Ep. 168: "The Room of Stories"
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hello hi John hi Marilyn
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how's it going good I there was a storm
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up here in Washington and I left my
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office windows open a crack and the
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storm opened them up all the way and
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fill the room with storm
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oh no they appreciate perimeter yeah so
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everything is covered with a fine layer
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of ash and amazingly like the ceiling is
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suddenly peeling I don't know how it got
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up to the ceiling
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sure this isn't a dream ahead and the
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curtains were all askew and it was very
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exciting to because I saw when I pulled
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up I saw that the windows were all the
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way open and I was like who's been in my
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office opening the windows and then I
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came in and I was like oh the storm was
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in my office and non rainstorms a
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windstorm yeah we get those in the
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northwest quite quite a bit and when the
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seasons change we get a big windstorm
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and so it they are accompanied by rain
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often and and this one was but but my
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sense is that it's mostly wind that got
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in here and and did its dirty business
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oh my gosh that's ash from all the fires
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huh who knows where the where the lip
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the thin coating of greasy ash came from
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but yeah so like living it up on its
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like something so like living in a bomb
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travis has resin dude yeah except
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there's no like there's no water bug
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where's the carb where's the car where
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is the car John I told you the story
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right about the friend of mine from
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Florida that that woke up and took a big
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hit off his bong and then realize that
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then a a water bug had been hanging out
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of his bond was now in his mouth
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oh one of those flying Florida
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cockroaches this is
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size of a tennis shoe but imagine you
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just like our little wake and bake
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oh no do it was alive when a hole dude
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it was so live we so hard from living in
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a ball you that must have harsh mellow
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dude he was just chillin in his bong an
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office and he's like oh no wow oh my god
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totally in your mouth could be on
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oh do you need to do any kind of I don't
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know like regulation damage control with
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you what you just scrape it off your
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stuff but either so I cleared a little
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area right here for my elbow anywhere
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you want a blazer right now
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no I'm not today you know in fact I've
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already have already encountered one
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person today who made a comment my good
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friend Jason Finn saw me and he said so
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I you've just let yourself go to shit
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now you don't you're not even wearing a
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button button up shirt 20 supporter
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always a supporter to t know blazer no
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now you're just in a t-shirt and jeans
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and I was like you know what fuck it
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seasons changing before I got nobody to
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impress anymore i took a shower today
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the only reason I took a shower is that
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my family including my darling daughter
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had started to comment that Daddy smell
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oh because i had just let myself just go
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to hell over the weekend and I was like
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all right fine I'll take a shower
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I'm not above it uh-huh but I'm not
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gonna put I'm not you know more and
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white socks today i'm not i'm not
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dressing up for anybody anymore
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well it's not labor day yet true that's
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right you can still wear white socks
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Johnny said only I feel like there's you
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got Memorial Day and Labor Day and those
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sort of book and the it's okay to wear
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in formal clothes and white shoes are
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there other days in the year to change
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which are allowed to wear em good point
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our good question i think that there are
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there's a limited number of time number
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number number of weeks in the year that
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you can wear any item of clothing that
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has a wreath or a reindeer on it
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right so you have you start doing that
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before I mean personally I feel like
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thanksgiving is is the day before which
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you should not wear or have anything to
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do with the reindeer it's gonna seem
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like the washer broke
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yeah right exactly if it it's a lot
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that's a laundry date I peril
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I feel like if it's before thanksgiving
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and a reindeer comes up to you on the
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street and tells you that his fan belt
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broke and his wife and daughter are
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waiting in the car around the block and
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all he needs is five dollars you tell
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him to fuck off before before
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Thanksgiving after thanksgiving you go
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yeah okay I'll up i'll buy white part of
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the holiday spirit
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yeah the reindeer out so that's that's
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one thing
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definitely I feel like you know I'm
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saying about this the other day in my
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mind's eye on sep tember first of the
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year and i don't mean the calendar i
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mean the year as the year occupies
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physical space the year takes a right
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turn a 90-degree right turn September
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first and the implication of that right
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turn in my mind's eye is that the year
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is square and that every four months it
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takes another right turn
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but that is not actually how the year is
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built the rectangular year
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well no I mean for oh I'm sorry every
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three years every three years it would
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take a right turn
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I'm sorry every three months what am I
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talking about every three months
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you are so high right now that's pretty
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high the timer october november december
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so it's the last third of the year it's
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like you turn the corner on a triangle
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that right well so but here's the
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problem
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there's definitely a right-angle turn
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September from August August your head
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along in an east-west direction and then
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September first you take a right hand
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turn 90 degree turn and now you are
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headed in my mind's eye
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you're headed south into fall
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and then you get in you're headed south
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into fall and and you know and maybe a
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little bit downhill but then sort of
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after thanksgiving you start to go
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uphill and then christmas is there and
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then at New Year's you definitely take
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another 90 degree right hand turn now
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headed west into the new year right but
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then somewhere in january-february you
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start to edge to the right you're not
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taking a right hand turn but you heading
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right you're you're veering right into
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march april and that's kind of a rounded
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turn where you're headed
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you know you're headed north again but
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in a little bit of a you know it's a
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little bumpy the ride but definitely
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bye-bye may you're headed north
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you're heading in a northerly direction
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and then in June there's a kind of an
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it's not a it's not a gradual turn it's
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an angled turn it can and i cannot to
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stern like an obtuse turn nice easy turn
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they're definitely headed north at this
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point but you're headed in a kind of at
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an angle so that when you get to july
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again you have to you have to like comp
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the rest of that turn if you're going to
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make it to that if you're going to make
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it back to sep tember so july and august
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are headed
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I think kind of in a I mean that through
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a series of minor turns they have to end
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up headed back east but it's very funny
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that the spring and summer is a series
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of gradual angled turns whereas spall
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and winter are are defined by these two
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right angle turn I should have been
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drawing this instead of just strictly
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listening
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yeah its contents maybe they could draw
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that up for us and I feel like somewhere
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in the shape of the year the shape of
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the year and feeling februari March
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there might actually be turns that are
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kind of back to the west a little bit
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it's not it's not clear that it's always
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rounding back to september's some of
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that some of those weeks like right
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around him especially around it leap
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year you know you're going uphill and to
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the west babies that a third dimension
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you know before your like before you
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level off and head start headed down
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into the North back into spring so there
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are several days in there where I feel
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like costume changes are maybe not
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mandatory but but certainly new things
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come into play because I'm wearing a
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tweed hat today and I feel like it looks
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good on you
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I feel like that is pushing it for for
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august 31st it seemed more like i like i
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like i like fall headgear
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yeah I feel like I feel like a tweed hat
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is is it you shouldn't even wear it in
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September I feel like it's an october
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november december thing yep
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yeah but then in by December you should
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be he should be transitioning into a
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kind of a fur hat or a knit hat over and
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then in the spring
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you're going back you gradually as time
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goes on from from knit caps to kind of
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you know 22 whimsical hats like an era
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the head type thing
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well no I mean I do have a baseball app
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that has moved moose antlers all I want
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this so much when I was in like seventh
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grade and that's when I got it and i've
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been wearing it ever since
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but you know like you that's when you
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start to wear your chapeau your various
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Shippo your newsboy cap and your and
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your you know your felt fedora type pats
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something jaunty in the spring
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whoo-hoo and then in that and then in
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late spring you can bring a bust out the
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baseball hats and all that stuff is it's
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really seasoned to taste i know this is
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not on the list for John's next project
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which we should talk about at some point
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by down I IC IC possibly a little thin
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volume the John fashion all aspects of
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fashion not sure
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men's clothes but fashion as as the as
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the elephant in the cultural room
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mmm fashion vs STYLE&FASHION reverses
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preference
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yes all kinds of those little shades I I
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went to I went to the junkyard today I
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had a very busy gay i woke up this
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morning I put the baby in the bath then
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I made her some bagels and then I put on
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an airplane to Paris don't want to the
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Oh blah here's how you say as a
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thank-you merci
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you can say merci bien or merci beaucoup
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depending on you know how funny you want
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to sound then i left the airport I went
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immediately to the junkyard
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I spent an hour at the junkyard and I
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and I honestly felt like you know I
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could just have I could just do a TV
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her day she's walking along and then she
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starts she starts kind of like handling
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the logo on the car and like he can't do
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that like somebody in some places that
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dont even even if you're walking along
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absent-mindedly just drawing one finger
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along the side of a car somebody's going
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yep so why around a junkyard you're
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looking at you know there's 10,000
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stories in The Naked City and every one
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of them ends up in a junkyard but also
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it's not to think about that a lot with
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a bad tattoo i am actually say it's mike
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as you see that you see that someday a
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corner is going to have to kind of draw
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that notebook yeah it's likely that
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person is going to be dead and they're
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gonna have to draw that tattoo for the
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yeah the last or describe it the most
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person that's going to see it and really
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appreciate it is the is the is the guy
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making like eighteen dollars an hour
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apparently at our German Blackwater
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gothic how I got a problem original
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certain
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rock chalk I'm sure that they just have
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I'm sure they have just uh a picture
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book of tattoos and you just circle the
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one just like I owe symbol for Shanti on
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the back of her neck circle kanji symbol
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for regret looks like winnie-the-pooh
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flying a yin-yang kite circle so anyway
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you're isn't your internet actually a
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junkyard is the story of
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twentieth-century industrialism write it
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that I mean you don't see a lot of cars
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from the thirties anymore in a junkyard
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but you definitely see them from the
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forties and fifties if you're lucky and
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then all their full of cars from the
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seventies and eighties and and just then
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on all the stories that are good but
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then then your mind starts to wander and
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you're thinking about Oh life and times
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thinking about dim sum and it's getting
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late in the day and what is a what do
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you have to do how how do you have to
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get out of here on the way out of the
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junkyard
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I'm talking to the guy behind the
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counter who calls he's calling me boss
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he calls me Bobby nice which is really
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nice i like boss I feel like getting
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called boss by the guide the junkyard is
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exactly right and he's got he's not
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suffering fools heat because first of
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all he sees the guy working at the jack
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currencies more fools per capita than
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anybody it aside from like a reporter
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for entertainment tonight at the VMAs
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right they're going to see a lot of
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fools but the guide the junkyard sees a
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different kind of fool i'm talking to
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him and I and I and he looks over my
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shoulder at somebody coming through the
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front door and he says hey buddy hey you
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know what you got
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you put that back don't just leave it
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and so I turn around and the guide
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walked in the door and somehow something
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had something in the door jamb had
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fallen down
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the pneumatic door closer and the guy
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had water guy walked in and he's wearing
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a baseball hat that's camouflaging it
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has a deer on it and he just seemed seen
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it and the guy behind the counter and
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seen him see it and he just kept going
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and so these discipline name that the
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counterman is disciplining the guys like
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you got it you know like fix that you
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don't just walk in and leave it so the
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guy goes back and he starts to try to
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fix it fix the door and I'm in the
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middle of asking the counterman question
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so I I figure okay the guys fixing the
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door now
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now I now it's my turn so I say so
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anyway is it possible that but the
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counterman isn't paying attention to me
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anymore he's focused on the door and he
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says to the guy
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hey hey pal you're making it more more
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complicated than it needs to be
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you just gotta and at that point a
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second guy walking in the door stops and
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starts helping the camouflage baseball
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hat guy fix the door jamb but i can see
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that the two of them together have now
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made it a hundred times worse now the
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entire top of the door is loose and and
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the junkyard guy he's not going to go
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out and get himself on principle on
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principle he's not going to so so then
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he says so then he's getting and i'm
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looking at the junkyard guy and I'm
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thinking okay my job right now is
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graceful exit because I've already asked
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I've already started to ask the
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counterman my final question twice and
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two times I haven't made it all the way
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at the end of the question and now the
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door is falling apart and I just want
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out of here but I can't get out of here
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because these guys are I've got the door
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blocked and it's like literally now that
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it's falling down around them so I can't
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leave but I'm not going to stand here
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and repeat my question a third time and
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I'm not going to i'm not going to put
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myself over to the side
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and wait in a in kuwait line for the for
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the attention to go back to me because
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when it finally does there's gonna be
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six guys in the room and they're all
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going to turn me and go now what was
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your fucking question
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and my question is does not rate that
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amount of attention right i'm at the
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junkyard there guys here that are
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rebuilding four-barrel carburetors
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that's not what I'm doing now i just
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went out and so I start to make my way
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to the door at which point the
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camouflage baseball hat time and his at
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this and completely unrelated dude who's
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in like a camel jacket the entire top of
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the door frame false starts with all its
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just falls completely I don't know how
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they did it and the counterman is like
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oh my you know it's like you guys come
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and at a certain moment the one the
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camouflage baseball hat guy is holding
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up the holding up one side of the frame
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and kind of leaning back and looking at
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it with his head and the other guys on
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the other side of the door holding up
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the frame and they make a perfect like a
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like a like a perfect Moorish arch one
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hand up here the guys at back is arched
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the other guys back is arched the the
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door is falling down and I just make for
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the gap and I as I'm as I leave I turn
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and I I pointed the counterman and I say
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I'll catch you later and proved right
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through and right as i make as red as I
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make it through the gap it's like the
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Millennium Falcon going out of the
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leaving the worms mouth in the asteroid
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who heard a hold or just completely
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comes apart and these guys are juggling
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parts and they're bumping into each
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other and it's just the catastrophe and
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I just barely made it out and that for
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all I know there's the half a dozen guys
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still stuck in that auto parts store
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because nobody knows nobody knows how to
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you got the last chopper out of Saigon
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you know what I fucking did and I'm
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grateful you know I'm grateful and part
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of that is I surveyed the situation I
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knew going in whatever the conversation
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I was going to have that counter guy
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could at any moment be interrupted by
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somebody who needed it was like a
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serious wrench turning guy who had a
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serious question
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I didn't foresee that the portal would
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be closing so fast huh
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so this day has had a lot of adventure
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already and then I went to do the dim
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summits play on so i pretty much
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everything I know about junkyards comes
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from like a scene in slacker
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I I used to think a junkyard was like a
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I thought the place was kid I thought oh
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junkyard that's a place we take an old
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car is dead and it goes and lives there
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and it's like it's like because I gotta
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be heaven right but slacker help me
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understand that there's a reason for
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junk cars which is you go there and you
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it's a great idea and back in the old
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my mom would say my mom is teaching my
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daughter to say Chevy now that's how you
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it's not like she's correcting a her 1c
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when she says chevy it's just that my
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mom pronounces it should be
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I've never heard that chevy's I never
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heard shitty Senate doesn't know hi
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thing must be some it's a western Ohio
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thing and so she say so like my kid has
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all the different kinds of cars you see
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and identify cars
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she knows every kind of car she knows
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every kind of nut
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back name every kind enough and so she
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she was driving down the street and one
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of the games you like supply as you know
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nissan toyota ford ford shivvy and I'm
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like shit EP oh my god I've been hearing
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that my whole life and now my kid is
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saying it should be but it used to be
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you could go to the junkyard if you had
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a Chevy you knew that you just did find
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a whole bunch of shit he's in the
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junkyard and you'd find the shitty part
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that you needed and it will bolt right
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on to your car and now of course cars
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are just they're made by 3d printers
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they're basically computers with wheels
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yeah they're just they're all injection
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molded and none of them you know they're
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not really like fixable in the same way
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but there are enough people that I mean
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when I was the hour-and-a-half i spent
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walking around the rainy junkyard
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looking for the particular part i was
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looking for
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there were a dozen other people out
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there and you know you bring your own
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tools to the junkyard is really huh
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and so a bunch of people walking around
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with their toolkits and they're they're
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taking the trim off of the door of the
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off the passenger side door of a ford
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aerostar or they're you know they're
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they're trying to figure out how to
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dismantle the air-conditioning hoses
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from a from a caprice classic and people
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still enough people doing that kind of
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work that there's that there's still
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cause for other a lot fewer junkyards
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and there were I think I mean I used to
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spend a lot of time in them when I was
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young because I i was trying to
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customize my car
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whatever
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maybe if you own the land it's gonna be
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a pretty good deal it's like a parking
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lot right i mean like your he is not
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going to cost you that much to have it
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right and over time somebody will
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eventually get the the manifold cover
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case of that shitty exactly and then
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when the car has been completely
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stripped then you crush it and sell it
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for the scrap metal value so when you
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see those semi trucks driving down the
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road with with the 25 squished cars on
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the better huh
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they're going from a junkyard to a metal
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yard and then circle of life
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that's right circle of life that's right
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so wandering around i am what i was
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looking for a specific part but as I but
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I got I got caught up in the loop in the
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lives of some of these cars where was
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just like oh that that car could talk I
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mean that car can talk because you all
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you have to do is look at it and it's
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telling you so much about itself and
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what it's seen the miles its travels
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literally and figuratively
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so it was it made me want to do is go
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back to the junkyard
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I haven't been to one in a long time i
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was looking for a specific part but
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really i don't i don't want it i don't
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want to need any one part i want to go
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there and find the part I didn't know I
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mm you know mmm such as a candle thing
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you're you're on a building from mine
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except you're not young right it's like
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a young man's journey that's right you
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don't you may not know what your what
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your grill cup is but you want the one
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that carpenter would use that's exactly
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it you want to find a comment you want
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to find a carpenter skup you walk around
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that mean the first thing you have to do
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is have faith that he step into the
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abyss and that that they're they're not
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going to fall
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who but i mean i know i know a lot about
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one of the things about a junkyard is
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for it to be useful for you at all
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you have to have a pretty good knowledge
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of what I'm what all cars look like such
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that you can see them in there
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completely dismantled state
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wrecked and picked over and still be
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able to tell what kind it is right
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because if you're in there looking for
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apart from a Nissan say yeah yeah it's
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don't make model year anything you gotta
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be able to look across a field strewn
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with junk cars where all the doors have
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been taken off and the hoods are up and
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the the glasses are broken and the roofs
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are crushed and you have to be able to
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teach you know use your encyclopedia of
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of cues to say like because I for
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instance i'm i'm looking for a Chevy
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truck chevy truck from a certain era GMC
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truck from certain era where a lot of
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trucks in a junkyard but if you don't
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know the difference between a Ford and
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Chevy you spend all afternoon walking
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all the way over to afford to I was
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going to try and look for the logo will
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goes long gone
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can't break that truck that truck rolled
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off rolled off the pacific coast highway
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and down a hill and sat in the you know
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set in the tide pool for four years and
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got towed out you better be able to tell
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that's a Ford well let's let's let's say
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the obvious it is probably not too cool
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to be using your iphone a lot at the
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junkyard
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well you know he doesn't like a little
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bit like a tingling if you're certainly
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if you're like what is this car
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yeah and and and also one of the rules
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of the junkyard is when what a body
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meets a body coming through the Rye who
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you don't really acknowledge the other
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person catching the shitty exactly
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because you are you are fucking
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scavengers prefer in a boneyard
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oh I see it's certainly a men's room if
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you keep your own counsel
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yeah you're not like PayPal my man there
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to make friends yeah what are you
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looking for like no this carpet checker
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Imperial exactly
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no you don't ask to borrow somebody's
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tools you don't even this is one of the
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few areas where where a where people are
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going about their business such that you
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don't even nod and may
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i contact if you see if you come upon
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somebody out there it's it is it's
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already it's basically already two steps
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toward the apocalypse so so your first
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concern is to meet somebody in one of
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those places you have to assume that
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they want your water it's not become
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addicted to water that's right but did
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not have predicted the water but maybe
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mmhmm yeah once again this episode of
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the loss just a quick side note i should
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write this down
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I know you got a lot of projects in your
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player and another one would be just put
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out the fucking rule book for all the
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stuff that a lot of people don't know
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out you could do it and anonymously
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maybe more like some kind of a book like
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you don't even miss the rules were not
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even allowed to talk about and I'm sure
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to tell you I didn't even know junkyard
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head rules like that
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oh yeah you could you could save me so
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much indignity somebody from Vice
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magazine Romy not very long ago and they
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said would you write a book about her
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write an article at least in her right
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well that's why they're asking me would
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you write up an article about all the
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rules that people should know before
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they act like citizen journalists
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videotaping police brutality or whatever
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yeah because i had made some comments
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over the years to the effect of to the
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fact that people that such a such a
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volume needs to be widely disseminated
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because people's citizen journalism is
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being somewhat hamstrung by the fact
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that they don't understand
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portrait mode know and they don't
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understand not to say fuck stock fuck
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that these are good rules while they are
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feeling video tapings John you do not
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know how much intestinal fortitude it
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takes for me every day to not walk up to
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people grab their hand and turn it 90
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degrees but you have you a different
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shape TV than i do you know that's gonna
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look like you know what that's gonna do
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you have any idea what does i know
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people are taller than wide generally
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but just doing a favorite hold it
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sideways
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yeah it's a basic rule I mean that one
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really useful it would be good for
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people we should collaborate on a guide
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amateur journalists
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their phone that can make so much of a
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action as you can stay quiet and like if
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better view of it slow movements but not
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slide all that i would you also going to
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think about what is interesting about
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the whole case so all that and so that
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the person from vice was awesome sent me
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a long email with their thoughts and
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their construction of it and and what
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what you know how they imagine it and
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then I just completely just drop the
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ball and didn't didn't reply which I
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feel terrible about and I should maybe
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go find that and and dig that up because
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series of little books I was always
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junkyard how to behave backstage at a
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book i mention this before but it's a
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book that I adored in in college because
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lists Kyle of these books of of trivia
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of books called rules of thumb that were
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pick a line all that kind of stuff but
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guide to life which is not quite as
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advice that people have written into
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chapter but they would be collected into
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different different kinds like you know
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how to how to not look like a doofus in
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know how to how to basically fix your
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car this kind of stuff I think something
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it's friendly feeling better title could
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be extremely useful
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writing it down right down the kinds of
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things you want to collect and then
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the tips late getting tips for my
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podcast avoid saying things like
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cleaning the tips how do you how do you
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let you ride in the cab
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just extremely specific to you how do
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Gary remember that you've met yeah how
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do you get if you if you are a Mayan
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that's that's fenced-off who do you talk
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one of my favorites I can't do this but
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i love that you can do this is is your
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whole thing of like you know if you
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wanna walk in somewhere walk in like you
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own the place
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right in no they're sooo me on the place
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opportunities to tell anecdotes right
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the best anecdotes is getting thrown out
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for me to get thrown out of a place now
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own the place and to get unceremoniously
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you should own it just you know I have
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to dust off my hat because that you know
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the guy throw out and throw your hat in
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yeah just optimization until you feel
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your hand at I'd pick your pardon sir I
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am as God made me sir
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then we added we are our regular dim
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summit where it was decided I was not
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other friends Cal McAllister who owns an
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advertising agency called
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the WAGs Lee school for girls uh-huh and
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Matt Dresner who owns an advertising /
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PR agency
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oh man this is your extended marketing
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team I've been hearing about this
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because it's really you get all the
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terrible ideas for stuff you should be
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doing this is the team and the team's
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decision today we're not meeting but its
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people the decision of the team today
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people here there is some kind of way I
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might be able to promote my twitter feed
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minutes here by advertising agency
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friends and they're trying to they're
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trying to expand my social media
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recharge sure yeah but the decision was
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listen we should just figure out how to
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be multi millionaires and the and the
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pond in your yard who he started out
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this guy started outputting pawns in
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that's installing ponds and then you you
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build up a little nest egg and then you
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start your own pond installation company
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when there's a gold rush he sell
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pickaxes uh-huh right so he's out there
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chain at the guy who's making the ponds
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who's making huh
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the pond equipment and he says this
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guy's not this you know this guy's not
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moving refrigerators he's not installing
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color TVs that's all you do it that's
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he systematize 'as the pond business
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vertical integration
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pounds in the summer he's selling 50,000
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man and so when I have a friend i have a
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friend in seattle figure this out to we
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legalized weed here
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uh-huh and everybody was going to rest
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everything all shit I better gotta be I
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weed I gotta start selling weed I gotta
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get in this weed business in on the
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ground floor but I've got a pal who went
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to China and figured out the weed
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appliance the weed delivery appliance
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that was going to be the industry
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standard and then he cornered the market
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on the weed delivery appliance so he
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never has to touch a weed talking about
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like 44 consumer to get into their
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yeah i'm talking about a of the vaping
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oh right gear right let's see that would
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that the weed people are going to put
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the weed into who never grow anything
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that's right it's some kind of you know
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it's some kind of like yeah yeah it's
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like it looks like yeah that's where you
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get the more intensified you're not like
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really sucking on it like there's a
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whole what I think there's a name for
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this it's like vaping before we do they
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call it
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yeah I don't know some kind of Jabba the
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Hutt technology you have seen people use
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it on and I remember when they're
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talking about what whether there should
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be legal weed I gasps maybe the early
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2000s there is one go-to woman they
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if you imagine like last week we don't
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call them go tues and we're gonna hit
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from another time but you're like a big
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bag new york times sunday New York Times
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comes in
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yeah she looked like she was doing
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something with filling that bag with
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smoke and then and it was really
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disturbing to watch her use it but but
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then you get you get big hit of the weed
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yeah that might be you might be that
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might be something else that might that
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might be
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you know we used to cut the bottom of a
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milk carton and stick it in a sink full
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of water
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I is your time was that can make a bong
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out anything or paste
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well we need to be a hobby of ours you
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keep iPod to pretty much anything and I
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don't like things from mcdonalds the
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children would get his toys
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what the hell good is that skill now I
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know I know tears and rain so this guy
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goes in part of his strategy that is not
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just doesn't want to be pushing we see
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also he wants to go and get exclusive
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deals with if I could say Chinese makers
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of the wii delivery system
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selena is that nobody else to get
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exclusive deal
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he's got he's got the Northwestern's got
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the pnw district locked in
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well yeah he's provided the technology
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so all these guys that are like oh man i
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sold a thousand weeds
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yeah he's like I saw a hundred thousand
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we'd pellets or weed weed you know
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pressurized we've rods and I mean it's
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money in the bank this guy and he never
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touched you never have to touch a weed
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although i think he likes it but I had a
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friend in college
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who's big idea was he was going to make
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bombs out of two cans and like stuff
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like out of a like a like a school can
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so at the time we were all I don't know
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about I don't know about y'all down down
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and had the new college in Florida yeah
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but up in the northwest we were all
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chewing tobacco all the time didn't we
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were different stuff there and so we all
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had we all in Copenhagen cans in our
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back pockets creating very appealing
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rings in our genes and my friend he took
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that you can and he made a he made a
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hole-in-one side on the run the rim on
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the edge right a hole and then 90
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degrees around the circle he made
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another hole and then he had a stem with
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a bowl that fit inside one of the holes
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its appellate it's super good and then
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if you filled the toucan one-third full
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of water
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God and then put the lid on it it was it
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was it was watertight ok and then you
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turn the king
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and at an angle and put your mouth over
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the one hole and the bowl was in the
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other hole and it's a fully functional
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ball if the pit and and he and he
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honestly was like I'm gonna make I'm
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gonna make a million dollars i'm gonna
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summon them because then when the thing
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is when you when you want to break it
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down you just dump the water out take
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the stem out stick it in the toucan and
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stick that you can you too can circle in
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your jeans you can second that your
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chick gets them it should if he had
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called the juke it's it would be a
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billionaire and Sam come on this is just
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sent you a link this idea has been
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colonized what I just look at the tip
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can bong
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oh my god if I see a picture of my
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friend i am going to lose my shit well
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there's a lot of there's a lot there's a
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lot of a lot of variance here still not
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entirely sure why you would want to do
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this but ah alright not sure why you
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would want to do it because of being has
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been that's American ingenuity at the
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heart of its etsy for weed yet the bomb
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is just the partners with you oh my god
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you can't boring there's hundreds of
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them to get so while that one look at
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that handsome let's get runs USB well
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this guy's gotta this guy's got some
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kind of holster for it
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yeah looks like he's got so i guess
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because utility kilt oh well camouflaged
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on so people won't be able to see it so
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this is called oh it's called the AK
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files i thought it was that meant the
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Alaska files but then i click on it and
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it's a it's a website for people who
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have ak-47 oh I see here's one made out
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of a heinz ketchup bottle
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alright my goodness just strange images
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John so this guy so he's a heavyset guy
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he's blacked out his eyes he's cradling
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an ak-47 he's wearing a stripy sort of
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French or Russian commando shirt
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uh-huh and I gotta see this he's got a
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toucan hipster Jennings comes calling it
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a towel AK files IC tactical tobacco
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oh IC thats I get it it's a bedside it's
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got that it's got a non-call velcro
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anymore it's got the clove hitch or
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whatever it's called that little hook
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and loop the loop tactical hook-and-loop
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look at that is a lie
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this led this is a richer subculture
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then I realized I instinctively don't
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like that guy just because
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come on yeah yeah there's just there's
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something at the level whatever it is
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that a person enjoys there's always the
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desire to complicated
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mm it's like drinking games oh yeah yeah
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but even like with drinking games where
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it's like really like you kind of have a
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game to drink
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yeah you know in this case you gotta
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have a good have a pouch for everything
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some people love to be organized they
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have people are bored yet you know you
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know in all honesty I'm gonna tell you
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I'm gonna tell you a little story
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ok last night i was cleaning house
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cleaning a room in my house that hadn't
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been cleaned in a long time and I was
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having some i was getting some help
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getting some help cleaning the room
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because I was not able to do it myself
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because this was the room of stories
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oh my goodness yeah and so the room of
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stories it's very hard for me to clean
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it i can clean other rooms in the house
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but the room stories it's hard because
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you have everything you pick up as a
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very long story attached to it and I
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don't want to throw it away because then
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you throw the story away but anytime I
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ask somebody to help me they end up
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sitting on the floor while I tell them
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stories about things and the room
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doesn't get cleaned yeah and so I had a
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I had a friend helping me clean the room
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and she was very unsympathetic which is
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what was needed
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yeah but i had to say to her like listen
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you have to be somewhat sympathetic
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because you know these stories they they
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all matter and at one point she picked
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up a pouch which was a tactical velcro
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hook and hook and bead pouch which I
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actually got from you i was doing the
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flying on it
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nope it's a pouch that was designed to
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go on the strap of a messenger bag right
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so already it's it's like bike messenger
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connected and it i believe it was for an
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ipod or maybe an early iteration of a
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yeah it was i'm pretty sure I know what
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it's for it was for you can put your
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candy bar phone in this velcro holder
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and it had the velcro wouldn't go around
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you like your turn back to strap that's
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right you can access access your phone
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it was Timbuktu branded and she said
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what does this does this does this fit
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your phone and I was like no she's also
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but that's gotta be good for something
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she's well because that's exactly what i
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said and she said doesn't fit any item
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that you currently have and I said no no
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but it's that that's not what matters
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it's a bit of perfectly great little
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pouch you could put matches in it at
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udcc I've I could say and nothing I
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don't not sure you're talking about here
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but whoever that person is an
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understanding that may have been
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designed have a nokia phone in it but
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that doesn't mean you gotta quit fucking
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nokia phone and now there could be there
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could be 1500 paper clips in there you
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could put talking about the popcorn
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popcorn in there
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thank you could put popcorn in there
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that is not a thing I thought the
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popcorn hold but I could should have
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said that you could put a bunch of short
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pens are you can you can have a handbook
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space but it's a handful of space but
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right before conference you can have
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space pens made that you give out to
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people you see myself well I don't want
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to dig in my bag everything i want to
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give away a band I got emotional about i
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have apart from everybody and even one
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hand sanitizer in there you could fill
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it with it you can fill it with a with
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like a conditioner you can put coffee
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beans in their members great so so I so
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I'm fighting her on this Timbuktu strap
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a tactical strap holder like you know a
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toothpick candle holder and she said she
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gave me this look the stern look the
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unsympathetic look and she said
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seriously gonna fight me over this thing
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and I was like no and she said good and
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she put it in the go to the thrift store
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bag huh
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and I was like okay I mean that is a
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time sometime i agree but seriously that
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is a perfectly good tactical pouch and
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then the next thing she held up was a
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piece of green string and it was a it's
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a beautiful piece of green string that I
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have been keeping around because I knew
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it was a special piece of string and I
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knew that it was going to be useful i
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haven't yet figured out how it's going
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to be useful but it was definitely going
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to be useful and I realized that she was
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holding it up that I had been carrying
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it with me for 23 years and that every
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time I pulled it out of something I was
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like this is killer string it was about
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one foot long and then and the thing is
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it's just a piece of string so I would
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move it whenever I would be cleaning out
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earlier box i would just move the string
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to the new box because it seemed crazy
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to throw away this incredible one foot
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length of string and she was likes and
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again she came into like seriously this
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yeah i mean before I even protested she
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was like what is this even in both of
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these cases also there's not particular
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stories associated with these but but
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there is to you obvious utility in these
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magical potential potential utility
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potential utility there was always going
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to be a moment when I was like cut out
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you know what I need one foot of really
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awesome green string or six inches twice
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or six inches twice of green string but
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but string that has to be spent it has
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big string that has a kind of special
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some mad magnitude Trapattoni gift for a
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well that is exactly one of the things
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that I thought of but in any case she's
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holding up the string and I I so I had
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already acquiesced to the timbuk2 pouch
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going in the thrift store thing but the
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string was a bridge too far and i took
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the string and I just hiding string
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saving I tied it around my wrist wrapped
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it around twice tied it with a job he
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and I said look it is now it is
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decorative and I'm not somebody who
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wears a lot of adornment but now i have
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so today i have this spectacular i think
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green sort of rope risks a but it's like
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a personal Kabbalah thing because
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without men like Madonna bracelet
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exactly well well isn't she the one who
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made the Kabbalah bracelet popular for
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you to everybody's wearing string this
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is the problem the next thing that Jason
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Finn says to me after he notices that
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i'm wearing a t-shirt because he says
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what's with the coldplay bracelet haha
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oh my effing getting it from all sides
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here I the string has been with me for
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23 years and now i'm rocking it i think
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pretty well I think it's like it's
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pretty jazzy but the thing is you're
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like somebody like think about all the
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things you just in this visit of ours
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alone talking about being able to tell
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the stories and feel the past of the
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cars right you think about the way that
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those startups out there are pulling the
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memories out of old men's clothes you
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look at the string and you see a story
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you like somebody named night Shyamalan
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movie like you're seeing stuff that
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other people can't see it's not because
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you're hallucinating
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it's because they did they don't have
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the sensitivity to the vibrations that
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you use the right you see what these
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objects are putting out there and
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they're just walking past going what
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really string think you're like yeah
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string they do not make string like this
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anymore if you went out like if you went
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to a store that said just if there was
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called just strength is probably a store
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in Portland
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I bet you there isn't it well or it's
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that's the type of straws string string
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along particles positively string strung
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out and they have artisanal stretch
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yeah it's also the type of store that
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would be on the Main Street about
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otherwise failing town haha alright
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alright like it like it would be inside
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the inside the former Tandy radio shack
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that be a place called like strings and
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things and you go in there and it's
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every kind of strength maybe the maybe
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the gal and I'm
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i'm pretty sure it's a gal who's running
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strings and things in downtown full of
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cats down everything is your batty the
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stripping yeah i bet you if i went in
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there with this string and said can you
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duplicate this string she would first of
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all she would take a moment and be like
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she got a loop but that's a little
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jewelers live ya should get out she'd be
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like that's incredible i haven't seen
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string like that since the eighties
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replicating the string it is not
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possible because she would go
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possible because she would go
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back in the back and she bring some
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string out you're crashing sheep yeah
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that's right she'll be back there for 20
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minutes should come out and she'd have a
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really apologetic look on her face and
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she'd say this is as close as I get but
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it just wouldn't have the hefty just
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three inches of light green jute yeah
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exactly it wouldn't it wouldn't have the
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it wouldn't have the waft or the the for
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the Wolves mm and and we would both
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no in fact that isn't it and I would
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walk out of there with the string that I
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have the string that I came in with you
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know what I mean
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and I'd be like that's right my-my to
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Mike my foot foot foot and it's
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basically a foot 12 inches of great
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strain and and no one can no one can
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take it from so glad you saved it i did
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get I did I did allow for a lot of
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things to get thrown away Bell what
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would you get money ask what were some
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like you know pound-for-pound for some
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relatively easy ones to let go of
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everything we're like that
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I'm glad somebody brought it up well
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there are two two things stick out one
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of them was about 15 years ago I took I
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took a correspondence geology course and
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i really enjoyed it and the way that you
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either way that you did the course was
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you you know you did your homework
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mailed it into the professor and the
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professor corrected it and mailed it
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back to you kidding me
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we said correspondence course about you
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it really hit literally sent in the mail
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that mailed it in an envelope to hide
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was a long time ago and so I I carried
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on this correspondence course and i
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really enjoyed the studying and I
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enjoyed the geology and I enjoyed the
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homework but when and everything was
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that that you would send the the the
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homework in and also sending a
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self-addressed stamped envelope
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so the professor would send them the
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homework back in an envelope which had
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your handwriting on it
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I remember the East always feel so weird
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to get a letter in my own handwriting ya
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self addressed stamped is when you can't
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remember what it was for right even
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weirder right when they're gone for a
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long time and then you're like you just
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get the self-addressed stamped envelope
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thanks so much anymore but that used to
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be a thing if you want free stuff it
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tells me some stickers or get our
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catalog or something like that or you
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know and it must be so weird to get mail
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and it was like a folded-up envelope
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with your own handwriting on it was
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super creepy
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yep so I got all the homework
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assignments back but I never opened the
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envelopes and now now that I've said it
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a couple of times i don't know whether
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to pronounce that envelope envelope also
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i'm gonna go with envelope from here on
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out they were envelopes to begin with
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but now their envelopes so but i but i
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enjoyed the class so much that it wasn't
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like I wanted to throw them away i just
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didn't I didn't care what I didn't care
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about the grade i didn't care about the
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you know I just never opened them but i
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kept them so i had 10 or 12 pretty thick
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envelopes it in my own handwriting that
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I knew had an entire class of geology in
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it and I couldn't and now it was 15
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years old I couldn't bring myself to
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throw it away and my unsentimental
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friend was like again I mean she really
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only needed one look which was seriously
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see that it's sort of like not clean out
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your couch all the way I don't want to
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leave something oh please tell me you
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open at least one of them so I so I was
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like all right and the thing is my job
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at the at this at this point in the
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cleaning had become just sit in a chair
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and things end up in my lap and I'm
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telling the story of them and she's
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ignoring me and and you know figuring
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stuff out but so I opened up the first
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one and here's this geology homework
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from 15 years ago and there's red
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teacher marks all over it from a teacher
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that I had never met
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saying great job really interesting read
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you know really interesting uh idea or
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whatever because I you know it was like
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I was I was expanding on it wasn't just
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like is this shifter what it was like I
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was talking about a geological ideas and
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so then I opened another one and hear
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all these red marks from this teacher
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where she's like John I really thought
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that this was you know great job and
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this is you know in here a couple more
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things to think about and so then I'm
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opening all the envelopes and I had been
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having this whole conversation with this
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teacher but I wasn't aware of it because
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I never opened the envelopes and by the
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end of the class she was writing all
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these long red remarks like you know
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what a pleasure having you in the class
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you know this you didn't you know
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exceptional work throughout and this is
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clearly an a paper at every level and
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and you know and at one point she was
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like I'm from Alaska to and started on
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my Kaiser never even knew never knew huh
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and this has just been sort of sitting
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there on my you know on it really
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actually on top of a dresser in the room
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of stories for all this time and you
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know now i feel like i should look her
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uh we had we had a really great
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conversation going and I was
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communicating exclusively in geology
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homework but she was you know sending me
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all this sort of flank personal chatty
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professor stuff my goodness and it was
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really it was pretty heavy and so I got
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to the last assignment which was the
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final paper which I barely remember
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writing it's like a 15 page paper on the
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island of Santorini and it's covered in
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her remarks and I was like all right you
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know what I can throw away all of these
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you know all these worksheets and all of
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these maps and all of this all of this
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colored pencil stuff I can throw it all
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away but i'm not going to be able to
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throw away this final paper with all of
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these personal remarks on it and so my
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unsentimental friend had provided for me
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by this time a multi pocket file folder
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which the truly on on a colorable items
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could could go in and be safely stored
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and so it found it found its own slot in
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the bag and feel good about that i think
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i can live with it
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I mean I feel like I you know like 12
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envelopes gone but the but the report
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got saved and strength that let you have
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that strength and the string got saved
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now that the one the final thing that
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I'm really torn about you have time for
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yeah you have somewhere else to be in
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fifth grade I liked downhill skiing
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quite a bit and my dad liked to downhill
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ski on the two of us were that we bonded
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a lot over downhill skiing and in fifth
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grade there was some sort of pottery
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module that came through our class where
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we were all making we were too old to
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make handprints in a circle of clay we
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were we were to the next level to make
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pencil holders or something
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do you remember making anything in the
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pottery yeah I remember making ashtrays
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master you can make a straight and later
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on you make a pipe when you're in
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college
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exactly ok so i'm sure a lot of my
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favorite it all comes back to marijuana
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does it does it eventually you're going
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to make a bomb but now it's funny I mean
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like you there was a lot of funny how
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much ashtray making there was when we
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were kids
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yeah just something with a Sunday school
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or or regular school or whatever it was
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you gotten past hand and footprints and
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you may be worn up the pencil holder you
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could at least make a rudimentary a
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place for your mom dad put
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instance yeah and and nobody in my
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family smokes
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by the time i was in fifth grade and so
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I had no I had no astray to make and so
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what I made was a little not little
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actually it's about the size of a
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paperback book and I wrote the word ski
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in clay on a clay square and I painted
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it and i fired it and I gave it to my
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huh and my dad put it up on the top of
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his kitchen cupboard and it was there
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and it moved with him and it went with
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him all the way everywhere he went
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and then when he died I inherited again
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and I put it in the room of stories upon
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on the top of the shelf and so I'm
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cleaning the room stories and my
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unsentimental friend picks this thing up
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and without even batting an eye
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cox her arm as though to throw it
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she's not even looking at me for
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approval she cocked her arm to throw
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this thing in the thrift store bag and I
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was like wait a minute and I tell her
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the story and she's just rolling her
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eyes and she says what good is it was
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like it never occurred to me it's not
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good for anything and she was like is it
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beautiful and I looked at it for the
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first time I had never really seen it
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before this moment and I realized that
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it was a piece of shit that I had and I
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was embarrassed that in fifth grade I
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mean in fifth grade there are children
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who can play the cello there are
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children who have played the cello for
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the President of the United States of
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America
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yeah in fifth grade spelling bee winners
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jugglers kids that have survived famines
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and i made this little shite thing
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that's not even an ashtray
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it's just a nothing it's just a shite I
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it's not even square
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I didn't even I didn't I wasn't even
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careful enough to square the edges
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it's like it's just a piece of shit and
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i was astonished to discover that this
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thing that had been with me my whole
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life it always peered down at me from
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some top shelf somewhere was just a hunk
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of garbage if if it went into the thrift
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store bag it would go through the thrift
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store and a good price that was at one
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cent and it would sit there on the shelf
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until somebody knocked it off and broke
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no one would mourn it
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uh-huh and yet I could not allow it to
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go and now what what does that say
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Marlon I i know that's I don't say that
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that's super-complicated and there's a
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lot of angles to that one and the ending
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you shovel on me with the ending that
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was quite a twist again because it
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sounds like as you look at it it had
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accumulated the value of being something
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your father hadn't hung onto through his
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life but as you look at it you didn't
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feel like it was anything super special
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i mean he he put it up on top of the
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Shelf because his son made it and but he
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couldn't possibly have been proud
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because the first time he saw it he must
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have looked at it and said oh shit now i
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have to carry this with me it's not
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it's not decorative it right just it's
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just shit it's just a piece of garbage
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yeah I don't over complicate this it was
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well no I so i put it so that was one of
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the few things that got put into
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so into the limbo state into the into
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the between universes place which is
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like balanced on the corner of a table
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everyone who walks into the room has to
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look around and say wow the room looks
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you clean up the room story is amazing
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and then their eyes will fall upon this
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ski sign
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alright well not exactly one thought on
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this this is not to try as much because
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i want to share this story but this is
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not to persuade you to keep it because
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it sounds like you probably don't need
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to maybe take a photo of it and that
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would be enough
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that's something that's what i did with
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a lot of my stuff that I had trouble
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getting rid of during one of our big
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purchase with photograph anything i
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wanted to keep the memory of but i have
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to say excuse me that one aspect of this
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is complicated is that the fact that
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it's fucked up an ugly and old and
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stupid becomes part of the charm to me
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and I you know you're little you know
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and think just because you were shitty
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at it doesn't make it not valuable on
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its own and Ally mention this because
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this one time when I was 10
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maybe probably four or five it's
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whatever i was still playing with
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play-doh and would have had a disney
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related Plato set and I made the world's
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shittiest snow white out of a single
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piece of red play-doh for my grandmother
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it was super ugly and super dumb but all
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I mean it took me what who cares a
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little kid I you know it just it was
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just a dumb thing I made it I was at
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their house i made this I gave it to her
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she was thrilled with it and she put it
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on the mantel right so this is probably
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not making maybe nineteen seventy one or
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two maybe she put it up there and she
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kept it there and it and it got old and
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stupid like Plato is not made to be kept
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over a fireplace for many years and it
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got kind of whitish and over the years
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she had to insert needles in it to like
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make it hold the head on and it was it
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was just the most ugly and dreadful
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crumbling thing you've ever seen in your
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of course by the time she passed away in
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1987 it was it was truly awful but you
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know at that point it had been up there
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for whatever 15 years and yeah we did we
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threw it away but it was quite a moment
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for me to realize my grandmother had
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kept that
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I was really young and as ugly and
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stupid as broken as it was it still made
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me remember her well but I didn't feel
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like I needed to keep the broken snow
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white but it was a nice memory for me so
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you know I think you can let the ski
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thing go let it go but you can still
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appreciate just because you don't have
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that in your hand anymore doesn't mean
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that you don't appreciate your dad and
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the fact that he kept because of you I
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think that that's a perfectly sane kind
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of sentimentality to have it doesn't
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mean you have to keep every piece of
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that could you let him in your heart
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even if you don't have ski on your shelf
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yeah yeah my you know my dad didn't have
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very good taste either he might actually
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thought it was good
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so many twists
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