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Roderick on the Line

Ep. 179: "A Good Box"

 

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00:00:17   they ask paul and storm to help me say [TS]

00:00:19   hi to john good morning John what's [TS]

00:00:21   going on how are things with you find [TS]

00:00:24   out about John Roderick ha [TS]

00:00:32   hello [TS]

00:00:38   I John the in mint John John John no big [TS]

00:00:49   bad John is kool maze and say one reason [TS]

00:00:53   Golan and thank-yous old and sick colon [TS]

00:00:56   to thank you so praising the coordinates [TS]

00:00:58   the ninth useful [TS]

00:00:59   alright great umpire a button-up think [TS]

00:01:03   that oh you know what fuck you [TS]

00:01:06   oh god my head all day that's all it [TS]

00:01:11   takes and he got that you got dr. worm [TS]

00:01:13   you gotta listen to what a real doctor [TS]

00:01:16   but is anything he's getting better on [TS]

00:01:18   the drums you can handle criticism [TS]

00:01:20   oh man also you know another one from [TS]

00:01:22   them [TS]

00:01:23   man it's so loud in here oh yeah it's [TS]

00:01:27   tough to get stuck in your head another [TS]

00:01:29   one for me last week to me three days to [TS]

00:01:31   get rid of [TS]

00:01:32   listen to what the man set 0 which has [TS]

00:01:34   so many hooks [TS]

00:01:37   well the thing is he said no no no do [TS]

00:01:41   you know what soprano sax I'll allow it [TS]

00:01:48   I get in so many arguments about that [TS]

00:01:50   era of paul mccartney that now that song [TS]

00:01:52   is unimpeachably great absolutely [TS]

00:01:55   wonderful two hundred percent wonderful [TS]

00:01:59   the absolutely the best completely [TS]

00:02:02   conjures the seventies for me makes me [TS]

00:02:03   feel like a kid again [TS]

00:02:05   yep nonsensical oh you're not [TS]

00:02:09   communicate any cogent thought I think [TS]

00:02:13   he stopped doing a second pass on lyrics [TS]

00:02:15   I mean it's pure music absolutely pure [TS]

00:02:18   right music means nothing makes yellow [TS]

00:02:21   lyrics look like chalk and if this [TS]

00:02:26   ever-changing well in which we live in [TS]

00:02:29   no makes you [TS]

00:02:31   that's terrible nothing works when I was [TS]

00:02:34   little I thought he was I thought he was [TS]

00:02:35   just like I just high on prepositions I [TS]

00:02:38   thought he said in this ever-changing [TS]

00:02:40   world in which we live in [TS]

00:02:42   yeah I thought he said that to ya but [TS]

00:02:44   but even though he's not saying that [TS]

00:02:46   it's just as bad [TS]

00:02:48   yeah no man he had they had a run are so [TS]

00:02:50   good so good the you but it requires [TS]

00:02:53   that I think that music is supposed to [TS]

00:02:56   do a different thing than it then I [TS]

00:02:57   think it is supposed to do what show is [TS]

00:02:59   this [TS]

00:03:01   it's not like Buddhism oh it really is [TS]

00:03:05   that really is [TS]

00:03:06   did I tell you you speaking of which I [TS]

00:03:11   got ice when i arrived at the office [TS]

00:03:12   today there was a pop-up box waiting for [TS]

00:03:14   me [TS]

00:03:15   have you heard of your on my other show [TS]

00:03:18   haha i do is sort of unboxing on bottom [TS]

00:03:24   unboxing segment yeah yeah I think [TS]

00:03:26   you're a I think I think I think your [TS]

00:03:30   chemistry have enough period right now [TS]

00:03:32   yeah because you you announced your [TS]

00:03:34   office address yeah it was like 123 [TS]

00:03:36   make-believe street no down USA [TS]

00:03:38   yeah that's right [TS]

00:03:39   one-two-three-four-five [TS]

00:03:41   one-two-three-four-five Seattle Seattle [TS]

00:03:43   Street Hotel street seattle town [TS]

00:03:45   us-american 123 trap Street battle [TS]

00:03:48   America so you announced on your other [TS]

00:03:52   program which I which I do listen to you [TS]

00:03:54   had announced that you want people to [TS]

00:03:56   send you anything that's not dead with [TS]

00:03:59   an asterisk right and so people are [TS]

00:04:01   doing that now [TS]

00:04:02   yeah I said anybody that's a maker of [TS]

00:04:04   things that's making stuff and they [TS]

00:04:07   won't get a crucifix made a pube and [TS]

00:04:09   they will have they want me to test it [TS]

00:04:11   out right there like I'm making this you [TS]

00:04:14   know making these leather watch bands or [TS]

00:04:16   i'm making this you know this feathered [TS]

00:04:19   headdress or I'm making you know this [TS]

00:04:21   these strange Mormon undergarments and [TS]

00:04:24   I'm just you know I just want to get it [TS]

00:04:26   out there in the world i'm just not sure [TS]

00:04:27   how to do that [TS]

00:04:29   send it to me send it to me and i will [TS]

00:04:31   test that shit out for you and I'll and [TS]

00:04:34   I'll talk about it on my program and [TS]

00:04:35   they had the address here are my program [TS]

00:04:37   the address here 815 Seattle boulevard [TS]

00:04:41   good seattle washington [TS]

00:04:43   united 898 134 office 332 intend to say [TS]

00:04:50   that's AI just send me your stuff I know [TS]

00:04:53   you're working on things and you're [TS]

00:04:54   building banjos out there i know you are [TS]

00:04:57   a yeah you're working with goods you [TS]

00:05:00   working with your making some artisanal [TS]

00:05:01   t a banjo would be awesome [TS]

00:05:04   yeah feathered headdress my goodness i [TS]

00:05:06   could see where the feather headdress do [TS]

00:05:08   you remember a fan of ours came up to us [TS]

00:05:11   a couple of years ago and I may not [TS]

00:05:13   handed us two banjos made out of cigar [TS]

00:05:17   boxes oh yeah that was pretty sweet yeah [TS]

00:05:19   I still got one of those i still play [TS]

00:05:22   all the time I tuned it to a kind of [TS]

00:05:24   like you know raga tuning and I sit on [TS]

00:05:27   this [TS]

00:05:28   I sit on the steps i play my daughter to [TS]

00:05:29   sleep with this cigar box banjo that's a [TS]

00:05:31   horrifying vision my meltdown [TS]

00:05:34   yeah i just dropped to my ukulele guitar [TS]

00:05:36   and I never looked back [TS]

00:05:37   Oh see dr. from an 80 g sounds very very [TS]

00:05:41   metal a power now you can play prison [TS]

00:05:43   colon and something pleasing cold an [TS]

00:05:45   instant queues alright and it's so loud [TS]

00:05:49   in here i'm gonna get a good [TS]

00:05:52   thanksgiving you know it's been a year [TS]

00:05:55   since I've done by they might be giants [TS]

00:05:57   presentation ready yeah don't get [TS]

00:05:58   anything going down down down down [TS]

00:06:01   that's it I'm done do you want to know a [TS]

00:06:03   funny thing i would love to know if [TS]

00:06:05   anything just don't give out any more [TS]

00:06:07   personal information so i just mention [TS]

00:06:09   your daughter [TS]

00:06:09   hi just looked under the keyboard of my [TS]

00:06:12   computer and there's an envelope [TS]

00:06:15   oh this is how it starts this is it this [TS]

00:06:18   is what you've been waiting for [TS]

00:06:19   we'll see and I don't understand how [TS]

00:06:20   this would have happened it's posted the [TS]

00:06:22   third of november so that's that's a [TS]

00:06:25   while back [TS]

00:06:25   yeah and it's from waltham massachusetts [TS]

00:06:30   it's a purple envelope [TS]

00:06:34   it's addressed to me at 815 Seattle [TS]

00:06:36   boulevard office number 32 [TS]

00:06:39   I was in waltham massachusetts not so [TS]

00:06:41   long ago ms the home of the the email [TS]

00:06:45   marketing company constant contact [TS]

00:06:47   really constant contact they make great [TS]

00:06:50   tell you they do they do it people are [TS]

00:06:51   constantly contacting them on it [TS]

00:06:53   yeah junkie so let me talk there waltham [TS]

00:06:56   massachusetts probably named after [TS]

00:06:57   waltham abbey a town north of london [TS]

00:07:00   england LOL Londontown England waltham [TS]

00:07:03   abbey being an abbey ok [TS]

00:07:06   purple purple entirely purple envelope [TS]

00:07:09   verbal envelope was that culturally [TS]

00:07:11   significant John and sometimes around [TS]

00:07:13   the it's not ping-pong to say chinese [TS]

00:07:15   new year you give out a red envelope [TS]

00:07:16   that's gotta get you don't cut your hair [TS]

00:07:18   don't sweep the house right bad luck [TS]

00:07:20   OIC was a purple envelope me well i [TS]

00:07:23   think in waltham massachusetts this and [TS]

00:07:24   a purple envelope this particular [TS]

00:07:26   envelope is the color of let's say a [TS]

00:07:29   black berry smoothie and I think [TS]

00:07:32   traditionally in the Massachusetts [TS]

00:07:34   culture a black berry smoothie colored [TS]

00:07:36   envelope means may you have many oysters [TS]

00:07:38   this year is that a harbinger or an omen [TS]

00:07:40   I think it's a harbinger okay if I got [TS]

00:07:42   if i had a letter that where they were [TS]

00:07:45   the envelope was a pretentious like if [TS]

00:07:48   it had fur me something indicated that [TS]

00:07:51   there might be some if I may say animism [TS]

00:07:53   if it was a black envelope with gold [TS]

00:07:56   foil [TS]

00:07:57   whoo-hoo right yes you're gonna get [TS]

00:08:00   invited to a witch's mass or [TS]

00:08:02   international government organization [TS]

00:08:04   you've never heard of [TS]

00:08:04   hello I would open that shit right away [TS]

00:08:07   and then maybe there would be a curse or [TS]

00:08:09   maybe I would be a member of a secret [TS]

00:08:12   institution [TS]

00:08:13   I think you would have you know what has [TS]

00:08:14   a clue we have a grind amounts to an [TS]

00:08:17   elaborate puzzle right exactly i would [TS]

00:08:20   have to wait too long hope it hasn't [TS]

00:08:22   expired everything like an offer code [TS]

00:08:23   and have to go on an adventure what this [TS]

00:08:25   is the thing I'm not sure whether I am [TS]

00:08:27   obligated to not open these packages [TS]

00:08:31   because it's a bit sad because it's a [TS]

00:08:33   bit on my other show or whether whether [TS]

00:08:37   every time I walk into my office I just [TS]

00:08:38   unbox whatever it is this is your main [TS]

00:08:41   show you can do everything back [TS]

00:08:47   that's how you know that's how you know [TS]

00:08:49   it's working that's how you know it's [TS]

00:08:50   the rhetoric on the line because i don't [TS]

00:08:52   have a cough button there any can't get [TS]

00:08:55   your mp3's there on the computer 50,000 [TS]

00:08:57   53 get three computers and then they say [TS]

00:09:01   you can listen to your song you can [TS]

00:09:03   listen to AC news first solo album [TS]

00:09:05   do you know how many replies i have [TS]

00:09:07   already gotten to that you have any idea [TS]

00:09:08   how easy that problem is too fast [TS]

00:09:11   oh so many people John listen John [TS]

00:09:14   siracusa will be tearing out his hair [TS]

00:09:16   it's so easy to fix [TS]

00:09:18   I think part of my part of the reason [TS]

00:09:20   i'm here on earth is to be a bugbear [TS]

00:09:22   literally a Dungeons and Dragons bugbear [TS]

00:09:25   to John Syracuse's half-orc yeah because [TS]

00:09:31   what you're really good internet video [TS]

00:09:32   about the creatures of Lord of the Rings [TS]

00:09:34   cgpgrey makes these videos that explain [TS]

00:09:36   complicated things and so I learned [TS]

00:09:37   about all the many creatures of lord of [TS]

00:09:39   the rings that has he ever made a video [TS]

00:09:41   explaining why those dumb Star Wars [TS]

00:09:43   movies got made [TS]

00:09:45   no but he you know he's great at is most [TS]

00:09:47   famous one if its first we got famous [TS]

00:09:49   for was explaining the difference [TS]

00:09:51   between the UK the British Isles and [TS]

00:09:54   what is that it's really good it's a [TS]

00:09:56   really good video he has a lot of [TS]

00:09:58   personality in his voice oh he's [TS]

00:10:00   terrific he really well he's just [TS]

00:10:01   finally famous he's very very gifted but [TS]

00:10:03   also he's done great ones I about the [TS]

00:10:05   history of monarchy in the UK very good [TS]

00:10:08   how you become the Pope i did not know [TS]

00:10:10   how you become a pope very interesting [TS]

00:10:12   yeah you gotta move up through the ranks [TS]

00:10:13   to become a priest [TS]

00:10:14   if you're lucky you make the cut you [TS]

00:10:16   become a you become a bishop bishop then [TS]

00:10:19   castle / are you mr. Wade sure sure and [TS]

00:10:22   eventually become one of the Cardinals [TS]

00:10:23   the Cardinals meet they vote four times [TS]

00:10:25   a day six days a week to save the day of [TS]

00:10:27   the week for praying and they put some [TS]

00:10:29   stuff in the chimney makes a white and [TS]

00:10:31   got a pope [TS]

00:10:31   yeah yes Matt nice that's a nice process [TS]

00:10:34   that's a nice it's a nice it's a nice [TS]

00:10:35   process it feels really homegrown it [TS]

00:10:37   feels very it feels very authentic and [TS]

00:10:40   that is the way that you kind of get to [TS]

00:10:42   what God is thinking you know one of [TS]

00:10:44   those videos you learned some stuff [TS]

00:10:45   here's a question for you [TS]

00:10:47   you mentioned i think a little bit on [TS]

00:10:49   the program with dan what's what do you [TS]

00:10:51   feel is your obligation or promise [TS]

00:10:53   what is your commitment in terms of when [TS]

00:10:54   people send you stuff what's gonna [TS]

00:10:56   happen he might do you write a thank-you [TS]

00:10:58   note [TS]

00:10:58   oh it's hard for me to write a thank you [TS]

00:11:01   note it's always bad [TS]

00:11:02   I gotta thank you i gotta ask somebody [TS]

00:11:04   bought me some of my amazon less time [TS]

00:11:05   any mail the next day [TS]

00:11:06   that's so good that's really good to do [TS]

00:11:09   40th anniversary [TS]

00:11:11   monty python and the holy grail blu-ray [TS]

00:11:13   box set comes with a catapult and for [TS]

00:11:15   animals [TS]

00:11:16   good grief yeah my daughter's loving it [TS]

00:11:18   what a fantastic gift [TS]

00:11:20   yeah it's fantastic here's the thing [TS]

00:11:21   that I don't think thank you thank you [TS]

00:11:23   have to go as a because i would say [TS]

00:11:25   jared Thank You Jared thank you that was [TS]

00:11:28   a great gift [TS]

00:11:29   Monty Python box set so what is your [TS]

00:11:31   internal or external what you're feeling [TS]

00:11:33   so it sounds like part of what you're [TS]

00:11:35   offering is notes [TS]

00:11:36   yeah I'm commentary you're going to put [TS]

00:11:38   this in a cultural context which is [TS]

00:11:39   something everybody could use that's [TS]

00:11:40   right I i feel like i am going to give [TS]

00:11:45   an honest appraisal of the whole [TS]

00:11:48   experience right like here comes a box [TS]

00:11:51   if I've talked to you in advance about [TS]

00:11:53   this i have already forgotten it so i [TS]

00:11:56   have no idea what's in any box that [TS]

00:11:58   arrives at my house if I wish I had that [TS]

00:12:00   printed on the card I could just give to [TS]

00:12:01   people haha if I've talked to you about [TS]

00:12:04   this in advance i have already have [TS]

00:12:06   probably forgotten it yeah so everyone i [TS]

00:12:09   order stuff on ebay when I order stuff [TS]

00:12:11   at amazon when people tell me they're [TS]

00:12:12   gonna send me things I immediately [TS]

00:12:13   forget it and so every time I arrived [TS]

00:12:15   home and there's a box on the doorstep [TS]

00:12:17   I have no idea what it is and it's a [TS]

00:12:19   wonderful Christmas morning every time [TS]

00:12:21   so i will so i'll open the box on the [TS]

00:12:25   on-air and i will be surprised by what's [TS]

00:12:29   inside and I'll describe the whole [TS]

00:12:31   experience and then i will i will try to [TS]

00:12:33   utilize the item as best i can and then [TS]

00:12:38   explain my experience of using it now if [TS]

00:12:42   it's if i if I'm trying to use the thing [TS]

00:12:43   and it's not useful i will probably [TS]

00:12:46   describe that [TS]

00:12:47   mm but I feel like a lot of our [TS]

00:12:50   listeners are making things and they're [TS]

00:12:52   making things [TS]

00:12:53   well some of it is in the category of [TS]

00:12:56   art where it's now difficult to know how [TS]

00:12:59   to use it you can only appreciate it or [TS]

00:13:03   not appreciated [TS]

00:13:04   mm but I will you know i will use my i [TS]

00:13:07   will use all of my faculties to like a [TS]

00:13:10   praise the thing okay that's my promise [TS]

00:13:12   to you [TS]

00:13:13   okay well I you know I'm here I serve at [TS]

00:13:15   your pleasure if you want to save that [TS]

00:13:16   for your show with Dan that's fine if [TS]

00:13:18   you'd like to open it that would be [TS]

00:13:19   great to I'm very curious about the [TS]

00:13:20   envelope [TS]

00:13:21   well that's the thing it's that the [TS]

00:13:22   envelope and is more effective more [TS]

00:13:24   you've got me saying envelope now and I [TS]

00:13:26   but I normally say envelope is that [TS]

00:13:30   thing I don't know I say I say I still [TS]

00:13:33   say aunt like aunt and uncle and I get [TS]

00:13:35   corrected my daughter [TS]

00:13:36   although she says aren't where is she [TS]

00:13:39   from all she goes to yeah she goes to [TS]

00:13:40   school in San Francisco [TS]

00:13:42   well now we don't talk about to force my [TS]

00:13:43   it's my my my wife stone family because [TS]

00:13:45   they're from New England Cisse aunt on [TS]

00:13:48   like that's the thing weird [TS]

00:13:49   ya know any envelope envelope is it not [TS]

00:13:54   its envelope i guess maybe this one [TS]

00:13:57   seems like an envelope that purple first [TS]

00:13:59   was purple seconds from its from the [TS]

00:14:01   Northeast so it probably came probably [TS]

00:14:04   came as an envelope [TS]

00:14:05   what if it's something that you can talk [TS]

00:14:07   about let's let's i'm going to open the [TS]

00:14:09   jaw is that John is addressing the [TS]

00:14:11   envelope i'm using my ikea shears [TS]

00:14:19   thank you to our team sponsors this week [TS]

00:14:21   John is opening his mail here we go all [TS]

00:14:24   my goodness inside the purple envelope [TS]

00:14:28   is a yellow piece of paper and the two [TS]

00:14:31   colors contrast against one another [TS]

00:14:33   delightfully so far so good it's a [TS]

00:14:36   pretty long letter [TS]

00:14:38   oh my goodness so it's to pick know you [TS]

00:14:45   have two pages yellow pages and the [TS]

00:14:50   first sentences as promised I have no [TS]

00:14:53   recollection of receiving any promise as [TS]

00:14:57   promised please find enclosed a few [TS]

00:14:59   mementos from my recent trip overseas [TS]

00:15:01   and here it is Merlin it is a stack of [TS]

00:15:07   saudi arabian money [TS]

00:15:10   saudi arabian money and a [TS]

00:15:13   Czechoslovakian stamp not a check stamp [TS]

00:15:18   or a Slovak stamp but a Czechoslovakian [TS]

00:15:22   stamp when did when did that stop being [TS]

00:15:23   a the check place when did you change [TS]

00:15:25   the name on that [TS]

00:15:26   well it would have happened after the [TS]

00:15:27   velvet revolution of 1989 and they split [TS]

00:15:31   up in the early nineties ok for pretty [TS]

00:15:34   fast because the slow box went away [TS]

00:15:37   slovak swatted out from under that check [TS]

00:15:39   Dominion and they wanted to form what [TS]

00:15:43   ended up being a totally repressive [TS]

00:15:45   government while the checks flourished [TS]

00:15:48   in there [TS]

00:15:49   Vaclav Havel super-state of poets and [TS]

00:15:52   playwrights playwrights the slow box [TS]

00:15:55   were like now we're tired of being ruled [TS]

00:15:57   by the those damn checks and then they [TS]

00:16:01   can pay LG remember life under eugene [TS]

00:16:04   o'neill yeah they elevated a like [TS]

00:16:07   despotic former communists assholio and [TS]

00:16:13   then slovakia just was like oh damn and [TS]

00:16:17   I think they're I think they're [TS]

00:16:18   recovering now I think they're I think [TS]

00:16:20   the slovak sauron their way but they [TS]

00:16:22   think they handicap themselves for the [TS]

00:16:25   four you get i'm looking at a picture [TS]

00:16:26   here of a Saudi rai al [TS]

00:16:28   yeah that's right are ya real reality [TS]

00:16:31   and it's got its got a picture fell on [TS]

00:16:33   it [TS]

00:16:33   mhm and I keep asking myself is that the [TS]

00:16:35   best picture they had well it's a pretty [TS]

00:16:37   strange picture and I have to stay it's [TS]

00:16:40   got to be king fahd al sure uh but then [TS]

00:16:45   there's one of these four bills i have [TS]

00:16:48   where it seems like the picture is of [TS]

00:16:51   King well so i think that the the three [TS]

00:16:56   bills might be king sound and then this [TS]

00:16:59   is king fahd his son then there's a kind [TS]

00:17:02   of a kind of looks like salieri with [TS]

00:17:07   glasses [TS]

00:17:07   yeah i guess a different guy you know [TS]

00:17:10   the famous Saudi ambassador to the [TS]

00:17:12   United States we have F murray Abraham [TS]

00:17:14   yeah he's a he's a he's always been like [TS]

00:17:19   a cultural attaché [TS]

00:17:21   and.and he's a he's a very expansive [TS]

00:17:24   personality and he sort of the face of [TS]

00:17:27   Saudi longtime face of saudi arabia in [TS]

00:17:29   the United States and I think he was [TS]

00:17:32   recently recalled or or banished [TS]

00:17:36   something happened some intrigue [TS]

00:17:37   oh yes and this picture kind of looks [TS]

00:17:41   like him but it's it's not because they [TS]

00:17:44   wouldn't put him on the money i would [TS]

00:17:45   that be embarrassing [TS]

00:17:46   it's you know that's the thing about [TS]

00:17:48   those dynasties right there are so many [TS]

00:17:50   princes in saudi arabia and which one is [TS]

00:17:53   going to be the king is is like there's [TS]

00:17:57   a there's a ton of intrigue there anyway [TS]

00:17:59   so i took the letter reads on i was in [TS]

00:18:03   Saudi Arabia so it's very difficult to [TS]

00:18:04   go to Saudi Arabia i have learned you [TS]

00:18:07   can't just kill it was not simply walk [TS]

00:18:09   into Saudi Arabia know because their [TS]

00:18:11   mentality is we don't need Western [TS]

00:18:13   tourism here we have all the money in [TS]

00:18:15   the world and so why you are going to [TS]

00:18:17   come here and you're going to look ask [TS]

00:18:19   ants at our other veils and you're gonna [TS]

00:18:24   try and use your Western powers to screw [TS]

00:18:27   with us [TS]

00:18:28   outlook was only right locals only on [TS]

00:18:30   this Beach so why would we asked you to [TS]

00:18:32   come here what do you bring we don't [TS]

00:18:33   need your money so what else are you [TS]

00:18:35   bringing we don't need your culture [TS]

00:18:37   either so tell us why we should let you [TS]

00:18:39   here and very few people can pass that [TS]

00:18:43   bar i think a lot of think the people to [TS]

00:18:44   do cover like we are engineering [TS]

00:18:46   professors or we are loyal mucky-mucks [TS]

00:18:50   em anyway so this person says I was in [TS]

00:18:54   saudi arabia for one week which is [TS]

00:18:55   extraordinary for work i administer a [TS]

00:18:58   fellowship for Saudi women at MIT [TS]

00:19:01   wow that's so cool we sponsor Saudi [TS]

00:19:04   women phd's to come to MIT to conduct [TS]

00:19:07   research [TS]

00:19:08   wow that's wow video podcast for you we [TS]

00:19:12   do a podcast almost every week we can't [TS]

00:19:14   sponsor anyone [TS]

00:19:16   well but you know what write that down [TS]

00:19:19   we should have a scholarship and we can [TS]

00:19:20   change that that's right down right now [TS]

00:19:22   we need a scholarship we could sponsor [TS]

00:19:23   something I get the feeling that all of [TS]

00:19:25   the applicants would be a men in their [TS]

00:19:28   early twenties from New Zealand em but [TS]

00:19:32   we can find work for them in terms of [TS]

00:19:33   podcasts [TS]

00:19:34   Germans do and slow box of podcasts and [TS]

00:19:38   the Balkans John no okay a god that's so [TS]

00:19:43   cool [TS]

00:19:44   then what I want a neat project well [TS]

00:19:45   it's wonderful and you know i have that [TS]

00:19:46   i have that collection of money from all [TS]

00:19:48   over and I never would have thought I [TS]

00:19:52   was going to get saudi arabian money but [TS]

00:19:53   now i have some just in case really it's [TS]

00:19:55   really pretty and very complicated and [TS]

00:19:57   what's nice is that you know a lot of [TS]

00:20:01   money puts English on itself but oh IC [TS]

00:20:07   they actually have I thought I thought [TS]

00:20:10   that this money was going to have no [TS]

00:20:12   English on it was all going to be in [TS]

00:20:13   Arabic and a wonderful script but then [TS]

00:20:16   on the back it does a saudi arabian [TS]

00:20:18   monetary agency King Abdullah bin [TS]

00:20:21   Abdulaziz al-saud mhm which is an [TS]

00:20:25   awesome name to cool name [TS]

00:20:27   i have 10 rial 5c hard when he gets high [TS]

00:20:30   score on like stargate also what do you [TS]

00:20:34   play [TS]

00:20:34   alright just what you put poop you don't [TS]

00:20:38   get four letters [TS]

00:20:39   oh you put a big dik Assad has done it [TS]

00:20:49   again a damn it damn it he can get all [TS]

00:20:52   the mutants is right at the top but i [TS]

00:20:55   don't so I haven't read deeply enough [TS]

00:20:57   into the letter to know what the [TS]

00:20:58   significance of the Czechoslovakian [TS]

00:21:01   stamp is but I but i'm very excited by [TS]

00:21:04   um can I can make a suggestion [TS]

00:21:06   yeah see I like the idea that you guys [TS]

00:21:08   talked about this i know they do this on [TS]

00:21:11   on RT podcast like they always ask [TS]

00:21:13   people to say where they're from on the [TS]

00:21:15   TV podcast always have to see what your [TS]

00:21:16   area code is I think two things would be [TS]

00:21:18   helpful [TS]

00:21:18   where is that person from ya MIP and is [TS]

00:21:21   it ok to read on the air [TS]

00:21:22   Oh may I read your letter on the right I [TS]

00:21:24   think we should just say he says to me [TS]

00:21:26   I'm gonna read on the air so don't make [TS]

00:21:27   it weird [TS]

00:21:27   ok that's right if you're going to if [TS]

00:21:29   you sent me a weird letter i'm gonna [TS]

00:21:30   read on the air anyway I did this person [TS]

00:21:33   has not as good expressly allowed that [TS]

00:21:36   they can that I can read this on the air [TS]

00:21:39   and frankly I don't even know if they [TS]

00:21:40   are podcast listener they may have [TS]

00:21:42   contacted me separately and said [TS]

00:21:45   I would like to send you something and I [TS]

00:21:47   said yeah by all means send it to be [TS]

00:21:49   awkward conversations by the Keurig [TS]

00:21:51   machine at MIT time said it to me at 815 [TS]

00:21:54   Seattle boulevard a town USA 12345 etude [TS]

00:21:58   to office 322 which I so yeah but you [TS]

00:22:02   know I have a lot of a lot of fans and [TS]

00:22:04   friends at MIT sure and sent us this is [TS]

00:22:09   I mean of course right they're working [TS]

00:22:11   they're working for DARPA but they're [TS]

00:22:13   really working for me anyway so that's [TS]

00:22:16   wonderful that's that that that made my [TS]

00:22:19   morning [TS]

00:22:20   that's a nice gift yeah and then that [TS]

00:22:21   did feel that felt appropriately [TS]

00:22:23   connected to this program [TS]

00:22:25   uh-huh and then the box whatever is in [TS]

00:22:28   the wait a minute now the boxes from [TS]

00:22:29   amazon prime that's not something [TS]

00:22:31   somebody made oh they just could be a [TS]

00:22:35   straight-up reading maybe dildo [TS]

00:22:36   let me see you save it for Dan shaken [TS]

00:22:39   but I don't want I don't take your [TS]

00:22:41   material for Dan this doesn't sound like [TS]

00:22:42   a dildo [TS]

00:22:44   what's your sense giving you hate kid [TS]

00:22:46   you won't give another shake the think [TS]

00:22:51   it's a book or possibly a blu-ray box [TS]

00:22:53   set it would be a very light weight [TS]

00:22:55   dildo and I think one of the criteria of [TS]

00:22:58   the dildo is that have a little heft [TS]

00:23:00   should have a little should have good [TS]

00:23:01   hand feel ya you don't want you don't [TS]

00:23:03   want to do that's like looking at you [TS]

00:23:05   know like this doesn't approximate [TS]

00:23:07   anything [TS]

00:23:08   well I think if there's anything you [TS]

00:23:09   don't want a dildo it sits in [TS]

00:23:11   substantial right regardless of the size [TS]

00:23:14   i mean i think it should it should have [TS]

00:23:15   some gravitas [TS]

00:23:17   yeah right i mean a dildo ultimately [TS]

00:23:18   like a light dildo it's it's like the [TS]

00:23:21   field roast of penises [TS]

00:23:23   what is it was filled with jon is [TS]

00:23:25   Atlanta jager field roast is a real [TS]

00:23:28   gross is a product made here in [TS]

00:23:30   Washington made here in seattle [TS]

00:23:31   washington which is a meat substitute so [TS]

00:23:35   in some Seattle restaurants you can get [TS]

00:23:38   a field roast meatloaf or field roast [TS]

00:23:42   turkey dinner and it's just a [TS]

00:23:46   combination of vegetables formed into [TS]

00:23:50   the shape of a look at westfield roast a [TS]

00:23:53   big potato [TS]

00:23:54   yeah and it's a it's delightful it's not [TS]

00:23:57   especially like [TS]

00:23:59   meet but it is something that you can [TS]

00:24:01   eat instead of meat and get in and [TS]

00:24:03   mexican chipotle that's right and so [TS]

00:24:06   when I think of a dildo [TS]

00:24:08   I mean a lot of dildos are our [TS]

00:24:09   exaggeratedly other they're made of [TS]

00:24:12   glass they seem like they're somebody's [TS]

00:24:14   making bongs and then a bong failed and [TS]

00:24:18   they were like I think about building [TS]

00:24:19   design starts a bomb i think probably [TS]

00:24:22   someone's making glass bombs and the [TS]

00:24:24   ones that don't really like that they [TS]

00:24:28   don't they're not filled with bong life [TS]

00:24:30   right [TS]

00:24:31   collapse upon themselves or their tube [TS]

00:24:33   honky they're just like right and they [TS]

00:24:37   move that over to a separate place of [TS]

00:24:38   the Senate assembly line and there's [TS]

00:24:40   somebody turning those shape and bones [TS]

00:24:42   into dildos that is smart operationally [TS]

00:24:44   that is super smart but you don't want a [TS]

00:24:45   car by your dildo unless that's your [TS]

00:24:46   thing [TS]

00:24:47   well who doesn't exactly mean although [TS]

00:24:49   if you could put a carbon a dildo and [TS]

00:24:51   then just like Paul people love [TS]

00:24:53   marijuana John and they they like doing [TS]

00:24:55   stuff with dildos I think there could be [TS]

00:24:56   an opportunity in the market here but [TS]

00:24:58   here's what about your friend mitc it's [TS]

00:24:59   just something in the grand for what [TS]

00:25:00   people are gonna listen to this program [TS]

00:25:02   and they're going to change the way they [TS]

00:25:03   are making build bombs and another note [TS]

00:25:05   we need a grant to go to a separate [TS]

00:25:07   business it's give scholarships get [TS]

00:25:09   grants I do i do feel like dildos are [TS]

00:25:11   are the field roast of of water bongs [TS]

00:25:14   who but you know what i mean like it's [TS]

00:25:16   up as a it's a meat substitute yeah and [TS]

00:25:19   so it has to approximate some of the [TS]

00:25:21   qualities of the original item you can [TS]

00:25:25   also get in fun colors a lot like a bomb [TS]

00:25:27   well and probably just buy yourself a [TS]

00:25:29   purple dildo that's the thing you can [TS]

00:25:30   get penises in a lot of colors [TS]

00:25:33   that's true Hakuna Matata and said I'll [TS]

00:25:37   say alright I'm opening this box okay [TS]

00:25:38   once again thank you very much to our to [TS]

00:25:40   sponsor this week John is open his dildo [TS]

00:25:42   box [TS]

00:25:43   alright so it's from amazon prime or [TS]

00:25:46   second sponsor thank you [TS]

00:25:47   well it's full of little little bags LOL [TS]

00:25:50   airbags airbag sure is [TS]

00:25:53   the first thing we have to do the bags [TS]

00:25:59   inside is a an actual wrapped box [TS]

00:26:05   oh is it the blue wrapping paper yeah [TS]

00:26:07   it's a gift-wrapped box [TS]

00:26:08   somebody paid extra to have that rap for [TS]

00:26:09   you that nice and that yeah they did [TS]

00:26:12   visit dildo shaped at the bottom [TS]

00:26:14   no it's just a square box at the bottom [TS]

00:26:17   of the of the amazon box is a is a like [TS]

00:26:20   a different color yellow [TS]

00:26:22   I'd say this one is orange an envelope [TS]

00:26:25   that says keep your gift to surprise [TS]

00:26:27   that's the gift receipt unwrap your [TS]

00:26:29   present before opening this envelope so [TS]

00:26:31   if I open this envelope it will tell me [TS]

00:26:33   with the gift is you don't do that and [TS]

00:26:35   also if you're going to use the dildo [TS]

00:26:36   you know you want to really clean that [TS]

00:26:37   up for you send it back [TS]

00:26:39   oh right term here gentlemen I don't [TS]

00:26:41   know will they take that back i think [TS]

00:26:43   they have to okay that's the Magna Carta [TS]

00:26:45   so now here I'm back to have to make [TS]

00:26:48   another conundrum [TS]

00:26:50   yeah because there's a little there's a [TS]

00:26:53   little a climate gift card [TS]

00:26:55   yeah happy note on the top and it's [TS]

00:26:57   decorated with snowflakes which means [TS]

00:27:00   that this is a Christmas present right i [TS]

00:27:03   think you could open the flap egift card [TS]

00:27:04   and i'll give you guidance [TS]

00:27:06   all right here we go it's not [TS]

00:27:09   handwritten because it was done by [TS]

00:27:11   others like one crummy little text box [TS]

00:27:13   you feel that it always gets weird the [TS]

00:27:14   line breaks are weird and amazon should [TS]

00:27:16   really fix that [TS]

00:27:17   alright here we go hi John big fan of [TS]

00:27:19   all the great shows [TS]

00:27:20   nice nice reference here is something [TS]

00:27:23   that works great for refreshing and [TS]

00:27:26   cleaning guitar strings huh i first read [TS]

00:27:30   about it here [TS]

00:27:31   HTTP colon forward slash forward slash [TS]

00:27:34   bitd ly /a one capital m m capital D I x [TS]

00:27:44   ! that's aye-aye captain slow k psych [TS]

00:27:49   capital m capital and capital D [TS]

00:27:51   lowercase I uppercase X I think it's [TS]

00:27:54   luke numeral one md and then unclear [TS]

00:27:59   whether it's an iron L say amazon's [TS]

00:28:01   gotta get on this thing is IX I frankly [TS]

00:28:04   anyway from Dmitri battery in ski what a [TS]

00:28:08   great name up and it may even be Perry [TS]

00:28:12   in ski-e-o perience Kelly no see this i [TS]

00:28:16   can't read the Amazons and writing this [TS]

00:28:18   is terrible [TS]

00:28:19   alright so this is a guitar string [TS]

00:28:20   refresher huh in the box i will now have [TS]

00:28:24   given it away and open [TS]

00:28:26   yeah from Dmitri like you get that you [TS]

00:28:31   want to get into r3 sponsors this week [TS]

00:28:33   amazon prime go oh it's the sticker has [TS]

00:28:40   kind of become amazing don't appear on [TS]

00:28:42   more podcast lists the stick [TS]

00:28:44   well fuck is the AV club for us the [TS]

00:28:47   sticker is sort of defaced the box which [TS]

00:28:49   is a pigment really bothers me when I [TS]

00:28:51   don't know tram is on today no i want to [TS]

00:28:53   but if you're sending me a box i wanted [TS]

00:28:55   to be a reusable box i don't want your [TS]

00:28:57   sticker dunk [TS]

00:28:58   yes Daddy face the box no its you know [TS]

00:29:02   they think about boxes like well once [TS]

00:29:04   the box get there and it gets opened its [TS]

00:29:06   going right in the recycling it's like [TS]

00:29:07   not necessarily a hoe not my house on [TS]

00:29:09   right now we'll talk about boxes right [TS]

00:29:11   you got a plan so you know i'm just [TS]

00:29:13   taking the stick them off the box and [TS]

00:29:15   now you're like a child just hearing [TS]

00:29:16   into a box of Lucky Charms that's just [TS]

00:29:18   sad [TS]

00:29:18   I'm not going to be able to open the box [TS]

00:29:20   until I get this stick them off and uh [TS]

00:29:22   huh [TS]

00:29:23   alright i can open it what John is it is [TS]

00:29:25   it this is our dice think what is it [TS]

00:29:28   well I haven't opened it yet okay all [TS]

00:29:30   right here we go [TS]

00:29:31   opening the box it's really packaged in [TS]

00:29:37   a way that indicates someone in a [TS]

00:29:39   warehouse really cared whose paper there [TS]

00:29:43   we go [TS]

00:29:44   unwrapping it it is a can a little can [TS]

00:29:48   that seems like it would be a seems like [TS]

00:29:51   the kind of kin that you would use to [TS]

00:29:54   wax your cross-country skis is aerosol [TS]

00:29:57   manual it's manual ok it's like yeah [TS]

00:30:00   it's a manual can old-fashioned [TS]

00:30:02   cross-country ski wax and it's called [TS]

00:30:04   the zenith Tibet almond stick and eat [TS]

00:30:10   and it's and then the label says it's [TS]

00:30:12   all so new it's not used [TS]

00:30:14   that's nice all I've seen this stuff [TS]

00:30:16   oh yeah uses on tables yeah yeah yeahs [TS]

00:30:19   zenith Tibet almond stick wipeout [TS]

00:30:22   furniture and flooring quick as a wink [TS]

00:30:24   quick as a wink and and he is saying it [TS]

00:30:27   refreshes guitar strings [TS]

00:30:29   I don't know I putting stuff on guitar [TS]

00:30:31   strings depression and I don't know [TS]

00:30:33   inside the little can is a further piece [TS]

00:30:37   of rapper [TS]

00:30:39   oh wow strong smelling it has a very [TS]

00:30:42   citrusy smell this smell more like [TS]

00:30:43   almonds or Tibet I've never been to [TS]

00:30:47   Tibet okay it smells like it would work [TS]

00:30:50   also as a breath freshener [TS]

00:30:52   yeah well thank you Dimitri for that [TS]

00:30:55   wonderful gift i will try to put the [TS]

00:30:57   floor wax on my guitar and see else all [TS]

00:30:59   experiment with a with a guitar I don't [TS]

00:31:02   care about that much huh [TS]

00:31:04   and if it works if it likes licks up my [TS]

00:31:06   strings and refreshes them i will be [TS]

00:31:09   very grateful to you [TS]

00:31:10   yeah thanks to meet you this would [TS]

00:31:11   really be a good segment for your show [TS]

00:31:13   with Dan haha we are had our annual go [TS]

00:31:18   ahead [TS]

00:31:19   no I was I've been wondering lately how [TS]

00:31:21   come we're not on more like best podcast [TS]

00:31:24   list is keep seeing these things best [TS]

00:31:27   pilot at the 50 best podcast i don't i [TS]

00:31:29   don't strictly want to be and yet i'm a [TS]

00:31:32   little surprised that we're not because [TS]

00:31:33   we were very important program [TS]

00:31:35   alright and who what the hell are all [TS]

00:31:36   these other programs we want I don't [TS]

00:31:39   want a bunch of johnny-come-lately [TS]

00:31:40   also-rans just showing up because they [TS]

00:31:42   thought on a website i think the people [TS]

00:31:44   the people who need to find this will [TS]

00:31:45   find is provided that you people are [TS]

00:31:47   telling them repair we had a meeting [TS]

00:31:50   where listeners yeah it's always our [TS]

00:31:52   everything always comes back to [TS]

00:31:53   listeners and so we had our annual [TS]

00:31:56   carnival this weekend I just the [TS]

00:31:58   phenomenon toss out and see if I'm alone [TS]

00:32:00   in this family who's we [TS]

00:32:02   we are the school my wife is the [TS]

00:32:03   co-chair of the carnival she put an [TS]

00:32:05   extraordinary amount of work into having [TS]

00:32:07   a carnival they raised a lot of money [TS]

00:32:08   was really great so I was on a cleanup [TS]

00:32:10   crew and part of my job was breaking [TS]

00:32:13   down boxes like people bring stuff in a [TS]

00:32:15   box yeah like donations baked goods [TS]

00:32:17   whatnot and then one of my Jobs was to [TS]

00:32:19   break down the boxes and put them in [TS]

00:32:21   recycling which i happen to love and I [TS]

00:32:22   find very meditative but i also use it [TS]

00:32:25   at home it's always an opportunity for [TS]

00:32:27   me to look for what i will call a good [TS]

00:32:29   box [TS]

00:32:29   oh yes you feeling about good boxes oh I [TS]

00:32:32   have a whole what do you think I keep [TS]

00:32:34   this office for yeah it's just for [TS]

00:32:36   Ferrand boxes that I'm like that's a [TS]

00:32:38   good box [TS]

00:32:39   I nest them I I very meditative it's [TS]

00:32:41   almost like Buddhism I meditatively will [TS]

00:32:43   nest them like Russian dolls to get a [TS]

00:32:45   good box inside of a larger good box [TS]

00:32:47   because i love a good box sometimes you [TS]

00:32:49   come across a regular amazon boxing [TS]

00:32:51   that's pretty box [TS]

00:32:52   yeah sometimes maybe something came from [TS]

00:32:53   costco maybe something's gotta wax [TS]

00:32:55   coating on it but something that you [TS]

00:32:57   could actually put like 250 wet swimsuit [TS]

00:32:59   sin and it wouldn't think oh that's a [TS]

00:33:01   good that's a good box you know who does [TS]

00:33:03   not love good boxes my wife see because [TS]

00:33:07   I'm a collector of good box they don't [TS]

00:33:08   understand I don't know what there's [TS]

00:33:11   times when I think it might be a guy [TS]

00:33:13   thing i'm not sure and I don't want to [TS]

00:33:14   stipulate that but you you get that [TS]

00:33:17   feeling I got some really good boxes [TS]

00:33:18   right here I keep the sum I breaking [TS]

00:33:20   down and take him outside but then I [TS]

00:33:22   like a good box because there's going to [TS]

00:33:24   be a time when you need a good box and [TS]

00:33:26   if you can use anything more than once I [TS]

00:33:28   think you're on the right side of [TS]

00:33:28   history [TS]

00:33:29   I get into this argument all the time [TS]

00:33:30   primarily with my mother and other [TS]

00:33:33   people that I share a living space with [TS]

00:33:35   her like can we get some of these boxes [TS]

00:33:38   out of here [TS]

00:33:39   they say it so simply like it's just [TS]

00:33:41   like oh hey let's go to the refrigerator [TS]

00:33:44   and sink we threw out half your produce [TS]

00:33:45   it like like this one is for its a [TS]

00:33:47   refrigerator we both agree right that [TS]

00:33:49   there are too many boxes in here so we [TS]

00:33:51   both agreed that it's time to get rid of [TS]

00:33:52   some of these and I'm like wait a minute [TS]

00:33:54   no no these aren't these are the so [TS]

00:33:57   clearly those are the boxes that are [TS]

00:33:59   headed out to the recycling these are [TS]

00:34:02   the boxes that are organized and hence [TS]

00:34:06   no they aren't [TS]

00:34:08   we're not going to get some of these [TS]

00:34:10   boxes out of here these are employees [TS]

00:34:12   are important boxes they're like what is [TS]

00:34:14   anything in them [TS]

00:34:15   not yet is my god what a question what [TS]

00:34:17   good what good are they [TS]

00:34:19   what good are they that's like only [TS]

00:34:21   keeping the pretty hundred-dollar bills [TS]

00:34:22   haha yes it's like you know the thing is [TS]

00:34:25   like yes I mean I'm not ed they don't [TS]

00:34:27   keep every box like that's not tenable [TS]

00:34:29   like if something if it's like a generic [TS]

00:34:31   oddly shaped box of electronics came and [TS]

00:34:33   I'm more than happy to take that out to [TS]

00:34:35   the curb right to the curb right to the [TS]

00:34:37   car but if you got it you got it talk [TS]

00:34:39   about head [TS]

00:34:39   p hi gage box that really flaps close [TS]

00:34:43   right up you know a nice square box [TS]

00:34:45   particularly a box that can hold an 11 x [TS]

00:34:47   17 piece of paper gosh there's so many [TS]

00:34:50   things you could do with that now write [TS]

00:34:52   a nice big legal sized piece of paper [TS]

00:34:55   box but also i have a so I also will [TS]

00:34:58   pull over to the side of the road [TS]

00:35:00   anytime I see a like an old road case [TS]

00:35:04   like a plywood road case that was maybe [TS]

00:35:07   used to carry a surveying implement man [TS]

00:35:11   or some kind of you know a lot of them [TS]

00:35:13   will have shaped foam inside where there [TS]

00:35:16   was a telescope or there was some kind [TS]

00:35:20   of like router and that's that's [TS]

00:35:22   practically equipment it's fucking [TS]

00:35:25   equipment and these boxes are a lot of [TS]

00:35:27   them really old they have a tremendous [TS]

00:35:29   like I i hate to use the word patina I [TS]

00:35:32   don't normally use that in in in the [TS]

00:35:35   with regard to boxes [TS]

00:35:37   yeah well I regard to anything i'm going [TS]

00:35:39   to talk about somethings patina come on [TS]

00:35:41   yeah but but they are beautifully Warren [TS]

00:35:45   and they have heavy great gauge latches [TS]

00:35:47   and I'll take those home I'll across [TS]

00:35:49   three lanes of traffic to pick one of [TS]

00:35:51   those up off the street that's all i can [TS]

00:35:52   do although gonna take my kid up from [TS]

00:35:54   school every day and you know you see a [TS]

00:35:55   lot of trash on the red it's it's all I [TS]

00:35:57   can do not to go pick that up because i [TS]

00:36:00   know i'm gonna bring it home and then [TS]

00:36:01   i'm going to get grief about that [TS]

00:36:03   yeah and then it's like what is that [TS]

00:36:04   piece of junk and it's a piece of junk [TS]

00:36:06   what what happens if we need to carry a [TS]

00:36:09   like a surveillance implement you know [TS]

00:36:13   what I i think part of it is you know I [TS]

00:36:15   i did I once sat down as I often do in [TS]

00:36:17   Microsoft Excel to try and figure out [TS]

00:36:19   how many times I moved over a certain [TS]

00:36:21   period of time I just gotta I just had [TS]

00:36:23   to pick a mental picture of you sitting [TS]

00:36:24   down within Microsoft Excel it was so [TS]

00:36:28   beautiful it was that it was just like [TS]

00:36:30   the bread that scene intron where you [TS]

00:36:32   just can't [TS]

00:36:33   yeah and all the sudden I love Microsoft [TS]

00:36:36   Excel i find it very very absorbing but [TS]

00:36:40   i will try to figure out how many times [TS]

00:36:41   I move because you are all trying to get [TS]

00:36:42   at is that I think that part of the [TS]

00:36:44   impetus for this is if you move enough [TS]

00:36:47   you learn some things and like if you're [TS]

00:36:50   like in college it's 11 a lot of books [TS]

00:36:52   you know what you learned a lot of books [TS]

00:36:54   you don't put you don't get a giant box [TS]

00:36:56   of books there's a certain size i'm [TS]

00:36:58   gonna say roughly the size of milk crate [TS]

00:37:00   that's really good for for carrying [TS]

00:37:02   books around sushi Percy small yes [TS]

00:37:04   presents an excusable that's right so if [TS]

00:37:08   you put a bit put too many boxes if you [TS]

00:37:10   have a big box and you put too many [TS]

00:37:12   books in it you can't carry the box know [TS]

00:37:13   people don't understand this you haven't [TS]

00:37:14   moved a lot so I think in the back of my [TS]

00:37:16   mind corner of my eye I am always [TS]

00:37:17   looking out I don't intend to moving i'm [TS]

00:37:19   going to move but at the same time I [TS]

00:37:21   still I can't stop saying it like it's [TS]

00:37:22   it's you know it's just it's like seeing [TS]

00:37:24   an attractive person or a quarter like [TS]

00:37:26   you can't pick it up you know you're [TS]

00:37:28   looking for a book box yeah for me I [TS]

00:37:31   have a lot of as you know mementos [TS]

00:37:35   uh-huh and I need memento boxes boxes [TS]

00:37:38   that are just the right size for like [TS]

00:37:40   photographs and little notes that people [TS]

00:37:44   have left me and Saudi Arabian currency [TS]

00:37:46   and Czechoslovakia and stamps and so the [TS]

00:37:50   Box doesn't have to be big but it does [TS]

00:37:52   have to be pleasing yeah you don't want [TS]

00:37:54   to put your mementos in a box that isn't [TS]

00:37:56   pleased him [TS]

00:37:57   yeah i totally agree and i bought boxes [TS]

00:38:00   like I there are times when I think well [TS]

00:38:01   I gotta get my stuff put together so get [TS]

00:38:03   a lot of these where they called bankers [TS]

00:38:05   boxes [TS]

00:38:06   tell me about a banker's box now you [TS]

00:38:08   know it's cheating [TS]

00:38:10   you know it's like buying bitcoins that [TS]

00:38:11   mining it like algo SE amazon send me [TS]

00:38:14   like a multipack of these folded up [TS]

00:38:16   boxes you know bankers box when you see [TS]

00:38:18   it like when somebody gets fired the [TS]

00:38:19   security guard walks amount to carry [TS]

00:38:20   that box with the handles [TS]

00:38:21   oh yeah yeah it comes with a nice lid [TS]

00:38:23   it's real nice and i found some of these [TS]

00:38:27   recently but they were smaller you can [TS]

00:38:30   get them in different sizes there that's [TS]

00:38:32   a real good sized box for all kinds of [TS]

00:38:34   boxing but i would prefer and say what's [TS]

00:38:36   nice about it as with books it's nice to [TS]

00:38:38   have boxes of the same size when you're [TS]

00:38:40   moving that are labeled clearly IC IC [TS]

00:38:42   but but I don't know man I think it's an [TS]

00:38:45   affliction [TS]

00:38:46   well here's this labeling that you just [TS]

00:38:48   said here's the thing that we're my mom [TS]

00:38:51   and I differ my mom will write in black [TS]

00:38:55   marker indelible ink marker right on the [TS]

00:38:58   surface of a thing she will write what [TS]

00:39:01   she's using the thing to store right [TS]

00:39:04   shield but but directly [TS]

00:39:06   on the box directly on the box all right [TS]

00:39:07   on the box like yeah mementos and [TS]

00:39:12   sometimes she'll buy bags show you buy [TS]

00:39:14   things at the thrift store there like a [TS]

00:39:16   makeup bag or pencil bag small bags and [TS]

00:39:20   she'll write in indelible marker right [TS]

00:39:23   on the bag [TS]

00:39:24   oh that makes me uncomfortable pens oh [TS]

00:39:27   no permanent marker [TS]

00:39:28   yeah or drill bits right on the outside [TS]

00:39:32   of a of a bag that had formerly housed [TS]

00:39:35   some mac cosmetics and it drives me to [TS]

00:39:39   distraction [TS]

00:39:41   ya know right right on the thing because [TS]

00:39:44   then i cannot repurpose it i cannot [TS]

00:39:46   repurpose the thing if it and you know [TS]

00:39:48   and I'm sure their listeners that are [TS]

00:39:50   like just put up just put a label / just [TS]

00:39:52   put a sticker over it but no no you [TS]

00:39:55   always know it's there [TS]

00:39:56   you'll always know underneath the [TS]

00:39:57   sticker where you wrote kitchen [TS]

00:39:59   implements there is indelible marker [TS]

00:40:01   right on the box that says bags right my [TS]

00:40:05   mom used the box to hold bags you're [TS]

00:40:08   like a random junk [TS]

00:40:10   Yeah right and I'm always know it's [TS]

00:40:12   there and it's just like get that box [TS]

00:40:13   out of my house because it's it's too [TS]

00:40:15   filed that's the filed with permanent [TS]

00:40:18   marker [TS]

00:40:19   I cannot abide it I got a lot of [TS]

00:40:22   feelings about boxes and bags before I [TS]

00:40:25   know I know you do [TS]

00:40:26   did you know what did you know I have [TS]

00:40:28   the have the sort of hemp shopping bag [TS]

00:40:31   thing [TS]

00:40:33   what are those called the shopping bags [TS]

00:40:37   yeah okay the hemp shopping bags i have [TS]

00:40:39   one of those from every South by [TS]

00:40:41   Southwest never attended because they [TS]

00:40:42   were swag bags and I use them as my like [TS]

00:40:46   hippie go to the grocery store bags but [TS]

00:40:49   you know I start to feel like some of [TS]

00:40:51   those early you know the South by [TS]

00:40:53   Southwest 1999 I don't want to use that [TS]

00:40:55   anymore at the death trader joes I want [TS]

00:40:57   to keep that somewhere but it's not like [TS]

00:40:59   you're gonna frame it [TS]

00:41:00   yeah what do you do you have that then [TS]

00:41:02   you have to have a box where you keep [TS]

00:41:03   your special bags well i would i would [TS]

00:41:05   put those in the superclass of what i [TS]

00:41:07   call floppy bags really nice thing about [TS]

00:41:09   flat bags you can put a bunch of fucking [TS]

00:41:11   bags in another bag that's true [TS]

00:41:13   what kind of a meta back so I do that a [TS]

00:41:15   lot so when we get a lot of bags of one [TS]

00:41:17   kind again you know it [TS]

00:41:18   let's call it metal storage metal [TS]

00:41:20   storage so you got stuff you a story [TS]

00:41:22   that's what I nest my boxes floppy bags [TS]

00:41:24   i try to have them in something I don't [TS]

00:41:26   want them up I'm not a monster but I [TS]

00:41:28   like fold them in some kind of a [TS]

00:41:29   sensible way you know you should always [TS]

00:41:31   be able to see which bags which you [TS]

00:41:33   should be able to know like if I grab [TS]

00:41:35   this much i'm getting three of these it [TS]

00:41:36   should be should be sensible [TS]

00:41:38   that's not like a candy dish yeah I it [TS]

00:41:40   makes me feel so much better to know [TS]

00:41:42   that someone else shares this particular [TS]

00:41:45   sort of this particular wisdom man and I [TS]

00:41:51   you know it's just it's nice it's nice [TS]

00:41:52   to know that it's there [TS]

00:41:54   you know what though I think also this [TS]

00:41:55   but this might be the proof that I'm [TS]

00:41:57   crazy but I think it also leaves this [TS]

00:41:59   bigger thing of mine which is about a [TS]

00:42:01   certain kind of preparation and i just [TS]

00:42:02   talked about travel here but like I'm [TS]

00:42:04   talking about thinking through what's [TS]

00:42:06   gonna happen right [TS]

00:42:08   you always bring a jacket do you have to [TS]

00:42:10   go anywhere else do you have to pick [TS]

00:42:11   anything up along the way what will you [TS]

00:42:13   have to do what's your incumbrance going [TS]

00:42:14   to be at this point in the campaign is [TS]

00:42:16   we got to think about all that stuff and [TS]

00:42:18   is honestly I think I'm the only one [TS]

00:42:19   thinking about that this is why I'm this [TS]

00:42:21   is why I don't like high heels [TS]

00:42:23   yeah somebody set of the day high heels [TS]

00:42:25   and I was like I don't know [TS]

00:42:27   no high heels find another way because [TS]

00:42:30   what if we have to climb offense [TS]

00:42:31   yep and you don't you don't you never [TS]

00:42:33   you never go to a fancy ball thinking [TS]

00:42:35   later on tonight we're gonna have to [TS]

00:42:36   climb offense but you know go to fancy [TS]

00:42:39   balls something happened something else [TS]

00:42:40   happens suddenly you're being chased up [TS]

00:42:42   an alibi Rottweilers yeah what are you [TS]

00:42:45   gonna do all your high heels clack clack [TS]

00:42:46   clack clack too bad your Rottweiler food [TS]

00:42:49   they the area if they are tactical gear [TS]

00:42:53   it it's the wrong kind of tactic going [TS]

00:42:54   to get chased by a fucking Rottweilers [TS]

00:42:56   right that's right Robbie think it'd be [TS]

00:42:57   nice to have a little pointy though [TS]

00:42:58   forget your feet into the fence [TS]

00:43:00   let's let's go it's called this chased [TS]

00:43:02   chased by Rottweilers across a [TS]

00:43:03   drawbridge haha man yeah you're doing [TS]

00:43:07   you're doing some mental calculus [TS]

00:43:09   yeah good you know the Rottweilers are [TS]

00:43:12   not going to be happy on the drawbridge [TS]

00:43:14   eat but your they are not going to have [TS]

00:43:17   to go all the way across you know the [TS]

00:43:18   Rottweilers are wearing high heels and [TS]

00:43:22   they're not going to go across the [TS]

00:43:23   drawbridge because you and your high [TS]

00:43:25   heels are going to be like one foot into [TS]

00:43:27   the drawbridge and stuck [TS]

00:43:29   God and you know a lot of drawbridges [TS]

00:43:31   have a grating well that's what I'm [TS]

00:43:33   talking about [TS]

00:43:33   yeah that was grading you're not going [TS]

00:43:35   to get your training you're not gonna [TS]

00:43:36   get across there in a fucking said hi [TS]

00:43:38   you and I want to share when I walked [TS]

00:43:41   out of the house today it's cold here in [TS]

00:43:44   Seattle that right the temperature has [TS]

00:43:45   plunged and I'm am walking on the house [TS]

00:43:50   i'm headed to my meeting with Merlin [TS]

00:43:53   Mann at my office on Seattle boulevard [TS]

00:43:56   yep 1 2 3 4 5 & and I'm not that has [TS]

00:44:00   three office 322 in case you're keeping [TS]

00:44:01   track think it's 33 2332 um which one [TS]

00:44:05   which one is that I don't want to [TS]

00:44:06   confuse people you have 332 sorry [TS]

00:44:08   walking on the house I look at my basket [TS]

00:44:11   of hats and I feel like it's a little [TS]

00:44:15   early in the season even though it's [TS]

00:44:17   cold little early in the season to bust [TS]

00:44:19   out of ski hat and I'd cycled through a [TS]

00:44:23   lot of my like medium temperature hats [TS]

00:44:26   and I just roof [TS]

00:44:29   I just reflexively I was feeling bold or [TS]

00:44:32   something i reached over to my display [TS]

00:44:36   let's call it a Christmas tree of [TS]

00:44:39   vintage hats men's hats Tom Waits hats [TS]

00:44:44   or and these are hats that I've [TS]

00:44:48   collected over time but I very seldom [TS]

00:44:50   wear because I just don't see myself as [TS]

00:44:53   a guy who goes out into the world in a [TS]

00:44:55   Tom Waits tab [TS]

00:44:57   yeah this is the tension i love to I [TS]

00:45:00   love them I love to have them they're [TS]

00:45:02   beautiful things but I just can't I just [TS]

00:45:06   can't see myself as like walking around [TS]

00:45:09   in up in like a funky old hat very much [TS]

00:45:13   I mean I've done it I've done in a [TS]

00:45:14   certain amount but it's just it's a [TS]

00:45:16   bridge too far you I feel like you've [TS]

00:45:19   described as well in the past with a [TS]

00:45:21   couple different threads in the past [TS]

00:45:23   one of them is that every day when you [TS]

00:45:24   get up there is a question of many [TS]

00:45:26   questions you ask yourself what is the [TS]

00:45:28   uniform of the day is a question that [TS]

00:45:30   you asked okay that's one part that's [TS]

00:45:32   130 that is terrific question to ask on [TS]

00:45:34   a lot of levels but then if i may say [TS]

00:45:37   I think then the other question the [TS]

00:45:39   answer you're waiting for is witch hat [TS]

00:45:41   will speak to me and tell me what the [TS]

00:45:43   uniform of the day is and if they don't [TS]

00:45:44   speak it's like it's like oh no Thomas [TS]

00:45:46   Church just as long as it takes you just [TS]

00:45:48   wait till somebody at the spirit moves [TS]

00:45:49   them maybe somebody that has not gonna [TS]

00:45:50   talk [TS]

00:45:51   that's absolutely right like for [TS]

00:45:52   instance if you are wearing an overcoat [TS]

00:45:54   i'm not talking about a jacket talk [TS]

00:45:57   about an overcoat you can't wear a ski [TS]

00:45:59   hat the proportions are not right it's [TS]

00:46:02   just not right [TS]

00:46:03   make sure pinheaded you wear a ski hat [TS]

00:46:05   with a jacket but this morning so this [TS]

00:46:08   is and you're right you're absolutely [TS]

00:46:09   right looking back in my thought process [TS]

00:46:12   what's the uniform of the day I i put on [TS]

00:46:15   a sweater and then I was like I want to [TS]

00:46:17   go a little bit i'm going to go a little [TS]

00:46:19   bit higher than a jacket and I put on an [TS]

00:46:21   overcoat and the overcoat was the one [TS]

00:46:24   that picked the Hat right and I wasn't [TS]

00:46:27   aware of that i was walking around the [TS]

00:46:28   house in an overcoat and I went for my [TS]

00:46:31   basket of hats and the overcoat said hey [TS]

00:46:34   pal what the plucky doing and just [TS]

00:46:38   guided me over to the christmas tree of [TS]

00:46:40   fedoras the christmas tree of Stanton's [TS]

00:46:43   Stetsons stack I today feels like a [TS]

00:46:46   Homburg it's 43 degrees and rainy [TS]

00:46:48   homburg well so this is a wide brim [TS]

00:46:50   steps and prob [TS]

00:46:53   it's an imperial Stetson and it is and [TS]

00:46:56   and it was formerly owned by HK robins [TS]

00:46:59   and it was sold this is the wonderful [TS]

00:47:03   thing it was sold at the Bernie at the [TS]

00:47:06   Bernie cuts hat store at 310 union [TS]

00:47:09   street seattle so the Hat is original to [TS]

00:47:11   Seattle and Bernie nuts is still in [TS]

00:47:14   business here last haberdasher in [TS]

00:47:16   downtown but this hat is from 1930 Wow [TS]

00:47:22   and it's very very worn but but well [TS]

00:47:26   well one and it's it's a wide brim but [TS]

00:47:30   the brims turned up all the way around [TS]

00:47:31   right there it's not like down it's not [TS]

00:47:33   it's not a come up and see me sometime [TS]

00:47:37   sweetheart [TS]

00:47:39   Pat it's more like Jim Norton had it's [TS]

00:47:42   like hey yeah yeah that's that's that's [TS]

00:47:45   a good look but it's got a pretty broad [TS]

00:47:46   brim specially cut in the front right [TS]

00:47:48   yeah well all around the [TS]

00:47:50   rim is what two-and-a-half three inches [TS]

00:47:53   even yeah and it's it's like it's green [TS]

00:47:57   it's kind of khaki green and it has a [TS]

00:48:01   very wide ribbon around the brim that [TS]

00:48:04   was once pink and has now darkened to [TS]

00:48:08   like dusty rose and the whole hat is [TS]

00:48:11   dusty sort of dusty like the tom petty [TS]

00:48:14   video I don't come around here no more [TS]

00:48:18   well know the one where they ride their [TS]

00:48:20   motorcycles to the video game parlor in [TS]

00:48:21   the desert in a post-apocalyptic [TS]

00:48:22   landscape which one is that it's sort of [TS]

00:48:29   dusty like that like it's stylish but [TS]

00:48:32   understated well so I so I walk out of [TS]

00:48:34   the house I'm sorry I that would be you [TS]

00:48:35   got lucky you got lucky babe a great [TS]

00:48:39   video very you know very much ahead of [TS]

00:48:42   its time and so I walk out and i'm [TS]

00:48:46   wearing an overcoat and this and this [TS]

00:48:48   happen it's just like it's been crushed [TS]

00:48:51   and mushed over the years and it just [TS]

00:48:53   has so much character and I felt a [TS]

00:48:56   little bit like do I have this much [TS]

00:48:57   character [TS]

00:48:58   yep there's a lot of character here and [TS]

00:49:01   but you know I caught my reflection in a [TS]

00:49:05   piece of plate glass window is walking [TS]

00:49:07   along and I'm like I mean yeah I this is [TS]

00:49:11   good i go this way I'm a middle-aged guy [TS]

00:49:13   now I could start wearing that this kind [TS]

00:49:15   of hat [TS]

00:49:16   nobody would blink an eye uh-huh but [TS]

00:49:18   somewhere inside myself I would be like [TS]

00:49:21   wow this is pretty heavy this feels like [TS]

00:49:24   something I should if I was going to do [TS]

00:49:26   this now i should have been doing this [TS]

00:49:27   all along I don't know it's hard to [TS]

00:49:30   inhabit a hat but you want it you want [TS]

00:49:32   it you got it there with you now I got [TS]

00:49:34   here i'm looking at i'm so proud of it i [TS]

00:49:36   love the Hat is a thing is photos [TS]

00:49:38   beautiful do you think you did the right [TS]

00:49:39   thing I'm you know what I'm gonna walk [TS]

00:49:41   out of here after after we get done with [TS]

00:49:43   our program going to walk around the [TS]

00:49:44   town in this overcoat and hat i'm going [TS]

00:49:46   to see what happens [TS]

00:49:47   how long's the overcoat the overcoat [TS]

00:49:50   itself is a beautiful thing it's a [TS]

00:49:52   double-breasted overcoat first of all [TS]

00:49:54   it's also from the forties itself a [TS]

00:49:58   retired pins right it's a peak lapel [TS]

00:50:00   double-breasted herringbone [TS]

00:50:03   overcoat but it's blue a dark blue and [TS]

00:50:08   uh it's a dynamite overcoat the whole [TS]

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00:50:15   to get our low [TS]

00:50:17   hot front i'm inside this spacesuit and [TS]

00:50:22   I'm like do I look like a swing dancer [TS]

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00:52:35   Roderick on the line that's what I want [TS]

00:52:37   to look like not bound pattern and I'm [TS]

00:52:41   gonna have bad that and he's Jessica [TS]

00:52:44   Rabbit [TS]

00:52:45   no that's not what i want i want to look [TS]

00:52:48   like a fucking I want to look like a [TS]

00:52:49   detective lost in time [TS]

00:52:52   mm-hmm you know I want to look like [TS]

00:52:54   somebody that the years are irrelevant [TS]

00:52:57   to write some timeless timeless thank [TS]

00:53:00   you and and so I mean you know I don't [TS]

00:53:05   want to i want to get out there and and [TS]

00:53:08   feel like somebody in the Brian Setzer [TS]

00:53:09   video so so I don't know I you know the [TS]

00:53:13   jury's out right [TS]

00:53:15   you need to be comfortable in your own [TS]

00:53:16   herringbone I think we can all agree on [TS]

00:53:17   that at first for sure but at the same [TS]

00:53:19   time I you know I look at your selfies [TS]

00:53:21   and you're getting very stately you I [TS]

00:53:24   could totally see you in that particular [TS]

00:53:25   uniform of the day I don't think it's [TS]

00:53:27   weird it would be weird and creepy if [TS]

00:53:30   like a java programmers 20 dress like [TS]

00:53:32   that you're right you're right but I you [TS]

00:53:33   know you know you you do you you know [TS]

00:53:37   what's right for you [TS]

00:53:38   the thing is a java programmer in his [TS]

00:53:40   twenties would be buying all this stuff [TS]

00:53:41   on some kind of like Australian website [TS]

00:53:44   right it wouldn't be I mean I've had [TS]

00:53:47   this for Doran he gets a box-to-box [TS]

00:53:48   delivered once a month with a thing it [TS]

00:53:50   has [TS]

00:53:51   thing right I've had this four-door for [TS]

00:53:52   25 years and I've worn it plenty of [TS]

00:53:56   times but not that many times frankly in [TS]

00:53:59   the 25 years i've owned it i probably [TS]

00:54:01   wanted 25 times it's not like it was [TS]

00:54:04   ever a regular part of my thing but I've [TS]

00:54:06   had it and I look at and i put it you [TS]

00:54:09   know what I do I put it on I wear around [TS]

00:54:10   the house and then when it's time to go [TS]

00:54:13   out of the door I I like I got stopped [TS]

00:54:15   at the door and I'm like mm maybe I [TS]

00:54:17   should there have been plenty of times [TS]

00:54:19   where I've worn it out the door and then [TS]

00:54:21   talk taking it off to get in my car and [TS]

00:54:23   throw it on the back seat of the car and [TS]

00:54:24   then it rolled around with me for a [TS]

00:54:25   couple of weeks and I never was like I [TS]

00:54:29   should I should wear the hat out out of [TS]

00:54:31   the car right uh-huh [TS]

00:54:32   anyway so here I am bold new world I but [TS]

00:54:36   somebody said to me the other day [TS]

00:54:37   whatever happened here's your your [TS]

00:54:39   hoodies used to wear hoodies all time [TS]

00:54:41   and now you're always dressed up like in [TS]

00:54:43   it in a tie my kind of that kind of [TS]

00:54:47   change gears a little bit and they and [TS]

00:54:48   they expressed they expressed the desire [TS]

00:54:51   to see some hoodies in the mix I was [TS]

00:54:55   like wow somebody out in the world wants [TS]

00:54:58   me to be a little casual sometimes and [TS]

00:55:00   and if one person says it then 10 people [TS]

00:55:03   are thinking it had a thing about you [TS]

00:55:05   it seems to me is that is the level of [TS]

00:55:07   thought and a level of commitment where [TS]

00:55:10   it isn't like you just put on the same [TS]

00:55:12   sweat pants you wore yesterday and now [TS]

00:55:13   that's casual wear it seems to me that [TS]

00:55:15   even when you're choosing sportswear or [TS]

00:55:17   if you're going to be yachting or [TS]

00:55:19   pretending the yacht whatever it is that [TS]

00:55:20   you're going to do you you put a lot of [TS]

00:55:23   care into that and deciding what casual [TS]

00:55:25   look you'll be going for [TS]

00:55:26   well you select from different pieces [TS]

00:55:28   and parts you say what is the uniform of [TS]

00:55:30   the day you asked aloud and then and [TS]

00:55:31   then the answer comes to what somebody [TS]

00:55:34   was teasing me up in a separate [TS]

00:55:37   conversation some other number of days [TS]

00:55:39   ago where they said how long did it take [TS]

00:55:41   you to put that outfit together and one [TS]

00:55:44   of the other keys to me is that you [TS]

00:55:46   should never spend more than five [TS]

00:55:48   minutes thinking about your own song [TS]

00:55:49   don't you know any precious no se wake [TS]

00:55:52   up in the morning you say what's the [TS]

00:55:53   uniform of the day and then you [TS]

00:55:54   immediately move toward it and you're [TS]

00:55:57   putting it you're you're compiling your [TS]

00:56:00   composing rather composing your [TS]

00:56:03   composing that uniform of the day [TS]

00:56:04   I as you also make your way through your [TS]

00:56:06   house making some microwave coffee [TS]

00:56:10   it's like a painting made of garments [TS]

00:56:11   right you're snacking on something and [TS]

00:56:14   you're like what's the what's the [TS]

00:56:15   you-know-what what goes over the shirts [TS]

00:56:17   what goes what is the time but your butt [TS]

00:56:20   five minutes is all you should put into [TS]

00:56:22   that pop ow and then you walk out the [TS]

00:56:26   door and you're committed to you [TS]

00:56:27   committed to what you've done you put [TS]

00:56:29   together a thing it's very impression [TS]

00:56:31   mystic and then you get you enjoying the [TS]

00:56:35   day and today at just I went that extra [TS]

00:56:38   something happened the coat pick the hat [TS]

00:56:41   and then I was on to a different thing I [TS]

00:56:43   was I'm maybe this is the with some kind [TS]

00:56:47   of turn [TS]

00:56:47   yeah i think i think it's i think it's a [TS]

00:56:50   great way to go i think having that I [TS]

00:56:51   think confidence is a nice thing to have [TS]

00:56:53   confidence in knowing that even if it's [TS]

00:56:55   not perfect you can live with your [TS]

00:56:58   decisions in a way that you're not [TS]

00:56:59   constantly looking back that to me is a [TS]

00:57:01   form of confidence doesn't mean that [TS]

00:57:02   you're always right [TS]

00:57:03   it means that you have a level of [TS]

00:57:05   commitment to say this is the thing that [TS]

00:57:06   I'm going to do it may not be perfect [TS]

00:57:08   but i'm not going to second-guess myself [TS]

00:57:09   all day can't second-guess yourself a [TS]

00:57:12   guy in a hatchet not be second-guessing [TS]

00:57:13   is absolutely not people will see that [TS]

00:57:15   you'll see that a mile away that God [TS]

00:57:17   doesn't that guy hasn't heard that he [TS]

00:57:18   doesn't think he has this quality looked [TS]

00:57:21   up I remember reading some college in [TS]

00:57:23   this is Tom one of the Tom Wolfe essays [TS]

00:57:26   his accent arrived mysteriously one day [TS]

00:57:28   in a box from London intrigued he [TS]

00:57:30   slapped into his mouth like a set of [TS]

00:57:31   teeth [TS]

00:57:32   it seemed right and that's how i feel [TS]

00:57:35   when i wear a hat that's nice what [TS]

00:57:37   Garnett and think about an overcoat to [TS]

00:57:39   is you can wear an overcoat in a in a [TS]

00:57:44   John bender way your you got an overcoat [TS]

00:57:47   fingerless gloves contender on bender [TS]

00:57:50   from from from the breakfast club [TS]

00:57:55   Oh bender sure bender yeah right you got [TS]

00:57:58   an overcoat on [TS]

00:57:59   yeah but you weren't fingerless gloves [TS]

00:58:01   and a hoodie so that's a whole different [TS]

00:58:02   we're going different directions are [TS]

00:58:04   going to put a fedora on with that it's [TS]

00:58:07   almost like a druid or got not gods but [TS]

00:58:09   i do it [TS]

00:58:10   I mean he's got the motorcycle boots [TS]

00:58:11   he's got the yeah he's he's he's in a [TS]

00:58:15   that's a different kind of overcooked [TS]

00:58:16   and then frankly a very [TS]

00:58:18   eighties overcoat uh-huh because that [TS]

00:58:20   was the same overcoat I've got here it [TS]

00:58:22   was from the forties or fifties but it [TS]

00:58:24   was being really appropriate in the [TS]

00:58:25   eighties as a like punk rock item [TS]

00:58:28   remember when you walk into a good i [TS]

00:58:29   hate to bring this up again but you [TS]

00:58:30   remember that do you remember you can [TS]

00:58:32   walk into a goodwill and as a question [TS]

00:58:33   of which overcoat that fit you and from [TS]

00:58:37   the fifties you're going to spend four [TS]

00:58:39   to six dollars on [TS]

00:58:40   oh do I remember maybe ten bucks but I [TS]

00:58:42   mean either i just remember I didn't [TS]

00:58:44   have a lot of dough at the time that I [TS]

00:58:46   was going to three stores which is a [TS]

00:58:47   nice combination but i would go in there [TS]

00:58:49   and I buy a lot of shirts that I wear [TS]

00:58:50   punk rock t-shirt and then some kind of [TS]

00:58:52   a slightly ironic vintage shirt over it [TS]

00:58:54   and this is me in 1986 and i rarely paid [TS]

00:58:57   more than two dollars for sure but I [TS]

00:58:58   think what's happening to me now at age [TS]

00:59:00   47 which let that reverberate for a [TS]

00:59:05   minute and 10 th i'll be in 10 days I'll [TS]

00:59:07   be 49 49 and just listen to that coo 47 [TS]

00:59:12   powerbomb what is that [TS]

00:59:15   47 49 what kind of ages are these those [TS]

00:59:18   are ages approximating 50 which is some [TS]

00:59:21   kind of thing I never thought I would [TS]

00:59:23   see like Archie Bunker aged right we're [TS]

00:59:26   getting there at any other time in [TS]

00:59:28   history we would be fully vested as men [TS]

00:59:33   trending two old men any other age [TS]

00:59:37   revealed that right we would be sitting [TS]

00:59:39   we would be sitting on a on a ragged [TS]

00:59:41   couch with one hand down the front of [TS]

00:59:43   our pants and upset a cigar and we be [TS]

00:59:47   yelling at somebody [TS]

00:59:48   yeah but here we are not doing that [TS]

00:59:52   anyway I think what's happening to me is [TS]

00:59:54   that all through the eighties I was [TS]

00:59:55   buying those those john f kennedy suits [TS]

00:59:58   at thrift stores [TS]

00:59:58   at thrift stores [TS]

01:00:00   for two dollars and then I don't know [TS]

01:00:02   what to do with them and put them in the [TS]

01:00:04   closet and because I never throw [TS]

01:00:05   anything away [TS]

01:00:06   I got to be 47 years old I opened opened [TS]

01:00:09   this like old cedar chest and I had 25 [TS]

01:00:14   Kennedy suits in there and I things I [TS]

01:00:18   had all these fedoras that I've been [TS]

01:00:19   collecting at thrift stores my whole [TS]

01:00:21   life collecting them as just like oh [TS]

01:00:24   that's a beautiful old thing it's only [TS]

01:00:28   two dollars i'll buy it and then but i'm [TS]

01:00:30   actually walking around town in hoodies [TS]

01:00:33   so i put in a cedar chest and then when [TS]

01:00:37   i move i carry the cedar chest from [TS]

01:00:39   place to place and it's like a [TS]

01:00:40   sarcophagus for filled with the filled [TS]

01:00:43   with the like garment history of the [TS]

01:00:45   united states i got to be in my mid [TS]

01:00:48   forties and I was like I i can still [TS]

01:00:49   wear all these clothes that i bought in [TS]

01:00:51   high school and the same size [TS]

01:00:52   yeah and so I started wearing them I you [TS]

01:00:55   know I started wearing this stuff that [TS]

01:00:57   that I'd that I've been slapping and and [TS]

01:01:02   so I think part of the fun of it is that [TS]

01:01:05   these garments even though they're very [TS]

01:01:07   old and predated me they've also been [TS]

01:01:09   with me for years [TS]

01:01:10   they're double old their double old [TS]

01:01:12   that's right I've been trying these [TS]

01:01:14   things on and walking around my own [TS]

01:01:16   house and going like isn't this a cool [TS]

01:01:17   thing and then taking it off and putting [TS]

01:01:19   on a hoodie and walking out of the house [TS]

01:01:22   and I finally was like I'm just gonna [TS]

01:01:23   walk out of the house in these things [TS]

01:01:24   and then all of a sudden I was mr. fancy [TS]

01:01:27   mm and it's it's pretty fun [TS]

01:01:30   yeah yeah I i hope you find i hope you [TS]

01:01:33   come to find more comfort with your [TS]

01:01:35   habits you should you should be [TS]

01:01:37   comfortable with you with yourself [TS]

01:01:39   I'm I you know clearly i am but I just [TS]

01:01:42   but I'm but I'm also the problem is [TS]

01:01:44   Merlin that thinking is not our friend [TS]

01:01:46   I've been trying to ask you not to think [TS]

01:01:48   for a while now thinking is a bad thing [TS]

01:01:50   thank you never helped anybody got it [TS]

01:01:52   just takes up all the it just burns all [TS]

01:01:54   the fuel and it produces nothing but [TS]

01:01:56   steam [TS]

01:01:57   ya know people one of the big problems [TS]

01:02:00   of thinking is people rarely do thinking [TS]

01:02:02   at the time it would be most useful [TS]

01:02:03   mm no I mean honestly I mean you know [TS]

01:02:06   people like still thinking about it [TS]

01:02:08   well you know thinking about stuff is [TS]

01:02:09   useful a long time ago like once [TS]

01:02:11   something is already thinking about [TS]

01:02:13   audit is it could be it's better than [TS]

01:02:14   not thinking about it but really a lot [TS]

01:02:16   of a lot of thinking that would have led [TS]

01:02:18   into different decisions would have been [TS]

01:02:19   better a while back [TS]

01:02:20   that's right but in this case it's like [TS]

01:02:21   aging wine or something it's like in [TS]

01:02:23   this case you've got these things that [TS]

01:02:24   just it's just not ready yet [TS]

01:02:26   the match is not there yet you have not [TS]

01:02:28   find found the meal to prepare that wine [TS]

01:02:30   with or in this case maybe the the [TS]

01:02:32   herringbone just isn't ready and now [TS]

01:02:34   it's ready it's ready taken out by [TS]

01:02:35   jumping him but i think i'm thinking [TS]

01:02:37   back to a time when I was 12 years old [TS]

01:02:39   and so in anchorage in the seventies i [TS]

01:02:45   think i've talked about this before but [TS]

01:02:47   the culture American culture arrived in [TS]

01:02:50   Anchorage with a considerable time lag [TS]

01:02:52   so in 1978 it was likes 1976 everywhere [TS]

01:03:00   else in 1980 it was still kind of 1978 i [TS]

01:03:06   like it i can add you know what I mean [TS]

01:03:07   like we were not we were not on the on [TS]

01:03:10   the bleeding edge of of culture and so [TS]

01:03:14   in 1980 ed down in Girdwood Alaska at [TS]

01:03:21   the alyeska hotel at underneath the six [TS]

01:03:25   mark bar lounge [TS]

01:03:27   there was a multi-purpose room and the [TS]

01:03:30   hotel never quite knew what to do with [TS]

01:03:32   it and they opened a a youth disco in [TS]

01:03:38   1980 and on saturday friday and saturday [TS]

01:03:42   nights it was it something something is [TS]

01:03:45   poorly translated from russian it [TS]

01:03:47   that's right under the Indian young [TS]

01:03:49   people in their companions had spent the [TS]

01:03:51   evening at the youth in school and if it [TS]

01:03:53   had you just go and I swear to you right [TS]

01:03:56   now somewhere in bratislava slovakia yep [TS]

01:03:59   there is a there is a place that says [TS]

01:04:01   you just go outside [TS]

01:04:03   that's one word oh yeah maybe maybe but [TS]

01:04:06   maybe the disco with AK but it's [TS]

01:04:09   absolutely youth disco and so this was [TS]

01:04:12   the youth disco it was 80 and and so [TS]

01:04:15   most of us work at least a little bit [TS]

01:04:16   conscious of the fact that disco also [TS]

01:04:19   sucked by now right the world had turned [TS]

01:04:22   against Disko but this was a thing no [TS]

01:04:25   one had ever thought [TS]

01:04:26   give the youth of Mount Alyeska anything [TS]

01:04:30   to do on weekend nights and I think [TS]

01:04:33   that's why most of us were getting drunk [TS]

01:04:36   and stealing our parents cars huh [TS]

01:04:38   and so somebody said hey that [TS]

01:04:40   multi-purpose room at the bottom of the [TS]

01:04:41   hotel [TS]

01:04:42   let's turn it into a youth disco and for [TS]

01:04:44   a couple of years maybe 8282 it was a [TS]

01:04:47   youth disco and it actually attracted [TS]

01:04:49   kids huh [TS]

01:04:51   and they would play disco music and we [TS]

01:04:56   would all go and we would dance and you [TS]

01:05:00   know it's a it's a ski resort it's [TS]

01:05:02   freezing cold outside you have to wear [TS]

01:05:03   your sorel zovirax to the disco and [TS]

01:05:06   quite a few of the kids like didn't have [TS]

01:05:07   a change of shoes so there were dancing [TS]

01:05:10   and Sorel 'he's but that was all we knew [TS]

01:05:14   at one night on my way to the youth [TS]

01:05:20   disco I'm I'm what 12 years old i'm i'm [TS]

01:05:26   deciding what the outfit of the day is [TS]

01:05:28   and i put on a deerstalker hat now it's [TS]

01:05:34   your stalker that number 5 hat know it [TS]

01:05:37   well yeah it's your stalker is the armor [TS]

01:05:38   for this the Sherlock Holmes me Sherlock [TS]

01:05:42   Holmes rai Ignatius Riley no no Sherlock [TS]

01:05:45   Holmes come a bit building the front [TS]

01:05:47   bill in the back woo and you're swell 12 [TS]

01:05:51   years old and Sherlock Holmes hat and an [TS]

01:05:53   ear flaps the tie on the top with a [TS]

01:05:55   ribbon for the you know and this [TS]

01:05:59   particular one was made out of tweed but [TS]

01:06:03   in addition to being made out of tweet [TS]

01:06:05   it was made out of up it was made out of [TS]

01:06:07   patches of tweed so all the patches were [TS]

01:06:11   slightly different colors and types of [TS]

01:06:13   tweet things a little ribbon ties on top [TS]

01:06:15   was a patchwork of weed in a deerstalker [TS]

01:06:18   with the yet with the ribbon the ties on [TS]

01:06:20   top and there was one of those around [TS]

01:06:22   our house because my dad was a little [TS]

01:06:25   bit of a eclectic kook and I'm sure he [TS]

01:06:27   bought it in Ireland brought it on me [TS]

01:06:31   never wore it and i'm walking out of the [TS]

01:06:33   house i'm going to use disco I wanted [TS]

01:06:35   like the outfit of the day has got a [TS]

01:06:37   it's got a crackle offer I've got my [TS]

01:06:39   I've got my moon boots on right that [TS]

01:06:42   some of us weren't surrounds a lot of us [TS]

01:06:43   were moon boots and I was in Boots got [TS]

01:06:46   my moon boots on I put on the I put on [TS]

01:06:49   the deerstalker and I head into the [TS]

01:06:51   youth disco I'm standing there and and I [TS]

01:06:57   realized that your stalker is not is not [TS]

01:06:59   very disco right it's not well look too [TS]

01:07:05   eclectic the moon the moon boots i could [TS]

01:07:07   own but the Juris Doctor just isn't it's [TS]

01:07:11   not saying disco to anybody but even at [TS]

01:07:14   that age I felt like look you walked [TS]

01:07:16   into this disco in a function gears [TS]

01:07:18   darker and you're gonna walk out of this [TS]

01:07:19   just going into your stalker you're not [TS]

01:07:23   you're not there's nowhere to put it [TS]

01:07:25   you're not going to take it off and [TS]

01:07:26   stuff it somewhere and that's what no [TS]

01:07:28   that's what they know there's no check [TS]

01:07:30   out the youth disco right and that that [TS]

01:07:32   is what any normal kid would do any [TS]

01:07:34   normal kid who made it as far as the [TS]

01:07:36   front door the disco in a deerstalker [TS]

01:07:38   which is not very many normal kids but [TS]

01:07:42   any normal kid at that point would say I [TS]

01:07:47   your stalker off uh-huh and 20 minutes [TS]

01:07:50   from now nobody's going to remember it [TS]

01:07:51   but I was like fuck that I'm I'm here [TS]

01:07:55   I'm queer get used to it uh-huh and I [TS]

01:07:57   spent that whole night dancing in that [TS]

01:07:58   deerstalker hat and it was going well [TS]

01:08:02   like i was even I was dancing with a [TS]

01:08:04   girl she had not remarked upon it I felt [TS]

01:08:08   like this is great and I'm looking [TS]

01:08:10   around and I'm having a good time and [TS]

01:08:12   there's a there's a kid and maybe a [TS]

01:08:14   little bit older than me 14 and he's [TS]

01:08:17   making out with his girlfriend and that [TS]

01:08:19   was kind of I was astonishing [TS]

01:08:22   you know like publicly making out at the [TS]

01:08:26   youth disco was a little bit of a big [TS]

01:08:27   deal and so I was looking at him [TS]

01:08:31   we're dancing i'm looking at mine that I [TS]

01:08:35   can make it out that's like almost [TS]

01:08:37   having sex [TS]

01:08:38   uh-huh and the guy looked he's making [TS]

01:08:40   out there he looks over sees me looking [TS]

01:08:44   at him [TS]

01:08:44   walks over on the dance floor and says [TS]

01:08:50   hey Sherlock why don't you investigate [TS]

01:08:52   somebody else [TS]

01:08:53   oh that is good right Oh 14 years old [TS]

01:08:58   and this guy's got that kind of fucking [TS]

01:09:00   kapow now he's probably still working on [TS]

01:09:04   the ski lift right now [TS]

01:09:06   hey guys 50 years old and he's he's [TS]

01:09:08   running a ski lift but at the time he [TS]

01:09:10   burned me he seems to me and he was [TS]

01:09:15   right I was fucking Sherlock and I [TS]

01:09:18   should've been investigating somebody [TS]

01:09:20   else is investigating the girl I was [TS]

01:09:21   dancing really really give you something [TS]

01:09:23   to think about he did and you know and [TS]

01:09:25   what he did was he there that that deer [TS]

01:09:28   stalker was already covered in a [TS]

01:09:30   ectoplasm shame but he then walked over [TS]

01:09:35   and set that ectoplasm on fire and I [TS]

01:09:38   didn't even know it burn [TS]

01:09:39   I didn't even know it will burn never [TS]

01:09:40   saw it coming and so I walked out of [TS]

01:09:43   there just steam coming off that have [TS]

01:09:45   and I never was able to you know it went [TS]

01:09:48   back into my dad's like hat his own [TS]

01:09:51   Christmas tree of hats and it just SAT [TS]

01:09:55   there in every time I walk past it would [TS]

01:09:57   sing that little song to me Sherlock [TS]

01:09:59   just like Hawking but that's that's part [TS]

01:10:04   of the problem that you usually like [TS]

01:10:07   you're not wearing a lot of novelty bits [TS]

01:10:09   today i would say the deerstalker let's [TS]

01:10:11   put it this way if there is a kind of [TS]

01:10:13   hat that is so closely associated with [TS]

01:10:15   associate with a person character or [TS]

01:10:18   even occupation that you can call it [TS]

01:10:20   that that might be a little gimmicky [TS]

01:10:22   that hat just has one it was a it has [TS]

01:10:25   one purpose it to make you look like [TS]

01:10:28   Sherlock Holmes that's right so they got [TS]

01:10:30   the elmer fudd hat you got the flaps you [TS]

01:10:32   get the jug hat with little crown can't [TS]

01:10:35   really wear a jug head you can wear no [TS]

01:10:36   more fried because it can also be [TS]

01:10:38   Ignatius j Riley that's true that's a [TS]

01:10:40   great look but dad but but you're not [TS]

01:10:42   doing that though I mean what we like [TS]

01:10:44   Andre Braugher like that's a good look i [TS]

01:10:46   would look like Andre Braugher a [TS]

01:10:47   heartbeat [TS]

01:10:48   yeah i mean like i can wear the shit out [TS]

01:10:50   of a hat in the Hat that i'm wearing [TS]

01:10:52   presently there are enough people out [TS]

01:10:54   there i mean i-i thought about it on the [TS]

01:10:56   way to the show and I actually tweeted [TS]

01:10:57   about it before we started that it if [TS]

01:10:59   you are when you go to the tattoo parlor [TS]

01:11:01   you get your 25th tattoo [TS]

01:11:03   they're obligated to give you a fedora [TS]

01:11:05   its part it's part of the culture and so [TS]

01:11:10   there are plenty of people walking [TS]

01:11:11   around with a fedora with an upturn brim [TS]

01:11:14   uh-huh and and very few of them have as [TS]

01:11:16   much story behind their head as i have [TS]

01:11:18   yeah it's just that I don't see myself [TS]

01:11:20   as one of those people you know like i [TS]

01:11:23   don't i'm not wearing creepers and a [TS]

01:11:26   watch on a chain so i have to be coming [TS]

01:11:30   from a very different place with it and [TS]

01:11:31   and it's frankly the and it's unclear [TS]

01:11:34   with that places you don't think you're [TS]

01:11:36   a ska band right i am not a saxophone [TS]

01:11:39   player [TS]

01:11:45   ah we need to get grants and offer [TS]

01:11:50   scholarships [TS]

01:11:51   however the as i understand it the key [TS]

01:11:55   to getting grants to have a grant writer [TS]

01:11:57   yep and write themselves and so and I [TS]

01:12:00   meet people all the time when I say what [TS]

01:12:02   do you say what a nice to meet you what [TS]

01:12:03   do you do I'm a grant writer huh [TS]

01:12:05   and I just fucking drop the scissors [TS]

01:12:06   right I'm like you're a great writer [TS]

01:12:09   that's fantastic i'm meeting you in the [TS]

01:12:11   Rye like I should we should collaborate [TS]

01:12:16   I need grants and they go oh well you [TS]

01:12:20   know typically I right medical grants [TS]

01:12:21   all rights you know perpetrator but I'm [TS]

01:12:24   like doesn't matter if you can write a [TS]

01:12:26   grant and helped me a lot of it's like [TS]

01:12:28   knowing how to format in Microsoft Word [TS]

01:12:30   yeah yeah well I think it's just filling [TS]

01:12:33   out a form it's like if you're a [TS]

01:12:34   scriptwriter like no matter how good [TS]

01:12:36   your script is if it's not in the format [TS]

01:12:38   the script needs to be in nobody's gonna [TS]

01:12:40   read past the first page that's right [TS]

01:12:42   in this case it didn't need to grant [TS]

01:12:44   know whether the whether that's for MIT [TS]

01:12:47   program for women from Saudi Arabia or [TS]

01:12:50   you know whatever it is we would ask for [TS]

01:12:51   money for a lot of lines you know intern [TS]

01:12:54   program for new zealand youth related [TS]

01:12:56   activities special projects we did we [TS]

01:13:00   could use a fun for special projects so [TS]

01:13:02   what like where who what what who would [TS]

01:13:04   be would be asking for a distraction the [TS]

01:13:08   robert wood johnson foundation that's [TS]

01:13:10   nice [TS]

01:13:11   or the the oven Sarah Williams [TS]

01:13:12   foundation the MacArthur Foundation look [TS]

01:13:15   MacArthur geniuses macarthur genius [TS]

01:13:17   grant ah there's a lot of places that we [TS]

01:13:20   could go i don't think they like being [TS]

01:13:22   called a genius grant i think that puts [TS]

01:13:23   me off the beer a little bit you know [TS]

01:13:25   you know every once in a while the [TS]

01:13:26   United States realizes that they never [TS]

01:13:28   gave any medals of Honor to any [TS]

01:13:30   african-american soldiers in world war [TS]

01:13:32   one and they try to write that injustice [TS]

01:13:34   and they posthumously decide that that [TS]

01:13:37   four different african-american soldiers [TS]

01:13:40   from war one actually deserved medals of [TS]

01:13:42   honor and didn't receive them because of [TS]

01:13:45   a systemic racism and then they are [TS]

01:13:48   retro actively awarded the Medal of [TS]

01:13:49   Honor and it's handed to their [TS]

01:13:51   grandchildren in a ceremony at the White [TS]

01:13:53   House [TS]

01:13:54   thank you for your service that's right [TS]

01:13:55   thank you for that you know like that we [TS]

01:13:57   are writing a historic wrong it's a [TS]

01:14:00   comedy called retroactive continuity [TS]

01:14:02   Oh exactly back to change the story you [TS]

01:14:04   say you know actually no magnetic is a [TS]

01:14:06   magneto was at the ash words exactly or [TS]

01:14:09   uh as the Mormons do like uh we are [TS]

01:14:12   retro actively baptized and all of your [TS]

01:14:14   dead relatives into the normal church so [TS]

01:14:16   that they can stop being in whatever [TS]

01:14:17   Mormon purgatory [TS]

01:14:19   yes area and they now can call utah [TS]

01:14:21   that's right and now they can enter into [TS]

01:14:24   the kingdom of heaven even though [TS]

01:14:25   they've been dead first huge huge retcon [TS]

01:14:28   next Monster people for that the sponsor [TS]

01:14:30   people for that I think so i think [TS]

01:14:31   there's something you go into the temple [TS]

01:14:32   and you and you do some thing there are [TS]

01:14:35   curtains you go through so this is like [TS]

01:14:37   a duck pond [TS]

01:14:37   you coming to pick a doctors got the [TS]

01:14:39   name of somebody on their oh wow ok [TS]

01:14:41   alright that's a sponsor you you've got [TS]

01:14:43   John johansson love provo utah and like [TS]

01:14:47   that you get a sponsor him you know what [TS]

01:14:49   I think it's a duck pond but really you [TS]

01:14:50   stand on the short you try and throw a [TS]

01:14:52   ring around the neck of the doc let's [TS]

01:14:53   get quite program [TS]

01:14:55   yeah so you're hit you're hooking rings [TS]

01:14:56   and then you get a ring around a duck [TS]

01:14:59   who you pull the duck and the name [TS]

01:15:01   that's under the name that's taped to [TS]

01:15:03   the underside of the duck is the person [TS]

01:15:04   that could get into heaven [TS]

01:15:06   i mean i don't know i don't know all the [TS]

01:15:07   doctrine of the mormon church but it [TS]

01:15:08   seems like that's not a lot is a lot of [TS]

01:15:10   reading so i have so many kids they [TS]

01:15:12   split up the books between the different [TS]

01:15:14   individuals it's a lot of scholarship [TS]

01:15:16   the book of Raymond the book of love [TS]

01:15:19   it'll kill ya but people you know people [TS]

01:15:21   love carnival games I I saw it I saw it [TS]

01:15:23   on Saturday people love carnival games [TS]

01:15:25   love quotes or ducks [TS]

01:15:27   I know they do i what [TS]

01:15:29   my entire youth I i spent at the [TS]

01:15:32   carnival throwing darts at balloons that [TS]

01:15:34   stretchy Pepsi bottle like one of the [TS]

01:15:36   stretchy Pepsi bottle i wanted the the [TS]

01:15:37   dog leash with the invisible dog [TS]

01:15:39   remember the invisible dog course we [TS]

01:15:43   talked about 25 at the and I wanted the [TS]

01:15:46   coke mirror and I said that said a thing [TS]

01:15:49   in there maybe fridays coming [TS]

01:15:51   well that one or are you know i was i [TS]

01:15:53   was pretty into the band heart and I was [TS]

01:15:56   like cooking here with that with heart [TS]

01:15:58   wasn't weird i totally had Barracuda in [TS]

01:16:00   my head all morning and keep them to get [TS]

01:16:02   integrated ultraman our town they eat up [TS]

01:16:09   their work and a cochlear with harder [TS]

01:16:14   than and then dreamboat annie on it like [TS]

01:16:17   fucking throw darts at a balloon all [TS]

01:16:19   afternoon but I'm I feel like retro [TS]

01:16:23   actively we're gonna get some kind of [TS]

01:16:25   award 11 our fans get off their asses [TS]

01:16:29   and stop sending us weird tweets and [TS]

01:16:31   start putting that energy into giving us [TS]

01:16:33   itunes recommendations so [TS]

01:16:36   oh yeah we got some kind of Irving [TS]

01:16:38   Thalberg award version for podcasting [TS]

01:16:40   exactly that's going to be like hey you [TS]

01:16:42   know what these guys invented a thing [TS]

01:16:46   uh-huh which was a you know slightly [TS]

01:16:48   different modification on a previous [TS]

01:16:50   thing and actually long-standing thing [TS]

01:16:53   but their mom they're mod turned it was [TS]

01:16:56   like it was like nobody wanted to buy a [TS]

01:16:58   Segway who which turned the segue into [TS]

01:17:01   one of those hoverboards and now all of [TS]

01:17:03   a sudden everything you know I know [TS]

01:17:05   there are two guys in my neighborhood [TS]

01:17:07   who drive those hoverboards around there [TS]

01:17:10   aren't even in sidewalks and act like [TS]

01:17:11   it's normal [TS]

01:17:12   they're just like I myself on my hover [TS]

01:17:13   board with ground effects lights rolling [TS]

01:17:16   around the neighborhood and I'm like you [TS]

01:17:18   wouldn't be on a Segway to save your [TS]

01:17:19   life but you take the take the [TS]

01:17:22   handlebars off of it and all of a sudden [TS]

01:17:24   that's the mod that now there are [TS]

01:17:26   Norwegian guys going through airports on [TS]

01:17:28   them [TS]

01:17:28   yep the kids in my neighborhood in the [TS]

01:17:30   in the hoodies are rolling around on [TS]

01:17:32   hoverboards I think that's like that's [TS]

01:17:34   like us i think we are the hoverboard of [TS]

01:17:38   the segway of podcasting [TS]

01:17:39   very very well played I I you know thank [TS]

01:17:41   you for our services i like to say I was [TS]

01:17:44   don't please don't wait until we die [TS]

01:17:45   don't get our ancestors give it to us [TS]

01:17:47   and then let us let us share that with [TS]

01:17:49   others through our grant program that [TS]

01:17:51   will do something [TS]

01:17:52   theoretically imagine trotting out [TS]

01:17:53   Merlin man's grandkids and John Roberts [TS]

01:17:56   grandkids and saying hey thank you for [TS]

01:17:58   your grandparents service you know what [TS]

01:18:00   it is it's like Bill and Ted's Excellent [TS]

01:18:01   Adventure is going to be you know [TS]

01:18:04   Clarence Clemons and George Carlin [TS]

01:18:08   George Carlin sitting up doing this like [TS]

01:18:10   weird ritual waving of their hands in a [TS]

01:18:14   in a windmill of a guitar motion [TS]

01:18:17   yes there'll be saying thank you thank [TS]

01:18:19   you [TS]

01:18:20   lourdes lords and masters and we're [TS]

01:18:23   gonna be like what good does that do us [TS]

01:18:24   were fuckin dead our brains or anything [TS]

01:18:26   I just saying the other day like I'd [TS]

01:18:28   always known the name Alan to so tucson [TS]

01:18:31   tucson Todd and and you know I know the [TS]

01:18:33   name I knew he was kind of famous I [TS]

01:18:35   never knew why then I heard two [TS]

01:18:36   different uh you know a posthumous [TS]

01:18:39   interviews with him in the same day last [TS]

01:18:41   week I was like god damn it god fucking [TS]

01:18:43   dammit not only does this guy right to [TS]

01:18:45   this guy right tons of songs that i [TS]

01:18:46   really like he's obviously an incredible [TS]

01:18:48   gentlemen like a desperately talented [TS]

01:18:50   man with amazing range yeah and the [TS]

01:18:52   ability to play just anything read his [TS]

01:18:54   wikipedia page it's like a history of [TS]

01:18:56   western music oh my gosh it's amazing [TS]

01:18:58   what you know he wrote down with cream [TS]

01:18:59   from the dough makes made famous by her [TS]

01:19:02   about burton digging and other delights [TS]

01:19:04   yeah the dating game song he wrote that [TS]

01:19:06   and that's like god damn it why do I [TS]

01:19:09   only ever learn about these interesting [TS]

01:19:11   people after they died in and then Terry [TS]

01:19:13   Gross is out for the day [TS]

01:19:14   yeah it makes me so sad why you know [TS]

01:19:16   don't do that with us [TS]

01:19:17   don't do that don't wait till we die I i [TS]

01:19:19   was fortunate enough to get introduced [TS]

01:19:21   willing to saw by Elvis Costello who did [TS]

01:19:26   a tour [TS]

01:19:27   oh yeah and a lot of people recommend [TS]

01:19:29   the album he did and so I I i was at [TS]

01:19:33   bonnaroo against that they they played a [TS]

01:19:36   bar when i was on the side of the stage [TS]

01:19:38   and he said he was an incredible piano [TS]

01:19:40   player 2 and Elvis was you know they're [TS]

01:19:43   like you can say a lot of things about [TS]

01:19:45   Elvis Costello but [TS]

01:19:46   one of the one of the great things about [TS]

01:19:49   him is that he definitely puts the [TS]

01:19:51   spotlight on people that he admires I [TS]

01:19:54   like this thing with burt bacharach like [TS]

01:19:56   be so gracious about that so he was just [TS]

01:19:58   like onstage just like check out the man [TS]

01:20:02   and uh and there was no denying it and [TS]

01:20:04   then I was i I was transformed by that [TS]

01:20:08   but that's but you're absolutely right [TS]

01:20:12   like I mean we don't you and I do not to [TS]

01:20:16   our own horn but let's be honest I don't [TS]

01:20:18   even have a horn but here's the thing [TS]

01:20:19   the people that should be Tooting our [TS]

01:20:22   horn are not tuning loud enough they're [TS]

01:20:24   out there I don't know where they're [TS]

01:20:25   tuning their tune into each other [TS]

01:20:27   yeah and it's like yeah you guys already [TS]

01:20:29   know you guys know who would it [TS]

01:20:32   you should go down to the student center [TS]

01:20:33   and you should be wearing a sandwich [TS]

01:20:35   board says Roger on the line [TS]

01:20:39   yep and you should be handed out what [TS]

01:20:40   people are gonna be asking you some [TS]

01:20:41   questions about what you want a sandwich [TS]

01:20:42   board you can explain [TS]

01:20:44   yeah you can say listen I'm not here to [TS]

01:20:46   tell you about Jehovah i'm going to tell [TS]

01:20:48   you about a different kind of job you [TS]

01:20:50   should know somebody with a better [TS]

01:20:51   marketing plan is probably going to be [TS]

01:20:52   the one who's on the wikipedia page for [TS]

01:20:54   Thought technology not gonna be you will [TS]

01:20:56   be some something headed the briefcase [TS]

01:20:59   carrying doofus academic yeah it's gonna [TS]

01:21:01   be where's our parade.com and they're [TS]

01:21:03   gonna be they're gonna be making dollars [TS]

01:21:06   hand over fist or I hear it all the time [TS]

01:21:08   people walking around all the great [TS]

01:21:10   shows and I like what the fuck are you [TS]

01:21:12   talking about all the great shows and he [TS]

01:21:16   put on a t-shirt somebody tried looking [TS]

01:21:18   at an empty inbox on your phone [TS]

01:21:20   haha where's my bell [TS]

01:21:23   I I somebody came up to me the other day [TS]

01:21:27   and they were like and then they leaned [TS]

01:21:29   in and whispered it's my good friend [TS]

01:21:31   Kyle MacAllister leaned in and whispered [TS]

01:21:33   in my ear tips you would know the answer [TS]

01:21:35   to this is inbox zeros to laughing what [TS]

01:21:42   did you tell him what you tell cow was [TS]

01:21:44   like I think there are a lot of people [TS]

01:21:46   who still aspire to inbox zero over i [TS]

01:21:50   think it I think it entered into the [TS]

01:21:52   culture and it became a thing became an [TS]

01:21:54   aspirational thing sort of like losing [TS]

01:21:57   10 pounds and all the people are like I [TS]

01:22:00   we got to lose 10 pounds and this is the [TS]

01:22:02   year it's like I've really got it really [TS]

01:22:05   got inbox zero like communism [TS]

01:22:08   I mean a lot of people heard about it [TS]

01:22:10   but they never bothered to read anything [TS]

01:22:12   about what it actually means and so they [TS]

01:22:14   just man I thought about this the other [TS]

01:22:16   day the strength of a religion who is in [TS]

01:22:20   how it is translated to people who are [TS]

01:22:23   not paying attention who are who are not [TS]

01:22:25   prepared to read the book and who are [TS]

01:22:27   not who want her there looking for a [TS]

01:22:29   religion and they want one that the [TS]

01:22:33   garbled translation makes sense [TS]

01:22:35   uh right so wherever the messaging the [TS]

01:22:40   branding that the bullet points the [TS]

01:22:41   elevator pitch can all make it through [TS]

01:22:44   the mangling of something like it [TS]

01:22:46   doesn't really understand it that's [TS]

01:22:47   right because every religion is [TS]

01:22:48   basically a game of telephone and the [TS]

01:22:51   original story then you know that you [TS]

01:22:54   whisper it to somebody they whispered to [TS]

01:22:55   the guy next to them and pretty soon [TS]

01:22:57   it's like oh well apparently you throw a [TS]

01:22:59   ring around the neck of a duck in your [TS]

01:23:00   your say somebody from purgatory your [TS]

01:23:03   grandfather goes to heaven and your [TS]

01:23:05   underwear does if that makes sense to [TS]

01:23:07   people then that's then the religion [TS]

01:23:08   takes off [TS]

01:23:09   yeah and if it because nobody is reading [TS]

01:23:11   the book and if you think about all the [TS]

01:23:15   religions in the world right now they're [TS]

01:23:16   all like the product of a game of [TS]

01:23:19   telephone from the original story and [TS]

01:23:22   you just go wow that's that's [TS]

01:23:24   fascinating if I we're going to start [TS]

01:23:26   really and that's the problem with [TS]

01:23:27   Scientology obviously you know you stuff [TS]

01:23:29   happens i know you hated I know you hate [TS]

01:23:32   in our 20john I know you're pulling the [TS]

01:23:34   blinds down on your office [TS]

01:23:36   listen I can cut this show right now I [TS]

01:23:39   can go back to the last thing well for [TS]

01:23:42   Roderick said side the word Scientology [TS]

01:23:44   because they've got a scrobbler was [TS]

01:23:46   listening to every podcast what's inside [TS]

01:23:49   donated so far this was somebody pulls [TS]

01:23:51   up outside your house in a Lincoln [TS]

01:23:53   Continental and they're like they're so [TS]

01:23:56   we're looking to talk to you for a [TS]

01:23:57   second [TS]

01:23:58   pretty soon I'm not scrubbing floors in [TS]

01:24:00   a trailer in Florida the breath of the [TS]

01:24:01   problem with Scientology is the original [TS]

01:24:03   book sounds like a game [TS]

01:24:07   and so why was not gonna transplant yeah [TS]

01:24:10   well you just gotta work up your OT [TS]

01:24:11   levels [TS]

01:24:13   oh yeah i right here yeah you know when [TS]

01:24:15   you get ot for to have any idea you get [TS]

01:24:17   30-45 you have any idea this is [TS]

01:24:18   knowledge that will destroy you John [TS]

01:24:20   ot4 heard that seems i think it survived [TS]

01:24:22   i think it's OTC 5i feel like that's [TS]

01:24:25   when they really open the books and [TS]

01:24:26   that's that's when they've got their [TS]

01:24:28   version of the dark night of the soul [TS]

01:24:29   you find out what's really going on with [TS]

01:24:31   that with the jets and stuff and this is [TS]

01:24:32   where the right so and that's pretty [TS]

01:24:34   early in the game right how many ot's [TS]

01:24:36   are there you can add a lot over time [TS]

01:24:38   there's a lot about a lot of OT [TS]

01:24:40   inflation because of me it's like I said [TS]

01:24:42   Mickey Mouse is about to go on a [TS]

01:24:44   copyright they always extend copyright [TS]

01:24:45   like as soon as Tom Cruise like needs [TS]

01:24:47   needs a little goose and that's Amorites [TS]

01:24:49   and this is the thing I never understood [TS]

01:24:51   about the main note again here to your [TS]

01:24:54   example it's like giving a six-star to [TS]

01:24:57   General George Washington did they do [TS]

01:25:00   that you have to give a six-star you [TS]

01:25:02   look on the page i'm sure you have [TS]

01:25:03   because we know you have to go to the [TS]

01:25:05   page on us generals and say the whole [TS]

01:25:08   history of all the stars the five-star [TS]

01:25:09   generals you know not many five-star [TS]

01:25:11   generals you have to be general of the [TS]

01:25:13   army and we don't let those anymore but [TS]

01:25:15   six stars come on fuck you [TS]

01:25:17   yeah they had to make up a design for [TS]

01:25:18   that's baloney [TS]

01:25:20   mhm that's bloody i don't i don't [TS]

01:25:21   endorse it you don't smoke I don't [TS]

01:25:23   endorse that when you get where does it [TS]

01:25:25   end where don't know many stars George [TS]

01:25:27   Washington had fuck you stars [TS]

01:25:31   barely got out of that [TS]