194: A Real Imaginary Friend
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Kiki's flagging on broomstick and she
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has a cat now she's over a town which is
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a place where people live she's
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encountering problems with weather and a
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there which is here come some sea gulls
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watch out for the boot keep it a bit
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uncomfortable number 194 my 24-team
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welcome back to the uncomfortable
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podcast I'm your host Jason Snelling
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we're back to talk about another one of
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the movies of hayao miyazaki the great
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japanese animation writer director
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producer everything we did a whole
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episode about him that was just the only
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two person episode ever of the cover was
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just me and John talking about miyazaki
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movies and then we did the whole episode
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about my neighbor totoro with this very
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panel and I wanted to get the band back
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together because we had such a great
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time to talk about my favorite miyazaki
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kiki's delivery service joining me to
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talk about Kiki are John siracusa hi
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I'm ready is I i have no doubt you're
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ready we're not talking about Game of
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Thrones you know that right away what we
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know the scene where the cat murders
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that guy is just wow it was surprising
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gigi is coming that that's a steve lets
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you heard there I Steve know it's so
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good to be back in weird weird japan we
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get is smitten
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it's nice to be back here and and of
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course are our fourth member of our
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little of miyazaki movie club Marlon man
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I hi guys how's it going good to have
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you back
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that's great to be here everybody watch
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the movie has every seen the moving
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going to watch the movie now seeing this
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one couple three times
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yeah yeah I watched it uh I watched it
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today and i watched it with the Japanese
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audio track on the subtitles for i think
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only the second time although to be fair
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it was the last two times I watched him
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i watched it that way but i have it i
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feel like i have the disney dub version
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ingrained in my mind and that when we
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talk about anime this is always the
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issue is
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no what's the real version and there
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really isn't a real version unless you
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speak Japanese because you're either
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relying on the subtitles to tell you
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things is what we had that moment where
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my wife and I were watching it and
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saying oh well that's different in the
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in the in this version and we tried to
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describe a certain level of authority to
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the subtitles i'm not sure we can do
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that either so you definitely cannot
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because I don't know much Japanese but i
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know enough Japanese to know when the
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subtitles are incorrect very incorrect
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yeah i was looking on i think i think
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the wikipedia page even says like when I
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was suspicious about the let's have some
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hot chocolate and I was like that's
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coffee that's because why is she putting
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a lot of sugar in her hot chocolate is
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the book that most coarse ground hot
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chocolate I've ever seen in my life
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it's actually oval teed is that the boys
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in the town there's a disco right yeah
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you don't catch that all this done
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yeah well we can't have that would be
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crazy and i have no idea what they
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actually said but I even just minor
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things where the subtitles always spell
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things out where people are addressed by
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name or title
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okay dad I'll be right there and the
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actual dialogue is ok I feel fortunate
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in that apparently the there was quite a
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bit of controversy over the original
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disney dub of this although it
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apparently was okayed by miyazaki and
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dance studio ghibli is a good leader
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jiggly jiggly
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hey Benny you couldn't pronounce that
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you can I just I just I was reading that
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same thing today and it sounds like
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before you fire off the Horn I guess
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there was on there's 1i think pretty
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important plot point that sounds like it
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was completely different and yeah yeah
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yeahs the cat a cat related blood point
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captain yes exactly
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that's a really important one that
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changes the movie without what I had was
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it turns out i guess the 2010 disney dub
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where they actually yes scaled back some
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of the bombass that they added in and
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got rid of that particular messed up
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plot point and it works a lot better now
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i think and that's not the version i
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have i've got the you know whatever the
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previous DVD is what i have and this is
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a movie also that has been released on
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blu-ray in essentially every country in
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the world except the United States so
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far as i can tell
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so that's really nice thanks a lot
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disney disney yeah it kills me i will we
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didn't do this for a while because I was
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just waiting for that blu-ray to come
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out and it's like no no sign of it don't
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know what's going on
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once you once you get the gospel from
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siracusa and decided that it's time to
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watch it in whatever version you watch
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subtitled instead of dubbed it ain't
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easy to do by conventional means in the
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u.s. almost say about that yeah well you
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can buy me the DVD you can't buy the
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disney DVD and watching japanese with
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english subtitles and Howard Howard the
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subtitles they get well and get your own
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ego to like open subtitles what's your
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go-to for that job
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yeah fansubs usually are almost always
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better than the official subtitles
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because you can choose when you're
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picking your fansubs you can pick the
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pedantic fansubs who were going to do
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literal translations and then it's gonna
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read kind of like I mean it doesn't make
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sense to pass the time but you could be
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talking like that car
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this is exactly the literal translation
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of what they're saying you have to
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figure out exactly like it would be like
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a translation of some French think it
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would be like a lightning delivery mail
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and be like I think they mean email you
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know think that's you have to figure
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that way or you can do the fan subs are
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trying to catch the spirit of adore you
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mean you can just pick your fansub crew
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who you think does a good job I and get
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the experience you want out of it but it
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sounds like the subs on the disney
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version are based on the script for the
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the original dub that was only available
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on a laserdisc and on like Japanese
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airplane and so it's not based on the
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actual like it its it's got like oh the
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humanity which is not you notice that
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was in the subs of mine and I think it's
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yeah it's not in the dub it was enraged
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out of a job that I saw although i guess
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it was in the original one
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let's see the thing with all these
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movies is like movies that are are aimed
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at children are good for children if you
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have children you will find yourself
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inevitably watching the doubles because
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little children can't read yeah and even
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though i've had my children watch many
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subtitled movies where I pipe literally
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sat on the couch and read them the
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subtitles and just have them watch it
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that way
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most of the time to watch in English and
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so at this point I've seen this movie
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dubbed more times than I've seen it
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subtitled by far because my kids used to
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watch it over and over and over and over
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again and i have to say as far as
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dubs go this is a pretty good dub all
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things considered I mean it's very
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different from the original version and
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in the beginning I resented it because
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of that but like totoro there is a
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certain charm to the dub to this movie
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Matthew Lawrence notwithstanding I like
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the fact that the second that this 2010
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DVD doesn't you know doesn't use the
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disney disney pop songs that were
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inserted at the beginning and the end
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and goes back to the Japanese songs and
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right because that kind of rubbed me the
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wrong way there are a lot of there are a
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lot of differences in this movie between
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the the English dub and and just reading
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with the subtitles i think the cat is
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actually the biggest one right because
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GG right is this high-pitched you know I
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have a cat kind of voice and it's phil
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hartman in English up and Gigi says so
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much less to yeah he says a lot and he's
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a wisecracker an animal sidekick and me
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that's kind of a big deal really because
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I mean isn't he effectively supposed to
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be sort of the representation of kikis
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childhood there are sort of immature
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thoughts on court according to that fact
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that we are apparently read on the
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internet yes but I'm I don't entirely
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like that that maybe have been our
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intention when a tournament to phil
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hartman like it it's totally different
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and you can you can reject it and say
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well that's not how this movie is
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supposed to be but I still feel like
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phil hartman works as phil hartman in
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the context of the dub it works but it
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is real different I mean we're watching
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it in in the subtitled version uses a
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lot less it has a much more feminine
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voice I mean I guess I'm i don't i'm
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guessing GG still of a gendered boy I
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don't know
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well I is he has children later Lily it
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seems pretty clearly to be a girl
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well be normative the money shot circuit
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city is not feeling adoption service is
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also part of her it was the fifties and
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world war two hadn't happened was a
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complicated time
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but-but-but-but another sigh I don't
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want you know go crazy here but there's
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a lot that hinges on like what you
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think's going on with that cat and she
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told anybody says a lot less and GT
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really reads less as a wiseacre than
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english version and much more is like
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kind of
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overabundance of caution not a pessimist
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exactly but almost like the kind of
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nagging like what super-ego I guess you
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know that's kind of like telling her you
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will be careful what you're doing here
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but he goes with the flow much more in
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the original Phil Hartman does fill the
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role of you know
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c-3po oh my goodness should be going to
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the asteroid field blah blah right but
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there's almost no way that you can
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construe him as sort of a part of her
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subconscious and in that feeling away
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anyways she does not have that sort of
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wisecracker e-science and that's what
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that's what he's offering seems to be in
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a different movie because her reaction
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him is not the appropriate reaction that
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you would be you would expect to have 44
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you know for his character and in the
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dubbed version you know he's great
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though I i gotta say i absolutely love
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his character in this even though he's
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basically a feline Paul Lynde in fact I
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didn't even recognize the magical
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apartment
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originally I was trying to place the
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voices like a screw it i'm gonna go with
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Poland and that worked out fine for me
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because he gets all the best lines i
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performance that he did I mean the last
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performance it was was those last
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episode of newsradio but i think this
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was his last voiceover and you know yeah
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there are moments where you can tell
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like like there's the scene where at the
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very beginning where keys mom wants her
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to use use her broom once once Kiki use
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her old broom and not this new broom the
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key is made and kikis like it's old its
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stupid you know it's very teenager kind
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of thing to say and in the original the
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least what the sub says is she turns to
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G&G is like yeah you should use your
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mom's room and in the enemy in the dub
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it's like I don't know i think your
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broom is kind of crappy you should you
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you know let's take let's take the old
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one right it's just your broom is nice
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use your moms so intent yeah yeah yeah
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so it's a different it's just very
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different where he's he's acting as a
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character whereas in the original it
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does read sort of like this is the you
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know I know you're rebelling but you
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should just take it from your mother go
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ahead it's just different very different
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we could probably talk in large broad
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strokes about the story the story's
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pretty terrible without ruining the
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whole thing anything
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yeah let's let's little not much as
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usual after two not
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much not much happened that's what I
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said on our first miyazaki podcast I
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said that this is one of those movies
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where there is no real antagonist it's
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just sort of things happen and as I said
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at the time sort of like the weather the
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weather is an antagonist here and
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circumstance only very briefly I mean at
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any any given thing that would probably
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be like a horrible you know a time for
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something awful to happen in a regular
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disney movie or some other animated film
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is more or less resolved in a couple of
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seconds like his propeller takes off and
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you're expecting like something horrible
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to happen and you know next scene it
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cuts to the next scene is just sitting
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there with a propeller it's always
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realistic in a way that we said this in
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total episode that in the way the total
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was realistic not so much and that is
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magical flying things or that they're
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witches or anything like that but the
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characters behavior a little evil ways
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and the things that happened or sort of
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the mundane things that happen in life
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sometimes your mother gets sick
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sometimes people travel from place to
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place and pick vegetables and move into
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an old house sometimes you move to a new
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town you meet people you make friends
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you get your feelings hurt like but
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nothing it with the exception of the
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very end of the movie nothing out of the
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ordinary that might not happen in real
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life happens in this movie and you're
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always expecting it to be like well this
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has to be heightened drama or
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exaggerated action or surely something
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terrible or amazing or fantastic is
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going to happen and again until the very
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end which is still vaguely plausible
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kind of disaster type scenario it is
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very sort of run-of-the-mill and that I
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think is what draws me so much to this
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movie is that it feels it feels more
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like real life in a relaxed sort of way
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that lets you connect with the things
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that are happening you're just saying
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all these things could have or have
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happened to me with again with the
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possible exception of the end even
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though I'm not a witch or whatever i'm
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just not accustomed to these these
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gentle movements minutes every time I
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see something like we see key lighting
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the fire from the point of view inside
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the oven and the grandmother is looking
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on behind her sort of benevolently and I
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I keep finding myself thinking look at
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she's gonna push you in
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yeah that all of you are so they can
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burn the wig not not that kind of movie
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I know but it's it's that kind of stuff
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has been so ingrained for all the
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animated features i watched my entire
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life like something terrible is going to
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happen to parents gonna die
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you know she's gonna lean too far off
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over the side of the bike and shred her
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ear off on the road to heaven watching
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watching these movies with my kids when
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they were little and we we all watched
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it as a family today with the subtitles
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on which is fun because again they're
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all they all can do it now but watching
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when they were little you know my both
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of my kids my son especially but both of
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them when they were like really scary
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moments are there were really bad people
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they would hide or they wouldn't like it
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and one of the great things about these
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miyazaki movies and especially about
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Kiki is there's nothing like that in
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here it's a great it's a really great
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fun movie but there that that is not
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there isn't a villain who is doing
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villainous things it's just it's it's
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very different and it ended you know the
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whole movie feels different because of
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it she has no enemy that she's bad right
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at any point right yeah i don't know i
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don't have enough to if it's an anime
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thing but it definitely is like miyazaki
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thing that they're very spacious about
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making this story I mean one other way
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that it's like totoro to me at least in
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my own head is that you know childhood
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growing up really your whole life but
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especially up through your teen years
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you're just constantly confronted with
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things that just kind of makes sense and
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you know and whether there's all kinds
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of stuff especially intro we're like we
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said before like did that really happen
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or not know maybe it doesn't matter in
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some ways in the movie it's just that
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for a kid
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there's so much mystery to stuff that
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happens there's so many things that you
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can't understand you try to base on a
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previous experience and that
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spaciousness of not having somebody
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tried to poison you with an apple or not
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trying to throw you into an oven
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there's a lot of space for this to be
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about the kind of personal terminally he
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says as much i need i read one of the
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things an introduction to the maybe the
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manga of this where he said you know
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that this is it's it's not difficult to
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go out and be on your own and make money
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it's difficult to have like
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self-realization until I grow up that's
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the hard part and I think that's that
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spaciousness really works in these
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movies once you once you get past
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expecting an anvil to fall on somebody
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you know things like in the pacing of
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this movie and most of his movies like
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most anime it has a focus on kind of
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sensory experiences as several many many
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scenes in movies involved but even if
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you just look at the pacing of like he
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just showed three shots and that didn't
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include the main character that had no
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I'll our music going over them just as
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sort of a way to transition you from one
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day they weren't establishing shots or
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whatever it's like so many scenes in
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this movie if you tear it apart you're
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like wait a second that like someone had
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to sit there and draw that scene that
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scene in that scene and between this 60
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seconds there's no dialogue and like not
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like why is that even in the movies like
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we got to make it fast you gotta cut you
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have tighter it's got to be action
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action we got a dialogue scene right you
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know and this movie is not like that and
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and i think the lingering on those
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things it's not it's not like a Malik
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film like he's not lingering on you like
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a tree growing out from an acorn
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something like it's not it's not that
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level but it is very much influences the
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pace and experience of watching this
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movie maybe not for kids maybe only for
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adults but i watch it and you know if I
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haven't seen a movie in a long time i'm
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just always amazed that sort of how it
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how just unwind and just sort of rolls
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out in front of you and it had its own
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pace sort of at the pace of life instead
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about the pace of like narrative there's
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a particular scene in that in that vein
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that really stood out for me which is
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when there's very deliberate long seen
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if Kiki at the bakery counter just
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staring out the window sort of your
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flight and reflections of people walking
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by and see if it's there it's its total
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silence and she's watching you know that
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the boy on the bike pulls up and the
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girl gets on the bike and drives on and
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it's just it but that's it that's their
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version of an action scene like we're
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getting married of things like because
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now it's like what happens
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she's bored she's inside she has to work
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the girl that the boy comes up in the
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scooter the girl who's better dressed
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than she is gets on the bike gets on the
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bike sidesaddle and they go off together
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and she remains inside like that and yes
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there are many scenes in here that have
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no dollar but that's like an action
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scene is like oh we are developing the
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character we're showing we are showing
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how she feels
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by showing what she sees even though she
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has a slight expression the entire time
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sort of like bringing bringing you into
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the inner life of this girl without
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giving you a voiceover even as an action
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scene though I mean it's just so many
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frames where there's just nothing
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happening nothing's moving thats quiet
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there's silence and you would never see
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that many frames go by without something
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happening in a an american animated film
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and I love that about it i think it's
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great i wrote that particular bit down
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because it just struck me you know this
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is so so different from what I'm used to
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you know growing up watching handlebar
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Berra cartoons & you think of the
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running joke about how you keep running
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past the same window over and over and
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there's so much like unnecessary
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I mean a positive way unnecessary luxury
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to the pacing of the scenes but also the
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incredible amount of detail and the
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glistening water and stuff but I mean
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how many cartoons have you watched where
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it's just people eating for a few
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seconds or like Kiki waking up and you
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hear you when she wakes up in a room and
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she hears i just noticed this time
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watching it like I think it's that she
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had like a boat going by and she rolls
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over and look at the sheet uncovers GG
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and she kind of stirs a little bit and
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then crawls back under the sheet
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it's just a delightful little little
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tone not necessary to anything about
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pushing the plot forward but you know in
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the same way it's like you're saying
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Steve the earlier Steve I think it's
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hard for somebody like me to readjust
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when you're expecting that ridiculous
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amount of pacing but you know the the
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scenery and the background and the
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activity and that most mundane to you i
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guess you could say is is really as I
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want a character in the movie it's so
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important that this not be pasted that
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to that amazing you know third act and
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suddenly it's like an explosion of
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you're like wow this is like a whole
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different movie now there's stuff
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happening really underscores that even
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action scenes they have for example when
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they decide to do action even if it's
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just like oh she's leaving home and
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she's going along and she's like you
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know floating on her broom and then it
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starts to rain and that tiny sequence of
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it starts to rain zoom along the top of
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the thing going it's a couple seconds
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long or whatever but they do a good job
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again with going down the hill on the
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bike leaning into the turns that is a
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very well done exciting action scene
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it's like boy where it's as if the
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camera is like still and lingering in
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common with the action scenes come the
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camera knows exactly what to do to make
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the action scenes exciting in short
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bursts building up to the big finale on
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but even in the middle like when they
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when they need to do that they do it
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very very well and you know and go back
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to real life and it its it's like her
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life where it's mostly just the mundane
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part of living your life punctuated by
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these significant events it's great that
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they can they can do something that sort
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of action-packed without necessarily
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having a whole bunch of craziness going
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like during that sequence where she
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leaves home that you're talking about i
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just made a note this flying sequence
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actually feels dangerous and it really
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does because they do such a good job of
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making her seem like she's unsure on her
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broom and she's clearly unbelievably
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high up in the air and it just you watch
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that and there's not that much going on
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relatively on screen but yet you know i
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was getting vertigo watching the thing I
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liked to seen the the in terms of a
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hanna-barbera style animation the thing
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that i noticed i mean when she goes and
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visits her friend painter in the
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countryside I had that moment its like a
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this is Miyazaki's like finally the
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countryside I could do my all my totoro
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stuff like a big trees and water
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glistening and and you know that's nice
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and and you know field stretching out to
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heels in the background but early on
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there's the scene where she's the first
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person she encounters when she's on her
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broom is this other witch who's who's
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bitchy right she's like a nice night
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isn't it well it was this terrible but
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uh there's kiki is learning to fly and
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at one point the the witch asked her to
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turn off a radio and she reaches Davis
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exact noted she reaches down to turn off
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the radio and the broom Bob's down and
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she has to compensate and get it back to
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come back up because just the act of
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leaning forward like that it's like
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taking your hands off the steering wheel
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it you know she's not an expert at
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keeping level and then she bobs back up
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and it's a little moment but it you know
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that that's a lot of animation work to
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do that and yet it feels so much more
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real because then you realize she is
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struggling to keep it together and you
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know it's not easy for her but you know
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again if you're coming quarters and as
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an animator you would never show
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something like that because it gives you
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hints about the physics of flying broom
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and you know and it's not in a straight
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line and and yet we see it in in this
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movie and and i love that i absolutely
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love that that's the luxury of miyazaki
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movies is that you know like so that
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first of the miyazaki movies on is the
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traditional ones they have beautifully
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painted background which are more or
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less static they may pan across them or
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like zoom in on me
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whatever right and those are beautiful
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like paintings in and of themselves and
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you have the character animation / and
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you know no matter how minor the scene
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in a feature-length miyazaki movie
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that's no matter what the scene is some
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person put their entire life and being
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into that scene so I'm not the note that
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i have in this is the but you have to
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which is flying alongside each other and
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then in a lesser movie any lesser
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animated movie the two people will be
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flying alongside each other and talking
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and they would never be that Bob and
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then if you watch it with the daily note
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that has it she bobs when she adjusts
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the radio when she comes back up she
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really just her dress because she wants
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to regain her composure so that you can
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continue having a conversation and some
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guy had to animate those you know 200
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frames of animation or whatever it is
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and like eat he or she poured their
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heart and soul into that animation and
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thought about I mean occupy key frame to
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do whatever and that like there are no
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like oh and this is just a scene where
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this dialogue so don't worry about it or
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this isn't a big same route are going
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better or in this scene bridge in this
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scene we're just worried about the
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background so don't worry about like
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every single moment you know and that's
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the luxury of these movies like you know
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they just poured every ounce of time and
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money and effort into it it's like the
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you know this able to get apple hardware
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whatever someone sweats over every
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little detail in a future like miyazaki
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someone supposed to every little detail
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kids are not going to notice this but it
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allows adults to rewatch these things
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again and again and pick out new things
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every time I saw that cumulative effect
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what you're describing and you know it
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when you're saying that i'm thinking
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like in any other movie the two broom
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sticks with literally be parallel and
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equidistant the entire time the two
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characters are talking and you know it
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now I'm thinking about that more now and
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I'm realizing like from through the
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entire movie there's one thing that's
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always sustained that adds to her
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character something you don't see a lot
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which is that she really has to
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concentrate to fly you know usually
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which hop and she's going on a chopper
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and taking off and in this case where
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you can really tell that it's taken
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especially at the end when she's
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actually like my favorite scene in the
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movie where she's sweating because
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you're spiring to try and be able to fly
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which is going to mojo back
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but that whole sense all the way through
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that you know what a weird balance it is
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though that we could see this 13 year
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old girl who has trouble flying or never
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liked that worried that she's gonna like
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you know flying door
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heller blade or something there's not
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that constant sense of danger I'm kind
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of worried when when she in the credits
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when she's right in front of pacing
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tambo and his little bicycle airplane i
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have a little worried about hurting
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people that someone actually yes
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somebody's very enthusiastic kind of
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just like just don't take your eyes off
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the ball here to here you get chopped up
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is a very enthusiastic young man that's
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what I worry about it but not until that
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point I think my biggest moment of
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concern is in that end sequence where
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she's getting along maybe a foot above
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the ground
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oh yeah that there's sort of a star wars
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trench sequence that goes on really
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really just like she's on a skateboard
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at that moment right she's like she
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doesn't land on the ground but she's
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she's flying inches off the ground and
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the camera is low downright the
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perspective there is work where we're
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low at ground level and we're watching
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her just kind of skitter across the the
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the street to get to that to the airship
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she's got that stance of like those
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knobs that drive there
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suzuki motorcycles down the freeway with
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their bare feet up on the back of the
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also she's um I early on talking about
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how she flies in the way it works when
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she first takes off she you know she
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kind of goes sideways and she hits a
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tree and then she hits another tree and
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and in the ne in the subtitle version
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you see the she you see you go over one
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tree right and and uh and then another
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tree shake so there's an implied
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collision and then the father says oh
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she's you know now she's over the lake
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she'll be fine but you don't see you
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don't you don't see her take off into
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the horizon flying straight like any
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other movie would write like she's
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writing herself now and she's figured
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out how to fly
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no she was nowhere in sight she's not
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going straight she's going sideways she
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doesn't have it together and then and
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it's funny because then you see your go
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past the one tree and you're like well
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now what and the other tree shakes and
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you're like no she's got again but in
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its much played much broad much more
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broadly in the Disney dub version where
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the whole way you can actually hear i
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think GG and there's a little bit of
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Kiki kind of like you know not that dro
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there we go again right there's there's
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many ways but more dialogue in the
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american version because the Japanese
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versions of all these films they trust
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the audience understand what's going on
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about having characters you know what
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having characters just you know spell
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out what's going on or have the
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reassuring line of dialogue to make sure
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you know what's happening or that you
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know what here comes with it
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that's that seems to be the way they
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take anime and bring it to America like
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well obviously we need our characters to
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talk more soon as characters aren't on
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the screen and they can add lines to
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them because the mouth what you want to
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see the mouth moving like they're
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off-screen it's like yeah start putting
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a dialogue so the kids can follow along
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and that the Japanese movies just trust
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kids and adults and everyone to be able
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to understand what's going without
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saying anything and took to their credit
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like they have like long sequences in
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this movie where for example she
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delivers the herring pine the rain and
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it's wet and tombos waiting for her and
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she comes back home and she has a couple
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words with a sauna going up the stairs
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but there's a long sequence where she
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just kind of like silently returning and
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walked into her room and then walks up
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to her bed and then does the big flop on
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the bed because again totally realistic
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and that whole long sequence doesn't
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have any words or even facial
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expressions let you know what she's
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thinking but they trusted like you will
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understand her situation you know what
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she's thinking when she flops headfirst
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onto the bed it is not a shock because
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that's exactly what we all expected to
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do at that point because we are with her
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emotionally through the entire sequence
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and it's not because there was a
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voiceover or there was yelling or
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bakery it's like this for you do keep on
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this feel very different in that way
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about the Japanese countryside all
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cities but it is a real living City that
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your friend it's just a city where
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ideal lot it is idealized to integrate
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they have everything they have the
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beautiful scenery that nice people they
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have good bakeries you can live in the
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woods and drink resetar birds
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yeah right which is why would you
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deliver stuff yeah yeah I'm not not not
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what this movie is showing right it's
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streets and things like that and then
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paint Kiki but definitely not naked in
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the village definitely is it has it
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vaguely Germanic feel although tombos
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Scandinavian countries but it's like
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yellow one purple and I'm like all going
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crazy flag is that well when I'm when I
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okay is this the yellow one the blue or
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is this the yellow on the red or is this
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see if the guys don't make everything in
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X or even come on don't do that but but
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purple yellow and purple like I'm
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confident is not an actual country
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that's the made-up country that Kiki
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they get to the once you get to the town
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she causes a traffic jam and almost an
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trouble with the police by saying help
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beef somebody stole my something and and
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she runs the other way which I i like
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that moment of you know she is here she
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it's evening you know she needs to find
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a way she could tries to go to the hotel
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and they're like you know what are you
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talking about you don't have any
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identification you're just a kid sitting
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silently with the uneaten sandwich
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yes well done until until the cat eats
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as the Sun as the sun goes down you
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don't need her to talk to the cat back
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and forth for an entire scene of
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dialogue oh what are we going to do you
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just a bum about you don't need to do
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that you just need to have her sit there
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with your arms at your side with food in
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front of her not eating it and have the
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the cats a Kiki that's all you need you
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don't need to spell out what's going on
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so all that desperation and the feeling
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when she when she has that moment where
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the cop is so you stay right here and
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she's like I'm gonna go this way it's
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that it's like she's yes he should
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probably stay right but she's like it's
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going to be complicated it's gonna ruin
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her chance and it's again it's it's not
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a really nasty kind of she's desperate
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and needs to find a way to survive but
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that's what's happening here is she's
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disobeying the police to do think she's
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worried about most with the cop is that
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he's going to tell her parents
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yeah yeah yeah she wants to get on with
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her life she wants with this new life
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that she's dedicated herself to doing
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yeah and also not have her parents find
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out that she started a wreck also john
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you talk about that the the beautiful
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moments a little tiny details that some
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animator somewhere spent the there's a
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moment where tambo is in in that scene
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where he reveals that he cleverly made a
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diversion
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he is looking at her and riding his bike
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and almost runs into a garbage can
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yeah and has to adjust and go around the
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garbage can it's just like you don't
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it's amazing detail that's like that is
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detail of from a live-action world but
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they animated the whole thing and you
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can feel you again you can feel the
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physics of it you can see that he has to
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swerve many as to get back his bike back
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to straight and the b-bumps the garbage
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can and it and she wants the garbage can
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but he doesn't like he doesn't like
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Harpo Marx it into the garbage can know
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that he's trying to is trying to keep
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his composure you know I know it sounds
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silly but it's like I'm still burning
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off you know 40 years of of watching
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american cartoons and you know I get a
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little while and it's funny and it's
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real and then the movie goes on and
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tombos interest in her this is this is
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the you know I more cliche is that we
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this movie avoids that armors Atomos
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interest in her is because she is flying
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it's not while look at this gorgeous new
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girl that's flown into tent like it
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the in every other movie that the
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females only worth is how is how nice
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she looks and so that the first if you
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if there's some sort of something that
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happens at first sight it's like wow
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look at her like it even something like
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you know how to train your dragon where
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what's your name comes walking slow
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motion with explosion behind
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I'd like the whole point is she's
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beautiful and beautiful is is the way
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women are valuable and therefore and I
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mean that's fine for what it is but like
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the in this movie
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tambo is interested in her because she
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can fly literally fly and he is obsessed
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with flying and yes he's obviously you
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know it
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interested in our and kind of a
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boyfriend-girlfriend kind of way as well
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but that is not the plot of this movie
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that's not how this movie's gonna be
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resolved it's not important to this
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movie and he has a legitimate interest
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in her that is based on something that
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she can do that he can't he's just so
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flying around for pete's sake
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yeah well there's gonna be a huge party
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at the Flying Club the aviation club
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yeah and I've tried at the first couple
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times the movie I was lumping tambo in
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with the rich kids but now if you want
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to look closely like he is he's well off
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but he's not like the giant house on the
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cliff overlooking to see well off like
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his he lives in the sort of middle-class
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part of town and any place overlooking
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to us buyers to they all live on the
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cliff of what I'm talking like the one
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where they bring the little toy cat
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where that was like actually i own this
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entire Peninsula ok for the fashion
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designer woman who is like the fashion
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designer woman is not his mother right
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his mother just a regular person he's
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got a propeller on his bike his friends
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cars could piss like is probably the
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rolls-royce but a beat-up rolls-royce
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like you know that his friends going so
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yeah there's this definitely class
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structure going on here at this point of
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the movie I i really like that they
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don't make a big deal about the fact
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that she's which I mean it's just
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witches exist in this world and people
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know about it seems like their influence
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may be fading you know at least in the
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big cities but you know the time frame
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is modern it's like my grandmother told
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me right at least they have like
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electric ovens you know so it's not it's
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not easy but we're not going wrong in
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the past when which is in talking cat
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still roamed the land sort of territory
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key now there's airplanes and electric
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ovens but they're also old ladies who
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are suspicious of the electric ovens but
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that's a good part in the beginning of
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this movie like when this movie starts
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you you know from the posters or
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whatever that's gonna involve the witch
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riding on a broomstick but if you like
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my kids into the posters if you just
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bring a little kid into this clean and
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you see the mom making potions and stuff
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like that
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the movie has to eventually established
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like the rules of the universe
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and right up to the point where Kiki you
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know straddle the broom to leave her
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house and her hair starts ripping like
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that you're not sure what's up you're
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like well as witches and I guess they
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have dresses it seems like a normal
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family and they were gonna go camping
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and yes the moms potions or it's not a
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big deal but then it's like nope you can
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actually fly and it's magic is dramatic
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and it's beautifully animated and you
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know that is an exciting moment I think
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in the film for a little kid because
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they don't know what the rule if you
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don't show them the poster ahead of time
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with you shouldn't they don't know what
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the rules this world are up front and
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the animation when she takes off is is
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beautiful and and wonderful and not at
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all mundane like the act of flight is
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acknowledged for what it is like this is
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amazing and everyone who sees you do it
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to like she just flew did you see I mean
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it's not like they shouldn't be not
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falling over like they would be
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realistically speaking but it is it is
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given credit as as a important
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impressive thing through the how long
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they spend on it and how well it's
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animated the I was I I'm gonna mention
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the bakery now and I was trying to prep
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by its duty upon yeah but it's
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apparently pronounced gucci keep on
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which okay ponyo location which is taken
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from rock-scissors-paper fruit energy
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balagia haagen-dazs Tanya's bakery what
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they did in the dub they call the good
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cooking pan bakery which I thought was
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clever because they tried to try to get
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the same sounds into an english we're
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not the I like so there's all this all
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connects because for some reason a lady
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with a baby left the pacifier at the
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bakery and what let's talk about the
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first lady with the baby massively
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pregnant Osan oh yes well that's what i
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was going to say it so a giant huge
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pregnant lady comes out of the stores
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like a lady forgot your uh and so we
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meet us on oh yeah so what we're in the
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fifties I know they had two separate
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beds like i was at Ozzie and Harriet
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have the separate beds and they have the
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beds together and I was someone had the
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best I don't know the history of i
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cannot tell anybody
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listen Ricky yeah I seem to recall that
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like saying the word pregnant on early
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television was somewhat frowned upon and
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like in general like acknowledgement of
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the human reproductive process took a
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long time to come into live-action
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television for adults in our country can
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you think of another car
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tune that acknowledges human
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reproduction is a great showing a
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massively I mean maybe tom and jerry did
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it because they did a lot of raunchy
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stuff they're having and pretend to be
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pregnant at some point I don't know but
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like it she is it like an ad of the
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people must move your style is right but
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she's more or less the anatomically only
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slightly exaggerated gigantic pregnant
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moment in a cartoon for children and
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that shouldn't be impressive because
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that's how we all got here but so much
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cartoons for children or any program for
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children does not acknowledge how people
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come to be at all and this movie doesn't
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shy away from it and there it is and
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it's a very important part of the movie
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because she is one in a long line of
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potential role models for Kiki which we
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should get to at some point listing
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those out and I think that is an
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important part of the movie that I'm at
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sad that it's surprising or shocking but
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this is one phase of one possible phase
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of a woman's life
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also let's not forget that in most
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movies if you have a pregnant lady her
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being pregnant is an important part of
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the plot because the title character is
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that why else would she be pregnant is
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something is going to happen with her
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pregnancy and you know what happens in
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the pregnancy in this
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nothing is worth over the reddit there's
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you see that she's now had a baby
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well it's something some respects it's
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important because that's why she needs a
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little help around the beach for sure
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but I mean it's just not you
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she could say hey I need some help
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around the bakery I've been meaning to
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hire somebody but instead she's a giant
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presently when it's it's not emblematic
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of some problem in her relationship or
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or a big source of tension with no with
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her mate for the child is not a prophecy
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baby will have to hope they will bring
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the end of the world that we know John
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that we know right it's not it's not
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going to be secretly that's the Kings
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baby and there's nothing like that one
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of the things i do notice is that what
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only one of Gigi's cats kittens
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yeah black kitten and that black kitten
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comes with him to learn so that he can
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be presumably a kitten or a black cattle
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of the future which and I thought our
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the baby will be the next gen and I
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thought no this is not i gotta stop that
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means gigi is a horrible racist
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teammates with a white puffy cat needs a
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black not puffy but he does it once it
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when one kid got his
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mastic jeans the other ones are nice and
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composed and that one is this path
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station after the thread and fallin also
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in this universe the boy cats are all
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black and not puffy and the girl cats
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are all white and puffy
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I think that's cool what we learned
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small sample size
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yeah those are the only cats we see
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really so i could be wrong
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there's another can actually on the the
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other witches broom stick at the
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beginning yeah used to be female
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yes baby back at like stuck stuck up cat
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stuck-up witch
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yeah so I sano it was her role that the
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the panoply of role models that are
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presented to Kiki throughout this movie
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she's kind of in the middle here and
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she's showing the possibilities of
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motherhood
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this is one thing you can do is a woman
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as you can you give birth
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she's a business owner yes she's
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assertive I she is is not like as you
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mentioned not not sort of no pun
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intended coward by her pregnancy and she
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is pregnant she's pregnant but continues
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to to do all the things that she does
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she's also kind and charitable to Kiki
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but also expects her to you know to to
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work and earn her keep
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you know she's not just sitting in a
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rocking chair like standing herself and
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exhaling right exactly and even even at
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the end of the movie when she gives
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birth she's standing on the hill
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weatherhead up to her you know shielding
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her brow looking at Kiki flying through
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the air and the husband has the baby and
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is feeding it right but this is one
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possible future for Kiki I up until that
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moment are we even sure that he's her
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husband
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yeah it took me a while i think is great
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i didn't get that was another about on
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the screen
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baking is this is a strong silent type
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clearly it was a particle he's working
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there to like he's making sure that the
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two of them have a business together
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sure I guess what bun in the oven get it
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went to bakers love each other very much
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too so maybe he's just helping out at
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the end but is that how it works is that
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there's a man and a woman and there's a
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baby is that I don't know this mayne
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ever seen as an animated film before
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interesting but you're right in a lesser
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film the the thing at the end that it
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allows Kiki to fly again would have been
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you know the the emergency pregnancy as
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as opposed to the Zeppelin you know
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which of courses for college if it does
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have a convenient timing was like they
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have as the movies ending we need to get
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her into labor she's like okay time to
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you know right but I mean yeah it's
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still totally incidental it just happens
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to happen at that point it's it's not
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the focus of the film although she is
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still rather Zeppelin like come to think
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yeah I think she might have been a
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second so the first the first throw
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model the interstate his life is there
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besides her parents when she leaves home
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is the other girl in the broom who shows
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like at the end of your year which
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training this could be you you know
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worldly-wise but also a little bit
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stuck-up and full of herself and she
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goes into a town that smaller than the
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town to keep you will eventually end up
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in there is a difference in the dialogue
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between English and Japanese of as to
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whether kinky like is this town big and
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impressive to Kiki does the stuck-up you
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only think it's big and Kiki doesn't
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believe that or whatever but this is
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she's seeing a potential of her future
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self and deciding perhaps that she
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doesn't want to end up like that whereas
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when she sees asano this is another
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possibility that she may not want to
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look like that either but it is a a
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nicer possibility yes but it's funny
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it's like almost like you know what you
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can have one which every town it's like
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a mime or something it's like we can
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have one of these in town it's not
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really that like overwhelmingly weird
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the thing that really differentiates
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arisen that she's a witch is that she's
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a pumpkin
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you know what i mean and she doesn't
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include provincial right yes I mean yeah
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yeah she's a country mouse and the the
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witch with a green eyed cat has clearly
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she's figured out her trade and it's
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very proud of having done that and again
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key expires that again that's just a
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little bit of pot pushing forward of
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like how much she really wants to
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succeed at this she wants she wants to
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be a big kid she's been waiting for this
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thing to happen and and i think that i
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don't know i think that that they do a
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nice job of not over doing that with her
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character but it really well establishes
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that she's very motivated to try and
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make it in this place even she has no
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reason to think that she would succeed
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there she's not swept along by the plot
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either every part of this movie she is
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an active participant in making happen
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she decides that she wants to leave even
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though she had previously planned the
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next night she decides it's going to be
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clear night full moon I want to leave
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now she tries to take her broom and like
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her mother
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search the last little bit of motherhood
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before she leaves you know like she her
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actions drive this plot forward her
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decisions and her wanting to do things
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she's not like suddenly caught up in an
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adventure that she's swept along in or
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she liked it you know compared to like
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kind of billboard like has adventure
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thrust upon him she makes all these
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changes in her life happen but through
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food deciding to do something if I were
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that helicopter dad though I mean I
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guess maybe the cats are familiar or
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something but i would have really given
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her driving skills I would have tried to
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talk her out of driving with a cat on
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the broom yeah you can get back the
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vision on that how that goes once you
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teach your daughter how to drive and how
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and how accepting this issue of your
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instruction well she did at least listen
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to his admonition that she should make
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the cat to in the radio while she yeah
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that's right the cat is there is the
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kind of that song that is such a great
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pop song which wondering what the
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Japanese Japanese only the Japanese one
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yeah although I i'm curious about what
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the theme song is saying but I it's got
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to be something that's totally on the
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nose it's a very fifty sock-hop gonna
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know it's from it isn't it from I
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thought I run the fact that essentially
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is actually a pop song from the
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seventies yeah but the style the Royal
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is a a fifties saw cop yeah well I mean
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it in the seventies and even Japan loves
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to make their own invitation versions of
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you know fifties American about a woman
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who's going to tell her boyfriend's
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mother about him and get him in trouble
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and admonished I think it's the thrust
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is what's called what's the song called
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rogue group called i was on youtube you
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can go and don't have a confront what's
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the song like that the the song that
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they replaced it with in the previous
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one is it just puts it like the most in
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most cases i don't like when they
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replace the Japanese song with an
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English with an entirely different songs
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it's usually terrible but the songs this
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one are not they're not super terrible
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its jail
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yeah it say that it's an incredibly
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generic happy disney pop right around
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the not but that insulting
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yeah they're not insulting there not
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knowing that that the lyrics are not
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insulting Lee ridiculous right I'm
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actually disappointed that those that's
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it that's an actual pop song i was i was
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totally thinking the lyrics were like
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along the lines of kikis flagging not
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broomstick engine has a cat could be
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your actual silver a town which is a
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place where people these encountering
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problems with where they're a
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the riches here come see girls watch out
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for the boot keep it going to get you
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can't turn the radio down because here's
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another witch but yeah guess that's not
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it they are light with the exposition
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label I appreciate that
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sorry I'm trying to imagine what the
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bridge of that song is about crows in
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some way by good and they can memorize
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faces and pick us left in this year in
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August has learned to deal with them
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yeah in those scenes with the speaking
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of the crows like this is another thing
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in the in the grand tradition of totoro
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where again that the faces in this movie
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are miyazaki faces they're not realistic
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human looking faces there you know kind
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of in-between they're not they're not
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taught entirely cartoonish but the
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animals are frighteningly realistic like
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they look like they're all like little
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yeah the cow the crows the goat who
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wants the corner into a road just like
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frighteningly dead on realistic has been
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terrifying and again it's like that's
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you know how it a little kid powered a
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child see a bird squawking your face it
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would be terrifying when you see burn up
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close like that they're scary little
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dinosaurs
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it's terrifying when you're an adult I
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hate him hate birds
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well and there's those talons on that
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thing is it's sort of scratching at her
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when she falls into the tree that it
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really is very scary all the somebody's
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basis now for some reason to keep
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thinking of house moving castle a tour
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or howl's moving castle and what's the
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one with mom and castle in the sky like
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I love the straight-on it's almost like
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his Kubrick shot is a shot of somebody
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looking at the camera looking extremely
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determined with their face set whether
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that somebody just got punched in the
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stomach
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whether it's somebody's trying to fly
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something that's you know I mean there's
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there's a certain kind of me I don't
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know that's an amazing or miyazaki thing
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but I is his characters are artists
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imbued with their silence but their
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faces just have so much purposefulness
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to them you know you don't get that with
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Fred and Barney I'm gonna I'm gonna
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mention something that i noticed this
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time I think that that I haven't noticed
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before which is when she gets when when
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key goes with the the artist back to the
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woods to her artists retreat with the
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parkrose alright we've got off on the
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wrong foot last time I hope you don't
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cabin deep in the woods i'll show you my
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etchings yeah seriously there is she's a
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very does the artist is a very sensual
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person is what I'm saying these little
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although it bothers me a little bit that
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she's basically a very tall may from
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totoro she's also kind of hot and that
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make it very uncomfortable yeah that
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makes me uncomfy about I was she says
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these these legs I'm like or the boobs
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you could have mentioned the boobs and
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not the legs but ok this is not a boy
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you picked up here hitchhiking and
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another one of miyazaki's really big
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laugher here this explosion of left i
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love that I love that take that win it
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when it's somebody I'm thinking very
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seriously about this and I said
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something very serious long pause and
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then haha ah i love that that is so
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actually I realize that's an anime true
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but that's going to actually sort of
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bothers me because there's so much
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realism in these movies and then that
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just that that consoles me out of it
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there's a little bit like like it works
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in the scene like for example with
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whether the propeller bike crashes and
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like are you okay like that is a place
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where there is tension you're worried
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but then once you see everyone's okay
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there is a release that much like that
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part's realistic that's what he told
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about the you know the artist too
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because I felt like that was Kiki being
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very serious and the artist is like
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totally deflate services like now it's
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fine you know that's you're worried
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about too much too much
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there's a bit earlier that when she has
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the flu and she asked if she's gonna die
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and no you have to responsible
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oh yeah oh oh yeah laughing a little kid
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you know that kid cracks you up when
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they say something like most adults are
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better at holding it in like when your
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kid something cute and silly like that
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you don't have right in their face but
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osanna was really good areas and hostess
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it's just so over-the-top accountant me
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out of it so I was gonna say we turn our
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it looks to me like when the the artist
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is sketching keys face that we see more
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detail in the sketch of a canyon face
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then the actual faces are in the moon
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because they're because they're stylized
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then you don't need that many lines like
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that's that that's the economy of the
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miyazaki faces there I'm
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able to view such incredible emotion
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with so few lines like that's the
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artistry of it and when she drives it is
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a sketchy like we don't you know you see
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all these details like whoa where's that
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coming from like you don't need those
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days and we don't see that level of
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resolution if you live in this world you
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see the full resolution of people but we
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we don't see that so I thought that was
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what was her name Ursula right
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personally have the artist so she she is
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another possibility for Kiki's future
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saying yeah he is an independent woman
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living on her own you know chasing her
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artistic music became self-sufficient
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confident a little bit eccentric able to
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indulge in her eccentricities and and
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unique but you know and not living in
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the city living outside the city but
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occasionally traveling into it and she
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comes in a little bit like a pumpkin
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with a straw hat and a big backpack too
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but that's okay
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and I that seems they have what there is
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another section of the movie where it's
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like what cut all this out why is this
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here getting on the bus but there hurry
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up the bus is late walking onto the bus
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sitting in the back of the bus and
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getting to share some candy has Kiki
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ever had candy before in her life we
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don't know bubblegum she even know what
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that is passing over the little gumballs
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eating them walking up the really big
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hill getting to the top of the really
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big hill turning around and looking at
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the town below you like there's like
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seven scenes and they're like what's
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going on this i know they're traveling
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background cut to her house we need to
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have a dialogue that brings no this is
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the movie like this this trip back with
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this moment is what is what this entire
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movie is about its you can get you can't
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cut that out and just bring them right
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to the cabin where they can have a
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conversation and you're gonna get the
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cabinet's like to talk about her losing
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her magic so I guess that's a plot point
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but the movie is happening when they're
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when she's getting the gumballs in the
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bus the movie is happening when when the
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bus is pulling away and it's viewed out
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the window and the bus lurches and you
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can see the scenery go up and then down
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like that that's this movie for me all
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those parts was also going outside the
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the and getting a little genetic I you
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know was reading up a little bit and it
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makes it sound like the people can read
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this on Wikipedia but there are some
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travails with taking this original book
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there wasn't a director attached to it
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for a long time miyazaki was busy with
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totoro and they're trying to decide what
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to do with this and apparently the book
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is a pretty straightforward but it's
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episodic like here's the story
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here's another story at all in parallel
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they're mostly it sounds kind of
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independent
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an encyclopedia brown kind of thing and
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then and-and-and miyazaki introduces the
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one who when he attached himself to it
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as director is the one that added the
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whole ending that brings it all together
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but originally I guess jacket that that
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it was basically just about this is
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shallower was a kids story with em with
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a character who's a witch who delivers
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things and she can have various
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adventures that are shallow nature and
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miyazaki turned into a coming-of-age
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story basically yeah yeah and so we give
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it some of the episodic stuff with like
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the heavy package and all of that and
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the unholy lucky and that awesome dog
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when windows that dog great i love that
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a chef and sort of depressing friends
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people all the whole family whole family
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is talking about how he's basically
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is talking about how he's basically
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the plant one foot in the grave thank
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you buddy but he's smarter than they
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think yeah that's right he's a little
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dog he moved slowly that's well hit me
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in the in the isn't in the subtitle
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version isn't like that amazing dog that
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fantastic dog that fabulous dog
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something like that yeah he they take
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they underestimate the family does Jeff
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the dog and just because he slowed
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doesn't mean he doesn't know exactly
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what's going on and he you know he
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rescues GG from the other it is a nice
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smile about Hillary yeah with when gigi
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is pretending to be a toy they make him
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you know comically toy like and stiff
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and then when when Jeff like puts him
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down on the ground he's a real cat again
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and runs away like a real cat right it's
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just like the doggies dog ever it was so
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great the way with so gently
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it really looks really look like a dog
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now I don't I gotta jump in here the ok
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so so she let me just ask is is for
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practical purposes is Gigi really
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talking to kiki is Gigi in this case
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talking to Jeff is it doesn't matter
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because like I I this is the first time
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i watched where I thought I got a little
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bit little bit six cents with it and I
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was thinking maybe she doesn't really
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talk maybe that's all just in Key said
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and then the two versions know he's like
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my cock state-owned he definitely well
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first off he definitely talk to other
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animals i think that's I think that sort
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of assumed in this is that the animals
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all can talk to each other that's not
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just kicking my engineer them talking to
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each other but because we realize like
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what I talked to this and then with the
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dog we see it early on there's a seam
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where at least in the subtitle there's
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an old an old woman I think who says
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something like oh well he said this and
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I think it's referring I wish I'd
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written it down
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I think it's referring to G and I was
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like haha i think this is implying that
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some people can hear the cats some you
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know old cat ladies and witches can hear
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the cats when they talk scrapbookers the
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impression that she she could understand
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the cat only as long as she needed to
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understand the cat for his assistance
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she's kind of coming into the world and
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and growing up at that at the point
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where she suddenly has sort of made the
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transition
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too but that's not when he stops talking
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to restarting her when she loses
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confidence and she loses her powers and
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her ability to fly you know when she
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becomes but she's not she's lost her
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confidence because she's the reality of
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her situation in the fact that she's
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kind of alone in the big world has come
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well that's so my theory and focuses on
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past shows is that when she loses her
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magic is essentially her hitting puberty
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like yep we're gonna go all the way and
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yeah you know she got her period that's
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that's what I was wondering what I was
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thinking yesterday i 100% like what
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that's what it's a stand-in for higher
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she wants to lay down its bigger because
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like it's you know it all comes to a
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head at that point it's like childhood
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is ending and here is your here's your
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outward biological sign of that and it's
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her treatment of thombo should have been
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a dead giveaway and and now it all comes
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to a head and you have to realize you
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there's no going back you have to figure
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out this new world you have to put what
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it is that's making you upset seeing
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those rich kids what's making you feel
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like you don't fit in and or do you just
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have to work but some people don't have
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to work but you do but then what what
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you know like all those things and those
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things are happening in her head she is
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not dramatic about she's not writing in
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her diary and and bawling constantly and
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screaming at people it's all like it and
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it's aight thanks so much more realistic
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and more affecting that way and that's
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when she starts to lose her magic stuff
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and what's the first thing you should do
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if she wants she tries to regain it was
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running down the hill like I gotta I
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gotta get it back i got it like and you
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can't you can't go back that way you can
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only you can only go forward and trying
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to taiji get into that whether it's the
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Japanese GG or the or the you know Phil
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Hartman one I don't think either one of
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them ties in that well because like it
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you know so everything is in the
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american one when she gets her powers
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back at the end she can hear Phil
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Hartman again and then japanese one she
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can't hear full of you can't hear Jeezy
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again she just sounds like a cat and an
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economist and version of the disney tub
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yep didn't say meow didn't say that he
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said but she like I don't like I don't
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think that's integral because I think
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all you all you need to know is that she
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has come through the other side that
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she's got her her magic power you know
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she is she's doing its self
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actualization that should come through
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that and whether she still needs
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got to be there or not I don't think
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it's that big of a deal because even in
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the japanese one she's not leaning on
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the cat and he's not like her dad or her
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ego out there talking he's just kind of
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there as part of the movie but it's not
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a big interview like the two of them are
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not a team he is the whites cracking
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sidekick you get even
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yea even in the japanese one he is not
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like integral so they they didn't
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connect GG to her in a way that admit
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that it makes him symbolic of something
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that she has to leave behind i don't
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think the Japanese one I agree I agree
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with you I think I think it's actually
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kind of weird to see that connection
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because I I don't
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yeah I don't we left sort of wondering
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well why does he stop she talking again
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at the end I'm you know I I sounds
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non-canonical but I mean that makes it a
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lesser movie to me for him to be hurt
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you don't wanna wait wait but we don't
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know the rules of the universe getting
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back to whether he's talking or not we
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don't know if the rules of the universe
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are as described in things like well you
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know it's not not witch magic the letter
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here and it's actually because they were
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raised together or whatever like that
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really sort of like dicks think of the
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dust mites in totoro but that's a
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different universe where like this
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universe we were established the adults
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can see and accept magical things we're
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into her own and not as never
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established in total there is no adults
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and as a witch flying by and we all see
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it acknowledged that yes there are such
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things as witches and yes they can fly
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like the rules are clearly established
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that magic is part of this realistic
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world now whether the cat physics that I
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don't know but like in totoro that's all
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like you could say you know
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no adults have pay any attention to that
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that could all be in their heads and a
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perfectly fit so I feel like once you
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have a world where witches are flying
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around talking cat is not out of the
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question at all but it is sort of
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tentative is the relationship between
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key and gigi is the fact that he stops
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talking at some point clearly feels like
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well this is because she's transitioning
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she's growing up and at the end for him
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to come in and speak again it just feels
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like you know oh we couldn't we couldn't
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make the kids it makes it a double
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vanities different movie i don't i don't
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agree because i think that she again I
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feel like the shutdown of his voice is
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when she loses confidence and so the way
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i read this is she she's not losing chef
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lose the ability to fly she loses it
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temporarily and then she gets it back
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and those two things happening
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mauritania slee to me i think i connect
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them and I say this is not you know the
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world has gotten her and she's never
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going to hear the cat again but she's
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going to be able to fly again how is
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that she gets the one and not the other
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so she came back because she's grown as
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a person and now she's she's she's
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flying for her own internal inspiration
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it all depends on why you think she
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could hear the cabinet being right if
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you think she could hear the cat because
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it was part of her witch's powers then
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you feel like she when she gets her
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powers back against your comments about
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you hear the cap but if you if you think
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that she hears the cat when she's
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younger because it's just a way that
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young it's sort of like the total like a
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way young people comfort themselves with
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something imaginary and suddenly she
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finds herself growing up to the point
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where it's like you know what I don't
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believe in Santa anymore and office on
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the cat is just a meowing thing then you
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don't want her to hear the cat at the
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end because that would be a regression
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and that's why I think what Marilyn's
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coming from
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I thought I thought the key yeah
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definitely i'm free i thank god for four
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years of college I I felt like it wasn't
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like an imaginary friend that but was an
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imaginary friend that was we real kind
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of and then and then when it's called a
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friend Mario enough friend which one of
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my imaginary friend that is real is a
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friend that i think that's that's a
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contradiction in terms of topping hang
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on just made club is is the cat but the
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real forget really talking about with
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the whole movie though basically being
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her growing up it to me it felt like she
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gets her flying back that's good there
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are some things you know that you can
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maybe revisit as you get older and
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there's some things will never be the
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same again and me the cat was one of
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those things that you know that's just
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how it's not how it is now you're not
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gonna be able to your cat's about you
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but it shouldn't be because she no
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longer has the magic ability has to be
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because the cat was never talking to her
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and it was just something that children
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do to play pretend to comfort themselves
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during her transition that's why it was
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so shocking when you know why you just
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meowing why are you talking like a cat
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it's like the cat has always been
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talking there's never been a Santa you
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just you didn't know that or it could
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simply be that when she was young she
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had a need to understand what the cat
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was telling her and now she doesn't
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here's what i would say she can't she
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shouldn't lose the ability to hear the
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cat and fly at the same time they should
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be there too much in sync and there's no
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occasionally they happen at the same
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time it would be better if she can still
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talk to the cat and then at the end when
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she has grown up and succeeded and he
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is his cat family and all that that
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maybe then she can't hear him anymore
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and it's a sign that she's growing up
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because they happen simultaneously
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you're in this weird part where it's
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like you know why did why did these two
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things happen and does she get both mile
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my logic in that situation she gets both
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of them back but there's a third there's
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a third part to this that I hope we can
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semi agree it was part of what makes
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this so great is that you know in in a
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lot of other movies that were told in
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this way with the style with this story
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it would have been something that
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tactically said she's ok so there's that
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we should also point out the wonderful
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inversion of that the heartbreaking
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scene where she can't fly
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she's looking up at the sky and she sees
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this up and going yeah combo in it and
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it's just a perfectly encapsulates the
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sort of feeling of being 13 years old I
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mean and losing your mojo but it kind of
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green road Zeppelin's are encompass my
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my 13 year old self perfectly you don't
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know where that Zeppelin's going you
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don't know how inflated this up it's
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gonna be me right into things that might
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be a little kid big way that sometimes
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it's pointing up at we're down the
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sexual desire like not sure why
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yeah you don't know it's like snow and
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then you fly into the Clocktower and
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deflate land on a building
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how many inches or how long but the but
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the thing is it's kinda cool though they
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don't really hit the accelerator on the
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whole like oh she's saving a man and
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it's the love of her life and that you
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know I didn't get that out of this and i
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love that I you know because you could
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so that all up way too tightly where
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it's like oh now she's discovered like
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she's got to save a boy and that now old
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in a muscle top now she's really in the
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post-credit sequence would be their
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wedding but it is not their weddings the
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Flying Club she's out there on the broom
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flying they're all flying it that the
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the prize at the end is that she gets to
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be a person in society with friends
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yeah she's it finally a degree we're
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getting married now married now
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well thatthat's throughout that I mean
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that that's one of the fascinating
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things that rings so true it's it defies
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all logic and yet simultaneously rings
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true which is that scene where she
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they've survived their ridiculous bike
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propeller incident and um and they're
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laughing and then the kids in the car
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drive up and he he's buddies with them
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he's buddies with her
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he thinks this is all going to be fine
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and she's like I'm out of here right and
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then she buy and then she goes back and
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she she plants herself and this is she's
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she it is this is I mean this is being a
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teenager right it's she is amazingly
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lonely and yet when given the option to
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get involved in this
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she was she's like no way and walks away
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to be she's walking away from people and
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then being sad that she's alone which is
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so illogical and yet so completely true
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it's a good movie and you know it's a
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thing there's there's so many like these
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these kind of money shots in miyazaki
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movie one of the things I think you have
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to make your peace and and I think Josh
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but this very well in the past is it and
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probably in better words than this but
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that you have to make your peace with
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the fact that there's gonna be stuff
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that comes up in these movies it's never
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really fully explained and there's never
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know you could sit there and you can
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have these Talmudic debates about it but
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a big part of what makes these kinds of
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music these movies so magical and again
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i'm thinking of how i'm thinking of
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castle in the sky i'm thinking about all
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these movies are not princess monokey
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but just be these things that happened a
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certain way and that's that's just how
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it is but it's you know how the
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characters react to that and I don't
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know that makes it still makes it so
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great and keeps it to you to use that
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word that so overused magical like why
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did that happen we don't know why it's a
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movie yeah I love that the big probably
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the biggest single blow to Kiki at least
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in the middle part of the movie is she
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goes through all the trouble to to make
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the the dreadful sounding herring and
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pumpkin pie
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oh man for grandma goes out fishes out
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the firework and Stokes up the old brick
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oven and cook the thing up and put in
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all this work and then there's the whole
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panic or she has to go in the rain and
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probably the worst blow to her is the
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fact that it in the whole film is the
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fact that she gets there and the girl
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says I hate grandma's supplies and slams
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another two role models for her the old
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widow woman who lives by herself but has
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still has a certain dignity and lives
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with her friends / lover Bertha right
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just got four right and the horny
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twisted lady that loves footage exactly
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crash and cases i'll take your broom
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so she can go down the hallway and
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pretend to ride the broom
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she's a wild about lighter than air
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travel she's
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bullet that was a great scene where
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she's she's caught on the broomstick
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again they don't show her sneaking over
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there whatever they just cut her and
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what she's doing she's on the broom
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pretending to be which is so that her
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granddaughter it's the same girl that
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she saw the same rich girl what they saw
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in tombos group of friends and you know
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she got what she sees her later and
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that's I think that's really what kills
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her at the end when when he calls her
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over and she realizes that that's the
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girl who was so horribly ungrateful
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after all the work program and she's all
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beautifully dressed up and it's her
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birthday party and there is a party and
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she's not going to be going to run
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because she's drenched now and that girl
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is is ungrateful and this is all like at
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that moment she feels like her lowest of
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low but later on they you know the sort
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of the snootiness of that girl are the
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girls on it
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sports she's spoiled she's
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unappreciative that's what one of the
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things that brings Kiki around
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understanding i don't want to be that
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girl like that's that's one of that you
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know that there's females in every
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single age range she encountered
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encounters female to female to female
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from someone's her age 21 slightly older
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to you know the personalized like
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they've got the entire age range of
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women mapped out and every one of them
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keys looking at and again you never see
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this movie talk about you don't see
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movies female protagonist and even if
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you do see it the female protagonist is
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in a world of men and this shows
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Oh a girl and what she sees in the world
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is all the other women because that's
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what she's trying to figure out who am I
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going to be what am I gonna be like
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she's not going to look at them to the
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men to figure this out and it you know
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it's so shocking just because everything
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water movies is man and about men in the
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world of men and women as accessories or
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or it's about or it's about showing up
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that bitch like that's the other thing
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if you're gonna know if you're going to
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have known with women in it is going to
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be the central working girl thing where
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you've got to have this this this big
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tension between the underdog that we
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love and this hottie person who needs to
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be brought down because they're making
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this person feel bad and and that that
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is used for the amount of effect is
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necessary here but then it doesn't turn
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into something whether doing like a you
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know death becomes her kind of
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one-upmanship in fact the reaction that
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Kiki has is not what I expect from her
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right so she goes to all this trouble
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goes through the rain with this terrible
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hearing and pumpkin pie we with a
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picture of a fish on it and and just
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like I hate grandma's you close the door
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close the door and instead of keeping
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like boy you know what what an awful
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person that was
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she says wow I can't believe she's
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related to that nice lady i love that
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that is so great because that's what
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that's what she's not personally
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offended
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she feels bad for for granny that's who
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she feels bad for like right she's so
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nice and this person is not but she
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feels also like lower than low like the
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trans the disparity because she's the
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delivery girl she's drenched she's and
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they also doesn't like our overriding
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robe is unfashionable yeah it's just and
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she tries like she's so hard like all
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but it's wet now it's like I work really
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hard to the food came through ok you
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know give it a try like she's so she's
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so good Kiki and like and she's forced
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it to do all these things it's just you
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know and Jason you mentioned before like
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out your loan and when invited you you
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turn down the invitation then you feel
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it's that a similar scene like that
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which also ranked true to me early on in
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the movie where tambo gives her the
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invitation says miss which on it yes and
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in english in the movie
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yeah getting an invitation to be to go
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to a social event is like the most
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terrifying thing that could happen to
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her and she immediately runs to her
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current mother figure and says it's not
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so much like I have to deliver that have
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to look at the invitation is the crisis
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yeah i've been invited to a party I have
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no idea what I'm going to do and I've
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seen that play out like candy but that's
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the way yeah that that is the that is
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the crisis and you know and like what
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you mean or is this is exactly what you
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wanted didn't you want to have friends
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like that's not how it works when you're
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13 years old
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that's right by the way my favorite
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detail in the movie is during that scene
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where she's completely soaked and she
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lands at the big house to deliver the
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pie and you can tell how soap she is
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because her humongous bow is suddenly
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obeying the laws of physics whole rest
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of the film is gigantic and is one scene
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it's just drooping around the top of her
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head it's a magical waters pouring added
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it's wonderful and our asano her staring
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at mother figure fills that role as well
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in that after this all happens and after
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this disaster is gone out in the sauna
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knows that it's been a disaster and
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those also knows enough to stay away
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asanas next move in orchestrating keys
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life from a distance in a motherly way
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but not too heavy-handed is to send her
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to deliver something to tambo the boy
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waiting for for a while I in in a
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reasonably clever way basically you know
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he's taking bread from her own bakery
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and paying key to deliver it
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him and setting up that you know that
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encounter well first she feeds oatmeal
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and honey scalding oatmeal and honey to
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a cat right warned him she said it was
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hot everyone what do you want
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well obviously he can't understand her
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either cat he just can't help himself
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but you don't you don't say don't burn
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your tongue and then hand you know a
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bowl of scalded milk to an animal with a
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brain the size of a thumb
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it's just even if it could talk
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she's not know just not done Thank
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templin over the old ladies I like me
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she goes back to the old ladies I
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thought that the old ladies things going
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to be over but instead they say Baker
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cake with yu-gi-oh sweet official key
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logo and was that it was at a bread Kiki
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that the Baker lady had put in the
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window though the Baker husband did it
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because I that's not a senior so she
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when she's awake she's supposed to be
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coming back for the party right and what
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you see is the husband pacing back and
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forth isn't working and at first you
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think it's because he's worried about
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her which she is and that you mean his
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keys like two lines in the movie but his
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character is fully revealed by the
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things that I'm doing and the second
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thing is that you realize that he's the
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one who made the big bread key sign and
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he's excited for her to see it when she
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when she comes back and so right when he
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sees it she's coming he runs and hides
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because he doesn't want to be there when
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she comes like he's too embarrassed that
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I made this for you but he's excited
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about her seeing and so when when she
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sees it looks at it he casually strolled
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in like 10 big deal just made a thing
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for you and she jumps on him and give
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him a hug all no dialogue all happening
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through window from an outside shot
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completely amazing
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you wouldn't even see that in adult
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live-action films they be like what's
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going on there i don't understand like
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watch the movie
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everything is there a movie that's
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what's the movie there's an airship at
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the end i just i love the fact that you
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know this dirigible has been forced to
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land there and apparently the entire
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town has gone original crazy
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yes we see it on the TV in the bakery
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and the two ladies are watching it as
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you do is the fifties rigid airship
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madness
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it was isn't the fifties I never really
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got a grip on what the time fit only get
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from the look at the cars that's more or
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less the arrows supposed to be
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yeah and the end that seventies pop song
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that sounds like it's from a cop any
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duty duty but I you know I I I you know
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I love I love a good separate movie i
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have to admit i do love that
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I is strange because there's this is the
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opening line of dialogue in the movies
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like and the airship might be passing
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overhead or it might not be all right
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okay and we get the we got an exciting
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airship scene where there is actually it
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does damage to the to the buildings of
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course the most noticeable building in
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town gets hit by the hit by the airship
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i find it funny that everybody is really
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worried about tambo who is dangling from
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the airship but not worried about the
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entire like cabin full of people who are
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also on the air she was fine fine but
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we'll be fine
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certainly there safe because they're
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inside the like you know the thing
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yeah but if it specials every guy does
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elliot yeah I'm sure it's not like it's
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not like the pink paint caught on fire
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there is a nice line that it that is it
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we're full of helium so it won't explode
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like it's not gonna be like a Hindenburg
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thing if we die it's going to because we
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smashed into something like the ground
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with but was it at the end where she's
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saved tambo and you can see them in
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there in the cabin they're still up
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there clapping and they're all excited
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and celebrating
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meanwhile they're hanging between two
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high building yeah you you expect almost
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like Prince that Italian Job moment
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where it's like okay I've got a plan
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thanks but I know how we're gonna get
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out of here it's like I don't know
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slowly let allowed to deflate and hope
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that it just kind of sag Cinderella see
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they're out of combat at that point so
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they can just kick in this God right
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that's that's good did Randy knowledge
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area is right i imagine the key would
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then like go up and shuttle them down
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bit by bit or something maybe it doesn't
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seem like she's got a real grip on that
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push broom at that point that she would
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have to get a bit much better broom that
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was just a broom that was available to
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her but she still got it at the end haha
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what a great sequence
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yeah and that's when it sits silent
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she's on the brain with silent and then
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there's like you know the the lucky
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silence while followed by the the sound
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the bristling it's like a oh yeah where
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it comes to life basically like it's
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gotta have already said she flies fly
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and you expect her to you know
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sky-rocket in perfect formation instead
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she slams into the nearest building ball
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bounces off another one with regular
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she's lost with their foot yeah yeah and
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they do it sounds against they have the
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crowd booing oh you know the crowd noise
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going on the announcer and everything
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like that and all that fades out as
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tambo falls and as she catches them so
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that the the climax of the movie they
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fade everything out including the
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background cacophony of crowds that you
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didn't realize I was was there until
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they turn it off which is the best way
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to use the one thing i do here is that
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is her making her connecting with his
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hand as she grabs and that's all you
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here which is great so here's here's
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something that my son notice that I've
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never really thought about in all of my
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times watching this movie but this time
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today he noticed it which is as soon as
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she soon as she catches tambo and saves
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him everybody cheers and there's like
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confetti or a ticker-tape parade
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everywhere and he's like why is there
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confetti
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where did that come from and I'm like I
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have no idea in this town they always
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have it ready have it ready it's like
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the fireworks
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it's like the fireworks at the end of
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Return of the Jedi or it's like well you
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know normally we don't shoot off
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fireworks here on the exams or the
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x-wings have it is but we gotta decide
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good happens we've got some fireworks to
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fire off but if the sign is a big city
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man it either it's confetti or it's like
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really light rubble from the building's
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maybe they were ready to celebrate this
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is there a to celebrate the Zeppelin
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maybe and put it had yeah those are
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shreds of the cabin crews shirts they're
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trying to fashion a rope to get down
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know it crashed the plane crashed into a
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building that had lots of paperwork and
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the paperwork out shredded and blown out
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and there was landing what it would be
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my special movie in the eighties
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business movie made 89 right so like
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it's like the end of war game someone
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else throw paper in there at the end of
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every day the movie anyway watch for
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that there's sudden sudden celebratory
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confetti you get a letter from the mpaa
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there's a couple questions we have got
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to be new mall we looked a little bit
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more people through when you and the
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other the other standard speaking of
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standards is that in miyazaki movies and
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eighties movies in particular miyazaki
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movies you have to have an incredibly
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heartwarming and affecting sequence that
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the credits roll over right if they
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throw the Dean in the pool
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not the same not the same at all like
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I'm always amazed at integrated you drop
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a police car to like not good enough
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pretty awesome and I have the grad and
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the details of the way of going over the
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side of the deck oh yeah that's been the
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one person that's still in the pool that
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you see just kind of slowly moving here
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from the splash
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no detail is too small because some guy
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spent three weeks on that and then at
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the end we get the letter back to her
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parents that we were promised at the
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very beginning her mother still if
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distracted will have one of her test
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tubes explode with black smoke and she
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gets the letter saying i'm fine i'm
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doing ok we discovered that it takes
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roughly three days to rebuild a clock
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tower sure that there are very
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industrious people look at the town that
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strap and essentially all that confetti
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was just rubble from them already trying
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to fix up the tower there are already
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people are soon as we have results it
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was the actually the wrapping of the new
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tower than it already been kept stepping
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that's the pair had just cut the ribbon
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was that fast
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that's right well Tom but was following
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that all happened like think about these
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movies that have the credit sequences
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what would the movies be like if they
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didn't have the credit sequence like if
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the movie actually ended and they just
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showed names / black and I was it like
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how would how would you feel about the
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movies differently if you know it
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totoro I mean to her as a smaller one
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this one has won a whole bunch of the
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the i mean i can cancel this guy has one
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as well
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or maybe it's just too pretty cries when
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I way I always feel like that that part
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of the movie is a shorthand way to give
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you a satisfying ending it wouldn't work
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if you cut it out but you don't have
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time to do everything that's in the
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credit sequences it's like it's almost
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like cheating with like a montage like
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we don't want to show a montage and we
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don't want to have some silly scene
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where they exchanged two lines of
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dialogue to be established but we just
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want to show like and this is what
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happens in the immediate future of these
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characters I in a way that doesn't feel
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weird because we tried to rush into try
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to have multiple things that wouldn't
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work but I think everybody like flies in
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on the credit sequence like who doesn't
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like that whose heart is not worn by
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saying that sequence in the credits and
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you don't go like that ending the movie
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was weird I thought they rushed at the
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end when they tried to show what
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happened to the character shoes ended
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like no one ever feels that way i don't
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know why more movies don't use this but
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I guess Marvel movies accepted but like
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the animation equivalent of that that
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whole animal house thing Dean wormer
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went to prison where he was prepared but
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it's but it's not that ham-fisted like
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this they're not like like the things
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are seeing are essential to the story
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you're not wondering what happened to me
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just want to be like because you already
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know Kiki is going to be okay but you
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also want the payoff scene of seeing it
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but let's you be very economical with
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cutting it off when the story's done
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and in the case of liquid total it's a
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little bit more luxurious but in this
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case when you see her Dashiell on the
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broom in the credits come up you like
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wow that was that was really the end is
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over that's it that was I think it's
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great i think they could they could
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probably have avoided that by making the
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ending a little less abrupt but well I'm
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like a sauna gives birth we know she was
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really no she goes into labor
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we assume everything came out ok but
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just in case you're wondering here's
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asano she's there now here's the baby
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here's the dad they're happy they're
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watching key they know she's happy like
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it's all the things that you want to
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know our our reality after the movie
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ends that you can assume they are but
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they give you the payoff like here you
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go here's a picture of her and the baby
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and you know this is with us what
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happened anyway but just seeing them
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makes you happier than just be thinking
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I bet she had the baby now on it but
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that's wonderful especially with totoro
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where you i mean the the genius stroke
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of courses showing me show the family
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show them then you show the total rows
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and then you show the implicit kind of
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interaction of them to you know I did
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that I think that's particularly
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delightful in total that was critical
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because you have to have mom came home
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somewhere yeah i mean that but that's
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the first thing on sequences her coming
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out of the cab or whatever with arms
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wide open and the kids running towards
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or like you know that's why I'm going to
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get well yeah the payoff a little bit
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and so on this one another sequence here
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like earlier on the movie key is looking
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at shoes and the window shoes that she
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can't afford while she's in the city and
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she just sits there staring at them for
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a while and I think like some people
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come by behind or whatever and the
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credit sequence she's still staring at
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choosing the window we're just showing
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that yes there are still going to be
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things that you want that you can have
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because you don't suddenly become the
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richest most powerful princess in the
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entire world you get everything you want
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but while she's staring at the shoes one
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of the people who passes by her is a
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mother with a little girl and the little
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girls dress like II the hero of the town
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and she her head turns and she's like
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whoa you know that's that's quite a
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complicated payoff out of like they
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don't show her and now she's got those
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red shoes she wanted up she still at the
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window looking at the fancy shoes but
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also she's admired and looked up to
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about a little girls and their dress
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like she is that is fairly that's a
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fairly complicated thing to put into
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kids movie for a kid to unpack but i
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think that like gets through to them the
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key would be a great halloween costume
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for a twelve-year-old girl by the way
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they wanna wait for that matter
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sure big but not that much girly about
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big bow big dark robe you know room is
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black with a last-second throw together
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kind of it's still a good with costumes
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were both students everybody would know
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who you were
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anybody who's seen this movie really go
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big bow key sure it's kinky
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yeah Steve you have not seen this movie
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that's correct and i have now seen it
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twice both times with the dub I i would
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I i watched it again today just to kind
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of you know having it fresh in my mind
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and i decided i'd rather watch the
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double right sit down and watch it with
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the kids are rather watch the japanese
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version or watch with the kids and I
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think kids both wanted to watch it so we
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said watch it together
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so what's what's your what's your
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verdict and what's their verdict about
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it as new new viewers i thought it was
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uh yeah i really enjoyed it at once I
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you know kind of got over the fact that
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you know no one's going to be stabbed at
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something horrible with the oven and
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this is so much you know even even just
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things like that you expect the painter
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to have you to give up the cat with more
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of a fight you know or you know Gigi
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having a tougher time getting away from
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the dog but you know once i once I got
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past that I really kind of I sort of
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like luxuriating in the slow pace of the
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thing and just kind of appreciating the
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animation as it comes
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I given though how sort of gentle and
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quiet and and not fast cut things were I
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kind of expected the kids to get up and
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watched they joined it didn't say much
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during the film the boy enjoyed the the
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the cats antics
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the the phil hartman I mean we sound so
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snooty talking about you know watch in
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Japanese or whatever but i mean the the
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dubbed version is great it's really
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really good i would not wanna I would
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not want anybody to think like don't
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speak Japanese because it is really
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great and the heart and character might
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you know my daughter's got a GG you know
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plush toys she loves the phil hartman g
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character i would not would not worry
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about robbing a six-year-old of that
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experience because they'll speak
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Japanese yet my daughter made the
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observation early on and she's sitting
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in the room right now so she's pregnant
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be very
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mr. i'm talking about her but at any
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rate yeah one of the one of the few
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things that was mentioned is really
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early on when she's getting ready to go
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and she wants dad to pick her up i like
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when she was little she pointed out
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she's having some notes through she
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pointed out she is not a
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thirteen-year-old she acts more like an
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eight-year-old which I thought was
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fairly percent but from the dads are one
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of you like I mean my daughter is seven
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wants me to pick her up over i had like
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I used to and I do it pretty much
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opposed that dad doesn't like you get
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your backs are snaps you're gonna tap
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and you know that eventually presently
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you won't be able to do this anymore but
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you keep trying to do it i mean that
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that seems a little bit for the parents
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more than romantic I i will tell you
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that that seemed means a lot more to me
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now with a 12 year old daughter than it
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did when I was watching with a six-year
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a it means a lot more right but it's a
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great moment as a pair but it's also key
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that you see Kiki be a kid right
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yes she's about to go out riding this
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big adventure where she's she can't be
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anymore it's got to get that lonely
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getting in the last little bits like I
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mean that and that's why the dad
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whispering are you know you can always
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you can always come home if the domain
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like yeah right so yeah I think I heard
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her say that and I thought oh no the
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sort of Japanese over-the-top miss of
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some of these things is is gonna sort of
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throw her off but really it was it was
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deserve a point so in the end and
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actually ended up working i think very
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well yeah everybody enjoyed it i thought
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it was great
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I'll probably watch it a few more times
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and and like it more because I can tell
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this is one of those growers yes it is
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and i want to i want to reinforce that
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that that what you said about we can be
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we can be snooty about this I i find it
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interesting if you think you know a
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movie to watch to turn off the the
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English dub and watching japanese with
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subtitles
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it gives you a different perspective on
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the movie which i think is interesting
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for a movie that that you've watched a
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lot but yes i'm at i'm a gigantic phil
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hartman fan i think i love almost well
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not everything you did cuz he did some
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really crappy movies but he did a lot of
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amazing stuff and this is a really fun
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performance from him and if all you do
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is listen to the japanese version with
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subtitles
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you're missing out on a a different but
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good experience
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so I just wanted to make a quick i mean
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i challenge you to find that manager
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John come up with a handful but there's
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not that many non american movies I'd
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say foreign not American movies in
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movies are not in English you're not
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gonna find that many movies that are
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that are survive the dubbing process
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better than these miyazaki movies
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I mean they're not perfect but they are
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so much better than a than a bunch of
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them i mean even watching we're watching
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now let's say we weren't watching this
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because this wouldn't be appropriate
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watching the anime x-men today and like
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you know it's I you know it's good but I
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mean but something John whenever you
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talk about how sometimes the characters
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are actually saying anything and then
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but you know in the english version they
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feel the need to add things to remember
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back at all about comfort movies all
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your yoga master and you've got all
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these unnecessary grunts and try and
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fill everything like mouth movement with
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some kind of sound and and i have to say
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like you know it would be a really real
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disservice if we made people think that
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this isn't okay to watch that because it
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is there there are I think the Toros
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another one is just obviously so
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fantastic their other there are a few
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such moments in this dub like there's a
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scene where she's at the mirror and she
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opens her mouth real life she says yeah
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yeah look it comes off a little weird
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but instead they are very very well to
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deal with the distance
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disney's deal with the distribution of
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their stuffs of the studio ghibli stuff
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is the my understanding is they're not
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allowed to change the video at all and
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so right dubs like your force like they
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basically said no we can't touch a
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friend but can we cut out that part
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where she has her mouth open for an
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extended period of time because there's
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no syllable in English that does that is
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like no you actually can't change the
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video but what you can do is you know
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what we have traditionally done and make
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her draw out somewhere so I'm so glad
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that there because like with a with
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nausea they did that terrible warriors
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of the wind thing where they just chop
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the video to bits i think that's kind of
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what drove the future deal which said
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you can distribute our movies in America
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you but you cannot change the frame of
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the video right that's a good movie
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question for anybody who's who has
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watched the Japanese which i guess is
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all of you except me i understand that
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when Disney did the dub they also
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changed a lot of the music cues they
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made it's a bit more bombastic not just
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that the opening and closing songs but
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also some of the actual score is that
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scaled back in the japanese version or
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is it still have the same i'm not that I
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noticed i think i mean the beginning in
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any music or different is their middle
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part they said that they added there is
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there is little bit yeah there's that
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the tinkling kind of song i think maybe
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around the time that she's on the bike
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with it there's actually a different
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middle song in the japanese one that's
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not that's not as dramatic as a song
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they put in the english but i think it's
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about it it's just different
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I mean this is the interesting thing is
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they're just different there and neither
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of them and then again neither of them
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is the definitive because the definitive
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is your Japanese you understand Japanese
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you understand Japanese culture and you
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watch the movie and I can't do that so I
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be really curious to hear your take
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Jason on the 2010 version that i watched
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because it sounds like all the things
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that they deliberately removed from the
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original disney dub were smart boobs
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this is why i'm waiting for the blu-ray
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because i assume the blu-ray will be
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that same that same take on it and and I
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want to get this in HD and I think
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that'll be that'll be graded it does it
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sound so sure did Lucas is part of that
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initiate it sounds like they backed off
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it sounds like they really heard
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the criticism of some of the changes or
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whether they heard that from fans or
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they or I imagine some of it might be
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John Lasseter because he's now in a
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position of authority at Disney and his
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Lordships music and he worships miyazaki
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so I think maybe even Lassiter's like
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can we do some things can we fix this a
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little bit before we put it out again
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and and so I think that's cool because
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it sounds like they they've made it and
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they've used that good dub and brought
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it back a little to make it a little
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more like the original here's a pro tip
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for watching the you're watching a
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subtitled versions of these movies
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miyazaki movie studio ghibli movies in
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general
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turn off the subtitles during the
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credits because in these movies the
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credit sequences are often you know
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knows it was a great example like a
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little mini movies in and of themselves
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and their framed with the Japanese
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credits which you can't read fine just
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pretend they're a nice little art
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they're framed with the action in the
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credits you know just so and when they
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put the American credits on they have to
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cover the action and totally destroyed
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the composition of all the frames turn
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off the subtitles during the credits to
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turn them back on with the movie starts
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wandering the grounds and I wish that
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was the default mode like not that I
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don't want to see the English names of
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these people or whatever but that's
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that's part of the movie and I feel like
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they are altering the video by saying
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well there's a block of japanese text
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over here
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Kiki's over there and we're gonna put
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these English names right over Kiki no
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don't do that whereas whereas in the
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dubbed version they just take out the
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Japanese and replace it with English
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were right so they also mess up the
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composition on that is true they do
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because they don't fit the same as good
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as the worst one though it's not as it
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goes like this beautiful little mini
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tone poem of credits and there is no
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place to put English words anywhere made
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and they do and it's terrible so turn
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them off
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alright one other question about the
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original Japanese is the naked line in
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there I don't know enough Japanese it's
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in the subtitle version is really nice
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is that doesn't tell you anything but I
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imagine it would be because like again
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that's like it comes to see my actions
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etching not invited yeah that's under I
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was just frankly amazed she wants she
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wants to do a drawing with me in it says
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Kiki and his responses naked and its
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just oh tu so nasty it's it's just it's
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got such a rye feel to it I was
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surprised that they kept it intact in
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the Disney version because it's that's
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it that's a pretty good entendre right
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there but it if that is in the movie
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though which I can imagine it would be
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because again the Japanese an artist
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puritanical we are about this it's still
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a it fits into the theme of the movie
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because it's a certain point like the
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idea of her seeing herself as a sexual
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being other people seeing her that way
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or that being a possibility and not just
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that's how it begins like you just can't
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thought on there in that respect when
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time that he hooks up with the the hot
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female kitty
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want heat while listening to us said to
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it's the g grows up and is no longer
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interested in human so that i crack
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that's very cat right there to like that
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cats are never interested in humans so
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yeah they start out I know what he
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learned his lesson
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John you had something yes I'd like this
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this is also my favorite miyazaki movie
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uh I don't remember when I first saw it
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but it was probably way back in the
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eighties and I think I first saw it like
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those lazy summer day kind of moves from
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here until like 90 91 something I I
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don't remember where I even where I saw
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it like it was definitely one of those
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kind of relaxing movies you just like
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are surprised by your sort of let it
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happen and it's just grown and grown on
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me over the years and my plan with my
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kids that I executed was the image but i
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would i would in dr. ate them with many
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movies that i'm dr. with this was a big
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one like the two things I was leaning
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heavily were basically like Star Wars
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and miyazaki and of all the miyazaki
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this is the movie that I kept showing
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them like first of all this is you can
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show this like total you can show this
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to a two-year-old like you can show us
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that to anybody and most kids will not
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be frightened by over and i just showed
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it to them constantly and both my son
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and my daughter because it is such like
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I knew that what they were going to see
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for their entire lives were sort of
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Western action movies with male
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protagonists that are just like we all
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know what that's gonna be like
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everything they see is going to be like
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that including Star Wars for that matter
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like it's all going to be like that
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have so many so few go tues for
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realistic depictions of young self
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actualized females that I just saturated
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them to the degree now that i think my
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seven-year-old daughter every time I
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bring movies like I want to see that
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again like she's smoothie thousands of
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times and I strongly encourage every
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parent of sons or daughters to get this
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movie to get Toto and just to show them
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constantly so that they're burned into
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your children's DNA is because until it
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once they enter that wider world all
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they're gonna see is the generic like
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there's just so few good examples of
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this and it kills me that this issue of
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them and I maybe I'm burning my children
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out in this movie but this movie is a
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parenting tool I feel like come on daddy
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watch a princess tonight I believe me
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when i say the princess you're never
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going to stop that like she has seen all
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the other movies I some people feel the
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same way about frozen but I feel even
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more strongly about these movies that
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they are they are sort of just gentle
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and even-handed and just just good like
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they're not educationally but just
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couldn't lose you can I want this movie
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to be part of like the internal
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emotional landscape of my children
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essentially and so I've done I've done
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that through repetition I hope and
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that's how i feel about these movies and
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I'm essentially willing to to trust my
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children trust them with my children I i
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agree with everything you said but I
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also want to add that they're weird
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which is great haha no I'm seriously so
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many there's so much can you know and
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like we're joking about like expecting
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you know like a bank vault to fall in
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somebody's head or something but I mean
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you know we got the way we are from
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watching certain kind of cartoon a
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reading a certain kind of comic over and
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over and over and I think you could do
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worse than introducing something like
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this when they're ready for it yet
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spirited away when they're ready for it
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because I mean what happens in these
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movies like you know like you're making
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funny a John because I'd finally seen
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nautica and that in Prince monokey were
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to that and I mean I guess I'm glad we
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waited awhile because they're both like
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declar they're a little their little
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rougher you have the correct they are
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but oh my god princess
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they're both so goddamn weird if they're
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just extremely extremely stress it's
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very difficult to even explain what
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happens in some sequences because
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Stephen describing what combination of
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fantastic animals this looks like it's
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impossible and its kind of bleeding but
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it's not it's all soup
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you're weird but i think that's really
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good i really like my daughter started i
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started showing her Marx Brothers movies
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where like she's gonna have absolutely
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no idea what's happened but she she asks
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talk about a gift a kid who wants to
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watch duck soup like I want her to sit
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there and have a process what's going on
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in this and and and nana I'm not mean I
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mean it merely just as like some kind of
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an sa80 study program but i think the
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idea of putting things in front of your
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kids they don't expect that they're
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gonna have to ask questions about or
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just wonder about i mean it's it's just
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so easy to sit down and I'm the
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trash-talking a hero or something but
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it's just so easy to sit down and walk
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through that same little Candyland game
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of these same 35 movies that all their
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friends have seen and I like the idea of
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challenging them to like see something
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that doesn't on the face of it make a
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lot of sense i'm an old guy and I don't
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understand all of it so I think that's a
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really good exercise when they're ready
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for it I think it's a really good idea
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and like the internal landscape of all
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their friends are going to be beauty and
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the beast aladdin snow white monster
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high like like about like move some of
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these are really good but great are very
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much like you can describe this movie on
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the playground and it'll make sense and
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how many movies do they see where they
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were there is ineffable quality to it I
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don't just say magic but there's nothing
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inevitable about it was like we kind of
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just got to see it to really get it
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yeah and the kids don't appreciate all
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these nuances of these movies were
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discussing but I really do feel like
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they internalize them and that like that
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I basically what I'm trying to do is
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like I want the inside of my children to
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be something different in some small way
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than the inside of a other children
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because i want to give them an
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experience that they wouldn't have is
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they're all that experience they were
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talking about they're gonna get that
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whether we do it or not like there's
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nothing we can do to stop them from from
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getting on it's like worrying if they'll
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discover french fries right it's like
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you know the they will get on the air
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desert-like don't we're not gonna give
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our child deserves well good luck with
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that like it that you know it's the
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world is going to happen to them all you
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can do and you get a specialist I say
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start young like you get such a small
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window of time to 34 years old to make
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any sort of impression online and also
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just blaming it from an adult
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perspective showing them that I like
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these movies i watch them without them
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sometimes they come down when they can't
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sleep in the same you're watching
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miyazaki movie and I think that has an
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effect they're saying these are just
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kids movies that we watch these movies
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and daddy watches to like they're good
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for everybody
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you get so few chances to do so do you
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have a miyazaki movie on a loop and then
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when an infrared beam is triggered game
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of thrones flips over to the miyazaki
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movies come down the stairs that are our
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stairs are very creaky and i was able to
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pause the night when we heard one kid
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coming down it looks like John's playing
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journey but he hits a button in and
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Microsoft Excel comes up you know I mean
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like I really running along but like
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there's one like unfortunate side effect
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of a good thing a good thing is
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realizing that it matters what we showed
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that show our kids like it's a good
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thing i'm really glad that like you know
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there was a there was a time when you
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couldn't just have commercials disguises
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TV shows like in the seventies that was
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a thing for a while the eighties that
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one away
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I guess I guess I just feel like it's
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adjusted to to amplify with John saying
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that there's there's so many things you
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could do like I've probably there's com
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definitely comics I've read with my kids
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comics ever with my kids this week that
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she's probably too young to be reading
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and I don't feel great about that but in
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the case of this movie script what I say
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that because I want her to be exposed to
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stuff that's beyond the incredibly broad
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darkly drawing outlines of what
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constitutes children's entertainment
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because it's really depressing if you if
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you really look at the landscape that's
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out there of what you're supposed to be
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consuming when you know I mean like
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clone wars clone wars i think is awesome
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I like it better than three of the style
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person because it's really good but it's
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also it's it's it's really predictable
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and I just think the idea of like
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throwing stuff to your kid that is not
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dangerous but there's not that much like
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my smokes probably little much for a
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young kid spirit whale a little much for
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a young kid but I don't know I just feel
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like giving your kids the chance to have
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stuff we don't sit around read
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fairytales so much as we did when I was
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a kid so there's nothing if you're going
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to be in this media landscape giving
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them start putting stuff in their path
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that they're going to think about and
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maybe they'll have a question a year
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from now that they don't have today but
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adding the transition to parenting
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lesson but i just think that's such a
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great opportunity like John says you
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don't have forever or even even live
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action movies for adults get like that
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for the actresses that are out there
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what roles do they have for women
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that I that they are the hero of the
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story unequivocally but no no any sort
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of qualifiers no restaurant I mean like
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zero gravity wasn't hundred local things
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happen to some Republican gravity and
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she was kind of like more like an inner
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struggle like nausea go straight up
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she's the hero of the story and over in
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it not in not in a you could substitute
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because it wouldn't she's also she's a
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female she acts like a female she's also
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you know she has like it's I don't just
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dont even cie I maybe I'm not thinking
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well stop that someone knows it will
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throw it out maybe like is there a
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live-action movie that is a
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straightforward action/adventure movie
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with a female hero to agree that the
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Nazca is and I don't even think there is
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that hope so i got hopes for Lucy it's
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not something she'll be watching anytime
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soon but i gotta i don't know i think
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she's got to go like it you know be the
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killing machine and that one like there
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are certain things that were allowed to
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have and i would say that i would hold
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nas ago and and Kiki for that matter is
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to movies that could never fly as a
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Hollywood live action movie classic is a
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good action movie too though that's the
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thing is like it isn't just that I think
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a lot of people think Miyazaki's all
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like giant avoid smiling faces and it's
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it's not I mean he's only seen her on
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key and you haven't seen mine okay and
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and not-so-good you can be forgiven for
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thinking that but you're missing a big
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part of the picture there I just like
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the fact that everything here isn't
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handed to the kid that's watching on a
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platter right i mean there's weirdness
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there are there are themes that are
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really subtle as far as you know growing
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up and hand the whole puberty aspect of
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it which they will be picked up on for
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quite some time but there's there's a
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lot of stuff that goes on that they
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actually have to piece together
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themselves to start just you know what
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why did this person why did that go that
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way why did that person to what they did
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why would they motivated separate why or
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why is she why is she I can tell like
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kids can tell that she's upset or sad
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but they will take a long time before
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very why why is she upset because she
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doesn't explain why her she's gone away
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and eventually like that's the party
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movies the kids won't get until they are
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themselves 12 and go oh now I recognize
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why she shuts down when the kids pull up
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in the car right and that's too
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sophisticated for this point I really
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like watching this with the kids tonight
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because even though they they would
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laugh at the occasional you know funny
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cat joke and wouldn't say much about
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what's going on in the film
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you can watch their faces and you can
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kind of see the gears turning or once in
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a while you'd see like a little subtle
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smile appear on a face at an appropriate
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point and it's just it's really fun to
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kind of see the brain started to work
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while they're watching a movie instead
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of just you know things flowing by
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adults should watch this movie because
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it is i think many seems like it
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sometimes you think your kids get more
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than they do right it was a very often i
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will add my kids hate this as all kids
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should we'll ask them why did character
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X what is characterized feeling now and
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why I kind of hate you for asking it now
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they absolutely they absolutely do not
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know the answer sometimes they can tell
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what the person is feeling of his
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animation i can tell she's not happy or
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sad or whatever but they have no idea
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why and they're not going to such an
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awful thing to do to your kids Jon
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that's like saying show your work i
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asked them gently and I don't lean on it
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and yes and yes they do hate it and they
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can either be something similar is what
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it's all about things a young girl could
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do in the city to earn over
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no I don't know what I'm trying to do
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what I'm trying to do is the kinds of
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things we could do naked I'm I'm trying
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to gauge whether they are actually
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following along to the degree you hope
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they aren't his thing is they don't they
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don't understand like I mean many adults
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don't understand why you ask it if you
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like to try this with your adult friends
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pause the movie and ask them you'll be
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very depressed by those answers well
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anyway which I know that John I mean the
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one simple question to ask the end it
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sounds silly but sometimes I yeah i'll
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turn and see what you do that why did
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you do that just know what you think he
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did that he did that because he was mad
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he did it because he was sad
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well you know didn't turn out the way we
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expected like it better than me
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no but I think sometimes asking i have
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the motivation thing that's what I love
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and again any great story
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I mean you know i'm always pulling up to
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the high level but I got I'm always the
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most fascinated by stories as
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representing something that starts in a
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certain state and eventually more or
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less ends in another state and what we
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learn about somebody who's faced with
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something that seems impossible
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that's what makes a great story so when
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your face when were in life where face
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it was something impossible like how do
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we handle it like not great a lot of the
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time and along the way you are your
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integrity as a person is constantly
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tested by all these opportunities to try
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and handle this in a way that feels like
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it's going to be less stressful or
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whatever and I think someone's along the
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way it's it's worth you know you don't
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sit down and turn it into some kind of
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afterschool special but you could you
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could do it on there
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equestria girls you can you just sit
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there and go like you know why why is
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this why is this person behaving in the
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way that they are do you think anyway
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and having bought a son and a daughter
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when i asked the two questions of the
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nine-year-old son and a seven-year-old
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daughter it is shocking how much more
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the seven-year-old daughter is able to
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understand what's going on in the
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emotional world of the characters on the
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screen i mean i know that's a stereotype
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but I've got the two kids and I guess
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the two kids the questions and despite a
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three-year age difference the
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seven-year-old knows why that girl or
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boys upset and the nine-year-old if he
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knows he's not saying so that brings us
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to the end of our show and i would like
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to thank my lovely gasps for once again
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spending some time talking about a
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miyazaki movie with me Merlin man it was
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great to have you back
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thanks man it's a it's always a joy to
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be here appreciate it I'm glad youwere
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you could take the time and i love i
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love talking about these crazy crazy
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miyazaki movies with you it's great
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sluts thank you for a for coming in for
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watching this movie for the first time
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and thus I thank you for making me watch
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this movie for first and second time i
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really enjoyed it you I didn't make you
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I mean you volunteered to do and
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bridging all right okay then i have to
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get the band back together that sure
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you're a little bit up here you're right
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i did i'd pick that's all right to
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define time and I'd I feel like my my my
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horizons have been expanded yet again
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prognosis of miyazaki yeah
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yep yep and John syracuse I would've
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done without you thanks for being here
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wouldn't miss it my favorite miyazaki
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movie i know i'm with you i'm right
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there with you
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and so that wraps it up if you liked
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this podcast check out episode 84 which
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is me and John talking about miyazaki
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and this gang in episode 144 talking
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about my neighbor totoro so thanks
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everybody out there for listening to the
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uncomfortable
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we'll see you next time
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