Ep. 171: "A Weiner-Shaped Hole"
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[Music]
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hello I John hi Merlin how's it going
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good how are you going I'm going i just
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had a lot of ramen really fast are you
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doing some podcasting today i have three
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podcast today
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wow I do like two back-to-back do you
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think that we have reached peak podcast
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go and we reach peak podcast from the
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first podcast came out that's all you
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haha i don't know you're you're you're
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on so many programs now
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yeah i'm hoping to be i'm hoping to took
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to like presage the peak post pogchamp
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podcast you maybe you'll be the last
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great podcaster would not be nice you
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should you should you should edit one of
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these and put it out put it together
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sometime that be fun for you it'd be
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nice to be remembered for something
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oh yeah he was the last great podcaster
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em everyone lets out last starfighter i
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don't know i don't want to edit a
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podcast I don't think neither do i em
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it's not nearly as sexy as it sounds it
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does sound pretty sexy I've always
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imagined lonely sandwich sitting in his
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lonely Garrett surrounded by screens and
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putting together you look nice today's
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back in the golden era the governor's he
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would spend hours and hours and hours
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yeah yeah I got faster over time but
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yeah he would
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he spent an improbably large amount of
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time on this lot of romance in it well
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so do you feel like you still have
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podcasting in your ya know do it i don't
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care how was your podcast reservoir
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right now is it full of great stories
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and great memories
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oh we had some times didn't we haha up
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what's easy with you because you always
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you always got a new angle you've always
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got a new thing
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yeah oh yeah always a thing you know the
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king of China's in Seattle today
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oh my god things are crazy right now
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yeah with the China has a king I didn't
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know that r is it not a king private
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from major premier Premier primary air
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from a overlay or a prime minister a
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chief chief chief poobah things are
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crazy and you got you got the addy I you
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get the pontiff
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coming to the east coast everybody's
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iphones are gonna be arriving late
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yeah i mean the traffic in seattle is
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already but the backing up from the Pope
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visiting all the way
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yeah well because yeah it's causing a
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major traffic jam back east and that
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just has a ripple effect santacon
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additive quality it's the to the
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butterfly and Charlie geometric
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butterflies
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yeah maybe one thing another thing now
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that's exciting and so-and-so YC there
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ah well there's a little thing you may
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have heard of I don't know if it gets
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all the way down to San Francisco but we
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call the Pacific Rim which is our the
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rim around the Pacific where you would
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basically where you would snap the lid
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on the Pacific if it came with a lid
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oh ok ok so it's a rim and we also call
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it it's like the ring of fire
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that's another word for it because it's
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a rim of volcanoes are in conference
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happening so it's some kind of rim
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conference this isn't the big rim
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conference they haven't had one of those
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in a while but this is some kind of
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trade deal where we're Seattle a city of
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700,000 people gets to pretend for a
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minute that anyone in China has ever
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heard of it or that it is that it even
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ranks in the top 80 cities in China
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I mean by the time you get down to
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chinese cities that have 700,000 people
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you're basically like at the level i
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mean like the 700,000 person cities in
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China are the ones that make straws
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Chinese amulet it's like drinking straw
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city drinking straw to do that electron
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they have specializations by different
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areas right and socially yet that i
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believe it is and so maybe from the
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straw district you from straw district
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or you're from paper clip down or you're
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from something like that you know car
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like you like turtle wax villa and if
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you live in Turtle Wax Villa that's a
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city of a million and a half people and
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everyone there worked works making
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turtle wax but
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just as we like to think that we won
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World War two even though by the time
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the first American arrived in Europe
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something like 80 million Russians had
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already died
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oh my god we also like to think that we
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Seattle is some kind of economic
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powerhouse of the pacific rim where it's
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just like you know there are 300 million
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Americans and their and that is a
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rounding error in the population of
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error that the video i think i did the
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video about deaths in world war two was
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all like visualized oh yeah that was
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interesting i liked I liked the guy you
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know that that kind of like take some
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data turn it into a a video podcast hope
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it goes viral
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I like that that business model that was
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very well made and it really makes the
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point that you're describing which is
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first of all you know we were not in the
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war super early
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no that's not a war happen before we got
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involved yeah we like we were on the
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sidelines kind of not really i mean we
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were cheering certainly but it wasn't
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clear like we don't want to cheer too
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we didn't want the other kids to feel
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bad that wasn't what is it how many was
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a 20 million Russians well it's hard
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it's hard to say because you really
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can't and i can count it right yeah this
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is the thing about Mao to its like the
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famine deaths like how do you count the
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famine deaths by the people that go in
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gulags yeah you you lose ten million to
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famine that's it's happening
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concurrently with the war it's happening
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because of decisions made by the same
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people but you really love it in you
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know that's it's a lot harder to count
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those two because everybody starves and
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they just sort of they know they wander
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off in a field and die and the census
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guys are really like standing there
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well this is a depressing page you think
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it's called World War two casualties on
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the wikipedia oh yeah that's a that's a
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that is a fun one isn't it because that
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they break it down
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I mean you know the number of people
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that died in the Ukraine alone or our
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belarus we just don't really think about
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the sacrifices that were made
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there and they were really making those
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sacrifices on behalf of Liberty they
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were just being sacrificed let's just
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call it what it is right this is that
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one of the columns is deaths as a
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percentage of the 1939 population m and
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it's sitting pretty
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poland 16 around seventeen percent of
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the population m amazing like like 16
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people a lot of people dressing so well
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you know so I mean seattle in the grand
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scheme of things really doesn't matter
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to anybody
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don't talk crazy except for people who
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live in Portland you got coffee
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you got that you got grunge so that we
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can pnp Boeing oh god you got Boeing see
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Boeing matters people pay attention to
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Boeing got 13 coins not for much longer
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know what tell me
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well there apparently the building that
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13 coins in the 13th chords kind of its
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it's strange it's part of it is in the
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building that is currently occupied by
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the seattle times and that building is
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state but on either side of the Seattle
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Times building this plan to tear tear
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the other buildings down including most
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of the 13 coins and put in a residential
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tower got whoa i'm gonna move
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well there is a 13 coins there's a
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second 13 coins out by the airport so
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for 14 to 26 coin if the hey if they
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tear the one that were used to go into
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down we can always go i've started going
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out to the airport one anyway because
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it's it just taking somebody to dinner
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in the middle of the night out by the
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airport just has an extra layer of kind
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of greasy CD it just feels i'm going to
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13 coins was always meant to feel a
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little bit pornographic
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and then you need dislocate that to
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seatac and it just starts 2012 the amine
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yeah everybody's crossing on crossing
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their legs really open 24 hours
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yeah look at its menu you can get a
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steak Oscar at like four in the morning
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you can get veal parmesan for in the
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morning looking liver and onions
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no problem mmm steak Sinatra sir served
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on the trashcan lid will then wipes off
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with that I've seen you put away some
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food in that place
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oh hell yes you know I'm a little thing
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yeah I don't know this is ever really
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really come up in the mythology of John
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and I don't I don't say this is a high
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citizen you you finish everyone else's
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food and try and try again i don't want
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but the thing about me is I like a
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smorgasbord
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mmm burgas lord are you like a
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smorgasbord sports in the sense that if
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there is a plate if there's a hit on any
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menu if there's a sampler plate that
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isn't of like the fried cheese sampler
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yeah right like you go into a place and
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it's like--go appetizer sampler it's
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just like gross just undifferentiated
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golden-brown fried things
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yeah but i but i like to try a little
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bit of everything so if they're if
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there's ever like a you know one of each
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kind of oyster or one of each kind of
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stuffed pepper so you know I'll always
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get the always get the the sampler and
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and the best sampler ball is the little
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bit of food that everybody leaves on
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their plate at the end of a meal because
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you go around here like oh you add the
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lemon the lemon pasta and you had the
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you know you have calamari steak Supreme
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yeah you got a little bit of this a
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little of that and so but i but i but
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I've learned over time you know you have
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to ask you can't just put your fork on
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somebody else's plate and also you wait
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until they're did they're clearly done
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this you're telling me there's a sort of
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like it like an ethics of them finishing
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yeah because a lot of people you know
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they want to eat at their own pace they
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object to somebody kind of you know
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and I have understandably they object to
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somebody like vulturing and for that I'm
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see if you wanted that or a conversely
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the people that you know and again it's
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their right to do it it's their meal but
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if they want to take it home you can't
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without going over so it is a technique
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a restaurant so it was sort of presumed
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by everybody that he was going to you
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know be the chef and he brought some he
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brought a pork Lowen he brought some
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Cajun shrimps he had some food prepared
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but I was a little bit like so I mean
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we're going camping know like where the
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wieners where's the right gonna want
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some wieners to it was like well i got
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this pork loin was like well yeah sure
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we're going to eat the pork loin and the
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cajun shrimp but it's a camping trip we
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ought to have a package of wieners and I
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started to feel like oh I see I mean I'm
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the only one that really feels like
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we're going into this half-cocked really
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we're going out into the woods
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and everybody else is like oh the poor
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i'm sure the pork loin will be fun like
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I'm sure it's fine too but there's I
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mean there's a winner shaped hole mmm
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that only a wiener can fill and and how
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do i have to pull it to have to pull
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this car over to its turn around and go
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back and at that point there's probably
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not like 7-11 you could go to pick up
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some wieners
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that's the problem right now you're
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talking about like let's go back down
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the mountain through over the river
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through the gate
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that's interesting your different kind
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of fancy because there's already gonna
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be there is the fanciness of the
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fortress but you're being met offense
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you're being fancy about the idea
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there's not that this is obviously the
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winter shaped hole here we gotta write
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write on it and you know the problem the
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problem
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the thing about a wiener is your stand
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around the campfire and everybody's
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drinking their single malt bourbon and
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half the people are smoking their
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natural man she sure roots and you can
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go over pull the winner out of a package
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without asking permission without doing
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any kind of song and dance you can stick
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it on the end of a sharpened stick and
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you can have a winner her but with a
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pork loin or some cajun shrimp
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you know you got to be part yet that's
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you gotta sign off on the whole dinner
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everybody's involved it's a big
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production you know part of camping is
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every once in awhile you look around
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here like well I'm not going to have any
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single malt whisky I'm not gonna maybe
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I'll have a little pull off of a Schrute
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but what I want right now is a burnt
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hotdogs
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uh-huh but you know it wasn't my camping
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trip it wasn't my I was just you know i
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was part of the most part of the
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Praetorian Guard yeah and so are the
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thing with camping also is a big part of
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camping is the go-along get-along part
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you will be helpful
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you want to be not a distraction right
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there's a whole element of like helping
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out and not being a problem when he's
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exactly right you do not want to be the
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guy that they're like
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yeah what are we going camping again i
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don't know let's not let's not invite
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the one guy that didn't help do anything
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right just set around complaining about
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there not being any hot dogs are the
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winners
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you don't wanna be that guy you want to
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be on it I mean and the thing is that in
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a situation like that you'll revert two
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basic types right and there's the you
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know there's the oh yeah right there's
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the cook who's making the pot of beans
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and there's the you know there's the guy
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that's willing the toothpicks for
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everybody i like to think of myself in
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that situation is being kind of a
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justice of the peace character huh
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it's like you know I'm here in case
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anybody wants to get married or anybody
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wants to resolve a dispute here to
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adjudicate that right and you know and
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and and and decide what the law of this
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region is and i think i think most
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people appreciate me in that capacity
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oh absolutely yeah yeah Roderick so long
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he's not here to like he's not here to
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school a lot of scrubbing of pots but
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just in case just in case of tree falls
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in the forest and somebody wants to know
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whether we heard it or not
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John's they're thinking about the big
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ideas I had a cool experience in
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portland that reasons that will be
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apparent i'm i'm reluctant to bring out
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i feel like i should share with you
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yeah yeah that's what I'm here for um
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there's a there's a group of people that
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whenever we're in the same time we go
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out to dinner the four of us and just
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one of those like you know it's one of
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those like you know what I could be a
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crowd just for people secret dinner do
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you do you have a name for yourselves
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yeah are you that the group or the no no
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it'sit's two guys and two girls were
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called nuts and cherries is in the name
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that's what Ozzie and their the nuts
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where the cherries
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it's good i don't know why international
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nuts and cherries and so nuts and
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cherries we decided to go out and get a
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nice dinner we're gonna blow the budget
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a little bit weird al couch oh ok so we
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got a reservation before i think it was
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like those early because went to a party
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you know the fest is going on campus i'm
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telling you this
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you don't have a gaucho is down in
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California this is this one is not as
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nice as the one in Seattle that you and
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I have been to right that one's much
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more I mean no I mean just in terms of
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the Interior it's more speed and one
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cialis more spacious but was you know we
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won't go there it's five-fifteen we go
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we have some drinks we get get
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appetizers we get steaks it was amazing
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and the service was incredible it was
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just it was so fun and you know big
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dinner right so this is the big event
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and we had so much fun nuts and cherries
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I mean when was last time nuts and
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cherries had convened nothing cherries
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to to me be four times a year usually
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mr. lucky twice here
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oh yeah okay supercell two boys two
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girls just platonic eating and was great
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and we went and then we go to this party
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and the party is really fine
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that's a nice people and were like what
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should we do next and where the nut says
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she says let's go back what I said are
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you saying what I think you're thinking
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what I think you're saying she's gonna
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come back
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whoa so we reconvened the other cherry
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was not available so we have a proxy
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cherry but doesn't she went back in a
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second state dinner
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you're kidding me i'm not as the
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greatest night of my life one of the one
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of the nuts
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oh yeah said let's go back let's go back
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it's almost it's almost eleven it was
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1030 without even specifying what she
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meant everybody understood all everybody
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let's go back go back wow I don't
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mm I don't know how many more times my
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life I'll do that but I do not regret
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that you booked into the party who two
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trips to El Gaucho that's my really good
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is that may be the greatest thing ever
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that's deeply innovate now becoming
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clear it's not the kind of thing i do a
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no but i but i mean it's it's kind of
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its kind of revolutionary well you the
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whole idea you know it's like the
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hobbits right you have second breakfast
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but how many times you heard about
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somebody having second dinner
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well I have survived it all the time but
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not not in the same restaurants not you
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don't go back and drop another two
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hundred and fifty dollars
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it's not something I do all the time but
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you know has at least a
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once-in-a-lifetime thing i can highly
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and I like the idea of going with the
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same group of people if you can go only
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oh yeah
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everything about it is perfect and maybe
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even trying to say we could get the same
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way to our waiter was living
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haha but the waiter saw you come in the
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winter who would you know what the keys
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cash daddy's getting ready introduced us
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to our new server showed us a place we
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had we had a little bit Rocky IV and
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then don't have another dinner and your
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second dinner did you order you must
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have ordered different things i did i
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had different drinks and actually had
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maybe the same drink at the animal
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fashion but yeah I had a different
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dinner I i tried something a little more
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little more ambitious didn't see that's
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exactly what you do right you'd go you'd
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you reach a little bit i don't think the
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thing is I i have to tell you I had such
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a wonderful time I don't I can't tell
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you that I would do anything differently
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but if I were advising somebody who is
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considering we need a name for this
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yeah if you're going to do a tactical to
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dinner tonight
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I think they're I think there are ways
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to think about doing it i think the idea
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of like is gonna be the same place twice
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it's gonna be different places a
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different approach
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I think it might be novel to go and have
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exactly the same dinner twice i think
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that's an interesting idea to I mean I
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feel like hanging out with a group of
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people going to dinner early going to a
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party and then after after the party
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going out to like a late dinner that's
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something different we're talking about
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returning to the scene of the crime
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yeah yeah let's lay out some of the
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bullets on this I think it it doesn't
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have to be a fancy restaurant
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although i think that's kind of cool but
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it should be the same restaurant
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yeah we should be to the extent possible
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mostly the same group of people all the
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you know that the the heart disease is
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your first time dining at the John
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a little how we work here listen here
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let me stop you there
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let me stop you there bring so much
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money did it bring us and bring us a
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large pepperoni pizza and four menus and
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take our drink order whatever but please
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and thank you get that get that
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pepperoni pizza cooking because then
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you're sitting here looking at the menu
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here like what do I get do i get the
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antipasto do i get the what do I want
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this I want that what maybe I'll get a
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Joe's special and then just as the
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large pepperoni pizza shows up it's
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perfect ya see
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god dammit this is the kind of
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innovation we need and dining yeah it's
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because it's so normative John you go
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anyplace there's a certain size the
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why is there anything I need to know
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about yeah right what it what about your
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what about this experience is special I
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item to a little bit of how this works
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yeah let me tell you a little bit how
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this works you shut up and go get our
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drinks bring us a large pepperoni pizza
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is this your first time waiting on
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that's so because the thing is nobody
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nobody wants to go through the whole
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like we can all agree on cheese bullshit
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everybody there tho except if you're
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dining with Ted Leo who's fuckin vegan
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slice of pizza right you just yeah you
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want to slice of pizza
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well I mean youryour there yeah so the
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pet large pepperoni comes everybody gets
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a slice of pizza a few of us have a
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couple of slices and then what do you
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have you have a you have a slice left
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over and then here comes your your main
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here comes your here comes your veal
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here comes your if you're right it would
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be perfect
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it's like it's it's it's it's bananas he
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just you walk in you don't even have to
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make a show of it you just lean over you
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lean over to the guy you say brings a
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large pepperoni pizza
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there's so much room for innovation in
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these kinds of things we all know about
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things like you know let's have
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breakfast for dinner right like that
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tonight we're going to pancakes for
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dinner right doing some of the afternoon
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temps exactly what they don't make
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daughters at her school today today is
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breakfast for lunch day so she's getting
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pancakes and sausage from
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everybody's favorite meal but then
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there's also other ways you can go you
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can go into things like lets you know
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mind especially with certain kinds of
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restaurants where I would just like for
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you do that let's have appetizers for
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dinner we do it all the time because the
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parts of San Francisco you walk in and
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whatever the whatever the main courses
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are they are just scaled up appetizers
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courses a place you may instance a tapas
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like tournedos of beef and you know
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seven kinds of croutons and one pickled
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pickle on top of something else pickled
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none of that sounds great but but then
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like octopus tongue
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mhm pickled go I don't want that either
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you know what I will do what I want
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bring us the meatballs bring us the
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blanched spinach
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yeah just to just to make you feel like
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that this is still a thing that we're
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all experimenting with pickling pickling
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yeah so yeah we I went out to dinner the
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seattle-based nerds and we went to one
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the whale and the and the purpose in the
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the weight of the the server and the
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great Cormac McCarthy something that the
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dined with us before
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let me tell you a little bit how would
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how this goes how this happens
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everything has been pickled today
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on the premises on the premises
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chicken takes an hour and a half because
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it's not actually a chicken that's
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question about the sides are they start
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ordered a bunch of food we were there
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can't took the reins was just like okay
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we'll have the pick of pickled beets on
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top of cabbage will have the the pickled
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onions with the with you know pickle
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clams and he ordered like 15 things from
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the appetizer menu and it was great i
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like you're eating a jar of mustard
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oh boy but that's and it cost one
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what dining is now you think it's cheap
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the pickle stuff got vinegar costs you
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know how long it took us to tell you
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about this have you locally sourced ill
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an hour is the law in Seattle
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everything useful out of it and and and
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then turn it into a pickling parlor and
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that's not none of this is cheap
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just a buzz with ideas i feel like i
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especially when they've got like a cart
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like you're never really done ordering
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until you just make them go away like
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you're just coming they're offering your
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new foods they're stacking plates i
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think the closest thing after that the
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we get is sushi
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that's a different kind of animal but
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was sushi even today like i don't know
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why i first started getting eating sushi
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like let's start out with writes this
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sure we'll bring you the edamame because
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so many people ordered at mommy to start
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that now most sushi restaurants just
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bring you some edamame just to like yeah
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we know you're going to order this it's
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now we just consider placing mind
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readers and I like the idea of starting
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out like with the pepperoni pizza and
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just building pepperoni pizza because
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just like the foundation we don't know
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what this building is going
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that's right it's the bits the basic
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level it's the ground floor and then you
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know it anymore when I go to get dim sum
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like i'm climbing up on the side of of
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i'm climbing up on the side of like a a
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moving truck and a bit more tanjo is
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spraying instead of chrome directly in
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my mouth a spring msg just directly in
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my mouth is like I called secret salt
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you know I don't need to eat the mystery
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pork I don't need to put the buns in my
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mouth I could just I could just jump up
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there and say you know like I am chrome
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witness men and they could just
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you're going to Valhalla here's the msg
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IBM restaurant with spray msg is pretty
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good but if I was standing on a
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foundation of pepperoni pizza when that
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layer of bread and cheese that msg could
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wouldn't have that like hallucinatory
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hour and a half after after the best dim
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sum meal where you just you know where
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you're like you're hearing colors and
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oh you can like to smell truth yeah yeah
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because the msg was doing with your
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synesthesia little bra you get that
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pretty hard don't you
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you know i i've done a fair enough
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amount of research to know that the only
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people that will really stand up and say
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that msg has an effect on them it's like
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Jenny McCarthy level of craziness
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because all of the science people and
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all of the food people say no that's not
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true you do not feel msg but they're
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yeah i'm a member of the cult of msg
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feelers and when I eat it I can fucking
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feel the feet I can feel the future I
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can control
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I i have spooky action at a distance I
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can make i can make i can make like
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Adams line up with each other is you
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access she's just obviously senses but
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eventually I don't want to put it too
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strongly gives you said there might be a
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nascent powers that you're not even
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aware of from day to day
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that's exactly right you get a window of
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possibility when you when you feel the
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msg things start to happen you're
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noticing things you never noticed before
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I can feel my hair you can feel your
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answers just like you really like all my
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god i have this all the time
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Yeah Yeah right well except that it also
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hurts a little bit like there's there's
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a it's it's like with all great powers
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comes from some kind of discomfort
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yeah right so so all of a sudden like I
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feel too much I here too much i kinda
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wanna go to sleep but I also I
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you know kind of want to drive a truck
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into a dust storm like it's a it's a
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very peculiar state and it's and it's
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especially destabilizing when other
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people try to tell you that it's not
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happening
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Yeah right right right you know not how
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you feel about beverages I think as you
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know I'm a multi beverage person i like
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i like multiple beverages sometimes at
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the same time you're talking about like
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a table where you have a sparkling water
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an old-fashioned an orangina a coffee a
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coffee and a cup of green tea all sort
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of a raid around with it could be
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surprised me but you know obviously
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bring the water I'm gonna want the water
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my big water traps will you don't have
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to order that no my standard go to UM
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for a time and nineties was I would have
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you know regular glass glass of water a
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coffee scotch and coke
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ooh ok well mine is a water a cup of
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coffee always with him and then a
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milkshake that if you can go into a
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place and have a cup of coffee and a
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milkshake with a water back then and
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then a pepperoni pizzas on the way then
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fucking order french dip and you got it
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covered right you order friendship with
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a side salad and you're gonna walk out
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of there and there's not going to be
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that thing of like oh I wish I'd had the
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mushrooms right well i always get the
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mushrooms
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well I used to get the mushrooms until I
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bit into a mushroom one time and it
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squirted hot oil on me that was a
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triggering thing for you know it now and
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now if you like to get warnings if we're
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up mushrooms are going to be discussed
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no no but about squirting hot squirting
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if mushroom show up on the table if
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listen if hot squirting is going to be
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discussed i do want to i do want some
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kind of warning or at least you know I
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want to be like in pig latin
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no one would be aware it's impossible
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possible conversations room a hurting
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square but look if if if if a ramekin or
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a a gravy boat of mushroom shows up and
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their sizzling in butter
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I know what I'm getting into what I
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don't want
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is deep fried mushrooms they already
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have they have lots of secrets and
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surprises
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yeah they appear to be like dry hot and
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dry and then you crunch into it you
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realize like oh the the whole miserable
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feeling would hit the inside here comes
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yeah that hurts the fungus is just
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soaked boiling hot oil and then it's and
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it won't cool down because it's inside
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this crust that's a dangerous fucking
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grenade slam that fucking milkshake
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yeah but once the hot oils hits you
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you're fucked I mean no milk shake in
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the world can take that getting together
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in Africa to get vanilla I can rotate i
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rotate milkshakes i will not get there
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are a lot of problems right now in the
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northwest and one of them is that I was
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also just recently in portland and
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there's a there's a the popular ice
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cream shop down there now is called
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something like yeah the Salton salt &
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yes it's straight it's pretty fancy it's
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pretty fancy and you and and they hand
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you a menu of like 14 different kinds of
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ice cream
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I can't wait like an hour it's nuts you
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gotta wait an hour and the ice cream
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flavors are salted licorice shoe-leather
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bananas flambé with anchovies wooden
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comb and he'll eat shit you guys like
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come on one just one flavor too clever
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too clever by half
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yeah one flavor 11 flavor that is not
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for that it where it's not an experience
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I just we caught on somebody's twirly
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moustache
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I just want some fucking ice cream rose
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i will lead a scoop of vanilla right now
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except that your vanilla is laced with
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lavender I don't want lab I you know I
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have to tell you I don't want to sound
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touchy but I I think I have a bone to
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pick with people who are anti vanilla I
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think vanilla can be very very good
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it's vanilla is not vanilla vanilla is
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not boring when you get a really good
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like a you know what they're related the
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real vanilla bean taste to it
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God that can be so good even look at
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some of the Athena haagen-dazs the
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Hadassah what's called vanilla bean so
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I'm gonna be good
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that's a good as ice cream
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you know up here in the northwest we
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have the we have to look alright that's
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the creamery that's the creamery and
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that tillamook makes ice cream and it's
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not it's not which it it's not like
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premium ice cream but it's ice cream
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that I support I support them mostly
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because it has a northwestern pedigree
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and they have like five different kinds
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of vanilla but there's one called
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old-fashioned vanilla and I just get it
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reflexively because if you put
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old-fashioned in front of something I
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just immediately feel like I'm at
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Farrell's ice cream shop and somebody
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with the with the arm garter and a
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bowler hat is coming over and
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rollerskating yeah it's your birthday
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and so I get that old-fashioned vanilla
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and the thing about vanilla ice cream
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for me the first two bites are ambrosia
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and then like everything it just sort of
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dulls your senses and it turns into a
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menu just like cream and lard in your
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mouth as fast as you can to try and get
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the to try and make the screaming
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stopped the promise Seattle has to do
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with shakes get to me fancy ice creams
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you can't get like a normal shape are
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they are sandals on
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oh no I think ninety-nine percent of the
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time when you go to when you go to get a
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milkshake in Seattle you have chocolate
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vanilla strawberry but then you have
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other up you know you can get raspberry
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which I sometimes will do I like a
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raspberry shake i like a blackberry
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shake i'll even get a peanut butter
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chocolate shake
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that sounds good coffee shake very good
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mint chocolate chip shake all of these
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are the classic Flav's don't sound like
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scott simpson here but there are the
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classic flat ass itch but you come in
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and you got you get your water you got
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your milkshake you obviously that your
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coffee there's a pepperoni pizza on the
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way you know what would you what would
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you like to see in dining technologies
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that is to encourage a certain cut way
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of eating or to open up the idea that
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this could be what you wanted to be what
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would you like to see when you go to a
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restaurant I want to see a big table
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where people have carved their names and
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probably large like like two large the
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tables too large but that's good because
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it's a picnic table style thing
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I'd like there to be a pipe organ
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haha and I'd like them to be playing old
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Harold Lloyd movies up on the brick wall
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and then the guy with the pipe organ is
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like scoring the movie I'd like there to
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be milkshakes that kind of come out with
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the pizza should be as long as you're
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going along on a wackadoodle 70 steams
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should be a phone on the table that you
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can pick up
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oh hello oh hello sure there should be a
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phone on the table and you can you call
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you could I mean here's another one i
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agree with you i like so far getting to
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shakeys you got Farrell's you got that
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trend of like the of the like
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prototypical Bennigan's TGI Fridays lots
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of antiques and shit on the walls and
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you can I talk on the phone that looks
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like shit what should be confident and
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shit you get a giant table i also like
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the idea first of all everything is okay
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like whatever you want if you want a
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weird way we'll make it that way if you
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want a weird portion size will make it
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will do the extent we can we will try to
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make that work and price it accordingly
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no restrictions there should be a
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minimal number of restrictions and it's
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not because the chef is is fucking high
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strong and doesn't like to marrek like I
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want to merge onto marrek em right
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that's another one because the other one
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I know this is going to be difficult
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like I looked at the 13 coins menu just
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now for like an hour not fantastic menu
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but like I you know it seems like you go
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to somebody's gonna get Danny's and
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everything's price like a Denny's you
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good with 13 coins are now got you
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everything is price that way i like to
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see some more variation where I could
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get in $80 tomahawk steak
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uh I could also get a pretty good
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three-dollar grilled cheese to top it
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with interesting i wonder how that would
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work i wonder if that would actually be
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a problem if your menu ginger gamut
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well i just i wonder if I want you know
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it's that the thing where people always
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buy the thing in the middle right
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I don't know if you'd ever sure every
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once in a while some some guy and
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oppressed shirt with a gaudy watch is
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going to order the $80 steak just to
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lord it over everybody right but how
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long were you can have that sitting in
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the fridge before that guy comes in
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oh you got to be so careful with that
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and I i have to tell you if it's a
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certain price and I don't want to be
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normal not normative here but if it's a
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certain price restaurant and they have
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lobster on the menu or they've got too
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many different kinds of seafood i will
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steer away from that you'll avoid the
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lobster but like what if you love kebabs
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but you're avoiding lamb
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what if you want a grilled cheese kebab
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like whatever it is you want i would
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love a place that would do to the extent
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possible try to make an interesting if
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we want to get if we win how about this
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what if you want the $80 tomahawk steak
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as an appetizer for the table
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whoa whoa right that diners Without
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Borders see i remember i remember back
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in the eighties before the world became
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standardized traveling back east through
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small towns and buy back east I mean the
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Midwest which at the time seemed like
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back east to me you'd go into these
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little towns and their be kind of like
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though there be a restaurant and the
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sign outside
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what's a restaurant group you know what
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i mean and i do is you should go it's
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unacceptable have a restaurant called
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restaurant that was called rosebud known
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informally by the former dead owners
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name sure was collecting pointers guess
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jeans they care that it's a restaurant
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and jeans been dead for a long time it's
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what I'd like jeans jeans wife's second
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husband actually loved his cigarettes
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but so you go in there and behind the
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bar there be a bar obviously where
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people would like white a paper hats
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were bustling it was fairly bustling
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place is full of farmers and there would
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be a ham there will be a ham and there
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will be a turkey and there will be a
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roast beef and you could make any kind
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of food with those combination of those
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things that would be nice right there
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would be simply ran out of that hand
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there's no more ham no more him until
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they had another hand and it just feels
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like from the from that combination of
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ingredients that the milkshake
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ingredients they have the ham the roast
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beef in the turkey they had the bread
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they had cheese and eggs you could make
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like 7,000 kinds of food you can make a
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ham sandwich but you can also make a ham
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I feel like that has been lost a ham
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steak so much has been lost
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yeah and now you walk into a place
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you're like well for the tonight we have
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tonight chef has prepared ham steak 444
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okay first of all it's not fillet of ham
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heads and it's just it's just it's just
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yeah it's been picked a dollar signs no
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no dollar signs on the meddling Flav
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hand chef has a way of hand for price
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available on request
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AQ & and I and you know it's just like
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what the fuck am come on it's one of the
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it's one of the basic foods there ought
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to be him
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I mean it won't be him everywhere I told
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you I totally agree
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I don't want to know i don't want to
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sound like i don't want to sound like
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somebody that's like him everywhere have
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everywhere him everywhere and down and
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I've got like dancers on either side
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twerking him everywhere am everywhere
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ladies and gentlemen the ham targets I
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don't you know I had that I don't want
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that to be my legacy and everywhere so
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but you can get a scoop but here's the
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thing you can you got turkey got rescue
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and you get a scoop of macaroni cheese
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on the side or maybe a monkey dish
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that's right also yeah I want paper hats
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also lots of monkey dishes and ramekins
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abso-fucking-lutely i love all you know
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missing oh my god sauce
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what about sauces now sauces it seems to
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me like the ham the turkey maybe you
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don't have a ton of it but you could
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have a saucepan of like six sauces that
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could be deployed tactically on any meal
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that anyone ordered you and I have
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talked a lot about sauce and not enough
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though I still feel like I've got a
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sauce whole well yeah it's a few you do
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have a sauce whole I do too but I don't
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think I don't think other people care
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about sauce like we do I don't think
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they thought about it enough to get an
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education issue it's an education issue
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and the thing is you can't think about
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sauce you have to do about sauce in a
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sister you know what I'm saying like s
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the songs you have to you have to you
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have to live the sauce and that's how
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you know that you want the sauce the
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song yet the sauce has to come you have
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to go how their capers in this song
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los that the education part is important
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John you have to be aware of the sauce
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and open to the sauce because here's
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what you're thinking if you're one of
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these people it's not that people are
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dumb where the people are unaware
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they're not educated there's kind of
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dumb and sort of unaware about sausage
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yeah so they're thinking if you've
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already gone through this you you you
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know this this is the thing people go
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sauces there's already plenty of sauces
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no there's not plenty of sauces go to
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the grocery store and try to get
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yourself some store made sauces and
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gravies how's that look at all have you
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ever have you ever bought a jar of gravy
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and I was like to all of the gravy's
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it's a literal abortion it's simple bad
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constant part of this one day I went and
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I tried about four envelopes from
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McCormick's and I tried some of this
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chicken tonight type of abortions and
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brought it home
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they were all awful i could have shat
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better sauce yep yep and you know it up
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for me I i have felt like the day that
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they can put gravy and a can or in a jar
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and have it even remotely resemble gravy
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is the day that I would go on a manned
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mission to Mars
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I mean sure this is the thing I the
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number one thing that is inhibiting me
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from going to Mars
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aside from not having been invited is
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the idea that i'm gonna get up there and
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there's going to be a you know it's
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going to be Thanksgiving and we're going
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to open up our bags of like gonna get a
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tube of Turkey to ya youtuber turkey
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dinner and I'm gonna be like yeah I'm on
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the way to Mars I'm a but I'm a historic
[TS]
00:48:36
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pioneer and then you're going to take
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00:48:39
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that first taste of gravy and it's going
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to taste like somebody burned a plastic
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bag and you're gonna say what the what
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the fuck get me back to earth
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you can make that noise I can't do this
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I can't do this they know about assault
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in the world can mask this terrible
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gravy has got to be paper hats
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it's got to be flexibility there should
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be sanitary that to me you don't need a
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ton of sauce we've covered sauces and
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gravies a little bit in the past i want
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to talk about it too much but who but i
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think a sausage gravy a nice brown gravy
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but now i'm told by our listeners that
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I'm overthinking the sausage gravy think
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that sausage gravy is actually trivially
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easy to make
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if you have you heard this uh well i
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would like to see it made
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well you go and look at a recipe it
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looks complicated but apparently it's
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pretty much as simple as crumble up some
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sausage put in some butter and cream and
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then you know its salt pepper and you've
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got sausage gravy but i don't see I feel
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like I want to fact check it a little
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bit but look but look at it seems like
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there should be a way like to have a
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restaurant that thing is it could be a
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big restaurant 13 coins pretty
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good-sized right
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yep you know why I'm gonna put the show
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that's the booths on my couch I can't be
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this is going away i'm so sad
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well it hasn't happened yet I mean
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there's a lot of things a lot of things
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that they say are going away and then
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they don't go away a lot of things that
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they don't tell you are going away just
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go away in the middle of the night that
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they tore down two blocks of businesses
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and apartment buildings on Broadway to
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build the new subway stop em
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Seattle is you know very excited about
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our big subway that is opening finally
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after after decades after 50 years of
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talking about internal or longer we
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finally now have our subway which goes
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from the University to downtown and it
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has three stops university one stop on
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capitol hill and then downtown so it's a
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three-stop train it cost 80 billion
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dollars to build i'll come on
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well maybe not 80 but is up there just a
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billion dollars to build ya a 400 people
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lost their lives
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what no nobody lost their lives anymore
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i'm so glad you finally out of that
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racing you can tell the truth you can
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speak the truth different ways but what
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they really what they did was they tore
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down two blocks of kind of you know they
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weren't the greatest businesses but it
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was it was it was one of those like
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stretches of businesses where there was
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the indian food restaurant there was the
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bong store yes but there was also the
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kitty cat bookstore
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there was the state-owned liquor store
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there were 4-5 business 45 storefronts
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where you could for awhile open a store
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that sold nothing but butane lighters
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and swords you can open a store that
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sold like African imports that was
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perpetually going out of business we
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call it the eternal flame right the
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store that we opened with a
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going-out-of-business sale and it was
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always going out of business
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ok like all those places where if you
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wanted to sell magic the gathering cards
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and have a fan of folding table where
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people could play cards in the middle of
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the day like you could open a store in
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one of these places they tore them all
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down including like an old apartment
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building and and the Minotaur the great
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coffee shop down the Godfather's Pizza
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where I used to sleep during the day
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when I didn't have a place to live
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normal down to build this subway and
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they built a huge fence around the hole
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2 square blocks so you couldn't see what
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was going on was like what's going on in
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there you know they're building
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something they're digging a big hole and
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then just the other day took the fence
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down to reveal that at least so far all
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they've built there is one of those
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municipal like west coast municipal
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style stuff subway tunnel entrance kiosk
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bulbs mean steps
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uh well because of the because of
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because Seattle as it has a geography
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that really is not at all suited to
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subways the only way to access the
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tunnel is by express elevator so there's
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nose-down know there's no escalate
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that's a terrible idea
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oh I know you need that for people with
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motion things though I don't want to
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under the ground so we're going to slide
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so here's how you access this thing you
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wanted to and that's that's their
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proposed like where we're all supposed
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to just be like fine with that but
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leaving that aside what what they have
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done is they took away they took away
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two blocks of businesses and and
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departments and my presumption was
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behind that giant wall when they were
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beavering away at digging their whole
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but they also had a plan to build a
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six-story building with apartments and
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ground floor retail in added at what is
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basically the busiest intersection on
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Capitol Hill certainly but one of the
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busiest intersections in the town and
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they took the wall down and it's just
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like it's basically a elevator door and
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so I see what you mean you mean like the
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kind of thing you'd see like in civic
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yeah there's just this creepy elevator
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tip it's just an elevator door sticking
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out of a plaza
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oh that sounds very anticlimactic after
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all the wall it's terribly
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anti-climactic and I just look at it I'm
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like well what's gonna happen here now
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like what
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there's no commerce happening there's no
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no one can live here
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that's so depressing John it's basically
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cut one end of broadway off from the
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other end because you're gonna walk
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along Broadway you're gonna be looking
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at the shop windows you're going to come
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to this elevator shaft and you're going
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to look past it you're going to see two
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blocks of just baked plane there's no
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landscaping and as far as i can tell men
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and so you're going to turn around and
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walk up the other side of broadway and
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and you're not going to get done the two
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sides of broadway now we're not
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connected the two ends of it and huge
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missed opportunity to have like this be
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a thing and instead what it is it's just
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a big Plaza where occupy wall street is
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going to stand around handing out flyers
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and chanting and wearing a guy fawkes
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masks and like it's just a they thought
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that they were building some kind of
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Logan's Run minimalism but like shitty
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all that space with shittiness
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maybe an encampment you could have an
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encampment they're all that'll be nice
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this not only we understand i mean i
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hereby can't tell how much this is john
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joking but the idea of like so there's
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an elevator people get in it they go way
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down to the subway is there are they are
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their constant elevator going up and
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down is there one elevator to go way
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down now they go way down now name it
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sounds a little bit like this corrosion
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by sisters of mercy
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mhm what we goin for uh well the song
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way down now i'll try this one
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we're down we're down now oh haha i like
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that we're down radar bae way down
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yahoo Rodin I said it not just type
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casey james even know what that is
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caseyjames sounds like a missing child
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except it's the casey james we're going
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to write a missing child casey james the
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I the buyer by good my fellow senators
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to endorse the way down case James bill
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what you're going to protect the
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children from being abducted quote to
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quote the great sound
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love daddy passed hey now hey now seeing
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this corrosion he now
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oh is it a bank of elevators how many
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how many elevators are there extant I
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don't know if you've ever ridden a
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municipal elevator that just opens into
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a part i spent just under 49 years
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avoiding municipal elevator
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avoiding municipal elevator
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because I know it's just a moving toilet
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yeah well that's exactly right like if I
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municipal elevator people need them here
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and i'll get a pop of my thoughts
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sometimes but hey the elevators Bart
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elevators are out at civic center or
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wherever but like people just shit
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that's what they are they're just moving
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jitters
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I mean about an elevator in a city
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building where they lock the doors at
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night and they have cleaning crews those
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elevators most of the time don't work
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and are like yeah right people use them
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as bathrooms now
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picture an elevator that's just open to
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the world and and tell me even if they
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had 20 banks of them and even if they
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were the fastest self-cleaning elevators
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in the world are you its there's so many
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points of failure would you ever get on
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one I would not ever get on one how
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long's the ride
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kinda like 11 minutes haha oh I mean it
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was like an 11-minute elevator ride
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every day
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basically it feels like you would be
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with your standing there like my the
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chilean miner am I the chilean miner I'm
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gonna get on this elevator all i want to
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do is take a film average and I'm gonna
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get on this I'm gonna go down and then
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and then I'm gonna be down there they're
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gonna be drilling a hole and sending me
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like cheese sandwiches through a whole
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there's only one stop at the top ground
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level and there's one stop at the subway
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you're gonna get the satisfying king of
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making progress right is there a
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thermometer to show you when you get
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closer to the subway
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it's a really good question you haven't
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been on this have you what it's not open
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you should get a tour
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the thing is this is why would i would
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have loved a tour and when during my
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political almost came in second for an
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election you should be one of the first
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people in that elevator and now during
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my aspirin days there there were people
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who were already you know public
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officers who were given like advanced
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rides on the train and it looks amazing
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it looks really cool because Seattle has
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never had a subway and also since the
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subway only has three stops it's just a
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huge long tunnel that the train go
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really fast
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you know this that I gotta read about
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this this sounds read this sounds I got
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you know it sounds like I John you know
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me i do not use this word lightly I
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think this sounds like a boondoggle
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seattle is so characterized by
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boondoggles that I don't even know
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anymore whether you know I have to
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really resist the impulse to start
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saying things like Seattle gets what it
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deserves because it consistently votes
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against good practical things including
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me and it boats for like a kind of rule
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by committee process that produces half
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acid- but also mega mega expensive half
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acid- so it's like okay we've got the
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train which wich strokes like in
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nineteen visit rain feels like no I
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gotta tell you what you're saying like
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the outline of that is old trains trains
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are great subways are great
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yeah exactly it sounds to me like
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they're very attracted to these novel
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solutions that don't actually address
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the problem and here's the thing i feel
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like in 1967 when we when we proposed
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building a network of subways here and
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it was voted down by the voters in 1967
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if we had used the technology available
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to us at the time to build a subway
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network we would have built up a
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perfectly good network of interconnected
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trains using 1967 technology we could
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have done it using 1912 technology and
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built up built a workable system but
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what ends up happening out here is that
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we don't do it don't do it don't do it
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and then when it's finally time to do it
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we decide on the one hand that that the
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people who are pushing for the subway
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are the people who are like still mad
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that we didn't do it 50 years ago so so
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in a way the plan is based on this like
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almost retro desire to do
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have to finally have the thing that we
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should have had but then other people
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attach themselves to it who are who are
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like well you know what tunnel drilling
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technology has really improved in the
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last 40 years and now we can build the
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real technologically advanced super
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version of this thing and so what was
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cool and quaint and good about the idea
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thing where it's like well modern
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technology requires that we put this
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thing's 500 feet underground which means
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that every time we build the station it
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cost another billion dollars so in order
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to keep prices down we can't build that
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many stations so we're only gonna have
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one station and it's going to be 500
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feet underground indefinitely
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suddenly you're so many intellectual and
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practical steps away from a good idea
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yeah but it's still it's still kind of a
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good idea it's just there each one of
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those steps took off like twenty to
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fifty percent of the coolness
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yeah the coolness of the technology now
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is dictating the usefulness of the train
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which is only useful if it is accessible
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like we'll wait a moment like like I
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don't even know if I would ever take the
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stairs but I'd like there to be some
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that's just a comfort level thing I you
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know like I'd like to Baja to smell the
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fresh air
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I look up and see the daylight even from
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500 feet below like but they're like
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well you have to be a raging
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claustrophobic to find that a little bit
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unsettling
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oh my god or just get out you know I
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don't want to get on an elevator unless
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I really really have to let alone if
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that's my concentration three stories i
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will almost always take the steps
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yeah and that's the thing this the
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subway is not fewer than three stories
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and secondly since a couple there i
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don't know this is the same station but
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it looks like it's about i would
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estimate three others were 46 stories
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and 100 stories 300 this
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100 stories down three to seven hundred
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stories everything is you know that just
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the spitball to be against it to be
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getting nowhere but i don't think that
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that is that the mighty this other 1i
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sent you to who
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there's something look like they have
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escalators it's hard to do a podcast and
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you extensive internet research who
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Westhead house I think that you're
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looking this one that has no no see
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that's beacon hill so that's not even
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that's not the one the big wide one what
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is that construction of a brand-new
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someone that's the University of
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Washington so what you're looking for is
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the capitol hill station
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okay and I think you will find see that
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this this this one that you sent me from
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the University of Washington that looks
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like a decent subway station it's like
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45 stories underground got some elevator
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sure but they're escalators to the
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beacon hill one does not have well let's
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let's try to chase though the CD current
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number and see I'm trying to get
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thinking here of like the way that they
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built the essential subway system in san
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francisco and how even today people
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laugh at that because it's a diagonal
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line like that's the subways but but it
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actually does it is it does serve a
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purpose i mean it is extremely busy
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during the day and the stops are pretty
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saying like but they move a lot of
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people over that whatever that 22 23
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miles and it does it
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I can't imagine not having it because
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now I mean now they're like try to get
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less and less stuff on market street
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because it's such a shitshow on market
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street right now i mean i think they
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recently passed a law about wasn't no
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private cars during the day or something
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you can't like make a left turn on there
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anyway there's all kinds of things are
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trying to do with that what a mess
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I mean it's all it's all a mess and I
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and I really don't wanna I don't wanna
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to slip into this posture of like
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Seattle just
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seattle just deserve what it gets
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because because something about the
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process of making decisions here is so
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irretrievably broken and has been for so
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long that it's just it's baked into it
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you know like you cannot propose
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something good here without it being
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not not by any one person not by the
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big-money interests but just by a
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collective action of people here that
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that that combination of like a busybody
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NIMBY Democrat yeah I don't like this
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person already you know what I mean like
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they just everybody's got to have
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everybody's gotta stand up at the public
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meeting and say their two cents and and
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and yet you know there's it never gets
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like at the end of the meeting they just
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adjourn until the next meeting no
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decision ever really gets made until
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it's just too late and then the decision
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gets made by somebody in you know by
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some buddy in an office somewhere who
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just had to you know just had to choose
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because the their breaking ground
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tomorrow i don't know i don't understand
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how how we could be on the one hand in
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this town screaming at each other about
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density and affordability and on the
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other hand to square blocks of
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businesses in the very central core of
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Capitol Hill have been reduced to an
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elevator shaft and there's no you know
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and and it's nobody's fault right
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there's nobody to point out and say what
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were you thinking
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why do what was there a public comment
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process
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oh yes there was 46 years we took public
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comments
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it's like oh can I see a record of those
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comments and you know it's like six
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years they held hearings where people in
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tin foil hats with like a like a dog in
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the front basket of their bike stood up
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and yelled about chemtrails
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and the city peep the city and county
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administrator's SAT there and took it
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never never hammered the gavel down
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never said this is not a productive
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process they just SAT and listened all
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those public comments and then they
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decided then you know they went back to
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their officer like you know we need an
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elevator shaft would not be cool and
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thinking about planning for the future
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mean this is a lot of instant
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restructure too so I guess you already
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said this sort of but it's a lot of
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infrastructure that will end up
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committing you to an increasingly costly
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and not very flexible way of growing
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system has no matter what you do it's
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gonna have to be 25 stories underground
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and disruptive to everything above it
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and then make an elevator nipple
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yep yep
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now if I were in charge em I would have
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just left that swords and butane lighter
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store because eternal flame
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well yeah because you can get your he
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could get your horoscope and a little
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scroll there after you about your magic
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gathering cards you could go over and
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and get some essential oils and filters
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for your faucet quote-unquote faucet
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filters
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that's right that's right that's right
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it's a water pipe personal package back
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only to see the sign
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yeah look at the sign that says right
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there we're going to open a restaurant
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you and me
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yeah I feel like opening a restaurant I
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feel like this is this is something i've
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been saying to my friends for many many
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years which is if you don't like working
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in a restaurant is the briefs the
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problem
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yeah why would you open a restaurant
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you're just giving yourself a job
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working in a restaurant cake we pay
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someone else to open a restaurant I feel
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like making food and selling food here's
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the only way to do it is to sell one
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thing which is to sell gourmet corn dogs
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ok if you become the gourmet corn dog
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king and all you sell his gourmet
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corndogs and let's say one of the things
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chocolate milkshakes gourmet corndogs
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and chocolate conversations all you sell
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yeah then you don't have to worry about
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anything you have to pickle anything you
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don't have to explain your menu to
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anybody
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gourmet corn dogs are expensive because
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they say gourmet so you can sure you can
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charge a lot more you can actually
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profit from your job right you can sell
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a gourmet corndog for what eight bucks
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what if we had a just what if we had six
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kinds of sauces and then some bread
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hmm so-so we call Johnny sauce and
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coming Johnny sauce Asian sauce really
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all about the sauce get a flight of
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sauces and whatever fucking bread nobody
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really cares it just is what it is
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locally sourced from a gravy
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what are the six sources of the six out
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of the wood called the parent sauces the
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God sauces
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yeah but you gotta best male pop you got
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ravioli owes what's your top sauce with
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my top sauce
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what's the tops off that at the six
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sauce at the top of the sauce chain
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yeah she said no sauce on top chef not
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too long ago and I don't remember them i
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think bolin 8-spoke mazes the top sauce
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that's that's a media tomato sauce
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yeah but it's more meat than tomato
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that's right cool isn't it
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see we can work all this out johnny
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sauces you come on in there and it's
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mostly about the sauce you get a cup of
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sauce and then maybe the spoons are made
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out of bread bread spoons
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you're right and we started this
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business I don't have three what they're
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gluten-free uh I guess they could just
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they could just use a actually usable
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spoon you know computing overusing just
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stick with the corn dogs but now
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yeah that's right gourmet corn dog how
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much would you pay for a gourmet
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coordinate tonight except a 675 what if
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it was nine bucks sure it's kind of the
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sauce that comes with the ramekin of
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homemade ketchup idea that pickled
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cucumbers know what gourmet corndog
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chocolate shake those are your options
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alright i'm in i guess would you spend
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nine dollars on a gourmet corner how
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gourmet would have to be I would try it
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at least once i would have to know to a
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fair certainty that Dad that it did his
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artisanal ingredients and I'm just some
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kind of a switcheroo know the hot dog is
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made a all locally sourced from within a
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hundred miles of here okay
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in court the cornmeal that goes into the
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corn dog part is from non-gmo corn
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that's heritage corn all heritage going
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against got everybody's got good
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insurance if any range farmers that's
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right native american heritage corn maze
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runners it's fried in artisanal pork fat
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which is then used to power the food
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truck that's right the pork fat is it's
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a it's bio diesel truck uh-huh and then
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the chocolate milkshake is made out of
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100-percent sustainably sourced cocoa
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where we have relationships with all
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those farmers all the cocoa farmers and
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I are you or is probably going to be me
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we have to go down to Central America
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all the time and meet with them your
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daughter could drive there
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that's right we'll drive there in our
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Jeep all that stuff shade-grown mm okay
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i was gonna say anything
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yeah and then we know we know the milk
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producers and and the cows all have
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names on Luisa that's right this is
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Luis's that today we're drinking Louise
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shakes asses and and you know and then
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the milkshakes are also nine dollars
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not exactly what I had in mind but i
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would i would invest in / eat there
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sometimes I would I would you would
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invest though that's what really matters
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not a lot don't have a lot of dough but
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i would put something into that you
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really care about is a passion project
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for John you can put you know what you
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could drive this up right next to the
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elevator nipple
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mm I feel like no I'm not passionate
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about this i feel that i do not want to
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be in the food service business I don't
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want to work at the shop and all I don't
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want to I mean I don't even want to sell
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vintage menswear which is a thing I
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actually am passionate about because I
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think I would be disappointed everyday
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guy would come in I see this all the
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time guy comes into the shop looking
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around I go hey how you doing nice to
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you know I caa1 looking for today
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just browsing ok the guy takes a jacket
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down off the rack and I kind of stand up
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from my stool and I go oh that's a cool
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jacket a Kennedy administration it's
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sold by by a kind of a venerable let the
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guys already paying it back up
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yeah I'm like okay so sit back down and
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look at the internet for a while and he
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walks around he picks up a thing and I
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see and i'm really into this and I stand
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up and go home
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wow did very nice choice like you have a
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really good I that is a pair of court
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upon Alton's but you know sold by brooks
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brothers and he puts him down and
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wanders around and then he comes and I'm
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just like Jesus question the bunny and I
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sit down on the stool again and then he
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comes over and he buys you know like a
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pair of chinese-made socks that i'm
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selling just because i have to you know
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I have to have something in there that
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actually sells and win Leiter cases
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yeah or then he comes off as i can use
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about through or whatever and I'm just
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like how nobody gives a shit about the
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stuff that I care about and and I have
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and I'm here to serve them perhaps
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already says anything about hugo boss
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and aren't something like that where I'm
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like oh fuck you know get out of here
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hit the streets
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mhm you're right it's a recipe for
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heartbreak
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that's the thing i don't need to be any
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more sad know
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