► of that game game theory not a game that [TS]

00:03:14 ◼   ► that was disappointing that was the [TS]

00:03:16 ◼   ► worst class neighborhood that classic to [TS]

00:03:21 ◼   ► Mac classic for its funny until you meet [TS]

00:03:24 ◼   ► for how they'll move is the problem and [TS]

00:03:27 ◼   ► you gotta remember it the mat classic [TS]

00:03:28 ◼   ► only moves by throwing it halfway across [TS]

00:03:30 ◼   ► the board [TS]

00:03:31 ◼   ► alright so computer games dan more in [TS]

00:03:33 ◼   ► picture computer game [TS]

00:03:35 ◼   ► all right well I'm gonna start off with [TS]

00:03:36 ◼   ► what I think might be the the most [TS]

00:03:38 ◼   ► possible like the one then people most [TS]

00:03:41 ◼   ► likely to snipe and that is in 1994 [TS]

00:03:43 ◼   ► LucasArts game tie fighter now huh [TS]

00:03:48 ◼   ► I typewriter which is I one of the best [TS]

00:03:51 ◼   ► games i think i ever played and as with [TS]

00:03:54 ◼   ► many of the games on my list [TS]

00:03:56 ◼   ► this is this is about people dressed in [TS]

00:03:58 ◼   ► formal wear fighting [TS]

00:03:59 ◼   ► yes they are very tuxedos and they make [TS]

00:04:02 ◼   ► you cum foo it's great it's great you [TS]

00:04:05 ◼   ► got people with your tie bow tie fighter [TS]

00:04:08 ◼   ► was the sequel less bow tie fighter less [TS]

00:04:10 ◼   ► successful cummerbund something go [TS]

00:04:14 ◼   ► anyway [TS]

00:04:15 ◼   ► yeah lots of options yeah well as with [TS]

00:04:17 ◼   ► many of the games on my list this was a [TS]

00:04:19 ◼   ► game i primarily played at some like one [TS]

00:04:21 ◼   ► of my friends houses because I didn't [TS]

00:04:22 ◼   ► have a pc don't forget about the sequel [TS]

00:04:24 ◼   ► 50 cufflinks [TS]

00:04:26 ◼   ► there we go thanks to you for bailing me [TS]

00:04:29 ◼   ► out of that [TS]

00:04:30 ◼   ► one and some joke about cummerbund that [TS]

00:04:32 ◼   ► i can think of i was working that when [TS]

00:04:34 ◼   ► you when you brought it up but I had to [TS]

00:04:35 ◼   ► change anyway now that broderbund / [TS]

00:04:38 ◼   ► cover back [TS]

00:04:40 ◼   ► sure there's there's something there [TS]

00:04:42 ◼   ► somewhere [TS]

00:04:43 ◼   ► cummerbund challenge will work on it and [TS]

00:04:45 ◼   ► get back to you at the end of the draft [TS]

00:04:47 ◼   ► yeah guys workshop that are equally [TS]

00:04:48 ◼   ► timing and time and stuff going first [TS]

00:04:51 ◼   ► yeah it's hazing really yeah why would [TS]

00:04:56 ◼   ► you say I think the thing that's most [TS]

00:04:57 ◼   ► sort of in my head that I remember about [TS]

00:05:00 ◼   ► this game is not only that there was the [TS]

00:05:03 ◼   ► whole like space simulation aspect of it [TS]

00:05:06 ◼   ► which was obviously great but there was [TS]

00:05:08 ◼   ► a whole sort of weird side plot as you [TS]

00:05:10 ◼   ► got higher and higher up in this like [TS]

00:05:13 ◼   ► secret society within the Empire so much [TS]

00:05:17 ◼   ► so that when you're at the mission [TS]

00:05:18 ◼   ► select screen if you mouse over you like [TS]

00:05:20 ◼   ► you see the guy's arm and your mouse [TS]

00:05:22 ◼   ► over it and his sleeve would slide up [TS]

00:05:24 ◼   ► and he would have like a tattoo like [TS]

00:05:26 ◼   ► indicated he was in this secret branch [TS]

00:05:29 ◼   ► of the Empire and we get more and more [TS]

00:05:31 ◼   ► elaborate right exactly as he got more [TS]

00:05:33 ◼   ► and more level to get more and more [TS]

00:05:33 ◼   ► elaborate and there was like this whole [TS]

00:05:35 ◼   ► plot in there you know about sort of [TS]

00:05:38 ◼   ► what this group was doing and you have [TS]

00:05:41 ◼   ► to find space ships around and shoot [TS]

00:05:42 ◼   ► stuff and I don't know it was it was [TS]

00:05:45 ◼   ► incredible to me as a you know 14 year [TS]

00:05:47 ◼   ► old or so and and of course chose TIE [TS]

00:05:50 ◼   ► fighter over the the previous Lucas our [TS]

00:05:52 ◼   ► space in x-wing because indeed he's a [TS]

00:05:55 ◼   ► bad man because it's not because it's [TS]

00:05:57 ◼   ► better we all know it's better [TS]

00:05:58 ◼   ► it was it was it was actually it's [TS]

00:06:00 ◼   ► pretty good don't get me wrong but like [TS]

00:06:01 ◼   ► actually was very much a straight-up [TS]

00:06:02 ◼   ► simulation right where this is actually [TS]

00:06:04 ◼   ► had like a storyline there's a little [TS]

00:06:06 ◼   ► more going there it built on all the [TS]

00:06:08 ◼   ► previous ones right and it was followed [TS]

00:06:09 ◼   ► by a couple other sequels which added [TS]

00:06:12 ◼   ► multiplayer which is cool though i never [TS]

00:06:13 ◼   ► had like enough friends with computers [TS]

00:06:16 ◼   ► connected in a way that we could [TS]

00:06:17 ◼   ► actually play multiplayer games so i was [TS]

00:06:21 ◼   ► pretty much stuck with just the first [TS]

00:06:22 ◼   ► player my my friend and I used to play [TS]

00:06:23 ◼   ► this with two of us sitting there [TS]

00:06:24 ◼   ► because it was all so complicated with [TS]

00:06:26 ◼   ► like rearranging your shield power and [TS]

00:06:28 ◼   ► various like it was such it was it [TS]

00:06:30 ◼   ► really a simulation it's not just a [TS]

00:06:32 ◼   ► point-and-click thing so one of us had [TS]

00:06:34 ◼   ► to like fly around with the other person [TS]

00:06:35 ◼   ► was like working all the computer stuff [TS]

00:06:36 ◼   ► that's a hallmark of computer games too [TS]

00:06:39 ◼   ► i played many computers to people at one [TS]

00:06:42 ◼   ► computer because there's so many damn [TS]

00:06:43 ◼   ► Keys magnetic warriors another one [TS]

00:06:45 ◼   ► almost all of the games on my list i [TS]

00:06:47 ◼   ► think we played at least in part in that [TS]

00:06:49 ◼   ► way just because it was it was like [TS]

00:06:51 ◼   ► multiplayer before multiplayer was [TS]

00:06:53 ◼   ► really a thing [TS]

00:06:54 ◼   ► so Dan did you want did you choose which [TS]

00:06:56 ◼   ► one of you is going to be the droid and [TS]

00:06:58 ◼   ► then that one only could go Boop [TS]

00:07:01 ◼   ► I guess that's x-wing sorry there are no [TS]

00:07:02 ◼   ► joints and tie fighters please [TS]

00:07:04 ◼   ► are there little those little black [TS]

00:07:05 ◼   ► boxes on thai fighter to those guys just [TS]

00:07:07 ◼   ► flying by themselves they leave the they [TS]

00:07:10 ◼   ► leave those guys back in the hangar or [TS]

00:07:11 ◼   ► just saturday like they waved goodbye [TS]

00:07:13 ◼   ► so that's what you would do is one of [TS]

00:07:15 ◼   ► you would play the little black box left [TS]

00:07:16 ◼   ► the hangar and go sit in the corner [TS]

00:07:18 ◼   ► while the other person had an adventure [TS]

00:07:20 ◼   ► Jason please call it a mouse droid also [TS]

00:07:21 ◼   ► when you I have to know for those of you [TS]

00:07:23 ◼   ► who i mean which is mostly around in the [TS]

00:07:25 ◼   ► early i think this rain on my calf may [TS]

00:07:28 ◼   ► be 46 r pentium personally like that [TS]

00:07:30 ◼   ► 23 cd-rom ya did well i do remember [TS]

00:07:33 ◼   ► computers that had turbo buttons on them [TS]

00:07:35 ◼   ► like like Knight Rider [TS]

00:07:37 ◼   ► yeah we had to change the clock speed [TS]

00:07:39 ◼   ► will you change the fucking speed of the [TS]

00:07:41 ◼   ► computer [TS]

00:07:41 ◼   ► well because if you ran certain like das [TS]

00:07:43 ◼   ► games they would run too fast so if you [TS]

00:07:46 ◼   ► ran this in das because they all ran [TS]

00:07:48 ◼   ► indoors as well as I think there was [TS]

00:07:49 ◼   ► later windows version but if you're [TS]

00:07:51 ◼   ► indoors like everything went super fast [TS]

00:07:53 ◼   ► and you can do anything that's like slow [TS]

00:07:55 ◼   ► down the clock speed so I'm looking at [TS]

00:07:57 ◼   ► the box right now and it says 486 DX 266 [TS]

00:08:01 ◼   ► minimum required [TS]

00:08:03 ◼   ► yeah there you go so you have some [TS]

00:08:05 ◼   ► hardcore why yes i think we played down [TS]

00:08:07 ◼   ► a pentium which we had to slow down 246 [TS]

00:08:09 ◼   ► speeds in order to play it das sure why [TS]

00:08:11 ◼   ► would you need more than that [TS]

00:08:13 ◼   ► did you have the requisite eight [TS]

00:08:14 ◼   ► megabytes of RAM maybe that was from iio [TS]

00:08:17 ◼   ► it was my computer man yeah totally [TS]

00:08:19 ◼   ► totally using my friends computer for [TS]

00:08:20 ◼   ► this turbo buttons were on the pc 80 i [TS]

00:08:23 ◼   ► believe which would run Red Baron too [TS]

00:08:25 ◼   ► fast if you have the turbo button [TS]

00:08:26 ◼   ► Preston so the turbo button long [TS]

00:08:27 ◼   ► predates 4600 I remember particularly [TS]

00:08:30 ◼   ► enjoying the game because it was heavily [TS]

00:08:33 ◼   ► inspired by kind of the traditional [TS]

00:08:34 ◼   ► flight simulator games so there were [TS]

00:08:37 ◼   ► entire sequences to it that were not [TS]

00:08:38 ◼   ► like really action-packed or what you [TS]

00:08:41 ◼   ► would consider enjoyable but they left [TS]

00:08:43 ◼   ► this is what it would like their [TS]

00:08:45 ◼   ► missions were like you fly around a TIE [TS]

00:08:47 ◼   ► fighter and have to scan cargo ships to [TS]

00:08:49 ◼   ► make sure they were like had their [TS]

00:08:50 ◼   ► registration up-to-date and then like [TS]

00:08:52 ◼   ► something what happened but it'd be like [TS]

00:08:53 ◼   ► you're going to scan cargo ships for 20 [TS]

00:08:55 ◼   ► minutes [TS]

00:08:55 ◼   ► this is what you do when you work for [TS]

00:08:56 ◼   ► the Empire deal with it i spent a really [TS]

00:08:58 ◼   ► long time trying to get this to work in [TS]

00:09:00 ◼   ► a DA simulator and you can I could get [TS]

00:09:02 ◼   ► it to work with the problem is it really [TS]

00:09:03 ◼   ► doesn't play well without a joystick and [TS]

00:09:05 ◼   ► you're getting the mouse to emulate [TS]

00:09:06 ◼   ► joystick doesn't really work [TS]

00:09:09 ◼   ► great now I played I think I played [TS]

00:09:11 ◼   ► x-wing with a with a joystick and and [TS]

00:09:14 ◼   ► boy was that was hard did see a little [TS]

00:09:17 ◼   ► bit like I wasn't playing a game so much [TS]

00:09:18 ◼   ► as being trained in how to fly an x-wing [TS]

00:09:21 ◼   ► you used to like fly through the troops [TS]

00:09:23 ◼   ► and stuff like that yeah I've got the [TS]

00:09:26 ◼   ► collector series which was remastered [TS]

00:09:28 ◼   ► for windows 95 maybe you'd have better [TS]

00:09:30 ◼   ► luck with that [TS]

00:09:31 ◼   ► yeah when they also have a I think it [TS]

00:09:32 ◼   ► added an expansion or two as well there [TS]

00:09:34 ◼   ► were some there were some add-ons [TS]

00:09:36 ◼   ► interest on to tie fighter and yeah so I [TS]

00:09:40 ◼   ► don't mostly the nursing about this is [TS]

00:09:42 ◼   ► probably Star Wars related nerding yeah [TS]

00:09:44 ◼   ► it keeps being one of those ones that [TS]

00:09:45 ◼   ► you hope that they'll do some kind of [TS]

00:09:47 ◼   ► release but now with LucasArts current [TS]

00:09:49 ◼   ► state that seems I mean non-existent [TS]

00:09:51 ◼   ► that state [TS]

00:09:52 ◼   ► yeah for years I wanted an extra xbox [TS]

00:09:54 ◼   ► arcade version of this game [TS]

00:09:56 ◼   ► I mean you see that yeah it seems like [TS]

00:09:57 ◼   ► that's if you know there's probably [TS]

00:09:59 ◼   ► there's other games higher up in the [TS]

00:10:00 ◼   ► list and we're probably never going to [TS]

00:10:02 ◼   ► see those it's a really popular game i [TS]

00:10:03 ◼   ► mean if you look back at like the awards [TS]

00:10:05 ◼   ► it won like it's on a bunch of like [TS]

00:10:06 ◼   ► greatest games list and stuff like that [TS]

00:10:08 ◼   ► i mean and i think the star wars name [TS]

00:10:10 ◼   ► you know this is one of the better star [TS]

00:10:12 ◼   ► wars games ever made to highbar didn't [TS]

00:10:16 ◼   ► they just aren't the beta testing an [TS]

00:10:18 ◼   ► x-wing game that runs in the brow in the [TS]

00:10:20 ◼   ► browser there is a there's a flash one I [TS]

00:10:22 ◼   ► actually have a managed to snag a beta [TS]

00:10:24 ◼   ► invite to it [TS]

00:10:25 ◼   ► yeah it's not bad but it's much more of [TS]

00:10:26 ◼   ► a modern type game where it's like you [TS]

00:10:29 ◼   ► know don't worry too much about that [TS]

00:10:30 ◼   ► it's more of a twitch game than a [TS]

00:10:32 ◼   ► simulation but it has its entertainment [TS]

00:10:35 ◼   ► all right tie fighter good pic first pic [TS]

00:10:37 ◼   ► that was that was a solid pick their dan [TS]

00:10:40 ◼   ► that's all the time we have folks [TS]

00:10:42 ◼   ► tonight [TS]

00:10:42 ◼   ► yeah right everybody thinks you turning [TS]

00:10:44 ◼   ► in for thai fighter top again [TS]

00:10:46 ◼   ► oh my god it's going to be in [TS]

00:10:49 ◼   ► syndication it's going to be great yeah [TS]

00:10:50 ◼   ► it is monty your it's your turn [TS]

00:10:53 ◼   ► I'm going to 1986 I think will be the [TS]

00:10:57 ◼   ► high point of computer games like some [TS]

00:11:01 ◼   ► kind of dust ballgame tom joad versus [TS]

00:11:04 ◼   ► the turtle that's the game it [TS]

00:11:07 ◼   ► this is Trinity by infocar I is a text [TS]

00:11:12 ◼   ► adventure that starts with a nuclear [TS]

00:11:14 ◼   ► bomb going off over London then kind of [TS]

00:11:17 ◼   ► goes into a mary poppins thing before [TS]

00:11:20 ◼   ► being sort of an Alice in Wonderland [TS]

00:11:23 ◼   ► inspired Rob through the history of [TS]

00:11:25 ◼   ► nuclear weaponry [TS]

00:11:27 ◼   ► oh yeah right it is amazing sasti [TS]

00:11:31 ◼   ► maretskiy right Brian Moriarty oh it's [TS]

00:11:34 ◼   ► Moriarty okay yeah I'm thinking mind [TS]

00:11:36 ◼   ► forever voyaging I guess yeah Monty if I [TS]

00:11:40 ◼   ► had to predict that you would pick an [TS]

00:11:42 ◼   ► infocomm game for your first pick i [TS]

00:11:44 ◼   ► would i would have correctly picked that [TS]

00:11:46 ◼   ► that is exactly what I wanted [TS]

00:11:47 ◼   ► what about you wouldn't this is the one [TS]

00:11:48 ◼   ► with the radioactive symbol on it it's [TS]

00:11:51 ◼   ► not yeah and you drag the feelings that [TS]

00:11:54 ◼   ► came with it were how to fold an origami [TS]

00:11:56 ◼   ► crane and a little cardboard sundial [TS]

00:11:59 ◼   ► which even explain for some of our [TS]

00:12:01 ◼   ► younger audience what feelings are [TS]

00:12:03 ◼   ► originally anybody could copy computer [TS]

00:12:06 ◼   ► games then copy protection became [TS]

00:12:09 ◼   ► invented then copy protection got broken [TS]

00:12:12 ◼   ► then that lapse those last two cycles [TS]

00:12:14 ◼   ► repeated a hundred times an infocomm [TS]

00:12:16 ◼   ► came up with this brilliant idea of [TS]

00:12:18 ◼   ► putting things in their game like for [TS]

00:12:22 ◼   ► the hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy [TS]

00:12:24 ◼   ► you got a pair of parallel sensitive [TS]

00:12:26 ◼   ► sunglasses that would turn black [TS]

00:12:27 ◼   ► whenever there is peril the joke of [TS]

00:12:29 ◼   ► course being that they were solid black [TS]

00:12:31 ◼   ► cardboard so there was always parallel [TS]

00:12:32 ◼   ► right and that way they could both give [TS]

00:12:35 ◼   ► you something fun like little a [TS]

00:12:37 ◼   ► cardboard sundial you could fold and [TS]

00:12:39 ◼   ► also refer to it in the game as kind of [TS]

00:12:42 ◼   ► mock copy protection so you have to look [TS]

00:12:45 ◼   ► at your feelings and answer questions or [TS]

00:12:47 ◼   ► something depending on how suddenly they [TS]

00:12:49 ◼   ► did it [TS]

00:12:50 ◼   ► I like looking stuff up in the manual [TS]

00:12:51 ◼   ► you have to do in about like on page 27 [TS]

00:12:53 ◼   ► what's the third we're in the fifth [TS]

00:12:55 ◼   ► paragraph yeah or because infocomm was a [TS]

00:12:58 ◼   ► little more subtle that they include a [TS]

00:13:00 ◼   ► comic book and you have to read the [TS]

00:13:02 ◼   ► comic book so you know what Rex master [TS]

00:13:05 ◼   ► don like to drink so when that came up [TS]

00:13:09 ◼   ► in the game you would say i don't really [TS]

00:13:11 ◼   ► like to drink that example is from the [TS]

00:13:13 ◼   ► very classy game leather goddesses of [TS]

00:13:15 ◼   ► Phobos there's nothing like the leaders [TS]

00:13:17 ◼   ► to Larry how perfect [TS]

00:13:18 ◼   ► remember that one where they would ask [TS]

00:13:19 ◼   ► your questions yeah before the game [TS]

00:13:22 ◼   ► started [TS]

00:13:23 ◼   ► I remember sitting next to someone in [TS]

00:13:25 ◼   ► college who that who was really [TS]

00:13:26 ◼   ► struggling with those questions was kind [TS]

00:13:27 ◼   ► of sad like it's like Nick's it was like [TS]

00:13:30 ◼   ► you know you know who was president in [TS]

00:13:32 ◼   ► 1986 and you know they're asking things [TS]

00:13:35 ◼   ► like I have hair on my head be lots of [TS]

00:13:38 ◼   ► places so you think about house I was [TS]

00:13:41 ◼   ► like what kind of questions they would [TS]

00:13:42 ◼   ► ask you to trip up five-year-olds those [TS]

00:13:45 ◼   ► questions have come back to haunt them [TS]

00:13:46 ◼   ► because if you get at the if you get the [TS]

00:13:47 ◼   ► lost treasures of infocomm i think it is [TS]

00:13:50 ◼   ► the cd-rom that has a bunch of their old [TS]

00:13:52 ◼   ► games on it it comes with the PDF of all [TS]

00:13:55 ◼   ► the documentation but it's missing some [TS]

00:13:57 ◼   ► so you can't actually play bureaucracy [TS]

00:14:00 ◼   ► you get about a third of the way through [TS]

00:14:02 ◼   ► and asks who is conspiring to destroy [TS]

00:14:04 ◼   ► the country and you don't know because [TS]

00:14:07 ◼   ► you don't have the fire this is it's the [TS]

00:14:08 ◼   ► dentist's which is actually sort of [TS]

00:14:10 ◼   ► perfect when you think about it that's [TS]

00:14:11 ◼   ► all parts all part of the game [TS]

00:14:13 ◼   ► yeah exactly now you have to go they [TS]

00:14:15 ◼   ► knew you'd have to go on the internet to [TS]

00:14:16 ◼   ► find that out because by then infocomm [TS]

00:14:18 ◼   ► was owned by activision which is a [TS]

00:14:19 ◼   ► bureaucracy of its own sort yeah it's [TS]

00:14:22 ◼   ► perfect so I'm very fond of text [TS]

00:14:24 ◼   ► adventures i still have them on every [TS]

00:14:26 ◼   ► computer or device that i own and [TS]

00:14:29 ◼   ► trinity i think is the best one so I'm [TS]

00:14:31 ◼   ► taking Trinity alright that's that's [TS]

00:14:34 ◼   ► great and should be in le simulation [TS]

00:14:37 ◼   ► allows us to play many of these games i [TS]

00:14:39 ◼   ► think which is nice [TS]

00:14:40 ◼   ► well you don't even need emulation [TS]

00:14:42 ◼   ► because infocomm wrote their own [TS]

00:14:44 ◼   ► language which was how they were how [TS]

00:14:46 ◼   ► they really get it on every platform at [TS]

00:14:48 ◼   ► the time so people just written [TS]

00:14:50 ◼   ► interpreters and I have their i have one [TS]

00:14:52 ◼   ► on my iphone i believe for my ipad very [TS]

00:14:54 ◼   ► nice [TS]

00:14:55 ◼   ► Erica it's your turn who [TS]

00:14:58 ◼   ► well for my pic i am going to take you [TS]

00:15:00 ◼   ► back to the healthy on Days of the early [TS]

00:15:02 ◼   ► nineties and and a game that I genuinely [TS]

00:15:07 ◼   ► think i would not be the same person now [TS]

00:15:09 ◼   ► if i hadn't discovered this game at the [TS]

00:15:11 ◼   ► time and that is ultimate seven part one [TS]

00:15:13 ◼   ► the black gate [TS]

00:15:15 ◼   ► Oh [TS]

00:15:16 ◼   ► yes you see my mom took my siblings and [TS]

00:15:19 ◼   ► I shopping and said we could get one [TS]

00:15:21 ◼   ► computer game and of course there was an [TS]

00:15:24 ◼   ► argument you know we went to american TV [TS]

00:15:26 ◼   ► and appliance run by crazy Lenny crazy [TS]

00:15:29 ◼   ► TV Lenny I kid you not that was that was [TS]

00:15:31 ◼   ► the store and they sold computers in [TS]

00:15:34 ◼   ► addition to televisions and furniture [TS]

00:15:35 ◼   ► and in procedure ators and things that's [TS]

00:15:38 ◼   ► clearly happen isn't it just [TS]

00:15:41 ◼   ► that's Lenny for you and so there were [TS]

00:15:44 ◼   ► two games that my brother and I were [TS]

00:15:46 ◼   ► arguing over and I can't even remember [TS]

00:15:47 ◼   ► who was pulling for which game it was [TS]

00:15:49 ◼   ► between ultimate seven and i think it [TS]

00:15:51 ◼   ► was King's Quest six probably and one of [TS]

00:15:56 ◼   ► us one I like to think it was me because [TS]

00:15:58 ◼   ► really i like to think it was me and I [TS]

00:16:01 ◼   ► decide we decided to go with ultimate [TS]

00:16:03 ◼   ► seven and that game became the center of [TS]

00:16:07 ◼   ► our world for I don't even know how many [TS]

00:16:10 ◼   ► how long it was it was months because [TS]

00:16:12 ◼   ► you know we are it's a good call if [TS]

00:16:14 ◼   ► you're if you're told you only pick one [TS]

00:16:15 ◼   ► game always pick the one that takes six [TS]

00:16:17 ◼   ► hundred years to complete it was so [TS]

00:16:20 ◼   ► wonderful we got at home and we pulled [TS]

00:16:22 ◼   ► out the i think it was twelve five and a [TS]

00:16:24 ◼   ► quarter floppy inch 2.5 and quarter inch [TS]

00:16:26 ◼   ► floppy disks and you know took a million [TS]

00:16:29 ◼   ► years loading them up on to our ancient [TS]

00:16:31 ◼   ► ancient computer and will now ancient [TS]

00:16:34 ◼   ► even at the time it wasn't super new but [TS]

00:16:36 ◼   ► it wasn't enough to play that game [TS]

00:16:37 ◼   ► barely half the time the mouse wouldn't [TS]

00:16:40 ◼   ► work and we would have to use the [TS]

00:16:41 ◼   ► keyboard commands which let me tell you [TS]

00:16:43 ◼   ► not a whole lot of fun although the day [TS]

00:16:45 ◼   ► we discovered that when you Preston [TS]

00:16:47 ◼   ► shift and hit the arrow keys you walked [TS]

00:16:49 ◼   ► faster was a great great day for our [TS]

00:16:52 ◼   ► family but anyway so the ultimate series [TS]

00:16:56 ◼   ► had been around for quite a while at [TS]

00:16:58 ◼   ► that point but I had never heard of it [TS]

00:17:00 ◼   ► so this was my first introduction to the [TS]

00:17:03 ◼   ► game where you are transported from the [TS]

00:17:05 ◼   ► real world into this you know compute [TS]

00:17:08 ◼   ► this different land that we can access [TS]

00:17:10 ◼   ► through the computer and the thing that [TS]

00:17:13 ◼   ► I love about it the most is just the [TS]

00:17:14 ◼   ► fact that it's such an open world and [TS]

00:17:16 ◼   ► you can really just go anywhere and do [TS]

00:17:18 ◼   ► anything once you get past sort of the [TS]

00:17:20 ◼   ► first the first little little challenge [TS]

00:17:22 ◼   ► you start out in a city which I love [TS]

00:17:24 ◼   ► it's called trinsic so you're starting [TS]

00:17:26 ◼   ► intrinsic which is wonderful because you [TS]

00:17:28 ◼   ► have to learn all [TS]

00:17:29 ◼   ► of the basics of the game all the things [TS]

00:17:31 ◼   ► that are intrinsic to playing the game [TS]

00:17:33 ◼   ► so when you're starting off with the pun [TS]

00:17:34 ◼   ► like that how can you possibly go wrong [TS]

00:17:36 ◼   ► but after that every pretty much [TS]

00:17:40 ◼   ► anywhere in the entire realm is open to [TS]

00:17:42 ◼   ► you in a lot of games that are sort of [TS]

00:17:44 ◼   ► like that the strength of the monsters [TS]

00:17:46 ◼   ► sort of keeps you wear your [TS]

00:17:47 ◼   ► quote-unquote supposed to be and hear [TS]

00:17:49 ◼   ► that rarely happens you could kind of go [TS]

00:17:52 ◼   ► just about anywhere and sort of avoid [TS]

00:17:54 ◼   ► the monsters and get way ahead of [TS]

00:17:55 ◼   ► yourself if you wanted and and i love [TS]

00:17:57 ◼   ► that and I the only thing that I kind of [TS]

00:18:01 ◼   ► found a little frustrating the first [TS]

00:18:03 ◼   ► time through was just that we could only [TS]

00:18:04 ◼   ► have a party of of so many people so you [TS]

00:18:07 ◼   ► had to pick and choose and after playing [TS]

00:18:10 ◼   ► through the first time and having it be [TS]

00:18:11 ◼   ► this super important thing in our lives [TS]

00:18:14 ◼   ► i mean we would have snow days off from [TS]

00:18:16 ◼   ► school and my brother and sister and I [TS]

00:18:19 ◼   ► would sit we had a piano bench instead [TS]

00:18:21 ◼   ► of a computer chair and the three of us [TS]

00:18:22 ◼   ► would sit next to each other on the [TS]

00:18:25 ◼   ► piano bench playing ultimate seven we [TS]

00:18:27 ◼   ► would take turns you know one person we [TS]

00:18:28 ◼   ► get to run that the mouths of the [TS]

00:18:29 ◼   ► keyboard and then we would have to [TS]

00:18:31 ◼   ► switch off because otherwise mom would [TS]

00:18:32 ◼   ► yell at us because somebody would [TS]

00:18:34 ◼   ► complain and we would literally spend 11 [TS]

00:18:37 ◼   ► or 12 hours that has been a stretch just [TS]

00:18:38 ◼   ► all sitting together and I think my [TS]

00:18:41 ◼   ► parents let us do that because we [TS]

00:18:42 ◼   ► weren't arguing with each other and [TS]

00:18:44 ◼   ► nobody was hitting hitting the other one [TS]

00:18:46 ◼   ► because we were just so completely [TS]

00:18:47 ◼   ► involved in this game so we created our [TS]

00:18:50 ◼   ► party and I think I don't know how many [TS]

00:18:52 ◼   ► more times I have played through [TS]

00:18:54 ◼   ► ultimate seven but i have to play with [TS]

00:18:57 ◼   ► the same party because I feel like they [TS]

00:18:58 ◼   ► are family members I feel like they're [TS]

00:19:00 ◼   ► my friends I met them so long ago that [TS]

00:19:02 ◼   ► every time I every time I go through my [TS]

00:19:04 ◼   ► goal maybe I'll take Julia this time but [TS]

00:19:06 ◼   ► then like who do I get rid of nobody I [TS]

00:19:08 ◼   ► just can't do it [TS]

00:19:10 ◼   ► and speaking of Julia would have been [TS]

00:19:12 ◼   ► nice to have a female in the party just [TS]

00:19:16 ◼   ► couldn't make that happen because if [TS]

00:19:17 ◼   ► they all became too late but I loved [TS]

00:19:19 ◼   ► loved loved the fact that i could play [TS]

00:19:21 ◼   ► as a female character as the avatar and [TS]

00:19:25 ◼   ► that was something that you don't see [TS]

00:19:27 ◼   ► very often unfortunately the only choice [TS]

00:19:29 ◼   ► was blonde which they think they opened [TS]

00:19:32 ◼   ► up in an ultimate seven-part to serpent [TS]

00:19:36 ◼   ► Isle you are you were able to to change [TS]

00:19:38 ◼   ► your features and you can play as a [TS]

00:19:40 ◼   ► brunette which would have been more [TS]

00:19:41 ◼   ► appropriate but after spending so many [TS]

00:19:43 ◼   ► is playing and replaying as the blonde I [TS]

00:19:46 ◼   ► just I couldn't change i'm in such a [TS]

00:19:48 ◼   ► creature of habit but there are lots of [TS]

00:19:50 ◼   ► references and in jokes and things that [TS]

00:19:52 ◼   ► I absolutely did not get at the time [TS]

00:19:54 ◼   ► because i was just too young for it but [TS]

00:19:56 ◼   ► I i think that it was it's a credit to [TS]

00:19:58 ◼   ► the the story that those jokes not [TS]

00:20:01 ◼   ► knowing those jokes doesn't detract from [TS]

00:20:03 ◼   ► it at all so like you know the [TS]

00:20:05 ◼   ► Fellowship is this mysterious sort of [TS]

00:20:07 ◼   ► culty new church that's doing that [TS]

00:20:10 ◼   ► sprung up and you know that supposed to [TS]

00:20:12 ◼   ► be sort of a riff on Scientology well I [TS]

00:20:13 ◼   ► didn't get it at the time but now I [TS]

00:20:15 ◼   ► think it just makes the game even deeper [TS]

00:20:17 ◼   ► and it came with feelings too [TS]

00:20:19 ◼   ► we had a cloth map and a little metal [TS]

00:20:22 ◼   ► fellowship token in the copy protection [TS]

00:20:25 ◼   ► for ultimate seven was asking questions [TS]

00:20:27 ◼   ► about longitude and latitude on the map [TS]

00:20:29 ◼   ► yeah so oh good time getting misty just [TS]

00:20:34 ◼   ► thinking about it i have i have some [TS]

00:20:36 ◼   ► ultimate memories of my own but i'm [TS]

00:20:37 ◼   ► going to save them in case i pick [TS]

00:20:39 ◼   ► another ultimate game later [TS]

00:20:40 ◼   ► yeah I got one on my list and it yeah I [TS]

00:20:43 ◼   ► I might I might not somebody in the [TS]

00:20:47 ◼   ► chatroom suggesting that if any of you [TS]

00:20:48 ◼   ► pics minesweeper your band for the [TS]

00:20:50 ◼   ► podcast / no comment [TS]

00:20:53 ◼   ► actually that would be kind of that [TS]

00:20:55 ◼   ► would be that would be kind of brilliant [TS]

00:20:56 ◼   ► III one of the highest selling games of [TS]

00:20:58 ◼   ► all time [TS]

00:20:59 ◼   ► well selling what about that puzzle [TS]

00:21:03 ◼   ► slightly game on iOS yeah yeah let's [TS]

00:21:05 ◼   ► just say it depends on how deep we get [TS]

00:21:07 ◼   ► into worthless [TS]

00:21:07 ◼   ► alright fair enough i have it written [TS]

00:21:09 ◼   ► down it's not high [TS]

00:21:11 ◼   ► okay good Tony it's your turn um i would [TS]

00:21:14 ◼   ► like to draft for my first pick up the [TS]

00:21:16 ◼   ► game half-life you may have heard it all [TS]

00:21:18 ◼   ► yah eat it what ya shaking my fist over [TS]

00:21:23 ◼   ► here [TS]

00:21:23 ◼   ► ah there's nothing better than crafting [TS]

00:21:25 ◼   ► something that somebody found the draft [TS]

00:21:27 ◼   ► yeah um so half-life is a very popular [TS]

00:21:31 ◼   ► first-person shooter from the late [TS]

00:21:33 ◼   ► nineties that was valve software that [TS]

00:21:36 ◼   ► everyone's heard about makes up the game [TS]

00:21:37 ◼   ► to make steam and my pizza that was [TS]

00:21:39 ◼   ► their first thing and no doubt many of [TS]

00:21:41 ◼   ► you have or at least heard of half life [TS]

00:21:42 ◼   ► if not played half life or one of the [TS]

00:21:44 ◼   ► many sequels since then but up i played [TS]

00:21:48 ◼   ► that when I was you know but it but a [TS]

00:21:49 ◼   ► young or yeah but a young high school [TS]

00:21:52 ◼   ► student and half-life was this great [TS]

00:21:55 ◼   ► game in which you played as gordon [TS]

00:21:56 ◼   ► freeman [TS]

00:21:56 ◼   ► who is a theoretical physicist and kind [TS]

00:21:59 ◼   ► of your silent protagonist who had a PhD [TS]

00:22:01 ◼   ► from MIT but basically as far as I could [TS]

00:22:03 ◼   ► tell as a scientist his main job was [TS]

00:22:05 ◼   ► like sliding creates around the room and [TS]

00:22:07 ◼   ► other scientists would tell them to do [TS]

00:22:08 ◼   ► and then everything goes horribly awry [TS]

00:22:10 ◼   ► in his science facility suddenly they're [TS]

00:22:12 ◼   ► aliens running around and heat so he's [TS]

00:22:13 ◼   ► running around trying not to get killed [TS]

00:22:15 ◼   ► by aliens and then the government shows [TS]

00:22:17 ◼   ► up and turns out they want to kill the [TS]

00:22:19 ◼   ► aliens but also everyone who you know [TS]

00:22:21 ◼   ► may have been involved in bringing [TS]

00:22:22 ◼   ► aliens they're so he's on the run from [TS]

00:22:24 ◼   ► that and don't got his PhD in [TS]

00:22:27 ◼   ► first-person shooters so moving crates [TS]

00:22:29 ◼   ► around was a natural fit for him [TS]

00:22:31 ◼   ► this was in the crate era of games i [TS]

00:22:33 ◼   ► remember [TS]

00:22:34 ◼   ► yes it was this was piqued great um this [TS]

00:22:37 ◼   ► was you know every game back then had a [TS]

00:22:39 ◼   ► great which i always i I'll enjoy [TS]

00:22:41 ◼   ► because it was clear that the people who [TS]

00:22:43 ◼   ► made video games like only have really [TS]

00:22:46 ◼   ► kind of a loose sense of what a crate [TS]

00:22:48 ◼   ► really mad world but that's like for [TS]

00:22:51 ◼   ► example you see there would be crates [TS]

00:22:53 ◼   ► everywhere they would be stacked they [TS]

00:22:55 ◼   ► would be hanging from things you would [TS]

00:22:56 ◼   ► use them for stuff they would come in [TS]

00:22:58 ◼   ► lots of shapes you know that didn't make [TS]

00:23:00 ◼   ► sense but you know what you almost never [TS]

00:23:02 ◼   ► saw a pallet and oversaw foul-up it's [TS]

00:23:06 ◼   ► like I had a job working in a warehouse [TS]

00:23:08 ◼   ► I've unloaded trucks you know what [TS]

00:23:09 ◼   ► creates come on Chris come on pallets [TS]

00:23:11 ◼   ► you pasty videogame designers have never [TS]

00:23:13 ◼   ► seen a real great um but yeah half was [TS]

00:23:16 ◼   ► at peak great um so I kind of iconic [TS]

00:23:20 ◼   ► first-person shooter that also [TS]

00:23:21 ◼   ► incorporated some kind of puzzle solving [TS]

00:23:23 ◼   ► with moving crates smashing things with [TS]

00:23:25 ◼   ► a crowbar had really great artificial [TS]

00:23:28 ◼   ► intelligence for for the time for the [TS]

00:23:30 ◼   ► different types of enemies that would [TS]

00:23:31 ◼   ► pursue you and it was also kind of this [TS]

00:23:33 ◼   ► breakthrough in terms of how they told [TS]

00:23:35 ◼   ► this story in a first-person shooter [TS]

00:23:36 ◼   ► because they would be kinda scripted [TS]

00:23:37 ◼   ► action sequences would show up and be [TS]

00:23:40 ◼   ► aliens fighting monsters or people [TS]

00:23:42 ◼   ► breaking down a wall and coming at you [TS]

00:23:43 ◼   ► and all these things that perhaps before [TS]

00:23:45 ◼   ► would have really just happened in [TS]

00:23:46 ◼   ► cutscenes right so you can kind of play [TS]

00:23:48 ◼   ► through this this whole thing and you [TS]

00:23:50 ◼   ► know there but since then been that many [TS]

00:23:52 ◼   ► games and unfortunately the half-life [TS]

00:23:53 ◼   ► series has not even been concluded yet [TS]

00:23:55 ◼   ► which is increasingly frustrating but [TS]

00:23:58 ◼   ► yeah that's half life Steve did you want [TS]

00:23:59 ◼   ► to say anything about half life since I [TS]

00:24:00 ◼   ► stole it from you that's all right now I [TS]

00:24:02 ◼   ► was just gonna point out the you make a [TS]

00:24:04 ◼   ► good point about the fact that it's [TS]

00:24:06 ◼   ► probably was the first [TS]

00:24:07 ◼   ► first person shooter have a real [TS]

00:24:08 ◼   ► narrative that you lived through means [TS]

00:24:11 ◼   ► you know I think Star Wars dark forces [TS]

00:24:12 ◼   ► came a little came a little earlier but [TS]

00:24:14 ◼   ► that yeah the you know they were there [TS]

00:24:16 ◼   ► were the occasional their assumptions [TS]

00:24:18 ◼   ► you have with your your buddy a Jan but [TS]

00:24:22 ◼   ► most of the actual storyline was told in [TS]

00:24:25 ◼   ► those sort of texts screens in between [TS]

00:24:26 ◼   ► the levels and this I mean you knew it [TS]

00:24:28 ◼   ► was something special right from that [TS]

00:24:29 ◼   ► groundbreaking opening sequence where [TS]

00:24:31 ◼   ► you're travelling to work you're on the [TS]

00:24:33 ◼   ► Black Mesa tram and you can catch the [TS]

00:24:35 ◼   ► campuses of giant robots and huge links [TS]

00:24:38 ◼   ► of toxic waste and you get the [TS]

00:24:39 ◼   ► impression that perhaps safety [TS]

00:24:41 ◼   ► regulations or not the Black Mesa [TS]

00:24:42 ◼   ► facilities highest priority but they [TS]

00:24:45 ◼   ► were just there are so many great [TS]

00:24:47 ◼   ► moments in that and it was aight i think [TS]

00:24:48 ◼   ► that the design was was done from the [TS]

00:24:51 ◼   ► perspective that you let's come up with [TS]

00:24:53 ◼   ► what would be cool they have happened in [TS]

00:24:55 ◼   ► this game then we'll worry about how to [TS]

00:24:56 ◼   ► implement it later so you get stuff like [TS]

00:24:58 ◼   ► that amazing sequence in the missile [TS]

00:25:00 ◼   ► silo with the tentacles that can only [TS]

00:25:02 ◼   ► hear you and then there's that big room [TS]

00:25:04 ◼   ► where you're sort of introduced to the [TS]

00:25:05 ◼   ► ninja who hadn't showed up at that point [TS]

00:25:07 ◼   ► and when the helicopter the damn [TS]

00:25:10 ◼   ► helicopter you have to shoot it out of [TS]

00:25:12 ◼   ► the sky with missiles over and over [TS]

00:25:13 ◼   ► again running back and forth along the [TS]

00:25:15 ◼   ► cliff for an entire afternoon but the [TS]

00:25:17 ◼   ► best thing with the helicopter is it has [TS]

00:25:19 ◼   ► shown up in so many scenes and I've been [TS]

00:25:21 ◼   ► sort of the bane of your existence and [TS]

00:25:22 ◼   ► you finally got to take it down it was [TS]

00:25:24 ◼   ► the greatest moment up telling up till [TS]

00:25:26 ◼   ► that point in first-person shooters so [TS]

00:25:28 ◼   ► wonderful game I I still busted out and [TS]

00:25:31 ◼   ► play at every couple years I've waited [TS]

00:25:33 ◼   ► through have not played recently when I [TS]

00:25:35 ◼   ► played it through at least four or five [TS]

00:25:36 ◼   ► times and part of that was kind of the [TS]

00:25:37 ◼   ► power of the engine that they built for [TS]

00:25:39 ◼   ► it which was ended up being kind of [TS]

00:25:40 ◼   ► important for a lot of games around then [TS]

00:25:42 ◼   ► counter-strike was originally a [TS]

00:25:44 ◼   ► half-life mod which would become its own [TS]

00:25:45 ◼   ► game later [TS]

00:25:47 ◼   ► you know the kind of team fortress that [TS]

00:25:49 ◼   ► existed before half life but that was [TS]

00:25:51 ◼   ► the half-life version of team fortress [TS]

00:25:52 ◼   ► that became really really popular and [TS]

00:25:54 ◼   ► then there were all these other kind of [TS]

00:25:55 ◼   ► very weird strange games that people [TS]

00:25:59 ◼   ► would build for that that was that we're [TS]

00:26:00 ◼   ► really kind of cool and neat [TS]

00:26:01 ◼   ► yeah I love your observation about peak [TS]

00:26:05 ◼   ► rate I never you never thought about [TS]

00:26:07 ◼   ► that fit so like as a matter of fact in [TS]

00:26:09 ◼   ► ultimate seven that there's a lot of [TS]

00:26:11 ◼   ► service in Game puzzles but one of the [TS]

00:26:13 ◼   ► ones i found out about many years later [TS]

00:26:14 ◼   ► is in that first city if you take all of [TS]

00:26:17 ◼   ► the crates and in the town and build a [TS]

00:26:20 ◼   ► staircase to get you up [TS]

00:26:21 ◼   ► the top of a certain building it [TS]

00:26:23 ◼   ► basically has everything that you need [TS]

00:26:24 ◼   ► to win entire can also just out of [TS]

00:26:27 ◼   ► curiosity has anyone ever tried to [TS]

00:26:29 ◼   ► actually take a part of create with a [TS]

00:26:30 ◼   ► crowbar [TS]

00:26:31 ◼   ► well you can just hit it with a wrench [TS]

00:26:32 ◼   ► and explodes into a thousand pieces yeah [TS]

00:26:34 ◼   ► sure I think I'd like open open a couple [TS]

00:26:38 ◼   ► actual crates it's like they're not [TS]

00:26:39 ◼   ► messing around it's not like he just [TS]

00:26:41 ◼   ► like hit it breaks like an easter egg [TS]

00:26:42 ◼   ► it's like you you know i mean it's [TS]

00:26:44 ◼   ► something that you send stuff in it's [TS]

00:26:47 ◼   ► designed to be resilient you got the [TS]

00:26:49 ◼   ► other kind of crazy you got the crate [TS]

00:26:51 ◼   ► that can't be destroyed by any means [TS]

00:26:52 ◼   ► whatsoever [TS]

00:26:53 ◼   ► back at the dawn of the Internet [TS]

00:26:54 ◼   ► somebody proposed a start to create [TS]

00:26:56 ◼   ► metric old man Murray yeah he's still [TS]

00:27:01 ◼   ► around I guess [TS]

00:27:02 ◼   ► plenty of crates in half-life by the way [TS]

00:27:04 ◼   ► we should point out if you're just [TS]

00:27:06 ◼   ► joining us you are listening to create [TS]

00:27:08 ◼   ► talk where we talk about Christmas [TS]

00:27:10 ◼   ► that's great hair great that's what a [TS]

00:27:13 ◼   ► gordon freeman spent all those years in [TS]

00:27:14 ◼   ► school learning just the right place to [TS]

00:27:17 ◼   ► hit the create with the crowbar and [TS]

00:27:18 ◼   ► instantly flattens he has a phd people [TS]

00:27:21 ◼   ► yeah it's all you hit that you can't [TS]

00:27:23 ◼   ► just hit anywhere it's like that guy [TS]

00:27:24 ◼   ► with the chalk mark on the generator you [TS]

00:27:26 ◼   ► know the the chalk mark is one dollar [TS]

00:27:28 ◼   ► but ten thousand dollars for know where [TS]

00:27:29 ◼   ► to put it and mom said my video gaming [TS]

00:27:32 ◼   ► would be of no use in my eventual [TS]

00:27:33 ◼   ► factory job i would say for those who [TS]

00:27:36 ◼   ► have not played half life if you're a [TS]

00:27:37 ◼   ► little put off by like how far back half [TS]

00:27:39 ◼   ► life is a game you know the more recent [TS]

00:27:41 ◼   ► you know half life that was done with [TS]

00:27:44 ◼   ► the source engine is obviously a lot [TS]

00:27:45 ◼   ► more graphically impressive [TS]

00:27:47 ◼   ► there's also an update of it that I [TS]

00:27:49 ◼   ► think people on the internet like almost [TS]

00:27:51 ◼   ► a decade on to the point where the [TS]

00:27:52 ◼   ► update might need an update again in [TS]

00:27:54 ◼   ► like a couple years where they built it [TS]

00:27:57 ◼   ► with the source engine but yea half-life [TS]

00:27:59 ◼   ► 2 is also a great game [TS]

00:28:01 ◼   ► I know some people who started with [TS]

00:28:02 ◼   ► half-life 2 and it's it feels very kind [TS]

00:28:05 ◼   ► of disorienting and you have no idea [TS]

00:28:06 ◼   ► what's going on but that's actually part [TS]

00:28:07 ◼   ► of the story is that you like you show [TS]

00:28:10 ◼   ► up in an athlete to and the protective [TS]

00:28:12 ◼   ► literally doesn't know what's going on [TS]

00:28:13 ◼   ► it is disorienting so it's not like [TS]

00:28:14 ◼   ► you're missing you're not missing on [TS]

00:28:16 ◼   ► like the end of half life where they [TS]

00:28:17 ◼   ► totally explain what happens i think i [TS]

00:28:19 ◼   ► went looked up the end of half life when [TS]

00:28:20 ◼   ► I started playing half-life 2 i think is [TS]

00:28:22 ◼   ► ask you about it you're like the door [TS]

00:28:24 ◼   ► you're supposed to feel like they're [TS]

00:28:25 ◼   ► like okay then that's just life [TS]

00:28:27 ◼   ► disoriented confusion staggering around [TS]

00:28:30 ◼   ► public transportation put in stasis by [TS]

00:28:32 ◼   ► some mysterious government figure [TS]

00:28:35 ◼   ► and crates don't forget the crates [TS]

00:28:36 ◼   ► damned if you don't learn this stuff you [TS]

00:28:38 ◼   ► know in a game just gonna learn it on [TS]

00:28:39 ◼   ► the streets that's no good [TS]

00:28:41 ◼   ► so it's full of crates Steve let's what [TS]

00:28:43 ◼   ► a-what create oriented game where you [TS]

00:28:45 ◼   ► going to choose [TS]

00:28:46 ◼   ► no crates in my game no are you sure the [TS]

00:28:49 ◼   ► video game if it doesn't have creates [TS]

00:28:51 ◼   ► its true this is a little early for [TS]

00:28:53 ◼   ► creates I think I and half-life is a [TS]

00:28:56 ◼   ► good game but I'm surprised and a little [TS]

00:28:58 ◼   ► disappointed that nobody has picked what [TS]

00:29:00 ◼   ► is objectively the best game ever made [TS]

00:29:02 ◼   ► and that is that is its from 1991 there [TS]

00:29:07 ◼   ► aren't very many games that are over two [TS]

00:29:09 ◼   ► decades old that I still regularly play [TS]

00:29:10 ◼   ► not out of nostalgia but just because [TS]

00:29:13 ◼   ► it's a damn fine game that still has [TS]

00:29:15 ◼   ► something to offer even after all these [TS]

00:29:17 ◼   ► years and this one I bust out at least [TS]

00:29:19 ◼   ► once a year it is sid meier's [TS]

00:29:22 ◼   ► civilization on which is just an utterly [TS]

00:29:27 ◼   ► fantastic game design it's really [TS]

00:29:29 ◼   ► frankly hard to believe how good it is [TS]

00:29:31 ◼   ► considering all the different intricate [TS]

00:29:33 ◼   ► pieces that make it up for those who may [TS]

00:29:37 ◼   ► be unfamiliar you start with a single [TS]

00:29:39 ◼   ► settler unit at the dawn of civilization [TS]

00:29:41 ◼   ► and from there you build an empire [TS]

00:29:44 ◼   ► capable of surviving throughout all of [TS]

00:29:46 ◼   ► human history where you win either by [TS]

00:29:49 ◼   ► destroying every other civilization or [TS]

00:29:51 ◼   ► being the first with the technological [TS]

00:29:53 ◼   ► know-how to build a rocket to Alpha [TS]

00:29:54 ◼   ► Centauri and you know either one is good [TS]

00:29:58 ◼   ► but it's definitely more fun to dominate [TS]

00:30:00 ◼   ► your your neighbors [TS]

00:30:02 ◼   ► there's just so much I love about this [TS]

00:30:04 ◼   ► game i love how completely different [TS]

00:30:06 ◼   ► every single game plays the the world is [TS]

00:30:09 ◼   ► randomized it starts out your kind of [TS]

00:30:11 ◼   ► hidden behind this dark fog of war and [TS]

00:30:13 ◼   ► you uncover squares as you move your guy [TS]

00:30:15 ◼   ► around but you have no idea whether [TS]

00:30:17 ◼   ► you're starting out next 25 other rival [TS]

00:30:20 ◼   ► civilizations or you're alone on some [TS]

00:30:22 ◼   ► sort of small island and won't run [TS]

00:30:24 ◼   ► across anybody else until the age of [TS]

00:30:26 ◼   ► sales that completely changes the way [TS]

00:30:27 ◼   ► the game works [TS]

00:30:29 ◼   ► I love the the constant balancing after [TS]

00:30:31 ◼   ► trying to maintain your your [TS]

00:30:32 ◼   ► civilization you knew what you want to [TS]

00:30:35 ◼   ► gain population so your city can be more [TS]

00:30:37 ◼   ► productive but if it gets too [TS]

00:30:38 ◼   ► overpopulated the citizens get ticked [TS]

00:30:39 ◼   ► off and riot you know you can modify [TS]

00:30:42 ◼   ► them by directing more of the city's [TS]

00:30:44 ◼   ► production to luxury items but if you do [TS]

00:30:45 ◼   ► that then you can keep the warm [TS]

00:30:47 ◼   ► enrolling and you've got the Babylonians [TS]

00:30:49 ◼   ► camped out on your eastern border and [TS]

00:30:51 ◼   ► it's a it's a lot of fun just kind of [TS]

00:30:53 ◼   ► trying to keep things in order i like [TS]

00:30:57 ◼   ► the flow of the game i like the fact [TS]

00:30:59 ◼   ► that as the centuries past the gameplay [TS]

00:31:01 ◼   ► kind of changes organically through [TS]

00:31:03 ◼   ► these different areas you start I just [TS]

00:31:05 ◼   ► trying to eke out an existence and fend [TS]

00:31:07 ◼   ► off the barbarians and then there's kind [TS]

00:31:09 ◼   ► of an age where you've kind of got a [TS]

00:31:10 ◼   ► foothold your civilization is starting [TS]

00:31:12 ◼   ► to thrive and so you expand and explore [TS]

00:31:15 ◼   ► and meet some of your neighbors and [TS]

00:31:17 ◼   ► hopefully grind them into dust and then [TS]

00:31:19 ◼   ► there's an industrial revolution period [TS]

00:31:21 ◼   ► that kicks off in your building [TS]

00:31:22 ◼   ► factories and battleships and basically [TS]

00:31:24 ◼   ► polluting the hell out of everything and [TS]

00:31:26 ◼   ► then there's a period where your [TS]

00:31:27 ◼   ► cleaning up the mess from the industrial [TS]

00:31:29 ◼   ► revolution and mopping up the toxic [TS]

00:31:31 ◼   ► waste from the new she dropped on the [TS]

00:31:32 ◼   ► Aztecs archers it's just it's it's [TS]

00:31:35 ◼   ► always kind of fresh and I think the [TS]

00:31:38 ◼   ► fact that it changes so frequently is [TS]

00:31:40 ◼   ► what what keeps you feeling like you [TS]

00:31:42 ◼   ► have to keep playing and playing and [TS]

00:31:43 ◼   ► playing it's almost impossible to quit [TS]

00:31:45 ◼   ► playing this game you just want to see [TS]

00:31:47 ◼   ► what happens on the next turn mostly i [TS]

00:31:50 ◼   ► love just how accessible it is because [TS]

00:31:52 ◼   ► it's got this great learning curve it [TS]

00:31:55 ◼   ► doesn't overwhelm you like a lot of [TS]

00:31:57 ◼   ► strategy games with a bunch of units and [TS]

00:31:59 ◼   ► resources and things just start you off [TS]

00:32:00 ◼   ► with this one piddling little covered [TS]

00:32:03 ◼   ► wagon and all you can do for a while as [TS]

00:32:05 ◼   ► bill granaries and put down a few roads [TS]

00:32:07 ◼   ► and then over time it adds gameplay [TS]

00:32:09 ◼   ► elements a little at a time until you've [TS]

00:32:10 ◼   ► got a dozen cities in a hundred units in [TS]

00:32:13 ◼   ► this gigantic network of railroads I [TS]

00:32:16 ◼   ► used to play this a lot in college and [TS]

00:32:18 ◼   ► when somebody was over drinking beers [TS]

00:32:19 ◼   ► I'd say hey I've got this really cool [TS]

00:32:22 ◼   ► computer game you should check out and I [TS]

00:32:24 ◼   ► was always amazed even my dumbest [TS]

00:32:26 ◼   ► friends but sometimes get sucked in and [TS]

00:32:29 ◼   ► they end up playing for like 10 hours [TS]

00:32:30 ◼   ► and i have to kick them out like five in [TS]

00:32:32 ◼   ► the morning all right it's time to go [TS]

00:32:33 ◼   ► home dude [TS]

00:32:33 ◼   ► so in and it's still it still works [TS]

00:32:37 ◼   ► wonderfully on me to that there have [TS]

00:32:39 ◼   ► been i think five total now although i [TS]

00:32:41 ◼   ► think the first is the simplest and [TS]

00:32:43 ◼   ► probably for that reason the best [TS]

00:32:45 ◼   ► they've kind of added i think a few too [TS]

00:32:48 ◼   ► many complexities to the later models if [TS]

00:32:51 ◼   ► two is probably about as good because [TS]

00:32:54 ◼   ► they didn't change a lot in that [TS]

00:32:55 ◼   ► but really just a fantastic game and [TS]

00:32:58 ◼   ► certainly the best that i have ever [TS]

00:33:01 ◼   ► personally played nice i played civ 3i [TS]

00:33:07 ◼   ► think for a little while and I proof i [TS]

00:33:11 ◼   ► proved your selection I'd nobody else is [TS]

00:33:13 ◼   ► saying anything that I think you're [TS]

00:33:14 ◼   ► terrible i played civ net which i [TS]

00:33:17 ◼   ► believe was the original civ but with [TS]

00:33:19 ◼   ► you know vague early early web-based you [TS]

00:33:22 ◼   ► know multiplayer mode built into it I [TS]

00:33:25 ◼   ► remember some version of said completely [TS]

00:33:27 ◼   ► taking over my social group for about [TS]

00:33:29 ◼   ► six months where we were just playing it [TS]

00:33:31 ◼   ► constantly [TS]

00:33:33 ◼   ► huh and then we managed to kick it [TS]

00:33:34 ◼   ► somehow hit rock bottom [TS]

00:33:37 ◼   ► he the disc broke something like that up [TS]

00:33:39 ◼   ► it's got its it's got its hooks in me [TS]

00:33:41 ◼   ► maybe just talking about it i want to [TS]

00:33:43 ◼   ► break i have i've been playing a lot of [TS]

00:33:44 ◼   ► civ4 evolution on the xbox 360 because [TS]

00:33:47 ◼   ► it was free revolutions fun it's very [TS]

00:33:49 ◼   ► simplified it they dumb it down for the [TS]

00:33:51 ◼   ► xbox but it is fun and you know it's a [TS]

00:33:53 ◼   ► free game that I've probably put you [TS]

00:33:55 ◼   ► know 50 or 60 hours into it so you know [TS]

00:33:57 ◼   ► you can get on your iPad by the way and [TS]

00:33:58 ◼   ► it's pretty it's pretty good port i [TS]

00:34:01 ◼   ► recommend it for people who are [TS]

00:34:02 ◼   ► interested and want to kind of get into [TS]

00:34:03 ◼   ► a simplified version [TS]

00:34:05 ◼   ► well so there's still lots we won't be [TS]

00:34:06 ◼   ► seeing him again for another four weeks [TS]

00:34:08 ◼   ► he's going to play civilization that's [TS]

00:34:09 ◼   ► right i'm glad this is going so fast we [TS]

00:34:13 ◼   ► might get one round in John Sarah time [TS]

00:34:15 ◼   ► so that's your turn [TS]

00:34:16 ◼   ► it's making me read it's making me [TS]

00:34:17 ◼   ► reconsider my entire pictures taken so [TS]

00:34:19 ◼   ► long yeah although if you thought [TS]

00:34:21 ◼   ► putting me towards the end of the order [TS]

00:34:22 ◼   ► to make me not have an introductory [TS]

00:34:23 ◼   ► statement you're wrong but it will be [TS]

00:34:25 ◼   ► for haha hey hey I was looking for it is [TS]

00:34:28 ◼   ► it really introductory a minute 40 it's [TS]

00:34:30 ◼   ► a framing device since i'm about to go [TS]

00:34:32 ◼   ► on like three weeks of travel and in [TS]

00:34:34 ◼   ► front of bank episodes desperately i'm [TS]

00:34:36 ◼   ► sort of sitting back and thinking [TS]

00:34:37 ◼   ► alright two-part episode great release [TS]

00:34:42 ◼   ► of travel are you sailing to the new [TS]

00:34:43 ◼   ► world [TS]

00:34:44 ◼   ► go ahead John unlike the console game [TS]

00:34:47 ◼   ► draft there's not like four in my mind [TS]

00:34:50 ◼   ► is like a clear winner just seems like [TS]

00:34:51 ◼   ► this so many more computer games maybe [TS]

00:34:53 ◼   ► that's not true but it seems that way [TS]

00:34:54 ◼   ► like the diversity and so many different [TS]

00:34:56 ◼   ► you know it is when I think of computer [TS]

00:34:58 ◼   ► games it wasn't easy for me to say oh I [TS]

00:35:00 ◼   ► know exactly what to pick one two three [TS]

00:35:01 ◼   ► four five and so I said maybe instead of [TS]

00:35:05 ◼   ► trying to pick the best or like the most [TS]

00:35:06 ◼   ► important games like it's become very 64 [TS]

00:35:09 ◼   ► and me an ocarina of time somethin good [TS]

00:35:10 ◼   ► i'm gonna try to draft games that are [TS]

00:35:12 ◼   ► the most meaningful to me and I also [TS]

00:35:14 ◼   ► felt some pressure to represent format [TS]

00:35:18 ◼   ► gaming because I figured most a lot of [TS]

00:35:20 ◼   ► people on this podcast will not [TS]

00:35:21 ◼   ► represent maybe Jason I got some you [TS]

00:35:23 ◼   ► don't represent the the the mac gamers [TS]

00:35:26 ◼   ► the people but it's not just people who [TS]

00:35:28 ◼   ► have macs and play games with people who [TS]

00:35:29 ◼   ► weren't allowed to have anything else I [TS]

00:35:31 ◼   ► wasn't a lot of game consoles it didn't [TS]

00:35:32 ◼   ► have a pc the mac was all i had so i [TS]

00:35:34 ◼   ► definitely feel I need to to represent [TS]

00:35:38 ◼   ► gaming yeah this is good that I hear the [TS]

00:35:39 ◼   ► five by five network is really hostile [TS]

00:35:41 ◼   ► to the whole you know Mac user [TS]

00:35:42 ◼   ► environment mac gamers mac gamers yes [TS]

00:35:44 ◼   ► there are rare breed but before I [TS]

00:35:47 ◼   ► embarked on those pics since nothing [TS]

00:35:49 ◼   ► scientific that already i am I have [TS]

00:35:51 ◼   ► boosted one pic to the top of my order [TS]

00:35:53 ◼   ► which I assume someone else would pick [TS]

00:35:54 ◼   ► which is better than every game is [TS]

00:35:56 ◼   ► talking about so far and that is [TS]

00:35:57 ◼   ► portable [TS]

00:35:58 ◼   ► no not true portal yes I'll come on dude [TS]

00:36:00 ◼   ► to demo [TS]

00:36:02 ◼   ► oh yeah it was great i played it on this [TS]

00:36:03 ◼   ► thing called the xbox 360 to check out [TS]

00:36:05 ◼   ► haha [TS]

00:36:06 ◼   ► this isn't a demo draft John now it also [TS]

00:36:09 ◼   ► the portal was a packing game as part of [TS]

00:36:11 ◼   ► the orange box like just kind of I key i [TS]

00:36:13 ◼   ► don't know if they thought it was like a [TS]

00:36:14 ◼   ► side or a little bonus hey you could [TS]

00:36:17 ◼   ► have life you get team fortress and I [TS]

00:36:18 ◼   ► saw the game called portal or whatever [TS]

00:36:19 ◼   ► and very quickly portal became the most [TS]

00:36:22 ◼   ► important thing in the orange box and [TS]

00:36:25 ◼   ► like I know plenty of people who bought [TS]

00:36:27 ◼   ► that and just didn't play anything [TS]

00:36:28 ◼   ► except for portal on their portal was [TS]

00:36:30 ◼   ► first person games kinda like a puzzle [TS]

00:36:32 ◼   ► game simple mechanic of making a one [TS]

00:36:34 ◼   ► opening here when opening their good you [TS]

00:36:36 ◼   ► go in one portal you come out the other [TS]

00:36:37 ◼   ► the game teaches you it's mechanic very [TS]

00:36:40 ◼   ► simply and slowly it it does everything [TS]

00:36:42 ◼   ► you can imagine it's useful to do with [TS]

00:36:44 ◼   ► that mechanic and and that sounds like a [TS]

00:36:48 ◼   ► fine sounds like a packet know whatever [TS]

00:36:49 ◼   ► silly party when you saw the demos you [TS]

00:36:51 ◼   ► like I was kind of a clever idea but [TS]

00:36:52 ◼   ► whatever how they gonna make a game out [TS]

00:36:53 ◼   ► of that the secret the secret sauce was [TS]

00:36:56 ◼   ► an amazing story and I setting and a [TS]

00:37:00 ◼   ► gameplay experience that was not like [TS]

00:37:02 ◼   ► running around with a gun sticking out [TS]

00:37:03 ◼   ► in front of shooting everything and it [TS]

00:37:05 ◼   ► really was a story that you got into and [TS]

00:37:07 ◼   ► there wasn't much to it like there was a [TS]

00:37:08 ◼   ► voice over there was characters the [TS]

00:37:10 ◼   ► environment is kind of a character but [TS]

00:37:11 ◼   ► that whole story of Gladys and and the [TS]

00:37:15 ◼   ► the facility that you were trapped in [TS]

00:37:17 ◼   ► and your predicament built to I thought [TS]

00:37:20 ◼   ► is the best ending that I've ever played [TS]

00:37:21 ◼   ► of it [TS]

00:37:22 ◼   ► a computer game and it only works if [TS]

00:37:25 ◼   ► you've played the game and gotten good [TS]

00:37:27 ◼   ► at all the mechanics because any sort of [TS]

00:37:29 ◼   ► finale your boss battle can be [TS]

00:37:30 ◼   ► frustrating if you're trying to play [TS]

00:37:32 ◼   ► through it and fighting against the [TS]

00:37:34 ◼   ► mechanic or keep dying or whatever but [TS]

00:37:35 ◼   ► half-life it are not half-life portal is [TS]

00:37:38 ◼   ► an easy enough game i think for the [TS]

00:37:40 ◼   ► average gamer but by the time you get to [TS]

00:37:41 ◼   ► that final level you can beat it on the [TS]

00:37:43 ◼   ► first try and you can hit every single [TS]

00:37:45 ◼   ► storey be like it's that beautiful [TS]

00:37:46 ◼   ► moment where you and the author of the [TS]

00:37:50 ◼   ► game are in sync and during does this is [TS]

00:37:53 ◼   ► well I think and what they expect you to [TS]

00:37:56 ◼   ► be doing you're doing their voice your [TS]

00:37:58 ◼   ► music cues happen exactly the time [TS]

00:37:59 ◼   ► they're supposed to happen you react to [TS]

00:38:01 ◼   ► them and the way you're supposed to [TS]

00:38:01 ◼   ► react to them you do the things like [TS]

00:38:03 ◼   ► it's all comes together it's gonna get [TS]

00:38:04 ◼   ► dance between the author of the game far [TS]

00:38:06 ◼   ► back in time and you playing the game [TS]

00:38:08 ◼   ► right now and I still think about that [TS]

00:38:10 ◼   ► finale and like all the different sound [TS]

00:38:12 ◼   ► clips that were played in the things i [TS]

00:38:13 ◼   ► did and the panic i felt and the fact [TS]

00:38:16 ◼   ► that I didn't you know I didn't have to [TS]

00:38:17 ◼   ► retry it over and over again that just [TS]

00:38:19 ◼   ► sailed right through it was just such an [TS]

00:38:21 ◼   ► amazing experience like the whole [TS]

00:38:23 ◼   ► learning curve the ramp the little twist [TS]

00:38:25 ◼   ► in the middle culminating in the final [TS]

00:38:26 ◼   ► boss battle and I was just blown away by [TS]

00:38:29 ◼   ► it and of course I got portal 2 and and [TS]

00:38:30 ◼   ► arguably portal two is a more [TS]

00:38:31 ◼   ► accomplished game but portal one you [TS]

00:38:33 ◼   ► know the same reason you pick half life [TS]

00:38:35 ◼   ► instead of half life 2 right they're [TS]

00:38:36 ◼   ► both great games and arguably half-life [TS]

00:38:38 ◼   ► 2 is a better game if you look in [TS]

00:38:39 ◼   ► isolation but the first one gets it in [TS]

00:38:41 ◼   ► this case portal is my pic you didn't [TS]

00:38:45 ◼   ► see my three favorite things about the [TS]

00:38:47 ◼   ► game which are the companion cube the [TS]

00:38:50 ◼   ► voice acting for GLaDOS and the song at [TS]

00:38:52 ◼   ► the end all of which are like that just [TS]

00:38:56 ◼   ► that song alone gives it a better [TS]

00:38:57 ◼   ► soundtrack than ninety-five percent of [TS]

00:38:59 ◼   ► computer games [TS]

00:39:00 ◼   ► well that's like that's like your reward [TS]

00:39:02 ◼   ► at the end if you are a crazy John to [TS]

00:39:03 ◼   ► cultivate like I am and it's a wonderful [TS]

00:39:05 ◼   ► song that has that has a life outside of [TS]

00:39:08 ◼   ► his you know his fandom of his music or [TS]

00:39:11 ◼   ► whatever but that rolls over the credits [TS]

00:39:12 ◼   ► right during the rest of the game yes [TS]

00:39:14 ◼   ► that the voice acting very different [TS]

00:39:15 ◼   ► voice acting for everything for the [TS]

00:39:17 ◼   ► turrets 22 Gladys yourself that it's [TS]

00:39:19 ◼   ► just it's all amazing and like the ques [TS]

00:39:21 ◼   ► line up nicely you never feel like [TS]

00:39:23 ◼   ► you're it's like a repeated sound worse [TS]

00:39:24 ◼   ► they're playing a sound clip over and [TS]

00:39:26 ◼   ► over again like an RTS is when you click [TS]

00:39:28 ◼   ► on the unit says something stupid thing [TS]

00:39:29 ◼   ► and drives you crazy [TS]

00:39:31 ◼   ► that never happens in this game it feels [TS]

00:39:32 ◼   ► told the organic tomato [TS]

00:39:33 ◼   ► that's true there's just enough turrets [TS]

00:39:35 ◼   ► so it's fun when you get one that says I [TS]

00:39:38 ◼   ► don't hate you as you kill it for little [TS]

00:39:41 ◼   ► turret and in the time we've discussed [TS]

00:39:44 ◼   ► it you could have played through the [TS]

00:39:45 ◼   ► entire that haha not getting a great [TS]

00:39:47 ◼   ► game it is very short [TS]

00:39:48 ◼   ► I mean I did play it in one sitting you [TS]

00:39:51 ◼   ► know the first time I ever played it i [TS]

00:39:52 ◼   ► think i played in two sittings took me [TS]

00:39:54 ◼   ► about two or three hours maybe but it [TS]

00:39:56 ◼   ► did you know it was it was one of the [TS]

00:39:58 ◼   ► deciding factors and me going out and [TS]

00:39:59 ◼   ► getting a 360 didn't start as a student [TS]

00:40:02 ◼   ► project right it wasn't narbacular drop [TS]

00:40:05 ◼   ► print in the original version you could [TS]

00:40:08 ◼   ► shoot portals through portals and they [TS]

00:40:10 ◼   ► took that out because that I think that [TS]

00:40:12 ◼   ► made things very confused now John did [TS]

00:40:13 ◼   ► you know you mentioned the website old [TS]

00:40:15 ◼   ► man Murray before [TS]

00:40:16 ◼   ► did you know that the writers of that [TS]

00:40:17 ◼   ► website where the writers for portal I [TS]

00:40:19 ◼   ► did you down for some games three hours [TS]

00:40:22 ◼   ► is the right like they don't have to be [TS]

00:40:23 ◼   ► a civilization [TS]

00:40:25 ◼   ► I'm not disagree with that i think [TS]

00:40:27 ◼   ► that's that's that's a good quality in a [TS]

00:40:29 ◼   ► game like there's a lot of games to play [TS]

00:40:30 ◼   ► more recently that I've like yeah I [TS]

00:40:32 ◼   ► don't want to downplay 40 hours of game [TS]

00:40:33 ◼   ► right now I want to play like a game the [TS]

00:40:35 ◼   ► last couple hours [TS]

00:40:36 ◼   ► yeah thnkx Skyrim but I don't want to [TS]

00:40:37 ◼   ► run over that mountain again they've [TS]

00:40:39 ◼   ► gone through all the mechanics by the [TS]

00:40:41 ◼   ► time you've done that you've done all [TS]

00:40:42 ◼   ► the mechanics you can do they like you [TS]

00:40:43 ◼   ► don't want to go okay now what do 17 [TS]

00:40:45 ◼   ► levels where I use this particular trick [TS]

00:40:47 ◼   ► to it with the portals once you learn [TS]

00:40:48 ◼   ► the trick once you don't need to like [TS]

00:40:49 ◼   ► prove it to them over and over again and [TS]

00:40:51 ◼   ► the story comes to a reasonable [TS]

00:40:53 ◼   ► conclusion and there's the little sort [TS]

00:40:54 ◼   ► of the twist and it gives you the rest [TS]

00:40:56 ◼   ► of the gameplay which I don't know if [TS]

00:40:58 ◼   ► it's half of the gameplay but it feels [TS]

00:40:59 ◼   ► like a breaking point and then you're [TS]

00:41:01 ◼   ► onto something different and it has a [TS]

00:41:03 ◼   ► satisfying ending we put all games going [TS]

00:41:05 ◼   ► to teach you how to play the game but [TS]

00:41:07 ◼   ► portals particular successful in [TS]

00:41:08 ◼   ► teaching you how to play Portal and then [TS]

00:41:10 ◼   ► letting you enjoy that once it kind of [TS]

00:41:11 ◼   ► lets you go [TS]

00:41:12 ◼   ► although i've had many non gamer I've [TS]

00:41:14 ◼   ► tried to make many non gamers play [TS]

00:41:15 ◼   ► portal and portal teaches gamer gamers [TS]

00:41:17 ◼   ► that apply the game it is it's it's a [TS]

00:41:20 ◼   ► kind of you think wow it teaches you how [TS]

00:41:21 ◼   ► to play the game and you put a non-gamer [TS]

00:41:23 ◼   ► infirmary said no no it doesn't i feel [TS]

00:41:26 ◼   ► like there's a part pretty early on [TS]

00:41:27 ◼   ► where you like spin multiple ways and [TS]

00:41:29 ◼   ► it's like that's gonna make anyone who [TS]

00:41:30 ◼   ► hasn't logged a hundred hours in front [TS]

00:41:32 ◼   ► of an SPS nauseous you know you need the [TS]

00:41:34 ◼   ► right kind of spatial thinking yeah you [TS]

00:41:37 ◼   ► know you need to spend a hundred hours [TS]

00:41:39 ◼   ► playing do more have been an astronaut [TS]

00:41:41 ◼   ► Kaiser [TS]

00:41:41 ◼   ► I was both my marathon qualified me as a [TS]

00:41:46 ◼   ► marathon time [TS]

00:41:47 ◼   ► alright John that's a good one that was [TS]

00:41:49 ◼   ► on my list i had 13 things on my list in [TS]

00:41:51 ◼   ► the first round so far only one was [TS]

00:41:53 ◼   ► taken and that was portal so good job [TS]

00:41:56 ◼   ► ah my pick is going to be a computer [TS]

00:41:59 ◼   ► game although it has been on many other [TS]

00:42:01 ◼   ► platforms as well i think it can [TS]

00:42:03 ◼   ► it was developed for the everybody's [TS]

00:42:05 ◼   ► favorite computer platform the [TS]

00:42:06 ◼   ► electronic a 60 then ported to the [TS]

00:42:08 ◼   ► Commodore 64 it was invented 1984 it is [TS]

00:42:12 ◼   ► one of my favorite computer games of all [TS]

00:42:14 ◼   ► time it is tetris come on Ted res who [TS]

00:42:20 ◼   ► has a mac game right and well I played [TS]

00:42:22 ◼   ► it on the mac it was it's an everything [TS]

00:42:25 ◼   ► game i played it on the mac that i will [TS]

00:42:28 ◼   ► tell you my college years [TS]

00:42:30 ◼   ► Iseman more time playing tetris on my [TS]

00:42:32 ◼   ► mac than writing papers a lot more a lot [TS]

00:42:37 ◼   ► more my boss early on in my career who I [TS]

00:42:42 ◼   ► would come into her office and find your [TS]

00:42:44 ◼   ► playing Tetris and have to shame her [TS]

00:42:46 ◼   ► into getting back to doing her job was [TS]

00:42:48 ◼   ► an interesting welcome to the working [TS]

00:42:49 ◼   ► world but you know writers week [TS]

00:42:51 ◼   ► sometimes we have to put our brain [TS]

00:42:54 ◼   ► somewhere else for a little while until [TS]

00:42:56 ◼   ► inspiration strikes i still play tetris [TS]

00:42:59 ◼   ► i love it i'm not really satisfied with [TS]

00:43:01 ◼   ► Tetris on touch devices it I it doesn't [TS]

00:43:04 ◼   ► work as well I think you really need the [TS]

00:43:05 ◼   ► keyboard or you know a bunch of buttons [TS]

00:43:08 ◼   ► that you can hit in that space bar [TS]

00:43:09 ◼   ► dropping the the Tetris pieces to the [TS]

00:43:12 ◼   ► bottom of the screen fantastic crazy [TS]

00:43:14 ◼   ► crazy music that I love and if you [TS]

00:43:18 ◼   ► haven't looked many college marching [TS]

00:43:20 ◼   ► bands have done [TS]

00:43:21 ◼   ► tetris performances where portions of [TS]

00:43:24 ◼   ► the band form various falling Tetris [TS]

00:43:26 ◼   ► pieces as they play the music from [TS]

00:43:27 ◼   ► tetris so i had to pick it [TS]

00:43:30 ◼   ► I can't believe it's still there i had a [TS]

00:43:31 ◼   ► moment of revelation yesterday where [TS]

00:43:33 ◼   ► that oh that's what my pic should be it [TS]

00:43:35 ◼   ► should be tetris so I got Tetris i'm [TS]

00:43:37 ◼   ► going to waste my time playing tetris [TS]

00:43:38 ◼   ► too bad for all of you to go [TS]

00:43:40 ◼   ► tetris time for a very brief break to [TS]

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00:46:53 ◼   ► tetris moments was they had a version of [TS]

00:46:55 ◼   ► Tetris for the nintendo dsi that [TS]

00:46:57 ◼   ► actually had a multiplayer mode whereas [TS]

00:46:59 ◼   ► you would complete stuff it would drop [TS]

00:47:00 ◼   ► lines on other people and the number of [TS]

00:47:02 ◼   ► a person but the DA's is that [TS]

00:47:04 ◼   ► yeah for the nintendo DS are making us [TS]

00:47:05 ◼   ► feel old man that mode slightly predates [TS]

00:47:08 ◼   ► the s just a little while yet but people [TS]

00:47:10 ◼   ► to play at lan parties with a nintendo [TS]

00:47:11 ◼   ► des [TS]

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00:47:13 ◼   ► nintendo des doesn't need a lamb [TS]

00:47:15 ◼   ► actually it did the first version of it [TS]

00:47:19 ◼   ► before it had any kind of friends [TS]

00:47:20 ◼   ► friends social stuff here you're [TS]

00:47:22 ◼   ► thinking of the dsi which was the iOS [TS]

00:47:24 ◼   ► four injured [TS]

00:47:25 ◼   ► yeah there you go see I'm talking just [TS]

00:47:26 ◼   ► nintendo des alright so uh we have we [TS]

00:47:29 ◼   ► have to we have time for half around now [TS]

00:47:31 ◼   ► let's let's argue more about the [TS]

00:47:35 ◼   ► nintendo DS technical specification yeah [TS]

00:47:38 ◼   ► but please yeah that really excites me [TS]

00:47:40 ◼   ► dan moore and wake up a back around to [TS]

00:47:44 ◼   ► the top [TS]

00:47:45 ◼   ► god I've had a great nap good sitting [TS]

00:47:47 ◼   ► here playing games on my Pavley alright [TS]

00:47:49 ◼   ► yeah so jon jon was making noises about [TS]

00:47:52 ◼   ► a mac gaming so i think i'll pick a mac [TS]

00:47:54 ◼   ► game for my next one I shave you and I [TS]

00:47:57 ◼   ► huh [TS]

00:47:57 ◼   ► no I mean it was on my list I just I you [TS]

00:48:00 ◼   ► know I now I'm worried he might try to [TS]

00:48:01 ◼   ► stake it i don't know i'm gonna pick I [TS]

00:48:03 ◼   ► played a lot of games growing up and a [TS]

00:48:05 ◼   ► lot of those games were made by ambrosia [TS]

00:48:07 ◼   ► the venerable mac software maker who I [TS]

00:48:11 ◼   ► think now is basically out of business [TS]

00:48:12 ◼   ► but the one that I have the fondest [TS]

00:48:16 ◼   ► memory of is escape velocity which is a [TS]

00:48:19 ◼   ► fantastic space [TS]

00:48:22 ◼   ► Adventure trading / you know combat [TS]

00:48:28 ◼   ► space game you buy a little spaceship [TS]

00:48:30 ◼   ► start your space shuttle and you fly [TS]

00:48:32 ◼   ► around you move goods back and forth for [TS]

00:48:33 ◼   ► a while and you can afford a better ship [TS]

00:48:35 ◼   ► as you go along you might encounter [TS]

00:48:36 ◼   ► pirates and later versions the games [TS]

00:48:38 ◼   ► rebels and there's all these different [TS]

00:48:42 ◼   ► plots you can sort of get sucked into [TS]

00:48:43 ◼   ► it's got kind of a not quite a text [TS]

00:48:45 ◼   ► adventure but it does have that sort of [TS]

00:48:46 ◼   ► almost like point-and-click adventure [TS]

00:48:48 ◼   ► element to it and this is another one of [TS]

00:48:51 ◼   ► those games i used to play sort of [TS]

00:48:53 ◼   ► collaboratively with friends to the [TS]

00:48:55 ◼   ► point where the more recent years I've [TS]

00:48:57 ◼   ► revisited and we have like my friends I [TS]

00:48:59 ◼   ► will accept like the spreadsheet so we [TS]

00:49:00 ◼   ► can like figure out like all right if we [TS]

00:49:01 ◼   ► buy this good like really cheap here can [TS]

00:49:04 ◼   ► we sell it here and it doesn't make [TS]

00:49:05 ◼   ► sense like we're gonna spend too much [TS]

00:49:06 ◼   ► money and fuel jumping back and forth [TS]

00:49:08 ◼   ► bunch of times and you can upgrade your [TS]

00:49:11 ◼   ► ship if you want you can even acquire [TS]

00:49:12 ◼   ► like an entire fleet of ships i don't i [TS]

00:49:15 ◼   ► don't know if i ever technically beat [TS]

00:49:17 ◼   ► the any of these games there are three [TS]

00:49:19 ◼   ► of them but like they did definitely [TS]

00:49:22 ◼   ► suck up a ton of time because you could [TS]

00:49:24 ◼   ► put it like so much time to like jumping [TS]

00:49:26 ◼   ► back and forth between like two [TS]

00:49:27 ◼   ► different systems to embrace all this [TS]

00:49:29 ◼   ► money to like make like trick out your [TS]

00:49:31 ◼   ► ship in this awesome awesome way [TS]

00:49:32 ◼   ► although as I did was discussing this [TS]

00:49:34 ◼   ► game with Tony a couple a few days ago [TS]

00:49:37 ◼   ► pointing out that like you who is very [TS]

00:49:38 ◼   ► possible that you could get like either [TS]

00:49:40 ◼   ► run out of fuel in some totally [TS]

00:49:42 ◼   ► uninhabited system and start trying to [TS]

00:49:43 ◼   ► like beg people for fuel as they came [TS]

00:49:45 ◼   ► past which didn't always work great [TS]

00:49:47 ◼   ► or that like you started your [TS]

00:49:48 ◼   ► shuttlecraft and a hot got a great new [TS]

00:49:50 ◼   ► shower curtain just someone just blow [TS]

00:49:51 ◼   ► you up [TS]

00:49:52 ◼   ► we all do we always have to invest in an [TS]

00:49:54 ◼   ► escape pod like first thing you did but [TS]

00:49:57 ◼   ► it was very it was a sprite based game [TS]

00:49:58 ◼   ► and you can actually remember in the [TS]

00:50:00 ◼   ► first version i had you could go into [TS]

00:50:01 ◼   ► resident and you could start changing [TS]

00:50:03 ◼   ► colors and all this right so my friends [TS]

00:50:05 ◼   ► and I started trying to build an [TS]

00:50:06 ◼   ► expansion at one point which was very [TS]

00:50:07 ◼   ► very in-depth we're like programming all [TS]

00:50:10 ◼   ► the strings and making like we couldn't [TS]

00:50:12 ◼   ► really makes right so we just take the [TS]

00:50:13 ◼   ► sprites and change the colors but we [TS]

00:50:15 ◼   ► thought that was the awesomest thing in [TS]

00:50:16 ◼   ► the world and it's it's a lot of fun i [TS]

00:50:20 ◼   ► really i really want someone to remake [TS]

00:50:21 ◼   ► it for the iPad because there are there [TS]

00:50:24 ◼   ► are similar games but it seems so [TS]

00:50:26 ◼   ► obvious right because its touch base [TS]

00:50:28 ◼   ► like its top down is touch bases a [TS]

00:50:29 ◼   ► static screen it's right there right [TS]

00:50:31 ◼   ► yeah I would love to play that game [TS]

00:50:32 ◼   ► again on the ipad [TS]

00:50:33 ◼   ► I always wanted a version with [TS]

00:50:35 ◼   ► multiplayer I realized that would [TS]

00:50:36 ◼   ► probably have been kind of challenging [TS]

00:50:38 ◼   ► but I loved the idea of it as I mean [TS]

00:50:39 ◼   ► before you know things like mmos existed [TS]

00:50:42 ◼   ► this idea that you have this fast [TS]

00:50:44 ◼   ► universe and that somewhere out there [TS]

00:50:45 ◼   ► someone else might be flying there [TS]

00:50:46 ◼   ► little shuttlecraft around for the first [TS]

00:50:47 ◼   ► time so fantastic game if you haven't [TS]

00:50:50 ◼   ► played it i think it I think at least [TS]

00:50:52 ◼   ► Ivanova still runs on OS 10 i don't [TS]

00:50:54 ◼   ► remember if a backboard the original [TS]

00:50:56 ◼   ► versions to run without the classic [TS]

00:50:59 ◼   ► environment but fun super fun games [TS]

00:51:02 ◼   ► shareware did you ever get the star wars [TS]

00:51:04 ◼   ► fought for it [TS]

00:51:05 ◼   ► I remember it I I probably downloaded it [TS]

00:51:08 ◼   ► have a star star destroyer with explains [TS]

00:51:10 ◼   ► that came out it was unbelievable yes [TS]

00:51:12 ◼   ► yes I did have that it was pretty great [TS]

00:51:15 ◼   ► yeah there are a lot of great models for [TS]

00:51:16 ◼   ► those are pretty cool so yeah I don't [TS]

00:51:19 ◼   ► know I that's one of my fondest memories [TS]

00:51:21 ◼   ► of mac games ever and i played it i mean [TS]

00:51:23 ◼   ► i think so even know which i think is [TS]

00:51:25 ◼   ► the most complete of them came out in [TS]

00:51:26 ◼   ► 2002 but the earliest one came out when [TS]

00:51:28 ◼   ► I was still in high school I think so [TS]

00:51:30 ◼   ► have my little postcard somewhere still [TS]

00:51:32 ◼   ► which has my license code on it [TS]

00:51:34 ◼   ► very nice escape velocity Mac game good [TS]

00:51:37 ◼   ► good looking better now [TS]

00:51:39 ◼   ► Monty pick another text adventure or [TS]

00:51:41 ◼   ► something else I had decided not to pick [TS]

00:51:43 ◼   ► all text adventures [TS]

00:51:45 ◼   ► hello that was certainly an option [TS]

00:51:47 ◼   ► tempting yes [TS]

00:51:48 ◼   ► instead i'm going with a great game one [TS]

00:51:50 ◼   ► they may have played more than any other [TS]

00:51:52 ◼   ► computer game it's been mentioned a [TS]

00:51:54 ◼   ► couple times already is doom very [TS]

00:51:59 ◼   ► similar to trinity yes except instead of [TS]

00:52:04 ◼   ► figuring out how to conceal yourself [TS]

00:52:07 ◼   ► inside a frozen soap bubble you are [TS]

00:52:09 ◼   ► running around shooting demons very [TS]

00:52:11 ◼   ► similar is of course a first-person [TS]

00:52:13 ◼   ► shooter not the first first person [TS]

00:52:15 ◼   ► shooter but the first really good one [TS]

00:52:17 ◼   ► unfortunately it didn't really have [TS]

00:52:20 ◼   ► three dimensions you couldn't shoot up [TS]

00:52:22 ◼   ► or down there things would be positioned [TS]

00:52:25 ◼   ► above you but nothing could go directly [TS]

00:52:28 ◼   ► below or above them which meant that you [TS]

00:52:30 ◼   ► never had to look you were never able to [TS]

00:52:32 ◼   ► tilt your head which means all the time [TS]

00:52:35 ◼   ► I spent playing doom and ruined me for [TS]

00:52:36 ◼   ► every other first-person shooter [TS]

00:52:38 ◼   ► I don't blame it on doing I blame do we [TS]

00:52:41 ◼   ► played it too we can never able to play [TS]

00:52:43 ◼   ► modern ftse's i'm just going to assume [TS]

00:52:45 ◼   ► you're lying and continue on [TS]

00:52:46 ◼   ► haha but doom introduce things like [TS]

00:52:49 ◼   ► death matches and level editors so [TS]

00:52:53 ◼   ► people could create their own doom [TS]

00:52:54 ◼   ► levels and also mods which of course [TS]

00:52:57 ◼   ► took over half life two later on and [TS]

00:53:00 ◼   ► cheats i don't think that god mode God [TS]

00:53:03 ◼   ► Mode always takes after me that's a ID [TS]

00:53:05 ◼   ► SP is p 0 pd if you want god mode and do [TS]

00:53:10 ◼   ► I remember I had a really fun mod that [TS]

00:53:13 ◼   ► turned everybody into simpsons [TS]

00:53:14 ◼   ► characters and when you shot the regular [TS]

00:53:17 ◼   ► demons they look like Moe and there was [TS]

00:53:20 ◼   ► a I'm choking on my own rage here and [TS]

00:53:22 ◼   ► then died it was charming i played doom [TS]

00:53:25 ◼   ► so much that I got to the point where i [TS]

00:53:28 ◼   ► would could turn off the monitor and [TS]

00:53:29 ◼   ► still get to a level i was into pacifist [TS]

00:53:32 ◼   ► mode where you have to get to the end of [TS]

00:53:35 ◼   ► the game without killing anything which [TS]

00:53:36 ◼   ► is very difficult especially on the very [TS]

00:53:40 ◼   ► last level where you have to kill these [TS]

00:53:41 ◼   ► barrels of Hell so much them to death [TS]

00:53:44 ◼   ► it may have been the only game i had i'm [TS]

00:53:48 ◼   ► not sure why if they do so much probably [TS]

00:53:51 ◼   ► too pretty much constantly for about two [TS]

00:53:53 ◼   ► years [TS]

00:53:54 ◼   ► wow how did the rest of the world start [TS]

00:53:57 ◼   ► to just look like doom [TS]

00:53:58 ◼   ► yes but when it was looking at trinity I [TS]

00:54:01 ◼   ► remember once I was driving along the [TS]

00:54:03 ◼   ► highway and they're a bunch of those [TS]

00:54:04 ◼   ► orange barrels on the side of the road [TS]

00:54:07 ◼   ► and I automatically changed lanes the [TS]

00:54:09 ◼   ► left and I were they would explode haha [TS]

00:54:13 ◼   ► wow you had barrels not creates creates [TS]

00:54:16 ◼   ► they're like they're like creates the [TS]

00:54:18 ◼   ► crates of doom [TS]

00:54:19 ◼   ► they're very much like crepes exploding [TS]

00:54:21 ◼   ► perils key our doom [TS]

00:54:23 ◼   ► that's a classic on the list it's in the [TS]

00:54:25 ◼   ► vault but as with crates there were two [TS]

00:54:27 ◼   ► varieties there were the ones that blew [TS]

00:54:28 ◼   ► up and then there was the ones that you [TS]

00:54:30 ◼   ► couldn't destroy it about what you did [TS]

00:54:31 ◼   ► you shoot the bfg Adam and they just sit [TS]

00:54:33 ◼   ► there [TS]

00:54:34 ◼   ► strangely the indestructible barrels [TS]

00:54:35 ◼   ► were the ones that were on fire the [TS]

00:54:38 ◼   ► barrel wasn't on fire would blow up the [TS]

00:54:40 ◼   ► demons from hell were a little smarter [TS]

00:54:41 ◼   ► they just fashion a suit of armor out of [TS]

00:54:43 ◼   ► flaming barrels and you'd be [TS]

00:54:44 ◼   ► indestructible [TS]

00:54:45 ◼   ► yeah when I want to say doom does have [TS]

00:54:47 ◼   ► technically have a plot there's yeah [TS]

00:54:50 ◼   ► because you're on Mars and you're on [TS]

00:54:52 ◼   ► Mars and they they made a movie out of [TS]

00:54:54 ◼   ► it [TS]

00:54:54 ◼   ► come on everybody has been turned into [TS]

00:54:56 ◼   ► demons that movie could have been [TS]

00:55:00 ◼   ► interesting pieces it's just how ya [TS]

00:55:02 ◼   ► apple cider for our episode about doing [TS]

00:55:05 ◼   ► the movie save that for Game Show 34 [TS]

00:55:07 ◼   ► defending independent album [TS]

00:55:08 ◼   ► oh man there better not be a video game [TS]

00:55:10 ◼   ► movie draft yeah [TS]

00:55:12 ◼   ► oh my you have to get all that [TS]

00:55:15 ◼   ► don't get angry raftopoulos Tony but it [TS]