191: They Don`t Make Them Anymore
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the incontrovertible number 191 APR 2014
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it's time for another episode of the
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incompetent podcast this one live in san
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francisco for macworld/iworld i'm your
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host Jason L joining me a fine panel of
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people who are who showed up you were
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here first and that makes them saints
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David Sparkes longtime listener
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first-time caller or or person who's on
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the podcast welcome Jason I have to
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admit I feel like I've just been called
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up to the show i'm a big fan of the
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incomparable podcast and now i need to
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deliver so i'm here with my pics and I
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am ready
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don't mess it I don't blow it what was
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right in my ear back so ready Caldwell
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is also here hello welcome back thank
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you i'm happy to actually be on in the
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comfortable again after a month of
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boiling right you're very busy person i
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am a great friend you can join now that
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I know you're very busy
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you're skating and robbing banks oh I'm
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not supposed to mention that part okay
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alright Dan more and also here however
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hi what's happening
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I just blacked out and I woke up on a
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stage recording a podcast that's like
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most of this weekend pretty much how I
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had a podcast I'm gonna happen i cast
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booking is by knocking people out
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dragging them onto the floors in here in
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a bind you with results Jason that
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that's exactly right Dan Frakes is also
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here Heidi and thank you
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and he actually offered to pay me so I
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didn't that's why I mean you're only
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ever hear when he's on macworld it's
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like when you're on the stage i'm an
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infrequent produced yet but you you
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can't you feel on various episodes which
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is a jeff carlson is our other guests
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he's all only seemingly on when we were
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in weird locations all you did one on
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skype so I've been on more more
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incomparables live than any than the
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others yeah that sounds very impressive
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when you think it's I've been on two
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versus one but still many many more he
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shows up when there's something
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happening live anyway just to explain
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for those who don't know the
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uncomfortable as a weekly podcast about
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Kiki pop culture but for macworld/iworld
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we decided to do something a little bit
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different in the sense that we're going
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to be talking about computers but we're
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going to do it in an inevitable
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well actually it's very amenable
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it will say inimitable in comfortable
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style which is to prove everything is
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improved if put in fantasy draft format
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by drafting things in order as if you
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were forming some sort of fantasy
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baseball league made out of computers
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and peers things just are much more
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interesting so the way it works is my
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panelists are going to pick their going
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we're going to start all the way over
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with Jeff and move toward me and you are
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going to pick a computer from history
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I'm the judge and jury and executioner
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so if you try to pick something like
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c-3po you are going to feel a lot of
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pain because he's a robot and not a
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computer and and I was anticipating will
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be a lot of Max chosen today given where
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we are but you know you can you could
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surprise me so jeff carlson what is your
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first choice in the incomparable
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computer draft well a computer is
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usually associated with power with fast
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processing with smarts
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so I'm going to go top-of-the-line the
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commodore vic-20 yeah my my first
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computer the the great thing about the
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commodore vic-20 was that there was of
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course no no monitor you just hooked it
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up to a television and you could
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programming in in in basic with it it
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had little characters printed on the
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keys with the special a shortcut key you
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could like draw things and I think
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perhaps my favorite part of it was the
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cassette tape storage system at a big
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rolling number system so if you want to
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load a program that you would save you
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had to fast forward to you know like 192
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and then have it start listening to the
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tape and loaded to get your get your
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program on my signature achievement and
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this is going to demonstrate how
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proficient IM as a programmer I made a
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space shuttle out of all these little
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codes and made it go off the top of the
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screen will not often but may go up the
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screen and even looked like there was
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it didn't actually look like that huh
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in my head it was so awesome equivalent
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of spaceship ascii art yes exactly
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exactly
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alright and took me forever really hit
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on the ascii art circuit
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yeah so the macworld/iworld panel for
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the incomparable computer draft begins
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with a commodore vic-20 I don't think
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the experts the draft ranking experts
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were seen that coming
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some might call that a reach as the
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first pic de Triomphe Gaston you have
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been eliminated up some pics but that's
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ok I we're not here to judge what we are
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here and we are judging you but that's
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fine we are going to judge you like and
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breaks just like the charlotte bobcats
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yes you are you were this number two
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pick so I'm gonna go the opposite end of
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the comic 20 and no one said this had to
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be real computers
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no one said they had to be real computer
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i'm going to pick Jarvis Tony Stark
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workshop computer
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all right you're just making that up who
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is sort of like Siri for the ultra rich
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playboy I mean who doesn't want back in
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a computer it's like the most part of
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the computer in the world apparently and
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you can just tell it to do something it
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will do anything
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show me a five-to-one scale
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topographical map of New York City that
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i can pick up and move and change and
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just be sure you go and it can build
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things and it can mean I can't think of
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a better computer if I had to pick one
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so that's my pic service has amazing
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networking to no matter where he is
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it's about all my of robbery and
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perfectly clear connection
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yeah yes I think just technically it's
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he's everywhere right and there are
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multiple Jarvis's is a net
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well I whole lot of the next Avengers
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movie action was about to say I choose
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Ultron yeah a robot see what happened
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but you cannot do well I'll see that
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you're much for having us all right
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line Tony Stark's Jarvis Stark
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Industries Jarvis idea and more in
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Europe real and imagined the computer so
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many options well if you're picking
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Jarvis and I am picking whopper everyone
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else is getting their first was not why
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because it can play a game
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Chessie can pick global thermonuclear
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war it's really covers kind of the whole
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gamut there it's got great graphics it
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it's got a giant box that it comes in
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got a cool acronym and he talks and he
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talks like what else you relax with an
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English accent might notice jarvan might
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be well grammar yes but Germans was
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English originally right i mean he's
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also call Bethenny so what you want to
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do about that but anyways yes that's it
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that's the I i have a big a certain
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amount of fondness for the old what we
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call that big iron right you know it's
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free for people who don't know what whop
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whop reason more games the seminal
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1982-83 fillmore game starring matthew
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broderick and Ally Sheedy yes and water
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is the computer that is run by a big the
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Defense Department yes and among other
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things apparently controls our entire
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thermal nuclear armament because that
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seems like a really good idea and can it
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gets a little touchy sometimes easily
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hacked into now I a teenager in Seattle
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that is one of my top requirements in a
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giant mainframe computer wouldn't be won
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without it and it sounds like a burger
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king product so I mean I think it really
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it really takes all the boxes you
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wouldn't want to eat whopper though you
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would want to offer the whopper
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in addition to having that giant screen
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in the nuclear arsenal that controls has
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a little tiny lcds right on its side
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with a little light that just kind of
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goes left to right just for extra bonus
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excitement looks cool it looks cool in
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case you unplug it from the monitor you
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still got a little status we never
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underestimate the power of simply
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looking cool
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yep alright the whopper whoppers armor
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already has that has I think the
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signature and maybe it started the fact
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that that every password that you use
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must be the name of a child haha alright
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no one will guess
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Joshua yeah and if that fails Joshua one
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probably is the passion 1974 so yeah
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I also keep in mind that it's built by a
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man whose last name is falcon right
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which is pretty awesome
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yep protecting our request for that's
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all I'm saying anything you want to log
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in this fall can you just need to say I
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am Vulcan or yeah as long with his
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password the voice that voice
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authentication is is really ahead of its
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time I think
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alright so whoppers off the board
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serenity what do you have i well I was
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going to go with a legitimate computer
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that existed in the past but you might
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want to get has changed that's right
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given yeah I'm afraid I have to start
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with my fictional pic and while I you
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know I had Walker on the list and I
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think water is an excellent choice and
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you know there are plenty of
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megalomaniacs computers that exists and
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I think my favorite my top of the top is
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GLaDOS from Portal 10 that started small
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has a tragic backstory and can basically
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rule everybody in its path yeah it was
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really like that big glasses excellent
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you know what she's funny she's snarky
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she has a great singing voice
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I think we can agree that in terms of
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fictional computers GLaDOS could almost
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be anyone in an opera competition and
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probably murder with pinesh yes and
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portals because everything's better with
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portals yeah alright David you got it
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you're gonna drag us back to reality or
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you're gonna plunge deeper we don'twe
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the insanity agree that we've had some
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great computers pic but there's only one
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computer that we should all be thinking
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about the computer that's responsible
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for our existence as we all know we are
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a computer programmer self looking to
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find the answer to the life the universe
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and everything and we do owe our
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existence to deep thought huh
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the thought team dogz Adams just guide
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to the galaxy
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yeah a computer constructed by mice who
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are actually pan-dimensional beings in
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order to figure out the ultimate answer
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to the element question although the
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ultimate question the ultimate question
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of liking the answer is no the answer is
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42 in answer to the ultimate question of
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life the universe and everything how
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many roads must a man walk down right
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accepted it turns out that the this
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damn or in not expect I'm gonna see a
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students get a thinkpad and when I told
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my father this he said no there's no way
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tiny number and you have to like in shit
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eraser just stuck it on the individual
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the keyboard like no sorry no daughter
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the long tradition of my dad giving me
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outdated computers that were lovingly
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cared for and my very first laptop was
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the powerbook duo it wasn't the ibook
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that I desperately wanted her but it was
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awesome
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the fact is you know sure my classmates
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could play the sims in class on their
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thinkpad but I'm i have escape velocity
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Nova and I had that run on two hours of
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battery life wasn't able to do black and
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wow so I felt pretty smug and I felt
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like I got longer battery life than any
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of my friends because they couldn't
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figure out
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wait how do i turn it back to black and
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white how do I do this
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oh I'm just wasting all my battery on a
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silly game so i really like my powerbook
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duo and still holds up on place in my
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heart and I think that's why i own an 11
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and share today is holding onto the tiny
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did you have a dude i did have a duo
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Trafford I never used the duo top i was
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that was cool it was the front loading
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VCR of computers the duo doc they're
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reloading the CR like what happened was
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there was a topic CR it's true the front
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loading VCRs of computers & and the
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DualShock have its own processor in it
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so that when you insert the duo it would
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use the doc processor which was more
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powerful than the math coprocessor in
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the doc yeah
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powered completely crazy stuff so
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basically I'm dressing a transformer
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that's also a real product
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yeah points points to ren shi you game
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the system David when idea what do you
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thinking back to
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nostalgic computers i can't help but
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think about my old Tandy model 100 which
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was a keyboard with it
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eight lines of LCD screen on it and I
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had on a couple double-a batteries and
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it ran for a couple months on a pair of
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batteries and all you could you could
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type basic programs in it and you could
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type words back that was the beginning
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of my love affair with text files i
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think because you could write all the
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texts and take it to school or whatever
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right all your texts you plug it into a
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mac and with dump a text file in that
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was my original iPad of thing so i'll
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pick the tandy model with us so did it
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couldn't connect to a TV or monitor or
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no just it just had its know that was
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always like a week later we need to
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connect me to a cassette player if you
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have the extra cord but I never got the
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wow so you just had eight lines of
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taxing lines of town and I think all
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kinds like i don't remember i think it
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was like 1k of storage half the vic-20
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which i think i believe had Duque yes
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why would you even need more than that
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no I want you need no one will ever wear
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than to count that was a great computer
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alright I am going to pick I've got a
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mac on my board now so I'm feeling
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pretty good so i'm gonna i'm going to
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reach back into the past a little bit
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before some of you were born and take
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the Apple 2mm thick the apple 2e which
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is the computer that i had the computer
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that i use from eighth grade through my
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freshman year in college I had a lot of
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floppy disks have a lot of funny
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programs wrote a lot of 10 print hello
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forward-backward ran a bulletin board
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played games the whole nine yards that
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is the that is the definitive computer
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of my of my youth that I i learned how
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to use and love computers and the apple
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2e I pic partially because it came with
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upper and lower case and had a super
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snazzy hundred 28k graphics expansion
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card it would do 80 characters online
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and you don't you see him with an upper
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you it has a shift key
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yeah he yes that's b/ci opposite the
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Apple 2 plus did not have a shift key to
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modify the wrong
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arms and modify the keyboard to support
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upper and lowercase characters and don't
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let it don't ever let anybody tell you
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that the old stuff isn't good in the old
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days in the old days of of the bulletin
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boards your numbers 1 through 7 2 or
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eight nine more beams to it yeah it's
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plain as I had Hunter that you just
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instead of eight we would just be four
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plus for that's what are you talking
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there'll be some people log in the
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bulletin board systems back then and
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they would post things and it would be
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all lower-case and you and you look at
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it you'll be like apple to cause there's
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no shift key and they couldn't see that
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it was a lower case because the Apple
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two key set of the original and I m2
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plus was only uppercase and will be
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modified it so the tui is my choice for
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that wasn't the tui the model that there
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was some sort of manufacturing defect
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and the the processor memory would not
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get seated correctly and so the official
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apples official fix was you had to get a
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flat and drop it for light of like two
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feet or three feet to seat the memory I
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I don't know that story but it's
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entirely possible i had was that thing
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was built like a tank I had a cousin who
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worked in computer apparently used to
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tell me stories about picking up
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computers and dropping them to face them
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that was the official i was awesome but
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I wanted to go into computer where he's
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at for hard drives so it wasn't really a
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problem to do stuff like that because it
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didn't have a spinning platter to worry
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about yeah don't do that anyway i'm
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truly that's my pic we're gonna move to
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be third round and jackets back to you
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i'm gonna go practical again I'm going
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to come a little bit forward in time for
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something that that I used quite a bit
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and I think has a huge amount of
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influence over everything that we're
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doing now and that would be the titanium
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powerbook g4 it was thin it was powerful
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it was made entirely to titanium and
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here i must be a little embarrassed
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because you probably all like like seen
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a video some of Apple keynotes and a lot
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of them have the sizable press
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group and I was pressed for when this
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this was a announced and steve jobs is
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talking about this new laptop and you
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know is it's sort of teasing things and
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they put a big square and with it with a
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TI that the titanium symbol on it and
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they're like you know what is it gonna
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and I lost my brain I was like titanium
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and it was actually something you could
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hear because I wasn't thinking because i
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was very excited because my old computer
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was really really dying so I i was the
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the doofus that did that but i think i
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think you can hear no longer yeah it's
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in the judicial yes you always any that
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do but excellent impartial journalism
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all the way but but what's what's really
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notable about it is that's the first
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thing where Apple started mass-producing
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you know formed metal machines which
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most everything they're doing now it
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turns out that titanium was a terrible
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and i was going to be real dancers it
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does yours come with the first or second
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hinge on my hinge managed to stay intact
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it got banged up and and you know like
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scratching and all over the place and
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then it at some point the battery
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decided that it would just expand a bit
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but it was it was great
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so in your favor here it was the first
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silver apple laptop apple still hasn't
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gotten over that it all that that was
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the moment when the the apple laptops
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became what we think of them today as
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they look
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you have not changed very much since
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then well and not just that it looks
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silver but but they they started doing
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really interesting things with with with
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metal and materials and shaping in an
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era when when you know all the other
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computer manufacturers were like it will
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just be able to take these plastic bits
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and in the room together and they're
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really shaky and and it was just one
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inch then lunch then notnot everyone
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stick that's real one is then they had
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to paint it but paint doesn't stick to
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titanium so people's paint chipped off
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when all are
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the 98 miles you can get to touch them
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up titanium is soft and become can
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become brittle and so it turned out that
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this was the only laptop apple made that
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was made with titanium it was very light
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yeah soft and brittle my personal i love
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the titanium powerbook to look so cool
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my personal memory of it is sitting on a
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couch working and my daughter who was
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one and a half at the time walked over
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to to the computer and put her hand on
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the on the screen and went pop and pop
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the entire screen off
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oh because it wasn't that riddle toddler
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can destroy this computer with one hand
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while and any it also had a like an
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interesting add-on possibility because
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the the ibook had come out in the ibook
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handle and many people are like well
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Kakashi like white widow MacBook Pros
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have I mean sorry i don't know our books
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have handles and that hinge you could
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either send it away or get a kid where
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you can unscrew the hinge and attach a
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little you know metal handle to it
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I yeah I don't really I don't worry i
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believe it might have been the first mac
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to also have a superdrive as i recall
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yeah I think you're right yeah i'll
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leave because i remember i was quite IDK
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i loaded up back in that is what 2001 I
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want to does one or 12 2001 yeah that's
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like go ahead and turn brought up and
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shout any elements you can do that to
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oxygen with all right good good job Jeff
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they know another no other favorite
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favorite elements
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ok our vidiyum al any of the day
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ok dance breaks what do you have a virus
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or third-round right we're in the third
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rise have the hell ninth moving to what
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they have we may have a fourth-round are
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depending on how this goes alright so
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you know in in sports like me too late
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around sometimes teams will be like okay
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we're okay i'm gonna use this this on a
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sentimental this guy's tried really hard
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you know
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ok so that's the best place rafting the
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general managers grand sight exact or
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not are so so I'm going to draft the the
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powermac gt3 all in 10
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don't do that enrolling for smaller okay
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debuted so here you are here your
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the this is the computer that showed
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that did the change you know jobs came
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back here is the imac everything's
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I contend that the molar was the start
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of that but you know so it was it was it
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had a translucent top so well let me
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back so it was it showed where Apple was
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going at the same time showing how
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horrible things were at Apple 24 it was
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staged it was baby with a translucent
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top that made no sense it was a it
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looked like it looked huge molar yeah so
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it had inside it had ide and scuzzy they
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had to hard ride through to whatever we
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got we got what we got Tom it had three
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PCI slots in a wall and one imac type
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thing it had a in an upgradeable
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processor and upgradeable I mean it was
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like all the complaints about the old
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Apple let's see how many things we can
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throw in this and name it horribly with
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the new Apple where let's make it all
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around and start to use plastic and
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things they had all the old insides and
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then they gave it to Jonathan Ive and
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he's like what the hell they will help
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you with that doesn't come to do
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something this is easy right
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I mean I could I could make it look at
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your giant to know i was kidding i've
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got a sketch over here that always gonna
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do with and break you need this done
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quickly here just do that it's for
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education is fine right exactly and in
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your when it was actually a really good
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machine it was it lasted but that we had
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a few and are the schools i was working
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at last it was performed well it had all
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the features you like can you put this
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yes you can but it was five weeks later
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they announced the imac and everybody's
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like sorry yeah sorry tooth the guy one
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pull that molar right
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that's not a sentimental pic all right
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that's a good one there's a good one
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around itself out that wasn't that was
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lower on everyone else's board but we
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see that you might use it sentimentally
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Dan you know I'm gonna I'm gonna go
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sentimental and and inspirational i used
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to read a well before I started working
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i used to read macworld and i'll get my
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issue every month and I remember the
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most exciting issue I i read was the one
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that had the I think had some other
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images of the 20th century or the one
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eating mystery man yes which had a what
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was it like an eight inch LCD something
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like seven or eight inch LCD is vertical
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ahead of it was advertised basically
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America 500 stock index taco he was
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imprisoned 5307 didn't catch on fire and
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yeah that was Ranger yeah
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blackbird yeah that's what the liner to
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your house
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yes it was a and bose speaker on it was
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delivered with it was concierge several
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river that came with its a man came to
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your house and assembled it for one of
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the few again again a pre steve jobs at
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my yes attempt by Apple to capitalize on
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this algebra but i love the idea of it
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like let Homer it looked futuristic yeah
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in a way that most max coming out that
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point we're actually just beige boxes
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let me know in some ways it was like the
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I'm what the imac would be eventually
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and that was an all-in-one using laptop
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technology to make it yes I it was
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really ahead of its time it was
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completely impractical i believe for a
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broad design perfect for our design
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video or performance
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yeah but it looked awesome and that was
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really all that matters you don't have
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it like 15 years old or whatever you
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know it was cool it was sold so poorly
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that they started giving it to like
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institutions you bought 20 you know
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computers will give you a 20th
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anniversary and please take there was a
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oh I can't remember there was a TV show
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or movie or something where somebody has
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one like in the background and just like
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and it was it see clearly there as an
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attempt of like oh this person is fancy
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because they have its pretty happy
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Anniversary Macintosh in the background
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a futuristic I never owned one
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I was really expensive to myself what
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so it's already ten thousand yeah I was
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like what you did there was no way you
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were ever gonna bite event eventually
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lowered it like 2500 and 5000 and then
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will you take this money hit that it was
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not going to find it was new it was
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yellow and it was like two yrs new 20
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years past it's but i only want the
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aspiration and and attempt behind it
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that that's a mid nineties happened in
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that she'll write was also when it was
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introduced at the keynote that was that
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was the the endless gil amelio keynote
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that that it's still going that they're
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still going to that it was endless
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because the big reveal was going to be
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that Steve Jobs was coming back to apple
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and apparently steve jobs so the story
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goes was just taking his sweet time he
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knew that amelia was out there trying to
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fill space full-time full-time full-time
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and so they they I think they they
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introduced the 20th anniversary Mac
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first and then they brought was and Jobs
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onstage and I think Amelia said
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something like and the first two or four
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you know jobs and and Wozniak and
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they're both looking like like you can
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tell jobs like seriously seriously
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you're going to voice this on me onstage
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great there is actually a circle of hell
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where it's nothing but listening to gil
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amelio and stand stickman from not just
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always about to come out from behind
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stage but he never done he never does
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that's Roberts goes on forever
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no exit alright 20th anniversary Mac
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interesting pic interesting pic serenity
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what do you have
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alright well i'm also going to go
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sentimental and i'm going to go sort of
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inspirational and my pic is the second
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generation Newton message pad on the new
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again one of those computers that we
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would probably now call a device but
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still a computer and of itself
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I hand-me-down from my father as a as
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the powerbook duo was but mostly I
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thought it was really cool because of
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the point that i have it which i think
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was 99 2000 no one knew what they were
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anymore especially not people my age so
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when I was walking around with them and
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my classmates to be like what is that
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I'm like oh well it's a computer that I
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not request in my pocket but I can carry
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with me and it's the size of a book i
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can write on it
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look it recognizes my handwriting
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sometime during school time to eat up
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Martha and I because I'm a horrible
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person and I knew more about technology
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than most of my friends or classmates
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who I hated I would occasionally expound
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on what the Newton could do so I believe
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one time in history class I was sort of
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hanging out at the end of the class and
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one of my friends like what are you
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doing I'm like oh I'm using the Newton
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to capture all the notes on the board
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they'll then be digitized and i'll have
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them and I won't have to do any writing
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and of course the kids were like that's
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kind of cool
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I don't want to do any writing I'm like
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yeah well they don't make them anymore
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basically I was a jerk in middle school
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and I was with the first people to ever
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want to new and the lab now I could do
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that what you can do that that's how
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clearly ahead of my time
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alright the Newton message pad will call
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that a computer sure it's not a robot
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it's not a phone whatever whatever it is
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David what do you have to show here
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where the third round I can't believe my
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pic hasn't been picked up yet 1985 I
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went to school I had been using command
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line computers all the time and i sat in
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front of the original 128k Mac and I
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unbelievable that it has not gone injury
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for you is well I I'll tell you that
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computer changed my life when I saw that
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control panel and they had the tortoise
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and the hare it my head exploded death
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it was only with a lot of difficulty was
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able to put it back together again
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I still haven't got it all that man
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before you're not missing parts but what
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a great computer it just changed the way
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I thought about computers entirely and
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probably the reason I'm sitting here I I
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didn't couldn't afford one begged my
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parents to win by one but I went to
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school every day on my Schwinn 10-speed
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and they were nice enough to let me sit
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there for like eight hours at a time and
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the computer and I didn't have to save
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the cassette tape anymore and that was
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kind of nice to what a great computer
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very cool alright I can't argue with
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yeah the original 128k Mac okay it's my
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turn to go and I'm gonna go with the
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crazy pick my choices Landrieu the
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computer that runs the entire society on
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planet beta 3 in a temple you episode
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return of the archons in the original
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Star Trek wow I gotta live here or one
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of one of rainy planet-wide society
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controlling computers encountered in
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Star Trek how many people in the
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audience have heard of this computer
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ever huh
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wait 12 that was left was mistaken i
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allowed anymore plotting because they
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want to sound really cool
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oh yeah this is arkon lands on beta 3
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and and by the time the enterprise gets
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there they find that this is a strange
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oppressive mind control society run by
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sort of zombie people and at its heart
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is their leader Landrieu who appears as
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a hologram as if he was a man because
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they think perhaps he was a man in the
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past it turns out of course that
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Landrieu is in fact a computer that is
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controlling the society and you think
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well okay this is a sci-fi story they're
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going to find some way to destroy the
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computer they do but not through phasers
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or anything else they talk to the
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computer and convinced that what it's
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doing is wrong and that the best thing
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for the people of beta 3 would be if we
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would very kindly self-destruct which it
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agrees and does well done well are you
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captain kirk i knew that debate team
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would come out later that's deep catalog
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soul Andrews because how many computers
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run an entire society for hundreds of
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ok there are lots if you watched our
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commander I always liked Landrieu from
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return of the archons so that's my pic
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he can run my planetary slaver society
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any day I remember lightning round we
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have time for another round or not a
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whole nother round so we're going to go
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back around one again bring out your
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backup pics jeff carlson oh these are
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now the real pics
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Oh another real pics oh I'm up I'm just
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going to be contrary to you and I'm
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going to say not in society controlling
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computers i'm gonna go real world i'm
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going to say the powerbook 109 00 i know
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you you'll even like walking shot down
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mighty 68000 processor in there
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interesting because it was actually
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built by Sony instead of instead of
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apple it it was my first laptop so
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therefore it is immediately important to
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everybody but what was really cool was
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because you know battery life was really
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quite terrible what you could do is you
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could load basically everything into a
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ramdisk and put the hard drive to sleep
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and get like an extra 30 minutes or an
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hour from the battery and so I had a
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keyboard shortcut to do that
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Wow sleep the yeah yeah good times
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so so like it was it is probably like
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like this is a writing computer it's not
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gonna really do anything more than just
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let me write but it was still that I i
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wish that i had had that when I was
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doing new newspaper stuff in college
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where I had a mat classic that i would
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put over in a big shoulder bag and ride
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my bike across campus to the newspaper
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off portable portable yeah let's say
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that that had I didn't get to the mac
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portable inside it and it was unlike all
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the other powerbooks yeah to make it to
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make a cheaper
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yeah and and built by Sony all right
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good one Dan Frank's with your last pic
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i do i was going to do the mac pro and
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then now you've got me thinking about
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laptops and I just thought of the the
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the the powerbook line then they had a
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whole series of different names pismo
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and lumbar nose with the removable the
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decide and I can't think with the
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expansion potential base yeah you can
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like today I need a hard drive
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that don't like the g3 yeah otherwise
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yes i did his mom want that today I need
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longer battery life be gone hard drive
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here's another hard there's another
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battery and able to zip this if it is
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optical drive hard drive batteries
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it was a really cool idea and I forgot I
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even had those and at the time i love
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that was the greatest thing ever was
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there a computer in here is because that
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your pic thats thats what everyone was
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ya know what our country i'm doing a
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line as if driving right there like more
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it was lombard Wall Street pismo sure i
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think that's it
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yeah the bronze keyboard there at the
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bronze can have about have one still one
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of the board still has one of those that
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he currently uses you can use he has
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upgraded it to its maximum possible
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capacity it's a whack 2001 yeah yeah
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it's running Panther rs400 mayor's
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processor in there
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yeah and he uses it for surfing the web
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and sending emails when he's sitting on
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the couch watching television because
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about that you are not five years gonna
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hand it down to you is that
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yeah and then he'll get a book laptop
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and all right damn what do you have
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yours movie sneakers
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yes black box snackers is that a
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candidate doesn't come close ringer who
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it is the breaker in the words
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I wow that is a matte black box from
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black not the black girl back right well
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specifically anyway it's a code for its
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unique code yrc text seems like a strong
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number two no secrets cracking every
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code known to man and including the
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power grid the air traffic control the
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federal reserve any other things it's I
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have a theory that you cannot have a
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conversation with you for more than
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about 50 minutes without sneakers
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coming up its the one of the greatest
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movies ever made so yeah it is well do
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you say that like it's a bad thing
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actually earlier didn't you say my voice
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is my password in this podcast i did
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reference for standard specification
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beyond i decided not to spoil my own pic
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all right we got a couple more pics
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before we go
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serenity what do you have well i was
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gonna pick the wall street but thank you
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Frank uh-huh so i guess for my last pic
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i will have to go close to the heart and
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pick my very first mac that was my own
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that I got with as a birthday present
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and then partially with my own money
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which was the original bondi blue imac I
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good it was beautiful it was mine it was
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colorful I could run photoshop three on
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it and I got really excited i had that
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computer for pretty much two three four
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years of high school until I got a
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powerbook at the very end of that and it
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was aight i loved i love that like like
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it was aight i am sad that i don't have
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it in my apartment right now it's in a
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garage somewhere but someday i will put
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it on display as the as the wonderful
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thing it is one of these days you're
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gonna mention you new computer in your
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father's gonna say well how about this
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body blue imac using that was already
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like it goes for a walk
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Walston yeah full circle there's still
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that if you put together the wall street
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the Bonnie Blue imac and your message
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bad you've almost got an ipad yeah very
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alright David what do you have to go to
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the starship enterprise and the
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enterprise computer instructions and
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guidelines that strongly consider well
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isn't it the same one all the time I
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don't think it's always ready to
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self-destruct but stop at the last
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minute that always has nature
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it always has a very poor password
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something like X 2 35 now self-destruct
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why I borrow your shades i believe it's
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11 self-destruct one
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yes classy don't forget taking the
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shield's down yes yeah that's important
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is a remote code become do that for four
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digit number its it it's the computer to
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run any spaceship that you're going to
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drive a spaceship I would want that
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computer with major Barrett swine flu
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yeah absolutely
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yeah when it when it goes kablooey it
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calls everyone deer which is nice that's
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a nono what no it's touching yeah
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because it's about to end
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yeah all right outside you can finish it
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alright well with the last pic I i was
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back the 12 inch powerbook which is the
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spiritual ancestor of the macbook air
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line which was it was underpowered and
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weird and I didn't care because it was
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it was awesome it was awesome and small
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and so much computing power and since
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most with but I'm gonna go with what
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maybe my all-time favorite mac and it is
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actually the one that I have today which
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is the 11-inch impossibly small macbook
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air got the SSD it's got that I five or
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i7 processor mines got an i7 it can do
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anything I would ever want a mac to do
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it's super powerful and it's incredibly
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time to r3 11-inch macbook air users up
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yeah right now joy you have a look at
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all right
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as that our followers of Landru would
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say are you of the body anyway so we
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have we have so there's six of us four
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rounds 24 computers some of which
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actually exist in some winter it flights
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of fancy
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Hal 9000 about 9,000 is an underwater
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he's just going to kill you also kits
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are evil twin car alarms right good Lord
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was not here he would pick pockets right
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car anyway i hope that we have really
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wasted an hour of your time with our
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ridiculous pics thanks to everybody on
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my panel for being here
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David Sparkes serenity Caldwell dan
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moore and anne frank's jeff carlson I'm
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Jason Snell this has been the
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incomparable podcast live
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we'll see you next time
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