Roderick on the Line

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00:00:19 ◼   ► hello hi John hi Merlin how's it going [TS]

00:00:24 ◼   ► oh well it's a little crazy out there [TS]

00:00:27 ◼   ► actually [TS]

00:00:29 ◼   ► what's up oh I just recommend that you [TS]

00:00:31 ◼   ► not go out today I don't you should I [TS]

00:00:33 ◼   ► think you should stay stay in is [TS]

00:00:35 ◼   ► probably good advice everywhere [TS]

00:00:36 ◼   ► well yeah I mean I think I feel like a [TS]

00:00:38 ◼   ► lot of people were making left-hand [TS]

00:00:40 ◼   ► turns from the right-hand lane today if [TS]

00:00:42 ◼   ► you know what I'm saying [TS]

00:00:43 ◼   ► yeah and it just felt like boy don't [TS]

00:00:46 ◼   ► don't don't make any unnecessary trips [TS]

00:00:50 ◼   ► as the state troopers say they're never [TS]

00:00:54 ◼   ► heard that advice that's it really [TS]

00:00:56 ◼   ► wasn't on the war [TS]

00:00:57 ◼   ► no no that's very common state trooper [TS]

00:00:59 ◼   ► advice don't make any unnecessary trips [TS]

00:01:02 ◼   ► today but any of my parts that spanned [TS]

00:01:06 ◼   ► letting the guy with the broom decide [TS]

00:01:07 ◼   ► how many elephants can be in the parade [TS]

00:01:08 ◼   ► just makes his job easy [TS]

00:01:10 ◼   ► you will help me right after advise you [TS]

00:01:12 ◼   ► not to use your car's much that kind of [TS]

00:01:14 ◼   ► puts a it's a bit of a burden on us in [TS]

00:01:16 ◼   ► the law enforcement community I had I [TS]

00:01:18 ◼   ► had that exact experience one time where [TS]

00:01:20 ◼   ► the state trooper standing at a [TS]

00:01:21 ◼   ► roadblock and I drove up to it and he [TS]

00:01:25 ◼   ► said roads closed and I said really and [TS]

00:01:32 ◼   ► he said well I mean you can go if you [TS]

00:01:34 ◼   ► want what I said well alright i will he [TS]

00:01:38 ◼   ► was like so on you it's more like as [TS]

00:01:40 ◼   ► serving suggestion no I think he was [TS]

00:01:42 ◼   ► like roads closed and everybody turn [TS]

00:01:44 ◼   ► around let me lose the [TS]

00:01:46 ◼   ► passive-aggressive state trooper but [TS]

00:01:49 ◼   ► whatever but you know he was he wasn't [TS]

00:01:52 ◼   ► he didn't have a hundred percent [TS]

00:01:53 ◼   ► conviction and and I was like well fuck [TS]

00:01:56 ◼   ► it i never saw a road that was so close [TS]

00:01:58 ◼   ► that that I wouldn't take a shot at it i [TS]

00:02:01 ◼   ► think is dale carnegie said no I when it [TS]

00:02:06 ◼   ► was a hairy ride i'll tell you but it [TS]

00:02:08 ◼   ► was wasn't closed [TS]

00:02:10 ◼   ► yeah yeah yeah i think you know i'm not [TS]

00:02:14 ◼   ► i don't like to drive I don't drive if I [TS]

00:02:16 ◼   ► can avoid it but i I've always lived in [TS]

00:02:19 ◼   ► fear of that thing where the cop asks [TS]

00:02:22 ◼   ► you where you're going and with the [TS]

00:02:24 ◼   ► implicit question of like why you're [TS]

00:02:26 ◼   ► going where you're going and I really [TS]

00:02:28 ◼   ► just part of this bigger existential [TS]

00:02:29 ◼   ► anxiety for me which is I don't have [TS]

00:02:31 ◼   ► like one particularly good read [TS]

00:02:33 ◼   ► in for anything that I do and I don't [TS]

00:02:35 ◼   ► like that like being asked about that [TS]

00:02:36 ◼   ► that's easy enough people say like why [TS]

00:02:38 ◼   ► didn't you buy this phone so well first [TS]

00:02:40 ◼   ► of all who cares and second of all [TS]

00:02:41 ◼   ► that's a weird question but I'm gonna [TS]

00:02:43 ◼   ► keep asking why you're going we're going [TS]

00:02:44 ◼   ► that that's like a crisis of confidence [TS]

00:02:46 ◼   ► and out for me because I'm like do I [TS]

00:02:48 ◼   ► really need to be doing this should be [TS]

00:02:49 ◼   ► doing this is a man I don't you know [TS]

00:02:52 ◼   ► what I thought I knew what I was doing [TS]

00:02:53 ◼   ► this and now i feel kind of bad that I'm [TS]

00:02:55 ◼   ► even here in wasting your time right [TS]

00:02:57 ◼   ► apart why am I doing this I'm doing this [TS]

00:03:00 ◼   ► what I'm going to go to go visit my [TS]

00:03:01 ◼   ► family do I want to do that no i'm not [TS]

00:03:03 ◼   ► completely I mean why am i doing that [TS]

00:03:05 ◼   ► I'm doing out of the familial obligation [TS]

00:03:07 ◼   ► like what way you are you here [TS]

00:03:09 ◼   ► yeah yeah yeah well see that's exactly [TS]

00:03:11 ◼   ► my answer that question mean when [TS]

00:03:13 ◼   ► somebody says haha [TS]

00:03:14 ◼   ► where you going why are you going there [TS]

00:03:16 ◼   ► I always say why do any of us do [TS]

00:03:18 ◼   ► anything right in the version of that [TS]

00:03:21 ◼   ► same thing except its subjects said from [TS]

00:03:24 ◼   ► a process first set from a position of [TS]

00:03:26 ◼   ► like why are you doing what you're doing [TS]

00:03:28 ◼   ► Oh glad that's just having a cop than [TS]

00:03:30 ◼   ► one here oh no no but you know but that [TS]

00:03:33 ◼   ► that's a potential it's a potential [TS]

00:03:35 ◼   ► moment for you guys to really bond over [TS]

00:03:36 ◼   ► the fact that are you know what what why [TS]

00:03:39 ◼   ► do any of us do anything I it seems like [TS]

00:03:42 ◼   ► one of those questions when they give [TS]

00:03:45 ◼   ► you a polygraph test before they get to [TS]

00:03:47 ◼   ► the like [TS]

00:03:48 ◼   ► did you kill Nicole Brown Simpson [TS]

00:03:49 ◼   ► questions they have to ask you you know [TS]

00:03:51 ◼   ► it was your name [TS]

00:03:52 ◼   ► you know right ornithology james simpson [TS]

00:03:54 ◼   ► like that you've got to ask the like [TS]

00:03:56 ◼   ► baseline questions and see how you [TS]

00:03:58 ◼   ► reacted those before they can look for [TS]

00:03:59 ◼   ► the spikes by the way he got a negative [TS]

00:04:00 ◼   ► 24 on that was very upsetting to john [TS]

00:04:02 ◼   ► travolta in the movie but you know what [TS]

00:04:06 ◼   ► i mean and so like I think when there's [TS]

00:04:07 ◼   ► a lot of things were like you ask [TS]

00:04:09 ◼   ► somebody a question not to get an answer [TS]

00:04:10 ◼   ► but to see how they react to the [TS]

00:04:11 ◼   ► question mm and I think that's what a [TS]

00:04:13 ◼   ► cop is doing I think they're trained to [TS]

00:04:14 ◼   ► do that they don't actually care while [TS]

00:04:16 ◼   ► you're driving but they want to see if [TS]

00:04:17 ◼   ► you're up to some monkey business [TS]

00:04:19 ◼   ► yeah well I remember getting pulled over [TS]

00:04:21 ◼   ► by cop one night and I had a guy in the [TS]

00:04:23 ◼   ► back of the car who was a former Army [TS]

00:04:26 ◼   ► veteran fought in the old fun in the [TS]

00:04:29 ◼   ► famous Panama war she recalled the the [TS]

00:04:34 ◼   ► noriega the noriega war where they were [TS]

00:04:36 ◼   ► they parked out in front of the music [TS]

00:04:38 ◼   ► remember simply the heavy metal music he [TS]

00:04:40 ◼   ► fought in that war and it would but it [TS]

00:04:42 ◼   ► was a genuine war army people shot at [TS]

00:04:44 ◼   ► other people and and succeeded in there [TS]

00:04:46 ◼   ► mission of shooting other people and so [TS]

00:04:50 ◼   ► he was a really big guy in an army guy [TS]

00:04:53 ◼   ► and that was before we had the term for [TS]

00:04:57 ◼   ► this kind of libertarian [TS]

00:05:00 ◼   ► anti-authoritarian take over a Wildlife [TS]

00:05:03 ◼   ► Refuge style anti-government person but [TS]

00:05:07 ◼   ► he was certainly anti-authoritarian and [TS]

00:05:11 ◼   ► so I got pulled over this cop foregoing [TS]

00:05:13 ◼   ► 15-30 or something like and he [TS]

00:05:16 ◼   ► immediately gets you can just hear him [TS]

00:05:17 ◼   ► behind me just in this body limp body [TS]

00:05:19 ◼   ► English of like all right I'm not taking [TS]

00:05:22 ◼   ► you no we're not taking any shit off of [TS]

00:05:24 ◼   ► this and it wasn't that he wasn't going [TS]

00:05:25 ◼   ► to take any shit it was that he was [TS]

00:05:27 ◼   ► communicating to the car that we weren't [TS]

00:05:29 ◼   ► going to take it well in the larger way [TS]

00:05:31 ◼   ► that no shit would be takin no shit is [TS]

00:05:33 ◼   ► going to be taken here this cop you know [TS]

00:05:35 ◼   ► barely has the authority to pull the [TS]

00:05:37 ◼   ► soap and so the cop walks up and he's [TS]

00:05:40 ◼   ► like I said it's in the middle of the [TS]

00:05:43 ◼   ► night you know it's like one of those [TS]

00:05:44 ◼   ► it's a little bit fraught already the [TS]

00:05:46 ◼   ► complex up and i'm sure he sees the [TS]

00:05:48 ◼   ► six-foot-five bald army guy staring [TS]

00:05:51 ◼   ► straight ahead with his jaw clenched in [TS]

00:05:53 ◼   ► the backseat I'm sure he sees him before [TS]

00:05:55 ◼   ► he even sees me and he comes up to me [TS]

00:05:58 ◼   ► and he's like Sir do you know why I [TS]

00:05:59 ◼   ► pulled you over and I was like yeah I [TS]

00:06:02 ◼   ► was going 15 to 30 and the guy behind me [TS]

00:06:05 ◼   ► loses his mind you can hear Mike switch [TS]

00:06:07 ◼   ► like you give too much away like what do [TS]

00:06:11 ◼   ► you doing [TS]

00:06:13 ◼   ► name rank and serial number and the cop [TS]

00:06:16 ◼   ► was like yeah that's right and I was [TS]

00:06:17 ◼   ► like yeah sorry i was there nobody on [TS]

00:06:19 ◼   ► the road and I was just driving [TS]

00:06:21 ◼   ► I mean it's not like i was going 15 to [TS]

00:06:24 ◼   ► 30 and they were like school buses on [TS]

00:06:26 ◼   ► the street it's two in the morning and [TS]

00:06:28 ◼   ► the cop said alright sir house you know [TS]

00:06:31 ◼   ► give me your license registration and [TS]

00:06:32 ◼   ► you know sit tight and goes back to his [TS]

00:06:35 ◼   ► car and I the my buddy just give me the [TS]

00:06:39 ◼   ► Baltimore dressing-down what the fuck [TS]

00:06:41 ◼   ► are you doing man [TS]

00:06:43 ◼   ► she's just what about however right and [TS]

00:06:49 ◼   ► you know five minutes later the cop [TS]

00:06:50 ◼   ► comes back and he's like alright will [TS]

00:06:51 ◼   ► slow down out there has been my license [TS]

00:06:54 ◼   ► and registration I'm like yeah see the [TS]

00:06:57 ◼   ► cub you know he's not an ass [TS]

00:06:59 ◼   ► he's not an idiot yeah there's nobody [TS]

00:07:01 ◼   ► else on the highway you just be just be [TS]

00:07:03 ◼   ► a problem with people i get off at [TS]

00:07:09 ◼   ► tickets all the time and it's largely [TS]

00:07:10 ◼   ► white privilege oh no that's a big part [TS]

00:07:12 ◼   ► i just--there's a thing there's a thing [TS]

00:07:14 ◼   ► like cops to a really hard job and it's [TS]

00:07:16 ◼   ► really hard with the hottest hard [TS]

00:07:17 ◼   ► difficult and dangerous work but but [TS]

00:07:19 ◼   ► it's just it's so no matter how old I [TS]

00:07:23 ◼   ► get I still think it's weird that [TS]

00:07:24 ◼   ► anybody wants to be a cop and I'm still [TS]

00:07:26 ◼   ► suspicious of anybody who wants to be a [TS]

00:07:27 ◼   ► cop and I know that's wrong i know i'm [TS]

00:07:30 ◼   ► sorry i'm certain that there are people [TS]

00:07:31 ◼   ► who are genuine sociopathic bullies who [TS]

00:07:34 ◼   ► specifically with a Napoleon complex who [TS]

00:07:36 ◼   ► in particular become cops just so they [TS]

00:07:38 ◼   ► can be bossy [TS]

00:07:39 ◼   ► I don't doubt that for a second but [TS]

00:07:40 ◼   ► there are a lot of good people but the [TS]

00:07:42 ◼   ► job is so weird I mean the actual job [TS]

00:07:45 ◼   ► you think about the job I think about in [TS]

00:07:46 ◼   ► your case like if somebody you're in a [TS]

00:07:48 ◼   ► position where somebody says to you hey [TS]

00:07:50 ◼   ► John like i'll give you like fifty [TS]

00:07:53 ◼   ► dollars to come to Boston for an hour [TS]

00:07:56 ◼   ► and you're in a position to go like oh [TS]

00:07:57 ◼   ► you know that's not really a good deal [TS]

00:07:58 ◼   ► for me and like I wouldn't want to do [TS]

00:08:00 ◼   ► that whereas somebody else's I'm gonna [TS]

00:08:02 ◼   ► get $50,000 to like do something in your [TS]

00:08:04 ◼   ► own backyard you say yeah they'll do [TS]

00:08:05 ◼   ► that could you can weigh like what [TS]

00:08:07 ◼   ► that's a good use of your time [TS]

00:08:09 ◼   ► happens to me all the time all the time [TS]

00:08:10 ◼   ► both directions you're constantly [TS]

00:08:11 ◼   ► fielding offers but when you're a cop [TS]

00:08:13 ◼   ► it just seems like there's so much stuff [TS]

00:08:15 ◼   ► that basically just comes down to time [TS]

00:08:18 ◼   ► and paperwork and in that case like why [TS]

00:08:20 ◼   ► he did he really pull you over like was [TS]

00:08:23 ◼   ► did he pull that any people do over you [TS]

00:08:26 ◼   ► follow i'm going with this one yeah what [TS]

00:08:28 ◼   ► a weird job to have to pull somebody [TS]

00:08:30 ◼   ► over check their information and not [TS]

00:08:33 ◼   ► give a ticket like okay so was he just [TS]

00:08:36 ◼   ► looking for was he working off the books [TS]

00:08:37 ◼   ► for people who like were had drugs in [TS]

00:08:40 ◼   ► their car or something was that part of [TS]

00:08:41 ◼   ► his assignment was this assignment to [TS]

00:08:43 ◼   ► get more tickets like what was his job [TS]

00:08:45 ◼   ► what what part of his job was he doing [TS]

00:08:47 ◼   ► when he pulled you over Andy succeed at [TS]

00:08:49 ◼   ► it [TS]

00:08:49 ◼   ► yeah and I don't know I can't answer [TS]

00:08:51 ◼   ► that question without without rolling [TS]

00:08:53 ◼   ► through this whole array of motivations [TS]

00:08:55 ◼   ► for why you would be a cop in the first [TS]

00:08:57 ◼   ► place and what their actual role is in [TS]

00:08:59 ◼   ► society because I i honestly can't tell [TS]

00:09:01 ◼   ► you but your five different peoples [TS]

00:09:02 ◼   ► fight for reasons why they want to pull [TS]

00:09:03 ◼   ► somebody over because it is based on [TS]

00:09:05 ◼   ► their intuition right oh well where's [TS]

00:09:08 ◼   ► the gun [TS]

00:09:09 ◼   ► yeah speaking I mean you know he's on [TS]

00:09:11 ◼   ► he's on speed trap duty or whatever [TS]

00:09:13 ◼   ► I think it's also two o'clock in the [TS]

00:09:14 ◼   ► morning he's driving around he's that's [TS]

00:09:16 ◼   ► his job to be out and so he's looking [TS]

00:09:19 ◼   ► around and I think the best cops [TS]

00:09:21 ◼   ► understand that they are agents of the [TS]

00:09:25 ◼   ► state and that we all agree on laws and [TS]

00:09:29 ◼   ► that those laws need to be enforced and [TS]

00:09:31 ◼   ► the state and forces them for a variety [TS]

00:09:32 ◼   ► of reasons and the way they do that is [TS]

00:09:34 ◼   ► through the police and so the worst cops [TS]

00:09:37 ◼   ► think that they are personally charged [TS]

00:09:40 ◼   ► with a with a personal authority to be [TS]

00:09:43 ◼   ► out there busting bad guys like those [TS]

00:09:46 ◼   ► that's just the wrong motivation almost [TS]

00:09:48 ◼   ► like a crusader [TS]

00:09:49 ◼   ► yeah right i mean the guys that think [TS]

00:09:51 ◼   ► that they have some superior ability to [TS]

00:09:53 ◼   ► handle situations and get in there and [TS]

00:09:57 ◼   ► you know deal with people deal with you [TS]

00:10:00 ◼   ► know the bad guys like those guys should [TS]

00:10:04 ◼   ► I don't know what they should do they [TS]

00:10:05 ◼   ► should become trainers you know but but [TS]

00:10:09 ◼   ► the best cops understand that like we [TS]

00:10:11 ◼   ► need police because the state makes laws [TS]

00:10:14 ◼   ► the benefit of us all and then we have [TS]

00:10:17 ◼   ► to enforce those laws because a lot of [TS]

00:10:18 ◼   ► people are gonna you know a lot of [TS]

00:10:20 ◼   ► people are going to say that doesn't [TS]

00:10:21 ◼   ► apply to me [TS]

00:10:22 ◼   ► myself included and so yeah the cops are [TS]

00:10:26 ◼   ► out there they're like okay I'm i pulled [TS]

00:10:28 ◼   ► the i pulled the one am 28 a.m. shift [TS]

00:10:31 ◼   ► and i'm out here enforcing the laws and [TS]

00:10:33 ◼   ► if I see a guy driving 15-30 whose cars [TS]

00:10:38 ◼   ► on fire and he's on top of it wearing a [TS]

00:10:40 ◼   ► toga and waving a scimitars I'm [TS]

00:10:42 ◼   ► definitely pulling him over [TS]

00:10:44 ◼   ► uh-huh because he is gonna be something [TS]

00:10:46 ◼   ► going on he appears to be a danger to [TS]

00:10:48 ◼   ► everyone [TS]

00:10:49 ◼   ► well you know also just basics weather [TS]

00:10:51 ◼   ► since you know smoke there's fire or [TS]

00:10:53 ◼   ► better still where there's fire there's [TS]

00:10:54 ◼   ► a car on fire and that's probably why [TS]

00:10:56 ◼   ► she got the road [TS]

00:10:57 ◼   ► that's exactly right but you getting to [TS]

00:10:58 ◼   ► the seminar he's driving along and he [TS]

00:11:01 ◼   ► sees a guy he's a car full of guys uh [TS]

00:11:04 ◼   ► who look like a former Army Rangers and [TS]

00:11:09 ◼   ► they're going too fast and that's really [TS]

00:11:12 ◼   ► the only thing that's going on right now [TS]

00:11:14 ◼   ► he's looking around he wishes it a space [TS]

00:11:17 ◼   ► alien would come down and give him [TS]

00:11:18 ◼   ► something exciting to do but that's the [TS]

00:11:21 ◼   ► only thing that's going on and so he's [TS]

00:11:22 ◼   ► like all right I'm gonna pull these guys [TS]

00:11:23 ◼   ► over and he checks your idea [TS]

00:11:27 ◼   ► he puts it into the computer is like all [TS]

00:11:28 ◼   ► right nobody and I think he took [TS]

00:11:30 ◼   ► everybody's idea for a cliq if i [TS]

00:11:32 ◼   ► remember correctly ok I you know and and [TS]

00:11:36 ◼   ► everybody was fine and it was like this [TS]

00:11:38 ◼   ► is fine this is just a normal situation [TS]

00:11:41 ◼   ► and that's why I say yeah I was speeding [TS]

00:11:43 ◼   ► I I honestly I and I mean I'm not [TS]

00:11:48 ◼   ► flipping him attitude like seriously [TS]

00:11:50 ◼   ► dude it's just like yeah I understand [TS]

00:11:53 ◼   ► why you pulled me over but also do you [TS]

00:11:54 ◼   ► understand why I'm going 15 to 30 and he [TS]

00:11:57 ◼   ► does and so everything so he Percy sees [TS]

00:12:01 ◼   ► himself and his job correctly which is [TS]

00:12:03 ◼   ► like I'm out here because people want me [TS]

00:12:05 ◼   ► out here and when I encounter a [TS]

00:12:09 ◼   ► situation i can use my good judgment and [TS]

00:12:11 ◼   ► say move along who um it's just it's [TS]

00:12:16 ◼   ► just those bad cops that and anything is [TS]

00:12:18 ◼   ► a lot of the bad cops are always the [TS]

00:12:20 ◼   ► ones that don't see themselves as bad [TS]

00:12:22 ◼   ► because they're the ones out there [TS]

00:12:24 ◼   ► breaking knees and chasing bad chasing [TS]

00:12:27 ◼   ► guys in hoodies and making the world [TS]

00:12:30 ◼   ► safe you know and that's just it seems [TS]

00:12:33 ◼   ► that's that seems like a stereotype that [TS]

00:12:34 ◼   ► must have its factual you know examples [TS]

00:12:39 ◼   ► in life even I mean as much as that [TS]

00:12:41 ◼   ► stereotype that must happen i'm talking [TS]

00:12:43 ◼   ► about like in his case like in and this [TS]

00:12:45 ◼   ► is why I struggle to understand like [TS]

00:12:47 ◼   ► what it's like to be a you-know-what ago [TS]

00:12:50 ◼   ► you would not a beat cop but like you [TS]

00:12:51 ◼   ► know a lower-level police officer not a [TS]

00:12:53 ◼   ► detective not somebody's charged was [TS]

00:12:55 ◼   ► saying look we need you to use your [TS]

00:12:57 ◼   ► intuition and to use these various kinds [TS]

00:13:00 ◼   ► of you know known data to make decisions [TS]

00:13:02 ◼   ► about how to proceed with this right [TS]

00:13:03 ◼   ► you're more of a knowledge what kind of [TS]

00:13:05 ◼   ► job which I'm not saying it's not again [TS]

00:13:07 ◼   ► on this thing it's not difficult i'm not [TS]

00:13:08 ◼   ► saying it's not you don't be smart to do [TS]

00:13:09 ◼   ► it but in that case it's you know it's [TS]

00:13:12 ◼   ► it's almost like it almost makes more [TS]

00:13:13 ◼   ► sense when you go well you need to make [TS]

00:13:16 ◼   ► two thousand dollars in traffic stop in [TS]

00:13:19 ◼   ► in traffic fines tonight you know what I [TS]

00:13:21 ◼   ► mean you know or think about the job [TS]

00:13:23 ◼   ► somebody who's what we used to call a [TS]

00:13:24 ◼   ► meter maid it's their job to go like [TS]

00:13:26 ◼   ► make money for the government by giving [TS]

00:13:27 ◼   ► people tickets and guys partly about the [TS]

00:13:30 ◼   ► local merchants you know having a way to [TS]

00:13:31 ◼   ► keep parking spaces open but that's that [TS]

00:13:34 ◼   ► almost that kind of Sheriff of [TS]

00:13:36 ◼   ► Nottingham approach almost makes more [TS]

00:13:37 ◼   ► sense like we want we're gonna bust you [TS]

00:13:40 ◼   ► missed you at the border with drugs [TS]

00:13:41 ◼   ► because we want your speed boat like [TS]

00:13:43 ◼   ► that stuff in a medieval way makes more [TS]

00:13:45 ◼   ► sense in that case that guy could let [TS]

00:13:47 ◼   ► you go by and it would be just less [TS]

00:13:48 ◼   ► chance of danger in his life and less [TS]

00:13:50 ◼   ► potential paperwork true and that's a [TS]

00:13:52 ◼   ► different kind of bad cop you know [TS]

00:13:54 ◼   ► that's the cliché of the [TS]

00:13:56 ◼   ► doughnut-eating cop sitting in his car [TS]

00:13:58 ◼   ► parked in front of a donut shop right [TS]

00:14:01 ◼   ► the guy who sees a car speeding but he's [TS]

00:14:03 ◼   ► like yeah there's no evidence that he [TS]

00:14:06 ◼   ► didn't there's no evidence of his [TS]

00:14:07 ◼   ► nonfeasance exactly so he's just like [TS]

00:14:10 ◼   ► you know people are people or bad it's [TS]

00:14:12 ◼   ► too much trouble right now to go chase [TS]

00:14:14 ◼   ► that guy he's making a decision on his [TS]

00:14:16 ◼   ► own behalf to a which is just to you [TS]

00:14:21 ◼   ► know get paid to do nothing and that's a [TS]

00:14:23 ◼   ► different kind of bad cop and then the [TS]

00:14:25 ◼   ► meter maid I think it's just a job to [TS]

00:14:28 ◼   ► those people you know like that's just [TS]

00:14:29 ◼   ► they could be sitting they can be [TS]

00:14:32 ◼   ► sitting at a desk at the DMV making the [TS]

00:14:34 ◼   ► making life hard for people or they [TS]

00:14:36 ◼   ► could be out you know they're that those [TS]

00:14:38 ◼   ► are just jobs it is and it's I I feel [TS]

00:14:41 ◼   ► really I feel really bad for those [TS]

00:14:43 ◼   ► people that they are just you know they [TS]

00:14:46 ◼   ► got they got a civil service job gotta [TS]

00:14:48 ◼   ► go and do but you know but then on the [TS]

00:14:50 ◼   ► other hand when you get a ticket you [TS]

00:14:51 ◼   ► didn't really deserved you're like all [TS]

00:14:52 ◼   ► of a sudden now the world's all [TS]

00:14:53 ◼   ► different [TS]

00:14:54 ◼   ► yeah you got a ticket when everyone's [TS]

00:14:56 ◼   ► while you meet a meter maid who is like [TS]

00:14:59 ◼   ► inhumanly gratified oh it's and that's [TS]

00:15:03 ◼   ► why the DMV example is interesting it [TS]

00:15:05 ◼   ► you know it again we're getting very [TS]

00:15:06 ◼   ► much indeed like certain kind of [TS]

00:15:08 ◼   ► middle-class stereotype but there is [TS]

00:15:10 ◼   ► that stereotype of somebody who's like [TS]

00:15:12 ◼   ► ready for you to treat them badly and [TS]

00:15:14 ◼   ► who's like preemptively you know doing [TS]

00:15:17 ◼   ► that stuff I got no beef you know we [TS]

00:15:20 ◼   ► have a police station very near where I [TS]

00:15:21 ◼   ► live and so we interact with cops logic [TS]

00:15:24 ◼   ► cesium you know walk around going to the [TS]

00:15:26 ◼   ► car and it is it strange that because [TS]

00:15:28 ◼   ► there's they the the place near where I [TS]

00:15:31 ◼   ► live the cops end up covering something [TS]

00:15:32 ◼   ► like about a quarter or fifth of the [TS]

00:15:35 ◼   ► city so they have to fan out over a very [TS]

00:15:37 ◼   ► large area of western San Francisco [TS]

00:15:39 ◼   ► yeah and it's just it's always weird to [TS]

00:15:41 ◼   ► read something in the paper about like [TS]

00:15:42 ◼   ► something that happened at not just our [TS]

00:15:45 ◼   ► local police place but a place it's [TS]

00:15:46 ◼   ► fairly near our house [TS]

00:15:47 ◼   ► yeah it's a rare thing it's a weird [TS]

00:15:48 ◼   ► thing to too because then you like [TS]

00:15:50 ◼   ► that's so strange i can never think I [TS]

00:15:52 ◼   ► don't [TS]

00:15:52 ◼   ► I just think about those people as [TS]

00:15:54 ◼   ► people going to work sometimes we hear [TS]

00:15:55 ◼   ► sirens [TS]

00:15:56 ◼   ► that's the way we are fortunate to feel [TS]

00:15:57 ◼   ► very safe where we live there's cops [TS]

00:15:59 ◼   ► walking her house all day long but but [TS]

00:16:03 ◼   ► at the same time like its it is strange [TS]

00:16:04 ◼   ► when you go like that's weird i don't [TS]

00:16:06 ◼   ► tend to think of them as stereotypical [TS]

00:16:07 ◼   ► like you know cops but that's you know [TS]

00:16:10 ◼   ► for sure because that guy is taking it [TS]

00:16:13 ◼   ► taking that risk he pulls over that car [TS]

00:16:14 ◼   ► full of four guys and they are white [TS]

00:16:16 ◼   ► supremacists and their cars are full of [TS]

00:16:18 ◼   ► guns and they're on their way to you [TS]

00:16:19 ◼   ► know to blow up a synagogue and there's [TS]

00:16:22 ◼   ► a shootout in this this poor copies in [TS]

00:16:24 ◼   ► the you know is in the firing zone well [TS]

00:16:29 ◼   ► it's also it's also the this don't you [TS]

00:16:33 ◼   ► call this but you know it's also like [TS]

00:16:34 ◼   ► they're there is something that there [TS]

00:16:36 ◼   ► might be something that cop could act on [TS]

00:16:39 ◼   ► let's put it this way the person driving [TS]

00:16:40 ◼   ► that car are riding in that car knows [TS]

00:16:43 ◼   ► there's something that cop could act on [TS]

00:16:44 ◼   ► now that could be a like a small bit of [TS]

00:16:48 ◼   ► weed in your pocket [TS]

00:16:49 ◼   ► mmm it could be now not worth killing a [TS]

00:16:51 ◼   ► cop over let me tell you what we have [TS]

00:16:53 ◼   ► but if you look at out there everybody [TS]

00:16:54 ◼   ► on saying this is just how this how you [TS]

00:16:56 ◼   ► getting these Fargo type situations is [TS]

00:16:58 ◼   ► where you know there's one that one that [TS]

00:17:00 ◼   ► may be one person the car's got we maybe [TS]

00:17:01 ◼   ► nobody else knows that they have weed or [TS]

00:17:03 ◼   ► whatever whatever insert a random drug [TS]

00:17:05 ◼   ► and it could be that somebody's heart [TS]

00:17:08 ◼   ► remembers there's a warrant outstanding [TS]

00:17:10 ◼   ► warrant on them and you know what I mean [TS]

00:17:12 ◼   ► there's that kind of stuff we're like [TS]

00:17:13 ◼   ► they're these landmines waiting to have [TS]

00:17:16 ◼   ► more nothing really happened that needed [TS]

00:17:18 ◼   ► to be acted upon accept it as much as [TS]

00:17:20 ◼   ► their this is part of law enforcement is [TS]

00:17:22 ◼   ► doing that due diligence to you know [TS]

00:17:24 ◼   ► Sadie's are drugs in here anything going [TS]

00:17:26 ◼   ► to stab me you know we try to outrun you [TS]

00:17:29 ◼   ► know so in that case like if our copy [TS]

00:17:31 ◼   ► and I and I wouldn't be but like I would [TS]

00:17:33 ◼   ► be real circumspect about deciding your [TS]

00:17:35 ◼   ► end up watching fargo and i love the [TS]

00:17:37 ◼   ► fact that that in this conversation you [TS]

00:17:39 ◼   ► are going into your scott simpson [TS]

00:17:40 ◼   ► register periodically did I ever tell [TS]

00:17:43 ◼   ► you about that uh I've never watched the [TS]

00:17:46 ◼   ► television show Fargo alright okay I've [TS]

00:17:48 ◼   ► consumed the movie Fargo yeah the in the [TS]

00:17:50 ◼   ► second season of that there's there's [TS]

00:17:51 ◼   ► there's several very tense things [TS]

00:17:54 ◼   ► involving like one cop and a lot of bad [TS]

00:17:57 ◼   ► guys and where you've got to just keep [TS]

00:17:58 ◼   ► the surface tension from breaking well [TS]

00:18:00 ◼   ► and this is the thing i think it is the [TS]

00:18:02 ◼   ► insight into the DMV question and the [TS]

00:18:04 ◼   ► cop question which [TS]

00:18:06 ◼   ► is that think of ninety percent of jobs [TS]

00:18:09 ◼   ► you are dealing with a select group of [TS]

00:18:14 ◼   ► people in the course of your day right [TS]

00:18:16 ◼   ► if you work at an insurance agency you [TS]

00:18:18 ◼   ► are dealing only with people who are [TS]

00:18:20 ◼   ► seeking insurance and people who are in [TS]

00:18:25 ◼   ► the insurance trade and if you are you [TS]

00:18:28 ◼   ► know designing software even if you're [TS]

00:18:30 ◼   ► talking on the phone to customer service [TS]

00:18:32 ◼   ► people you are dealing with people who [TS]

00:18:34 ◼   ► are using your selected product but cops [TS]

00:18:39 ◼   ► and DMV people are there among the only [TS]

00:18:43 ◼   ► people who deal with everybody and that [TS]

00:18:47 ◼   ► you know they pull over big [TS]

00:18:48 ◼   ► mercedes-benz's and they pull over cars [TS]

00:18:52 ◼   ► that shouldn't be on the road and they [TS]

00:18:54 ◼   ► pull over people who are like him a [TS]

00:18:56 ◼   ► demographic demographically people who [TS]

00:18:58 ◼   ► are insane people who are not insane [TS]

00:19:02 ◼   ► people who are entitled people who are [TS]

00:19:05 ◼   ► not entitled you know they pull over [TS]

00:19:06 ◼   ► they talked to everyone and the DMV is [TS]

00:19:09 ◼   ► very close to that to like everybody in [TS]

00:19:11 ◼   ► our world gets the driver's license [TS]

00:19:13 ◼   ► that's like that that's like the first [TS]

00:19:16 ◼   ► thing you are allowed to do is hurdle [TS]

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00:21:21 ◼   ► and so so this tidal wave of everybody [TS]

00:21:27 ◼   ► comes at you and I think in those [TS]

00:21:29 ◼   ► positions and this is the thing week you [TS]

00:21:32 ◼   ► know we walk up to that counter and were [TS]

00:21:33 ◼   ► like hey I'm a normal person and I'm [TS]

00:21:36 ◼   ► just having a day and hello and the [TS]

00:21:39 ◼   ► personal encounters like name ID her [TS]

00:21:43 ◼   ► card because they've already dealt with [TS]

00:21:47 ◼   ► with such a wide scrum of people and I [TS]

00:21:53 ◼   ► guess I i guess my experience out in the [TS]

00:21:56 ◼   ► world is that there are so many people [TS]

00:21:58 ◼   ► who are difficult to deal with for a [TS]

00:22:01 ◼   ► variety of reasons difficulty with [TS]

00:22:03 ◼   ► helping me in that what i like about [TS]

00:22:05 ◼   ► your use of the word difficult there is [TS]

00:22:07 ◼   ► it's not necessary that they're nasty [TS]

00:22:09 ◼   ► it's not necessarily that they're [TS]

00:22:10 ◼   ► hostile or it could just be that they're [TS]

00:22:13 ◼   ► difficult to deal with because they [TS]

00:22:15 ◼   ► don't know how to do what they're doing [TS]

00:22:16 ◼   ► right now they don't know how to be at [TS]

00:22:17 ◼   ► the DMV exactly what I mean they don't [TS]

00:22:20 ◼   ► they don't understand maybe they could [TS]

00:22:21 ◼   ► be language thing right it could be a [TS]

00:22:23 ◼   ► financial thing like no sir I can't run [TS]

00:22:24 ◼   ► this on three different cards there's [TS]

00:22:25 ◼   ► all kinds of reasons didn't lot of [TS]

00:22:27 ◼   ► people wouldn't think about about why [TS]

00:22:29 ◼   ► this seemingly simple transaction can be [TS]

00:22:30 ◼   ► confusing and you get you get them [TS]

00:22:32 ◼   ► everyday it [TS]

00:22:32 ◼   ► you know you know i said before my [TS]

00:22:34 ◼   ► health job my whole job is to be the [TS]

00:22:36 ◼   ► person in the TSA line who has to ask [TS]

00:22:38 ◼   ► you to take the water out of your bag [TS]

00:22:39 ◼   ► because you have to do that you have to [TS]

00:22:41 ◼   ► ask people but no matter how many times [TS]

00:22:43 ◼   ► you tell them i think still about 1 out [TS]

00:22:45 ◼   ► of 10 people of water in the bag I've [TS]

00:22:47 ◼   ► done it I sit [TS]

00:22:48 ◼   ► it's always the person right in front of [TS]

00:22:49 ◼   ► me you know the person that is that in [TS]

00:22:51 ◼   ► its I'm sure everybody feels this way [TS]

00:22:53 ◼   ► it's the person who appears to never [TS]

00:22:55 ◼   ► have been an airport before this the [TS]

00:22:56 ◼   ► first plane they've ever been on they go [TS]

00:22:58 ◼   ► up to the security thing and go back to [TS]

00:23:00 ◼   ► the back to their general arms they [TS]

00:23:03 ◼   ► don't know what kind of stuff that's off [TS]

00:23:05 ◼   ► the alarm they don't know how to ask the [TS]

00:23:06 ◼   ► questions they're only open though [TS]

00:23:08 ◼   ► there's a tsa guys who's been standing [TS]

00:23:10 ◼   ► there saying the same thing 40 times an [TS]

00:23:12 ◼   ► hour i think your bags out of your blab [TS]

00:23:14 ◼   ► put your barbarian popular saving having [TS]

00:23:17 ◼   ► a half but he's easy he's seen it all [TS]

00:23:19 ◼   ► and like no matter he or she and no [TS]

00:23:22 ◼   ► matter how often they tell you the signs [TS]

00:23:24 ◼   ► are there everybody knows this stuff [TS]

00:23:26 ◼   ► should know this stuff at this point [TS]

00:23:27 ◼   ► he's traveling but it's a hell job [TS]

00:23:29 ◼   ► because there's still no it's the [TS]

00:23:31 ◼   ► ultimate Sisyphean job and in some ways [TS]

00:23:33 ◼   ► that's a little bit with the DMV would [TS]

00:23:35 ◼   ► have to be like nobody's happy to be [TS]

00:23:36 ◼   ► there except that you know that's the [TS]

00:23:38 ◼   ► incredible thing just I mean the airport [TS]

00:23:40 ◼   ► is one of those one of those experiences [TS]

00:23:43 ◼   ► that we all share where it's like oh my [TS]

00:23:44 ◼   ► god I'm in the mass of humanity here and [TS]

00:23:47 ◼   ► the TSA is the choke point where you [TS]

00:23:52 ◼   ► know the faster people cannot get [TS]

00:23:54 ◼   ► through a system faster the competent [TS]

00:23:56 ◼   ► people cannot get through more [TS]

00:23:57 ◼   ► confidently and yet that is even a [TS]

00:24:01 ◼   ► select group of people that have a [TS]

00:24:03 ◼   ► reason to fly on a plane you know [TS]

00:24:06 ◼   ► there's a built-in you-know-who not [TS]

00:24:09 ◼   ► quite a bias but people who have [TS]

00:24:10 ◼   ► traveled a lot are necessarily people [TS]

00:24:12 ◼   ► who can afford to travel a lot right [TS]

00:24:14 ◼   ► when what what is the percentage of I [TS]

00:24:15 ◼   ► mean I met so many people in the world [TS]

00:24:17 ◼   ► who have never been 15 miles from the [TS]

00:24:20 ◼   ► village they were born it let alone ever [TS]

00:24:24 ◼   ► do you know what I mean they've never [TS]

00:24:25 ◼   ► been here let alone having a first-hand [TS]

00:24:27 ◼   ► impression about a certain terminal at [TS]

00:24:30 ◼   ► LAX and how it's changed over 20 years [TS]

00:24:32 ◼   ► think about that for a minute yeah my [TS]

00:24:35 ◼   ► things are going to bad in your life if [TS]

00:24:37 ◼   ► you can be angry about a terminal [TS]

00:24:38 ◼   ► connector what the hell they change the [TS]

00:24:40 ◼   ► carpet God you know they change the [TS]

00:24:42 ◼   ► carpet in the Portland area really gross [TS]

00:24:44 ◼   ► there though [TS]

00:24:44 ◼   ► well of the LAX [TS]

00:24:46 ◼   ► come on they could do a better job but [TS]

00:24:47 ◼   ► like Portland Airport change their [TS]

00:24:49 ◼   ► carpet within the last year and I heard [TS]

00:24:52 ◼   ► by heard about it more than i'm sure [TS]

00:24:55 ◼   ► people heard about the moon landing [TS]

00:24:57 ◼   ► what happened you know just people like [TS]

00:24:59 ◼   ► oh my god how are we supposed to deal [TS]

00:25:01 ◼   ► with this carpet that something so this [TS]

00:25:04 ◼   ► is really ugly carpet everybody always [TS]

00:25:06 ◼   ► hated until they decided it was cool [TS]

00:25:08 ◼   ► yeah i'm going to say you know till it [TS]

00:25:10 ◼   ► since it is it's it's yeah thats people [TS]

00:25:13 ◼   ► are funny like that we we need things to [TS]

00:25:15 ◼   ► be the melancholy about you know I just [TS]

00:25:17 ◼   ► took a couple of airplane just recently [TS]

00:25:19 ◼   ► did they know I took them yeah I've got [TS]

00:25:22 ◼   ► them now they're i'm not giving them [TS]

00:25:25 ◼   ► back for me they had three the whip but [TS]

00:25:28 ◼   ► but you know what time to argue [TS]

00:25:30 ◼   ► what did I tell you that I was that i [TS]

00:25:32 ◼   ► received silver medallions tanks [TS]

00:25:35 ◼   ► well wow how was the ceremony was a [TS]

00:25:37 ◼   ► division meeting family along i did get [TS]

00:25:39 ◼   ► a certificate [TS]

00:25:40 ◼   ► it was a virtual selected to me now [TS]

00:25:42 ◼   ► today but they've gone [TS]

00:25:45 ◼   ► Morgan Roderick has achieved soon [TS]

00:25:48 ◼   ► medallion status for his ability to sit [TS]

00:25:50 ◼   ► on a plane for over 25,000 miles [TS]

00:25:54 ◼   ► hear ye hear ye hear ye oh oh yeah so I [TS]

00:26:00 ◼   ► got some Italian started a status and my [TS]

00:26:03 ◼   ► more well-traveled friends one of whom [TS]

00:26:07 ◼   ► is consistently a has a gold status my [TS]

00:26:11 ◼   ► friend Jason Finn had a nickname what we [TS]

00:26:14 ◼   ► have for many years he was just he was [TS]

00:26:15 ◼   ► called Goldmember dad because because [TS]

00:26:22 ◼   ► when he traveled he was obsessed with [TS]

00:26:24 ◼   ► his his mileage plans and for many years [TS]

00:26:28 ◼   ► it's like a version of sports for some [TS]

00:26:29 ◼   ► people it is but he was in the famous [TS]

00:26:32 ◼   ► band uh president the united states of [TS]

00:26:35 ◼   ► america who routinely flew to europe and [TS]

00:26:37 ◼   ► asia and australia and just going for a [TS]

00:26:40 ◼   ► weekend sometime say they would they [TS]

00:26:42 ◼   ► would fly to Belgium play it play Big [TS]

00:26:44 ◼   ► Show fly home you know they leave hunt [TS]

00:26:46 ◼   ► friday be back on Sunday [TS]

00:26:47 ◼   ► which was bananas to me but you know [TS]

00:26:49 ◼   ► they were paid very handsomely [TS]

00:26:51 ◼   ► but the thing is they would fly to [TS]

00:26:52 ◼   ► Australia and Jason would be in first [TS]

00:26:54 ◼   ► class and the rest of his band and crew [TS]

00:26:57 ◼   ► would be in coach and it's not that they [TS]

00:26:59 ◼   ► didn't all it's not that they could [TS]

00:27:01 ◼   ► involve in goldmember's it's just that [TS]

00:27:03 ◼   ► the other guys didn't bother to do the [TS]

00:27:07 ◼   ► paperwork and obsess over the over that [TS]

00:27:10 ◼   ► little bit of saving up your credits [TS]

00:27:12 ◼   ► right and so they get on the plane and [TS]

00:27:14 ◼   ► his bandmates were rightfully furious [TS]

00:27:16 ◼   ► but Jason would be like well then [TS]

00:27:19 ◼   ► manager manager miles and the thing is [TS]

00:27:23 ◼   ► Jason appointed himself to be the [TS]

00:27:25 ◼   ► traveled a coordinator for his band so [TS]

00:27:30 ◼   ► he made sure that they always flew on [TS]

00:27:32 ◼   ► the airlines that he was interested in [TS]

00:27:34 ◼   ► collecting miles on you know he had a [TS]

00:27:36 ◼   ► whole plan a project and I and I think [TS]

00:27:39 ◼   ► he he i could paraded his bandmates you [TS]

00:27:43 ◼   ► should do this you should do this and [TS]

00:27:45 ◼   ► that you know and they just felt like it [TS]

00:27:46 ◼   ► was beneath their dignity but anyway I [TS]

00:27:48 ◼   ► so i have several friends who are gold [TS]

00:27:50 ◼   ► members but then I also have one famous [TS]

00:27:52 ◼   ► friend that you and I both know who has [TS]

00:27:55 ◼   ► just achieved dymond status haha [TS]

00:27:58 ◼   ► judgment [TS]

00:27:59 ◼   ► yeah he was platinum for a long time and [TS]

00:28:01 ◼   ► then he be whenever he actually made a [TS]

00:28:05 ◼   ► specious cross-country trip for no other [TS]

00:28:08 ◼   ► reason than to achieve diamond status at [TS]

00:28:11 ◼   ► the very end of the year it was just [TS]

00:28:12 ◼   ► like well you're only 5,000 miles away [TS]

00:28:14 ◼   ► from diamond status and he was like [TS]

00:28:15 ◼   ► alright I'm fly somebody in Portland was [TS]

00:28:18 ◼   ► like I'll give you fifty fifty dollars [TS]

00:28:20 ◼   ► to show up for the opening of this [TS]

00:28:21 ◼   ► bottle of wine and and jon was like you [TS]

00:28:24 ◼   ► know what I'll do it just to achieve so [TS]

00:28:28 ◼   ► now he's diamond students and so I you [TS]

00:28:31 ◼   ► know spy rope i wrote an email i have [TS]

00:28:33 ◼   ► element to a few people I was like I [TS]

00:28:36 ◼   ► just got Silver's datas look at me [TS]

00:28:40 ◼   ► and I got back all these condescending [TS]

00:28:44 ◼   ► emails [TS]

00:28:45 ◼   ► congratulations i hope you know that [TS]

00:28:48 ◼   ► silver status accord you nothing you [TS]

00:28:52 ◼   ► know there was seriously like it was [TS]

00:28:55 ◼   ► like The Dukes and Earls were [TS]

00:28:58 ◼   ► congratulating somebody that got an MBE [TS]

00:29:00 ◼   ► like the lowest grade would be like it [TS]

00:29:03 ◼   ► would be like telling like a Rothschild [TS]

00:29:05 ◼   ► you just bought stock [TS]

00:29:06 ◼   ► yeah I got some star gotta stock hey [TS]

00:29:09 ◼   ► look at me and so I got all this kind of [TS]

00:29:13 ◼   ► all this like shade thrown at me about [TS]

00:29:16 ◼   ► my silver status like oh great silver [TS]

00:29:18 ◼   ► status you know they just give that to [TS]

00:29:19 ◼   ► you to like to like get you on the hook [TS]

00:29:22 ◼   ► so that's exactly the first big payout [TS]

00:29:25 ◼   ► of the night on nickel slots [TS]

00:29:27 ◼   ► uh-huh it's like this will keep him here [TS]

00:29:29 ◼   ► for a while because now now that thing [TS]

00:29:31 ◼   ► is it it's a little bit of how do you [TS]

00:29:33 ◼   ► refer to it as a white white ribbon is [TS]

00:29:35 ◼   ► that what you call it [TS]

00:29:36 ◼   ► oh well yeah i would call it the white [TS]

00:29:38 ◼   ► ribbon that's right the way you've got [TS]

00:29:39 ◼   ► the white ribbon to the console you know [TS]

00:29:41 ◼   ► it's it's either the third-place finish [TS]

00:29:43 ◼   ► or in some cases the participation the [TS]

00:29:46 ◼   ► participation i think is standard coach [TS]

00:29:48 ◼   ► but I mean white you know really maybe [TS]

00:29:50 ◼   ► it's like getting a sixth-place rabbit [TS]

00:29:52 ◼   ► was like I didn't know they made ribbon [TS]

00:29:54 ◼   ► for its but somebody had to take the [TS]

00:29:57 ◼   ► time to figure out I'd like tied for [TS]

00:29:58 ◼   ► sixth yeah it's the brown ribbon it's [TS]

00:30:00 ◼   ► right but I mean it's like even when I [TS]

00:30:02 ◼   ► kinda hate talking about airplanes [TS]

00:30:04 ◼   ► you've got to stop but like I for me [TS]

00:30:06 ◼   ► like uh I mean even being in that [TS]

00:30:09 ◼   ► business class or first but like when [TS]

00:30:11 ◼   ► you get like the priority boarding and [TS]

00:30:12 ◼   ► like you paid to get in like they know [TS]

00:30:14 ◼   ► for me that's if I can afford it when I [TS]

00:30:16 ◼   ► flyer something else is paying for me [TS]

00:30:18 ◼   ► that's always virgins main cabin select [TS]

00:30:21 ◼   ► right which is great [TS]

00:30:22 ◼   ► it's so great because it's already it's [TS]

00:30:24 ◼   ► very close to business class or at first [TS]

00:30:26 ◼   ► it's so great to get all the free TV get [TS]

00:30:28 ◼   ► all the free food you get all the free [TS]

00:30:29 ◼   ► alcohol you get a nice big chair to sit [TS]

00:30:31 ◼   ► in but chairs on engine and typically [TS]

00:30:34 ◼   ► you are then seated next to someone who [TS]

00:30:36 ◼   ► also understands not to talk to you [TS]

00:30:38 ◼   ► yeah absolutely United you a very very [TS]

00:30:40 ◼   ► quick polite greeting at the beginning [TS]

00:30:42 ◼   ► and then you you maybe something after [TS]

00:30:44 ◼   ► the wheels hit the runway [TS]

00:30:46 ◼   ► no I totally agree you stare at your [TS]

00:30:47 ◼   ► device maybe we'll get somebody they [TS]

00:30:49 ◼   ► don't get somebody with a large pizza [TS]

00:30:51 ◼   ► and 200 papers to grade [TS]

00:30:53 ◼   ► haha i'll never forget this woman this [TS]

00:30:54 ◼   ► woman walked into the middle seat with a [TS]

00:30:56 ◼   ► pizza that was larger than her [TS]

00:30:58 ◼   ► why uh so but then the thing is it's [TS]

00:31:01 ◼   ► with all these statuses and it's [TS]

00:31:02 ◼   ► hilarious i'm sure there's been a [TS]

00:31:03 ◼   ► million stand-up it's about this but all [TS]

00:31:05 ◼   ► the status is where you start with like [TS]

00:31:07 ◼   ► you know military people in uniform and [TS]

00:31:08 ◼   ► people disabilities kids and then you go [TS]

00:31:11 ◼   ► through like it's hilarious to me there [TS]

00:31:13 ◼   ► must be like six different statuses [TS]

00:31:15 ◼   ► million milers then diamond-- then ya [TS]

00:31:18 ◼   ► gotta be gotta you know what I'm trying [TS]

00:31:20 ◼   ► to think on on some of you guys always [TS]

00:31:21 ◼   ► something like international class path [TS]

00:31:24 ◼   ► slide number so there's the highest [TS]

00:31:25 ◼   ► level and then you go through all the [TS]

00:31:26 ◼   ► different metals at and it's incredible [TS]

00:31:29 ◼   ► because like even we paid to have the [TS]

00:31:30 ◼   ► earlier seating it what you really [TS]

00:31:33 ◼   ► gotten is you are the people who board [TS]

00:31:35 ◼   ► right before the the bad people who get [TS]

00:31:38 ◼   ► there extra you know that that first 40 [TS]

00:31:40 ◼   ► people on the plane that are all those [TS]

00:31:41 ◼   ► statuses are also the people that know [TS]

00:31:44 ◼   ► how to get on an airplane they know that [TS]

00:31:46 ◼   ► they're all carrying small bags if you [TS]

00:31:49 ◼   ► notice [TS]

00:31:50 ◼   ► usually you know there's very few [TS]

00:31:51 ◼   ► billion a lot of leakage back into the [TS]

00:31:54 ◼   ► larger bag that is really there's that [TS]

00:31:56 ◼   ► that's happening that's that's chronic [TS]

00:31:58 ◼   ► right but now but you're not going to [TS]

00:32:00 ◼   ► see somebody with with platinum status [TS]

00:32:03 ◼   ► that's carrying loose fruit that's [TS]

00:32:05 ◼   ► carrying a butt like a huge huge bag [TS]

00:32:09 ◼   ► another huge bag on top of it then an [TS]

00:32:11 ◼   ► accordion in its case and then a monkey [TS]

00:32:13 ◼   ► and you know and then a huge bag of [TS]

00:32:17 ◼   ► monkey chow the airline said the monkey [TS]

00:32:19 ◼   ► consider my life with talking about [TS]

00:32:21 ◼   ► though it's a service monkey it's in lab [TS]

00:32:23 ◼   ► monkey [TS]

00:32:23 ◼   ► anyway the point of the point of this [TS]

00:32:25 ◼   ► every day that a pizza right the order [TS]

00:32:29 ◼   ► canada tuna fish is yellow you up pizza [TS]

00:32:31 ◼   ► and take-out playing my god i I've done [TS]

00:32:33 ◼   ► it [TS]

00:32:34 ◼   ► Oh Jonathan airport one time I was like [TS]

00:32:36 ◼   ► wait a minute you'll sell me an entire [TS]

00:32:37 ◼   ► pizza and they were like yes and I was [TS]

00:32:38 ◼   ► like sold this is that is such a hate [TS]

00:32:41 ◼   ► crime [TS]

00:32:41 ◼   ► no I took it on the plane and I was like [TS]

00:32:43 ◼   ► well we got a pizza in the people next [TS]

00:32:45 ◼   ► we were like oh my god I was like are [TS]

00:32:47 ◼   ► you kidding me everything on a piece [TS]

00:32:49 ◼   ► everything smells so much worse on a [TS]

00:32:51 ◼   ► plane what is because it mingles with [TS]

00:32:53 ◼   ► the parts of the air conditioning is it [TS]

00:32:55 ◼   ► the long tube is not gonna let that [TS]

00:32:56 ◼   ► escaping simply says brings a fucking [TS]

00:32:58 ◼   ► hoagie on [TS]

00:32:59 ◼   ► listen you know the guy next to me is [TS]

00:33:00 ◼   ► probably took his shoes off you know and [TS]

00:33:02 ◼   ► there it was just like I've got a pizza [TS]

00:33:04 ◼   ► is [TS]

00:33:05 ◼   ► it was one of the few moments I got on a [TS]

00:33:07 ◼   ► plane and I turned into like a like a [TS]

00:33:10 ◼   ► four-year-old monkey right like I was [TS]

00:33:12 ◼   ► just like I have pizza haha hey boss man [TS]

00:33:17 ◼   ► in any case yes so back to silver status [TS]

00:33:22 ◼   ► out five of the six flights I've taken [TS]

00:33:25 ◼   ► since i got silver status five five out [TS]

00:33:28 ◼   ► of the six I was upgraded to first class [TS]

00:33:30 ◼   ► what as a silver status is unheard of [TS]

00:33:33 ◼   ► for free just I get to the airport i'm [TS]

00:33:36 ◼   ► i'm i'm walking in you know of course i [TS]

00:33:38 ◼   ► have pre-check because I must thank you [TS]

00:33:40 ◼   ► know your stance on no no no I wouldn't [TS]

00:33:44 ◼   ► fly united if the world had come to an [TS]

00:33:46 ◼   ► end and they were the only flight and it [TS]

00:33:48 ◼   ► was a flight away from erupting volcano [TS]

00:33:50 ◼   ► found to see your daughter out of the [TS]

00:33:52 ◼   ► Apocalypse there's what's he left once [TS]

00:33:54 ◼   ► he left no you i will die here in the [TS]

00:33:56 ◼   ► lava flow before i get our unit she's [TS]

00:33:58 ◼   ► like it not me [TS]

00:33:59 ◼   ► no no we all die we all die ok whatever [TS]

00:34:03 ◼   ► like they're like jet airline you know I [TS]

00:34:05 ◼   ► don't want to give free advertising to [TS]

00:34:07 ◼   ► some stupid airline I think they're all [TS]

00:34:09 ◼   ► garbage but i don't have people listen [TS]

00:34:10 ◼   ► the show jon was fucking airline is it [TS]

00:34:12 ◼   ► haha i fly delta well no they're [TS]

00:34:16 ◼   ► terrible they're all terrible but Delta [TS]

00:34:19 ◼   ► so anyway Jason Finn sends me he sends [TS]

00:34:21 ◼   ► me he's like when he realizes that i'm [TS]

00:34:24 ◼   ► interested in this stuff because and [TS]

00:34:27 ◼   ► what got me interested frankly couple [TS]

00:34:30 ◼   ► years ago I did 50 flights in a year and [TS]

00:34:33 ◼   ► I just was i was going online and just [TS]

00:34:34 ◼   ► picking flights based on how cheap they [TS]

00:34:36 ◼   ► were and then I flew to Africa with [TS]

00:34:40 ◼   ► jonathan coulton yeah right who got [TS]

00:34:42 ◼   ► upgraded across the ocean and SAT up [TS]

00:34:46 ◼   ► there basically pouring glasses of free [TS]

00:34:50 ◼   ► wine on the carpet [TS]

00:34:51 ◼   ► he can get up slave while i was back in [TS]

00:34:55 ◼   ► coach you know uh well which was a you [TS]

00:34:58 ◼   ► know which was like but like Tatooine [TS]

00:35:01 ◼   ► and then we get to Paris and Jonathan [TS]

00:35:08 ◼   ► gets upgraded on an air france flight [TS]

00:35:10 ◼   ► 229 me needs air [TS]

00:35:14 ◼   ► there ain't no upgrade like an air [TS]

00:35:15 ◼   ► france upgrade we're just like you get [TS]

00:35:17 ◼   ► the what and he's like as part of the [TS]

00:35:19 ◼   ► fuckin star alliance or whatever see you [TS]

00:35:21 ◼   ► later dork and went up there and was [TS]

00:35:25 ◼   ► basically I mean it when he was [TS]

00:35:26 ◼   ► basically like in an apology hat hitting [TS]

00:35:29 ◼   ► people over the head with a loaf of [TS]

00:35:30 ◼   ► French bread with and I think you know [TS]

00:35:35 ◼   ► and i'm back in coach on a flight on an [TS]

00:35:38 ◼   ► air france flight and it's just like [TS]

00:35:39 ◼   ► okay all right well there are two [TS]

00:35:42 ◼   ► banthas down there [TS]

00:35:43 ◼   ► what's it that's right that's right i [TS]

00:35:48 ◼   ► had my it doesn't like you I don't like [TS]

00:35:53 ◼   ► you either just one good sir [TS]

00:35:56 ◼   ► when he get out of France yeah give me a [TS]

00:35:59 ◼   ► break you just watch yourself because [TS]

00:36:01 ◼   ► couple yeah it's like it's like the guy [TS]

00:36:03 ◼   ► that makes eyeballs in Blade Runner not [TS]

00:36:07 ◼   ► the guy that makes eyeballs because it [TS]

00:36:08 ◼   ► tells him where to get the guy that [TS]

00:36:09 ◼   ► makes eyeballs haha the guy the guy in [TS]

00:36:11 ◼   ► the cold room that one guy that's in [TS]

00:36:12 ◼   ► everything that's right [TS]

00:36:13 ◼   ► what's his name should know his name he [TS]

00:36:15 ◼   ► isn't everything inside until he's the [TS]

00:36:17 ◼   ► he's the 10 minutes 5 10 minutes [TS]

00:36:20 ◼   ► mm because the best anyway i'll cut this [TS]

00:36:21 ◼   ► up in a cage really want a Celine and [TS]

00:36:24 ◼   ► JAC just moved in Apalachee hat [TS]

00:36:26 ◼   ► yeah so then i get back to America and I [TS]

00:36:28 ◼   ► run in Jason Finn my close friend and [TS]

00:36:30 ◼   ► adviser and consigliere and I say Jason [TS]

00:36:34 ◼   ► with the hell [TS]

00:36:35 ◼   ► jonathan coulton smugly flew all the way [TS]

00:36:37 ◼   ► across the world like just just content [TS]

00:36:42 ◼   ► in it and with his fucking i went to [TS]

00:36:44 ◼   ► Yale card in his wallet so he feels like [TS]

00:36:47 ◼   ► that's all just part of its all what he [TS]

00:36:49 ◼   ► deserves you-know-who and I'm like how [TS]

00:36:51 ◼   ► do i what am I supposed to do and jason [TS]

00:36:53 ◼   ► said first mistake you fly on whatever [TS]

00:36:55 ◼   ► airline you need to you need to pick an [TS]

00:36:57 ◼   ► airline and stick with it [TS]

00:36:58 ◼   ► second mistake don't make the don't make [TS]

00:37:01 ◼   ► the second mistake and he sent me a long [TS]

00:37:04 ◼   ► he sent me these links to websites where [TS]

00:37:08 ◼   ► people talk about their mileage plans I [TS]

00:37:11 ◼   ► stood in one of these people there are [TS]

00:37:13 ◼   ► websites where people do nothing but [TS]

00:37:15 ◼   ► rate airline mileage plans [TS]

00:37:17 ◼   ► yeah and the consensus is the Delta has [TS]

00:37:20 ◼   ► the best one even though it's not as [TS]

00:37:21 ◼   ► good as it used to be even though they [TS]

00:37:23 ◼   ► change the carpet in the portland [TS]

00:37:24 ◼   ► airport like it's like being dropped [TS]

00:37:26 ◼   ► into the nicest oubliette [TS]

00:37:28 ◼   ► oh this is much less moist in the other [TS]

00:37:33 ◼   ► one but I i only have to wipe off my [TS]

00:37:36 ◼   ► glasses every every 20 minutes early [TS]

00:37:39 ◼   ► human shit into coordinates 0 5 stars so [TS]

00:37:43 ◼   ► so i signed up for it anyway so now I'm [TS]

00:37:45 ◼   ► you know in high hodgman and colder also [TS]

00:37:48 ◼   ► on delta and so Hodgman all the time he [TS]

00:37:51 ◼   ► loves to take me into the Delta Sky [TS]

00:37:53 ◼   ► Lounge in various airports and we go [TS]

00:37:56 ◼   ► into the delta sky lounge which is not a [TS]

00:37:58 ◼   ► place I would go under any circumstances [TS]

00:38:00 ◼   ► if i was living in an airport and I had [TS]

00:38:02 ◼   ► if I was one of those people who was in [TS]

00:38:04 ◼   ► immigration status where I had to live [TS]

00:38:06 ◼   ► in JFK for a year I would rather sleep [TS]

00:38:10 ◼   ► in front of us borrows then ever go into [TS]

00:38:13 ◼   ► a delta sky lounge it's just like the [TS]

00:38:15 ◼   ► most hateful place you're surrounded by [TS]

00:38:18 ◼   ► like just that could that creepy class [TS]

00:38:22 ◼   ► of young people that they're just there [TS]

00:38:25 ◼   ► there there so.there swaddled in [TS]

00:38:27 ◼   ► privilege and they're just so happy to [TS]

00:38:28 ◼   ► eat like fucking cookies out of those [TS]

00:38:30 ◼   ► little cupcake things like eating a free [TS]

00:38:32 ◼   ► bagel and a banana and they're just [TS]

00:38:34 ◼   ► gonna refill their fucking coffee [TS]

00:38:35 ◼   ► yes it's like Rose was like a coffee [TS]

00:38:37 ◼   ► machine and some bananas you know and [TS]

00:38:41 ◼   ► and and some copy of copies of [TS]

00:38:44 ◼   ► Businessweek like creating this but the [TS]

00:38:46 ◼   ► people are the worst then it's so bad [TS]

00:38:49 ◼   ► and hard-nosed they are he so he takes [TS]

00:38:51 ◼   ► me in there we sit in the comfortable [TS]

00:38:53 ◼   ► chairs and we look around and then it's [TS]

00:38:56 ◼   ► just one of those situations like look [TS]

00:38:57 ◼   ► at that asshole [TS]

00:38:58 ◼   ► oh my God look at this all coming in [TS]

00:39:00 ◼   ► here just like oh my god this is awful [TS]

00:39:02 ◼   ► but he loves to be in there and he loves [TS]

00:39:06 ◼   ► to bring me in there and so anyway so [TS]

00:39:09 ◼   ► I'm silver status and I'm just thinking [TS]

00:39:11 ◼   ► like wacko wacko right and then I get [TS]

00:39:14 ◼   ► upgraded to first class five out of six [TS]

00:39:15 ◼   ► times and I feel like that's unheard of [TS]

00:39:18 ◼   ► Jason I so I roll over on my belly and [TS]

00:39:21 ◼   ► I'm like Delta stroke my tummy [TS]

00:39:23 ◼   ► you know like I completely surrender all [TS]

00:39:25 ◼   ► my dignity and now i'm sitting in the [TS]

00:39:28 ◼   ► departure lounge i'm looking up at the [TS]

00:39:30 ◼   ► little screen and it's just like my name [TS]

00:39:32 ◼   ► is on the list my name is you know my [TS]

00:39:34 ◼   ► three-letter yeah representation of my [TS]

00:39:37 ◼   ► name is up there and then [TS]

00:39:39 ◼   ► that I come up to the gate and I'm like [TS]

00:39:40 ◼   ► come on Chabad couple i did you grow up [TS]

00:39:43 ◼   ► here i am j rod [TS]

00:39:45 ◼   ► hello hello come on come on come on [TS]

00:39:48 ◼   ► they're like thing and now all of a [TS]

00:39:50 ◼   ► sudden I'm sitting up front and I got a [TS]

00:39:52 ◼   ► golden take a happy people are nice to [TS]

00:39:55 ◼   ► me but the problem is on the last flight [TS]

00:39:57 ◼   ► the woman next to me discovered that I [TS]

00:40:00 ◼   ► was from Wales I don't know how I don't [TS]

00:40:02 ◼   ► you know I don't know what happened but [TS]

00:40:04 ◼   ► I was just a I let it slip out that my [TS]

00:40:07 ◼   ► people were from Wales right okay she [TS]

00:40:10 ◼   ► was speaking with an accent and I can't [TS]

00:40:13 ◼   ► resist when someone speaking with an [TS]

00:40:16 ◼   ► accent hello and now you open the door [TS]

00:40:18 ◼   ► naked talk about whales [TS]

00:40:19 ◼   ► yeah I can't I can't I can't resist [TS]

00:40:21 ◼   ► being like so are you from likely blank [TS]

00:40:25 ◼   ► like it's just I can't stop myself right [TS]

00:40:29 ◼   ► so are you from Sumatra and it's just [TS]

00:40:32 ◼   ► this thing where I look at them and i'm [TS]

00:40:33 ◼   ► just guessing [TS]

00:40:35 ◼   ► I just want to guess where they're from [TS]

00:40:36 ◼   ► my one and i want to be i first of all I [TS]

00:40:39 ◼   ► want to guess whether from second of all [TS]

00:40:40 ◼   ► I want to be right because when you're [TS]

00:40:42 ◼   ► right and the person is like how did you [TS]

00:40:45 ◼   ► know I was from Sumatra most people [TS]

00:40:47 ◼   ► don't even know about that that exists [TS]

00:40:49 ◼   ► tonight and then you just like well i am [TS]

00:40:52 ◼   ► the most interesting man in the world so [TS]

00:40:54 ◼   ► I know where patterns on your elbow I [TS]

00:40:56 ◼   ► can tell exactly so I you know so I so I [TS]

00:41:00 ◼   ► guess she's from Bristol and i'm wrong [TS]

00:41:03 ◼   ► and then it turns out she's from Cardiff [TS]

00:41:07 ◼   ► and I'm like oh and I for a brief second [TS]

00:41:10 ◼   ► i sustain the possibility that this is [TS]

00:41:12 ◼   ► going to be an interesting conversation [TS]

00:41:13 ◼   ► even agent Don you this is a terrible [TS]

00:41:15 ◼   ► idea [TS]

00:41:16 ◼   ► yeah and then you know and pretty soon [TS]

00:41:19 ◼   ► she's talking to me about her graduate [TS]

00:41:21 ◼   ► thesis and I'm that she obviously did 35 [TS]

00:41:26 ◼   ► years ago and it was on the universality [TS]

00:41:29 ◼   ► of religions which normally would be an [TS]

00:41:32 ◼   ► interesting topic to me but in this [TS]

00:41:33 ◼   ► particular circumstance it was it was [TS]

00:41:36 ◼   ► not enjoyable and I and I ended up being [TS]

00:41:40 ◼   ► I ended up being the the rude person [TS]

00:41:42 ◼   ► that I never a.m. [TS]

00:41:43 ◼   ► which is that I I was like I've got to [TS]

00:41:45 ◼   ► go to the bathroom when I didn't got up [TS]

00:41:47 ◼   ► and went to the bathroom made myself go [TS]

00:41:50 ◼   ► and then came back and immediately [TS]

00:41:51 ◼   ► started doing the crossword in the end [TS]

00:41:53 ◼   ► inflight magazine yeah and you know and [TS]

00:41:56 ◼   ► I could feel I could feel for a moment a [TS]

00:41:59 ◼   ► little bit of of pregnancy between us [TS]

00:42:03 ◼   ► where she was like are we not going to [TS]

00:42:05 ◼   ► resume the conversation about my [TS]

00:42:06 ◼   ► master's thesis for my graduate thesis [TS]

00:42:08 ◼   ► right and I was like four letter word [TS]

00:42:12 ◼   ► for Tatooine so awkward because there [TS]

00:42:19 ◼   ► are some people that I i'm always amazed [TS]

00:42:21 ◼   ► because I I get very introverted on a [TS]

00:42:24 ◼   ► flight i dunno i mean i know i'm happy [TS]

00:42:27 ◼   ► to talk to be unique be gracious and say [TS]

00:42:29 ◼   ► thank you things like that but like I do [TS]

00:42:30 ◼   ► not want to give any signal that i would [TS]

00:42:33 ◼   ► like to have a conversation that has no [TS]

00:42:35 ◼   ► clear end to it right there are people [TS]

00:42:37 ◼   ► there are some people i don't know why [TS]

00:42:39 ◼   ► but I mean like you know it's i don't [TS]

00:42:41 ◼   ► know i'm already someone edge but like [TS]

00:42:42 ◼   ► some people really really want to talk [TS]

00:42:45 ◼   ► on a plane because they're nervous you [TS]

00:42:46 ◼   ► think well maybe because it just makes [TS]

00:42:48 ◼   ► this an exciting thing for them maybe [TS]

00:42:49 ◼   ► they're excited to be on the plane [TS]

00:42:50 ◼   ► perfect they want to talk all the time i [TS]

00:42:53 ◼   ► mean i think that there are lots and [TS]

00:42:54 ◼   ► lots of people that just that want to [TS]

00:42:56 ◼   ► talk you know I i I've been thinking a [TS]

00:43:01 ◼   ► lot about this lately that they're you [TS]

00:43:03 ◼   ► know we talked about emotional [TS]

00:43:04 ◼   ► intelligence and intellectual [TS]

00:43:06 ◼   ► intelligence and and only only recently [TS]

00:43:10 ◼   ► I think have people even gotten [TS]

00:43:12 ◼   ► comfortable talking about emotional [TS]

00:43:13 ◼   ► intelligence there was intelligence and [TS]

00:43:17 ◼   ► then it was at and it was presumed that [TS]

00:43:19 ◼   ► emotions were the opposite of [TS]

00:43:22 ◼   ► intelligence right i mean when i was a [TS]

00:43:25 ◼   ► kid or even until recently emotional [TS]

00:43:29 ◼   ► reactions emotional behavior was like [TS]

00:43:31 ◼   ► whoa whoa you know why are you having an [TS]

00:43:34 ◼   ► emotional reaction you should be [TS]

00:43:35 ◼   ► reasonable and rational here i think [TS]

00:43:38 ◼   ► there are tons and tons of people that [TS]

00:43:40 ◼   ► still believe that that emotion is [TS]

00:43:43 ◼   ► unpredictable unreliable and the [TS]

00:43:46 ◼   ► opposite of being smart but there are a [TS]

00:43:50 ◼   ► lot of us that now are able to talk [TS]

00:43:52 ◼   ► about an emotional intelligence which is [TS]

00:43:54 ◼   ► different and [TS]

00:43:56 ◼   ► compatible with intellectual [TS]

00:43:58 ◼   ► intelligence and any I think part of [TS]

00:44:02 ◼   ► emotional intelligence is not just being [TS]

00:44:03 ◼   ► intelligent your emotions but other [TS]

00:44:05 ◼   ► people that's our daughters access the [TS]

00:44:07 ◼   ► real intelligence a hundred percent but [TS]

00:44:09 ◼   ► but the ability to the ability to [TS]

00:44:12 ◼   ► transact and converse in the world of [TS]

00:44:16 ◼   ► emotion without feeling like it's [TS]

00:44:19 ◼   ► strange or or a you know that that that [TS]

00:44:25 ◼   ► was as is invalid or danger is outright [TS]

00:44:28 ◼   ► that my immigrant when my good friend [TS]

00:44:30 ◼   ► Mike Squires once said to me [TS]

00:44:31 ◼   ► emotions are real and we stared at each [TS]

00:44:34 ◼   ► other in that moment and I was like it [TS]

00:44:36 ◼   ► was lightning bolt like my cot emotions [TS]

00:44:38 ◼   ► are real and he was like emotions are [TS]

00:44:40 ◼   ► real said it three or four times it was [TS]

00:44:42 ◼   ► like it was like Robin was talking to [TS]

00:44:44 ◼   ► matt damon emotions are real emotions [TS]

00:44:48 ◼   ► are real until I started crying and I [TS]

00:44:51 ◼   ► was like wow emotions are real emotions [TS]

00:44:53 ◼   ► are real emotions are real [TS]

00:44:56 ◼   ► Wow but i've just recently started to [TS]

00:44:59 ◼   ► think about a kind of physical [TS]

00:45:01 ◼   ► intelligence of physical that this [TS]

00:45:03 ◼   ► physicality that we see in people that [TS]

00:45:06 ◼   ► is not just a gift in terms of I can [TS]

00:45:11 ◼   ► jump i can run fast I can dance well but [TS]

00:45:15 ◼   ► it's actually a way of expressing [TS]

00:45:16 ◼   ► oneself that that they that they need to [TS]

00:45:23 ◼   ► do it in some cases is their primary [TS]

00:45:26 ◼   ► language and there and when they're [TS]

00:45:30 ◼   ► unable to express themselves physically [TS]

00:45:32 ◼   ► they are you know they're hampered and [TS]

00:45:38 ◼   ► this is the thing that I was also [TS]

00:45:39 ◼   ► contemptuous of you know like it's just [TS]

00:45:42 ◼   ► they're just a jock right just somebody [TS]

00:45:45 ◼   ► that fucking wants to dance like when [TS]

00:45:47 ◼   ► are they going to sit down so that we [TS]

00:45:49 ◼   ► can get real and it was my lack of [TS]

00:45:52 ◼   ► understanding that that was as real as [TS]

00:45:54 ◼   ► it got for them this you know the [TS]

00:45:57 ◼   ► physical expression it's not you know [TS]

00:46:00 ◼   ► and i think part of the part of my [TS]

00:46:02 ◼   ► prejudice is that the physical temporal [TS]

00:46:06 ◼   ► material world seems [TS]

00:46:09 ◼   ► less lesser than the psycho-spiritual [TS]

00:46:14 ◼   ► world who um but you know the material [TS]

00:46:19 ◼   ► world is all we've got our bodies are [TS]

00:46:21 ◼   ► all we have [TS]

00:46:22 ◼   ► so I'm just trying to learn I'm trying [TS]

00:46:25 ◼   ► to study that and learn it and it's part [TS]

00:46:28 ◼   ► of having empathy for even more people [TS]

00:46:31 ◼   ► and realizing that some of the behaviors [TS]

00:46:34 ◼   ► that I think some of the behaviors that [TS]

00:46:36 ◼   ► that annoy me are actually someone [TS]

00:46:40 ◼   ► else's language and I should stop being [TS]

00:46:42 ◼   ► annoyed and start listening to them [TS]

00:46:44 ◼   ► that's good [TS]

00:46:45 ◼   ► it's weird it's a good one because you [TS]

00:46:47 ◼   ► look at him and you know and it's just [TS]

00:46:48 ◼   ► like stop spazzing or or you know like [TS]

00:46:52 ◼   ► stop being so good at dancing and and in [TS]

00:46:58 ◼   ► fact it's you know it's how they it's [TS]

00:47:00 ◼   ► how they're trying to communicate so i [TS]

00:47:04 ◼   ► don't and i still this is still [TS]

00:47:05 ◼   ► experimental for me you know but it but [TS]

00:47:08 ◼   ► it seems but it seems right and [TS]

00:47:10 ◼   ► sometimes you get you get seated next to [TS]

00:47:12 ◼   ► somebody like that on an airplane and [TS]

00:47:14 ◼   ► and you know they're using spoken [TS]

00:47:17 ◼   ► language and it's already a second [TS]

00:47:20 ◼   ► language to them because what they [TS]

00:47:21 ◼   ► really want to be doing is dancing or [TS]

00:47:23 ◼   ► throwing a football or it you know [TS]

00:47:27 ◼   ► expressing expressing this whole [TS]

00:47:29 ◼   ► physicality as a primary language yeah [TS]

00:47:32 ◼   ► yeah yeah what kind of what kind of [TS]

00:47:34 ◼   ► place do you see that to mean obviously [TS]

00:47:35 ◼   ► would be a dancer a dancer somebody that [TS]

00:47:39 ◼   ► you know somebody that is hyper in shape [TS]

00:47:43 ◼   ► because I and i'm thinking more here of [TS]

00:47:45 ◼   ► the gross movements of the body rather [TS]

00:47:48 ◼   ► than the final ones like I'm not sure [TS]

00:47:49 ◼   ► that being good at life drawing you know [TS]

00:47:52 ◼   ► i think that's that's a different kind [TS]

00:47:54 ◼   ► of thing we're talking about we're [TS]

00:47:54 ◼   ► talking about people who do big [TS]

00:47:56 ◼   ► movements gymnast but you know the [TS]

00:48:01 ◼   ► dancers are interesting because it's so [TS]

00:48:02 ◼   ► athletic but also so very expressive [TS]

00:48:05 ◼   ► right right right i mean it is but but [TS]

00:48:09 ◼   ► but there but I guess that's the thing [TS]

00:48:11 ◼   ► like dance we can we can see right it is [TS]

00:48:14 ◼   ► a language is a language of dance well I [TS]

00:48:17 ◼   ► mean I its and could be eating you can [TS]

00:48:19 ◼   ► get stuff like my my guess and stuff [TS]

00:48:21 ◼   ► like that but I I'm just [TS]

00:48:22 ◼   ► talking about like there's all the stuff [TS]

00:48:24 ◼   ► that we think about as like the [TS]

00:48:25 ◼   ► applications of intelligent people all [TS]

00:48:27 ◼   ► the stuff like all the knowledge work [TS]

00:48:29 ◼   ► jobs and creating jobs right so writing [TS]

00:48:32 ◼   ► it's writing as an example with this [TS]

00:48:35 ◼   ► writing music writing prose in a non [TS]

00:48:37 ◼   ► fiction fiction but in the case of [TS]

00:48:40 ◼   ► dancing its that's very interesting [TS]

00:48:41 ◼   ► because the only way to really get [TS]

00:48:43 ◼   ► dancing is to dance [TS]

00:48:45 ◼   ► I mean yes obviously you can also write [TS]

00:48:46 ◼   ► about dancing you could do movies about [TS]

00:48:48 ◼   ► dancing but its experience about [TS]

00:48:50 ◼   ► architecture you can dance if you want [TS]

00:48:51 ◼   ► to and some junkies talked about a lot [TS]

00:48:54 ◼   ► with video games is like it's not Marlon [TS]

00:48:56 ◼   ► I was just recently a identically [TS]

00:48:59 ◼   ► instructed on how to pronounce Sarek [TS]

00:49:03 ◼   ► user yeah i like to get into it so [TS]

00:49:04 ◼   ► they're accusing into it and sell oh uh [TS]

00:49:07 ◼   ► these words cannot collide applied but [TS]

00:49:10 ◼   ► like with him [TS]

00:49:11 ◼   ► I still can't get it right but take out [TS]

00:49:14 ◼   ► the coos you gotta get this year no [TS]

00:49:16 ◼   ► kudos and no clues that we don't want to [TS]

00:49:18 ◼   ► hear my whole life I've been trying to [TS]

00:49:19 ◼   ► take out the cool huh [TS]

00:49:22 ◼   ► so take out the crews take out the kids [TS]

00:49:26 ◼   ► bro [TS]

00:49:27 ◼   ► what was I saying yes so in his case [TS]

00:49:30 ◼   ► like I you know interested in video [TS]

00:49:32 ◼   ► games and playing very gently with some [TS]

00:49:34 ◼   ► video games but you know my God look [TS]

00:49:36 ◼   ► there's some of these run really [TS]

00:49:37 ◼   ► interested in the story of it where I [TS]

00:49:39 ◼   ► want to just watch people play it like a [TS]

00:49:40 ◼   ► movie and he's like that's the thing the [TS]

00:49:42 ◼   ► video game is not a movie like it looks [TS]

00:49:44 ◼   ► like a movie but when you're playing at [TS]

00:49:46 ◼   ► the the experience of playing one of [TS]

00:49:48 ◼   ► these very immersive video games is very [TS]

00:49:50 ◼   ► very different [TS]

00:49:50 ◼   ► I can't understand that because i [TS]

00:49:52 ◼   ► haven't played them and exit don't know [TS]

00:49:53 ◼   ► how to play them just as I can [TS]

00:49:55 ◼   ► understand that dance is its own [TS]

00:49:56 ◼   ► language of expression even though I [TS]

00:49:58 ◼   ► can't dance so a video game is not a [TS]

00:50:00 ◼   ► movie it's more like a masturbation hole [TS]

00:50:02 ◼   ► in a wall [TS]

00:50:03 ◼   ► no oh that's funny but no it's not i [TS]

00:50:06 ◼   ► don't even think it's funny that I'm [TS]

00:50:08 ◼   ► just trying to get angry letters because [TS]

00:50:09 ◼   ► I had such a good time last week so [TS]

00:50:11 ◼   ► don't be angry letters but what I was [TS]

00:50:14 ◼   ► gonna do [TS]

00:50:15 ◼   ► yeah i think the 61st understand John [TS]

00:50:18 ◼   ► you you you made a distinction just now [TS]

00:50:21 ◼   ► about gross motor skills versus fine but [TS]

00:50:25 ◼   ► when I think about the really best [TS]

00:50:28 ◼   ► surgeons you know there is we think of [TS]

00:50:32 ◼   ► them as as knowledge workers right there [TS]

00:50:35 ◼   ► they're good at science and happen to [TS]

00:50:36 ◼   ► have access to a scalpel yeah they're [TS]

00:50:38 ◼   ► they're highly highly educated and so we [TS]

00:50:42 ◼   ► admire them but really what sets [TS]

00:50:44 ◼   ► brilliant surgeons apart is the [TS]

00:50:47 ◼   ► physicality their ability to do Micro [TS]

00:50:51 ◼   ► Micro stuff with their hands and about [TS]

00:50:55 ◼   ► the duration of having to stand there [TS]

00:50:56 ◼   ► and do like open-heart surgery for 4-6 [TS]

00:50:58 ◼   ► hours of right so so it's really their [TS]

00:51:01 ◼   ► their natural gift in their body when [TS]

00:51:05 ◼   ► combined with their education that makes [TS]

00:51:08 ◼   ► them so gifted and that's the you know [TS]

00:51:12 ◼   ► it may be that there they are actually [TS]

00:51:16 ◼   ► people who express themselves in [TS]

00:51:19 ◼   ► physicality or super good you know [TS]

00:51:22 ◼   ► draftsman you know it it is a it is a [TS]

00:51:26 ◼   ► physical talent that has been honed into [TS]

00:51:30 ◼   ► a skill by practicing education just as [TS]

00:51:32 ◼   ► just as leaping high or a putting on [TS]

00:51:38 ◼   ► putting on a gold crown and and leaping [TS]

00:51:43 ◼   ► high she if she wants right so this [TS]

00:51:48 ◼   ► thing i did officially might think i'm [TS]

00:51:50 ◼   ► making is that did you know if you think [TS]

00:51:55 ◼   ► about it like a Venn diagram like a very [TS]

00:51:56 ◼   ► very complex and diagram there's all [TS]

00:51:58 ◼   ► these different kinds of skills that are [TS]

00:51:59 ◼   ► involved we can arbitrarily put into [TS]

00:52:01 ◼   ► these different areas even though [TS]

00:52:02 ◼   ► there's lots of overflow you know there [TS]

00:52:03 ◼   ► are some kinds of things and this could [TS]

00:52:05 ◼   ► even get into the knee high [TS]

00:52:06 ◼   ► csikszentmihalyi idea of flow well hello [TS]

00:52:09 ◼   ► will just say it's a selection of a [TS]

00:52:11 ◼   ► stroke [TS]

00:52:12 ◼   ► nope nope talked about a lot of [TS]

00:52:14 ◼   ► different places but he's this guy [TS]

00:52:15 ◼   ► writes a lot about creativity and what [TS]

00:52:17 ◼   ► he calls flow and he's created this is [TS]

00:52:19 ◼   ► very interesting matrix of you could [TS]

00:52:20 ◼   ► pick up the y axis as the level of [TS]

00:52:22 ◼   ► challenge and the x axis as little skill [TS]

00:52:25 ◼   ► so suddenly that you are that you find [TS]

00:52:28 ◼   ► not very challenging and that you don't [TS]

00:52:30 ◼   ► aren't very good at you that causes [TS]

00:52:32 ◼   ► apathy whereas for example something [TS]

00:52:34 ◼   ► where you have a very high level of [TS]

00:52:36 ◼   ► challenge and very low level skill that [TS]

00:52:37 ◼   ► produces anxiety so think about you [TS]

00:52:39 ◼   ► attacking your mp3's that's a task that [TS]

00:52:42 ◼   ► has a very low level of challenge but a [TS]

00:52:43 ◼   ► very high level of skill and realizing [TS]

00:52:46 ◼   ► that's a crossword puzzle [TS]

00:52:47 ◼   ► what is on tagging your mp3's [TS]

00:52:49 ◼   ► tagging technically you know the way you [TS]

00:52:51 ◼   ► like to do your mp3 metadata back in the [TS]

00:52:52 ◼   ► day or like a crossword puzzle we did I [TS]

00:52:55 ◼   ► never did that [TS]

00:52:55 ◼   ► o Allah nice try buddy i remember when [TS]

00:53:00 ◼   ► you got your first laptop you spent a [TS]

00:53:02 ◼   ► long time making sure the metadata was [TS]

00:53:04 ◼   ► right [TS]

00:53:04 ◼   ► wow ok alright metadata all right okay [TS]

00:53:09 ◼   ► yes you got me no no but it's also it [TS]

00:53:11 ◼   ► could be anything it could be like you [TS]

00:53:12 ◼   ► know sometimes when you have a job and [TS]

00:53:14 ◼   ► you're sick of the kind of slow thinking [TS]

00:53:16 ◼   ► work that you have to do like you want [TS]

00:53:18 ◼   ► something really monkey brain it's nice [TS]

00:53:20 ◼   ► to go read your file now what I do is I [TS]

00:53:22 ◼   ► go into my contacts [TS]

00:53:24 ◼   ► oh god I go through my contacts with the [TS]

00:53:27 ◼   ► with a comb so often when i'm sitting in [TS]

00:53:29 ◼   ► someplace boring where I don't have [TS]

00:53:31 ◼   ► service and you never will never run out [TS]

00:53:32 ◼   ► of that relaxing exercise know what I'm [TS]

00:53:34 ◼   ► gonna do I'm gonna scare me to go to my [TS]

00:53:36 ◼   ► contacts and I'm gonna figure out all [TS]

00:53:38 ◼   ► the things that aren't courage and all [TS]

00:53:40 ◼   ► those people never duplicated Reverend [TS]

00:53:42 ◼   ► or a brother or its anyway but that [TS]

00:53:45 ◼   ► thing I'm just saying that connects and [TS]

00:53:46 ◼   ► so in his example two semis example so [TS]

00:53:49 ◼   ► then where you're highly challenge but [TS]

00:53:50 ◼   ► highly skilled produces a flow state and [TS]

00:53:52 ◼   ► that's where you don't have to think [TS]

00:53:53 ◼   ► about what you're doing real right i [TS]

00:53:56 ◼   ► mean where you may be thinking about it [TS]

00:53:57 ◼   ► but you lose track of time I think about [TS]

00:53:59 ◼   ► when you really get your groove on with [TS]

00:54:00 ◼   ► like doing something with a song and you [TS]

00:54:01 ◼   ► kind of like you disappear into it and [TS]

00:54:03 ◼   ► yeah so anyway this guy's like the only [TS]

00:54:05 ◼   ► thing Merlin that I'm really highly [TS]

00:54:07 ◼   ► skilled that is going through my [TS]

00:54:08 ◼   ► contacts with a comb [TS]

00:54:10 ◼   ► i mean i don't really i cannot think of [TS]

00:54:12 ◼   ► another thing okay i mean you know i [TS]

00:54:15 ◼   ► said i said at home sometimes and [TS]

00:54:18 ◼   ► separate tie tacks into little boxes [TS]

00:54:21 ◼   ► ok now what level of challenges that is [TS]

00:54:23 ◼   ► that low medium or high [TS]

00:54:24 ◼   ► no I mean it's it is I feel like em boy [TS]

00:54:29 ◼   ► that's a good question because if it's [TS]

00:54:31 ◼   ► if it's a highly skilled with a medium [TS]

00:54:33 ◼   ► level of challenge that's that produces [TS]

00:54:35 ◼   ► the feeling of control [TS]

00:54:36 ◼   ► that's right you know what there's no [TS]

00:54:37 ◼   ► challenge to it it's just pleasurable [TS]

00:54:40 ◼   ► that's relaxing better [TS]

00:54:43 ◼   ► you're right now what do i do that is [TS]

00:54:45 ◼   ► super challenging that I have a high [TS]

00:54:46 ◼   ► level of skill let's go through these so [TS]

00:54:48 ◼   ► for a high level of challenge if it's a [TS]

00:54:50 ◼   ► very high level of challenge and you [TS]

00:54:52 ◼   ► have a medium amount of skill that's [TS]

00:54:54 ◼   ► arousal that's like oh I can do this boo [TS]

00:54:56 ◼   ► and whereas again if you have a low [TS]

00:54:58 ◼   ► level of skill that's anxiety [TS]

00:55:01 ◼   ► how about that here's one if you have a [TS]

00:55:03 ◼   ► medium level of skill and you have a low [TS]

00:55:07 ◼   ► level of challenge that's boredom [TS]

00:55:10 ◼   ► so you go from apathy to board them to [TS]

00:55:11 ◼   ► relaxation anyone how higher skill is [TS]

00:55:14 ◼   ► you know what it is i have had an [TS]

00:55:15 ◼   ► interesting concept it is i have a high [TS]

00:55:17 ◼   ► level of skill and a high level of [TS]

00:55:19 ◼   ► challenge diagnosing other people's [TS]

00:55:21 ◼   ► problems that gives you flow you got the [TS]

00:55:23 ◼   ► flow i really have some flow and when [TS]

00:55:25 ◼   ► that gets going it's going really well [TS]

00:55:27 ◼   ► with my life and I'm like tell me more [TS]

00:55:29 ◼   ► about your life and then they tell you [TS]

00:55:31 ◼   ► and you're like hmm ok it's like [TS]

00:55:33 ◼   ► dangling porkchop and for a wolf ok [TS]

00:55:35 ◼   ► let's get started here so let me ask you [TS]

00:55:37 ◼   ► a few questions i love that shit it's [TS]

00:55:39 ◼   ► just like oh I just I get into this [TS]

00:55:41 ◼   ► thing where I feel like I'm iceskating [TS]

00:55:42 ◼   ► the Olympics so I just wanted so this [TS]

00:55:45 ◼   ► does those kinds of things to qualify [TS]

00:55:47 ◼   ► that what kind of job is this what your [TS]

00:55:48 ◼   ► skills but then the the distinction the [TS]

00:55:50 ◼   ► biggest distinction i was making in my [TS]

00:55:51 ◼   ► head and I can't think of many to fit [TS]

00:55:54 ◼   ► this is in order to produce the thing [TS]

00:55:57 ◼   ► that you produce primarily with your job [TS]

00:55:59 ◼   ► doesn't require any large muscle group [TS]

00:56:02 ◼   ► apart from the gluteus right so you [TS]

00:56:04 ◼   ► might have to move some office supplies [TS]

00:56:05 ◼   ► around but mostly even if you're an [TS]

00:56:07 ◼   ► architect you're mostly like you know [TS]

00:56:09 ◼   ► you're using finer finer skills you're [TS]

00:56:11 ◼   ► not using your shoulders that much right [TS]

00:56:13 ◼   ► i mean units that i'm trying to get [TS]

00:56:14 ◼   ► stuff besides dance and construction [TS]

00:56:17 ◼   ► work like what are some other kinds of [TS]

00:56:18 ◼   ► jobs where the primary thing that you do [TS]

00:56:20 ◼   ► I mean how many jobs are the primary [TS]

00:56:22 ◼   ► thing you do requires the coordination [TS]

00:56:24 ◼   ► of large muscle groups that isn't like a [TS]

00:56:26 ◼   ► blue-collar job how many yoga [TS]

00:56:27 ◼   ► instructors are there little that's true [TS]

00:56:30 ◼   ► there are there are there are two [TS]

00:56:32 ◼   ► thousand yoga instructors for every [TS]

00:56:34 ◼   ► 3,000 people that's mandated certainly [TS]

00:56:37 ◼   ► the other council certainly in the world [TS]

00:56:39 ◼   ► that I live in at whenever somebody like [TS]

00:56:42 ◼   ► whenever somebody's going through a life [TS]

00:56:44 ◼   ► change right become a yoga instructor [TS]

00:56:46 ◼   ► and you get audited by the other counsel [TS]

00:56:49 ◼   ► you account for the council did you [TS]

00:56:50 ◼   ► notice I'm carrying that then I did I [TS]

00:56:52 ◼   ► ever tell you about the time I was in [TS]

00:56:53 ◼   ► her book vancouver hotel room [TS]

00:56:55 ◼   ► and I was laying in bed and I turn on [TS]

00:56:59 ◼   ► the television and the channel that the [TS]

00:57:01 ◼   ► cable was on i think it might have even [TS]

00:57:03 ◼   ► been the maybe ice maybe I click the [TS]

00:57:06 ◼   ► button once to get off of the hotel [TS]

00:57:10 ◼   ► yeah they're all about the way too loud [TS]

00:57:11 ◼   ► all about the hotel stay on being that [TS]

00:57:13 ◼   ► are welcome to the black hotel so I [TS]

00:57:17 ◼   ► clean reading is available till 11pm try [TS]

00:57:20 ◼   ► our spa would you like to wear a watch [TS]

00:57:22 ◼   ► an adult movie hot stone massage so i [TS]

00:57:25 ◼   ► clicked on that I click on the button [TS]

00:57:27 ◼   ► once and it immediately went to the yoga [TS]

00:57:30 ◼   ► channel which I had never seen and I [TS]

00:57:34 ◼   ► believe may be exclusive to Canada and [TS]

00:57:37 ◼   ► so I was like yoga channel let's see [TS]

00:57:40 ◼   ► what this is about and I laid back on my [TS]

00:57:42 ◼   ► pillow while this woman did yoga and [TS]

00:57:49 ◼   ► then it was clearly her she was [TS]

00:57:51 ◼   ► narrating her yoga practice but but you [TS]

00:57:55 ◼   ► know like an overdub her so as she did [TS]

00:57:58 ◼   ► the yoga she was also describing what [TS]

00:57:59 ◼   ► she was doing but but you couldn't see [TS]

00:58:01 ◼   ► her mouth move because she was consumed [TS]

00:58:03 ◼   ► by the yoga and she had a physicality [TS]

00:58:06 ◼   ► that was unbelievable like the her [TS]

00:58:09 ◼   ► flexibility and her the ability to do [TS]

00:58:11 ◼   ► these yoga's and I watched for [TS]

00:58:15 ◼   ► half-an-hour completely like drawn in [TS]

00:58:20 ◼   ► who in a in a sense like what is she [TS]

00:58:23 ◼   ► going to do next right [TS]

00:58:25 ◼   ► like is she going to thread herself [TS]

00:58:27 ◼   ► through the eye of a needle is this the [TS]

00:58:29 ◼   ► path tab what you know is she doing [TS]

00:58:34 ◼   ► permanent damage to herself she doesn't [TS]

00:58:36 ◼   ► appear she looks very blissed-out and [TS]

00:58:38 ◼   ► the thing was that her her narration was [TS]

00:58:40 ◼   ► constant and by the tone of her voice [TS]

00:58:42 ◼   ► and by her narration I knew that she was [TS]

00:58:45 ◼   ► not going through the eye of a needle [TS]

00:58:47 ◼   ► into heaven because I found her annoying [TS]

00:58:50 ◼   ► and I'm sure God would to ever [TS]

00:58:52 ◼   ► yeah but Wow a fantastic expression of [TS]

00:58:57 ◼   ► like physical communication [TS]

00:59:00 ◼   ► so that was probably the other ones too [TS]

00:59:03 ◼   ► i guess in some ways being a trainer or [TS]

00:59:06 ◼   ► coach would be another one is not that [TS]

00:59:09 ◼   ► many you know performing or visual arts [TS]

00:59:11 ◼   ► that require big muscles but I mean a [TS]

00:59:13 ◼   ► footballer a baseball sure basketballer [TS]

00:59:16 ◼   ► rockier hockey as they say in the DA [TS]

00:59:21 ◼   ► write a a mean all of the sporters and [TS]

00:59:27 ◼   ► then I even a racecar driver [TS]

00:59:30 ◼   ► oh sure accounts that's that's pretty [TS]

00:59:33 ◼   ► good supposedly pretty grueling you're [TS]

00:59:34 ◼   ► just sitting there you know you're not [TS]

00:59:36 ◼   ► riding the car you're driving it [TS]

00:59:37 ◼   ► that's right and so tell me what do you [TS]

00:59:40 ◼   ► think about skyscraper window washer uh [TS]

00:59:44 ◼   ► well it's an interesting job to me right [TS]

00:59:46 ◼   ► because you have to have a native i [TS]

00:59:49 ◼   ► think a native ability to get up there [TS]

00:59:52 ◼   ► on that scaffold and not and not be [TS]

00:59:56 ◼   ► wearing adult diapers every day [TS]

00:59:57 ◼   ► oh yeah I also think about things like [TS]

00:59:57 ◼   ► oh yeah I also think about things like [TS]

01:00:00 ◼   ► there's also these jobs that are such a [TS]

01:00:02 ◼   ► like a corner case or an edge case think [TS]

01:00:04 ◼   ► about being a piano tuner what a weird [TS]

01:00:07 ◼   ► job that is your been a room in a [TS]

01:00:09 ◼   ► pianist be in tune mean it's really [TS]

01:00:11 ◼   ► maddening [TS]

01:00:11 ◼   ► are you kidding me that's another thing [TS]

01:00:12 ◼   ► like the yoga channel I can't leave a [TS]

01:00:14 ◼   ► room where pianos being you can all my [TS]

01:00:16 ◼   ► goodness i remember the day in second [TS]

01:00:17 ◼   ► grade when they tune the upright piano [TS]

01:00:19 ◼   ► in our class and I thought my lunch I [TS]

01:00:20 ◼   ► was going to lose my mind [TS]

01:00:21 ◼   ► no well you know dial when I learned [TS]

01:00:27 ◼   ► about tempering a piano [TS]

01:00:29 ◼   ► oh my god i SAT around thinking I still [TS]

01:00:31 ◼   ► think I really think I thought made that [TS]

01:00:33 ◼   ► up idea at any temperature clavier well [TS]

01:00:36 ◼   ► they do it you know of it and where [TS]

01:00:38 ◼   ► everything is just where where things [TS]

01:00:40 ◼   ► are slightly out of tune as they [TS]

01:00:41 ◼   ► progress away from middle C and if [TS]

01:00:45 ◼   ► they're not out of tune if they're all [TS]