Roderick on the Line

00:00:00 ◼   ► I'm Merlin night John how are you I'm [TS]

00:00:09 ◼   ► doing great man how's it going pretty [TS]

00:00:11 ◼   ► good tale me somethin John around uh [TS]

00:00:17 ◼   ► let's see something John that you like [TS]

00:00:20 ◼   ► and where I add some I made some coffee [TS]

00:00:24 ◼   ► mhm and then that this is what will give [TS]

00:00:27 ◼   ► you some sense of where I'm at I I [TS]

00:00:31 ◼   ► looked in the refrigerator and there was [TS]

00:00:32 ◼   ► some cream in there and I grabbed it and [TS]

00:00:36 ◼   ► I knew that there were I knew that there [TS]

00:00:37 ◼   ► was a variety of sort of suspect creams [TS]

00:00:40 ◼   ► in the in the refrigerator [TS]

00:00:42 ◼   ► yeah but it was also possible there's [TS]

00:00:44 ◼   ► been a few people in and out of the [TS]

00:00:45 ◼   ► house is also possible that somebody had [TS]

00:00:47 ◼   ► bought a new cream a new container of [TS]

00:00:50 ◼   ► cream eisenberg uncertainty cream [TS]

00:00:51 ◼   ► yep and so I I grabbed the cream I [TS]

00:00:56 ◼   ► looked at it I read the date and I said [TS]

00:00:59 ◼   ► oh joon one it's almost june yeah right [TS]

00:01:02 ◼   ► and I right on the corner and I put the [TS]

00:01:04 ◼   ► cream in the coffee and then I you know [TS]

00:01:06 ◼   ► was walking around sipping it and if [TS]

00:01:08 ◼   ► there were some floaters but you know [TS]

00:01:09 ◼   ► that what does come on i'm not a guy [TS]

00:01:12 ◼   ► that's gonna throw a cup of coffee way [TS]

00:01:13 ◼   ► just for a couple of floaters and then [TS]

00:01:16 ◼   ► after about 10 minutes I had one of [TS]

00:01:20 ◼   ► those sort of you know the slow delayed [TS]

00:01:22 ◼   ► slit time release the oxycontin of [TS]

00:01:25 ◼   ► thought where I was like jun 10 [TS]

00:01:31 ◼   ► it's almost august our God and then I [TS]

00:01:35 ◼   ► went and looked at the looked at it [TS]

00:01:39 ◼   ► again to confirm that it was june and i [TS]

00:01:41 ◼   ► open it up and I smell the cream and it [TS]

00:01:43 ◼   ► was it did not smell like spoiled milk [TS]

00:01:46 ◼   ► it smelled kind of like pie [TS]

00:01:51 ◼   ► it had moved into some other realm where [TS]

00:01:55 ◼   ► it was or or or maybe it's that at that [TS]

00:01:57 ◼   ► strange phenomenon where we're [TS]

00:01:59 ◼   ► half-and-half doesn't spoil because it's [TS]

00:02:01 ◼   ► like you can only get so spoiled [TS]

00:02:03 ◼   ► yeah right it just means refrigerated [TS]

00:02:05 ◼   ► but it becomes something else it go it [TS]

00:02:08 ◼   ► turns into like it had like a state [TS]

00:02:10 ◼   ► change state change that's right it [TS]

00:02:12 ◼   ► becomes a particulate [TS]

00:02:13 ◼   ► and and so you know what I i made the i [TS]

00:02:17 ◼   ► made the executive decision as executive [TS]

00:02:19 ◼   ► level decision to just go with it so I [TS]

00:02:23 ◼   ► am I still have you know it because I [TS]

00:02:26 ◼   ► drink my coffee out of a half-liter beer [TS]

00:02:28 ◼   ► steins i'm sitting here with the with [TS]

00:02:31 ◼   ► about a quarter of the leader of coffee [TS]

00:02:33 ◼   ► and and um uh what I can only describe [TS]

00:02:36 ◼   ► as April's cream and and we're that's [TS]

00:02:42 ◼   ► that's how I'm starting today [TS]

00:02:43 ◼   ► boom you just get power through it [TS]

00:02:45 ◼   ► myself you know it's a little little [TS]

00:02:49 ◼   ► little saltier it's a little bit you [TS]

00:02:51 ◼   ► know it's got a little go pow [TS]

00:02:53 ◼   ► I coffee yeah I shouldn't say this but [TS]

00:02:56 ◼   ► my coffee apparatus at work at some [TS]

00:02:59 ◼   ► point i guess the last year so stop [TS]

00:03:01 ◼   ► working and I was drinking less coffee [TS]

00:03:03 ◼   ► at work i would have helped bring it in [TS]

00:03:05 ◼   ► a long story short i have a half and [TS]

00:03:09 ◼   ► half in my refrigerator that expired in [TS]

00:03:11 ◼   ► april 2014 [TS]

00:03:13 ◼   ► oh and here's my thought it got to be [TS]

00:03:16 ◼   ► able scream 2015 but you know what it [TS]

00:03:20 ◼   ► maybe this is back to like affections [TS]

00:03:21 ◼   ► for your shirt [TS]

00:03:23 ◼   ► i I didn't throw the guy out I want to [TS]

00:03:25 ◼   ► see how long he can stick around as [TS]

00:03:27 ◼   ► April screams like he's been April [TS]

00:03:29 ◼   ► scream twice now I mean I don't know [TS]

00:03:31 ◼   ► it's sort of like putting a relative in [TS]

00:03:33 ◼   ► a home or something like well you know [TS]

00:03:34 ◼   ► they're they're kinda stinky not very [TS]

00:03:36 ◼   ► useful but you know you get affection [TS]

00:03:38 ◼   ► let me ask you this have you considered [TS]

00:03:39 ◼   ► the cow or cows that produced April [TS]

00:03:43 ◼   ► scream where they are now [TS]

00:03:45 ◼   ► yeah that makes me so sad when I watch a [TS]

00:03:47 ◼   ► movie and I know the dogs dead you know [TS]

00:03:49 ◼   ► boo from France Ubu sit he died in [TS]

00:03:52 ◼   ► nineteen eighty-four really yeah but his [TS]

00:03:54 ◼   ► legacy continues on the loose it [TS]

00:03:56 ◼   ► good boy good dog oh man that is rough [TS]

00:03:59 ◼   ► we got some new coffee technology at the [TS]

00:04:01 ◼   ► house and I'm a mixed feelings about it [TS]

00:04:04 ◼   ► uh how so well you know you know our [TS]

00:04:08 ◼   ► house we have like two plugs in the [TS]

00:04:09 ◼   ► house because it was built in 1904 [TS]

00:04:13 ◼   ► one-electron city was powered by gas in [TS]

00:04:15 ◼   ► 1928 was powered by horses and and so we [TS]

00:04:19 ◼   ► don't have a lot and we don't have a lot [TS]

00:04:20 ◼   ► of counter space but my wife in her new [TS]

00:04:23 ◼   ► job has become so taken with the keurig [TS]

00:04:25 ◼   ► k-cup system [TS]

00:04:27 ◼   ► oh it is a system isn't it yeah and I [TS]

00:04:30 ◼   ► was kind of always just against because [TS]

00:04:32 ◼   ► it seemed a little fancy to have a [TS]

00:04:33 ◼   ► single let you know a piece of [TS]

00:04:35 ◼   ► electronics is that big for doing one [TS]

00:04:37 ◼   ► thing that takes up that much space but [TS]

00:04:39 ◼   ► when it got one and takes up a lot of [TS]

00:04:41 ◼   ► space but it's really good [TS]

00:04:43 ◼   ► well as he was wrong though it makes a [TS]

00:04:46 ◼   ► lot of waste like I just don't feel good [TS]

00:04:48 ◼   ► about it but man it's a great cup of [TS]

00:04:50 ◼   ► coffee in less than a minute [TS]

00:04:51 ◼   ► it produces a ton of little used cups [TS]

00:04:55 ◼   ► yeah but a you know what am I mean [TS]

00:04:58 ◼   ► coffee problems is that I you know I was [TS]

00:05:02 ◼   ► made aware several years ago a that [TS]

00:05:04 ◼   ► coffee mold is not just the the major [TS]

00:05:09 ◼   ► mold system that arrives on your coffee [TS]

00:05:13 ◼   ► filter if you don't change it for two [TS]

00:05:15 ◼   ► weeks [TS]

00:05:15 ◼   ► mmm coffee mold is something that is [TS]

00:05:18 ◼   ► that's present in it can be present in [TS]

00:05:22 ◼   ► your coffee without you knowing about it [TS]

00:05:25 ◼   ► like if it's like old beans or ground [TS]

00:05:28 ◼   ► along i ride old beans or be a grind [TS]

00:05:31 ◼   ► that's been sitting around coffee mold [TS]

00:05:32 ◼   ► becomes becomes a presence and you're [TS]

00:05:38 ◼   ► just sort of not you're not conscious of [TS]

00:05:41 ◼   ► it but talk coffee mold is potentially [TS]

00:05:43 ◼   ► bad for you could be toxic who knows but [TS]

00:05:47 ◼   ► I am I'm always fighting a losing losing [TS]

00:05:50 ◼   ► battle up over coffee mold because i [TS]

00:05:54 ◼   ► don't i don't have a regular or [TS]

00:05:57 ◼   ► predictable routine [TS]

00:06:00 ◼   ► obviously this is reflected in your [TS]

00:06:01 ◼   ► April scream exactly i mean you know it [TS]

00:06:04 ◼   ► seems like you would have gone through [TS]

00:06:06 ◼   ► that is like a half gallon or quart what [TS]

00:06:09 ◼   ► is it will see what so here's what [TS]

00:06:11 ◼   ► happens with the cream right there at [TS]

00:06:13 ◼   ► April's cream sometime in June was [TS]

00:06:18 ◼   ► determined by some one else who was [TS]

00:06:22 ◼   ► cycling through my home to be too old [TS]

00:06:27 ◼   ► because meet different people have [TS]

00:06:28 ◼   ► different ideas about how old cream [TS]

00:06:31 ◼   ► should be yeah and if it says expo [TS]

00:06:33 ◼   ► expiration date jun 1 and it's June [TS]

00:06:37 ◼   ► fifteenth well [TS]

00:06:39 ◼   ► up certain slice of the population will [TS]

00:06:42 ◼   ► go ahead and get another one right that [TS]

00:06:44 ◼   ► see this is how they get you John this [TS]

00:06:46 ◼   ► is a used to put expiration dates on [TS]

00:06:48 ◼   ► things and it was an expiration date and [TS]

00:06:50 ◼   ► you would say you you gotta eat the [TS]

00:06:52 ◼   ► salami by december and like that was [TS]

00:06:55 ◼   ► something we could all understand i [TS]

00:06:56 ◼   ► think the sell-by date is all about the [TS]

00:06:58 ◼   ► people who are selling its their [TS]

00:06:59 ◼   ► convenience to head out on their sell it [TS]

00:07:02 ◼   ► by right right but I am somebody who is [TS]

00:07:05 ◼   ► who sees a sell-by date of june one on [TS]

00:07:08 ◼   ► june fifteenth and I feel like right [TS]

00:07:10 ◼   ► where right you know we're right in [TS]

00:07:11 ◼   ► right in the strike zone here [TS]

00:07:14 ◼   ► yeah but you know I I'm not in one [TS]

00:07:18 ◼   ► hundred percent control my environment [TS]

00:07:20 ◼   ► anymore huh [TS]

00:07:22 ◼   ► so another cream appeared in my [TS]

00:07:26 ◼   ► refrigerator and and frankly it was a it [TS]

00:07:28 ◼   ► was a bigger cream and a newer cream and [TS]

00:07:32 ◼   ► it coincided with the time that I was [TS]

00:07:34 ◼   ► out of town so when i arrived back in [TS]

00:07:37 ◼   ► town here's this big new cream [TS]

00:07:40 ◼   ► look you know April's cream is is back [TS]

00:07:43 ◼   ► in there somewhere with the you know the [TS]

00:07:45 ◼   ► half empty container of Greek yogurt and [TS]

00:07:47 ◼   ► three or four different mustards and and [TS]

00:07:51 ◼   ► a box of Armand Hammer baking soda [TS]

00:07:53 ◼   ► that's been there since 2007 and I [TS]

00:07:56 ◼   ► honestly you know I just reach for the [TS]

00:07:58 ◼   ► front cream in that case you know like [TS]

00:08:01 ◼   ► i'm not i'm not so I'm not so like [TS]

00:08:04 ◼   ► managing my my refrigerator contents [TS]

00:08:08 ◼   ► that I'm like listen I'm gonna work my [TS]

00:08:11 ◼   ► way through april screen before i move [TS]

00:08:12 ◼   ► into this June cream o.o understand I'm [TS]

00:08:16 ◼   ► just reaching in grabbing the top cream [TS]

00:08:18 ◼   ► first screen and April scream just got [TS]

00:08:22 ◼   ► pushed back i think there's probably you [TS]

00:08:25 ◼   ► know probably a mustard like migrated in [TS]

00:08:27 ◼   ► front and then it was back to but the [TS]

00:08:29 ◼   ► thing was I what I do manage my [TS]

00:08:30 ◼   ► refrigerator well enough to know it was [TS]

00:08:32 ◼   ► in there [TS]

00:08:33 ◼   ► uh-huh I knew it was there I just wasn't [TS]

00:08:36 ◼   ► you know it like kind of like you I [TS]

00:08:38 ◼   ► wasn't it at any point along the way was [TS]

00:08:40 ◼   ► I ready to say like you know it's time [TS]

00:08:42 ◼   ► to go in and and do the humane thing and [TS]

00:08:46 ◼   ► have April screams go live on a farm [TS]

00:08:48 ◼   ► and so here's what happened right you [TS]

00:08:52 ◼   ► know the the main creams of which there [TS]

00:08:55 ◼   ► have been for probably since then for [TS]

00:08:58 ◼   ► forefront creams all got cycled through [TS]

00:09:01 ◼   ► and then one day April scream just [TS]

00:09:03 ◼   ► popped up [TS]

00:09:05 ◼   ► I don't know how she did it she just you [TS]

00:09:08 ◼   ► know there was some kind of refrigerator [TS]

00:09:10 ◼   ► machination the mustard let their guard [TS]

00:09:13 ◼   ► down for a second april' scream came to [TS]

00:09:15 ◼   ► the fore and masqueraded as a new cream [TS]

00:09:18 ◼   ► huh and now here I am and I don't know [TS]

00:09:21 ◼   ► what's going to happen if i drink this [TS]

00:09:25 ◼   ► cream today I don't know you know this [TS]

00:09:28 ◼   ► is also the top of this is also the [TS]

00:09:29 ◼   ► beginning a blackberry season here huh [TS]

00:09:32 ◼   ► and so as you as you probably know [TS]

00:09:34 ◼   ► blackberries please grow in abundance it [TS]

00:09:37 ◼   ► precisely in all those areas where the [TS]

00:09:40 ◼   ► pollution is the highest i didn't know [TS]

00:09:42 ◼   ► that well it just seems like the only [TS]

00:09:43 ◼   ► the the places where people let [TS]

00:09:45 ◼   ► blackberries run riot are right next to [TS]

00:09:49 ◼   ► the freeway right next to the you know [TS]

00:09:51 ◼   ► right next to the train switching yard [TS]

00:09:54 ◼   ► right next to the where they dump the [TS]

00:09:56 ◼   ► unusable of gas and so you know you're [TS]

00:10:03 ◼   ► always kind of out there in this out [TS]

00:10:04 ◼   ► there on this you pull over to the side [TS]

00:10:06 ◼   ► of the road you're gathering [TS]

00:10:06 ◼   ► blackberries and you're having a [TS]

00:10:08 ◼   ► wonderful time but you're conscious that [TS]

00:10:10 ◼   ► they are covered with if they're all [TS]

00:10:11 ◼   ► covered with the film [TS]

00:10:13 ◼   ► uh-huh ok kind of environmental dander [TS]

00:10:15 ◼   ► mm-hmm [TS]

00:10:17 ◼   ► so you know I've been scarfing [TS]

00:10:19 ◼   ► blackberries 2i x by this afternoon i [TS]

00:10:23 ◼   ► could be in the hospital [TS]

00:10:24 ◼   ► oh good hey I wasn't gonna say anything [TS]

00:10:27 ◼   ► but the the tale that you're weaving [TS]

00:10:30 ◼   ► here involves people scream you've got [TS]

00:10:33 ◼   ► you've got coffee dander you got the [TS]

00:10:34 ◼   ► coffee mold that has performance [TS]

00:10:35 ◼   ► characteristics i don't think we've even [TS]

00:10:37 ◼   ► begun to identify that's right that's [TS]

00:10:38 ◼   ► right it could I could see through time [TS]

00:10:40 ◼   ► if i have enough coffee mold iic now as [TS]

00:10:45 ◼   ► soon as I hear about a new kind of [TS]

00:10:46 ◼   ► dancer the first thing I think about is [TS]

00:10:47 ◼   ► the toxic plasmosis [TS]

00:10:49 ◼   ► mm ok more was the cat poop thing it's [TS]

00:10:52 ◼   ► thing that makes people crazy [TS]

00:10:53 ◼   ► sure you can't you you might remember [TS]

00:10:55 ◼   ► when there was a child on the way you [TS]

00:10:57 ◼   ► start reading lots of things that say be [TS]

00:10:58 ◼   ► careful with the cats because you get [TS]

00:11:00 ◼   ► toxoplasmosis that's really bad [TS]

00:11:01 ◼   ► for babies that are in their mommy's [TS]

00:11:03 ◼   ► tummy yeah we sent the cats to live with [TS]

00:11:05 ◼   ► Aunt Martha when the baby was coming so [TS]

00:11:07 ◼   ► you're not you're not above making a [TS]

00:11:09 ◼   ► hard decision if you know that there's [TS]

00:11:11 ◼   ► that there's a risk my daughters [TS]

00:11:13 ◼   ► Mother's cats were the two most awful [TS]

00:11:16 ◼   ► people I had ever met in my life [TS]

00:11:18 ◼   ► they were one of them at some point as a [TS]

00:11:22 ◼   ► young cat had some cognitive disconnect [TS]

00:11:26 ◼   ► where the cat did not understand what [TS]

00:11:29 ◼   ► hissing the role that hissing performed [TS]

00:11:32 ◼   ► in a normal sort of social milia [TS]

00:11:36 ◼   ► interesting it's a domestic cat it [TS]

00:11:39 ◼   ► doesn't know all the signals uh either [TS]

00:11:41 ◼   ► of being a wildcat or being a [TS]

00:11:43 ◼   ► domesticated cat might have crossed [TS]

00:11:44 ◼   ► wires [TS]

00:11:45 ◼   ► yeah right so the cat I feel like enjoy [TS]

00:11:48 ◼   ► it personally enjoy kissing but hissed [TS]

00:11:52 ◼   ► at inappropriate times fists at people [TS]

00:11:56 ◼   ► that knew well pissed at you know like [TS]

00:12:00 ◼   ► came to you to be petted you pet you pat [TS]

00:12:03 ◼   ► it you petted it and then it hit you and [TS]

00:12:08 ◼   ► then it remained there to be petted more [TS]

00:12:10 ◼   ► so it sounds like half the women I date [TS]

00:12:13 ◼   ► in college hmm but uh but not only that [TS]

00:12:22 ◼   ► but the cat had a you know when it's [TS]

00:12:24 ◼   ► hissing it is it is propelling whiskers [TS]

00:12:28 ◼   ► breath at you yeah you know so it's just [TS]

00:12:31 ◼   ► it's hissing right in your face and it's [TS]

00:12:32 ◼   ► just like the word the inside of this [TS]

00:12:34 ◼   ► it's like inside of a cat smell yet on [TS]

00:12:38 ◼   ► this thing that thing's not flossing [TS]

00:12:40 ◼   ► look [TS]

00:12:41 ◼   ► yeah so that cat was really bad and then [TS]

00:12:43 ◼   ► the other cat I think suffered from [TS]

00:12:45 ◼   ► Kitty malaise all I had a kind of [TS]

00:12:49 ◼   ► feeling on we did it feel light on [TS]

00:12:51 ◼   ► what's so sad John and so that cat [TS]

00:12:54 ◼   ► didn't really care for itself didn't [TS]

00:12:57 ◼   ► have a very high self esteem it didn't [TS]

00:12:59 ◼   ► keep itself up and so the combination of [TS]

00:13:02 ◼   ► these two cats are you know I was just [TS]

00:13:04 ◼   ► like listen these catch [TS]

00:13:06 ◼   ► I mean talk about go live on a farm [TS]

00:13:07 ◼   ► these cats should go live in the sea [TS]

00:13:10 ◼   ► and how she attached to them [TS]

00:13:13 ◼   ► well you know people get attached to me [TS]

00:13:16 ◼   ► that's probably the toxoplasmosis it [TS]

00:13:17 ◼   ► gets into your brain [TS]

00:13:19 ◼   ► yeah well I feel like that's absolutely [TS]

00:13:21 ◼   ► true because there was you know there [TS]

00:13:24 ◼   ► was just cat garbage in the air but also [TS]

00:13:28 ◼   ► you know there's a little bit of [TS]

00:13:29 ◼   ► Stockholm Syndrome happening there where [TS]

00:13:32 ◼   ► you are held captive by these monsters [TS]

00:13:35 ◼   ► and then you start to feel sympathetic [TS]

00:13:36 ◼   ► to them huh yeah he's so nice to me [TS]

00:13:39 ◼   ► yeah oh no he doesn't mean that he just [TS]

00:13:42 ◼   ► blah i'm like the only only reason to [TS]

00:13:46 ◼   ► keep a pet is that that pet is it is a [TS]

00:13:49 ◼   ► companion and a friend to keep a pet who [TS]

00:13:53 ◼   ► clearly wants to die is 22 no one favor [TS]

00:13:58 ◼   ► and so but it turned out that Aunt [TS]

00:14:02 ◼   ► Martha is a cat lover and was able to [TS]

00:14:09 ◼   ► take these two cats and give them a [TS]

00:14:11 ◼   ► happy life where the the the depressed [TS]

00:14:15 ◼   ► cat started grooming itself again and [TS]

00:14:18 ◼   ► the hissing cat I think lived on top of [TS]

00:14:21 ◼   ► the refrigerator and was showered with [TS]

00:14:23 ◼   ► love and at the end [TS]

00:14:25 ◼   ► actually it was a it was a story where [TS]

00:14:27 ◼   ► we're uh it had a happy ending we had a [TS]

00:14:32 ◼   ► baby that did not suffer from [TS]

00:14:33 ◼   ► toxoplasmosis and I never had to see [TS]

00:14:37 ◼   ► those cats again there are numerous [TS]

00:14:41 ◼   ► according to wikipedia notable cases of [TS]

00:14:43 ◼   ► celebrities who have contracted [TS]

00:14:44 ◼   ► toxoplasmosis tell me more gwyneth [TS]

00:14:47 ◼   ► paltrow please check i don't see it here [TS]

00:14:49 ◼   ► its sheep when she's right she's right [TS]

00:14:51 ◼   ► in the sweet spot i would say winter [TS]

00:14:53 ◼   ► thinking that we have seemed like yeah I [TS]

00:14:55 ◼   ► I'm just glancing at this quickly I I [TS]

00:14:57 ◼   ► don't want I don't want to get email [TS]

00:14:59 ◼   ► about this i have heard it said it is [TS]

00:15:01 ◼   ► said by some people [TS]

00:15:02 ◼   ► turns out that this is what causes the [TS]

00:15:04 ◼   ► big the cat lady thing because you know [TS]

00:15:05 ◼   ► like there's a certain kind of like [TS]

00:15:06 ◼   ► super interesting animals that can take [TS]

00:15:08 ◼   ► over another animal and make you crazy [TS]

00:15:09 ◼   ► stuff you know how you can get like a [TS]

00:15:11 ◼   ► zombie and or something like that [TS]

00:15:13 ◼   ► yeah supposedly the story goes out of [TS]

00:15:14 ◼   ► this is exactly toxoplasmosis but part [TS]

00:15:17 ◼   ► of the reason you become like somebody [TS]

00:15:19 ◼   ► who has a lot of attractive cat dander [TS]

00:15:21 ◼   ► in the house is that the toxoplasmosis [TS]

00:15:23 ◼   ► is attacking someone [TS]

00:15:24 ◼   ► of your brain that says hey it's okay [TS]

00:15:25 ◼   ► for all this poop to make more [TS]

00:15:26 ◼   ► toxoplasmosis and then you don't know it [TS]

00:15:29 ◼   ► wow that's heavy was coming from inside [TS]

00:15:31 ◼   ► the cat I see now i want to know how [TS]

00:15:33 ◼   ► often when you say i don't want to get [TS]

00:15:35 ◼   ► emails about this how often does that [TS]

00:15:36 ◼   ► work [TS]

00:15:37 ◼   ► I couldn't go like i can't say i guess [TS]

00:15:39 ◼   ► uh I guess I want to email him i think [TS]

00:15:42 ◼   ► people will talk to plasmosis will send [TS]

00:15:43 ◼   ► a lot of emails i think that's a side [TS]

00:15:45 ◼   ► effect of it [TS]

00:15:46 ◼   ► this is super interesting there's 33 [TS]

00:15:47 ◼   ► prominent athletes that have had Arthur [TS]

00:15:49 ◼   ► Ashe the late great Arthur Ashe had [TS]

00:15:51 ◼   ► toxoplasmosis [TS]

00:15:52 ◼   ► hmm he later he later you know he had [TS]

00:15:54 ◼   ► the AIDS but he developed neurological [TS]

00:15:57 ◼   ► problems from toxoplasmosis with your [TS]

00:15:59 ◼   ► arm [TS]

00:15:59 ◼   ► martina navratilova so it's a tennis [TS]

00:16:02 ◼   ► player this tennis problem or it might [TS]

00:16:03 ◼   ► be it might be Sebastian Coe remember [TS]

00:16:06 ◼   ► the guy who had the had the Union Jack [TS]

00:16:07 ◼   ► on shorts the right right right you [TS]

00:16:10 ◼   ► already had it and some other people [TS]

00:16:11 ◼   ► Prince Francois the count of claremont [TS]

00:16:14 ◼   ► returns pretender to the throne of [TS]

00:16:15 ◼   ► France [TS]

00:16:16 ◼   ► well sure I was just exchanging letters [TS]

00:16:18 ◼   ► with him the other day his disability [TS]

00:16:20 ◼   ► caused him to be overlooked in the line [TS]

00:16:21 ◼   ► of succession it's not a shame [TS]

00:16:22 ◼   ► wow really are using ensure wasn't [TS]

00:16:25 ◼   ► simplistic it sounds like it could have [TS]

00:16:27 ◼   ► been something more severe enjoy your [TS]

00:16:29 ◼   ► captain's crap but I I feel like that up [TS]

00:16:34 ◼   ► we had cats growing up when I really and [TS]

00:16:39 ◼   ► my mom allowed cats [TS]

00:16:40 ◼   ► well here's the thing we loved cats but [TS]

00:16:44 ◼   ► we were both allergic to cats and we [TS]

00:16:47 ◼   ► didn't know because allergy detection [TS]

00:16:51 ◼   ► technologies and allergy and the you [TS]

00:16:55 ◼   ► know and the cult of allergy had not yet [TS]

00:16:57 ◼   ► entered into the American consciousness [TS]

00:17:00 ◼   ► and so the fact that i had a chronic [TS]

00:17:03 ◼   ► cough and fatigue my whole childhood was [TS]

00:17:10 ◼   ► never attributed to anything other than [TS]

00:17:12 ◼   ► a sickness or I don't know what other [TS]

00:17:16 ◼   ► playing other cultural reasons to think [TS]

00:17:19 ◼   ► the children were broken inside [TS]

00:17:20 ◼   ► yep you didn't need science there to pop [TS]

00:17:22 ◼   ► it up yeah and so it turned out later [TS]

00:17:25 ◼   ► that you know i was sleeping with a cat [TS]

00:17:27 ◼   ► on my chest my entire young life and I [TS]

00:17:30 ◼   ► was allergic to them so I [TS]

00:17:35 ◼   ► this so we don't we don't keep them [TS]

00:17:37 ◼   ► anymore but but you know we were we work [TS]

00:17:40 ◼   ► at three and we enjoyed cats for some [TS]

00:17:43 ◼   ► reason I don't know my dad like that my [TS]

00:17:45 ◼   ► mom liked them cats were sort of always [TS]

00:17:50 ◼   ► present and i had i have to say i had a [TS]

00:17:53 ◼   ► couple of great cats will you do pretty [TS]

00:17:56 ◼   ► recently had a secret cat you have a [TS]

00:17:57 ◼   ► secret that you didn't talk about it but [TS]

00:17:59 ◼   ► you had a cat that you loved yeah I [TS]

00:18:00 ◼   ► didn't like your heart [TS]

00:18:01 ◼   ► yeah he did he did he got hit by car so [TS]

00:18:05 ◼   ► and that was that was Louis and then in [TS]

00:18:08 ◼   ► the pantheon of great cats i have to say [TS]

00:18:11 ◼   ► Guido was a great cat you know there [TS]

00:18:15 ◼   ► were some there were some support [TS]

00:18:17 ◼   ► quality cats in there to my dad thought [TS]

00:18:20 ◼   ► that my dad thought puppy was a good cat [TS]

00:18:22 ◼   ► I never really bonded with puppy and [TS]

00:18:24 ◼   ► then puppy died and dad got puppy too [TS]

00:18:26 ◼   ► and the puppy to was a pretty good [TS]

00:18:29 ◼   ► pretty good Mouser oh nice but not a [TS]

00:18:33 ◼   ► real like not a real good dude but not a [TS]

00:18:37 ◼   ► very personable guy he had a lot hit he [TS]

00:18:39 ◼   ► felt like he had a job to do [TS]

00:18:41 ◼   ► tippy was a good cat flaky was a flaky [TS]

00:18:47 ◼   ► cat and then all learning so much you [TS]

00:18:51 ◼   ► know all the way back to mel mel one of [TS]

00:18:54 ◼   ► the original great cats my mom and my [TS]

00:18:57 ◼   ► mom and dad talked about a symbol [TS]

00:18:59 ◼   ► Jacobian Tiffany Michelle their two cats [TS]

00:19:03 ◼   ► from the sixties they talked about those [TS]

00:19:04 ◼   ► cats until until my dad passed away it [TS]

00:19:07 ◼   ► was good still sit around and talk about [TS]

00:19:08 ◼   ► simple Jacoby and Tiffany Michelle the [TS]

00:19:10 ◼   ► great names who would ride on the bat [TS]

00:19:13 ◼   ► they would jump up on the back of my [TS]

00:19:14 ◼   ► folks borzoi manouschka and ride around [TS]

00:19:19 ◼   ► and their dog they would follow [TS]

00:19:21 ◼   ► manouschka around the neighborhood like [TS]

00:19:23 ◼   ► a like a little pack of elephants but [TS]

00:19:26 ◼   ► enough listen enough about my family's [TS]

00:19:28 ◼   ► cat history no cats now we are presently [TS]

00:19:31 ◼   ► catless I just sent you a link in the in [TS]

00:19:35 ◼   ► the robot we met a cat weekend before [TS]

00:19:39 ◼   ► last and I don't think of myself as a [TS]

00:19:41 ◼   ► cat person i'm not anti cat as much as [TS]

00:19:45 ◼   ► it might sound like I am but I i under [TS]

00:19:47 ◼   ► stand that as a not active pet person [TS]

00:19:50 ◼   ► it's a big step to get an animal and [TS]

00:19:52 ◼   ► bring it in the house yeah and look at [TS]

00:19:55 ◼   ► that cat that's midget that is really an [TS]

00:19:59 ◼   ► extraordinary face [TS]

00:20:00 ◼   ► yeah it's got a little dirty tone and [TS]

00:20:03 ◼   ► that is a Persian cat that had just been [TS]

00:20:05 ◼   ► shaved except for its head and basically [TS]

00:20:08 ◼   ► i was at these peoples house and I was [TS]

00:20:09 ◼   ► kind of avoiding my family and I looked [TS]

00:20:11 ◼   ► out the front window and I saw something [TS]

00:20:13 ◼   ► that looked like a teacup lion up front [TS]

00:20:16 ◼   ► it was so tiny and so cute and so weird [TS]

00:20:19 ◼   ► and so looking like it was near death [TS]

00:20:20 ◼   ► and i instantly bonded with midget who [TS]

00:20:24 ◼   ► is you see in the caption i'm referring [TS]

00:20:26 ◼   ► to here is the world's most interesting [TS]

00:20:27 ◼   ► cat midget lets you hold her and she [TS]

00:20:31 ◼   ► licks you because you can't put your [TS]

00:20:33 ◼   ► tongue back in your mouth and he [TS]

00:20:34 ◼   ► shouldn't girl electrical from but I I I [TS]

00:20:38 ◼   ► didn't want to say this in front of my [TS]

00:20:39 ◼   ► family but like I was like I want this [TS]

00:20:42 ◼   ► cat likes you ever decide cuz these [TS]

00:20:44 ◼   ► people had two dogs and three cats and I [TS]

00:20:46 ◼   ► was like if you ever want to unload this [TS]

00:20:47 ◼   ► cat you know let's talk [TS]

00:20:50 ◼   ► yes so there are some potential [TS]

00:20:52 ◼   ► high-level talks going on about maybe [TS]

00:20:55 ◼   ► bring midget into our life is pretty old [TS]

00:20:57 ◼   ► but look at that face [TS]

00:20:59 ◼   ► it's a great face yeah it's a great face [TS]

00:21:01 ◼   ► it's a very you know yeah it's over it's [TS]

00:21:04 ◼   ► a it's over used to describe a creature [TS]

00:21:07 ◼   ► like that as Muppet like but it is very [TS]

00:21:09 ◼   ► Muppet like a hundred percent it looks [TS]

00:21:13 ◼   ► like it's jim henson project [TS]

00:21:14 ◼   ► yep yep yep it is something that they [TS]

00:21:16 ◼   ► modeled Muppets after but i know that [TS]

00:21:18 ◼   ► feeling of seeing a little creature and [TS]

00:21:21 ◼   ► I want your cat and saying like oh this [TS]

00:21:24 ◼   ► creature belongs with me because it's [TS]

00:21:27 ◼   ► pretty cool first knowledge on [TS]

00:21:28 ◼   ► everything you're describing you kind of [TS]

00:21:29 ◼   ► want an animal and this exactly the kind [TS]

00:21:31 ◼   ► of thing somebody who doesn't own pets [TS]

00:21:32 ◼   ► would say excuse me companion on pets [TS]

00:21:34 ◼   ► would say is is that is that it's [TS]

00:21:37 ◼   ► pre-qualified like I know right I know [TS]

00:21:39 ◼   ► this is a cool cat [TS]

00:21:41 ◼   ► Yeah right right if you just use driving [TS]

00:21:43 ◼   ► to trader joes and somebody's a free [TS]

00:21:44 ◼   ► sign means you don't know what you're in [TS]

00:21:45 ◼   ► for [TS]

00:21:46 ◼   ► that's right get pretty idea what you're [TS]

00:21:48 ◼   ► in for but you know but in this case [TS]

00:21:50 ◼   ► this is a pre-qualified cool cat that [TS]

00:21:52 ◼   ► likes to lick you how cute is that [TS]

00:21:55 ◼   ► well and the the problem with a with [TS]

00:21:57 ◼   ► cats for me is that [TS]

00:21:59 ◼   ► you know the the kitten does not denote [TS]

00:22:04 ◼   ► the cat haha oh oh my goodness if you [TS]

00:22:08 ◼   ► know what I'm saying I oh I think that's [TS]

00:22:11 ◼   ► true i think that's true it's a species [TS]

00:22:13 ◼   ► beyond beyond that species i think [TS]

00:22:14 ◼   ► that's the thing the kitchen does not [TS]

00:22:16 ◼   ► denote the cat [TS]

00:22:17 ◼   ► yeah and so I have seen a lot of cute [TS]

00:22:21 ◼   ► kittens that became pretty uncute cats [TS]

00:22:25 ◼   ► and I i would like if I'm going to look [TS]

00:22:29 ◼   ► at a little face all the time and have [TS]

00:22:32 ◼   ► that little face look up at me [TS]

00:22:34 ◼   ► pleadingly one thing its whiskers and [TS]

00:22:39 ◼   ► that little face greet me every morning [TS]

00:22:41 ◼   ► I would like to like that face I do not [TS]

00:22:44 ◼   ► want to face that that that I would not [TS]

00:22:49 ◼   ► choose and when you choose a kitten [TS]

00:22:52 ◼   ► you're like oh Babu and then turns into [TS]

00:22:56 ◼   ► this sort of grotesquerie but it's like [TS]

00:23:00 ◼   ► no you know what i mean like you you can [TS]

00:23:02 ◼   ► there's nature and there's nurture let's [TS]

00:23:04 ◼   ► be honest there's only so much you can [TS]

00:23:06 ◼   ► do to make it to you know to make a cap [TS]

00:23:10 ◼   ► that is destined to be a jerk into into [TS]

00:23:15 ◼   ► a good a good pal you know it only when [TS]

00:23:18 ◼   ► you get a kid [TS]

00:23:19 ◼   ► there's a lot of biological stuff going [TS]

00:23:21 ◼   ► on where you feel a certain you feel [TS]

00:23:23 ◼   ► compelled to try and move things around [TS]

00:23:26 ◼   ► your schedule to make sure it doesn't [TS]

00:23:27 ◼   ► die [TS]

00:23:28 ◼   ► yes like with a cat i don't i think for [TS]

00:23:30 ◼   ► some people like that i know i would [TS]

00:23:32 ◼   ► have to manufacture a lot there are [TS]

00:23:35 ◼   ► points when I have to manufacture a lot [TS]

00:23:37 ◼   ► of care not that not only sound uncaring [TS]

00:23:39 ◼   ► I'm trying to be realistic [TS]

00:23:40 ◼   ► it's like those idiots to go out and buy [TS]

00:23:42 ◼   ► an Easter Bunny or a turtle or something [TS]

00:23:43 ◼   ► have no idea what they're getting into [TS]

00:23:45 ◼   ► you know what i mean that's that's the [TS]

00:23:46 ◼   ► trouble ninja turtles have what they [TS]

00:23:49 ◼   ► have they've got the they've got the [TS]

00:23:51 ◼   ► well was stuff you get from a bad meat [TS]

00:23:54 ◼   ► oh good for trichinosis know it's pork i [TS]

00:23:58 ◼   ► think but you know if the one they get [TS]

00:23:59 ◼   ► the Salmonella you get someone from a [TS]

00:24:01 ◼   ► turtle [TS]

00:24:01 ◼   ► I thought that was from chickens and [TS]

00:24:03 ◼   ► eggs I could have a pet chicken i would [TS]

00:24:04 ◼   ► enjoy these people these people also [TS]

00:24:06 ◼   ► chickens and therefore chickens at the [TS]

00:24:08 ◼   ► house that they did they sound like [TS]

00:24:09 ◼   ► chicken owners [TS]

00:24:10 ◼   ► hi I'm I do not [TS]

00:24:14 ◼   ► I you know I had a cat after Lewis I [TS]

00:24:19 ◼   ► tried to replace Luis with another cat [TS]

00:24:22 ◼   ► and all these cats you know they come to [TS]

00:24:25 ◼   ► me you know by hook or by crook I don't [TS]

00:24:29 ◼   ► know it's not like I go to the pound and [TS]

00:24:31 ◼   ► choose cats but like cats show up and I [TS]

00:24:34 ◼   ► and a second cat arrived and i think it [TS]

00:24:37 ◼   ► was that somebody was trying to somebody [TS]

00:24:39 ◼   ► was trying to make my my pain over Lewis [TS]

00:24:42 ◼   ► go away [TS]

00:24:43 ◼   ► ok and so this second cat arrived and [TS]

00:24:47 ◼   ► the second cat was ok but I think had [TS]

00:24:53 ◼   ► been weaned too early or incorrectly you [TS]

00:24:58 ◼   ► know you can be weaned incorrectly I [TS]

00:25:00 ◼   ► mean people like that all the time just [TS]

00:25:02 ◼   ► got torn away little too just like clip [TS]

00:25:04 ◼   ► hey i was using that wait a minute [TS]

00:25:08 ◼   ► and so this catches didn't you know and [TS]

00:25:13 ◼   ► and overtime my good friend Eric course [TS]

00:25:17 ◼   ► and bass player the long winters would [TS]

00:25:20 ◼   ► come around in the and eric and the cat [TS]

00:25:22 ◼   ► had a good rapport and then I was going [TS]

00:25:25 ◼   ► out of town as I care if you want to [TS]

00:25:26 ◼   ► watch the cat he was like yeah and then [TS]

00:25:29 ◼   ► I just never went back and got the cat [TS]

00:25:31 ◼   ► that sounds like that sounds like a nice [TS]

00:25:33 ◼   ► nice way for that and out [TS]

00:25:35 ◼   ► yeah and I think Eric and the cat still [TS]

00:25:37 ◼   ► have a good relationship and and our [TS]

00:25:39 ◼   ► clothes and and I never have to see the [TS]

00:25:42 ◼   ► cat and and we had everybody wins [TS]

00:25:45 ◼   ► but I mean I lived with that cat for for [TS]

00:25:48 ◼   ► a year maybe [TS]

00:25:49 ◼   ► Wow with no with a never really feel I [TS]

00:25:52 ◼   ► mean we were sharing a space together [TS]

00:25:54 ◼   ► but we were not sharing a place together [TS]

00:25:57 ◼   ► oh yeah [TS]

00:26:03 ◼   ► the rotten milk in my coffee is really [TS]

00:26:06 ◼   ► it's really making me sentimental yeah [TS]

00:26:10 ◼   ► well I who knows who knows what's [TS]

00:26:12 ◼   ► causing that I remember a job I had one [TS]

00:26:14 ◼   ► time hearing on Monday morning I i hear [TS]

00:26:17 ◼   ► a a man scream down the hallway and we [TS]

00:26:21 ◼   ► all gathered round because he was the [TS]

00:26:22 ◼   ► least intelligent people working there [TS]

00:26:23 ◼   ► and he got himself a fresh cup of coffee [TS]

00:26:26 ◼   ► with some cream in it but he erroneously [TS]

00:26:28 ◼   ► grabbed the coffee from friday that was [TS]

00:26:33 ◼   ► on his desk [TS]

00:26:34 ◼   ► no fridays coffee yet fridays coffee [TS]

00:26:36 ◼   ► took a big slug of it and had fried ice [TS]

00:26:38 ◼   ► cream in it and he was a sad little man [TS]

00:26:41 ◼   ► oh it's been sitting on the counter the [TS]

00:26:42 ◼   ► whole time yeah that's not even in the [TS]

00:26:44 ◼   ► fridge that's bad [TS]

00:26:46 ◼   ► blue did I ever tell you about the time [TS]

00:26:50 ◼   ► I left a cup of coffee in the in the [TS]

00:26:53 ◼   ► garden [TS]

00:26:54 ◼   ► no I left a cup of coffee in the garden [TS]

00:26:56 ◼   ► and I came back a couple of days later [TS]

00:26:59 ◼   ► and a bird had fallen into it and I [TS]

00:27:06 ◼   ► don't know how or why I don't know why [TS]

00:27:10 ◼   ► she swallowed a fly but she died in my [TS]

00:27:16 ◼   ► coffee cup was it wasn't a cup that you [TS]

00:27:19 ◼   ► liked [TS]

00:27:19 ◼   ► well i mean i still use the cup good get [TS]

00:27:23 ◼   ► you later thank you you honor the bird [TS]

00:27:25 ◼   ► but i had to you know on under the bird [TS]

00:27:28 ◼   ► honor the bird story like what i did was [TS]

00:27:31 ◼   ► i I washed out the cup and that was no [TS]

00:27:33 ◼   ► easy thing I dumped the coffee I dumped [TS]

00:27:37 ◼   ► the Moldy coffee bird in the yard waste [TS]

00:27:44 ◼   ► maybe the compost i'm not sure which i'm [TS]

00:27:47 ◼   ► not sure which been which of Seattle's [TS]

00:27:49 ◼   ► many bins got the Moldy coffee bird but [TS]

00:27:53 ◼   ► then I went in I gave it a give the cup [TS]

00:27:54 ◼   ► of good scrub and then I put it back in [TS]

00:27:56 ◼   ► rotation and now I swear to you I could [TS]

00:27:59 ◼   ► not tell you which one it was I could be [TS]

00:28:00 ◼   ► drinking out of it now [TS]

00:28:01 ◼   ► yeah that's the dream mhm mhm butBut [TS]

00:28:05 ◼   ► trying to picture what was happening in [TS]

00:28:06 ◼   ► a bird's life was like huh look at that [TS]

00:28:09 ◼   ► I wonder what that is i'm gonna go perch [TS]

00:28:12 ◼   ► on the edges of that mug [TS]

00:28:14 ◼   ► yeah and then like birds totally lose [TS]

00:28:16 ◼   ► our footing how did the bird end up in [TS]

00:28:18 ◼   ► the I don't know he had a little bit [TS]

00:28:21 ◼   ► curious right drop down and then [TS]

00:28:23 ◼   ► couldn't get out [TS]

00:28:25 ◼   ► yeah whatever I was like a little bird I [TS]

00:28:28 ◼   ► mean little enough to fall into a beer [TS]

00:28:30 ◼   ► style you wouldn't want you just say I [TS]

00:28:31 ◼   ► want to state the obvious but you would [TS]

00:28:33 ◼   ► not want that to be a crow [TS]

00:28:35 ◼   ► no it wasn't an eagle to drink got a [TS]

00:28:38 ◼   ► pretty big cups but uh but not as a [TS]

00:28:41 ◼   ► brother would fit in a cup but it's you [TS]

00:28:44 ◼   ► know there are a few there are a few [TS]

00:28:45 ◼   ► private tragedies that I've had [TS]

00:28:48 ◼   ► involving things creatures over the [TS]

00:28:51 ◼   ► years / / palma almost 50 years in may [TS]

00:28:56 ◼   ► in American life over for me and a few [TS]

00:29:00 ◼   ► of them have just have always remained [TS]

00:29:01 ◼   ► private right there just there a few [TS]

00:29:02 ◼   ► those few times when you come upon a you [TS]

00:29:05 ◼   ► come upon a noble stag in the forest and [TS]

00:29:09 ◼   ► you felt him with a handmade bow and [TS]

00:29:12 ◼   ► arrow [TS]

00:29:13 ◼   ► you never talk about those things with [TS]

00:29:15 ◼   ► anyone else no I never got a chance to [TS]

00:29:17 ◼   ► put his head in your lap no it's just [TS]

00:29:19 ◼   ► it's just the thing that doesn't come up [TS]

00:29:20 ◼   ► in conversation and if you're sitting at [TS]

00:29:21 ◼   ► a party and somebody says have you ever [TS]

00:29:23 ◼   ► felt this tag you just kind of don't [TS]

00:29:25 ◼   ► answer [TS]

00:29:26 ◼   ► look out the window and just sort of [TS]

00:29:28 ◼   ► it's not a story that you want to tell [TS]

00:29:29 ◼   ► we've we've had two recently deal with [TS]

00:29:32 ◼   ► the the state of little things lately [TS]

00:29:36 ◼   ► and it's hard it's hard [TS]

00:29:38 ◼   ► my daughter found a a robin's egg and [TS]

00:29:41 ◼   ► put it back in the nest about a month [TS]

00:29:42 ◼   ► ago and she's really excited cause it [TS]

00:29:44 ◼   ► still hasn't hatched [TS]

00:29:46 ◼   ► haha oh and what she's saying you know [TS]

00:29:49 ◼   ► she's like she's pretty sure it takes at [TS]

00:29:50 ◼   ► least a month for an egg to hatch and I [TS]

00:29:51 ◼   ► was like I you know what do you say we I [TS]

00:29:53 ◼   ► mean you know you know she's if it was [TS]

00:29:56 ◼   ► just any any egg in a nest i would say [TS]

00:29:59 ◼   ► well you know there's probably fucking [TS]

00:30:00 ◼   ► dead but like she has some ownership [TS]

00:30:02 ◼   ► some investment in that it's a project [TS]

00:30:04 ◼   ► she rescued [TS]

00:30:05 ◼   ► yeah and then the other day we went to [TS]

00:30:08 ◼   ► the garage to check the mail and there [TS]

00:30:10 ◼   ► was a mouse in a glue trap struggling [TS]

00:30:12 ◼   ► row [TS]

00:30:14 ◼   ► yeah and I mean I i I'm I'm I don't mind [TS]

00:30:17 ◼   ► seeing my sleep I did when I was a kid [TS]

00:30:19 ◼   ► but a key and animals struggling in a [TS]

00:30:21 ◼   ► glue trap to where it has flipped a foot [TS]

00:30:23 ◼   ► from where the trap had been it was [TS]

00:30:25 ◼   ► really tiny it was like maybe an inch [TS]

00:30:26 ◼   ► and a half [TS]

00:30:27 ◼   ► long and that's no good no not she's [TS]

00:30:29 ◼   ► probably scarred but it's like what am I [TS]

00:30:31 ◼   ► going to say it's either that or have a [TS]

00:30:32 ◼   ► garage full of mice your pic yeah right [TS]

00:30:34 ◼   ► one things you know things to die mean [TS]

00:30:36 ◼   ► the thing with the egg I don't know [TS]

00:30:38 ◼   ► where you guys are on the Santa Claus [TS]

00:30:39 ◼   ► continuum but I think you just go up [TS]

00:30:42 ◼   ► there in the night he grabbed that egg [TS]

00:30:43 ◼   ► you get rid of it that was perfect [TS]

00:30:45 ◼   ► burden that when she looks for you said [TS]

00:30:47 ◼   ► like oh the bird has influenced I used [TS]

00:30:50 ◼   ► to be really good at that I used to be [TS]

00:30:51 ◼   ► good at like really basic [TS]

00:30:52 ◼   ► sleight-of-hand to make her think things [TS]

00:30:54 ◼   ► are magic this the Santa Claus continuum [TS]

00:30:56 ◼   ► is tough right now because I i don't [TS]

00:30:59 ◼   ► know i could feel I think we're at that [TS]

00:31:00 ◼   ► age where at that age where she's [TS]

00:31:02 ◼   ► probably got some pretty specific [TS]

00:31:04 ◼   ► concerns [TS]

00:31:05 ◼   ► it's probably been some dickhead at [TS]

00:31:07 ◼   ► school that's already spoiled it for her [TS]

00:31:09 ◼   ► there's always one but uh where do you [TS]

00:31:12 ◼   ► stand on Santa if you even if you're [TS]

00:31:15 ◼   ► comfortable saying um you know my i do [TS]

00:31:20 ◼   ► not have a I don't have any political [TS]

00:31:21 ◼   ► feelings about Santa and I don't have [TS]

00:31:25 ◼   ► you know i don't have a stand on the [TS]

00:31:30 ◼   ► Santa you don't have like a hum a [TS]

00:31:33 ◼   ► moralistic stake in the ground about the [TS]

00:31:34 ◼   ► consequences of Santa right like some [TS]

00:31:37 ◼   ► people have very strong feelings about [TS]

00:31:38 ◼   ► say they do they do and I don't you know [TS]

00:31:40 ◼   ► i'm not i'm not here saying like I will [TS]

00:31:42 ◼   ► never lie to my child I used to think [TS]

00:31:45 ◼   ► that and if you say Santa is real then [TS]

00:31:48 ◼   ► you're just setting them up for a [TS]

00:31:49 ◼   ► lifetime of not trusting people like I [TS]

00:31:52 ◼   ► understand that logic heading causing a [TS]

00:31:54 ◼   ► child to be born does that even better [TS]

00:31:56 ◼   ► exactly but like I don't have that stand [TS]

00:31:59 ◼   ► but nor am I sitting on my like like my [TS]

00:32:04 ◼   ► my gilded tortoise or my magic footstool [TS]

00:32:07 ◼   ► and saying the magic of Santa and [TS]

00:32:11 ◼   ► Christmas something that I wouldn't deny [TS]

00:32:12 ◼   ► my child and I didn't you know that lab [TS]

00:32:15 ◼   ► lab lab like yeah I guess the magic of [TS]

00:32:17 ◼   ► Christmas sure [TS]

00:32:20 ◼   ► thus far Santa to her is just one in a [TS]

00:32:28 ◼   ► one-of-a palapa liave bearded men who [TS]

00:32:32 ◼   ► wear all red because her father is one [TS]

00:32:36 ◼   ► of those two you know like Slater jolly [TS]

00:32:38 ◼   ► bearded guys in [TS]

00:32:40 ◼   ► funny hats who i'm not even sure she [TS]

00:32:43 ◼   ► maybe she has made entirely made the [TS]

00:32:45 ◼   ► connection that Santa brings presents [TS]

00:32:49 ◼   ► she said she doesn't talk about [TS]

00:32:51 ◼   ► Christmas I mean honestly the other day [TS]

00:32:54 ◼   ► she was walking around the house with a [TS]

00:32:55 ◼   ► little Christmas present in her hand and [TS]

00:32:58 ◼   ► by little I mean a size of a matchbox [TS]

00:32:59 ◼   ► and I said where did you find that and [TS]

00:33:05 ◼   ► she said it was over there on the dining [TS]

00:33:09 ◼   ► room table with the Christmas [TS]

00:33:11 ◼   ► decorations and I looked and on my [TS]

00:33:15 ◼   ► dining room table there is still a an [TS]

00:33:18 ◼   ► advent calendar a crash and a stuffed [TS]

00:33:22 ◼   ► Santa Claus that apparently had a couple [TS]

00:33:25 ◼   ► of small presence at his feet [TS]

00:33:27 ◼   ► that's been there since Christmas it's [TS]

00:33:30 ◼   ► been there the whole time and I just [TS]

00:33:32 ◼   ► stopped seeing it with my eyes though [TS]

00:33:34 ◼   ► because i had other things going on [TS]

00:33:39 ◼   ► uh-huh and I was like hmm i'm not sure [TS]

00:33:42 ◼   ► what I mean I'm pretty sure that that [TS]

00:33:46 ◼   ► doesn't say amazing things about me as a [TS]

00:33:51 ◼   ► as like a is like a at idea or a person [TS]

00:33:57 ◼   ► who is living a particularly organized [TS]

00:33:59 ◼   ► life and then I went over to the [TS]

00:34:00 ◼   ► fireplace to make sure that the [TS]

00:34:01 ◼   ► stockings were still hanging and they [TS]

00:34:03 ◼   ► weren't but she found a present a [TS]

00:34:07 ◼   ► Christmas present and was carrying it [TS]

00:34:09 ◼   ► around and and and then she like [TS]

00:34:12 ◼   ► attached it to a fork somehow and was [TS]

00:34:15 ◼   ► calling it a piece of cake [TS]

00:34:16 ◼   ► so she was off on her own thing but but [TS]

00:34:21 ◼   ► I had I had a real moment of pause [TS]

00:34:22 ◼   ► realizing that I've been looking at an [TS]

00:34:24 ◼   ► advent calendar for six months and had [TS]

00:34:28 ◼   ► just and it had just turned into another [TS]

00:34:30 ◼   ► piece of another sort of little piece of [TS]

00:34:34 ◼   ► flotsam I mean it's not a small thing [TS]

00:34:37 ◼   ► it's nothing big [TS]

00:34:38 ◼   ► now I know but like you get me thinking [TS]

00:34:40 ◼   ► I just who will be so convenient if we [TS]

00:34:44 ◼   ► could choose and fully understand our [TS]

00:34:47 ◼   ► own forms of madness but then I guess [TS]

00:34:49 ◼   ► that would be madness part part part of [TS]

00:34:50 ◼   ► what makes it madness is we either don't [TS]

00:34:52 ◼   ► know about it or don't understand [TS]

00:34:54 ◼   ► and it was the madness that we think we [TS]

00:34:56 ◼   ► know about are comfortable with and [TS]

00:34:57 ◼   ► that's crazy enough but then the other [TS]

00:34:59 ◼   ► stuff we were like hmm i wonder if I'm [TS]

00:35:01 ◼   ► out of my mind [TS]

00:35:02 ◼   ► mm and I I think that sometimes we're [TS]

00:35:05 ◼   ► all and then look for some reason have [TS]

00:35:06 ◼   ► you ever seen a movie called Synecdoche [TS]

00:35:07 ◼   ► New York yes which I find a very [TS]

00:35:10 ◼   ► effective movie but I talked about this [TS]

00:35:13 ◼   ► and another show but like that movie had [TS]

00:35:15 ◼   ► a huge impact on me because I realize [TS]

00:35:17 ◼   ► like how much of what [TS]

00:35:18 ◼   ► kayden it goes through in that movie I [TS]

00:35:21 ◼   ► felt feels like something that I thought [TS]

00:35:23 ◼   ► was peculiar to me of like suddenly [TS]

00:35:25 ◼   ► going oh no that actually happened 10 [TS]

00:35:27 ◼   ► years ago and you're not exactly crazy [TS]

00:35:29 ◼   ► don't exactly think that it's whatever [TS]

00:35:31 ◼   ► 1996 now or something but you could [TS]

00:35:33 ◼   ► easily go like I'm in my case like we [TS]

00:35:36 ◼   ► are little diner down the street that [TS]

00:35:37 ◼   ► you've been to they give out a little [TS]

00:35:39 ◼   ► stick-on calendar [TS]

00:35:41 ◼   ► you know those little calendars with a [TS]

00:35:42 ◼   ► little tear off calendar yeah and i have [TS]

00:35:44 ◼   ► one of those over my my clothing [TS]

00:35:46 ◼   ► dressing area from 2012 and it didn't [TS]

00:35:50 ◼   ► occur to me that like not only had I not [TS]

00:35:53 ◼   ► taking this down since july two thousand [TS]

00:35:55 ◼   ► twelve but I hadn't bothered to rip it [TS]

00:35:56 ◼   ► off since something like August 2012 [TS]

00:35:58 ◼   ► mhm and just kept sitting there and then [TS]

00:36:00 ◼   ► that started dogging me like what why [TS]

00:36:02 ◼   ► why is this here why did I why am i not [TS]

00:36:04 ◼   ► changing this why am i why is this still [TS]

00:36:06 ◼   ► here and why has it not bothered me [TS]

00:36:08 ◼   ► until three years later [TS]

00:36:10 ◼   ► why did you notice it three years later [TS]

00:36:12 ◼   ► I mean if I i have to say like if that [TS]

00:36:15 ◼   ► little Christmas present hadn't gotten [TS]

00:36:16 ◼   ► repurposed as a piece of cake [TS]

00:36:18 ◼   ► yeah I'm not sure whether I would have [TS]

00:36:20 ◼   ► noticed these Christmas decorations [TS]

00:36:21 ◼   ► until it was time to decorate for [TS]

00:36:23 ◼   ► Christmas and I was like oh look look we [TS]

00:36:27 ◼   ► already have a little still life here [TS]

00:36:28 ◼   ► that's been here the entire time you got [TS]

00:36:31 ◼   ► a little nativity just sitting there huh [TS]

00:36:33 ◼   ► yeah Don crash my wife cause a crash [TS]

00:36:35 ◼   ► yeah I mean it's not I mean know what [TS]

00:36:39 ◼   ► what what what Christmas decorations are [TS]

00:36:42 ◼   ► to me I guess is like another it's [TS]

00:36:46 ◼   ► another couple of bins of sentimental [TS]

00:36:49 ◼   ► sentimental jetsam stuff that I've [TS]

00:36:53 ◼   ► looked at my whole life that I go like I [TS]

00:36:55 ◼   ► remember when that advent calendar [TS]

00:36:58 ◼   ► really mattered to me and every day I [TS]

00:37:02 ◼   ► couldn't wait to open another little [TS]

00:37:04 ◼   ► door [TS]

00:37:04 ◼   ► uh-huh in the in the [TS]

00:37:06 ◼   ► endless march to christmas i was like [TS]

00:37:10 ◼   ► the longest month ever just like oh it [TS]

00:37:13 ◼   ► is the 14th are you kidding me come on [TS]

00:37:15 ◼   ► and you open the little door and there's [TS]

00:37:17 ◼   ► a little you know and it's a advent [TS]

00:37:19 ◼   ► calendar from Germany that was made in [TS]

00:37:22 ◼   ► 1954 and so there's a little boy and [TS]

00:37:25 ◼   ► later hosen behind the door and he's you [TS]

00:37:28 ◼   ► know and he's holding up sugar plum you [TS]

00:37:31 ◼   ► go [TS]

00:37:32 ◼   ► I don't know what any of these I don't [TS]

00:37:33 ◼   ► know what any of this imagery means and [TS]

00:37:35 ◼   ► I don't know why germany in the fifties [TS]

00:37:38 ◼   ► so completely colonized my childhood [TS]

00:37:42 ◼   ► Christmas right like I knew the lyrics [TS]

00:37:45 ◼   ► to o Tannenbaum and never understood [TS]

00:37:48 ◼   ► never it made the connection that that [TS]

00:37:51 ◼   ► was the same song as o Christmas tree [TS]

00:37:52 ◼   ► alright same school why did the Germans [TS]

00:37:55 ◼   ► have such a lock on on on Christmas [TS]

00:37:58 ◼   ► particularly post-war Germany where [TS]

00:38:01 ◼   ► would you know made in west germany [TS]

00:38:02 ◼   ► that's what that says Christmas to me [TS]

00:38:04 ◼   ► made in west germany feels more [TS]

00:38:06 ◼   ► authentic it very much does right to [TS]

00:38:09 ◼   ► feel the old country so i don't know [TS]

00:38:13 ◼   ► so but but in in terms of like Santa and [TS]

00:38:16 ◼   ► the tree and the and the business and [TS]

00:38:19 ◼   ► whether or not whether or not we say [TS]

00:38:21 ◼   ► like Santa's coming down the chimney so [TS]

00:38:24 ◼   ► get in your room like I I honestly have [TS]

00:38:27 ◼   ► not picked aside and I feel like I feel [TS]

00:38:31 ◼   ► like not picking aside um my daughter is [TS]

00:38:34 ◼   ► already knows that I am pretty [TS]

00:38:37 ◼   ► half-hearted about most American [TS]

00:38:42 ◼   ► traditions most you know like just most [TS]

00:38:45 ◼   ► sort of like holidays like a big [TS]

00:38:47 ◼   ► celebrator of holidays not at all [TS]

00:38:49 ◼   ► yeah I feel bad about on the same way so [TS]

00:38:51 ◼   ► it's like here comes easter boy we had [TS]

00:38:54 ◼   ► some eggs you don't feel compelled like [TS]

00:38:56 ◼   ► we just had what we had the fourth of [TS]

00:38:57 ◼   ► July before that we had excuse me [TS]

00:38:59 ◼   ► Independence Day couple months ago we [TS]

00:39:01 ◼   ► had memorial day you know November [TS]

00:39:03 ◼   ► veterans day and it's like I i don't i [TS]

00:39:06 ◼   ► don't feel compelled to explain those [TS]

00:39:08 ◼   ► distinctions and why they're special [TS]

00:39:10 ◼   ► it's really mostly a day off and I feel [TS]

00:39:12 ◼   ► bad about that [TS]

00:39:13 ◼   ► well yeah and I mean it's a good way to [TS]

00:39:16 ◼   ► mark your your your progress [TS]

00:39:19 ◼   ► a year so it's already the fourth of [TS]

00:39:23 ◼   ► July well let's go [TS]

00:39:25 ◼   ► hey but I'm you know wow [TS]

00:39:29 ◼   ► when when when that when we were before [TS]

00:39:33 ◼   ► before the baby was born all the [TS]

00:39:36 ◼   ► conversations that we had with [TS]

00:39:37 ◼   ► pediatricians and with with the all the [TS]

00:39:40 ◼   ► books that we read about how to raise a [TS]

00:39:42 ◼   ► baby you know he you know there's a baby [TS]

00:39:45 ◼   ► on the way and so everybody runs to the [TS]

00:39:46 ◼   ► library and gets all the how to raise a [TS]

00:39:48 ◼   ► baby books you study them and they're [TS]

00:39:51 ◼   ► all contradictory and and none of them [TS]

00:39:53 ◼   ► make sense really and and some of them [TS]

00:39:58 ◼   ► make it seem like this is a matter of [TS]

00:40:01 ◼   ► desperate importance and some of them [TS]

00:40:03 ◼   ► make it seem like oh it'll be fine but [TS]

00:40:07 ◼   ► they all they all kind of agreed and [TS]

00:40:09 ◼   ► people lectured me a lot about routine [TS]

00:40:11 ◼   ► children love routine they want they [TS]

00:40:14 ◼   ► want routine they want the same things [TS]

00:40:16 ◼   ► at the same time and that gives them [TS]

00:40:17 ◼   ► that gives them a feeling of safety and [TS]

00:40:20 ◼   ► it you know it makes them feel secure [TS]

00:40:21 ◼   ► and that is kind of the nurturing life [TS]

00:40:24 ◼   ► that they need to grow up to be [TS]

00:40:27 ◼   ► productive and healthy members of the [TS]

00:40:31 ◼   ► banking community and i remember reading [TS]

00:40:36 ◼   ► those books and talking to those [TS]

00:40:37 ◼   ► pediatricians and saying I do not have [TS]

00:40:39 ◼   ► any kind of routine or any capability of [TS]

00:40:42 ◼   ► maintaining a routine so i have two [TS]

00:40:47 ◼   ► choices i can either accept your framing [TS]

00:40:51 ◼   ► in which case I'm i already fear for my [TS]

00:40:56 ◼   ► unborn child's future [TS]

00:40:59 ◼   ► almost almost seems not to put too fine [TS]

00:41:01 ◼   ► a point on it almost seems doomed doomed [TS]

00:41:03 ◼   ► right side it's something you've if it's [TS]

00:41:05 ◼   ► something that you've got to learn from [TS]

00:41:06 ◼   ► scratch it's gonna be pretty tough to do [TS]

00:41:08 ◼   ► on a day-to-day basis [TS]

00:41:09 ◼   ► yeah right i have never I mean some [TS]

00:41:12 ◼   ► weeks i make coffee every morning some [TS]

00:41:14 ◼   ► weeks the coffee mold takes over the [TS]

00:41:17 ◼   ► entire like northeast corner of the [TS]

00:41:19 ◼   ► house and and I don't have a it's [TS]

00:41:23 ◼   ► inexplicable to me why that's true and [TS]

00:41:26 ◼   ► you know i have tried to take vitamins [TS]

00:41:29 ◼   ► and I have made it [TS]

00:41:31 ◼   ► 10 days before I just stopped taking [TS]

00:41:35 ◼   ► vitamins i just stopped remembering them [TS]

00:41:38 ◼   ► i did the seven-minute workout for about [TS]

00:41:42 ◼   ► I would I would go as far as to say 14 [TS]

00:41:44 ◼   ► days I did the seven-minute workout [TS]

00:41:46 ◼   ► before one day I didn't and that was it [TS]

00:41:49 ◼   ► and that was the end didn't just bounce [TS]

00:41:51 ◼   ► back the next day I just was just like [TS]

00:41:53 ◼   ► oh oh I missed a day [TS]

00:41:55 ◼   ► let's get back on the train like I have [TS]

00:41:57 ◼   ► never successfully gotten back on the [TS]

00:41:59 ◼   ► train I get off the train [TS]

00:42:01 ◼   ► often in the woods and then I'm [TS]

00:42:04 ◼   ► bushwhackin again and that's my natural [TS]

00:42:06 ◼   ► state so it what I chose to do was [TS]

00:42:09 ◼   ► refused to accept the idea that a child [TS]

00:42:14 ◼   ► without a child will refuse to accept [TS]

00:42:17 ◼   ► the idea that a child needs routine and [TS]

00:42:21 ◼   ► instead like found maybe it like a [TS]

00:42:24 ◼   ► different a different layer of routine [TS]

00:42:31 ◼   ► yeah i mean like that's like I see her [TS]

00:42:33 ◼   ► every day like that is our routine it's [TS]

00:42:36 ◼   ► you know that I'm sorry I don't mean to [TS]

00:42:37 ◼   ► be going off here but like first of all [TS]

00:42:40 ◼   ► there's a lot of great stuff in books [TS]

00:42:42 ◼   ► there's a lot of great advice that [TS]

00:42:42 ◼   ► exists in the world [TS]

00:42:44 ◼   ► the trouble is that the advice that you [TS]

00:42:45 ◼   ► get from people who are professionals [TS]

00:42:48 ◼   ► and people who are professionals [TS]

00:42:49 ◼   ► i think is mostly advice that is [TS]

00:42:51 ◼   ► tendered to make you think better of [TS]

00:42:53 ◼   ► them and to make them feel good about [TS]

00:42:55 ◼   ► the decisions they've made whether or [TS]

00:42:57 ◼   ► not they're particularly great but [TS]

00:42:58 ◼   ► whatever version they tell you of their [TS]

00:43:00 ◼   ► life which is usually put down the most [TS]

00:43:01 ◼   ► strict possible way like it's always [TS]

00:43:03 ◼   ► going to be this way and that's how I've [TS]

00:43:05 ◼   ► had such success like that's the and [TS]

00:43:08 ◼   ► then you get books and the thing is for [TS]

00:43:09 ◼   ► a book to be a book it has to have a big [TS]

00:43:12 ◼   ► point and then driving home all the time [TS]

00:43:13 ◼   ► and say there's going to be a [TS]

00:43:15 ◼   ► catastrophe if you don't do it this way [TS]

00:43:16 ◼   ► all the time which which is very [TS]

00:43:19 ◼   ► unrealistic and cause you just want to [TS]

00:43:21 ◼   ► go and read more books you know if [TS]

00:43:23 ◼   ► you're susceptible that kind of thing so [TS]

00:43:24 ◼   ► I mean I don't have a super strong [TS]

00:43:26 ◼   ► position on like how that shakes out to [TS]

00:43:28 ◼   ► success or not but i dunno i feel that [TS]

00:43:30 ◼   ► pressure of like you know any of these [TS]

00:43:32 ◼   ► dumb books that have you know as a [TS]

00:43:34 ◼   ► branding or marketing point have this [TS]

00:43:36 ◼   ► here's the one big thing that you need [TS]

00:43:37 ◼   ► to know in your case like it's like talk [TS]

00:43:39 ◼   ► so Kat plasmosis [TS]

00:43:41 ◼   ► yeah but in self-help books how's that [TS]

00:43:45 ◼   ► you have a plant the little uh they [TS]

00:43:47 ◼   ► plant a little seed they kept a little [TS]

00:43:50 ◼   ► seed wear something more books [TS]

00:43:51 ◼   ► yeah and like I don't know maybe I'm [TS]

00:43:53 ◼   ► just as dumb as i seem but like I think [TS]

00:43:57 ◼   ► I think there's a distinction to be made [TS]

00:43:59 ◼   ► to was the phrase you used than a [TS]

00:44:02 ◼   ► hammock banana mhm [TS]

00:44:04 ◼   ► well there's a difference between like [TS]

00:44:07 ◼   ► was aboard you use it to describe what [TS]

00:44:08 ◼   ► you're never gonna have a routine [TS]

00:44:10 ◼   ► routine like I think there's a diff [TS]

00:44:13 ◼   ► there can be important differences [TS]

00:44:14 ◼   ► between a routine and between [TS]

00:44:17 ◼   ► consistency [TS]

00:44:19 ◼   ► okay i think because here's the problem [TS]

00:44:22 ◼   ► and I think this gets to something that [TS]

00:44:24 ◼   ► people don't like talking about which is [TS]

00:44:25 ◼   ► that people like to think that if they [TS]

00:44:28 ◼   ► buy into a system and then do it doggy [TS]

00:44:31 ◼   ► Glee I eat everything will probably turn [TS]

00:44:33 ◼   ► out fine and even if it doesn't there's [TS]

00:44:35 ◼   ► probably a reason that can be fixed [TS]

00:44:37 ◼   ► because i want to do is go back to the [TS]

00:44:38 ◼   ► book and read it and like I think what [TS]

00:44:40 ◼   ► they're avoiding is the fact that you're [TS]

00:44:41 ◼   ► kind of a little fucked all the time [TS]

00:44:42 ◼   ► when you're a parent you're always [TS]

00:44:44 ◼   ► behind you're always you're always not [TS]

00:44:46 ◼   ► doing as much as you could and there is [TS]

00:44:48 ◼   ► a very natural inclination to feel like [TS]

00:44:49 ◼   ► wow I'm really not well suited for this [TS]

00:44:52 ◼   ► and so you know do you believe that or [TS]

00:44:55 ◼   ► not but like I think the the angle to [TS]

00:44:57 ◼   ► add to that that's important is that [TS]

00:44:58 ◼   ► when you think about routine vs [TS]

00:44:59 ◼   ► consistency like okay if you got a [TS]

00:45:01 ◼   ► routine that you're constantly stressing [TS]

00:45:03 ◼   ► over and that you're making your child [TS]

00:45:05 ◼   ► feel like where everything is a constant [TS]

00:45:07 ◼   ► potential catastrophe because you're not [TS]

00:45:08 ◼   ► at the bus at 90 5am like I my concern [TS]

00:45:12 ◼   ► there is that if you can do that routine [TS]

00:45:14 ◼   ► and be consistent and everybody's pretty [TS]

00:45:16 ◼   ► content with that routine that's a good [TS]

00:45:18 ◼   ► thing i think the problem is if you try [TS]

00:45:20 ◼   ► to instill something in your kid that [TS]

00:45:22 ◼   ► you don't basically have in yourself [TS]

00:45:24 ◼   ► you're setting up a lot of potential a [TS]

00:45:26 ◼   ► lot of potential disasters [TS]

00:45:28 ◼   ► whereas if you're consistent like here's [TS]

00:45:30 ◼   ► what you can consistently expect out of [TS]

00:45:31 ◼   ► me [TS]

00:45:32 ◼   ► interactive attitude and comportment and [TS]

00:45:34 ◼   ► how things importantly how things good [TS]

00:45:36 ◼   ► how I how I am when things don't go well [TS]

00:45:38 ◼   ► like that's what I want to get good at [TS]

00:45:40 ◼   ► what i want to get good at is being like [TS]

00:45:41 ◼   ► the person who handles that stuff in [TS]

00:45:43 ◼   ► stride well one right before right [TS]

00:45:47 ◼   ► before she was born [TS]

00:45:48 ◼   ► we decided that that we needed a wagon a [TS]

00:45:55 ◼   ► uh-uh [TS]

00:45:56 ◼   ► a car automotive wagon yeah because you [TS]

00:45:59 ◼   ► got to carry the you know inner tubes [TS]

00:46:01 ◼   ► and stuff or whatever it is that you do [TS]

00:46:02 ◼   ► when you're a parent and so we drove [TS]

00:46:04 ◼   ► over to mercer island which is the kind [TS]

00:46:05 ◼   ► of upscale neighborhood because somebody [TS]

00:46:07 ◼   ► was selling a passat wagon and we [TS]

00:46:11 ◼   ► arrived at the house which was a nice [TS]

00:46:12 ◼   ► sort of house out in the woods of mercer [TS]

00:46:15 ◼   ► island and there was a family their mom [TS]

00:46:19 ◼   ► and dad yo you know our age and they had [TS]

00:46:22 ◼   ► to toddler age kids 1412 I think and a [TS]

00:46:28 ◼   ► brand-new baby that was like one day old [TS]

00:46:32 ◼   ► and they were selling their prasad [TS]

00:46:35 ◼   ► because with the arrival of the third [TS]

00:46:38 ◼   ► kid they now had you gonna upgrade [TS]

00:46:40 ◼   ► yeah they now we're at suburban level of [TS]

00:46:42 ◼   ► a of card need and so they were getting [TS]

00:46:47 ◼   ► ready to get rid of the little car which [TS]

00:46:49 ◼   ► was going to be the big car for our [TS]

00:46:52 ◼   ► little family of one baby on the way and [TS]

00:46:57 ◼   ► so we were sitting around and we like to [TS]

00:46:59 ◼   ► the mother very much we're chatting and [TS]

00:47:00 ◼   ► like the dad and the kids are running [TS]

00:47:02 ◼   ► around and and the and we were [TS]

00:47:06 ◼   ► fascinated by this one day old baby like [TS]

00:47:09 ◼   ► wow look at this because we were buying [TS]

00:47:11 ◼   ► this car just a couple of days before [TS]

00:47:13 ◼   ► our daughter was do it was like that's a [TS]

00:47:16 ◼   ► brand new baby like our babies are about [TS]

00:47:18 ◼   ► the same age they're gonna be the same [TS]

00:47:20 ◼   ► age when this but our baby is born and [TS]

00:47:22 ◼   ► wow look at it's right there and the [TS]

00:47:25 ◼   ► baby was crying and fussing and we were [TS]

00:47:27 ◼   ► like so are you know is it up all night [TS]

00:47:29 ◼   ► or what's the story and the mother very [TS]

00:47:31 ◼   ► confidently said well you know this [TS]

00:47:34 ◼   ► weekend and and you know I took next [TS]

00:47:37 ◼   ► week off from work so for the next week [TS]

00:47:40 ◼   ► or so yeah we're going to be like up in [TS]

00:47:42 ◼   ► the middle of the night and stuff but [TS]

00:47:43 ◼   ► then the baby's gonna have to get on our [TS]

00:47:45 ◼   ► schedule and we were both like woe and [TS]

00:47:50 ◼   ► she just said it like so like yep and [TS]

00:47:53 ◼   ► then the baby's gonna have to you know [TS]

00:47:54 ◼   ► babes going to figure it out and it [TS]

00:47:57 ◼   ► absolutely blew our minds we do you [TS]

00:47:59 ◼   ► think it was realistic [TS]

00:48:01 ◼   ► oh I mean she had two kids yeah she was [TS]

00:48:03 ◼   ► always something and she had people over [TS]

00:48:05 ◼   ► by a car that day after she had a kid [TS]

00:48:07 ◼   ► yeah right i'm daniel that's the part [TS]

00:48:08 ◼   ► that's really telling and she was run [TS]

00:48:10 ◼   ► the show and I was just like this idea [TS]

00:48:13 ◼   ► that a one week old baby is going to get [TS]

00:48:16 ◼   ► on your schedule and you're not going to [TS]

00:48:18 ◼   ► be a slave to it it's not going to wake [TS]

00:48:21 ◼   ► you up in the middle of the night you're [TS]

00:48:22 ◼   ► gonna wake it up in the middle of the [TS]

00:48:24 ◼   ► night it was like profound you know and [TS]

00:48:28 ◼   ► incompetent in contrast like the only [TS]

00:48:31 ◼   ► thing my daughter knows for sure is that [TS]

00:48:34 ◼   ► the first day of seventh grade we are [TS]

00:48:38 ◼   ► driving to mexico in a stolen Jeep like [TS]

00:48:43 ◼   ► that's the only thing that's the only [TS]

00:48:44 ◼   ► thing on horizon the cheek account and [TS]

00:48:49 ◼   ► you know and and and so far she seems [TS]

00:48:52 ◼   ► you know she seems fine with it i'm not [TS]

00:48:54 ◼   ► sure if she believed she will ever [TS]

00:48:55 ◼   ► believe in Santa Claus or the Easter [TS]

00:48:56 ◼   ► Bunny or even know what those things are [TS]

00:48:58 ◼   ► important because she still hasn't seen [TS]

00:49:03 ◼   ► a movie we watched a couple at at your [TS]

00:49:07 ◼   ► recommendation and Hodgins [TS]

00:49:08 ◼   ► recommendation we sat down and watched a [TS]

00:49:10 ◼   ► couple of adventure times she's a little [TS]

00:49:13 ◼   ► young for adventure time she is yeah and [TS]

00:49:15 ◼   ► but i'm not i was wrong but really I was [TS]

00:49:19 ◼   ► like oh my god I'm so happy [TS]

00:49:21 ◼   ► what is going on in this mushroom trip [TS]

00:49:23 ◼   ► of a cartoon is kind of know what you [TS]

00:49:24 ◼   ► expect right [TS]

00:49:25 ◼   ► no i really i really enjoyed it and I [TS]

00:49:27 ◼   ► looked forward to the time when she was [TS]

00:49:29 ◼   ► eight years old and wants to Delft back [TS]

00:49:31 ◼   ► into adventure time and you know and and [TS]

00:49:35 ◼   ► go through that world or whatever you [TS]

00:49:37 ◼   ► were you watching it and if i'm [TS]

00:49:39 ◼   ► understanding you're watching it too [TS]

00:49:40 ◼   ► kind of like check it out to see if it [TS]

00:49:41 ◼   ► might be something that your shower [TS]

00:49:43 ◼   ► yeah i mean almost everything that she [TS]

00:49:46 ◼   ► has ever seen on a screen has has sort [TS]

00:49:49 ◼   ► of come about as a result of either [TS]

00:49:51 ◼   ► going over to a friend's house where the [TS]

00:49:53 ◼   ► friend is watching frozen for the 40th [TS]

00:49:56 ◼   ► time and Marlowe will kind of sit next [TS]

00:49:59 ◼   ► to her friend for a while and watch some [TS]

00:50:02 ◼   ► portion of frozen but she gets you know [TS]

00:50:05 ◼   ► she her attention can't stay on it you [TS]

00:50:09 ◼   ► know like it will come to a song and [TS]

00:50:11 ◼   ► then Marlo you shall want to get up and [TS]

00:50:13 ◼   ► sing however or i will say I'm depriving [TS]

00:50:17 ◼   ► my child of this rich culture our [TS]

00:50:23 ◼   ► which it encyclopedia of video culture [TS]

00:50:26 ◼   ► and and I'll and I'll start to feel bad [TS]

00:50:29 ◼   ► and i'll say i need to show her some [TS]

00:50:31 ◼   ► things on the on TV because there's so [TS]

00:50:38 ◼   ► much wonderful stuff on TV and so you [TS]

00:50:43 ◼   ► know that's how i introduced to mr [TS]

00:50:44 ◼   ► Rogers and she likes mr. Rogers nice we [TS]

00:50:48 ◼   ► watch some some like British children's [TS]

00:50:51 ◼   ► television programs from the seventies [TS]

00:50:53 ◼   ► just because we like hearing them talk [TS]

00:50:56 ◼   ► usually they involve like like the main [TS]

00:51:00 ◼   ► characters of a man made out of a button [TS]

00:51:02 ◼   ► and up and a soup can because those were [TS]

00:51:06 ◼   ► those were hard times in England and [TS]

00:51:09 ◼   ► production values were very low so [TS]

00:51:12 ◼   ► button moon is one which is is really [TS]

00:51:16 ◼   ► like it's an amazing show i highly [TS]

00:51:18 ◼   ► recommend it's just there's a narrators [TS]

00:51:20 ◼   ► like here comes mr. spoon [TS]

00:51:23 ◼   ► he's wearing a hat and it's a spoon with [TS]

00:51:26 ◼   ► a with a like a UH played on its head [TS]

00:51:28 ◼   ► was right there on the 10 and you're [TS]

00:51:30 ◼   ► like wow I like that little while this [TS]

00:51:33 ◼   ► show really i mean yes you they don't [TS]

00:51:36 ◼   ► even bother concealing the fact that [TS]

00:51:38 ◼   ► they are controlling all the characters [TS]

00:51:40 ◼   ► with like popsicle sticks but then i'll [TS]

00:51:43 ◼   ► say like let's try adventure time let's [TS]

00:51:45 ◼   ► try powerpuff girls let's try we watched [TS]

00:51:48 ◼   ► a Mary Poppins and in general she just [TS]

00:51:55 ◼   ► um you know I told you we watch dumbo it [TS]

00:51:58 ◼   ► was it traumatized us both [TS]

00:52:00 ◼   ► yeah but in general it's not it's it's [TS]

00:52:03 ◼   ► not a because i don't i don't have a lot [TS]

00:52:08 ◼   ► of time watching stuff it's not it's not [TS]

00:52:13 ◼   ► part of her culture either great she [TS]

00:52:15 ◼   ► does like the ones that feeds into that [TS]

00:52:16 ◼   ► kind of the consistency thing [TS]

00:52:18 ◼   ► yeah right she we have decided that [TS]

00:52:20 ◼   ► watching tap dancing videos is one of [TS]

00:52:22 ◼   ► the things that we both enjoy and the [TS]

00:52:24 ◼   ► other day we were what we're watching [TS]

00:52:26 ◼   ► tap dancing videos and we came upon one [TS]

00:52:28 ◼   ► where [TS]

00:52:29 ◼   ► some tap guys and some Riverdance guys [TS]

00:52:33 ◼   ► well we're having a tap off and boy I i [TS]

00:52:40 ◼   ► think i could watch it again right now I [TS]

00:52:42 ◼   ► love me a little river dance video who [TS]

00:52:44 ◼   ► it was it was tapped guys and Riverdance [TS]

00:52:46 ◼   ► guys and the tap guys had a at a man [TS]

00:52:49 ◼   ► with a fedora and a saxophone and the [TS]

00:52:51 ◼   ► Riverdance guys had a redditor haired [TS]

00:52:53 ◼   ► girl with a violin and so they were like [TS]

00:52:56 ◼   ► trading licks and treatment aplex I [TS]

00:53:00 ◼   ► think everybody agreed that one of the [TS]

00:53:02 ◼   ► american-style tap-dance guys was like a [TS]

00:53:07 ◼   ► pretty tough to beat [TS]

00:53:08 ◼   ► but the head Riverdance guy i don't know [TS]

00:53:10 ◼   ► he had some of the agents grants guy i [TS]

00:53:14 ◼   ► don't think so i think these were you [TS]

00:53:16 ◼   ► know these were younger Riverdance guys [TS]

00:53:17 ◼   ► huh was he knows young guy young guys [TS]

00:53:20 ◼   ► giving each other a little bit of the [TS]

00:53:21 ◼   ► old razzmatazz booze but uh but yes you [TS]

00:53:27 ◼   ► can be good for things like that [TS]

00:53:28 ◼   ► oh I mean you just tap dance videos mind [TS]

00:53:31 ◼   ► watching watching for a thousand years [TS]

00:53:32 ◼   ► get a little bit of Shirley Temple you [TS]

00:53:34 ◼   ► get a little bit of a get a little bit [TS]

00:53:37 ◼   ► of like a the cast from Fame you know [TS]

00:53:42 ◼   ► get a slight a real slice of American [TS]

00:53:44 ◼   ► history huh sounds like she's this is [TS]

00:53:47 ◼   ► something she doesn't feel like she's [TS]

00:53:48 ◼   ► missing anything [TS]

00:53:49 ◼   ► oh no I mean I was always worried that [TS]

00:53:52 ◼   ► that that she was going to come to me [TS]

00:53:54 ◼   ► one day and just be like videos [TS]

00:53:58 ◼   ► what have you been doing why have you [TS]

00:54:00 ◼   ► been depriving me of these magical [TS]

00:54:02 ◼   ► things and so the first few times I [TS]

00:54:04 ◼   ► showed her videos [TS]

00:54:06 ◼   ► I you know I was watching very carefully [TS]

00:54:08 ◼   ► we're looking at our eyes to see if [TS]

00:54:10 ◼   ► there was some and I mean obviously she [TS]

00:54:13 ◼   ► was delighted by the moving pictures but [TS]

00:54:17 ◼   ► there was there was there wasn't any [TS]

00:54:21 ◼   ► moment where we're uh some switch was [TS]

00:54:26 ◼   ► flipped wear this with thistle [TS]

00:54:30 ◼   ► incredible world of a video production [TS]

00:54:36 ◼   ► was you know did she never wanted to [TS]

00:54:39 ◼   ► dive in it was always another [TS]

00:54:42 ◼   ► in the course of a day like oh and then [TS]

00:54:44 ◼   ► we'll watch that for 15 minutes and then [TS]

00:54:46 ◼   ► we'll go you know and then we'll go pull [TS]

00:54:51 ◼   ► of pedals off a flower whatever [TS]

00:54:53 ◼   ► ok so so yeah I know but it still may [TS]

00:54:57 ◼   ► happen you know she maybe she maybe [TS]

00:55:00 ◼   ► seven years old before she decides if [TS]

00:55:02 ◼   ► you know what it's probably going to be [TS]

00:55:03 ◼   ► virtual reality [TS]

00:55:05 ◼   ► well that's an interesting point she's [TS]

00:55:07 ◼   ► gonna put a VR headset on and she be [TS]

00:55:08 ◼   ► like wait a minute [TS]

00:55:09 ◼   ► nooope I don't have to stand around this [TS]

00:55:12 ◼   ► stupid world anymore i can go into this [TS]

00:55:14 ◼   ► other world our friend adjuster kisa on [TS]

00:55:17 ◼   ► the show we do has said in the past and [TS]

00:55:19 ◼   ► stuff that makes me think that he's more [TS]

00:55:20 ◼   ► in the nature versus nurture camp which [TS]

00:55:23 ◼   ► I would never have thought myself to be [TS]

00:55:24 ◼   ► in the camp of but the more i think [TS]

00:55:25 ◼   ► about it the more I see evidence that [TS]

00:55:28 ◼   ► that can tend to be true [TS]

00:55:30 ◼   ► once you start looking for it put [TS]

00:55:31 ◼   ► differently it's not so surprising that [TS]

00:55:34 ◼   ► something that you both of the parents [TS]

00:55:37 ◼   ► are really into become something the [TS]

00:55:39 ◼   ► kids are really into em conversely so [TS]

00:55:43 ◼   ► not just because the fortune star wars [TS]

00:55:44 ◼   ► down their throat but conversely [TS]

00:55:46 ◼   ► something that the parents just are not [TS]

00:55:47 ◼   ► into for any variety of reasons could [TS]

00:55:50 ◼   ► easily be something the kid is not that [TS]

00:55:52 ◼   ► into so you're suggesting a based on my [TS]

00:55:56 ◼   ► daughters Mother's proclivities that my [TS]

00:55:58 ◼   ► daughter will spend many hours a day [TS]

00:56:00 ◼   ► looking at bed bath and beyond catalogs [TS]

00:56:01 ◼   ► for the rest of your life [TS]

00:56:03 ◼   ► I look over my wife sometimes at night [TS]

00:56:06 ◼   ► and see on the ipad she's like looking [TS]

00:56:08 ◼   ► at a catalog sites [TS]

00:56:09 ◼   ► my daughter loves catalogs yeah catalogs [TS]

00:56:11 ◼   ► catalogs and like I mean youyou peer [TS]

00:56:15 ◼   ► over someone's shoulder and you think [TS]

00:56:16 ◼   ► like oh boy I'm gonna catch him catch [TS]

00:56:19 ◼   ► him looking at something on the internet [TS]

00:56:20 ◼   ► who's Tom and it is it's just like [TS]

00:56:24 ◼   ► discount per sites [TS]

00:56:26 ◼   ► yeah it's like wow I mean I you know I [TS]

00:56:29 ◼   ► have a luggage fetish myself [TS]

00:56:31 ◼   ► yep yep and if you look over my shoulder [TS]

00:56:33 ◼   ► you will catch me on some discount per [TS]

00:56:35 ◼   ► site so I'm not I'm not casting [TS]

00:56:38 ◼   ► aspersions and well in that case i mean [TS]

00:56:40 ◼   ► i think that the point there's the thing [TS]

00:56:43 ◼   ► that I feel like I think my wife would [TS]

00:56:44 ◼   ► agree that we post struggle with this a [TS]

00:56:45 ◼   ► little bit is we talk about things like [TS]

00:56:47 ◼   ► the screen time thing is that we both [TS]

00:56:48 ◼   ► really liked looking at ipads we both [TS]

00:56:51 ◼   ► really like you know watching top chef [TS]

00:56:53 ◼   ► at night or something like that and so [TS]

00:56:56 ◼   ► and so you know like in the case of like [TS]

00:56:58 ◼   ► last night we had a marathon gilmore [TS]

00:57:00 ◼   ► girls night we don't like to get more [TS]

00:57:01 ◼   ► girls which is a great show and we [TS]

00:57:03 ◼   ► finished off season one we started [TS]

00:57:05 ◼   ► season to my wife and I've seen all of [TS]

00:57:07 ◼   ► them least the first six seasons three [TS]

00:57:09 ◼   ► times so and my daughter loves it now [TS]

00:57:11 ◼   ► she sings along on the song so amy is it [TS]

00:57:13 ◼   ► surprising that like it's something we [TS]

00:57:15 ◼   ► all enjoy doing and what you do it but [TS]

00:57:17 ◼   ► then there's a long winter song and a [TS]

00:57:19 ◼   ► couple of Gilmore Girls episode 0 [TS]

00:57:20 ◼   ► remember which which song [TS]

00:57:23 ◼   ► no yeah be on the internet you on the OC [TS]

00:57:26 ◼   ► to write a couple of times that's Chris [TS]

00:57:28 ◼   ► supercool Maggie cause I respond respond [TS]

00:57:32 ◼   ► to one of my to the other day that was [TS]

00:57:33 ◼   ► kind of weird [TS]

00:57:33 ◼   ► he's a nice man he seems like a very [TS]

00:57:35 ◼   ► nice man yeah the times that you've [TS]

00:57:37 ◼   ► introduced me to him he seems like a [TS]

00:57:38 ◼   ► look at basically nice fellow [TS]

00:57:39 ◼   ► yes so that's not surprising but then [TS]

00:57:43 ◼   ► then now you're up against it because [TS]

00:57:45 ◼   ► now [TS]

00:57:46 ◼   ► yes we can have exactly one more gilmore [TS]

00:57:49 ◼   ► girls and then we've already had a bath [TS]

00:57:50 ◼   ► without dinner so it's definitely [TS]

00:57:51 ◼   ► bedtime everyone will do you 20 minutes [TS]

00:57:53 ◼   ► of reading we read you your 20 minutes [TS]

00:57:55 ◼   ► like that's the thing we do [TS]

00:57:56 ◼   ► yep and then and that's it but there's [TS]

00:57:59 ◼   ► never been a time when the credits came [TS]

00:58:01 ◼   ► up on anything that she was happy [TS]

00:58:02 ◼   ► mm-hmm shot guess guess who else was [TS]

00:58:05 ◼   ► exactly like that ma ma ma I want just [TS]

00:58:11 ◼   ► one more just one more car to one more [TS]

00:58:13 ◼   ► music video one more or but like who's [TS]

00:58:17 ◼   ► to blame because we like that too [TS]

00:58:19 ◼   ► yeah you know i'm just being straight-up [TS]

00:58:21 ◼   ► I mean yeah but like I that's that's the [TS]

00:58:24 ◼   ► thing [TS]

00:58:24 ◼   ► so you know you might not have such a [TS]

00:58:26 ◼   ► hard time getting her into the stolen [TS]

00:58:28 ◼   ► Jeep in in seventh grade will wash out [TS]

00:58:34 ◼   ► I you know I not to not to not to say [TS]

00:58:38 ◼   ► that some version of this on every [TS]

00:58:40 ◼   ► podcast but i was thinking about it the [TS]

00:58:41 ◼   ► other day in the context of the campaign [TS]

00:58:45 ◼   ► that I'm running that I you know I was [TS]

00:58:48 ◼   ► asking around like did we have iphones [TS]

00:58:49 ◼   ► for years ago we did what did they say i [TS]

00:58:54 ◼   ► think a lot of people said said yes that [TS]

00:58:56 ◼   ► they did I think I had 14 years ago yeah [TS]

00:58:58 ◼   ► I think about you but definitely not [TS]

00:59:00 ◼   ► eight years ago the iphone came out uh i [TS]

00:59:04 ◼   ► think it was eight years ago came out [TS]

00:59:06 ◼   ► eight years ago in [TS]

00:59:07 ◼   ► june was with the streets right and so [TS]

00:59:10 ◼   ► but you know but there was a pretty [TS]

00:59:12 ◼   ► weird thing that the true believers [TS]

00:59:13 ◼   ► bought but I think it got big like a [TS]

00:59:16 ◼   ► year or two after that [TS]

00:59:17 ◼   ► yeah and buried the 3g is the one where [TS]

00:59:19 ◼   ► everybody went whoa i need one of these [TS]

00:59:20 ◼   ► and i think my first one was a 3gs I [TS]

00:59:23 ◼   ► think that's nice phone that was a good [TS]

00:59:25 ◼   ► phone and said I mean that's that was a [TS]

00:59:26 ◼   ► strong phone there was a strong phone [TS]

00:59:28 ◼   ► and if i had never upgraded the [TS]

00:59:29 ◼   ► operating system i would still be using [TS]

00:59:31 ◼   ► it today st. sister but uh I realized [TS]

00:59:35 ◼   ► that you know i already had screentime [TS]

00:59:38 ◼   ► problems in the sense that i am I [TS]

00:59:42 ◼   ► continue to be astonished at how much I [TS]

00:59:44 ◼   ► how big a part of my life Twitter still [TS]

00:59:47 ◼   ► is I don't understand it it was we never [TS]

00:59:52 ◼   ► stop surprising you [TS]

00:59:53 ◼   ► yeah we predict we predicted for years [TS]

00:59:55 ◼   ► ago that it that that was over and it's [TS]

00:59:57 ◼   ► not i still am I still look at all [TS]

00:59:57 ◼   ► not i still am I still look at all [TS]

01:00:00 ◼   ► time I look at my phone all the time but [TS]

01:00:02 ◼   ► you know i'm running a political [TS]

01:00:04 ◼   ► campaign and these are some of the first [TS]

01:00:08 ◼   ► political campaigns that people have [TS]

01:00:09 ◼   ► ever run where they were campaigning 24 [TS]

01:00:12 ◼   ► hours a day because their phone is right [TS]

01:00:15 ◼   ► there and not there's no it's there's no [TS]

01:00:18 ◼   ► time at which somebody can't either to [TS]

01:00:24 ◼   ► something political at me or that I be [TS]

01:00:27 ◼   ► asked to respond to an email or an issue [TS]

01:00:31 ◼   ► its with me all the time and I think [TS]

01:00:34 ◼   ► back to what it must have been like to [TS]

01:00:36 ◼   ► run a campaign even 10 years ago when [TS]

01:00:40 ◼   ► you had to go sit down at your desk and [TS]

01:00:43 ◼   ► turn on your computer to read your [TS]

01:00:44 ◼   ► emails let alone 20 years ago when you [TS]

01:00:50 ◼   ► picked up the newspaper in the morning [TS]

01:00:51 ◼   ► and read the headlines and then sat down [TS]

01:00:54 ◼   ► at a phone and dialed people or you know [TS]

01:00:57 ◼   ► waited for the phone to ring and what [TS]

01:01:01 ◼   ► what that would have been like was that [TS]

01:01:04 ◼   ► if the phone wasn't ringing and your [TS]

01:01:06 ◼   ► name wasn't in the newspaper and you [TS]

01:01:07 ◼   ► weren't out actively campaigning then [TS]

01:01:09 ◼   ► you were off you know where you were [TS]

01:01:11 ◼   ► sitting at a typewriter or something you [TS]

01:01:13 ◼   ► you had some mental freedom from the [TS]

01:01:18 ◼   ► process and what what has been [TS]

01:01:22 ◼   ► characterizing my last three months is [TS]

01:01:23 ◼   ► that is total involvement 24-hour day [TS]

01:01:26 ◼   ► involvement in this thing that I'm doing [TS]

01:01:28 ◼   ► which is which has taken every last [TS]

01:01:31 ◼   ► shred of time always on call [TS]

01:01:34 ◼   ► like you almost like it just there's [TS]

01:01:36 ◼   ► never a time that you're probably [TS]

01:01:37 ◼   ► comfortable not picking up the phone to [TS]

01:01:39 ◼   ► see what that was right well I'm you [TS]

01:01:42 ◼   ► know last night in the middle of the [TS]

01:01:43 ◼   ► night somebody from some washington [TS]

01:01:46 ◼   ► state bicycle advocacy group found a [TS]

01:01:50 ◼   ► video of me very early on in the [TS]

01:01:53 ◼   ► campaign when somebody at a forum asked [TS]

01:01:56 ◼   ► a question where do you stand on bicycle [TS]

01:01:58 ◼   ► license plates and i said and i honestly [TS]

01:02:04 ◼   ► pictured myself on my schwinn stingray [TS]

01:02:06 ◼   ► with a little license plate that said [TS]

01:02:10 ◼   ► John [TS]

01:02:11 ◼   ► Washington that was held onto the back [TS]

01:02:14 ◼   ► of my bicycle with to twist times the [TS]

01:02:17 ◼   ► depth of your analysis for this ad hoc [TS]

01:02:19 ◼   ► I'm just thinking this in my head and I [TS]

01:02:21 ◼   ► was like I support bicycle licenses and [TS]

01:02:24 ◼   ► I look around and every other candidate [TS]

01:02:26 ◼   ► on the on the forum is holding up a sign [TS]

01:02:29 ◼   ► that says no and I'm like why not why [TS]

01:02:33 ◼   ► wouldn't you put license plates are [TS]

01:02:34 ◼   ► bicycles and the room is like boom and I [TS]

01:02:39 ◼   ► realized very quickly I look out in the [TS]

01:02:41 ◼   ► room and a couple of my supporters are [TS]

01:02:42 ◼   ► like shaking their heads vigorously back [TS]

01:02:44 ◼   ► and forth i realized that it is some [TS]

01:02:47 ◼   ► kind of test that people that hate bikes [TS]

01:02:51 ◼   ► and I don't even I can't even believe [TS]

01:02:54 ◼   ► that there are people that hate bikes [TS]

01:02:56 ◼   ► but they feel like bikes are a problem [TS]

01:02:58 ◼   ► they want to know so that dog whistles [TS]

01:03:01 ◼   ► for both sides [TS]

01:03:02 ◼   ► yeah the way where you come out on this [TS]

01:03:03 ◼   ► is I get it so that that's a pretty [TS]

01:03:07 ◼   ► simple question to answer you don't feel [TS]

01:03:09 ◼   ► yourself you know it's a trap like [TS]

01:03:10 ◼   ► you're walking into this thing where [TS]

01:03:12 ◼   ► like if how you answer that is going to [TS]

01:03:14 ◼   ► have a big impact on how two groups look [TS]

01:03:16 ◼   ► at you yeah right like oh if he wants [TS]

01:03:18 ◼   ► bicycle license plates then he hates [TS]

01:03:20 ◼   ► bicycles and it's like really I it [TS]

01:03:25 ◼   ► wasn't it was a new idea to me that [TS]

01:03:26 ◼   ► anybody hated bicycles but so somebody [TS]

01:03:30 ◼   ► some like Washington bicycle club [TS]

01:03:34 ◼   ► advocate in the middle of the night last [TS]

01:03:36 ◼   ► night finds the video somewhere and you [TS]

01:03:42 ◼   ► know caps it and start treating me [TS]

01:03:45 ◼   ► really John Roderick do you really think [TS]

01:03:48 ◼   ► that bicycles are the you know and I was [TS]

01:03:51 ◼   ► just like yeah well i was just on [TS]

01:03:53 ◼   ► Twitter just just reading some reading [TS]

01:03:56 ◼   ► some eugene mirman tweets and now i'm [TS]

01:03:59 ◼   ► like in a fist fight with somebody who [TS]

01:04:02 ◼   ► is mad at me about something that I you [TS]

01:04:06 ◼   ► know and I wrote immediately I was like [TS]

01:04:07 ◼   ► I got that totally wrong I didn't know [TS]

01:04:09 ◼   ► what that meant right it's it to quote [TS]

01:04:11 ◼   ► John Lennon and now it's all this I [TS]

01:04:13 ◼   ► didn't yeah I don't like the way we made [TS]

01:04:15 ◼   ► this time is dumb remark about Jesus [TS]

01:04:17 ◼   ► that was not really meant to say that we [TS]

01:04:19 ◼   ► are better than jesus i made this remark [TS]

01:04:21 ◼   ► and now it's all this [TS]

01:04:22 ◼   ► yeah yeah and now it's all this [TS]

01:04:24 ◼   ► and so then the but you know when [TS]

01:04:26 ◼   ► somebody says like I was wrong when I [TS]

01:04:29 ◼   ► said that um there's nothing you can do [TS]

01:04:34 ◼   ► except like oh okay I get it [TS]

01:04:37 ◼   ► and now i'm gonna send you 15 lecturing [TS]

01:04:40 ◼   ► tweets about what you you know about [TS]

01:04:44 ◼   ► what you should have known right and [TS]

01:04:45 ◼   ► it's like I i understand i have educated [TS]

01:04:49 ◼   ► myself sense then I you know I mean that [TS]

01:04:52 ◼   ► has happened a lot in the i have said a [TS]

01:04:55 ◼   ► lot of things on this podcast where I [TS]

01:04:56 ◼   ► got a lot of pushback from our listeners [TS]

01:04:59 ◼   ► and fans and then went and educated [TS]

01:05:01 ◼   ► myself holy god I mean I can't even tell [TS]

01:05:03 ◼   ► you how many times that's happened [TS]

01:05:05 ◼   ► yeah and I I said little but the thing [TS]

01:05:06 ◼   ► is here here's the part that did that [TS]

01:05:08 ◼   ► people miss apprehend understandably is [TS]

01:05:11 ◼   ► I didn't say I didn't say something dumb [TS]

01:05:13 ◼   ► because I was trying to be offensive [TS]

01:05:15 ◼   ► I said something dumb because i was [TS]

01:05:16 ◼   ► being dumb right and like I can grow but [TS]

01:05:19 ◼   ► now you have to go in public where like [TS]

01:05:21 ◼   ► if you don't respond to that person it [TS]

01:05:22 ◼   ► seems dismissive and if you do respond [TS]

01:05:24 ◼   ► to that person you can arguing on the [TS]

01:05:25 ◼   ► internet and you're just you're leaving [TS]

01:05:27 ◼   ► this huge trail of 22 where we can go [TS]

01:05:29 ◼   ► watch on servicing sensitive about this [TS]

01:05:30 ◼   ► page yeah yeah and and then I mean I'm [TS]

01:05:34 ◼   ► I'm very comfortable with the amount i [TS]

01:05:37 ◼   ► have learned and the amount i've had had [TS]

01:05:40 ◼   ► to grow up and and the role that [TS]

01:05:43 ◼   ► pushback from our from our listeners and [TS]

01:05:46 ◼   ► and super fans has has contributed to [TS]

01:05:49 ◼   ► that but there's always going to be [TS]

01:05:52 ◼   ► something that you can pull out [TS]

01:05:55 ◼   ► I mean you know there's always gonna be [TS]

01:05:56 ◼   ► something somebody can pull out from [TS]

01:05:57 ◼   ► this podcast and say can these guys [TS]

01:05:59 ◼   ► really can you really believe these guys [TS]

01:06:01 ◼   ► and you know what a what can we do you [TS]

01:06:05 ◼   ► know so it's a we were do we do it we do [TS]

01:06:09 ◼   ► we do now it's all that now it's all [TS]

01:06:11 ◼   ► this and it's like I you know and just [TS]

01:06:13 ◼   ► just as I mean it kinda can't have one [TS]