00:00:00 ◼ ► this very special clothes and emotions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/0">TS</a>]
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00:00:26 ◼ ► good although i just looked down and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/26">TS</a>]
00:00:28 ◼ ► noticed that i have a 'shmock it's on my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/28">TS</a>]
00:00:32 ◼ ► yeah i got all the way down here sat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/32">TS</a>]
00:00:34 ◼ ► down feeling good feeling strong and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/34">TS</a>]
00:00:36 ◼ ► then schmutz on the pan our crime EP 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/36">TS</a>]
00:00:38 ◼ ► mm you know you because you're sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/38">TS</a>]
00:00:41 ◼ ► you're sure officer studio HQ no hmm you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/41">TS</a>]
00:00:45 ◼ ► should probably get this happens to lots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/45">TS</a>]
00:00:47 ◼ ► of like rich famous guys you should get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/47">TS</a>]
00:00:49 ◼ ► a rack of clothes that you can have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/49">TS</a>]
00:00:51 ◼ ► around you know maybe after if you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/51">TS</a>]
00:00:53 ◼ ► a closet there but yeah i'm thinking you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/53">TS</a>]
00:00:54 ◼ ► need to start having a couple shirts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/54">TS</a>]
00:00:55 ◼ ► today and maybe some chemistry pants at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/55">TS</a>]
00:00:57 ◼ ► the office I do you know I I don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/57">TS</a>]
00:00:59 ◼ ► a closet but i do have clothes here left [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/59">TS</a>]
00:01:05 ◼ ► imagined that I would start of like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/65">TS</a>]
00:01:13 ◼ ► mhm where the the thing that the ebay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/73">TS</a>]
00:01:17 ◼ ► company sold was my old clothes so i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/77">TS</a>]
00:01:20 ◼ ► have a bunch of stuff i have i'm looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/80">TS</a>]
00:01:22 ◼ ► right now at that I think a tangerine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/82">TS</a>]
00:01:25 ◼ ► colored linen sport coat and a pair of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/85">TS</a>]
00:01:29 ◼ ► heavy wall hunting pants that it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/89">TS</a>]
00:01:33 ◼ ► have to be 20 below zero and you would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/93">TS</a>]
00:01:35 ◼ ► have to be spending a night outside to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/95">TS</a>]
00:01:39 ◼ ► that's what that's what my iphone oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/99">TS</a>]
00:01:41 ◼ ► there's a corduroy vest so so I Corey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/101">TS</a>]
00:01:45 ◼ ► best I could dress myself I could wear a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/105">TS</a>]
00:01:49 ◼ ► John Roderick for City Council t-shirt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/109">TS</a>]
00:01:51 ◼ ► the hunting pants it's just cute you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/111">TS</a>]
00:01:54 ◼ ► look like Ignatius roughly exactly like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/114">TS</a>]
00:01:59 ◼ ► oh my plural Val anyway that's where I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/119">TS</a>]
00:02:04 ◼ ► at I mean I can't talk about like talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/124">TS</a>]
00:02:08 ◼ ► about like needing to be ironed and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/128">TS</a>]
00:02:11 ◼ ► need to be ironed and spot pressed em [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/131">TS</a>]
00:02:13 ◼ ► and spot dabbed you know the thing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/133">TS</a>]
00:02:16 ◼ ► you know you kind of this eid a thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/136">TS</a>]
00:02:18 ◼ ► has been a presence in your life on and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/138">TS</a>]
00:02:21 ◼ ► off it sounds like the last few years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/141">TS</a>]
00:02:22 ◼ ► like it's always comes in it goes out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/142">TS</a>]
00:02:24 ◼ ► like you think about like findings on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/144">TS</a>]
00:02:25 ◼ ► ebay think about putting things on ebay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/145">TS</a>]
00:02:26 ◼ ► i'm still very interested in an idea for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/146">TS</a>]
00:02:31 ◼ ► curating some kind of museum of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/151">TS</a>]
00:02:34 ◼ ► because like you go to the store and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/154">TS</a>]
00:02:36 ◼ ► see all those tiny little clothes don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/156">TS</a>]
00:02:39 ◼ ► it's like somewhere out there i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/159">TS</a>]
00:02:40 ◼ ► see the doppelganger but it would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/160">TS</a>]
00:02:42 ◼ ► great if you could find like a few guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/162">TS</a>]
00:02:44 ◼ ► who was calling bears let's see if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/164">TS</a>]
00:02:48 ◼ ► they have your interests where you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/168">TS</a>]
00:02:49 ◼ ► like do things like swap clothes as part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/169">TS</a>]
00:02:51 ◼ ► of it is that you're a tall guy like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/171">TS</a>]
00:02:54 ◼ ► yeah you know yeah you were if you were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/174">TS</a>]
00:02:56 ◼ ► like if you know if you were like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/176">TS</a>]
00:02:57 ◼ ► little guy you could you could probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/177">TS</a>]
00:03:00 ◼ ► swap clothes with more other guys but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/180">TS</a>]
00:03:01 ◼ ► like you need to find there should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/181">TS</a>]
00:03:03 ◼ ► some kind of a matching service for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/183">TS</a>]
00:03:05 ◼ ► people based on interest and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/185">TS</a>]
00:03:07 ◼ ► what's the word I'm looking for you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/187">TS</a>]
00:03:10 ◼ ► yeah shape yeah shape right i mean i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/190">TS</a>]
00:03:13 ◼ ► think that there are enough just based [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/193">TS</a>]
00:03:15 ◼ ► on the touring that I've done and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/195">TS</a>]
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00:03:21 ◼ ► come up with up to be in airports and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/201">TS</a>]
00:03:23 ◼ ► other places and say mr. Roderick i am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/203">TS</a>]
00:03:29 ◼ ► guessing that out there are a large [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/209">TS</a>]
00:03:31 ◼ ► number of my people who are interested [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/211">TS</a>]
00:03:34 ◼ ► in the things that I make who also are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/214">TS</a>]
00:03:36 ◼ ► my size and shape and I that and so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/216">TS</a>]
00:03:40 ◼ ► interest in having ebay store was mostly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/220">TS</a>]
00:03:42 ◼ ► to just take these clothes and deliver [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/222">TS</a>]
00:03:44 ◼ ► them to a group that was standing there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/224">TS</a>]
00:03:46 ◼ ► with a big catcher's mitt already just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/226">TS</a>]
00:03:49 ◼ ► waiting for the used hunting pants [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/229">TS</a>]
00:03:51 ◼ ► thinking to themselves I want used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/231">TS</a>]
00:03:55 ◼ ► hunting pants and can't find them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/235">TS</a>]
00:03:56 ◼ ► anywhere and John Roderick has something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/236">TS</a>]
00:03:59 ◼ ► he's my size and we share a anesthetic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/239">TS</a>]
00:04:02 ◼ ► you know what it's not bespoke it's me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/242">TS</a>]
00:04:05 ◼ ► spoke em think that's the answer that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/245">TS</a>]
00:04:08 ◼ ► whoa thats nice bespoke it's sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/248">TS</a>]
00:04:10 ◼ ► like it's like a dating service but for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/250">TS</a>]
00:04:12 ◼ ► shape-based pairings are not based on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/252">TS</a>]
00:04:16 ◼ ► well but you know there's there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/256">TS</a>]
00:04:17 ◼ ► something there's something to this that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/257">TS</a>]
00:04:19 ◼ ► that gets at the heart of something else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/259">TS</a>]
00:04:26 ◼ ► inclination when you think about like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/266">TS</a>]
00:04:28 ◼ ► would like to curate a store of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/268">TS</a>]
00:04:30 ◼ ► former belongings is to your inclination [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/270">TS</a>]
00:04:33 ◼ ► is to look at that desire that impulse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/273">TS</a>]
00:04:36 ◼ ► and say that is narcissistic you know to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/276">TS</a>]
00:04:38 ◼ ► to reduce it to its basis like you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/278">TS</a>]
00:04:41 ◼ ► an egotist I'm talking now to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/281">TS</a>]
00:04:44 ◼ ► imaginary me you are an egotist and this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/284">TS</a>]
00:04:48 ◼ ► in its in it and it's but like most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/288">TS</a>]
00:04:51 ◼ ► reduced form you actually want to take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/291">TS</a>]
00:04:53 ◼ ► your things and put them up on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/293">TS</a>]
00:04:55 ◼ ► Internet as though they are valuable but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/295">TS</a>]
00:05:00 ◼ ► you know the desire to like curate your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/300">TS</a>]
00:05:04 ◼ ► desire to have a curated life is one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/304">TS</a>]
00:05:07 ◼ ► thing but the desire to have a curated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/307">TS</a>]
00:05:09 ◼ ► history of years of your life and of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/309">TS</a>]
00:05:13 ◼ ► yourself is a different impulse and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/313">TS</a>]
00:05:15 ◼ ► and in a tangle with it all the time you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/315">TS</a>]
00:05:18 ◼ ► know like four years I i was so i was so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/318">TS</a>]
00:05:22 ◼ ► pleased when I found my father's clothes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/322">TS</a>]
00:05:25 ◼ ► from the sixties and fifties and I found [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/325">TS</a>]
00:05:29 ◼ ► them in the eighties a long time after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/329">TS</a>]
00:05:32 ◼ ► my dad had stopped being interested in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/332">TS</a>]
00:05:33 ◼ ► them he couldn't wear them anymore and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/333">TS</a>]
00:05:36 ◼ ► they you know and he was not like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/336">TS</a>]
00:05:39 ◼ ► trendy guy but but they were dated suits [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/339">TS</a>]
00:05:42 ◼ ► you know and and I found these things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/342">TS</a>]
00:05:46 ◼ ► and they the only reason they were there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/346">TS</a>]
00:05:47 ◼ ► and the only reason that they an enemy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/347">TS</a>]
00:05:51 ◼ ► sourdough starter mix of my whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/351">TS</a>]
00:05:57 ◼ ► my dad's fifties suits hanging in his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/357">TS</a>]
00:06:02 ◼ ► imagined that because I because i had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/362">TS</a>]
00:06:05 ◼ ► that experience I was aware of it and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/365">TS</a>]
00:06:07 ◼ ► was saving things in order that my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/367">TS</a>]
00:06:11 ◼ ► future child son or daughter would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/371">TS</a>]
00:06:17 ◼ ► discover this this starter kit again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/377">TS</a>]
00:06:21 ◼ ► this sourdough and that it would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/381">TS</a>]
00:06:24 ◼ ► useful to them but I don't know how much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/384">TS</a>]
00:06:28 ◼ ► me discovering that you know how much of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/388">TS</a>]
00:06:31 ◼ ► it how much of the fact that my dad just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/391">TS</a>]
00:06:33 ◼ ► absolutely left that stuff around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/393">TS</a>]
00:06:35 ◼ ► because he never got around to throwing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/395">TS</a>]
00:06:38 ◼ ► how much of that but but but I mean I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/398">TS</a>]
00:06:41 ◼ ► was aware of my dad's history i put on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/401">TS</a>]
00:06:44 ◼ ► those clothes conscious of the fact that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/404">TS</a>]
00:06:46 ◼ ► these were the suits he wore during the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/406">TS</a>]
00:06:48 ◼ ► Kennedy administration I mean I only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/408">TS</a>]
00:06:50 ◼ ► tell me I wasn't blind to that but he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/410">TS</a>]
00:06:53 ◼ ► didn't keep them for me he just kept [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/413">TS</a>]
00:06:55 ◼ ► them because yeah and so I've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/415">TS</a>]
00:06:58 ◼ ► keeping stuff my whole life thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/418">TS</a>]
00:07:03 ◼ ► regenerate that that excitement and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/423">TS</a>]
00:07:06 ◼ ► like putting on your dad's clothes you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/426">TS</a>]
00:07:10 ◼ ► know like the spoon song your dad's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/430">TS</a>]
00:07:14 ◼ ► uh-huh um it's so it sits there scoffs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/434">TS</a>]
00:07:17 ◼ ► is really got me thinking there's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/437">TS</a>]
00:07:19 ◼ ► many different levels to this i mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/439">TS</a>]
00:07:21 ◼ ► only you know the the anecdote I have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/441">TS</a>]
00:07:23 ◼ ► share as you know my dad died when I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/443">TS</a>]
00:07:25 ◼ ► really young and I discovered over time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/445">TS</a>]
00:07:27 ◼ ► like little caches of his clothes and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/447">TS</a>]
00:07:30 ◼ ► was a little taller than me and a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/450">TS</a>]
00:07:31 ◼ ► skinnier than me but uh i mean i still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/451">TS</a>]
00:07:34 ◼ ► have a jacket of his from the early [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/454">TS</a>]
00:07:36 ◼ ► seventies that I we're increasingly less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/456">TS</a>]
00:07:38 ◼ ► because I i do want to keep it but like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/458">TS</a>]
00:07:40 ◼ ► you're on something so super interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/460">TS</a>]
00:07:43 ◼ ► intellectual because something very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/463">TS</a>]
00:07:44 ◼ ► emotional to what you're describing but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/464">TS</a>]
00:07:46 ◼ ► like when you first when i made the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/466">TS</a>]
00:07:47 ◼ ► crack haha like you know what you like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/467">TS</a>]
00:07:49 ◼ ► some random july kind of project we open [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/469">TS</a>]
00:07:51 ◼ ► a shop and saw your own clothes and be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/471">TS</a>]
00:07:53 ◼ ► like a cute little like Portlandia [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/473">TS</a>]
00:07:54 ◼ ► sketch but like that's the thing is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/474">TS</a>]
00:07:56 ◼ ► there's there's such a distinction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/476">TS</a>]
00:07:57 ◼ ► between like how you would choose to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/477">TS</a>]
00:07:59 ◼ ► frame that to the public like the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/479">TS</a>]
00:08:01 ◼ ► you afraid that to the public and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/481">TS</a>]
00:08:02 ◼ ► taking this kind of seriously because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/482">TS</a>]
00:08:04 ◼ ► what is art anyway you know aren't a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/484">TS</a>]
00:08:08 ◼ ► narcissistic it has to be a soft money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/488">TS</a>]
00:08:10 ◼ ► ven diagram on tumblr the day were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/490">TS</a>]
00:08:11 ◼ ► somebody saying like you know the nexus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/491">TS</a>]
00:08:17 ◼ ► haha yes it's kind of true but like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/497">TS</a>]
00:08:21 ◼ ► there's one way of saying like okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/501">TS</a>]
00:08:22 ◼ ► here's all these objects from my life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/502">TS</a>]
00:08:24 ◼ ► that I'm putting a frame around in order [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/504">TS</a>]
00:08:27 ◼ ► to highlight how pointless and ephemeral [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/507">TS</a>]
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00:08:33 ◼ ► around it to show like how important was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/513">TS</a>]
00:08:34 ◼ ► how emblematic it was how this is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/514">TS</a>]
00:08:36 ◼ ► strange connective tissue between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/516">TS</a>]
00:08:38 ◼ ► generations like you know in the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/518">TS</a>]
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00:08:44 ◼ ► the beatles because my parents loved the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/524">TS</a>]
00:08:45 ◼ ► Beatles it's another kind of thing to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/525">TS</a>]
00:08:47 ◼ ► sensibilities i developed based on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/527">TS</a>]
00:08:49 ◼ ► wearing the suit you know and how much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/529">TS</a>]
00:08:51 ◼ ► like I I you know you know it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/531">TS</a>]
00:08:53 ◼ ► then there's the whole aspect of like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/533">TS</a>]
00:08:55 ◼ ► little kid like you never know what your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/535">TS</a>]
00:08:56 ◼ ► little kid wants a question answered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/536">TS</a>]
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00:09:00 ◼ ► of old stuff is like so many answers to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/540">TS</a>]
00:09:03 ◼ ► questions you didn't know existed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/543">TS</a>]
00:09:05 ◼ ► yeah absolutely and you know and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/545">TS</a>]
00:09:08 ◼ ► there are lots of people who would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/548">TS</a>]
00:09:13 ◼ ► seeing the original handwritten lyrics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/553">TS</a>]
00:09:17 ◼ ► to scared straight right i mean there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/557">TS</a>]
00:09:20 ◼ ► a lot of fans that like that song when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/560">TS</a>]
00:09:22 ◼ ► it because when they become aware that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/562">TS</a>]
00:09:24 ◼ ► there is a paper that has the original [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/564">TS</a>]
00:09:26 ◼ ► handwritten lyrics to that song that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/566">TS</a>]
00:09:28 ◼ ► was scribbling out as i was writing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/568">TS</a>]
00:09:31 ◼ ► in the studio there there are plenty of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/571">TS</a>]
00:09:34 ◼ ► oh I would be interested in seeing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/574">TS</a>]
00:09:36 ◼ ► and then there's a much smaller group of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/576">TS</a>]
00:09:39 ◼ ► interested in owning that right i mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/579">TS</a>]
00:09:41 ◼ ► when you think about the original [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/581">TS</a>]
00:09:43 ◼ ► handwritten lyrics to like a rolling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/583">TS</a>]
00:09:45 ◼ ► stone there are millions of people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/585">TS</a>]
00:09:48 ◼ ► would be interested in seeing it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/588">TS</a>]
00:09:49 ◼ ► probably you know many tens of thousands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/589">TS</a>]
00:09:52 ◼ ► who would bid on it if it came up for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/592">TS</a>]
00:09:54 ◼ ► auction quite if you know it's a much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/594">TS</a>]
00:09:56 ◼ ► smaller group of people that care about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/596">TS</a>]
00:09:58 ◼ ► scared strange but for me the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/598">TS</a>]
00:10:03 ◼ ► handwritten lyrics of like a rolling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/603">TS</a>]
00:10:05 ◼ ► stone are interesting to look at but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/605">TS</a>]
00:10:09 ◼ ► would be much more interested in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/609">TS</a>]
00:10:10 ◼ ► shirt that Dylan was wearing when he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/610">TS</a>]
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00:10:18 ◼ ► remember the shirt he was wearing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/618">TS</a>]
00:10:20 ◼ ► doesn't ever didn't think that way when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/620">TS</a>]
00:10:23 ◼ ► he see so like a peculiarly but so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/623">TS</a>]
00:10:26 ◼ ► uniquely wired to find something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/626">TS</a>]
00:10:31 ◼ ► yeah remember DJ weathermen the guy that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/631">TS</a>]
00:10:33 ◼ ► used to go through his trash and write [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/633">TS</a>]
00:10:34 ◼ ► about it like he's Bob Dylan particular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/634">TS</a>]
00:10:37 ◼ ► is particularly wire to go like I'm like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/637">TS</a>]
00:10:39 ◼ ► I'm sure way to care about the song let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/639">TS</a>]
00:10:40 ◼ ► alone my shirt but whatever he would he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/640">TS</a>]
00:10:42 ◼ ► would burn it all or at least he would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/642">TS</a>]
00:10:44 ◼ ► burn it as be just so you can have it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/644">TS</a>]
00:10:46 ◼ ► yeah right and at them and the big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/646">TS</a>]
00:10:48 ◼ ► question of dylanologists is like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/648">TS</a>]
00:10:51 ◼ ► yes he yes he finds that repulsive but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/651">TS</a>]
00:10:53 ◼ ► also that is his persona you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/653">TS</a>]
00:10:55 ◼ ► he's an acting finding that repulsive to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/655">TS</a>]
00:10:59 ◼ ► ok but maybe you know i think i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/659">TS</a>]
00:11:02 ◼ ► you're right i mean guide it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/662">TS</a>]
00:11:04 ◼ ► criminology around that guy's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/664">TS</a>]
00:11:05 ◼ ► anywhere right are getting when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/665">TS</a>]
00:11:07 ◼ ► think about but you think about him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/667">TS</a>]
00:11:09 ◼ ► Dylan constructing his personality out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/669">TS</a>]
00:11:11 ◼ ► of Lego blocks and at which you know at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/671">TS</a>]
00:11:14 ◼ ► which point he grabbed the block that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/674">TS</a>]
00:11:15 ◼ ► was like a the kill your idols and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/675">TS</a>]
00:11:20 ◼ ► set it there is one of the foundational [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/680">TS</a>]
00:11:26 ◼ ► there's something about me that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/686">TS</a>]
00:11:29 ◼ ► remember pretty much like I know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/689">TS</a>]
00:11:32 ◼ ► shirt I was wearing and there's maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/692">TS</a>]
00:11:36 ◼ ► only a handful of people that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/696">TS</a>]
00:11:38 ◼ ► interested in that connection like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/698">TS</a>]
00:11:41 ◼ ► that's the shirts that I was wearing at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/701">TS</a>]
00:11:46 ◼ ► that point and I got that shirt from my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/706">TS</a>]
00:11:48 ◼ ► dad and that's the shirt I was wearing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/708">TS</a>]
00:11:51 ◼ ► when i when i wrote scared straight and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/711">TS</a>]
00:11:53 ◼ ► that through line is meet you know maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/713">TS</a>]
00:11:57 ◼ ► we'll never be interesting to my kids or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/717">TS</a>]
00:11:59 ◼ ► my grandkids but it is interesting to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/719">TS</a>]
00:12:06 ◼ ► interesting to me and I don't know I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/726">TS</a>]
00:12:09 ◼ ► can't separate out like I think I've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/729">TS</a>]
00:12:11 ◼ ► it i think i got it and this is this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/731">TS</a>]
00:12:13 ◼ ► the inevitable party like we you know we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/733">TS</a>]
00:12:15 ◼ ► joke forever about the dumb stuff we say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/735">TS</a>]
00:12:16 ◼ ► for our kids that they want because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/736">TS</a>]
00:12:18 ◼ ► again it's the the part that's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/738">TS</a>]
00:12:19 ◼ ► interesting is like you know what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/739">TS</a>]
00:12:21 ◼ ► care about and you know what you found [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/741">TS</a>]
00:12:23 ◼ ► interesting but you know that's what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/743">TS</a>]
00:12:26 ◼ ► found interesting about that particular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/746">TS</a>]
00:12:27 ◼ ► person or you know obviously the clothes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/747">TS</a>]
00:12:30 ◼ ► have become like kind of a touchdown for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/750">TS</a>]
00:12:31 ◼ ► you I guess what I'm saying is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/751">TS</a>]
00:12:32 ◼ ► there's no we didn't know what your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/752">TS</a>]
00:12:33 ◼ ► kid's gonna care about right that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/753">TS</a>]
00:12:35 ◼ ► know the idea of saving a shirt for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/755">TS</a>]
00:12:36 ◼ ► somebody is pretty weird like to to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/756">TS</a>]
00:12:38 ◼ ► anybody who's not into in the same way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/758">TS</a>]
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00:12:44 ◼ ► that's like it this is this is not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/764">TS</a>]
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00:12:49 ◼ ► everything i'm going to be a garbage man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/769">TS</a>]
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00:12:58 ◼ ► things to keep but the idea of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/778">TS</a>]
00:13:00 ◼ ► particular thing going into the trash [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/780">TS</a>]
00:13:02 ◼ ► because you know any other normal person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/782">TS</a>]
00:13:04 ◼ ► would look at 15 items in a room is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/784">TS</a>]
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00:13:18 ◼ ► carpenters cup that's such a great line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/798">TS</a>]
00:13:19 ◼ ► but you know nobody could look at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/799">TS</a>]
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00:13:29 ◼ ► extrinsic or somebody go that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/809">TS</a>]
00:13:31 ◼ ► nicest one that's the one of the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/811">TS</a>]
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00:13:38 ◼ ► you know hardback books like who's to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/818">TS</a>]
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00:13:45 ◼ ► gonna care about that the same way that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/825">TS</a>]
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00:15:22 ◼ ► talking there i'm pretty sure i'd like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/922">TS</a>]
00:15:26 ◼ ► to thank comcast for all their support [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/926">TS</a>]
00:15:29 ◼ ► i'm pretty sure that i was talking for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/929">TS</a>]
00:15:30 ◼ ► full minute and a half i was looking for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/930">TS</a>]
00:15:32 ◼ ► at least two minutes yeah and then I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/932">TS</a>]
00:15:34 ◼ ► like Merlin right you haven't said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/934">TS</a>]
00:15:35 ◼ ► anything you haven't granted and nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/935">TS</a>]
00:15:38 ◼ ► I was afraid unless let's praise out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/938">TS</a>]
00:15:40 ◼ ► my mouth was can you pull off a vest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/940">TS</a>]
00:15:43 ◼ ► can you pull off a vest and then there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/943">TS</a>]
00:15:44 ◼ ► was silence and I couldn't reconnect and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/944">TS</a>]
00:15:47 ◼ ► haha you know it's a good question i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/947">TS</a>]
00:15:50 ◼ ► have i have several vests but i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/950">TS</a>]
00:15:54 ◼ ► never I don't I can't think of a time I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/954">TS</a>]
00:15:57 ◼ ► ever walked out of the house wearing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/957">TS</a>]
00:15:58 ◼ ► only a vest it's you know it seems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/958">TS</a>]
00:16:00 ◼ ► it's kind of up there with the cowboy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/960">TS</a>]
00:16:01 ◼ ► hat and the leather pants m in the like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/961">TS</a>]
00:16:05 ◼ ► wow you know a good if you can do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/965">TS</a>]
00:16:07 ◼ ► good on you yeah right that's right you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/967">TS</a>]
00:16:09 ◼ ► have to be if I think you have to be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/969">TS</a>]
00:16:10 ◼ ► thin guy i think all those things it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/970">TS</a>]
00:16:12 ◼ ► helps if you're a lanky cowboy type [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/972">TS</a>]
00:16:14 ◼ ► yeah if you're wearing if you're a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/974">TS</a>]
00:16:15 ◼ ► heavyset guy then your best is I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/975">TS</a>]
00:16:18 ◼ ► properly a waistcoat but you know what i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/978">TS</a>]
00:16:21 ◼ ► was talking about that whole time was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/981">TS</a>]
00:16:23 ◼ ► that I have sitting on a shelf in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/983">TS</a>]
00:16:26 ◼ ► living room i have a broken speedometer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/986">TS</a>]
00:16:32 ◼ ► automobile a broken speedometer from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/992">TS</a>]
00:16:34 ◼ ► motorcycle that i crashed in a Kansas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/994">TS</a>]
00:16:36 ◼ ► field in 1986 and I was so devastated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/996">TS</a>]
00:16:42 ◼ ► because this motorcycle represented [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1002">TS</a>]
00:16:44 ◼ ► basically my only asset in the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1004">TS</a>]
00:16:50 ◼ ► five-hundred-dollar motorcyclist honda [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1010">TS</a>]
00:16:52 ◼ ► 1981 honda cb650 and erected in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1012">TS</a>]
00:16:56 ◼ ► field and it was a total wreck but I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1016">TS</a>]
00:16:59 ◼ ► it I had a friend come put it in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1019">TS</a>]
00:17:02 ◼ ► back of his pickup truck and drive it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1022">TS</a>]
00:17:03 ◼ ► denver and I took it to a place called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1023">TS</a>]
00:17:05 ◼ ► denver used motorcycle parts or dump and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1025">TS</a>]
00:17:11 ◼ ► I was like you gotta give me some money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1031">TS</a>]
00:17:12 ◼ ► for this bike it's the only thing I own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1032">TS</a>]
00:17:14 ◼ ► in the world I don't have anything else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1034">TS</a>]
00:17:15 ◼ ► and I was like it's 81 honda it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1035">TS</a>]
00:17:18 ◼ ► worth any money i was like come on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1038">TS</a>]
00:17:20 ◼ ► something anything in the guy was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1040">TS</a>]
00:17:23 ◼ ► and I was like really what this was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1043">TS</a>]
00:17:26 ◼ ► first time in my life I had ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1046">TS</a>]
00:17:28 ◼ ► well obviously the first time I never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1048">TS</a>]
00:17:30 ◼ ► crashed a motorcycle in Kansas field and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1050">TS</a>]
00:17:32 ◼ ► I didn't know how to deal with it every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1052">TS</a>]
00:17:36 ◼ ► yeah and so the guy wrenches off the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1056">TS</a>]
00:17:39 ◼ ► broken speedometer which is broken and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1059">TS</a>]
00:17:41 ◼ ► still stuck at 80 miles and that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1061">TS</a>]
00:17:45 ◼ ► know the pits like broken like like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1065">TS</a>]
00:17:47 ◼ ► cracked he goes here's a souvenir and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1067">TS</a>]
00:17:53 ◼ ► still have it still is it still second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1073">TS</a>]
00:17:55 ◼ ► 80 miles per hour feel stuck at 80 miles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1075">TS</a>]
00:17:57 ◼ ► an hour and I you know and it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1077">TS</a>]
00:17:59 ◼ ► what good is that to anybody you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1079">TS</a>]
00:18:05 ◼ ► well okay but this locates the picking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1085">TS</a>]
00:18:06 ◼ ► up on the thread and you know god damn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1086">TS</a>]
00:18:09 ◼ ► comcast that whatever we're really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1089">TS</a>]
00:18:10 ◼ ► getting somewhere with that arm cast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1090">TS</a>]
00:18:12 ◼ ► like I think there's lots of little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1092">TS</a>]
00:18:13 ◼ ► things I feel like you can tease out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1093">TS</a>]
00:18:16 ◼ ► little distinctions that to me are very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1096">TS</a>]
00:18:18 ◼ ► I mean there's the things that we save [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1098">TS</a>]
00:18:20 ◼ ► and we know why and we know it's for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1100">TS</a>]
00:18:22 ◼ ► ourselves and that's okay there's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1102">TS</a>]
00:18:24 ◼ ► things we say we're not really even sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1104">TS</a>]
00:18:27 ◼ ► and we think it might be for us you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1107">TS</a>]
00:18:29 ◼ ► what i mean i think i think there's all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1109">TS</a>]
00:18:30 ◼ ► kinds of different levels to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1110">TS</a>]
00:18:32 ◼ ► there's some stuff people save think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1112">TS</a>]
00:18:33 ◼ ► about the classic sort of medals and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1113">TS</a>]
00:18:35 ◼ ► trophies kind of thing right where it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1115">TS</a>]
00:18:37 ◼ ► about like you say that because you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1117">TS</a>]
00:18:38 ◼ ► to show the people that you've got you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1118">TS</a>]
00:18:40 ◼ ► know you've got wounded in world war two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1120">TS</a>]
00:18:42 ◼ ► or what-have-you somebody handed me a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1122">TS</a>]
00:18:44 ◼ ► facebook challenge coin the other day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1124">TS</a>]
00:18:47 ◼ ► they snuck out their hand and I was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1127">TS</a>]
00:18:49 ◼ ► oh hi nice to meet you like mr. red [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1129">TS</a>]
00:18:52 ◼ ► river and shake his hand and I feel this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1132">TS</a>]
00:18:54 ◼ ► thing between us and I'm like oh god [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1134">TS</a>]
00:18:56 ◼ ► what the fuck I'm like oh it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1136">TS</a>]
00:18:57 ◼ ► challenge coin i'm looking at the guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1137">TS</a>]
00:18:59 ◼ ► i'm trying to think what challenge coin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1139">TS</a>]
00:19:01 ◼ ► could this guy possibly be handing me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1141">TS</a>]
00:19:03 ◼ ► it's going to be amazing whatever it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1143">TS</a>]
00:19:05 ◼ ► and it's a facebook challenge coin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1145">TS</a>]
00:19:07 ◼ ► nothing tracking your movement and he we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1147">TS</a>]
00:19:10 ◼ ► had a look on his face that was justjust [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1150">TS</a>]
00:19:12 ◼ ► shire cat you know like you're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1152">TS</a>]
00:19:14 ◼ ► like this of facebook challenge going um [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1154">TS</a>]
00:19:18 ◼ ► and so the thing that I thought I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1158">TS</a>]
00:19:21 ◼ ► anyway the thing i found interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1161">TS</a>]
00:19:22 ◼ ► about what we're getting at is this you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1162">TS</a>]
00:19:25 ◼ ► distinctions like why am i saving this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1165">TS</a>]
00:19:28 ◼ ► am i saving this for me to remember on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1168">TS</a>]
00:19:30 ◼ ► my saving it for someone else to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1170">TS</a>]
00:19:31 ◼ ► remember my saving this because i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1171">TS</a>]
00:19:33 ◼ ► it's going to be useful in a way that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1173">TS</a>]
00:19:37 ◼ ► could this be useful in a way that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1177">TS</a>]
00:19:38 ◼ ► don't understand you know because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1178">TS</a>]
00:19:40 ◼ ► think there's a continuum here or a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1180">TS</a>]
00:19:42 ◼ ► spectrum if you were on the one end like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1182">TS</a>]
00:19:44 ◼ ► if the only if you know it the like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1184">TS</a>]
00:19:48 ◼ ► know I don't be morose but like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1188">TS</a>]
00:19:50 ◼ ► eight a deceased child's blanket like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1190">TS</a>]
00:19:53 ◼ ► that might be something that you would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1193">TS</a>]
00:19:54 ◼ ► want to keep like you get that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1194">TS</a>]
00:19:56 ◼ ► overhear your like you know I can't keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1196">TS</a>]
00:19:58 ◼ ► all the blankets I've ever had right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1198">TS</a>]
00:20:00 ◼ ► well I like this like there's there is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1200">TS</a>]
00:20:02 ◼ ► continuum like there's this emotional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1202">TS</a>]
00:20:04 ◼ ► continuum between like you know somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1204">TS</a>]
00:20:07 ◼ ► who's incredibly emotionally healthy and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1207">TS</a>]
00:20:10 ◼ ► has a understand why they're doing this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1210">TS</a>]
00:20:11 ◼ ► downloads all the other end we're likely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1211">TS</a>]
00:20:15 ◼ ► yeah I don't feel it is a sign i do not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1215">TS</a>]
00:20:17 ◼ ► feel that my keeping things is a sign of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1217">TS</a>]
00:20:21 ◼ ► let's be quite frank about that right i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1221">TS</a>]
00:20:24 ◼ ► think that can you say that across the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1224">TS</a>]
00:20:25 ◼ ► board there's some things where it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1225">TS</a>]
00:20:26 ◼ ► totally makes sense don't you imagine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1226">TS</a>]
00:20:28 ◼ ► that that the most emotionally healthy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1228">TS</a>]
00:20:30 ◼ ► doing right now is sitting somewhere in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1230">TS</a>]
00:20:34 ◼ ► Big Sur and all he has it is the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1234">TS</a>]
00:20:38 ◼ ► thing has on is a vest and it's a board [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1238">TS</a>]
00:20:42 ◼ ► short and it is minimalist desk and he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1242">TS</a>]
00:20:45 ◼ ► just like whatever man but it don't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1245">TS</a>]
00:20:49 ◼ ► and then you know and then I'm sitting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1249">TS</a>]
00:20:50 ◼ ► here you know in my in my hunting pants [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1250">TS</a>]
00:20:53 ◼ ► with a broken speedometer from 81 honda [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1253">TS</a>]
00:20:56 ◼ ► I think he's sounds healthier than me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1256">TS</a>]
00:21:00 ◼ ► yeah I you know I guess so or some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1260">TS</a>]
00:21:03 ◼ ► people are more emotionally raw or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1263">TS</a>]
00:21:06 ◼ ► emotionally available or unavailable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1266">TS</a>]
00:21:09 ◼ ► I see it you know like in my family like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1269">TS</a>]
00:21:13 ◼ ► my wife is way I don't even think of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1273">TS</a>]
00:21:16 ◼ ► myself as being that into like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1276">TS</a>]
00:21:18 ◼ ► objects that I say I'm not like i can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1278">TS</a>]
00:21:20 ◼ ► just have the whole boxes of stuff flood [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1280">TS</a>]
00:21:22 ◼ ► like I just right I would be okay oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1282">TS</a>]
00:21:24 ◼ ► that's a bummer but like I wouldn't I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1284">TS</a>]
00:21:26 ◼ ► also maybe that's partly because I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1286">TS</a>]
00:21:28 ◼ ► that I'm wrong enough that if I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1288">TS</a>]
00:21:29 ◼ ► thought about it I'd be sad forever but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1289">TS</a>]
00:21:31 ◼ ► however one day one day I was about to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1291">TS</a>]
00:21:33 ◼ ► take out the trash in the kitchen and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1293">TS</a>]
00:21:35 ◼ ► looked in the trash and if I just have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1295">TS</a>]
00:21:37 ◼ ► to tell you my wife is she loves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1297">TS</a>]
00:21:39 ◼ ► throwing things away even you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1299">TS</a>]
00:21:41 ◼ ► I'm a purge guy sometimes i really want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1301">TS</a>]
00:21:43 ◼ ► to push my wife is like day today she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1303">TS</a>]
00:21:44 ◼ ► loves throwing things away or recycling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1304">TS</a>]
00:21:46 ◼ ► but you know getting useless things out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1306">TS</a>]
00:21:49 ◼ ► as pair of shoes in there and I was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1309">TS</a>]
00:21:52 ◼ ► my heart sank and I i picked up this the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1312">TS</a>]
00:21:55 ◼ ► this old gross pair of her shoes and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1315">TS</a>]
00:21:58 ◼ ► held them up in the air and was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1318">TS</a>]
00:22:00 ◼ ► what are you doing she said there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1320">TS</a>]
00:22:02 ◼ ► disgusting i have 19 years I said this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1322">TS</a>]
00:22:05 ◼ ► is the shoes you were wearing when i met [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1325">TS</a>]
00:22:06 ◼ ► yeah oh I might as well have said like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1326">TS</a>]
00:22:11 ◼ ► this is the turn I made the morning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1331">TS</a>]
00:22:14 ◼ ► if one of the want to throw your wedding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1334">TS</a>]
00:22:17 ◼ ► but like they were exactly what she they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1337">TS</a>]
00:22:21 ◼ ► were like old shoes she did not want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1341">TS</a>]
00:22:23 ◼ ► wear anymore they were out of fashion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1343">TS</a>]
00:22:25 ◼ ► they were they were dirty old groceries [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1345">TS</a>]
00:22:27 ◼ ► and she threw them away but like my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1347">TS</a>]
00:22:29 ◼ ► first reaction of course because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1349">TS</a>]
00:22:30 ◼ ► know I'm so good at instantly making it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1350">TS</a>]
00:22:32 ◼ ► you want to come to garbage but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1352">TS</a>]
00:22:37 ◼ ► funny though because like sometimes my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1357">TS</a>]
00:22:38 ◼ ► daughter and I will go like to get our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1358">TS</a>]
00:22:40 ◼ ► scooters you know will notice walk by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1360">TS</a>]
00:22:42 ◼ ► the trash and we'll go like what like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1362">TS</a>]
00:22:44 ◼ ► discovered things in the trash and be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1364">TS</a>]
00:22:45 ◼ ► like hey you either way this popsicle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1365">TS</a>]
00:22:48 ◼ ► stick and then she'll go to shoot their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1368">TS</a>]
00:22:53 ◼ ► well now let me ask you where you were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1373">TS</a>]
00:22:56 ◼ ► you I i know there's a there's a term [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1376">TS</a>]
00:22:58 ◼ ► for this or a word for it even i'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1378">TS</a>]
00:23:00 ◼ ► sure what it is but like I when I was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1380">TS</a>]
00:23:02 ◼ ► kid if if I took a banana banana off a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1382">TS</a>]
00:23:07 ◼ ► bunch of bananas there was a part of me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1387">TS</a>]
00:23:09 ◼ ► that felt sorry for the the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1389">TS</a>]
00:23:13 ◼ ► uh-huh because i had chosen the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1393">TS</a>]
00:23:15 ◼ ► banana and I felt I felt like I was I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1395">TS</a>]
00:23:19 ◼ ► had to comfort the remaining bananas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1399">TS</a>]
00:23:25 ◼ ► it was just that i picked this one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1405">TS</a>]
00:23:28 ◼ ► banana you know what I mean like either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1408">TS</a>]
00:23:29 ◼ ► i feel so much emotion and always have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1409">TS</a>]
00:23:33 ◼ ► from the time I was a little kid about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1413">TS</a>]
00:23:36 ◼ ► I man right here and you know reduced to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1416">TS</a>]
00:23:38 ◼ ► tears feeling sorry for a a chair with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1418">TS</a>]
00:23:46 ◼ ► broken leg or i mean i remember i used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1426">TS</a>]
00:23:49 ◼ ► to have a flag that like one of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1429">TS</a>]
00:23:52 ◼ ► orange safety flags that they attached [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1432">TS</a>]
00:23:58 ◼ ► so you could see me around corners or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1438">TS</a>]
00:24:01 ◼ ► yeah that was a really big pennant a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1441">TS</a>]
00:24:03 ◼ ► penetrate a big orange Pentagon on upon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1443">TS</a>]
00:24:05 ◼ ► a little of our flexible pole on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1445">TS</a>]
00:24:07 ◼ ► back of my bike and somehow I I crashed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1447">TS</a>]
00:24:10 ◼ ► the bike and it and my penance ripped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1450">TS</a>]
00:24:13 ◼ ► our and I was in consolidate all not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1453">TS</a>]
00:24:18 ◼ ► because like because the pendant was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1458">TS</a>]
00:24:21 ◼ ► less useful or because you know but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1461">TS</a>]
00:24:23 ◼ ► because that because I felt sorry for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1463">TS</a>]
00:24:25 ◼ ► the Penans and I've carried that into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1465">TS</a>]
00:24:29 ◼ ► adulthood in a way that you know I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1469">TS</a>]
00:24:32 ◼ ► now apologize to things that i use i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1472">TS</a>]
00:24:35 ◼ ► don't feel like broken things I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1475">TS</a>]
00:24:38 ◼ ► cry for broken things the same way but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1478">TS</a>]
00:24:41 ◼ ► but objects do have like they have an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1481">TS</a>]
00:24:46 ◼ ► emotional valence they do yes and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1486">TS</a>]
00:24:49 ◼ ► it's and it's very hard for me to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1489">TS</a>]
00:24:52 ◼ ► know in a way like throw things away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1492">TS</a>]
00:24:54 ◼ ► that have that have served me well i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1494">TS</a>]
00:24:57 ◼ ► guess because I want to honor their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1497">TS</a>]
00:25:01 ◼ ► okay I hate to admit it but I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1501">TS</a>]
00:25:04 ◼ ► nearly as much that way they used to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1504">TS</a>]
00:25:05 ◼ ► but i was so that way and I I think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1505">TS</a>]
00:25:08 ◼ ► because i am and always have been a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1508">TS</a>]
00:25:10 ◼ ► little broken inside and so I mean like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1510">TS</a>]
00:25:12 ◼ ► the little here's the thing when i get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1512">TS</a>]
00:25:13 ◼ ► back to the continuum I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1513">TS</a>]
00:25:15 ◼ ► there's that many examples of this you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1515">TS</a>]
00:25:16 ◼ ► can come up with examples of this than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1516">TS</a>]
00:25:17 ◼ ► almost anybody you know crying that your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1517">TS</a>]
00:25:20 ◼ ► wife threw out an old pair of shoes not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1520">TS</a>]
00:25:22 ◼ ► crying but like going hey yeah that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1522">TS</a>]
00:25:24 ◼ ► this always sells shoes end up in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1524">TS</a>]
00:25:26 ◼ ► garbage yeah totally yes young i want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1526">TS</a>]
00:25:28 ◼ ► you how many how many pairs of shoes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1528">TS</a>]
00:25:30 ◼ ► will we save this becomes a question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1530">TS</a>]
00:25:32 ◼ ► like what and how do we honor some how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1532">TS</a>]
00:25:34 ◼ ► do we honor the shoes she doesn't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1534">TS</a>]
00:25:37 ◼ ► yeah but now but like for example like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1537">TS</a>]
00:25:40 ◼ ► there's all the obvious kinds of things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1540">TS</a>]
00:25:41 ◼ ► like you know I i used to have a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1541">TS</a>]
00:25:44 ◼ ► attachment to stuffed animals were at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1544">TS</a>]
00:25:46 ◼ ► plushies as they're now called my kid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1546">TS</a>]
00:25:48 ◼ ► loves him now I think she got it i love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1548">TS</a>]
00:25:50 ◼ ► my stuffed animals when I was a kid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1550">TS</a>]
00:25:52 ◼ ► 22 until I was like pretty old and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1552">TS</a>]
00:25:54 ◼ ► so stuff like seeing a stuffed animal on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1554">TS</a>]
00:25:57 ◼ ► the street still makes me melancholy I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1557">TS</a>]
00:25:59 ◼ ► think that's a pretty clear one right no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1559">TS</a>]
00:26:02 ◼ ► matter how much no matter how many pork [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1562">TS</a>]
00:26:03 ◼ ► chops you jam in your mouth hole every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1563">TS</a>]
00:26:05 ◼ ► month watching the first few minutes of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1565">TS</a>]
00:26:08 ◼ ► heartstrings and you go oh my god [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1568">TS</a>]
00:26:11 ◼ ► as we're like things you are generally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1571">TS</a>]
00:26:13 ◼ ► think of as an inert object you suddenly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1573">TS</a>]
00:26:15 ◼ ► feel very emotional about for all kinds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1575">TS</a>]
00:26:17 ◼ ► of reasons and so you know in but maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1577">TS</a>]
00:26:20 ◼ ► you're right maybe it maybe does come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1580">TS</a>]
00:26:21 ◼ ► down to be a little being a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1581">TS</a>]
00:26:25 ◼ ► in some ways yeah I used to isolate feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1585">TS</a>]
00:26:27 ◼ ► really bad for my feel positive we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1587">TS</a>]
00:26:29 ◼ ► had this conversation before but I used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1589">TS</a>]
00:26:31 ◼ ► to feel bad i used to have feel bad for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1591">TS</a>]
00:26:33 ◼ ► my clothes I used to like feel like if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1593">TS</a>]
00:26:35 ◼ ► didn't wear them often enough or like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1595">TS</a>]
00:26:37 ◼ ► you know I didn't want my socks be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1597">TS</a>]
00:26:38 ◼ ► separated and I didn't I didn't want I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1598">TS</a>]
00:26:41 ◼ ► didn't want my shirt to get their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1601">TS</a>]
00:26:42 ◼ ► feelings hurt i have about that very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1602">TS</a>]
00:26:43 ◼ ► strongly absolutely and and and there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1603">TS</a>]
00:26:46 ◼ ► something I i got a Valentine one time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1606">TS</a>]
00:26:50 ◼ ► in about third grade and the valentine i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1610">TS</a>]
00:26:56 ◼ ► may have talked about this a long time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1616">TS</a>]
00:26:57 ◼ ► ago with you but the Valentine was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1617">TS</a>]
00:26:59 ◼ ► little girl and she was crying and she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1619">TS</a>]
00:27:01 ◼ ► was holding a flower and she'd obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1621">TS</a>]
00:27:05 ◼ ► been playing the he loves me he loves me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1625">TS</a>]
00:27:09 ◼ ► game for plucking the pedals off the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1629">TS</a>]
00:27:12 ◼ ► flour and she had plucked the pedals [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1632">TS</a>]
00:27:15 ◼ ► down to the last petal there was one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1635">TS</a>]
00:27:18 ◼ ► petal remaining on her flower and it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1638">TS</a>]
00:27:20 ◼ ► clear from the narrative the of it the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1640">TS</a>]
00:27:23 ◼ ► unwritten narrative of the Valentine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1643">TS</a>]
00:27:25 ◼ ► that she had arrived at the last panel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1645">TS</a>]
00:27:27 ◼ ► that the pedal was he loves me not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1647">TS</a>]
00:27:31 ◼ ► and she could not pluck it and was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1651">TS</a>]
00:27:35 ◼ ► crying holding the flower imagining [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1655">TS</a>]
00:27:38 ◼ ► imagining that she could go back in time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1658">TS</a>]
00:27:41 ◼ ► imagining another world an alternate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1661">TS</a>]
00:27:43 ◼ ► reality where the last petal was that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1663">TS</a>]
00:27:46 ◼ ► loves me and the Valentine was this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1666">TS</a>]
00:27:48 ◼ ► little cartoon of a girl crying and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1668">TS</a>]
00:27:51 ◼ ► it said i will be so lonely if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1671">TS</a>]
00:27:55 ◼ ► aren't my valentine or something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1675">TS</a>]
00:27:59 ◼ ► that and all of this was that it was it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1679">TS</a>]
00:28:00 ◼ ► wasn't explicit it was just in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1680">TS</a>]
00:28:02 ◼ ► drawing and has a third-grader I could I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1682">TS</a>]
00:28:05 ◼ ► understood the story that it was that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1685">TS</a>]
00:28:07 ◼ ► was being told and this valentine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1687">TS</a>]
00:28:10 ◼ ► destroyed me and I and and I I openly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1690">TS</a>]
00:28:15 ◼ ► cried at receiving and I don't remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1695">TS</a>]
00:28:19 ◼ ► but I it was just you know it was one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1699">TS</a>]
00:28:22 ◼ ► those things like everybody in the class [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1702">TS</a>]
00:28:23 ◼ ► has to give everybody a Valentine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1703">TS</a>]
00:28:25 ◼ ► situations but here this thing popped up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1705">TS</a>]
00:28:27 ◼ ► in the newspaper somebody about a store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1707">TS</a>]
00:28:29 ◼ ► ya popped up in a stack of Valentine's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1709">TS</a>]
00:28:31 ◼ ► and the it was so fraud and and and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1711">TS</a>]
00:28:35 ◼ ► felt so acutely for this little cartoon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1715">TS</a>]
00:28:37 ◼ ► girl that she had started out probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1717">TS</a>]
00:28:40 ◼ ► plucking these pedals full of excitement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1720">TS</a>]
00:28:43 ◼ ► and hope and fun like he loves me he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1723">TS</a>]
00:28:45 ◼ ► loves me not he loves me and then she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1725">TS</a>]
00:28:47 ◼ ► and then it started to get darker as she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1727">TS</a>]
00:28:49 ◼ ► was running out of pedals on this she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1729">TS</a>]
00:28:52 ◼ ► got down to that last petal and she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1732">TS</a>]
00:28:54 ◼ ► couldn't pluck it and I wanted and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1734">TS</a>]
00:28:56 ◼ ► wanted to do anything in the world to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1736">TS</a>]
00:28:58 ◼ ► change this girl's life to change the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1738">TS</a>]
00:29:00 ◼ ► story to change the reality to put an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1740">TS</a>]
00:29:02 ◼ ► extra pedal on that flat fucking flower [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1742">TS</a>]
00:29:05 ◼ ► and I i would sit so I kept this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1745">TS</a>]
00:29:08 ◼ ► valentine and I tucked it away and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1748">TS</a>]
00:29:11 ◼ ► would take it out sometimes and look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1751">TS</a>]
00:29:13 ◼ ► it like it was pornography because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1753">TS</a>]
00:29:17 ◼ ► could put me in this place of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1757">TS</a>]
00:29:19 ◼ ► emotional just absolute darkness you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1759">TS</a>]
00:29:24 ◼ ► never get didn't diminish over time you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1764">TS</a>]
00:29:26 ◼ ► know had that power and i would i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1766">TS</a>]
00:29:28 ◼ ► draw it sometimes I would sit and end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1768">TS</a>]
00:29:31 ◼ ► and either trace it or actually do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1771">TS</a>]
00:29:32 ◼ ► drawings of it on a separate piece of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1772">TS</a>]
00:29:34 ◼ ► paper I guess trying to unlock it trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1774">TS</a>]
00:29:38 ◼ ► to unlock the story or or change it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1778">TS</a>]
00:29:42 ◼ ► some way and I so i think that i still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1782">TS</a>]
00:29:48 ◼ ► have the valentine i think i may even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1788">TS</a>]
00:29:50 ◼ ► still have some of the drawings i did of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1790">TS</a>]
00:29:52 ◼ ► the Valentine God and I don't instead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1792">TS</a>]
00:29:56 ◼ ► still sitting and thinking about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1796">TS</a>]
00:29:58 ◼ ► right now i can i can picture everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1798">TS</a>]
00:30:00 ◼ ► about it and i am and i still feel for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1800">TS</a>]
00:30:06 ◼ ► and what's what's crazy is that I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1806">TS</a>]
00:30:09 ◼ ► only just started exposing my daughter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1809">TS</a>]
00:30:13 ◼ ► to to media that is complicated right up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1813">TS</a>]
00:30:18 ◼ ► until now it's you know all of her books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1818">TS</a>]
00:30:19 ◼ ► and all the stuff that she's been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1819">TS</a>]
00:30:21 ◼ ► exposed to is pretty much on the line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1821">TS</a>]
00:30:24 ◼ ► yeah it's just like little apple boy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1824">TS</a>]
00:30:27 ◼ ► puts the letter a on his apple basket [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1827">TS</a>]
00:30:31 ◼ ► that's right little apple Boyd never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1831">TS</a>]
00:30:33 ◼ ► complains about going to bed but he's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1833">TS</a>]
00:30:35 ◼ ► big but I've started you know I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1835">TS</a>]
00:30:38 ◼ ► started introducing her to you know we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1838">TS</a>]
00:30:42 ◼ ► oh and i forgot i was like Dumbo the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1842">TS</a>]
00:30:48 ◼ ► oh my i was sat down and what had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1848">TS</a>]
00:30:50 ◼ ► started watching tempo and I'm like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1850">TS</a>]
00:30:52 ◼ ► Dumbo and sees a funny funny funny often [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1852">TS</a>]
00:30:54 ◼ ► but i often we just need self-confidence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1854">TS</a>]
00:30:56 ◼ ► with the flappy ears at the flower and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1856">TS</a>]
00:31:01 ◼ ► okay Dumbo is like it's like basically a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1861">TS</a>]
00:31:05 ◼ ► it is full of a minute it's it's a it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1865">TS</a>]
00:31:11 ◼ ► basically the the story of precious the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1871">TS</a>]
00:31:16 ◼ ► that whatever that movie was from a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1876">TS</a>]
00:31:18 ◼ ► couple years ago however long the night [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1878">TS</a>]
00:31:20 ◼ ► with the name of the person in it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1880">TS</a>]
00:31:22 ◼ ► yeah um based on sapphire or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1882">TS</a>]
00:31:25 ◼ ► yeah but that's right it's you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1885">TS</a>]
00:31:27 ◼ ► Dumbo was born everyone rejects him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1887">TS</a>]
00:31:30 ◼ ► because of his birth defect and his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1890">TS</a>]
00:31:32 ◼ ► mother trying to defend him is a is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1892">TS</a>]
00:31:35 ◼ ► taken away by the authorities and put in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1895">TS</a>]
00:31:37 ◼ ► sale insane asylum dumbo is rejected by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1897">TS</a>]
00:31:40 ◼ ► the tribe and his only friend is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1900">TS</a>]
00:31:42 ◼ ► wisecracking mouse he's surrounded by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1902">TS</a>]
00:31:45 ◼ ► evil clowns he is he's forced into you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1905">TS</a>]
00:31:50 ◼ ► know essentially like a is forced into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1910">TS</a>]
00:31:52 ◼ ► being up like a freaking slideshow yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1912">TS</a>]
00:31:56 ◼ ► a professional freak and only in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1916">TS</a>]
00:32:01 ◼ ► only in the last minute of the film is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1921">TS</a>]
00:32:03 ◼ ► there any redemption and it is when he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1923">TS</a>]
00:32:05 ◼ ► discovers he can fly oh oh and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1925">TS</a>]
00:32:07 ◼ ► there's you know they're the like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1927">TS</a>]
00:32:08 ◼ ► the tribe of racist the crows are ready [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1928">TS</a>]
00:32:13 ◼ ► you know the crows themselves are racist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1933">TS</a>]
00:32:16 ◼ ► yeah and and so i'm watching this movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1936">TS</a>]
00:32:20 ◼ ► and she is just she's like yelling at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1940">TS</a>]
00:32:25 ◼ ► the screen like no Jake can take depose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1945">TS</a>]
00:32:29 ◼ ► mom and she's just like so her emotional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1949">TS</a>]
00:32:34 ◼ ► response to this stuff is like so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1954">TS</a>]
00:32:40 ◼ ► intense and I'm sitting there I'm like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1960">TS</a>]
00:32:44 ◼ ► right do I turn this off because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1964">TS</a>]
00:32:46 ◼ ► don't want you don't mean the thing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1966">TS</a>]
00:32:47 ◼ ► though you get every kid sits with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1967">TS</a>]
00:32:49 ◼ ► and they turn out mostly ok but like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1969">TS</a>]
00:32:51 ◼ ► just hate seeing your kid like now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1971">TS</a>]
00:32:52 ◼ ► you're sitting there you you put your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1972">TS</a>]
00:32:54 ◼ ► child in this situation are you positive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1974">TS</a>]
00:32:56 ◼ ► this monstrosity I much i mentioned babe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1976">TS</a>]
00:32:59 ◼ ► we made about three minutes into babe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1979">TS</a>]
00:33:01 ◼ ► and then she started sitting upright now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1981">TS</a>]
00:33:02 ◼ ► I know what that means when she was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1982">TS</a>]
00:33:03 ◼ ► little she would always say this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1983">TS</a>]
00:33:04 ◼ ► boring right this is this is boring that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1984">TS</a>]
00:33:07 ◼ ► means like this is horrifying me please [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1987">TS</a>]
00:33:08 ◼ ► take off and started to kind of look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1988">TS</a>]
00:33:10 ◼ ► down a little bit and I could tell me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1990">TS</a>]
00:33:11 ◼ ► about 30 seconds from tears like what am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1991">TS</a>]
00:33:13 ◼ ► i doing what if I done and so she really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1993">TS</a>]
00:33:15 ◼ ► she feels it too huh you feel stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1995">TS</a>]
00:33:17 ◼ ► super hard everything is I was talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1997">TS</a>]
00:33:19 ◼ ► to my mom about it and dumbo came out in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/1999">TS</a>]
00:33:22 ◼ ► 1941 yes for early 45 40 41 and my mom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2002">TS</a>]
00:33:29 ◼ ► was six years old in nineteen forty six [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2009">TS</a>]
00:33:32 ◼ ► or seven years old she was like oh i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2012">TS</a>]
00:33:34 ◼ ► remember going to see Dumbo in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2014">TS</a>]
00:33:36 ◼ ► theater when it came out I was like wow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2016">TS</a>]
00:33:40 ◼ ► how did you feel about it and she said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2020">TS</a>]
00:33:43 ◼ ► oh I mean it was you know kids movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2023">TS</a>]
00:33:47 ◼ ► like all those movies and as I started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2027">TS</a>]
00:33:50 ◼ ► to unpack it I realized that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2030">TS</a>]
00:33:52 ◼ ► experiences that dumbo was having in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2032">TS</a>]
00:33:56 ◼ ► comparison to be experiences my mom was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2036">TS</a>]
00:33:58 ◼ ► actually having dinner in her own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2038">TS</a>]
00:34:01 ◼ ► dumbo was some light-hearted shit to her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2041">TS</a>]
00:34:03 ◼ ► right you know like like my mom was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2043">TS</a>]
00:34:07 ◼ ► actually you know was was actually an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2047">TS</a>]
00:34:10 ◼ ► orphan laboring on a farm right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2050">TS</a>]
00:34:16 ◼ ► dumbo was you know at least getting a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2056">TS</a>]
00:34:18 ◼ ► fun farm that one don't like it when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2058">TS</a>]
00:34:20 ◼ ► say four people going to go dude like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2060">TS</a>]
00:34:23 ◼ ► turkey in the straw kind of think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2063">TS</a>]
00:34:24 ◼ ► like no really a million more like me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2064">TS</a>]
00:34:25 ◼ ► think coal miners that land right a farm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2065">TS</a>]
00:34:28 ◼ ► where you where there was an outhouse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2068">TS</a>]
00:34:30 ◼ ► and we're grinding poverty the way you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2070">TS</a>]
00:34:33 ◼ ► drive your clothes in winter was that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2073">TS</a>]
00:34:35 ◼ ► you hung them up outside they froze and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2075">TS</a>]
00:34:38 ◼ ► then you beat them with a rod until the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2078">TS</a>]
00:34:41 ◼ ► ice broke off of them and that was how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2081">TS</a>]
00:34:43 ◼ ► that and then took them inside and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2083">TS</a>]
00:34:44 ◼ ► ironed them dry so my mom was like oh I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2084">TS</a>]
00:34:48 ◼ ► you know dumbo shrugged it off and I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2088">TS</a>]
00:34:51 ◼ ► like oh my god a so of course I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2091">TS</a>]
00:34:55 ◼ ► and I you know and I held my little girl [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2095">TS</a>]
00:34:58 ◼ ► and said you know like and talk to her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2098">TS</a>]
00:35:01 ◼ ► about it you know I didn't like say it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2101">TS</a>]
00:35:03 ◼ ► ok it's ok I I said he had Dumbo's mom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2103">TS</a>]
00:35:06 ◼ ► is really in trouble she was trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2106">TS</a>]
00:35:09 ◼ ► and you know and we walk we talked our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2109">TS</a>]
00:35:12 ◼ ► way through the movie and I was like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2112">TS</a>]
00:35:15 ◼ ► jesus that was emotionally fraught for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2115">TS</a>]
00:35:17 ◼ ► oh yeah i think it would have been if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2117">TS</a>]
00:35:19 ◼ ► had just watched by myself really like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2119">TS</a>]
00:35:22 ◼ ► about what a terrible time dumbo had and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2122">TS</a>]
00:35:24 ◼ ► i'm not sure what I watched it in 1972 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2124">TS</a>]
00:35:28 ◼ ► what their I mean it was dumbo had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2128">TS</a>]
00:35:32 ◼ ► worse time that I did but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2132">TS</a>]
00:35:33 ◼ ► jumbled and ER like on ir near the top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2133">TS</a>]
00:35:37 ◼ ► of the list of like they're canonical I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2137">TS</a>]
00:35:39 ◼ ► mean in terms of like my disney hates [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2139">TS</a>]
00:35:41 ◼ ► parents and consequently kind of hates [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2141">TS</a>]
00:35:43 ◼ ► kids like we are going to make you feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2143">TS</a>]
00:35:45 ◼ ► so low and here's the thing these disney [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2145">TS</a>]
00:35:48 ◼ ► movies this is the thing to keep in mind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2148">TS</a>]
00:35:49 ◼ ► is you know what you're talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2149">TS</a>]
00:35:51 ◼ ► like you know people with certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2151">TS</a>]
00:35:52 ◼ ► generation they all Disney movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2152">TS</a>]
00:35:53 ◼ ► they're like these fun things and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2153">TS</a>]
00:35:55 ◼ ► there's lots of a wackadoodle animals [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2155">TS</a>]
00:35:57 ◼ ► singing songs and stuff like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2157">TS</a>]
00:35:58 ◼ ► I've been thinking about this a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2158">TS</a>]
00:35:59 ◼ ► lately is the what is it that really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2159">TS</a>]
00:36:01 ◼ ► sticks with you about a movie and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2161">TS</a>]
00:36:04 ◼ ► thing is some people might really they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2164">TS</a>]
00:36:06 ◼ ► might remember like Mary Poppins for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2166">TS</a>]
00:36:10 ◼ ► I remember it for the woman feeding the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2170">TS</a>]
00:36:12 ◼ ► birds oh yeah and it's well experienced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2172">TS</a>]
00:36:15 ◼ ► very it's so depressing and like in like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2175">TS</a>]
00:36:18 ◼ ► an in these cases these movies were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2178">TS</a>]
00:36:19 ◼ ► talking about like it may have you like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2179">TS</a>]
00:36:21 ◼ ► Robin Hood and like putting children in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2181">TS</a>]
00:36:24 ◼ ► it's like how you explain a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2184">TS</a>]
00:36:27 ◼ ► well it's friendly and is the princess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2187">TS</a>]
00:36:30 ◼ ► corrupt and he's a lion man and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2190">TS</a>]
00:36:32 ◼ ► like but what you really remember that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2192">TS</a>]
00:36:33 ◼ ► there are these just stuff that I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2193">TS</a>]
00:36:36 ◼ ► the impact that sticks with least mean a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2196">TS</a>]
00:36:38 ◼ ► lot of people i know was the incredibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2198">TS</a>]
00:36:39 ◼ ► intensely sad stuff and then in fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2199">TS</a>]
00:36:42 ◼ ► when you want to have this kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2202">TS</a>]
00:36:43 ◼ ► tacked on happy ending it kind of makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2203">TS</a>]
00:36:45 ◼ ► it worse because you're like who like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2205">TS</a>]
00:36:48 ◼ ► there's this thing I don't understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2208">TS</a>]
00:36:50 ◼ ► i'm kind of pushing this bruise now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2210">TS</a>]
00:36:51 ◼ ► about how sad this made me and all this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2211">TS</a>]
00:36:53 ◼ ► all this kind of you know baggy pants [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2213">TS</a>]
00:36:56 ◼ ► humor at the end is not making me feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2216">TS</a>]
00:36:58 ◼ ► better but it feels it feels really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2218">TS</a>]
00:37:01 ◼ ► it feels really fake and emotional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2221">TS</a>]
00:37:04 ◼ ► impact you're trying to create it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2224">TS</a>]
00:37:05 ◼ ► everything turns out great the parents [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2225">TS</a>]
00:37:07 ◼ ► or whatever it's like it's so it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2227">TS</a>]
00:37:10 ◼ ► not only doesn't offset how sad you were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2230">TS</a>]
00:37:12 ◼ ► at the end of the first or second act [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2232">TS</a>]
00:37:14 ◼ ► but like how it makes it kind of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2234">TS</a>]
00:37:16 ◼ ► know I'm saying it kind of makes it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2236">TS</a>]
00:37:17 ◼ ► worse that like you're trying to like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2237">TS</a>]
00:37:19 ◼ ► make me happy now when I know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2239">TS</a>]
00:37:21 ◼ ► profundity of that sadness that I felt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2241">TS</a>]
00:37:23 ◼ ► is so much more important than seeing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2243">TS</a>]
00:37:25 ◼ ► the end of Technicolor production or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2245">TS</a>]
00:37:28 ◼ ► yeah the the end of Dumbo I'm not sure I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2248">TS</a>]
00:37:31 ◼ ► I mean I haven't watched any advil and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2251">TS</a>]
00:37:33 ◼ ► do not remember well he I mean that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2253">TS</a>]
00:37:36 ◼ ► device he flies and then he's the star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2256">TS</a>]
00:37:39 ◼ ► and the last scene of the movie is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2259">TS</a>]
00:37:42 ◼ ► dumbo has his own super cool art deco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2262">TS</a>]
00:37:47 ◼ ► styled train car the tacked onto the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2267">TS</a>]
00:37:51 ◼ ► of the Train it's very modern and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2271">TS</a>]
00:37:54 ◼ ► there's a balcony where his mother is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2274">TS</a>]
00:37:57 ◼ ► sitting watching him fly high above the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2277">TS</a>]
00:38:01 ◼ ► train i think maybe the crows are there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2281">TS</a>]
00:38:03 ◼ ► they're all friends huh and but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2283">TS</a>]
00:38:06 ◼ ► thing is like watching it now I did very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2286">TS</a>]
00:38:09 ◼ ► much have the experience of thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2289">TS</a>]
00:38:11 ◼ ► Dumbo's mother is never gonna live that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2291">TS</a>]
00:38:13 ◼ ► she's never going to feel safe again and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2293">TS</a>]
00:38:15 ◼ ► never again I mean if terry gilliam made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2295">TS</a>]
00:38:17 ◼ ► an honest version of that it would all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2297">TS</a>]
00:38:19 ◼ ► turn out to have been a dream what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2299">TS</a>]
00:38:20 ◼ ► number was being tortured and was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2300">TS</a>]
00:38:21 ◼ ► dehydrated and I'm imagining it would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2301">TS</a>]
00:38:23 ◼ ► like you know flying flying with Jill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2303">TS</a>]
00:38:25 ◼ ► through the air in Brazil no no no that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2305">TS</a>]
00:38:28 ◼ ► you're just sitting there getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2308">TS</a>]
00:38:29 ◼ ► tortured by the guy from monty python [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2309">TS</a>]
00:38:30 ◼ ► it's all good yeah it was it was I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2310">TS</a>]
00:38:32 ◼ ► it was the end of innocence but when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2312">TS</a>]
00:38:35 ◼ ► go back to the beginning of Dumbo when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2315">TS</a>]
00:38:39 ◼ ► I mean Dumbo's mother is waiting for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2319">TS</a>]
00:38:42 ◼ ► stork to deliver her baby and everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2322">TS</a>]
00:38:44 ◼ ► else in the circus has already had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2324">TS</a>]
00:38:46 ◼ ► baby and Dumbo's mother than the stork [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2326">TS</a>]
00:38:50 ◼ ► like was late or was it was a a stumble [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2330">TS</a>]
00:38:53 ◼ ► bomb and what they chose to pull punches [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2333">TS</a>]
00:38:56 ◼ ► about is so bananas like we don't talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2336">TS</a>]
00:38:58 ◼ ► about coitus but the fact that she might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2338">TS</a>]
00:39:00 ◼ ► be barren and she's incredibly lonely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2340">TS</a>]
00:39:03 ◼ ► yeah and on and all the other elephants [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2343">TS</a>]
00:39:07 ◼ ► mid-atlantic accents are not that I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2347">TS</a>]
00:39:13 ◼ ► yes they do wow she's Shelby a terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2353">TS</a>]
00:39:17 ◼ ► matter about your uncle and they're all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2357">TS</a>]
00:39:21 ◼ ► already at the start of the movie you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2361">TS</a>]
00:39:23 ◼ ► can tell that Dumbo's mother is a an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2363">TS</a>]
00:39:25 ◼ ► outcast be maybe a little slow and none [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2365">TS</a>]
00:39:34 ◼ ► of the other like none of the other sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2374">TS</a>]
00:39:37 ◼ ► of a quickie elephants like her at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2377">TS</a>]
00:39:42 ◼ ► they're mocking her before the before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2382">TS</a>]
00:39:44 ◼ ► the baby even arrives God and so it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2384">TS</a>]
00:39:47 ◼ ► there's no there's no happy ending to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2387">TS</a>]
00:39:50 ◼ ► that movie like even if dumbo is written [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2390">TS</a>]
00:39:53 ◼ ► in part of it as the American ending [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2393">TS</a>]
00:39:55 ◼ ► right where dumbo gets rich and that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2395">TS</a>]
00:39:57 ◼ ► the triumph right that now they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2397">TS</a>]
00:40:00 ◼ ► their own railcar but they're still in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2400">TS</a>]
00:40:01 ◼ ► the freaking circus they're not back in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2401">TS</a>]
00:40:04 ◼ ► that they're not back in the Savannah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2404">TS</a>]
00:40:06 ◼ ► dumb bowed and his mother didn't free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2406">TS</a>]
00:40:07 ◼ ► themselves but they're still there still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2407">TS</a>]
00:40:11 ◼ ► I you know I don't know I i feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2411">TS</a>]
00:40:13 ◼ ► i'm gonna be my little girl and I are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2413">TS</a>]
00:40:15 ◼ ► going to sit and we're going to digest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2415">TS</a>]
00:40:17 ◼ ► dumbo for a while but I but seeing her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2417">TS</a>]
00:40:23 ◼ ► emotional reaction to you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2423">TS</a>]
00:40:27 ◼ ► thing that you're describing where she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2427">TS</a>]
00:40:29 ◼ ► all of a sudden movement and and all he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2429">TS</a>]
00:40:31 ◼ ► is trying to avert our eyes and you go i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2431">TS</a>]
00:40:36 ◼ ► can i'm not just gonna keep broadcasting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2436">TS</a>]
00:40:38 ◼ ► happy fluff to her right but but uh but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2438">TS</a>]
00:40:44 ◼ ► if she shares my emotional nature like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2444">TS</a>]
00:40:47 ◼ ► there are so many more land mines in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2447">TS</a>]
00:40:50 ◼ ► world than for a normal person you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2450">TS</a>]
00:40:53 ◼ ► and i'm not just want to say like I I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2453">TS</a>]
00:40:56 ◼ ► glad with a kid can still have feelings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2456">TS</a>]
00:40:59 ◼ ► I mean in a way when it be it would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2459">TS</a>]
00:41:01 ◼ ► even weirder if they were sitting there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2461">TS</a>]
00:41:02 ◼ ► and like laughing at home no feeling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2462">TS</a>]
00:41:05 ◼ ► like that means that she's not dead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2465">TS</a>]
00:41:06 ◼ ► inside you know and that makes me happy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2466">TS</a>]
00:41:09 ◼ ► but I totally get what you're saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2469">TS</a>]
00:41:10 ◼ ► where it's it's it that's not that yes a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2470">TS</a>]
00:41:13 ◼ ► minefield yeah and-and-and you know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2473">TS</a>]
00:41:16 ◼ ► there's a part there's a part of my life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2476">TS</a>]
00:41:20 ◼ ► that I absolutely would not trade you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2480">TS</a>]
00:41:22 ◼ ► know the the the the degree to which I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2482">TS</a>]
00:41:27 ◼ ► see the world through emotions even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2487">TS</a>]
00:41:30 ◼ ► though i think over the years I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2490">TS</a>]
00:41:32 ◼ ► been accused by a lot of people of being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2492">TS</a>]
00:41:34 ◼ ► cold or of being you know emotionally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2494">TS</a>]
00:41:40 ◼ ► emotionally distant from other people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2500">TS</a>]
00:41:44 ◼ ► like I it i walked through a world that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2504">TS</a>]
00:41:48 ◼ ► is you know not just a rainbow of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2508">TS</a>]
00:41:51 ◼ ► emotions but also like into the infrared [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2511">TS</a>]
00:41:54 ◼ ► and x-ray up of emotion right I like I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2514">TS</a>]
00:42:00 ◼ ► seeing I'm seeing emotions in things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2520">TS</a>]
00:42:03 ◼ ► that do not have emotions and I'm having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2523">TS</a>]
00:42:05 ◼ ► an emotional response to things that do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2525">TS</a>]
00:42:06 ◼ ► not require one you have a promotional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2526">TS</a>]
00:42:09 ◼ ► response that maybe I say inappropriate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2529">TS</a>]
00:42:11 ◼ ► things out of out of line with what a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2531">TS</a>]
00:42:13 ◼ ► typical person we have about something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2533">TS</a>]
00:42:14 ◼ ► but and and and what that has always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2534">TS</a>]
00:42:17 ◼ ► what I've always imagined is that it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2537">TS</a>]
00:42:21 ◼ ► perception or something i'm seeing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2541">TS</a>]
00:42:22 ◼ ► another overlay or not seen it's not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2542">TS</a>]
00:42:25 ◼ ► seeing thing I am experiencing another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2545">TS</a>]
00:42:28 ◼ ► overlay almost like somebody somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2548">TS</a>]
00:42:30 ◼ ► who could imagine somebody who's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2550">TS</a>]
00:42:31 ◼ ► see themselves as a medium or a psychic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2551">TS</a>]
00:42:33 ◼ ► like having no no you know honestly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2553">TS</a>]
00:42:35 ◼ ► somebody who feels like you know what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2555">TS</a>]
00:42:37 ◼ ► knew this was gonna happen I i had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2557">TS</a>]
00:42:39 ◼ ► strong vision of exactly what happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2559">TS</a>]
00:42:42 ◼ ► yeah right something you can see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2562">TS</a>]
00:42:43 ◼ ► something that other people don't see I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2563">TS</a>]
00:42:45 ◼ ► was at a party this weekend in somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2565">TS</a>]
00:42:48 ◼ ► somebody's like to believe in ghosts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2568">TS</a>]
00:42:49 ◼ ► John and I was like well I do not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2569">TS</a>]
00:42:52 ◼ ► believe in ghosts however i have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2572">TS</a>]
00:42:55 ◼ ► terrorized by ghosts and so in being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2575">TS</a>]
00:42:59 ◼ ► terrorized by them i absolutely believe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2579">TS</a>]
00:43:02 ◼ ► in them but i do not believe in them cut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2582">TS</a>]
00:43:04 ◼ ► it's so great and you know and they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2584">TS</a>]
00:43:06 ◼ ► like what it would do what do you mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2586">TS</a>]
00:43:08 ◼ ► and I was like well for instance i do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2588">TS</a>]
00:43:09 ◼ ► not believe in God and yet I do not know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2589">TS</a>]
00:43:11 ◼ ► whether or not i believe in god and so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2591">TS</a>]
00:43:14 ◼ ► cannot say that i do not believe in God [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2594">TS</a>]
00:43:16 ◼ ► but I don't believe in God but I do very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2596">TS</a>]
00:43:20 ◼ ► much believe in god I mean how much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2600">TS</a>]
00:43:22 ◼ ► clearer could I be and that is it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2602">TS</a>]
00:43:28 ◼ ► perfectly consistent from within but uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2608">TS</a>]
00:43:33 ◼ ► but like not only impossible to explain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2613">TS</a>]
00:43:37 ◼ ► but also like why would I bother [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2617">TS</a>]
00:43:39 ◼ ► what was right what what am I trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2619">TS</a>]
00:43:41 ◼ ► communicate like it was sometimes I will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2621">TS</a>]
00:43:45 ◼ ► ashen faced because all my pillows turn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2625">TS</a>]
00:43:50 ◼ ► it doesn't mean that i believe that my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2630">TS</a>]
00:43:52 ◼ ► that my or anyone elses pillows upturn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2632">TS</a>]
00:43:55 ◼ ► towel if you believed it would be more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2635">TS</a>]
00:43:56 ◼ ► plausible if that's the thing that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2636">TS</a>]
00:43:58 ◼ ► what people aren't getting it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2638">TS</a>]
00:43:59 ◼ ► it's like that's the thing about reality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2639">TS</a>]
00:44:01 ◼ ► is it doesn't need you to believe in it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2641">TS</a>]
00:44:02 ◼ ► like if something if you know or feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2642">TS</a>]
00:44:05 ◼ ► knowing that it's not real makes it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2645">TS</a>]
00:44:07 ◼ ► worse not better we're making the line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2647">TS</a>]
00:44:07 ◼ ► worse not better we're making the line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/2647">TS</a>]
01:00:00 ◼ ► a feeling that's a kind of fearful well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/3600">TS</a>]
01:00:02 ◼ ► kind of thing versus to like oh my god [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/3602">TS</a>]
01:00:05 ◼ ► vibrating feeling of like what is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/3605">TS</a>]
01:00:10 ◼ ► yeah yeah what I mean what I didn't used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/3610">TS</a>]
01:00:12 ◼ ► to feel it what I now feel is I wake up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/3612">TS</a>]
01:00:15 ◼ ► in the morning and already I am I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/3615">TS</a>]
01:00:17 ◼ ► struggling to catch my breath and just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/3617">TS</a>]
01:00:20 ◼ ► all day 1 i'm just like just struggling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/3620">TS</a>]
01:00:23 ◼ ► to catch my breath like I have a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/3623">TS</a>]
01:00:26 ◼ ► like I have an i'm having a mild asthma [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/3626">TS</a>]
01:00:29 ◼ ► yeah and I never used to have that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/3629">TS</a>]
01:00:32 ◼ ► feeling at all I mean justjust it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/3632">TS</a>]
01:00:36 ◼ ► it was the feeling that I had an hour [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/3636">TS</a>]
01:00:39 ◼ ► before I went on stage you know like not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/3639">TS</a>]
01:00:42 ◼ ► just like butterflies in your stomach [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/3642">TS</a>]
01:00:43 ◼ ► kind of thing you have described this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/3643">TS</a>]
01:00:44 ◼ ► before right that but it when somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/3644">TS</a>]
01:00:47 ◼ ► says hey we want you to play a show i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/3647">TS</a>]
01:00:48 ◼ ► always say great and then immediately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/3648">TS</a>]
01:00:51 ◼ ► start to pretend that I didn't say that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/3651">TS</a>]
01:00:54 ◼ ► and a month or two go by and they sent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/3654">TS</a>]
01:00:58 ◼ ► me emails like that shows coming up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/3658">TS</a>]
01:00:59 ◼ ► I'm like I just like delete but as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/3659">TS</a>]
01:01:03 ◼ ► show starts to loom i start to wish that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/3663">TS</a>]
01:01:07 ◼ ► I had not agreed to do it even if I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/3667">TS</a>]
01:01:11 ◼ ► even if it's like the beginning of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/3671">TS</a>]
01:01:12 ◼ ► tour I start to think like why did I say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/3672">TS</a>]
01:01:14 ◼ ► that I would think this and as the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/3674">TS</a>]
01:01:16 ◼ ► gets closer I start to feel like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/3676">TS</a>]
01:01:18 ◼ ► really hope that there's a storm and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/3678">TS</a>]
01:01:22 ◼ ► hope there's a storm and the show's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/3682">TS</a>]
01:01:24 ◼ ► I telling you that feeling yeah and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/3684">TS</a>]
01:01:27 ◼ ► I'm like what if the wheel came off of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/3687">TS</a>]
01:01:29 ◼ ► my car and I had a mild accident where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/3689">TS</a>]
01:01:31 ◼ ► no one was hurt but enough of an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/3691">TS</a>]
01:01:34 ◼ ► accident that I had a plausible reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/3694">TS</a>]
01:01:37 ◼ ► for naught but a lot of people think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/3697">TS</a>]
01:01:39 ◼ ► that's like Dylan's motorcycle accident [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/3699">TS</a>]
01:01:41 ◼ ► was he just like laid down and said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/3701">TS</a>]
01:01:44 ◼ ► oh yeah I me now we're back to 80 women [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/3704">TS</a>]
01:01:46 ◼ ► and dylanologists but a lot of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/3706">TS</a>]
01:01:48 ◼ ► think that like he was he really had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/3708">TS</a>]
01:01:51 ◼ ► just kind of reached the end of it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/3711">TS</a>]
01:01:53 ◼ ► that he you know kinda took a dive and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/3713">TS</a>]
01:01:56 ◼ ► was not hurt nearly as bad but like just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/3716">TS</a>]
01:01:58 ◼ ► needed that time to like just not have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/3718">TS</a>]
01:02:01 ◼ ► yeah I have no I have no doubt about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/3721">TS</a>]
01:02:03 ◼ ► and I've told you about right the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/3723">TS</a>]
01:02:05 ◼ ► time that that did happen when I I'd put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/3725">TS</a>]
01:02:07 ◼ ► together a show with david bazan and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/3727">TS</a>]
01:02:10 ◼ ► and my friend Laura my radkin and we had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/3730">TS</a>]
01:02:13 ◼ ► booked the triple door in Seattle and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/3733">TS</a>]
01:02:15 ◼ ► we'd all learned each other songs and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/3735">TS</a>]
01:02:18 ◼ ► were going to get up on stage and we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/3738">TS</a>]
01:02:20 ◼ ► gonna play for of Kathleen's all I saw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/3740">TS</a>]
01:02:23 ◼ ► the videos that we've got something in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/3743">TS</a>]
01:02:25 ◼ ► yes my god that was exquisite so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/3745">TS</a>]
01:02:28 ◼ ► was so so we had this we have this show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/3748">TS</a>]
01:02:31 ◼ ► that we had worked out and it was all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/3751">TS</a>]
01:02:35 ◼ ► just this imagination of like what if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/3755">TS</a>]
01:02:37 ◼ ► Dave and Kathleen and I and Laura all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/3757">TS</a>]
01:02:40 ◼ ► just were a band and we did four five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/3760">TS</a>]
01:02:44 ◼ ► songs of each other students and and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/3764">TS</a>]
01:02:46 ◼ ► it was a crazy idea but once we got in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/3766">TS</a>]
01:02:48 ◼ ► the room there was real energy and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/3768">TS</a>]
01:02:52 ◼ ► and the song sounded incredible that way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/3772">TS</a>]
01:02:54 ◼ ► and we went we were it was a summer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/3774">TS</a>]
01:02:57 ◼ ► weekend that we were sitting in my house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/3777">TS</a>]
01:03:00 ◼ ► but the windows open and the doors open [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/3780">TS</a>]
01:03:03 ◼ ► just playing our music and it was one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/3783">TS</a>]
01:03:06 ◼ ► those sort of pure musician experiences [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/3786">TS</a>]
01:03:08 ◼ ► where it's just like I just I don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/3788">TS</a>]
01:03:10 ◼ ► this to end I mean this is hard it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/3790">TS</a>]
01:03:12 ◼ ► hard to learn this music but like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/3792">TS</a>]
01:03:15 ◼ ► the best kind of hard and then we went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/3795">TS</a>]
01:03:17 ◼ ► down to the triple door there was a line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/3797">TS</a>]
01:03:20 ◼ ► of people out the door to see the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/3800">TS</a>]
01:03:22 ◼ ► we were Hearst on stage we ran through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/3802">TS</a>]
01:03:25 ◼ ► four five songs it was like and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/3805">TS</a>]
01:03:27 ◼ ► sounded incredible and this was exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/3807">TS</a>]
01:03:29 ◼ ► the room for it and we were just looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/3809">TS</a>]
01:03:32 ◼ ► at each other like it's going to be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/3812">TS</a>]
01:03:34 ◼ ► magical night this is already a magic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/3814">TS</a>]
01:03:36 ◼ ► night and then it started to rain in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/3816">TS</a>]
01:03:40 ◼ ► theater and we're standing on stage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/3820">TS</a>]
01:03:43 ◼ ► we're playing like we're playing our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/3823">TS</a>]
01:03:46 ◼ ► song still we're in the middle of a song [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/3826">TS</a>]
01:03:48 ◼ ► and throughout the theater it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/3828">TS</a>]
01:03:52 ◼ ► rain and not a light rain like storm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/3832">TS</a>]
01:03:56 ◼ ► rain and we're where we continue the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/3836">TS</a>]
01:04:00 ◼ ► song and we're all looking out at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/3840">TS</a>]
01:04:03 ◼ ► seats as they get drenched and it's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/3843">TS</a>]
01:04:08 ◼ ► surreal that like we don't stop we don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/3848">TS</a>]
01:04:12 ◼ ► stop playing and all of a sudden like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/3852">TS</a>]
01:04:14 ◼ ► the staff of the restaurant is screaming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/3854">TS</a>]
01:04:17 ◼ ► and running around and and we're still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/3857">TS</a>]
01:04:24 ◼ ► this is weird and we get to the end of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/3864">TS</a>]
01:04:27 ◼ ► the tune and we stare out at the at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/3867">TS</a>]
01:04:31 ◼ ► theater which is now a scene of complete [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/3871">TS</a>]
01:04:34 ◼ ► devastation and i'm standing on stage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/3874">TS</a>]
01:04:39 ◼ ► still thinking like well we better get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/3879">TS</a>]
01:04:42 ◼ ► this cleaned up and there's like four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/3882">TS</a>]
01:04:44 ◼ ► inches of water on everything and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/3884">TS</a>]
01:04:48 ◼ ► dawns on us suddenly that like it's over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/3888">TS</a>]
01:04:52 ◼ ► what what happened was the restaurant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/3892">TS</a>]
01:04:55 ◼ ► somehow the drain had plugged and all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/3895">TS</a>]
01:05:00 ◼ ► the drainage water from a night of from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/3900">TS</a>]
01:05:05 ◼ ► a from a big dinner service all of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/3905">TS</a>]
01:05:07 ◼ ► greywater uh from the dishwasher in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/3907">TS</a>]
01:05:10 ◼ ► kitchen had pooled in the floor but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/3910">TS</a>]
01:05:18 ◼ ► know underneath their floor but above [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/3918">TS</a>]
01:05:19 ◼ ► our ceiling until it was God eight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/3919">TS</a>]
01:05:23 ◼ ► inches of dirty water and then it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/3923">TS</a>]
01:05:25 ◼ ► all at once just fell just soaked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/3925">TS</a>]
01:05:31 ◼ ► through the soaked through the material [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/3931">TS</a>]
01:05:33 ◼ ► of the ceiling and then just storm it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/3933">TS</a>]
01:05:38 ◼ ► was surreal and it came down not as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/3938">TS</a>]
01:05:40 ◼ ► falling ceiling but as rain dirty rain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/3940">TS</a>]
01:05:45 ◼ ► and and we were we were playing the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/3945">TS</a>]
01:05:50 ◼ ► song before doors were opening right if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/3950">TS</a>]
01:05:53 ◼ ► that had if it had taken a half an hour [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/3953">TS</a>]
01:05:55 ◼ ► longer that dirty rain would have fallen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/3955">TS</a>]
01:05:57 ◼ ► on a on a full house and the end of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/3957">TS</a>]
01:06:01 ◼ ► line of the crowd down the street and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/3961">TS</a>]
01:06:03 ◼ ► what had happened was I had probably two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/3963">TS</a>]
01:06:06 ◼ ► hours before would have been so glad if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/3966">TS</a>]
01:06:10 ◼ ► to to imagine that happening right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/3970">TS</a>]
01:06:15 ◼ ► because of that pre-show anxiety but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/3975">TS</a>]
01:06:18 ◼ ► had crossed the threshold and was into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/3978">TS</a>]
01:06:21 ◼ ► the show like doors are doors are in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/3981">TS</a>]
01:06:24 ◼ ► five and all of us onstage had crossed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/3984">TS</a>]
01:06:27 ◼ ► that threshold we were we were over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/3987">TS</a>]
01:06:30 ◼ ► hump and were in show mode and it was so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/3990">TS</a>]
01:06:36 ◼ ► that show being canceled right in front [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/3996">TS</a>]
01:06:38 ◼ ► of us and we had all put our energy on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/3998">TS</a>]
01:06:42 ◼ ► the table and I'd never had that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4002">TS</a>]
01:06:47 ◼ ► experience before where the energy was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4007">TS</a>]
01:06:49 ◼ ► out it was on the table and it was ready [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4009">TS</a>]
01:06:52 ◼ ► to go and then there was no where to put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4012">TS</a>]
01:06:54 ◼ ► it and we none of us had had that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4014">TS</a>]
01:06:58 ◼ ► experience before and we were we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4018">TS</a>]
01:07:00 ◼ ► sitting backstage in a complete days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4020">TS</a>]
01:07:02 ◼ ► like our our whole show energy was out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4022">TS</a>]
01:07:06 ◼ ► of us but had not gone anywhere and was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4026">TS</a>]
01:07:10 ◼ ► not being reciprocated or you know there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4030">TS</a>]
01:07:12 ◼ ► was nowhere for it to go to live and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4032">TS</a>]
01:07:16 ◼ ► it was seriously like like we had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4036">TS</a>]
01:07:18 ◼ ► survived like we'd all been struck by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4038">TS</a>]
01:07:20 ◼ ► lightning and their what it was we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4040">TS</a>]
01:07:26 ◼ ► nervous could talk it was it was very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4046">TS</a>]
01:07:29 ◼ ► confusing our feelings were outside of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4049">TS</a>]
01:07:34 ◼ ► and so the next day somebody who had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4054">TS</a>]
01:07:37 ◼ ► been it who had one of the people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4057">TS</a>]
01:07:40 ◼ ► had had meant to come to the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4060">TS</a>]
01:07:41 ◼ ► contacted us and said hey I'm one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4061">TS</a>]
01:07:44 ◼ ► directors of the woodland park zoo would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4064">TS</a>]
01:07:46 ◼ ► you guys like to come feed the giraffes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4066">TS</a>]
01:07:52 ◼ ► and so all of us together went to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4072">TS</a>]
01:07:54 ◼ ► zoo and spent a couple of hours inside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4074">TS</a>]
01:07:58 ◼ ► the giraffe enclosure just hand-feeding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4078">TS</a>]
01:08:00 ◼ ► giraffes and it was a it was a brilliant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4080">TS</a>]
01:08:04 ◼ ► insight that this person at the zoo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4084">TS</a>]
01:08:08 ◼ ► somehow recognized either saw or just or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4088">TS</a>]
01:08:13 ◼ ► or we just got lucky or God was watching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4093">TS</a>]
01:08:16 ◼ ► out or something but somehow going and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4096">TS</a>]
01:08:20 ◼ ► hand-feeding giraffes for a couple of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4100">TS</a>]
01:08:23 ◼ ► was it allowed us to collect all that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4103">TS</a>]
01:08:26 ◼ ► emotion back and you know that and feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4106">TS</a>]
01:08:31 ◼ ► like it had been used or or it's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4111">TS</a>]
01:08:35 ◼ ► hard to explain but what I mean for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4115">TS</a>]
01:08:38 ◼ ► month afterward I think we all just sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4118">TS</a>]
01:08:40 ◼ ► of walked around in a in a very strange [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4120">TS</a>]
01:08:42 ◼ ► state not an unpleasant one but like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4122">TS</a>]
01:08:46 ◼ ► singular one where you're where you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4126">TS</a>]
01:08:49 ◼ ► off your actually on stage ready to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4129">TS</a>]
01:08:51 ◼ ► and and the show is cancelled my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4131">TS</a>]
01:08:56 ◼ ► emotions are real emotions are real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4136">TS</a>]
01:08:59 ◼ ► holy shit that must have been so strange [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4139">TS</a>]
01:09:04 ◼ ► yeah I still you know you can hear it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4144">TS</a>]
01:09:07 ◼ ► just been describing it that I go back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4147">TS</a>]
01:09:09 ◼ ► into a place of like profound confusion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4149">TS</a>]
01:09:14 ◼ ► about what the Iran I'm like I'm feeling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4154">TS</a>]
01:09:17 ◼ ► it again remember that feeling just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4157">TS</a>]
01:09:19 ◼ ► what does one do with what does one do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4159">TS</a>]
01:09:23 ◼ ► when there is no climax and so you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4163">TS</a>]
01:09:28 ◼ ► the energy and maybe i'm repeating what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4168">TS</a>]
01:09:30 ◼ ► you said but it's almost like there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4170">TS</a>]
01:09:31 ◼ ► no different receptors there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4171">TS</a>]
01:09:33 ◼ ► receptacles right energy just it didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4173">TS</a>]
01:09:35 ◼ ► exactly dissipate but like where did it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4175">TS</a>]
01:09:37 ◼ ► go because it was kind of still didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4177">TS</a>]
01:09:40 ◼ ► really you know it's you just extend of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4180">TS</a>]
01:09:43 ◼ ► real emotion you load up the torpedo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4183">TS</a>]
01:09:46 ◼ ► tubes and then you know nothing you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4186">TS</a>]
01:09:51 ◼ ► surface and go back home and it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4191">TS</a>]
01:09:53 ◼ ► like whoa whoa that's it there's a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4193">TS</a>]
01:09:58 ◼ ► it feels very dangerous to be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4198">TS</a>]
01:10:01 ◼ ► sailing into port with with full torpedo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4201">TS</a>]
01:10:07 ◼ ► yes I'm sorry this is this is so such a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4207">TS</a>]
01:10:10 ◼ ► wonderful topic and i get i'm hearing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4210">TS</a>]
01:10:12 ◼ ► dick jokes in my head haha alright but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4212">TS</a>]
01:10:18 ◼ ► yeah are you can you can you and do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4218">TS</a>]
01:10:24 ◼ ► choose to locate what this with any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4224">TS</a>]
01:10:28 ◼ ► specificity with those emotions are when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4228">TS</a>]
01:10:30 ◼ ► firefighters and you feel like a boy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4230">TS</a>]
01:10:32 ◼ ► something's going on like it is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4232">TS</a>]
01:10:35 ◼ ► are you aware of like how that evidence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4235">TS</a>]
01:10:37 ◼ ► is in your feelings thoughts and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4237">TS</a>]
01:10:39 ◼ ► maybe even physicality are but can you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4239">TS</a>]
01:10:41 ◼ ► locate what it is that you've that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4241">TS</a>]
01:10:43 ◼ ► making you feel that way what that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4243">TS</a>]
01:10:44 ◼ ► feeling is one this is the thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4244">TS</a>]
01:10:46 ◼ ► this ultimately is is the actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4246">TS</a>]
01:10:49 ◼ ► learning experience of this of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4249">TS</a>]
01:10:53 ◼ ► undertaking the thing i have to learn is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4253">TS</a>]
01:10:56 ◼ ► not what this you know what the state [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4256">TS</a>]
01:11:03 ◼ ► is on red control right because that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4263">TS</a>]
01:11:06 ◼ ► just interesting and easy to learn and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4266">TS</a>]
01:11:12 ◼ ► that is just policy but the thing i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4272">TS</a>]
01:11:15 ◼ ► to learn is what is going on and what is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4275">TS</a>]
01:11:20 ◼ ► going on inside me and how can I turn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4280">TS</a>]
01:11:23 ◼ ► that energy to be more useful to people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4283">TS</a>]
01:11:27 ◼ ► and less you know like my anxiousness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4287">TS</a>]
01:11:31 ◼ ► and my my anxiousness is a sign that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4291">TS</a>]
01:11:34 ◼ ► really think that this is important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4294">TS</a>]
01:11:36 ◼ ► absolutely and that if you don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4296">TS</a>]
01:11:38 ◼ ► about like stage fright or whatever you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4298">TS</a>]
01:11:39 ◼ ► want to call it right there are those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4299">TS</a>]
01:11:40 ◼ ► butterflies like you and I think we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4300">TS</a>]
01:11:42 ◼ ► talked about this but like if you didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4302">TS</a>]
01:11:43 ◼ ► feel anything before you went onstage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4303">TS</a>]
01:11:44 ◼ ► for two years like that should tell you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4304">TS</a>]
01:11:47 ◼ ► something you're not challenging [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4307">TS</a>]
01:11:48 ◼ ► yourself or you stop caring you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4308">TS</a>]
01:11:50 ◼ ► right but how do i turn that energy so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4310">TS</a>]
01:11:53 ◼ ► that I am a more effective public [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4313">TS</a>]
01:11:55 ◼ ► servant so that I am somebody who is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4315">TS</a>]
01:11:58 ◼ ► more useful to people as an agent of of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4318">TS</a>]
01:12:04 ◼ ► getting things happening and and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4324">TS</a>]
01:12:08 ◼ ► making good policy right and not get it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4328">TS</a>]
01:12:13 ◼ ► it isn't about my comfort in and of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4333">TS</a>]
01:12:18 ◼ ► itself it is about like my discomfort as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4338">TS</a>]
01:12:21 ◼ ► another as another lever and and so i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4341">TS</a>]
01:12:30 ◼ ► i'm very aware of it and and and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4350">TS</a>]
01:12:33 ◼ ► realized like when up when I am asked to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4353">TS</a>]
01:12:37 ◼ ► write policy about things that I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4357">TS</a>]
01:12:43 ◼ ► like our out of my out of my world of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4363">TS</a>]
01:12:52 ◼ ► I i don't really support me i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4372">TS</a>]
01:12:55 ◼ ► really have a I don't have an emotional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4375">TS</a>]
01:12:58 ◼ ► block about like reading about stuff i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4378">TS</a>]
01:13:00 ◼ ► don't understand asking people who know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4380">TS</a>]
01:13:05 ◼ ► who can explain what i don't understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4385">TS</a>]
01:13:07 ◼ ► to me like that stuff is just that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4387">TS</a>]
01:13:09 ◼ ► just exciting and something that says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4389">TS</a>]
01:13:12 ◼ ► you say that he feels like that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4392">TS</a>]
01:13:13 ◼ ► work that's the work that part that part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4393">TS</a>]
01:13:15 ◼ ► is is not that ambiguous it's there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4395">TS</a>]
01:13:17 ◼ ► thing over here that has to be dealt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4397">TS</a>]
01:13:19 ◼ ► with and then when you're done dealing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4399">TS</a>]
01:13:21 ◼ ► with it there's other things to deal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4401">TS</a>]
01:13:22 ◼ ► I think it's much more to do with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4402">TS</a>]
01:13:25 ◼ ► fact that i am a person who it you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4405">TS</a>]
01:13:31 ◼ ► i am i am a personality characterized by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4411">TS</a>]
01:13:33 ◼ ► self-doubt and a certain amount of it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4413">TS</a>]
01:13:36 ◼ ► healthy self doubt and a certain amount [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4416">TS</a>]
01:13:38 ◼ ► of it is unhealthy self-doubt and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4418">TS</a>]
01:13:40 ◼ ► almost always trying to move the needle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4420">TS</a>]
01:13:42 ◼ ► back to healthy self down right um but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4422">TS</a>]
01:13:46 ◼ ► am in a world where where you the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4426">TS</a>]
01:13:50 ◼ ► expectation is that you express no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4430">TS</a>]
01:13:52 ◼ ► self-doubt and right and the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4432">TS</a>]
01:13:57 ◼ ► candidates do not show very much self [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4437">TS</a>]
01:14:00 ◼ ► down i happen to know that the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4440">TS</a>]
01:14:04 ◼ ► considerable self-doubt they are human [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4444">TS</a>]
01:14:07 ◼ ► beings and I and I like them and there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4447">TS</a>]
01:14:09 ◼ ► are there you know all three of the guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4449">TS</a>]
01:14:11 ◼ ► I'm running against do have like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4451">TS</a>]
01:14:14 ◼ ► emotional lives but when I walk into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4454">TS</a>]
01:14:19 ◼ ► firefighters union this afternoon and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4459">TS</a>]
01:14:22 ◼ ► they start talking to me about their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4462">TS</a>]
01:14:24 ◼ ► pensions and I start answering questions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4464">TS</a>]
01:14:27 ◼ ► about you know my feelings about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4467">TS</a>]
01:14:29 ◼ ► firefighters pensions and how important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4469">TS</a>]
01:14:31 ◼ ► those are that there is no room in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4471">TS</a>]
01:14:36 ◼ ► conversation for me for my self-doubt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4476">TS</a>]
01:14:39 ◼ ► because they don't have time for it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4479">TS</a>]
01:14:42 ◼ ► know they just want to hear whether or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4482">TS</a>]
01:14:45 ◼ ► not i support their position and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4485">TS</a>]
01:14:49 ◼ ► being in in those were in those rooms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4489">TS</a>]
01:14:51 ◼ ► because as a as a musician and as an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4491">TS</a>]
01:14:54 ◼ ► artist and as somebody who was living in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4494">TS</a>]
01:14:56 ◼ ► the world that I had made for myself I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4496">TS</a>]
01:15:04 ◼ ► conversation with somebody and they had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4504">TS</a>]
01:15:05 ◼ ► no room for myself down I left that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4505">TS</a>]
01:15:08 ◼ ► conversation and said you are a monster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4508">TS</a>]
01:15:12 ◼ ► I'm not you know I'm not here to I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4512">TS</a>]
01:15:16 ◼ ► here to perform for you done to yourself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4516">TS</a>]
01:15:17 ◼ ► down i mean i think it's slightly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4517">TS</a>]
01:15:19 ◼ ► different than the well stroll but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4519">TS</a>]
01:15:20 ◼ ► think the self-doubt can be a companion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4520">TS</a>]
01:15:22 ◼ ► in some ways it keeps you keep the kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4522">TS</a>]
01:15:24 ◼ ► of honest it jumps you it keeps you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4524">TS</a>]
01:15:26 ◼ ► practical in some cases and maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4526">TS</a>]
01:15:29 ◼ ► something that doesn't help you every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4529">TS</a>]
01:15:30 ◼ ► single time I mean that becomes like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4530">TS</a>]
01:15:33 ◼ ► companion in some ways that an easy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4533">TS</a>]
01:15:35 ◼ ► companion but I I don't think that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4535">TS</a>]
01:15:37 ◼ ► horrible thing but it's more it's more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4537">TS</a>]
01:15:40 ◼ ► it's more effective than normal when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4540">TS</a>]
01:15:43 ◼ ► you're walking around being a musician [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4543">TS</a>]
01:15:46 ◼ ► introduce that little friend of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4546">TS</a>]
01:15:48 ◼ ► at the firefighters union yeah I and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4548">TS</a>]
01:15:50 ◼ ► that thing is I can't live without it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4550">TS</a>]
01:15:51 ◼ ► that it that is a that is one of a part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4551">TS</a>]
01:15:54 ◼ ► of my character and it will I think make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4554">TS</a>]
01:15:56 ◼ ► me a better public servant but I'm being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4556">TS</a>]
01:16:00 ◼ ► asked to perform in a circus where that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4560">TS</a>]
01:16:07 ◼ ► is not one of the that's not what people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4567">TS</a>]
01:16:09 ◼ ► paid the ticket price for right you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4569">TS</a>]
01:16:14 ◼ ► don't you don't sit in front of the in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4574">TS</a>]
01:16:16 ◼ ► front of a an executive board and say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4576">TS</a>]
01:16:20 ◼ ► you know that question has played me and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4580">TS</a>]
01:16:24 ◼ ► not because I worry about your pensions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4584">TS</a>]
01:16:27 ◼ ► but more because pensions are emblematic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4587">TS</a>]
01:16:30 ◼ ► of a of a deeper question of that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4590">TS</a>]
01:16:35 ◼ ► role that the state plays and providing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4595">TS</a>]
01:16:37 ◼ ► for you know and that's just their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4597">TS</a>]
01:16:38 ◼ ► already like King right there looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4598">TS</a>]
01:16:42 ◼ ► they're like that's not where we don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4602">TS</a>]
01:16:44 ◼ ► you know we this what we didn't sign up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4604">TS</a>]
01:16:46 ◼ ► for a class we signed up for a 30-minute [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4606">TS</a>]
01:16:51 ◼ ► interview with you where you tell us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4611">TS</a>]
01:16:53 ◼ ► either what we want to hear or you couch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4613">TS</a>]
01:16:56 ◼ ► or give us an idea what we have to fight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4616">TS</a>]
01:16:59 ◼ ► oh yeah that's right and I've described [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4619">TS</a>]
01:17:01 ◼ ► this to you before right that I've heard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4621">TS</a>]
01:17:03 ◼ ► from several people like people come up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4623">TS</a>]
01:17:06 ◼ ► to me and say I don't like your opponent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4626">TS</a>]
01:17:08 ◼ ► but I know where he stands and the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4628">TS</a>]
01:17:12 ◼ ► that I know where he stands allows me to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4632">TS</a>]
01:17:15 ◼ ► and i have a 40 million dollar hole in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4635">TS</a>]
01:17:18 ◼ ► the ground downtown that I'm two days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4638">TS</a>]
01:17:20 ◼ ► away from pouring concrete into and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4640">TS</a>]
01:17:24 ◼ ► fact that your opponent is either for or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4644">TS</a>]
01:17:26 ◼ ► against it is less important to me than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4646">TS</a>]
01:17:29 ◼ ► that I know exactly what he's going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4649">TS</a>]
01:17:31 ◼ ► do and so although i don't like him and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4651">TS</a>]
01:17:37 ◼ ► the fact that I don't know what you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4657">TS</a>]
01:17:38 ◼ ► going to do is scarier to me then that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4658">TS</a>]
01:17:41 ◼ ► do know that he is against me and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4661">TS</a>]
01:17:44 ◼ ► incredibly fascinating and I just go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4664">TS</a>]
01:17:46 ◼ ► because from you know from where I stand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4666">TS</a>]
01:17:49 ◼ ► like the first time somebody said that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4669">TS</a>]
01:17:51 ◼ ► to me I was like that they said you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4671">TS</a>]
01:17:53 ◼ ► it's really kind of scary to us that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4673">TS</a>]
01:17:55 ◼ ► don't know what you're going to do and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4675">TS</a>]
01:17:58 ◼ ► isn't that great you're the agent of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4678">TS</a>]
01:18:01 ◼ ► chaos and they're like it is not at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4681">TS</a>]
01:18:03 ◼ ► great and I'm like but but you mean you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4683">TS</a>]
01:18:06 ◼ ► have a sense that i'm going to support [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4686">TS</a>]
01:18:07 ◼ ► you know like it was an environmental [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4687">TS</a>]
01:18:10 ◼ ► group talking to me and I was like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4690">TS</a>]
01:18:11 ◼ ► have a sense that i am like 1,000% an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4691">TS</a>]
01:18:14 ◼ ► environmentalist and they're like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4694">TS</a>]
01:18:16 ◼ ► we do have a sense of it and we also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4696">TS</a>]
01:18:19 ◼ ► know the not sure who you gonna deliver [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4699">TS</a>]
01:18:21 ◼ ► the built-in how yeah they're like we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4701">TS</a>]
01:18:24 ◼ ► very excited about it but your opponent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4704">TS</a>]
01:18:26 ◼ ► has been a reliable and like gray [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4706">TS</a>]
01:18:30 ◼ ► colored vote on behalf of the basic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4710">TS</a>]
01:18:33 ◼ ► environmental package he's he doesn't is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4713">TS</a>]
01:18:38 ◼ ► not inspiring but he is reliable and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4718">TS</a>]
01:18:43 ◼ ► like but I mean don't you want inspiring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4723">TS</a>]
01:18:45 ◼ ► and they're like well what we want is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4725">TS</a>]
01:18:47 ◼ ► reliably inspiring and I was and and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4727">TS</a>]
01:18:51 ◼ ► know and facing that and being when well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4731">TS</a>]
01:18:54 ◼ ► reliably inspiring that's like you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4734">TS</a>]
01:18:56 ◼ ► talking about lawful good they described [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4736">TS</a>]
01:18:59 ◼ ► it the hole in the ground situation you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4739">TS</a>]
01:19:01 ◼ ► describe this before but i really get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4741">TS</a>]
01:19:03 ◼ ► get it now I get it sits in a way you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4743">TS</a>]
01:19:06 ◼ ► know it reminds you of this is kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4746">TS</a>]
01:19:07 ◼ ► obscure but it's almost like finding out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4747">TS</a>]
01:19:10 ◼ ► what judge you've been assigned like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4750">TS</a>]
01:19:12 ◼ ► when you're when you're on one side of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4752">TS</a>]
01:19:13 ◼ ► the of the of the case or another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4753">TS</a>]
01:19:15 ◼ ► like when you find out what judge has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4755">TS</a>]
01:19:17 ◼ ► been assigned to your case and there may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4757">TS</a>]
01:19:18 ◼ ► be some judges that are way more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4758">TS</a>]
01:19:20 ◼ ► favorable to your particular point of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4760">TS</a>]
01:19:22 ◼ ► view than others but like once you find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4762">TS</a>]
01:19:23 ◼ ► out the judges you have to craft a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4763">TS</a>]
01:19:26 ◼ ► of offense or defense depending on who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4766">TS</a>]
01:19:28 ◼ ► that person is right so even if it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4768">TS</a>]
01:19:30 ◼ ► hanging judge and you're the defense at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4770">TS</a>]
01:19:33 ◼ ► least now you you it's a noble thing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4773">TS</a>]
01:19:38 ◼ ► preferable but an officer's even the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4778">TS</a>]
01:19:40 ◼ ► rain analogy but like it's you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4780">TS</a>]
01:19:41 ◼ ► wouldn't want some some new cat coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4781">TS</a>]
01:19:43 ◼ ► in there who's like a real freethinker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4783">TS</a>]
01:19:45 ◼ ► you'd be like well i know i need to know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4785">TS</a>]
01:19:47 ◼ ► like how much just got a case going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4787">TS</a>]
01:19:48 ◼ ► cost to defend like who do I have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4788">TS</a>]
01:19:50 ◼ ► bring it is that where expert witnesses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4790">TS</a>]
01:19:52 ◼ ► look let me look at your track record [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4792">TS</a>]
01:19:53 ◼ ► and see how you tend to adjudicate these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4793">TS</a>]
01:19:55 ◼ ► things given certain conditions right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4795">TS</a>]
01:19:58 ◼ ► that's much more desirable than going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4798">TS</a>]
01:19:59 ◼ ► like here somebody who really believes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4799">TS</a>]
01:20:01 ◼ ► in justice like okay great thank ya like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4801">TS</a>]
01:20:03 ◼ ► what is this great one that's and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4803">TS</a>]
01:20:05 ◼ ► thing about a city council from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4805">TS</a>]
01:20:06 ◼ ► perspective of all these groups is what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4806">TS</a>]
01:20:11 ◼ ► they're looking for is five out of nine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4811">TS</a>]
01:20:15 ◼ ► they're not you know they did a the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4815">TS</a>]
01:20:19 ◼ ► vast majority of these groups do not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4819">TS</a>]
01:20:20 ◼ ► look at individual council people in as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4820">TS</a>]
01:20:29 ◼ ► individual council person is going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4829">TS</a>]
01:20:31 ◼ ► fall in a in a split decision and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4831">TS</a>]
01:20:35 ◼ ► everybody wants five reliable votes the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4835">TS</a>]
01:20:40 ◼ ► environmentalist 15 reliable votes the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4840">TS</a>]
01:20:42 ◼ ► transit nerds 15 reliable votes the cops [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4842">TS</a>]
01:20:45 ◼ ► want five reliable votes and so an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4845">TS</a>]
01:20:48 ◼ ► election like this is there that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4848">TS</a>]
01:20:50 ◼ ► for them it's much more of a scorecard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4850">TS</a>]
01:20:53 ◼ ► and they say okay we've got this person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4853">TS</a>]
01:20:57 ◼ ► and this person they are you know where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4857">TS</a>]
01:21:00 ◼ ► the incumbent they're doing well in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4860">TS</a>]
01:21:02 ◼ ► race and we know that their vote for us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4862">TS</a>]
01:21:04 ◼ ► and now there's these other seats where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4864">TS</a>]
01:21:07 ◼ ► it's unclear who's going to win and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4867">TS</a>]
01:21:10 ◼ ► need to know like where the weather the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4870">TS</a>]
01:21:14 ◼ ► candidates are vote for us or not and in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4874">TS</a>]
01:21:17 ◼ ► incumbent and everybody knows exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4877">TS</a>]
01:21:20 ◼ ► where he fits into their scorecard right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4880">TS</a>]
01:21:24 ◼ ► and and unfortunately for me of everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4884">TS</a>]
01:21:30 ◼ ► in the race in the you know of all 65 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4890">TS</a>]
01:21:33 ◼ ► people or whatever who are running for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4893">TS</a>]
01:21:36 ◼ ► I'm the one that is the most unknowable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4896">TS</a>]
01:21:40 ◼ ► for everyone for the cops and ru [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4900">TS</a>]
01:21:44 ◼ ► accounting for how higher profile is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4904">TS</a>]
01:21:47 ◼ ► compared to the longtail candidates for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4907">TS</a>]
01:21:50 ◼ ► you think generally straight up like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4910">TS</a>]
01:21:51 ◼ ► you're the most like I noble I'm the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4911">TS</a>]
01:21:53 ◼ ► most noble not only because I don't you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4913">TS</a>]
01:21:58 ◼ ► background i'm not you know if you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4918">TS</a>]
01:22:00 ◼ ► good people couldn't read your resume [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4920">TS</a>]
01:22:01 ◼ ► and gas exactly what you'll do exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4921">TS</a>]
01:22:04 ◼ ► and so you know I'm trying to populate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4924">TS</a>]
01:22:06 ◼ ► my campaign with writing that that lays [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4926">TS</a>]
01:22:12 ◼ ► it out but even that you know I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4932">TS</a>]
01:22:16 ◼ ► have a voting record right it's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4936">TS</a>]
01:22:18 ◼ ► easy in a campaign to say when elected I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4938">TS</a>]
01:22:21 ◼ ► will put a baby in every pot but unless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4941">TS</a>]
01:22:24 ◼ ► you have unless you have voted for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4944">TS</a>]
01:22:32 ◼ ► conversely voted to not put babies in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4952">TS</a>]
01:22:35 ◼ ► pots it's all the kids that are my big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4955">TS</a>]
01:22:40 ◼ ► yeah I'm not that's right i'm not you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4960">TS</a>]
01:22:42 ◼ ► know bump I'm not inside not in service [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4962">TS</a>]
01:22:45 ◼ ► oh my god keep going oh my god we could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4965">TS</a>]
01:22:57 ◼ ► stop there that's so good buddy i wanna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4977">TS</a>]
01:23:00 ◼ ► yeah so i imagining an actual large big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4980">TS</a>]
01:23:06 ◼ ► where you gonna go on this boat but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4986">TS</a>]
01:23:08 ◼ ► that's where you're gonna go babysit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4988">TS</a>]
01:23:10 ◼ ► pops or not so yeah so emotionally right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4990">TS</a>]
01:23:14 ◼ ► I I because there are a lot of things at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4994">TS</a>]
01:23:19 ◼ ► stake here you want to be everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/4999">TS</a>]
01:23:22 ◼ ► who's running for office wants to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5002">TS</a>]
01:23:24 ◼ ► liked by everybody except for the people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5004">TS</a>]
01:23:26 ◼ ► who are running for office specifically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5006">TS</a>]
01:23:27 ◼ ► because they hate a certain kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5007">TS</a>]
01:23:29 ◼ ► civic leader the guy wears a boot on his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5009">TS</a>]
01:23:32 ◼ ► head but like unless you're like did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5012">TS</a>]
01:23:35 ◼ ► they be the deliberate like outsider [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5015">TS</a>]
01:23:36 ◼ ► candidate or no or allow the insiders [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5016">TS</a>]
01:23:39 ◼ ► are insiders but are like i am here to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5019">TS</a>]
01:23:43 ◼ ► fight big developers looks like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5023">TS</a>]
01:23:48 ◼ ► yeah dude who are they and what you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5028">TS</a>]
01:23:50 ◼ ► but that's not but that's not politics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5030">TS</a>]
01:23:53 ◼ ► to say what does that mean what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5033">TS</a>]
01:23:54 ◼ ► politics is to say I'm here to fight big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5034">TS</a>]
01:23:56 ◼ ► developers and then everybody in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5036">TS</a>]
01:23:57 ◼ ► room goes yeah a big developers are bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5037">TS</a>]
01:23:59 ◼ ► hole here's the thing for the hole in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5039">TS</a>]
01:24:01 ◼ ► the ground person like getting somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5041">TS</a>]
01:24:03 ◼ ► in there who's incredibly incompetent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5043">TS</a>]
01:24:04 ◼ ► that holds that point you might actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5044">TS</a>]
01:24:07 ◼ ► absolutely i mean i'm not being extreme [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5047">TS</a>]
01:24:09 ◼ ► not all you plan around that stuff it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5049">TS</a>]
01:24:11 ◼ ► you know it's the supreme court stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5051">TS</a>]
01:24:13 ◼ ► it's not you don't have to get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5053">TS</a>]
01:24:14 ◼ ► unanimous verdict you are trying to win [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5054">TS</a>]
01:24:18 ◼ ► and if you know that four people on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5058">TS</a>]
01:24:21 ◼ ► council are against you and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5061">TS</a>]
01:24:25 ◼ ► that for our for you then you can just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5065">TS</a>]
01:24:29 ◼ ► focus your attention on the one which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5069">TS</a>]
01:24:32 ◼ ► Victor which is which feels very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5072">TS</a>]
01:24:37 ◼ ► operatives you know it's like I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5077">TS</a>]
01:24:40 ◼ ► it's super interesting way to look at it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5080">TS</a>]
01:24:42 ◼ ► yeah we don't have to we don't have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5082">TS</a>]
01:24:44 ◼ ► expend any energy on those four people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5084">TS</a>]
01:24:45 ◼ ► that we know are against us and the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5085">TS</a>]
01:24:48 ◼ ► that they are you know that one of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5088">TS</a>]
01:24:50 ◼ ► is really smart and one of them is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5090">TS</a>]
01:24:52 ◼ ► you know one of them is a Scalia and one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5092">TS</a>]
01:24:54 ◼ ► of them is Thomas like wall then wait a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5094">TS</a>]
01:24:58 ◼ ► minute so but it's something let's say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5098">TS</a>]
01:24:59 ◼ ► that the evil John Roderick okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5099">TS</a>]
01:25:02 ◼ ► somebody with a mustache comes in here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5102">TS</a>]
01:25:03 ◼ ► who literally mustache no but like in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5103">TS</a>]
01:25:05 ◼ ► that case doesn't that kind of benefit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5105">TS</a>]
01:25:07 ◼ ► the we don't know what they'll do person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5107">TS</a>]
01:25:10 ◼ ► because now they can leverage that if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5110">TS</a>]
01:25:13 ◼ ► well yeah except if they get the sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5113">TS</a>]
01:25:20 ◼ ► you know if I were running for office [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5120">TS</a>]
01:25:23 ◼ ► and all of these groups smelled on me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5123">TS</a>]
01:25:25 ◼ ► that I was someone who was corrupt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5125">TS</a>]
01:25:28 ◼ ► someone who is capable of being coerced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5128">TS</a>]
01:25:31 ◼ ► or bought or you know and this is why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5131">TS</a>]
01:25:34 ◼ ► people say like wheel of a situation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5134">TS</a>]
01:25:36 ◼ ► where it's a dumb candidate and a smart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5136">TS</a>]
01:25:38 ◼ ► staff because you can go talk to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5138">TS</a>]
01:25:41 ◼ ► staff and say what do you guys want you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5141">TS</a>]
01:25:43 ◼ ► guys want out of this like if we give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5143">TS</a>]
01:25:47 ◼ ► you if you give us this and we give you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5147">TS</a>]
01:25:49 ◼ ► how does that feel in the staff goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5149">TS</a>]
01:25:50 ◼ ► well that benefits my career and I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5150">TS</a>]
01:25:54 ◼ ► who's going to get caught with his hand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5154">TS</a>]
01:25:57 ◼ ► in a bag so you know the staff makes the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5157">TS</a>]
01:26:01 ◼ ► their candidate like here's what we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5161">TS</a>]
01:26:03 ◼ ► should do on this is the candidate goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5163">TS</a>]
01:26:04 ◼ ► oh really great i can edit he's got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5164">TS</a>]
01:26:08 ◼ ► big hair and he goes out and and people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5168">TS</a>]
01:26:10 ◼ ► vote for his hair and a and that's how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5170">TS</a>]
01:26:14 ◼ ► politics goes but so these groups you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5174">TS</a>]
01:26:17 ◼ ► know they if I were malleable and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5177">TS</a>]
01:26:21 ◼ ► didn't know what I was going to do sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5181">TS</a>]
01:26:23 ◼ ► they be like great here's a and there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5183">TS</a>]
01:26:25 ◼ ► are people absolutely at every level of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5185">TS</a>]
01:26:28 ◼ ► politics that walk into every room and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5188">TS</a>]
01:26:34 ◼ ► uh-huh the problem is that they smell on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5194">TS</a>]
01:26:37 ◼ ► me that i am not that I that they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5197">TS</a>]
01:26:40 ◼ ► know what I'm going to do and also they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5200">TS</a>]
01:26:41 ◼ ► are not confident that they can reach me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5201">TS</a>]
01:26:43 ◼ ► through the normal back door and I am I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5203">TS</a>]
01:26:48 ◼ ► had a few people in my life where I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5208">TS</a>]
01:26:51 ◼ ► didn't realize until too late how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5211">TS</a>]
01:26:53 ◼ ► important it was to them that I owed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5213">TS</a>]
01:26:58 ◼ ► oh yes there are many people like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5218">TS</a>]
01:27:00 ◼ ► and they are perpetually they seem so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5220">TS</a>]
01:27:01 ◼ ► nice and so dad like in some ways but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5221">TS</a>]
01:27:04 ◼ ► there are these people who want to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5224">TS</a>]
01:27:05 ◼ ► sure you owe them at least a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5225">TS</a>]
01:27:07 ◼ ► favors all the time and sometimes don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5227">TS</a>]
01:27:10 ◼ ► insert them like kind of like oh here's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5230">TS</a>]
01:27:12 ◼ ► the thing i did for you and then she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5232">TS</a>]
01:27:14 ◼ ► gets like I'm magic sound like playing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5234">TS</a>]
01:27:16 ◼ ► pool and like extending the queue and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5236">TS</a>]
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01:27:25 ◼ ► doing these like little things for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5245">TS</a>]
01:27:28 ◼ ► eventually on the day of my daughter's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5248">TS</a>]
01:27:29 ◼ ► wedding at the heck did they may come i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5249">TS</a>]
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01:27:47 ◼ ► there have been moments and I've after I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5267">TS</a>]
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01:27:54 ◼ ► money it is a tiny little incremental [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5274">TS</a>]
01:27:56 ◼ ► failures to make failures to stand on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5276">TS</a>]
01:28:04 ◼ ► your own principal and people come up to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5284">TS</a>]
01:28:07 ◼ ► me every single day and there's nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5287">TS</a>]
01:28:09 ◼ ► dishonest about it is not it is not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5289">TS</a>]
01:28:14 ◼ ► uh of organized deceit it is not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5294">TS</a>]
01:28:18 ◼ ► it is just people saying hi I see you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5298">TS</a>]
01:28:21 ◼ ► running i like what i see i would like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5301">TS</a>]
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01:28:26 ◼ ► to be my friend and in exchange for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5306">TS</a>]
01:28:30 ◼ ► I will do what I can to help you and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5310">TS</a>]
01:28:34 ◼ ► feels very natural it feels very human [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5314">TS</a>]
01:28:37 ◼ ► and humane and year and when you're on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5317">TS</a>]
01:28:39 ◼ ► campaign you're struggling you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5319">TS</a>]
01:28:42 ◼ ► friends you want people to say we are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5322">TS</a>]
01:28:45 ◼ ► here to support you and we're not asking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5325">TS</a>]
01:28:49 ◼ ► anything except very small thing which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5329">TS</a>]
01:28:52 ◼ ► is just that you be our friend and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5332">TS</a>]
01:28:55 ◼ ► remember this moment and you go wow that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5335">TS</a>]
01:28:58 ◼ ► seems like such set that's so easy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5338">TS</a>]
01:29:00 ◼ ► they're going to support me and all i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5340">TS</a>]
01:29:02 ◼ ► have to do is remember that there my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5342">TS</a>]
01:29:03 ◼ ► friend I will take that deal thank you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5343">TS</a>]
01:29:07 ◼ ► so much and you're just trying to put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5347">TS</a>]
01:29:08 ◼ ► together enough friends to get into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5348">TS</a>]
01:29:11 ◼ ► office but you realize that every one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5351">TS</a>]
01:29:15 ◼ ► those people is remembering that favor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5355">TS</a>]
01:29:17 ◼ ► and that's their job to do and if you if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5357">TS</a>]
01:29:23 ◼ ► you don't have a a core if your values [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5363">TS</a>]
01:29:27 ◼ ► aren't your own then in the course of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5367">TS</a>]
01:29:32 ◼ ► campaign it only takes one campaign to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5372">TS</a>]
01:29:34 ◼ ► get to the end and realize like oh I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5374">TS</a>]
01:29:37 ◼ ► promised everybody I promised everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5377">TS</a>]
01:29:40 ◼ ► to everybody and now and and now I'm in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5380">TS</a>]
01:29:43 ◼ ► office and I'm excited about that and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5383">TS</a>]
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01:29:47 ◼ ► here i'm going to try and accommodate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5387">TS</a>]
01:29:51 ◼ ► and not because i'm looking for the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5391">TS</a>]
01:29:54 ◼ ► solution that helps everybody but just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5394">TS</a>]
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01:29:59 ◼ ► already given a little piece of myself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5399">TS</a>]
01:30:05 ◼ ► astonishing how easy it is to be to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5405">TS</a>]
01:30:11 ◼ ► corrupted and let alone when you get in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5411">TS</a>]
01:30:14 ◼ ► there and somebody comes and says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5414">TS</a>]
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01:30:19 ◼ ► endorsed you and I got 70,000 members of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5419">TS</a>]
01:30:22 ◼ ► my organization to come out and fight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5422">TS</a>]
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01:30:34 ◼ ► Sierra Club like they sat down with me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5434">TS</a>]
01:30:35 ◼ ► and and we talked and they were like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5435">TS</a>]
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01:30:39 ◼ ► have endorsed her opponent in the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5439">TS</a>]
01:30:41 ◼ ► three elections it would be it would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5441">TS</a>]
01:30:45 ◼ ► a nail they don't want to change and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5445">TS</a>]
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01:30:49 ◼ ► to have somebody on out there that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5449">TS</a>]
01:30:50 ◼ ► really was like really on your team and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5450">TS</a>]
01:30:54 ◼ ► they were like you know what yes we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5454">TS</a>]
01:30:56 ◼ ► and they endorse me and they have not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5456">TS</a>]
01:30:57 ◼ ► like they didn't ask me for anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5457">TS</a>]
01:31:00 ◼ ► then and they really have not made a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5460">TS</a>]
01:31:02 ◼ ► deal of it sense they were just like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5462">TS</a>]
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01:31:06 ◼ ► into them and they're just like they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5466">TS</a>]
01:31:08 ◼ ► seem happy to see me and there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5468">TS</a>]
01:31:11 ◼ ► sense of because I because I already was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5471">TS</a>]
01:31:13 ◼ ► ahead of them on like the Sierra Club is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5473">TS</a>]
01:31:16 ◼ ► never going to come to me and say we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5476">TS</a>]
01:31:18 ◼ ► really need to do this thing that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5478">TS</a>]
01:31:20 ◼ ► find distasteful right like I'm already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5480">TS</a>]
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01:31:25 ◼ ► off of me on this because I'm you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5485">TS</a>]
01:31:27 ◼ ► like I got this part of it but but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5487">TS</a>]
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01:31:33 ◼ ► issues where any reasonable person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5493">TS</a>]
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01:31:39 ◼ ► middle you know and it really is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5499">TS</a>]
01:31:45 ◼ ► difficult to know where you to know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5505">TS</a>]
01:31:48 ◼ ► where you land and that is normal and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5508">TS</a>]
01:31:52 ◼ ► that should be part of good government [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5512">TS</a>]
01:31:53 ◼ ► that should that should be part of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5513">TS</a>]
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01:31:57 ◼ ► us up here and seven of us think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5517">TS</a>]
01:31:59 ◼ ► this is kind of this is sort of a guinea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5519">TS</a>]
01:32:02 ◼ ► or their seven of seven of us up here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5522">TS</a>]
01:32:04 ◼ ► that don't even understand the question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5524">TS</a>]
01:32:06 ◼ ► or there are you know there are six of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5526">TS</a>]
01:32:09 ◼ ► us who feel like group a has a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5529">TS</a>]
01:32:11 ◼ ► point but they're kind of overplaying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5531">TS</a>]
01:32:12 ◼ ► their hand a little bit and Group B has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5532">TS</a>]
01:32:15 ◼ ► a weaker point but they're they're being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5535">TS</a>]
01:32:16 ◼ ► kind of noble you know like that stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5536">TS</a>]
01:32:19 ◼ ► that's just like that's people business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5539">TS</a>]
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01:32:27 ◼ ► place for that in a campaign in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5547">TS</a>]
01:32:31 ◼ ► campaign you are your four against stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5551">TS</a>]
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01:32:36 ◼ ► just like then they ring the bell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMpXED0/5556">TS</a>]