Roderick on the Line

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00:00:32 ◼   ► hello I John hi Merlin how's it going [TS]

00:00:36 ◼   ► good [TS]

00:00:38 ◼   ► happy slightly belated birthday [TS]

00:00:41 ◼   ► oh thank you text you on the day but you [TS]

00:00:44 ◼   ► know you did [TS]

00:00:45 ◼   ► yeah how Janet birthday how did I have a [TS]

00:00:48 ◼   ► good birthday i'm sorry i'll take to a [TS]

00:00:50 ◼   ► good birthday I did I you know I'm not a [TS]

00:00:56 ◼   ► I'm not a big birthday celebrate ur but [TS]

00:01:00 ◼   ► I have a family but who care about you [TS]

00:01:04 ◼   ► so I'm obligated [TS]

00:01:05 ◼   ► yeah to allow them to celebrate me and [TS]

00:01:10 ◼   ► grudgingly celebrated so I do i submit [TS]

00:01:14 ◼   ► to being celebrated but I was you know I [TS]

00:01:18 ◼   ► was in Portland one of my one of my [TS]

00:01:20 ◼   ► favorite northwestern rivertown your [TS]

00:01:24 ◼   ► important portland oregon nice and there [TS]

00:01:29 ◼   ► and then there's in the middle of the [TS]

00:01:30 ◼   ► XOXO festival [TS]

00:01:32 ◼   ► how was that oh it was fun and I go to [TS]

00:01:35 ◼   ► that you did it [TS]

00:01:36 ◼   ► oh my god I totally did you did in fact [TS]

00:01:39 ◼   ► I saw you in person ate ramen with you [TS]

00:01:41 ◼   ► real life Merlin man i saw just a couple [TS]

00:01:45 ◼   ► of days ago [TS]

00:01:47 ◼   ► not only did I cmi pingdom boo couple of [TS]

00:01:51 ◼   ► times we had a high-level conversation [TS]

00:01:53 ◼   ► in a hotel lobby [TS]

00:01:55 ◼   ► we did we did we did have Robin we saw a [TS]

00:01:59 ◼   ► lot of internet people oh my god so many [TS]

00:02:02 ◼   ► internet people who us [TS]

00:02:05 ◼   ► I won't talk about that I'm so [TS]

00:02:06 ◼   ► overwhelmed a very nice man gave me a [TS]

00:02:08 ◼   ► very nice book stories who gave me a [TS]

00:02:14 ◼   ► book and you say he's a use a wonderful [TS]

00:02:18 ◼   ► fellow from baltimore he gave me a book [TS]

00:02:21 ◼   ► he said I thought that you would like [TS]

00:02:22 ◼   ► this book it was wrapped in brown paper [TS]

00:02:25 ◼   ► with type of the string like like he was [TS]

00:02:29 ◼   ► someone who knew how to do things right [TS]

00:02:32 ◼   ► when somebody has your packages wrapped [TS]

00:02:34 ◼   ► very nicely in brown paper you're like [TS]

00:02:36 ◼   ► oh you know how to do things i totally [TS]

00:02:40 ◼   ► agree i think if somebody gives you [TS]

00:02:41 ◼   ► something it should be wrapped in brown [TS]

00:02:42 ◼   ► paper probably with string because [TS]

00:02:44 ◼   ► nobody needs to know what's in there [TS]

00:02:46 ◼   ► you have an easy especially if it's a [TS]

00:02:48 ◼   ► gift you don't know what it is you know [TS]

00:02:50 ◼   ► you should be able to open that in your [TS]

00:02:51 ◼   ► repose that's exactly right and I was [TS]

00:02:54 ◼   ► sitting I was sitting later at a table [TS]

00:02:56 ◼   ► with the the armaments Marco and Tiffany [TS]

00:03:00 ◼   ► and with the biorhythms missed math love [TS]

00:03:05 ◼   ► that guy and a couple of Andy's various [TS]

00:03:10 ◼   ► Andy's 1 and e 1 and e in particular on [TS]

00:03:14 ◼   ► XOXO Andy and and I had this this [TS]

00:03:18 ◼   ► package wrapped with brown paper and [TS]

00:03:21 ◼   ► they were all speculating what it was [TS]

00:03:23 ◼   ► and I didn't have to reveal and then [TS]

00:03:26 ◼   ► there was some talk about like maybe he [TS]

00:03:28 ◼   ► just came with a with a book in a brown [TS]

00:03:30 ◼   ► paper wrapper and he was just waiting [TS]

00:03:32 ◼   ► for somebody to give it to and I said no [TS]

00:03:35 ◼   ► well or maybe there's a card in here [TS]

00:03:37 ◼   ► addressed to me with a nice note and [TS]

00:03:40 ◼   ► they're like probably not probably just [TS]

00:03:41 ◼   ► walked around with a book and then he he [TS]

00:03:44 ◼   ► figured out to give it to somebody [TS]

00:03:46 ◼   ► let's speculate you know you're under no [TS]

00:03:48 ◼   ► obligation to break the tension [TS]

00:03:50 ◼   ► yeah I said I guess you'll never know [TS]

00:03:52 ◼   ► but in fact there was a nice note [TS]

00:03:57 ◼   ► yeah the book is called so jesus i was i [TS]

00:04:02 ◼   ► I've been thinking about it all the last [TS]

00:04:05 ◼   ► day [TS]

00:04:07 ◼   ► it's called low freaking frag remember [TS]

00:04:12 ◼   ► it [TS]

00:04:12 ◼   ► yeah it's one of those book titles like [TS]

00:04:14 ◼   ► that down the street here there's a [TS]

00:04:16 ◼   ► railroad well there's a rail road here [TS]

00:04:20 ◼   ► in Seattle her sort of a famous one [TS]

00:04:23 ◼   ► Burlington Northern and they bought the [TS]

00:04:26 ◼   ► Santa Fe Railroad not very long ago [TS]

00:04:28 ◼   ► well a long time ago and now it's called [TS]

00:04:30 ◼   ► the Burlington Northern Santa Fe but [TS]

00:04:32 ◼   ► they have a system where they park their [TS]

00:04:34 ◼   ► locomotives way out by the airport then [TS]

00:04:38 ◼   ► they drive people to drive the engineers [TS]

00:04:41 ◼   ► and the brakeman in the I guess the old [TS]

00:04:43 ◼   ► shovelers they drive out there in vans [TS]

00:04:47 ◼   ► and the company that owns the Vans is [TS]

00:04:51 ◼   ► called something like transportation [TS]

00:04:56 ◼   ► company limited it looks like an FBI van [TS]

00:05:00 ◼   ► that and I'm like transportation company [TS]

00:05:04 ◼   ► is really only it's called professional [TS]

00:05:05 ◼   ► transportation items that sounds [TS]

00:05:07 ◼   ► completely made up and I was like that's [TS]

00:05:09 ◼   ► not real and I and I I i took the time [TS]

00:05:13 ◼   ► to google it like a professional [TS]

00:05:14 ◼   ► transportation inc really and it was [TS]

00:05:18 ◼   ► like / yes professional transportation [TS]

00:05:20 ◼   ► inc is really what it's called and it's [TS]

00:05:21 ◼   ► owned by it's a subsidiary of like a [TS]

00:05:25 ◼   ► company incorporated or like business [TS]

00:05:28 ◼   ► business enterprise incorporated I'm [TS]

00:05:31 ◼   ► just like this [TS]

00:05:33 ◼   ► the people that work for railroads need [TS]

00:05:35 ◼   ► to jazz up their game a little bit yeah [TS]

00:05:38 ◼   ► but this book that he gave me has a [TS]

00:05:40 ◼   ► similar title it's like systems design [TS]

00:05:46 ◼   ► systems [TS]

00:05:47 ◼   ► pink is it really big [TS]

00:05:50 ◼   ► it's a very big book is it design [TS]

00:05:52 ◼   ► patterns is it design patterns that the [TS]

00:05:55 ◼   ► name of the book let me design it for [TS]

00:05:58 ◼   ► somebody like a really really big book [TS]

00:06:00 ◼   ► about how you make spaces [TS]

00:06:02 ◼   ► it's a very big book about spaces might [TS]

00:06:08 ◼   ► be different patterns which is a very [TS]

00:06:09 ◼   ► good book but it's from its from the 786 [TS]

00:06:12 ◼   ► from the seventies it's probably is [TS]

00:06:14 ◼   ► probably a book called design patterns [TS]

00:06:16 ◼   ► it's really really famous you are [TS]

00:06:17 ◼   ► familiar with this but I have a copy of [TS]

00:06:19 ◼   ► it it's really as well as if it's the 1 [TS]

00:06:21 ◼   ► i'm thinking of its really it's like a [TS]

00:06:23 ◼   ► like a really simple looking cover and [TS]

00:06:25 ◼   ► Christopher Christopher forget him he's [TS]

00:06:27 ◼   ► the guy who invented the idea of design [TS]

00:06:29 ◼   ► patterns design patterns [TS]

00:06:30 ◼   ► yeah which are now huge in all kinds of [TS]

00:06:32 ◼   ► disciplines and it's a really really [TS]

00:06:34 ◼   ► interesting book because it's really [TS]

00:06:36 ◼   ► more evil you it's like reading a [TS]

00:06:37 ◼   ► cookbook you wouldn't read it it's all [TS]

00:06:39 ◼   ► the way through it's more like a [TS]

00:06:40 ◼   ► reference book and it's got things like [TS]

00:06:42 ◼   ► you know this place to sit by a window [TS]

00:06:44 ◼   ► like that's a pattern like you know [TS]

00:06:46 ◼   ► having these having closely grouped [TS]

00:06:48 ◼   ► houses with access to retail and things [TS]

00:06:53 ◼   ► like that it's all these ideas the [TS]

00:06:54 ◼   ► things that tend to work when we make [TS]

00:06:56 ◼   ► public and private places so you are [TS]

00:06:59 ◼   ► describing exactly what this book is but [TS]

00:07:01 ◼   ► i have just looked up the book design [TS]

00:07:03 ◼   ► patterns on the internet and that is a [TS]

00:07:07 ◼   ► book [TS]

00:07:07 ◼   ► subtitled elements of reusable [TS]

00:07:09 ◼   ► object-oriented software [TS]

00:07:12 ◼   ► well yes that and it does not look like [TS]

00:07:16 ◼   ► the book that i have Christopher [TS]

00:07:18 ◼   ► Alexander oh sorry to be a pattern [TS]

00:07:21 ◼   ► language foreign language now we're [TS]

00:07:23 ◼   ► talking about the book a pattern link so [TS]

00:07:26 ◼   ► its first hehe first use it to talk [TS]

00:07:28 ◼   ► about architecture and communities and [TS]

00:07:30 ◼   ► it's super interesting book and yes what [TS]

00:07:32 ◼   ► you're describing has been its today I [TS]

00:07:35 ◼   ► would say arguably more famous for its [TS]

00:07:37 ◼   ► use in software design [TS]

00:07:41 ◼   ► I mean roughly speaking of design [TS]

00:07:42 ◼   ► pattern i've heard it described as [TS]

00:07:44 ◼   ► designed a pattern is this a is method [TS]

00:07:48 ◼   ► that you know tends to work for in [TS]

00:07:51 ◼   ► certain contexts and then you also have [TS]

00:07:52 ◼   ► your anti-patterns right you ever use [TS]

00:07:54 ◼   ► that phrase anti-pattern an anti-pattern [TS]

00:07:57 ◼   ► is something that seems like it works [TS]

00:07:58 ◼   ► for seems like it would work but doesn't [TS]

00:08:00 ◼   ► actually work [TS]

00:08:01 ◼   ► oh there are so many of them all man [TS]

00:08:03 ◼   ► this book is good this you talk about [TS]

00:08:04 ◼   ► this is this is maybe one of the [TS]

00:08:05 ◼   ► original great thought technologies [TS]

00:08:07 ◼   ► it's really good well I'm just thumbing [TS]

00:08:09 ◼   ► through it I was like oh I'm very [TS]

00:08:10 ◼   ► interested in that I'm very interested [TS]

00:08:12 ◼   ► in that and i'm also very interested in [TS]

00:08:14 ◼   ► that so unless and really just for what [TS]

00:08:17 ◼   ► it's worth you might want to go check [TS]

00:08:17 ◼   ► that's a very costly book i received it [TS]

00:08:19 ◼   ► as a gift as well it's a very costly [TS]

00:08:21 ◼   ► book I'm i couldn't be more thrilled you [TS]

00:08:23 ◼   ► know I got I got another book while I [TS]

00:08:25 ◼   ► was down in portland now and I saw that [TS]

00:08:26 ◼   ► two very very thick have to go the [TS]

00:08:29 ◼   ► orange room or the purple room or the [TS]

00:08:30 ◼   ► Pearl room to pick it up [TS]

00:08:32 ◼   ► well so we were in the gold room for a [TS]

00:08:33 ◼   ► while the purple room is where where you [TS]

00:08:35 ◼   ► spent quite a bit of time I pretty sure [TS]

00:08:38 ◼   ► to where I'm going I picked up the book [TS]

00:08:40 ◼   ► somewhere and the pink pink we have to [TS]

00:08:43 ◼   ► go to IDC us top floor were only cranky [TS]

00:08:45 ◼   ► people work right that's right that's [TS]

00:08:47 ◼   ► right where the carpeting stopped and [TS]

00:08:49 ◼   ► then all of a sudden it was just metal [TS]

00:08:50 ◼   ► doors clanging that's one of my favorite [TS]

00:08:52 ◼   ► shel silverstein books for the carpet [TS]

00:08:55 ◼   ► and ok if you don't eat [TS]

00:08:58 ◼   ► oh oh yeah called brazilian lose them [TS]

00:09:02 ◼   ► uh you're gonna I think that is a book [TS]

00:09:05 ◼   ► that you don't oversell it but it's a [TS]

00:09:08 ◼   ► book he might find rather absorbing what [TS]

00:09:10 ◼   ► you know so I've been curating several [TS]

00:09:13 ◼   ► libraries as you know and the one I've [TS]

00:09:16 ◼   ► been spending the most time on recently [TS]

00:09:18 ◼   ► has been the library for [TS]

00:09:20 ◼   ► the downstairs bathroom oh wow and the [TS]

00:09:23 ◼   ► library on for the downstairs bathroom [TS]

00:09:25 ◼   ► now has sort of matured and I feel like [TS]

00:09:28 ◼   ► if you if you spend any time in the [TS]

00:09:32 ◼   ► downstairs bathroom at my house you are [TS]

00:09:33 ◼   ► going to find something that's the one [TS]

00:09:36 ◼   ► in the back by the kitchen that's what [TS]

00:09:38 ◼   ► that's one of the back by the kitchen [TS]

00:09:39 ◼   ► you're going to find something to engage [TS]

00:09:41 ◼   ► you and thrill you in the downstairs [TS]

00:09:45 ◼   ► bathroom library but i feel like that I [TS]

00:09:47 ◼   ► feel like that library is complete now [TS]

00:09:50 ◼   ► this this new set of books is definitely [TS]

00:09:56 ◼   ► like I'm afraid that they're both a [TS]

00:09:58 ◼   ► little too heady for the the night table [TS]

00:10:03 ◼   ► I think it's gonna be hard to sit up in [TS]

00:10:05 ◼   ► bed and read either one of these books [TS]

00:10:07 ◼   ► to the way six pounds and you know like [TS]

00:10:11 ◼   ► this is the this is the problem with [TS]

00:10:13 ◼   ► this kind of book right you know it's [TS]

00:10:14 ◼   ► not a thing that you read to put [TS]

00:10:16 ◼   ► yourself to sleep you have to state give [TS]

00:10:19 ◼   ► to stay focused you have to read them [TS]

00:10:22 ◼   ► with good posture who so i feel like its [TS]

00:10:26 ◼   ► back [TS]

00:10:26 ◼   ► these are both going to end up in the [TS]

00:10:27 ◼   ► kitchen library who this might be like [TS]

00:10:31 ◼   ► wow [TS]

00:10:32 ◼   ► while pasta is boiling the override are [TS]

00:10:34 ◼   ► sitting at the dining room table with [TS]

00:10:37 ◼   ► the with a mug of something you know [TS]

00:10:39 ◼   ► fall is here [TS]

00:10:41 ◼   ► mhm I was once i was i was actually with [TS]

00:10:43 ◼   ► tiff tiff tore my outfit apart [TS]

00:10:46 ◼   ► what oh yeah well first of all as you [TS]

00:10:48 ◼   ► know I was way overdressed in terms of [TS]

00:10:50 ◼   ► layers for all that was warm it was Jane [TS]

00:10:53 ◼   ► she she gave me a like a pretty serious [TS]

00:10:56 ◼   ► browbeating for wearing a penalty in [TS]

00:10:57 ◼   ► shirt was 84 and pointed out that my [TS]

00:10:59 ◼   ► clocks were made of suede and that's [TS]

00:11:01 ◼   ► actually a fall shoe [TS]

00:11:02 ◼   ► she's right about the suede Clark's but [TS]

00:11:05 ◼   ► i but I feel like later days coming on [TS]

00:11:08 ◼   ► what she doesn't understand about the [TS]

00:11:09 ◼   ► northwest is that the Pendleton shirt is [TS]

00:11:12 ◼   ► a year-round shirt because the wool [TS]

00:11:15 ◼   ► really breathe who and and we just where [TS]

00:11:19 ◼   ► the wall all year even when it's 92 an [TS]

00:11:21 ◼   ► executive assistant it's always there [TS]

00:11:23 ◼   ► yeah she's from the east coast they have [TS]

00:11:26 ◼   ► different ideas about things [TS]

00:11:27 ◼   ► Oh John have so many different ideas [TS]

00:11:29 ◼   ► about things there [TS]

00:11:30 ◼   ► you know what I mean like they are [TS]

00:11:32 ◼   ► probably what she probably has something [TS]

00:11:34 ◼   ► to say about ultra suede and I don't [TS]

00:11:36 ◼   ► even a know what ultrasuede is now and [TS]

00:11:39 ◼   ► be could not tell you a single time when [TS]

00:11:41 ◼   ► you are meant to wear ultrasuede is [TS]

00:11:43 ◼   ► ultra suede suede as pleather is the [TS]

00:11:46 ◼   ► leather I think you know my mom from [TS]

00:11:49 ◼   ► Ohio used to have all kinds of things to [TS]

00:11:51 ◼   ► say about ultra suede and I guess [TS]

00:11:54 ◼   ► to my eternal shame I tuned it all out [TS]

00:11:57 ◼   ► because now i don't i still don't know [TS]

00:11:59 ◼   ► what it is i think it is a manufactured [TS]

00:12:01 ◼   ► suede it sounds like a band from about [TS]

00:12:04 ◼   ► Oh wouldn't that have been a good to bad [TS]

00:12:06 ◼   ► about that other band name suede but [TS]

00:12:08 ◼   ► that doesn't dissuade most of you who [TS]

00:12:11 ◼   ► like to copy old band names including [TS]

00:12:14 ◼   ► bands in the northwest who have called [TS]

00:12:16 ◼   ► themselves western state huh [TS]

00:12:20 ◼   ► even though i already had a popular band [TS]

00:12:22 ◼   ► called me and said hurricane you you're [TS]

00:12:24 ◼   ► almost on the label [TS]

00:12:25 ◼   ► we're almost on a label there are bad [TS]

00:12:28 ◼   ► there's a band called a long winter [TS]

00:12:30 ◼   ► yeah and I think there are metal band i [TS]

00:12:33 ◼   ► know that that's long winters stare LOL [TS]

00:12:36 ◼   ► ok yeah cuz I used to find out we call [TS]

00:12:38 ◼   ► it the namespace pollution is to find it [TS]

00:12:40 ◼   ► difficult to find you and miss the [TS]

00:12:42 ◼   ► amongst many other Long's and winters's [TS]

00:12:44 ◼   ► yeah so long winters stare was actually [TS]

00:12:47 ◼   ► a fairly like a prog metal band or [TS]

00:12:50 ◼   ► something they were above a a viable [TS]

00:12:53 ◼   ► metal band for a time in mind but and we [TS]

00:12:57 ◼   ► may even have enough for a time we may [TS]

00:12:59 ◼   ► even have intruded on their space [TS]

00:13:01 ◼   ► because they may have pre-existed the [TS]

00:13:03 ◼   ► long winters [TS]

00:13:04 ◼   ► uh-huh so i may be on stick thin ice [TS]

00:13:07 ◼   ► here complaining about this this [TS]

00:13:11 ◼   ► pollution that you're talking about but [TS]

00:13:12 ◼   ► then later on another band some other [TS]

00:13:15 ◼   ► like dumb non-viable indie rock band [TS]

00:13:18 ◼   ► called themselves a long winter or and [TS]

00:13:23 ◼   ► that forced me forced me over to get a [TS]

00:13:27 ◼   ► copyright attorney and to register the [TS]

00:13:31 ◼   ► trademark the long winter which then a [TS]

00:13:37 ◼   ► cost me a lot of money be caused me to [TS]

00:13:40 ◼   ► have to deal with attorneys [TS]

00:13:41 ◼   ► yep [TS]

00:13:42 ◼   ► including copyright attorney is Jonathan [TS]

00:13:44 ◼   ► I could say it's it's a kind of meal [TS]

00:13:45 ◼   ► I've had copyrights it is costly does [TS]

00:13:48 ◼   ► take attorneys and then you gotta update [TS]

00:13:49 ◼   ► them and keep all they read made such a [TS]

00:13:51 ◼   ► bunch of baloney but this updating its [TS]

00:13:54 ◼   ► just like a the biggest deal of all like [TS]

00:13:56 ◼   ► well you've been pouring money into this [TS]

00:13:59 ◼   ► thing is it's one of those things it's [TS]

00:14:01 ◼   ► like my my late great friend Leslie Hart [TS]

00:14:03 ◼   ► police to say I don't like buying toys [TS]

00:14:04 ◼   ► for my toys in this case like I don't [TS]

00:14:06 ◼   ► have to buy phone and in a case and then [TS]

00:14:08 ◼   ► a cable and all that stuff [TS]

00:14:09 ◼   ► ultimate heels right and in this case [TS]

00:14:10 ◼   ► what is a copywriting a copyright thing [TS]

00:14:12 ◼   ► is something that enables you to have a [TS]

00:14:14 ◼   ► standing in costly lawsuits that you [TS]

00:14:16 ◼   ► can't afford that's right and saying [TS]

00:14:19 ◼   ► it's like it's like the cover fee after [TS]

00:14:21 ◼   ► 15 years of paying these lawyers to [TS]

00:14:23 ◼   ► basically file a piece of paper that any [TS]

00:14:26 ◼   ► idiot could do but that I just didn't [TS]

00:14:29 ◼   ► want to do myself for that you know [TS]

00:14:31 ◼   ► maybe it's impossible to do [TS]

00:14:33 ◼   ► who knows doesn't seem like it should be [TS]

00:14:36 ◼   ► but they have the they have although [TS]

00:14:38 ◼   ► they have all that bad that Bank of [TS]

00:14:40 ◼   ► switches at that every lawyer has the [TS]

00:14:43 ◼   ► story and they can turn on the switch [TS]

00:14:45 ◼   ► and you can't that's how they make money [TS]

00:14:46 ◼   ► is they take something really [TS]

00:14:48 ◼   ► inconvenient nobody wants to do and they [TS]

00:14:50 ◼   ► have the the knowledge and scale to did [TS]

00:14:53 ◼   ► to do it for nickels charges a whole [TS]

00:14:55 ◼   ► bunch my god bless them but then I got a [TS]

00:14:59 ◼   ► registered letter from the estate [TS]

00:15:02 ◼   ► Laura Ingalls Wilder what who you may or [TS]

00:15:07 ◼   ► may not know wrote a book called a long [TS]

00:15:09 ◼   ► winter as part of her series of books [TS]

00:15:12 ◼   ► about life on the prayer houses prairies [TS]

00:15:15 ◼   ► littleness and they said oh oopsie Daisy [TS]

00:15:20 ◼   ► we forgot to copyright a long winter [TS]

00:15:23 ◼   ► because didn't occur to us because we're [TS]

00:15:28 ◼   ► her estate and who knows who we are [TS]

00:15:30 ◼   ► we're just a room full of lawyers to but [TS]

00:15:33 ◼   ► now we're thinking of developing a long [TS]

00:15:36 ◼   ► winter her less famous book about life [TS]

00:15:39 ◼   ► on the Prairie where did think about [TS]

00:15:42 ◼   ► developing it into some various products [TS]

00:15:44 ◼   ► maybe a movie maybe you know it's [TS]

00:15:47 ◼   ► working what sort of the marvel universe [TS]

00:15:49 ◼   ► except it's the Laurel angle wider [TS]

00:15:51 ◼   ► Wilders universe and we want to make [TS]

00:15:54 ◼   ► sure that we have the [TS]

00:15:55 ◼   ► sorry something imagine say we describe [TS]

00:15:58 ◼   ► the marvel universe of the DC universe [TS]

00:16:00 ◼   ► huh yeah that's right in there like and [TS]

00:16:03 ◼   ► they honestly said in this letter you [TS]

00:16:05 ◼   ► know we don't think that there will be [TS]

00:16:07 ◼   ► any confusion between a long winter and [TS]

00:16:11 ◼   ► the long winters so we're just hoping [TS]

00:16:15 ◼   ► that you won't mind as the cover over it [TS]

00:16:19 ◼   ► we just avoid any unpleasantness [TS]

00:16:21 ◼   ► that's right let's avoid any [TS]

00:16:23 ◼   ► unpleasantness what will it take for you [TS]

00:16:26 ◼   ► to not mind but then they proceeded to [TS]

00:16:31 ◼   ► list some of the other things that they [TS]

00:16:32 ◼   ► wanted to do is they were exploring the [TS]

00:16:34 ◼   ► the new a Wilder universe which was [TS]

00:16:36 ◼   ► maybe we'll do a Broadway show a long [TS]

00:16:40 ◼   ► winter [TS]

00:16:40 ◼   ► oh now it's like the Apple problem no [TS]

00:16:43 ◼   ► they get into music that's right and I'm [TS]

00:16:44 ◼   ► like whoa whoa whoa i was thinking about [TS]

00:16:47 ◼   ► doing a lower Broadway show what if i [TS]

00:16:49 ◼   ► wanted to do a Broadway show me tell you [TS]

00:16:51 ◼   ► Wilders and Engels is I'm thinking about [TS]

00:16:52 ◼   ► doing a lot of stuff that's right and [TS]

00:16:54 ◼   ► they were like what if we had a Broadway [TS]

00:16:56 ◼   ► show that had a sound track record what [TS]

00:16:59 ◼   ► if it was a musical set on the prairie [TS]

00:17:01 ◼   ► and so then my team of lawyers who had [TS]

00:17:05 ◼   ► been sitting dormant inside their [TS]

00:17:08 ◼   ► chrysalis their Christmas you know [TS]

00:17:12 ◼   ► struggle to open on stage and they [TS]

00:17:14 ◼   ► inside and they're trying to play the [TS]

00:17:16 ◼   ► baseball while but eventually they were [TS]

00:17:20 ◼   ► animated and said well if you listen the [TS]

00:17:24 ◼   ► state of of famous american author if [TS]

00:17:28 ◼   ► you want to use a long winter [TS]

00:17:31 ◼   ► you're gonna have to talk to us here [TS]

00:17:33 ◼   ► have to come through us you're going to [TS]

00:17:34 ◼   ► pay us some like fuck you amount of [TS]

00:17:37 ◼   ► money that's like getting a bodyguard [TS]

00:17:39 ◼   ► that picks fights [TS]

00:17:41 ◼   ► it's exactly what I want answers as a [TS]

00:17:43 ◼   ► man like everything's fine everything's [TS]

00:17:45 ◼   ► you know this does not need to be [TS]

00:17:46 ◼   ► complicated it's not this could this is [TS]

00:17:48 ◼   ► something you could settle with a couple [TS]

00:17:49 ◼   ► calls [TS]

00:17:50 ◼   ► yeah this is fine and you know she is a [TS]

00:17:52 ◼   ► beloved American author loved by people [TS]

00:17:55 ◼   ► everywhere I do not want i'm not the [TS]

00:17:58 ◼   ► thug in this story but I just I just got [TS]

00:18:01 ◼   ► the copyright for the band name because [TS]

00:18:03 ◼   ► of these dorks who decided to call their [TS]

00:18:06 ◼   ► band a long winter and I wanted to [TS]

00:18:08 ◼   ► to send them a letter that said hey shut [TS]

00:18:12 ◼   ► it down [TS]

00:18:13 ◼   ► dopes and now i am now I'm dealing with [TS]

00:18:18 ◼   ► the ghost of Laura Ingalls Wilder [TS]

00:18:20 ◼   ► suddenly here mr. / yeah and she and i [TS]

00:18:23 ◼   ► know i mean i presume that that estate [TS]

00:18:27 ◼   ► you know it's not like they have 500 [TS]

00:18:30 ◼   ► million dollars who write I don't even [TS]

00:18:32 ◼   ► think they have 50 million dollars [TS]

00:18:34 ◼   ► I would be surprised if they had five [TS]

00:18:36 ◼   ► million dollars she had got to be no way [TS]

00:18:40 ◼   ► I'm sorry her stuff came out here's 10 [TS]

00:18:42 ◼   ► the long winter novel came out in 1940 [TS]

00:18:45 ◼   ► so it's still in copyright still in [TS]

00:18:47 ◼   ► copyright i think yeah but i had the [TS]

00:18:50 ◼   ► trade markers all right you know who [TS]

00:18:52 ◼   ► knows he knows it's but they sought I [TS]

00:18:57 ◼   ► think they actually before they sent me [TS]

00:18:59 ◼   ► that letter they saw that I owned it and [TS]

00:19:02 ◼   ► went before a hearing officer of some [TS]

00:19:05 ◼   ► kind and said this isn't a problem right [TS]

00:19:08 ◼   ► we had this thing is he came along as [TS]

00:19:11 ◼   ► that thing this isn't this is an issue [TS]

00:19:12 ◼   ► and the hearing officer said actually it [TS]

00:19:15 ◼   ► is it is a story it could be or it could [TS]

00:19:18 ◼   ► be right [TS]

00:19:19 ◼   ► you don't already have the shirts [TS]

00:19:20 ◼   ► printed up right exactly who so they [TS]

00:19:23 ◼   ► came to me all with hat in hand because [TS]

00:19:26 ◼   ► already they had talked to somebody and [TS]

00:19:31 ◼   ► so my lawyers you know they all had they [TS]

00:19:36 ◼   ► looked up from their meal of raw meat [TS]

00:19:39 ◼   ► that they were having at some giant [TS]

00:19:42 ◼   ► table in new york city and they're like [TS]

00:19:46 ◼   ► she'll you know try and join them today [TS]

00:19:50 ◼   ► what should we do master I can find many [TS]

00:19:53 ◼   ► things and that was exactly right and [TS]

00:19:56 ◼   ► also my copyright lawyers were the only [TS]

00:19:58 ◼   ► lawyer I ever had and I've had appealed [TS]

00:20:00 ◼   ► lawyers including some that were [TS]

00:20:02 ◼   ► indicted in federal court but these were [TS]

00:20:05 ◼   ► the only lawyers i had that every time [TS]

00:20:08 ◼   ► they sent me a letter [TS]

00:20:10 ◼   ► they charged me three hundred dollars [TS]

00:20:13 ◼   ► they would send me a letter saying hey [TS]

00:20:15 ◼   ► uh we don't get reluctant to respond [TS]

00:20:20 ◼   ► it's time for us to send you a letter [TS]

00:20:21 ◼   ► again here is the response generates a [TS]

00:20:23 ◼   ► bill [TS]

00:20:24 ◼   ► yeah well so yeah exactly that I didn't [TS]

00:20:26 ◼   ► even it wasn't even a response i was [TS]

00:20:28 ◼   ► just sitting there minding my own [TS]

00:20:29 ◼   ► business and they were here is a letter [TS]

00:20:30 ◼   ► and then an invoice came three hundred [TS]

00:20:32 ◼   ► dollars because we said if any invoice [TS]

00:20:34 ◼   ► for free and I would yeah i would I each [TS]

00:20:37 ◼   ► time i would call them and yell and say [TS]

00:20:38 ◼   ► you can't charge me three hundred [TS]

00:20:39 ◼   ► dollars to send me a letter and they're [TS]

00:20:42 ◼   ► like oh well you know German if I'm [TS]

00:20:44 ◼   ► gonna send you up i'm gonna forward you [TS]

00:20:46 ◼   ► over the building you know I've back and [TS]

00:20:48 ◼   ► forth back and forth a couple of those [TS]

00:20:50 ◼   ► things i got them couple of times i got [TS]

00:20:52 ◼   ► that $300 credited to me but I'm sure [TS]

00:20:54 ◼   ► that they charged me somewhere else [TS]

00:20:56 ◼   ► anyway so they were like four up for the [TS]

00:21:00 ◼   ► low low price of 12 thousand dollars [TS]

00:21:03 ◼   ► worth of registered letters we can [TS]

00:21:05 ◼   ► probably get them to give you twenty [TS]

00:21:07 ◼   ► thousand dollars for the right i mean am [TS]

00:21:12 ◼   ► I wrong it seems like to me like no no [TS]

00:21:14 ◼   ► the thing is i have a preference you not [TS]

00:21:16 ◼   ► use the name and then if you agree to [TS]

00:21:18 ◼   ► the name for what sounds like a lot of [TS]

00:21:21 ◼   ► money in that case I mean what that [TS]

00:21:22 ◼   ► think it's really huge the lawyer see it [TS]

00:21:24 ◼   ► as a here's how we get paid thing you [TS]

00:21:26 ◼   ► see it more as they don't use my thing [TS]

00:21:27 ◼   ► thing [TS]

00:21:28 ◼   ► yeah right i wasn't i didn't like [TS]

00:21:29 ◼   ► register this trademark so i could so I [TS]

00:21:32 ◼   ► could squat on it and exploit people [TS]

00:21:35 ◼   ► like me haha it's probably gonna cost [TS]

00:21:38 ◼   ► you six hundred dollars to explain that [TS]

00:21:39 ◼   ► to your lawyer's well and the exactly [TS]

00:21:41 ◼   ► and this is the babies are all these [TS]

00:21:43 ◼   ► internet squatters a ride like the [TS]

00:21:45 ◼   ► domain squatters yeah that we used to [TS]

00:21:47 ◼   ► think that was a really low class thing [TS]

00:21:50 ◼   ► to do since squad on somebody's going [TS]

00:21:52 ◼   ► over you know the way they buy patent [TS]

00:21:54 ◼   ► portfolios and just wait for somebody to [TS]

00:21:55 ◼   ► get successful and then send him a text [TS]

00:21:57 ◼   ► and say by the way you you now OS this [TS]

00:22:00 ◼   ► amount of money plus feature profits [TS]

00:22:03 ◼   ► well listen let's be honest we are [TS]

00:22:04 ◼   ► podcasting right now which is a thing [TS]

00:22:06 ◼   ► that was invented by a guy and we owe [TS]

00:22:09 ◼   ► him probably hundreds of thousands of [TS]

00:22:11 ◼   ► dollars i think they finally kind of [TS]

00:22:14 ◼   ► mostly settled that that was a huge [TS]

00:22:16 ◼   ► thing and some of our friends received [TS]

00:22:19 ◼   ► letters about that balloon the idea and [TS]

00:22:22 ◼   ► anyway there's this american life about [TS]

00:22:24 ◼   ► patent [TS]

00:22:25 ◼   ► trolling that's amazing but yeah [TS]

00:22:26 ◼   ► basically these folks around do that [TS]

00:22:29 ◼   ► they they by other people's patents so [TS]

00:22:31 ◼   ► it's not even the people who like and of [TS]

00:22:33 ◼   ► course all the patent descriptions it's [TS]

00:22:34 ◼   ► a total shitshow like all the stuff [TS]

00:22:36 ◼   ► there's all kinds of stuff that has a [TS]

00:22:38 ◼   ► patent like hyperlinks have a patent [TS]

00:22:41 ◼   ► mhm like if you make a webpage for the [TS]

00:22:43 ◼   ► link on your supposed to pay somebody [TS]

00:22:44 ◼   ► alright feliz oh absolutely and I think [TS]

00:22:47 ◼   ► if memory serves there was one that was [TS]

00:22:50 ◼   ► the the patent that was being pursued on [TS]

00:22:52 ◼   ► podcast was so asinine that if you'd [TS]

00:22:56 ◼   ► ever heard or especially if you ever [TS]

00:22:57 ◼   ► made a podcast you look at that and go [TS]

00:22:59 ◼   ► that's not this it had to do with audio [TS]

00:23:01 ◼   ► books and was this idea from like the [TS]

00:23:03 ◼   ► eighties em I mean I hold the patent for [TS]

00:23:06 ◼   ► farting in a shot glass is ahead that [TS]

00:23:09 ◼   ► right that's a bit in your portfolio and [TS]

00:23:11 ◼   ► I think people are doing that all the [TS]

00:23:12 ◼   ► time and I'm not getting any money for [TS]

00:23:14 ◼   ► it i mean i've been to Germany I know [TS]

00:23:16 ◼   ► people are farting shot glasses [TS]

00:23:17 ◼   ► worldwide and getting a fuckin sent this [TS]

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00:24:49 ◼   ► supporting Roderick on the law so [TS]

00:24:51 ◼   ► suffice to say i eventually called these [TS]

00:24:55 ◼   ► lawyers and I said seasoned assists [TS]

00:24:58 ◼   ► I'm sorry I ever engaged in this is [TS]

00:25:01 ◼   ► Laura Ingalls Wilder's a state wants to [TS]

00:25:03 ◼   ► wants to make a Broadway musical based [TS]

00:25:08 ◼   ► on the long winter [TS]

00:25:09 ◼   ► first of all Godspeed like it's gonna be [TS]

00:25:14 ◼   ► a fuckin flop and that universe is not [TS]

00:25:17 ◼   ► real I mean they're just that's just a [TS]

00:25:20 ◼   ► rumor mill where is very big [TS]

00:25:23 ◼   ► our house is there a little that's a [TS]

00:25:27 ◼   ► team floor that's a room for lawyers [TS]

00:25:29 ◼   ► also farting and shot glasses right [TS]

00:25:32 ◼   ► coverage position sitting around like [TS]

00:25:35 ◼   ► huh [TS]

00:25:35 ◼   ► what can we do to justify how many [TS]

00:25:37 ◼   ► billable hours can we come up with here [TS]

00:25:39 ◼   ► like a we should go out and see if [TS]

00:25:42 ◼   ► anybody has any competing copyrights [TS]

00:25:44 ◼   ► with the increased with all of the books [TS]

00:25:46 ◼   ► that she wrote and then we can charge [TS]

00:25:47 ◼   ► the estate for all of these registered [TS]

00:25:49 ◼   ► letters so I said stop doing this and [TS]

00:25:52 ◼   ► then I I got a couple of our [TS]

00:25:53 ◼   ► three-hundred-dollar letters from member [TS]

00:25:55 ◼   ► and I said come by you know what I I i [TS]

00:26:01 ◼   ► feel like i have established myself as [TS]

00:26:03 ◼   ► the long winters and people know what it [TS]

00:26:04 ◼   ► is and if other enterprises intrude upon [TS]

00:26:09 ◼   ► that space let the chips fall where they [TS]

00:26:13 ◼   ► may [TS]

00:26:13 ◼   ► yeah I I'd I i do not want another [TS]

00:26:17 ◼   ► Remora attached to my soft white [TS]

00:26:20 ◼   ► underbelly [TS]

00:26:21 ◼   ► so go you know go take a flying fuck at [TS]

00:26:25 ◼   ► a rolling doughnut you lawyers and they [TS]

00:26:28 ◼   ► presumably did back in the chrysalis and [TS]

00:26:31 ◼   ► they're like move [TS]

00:26:34 ◼   ► they're suing somebody right now they [TS]

00:26:37 ◼   ► don't care about me kind of awful [TS]

00:26:39 ◼   ► business so anyway all by way of saying [TS]

00:26:44 ◼   ► if you actually know if you or anybody [TS]

00:26:47 ◼   ► else is interested in it was pursuing a [TS]

00:26:50 ◼   ► musical adaptation of the a little house [TS]

00:26:53 ◼   ► on the prairie universe it you may find [TS]

00:26:58 ◼   ► a ready audience somewhere [TS]

00:26:59 ◼   ► yeah careful this might come up in court [TS]

00:27:01 ◼   ► someday how the wild universe [TS]

00:27:06 ◼   ► no I had a funny a Portland thing what [TS]

00:27:13 ◼   ► happened to have fun important thing [TS]

00:27:14 ◼   ► that I was not witness to my ad a to UM [TS]

00:27:18 ◼   ► funny important things happen at the [TS]

00:27:20 ◼   ► airport yesterday [TS]

00:27:21 ◼   ► now let's just let's just preface this [TS]

00:27:23 ◼   ► by saying anymore a huge huge deal at [TS]

00:27:28 ◼   ► XOXO analysis that's not accurate you [TS]

00:27:30 ◼   ► are a massive massive star in this [TS]

00:27:32 ◼   ► environment [TS]

00:27:34 ◼   ► thank you here's what i will say is um [TS]

00:27:37 ◼   ► you know I I get overwhelmed sometimes [TS]

00:27:39 ◼   ► but like you know how I'm always [TS]

00:27:41 ◼   ► cracking wise and you know I think they [TS]

00:27:43 ◼   ► saw this several times even during our [TS]

00:27:45 ◼   ► just our time together at retail and [TS]

00:27:47 ◼   ► restaurants I'm always ready to leave [TS]

00:27:48 ◼   ► all the time [TS]

00:27:48 ◼   ► oh that's right I'm always very close to [TS]

00:27:50 ◼   ► leaving all the time or I'm always near [TS]

00:27:52 ◼   ► the door like a communist near the door [TS]

00:27:53 ◼   ► you know this about me 18 foot out the [TS]

00:27:55 ◼   ► door in this case I don't mean like [TS]

00:27:57 ◼   ► whatever but I i just i would mean this [TS]

00:28:01 ◼   ► as a way of telling a funny story and [TS]

00:28:02 ◼   ► it's not a bragging thing but it's a [TS]

00:28:03 ◼   ► really nice thing like when I walked up [TS]

00:28:06 ◼   ► to the venue to like get my badge and [TS]

00:28:09 ◼   ► you know there's I knew so many people i [TS]

00:28:12 ◼   ► standing in line I knew like four people [TS]

00:28:16 ◼   ► just standing in line [TS]

00:28:17 ◼   ► I got up to where you get the badges and [TS]

00:28:20 ◼   ► I go to the whatever k through c-section [TS]

00:28:23 ◼   ► and and the the guy [TS]

00:28:26 ◼   ► oh gosh what was his name you got a [TS]

00:28:28 ◼   ► photo with i took a photo of you with [TS]

00:28:29 ◼   ► him you know I such a nice guy and and [TS]

00:28:32 ◼   ► he was like he he he greets me with with [TS]

00:28:35 ◼   ► a catchphrase is like whoa you totally [TS]

00:28:37 ◼   ► know what my shows how are you gonna [TS]

00:28:39 ◼   ► introduce myself because i am this guy [TS]

00:28:40 ◼   ► from the internet and he's a volunteer [TS]

00:28:41 ◼   ► there is a really nice guy and one [TS]

00:28:43 ◼   ► standing there this guy walks up wearing [TS]

00:28:46 ◼   ► a rock on the line shirt and and I did I [TS]

00:28:47 ◼   ► just [TS]

00:28:48 ◼   ► nothing to learn from my friend John [TS]

00:28:48 ◼   ► Gruber you walk up to the guy gave him a [TS]

00:28:51 ◼   ► little pat and i said that is a really [TS]

00:28:52 ◼   ► handsome shirt and it goes all your mom [TS]

00:28:56 ◼   ► man i'm andy mcmillan the co-founder of [TS]

00:28:59 ◼   ► XOXO it's like you shitting me exactly [TS]

00:29:04 ◼   ► what should we go to stop the fighting [TS]

00:29:06 ◼   ► fires HR no no no he's not like that so [TS]

00:29:09 ◼   ► much but but he was wearing a runner on [TS]

00:29:10 ◼   ► the line shirt and I was like guys boner [TS]

00:29:12 ◼   ► town like oh my god you're totally [TS]

00:29:14 ◼   ► wearing that shirt that's so cool but [TS]

00:29:16 ◼   ► and then like I walked in and I swear to [TS]

00:29:18 ◼   ► god I don't think I got more than 10 or [TS]

00:29:20 ◼   ► 15 paces in in half an hour because I [TS]

00:29:22 ◼   ► kept seeing so me this is not [TS]

00:29:24 ◼   ► recognizing Merlin think it's more like [TS]

00:29:26 ◼   ► oh my god there's like a uh well anyway [TS]

00:29:29 ◼   ► it doesn't matter who but like a bunch [TS]

00:29:31 ◼   ► of people that I have not seen in like [TS]

00:29:32 ◼   ► eight years it was incredible it was so [TS]

00:29:34 ◼   ► fun [TS]

00:29:34 ◼   ► yeah and that was that was that was all [TS]

00:29:36 ◼   ► the time and it has wonderful it was it [TS]

00:29:38 ◼   ► does get a little overwhelming but like [TS]

00:29:40 ◼   ► to just walk around it's like all these [TS]

00:29:41 ◼   ► I don't want to name drop but like just [TS]

00:29:43 ◼   ► a bunch of people that I had never met [TS]

00:29:44 ◼   ► before or people i had met or just known [TS]

00:29:47 ◼   ► on the internet for like 10 or 15 years [TS]

00:29:48 ◼   ► and that's you know that obviously the [TS]

00:29:51 ◼   ► programming for this thing is great it's [TS]

00:29:54 ◼   ► fantastic but it talk about a [TS]

00:29:56 ◼   ► high-quality crowd i think the phrase I [TS]

00:29:58 ◼   ► used was it's very extremely low level [TS]

00:30:01 ◼   ► of ding-a-lings at this thing like it is [TS]

00:30:03 ◼   ► some really really cool people and I i [TS]

00:30:06 ◼   ► loved it was I was amazing i had that [TS]

00:30:07 ◼   ► experience you know where they say of [TS]

00:30:10 ◼   ► course if you look around the room and [TS]

00:30:11 ◼   ► you can't figure out who the [TS]

00:30:13 ◼   ► ding-a-lings are that maybe you're the [TS]

00:30:15 ◼   ► dingle oh yeah right now I was like am I [TS]

00:30:17 ◼   ► the dingling oh yeah there's so there [TS]

00:30:20 ◼   ► are so few dealings here uh that I must [TS]

00:30:25 ◼   ► be getting old me and it was like and [TS]

00:30:27 ◼   ► then I kept seeing people who were there [TS]

00:30:28 ◼   ► that I that I didn't get a chance to [TS]

00:30:30 ◼   ► meet and awkwardly introduced myself to [TS]

00:30:33 ◼   ► but like you know the guy who you've [TS]

00:30:35 ◼   ► heard me talk about the show adventure [TS]

00:30:36 ◼   ► time the guy who makes it make created [TS]

00:30:38 ◼   ► adventure time was there always wanted [TS]

00:30:40 ◼   ► to meet him and ward was like there for [TS]

00:30:43 ◼   ► the second year in a row it's bananas i [TS]

00:30:45 ◼   ► meant to meet him last night i meant to [TS]

00:30:47 ◼   ► meet him this year you know your friend [TS]

00:30:48 ◼   ► John Gruber studiously avoided meeting [TS]

00:30:51 ◼   ► me i didn't see john and aimee until I [TS]

00:30:53 ◼   ► was in the airport and I walked down the [TS]

00:30:55 ◼   ► terminal the c-terminal flipping the [TS]

00:30:56 ◼   ► bird at the boats walking down the [TS]

00:30:58 ◼   ► airport they weren't we had a nice visit [TS]

00:31:00 ◼   ► business anyway so just enjoy the camper [TS]

00:31:03 ◼   ► outer Janet's John's to go and camp out [TS]

00:31:05 ◼   ► and like have people come to him [TS]

00:31:06 ◼   ► oh and that's not that's not how you [TS]

00:31:08 ◼   ► roll well that's what I should have done [TS]

00:31:10 ◼   ► things John Kruk John Gruber deserves [TS]

00:31:14 ◼   ► that I come to him and all come on no I [TS]

00:31:18 ◼   ► think I should go I think I should make [TS]

00:31:20 ◼   ► that approach you know I think I should [TS]

00:31:21 ◼   ► I should be the one that Walters over [TS]

00:31:23 ◼   ► while he camps [TS]

00:31:25 ◼   ► let's let's focus on getting you and [TS]

00:31:26 ◼   ► John syracuse together that's that's [TS]

00:31:28 ◼   ► something that needs to really happen [TS]

00:31:30 ◼   ► well I'm just you know I've I you know I [TS]

00:31:32 ◼   ► recently ran for office where I was [TS]

00:31:34 ◼   ► dressed down every day that you were [TS]

00:31:36 ◼   ► very diverting I didn't know by various [TS]

00:31:38 ◼   ► constituencies and let you know I like [TS]

00:31:40 ◼   ► on one hand I have a little bit of a [TS]

00:31:42 ◼   ► thick skin now but I just feel like John [TS]

00:31:44 ◼   ► group is going to pick from sorry John [TS]

00:31:46 ◼   ► siracusa has a very long list of things [TS]

00:31:48 ◼   ► that he wants to talk to me about [TS]

00:31:50 ◼   ► well I'm you know I'm worried I'm gonna [TS]

00:31:52 ◼   ► really get excoriated you know I'm not [TS]

00:31:55 ◼   ► gonna let the cat out of the bag but we [TS]

00:31:56 ◼   ► got something special coming [TS]

00:31:57 ◼   ► oh that's almost say about them what [TS]

00:31:59 ◼   ► happened at the airport [TS]

00:32:00 ◼   ► well I'll just close by saying that you [TS]

00:32:02 ◼   ► know it's it's it's so lame to sit [TS]

00:32:04 ◼   ► around and talk about something great [TS]

00:32:06 ◼   ► that happened that other people didn't [TS]

00:32:07 ◼   ► get to do [TS]

00:32:08 ◼   ► oh yeah I don't everybody you have no [TS]

00:32:09 ◼   ► but I just would like to say it was I [TS]

00:32:12 ◼   ► didn't go to that that that many events [TS]

00:32:14 ◼   ► i was there mostly for the people and to [TS]

00:32:16 ◼   ► do the one performance thing i did but [TS]

00:32:18 ◼   ► it was a it was really great and the [TS]

00:32:21 ◼   ► people who run that thing really care a [TS]

00:32:23 ◼   ► lot about every single person having a [TS]

00:32:26 ◼   ► really good and and safe time there so I [TS]

00:32:29 ◼   ► just wanted to salute the entire XOXO [TS]

00:32:32 ◼   ► but in the fullness of time I'd have to [TS]

00:32:33 ◼   ► fly back to my family which was really [TS]

00:32:35 ◼   ► keen to do and I'm at the airport so [TS]

00:32:39 ◼   ► excuse me [TS]

00:32:40 ◼   ► portland portland thing number two which [TS]

00:32:43 ◼   ► I mentioned on the tutor you don't see [TS]

00:32:44 ◼   ► if you're not following me right now I'm [TS]

00:32:46 ◼   ► not sure why don't follow you did like [TS]

00:32:48 ◼   ► months ago [TS]

00:32:48 ◼   ► no but I was at this isn't so thing [TS]

00:32:51 ◼   ► number two is that I'm in the terminal [TS]

00:32:54 ◼   ► and he knows of fives player in the sea [TS]

00:32:56 ◼   ► area there's like a personal place [TS]

00:32:58 ◼   ► Harper's person plays guitar and doing [TS]

00:33:00 ◼   ► the sea area there's a guy playing the [TS]

00:33:03 ◼   ► vibes [TS]

00:33:04 ◼   ► yeah i'm part of the Seattle music [TS]

00:33:05 ◼   ► Commission and we have made the SeaTac [TS]

00:33:08 ◼   ► Airport a safe place for bobs [TS]

00:33:11 ◼   ► you got a code of conduct so you can't [TS]

00:33:14 ◼   ► say anything whether your pro or anti [TS]

00:33:16 ◼   ► vibes whether you believe in God or not [TS]

00:33:18 ◼   ► believe in god it's a question of you [TS]

00:33:19 ◼   ► just you're not like stare at somebody's [TS]

00:33:21 ◼   ► fives are you can start them [TS]

00:33:23 ◼   ► appreciatively well what about this [TS]

00:33:26 ◼   ► should've I have a different color [TS]

00:33:27 ◼   ► lanyard [TS]

00:33:27 ◼   ► yeah it's gonna say that is that is that [TS]

00:33:29 ◼   ► a fungus a colored if the vibes have to [TS]

00:33:33 ◼   ► buy players wearing a red lanyard that [TS]

00:33:34 ◼   ► means no stare don't photograph the [TS]

00:33:37 ◼   ► vibes [TS]

00:33:37 ◼   ► did you enjoy the vibes well I've heard [TS]

00:33:41 ◼   ► the five player before because i was [TS]

00:33:42 ◼   ► important about a month ago in the the [TS]

00:33:44 ◼   ► fellow was also there and it's cool like [TS]

00:33:45 ◼   ► that guess they volunteer and then they [TS]

00:33:47 ◼   ► get tips [TS]

00:33:48 ◼   ► it's pretty cool but it's a lot of a [TS]

00:33:51 ◼   ► like Nutcracker like don't don't pump [TS]

00:33:55 ◼   ► but Blanca Blanca do which is like you [TS]

00:33:58 ◼   ► know it was a perfect thing to plan [TS]

00:33:59 ◼   ► vibes in an airport and then you hear a [TS]

00:34:01 ◼   ► little bit of a daughter or Python gob [TS]

00:34:04 ◼   ► which is one my favorite songs just a [TS]

00:34:06 ◼   ► joy of man's desiring and this goes on [TS]

00:34:08 ◼   ► and he plays a lot of classics and a lot [TS]

00:34:10 ◼   ► of kind of swing and jazz stuff [TS]

00:34:12 ◼   ► sure and then I'm sitting there sitting [TS]

00:34:15 ◼   ► there in here see don't intent intent on [TS]

00:34:21 ◼   ► down and then no no they're not Donna [TS]

00:34:25 ◼   ► he's playing needle in the hay migration [TS]

00:34:28 ◼   ► really exquisite a perfect [TS]

00:34:32 ◼   ► dolorous probably you know what's so [TS]

00:34:35 ◼   ► great about that song that song as quiet [TS]

00:34:36 ◼   ► as is it's so intense and so like it's [TS]

00:34:40 ◼   ► more intense than a lot of metal songs [TS]

00:34:41 ◼   ► just in that 44 like stroke on that song [TS]

00:34:44 ◼   ► and I was like I'm hearing this am I [TS]

00:34:46 ◼   ► having a stroke he was totally playing [TS]

00:34:48 ◼   ► needle in a hay like how many airports [TS]

00:34:50 ◼   ► gonna go to where somebody please [TS]

00:34:51 ◼   ► Annalise missing on vibes only one and I [TS]

00:34:54 ◼   ► when I went and I gave my five and I [TS]

00:34:56 ◼   ► said thank you very much for Gary's [TS]

00:34:57 ◼   ► girls it turns out turns out somebody [TS]

00:35:00 ◼   ► told me he played at the premiere of [TS]

00:35:03 ◼   ► heaven adores you the the pretty good [TS]

00:35:05 ◼   ► elliott smith movie and with it wasn't a [TS]

00:35:07 ◼   ► dry eye in the house [TS]

00:35:08 ◼   ► that's my second Portland experience was [TS]

00:35:11 ◼   ► pretty great [TS]

00:35:12 ◼   ► so the vibes uh so I i know of vibes [TS]

00:35:15 ◼   ► player here in Seattle uh actually our [TS]

00:35:17 ◼   ► good friend who has never listen to the [TS]

00:35:20 ◼   ► show Shawn Nelson data trip for a while [TS]

00:35:23 ◼   ► she was a she's a spectacular vibe [TS]

00:35:25 ◼   ► parents never listen to show at all [TS]

00:35:27 ◼   ► I can't imagine that you'd think he'd at [TS]

00:35:29 ◼   ► least as you have an internet listens [TS]

00:35:30 ◼   ► for references to him I don't think he [TS]

00:35:32 ◼   ► does have an intern I think I would know [TS]

00:35:34 ◼   ► he's never mentioned he's never [TS]

00:35:35 ◼   ► mentioned the not not crediting him for [TS]

00:35:37 ◼   ► all the great shows it may be that he [TS]

00:35:40 ◼   ► it's hard to know hard to plumb the [TS]

00:35:42 ◼   ► depths of Shawn Nelson he may listen to [TS]

00:35:44 ◼   ► every episode and I just never it's [TS]

00:35:48 ◼   ► never come up and just sit in a sit-in a [TS]

00:35:50 ◼   ► wingback chair clenching his fists and [TS]

00:35:53 ◼   ► wingback totes cable and and chewing [TS]

00:35:56 ◼   ► knowing on the energy and I was pipe is [TS]

00:35:59 ◼   ► meerschaum pipe but no I don't think [TS]

00:36:02 ◼   ► that he I don't think that he could [TS]

00:36:04 ◼   ► stand to listen to you and me talk like [TS]

00:36:07 ◼   ► we do but he didn't listen to two of [TS]

00:36:10 ◼   ► your ex-girlfriends have a show you like [TS]

00:36:12 ◼   ► you know what that's not for me [TS]

00:36:14 ◼   ► yeah that's not for me that's for others [TS]

00:36:16 ◼   ► rather people but i did i ever tell you [TS]

00:36:18 ◼   ► about my dad's vibes I wanna hear about [TS]

00:36:21 ◼   ► your dad i also want to also attend my [TS]

00:36:23 ◼   ► wife my story number one about whatever [TS]

00:36:25 ◼   ► i don't know let's go back to snows [TS]

00:36:27 ◼   ► really it's really fast and groupers I [TS]

00:36:29 ◼   ► don't want to do about it because it's [TS]

00:36:32 ◼   ► creepy but um I went to the security [TS]

00:36:35 ◼   ► line I can't say I i like the portland [TS]

00:36:37 ◼   ► airport that's pretty good story pretty [TS]

00:36:39 ◼   ► good ass airport [TS]

00:36:40 ◼   ► sometimes the TSA people they're super [TS]

00:36:43 ◼   ► nice and super helpful there's sometimes [TS]

00:36:44 ◼   ► a little too performing for my liking [TS]

00:36:47 ◼   ► mm and it's one of the airport is the is [TS]

00:36:49 ◼   ► like the Burbank Airport it so according [TS]

00:36:52 ◼   ► to something i heard announced over the [TS]

00:36:53 ◼   ► PA it was some kind of a phony-baloney [TS]

00:36:55 ◼   ► award a as an airport for my best [TS]

00:36:59 ◼   ► airport for travel and leisure this is [TS]

00:37:02 ◼   ► another thing i learned being on the [TS]

00:37:03 ◼   ► Seattle music Commission airports have [TS]

00:37:06 ◼   ► their own not i think there are multiple [TS]

00:37:09 ◼   ► airport awards so sure and and awarding [TS]

00:37:14 ◼   ► organizations like who's real who's who [TS]

00:37:17 ◼   ► among american high school students [TS]

00:37:19 ◼   ► really are great for get you to buy the [TS]

00:37:22 ◼   ► book got legends yoga nominated for [TS]

00:37:24 ◼   ► who's one of those elements that was [TS]

00:37:27 ◼   ► your lights down the dollar book that's [TS]

00:37:28 ◼   ► it my that's in my bathroom library the [TS]

00:37:31 ◼   ► zoo American high school students 1978 [TS]

00:37:35 ◼   ► anyway I felt it up too much but it was [TS]

00:37:37 ◼   ► just funny because i was in the line and [TS]

00:37:39 ◼   ► there's this one super loud woman I [TS]

00:37:41 ◼   ► think consider yourself extremely funny [TS]

00:37:43 ◼   ► sth goes good one and she's cracking [TS]

00:37:45 ◼   ► wise and she's like talking to people [TS]

00:37:47 ◼   ► and many fun [TS]

00:37:49 ◼   ► sure and i'm getting in the line and I [TS]

00:37:50 ◼   ► hear Carrie Brownstein Kerri Browns day [TS]

00:37:54 ◼   ► whoa and I turn and I see this wisp of a [TS]

00:37:57 ◼   ► woodland creature with a roller bag like [TS]

00:38:01 ◼   ► sprinting toward the screaming woman [TS]

00:38:03 ◼   ► taking a card out of her hand sink thank [TS]

00:38:05 ◼   ► you very much and then so basically [TS]

00:38:08 ◼   ► Carrie Brownstein had gone through tsa [TS]

00:38:10 ◼   ► pre and had left her driver's license [TS]

00:38:12 ◼   ► and this woman in Portland with somebody [TS]

00:38:16 ◼   ► who I have to guess it's kind of a [TS]

00:38:17 ◼   ► private cris start screaming Gary Brad [TS]

00:38:20 ◼   ► they are young and so the woodland [TS]

00:38:23 ◼   ► creature called oh my god she is so cute [TS]

00:38:26 ◼   ► she would fit in a vest pocket she is [TS]

00:38:28 ◼   ► she I personalized or I love later Kenny [TS]

00:38:30 ◼   ► i love i love Portlandia I just think [TS]

00:38:32 ◼   ► she's amazing and she's tearing ass to [TS]

00:38:36 ◼   ► get somewhere far away from where this [TS]

00:38:37 ◼   ► happened to you and the woman you're [TS]

00:38:39 ◼   ► killing Carrie Brad stain someone says [TS]

00:38:41 ◼   ► to her she was oh I didn't know oh of [TS]

00:38:46 ◼   ► course as you can imagine like half of [TS]

00:38:49 ◼   ► the people in line like strain their [TS]

00:38:51 ◼   ► next to turn right like right i mean so [TS]

00:38:54 ◼   ► I talked about a sighting [TS]

00:38:55 ◼   ► I mean if you're in portland want to see [TS]

00:38:57 ◼   ► Carrie Brownstein walking around it's [TS]

00:38:59 ◼   ► exactly what you want to see you look [TS]

00:39:00 ◼   ► nice she looks really nice [TS]

00:39:02 ◼   ► that's the second because I I knew that [TS]

00:39:04 ◼   ► she was there because turns turns out [TS]

00:39:08 ◼   ► turns out during XOXO festival uh the [TS]

00:39:13 ◼   ► internets Jesse thorn and Jordan Morris [TS]

00:39:17 ◼   ► of maximum fun of the the Jordan Jesse [TS]

00:39:22 ◼   ► sure they call it Jordan Jesse show the [TS]

00:39:24 ◼   ► just Jordan Jesse go go show jordan and [TS]

00:39:29 ◼   ► Jesse go [TS]

00:39:29 ◼   ► they were playing a show of their own [TS]

00:39:34 ◼   ► podcast in portland that same time that [TS]

00:39:38 ◼   ► we were there Alan was she guessed well [TS]

00:39:41 ◼   ► I don't can't imagine I don't know who [TS]

00:39:43 ◼   ► nose but I said that seems funny that [TS]

00:39:48 ◼   ► they were in portland at the same time [TS]

00:39:49 ◼   ► so i texted Jesse thorn I was like [TS]

00:39:52 ◼   ► really important he was like yes I am I [TS]

00:39:55 ◼   ► my flight has been delayed and i was now [TS]

00:40:00 ◼   ► i'm sitting at powell's books or [TS]

00:40:01 ◼   ► something like that and I said well I'm [TS]

00:40:02 ◼   ► not going to come over there to see you [TS]

00:40:03 ◼   ► if you didn't make any attempt to come [TS]

00:40:05 ◼   ► see me over but you should put all that [TS]

00:40:08 ◼   ► in a pamphlet some point just as I [TS]

00:40:09 ◼   ► thought yeah I said but go screw [TS]

00:40:11 ◼   ► yourself and also up your nose with a [TS]

00:40:14 ◼   ► rubber hose and he said well yeah that's [TS]

00:40:17 ◼   ► right and I said I you know I'm sitting [TS]

00:40:19 ◼   ► with some internet people who are fairly [TS]

00:40:24 ◼   ► prominent on the internet one of them [TS]

00:40:28 ◼   ► even has a pink iphone that I'm not [TS]

00:40:32 ◼   ► allowed to touch and Jesse thorn wrote [TS]

00:40:35 ◼   ► back and said last night I was hanging [TS]

00:40:37 ◼   ► out with carrie brownstein I i I'd like [TS]

00:40:41 ◼   ► to see some documentation of the house [TS]

00:40:43 ◼   ► that's exactly right i don't know [TS]

00:40:44 ◼   ► whether he was in the same theater area [TS]

00:40:47 ◼   ► of town with her whether they were [TS]

00:40:49 ◼   ► hanging out I don't know [TS]

00:40:50 ◼   ► mm I think he was hanging out with her [TS]

00:40:52 ◼   ► very much the same way that I was [TS]

00:40:53 ◼   ► hanging out with which we happened to be [TS]

00:40:55 ◼   ► in the same building [TS]

00:40:57 ◼   ► I don't know you know he's a he's a he's [TS]

00:40:59 ◼   ► a you know it's kind of a big deal so [TS]

00:41:03 ◼   ► anyway that's why I was my portland [TS]

00:41:05 ◼   ► story and and she seemed nice [TS]

00:41:09 ◼   ► every every impression I have of her is [TS]

00:41:11 ◼   ► that she's very nice [TS]

00:41:12 ◼   ► I there's a big guy interview with her a [TS]

00:41:14 ◼   ► few weeks ago maybe a couple months now [TS]

00:41:17 ◼   ► and I don't know she just she's very [TS]

00:41:19 ◼   ► thoughtful [TS]

00:41:19 ◼   ► yeah um yeah yeah yep smart and nice you [TS]

00:41:23 ◼   ► know it's it's a it's it's good to be [TS]

00:41:26 ◼   ► successful that's another thing that [TS]

00:41:28 ◼   ► that you know you don't have to [TS]

00:41:30 ◼   ► some people get successful and then [TS]

00:41:32 ◼   ► there then they turn into monsters [TS]

00:41:34 ◼   ► because they were always monsters [TS]

00:41:36 ◼   ► yeah it's always just inside all of this [TS]

00:41:39 ◼   ► John that's right but sometimes you get [TS]

00:41:42 ◼   ► to be successful and then you get to be [TS]

00:41:45 ◼   ► really nice because now you are able to [TS]

00:41:49 ◼   ► be nice [TS]

00:41:50 ◼   ► you don't have to be mean because you're [TS]

00:41:53 ◼   ► successful um just you can just wear it [TS]

00:41:55 ◼   ► with grace [TS]

00:41:55 ◼   ► it seems like she's in that count yeah [TS]

00:41:59 ◼   ► I'm kind of don't be surprised by [TS]

00:42:01 ◼   ► pleased to hear that how comfortable you [TS]

00:42:03 ◼   ► are spending time on purpose with [TS]

00:42:06 ◼   ► internet people [TS]

00:42:07 ◼   ► you seem like you really come a long way [TS]

00:42:08 ◼   ► with that I have well I realized at a [TS]

00:42:12 ◼   ► certain points [TS]

00:42:13 ◼   ► I don't know when but I realized that I [TS]

00:42:16 ◼   ► was sort of an Internet person i guess [TS]

00:42:20 ◼   ► people recognize me from the internet [TS]

00:42:23 ◼   ► yes of among other places I can't read I [TS]

00:42:27 ◼   ► can't fight it anymore i'm still not [TS]

00:42:30 ◼   ► allowed to touch the pink iphone but I [TS]

00:42:32 ◼   ► can sit around and talk about i mean [TS]

00:42:37 ◼   ► like for instance Marco sat next to me [TS]

00:42:40 ◼   ► and told me about his microphone [TS]

00:42:42 ◼   ► reviewing oh yeah he did a long set [TS]

00:42:45 ◼   ► series of reviews about microphones and [TS]

00:42:47 ◼   ► he did one on headphones and now he's [TS]

00:42:50 ◼   ► done one on microphones with a with a [TS]

00:42:52 ◼   ► bent toward helping podcasters who [TS]

00:42:55 ◼   ► famously don't know anything about how [TS]

00:42:56 ◼   ► things sound not to to get better at [TS]

00:42:58 ◼   ► choosing like it very opinionated but I [TS]

00:43:00 ◼   ► thought extremely useful and I've been [TS]

00:43:02 ◼   ► in the I've been in the pro audio [TS]

00:43:05 ◼   ► circles for many years and have a be [TS]

00:43:09 ◼   ► tested some very expensive microphones [TS]

00:43:13 ◼   ► some microphones that even the top [TS]

00:43:17 ◼   ► podcasters would never get their grubby [TS]

00:43:20 ◼   ► little hands near her microphones that [TS]

00:43:25 ◼   ► even Marc Maron couldn't have in his [TS]

00:43:29 ◼   ► even eat just a large marin even even [TS]

00:43:34 ◼   ► the guy that used to be the second [TS]

00:43:37 ◼   ► banana on the late night talk show host [TS]

00:43:40 ◼   ► where the shattering show champion [TS]

00:43:42 ◼   ► jumping on trampolines and bikinis who [TS]

00:43:44 ◼   ► even that ding-a-ling can't get it can't [TS]

00:43:47 ◼   ► get the mic [TS]

00:43:47 ◼   ► these are microphones these are these [TS]

00:43:51 ◼   ► are top should these are microphones [TS]

00:43:52 ◼   ► that costs more than a car hope's [TS]

00:43:54 ◼   ► diamonds of microphones these are [TS]

00:43:56 ◼   ► microphones built in pre-war Germany [TS]

00:43:59 ◼   ► oh man there are mics these are the [TS]

00:44:03 ◼   ► v-star that's exactly what they call [TS]

00:44:05 ◼   ► them they bring us i'm on my mark likes [TS]

00:44:08 ◼   ► these are the microphones that were [TS]

00:44:10 ◼   ► manufactured in Japan after the war to [TS]

00:44:14 ◼   ► be better than every other thing you [TS]

00:44:17 ◼   ► know Japan went through a long period [TS]

00:44:19 ◼   ► there where everything they made they [TS]

00:44:21 ◼   ► tried to make better than every other [TS]

00:44:22 ◼   ► thing and smaller and some of the well [TS]

00:44:24 ◼   ► these microphones are not smaller that's [TS]

00:44:26 ◼   ► one thing that they didn't get right [TS]

00:44:28 ◼   ► they made these microphones enormous i [TS]

00:44:31 ◼   ► have a baby those microphones and so I [TS]

00:44:32 ◼   ► was able to sit and talk to Marco about [TS]

00:44:34 ◼   ► microphones where I was coming from some [TS]

00:44:38 ◼   ► place of you know fair loves coming in [TS]

00:44:42 ◼   ► from a knowledgeable place and then I [TS]

00:44:44 ◼   ► said give me your opinion of my tone [TS]

00:44:47 ◼   ► Marco and he was uncomfortable he thinks [TS]

00:44:56 ◼   ► the sm7b is problematic because it takes [TS]

00:44:59 ◼   ► so much to drive it that you have noise [TS]

00:45:01 ◼   ► with it i still never heard the noise i [TS]

00:45:03 ◼   ► don't know what that noise is that he's [TS]

00:45:05 ◼   ► talking about he said two things one me [TS]

00:45:07 ◼   ► he has a he his noise floor he has a he [TS]

00:45:11 ◼   ► has a different standard of noise floor [TS]

00:45:13 ◼   ► he likes he likes it he likes the [TS]

00:45:15 ◼   ► background to be completely dark and [TS]

00:45:18 ◼   ► that we have a little too much noise for [TS]

00:45:20 ◼   ► his taste but what about the coughing no [TS]

00:45:23 ◼   ► he wonder you at some somehow he didn't [TS]

00:45:26 ◼   ► believe that my whole that what Mike off [TS]

00:45:27 ◼   ► button was was just to turn the mic 90 [TS]

00:45:30 ◼   ► degrees ago and then turn it back on [TS]

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00:47:00 ◼   ► the other thing he said was that he was [TS]

00:47:01 ◼   ► going to talk to you about rolling some [TS]

00:47:04 ◼   ► of the base off and that's a good idea [TS]

00:47:06 ◼   ► of me that maybe there's just a little [TS]

00:47:08 ◼   ► too much bass yeah yeah I i can do that [TS]

00:47:12 ◼   ► it's in GarageBand I don't think he even [TS]

00:47:14 ◼   ► has a copy of GarageBand probably yeah I [TS]

00:47:16 ◼   ► feel like and for me I feel like that [TS]

00:47:18 ◼   ► base is part of the appeal for some [TS]

00:47:20 ◼   ► people that that the the way why my [TS]

00:47:23 ◼   ► voice kind of reverberates not just in [TS]

00:47:25 ◼   ► their ear bones but down in their pelvic [TS]

00:47:28 ◼   ► bones i'm sure that's part of the reason [TS]

00:47:30 ◼   ► he was house huh and what they took off [TS]

00:47:33 ◼   ► the base and your voice might stop at [TS]

00:47:35 ◼   ► their abdomen and that's not far enough [TS]

00:47:37 ◼   ► you know I don't ever be just an idea up [TS]

00:47:39 ◼   ► here [TS]

00:47:39 ◼   ► yeah that's me yeah that's your that's [TS]

00:47:41 ◼   ► what I got this district that's your [TS]

00:47:44 ◼   ► domain automobile automobile counterfeit [TS]

00:47:47 ◼   ► money machine [TS]

00:47:49 ◼   ► oh hello hello America and all the ships [TS]

00:47:54 ◼   ► at sea [TS]

00:47:55 ◼   ► let's go press M times Goodwin get you [TS]

00:47:57 ◼   ► gonna go into my sinuses are message on [TS]

00:47:59 ◼   ► I have a lot of sinus problems right now [TS]

00:48:01 ◼   ► well you were travelling travelling [TS]

00:48:02 ◼   ► anything is between going to places with [TS]

00:48:05 ◼   ► air conditioning which I don't have [TS]

00:48:07 ◼   ► and I'm not around and being being in [TS]

00:48:10 ◼   ► the fart tube the far too will really [TS]

00:48:13 ◼   ► dry you out so i got a lot of typography [TS]

00:48:16 ◼   ► happening right now what's amazing about [TS]

00:48:17 ◼   ► these tech conferences is that they are [TS]

00:48:19 ◼   ► basically they they're basically a [TS]

00:48:22 ◼   ► events where an entire group of people [TS]

00:48:28 ◼   ► that just by definition do not travel or [TS]

00:48:32 ◼   ► do not know how to travel or do not like [TS]

00:48:33 ◼   ► traveling or going out [TS]

00:48:34 ◼   ► travel but but the unifying [TS]

00:48:37 ◼   ► characteristic is that they do not [TS]

00:48:38 ◼   ► travel well are all asked to gather in a [TS]

00:48:42 ◼   ► faraway place like everybody there was [TS]

00:48:45 ◼   ► like oh you know nobody knows how to [TS]

00:48:47 ◼   ► pack music is being around people [TS]

00:48:49 ◼   ► veterans of World War two [TS]

00:48:50 ◼   ► they're more likely to get on a plane [TS]

00:48:52 ◼   ► and some of these folks in the early [TS]

00:48:53 ◼   ► twenties [TS]

00:48:54 ◼   ► yeah yeah that's right and you can just [TS]

00:48:55 ◼   ► you can see it in their body language [TS]

00:48:57 ◼   ► they're just like now I'm standing in a [TS]

00:48:59 ◼   ► big field and surrounded by people and [TS]

00:49:02 ◼   ► there's no corner I can back into the I [TS]

00:49:05 ◼   ► don't have my special chair but still [TS]

00:49:10 ◼   ► everyone overcomes it and I'm sorry to [TS]

00:49:11 ◼   ► hear that you have sinus problem i'll be [TS]

00:49:13 ◼   ► alright [TS]

00:49:13 ◼   ► ok it was good as alaska airlines which [TS]

00:49:17 ◼   ► is a great airline I i was able to [TS]

00:49:20 ◼   ► upgrade from my seat in the back of the [TS]

00:49:24 ◼   ► fork tube into a seat like a row six [TS]

00:49:26 ◼   ► seat for sixteen dollars American mm [TS]

00:49:30 ◼   ► laughs does that you can upgrade used to [TS]

00:49:31 ◼   ► be time was you could upgrade to first [TS]

00:49:33 ◼   ► for like fifty bucks yeah now I don't [TS]

00:49:35 ◼   ► you can fly a lot but you fly first [TS]

00:49:37 ◼   ► class most places and that's that's that [TS]

00:49:39 ◼   ► starts around twelve hundred dollars [TS]

00:49:41 ◼   ► yeah i'll ask you used to have used to [TS]

00:49:44 ◼   ► have a lock on good times and as you [TS]

00:49:46 ◼   ► know sitting in the front of the plane [TS]

00:49:48 ◼   ► that means everyone else on the plane is [TS]

00:49:51 ◼   ► behind your fart orifice right let's go [TS]

00:49:55 ◼   ► backward [TS]

00:49:56 ◼   ► maybe you could license your shot glass [TS]

00:49:57 ◼   ► idea to the airline's em it could be [TS]

00:50:00 ◼   ► something like you know what version you [TS]

00:50:01 ◼   ► get the red you say oh I want some pop [TS]

00:50:04 ◼   ► chips and I want that weird salami box [TS]

00:50:06 ◼   ► and also give me fuck that give me a [TS]

00:50:08 ◼   ► shot glass like a fart in i'm wondering [TS]

00:50:10 ◼   ► whether at the back of a plane where all [TS]

00:50:13 ◼   ► of you know all of the farts are killer [TS]

00:50:17 ◼   ► accumulating and now presumably [TS]

00:50:19 ◼   ► condenser that if you think about the [TS]

00:50:21 ◼   ► physics and the movement of the plane [TS]

00:50:23 ◼   ► that would be entirely natural and that [TS]

00:50:25 ◼   ► usually maybe the planes at a slight [TS]

00:50:27 ◼   ► incline it just makes total all the [TS]

00:50:28 ◼   ► parts are gonna go to the back of the [TS]

00:50:29 ◼   ► plane reservations buttressed by the [TS]

00:50:31 ◼   ► fact that people are route literally [TS]

00:50:32 ◼   ► ruining that bathroom every couple [TS]

00:50:34 ◼   ► minutes back there [TS]

00:50:35 ◼   ► hello but trust ya but rest it creates a [TS]

00:50:38 ◼   ► day and physical parts inc [TS]

00:50:41 ◼   ► so here's my question to you right if we [TS]

00:50:43 ◼   ► understand that farts are actually do [TS]

00:50:46 ◼   ► have [TS]

00:50:47 ◼   ► up an element of particulates room to [TS]

00:50:50 ◼   ► get a valence and they gotta wait so how [TS]

00:50:54 ◼   ► many farts before you could actually [TS]

00:50:58 ◼   ► condense them down to something with [TS]

00:51:02 ◼   ► like two product like to make like a [TS]

00:51:06 ◼   ► puck comical how farts would you have to [TS]

00:51:09 ◼   ► accumulate and condensed before you [TS]

00:51:11 ◼   ► could make a puck and then what would [TS]

00:51:13 ◼   ► that puck be good for that's ever that's [TS]

00:51:15 ◼   ► a really good question i think the most [TS]

00:51:16 ◼   ► difficult part I think getting farts [TS]

00:51:19 ◼   ► first we're getting far it's not a [TS]

00:51:20 ◼   ► problem but then gathering them is the [TS]

00:51:23 ◼   ► secondary problem the primary problem is [TS]

00:51:25 ◼   ► how do you remove things like dander [TS]

00:51:26 ◼   ► from from from the fart collector would [TS]

00:51:29 ◼   ► you have a filtering unit right now iím [TS]

00:51:32 ◼   ► what it look like i don't know i think [TS]

00:51:34 ◼   ► it would be a kind of viscous light [TS]

00:51:37 ◼   ► brown not an orb exactly but like an [TS]

00:51:40 ◼   ► undulating egg shape [TS]

00:51:41 ◼   ► oh who it is because you're gonna say [TS]

00:51:44 ◼   ► that it has i see I always imagined that [TS]

00:51:46 ◼   ► it was like yeah what would get you [TS]

00:51:49 ◼   ► distill it down and it would be kind of [TS]

00:51:50 ◼   ► like a brick but you're saying you know [TS]

00:51:52 ◼   ► you're saying it's like a like like [TS]

00:51:54 ◼   ► water in zero gravity [TS]

00:51:56 ◼   ► like imagine a like a like a up a bit of [TS]

00:51:59 ◼   ► mercury that you could hold easily in [TS]

00:52:01 ◼   ► the palm of your hand except it's made [TS]

00:52:03 ◼   ► out of farts [TS]

00:52:04 ◼   ► mm I don't you want to hold it in your [TS]

00:52:06 ◼   ► hand we need to the right containment [TS]

00:52:08 ◼   ► facility for that [TS]

00:52:09 ◼   ► see I think about this a lot because [TS]

00:52:10 ◼   ► this is sort of an adjunct of supertrain [TS]

00:52:13 ◼   ► thinking that's called supertrain [TS]

00:52:16 ◼   ► thinking supertrain to point out who [TS]

00:52:19 ◼   ► where let's say you have a sports [TS]

00:52:21 ◼   ► stadium now that the fashion in sports [TS]

00:52:23 ◼   ► stadiums now is to is to destroy the [TS]

00:52:26 ◼   ► multimillion-dollar covered sports [TS]

00:52:27 ◼   ► stadium that your town built in the [TS]

00:52:29 ◼   ► seventies and eighties to wreck it and [TS]

00:52:33 ◼   ► rebuild a sports stadium that is open to [TS]

00:52:35 ◼   ► the air [TS]

00:52:36 ◼   ► yeah that looks old that looks old [TS]

00:52:38 ◼   ► old-timey you're right we did that here [TS]

00:52:40 ◼   ► in Seattle we had a perfectly fine [TS]

00:52:41 ◼   ► cement-like bunker that we tore down and [TS]

00:52:47 ◼   ► built to fake old open stadiums to [TS]

00:52:51 ◼   ► replace it but back when you had a back [TS]

00:52:55 ◼   ► we had a concrete domed sports stadium [TS]

00:52:59 ◼   ► where you had climate control [TS]

00:53:00 ◼   ► oh right how much like human moisture [TS]

00:53:04 ◼   ► could you and did they process and what [TS]

00:53:11 ◼   ► did it ultimately like why we not [TS]

00:53:14 ◼   ► collecting that and studying it like all [TS]

00:53:17 ◼   ► of the all of the moisture-laden breadth [TS]

00:53:21 ◼   ► of 50,000 sports fan that got all those [TS]

00:53:24 ◼   ► wet mouth [TS]

00:53:25 ◼   ► exhaling yeah and that and all that wet [TS]

00:53:28 ◼   ► air was sucked into some duct somewhere [TS]

00:53:31 ◼   ► and taken down to a basement room where [TS]

00:53:34 ◼   ► was condensed into what can I can only [TS]

00:53:37 ◼   ► imagine is like buckets and buckets of [TS]

00:53:40 ◼   ► like everyone's hopes and fear [TS]

00:53:43 ◼   ► yes and then and then in memories [TS]

00:53:46 ◼   ► because you're creating memories when [TS]

00:53:48 ◼   ► you're with your family watching sports [TS]

00:53:50 ◼   ► you're creating memories so like like an [TS]

00:53:52 ◼   ► old man's shirt there should certainly [TS]

00:53:53 ◼   ► be a way to to mind that to liberate the [TS]

00:53:56 ◼   ► memories and the moisture in some kind [TS]

00:53:58 ◼   ► of a containment facility also for [TS]

00:53:59 ◼   ► anyone who's having trouble imagining [TS]

00:54:00 ◼   ► this for thinking it's some kind of [TS]

00:54:01 ◼   ► sci-fi thing have you ever had a huge HD [TS]

00:54:04 ◼   ► humidifier in your house [TS]

00:54:06 ◼   ► hello I can say I've had a dehumidifier [TS]

00:54:07 ◼   ► my house and the EU bring this big thing [TS]

00:54:09 ◼   ► that used to be the size of a file [TS]

00:54:10 ◼   ► cabinet you bring your house a big coil [TS]

00:54:12 ◼   ► on the back and it would take the [TS]

00:54:14 ◼   ► moisture out of the air and then you [TS]

00:54:16 ◼   ► know what happened it would drip off the [TS]

00:54:18 ◼   ► little coils into a bucket [TS]

00:54:20 ◼   ► me after like a week of that or even a [TS]

00:54:22 ◼   ► couple days of that you cannot even [TS]

00:54:23 ◼   ► believe how much moisture is being [TS]

00:54:25 ◼   ► pulled and let me ask you this you're [TS]

00:54:27 ◼   ► walking around your home are you [TS]

00:54:28 ◼   ► noticing are you feeling moisture it's a [TS]

00:54:30 ◼   ► little muggy in here but you would never [TS]

00:54:32 ◼   ► guess that you could make a bucket just [TS]

00:54:34 ◼   ► imagine if you do that with hearts and [TS]

00:54:35 ◼   ► memories if you pulled all the parts in [TS]

00:54:37 ◼   ► memory first of all if you did it start [TS]

00:54:39 ◼   ► for stadium all those parts of memories [TS]

00:54:41 ◼   ► probably are four percent alcohol right [TS]

00:54:44 ◼   ► right and uh you know it seems to boil [TS]

00:54:47 ◼   ► off the water superset memories it and [TS]

00:54:51 ◼   ► it's the ppm the ppm level got 50,000 [TS]

00:54:54 ◼   ► people in there you probably got it [TS]

00:54:56 ◼   ► basically a dumpster of wet dumpster wet [TS]

00:55:02 ◼   ► member its of what memories and fears [TS]

00:55:04 ◼   ► right and what you just dump them into [TS]

00:55:06 ◼   ► the bay by that really seems like a [TS]

00:55:08 ◼   ► waste because if we learn anything from [TS]

00:55:10 ◼   ► if we learned anything from fury road is [TS]

00:55:12 ◼   ► that something you're going to [TS]

00:55:13 ◼   ► that water and you might even want the [TS]

00:55:14 ◼   ► memories if you absolutely want the [TS]

00:55:17 ◼   ► memories that is our patrimony right [TS]

00:55:20 ◼   ► that's like oh absolutely nobody reads [TS]

00:55:23 ◼   ► anymore John you know exactly you buy [TS]

00:55:26 ◼   ► you buy well yeah you buy garlic fries [TS]

00:55:29 ◼   ► you get garlic fries you get a hat you [TS]

00:55:30 ◼   ► get me get Shero but like you know how I [TS]

00:55:33 ◼   ► if you are going to remember that we [TS]

00:55:35 ◼   ► probably won't remember that but because [TS]

00:55:36 ◼   ► again [TS]

00:55:37 ◼   ► see also alcohol right but i'm thinking [TS]

00:55:39 ◼   ► you could get three-and-a-half ounces of [TS]

00:55:42 ◼   ► memories out of most sporting events [TS]

00:55:44 ◼   ► especially if it's baseball because [TS]

00:55:45 ◼   ► people have lots of memories about [TS]

00:55:46 ◼   ► baseball what are you talking about [TS]

00:55:47 ◼   ► three-and-a-half ounces per person [TS]

00:55:50 ◼   ► HT guy by volume our way up well they're [TS]

00:55:53 ◼   ► right right so we should really go to [TS]

00:55:56 ◼   ► the metric system speaking is that's [TS]

00:55:57 ◼   ► true so we should have a long time [TS]

00:55:59 ◼   ► without you're like the only country [TS]

00:56:00 ◼   ► that doesn't do you know what I tried I [TS]

00:56:01 ◼   ► made I did my part in the seventies it's [TS]

00:56:04 ◼   ► so hard to be the only person doing [TS]

00:56:06 ◼   ► something you're just sitting there like [TS]

00:56:08 ◼   ► I'm a little kid you've already tried to [TS]

00:56:10 ◼   ► you know you've already tried to like [TS]

00:56:12 ◼   ► change the world through little kids and [TS]

00:56:15 ◼   ► you Americans love to love 22 to John so [TS]

00:56:18 ◼   ► many more security filmstrips so many [TS]

00:56:20 ◼   ► filmstrips about the metric system [TS]

00:56:22 ◼   ► oh just forcing the kids and the kids [TS]

00:56:25 ◼   ► were like were there were ready 60km can [TS]

00:56:30 ◼   ► I please have to have nine centimeters [TS]

00:56:32 ◼   ► of red vines [TS]

00:56:33 ◼   ► yeah i would like to have one and a half [TS]

00:56:36 ◼   ► grams of of protein powder 7 750 [TS]

00:56:43 ◼   ► milliliters of liquor [TS]

00:56:45 ◼   ► please and thank you and then the adults [TS]

00:56:47 ◼   ► who were in charge you know what [TS]

00:56:49 ◼   ► happened we elected Reagan President and [TS]

00:56:52 ◼   ► the and reagan was elected president on [TS]

00:56:54 ◼   ► a platform of no metric system you know [TS]

00:56:56 ◼   ► what good luck trying to get Ronald [TS]

00:56:58 ◼   ► Reagan to even understand the mattress [TS]

00:57:00 ◼   ► he's probably when the suckers that's [TS]

00:57:01 ◼   ► constantly in the mental calculations [TS]

00:57:03 ◼   ► that's the wrong way to do the metric [TS]

00:57:04 ◼   ► system Reagan was using Imperial weights [TS]

00:57:07 ◼   ► is using you know the Scottish like x el [TS]

00:57:11 ◼   ► tio NE tom is today's yeah Tony's if [TS]

00:57:15 ◼   ► anything over 50 mega tone a bomb yeah [TS]

00:57:18 ◼   ► anyway you know and like he was [TS]

00:57:20 ◼   ► measuring distance in furlongs yeah you [TS]

00:57:23 ◼   ► know forget it [TS]

00:57:24 ◼   ► so we we missed our opportunity how [TS]

00:57:26 ◼   ► Ted's now that's right how many many [TS]

00:57:30 ◼   ► hogsheads and barrels of memories is it [TS]

00:57:33 ◼   ► going to take to get one aircraft [TS]

00:57:35 ◼   ► carrier that's those are the questions [TS]

00:57:37 ◼   ► he was asking and now we're anachronism [TS]

00:57:40 ◼   ► but we're the ones that are you know [TS]

00:57:41 ◼   ► we're the ones that are going to that [TS]

00:57:43 ◼   ► are building a manned mission to Mars [TS]

00:57:44 ◼   ► huh [TS]

00:57:45 ◼   ► so we're going to take inches and feet [TS]

00:57:47 ◼   ► to Mars and not going to be so confused [TS]

00:57:51 ◼   ► up there you imagine that can measure in [TS]

00:57:53 ◼   ► the Gracie that we're still using that [TS]

00:57:55 ◼   ► nonsense i mean i will be talking about [TS]

00:57:57 ◼   ► like you know cubits and you get there [TS]

00:58:01 ◼   ► I mean but the problem is that they're [TS]

00:58:02 ◼   ► measuring everything according to atomic [TS]

00:58:04 ◼   ► clocks who of their own device imagine a [TS]

00:58:08 ◼   ► lot of what we do seems pretty quick to [TS]

00:58:10 ◼   ► the grace so quaint because it's all [TS]

00:58:13 ◼   ► right there it's all written in the in [TS]

00:58:16 ◼   ► the fabric of the universe like it's [TS]

00:58:18 ◼   ► there's not the metric system isn't any [TS]

00:58:20 ◼   ► I mean I guess it is it's a little bit [TS]

00:58:22 ◼   ► more tied to the fabric of the universe [TS]

00:58:24 ◼   ► question and it's not just the distance [TS]

00:58:26 ◼   ► do you hear elbow and your middle finger [TS]

00:58:29 ◼   ► it's a little bit more gonna get the [TS]

00:58:31 ◼   ► memories though the memories part of [TS]

00:58:33 ◼   ► what would make the think it depends on [TS]

00:58:35 ◼   ► what you're going to use the memories [TS]

00:58:36 ◼   ► for the water obviously one has been [TS]

00:58:38 ◼   ► purified can be used for lots of [TS]

00:58:39 ◼   ► different things but part of what makes [TS]

00:58:41 ◼   ► the memory special is that they are [TS]

00:58:42 ◼   ► unique or at least differentiated is [TS]

00:58:45 ◼   ► should we make any attempt to keep them [TS]

00:58:47 ◼   ► in in silence by different type of [TS]

00:58:49 ◼   ► memory by age of memory the accuracy of [TS]

00:58:52 ◼   ► memory or does it just become part of [TS]

00:58:54 ◼   ► the same large emotional slurry know [TS]

00:58:57 ◼   ► their whole usefulness is it is it in [TS]

00:58:59 ◼   ► the ability to cross-reference them [TS]

00:59:01 ◼   ► right so if you're having if you're if [TS]

00:59:03 ◼   ► you want to if you want to access you [TS]

00:59:06 ◼   ► know somebody's memory bad memory of a [TS]

00:59:08 ◼   ► clown at a birthday party [TS]

00:59:10 ◼   ► yeah you know you can come out that what [TS]

00:59:12 ◼   ► will get 13 cut to the 23 of those a [TS]

00:59:15 ◼   ► typical baseball game absolutely oh my [TS]

00:59:17 ◼   ► god i have one [TS]

00:59:18 ◼   ► yeah right i would say i would i would [TS]

00:59:20 ◼   ► estimate there were 500 bad clown [TS]

00:59:22 ◼   ► memories at any at any birthday [TS]

00:59:24 ◼   ► I'm sorry any baseball game at 500 bad [TS]

00:59:27 ◼   ► clown memory cloud memories that that [TS]

00:59:30 ◼   ► rise up to level like that's a bad [TS]

00:59:31 ◼   ► memory [TS]

00:59:32 ◼   ► and I don't like like that's a bad club [TS]

00:59:34 ◼   ► right but you need to be able to get to [TS]

00:59:36 ◼   ► that by obviously you're going to you [TS]

00:59:38 ◼   ► want to search bad clowns but you're [TS]

00:59:39 ◼   ► also going to want to search bad [TS]

00:59:40 ◼   ► memories childhood memories you know [TS]

00:59:43 ◼   ► traumatic events right now is the circus [TS]

00:59:46 ◼   ► related memories [TS]

00:59:47 ◼   ► yep yeah and then you you're saying it's [TS]

00:59:49 ◼   ► a cross-reference there's there's like a [TS]

00:59:50 ◼   ► kalica implicit database that combines [TS]

00:59:54 ◼   ► all all the different clan member don't [TS]

00:59:56 ◼   ► have to be this is this is the promise [TS]

00:59:57 ◼   ► of the internet that we keep failing to [TS]

00:59:59 ◼   ► realize [TS]

00:59:59 ◼   ► realize [TS]

01:00:00 ◼   ► yeah like it's all its supposed to be [TS]

01:00:02 ◼   ► all there and and I'm i continue to be [TS]

01:00:05 ◼   ► astonished at how poorly so many people [TS]

01:00:09 ◼   ► search the internet it seems to me that [TS]

01:00:13 ◼   ► most things i want to find it takes two [TS]

01:00:18 ◼   ► or three stabs at most to figure out the [TS]

01:00:23 ◼   ► magic combination of words right that's [TS]

01:00:25 ◼   ► going to get the thing I'm looking for [TS]

01:00:27 ◼   ► in the top three search results and I [TS]

01:00:29 ◼   ► think I know why it's not because you [TS]

01:00:31 ◼   ► don't know what you're looking well it [TS]

01:00:33 ◼   ► may be partly you don't know what you're [TS]

01:00:34 ◼   ► looking for I think it mainly is that [TS]

01:00:35 ◼   ► the first search you do on something is [TS]

01:00:37 ◼   ► where you learn how the computer thinks [TS]

01:00:40 ◼   ► about that's exactly right [TS]

01:00:41 ◼   ► what words is the computer thinking who [TS]

01:00:44 ◼   ► because I you know I ask questions of [TS]

01:00:46 ◼   ► the computer in full sentences like you [TS]

01:00:49 ◼   ► do [TS]

01:00:50 ◼   ► that's adorable yes you would say what [TS]

01:00:54 ◼   ► is the weight in grams of an average [TS]

01:00:57 ◼   ► clown bad clown memory [TS]

01:00:59 ◼   ► absolutely i would type that in and then [TS]

01:01:01 ◼   ► I would you know the first set of search [TS]

01:01:04 ◼   ► results would be all like vape pens [TS]

01:01:08 ◼   ► uh-huh and I'd be like what is this [TS]

01:01:09 ◼   ► about why am i getting vape pen results [TS]

01:01:11 ◼   ► oh right [TS]

01:01:13 ◼   ► grams and clowns gram grams and clowns [TS]

01:01:18 ◼   ► sent me right to some juggalo drug [TS]

01:01:21 ◼   ► dealer sites and I was like fuck right [TS]

01:01:24 ◼   ► okay modified search you know and then [TS]

01:01:28 ◼   ► he he come at a different way like I'm [TS]

01:01:30 ◼   ► not actually it the salient point is not [TS]

01:01:33 ◼   ► the clown memories [TS]

01:01:34 ◼   ► specifically I want to get at this [TS]

01:01:36 ◼   ► through the memory like the weight of [TS]

01:01:40 ◼   ► memories for some reason and now I can't [TS]

01:01:42 ◼   ► stop thinking it was really creepy clown [TS]

01:01:44 ◼   ► vaping and just got like five times of [TS]

01:01:46 ◼   ► course right now your hands on a break [TS]

01:01:49 ◼   ► is he's not break sitting out back with [TS]

01:01:51 ◼   ► his head and then go like magnets how do [TS]

01:01:56 ◼   ► they work [TS]

01:01:57 ◼   ► i'm so baked so yeah but you know I try [TS]

01:02:02 ◼   ► to ask full sentences the computer [TS]

01:02:04 ◼   ► because I understand that the computer [TS]

01:02:05 ◼   ► is learning and you know if you want to [TS]

01:02:08 ◼   ► learn like good grammar and punctuation [TS]

01:02:09 ◼   ► that's right i wanted to learn to be [TS]

01:02:11 ◼   ► able to answer my question so the other [TS]

01:02:12 ◼   ► day [TS]

01:02:12 ◼   ► out so I had a nice experience in [TS]

01:02:14 ◼   ► portland i decided that i was going to [TS]

01:02:18 ◼   ► go up to the Alberta neighborhood which [TS]

01:02:22 ◼   ► i have watched evolved over that my 25 [TS]

01:02:25 ◼   ► years of going to portland from a street [TS]

01:02:27 ◼   ► that had nothing of interest on it to a [TS]

01:02:30 ◼   ► street that was you know being [TS]

01:02:32 ◼   ► rehabilitated and colonized and now it's [TS]

01:02:36 ◼   ► a street where there are bars and their [TS]

01:02:40 ◼   ► artisanal ice cream places and there are [TS]

01:02:43 ◼   ► places where they make handbags out of [TS]

01:02:45 ◼   ► sales and there are places where they [TS]

01:02:48 ◼   ► sell space pens and little books of [TS]

01:02:51 ◼   ► waterproof matches all a quadruple the [TS]

01:02:55 ◼   ► price of what they should be places [TS]

01:02:58 ◼   ► where that's all locally sourced it's [TS]

01:02:59 ◼   ► all locally sourced people places where [TS]

01:03:01 ◼   ► there was a there's a store where they [TS]

01:03:03 ◼   ► were selling simple lighters that were [TS]

01:03:04 ◼   ► carved out of wood which seemed to me to [TS]

01:03:07 ◼   ► be [TS]

01:03:07 ◼   ► haha that's a terrible and the wooden [TS]

01:03:10 ◼   ► lighter [TS]

01:03:10 ◼   ► yep ok dash wax and all this all the [TS]

01:03:14 ◼   ► above that's the hitch wax cases [TS]

01:03:16 ◼   ► mustache wax cases carrying look Karen [TS]

01:03:19 ◼   ► that mustache wax case box bags [TS]

01:03:23 ◼   ► yeah and then a lot of things that that [TS]

01:03:25 ◼   ► that like Seattle can't do this anymore [TS]