00:00:08 ◼ ► I burlwood how's it going Oh fine I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/8">TS</a>]
00:00:13 ◼ ► I'm just fighting a thing i'm fighting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/13">TS</a>]
00:00:17 ◼ ► no now the this sometimes those are the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/17">TS</a>]
00:00:22 ◼ ► mhm know you're getting ill well you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/22">TS</a>]
00:00:27 ◼ ► know I haven't had been getting ill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/27">TS</a>]
00:00:29 ◼ ► lately and I'm but I'm gonna stick with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/29">TS</a>]
00:00:32 ◼ ► that you know I have a good friend that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/32">TS</a>]
00:00:34 ◼ ► that the claims that she never get sick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/34">TS</a>]
00:00:36 ◼ ► and and when I have personally witnessed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/36">TS</a>]
00:00:41 ◼ ► her being sick she denies that she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/41">TS</a>]
00:00:44 ◼ ► sick and that's such a that such a flip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/44">TS</a>]
00:00:46 ◼ ► from most people or I don't know from a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/46">TS</a>]
00:00:49 ◼ ► lot of people who are always getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/49">TS</a>]
00:00:51 ◼ ► sick when they're not she never gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/51">TS</a>]
00:00:53 ◼ ► sick when she is and I've started to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/53">TS</a>]
00:00:57 ◼ ► kind of adopt that mentality I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/57">TS</a>]
00:00:59 ◼ ► sick I don't get sick i'm actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/59">TS</a>]
00:01:01 ◼ ► pretty interested in that because I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/61">TS</a>]
00:01:03 ◼ ► met people like this and I it's hard to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/63">TS</a>]
00:01:05 ◼ ► tell whether it works or not it's one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/65">TS</a>]
00:01:07 ◼ ► those things like you know scared the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/67">TS</a>]
00:01:08 ◼ ► alligators away but enlightened I've met [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/68">TS</a>]
00:01:10 ◼ ► people who seem they're so fixed in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/70">TS</a>]
00:01:14 ◼ ► their insistence that they aren't sick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/74">TS</a>]
00:01:18 ◼ ► actually beat it back and I wonder if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/78">TS</a>]
00:01:21 ◼ ► I wonder that when i'm talking about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/81">TS</a>]
00:01:24 ◼ ► corollary the corollary is we constantly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/84">TS</a>]
00:01:26 ◼ ► think you're getting sick and you do get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/86">TS</a>]
00:01:27 ◼ ► sick now I believe that can be a thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/87">TS</a>]
00:01:28 ◼ ► that happened that used to happen to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/88">TS</a>]
00:01:30 ◼ ► all the time remember when I would come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/90">TS</a>]
00:01:31 ◼ ► on this program might be sick all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/91">TS</a>]
00:01:35 ◼ ► I was sick all the time and now I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/95">TS</a>]
00:01:36 ◼ ► chasing the alligator away is what is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/96">TS</a>]
00:01:38 ◼ ► what we're basically saying so so that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/98">TS</a>]
00:01:43 ◼ ► sensations which are not sickness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/103">TS</a>]
00:01:45 ◼ ► sensations but we're just simply my body [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/105">TS</a>]
00:01:49 ◼ ► telling me that I'm alive and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/109">TS</a>]
00:01:52 ◼ ► foreign agents are lurking there lurking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/112">TS</a>]
00:01:57 ◼ ► around the the the dark corners of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/117">TS</a>]
00:02:00 ◼ ► city of my lungs and nose and I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/120">TS</a>]
00:02:04 ◼ ► going to allow them i'm gonna it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/124">TS</a>]
00:02:08 ◼ ► counter-insurgency on the part of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/128">TS</a>]
00:02:13 ◼ ► it sells another other things that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/133">TS</a>]
00:02:17 ◼ ► so it's a counter insurgency against [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/137">TS</a>]
00:02:20 ◼ ► against the attack on your dark city [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/140">TS</a>]
00:02:23 ◼ ► that's right ok well who can talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/143">TS</a>]
00:02:26 ◼ ► this in a while but there's always I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/146">TS</a>]
00:02:30 ◼ ► I feel like we've left the door open to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/150">TS</a>]
00:02:32 ◼ ► the idea that in first of all let's take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/152">TS</a>]
00:02:35 ◼ ► it as read there's probably other stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/155">TS</a>]
00:02:36 ◼ ► out there in the universe you know right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/156">TS</a>]
00:02:39 ◼ ► there are some people who say well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/159">TS</a>]
00:02:40 ◼ ► obviously there's nothing else out there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/160">TS</a>]
00:02:41 ◼ ► in the universe are they already would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/161">TS</a>]
00:02:43 ◼ ► be here I don't have the logical skills [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/163">TS</a>]
00:02:44 ◼ ► to say whether that makes any sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/164">TS</a>]
00:02:46 ◼ ► I think we can also probably agree that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/166">TS</a>]
00:02:48 ◼ ► if there are people coming here they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/168">TS</a>]
00:02:52 ◼ ► sure people right why this is a product [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/172">TS</a>]
00:02:54 ◼ ► being stop being so safety and central [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/174">TS</a>]
00:02:57 ◼ ► normative yeah yeah it's like Star Trek [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/177">TS</a>]
00:02:59 ◼ ► you know you like a regular person but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/179">TS</a>]
00:03:01 ◼ ► they put some makeup on you i mean it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/181">TS</a>]
00:03:02 ◼ ► green it up in some weird here's exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/182">TS</a>]
00:03:06 ◼ ► well I think we can agree that you would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/186">TS</a>]
00:03:08 ◼ ► probably be the emissary that seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/188">TS</a>]
00:03:10 ◼ ► so what if it's not somebody in a shiny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/190">TS</a>]
00:03:17 ◼ ► what if what if you are being reached [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/197">TS</a>]
00:03:18 ◼ ► one of your dark city is being contacted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/198">TS</a>]
00:03:20 ◼ ► by these very attackers that you now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/200">TS</a>]
00:03:23 ◼ ► seek to repeal uh-huh so I'm saying what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/203">TS</a>]
00:03:26 ◼ ► if i'm not saying you should do this you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/206">TS</a>]
00:03:27 ◼ ► probably very busy right now but like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/207">TS</a>]
00:03:29 ◼ ► what if you opened yourself to the idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/209">TS</a>]
00:03:31 ◼ ► that could be some kind of a beatific [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/211">TS</a>]
00:03:33 ◼ ► experience happening here that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/213">TS</a>]
00:03:34 ◼ ► about illness it reads illness because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/214">TS</a>]
00:03:36 ◼ ► you know you've never been an emissary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/216">TS</a>]
00:03:38 ◼ ► as far as we know actually for what if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/218">TS</a>]
00:03:41 ◼ ► they're they're out there they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/221">TS</a>]
00:03:42 ◼ ► knocking on the door they say junk we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/222">TS</a>]
00:03:44 ◼ ► yeah sure they're saying this is how we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/224">TS</a>]
00:03:47 ◼ ► make contact this is how we we want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/227">TS</a>]
00:03:50 ◼ ► commune with you and right now your body [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/230">TS</a>]
00:03:53 ◼ ► is having up you know some kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/233">TS</a>]
00:03:55 ◼ ► fairly profound reaction but it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/235">TS</a>]
00:03:59 ◼ ► that your body doesn't know how to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/239">TS</a>]
00:04:01 ◼ ► interpret interstellar oh absolutely i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/241">TS</a>]
00:04:05 ◼ ► mean if it was one of its norm of benign [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/245">TS</a>]
00:04:07 ◼ ► galactic toxoplasmosis where first they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/247">TS</a>]
00:04:11 ◼ ► need to plant they need to plant some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/251">TS</a>]
00:04:12 ◼ ► ideas lets you sit around those ideas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/252">TS</a>]
00:04:14 ◼ ► for six weeks before they go to the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/254">TS</a>]
00:04:16 ◼ ► sure take a look at the star man to play [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/256">TS</a>]
00:04:25 ◼ ► long and yet these lyrics work em and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/265">TS</a>]
00:04:31 ◼ ► no I feel like that is that's why I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/271">TS</a>]
00:04:35 ◼ ► almost that's maybe my favorite David [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/275">TS</a>]
00:04:37 ◼ ► yeah I'm i feel like it may be a star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/277">TS</a>]
00:04:41 ◼ ► oh I'm what i want what i actually just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/281">TS</a>]
00:04:46 ◼ ► look at the actual lyric for later on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/286">TS</a>]
00:04:48 ◼ ► take a look at the Starman playing with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/288">TS</a>]
00:04:53 ◼ ► oh man look at that ding dong Garland [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/293">TS</a>]
00:04:57 ◼ ► and then the perpendicular show so is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/297">TS</a>]
00:05:03 ◼ ► there life in John mind and his nasal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/303">TS</a>]
00:05:09 ◼ ► I what I want is again I want two more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/309">TS</a>]
00:05:12 ◼ ► attacks on our fathers have you been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/312">TS</a>]
00:05:16 ◼ ► no you know i watch i don't wanna watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/316">TS</a>]
00:05:20 ◼ ► oh yeah what's the I don't want to watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/320">TS</a>]
00:05:22 ◼ ► the weird one especially not the later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/322">TS</a>]
00:05:24 ◼ ► weird was only seven hours long john at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/324">TS</a>]
00:05:26 ◼ ► seven hours long and it and it involves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/326">TS</a>]
00:05:28 ◼ ► a conspiracy to kill the pope and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/328">TS</a>]
00:05:31 ◼ ► no no no no they don't include that one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/331">TS</a>]
00:05:33 ◼ ► it's seven hours that right first two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/333">TS</a>]
00:05:35 ◼ ► movies yeah but your flight I think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/335">TS</a>]
00:05:38 ◼ ► oh yeah I don't want to see I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/338">TS</a>]
00:05:40 ◼ ► wanna see robert de niro appear halfway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/340">TS</a>]
00:05:43 ◼ ► yea Lord the beginning of the film what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/343">TS</a>]
00:05:46 ◼ ► understand it you know you're the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/346">TS</a>]
00:05:47 ◼ ► 1i saw your first concern you don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/347">TS</a>]
00:05:49 ◼ ► my coming on that bathroom with his dick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/349">TS</a>]
00:05:52 ◼ ► that's right the first one I saw in 1977 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/352">TS</a>]
00:05:55 ◼ ► or whatever they sat me down in front of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/355">TS</a>]
00:05:56 ◼ ► the television the same way in fifth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/356">TS</a>]
00:05:57 ◼ ► grade they handed me tale of two cities [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/357">TS</a>]
00:06:00 ◼ ► here read tale of two cities it was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/360">TS</a>]
00:06:03 ◼ ► a ok and then and it was one of it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/363">TS</a>]
00:06:05 ◼ ► like it was like they was like a dare [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/365">TS</a>]
00:06:07 ◼ ► write it was like oh you're a smart kid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/367">TS</a>]
00:06:10 ◼ ► go for it read tale of two cities and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/370">TS</a>]
00:06:13 ◼ ► was like i'm sure i've never heard of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/373">TS</a>]
00:06:15 ◼ ► the French Revolution but yes all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/375">TS</a>]
00:06:16 ◼ ► I can do this and I'd and I did it like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/376">TS</a>]
00:06:19 ◼ ► like like you would say here could climb [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/379">TS</a>]
00:06:22 ◼ ► the climb this ladder did it was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/382">TS</a>]
00:06:23 ◼ ► eating your piece you did the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/383">TS</a>]
00:06:25 ◼ ► thing i did the whole thing that I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/385">TS</a>]
00:06:27 ◼ ► and had no actual comprehension of what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/387">TS</a>]
00:06:29 ◼ ► I was doing but when they asked me about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/389">TS</a>]
00:06:31 ◼ ► i'm talking about the people in schools [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/391">TS</a>]
00:06:33 ◼ ► yeah when they when they require that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/393">TS</a>]
00:06:34 ◼ ► read a book report about it because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/394">TS</a>]
00:06:36 ◼ ► because they didn't because obviously I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/396">TS</a>]
00:06:38 ◼ ► wasn't going to read watership down our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/398">TS</a>]
00:06:40 ◼ ► with the rest of the class right and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/400">TS</a>]
00:06:44 ◼ ► so they were like oh you know here's it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/404">TS</a>]
00:06:46 ◼ ► this is what we this is the Honors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/406">TS</a>]
00:06:47 ◼ ► Program read moby-dick image of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/407">TS</a>]
00:06:51 ◼ ► things I just those things and then I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/411">TS</a>]
00:06:53 ◼ ► was required to to report to them report [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/413">TS</a>]
00:06:55 ◼ ► to adults who who my I even at the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/415">TS</a>]
00:06:58 ◼ ► I thought had not read those books and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/418">TS</a>]
00:07:02 ◼ ► didn't know what I had read but I gave a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/422">TS</a>]
00:07:07 ◼ ► the problem was that that because it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/427">TS</a>]
00:07:09 ◼ ► a dare I couldn't say that I didn't get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/429">TS</a>]
00:07:12 ◼ ► them because then the adults would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/432">TS</a>]
00:07:14 ◼ ► disappointed in me and then I wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/434">TS</a>]
00:07:16 ◼ ► be a genius so what's the worst of times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/436">TS</a>]
00:07:18 ◼ ► and the worst of times that's right you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/438">TS</a>]
00:07:20 ◼ ► know he says he can't win you can't win [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/440">TS</a>]
00:07:24 ◼ ► yeah the dickens wrote Taylor two cities [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/444">TS</a>]
00:07:29 ◼ ► it's a it's it all it all tells the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/449">TS</a>]
00:07:31 ◼ ► story but basically a white whale fights [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/451">TS</a>]
00:07:36 ◼ ► uh-huh against a like some kind of Sun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/456">TS</a>]
00:07:40 ◼ ► King right that was later turned into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/460">TS</a>]
00:07:42 ◼ ► the the plane name is Rob hmm that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/462">TS</a>]
00:07:46 ◼ ► right exactly what lame is rob and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/466">TS</a>]
00:07:48 ◼ ► then there are helicopters that come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/468">TS</a>]
00:07:50 ◼ ► down and there's some kind of Vietnam [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/470">TS</a>]
00:07:52 ◼ ► and like allegory where he goes up a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/472">TS</a>]
00:07:55 ◼ ► river so it's it's this little King goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/475">TS</a>]
00:07:58 ◼ ► up a river find a white whale yep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/478">TS</a>]
00:07:59 ◼ ► battles with himself chasing for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/479">TS</a>]
00:08:02 ◼ ► rest of his life whales like you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/482">TS</a>]
00:08:04 ◼ ► never change and in any case the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/484">TS</a>]
00:08:10 ◼ ► time I saw the Godfather i was i was so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/490">TS</a>]
00:08:13 ◼ ► I was saturday down in front of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/493">TS</a>]
00:08:15 ◼ ► television an enormous television that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/495">TS</a>]
00:08:17 ◼ ► also had a record player in it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/497">TS</a>]
00:08:20 ◼ ► people said this is an important film [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/500">TS</a>]
00:08:22 ◼ ► and you need to watch it and then they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/502">TS</a>]
00:08:24 ◼ ► left right they didn't want to watch it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/504">TS</a>]
00:08:26 ◼ ► they went upstairs on that's right to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/506">TS</a>]
00:08:29 ◼ ► yeah yeah and they're like this is for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/509">TS</a>]
00:08:31 ◼ ► you now you are we are we are we are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/511">TS</a>]
00:08:34 ◼ ► punching your card we are giving you an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/514">TS</a>]
00:08:36 ◼ ► adult ID and it involves watching the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/516">TS</a>]
00:08:39 ◼ ► godfather so i sat in front of it again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/519">TS</a>]
00:08:41 ◼ ► on comprehending wanting to watch happy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/521">TS</a>]
00:08:46 ◼ ► wanting to be a normal kid forced to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/526">TS</a>]
00:08:49 ◼ ► watch this in this long confusing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/529">TS</a>]
00:08:51 ◼ ► slow-moving a film where they had edited [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/531">TS</a>]
00:08:56 ◼ ► out all the parts where people died for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/536">TS</a>]
00:08:58 ◼ ► all the all the blood and guts huh so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/538">TS</a>]
00:09:01 ◼ ► it's just what is this montage with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/541">TS</a>]
00:09:04 ◼ ► with the baptism of the baby and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/544">TS</a>]
00:09:06 ◼ ► people walking in and out of barbershops [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/546">TS</a>]
00:09:08 ◼ ► you know what's at emergency haircuts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/548">TS</a>]
00:09:11 ◼ ► the tonka I don't get this at all man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/551">TS</a>]
00:09:14 ◼ ► and i'm not going to use revolving doors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/554">TS</a>]
00:09:16 ◼ ► anymore so I that's right i'm never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/556">TS</a>]
00:09:20 ◼ ► gonna come down the steps of a federal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/560">TS</a>]
00:09:21 ◼ ► courthouse every time I get to make it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/561">TS</a>]
00:09:24 ◼ ► Oh somebody's writing a ticket I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/564">TS</a>]
00:09:26 ◼ ► getting out of here get out so yeah so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/566">TS</a>]
00:09:31 ◼ ► was miserable and then later later on I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/571">TS</a>]
00:09:34 ◼ ► I don't even remember how I reintroduce [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/574">TS</a>]
00:09:36 ◼ ► myself to it but maybe it was I get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/576">TS</a>]
00:09:41 ◼ ► yeah and you know now of course I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/581">TS</a>]
00:09:44 ◼ ► seen a 25 times also you know movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/584">TS</a>]
00:09:47 ◼ ► movies used to be shorter interesting i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/587">TS</a>]
00:09:52 ◼ ► think the deer hunter disproves that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/592">TS</a>]
00:09:54 ◼ ► well but before the nineteen seventies I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/594">TS</a>]
00:09:58 ◼ ► what did you know it's funny thing about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/598">TS</a>]
00:09:59 ◼ ► this there's so much that comes washing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/599">TS</a>]
00:10:01 ◼ ► over me now that I still love movies and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/601">TS</a>]
00:10:04 ◼ ► have a kid and I like watching movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/604">TS</a>]
00:10:06 ◼ ► but like there's there's so much to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/606">TS</a>]
00:10:07 ◼ ► think about where like and I actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/607">TS</a>]
00:10:10 ◼ ► like it was asking me about she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/610">TS</a>]
00:10:11 ◼ ► looking for maximum posters yesterday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/611">TS</a>]
00:10:12 ◼ ► and saying what is the comics code [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/612">TS</a>]
00:10:14 ◼ ► how could she miss your excellent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/614">TS</a>]
00:10:16 ◼ ► posters from have five of them here in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/616">TS</a>]
00:10:17 ◼ ► the office and choosing what is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/617">TS</a>]
00:10:18 ◼ ► comics code she's seen this on old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/618">TS</a>]
00:10:20 ◼ ► comics and I did the best I could with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/620">TS</a>]
00:10:22 ◼ ► my meager understanding of it to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/622">TS</a>]
00:10:24 ◼ ► well you know there is this before i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/624">TS</a>]
00:10:26 ◼ ► born there was a controversy kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/626">TS</a>]
00:10:29 ◼ ► built up out of almost nothing about how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/629">TS</a>]
00:10:32 ◼ ► basically comic books were damaging kids [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/632">TS</a>]
00:10:36 ◼ ► I couldn't tell her all the things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/636">TS</a>]
00:10:37 ◼ ► you know they were worried about you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/637">TS</a>]
00:10:39 ◼ ► know there's a sexy things but I said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/639">TS</a>]
00:10:40 ◼ ► like for example you could have zombies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/640">TS</a>]
00:10:42 ◼ ► in comic books anymore was one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/642">TS</a>]
00:10:44 ◼ ► things there's some kind of this part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/644">TS</a>]
00:10:47 ◼ ► well there's this book that came out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/647">TS</a>]
00:10:48 ◼ ► the name is Casey there's a book that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/648">TS</a>]
00:10:50 ◼ ► came out in the mid-fifties by this this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/650">TS</a>]
00:10:52 ◼ ► demagogue who basically was saying the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/652">TS</a>]
00:10:55 ◼ ► comics are destroying our children [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/655">TS</a>]
00:10:58 ◼ ► and.and mainly i think going after or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/658">TS</a>]
00:11:01 ◼ ► sort of email there's a time when war [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/661">TS</a>]
00:11:04 ◼ ► comics and especially crime comics were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/664">TS</a>]
00:11:06 ◼ ► popular but another huge onra was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/666">TS</a>]
00:11:08 ◼ ► the tales of the crypts at the ec comics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/668">TS</a>]
00:11:10 ◼ ► those wonderful nomics about you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/670">TS</a>]
00:11:11 ◼ ► gory stuff you know I loved those those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/671">TS</a>]
00:11:14 ◼ ► are fans those are those first of all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/674">TS</a>]
00:11:16 ◼ ► they're beautiful they still stand the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/676">TS</a>]
00:11:18 ◼ ► test of time they look fantastic but no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/678">TS</a>]
00:11:20 ◼ ► comments code was a way of saying it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/680">TS</a>]
00:11:21 ◼ ► kind of like the PMRC in the eighties [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/681">TS</a>]
00:11:24 ◼ ► when they said look either you can let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/684">TS</a>]
00:11:25 ◼ ► us do this and will just shut you down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/685">TS</a>]
00:11:27 ◼ ► or you can find some way to placate us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/687">TS</a>]
00:11:29 ◼ ► by uh you know patrolling yourselves and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/689">TS</a>]
00:11:32 ◼ ► so there was this i'll try to find it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/692">TS</a>]
00:11:34 ◼ ► send it to you later but there is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/694">TS</a>]
00:11:36 ◼ ► you know crazy listing stuff he just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/696">TS</a>]
00:11:37 ◼ ► couldn't do in comics anymore including [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/697">TS</a>]
00:11:41 ◼ ► challenging Authority they're worth over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/701">TS</a>]
00:11:43 ◼ ► like you couldn't you couldn't do stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/703">TS</a>]
00:11:45 ◼ ► like you couldn't I think you weren't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/705">TS</a>]
00:11:46 ◼ ► allowed to insult heads of state and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/706">TS</a>]
00:11:49 ◼ ► things like that there's all this crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/709">TS</a>]
00:11:51 ◼ ► one of those like omnibus bills kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/711">TS</a>]
00:11:53 ◼ ► things and it you know it's what make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/713">TS</a>]
00:11:55 ◼ ► comics kind of lame for a while and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/715">TS</a>]
00:11:56 ◼ ► wasn't until the seventies that really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/716">TS</a>]
00:12:00 ◼ ► do you remember anymore now that i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/720">TS</a>]
00:12:01 ◼ ► about that it seems like whenever a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/721">TS</a>]
00:12:04 ◼ ► president or a you know exactly as you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/724">TS</a>]
00:12:10 ◼ ► say a head of state or even that even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/730">TS</a>]
00:12:13 ◼ ► like ahead of business showed up in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/733">TS</a>]
00:12:16 ◼ ► comic it was always it was always like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/736">TS</a>]
00:12:19 ◼ ► sort of a weird hero that didn't that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/739">TS</a>]
00:12:23 ◼ ► you wish would go away as fast as he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/743">TS</a>]
00:12:25 ◼ ► could like hey its president reagan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/745">TS</a>]
00:12:28 ◼ ► hello there Superman usually usually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/748">TS</a>]
00:12:31 ◼ ► Avengers with david letterman in it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/751">TS</a>]
00:12:34 ◼ ► uh-huh under the Avengers but there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/754">TS</a>]
00:12:37 ◼ ► definitely kind of course famously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/757">TS</a>]
00:12:39 ◼ ► captain america who was always punching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/759">TS</a>]
00:12:42 ◼ ► Hitler in the face that was kinda cool i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/762">TS</a>]
00:12:44 ◼ ► guess that would you could get a pass on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/764">TS</a>]
00:12:45 ◼ ► punching her in the face I mean then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/765">TS</a>]
00:12:48 ◼ ► Quentin Tarantino really really took [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/768">TS</a>]
00:12:50 ◼ ► that all the way he reinterpreted with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/770">TS</a>]
00:12:53 ◼ ► that japanese girls with swords hear ya [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/773">TS</a>]
00:12:55 ◼ ► to ya cut off Hitler but but that my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/775">TS</a>]
00:12:58 ◼ ► favorite got go ahead not only concern [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/778">TS</a>]
00:13:00 ◼ ► was that the bridge here is that there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/780">TS</a>]
00:13:02 ◼ ► was a time where i guess it was believed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/782">TS</a>]
00:13:05 ◼ ► that in certain kinds of media you had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/785">TS</a>]
00:13:07 ◼ ► to create media that would be utterly in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/787">TS</a>]
00:13:09 ◼ ► offensive to anyone including like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/789">TS</a>]
00:13:11 ◼ ► toddler this before the idea of like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/791">TS</a>]
00:13:14 ◼ ► rating system came along in movies and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/794">TS</a>]
00:13:15 ◼ ► so you know there would be this you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/795">TS</a>]
00:13:18 ◼ ► double entendre and stuff like that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/798">TS</a>]
00:13:19 ◼ ► you could go to a movie theater and with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/799">TS</a>]
00:13:22 ◼ ► your kid and see pretty much any movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/802">TS</a>]
00:13:25 ◼ ► it might not be interesting to that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/805">TS</a>]
00:13:26 ◼ ► child but there would be nothing in it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/806">TS</a>]
00:13:28 ◼ ► that was you know horrific that wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/808">TS</a>]
00:13:29 ◼ ► until whatever was a mini cowboy was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/809">TS</a>]
00:13:31 ◼ ► first x-rated famous x-rated film the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/811">TS</a>]
00:13:33 ◼ ► the rating system came along I think in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/813">TS</a>]
00:13:35 ◼ ► the late sixties and with similar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/815">TS</a>]
00:13:37 ◼ ► concerns you know do you know do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/817">TS</a>]
00:13:39 ◼ ► know that my mom now that you're saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/819">TS</a>]
00:13:41 ◼ ► this my mom sent me down again right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/821">TS</a>]
00:13:43 ◼ ► about the time of the right about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/823">TS</a>]
00:13:46 ◼ ► moby-dick and watch the godfather this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/826">TS</a>]
00:13:48 ◼ ► she said she was watching a film with me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/828">TS</a>]
00:13:51 ◼ ► and she said that right there is a code [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/831">TS</a>]
00:13:55 ◼ ► for them having sex haha like leaned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/835">TS</a>]
00:13:59 ◼ ► over and said that and I was like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/839">TS</a>]
00:14:01 ◼ ► what how what like she's on the floor or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/841">TS</a>]
00:14:03 ◼ ► something i had missed it and it was was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/843">TS</a>]
00:14:06 ◼ ► uh you know it was like for some from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/846">TS</a>]
00:14:09 ◼ ► here to eternity movie where they they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/849">TS</a>]
00:14:12 ◼ ► were kissing and then the camera turns [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/852">TS</a>]
00:14:14 ◼ ► away camera panned away and there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/854">TS</a>]
00:14:16 ◼ ► there were waves washing on the beach [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/856">TS</a>]
00:14:18 ◼ ► right or it was or you know that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/858">TS</a>]
00:14:22 ◼ ► locomotive going into a tunnel or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/862">TS</a>]
00:14:23 ◼ ► whatever it was and it was a man making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/863">TS</a>]
00:14:28 ◼ ► a ring with his left hand and putting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/868">TS</a>]
00:14:30 ◼ ► the forefinger from his right hand into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/870">TS</a>]
00:14:32 ◼ ► it and out of it repeatedly and and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/872">TS</a>]
00:14:35 ◼ ► and as a you know as an eight-year-old I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/875">TS</a>]
00:14:40 ◼ ► I thought that they were I thought that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/880">TS</a>]
00:14:41 ◼ ► they liked each other very much our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/881">TS</a>]
00:14:43 ◼ ► kissing and then it would then we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/883">TS</a>]
00:14:44 ◼ ► segue into another scene and my mom was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/884">TS</a>]
00:14:46 ◼ ► like that's a code for having sex and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/886">TS</a>]
00:14:50 ◼ ► was embarrassed of course we're because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/890">TS</a>]
00:14:51 ◼ ► whenever anybody talks about sex that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/891">TS</a>]
00:14:53 ◼ ► was embarrassing yes but i was curious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/893">TS</a>]
00:14:55 ◼ ► about it right like what is this what is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/895">TS</a>]
00:14:57 ◼ ► this code it's a and so somehow we got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/897">TS</a>]
00:15:00 ◼ ► into a conversation about and I think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/900">TS</a>]
00:15:02 ◼ ► was that she probably brought it up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/902">TS</a>]
00:15:05 ◼ ► again and said look in movies when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/905">TS</a>]
00:15:07 ◼ ► people are having sex they can't make an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/907">TS</a>]
00:15:12 ◼ ► over reference to it so there are all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/912">TS</a>]
00:15:14 ◼ ► these ways hear you're nine ten eleven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/914">TS</a>]
00:15:21 ◼ ► my hand and so then i was i was curious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/921">TS</a>]
00:15:26 ◼ ► about every aspect of that but people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/926">TS</a>]
00:15:29 ◼ ► having sex first of all and then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/929">TS</a>]
00:15:32 ◼ ► know what she's like they can't show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/932">TS</a>]
00:15:33 ◼ ► tongue kissing you ever notice that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/933">TS</a>]
00:15:37 ◼ ► passionately kissing but it's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/937">TS</a>]
00:15:38 ◼ ► like it's kind of like that seen a kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/938">TS</a>]
00:15:41 ◼ ► of like something from animal house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/941">TS</a>]
00:15:43 ◼ ► where the guy puts his hand up over her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/943">TS</a>]
00:15:44 ◼ ► mouth and starts passionately kissing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/944">TS</a>]
00:15:47 ◼ ► yeah like the passionate kisses are are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/947">TS</a>]
00:15:51 ◼ ► are still very chasing she chased and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/951">TS</a>]
00:15:54 ◼ ► she she was like that's not how people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/954">TS</a>]
00:15:56 ◼ ► actually kiss when they're about to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/956">TS</a>]
00:15:58 ◼ ► love that is fake be ready at this point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/958">TS</a>]
00:16:02 ◼ ► yeah because that's that is in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/962">TS</a>]
00:16:04 ◼ ► movies and I'm like how do people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/964">TS</a>]
00:16:05 ◼ ► actually kiss and she's like well they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/965">TS</a>]
00:16:07 ◼ ► slobber all over each other their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/967">TS</a>]
00:16:08 ◼ ► tongues and it's been there and snot is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/968">TS</a>]
00:16:11 ◼ ► coming out of her nose it's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/971">TS</a>]
00:16:12 ◼ ► horrific i was like ok all right ok [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/972">TS</a>]
00:16:15 ◼ ► because you know my mom a my parents [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/975">TS</a>]
00:16:19 ◼ ► were married anymore and be uh they both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/979">TS</a>]
00:16:23 ◼ ► kept their affection for their friends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/983">TS</a>]
00:16:27 ◼ ► if you will completely out of public eye [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/987">TS</a>]
00:16:31 ◼ ► right if my mom was kissing someone and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/991">TS</a>]
00:16:33 ◼ ► I walked in the room the kissing stopped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/993">TS</a>]
00:16:35 ◼ ► and everyone you know everyone clasp [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/995">TS</a>]
00:16:39 ◼ ► their hands in their laps and said so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/999">TS</a>]
00:16:41 ◼ ► anyway we're talking about Moby Dick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1001">TS</a>]
00:16:44 ◼ ► uh-huh and so I never said I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1004">TS</a>]
00:16:46 ◼ ► really see it you know it was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1006">TS</a>]
00:16:47 ◼ ► seventies people were slobbering over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1007">TS</a>]
00:16:49 ◼ ► each other big big ways but i didn't i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1009">TS</a>]
00:16:52 ◼ ► didn't have a lot of first-hand exposure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1012">TS</a>]
00:16:54 ◼ ► to it so it's like what are they but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1014">TS</a>]
00:16:55 ◼ ► people do what now a train goes into a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1015">TS</a>]
00:16:58 ◼ ► yeah i mean i understood that the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1018">TS</a>]
00:17:01 ◼ ► mathematics of sex but i think those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1021">TS</a>]
00:17:06 ◼ ► codes really did a job on us it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1026">TS</a>]
00:17:07 ◼ ► we never see dead bodies i mean the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1027">TS</a>]
00:17:10 ◼ ► movies we do but we never see him in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1030">TS</a>]
00:17:12 ◼ ► um yeah i've been at last few months I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1032">TS</a>]
00:17:16 ◼ ► guess I've been really struggling with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1036">TS</a>]
00:17:20 ◼ ► Shh I wish she had a chance to to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1040">TS</a>]
00:17:22 ◼ ► interviewed about her understanding of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1042">TS</a>]
00:17:24 ◼ ► these things i think i'll be extremely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1044">TS</a>]
00:17:25 ◼ ► interesting very very different from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1045">TS</a>]
00:17:28 ◼ ► understanding of an eight-year-old in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1048">TS</a>]
00:17:30 ◼ ► the 50 60 70 is a tease i bet it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1050">TS</a>]
00:17:32 ◼ ► different in every era with him i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1052">TS</a>]
00:17:34 ◼ ► willing to conduct those interviews if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1054">TS</a>]
00:17:37 ◼ ► let's go on that yeah i would need me to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1057">TS</a>]
00:17:39 ◼ ► get a grant from the robert wood johnson [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1059">TS</a>]
00:17:40 ◼ ► foundation to help out but you know but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1060">TS</a>]
00:17:42 ◼ ► you know if you think about again think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1062">TS</a>]
00:17:44 ◼ ► about in the eighties when or if I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1064">TS</a>]
00:17:47 ◼ ► asking about the seventies think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1067">TS</a>]
00:17:48 ◼ ► how much that's basically all i do I you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1068">TS</a>]
00:17:51 ◼ ► know I know but think about how much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1071">TS</a>]
00:17:52 ◼ ► like straight-up murder was on TV oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1072">TS</a>]
00:17:55 ◼ ► yeah right there was a lot of Kodiak on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1075">TS</a>]
00:17:58 ◼ ► Kojak Chicago bang you start thinking a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1078">TS</a>]
00:18:00 ◼ ► lot about like all there was there so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1080">TS</a>]
00:18:02 ◼ ► much just people getting killed on TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1082">TS</a>]
00:18:05 ◼ ► and so you know the conventional wisdom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1085">TS</a>]
00:18:07 ◼ ► over the years became that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1087">TS</a>]
00:18:08 ◼ ► Europeans thinks think it's so weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1088">TS</a>]
00:18:11 ◼ ► that we have so much murder on TV and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1091">TS</a>]
00:18:13 ◼ ► little like genuine like affectionate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1093">TS</a>]
00:18:15 ◼ ► sex and the kind of vice versa so we get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1095">TS</a>]
00:18:17 ◼ ► one of those British imports where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1097">TS</a>]
00:18:18 ◼ ► there's no shooting booby since like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1098">TS</a>]
00:18:20 ◼ ► know you know how Britannia sure but no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1100">TS</a>]
00:18:22 ◼ ► no never let the little bit let carry on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1102">TS</a>]
00:18:26 ◼ ► Benny Hill but at the reason I say that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1106">TS</a>]
00:18:29 ◼ ► is that i don't see too much here but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1109">TS</a>]
00:18:31 ◼ ► you know my ear but for example like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1111">TS</a>]
00:18:33 ◼ ► there are times when you need a bridge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1113">TS</a>]
00:18:35 ◼ ► to explain something about what's going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1115">TS</a>]
00:18:38 ◼ ► on in the past like we were the camera [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1118">TS</a>]
00:18:41 ◼ ► pans away and it shows us a train tunnel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1121">TS</a>]
00:18:44 ◼ ► no it's a picture of a bridge camera [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1124">TS</a>]
00:18:46 ◼ ► pans away and it's like oh this is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1126">TS</a>]
00:18:48 ◼ ► is a real segue it's actually a bridge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1128">TS</a>]
00:18:51 ◼ ► the first time that's actually that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1131">TS</a>]
00:18:52 ◼ ► part of the movie honey of the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1132">TS</a>]
00:18:54 ◼ ► time I ever said this I already knew i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1134">TS</a>]
00:18:56 ◼ ► was going down a path that I would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1136">TS</a>]
00:18:57 ◼ ► to walk back at some point but at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1137">TS</a>]
00:18:59 ◼ ► the term became kissing like okay so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1139">TS</a>]
00:19:03 ◼ ► that's you know and that could be a way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1143">TS</a>]
00:19:04 ◼ ► of explaining that one yeah here's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1144">TS</a>]
00:19:06 ◼ ► it means to be gay what it means to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1146">TS</a>]
00:19:07 ◼ ► gay is that you like kissing people that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1147">TS</a>]
00:19:10 ◼ ► the same gender is you and like she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1150">TS</a>]
00:19:12 ◼ ► ridiculously open-minded about that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1152">TS</a>]
00:19:15 ◼ ► it's really cool like she thinks it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1155">TS</a>]
00:19:18 ◼ ► really weird that you're not allowed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1158">TS</a>]
00:19:19 ◼ ► do what you want with who you want but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1159">TS</a>]
00:19:21 ◼ ► you know kissing so but at some point at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1161">TS</a>]
00:19:24 ◼ ► that's going to start really breaking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1164">TS</a>]
00:19:26 ◼ ► down as the way of explaining this this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1166">TS</a>]
00:19:28 ◼ ► as a shorthand heuristic this whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1168">TS</a>]
00:19:31 ◼ ► class of things that are actually much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1171">TS</a>]
00:19:33 ◼ ► kissing mmm raise your leg yeah and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1173">TS</a>]
00:19:36 ◼ ► it will be watching something that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1176">TS</a>]
00:19:37 ◼ ► little bit you know PG pg-13 and and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1177">TS</a>]
00:19:41 ◼ ► it really pushes the bounds of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1181">TS</a>]
00:19:43 ◼ ► analogy or my metonymy i guess for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1183">TS</a>]
00:19:46 ◼ ► explaining what's happening so I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1186">TS</a>]
00:19:48 ◼ ► looking forward to the day where i am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1188">TS</a>]
00:19:50 ◼ ► not worried so much about having to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1190">TS</a>]
00:19:51 ◼ ► explain the actual real-world mechanics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1191">TS</a>]
00:19:53 ◼ ► but like we're going to go rewatch a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1193">TS</a>]
00:19:55 ◼ ► of things and go that really wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1195">TS</a>]
00:19:56 ◼ ► kissing one yeah i'm gonna start i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1196">TS</a>]
00:19:59 ◼ ► gonna start referring to sex as beyond [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1199">TS</a>]
00:20:02 ◼ ► kissing and I think that that's gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1202">TS</a>]
00:20:05 ◼ ► actually improve my life and a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1205">TS</a>]
00:20:07 ◼ ► ways just be like are you how are we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1207">TS</a>]
00:20:11 ◼ ► I love you I'm when it's like looking at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1211">TS</a>]
00:20:14 ◼ ► a pretty terrible time for the ratings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1214">TS</a>]
00:20:17 ◼ ► the mpaa rating system at this point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1217">TS</a>]
00:20:18 ◼ ► because she wasn't talking about movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1218">TS</a>]
00:20:21 ◼ ► anymore i was just talking about in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1221">TS</a>]
00:20:23 ◼ ► personal life although i think it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1223">TS</a>]
00:20:24 ◼ ► terrific idea would you like to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1224">TS</a>]
00:20:25 ◼ ► beyond kissing with me or just hurt just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1225">TS</a>]
00:20:29 ◼ ► yes you started kissing the back your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1229">TS</a>]
00:20:30 ◼ ► hand like I show you what i'm doing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1230">TS</a>]
00:20:32 ◼ ► going back throughout my entire life and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1232">TS</a>]
00:20:34 ◼ ► inserting beyond kissing into every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1234">TS</a>]
00:20:37 ◼ ► instance where I've used the word sex [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1237">TS</a>]
00:20:42 ◼ ► mmm retro actively and i would love to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1242">TS</a>]
00:20:44 ◼ ► have some beyond kissing with he that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1244">TS</a>]
00:20:47 ◼ ► how I'm going to remember my life I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1247">TS</a>]
00:20:48 ◼ ► would like to go back for a second into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1248">TS</a>]
00:20:50 ◼ ► this podcast and comment that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1250">TS</a>]
00:20:52 ◼ ► earlier just a few moments ago you and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1252">TS</a>]
00:20:54 ◼ ► both said you go ahead simultaneously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1254">TS</a>]
00:20:58 ◼ ► yeah and I don't think that's ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1258">TS</a>]
00:20:59 ◼ ► happened before I think that was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1259">TS</a>]
00:21:01 ◼ ► first time it happened probably three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1261">TS</a>]
00:21:02 ◼ ► no no really you go ahead I don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1262">TS</a>]
00:21:05 ◼ ► to interrupt your man interrupted by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1265">TS</a>]
00:21:07 ◼ ► nature and I try not to do that on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1267">TS</a>]
00:21:08 ◼ ► show but i but I feel like I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1268">TS</a>]
00:21:11 ◼ ► it's the first time we both ever said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1271">TS</a>]
00:21:13 ◼ ► you can get the same time you go ahead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1273">TS</a>]
00:21:16 ◼ ► no you go ahead but we didn't but it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1276">TS</a>]
00:21:17 ◼ ► simultaneous yeah you go ahead we both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1277">TS</a>]
00:21:20 ◼ ► one of the other two go ahead and he had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1280">TS</a>]
00:21:23 ◼ ► jammed up in a revolving door if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1283">TS</a>]
00:21:24 ◼ ► actually all boy and somebody shot us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1284">TS</a>]
00:21:26 ◼ ► both oh I still think about that every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1286">TS</a>]
00:21:28 ◼ ► time I go through my daughter of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1288">TS</a>]
00:21:30 ◼ ► is a child she loves a revolving door [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1290">TS</a>]
00:21:31 ◼ ► I don't like going through a revolving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1291">TS</a>]
00:21:32 ◼ ► door and wait for somebody to lock it up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1292">TS</a>]
00:21:34 ◼ ► and then i will ichi you know give it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1294">TS</a>]
00:21:36 ◼ ► me this is but but you're screwing up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1296">TS</a>]
00:21:38 ◼ ► the kind climate control and all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1298">TS</a>]
00:21:40 ◼ ► hotels and office buildings you open [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1300">TS</a>]
00:21:42 ◼ ► that side door and the whole climate of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1302">TS</a>]
00:21:44 ◼ ► the building goes racing out like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1304">TS</a>]
00:21:46 ◼ ► like ghostbusters yeah all its just 70 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1306">TS</a>]
00:21:49 ◼ ► different climates all running out with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1309">TS</a>]
00:21:51 ◼ ► hot dogs in their mouths and then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1311">TS</a>]
00:21:53 ◼ ► are you fucked it all up whereas if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1313">TS</a>]
00:21:56 ◼ ► go through the revolving door it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1316">TS</a>]
00:21:58 ◼ ► one little climate little climate m.d do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1318">TS</a>]
00:22:02 ◼ ► you use a revolving door that seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1322">TS</a>]
00:22:03 ◼ ► antithetical to a lot of your training [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1323">TS</a>]
00:22:06 ◼ ► yeah the only time i actually use the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1326">TS</a>]
00:22:07 ◼ ► revolving doors if somebody's going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1327">TS</a>]
00:22:09 ◼ ► through ahead of me that I know and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1329">TS</a>]
00:22:12 ◼ ► as the revolving doors halfway through I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1332">TS</a>]
00:22:13 ◼ ► stick my foot in it and then it stops on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1333">TS</a>]
00:22:15 ◼ ► the person slamming into the glass and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1335">TS</a>]
00:22:17 ◼ ► it's one of my favorite bags and I do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1337">TS</a>]
00:22:19 ◼ ► all but I do it all the time and a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1339">TS</a>]
00:22:20 ◼ ► of my friends know I'm gonna do it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1340">TS</a>]
00:22:22 ◼ ► then they forget because they get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1342">TS</a>]
00:22:23 ◼ ► excited about going through a revolving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1343">TS</a>]
00:22:24 ◼ ► shot everybody does their they see it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1344">TS</a>]
00:22:26 ◼ ► coming and they're like here we go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1346">TS</a>]
00:22:28 ◼ ► and then I gem my foot in it and make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1348">TS</a>]
00:22:31 ◼ ► slam into the class and it just like i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1351">TS</a>]
00:22:33 ◼ ► love it over and over and over that gag [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1353">TS</a>]
00:22:36 ◼ ► do you renounce Satan and renown saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1356">TS</a>]
00:22:40 ◼ ► WOW phone a lot of the times I'll slam [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1360">TS</a>]
00:22:44 ◼ ► revolving door into them and then i'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1364">TS</a>]
00:22:47 ◼ ► going-to-the-sun happens or friends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1367">TS</a>]
00:22:51 ◼ ► always a little surprise around every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1371">TS</a>]
00:22:53 ◼ ► that's right that is the kind of see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1373">TS</a>]
00:22:55 ◼ ► that's the kind of thing that's why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1375">TS</a>]
00:22:58 ◼ ► yeah but it doesn't really it's nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1378">TS</a>]
00:23:00 ◼ ► about that is bad LOL still survive that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1380">TS</a>]
00:23:04 ◼ ► they didn't do anything wrong it's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1384">TS</a>]
00:23:06 ◼ ► it's me it's on it's on me but it's also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1386">TS</a>]
00:23:09 ◼ ► it's small and it's just putting a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1389">TS</a>]
00:23:11 ◼ ► little bit of joy into everybody's life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1391">TS</a>]
00:23:14 ◼ ► yeah that's so nice you do that yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1394">TS</a>]
00:23:17 ◼ ► Beefeater who's standing outside hailing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1397">TS</a>]
00:23:19 ◼ ► cabs for you proof he uh he laughs too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1399">TS</a>]
00:23:23 ◼ ► and we all laugh a scene at all who that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1403">TS</a>]
00:23:26 ◼ ► guys seen it all anyway sorry interested [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1406">TS</a>]
00:23:28 ◼ ► he's he's he's he's working for her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1408">TS</a>]
00:23:31 ◼ ► right next to a giant poster of himself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1411">TS</a>]
00:23:33 ◼ ► imagine that he's getting his idea of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1413">TS</a>]
00:23:35 ◼ ► getting dressed for work is so different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1415">TS</a>]
00:23:37 ◼ ► than my idea of getting dressed for work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1417">TS</a>]
00:23:39 ◼ ► better if we had the dresses beefeaters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1419">TS</a>]
00:23:43 ◼ ► revolutionary war a minute man and he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1423">TS</a>]
00:23:47 ◼ ► helping kevin costner into into a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1427">TS</a>]
00:23:50 ◼ ► bed-and-breakfast but he's going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1430">TS</a>]
00:23:52 ◼ ► remember he's going to remember his face [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1432">TS</a>]
00:23:54 ◼ ► and he's going to get walk around the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1434">TS</a>]
00:23:55 ◼ ► Pentagon trying to see him and kevin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1435">TS</a>]
00:23:59 ◼ ► bathrooms it's this is part of this part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1439">TS</a>]
00:24:01 ◼ ► of the job huh yeah yeah ratings are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1441">TS</a>]
00:24:08 ◼ ► complicated complicated stuff you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1448">TS</a>]
00:24:11 ◼ ► who was that I hate the segway I hate to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1451">TS</a>]
00:24:14 ◼ ► not stay also what I want to come back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1454">TS</a>]
00:24:16 ◼ ► to i might be taking some point go ahead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1456">TS</a>]
00:24:18 ◼ ► okay I hate to paint across the bridge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1458">TS</a>]
00:24:19 ◼ ► who but uh I have two dongles now 102 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1459">TS</a>]
00:24:26 ◼ ► dongles have two dogs i used to have I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1466">TS</a>]
00:24:28 ◼ ► step one key if you recall once upon a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1468">TS</a>]
00:24:32 ◼ ► time I had one key my life was simple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1472">TS</a>]
00:24:35 ◼ ► yeah and then i had more keys and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1475">TS</a>]
00:24:37 ◼ ► more and then more and then i gotta donk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1477">TS</a>]
00:24:40 ◼ ► all I didn't want a dongle screwed up my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1480">TS</a>]
00:24:44 ◼ ► I've got to Donal's this is the this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1484">TS</a>]
00:24:49 ◼ ► one have a ring dongles no keys a dongle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1489">TS</a>]
00:24:53 ◼ ► dongle is it one of those it gives you a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1493">TS</a>]
00:24:56 ◼ ► pass code to get into something kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1496">TS</a>]
00:24:57 ◼ ► thing or is it like a giant car key [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1497">TS</a>]
00:24:59 ◼ ► no no well so there are some car keys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1499">TS</a>]
00:25:02 ◼ ► like if you drive a nissan leaf or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1502">TS</a>]
00:25:03 ◼ ► something you have a dongle in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1503">TS</a>]
00:25:06 ◼ ► pocket you don't have a small generator [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1506">TS</a>]
00:25:08 ◼ ► on it is that what it is i think there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1508">TS</a>]
00:25:10 ◼ ► many for the keys to be that big really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1510">TS</a>]
00:25:12 ◼ ► you never have to put it in the car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1512">TS</a>]
00:25:15 ◼ ► it knows you're there it knows your key [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1515">TS</a>]
00:25:17 ◼ ► is in the car and it starts the car ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1517">TS</a>]
00:25:22 ◼ ► uh-huh right that's the the this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1522">TS</a>]
00:25:25 ◼ ► yes it because the thing is even though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1525">TS</a>]
00:25:28 ◼ ► after 40 years of computers for years of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1528">TS</a>]
00:25:30 ◼ ► personal computers we act my mom said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1530">TS</a>]
00:25:33 ◼ ► this to me the other day I know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1533">TS</a>]
00:25:34 ◼ ► she's becoming more and more a character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1534">TS</a>]
00:25:36 ◼ ► on this podcast finally when she objects [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1536">TS</a>]
00:25:39 ◼ ► to it because she feels like i miss up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1539">TS</a>]
00:25:41 ◼ ► miss representing her if I am is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1541">TS</a>]
00:25:44 ◼ ► representing her it is only that I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1544">TS</a>]
00:25:47 ◼ ► describing how actually tough she is but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1547">TS</a>]
00:25:51 ◼ ► impossibly tough that was reading some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1551">TS</a>]
00:25:53 ◼ ► scientific american or something and she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1553">TS</a>]
00:25:56 ◼ ► did you know the computers have not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1556">TS</a>]
00:25:59 ◼ ► increased productivity one iota and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1559">TS</a>]
00:26:04 ◼ ► and she said it's true it takes did you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1564">TS</a>]
00:26:07 ◼ ► know that the dough and she said it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1567">TS</a>]
00:26:12 ◼ ► do everything now as it did in nineteen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1572">TS</a>]
00:26:14 ◼ ► sixty-five the only thing the computers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1574">TS</a>]
00:26:17 ◼ ► have done is increase productivity in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1577">TS</a>]
00:26:20 ◼ ► things that are not important that only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1580">TS</a>]
00:26:22 ◼ ► exists to be computer things and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1582">TS</a>]
00:26:24 ◼ ► there was no compare that we can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1584">TS</a>]
00:26:26 ◼ ► compare to how long it took in 1965 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1586">TS</a>]
00:26:28 ◼ ► because we didn't have photoshop then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1588">TS</a>]
00:26:30 ◼ ► but in terms of like paying your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1590">TS</a>]
00:26:33 ◼ ► checkbook or some business practice she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1593">TS</a>]
00:26:36 ◼ ► was like I was in I was in I was doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1596">TS</a>]
00:26:38 ◼ ► computers in business for 30 years and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1598">TS</a>]
00:26:40 ◼ ► at no point along the way did it ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1600">TS</a>]
00:26:42 ◼ ► increase productivity one iota and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1602">TS</a>]
00:26:45 ◼ ► still hasn't and I was like uh and i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1605">TS</a>]
00:26:49 ◼ ► thinking and thinking about about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1609">TS</a>]
00:26:51 ◼ ► processes and realizing that i could not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1611">TS</a>]
00:26:55 ◼ ► refute what she said with anything and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1615">TS</a>]
00:27:00 ◼ ► oh dear and she was like that she wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1620">TS</a>]
00:27:03 ◼ ► referring directly to my dongle which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1623">TS</a>]
00:27:05 ◼ ► performs exactly what do you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1625">TS</a>]
00:27:08 ◼ ► function of a key accepted except it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1628">TS</a>]
00:27:13 ◼ ► awkward it's more awkward than mickey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1633">TS</a>]
00:27:17 ◼ ► well what is the dongle do that is a key [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1637">TS</a>]
00:27:20 ◼ ► except instead of putting it in a lock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1640">TS</a>]
00:27:22 ◼ ► you touch it to a pad and get a fob it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1642">TS</a>]
00:27:25 ◼ ► a fob that's right i'm sorry of a dongle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1645">TS</a>]
00:27:27 ◼ ► and a father the same if one of their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1647">TS</a>]
00:27:30 ◼ ► stance your hats if somebody can tell me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1650">TS</a>]
00:27:32 ◼ ► that it was putting dongle and fob who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1652">TS</a>]
00:27:34 ◼ ► first of all it will be someone who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1654">TS</a>]
00:27:36 ◼ ► listens to the lobby i want to give a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1656">TS</a>]
00:27:38 ◼ ► fob I think of Ellicott near-field [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1658">TS</a>]
00:27:39 ◼ ► communication kind of thing where it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1659">TS</a>]
00:27:41 ◼ ► like you know what it is it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1661">TS</a>]
00:27:42 ◼ ► what's-his-name a detective yakamoto was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1662">TS</a>]
00:27:45 ◼ ► oh yeah well let's let's just go let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1665">TS</a>]
00:27:47 ◼ ► just go on to tekmoto yakamoto doing his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1667">TS</a>]
00:27:50 ◼ ► little disco dance to make the door open [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1670">TS</a>]
00:27:52 ◼ ► right that's right he reaches up touches [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1672">TS</a>]
00:27:55 ◼ ► it with his butt and some card in his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1675">TS</a>]
00:27:58 ◼ ► wallet says you know but instead of just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1678">TS</a>]
00:28:01 ◼ ► instead of maintaining his police like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1681">TS</a>]
00:28:03 ◼ ► dignity and sticking a key into a into a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1683">TS</a>]
00:28:07 ◼ ► keyhole 3-pointer with one with his ass [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1687">TS</a>]
00:28:10 ◼ ► that's right how about a WoW and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1690">TS</a>]
00:28:14 ◼ ► instead of a locomotive going into a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1694">TS</a>]
00:28:16 ◼ ► train tunnel now we have some sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1696">TS</a>]
00:28:22 ◼ ► and and then we're walking past a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1702">TS</a>]
00:28:25 ◼ ► recumbent bicycle yet and when they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1705">TS</a>]
00:28:27 ◼ ► come a bicycle is a classic example I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1707">TS</a>]
00:28:30 ◼ ► not well and he's a map right now I'm so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1710">TS</a>]
00:28:34 ◼ ► so what she was trying to tell me that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1714">TS</a>]
00:28:37 ◼ ► that throughout her entire career and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1717">TS</a>]
00:28:39 ◼ ► computers you know they would publish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1719">TS</a>]
00:28:41 ◼ ► computer computer talk in magazines [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1721">TS</a>]
00:28:44 ◼ ► probably called computer talk where they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1724">TS</a>]
00:28:47 ◼ ► would where they would editorialize and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1727">TS</a>]
00:28:50 ◼ ► say still this 1979 or something still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1730">TS</a>]
00:28:53 ◼ ► after all this investment in computers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1733">TS</a>]
00:28:54 ◼ ► we have not improved productivity one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1734">TS</a>]
00:28:57 ◼ ► or rather one iota and that was to all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1737">TS</a>]
00:29:00 ◼ ► the way through 19 me because it me or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1740">TS</a>]
00:29:03 ◼ ► is there a bit how many iotas can dance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1743">TS</a>]
00:29:06 ◼ ► how many iotas convenience inside of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1746">TS</a>]
00:29:09 ◼ ► police evidence he got six iotas in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1749">TS</a>]
00:29:12 ◼ ► moment but there's 12 moments in a bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1752">TS</a>]
00:29:15 ◼ ► uh-huh anything like 75 bits in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1755">TS</a>]
00:29:17 ◼ ► megabyte right it's like bass bass 1024 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1757">TS</a>]
00:29:20 ◼ ► basically that and you know and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1760">TS</a>]
00:29:22 ◼ ► Robert's Rules of Order comes into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1762">TS</a>]
00:29:23 ◼ ► effect but personal probably but I said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1763">TS</a>]
00:29:26 ◼ ► to her if the these magazines were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1766">TS</a>]
00:29:29 ◼ ► reporting this stuff a wide in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1769">TS</a>]
00:29:31 ◼ ► general population rebell or say what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1771">TS</a>]
00:29:34 ◼ ► going on with these things and she said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1774">TS</a>]
00:29:36 ◼ ► at that time unlike now nobody read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1776">TS</a>]
00:29:40 ◼ ► computer magazines except computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1780">TS</a>]
00:29:42 ◼ ► people and computer people at the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1782">TS</a>]
00:29:45 ◼ ► were unwilling to were unwilling to look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1785">TS</a>]
00:29:49 ◼ ► critically at computers because it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1789">TS</a>]
00:29:51 ◼ ► there it was it was there happy place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1791">TS</a>]
00:29:53 ◼ ► but we would read these things ago wow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1793">TS</a>]
00:29:55 ◼ ► it hasn't improved productivity one bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1795">TS</a>]
00:29:57 ◼ ► well it certainly will begin to do so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1797">TS</a>]
00:29:59 ◼ ► right now soon and then it never did and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1799">TS</a>]
00:30:04 ◼ ► you know she's talking about what I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1804">TS</a>]
00:30:07 ◼ ► to talk about all the time which is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1807">TS</a>]
00:30:10 ◼ ► we built the Saturn five rocket using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1810">TS</a>]
00:30:12 ◼ ► pipe benders and slide rules and we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1812">TS</a>]
00:30:16 ◼ ► yet to best you know we cheap we keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1816">TS</a>]
00:30:19 ◼ ► building rockets and keep exploding on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1819">TS</a>]
00:30:21 ◼ ► the back of the aircraft carrier right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1821">TS</a>]
00:30:22 ◼ ► is no like the slide rule argument or no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1822">TS</a>]
00:30:26 ◼ ► not even well i don't know i wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1826">TS</a>]
00:30:29 ◼ ► call the slide rule argument I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1829">TS</a>]
00:30:30 ◼ ► call it the balance your checkbook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1830">TS</a>]
00:30:32 ◼ ► argument which is that at the end of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1832">TS</a>]
00:30:36 ◼ ► check register and you balance it with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1836">TS</a>]
00:30:38 ◼ ► pen as opposed to booting up your check [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1838">TS</a>]
00:30:42 ◼ ► balancing software and looking at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1842">TS</a>]
00:30:44 ◼ ► the pie charts that generates but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1844">TS</a>]
00:30:46 ◼ ► takes the same amount of time and has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1846">TS</a>]
00:30:52 ◼ ► mm ok that's ok alright well just offer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1852">TS</a>]
00:30:56 ◼ ► this quote from Upton Sinclair that i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1856">TS</a>]
00:30:57 ◼ ► always quoting I want to get it right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1857">TS</a>]
00:31:00 ◼ ► understand something when his salary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1860">TS</a>]
00:31:02 ◼ ► depends upon his not understanding it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1862">TS</a>]
00:31:04 ◼ ► that's kind of what you're describing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1864">TS</a>]
00:31:05 ◼ ► right are some ways if you're if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1865">TS</a>]
00:31:08 ◼ ► a computer jockey you're not gonna look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1868">TS</a>]
00:31:09 ◼ ► for instances where the computer stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1869">TS</a>]
00:31:12 ◼ ► absolutely yeah i think that up but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1872">TS</a>]
00:31:14 ◼ ► would you describe that as a counter or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1874">TS</a>]
00:31:16 ◼ ► as a no I'm just I'm just doing that to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1876">TS</a>]
00:31:17 ◼ ► kind of calm me down a little here's my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1877">TS</a>]
00:31:18 ◼ ► counter like my counter is that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1878">TS</a>]
00:31:21 ◼ ► depends on what you talk about being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1881">TS</a>]
00:31:22 ◼ ► productive about because the the massive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1882">TS</a>]
00:31:24 ◼ ► change we see little changes in our life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1884">TS</a>]
00:31:27 ◼ ► works as people who are on desktop and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1887">TS</a>]
00:31:29 ◼ ► laptop in mobile computers the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1889">TS</a>]
00:31:31 ◼ ► that's that's not in our face every day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1891">TS</a>]
00:31:33 ◼ ► in that same way is that we are allowed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1893">TS</a>]
00:31:36 ◼ ► to be productive or not productive about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1896">TS</a>]
00:31:38 ◼ ► very different kinds of work because in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1898">TS</a>]
00:31:40 ◼ ► a way i will very loosely described as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1900">TS</a>]
00:31:42 ◼ ► behind-the-scenes there's a lot of stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1902">TS</a>]
00:31:44 ◼ ► being done by machines and computers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1904">TS</a>]
00:31:45 ◼ ► that are actually making things much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1905">TS</a>]
00:31:49 ◼ ► something like agriculture agriculture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1909">TS</a>]
00:31:50 ◼ ► like what you're able to do with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1910">TS</a>]
00:31:52 ◼ ► agriculture is it you know at scale is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1912">TS</a>]
00:31:55 ◼ ► so huge now that infrastructure has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1915">TS</a>]
00:31:58 ◼ ► developed beyond like you know being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1918">TS</a>]
00:32:00 ◼ ► able to just get things locally or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1920">TS</a>]
00:32:01 ◼ ► whatever but but I feel like I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1921">TS</a>]
00:32:05 ◼ ► certainly at the level of crunching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1925">TS</a>]
00:32:08 ◼ ► numbers of like crunching prime numbers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1928">TS</a>]
00:32:11 ◼ ► computers are doing them allowing us to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1931">TS</a>]
00:32:15 ◼ ► do that in a much larger scale and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1935">TS</a>]
00:32:18 ◼ ► is producing something that that there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1938">TS</a>]
00:32:21 ◼ ► are a lot of people are going to a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1941">TS</a>]
00:32:23 ◼ ► of people are going to describe the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1943">TS</a>]
00:32:24 ◼ ► tangible effect of that uh huh uh in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1944">TS</a>]
00:32:27 ◼ ► terms of for instance like cryptologist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1947">TS</a>]
00:32:30 ◼ ► but that encryption is all now newly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1950">TS</a>]
00:32:36 ◼ ► necessary because computers almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1956">TS</a>]
00:32:39 ◼ ► creating new need for new technology [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1959">TS</a>]
00:32:41 ◼ ► that's right that the technology is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1961">TS</a>]
00:32:43 ◼ ► fulfilling the need which is it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1963">TS</a>]
00:32:44 ◼ ► my dad when I took his car away and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1964">TS</a>]
00:32:49 ◼ ► why he said to go to the mechanic yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1969">TS</a>]
00:32:51 ◼ ► so a lot of that stuff is just like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1971">TS</a>]
00:32:57 ◼ ► agriculture productivity as a result of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1977">TS</a>]
00:33:00 ◼ ► Monsanto count you know like gene [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1980">TS</a>]
00:33:05 ◼ ► manipulation and it's produced a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1985">TS</a>]
00:33:07 ◼ ► monoculture so we have so it isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1987">TS</a>]
00:33:11 ◼ ► actually an improvement it's just a it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1991">TS</a>]
00:33:13 ◼ ► is a streamlining of a thing that we go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1993">TS</a>]
00:33:17 ◼ ► well I think it's different if i could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1997">TS</a>]
00:33:19 ◼ ► say i think it's different to argue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/1999">TS</a>]
00:33:22 ◼ ► rather than again the in the aggregate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2002">TS</a>]
00:33:25 ◼ ► is all that make the world better i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2005">TS</a>]
00:33:26 ◼ ► don't know what I'm trying to say is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2006">TS</a>]
00:33:29 ◼ ► inexorable march of technology the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2009">TS</a>]
00:33:31 ◼ ► that is fairly consistent is that as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2011">TS</a>]
00:33:33 ◼ ► soon as it's less expensive and more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2013">TS</a>]
00:33:37 ◼ ► reliable to have a machine do something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2017">TS</a>]
00:33:40 ◼ ► the machine will do that which then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2020">TS</a>]
00:33:42 ◼ ► necessarily change the nature of what an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2022">TS</a>]
00:33:44 ◼ ► actual person does and so you can even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2024">TS</a>]
00:33:47 ◼ ► look at the last 30 40 years and how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2027">TS</a>]
00:33:49 ◼ ► there was a time when you need people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2029">TS</a>]
00:33:51 ◼ ► who did things called word processing or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2031">TS</a>]
00:33:53 ◼ ► data entry that was a kind of job and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2033">TS</a>]
00:33:55 ◼ ► now there are machines that do that kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2035">TS</a>]
00:33:57 ◼ ► of stuff better faster more efficiently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2037">TS</a>]
00:34:00 ◼ ► and less costly so even though that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2040">TS</a>]
00:34:02 ◼ ► considered a technology jobs 30 years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2042">TS</a>]
00:34:04 ◼ ► it's not anymore because now that job is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2044">TS</a>]
00:34:07 ◼ ► being done by the technology itself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2047">TS</a>]
00:34:08 ◼ ► right necessarily changes what it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2048">TS</a>]
00:34:10 ◼ ► that we're doing on our computers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2050">TS</a>]
00:34:12 ◼ ► yes it does but what what I'm saying is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2052">TS</a>]
00:34:14 ◼ ► that that behind word processing behind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2054">TS</a>]
00:34:17 ◼ ► the Machine taking over word processing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2057">TS</a>]
00:34:20 ◼ ► rock processing those are just those are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2060">TS</a>]
00:34:24 ◼ ► just ways of processing what Holt what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2064">TS</a>]
00:34:29 ◼ ► typewriters on you know on what is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2069">TS</a>]
00:34:33 ◼ ► stuff called the where you type into a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2073">TS</a>]
00:34:36 ◼ ► piece of black paper and it makes three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2076">TS</a>]
00:34:43 ◼ ► technology including the typewriters in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2083">TS</a>]
00:34:45 ◼ ► the carbon copies is meant to process [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2085">TS</a>]
00:34:48 ◼ ► your insurance claim you know like all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2088">TS</a>]
00:34:51 ◼ ► of that is his ways of doing things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2091">TS</a>]
00:34:53 ◼ ► which have which have more or less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2093">TS</a>]
00:34:55 ◼ ► remained constant process your insurance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2095">TS</a>]
00:34:59 ◼ ► documents and that ultimately the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2099">TS</a>]
00:35:03 ◼ ► the end result the processing of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2103">TS</a>]
00:35:05 ◼ ► insurance the filling out the mortgage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2105">TS</a>]
00:35:07 ◼ ► documents still takes as much time as it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2107">TS</a>]
00:35:10 ◼ ► once did when it was done in longhand it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2110">TS</a>]
00:35:14 ◼ ► just now involves a lot more people and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2114">TS</a>]
00:35:16 ◼ ► a lot more process and a lot more layers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2116">TS</a>]
00:35:20 ◼ ► of technology but the butt but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2120">TS</a>]
00:35:22 ◼ ► actual stuff that's getting done hasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2122">TS</a>]
00:35:27 ◼ ► uh-huh and takes just as long and I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2127">TS</a>]
00:35:30 ◼ ► that right now it the the real question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2130">TS</a>]
00:35:33 ◼ ► is how many John Syracuse's are dancing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2133">TS</a>]
00:35:35 ◼ ► on the head of a pin trying to refute [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2135">TS</a>]
00:35:37 ◼ ► this argument yelling at his TV screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2137">TS</a>]
00:35:39 ◼ ► huh but in but but i believe began and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2139">TS</a>]
00:35:42 ◼ ► the ultimate proof in the of it is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2142">TS</a>]
00:35:44 ◼ ► fact that we have not know not only have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2144">TS</a>]
00:35:49 ◼ ► we not reduce the 40-hour workweek to 20 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2149">TS</a>]
00:35:51 ◼ ► hours but we have increased the 40-hour [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2151">TS</a>]
00:35:53 ◼ ► workweek to 60 hours and we have a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2153">TS</a>]
00:35:57 ◼ ► more people working longer and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2157">TS</a>]
00:36:01 ◼ ► haven't we have not accomplished a a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2161">TS</a>]
00:36:03 ◼ ► world in which machines are doing our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2163">TS</a>]
00:36:04 ◼ ► work we've just added multiple multiple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2164">TS</a>]
00:36:08 ◼ ► layers of you know of of action and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2168">TS</a>]
00:36:14 ◼ ► still takes I mean I don't know when the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2174">TS</a>]
00:36:15 ◼ ► last time you filled out mortgage papers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2175">TS</a>]
00:36:17 ◼ ► were Oh God in heaven i put it's like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2177">TS</a>]
00:36:20 ◼ ► feel like I feel like when you when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2180">TS</a>]
00:36:22 ◼ ► got a mortgage in 1920 it took less time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2182">TS</a>]
00:36:27 ◼ ► so anyway that's just isn't getting what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2187">TS</a>]
00:36:31 ◼ ► i'm gonna get so many angry letters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2191">TS</a>]
00:36:32 ◼ ► well yeah you probably should pick up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2192">TS</a>]
00:36:36 ◼ ► but I am I don't see your but we really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2196">TS</a>]
00:36:40 ◼ ► kind of talking about quality of life in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2200">TS</a>]
00:36:42 ◼ ► well I'm talking about why why do we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2202">TS</a>]
00:36:45 ◼ ► have computers and machines and what is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2205">TS</a>]
00:36:46 ◼ ► their actual purpose and what we keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2206">TS</a>]
00:36:49 ◼ ► doing is applying them to things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2209">TS</a>]
00:36:50 ◼ ► applying them to with the idea that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2210">TS</a>]
00:36:54 ◼ ► are streamlining our processes so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2214">TS</a>]
00:36:57 ◼ ► we can have all this extra free time to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2217">TS</a>]
00:36:59 ◼ ► do to make carton and sit on the beach [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2219">TS</a>]
00:37:01 ◼ ► and the computers have yet to prove that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2221">TS</a>]
00:37:04 ◼ ► they can do those things actually better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2224">TS</a>]
00:37:07 ◼ ► i mean you can you can you can buy a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2227">TS</a>]
00:37:10 ◼ ► home tax filling out computer program [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2230">TS</a>]
00:37:17 ◼ ► to it and you can learn how to use it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2237">TS</a>]
00:37:19 ◼ ► and herpa derpa derp but at the end of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2239">TS</a>]
00:37:21 ◼ ► the day it takes just as long to do your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2241">TS</a>]
00:37:23 ◼ ► taxes that as it did in nineteen fifty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2243">TS</a>]
00:37:27 ◼ ► why have you bothered ok alright um and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2247">TS</a>]
00:37:30 ◼ ► and at the other end yes computers are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2250">TS</a>]
00:37:33 ◼ ► processing prime numbers and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2253">TS</a>]
00:37:36 ◼ ► sequencing genomes and those do have an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2256">TS</a>]
00:37:40 ◼ ► effect on science and they are pushing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2260">TS</a>]
00:37:43 ◼ ► the envelope forward but and but we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2263">TS</a>]
00:37:46 ◼ ► don't reserve computers just to do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2266">TS</a>]
00:37:48 ◼ ► work we we spend most of our energy and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2268">TS</a>]
00:37:51 ◼ ► most of our time trying to apply [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2271">TS</a>]
00:37:53 ◼ ► computers to like newspaper layouts and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2273">TS</a>]
00:37:59 ◼ ► eat your your your bamboozled into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2279">TS</a>]
00:38:03 ◼ ► thinking that it's easier and better and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2283">TS</a>]
00:38:05 ◼ ► faster and and so forth but it actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2285">TS</a>]
00:38:07 ◼ ► just takes as much time as when we used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2287">TS</a>]
00:38:10 ◼ ► to put stickam glue down on a on a crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2290">TS</a>]
00:38:17 ◼ ► questionably better you know all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2297">TS</a>]
00:38:21 ◼ ► time we talked about kerning kerning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2301">TS</a>]
00:38:23 ◼ ► kerning and you know and we used to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2303">TS</a>]
00:38:28 ◼ ► that by hand but it was it was better it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2308">TS</a>]
00:38:31 ◼ ► was prettier and it was closer to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2311">TS</a>]
00:38:34 ◼ ► closer to the truth of really never been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2314">TS</a>]
00:38:39 ◼ ► ha ha ha technology has made it so easy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2319">TS</a>]
00:38:42 ◼ ► for people to email you about they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2322">TS</a>]
00:38:44 ◼ ► going to i'm gonna get so many angry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2324">TS</a>]
00:38:46 ◼ ► emails from people who are barely on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2326">TS</a>]
00:38:50 ◼ ► oh dear um ok so let me ask you this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2330">TS</a>]
00:38:53 ◼ ► there a time and era where you feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2333">TS</a>]
00:38:56 ◼ ► it was in the sweet spot for like on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2336">TS</a>]
00:38:58 ◼ ► one hand it's nice that food doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2338">TS</a>]
00:39:02 ◼ ► on the other hand we don't want devices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2342">TS</a>]
00:39:04 ◼ ► in our house listening to us to create [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2344">TS</a>]
00:39:06 ◼ ► ads that are appropriate somewhere in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2346">TS</a>]
00:39:09 ◼ ► between what you think this sweet spot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2349">TS</a>]
00:39:10 ◼ ► was really think technology was put to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2350">TS</a>]
00:39:12 ◼ ► good use but not too much good news i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2352">TS</a>]
00:39:14 ◼ ► want to go back to the to your claim [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2354">TS</a>]
00:39:16 ◼ ► that food formerly made us sick and now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2356">TS</a>]
00:39:18 ◼ ► computers have made it so that food [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2358">TS</a>]
00:39:19 ◼ ► doesn't make us it's not computers its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2359">TS</a>]
00:39:21 ◼ ► technology this is the problem is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2361">TS</a>]
00:39:22 ◼ ► go in a world where we think all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2362">TS</a>]
00:39:24 ◼ ► technology is about new apps the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2364">TS</a>]
00:39:27 ◼ ► the problem is that so much of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2367">TS</a>]
00:39:30 ◼ ► alcohol technology is really about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2370">TS</a>]
00:39:33 ◼ ► consumer-facing devices so it's easy to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2373">TS</a>]
00:39:36 ◼ ► make a strong man about technology when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2376">TS</a>]
00:39:37 ◼ ► you talk about samsung samsung having a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2377">TS</a>]
00:39:39 ◼ ► refrigerator with a large screen on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2379">TS</a>]
00:39:41 ◼ ► like yeah okay yeah I get that silly but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2381">TS</a>]
00:39:43 ◼ ► couple things is the first of all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2383">TS</a>]
00:39:46 ◼ ► happening behind the scenes to make life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2386">TS</a>]
00:39:49 ◼ ► easier and safe and reliable and less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2389">TS</a>]
00:39:52 ◼ ► costly but then on the other hand i also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2392">TS</a>]
00:39:54 ◼ ► i've learned to become reluctant about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2394">TS</a>]
00:39:56 ◼ ► drawing too many conclusions about a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2396">TS</a>]
00:39:57 ◼ ► feature that I can't understand where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2397">TS</a>]
00:39:59 ◼ ► something that right now seems like an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2399">TS</a>]
00:40:01 ◼ ► inconvenience or a silly thing to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2401">TS</a>]
00:40:03 ◼ ► within five years might be something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2403">TS</a>]
00:40:05 ◼ ► that's that's a pretty big deal but I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2405">TS</a>]
00:40:08 ◼ ► yeah but i'm not talking about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2408">TS</a>]
00:40:09 ◼ ► future i'm talking about the now and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2409">TS</a>]
00:40:11 ◼ ► that whatever with my marbles and now is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2411">TS</a>]
00:40:13 ◼ ► the beginning of the future that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2413">TS</a>]
00:40:14 ◼ ► that's how it works well I know in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2414">TS</a>]
00:40:15 ◼ ► moms but my mom is saying that that has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2415">TS</a>]
00:40:17 ◼ ► been the conversation since nineteen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2417">TS</a>]
00:40:19 ◼ ► sixty-five that in five years were going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2419">TS</a>]
00:40:22 ◼ ► to have a paperless office in five years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2422">TS</a>]
00:40:24 ◼ ► you're not going to have to do your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2424">TS</a>]
00:40:25 ◼ ► taxes in five years were going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2425">TS</a>]
00:40:27 ◼ ► able to you know she said the amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2427">TS</a>]
00:40:29 ◼ ► thing was in 1965 they said in five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2429">TS</a>]
00:40:33 ◼ ► programmers because all that will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2433">TS</a>]
00:40:35 ◼ ► automated right and then in nineteen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2435">TS</a>]
00:40:37 ◼ ► seventy they said in five years there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2437">TS</a>]
00:40:39 ◼ ► won't be computer programmers and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2439">TS</a>]
00:40:40 ◼ ► they've been saying that every five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2440">TS</a>]
00:40:41 ◼ ► years for the last 40 years and now we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2441">TS</a>]
00:40:44 ◼ ► have more computer programmers than ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2444">TS</a>]
00:40:45 ◼ ► and there's more things to program about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2445">TS</a>]
00:40:48 ◼ ► right which is a lot of how to do your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2448">TS</a>]
00:40:51 ◼ ► tax software but i but i want to know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2451">TS</a>]
00:40:53 ◼ ► that's not accurate and I want to know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2453">TS</a>]
00:40:55 ◼ ► exactly how computers have made food [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2455">TS</a>]
00:40:58 ◼ ► safer on or how technology Nazi i iu and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2458">TS</a>]
00:41:03 ◼ ► i i am not prepared to debate this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2463">TS</a>]
00:41:05 ◼ ► because i haven't had time to prepare [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2465">TS</a>]
00:41:06 ◼ ► for this but i'm trying to think of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2466">TS</a>]
00:41:08 ◼ ► things I think of things like along the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2468">TS</a>]
00:41:10 ◼ ► lines of maybe having to do with with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2470">TS</a>]
00:41:14 ◼ ► things like being able to do quality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2474">TS</a>]
00:41:16 ◼ ► control on various kinds of foods or I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2476">TS</a>]
00:41:19 ◼ ► thinking about things like being able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2479">TS</a>]
00:41:20 ◼ ► track epidemiology being able to track [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2480">TS</a>]
00:41:22 ◼ ► things like diseases that go around you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2482">TS</a>]
00:41:26 ◼ ► know all the way down to like people in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2486">TS</a>]
00:41:28 ◼ ► Africa being able to have the beginnings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2488">TS</a>]
00:41:31 ◼ ► of trade based on SMS and things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2491">TS</a>]
00:41:34 ◼ ► that there's all kinds of ways in which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2494">TS</a>]
00:41:35 ◼ ► technology gets used in a novel way in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2495">TS</a>]
00:41:39 ◼ ► small way or in a scalable way in a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2499">TS</a>]
00:41:42 ◼ ► way that end up improving our life and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2502">TS</a>]
00:41:44 ◼ ► the thing is I think the fallacies to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2504">TS</a>]
00:41:45 ◼ ► think that any given new technology is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2505">TS</a>]
00:41:48 ◼ ► it's not it's just going to be the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2508">TS</a>]
00:41:50 ◼ ► technology that we didn't make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2510">TS</a>]
00:41:51 ◼ ► decision what to do with which I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2511">TS</a>]
00:41:53 ◼ ► I'm saying for the last 40 years we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2513">TS</a>]
00:41:55 ◼ ► been tracking that and then any kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2515">TS</a>]
00:41:57 ◼ ► like I think the food safety stuff that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2517">TS</a>]
00:41:59 ◼ ► you're saying the computers have made it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2519">TS</a>]
00:42:01 ◼ ► much easier to import strawberries from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2521">TS</a>]
00:42:04 ◼ ► New Zealand which is a thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2524">TS</a>]
00:42:07 ◼ ► computers made it necessary to do in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2527">TS</a>]
00:42:11 ◼ ► way you know like with or like computers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2531">TS</a>]
00:42:15 ◼ ► invented into importing strawberries [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2535">TS</a>]
00:42:17 ◼ ► from New Zealand in away let's just say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2537">TS</a>]
00:42:19 ◼ ► technology did yeah we now have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2539">TS</a>]
00:42:21 ◼ ► technology to have strawberries all year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2541">TS</a>]
00:42:22 ◼ ► round and that's the that's kind of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2542">TS</a>]
00:42:26 ◼ ► amazing thing we didn't use to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2546">TS</a>]
00:42:29 ◼ ► now we do and and that is I guess the i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2549">TS</a>]
00:42:34 ◼ ► guess the the thing that I notice that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2554">TS</a>]
00:42:37 ◼ ► that actually is an improvement right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2557">TS</a>]
00:42:40 ◼ ► there was a time when you go to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2560">TS</a>]
00:42:41 ◼ ► grocery store in the winter and all i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2561">TS</a>]
00:42:46 ◼ ► uh-huh except the grasshoppers want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2566">TS</a>]
00:42:50 ◼ ► chocolate covered but now we have them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2570">TS</a>]
00:42:52 ◼ ► and those things have created a whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2572">TS</a>]
00:42:55 ◼ ► new host of problems and you know and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2575">TS</a>]
00:42:58 ◼ ► now we have to use technology to to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2578">TS</a>]
00:43:02 ◼ ► facilitate these processes processes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2582">TS</a>]
00:43:04 ◼ ► that you know that it's like we created [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2584">TS</a>]
00:43:08 ◼ ► problems and now our man now are solving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2588">TS</a>]
00:43:11 ◼ ► my guess that is the march of technology [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2591">TS</a>]
00:43:13 ◼ ► especially if you take technology to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2593">TS</a>]
00:43:15 ◼ ► mean again and that where technology is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2595">TS</a>]
00:43:18 ◼ ► uh can be kind of thorny you and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2598">TS</a>]
00:43:24 ◼ ► conversation i was saying computers and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2604">TS</a>]
00:43:28 ◼ ► oh ok alright fair enough yeah cuz I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2608">TS</a>]
00:43:30 ◼ ► mean like it is a better plow because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2610">TS</a>]
00:43:33 ◼ ► I'm to understand what you're saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2613">TS</a>]
00:43:34 ◼ ► it's happened not just sound like an old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2614">TS</a>]
00:43:36 ◼ ► man thing is but it sounds like you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2616">TS</a>]
00:43:38 ◼ ► saying that we will you tell me but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2618">TS</a>]
00:43:40 ◼ ► sounds like you're saying that what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2620">TS</a>]
00:43:42 ◼ ► widespread availability of computing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2622">TS</a>]
00:43:47 ◼ ► computing well no I'm saying show me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2627">TS</a>]
00:43:50 ◼ ► where quality of life has improved in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2630">TS</a>]
00:43:52 ◼ ► the last 50 years that where you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2632">TS</a>]
00:43:57 ◼ ► movements and technology rather like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2637">TS</a>]
00:44:00 ◼ ► every time I do that though you didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2640">TS</a>]
00:44:01 ◼ ► turn that into a thing where you're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2641">TS</a>]
00:44:04 ◼ ► computers but i think there are there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2644">TS</a>]
00:44:07 ◼ ► are no I mean that's what that's what it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2647">TS</a>]
00:44:09 ◼ ► seems like I mean I i don't i don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2649">TS</a>]
00:44:11 ◼ ► i don't i guess I guess what I'm trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2651">TS</a>]
00:44:13 ◼ ► to figure out is like when was there a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2653">TS</a>]
00:44:15 ◼ ► time when this was ever any different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2655">TS</a>]
00:44:17 ◼ ► well if it's not sure I fully understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2657">TS</a>]
00:44:20 ◼ ► what your point is if i do though it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2660">TS</a>]
00:44:21 ◼ ► it's that there's something has changed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2661">TS</a>]
00:44:23 ◼ ► in the last 40 50 years i guess i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2663">TS</a>]
00:44:26 ◼ ► say at the turn of the at the turn of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2666">TS</a>]
00:44:28 ◼ ► the 18th to the 19th century we had an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2668">TS</a>]
00:44:30 ◼ ► explosion of technology that where we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2670">TS</a>]
00:44:32 ◼ ► have the electric light bulb we had the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2672">TS</a>]
00:44:34 ◼ ► look you know certainly we already have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2674">TS</a>]
00:44:36 ◼ ► the locomotive but we have the motorcar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2676">TS</a>]
00:44:38 ◼ ► we have the airplane and so throughout [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2678">TS</a>]
00:44:44 ◼ ► developed the steam engine ships no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2684">TS</a>]
00:44:49 ◼ ► fantastic march of progress you know my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2689">TS</a>]
00:44:53 ◼ ► mom remembers the first time she saw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2693">TS</a>]
00:44:55 ◼ ► tractor food because before that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2695">TS</a>]
00:44:59 ◼ ► really that was like in her lifetime it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2699">TS</a>]
00:45:01 ◼ ► well i'm getting even where she lived [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2701">TS</a>]
00:45:03 ◼ ► there were already lots of tractors but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2703">TS</a>]
00:45:05 ◼ ► but it that you know they weren't they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2705">TS</a>]
00:45:07 ◼ ► were expensive and so they were plowing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2707">TS</a>]
00:45:10 ◼ ► her 40 acres with horses and then they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2710">TS</a>]
00:45:12 ◼ ► got a tractor and a combine or combine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2712">TS</a>]
00:45:15 ◼ ► attachment to a tractor but still the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2715">TS</a>]
00:45:17 ◼ ► the cart where the grain was going was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2717">TS</a>]
00:45:21 ◼ ► pulled by horses and that was pulled by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2721">TS</a>]
00:45:22 ◼ ► horses into the late forties so those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2722">TS</a>]
00:45:27 ◼ ► are real real like technologies that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2727">TS</a>]
00:45:30 ◼ ► that changed everybody's life but but we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2730">TS</a>]
00:45:34 ◼ ► are looking at the last 40 years and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2734">TS</a>]
00:45:38 ◼ ► think the other the actual way we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2738">TS</a>]
00:45:42 ◼ ► living in 2015 2016 compared to how we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2742">TS</a>]
00:45:47 ◼ ► were living in 1966 hasn't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2747">TS</a>]
00:45:49 ◼ ► changed where basically flying the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2749">TS</a>]
00:45:51 ◼ ► airplanes we are driving the same cars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2751">TS</a>]
00:45:55 ◼ ► for all intensive purposes and filling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2755">TS</a>]
00:45:58 ◼ ► out our taxes and voting and and we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2758">TS</a>]
00:46:03 ◼ ► not and we like to think that this has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2763">TS</a>]
00:46:08 ◼ ► but a lot more of it is just spinning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2768">TS</a>]
00:46:13 ◼ ► our wheels like with like because in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2773">TS</a>]
00:46:16 ◼ ► 1966 the perception of where we would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2776">TS</a>]
00:46:19 ◼ ► in 2016 was just as you're saying like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2779">TS</a>]
00:46:23 ◼ ► wow five years from now it's the future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2783">TS</a>]
00:46:25 ◼ ► and a lot of the things that hg wells [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2785">TS</a>]
00:46:31 ◼ ► the the physical like new technology [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2791">TS</a>]
00:46:36 ◼ ► actually was became real and was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2796">TS</a>]
00:46:40 ◼ ► astonishing and from 1966 to the present [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2800">TS</a>]
00:46:46 ◼ ► we haven't things are very different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2806">TS</a>]
00:46:50 ◼ ► we're doing very different things people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2810">TS</a>]
00:46:52 ◼ ► aren't sitting in and and typing on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2812">TS</a>]
00:46:54 ◼ ► carbon copy they are moving stuff around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2814">TS</a>]
00:46:56 ◼ ► with a mouse but the output is still you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2816">TS</a>]
00:47:02 ◼ ► know that the the newspaper on the on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2822">TS</a>]
00:47:04 ◼ ► the TV isn't actually much of a it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2824">TS</a>]
00:47:10 ◼ ► it's not a major change relative to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2830">TS</a>]
00:47:14 ◼ ► to a newspaper we still read newspapers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2834">TS</a>]
00:47:15 ◼ ► not all right but uh but you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2835">TS</a>]
00:47:19 ◼ ► information contained in it is more or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2839">TS</a>]
00:47:22 ◼ ► less identical and I think that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2842">TS</a>]
00:47:24 ◼ ► consumer-facing stuff that i guess i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2844">TS</a>]
00:47:26 ◼ ► thinking more about things that I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2846">TS</a>]
00:47:27 ◼ ► understand infrastructure where I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2847">TS</a>]
00:47:29 ◼ ► I might get would be that there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2849">TS</a>]
00:47:31 ◼ ► things in the infrastructure that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2851">TS</a>]
00:47:34 ◼ ► technology is making things better and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2854">TS</a>]
00:47:37 ◼ ► poop poop moves down tubes who and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2857">TS</a>]
00:47:40 ◼ ► before poop was moving down tubes and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2860">TS</a>]
00:47:42 ◼ ► and guys in overalls were like well i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2862">TS</a>]
00:47:44 ◼ ► think probably we got a clogged up there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2864">TS</a>]
00:47:46 ◼ ► at the head headwaters and then they go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2866">TS</a>]
00:47:48 ◼ ► up with shovels in a steam engine and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2868">TS</a>]
00:47:50 ◼ ► dig it out but now we've got somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2870">TS</a>]
00:47:52 ◼ ► sitting in a dark room looking at a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2872">TS</a>]
00:47:54 ◼ ► thousand different poop lines and saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2874">TS</a>]
00:47:58 ◼ ► like yep the poop is clogged up at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2878">TS</a>]
00:48:03 ◼ ► computerized and it is it is better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2883">TS</a>]
00:48:07 ◼ ► right but not as dramatically as we as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2887">TS</a>]
00:48:11 ◼ ► we think not as we have but I don't the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2891">TS</a>]
00:48:14 ◼ ► poop still goes down to ya but part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2894">TS</a>]
00:48:17 ◼ ► that is also that's just the nature of I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2897">TS</a>]
00:48:19 ◼ ► feel like that's part of that is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2899">TS</a>]
00:48:21 ◼ ► how changing technology works where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2901">TS</a>]
00:48:24 ◼ ► except in 90 in the early nineteen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2904">TS</a>]
00:48:26 ◼ ► hundreds poop went from being buried in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2906">TS</a>]
00:48:29 ◼ ► pitts to going down tubes that was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2909">TS</a>]
00:48:31 ◼ ► english thrown out a window or being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2911">TS</a>]
00:48:33 ◼ ► thrown out of a window which is why the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2913">TS</a>]
00:48:35 ◼ ► man walked on the edge of the sidewalk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2915">TS</a>]
00:48:36 ◼ ► and through his coat down into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2916">TS</a>]
00:48:39 ◼ ► yes so that was the that was the major [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2919">TS</a>]
00:48:43 ◼ ► advance now now we have a sewer but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2923">TS</a>]
00:48:46 ◼ ► computerizing the the process of poop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2926">TS</a>]
00:48:50 ◼ ► going down tubes hasn't really changed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2930">TS</a>]
00:48:54 ◼ ► it's still a 19th century technology [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2934">TS</a>]
00:48:58 ◼ ► hmm so I I don't you know I don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2938">TS</a>]
00:49:01 ◼ ► to like go down a list of a thousand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2941">TS</a>]
00:49:03 ◼ ► examples and you have thousands of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2943">TS</a>]
00:49:06 ◼ ► challenge with this is that is that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2946">TS</a>]
00:49:10 ◼ ► technology to be able to describe these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2950">TS</a>]
00:49:12 ◼ ► things except by analogy whereas I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2952">TS</a>]
00:49:16 ◼ ► pretty easily in finding things that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2956">TS</a>]
00:49:19 ◼ ► exceptions or problems from these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2959">TS</a>]
00:49:22 ◼ ► technical background i just i I'm a bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2962">TS</a>]
00:49:24 ◼ ► person argue about this with because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2964">TS</a>]
00:49:25 ◼ ► just don't know enough about how it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2965">TS</a>]
00:49:26 ◼ ► actually works but again I bet they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2966">TS</a>]
00:49:28 ◼ ► you know there are certain there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2968">TS</a>]
00:49:29 ◼ ► enough anecdotes about saying well now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2969">TS</a>]
00:49:31 ◼ ► trains are going too fast and pregnant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2971">TS</a>]
00:49:33 ◼ ► women shouldn't write on them which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2973">TS</a>]
00:49:35 ◼ ► not true but that's the kind of thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2975">TS</a>]
00:49:36 ◼ ► that they would say you could say yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2976">TS</a>]
00:49:38 ◼ ► we made these we made these plans but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2978">TS</a>]
00:49:40 ◼ ► you know hey you know those first planes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2980">TS</a>]
00:49:41 ◼ ► that they sent into war were not that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2981">TS</a>]
00:49:43 ◼ ► reliable and they're used to kill people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2983">TS</a>]
00:49:46 ◼ ► it's just that you know for every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2986">TS</a>]
00:49:47 ◼ ► example there's something that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2987">TS</a>]
00:49:49 ◼ ► learned and maybe at this point maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2989">TS</a>]
00:49:52 ◼ ► was that English guy yeah I mean I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2992">TS</a>]
00:49:54 ◼ ► saying that we should stop because I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2994">TS</a>]
00:49:56 ◼ ► feel like that I feel like we've talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/2996">TS</a>]
00:50:00 ◼ ► we are on the cusp of a big revolution [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3000">TS</a>]
00:50:03 ◼ ► like when when self-driving cars and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3003">TS</a>]
00:50:06 ◼ ► hate to keep bringing them up but so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3006">TS</a>]
00:50:09 ◼ ► not really thats not driving i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3009">TS</a>]
00:50:10 ◼ ► it's i think it's fascinating personally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3010">TS</a>]
00:50:12 ◼ ► I couldn't care less a year ago and now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3012">TS</a>]
00:50:14 ◼ ► yeah when those are happening that will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3014">TS</a>]
00:50:20 ◼ ► there it is that is an absolutely new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3020">TS</a>]
00:50:22 ◼ ► thing that could not be accomplished [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3022">TS</a>]
00:50:24 ◼ ► without computers it is a major advance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3024">TS</a>]
00:50:26 ◼ ► and it changes everyone's life dramatic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3026">TS</a>]
00:50:30 ◼ ► right that will be the first sign that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3030">TS</a>]
00:50:33 ◼ ► have seen that the computer revolution [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3033">TS</a>]
00:50:35 ◼ ► of the late 20th century the last 50 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3035">TS</a>]
00:50:40 ◼ ► everybody so that they understand this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3040">TS</a>]
00:50:42 ◼ ► and increasing processing power to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3042">TS</a>]
00:50:45 ◼ ► able to revolutionize transportation in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3045">TS</a>]
00:50:48 ◼ ► that way I'll go yes absolutely but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3048">TS</a>]
00:50:51 ◼ ► know the the the jet airplane was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3051">TS</a>]
00:50:54 ◼ ► invented in the forties and by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3054">TS</a>]
00:50:56 ◼ ► fifties we had a 707 that was you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3056">TS</a>]
00:51:01 ◼ ► and what we've done in making the 787 is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3061">TS</a>]
00:51:05 ◼ ► make that much incremental e more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3065">TS</a>]
00:51:08 ◼ ► efficient but still it's essentially the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3068">TS</a>]
00:51:11 ◼ ► same thing and and everyone at you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3071">TS</a>]
00:51:15 ◼ ► like in the nineteen fifties office we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3075">TS</a>]
00:51:17 ◼ ► were accomplishing a tremendous amount [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3077">TS</a>]
00:51:20 ◼ ► of paper pushing and we are still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3080">TS</a>]
00:51:21 ◼ ► pushing those papers now they just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3081">TS</a>]
00:51:24 ◼ ► they're just electric papers but like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3084">TS</a>]
00:51:27 ◼ ► yeah we're pushing electric papers but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3087">TS</a>]
00:51:30 ◼ ► now now with with the with these systems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3090">TS</a>]
00:51:33 ◼ ► coming online that's going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3093">TS</a>]
00:51:36 ◼ ► tremendous and I feel like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3096">TS</a>]
00:51:39 ◼ ► twitter is kind of a kind of a like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3099">TS</a>]
00:51:43 ◼ ► glimpse of the future but it is but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3103">TS</a>]
00:51:46 ◼ ► know it's like it is it is something new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3106">TS</a>]
00:51:50 ◼ ► right something that didn't exist before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3110">TS</a>]
00:51:53 ◼ ► that's that gives a glimpse of what what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3113">TS</a>]
00:51:56 ◼ ► society how society is going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3116">TS</a>]
00:51:59 ◼ ► different but but I but I'm just saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3119">TS</a>]
00:52:02 ◼ ► that I feel like the last 40 years has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3122">TS</a>]
00:52:05 ◼ ► just been just been changing the tools [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3125">TS</a>]
00:52:10 ◼ ► and and maybe it's equivalent to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3130">TS</a>]
00:52:13 ◼ ► years between 1830 and 1880 where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3133">TS</a>]
00:52:17 ◼ ► know we're building these creaky weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3137">TS</a>]
00:52:20 ◼ ► little railroads and and steam engines [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3140">TS</a>]
00:52:23 ◼ ► whir whir increasing productivity and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3143">TS</a>]
00:52:27 ◼ ► and creating cities but it wasn't clear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3147">TS</a>]
00:52:30 ◼ ► what that was going to be like and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3150">TS</a>]
00:52:31 ◼ ► all of a sudden in 1880 there was an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3151">TS</a>]
00:52:34 ◼ ► explosion of that technology and we also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3154">TS</a>]
00:52:39 ◼ ► that were like a long-term product of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3159">TS</a>]
00:52:43 ◼ ► the steam engine but it wasn't clear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3163">TS</a>]
00:52:46 ◼ ► what those were going to be so now we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3166">TS</a>]
00:52:48 ◼ ► had cities we have to solve city [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3168">TS</a>]
00:52:50 ◼ ► problems the steam engine was great for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3170">TS</a>]
00:52:52 ◼ ► that but then it did you know it did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3172">TS</a>]
00:52:54 ◼ ► change our lives or the internal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3174">TS</a>]
00:52:57 ◼ ► combustion engine you know changed our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3177">TS</a>]
00:52:58 ◼ ► lives and that's about to happen and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3178">TS</a>]
00:53:02 ◼ ► excited about it is what it is what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3182">TS</a>]
00:53:04 ◼ ► technology is is enabling us to do and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3184">TS</a>]
00:53:06 ◼ ► and now we're going to see what it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3186">TS</a>]
00:53:11 ◼ ► we've been in a train our whole lives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3191">TS</a>]
00:53:13 ◼ ► we've been in this kind of interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3193">TS</a>]
00:53:16 ◼ ► item where it's you know where we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3196">TS</a>]
00:53:19 ◼ ► kind of just been we've been taking all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3199">TS</a>]
00:53:23 ◼ ► those boxes of legal papers up in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3203">TS</a>]
00:53:24 ◼ ► attic and we've been in putting them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3204">TS</a>]
00:53:26 ◼ ► into the machines and and you know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3206">TS</a>]
00:53:31 ◼ ► we're on the cusp i guess but what my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3211">TS</a>]
00:53:33 ◼ ► mom was saying was it was kind of proof [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3213">TS</a>]
00:53:35 ◼ ► of that which is that we've been putting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3215">TS</a>]
00:53:38 ◼ ► everything into computers all this time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3218">TS</a>]
00:53:43 ◼ ► say it with me eyota MN not even not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3223">TS</a>]
00:53:48 ◼ ► even a partial bit not even an iota [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3228">TS</a>]
00:53:50 ◼ ► which is very small amount of iota right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3230">TS</a>]
00:53:53 ◼ ► because it's iotas all the way down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3233">TS</a>]
00:53:55 ◼ ► uh-huh anyway a right to me at John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3235">TS</a>]
00:54:02 ◼ ► oh dear and send me all the all of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3242">TS</a>]
00:54:06 ◼ ► ways in which that what I've just what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3246">TS</a>]
00:54:25 ◼ ► uh I wanted to like Moby Dick I found [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3265">TS</a>]
00:54:31 ◼ ► eight-year-old and so I thought when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3271">TS</a>]
00:54:34 ◼ ► was a twenty-year-old that I would read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3274">TS</a>]
00:54:35 ◼ ► it again and understand it and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3275">TS</a>]
00:54:38 ◼ ► I'm an enormous melville fan above the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3278">TS</a>]
00:54:41 ◼ ► other hand of his works well I had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3281">TS</a>]
00:54:45 ◼ ► read it in college and I had a class [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3285">TS</a>]
00:54:48 ◼ ► called American masterworks one semester [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3288">TS</a>]
00:54:51 ◼ ► and we read Absalom Absalom Moby Dick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3291">TS</a>]
00:54:56 ◼ ► and the ambassadors and I liked Absalom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3296">TS</a>]
00:55:00 ◼ ► Absalom alive but maybe not so much the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3300">TS</a>]
00:55:03 ◼ ► others but I got through me because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3303">TS</a>]
00:55:04 ◼ ► kept telling myself it was postmodern [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3304">TS</a>]
00:55:06 ◼ ► that like it's up there with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3306">TS</a>]
00:55:07 ◼ ► electric Chandi it's like one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3307">TS</a>]
00:55:09 ◼ ► original post modern books what I kept [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3309">TS</a>]
00:55:11 ◼ ► telling myself even though I never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3311">TS</a>]
00:55:13 ◼ ► completely understood that phrase meant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3313">TS</a>]
00:55:14 ◼ ► and it didn't actually helped make the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3314">TS</a>]
00:55:17 ◼ ► mhm I i preferred joseph conrad in every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3317">TS</a>]
00:55:21 ◼ ► in every respect but yeah I didn't and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3321">TS</a>]
00:55:25 ◼ ► you know I read tale of two cities again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3325">TS</a>]
00:55:30 ◼ ► obviously the worst of all those books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3330">TS</a>]
00:55:32 ◼ ► is Billy Budd Billy but it's herman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3332">TS</a>]
00:55:34 ◼ ► melville to write in billyburg silly but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3334">TS</a>]
00:55:37 ◼ ► that's all that's another one is on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3337">TS</a>]
00:55:39 ◼ ► ship right yeah unreadable unreadable I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3339">TS</a>]
00:55:41 ◼ ► you know here's the thing is that i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3341">TS</a>]
00:55:44 ◼ ► i was a good reader i was a big reader i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3344">TS</a>]
00:55:46 ◼ ► read a lot but it but there was a thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3346">TS</a>]
00:55:50 ◼ ► that happened you can think about stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3350">TS</a>]
00:55:52 ◼ ► I classics Illustrated there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3352">TS</a>]
00:55:53 ◼ ► definitely like a push in the sixties [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3353">TS</a>]
00:55:55 ◼ ► and seventies to get kids to want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3355">TS</a>]
00:55:57 ◼ ► read real books because it wasn't enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3357">TS</a>]
00:55:59 ◼ ► obviously you should never read a comic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3359">TS</a>]
00:56:01 ◼ ► book that's gonna write your mind you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3361">TS</a>]
00:56:02 ◼ ► know you don't get only read so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3362">TS</a>]
00:56:03 ◼ ► Henry Huggins before you become a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3363">TS</a>]
00:56:05 ◼ ► Dollard encyclopedia brown sure you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3365">TS</a>]
00:56:08 ◼ ► you how you gonna get really smart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3368">TS</a>]
00:56:09 ◼ ► unless you read these big thick European [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3369">TS</a>]
00:56:11 ◼ ► books well with Henry Huggins oh Henry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3371">TS</a>]
00:56:13 ◼ ► Huggins that boy you know with Ramona [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3373">TS</a>]
00:56:15 ◼ ► Quimby and his dog ritzy there was very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3375">TS</a>]
00:56:19 ◼ ► readable Judy solve crimes that per se [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3379">TS</a>]
00:56:22 ◼ ► not per se it's just you're pretty much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3382">TS</a>]
00:56:24 ◼ ► straightforward kind of kids book you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3384">TS</a>]
00:56:26 ◼ ► know for like their fourth grader like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3386">TS</a>]
00:56:30 ◼ ► encyclopedia my daughter and I we had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3390">TS</a>]
00:56:31 ◼ ► enough encyclopedia brown face now the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3391">TS</a>]
00:56:33 ◼ ► problem cyclopedia brown you get any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3393">TS</a>]
00:56:35 ◼ ► collection encyclopedia brown stories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3395">TS</a>]
00:56:38 ◼ ► and a couple of them are really really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3398">TS</a>]
00:56:42 ◼ ► we're like I didn't see that coming or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3402">TS</a>]
00:56:43 ◼ ► that was really smart I've read some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3403">TS</a>]
00:56:45 ◼ ► my daughter couple times we read through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3405">TS</a>]
00:56:48 ◼ ► there's usually a couple of those in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3408">TS</a>]
00:56:49 ◼ ► every collection that are actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3409">TS</a>]
00:56:51 ◼ ► really good detective stories and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3411">TS</a>]
00:56:53 ◼ ► rest are terrible and they're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3413">TS</a>]
00:56:56 ◼ ► the one some of them are terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3416">TS</a>]
00:56:57 ◼ ► because they're obvious ones that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3417">TS</a>]
00:56:59 ◼ ► really terrible are where the the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3419">TS</a>]
00:57:02 ◼ ► trick just doesn't make any sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3422">TS</a>]
00:57:04 ◼ ► there was one there was one that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3424">TS</a>]
00:57:05 ◼ ► about how could you tell that like he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3425">TS</a>]
00:57:08 ◼ ► didn't actually lose this karate fight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3428">TS</a>]
00:57:11 ◼ ► it's because he filled felt backwards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3431">TS</a>]
00:57:13 ◼ ► instead of forwards and stuff like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3433">TS</a>]
00:57:18 ◼ ► now the guy who who put his kid on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3438">TS</a>]
00:57:20 ◼ ► hood of the car that sure the hood [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3440">TS</a>]
00:57:22 ◼ ► should have still been hot because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3442">TS</a>]
00:57:26 ◼ ► encyclopedia around well met some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3446">TS</a>]
00:57:28 ◼ ► sherlock holmes stuff out there was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3448">TS</a>]
00:57:31 ◼ ► yeah absolutely but you know it's also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3451">TS</a>]
00:57:33 ◼ ► part of it was though that and I was I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3453">TS</a>]
00:57:35 ◼ ► was eight I may not a victim of this but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3455">TS</a>]
00:57:37 ◼ ► I was subject to this was hey let's make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3457">TS</a>]
00:57:40 ◼ ► these but you know me you know it's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3460">TS</a>]
00:57:42 ◼ ► great whenever the grown-ups want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3462">TS</a>]
00:57:43 ◼ ► make stuff palatable to kids which they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3463">TS</a>]
00:57:45 ◼ ► really mean it's like it's like tricking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3465">TS</a>]
00:57:46 ◼ ► your dog into eating pill by put in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3466">TS</a>]
00:57:48 ◼ ► peanut butter like that you know after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3468">TS</a>]
00:57:50 ◼ ► the dogs eat until it's gonna go you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3470">TS</a>]
00:57:51 ◼ ► just totally fucking tripping so like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3471">TS</a>]
00:57:53 ◼ ► remember I had a couple small collection [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3473">TS</a>]
00:57:55 ◼ ► of like inexpensive hardback books of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3475">TS</a>]
00:57:58 ◼ ► the classics but they had like fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3478">TS</a>]
00:58:01 ◼ ► covers but it was still a tale of two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3481">TS</a>]
00:58:04 ◼ ► cities inside yeah yeah I remember that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3484">TS</a>]
00:58:06 ◼ ► like where you try and make it more like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3486">TS</a>]
00:58:08 ◼ ► fun and update the covers and make it a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3488">TS</a>]
00:58:10 ◼ ► little hip and like it's still like i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3490">TS</a>]
00:58:12 ◼ ► never got past the first couple pages of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3492">TS</a>]
00:58:14 ◼ ► the tale of two cities did you ever see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3494">TS</a>]
00:58:15 ◼ ► the extreme-teen Bible now I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3495">TS</a>]
00:58:20 ◼ ► yeah Shawn Nelson found one of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3500">TS</a>]
00:58:21 ◼ ► one-time the extreme teen bible and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3501">TS</a>]
00:58:24 ◼ ► was the Bible updated for teens but not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3504">TS</a>]
00:58:27 ◼ ► just team all come on Xtreme team no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3507">TS</a>]
00:58:33 ◼ ► that's right and so it had like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3513">TS</a>]
00:58:36 ◼ ► certain I mean had been streamlined so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3516">TS</a>]
00:58:38 ◼ ► that all the King James talk was taken [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3518">TS</a>]
00:58:41 ◼ ► out of it and it was just like Jesus was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3521">TS</a>]
00:58:43 ◼ ► a righteous dude he made the fishes turn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3523">TS</a>]
00:58:46 ◼ ► into a mermaid the old shoe leopard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3526">TS</a>]
00:58:49 ◼ ► weather turning officials or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3529">TS</a>]
00:58:51 ◼ ► and something Matthew yeah like jumping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3531">TS</a>]
00:58:54 ◼ ► up and down and he said this and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3534">TS</a>]
00:58:56 ◼ ► everybody was like not that he was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3536">TS</a>]
00:58:58 ◼ ► yeah he ripped off an extreme holly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3538">TS</a>]
00:59:01 ◼ ► threat any that's right he carved a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3541">TS</a>]
00:59:04 ◼ ► major fucking boner word and then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3544">TS</a>]
00:59:08 ◼ ► know certain passages were in were in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3548">TS</a>]
00:59:11 ◼ ► red and then on the side there were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3551">TS</a>]
00:59:12 ◼ ► sidebars was like did you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3552">TS</a>]
00:59:15 ◼ ► Jesus never took any shit off nobody who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3555">TS</a>]
00:59:19 ◼ ► oh and it was it was fantastic we had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3559">TS</a>]
00:59:23 ◼ ► lots of fun with the extreme teen bible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3563">TS</a>]
00:59:24 ◼ ► and i think we may have read it aloud up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3564">TS</a>]
00:59:27 ◼ ► from stage on a particular time let me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3567">TS</a>]
00:59:29 ◼ ► ask the obvious question here so this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3569">TS</a>]
00:59:31 ◼ ► was not just a different cover on like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3571">TS</a>]
00:59:34 ◼ ► new standard translation they they did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3574">TS</a>]
00:59:36 ◼ ► their that was rewritten in extreme teen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3576">TS</a>]
00:59:38 ◼ ► ease really sure they still have on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3578">TS</a>]
00:59:41 ◼ ► chapters and verses or was it more like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3581">TS</a>]
00:59:44 ◼ ► mmm more like well you know they had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3584">TS</a>]
00:59:46 ◼ ► chapters and verses in that they pulled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3586">TS</a>]
00:59:48 ◼ ► out chapters and verses so that you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3588">TS</a>]
00:59:51 ◼ ► memorize the numbers so that you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3591">TS</a>]
00:59:52 ◼ ► use those to defeat other people in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3592">TS</a>]
00:59:54 ◼ ► arguments at that's key so you can just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3594">TS</a>]
00:59:56 ◼ ► be like john three sixteen what do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3596">TS</a>]
01:00:00 ◼ ► and so they absolutely did that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3600">TS</a>]
01:00:04 ◼ ► there are a lot of those sort of quotes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3604">TS</a>]
01:00:06 ◼ ► that are just like if you if if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3606">TS</a>]
01:00:09 ◼ ► in an argument with somebody who just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3609">TS</a>]
01:00:10 ◼ ► dropped john three sixteen on them and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3610">TS</a>]
01:00:14 ◼ ► that means a Stone Cold Steve Austin's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3614">TS</a>]
01:00:15 ◼ ► gonna kick your ass that's right that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3615">TS</a>]
01:00:17 ◼ ► not as extreme teen bible delivers just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3617">TS</a>]
01:00:20 ◼ ► what teams are looking for real answers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3620">TS</a>]
01:00:22 ◼ ► to life's tough questions all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3622">TS</a>]
01:00:23 ◼ ► innovative study helps our gear to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3623">TS</a>]
01:00:25 ◼ ► teen culture haha of that they are 15 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3625">TS</a>]
01:00:29 ◼ ► culture all the innovative study helps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3629">TS</a>]
01:00:31 ◼ ► ya wasn't are you going at Nelson's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3631">TS</a>]
01:00:34 ◼ ► extreme teen bible at written by Thomas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3634">TS</a>]
01:00:35 ◼ ► Nelson not having probably no relation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3635">TS</a>]
01:00:38 ◼ ► that may be why Shawn Nelson was first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3638">TS</a>]
01:00:41 ◼ ► turned on the extreme teen bible he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3641">TS</a>]
01:00:44 ◼ ► probably this was before search engine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3644">TS</a>]
01:00:47 ◼ ► sure so he would have been in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3647">TS</a>]
01:00:49 ◼ ► bookstore looking at all the books that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3649">TS</a>]
01:00:51 ◼ ► have been written by people named Nelson [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3651">TS</a>]
01:00:55 ◼ ► I mean it's just a guess seems like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3655">TS</a>]
01:00:58 ◼ ► oh gosh there's the official amazon.com [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3658">TS</a>]
01:01:00 ◼ ► reviewer extreme teen bible dares teams [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3660">TS</a>]
01:01:03 ◼ ► to crack open its pages and live up to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3663">TS</a>]
01:01:05 ◼ ► the cutting-edge standard found inside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3665">TS</a>]
01:01:07 ◼ ► can you fucking do it can you do it can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3667">TS</a>]
01:01:09 ◼ ► you crack it open you can be a chicken [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3669">TS</a>]
01:01:11 ◼ ► bock bock bock exactly you dare crack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3671">TS</a>]
01:01:16 ◼ ► translation o bad idea thoroughly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3676">TS</a>]
01:01:18 ◼ ► explained in teen for a black which up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3678">TS</a>]
01:01:20 ◼ ► always gonna be totally grunting fuck i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3680">TS</a>]
01:01:24 ◼ ► feel like this is how mark driscoll got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3684">TS</a>]
01:01:26 ◼ ► his start right the the famous Seattle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3686">TS</a>]
01:01:28 ◼ ► minister with tattoos who's like dude [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3688">TS</a>]
01:01:32 ◼ ► brah my wife is smoking hot to the max [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3692">TS</a>]
01:01:35 ◼ ► and i like to fuck and do it with her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3695">TS</a>]
01:01:37 ◼ ► over and over because that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3697">TS</a>]
01:01:39 ◼ ► Christian Way and you could submit you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3699">TS</a>]
01:01:41 ◼ ► know your wife needs to submit to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3701">TS</a>]
01:01:43 ◼ ► it's like a SNM ministry with a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3703">TS</a>]
01:01:46 ◼ ► rock and roll it had that's that's that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3706">TS</a>]
01:01:49 ◼ ► founded in the concept of like your wife [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3709">TS</a>]
01:01:53 ◼ ► that's that you know that's that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3713">TS</a>]
01:01:56 ◼ ► bible-toting and then I love that idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3716">TS</a>]
01:01:59 ◼ ► yeah they're seriously his congregation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3719">TS</a>]
01:02:01 ◼ ► had like 10,000 members and they all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3721">TS</a>]
01:02:04 ◼ ► were like what's up probably about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3724">TS</a>]
01:02:08 ◼ ► and you know and then it turned out that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3728">TS</a>]
01:02:10 ◼ ► he was just can you believe it he was he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3730">TS</a>]
01:02:14 ◼ ► was a little corrupt and contemptible no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3734">TS</a>]
01:02:16 ◼ ► fears no regrets just a future with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3736">TS</a>]
01:02:18 ◼ ► promise of future with a problem feature [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3738">TS</a>]
01:02:20 ◼ ► the promised future with oh I get it I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3740">TS</a>]
01:02:24 ◼ ► get the promises i get the few promising [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3744">TS</a>]
01:02:26 ◼ ► technology John it led to get GMO foods [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3746">TS</a>]
01:02:30 ◼ ► into your grocery store by email [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3750">TS</a>]
01:02:32 ◼ ► see this is a this is an incredible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3752">TS</a>]
01:02:36 ◼ ► uh-huh you don't have to die you go up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3756">TS</a>]
01:02:38 ◼ ► into space like that that's really the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3758">TS</a>]
01:02:41 ◼ ► first space travel is your soul going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3761">TS</a>]
01:02:44 ◼ ► into space its city we kid but this does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3764">TS</a>]
01:02:47 ◼ ► stuff from that same problem which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3767">TS</a>]
01:02:48 ◼ ► that you know we try you know when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3768">TS</a>]
01:02:50 ◼ ► you're trying to like guide a kid to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3770">TS</a>]
01:02:51 ◼ ► something you know is good useful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3771">TS</a>]
01:02:55 ◼ ► timeless like even cool like it's so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3775">TS</a>]
01:02:59 ◼ ► can't help it sound like you're like an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3779">TS</a>]
01:03:00 ◼ ► old man with a beetle wig when you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3780">TS</a>]
01:03:02 ◼ ► when you're trying to explain this stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3782">TS</a>]
01:03:03 ◼ ► haha you're my usual check out a check [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3783">TS</a>]
01:03:06 ◼ ► out Johnny Tremain this is really should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3786">TS</a>]
01:03:08 ◼ ► see what happens this kit all boy is he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3788">TS</a>]
01:03:10 ◼ ► ever overcome disability in the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3790">TS</a>]
01:03:12 ◼ ► extreme way haha you know our listeners [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3792">TS</a>]
01:03:16 ◼ ► may remember brother Gabe the Dominican [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3796">TS</a>]
01:03:18 ◼ ► monk who was a regular listener to our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3798">TS</a>]
01:03:21 ◼ ► program and maybe the reason portland [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3801">TS</a>]
01:03:22 ◼ ► now that's right many of them don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3802">TS</a>]
01:03:24 ◼ ► realize that brother Cape has become [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3804">TS</a>]
01:03:25 ◼ ► father cape in within within that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3805">TS</a>]
01:03:29 ◼ ► scope of our podcasts got from a bird to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3809">TS</a>]
01:03:32 ◼ ► a fur that's right now is a fur gay but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3812">TS</a>]
01:03:35 ◼ ► he gave his own parish I think they did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3815">TS</a>]
01:03:38 ◼ ► or maybe there's one group one priest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3818">TS</a>]
01:03:41 ◼ ► with a greater beard that's up up the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3821">TS</a>]
01:03:42 ◼ ► chain formation at a bar is in his robes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3822">TS</a>]
01:03:46 ◼ ► as always tricking appear don't know how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3826">TS</a>]
01:03:47 ◼ ► this guy gets so much dough but he's i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3827">TS</a>]
01:03:50 ◼ ► in a bar importantly totally give me a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3830">TS</a>]
01:03:51 ◼ ► church here only given much a whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3831">TS</a>]
01:03:53 ◼ ► church was not open anymore he they gave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3833">TS</a>]
01:03:55 ◼ ► him that he got an upgrade is not an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3835">TS</a>]
01:03:57 ◼ ► Oakland anymore he's extreme no fingers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3837">TS</a>]
01:04:01 ◼ ► so he's gonna be you carry these beads I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3841">TS</a>]
01:04:04 ◼ ► didn't think so he's probably gonna have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3844">TS</a>]
01:04:06 ◼ ► a lot to say about the extremity haha [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3846">TS</a>]
01:04:13 ◼ ► yea though i think the Bible he uses is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3853">TS</a>]
01:04:15 ◼ ► still hand illustrated and in Latin he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3855">TS</a>]
01:04:19 ◼ ► does a real-time translation into a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3859">TS</a>]
01:04:20 ◼ ► wish we could get a computer for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3860">TS</a>]
01:04:22 ◼ ► see I you know I do that all the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3862">TS</a>]
01:04:25 ◼ ► when people when people write me in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3865">TS</a>]
01:04:27 ◼ ► foreign languages i just go on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/3867">TS</a>]
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01:12:26 ◼ ► of the Balfour Declaration and how that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/4346">TS</a>]
01:12:29 ◼ ► changed the world and we're still worst [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/4349">TS</a>]
01:12:34 ◼ ► we're in a world that is absolutely a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/4354">TS</a>]
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01:12:39 ◼ ► of world war one like that's mine you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/4359">TS</a>]
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01:12:44 ◼ ► away from world war one you made you may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/4364">TS</a>]
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01:12:52 ◼ ► recommend media even when people you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/4372">TS</a>]
01:12:56 ◼ ► know address me directly and say please [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/4376">TS</a>]
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01:13:18 ◼ ► everybody has read enough reviews on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/4398">TS</a>]
01:13:21 ◼ ► internet they know what their take on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/4401">TS</a>]
01:13:22 ◼ ► should be and so there's not enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/4402">TS</a>]
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01:13:32 ◼ ► forgotten how to trust their own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/4412">TS</a>]
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01:13:48 ◼ ► were were advancing a pretty of you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/4428">TS</a>]
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01:13:57 ◼ ► greatest hits is the best-selling album [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/4437">TS</a>]
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01:14:04 ◼ ► eighties to write an article saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/4444">TS</a>]
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01:14:11 ◼ ► argue against you know a real group [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/4451">TS</a>]
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01:14:16 ◼ ► died there were all these all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/4456">TS</a>]
01:14:19 ◼ ► reflection pieces that were like well he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/4459">TS</a>]
01:14:24 ◼ ► sucked and his band sucked but I still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/4464">TS</a>]
01:14:30 ◼ ► kind of feel like he sucked and I and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/4470">TS</a>]
01:14:33 ◼ ► now he's dead and so i can't really like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/4473">TS</a>]
01:14:35 ◼ ► this is sort of a thing i'm writing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/4475">TS</a>]
01:14:38 ◼ ► commemorate that but he's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/4478">TS</a>]
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01:14:43 ◼ ► they're so now the the really radical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/4483">TS</a>]
01:14:46 ◼ ► stance to take is like I like to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/4486">TS</a>]
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01:14:54 ◼ ► a having reading lists that are too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/4494">TS</a>]
01:14:56 ◼ ► small in on something that runs through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/4496">TS</a>]
01:14:59 ◼ ► all these also is in my mind is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/4499">TS</a>]
01:15:01 ◼ ► implicit the first of all let me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/4501">TS</a>]
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01:15:07 ◼ ► can be very useful in this this is I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/4507">TS</a>]
01:15:09 ◼ ► don't know if we agree or disagree on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/4509">TS</a>]
01:15:10 ◼ ► this but I think it can be useful to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/4510">TS</a>]
01:15:12 ◼ ► give somebody a starting point with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/4512">TS</a>]
01:15:14 ◼ ► something so like with comics for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/4514">TS</a>]
01:15:16 ◼ ► example i will frequently say check out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/4516">TS</a>]
01:15:17 ◼ ► this comic or that comic boot huh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/4517">TS</a>]
01:15:21 ◼ ► we have the best place to start but but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/4521">TS</a>]
01:15:23 ◼ ► there are comics out there and i know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/4523">TS</a>]
01:15:25 ◼ ► but the thing is i will also ask them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/4525">TS</a>]
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01:15:28 ◼ ► novels you enjoy what TV shows do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/4528">TS</a>]
01:15:30 ◼ ► like not just for theme not just for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/4530">TS</a>]
01:15:32 ◼ ► like do you like Vikings or space people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/4532">TS</a>]
01:15:34 ◼ ► along the lines of what kind of stories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/4534">TS</a>]
01:15:36 ◼ ► do you like because just because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/4536">TS</a>]
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01:15:44 ◼ ► Drew's situation change ups and so I try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/4544">TS</a>]
01:15:47 ◼ ► to take all that in being the person is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/4547">TS</a>]
01:15:48 ◼ ► going to advise you where to start i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/4548">TS</a>]
01:15:50 ◼ ► want to call that into consideration and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/4550">TS</a>]
01:15:53 ◼ ► so I think that can be helpful but with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/4553">TS</a>]
01:15:56 ◼ ► that said I think I feel like sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/4556">TS</a>]
01:15:58 ◼ ► in this in this age there's something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/4558">TS</a>]
01:16:01 ◼ ► kind of implicit for a long time we call [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/4561">TS</a>]
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01:16:06 ◼ ► know about something in the Canon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/4566">TS</a>]
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01:16:11 ◼ ► like you know whatever like if somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/4571">TS</a>]
01:16:13 ◼ ► was talking about the old man and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/4573">TS</a>]
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01:16:15 ◼ ► ago yes and OSS and I I think sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/4575">TS</a>]
01:16:19 ◼ ► I feel like maybe what what you might be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/4579">TS</a>]
01:16:22 ◼ ► pushing back against I can't speak for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/4582">TS</a>]
01:16:23 ◼ ► you but is this cliff notes problem of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/4583">TS</a>]
01:16:26 ◼ ► people it it sounds like they're saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/4586">TS</a>]
01:16:30 ◼ ► what book should I read what books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/4590">TS</a>]
01:16:31 ◼ ► should I read but there's always part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/4591">TS</a>]
01:16:34 ◼ ► me that wants to say that feels like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/4594">TS</a>]
01:16:36 ◼ ► well there's also there's this tendency [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/4596">TS</a>]
01:16:38 ◼ ► that's like what book should i be able [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/4598">TS</a>]
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01:16:42 ◼ ► which is a different thing altogether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/4602">TS</a>]
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01:16:50 ◼ ► movie or whatever accidentally and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/4610">TS</a>]
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01:16:57 ◼ ► attachment to most other people don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/4617">TS</a>]
01:17:00 ◼ ► like it all or consider to be the worst [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/4620">TS</a>]
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01:17:04 ◼ ► have a special affection for because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/4624">TS</a>]
01:17:06 ◼ ► was yours and you discovered that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/4626">TS</a>]
01:17:07 ◼ ► always have that even if your critical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/4627">TS</a>]
01:17:09 ◼ ► faculties theoretically grow us still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/4629">TS</a>]
01:17:11 ◼ ► always enjoy that one even though you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/4631">TS</a>]
01:17:13 ◼ ► may not think it's the best one but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/4633">TS</a>]
01:17:15 ◼ ► can't know that unless you've sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/4635">TS</a>]
01:17:18 ◼ ► the problem is if you go into it loaded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/4638">TS</a>]
01:17:20 ◼ ► for bear and you have you read this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/4640">TS</a>]
01:17:22 ◼ ► you've read the the top ten novels you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/4642">TS</a>]
01:17:26 ◼ ► you've seen these listen all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/4646">TS</a>]
01:17:27 ◼ ► things you know that like there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/4647">TS</a>]
01:17:28 ◼ ► certain things that you can name check [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/4648">TS</a>]
01:17:30 ◼ ► that most people in the room are going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/4650">TS</a>]
01:17:34 ◼ ► to make make you sound cool that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/4654">TS</a>]
01:17:37 ◼ ► said that me and you didn't say that so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/4657">TS</a>]
01:17:39 ◼ ► if you see even though the Eagles had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/4659">TS</a>]
01:17:41 ◼ ► one of the greatest selling albums of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/4661">TS</a>]
01:17:42 ◼ ► all time several other than that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/4662">TS</a>]
01:17:44 ◼ ► probably it's not cool to say you like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/4664">TS</a>]
01:17:47 ◼ ► the Eagles because at some point we all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/4667">TS</a>]
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01:17:53 ◼ ► of it is that when you i don't know i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/4673">TS</a>]
01:17:56 ◼ ► don't want to feed into that I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/4676">TS</a>]
01:17:58 ◼ ► certainly been guilty of that I've gone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/4678">TS</a>]
01:17:59 ◼ ► and scurried to go learn about something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/4679">TS</a>]
01:18:01 ◼ ► as much as anybody else has but what but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/4681">TS</a>]
01:18:03 ◼ ► we're talking about something that feels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/4683">TS</a>]
01:18:04 ◼ ► especially feels like special to you you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/4684">TS</a>]
01:18:07 ◼ ► know you can't replicate the experience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/4687">TS</a>]
01:18:09 ◼ ► of having discovered something by having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/4689">TS</a>]
01:18:10 ◼ ► somebody hand you a list with three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/4690">TS</a>]
01:18:12 ◼ ► things on and say like these are three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/4692">TS</a>]
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01:18:28 ◼ ► can disagree passionately about what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/4708">TS</a>]
01:18:34 ◼ ► that problem is right what kind would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/4714">TS</a>]
01:18:37 ◼ ► even constitutes that problem and what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/4717">TS</a>]
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01:18:47 ◼ ► Africa like you think you understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/4727">TS</a>]
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01:18:55 ◼ ► infinitely complicated and so you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/4735">TS</a>]
01:18:57 ◼ ► you're jumping off point for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/4737">TS</a>]
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01:19:09 ◼ ► and depending you know you you are going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/4749">TS</a>]
01:19:14 ◼ ► to have your opinion either confirmed or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/4754">TS</a>]
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01:19:23 ◼ ► points to that argument it's in a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/4763">TS</a>]
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01:19:58 ◼ ► watching a miniseries about Carlos the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMPV454/4798">TS</a>]
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