0:00:00this episode of Roderick on the line is
0:00:01sponsored by cards against humanity this
0:00:03month they invited sincere engineer to
0:00:06help me say hi to john
0:00:13Roger I gotta lie
0:00:18hello
0:00:24I John mm-hmm
0:00:28hi Merlin how's it going it's going well
0:00:32it's going well
0:00:33sounds good sounds good you sound like a
0:00:35man restored
0:00:37it's pouring down rain here and has been
0:00:39for days and that is very good you know
0:00:44it's really thats whatever but you know
0:00:46what's really interesting is it's
0:00:47raining here a ho
0:00:49yeah when it rains the San Francisco man
0:00:51that's a smart that's far that everybody
0:00:53is gonna smell haha
0:00:55it washes washes them all down into the
0:00:59sea does one day a real rain is gonna
0:01:02come here at this time of year when the
0:01:06rain comes the cold also coming in the
0:01:10rain and the cold arrive together and it
0:01:13scares the living daylights out of all
0:01:15the people who arrived at any point in
0:01:19the last nine months I don't become
0:01:22suddenly yeah and all the people that
0:01:24are like I moved there in march and
0:01:26seattle's amazing
0:01:27yeah and they just they spent the whole
0:01:30summer thinking that Seattle was amazing
0:01:31and then the cold icy death grip hand of
0:01:36winter arrives just arrives wanna get
0:01:40soda pig in a poke me an enemy that
0:01:42having Tallahassee they brought me there
0:01:44like all come we want you to get this
0:01:46job in Tallahassee come visit and as it
0:01:49turned out they brought me there in the
0:01:51midst of a festival called springtime
0:01:53tallahassee and is the one week a year
0:01:55when it's really nice and tallahassee up
0:01:58exactly right
0:02:00you go you go you go in there stairs and
0:02:02flowers and you know children are making
0:02:04daisy chains and running around the
0:02:06Maypole and then like a week later it's
0:02:08like 95 degrees right and 95 degrees and
0:02:11and and the like the witches are
0:02:13building little stick figures out in the
0:02:15for the swamps right they start early
0:02:18their Halloween starts earlier every
0:02:19year John it's already starting 2016
0:02:21Helen so that's already in stores as i
0:02:24was driving in as i was driving in a you
0:02:27know I went past the methadone clinic
0:02:28and everybody there is running for cover
0:02:30and then all the people
0:02:31that have built camps like all the camps
0:02:35in the in the medians and up and kind of
0:02:37under the freeway and stuff you can just
0:02:39see the blue tarps come out and people
0:02:41are like holy shit
0:02:42ah my tent weeks that's sucks
0:02:46oh my god it sucks to be wet it's brutal
0:02:48and and then all of the Amazon all the
0:02:51like young guys in the j.crew suits and
0:02:54all the tight jeans people and all the
0:02:57Macklemore haircut people who are making
0:03:01a hundred eighty thousand dollars a year
0:03:02are like no amount of thousands of
0:03:05dollars a year can compensate me for
0:03:07this feeling which is that my bones are
0:03:10cold
0:03:10uh-huh and and then I go me haha
0:03:16because my bones have no feelings oh is
0:03:18that right not at all you seem like a
0:03:19man's bones would have maybe even
0:03:21sensitivity sometimes yeah maybe you're
0:03:23right i know probably not find that
0:03:25funny should bring this up because this
0:03:26is actually this is not by topic for the
0:03:27show but my lady and I are both actively
0:03:31looking for new of rain gear
0:03:34oh yeah I got a marmot jacket to
0:03:36replacement old marmot jacket and I told
0:03:39you this a few weeks ago and it looks
0:03:41it's virtually identical to the marmot
0:03:43jacket I've been wearing forever
0:03:44it's got one critical piece missing
0:03:46which is does not have the front outside
0:03:49pocket into which one could put and I
0:03:51thought oh what is why did they take
0:03:53that way you know i'm guessing cost
0:03:57yeah but you know that that's a shame
0:03:59but like in Russia as this is super
0:04:01interesting
0:04:02she's looking also first ring here it's
0:04:04like to be warm so now I've taken upon
0:04:06myself as a good husband to try and find
0:04:08her some some cure that will be warm now
0:04:10filson the filson where that's a
0:04:12commitment when you get filson you're
0:04:14getting the whole lifestyle right i
0:04:15don't own a single fill something right
0:04:17now
0:04:17yeah but thing about Phil's and stuff
0:04:19let's be honest film stuff is a
0:04:22commitment to being wet it's not it is
0:04:27like buying hip-waders right you want
0:04:28you want like you real now you're gonna
0:04:30find someplace where you could really
0:04:31get in the water
0:04:32yeah but you're gonna be I mean it's wax
0:04:34cotton and wool it's the old style of
0:04:38dealing with the rain which is like i am
0:04:41going to be
0:04:43wet in the rain and I'm gonna be smelly
0:04:46in the rain but i'm not going to die
0:04:48like a sheepdog
0:04:49yeah i'm not going to die in the rain
0:04:51because i have this somewhat like
0:04:53impenetrable material on but i am not
0:04:57i'm not trying to do this like Healy
0:04:59handsome thing where I step out of my
0:05:01rain gear and I'm just dry and it's a
0:05:04it's much more of a like I'm going to
0:05:06live in the in the rain
0:05:08that's interesting is my lady actually
0:05:10has a healing Hanson I think it's a
0:05:12yachting I'm you can't use the word
0:05:14yachting without sounding like an
0:05:16asshole but I it's down to like I think
0:05:18it actually has like a little bored hole
0:05:20we can put a rope through and stuff yeah
0:05:22sure
0:05:23and that boy is that ever you can just
0:05:24shoot water that thing all day long as
0:05:25laugh at you
0:05:26so here it's so all of the Alaskan
0:05:28fisherman they before they go up to
0:05:31their new season they all go around and
0:05:35they get a new season's worth of healy
0:05:37Hanson stuff and it's like a suit you
0:05:42know and it's impervious it's truly I
0:05:46mean if Alaska fishermen choose it then
0:05:50you can be guaranteed that there isn't a
0:05:52better thing maybe we should fill in
0:05:53some blanks for people who are in places
0:05:54that have rain but we're talking about
0:05:57it sounds seems to me like we're talking
0:05:58about a distinction with Wilson you've
0:06:01got some old-world technologies in
0:06:04please try some some basically medieval
0:06:07starways of waxing a sheep or something
0:06:09so you can put it on
0:06:10whereas in the other camp over here
0:06:12interesting with my right hand you've
0:06:14got more of what I will call technicals
0:06:15you've got things like you've got modern
0:06:17modern fabrics modern materials and
0:06:19methods to have a light maybe it's not
0:06:21working
0:06:22it might have working that's right
0:06:23working isn't a big part of having
0:06:25technical is working well you know
0:06:27wicking that's it then you get into your
0:06:28polypropylenes I feel like there are the
0:06:31people who say who so so it's a as your
0:06:36as the lightness of the fabric the light
0:06:40not just light-colored but like light
0:06:44could like the less you feel the garment
0:06:47be made it maybe it's waterproofness is
0:06:52there but its hardiness goes away so
0:06:55like when I
0:06:56in seattle in the northwest if you see a
0:06:59alignment up on a phone pole in the dead
0:07:03of winter changing some transformer
0:07:07uh-huh in Seattle
0:07:09there's a very good chance he's gonna be
0:07:10wearing filson because it's not just
0:07:13that he wants to be protected against
0:07:16the elements but he's also doing hard
0:07:19work up a phone pole in the window right
0:07:21it's like almost like I was I've been a
0:07:23fan of the carhartt product line in the
0:07:24past that like those like a logging
0:07:27pants those pants with like that the
0:07:28extra me and I'm like you can't kill
0:07:29those things you can climb up all day
0:07:31long it would make a scratch and and
0:07:33feels the same except that except the
0:07:35car it's like the carhartt pants was
0:07:36then additionally dipped in hot wax and
0:07:39allow to cool and really appealing he
0:07:42had some amazing it's amazing when you
0:07:44see lineman in them you realize like oh
0:07:47this is a guy who could pick any he
0:07:50needs his clothes to be like a like a
0:07:53suit of armor another it's another tool
0:07:55yeah and it's these are not expensive
0:07:57items but are not inexpensive items but
0:07:59he has chosen them because it's
0:08:01necessary and and Healy Hanson it's not
0:08:04something you would want to ski in right
0:08:06it's not something that you would want a
0:08:08mountain bike in or or do any kind of
0:08:11like we kind of things it's stuff that I
0:08:15mean when you are honored on a fishing
0:08:17boat in Alaska the weather becomes the
0:08:20weather becomes sentient it is
0:08:23absolutely trying to kill you it is
0:08:25trying to it is trying to drown you on
0:08:27your feet like as you stand the weather
0:08:30is trying to cause you to suffocate in
0:08:33water business and so the Healey Hanson
0:08:35stuff is for that and and also your
0:08:38you're like pulling monsters out of an
0:08:42iron Gracie which is only not frozen
0:08:47because its ocean it's too mad to be
0:08:50frozen
0:08:51you're pulling monsters out of the
0:08:53depths of this and killing them with
0:08:56hooks and so that's so it's a different
0:08:59kind of gear then if you're like
0:09:01snowboarding right right and so as you
0:09:05get up but if you're snowboarding you
0:09:07don't want to be covered with all this
0:09:08weird
0:09:10like bulletproof fabric you just kind of
0:09:12want to stay warm and dry
0:09:13that's a series of trade off so it's a
0:09:15continuum like columbia sportswear
0:09:17company which is a company from up here
0:09:19that stuff will keep you warm and dry
0:09:22I'm looking at one right now that looks
0:09:24like it's right in my wheelhouse and
0:09:27this is the looking at the columbia is
0:09:33this jacket but the thing is it's it's
0:09:35it's very wide purporting to this review
0:09:37on the site i enjoy cool tools they say
0:09:39that it is it's good it's very warm but
0:09:42like you can even wear for too long as
0:09:44you can so warm and look it's very good
0:09:46at repelling water and it's got a hood
0:09:49but you really look like you work at
0:09:51uber yeah you know that look
0:09:54oh yeah I do and and that's the that is
0:09:57the modern trade off now in the old days
0:10:00eddie bauer was the was the company that
0:10:04made stuff that was like it was burly
0:10:07enough but also you could you could wear
0:10:11it in town
0:10:12uh-huh or you know you could wear it up
0:10:14on the mountain you can wear it in town
0:10:15you didn't look like a dork but eddie
0:10:17bauer went any powers went the wrong way
0:10:20they sold their soul to the man and then
0:10:24everything like the the other day we
0:10:26were trying i was driving with the
0:10:28friend who's in town it was Halloween
0:10:30and we a couple of people are trying to
0:10:33get across the street you know we in the
0:10:35northwest if somebody stands on the edge
0:10:37of the sidewalk and looks at you you are
0:10:39obligated to stop and let them cross the
0:10:41street that is this the cultural norm
0:10:44here and may even be the law although
0:10:47the cops never stopped for you you stand
0:10:49on the sidewalk and stare right at them
0:10:50and they'll just look at look straight
0:10:52ahead and keep driving shark eyes but
0:10:54the rest of us are expected to stop for
0:10:56our fellow citizens and these two you
0:10:59know they're probably early sixties
0:11:01they're both wearing Outdoor Research
0:11:06hats which are kind of a strange hybrid
0:11:10of like an Australian bush hat except
0:11:13it's made out of cortex and it has it
0:11:16has strings you know it's like a chin
0:11:18rope sure i caii thought that a dad hat
0:11:21it's a little bit of a dad
0:11:22but but but mom and dad are both wearing
0:11:25these hats and they're wearing the
0:11:27requisite like purple fleece some cortex
0:11:32some you know the like cargo pants by a
0:11:35company called cool which is K uhl cool
0:11:39with them i think there's even a whom
0:11:42lot in there where their logo has a
0:11:44mountain in the background
0:11:45enough already and and they've got some
0:11:48kind of Solomon adventure shoe and just
0:11:52making up words no no and I'm and I'm
0:11:54looking at across the street tonight and
0:11:56i turn my but my lady friend and I'm
0:11:58like is that a halloween costume
0:12:00I mean they are so Northwest I'm coming
0:12:04as everyone in the Pacific Northwest
0:12:05yeah it's like it's it's ludicrous the
0:12:08only thing they need right now our ski
0:12:10poles that they're using to go on a
0:12:12brisk walk right maybe like carrying
0:12:14carrying a coffee a locally sourced
0:12:16coffee and riding a hoverboard
0:12:18mm that's the those who haven't yet you
0:12:21can hover boards around now that's the
0:12:23young people think these these people
0:12:24are like they are ready to go up Mount
0:12:27Baker right now except they're not
0:12:30anywhere near Mount Baker City replay
0:12:32people look like you could its you could
0:12:34i've also many it's difficult to tell
0:12:36are they going out for half and half are
0:12:38they on their way to climb Mount Tam or
0:12:41are potentially going to a wine tasting
0:12:44that's where there's a certain kind of
0:12:45fleece upscale fleece that people wear
0:12:48to all of those things
0:12:49yeah and-and-and for me the moment that
0:12:53the moment that like fleece became
0:12:56flannel right when police became flannel
0:13:00there was a there was a sea change in
0:13:04all of our lives like there was flannel
0:13:08for long long time and you know flannel
0:13:11and like moleskine and then there was
0:13:15police and once there was police certain
0:13:17certain large segment of the population
0:13:20up here just never thought about clothes
0:13:23again
0:13:24and interesting yes
0:13:28yeah you know it's funny uh-uh I don't
0:13:30know I'm again that we always get the
0:13:31word wrong is it inertia but there's
0:13:33something happened something comes along
0:13:34and there's different trends and all the
0:13:36sudden there's a thing there goes oh
0:13:37yeah that's for me the boot boot came
0:13:39along and suddenly like I guess every
0:13:42young woman who want to look like she
0:13:43just woke up I was wearing boots in
0:13:45boosting your yoga pants and put the
0:13:48other pants
0:13:49I mean yoga pants yoga pants look I'm
0:13:51pro yoga pants don't get me yeah well
0:13:54you know you never know when you just
0:13:55might need to do some yoga sure it goes
0:13:58somewhere maybe you got a hot Sam you go
0:14:00to an orange julius uh-huh well the
0:14:03thing about yoga pants like that
0:14:04somewhere along the line the technology
0:14:06of pants changed so that they were they
0:14:10were but lifting pants have wondered
0:14:12about that it has a brassiere like
0:14:14quality yes yes and then I what I
0:14:17accomplished that if I were you up and I
0:14:18don't know I honestly don't know i think
0:14:20if i put on yoga pants that it would be
0:14:23bad it would be bad luck to see you in
0:14:26yoga pants but there was there was a
0:14:28time when I was when I was in my teens
0:14:30even where there were not that many
0:14:34pants that made your butt look good it
0:14:39was and you have to have a certain kind
0:14:41of but you use definitely to certain
0:14:43kind of but you're right there didn't
0:14:45used to be used to be you could have
0:14:46like formal so you can have a formal
0:14:48slack
0:14:48mmm you can have whatever looks good no
0:14:51no you couldn't know absolutely no no
0:14:53absolutely not that's why you got to
0:14:54have the flap that goes over the back
0:14:55with events that's right ok i'm using
0:14:57basically every closed word that I know
0:14:59at this point and then you got you got
0:15:01your doctor stockies you know maybe with
0:15:04the pleated front of I know your family
0:15:05pleaded from even before dockers existed
0:15:08right i mean i'm thinking about nineteen
0:15:10eighty-four whatever if you wanted to
0:15:12grab your butt look good
0:15:13what did you do I mean you could wear
0:15:15Levi's if you have Levi's but but not
0:15:17everybody has a Levi's but oh no oh no I
0:15:20think jonathan richman his whole song
0:15:22about this
0:15:23oh well I mean it's about genes but i
0:15:25think by extension it's about butts is
0:15:27that you know we don't all have the kind
0:15:29of but that one would want to show off
0:15:31and i think a Levi's style pants
0:15:33generally is a little bit more hanging
0:15:35we're talking at this point 84 you're
0:15:38really talking about the the twilight of
0:15:40the Jordache and take over the
0:15:43Vanderbilt gloria vanderbilt years
0:15:45yeah sure live live in Britannia all
0:15:47that stuff is about some high-waisted
0:15:48jeans talking about a high waisted jean
0:15:51it's a dark rinse and it's very but
0:15:54centric and I think we're seeing the
0:15:56twilight of the but pan at that point
0:15:58but I always felt like those highways to
0:16:00gloria vanderbilt jeans were like if
0:16:01you're if you have a pair but if your
0:16:03butt looks like a pair huh
0:16:05then something I'm sorry just to clarify
0:16:07because the audio single pair up i'm
0:16:10sorry/not pair PA ir going up there the
0:16:14bear fruit PE AR care if you're like
0:16:18adults chin you got like a little bit of
0:16:20up
0:16:21yeah yeah okay right now I mean that if
0:16:22it looks like a Bartlett pear let's say
0:16:24right Barlow pair then you can wear
0:16:27gloria vanderbilt jeans you look
0:16:28fantastic little blue pair huh a denim
0:16:32pair right one who doesn't want that but
0:16:34if you have any kind of lumpy butt or
0:16:36square but or whatever maybe get a plum
0:16:39but or like a plum but now you can buy
0:16:43you might have some kind of a
0:16:43little-little who is a melon I don't
0:16:46mean in the sense of like you know you
0:16:49no pickup truck sighs I'm talking about
0:16:50more like you've just gotta like a
0:16:52misshapen cantaloupe
0:16:54yeah regularly and with bumps and lumps
0:16:56and stuff for your god I mean you don't
0:16:58want your butt to look like it's in a
0:16:59bag right so but then then one day and
0:17:05that would happen in the late nineties
0:17:07be seven for all mankind jeans arrived
0:17:11which had some crazy technology which
0:17:15are was all constructed in denim they
0:17:17didn't there wasn't any it's not like
0:17:20there was a wire underpinning but all of
0:17:24a sudden seven for all mankind jeans
0:17:26arrived and everyone could wear our
0:17:28mentor i'm talking about women now
0:17:29everyone could wear them and they look
0:17:31great on everybody was just like what
0:17:34happened why didn't we know how to do
0:17:35this before they just ran their sewing
0:17:38machines through this denim in a
0:17:39slightly different way and now that they
0:17:41look amazing on everything that's insane
0:17:43it's like how he discovered flat iron
0:17:44steak you start you can start cutting
0:17:46the steer a different angle you get a
0:17:48Dutch angle
0:17:49and then you're able to find an entire
0:17:50state nobody ever discovered before your
0:17:51I've never heard of seven for all
0:17:52mankind i'm looking at it now you're
0:17:54telling me they came up with some kind
0:17:56of technology that will enable you to
0:17:57depending on a bias you're doing some
0:18:00kind of verticality the kids a special
0:18:02lift and gravitas
0:18:04let's that's right that's right and then
0:18:06yoga pants came out employing what i can
0:18:09only imagine is the same technology
0:18:10except in like stretchy sweat pants
0:18:13material that then they I'm sure do
0:18:16wicking they will play with the shit out
0:18:18of you
0:18:19I guess their primary performance
0:18:20characteristic probably waking and yoga
0:18:23pants look amazing on everybody and all
0:18:25of a sudden it just made me feel like
0:18:27all of all in all through my teen years
0:18:29and twenties we didn't have this
0:18:31technology and now we do and I think the
0:18:34world has been improved huh
0:18:36okay less less less stress even if
0:18:39you're not wearing it all the time you
0:18:40know it's out there it's like well says
0:18:43and so today I that's where is that I
0:18:46didn't it didn't take it took me a
0:18:48second
0:18:48oh yes just exactly like ninjas I walked
0:18:52out of the house today i'm wearing
0:18:53skinny jeans i'm a man in middle age
0:18:55wearing these skinny jeans that are
0:18:58basically leggings let's let's call a
0:19:01spade a spade
0:19:02i I just it's just like a cut the
0:19:04stirrups off the bottom of Paris stirrup
0:19:06pants and I'm walking around in them and
0:19:09and I presume I look cool and I think
0:19:12everybody agrees they look very cool
0:19:15this is not this is not a thing that
0:19:17would have been possible before
0:19:19yeah right it's a kind of it's a kind of
0:19:21technology that I have hardly embraced
0:19:24can't believe how different genes can
0:19:26feel your pants really just pants in
0:19:28general and because first of all I mean
0:19:30is this basic problem of my gosh where
0:19:32to begin but there's a whole problem of
0:19:34when you're doing a lot of like you know
0:19:36when you've got children making pants in
0:19:38Asia is going to be some variations so
0:19:41like I learned a long time ago you
0:19:42should actually try on a couple
0:19:43different pairs even if it's just jeans
0:19:45wow I've never done that that's it's not
0:19:47a bad idea I've had some lady friends
0:19:48that would never consider just certainly
0:19:51not just buying them off the rack you
0:19:53try them on your mattress several pairs
0:19:54line but the less expensive fancier
0:19:56clothes get the more likely are they are
0:19:58to be like well made and consistently
0:20:00made and to be true to size but let go
0:20:02go look
0:20:02sighs your pants now and not those pants
0:20:04but your other pants you look at your
0:20:05501 we talked about this
0:20:06it might be hom Mexico it might be a cho
0:20:09and in China you there's all kinds of
0:20:11places where the HR jeans at this point
0:20:13hmm you know and so the thing is you try
0:20:16that on and the variations i mean i can
0:20:18get pretty sloppy you can get you can
0:20:20get some serious fruit but without even
0:20:22intending well yeah I made a decision
0:20:25not very long ago that i did not want to
0:20:28buy anything anymore that was a cho in
0:20:32China
0:20:32Wow and it wasn't because i'm against
0:20:36China it was just a decision that i
0:20:39needed to i needed to just set some
0:20:41limits on things right you need you need
0:20:44to you need to define the space and
0:20:48friends want to make these big sweeping
0:20:50changes but like you can actually be
0:20:51very profound to make a change even as
0:20:53small as nature in China
0:20:54yeah you just youyou you you defense off
0:20:57the garden to keep the deer out and so
0:21:01for me it was just like there's a lot of
0:21:03stuff being made in China right now and
0:21:07so if I just decide not to buy any of it
0:21:10that protects me from too much just that
0:21:15I mean it it it makes the first decision
0:21:18for me it's already made nothing made in
0:21:21china so thing shows up I look at it is
0:21:23made in china no thank you
0:21:25and it's just a way of sorting and then
0:21:29and then I had to make some decisions
0:21:32right because there's a lot of stuff
0:21:33that says made in Hong Kong or made in
0:21:36Macau uh-huh
0:21:38now would you say that those were made
0:21:41in China have to have to google it
0:21:43are those are or no so what about the
0:21:46one with the PRC or you got isn't there
0:21:49to get the People's Republic oh you're
0:21:51talk about Taiwan is that I want and
0:21:53then you could have done that is that
0:21:54technically part of China well and I
0:21:56mean depending on who you ask if you ask
0:21:58someone in china right they're going to
0:22:01say that Taiwan is part of China but if
0:22:03you have someone in taiwan they're going
0:22:05to say no right no one is not part of
0:22:07China it is its own but it's not exactly
0:22:09the kind of thing that factor in your
0:22:11decision you're scratching your head
0:22:12wondering where this is HL well the
0:22:14thing is I feel like it
0:22:16in in my in my sort of worldview right i
0:22:19support taiwan because they have decided
0:22:24that they're not part of China and I
0:22:25support them
0:22:26china deciding that Taiwan is still part
0:22:29of China if they just are currently
0:22:31administered by a by a rogue government
0:22:35I don't support that because you simply
0:22:37because i think China is big enough and
0:22:40Taiwan can be its own thing it should be
0:22:42its own thing it's something I in fact I
0:22:44have a good friend whose families from
0:22:46taiwan and he is feel strongly about it
0:22:49and so I support my friend now
0:22:52Macau and Hong Kong both were their own
0:22:59colonies right hong kong was a colony of
0:23:03the United Kingdom and Macau is a colony
0:23:06of Portugal and they were like they were
0:23:09like city city states where they you
0:23:15know I think macau was big in the opium
0:23:17trade and you know gambling they were
0:23:20like sin city's hong kong was more of an
0:23:23administrative city after a while the
0:23:26brits used it to administer their
0:23:27long-term far-flung Empire huh
0:23:31but then times changed and in in the
0:23:36late nineties are the whenever's the
0:23:39nineties both of those things so this is
0:23:41what's crazy to me they were basically
0:23:45least like it's one of those 99-year
0:23:47leases where you sign a 99-year lease
0:23:49and you're like when I'm gonna be dead
0:23:51before this lease expires
0:23:53what is what even is a 99-year lease
0:23:56well that's one of those things like a
0:23:58Steve Jobs a dollar a year that kind of
0:24:00thing
0:24:00well i got i know a guy here i used to
0:24:02live in a building like an old warehouse
0:24:04here where the guy who owned it didn't
0:24:08really own it he had a 99-year lease and
0:24:12he was he was saving area I mean he was
0:24:15he fixed up the building just enough
0:24:17that it could inhabit people and then it
0:24:20was just like a rent generator for him
0:24:22he couldn't I don't think we develop the
0:24:26property and he could maybe subs
0:24:29LOL his lease i'm not really sure 99
0:24:32year lease I mean he's going to be dead
0:24:33long time before that but he has this
0:24:3799-year lease on the thing so anyway the
0:24:40Great Britain and Portugal had these
0:24:41leases of these cities and one day they
0:24:44came up they come came up in China was
0:24:47like we don't renew your lease or
0:24:48whatever and the last vestige of that
0:24:52brand of colonialism and so both cities
0:24:55hong kong and macau returned to the
0:24:58return to China and they're like a
0:25:01special administration area one of those
0:25:04things so you pick up a shirt and it
0:25:08says made in Macau and you go out at
0:25:10least it's not made in china and then
0:25:12you go wait a minute that's just that
0:25:15some label trickery
0:25:17uh huh yeah you look at your phone and
0:25:20it will say you know so worried like an
0:25:22apple devices will frequently say
0:25:23something like designing California
0:25:25movie babilona yeah kinda made a stoner
0:25:30assembled assembled in austin mhm
0:25:33assembled in austin i don't know why but
0:25:36they they used to say it used to say you
0:25:39know everything you tell it's made in
0:25:40America thinking well it's but there's
0:25:43real switcheroo because there's some
0:25:44parts that come from here and there gets
0:25:46made in china and then it comes back
0:25:48here and I don't think they polish it
0:25:50here or something to put in the box i'm
0:25:51not sure
0:25:52yeah it's funny when you buy when you
0:25:53buy i just got my lady and I felt for
0:25:56her birthday and you'll see it's when it
0:25:59ships out of shells n so it's called the
0:26:02segment goes to Hong Kong and then make
0:26:04the big jump to ontario california but
0:26:06yeah you'll see that it's coming is
0:26:08coming right out of China
0:26:09I don't know what's amazing i think
0:26:11about Hong Kong and Macau is that they
0:26:13both are they both somehow have kept one
0:26:16foot in the capitalist world cow was
0:26:20Blake's they still gamble there it's
0:26:22like a James Bond town everything is a
0:26:26popular pastime in my neighborhood
0:26:28oh right the plan mahjongg there's
0:26:31mahjong there's mahjong fronts and there
0:26:35are places that are nominally you know
0:26:37bodega style convenience type stores
0:26:40that's basically it's just six
0:26:43elderly Chinese guys staring at Aquino
0:26:45screen when you say when you say mahjong
0:26:49front do you mean like people get a new
0:26:51set of teeth but they're made out of
0:26:53mahjong tiles
0:26:54yes it's not a chinese bridge not to be
0:26:57confused with contract bridge
0:26:58according to Hoyle now just totally
0:27:00different thing now
0:27:01no but that's a that's a I think
0:27:03gambling i think gambling is a big
0:27:05cultural thing in am I I can't say that
0:27:09for all of China China's a very big
0:27:10country but there are a lot of Chinese
0:27:12old especially older chinese guys and my
0:27:14neighborhood really are any camera and
0:27:16the young folks do they play a lot of
0:27:17cards if I just cards on the street all
0:27:19the time
0:27:19I mean this might be happening in other
0:27:21neighborhoods I can only speak from my
0:27:22own but so I don't know anything about
0:27:24macau I don't think I know anything
0:27:26about the cow
0:27:27yeah yeah watching that documentary
0:27:28about the Indonesian genocide I think
0:27:30they were a Portuguese what Protectorate
0:27:34colony calling all the colony
0:27:36yeah account look at that yeah you know
0:27:38the Portuguese had a strange man strange
0:27:41little Empire they were big ship people
0:27:43right
0:27:44they had a lot of ships yeah my
0:27:46experience in Portugal which is I mean
0:27:49not the world's most extensive
0:27:50experience but I've spent a good goodly
0:27:52amount of time in Portugal more than I
0:27:55ever expected I would do and you know
0:27:57the I think the tendency for us here in
0:28:00the United States is to think that
0:28:01Portugal is I don't know some flange of
0:28:05Spain yes like it's like spain jr but
0:28:08when you get to Portugal you realize
0:28:10that they really are different from the
0:28:12Spanish they look different they act
0:28:14different they are they are different
0:28:17and it's because they like hug this wild
0:28:21Atlantic coast and they just look
0:28:23they're more rugged mm-hmm
0:28:26and what if you ever want to know
0:28:28there's a difference just ask a
0:28:29Portuguese person who I'll see that's
0:28:30the thing if you ask a Spanish person
0:28:32they're going to say that there's no
0:28:33difference but if you ask a Portuguese
0:28:35person it's kind of like Portugal is the
0:28:37taiwan of of Spain cowboy and well you
0:28:41know in Rhode Island where my ladies
0:28:42from there are a lot of Portuguese
0:28:44people and I mean it really confuses the
0:28:46culture that's where they're very i hope
0:28:49this isn't too ping pong but they're
0:28:50very they're garrulous like very
0:28:52outgoing are very emotional people and
0:28:55it's
0:28:56it's kind of a fun vibe yeah wait for
0:28:58these food and I'm not so crazy they
0:29:00don't want a greasy fish there
0:29:02yeah and it's sort of like the Basques
0:29:04the Basque love a greasy fish it because
0:29:08it keeps their keep their pelts really
0:29:11soft anything told knows that that's
0:29:14that's good right
0:29:15I just recently met a person of Basque
0:29:19extraction and it caused me to think
0:29:22about you know a new friend and they
0:29:25caused me to
0:29:26I've also spent some time in basque
0:29:29country and i and i love it there and
0:29:31but i but then i was like wait a minute
0:29:34what the Basques do in World War two
0:29:38I have a pretty good sense of what
0:29:39everybody did during World War Two and I
0:29:42I treat people from European countries
0:29:45differently based on what my
0:29:46preconceived notion of what their
0:29:48grandfather did in World War two is
0:29:50right i kind of like oh hello nice to
0:29:53meet you
0:29:53I know what your grandfather did in
0:29:55World War two don't try and Buffalo me
0:29:57mr. i know what your grand like a
0:30:00terrible or movie had fun with work to
0:30:03you know it's one of those things where
0:30:05it's like you go into somebody's house
0:30:07and that you know what what people's
0:30:09grandfather's in Bavaria did in World
0:30:11War two is very different than what
0:30:13people grandfather's in the amber too
0:30:14much so much to say about this i'm
0:30:16looking at the page about Basque so
0:30:17baskets kinda like it's a little bit
0:30:19Spain little bit France little bit
0:30:20country little bit rock and roll yet so
0:30:22that it goes up into France it goes down
0:30:24into Spain and there you know and they
0:30:26kind of consider themselves as sort of a
0:30:28single tribe except you know the French
0:30:30Basques obviously her i'll say gracious
0:30:32loyal it was a Basque that's exactly
0:30:35right and he founded the Jesuits so the
0:30:38Basques you know very separate group of
0:30:40people their languages is to linguists
0:30:43it has no like analog in any other
0:30:47language in the world it is not an
0:30:49indo-european language it is a cookie
0:30:52why language that someone one day
0:30:54invented who lived up in the in the
0:30:57crazy Hills in northern Spain and I no
0:31:00one knows where it came from and no one
0:31:02it it doesn't behave like other
0:31:03languages
0:31:04it's a little bit you know it has it's
0:31:07one of those things where it's like
0:31:08well finish there's some there's some
0:31:12crazy aspect of finish like her go
0:31:16Hungarian languages which are similar to
0:31:18Japanese and really and nobody can
0:31:21understand how that's one reason I find
0:31:22Portuguese so interesting that up uh
0:31:24ruin my roommate for a while and
0:31:26military school was from portugal and
0:31:28when he would speak you know you hear on
0:31:30the phone talking to his family and he
0:31:32never spoke it you know there weren't a
0:31:33lot of Portuguese kids there but one out
0:31:34here I always said was so strange
0:31:36because it sounded to my twelve-year-old
0:31:38here
0:31:39it sounded almost exactly like a cross
0:31:41between spanish and german it had a lot
0:31:43of that group of the glottal kind of you
0:31:45know gotta roll filled up German but
0:31:47also the kind of like that little thing
0:31:48romance feel of spanish i feel like the
0:31:51gutter reality of Portuguese developed
0:31:55because they were shouting at each other
0:31:56across the deck of a ship that was in a
0:31:58storm
0:31:59I said that you know that i think they
0:32:01call it an adaptation with no answer key
0:32:02so call evolution
0:32:03Yeah right right right right yes because
0:32:06if you just if you you're not gonna be
0:32:07up there you know you know this is why
0:32:09the Italians never c never sailed is
0:32:11because it was too hard for them to yell
0:32:12over the wind it's not about selling a
0:32:14poem rights right that's why the
0:32:16Italians uh yeah they days whether it's
0:32:19like an unlocked
0:32:20they just stayed in Italy and they never
0:32:21got in boats because they didn't want it
0:32:23because their language which she was
0:32:25John about the you know what you know
0:32:29what it's shaped like a boat that shaped
0:32:31like a boot that's true i think that's a
0:32:33really good point but I but so the
0:32:35Basques that you know that their
0:32:37territory is very mountainous and if you
0:32:40were trying to invade and conquer those
0:32:43people you would fail which is why they
0:32:45did not they were not conquered they got
0:32:47two things go on their side they got a
0:32:48language were no it's like Stonehenge
0:32:50nobody knows where it came from and then
0:32:52you've also got the mountains united
0:32:54nations against any kind of a attack you
0:32:56can't get in can't get out and then when
0:32:58you get there it's hard to ask for
0:32:59directions because we like you know from
0:33:00here
0:33:01that's right you're not speaking the
0:33:02this and unintelligible language you can
0:33:03even learn it's like Navajo code talker
0:33:05you how many a pastor on united states
0:33:08well you know what i do i do know one
0:33:10thing about the Basques in the United
0:33:11States which is that they settled in
0:33:13idaho what the bellaire 57,000 793
0:33:17according to wikipedia and but 193 well
0:33:20as we don't come
0:33:21but never like that accidentally
0:33:22somebody had to see where that came from
0:33:25I think that my friend who is a basket
0:33:27got in here unbeknownst to wikipedia and
0:33:30she doesn't she's not be encountered in
0:33:32that figure because she because there
0:33:34was an intermediary relationship where
0:33:36she lived in knowing John no one knows
0:33:38how to ask her
0:33:40probably well that's right what do you
0:33:41what do you say like I mean not
0:33:43everybody that comes into the country
0:33:45gets asked i I've gone through customs
0:33:47enough times to know that they don't ask
0:33:48if you're Basque well-known they might
0:33:51misunderstand think your last name is
0:33:53actually the city are from make a chalk
0:33:54mark on your tagged and put in
0:33:55quarantine I'll see exactly right and
0:33:57then all of a sudden you're walking
0:33:58around Corleone here but that's right
0:34:01that's right yeah so a but i'll but i
0:34:03love that part of the world and they eat
0:34:05a lot of greasy fish but that's
0:34:07delicious wonderful i did I used to
0:34:09think I was not a greasy fish guy but
0:34:11then i had had some sardines in other
0:34:15categories your bow
0:34:17yeah you know like like the the herring
0:34:19the herrings from the herring family and
0:34:22they're just laying out these gigantic
0:34:24Greece fish and like I hope you like
0:34:28these and I I was like Hello
0:34:30but then i am and i said i do like them
0:34:33I understand what you're doing up here
0:34:34in bilbao I get it now but that but what
0:34:38I didn't know was what their
0:34:39grandfathers did in World War two and so
0:34:42I started a little bit of i started
0:34:44rabbit holding as you do about Fresno no
0:34:47I rabbit hole about friends know this
0:34:49morning but I rabbit hold about the
0:34:50Basques in World War two the morning
0:34:52trying to figure out a fortune for
0:34:53carpenters gay
0:34:54what did you come up with I'm like maybe
0:34:56a third of the way in right it's one
0:34:58that's not super clear this and I feel
0:35:00like that's where I am with the Basques
0:35:01in world war two and a third of the way
0:35:02and okay i figured out you know because
0:35:05the thing is that there is that whole
0:35:06business right spain was we get the get
0:35:09the get the fascist right there just
0:35:12coming off the the big war in the
0:35:13thirties that's right but there
0:35:15ostensibly neutral in the war and a lot
0:35:18of Allied Pilots that got shot down over
0:35:20France did that the French underground
0:35:22would take them down hand them over to
0:35:24the Basques the Basques would get them
0:35:27across into Spain and then the
0:35:29neutrality of of Spain would allow those
0:35:33pilots to find their way back
0:35:34come even though the Spanish were pretty
0:35:37allied with the Nazis but there was
0:35:40enough of a you know they would they be
0:35:41maintained enough of a sort of like
0:35:43neutral posture that Allied Pilots could
0:35:45get over there and then I realized that
0:35:48neighboring the basque country is a is
0:35:53the hollandaise sauce County oh that
0:35:59Belgium know it's a burn burn bear you
0:36:01no bare knees are barren that's
0:36:04excellent
0:36:05well no it's it's this it's like the
0:36:07coming holidays is not from Dutch no
0:36:09that's what's amazing about its of me
0:36:11I'm branch that's and and that then this
0:36:14Bearnaise so I don't think the sauce is
0:36:18actually from Baron what about béchamel
0:36:20where's that from
0:36:21I'm sure they're all from France there
0:36:22there were no sausage before friends is
0:36:25that right
0:36:26there's all their idea before that
0:36:27people only had dry drying meets yeah it
0:36:30probably is probably boiled vegetables
0:36:32yeah they thought no thought of sauce
0:36:33they put it put everything in a pot
0:36:35boiled it through some salt and some
0:36:37dirt in that was one on Z and then the
0:36:41French were like what if we made an
0:36:42emulsification of mayonnaise and through
0:36:45like some tarragon in it and then the
0:36:49world was forever changed em but all
0:36:53those sauces i think i think they did
0:36:55they came from the north but they were
0:36:56called the they named it
0:36:58béarnaise because they don't know
0:37:00because it was they were doing somebody
0:37:02an honor right like oh you're from Baron
0:37:05we're going to name it béarnaise your
0:37:07name is sauce for you and there's a
0:37:10marshal of France but they're called the
0:37:12God sauces I stand corrected it's the
0:37:14mother sauces mother sauces sasa
0:37:16associate mommy air you've got the best
0:37:19email you got s spy spagnoli it's got it
0:37:25only ESP hele and I've ever heard that
0:37:29holidays to tomahto and veloute oh
0:37:32that's the mother sauces and so a new
0:37:34mommy Oh mommy I think that's the one on
0:37:36the back of the tongue that the Japanese
0:37:38discovered yeah we struggle at all with
0:37:40these distinctions with your daughter
0:37:42she characters my daughter is is really
0:37:45becoming a very profound cultural critic
0:37:48she has no idea what she's talking about
0:37:49your waiver of songs now no sauce is
0:37:52lots always challenging she must like a
0:37:54little bit of butter but not too much
0:37:55but when it comes to like she almost
0:37:57exactly always exactly gets japanese and
0:38:00chinese things confused she thinks anime
0:38:03is from China and she and she thinks
0:38:05that did you know the stuff we got from
0:38:06chinese restaurants Japanese oh IC uh
0:38:09the Marlins pretty I think she can hang
0:38:13with the fact that there are she's just
0:38:16learning about there being people from
0:38:18all around because she's grown up in a
0:38:20culture where there were kids of every
0:38:23kind of race ethnicity around her so she
0:38:25never she didn't understand that there
0:38:28was any difference between people just
0:38:29based on their color or she doesn't
0:38:32think that there is and but she does
0:38:36appreciate the people are speaking
0:38:37different languages right which he
0:38:39thinks is fascinating and she's just at
0:38:42the age where she's starting to kind of
0:38:43try and imitate them which you know what
0:38:45it's like
0:38:46well that's as do that are inside voice
0:38:49yeah that's fun that's fun to do but
0:38:51it's also an inside voice thing and the
0:38:53other day she was wearing she's wearing
0:38:55black pants and a black shirt and she
0:38:57was running around saying I'm a black
0:38:58girl I'm a black girl and it was like
0:39:02that's exactly what you are and yet
0:39:05that's not a thing that we can shout at
0:39:07the mall and so that you know we're
0:39:11right at the stage where I don't want to
0:39:12get into her little mind and start
0:39:14filling it with all of our adult human
0:39:16like anger and frustration and bullshit
0:39:19right now I totally that's part of the
0:39:21struggle
0:39:22yeah i think you mean alsace-lorraine I
0:39:24mean when we're in when we're in
0:39:26chinatown in their people speaking
0:39:27Chinese all around us and my
0:39:29four-year-old goes Jeong Jeong I go I I
0:39:35uh I don't want this I don't want to
0:39:38start right yet like stomping on your
0:39:43enthusiasm with our like intermediary
0:39:47problems you know I don't want to lean
0:39:49down and say say anything but I also
0:39:53don't want her to like you know the
0:39:56better their ninety-nine percent of the
0:39:58people in chinatown are going to give a
0:40:00shit and they're gonna think it's cute
0:40:01and funny but there's always gonna be
0:40:02somebody who has their up often since
0:40:06Apple it's on
0:40:09I did but it is also always fun to hear
0:40:11like if you asked anybody this is not
0:40:13something you would you would probably
0:40:14do it south by southwest or maybe you
0:40:16would do this XOXO but you can see that
0:40:18somebody like what is its what is a
0:40:19Vietnamese written language styling was
0:40:23German sound like or any of those you
0:40:25know you just imitate a Canadian person
0:40:26was fascinating though is to hear people
0:40:28in other countries doing what they think
0:40:30an American accent sounds like yeah and
0:40:32you realize like how how dominant uni
0:40:35and weird we sound well I've never told
0:40:38that story about the when i was at
0:40:41Gonzaga a good friend of mine had a
0:40:43roommate who was from Japan and who was
0:40:45learning English sort of in college and
0:40:49a bright guy na like a he was a great a
0:40:53great guy and ended up being a really
0:40:55good friend but when he first arrived he
0:40:59knew I think he knew more English than
0:41:02he was comfortable speaking but he did
0:41:04not really speak English and so after a
0:41:07while of a kind of hanging out and and
0:41:09introducing him to american beer and so
0:41:12forth
0:41:13one of us one of us said I think it was
0:41:18my friend Bob said when you are in japan
0:41:20and talking to Japanese friends how do
0:41:22you imitate Americans like what do
0:41:24Americans sound like and he was like
0:41:25what are you talking about was we had to
0:41:27explain like what it was and by way of
0:41:30explanation way we said you know when we
0:41:33imitate Japanese are like also chung
0:41:35talking or whatever right and he was he
0:41:39like you can see the light bulb go off
0:41:41and he was like all right I get it and
0:41:43he likes to do with his feet apart wide
0:41:47apart wide stance
0:41:48and he said I'm gonna bang bang bang
0:41:51bang and we were like oh and we all got
0:41:55really sad isn't exactly what you don't
0:41:58want to hear ya we slide back in our in
0:42:01our like Randy couches we're like a
0:42:03hamburger hamburger bang bang Chicago
0:42:05bank don't know that's the worst are we
0:42:09that bad
0:42:10oh no it's miserable uh ah so and I
0:42:15think that that's still true i think
0:42:16that in the majority of America the
0:42:18world were just hamburger hamburger bang
0:42:20bang
0:42:20I think you're probably right that you
0:42:22like 4s espagnole sauce
0:42:24oh my goodness i think this might be our
0:42:26our gravy so what happens in espagnole
0:42:28sauce
0:42:28alright let's look at this is all your
0:42:30ass but no way it's just look at this
0:42:33photo of of beef in this brown gravy
0:42:35with a side of like steak fries
0:42:37what am I doing here why am I sitting in
0:42:39this cold also sitting here looking at
0:42:41this
0:42:41your boys are freezing beef in brown
0:42:45gravy
0:42:46oh look at that went to importance last
0:42:48night oh good for you how to go went
0:42:51great i mean you know you go to morton's
0:42:54and and you basically like it's like
0:42:57you're stewing in Frank Sinatra right
0:42:59there's Frank Sinatra on the stereo and
0:43:01then they bring out a plate and it's
0:43:03basically like half of Frank Sinatra
0:43:04hosts fingers in my hair but it's an
0:43:10honor it's another Frank Sinatra he
0:43:13pissed on my fucking head and it wasn't
0:43:16on fucked my wife right on the bar you
0:43:21know that but should be frank yes I can
0:43:24if frank says I can sew in detail you
0:43:28want you had a big steak
0:43:29yeah a big stick it was good but you
0:43:31know i'm suffering a little bit of the
0:43:32consequences today because yeah
0:43:34basically I you know I hate a cat and
0:43:37now I'm i'm walking around it's like it
0:43:40was Halloween too and i haven't even
0:43:42eating sugar for a while and you know if
0:43:45you get anyone Eminem the cravings come
0:43:48back right and then you need to you need
0:43:50to go to the methadone clinic because
0:43:51just like oh my god I had some sugar and
0:43:54there's this giant bowl of reese's
0:43:55peanut butter cups and what can I did
0:43:58you know I'm trapped in the house all
0:44:00method for candy
0:44:01let's say hit rock bottom as a candy
0:44:04user like what do you think what kind of
0:44:06clinic would you go to what they give
0:44:07you
0:44:07splenda oh yeah i think they would just
0:44:10give you shitty candy they give you like
0:44:12licorice the but you know I i had an
0:44:16interesting conversation with my mom the
0:44:17other day where she said you used to it
0:44:21so you know you have to have talked
0:44:23about my shoebox full of money
0:44:25yeah but according to my mom i also had
0:44:28a giant bag of candy when people would
0:44:33want you know all the candy holidays
0:44:36which are kind of all the holidays
0:44:38except fourth of July they're all candy
0:44:39holidays and she said you would hoard
0:44:42your candy you wouldn't eat it and I was
0:44:46like that sounds like me she said but
0:44:48you would you kept this candy in a bag
0:44:51and you would bring neighborhood kids in
0:44:54you never take the candy bag out of the
0:44:56house you'd bring neighborhood kids in
0:44:58and you would give them a choice of
0:45:00their favorite candy out of the bag if
0:45:04they would blank like you would bribe
0:45:08and manipulate the neighborhood kids
0:45:10into doing what you wanted by promising
0:45:13them a selection from your candy horde
0:45:15and I was like what I sound I sound like
0:45:19a fucking diabolical monster child
0:45:22yeah you sound like a like a like a
0:45:23super billionaire and she was like
0:45:25that's right and so I have and so then
0:45:29it started to like memory started to
0:45:31flood back of my candy stash which was
0:45:36full of all the candy that I didn't
0:45:37actually person i mean i would eat all
0:45:39the fucking chocolate right away but
0:45:40then I had all the garbage candy the
0:45:43smarties and the licorice in that Mike
0:45:46and Ikes and all that stuff I didn't
0:45:49care about Necco wafers yeah like just
0:45:51shit candy that they give to people and
0:45:54I would just hoard it and then offer
0:45:57this offer these like beads two kids for
0:46:02their Manhattan islands
0:46:04oh yeah I shall require you to do a
0:46:06fancy dance for me
0:46:07that's right or like oh here's here's
0:46:10here nave here's the
0:46:12game here's the game today you are going
0:46:14to be a dog and i am going to be a dog
0:46:17killer and the kids would be like I
0:46:18don't want to be a dog again and I'd be
0:46:20like why don't you come in and have a
0:46:21Necco wafer and then maybe like okay and
0:46:26then be like that's right now
0:46:28now i'm going to sit on my throne and
0:46:29you sit here next to my throne and if
0:46:32anybody comes you attack so I that sub
0:46:36that makes me sound like a sicko from a
0:46:38young age that happened and then my mom
0:46:41confirmed that she thought I was a
0:46:43psycho that this was not a childlike
0:46:45behavior but she didn't somehow she
0:46:48didn't like getting a doctor or anything
0:46:50well not as far as i know not until
0:46:52later but you know I my daughter has
0:46:58what appears to be very little impulse
0:47:00control like when we go places where
0:47:03there's a buffet
0:47:04she just pieces in front of the buffet
0:47:06just trolling it hoping that someone
0:47:08will give her a shrimp you know and I'm
0:47:12like get away from the buffet you're
0:47:14freaking people out and she's like but
0:47:15all I could all the food and i'm like i
0:47:17see it you've already eaten enough food
0:47:19for 74 year olds today sheet a lot she
0:47:22just she did would never stop eating
0:47:24money if i put if I put a a trough of
0:47:28four-year-old kibble four-year-old child
0:47:31by purina right if I put it there in
0:47:34front of her room she would just you
0:47:35just forage all day she's fascinating my
0:47:38kid is not a big eater
0:47:40she's going straight she's a canon
0:47:42lawyer she's always looking for like
0:47:43what do I need to negotiate to get a
0:47:45little more TV a little bit more candy
0:47:46but she does not eat a lot of like
0:47:48normal food but your kindle elite like
0:47:50what kind of stuff like what if she had
0:47:51rather what she also just the just kid
0:47:55shit even macaroni Dogg hott Dogg's a
0:47:58grilled cheese sandwiches because school
0:48:01Betty she likes she likes something
0:48:03Betty White if my daughter you know we
0:48:06talked about i believe i've had this
0:48:07fantasy of somebody having a great
0:48:09machine in my house like I think if she
0:48:11could have you know some people have
0:48:12draft beer if she could have draft
0:48:14noodles
0:48:15I think she would just be pulling on
0:48:16glass noodles all the time I feel like I
0:48:18feel like that would be true of mine too
0:48:19and so but but she's trolling the buffet
0:48:23I don't know what she's looking for
0:48:25apes like what does she think is up
0:48:28there but she just want you know she's
0:48:31you know she gives the like the this
0:48:33poor street urchin eyeballs to all the
0:48:37adults walking by like no one has been
0:48:39using little look at the Kenzie and
0:48:41character gotta have more grills and and
0:48:45so people are like I mean I think we
0:48:47passed the point where any adult would
0:48:50feed a strange child from their hands
0:48:53right when they look around like where
0:48:55is this child's parent and why she
0:48:57trolling the buffet like so that's what
0:48:59I say to her like you're making people
0:49:00nervous
0:49:01come over here and sit with your family
0:49:02and she's just like as soon as soon as
0:49:05you're not watching her she's back over
0:49:07like like it like that sharks swimming
0:49:10in front of the a beach covered with
0:49:12bathers and I go I like what is that
0:49:17but she does not seem like somebody
0:49:19who's going to hoard candy in a bag in
0:49:22order to manipulate other kids and I
0:49:24can't tell whether that's an evolution
0:49:26of the family like a sort of John
0:49:28Syracuse's style and the way he looks at
0:49:30evolution right yeah just sort of like
0:49:31where people see a thing and then they
0:49:34they change the ball and evolve and
0:49:37evolution yes or whether it is where the
0:49:41weather it's a maladaptation and she's
0:49:42not going to be able to she's not going
0:49:44to learn how to leverage your your
0:49:49wealth into power over people who don't
0:49:53ask you talk too much about our bet you
0:49:55know that good kids are weird kids are
0:49:58super weird I it's hard to know what
0:50:00they're going to what they're going to
0:50:01connect with and like but the buffet i
0:50:03remember the buffet just being the stuff
0:50:06of fantasy to me when we got our first
0:50:07don't say Duff's and in Cincinnati was
0:50:11like three dollars me in like nineteen
0:50:14seventy six or seven dollars you it
0:50:15feels like it was three dollars for all
0:50:17all you was before they say all you care
0:50:20to eat they would say for
0:50:21all-you-can-eat buffet which really was
0:50:23more like some kind of a challenge oh
0:50:24yeah ours was called the royal fork and
0:50:27when you walked into the Royal for that
0:50:30sounds fancy it was it was it was there
0:50:32was a crown on top of the fork the Royal
0:50:34for you'd walk into the royal fork and
0:50:36you saw right away
0:50:37that there were like twenty four
0:50:39different kinds of jell-o salad and yeah
0:50:43all the macaroni and cheese you could
0:50:44eat all the chicken cutlets you could
0:50:46eat all the school Betty you could eat
0:50:48it wasn't it was an insane scene and
0:50:52then I can't imagine why the restaurant
0:50:53like that would go out of business but
0:50:55royal fork is no more i'm looking at
0:50:57some images here from a place that area
0:51:01became popular around the time I moved
0:51:02out of tallahassee but it's called china
0:51:04super buffet and there was this real
0:51:06trend in the mid to late night for
0:51:08example I think I told you the first
0:51:09time I ever ate sushi at least on a
0:51:12regular basis was at a buffet
0:51:14oh that's good sushi buffet sushi sigo
0:51:16you got lunch is eight dollars for
0:51:18all-you-can-eat sushi and a seminal role
0:51:20you know what's that Tom i Doan 27
0:51:24Olympians eat their food and rolls I
0:51:27think that racism and white wife beating
0:51:29it but they uh but no but that's that
0:51:31was well there was this trend though in
0:51:33the mid to late nineties where there's
0:51:34like more and more buffets taking over
0:51:37and pushing out the more mom-and-pop
0:51:39version of whatever was coming there so
0:51:42when this place open you should see this
0:51:43place looks like a a barn it's just
0:51:46giant so they got all that i'm looking
0:51:47here at the steam tables full of like
0:51:50lots of you know vegetable heavy dishes
0:51:53with recent but they also have this
0:51:54entire bar of just uniformly
0:51:56golden-brown american food is always
0:51:59liked all-you-can-eat tater tots all you
0:52:00can eat french fries all ukita it's not
0:52:03going to publix you know when you go to
0:52:04that the hot section where it's like
0:52:06just all uniformly golden brown
0:52:07oh I know I know and people just would
0:52:09just go fucking crazy in this place I
0:52:13was behind a guy the salad bar last week
0:52:14and I I swear to god you do not want to
0:52:18see an old person in the salad bar they
0:52:19put a hurtin on a salad bar
0:52:21I think a lot for a lot of people to go
0:52:23the salad bar that's going to be three
0:52:24meals I've got a pal uh who insists that
0:52:31we go to sizzler not because the stakes
0:52:36are good but because the salad bar they
0:52:38got AI got hot bar
0:52:39yeah right you can go you two soups you
0:52:42get a variety of breads yep
0:52:45now you gotta pump chilly there today
0:52:47well the children maybe the chili is in
0:52:49a is in a
0:52:51serving tub because I don't sound like
0:52:54it like a like a fancy lad but sizzlers
0:52:56just a little bit of my bar
0:52:59yeah I keep saying this I can't even
0:53:01find ironically john and i want to
0:53:02change the cheese dad what did your did
0:53:04your tastebuds the stop in 1987 I mean
0:53:08they stopped evolving like sizzler
0:53:10no I can't go to sizzler but but she
0:53:12insists and we go to sister and my god I
0:53:15can't do this this is that they don't
0:53:17even have they don't even have steak in
0:53:19Malibu chicken anymore i couldn't even
0:53:21find a malibu chicken salad with chicken
0:53:22what I got in what you never had you
0:53:25never want to sizzler got steak in
0:53:26Malibu chicken think so sounds pretty
0:53:28good
0:53:29malibu chicken is basically just a
0:53:31chicken breast with the LA cheese on it
0:53:34slice a ham on it and then some Swiss
0:53:36cheese on the top
0:53:37oh it's like a poor man's that cordon
0:53:39bleu the poor man's quarter blue you get
0:53:41it get too used to get two breasts to
0:53:45Malibu chickens and anna and some kind
0:53:47of six ounce or eight ounce steak that
0:53:50that absolutely fell off the back of a
0:53:52truck right i mean it's like they say
0:53:54they don't say us a choice they say they
0:53:58say like choice takes a picture picture
0:54:02of a guy in government uniform shrugging
0:54:04if I'm right it's like choice takes
0:54:06that's that's different than saying that
0:54:08this steak is USDA choice probably fine
0:54:11it's just saying that you chose them
0:54:13how about ok like a laundry bin of
0:54:17states
0:54:18let's take him it came out of a out of a
0:54:21processing plant no no we don't mean
0:54:23USDA choice we just means we picked out
0:54:25for you mean scissors choice i don't
0:54:27think they might even be called sisters
0:54:28sisters choice that's as good as us atty
0:54:32a choice but yeah so I so the other day
0:54:35i was down i was being I was being
0:54:37basically like a guy press-ganged into
0:54:42going into a sizzler and I was standing
0:54:44out front like like digging my heels
0:54:47into the cement going no i do not want
0:54:49again to go to a sizzler i'm done and
0:54:52across the street from the sizzler is an
0:54:54Outback Steakhouse and I said let's just
0:54:57look look-look-look-look we're here
0:54:59let's just try something new you know me
0:55:01I like try something new
0:55:02let's just go across the street to the
0:55:04out
0:55:04back steakhouse will do a comparison
0:55:06it's consistent it is consistent and so
0:55:09we slept across the street to the to the
0:55:13outback steakhouse we go in and
0:55:15immediately were being upset
0:55:17also the bloomin onion we weren't even
0:55:19seated at the table this and sat there
0:55:22and just sort of you know got up sold
0:55:24half a dozen times the weight the waiter
0:55:27was pretty bad at his job but you know
0:55:32it was a better class of stake than the
0:55:35sizzler so i had to say you know okay
0:55:37you go to places like a ponderosa on
0:55:40your kid we didn't have those in
0:55:41Anchorage we didn't I don't even know
0:55:43what a golden corral is that sounds like
0:55:45a royal forward but that's not a real
0:55:47fucking golden corral i think is like
0:55:49that well here's the thing like when I
0:55:50was a kid he had your York steak house
0:55:53you never heard her well and they were
0:55:55places that did like a cafeteria-style
0:55:57line and you could get a six-dollar
0:56:00steak or whatever or whatever you can
0:56:02get you know that the ground beef patty
0:56:04burger with steak fries and you get a
0:56:06little just like you get the putting in
0:56:08the jello out of the case just like you
0:56:09know like you would any cafeteria
0:56:11it's just that would be you know it's
0:56:12like slightly nicer than disgusting and
0:56:15like you would go there but then I think
0:56:17something happened i want to say around
0:56:19the time i was in high school probably
0:56:20where they suddenly i guess i don't know
0:56:23i'm not sure what market force would
0:56:25have caused this but they started adding
0:56:27more and more buffet elements i think it
0:56:29started
0:56:29obviously with the state with the with
0:56:31salad bar then they start you start
0:56:33having your soups you got your breads
0:56:35you get more made a carving station and
0:56:38I think that feels very luxe to people
0:56:39when you go to las vegas & like people
0:56:41are dying for this stuff
0:56:42did I ever tell you that I was a member
0:56:44of a group called the cotillion club
0:56:46when I was in high school was that what
0:56:49was that about dancing it was about
0:56:50dancing always think italian club you
0:56:52were in continuum club seventh grade
0:56:54yeah don't know about yours
0:56:56well so you know sometime around
0:56:59I don't know 9th or 10th grade the kids
0:57:02all started whispering about cotillion
0:57:05were you or were you not going to get
0:57:08invited to tell you and I had never
0:57:12heard of continued and I didn't know
0:57:13what to expect but it was like
0:57:17a group of adults chose which kids were
0:57:24the right kids wear the fancy kids
0:57:28you're kidding to invite to cotillion
0:57:30club which was a special set of dance
0:57:32and this is in the eighties
0:57:33oh yeah special set of dances that only
0:57:36the chosen kids could attend and the
0:57:41grown-ups were like the moms and dads
0:57:43and i think that the that the the
0:57:47grown-ups chose one another to like the
0:57:49the moms and dads from from the last set
0:57:53you know picked then the the right moms
0:57:56and dads to choose the right kids for
0:57:58the next generation and so buzzed all
0:58:03the kids are whispering who's going to
0:58:05get into cotillion club and it was not a
0:58:07thing that I knew about and my mom was
0:58:12absolutely not one of the right moms and
0:58:15i was very definitely not one of the
0:58:19right kids man
0:58:21and so cotillion club comes around and
0:58:23and and you know it's like the kids are
0:58:26getting tapped like you know tap on the
0:58:29shoulder it's like skullenbones with
0:58:31dance moves
0:58:31do you want are you know yet you are
0:58:34invited to tell you do you accept your
0:58:35you know you accept or refuse to make
0:58:39your choice right and all the kids like
0:58:40oh my god I'm in cotillion
0:58:42Wow and so the selection of cotillion
0:58:44happened and I was not invited because
0:58:49the moms who made that decision i think
0:58:52there were some dads to mom's dance had
0:58:56determined that I was the bad elements i
0:58:57was the wrong i was the wrong tone
0:59:01because my parents were divorced my
0:59:06mother was a single mother who lived in
0:59:09an inappropriately big house considering
0:59:13she was a single mother so that was
0:59:14suspicious something was wrong because
0:59:18no single mother should be prospering
0:59:21and this suspicion i think in the
0:59:24neighborhood was that my mom was there
0:59:25to steal all their husbands or something
0:59:26whatever it was that they were afraid of
0:59:28single women at the time single
0:59:30professional women so I didn't get
0:59:32invited and also I was a bad kid let's
0:59:33be honest here but my friends who all
0:59:38were in continuing club rebelled
0:59:41you know you never saw this before and I
0:59:43didn't think my friends like me that
0:59:45much but they did like me enough and
0:59:48they went to their moms and they they
0:59:50staged a protest not a not an actual
0:59:53protest because these are middle-class
0:59:55kids there's an insurrection an
0:59:57insurrection and they said if you don't
0:59:59invite
0:59:59invite
1:00:00John to cotillion club then we none of
1:00:01us will go to tell and it was a
1:00:03completely false threat they all were
1:00:05gonna go to tell you whether I went or
1:00:07not but it was for that week or whenever
1:00:09it was there it was there stand for
1:00:11justice that was there that was their
1:00:15march on Selma was that they were going
1:00:17to stop this this tragedy that I hadn't
1:00:20been invited to continue so a week later
1:00:25than everyone else my invitation to
1:00:27cotillion arrived and you could just and
1:00:29you just knew the moms or so mad because
1:00:34i was i would I was gonna ruin it and
1:00:38obviously like there were very few if
1:00:42know people of color invited to
1:00:44cotillion and it was but you know this
1:00:48was before anybody felt like before any
1:00:51white people notice that there was a
1:00:53problem with that
1:00:54and so they had these dances down at the
1:00:58Hilton Hotel where members of the
1:01:02cotillion club from all the schools
1:01:04would congregate and it was basically
1:01:06like these are the right kids from the
1:01:09whole town
1:01:10these are the these are the chosen kids
1:01:12from something from the thirties yes
1:01:15absolutely but this is Anchorage in the
1:01:17eighties la even by the eighties like I
1:01:19think about when I was in like advanced
1:01:21english they had to come up with a funny
1:01:23name for it so they could they did one
1:01:24called accelerator whatever there was so
1:01:26much concerned about steering so much
1:01:27concern about like you know even then
1:01:30exhaling kids to some kind of area where
1:01:32like they didn't feel special like yeah
1:01:34I can't believe this existed but this
1:01:36was this was extra school it had nothing
1:01:38to do with the school this was a group
1:01:40that was funded and run by parents who
1:01:43wanted the best for their kids
1:01:46ok and it was absolutely like savannah
1:01:49in the thirties but the you know there
1:01:52was this super class hierarchy and
1:01:56Anchorage at the time because a lot of
1:01:58the people that settled Alaska in the
1:02:00fifties and sixties came from a the
1:02:05Northeast in you know at
1:02:10and move directly to Alaskan like they
1:02:12didn't move west they moved from new
1:02:14haven to Anchorage little bit a little
1:02:16bit of French plantation
1:02:18yeah so they brought their old culture
1:02:20which didn't continue to evolve and then
1:02:23that was you know they tried to him
1:02:25implanted in Anchorage and the end it
1:02:29was successful
1:02:30so that was the first time I ever saw
1:02:32carving station because you would go to
1:02:34cotillion and there was like a dinner /
1:02:36where there would be a giant ham and a
1:02:39giant roast beef under a metal thing and
1:02:41I person is in a chef's hat who would
1:02:45carve the meat for you and I'm standing
1:02:49there in my like already wearing like a
1:02:52a a double-knit suit because i was like
1:02:55buck you and I mean I went in to
1:02:58cotillion knowing that I was persona non
1:03:01grata with the chaperones and so I
1:03:06really played it up just you know just
1:03:08like polyester suits and bad attitude
1:03:12and show you this is not something where
1:03:15your friends want them to interrupt your
1:03:16friends wanted you in there but this was
1:03:18not something was on your radar you did
1:03:20not see someone who like I i need to
1:03:22become part of the in scene with italian
1:03:24club
1:03:25well I always imagined that my role in
1:03:28every situation was the UH was somewhere
1:03:33between a Pluto and hotter right like I
1:03:38was Bluto I was Bluto when it was time
1:03:41to start a food fight that you can pass
1:03:42but I was honor when it was time to
1:03:45stage a protest at be at the fraternity
1:03:49sorority meeting so I was the one that
1:03:54shouted Gator when it was time to get
1:03:57her I was the one that that wore a toga
1:04:01when it was time to wear toca i started
1:04:04the the conga line you know you had a
1:04:06hearing with Dean wormer you need to put
1:04:07on a time that's right put on a tie with
1:04:09and you go to the meeting with dean
1:04:11where you say Dean wormer you're
1:04:12absolutely right we're going to try and
1:04:14straighten this up you know so I could i
1:04:15I would talk to adults i actually had a
1:04:18mother I had actually a mother looked me
1:04:21in the eye and say you are such a
1:04:22bullshit are
1:04:23test and you know I was 15 right and I
1:04:27took it as the highest compliment that
1:04:31you know that this mom was driven to
1:04:33such frustration the and that she would
1:04:36swear a team you know I get with such a
1:04:39violation of her personal code right
1:04:41that I had driven her to call me
1:04:43abortion Gino she hissed at me like such
1:04:46a bullshit artist I was like haha so I
1:04:50was at cotillion but I absolutely felt I
1:04:52belonged there but I belonged there as
1:04:54the person who was trying to ruin it for
1:04:56everyone else
1:04:58oh I'm sorry make it super fun for
1:05:02everyone but in the process ruin it for
1:05:05all time all right
1:05:08yeah it looks like your your foot looks
1:05:10like it's a cake that turns into the
1:05:12Deathmobile that's exactly what that's
1:05:14exactly it
1:05:14and so every time and you know and I
1:05:17there over the course of a couple of
1:05:19years I was I was expelled from
1:05:23cotillion and then was allowed back into
1:05:26cotillion because I you know I wrote a
1:05:29wrote a letter of apology or something
1:05:33to somebody it was all just a big you
1:05:35know first and then there was College
1:05:37cotillion which was when you got back
1:05:39from college when you returned to
1:05:41anchorage a christmas break there would
1:05:44be a big dance for all the cotillion
1:05:46kids to stand around and talk about
1:05:48their fancy colleges and I went to that
1:05:51and I actually really destroyed that
1:05:53dance
1:05:53oh yeah there was there was like there
1:05:56was projectile vomiting there was
1:05:57actually no it was actually spiking the
1:05:59punch bowl real life real life spiking
1:06:02the punch bowl as though it was nineteen
1:06:05fifty that's a that's the eighties in
1:06:08Anchorage what was the if you can
1:06:12remember or gas was the endgame for
1:06:14cotillion club in terms of what the moms
1:06:17with a replicating some kind of an East
1:06:19Coast thing that they felt like they
1:06:20lost were they trying to make something
1:06:21new
1:06:22was it a feeder program into some kind
1:06:24of larger social world
1:06:26yeah it was it was the best and the
1:06:28brightest they wanted the best wanted
1:06:31the best kids by their estimation to
1:06:34understand the bomb they had with
1:06:37another and begin the process of
1:06:39creating an old boy network in the youth
1:06:42where you would like you were meeting
1:06:46one another at a time when you know you
1:06:50had some of you had already decided to
1:06:53be doctors and some had decided to be
1:06:54lawyers but the ones who are going to
1:06:56run real estate empires and owned the
1:06:58bank didn't quite know what they were
1:07:01gonna do yet you know they knew they
1:07:02were going to go into business or
1:07:03whatever but once you once you were all
1:07:0630 years down the road and you'd go into
1:07:09get a loan to start your own newspaper
1:07:12whatever again the obtained Club
1:07:14handshake
1:07:15now you sit down at the in the in the
1:07:17bank presidents office and you already
1:07:18knew each other you know each other from
1:07:20all the way back to cotillion club like
1:07:23it's a it was its how old boy networks
1:07:25get created in places where because what
1:07:28we didn't have up there was what you do
1:07:30have back east which is like family
1:07:32names so you weren't if somebody walked
1:07:36into your bank presidents office than
1:07:37and you were just like oh I'm a
1:07:39Roosevelt yeah that Vanderbilt or
1:07:41something yeah right so you know what
1:07:43that means but in Alaska that was still
1:07:45very new and actually as a Roderick you
1:07:49know my uncle had been mayor I was I've
1:07:53told you that story right where I was
1:07:54standing at some party and some adult
1:07:56walks up with this other kid my age some
1:07:59dopey looking kid and they're like I
1:08:02thought you two should meet both of your
1:08:05a you know like your uncle was mayor
1:08:09john and dopey kid here his is a his dad
1:08:12was governor and you know you guys
1:08:14should know each other and the dopey kid
1:08:16and i SAT and looked at each other like
1:08:17huh
1:08:18here there that's you there's me but
1:08:21that the idea was like how you guys are
1:08:23both part of political dynasties you
1:08:25should be so it's so weird if you knew
1:08:28each other then that would be like good
1:08:30somewhere down the line i think it's i
1:08:33think it's still goes on even as we
1:08:37would all kind of want to shun that or
1:08:40act like it doesn't exist anymore i
1:08:42think it's it still goes on it's just
1:08:44it's so coded now ms has so many levels
1:08:47to it of like seeming good intent
1:08:50in but I mean down to like I remember I
1:08:55remember first hearing some some friends
1:08:57of mine lives in New York the kids
1:08:59probably three or four years older than
1:09:00ours and it's woman whose you know clamp
1:09:02she's very prominent in the tech world
1:09:06and basically the floor first hearing
1:09:09the phrase feeder preschool which is to
1:09:13this day it just makes me shudder at
1:09:15some park slope shit right there he
1:09:17absolutely think that but well I think
1:09:19they might leave Manhattan my night
1:09:20people i'm not sure but in any case but
1:09:22like now I mean when I first heard that
1:09:24I was like you've got to be kidding me
1:09:25when your feet are school I think of
1:09:27that is an undergraduate program that
1:09:29tends to get certain kinds of candidates
1:09:31whether its medical or business or
1:09:33whatever tends to get them into like an
1:09:34Ivy League school it's a feeder school
1:09:36and I you know what I won't even accept
1:09:37that there are prep schools that are
1:09:39feeder schools for undergrad programs
1:09:41like that all makes sense in some kind
1:09:43of Catcher in the Rye way to me but like
1:09:45the idea of a feeder preschool that your
1:09:47three-year-old has to be going to the
1:09:49right school in order to get into the
1:09:51right elementary school
1:09:52it's completely bananas we applied to
1:09:55five free schools in san francisco and
1:09:58we got into one
1:09:59oh my god yeah and I mean you know they
1:10:02weren't like we're not talking like prep
1:10:03schools were talking fancy but I mean
1:10:05you know they cost money and stuff
1:10:06yeah but there are three schools there
1:10:08preschools the preschool near our house
1:10:10the montessori school near our house has
1:10:11a required five-day-a-week attendances
1:10:13fifteen hundred dollars a month
1:10:15yeah yeah well I hear this from my new
1:10:17york friends all the time like the
1:10:20reason that a lot of them don't bring
1:10:21their kids on the joco Cruz anymore is
1:10:24because they cannot afford to miss a
1:10:28week of grade school because if they if
1:10:32their attendance is bad
1:10:36by which I mean miss one week of school
1:10:38their attendance is that bad they won't
1:10:40get into the right junior high and I'm
1:10:43just like all of the you you should just
1:10:45take your kids out of school if those
1:10:47are the rules
1:10:48there's a part of that I have to say I'm
1:10:50of two minds is a part of that makes
1:10:51absolute sense to me and then a much
1:10:53larger part of that is so fucking
1:10:55bananas I can't even believe it
1:10:56especially eve even in elementary school
1:10:59you know i mean i understand that we
1:11:00don't want my kid missing school I I
1:11:01don't like her to be sick
1:11:03misc stuff because it's all cumulative
1:11:05especially with common core stuff like
1:11:06you really you need to know the stuff to
1:11:08know this stuff and you've got to be
1:11:09there and you've got to keep you know
1:11:10you lose momentum when you miss those
1:11:12days but the idea that like a just I
1:11:15don't know there's something about that
1:11:16that is really dispiriting to me
1:11:18especially given how many people I know
1:11:20who you know can manage to like make a
1:11:23living and live in this atrocious city
1:11:25and like how much time and energy it
1:11:28takes to be like the parent of somebody
1:11:31in that system and then like why
1:11:33obviously the extension that being like
1:11:34holy shit what about the kids you don't
1:11:36have that like who is like fighting for
1:11:38them to even get like a morsel it's
1:11:41insane to me well you know one thing we
1:11:43haven't talked about on this program is
1:11:45the biz the billionaire party that we
1:11:46went to
1:11:47oh yeah do you feel comfortable talking
1:11:50about the billionaire party I'm you know
1:11:52that's a big family type that here on my
1:11:56computer
1:11:56um I we could talk about that at some
1:11:59point
1:12:00yeah I mean we went to a party where
1:12:02Elon Musk was there I didn't see him you
1:12:05know what I heard he was there is a lot
1:12:07of that lot a lot of nice like nice
1:12:09people they're very very nice people but
1:12:11a lot of people in their forties early
1:12:13forties yeah who are also billionaires
1:12:17yeah 3 con club and they're all in there
1:12:20all ended up at a party together
1:12:22yeah if a bomb had gone off there would
1:12:25be no internet today where there would
1:12:27be no monetization even know how to turn
1:12:29it back on right there be like well the
1:12:31guy that the guy that turns on the
1:12:33internet on immunization yeah I got it
1:12:35turns on the internet every morning is
1:12:37but he died in the party bomb
1:12:39how are we gonna are we gonna make money
1:12:41off of this now
1:12:43mm um you know I we can talk about that
1:12:46I you mentioned last week which was a
1:12:50very interesting episode of this program
1:12:51after we finished talking
1:12:54well you did hinted during the program
1:12:56that it was big week for you in more
1:12:58than one way the story that you told
1:12:59last week about getting ninety-four
1:13:01percent of your home is back
1:13:02uh was certainly a big week but i was
1:13:05curious if you wanted to talk about the
1:13:06other thing that you mentioned but you
1:13:08could save for another show is it no
1:13:10will you die but I wouldn't what was I
1:13:12talking about uh you're making a
1:13:16down payment alright oh yes i will talk
1:13:22about it so we can table the
1:13:24billionaire's for now
1:13:25yeah I know you don't want to talk about
1:13:26the boat no you didn't i got a whole
1:13:28stack to think the thing about the
1:13:30billionaire's I know that you run into
1:13:31him at the supermarket and you have to
1:13:33be like no way they have a special
1:13:35billionaire
1:13:36hey Jim hey Tony and they're like oh
1:13:40yeah I heard your program we talk about
1:13:41the billionaire party know what first
1:13:43rule of billionaire party right right i
1:13:47did show additional text conversation in
1:13:49my what was she when you were with me
1:13:52too I bet I can get your dad's voice but
1:13:54I met a very nice man today named evan
1:13:56he says that he knows you from from
1:13:58something that you worked on a long to
1:14:00become like crap but that's you know
1:14:03yeah very nice man so what so why how he
1:14:08talked about this
1:14:09well yet happening yeah so the other day
1:14:10I went I was so a couple of weeks ago I
1:14:13was driving up to bellingham and my
1:14:16daughter's mother had to pick up some
1:14:18apologies i had to come up there and get
1:14:21ya get a double filson bag full of
1:14:23apologies and bring it back to Seattle
1:14:25make it a nicer place
1:14:26yeah it and so I'm driving up there and
1:14:31my daughter's mother points and yells
1:14:33were in Marysville Washington she points
1:14:36and yells off to the side of freeway and
1:14:37she goes GMC RV and I looked over and it
1:14:41sold an RV dealer and there are 85 rvs
1:14:45all of them that look like I mean
1:14:47gigantic houses on wheels and then right
1:14:51in the middle there's like it's like a
1:14:52broken tooth there's this tiny little
1:14:55thing and it's a GMC RV and so I make
1:15:01make a mental note of it and when we
1:15:03drive back from bellingham we drive past
1:15:05it again and we both look at it go bad
1:15:07is a GMC RV and it's sitting on an RV
1:15:09lot and so we go home we don't stop and
1:15:14a and after a couple of days I I i asked
1:15:19my daughter's mother why don't you call
1:15:22that dealership and see what the what
1:15:24the story is with the GMC RV
1:15:26maybe a little bit of an organization
1:15:27here of course just to explain that when
1:15:30you say GM cr-v a lot of people just
1:15:31gonna hear some letters
1:15:32yeah James Murphy we had a fairly
1:15:34detailed discussion about the GMC RV
1:15:37yeah they're on a past episode we talked
1:15:40about this at length and what a cherry
1:15:42bit of kit this thing that's right
1:15:44longtime listeners will know what we're
1:15:45talking about here and in fact I've told
1:15:47you before right that the GMC RV episode
1:15:50precipitated an email from a guy who
1:15:54said hey I loved that show
1:15:56longtime listener the program I also
1:15:58happen to be President of the Northwest
1:16:01gmcr V club and also the grandson of the
1:16:07guy mr. birch who helped design the GMC
1:16:11RV and one of them is called a birch
1:16:13haven one of the designs is called the
1:16:15purchase even named after my grandfather
1:16:17that's so much cooler than cotillion
1:16:18club it's very bizarre and and you know
1:16:20we we do this all the time on this
1:16:22program we talk about things and then
1:16:23all of a sudden the other day what a
1:16:25senior editor at The New York Times
1:16:27retweeted our program and said you guys
1:16:29have gotta listen to this episode it's
1:16:32just like wow that's cool but he seems
1:16:34like a gorgeous gorgeous nineteen
1:16:36seventies RV it's kind of like a
1:16:39Superman Superman i think is that how he
1:16:41describes the time it's it's it's real
1:16:42big your arm but it's not it's not
1:16:45Winnebago big not win a big okay it's
1:16:47like a big van you can you drive around
1:16:49town but it's but it's a it's got a bed
1:16:51in the back and a bathroom and a kitchen
1:16:53and couch and so far anyway so we we we
1:16:57call up to the dealer and the dealer
1:17:00says yeah we got this thing here we
1:17:01don't know anything about it and frankly
1:17:03we don't want to know anything about it
1:17:05we're in the market where were you know
1:17:06we're in the business of selling these
1:17:08$250,000 Winnebagos and this
1:17:11some guy came in and traded it in on a
1:17:13new Winnebago and it's sitting there and
1:17:16and it's thirteen thousand dollars and
1:17:19so you know what get to take it or don't
1:17:23we don't give a sh 0
1:17:24and we were like well that is a that's
1:17:28not that's not that is not out of reach
1:17:31yeah it's a fairly reasonable price for
1:17:33these the really nice ones can be 50 or
1:17:3630 but you know 13,000 is right in the
1:17:40sort of low end of normal or low end of
1:17:42like this one is is a in good condition
1:17:47you know etc so eventually one day i say
1:17:50i'm just going to go up there
1:17:52marysville isn't close to seattle but
1:17:55it's you know close enough and I'm not
1:17:57doing anything I'm just gonna drive up
1:17:58there and see what see what's what
1:18:00so I Drive up and I go and look at it
1:18:02and it seems like you know the carpet
1:18:08was changed its now sort of a tease
1:18:10hotel lobby carpet there some things
1:18:13have been changed about it but also the
1:18:16the previous owners had done a lot of
1:18:18modifications that improved the vehicle
1:18:20and everyone in the subculture refers to
1:18:23them as coaches like our coach and yeah
1:18:26what condition is your coach and I'm
1:18:27sort of like a coach is one of those
1:18:29words I don't want to say don't say
1:18:31coach I think you will have probably
1:18:34eventually I was like me how was it was
1:18:36the interior like well they've taken it
1:18:38so they changed the shag carpet was gone
1:18:41and the original upholstery was gone and
1:18:42it had been reupholstered in a sort of
1:18:44color that I can only describe as a
1:18:46black berry smoothie which is very
1:18:49divisive certain people see it and
1:18:51they're like that like what like what
1:18:52it's like a used car lot waiting room
1:18:54kind of like like Industrial carpet
1:18:56no no it's it's that the carpet on the
1:18:59floor has yeah like little emblems
1:19:01little fleur de lys on it that are sort
1:19:03of like I don't know what you're
1:19:04thinking but the upholstery is great
1:19:06plush purple fabric i personally think
1:19:13it's hilarious and great other people in
1:19:15my clan think it is hideous but not not
1:19:18the best taste but you know to each his
1:19:21own
1:19:21how many of these you gonna come across
1:19:23that's right there aren't a whole lot of
1:19:24them although there is a secondary
1:19:25market for them but you know not be as
1:19:27John this is a great thing to have a
1:19:29hobby about so I'm sitting I'm sitting
1:19:31in this RV I'm talking to the salesman
1:19:33whose name is Todd with 1d Todd in 1d
1:19:36that
1:19:36fly and Todd on his business card has
1:19:39photograph of himself with a pair of
1:19:41oakley sunglasses perched on top of his
1:19:43head doesn't happen by accident but no
1:19:46it doesn't he was like right there's the
1:19:48picture of me I want on my business card
1:19:51but it turns out i really like todd todd
1:19:53is like extremely likeable he is a
1:19:56salesman and he selling but he's also a
1:19:59good guy like I just instinctively like
1:20:01Todd he probably has jet skied sure but
1:20:08I don't hold that against such as part
1:20:10of his culture that's right so stop are
1:20:13sitting there I'm like well time I mean
1:20:15what about this what about that he's
1:20:16like frankly uh uh the thing is as is i
1:20:22don't want to know about it and nobody
1:20:26here does so if you want to buy it if
1:20:28you don't don't ask any questions
1:20:30because the if you flip the switch and
1:20:32it goes on then you know it works if you
1:20:34flip the switch and it doesn't go on you
1:20:35can presume that read to you because to
1:20:37me that that that reads as primarily
1:20:39first a tactic that he might use for
1:20:41anything on the lot but then secondarily
1:20:42it reads as there's something that's
1:20:44gonna blow up yeah exactly both things
1:20:46like there's an F there's an axial
1:20:48that's going to go as soon as your off
1:20:49the lot both things seem true and so I
1:20:53thought about it some more and I and and
1:20:55then I called my friend Greg birch and I
1:20:59said hey why want somebody to go look at
1:21:01this with me do you have anybody in your
1:21:04uh rolodex and he was like let me call
1:21:06you back and then immediately texted me
1:21:08and said yeah there's a guy that lives
1:21:11up there who's a member of our club and
1:21:13he will come look at it with you
1:21:15that's so cool that's why you have an RV
1:21:17club
1:21:18yes so I show up at the thing and this
1:21:22man arrives and he's about 70 years old
1:21:24and he is wearing suspenders clip-on
1:21:28suspenders holding up his jeans like it
1:21:30so far and he's got great hair and he's
1:21:32a you know he's a heavyset guy
1:21:35and he used to work at Boeing which is I
1:21:38think true of every single GMC RV owner
1:21:41in the northwest and he walks up and he
1:21:46just starts spinning some knowledge and
1:21:50he walks around he's like oh I see
1:21:52they've upgraded the the grommets looks
1:21:54like they changed that nipple out for a
1:21:56stainless nipple
1:21:58oh and look at here and they've got that
1:22:00they they added the edit the the
1:22:02secondary boost boost the battery
1:22:05spinner and it's hot it's hot there well
1:22:07this guy's dunno todd has got no Todd
1:22:10doesn't give a shit Todd is off 750,000
1:22:12Winnebagos ok and it's just me and the
1:22:14guy so this was probably a trade-in I
1:22:17was absolutely a trade ok and so a so
1:22:20the guy whose name is Tom which goes
1:22:24very well Todd a new twins named Tommy
1:22:26top Tom and Todd tom is like he's
1:22:29pulling up the carpet is looking in the
1:22:31he's looking in the the back he's
1:22:33fiddling with the front he's he's down
1:22:36he's like you know he's an old man and
1:22:39he's down on the ground looking
1:22:40underneath it and he pronounces that he
1:22:44thinks the coaches in great condition
1:22:46see I'm already calling our coach is
1:22:48like this is a number one coach and he
1:22:53loves the purple upholstery and so he
1:22:57gives it the because of the Bill of good
1:22:59health and I'm like I'm feeling stronger
1:23:02and stronger about this all the time as
1:23:03Tom I mean part of the first of all must
1:23:05be kind of fun for Tom to get to do that
1:23:07super fun that mean that that's good for
1:23:09everybody and thank god bless time for
1:23:10coming but also i'll bet you Tom in a
1:23:12heartbeat would call your attention to
1:23:14something bunkers all he absolutely
1:23:16would and he had that wheel should not
1:23:18move like that she had the expertise to
1:23:20say like to see I mean he knew some deep
1:23:23science on it and he said some
1:23:25interesting things he was like listen
1:23:26every RV leaks i'm sure this one leaks
1:23:29they all leak because they're enormous
1:23:32tubes that are subject to torque and
1:23:38torsion and tour she owned
1:23:41oh there's a lot of parts to move they
1:23:44move and they twist and they ski to
1:23:46shake a little bit shake
1:23:48and so eventually they're all going to
1:23:50leak and so don't be worried about leaks
1:23:52you have to fix leaks but it's just it's
1:23:54part of owning an RV if you want to do
1:23:56things like owning it and it's like it's
1:23:57like me a boner without having a fucking
1:23:59boat like there's gonna be money and
1:24:01time you put into this but you're not
1:24:02living on it you're not living on its
1:24:04not going to sink right right so so then
1:24:09I'm talking to go find Todd and I'm like
1:24:13so what are we going to do with this
1:24:14like kid here it is there
1:24:16I think I probably want it and Todd too
1:24:21to his credit says look when i say i
1:24:26don't care about this thing i'm serious
1:24:28i don't care about it and so frankly if
1:24:31you are very odd cells that
1:24:34yeah he's great he's making your dad's
1:24:36got something here is obviously an
1:24:37enthusiast for this kind of fairly rare
1:24:39vehicle he's like fucking I don't care
1:24:41yep so he says look if you offer me a
1:24:43thousand dollars right now i'll take
1:24:45what i was like really ok i'll buy
1:24:48prayed thousand dollars he was like
1:24:49great sold
1:24:50holy shit John and I said alright well
1:24:53that was the best that was the easiest
1:24:55negotiation I ever did and so so Todd
1:25:01says you want to try and get a loan for
1:25:04it and I was like yeah as a matter of
1:25:06fact I do and so we went we went through
1:25:08all this rigmarole with the banks and
1:25:11the bank came back and said this person
1:25:14is self-employed and that right there is
1:25:18a reason it reject him but also some
1:25:23years he makes this amount of money and
1:25:25some years he makes that amount of money
1:25:27and that is too much of a variation
1:25:30probably not even sure which graph to
1:25:32use yeah they put all my information
1:25:34into the into the Machine and machine
1:25:37spit out a giant ? leave club and it
1:25:40started to smoke and what I discovered
1:25:42was I my credit rating is 830 and Todd
1:25:46was like for the 830 credit rating you
1:25:48should be able to just you should be
1:25:49able to buy a plane airplane but then I
1:25:53brought my tax returns because they
1:25:55insisted because I'm self-employed right
1:25:57and then the tax returns really confuse
1:25:59them
1:25:59and they were like you what now
1:26:02different forms you made up that are
1:26:04written longhand yes I'm just like don't
1:26:06know this is basically this is this is
1:26:09super a normal and they're like this is
1:26:12not normal you're your income is as are
1:26:16incomprehensible to us we are a bank and
1:26:19so they rejected me for a car loan for
1:26:22eight thousand dollars and I was
1:26:24offended drivers i was i was mad and
1:26:31then I thought about it for a while and
1:26:33I was like oh and I could just go ahead
1:26:34and buy it i was like i could write a
1:26:37check i don't have to get a bank loan
1:26:39that was just something fun that I was
1:26:41gonna do get a get a loan for the fun of
1:26:43it let that put a bad taste in your
1:26:44mouth you get your getting a coach
1:26:46yeah so I went in and I was like here
1:26:47Todd i'll buy and he was like oh alright
1:26:50well get out of here then and so I fired
1:26:52it up and I drove it off the lot and I
1:26:54drove home
1:26:56I can't believe it yeah I'm so fucking
1:27:00excited to see this thing
1:27:01well but here's the beers the rub so i
1:27:03got it home and parked in my front yard
1:27:05and then I you know when you know you've
1:27:08really moved into the neighborhood
1:27:09yeah when I went to bed and they're
1:27:11checking i woke up the next morning I
1:27:13walked out and I was like oh shit i have
1:27:16become a guy with like an old shitty
1:27:20decrepid motor home in his yard
1:27:23you got a jimmy carter era RV coach in
1:27:26your yard hope this pre Jimmy Carter
1:27:28this is 75 this is a as afford this was
1:27:31you know for RV yeah this is a this is a
1:27:34gerald r ford era recreational vehicle
1:27:37John um and so it hadn't thought about
1:27:40that you won't fit your part right well
1:27:42there's been some talk about whether it
1:27:44would fit in the barn I don't think it
1:27:45will I would have to move all the
1:27:46vestments all the non-working vestments
1:27:48out of the barn to fit in minot you know
1:27:51my like how am I hashed up RV so you
1:27:54have problem right now is ever so now
1:27:57I'm like shifting into high gear here
1:28:00like I'd better join this RV enthusiasts
1:28:03club i had better oh and the other thing
1:28:06is I'm time between about it and I get a
1:28:10i get a tweet from this guy I
1:28:13Isaac Marion who is a an author who has
1:28:16written some popular books about zombies
1:28:19and one of them was made into a movie
1:28:21called where the zombie fella but it was
1:28:24like a love story with the zombie like a
1:28:26young good-looking zombie who falls in
1:28:28love with a girl or something that will
1:28:30occupy like twilight type thing yeah but
1:28:32with zombies and it's sure it's funny
1:28:34it's like a like a romantic comedy but
1:28:36like one of the people is dead
1:28:38nice and so Isaac Marion is a friend of
1:28:41mine on Twitter and a very nice man and
1:28:43he sends me a tweet he's like I own one
1:28:46of those and i was like you what I mean
1:28:49he's like a young handsome successful
1:28:51office very good-looking guy John yeah
1:28:53he's nice nice looking man and a very
1:28:54nice man smart smart author author smart
1:28:58huh
1:28:59he says yeah I used to live in it in
1:29:01ballard before the cops got wise to me
1:29:04and they made me stop live in it but I
1:29:07love my GMC RV and I was like Isaac you
1:29:09got to come up and see this RV with me
1:29:10so he did he got in my truck I want
1:29:13picked him up at a cafe we drove up
1:29:14looked at the RV was like oh this is
1:29:16amazing so that we honestly voice is an
1:29:19estimation of it he feel like it was a
1:29:21good buy
1:29:21also he has a small one there's
1:29:24agreement to sign I got the big one all
1:29:26to look at the schematic right now
1:29:28yeah so he's like out two rooms it's got
1:29:31yeah it's it's it's his bits as big as a
1:29:33it's as big as a house on small it's so
1:29:35cool
1:29:36so anyway so Isaac gives me the clean
1:29:39bill of health and I so now I'm in a
1:29:43position basically we're not only do i
1:29:44have to join this subculture fast and
1:29:46figure it out but also i feel like i'm
1:29:49going to start a subculture I feel like
1:29:51it's time for young people to start
1:29:55buying rvs in general and GMC rvs in
1:29:59particular this is not something for
1:30:01retirees John you're telling people who
1:30:02are there still full of them and vigor
1:30:04people who are still full of life it's
1:30:06time to go out and buy yourself a purple
1:30:07RV get a purple RV drive it down to Big
1:30:10Sur and get your picture in Sunset
1:30:13magazine like this is happening this is
1:30:16a new subculture and it's going to be
1:30:18like it's the new motorcycle gang for
1:30:20four people in their thirties and
1:30:22forties and fifties name of a little
1:30:24slower and sometimes maybe like to have
1:30:25a little now
1:30:26yeah he got a juicer on board in case
1:30:28you want some juice that's nice too
1:30:29fresh juice you know a jen that you wake
1:30:32up in the morning your gear right there
1:30:33Big Sur you got a fresh glass of juice
1:30:35cooking surface
1:30:37I'm telling you there's a whole lot
1:30:38there's a whole there's a refrigerator
1:30:39there's a lot of animals my god it's and
1:30:42it's got all these little like the the
1:30:44couch turns into a bump I want that I
1:30:46love stuff that turns into stuff and get
1:30:47a little things with doors you can put
1:30:49stuff in
1:30:49yep little things with doors little
1:30:50things that turn into other things just
1:30:52so fucking cool so it's got and it's got
1:30:55a its got one of those old the
1:30:57Oldsmobile 455 motors which are like
1:31:01it's got up there's a whole culture
1:31:03people that just care about that motor
1:31:04you can pull Todd's jetski if he had to
1:31:06absolutely I could you know I'm I mean I
1:31:09swear to you Gary is across the street
1:31:11going
1:31:11why does that guy get everything is
1:31:15looking at jobs it's just like oh my god
1:31:18i'm living in my ford van and he's you
1:31:20just unintentionally gave Gary the
1:31:23biggest fuck you in history of
1:31:24everything first plate as he doesn't
1:31:26remember that you've met before right
1:31:28he's living in a nice living in a van
1:31:29screaming about obama on his phone into
1:31:31his lady in the middle of the night
1:31:32yeah and then you pull up with like the
1:31:34sweetest right can you pull it into your
1:31:36yard you know that's what a fuck you
1:31:38poor Gary well the whole neighborhood
1:31:40now has to be like okay this is either a
1:31:43harbinger of of of like a new era where
1:31:47all of a sudden his yard is gonna fill
1:31:48up with junk cars but it only takes one
1:31:51yeah or he's doing something that the
1:31:54rest of us you know like here we he's
1:31:57our guru we need to follow him or on
1:32:00meth lab or meth lab right but you know
1:32:03eight thousand dollars you almost
1:32:04couldn't afford not to buy it I i was
1:32:08gonna guess I don't know how collectible
1:32:09these things are imagine they need a
1:32:11fair amount of maintenance and upkeep it
1:32:13yeah i was gonna just starting at 25
1:32:15yeah so and I think you know you can fix
1:32:17them up so now I'm now i'm in this whole
1:32:20mode where it's like well I'm gonna fix
1:32:22this thing up
1:32:23I would kind of like to return it to
1:32:26era-appropriate finishes by which i mean
1:32:31like sheepdog shag carpet
1:32:35uh-huh in burnt umber or what I'm
1:32:38looking at as a real it's real over a
1:32:40overbearing kind of green pattern and
1:32:42economic Otto exactly there's a lot of
1:32:43paisley yeah you keep yourself bunk beds
1:32:46yes but my like God bunk beds bunk beds
1:32:50and a queen size bed in the back and the
1:32:52AMIA the little uh little dinette set
1:32:55also turns into a full-size bed you put
1:32:5766 people in there if there are six
1:33:00people that are in love with each other
1:33:01you know what was the seventies you
1:33:04gotta be you gotta be cuddling it's a
1:33:06little bit of a key party scene and now
1:33:08some tarps and that I think about the
1:33:09the key party aspect of it I feel like
1:33:11what if you get three GMC rvs in any one
1:33:14place there's going to be wife-swapping
1:33:15god oh my god i would just I want to see
1:33:24this thing just just pulled up to my
1:33:26house someday wasn't much can be driving
1:33:28that far apart again that's what it's
1:33:30meant for mean it really like this make
1:33:32it you think
1:33:33yeah i'm gonna go the first thing I'm
1:33:34gonna do is go through all the systems
1:33:36and make sure that mechanically it is
1:33:39ready to its only 50,000 miles on like
1:33:41mechanically I'm getting this was
1:33:44sitting somewhere for a long time oh
1:33:45yeah i was sitting in some guys barn
1:33:48probably somebody somebody had it and
1:33:49maybe it had something worth fixing died
1:33:51and another for 20-30 years became old
1:33:54and then there is so yeah i'm gonna i'm
1:33:58i'm preparing it to be my land yacht I'm
1:34:00gonna take it up and down the coast all
1:34:02the time and and it's gonna be my gonna
1:34:06be my new scene is gonna be my weekend
1:34:07thing
1:34:08oh this is you know what buddy I gotta
1:34:11tell you I think this is a good move i
1:34:12think it's a healthy move and I think
1:34:14it's a way to potentially channel a lot
1:34:18of your occupations no no pseudo
1:34:24distractions concerns and relative
1:34:27primitive gestures into one coach the
1:34:31thing I'm the only thing I'm worried
1:34:32about is that I just gave myself and i
1:34:37all-consuming leisure activity that I
1:34:39wasn't you know I wasn't sitting around
1:34:43like I don't have enough time for I have
1:34:47too much time and I'd like to burn
1:34:48something a diet time and money that i
1:34:51want to burn in a new leisure activity
1:34:52it's very much like getting a boat it's
1:34:55just a dance better than about yes
1:34:57priming boats boats ridonkulous
1:34:59expensive to keep up
1:35:00yeah and with this I mean especially if
1:35:02you're not doing too many might want to
1:35:03buy the nice triple-a is there some kind
1:35:05of super triple-a you can get there is i
1:35:07already have it
1:35:08oh yeah I got a nice trip away a long
1:35:10time ago because I because what I didn't
1:35:13want was to call triple-a and have them
1:35:15tell me something to help me tell me
1:35:17that they look no excuses like yeah I
1:35:20was just like I'm gonna get the biggest
1:35:21triple-a so that when i call you from
1:35:24somewhere out in the boonies you come
1:35:26without giving me a bunch of rigmarole
1:35:27doesn't take too many uses of that to
1:35:30really pay for itself
1:35:31oh it's an amazing service even though
1:35:33even though as we've said well as we've
1:35:36said before at least fifty percent of
1:35:38the time you call triple-a you get
1:35:40somebody who doesn't even know like they
1:35:43probably their mom times their shoes in
1:35:45the morning know someone who were very
1:35:46confusing and 1.8 basically became a
1:35:50proxy for going to the mechanic for me
1:35:52oh yeah to wear a circa nineteen
1:35:54eighty-nine I got the letter because you
1:35:57can get the letter from home
1:35:58what's the letter you get the ladder and
1:36:00triple-a says hey look you're you're
1:36:02overdoing it overdoing it like the week
1:36:04that we can't be doing this twice a
1:36:05month for you
1:36:06yeah right and and that and I know that
1:36:09too and the other day I was I the GMC RV
1:36:12because it had been sitting for a long
1:36:14time its battery wouldn't hold a charge
1:36:16so i went down to the autozone and i
1:36:18bought a hot new battery and and my
1:36:22family was like oh why don't you just
1:36:24call triple-a get them to come and and I
1:36:26was like because i'm saving up and you
1:36:29get to keep your powder dry and saving
1:36:31up my triple-a calls because i just
1:36:32bought a 40 year old RV it's couch i
1:36:37have 40 year old coach and when i call
1:36:39triple-a it's going to be serious right
1:36:41a bigger bigger bigger touchback
1:36:44I'm gonna be way way out somewhere
1:36:46I'm gonna need I'm gonna need some help
1:36:48on this special higher class like super
1:36:52secret black card version triple-a for
1:36:54people who have a coach we pay like 35
1:36:56times as much but they will actually
1:36:58like to you to it to a sex depends on
1:37:00like what's available where you are in
1:37:02death valley your options might be kind
1:37:03of limited i actually have that black
1:37:06card RV motorcycle
1:37:10okay i know i officially believe you
1:37:12didn't know existed
1:37:13yep RV motorcycle where they'll pick up
1:37:17a motorcycle which is a certain kind of
1:37:18weird knowing where they need a flatbed
1:37:21and then they will also to an RV so I'm
1:37:23expecting that when i finally call
1:37:25triple-a i will have to hitchhike to a
1:37:28phone booth to get them on the phone
1:37:30because there won't be cell service and
1:37:33i'm going to say listen I know it's time
1:37:35that's how you know open the provisions
1:37:37like this it i'm at mile poor milepost
1:37:394,000 on the and on UFO highway and I
1:37:47need anything really really really big
1:37:48talker huh i certainly think we could
1:37:50just give you a push nope don't think
1:37:52that's gonna work that was going to push
1:37:53we get the fuck you level triple-a that
1:37:55we've got this will give you a push if
1:37:56you had that I know they want to give
1:37:59you a point i think there's levels of
1:38:00time and liability involved in different
1:38:02things and I've on numerous occasions
1:38:05had them want to put just do you steer
1:38:08and we'll push that anyone hook you up
1:38:10whoa again really don't want to bring
1:38:11out the big roll away where they pushing
1:38:13you
1:38:14they get behind you with the big bumper
1:38:15and they they want to push you to wear
1:38:17to wherever you're goin wherever it
1:38:19needs to be driven
1:38:20well that doesn't sound safe at all yeah
1:38:22you want that's it's worth upgrading
1:38:23from that I guess a yep get the good
1:38:27triple-a em so about but the the number
1:38:32one thing about restoring an RV is that
1:38:35the danger is that you get in there and
1:38:38you start putting spice in the spice
1:38:39rack right but oh you don't lose your
1:38:42way
1:38:43yeah right you've got you can't occupy
1:38:45it until you've got it straightened out
1:38:50you know you can't just start going in
1:38:52there and putting throw pillows around
1:38:54if you're going to rip up the carpet
1:38:55right and so she also you do want to use
1:38:59it
1:39:00yeah thing you don't want this to just
1:39:01be a boat project we're just a rich guy
1:39:03with nothing better to do this is you
1:39:05want your family to be able to roll
1:39:06around in this that's right so so so the
1:39:08current challenges prioritizing fix it
1:39:11up projects so that we get the we get
1:39:15the main mechanical ones done
1:39:17immediately and then we get the we have
1:39:19a list of the other mechanical stuff
1:39:21that we need to get done and then we
1:39:23have like how how much like fabric
1:39:29cleaner and windex do we need to get in
1:39:34here and start enjoying it i look at
1:39:36that windshield you can just see
1:39:37everything can it's a big big windshield
1:39:39and it's one of the nice things about
1:39:40them is that so they just have huge
1:39:43windows I see this this i mean like this
1:39:45inside it's likely it's like you're
1:39:47living room
1:39:47yeah so it's it's so it feels very light
1:39:49and airy in there it's not it doesn't
1:39:52feel like a claustrophobic RV is stinky
1:39:55well how stinky is it stinky in the
1:39:58sense that at some point along the way
1:40:00an old person put some sort of fabric
1:40:04softener got a potpourri solution yeah
1:40:06potpourri and so you walk in there and
1:40:09you're like I don't know what the bad
1:40:10smells are in this place because it's
1:40:12all covered with potpourri they could it
1:40:16could be terrible
1:40:17it could smell like mold and cats and
1:40:20and end times in there but but i don't
1:40:24but you want to know what it is you're
1:40:26smelling and you're gonna be able to
1:40:27keep the varmints out of this probably
1:40:28right he's got good seals and everything
1:40:30yeah but I feel like keep environments
1:40:32out is also another thing like leaks
1:40:34where you just know that it's part of RV
1:40:37ownership that that mice are going to
1:40:40try and get into your RV coach life
1:40:42that's correct that's right coach life
1:40:44it's ok it's it's my it's my new life
1:40:45coach life is the good life
1:40:48it's getting ugly dress at all you get
1:40:50captain's hat it's very unclear to me
1:40:52how to dress in a seventies RVD dragon
1:40:56Commodore Schmidlapp kind of look for
1:40:57you
1:40:58mm you know i'm thinking a
1:40:59double-breasted navy blazer Atlee
1:41:01east ok I I you know I can't believe I
1:41:04just said this I said are you gonna get
1:41:05a captain's hat I you will probably
1:41:07choose captains hat from amongst the
1:41:09ones you have already
1:41:11the problem with the with my current
1:41:13captain's hat selection is that I have
1:41:14some shitty captain's hats
1:41:16let's setup great huh it's time to
1:41:18upgrade to get a good captain's hat that
1:41:20befits my status as the captain captain
1:41:24the coach food
1:41:25coach congratulations you're gonna love
1:41:34it
1:41:34you can wait your whole family's gonna
1:41:36let we're gonna drive around San
1:41:37Francisco together we're going to cause
1:41:39a lot of problems for people in this
1:41:40yep yep