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Roderick on the Line

Ep. 169: "Again With the Pie"

 

00:00:00   this episode of Roderick online is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/0">TS</a>]

00:00:02   sponsored by cards against humanity this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2">TS</a>]

00:00:04   month they invited set boyer to help me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/4">TS</a>]

00:00:07   say hi to john came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/7">TS</a>]

00:00:20   hello hi John hi bear would posit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/20">TS</a>]

00:00:24   colleague pretty good it sounds like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/24">TS</a>]

00:00:27   congested jello biafra who a Pepsi blue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/27">TS</a>]

00:00:32   fish and dyad fucking dragon lady fights [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/32">TS</a>]

00:00:37   tied but I don't know what's going on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/37">TS</a>]

00:00:41   with me i was up until four thirty in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/41">TS</a>]

00:00:43   the morning last night and then I i've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/43">TS</a>]

00:00:46   reverted immediately to type right by my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/46">TS</a>]

00:00:50   people are all in France and it took me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/50">TS</a>]

00:00:52   three days to just like completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/52">TS</a>]

00:00:54   completely reverb yeah that's it that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/54">TS</a>]

00:00:58   all it took m130 in the morning but now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/58">TS</a>]

00:01:00   it seems to me that yet on the one hand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/60">TS</a>]

00:01:02   it is your natural predilection to be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/62">TS</a>]

00:01:04   night owl but on the other hand the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/64">TS</a>]

00:01:06   thing that brings the night owl pneus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/66">TS</a>]

00:01:07   out in you is some kind of an interest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/67">TS</a>]

00:01:10   often online where were you drawn to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/70">TS</a>]

00:01:12   that are you sorting things what kept [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/72">TS</a>]

00:01:14   you up I was balancing angels ok on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/74">TS</a>]

00:01:20   head of a pin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/80">TS</a>]

00:01:21   oh that's so nice and then I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/81">TS</a>]

00:01:23   balancing the entire contraption on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/83">TS</a>]

00:01:25   tip of my finger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/85">TS</a>]

00:01:26   mm see angels all the way down that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/86">TS</a>]

00:01:29   right so if you can sit right very right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/89">TS</a>]

00:01:31   so if you can imagine it's kind of a tea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/91">TS</a>]

00:01:33   at Rosings ani it's a little bit of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/93">TS</a>]

00:01:36   circus circus but the latest la banda [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/96">TS</a>]

00:01:41   saturday for the central pay ten it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/101">TS</a>]

00:01:44   got it's a it's a flying Karamazov [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/104">TS</a>]

00:01:46   brothers of angels ooh tiny angels it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/106">TS</a>]

00:01:51   like a heavenly flea circus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/111">TS</a>]

00:01:53   that's precisely what it is i pay for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/113">TS</a>]

00:01:56   that you know I that's when people that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/116">TS</a>]

00:01:57   when people would say how many angels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/117">TS</a>]

00:01:59   can you balance on that of a pin i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/119">TS</a>]

00:02:01   always imagined it just like a flea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/121">TS</a>]

00:02:03   circus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/123">TS</a>]

00:02:03   I don't know what you don't you say all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/123">TS</a>]

00:02:05   of them that was like sure if that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/125">TS</a>]

00:02:07   the google interview question i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/127">TS</a>]

00:02:09   just say all of them problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/129">TS</a>]

00:02:10   yeah i mean how many prove me wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/130">TS</a>]

00:02:13   show your math every angel all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/133">TS</a>]

00:02:17   Angels even all the great angels even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/137">TS</a>]

00:02:20   the late angel but the to the chubby [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/140">TS</a>]

00:02:23   angel that's always late [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/143">TS</a>]

00:02:24   i'm sowwy he's gonna come up and pop in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/144">TS</a>]

00:02:27   the future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/147">TS</a>]

00:02:28   he gets on there too sowwy bars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/148">TS</a>]

00:02:32   angel angel well I'll have your badge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/152">TS</a>]

00:02:37   I was gonna ask you how life without the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/157">TS</a>]

00:02:39   family i think i mentioned probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/159">TS</a>]

00:02:41   after we stopped recording last time I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/161">TS</a>]

00:02:42   can't recall but just how i descend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/162">TS</a>]

00:02:44   usually within less than 36 hours into a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/164">TS</a>]

00:02:48   nearly feral State yeah that was part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/168">TS</a>]

00:02:50   the Roderick on the line after dark [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/170">TS</a>]

00:02:53   after dark that we always don't record [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/173">TS</a>]

00:02:56   that's right we're just doing shots and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/176">TS</a>]

00:02:57   talking about life just talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/177">TS</a>]

00:02:59   like some of the funniest stuff some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/179">TS</a>]

00:03:00   the most amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/180">TS</a>]

00:03:02   oh my gosh we have fun don't we boy we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/182">TS</a>]

00:03:04   really do we get in there we talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/184">TS</a>]

00:03:05   get religion you get sent me some of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/185">TS</a>]

00:03:08   stuff that we can talk about on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/188">TS</a>]

00:03:09   program Ron Paul revolution [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/189">TS</a>]

00:03:11   well it's all in there yeah you i mean i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/191">TS</a>]

00:03:14   have seen you get turned into a feral [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/194">TS</a>]

00:03:17   dog so fast faster than almost any other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/197">TS</a>]

00:03:20   person if you if you are not like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/200">TS</a>]

00:03:24   actually literally being shaved like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/204">TS</a>]

00:03:30   restrained at some kind of a clinic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/210">TS</a>]

00:03:32   well just like it as you are shaving one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/212">TS</a>]

00:03:35   part of you the other part is bursting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/215">TS</a>]

00:03:38   forth like you know Wolverine styling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/218">TS</a>]

00:03:41   yeah well here's the thing well here's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/221">TS</a>]

00:03:42   the hmm here's the thing about that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/222">TS</a>]

00:03:45   that I am less of a totally distracted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/225">TS</a>]

00:03:50   basket case then i have been at other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/230">TS</a>]

00:03:51   times in my life but I am still a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/231">TS</a>]

00:03:54   distractible basket case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/234">TS</a>]

00:03:55   so you know it'sit's you see me in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/235">TS</a>]

00:03:57   home like a come in i've got a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/237">TS</a>]

00:03:59   bag of stuff and pretty soon the stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/239">TS</a>]

00:04:00   is everywhere and I can't find anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/240">TS</a>]

00:04:02   i don't have to feed myself anymore i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/242">TS</a>]

00:04:03   get i get very confused very quickly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/243">TS</a>]

00:04:05   yeah yeah well and it's a it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/245">TS</a>]

00:04:07   delightful it's what makes us great it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/247">TS</a>]

00:04:09   a great effect to have at a bar right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/249">TS</a>]

00:04:14   when you when I see you come into a bar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/254">TS</a>]

00:04:15   and you spread your stuff all around and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/255">TS</a>]

00:04:18   and that night riii stand by the door [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/258">TS</a>]

00:04:20   with everything in my bag the bag is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/260">TS</a>]

00:04:22   zipped up and I am no more than three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/262">TS</a>]

00:04:24   paces from the door at all really soon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/264">TS</a>]

00:04:26   you're standing on a barstool heart the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/266">TS</a>]

00:04:29   bartender is is a is it becomes a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/269">TS</a>]

00:04:32   lifelong friend i'm a call that's true i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/272">TS</a>]

00:04:35   make knocking excellent grandma moses i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/275">TS</a>]

00:04:37   am ready to go anywhere very quickly I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/277">TS</a>]

00:04:39   am i'm kind of a little bit famous for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/279">TS</a>]

00:04:42   this I think is heard of the protocol [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/282">TS</a>]

00:04:43   the French accent I've heard it called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/283">TS</a>]

00:04:45   the irish exit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/285">TS</a>]

00:04:46   I'm not sure what kind of exit is but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/286">TS</a>]

00:04:49   don't like taking a long time to leave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/289">TS</a>]

00:04:52   somewhere so whereas i will spread out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/292">TS</a>]

00:04:54   in a hotel room or your home in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/294">TS</a>]

00:04:56   little special secret room under the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/296">TS</a>]

00:04:58   stairs i will take harry potter sleeping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/298">TS</a>]

00:05:01   in John's house i will keep all of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/301">TS</a>]

00:05:03   stuff ready I am always waiting for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/303">TS</a>]

00:05:05   opportunity to leave anywhere all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/305">TS</a>]

00:05:07   time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/307">TS</a>]

00:05:07   that's what is because why I always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/307">TS</a>]

00:05:09   imagined that backpack was actually a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/309">TS</a>]

00:05:10   parachute right part of it is like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/310">TS</a>]

00:05:13   rash you can't say what the rest is yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/313">TS</a>]

00:05:15   and i know you like to be the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/315">TS</a>]

00:05:16   person to dive onto the plane or the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/316">TS</a>]

00:05:18   last person to dive off of the muni [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/318">TS</a>]

00:05:20   train [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/320">TS</a>]

00:05:20   I've seen this you I used to think you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/320">TS</a>]

00:05:22   were making it up but it's true you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/322">TS</a>]

00:05:23   stand dead still in my pajamas are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/323">TS</a>]

00:05:25   stopped and you're like kind of comic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/325">TS</a>]

00:05:27   barely moving your head shaking i got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/327">TS</a>]

00:05:29   like don't even acknowledge that were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/329">TS</a>]

00:05:31   together this can be used against us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/331">TS</a>]

00:05:33   later and in film you gotta get through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/333">TS</a>]

00:05:35   that door at the last possible second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/335">TS</a>]

00:05:37   house and I because yeah because reasons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/337">TS</a>]

00:05:39   because reason because privacy secrecy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/339">TS</a>]

00:05:42   now that it didn't you in your behind a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/342">TS</a>]

00:05:46   couple times in the last couple years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/346">TS</a>]

00:05:48   hasn't it didn't miss a flight recently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/348">TS</a>]

00:05:50   because of that you know what I missed a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/350">TS</a>]

00:05:51   couple of flights and what happened was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/351">TS</a>]

00:05:53   the airline industry keeps changing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/353">TS</a>]

00:05:56   rules it keeps moving the goalposts so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/356">TS</a>]

00:06:00   they started doing this thing where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/360">TS</a>]

00:06:02   they're like well if you're not you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/362">TS</a>]

00:06:03   the the flight leaves at seven forty but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/363">TS</a>]

00:06:07   the doors close at seven twenty yep and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/367">TS</a>]

00:06:11   it's like what was then the flight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/371">TS</a>]

00:06:13   leaves at seven twenty no no the flight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/373">TS</a>]

00:06:16   leaves at seven forty but the doors and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/376">TS</a>]

00:06:19   I'm like well no that's not on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/379">TS</a>]

00:06:20   ticket dude butterflies names doors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/380">TS</a>]

00:06:22   doors being printed on the ticket right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/382">TS</a>]

00:06:24   I've been on plenty of flights that left [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/384">TS</a>]

00:06:25   at 740 where the door is closed at seven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/385">TS</a>]

00:06:28   forty and then the plane sat at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/388">TS</a>]

00:06:31   airport for another hour and a half or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/391">TS</a>]

00:06:33   so let's not fuck around with like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/393">TS</a>]

00:06:36   flight leaves its when the doors closes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/396">TS</a>]

00:06:38   when the flight leaves so yeah I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/398">TS</a>]

00:06:40   sitting in the sitting in the airport [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/400">TS</a>]

00:06:41   looking around enjoying myself cleaning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/401">TS</a>]

00:06:45   my nails yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/405">TS</a>]

00:06:46   scanning for a people and sandals [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/406">TS</a>]

00:06:49   that's right look that's right making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/409">TS</a>]

00:06:51   sure that the that there's not some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/411">TS</a>]

00:06:53   screaming baby issuing citations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/413">TS</a>]

00:06:55   a little you know a little bit yeah you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/415">TS</a>]

00:06:57   want to make sure the thing about a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/417">TS</a>]

00:06:59   specter agent who is that you're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/419">TS</a>]

00:07:01   to be able to pick that Spectre agent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/421">TS</a>]

00:07:03   out not by their own behavior but how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/423">TS</a>]

00:07:05   they react to your behavior and then all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/425">TS</a>]

00:07:08   of a sudden I look up in the doors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/428">TS</a>]

00:07:10   yes I write what I walk over and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/430">TS</a>]

00:07:11   like a I'm on this line they're like not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/431">TS</a>]

00:07:14   anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/434">TS</a>]

00:07:15   good luck finding somebody i'm off and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/435">TS</a>]

00:07:18   bet those reasons for this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/438">TS</a>]

00:07:19   I bet I I think I know two things about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/439">TS</a>]

00:07:21   this kind of i know that an airplane [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/441">TS</a>]

00:07:24   only makes money when it's in the air [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/444">TS</a>]

00:07:25   and I know that there's a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/445">TS</a>]

00:07:28   pressure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/448">TS</a>]

00:07:29   I pretty sure is a lot of pressure on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/449">TS</a>]

00:07:31   the whole flight crew to keep their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/451">TS</a>]

00:07:33   delays down because it looks bad to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/453">TS</a>]

00:07:35   company and it looks bad to the public [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/455">TS</a>]

00:07:36   when you go look something up online [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/456">TS</a>]

00:07:37   records on this stuff right we got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/457">TS</a>]

00:07:39   record i sent you that link to that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/459">TS</a>]

00:07:41   that amazing website where you can watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/461">TS</a>]

00:07:42   real time flight information like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/462">TS</a>]

00:07:45   know you know that's not likely exposed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/465">TS</a>]

00:07:46   you can go and see hey this this flight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/466">TS</a>]

00:07:48   from San Francisco Portland is a is late [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/468">TS</a>]

00:07:51   you know fourteen percent of the time or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/471">TS</a>]

00:07:53   so yeah so I'll bet that's it is also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/473">TS</a>]

00:07:55   that maybe there's something that makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/475">TS</a>]

00:07:57   them look better they get everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/477">TS</a>]

00:07:58   backed into the fart tube quicker and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/478">TS</a>]

00:08:01   that looks better on their quarterly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/481">TS</a>]

00:08:02   report may be so I am incapable of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/482">TS</a>]

00:08:06   a lot of people my generation night and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/486">TS</a>]

00:08:08   I don't you know we love you in to my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/488">TS</a>]

00:08:10   generation me let me know when you're 18 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/490">TS</a>]

00:08:12   months older than me or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/492">TS</a>]

00:08:15   coupled in that but I find that I am now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/495">TS</a>]

00:08:21   constitutionally incapable of having em [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/501">TS</a>]

00:08:23   any sympathy or even like certainly no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/503">TS</a>]

00:08:28   co measure commas commiseration but also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/508">TS</a>]

00:08:30   like no even like shared understanding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/510">TS</a>]

00:08:34   with anyone in the airline industry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/514">TS</a>]

00:08:36   right i cannot even if all the facts are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/516">TS</a>]

00:08:39   there if it's all laid out like oh this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/519">TS</a>]

00:08:41   makes perfect sense i cannot sympathize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/521">TS</a>]

00:08:43   with them because they are because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/523">TS</a>]

00:08:46   seems to me that they have all agreed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/526">TS</a>]

00:08:47   that their business model relies on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/527">TS</a>]

00:08:49   torturing people before for money i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/529">TS</a>]

00:08:53   think this becoming it's funny because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/533">TS</a>]

00:08:55   in that it's not like they didn't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/535">TS</a>]

00:08:57   to make money 50 years ago but for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/537">TS</a>]

00:08:59   variety of reasons that are too likely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/539">TS</a>]

00:09:01   to get into today it is a naturally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/541">TS</a>]

00:09:03   necessarily adversarial relationship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/543">TS</a>]

00:09:06   with a lot of gotchas and like anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/546">TS</a>]

00:09:08   when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/548">TS</a>]

00:09:08   just certain age you're always wondering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/548">TS</a>]

00:09:10   who's trying to fuck you like who's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/550">TS</a>]

00:09:11   gonna screw me today and like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/551">TS</a>]

00:09:13   should I be looking for and in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/553">TS</a>]

00:09:15   airline industry I mean that is real it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/555">TS</a>]

00:09:17   is totally real they're going to do as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/557">TS</a>]

00:09:19   little as possible for you with a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/559">TS</a>]

00:09:20   resources as possible and find as many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/560">TS</a>]

00:09:22   things they can't charge for kids that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/562">TS</a>]

00:09:24   just the way the industry works and to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/564">TS</a>]

00:09:26   act like it's anything else and talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/566">TS</a>]

00:09:27   about things like loyalty loyalty really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/567">TS</a>]

00:09:29   what's your loyalty to me i can't find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/569">TS</a>]

00:09:31   anybody to talk to get my family on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/571">TS</a>]

00:09:32   plane [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/572">TS</a>]

00:09:33   yeah well I'm and the and more than any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/573">TS</a>]

00:09:36   other more than any other thing in them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/576">TS</a>]

00:09:39   in the contemporary world they have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/579">TS</a>]

00:09:41   they have adopted the idea that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/581">TS</a>]

00:09:44   seniority by which they mean this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/584">TS</a>]

00:09:48   strange loyalty thing that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/588">TS</a>]

00:09:50   talking about like the more money that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/590">TS</a>]

00:09:51   you pay to us the more opportunities [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/591">TS</a>]

00:09:56   were going to give you to opt out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/596">TS</a>]

00:09:59   being waterboarded yeah and and without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/599">TS</a>]

00:10:03   that without that uh that by him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/603">TS</a>]

00:10:08   your only other option is to pay a user [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/608">TS</a>]

00:10:12   eous fee you know to pay twenty-five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/612">TS</a>]

00:10:15   hundred dollars for a ticket right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/615">TS</a>]

00:10:17   look at the at the middling levels of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/617">TS</a>]

00:10:19   that seniority you mainly get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/619">TS</a>]

00:10:21   opportunity to pay slightly less to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/621">TS</a>]

00:10:23   waterboarded but your student to not be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/623">TS</a>]

00:10:25   waterboarded but you're gonna pay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/625">TS</a>]

00:10:26   yeah you're still gonna you're still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/626">TS</a>]

00:10:27   going to sit in in a in an iron maiden [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/627">TS</a>]

00:10:30   while we like pissing your mat so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/630">TS</a>]

00:10:33   only way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/633">TS</a>]

00:10:33   mmm that sounds very adult forget to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/633">TS</a>]

00:10:36   Like lufthansa the actually there there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/636">TS</a>]

00:10:39   it's called the it's called the what was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/639">TS</a>]

00:10:41   that may be nicer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/641">TS</a>]

00:10:42   that's what was the one we crashed in me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/642">TS</a>]

00:10:44   in in the Alps the guy decided that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/644">TS</a>]

00:10:47   will write that I've done I'm done you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/647">TS</a>]

00:10:48   know it's not easy jet it was fly it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/648">TS</a>]

00:10:51   5i applies and scheisse like sunshine i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/651">TS</a>]

00:10:55   was Luke chase shy set but you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/655">TS</a>]

00:10:58   absolutely right knee and the only way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/658">TS</a>]

00:11:00   that happens is deliberate like we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/660">TS</a>]

00:11:02   gonna I mean it's a total win for them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/662">TS</a>]

00:11:04   you get a lighter narrower seat you put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/664">TS</a>]

00:11:07   more people into the into the fart tube [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/667">TS</a>]

00:11:09   and then you charge them to basically to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/669">TS</a>]

00:11:12   be in a seat that is that is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/672">TS</a>]

00:11:13   deliberately uncomfortable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/673">TS</a>]

00:11:15   oh and with the lean back lean not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/675">TS</a>]

00:11:18   looking was you know they they used all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/678">TS</a>]

00:11:20   that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/680">TS</a>]

00:11:20   after nine eleven gas prices went crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/680">TS</a>]

00:11:23   you know they they made all those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/683">TS</a>]

00:11:26   modifications and justified them at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/686">TS</a>]

00:11:28   time because gas is so expensive that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/688">TS</a>]

00:11:30   they couldn't possibly profit anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/690">TS</a>]

00:11:32   and so they had to do this they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/692">TS</a>]

00:11:34   being forced to do this by economics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/694">TS</a>]

00:11:38   they're being forced to do this by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/698">TS</a>]

00:11:39   market there was no other way airlines [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/699">TS</a>]

00:11:41   were going the whole idea of flying was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/701">TS</a>]

00:11:45   going to disappear from our minds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/705">TS</a>]

00:11:48   because of because gas prices that made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/708">TS</a>]

00:11:50   it had made it impossible and then when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/710">TS</a>]

00:11:54   gas prices went down again they did not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/714">TS</a>]

00:11:59   it was not like these are emergency [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/719">TS</a>]

00:12:01   measures and we're going to repeal them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/721">TS</a>]

00:12:03   as soon as this this national crisis is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/723">TS</a>]

00:12:06   over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/726">TS</a>]

00:12:07   like when gas prices went down they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/727">TS</a>]

00:12:09   continued up you continued on that on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/729">TS</a>]

00:12:13   that on that are just like oh wow we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/733">TS</a>]

00:12:15   figured out that we can take away all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/735">TS</a>]

00:12:17   the padding from the seats and people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/737">TS</a>]

00:12:19   still fly what would happen if we put a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/739">TS</a>]

00:12:23   dead rat in every fourth seat under the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/743">TS</a>]

00:12:27   padding but people still fly appears [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/747">TS</a>]

00:12:29   they do and what would happen if we put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/749">TS</a>]

00:12:32   a hat pin in every 15th armrest wow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/752">TS</a>]

00:12:37   people let's put one in every arm rest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/757">TS</a>]

00:12:39   well let's be honest gas prices were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/759">TS</a>]

00:12:41   pretty expensive so happens at pins [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/761">TS</a>]

00:12:44   right let's take let's make sure let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/764">TS</a>]

00:12:46   let's make it impossible to check a bag [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/766">TS</a>]

00:12:47   and and then it turns into a kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/767">TS</a>]

00:12:51   like world war z on every airplane as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/771">TS</a>]

00:12:55   people try to cram their luggage in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/775">TS</a>]

00:12:57   overhead compartments which used to that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/777">TS</a>]

00:13:00   you know you overhead compartments you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/780">TS</a>]

00:13:02   used to be able to you could have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/782">TS</a>]

00:13:04   skateboarding competition and mostly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/784">TS</a>]

00:13:06   they were empty because people people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/786">TS</a>]

00:13:08   are going to bags and a sousaphone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/788">TS</a>]

00:13:09   because they don't spend $15 and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/789">TS</a>]

00:13:12   happy they're happy to charge you for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/792">TS</a>]

00:13:13   that yeah so then the airline's then it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/793">TS</a>]

00:13:14   then it takes 45 minutes to board [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/794">TS</a>]

00:13:16   instead of 15 minutes to board and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/796">TS</a>]

00:13:18   they're like oh boy we're running out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/798">TS</a>]

00:13:20   where you know it takes too long to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/800">TS</a>]

00:13:21   board so now the door is closed 20 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/801">TS</a>]

00:13:23   minutes guys to me the huge question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/803">TS</a>]

00:13:26   mark is well first of all you have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/806">TS</a>]

00:13:28   the human problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/808">TS</a>]

00:13:29   of well the human and business problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/809">TS</a>]

00:13:31   of there are more and more people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/811">TS</a>]

00:13:32   traveling who are bringing big things on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/812">TS</a>]

00:13:34   every extra thing that somebody brings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/814">TS</a>]

00:13:36   on there i think has a geometric [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/816">TS</a>]

00:13:38   contribution to how long it takes and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/818">TS</a>]

00:13:40   people don't understand like get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/820">TS</a>]

00:13:41   fuck out of the aisle get out of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/821">TS</a>]

00:13:43   i'll spend no time in the aisle unless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/823">TS</a>]

00:13:45   you are moving movement ok they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/825">TS</a>]

00:13:47   get that but then I don't understand i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/827">TS</a>]

00:13:50   think this has been experimented with on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/830">TS</a>]

00:13:52   various airlines but the way these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/832">TS</a>]

00:13:53   planes board is bananas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/833">TS</a>]

00:13:55   why well first of all there's no like of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/835">TS</a>]

00:13:57   seeming science to like figuring out how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/837">TS</a>]

00:13:59   to load from the back first and there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/839">TS</a>]

00:14:01   also the financial component of hey it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/841">TS</a>]

00:14:03   not it's not gonna be fair to all those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/843">TS</a>]

00:14:05   all those seniority people to let the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/845">TS</a>]

00:14:08   people in the back of the plane get on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/848">TS</a>]

00:14:10   first right they have to be want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/850">TS</a>]

00:14:12   spend as much time on the plan as you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/852">TS</a>]

00:14:13   possibly can he might be at you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/853">TS</a>]

00:14:15   active military service in uniform [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/855">TS</a>]

00:14:17   platinum gold silver plus international [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/857">TS</a>]

00:14:19   100k with a child that needs extra time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/859">TS</a>]

00:14:22   right right so i mean it's it's so funny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/862">TS</a>]

00:14:24   when I sometimes like recently on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/864">TS</a>]

00:14:26   flight was an easy flight to Portland [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/866">TS</a>]

00:14:28   not too long ago and i was saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/868">TS</a>]

00:14:29   seating group to because i was in like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/869">TS</a>]

00:14:33   United you know plus or whatever maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/873">TS</a>]

00:14:36   slightly bigger chair and I don't you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/876">TS</a>]

00:14:38   get priority boarding half the plane got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/878">TS</a>]

00:14:42   on your activity because you got 200 200 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/882">TS</a>]

00:14:45   game military yeah the diamond platinum [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/885">TS</a>]

00:14:50   silver group thank you for your service [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/890">TS</a>]

00:14:52   the thing that drives me crazy is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/892">TS</a>]

00:14:53   somewhere along the line at it as we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/893">TS</a>]

00:14:56   became as the airline's reduced us to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/896">TS</a>]

00:14:59   our tour most basic like bergen-belsen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/899">TS</a>]

00:15:05   that level of like a human animal God [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/905">TS</a>]

00:15:11   people forgot people people realized [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/911">TS</a>]

00:15:15   that even if they were seated in row 34 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/915">TS</a>]

00:15:17   they can put their bag [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/917">TS</a>]

00:15:20   oh yeah right and so all the people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/920">TS</a>]

00:15:25   loading of the back of the plan get on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/925">TS</a>]

00:15:26   they put their to put their bags in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/926">TS</a>]

00:15:29   first available bin right which which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/929">TS</a>]

00:15:31   might be on well 11 because they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/931">TS</a>]

00:15:34   going to have to go by there again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/934">TS</a>]

00:15:35   wonder where everyone have your back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/935">TS</a>]

00:15:37   behind you but you're more than happy to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/937">TS</a>]

00:15:39   your bag in front of you yeah so this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/939">TS</a>]

00:15:41   another this is another thing where I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/941">TS</a>]

00:15:43   used to sit in the airport and wait [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/943">TS</a>]

00:15:45   until the last possible moment and i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/945">TS</a>]

00:15:47   not you know what when they said we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/947">TS</a>]

00:15:50   going to charge you for the first six [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/950">TS</a>]

00:15:53   rows of coach we're going to charge you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/953">TS</a>]

00:15:55   a hundred dollars more for the six first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/955">TS</a>]

00:15:58   six rows of coach because we're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/958">TS</a>]

00:15:59   give you an inch more of legroom I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/959">TS</a>]

00:16:02   like okay you know what I turned into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/962">TS</a>]

00:16:05   Todd Barry I was like okay fine i'll pay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/965">TS</a>]

00:16:10   your hundred fucking dollars like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/970">TS</a>]

00:16:11   whatever I if you've got me right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/971">TS</a>]

00:16:17   I'm just a fucking I'm just a calf being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/977">TS</a>]

00:16:22   fatted for slaughter you just a meat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/982">TS</a>]

00:16:26   wallet is the big moist media object [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/986">TS</a>]

00:16:30   that happens to have a little bit of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/990">TS</a>]

00:16:31   money right and when they said now we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/991">TS</a>]

00:16:33   going to charge you to sit in the exit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/993">TS</a>]

00:16:35   row which is a which is this place as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/995">TS</a>]

00:16:37   seat which carries with it tremendous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/997">TS</a>]

00:16:39   responsibility and we're also going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/999">TS</a>]

00:16:42   charge you to adopt that responsibility [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1002">TS</a>]

00:16:44   and also seats don't recline I was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1004">TS</a>]

00:16:47   you know what fine okay fine but then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1007">TS</a>]

00:16:50   i'm sitting in the airport waiting for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1010">TS</a>]

00:16:53   the waiting to be the last person on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1013">TS</a>]

00:16:54   plane enjoying the airport ambiens not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1014">TS</a>]

00:16:57   yet crammed into the fart tube and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1017">TS</a>]

00:16:59   I am the last one on I get down to my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1019">TS</a>]

00:17:02   seat which i have paid a hundred dollars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1022">TS</a>]

00:17:04   extra for enroll one and there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1024">TS</a>]

00:17:08   place for my bag because somebody in row [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1028">TS</a>]

00:17:10   34 cramming their bag in there on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1030">TS</a>]

00:17:13   way by yep there's no there's no attempt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1033">TS</a>]

00:17:15   at the provenance they're not trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1035">TS</a>]

00:17:16   detect first of all I think they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1036">TS</a>]

00:17:18   super fast and loose about what people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1038">TS</a>]

00:17:20   actually carry on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1040">TS</a>]

00:17:21   they have all those owners signs and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1041">TS</a>]

00:17:22   shit but I see so many people carrying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1042">TS</a>]

00:17:25   three things on there and they got like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1045">TS</a>]

00:17:26   they got a fucking create a fruit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1046">TS</a>]

00:17:28   oh sure their whole marriage my medics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1048">TS</a>]

00:17:31   they vary as medics yeah yeah no they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1051">TS</a>]

00:17:34   not stopping them which is weird to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1054">TS</a>]

00:17:35   it's almost like they want to see us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1055">TS</a>]

00:17:36   fight it out mad max-style yeah because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1056">TS</a>]

00:17:39   you then you turn to the to the to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1059">TS</a>]

00:17:41   flight attendant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1061">TS</a>]

00:17:42   hey i'm in this seat and there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1062">TS</a>]

00:17:44   place for my bag and they look at you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1064">TS</a>]

00:17:46   like how like the other child to give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1066">TS</a>]

00:17:50   you never flown before don't you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1070">TS</a>]

00:17:52   you need to run in here and tear people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1072">TS</a>]

00:17:53   apart yeah yeah right exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1073">TS</a>]

00:17:56   oh yeah we know we called your row a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1076">TS</a>]

00:17:58   long time ago the guy said and I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1078">TS</a>]

00:18:00   like well yeah I know it's not like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1080">TS</a>]

00:18:04   called my row [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1084">TS</a>]

00:18:06   I mean I i get to get on when I want but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1086">TS</a>]

00:18:08   apparently there are new rules like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1088">TS</a>]

00:18:11   was new right up until five years ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1091">TS</a>]

00:18:14   you there was a general there was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1094">TS</a>]

00:18:17   social compact yeah you put your bag [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1097">TS</a>]

00:18:20   above your own seat it would never never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1100">TS</a>]

00:18:22   in a bike and I cannot imagine in 1999 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1102">TS</a>]

00:18:26   someone putting their bag above unless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1106">TS</a>]

00:18:30   you know unless it was like well it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1110">TS</a>]

00:18:32   never would have happened if you put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1112">TS</a>]

00:18:34   your bag of somebody else's seated never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1114">TS</a>]

00:18:35   would have had it would have it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1115">TS</a>]

00:18:36   have been like it would have been like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1116">TS</a>]

00:18:38   you put your underwear on somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1118">TS</a>]

00:18:40   else's head keep your underwear on your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1120">TS</a>]

00:18:43   own head over anyway Merlin I don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1123">TS</a>]

00:18:46   to turn our great show in this wonderful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1126">TS</a>]

00:18:49   time that you and I have to spend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1129">TS</a>]

00:18:51   together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1131">TS</a>]

00:18:51   yes into another anti airline podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1131">TS</a>]

00:18:56   there are so many of those that should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1136">TS</a>]

00:18:57   be that should be a spin-off and you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1137">TS</a>]

00:18:59   not you are about to get on an airplane [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1139">TS</a>]

00:19:02   yes are you what are you doing driving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1142">TS</a>]

00:19:04   yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1144">TS</a>]

00:19:05   yeah yeah yeah i bought my flight late [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1145">TS</a>]

00:19:07   and so I actually am in I'm in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1147">TS</a>]

00:19:11   bathroom area and there's exactly hoping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1151">TS</a>]

00:19:13   for one of the San Francisco to pdx [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1153">TS</a>]

00:19:14   plates [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1154">TS</a>]

00:19:15   it's like you're 30-something center [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1155">TS</a>]

00:19:17   seat but you know what skin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1157">TS</a>]

00:19:18   hour-and-a-half flight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1158">TS</a>]

00:19:19   yes you did stand on your head yeah yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1159">TS</a>]

00:19:22   I'm doing that is you just play Pocket [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1162">TS</a>]

00:19:25   pool for an hour and a half but maybe we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1165">TS</a>]

00:19:26   could have a blanket please I'm going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1166">TS</a>]

00:19:30   good too XOXO festival [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1170">TS</a>]

00:19:32   um excuse me could I have a fresh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1172">TS</a>]

00:19:34   blanket believe you would wake was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1174">TS</a>]

00:19:38   setting is it was that moist scraping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1178">TS</a>]

00:19:40   noise that monkey another the hydraulics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1180">TS</a>]

00:19:44   that's no 40 of shingles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1184">TS</a>]

00:19:47   ahh ladies and gentlemen once again can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1187">TS</a>]

00:19:52   I ask everybody with the with shingles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1192">TS</a>]

00:19:54   at any point our pint please stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1194">TS</a>]

00:19:57   servicing the shell hundred the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1197">TS</a>]

00:19:59   complimentary blanket once again like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1199">TS</a>]

00:20:02   this comment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1202">TS</a>]

00:20:02   Oh once again once again into the breach [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1202">TS</a>]

00:20:08   when immortan joe says that in in fury [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1208">TS</a>]

00:20:12   road it's funny because like i always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1212">TS</a>]

00:20:14   think of the airline's you know because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1214">TS</a>]

00:20:16   the very very very very very first words [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1216">TS</a>]

00:20:18   out of anyone's mouth on the plane every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1218">TS</a>]

00:20:20   time is like a lot of on your laptop to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1220">TS</a>]

00:20:23   facilitate high well Zaun pocket for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1223">TS</a>]

00:20:26   quiet place for out of the heart was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1226">TS</a>]

00:20:30   possible it was all so here's what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1230">TS</a>]

00:20:32   know what fuck this we're not gonna talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1232">TS</a>]

00:20:34   about planes i also hate how they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1234">TS</a>]

00:20:35   to have two words for everything you did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1235">TS</a>]

00:20:38   get up until you come to a full and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1238">TS</a>]

00:20:40   complete stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1240">TS</a>]

00:20:41   mm one great i got a whole list of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1241">TS</a>]

00:20:43   I believe that I've written I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1243">TS</a>]

00:20:44   written these down i have with me here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1244">TS</a>]

00:20:47   I know I read some short fiction about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1247">TS</a>]

00:20:48   this one time yeah about the about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1248">TS</a>]

00:20:50   use of two words to describe everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1250">TS</a>]

00:20:53   ok what are some of the other ones but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1253">TS</a>]

00:20:55   yeah there's a lot of redundancy on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1255">TS</a>]

00:20:57   plane anyway and I don't talk about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1257">TS</a>]

00:20:59   I've never read your fiction i feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1259">TS</a>]

00:21:00   this is something this is this to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1260">TS</a>]

00:21:04   there's a reason for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1264">TS</a>]

00:21:06   I won't even read my fiction who I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1266">TS</a>]

00:21:08   thought about this the other day why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1268">TS</a>]

00:21:10   don't you write fiction there was a time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1270">TS</a>]

00:21:11   when you were young you tried to write [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1271">TS</a>]

00:21:13   fiction wrote fiction all the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1273">TS</a>]

00:21:14   Sheriff fiction but uh but it's not it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1274">TS</a>]

00:21:17   just not in me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1277">TS</a>]

00:21:18   oh my goodness it's a who you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1278">TS</a>]

00:21:21   like yeah it's a lot of work and who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1281">TS</a>]

00:21:23   really wants to read it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1283">TS</a>]

00:21:24   yeah right you sit down here like uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1284">TS</a>]

00:21:26   mazing clots lives in a neighborhood in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1286">TS</a>]

00:21:34   a house they should always open with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1294">TS</a>]

00:21:36   whether that's the thing always open [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1296">TS</a>]

00:21:38   with whether Maisie Glotz looked out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1298">TS</a>]

00:21:39   upon the rain the pounding rain the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1299">TS</a>]

00:21:43   American seen purple throw like poetry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1303">TS</a>]

00:21:49   at this point you know like i said my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1309">TS</a>]

00:21:51   piece has a young verse Smith that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1311">TS</a>]

00:21:54   know the other people who read poems or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1314">TS</a>]

00:21:56   other poets and I know it's not entirely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1316">TS</a>]

00:21:59   true fiction today but it kind of feels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1319">TS</a>]

00:22:00   that way sometimes but it's just other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1320">TS</a>]

00:22:02   fiction writers we I don't know I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1322">TS</a>]

00:22:04   know I can say what I did this morning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1324">TS</a>]

00:22:05   i'm sitting here I'm gonna happen a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1325">TS</a>]

00:22:08   of pain right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1328">TS</a>]

00:22:09   Oh No [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1329">TS</a>]

00:22:10   you know they did you decide on a hat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1330">TS</a>]

00:22:13   pin in my dreams [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1333">TS</a>]

00:22:15   now I pulled a muscle in my neck opening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1335">TS</a>]

00:22:19   a curtain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1339">TS</a>]

00:22:20   Wow and it's an easy curtain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1340">TS</a>]

00:22:23   it's like a real light curtain all I did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1343">TS</a>]

00:22:24   was whisked away with with a kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1344">TS</a>]

00:22:27   like zen-like certainly like a wish and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1347">TS</a>]

00:22:29   I went a little bit too hard and now i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1349">TS</a>]

00:22:32   can barely move my head [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1352">TS</a>]

00:22:33   did did did did your children gather [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1353">TS</a>]

00:22:36   around and put your you're clear plastic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1356">TS</a>]

00:22:39   carapace on you're not haha yes they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1359">TS</a>]

00:22:44   separated they spray some stuff on the I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1364">TS</a>]

00:22:46   guess that's probably they're probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1366">TS</a>]

00:22:47   sunscreen they spray on Emma trapped in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1367">TS</a>]

00:22:49   your 59 Cadillac mark medals be so great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1369">TS</a>]

00:22:55   if my daughter would put me in a bit of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1375">TS</a>]

00:22:56   plastic carapace and pin my non-existent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1376">TS</a>]

00:22:58   metals to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1378">TS</a>]

00:22:59   yeah just be like you are chrome now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1379">TS</a>]

00:23:01   shiny chrome she's already at school CC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1381">TS</a>]

00:23:03   that you saw the movie huh what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1383">TS</a>]

00:23:05   talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1385">TS</a>]

00:23:06   yeah I want to see the movie the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1386">TS</a>]

00:23:08   night again at the cinerama oh nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1388">TS</a>]

00:23:14   Paul Allen's Paul Allen's in her life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1394">TS</a>]

00:23:17   and made outer and it was like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1397">TS</a>]

00:23:22   midnight show and I was driving around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1402">TS</a>]

00:23:26   the lonely streets pretty much exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1406">TS</a>]

00:23:31   like glenn frey in Joshua Tree know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1411">TS</a>]

00:23:37   we belong to the night [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1417">TS</a>]

00:23:38   oh yeah to see you know the steam coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1418">TS</a>]

00:23:42   out of this the steam holy very says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1422">TS</a>]

00:23:46   that cinematographic it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1426">TS</a>]

00:23:48   cinematographic I was driving around the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1428">TS</a>]

00:23:50   town all by my lonesome just just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1430">TS</a>]

00:23:53   looking at the night crawlers and I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1433">TS</a>]

00:23:56   like there's the cinerama oh they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1436">TS</a>]

00:23:58   playing uh mad max fury road [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1438">TS</a>]

00:24:00   oh there's a midnight show oh I'm gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1440">TS</a>]

00:24:03   go and hold them and I went inside by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1443">TS</a>]

00:24:04   myself in the middle of the night my god [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1444">TS</a>]

00:24:06   and it's a yeah it's it's I'm watching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1446">TS</a>]

00:24:12   it over and over now about the watch it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1452">TS</a>]

00:24:14   over and over stage I know me 2i and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1454">TS</a>]

00:24:16   don't really like a movie because i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1456">TS</a>]

00:24:19   watch it over and over all watch it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1459">TS</a>]

00:24:21   when I first got my hands on a copy i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1461">TS</a>]

00:24:23   was watching it twice a night which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1463">TS</a>]

00:24:25   weird every you got your hands on a copy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1465">TS</a>]

00:24:27   how do you do know you can't but as soon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1467">TS</a>]

00:24:29   as the movie would end and you know he'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1469">TS</a>]

00:24:32   give that little nod and then little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1472">TS</a>]

00:24:33   elevators going and you're like I'm like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1473">TS</a>]

00:24:35   that's it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1475">TS</a>]

00:24:36   no just turn it back on it- i really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1476">TS</a>]

00:24:38   like because i'll start like partway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1478">TS</a>]

00:24:39   through wrong I'll jump I'll jump [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1479">TS</a>]

00:24:40   straight to the like the last act or you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1480">TS</a>]

00:24:42   know I don't know I just want to watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1482">TS</a>]

00:24:44   that one wants that dust storm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1484">TS</a>]

00:24:47   oh man sequence i have talked about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1487">TS</a>]

00:24:50   a movie a lot in a lot of places so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1490">TS</a>]

00:24:53   don't overdo it but there is something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1493">TS</a>]

00:24:55   just spectacular about it and I sensed i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1495">TS</a>]

00:24:59   still am amazed and and watching the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1499">TS</a>]

00:25:01   behind-the-scenes stuff I can't talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1501">TS</a>]

00:25:03   about this a long time like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1503">TS</a>]

00:25:04   behind-the-scenes stuff where are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1504">TS</a>]

00:25:06   getting all this extra material [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1506">TS</a>]

00:25:08   well you can be something that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1508">TS</a>]

00:25:10   torrented I don't know what that is also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1510">TS</a>]

00:25:13   avoid torrance they're dangerous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1513">TS</a>]

00:25:14   did you go on the onion 1 the Deep Web i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1514">TS</a>]

00:25:18   watched the netflix movie about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1518">TS</a>]

00:25:20   darknet at the dark the dark web when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1520">TS</a>]

00:25:24   you tell you didn't tell you told you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1524">TS</a>]

00:25:25   not to go into his work is really more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1525">TS</a>]

00:25:27   about silk road it was something that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1527">TS</a>]

00:25:29   was meant to be so it's directed this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1529">TS</a>]

00:25:31   directed by Bill and Ted Bell Ted will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1531">TS</a>]

00:25:33   build directed it and Ted is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1533">TS</a>]

00:25:36   narrator and it's mostly about Silk Road [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1536">TS</a>]

00:25:38   out cocks to this and said his name was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1538">TS</a>]

00:25:41   not to get the decision Nancy I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1541">TS</a>]

00:25:42   confused [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1542">TS</a>]

00:25:43   well you know this pointer alex winter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1543">TS</a>]

00:25:45   this winter yeah so anyway it was good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1545">TS</a>]

00:25:48   and it was really sad it was super set i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1548">TS</a>]

00:25:50   learned that screams you ready for this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1550">TS</a>]

00:25:52   guess what turns out that I I one point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1552">TS</a>]

00:25:54   they showed they they said this guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1554">TS</a>]

00:25:56   lived in west portal and they showed a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1556">TS</a>]

00:25:59   flash and turns out he was living in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1559">TS</a>]

00:26:01   place that I go by all the time that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1561">TS</a>]

00:26:04   just about half a mile from my house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1564">TS</a>]

00:26:06   wow did you go knock on the front door [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1566">TS</a>]

00:26:08   is not listed as I've always known this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1568">TS</a>]

00:26:11   place to be totally sketch it has a real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1571">TS</a>]

00:26:12   Russian mobster feel you no idea if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1572">TS</a>]

00:26:15   you're leaving from my house take the l [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1575">TS</a>]

00:26:16   and you make that right turn onto 15 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1576">TS</a>]

00:26:18   yeah by the butcher shop and there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1578">TS</a>]

00:26:20   this place on the corner sometimes it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1580">TS</a>]

00:26:21   a beauty salon mostly just a lot of guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1581">TS</a>]

00:26:23   out front smoking coach across-the-board [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1583">TS</a>]

00:26:25   do it right and so yeah totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1585">TS</a>]

00:26:28   he had a sublet their he was they had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1588">TS</a>]

00:26:30   fake name and that's where the Silk Road [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1590">TS</a>]

00:26:32   guy live for a while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1592">TS</a>]

00:26:34   what a crazy if you watch that movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1594">TS</a>]

00:26:36   it's crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1596">TS</a>]

00:26:37   no because you know after my after my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1597">TS</a>]

00:26:39   several years on 4chan yeah probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1599">TS</a>]

00:26:42   I i purposely ejected myself from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1602">TS</a>]

00:26:50   seedy underbelly of the internet and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1610">TS</a>]

00:26:53   never to return it was you know there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1613">TS</a>]

00:26:57   was a there was a while there I was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1617">TS</a>]

00:26:58   listen I am NOT going to go gently into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1618">TS</a>]

00:27:01   this goodnight i'm gonna rage rage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1621">TS</a>]

00:27:03   against the dying of the light [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1623">TS</a>]

00:27:04   Who I am going to know about all of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1624">TS</a>]

00:27:09   dark corners as your peers your pecans [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1629">TS</a>]

00:27:12   and research right well be you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1632">TS</a>]

00:27:16   was not well just put your nose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1636">TS</a>]

00:27:20   no no that you're putting your nose into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1640">TS</a>]

00:27:22   a lot of dark corners because up until [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1642">TS</a>]

00:27:24   the up until the internet i try i tried [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1644">TS</a>]

00:27:29   as a young person to know all of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1649">TS</a>]

00:27:33   dark corners of life that I could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1653">TS</a>]

00:27:35   stomach firsthand right i went into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1655">TS</a>]

00:27:40   actual door of places that the that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1660">TS</a>]

00:27:45   repelled me because I didn't want to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1665">TS</a>]

00:27:48   somebody that didn't know uh the limits [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1668">TS</a>]

00:27:52   of at first I thought the limits of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1672">TS</a>]

00:27:54   human experience and then I realized I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1674">TS</a>]

00:27:56   was never I was not capable of exploring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1676">TS</a>]

00:27:59   the limits of human experience but I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1679">TS</a>]

00:28:02   capable likes exploring the limits of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1682">TS</a>]

00:28:04   own my own limits as far as like a where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1684">TS</a>]

00:28:09   I became not just uncomfortable but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1689">TS</a>]

00:28:12   where I became where I felt like under [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1692">TS</a>]

00:28:16   siege [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1696">TS</a>]

00:28:17   you know i would i would go do i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1697">TS</a>]

00:28:19   subject myself you're you're pushing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1699">TS</a>]

00:28:20   your own limits as well as discovering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1700">TS</a>]

00:28:23   the how far other people got ya right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1703">TS</a>]

00:28:26   and so like a good i participate in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1706">TS</a>]

00:28:29   rough trade no good eyewitness rough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1709">TS</a>]

00:28:33   trade yeah and-and-and that was part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1713">TS</a>]

00:28:38   how I was trying to make myself so when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1718">TS</a>]

00:28:40   it went a lot of that went to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1720">TS</a>]

00:28:42   internet I was like well i have to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1722">TS</a>]

00:28:45   know I can't let it go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1725">TS</a>]

00:28:47   I can't let there be worlds that I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1727">TS</a>]

00:28:50   know about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1730">TS</a>]

00:28:51   yeah i mean there are certainly corners [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1731">TS</a>]

00:28:52   of the world i prefer not to know about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1732">TS</a>]

00:28:54   but there can't be world's I don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1734">TS</a>]

00:28:56   any knowledge of and so yeah when I went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1736">TS</a>]

00:28:59   in there like who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1739">TS</a>]

00:29:01   who's in here you know slam open [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1741">TS</a>]

00:29:05   hello lose it and then I was like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1745">TS</a>]

00:29:07   shit yeah and uh and then I was then I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1747">TS</a>]

00:29:11   was quiet and sitting on a hard stool in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1751">TS</a>]

00:29:15   what I hoped wasn't unnoticeable corner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1755">TS</a>]

00:29:17   of a place where i was like a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1757">TS</a>]

00:29:21   this a large percentage of this is fake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1761">TS</a>]

00:29:23   but something or fake or heavily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1763">TS</a>]

00:29:28   exaggerated yeah it's like anything on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1768">TS</a>]

00:29:30   the internet like it doesn't cost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1770">TS</a>]

00:29:32   anything for a sixteen-year-old to dummy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1772">TS</a>]

00:29:37   up a a world and you just and you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1777">TS</a>]

00:29:41   see that it doesn't it doesn't hold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1781">TS</a>]

00:29:43   water and I'm not somebody that can can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1783">TS</a>]

00:29:47   say like oh that's been shipped or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1787">TS</a>]

00:29:49   whatever but enough of it is enough of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1789">TS</a>]

00:29:55   what i saw was just like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1795">TS</a>]

00:29:58   indisputably true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1798">TS</a>]

00:30:01   and-and-and-and I knew about it you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1801">TS</a>]

00:30:04   I knew about it in my in my mind's eye I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1804">TS</a>]

00:30:08   had read accounts but on the on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1808">TS</a>]

00:30:13   internet you see can see it you can pay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1813">TS</a>]

00:30:15   for it you know and I was like a right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1815">TS</a>]

00:30:19   so it is ultimately like kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1819">TS</a>]

00:30:22   limitless what humans can do and do do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1822">TS</a>]

00:30:27   I didn't I guess I needed that confirmed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1827">TS</a>]

00:30:31   yeah because you don't you don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1831">TS</a>]

00:30:34   about it and they're always there were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1834">TS</a>]

00:30:35   always doors that I didn't go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1835">TS</a>]

00:30:37   you know you go into the door and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1837">TS</a>]

00:30:39   there's a bunch of guys sitting around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1839">TS</a>]

00:30:40   you go through the second door and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1840">TS</a>]

00:30:42   there's fewer guys in there then they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1842">TS</a>]

00:30:43   make you uncomfortable and then there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1843">TS</a>]

00:30:44   a third door and the question in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1844">TS</a>]

00:30:46   everybody's eyes is like you're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1846">TS</a>]

00:30:47   go through the third door and most of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1847">TS</a>]

00:30:49   the time you say no as a matter of fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1849">TS</a>]

00:30:51   thank you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1851">TS</a>]

00:30:52   yeah this second door was enough for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1852">TS</a>]

00:30:54   makes me feel weird already I'm out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1854">TS</a>]

00:30:56   here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1856">TS</a>]

00:30:57   but but so yeah silkroad just seemed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1857">TS</a>]

00:31:01   like a bunch of people by an ecstasy on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1861">TS</a>]

00:31:03   the internet but some of that some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1863">TS</a>]

00:31:06   that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1866">TS</a>]

00:31:07   yes yeah i mean there are there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1867">TS</a>]

00:31:09   there are variety of well you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1869">TS</a>]

00:31:12   don't get too deep into it but I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1872">TS</a>]

00:31:13   there's nothing there's a lot of a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1873">TS</a>]

00:31:15   of good valid and noble even noble [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1875">TS</a>]

00:31:20   reasons for wanting to say hey look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1880">TS</a>]

00:31:22   not everybody needs to know what I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1882">TS</a>]

00:31:24   doing all the time then I I think of all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1884">TS</a>]

00:31:26   the edgy stuff going on in the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1886">TS</a>]

00:31:29   today i think that's pretty excusable to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1889">TS</a>]

00:31:31   say that they hate you know what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1891">TS</a>]

00:31:33   only way that something like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1893">TS</a>]

00:31:35   obfuscation through tor works is if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1895">TS</a>]

00:31:37   use it for everything if you only if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1897">TS</a>]

00:31:39   have if you have a house if you have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1899">TS</a>]

00:31:41   room in your house where you go only to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1901">TS</a>]

00:31:43   masturbate then that's going to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1903">TS</a>]

00:31:44   known as the masturbation room like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1904">TS</a>]

00:31:46   that's just gonna happen but if you if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1906">TS</a>]

00:31:49   you have multiple offers her laptop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1909">TS</a>]

00:31:51   it's called a studio with almost no it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1911">TS</a>]

00:31:56   not it's a private studio and I have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1916">TS</a>]

00:31:59   fresh blanket plums that's my studio [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1919">TS</a>]

00:32:01   look just nobody goes into my studio [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1921">TS</a>]

00:32:03   that's where i have all my figure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1923">TS</a>]

00:32:06   figurines action figurines arranged [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1926">TS</a>]

00:32:10   Michelle action figurines like it like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1930">TS</a>]

00:32:14   camels or lladros of devil [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1934">TS</a>]

00:32:16   ya sure ya anyway I don't know I i feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1936">TS</a>]

00:32:20   like i have i'm such an old man in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1940">TS</a>]

00:32:22   sense where I i can't help but believe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1942">TS</a>]

00:32:24   that anything that you expose yourself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1944">TS</a>]

00:32:26   to repeatedly on purpose will eventually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1946">TS</a>]

00:32:28   have some kind of an affect on you not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1948">TS</a>]

00:32:30   you know borough and video games do not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1950">TS</a>]

00:32:32   caused by I'm not even saying that I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1952">TS</a>]

00:32:35   saying that like you know you can just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1955">TS</a>]

00:32:36   look no further than anybody who's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1956">TS</a>]

00:32:38   and like you know look at the career [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1958">TS</a>]

00:32:40   longevity of people who do stuff like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1960">TS</a>]

00:32:42   you know child protective services or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1962">TS</a>]

00:32:45   homicide or or anything like that just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1965">TS</a>]

00:32:48   what you have to have you been doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1968">TS</a>]

00:32:51   homicide for 20-plus years now inhabit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1971">TS</a>]

00:32:54   your belt sir [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1974">TS</a>]

00:32:55   oh I speak coconuts got that they never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1975">TS</a>]

00:32:58   get tired now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1978">TS</a>]

00:33:00   now they are they're made of tougher [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1980">TS</a>]

00:33:02   stuff but you know and i think this even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1982">TS</a>]

00:33:06   as like and I i have obviously i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1986">TS</a>]

00:33:09   know exactly what you're talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1989">TS</a>]

00:33:10   but i can guess it's a lot of probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1990">TS</a>]

00:33:12   about human suffering and grossest and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1992">TS</a>]

00:33:15   mean I think we've all been interested [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1995">TS</a>]

00:33:16   in things whether even if it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1996">TS</a>]

00:33:17   something like research magazine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1997">TS</a>]

00:33:19   we're like are you know anymore those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/1999">TS</a>]

00:33:21   those trade paperbacks of research we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2001">TS</a>]

00:33:22   were like wow it's amazing this guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2002">TS</a>]

00:33:25   wants to hang from hooks that's got to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2005">TS</a>]

00:33:27   be one of the most out-there things I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2007">TS</a>]

00:33:28   ever seen but like if you expose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2008">TS</a>]

00:33:30   yourself to let you know what is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2010">TS</a>]

00:33:33   something like I just I just think i got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2013">TS</a>]

00:33:36   i try to be careful about what I expose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2016">TS</a>]

00:33:38   myself to too often because it will have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2018">TS</a>]

00:33:40   an impact even if that impact is now i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2020">TS</a>]

00:33:43   a nerd toward you know how base people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2023">TS</a>]

00:33:46   can be and I started imagining [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2026">TS</a>]

00:33:47   everybody's like that which they're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2027">TS</a>]

00:33:49   no no I mean that the horrible stuff is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2029">TS</a>]

00:33:53   all the stuff words that you know if the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2033">TS</a>]

00:33:55   research stuff was all very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2035">TS</a>]

00:33:57   mind-expanding at the time the the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2037">TS</a>]

00:34:00   idea that somebody would want to hang [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2040">TS</a>]

00:34:02   from their nipples [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2042">TS</a>]

00:34:07   it wasn't as Bob what's-his-name the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2047">TS</a>]

00:34:09   super masochist you remember him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2049">TS</a>]

00:34:11   sure well what's his name but he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2051">TS</a>]

00:34:13   everywhere he was like the patron saint [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2053">TS</a>]

00:34:14   of research right yeah that was that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2054">TS</a>]

00:34:17   that was those were fun times in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2057">TS</a>]

00:34:18   interesting times but what can I because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2058">TS</a>]

00:34:21   when sexual it was like I choose I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2061">TS</a>]

00:34:23   choose to put a hula hoop in my nipple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2063">TS</a>]

00:34:25   like the thing I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2065">TS</a>]

00:34:27   yeah the internet gives you access to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2067">TS</a>]

00:34:28   all those people whose whose pleasure is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2068">TS</a>]

00:34:31   to cause suffering to other people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2071">TS</a>]

00:34:34   aren't voluntary volunteering and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2074">TS</a>]

00:34:38   some that's the stuff we're just like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2078">TS</a>]

00:34:40   there's no limit to that like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2080">TS</a>]

00:34:43   depravity we all there's that there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2083">TS</a>]

00:34:46   this crazy thing in our in our culture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2086">TS</a>]

00:34:50   and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2090">TS</a>]

00:34:51   I suffer from it too which is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2091">TS</a>]

00:34:53   morbid fascination with serial killers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2093">TS</a>]

00:34:55   and you know and serial killers become a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2095">TS</a>]

00:35:00   kind of proxy for all of the worst of us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2100">TS</a>]

00:35:04   and that you know and it it's amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2104">TS</a>]

00:35:07   that hundreds of thousands of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2107">TS</a>]

00:35:10   have read detailed accounts of what Ted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2110">TS</a>]

00:35:14   Bundy did right I'm like I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2114">TS</a>]

00:35:18   millions of people maybe half and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2118">TS</a>]

00:35:23   even what Gary Ridgway did like read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2123">TS</a>]

00:35:27   those accounts and mold them over and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2127">TS</a>]

00:35:31   turn them over in their minds and said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2131">TS</a>]

00:35:35   like wow like awful but also like not so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2135">TS</a>]

00:35:43   awful that I didn't buy and read this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2143">TS</a>]

00:35:47   book about it or were like so awful in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2147">TS</a>]

00:35:50   fact that i bought and read this book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2150">TS</a>]

00:35:53   about it so it's a little bit i have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2153">TS</a>]

00:35:55   be honest is a little bit pornographic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2155">TS</a>]

00:35:56   cuz i've found myself drawn to that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2156">TS</a>]

00:35:58   too and it's why I sometimes ask myself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2158">TS</a>]

00:36:00   like like you know whether it's that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2160">TS</a>]

00:36:03   horrible picture of the little boy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2163">TS</a>]

00:36:04   drowned on the beach that we have all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2164">TS</a>]

00:36:06   recently seen or whether it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2166">TS</a>]

00:36:08   documentary about the Holocaust I i do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2168">TS</a>]

00:36:10   try to catch myself and go like is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2170">TS</a>]

00:36:12   how much of this is empathetic and how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2172">TS</a>]

00:36:14   much of this educational how much of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2174">TS</a>]

00:36:16   this is just purely sensationalistic and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2176">TS</a>]

00:36:19   verging on pornography [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2179">TS</a>]

00:36:20   well and that's that's what's so crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2180">TS</a>]

00:36:22   because I mean we've talked about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2182">TS</a>]

00:36:24   Nazis a lot and the Holocaust alot but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2184">TS</a>]

00:36:28   but you know the amount of time I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2188">TS</a>]

00:36:30   spent imagining what it was like it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2190">TS</a>]

00:36:36   that what it was like from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2196">TS</a>]

00:36:38   standpoint of almost everybody at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2198">TS</a>]

00:36:41   Auschwitz like the people who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2201">TS</a>]

00:36:44   running it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2204">TS</a>]

00:36:45   the people who were you going into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2205">TS</a>]

00:36:49   showers the people who were clearing out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2209">TS</a>]

00:36:51   the shower right and and all by way of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2211">TS</a>]

00:36:56   in some ways understanding what what we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2216">TS</a>]

00:37:01   are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2221">TS</a>]

00:37:03   and it ended in forms this worldview [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2223">TS</a>]

00:37:06   that I have that like likes civil and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2226">TS</a>]

00:37:10   not just civilization but but a good and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2230">TS</a>]

00:37:14   evil rights and and rules you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2234">TS</a>]

00:37:21   they're all systems that we are that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2241">TS</a>]

00:37:24   impose upon ourselves and more or less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2244">TS</a>]

00:37:26   are living according to voluntarily and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2246">TS</a>]

00:37:29   and they you know like don't don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2249">TS</a>]

00:37:32   believe that the dark side is kept at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2252">TS</a>]

00:37:34   bay by rules the dark side is framed by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2254">TS</a>]

00:37:38   rule [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2258">TS</a>]

00:37:39   yeah without rules he couldn't make the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2259">TS</a>]

00:37:41   darkside scalable but but you know but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2261">TS</a>]

00:37:43   what-what 4chan and what the tour and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2263">TS</a>]

00:37:46   what the what what the Deep Web showed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2266">TS</a>]

00:37:51   me was that like the man out of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2271">TS</a>]

00:37:55   bonala t of it but also that isn't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2275">TS</a>]

00:37:58   descriptive like Bundy was not unusual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2278">TS</a>]

00:38:06   even and you know and there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2286">TS</a>]

00:38:11   just--there's just suffering on on top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2291">TS</a>]

00:38:14   of suffering in this world suffering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2294">TS</a>]

00:38:17   that like suffering that we are imposing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2297">TS</a>]

00:38:20   on people suffering in the form of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2300">TS</a>]

00:38:23   think the just millions and millions of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2303">TS</a>]

00:38:26   people living in in conditions that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2306">TS</a>]

00:38:30   are not unimaginable they're very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2310">TS</a>]

00:38:33   imaginable their witnesses all and yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2313">TS</a>]

00:38:38   somehow we compartmentalize those things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2318">TS</a>]

00:38:40   such that we are able to be so mad about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2320">TS</a>]

00:38:45   Apple customer service or so mad about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2325">TS</a>]

00:38:51   the airline's you know and and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2331">TS</a>]

00:38:57   and can you can you can be sitting on an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2337">TS</a>]

00:38:59   airline so mad about your treatments and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2339">TS</a>]

00:39:05   open a book where the book is detailing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2345">TS</a>]

00:39:08   scenarios where bodies are piled upon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2348">TS</a>]

00:39:11   bodies and you're just like Oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2351">TS</a>]

00:39:16   my goodness grotesque you know that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2356">TS</a>]

00:39:19   60 years ago or or that's happening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2359">TS</a>]

00:39:25   right now but in Burma or that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2365">TS</a>]

00:39:27   happening right now but in basements all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2367">TS</a>]

00:39:30   across Russia or something but Mike but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2370">TS</a>]

00:39:33   I excuse me miss miss my I need more ice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2373">TS</a>]

00:39:37   in my in my free soda here and I'd end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2377">TS</a>]

00:39:44   it just it's something that I can't ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2384">TS</a>]

00:39:46   I can't ever get a purchase on reality i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2386">TS</a>]

00:39:53   guess there is no reality and there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2393">TS</a>]

00:39:57   only my reality my present reality and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2397">TS</a>]

00:40:01   you know and maybe that's why i'm up at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2401">TS</a>]

00:40:04   four thirty in the morning stacking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2404">TS</a>]

00:40:05   angels on the head of a pin yep could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2405">TS</a>]

00:40:08   part of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2408">TS</a>]

00:40:09   I don't know I you know I also wonder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2409">TS</a>]

00:40:11   sometimes how much of it is a form of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2411">TS</a>]

00:40:13   chasing the dragon which you described [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2413">TS</a>]

00:40:16   as that feeling of especially with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2416">TS</a>]

00:40:17   heroine of the first the first how you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2417">TS</a>]

00:40:19   get from that you'll never really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2419">TS</a>]

00:40:21   replicate without increasing the amount [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2421">TS</a>]

00:40:23   but still don't really be the same and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2423">TS</a>]

00:40:25   you suck you can't really you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2425">TS</a>]

00:40:26   really replicate that and I wonder if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2426">TS</a>]

00:40:28   there's just what part of it is that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2428">TS</a>]

00:40:31   become one become slightly addicted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2431">TS</a>]

00:40:33   something that makes you seem to feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2433">TS</a>]

00:40:35   more strongly than you've ever felt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2435">TS</a>]

00:40:36   before that you know and I'm not putting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2436">TS</a>]

00:40:39   this in really simple terms because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2439">TS</a>]

00:40:41   think there is something to be said for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2441">TS</a>]

00:40:42   educating yourself about all kinds of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2442">TS</a>]

00:40:43   stuff in the world that's not savory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2443">TS</a>]

00:40:45   just knowing about it doesn't mean you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2445">TS</a>]

00:40:46   agree with it but there is stuff that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2446">TS</a>]

00:40:47   everybody needs to know about even stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2447">TS</a>]

00:40:49   that's not particularly nice now do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2449">TS</a>]

00:40:52   need to spend five hours a night on that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2452">TS</a>]

00:40:53   I don't know and it depends on what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2453">TS</a>]

00:40:56   we're talking about i guess but i also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2456">TS</a>]

00:40:58   think part of it just might be that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2458">TS</a>]

00:41:00   don't know that this might sound [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2460">TS</a>]

00:41:01   old-fashioned but I think that the more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2461">TS</a>]

00:41:03   what you're generally calling rough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2463">TS</a>]

00:41:05   trade them the more kind of shocking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2465">TS</a>]

00:41:07   stuff that you expose yourself to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2467">TS</a>]

00:41:09   more you want to see and that doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2469">TS</a>]

00:41:11   just have to be Bob Flanagan super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2471">TS</a>]

00:41:13   masochist that could also be like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2473">TS</a>]

00:41:15   how much crazier is Kanye West gonna get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2475">TS</a>]

00:41:18   this guy's and not and i have an opinion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2478">TS</a>]

00:41:20   about it and it seems i think all that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2480">TS</a>]

00:41:23   serves a kind of addiction kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2483">TS</a>]

00:41:26   addictive personality people have it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2486">TS</a>]

00:41:28   just it may find more or less objection [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2488">TS</a>]

00:41:30   mol outcomes but i think there's there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2490">TS</a>]

00:41:33   something to a lot of people we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2493">TS</a>]

00:41:35   always looking for that next thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2495">TS</a>]

00:41:36   that's not gonna make them feel this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2496">TS</a>]

00:41:38   charge get this dopamine hit and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2498">TS</a>]

00:41:41   becomes very difficult to pull yourself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2501">TS</a>]

00:41:43   away from that and you find yourself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2503">TS</a>]

00:41:44   seeking something that makes makes you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2504">TS</a>]

00:41:46   feel stronger and stronger until it can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2506">TS</a>]

00:41:48   become consuming me is that is that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2508">TS</a>]

00:41:51   that does that sound like a crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2511">TS</a>]

00:41:52   anti-pornography kind of stance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2512">TS</a>]

00:41:54   I don't mean it that way but many sounds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2514">TS</a>]

00:41:56   like sounds like what people would say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2516">TS</a>]

00:41:58   about pornography i think it's i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2518">TS</a>]

00:42:00   it's important for all of us to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2520">TS</a>]

00:42:02   recognize when we are in an unhealthy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2522">TS</a>]

00:42:05   relationship with Amy stay any kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2525">TS</a>]

00:42:08   external source of stimulation yeah any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2528">TS</a>]

00:42:12   stimulus right if you are essentially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2532">TS</a>]

00:42:14   anything outside of us we're like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2534">TS</a>]

00:42:15   like the reason you don't take fucking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2535">TS</a>]

00:42:17   cold pills because you don't want that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2537">TS</a>]

00:42:18   right i mean any time where the whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2538">TS</a>]

00:42:21   dragon were chasing there's something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2541">TS</a>]

00:42:23   out there that we know is potentially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2543">TS</a>]

00:42:26   capable of giving us a certain kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2546">TS</a>]

00:42:29   surprisingly strong stimulation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2549">TS</a>]

00:42:31   yeah it's me and it ends up being any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2551">TS</a>]

00:42:33   time you've been in the hospital where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2553">TS</a>]

00:42:35   you had a morphine drip and you and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2555">TS</a>]

00:42:38   see that you know you've got a button [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2558">TS</a>]

00:42:40   you can push the button and give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2560">TS</a>]

00:42:42   yourself morphine when you're in pain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2562">TS</a>]

00:42:43   but the nurses have some governor on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2563">TS</a>]

00:42:47   is not just unlimited but there's a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2567">TS</a>]

00:42:54   difference between the people that sit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2574">TS</a>]

00:42:56   and wait until they have kind of one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2576">TS</a>]

00:42:59   what they can feel the pain is becoming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2579">TS</a>]

00:43:01   unendurable and then they push the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2581">TS</a>]

00:43:03   button versus the people that are just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2583">TS</a>]

00:43:04   like waiting for the button to reup you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2584">TS</a>]

00:43:07   know they're pushing it all the time and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2587">TS</a>]

00:43:09   that way for the rehab you know and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2589">TS</a>]

00:43:12   is in our culture the whole game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2592">TS</a>]

00:43:19   I mean everybody out there is waiting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2599">TS</a>]

00:43:22   for us to you know everybody out there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2602">TS</a>]

00:43:25   is trying to provide us another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2605">TS</a>]

00:43:26   opportunity to reup re-up with Star Wars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2606">TS</a>]

00:43:30   reup with you the next episode of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2610">TS</a>]

00:43:34   Americans reup with a cool new you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2614">TS</a>]

00:43:38   the cool new shoes that you deserve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2618">TS</a>]

00:43:41   because you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2621">TS</a>]

00:43:42   because you work hard the you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2622">TS</a>]

00:43:46   reup that the buying and the and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2626">TS</a>]

00:43:50   pleasing yourself and the pleasuring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2630">TS</a>]

00:43:52   yourself and and to resist it when it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2632">TS</a>]

00:43:56   comes from all corners because your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2636">TS</a>]

00:44:00   Minister on sunday is also like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2640">TS</a>]

00:44:03   providing a version of it and your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2643">TS</a>]

00:44:08   parents are providing you versions of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2648">TS</a>]

00:44:11   and at its the we have turned it into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2651">TS</a>]

00:44:15   with fetishized consumption in all walks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2655">TS</a>]

00:44:21   of life so that just you know to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2661">TS</a>]

00:44:23   I've had enough pie I've had a you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2663">TS</a>]

00:44:26   No thank you I don't need seconds is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2666">TS</a>]

00:44:32   just like to potentially offend the host [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2672">TS</a>]

00:44:35   but to be a radical like a us like to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2675">TS</a>]

00:44:42   seditious almost to say no thank you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2682">TS</a>]

00:44:45   know I do not want to die i cannot i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2685">TS</a>]

00:44:50   cannot join in the excitement about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2690">TS</a>]

00:44:53   new Star Wars not because I'm not kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2693">TS</a>]

00:44:58   of excited about the new Star Wars but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2698">TS</a>]

00:45:00   because there are too many opportunities [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2700">TS</a>]

00:45:02   for it to their you know too many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2702">TS</a>]

00:45:06   opportunities for that kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2706">TS</a>]

00:45:07   stimulation to to own me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2707">TS</a>]

00:45:11   yeah yeah and because you're infj right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2711">TS</a>]

00:45:14   yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2714">TS</a>]

00:45:16   again with the pie um again with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2716">TS</a>]

00:45:19   pyrite don't know but like that was it i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2719">TS</a>]

00:45:21   was using pi in a different way and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2721">TS</a>]

00:45:23   y'know I heard the word heart behind and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2723">TS</a>]

00:45:26   I was like oh sure pie but wait it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2726">TS</a>]

00:45:28   different time a different thing I i get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2728">TS</a>]

00:45:32   that with video games that's me and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2732">TS</a>]

00:45:33   video games were like I i have come to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2733">TS</a>]

00:45:36   realize the video games can be very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2736">TS</a>]

00:45:37   special and awesome but I i don't i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2737">TS</a>]

00:45:40   don't mean this in disparaging way but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2740">TS</a>]

00:45:42   don't want that in my life because for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2742">TS</a>]

00:45:43   me to get to the level where i could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2743">TS</a>]

00:45:45   really enjoy the way my friends enjoy it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2745">TS</a>]

00:45:46   would take so many hours and days and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2746">TS</a>]

00:45:49   weeks which i might really enjoy but all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2749">TS</a>]

00:45:51   I can think about is what I won't be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2751">TS</a>]

00:45:53   doing when I be doing that and it's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2753">TS</a>]

00:45:55   attractive says his hand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2755">TS</a>]

00:45:56   in law and attractive nuisance like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2756">TS</a>]

00:45:57   have that in the house i'm going to feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2757">TS</a>]

00:45:59   bad about the fact that I spade $500 for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2759">TS</a>]

00:46:02   this game box and don't use it or I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2762">TS</a>]

00:46:03   gonna feel terrible about the amount of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2763">TS</a>]

00:46:05   time i spend my five-hundred-dollar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2765">TS</a>]

00:46:06   gamebox neither of those four where I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2766">TS</a>]

00:46:08   mentally right now are emotionally right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2768">TS</a>]

00:46:10   now is going to make me feel good about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2770">TS</a>]

00:46:11   that right but mhm but there's the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2771">TS</a>]

00:46:15   like the danger i think in seeing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2775">TS</a>]

00:46:19   because I'm not somebody that sees [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2779">TS</a>]

00:46:21   tyranny it as a as a conspiratorial you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2781">TS</a>]

00:46:27   know like a like I'm not worried about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2787">TS</a>]

00:46:28   outside forces with a gun to my head [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2788">TS</a>]

00:46:34   forcing me to kneel and eat the gruel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2794">TS</a>]

00:46:37   I don't worry about being colonized know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2797">TS</a>]

00:46:40   as much as I'm worried about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2800">TS</a>]

00:46:43   process of of voluntary submission who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2803">TS</a>]

00:46:47   and all of the all the small government [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2807">TS</a>]

00:46:51   libertarians up in montana who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2811">TS</a>]

00:46:54   worried about obama's jackbooted thugs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2814">TS</a>]

00:46:57   are strange to me because they are all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2817">TS</a>]

00:47:01   like greedily gulping at the teat of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2821">TS</a>]

00:47:06   whoever the proof of the service [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2826">TS</a>]

00:47:08   providers of their own mythology and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2828">TS</a>]

00:47:11   products and they are buying into and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2831">TS</a>]

00:47:15   and buying with money all of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2835">TS</a>]

00:47:18   accoutrements of their cult thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2838">TS</a>]

00:47:23   with note with no self-awareness right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2843">TS</a>]

00:47:26   there and and that stuff is the real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2846">TS</a>]

00:47:29   that that's where your mind is really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2849">TS</a>]

00:47:32   colonized where you know they are they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2852">TS</a>]

00:47:35   are the rats tapping on the red button [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2855">TS</a>]

00:47:37   that's that that's satisfying their urge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2857">TS</a>]

00:47:41   to feel persecuted but so I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2861">TS</a>]

00:47:47   worried about about the about the ATF [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2867">TS</a>]

00:47:49   coming through the door [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2869">TS</a>]

00:47:51   I'm worried about the heed to what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2871">TS</a>]

00:47:56   degree I am self-medicating by my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2876">TS</a>]

00:48:02   consumption of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2882">TS</a>]

00:48:04   and.and I'm not serial killer porn isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2884">TS</a>]

00:48:08   what I'm worried about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2888">TS</a>]

00:48:10   and I Anna eventually i'm not sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2890">TS</a>]

00:48:12   ultimately I'm not sure what I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2892">TS</a>]

00:48:14   worried about because I guard myself so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2894">TS</a>]

00:48:17   carefully against ever becoming a like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2897">TS</a>]

00:48:27   consumer but and so but but but that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2907">TS</a>]

00:48:33   becomes a a strange kind of addiction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2913">TS</a>]

00:48:38   the the addiction of like denial and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2918">TS</a>]

00:48:41   discomfort and like no I will not I will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2921">TS</a>]

00:48:45   not watch this again even though I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2925">TS</a>]

00:48:48   to because i don't want to become a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2928">TS</a>]

00:48:50   prisoner to it and and so what ends up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2930">TS</a>]

00:48:56   happening is I remember I used to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2936">TS</a>]

00:48:58   into arguments at the University of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2938">TS</a>]

00:48:59   Washington all the time where I was or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2939">TS</a>]

00:49:01   what I got back from long long stays in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2941">TS</a>]

00:49:04   Germany and tried to convince people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2944">TS</a>]

00:49:06   that there is nothing in contemporary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2946">TS</a>]

00:49:08   Germany that would that would indicate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2948">TS</a>]

00:49:12   the Holocaust there's nothing in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2952">TS</a>]

00:49:15   contemporary Germany that would give you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2955">TS</a>]

00:49:17   special insight into what happened there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2957">TS</a>]

00:49:24   70 years ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2964">TS</a>]

00:49:25   you cannot detect it you can't detect it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2965">TS</a>]

00:49:29   in Germans you cannot detect it in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2969">TS</a>]

00:49:31   ground is we're talking about like how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2971">TS</a>]

00:49:33   swastikas have been chipped off the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2973">TS</a>]

00:49:35   bridges and stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2975">TS</a>]

00:49:36   yeah but the largest have been chipped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2976">TS</a>]

00:49:38   off of the bridges of their minds to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2978">TS</a>]

00:49:40   like whatever it was whatever it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2980">TS</a>]

00:49:44   that was in the the Germans is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2984">TS</a>]

00:49:48   visible in in being friends with Germans [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2988">TS</a>]

00:49:53   in interacting with Germans it's not you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2993">TS</a>]

00:49:55   don't you don't go to Germany and say oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2995">TS</a>]

00:49:57   boy i see it's just they're just they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/2997">TS</a>]

00:50:00   just playing nice right now but if the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3000">TS</a>]

00:50:03   opportunity arises they're all going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3003">TS</a>]

00:50:05   become monsters again like that is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3005">TS</a>]

00:50:07   the case they are as committed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3007">TS</a>]

00:50:10   liberal democracy there as anyone in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3010">TS</a>]

00:50:13   world and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3013">TS</a>]

00:50:15   are just as humane as the most like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3015">TS</a>]

00:50:22   they're just as committed and just as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3022">TS</a>]

00:50:26   there's nothing in their character that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3026">TS</a>]

00:50:32   suggests it and so what that says to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3032">TS</a>]

00:50:36   is that it is in all of our character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3036">TS</a>]

00:50:39   all the time they are not just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3039">TS</a>]

00:50:42   pretending to be liberal democrats there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3042">TS</a>]

00:50:44   they are deeply Liberal Democrats and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3044">TS</a>]

00:50:51   that's not the evidence you know and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3051">TS</a>]

00:50:55   fact that it didn't happen in Sweden [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3055">TS</a>]

00:50:58   doesn't make the Swedes superior to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3058">TS</a>]

00:51:01   Germans morally or or otherwise and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3061">TS</a>]

00:51:05   it's that that impulse to slaughter and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3065">TS</a>]

00:51:12   that impulse to be rid of impurity and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3072">TS</a>]

00:51:16   the impulse to systematize not just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3076">TS</a>]

00:51:21   murder but to systematize in humanity is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3081">TS</a>]

00:51:27   in us all not even really dormant but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3087">TS</a>]

00:51:31   just being exercised in different ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3091">TS</a>]

00:51:33   you know it's being it's being satisfied [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3093">TS</a>]

00:51:35   in different ways and so it's all of our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3095">TS</a>]

00:51:39   responsibility to recognize it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3099">TS</a>]

00:51:41   ourselves in those small ways and say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3101">TS</a>]

00:51:43   listen I am the Holocaust is in me I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3103">TS</a>]

00:51:46   could commit this i am not one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3106">TS</a>]

00:51:50   ones who would have stood stood up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3110">TS</a>]

00:51:54   said no I am absolutely one of the ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3114">TS</a>]

00:51:58   who would have drawn the blinds and said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3118">TS</a>]

00:52:01   oh I'm not sure what the smell is that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3121">TS</a>]

00:52:04   coming from the forest right you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3124">TS</a>]

00:52:07   and and that acknowledgement and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3127">TS</a>]

00:52:12   recognition that then it you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3132">TS</a>]

00:52:14   always starts you know that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3134">TS</a>]

00:52:17   arguments that we have about like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3137">TS</a>]

00:52:19   violent movies don't cause violence and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3139">TS</a>]

00:52:21   the violent video games don't Colonel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3141">TS</a>]

00:52:22   cause violence and it's such a it's such [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3142">TS</a>]

00:52:25   a thing on the internet that if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3145">TS</a>]

00:52:27   on the wrong side of it you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3147">TS</a>]

00:52:28   like you're some PMRC anti-pornography [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3148">TS</a>]

00:52:34   guess it's kind of a scold scold like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3154">TS</a>]

00:52:36   you're saying and and and in fact like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3156">TS</a>]

00:52:39   those things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3159">TS</a>]

00:52:41   no they do not cause violence they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3161">TS</a>]

00:52:43   outlets for this concordance tremendous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3163">TS</a>]

00:52:47   violence that since all and that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3167">TS</a>]

00:52:50   thing we should always be looking at and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3170">TS</a>]

00:52:52   thinking about and where because so mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3172">TS</a>]

00:52:57   so many people in my experience refused [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3177">TS</a>]

00:53:01   to acknowledge the violence that's in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3181">TS</a>]

00:53:03   them at all and and so when violence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3183">TS</a>]

00:53:09   arrives on the scene even in the form of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3189">TS</a>]

00:53:12   like confrontation about something and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3192">TS</a>]

00:53:15   in a starbucks line there's all this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3195">TS</a>]

00:53:18   like all everyone so appalled because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3198">TS</a>]

00:53:23   we're all so basically civilized because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3203">TS</a>]

00:53:25   we're civilized now and yet any amount [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3205">TS</a>]

00:53:28   of violence any raised voices or angry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3208">TS</a>]

00:53:30   looks are this like terrible assault and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3210">TS</a>]

00:53:34   and we're um and we should be above it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3214">TS</a>]

00:53:38   but in fact like we each of us and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3218">TS</a>]

00:53:43   of us are complicit in murder every day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3223">TS</a>]

00:53:46   that's that's why didn't interrupt you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3226">TS</a>]

00:53:48   but this is what keeps everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3228">TS</a>]

00:53:49   everything you're saying it's me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3229">TS</a>]

00:53:50   thinking about something that feels like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3230">TS</a>]

00:53:52   an elephant in the room you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3232">TS</a>]

00:53:53   describing a germany where like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3233">TS</a>]

00:53:55   think about most Americans and most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3235">TS</a>]

00:53:57   American lot of Americans definitely i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3237">TS</a>]

00:53:58   was growing up with memories of World [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3238">TS</a>]

00:54:00   War two the depending on how you measure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3240">TS</a>]

00:54:03   it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3243">TS</a>]

00:54:04   what would that be the you know sixteen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3244">TS</a>]

00:54:08   to twenty some years that the Nazis had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3248">TS</a>]

00:54:13   some kind of power and and work we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3253">TS</a>]

00:54:16   just they were not just dictating that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3256">TS</a>]

00:54:17   they had actually you know they had the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3257">TS</a>]

00:54:20   support of Industry and people but but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3260">TS</a>]

00:54:22   that was what was that was maybe maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3262">TS</a>]

00:54:24   20 years and we still we still think of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3264">TS</a>]

00:54:27   yet really 15 16 years and now we still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3267">TS</a>]

00:54:30   think of like Oh Germany they were the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3270">TS</a>]

00:54:31   Nazis but what you're describing is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3271">TS</a>]

00:54:33   country where it is not simply a matter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3273">TS</a>]

00:54:35   of having trying trying to obliterate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3275">TS</a>]

00:54:37   the past but trying to like actively [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3277">TS</a>]

00:54:38   evolved to be different people while at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3278">TS</a>]

00:54:41   the same time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3281">TS</a>]

00:54:42   you know I'll be that guy we give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3282">TS</a>]

00:54:44   ourselves a pass for 400 years of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3284">TS</a>]

00:54:46   slavery and probably two or three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3286">TS</a>]

00:54:49   hundred years of slaughtering natives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3289">TS</a>]

00:54:51   and all kinds of other stuff we're like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3291">TS</a>]

00:54:54   we give ourselves a pass for that and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3294">TS</a>]

00:54:55   look old shoes we look at all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3295">TS</a>]

00:54:57   places where people are treated really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3297">TS</a>]

00:54:58   badly but we don't ever but it isn't as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3298">TS</a>]

00:55:01   that we stopped the paws with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3301">TS</a>]

00:55:02   monster is still in us we know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3302">TS</a>]

00:55:04   monster still in Germany because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3304">TS</a>]

00:55:05   were the bad guys in World War two but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3305">TS</a>]

00:55:07   while it may have happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3307">TS</a>]

00:55:10   the the worst parts of that kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3310">TS</a>]

00:55:11   racism and colonialism may have happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3311">TS</a>]

00:55:13   over a hundred fifty years ago in our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3313">TS</a>]

00:55:15   case we were pretty good at it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3315">TS</a>]

00:55:18   institutionalized it way beyond what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3318">TS</a>]

00:55:20   church did we were able to make entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3320">TS</a>]

00:55:22   industries out of having slaves but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3322">TS</a>]

00:55:25   was a business we talked about it there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3325">TS</a>]

00:55:27   was no there was no attempt to erase the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3327">TS</a>]

00:55:30   record of that or burn the books that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3330">TS</a>]

00:55:32   showed who'd been sold to whom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3332">TS</a>]

00:55:33   whose child had been sent to another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3333">TS</a>]

00:55:35   state with no attempt to cover that up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3335">TS</a>]

00:55:37   because it was evolving so slowly and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3337">TS</a>]

00:55:39   now today we look at that old that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3339">TS</a>]

00:55:40   ancient history but I guess what I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3340">TS</a>]

00:55:42   trying to ask partly his first following [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3342">TS</a>]

00:55:44   us two parts i mean isn't fair to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3344">TS</a>]

00:55:45   we've also got that monster and then in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3345">TS</a>]

00:55:47   second of all do you think we have made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3347">TS</a>]

00:55:50   the same effort as a modern German would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3350">TS</a>]

00:55:52   try and actually evolved past either hit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3352">TS</a>]

00:55:55   your historical monster because it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3355">TS</a>]

00:55:58   like we aren't I the I think that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3358">TS</a>]

00:56:01   think the scale of time it's so it's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3361">TS</a>]

00:56:06   funny that human life is what ninety [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3366">TS</a>]

00:56:11   years and in the course of 90 years like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3371">TS</a>]

00:56:16   it's the it's the totality of reality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3376">TS</a>]

00:56:21   right wheel we don't really know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3381">TS</a>]

00:56:25   anything that happened before us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3385">TS</a>]

00:56:26   actually happened right there are some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3386">TS</a>]

00:56:28   buildings standing around that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3388">TS</a>]

00:56:30   you presume were built before you were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3390">TS</a>]

00:56:32   born but it all seems a little unreal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3392">TS</a>]

00:56:34   that anything happened before you never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3394">TS</a>]

00:56:37   been I've never been in Nicaragua but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3397">TS</a>]

00:56:39   assume it's real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3399">TS</a>]

00:56:40   however I've read a lot about it I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3400">TS</a>]

00:56:41   never been there either but i assume [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3401">TS</a>]

00:56:43   it's real I've seen pictures and books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3403">TS</a>]

00:56:44   but you know 90 years is that that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3404">TS</a>]

00:56:48   whole of our real first hand experience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3408">TS</a>]

00:56:52   and so it seemed everything seemed so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3412">TS</a>]

00:56:54   important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3414">TS</a>]

00:56:55   was and we are so um we're so concerned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3415">TS</a>]

00:57:00   with with a year and five years and 15 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3420">TS</a>]

00:57:08   years but really that you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3428">TS</a>]

00:57:10   almost almost nothing that happens in 15 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3430">TS</a>]

00:57:18   years really you know that really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3438">TS</a>]

00:57:21   matters or or yet it it's sort of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3441">TS</a>]

00:57:25   great man theory of history right that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3445">TS</a>]

00:57:27   that one person can have this tremendous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3447">TS</a>]

00:57:29   effect but as the more you zoom out the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3449">TS</a>]

00:57:31   more you realize it's just waves of of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3451">TS</a>]

00:57:37   events and there it and it's kind of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3457">TS</a>]

00:57:41   myth that that that even Hitler really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3461">TS</a>]

00:57:47   had that much of an effect but if you if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3467">TS</a>]

00:57:50   you zoom out and look at it on it on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3470">TS</a>]

00:57:51   certainly on a thousand years timeline [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3471">TS</a>]

00:57:54   but up you know on a 10,000 year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3474">TS</a>]

00:57:56   timeline like he just disappears and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3476">TS</a>]

00:58:02   I think about this a lot of it and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3482">TS</a>]

00:58:05   gets me in in trouble because like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3485">TS</a>]

00:58:10   read the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3490">TS</a>]

00:58:11   not very long ago where that the current [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3491">TS</a>]

00:58:13   thinking is that the trauma of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3493">TS</a>]

00:58:17   Holocaust actually is encoded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3497">TS</a>]

00:58:19   genetically all right in in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3499">TS</a>]

00:58:21   survivors in the next generation he said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3501">TS</a>]

00:58:23   if that's true it basically it changes a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3503">TS</a>]

00:58:25   lot of what we know about history [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3505">TS</a>]

00:58:26   it changes it absolutely change history [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3506">TS</a>]

00:58:29   but at a certain point like it it in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3509">TS</a>]

00:58:32   immediate scale it changes it because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3512">TS</a>]

00:58:34   means like oh right the african-american [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3514">TS</a>]

00:58:36   population of the united states has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3516">TS</a>]

00:58:39   genetic memory of 400 years of slavery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3519">TS</a>]

00:58:45   like the Holocaust happened not in 15 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3525">TS</a>]

00:58:48   years the Holocaust largely happened in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3528">TS</a>]

00:58:50   two years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3530">TS</a>]

00:58:52   right right and if that was like they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3532">TS</a>]

00:58:54   had they had that 18 really strong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3534">TS</a>]

00:58:56   months but it did it was not we you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3536">TS</a>]

00:58:58   cannot just overlay that with the war i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3538">TS</a>]

00:59:00   mean it it was really on i'm certainly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3540">TS</a>]

00:59:03   how absolutely trying to minimize it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3543">TS</a>]

00:59:04   it's the the really when the Holocaust [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3544">TS</a>]

00:59:07   or the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3547">TS</a>]

00:59:08   final solution i should say really got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3548">TS</a>]

00:59:10   going I mean it wasn't more than three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3550">TS</a>]

00:59:12   years really right it's not in 42 if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3552">TS</a>]

00:59:17   that left a genetic imprint on this on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3557">TS</a>]

00:59:21   surviving generations then slavery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3561">TS</a>]

00:59:24   I mean was reinforced and reinforced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3564">TS</a>]

00:59:29   through generation and generation and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3569">TS</a>]

00:59:30   generation and if that's true then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3570">TS</a>]

00:59:34   know then there is something that then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3574">TS</a>]

00:59:36   there's a genetic record that has been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3576">TS</a>]

00:59:39   that you know that then starts to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3579">TS</a>]

00:59:43   part of natural selection right people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3583">TS</a>]

00:59:45   are passing that down and passing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3585">TS</a>]

00:59:47   reinforcement of it down in generations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3587">TS</a>]

00:59:50   but if that is true you don't have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3590">TS</a>]

00:59:52   zoom out very far to say well that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3592">TS</a>]

00:59:55   true of every single person on earth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3595">TS</a>]

00:59:57   like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3597">TS</a>]

00:59:57   like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3597">TS</a>]

01:00:00   the the just in the historical record [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3600">TS</a>]

01:00:04   you can go back and find like well the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3604">TS</a>]

01:00:08   Scots were brutalized by the English be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3608">TS</a>]

01:00:14   you know the the thai people are only in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3614">TS</a>]

01:00:19   Thailand because they were chased out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3619">TS</a>]

01:00:21   China 2,000 years ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3621">TS</a>]

01:00:25   china's got chinese got some pretty bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3625">TS</a>]

01:00:27   treatment from the Japanese right the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3627">TS</a>]

01:00:28   right and so and so and the you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3628">TS</a>]

01:00:31   the Mongol hordes that swept through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3631">TS</a>]

01:00:34   Eastern Europe over and over and over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3634">TS</a>]

01:00:37   again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3637">TS</a>]

01:00:39   um you know just wiping out cultures [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3639">TS</a>]

01:00:46   after cultures and so then you look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3646">TS</a>]

01:00:49   every single human group and you find in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3649">TS</a>]

01:00:54   their history like incredible trauma at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3654">TS</a>]

01:00:59   incredible trauma inflicted on them as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3659">TS</a>]

01:01:01   group not just individual people and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3661">TS</a>]

01:01:04   then when when you factor in that every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3664">TS</a>]

01:01:07   single family has like up probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3667">TS</a>]

01:01:12   unmeasurable trauma in their past [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3672">TS</a>]

01:01:15   yeah i mean just I mean just think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3675">TS</a>]

01:01:16   even you know so so we we try to measure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3676">TS</a>]

01:01:20   these kinds of tragedies by the number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3680">TS</a>]

01:01:23   of people who died and not you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3683">TS</a>]

01:01:26   even really how do you begin to take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3686">TS</a>]

01:01:27   into account the secondary effects of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3687">TS</a>]

01:01:29   like all the people you knew who were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3689">TS</a>]

01:01:31   affected by it or people who let's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3691">TS</a>]

01:01:33   be honest the people who were killed as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3693">TS</a>]

01:01:35   part of that but then let's say you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3695">TS</a>]

01:01:37   just having just the PTSD of having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3697">TS</a>]

01:01:40   lived through that at all even if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3700">TS</a>]

01:01:43   came out of it with most of your stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3703">TS</a>]

01:01:44   in your family alive he's still even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3704">TS</a>]

01:01:46   imagine the PTSD of getting through that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3706">TS</a>]

01:01:48   experience quote-unquote unscathed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3708">TS</a>]

01:01:51   you're not unscathed like you'll be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3711">TS</a>]

01:01:52   scarred forever by that experience for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3712">TS</a>]

01:01:54   sure and and and I mean imagine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3714">TS</a>]

01:01:57   surviving a famine where where you watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3717">TS</a>]

01:02:01   your children died and you watch your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3721">TS</a>]

01:02:03   your parents died and you watched your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3723">TS</a>]

01:02:06   you watch your loved ones died and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3726">TS</a>]

01:02:08   survived somehow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3728">TS</a>]

01:02:10   at if if trauma is encoded in our genes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3730">TS</a>]

01:02:14   we like our forefathers all of us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3734">TS</a>]

01:02:19   survived like exponential compounded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3739">TS</a>]

01:02:27   trauma [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3747">TS</a>]

01:02:28   it's the story of humanity so this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3748">TS</a>]

01:02:30   the same people who passed in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3750">TS</a>]

01:02:31   Holocaust also where their their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3751">TS</a>]

01:02:33   grandparents for the victims of programs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3753">TS</a>]

01:02:35   right and and and back and all the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3755">TS</a>]

01:02:38   you know and everyone so trauma so at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3758">TS</a>]

01:02:42   that point it isn't news because we are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3762">TS</a>]

01:02:47   all baked out of trauma and and so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3767">TS</a>]

01:02:56   is the human story we we are all we all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3776">TS</a>]

01:02:59   of us have it from there the number of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3779">TS</a>]

01:03:03   people who can go back 500 years and say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3783">TS</a>]

01:03:06   no as a matter of fact for the last 500 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3786">TS</a>]

01:03:08   years i come from i come from royal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3788">TS</a>]

01:03:14   stock and we have all and we we've done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3794">TS</a>]

01:03:18   nothing but eat the fat of the of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3798">TS</a>]

01:03:21   lamb for for 500 years and it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3801">TS</a>]

01:03:24   really you didn't have there was nobody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3804">TS</a>]

01:03:26   in that family that got early-onset [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3806">TS</a>]

01:03:29   Alzheimer's disease and and turned to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3809">TS</a>]

01:03:35   generation into like like traumatized [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3815">TS</a>]

01:03:39   generation I'm and and even so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3819">TS</a>]

01:03:42   presumes that 500 years of good times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3822">TS</a>]

01:03:44   erases the 50,000 years of trauma that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3824">TS</a>]

01:03:48   seated and I pretty pretty good run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3828">TS</a>]

01:03:50   there for a while but then that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3830">TS</a>]

01:03:51   genetically good times kind of get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3831">TS</a>]

01:03:55   encoded in there too and I mean I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3835">TS</a>]

01:03:56   presume that they be my stride of trauma [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3836">TS</a>]

01:03:58   drama shows up in the genetic record [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3838">TS</a>]

01:04:01   then then good times and lands aplenty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3841">TS</a>]

01:04:04   must to and so it does it changes our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3844">TS</a>]

01:04:08   understanding of history changes our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3848">TS</a>]

01:04:10   understanding of ourselves but there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3850">TS</a>]

01:04:13   no group of people that can say that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3853">TS</a>]

01:04:17   they have a that that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3857">TS</a>]

01:04:20   have some kind of lock on on trauma we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3860">TS</a>]

01:04:26   just we can see that there are groups in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3866">TS</a>]

01:04:27   recent history in recent memory who say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3867">TS</a>]

01:04:30   like yes I personally experienced trauma [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3870">TS</a>]

01:04:33   or my grandmother did but um but it all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3873">TS</a>]

01:04:41   you know it's all part of the the ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3881">TS</a>]

01:04:45   and zeros that make up our whole selves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3885">TS</a>]

01:04:49   and so right now we're engaged in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3889">TS</a>]

01:04:53   civilizing project that's been happening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3893">TS</a>]

01:04:57   since the end of world war two where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3897">TS</a>]

01:05:00   we've changed the definition of what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3900">TS</a>]

01:05:02   civilized is and we've we've all agreed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3902">TS</a>]

01:05:08   more or less you know on this kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3908">TS</a>]

01:05:12   like what we'd like it to look like but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3912">TS</a>]

01:05:15   within America obviously we have we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3915">TS</a>]

01:05:18   two major different versions of what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3918">TS</a>]

01:05:21   that looks like and now we're engaged in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3921">TS</a>]

01:05:26   this like rooting out of of heresy and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3926">TS</a>]

01:05:31   this this presumption that we can clean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3931">TS</a>]

01:05:35   ourselves of our impulses to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3935">TS</a>]

01:05:40   predatory clean ourselves of our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3940">TS</a>]

01:05:43   impulses to to hurt one another and to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3943">TS</a>]

01:05:46   to be greedy and be xenophobic and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3946">TS</a>]

01:05:52   to live in fear and to act in fear and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3952">TS</a>]

01:05:55   we can we can clean that behavior out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3955">TS</a>]

01:05:58   us and and walk into this future we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3958">TS</a>]

01:06:01   imagine where were kind where our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3961">TS</a>]

01:06:04   natures are kind and where unkindness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3964">TS</a>]

01:06:10   isn't it you know we go through we go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3970">TS</a>]

01:06:12   through this difficult birthing period [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3972">TS</a>]

01:06:14   where unkindness isn't tolerated in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3974">TS</a>]

01:06:17   order to achieve a world where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3977">TS</a>]

01:06:18   unkindness doesn't occur to us and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3978">TS</a>]

01:06:24   that's a you know that is a major [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3984">TS</a>]

01:06:28   thought experiment first and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3988">TS</a>]

01:06:33   and I don't have I don't i'm not sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3993">TS</a>]

01:06:37   that it works that way so that's that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/3997">TS</a>]

01:06:43   that's the difficulty I get into looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/4003">TS</a>]

01:06:45   at history and and then going on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/4005">TS</a>]

01:06:49   porch and and trying to understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/4009">TS</a>]

01:06:52   people is just that you know what is our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/4012">TS</a>]

01:06:56   project is it to be is it tip is it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/4016">TS</a>]

01:07:00   cleanse ourselves and become good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/4020">TS</a>]

01:07:03   sadly that was the impulse the Nazis had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/4023">TS</a>]

01:07:07   to and that was the IMP and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/4027">TS</a>]

01:07:10   always been the impulse of all the awful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/4030">TS</a>]

01:07:12   things that we've done in in the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/4032">TS</a>]

01:07:14   400 years never thought of it that way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/4034">TS</a>]

01:07:16   is like we want to clean ourselves and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/4036">TS</a>]

01:07:20   get to that you know and get to a place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/4040">TS</a>]

01:07:23   where that where the dirtiness doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/4043">TS</a>]

01:07:25   reappear and we're doing it again now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/4045">TS</a>]

01:07:29   and you know and I'm not comparing it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/4049">TS</a>]

01:07:35   the to the Holocaust but what what's are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/4055">TS</a>]

01:07:40   you know what what do we see what gives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/4060">TS</a>]

01:07:43   us what is the evidence that we can be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/4063">TS</a>]

01:07:46   cleansed that way and and it without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/4066">TS</a>]

01:07:54   that evidence like what's another way of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/4074">TS</a>]

01:07:58   looking at it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/4078">TS</a>]

01:07:58   what's an alternative goal where we stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/4078">TS</a>]

01:08:02   imagining that we can rid ourselves of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/4082">TS</a>]

01:08:05   evil and stop imagining that we can rid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/4085">TS</a>]

01:08:07   ourselves of violence and start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/4087">TS</a>]

01:08:10   imagining how we can accept those things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/4090">TS</a>]

01:08:15   about ourselves and incorporate those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/4095">TS</a>]

01:08:18   things into into a true clear-eyed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/4098">TS</a>]

01:08:24   understanding of what kind of animals we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/4104">TS</a>]

01:08:27   are but but nobody seems it to engage in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/4107">TS</a>]

01:08:33   that project because you know to presume [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/4113">TS</a>]

01:08:37   to presume that were that we can't be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/4117">TS</a>]

01:08:41   perfect is too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/4121">TS</a>]

01:08:44   it is so many people are just like well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/4124">TS</a>]

01:08:46   if we can't be perfect then I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/4126">TS</a>]

01:08:48   wanna I don't want to play if week if we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/4128">TS</a>]

01:08:53   can't be perfect then that means too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/4133">TS</a>]

01:08:57   much that means that's there there's too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/4137">TS</a>]

01:08:59   much potential ugliness and so so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/4139">TS</a>]

01:09:03   instead i prefer to believe that we can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/4143">TS</a>]

01:09:05   be perfect and and and and that begins [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/4145">TS</a>]

01:09:09   that should begin with my neighbors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/4149">TS</a>]

01:09:12   ok that perfect tap for impulse two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/4152">TS</a>]

01:09:15   perfect people is going to start with me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/4155">TS</a>]

01:09:17   trying to perfect my neighbors and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/4157">TS</a>]

01:09:22   just like oh here we go again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/4162">TS</a>]

01:09:24   I typical muscle in my shoulder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/4164">TS</a>]

01:09:35   where's my perfect your fucking getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/4175">TS</a>]

01:09:41   old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/4181">TS</a>]

01:09:42   you're falling apart right in front of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/4182">TS</a>]

01:09:43   us were already cut the show everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/4183">TS</a>]

01:09:45   can hear it nothing but never air kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/4185">TS</a>]

01:09:48   of please get a fresh blanket over here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPJo1lE/4188">TS</a>]