Roderick on the Line

Ep. 177: "When Fleece Became Flannel"


00:00:00   this episode of Roderick on the line is [TS]

00:00:01   sponsored by cards against humanity this [TS]

00:00:03   month they invited sincere engineer to [TS]

00:00:06   help me say hi to john [TS]

00:00:13   Roger I gotta lie [TS]

00:00:18   hello [TS]

00:00:24   I John mm-hmm [TS]

00:00:28   hi Merlin how's it going it's going well [TS]

00:00:32   it's going well [TS]

00:00:33   sounds good sounds good you sound like a [TS]

00:00:35   man restored [TS]

00:00:37   it's pouring down rain here and has been [TS]

00:00:39   for days and that is very good you know [TS]

00:00:44   it's really thats whatever but you know [TS]

00:00:46   what's really interesting is it's [TS]

00:00:47   raining here a ho [TS]

00:00:49   yeah when it rains the San Francisco man [TS]

00:00:51   that's a smart that's far that everybody [TS]

00:00:53   is gonna smell haha [TS]

00:00:55   it washes washes them all down into the [TS]

00:00:59   sea does one day a real rain is gonna [TS]

00:01:02   come here at this time of year when the [TS]

00:01:06   rain comes the cold also coming in the [TS]

00:01:10   rain and the cold arrive together and it [TS]

00:01:13   scares the living daylights out of all [TS]

00:01:15   the people who arrived at any point in [TS]

00:01:19   the last nine months I don't become [TS]

00:01:22   suddenly yeah and all the people that [TS]

00:01:24   are like I moved there in march and [TS]

00:01:26   seattle's amazing [TS]

00:01:27   yeah and they just they spent the whole [TS]

00:01:30   summer thinking that Seattle was amazing [TS]

00:01:31   and then the cold icy death grip hand of [TS]

00:01:36   winter arrives just arrives wanna get [TS]

00:01:40   soda pig in a poke me an enemy that [TS]

00:01:42   having Tallahassee they brought me there [TS]

00:01:44   like all come we want you to get this [TS]

00:01:46   job in Tallahassee come visit and as it [TS]

00:01:49   turned out they brought me there in the [TS]

00:01:51   midst of a festival called springtime [TS]

00:01:53   tallahassee and is the one week a year [TS]

00:01:55   when it's really nice and tallahassee up [TS]

00:01:58   exactly right [TS]

00:02:00   you go you go you go in there stairs and [TS]

00:02:02   flowers and you know children are making [TS]

00:02:04   daisy chains and running around the [TS]

00:02:06   Maypole and then like a week later it's [TS]

00:02:08   like 95 degrees right and 95 degrees and [TS]

00:02:11   and and the like the witches are [TS]

00:02:13   building little stick figures out in the [TS]

00:02:15   for the swamps right they start early [TS]

00:02:18   their Halloween starts earlier every [TS]

00:02:19   year John it's already starting 2016 [TS]

00:02:21   Helen so that's already in stores as i [TS]

00:02:24   was driving in as i was driving in a you [TS]

00:02:27   know I went past the methadone clinic [TS]

00:02:28   and everybody there is running for cover [TS]

00:02:30   and then all the people [TS]

00:02:31   that have built camps like all the camps [TS]

00:02:35   in the in the medians and up and kind of [TS]

00:02:37   under the freeway and stuff you can just [TS]

00:02:39   see the blue tarps come out and people [TS]

00:02:41   are like holy shit [TS]

00:02:42   ah my tent weeks that's sucks [TS]

00:02:46   oh my god it sucks to be wet it's brutal [TS]

00:02:48   and and then all of the Amazon all the [TS]

00:02:51   like young guys in the j.crew suits and [TS]

00:02:54   all the tight jeans people and all the [TS]

00:02:57   Macklemore haircut people who are making [TS]

00:03:01   a hundred eighty thousand dollars a year [TS]

00:03:02   are like no amount of thousands of [TS]

00:03:05   dollars a year can compensate me for [TS]

00:03:07   this feeling which is that my bones are [TS]

00:03:10   cold [TS]

00:03:10   uh-huh and and then I go me haha [TS]

00:03:16   because my bones have no feelings oh is [TS]

00:03:18   that right not at all you seem like a [TS]

00:03:19   man's bones would have maybe even [TS]

00:03:21   sensitivity sometimes yeah maybe you're [TS]

00:03:23   right i know probably not find that [TS]

00:03:25   funny should bring this up because this [TS]

00:03:26   is actually this is not by topic for the [TS]

00:03:27   show but my lady and I are both actively [TS]

00:03:31   looking for new of rain gear [TS]

00:03:34   oh yeah I got a marmot jacket to [TS]

00:03:36   replacement old marmot jacket and I told [TS]

00:03:39   you this a few weeks ago and it looks [TS]

00:03:41   it's virtually identical to the marmot [TS]

00:03:43   jacket I've been wearing forever [TS]

00:03:44   it's got one critical piece missing [TS]

00:03:46   which is does not have the front outside [TS]

00:03:49   pocket into which one could put and I [TS]

00:03:51   thought oh what is why did they take [TS]

00:03:53   that way you know i'm guessing cost [TS]

00:03:57   yeah but you know that that's a shame [TS]

00:03:59   but like in Russia as this is super [TS]

00:04:01   interesting [TS]

00:04:02   she's looking also first ring here it's [TS]

00:04:04   like to be warm so now I've taken upon [TS]

00:04:06   myself as a good husband to try and find [TS]

00:04:08   her some some cure that will be warm now [TS]

00:04:10   filson the filson where that's a [TS]

00:04:12   commitment when you get filson you're [TS]

00:04:14   getting the whole lifestyle right i [TS]

00:04:15   don't own a single fill something right [TS]

00:04:17   now [TS]

00:04:17   yeah but thing about Phil's and stuff [TS]

00:04:19   let's be honest film stuff is a [TS]

00:04:22   commitment to being wet it's not it is [TS]

00:04:27   like buying hip-waders right you want [TS]

00:04:28   you want like you real now you're gonna [TS]

00:04:30   find someplace where you could really [TS]

00:04:31   get in the water [TS]

00:04:32   yeah but you're gonna be I mean it's wax [TS]

00:04:34   cotton and wool it's the old style of [TS]

00:04:38   dealing with the rain which is like i am [TS]

00:04:41   going to be [TS]

00:04:43   wet in the rain and I'm gonna be smelly [TS]

00:04:46   in the rain but i'm not going to die [TS]

00:04:48   like a sheepdog [TS]

00:04:49   yeah i'm not going to die in the rain [TS]

00:04:51   because i have this somewhat like [TS]

00:04:53   impenetrable material on but i am not [TS]

00:04:57   i'm not trying to do this like Healy [TS]

00:04:59   handsome thing where I step out of my [TS]

00:05:01   rain gear and I'm just dry and it's a [TS]

00:05:04   it's much more of a like I'm going to [TS]

00:05:06   live in the in the rain [TS]

00:05:08   that's interesting is my lady actually [TS]

00:05:10   has a healing Hanson I think it's a [TS]

00:05:12   yachting I'm you can't use the word [TS]

00:05:14   yachting without sounding like an [TS]

00:05:16   asshole but I it's down to like I think [TS]

00:05:18   it actually has like a little bored hole [TS]

00:05:20   we can put a rope through and stuff yeah [TS]

00:05:22   sure [TS]

00:05:23   and that boy is that ever you can just [TS]

00:05:24   shoot water that thing all day long as [TS]

00:05:25   laugh at you [TS]

00:05:26   so here it's so all of the Alaskan [TS]

00:05:28   fisherman they before they go up to [TS]

00:05:31   their new season they all go around and [TS]

00:05:35   they get a new season's worth of healy [TS]

00:05:37   Hanson stuff and it's like a suit you [TS]

00:05:42   know and it's impervious it's truly I [TS]

00:05:46   mean if Alaska fishermen choose it then [TS]

00:05:50   you can be guaranteed that there isn't a [TS]

00:05:52   better thing maybe we should fill in [TS]

00:05:53   some blanks for people who are in places [TS]

00:05:54   that have rain but we're talking about [TS]

00:05:57   it sounds seems to me like we're talking [TS]

00:05:58   about a distinction with Wilson you've [TS]

00:06:01   got some old-world technologies in [TS]

00:06:04   please try some some basically medieval [TS]

00:06:07   starways of waxing a sheep or something [TS]

00:06:09   so you can put it on [TS]

00:06:10   whereas in the other camp over here [TS]

00:06:12   interesting with my right hand you've [TS]

00:06:14   got more of what I will call technicals [TS]

00:06:15   you've got things like you've got modern [TS]

00:06:17   modern fabrics modern materials and [TS]

00:06:19   methods to have a light maybe it's not [TS]

00:06:21   working [TS]

00:06:22   it might have working that's right [TS]

00:06:23   working isn't a big part of having [TS]

00:06:25   technical is working well you know [TS]

00:06:27   wicking that's it then you get into your [TS]

00:06:28   polypropylenes I feel like there are the [TS]

00:06:31   people who say who so so it's a as your [TS]

00:06:36   as the lightness of the fabric the light [TS]

00:06:40   not just light-colored but like light [TS]

00:06:44   could like the less you feel the garment [TS]

00:06:47   be made it maybe it's waterproofness is [TS]

00:06:52   there but its hardiness goes away so [TS]

00:06:55   like when I [TS]

00:06:56   in seattle in the northwest if you see a [TS]

00:06:59   alignment up on a phone pole in the dead [TS]

00:07:03   of winter changing some transformer [TS]

00:07:07   uh-huh in Seattle [TS]

00:07:09   there's a very good chance he's gonna be [TS]

00:07:10   wearing filson because it's not just [TS]

00:07:13   that he wants to be protected against [TS]

00:07:16   the elements but he's also doing hard [TS]

00:07:19   work up a phone pole in the window right [TS]

00:07:21   it's like almost like I was I've been a [TS]

00:07:23   fan of the carhartt product line in the [TS]

00:07:24   past that like those like a logging [TS]

00:07:27   pants those pants with like that the [TS]

00:07:28   extra me and I'm like you can't kill [TS]

00:07:29   those things you can climb up all day [TS]

00:07:31   long it would make a scratch and and [TS]

00:07:33   feels the same except that except the [TS]

00:07:35   car it's like the carhartt pants was [TS]

00:07:36   then additionally dipped in hot wax and [TS]

00:07:39   allow to cool and really appealing he [TS]

00:07:42   had some amazing it's amazing when you [TS]

00:07:44   see lineman in them you realize like oh [TS]

00:07:47   this is a guy who could pick any he [TS]

00:07:50   needs his clothes to be like a like a [TS]

00:07:53   suit of armor another it's another tool [TS]

00:07:55   yeah and it's these are not expensive [TS]

00:07:57   items but are not inexpensive items but [TS]

00:07:59   he has chosen them because it's [TS]

00:08:01   necessary and and Healy Hanson it's not [TS]

00:08:04   something you would want to ski in right [TS]

00:08:06   it's not something that you would want a [TS]

00:08:08   mountain bike in or or do any kind of [TS]

00:08:11   like we kind of things it's stuff that I [TS]

00:08:15   mean when you are honored on a fishing [TS]

00:08:17   boat in Alaska the weather becomes the [TS]

00:08:20   weather becomes sentient it is [TS]

00:08:23   absolutely trying to kill you it is [TS]

00:08:25   trying to it is trying to drown you on [TS]

00:08:27   your feet like as you stand the weather [TS]

00:08:30   is trying to cause you to suffocate in [TS]

00:08:33   water business and so the Healey Hanson [TS]

00:08:35   stuff is for that and and also your [TS]

00:08:38   you're like pulling monsters out of an [TS]

00:08:42   iron Gracie which is only not frozen [TS]

00:08:47   because its ocean it's too mad to be [TS]

00:08:50   frozen [TS]

00:08:51   you're pulling monsters out of the [TS]

00:08:53   depths of this and killing them with [TS]

00:08:56   hooks and so that's so it's a different [TS]

00:08:59   kind of gear then if you're like [TS]

00:09:01   snowboarding right right and so as you [TS]

00:09:05   get up but if you're snowboarding you [TS]

00:09:07   don't want to be covered with all this [TS]

00:09:08   weird [TS]

00:09:10   like bulletproof fabric you just kind of [TS]

00:09:12   want to stay warm and dry [TS]

00:09:13   that's a series of trade off so it's a [TS]

00:09:15   continuum like columbia sportswear [TS]

00:09:17   company which is a company from up here [TS]

00:09:19   that stuff will keep you warm and dry [TS]

00:09:22   I'm looking at one right now that looks [TS]

00:09:24   like it's right in my wheelhouse and [TS]

00:09:27   this is the looking at the columbia is [TS]

00:09:33   this jacket but the thing is it's it's [TS]

00:09:35   it's very wide purporting to this review [TS]

00:09:37   on the site i enjoy cool tools they say [TS]

00:09:39   that it is it's good it's very warm but [TS]

00:09:42   like you can even wear for too long as [TS]

00:09:44   you can so warm and look it's very good [TS]

00:09:46   at repelling water and it's got a hood [TS]

00:09:49   but you really look like you work at [TS]

00:09:51   uber yeah you know that look [TS]

00:09:54   oh yeah I do and and that's the that is [TS]

00:09:57   the modern trade off now in the old days [TS]

00:10:00   eddie bauer was the was the company that [TS]

00:10:04   made stuff that was like it was burly [TS]

00:10:07   enough but also you could you could wear [TS]

00:10:11   it in town [TS]

00:10:12   uh-huh or you know you could wear it up [TS]

00:10:14   on the mountain you can wear it in town [TS]

00:10:15   you didn't look like a dork but eddie [TS]

00:10:17   bauer went any powers went the wrong way [TS]

00:10:20   they sold their soul to the man and then [TS]

00:10:24   everything like the the other day we [TS]

00:10:26   were trying i was driving with the [TS]

00:10:28   friend who's in town it was Halloween [TS]

00:10:30   and we a couple of people are trying to [TS]

00:10:33   get across the street you know we in the [TS]

00:10:35   northwest if somebody stands on the edge [TS]

00:10:37   of the sidewalk and looks at you you are [TS]

00:10:39   obligated to stop and let them cross the [TS]

00:10:41   street that is this the cultural norm [TS]

00:10:44   here and may even be the law although [TS]

00:10:47   the cops never stopped for you you stand [TS]

00:10:49   on the sidewalk and stare right at them [TS]

00:10:50   and they'll just look at look straight [TS]

00:10:52   ahead and keep driving shark eyes but [TS]

00:10:54   the rest of us are expected to stop for [TS]

00:10:56   our fellow citizens and these two you [TS]

00:10:59   know they're probably early sixties [TS]

00:11:01   they're both wearing Outdoor Research [TS]

00:11:06   hats which are kind of a strange hybrid [TS]

00:11:10   of like an Australian bush hat except [TS]

00:11:13   it's made out of cortex and it has it [TS]

00:11:16   has strings you know it's like a chin [TS]

00:11:18   rope sure i caii thought that a dad hat [TS]

00:11:21   it's a little bit of a dad [TS]

00:11:22   but but but mom and dad are both wearing [TS]

00:11:25   these hats and they're wearing the [TS]

00:11:27   requisite like purple fleece some cortex [TS]

00:11:32   some you know the like cargo pants by a [TS]

00:11:35   company called cool which is K uhl cool [TS]

00:11:39   with them i think there's even a whom [TS]

00:11:42   lot in there where their logo has a [TS]

00:11:44   mountain in the background [TS]

00:11:45   enough already and and they've got some [TS]

00:11:48   kind of Solomon adventure shoe and just [TS]

00:11:52   making up words no no and I'm and I'm [TS]

00:11:54   looking at across the street tonight and [TS]

00:11:56   i turn my but my lady friend and I'm [TS]

00:11:58   like is that a halloween costume [TS]

00:12:00   I mean they are so Northwest I'm coming [TS]

00:12:04   as everyone in the Pacific Northwest [TS]

00:12:05   yeah it's like it's it's ludicrous the [TS]

00:12:08   only thing they need right now our ski [TS]

00:12:10   poles that they're using to go on a [TS]

00:12:12   brisk walk right maybe like carrying [TS]

00:12:14   carrying a coffee a locally sourced [TS]

00:12:16   coffee and riding a hoverboard [TS]

00:12:18   mm that's the those who haven't yet you [TS]

00:12:21   can hover boards around now that's the [TS]

00:12:23   young people think these these people [TS]

00:12:24   are like they are ready to go up Mount [TS]

00:12:27   Baker right now except they're not [TS]

00:12:30   anywhere near Mount Baker City replay [TS]

00:12:32   people look like you could its you could [TS]

00:12:34   i've also many it's difficult to tell [TS]

00:12:36   are they going out for half and half are [TS]

00:12:38   they on their way to climb Mount Tam or [TS]

00:12:41   are potentially going to a wine tasting [TS]

00:12:44   that's where there's a certain kind of [TS]

00:12:45   fleece upscale fleece that people wear [TS]

00:12:48   to all of those things [TS]

00:12:49   yeah and-and-and for me the moment that [TS]

00:12:53   the moment that like fleece became [TS]

00:12:56   flannel right when police became flannel [TS]

00:13:00   there was a there was a sea change in [TS]

00:13:04   all of our lives like there was flannel [TS]

00:13:08   for long long time and you know flannel [TS]

00:13:11   and like moleskine and then there was [TS]

00:13:15   police and once there was police certain [TS]

00:13:17   certain large segment of the population [TS]

00:13:20   up here just never thought about clothes [TS]

00:13:23   again [TS]

00:13:24   and interesting yes [TS]

00:13:28   yeah you know it's funny uh-uh I don't [TS]

00:13:30   know I'm again that we always get the [TS]

00:13:31   word wrong is it inertia but there's [TS]

00:13:33   something happened something comes along [TS]

00:13:34   and there's different trends and all the [TS]

00:13:36   sudden there's a thing there goes oh [TS]

00:13:37   yeah that's for me the boot boot came [TS]

00:13:39   along and suddenly like I guess every [TS]

00:13:42   young woman who want to look like she [TS]

00:13:43   just woke up I was wearing boots in [TS]

00:13:45   boosting your yoga pants and put the [TS]

00:13:48   other pants [TS]

00:13:49   I mean yoga pants yoga pants look I'm [TS]

00:13:51   pro yoga pants don't get me yeah well [TS]

00:13:54   you know you never know when you just [TS]

00:13:55   might need to do some yoga sure it goes [TS]

00:13:58   somewhere maybe you got a hot Sam you go [TS]

00:14:00   to an orange julius uh-huh well the [TS]

00:14:03   thing about yoga pants like that [TS]

00:14:04   somewhere along the line the technology [TS]

00:14:06   of pants changed so that they were they [TS]

00:14:10   were but lifting pants have wondered [TS]

00:14:12   about that it has a brassiere like [TS]

00:14:14   quality yes yes and then I what I [TS]

00:14:17   accomplished that if I were you up and I [TS]

00:14:18   don't know I honestly don't know i think [TS]

00:14:20   if i put on yoga pants that it would be [TS]

00:14:23   bad it would be bad luck to see you in [TS]

00:14:26   yoga pants but there was there was a [TS]

00:14:28   time when I was when I was in my teens [TS]

00:14:30   even where there were not that many [TS]

00:14:34   pants that made your butt look good it [TS]

00:14:39   was and you have to have a certain kind [TS]

00:14:41   of but you use definitely to certain [TS]

00:14:43   kind of but you're right there didn't [TS]

00:14:45   used to be used to be you could have [TS]

00:14:46   like formal so you can have a formal [TS]

00:14:48   slack [TS]

00:14:48   mmm you can have whatever looks good no [TS]

00:14:51   no you couldn't know absolutely no no [TS]

00:14:53   absolutely not that's why you got to [TS]

00:14:54   have the flap that goes over the back [TS]

00:14:55   with events that's right ok i'm using [TS]

00:14:57   basically every closed word that I know [TS]

00:14:59   at this point and then you got you got [TS]

00:15:01   your doctor stockies you know maybe with [TS]

00:15:04   the pleated front of I know your family [TS]

00:15:05   pleaded from even before dockers existed [TS]

00:15:08   right i mean i'm thinking about nineteen [TS]

00:15:10   eighty-four whatever if you wanted to [TS]

00:15:12   grab your butt look good [TS]

00:15:13   what did you do I mean you could wear [TS]

00:15:15   Levi's if you have Levi's but but not [TS]

00:15:17   everybody has a Levi's but oh no oh no I [TS]

00:15:20   think jonathan richman his whole song [TS]

00:15:22   about this [TS]

00:15:23   oh well I mean it's about genes but i [TS]

00:15:25   think by extension it's about butts is [TS]

00:15:27   that you know we don't all have the kind [TS]

00:15:29   of but that one would want to show off [TS]

00:15:31   and i think a Levi's style pants [TS]

00:15:33   generally is a little bit more hanging [TS]

00:15:35   we're talking at this point 84 you're [TS]

00:15:38   really talking about the the twilight of [TS]

00:15:40   the Jordache and take over the [TS]

00:15:43   Vanderbilt gloria vanderbilt years [TS]

00:15:45   yeah sure live live in Britannia all [TS]

00:15:47   that stuff is about some high-waisted [TS]

00:15:48   jeans talking about a high waisted jean [TS]

00:15:51   it's a dark rinse and it's very but [TS]

00:15:54   centric and I think we're seeing the [TS]

00:15:56   twilight of the but pan at that point [TS]

00:15:58   but I always felt like those highways to [TS]

00:16:00   gloria vanderbilt jeans were like if [TS]

00:16:01   you're if you have a pair but if your [TS]

00:16:03   butt looks like a pair huh [TS]

00:16:05   then something I'm sorry just to clarify [TS]

00:16:07   because the audio single pair up i'm [TS]

00:16:10   sorry/not pair PA ir going up there the [TS]

00:16:14   bear fruit PE AR care if you're like [TS]

00:16:18   adults chin you got like a little bit of [TS]

00:16:20   up [TS]

00:16:21   yeah yeah okay right now I mean that if [TS]

00:16:22   it looks like a Bartlett pear let's say [TS]

00:16:24   right Barlow pair then you can wear [TS]

00:16:27   gloria vanderbilt jeans you look [TS]

00:16:28   fantastic little blue pair huh a denim [TS]

00:16:32   pair right one who doesn't want that but [TS]

00:16:34   if you have any kind of lumpy butt or [TS]

00:16:36   square but or whatever maybe get a plum [TS]

00:16:39   but or like a plum but now you can buy [TS]

00:16:43   you might have some kind of a [TS]

00:16:43   little-little who is a melon I don't [TS]

00:16:46   mean in the sense of like you know you [TS]

00:16:49   no pickup truck sighs I'm talking about [TS]

00:16:50   more like you've just gotta like a [TS]

00:16:52   misshapen cantaloupe [TS]

00:16:54   yeah regularly and with bumps and lumps [TS]

00:16:56   and stuff for your god I mean you don't [TS]

00:16:58   want your butt to look like it's in a [TS]

00:16:59   bag right so but then then one day and [TS]

00:17:05   that would happen in the late nineties [TS]

00:17:07   be seven for all mankind jeans arrived [TS]

00:17:11   which had some crazy technology which [TS]

00:17:15   are was all constructed in denim they [TS]

00:17:17   didn't there wasn't any it's not like [TS]

00:17:20   there was a wire underpinning but all of [TS]

00:17:24   a sudden seven for all mankind jeans [TS]

00:17:26   arrived and everyone could wear our [TS]

00:17:28   mentor i'm talking about women now [TS]

00:17:29   everyone could wear them and they look [TS]

00:17:31   great on everybody was just like what [TS]

00:17:34   happened why didn't we know how to do [TS]

00:17:35   this before they just ran their sewing [TS]

00:17:38   machines through this denim in a [TS]

00:17:39   slightly different way and now that they [TS]

00:17:41   look amazing on everything that's insane [TS]

00:17:43   it's like how he discovered flat iron [TS]

00:17:44   steak you start you can start cutting [TS]

00:17:46   the steer a different angle you get a [TS]

00:17:48   Dutch angle [TS]

00:17:49   and then you're able to find an entire [TS]

00:17:50   state nobody ever discovered before your [TS]

00:17:51   I've never heard of seven for all [TS]

00:17:52   mankind i'm looking at it now you're [TS]

00:17:54   telling me they came up with some kind [TS]

00:17:56   of technology that will enable you to [TS]

00:17:57   depending on a bias you're doing some [TS]

00:18:00   kind of verticality the kids a special [TS]

00:18:02   lift and gravitas [TS]

00:18:04   let's that's right that's right and then [TS]

00:18:06   yoga pants came out employing what i can [TS]

00:18:09   only imagine is the same technology [TS]

00:18:10   except in like stretchy sweat pants [TS]

00:18:13   material that then they I'm sure do [TS]

00:18:16   wicking they will play with the shit out [TS]

00:18:18   of you [TS]

00:18:19   I guess their primary performance [TS]

00:18:20   characteristic probably waking and yoga [TS]

00:18:23   pants look amazing on everybody and all [TS]

00:18:25   of a sudden it just made me feel like [TS]

00:18:27   all of all in all through my teen years [TS]

00:18:29   and twenties we didn't have this [TS]

00:18:31   technology and now we do and I think the [TS]

00:18:34   world has been improved huh [TS]

00:18:36   okay less less less stress even if [TS]

00:18:39   you're not wearing it all the time you [TS]

00:18:40   know it's out there it's like well says [TS]

00:18:43   and so today I that's where is that I [TS]

00:18:46   didn't it didn't take it took me a [TS]

00:18:48   second [TS]

00:18:48   oh yes just exactly like ninjas I walked [TS]

00:18:52   out of the house today i'm wearing [TS]

00:18:53   skinny jeans i'm a man in middle age [TS]

00:18:55   wearing these skinny jeans that are [TS]

00:18:58   basically leggings let's let's call a [TS]

00:19:01   spade a spade [TS]

00:19:02   i I just it's just like a cut the [TS]

00:19:04   stirrups off the bottom of Paris stirrup [TS]

00:19:06   pants and I'm walking around in them and [TS]

00:19:09   and I presume I look cool and I think [TS]

00:19:12   everybody agrees they look very cool [TS]

00:19:15   this is not this is not a thing that [TS]

00:19:17   would have been possible before [TS]

00:19:19   yeah right it's a kind of it's a kind of [TS]

00:19:21   technology that I have hardly embraced [TS]

00:19:24   can't believe how different genes can [TS]

00:19:26   feel your pants really just pants in [TS]

00:19:28   general and because first of all I mean [TS]

00:19:30   is this basic problem of my gosh where [TS]

00:19:32   to begin but there's a whole problem of [TS]

00:19:34   when you're doing a lot of like you know [TS]

00:19:36   when you've got children making pants in [TS]

00:19:38   Asia is going to be some variations so [TS]

00:19:41   like I learned a long time ago you [TS]

00:19:42   should actually try on a couple [TS]

00:19:43   different pairs even if it's just jeans [TS]

00:19:45   wow I've never done that that's it's not [TS]

00:19:47   a bad idea I've had some lady friends [TS]

00:19:48   that would never consider just certainly [TS]

00:19:51   not just buying them off the rack you [TS]

00:19:53   try them on your mattress several pairs [TS]

00:19:54   line but the less expensive fancier [TS]

00:19:56   clothes get the more likely are they are [TS]

00:19:58   to be like well made and consistently [TS]

00:20:00   made and to be true to size but let go [TS]

00:20:02   go look [TS]

00:20:02   sighs your pants now and not those pants [TS]

00:20:04   but your other pants you look at your [TS]

00:20:05   501 we talked about this [TS]

00:20:06   it might be hom Mexico it might be a cho [TS]

00:20:09   and in China you there's all kinds of [TS]

00:20:11   places where the HR jeans at this point [TS]

00:20:13   hmm you know and so the thing is you try [TS]

00:20:16   that on and the variations i mean i can [TS]

00:20:18   get pretty sloppy you can get you can [TS]

00:20:20   get some serious fruit but without even [TS]

00:20:22   intending well yeah I made a decision [TS]

00:20:25   not very long ago that i did not want to [TS]

00:20:28   buy anything anymore that was a cho in [TS]

00:20:32   China [TS]

00:20:32   Wow and it wasn't because i'm against [TS]

00:20:36   China it was just a decision that i [TS]

00:20:39   needed to i needed to just set some [TS]

00:20:41   limits on things right you need you need [TS]

00:20:44   to you need to define the space and [TS]

00:20:48   friends want to make these big sweeping [TS]

00:20:50   changes but like you can actually be [TS]

00:20:51   very profound to make a change even as [TS]

00:20:53   small as nature in China [TS]

00:20:54   yeah you just youyou you you defense off [TS]

00:20:57   the garden to keep the deer out and so [TS]

00:21:01   for me it was just like there's a lot of [TS]

00:21:03   stuff being made in China right now and [TS]

00:21:07   so if I just decide not to buy any of it [TS]

00:21:10   that protects me from too much just that [TS]

00:21:15   I mean it it it makes the first decision [TS]

00:21:18   for me it's already made nothing made in [TS]

00:21:21   china so thing shows up I look at it is [TS]

00:21:23   made in china no thank you [TS]

00:21:25   and it's just a way of sorting and then [TS]

00:21:29   and then I had to make some decisions [TS]

00:21:32   right because there's a lot of stuff [TS]

00:21:33   that says made in Hong Kong or made in [TS]

00:21:36   Macau uh-huh [TS]

00:21:38   now would you say that those were made [TS]

00:21:41   in China have to have to google it [TS]

00:21:43   are those are or no so what about the [TS]

00:21:46   one with the PRC or you got isn't there [TS]

00:21:49   to get the People's Republic oh you're [TS]

00:21:51   talk about Taiwan is that I want and [TS]

00:21:53   then you could have done that is that [TS]

00:21:54   technically part of China well and I [TS]

00:21:56   mean depending on who you ask if you ask [TS]

00:21:58   someone in china right they're going to [TS]

00:22:01   say that Taiwan is part of China but if [TS]

00:22:03   you have someone in taiwan they're going [TS]

00:22:05   to say no right no one is not part of [TS]

00:22:07   China it is its own but it's not exactly [TS]

00:22:09   the kind of thing that factor in your [TS]

00:22:11   decision you're scratching your head [TS]

00:22:12   wondering where this is HL well the [TS]

00:22:14   thing is I feel like it [TS]

00:22:16   in in my in my sort of worldview right i [TS]

00:22:19   support taiwan because they have decided [TS]

00:22:24   that they're not part of China and I [TS]

00:22:25   support them [TS]

00:22:26   china deciding that Taiwan is still part [TS]

00:22:29   of China if they just are currently [TS]

00:22:31   administered by a by a rogue government [TS]

00:22:35   I don't support that because you simply [TS]

00:22:37   because i think China is big enough and [TS]

00:22:40   Taiwan can be its own thing it should be [TS]

00:22:42   its own thing it's something I in fact I [TS]

00:22:44   have a good friend whose families from [TS]

00:22:46   taiwan and he is feel strongly about it [TS]

00:22:49   and so I support my friend now [TS]

00:22:52   Macau and Hong Kong both were their own [TS]

00:22:59   colonies right hong kong was a colony of [TS]

00:23:03   the United Kingdom and Macau is a colony [TS]

00:23:06   of Portugal and they were like they were [TS]

00:23:09   like city city states where they you [TS]

00:23:15   know I think macau was big in the opium [TS]

00:23:17   trade and you know gambling they were [TS]

00:23:20   like sin city's hong kong was more of an [TS]

00:23:23   administrative city after a while the [TS]

00:23:26   brits used it to administer their [TS]

00:23:27   long-term far-flung Empire huh [TS]

00:23:31   but then times changed and in in the [TS]

00:23:36   late nineties are the whenever's the [TS]

00:23:39   nineties both of those things so this is [TS]

00:23:41   what's crazy to me they were basically [TS]

00:23:45   least like it's one of those 99-year [TS]

00:23:47   leases where you sign a 99-year lease [TS]

00:23:49   and you're like when I'm gonna be dead [TS]

00:23:51   before this lease expires [TS]

00:23:53   what is what even is a 99-year lease [TS]

00:23:56   well that's one of those things like a [TS]

00:23:58   Steve Jobs a dollar a year that kind of [TS]

00:24:00   thing [TS]

00:24:00   well i got i know a guy here i used to [TS]

00:24:02   live in a building like an old warehouse [TS]

00:24:04   here where the guy who owned it didn't [TS]

00:24:08   really own it he had a 99-year lease and [TS]

00:24:12   he was he was saving area I mean he was [TS]

00:24:15   he fixed up the building just enough [TS]

00:24:17   that it could inhabit people and then it [TS]

00:24:20   was just like a rent generator for him [TS]

00:24:22   he couldn't I don't think we develop the [TS]

00:24:26   property and he could maybe subs [TS]

00:24:29   LOL his lease i'm not really sure 99 [TS]

00:24:32   year lease I mean he's going to be dead [TS]

00:24:33   long time before that but he has this [TS]

00:24:37   99-year lease on the thing so anyway the [TS]

00:24:40   Great Britain and Portugal had these [TS]

00:24:41   leases of these cities and one day they [TS]

00:24:44   came up they come came up in China was [TS]

00:24:47   like we don't renew your lease or [TS]

00:24:48   whatever and the last vestige of that [TS]

00:24:52   brand of colonialism and so both cities [TS]

00:24:55   hong kong and macau returned to the [TS]

00:24:58   return to China and they're like a [TS]

00:25:01   special administration area one of those [TS]

00:25:04   things so you pick up a shirt and it [TS]

00:25:08   says made in Macau and you go out at [TS]

00:25:10   least it's not made in china and then [TS]

00:25:12   you go wait a minute that's just that [TS]

00:25:15   some label trickery [TS]

00:25:17   uh huh yeah you look at your phone and [TS]

00:25:20   it will say you know so worried like an [TS]

00:25:22   apple devices will frequently say [TS]

00:25:23   something like designing California [TS]

00:25:25   movie babilona yeah kinda made a stoner [TS]

00:25:30   assembled assembled in austin mhm [TS]

00:25:33   assembled in austin i don't know why but [TS]

00:25:36   they they used to say it used to say you [TS]

00:25:39   know everything you tell it's made in [TS]

00:25:40   America thinking well it's but there's [TS]

00:25:43   real switcheroo because there's some [TS]

00:25:44   parts that come from here and there gets [TS]

00:25:46   made in china and then it comes back [TS]

00:25:48   here and I don't think they polish it [TS]

00:25:50   here or something to put in the box i'm [TS]

00:25:51   not sure [TS]

00:25:52   yeah it's funny when you buy when you [TS]

00:25:53   buy i just got my lady and I felt for [TS]

00:25:56   her birthday and you'll see it's when it [TS]

00:25:59   ships out of shells n so it's called the [TS]

00:26:02   segment goes to Hong Kong and then make [TS]

00:26:04   the big jump to ontario california but [TS]

00:26:06   yeah you'll see that it's coming is [TS]

00:26:08   coming right out of China [TS]

00:26:09   I don't know what's amazing i think [TS]

00:26:11   about Hong Kong and Macau is that they [TS]

00:26:13   both are they both somehow have kept one [TS]

00:26:16   foot in the capitalist world cow was [TS]

00:26:20   Blake's they still gamble there it's [TS]

00:26:22   like a James Bond town everything is a [TS]

00:26:26   popular pastime in my neighborhood [TS]

00:26:28   oh right the plan mahjongg there's [TS]

00:26:31   mahjong there's mahjong fronts and there [TS]

00:26:35   are places that are nominally you know [TS]

00:26:37   bodega style convenience type stores [TS]

00:26:40   that's basically it's just six [TS]

00:26:43   elderly Chinese guys staring at Aquino [TS]

00:26:45   screen when you say when you say mahjong [TS]

00:26:49   front do you mean like people get a new [TS]

00:26:51   set of teeth but they're made out of [TS]

00:26:53   mahjong tiles [TS]

00:26:54   yes it's not a chinese bridge not to be [TS]

00:26:57   confused with contract bridge [TS]

00:26:58   according to Hoyle now just totally [TS]

00:27:00   different thing now [TS]

00:27:01   no but that's a that's a I think [TS]

00:27:03   gambling i think gambling is a big [TS]

00:27:05   cultural thing in am I I can't say that [TS]

00:27:09   for all of China China's a very big [TS]

00:27:10   country but there are a lot of Chinese [TS]

00:27:12   old especially older chinese guys and my [TS]

00:27:14   neighborhood really are any camera and [TS]

00:27:16   the young folks do they play a lot of [TS]

00:27:17   cards if I just cards on the street all [TS]

00:27:19   the time [TS]

00:27:19   I mean this might be happening in other [TS]

00:27:21   neighborhoods I can only speak from my [TS]

00:27:22   own but so I don't know anything about [TS]

00:27:24   macau I don't think I know anything [TS]

00:27:26   about the cow [TS]

00:27:27   yeah yeah watching that documentary [TS]

00:27:28   about the Indonesian genocide I think [TS]

00:27:30   they were a Portuguese what Protectorate [TS]

00:27:34   colony calling all the colony [TS]

00:27:36   yeah account look at that yeah you know [TS]

00:27:38   the Portuguese had a strange man strange [TS]

00:27:41   little Empire they were big ship people [TS]

00:27:43   right [TS]

00:27:44   they had a lot of ships yeah my [TS]

00:27:46   experience in Portugal which is I mean [TS]

00:27:49   not the world's most extensive [TS]

00:27:50   experience but I've spent a good goodly [TS]

00:27:52   amount of time in Portugal more than I [TS]

00:27:55   ever expected I would do and you know [TS]

00:27:57   the I think the tendency for us here in [TS]

00:28:00   the United States is to think that [TS]

00:28:01   Portugal is I don't know some flange of [TS]

00:28:05   Spain yes like it's like spain jr but [TS]

00:28:08   when you get to Portugal you realize [TS]

00:28:10   that they really are different from the [TS]

00:28:12   Spanish they look different they act [TS]

00:28:14   different they are they are different [TS]

00:28:17   and it's because they like hug this wild [TS]

00:28:21   Atlantic coast and they just look [TS]

00:28:23   they're more rugged mm-hmm [TS]

00:28:26   and what if you ever want to know [TS]

00:28:28   there's a difference just ask a [TS]

00:28:29   Portuguese person who I'll see that's [TS]

00:28:30   the thing if you ask a Spanish person [TS]

00:28:32   they're going to say that there's no [TS]

00:28:33   difference but if you ask a Portuguese [TS]

00:28:35   person it's kind of like Portugal is the [TS]

00:28:37   taiwan of of Spain cowboy and well you [TS]

00:28:41   know in Rhode Island where my ladies [TS]

00:28:42   from there are a lot of Portuguese [TS]

00:28:44   people and I mean it really confuses the [TS]

00:28:46   culture that's where they're very i hope [TS]

00:28:49   this isn't too ping pong but they're [TS]

00:28:50   very they're garrulous like very [TS]

00:28:52   outgoing are very emotional people and [TS]

00:28:55   it's [TS]

00:28:56   it's kind of a fun vibe yeah wait for [TS]

00:28:58   these food and I'm not so crazy they [TS]

00:29:00   don't want a greasy fish there [TS]

00:29:02   yeah and it's sort of like the Basques [TS]

00:29:04   the Basque love a greasy fish it because [TS]

00:29:08   it keeps their keep their pelts really [TS]

00:29:11   soft anything told knows that that's [TS]

00:29:14   that's good right [TS]

00:29:15   I just recently met a person of Basque [TS]

00:29:19   extraction and it caused me to think [TS]

00:29:22   about you know a new friend and they [TS]

00:29:25   caused me to [TS]

00:29:26   I've also spent some time in basque [TS]

00:29:29   country and i and i love it there and [TS]

00:29:31   but i but then i was like wait a minute [TS]

00:29:34   what the Basques do in World War two [TS]

00:29:38   I have a pretty good sense of what [TS]

00:29:39   everybody did during World War Two and I [TS]

00:29:42   I treat people from European countries [TS]

00:29:45   differently based on what my [TS]

00:29:46   preconceived notion of what their [TS]

00:29:48   grandfather did in World War two is [TS]

00:29:50   right i kind of like oh hello nice to [TS]

00:29:53   meet you [TS]

00:29:53   I know what your grandfather did in [TS]

00:29:55   World War two don't try and Buffalo me [TS]

00:29:57   mr. i know what your grand like a [TS]

00:30:00   terrible or movie had fun with work to [TS]

00:30:03   you know it's one of those things where [TS]

00:30:05   it's like you go into somebody's house [TS]

00:30:07   and that you know what what people's [TS]

00:30:09   grandfather's in Bavaria did in World [TS]

00:30:11   War two is very different than what [TS]

00:30:13   people grandfather's in the amber too [TS]

00:30:14   much so much to say about this i'm [TS]

00:30:16   looking at the page about Basque so [TS]

00:30:17   baskets kinda like it's a little bit [TS]

00:30:19   Spain little bit France little bit [TS]

00:30:20   country little bit rock and roll yet so [TS]

00:30:22   that it goes up into France it goes down [TS]

00:30:24   into Spain and there you know and they [TS]

00:30:26   kind of consider themselves as sort of a [TS]

00:30:28   single tribe except you know the French [TS]

00:30:30   Basques obviously her i'll say gracious [TS]

00:30:32   loyal it was a Basque that's exactly [TS]

00:30:35   right and he founded the Jesuits so the [TS]

00:30:38   Basques you know very separate group of [TS]

00:30:40   people their languages is to linguists [TS]

00:30:43   it has no like analog in any other [TS]

00:30:47   language in the world it is not an [TS]

00:30:49   indo-european language it is a cookie [TS]

00:30:52   why language that someone one day [TS]

00:30:54   invented who lived up in the in the [TS]

00:30:57   crazy Hills in northern Spain and I no [TS]

00:31:00   one knows where it came from and no one [TS]

00:31:02   it it doesn't behave like other [TS]

00:31:03   languages [TS]

00:31:04   it's a little bit you know it has it's [TS]

00:31:07   one of those things where it's like [TS]

00:31:08   well finish there's some there's some [TS]

00:31:12   crazy aspect of finish like her go [TS]

00:31:16   Hungarian languages which are similar to [TS]

00:31:18   Japanese and really and nobody can [TS]

00:31:21   understand how that's one reason I find [TS]

00:31:22   Portuguese so interesting that up uh [TS]

00:31:24   ruin my roommate for a while and [TS]

00:31:26   military school was from portugal and [TS]

00:31:28   when he would speak you know you hear on [TS]

00:31:30   the phone talking to his family and he [TS]

00:31:32   never spoke it you know there weren't a [TS]

00:31:33   lot of Portuguese kids there but one out [TS]

00:31:34   here I always said was so strange [TS]

00:31:36   because it sounded to my twelve-year-old [TS]

00:31:38   here [TS]

00:31:39   it sounded almost exactly like a cross [TS]

00:31:41   between spanish and german it had a lot [TS]

00:31:43   of that group of the glottal kind of you [TS]

00:31:45   know gotta roll filled up German but [TS]

00:31:47   also the kind of like that little thing [TS]

00:31:48   romance feel of spanish i feel like the [TS]

00:31:51   gutter reality of Portuguese developed [TS]

00:31:55   because they were shouting at each other [TS]

00:31:56   across the deck of a ship that was in a [TS]

00:31:58   storm [TS]

00:31:59   I said that you know that i think they [TS]

00:32:01   call it an adaptation with no answer key [TS]

00:32:02   so call evolution [TS]

00:32:03   Yeah right right right right yes because [TS]

00:32:06   if you just if you you're not gonna be [TS]

00:32:07   up there you know you know this is why [TS]

00:32:09   the Italians never c never sailed is [TS]

00:32:11   because it was too hard for them to yell [TS]

00:32:12   over the wind it's not about selling a [TS]

00:32:14   poem rights right that's why the [TS]

00:32:16   Italians uh yeah they days whether it's [TS]

00:32:19   like an unlocked [TS]

00:32:20   they just stayed in Italy and they never [TS]

00:32:21   got in boats because they didn't want it [TS]

00:32:23   because their language which she was [TS]

00:32:25   John about the you know what you know [TS]

00:32:29   what it's shaped like a boat that shaped [TS]

00:32:31   like a boot that's true i think that's a [TS]

00:32:33   really good point but I but so the [TS]

00:32:35   Basques that you know that their [TS]

00:32:37   territory is very mountainous and if you [TS]

00:32:40   were trying to invade and conquer those [TS]

00:32:43   people you would fail which is why they [TS]

00:32:45   did not they were not conquered they got [TS]

00:32:47   two things go on their side they got a [TS]

00:32:48   language were no it's like Stonehenge [TS]

00:32:50   nobody knows where it came from and then [TS]

00:32:52   you've also got the mountains united [TS]

00:32:54   nations against any kind of a attack you [TS]

00:32:56   can't get in can't get out and then when [TS]

00:32:58   you get there it's hard to ask for [TS]

00:32:59   directions because we like you know from [TS]

00:33:00   here [TS]

00:33:01   that's right you're not speaking the [TS]

00:33:02   this and unintelligible language you can [TS]

00:33:03   even learn it's like Navajo code talker [TS]

00:33:05   you how many a pastor on united states [TS]

00:33:08   well you know what i do i do know one [TS]

00:33:10   thing about the Basques in the United [TS]

00:33:11   States which is that they settled in [TS]

00:33:13   idaho what the bellaire 57,000 793 [TS]

00:33:17   according to wikipedia and but 193 well [TS]

00:33:20   as we don't come [TS]

00:33:21   but never like that accidentally [TS]

00:33:22   somebody had to see where that came from [TS]

00:33:25   I think that my friend who is a basket [TS]

00:33:27   got in here unbeknownst to wikipedia and [TS]

00:33:30   she doesn't she's not be encountered in [TS]

00:33:32   that figure because she because there [TS]

00:33:34   was an intermediary relationship where [TS]

00:33:36   she lived in knowing John no one knows [TS]

00:33:38   how to ask her [TS]

00:33:40   probably well that's right what do you [TS]

00:33:41   what do you say like I mean not [TS]

00:33:43   everybody that comes into the country [TS]

00:33:45   gets asked i I've gone through customs [TS]

00:33:47   enough times to know that they don't ask [TS]

00:33:48   if you're Basque well-known they might [TS]

00:33:51   misunderstand think your last name is [TS]

00:33:53   actually the city are from make a chalk [TS]

00:33:54   mark on your tagged and put in [TS]

00:33:55   quarantine I'll see exactly right and [TS]

00:33:57   then all of a sudden you're walking [TS]

00:33:58   around Corleone here but that's right [TS]

00:34:01   that's right yeah so a but i'll but i [TS]

00:34:03   love that part of the world and they eat [TS]

00:34:05   a lot of greasy fish but that's [TS]

00:34:07   delicious wonderful i did I used to [TS]

00:34:09   think I was not a greasy fish guy but [TS]

00:34:11   then i had had some sardines in other [TS]

00:34:15   categories your bow [TS]

00:34:17   yeah you know like like the the herring [TS]

00:34:19   the herrings from the herring family and [TS]

00:34:22   they're just laying out these gigantic [TS]

00:34:24   Greece fish and like I hope you like [TS]

00:34:28   these and I I was like Hello [TS]

00:34:30   but then i am and i said i do like them [TS]

00:34:33   I understand what you're doing up here [TS]

00:34:34   in bilbao I get it now but that but what [TS]

00:34:38   I didn't know was what their [TS]

00:34:39   grandfathers did in World War two and so [TS]

00:34:42   I started a little bit of i started [TS]

00:34:44   rabbit holding as you do about Fresno no [TS]

00:34:47   I rabbit hole about friends know this [TS]

00:34:49   morning but I rabbit hold about the [TS]

00:34:50   Basques in World War two the morning [TS]

00:34:52   trying to figure out a fortune for [TS]

00:34:53   carpenters gay [TS]

00:34:54   what did you come up with I'm like maybe [TS]

00:34:56   a third of the way in right it's one [TS]

00:34:58   that's not super clear this and I feel [TS]

00:35:00   like that's where I am with the Basques [TS]

00:35:01   in world war two and a third of the way [TS]

00:35:02   and okay i figured out you know because [TS]

00:35:05   the thing is that there is that whole [TS]

00:35:06   business right spain was we get the get [TS]

00:35:09   the get the fascist right there just [TS]

00:35:12   coming off the the big war in the [TS]

00:35:13   thirties that's right but there [TS]

00:35:15   ostensibly neutral in the war and a lot [TS]

00:35:18   of Allied Pilots that got shot down over [TS]

00:35:20   France did that the French underground [TS]

00:35:22   would take them down hand them over to [TS]

00:35:24   the Basques the Basques would get them [TS]

00:35:27   across into Spain and then the [TS]

00:35:29   neutrality of of Spain would allow those [TS]

00:35:33   pilots to find their way back [TS]

00:35:34   come even though the Spanish were pretty [TS]

00:35:37   allied with the Nazis but there was [TS]

00:35:40   enough of a you know they would they be [TS]

00:35:41   maintained enough of a sort of like [TS]

00:35:43   neutral posture that Allied Pilots could [TS]

00:35:45   get over there and then I realized that [TS]

00:35:48   neighboring the basque country is a is [TS]

00:35:53   the hollandaise sauce County oh that [TS]

00:35:59   Belgium know it's a burn burn bear you [TS]

00:36:01   no bare knees are barren that's [TS]

00:36:04   excellent [TS]

00:36:05   well no it's it's this it's like the [TS]

00:36:07   coming holidays is not from Dutch no [TS]

00:36:09   that's what's amazing about its of me [TS]

00:36:11   I'm branch that's and and that then this [TS]

00:36:14   Bearnaise so I don't think the sauce is [TS]

00:36:18   actually from Baron what about béchamel [TS]

00:36:20   where's that from [TS]

00:36:21   I'm sure they're all from France there [TS]

00:36:22   there were no sausage before friends is [TS]

00:36:25   that right [TS]

00:36:26   there's all their idea before that [TS]

00:36:27   people only had dry drying meets yeah it [TS]

00:36:30   probably is probably boiled vegetables [TS]

00:36:32   yeah they thought no thought of sauce [TS]

00:36:33   they put it put everything in a pot [TS]

00:36:35   boiled it through some salt and some [TS]

00:36:37   dirt in that was one on Z and then the [TS]

00:36:41   French were like what if we made an [TS]

00:36:42   emulsification of mayonnaise and through [TS]

00:36:45   like some tarragon in it and then the [TS]

00:36:49   world was forever changed em but all [TS]

00:36:53   those sauces i think i think they did [TS]

00:36:55   they came from the north but they were [TS]

00:36:56   called the they named it [TS]

00:36:58   béarnaise because they don't know [TS]

00:37:00   because it was they were doing somebody [TS]

00:37:02   an honor right like oh you're from Baron [TS]

00:37:05   we're going to name it béarnaise your [TS]

00:37:07   name is sauce for you and there's a [TS]

00:37:10   marshal of France but they're called the [TS]

00:37:12   God sauces I stand corrected it's the [TS]

00:37:14   mother sauces mother sauces sasa [TS]

00:37:16   associate mommy air you've got the best [TS]

00:37:19   email you got s spy spagnoli it's got it [TS]

00:37:25   only ESP hele and I've ever heard that [TS]

00:37:29   holidays to tomahto and veloute oh [TS]

00:37:32   that's the mother sauces and so a new [TS]

00:37:34   mommy Oh mommy I think that's the one on [TS]

00:37:36   the back of the tongue that the Japanese [TS]

00:37:38   discovered yeah we struggle at all with [TS]

00:37:40   these distinctions with your daughter [TS]

00:37:42   she characters my daughter is is really [TS]

00:37:45   becoming a very profound cultural critic [TS]

00:37:48   she has no idea what she's talking about [TS]

00:37:49   your waiver of songs now no sauce is [TS]

00:37:52   lots always challenging she must like a [TS]

00:37:54   little bit of butter but not too much [TS]

00:37:55   but when it comes to like she almost [TS]

00:37:57   exactly always exactly gets japanese and [TS]

00:38:00   chinese things confused she thinks anime [TS]

00:38:03   is from China and she and she thinks [TS]

00:38:05   that did you know the stuff we got from [TS]

00:38:06   chinese restaurants Japanese oh IC uh [TS]

00:38:09   the Marlins pretty I think she can hang [TS]

00:38:13   with the fact that there are she's just [TS]

00:38:16   learning about there being people from [TS]

00:38:18   all around because she's grown up in a [TS]

00:38:20   culture where there were kids of every [TS]

00:38:23   kind of race ethnicity around her so she [TS]

00:38:25   never she didn't understand that there [TS]

00:38:28   was any difference between people just [TS]

00:38:29   based on their color or she doesn't [TS]

00:38:32   think that there is and but she does [TS]

00:38:36   appreciate the people are speaking [TS]

00:38:37   different languages right which he [TS]

00:38:39   thinks is fascinating and she's just at [TS]

00:38:42   the age where she's starting to kind of [TS]

00:38:43   try and imitate them which you know what [TS]

00:38:45   it's like [TS]

00:38:46   well that's as do that are inside voice [TS]

00:38:49   yeah that's fun that's fun to do but [TS]

00:38:51   it's also an inside voice thing and the [TS]

00:38:53   other day she was wearing she's wearing [TS]

00:38:55   black pants and a black shirt and she [TS]

00:38:57   was running around saying I'm a black [TS]

00:38:58   girl I'm a black girl and it was like [TS]

00:39:02   that's exactly what you are and yet [TS]

00:39:05   that's not a thing that we can shout at [TS]

00:39:07   the mall and so that you know we're [TS]

00:39:11   right at the stage where I don't want to [TS]

00:39:12   get into her little mind and start [TS]

00:39:14   filling it with all of our adult human [TS]

00:39:16   like anger and frustration and bullshit [TS]

00:39:19   right now I totally that's part of the [TS]

00:39:21   struggle [TS]

00:39:22   yeah i think you mean alsace-lorraine I [TS]

00:39:24   mean when we're in when we're in [TS]

00:39:26   chinatown in their people speaking [TS]

00:39:27   Chinese all around us and my [TS]

00:39:29   four-year-old goes Jeong Jeong I go I I [TS]

00:39:35   uh I don't want this I don't want to [TS]

00:39:38   start right yet like stomping on your [TS]

00:39:43   enthusiasm with our like intermediary [TS]

00:39:47   problems you know I don't want to lean [TS]

00:39:49   down and say say anything but I also [TS]

00:39:53   don't want her to like you know the [TS]

00:39:56   better their ninety-nine percent of the [TS]

00:39:58   people in chinatown are going to give a [TS]

00:40:00   shit and they're gonna think it's cute [TS]

00:40:01   and funny but there's always gonna be [TS]

00:40:02   somebody who has their up often since [TS]

00:40:06   Apple it's on [TS]

00:40:09   I did but it is also always fun to hear [TS]

00:40:11   like if you asked anybody this is not [TS]

00:40:13   something you would you would probably [TS]

00:40:14   do it south by southwest or maybe you [TS]

00:40:16   would do this XOXO but you can see that [TS]

00:40:18   somebody like what is its what is a [TS]

00:40:19   Vietnamese written language styling was [TS]

00:40:23   German sound like or any of those you [TS]

00:40:25   know you just imitate a Canadian person [TS]

00:40:26   was fascinating though is to hear people [TS]

00:40:28   in other countries doing what they think [TS]

00:40:30   an American accent sounds like yeah and [TS]

00:40:32   you realize like how how dominant uni [TS]

00:40:35   and weird we sound well I've never told [TS]

00:40:38   that story about the when i was at [TS]

00:40:41   Gonzaga a good friend of mine had a [TS]

00:40:43   roommate who was from Japan and who was [TS]

00:40:45   learning English sort of in college and [TS]

00:40:49   a bright guy na like a he was a great a [TS]

00:40:53   great guy and ended up being a really [TS]

00:40:55   good friend but when he first arrived he [TS]

00:40:59   knew I think he knew more English than [TS]

00:41:02   he was comfortable speaking but he did [TS]

00:41:04   not really speak English and so after a [TS]

00:41:07   while of a kind of hanging out and and [TS]

00:41:09   introducing him to american beer and so [TS]

00:41:12   forth [TS]

00:41:13   one of us one of us said I think it was [TS]

00:41:18   my friend Bob said when you are in japan [TS]

00:41:20   and talking to Japanese friends how do [TS]

00:41:22   you imitate Americans like what do [TS]

00:41:24   Americans sound like and he was like [TS]

00:41:25   what are you talking about was we had to [TS]

00:41:27   explain like what it was and by way of [TS]

00:41:30   explanation way we said you know when we [TS]

00:41:33   imitate Japanese are like also chung [TS]

00:41:35   talking or whatever right and he was he [TS]

00:41:39   like you can see the light bulb go off [TS]

00:41:41   and he was like all right I get it and [TS]

00:41:43   he likes to do with his feet apart wide [TS]

00:41:47   apart wide stance [TS]

00:41:48   and he said I'm gonna bang bang bang [TS]

00:41:51   bang and we were like oh and we all got [TS]

00:41:55   really sad isn't exactly what you don't [TS]

00:41:58   want to hear ya we slide back in our in [TS]

00:42:01   our like Randy couches we're like a [TS]

00:42:03   hamburger hamburger bang bang Chicago [TS]

00:42:05   bank don't know that's the worst are we [TS]

00:42:09   that bad [TS]

00:42:10   oh no it's miserable uh ah so and I [TS]

00:42:15   think that that's still true i think [TS]

00:42:16   that in the majority of America the [TS]

00:42:18   world were just hamburger hamburger bang [TS]

00:42:20   bang [TS]

00:42:20   I think you're probably right that you [TS]

00:42:22   like 4s espagnole sauce [TS]

00:42:24   oh my goodness i think this might be our [TS]

00:42:26   our gravy so what happens in espagnole [TS]

00:42:28   sauce [TS]

00:42:28   alright let's look at this is all your [TS]

00:42:30   ass but no way it's just look at this [TS]

00:42:33   photo of of beef in this brown gravy [TS]

00:42:35   with a side of like steak fries [TS]

00:42:37   what am I doing here why am I sitting in [TS]

00:42:39   this cold also sitting here looking at [TS]

00:42:41   this [TS]

00:42:41   your boys are freezing beef in brown [TS]

00:42:45   gravy [TS]

00:42:46   oh look at that went to importance last [TS]

00:42:48   night oh good for you how to go went [TS]

00:42:51   great i mean you know you go to morton's [TS]

00:42:54   and and you basically like it's like [TS]

00:42:57   you're stewing in Frank Sinatra right [TS]

00:42:59   there's Frank Sinatra on the stereo and [TS]

00:43:01   then they bring out a plate and it's [TS]

00:43:03   basically like half of Frank Sinatra [TS]

00:43:04   hosts fingers in my hair but it's an [TS]

00:43:10   honor it's another Frank Sinatra he [TS]

00:43:13   pissed on my fucking head and it wasn't [TS]

00:43:16   on fucked my wife right on the bar you [TS]

00:43:21   know that but should be frank yes I can [TS]

00:43:24   if frank says I can sew in detail you [TS]

00:43:28   want you had a big steak [TS]

00:43:29   yeah a big stick it was good but you [TS]

00:43:31   know i'm suffering a little bit of the [TS]

00:43:32   consequences today because yeah [TS]

00:43:34   basically I you know I hate a cat and [TS]

00:43:37   now I'm i'm walking around it's like it [TS]

00:43:40   was Halloween too and i haven't even [TS]

00:43:42   eating sugar for a while and you know if [TS]

00:43:45   you get anyone Eminem the cravings come [TS]

00:43:48   back right and then you need to you need [TS]

00:43:50   to go to the methadone clinic because [TS]

00:43:51   just like oh my god I had some sugar and [TS]

00:43:54   there's this giant bowl of reese's [TS]

00:43:55   peanut butter cups and what can I did [TS]

00:43:58   you know I'm trapped in the house all [TS]

00:44:00   method for candy [TS]

00:44:01   let's say hit rock bottom as a candy [TS]

00:44:04   user like what do you think what kind of [TS]

00:44:06   clinic would you go to what they give [TS]

00:44:07   you [TS]

00:44:07   splenda oh yeah i think they would just [TS]

00:44:10   give you shitty candy they give you like [TS]

00:44:12   licorice the but you know I i had an [TS]

00:44:16   interesting conversation with my mom the [TS]

00:44:17   other day where she said you used to it [TS]

00:44:21   so you know you have to have talked [TS]

00:44:23   about my shoebox full of money [TS]

00:44:25   yeah but according to my mom i also had [TS]

00:44:28   a giant bag of candy when people would [TS]

00:44:33   want you know all the candy holidays [TS]

00:44:36   which are kind of all the holidays [TS]

00:44:38   except fourth of July they're all candy [TS]

00:44:39   holidays and she said you would hoard [TS]

00:44:42   your candy you wouldn't eat it and I was [TS]

00:44:46   like that sounds like me she said but [TS]

00:44:48   you would you kept this candy in a bag [TS]

00:44:51   and you would bring neighborhood kids in [TS]

00:44:54   you never take the candy bag out of the [TS]

00:44:56   house you'd bring neighborhood kids in [TS]

00:44:58   and you would give them a choice of [TS]

00:45:00   their favorite candy out of the bag if [TS]

00:45:04   they would blank like you would bribe [TS]

00:45:08   and manipulate the neighborhood kids [TS]

00:45:10   into doing what you wanted by promising [TS]

00:45:13   them a selection from your candy horde [TS]

00:45:15   and I was like what I sound I sound like [TS]

00:45:19   a fucking diabolical monster child [TS]

00:45:22   yeah you sound like a like a like a [TS]

00:45:23   super billionaire and she was like [TS]

00:45:25   that's right and so I have and so then [TS]

00:45:29   it started to like memory started to [TS]

00:45:31   flood back of my candy stash which was [TS]

00:45:36   full of all the candy that I didn't [TS]

00:45:37   actually person i mean i would eat all [TS]

00:45:39   the fucking chocolate right away but [TS]

00:45:40   then I had all the garbage candy the [TS]

00:45:43   smarties and the licorice in that Mike [TS]

00:45:46   and Ikes and all that stuff I didn't [TS]

00:45:49   care about Necco wafers yeah like just [TS]

00:45:51   shit candy that they give to people and [TS]

00:45:54   I would just hoard it and then offer [TS]

00:45:57   this offer these like beads two kids for [TS]

00:46:02   their Manhattan islands [TS]

00:46:04   oh yeah I shall require you to do a [TS]

00:46:06   fancy dance for me [TS]

00:46:07   that's right or like oh here's here's [TS]

00:46:10   here nave here's the [TS]

00:46:12   game here's the game today you are going [TS]

00:46:14   to be a dog and i am going to be a dog [TS]

00:46:17   killer and the kids would be like I [TS]

00:46:18   don't want to be a dog again and I'd be [TS]

00:46:20   like why don't you come in and have a [TS]

00:46:21   Necco wafer and then maybe like okay and [TS]

00:46:26   then be like that's right now [TS]

00:46:28   now i'm going to sit on my throne and [TS]

00:46:29   you sit here next to my throne and if [TS]

00:46:32   anybody comes you attack so I that sub [TS]

00:46:36   that makes me sound like a sicko from a [TS]

00:46:38   young age that happened and then my mom [TS]

00:46:41   confirmed that she thought I was a [TS]

00:46:43   psycho that this was not a childlike [TS]

00:46:45   behavior but she didn't somehow she [TS]

00:46:48   didn't like getting a doctor or anything [TS]

00:46:50   well not as far as i know not until [TS]

00:46:52   later but you know I my daughter has [TS]

00:46:58   what appears to be very little impulse [TS]

00:47:00   control like when we go places where [TS]

00:47:03   there's a buffet [TS]

00:47:04   she just pieces in front of the buffet [TS]

00:47:06   just trolling it hoping that someone [TS]

00:47:08   will give her a shrimp you know and I'm [TS]

00:47:12   like get away from the buffet you're [TS]

00:47:14   freaking people out and she's like but [TS]

00:47:15   all I could all the food and i'm like i [TS]

00:47:17   see it you've already eaten enough food [TS]

00:47:19   for 74 year olds today sheet a lot she [TS]

00:47:22   just she did would never stop eating [TS]

00:47:24   money if i put if I put a a trough of [TS]

00:47:28   four-year-old kibble four-year-old child [TS]

00:47:31   by purina right if I put it there in [TS]

00:47:34   front of her room she would just you [TS]

00:47:35   just forage all day she's fascinating my [TS]

00:47:38   kid is not a big eater [TS]

00:47:40   she's going straight she's a canon [TS]

00:47:42   lawyer she's always looking for like [TS]

00:47:43   what do I need to negotiate to get a [TS]

00:47:45   little more TV a little bit more candy [TS]

00:47:46   but she does not eat a lot of like [TS]

00:47:48   normal food but your kindle elite like [TS]

00:47:50   what kind of stuff like what if she had [TS]

00:47:51   rather what she also just the just kid [TS]

00:47:55   shit even macaroni Dogg hott Dogg's a [TS]

00:47:58   grilled cheese sandwiches because school [TS]

00:48:01   Betty she likes she likes something [TS]

00:48:03   Betty White if my daughter you know we [TS]

00:48:06   talked about i believe i've had this [TS]

00:48:07   fantasy of somebody having a great [TS]

00:48:09   machine in my house like I think if she [TS]

00:48:11   could have you know some people have [TS]

00:48:12   draft beer if she could have draft [TS]

00:48:14   noodles [TS]

00:48:15   I think she would just be pulling on [TS]

00:48:16   glass noodles all the time I feel like I [TS]

00:48:18   feel like that would be true of mine too [TS]

00:48:19   and so but but she's trolling the buffet [TS]

00:48:23   I don't know what she's looking for [TS]

00:48:25   apes like what does she think is up [TS]

00:48:28   there but she just want you know she's [TS]

00:48:31   you know she gives the like the this [TS]

00:48:33   poor street urchin eyeballs to all the [TS]

00:48:37   adults walking by like no one has been [TS]

00:48:39   using little look at the Kenzie and [TS]

00:48:41   character gotta have more grills and and [TS]

00:48:45   so people are like I mean I think we [TS]

00:48:47   passed the point where any adult would [TS]

00:48:50   feed a strange child from their hands [TS]

00:48:53   right when they look around like where [TS]

00:48:55   is this child's parent and why she [TS]

00:48:57   trolling the buffet like so that's what [TS]

00:48:59   I say to her like you're making people [TS]

00:49:00   nervous [TS]

00:49:01   come over here and sit with your family [TS]

00:49:02   and she's just like as soon as soon as [TS]

00:49:05   you're not watching her she's back over [TS]

00:49:07   like like it like that sharks swimming [TS]

00:49:10   in front of the a beach covered with [TS]

00:49:12   bathers and I go I like what is that [TS]

00:49:17   but she does not seem like somebody [TS]

00:49:19   who's going to hoard candy in a bag in [TS]

00:49:22   order to manipulate other kids and I [TS]

00:49:24   can't tell whether that's an evolution [TS]

00:49:26   of the family like a sort of John [TS]

00:49:28   Syracuse's style and the way he looks at [TS]

00:49:30   evolution right yeah just sort of like [TS]

00:49:31   where people see a thing and then they [TS]

00:49:34   they change the ball and evolve and [TS]

00:49:37   evolution yes or whether it is where the [TS]

00:49:41   weather it's a maladaptation and she's [TS]

00:49:42   not going to be able to she's not going [TS]

00:49:44   to learn how to leverage your your [TS]

00:49:49   wealth into power over people who don't [TS]

00:49:53   ask you talk too much about our bet you [TS]

00:49:55   know that good kids are weird kids are [TS]

00:49:58   super weird I it's hard to know what [TS]

00:50:00   they're going to what they're going to [TS]

00:50:01   connect with and like but the buffet i [TS]

00:50:03   remember the buffet just being the stuff [TS]

00:50:06   of fantasy to me when we got our first [TS]

00:50:07   don't say Duff's and in Cincinnati was [TS]

00:50:11   like three dollars me in like nineteen [TS]

00:50:14   seventy six or seven dollars you it [TS]

00:50:15   feels like it was three dollars for all [TS]

00:50:17   all you was before they say all you care [TS]

00:50:20   to eat they would say for [TS]

00:50:21   all-you-can-eat buffet which really was [TS]

00:50:23   more like some kind of a challenge oh [TS]

00:50:24   yeah ours was called the royal fork and [TS]

00:50:27   when you walked into the Royal for that [TS]

00:50:30   sounds fancy it was it was it was there [TS]

00:50:32   was a crown on top of the fork the Royal [TS]

00:50:34   for you'd walk into the royal fork and [TS]

00:50:36   you saw right away [TS]

00:50:37   that there were like twenty four [TS]

00:50:39   different kinds of jell-o salad and yeah [TS]

00:50:43   all the macaroni and cheese you could [TS]

00:50:44   eat all the chicken cutlets you could [TS]

00:50:46   eat all the school Betty you could eat [TS]

00:50:48   it wasn't it was an insane scene and [TS]

00:50:52   then I can't imagine why the restaurant [TS]

00:50:53   like that would go out of business but [TS]

00:50:55   royal fork is no more i'm looking at [TS]

00:50:57   some images here from a place that area [TS]

00:51:01   became popular around the time I moved [TS]

00:51:02   out of tallahassee but it's called china [TS]

00:51:04   super buffet and there was this real [TS]

00:51:06   trend in the mid to late night for [TS]

00:51:08   example I think I told you the first [TS]

00:51:09   time I ever ate sushi at least on a [TS]

00:51:12   regular basis was at a buffet [TS]

00:51:14   oh that's good sushi buffet sushi sigo [TS]

00:51:16   you got lunch is eight dollars for [TS]

00:51:18   all-you-can-eat sushi and a seminal role [TS]

00:51:20   you know what's that Tom i Doan 27 [TS]

00:51:24   Olympians eat their food and rolls I [TS]

00:51:27   think that racism and white wife beating [TS]

00:51:29   it but they uh but no but that's that [TS]

00:51:31   was well there was this trend though in [TS]

00:51:33   the mid to late nineties where there's [TS]

00:51:34   like more and more buffets taking over [TS]

00:51:37   and pushing out the more mom-and-pop [TS]

00:51:39   version of whatever was coming there so [TS]

00:51:42   when this place open you should see this [TS]

00:51:43   place looks like a a barn it's just [TS]

00:51:46   giant so they got all that i'm looking [TS]

00:51:47   here at the steam tables full of like [TS]

00:51:50   lots of you know vegetable heavy dishes [TS]

00:51:53   with recent but they also have this [TS]

00:51:54   entire bar of just uniformly [TS]

00:51:56   golden-brown american food is always [TS]

00:51:59   liked all-you-can-eat tater tots all you [TS]

00:52:00   can eat french fries all ukita it's not [TS]

00:52:03   going to publix you know when you go to [TS]

00:52:04   that the hot section where it's like [TS]

00:52:06   just all uniformly golden brown [TS]

00:52:07   oh I know I know and people just would [TS]

00:52:09   just go fucking crazy in this place I [TS]

00:52:13   was behind a guy the salad bar last week [TS]

00:52:14   and I I swear to god you do not want to [TS]

00:52:18   see an old person in the salad bar they [TS]

00:52:19   put a hurtin on a salad bar [TS]

00:52:21   I think a lot for a lot of people to go [TS]

00:52:23   the salad bar that's going to be three [TS]

00:52:24   meals I've got a pal uh who insists that [TS]

00:52:31   we go to sizzler not because the stakes [TS]

00:52:36   are good but because the salad bar they [TS]

00:52:38   got AI got hot bar [TS]

00:52:39   yeah right you can go you two soups you [TS]

00:52:42   get a variety of breads yep [TS]

00:52:45   now you gotta pump chilly there today [TS]

00:52:47   well the children maybe the chili is in [TS]

00:52:49   a is in a [TS]

00:52:51   serving tub because I don't sound like [TS]

00:52:54   it like a like a fancy lad but sizzlers [TS]

00:52:56   just a little bit of my bar [TS]

00:52:59   yeah I keep saying this I can't even [TS]

00:53:01   find ironically john and i want to [TS]

00:53:02   change the cheese dad what did your did [TS]

00:53:04   your tastebuds the stop in 1987 I mean [TS]

00:53:08   they stopped evolving like sizzler [TS]

00:53:10   no I can't go to sizzler but but she [TS]

00:53:12   insists and we go to sister and my god I [TS]

00:53:15   can't do this this is that they don't [TS]

00:53:17   even have they don't even have steak in [TS]

00:53:19   Malibu chicken anymore i couldn't even [TS]

00:53:21   find a malibu chicken salad with chicken [TS]

00:53:22   what I got in what you never had you [TS]

00:53:25   never want to sizzler got steak in [TS]

00:53:26   Malibu chicken think so sounds pretty [TS]

00:53:28   good [TS]

00:53:29   malibu chicken is basically just a [TS]

00:53:31   chicken breast with the LA cheese on it [TS]

00:53:34   slice a ham on it and then some Swiss [TS]

00:53:36   cheese on the top [TS]

00:53:37   oh it's like a poor man's that cordon [TS]

00:53:39   bleu the poor man's quarter blue you get [TS]

00:53:41   it get too used to get two breasts to [TS]

00:53:45   Malibu chickens and anna and some kind [TS]

00:53:47   of six ounce or eight ounce steak that [TS]

00:53:50   that absolutely fell off the back of a [TS]

00:53:52   truck right i mean it's like they say [TS]

00:53:54   they don't say us a choice they say they [TS]

00:53:58   say like choice takes a picture picture [TS]

00:54:02   of a guy in government uniform shrugging [TS]

00:54:04   if I'm right it's like choice takes [TS]

00:54:06   that's that's different than saying that [TS]

00:54:08   this steak is USDA choice probably fine [TS]

00:54:11   it's just saying that you chose them [TS]

00:54:13   how about ok like a laundry bin of [TS]

00:54:17   states [TS]

00:54:18   let's take him it came out of a out of a [TS]

00:54:21   processing plant no no we don't mean [TS]

00:54:23   USDA choice we just means we picked out [TS]

00:54:25   for you mean scissors choice i don't [TS]

00:54:27   think they might even be called sisters [TS]

00:54:28   sisters choice that's as good as us atty [TS]

00:54:32   a choice but yeah so I so the other day [TS]

00:54:35   i was down i was being I was being [TS]

00:54:37   basically like a guy press-ganged into [TS]

00:54:42   going into a sizzler and I was standing [TS]

00:54:44   out front like like digging my heels [TS]

00:54:47   into the cement going no i do not want [TS]

00:54:49   again to go to a sizzler i'm done and [TS]

00:54:52   across the street from the sizzler is an [TS]

00:54:54   Outback Steakhouse and I said let's just [TS]

00:54:57   look look-look-look-look we're here [TS]

00:54:59   let's just try something new you know me [TS]

00:55:01   I like try something new [TS]

00:55:02   let's just go across the street to the [TS]

00:55:04   out [TS]

00:55:04   back steakhouse will do a comparison [TS]

00:55:06   it's consistent it is consistent and so [TS]

00:55:09   we slept across the street to the to the [TS]

00:55:13   outback steakhouse we go in and [TS]

00:55:15   immediately were being upset [TS]

00:55:17   also the bloomin onion we weren't even [TS]

00:55:19   seated at the table this and sat there [TS]

00:55:22   and just sort of you know got up sold [TS]

00:55:24   half a dozen times the weight the waiter [TS]

00:55:27   was pretty bad at his job but you know [TS]

00:55:32   it was a better class of stake than the [TS]

00:55:35   sizzler so i had to say you know okay [TS]

00:55:37   you go to places like a ponderosa on [TS]

00:55:40   your kid we didn't have those in [TS]

00:55:41   Anchorage we didn't I don't even know [TS]

00:55:43   what a golden corral is that sounds like [TS]

00:55:45   a royal forward but that's not a real [TS]

00:55:47   fucking golden corral i think is like [TS]

00:55:49   that well here's the thing like when I [TS]

00:55:50   was a kid he had your York steak house [TS]

00:55:53   you never heard her well and they were [TS]

00:55:55   places that did like a cafeteria-style [TS]

00:55:57   line and you could get a six-dollar [TS]

00:56:00   steak or whatever or whatever you can [TS]

00:56:02   get you know that the ground beef patty [TS]

00:56:04   burger with steak fries and you get a [TS]

00:56:06   little just like you get the putting in [TS]

00:56:08   the jello out of the case just like you [TS]

00:56:09   know like you would any cafeteria [TS]

00:56:11   it's just that would be you know it's [TS]

00:56:12   like slightly nicer than disgusting and [TS]

00:56:15   like you would go there but then I think [TS]

00:56:17   something happened i want to say around [TS]

00:56:19   the time i was in high school probably [TS]

00:56:20   where they suddenly i guess i don't know [TS]

00:56:23   i'm not sure what market force would [TS]

00:56:25   have caused this but they started adding [TS]

00:56:27   more and more buffet elements i think it [TS]

00:56:29   started [TS]

00:56:29   obviously with the state with the with [TS]

00:56:31   salad bar then they start you start [TS]

00:56:33   having your soups you got your breads [TS]

00:56:35   you get more made a carving station and [TS]

00:56:38   I think that feels very luxe to people [TS]

00:56:39   when you go to las vegas & like people [TS]

00:56:41   are dying for this stuff [TS]

00:56:42   did I ever tell you that I was a member [TS]

00:56:44   of a group called the cotillion club [TS]

00:56:46   when I was in high school was that what [TS]

00:56:49   was that about dancing it was about [TS]

00:56:50   dancing always think italian club you [TS]

00:56:52   were in continuum club seventh grade [TS]

00:56:54   yeah don't know about yours [TS]

00:56:56   well so you know sometime around [TS]

00:56:59   I don't know 9th or 10th grade the kids [TS]

00:57:02   all started whispering about cotillion [TS]

00:57:05   were you or were you not going to get [TS]

00:57:08   invited to tell you and I had never [TS]

00:57:12   heard of continued and I didn't know [TS]

00:57:13   what to expect but it was like [TS]

00:57:17   a group of adults chose which kids were [TS]

00:57:24   the right kids wear the fancy kids [TS]

00:57:28   you're kidding to invite to cotillion [TS]

00:57:30   club which was a special set of dance [TS]

00:57:32   and this is in the eighties [TS]

00:57:33   oh yeah special set of dances that only [TS]

00:57:36   the chosen kids could attend and the [TS]

00:57:41   grown-ups were like the moms and dads [TS]

00:57:43   and i think that the that the the [TS]

00:57:47   grown-ups chose one another to like the [TS]

00:57:49   the moms and dads from from the last set [TS]

00:57:53   you know picked then the the right moms [TS]

00:57:56   and dads to choose the right kids for [TS]

00:57:58   the next generation and so buzzed all [TS]

00:58:03   the kids are whispering who's going to [TS]

00:58:05   get into cotillion club and it was not a [TS]

00:58:07   thing that I knew about and my mom was [TS]

00:58:12   absolutely not one of the right moms and [TS]

00:58:15   i was very definitely not one of the [TS]

00:58:19   right kids man [TS]

00:58:21   and so cotillion club comes around and [TS]

00:58:23   and and you know it's like the kids are [TS]

00:58:26   getting tapped like you know tap on the [TS]

00:58:29   shoulder it's like skullenbones with [TS]

00:58:31   dance moves [TS]

00:58:31   do you want are you know yet you are [TS]

00:58:34   invited to tell you do you accept your [TS]

00:58:35   you know you accept or refuse to make [TS]

00:58:39   your choice right and all the kids like [TS]

00:58:40   oh my god I'm in cotillion [TS]

00:58:42   Wow and so the selection of cotillion [TS]

00:58:44   happened and I was not invited because [TS]

00:58:49   the moms who made that decision i think [TS]

00:58:52   there were some dads to mom's dance had [TS]

00:58:56   determined that I was the bad elements i [TS]

00:58:57   was the wrong i was the wrong tone [TS]

00:59:01   because my parents were divorced my [TS]

00:59:06   mother was a single mother who lived in [TS]

00:59:09   an inappropriately big house considering [TS]

00:59:13   she was a single mother so that was [TS]

00:59:14   suspicious something was wrong because [TS]

00:59:18   no single mother should be prospering [TS]

00:59:21   and this suspicion i think in the [TS]

00:59:24   neighborhood was that my mom was there [TS]

00:59:25   to steal all their husbands or something [TS]

00:59:26   whatever it was that they were afraid of [TS]

00:59:28   single women at the time single [TS]

00:59:30   professional women so I didn't get [TS]

00:59:32   invited and also I was a bad kid let's [TS]

00:59:33   be honest here but my friends who all [TS]

00:59:38   were in continuing club rebelled [TS]

00:59:41   you know you never saw this before and I [TS]

00:59:43   didn't think my friends like me that [TS]

00:59:45   much but they did like me enough and [TS]

00:59:48   they went to their moms and they they [TS]

00:59:50   staged a protest not a not an actual [TS]

00:59:53   protest because these are middle-class [TS]

00:59:55   kids there's an insurrection an [TS]

00:59:57   insurrection and they said if you don't [TS]

00:59:59   invite [TS]

00:59:59   invite [TS]

01:00:00   John to cotillion club then we none of [TS]

01:00:01   us will go to tell and it was a [TS]

01:00:03   completely false threat they all were [TS]

01:00:05   gonna go to tell you whether I went or [TS]

01:00:07   not but it was for that week or whenever [TS]

01:00:09   it was there it was there stand for [TS]

01:00:11   justice that was there that was their [TS]

01:00:15   march on Selma was that they were going [TS]

01:00:17   to stop this this tragedy that I hadn't [TS]

01:00:20   been invited to continue so a week later [TS]

01:00:25   than everyone else my invitation to [TS]

01:00:27   cotillion arrived and you could just and [TS]

01:00:29   you just knew the moms or so mad because [TS]

01:00:34   i was i would I was gonna ruin it and [TS]

01:00:38   obviously like there were very few if [TS]

01:00:42   know people of color invited to [TS]

01:00:44   cotillion and it was but you know this [TS]

01:00:48   was before anybody felt like before any [TS]

01:00:51   white people notice that there was a [TS]

01:00:53   problem with that [TS]

01:00:54   and so they had these dances down at the [TS]

01:00:58   Hilton Hotel where members of the [TS]

01:01:02   cotillion club from all the schools [TS]

01:01:04   would congregate and it was basically [TS]

01:01:06   like these are the right kids from the [TS]

01:01:09   whole town [TS]

01:01:10   these are the these are the chosen kids [TS]

01:01:12   from something from the thirties yes [TS]

01:01:15   absolutely but this is Anchorage in the [TS]

01:01:17   eighties la even by the eighties like I [TS]

01:01:19   think about when I was in like advanced [TS]

01:01:21   english they had to come up with a funny [TS]

01:01:23   name for it so they could they did one [TS]

01:01:24   called accelerator whatever there was so [TS]

01:01:26   much concerned about steering so much [TS]

01:01:27   concern about like you know even then [TS]

01:01:30   exhaling kids to some kind of area where [TS]

01:01:32   like they didn't feel special like yeah [TS]

01:01:34   I can't believe this existed but this [TS]

01:01:36   was this was extra school it had nothing [TS]

01:01:38   to do with the school this was a group [TS]

01:01:40   that was funded and run by parents who [TS]

01:01:43   wanted the best for their kids [TS]

01:01:46   ok and it was absolutely like savannah [TS]

01:01:49   in the thirties but the you know there [TS]

01:01:52   was this super class hierarchy and [TS]

01:01:56   Anchorage at the time because a lot of [TS]

01:01:58   the people that settled Alaska in the [TS]

01:02:00   fifties and sixties came from a the [TS]

01:02:05   Northeast in you know at [TS]

01:02:10   and move directly to Alaskan like they [TS]

01:02:12   didn't move west they moved from new [TS]

01:02:14   haven to Anchorage little bit a little [TS]

01:02:16   bit of French plantation [TS]

01:02:18   yeah so they brought their old culture [TS]

01:02:20   which didn't continue to evolve and then [TS]

01:02:23   that was you know they tried to him [TS]

01:02:25   implanted in Anchorage and the end it [TS]

01:02:29   was successful [TS]

01:02:30   so that was the first time I ever saw [TS]

01:02:32   carving station because you would go to [TS]

01:02:34   cotillion and there was like a dinner / [TS]

01:02:36   where there would be a giant ham and a [TS]

01:02:39   giant roast beef under a metal thing and [TS]

01:02:41   I person is in a chef's hat who would [TS]

01:02:45   carve the meat for you and I'm standing [TS]

01:02:49   there in my like already wearing like a [TS]

01:02:52   a a double-knit suit because i was like [TS]

01:02:55   buck you and I mean I went in to [TS]

01:02:58   cotillion knowing that I was persona non [TS]

01:03:01   grata with the chaperones and so I [TS]

01:03:06   really played it up just you know just [TS]

01:03:08   like polyester suits and bad attitude [TS]

01:03:12   and show you this is not something where [TS]

01:03:15   your friends want them to interrupt your [TS]

01:03:16   friends wanted you in there but this was [TS]

01:03:18   not something was on your radar you did [TS]

01:03:20   not see someone who like I i need to [TS]

01:03:22   become part of the in scene with italian [TS]

01:03:24   club [TS]

01:03:25   well I always imagined that my role in [TS]

01:03:28   every situation was the UH was somewhere [TS]

01:03:33   between a Pluto and hotter right like I [TS]

01:03:38   was Bluto I was Bluto when it was time [TS]

01:03:41   to start a food fight that you can pass [TS]

01:03:42   but I was honor when it was time to [TS]

01:03:45   stage a protest at be at the fraternity [TS]

01:03:49   sorority meeting so I was the one that [TS]

01:03:54   shouted Gator when it was time to get [TS]

01:03:57   her I was the one that that wore a toga [TS]

01:04:01   when it was time to wear toca i started [TS]

01:04:04   the the conga line you know you had a [TS]

01:04:06   hearing with Dean wormer you need to put [TS]

01:04:07   on a time that's right put on a tie with [TS]

01:04:09   and you go to the meeting with dean [TS]

01:04:11   where you say Dean wormer you're [TS]

01:04:12   absolutely right we're going to try and [TS]

01:04:14   straighten this up you know so I could i [TS]

01:04:15   I would talk to adults i actually had a [TS]

01:04:18   mother I had actually a mother looked me [TS]

01:04:21   in the eye and say you are such a [TS]

01:04:22   bullshit are [TS]

01:04:23   test and you know I was 15 right and I [TS]

01:04:27   took it as the highest compliment that [TS]

01:04:31   you know that this mom was driven to [TS]

01:04:33   such frustration the and that she would [TS]

01:04:36   swear a team you know I get with such a [TS]

01:04:39   violation of her personal code right [TS]

01:04:41   that I had driven her to call me [TS]

01:04:43   abortion Gino she hissed at me like such [TS]

01:04:46   a bullshit artist I was like haha so I [TS]

01:04:50   was at cotillion but I absolutely felt I [TS]

01:04:52   belonged there but I belonged there as [TS]

01:04:54   the person who was trying to ruin it for [TS]

01:04:56   everyone else [TS]

01:04:58   oh I'm sorry make it super fun for [TS]

01:05:02   everyone but in the process ruin it for [TS]

01:05:05   all time all right [TS]

01:05:08   yeah it looks like your your foot looks [TS]

01:05:10   like it's a cake that turns into the [TS]

01:05:12   Deathmobile that's exactly what that's [TS]

01:05:14   exactly it [TS]

01:05:14   and so every time and you know and I [TS]

01:05:17   there over the course of a couple of [TS]

01:05:19   years I was I was expelled from [TS]

01:05:23   cotillion and then was allowed back into [TS]

01:05:26   cotillion because I you know I wrote a [TS]

01:05:29   wrote a letter of apology or something [TS]

01:05:33   to somebody it was all just a big you [TS]

01:05:35   know first and then there was College [TS]

01:05:37   cotillion which was when you got back [TS]

01:05:39   from college when you returned to [TS]

01:05:41   anchorage a christmas break there would [TS]

01:05:44   be a big dance for all the cotillion [TS]

01:05:46   kids to stand around and talk about [TS]

01:05:48   their fancy colleges and I went to that [TS]

01:05:51   and I actually really destroyed that [TS]

01:05:53   dance [TS]

01:05:53   oh yeah there was there was like there [TS]

01:05:56   was projectile vomiting there was [TS]

01:05:57   actually no it was actually spiking the [TS]

01:05:59   punch bowl real life real life spiking [TS]

01:06:02   the punch bowl as though it was nineteen [TS]

01:06:05   fifty that's a that's the eighties in [TS]

01:06:08   Anchorage what was the if you can [TS]

01:06:12   remember or gas was the endgame for [TS]

01:06:14   cotillion club in terms of what the moms [TS]

01:06:17   with a replicating some kind of an East [TS]

01:06:19   Coast thing that they felt like they [TS]

01:06:20   lost were they trying to make something [TS]

01:06:21   new [TS]

01:06:22   was it a feeder program into some kind [TS]

01:06:24   of larger social world [TS]

01:06:26   yeah it was it was the best and the [TS]

01:06:28   brightest they wanted the best wanted [TS]

01:06:31   the best kids by their estimation to [TS]

01:06:34   understand the bomb they had with [TS]

01:06:37   another and begin the process of [TS]

01:06:39   creating an old boy network in the youth [TS]

01:06:42   where you would like you were meeting [TS]

01:06:46   one another at a time when you know you [TS]

01:06:50   had some of you had already decided to [TS]

01:06:53   be doctors and some had decided to be [TS]

01:06:54   lawyers but the ones who are going to [TS]

01:06:56   run real estate empires and owned the [TS]

01:06:58   bank didn't quite know what they were [TS]

01:07:01   gonna do yet you know they knew they [TS]

01:07:02   were going to go into business or [TS]

01:07:03   whatever but once you once you were all [TS]

01:07:06   30 years down the road and you'd go into [TS]

01:07:09   get a loan to start your own newspaper [TS]

01:07:12   whatever again the obtained Club [TS]

01:07:14   handshake [TS]

01:07:15   now you sit down at the in the in the [TS]

01:07:17   bank presidents office and you already [TS]

01:07:18   knew each other you know each other from [TS]

01:07:20   all the way back to cotillion club like [TS]

01:07:23   it's a it was its how old boy networks [TS]

01:07:25   get created in places where because what [TS]

01:07:28   we didn't have up there was what you do [TS]

01:07:30   have back east which is like family [TS]

01:07:32   names so you weren't if somebody walked [TS]

01:07:36   into your bank presidents office than [TS]

01:07:37   and you were just like oh I'm a [TS]

01:07:39   Roosevelt yeah that Vanderbilt or [TS]

01:07:41   something yeah right so you know what [TS]

01:07:43   that means but in Alaska that was still [TS]

01:07:45   very new and actually as a Roderick you [TS]

01:07:49   know my uncle had been mayor I was I've [TS]

01:07:53   told you that story right where I was [TS]

01:07:54   standing at some party and some adult [TS]

01:07:56   walks up with this other kid my age some [TS]

01:07:59   dopey looking kid and they're like I [TS]

01:08:02   thought you two should meet both of your [TS]

01:08:05   a you know like your uncle was mayor [TS]

01:08:09   john and dopey kid here his is a his dad [TS]

01:08:12   was governor and you know you guys [TS]

01:08:14   should know each other and the dopey kid [TS]

01:08:16   and i SAT and looked at each other like [TS]

01:08:17   huh [TS]

01:08:18   here there that's you there's me but [TS]

01:08:21   that the idea was like how you guys are [TS]

01:08:23   both part of political dynasties you [TS]

01:08:25   should be so it's so weird if you knew [TS]

01:08:28   each other then that would be like good [TS]

01:08:30   somewhere down the line i think it's i [TS]

01:08:33   think it's still goes on even as we [TS]

01:08:37   would all kind of want to shun that or [TS]

01:08:40   act like it doesn't exist anymore i [TS]

01:08:42   think it's it still goes on it's just [TS]

01:08:44   it's so coded now ms has so many levels [TS]

01:08:47   to it of like seeming good intent [TS]

01:08:50   in but I mean down to like I remember I [TS]

01:08:55   remember first hearing some some friends [TS]

01:08:57   of mine lives in New York the kids [TS]

01:08:59   probably three or four years older than [TS]

01:09:00   ours and it's woman whose you know clamp [TS]

01:09:02   she's very prominent in the tech world [TS]

01:09:06   and basically the floor first hearing [TS]

01:09:09   the phrase feeder preschool which is to [TS]

01:09:13   this day it just makes me shudder at [TS]

01:09:15   some park slope shit right there he [TS]

01:09:17   absolutely think that but well I think [TS]

01:09:19   they might leave Manhattan my night [TS]

01:09:20   people i'm not sure but in any case but [TS]

01:09:22   like now I mean when I first heard that [TS]

01:09:24   I was like you've got to be kidding me [TS]

01:09:25   when your feet are school I think of [TS]

01:09:27   that is an undergraduate program that [TS]

01:09:29   tends to get certain kinds of candidates [TS]

01:09:31   whether its medical or business or [TS]

01:09:33   whatever tends to get them into like an [TS]

01:09:34   Ivy League school it's a feeder school [TS]

01:09:36   and I you know what I won't even accept [TS]

01:09:37   that there are prep schools that are [TS]

01:09:39   feeder schools for undergrad programs [TS]

01:09:41   like that all makes sense in some kind [TS]

01:09:43   of Catcher in the Rye way to me but like [TS]

01:09:45   the idea of a feeder preschool that your [TS]

01:09:47   three-year-old has to be going to the [TS]

01:09:49   right school in order to get into the [TS]

01:09:51   right elementary school [TS]

01:09:52   it's completely bananas we applied to [TS]

01:09:55   five free schools in san francisco and [TS]

01:09:58   we got into one [TS]

01:09:59   oh my god yeah and I mean you know they [TS]

01:10:02   weren't like we're not talking like prep [TS]

01:10:03   schools were talking fancy but I mean [TS]

01:10:05   you know they cost money and stuff [TS]

01:10:06   yeah but there are three schools there [TS]

01:10:08   preschools the preschool near our house [TS]

01:10:10   the montessori school near our house has [TS]

01:10:11   a required five-day-a-week attendances [TS]

01:10:13   fifteen hundred dollars a month [TS]

01:10:15   yeah yeah well I hear this from my new [TS]

01:10:17   york friends all the time like the [TS]

01:10:20   reason that a lot of them don't bring [TS]

01:10:21   their kids on the joco Cruz anymore is [TS]

01:10:24   because they cannot afford to miss a [TS]

01:10:28   week of grade school because if they if [TS]

01:10:32   their attendance is bad [TS]

01:10:36   by which I mean miss one week of school [TS]

01:10:38   their attendance is that bad they won't [TS]

01:10:40   get into the right junior high and I'm [TS]

01:10:43   just like all of the you you should just [TS]

01:10:45   take your kids out of school if those [TS]

01:10:47   are the rules [TS]

01:10:48   there's a part of that I have to say I'm [TS]

01:10:50   of two minds is a part of that makes [TS]

01:10:51   absolute sense to me and then a much [TS]

01:10:53   larger part of that is so fucking [TS]

01:10:55   bananas I can't even believe it [TS]

01:10:56   especially eve even in elementary school [TS]

01:10:59   you know i mean i understand that we [TS]

01:11:00   don't want my kid missing school I I [TS]

01:11:01   don't like her to be sick [TS]

01:11:03   misc stuff because it's all cumulative [TS]

01:11:05   especially with common core stuff like [TS]

01:11:06   you really you need to know the stuff to [TS]

01:11:08   know this stuff and you've got to be [TS]

01:11:09   there and you've got to keep you know [TS]

01:11:10   you lose momentum when you miss those [TS]

01:11:12   days but the idea that like a just I [TS]

01:11:15   don't know there's something about that [TS]

01:11:16   that is really dispiriting to me [TS]

01:11:18   especially given how many people I know [TS]

01:11:20   who you know can manage to like make a [TS]

01:11:23   living and live in this atrocious city [TS]

01:11:25   and like how much time and energy it [TS]

01:11:28   takes to be like the parent of somebody [TS]

01:11:31   in that system and then like why [TS]

01:11:33   obviously the extension that being like [TS]

01:11:34   holy shit what about the kids you don't [TS]

01:11:36   have that like who is like fighting for [TS]

01:11:38   them to even get like a morsel it's [TS]

01:11:41   insane to me well you know one thing we [TS]

01:11:43   haven't talked about on this program is [TS]

01:11:45   the biz the billionaire party that we [TS]

01:11:46   went to [TS]

01:11:47   oh yeah do you feel comfortable talking [TS]

01:11:50   about the billionaire party I'm you know [TS]

01:11:52   that's a big family type that here on my [TS]

01:11:56   computer [TS]

01:11:56   um I we could talk about that at some [TS]

01:11:59   point [TS]

01:12:00   yeah I mean we went to a party where [TS]

01:12:02   Elon Musk was there I didn't see him you [TS]

01:12:05   know what I heard he was there is a lot [TS]

01:12:07   of that lot a lot of nice like nice [TS]

01:12:09   people they're very very nice people but [TS]

01:12:11   a lot of people in their forties early [TS]

01:12:13   forties yeah who are also billionaires [TS]

01:12:17   yeah 3 con club and they're all in there [TS]

01:12:20   all ended up at a party together [TS]

01:12:22   yeah if a bomb had gone off there would [TS]

01:12:25   be no internet today where there would [TS]

01:12:27   be no monetization even know how to turn [TS]

01:12:29   it back on right there be like well the [TS]

01:12:31   guy that the guy that turns on the [TS]

01:12:33   internet on immunization yeah I got it [TS]

01:12:35   turns on the internet every morning is [TS]

01:12:37   but he died in the party bomb [TS]

01:12:39   how are we gonna are we gonna make money [TS]

01:12:41   off of this now [TS]

01:12:43   mm um you know I we can talk about that [TS]

01:12:46   I you mentioned last week which was a [TS]

01:12:50   very interesting episode of this program [TS]

01:12:51   after we finished talking [TS]

01:12:54   well you did hinted during the program [TS]

01:12:56   that it was big week for you in more [TS]

01:12:58   than one way the story that you told [TS]

01:12:59   last week about getting ninety-four [TS]

01:13:01   percent of your home is back [TS]

01:13:02   uh was certainly a big week but i was [TS]

01:13:05   curious if you wanted to talk about the [TS]

01:13:06   other thing that you mentioned but you [TS]

01:13:08   could save for another show is it no [TS]

01:13:10   will you die but I wouldn't what was I [TS]

01:13:12   talking about uh you're making a [TS]

01:13:16   down payment alright oh yes i will talk [TS]

01:13:22   about it so we can table the [TS]

01:13:24   billionaire's for now [TS]

01:13:25   yeah I know you don't want to talk about [TS]

01:13:26   the boat no you didn't i got a whole [TS]

01:13:28   stack to think the thing about the [TS]

01:13:30   billionaire's I know that you run into [TS]

01:13:31   him at the supermarket and you have to [TS]

01:13:33   be like no way they have a special [TS]

01:13:35   billionaire [TS]

01:13:36   hey Jim hey Tony and they're like oh [TS]

01:13:40   yeah I heard your program we talk about [TS]

01:13:41   the billionaire party know what first [TS]

01:13:43   rule of billionaire party right right i [TS]

01:13:47   did show additional text conversation in [TS]

01:13:49   my what was she when you were with me [TS]

01:13:52   too I bet I can get your dad's voice but [TS]

01:13:54   I met a very nice man today named evan [TS]

01:13:56   he says that he knows you from from [TS]

01:13:58   something that you worked on a long to [TS]

01:14:00   become like crap but that's you know [TS]

01:14:03   yeah very nice man so what so why how he [TS]

01:14:08   talked about this [TS]

01:14:09   well yet happening yeah so the other day [TS]

01:14:10   I went I was so a couple of weeks ago I [TS]

01:14:13   was driving up to bellingham and my [TS]

01:14:16   daughter's mother had to pick up some [TS]

01:14:18   apologies i had to come up there and get [TS]

01:14:21   ya get a double filson bag full of [TS]

01:14:23   apologies and bring it back to Seattle [TS]

01:14:25   make it a nicer place [TS]

01:14:26   yeah it and so I'm driving up there and [TS]

01:14:31   my daughter's mother points and yells [TS]

01:14:33   were in Marysville Washington she points [TS]

01:14:36   and yells off to the side of freeway and [TS]

01:14:37   she goes GMC RV and I looked over and it [TS]

01:14:41   sold an RV dealer and there are 85 rvs [TS]

01:14:45   all of them that look like I mean [TS]

01:14:47   gigantic houses on wheels and then right [TS]

01:14:51   in the middle there's like it's like a [TS]

01:14:52   broken tooth there's this tiny little [TS]

01:14:55   thing and it's a GMC RV and so I make [TS]

01:15:01   make a mental note of it and when we [TS]

01:15:03   drive back from bellingham we drive past [TS]

01:15:05   it again and we both look at it go bad [TS]

01:15:07   is a GMC RV and it's sitting on an RV [TS]

01:15:09   lot and so we go home we don't stop and [TS]

01:15:14   a and after a couple of days I I i asked [TS]

01:15:19   my daughter's mother why don't you call [TS]

01:15:22   that dealership and see what the what [TS]

01:15:24   the story is with the GMC RV [TS]

01:15:26   maybe a little bit of an organization [TS]

01:15:27   here of course just to explain that when [TS]

01:15:30   you say GM cr-v a lot of people just [TS]

01:15:31   gonna hear some letters [TS]

01:15:32   yeah James Murphy we had a fairly [TS]

01:15:34   detailed discussion about the GMC RV [TS]

01:15:37   yeah they're on a past episode we talked [TS]

01:15:40   about this at length and what a cherry [TS]

01:15:42   bit of kit this thing that's right [TS]

01:15:44   longtime listeners will know what we're [TS]

01:15:45   talking about here and in fact I've told [TS]

01:15:47   you before right that the GMC RV episode [TS]

01:15:50   precipitated an email from a guy who [TS]

01:15:54   said hey I loved that show [TS]

01:15:56   longtime listener the program I also [TS]

01:15:58   happen to be President of the Northwest [TS]

01:16:01   gmcr V club and also the grandson of the [TS]

01:16:07   guy mr. birch who helped design the GMC [TS]

01:16:11   RV and one of them is called a birch [TS]

01:16:13   haven one of the designs is called the [TS]

01:16:15   purchase even named after my grandfather [TS]

01:16:17   that's so much cooler than cotillion [TS]

01:16:18   club it's very bizarre and and you know [TS]

01:16:20   we we do this all the time on this [TS]

01:16:22   program we talk about things and then [TS]

01:16:23   all of a sudden the other day what a [TS]

01:16:25   senior editor at The New York Times [TS]

01:16:27   retweeted our program and said you guys [TS]

01:16:29   have gotta listen to this episode it's [TS]

01:16:32   just like wow that's cool but he seems [TS]

01:16:34   like a gorgeous gorgeous nineteen [TS]

01:16:36   seventies RV it's kind of like a [TS]

01:16:39   Superman Superman i think is that how he [TS]

01:16:41   describes the time it's it's it's real [TS]

01:16:42   big your arm but it's not it's not [TS]

01:16:45   Winnebago big not win a big okay it's [TS]

01:16:47   like a big van you can you drive around [TS]

01:16:49   town but it's but it's a it's got a bed [TS]

01:16:51   in the back and a bathroom and a kitchen [TS]

01:16:53   and couch and so far anyway so we we we [TS]

01:16:57   call up to the dealer and the dealer [TS]

01:17:00   says yeah we got this thing here we [TS]

01:17:01   don't know anything about it and frankly [TS]

01:17:03   we don't want to know anything about it [TS]

01:17:05   we're in the market where were you know [TS]

01:17:06   we're in the business of selling these [TS]

01:17:08   $250,000 Winnebagos and this [TS]

01:17:11   some guy came in and traded it in on a [TS]

01:17:13   new Winnebago and it's sitting there and [TS]

01:17:16   and it's thirteen thousand dollars and [TS]

01:17:19   so you know what get to take it or don't [TS]

01:17:23   we don't give a sh 0 [TS]

01:17:24   and we were like well that is a that's [TS]

01:17:28   not that's not that is not out of reach [TS]

01:17:31   yeah it's a fairly reasonable price for [TS]

01:17:33   these the really nice ones can be 50 or [TS]

01:17:36   30 but you know 13,000 is right in the [TS]

01:17:40   sort of low end of normal or low end of [TS]

01:17:42   like this one is is a in good condition [TS]

01:17:47   you know etc so eventually one day i say [TS]

01:17:50   i'm just going to go up there [TS]

01:17:52   marysville isn't close to seattle but [TS]

01:17:55   it's you know close enough and I'm not [TS]

01:17:57   doing anything I'm just gonna drive up [TS]

01:17:58   there and see what see what's what [TS]

01:18:00   so I Drive up and I go and look at it [TS]

01:18:02   and it seems like you know the carpet [TS]

01:18:08   was changed its now sort of a tease [TS]

01:18:10   hotel lobby carpet there some things [TS]

01:18:13   have been changed about it but also the [TS]

01:18:16   the previous owners had done a lot of [TS]

01:18:18   modifications that improved the vehicle [TS]

01:18:20   and everyone in the subculture refers to [TS]

01:18:23   them as coaches like our coach and yeah [TS]

01:18:26   what condition is your coach and I'm [TS]

01:18:27   sort of like a coach is one of those [TS]

01:18:29   words I don't want to say don't say [TS]

01:18:31   coach I think you will have probably [TS]

01:18:34   eventually I was like me how was it was [TS]

01:18:36   the interior like well they've taken it [TS]

01:18:38   so they changed the shag carpet was gone [TS]

01:18:41   and the original upholstery was gone and [TS]

01:18:42   it had been reupholstered in a sort of [TS]

01:18:44   color that I can only describe as a [TS]

01:18:46   black berry smoothie which is very [TS]

01:18:49   divisive certain people see it and [TS]

01:18:51   they're like that like what like what [TS]

01:18:52   it's like a used car lot waiting room [TS]

01:18:54   kind of like like Industrial carpet [TS]

01:18:56   no no it's it's that the carpet on the [TS]

01:18:59   floor has yeah like little emblems [TS]

01:19:01   little fleur de lys on it that are sort [TS]

01:19:03   of like I don't know what you're [TS]

01:19:04   thinking but the upholstery is great [TS]

01:19:06   plush purple fabric i personally think [TS]

01:19:13   it's hilarious and great other people in [TS]

01:19:15   my clan think it is hideous but not not [TS]

01:19:18   the best taste but you know to each his [TS]

01:19:21   own [TS]

01:19:21   how many of these you gonna come across [TS]

01:19:23   that's right there aren't a whole lot of [TS]

01:19:24   them although there is a secondary [TS]

01:19:25   market for them but you know not be as [TS]

01:19:27   John this is a great thing to have a [TS]

01:19:29   hobby about so I'm sitting I'm sitting [TS]

01:19:31   in this RV I'm talking to the salesman [TS]

01:19:33   whose name is Todd with 1d Todd in 1d [TS]

01:19:36   that [TS]

01:19:36   fly and Todd on his business card has [TS]

01:19:39   photograph of himself with a pair of [TS]

01:19:41   oakley sunglasses perched on top of his [TS]

01:19:43   head doesn't happen by accident but no [TS]

01:19:46   it doesn't he was like right there's the [TS]

01:19:48   picture of me I want on my business card [TS]

01:19:51   but it turns out i really like todd todd [TS]

01:19:53   is like extremely likeable he is a [TS]

01:19:56   salesman and he selling but he's also a [TS]

01:19:59   good guy like I just instinctively like [TS]

01:20:01   Todd he probably has jet skied sure but [TS]

01:20:08   I don't hold that against such as part [TS]

01:20:10   of his culture that's right so stop are [TS]

01:20:13   sitting there I'm like well time I mean [TS]

01:20:15   what about this what about that he's [TS]

01:20:16   like frankly uh uh the thing is as is i [TS]

01:20:22   don't want to know about it and nobody [TS]

01:20:26   here does so if you want to buy it if [TS]

01:20:28   you don't don't ask any questions [TS]

01:20:30   because the if you flip the switch and [TS]

01:20:32   it goes on then you know it works if you [TS]

01:20:34   flip the switch and it doesn't go on you [TS]

01:20:35   can presume that read to you because to [TS]

01:20:37   me that that that reads as primarily [TS]

01:20:39   first a tactic that he might use for [TS]

01:20:41   anything on the lot but then secondarily [TS]

01:20:42   it reads as there's something that's [TS]

01:20:44   gonna blow up yeah exactly both things [TS]

01:20:46   like there's an F there's an axial [TS]

01:20:48   that's going to go as soon as your off [TS]

01:20:49   the lot both things seem true and so I [TS]

01:20:53   thought about it some more and I and and [TS]

01:20:55   then I called my friend Greg birch and I [TS]

01:20:59   said hey why want somebody to go look at [TS]

01:21:01   this with me do you have anybody in your [TS]

01:21:04   uh rolodex and he was like let me call [TS]

01:21:06   you back and then immediately texted me [TS]

01:21:08   and said yeah there's a guy that lives [TS]

01:21:11   up there who's a member of our club and [TS]

01:21:13   he will come look at it with you [TS]

01:21:15   that's so cool that's why you have an RV [TS]

01:21:17   club [TS]

01:21:18   yes so I show up at the thing and this [TS]

01:21:22   man arrives and he's about 70 years old [TS]

01:21:24   and he is wearing suspenders clip-on [TS]

01:21:28   suspenders holding up his jeans like it [TS]

01:21:30   so far and he's got great hair and he's [TS]

01:21:32   a you know he's a heavyset guy [TS]

01:21:35   and he used to work at Boeing which is I [TS]

01:21:38   think true of every single GMC RV owner [TS]

01:21:41   in the northwest and he walks up and he [TS]

01:21:46   just starts spinning some knowledge and [TS]

01:21:50   he walks around he's like oh I see [TS]

01:21:52   they've upgraded the the grommets looks [TS]

01:21:54   like they changed that nipple out for a [TS]

01:21:56   stainless nipple [TS]

01:21:58   oh and look at here and they've got that [TS]

01:22:00   they they added the edit the the [TS]

01:22:02   secondary boost boost the battery [TS]

01:22:05   spinner and it's hot it's hot there well [TS]

01:22:07   this guy's dunno todd has got no Todd [TS]

01:22:10   doesn't give a shit Todd is off 750,000 [TS]

01:22:12   Winnebagos ok and it's just me and the [TS]

01:22:14   guy so this was probably a trade-in I [TS]

01:22:17   was absolutely a trade ok and so a so [TS]

01:22:20   the guy whose name is Tom which goes [TS]

01:22:24   very well Todd a new twins named Tommy [TS]

01:22:26   top Tom and Todd tom is like he's [TS]

01:22:29   pulling up the carpet is looking in the [TS]

01:22:31   he's looking in the the back he's [TS]

01:22:33   fiddling with the front he's he's down [TS]

01:22:36   he's like you know he's an old man and [TS]

01:22:39   he's down on the ground looking [TS]

01:22:40   underneath it and he pronounces that he [TS]

01:22:44   thinks the coaches in great condition [TS]

01:22:46   see I'm already calling our coach is [TS]

01:22:48   like this is a number one coach and he [TS]

01:22:53   loves the purple upholstery and so he [TS]

01:22:57   gives it the because of the Bill of good [TS]

01:22:59   health and I'm like I'm feeling stronger [TS]

01:23:02   and stronger about this all the time as [TS]

01:23:03   Tom I mean part of the first of all must [TS]

01:23:05   be kind of fun for Tom to get to do that [TS]

01:23:07   super fun that mean that that's good for [TS]

01:23:09   everybody and thank god bless time for [TS]

01:23:10   coming but also i'll bet you Tom in a [TS]

01:23:12   heartbeat would call your attention to [TS]

01:23:14   something bunkers all he absolutely [TS]

01:23:16   would and he had that wheel should not [TS]

01:23:18   move like that she had the expertise to [TS]

01:23:20   say like to see I mean he knew some deep [TS]

01:23:23   science on it and he said some [TS]

01:23:25   interesting things he was like listen [TS]

01:23:26   every RV leaks i'm sure this one leaks [TS]

01:23:29   they all leak because they're enormous [TS]

01:23:32   tubes that are subject to torque and [TS]

01:23:38   torsion and tour she owned [TS]

01:23:41   oh there's a lot of parts to move they [TS]

01:23:44   move and they twist and they ski to [TS]

01:23:46   shake a little bit shake [TS]

01:23:48   and so eventually they're all going to [TS]

01:23:50   leak and so don't be worried about leaks [TS]

01:23:52   you have to fix leaks but it's just it's [TS]

01:23:54   part of owning an RV if you want to do [TS]

01:23:56   things like owning it and it's like it's [TS]

01:23:57   like me a boner without having a fucking [TS]

01:23:59   boat like there's gonna be money and [TS]

01:24:01   time you put into this but you're not [TS]

01:24:02   living on it you're not living on its [TS]

01:24:04   not going to sink right right so so then [TS]

01:24:09   I'm talking to go find Todd and I'm like [TS]

01:24:13   so what are we going to do with this [TS]

01:24:14   like kid here it is there [TS]

01:24:16   I think I probably want it and Todd too [TS]

01:24:21   to his credit says look when i say i [TS]

01:24:26   don't care about this thing i'm serious [TS]

01:24:28   i don't care about it and so frankly if [TS]

01:24:31   you are very odd cells that [TS]

01:24:34   yeah he's great he's making your dad's [TS]

01:24:36   got something here is obviously an [TS]

01:24:37   enthusiast for this kind of fairly rare [TS]

01:24:39   vehicle he's like fucking I don't care [TS]

01:24:41   yep so he says look if you offer me a [TS]

01:24:43   thousand dollars right now i'll take [TS]

01:24:45   what i was like really ok i'll buy [TS]

01:24:48   prayed thousand dollars he was like [TS]

01:24:49   great sold [TS]

01:24:50   holy shit John and I said alright well [TS]

01:24:53   that was the best that was the easiest [TS]

01:24:55   negotiation I ever did and so so Todd [TS]

01:25:01   says you want to try and get a loan for [TS]

01:25:04   it and I was like yeah as a matter of [TS]

01:25:06   fact I do and so we went we went through [TS]

01:25:08   all this rigmarole with the banks and [TS]

01:25:11   the bank came back and said this person [TS]

01:25:14   is self-employed and that right there is [TS]

01:25:18   a reason it reject him but also some [TS]

01:25:23   years he makes this amount of money and [TS]

01:25:25   some years he makes that amount of money [TS]

01:25:27   and that is too much of a variation [TS]

01:25:30   probably not even sure which graph to [TS]

01:25:32   use yeah they put all my information [TS]

01:25:34   into the into the Machine and machine [TS]

01:25:37   spit out a giant ? leave club and it [TS]

01:25:40   started to smoke and what I discovered [TS]

01:25:42   was I my credit rating is 830 and Todd [TS]

01:25:46   was like for the 830 credit rating you [TS]

01:25:48   should be able to just you should be [TS]

01:25:49   able to buy a plane airplane but then I [TS]

01:25:53   brought my tax returns because they [TS]

01:25:55   insisted because I'm self-employed right [TS]

01:25:57   and then the tax returns really confuse [TS]

01:25:59   them [TS]

01:25:59   and they were like you what now [TS]

01:26:02   different forms you made up that are [TS]

01:26:04   written longhand yes I'm just like don't [TS]

01:26:06   know this is basically this is this is [TS]

01:26:09   super a normal and they're like this is [TS]

01:26:12   not normal you're your income is as are [TS]

01:26:16   incomprehensible to us we are a bank and [TS]

01:26:19   so they rejected me for a car loan for [TS]

01:26:22   eight thousand dollars and I was [TS]

01:26:24   offended drivers i was i was mad and [TS]

01:26:31   then I thought about it for a while and [TS]

01:26:33   I was like oh and I could just go ahead [TS]

01:26:34   and buy it i was like i could write a [TS]

01:26:37   check i don't have to get a bank loan [TS]

01:26:39   that was just something fun that I was [TS]

01:26:41   gonna do get a get a loan for the fun of [TS]

01:26:43   it let that put a bad taste in your [TS]

01:26:44   mouth you get your getting a coach [TS]

01:26:46   yeah so I went in and I was like here [TS]

01:26:47   Todd i'll buy and he was like oh alright [TS]

01:26:50   well get out of here then and so I fired [TS]

01:26:52   it up and I drove it off the lot and I [TS]

01:26:54   drove home [TS]

01:26:56   I can't believe it yeah I'm so fucking [TS]

01:27:00   excited to see this thing [TS]

01:27:01   well but here's the beers the rub so i [TS]

01:27:03   got it home and parked in my front yard [TS]

01:27:05   and then I you know when you know you've [TS]

01:27:08   really moved into the neighborhood [TS]

01:27:09   yeah when I went to bed and they're [TS]

01:27:11   checking i woke up the next morning I [TS]

01:27:13   walked out and I was like oh shit i have [TS]

01:27:16   become a guy with like an old shitty [TS]

01:27:20   decrepid motor home in his yard [TS]

01:27:23   you got a jimmy carter era RV coach in [TS]

01:27:26   your yard hope this pre Jimmy Carter [TS]

01:27:28   this is 75 this is a as afford this was [TS]

01:27:31   you know for RV yeah this is a this is a [TS]

01:27:34   gerald r ford era recreational vehicle [TS]

01:27:37   John um and so it hadn't thought about [TS]

01:27:40   that you won't fit your part right well [TS]

01:27:42   there's been some talk about whether it [TS]

01:27:44   would fit in the barn I don't think it [TS]

01:27:45   will I would have to move all the [TS]

01:27:46   vestments all the non-working vestments [TS]

01:27:48   out of the barn to fit in minot you know [TS]

01:27:51   my like how am I hashed up RV so you [TS]

01:27:54   have problem right now is ever so now [TS]

01:27:57   I'm like shifting into high gear here [TS]

01:28:00   like I'd better join this RV enthusiasts [TS]

01:28:03   club i had better oh and the other thing [TS]

01:28:06   is I'm time between about it and I get a [TS]

01:28:10   i get a tweet from this guy I [TS]

01:28:13   Isaac Marion who is a an author who has [TS]

01:28:16   written some popular books about zombies [TS]

01:28:19   and one of them was made into a movie [TS]

01:28:21   called where the zombie fella but it was [TS]

01:28:24   like a love story with the zombie like a [TS]

01:28:26   young good-looking zombie who falls in [TS]

01:28:28   love with a girl or something that will [TS]

01:28:30   occupy like twilight type thing yeah but [TS]

01:28:32   with zombies and it's sure it's funny [TS]

01:28:34   it's like a like a romantic comedy but [TS]

01:28:36   like one of the people is dead [TS]

01:28:38   nice and so Isaac Marion is a friend of [TS]

01:28:41   mine on Twitter and a very nice man and [TS]

01:28:43   he sends me a tweet he's like I own one [TS]

01:28:46   of those and i was like you what I mean [TS]

01:28:49   he's like a young handsome successful [TS]

01:28:51   office very good-looking guy John yeah [TS]

01:28:53   he's nice nice looking man and a very [TS]

01:28:54   nice man smart smart author author smart [TS]

01:28:58   huh [TS]

01:28:59   he says yeah I used to live in it in [TS]

01:29:01   ballard before the cops got wise to me [TS]

01:29:04   and they made me stop live in it but I [TS]

01:29:07   love my GMC RV and I was like Isaac you [TS]

01:29:09   got to come up and see this RV with me [TS]

01:29:10   so he did he got in my truck I want [TS]

01:29:13   picked him up at a cafe we drove up [TS]

01:29:14   looked at the RV was like oh this is [TS]

01:29:16   amazing so that we honestly voice is an [TS]

01:29:19   estimation of it he feel like it was a [TS]

01:29:21   good buy [TS]

01:29:21   also he has a small one there's [TS]

01:29:24   agreement to sign I got the big one all [TS]

01:29:26   to look at the schematic right now [TS]

01:29:28   yeah so he's like out two rooms it's got [TS]

01:29:31   yeah it's it's it's his bits as big as a [TS]

01:29:33   it's as big as a house on small it's so [TS]

01:29:35   cool [TS]

01:29:36   so anyway so Isaac gives me the clean [TS]

01:29:39   bill of health and I so now I'm in a [TS]

01:29:43   position basically we're not only do i [TS]

01:29:44   have to join this subculture fast and [TS]

01:29:46   figure it out but also i feel like i'm [TS]

01:29:49   going to start a subculture I feel like [TS]

01:29:51   it's time for young people to start [TS]

01:29:55   buying rvs in general and GMC rvs in [TS]

01:29:59   particular this is not something for [TS]

01:30:01   retirees John you're telling people who [TS]

01:30:02   are there still full of them and vigor [TS]

01:30:04   people who are still full of life it's [TS]

01:30:06   time to go out and buy yourself a purple [TS]

01:30:07   RV get a purple RV drive it down to Big [TS]

01:30:10   Sur and get your picture in Sunset [TS]

01:30:13   magazine like this is happening this is [TS]

01:30:16   a new subculture and it's going to be [TS]

01:30:18   like it's the new motorcycle gang for [TS]

01:30:20   four people in their thirties and [TS]

01:30:22   forties and fifties name of a little [TS]

01:30:24   slower and sometimes maybe like to have [TS]

01:30:25   a little now [TS]

01:30:26   yeah he got a juicer on board in case [TS]

01:30:28   you want some juice that's nice too [TS]

01:30:29   fresh juice you know a jen that you wake [TS]

01:30:32   up in the morning your gear right there [TS]

01:30:33   Big Sur you got a fresh glass of juice [TS]

01:30:35   cooking surface [TS]

01:30:37   I'm telling you there's a whole lot [TS]

01:30:38   there's a whole there's a refrigerator [TS]

01:30:39   there's a lot of animals my god it's and [TS]

01:30:42   it's got all these little like the the [TS]

01:30:44   couch turns into a bump I want that I [TS]

01:30:46   love stuff that turns into stuff and get [TS]

01:30:47   a little things with doors you can put [TS]

01:30:49   stuff in [TS]

01:30:49   yep little things with doors little [TS]

01:30:50   things that turn into other things just [TS]

01:30:52   so fucking cool so it's got and it's got [TS]

01:30:55   a its got one of those old the [TS]

01:30:57   Oldsmobile 455 motors which are like [TS]

01:31:01   it's got up there's a whole culture [TS]

01:31:03   people that just care about that motor [TS]

01:31:04   you can pull Todd's jetski if he had to [TS]

01:31:06   absolutely I could you know I'm I mean I [TS]

01:31:09   swear to you Gary is across the street [TS]

01:31:11   going [TS]

01:31:11   why does that guy get everything is [TS]

01:31:15   looking at jobs it's just like oh my god [TS]

01:31:18   i'm living in my ford van and he's you [TS]

01:31:20   just unintentionally gave Gary the [TS]

01:31:23   biggest fuck you in history of [TS]

01:31:24   everything first plate as he doesn't [TS]

01:31:26   remember that you've met before right [TS]

01:31:28   he's living in a nice living in a van [TS]

01:31:29   screaming about obama on his phone into [TS]

01:31:31   his lady in the middle of the night [TS]

01:31:32   yeah and then you pull up with like the [TS]

01:31:34   sweetest right can you pull it into your [TS]

01:31:36   yard you know that's what a fuck you [TS]

01:31:38   poor Gary well the whole neighborhood [TS]

01:31:40   now has to be like okay this is either a [TS]

01:31:43   harbinger of of of like a new era where [TS]

01:31:47   all of a sudden his yard is gonna fill [TS]

01:31:48   up with junk cars but it only takes one [TS]

01:31:51   yeah or he's doing something that the [TS]

01:31:54   rest of us you know like here we he's [TS]

01:31:57   our guru we need to follow him or on [TS]

01:32:00   meth lab or meth lab right but you know [TS]

01:32:03   eight thousand dollars you almost [TS]

01:32:04   couldn't afford not to buy it I i was [TS]

01:32:08   gonna guess I don't know how collectible [TS]

01:32:09   these things are imagine they need a [TS]

01:32:11   fair amount of maintenance and upkeep it [TS]

01:32:13   yeah i was gonna just starting at 25 [TS]

01:32:15   yeah so and I think you know you can fix [TS]

01:32:17   them up so now I'm now i'm in this whole [TS]

01:32:20   mode where it's like well I'm gonna fix [TS]

01:32:22   this thing up [TS]

01:32:23   I would kind of like to return it to [TS]

01:32:26   era-appropriate finishes by which i mean [TS]

01:32:31   like sheepdog shag carpet [TS]

01:32:35   uh-huh in burnt umber or what I'm [TS]

01:32:38   looking at as a real it's real over a [TS]

01:32:40   overbearing kind of green pattern and [TS]

01:32:42   economic Otto exactly there's a lot of [TS]

01:32:43   paisley yeah you keep yourself bunk beds [TS]

01:32:46   yes but my like God bunk beds bunk beds [TS]

01:32:50   and a queen size bed in the back and the [TS]

01:32:52   AMIA the little uh little dinette set [TS]

01:32:55   also turns into a full-size bed you put [TS]

01:32:57   66 people in there if there are six [TS]

01:33:00   people that are in love with each other [TS]

01:33:01   you know what was the seventies you [TS]

01:33:04   gotta be you gotta be cuddling it's a [TS]

01:33:06   little bit of a key party scene and now [TS]

01:33:08   some tarps and that I think about the [TS]

01:33:09   the key party aspect of it I feel like [TS]

01:33:11   what if you get three GMC rvs in any one [TS]

01:33:14   place there's going to be wife-swapping [TS]

01:33:15   god oh my god i would just I want to see [TS]

01:33:24   this thing just just pulled up to my [TS]

01:33:26   house someday wasn't much can be driving [TS]

01:33:28   that far apart again that's what it's [TS]

01:33:30   meant for mean it really like this make [TS]

01:33:32   it you think [TS]

01:33:33   yeah i'm gonna go the first thing I'm [TS]

01:33:34   gonna do is go through all the systems [TS]

01:33:36   and make sure that mechanically it is [TS]

01:33:39   ready to its only 50,000 miles on like [TS]

01:33:41   mechanically I'm getting this was [TS]

01:33:44   sitting somewhere for a long time oh [TS]

01:33:45   yeah i was sitting in some guys barn [TS]

01:33:48   probably somebody somebody had it and [TS]

01:33:49   maybe it had something worth fixing died [TS]

01:33:51   and another for 20-30 years became old [TS]

01:33:54   and then there is so yeah i'm gonna i'm [TS]

01:33:58   i'm preparing it to be my land yacht I'm [TS]

01:34:00   gonna take it up and down the coast all [TS]

01:34:02   the time and and it's gonna be my gonna [TS]

01:34:06   be my new scene is gonna be my weekend [TS]

01:34:07   thing [TS]

01:34:08   oh this is you know what buddy I gotta [TS]

01:34:11   tell you I think this is a good move i [TS]

01:34:12   think it's a healthy move and I think [TS]

01:34:14   it's a way to potentially channel a lot [TS]

01:34:18   of your occupations no no pseudo [TS]

01:34:24   distractions concerns and relative [TS]

01:34:27   primitive gestures into one coach the [TS]

01:34:31   thing I'm the only thing I'm worried [TS]

01:34:32   about is that I just gave myself and i [TS]

01:34:37   all-consuming leisure activity that I [TS]

01:34:39   wasn't you know I wasn't sitting around [TS]

01:34:43   like I don't have enough time for I have [TS]

01:34:47   too much time and I'd like to burn [TS]

01:34:48   something a diet time and money that i [TS]

01:34:51   want to burn in a new leisure activity [TS]

01:34:52   it's very much like getting a boat it's [TS]

01:34:55   just a dance better than about yes [TS]

01:34:57   priming boats boats ridonkulous [TS]

01:34:59   expensive to keep up [TS]

01:35:00   yeah and with this I mean especially if [TS]

01:35:02   you're not doing too many might want to [TS]

01:35:03   buy the nice triple-a is there some kind [TS]

01:35:05   of super triple-a you can get there is i [TS]

01:35:07   already have it [TS]

01:35:08   oh yeah I got a nice trip away a long [TS]

01:35:10   time ago because I because what I didn't [TS]

01:35:13   want was to call triple-a and have them [TS]

01:35:15   tell me something to help me tell me [TS]

01:35:17   that they look no excuses like yeah I [TS]

01:35:20   was just like I'm gonna get the biggest [TS]

01:35:21   triple-a so that when i call you from [TS]

01:35:24   somewhere out in the boonies you come [TS]

01:35:26   without giving me a bunch of rigmarole [TS]

01:35:27   doesn't take too many uses of that to [TS]

01:35:30   really pay for itself [TS]

01:35:31   oh it's an amazing service even though [TS]

01:35:33   even though as we've said well as we've [TS]

01:35:36   said before at least fifty percent of [TS]

01:35:38   the time you call triple-a you get [TS]

01:35:40   somebody who doesn't even know like they [TS]

01:35:43   probably their mom times their shoes in [TS]

01:35:45   the morning know someone who were very [TS]

01:35:46   confusing and 1.8 basically became a [TS]

01:35:50   proxy for going to the mechanic for me [TS]

01:35:52   oh yeah to wear a circa nineteen [TS]

01:35:54   eighty-nine I got the letter because you [TS]

01:35:57   can get the letter from home [TS]

01:35:58   what's the letter you get the ladder and [TS]

01:36:00   triple-a says hey look you're you're [TS]

01:36:02   overdoing it overdoing it like the week [TS]

01:36:04   that we can't be doing this twice a [TS]

01:36:05   month for you [TS]

01:36:06   yeah right and and that and I know that [TS]

01:36:09   too and the other day I was I the GMC RV [TS]

01:36:12   because it had been sitting for a long [TS]

01:36:14   time its battery wouldn't hold a charge [TS]

01:36:16   so i went down to the autozone and i [TS]

01:36:18   bought a hot new battery and and my [TS]

01:36:22   family was like oh why don't you just [TS]

01:36:24   call triple-a get them to come and and I [TS]

01:36:26   was like because i'm saving up and you [TS]

01:36:29   get to keep your powder dry and saving [TS]

01:36:31   up my triple-a calls because i just [TS]

01:36:32   bought a 40 year old RV it's couch i [TS]

01:36:37   have 40 year old coach and when i call [TS]

01:36:39   triple-a it's going to be serious right [TS]

01:36:41   a bigger bigger bigger touchback [TS]

01:36:44   I'm gonna be way way out somewhere [TS]

01:36:46   I'm gonna need I'm gonna need some help [TS]

01:36:48   on this special higher class like super [TS]

01:36:52   secret black card version triple-a for [TS]

01:36:54   people who have a coach we pay like 35 [TS]

01:36:56   times as much but they will actually [TS]

01:36:58   like to you to it to a sex depends on [TS]

01:37:00   like what's available where you are in [TS]

01:37:02   death valley your options might be kind [TS]

01:37:03   of limited i actually have that black [TS]

01:37:06   card RV motorcycle [TS]

01:37:10   okay i know i officially believe you [TS]

01:37:12   didn't know existed [TS]

01:37:13   yep RV motorcycle where they'll pick up [TS]

01:37:17   a motorcycle which is a certain kind of [TS]

01:37:18   weird knowing where they need a flatbed [TS]

01:37:21   and then they will also to an RV so I'm [TS]

01:37:23   expecting that when i finally call [TS]

01:37:25   triple-a i will have to hitchhike to a [TS]

01:37:28   phone booth to get them on the phone [TS]

01:37:30   because there won't be cell service and [TS]

01:37:33   i'm going to say listen I know it's time [TS]

01:37:35   that's how you know open the provisions [TS]

01:37:37   like this it i'm at mile poor milepost [TS]

01:37:39   4,000 on the and on UFO highway and I [TS]

01:37:47   need anything really really really big [TS]

01:37:48   talker huh i certainly think we could [TS]

01:37:50   just give you a push nope don't think [TS]

01:37:52   that's gonna work that was going to push [TS]

01:37:53   we get the fuck you level triple-a that [TS]

01:37:55   we've got this will give you a push if [TS]

01:37:56   you had that I know they want to give [TS]

01:37:59   you a point i think there's levels of [TS]

01:38:00   time and liability involved in different [TS]

01:38:02   things and I've on numerous occasions [TS]

01:38:05   had them want to put just do you steer [TS]

01:38:08   and we'll push that anyone hook you up [TS]

01:38:10   whoa again really don't want to bring [TS]

01:38:11   out the big roll away where they pushing [TS]

01:38:13   you [TS]

01:38:14   they get behind you with the big bumper [TS]

01:38:15   and they they want to push you to wear [TS]

01:38:17   to wherever you're goin wherever it [TS]

01:38:19   needs to be driven [TS]

01:38:20   well that doesn't sound safe at all yeah [TS]

01:38:22   you want that's it's worth upgrading [TS]

01:38:23   from that I guess a yep get the good [TS]

01:38:27   triple-a em so about but the the number [TS]

01:38:32   one thing about restoring an RV is that [TS]

01:38:35   the danger is that you get in there and [TS]

01:38:38   you start putting spice in the spice [TS]

01:38:39   rack right but oh you don't lose your [TS]

01:38:42   way [TS]

01:38:43   yeah right you've got you can't occupy [TS]

01:38:45   it until you've got it straightened out [TS]

01:38:50   you know you can't just start going in [TS]

01:38:52   there and putting throw pillows around [TS]

01:38:54   if you're going to rip up the carpet [TS]

01:38:55   right and so she also you do want to use [TS]

01:38:59   it [TS]

01:39:00   yeah thing you don't want this to just [TS]

01:39:01   be a boat project we're just a rich guy [TS]

01:39:03   with nothing better to do this is you [TS]

01:39:05   want your family to be able to roll [TS]

01:39:06   around in this that's right so so so the [TS]

01:39:08   current challenges prioritizing fix it [TS]

01:39:11   up projects so that we get the we get [TS]

01:39:15   the main mechanical ones done [TS]

01:39:17   immediately and then we get the we have [TS]

01:39:19   a list of the other mechanical stuff [TS]

01:39:21   that we need to get done and then we [TS]

01:39:23   have like how how much like fabric [TS]

01:39:29   cleaner and windex do we need to get in [TS]

01:39:34   here and start enjoying it i look at [TS]

01:39:36   that windshield you can just see [TS]

01:39:37   everything can it's a big big windshield [TS]

01:39:39   and it's one of the nice things about [TS]

01:39:40   them is that so they just have huge [TS]

01:39:43   windows I see this this i mean like this [TS]

01:39:45   inside it's likely it's like you're [TS]

01:39:47   living room [TS]

01:39:47   yeah so it's it's so it feels very light [TS]

01:39:49   and airy in there it's not it doesn't [TS]

01:39:52   feel like a claustrophobic RV is stinky [TS]

01:39:55   well how stinky is it stinky in the [TS]

01:39:58   sense that at some point along the way [TS]

01:40:00   an old person put some sort of fabric [TS]

01:40:04   softener got a potpourri solution yeah [TS]

01:40:06   potpourri and so you walk in there and [TS]

01:40:09   you're like I don't know what the bad [TS]

01:40:10   smells are in this place because it's [TS]

01:40:12   all covered with potpourri they could it [TS]

01:40:16   could be terrible [TS]

01:40:17   it could smell like mold and cats and [TS]

01:40:20   and end times in there but but i don't [TS]

01:40:24   but you want to know what it is you're [TS]

01:40:26   smelling and you're gonna be able to [TS]

01:40:27   keep the varmints out of this probably [TS]

01:40:28   right he's got good seals and everything [TS]

01:40:30   yeah but I feel like keep environments [TS]

01:40:32   out is also another thing like leaks [TS]

01:40:34   where you just know that it's part of RV [TS]

01:40:37   ownership that that mice are going to [TS]

01:40:40   try and get into your RV coach life [TS]

01:40:42   that's correct that's right coach life [TS]

01:40:44   it's ok it's it's my it's my new life [TS]

01:40:45   coach life is the good life [TS]

01:40:48   it's getting ugly dress at all you get [TS]

01:40:50   captain's hat it's very unclear to me [TS]

01:40:52   how to dress in a seventies RVD dragon [TS]

01:40:56   Commodore Schmidlapp kind of look for [TS]

01:40:57   you [TS]

01:40:58   mm you know i'm thinking a [TS]

01:40:59   double-breasted navy blazer Atlee [TS]

01:41:01   east ok I I you know I can't believe I [TS]

01:41:04   just said this I said are you gonna get [TS]

01:41:05   a captain's hat I you will probably [TS]

01:41:07   choose captains hat from amongst the [TS]

01:41:09   ones you have already [TS]

01:41:11   the problem with the with my current [TS]

01:41:13   captain's hat selection is that I have [TS]

01:41:14   some shitty captain's hats [TS]

01:41:16   let's setup great huh it's time to [TS]

01:41:18   upgrade to get a good captain's hat that [TS]

01:41:20   befits my status as the captain captain [TS]

01:41:24   the coach food [TS]

01:41:25   coach congratulations you're gonna love [TS]

01:41:34   it [TS]

01:41:34   you can wait your whole family's gonna [TS]

01:41:36   let we're gonna drive around San [TS]

01:41:37   Francisco together we're going to cause [TS]

01:41:39   a lot of problems for people in this [TS]

01:41:40   yep yep [TS]