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Ep. 177: "When Fleece Became Flannel"

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0:00:03month they invited sincere engineer to

0:00:06help me say hi to john

0:00:13Roger I gotta lie

0:00:18hello

0:00:24I John mm-hmm

0:00:28hi Merlin how's it going it's going well

0:00:32it's going well

0:00:33sounds good sounds good you sound like a

0:00:35man restored

0:00:37it's pouring down rain here and has been

0:00:39for days and that is very good you know

0:00:44it's really thats whatever but you know

0:00:46what's really interesting is it's

0:00:47raining here a ho

0:00:49yeah when it rains the San Francisco man

0:00:51that's a smart that's far that everybody

0:00:53is gonna smell haha

0:00:55it washes washes them all down into the

0:00:59sea does one day a real rain is gonna

0:01:02come here at this time of year when the

0:01:06rain comes the cold also coming in the

0:01:10rain and the cold arrive together and it

0:01:13scares the living daylights out of all

0:01:15the people who arrived at any point in

0:01:19the last nine months I don't become

0:01:22suddenly yeah and all the people that

0:01:24are like I moved there in march and

0:01:26seattle's amazing

0:01:27yeah and they just they spent the whole

0:01:30summer thinking that Seattle was amazing

0:01:31and then the cold icy death grip hand of

0:01:36winter arrives just arrives wanna get

0:01:40soda pig in a poke me an enemy that

0:01:42having Tallahassee they brought me there

0:01:44like all come we want you to get this

0:01:46job in Tallahassee come visit and as it

0:01:49turned out they brought me there in the

0:01:51midst of a festival called springtime

0:01:53tallahassee and is the one week a year

0:01:55when it's really nice and tallahassee up

0:01:58exactly right

0:02:00you go you go you go in there stairs and

0:02:02flowers and you know children are making

0:02:04daisy chains and running around the

0:02:06Maypole and then like a week later it's

0:02:08like 95 degrees right and 95 degrees and

0:02:11and and the like the witches are

0:02:13building little stick figures out in the

0:02:15for the swamps right they start early

0:02:18their Halloween starts earlier every

0:02:19year John it's already starting 2016

0:02:21Helen so that's already in stores as i

0:02:24was driving in as i was driving in a you

0:02:27know I went past the methadone clinic

0:02:28and everybody there is running for cover

0:02:30and then all the people

0:02:31that have built camps like all the camps

0:02:35in the in the medians and up and kind of

0:02:37under the freeway and stuff you can just

0:02:39see the blue tarps come out and people

0:02:41are like holy shit

0:02:42ah my tent weeks that's sucks

0:02:46oh my god it sucks to be wet it's brutal

0:02:48and and then all of the Amazon all the

0:02:51like young guys in the j.crew suits and

0:02:54all the tight jeans people and all the

0:02:57Macklemore haircut people who are making

0:03:01a hundred eighty thousand dollars a year

0:03:02are like no amount of thousands of

0:03:05dollars a year can compensate me for

0:03:07this feeling which is that my bones are

0:03:10cold

0:03:10uh-huh and and then I go me haha

0:03:16because my bones have no feelings oh is

0:03:18that right not at all you seem like a

0:03:19man's bones would have maybe even

0:03:21sensitivity sometimes yeah maybe you're

0:03:23right i know probably not find that

0:03:25funny should bring this up because this

0:03:26is actually this is not by topic for the

0:03:27show but my lady and I are both actively

0:03:31looking for new of rain gear

0:03:34oh yeah I got a marmot jacket to

0:03:36replacement old marmot jacket and I told

0:03:39you this a few weeks ago and it looks

0:03:41it's virtually identical to the marmot

0:03:43jacket I've been wearing forever

0:03:44it's got one critical piece missing

0:03:46which is does not have the front outside

0:03:49pocket into which one could put and I

0:03:51thought oh what is why did they take

0:03:53that way you know i'm guessing cost

0:03:57yeah but you know that that's a shame

0:03:59but like in Russia as this is super

0:04:01interesting

0:04:02she's looking also first ring here it's

0:04:04like to be warm so now I've taken upon

0:04:06myself as a good husband to try and find

0:04:08her some some cure that will be warm now

0:04:10filson the filson where that's a

0:04:12commitment when you get filson you're

0:04:14getting the whole lifestyle right i

0:04:15don't own a single fill something right

0:04:17now

0:04:17yeah but thing about Phil's and stuff

0:04:19let's be honest film stuff is a

0:04:22commitment to being wet it's not it is

0:04:27like buying hip-waders right you want

0:04:28you want like you real now you're gonna

0:04:30find someplace where you could really

0:04:31get in the water

0:04:32yeah but you're gonna be I mean it's wax

0:04:34cotton and wool it's the old style of

0:04:38dealing with the rain which is like i am

0:04:41going to be

0:04:43wet in the rain and I'm gonna be smelly

0:04:46in the rain but i'm not going to die

0:04:48like a sheepdog

0:04:49yeah i'm not going to die in the rain

0:04:51because i have this somewhat like

0:04:53impenetrable material on but i am not

0:04:57i'm not trying to do this like Healy

0:04:59handsome thing where I step out of my

0:05:01rain gear and I'm just dry and it's a

0:05:04it's much more of a like I'm going to

0:05:06live in the in the rain

0:05:08that's interesting is my lady actually

0:05:10has a healing Hanson I think it's a

0:05:12yachting I'm you can't use the word

0:05:14yachting without sounding like an

0:05:16asshole but I it's down to like I think

0:05:18it actually has like a little bored hole

0:05:20we can put a rope through and stuff yeah

0:05:22sure

0:05:23and that boy is that ever you can just

0:05:24shoot water that thing all day long as

0:05:25laugh at you

0:05:26so here it's so all of the Alaskan

0:05:28fisherman they before they go up to

0:05:31their new season they all go around and

0:05:35they get a new season's worth of healy

0:05:37Hanson stuff and it's like a suit you

0:05:42know and it's impervious it's truly I

0:05:46mean if Alaska fishermen choose it then

0:05:50you can be guaranteed that there isn't a

0:05:52better thing maybe we should fill in

0:05:53some blanks for people who are in places

0:05:54that have rain but we're talking about

0:05:57it sounds seems to me like we're talking

0:05:58about a distinction with Wilson you've

0:06:01got some old-world technologies in

0:06:04please try some some basically medieval

0:06:07starways of waxing a sheep or something

0:06:09so you can put it on

0:06:10whereas in the other camp over here

0:06:12interesting with my right hand you've

0:06:14got more of what I will call technicals

0:06:15you've got things like you've got modern

0:06:17modern fabrics modern materials and

0:06:19methods to have a light maybe it's not

0:06:21working

0:06:22it might have working that's right

0:06:23working isn't a big part of having

0:06:25technical is working well you know

0:06:27wicking that's it then you get into your

0:06:28polypropylenes I feel like there are the

0:06:31people who say who so so it's a as your

0:06:36as the lightness of the fabric the light

0:06:40not just light-colored but like light

0:06:44could like the less you feel the garment

0:06:47be made it maybe it's waterproofness is

0:06:52there but its hardiness goes away so

0:06:55like when I

0:06:56in seattle in the northwest if you see a

0:06:59alignment up on a phone pole in the dead

0:07:03of winter changing some transformer

0:07:07uh-huh in Seattle

0:07:09there's a very good chance he's gonna be

0:07:10wearing filson because it's not just

0:07:13that he wants to be protected against

0:07:16the elements but he's also doing hard

0:07:19work up a phone pole in the window right

0:07:21it's like almost like I was I've been a

0:07:23fan of the carhartt product line in the

0:07:24past that like those like a logging

0:07:27pants those pants with like that the

0:07:28extra me and I'm like you can't kill

0:07:29those things you can climb up all day

0:07:31long it would make a scratch and and

0:07:33feels the same except that except the

0:07:35car it's like the carhartt pants was

0:07:36then additionally dipped in hot wax and

0:07:39allow to cool and really appealing he

0:07:42had some amazing it's amazing when you

0:07:44see lineman in them you realize like oh

0:07:47this is a guy who could pick any he

0:07:50needs his clothes to be like a like a

0:07:53suit of armor another it's another tool

0:07:55yeah and it's these are not expensive

0:07:57items but are not inexpensive items but

0:07:59he has chosen them because it's

0:08:01necessary and and Healy Hanson it's not

0:08:04something you would want to ski in right

0:08:06it's not something that you would want a

0:08:08mountain bike in or or do any kind of

0:08:11like we kind of things it's stuff that I

0:08:15mean when you are honored on a fishing

0:08:17boat in Alaska the weather becomes the

0:08:20weather becomes sentient it is

0:08:23absolutely trying to kill you it is

0:08:25trying to it is trying to drown you on

0:08:27your feet like as you stand the weather

0:08:30is trying to cause you to suffocate in

0:08:33water business and so the Healey Hanson

0:08:35stuff is for that and and also your

0:08:38you're like pulling monsters out of an

0:08:42iron Gracie which is only not frozen

0:08:47because its ocean it's too mad to be

0:08:50frozen

0:08:51you're pulling monsters out of the

0:08:53depths of this and killing them with

0:08:56hooks and so that's so it's a different

0:08:59kind of gear then if you're like

0:09:01snowboarding right right and so as you

0:09:05get up but if you're snowboarding you

0:09:07don't want to be covered with all this

0:09:08weird

0:09:10like bulletproof fabric you just kind of

0:09:12want to stay warm and dry

0:09:13that's a series of trade off so it's a

0:09:15continuum like columbia sportswear

0:09:17company which is a company from up here

0:09:19that stuff will keep you warm and dry

0:09:22I'm looking at one right now that looks

0:09:24like it's right in my wheelhouse and

0:09:27this is the looking at the columbia is

0:09:33this jacket but the thing is it's it's

0:09:35it's very wide purporting to this review

0:09:37on the site i enjoy cool tools they say

0:09:39that it is it's good it's very warm but

0:09:42like you can even wear for too long as

0:09:44you can so warm and look it's very good

0:09:46at repelling water and it's got a hood

0:09:49but you really look like you work at

0:09:51uber yeah you know that look

0:09:54oh yeah I do and and that's the that is

0:09:57the modern trade off now in the old days

0:10:00eddie bauer was the was the company that

0:10:04made stuff that was like it was burly

0:10:07enough but also you could you could wear

0:10:11it in town

0:10:12uh-huh or you know you could wear it up

0:10:14on the mountain you can wear it in town

0:10:15you didn't look like a dork but eddie

0:10:17bauer went any powers went the wrong way

0:10:20they sold their soul to the man and then

0:10:24everything like the the other day we

0:10:26were trying i was driving with the

0:10:28friend who's in town it was Halloween

0:10:30and we a couple of people are trying to

0:10:33get across the street you know we in the

0:10:35northwest if somebody stands on the edge

0:10:37of the sidewalk and looks at you you are

0:10:39obligated to stop and let them cross the

0:10:41street that is this the cultural norm

0:10:44here and may even be the law although

0:10:47the cops never stopped for you you stand

0:10:49on the sidewalk and stare right at them

0:10:50and they'll just look at look straight

0:10:52ahead and keep driving shark eyes but

0:10:54the rest of us are expected to stop for

0:10:56our fellow citizens and these two you

0:10:59know they're probably early sixties

0:11:01they're both wearing Outdoor Research

0:11:06hats which are kind of a strange hybrid

0:11:10of like an Australian bush hat except

0:11:13it's made out of cortex and it has it

0:11:16has strings you know it's like a chin

0:11:18rope sure i caii thought that a dad hat

0:11:21it's a little bit of a dad

0:11:22but but but mom and dad are both wearing

0:11:25these hats and they're wearing the

0:11:27requisite like purple fleece some cortex

0:11:32some you know the like cargo pants by a

0:11:35company called cool which is K uhl cool

0:11:39with them i think there's even a whom

0:11:42lot in there where their logo has a

0:11:44mountain in the background

0:11:45enough already and and they've got some

0:11:48kind of Solomon adventure shoe and just

0:11:52making up words no no and I'm and I'm

0:11:54looking at across the street tonight and

0:11:56i turn my but my lady friend and I'm

0:11:58like is that a halloween costume

0:12:00I mean they are so Northwest I'm coming

0:12:04as everyone in the Pacific Northwest

0:12:05yeah it's like it's it's ludicrous the

0:12:08only thing they need right now our ski

0:12:10poles that they're using to go on a

0:12:12brisk walk right maybe like carrying

0:12:14carrying a coffee a locally sourced

0:12:16coffee and riding a hoverboard

0:12:18mm that's the those who haven't yet you

0:12:21can hover boards around now that's the

0:12:23young people think these these people

0:12:24are like they are ready to go up Mount

0:12:27Baker right now except they're not

0:12:30anywhere near Mount Baker City replay

0:12:32people look like you could its you could

0:12:34i've also many it's difficult to tell

0:12:36are they going out for half and half are

0:12:38they on their way to climb Mount Tam or

0:12:41are potentially going to a wine tasting

0:12:44that's where there's a certain kind of

0:12:45fleece upscale fleece that people wear

0:12:48to all of those things

0:12:49yeah and-and-and for me the moment that

0:12:53the moment that like fleece became

0:12:56flannel right when police became flannel

0:13:00there was a there was a sea change in

0:13:04all of our lives like there was flannel

0:13:08for long long time and you know flannel

0:13:11and like moleskine and then there was

0:13:15police and once there was police certain

0:13:17certain large segment of the population

0:13:20up here just never thought about clothes

0:13:23again

0:13:24and interesting yes

0:13:28yeah you know it's funny uh-uh I don't

0:13:30know I'm again that we always get the

0:13:31word wrong is it inertia but there's

0:13:33something happened something comes along

0:13:34and there's different trends and all the

0:13:36sudden there's a thing there goes oh

0:13:37yeah that's for me the boot boot came

0:13:39along and suddenly like I guess every

0:13:42young woman who want to look like she

0:13:43just woke up I was wearing boots in

0:13:45boosting your yoga pants and put the

0:13:48other pants

0:13:49I mean yoga pants yoga pants look I'm

0:13:51pro yoga pants don't get me yeah well

0:13:54you know you never know when you just

0:13:55might need to do some yoga sure it goes

0:13:58somewhere maybe you got a hot Sam you go

0:14:00to an orange julius uh-huh well the

0:14:03thing about yoga pants like that

0:14:04somewhere along the line the technology

0:14:06of pants changed so that they were they

0:14:10were but lifting pants have wondered

0:14:12about that it has a brassiere like

0:14:14quality yes yes and then I what I

0:14:17accomplished that if I were you up and I

0:14:18don't know I honestly don't know i think

0:14:20if i put on yoga pants that it would be

0:14:23bad it would be bad luck to see you in

0:14:26yoga pants but there was there was a

0:14:28time when I was when I was in my teens

0:14:30even where there were not that many

0:14:34pants that made your butt look good it

0:14:39was and you have to have a certain kind

0:14:41of but you use definitely to certain

0:14:43kind of but you're right there didn't

0:14:45used to be used to be you could have

0:14:46like formal so you can have a formal

0:14:48slack

0:14:48mmm you can have whatever looks good no

0:14:51no you couldn't know absolutely no no

0:14:53absolutely not that's why you got to

0:14:54have the flap that goes over the back

0:14:55with events that's right ok i'm using

0:14:57basically every closed word that I know

0:14:59at this point and then you got you got

0:15:01your doctor stockies you know maybe with

0:15:04the pleated front of I know your family

0:15:05pleaded from even before dockers existed

0:15:08right i mean i'm thinking about nineteen

0:15:10eighty-four whatever if you wanted to

0:15:12grab your butt look good

0:15:13what did you do I mean you could wear

0:15:15Levi's if you have Levi's but but not

0:15:17everybody has a Levi's but oh no oh no I

0:15:20think jonathan richman his whole song

0:15:22about this

0:15:23oh well I mean it's about genes but i

0:15:25think by extension it's about butts is

0:15:27that you know we don't all have the kind

0:15:29of but that one would want to show off

0:15:31and i think a Levi's style pants

0:15:33generally is a little bit more hanging

0:15:35we're talking at this point 84 you're

0:15:38really talking about the the twilight of

0:15:40the Jordache and take over the

0:15:43Vanderbilt gloria vanderbilt years

0:15:45yeah sure live live in Britannia all

0:15:47that stuff is about some high-waisted

0:15:48jeans talking about a high waisted jean

0:15:51it's a dark rinse and it's very but

0:15:54centric and I think we're seeing the

0:15:56twilight of the but pan at that point

0:15:58but I always felt like those highways to

0:16:00gloria vanderbilt jeans were like if

0:16:01you're if you have a pair but if your

0:16:03butt looks like a pair huh

0:16:05then something I'm sorry just to clarify

0:16:07because the audio single pair up i'm

0:16:10sorry/not pair PA ir going up there the

0:16:14bear fruit PE AR care if you're like

0:16:18adults chin you got like a little bit of

0:16:20up

0:16:21yeah yeah okay right now I mean that if

0:16:22it looks like a Bartlett pear let's say

0:16:24right Barlow pair then you can wear

0:16:27gloria vanderbilt jeans you look

0:16:28fantastic little blue pair huh a denim

0:16:32pair right one who doesn't want that but

0:16:34if you have any kind of lumpy butt or

0:16:36square but or whatever maybe get a plum

0:16:39but or like a plum but now you can buy

0:16:43you might have some kind of a

0:16:43little-little who is a melon I don't

0:16:46mean in the sense of like you know you

0:16:49no pickup truck sighs I'm talking about

0:16:50more like you've just gotta like a

0:16:52misshapen cantaloupe

0:16:54yeah regularly and with bumps and lumps

0:16:56and stuff for your god I mean you don't

0:16:58want your butt to look like it's in a

0:16:59bag right so but then then one day and

0:17:05that would happen in the late nineties

0:17:07be seven for all mankind jeans arrived

0:17:11which had some crazy technology which

0:17:15are was all constructed in denim they

0:17:17didn't there wasn't any it's not like

0:17:20there was a wire underpinning but all of

0:17:24a sudden seven for all mankind jeans

0:17:26arrived and everyone could wear our

0:17:28mentor i'm talking about women now

0:17:29everyone could wear them and they look

0:17:31great on everybody was just like what

0:17:34happened why didn't we know how to do

0:17:35this before they just ran their sewing

0:17:38machines through this denim in a

0:17:39slightly different way and now that they

0:17:41look amazing on everything that's insane

0:17:43it's like how he discovered flat iron

0:17:44steak you start you can start cutting

0:17:46the steer a different angle you get a

0:17:48Dutch angle

0:17:49and then you're able to find an entire

0:17:50state nobody ever discovered before your

0:17:51I've never heard of seven for all

0:17:52mankind i'm looking at it now you're

0:17:54telling me they came up with some kind

0:17:56of technology that will enable you to

0:17:57depending on a bias you're doing some

0:18:00kind of verticality the kids a special

0:18:02lift and gravitas

0:18:04let's that's right that's right and then

0:18:06yoga pants came out employing what i can

0:18:09only imagine is the same technology

0:18:10except in like stretchy sweat pants

0:18:13material that then they I'm sure do

0:18:16wicking they will play with the shit out

0:18:18of you

0:18:19I guess their primary performance

0:18:20characteristic probably waking and yoga

0:18:23pants look amazing on everybody and all

0:18:25of a sudden it just made me feel like

0:18:27all of all in all through my teen years

0:18:29and twenties we didn't have this

0:18:31technology and now we do and I think the

0:18:34world has been improved huh

0:18:36okay less less less stress even if

0:18:39you're not wearing it all the time you

0:18:40know it's out there it's like well says

0:18:43and so today I that's where is that I

0:18:46didn't it didn't take it took me a

0:18:48second

0:18:48oh yes just exactly like ninjas I walked

0:18:52out of the house today i'm wearing

0:18:53skinny jeans i'm a man in middle age

0:18:55wearing these skinny jeans that are

0:18:58basically leggings let's let's call a

0:19:01spade a spade

0:19:02i I just it's just like a cut the

0:19:04stirrups off the bottom of Paris stirrup

0:19:06pants and I'm walking around in them and

0:19:09and I presume I look cool and I think

0:19:12everybody agrees they look very cool

0:19:15this is not this is not a thing that

0:19:17would have been possible before

0:19:19yeah right it's a kind of it's a kind of

0:19:21technology that I have hardly embraced

0:19:24can't believe how different genes can

0:19:26feel your pants really just pants in

0:19:28general and because first of all I mean

0:19:30is this basic problem of my gosh where

0:19:32to begin but there's a whole problem of

0:19:34when you're doing a lot of like you know

0:19:36when you've got children making pants in

0:19:38Asia is going to be some variations so

0:19:41like I learned a long time ago you

0:19:42should actually try on a couple

0:19:43different pairs even if it's just jeans

0:19:45wow I've never done that that's it's not

0:19:47a bad idea I've had some lady friends

0:19:48that would never consider just certainly

0:19:51not just buying them off the rack you

0:19:53try them on your mattress several pairs

0:19:54line but the less expensive fancier

0:19:56clothes get the more likely are they are

0:19:58to be like well made and consistently

0:20:00made and to be true to size but let go

0:20:02go look

0:20:02sighs your pants now and not those pants

0:20:04but your other pants you look at your

0:20:05501 we talked about this

0:20:06it might be hom Mexico it might be a cho

0:20:09and in China you there's all kinds of

0:20:11places where the HR jeans at this point

0:20:13hmm you know and so the thing is you try

0:20:16that on and the variations i mean i can

0:20:18get pretty sloppy you can get you can

0:20:20get some serious fruit but without even

0:20:22intending well yeah I made a decision

0:20:25not very long ago that i did not want to

0:20:28buy anything anymore that was a cho in

0:20:32China

0:20:32Wow and it wasn't because i'm against

0:20:36China it was just a decision that i

0:20:39needed to i needed to just set some

0:20:41limits on things right you need you need

0:20:44to you need to define the space and

0:20:48friends want to make these big sweeping

0:20:50changes but like you can actually be

0:20:51very profound to make a change even as

0:20:53small as nature in China

0:20:54yeah you just youyou you you defense off

0:20:57the garden to keep the deer out and so

0:21:01for me it was just like there's a lot of

0:21:03stuff being made in China right now and

0:21:07so if I just decide not to buy any of it

0:21:10that protects me from too much just that

0:21:15I mean it it it makes the first decision

0:21:18for me it's already made nothing made in

0:21:21china so thing shows up I look at it is

0:21:23made in china no thank you

0:21:25and it's just a way of sorting and then

0:21:29and then I had to make some decisions

0:21:32right because there's a lot of stuff

0:21:33that says made in Hong Kong or made in

0:21:36Macau uh-huh

0:21:38now would you say that those were made

0:21:41in China have to have to google it

0:21:43are those are or no so what about the

0:21:46one with the PRC or you got isn't there

0:21:49to get the People's Republic oh you're

0:21:51talk about Taiwan is that I want and

0:21:53then you could have done that is that

0:21:54technically part of China well and I

0:21:56mean depending on who you ask if you ask

0:21:58someone in china right they're going to

0:22:01say that Taiwan is part of China but if

0:22:03you have someone in taiwan they're going

0:22:05to say no right no one is not part of

0:22:07China it is its own but it's not exactly

0:22:09the kind of thing that factor in your

0:22:11decision you're scratching your head

0:22:12wondering where this is HL well the

0:22:14thing is I feel like it

0:22:16in in my in my sort of worldview right i

0:22:19support taiwan because they have decided

0:22:24that they're not part of China and I

0:22:25support them

0:22:26china deciding that Taiwan is still part

0:22:29of China if they just are currently

0:22:31administered by a by a rogue government

0:22:35I don't support that because you simply

0:22:37because i think China is big enough and

0:22:40Taiwan can be its own thing it should be

0:22:42its own thing it's something I in fact I

0:22:44have a good friend whose families from

0:22:46taiwan and he is feel strongly about it

0:22:49and so I support my friend now

0:22:52Macau and Hong Kong both were their own

0:22:59colonies right hong kong was a colony of

0:23:03the United Kingdom and Macau is a colony

0:23:06of Portugal and they were like they were

0:23:09like city city states where they you

0:23:15know I think macau was big in the opium

0:23:17trade and you know gambling they were

0:23:20like sin city's hong kong was more of an

0:23:23administrative city after a while the

0:23:26brits used it to administer their

0:23:27long-term far-flung Empire huh

0:23:31but then times changed and in in the

0:23:36late nineties are the whenever's the

0:23:39nineties both of those things so this is

0:23:41what's crazy to me they were basically

0:23:45least like it's one of those 99-year

0:23:47leases where you sign a 99-year lease

0:23:49and you're like when I'm gonna be dead

0:23:51before this lease expires

0:23:53what is what even is a 99-year lease

0:23:56well that's one of those things like a

0:23:58Steve Jobs a dollar a year that kind of

0:24:00thing

0:24:00well i got i know a guy here i used to

0:24:02live in a building like an old warehouse

0:24:04here where the guy who owned it didn't

0:24:08really own it he had a 99-year lease and

0:24:12he was he was saving area I mean he was

0:24:15he fixed up the building just enough

0:24:17that it could inhabit people and then it

0:24:20was just like a rent generator for him

0:24:22he couldn't I don't think we develop the

0:24:26property and he could maybe subs

0:24:29LOL his lease i'm not really sure 99

0:24:32year lease I mean he's going to be dead

0:24:33long time before that but he has this

0:24:3799-year lease on the thing so anyway the

0:24:40Great Britain and Portugal had these

0:24:41leases of these cities and one day they

0:24:44came up they come came up in China was

0:24:47like we don't renew your lease or

0:24:48whatever and the last vestige of that

0:24:52brand of colonialism and so both cities

0:24:55hong kong and macau returned to the

0:24:58return to China and they're like a

0:25:01special administration area one of those

0:25:04things so you pick up a shirt and it

0:25:08says made in Macau and you go out at

0:25:10least it's not made in china and then

0:25:12you go wait a minute that's just that

0:25:15some label trickery

0:25:17uh huh yeah you look at your phone and

0:25:20it will say you know so worried like an

0:25:22apple devices will frequently say

0:25:23something like designing California

0:25:25movie babilona yeah kinda made a stoner

0:25:30assembled assembled in austin mhm

0:25:33assembled in austin i don't know why but

0:25:36they they used to say it used to say you

0:25:39know everything you tell it's made in

0:25:40America thinking well it's but there's

0:25:43real switcheroo because there's some

0:25:44parts that come from here and there gets

0:25:46made in china and then it comes back

0:25:48here and I don't think they polish it

0:25:50here or something to put in the box i'm

0:25:51not sure

0:25:52yeah it's funny when you buy when you

0:25:53buy i just got my lady and I felt for

0:25:56her birthday and you'll see it's when it

0:25:59ships out of shells n so it's called the

0:26:02segment goes to Hong Kong and then make

0:26:04the big jump to ontario california but

0:26:06yeah you'll see that it's coming is

0:26:08coming right out of China

0:26:09I don't know what's amazing i think

0:26:11about Hong Kong and Macau is that they

0:26:13both are they both somehow have kept one

0:26:16foot in the capitalist world cow was

0:26:20Blake's they still gamble there it's

0:26:22like a James Bond town everything is a

0:26:26popular pastime in my neighborhood

0:26:28oh right the plan mahjongg there's

0:26:31mahjong there's mahjong fronts and there

0:26:35are places that are nominally you know

0:26:37bodega style convenience type stores

0:26:40that's basically it's just six

0:26:43elderly Chinese guys staring at Aquino

0:26:45screen when you say when you say mahjong

0:26:49front do you mean like people get a new

0:26:51set of teeth but they're made out of

0:26:53mahjong tiles

0:26:54yes it's not a chinese bridge not to be

0:26:57confused with contract bridge

0:26:58according to Hoyle now just totally

0:27:00different thing now

0:27:01no but that's a that's a I think

0:27:03gambling i think gambling is a big

0:27:05cultural thing in am I I can't say that

0:27:09for all of China China's a very big

0:27:10country but there are a lot of Chinese

0:27:12old especially older chinese guys and my

0:27:14neighborhood really are any camera and

0:27:16the young folks do they play a lot of

0:27:17cards if I just cards on the street all

0:27:19the time

0:27:19I mean this might be happening in other

0:27:21neighborhoods I can only speak from my

0:27:22own but so I don't know anything about

0:27:24macau I don't think I know anything

0:27:26about the cow

0:27:27yeah yeah watching that documentary

0:27:28about the Indonesian genocide I think

0:27:30they were a Portuguese what Protectorate

0:27:34colony calling all the colony

0:27:36yeah account look at that yeah you know

0:27:38the Portuguese had a strange man strange

0:27:41little Empire they were big ship people

0:27:43right

0:27:44they had a lot of ships yeah my

0:27:46experience in Portugal which is I mean

0:27:49not the world's most extensive

0:27:50experience but I've spent a good goodly

0:27:52amount of time in Portugal more than I

0:27:55ever expected I would do and you know

0:27:57the I think the tendency for us here in

0:28:00the United States is to think that

0:28:01Portugal is I don't know some flange of

0:28:05Spain yes like it's like spain jr but

0:28:08when you get to Portugal you realize

0:28:10that they really are different from the

0:28:12Spanish they look different they act

0:28:14different they are they are different

0:28:17and it's because they like hug this wild

0:28:21Atlantic coast and they just look

0:28:23they're more rugged mm-hmm

0:28:26and what if you ever want to know

0:28:28there's a difference just ask a

0:28:29Portuguese person who I'll see that's

0:28:30the thing if you ask a Spanish person

0:28:32they're going to say that there's no

0:28:33difference but if you ask a Portuguese

0:28:35person it's kind of like Portugal is the

0:28:37taiwan of of Spain cowboy and well you

0:28:41know in Rhode Island where my ladies

0:28:42from there are a lot of Portuguese

0:28:44people and I mean it really confuses the

0:28:46culture that's where they're very i hope

0:28:49this isn't too ping pong but they're

0:28:50very they're garrulous like very

0:28:52outgoing are very emotional people and

0:28:55it's

0:28:56it's kind of a fun vibe yeah wait for

0:28:58these food and I'm not so crazy they

0:29:00don't want a greasy fish there

0:29:02yeah and it's sort of like the Basques

0:29:04the Basque love a greasy fish it because

0:29:08it keeps their keep their pelts really

0:29:11soft anything told knows that that's

0:29:14that's good right

0:29:15I just recently met a person of Basque

0:29:19extraction and it caused me to think

0:29:22about you know a new friend and they

0:29:25caused me to

0:29:26I've also spent some time in basque

0:29:29country and i and i love it there and

0:29:31but i but then i was like wait a minute

0:29:34what the Basques do in World War two

0:29:38I have a pretty good sense of what

0:29:39everybody did during World War Two and I

0:29:42I treat people from European countries

0:29:45differently based on what my

0:29:46preconceived notion of what their

0:29:48grandfather did in World War two is

0:29:50right i kind of like oh hello nice to

0:29:53meet you

0:29:53I know what your grandfather did in

0:29:55World War two don't try and Buffalo me

0:29:57mr. i know what your grand like a

0:30:00terrible or movie had fun with work to

0:30:03you know it's one of those things where

0:30:05it's like you go into somebody's house

0:30:07and that you know what what people's

0:30:09grandfather's in Bavaria did in World

0:30:11War two is very different than what

0:30:13people grandfather's in the amber too

0:30:14much so much to say about this i'm

0:30:16looking at the page about Basque so

0:30:17baskets kinda like it's a little bit

0:30:19Spain little bit France little bit

0:30:20country little bit rock and roll yet so

0:30:22that it goes up into France it goes down

0:30:24into Spain and there you know and they

0:30:26kind of consider themselves as sort of a

0:30:28single tribe except you know the French

0:30:30Basques obviously her i'll say gracious

0:30:32loyal it was a Basque that's exactly

0:30:35right and he founded the Jesuits so the

0:30:38Basques you know very separate group of

0:30:40people their languages is to linguists

0:30:43it has no like analog in any other

0:30:47language in the world it is not an

0:30:49indo-european language it is a cookie

0:30:52why language that someone one day

0:30:54invented who lived up in the in the

0:30:57crazy Hills in northern Spain and I no

0:31:00one knows where it came from and no one

0:31:02it it doesn't behave like other

0:31:03languages

0:31:04it's a little bit you know it has it's

0:31:07one of those things where it's like

0:31:08well finish there's some there's some

0:31:12crazy aspect of finish like her go

0:31:16Hungarian languages which are similar to

0:31:18Japanese and really and nobody can

0:31:21understand how that's one reason I find

0:31:22Portuguese so interesting that up uh

0:31:24ruin my roommate for a while and

0:31:26military school was from portugal and

0:31:28when he would speak you know you hear on

0:31:30the phone talking to his family and he

0:31:32never spoke it you know there weren't a

0:31:33lot of Portuguese kids there but one out

0:31:34here I always said was so strange

0:31:36because it sounded to my twelve-year-old

0:31:38here

0:31:39it sounded almost exactly like a cross

0:31:41between spanish and german it had a lot

0:31:43of that group of the glottal kind of you

0:31:45know gotta roll filled up German but

0:31:47also the kind of like that little thing

0:31:48romance feel of spanish i feel like the

0:31:51gutter reality of Portuguese developed

0:31:55because they were shouting at each other

0:31:56across the deck of a ship that was in a

0:31:58storm

0:31:59I said that you know that i think they

0:32:01call it an adaptation with no answer key

0:32:02so call evolution

0:32:03Yeah right right right right yes because

0:32:06if you just if you you're not gonna be

0:32:07up there you know you know this is why

0:32:09the Italians never c never sailed is

0:32:11because it was too hard for them to yell

0:32:12over the wind it's not about selling a

0:32:14poem rights right that's why the

0:32:16Italians uh yeah they days whether it's

0:32:19like an unlocked

0:32:20they just stayed in Italy and they never

0:32:21got in boats because they didn't want it

0:32:23because their language which she was

0:32:25John about the you know what you know

0:32:29what it's shaped like a boat that shaped

0:32:31like a boot that's true i think that's a

0:32:33really good point but I but so the

0:32:35Basques that you know that their

0:32:37territory is very mountainous and if you

0:32:40were trying to invade and conquer those

0:32:43people you would fail which is why they

0:32:45did not they were not conquered they got

0:32:47two things go on their side they got a

0:32:48language were no it's like Stonehenge

0:32:50nobody knows where it came from and then

0:32:52you've also got the mountains united

0:32:54nations against any kind of a attack you

0:32:56can't get in can't get out and then when

0:32:58you get there it's hard to ask for

0:32:59directions because we like you know from

0:33:00here

0:33:01that's right you're not speaking the

0:33:02this and unintelligible language you can

0:33:03even learn it's like Navajo code talker

0:33:05you how many a pastor on united states

0:33:08well you know what i do i do know one

0:33:10thing about the Basques in the United

0:33:11States which is that they settled in

0:33:13idaho what the bellaire 57,000 793

0:33:17according to wikipedia and but 193 well

0:33:20as we don't come

0:33:21but never like that accidentally

0:33:22somebody had to see where that came from

0:33:25I think that my friend who is a basket

0:33:27got in here unbeknownst to wikipedia and

0:33:30she doesn't she's not be encountered in

0:33:32that figure because she because there

0:33:34was an intermediary relationship where

0:33:36she lived in knowing John no one knows

0:33:38how to ask her

0:33:40probably well that's right what do you

0:33:41what do you say like I mean not

0:33:43everybody that comes into the country

0:33:45gets asked i I've gone through customs

0:33:47enough times to know that they don't ask

0:33:48if you're Basque well-known they might

0:33:51misunderstand think your last name is

0:33:53actually the city are from make a chalk

0:33:54mark on your tagged and put in

0:33:55quarantine I'll see exactly right and

0:33:57then all of a sudden you're walking

0:33:58around Corleone here but that's right

0:34:01that's right yeah so a but i'll but i

0:34:03love that part of the world and they eat

0:34:05a lot of greasy fish but that's

0:34:07delicious wonderful i did I used to

0:34:09think I was not a greasy fish guy but

0:34:11then i had had some sardines in other

0:34:15categories your bow

0:34:17yeah you know like like the the herring

0:34:19the herrings from the herring family and

0:34:22they're just laying out these gigantic

0:34:24Greece fish and like I hope you like

0:34:28these and I I was like Hello

0:34:30but then i am and i said i do like them

0:34:33I understand what you're doing up here

0:34:34in bilbao I get it now but that but what

0:34:38I didn't know was what their

0:34:39grandfathers did in World War two and so

0:34:42I started a little bit of i started

0:34:44rabbit holding as you do about Fresno no

0:34:47I rabbit hole about friends know this

0:34:49morning but I rabbit hold about the

0:34:50Basques in World War two the morning

0:34:52trying to figure out a fortune for

0:34:53carpenters gay

0:34:54what did you come up with I'm like maybe

0:34:56a third of the way in right it's one

0:34:58that's not super clear this and I feel

0:35:00like that's where I am with the Basques

0:35:01in world war two and a third of the way

0:35:02and okay i figured out you know because

0:35:05the thing is that there is that whole

0:35:06business right spain was we get the get

0:35:09the get the fascist right there just

0:35:12coming off the the big war in the

0:35:13thirties that's right but there

0:35:15ostensibly neutral in the war and a lot

0:35:18of Allied Pilots that got shot down over

0:35:20France did that the French underground

0:35:22would take them down hand them over to

0:35:24the Basques the Basques would get them

0:35:27across into Spain and then the

0:35:29neutrality of of Spain would allow those

0:35:33pilots to find their way back

0:35:34come even though the Spanish were pretty

0:35:37allied with the Nazis but there was

0:35:40enough of a you know they would they be

0:35:41maintained enough of a sort of like

0:35:43neutral posture that Allied Pilots could

0:35:45get over there and then I realized that

0:35:48neighboring the basque country is a is

0:35:53the hollandaise sauce County oh that

0:35:59Belgium know it's a burn burn bear you

0:36:01no bare knees are barren that's

0:36:04excellent

0:36:05well no it's it's this it's like the

0:36:07coming holidays is not from Dutch no

0:36:09that's what's amazing about its of me

0:36:11I'm branch that's and and that then this

0:36:14Bearnaise so I don't think the sauce is

0:36:18actually from Baron what about béchamel

0:36:20where's that from

0:36:21I'm sure they're all from France there

0:36:22there were no sausage before friends is

0:36:25that right

0:36:26there's all their idea before that

0:36:27people only had dry drying meets yeah it

0:36:30probably is probably boiled vegetables

0:36:32yeah they thought no thought of sauce

0:36:33they put it put everything in a pot

0:36:35boiled it through some salt and some

0:36:37dirt in that was one on Z and then the

0:36:41French were like what if we made an

0:36:42emulsification of mayonnaise and through

0:36:45like some tarragon in it and then the

0:36:49world was forever changed em but all

0:36:53those sauces i think i think they did

0:36:55they came from the north but they were

0:36:56called the they named it

0:36:58béarnaise because they don't know

0:37:00because it was they were doing somebody

0:37:02an honor right like oh you're from Baron

0:37:05we're going to name it béarnaise your

0:37:07name is sauce for you and there's a

0:37:10marshal of France but they're called the

0:37:12God sauces I stand corrected it's the

0:37:14mother sauces mother sauces sasa

0:37:16associate mommy air you've got the best

0:37:19email you got s spy spagnoli it's got it

0:37:25only ESP hele and I've ever heard that

0:37:29holidays to tomahto and veloute oh

0:37:32that's the mother sauces and so a new

0:37:34mommy Oh mommy I think that's the one on

0:37:36the back of the tongue that the Japanese

0:37:38discovered yeah we struggle at all with

0:37:40these distinctions with your daughter

0:37:42she characters my daughter is is really

0:37:45becoming a very profound cultural critic

0:37:48she has no idea what she's talking about

0:37:49your waiver of songs now no sauce is

0:37:52lots always challenging she must like a

0:37:54little bit of butter but not too much

0:37:55but when it comes to like she almost

0:37:57exactly always exactly gets japanese and

0:38:00chinese things confused she thinks anime

0:38:03is from China and she and she thinks

0:38:05that did you know the stuff we got from

0:38:06chinese restaurants Japanese oh IC uh

0:38:09the Marlins pretty I think she can hang

0:38:13with the fact that there are she's just

0:38:16learning about there being people from

0:38:18all around because she's grown up in a

0:38:20culture where there were kids of every

0:38:23kind of race ethnicity around her so she

0:38:25never she didn't understand that there

0:38:28was any difference between people just

0:38:29based on their color or she doesn't

0:38:32think that there is and but she does

0:38:36appreciate the people are speaking

0:38:37different languages right which he

0:38:39thinks is fascinating and she's just at

0:38:42the age where she's starting to kind of

0:38:43try and imitate them which you know what

0:38:45it's like

0:38:46well that's as do that are inside voice

0:38:49yeah that's fun that's fun to do but

0:38:51it's also an inside voice thing and the

0:38:53other day she was wearing she's wearing

0:38:55black pants and a black shirt and she

0:38:57was running around saying I'm a black

0:38:58girl I'm a black girl and it was like

0:39:02that's exactly what you are and yet

0:39:05that's not a thing that we can shout at

0:39:07the mall and so that you know we're

0:39:11right at the stage where I don't want to

0:39:12get into her little mind and start

0:39:14filling it with all of our adult human

0:39:16like anger and frustration and bullshit

0:39:19right now I totally that's part of the

0:39:21struggle

0:39:22yeah i think you mean alsace-lorraine I

0:39:24mean when we're in when we're in

0:39:26chinatown in their people speaking

0:39:27Chinese all around us and my

0:39:29four-year-old goes Jeong Jeong I go I I

0:39:35uh I don't want this I don't want to

0:39:38start right yet like stomping on your

0:39:43enthusiasm with our like intermediary

0:39:47problems you know I don't want to lean

0:39:49down and say say anything but I also

0:39:53don't want her to like you know the

0:39:56better their ninety-nine percent of the

0:39:58people in chinatown are going to give a

0:40:00shit and they're gonna think it's cute

0:40:01and funny but there's always gonna be

0:40:02somebody who has their up often since

0:40:06Apple it's on

0:40:09I did but it is also always fun to hear

0:40:11like if you asked anybody this is not

0:40:13something you would you would probably

0:40:14do it south by southwest or maybe you

0:40:16would do this XOXO but you can see that

0:40:18somebody like what is its what is a

0:40:19Vietnamese written language styling was

0:40:23German sound like or any of those you

0:40:25know you just imitate a Canadian person

0:40:26was fascinating though is to hear people

0:40:28in other countries doing what they think

0:40:30an American accent sounds like yeah and

0:40:32you realize like how how dominant uni

0:40:35and weird we sound well I've never told

0:40:38that story about the when i was at

0:40:41Gonzaga a good friend of mine had a

0:40:43roommate who was from Japan and who was

0:40:45learning English sort of in college and

0:40:49a bright guy na like a he was a great a

0:40:53great guy and ended up being a really

0:40:55good friend but when he first arrived he

0:40:59knew I think he knew more English than

0:41:02he was comfortable speaking but he did

0:41:04not really speak English and so after a

0:41:07while of a kind of hanging out and and

0:41:09introducing him to american beer and so

0:41:12forth

0:41:13one of us one of us said I think it was

0:41:18my friend Bob said when you are in japan

0:41:20and talking to Japanese friends how do

0:41:22you imitate Americans like what do

0:41:24Americans sound like and he was like

0:41:25what are you talking about was we had to

0:41:27explain like what it was and by way of

0:41:30explanation way we said you know when we

0:41:33imitate Japanese are like also chung

0:41:35talking or whatever right and he was he

0:41:39like you can see the light bulb go off

0:41:41and he was like all right I get it and

0:41:43he likes to do with his feet apart wide

0:41:47apart wide stance

0:41:48and he said I'm gonna bang bang bang

0:41:51bang and we were like oh and we all got

0:41:55really sad isn't exactly what you don't

0:41:58want to hear ya we slide back in our in

0:42:01our like Randy couches we're like a

0:42:03hamburger hamburger bang bang Chicago

0:42:05bank don't know that's the worst are we

0:42:09that bad

0:42:10oh no it's miserable uh ah so and I

0:42:15think that that's still true i think

0:42:16that in the majority of America the

0:42:18world were just hamburger hamburger bang

0:42:20bang

0:42:20I think you're probably right that you

0:42:22like 4s espagnole sauce

0:42:24oh my goodness i think this might be our

0:42:26our gravy so what happens in espagnole

0:42:28sauce

0:42:28alright let's look at this is all your

0:42:30ass but no way it's just look at this

0:42:33photo of of beef in this brown gravy

0:42:35with a side of like steak fries

0:42:37what am I doing here why am I sitting in

0:42:39this cold also sitting here looking at

0:42:41this

0:42:41your boys are freezing beef in brown

0:42:45gravy

0:42:46oh look at that went to importance last

0:42:48night oh good for you how to go went

0:42:51great i mean you know you go to morton's

0:42:54and and you basically like it's like

0:42:57you're stewing in Frank Sinatra right

0:42:59there's Frank Sinatra on the stereo and

0:43:01then they bring out a plate and it's

0:43:03basically like half of Frank Sinatra

0:43:04hosts fingers in my hair but it's an

0:43:10honor it's another Frank Sinatra he

0:43:13pissed on my fucking head and it wasn't

0:43:16on fucked my wife right on the bar you

0:43:21know that but should be frank yes I can

0:43:24if frank says I can sew in detail you

0:43:28want you had a big steak

0:43:29yeah a big stick it was good but you

0:43:31know i'm suffering a little bit of the

0:43:32consequences today because yeah

0:43:34basically I you know I hate a cat and

0:43:37now I'm i'm walking around it's like it

0:43:40was Halloween too and i haven't even

0:43:42eating sugar for a while and you know if

0:43:45you get anyone Eminem the cravings come

0:43:48back right and then you need to you need

0:43:50to go to the methadone clinic because

0:43:51just like oh my god I had some sugar and

0:43:54there's this giant bowl of reese's

0:43:55peanut butter cups and what can I did

0:43:58you know I'm trapped in the house all

0:44:00method for candy

0:44:01let's say hit rock bottom as a candy

0:44:04user like what do you think what kind of

0:44:06clinic would you go to what they give

0:44:07you

0:44:07splenda oh yeah i think they would just

0:44:10give you shitty candy they give you like

0:44:12licorice the but you know I i had an

0:44:16interesting conversation with my mom the

0:44:17other day where she said you used to it

0:44:21so you know you have to have talked

0:44:23about my shoebox full of money

0:44:25yeah but according to my mom i also had

0:44:28a giant bag of candy when people would

0:44:33want you know all the candy holidays

0:44:36which are kind of all the holidays

0:44:38except fourth of July they're all candy

0:44:39holidays and she said you would hoard

0:44:42your candy you wouldn't eat it and I was

0:44:46like that sounds like me she said but

0:44:48you would you kept this candy in a bag

0:44:51and you would bring neighborhood kids in

0:44:54you never take the candy bag out of the

0:44:56house you'd bring neighborhood kids in

0:44:58and you would give them a choice of

0:45:00their favorite candy out of the bag if

0:45:04they would blank like you would bribe

0:45:08and manipulate the neighborhood kids

0:45:10into doing what you wanted by promising

0:45:13them a selection from your candy horde

0:45:15and I was like what I sound I sound like

0:45:19a fucking diabolical monster child

0:45:22yeah you sound like a like a like a

0:45:23super billionaire and she was like

0:45:25that's right and so I have and so then

0:45:29it started to like memory started to

0:45:31flood back of my candy stash which was

0:45:36full of all the candy that I didn't

0:45:37actually person i mean i would eat all

0:45:39the fucking chocolate right away but

0:45:40then I had all the garbage candy the

0:45:43smarties and the licorice in that Mike

0:45:46and Ikes and all that stuff I didn't

0:45:49care about Necco wafers yeah like just

0:45:51shit candy that they give to people and

0:45:54I would just hoard it and then offer

0:45:57this offer these like beads two kids for

0:46:02their Manhattan islands

0:46:04oh yeah I shall require you to do a

0:46:06fancy dance for me

0:46:07that's right or like oh here's here's

0:46:10here nave here's the

0:46:12game here's the game today you are going

0:46:14to be a dog and i am going to be a dog

0:46:17killer and the kids would be like I

0:46:18don't want to be a dog again and I'd be

0:46:20like why don't you come in and have a

0:46:21Necco wafer and then maybe like okay and

0:46:26then be like that's right now

0:46:28now i'm going to sit on my throne and

0:46:29you sit here next to my throne and if

0:46:32anybody comes you attack so I that sub

0:46:36that makes me sound like a sicko from a

0:46:38young age that happened and then my mom

0:46:41confirmed that she thought I was a

0:46:43psycho that this was not a childlike

0:46:45behavior but she didn't somehow she

0:46:48didn't like getting a doctor or anything

0:46:50well not as far as i know not until

0:46:52later but you know I my daughter has

0:46:58what appears to be very little impulse

0:47:00control like when we go places where

0:47:03there's a buffet

0:47:04she just pieces in front of the buffet

0:47:06just trolling it hoping that someone

0:47:08will give her a shrimp you know and I'm

0:47:12like get away from the buffet you're

0:47:14freaking people out and she's like but

0:47:15all I could all the food and i'm like i

0:47:17see it you've already eaten enough food

0:47:19for 74 year olds today sheet a lot she

0:47:22just she did would never stop eating

0:47:24money if i put if I put a a trough of

0:47:28four-year-old kibble four-year-old child

0:47:31by purina right if I put it there in

0:47:34front of her room she would just you

0:47:35just forage all day she's fascinating my

0:47:38kid is not a big eater

0:47:40she's going straight she's a canon

0:47:42lawyer she's always looking for like

0:47:43what do I need to negotiate to get a

0:47:45little more TV a little bit more candy

0:47:46but she does not eat a lot of like

0:47:48normal food but your kindle elite like

0:47:50what kind of stuff like what if she had

0:47:51rather what she also just the just kid

0:47:55shit even macaroni Dogg hott Dogg's a

0:47:58grilled cheese sandwiches because school

0:48:01Betty she likes she likes something

0:48:03Betty White if my daughter you know we

0:48:06talked about i believe i've had this

0:48:07fantasy of somebody having a great

0:48:09machine in my house like I think if she

0:48:11could have you know some people have

0:48:12draft beer if she could have draft

0:48:14noodles

0:48:15I think she would just be pulling on

0:48:16glass noodles all the time I feel like I

0:48:18feel like that would be true of mine too

0:48:19and so but but she's trolling the buffet

0:48:23I don't know what she's looking for

0:48:25apes like what does she think is up

0:48:28there but she just want you know she's

0:48:31you know she gives the like the this

0:48:33poor street urchin eyeballs to all the

0:48:37adults walking by like no one has been

0:48:39using little look at the Kenzie and

0:48:41character gotta have more grills and and

0:48:45so people are like I mean I think we

0:48:47passed the point where any adult would

0:48:50feed a strange child from their hands

0:48:53right when they look around like where

0:48:55is this child's parent and why she

0:48:57trolling the buffet like so that's what

0:48:59I say to her like you're making people

0:49:00nervous

0:49:01come over here and sit with your family

0:49:02and she's just like as soon as soon as

0:49:05you're not watching her she's back over

0:49:07like like it like that sharks swimming

0:49:10in front of the a beach covered with

0:49:12bathers and I go I like what is that

0:49:17but she does not seem like somebody

0:49:19who's going to hoard candy in a bag in

0:49:22order to manipulate other kids and I

0:49:24can't tell whether that's an evolution

0:49:26of the family like a sort of John

0:49:28Syracuse's style and the way he looks at

0:49:30evolution right yeah just sort of like

0:49:31where people see a thing and then they

0:49:34they change the ball and evolve and

0:49:37evolution yes or whether it is where the

0:49:41weather it's a maladaptation and she's

0:49:42not going to be able to she's not going

0:49:44to learn how to leverage your your

0:49:49wealth into power over people who don't

0:49:53ask you talk too much about our bet you

0:49:55know that good kids are weird kids are

0:49:58super weird I it's hard to know what

0:50:00they're going to what they're going to

0:50:01connect with and like but the buffet i

0:50:03remember the buffet just being the stuff

0:50:06of fantasy to me when we got our first

0:50:07don't say Duff's and in Cincinnati was

0:50:11like three dollars me in like nineteen

0:50:14seventy six or seven dollars you it

0:50:15feels like it was three dollars for all

0:50:17all you was before they say all you care

0:50:20to eat they would say for

0:50:21all-you-can-eat buffet which really was

0:50:23more like some kind of a challenge oh

0:50:24yeah ours was called the royal fork and

0:50:27when you walked into the Royal for that

0:50:30sounds fancy it was it was it was there

0:50:32was a crown on top of the fork the Royal

0:50:34for you'd walk into the royal fork and

0:50:36you saw right away

0:50:37that there were like twenty four

0:50:39different kinds of jell-o salad and yeah

0:50:43all the macaroni and cheese you could

0:50:44eat all the chicken cutlets you could

0:50:46eat all the school Betty you could eat

0:50:48it wasn't it was an insane scene and

0:50:52then I can't imagine why the restaurant

0:50:53like that would go out of business but

0:50:55royal fork is no more i'm looking at

0:50:57some images here from a place that area

0:51:01became popular around the time I moved

0:51:02out of tallahassee but it's called china

0:51:04super buffet and there was this real

0:51:06trend in the mid to late night for

0:51:08example I think I told you the first

0:51:09time I ever ate sushi at least on a

0:51:12regular basis was at a buffet

0:51:14oh that's good sushi buffet sushi sigo

0:51:16you got lunch is eight dollars for

0:51:18all-you-can-eat sushi and a seminal role

0:51:20you know what's that Tom i Doan 27

0:51:24Olympians eat their food and rolls I

0:51:27think that racism and white wife beating

0:51:29it but they uh but no but that's that

0:51:31was well there was this trend though in

0:51:33the mid to late nineties where there's

0:51:34like more and more buffets taking over

0:51:37and pushing out the more mom-and-pop

0:51:39version of whatever was coming there so

0:51:42when this place open you should see this

0:51:43place looks like a a barn it's just

0:51:46giant so they got all that i'm looking

0:51:47here at the steam tables full of like

0:51:50lots of you know vegetable heavy dishes

0:51:53with recent but they also have this

0:51:54entire bar of just uniformly

0:51:56golden-brown american food is always

0:51:59liked all-you-can-eat tater tots all you

0:52:00can eat french fries all ukita it's not

0:52:03going to publix you know when you go to

0:52:04that the hot section where it's like

0:52:06just all uniformly golden brown

0:52:07oh I know I know and people just would

0:52:09just go fucking crazy in this place I

0:52:13was behind a guy the salad bar last week

0:52:14and I I swear to god you do not want to

0:52:18see an old person in the salad bar they

0:52:19put a hurtin on a salad bar

0:52:21I think a lot for a lot of people to go

0:52:23the salad bar that's going to be three

0:52:24meals I've got a pal uh who insists that

0:52:31we go to sizzler not because the stakes

0:52:36are good but because the salad bar they

0:52:38got AI got hot bar

0:52:39yeah right you can go you two soups you

0:52:42get a variety of breads yep

0:52:45now you gotta pump chilly there today

0:52:47well the children maybe the chili is in

0:52:49a is in a

0:52:51serving tub because I don't sound like

0:52:54it like a like a fancy lad but sizzlers

0:52:56just a little bit of my bar

0:52:59yeah I keep saying this I can't even

0:53:01find ironically john and i want to

0:53:02change the cheese dad what did your did

0:53:04your tastebuds the stop in 1987 I mean

0:53:08they stopped evolving like sizzler

0:53:10no I can't go to sizzler but but she

0:53:12insists and we go to sister and my god I

0:53:15can't do this this is that they don't

0:53:17even have they don't even have steak in

0:53:19Malibu chicken anymore i couldn't even

0:53:21find a malibu chicken salad with chicken

0:53:22what I got in what you never had you

0:53:25never want to sizzler got steak in

0:53:26Malibu chicken think so sounds pretty

0:53:28good

0:53:29malibu chicken is basically just a

0:53:31chicken breast with the LA cheese on it

0:53:34slice a ham on it and then some Swiss

0:53:36cheese on the top

0:53:37oh it's like a poor man's that cordon

0:53:39bleu the poor man's quarter blue you get

0:53:41it get too used to get two breasts to

0:53:45Malibu chickens and anna and some kind

0:53:47of six ounce or eight ounce steak that

0:53:50that absolutely fell off the back of a

0:53:52truck right i mean it's like they say

0:53:54they don't say us a choice they say they

0:53:58say like choice takes a picture picture

0:54:02of a guy in government uniform shrugging

0:54:04if I'm right it's like choice takes

0:54:06that's that's different than saying that

0:54:08this steak is USDA choice probably fine

0:54:11it's just saying that you chose them

0:54:13how about ok like a laundry bin of

0:54:17states

0:54:18let's take him it came out of a out of a

0:54:21processing plant no no we don't mean

0:54:23USDA choice we just means we picked out

0:54:25for you mean scissors choice i don't

0:54:27think they might even be called sisters

0:54:28sisters choice that's as good as us atty

0:54:32a choice but yeah so I so the other day

0:54:35i was down i was being I was being

0:54:37basically like a guy press-ganged into

0:54:42going into a sizzler and I was standing

0:54:44out front like like digging my heels

0:54:47into the cement going no i do not want

0:54:49again to go to a sizzler i'm done and

0:54:52across the street from the sizzler is an

0:54:54Outback Steakhouse and I said let's just

0:54:57look look-look-look-look we're here

0:54:59let's just try something new you know me

0:55:01I like try something new

0:55:02let's just go across the street to the

0:55:04out

0:55:04back steakhouse will do a comparison

0:55:06it's consistent it is consistent and so

0:55:09we slept across the street to the to the

0:55:13outback steakhouse we go in and

0:55:15immediately were being upset

0:55:17also the bloomin onion we weren't even

0:55:19seated at the table this and sat there

0:55:22and just sort of you know got up sold

0:55:24half a dozen times the weight the waiter

0:55:27was pretty bad at his job but you know

0:55:32it was a better class of stake than the

0:55:35sizzler so i had to say you know okay

0:55:37you go to places like a ponderosa on

0:55:40your kid we didn't have those in

0:55:41Anchorage we didn't I don't even know

0:55:43what a golden corral is that sounds like

0:55:45a royal forward but that's not a real

0:55:47fucking golden corral i think is like

0:55:49that well here's the thing like when I

0:55:50was a kid he had your York steak house

0:55:53you never heard her well and they were

0:55:55places that did like a cafeteria-style

0:55:57line and you could get a six-dollar

0:56:00steak or whatever or whatever you can

0:56:02get you know that the ground beef patty

0:56:04burger with steak fries and you get a

0:56:06little just like you get the putting in

0:56:08the jello out of the case just like you

0:56:09know like you would any cafeteria

0:56:11it's just that would be you know it's

0:56:12like slightly nicer than disgusting and

0:56:15like you would go there but then I think

0:56:17something happened i want to say around

0:56:19the time i was in high school probably

0:56:20where they suddenly i guess i don't know

0:56:23i'm not sure what market force would

0:56:25have caused this but they started adding

0:56:27more and more buffet elements i think it

0:56:29started

0:56:29obviously with the state with the with

0:56:31salad bar then they start you start

0:56:33having your soups you got your breads

0:56:35you get more made a carving station and

0:56:38I think that feels very luxe to people

0:56:39when you go to las vegas & like people

0:56:41are dying for this stuff

0:56:42did I ever tell you that I was a member

0:56:44of a group called the cotillion club

0:56:46when I was in high school was that what

0:56:49was that about dancing it was about

0:56:50dancing always think italian club you

0:56:52were in continuum club seventh grade

0:56:54yeah don't know about yours

0:56:56well so you know sometime around

0:56:59I don't know 9th or 10th grade the kids

0:57:02all started whispering about cotillion

0:57:05were you or were you not going to get

0:57:08invited to tell you and I had never

0:57:12heard of continued and I didn't know

0:57:13what to expect but it was like

0:57:17a group of adults chose which kids were

0:57:24the right kids wear the fancy kids

0:57:28you're kidding to invite to cotillion

0:57:30club which was a special set of dance

0:57:32and this is in the eighties

0:57:33oh yeah special set of dances that only

0:57:36the chosen kids could attend and the

0:57:41grown-ups were like the moms and dads

0:57:43and i think that the that the the

0:57:47grown-ups chose one another to like the

0:57:49the moms and dads from from the last set

0:57:53you know picked then the the right moms

0:57:56and dads to choose the right kids for

0:57:58the next generation and so buzzed all

0:58:03the kids are whispering who's going to

0:58:05get into cotillion club and it was not a

0:58:07thing that I knew about and my mom was

0:58:12absolutely not one of the right moms and

0:58:15i was very definitely not one of the

0:58:19right kids man

0:58:21and so cotillion club comes around and

0:58:23and and you know it's like the kids are

0:58:26getting tapped like you know tap on the

0:58:29shoulder it's like skullenbones with

0:58:31dance moves

0:58:31do you want are you know yet you are

0:58:34invited to tell you do you accept your

0:58:35you know you accept or refuse to make

0:58:39your choice right and all the kids like

0:58:40oh my god I'm in cotillion

0:58:42Wow and so the selection of cotillion

0:58:44happened and I was not invited because

0:58:49the moms who made that decision i think

0:58:52there were some dads to mom's dance had

0:58:56determined that I was the bad elements i

0:58:57was the wrong i was the wrong tone

0:59:01because my parents were divorced my

0:59:06mother was a single mother who lived in

0:59:09an inappropriately big house considering

0:59:13she was a single mother so that was

0:59:14suspicious something was wrong because

0:59:18no single mother should be prospering

0:59:21and this suspicion i think in the

0:59:24neighborhood was that my mom was there

0:59:25to steal all their husbands or something

0:59:26whatever it was that they were afraid of

0:59:28single women at the time single

0:59:30professional women so I didn't get

0:59:32invited and also I was a bad kid let's

0:59:33be honest here but my friends who all

0:59:38were in continuing club rebelled

0:59:41you know you never saw this before and I

0:59:43didn't think my friends like me that

0:59:45much but they did like me enough and

0:59:48they went to their moms and they they

0:59:50staged a protest not a not an actual

0:59:53protest because these are middle-class

0:59:55kids there's an insurrection an

0:59:57insurrection and they said if you don't

0:59:59invite

0:59:59invite

1:00:00John to cotillion club then we none of

1:00:01us will go to tell and it was a

1:00:03completely false threat they all were

1:00:05gonna go to tell you whether I went or

1:00:07not but it was for that week or whenever

1:00:09it was there it was there stand for

1:00:11justice that was there that was their

1:00:15march on Selma was that they were going

1:00:17to stop this this tragedy that I hadn't

1:00:20been invited to continue so a week later

1:00:25than everyone else my invitation to

1:00:27cotillion arrived and you could just and

1:00:29you just knew the moms or so mad because

1:00:34i was i would I was gonna ruin it and

1:00:38obviously like there were very few if

1:00:42know people of color invited to

1:00:44cotillion and it was but you know this

1:00:48was before anybody felt like before any

1:00:51white people notice that there was a

1:00:53problem with that

1:00:54and so they had these dances down at the

1:00:58Hilton Hotel where members of the

1:01:02cotillion club from all the schools

1:01:04would congregate and it was basically

1:01:06like these are the right kids from the

1:01:09whole town

1:01:10these are the these are the chosen kids

1:01:12from something from the thirties yes

1:01:15absolutely but this is Anchorage in the

1:01:17eighties la even by the eighties like I

1:01:19think about when I was in like advanced

1:01:21english they had to come up with a funny

1:01:23name for it so they could they did one

1:01:24called accelerator whatever there was so

1:01:26much concerned about steering so much

1:01:27concern about like you know even then

1:01:30exhaling kids to some kind of area where

1:01:32like they didn't feel special like yeah

1:01:34I can't believe this existed but this

1:01:36was this was extra school it had nothing

1:01:38to do with the school this was a group

1:01:40that was funded and run by parents who

1:01:43wanted the best for their kids

1:01:46ok and it was absolutely like savannah

1:01:49in the thirties but the you know there

1:01:52was this super class hierarchy and

1:01:56Anchorage at the time because a lot of

1:01:58the people that settled Alaska in the

1:02:00fifties and sixties came from a the

1:02:05Northeast in you know at

1:02:10and move directly to Alaskan like they

1:02:12didn't move west they moved from new

1:02:14haven to Anchorage little bit a little

1:02:16bit of French plantation

1:02:18yeah so they brought their old culture

1:02:20which didn't continue to evolve and then

1:02:23that was you know they tried to him

1:02:25implanted in Anchorage and the end it

1:02:29was successful

1:02:30so that was the first time I ever saw

1:02:32carving station because you would go to

1:02:34cotillion and there was like a dinner /

1:02:36where there would be a giant ham and a

1:02:39giant roast beef under a metal thing and

1:02:41I person is in a chef's hat who would

1:02:45carve the meat for you and I'm standing

1:02:49there in my like already wearing like a

1:02:52a a double-knit suit because i was like

1:02:55buck you and I mean I went in to

1:02:58cotillion knowing that I was persona non

1:03:01grata with the chaperones and so I

1:03:06really played it up just you know just

1:03:08like polyester suits and bad attitude

1:03:12and show you this is not something where

1:03:15your friends want them to interrupt your

1:03:16friends wanted you in there but this was

1:03:18not something was on your radar you did

1:03:20not see someone who like I i need to

1:03:22become part of the in scene with italian

1:03:24club

1:03:25well I always imagined that my role in

1:03:28every situation was the UH was somewhere

1:03:33between a Pluto and hotter right like I

1:03:38was Bluto I was Bluto when it was time

1:03:41to start a food fight that you can pass

1:03:42but I was honor when it was time to

1:03:45stage a protest at be at the fraternity

1:03:49sorority meeting so I was the one that

1:03:54shouted Gator when it was time to get

1:03:57her I was the one that that wore a toga

1:04:01when it was time to wear toca i started

1:04:04the the conga line you know you had a

1:04:06hearing with Dean wormer you need to put

1:04:07on a time that's right put on a tie with

1:04:09and you go to the meeting with dean

1:04:11where you say Dean wormer you're

1:04:12absolutely right we're going to try and

1:04:14straighten this up you know so I could i

1:04:15I would talk to adults i actually had a

1:04:18mother I had actually a mother looked me

1:04:21in the eye and say you are such a

1:04:22bullshit are

1:04:23test and you know I was 15 right and I

1:04:27took it as the highest compliment that

1:04:31you know that this mom was driven to

1:04:33such frustration the and that she would

1:04:36swear a team you know I get with such a

1:04:39violation of her personal code right

1:04:41that I had driven her to call me

1:04:43abortion Gino she hissed at me like such

1:04:46a bullshit artist I was like haha so I

1:04:50was at cotillion but I absolutely felt I

1:04:52belonged there but I belonged there as

1:04:54the person who was trying to ruin it for

1:04:56everyone else

1:04:58oh I'm sorry make it super fun for

1:05:02everyone but in the process ruin it for

1:05:05all time all right

1:05:08yeah it looks like your your foot looks

1:05:10like it's a cake that turns into the

1:05:12Deathmobile that's exactly what that's

1:05:14exactly it

1:05:14and so every time and you know and I

1:05:17there over the course of a couple of

1:05:19years I was I was expelled from

1:05:23cotillion and then was allowed back into

1:05:26cotillion because I you know I wrote a

1:05:29wrote a letter of apology or something

1:05:33to somebody it was all just a big you

1:05:35know first and then there was College

1:05:37cotillion which was when you got back

1:05:39from college when you returned to

1:05:41anchorage a christmas break there would

1:05:44be a big dance for all the cotillion

1:05:46kids to stand around and talk about

1:05:48their fancy colleges and I went to that

1:05:51and I actually really destroyed that

1:05:53dance

1:05:53oh yeah there was there was like there

1:05:56was projectile vomiting there was

1:05:57actually no it was actually spiking the

1:05:59punch bowl real life real life spiking

1:06:02the punch bowl as though it was nineteen

1:06:05fifty that's a that's the eighties in

1:06:08Anchorage what was the if you can

1:06:12remember or gas was the endgame for

1:06:14cotillion club in terms of what the moms

1:06:17with a replicating some kind of an East

1:06:19Coast thing that they felt like they

1:06:20lost were they trying to make something

1:06:21new

1:06:22was it a feeder program into some kind

1:06:24of larger social world

1:06:26yeah it was it was the best and the

1:06:28brightest they wanted the best wanted

1:06:31the best kids by their estimation to

1:06:34understand the bomb they had with

1:06:37another and begin the process of

1:06:39creating an old boy network in the youth

1:06:42where you would like you were meeting

1:06:46one another at a time when you know you

1:06:50had some of you had already decided to

1:06:53be doctors and some had decided to be

1:06:54lawyers but the ones who are going to

1:06:56run real estate empires and owned the

1:06:58bank didn't quite know what they were

1:07:01gonna do yet you know they knew they

1:07:02were going to go into business or

1:07:03whatever but once you once you were all

1:07:0630 years down the road and you'd go into

1:07:09get a loan to start your own newspaper

1:07:12whatever again the obtained Club

1:07:14handshake

1:07:15now you sit down at the in the in the

1:07:17bank presidents office and you already

1:07:18knew each other you know each other from

1:07:20all the way back to cotillion club like

1:07:23it's a it was its how old boy networks

1:07:25get created in places where because what

1:07:28we didn't have up there was what you do

1:07:30have back east which is like family

1:07:32names so you weren't if somebody walked

1:07:36into your bank presidents office than

1:07:37and you were just like oh I'm a

1:07:39Roosevelt yeah that Vanderbilt or

1:07:41something yeah right so you know what

1:07:43that means but in Alaska that was still

1:07:45very new and actually as a Roderick you

1:07:49know my uncle had been mayor I was I've

1:07:53told you that story right where I was

1:07:54standing at some party and some adult

1:07:56walks up with this other kid my age some

1:07:59dopey looking kid and they're like I

1:08:02thought you two should meet both of your

1:08:05a you know like your uncle was mayor

1:08:09john and dopey kid here his is a his dad

1:08:12was governor and you know you guys

1:08:14should know each other and the dopey kid

1:08:16and i SAT and looked at each other like

1:08:17huh

1:08:18here there that's you there's me but

1:08:21that the idea was like how you guys are

1:08:23both part of political dynasties you

1:08:25should be so it's so weird if you knew

1:08:28each other then that would be like good

1:08:30somewhere down the line i think it's i

1:08:33think it's still goes on even as we

1:08:37would all kind of want to shun that or

1:08:40act like it doesn't exist anymore i

1:08:42think it's it still goes on it's just

1:08:44it's so coded now ms has so many levels

1:08:47to it of like seeming good intent

1:08:50in but I mean down to like I remember I

1:08:55remember first hearing some some friends

1:08:57of mine lives in New York the kids

1:08:59probably three or four years older than

1:09:00ours and it's woman whose you know clamp

1:09:02she's very prominent in the tech world

1:09:06and basically the floor first hearing

1:09:09the phrase feeder preschool which is to

1:09:13this day it just makes me shudder at

1:09:15some park slope shit right there he

1:09:17absolutely think that but well I think

1:09:19they might leave Manhattan my night

1:09:20people i'm not sure but in any case but

1:09:22like now I mean when I first heard that

1:09:24I was like you've got to be kidding me

1:09:25when your feet are school I think of

1:09:27that is an undergraduate program that

1:09:29tends to get certain kinds of candidates

1:09:31whether its medical or business or

1:09:33whatever tends to get them into like an

1:09:34Ivy League school it's a feeder school

1:09:36and I you know what I won't even accept

1:09:37that there are prep schools that are

1:09:39feeder schools for undergrad programs

1:09:41like that all makes sense in some kind

1:09:43of Catcher in the Rye way to me but like

1:09:45the idea of a feeder preschool that your

1:09:47three-year-old has to be going to the

1:09:49right school in order to get into the

1:09:51right elementary school

1:09:52it's completely bananas we applied to

1:09:55five free schools in san francisco and

1:09:58we got into one

1:09:59oh my god yeah and I mean you know they

1:10:02weren't like we're not talking like prep

1:10:03schools were talking fancy but I mean

1:10:05you know they cost money and stuff

1:10:06yeah but there are three schools there

1:10:08preschools the preschool near our house

1:10:10the montessori school near our house has

1:10:11a required five-day-a-week attendances

1:10:13fifteen hundred dollars a month

1:10:15yeah yeah well I hear this from my new

1:10:17york friends all the time like the

1:10:20reason that a lot of them don't bring

1:10:21their kids on the joco Cruz anymore is

1:10:24because they cannot afford to miss a

1:10:28week of grade school because if they if

1:10:32their attendance is bad

1:10:36by which I mean miss one week of school

1:10:38their attendance is that bad they won't

1:10:40get into the right junior high and I'm

1:10:43just like all of the you you should just

1:10:45take your kids out of school if those

1:10:47are the rules

1:10:48there's a part of that I have to say I'm

1:10:50of two minds is a part of that makes

1:10:51absolute sense to me and then a much

1:10:53larger part of that is so fucking

1:10:55bananas I can't even believe it

1:10:56especially eve even in elementary school

1:10:59you know i mean i understand that we

1:11:00don't want my kid missing school I I

1:11:01don't like her to be sick

1:11:03misc stuff because it's all cumulative

1:11:05especially with common core stuff like

1:11:06you really you need to know the stuff to

1:11:08know this stuff and you've got to be

1:11:09there and you've got to keep you know

1:11:10you lose momentum when you miss those

1:11:12days but the idea that like a just I

1:11:15don't know there's something about that

1:11:16that is really dispiriting to me

1:11:18especially given how many people I know

1:11:20who you know can manage to like make a

1:11:23living and live in this atrocious city

1:11:25and like how much time and energy it

1:11:28takes to be like the parent of somebody

1:11:31in that system and then like why

1:11:33obviously the extension that being like

1:11:34holy shit what about the kids you don't

1:11:36have that like who is like fighting for

1:11:38them to even get like a morsel it's

1:11:41insane to me well you know one thing we

1:11:43haven't talked about on this program is

1:11:45the biz the billionaire party that we

1:11:46went to

1:11:47oh yeah do you feel comfortable talking

1:11:50about the billionaire party I'm you know

1:11:52that's a big family type that here on my

1:11:56computer

1:11:56um I we could talk about that at some

1:11:59point

1:12:00yeah I mean we went to a party where

1:12:02Elon Musk was there I didn't see him you

1:12:05know what I heard he was there is a lot

1:12:07of that lot a lot of nice like nice

1:12:09people they're very very nice people but

1:12:11a lot of people in their forties early

1:12:13forties yeah who are also billionaires

1:12:17yeah 3 con club and they're all in there

1:12:20all ended up at a party together

1:12:22yeah if a bomb had gone off there would

1:12:25be no internet today where there would

1:12:27be no monetization even know how to turn

1:12:29it back on right there be like well the

1:12:31guy that the guy that turns on the

1:12:33internet on immunization yeah I got it

1:12:35turns on the internet every morning is

1:12:37but he died in the party bomb

1:12:39how are we gonna are we gonna make money

1:12:41off of this now

1:12:43mm um you know I we can talk about that

1:12:46I you mentioned last week which was a

1:12:50very interesting episode of this program

1:12:51after we finished talking

1:12:54well you did hinted during the program

1:12:56that it was big week for you in more

1:12:58than one way the story that you told

1:12:59last week about getting ninety-four

1:13:01percent of your home is back

1:13:02uh was certainly a big week but i was

1:13:05curious if you wanted to talk about the

1:13:06other thing that you mentioned but you

1:13:08could save for another show is it no

1:13:10will you die but I wouldn't what was I

1:13:12talking about uh you're making a

1:13:16down payment alright oh yes i will talk

1:13:22about it so we can table the

1:13:24billionaire's for now

1:13:25yeah I know you don't want to talk about

1:13:26the boat no you didn't i got a whole

1:13:28stack to think the thing about the

1:13:30billionaire's I know that you run into

1:13:31him at the supermarket and you have to

1:13:33be like no way they have a special

1:13:35billionaire

1:13:36hey Jim hey Tony and they're like oh

1:13:40yeah I heard your program we talk about

1:13:41the billionaire party know what first

1:13:43rule of billionaire party right right i

1:13:47did show additional text conversation in

1:13:49my what was she when you were with me

1:13:52too I bet I can get your dad's voice but

1:13:54I met a very nice man today named evan

1:13:56he says that he knows you from from

1:13:58something that you worked on a long to

1:14:00become like crap but that's you know

1:14:03yeah very nice man so what so why how he

1:14:08talked about this

1:14:09well yet happening yeah so the other day

1:14:10I went I was so a couple of weeks ago I

1:14:13was driving up to bellingham and my

1:14:16daughter's mother had to pick up some

1:14:18apologies i had to come up there and get

1:14:21ya get a double filson bag full of

1:14:23apologies and bring it back to Seattle

1:14:25make it a nicer place

1:14:26yeah it and so I'm driving up there and

1:14:31my daughter's mother points and yells

1:14:33were in Marysville Washington she points

1:14:36and yells off to the side of freeway and

1:14:37she goes GMC RV and I looked over and it

1:14:41sold an RV dealer and there are 85 rvs

1:14:45all of them that look like I mean

1:14:47gigantic houses on wheels and then right

1:14:51in the middle there's like it's like a

1:14:52broken tooth there's this tiny little

1:14:55thing and it's a GMC RV and so I make

1:15:01make a mental note of it and when we

1:15:03drive back from bellingham we drive past

1:15:05it again and we both look at it go bad

1:15:07is a GMC RV and it's sitting on an RV

1:15:09lot and so we go home we don't stop and

1:15:14a and after a couple of days I I i asked

1:15:19my daughter's mother why don't you call

1:15:22that dealership and see what the what

1:15:24the story is with the GMC RV

1:15:26maybe a little bit of an organization

1:15:27here of course just to explain that when

1:15:30you say GM cr-v a lot of people just

1:15:31gonna hear some letters

1:15:32yeah James Murphy we had a fairly

1:15:34detailed discussion about the GMC RV

1:15:37yeah they're on a past episode we talked

1:15:40about this at length and what a cherry

1:15:42bit of kit this thing that's right

1:15:44longtime listeners will know what we're

1:15:45talking about here and in fact I've told

1:15:47you before right that the GMC RV episode

1:15:50precipitated an email from a guy who

1:15:54said hey I loved that show

1:15:56longtime listener the program I also

1:15:58happen to be President of the Northwest

1:16:01gmcr V club and also the grandson of the

1:16:07guy mr. birch who helped design the GMC

1:16:11RV and one of them is called a birch

1:16:13haven one of the designs is called the

1:16:15purchase even named after my grandfather

1:16:17that's so much cooler than cotillion

1:16:18club it's very bizarre and and you know

1:16:20we we do this all the time on this

1:16:22program we talk about things and then

1:16:23all of a sudden the other day what a

1:16:25senior editor at The New York Times

1:16:27retweeted our program and said you guys

1:16:29have gotta listen to this episode it's

1:16:32just like wow that's cool but he seems

1:16:34like a gorgeous gorgeous nineteen

1:16:36seventies RV it's kind of like a

1:16:39Superman Superman i think is that how he

1:16:41describes the time it's it's it's real

1:16:42big your arm but it's not it's not

1:16:45Winnebago big not win a big okay it's

1:16:47like a big van you can you drive around

1:16:49town but it's but it's a it's got a bed

1:16:51in the back and a bathroom and a kitchen

1:16:53and couch and so far anyway so we we we

1:16:57call up to the dealer and the dealer

1:17:00says yeah we got this thing here we

1:17:01don't know anything about it and frankly

1:17:03we don't want to know anything about it

1:17:05we're in the market where were you know

1:17:06we're in the business of selling these

1:17:08$250,000 Winnebagos and this

1:17:11some guy came in and traded it in on a

1:17:13new Winnebago and it's sitting there and

1:17:16and it's thirteen thousand dollars and

1:17:19so you know what get to take it or don't

1:17:23we don't give a sh 0

1:17:24and we were like well that is a that's

1:17:28not that's not that is not out of reach

1:17:31yeah it's a fairly reasonable price for

1:17:33these the really nice ones can be 50 or

1:17:3630 but you know 13,000 is right in the

1:17:40sort of low end of normal or low end of

1:17:42like this one is is a in good condition

1:17:47you know etc so eventually one day i say

1:17:50i'm just going to go up there

1:17:52marysville isn't close to seattle but

1:17:55it's you know close enough and I'm not

1:17:57doing anything I'm just gonna drive up

1:17:58there and see what see what's what

1:18:00so I Drive up and I go and look at it

1:18:02and it seems like you know the carpet

1:18:08was changed its now sort of a tease

1:18:10hotel lobby carpet there some things

1:18:13have been changed about it but also the

1:18:16the previous owners had done a lot of

1:18:18modifications that improved the vehicle

1:18:20and everyone in the subculture refers to

1:18:23them as coaches like our coach and yeah

1:18:26what condition is your coach and I'm

1:18:27sort of like a coach is one of those

1:18:29words I don't want to say don't say

1:18:31coach I think you will have probably

1:18:34eventually I was like me how was it was

1:18:36the interior like well they've taken it

1:18:38so they changed the shag carpet was gone

1:18:41and the original upholstery was gone and

1:18:42it had been reupholstered in a sort of

1:18:44color that I can only describe as a

1:18:46black berry smoothie which is very

1:18:49divisive certain people see it and

1:18:51they're like that like what like what

1:18:52it's like a used car lot waiting room

1:18:54kind of like like Industrial carpet

1:18:56no no it's it's that the carpet on the

1:18:59floor has yeah like little emblems

1:19:01little fleur de lys on it that are sort

1:19:03of like I don't know what you're

1:19:04thinking but the upholstery is great

1:19:06plush purple fabric i personally think

1:19:13it's hilarious and great other people in

1:19:15my clan think it is hideous but not not

1:19:18the best taste but you know to each his

1:19:21own

1:19:21how many of these you gonna come across

1:19:23that's right there aren't a whole lot of

1:19:24them although there is a secondary

1:19:25market for them but you know not be as

1:19:27John this is a great thing to have a

1:19:29hobby about so I'm sitting I'm sitting

1:19:31in this RV I'm talking to the salesman

1:19:33whose name is Todd with 1d Todd in 1d

1:19:36that

1:19:36fly and Todd on his business card has

1:19:39photograph of himself with a pair of

1:19:41oakley sunglasses perched on top of his

1:19:43head doesn't happen by accident but no

1:19:46it doesn't he was like right there's the

1:19:48picture of me I want on my business card

1:19:51but it turns out i really like todd todd

1:19:53is like extremely likeable he is a

1:19:56salesman and he selling but he's also a

1:19:59good guy like I just instinctively like

1:20:01Todd he probably has jet skied sure but

1:20:08I don't hold that against such as part

1:20:10of his culture that's right so stop are

1:20:13sitting there I'm like well time I mean

1:20:15what about this what about that he's

1:20:16like frankly uh uh the thing is as is i

1:20:22don't want to know about it and nobody

1:20:26here does so if you want to buy it if

1:20:28you don't don't ask any questions

1:20:30because the if you flip the switch and

1:20:32it goes on then you know it works if you

1:20:34flip the switch and it doesn't go on you

1:20:35can presume that read to you because to

1:20:37me that that that reads as primarily

1:20:39first a tactic that he might use for

1:20:41anything on the lot but then secondarily

1:20:42it reads as there's something that's

1:20:44gonna blow up yeah exactly both things

1:20:46like there's an F there's an axial

1:20:48that's going to go as soon as your off

1:20:49the lot both things seem true and so I

1:20:53thought about it some more and I and and

1:20:55then I called my friend Greg birch and I

1:20:59said hey why want somebody to go look at

1:21:01this with me do you have anybody in your

1:21:04uh rolodex and he was like let me call

1:21:06you back and then immediately texted me

1:21:08and said yeah there's a guy that lives

1:21:11up there who's a member of our club and

1:21:13he will come look at it with you

1:21:15that's so cool that's why you have an RV

1:21:17club

1:21:18yes so I show up at the thing and this

1:21:22man arrives and he's about 70 years old

1:21:24and he is wearing suspenders clip-on

1:21:28suspenders holding up his jeans like it

1:21:30so far and he's got great hair and he's

1:21:32a you know he's a heavyset guy

1:21:35and he used to work at Boeing which is I

1:21:38think true of every single GMC RV owner

1:21:41in the northwest and he walks up and he

1:21:46just starts spinning some knowledge and

1:21:50he walks around he's like oh I see

1:21:52they've upgraded the the grommets looks

1:21:54like they changed that nipple out for a

1:21:56stainless nipple

1:21:58oh and look at here and they've got that

1:22:00they they added the edit the the

1:22:02secondary boost boost the battery

1:22:05spinner and it's hot it's hot there well

1:22:07this guy's dunno todd has got no Todd

1:22:10doesn't give a shit Todd is off 750,000

1:22:12Winnebagos ok and it's just me and the

1:22:14guy so this was probably a trade-in I

1:22:17was absolutely a trade ok and so a so

1:22:20the guy whose name is Tom which goes

1:22:24very well Todd a new twins named Tommy

1:22:26top Tom and Todd tom is like he's

1:22:29pulling up the carpet is looking in the

1:22:31he's looking in the the back he's

1:22:33fiddling with the front he's he's down

1:22:36he's like you know he's an old man and

1:22:39he's down on the ground looking

1:22:40underneath it and he pronounces that he

1:22:44thinks the coaches in great condition

1:22:46see I'm already calling our coach is

1:22:48like this is a number one coach and he

1:22:53loves the purple upholstery and so he

1:22:57gives it the because of the Bill of good

1:22:59health and I'm like I'm feeling stronger

1:23:02and stronger about this all the time as

1:23:03Tom I mean part of the first of all must

1:23:05be kind of fun for Tom to get to do that

1:23:07super fun that mean that that's good for

1:23:09everybody and thank god bless time for

1:23:10coming but also i'll bet you Tom in a

1:23:12heartbeat would call your attention to

1:23:14something bunkers all he absolutely

1:23:16would and he had that wheel should not

1:23:18move like that she had the expertise to

1:23:20say like to see I mean he knew some deep

1:23:23science on it and he said some

1:23:25interesting things he was like listen

1:23:26every RV leaks i'm sure this one leaks

1:23:29they all leak because they're enormous

1:23:32tubes that are subject to torque and

1:23:38torsion and tour she owned

1:23:41oh there's a lot of parts to move they

1:23:44move and they twist and they ski to

1:23:46shake a little bit shake

1:23:48and so eventually they're all going to

1:23:50leak and so don't be worried about leaks

1:23:52you have to fix leaks but it's just it's

1:23:54part of owning an RV if you want to do

1:23:56things like owning it and it's like it's

1:23:57like me a boner without having a fucking

1:23:59boat like there's gonna be money and

1:24:01time you put into this but you're not

1:24:02living on it you're not living on its

1:24:04not going to sink right right so so then

1:24:09I'm talking to go find Todd and I'm like

1:24:13so what are we going to do with this

1:24:14like kid here it is there

1:24:16I think I probably want it and Todd too

1:24:21to his credit says look when i say i

1:24:26don't care about this thing i'm serious

1:24:28i don't care about it and so frankly if

1:24:31you are very odd cells that

1:24:34yeah he's great he's making your dad's

1:24:36got something here is obviously an

1:24:37enthusiast for this kind of fairly rare

1:24:39vehicle he's like fucking I don't care

1:24:41yep so he says look if you offer me a

1:24:43thousand dollars right now i'll take

1:24:45what i was like really ok i'll buy

1:24:48prayed thousand dollars he was like

1:24:49great sold

1:24:50holy shit John and I said alright well

1:24:53that was the best that was the easiest

1:24:55negotiation I ever did and so so Todd

1:25:01says you want to try and get a loan for

1:25:04it and I was like yeah as a matter of

1:25:06fact I do and so we went we went through

1:25:08all this rigmarole with the banks and

1:25:11the bank came back and said this person

1:25:14is self-employed and that right there is

1:25:18a reason it reject him but also some

1:25:23years he makes this amount of money and

1:25:25some years he makes that amount of money

1:25:27and that is too much of a variation

1:25:30probably not even sure which graph to

1:25:32use yeah they put all my information

1:25:34into the into the Machine and machine

1:25:37spit out a giant ? leave club and it

1:25:40started to smoke and what I discovered

1:25:42was I my credit rating is 830 and Todd

1:25:46was like for the 830 credit rating you

1:25:48should be able to just you should be

1:25:49able to buy a plane airplane but then I

1:25:53brought my tax returns because they

1:25:55insisted because I'm self-employed right

1:25:57and then the tax returns really confuse

1:25:59them

1:25:59and they were like you what now

1:26:02different forms you made up that are

1:26:04written longhand yes I'm just like don't

1:26:06know this is basically this is this is

1:26:09super a normal and they're like this is

1:26:12not normal you're your income is as are

1:26:16incomprehensible to us we are a bank and

1:26:19so they rejected me for a car loan for

1:26:22eight thousand dollars and I was

1:26:24offended drivers i was i was mad and

1:26:31then I thought about it for a while and

1:26:33I was like oh and I could just go ahead

1:26:34and buy it i was like i could write a

1:26:37check i don't have to get a bank loan

1:26:39that was just something fun that I was

1:26:41gonna do get a get a loan for the fun of

1:26:43it let that put a bad taste in your

1:26:44mouth you get your getting a coach

1:26:46yeah so I went in and I was like here

1:26:47Todd i'll buy and he was like oh alright

1:26:50well get out of here then and so I fired

1:26:52it up and I drove it off the lot and I

1:26:54drove home

1:26:56I can't believe it yeah I'm so fucking

1:27:00excited to see this thing

1:27:01well but here's the beers the rub so i

1:27:03got it home and parked in my front yard

1:27:05and then I you know when you know you've

1:27:08really moved into the neighborhood

1:27:09yeah when I went to bed and they're

1:27:11checking i woke up the next morning I

1:27:13walked out and I was like oh shit i have

1:27:16become a guy with like an old shitty

1:27:20decrepid motor home in his yard

1:27:23you got a jimmy carter era RV coach in

1:27:26your yard hope this pre Jimmy Carter

1:27:28this is 75 this is a as afford this was

1:27:31you know for RV yeah this is a this is a

1:27:34gerald r ford era recreational vehicle

1:27:37John um and so it hadn't thought about

1:27:40that you won't fit your part right well

1:27:42there's been some talk about whether it

1:27:44would fit in the barn I don't think it

1:27:45will I would have to move all the

1:27:46vestments all the non-working vestments

1:27:48out of the barn to fit in minot you know

1:27:51my like how am I hashed up RV so you

1:27:54have problem right now is ever so now

1:27:57I'm like shifting into high gear here

1:28:00like I'd better join this RV enthusiasts

1:28:03club i had better oh and the other thing

1:28:06is I'm time between about it and I get a

1:28:10i get a tweet from this guy I

1:28:13Isaac Marion who is a an author who has

1:28:16written some popular books about zombies

1:28:19and one of them was made into a movie

1:28:21called where the zombie fella but it was

1:28:24like a love story with the zombie like a

1:28:26young good-looking zombie who falls in

1:28:28love with a girl or something that will

1:28:30occupy like twilight type thing yeah but

1:28:32with zombies and it's sure it's funny

1:28:34it's like a like a romantic comedy but

1:28:36like one of the people is dead

1:28:38nice and so Isaac Marion is a friend of

1:28:41mine on Twitter and a very nice man and

1:28:43he sends me a tweet he's like I own one

1:28:46of those and i was like you what I mean

1:28:49he's like a young handsome successful

1:28:51office very good-looking guy John yeah

1:28:53he's nice nice looking man and a very

1:28:54nice man smart smart author author smart

1:28:58huh

1:28:59he says yeah I used to live in it in

1:29:01ballard before the cops got wise to me

1:29:04and they made me stop live in it but I

1:29:07love my GMC RV and I was like Isaac you

1:29:09got to come up and see this RV with me

1:29:10so he did he got in my truck I want

1:29:13picked him up at a cafe we drove up

1:29:14looked at the RV was like oh this is

1:29:16amazing so that we honestly voice is an

1:29:19estimation of it he feel like it was a

1:29:21good buy

1:29:21also he has a small one there's

1:29:24agreement to sign I got the big one all

1:29:26to look at the schematic right now

1:29:28yeah so he's like out two rooms it's got

1:29:31yeah it's it's it's his bits as big as a

1:29:33it's as big as a house on small it's so

1:29:35cool

1:29:36so anyway so Isaac gives me the clean

1:29:39bill of health and I so now I'm in a

1:29:43position basically we're not only do i

1:29:44have to join this subculture fast and

1:29:46figure it out but also i feel like i'm

1:29:49going to start a subculture I feel like

1:29:51it's time for young people to start

1:29:55buying rvs in general and GMC rvs in

1:29:59particular this is not something for

1:30:01retirees John you're telling people who

1:30:02are there still full of them and vigor

1:30:04people who are still full of life it's

1:30:06time to go out and buy yourself a purple

1:30:07RV get a purple RV drive it down to Big

1:30:10Sur and get your picture in Sunset

1:30:13magazine like this is happening this is

1:30:16a new subculture and it's going to be

1:30:18like it's the new motorcycle gang for

1:30:20four people in their thirties and

1:30:22forties and fifties name of a little

1:30:24slower and sometimes maybe like to have

1:30:25a little now

1:30:26yeah he got a juicer on board in case

1:30:28you want some juice that's nice too

1:30:29fresh juice you know a jen that you wake

1:30:32up in the morning your gear right there

1:30:33Big Sur you got a fresh glass of juice

1:30:35cooking surface

1:30:37I'm telling you there's a whole lot

1:30:38there's a whole there's a refrigerator

1:30:39there's a lot of animals my god it's and

1:30:42it's got all these little like the the

1:30:44couch turns into a bump I want that I

1:30:46love stuff that turns into stuff and get

1:30:47a little things with doors you can put

1:30:49stuff in

1:30:49yep little things with doors little

1:30:50things that turn into other things just

1:30:52so fucking cool so it's got and it's got

1:30:55a its got one of those old the

1:30:57Oldsmobile 455 motors which are like

1:31:01it's got up there's a whole culture

1:31:03people that just care about that motor

1:31:04you can pull Todd's jetski if he had to

1:31:06absolutely I could you know I'm I mean I

1:31:09swear to you Gary is across the street

1:31:11going

1:31:11why does that guy get everything is

1:31:15looking at jobs it's just like oh my god

1:31:18i'm living in my ford van and he's you

1:31:20just unintentionally gave Gary the

1:31:23biggest fuck you in history of

1:31:24everything first plate as he doesn't

1:31:26remember that you've met before right

1:31:28he's living in a nice living in a van

1:31:29screaming about obama on his phone into

1:31:31his lady in the middle of the night

1:31:32yeah and then you pull up with like the

1:31:34sweetest right can you pull it into your

1:31:36yard you know that's what a fuck you

1:31:38poor Gary well the whole neighborhood

1:31:40now has to be like okay this is either a

1:31:43harbinger of of of like a new era where

1:31:47all of a sudden his yard is gonna fill

1:31:48up with junk cars but it only takes one

1:31:51yeah or he's doing something that the

1:31:54rest of us you know like here we he's

1:31:57our guru we need to follow him or on

1:32:00meth lab or meth lab right but you know

1:32:03eight thousand dollars you almost

1:32:04couldn't afford not to buy it I i was

1:32:08gonna guess I don't know how collectible

1:32:09these things are imagine they need a

1:32:11fair amount of maintenance and upkeep it

1:32:13yeah i was gonna just starting at 25

1:32:15yeah so and I think you know you can fix

1:32:17them up so now I'm now i'm in this whole

1:32:20mode where it's like well I'm gonna fix

1:32:22this thing up

1:32:23I would kind of like to return it to

1:32:26era-appropriate finishes by which i mean

1:32:31like sheepdog shag carpet

1:32:35uh-huh in burnt umber or what I'm

1:32:38looking at as a real it's real over a

1:32:40overbearing kind of green pattern and

1:32:42economic Otto exactly there's a lot of

1:32:43paisley yeah you keep yourself bunk beds

1:32:46yes but my like God bunk beds bunk beds

1:32:50and a queen size bed in the back and the

1:32:52AMIA the little uh little dinette set

1:32:55also turns into a full-size bed you put

1:32:5766 people in there if there are six

1:33:00people that are in love with each other

1:33:01you know what was the seventies you

1:33:04gotta be you gotta be cuddling it's a

1:33:06little bit of a key party scene and now

1:33:08some tarps and that I think about the

1:33:09the key party aspect of it I feel like

1:33:11what if you get three GMC rvs in any one

1:33:14place there's going to be wife-swapping

1:33:15god oh my god i would just I want to see

1:33:24this thing just just pulled up to my

1:33:26house someday wasn't much can be driving

1:33:28that far apart again that's what it's

1:33:30meant for mean it really like this make

1:33:32it you think

1:33:33yeah i'm gonna go the first thing I'm

1:33:34gonna do is go through all the systems

1:33:36and make sure that mechanically it is

1:33:39ready to its only 50,000 miles on like

1:33:41mechanically I'm getting this was

1:33:44sitting somewhere for a long time oh

1:33:45yeah i was sitting in some guys barn

1:33:48probably somebody somebody had it and

1:33:49maybe it had something worth fixing died

1:33:51and another for 20-30 years became old

1:33:54and then there is so yeah i'm gonna i'm

1:33:58i'm preparing it to be my land yacht I'm

1:34:00gonna take it up and down the coast all

1:34:02the time and and it's gonna be my gonna

1:34:06be my new scene is gonna be my weekend

1:34:07thing

1:34:08oh this is you know what buddy I gotta

1:34:11tell you I think this is a good move i

1:34:12think it's a healthy move and I think

1:34:14it's a way to potentially channel a lot

1:34:18of your occupations no no pseudo

1:34:24distractions concerns and relative

1:34:27primitive gestures into one coach the

1:34:31thing I'm the only thing I'm worried

1:34:32about is that I just gave myself and i

1:34:37all-consuming leisure activity that I

1:34:39wasn't you know I wasn't sitting around

1:34:43like I don't have enough time for I have

1:34:47too much time and I'd like to burn

1:34:48something a diet time and money that i

1:34:51want to burn in a new leisure activity

1:34:52it's very much like getting a boat it's

1:34:55just a dance better than about yes

1:34:57priming boats boats ridonkulous

1:34:59expensive to keep up

1:35:00yeah and with this I mean especially if

1:35:02you're not doing too many might want to

1:35:03buy the nice triple-a is there some kind

1:35:05of super triple-a you can get there is i

1:35:07already have it

1:35:08oh yeah I got a nice trip away a long

1:35:10time ago because I because what I didn't

1:35:13want was to call triple-a and have them

1:35:15tell me something to help me tell me

1:35:17that they look no excuses like yeah I

1:35:20was just like I'm gonna get the biggest

1:35:21triple-a so that when i call you from

1:35:24somewhere out in the boonies you come

1:35:26without giving me a bunch of rigmarole

1:35:27doesn't take too many uses of that to

1:35:30really pay for itself

1:35:31oh it's an amazing service even though

1:35:33even though as we've said well as we've

1:35:36said before at least fifty percent of

1:35:38the time you call triple-a you get

1:35:40somebody who doesn't even know like they

1:35:43probably their mom times their shoes in

1:35:45the morning know someone who were very

1:35:46confusing and 1.8 basically became a

1:35:50proxy for going to the mechanic for me

1:35:52oh yeah to wear a circa nineteen

1:35:54eighty-nine I got the letter because you

1:35:57can get the letter from home

1:35:58what's the letter you get the ladder and

1:36:00triple-a says hey look you're you're

1:36:02overdoing it overdoing it like the week

1:36:04that we can't be doing this twice a

1:36:05month for you

1:36:06yeah right and and that and I know that

1:36:09too and the other day I was I the GMC RV

1:36:12because it had been sitting for a long

1:36:14time its battery wouldn't hold a charge

1:36:16so i went down to the autozone and i

1:36:18bought a hot new battery and and my

1:36:22family was like oh why don't you just

1:36:24call triple-a get them to come and and I

1:36:26was like because i'm saving up and you

1:36:29get to keep your powder dry and saving

1:36:31up my triple-a calls because i just

1:36:32bought a 40 year old RV it's couch i

1:36:37have 40 year old coach and when i call

1:36:39triple-a it's going to be serious right

1:36:41a bigger bigger bigger touchback

1:36:44I'm gonna be way way out somewhere

1:36:46I'm gonna need I'm gonna need some help

1:36:48on this special higher class like super

1:36:52secret black card version triple-a for

1:36:54people who have a coach we pay like 35

1:36:56times as much but they will actually

1:36:58like to you to it to a sex depends on

1:37:00like what's available where you are in

1:37:02death valley your options might be kind

1:37:03of limited i actually have that black

1:37:06card RV motorcycle

1:37:10okay i know i officially believe you

1:37:12didn't know existed

1:37:13yep RV motorcycle where they'll pick up

1:37:17a motorcycle which is a certain kind of

1:37:18weird knowing where they need a flatbed

1:37:21and then they will also to an RV so I'm

1:37:23expecting that when i finally call

1:37:25triple-a i will have to hitchhike to a

1:37:28phone booth to get them on the phone

1:37:30because there won't be cell service and

1:37:33i'm going to say listen I know it's time

1:37:35that's how you know open the provisions

1:37:37like this it i'm at mile poor milepost

1:37:394,000 on the and on UFO highway and I

1:37:47need anything really really really big

1:37:48talker huh i certainly think we could

1:37:50just give you a push nope don't think

1:37:52that's gonna work that was going to push

1:37:53we get the fuck you level triple-a that

1:37:55we've got this will give you a push if

1:37:56you had that I know they want to give

1:37:59you a point i think there's levels of

1:38:00time and liability involved in different

1:38:02things and I've on numerous occasions

1:38:05had them want to put just do you steer

1:38:08and we'll push that anyone hook you up

1:38:10whoa again really don't want to bring

1:38:11out the big roll away where they pushing

1:38:13you

1:38:14they get behind you with the big bumper

1:38:15and they they want to push you to wear

1:38:17to wherever you're goin wherever it

1:38:19needs to be driven

1:38:20well that doesn't sound safe at all yeah

1:38:22you want that's it's worth upgrading

1:38:23from that I guess a yep get the good

1:38:27triple-a em so about but the the number

1:38:32one thing about restoring an RV is that

1:38:35the danger is that you get in there and

1:38:38you start putting spice in the spice

1:38:39rack right but oh you don't lose your

1:38:42way

1:38:43yeah right you've got you can't occupy

1:38:45it until you've got it straightened out

1:38:50you know you can't just start going in

1:38:52there and putting throw pillows around

1:38:54if you're going to rip up the carpet

1:38:55right and so she also you do want to use

1:38:59it

1:39:00yeah thing you don't want this to just

1:39:01be a boat project we're just a rich guy

1:39:03with nothing better to do this is you

1:39:05want your family to be able to roll

1:39:06around in this that's right so so so the

1:39:08current challenges prioritizing fix it

1:39:11up projects so that we get the we get

1:39:15the main mechanical ones done

1:39:17immediately and then we get the we have

1:39:19a list of the other mechanical stuff

1:39:21that we need to get done and then we

1:39:23have like how how much like fabric

1:39:29cleaner and windex do we need to get in

1:39:34here and start enjoying it i look at

1:39:36that windshield you can just see

1:39:37everything can it's a big big windshield

1:39:39and it's one of the nice things about

1:39:40them is that so they just have huge

1:39:43windows I see this this i mean like this

1:39:45inside it's likely it's like you're

1:39:47living room

1:39:47yeah so it's it's so it feels very light

1:39:49and airy in there it's not it doesn't

1:39:52feel like a claustrophobic RV is stinky

1:39:55well how stinky is it stinky in the

1:39:58sense that at some point along the way

1:40:00an old person put some sort of fabric

1:40:04softener got a potpourri solution yeah

1:40:06potpourri and so you walk in there and

1:40:09you're like I don't know what the bad

1:40:10smells are in this place because it's

1:40:12all covered with potpourri they could it

1:40:16could be terrible

1:40:17it could smell like mold and cats and

1:40:20and end times in there but but i don't

1:40:24but you want to know what it is you're

1:40:26smelling and you're gonna be able to

1:40:27keep the varmints out of this probably

1:40:28right he's got good seals and everything

1:40:30yeah but I feel like keep environments

1:40:32out is also another thing like leaks

1:40:34where you just know that it's part of RV

1:40:37ownership that that mice are going to

1:40:40try and get into your RV coach life

1:40:42that's correct that's right coach life

1:40:44it's ok it's it's my it's my new life

1:40:45coach life is the good life

1:40:48it's getting ugly dress at all you get

1:40:50captain's hat it's very unclear to me

1:40:52how to dress in a seventies RVD dragon

1:40:56Commodore Schmidlapp kind of look for

1:40:57you

1:40:58mm you know i'm thinking a

1:40:59double-breasted navy blazer Atlee

1:41:01east ok I I you know I can't believe I

1:41:04just said this I said are you gonna get

1:41:05a captain's hat I you will probably

1:41:07choose captains hat from amongst the

1:41:09ones you have already

1:41:11the problem with the with my current

1:41:13captain's hat selection is that I have

1:41:14some shitty captain's hats

1:41:16let's setup great huh it's time to

1:41:18upgrade to get a good captain's hat that

1:41:20befits my status as the captain captain

1:41:24the coach food

1:41:25coach congratulations you're gonna love

1:41:34it

1:41:34you can wait your whole family's gonna

1:41:36let we're gonna drive around San

1:41:37Francisco together we're going to cause

1:41:39a lot of problems for people in this

1:41:40yep yep