Roderick on the Line

00:00:00 ◼   ► this episode of Roderick online is [TS]

00:00:01 ◼   ► sponsored by cards against humanity this [TS]

00:00:04 ◼   ► month they asked Jonathan man to help me [TS]

00:00:06 ◼   ► say hi to john terms time was it [TS]

00:00:23 ◼   ► hello hello Marilyn Rajic online [TS]

00:00:31 ◼   ► hello hello hello rather gonna live Bob [TS]

00:00:36 ◼   ► Robert online bomb that's good bump to [TS]

00:00:40 ◼   ► cover you know is that right yeah that's [TS]

00:00:43 ◼   ► our song this month [TS]

00:00:44 ◼   ► oh I love it already it's pretty catchy [TS]

00:00:46 ◼   ► it is M some candy songwriter figured [TS]

00:00:51 ◼   ► out a good cadence for our name em it's [TS]

00:00:54 ◼   ► a gift [TS]

00:00:55 ◼   ► I've come online i got hello hello [TS]

00:00:59 ◼   ► that's what we say that's what he says [TS]

00:01:01 ◼   ► he's he said something about grabbing [TS]

00:01:03 ◼   ► your turpentine we look a little bit of [TS]

00:01:04 ◼   ► a throwaway wait a minute [TS]

00:01:06 ◼   ► well you know we have never talked about [TS]

00:01:09 ◼   ► turpentine I slugging percentage how r [TS]

00:01:11 ◼   ► use the big week huh oh yeah that's [TS]

00:01:14 ◼   ► right to you tomorrow is election day [TS]

00:01:16 ◼   ► oh my god em how even in this is what [TS]

00:01:21 ◼   ► may [TS]

00:01:22 ◼   ► no no I mean you know is let's see I [TS]

00:01:25 ◼   ► mean obviously you've been preparing [TS]

00:01:27 ◼   ► your whole life but well I don't know [TS]

00:01:29 ◼   ► about that either but up but I so i [TS]

00:01:31 ◼   ► started talking about it is two people [TS]

00:01:39 ◼   ► probably in january and then bye-bye [TS]

00:01:43 ◼   ► March it was fully you know people [TS]

00:01:46 ◼   ► people were rallying i was i was [TS]

00:01:50 ◼   ► rallying and then we declared in second [TS]

00:01:54 ◼   ► week of april so when did the super PAC [TS]

00:01:57 ◼   ► get formed super PAC is still forming [TS]

00:02:00 ◼   ► the thing is you know you're not allowed [TS]

00:02:03 ◼   ► to be directly involved with that right [TS]

00:02:04 ◼   ► i cant and unlike other super PACs this [TS]

00:02:06 ◼   ► one truly is super because a the number [TS]

00:02:10 ◼   ► of nerds that support my campaign [TS]

00:02:12 ◼   ► actually form a kind of Hall of Justice [TS]

00:02:15 ◼   ► if you will and Hawkman yeah yeah does [TS]

00:02:21 ◼   ► and they're working on their invisible [TS]

00:02:23 ◼   ► plane right now [TS]

00:02:24 ◼   ► they have to build a crystal cathedral [TS]

00:02:27 ◼   ► m1a1 man she gets all the good stuff she [TS]

00:02:30 ◼   ► does yeah and the crystal cathedral also [TS]

00:02:33 ◼   ► great that was for sale at some point [TS]

00:02:35 ◼   ► they turned into a mall what happened [TS]

00:02:37 ◼   ► that is that right i can't imagine that [TS]

00:02:39 ◼   ► they wouldn't that they would [TS]

00:02:40 ◼   ► deconsecrated well there were problems [TS]

00:02:43 ◼   ► there were problems leaky roof anymore [TS]

00:02:47 ◼   ► well you know nobody said crystal is [TS]

00:02:49 ◼   ► going to be waterproof mm I don't know [TS]

00:02:50 ◼   ► but in the Reverend Schuler past [TS]

00:02:53 ◼   ► yeah and then I think his son took over [TS]

00:02:54 ◼   ► and i think it turned into like an [TS]

00:02:56 ◼   ► orange julius oh i see i'm not sure i [TS]

00:02:59 ◼   ► haven't kept up and read the trades [TS]

00:03:00 ◼   ► actually you know no one said crystal [TS]

00:03:03 ◼   ► was going to be waterproof was actually [TS]

00:03:05 ◼   ► that was the that was the working slogan [TS]

00:03:07 ◼   ► for a sex worker and you as a fact that [TS]

00:03:10 ◼   ► rose McCaskey Paul oh I think about the [TS]

00:03:14 ◼   ► same person [TS]

00:03:15 ◼   ► it's wrong my friends oh man big week [TS]

00:03:18 ◼   ► big week and welcome back it's been so [TS]

00:03:21 ◼   ► long since I talked to you I missed you [TS]

00:03:23 ◼   ► and you were gone I was worried about [TS]

00:03:26 ◼   ► you and what you're talking about that I [TS]

00:03:28 ◼   ► wasn't replying to your text so then I [TS]

00:03:31 ◼   ► was worried that you were worried all [TS]

00:03:34 ◼   ► those two so much worried you know you [TS]

00:03:37 ◼   ► were out of your comfort you were out of [TS]

00:03:38 ◼   ► your ears place you were somewhere else [TS]

00:03:41 ◼   ► and I was just I was anxious for you [TS]

00:03:43 ◼   ► oh thank you thank you there's good [TS]

00:03:45 ◼   ► reason um ya know I IE had to go to [TS]

00:03:49 ◼   ► three different to three different [TS]

00:03:50 ◼   ► places don't like throw-up excited [TS]

00:03:53 ◼   ► travel and do you know what my inner [TS]

00:03:56 ◼   ► Merlin is already rejecting this [TS]

00:03:58 ◼   ► possibility you know i just got a notice [TS]

00:04:01 ◼   ► less i got it i just got notice things [TS]

00:04:04 ◼   ► less than i do fine you know now he was [TS]

00:04:06 ◼   ► fine i am you know it was pretty good we [TS]

00:04:09 ◼   ► had some family time with the you know [TS]

00:04:11 ◼   ► family on the East Coast and they're [TS]

00:04:13 ◼   ► great i had to go to pdx is back in town [TS]

00:04:15 ◼   ► for 36 hours and then went to pdx for my [TS]

00:04:18 ◼   ► days [TS]

00:04:18 ◼   ► mmm got Pendleton shirt pretty excited [TS]

00:04:21 ◼   ► about just let's go yeah is it a is it [TS]

00:04:23 ◼   ► doesn't picture [TS]

00:04:23 ◼   ► no I got it big may say the Pendleton [TS]

00:04:27 ◼   ► board shirt is wool and yet it is [TS]

00:04:29 ◼   ► machine washable [TS]

00:04:30 ◼   ► that's right and I want this to be I [TS]

00:04:32 ◼   ► want this to be a 20-year shirt so I got [TS]

00:04:34 ◼   ► a big because i figure i'll watch it [TS]

00:04:35 ◼   ► sometimes [TS]

00:04:36 ◼   ► yeah well [TS]

00:04:37 ◼   ► that you've got it you've gotta you [TS]

00:04:38 ◼   ► gotta get a penalty shot a little bit [TS]

00:04:40 ◼   ► that's the tradition but you actually [TS]

00:04:42 ◼   ► can wash those things and put them in [TS]

00:04:45 ◼   ► the dryer and the shrinkage is minimal [TS]

00:04:47 ◼   ► understand anything anymore between [TS]

00:04:49 ◼   ► sous-vide and washable wall completely [TS]

00:04:51 ◼   ► lost but I look like Harry Potter in the [TS]

00:04:53 ◼   ► first movie like wearing his step [TS]

00:04:55 ◼   ► brother is a you know adopted brothers [TS]

00:04:57 ◼   ► clothes and if you just huge on me i [TS]

00:04:59 ◼   ► never saw the harry potter movies never [TS]

00:05:01 ◼   ► seen any of them know is that something [TS]

00:05:03 ◼   ► I should do is it twice [TS]

00:05:05 ◼   ► well you know I learned from the 16 [TS]

00:05:08 ◼   ► hours of programming did with dan I'm [TS]

00:05:10 ◼   ► didn't learn i'm reminded about how much [TS]

00:05:13 ◼   ► you're interested in the magics yeah [TS]

00:05:16 ◼   ► that's right [TS]

00:05:17 ◼   ► proof that we should let's wait till the [TS]

00:05:19 ◼   ► primary server but I won't talk about [TS]

00:05:21 ◼   ► that more [TS]

00:05:21 ◼   ► abracadabra I think about it a lot but [TS]

00:05:24 ◼   ► uh you know I'm there they're all good i [TS]

00:05:26 ◼   ► would say if you want one and only one [TS]

00:05:29 ◼   ► watch the third one [TS]

00:05:31 ◼   ► wow so just go right into the third one [TS]

00:05:34 ◼   ► I don't even need to learn the rules of [TS]

00:05:36 ◼   ► Quidditch i'll figure that out along the [TS]

00:05:38 ◼   ► way which is the biggest scam inclusive [TS]

00:05:41 ◼   ► including stadium deals all we're going [TS]

00:05:42 ◼   ► skating history of sports [TS]

00:05:44 ◼   ► we're gonna get so many angry technology [TS]

00:05:46 ◼   ► about this book which is it's a total [TS]

00:05:48 ◼   ► scam it's a scam am so I'm on my way [TS]

00:05:51 ◼   ► down here i was thinking about this [TS]

00:05:52 ◼   ► movie project that I've been working on [TS]

00:05:54 ◼   ► for a long time [TS]

00:05:55 ◼   ► ok screenplay that I've been you know [TS]

00:05:58 ◼   ► they're mowing over which is a which is [TS]

00:06:02 ◼   ► basically it is its neighborhood stick [TS]

00:06:05 ◼   ► fights as a which we've talked about [TS]

00:06:08 ◼   ► many times [TS]

00:06:09 ◼   ► oh yeah neighborhood stick fights as a [TS]

00:06:11 ◼   ► as a an organizing principle of the [TS]

00:06:16 ◼   ► future society it's like the kind of [TS]

00:06:19 ◼   ► games meet the warriors [TS]

00:06:20 ◼   ► yeah well in the sense that you know [TS]

00:06:22 ◼   ► hunger games is the reason that I guess [TS]

00:06:25 ◼   ► that it's popular well is that it's you [TS]

00:06:27 ◼   ► know it's populated with cute people but [TS]

00:06:31 ◼   ► but you know how hungry there's a blurb [TS]

00:06:34 ◼   ► Hunger Games turns on the idea that [TS]

00:06:38 ◼   ► people are forced by a controlling and [TS]

00:06:42 ◼   ► dystopian future society to fight in [TS]

00:06:45 ◼   ► this arena against one another and the [TS]

00:06:48 ◼   ► and and the heroine is always [TS]

00:06:50 ◼   ► protecting the weekend shot you know and [TS]

00:06:52 ◼   ► use in fighting they're fighting off a [TS]

00:06:54 ◼   ► certain kind of municipal original sin [TS]

00:06:56 ◼   ► basically they are there any these kids [TS]

00:07:00 ◼   ► have to fight as tribute because they [TS]

00:07:03 ◼   ► there was rebellious at one time that's [TS]

00:07:05 ◼   ► right that's right this is their [TS]

00:07:06 ◼   ► punishment and this is how they keep the [TS]

00:07:08 ◼   ► beekeeper rebellion down in the [TS]

00:07:10 ◼   ► provinces or whatever but but but my [TS]

00:07:12 ◼   ► premise is that neighborhood stick [TS]

00:07:14 ◼   ► fighting is something that a free [TS]

00:07:17 ◼   ► society would willingly and [TS]

00:07:19 ◼   ► enthusiastically enter into ok this is [TS]

00:07:23 ◼   ► what kind of games meets your company [TS]

00:07:25 ◼   ► softball team [TS]

00:07:26 ◼   ► yeah or like you know or the longest [TS]

00:07:28 ◼   ► yard [TS]

00:07:29 ◼   ► what was the football game that took [TS]

00:07:31 ◼   ► place in prison that was the longest [TS]

00:07:32 ◼   ► yard [TS]

00:07:33 ◼   ► there we go against mr. Burt Reynolds [TS]

00:07:35 ◼   ► that's right so it's I mean that may be [TS]

00:07:37 ◼   ► the longest yard is a bad example but [TS]

00:07:38 ◼   ► you know but but they are but but the [TS]

00:07:41 ◼   ► idea being that people would would [TS]

00:07:43 ◼   ► self-organize into tribes they already [TS]

00:07:46 ◼   ► do like on the weigh-in today so the [TS]

00:07:49 ◼   ► blue angels and all the Seafarer [TS]

00:07:51 ◼   ► airplanes are all getting out of Dodge [TS]

00:07:53 ◼   ► today they're all kind of you know like [TS]

00:07:54 ◼   ► the party's over and Boeing Field justly [TS]

00:07:58 ◼   ► yeah okay [TS]

00:08:00 ◼   ► boeing field two days ago was just like [TS]

00:08:03 ◼   ► a it was a menagerie of all the [TS]

00:08:06 ◼   ► different kinds of airplanes that were [TS]

00:08:07 ◼   ► three different performing air show [TS]

00:08:10 ◼   ► squadrons there was a there was a Marine [TS]

00:08:15 ◼   ► Corps osprey there were biplanes and you [TS]

00:08:19 ◼   ► know just the whole just the camp train [TS]

00:08:22 ◼   ► of followers that chase the blue angels [TS]

00:08:24 ◼   ► around and they're all getting out of [TS]

00:08:26 ◼   ► here and so the like all weekend long [TS]

00:08:31 ◼   ► all along boeing field there's been a a [TS]

00:08:33 ◼   ► collection of airplane nerds who park [TS]

00:08:36 ◼   ► their trucks and basically tailgate next [TS]

00:08:39 ◼   ► to the airport just to watch the plane's [TS]

00:08:43 ◼   ► take off and land in some ways the most [TS]

00:08:46 ◼   ► exciting part of any flight is the [TS]

00:08:49 ◼   ► take-off of the landing but also in [TS]

00:08:52 ◼   ► another way [TS]

00:08:53 ◼   ► not at all is that the most exciting [TS]

00:08:55 ◼   ► part and suddenly NASCAR is that when [TS]

00:08:58 ◼   ► you're most likely have a rack [TS]

00:08:59 ◼   ► yeah that's right that's where all the [TS]

00:09:00 ◼   ► that's where all the other tracks [TS]

00:09:01 ◼   ► happened on the ground but you know [TS]

00:09:03 ◼   ► watching a bunch [TS]

00:09:04 ◼   ► airplanes coming and flair and touchdown [TS]

00:09:06 ◼   ► it's like we got there but you know in [TS]

00:09:09 ◼   ► seattle city of of let's say the general [TS]

00:09:12 ◼   ► areas got a million people are so that's [TS]

00:09:15 ◼   ► enough to put 50 people down a million [TS]

00:09:18 ◼   ► people will generate between 1,500 [TS]

00:09:20 ◼   ► people who just want to watch planes [TS]

00:09:21 ◼   ► take off and land and some of them are [TS]

00:09:23 ◼   ► those people with the big white lenses [TS]

00:09:25 ◼   ► on their cameras who are obviously [TS]

00:09:26 ◼   ► taking pictures to sell em to James [TS]

00:09:30 ◼   ► aircraft manual if they still make that [TS]

00:09:33 ◼   ► but as I'm driving in so i'm driving [TS]

00:09:37 ◼   ► along and i see that i see the airplane [TS]

00:09:39 ◼   ► people who it's now it's just the drip [TS]

00:09:41 ◼   ► drip sand drags of them maybe there's 15 [TS]

00:09:45 ◼   ► or 20 left [TS]

00:09:47 ◼   ► who are the blue angels are gone now [TS]

00:09:49 ◼   ► they're just watching like that there [TS]

00:09:51 ◼   ► will be there watching the experimental [TS]

00:09:53 ◼   ► ultralights take off and the end and I'm [TS]

00:09:56 ◼   ► thinking like there's a self-selecting [TS]

00:09:58 ◼   ► group of people who care about a certain [TS]

00:10:01 ◼   ► aspect of airplane culture and this is [TS]

00:10:05 ◼   ► how they're spending their monday [TS]

00:10:06 ◼   ► morning and then I i drove through [TS]

00:10:08 ◼   ► georgetown and pass the bus stop and at [TS]

00:10:11 ◼   ► the bus stop there were there is a small [TS]

00:10:13 ◼   ► group of people who looked like they had [TS]

00:10:16 ◼   ► wandered out of a comic con right they [TS]

00:10:22 ◼   ► had the whole have the whole look but [TS]

00:10:24 ◼   ► one of them might have been in a utility [TS]

00:10:25 ◼   ► kilt there was a guy with a sort of [TS]

00:10:28 ◼   ► dishwater blonde ponytail their their [TS]

00:10:34 ◼   ► jackets had lots of buttons and badges [TS]

00:10:36 ◼   ► on them [TS]

00:10:36 ◼   ► somebody might have had a stuffed animal [TS]

00:10:38 ◼   ► on a lanyard around their neck pretty [TS]

00:10:44 ◼   ► sure there was a there was a my little [TS]

00:10:47 ◼   ► pony component to someone's socks and [TS]

00:10:52 ◼   ► I'm like okay now there's another group [TS]

00:10:53 ◼   ► of people self-selecting into a little [TS]

00:10:57 ◼   ► tribe [TS]

00:10:58 ◼   ► I don't know why they're here why [TS]

00:10:59 ◼   ► they're waiting at this bus stop where [TS]

00:11:01 ◼   ► they would have come from where they're [TS]

00:11:02 ◼   ► going and then I started thinking about [TS]

00:11:04 ◼   ► my stick fighting screenplay [TS]

00:11:07 ◼   ► mhm is the way like the Warriors part I [TS]

00:11:10 ◼   ► like the idea of the year whatever group [TS]

00:11:12 ◼   ► you're coming together with there's a [TS]

00:11:14 ◼   ► strong brand presence strong brand [TS]

00:11:15 ◼   ► that's exactly right the warrior [TS]

00:11:17 ◼   ► is it is a perfect example right you [TS]

00:11:19 ◼   ► don't fuck with the Wong's that's right [TS]

00:11:21 ◼   ► for you get those baseball guys baseball [TS]

00:11:23 ◼   ► furies yeah the guys in the in the in [TS]

00:11:25 ◼   ► the silca the like the silk suits up and [TS]

00:11:31 ◼   ► so I'm thinking but here's the here's [TS]

00:11:33 ◼   ► the question for you and this is this is [TS]

00:11:35 ◼   ► this is something I feel like we should [TS]

00:11:37 ◼   ► pose to our to our listeners there have [TS]

00:11:42 ◼   ► to be some combat rules right you don't [TS]

00:11:45 ◼   ► want to just be because if there weren't [TS]

00:11:48 ◼   ► any combat rules right the snipers would [TS]

00:11:50 ◼   ► win every time [TS]

00:11:52 ◼   ► oh right right now right you can't just [TS]

00:11:54 ◼   ► have each kid just like it's it can't [TS]

00:11:56 ◼   ► just be a free-for-all [TS]

00:11:57 ◼   ► let's never was never intended to be a [TS]

00:11:58 ◼   ► fight to the death that's why it's a [TS]

00:12:00 ◼   ► stick fight stick fight that's right but [TS]

00:12:02 ◼   ► like but so there needs to be combat [TS]

00:12:05 ◼   ► rules that those combat rules need to [TS]

00:12:07 ◼   ► also incorporate modern technology [TS]

00:12:11 ◼   ► because some of the tribes are going to [TS]

00:12:14 ◼   ► be technologists oh IC right so if you [TS]

00:12:17 ◼   ► just like ups are you can only fight [TS]

00:12:18 ◼   ► with sticks [TS]

00:12:19 ◼   ► there's going to be some group of people [TS]

00:12:21 ◼   ► that work as engineers for blue origins [TS]

00:12:24 ◼   ► for instance who are going to be like [TS]

00:12:26 ◼   ► we've invented a better stick and our [TS]

00:12:29 ◼   ► stick is made out of this and it [TS]

00:12:31 ◼   ► performs the following way and this way [TS]

00:12:34 ◼   ► it becomes a little bit like the robot [TS]

00:12:35 ◼   ► wars like the road was the weather [TS]

00:12:37 ◼   ► wouldn't make a little robot find [TS]

00:12:38 ◼   ► another robot em right you but their [TS]

00:12:40 ◼   ► rules their together gotta be rules you [TS]

00:12:42 ◼   ► can we could be a weight thing it could [TS]

00:12:44 ◼   ► be a material thing but they're gonna [TS]

00:12:45 ◼   ► hack on that with technology to make a [TS]

00:12:47 ◼   ► better stick that's right and they're [TS]

00:12:48 ◼   ► going to be some people that you know [TS]

00:12:50 ◼   ► they're gonna be like i imagine one [TS]

00:12:52 ◼   ► component of the of the of the the nerd [TS]

00:12:54 ◼   ► stick fight quadrant are going to be [TS]

00:12:58 ◼   ► like the dwarves or whatever like the [TS]

00:13:00 ◼   ► there gonna be a bunch of bearded guys [TS]

00:13:02 ◼   ► who like to dress like dwarves in Lord [TS]

00:13:04 ◼   ► of the Rings not that little people not [TS]

00:13:06 ◼   ► miners and forgers yeah right and [TS]

00:13:09 ◼   ► they're gonna be they're gonna be like [TS]

00:13:10 ◼   ► uh probably [TS]

00:13:12 ◼   ► normal normal size adult people but who [TS]

00:13:14 ◼   ► really admire the dwarf aesthetic ok [TS]

00:13:17 ◼   ► right they get the kind of chainmail [TS]

00:13:20 ◼   ► leather long braided beards long hair [TS]

00:13:24 ◼   ► right you and what strange to me as i [TS]

00:13:27 ◼   ► never have seen a group of six or seven [TS]

00:13:30 ◼   ► fully grown adult men rocking that look [TS]

00:13:34 ◼   ► traveling together as a tribe a clutch [TS]

00:13:37 ◼   ► of dwarves like that i cannot clutch i [TS]

00:13:39 ◼   ► guess but a handful of dwarves [TS]

00:13:41 ◼   ► yeah but would you call a group of of [TS]

00:13:43 ◼   ► fighting dwarves a teacup no no a [TS]

00:13:49 ◼   ► tempest I'm frustrated whoops yeah I [TS]

00:13:52 ◼   ► have to think about it but I either so [TS]

00:13:54 ◼   ► much to like about this this is [TS]

00:13:56 ◼   ► something that this is something else [TS]

00:13:57 ◼   ► get this way more thought the night then [TS]

00:13:58 ◼   ► I realized well you know it's a bit [TS]

00:14:00 ◼   ► it's a 15-minute drive in i mean there's [TS]

00:14:02 ◼   ► a lot of time to think so but then it [TS]

00:14:04 ◼   ► occurred to me if I'm writing a [TS]

00:14:05 ◼   ► screenplay right I wanted to be [TS]

00:14:07 ◼   ► realistic and so I would what we would [TS]

00:14:09 ◼   ► have to do is we would have to establish [TS]

00:14:10 ◼   ► a set of rules for combat and then [TS]

00:14:13 ◼   ► imagine through the course of the [TS]

00:14:16 ◼   ► history of this neighborhood stick [TS]

00:14:19 ◼   ► fighting culture where different groups [TS]

00:14:22 ◼   ► had hacked the rules and corollary rules [TS]

00:14:27 ◼   ► had been imposed to accommodate you know [TS]

00:14:30 ◼   ► or 22 like Raina min and so you know you [TS]

00:14:33 ◼   ► want you want the rules of combat to not [TS]

00:14:35 ◼   ► be to not be too arcane but they also [TS]

00:14:38 ◼   ► have to reflect you know they have to [TS]

00:14:42 ◼   ► kind of reflect the evolution of the [TS]

00:14:44 ◼   ► game right something specifically about [TS]

00:14:46 ◼   ► baseball and how the game has changed [TS]

00:14:48 ◼   ► over time as they change the ball there [TS]

00:14:50 ◼   ► was a time when I guess it was probably [TS]

00:14:51 ◼   ► going to do a spitball and they said you [TS]

00:14:53 ◼   ► know what you know I'll do that anymore [TS]

00:14:54 ◼   ► that's not that that's not fair [TS]

00:14:56 ◼   ► that's right can't do that what do you [TS]

00:14:57 ◼   ► have to level it or you know you change [TS]

00:14:58 ◼   ► like you know the higher the goalposts [TS]

00:15:00 ◼   ► you standardize things for neighborhood [TS]

00:15:01 ◼   ► stick fight to really catch on to become [TS]

00:15:03 ◼   ► viral if you like it has to be some [TS]

00:15:05 ◼   ► consistency between the different [TS]

00:15:06 ◼   ► neighborhoods right i mean when they [TS]

00:15:07 ◼   ► change the height of the goalposts and [TS]

00:15:09 ◼   ► baseball that really altered the way the [TS]

00:15:10 ◼   ► game was hard to get a hat-trick so I [TS]

00:15:13 ◼   ► feel like I feel like that's something [TS]

00:15:15 ◼   ► that you know I would i think i would [TS]

00:15:17 ◼   ► call Neal Stephenson or something and [TS]

00:15:19 ◼   ► say like how would you imagine could you [TS]

00:15:22 ◼   ► imagine could you imagine ate the [TS]

00:15:25 ◼   ► assuming that neighborhood stick [TS]

00:15:27 ◼   ► fighting was something that we were 80 [TS]

00:15:29 ◼   ► years into right we've been we've been [TS]

00:15:31 ◼   ► doing this for a while I guess the [TS]

00:15:33 ◼   ► world-building yeah that's right in the [TS]

00:15:35 ◼   ► web and the stick fighting had been [TS]

00:15:36 ◼   ► happening in the early days were scrappy [TS]

00:15:38 ◼   ► and there were some people some fans [TS]

00:15:40 ◼   ► that were like it's not like it used to [TS]

00:15:42 ◼   ► be boy stick fighting you [TS]

00:15:43 ◼   ► to be really awesome before they put in [TS]

00:15:46 ◼   ► you know the onside fly rule or whatever [TS]

00:15:49 ◼   ► but now you know it become more and more [TS]

00:15:51 ◼   ► professionalized I keep imagining [TS]

00:15:52 ◼   ► backstage at the neighborhood stick [TS]

00:15:56 ◼   ► fight championship where all the [TS]

00:15:57 ◼   ► different groups you know there's the [TS]

00:15:59 ◼   ► there's the monks semester it's really [TS]

00:16:02 ◼   ► like the one that's when I look at that [TS]

00:16:04 ◼   ► link i sent you haha I'm just rewriting [TS]

00:16:06 ◼   ► the yeah check out that link it is a [TS]

00:16:08 ◼   ► page dedicated to all of the gangs of [TS]

00:16:11 ◼   ► the Warriors oh my god so I'm so happy [TS]

00:16:14 ◼   ► already the electric eliminators you got [TS]

00:16:16 ◼   ► the gladiators I think you might be [TS]

00:16:17 ◼   ► thinking of poppers they were purple [TS]

00:16:20 ◼   ► hats and that's what's that's right the [TS]

00:16:22 ◼   ► barbers that's right that is all furious [TS]

00:16:23 ◼   ► and what I always forget it forget about [TS]

00:16:25 ◼   ► the hi-hats all the hi-hat come on their [TS]

00:16:28 ◼   ► minds they're so good they're so good [TS]

00:16:32 ◼   ► watching them go through the turnstile [TS]

00:16:34 ◼   ► watching the hi-hats go through the [TS]

00:16:35 ◼   ► turnstile and then the yeah the baseball [TS]

00:16:38 ◼   ► furies inhabit hons that the 17 hundred [TS]

00:16:41 ◼   ► from chinatown em so let me let me ask [TS]

00:16:45 ◼   ► you this though [TS]

00:16:46 ◼   ► so for instance taser let's say you take [TS]

00:16:50 ◼   ► a Taser in taser doesn't kill people at [TS]

00:16:53 ◼   ► a distance really it doesn't hurt him at [TS]

00:16:55 ◼   ► a distance that's one of the things like [TS]

00:16:57 ◼   ► I don't want I don't want I don't want [TS]

00:16:58 ◼   ► weapons that allow you to 2 is no [TS]

00:17:01 ◼   ► there's no room for snipers and [TS]

00:17:02 ◼   ► neighborhood stick fights that's right [TS]

00:17:03 ◼   ► but a Taser could you could you get away [TS]

00:17:05 ◼   ► with a kind of a modified taser I'm know [TS]

00:17:07 ◼   ► Neal Stephenson but I i think when you [TS]

00:17:09 ◼   ► think I think it's got to be I think we [TS]

00:17:11 ◼   ► can some ways use baseball as a template [TS]

00:17:14 ◼   ► because baseball started out as being [TS]

00:17:15 ◼   ► this thing where all the fields are [TS]

00:17:16 ◼   ► different and I guess they're still kind [TS]

00:17:18 ◼   ► of different but I mean you know the [TS]

00:17:19 ◼   ► difference distance between the bases [TS]

00:17:20 ◼   ► and stuff could be really random and [TS]

00:17:22 ◼   ► there's two major areas to focus on [TS]

00:17:24 ◼   ► which are the logistics materials and [TS]

00:17:28 ◼   ► construction of the sticks and then how [TS]

00:17:31 ◼   ► you're allowed to attack so like in [TS]

00:17:33 ◼   ► soccer if you something decided to start [TS]

00:17:34 ◼   ► grabbing the ball and run around that's [TS]

00:17:35 ◼   ► a dickhead put down the ball that's not [TS]

00:17:37 ◼   ► cool right so what I mean I think we do [TS]

00:17:39 ◼   ► have to start with the stick i'm [TS]

00:17:40 ◼   ► thinking you have things like material [TS]

00:17:42 ◼   ► weight length and circumference is a [TS]

00:17:44 ◼   ► uniform length can be tapered my [TS]

00:17:47 ◼   ► medicine have to be found stick can you [TS]

00:17:48 ◼   ► lay their own thing is you can't sharpen [TS]

00:17:50 ◼   ► them because then it's a spear kind of [TS]

00:17:54 ◼   ► you know like so there's gotta be [TS]

00:17:56 ◼   ► and I guess ultimately like you can kill [TS]

00:17:58 ◼   ► somebody with a stick pretty easily so i [TS]

00:18:01 ◼   ► do feel i feel like for this [TS]

00:18:03 ◼   ► science-fiction story to really to [TS]

00:18:07 ◼   ► really capture what I'm what I'm trying [TS]

00:18:10 ◼   ► to say about humanity i think it does [TS]

00:18:12 ◼   ► have to be fatal and at times [TS]

00:18:14 ◼   ► oh sure i don't think it always has to [TS]

00:18:16 ◼   ► be there in my head I'm imagining and I [TS]

00:18:18 ◼   ► know this will change once Stephenson is [TS]

00:18:20 ◼   ► it a little bit but i think it's a bunch [TS]

00:18:21 ◼   ► of people on the field with essentially [TS]

00:18:23 ◼   ► like broomsticks so you can use it like [TS]

00:18:25 ◼   ► a staff you can use it like a sword or [TS]

00:18:28 ◼   ► you can use it like a casual day or all [TS]

00:18:30 ◼   ► of those things you never liked you can [TS]

00:18:32 ◼   ► send it there's no ammunition not to [TS]

00:18:33 ◼   ► spin that's right no you absolutely [TS]

00:18:34 ◼   ► spend you could even throw but you're [TS]

00:18:36 ◼   ► gonna been mean you know what they say [TS]

00:18:38 ◼   ► about neighborhood stick fights when you [TS]

00:18:40 ◼   ► know you throw your stick and then you [TS]

00:18:42 ◼   ► gotta stick that's right then that your [TS]

00:18:44 ◼   ► that sticks going to get stick stuck [TS]

00:18:45 ◼   ► right up yeah that's one of the that's [TS]

00:18:48 ◼   ► what that's one of us there you know [TS]

00:18:50 ◼   ► because they're going to be [TS]

00:18:51 ◼   ► sportscasters and they're gonna have [TS]

00:18:52 ◼   ► their own sayings one stick for the team [TS]

00:18:55 ◼   ► or does everybody have a stick [TS]

00:18:57 ◼   ► well or there's a hunger game situation [TS]

00:18:59 ◼   ► where they're kind of stick some cuddles [TS]

00:19:00 ◼   ► and chalets and stuff all like it might [TS]

00:19:03 ◼   ► be when you actually pitched this idea I [TS]

00:19:05 ◼   ► imagined it the way it would have [TS]

00:19:06 ◼   ► happened when your kids which is you're [TS]

00:19:08 ◼   ► out in the woods and you find a stick [TS]

00:19:10 ◼   ► and then you start hitting people with [TS]

00:19:11 ◼   ► it [TS]

00:19:12 ◼   ► thank you that's right there's something [TS]

00:19:13 ◼   ► there's something to that but I think [TS]

00:19:15 ◼   ► when what you professionalize this and I [TS]

00:19:16 ◼   ► assume it will have some aspect of if [TS]

00:19:18 ◼   ► not even maybe it'll be more like a like [TS]

00:19:21 ◼   ► a football thing where nobody gets paid [TS]

00:19:22 ◼   ► but you get for education and but you [TS]

00:19:25 ◼   ► can have a you have a sticker bespoke [TS]

00:19:27 ◼   ► stick that you make as long as it's [TS]

00:19:29 ◼   ► within the good like a baseball bat [TS]

00:19:30 ◼   ► right you can have your old i was called [TS]

00:19:32 ◼   ► golden boy that's because you never you [TS]

00:19:34 ◼   ► never golden boy who you and your dad [TS]

00:19:36 ◼   ► can craft it out of the out of a tree [TS]

00:19:37 ◼   ► that was hit by lightning like Brian a [TS]

00:19:39 ◼   ► you can rewind your own pickups or or [TS]

00:19:42 ◼   ► out of your out of your the mantelpiece [TS]

00:19:45 ◼   ► of your childhood fireplace oh it was [TS]

00:19:47 ◼   ► burned down by two are so now you got a [TS]

00:19:49 ◼   ► reason so here's a question so [TS]

00:19:51 ◼   ► originally the idea was that it was kind [TS]

00:19:54 ◼   ► of a gladiator contest where it was [TS]

00:19:56 ◼   ► taking place in a in a Coliseum and [TS]

00:19:59 ◼   ► people you know the the the bread and [TS]

00:20:01 ◼   ► circuses people were up in the stands [TS]

00:20:03 ◼   ► kind of you know hurling encouragement [TS]

00:20:06 ◼   ► and epithets down [TS]

00:20:08 ◼   ► but then as as the game involved in my [TS]

00:20:11 ◼   ► mind I realized that that so [TS]

00:20:14 ◼   ► surveillance culture has to play into [TS]

00:20:17 ◼   ► any kind of future games sports right [TS]

00:20:22 ◼   ► we're seeing surveillance culture GoPros [TS]

00:20:24 ◼   ► Oh engine eyes the the the like [TS]

00:20:31 ◼   ► experience of sports and ever since [TS]

00:20:34 ◼   ► football got those strange cameras that [TS]

00:20:37 ◼   ► track the action overhead you know [TS]

00:20:40 ◼   ► watching football is very different now [TS]

00:20:41 ◼   ► than even a few years ago and it won't [TS]

00:20:43 ◼   ► be long i don't think before there are [TS]

00:20:46 ◼   ► cameras embedded on football players so [TS]

00:20:49 ◼   ► that you're really was having super [TS]

00:20:52 ◼   ► slo-mo GoPro action but with that [TS]

00:20:55 ◼   ► enables us to do is have a sort of [TS]

00:20:58 ◼   ► stadium but you know you know where [TS]

00:21:03 ◼   ► special forces and and like SWAT teams [TS]

00:21:05 ◼   ► train they have those fake cities [TS]

00:21:08 ◼   ► oh yeah a little villages out in the [TS]

00:21:10 ◼   ► country where it's a bunch of cinder [TS]

00:21:11 ◼   ► block buildings and may and they [TS]

00:21:13 ◼   ► practice like going into buildings and [TS]

00:21:14 ◼   ► it's kind of like a like like paintball [TS]

00:21:17 ◼   ► or laser tag sure like we're a little i [TS]

00:21:19 ◼   ► like I wouldn't thing pops out the [TS]

00:21:21 ◼   ► building and you gotta shoot the burger [TS]

00:21:22 ◼   ► but not the baby [TS]

00:21:23 ◼   ► yes thank you exactly shoot the burglar [TS]

00:21:26 ◼   ► not the baby that's if I were [TS]

00:21:28 ◼   ► sportscasting this that would be one of [TS]

00:21:29 ◼   ► my adages when your catchphrases right [TS]

00:21:32 ◼   ► somebody would whack like will actually [TS]

00:21:34 ◼   ► walk their friend and I be like that [TS]

00:21:35 ◼   ► they're yo Marlon there is another god [TS]

00:21:37 ◼   ► why saying over and over shoot the [TS]

00:21:39 ◼   ► burglar about the baby right then that [TS]

00:21:42 ◼   ► the t-shirts will get made [TS]

00:21:44 ◼   ► yep people would know me as that guy but [TS]

00:21:46 ◼   ► it's on the one hand it's a very very [TS]

00:21:48 ◼   ► primitive in many ways it's civilized in [TS]

00:21:51 ◼   ► the sense that there are rules but [TS]

00:21:53 ◼   ► there's also a high-tech component and [TS]

00:21:55 ◼   ► that's that's where you really get [TS]

00:21:56 ◼   ► people excited about it but I [TS]

00:21:57 ◼   ► participants and as as viewers so we [TS]

00:22:00 ◼   ► could build in the center of the stadium [TS]

00:22:01 ◼   ► a kind of Cinderella's castle meet SWAT [TS]

00:22:06 ◼   ► team training ground a big you know [TS]

00:22:09 ◼   ► multi-layered set of buildings and laser [TS]

00:22:12 ◼   ► tag you know ramps and all this stuff [TS]

00:22:14 ◼   ► with gopro cameras all around it and [TS]

00:22:16 ◼   ► then the tech aspect of it of course is [TS]

00:22:18 ◼   ► that you're watching [TS]

00:22:20 ◼   ► you're watching on multiple screens [TS]

00:22:22 ◼   ► you're watching replays and and you can [TS]

00:22:25 ◼   ► see you can see you can see more than [TS]

00:22:29 ◼   ► the players can see okay and maybe I [TS]

00:22:32 ◼   ► don't know exactly how this works with [TS]

00:22:33 ◼   ► you figure there's what people on the [TS]

00:22:35 ◼   ► field know and what their teams know [TS]

00:22:36 ◼   ► when they've got their own surveillance [TS]

00:22:38 ◼   ► means you get with the people in the [TS]

00:22:39 ◼   ► crowd now and then you got with the [TS]

00:22:40 ◼   ► viewers at home now and that information [TS]

00:22:42 ◼   ► could potentially become passed around [TS]

00:22:43 ◼   ► maybe there's a cache of sticks you know [TS]

00:22:46 ◼   ► hidden somewhere inside Cinderella's [TS]

00:22:48 ◼   ► castle or maybe the old lady could like [TS]

00:22:51 ◼   ► in our games maybe she could buy you a [TS]

00:22:53 ◼   ► nice fleece and have a melty as a [TS]

00:22:54 ◼   ► sponsorship yeah sure and and there's a [TS]

00:22:57 ◼   ► you know there's that kind of like oh [TS]

00:22:58 ◼   ► you know like a like horror movie aspect [TS]

00:23:01 ◼   ► where it's like don't go in their own [TS]

00:23:03 ◼   ► don't go in there like people are you [TS]

00:23:06 ◼   ► know really that they are participating [TS]

00:23:09 ◼   ► you know people in the stadium having a [TS]

00:23:11 ◼   ► different experience of course the [TS]

00:23:12 ◼   ► people at home but there's a there's [TS]

00:23:14 ◼   ► that that a the tension of of of having [TS]

00:23:19 ◼   ► our missions [TS]

00:23:20 ◼   ► oh yeah and also i mean i don't like to [TS]

00:23:22 ◼   ► bring into pro wrestling too much [TS]

00:23:23 ◼   ► because I know go on about it but to me [TS]

00:23:25 ◼   ► thats that's a big component of this [TS]

00:23:26 ◼   ► where thinks you never know what's gonna [TS]

00:23:28 ◼   ► happen there might be another [TS]

00:23:30 ◼   ► neighborhood stick fight team inside the [TS]

00:23:31 ◼   ► castle and you just don't know it yet or [TS]

00:23:33 ◼   ► maybe somebody from your neighborhood is [TS]

00:23:35 ◼   ► in the audience they jump in [TS]

00:23:37 ◼   ► they grab a stick and start helping out [TS]

00:23:38 ◼   ► so now once we've established the actual [TS]

00:23:41 ◼   ► you know like the combat who now the [TS]

00:23:43 ◼   ► next part of this world building that we [TS]

00:23:45 ◼   ► have to do is how exactly are our social [TS]

00:23:51 ◼   ► problems how are we feeding this stick [TS]

00:23:56 ◼   ► fighting like socially globally what are [TS]

00:24:01 ◼   ► we [TS]

00:24:01 ◼   ► resolving their ok you know like for [TS]

00:24:04 ◼   ► example me I'm not saying I'm just [TS]

00:24:06 ◼   ► tossing out like is it cause based well [TS]

00:24:09 ◼   ► I mean if you're if you are if you are [TS]

00:24:12 ◼   ► from Brazil and your team wins the world [TS]

00:24:14 ◼   ► cup you have a lot of smack to talk to [TS]

00:24:20 ◼   ► people from Uruguay for for a while [TS]

00:24:23 ◼   ► right [TS]

00:24:23 ◼   ► a nice i said i drive around seattle all [TS]

00:24:26 ◼   ► uh [TS]

00:24:27 ◼   ► every day let's be honest and the number [TS]

00:24:30 ◼   ► of people who are still crowing about [TS]

00:24:32 ◼   ► the superbowl two years ago in the form [TS]

00:24:34 ◼   ► of some kind of logo on the back of [TS]

00:24:38 ◼   ► their escalade yeah right sorry but it's [TS]

00:24:42 ◼   ► always nice to Paraguay little bit of [TS]

00:24:44 ◼   ► shade you know what Paraguay has got a [TS]

00:24:46 ◼   ► lot to answer for who [TS]

00:24:48 ◼   ► but so what I'm saying is escalating [TS]

00:24:50 ◼   ► that or or rather turning them turning [TS]

00:24:52 ◼   ► the dial up on that a little bit so that [TS]

00:24:55 ◼   ► it's not just bragging rights it's not [TS]

00:24:57 ◼   ► just like in-your-face paraguay like [TS]

00:25:01 ◼   ► actual disputes are resolved by by the [TS]

00:25:07 ◼   ► neighborhood stick fighting teams [TS]

00:25:08 ◼   ► because i feel like as you ramp up the [TS]

00:25:10 ◼   ► violence [TS]

00:25:12 ◼   ► you also have to have a corresponding [TS]

00:25:13 ◼   ► increase in mistakes not just the stakes [TS]

00:25:18 ◼   ► for the team right those guys are going [TS]

00:25:20 ◼   ► to get more hurt then big you know like [TS]

00:25:24 ◼   ► voluntary are volunteering to get more [TS]

00:25:26 ◼   ► hurt than in a football game but they do [TS]

00:25:30 ◼   ► that because the pot the prospect is [TS]

00:25:33 ◼   ► greater that their success will change [TS]

00:25:36 ◼   ► people's lives also could be tied to [TS]

00:25:40 ◼   ► something like the passage of a [TS]

00:25:41 ◼   ► insurance bill right that would be sort [TS]

00:25:44 ◼   ► of a regional becomes kind of referendum [TS]

00:25:46 ◼   ► like in California like if you don't [TS]

00:25:48 ◼   ► like the way ppl park you can go and [TS]

00:25:49 ◼   ► start your own initiative get people to [TS]

00:25:51 ◼   ► sign out right now and get people to [TS]

00:25:53 ◼   ► sign on it gets on the ballot you can [TS]

00:25:55 ◼   ► vote [TS]

00:25:55 ◼   ► maybe this becomes a kind of public [TS]

00:25:57 ◼   ► primary for certain kinds of big ideas [TS]

00:25:59 ◼   ► precisely so people are like you know [TS]

00:26:00 ◼   ► what I don't like rail transit in I [TS]

00:26:04 ◼   ► think it's a bad idea i think it's too [TS]

00:26:06 ◼   ► expensive than the other people are like [TS]

00:26:08 ◼   ► rail transit is the only solution to [TS]

00:26:10 ◼   ► modern urban expansion in cities i think [TS]

00:26:14 ◼   ► if you take it even smaller I mean even [TS]

00:26:16 ◼   ► even on your local high school football [TS]

00:26:17 ◼   ► field you could work out whether or not [TS]

00:26:19 ◼   ► there should be a stop sign somewhere [TS]

00:26:21 ◼   ► who I mean kind of right on the football [TS]

00:26:25 ◼   ► field [TS]

00:26:26 ◼   ► well I mean I to stop someone be there [TS]

00:26:27 ◼   ► by me like if you're looking I know [TS]

00:26:28 ◼   ► you're not across the board a giant fan [TS]

00:26:30 ◼   ► of four-way stops oh no I don't like [TS]

00:26:32 ◼   ► them so i can guess which side you [TS]

00:26:33 ◼   ► beyond that's right oh so you're saying [TS]

00:26:35 ◼   ► like let's you know let's mount some [TS]

00:26:37 ◼   ► teams [TS]

00:26:38 ◼   ► yeah you've got to stop stoppers so then [TS]

00:26:40 ◼   ► this is the [TS]

00:26:40 ◼   ► this is how the league's workout right [TS]

00:26:42 ◼   ► you start down at the at really the [TS]

00:26:44 ◼   ► neighborhood level where it's like I i [TS]

00:26:46 ◼   ► think that we need to spend the that you [TS]

00:26:50 ◼   ► know we need to float up to [TS]

00:26:51 ◼   ► million-dollar bond to paint all the [TS]

00:26:54 ◼   ► fire hydrants in the port a bright color [TS]

00:26:57 ◼   ► so they don't get back over and your [TS]

00:27:00 ◼   ► opposition is like that is the ludicrous [TS]

00:27:02 ◼   ► way to spend that money it's like stick [TS]

00:27:04 ◼   ► fight yet be any pushback from big truck [TS]

00:27:06 ◼   ► and then it work you work your way up [TS]

00:27:08 ◼   ► the you work your way up the ranks so [TS]

00:27:10 ◼   ► then your then you're basically on the [TS]

00:27:11 ◼   ► county stick fighting team and your your [TS]

00:27:13 ◼   ► adjudicating like the school board [TS]

00:27:15 ◼   ► budget and then just imagine how much [TS]

00:27:19 ◼   ► zoning stuff you get settled that way [TS]

00:27:20 ◼   ► rights and net but then all the way up [TS]

00:27:22 ◼   ► to like I'm on the Palestinian team and [TS]

00:27:26 ◼   ► we are deciding with this match whether [TS]

00:27:30 ◼   ► or not they're going to be any more [TS]

00:27:31 ◼   ► subtle I get everything on this tank [TS]

00:27:34 ◼   ► that's right and it's like everybody [TS]

00:27:37 ◼   ► agrees this is an intractable problem [TS]

00:27:39 ◼   ► we've been trying to solve it with [TS]

00:27:41 ◼   ► diplomacy we've been trying to solve [TS]

00:27:42 ◼   ► with war we've been trying to solve it [TS]

00:27:44 ◼   ► with you know terrorism and it we have [TS]

00:27:48 ◼   ► failed to solve it so does everybody [TS]

00:27:50 ◼   ► agree stick fighting is stick fighting [TS]

00:27:52 ◼   ► is the way that we solve all these other [TS]

00:27:54 ◼   ► problems now it's like when subtlety and [TS]

00:27:56 ◼   ► civility and adult conversation fails [TS]

00:27:59 ◼   ► maybe it's time to pick up a stick maybe [TS]

00:28:00 ◼   ► it's time thank you to pick up a stick [TS]

00:28:02 ◼   ► and see that's another great catch [TS]

00:28:04 ◼   ► phrase and I feel like that maybe is a [TS]

00:28:05 ◼   ► league that at some point that was the [TS]

00:28:08 ◼   ► phrase for the league got the stick [TS]

00:28:10 ◼   ► yeah you know what at a certain point [TS]

00:28:12 ◼   ► you gotta pick up the stick huh [TS]

00:28:14 ◼   ► so but this is a lot of world-building [TS]

00:28:17 ◼   ► in order to then distill it down temp to [TS]

00:28:21 ◼   ► you know to write a script for a [TS]

00:28:23 ◼   ► romantic comedy publisher is our [TS]

00:28:25 ◼   ► meet-cute maybe people on different [TS]

00:28:27 ◼   ► sides of the stick fight me course at [TS]

00:28:29 ◼   ► the core of the movie there's got to be [TS]

00:28:30 ◼   ► this changes everything I don't know is [TS]

00:28:32 ◼   ► a rom-com this is this that's terrific [TS]

00:28:34 ◼   ► well what other kind of movie is there [TS]

00:28:35 ◼   ► right i don't want to the problem with [TS]

00:28:37 ◼   ► hunger games is there's it's so [TS]

00:28:39 ◼   ► hysterical and yet there's a rom-com at [TS]

00:28:42 ◼   ► the center of it right i mean [TS]

00:28:43 ◼   ► everybody's just like oh that's so weepy [TS]

00:28:46 ◼   ► and I think that's a tenant of of young [TS]

00:28:49 ◼   ► adult fiction maybe you're thinking more [TS]

00:28:51 ◼   ► like old adult fiction [TS]

00:28:53 ◼   ► I mean when you and I were uh one when [TS]

00:28:55 ◼   ► we were young adults was that was our [TS]

00:28:57 ◼   ► young adult fiction that weepy i don't [TS]

00:29:00 ◼   ► know i think it's got a lot more energy [TS]

00:29:02 ◼   ► over time you got a lot more vampires [TS]

00:29:04 ◼   ► and implicit intercourse [TS]

00:29:05 ◼   ► hmm there's no refresher course on the [TS]

00:29:08 ◼   ► stick field although I have to say the [TS]

00:29:10 ◼   ► original Red Dawn film em and I'm sorry [TS]

00:29:13 ◼   ► that I even had to appellate isn't that [TS]

00:29:15 ◼   ► a shame the original but you know that [TS]

00:29:19 ◼   ► there was that was pretty histrionic [TS]

00:29:21 ◼   ► there was a lot of like there are there [TS]

00:29:24 ◼   ► a lot of young men over emoting in that [TS]

00:29:27 ◼   ► movie I see if so many directions you [TS]

00:29:29 ◼   ► can go and i know you're pretty busy [TS]

00:29:30 ◼   ► right now but I mean you know I'll i [TS]

00:29:32 ◼   ► think it helps also think in terms of [TS]

00:29:33 ◼   ► the franchise right like they knew there [TS]

00:29:36 ◼   ► was gonna be a whole bunch of this [TS]

00:29:37 ◼   ► entire game films you know they [TS]

00:29:39 ◼   ► discovered in time they want to make [TS]

00:29:40 ◼   ► more star wars movies if you're going to [TS]

00:29:42 ◼   ► build a world then you you get to decide [TS]

00:29:44 ◼   ► how that story is told so maybe the [TS]

00:29:46 ◼   ► first one the one that really get some [TS]

00:29:48 ◼   ► of the Avengers of stick fighting is [TS]

00:29:50 ◼   ► like there's just the one big movie with [TS]

00:29:52 ◼   ► lots of big fights and stuff like that [TS]

00:29:53 ◼   ► but you could also have stuff like then [TS]

00:29:55 ◼   ► go to a prequel that explains the [TS]

00:29:58 ◼   ► genesis of stick fighting and but from [TS]

00:29:59 ◼   ► the sprint from this primitive simple [TS]

00:30:01 ◼   ► days before GoPros right i see so I see [TS]

00:30:03 ◼   ► so we start somewhere [TS]

00:30:05 ◼   ► Waverly Graham and John you gotta grab [TS]

00:30:07 ◼   ► an early on with the dwarves and the [TS]

00:30:08 ◼   ► hi-hats and all the other yea big [TS]

00:30:10 ◼   ► characters in the stick fights yeah the [TS]

00:30:11 ◼   ► yo-yos the xylophones the stevedores [TS]

00:30:14 ◼   ► they're only have to get that got the [TS]

00:30:15 ◼   ► ding-a-lings you got the backups [TS]

00:30:17 ◼   ► shanghai Sultan's that's right that's [TS]

00:30:19 ◼   ► right and and so those guys are all we [TS]

00:30:22 ◼   ► like we fade in on the scenes yeah the [TS]

00:30:27 ◼   ► interview with the way i originally [TS]

00:30:28 ◼   ► imagined this was that that [TS]

00:30:30 ◼   ► yeah I think I was backstage at madison [TS]

00:30:32 ◼   ► square garden or something i'm walking [TS]

00:30:33 ◼   ► around there's all these different [TS]

00:30:34 ◼   ► tribes of people wandering around [TS]

00:30:36 ◼   ► backstage in this cavernous environment [TS]

00:30:39 ◼   ► and i kinda just started to see them my [TS]

00:30:42 ◼   ► eyes kind of unfocused and I was like [TS]

00:30:44 ◼   ► you know what if that group of people [TS]

00:30:46 ◼   ► and I think we talked about this in the [TS]

00:30:48 ◼   ► original stick fighting episode where it [TS]

00:30:49 ◼   ► was like the night that that girl that I [TS]

00:30:51 ◼   ► met with the nike swoosh tattoo [TS]

00:30:53 ◼   ► alright [TS]

00:30:54 ◼   ► I was like the Nike that curl is [TS]

00:30:56 ◼   ► branding herself for the rest of her [TS]

00:30:58 ◼   ► life with a nike and and so I was but I [TS]

00:31:03 ◼   ► was watching these people walk by and I [TS]

00:31:04 ◼   ► was like now what if every one of those [TS]

00:31:06 ◼   ► people walking past was wearing a kind [TS]

00:31:11 ◼   ► of a tunic that that Kennedy was a was a [TS]

00:31:20 ◼   ► call out to the Crusades right like here [TS]

00:31:23 ◼   ► come here come the Christians they've [TS]

00:31:24 ◼   ► all got a ball got a big cross on their [TS]

00:31:27 ◼   ► chest and then here you know here are [TS]

00:31:29 ◼   ► the only this big dressing gowns like a [TS]

00:31:31 ◼   ► big dressing gown with my with it like [TS]

00:31:33 ◼   ► it with your emblem on it and so like I [TS]

00:31:36 ◼   ► said instead of instead of a a lion [TS]

00:31:39 ◼   ► rampant you you got you got you got a [TS]

00:31:41 ◼   ► tide logo [TS]

00:31:42 ◼   ► yeah and exactly but but in the future [TS]

00:31:45 ◼   ► right like like Islam is a killer brand [TS]

00:31:50 ◼   ► but show but so is coca-cola slightly [TS]

00:31:55 ◼   ► different kind of killer and so what if [TS]

00:31:57 ◼   ► that would have team Islam is pitted [TS]

00:32:00 ◼   ► against team coca-cola in the regional [TS]

00:32:01 ◼   ► finals I don't think there's any reason [TS]

00:32:02 ◼   ► that can't happen i think as you advance [TS]

00:32:04 ◼   ► to advance to higher levels you know i [TS]

00:32:06 ◼   ► think you're going to see some really [TS]

00:32:07 ◼   ► unusual pairings exactly i see like [TS]

00:32:09 ◼   ► Portland hog butchers vs former [TS]

00:32:13 ◼   ► congressman mhm [TS]

00:32:14 ◼   ► here come the Nebraska Methodists who [TS]

00:32:17 ◼   ► and they are in a they are in a pitch [TS]

00:32:19 ◼   ► battle with the Chevy Volt right coming [TS]

00:32:23 ◼   ► off a huge huge win against the the [TS]

00:32:25 ◼   ► ladies trying to use expired coupons of [TS]

00:32:26 ◼   ► walgreens precisely so I would not want [TS]

00:32:29 ◼   ► to face those ladies they are you know [TS]

00:32:30 ◼   ► what their top they do not stay down [TS]

00:32:33 ◼   ► well I murder should they're absolutely [TS]

00:32:35 ◼   ► should be some kind of I mean this is [TS]

00:32:37 ◼   ► the thing how do you handicapped because [TS]

00:32:40 ◼   ► you don't want to put the cue the coupon [TS]

00:32:42 ◼   ► ladies up against like the modern war we [TS]

00:32:46 ◼   ► do this by i would i would love to see [TS]

00:32:48 ◼   ► that but what you do in boxing right you [TS]

00:32:50 ◼   ► do it by in that case by weight [TS]

00:32:51 ◼   ► yeah I guess it's my way and then you [TS]

00:32:53 ◼   ► but you still figure out like who is the [TS]

00:32:54 ◼   ► greatest pound-for-pound stick fight [TS]

00:32:56 ◼   ► team right [TS]

00:32:58 ◼   ► ok here's my question and I I really [TS]

00:33:00 ◼   ► this is so critical to to the to the [TS]

00:33:03 ◼   ► whole narrative but i'm still not [TS]

00:33:04 ◼   ► exactly sure I mean [TS]

00:33:05 ◼   ► I have a good idea of what a stick fight [TS]

00:33:07 ◼   ► is for or how it ends when it was a [TS]

00:33:09 ◼   ► bunch of a 11 year old boys hitting each [TS]

00:33:11 ◼   ► other [TS]

00:33:12 ◼   ► what is the goal or how do you win the [TS]

00:33:15 ◼   ► neighborhood stick fight [TS]

00:33:17 ◼   ► well that's the thing it because because [TS]

00:33:19 ◼   ► we are talking about really worth [TS]

00:33:21 ◼   ► talking about solving really weighty [TS]

00:33:23 ◼   ► disputes the the end has to be this [TS]

00:33:28 ◼   ► there has to be satisfaction right the [TS]

00:33:31 ◼   ► we have to get we the people have to get [TS]

00:33:33 ◼   ► satisfaction if I am pitting if I if I [TS]

00:33:38 ◼   ► am watching nike go up against I mean [TS]

00:33:43 ◼   ► because it's not just nike against [TS]

00:33:45 ◼   ► adidas it's nike against no no that [TS]

00:33:48 ◼   ► that's the kind of narrow thinking that [TS]

00:33:49 ◼   ► neighborhood stick fighting is gonna is [TS]

00:33:50 ◼   ► gonna just get rid of right this is [TS]

00:33:52 ◼   ► mikey against apple or Nike against [TS]

00:33:55 ◼   ► against paraguay and it's like what are [TS]

00:33:59 ◼   ► the stakes right between nike and [TS]

00:34:01 ◼   ► paraguay and if nike wins [TS]

00:34:03 ◼   ► nike tennis shoes beats paraguay the [TS]

00:34:05 ◼   ► country [TS]

00:34:06 ◼   ► what does paraguay after seed to them [TS]

00:34:10 ◼   ► oh yeah kinda like when the two cities [TS]

00:34:12 ◼   ► go up against each other in the mayor's [TS]

00:34:13 ◼   ► have a playful yet about sending oranges [TS]

00:34:16 ◼   ► or or you know philly cheese steak or [TS]

00:34:18 ◼   ► something like that to the other guy [TS]

00:34:19 ◼   ► right so but it has to be you know like [TS]

00:34:22 ◼   ► that but something has to be selling I [TS]

00:34:24 ◼   ► get you're saying this works on two [TS]

00:34:25 ◼   ► levels is what gets settled on the field [TS]

00:34:27 ◼   ► with sticks and was consequently by [TS]

00:34:30 ◼   ► extension being settled by that victory [TS]

00:34:32 ◼   ► that's right and so we the adjudication [TS]

00:34:34 ◼   ► of the stick ball was a stick fight so [TS]

00:34:36 ◼   ► what ends up deciding the match in the [TS]

00:34:40 ◼   ► ring is does this does this result [TS]

00:34:44 ◼   ► deliver satisfaction to the parties [TS]

00:34:48 ◼   ► involved do they feel satisfied so if [TS]

00:34:52 ◼   ► it's a case where it's like whack whack [TS]

00:34:54 ◼   ► ow ok I quit [TS]

00:34:56 ◼   ► it's like wait a minute no a like [TS]

00:35:01 ◼   ► hundreds of miles hundreds of square [TS]

00:35:03 ◼   ► miles of forest just were transferred [TS]

00:35:07 ◼   ► from one organization to another 00 and [TS]

00:35:10 ◼   ► this brings up another interesting point [TS]

00:35:11 ◼   ► then so can you hire out can you be like [TS]

00:35:15 ◼   ► the the Yankees and hire out like the [TS]

00:35:18 ◼   ► best team [TS]

00:35:19 ◼   ► based on money or does it have two [TS]

00:35:21 ◼   ► people people who have a stake in that [TS]

00:35:22 ◼   ► so this is that this is my feeling and [TS]

00:35:25 ◼   ► this is why I call it neighborhood stick [TS]

00:35:27 ◼   ► fights and not professional stick fights [TS]

00:35:29 ◼   ► because my feeling about professional [TS]

00:35:32 ◼   ► sports is as soon as it became free [TS]

00:35:35 ◼   ► agency and sports were disconnected from [TS]

00:35:38 ◼   ► their region right it's all just [TS]

00:35:41 ◼   ► metaphor now you know you just this [TS]

00:35:43 ◼   ► beeping these baseball players just play [TS]

00:35:45 ◼   ► for everybody at the end of their career [TS]

00:35:47 ◼   ► they you know and they show up I mean [TS]

00:35:49 ◼   ► Ichiro shows up at Safeco Field when [TS]

00:35:52 ◼   ► they Yankees uniform if you can use the [TS]

00:35:54 ◼   ► phrase Utah Jazz without laughing Thank [TS]

00:35:57 ◼   ► You a utah jazz I so i do feel like i do [TS]

00:36:01 ◼   ► feel like the point of the stick [TS]

00:36:03 ◼   ► fighting is your group you're vested [TS]

00:36:07 ◼   ► group puts up your best fighters from [TS]

00:36:10 ◼   ► within the group and if you know and the [TS]

00:36:12 ◼   ► put the problem with that of course is [TS]

00:36:14 ◼   ► that there are lots of groups who by [TS]

00:36:17 ◼   ► definition are not going to have as good [TS]

00:36:19 ◼   ► of Fighters right like the like team [TS]

00:36:22 ◼   ► coder is not going to put up its gonna [TS]

00:36:26 ◼   ► probably have a lot of like big guys huh [TS]

00:36:29 ◼   ► but not a lot of like em tough guys I [TS]

00:36:32 ◼   ► get you and so so you have to also be [TS]

00:36:35 ◼   ► able to use the strength of your group [TS]

00:36:37 ◼   ► right like the coupon ladies who all the [TS]

00:36:39 ◼   ► way there they are strong they have to [TS]

00:36:41 ◼   ► end it and they have to be able to work [TS]

00:36:42 ◼   ► as a you know as a group strategy they [TS]

00:36:45 ◼   ► have to use their strategy right to like [TS]

00:36:49 ◼   ► this old so the game would have to be [TS]

00:36:51 ◼   ► modified in the coupon ladies thing the [TS]

00:36:53 ◼   ► point of the game might be that you have [TS]

00:36:55 ◼   ► to get through the checkout and back [TS]

00:36:57 ◼   ► home before the ramen boils over [TS]

00:37:00 ◼   ► mmm using a neighborhood level it could [TS]

00:37:02 ◼   ► be something really lonely too [TS]

00:37:04 ◼   ► on-the-nose it could be something as [TS]

00:37:05 ◼   ► simple as the ladies trying to use [TS]

00:37:07 ◼   ► expired coupons at walgreens vs let's [TS]

00:37:09 ◼   ► let's just say it walgreens employees [TS]

00:37:12 ◼   ► Oh interesting I mean there's just so [TS]

00:37:14 ◼   ► many ways that this world couldn't find [TS]

00:37:16 ◼   ► them here i'm saying this helps me too [TS]

00:37:17 ◼   ► because the thing is if they if they [TS]

00:37:19 ◼   ► really toss and it's a sanction sanction [TS]

00:37:22 ◼   ► neighborhood stick fight and just for [TS]

00:37:24 ◼   ► the sake of argument let's say the [TS]

00:37:25 ◼   ► ladies with the expired coupons win [TS]

00:37:27 ◼   ► right i mean i've really hope that [TS]

00:37:29 ◼   ► doesn't happen but if they win then from [TS]

00:37:31 ◼   ► now on [TS]

00:37:32 ◼   ► and a corporate level walgreens has got [TS]

00:37:34 ◼   ► to take expired coupons [TS]

00:37:36 ◼   ► end of story if you wanna rematch [TS]

00:37:37 ◼   ► there's gotta be some kind of stakes [TS]

00:37:39 ◼   ► where the you know some skin in the game [TS]

00:37:40 ◼   ► but I guess you're saying this goes way [TS]

00:37:42 ◼   ► beyond the field and this I right now i [TS]

00:37:45 ◼   ► would say there are a lot of things [TS]

00:37:47 ◼   ► where I would say listen stick fighting [TS]

00:37:49 ◼   ► is my idea but it's not that I'm not [TS]

00:37:51 ◼   ► actually gonna get down on the field and [TS]

00:37:52 ◼   ► stick fight I mean I'm up in the head [TS]

00:37:54 ◼   ► office [TS]

00:37:55 ◼   ► I'm up there counting the money i'm not [TS]

00:37:57 ◼   ► a stick fighter right I'm an impresario [TS]

00:37:59 ◼   ► your steak lover but if you pitted value [TS]

00:38:05 ◼   ► village management against an ad-hoc [TS]

00:38:10 ◼   ► team of value village customers who are [TS]

00:38:12 ◼   ► tired of filling out there who are tired [TS]

00:38:15 ◼   ► of collecting 20 stamps on their stamp [TS]

00:38:18 ◼   ► card to to get twenty-five percent off [TS]

00:38:22 ◼   ► only to arrive with their filled out [TS]

00:38:24 ◼   ► stamp card and find the promotion is [TS]

00:38:27 ◼   ► over and the and the dates you know that [TS]

00:38:30 ◼   ► it was only good for three weeks and now [TS]

00:38:33 ◼   ► you're now now the time that you took [TS]

00:38:35 ◼   ► and all the effort the carrying the [TS]

00:38:37 ◼   ► stamp card around and pulling it out and [TS]

00:38:39 ◼   ► getting it stamped you got set 20 stamps [TS]

00:38:41 ◼   ► or something and it's like oh we're not [TS]

00:38:43 ◼   ► honoring those anymore [TS]

00:38:44 ◼   ► value village does that every they do [TS]

00:38:46 ◼   ► that 15 times a year they also did your [TS]

00:38:51 ◼   ► switcheroo they do a switcheroo they [TS]

00:38:53 ◼   ► offer they're like hey are you filling [TS]

00:38:54 ◼   ► out our stamp card and you're like no [TS]

00:38:56 ◼   ► thanks we're like really I mean I'm [TS]

00:38:58 ◼   ► gonna put three stamps on it for this [TS]

00:38:59 ◼   ► this purchase they're like okay go ahead [TS]

00:39:01 ◼   ► give me the stamp card and they put [TS]

00:39:02 ◼   ► stamps on it and then for like three [TS]

00:39:04 ◼   ► weeks every time you go into value [TS]

00:39:05 ◼   ► village like I got a stamp card they're [TS]

00:39:07 ◼   ► like great and they stamp it and then [TS]

00:39:09 ◼   ► you finally get to 23 go in the next [TS]

00:39:12 ◼   ► time you're like twenty-five percent off [TS]

00:39:13 ◼   ► and they're like oh we that that [TS]

00:39:15 ◼   ► promotion ended my first on cheese so [TS]

00:39:18 ◼   ► it's not like a coffee cart thing where [TS]

00:39:19 ◼   ► the stamp card you could go into your [TS]

00:39:21 ◼   ► coffee car with a stamp card from four [TS]

00:39:23 ◼   ► years ago and they'll still give you [TS]

00:39:24 ◼   ► that espresso it's some kind of it's [TS]

00:39:28 ◼   ► some kind of bullshit trick and so i [TS]

00:39:30 ◼   ► have written that I don't you talk about [TS]

00:39:31 ◼   ► demanding satisfaction I would be livid [TS]

00:39:34 ◼   ► now if I guess I had to look on the [TS]

00:39:35 ◼   ► google for this this is a value village [TS]

00:39:37 ◼   ► is a thing it'sit's used clothing is [TS]

00:39:40 ◼   ► that right that's right it's through its [TS]

00:39:41 ◼   ► a thrift store but it's a for-profit get [TS]

00:39:43 ◼   ► what you get [TS]

00:39:43 ◼   ► yeah but I noticed on the sciences [TS]

00:39:45 ◼   ► donations [TS]

00:39:45 ◼   ► dinner you can donate this is that what [TS]

00:39:48 ◼   ► so they value village is a is a funny [TS]

00:39:50 ◼   ► business model they do a little [TS]

00:39:52 ◼   ► switcheroo on you [TS]

00:39:53 ◼   ► they do a lot of switches on you but the [TS]

00:39:55 ◼   ► but the big one is like goodwill takes [TS]

00:39:59 ◼   ► your donations and they employ people [TS]

00:40:03 ◼   ► and they have training centers and they [TS]

00:40:06 ◼   ► you know they are a nonprofit [TS]

00:40:08 ◼   ► organization they're kind of a good will [TS]

00:40:11 ◼   ► it seems to me the Goodman goodwill the [TS]

00:40:13 ◼   ► more I learn about goodwill more [TS]

00:40:14 ◼   ► fascinating they seen because they seem [TS]

00:40:16 ◼   ► like a charitable pyramid scheme where [TS]

00:40:18 ◼   ► they want people to come and go oh [TS]

00:40:20 ◼   ► there's a lot of value to be had here [TS]

00:40:21 ◼   ► this is a nice vintage stationary and [TS]

00:40:23 ◼   ► say oh well you know if you're somebody [TS]

00:40:25 ◼   ► who has a disability [TS]

00:40:26 ◼   ► you could also work here so they're [TS]

00:40:28 ◼   ► training people isn't it a little bit [TS]

00:40:30 ◼   ► like not a Ponzi scheme but a little bit [TS]

00:40:31 ◼   ► of a pyramid scheme you you can i come [TS]

00:40:33 ◼   ► in as a customer leaves an assistant [TS]

00:40:34 ◼   ► manager [TS]

00:40:35 ◼   ► it's a and B and beginning helped there [TS]

00:40:37 ◼   ► is so much going on behind the walls at [TS]

00:40:40 ◼   ► a goodwill that I don't understand i met [TS]

00:40:43 ◼   ► a woman the other day who was like [TS]

00:40:45 ◼   ► chairwoman of the Northwest Goodwill's [TS]

00:40:49 ◼   ► and I was like I really love your stores [TS]

00:40:51 ◼   ► and she was appreciative but you could [TS]

00:40:55 ◼   ► see in her eyes that the stores were [TS]

00:40:59 ◼   ► just a small fraction i totally buy that [TS]

00:41:03 ◼   ► I totally by tip tip of the iceberg [TS]

00:41:06 ◼   ► yeah that is what's really going on a [TS]

00:41:08 ◼   ► goodwill is like oh the store you like [TS]

00:41:10 ◼   ► to come into the store is how nice [TS]

00:41:11 ◼   ► that's very nice and that and and then [TS]

00:41:14 ◼   ► there was just that sense where I go I [TS]

00:41:17 ◼   ► suddenly felt like I was talking to [TS]

00:41:18 ◼   ► somebody from skull and bones [TS]

00:41:20 ◼   ► it's like oh I don't know anything about [TS]

00:41:22 ◼   ► goodwill do I and she was like no not [TS]

00:41:24 ◼   ► really but that's great that's wonderful [TS]

00:41:26 ◼   ► keep coming in I was like whoa Jesus [TS]

00:41:30 ◼   ► asked a question about that [TS]

00:41:31 ◼   ► related okay because there's 1 i'm [TS]

00:41:33 ◼   ► always thinking about you get that you [TS]

00:41:35 ◼   ► got you check your mail and there's [TS]

00:41:37 ◼   ► something in your mailbox and there's [TS]

00:41:38 ◼   ► something that vaguely sounds like a [TS]

00:41:40 ◼   ► charitable group for veterans are you [TS]

00:41:42 ◼   ► talking about your email or your mail my [TS]

00:41:45 ◼   ► p-mail we think we go out and get your [TS]

00:41:47 ◼   ► actual postal mail and to be something [TS]

00:41:48 ◼   ► in it like a bag and a plastic wrapper [TS]

00:41:50 ◼   ► imploring you to help someone so if you [TS]

00:41:54 ◼   ► have old clothes or there's going to be [TS]

00:41:56 ◼   ► a big pickup of your old and broken [TS]

00:41:58 ◼   ► electronics [TS]

00:41:59 ◼   ► x and something something is going to [TS]

00:42:01 ◼   ► help veterans for people with [TS]

00:42:02 ◼   ► disabilities now my wife actually does [TS]

00:42:04 ◼   ► this I i don't feel right about I think [TS]

00:42:06 ◼   ► there's something weird going on I don't [TS]

00:42:08 ◼   ► understand how they're making money by [TS]

00:42:09 ◼   ► picking up broken computer monitors do [TS]

00:42:11 ◼   ► you have any idea what these places are [TS]

00:42:13 ◼   ► and how they're making money and how i'm [TS]

00:42:14 ◼   ► pretty sure i'm being scammed [TS]

00:42:16 ◼   ► so what what I have learned I guess is [TS]

00:42:19 ◼   ► that there are secondary and tertiary [TS]

00:42:21 ◼   ► markets for old junk there's a whole [TS]

00:42:28 ◼   ► like sub economy and good will not only [TS]

00:42:33 ◼   ► processes your material and cells in [TS]

00:42:37 ◼   ► their stores but they also now have a [TS]

00:42:40 ◼   ► very lucrative online business where [TS]

00:42:43 ◼   ► they take the cream they used to just [TS]

00:42:45 ◼   ► end up out on the shelves [TS]

00:42:47 ◼   ► yeah and now they sell it online but [TS]

00:42:49 ◼   ► they also sell material that they [TS]

00:42:52 ◼   ► collect to other organizations and and [TS]

00:42:56 ◼   ► now they are collecting material they're [TS]

00:42:58 ◼   ► saying like no item of clothing is to [TS]

00:43:01 ◼   ► shite to donate to Goodwill because they [TS]

00:43:05 ◼   ► can weave it into a bathmat yes right [TS]

00:43:07 ◼   ► they take all the old garbage fabric and [TS]

00:43:11 ◼   ► that goes into some other economy they [TS]

00:43:14 ◼   ► send that somewhere sell it you know [TS]

00:43:17 ◼   ► I've told you anybody who spent much [TS]

00:43:19 ◼   ► time travelling overseas you know you [TS]

00:43:21 ◼   ► come you're walking down a path and here [TS]

00:43:23 ◼   ► comes a little lady from some village [TS]

00:43:25 ◼   ► out in the middle of nowhere and she's [TS]

00:43:28 ◼   ► wearing a Chicago Bulls t-shirt or a no [TS]

00:43:32 ◼   ► or a superbowl t-shirt with an XML cat [TS]

00:43:36 ◼   ► yeah or scary especially with the with [TS]

00:43:38 ◼   ► the name of the team that lost that year [TS]

00:43:41 ◼   ► I'll because they make them and they got [TS]

00:43:43 ◼   ► to go somewhere you gotta get your [TS]

00:43:44 ◼   ► secondary or tertiary markets but value [TS]

00:43:46 ◼   ► village is an actual for-profit company [TS]

00:43:50 ◼   ► that lives in this nonprofit space [TS]

00:43:52 ◼   ► competing against salvation army and [TS]

00:43:55 ◼   ► goodwill which are which are like chair [TS]

00:43:58 ◼   ► nominally charitable organizations [TS]

00:44:00 ◼   ► valley village is just making a profit [TS]

00:44:02 ◼   ► for some people in a in the boardroom I [TS]

00:44:05 ◼   ► couldn't their webpage really makes them [TS]

00:44:07 ◼   ► sound a little like a charity [TS]

00:44:09 ◼   ► yeah but they're not they're just making [TS]

00:44:11 ◼   ► money and so [TS]

00:44:12 ◼   ► all the time people like backup to value [TS]

00:44:14 ◼   ► village and drop off all their stuff and [TS]

00:44:15 ◼   ► feel good about it and i'm not exactly [TS]

00:44:17 ◼   ► sure if you can deduct that or not but [TS]

00:44:21 ◼   ► uh but the value village a culture [TS]

00:44:25 ◼   ► business culture pretty sure it's just [TS]

00:44:28 ◼   ► like it's basically the next level of [TS]

00:44:32 ◼   ► target see putting out an old CRT [TS]

00:44:37 ◼   ► monitor that hasn't worked for years and [TS]

00:44:39 ◼   ► is broken and legitimately trash that's [TS]

00:44:42 ◼   ► actually dangerous to put in a dump [TS]

00:44:44 ◼   ► I don't see any way you make money off [TS]

00:44:46 ◼   ► that unless you put it on a barge and [TS]

00:44:48 ◼   ► send it to China and have people be like [TS]

00:44:50 ◼   ► children tear apart with your fingers I [TS]

00:44:51 ◼   ► understand how you make money from that [TS]

00:44:53 ◼   ► and I think that is exactly what happens [TS]

00:44:54 ◼   ► is copper right i mean there are there [TS]

00:44:56 ◼   ► are there are whole villages their whole [TS]

00:44:58 ◼   ► provinces in China where it they're just [TS]

00:45:01 ◼   ► they're just children that lived there [TS]

00:45:03 ◼   ► there are no adults it's a kind of a [TS]

00:45:06 ◼   ► kind of over the Flies situation they're [TS]

00:45:08 ◼   ► living in a world constructive old CRT [TS]

00:45:11 ◼   ► monitors and you know and there's the [TS]

00:45:14 ◼   ► one kid that has kind of a monocle that [TS]

00:45:17 ◼   ► he flips down in front of his eyes to [TS]

00:45:18 ◼   ► see and check the quality of the [TS]

00:45:20 ◼   ► material quality and there's a kid that [TS]

00:45:21 ◼   ► was a top because it gives a confident [TS]

00:45:24 ◼   ► thumbs up in an odd number and there's a [TS]

00:45:26 ◼   ► bunch of ragamuffins their kind of [TS]

00:45:27 ◼   ► indistinguishable from one another and [TS]

00:45:29 ◼   ► then there's like the heroic girl as [TS]

00:45:32 ◼   ► like Mad Max meets Dickens meets Dickens [TS]

00:45:34 ◼   ► Mad Max meets think that's how well [TS]

00:45:36 ◼   ► that's how pula will picture i see this [TS]

00:45:39 ◼   ► franchise going to add Max meets Dickens [TS]

00:45:42 ◼   ► and then and I'm sure that they are [TS]

00:45:44 ◼   ► yeah they're harvesting the copper and [TS]

00:45:46 ◼   ► and all the you know all the memories [TS]

00:45:48 ◼   ► right that's what they're really harvest [TS]

00:45:50 ◼   ► harvesting operand memory step in [TS]

00:45:54 ◼   ► getting the data out well and the [TS]

00:45:56 ◼   ► memories right i mean you don't know how [TS]

00:45:58 ◼   ► many your memories are stored in there [TS]

00:46:00 ◼   ► this part of it this is part of the [TS]

00:46:02 ◼   ► computer maths that they don't teach a [TS]

00:46:03 ◼   ► man i'm no donating another monitor [TS]

00:46:05 ◼   ► that's what I'm saying have so many [TS]

00:46:07 ◼   ► memories in that monitor well not [TS]

00:46:08 ◼   ► anymore they're all there on China that [TS]

00:46:10 ◼   ► there's some kiddo that it wearing a top [TS]

00:46:12 ◼   ► hat in China that's like sorting through [TS]

00:46:14 ◼   ► them got to pick a pocket or two and [TS]

00:46:17 ◼   ► he's a he's going to employ them in the [TS]

00:46:19 ◼   ► next and the next [TS]

00:46:21 ◼   ► well probably their neighborhood stick [TS]

00:46:22 ◼   ► fights over there already [TS]

00:46:24 ◼   ► there and that's where they started [TS]

00:46:26 ◼   ► right that they started in the in the [TS]

00:46:28 ◼   ► CRT minds [TS]

00:46:29 ◼   ► oh is that right that's the case the [TS]

00:46:31 ◼   ► cradle of stick fights [TS]

00:46:33 ◼   ► yep well spotted there's so much going [TS]

00:46:35 ◼   ► on and understand John I have so many [TS]

00:46:37 ◼   ► questions [TS]

00:46:37 ◼   ► well me too and not particularly when [TS]

00:46:39 ◼   ► supertrain technology starts ramping up [TS]

00:46:41 ◼   ► and all that that hard impact plastic [TS]

00:46:44 ◼   ► that all that stuff is made of can be [TS]

00:46:46 ◼   ► converted back into cooking on you can [TS]

00:46:49 ◼   ► just just just send people in each gram [TS]

00:46:51 ◼   ► and just say congratulations you've been [TS]

00:46:53 ◼   ► acquired your dick ends in china village [TS]

00:46:55 ◼   ► of CRT monitors has been acquired [TS]

00:46:57 ◼   ► oh so I so I feel pretty strongly that [TS]

00:47:05 ◼   ► that all this is happening with you and [TS]

00:47:09 ◼   ► that you know I kind of want to get out [TS]

00:47:11 ◼   ► ahead of it not just for me but for my [TS]

00:47:13 ◼   ► family [TS]

00:47:14 ◼   ► it's everything is getting harder to [TS]

00:47:15 ◼   ► understand you know i mean to go back to [TS]

00:47:18 ◼   ► your example of the thrift store [TS]

00:47:19 ◼   ► i mean i-i don't know if this is true [TS]

00:47:21 ◼   ► but my sense was I think this is [TS]

00:47:23 ◼   ► probably mostly true that when i was [TS]

00:47:25 ◼   ► spending a lot of time in three stores [TS]

00:47:26 ◼   ► in the early to mid eighties I think it [TS]

00:47:28 ◼   ► was probably mostly as simple as this [TS]

00:47:31 ◼   ► people would die and their family would [TS]

00:47:34 ◼   ► collect all their belongings and drop [TS]

00:47:37 ◼   ► them off at Goodwill because what are [TS]

00:47:38 ◼   ► you gonna do with all these old tiny [TS]

00:47:39 ◼   ► shirts somebody maybe laundries them [TS]

00:47:42 ◼   ► maybe and then put some on a hanger two [TS]

00:47:45 ◼   ► dollars shirts or two dollars all the [TS]

00:47:46 ◼   ► shirts two dollars long sleeve shirts [TS]

00:47:47 ◼   ► three dollars whatever but their shirts [TS]

00:47:49 ◼   ► and they're all from problem guessing [TS]

00:47:51 ◼   ► from people in the community [TS]

00:47:52 ◼   ► my sense is it has not been that way in [TS]

00:47:53 ◼   ► years i think this collection centers [TS]

00:47:55 ◼   ► jet that up to somewhere else they pluck [TS]

00:47:57 ◼   ► out some of the stuff here to send the [TS]

00:47:58 ◼   ► kindergarten people in New York this [TS]

00:48:00 ◼   ► other stuff here gets turned into bath [TS]

00:48:02 ◼   ► mats and but it all gets redistributed [TS]

00:48:03 ◼   ► there's a lot of trucking involved in [TS]

00:48:05 ◼   ► the donation business there's a lot of [TS]

00:48:07 ◼   ► trucking and a tremendous amount of [TS]

00:48:09 ◼   ► sordin that I don't fully understand [TS]

00:48:12 ◼   ► like I always imagined we need a monocle [TS]

00:48:13 ◼   ► they're seeing something we don't see ya [TS]

00:48:15 ◼   ► anyway that's why that's a garment or or [TS]

00:48:17 ◼   ► CRT monitor you cannot possibly have [TS]

00:48:21 ◼   ► enough ppl highly-trained that they can [TS]

00:48:28 ◼   ► that mean it has to be like [TS]

00:48:30 ◼   ► it has to be like a sluice box right [TS]

00:48:33 ◼   ► seven different increasingly small [TS]

00:48:36 ◼   ► layers of likely the finest of a screen [TS]

00:48:41 ◼   ► in like mining yeah exactly like here's [TS]

00:48:43 ◼   ► the big screen [TS]

00:48:44 ◼   ► we're just gonna take everything that [TS]

00:48:45 ◼   ► smells like vomit stops here doesn't [TS]

00:48:48 ◼   ► mean it can't be used for something [TS]

00:48:49 ◼   ► that's right but it's but it stops here [TS]

00:48:52 ◼   ► and we're gonna funnel all the vomit [TS]

00:48:54 ◼   ► stuff over here and then at the next [TS]

00:48:56 ◼   ► level are all the things that we plug in [TS]

00:48:58 ◼   ► and they start immediately to smell like [TS]

00:49:00 ◼   ► smoke and we're going to find all those [TS]

00:49:02 ◼   ► over here and then on the other side of [TS]

00:49:04 ◼   ► that all right now all all the clothes [TS]

00:49:07 ◼   ► at least have been bombing tested and [TS]

00:49:09 ◼   ► all the electronic stuff at least [TS]

00:49:12 ◼   ► doesn't catch on fire so then that goes [TS]

00:49:15 ◼   ► to another special group that can look [TS]

00:49:18 ◼   ► at stuff more closely and say alright [TS]

00:49:20 ◼   ► this doesn't smell like vomit but it [TS]

00:49:23 ◼   ► definitely has vomited on it uh-huh [TS]

00:49:25 ◼   ► and so then maybe like this something [TS]

00:49:27 ◼   ► like you and me we're looking at sighs [TS]

00:49:28 ◼   ► we're looking at color [TS]

00:49:29 ◼   ► we're looking at brand we're looking at [TS]

00:49:31 ◼   ► the quality but we we may not be seeing [TS]

00:49:33 ◼   ► the memories that are literally being [TS]

00:49:34 ◼   ► mined out of old men shirts [TS]

00:49:35 ◼   ► that's right and the thing is by the [TS]

00:49:36 ◼   ► time that it by the time that the [TS]

00:49:38 ◼   ► millions and millions of items are are [TS]

00:49:42 ◼   ► filtered to the level that we can be [TS]

00:49:44 ◼   ► worried about size and color who think [TS]

00:49:46 ◼   ► about all of the thing about all the [TS]

00:49:49 ◼   ► tons and tons of materials and memories [TS]

00:49:54 ◼   ► that have been that have been like [TS]

00:49:58 ◼   ► screened and where did all that stuff go [TS]

00:50:01 ◼   ► I mean it onto a barge to CRT town or [TS]

00:50:06 ◼   ► alternately to what I imagine is some [TS]

00:50:09 ◼   ► kind of garment village high up in the [TS]

00:50:13 ◼   ► Vulcan mountains of Romania her foo [TS]

00:50:15 ◼   ► where they are taking all that garment [TS]

00:50:17 ◼   ► all that vomit garment and weaving it [TS]

00:50:22 ◼   ► online also memories don't weigh a lot [TS]

00:50:24 ◼   ► and you think that even while some [TS]

00:50:27 ◼   ► memories can be pretty heavy but you but [TS]

00:50:29 ◼   ► you take the corpus of data and that [TS]

00:50:30 ◼   ► probably goes into some kind of an AI I [TS]

00:50:33 ◼   ► don't know if we're at that level yet i [TS]

00:50:35 ◼   ► mean i don't know how we even know for [TS]

00:50:37 ◼   ► at that level yet I feel like that [TS]

00:50:38 ◼   ► goodwill does not make any sense it [TS]

00:50:41 ◼   ► doesn't make any sense and I do I feel [TS]

00:50:42 ◼   ► like they're they're probably filled and [TS]

00:50:44 ◼   ► filled [TS]

00:50:44 ◼   ► in fields like the plum st a coil fields [TS]

00:50:49 ◼   ► but instead of like oil derricks and and [TS]

00:50:53 ◼   ► Blake burning pit fires there are just [TS]

00:50:57 ◼   ► like The Velveteen rabbits with one [TS]

00:51:00 ◼   ► broken leg of people's memories just [TS]

00:51:04 ◼   ► sort of limping hobbling across this [TS]

00:51:06 ◼   ► plain have you ever seen a rabbit with a [TS]

00:51:08 ◼   ► broken leg me a living one [TS]

00:51:12 ◼   ► yeah live rabbit that's like you know [TS]

00:51:13 ◼   ► that sounds horrible it's terrible [TS]

00:51:15 ◼   ► because the thing about a rabbit bunny [TS]

00:51:17 ◼   ► wants to hop everybody wants to hop and [TS]

00:51:19 ◼   ► also rabbit legs are that's a big part [TS]

00:51:22 ◼   ► of a rabbit their hind legs and they're [TS]

00:51:25 ◼   ► making way the ears in the legs [TS]

00:51:26 ◼   ► anybody's got a fat rat [TS]

00:51:28 ◼   ► well yeah and a you know rabbit's foot I [TS]

00:51:30 ◼   ► mean remember to remember when everybody [TS]

00:51:32 ◼   ► had a rabbit's foot [TS]

00:51:33 ◼   ► it's just what she did I and I wanted [TS]

00:51:36 ◼   ► one and I never I never had 1i think [TS]

00:51:38 ◼   ► they used to be real feet from rabbits [TS]

00:51:39 ◼   ► they were and my mom didn't want me to [TS]

00:51:42 ◼   ► have a rabbit's foot it was something [TS]

00:51:43 ◼   ► you got at the state fair [TS]

00:51:44 ◼   ► no no it's got a bad juju feeling to it [TS]

00:51:47 ◼   ► yeah right but people had rather their [TS]

00:51:48 ◼   ► key chains were rabbits feet [TS]

00:51:50 ◼   ► what is that about I'm just about that [TS]

00:51:53 ◼   ► for the first time now [TS]

00:51:54 ◼   ► yeah yeah a lucky rabbit's foot [TS]

00:51:59 ◼   ► yeah that's what they were called I [TS]

00:52:01 ◼   ► don't I test something like that now [TS]

00:52:02 ◼   ► today you get a dreamweaver not a dream [TS]

00:52:04 ◼   ► people it's called give me a catcher now [TS]

00:52:07 ◼   ► I don't think you do get a dreamcatcher [TS]

00:52:09 ◼   ► I mean you know back then you would get [TS]

00:52:10 ◼   ► a Pepsi bottle that had been an [TS]

00:52:12 ◼   ► elongated oh sure you melt it down [TS]

00:52:14 ◼   ► really long Pepsi bottle but anyway but [TS]

00:52:17 ◼   ► the thing about a rabbit is its foot and [TS]

00:52:19 ◼   ► its leg is a big part of how big it is [TS]

00:52:21 ◼   ► but the rabbit knows when it's what is [TS]

00:52:24 ◼   ► fully functioning the rabbit kind of [TS]

00:52:26 ◼   ► keeps its feet kind of tucked underneath [TS]

00:52:27 ◼   ► itself [TS]

00:52:28 ◼   ► yeah so when a rabbit is just kind of [TS]

00:52:30 ◼   ► sitting there is justly with his little [TS]

00:52:31 ◼   ► nose going you don't realize how how big [TS]

00:52:35 ◼   ► his coiled haunches are but when a [TS]

00:52:38 ◼   ► rabbit has been injured and one of those [TS]

00:52:40 ◼   ► legs is is askew or dragging well then [TS]

00:52:44 ◼   ► it's like oh my god this read that [TS]

00:52:46 ◼   ► that's a big part of that rabbit that's [TS]

00:52:48 ◼   ► not working right now and that is how i [TS]

00:52:50 ◼   ► imagine most people's dreams are once [TS]

00:52:53 ◼   ► they've been removed from [TS]

00:52:55 ◼   ► the vomit garments or the CRT what's the [TS]

00:52:58 ◼   ► most the memories have been liberated [TS]

00:53:00 ◼   ► from clothing or context there like a [TS]

00:53:02 ◼   ► limp limp rabbit there like a wounded [TS]

00:53:04 ◼   ► rabbit and then just wandering around a [TS]

00:53:06 ◼   ► baked plane that smells like oil there [TS]

00:53:09 ◼   ► and maybe they're just hanging onto [TS]

00:53:11 ◼   ► those because they know it's gonna be [TS]

00:53:12 ◼   ► useful for something they're just not [TS]

00:53:14 ◼   ► sure yet they haven't built the AI yet [TS]

00:53:16 ◼   ► and they don't want to get rid of all [TS]

00:53:17 ◼   ► these rabbits unless and until they have [TS]

00:53:20 ◼   ► like fully mind the markets not ready [TS]

00:53:23 ◼   ► for that [TS]

00:53:24 ◼   ► oh my goodness that's a different [TS]

00:53:27 ◼   ► screenplay much worse shape play [TS]

00:53:30 ◼   ► yeah I'm sure thinking about it though [TS]

00:53:31 ◼   ► I'm thinking about I'm yeah yeah you [TS]

00:53:35 ◼   ► know what I gotta quit thinking about [TS]

00:53:35 ◼   ► the second-hand market it's a it's too [TS]

00:53:38 ◼   ► strange and then like you got the whole [TS]

00:53:39 ◼   ► recycling thing that's not to beat the [TS]

00:53:41 ◼   ► recycling thing to death but like I've [TS]

00:53:43 ◼   ► read a couple of things lately that make [TS]

00:53:45 ◼   ► me think that recycling is not as simple [TS]

00:53:47 ◼   ► to understand as we've been led to [TS]

00:53:49 ◼   ► believe I don't think it is at all i [TS]

00:53:51 ◼   ► think it's basically garbage plus i [TS]

00:53:52 ◼   ► think it's like the premium garbage [TS]

00:53:54 ◼   ► where the way I understand it is like [TS]

00:53:56 ◼   ► you know like when you go to the airport [TS]

00:53:58 ◼   ► or you go to the food court or you go to [TS]

00:54:00 ◼   ► wherever and now there's like three four [TS]

00:54:02 ◼   ► five different barrels they're all [TS]

00:54:03 ◼   ► labeled differently it's on credit I [TS]

00:54:05 ◼   ► someone the other day where it was food [TS]

00:54:07 ◼   ► only plastic bottles and trash and it's [TS]

00:54:11 ◼   ► whatever whatever happened to [TS]

00:54:12 ◼   ► compostable cups like that's really [TS]

00:54:14 ◼   ► weird but you know sometimes at the [TS]

00:54:16 ◼   ► airport that will stay right there [TS]

00:54:18 ◼   ► put all your junk in here will be sorted [TS]

00:54:19 ◼   ► off-site trust me right [TS]

00:54:21 ◼   ► and so I don't know I want to be I want [TS]

00:54:23 ◼   ► to be a game or about it but you know [TS]

00:54:25 ◼   ► the thing is like it apparently it turns [TS]

00:54:27 ◼   ► out there's not always a market that [TS]

00:54:30 ◼   ► benefits groups say saving green bottles [TS]

00:54:33 ◼   ► you heard this [TS]

00:54:34 ◼   ► yeah what up you go on well what what [TS]

00:54:37 ◼   ► I've heard I don't know if that's true [TS]

00:54:38 ◼   ► but I mean I think there's I don't know [TS]

00:54:40 ◼   ► that there are some things that are kind [TS]

00:54:41 ◼   ► of perennial like there's a increasingly [TS]

00:54:43 ◼   ► small amount of money you can get for [TS]

00:54:45 ◼   ► for example like cans i think the way [TS]

00:54:48 ◼   ► they make money from Kansas mostly is [TS]

00:54:49 ◼   ► the deposit in a place like San [TS]

00:54:50 ◼   ► Francisco ditto ditto for bottles but [TS]

00:54:53 ◼   ► supposedly I mean it was like to clean [TS]

00:54:55 ◼   ► those bottles and reusing them they're [TS]

00:54:57 ◼   ► not like coke bottles for not anymore [TS]

00:54:58 ◼   ► right right and so but the story goes [TS]

00:55:02 ◼   ► and you tell me if you've heard the same [TS]

00:55:03 ◼   ► thing you know how you know entrées [TS]

00:55:05 ◼   ► into the corridors of power it's my [TS]

00:55:07 ◼   ► understanding that maybe this month [TS]

00:55:09 ◼   ► hey you know what it's actually there's [TS]

00:55:10 ◼   ► there's not enough money for us to [TS]

00:55:12 ◼   ► transport all these green bottles so [TS]

00:55:13 ◼   ► we'll take him to the dump [TS]

00:55:14 ◼   ► wow I don't know if that's true but [TS]

00:55:16 ◼   ► that's what I hear I don't think it's a [TS]

00:55:18 ◼   ► job because all the money is in scale [TS]

00:55:20 ◼   ► and arbitrage like so many things in [TS]

00:55:22 ◼   ► life so I when I reflect on the way that [TS]

00:55:25 ◼   ► I use my own recycling compost and [TS]

00:55:28 ◼   ► garbage bins which now Seattle has [TS]

00:55:30 ◼   ► extended to recycling compost and [TS]

00:55:36 ◼   ► landfill garbage and well let that we [TS]

00:55:40 ◼   ► just we just introduced a new 24 [TS]

00:55:43 ◼   ► yeah we have for now oh my god and man [TS]

00:55:46 ◼   ► like mandated if you put food and food [TS]

00:55:50 ◼   ► waste in the garbage now it's against [TS]

00:55:53 ◼   ► the law they I get frustrated sometimes [TS]

00:55:57 ◼   ► with our neighbors well that they've [TS]

00:55:59 ◼   ► gotten better but the the previous [TS]

00:56:00 ◼   ► person who lived there and since moved [TS]

00:56:02 ◼   ► out I think she took a certain amount of [TS]

00:56:04 ◼   ► joy and willfully I'll i hate this is I [TS]

00:56:08 ◼   ► think she was deliberately pushing my [TS]

00:56:09 ◼   ► buttons that she would take you the [TS]

00:56:10 ◼   ► thing about the computer and it's got a [TS]

00:56:12 ◼   ► sandwich of styrofoam you got like two [TS]

00:56:14 ◼   ► different pieces she would go in and [TS]

00:56:16 ◼   ► just stuff to giant pieces of styrofoam [TS]

00:56:18 ◼   ► into the compost like that was a thing [TS]

00:56:21 ◼   ► Wow now what she doesn't know or doesn't [TS]

00:56:23 ◼   ► care about is like I i use the compost [TS]

00:56:25 ◼   ► like we compost a lot [TS]

00:56:27 ◼   ► yeah and we recycle a lot and here's the [TS]

00:56:29 ◼   ► thing the guy with the mustache that MPs [TS]

00:56:31 ◼   ► are trash or you know puts are all of [TS]

00:56:33 ◼   ► our different buckets into his truck on [TS]

00:56:36 ◼   ► Tuesday mornings he's watching although [TS]

00:56:38 ◼   ► he is rather he's watching us that you [TS]

00:56:40 ◼   ► know what I think he gets ding if a [TS]

00:56:43 ◼   ► bunch of plastic goes into the into its [TS]

00:56:45 ◼   ► own homes [TS]

00:56:46 ◼   ► I think I think he's going to get notes [TS]

00:56:48 ◼   ► if he doesn't get it right and then so [TS]

00:56:50 ◼   ► then he just put it down you know new [TS]

00:56:52 ◼   ► dealer and then he puts up [TS]

00:56:53 ◼   ► passive-aggressive sign on that says you [TS]

00:56:55 ◼   ► check off what what I'm not taking [TS]

00:56:56 ◼   ► because you did it now I'm stuck with [TS]

00:56:58 ◼   ► styrofoam in the compost for a week so [TS]

00:57:00 ◼   ► so this is the thing when i think about [TS]

00:57:02 ◼   ► my own relationship to all these bins [TS]

00:57:04 ◼   ► yeah I realized that I am I am presuming [TS]

00:57:08 ◼   ► that on the other end there is someone [TS]

00:57:14 ◼   ► with a master's degree who understands [TS]

00:57:17 ◼   ► my intention [TS]

00:57:19 ◼   ► and hand sorts each thing that I send [TS]

00:57:23 ◼   ► their way with the same care and thought [TS]

00:57:27 ◼   ► that I have put into which bin to put [TS]

00:57:29 ◼   ► them in and how to arrange them who was [TS]

00:57:32 ◼   ► behind of the refugees correspondence [TS]

00:57:35 ◼   ► yeah exactly because it's like there's [TS]

00:57:36 ◼   ► some rule where I lids go in the garbage [TS]

00:57:40 ◼   ► unless a lid is eight inches or six [TS]

00:57:43 ◼   ► inches across and then those lids go in [TS]

00:57:47 ◼   ► the recycling well I can't leave me like [TS]

00:57:51 ◼   ► I like a soldier's coffee lid [TS]

00:57:53 ◼   ► yeah like a lid from a jar food so if [TS]

00:57:55 ◼   ► your lid it's it's basically like [TS]

00:57:57 ◼   ► halibut fishing you know i had never [TS]

00:57:59 ◼   ► heard this if your lid is under 6 inches [TS]

00:58:01 ◼   ► yet to throw a wetback but if your lid [TS]

00:58:05 ◼   ► is over six inches then it it's in a [TS]

00:58:07 ◼   ► special category of lids that go to it [TS]

00:58:09 ◼   ► get that and I imagine at the recycling [TS]

00:58:12 ◼   ► plant the lids go by and there's someone [TS]

00:58:15 ◼   ► there paid [TS]

00:58:16 ◼   ► I you know with again with a like a [TS]

00:58:19 ◼   ► jeweler's loupe and a and a and a [TS]

00:58:23 ◼   ► yardstick that's grabbing lids off the [TS]

00:58:25 ◼   ► conveyor belt is like the lids are mine [TS]

00:58:27 ◼   ► I'm the lid the lid person and they are [TS]

00:58:30 ◼   ► all they have a separate kind of man [TS]

00:58:31 ◼   ► they're sorting lids and they have plans [TS]

00:58:33 ◼   ► for all the lids and that because the [TS]

00:58:34 ◼   ► thing is it's not by MIT it's not by [TS]

00:58:37 ◼   ► composition write a plastic lid that's [TS]

00:58:39 ◼   ► over six inches and a metal lid that's [TS]

00:58:41 ◼   ► over six inches both fulfilled the [TS]

00:58:43 ◼   ► six-inch rule but they are made of [TS]

00:58:45 ◼   ► completely different stuff and so as as [TS]

00:58:50 ◼   ► far as I read the instructions both of [TS]

00:58:52 ◼   ► those lids are recyclable whereas a [TS]

00:58:55 ◼   ► 4-inch lid that's made of aluminum and a [TS]

00:58:57 ◼   ► 4-inch little that's made a plastic both [TS]

00:58:59 ◼   ► go in the garbage and so when I picture [TS]

00:59:02 ◼   ► the recycling center i think of it as a [TS]

00:59:05 ◼   ► miraculous place it literally is where [TS]

00:59:07 ◼   ► the idea of super train came from a that [TS]

00:59:11 ◼   ► this like this temple where hundreds of [TS]

00:59:15 ◼   ► trained people are going through our [TS]

00:59:18 ◼   ► garbage and turning that garbage into [TS]

00:59:21 ◼   ► the Diamonds of remade repurposed like [TS]

00:59:30 ◼   ► basic materials but i but as you as you [TS]

00:59:34 ◼   ► say and as I think about it now of [TS]

00:59:37 ◼   ► course that's not happening it's all [TS]

00:59:38 ◼   ► just going into the it's all going into [TS]

00:59:40 ◼   ► a freight car and just being dumped in [TS]

00:59:42 ◼   ► the ocean because the truth is if this [TS]

00:59:46 ◼   ► whole process is not confusing though [TS]

00:59:49 ◼   ► the more confusing this process is the [TS]

00:59:51 ◼   ► more likely it is they're actually doing [TS]

00:59:53 ◼   ► something with any of the stuff if you [TS]

00:59:55 ◼   ► use everything called recycling and [TS]

00:59:56 ◼   ► every throw stuff in there but that's a [TS]

00:59:57 ◼   ► pretty good chance a lot of stuff gets [TS]

00:59:59 ◼   ► thrown away [TS]

00:59:59 ◼   ► thrown away [TS]

01:00:00 ◼   ► right and I think about when we started [TS]

01:00:01 ◼   ► doing recycling at my college circa [TS]

01:00:03 ◼   ► nineteen eighty-six we clean up after a [TS]

01:00:05 ◼   ► party and we would have different [TS]

01:00:06 ◼   ► garbage cans [TS]

01:00:07 ◼   ► this one is for aluminum cans right this [TS]

01:00:09 ◼   ► one's for clear bottles this one's for [TS]

01:00:11 ◼   ► green bottles this one's for brown [TS]

01:00:12 ◼   ► bottles because no reset back to make [TS]

01:00:14 ◼   ► sure the technology's changed or I [TS]

01:00:16 ◼   ► imagine it has but back then that if you [TS]

01:00:18 ◼   ► wanted to go get the stuff recycled you [TS]

01:00:19 ◼   ► do the sorting yourself right there was [TS]

01:00:21 ◼   ► just just just pure acceptance at that [TS]

01:00:24 ◼   ► place it did that but you had to like [TS]

01:00:25 ◼   ► bring the right stuff that's right i [TS]

01:00:27 ◼   ► delete things perplexing to me because [TS]

01:00:29 ◼   ► what do you do what what do they do with [TS]

01:00:31 ◼   ► plastic to recycle it they melted [TS]

01:00:34 ◼   ► I keep thinking that that's what happens [TS]

01:00:37 ◼   ► that they that they melt it down and get [TS]

01:00:39 ◼   ► it back to its pure essence which is you [TS]

01:00:41 ◼   ► know they make dinosaurs out of her and [TS]

01:00:42 ◼   ► you're like a playground equipment [TS]

01:00:44 ◼   ► Yeah right there they make they make our [TS]

01:00:46 ◼   ► higher our nation's highways something's [TS]

01:00:50 ◼   ► not right [TS]

01:00:51 ◼   ► something something something feels [TS]

01:00:53 ◼   ► weird about this and this is why I this [TS]

01:00:55 ◼   ► is why i feel like the next technology [TS]

01:00:56 ◼   ► and if I were Elon Musk [TS]

01:00:59 ◼   ► I would stand boy if I were here lon [TS]