00:00:00 ◼ ► this episode of Roderick on the line is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/0">TS</a>]
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00:00:14 ◼ ► you want start using slack today by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/14">TS</a>]
00:00:25 ◼ ► hi Merlin how's it going good boy it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/25">TS</a>]
00:00:32 ◼ ► Shh late the Sun is the sun is in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/32">TS</a>]
00:00:36 ◼ ► sky not like when we normally record [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/36">TS</a>]
00:00:39 ◼ ► when the Sun is just peeping up over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/39">TS</a>]
00:00:41 ◼ ► horizon displays in Addis just mocking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/41">TS</a>]
00:00:48 ◼ ► ya hoo happy happy easter thank you uh I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/48">TS</a>]
00:00:53 ◼ ► do feel happy about it you doing special [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/53">TS</a>]
00:00:57 ◼ ► com easter was you know Easter isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/57">TS</a>]
00:01:01 ◼ ► like one of the main holidays in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/61">TS</a>]
00:01:04 ◼ ► culture and tradition it's a it's a it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/64">TS</a>]
00:01:07 ◼ ► is a holiday course I remember my sister [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/67">TS</a>]
00:01:10 ◼ ► when she was a little girl she and I we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/70">TS</a>]
00:01:15 ◼ ► had our own bedrooms but we also had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/75">TS</a>]
00:01:17 ◼ ► bunk bed and sometimes the bunk bed was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/77">TS</a>]
00:01:18 ◼ ► in my room and sometimes it was in her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/78">TS</a>]
00:01:20 ◼ ► room and when the bump it was in my room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/80">TS</a>]
00:01:23 ◼ ► she never came in and slept in my room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/83">TS</a>]
00:01:26 ◼ ► but when the bunk bed was in her room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/86">TS</a>]
00:01:28 ◼ ► sometimes I would go in and sleep in her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/88">TS</a>]
00:01:29 ◼ ► room to like just comfort her and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/89">TS</a>]
00:01:33 ◼ ► remember one Easter morning we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/93">TS</a>]
00:01:36 ◼ ► sitting on the top bunk together looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/96">TS</a>]
00:01:38 ◼ ► out the window and my sister swears now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/98">TS</a>]
00:01:43 ◼ ► I mean I was probably seven she was four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/103">TS</a>]
00:01:49 ◼ ► she swears that we saw the Easter bunny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/109">TS</a>]
00:01:52 ◼ ► Oh in the backyard and she swears to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/112">TS</a>]
00:01:54 ◼ ► to this day my memories are unclear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/114">TS</a>]
00:01:58 ◼ ► about whether or not I saw the Easter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/118">TS</a>]
00:02:02 ◼ ► brotherly fashion reinforced that she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/122">TS</a>]
00:02:05 ◼ ► had seen the Easter Bunny uh huh you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/125">TS</a>]
00:02:07 ◼ ► know it's it's it was a long time ago of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/127">TS</a>]
00:02:12 ◼ ► it feels like it has the biggest net [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/132">TS</a>]
00:02:15 ◼ ► disconnect between why we theoretically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/135">TS</a>]
00:02:17 ◼ ► observe it and then what we actually do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/137">TS</a>]
00:02:20 ◼ ► I moving great with Christmas even if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/140">TS</a>]
00:02:24 ◼ ► probably still have a certain amount of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/144">TS</a>]
00:02:25 ◼ ► like like Christian like Christmas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/145">TS</a>]
00:02:29 ◼ ► carols playing and stuff like that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/149">TS</a>]
00:02:31 ◼ ► like for for not observing people easter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/151">TS</a>]
00:02:33 ◼ ► is really about candy this is a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/153">TS</a>]
00:02:36 ◼ ► like the thing is my daughter's an age [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/156">TS</a>]
00:02:38 ◼ ► where now everything is about candy is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/158">TS</a>]
00:02:41 ◼ ► she's constantly negotiating the candy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/161">TS</a>]
00:02:43 ◼ ► like all day and today has been nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/163">TS</a>]
00:02:44 ◼ ► but a long series of negotiations about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/164">TS</a>]
00:02:47 ◼ ► yeah fortunately my child is still sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/167">TS</a>]
00:02:52 ◼ ► of pre candy who I won't last forever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/172">TS</a>]
00:02:57 ◼ ► uh I have you know frankly on a full [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/177">TS</a>]
00:03:02 ◼ ► disclosure who have not seen her today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/182">TS</a>]
00:03:05 ◼ ► yeah because she went to battling him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/185">TS</a>]
00:03:09 ◼ ► that's nice and they are having a full [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/189">TS</a>]
00:03:11 ◼ ► day where the Easter dress at church and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/191">TS</a>]
00:03:13 ◼ ► all the wonderful American holiday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/193">TS</a>]
00:03:15 ◼ ► traditions and I have been kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/195">TS</a>]
00:03:19 ◼ ► running around like a crazy person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/199">TS</a>]
00:03:21 ◼ ► yeah it getting ready to really nail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/201">TS</a>]
00:03:23 ◼ ► down now the easter evening holiday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/203">TS</a>]
00:03:26 ◼ ► uh no in fact I've been running around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/206">TS</a>]
00:03:28 ◼ ► like a crazy person because I and I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/208">TS</a>]
00:03:33 ◼ ► it's something like to share with our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/213">TS</a>]
00:03:35 ◼ ► listeners have a little bit of surprise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/215">TS</a>]
00:03:37 ◼ ► that i wanted that I want to reveal to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/217">TS</a>]
00:03:39 ◼ ► our listeners that I want to share with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/219">TS</a>]
00:03:41 ◼ ► Merlin my close personal friend I can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/221">TS</a>]
00:03:43 ◼ ► wait to hear already i think i'm ready [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/223">TS</a>]
00:03:46 ◼ ► ru ru when you're ready chair and got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/226">TS</a>]
00:03:51 ◼ ► the bail Reddy better earn it tomorrow i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/231">TS</a>]
00:03:56 ◼ ► am declaring my candidacy for seattle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/236">TS</a>]
00:04:01 ◼ ► that was kind of a muted bell well you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/241">TS</a>]
00:04:05 ◼ ► haha we don't have time to let it ring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/245">TS</a>]
00:04:08 ◼ ► as much as that's right we should get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/248">TS</a>]
00:04:10 ◼ ► right on it as much as you europe europe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/250">TS</a>]
00:04:12 ◼ ► political now John you gotta go right to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/252">TS</a>]
00:04:14 ◼ ► the brass tacks so true I i need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/254">TS</a>]
00:04:17 ◼ ► learn how to give a concise interview [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/257">TS</a>]
00:04:22 ◼ ► oh I gotta write this one down right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/262">TS</a>]
00:04:24 ◼ ► concise interview I need to be able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/264">TS</a>]
00:04:26 ◼ ► say what my policies and plans are in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/266">TS</a>]
00:04:29 ◼ ► very short a truncated sort of sound by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/269">TS</a>]
00:04:34 ◼ ► the way which is intrinsically a method [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/274">TS</a>]
00:04:37 ◼ ► of speaking that I distrust and uh and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/277">TS</a>]
00:04:42 ◼ ► yet it is the way of that this business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/282">TS</a>]
00:04:44 ◼ ► is conducted sometimes ideas can be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/284">TS</a>]
00:04:47 ◼ ► little bit like having nausea we feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/287">TS</a>]
00:04:48 ◼ ► like you're not done until they're all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/288">TS</a>]
00:04:50 ◼ ► out and you know what i mean i'm not i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/290">TS</a>]
00:04:53 ◼ ► I mean I'm taking a break nice-looking a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/293">TS</a>]
00:04:54 ◼ ► lot to get out of here to start a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/294">TS</a>]
00:04:58 ◼ ► opportunities for growth and the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/298">TS</a>]
00:05:00 ◼ ► 1i have is a concise interviews concise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/300">TS</a>]
00:05:02 ◼ ► interviews this is that this is a growth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/302">TS</a>]
00:05:04 ◼ ► opportunity a steak for me and so so as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/304">TS</a>]
00:05:11 ◼ ► as you may or may not know a the the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/311">TS</a>]
00:05:14 ◼ ► that this campaign is going to run there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/314">TS</a>]
00:05:17 ◼ ► is a primary that happens in august and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/317">TS</a>]
00:05:20 ◼ ► in some ways August seems a million [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/320">TS</a>]
00:05:24 ◼ ► miles away but of course i will be doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/324">TS</a>]
00:05:26 ◼ ► lots and lots of going to BBQ news and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/326">TS</a>]
00:05:31 ◼ ► kissing babies and saying what my ideas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/331">TS</a>]
00:05:34 ◼ ► are over and over so there's plenty of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/334">TS</a>]
00:05:36 ◼ ► opportunity between now in august for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/336">TS</a>]
00:05:38 ◼ ► to get my ideas out there right but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/338">TS</a>]
00:05:42 ◼ ► challenge for me is going to be to not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/342">TS</a>]
00:05:45 ◼ ► want to tell everyone all my ideas the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/345">TS</a>]
00:05:47 ◼ ► first time that I meet them or talk to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/347">TS</a>]
00:05:49 ◼ ► them right and also i am running on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/349">TS</a>]
00:05:54 ◼ ► premise that I am listening to your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/354">TS</a>]
00:05:58 ◼ ► ideas you citizens of Seattle and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/358">TS</a>]
00:06:01 ◼ ► people who are listening who are not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/361">TS</a>]
00:06:02 ◼ ► citizens of Seattle who would who feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/362">TS</a>]
00:06:04 ◼ ► like they are in some way a global [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/364">TS</a>]
00:06:09 ◼ ► citizen of Seattle I want to hear other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/369">TS</a>]
00:06:12 ◼ ► people's ideas right i mean that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/372">TS</a>]
00:06:15 ◼ ► about your ideas it's about it's about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/375">TS</a>]
00:06:18 ◼ ► it seems like a road down and not bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/378">TS</a>]
00:06:21 ◼ ► went down and dirty kind of job there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/381">TS</a>]
00:06:22 ◼ ► a lot of things with get millage you got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/382">TS</a>]
00:06:24 ◼ ► zoning you got parking I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/384">TS</a>]
00:06:27 ◼ ► guessing there's a lot of like how the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/387">TS</a>]
00:06:29 ◼ ► city actually functions that second I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/389">TS</a>]
00:06:33 ◼ ► that is exactly right as you know about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/393">TS</a>]
00:06:34 ◼ ► me i am fascinated by all those things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/394">TS</a>]
00:06:37 ◼ ► you love infrastructure i do i love the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/397">TS</a>]
00:06:39 ◼ ► ins and outs the ups and downs i love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/399">TS</a>]
00:06:41 ◼ ► what's under manhole covers that I love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/401">TS</a>]
00:06:43 ◼ ► what's on top of telephone poles and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/403">TS</a>]
00:06:46 ◼ ► the job is ideal for me I i will 3i will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/406">TS</a>]
00:06:50 ◼ ► I will relish sitting at a dais and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/410">TS</a>]
00:06:53 ◼ ► listening to people talk about zoning um [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/413">TS</a>]
00:06:56 ◼ ► but but the challenge in getting there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/416">TS</a>]
00:06:58 ◼ ► is that in our country we have a we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/418">TS</a>]
00:07:06 ◼ ► occupies these rolls right uh people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/426">TS</a>]
00:07:11 ◼ ► that go into government are a certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/431">TS</a>]
00:07:13 ◼ ► kind of person and we typically think of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/433">TS</a>]
00:07:18 ◼ ► them as either lawyers or people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/438">TS</a>]
00:07:21 ◼ ► have sort of been professional activists [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/441">TS</a>]
00:07:24 ◼ ► their whole career and they kind of earn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/444">TS</a>]
00:07:27 ◼ ► the job and then they think of it as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/447">TS</a>]
00:07:33 ◼ ► professional legislature and the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/453">TS</a>]
00:07:39 ◼ ► Democrat in the sense that I think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/459">TS</a>]
00:07:43 ◼ ► government my farmers used to just be in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/463">TS</a>]
00:07:45 ◼ ► office for a while and then they go back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/465">TS</a>]
00:07:48 ◼ ► m-my since we're figuring out how to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/468">TS</a>]
00:07:50 ◼ ► push books off the shelf right down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/470">TS</a>]
00:07:52 ◼ ► going into the tesseract that is through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/472">TS</a>]
00:07:55 ◼ ► a black hole and we don't touch today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/475">TS</a>]
00:07:56 ◼ ► but I tried to watch it i try to watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/476">TS</a>]
00:07:58 ◼ ► it we got a single back i want to talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/478">TS</a>]
00:07:59 ◼ ► about it I really do i I want to hear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/479">TS</a>]
00:08:01 ◼ ► your thoughts on my car hey but listen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/481">TS</a>]
00:08:05 ◼ ► so I'm so I'm trying to convince the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/485">TS</a>]
00:08:07 ◼ ► city of seattle not just that i will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/487">TS</a>]
00:08:09 ◼ ► a great person on this city council but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/489">TS</a>]
00:08:11 ◼ ► also that it is not that dangerous to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/491">TS</a>]
00:08:14 ◼ ► elect somebody who is talking about art [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/494">TS</a>]
00:08:18 ◼ ► as a civic virtue and not every city [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/498">TS</a>]
00:08:22 ◼ ► come in every city councilperson in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/502">TS</a>]
00:08:24 ◼ ► seattle has generally the same ideas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/504">TS</a>]
00:08:26 ◼ ► I mean because Seattle is a liberal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/506">TS</a>]
00:08:28 ◼ ► utopia we all think that there should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/508">TS</a>]
00:08:30 ◼ ► more transit we don't think there should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/510">TS</a>]
00:08:32 ◼ ► be affordable housing right there's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/512">TS</a>]
00:08:34 ◼ ► not like there's somebody running for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/514">TS</a>]
00:08:35 ◼ ► seattle city council who thinks that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/515">TS</a>]
00:08:37 ◼ ► earth was created in seven days and who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/517">TS</a>]
00:08:39 ◼ ► wants a blood wave to sweep away that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/519">TS</a>]
00:08:43 ◼ ► same-sex marriages or whatever the hell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/523">TS</a>]
00:08:46 ◼ ► the platform he would be very unusual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/526">TS</a>]
00:08:48 ◼ ► here know everybody here is a liberal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/528">TS</a>]
00:08:51 ◼ ► and that's a wonderful opportunity and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/531">TS</a>]
00:08:54 ◼ ► my challenges that i'm going to go in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/534">TS</a>]
00:08:55 ◼ ► front of the city and say listen there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/535">TS</a>]
00:08:58 ◼ ► never been an artist on city government [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/538">TS</a>]
00:09:00 ◼ ► and that is precisely what we need and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/540">TS</a>]
00:09:04 ◼ ► that is precisely where we go next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/544">TS</a>]
00:09:08 ◼ ► it's time to take a big leap forward and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/548">TS</a>]
00:09:10 ◼ ► some of that big leap forward is a is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/550">TS</a>]
00:09:13 ◼ ► stretch of the imagination that we not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/553">TS</a>]
00:09:15 ◼ ► keep putting like people who are down in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/555">TS</a>]
00:09:20 ◼ ► the weeds are in a in positions of power [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/560">TS</a>]
00:09:24 ◼ ► on city government because there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/564">TS</a>]
00:09:25 ◼ ► reason to think that they are going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/565">TS</a>]
00:09:26 ◼ ► stay in the weeds right but that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/566">TS</a>]
00:09:30 ◼ ► challenge right out there a lot of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/570">TS</a>]
00:09:31 ◼ ► people that are the gatekeepers between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/571">TS</a>]
00:09:33 ◼ ► me and the citizens of Seattle the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/573">TS</a>]
00:09:36 ◼ ► way they have to compare candidates [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/576">TS</a>]
00:09:37 ◼ ► against one another is this is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/577">TS</a>]
00:09:40 ◼ ► model a lot like well your your your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/580">TS</a>]
00:09:43 ◼ ► opponent says that there should be more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/583">TS</a>]
00:09:44 ◼ ► buses and trains what do you say i also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/584">TS</a>]
00:09:47 ◼ ► think there should be more buses and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/587">TS</a>]
00:09:48 ◼ ► trains well how is that different than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/588">TS</a>]
00:09:50 ◼ ► your opponent frankly it's practically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/590">TS</a>]
00:09:52 ◼ ► not different because the truth is we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/592">TS</a>]
00:09:56 ◼ ► need more buses and trains and I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/596">TS</a>]
00:09:58 ◼ ► there's no why would anybody have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/598">TS</a>]
00:10:00 ◼ ► different attitude right nobody would so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/600">TS</a>]
00:10:03 ◼ ► how do you differentiate between us and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/603">TS</a>]
00:10:05 ◼ ► the differentiation becomes a question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/605">TS</a>]
00:10:07 ◼ ► of who can tell who can tell this story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/607">TS</a>]
00:10:10 ◼ ► to the citizens of Seattle and make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/610">TS</a>]
00:10:16 ◼ ► ultimately the hard work of building a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/616">TS</a>]
00:10:19 ◼ ► that's good that was good oh thank you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/619">TS</a>]
00:10:21 ◼ ► well practicing I have to just do this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/621">TS</a>]
00:10:23 ◼ ► now every day for the next six months [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/623">TS</a>]
00:10:25 ◼ ► right and then then everybody then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/625">TS</a>]
00:10:28 ◼ ► people will then there's a popularity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/628">TS</a>]
00:10:33 ◼ ► candidate is appeals to them more i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/633">TS</a>]
00:10:36 ◼ ► think a lot of voters pick the one whose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/636">TS</a>]
00:10:41 ◼ ► happen I do have good hair so in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/641">TS</a>]
00:10:44 ◼ ► yeah but you got farm-to-table hair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/644">TS</a>]
00:10:45 ◼ ► you've got locally-sourced like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/645">TS</a>]
00:10:47 ◼ ► literally cut your own hair and how many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/647">TS</a>]
00:10:49 ◼ ► other candidates are gonna be able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/649">TS</a>]
00:10:50 ◼ ► say that my man i cannot tell you last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/650">TS</a>]
00:10:52 ◼ ► night i'm writing my platform speech and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/652">TS</a>]
00:10:57 ◼ ► what did i do I decided that I needed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/657">TS</a>]
00:11:00 ◼ ► give myself a haircut two o'clock in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/660">TS</a>]
00:11:03 ◼ ► morning i'm standing in the mirror and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/663">TS</a>]
00:11:04 ◼ ► I'm cutting my hair and of one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/664">TS</a>]
00:11:06 ◼ ► very one of the clearest voices in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/666">TS</a>]
00:11:10 ◼ ► do not cut your hair right now if this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/670">TS</a>]
00:11:14 ◼ ► could go a lot of ways and I lobby [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/674">TS</a>]
00:11:16 ◼ ► vision though it sometimes you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/676">TS</a>]
00:11:18 ◼ ► know how to make that vision being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/678">TS</a>]
00:11:20 ◼ ► implemented in ways that may seem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/680">TS</a>]
00:11:21 ◼ ► non-obvious right right but and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/681">TS</a>]
00:11:24 ◼ ► luckily in this case i did a pretty good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/684">TS</a>]
00:11:26 ◼ ► job of cutting my hair looks pretty good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/686">TS</a>]
00:11:28 ◼ ► but I'm you know what it means is that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/688">TS</a>]
00:11:30 ◼ ► walk out the door the next morning not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/690">TS</a>]
00:11:32 ◼ ► full of hair confidence i walk out the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/692">TS</a>]
00:11:35 ◼ ► door with a little bit of hearing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/695">TS</a>]
00:11:36 ◼ ► society because I cut it in the middle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/696">TS</a>]
00:11:38 ◼ ► of the night with a pair of construction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/698">TS</a>]
00:11:40 ◼ ► paper so that and now I'm walking out to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/700">TS</a>]
00:11:44 ◼ ► stand in front of the city and say I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/704">TS</a>]
00:11:47 ◼ ► an American and also someone who is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/707">TS</a>]
00:11:49 ◼ ► a lunatic and i propose to represent you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/709">TS</a>]
00:11:53 ◼ ► well and effectively in city government [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/713">TS</a>]
00:11:58 ◼ ► any questions hello you there for those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/718">TS</a>]
00:12:01 ◼ ► of you who throws you don't know me I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/721">TS</a>]
00:12:03 ◼ ► gonna rock your next city councilman mm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/723">TS</a>]
00:12:05 ◼ ► well I like the sound of that so and of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/725">TS</a>]
00:12:08 ◼ ► course one of the challenges for me is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/728">TS</a>]
00:12:10 ◼ ► that this podcast for instance here's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/730">TS</a>]
00:12:15 ◼ ► sacrificing and this podcast is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/735">TS</a>]
00:12:21 ◼ ► candidates for City Council have like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/741">TS</a>]
00:12:27 ◼ ► right it's not there isn't a precedent I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/747">TS</a>]
00:12:29 ◼ ► don't think and then it's I think fairly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/749">TS</a>]
00:12:31 ◼ ► rare in government that someone is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/751">TS</a>]
00:12:35 ◼ ► proposing to be in government and also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/755">TS</a>]
00:12:37 ◼ ► once a week talk to his friend with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/757">TS</a>]
00:12:41 ◼ ► uh-huh about what's happening in their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/761">TS</a>]
00:12:43 ◼ ► lives and so it shows that you're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/763">TS</a>]
00:12:45 ◼ ► afraid to discuss the difficult issues [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/765">TS</a>]
00:12:47 ◼ ► well let's let's hope I mean this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/767">TS</a>]
00:12:49 ◼ ► thing we we talk about politicians in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/769">TS</a>]
00:12:51 ◼ ► certain way we want them to be a certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/771">TS</a>]
00:12:55 ◼ ► but the only people who run for office [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/775">TS</a>]
00:12:56 ◼ ► are people with unrealistic hair under [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/776">TS</a>]
00:13:01 ◼ ► some of them have unbelievable hair and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/781">TS</a>]
00:13:03 ◼ ► who tell us you know who do that thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/783">TS</a>]
00:13:09 ◼ ► actually do have a foolproof plan and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/789">TS</a>]
00:13:13 ◼ ► the only people who really believe they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/793">TS</a>]
00:13:15 ◼ ► have a foolproof plan are our other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/795">TS</a>]
00:13:17 ◼ ► fools who have not who don't have enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/797">TS</a>]
00:13:20 ◼ ► information to know how wrong they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/800">TS</a>]
00:13:22 ◼ ► or sociopaths the reality is if you go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/802">TS</a>]
00:13:27 ◼ ► into public office what you should say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/807">TS</a>]
00:13:28 ◼ ► first and foremost is I am going into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/808">TS</a>]
00:13:30 ◼ ► this job to listen to people and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/810">TS</a>]
00:13:33 ◼ ► here every side and and I mean somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/813">TS</a>]
00:13:36 ◼ ► has to choose and that's who you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/816">TS</a>]
00:13:38 ◼ ► pointing you elect people to office to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/818">TS</a>]
00:13:41 ◼ ► choose on your behalf but what makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/821">TS</a>]
00:13:44 ◼ ► that person a good chooser is not that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/824">TS</a>]
00:13:47 ◼ ► they go into office already with it with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/827">TS</a>]
00:13:49 ◼ ► it like an unshakable faith in their own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/829">TS</a>]
00:13:52 ◼ ► ideas right it's what makes them a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/832">TS</a>]
00:13:54 ◼ ► choosers that they are that they're good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/834">TS</a>]
00:13:56 ◼ ► listeners that they are thoughtful that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/836">TS</a>]
00:13:59 ◼ ► they have a bra breadth of knowledge and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/839">TS</a>]
00:14:02 ◼ ► then you empower that person to choose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/842">TS</a>]
00:14:04 ◼ ► for for you and you have your faith in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/844">TS</a>]
00:14:08 ◼ ► them you trust that they're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/848">TS</a>]
00:14:09 ◼ ► choose based on what they have learned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/849">TS</a>]
00:14:11 ◼ ► not based on what they already know her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/851">TS</a>]
00:14:15 ◼ ► based on what they think they know are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/855">TS</a>]
00:14:16 ◼ ► based on what they've known since they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/856">TS</a>]
00:14:18 ◼ ► were five because everything they ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/858">TS</a>]
00:14:22 ◼ ► yeah especially for a job or you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/862">TS</a>]
00:14:25 ◼ ► what I mean is that it is a again I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/865">TS</a>]
00:14:28 ◼ ► don't know anything about politics but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/868">TS</a>]
00:14:30 ◼ ► it strikes me that is a very it's it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/870">TS</a>]
00:14:34 ◼ ► job where there's lots of where the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/874">TS</a>]
00:14:38 ◼ ► potentially fairly short path from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/878">TS</a>]
00:14:41 ◼ ► hopefully seemed like a good idea to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/881">TS</a>]
00:14:43 ◼ ► being something that's doable to being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/883">TS</a>]
00:14:44 ◼ ► something that can be implemented [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/884">TS</a>]
00:14:45 ◼ ► whereas you could run as 11 could run as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/885">TS</a>]
00:14:49 ◼ ► an outsider in a presidential race [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/889">TS</a>]
00:14:51 ◼ ► mostly just stir things up and change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/891">TS</a>]
00:14:53 ◼ ► the kinds of conversations that people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/893">TS</a>]
00:14:54 ◼ ► have but you know there's obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/894">TS</a>]
00:14:56 ◼ ► there's no evidence that that person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/896">TS</a>]
00:14:59 ◼ ► president but it would become clear if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/899">TS</a>]
00:15:01 ◼ ► they if they didn't have the gust 0 to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/901">TS</a>]
00:15:05 ◼ ► so what I'm trying to avoid what my wife [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/905">TS</a>]
00:15:11 ◼ ► Johnson's doesn't hate bureaucracy and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/911">TS</a>]
00:15:14 ◼ ► bureaucracy because he does not consider [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/914">TS</a>]
00:15:18 ◼ ► not in the sense of being like busywork [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/918">TS</a>]
00:15:20 ◼ ► or deliver push back to make government [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/920">TS</a>]
00:15:23 ◼ ► opaque and we have that episode we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/923">TS</a>]
00:15:25 ◼ ► talked about Romania where they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/925">TS</a>]
00:15:27 ◼ ► have any they don't have as so much of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/927">TS</a>]
00:15:30 ◼ ► I'm gonna get you trouble I don't you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/930">TS</a>]
00:15:34 ◼ ► specifically that you'll be driving down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/934">TS</a>]
00:15:36 ◼ ► necessarily there has been that way for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/936">TS</a>]
00:15:38 ◼ ► months and it's a bureaucracy that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/938">TS</a>]
00:15:39 ◼ ► enables you to have that sort of stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/939">TS</a>]
00:15:42 ◼ ► having the right people make those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/942">TS</a>]
00:15:43 ◼ ► decisions make sure that the sore loser [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/943">TS</a>]
00:15:46 ◼ ► I write an effective bureaucracy is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/946">TS</a>]
00:15:53 ◼ ► yeah and again a bureaucracy is another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/953">TS</a>]
00:15:55 ◼ ► thought technology that it's it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/955">TS</a>]
00:15:58 ◼ ► our invention and if it works well my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/958">TS</a>]
00:16:01 ◼ ► goodness you have you have someplace to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/961">TS</a>]
00:16:07 ◼ ► something might actually be done about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/967">TS</a>]
00:16:08 ◼ ► right file a complaint and somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/968">TS</a>]
00:16:09 ◼ ► actually takes your complaint and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/969">TS</a>]
00:16:11 ◼ ► something changes right so no i mean i-i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/971">TS</a>]
00:16:16 ◼ ► government and the thing about the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/976">TS</a>]
00:16:19 ◼ ► about it here is that we really are what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/979">TS</a>]
00:16:22 ◼ ► what's what's so fantastic about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/982">TS</a>]
00:16:24 ◼ ► moment is that I think nationwide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/984">TS</a>]
00:16:28 ◼ ► there's this tremendous frustration we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/988">TS</a>]
00:16:30 ◼ ► feel like nothing is working now that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/990">TS</a>]
00:16:32 ◼ ► you know it's never been worse than it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/992">TS</a>]
00:16:34 ◼ ► is now you hear people say that all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/994">TS</a>]
00:16:36 ◼ ► time people people young people kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/996">TS</a>]
00:16:38 ◼ ► saving up asking as your grandparents [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/998">TS</a>]
00:16:40 ◼ ► about that all right hand and a certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1000">TS</a>]
00:16:43 ◼ ► level you know because because things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1003">TS</a>]
00:16:46 ◼ ► like Ferguson happening because there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1006">TS</a>]
00:16:48 ◼ ► there's a greater wealth inequality than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1008">TS</a>]
00:16:51 ◼ ► there's ever been to be at least in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1011">TS</a>]
00:16:53 ◼ ► people's immediate lifetimes they feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1013">TS</a>]
00:16:57 ◼ ► insurmountable and it's know and i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1017">TS</a>]
00:16:59 ◼ ► giving up hope and I'm a cynic it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1019">TS</a>]
00:17:01 ◼ ► there's no chance for us but in fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1021">TS</a>]
00:17:03 ◼ ► things have never been better than they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1023">TS</a>]
00:17:06 ◼ ► are now there's never been more justice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1026">TS</a>]
00:17:09 ◼ ► than there is now there's never been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1029">TS</a>]
00:17:10 ◼ ► more quality than there is now like we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1030">TS</a>]
00:17:12 ◼ ► have succeeded so much and now we're out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1032">TS</a>]
00:17:17 ◼ ► sip of making a giant stride people we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1037">TS</a>]
00:17:21 ◼ ► have the technology to do it we have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1041">TS</a>]
00:17:23 ◼ ► consensus it at least in our cities that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1043">TS</a>]
00:17:27 ◼ ► mean seattle is a liberal uh it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1047">TS</a>]
00:17:31 ◼ ► us like a giant city where over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1051">TS</a>]
00:17:35 ◼ ► course of decades a pretty radical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1055">TS</a>]
00:17:39 ◼ ► liberal consensus has settled in to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1059">TS</a>]
00:17:41 ◼ ► place like even the Chamber of Commerce [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1061">TS</a>]
00:17:45 ◼ ► in seattle is liberal deeply liberal and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1065">TS</a>]
00:17:52 ◼ ► opportunity but the thing about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1072">TS</a>]
00:17:54 ◼ ► thing about us is liberals have always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1074">TS</a>]
00:17:56 ◼ ► felt persecuted they felt persecuted by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1076">TS</a>]
00:17:58 ◼ ► the FBI and the police that the FBI was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1078">TS</a>]
00:18:01 ◼ ► was wiretapping Martin Luther King like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1081">TS</a>]
00:18:04 ◼ ► we're used to being in the opposition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1084">TS</a>]
00:18:07 ◼ ► and so in a city like Seattle it's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1087">TS</a>]
00:18:11 ◼ ► hard for the Liberals here to recognize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1091">TS</a>]
00:18:12 ◼ ► we are in charge here we this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1092">TS</a>]
00:18:16 ◼ ► liberal utopia that is on the cusp of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1096">TS</a>]
00:18:19 ◼ ► happening and we just have to we have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1099">TS</a>]
00:18:22 ◼ ► recognize that we are the establishment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1102">TS</a>]
00:18:24 ◼ ► now and we can make a radical liberal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1104">TS</a>]
00:18:31 ◼ ► we just have to first of all recognize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1111">TS</a>]
00:18:34 ◼ ► that we are not we're not proposing a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1114">TS</a>]
00:18:37 ◼ ► violent revolution against ourselves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1117">TS</a>]
00:18:39 ◼ ► like where the establishment we can put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1119">TS</a>]
00:18:41 ◼ ► our policies into place and I really do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1121">TS</a>]
00:18:45 ◼ ► believe more than ever before that who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1125">TS</a>]
00:18:49 ◼ ► were on the verge of a technology [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1129">TS</a>]
00:18:51 ◼ ► we've talked about this you and me so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1131">TS</a>]
00:18:54 ◼ ► much but like we are in the next five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1134">TS</a>]
00:18:58 ◼ ► years going to see technology transform [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1138">TS</a>]
00:19:01 ◼ ► cities like that the promise of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1141">TS</a>]
00:19:04 ◼ ► internet me no matter how II is sitting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1144">TS</a>]
00:19:07 ◼ ► in his driveway trying to get his garage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1147">TS</a>]
00:19:08 ◼ ► door to open from his phone and we laugh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1148">TS</a>]
00:19:11 ◼ ► but the reality is that is the way that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1151">TS</a>]
00:19:17 ◼ ► transform our urban life and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1157">TS</a>]
00:19:21 ◼ ► incredibly exciting and nobody in city [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1161">TS</a>]
00:19:24 ◼ ► government here or in san francisco or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1164">TS</a>]
00:19:29 ◼ ► trying to say listen in the next 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1169">TS</a>]
00:19:31 ◼ ► years a lot of these 20th century [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1171">TS</a>]
00:19:33 ◼ ► problems are going to change radically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1173">TS</a>]
00:19:35 ◼ ► and seattle is still trying to build a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1175">TS</a>]
00:19:39 ◼ ► highway tunnel under the city to solve a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1179">TS</a>]
00:19:43 ◼ ► twentieth-century traffic problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1183">TS</a>]
00:19:45 ◼ ► uh-huh okay you know what I mean yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1185">TS</a>]
00:19:47 ◼ ► yeah but the 21st century solution is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1187">TS</a>]
00:19:53 ◼ ► the thing is we can't quite see it right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1193">TS</a>]
00:19:55 ◼ ► Elon Musk is developing it in his garage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1195">TS</a>]
00:19:58 ◼ ► but it's actually real you know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1198">TS</a>]
00:20:02 ◼ ► we're gonna have we're gonna have a real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1202">TS</a>]
00:20:06 ◼ ► switcheroo in terms of what what are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1206">TS</a>]
00:20:11 ◼ ► what are benign toolboxes so anyway we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1211">TS</a>]
00:20:16 ◼ ► have in seattle at least we have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1216">TS</a>]
00:20:17 ◼ ► little a general liberal consensus we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1217">TS</a>]
00:20:21 ◼ ► technology wave and we also like San [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1221">TS</a>]
00:20:24 ◼ ► Francisco have this prosperity wave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1224">TS</a>]
00:20:27 ◼ ► there's so much money right and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1227">TS</a>]
00:20:33 ◼ ► just time to turn that money into cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1233">TS</a>]
00:20:36 ◼ ► things you know school city thing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1236">TS</a>]
00:20:38 ◼ ► thing is how he strikes me I always um [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1238">TS</a>]
00:20:41 ◼ ► like what our current president was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1241">TS</a>]
00:20:44 ◼ ► running for president I was one of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1244">TS</a>]
00:20:46 ◼ ► people that one of those very relatively [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1246">TS</a>]
00:20:48 ◼ ► few people most of my friends were like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1248">TS</a>]
00:20:50 ◼ ► that guy seems amazing he's certainly a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1250">TS</a>]
00:20:53 ◼ ► he's obviously got a great heart but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1253">TS</a>]
00:20:56 ◼ ► was always a little more than a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1256">TS</a>]
00:20:58 ◼ ► bit resistant although I was resistant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1258">TS</a>]
00:21:01 ◼ ► to him being marketed in terms of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1261">TS</a>]
00:21:03 ◼ ► word hope but I was downright cynical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1263">TS</a>]
00:21:05 ◼ ► about how much I felt like people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1265">TS</a>]
00:21:08 ◼ ► didn't understand what's really involved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1268">TS</a>]
00:21:10 ◼ ► in being the president and I don't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1270">TS</a>]
00:21:12 ◼ ► talk about it today because you know i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1272">TS</a>]
00:21:14 ◼ ► think the guy still does a pretty great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1274">TS</a>]
00:21:16 ◼ ► job but at the same time you know those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1276">TS</a>]
00:21:18 ◼ ► posters probably seemed a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1278">TS</a>]
00:21:19 ◼ ► weird i mean if you if you like Martian [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1279">TS</a>]
00:21:21 ◼ ► Selma oh my god talk about hope I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1281">TS</a>]
00:21:24 ◼ ► what what could be a greater thing i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1284">TS</a>]
00:21:26 ◼ ► would not in a million years but I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1286">TS</a>]
00:21:27 ◼ ► it's important that instance to separate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1287">TS</a>]
00:21:29 ◼ ► the the amazing historical shift then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1289">TS</a>]
00:21:32 ◼ ► specifically and having the block IB [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1292">TS</a>]
00:21:34 ◼ ► president it's huge but I the things we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1294">TS</a>]
00:21:39 ◼ ► this for his job and even more so maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1299">TS</a>]
00:21:41 ◼ ► for your job is like how much of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1301">TS</a>]
00:21:44 ◼ ► maybe that's not strictly true but how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1304">TS</a>]
00:21:46 ◼ ► much of your day you end up having to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1306">TS</a>]
00:21:48 ◼ ► decide who's gonna be disappointed by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1308">TS</a>]
00:21:50 ◼ ► what you decide what you decided i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1310">TS</a>]
00:21:52 ◼ ► know how much you get to decide but by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1312">TS</a>]
00:21:54 ◼ ► how much has to be implemented in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1314">TS</a>]
00:21:56 ◼ ► certain way for the greater good or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1316">TS</a>]
00:21:58 ◼ ► whatever that's the part that I that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1318">TS</a>]
00:22:00 ◼ ► find so for me also unappealing about a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1320">TS</a>]
00:22:04 ◼ ► yeah and I would find it so difficult to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1324">TS</a>]
00:22:06 ◼ ► know what you I mean anybody's you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1326">TS</a>]
00:22:08 ◼ ► you've had to run a band out of a van [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1328">TS</a>]
00:22:10 ◼ ► and you know what it means when you say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1330">TS</a>]
00:22:12 ◼ ► no we can't take a pee break now and no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1332">TS</a>]
00:22:15 ◼ ► he's not in the budget it's not fun but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1335">TS</a>]
00:22:18 ◼ ► I i wonder how you feel about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1338">TS</a>]
00:22:19 ◼ ► because it just seems like no matter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1339">TS</a>]
00:22:22 ◼ ► what job you take in politics setting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1342">TS</a>]
00:22:24 ◼ ► aside all the optics of how you end up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1344">TS</a>]
00:22:25 ◼ ► looking a certain way to somebody it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1345">TS</a>]
00:22:27 ◼ ► seems like a block of your job has to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1347">TS</a>]
00:22:29 ◼ ► saying no or maybe at times it would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1349">TS</a>]
00:22:32 ◼ ► nice to be able to just always say yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1352">TS</a>]
00:22:33 ◼ ► when this is the this is the reason that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1353">TS</a>]
00:22:36 ◼ ► we have such a struggle with with people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1356">TS</a>]
00:22:39 ◼ ► that hold public office is that every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1359">TS</a>]
00:22:42 ◼ ► single situation involves somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1362">TS</a>]
00:22:49 ◼ ► collecting people who are dishonest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1369">TS</a>]
00:22:52 ◼ ► about that and who say we can have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1372">TS</a>]
00:22:56 ◼ ► everything we can have our cake and eat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1376">TS</a>]
00:22:58 ◼ ► everybody wins and making sacrifices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1378">TS</a>]
00:23:02 ◼ ► isn't bad like it's part of living in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1382">TS</a>]
00:23:06 ◼ ► city it's part of its part of being part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1386">TS</a>]
00:23:09 ◼ ► of a family right you make sacrifices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1389">TS</a>]
00:23:11 ◼ ► and there's something incredibly noble [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1391">TS</a>]
00:23:15 ◼ ► about that and the problem with our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1395">TS</a>]
00:23:17 ◼ ► culture is that we we are afraid to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1397">TS</a>]
00:23:20 ◼ ► that and so we lie about it and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1400">TS</a>]
00:23:23 ◼ ► when the sacrifices come people feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1403">TS</a>]
00:23:24 ◼ ► betrayed the what we need are people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1404">TS</a>]
00:23:30 ◼ ► go up to public office and say listen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1410">TS</a>]
00:23:32 ◼ ► everybody's going to have to pitch in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1412">TS</a>]
00:23:33 ◼ ► here and that's a wonderful thing that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1413">TS</a>]
00:23:36 ◼ ► a wonderful business and a and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1416">TS</a>]
00:23:39 ◼ ► people that have the opportunity to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1419">TS</a>]
00:23:43 ◼ ► who have the prosperity the kitchen a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1423">TS</a>]
00:23:46 ◼ ► little bit more right like here's how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1426">TS</a>]
00:23:48 ◼ ► and we welcome your contribution and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1428">TS</a>]
00:23:51 ◼ ► know so often from the left there's this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1431">TS</a>]
00:23:54 ◼ ► sense of of saying like well income [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1434">TS</a>]
00:23:56 ◼ ► inequality is uh is this intolerable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1436">TS</a>]
00:24:00 ◼ ► thing which it is but what that means is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1440">TS</a>]
00:24:02 ◼ ► that the rich are enemy and the only way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1442">TS</a>]
00:24:06 ◼ ► that we will redistribute the wealth is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1446">TS</a>]
00:24:08 ◼ ► that we go to war with the rich and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1448">TS</a>]
00:24:12 ◼ ► that's very galvanizing it makes people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1452">TS</a>]
00:24:16 ◼ ► feel like boy you've really got a plan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1456">TS</a>]
00:24:18 ◼ ► and where we've got we're going to take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1458">TS</a>]
00:24:20 ◼ ► some action here also that you're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1460">TS</a>]
00:24:22 ◼ ► afraid to tell me the thing I kinda was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1462">TS</a>]
00:24:24 ◼ ► expecting to hear and wanted to hear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1464">TS</a>]
00:24:25 ◼ ► yeah right you're not which is very very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1465">TS</a>]
00:24:27 ◼ ► simple tell me the exciting thing that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1467">TS</a>]
00:24:30 ◼ ► already thought but it's very different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1470">TS</a>]
00:24:35 ◼ ► certainly the people in Seattle who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1475">TS</a>]
00:24:37 ◼ ► the most rich and the most famous you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1477">TS</a>]
00:24:41 ◼ ► know there are people that had an idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1481">TS</a>]
00:24:43 ◼ ► and they turned it into a business in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1483">TS</a>]
00:24:44 ◼ ► them then American capitalism took that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1484">TS</a>]
00:24:46 ◼ ► business and turn it into an enormous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1486">TS</a>]
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00:32:43 ◼ ► the pain out of staying connected and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1963">TS</a>]
00:32:45 ◼ ► for supporting Roderick on the line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1965">TS</a>]
00:32:46 ◼ ► there's a pivot that I think first of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1966">TS</a>]
00:32:48 ◼ ► all I don't know why at the 30-minute [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1968">TS</a>]
00:32:51 ◼ ► mark I feel the need to say this I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1971">TS</a>]
00:32:53 ◼ ► to point out is not a prefers this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1973">TS</a>]
00:32:54 ◼ ► real John is actually doing this like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1974">TS</a>]
00:32:56 ◼ ► you you know people are going to ask [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1976">TS</a>]
00:32:58 ◼ ► yeah well I'm and one of the things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1978">TS</a>]
00:33:00 ◼ ► about one of the things about my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1980">TS</a>]
00:33:03 ◼ ► candidacy is that it is an unusual thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1983">TS</a>]
00:33:06 ◼ ► for somebody like me to run for public [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1986">TS</a>]
00:33:08 ◼ ► office and and so yeah they're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1988">TS</a>]
00:33:13 ◼ ► be people who are like can this can this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1993">TS</a>]
00:33:15 ◼ ► be real and so you got you got Peter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1995">TS</a>]
00:33:17 ◼ ► Garrett you got jello biafra you got Tom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/1997">TS</a>]
00:33:20 ◼ ► Ammiano you got all kinds of people from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2000">TS</a>]
00:33:21 ◼ ► the arts moving into politics you got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2001">TS</a>]
00:33:23 ◼ ► that the ronald reagan ronald reagan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2003">TS</a>]
00:33:25 ◼ ► that's right he moved from the arts into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2005">TS</a>]
00:33:27 ◼ ► politics and brought his brought this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2007">TS</a>]
00:33:29 ◼ ► classic artistic sensibility to what we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2009">TS</a>]
00:33:32 ◼ ► look for direct knowledge pick the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2012">TS</a>]
00:33:34 ◼ ► conduct of his office both as governor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2014">TS</a>]
00:33:38 ◼ ► yeah you really wanted to do to San [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2018">TS</a>]
00:33:40 ◼ ► Francisco with highways who dr. well he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2020">TS</a>]
00:33:43 ◼ ► you know Reagan is the one who took art [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2023">TS</a>]
00:33:45 ◼ ► who defunded art right he's the one that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2025">TS</a>]
00:33:48 ◼ ► defunded the Arts in America because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2028">TS</a>]
00:33:50 ◼ ► Robert Mapplethorpe did some to add some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2030">TS</a>]
00:33:55 ◼ ► naked pictures yeah yeah and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2035">TS</a>]
00:33:58 ◼ ► and that is that's a legacy that we are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2038">TS</a>]
00:34:03 ◼ ► still suffering from ok so here's a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2043">TS</a>]
00:34:05 ◼ ► thing on during our the big pivot is I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2045">TS</a>]
00:34:09 ◼ ► curious the questions i have I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2049">TS</a>]
00:34:11 ◼ ► we'll have plenty of time to hear about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2051">TS</a>]
00:34:13 ◼ ► haha i've had had a good three years of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2053">TS</a>]
00:34:17 ◼ ► hearing about your platform already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2057">TS</a>]
00:34:18 ◼ ► oh you wanna hear about my platform [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2058">TS</a>]
00:34:20 ◼ ► gonna call you after we get done with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2060">TS</a>]
00:34:21 ◼ ► this podcast and i've been napping on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2061">TS</a>]
00:34:23 ◼ ► your platform from us and the past [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2063">TS</a>]
00:34:26 ◼ ► supertree but we're going here goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2066">TS</a>]
00:34:29 ◼ ► so the I don't know um i guess i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2069">TS</a>]
00:34:33 ◼ ► curious about their students i can go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2073">TS</a>]
00:34:35 ◼ ► and you can pick which one of these you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2075">TS</a>]
00:34:37 ◼ ► want but the the the what kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2077">TS</a>]
00:34:39 ◼ ► question i'm super curious about is how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2079">TS</a>]
00:34:41 ◼ ► does this change stuff in your in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2081">TS</a>]
00:34:43 ◼ ► your life and you talk about it anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2083">TS</a>]
00:34:46 ◼ ► you want the other thing i'd like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2086">TS</a>]
00:34:48 ◼ ► talk about is what do you think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2088">TS</a>]
00:34:50 ◼ ► gonna be most difficult about this you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2090">TS</a>]
00:34:51 ◼ ► can take the second question first if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2091">TS</a>]
00:34:52 ◼ ► you want i want i mean what's difficult [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2092">TS</a>]
00:34:55 ◼ ► about this not just in terms of making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2095">TS</a>]
00:34:57 ◼ ► it happen what's hard for you what do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2097">TS</a>]
00:34:58 ◼ ► you have to sacrifice one of the things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2098">TS</a>]
00:35:00 ◼ ► you're most on the bubble about either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2100">TS</a>]
00:35:04 ◼ ► sacrifice that like you kind of go now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2104">TS</a>]
00:35:06 ◼ ► I'm gonna miss that being that way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2106">TS</a>]
00:35:08 ◼ ► other things like that there you go like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2108">TS</a>]
00:35:10 ◼ ► well I'm gonna set these kinds of things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2110">TS</a>]
00:35:13 ◼ ► yeah but in the run-up to this I talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2113">TS</a>]
00:35:16 ◼ ► to a lot of people in the professional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2116">TS</a>]
00:35:18 ◼ ► political class and they all gave me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2118">TS</a>]
00:35:20 ◼ ► very good advice it was all super good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2120">TS</a>]
00:35:22 ◼ ► advice but and and over the course of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2122">TS</a>]
00:35:26 ◼ ► several weeks of thinking about it all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2126">TS</a>]
00:35:28 ◼ ► that advice creek caused a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2128">TS</a>]
00:35:30 ◼ ► anxiety in me because the way that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2130">TS</a>]
00:35:33 ◼ ► people in the professional political [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2133">TS</a>]
00:35:34 ◼ ► class imagine it is that you run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2134">TS</a>]
00:35:36 ◼ ► somebody for office is that they have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2136">TS</a>]
00:35:39 ◼ ► plan of a certain way of doing things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2139">TS</a>]
00:35:41 ◼ ► and your plan should have a certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2141">TS</a>]
00:35:44 ◼ ► well it's but the thing is it's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2144">TS</a>]
00:35:46 ◼ ► interesting listicle for politics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2146">TS</a>]
00:35:48 ◼ ► it really is right but it is very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2148">TS</a>]
00:35:50 ◼ ► analogous to what happens when you're a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2150">TS</a>]
00:35:52 ◼ ► brand new band and you're about to put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2152">TS</a>]
00:35:54 ◼ ► your record out everybody that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2154">TS</a>]
00:35:56 ◼ ► talked to in the music industry has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2156">TS</a>]
00:35:58 ◼ ► very clear idea about what you need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2158">TS</a>]
00:35:59 ◼ ► do next and they are more than happy to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2159">TS</a>]
00:36:03 ◼ ► tell you about what you need to do and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2163">TS</a>]
00:36:06 ◼ ► the problem is that that's all true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2166">TS</a>]
00:36:08 ◼ ► until a man comes along that doesn't do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2168">TS</a>]
00:36:10 ◼ ► any of those things and becomes the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2170">TS</a>]
00:36:11 ◼ ► biggest band in the world right and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2171">TS</a>]
00:36:13 ◼ ► this was when i joined the music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2173">TS</a>]
00:36:16 ◼ ► everybody said I mean that seriously I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2176">TS</a>]
00:36:19 ◼ ► people said oh don't go on the internet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2179">TS</a>]
00:36:21 ◼ ► and talk to your fans right they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2181">TS</a>]
00:36:23 ◼ ► you know you need to maintain an air [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2183">TS</a>]
00:36:25 ◼ ► mystique that's just rock and roll and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2185">TS</a>]
00:36:28 ◼ ► they say oh you need to you know don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2188">TS</a>]
00:36:30 ◼ ► waste your money releasing vinyl nobody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2190">TS</a>]
00:36:33 ◼ ► save that money to spend on opening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2193">TS</a>]
00:36:37 ◼ ► weekend to try and get your record in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2197">TS</a>]
00:36:41 ◼ ► I'll say that for pitch for cats right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2201">TS</a>]
00:36:43 ◼ ► but you know or just like or you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2203">TS</a>]
00:36:45 ◼ ► get it on myspace or whatever I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2205">TS</a>]
00:36:47 ◼ ► everybody knew exactly what you were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2207">TS</a>]
00:36:49 ◼ ► supposed to do until until the game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2209">TS</a>]
00:36:53 ◼ ► changed and that wasn't how you did it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2213">TS</a>]
00:36:56 ◼ ► so in the run-up to this people were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2216">TS</a>]
00:36:59 ◼ ► giving me a lot of advice and what they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2219">TS</a>]
00:37:00 ◼ ► were trying to do was either put me into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2220">TS</a>]
00:37:02 ◼ ► a box where I was claiming to be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2222">TS</a>]
00:37:06 ◼ ► social activist or I was claiming to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2226">TS</a>]
00:37:09 ◼ ► a you know like up like that music had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2229">TS</a>]
00:37:14 ◼ ► been this hobby but really i'd been a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2234">TS</a>]
00:37:16 ◼ ► secret politician the whole time and at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2236">TS</a>]
00:37:19 ◼ ► a certain point a few weeks ago I i said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2239">TS</a>]
00:37:22 ◼ ► to this group of advisors I was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2242">TS</a>]
00:37:24 ◼ ► listen okay you know what this is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2244">TS</a>]
00:37:27 ◼ ► is causing me a lot of stress because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2247">TS</a>]
00:37:29 ◼ ► I'm not either one of those things i am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2249">TS</a>]
00:37:31 ◼ ► an artist and I made a life for myself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2251">TS</a>]
00:37:33 ◼ ► as an artist and I believe in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2253">TS</a>]
00:37:35 ◼ ► transformative power of art and if i can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2255">TS</a>]
00:37:38 ◼ ► get elected to the seattle city council [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2258">TS</a>]
00:37:39 ◼ ► up with that then I can then i will run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2259">TS</a>]
00:37:44 ◼ ► because i believe it and I believe that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2264">TS</a>]
00:37:49 ◼ ► that art is a is one of the pillars of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2269">TS</a>]
00:37:52 ◼ ► civilization if you are telling me that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2272">TS</a>]
00:37:55 ◼ ► the only way I can get elected to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2275">TS</a>]
00:37:57 ◼ ► seattle city council is that I pretend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2277">TS</a>]
00:37:58 ◼ ► that I've been a housing activists this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2278">TS</a>]
00:38:01 ◼ ► entire time or that I that I portray [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2281">TS</a>]
00:38:03 ◼ ► myself as a as like a legal expert on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2283">TS</a>]
00:38:09 ◼ ► local government then there's no point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2289">TS</a>]
00:38:12 ◼ ► there's no point in me lying to people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2292">TS</a>]
00:38:14 ◼ ► because every other candidate is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2294">TS</a>]
00:38:16 ◼ ► portraying themselves in a certain light [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2296">TS</a>]
00:38:18 ◼ ► and I'm just I have to just be myself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2298">TS</a>]
00:38:20 ◼ ► and I do believe that I can get elected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2300">TS</a>]
00:38:23 ◼ ► by doing that but it requires that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2303">TS</a>]
00:38:26 ◼ ► that we change people's expectations i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2306">TS</a>]
00:38:31 ◼ ► guess but so that is the that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2311">TS</a>]
00:38:34 ◼ ► thing that's caused me the most stress [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2314">TS</a>]
00:38:36 ◼ ► and it is the thing that is maybe going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2316">TS</a>]
00:38:38 ◼ ► to be the most difficult um you know for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2318">TS</a>]
00:38:43 ◼ ► me personally I have I relish my free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2323">TS</a>]
00:38:50 ◼ ► time and I relish the fact that i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2330">TS</a>]
00:38:53 ◼ ► have to wake up at the crack of dawn but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2333">TS</a>]
00:38:55 ◼ ► I wasn't gonna bring it up and this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2335">TS</a>]
00:38:58 ◼ ► going to require that I that I change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2338">TS</a>]
00:39:01 ◼ ► that about myself but you know that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2341">TS</a>]
00:39:08 ◼ ► global that is a you know those are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2348">TS</a>]
00:39:10 ◼ ► luxuries that by afforded myself but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2350">TS</a>]
00:39:14 ◼ ► I've said on this podcast and you and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2354">TS</a>]
00:39:16 ◼ ► have talked for years about the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2356">TS</a>]
00:39:18 ◼ ► that you have to set that you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2358">TS</a>]
00:39:23 ◼ ► set your aspirations for yourself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2363">TS</a>]
00:39:25 ◼ ► somewhere and you get to be 45 years old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2365">TS</a>]
00:39:29 ◼ ► and there's a tremendous pole to set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2369">TS</a>]
00:39:33 ◼ ► your aspirations for yourself right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2373">TS</a>]
00:39:37 ◼ ► oh you know what my aspirations are to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2377">TS</a>]
00:39:38 ◼ ► just keep burbling along like I'm doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2378">TS</a>]
00:39:41 ◼ ► there's a lot less disappointing right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2381">TS</a>]
00:39:43 ◼ ► right because it's so scary to be 45 and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2383">TS</a>]
00:39:45 ◼ ► to do something that puts you right back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2385">TS</a>]
00:39:49 ◼ ► in a place where you don't know what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2389">TS</a>]
00:39:51 ◼ ► it's much better to be like I know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2391">TS</a>]
00:39:54 ◼ ► neighborhood I like to go to and I and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2394">TS</a>]
00:39:56 ◼ ► I'd I go to the pub and they know me by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2396">TS</a>]
00:39:58 ◼ ► name and and I'm doing pretty good but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2398">TS</a>]
00:40:04 ◼ ► but that isn't that isn't enough for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2404">TS</a>]
00:40:06 ◼ ► and never has been in and so you know do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2406">TS</a>]
00:40:09 ◼ ► I have to get up in the morning in order [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2409">TS</a>]
00:40:14 ◼ ► and do i have to learn to love it i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2414">TS</a>]
00:40:18 ◼ ► not sure if that's possible but it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2418">TS</a>]
00:40:21 ◼ ► you know I am galvanized by a desire to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2421">TS</a>]
00:40:25 ◼ ► do something you know to take the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2425">TS</a>]
00:40:28 ◼ ► privilege that Seattle has afforded me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2428">TS</a>]
00:40:30 ◼ ► and and turn that back into sacrifice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2430">TS</a>]
00:40:36 ◼ ► yeah but like specifically candidate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2436">TS</a>]
00:40:40 ◼ ► like what it what do you what do you uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2440">TS</a>]
00:40:43 ◼ ► what I realize this is gonna be a crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2443">TS</a>]
00:40:45 ◼ ► process and there's a lot of sugar be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2445">TS</a>]
00:40:48 ◼ ► learning about and reacting to as it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2448">TS</a>]
00:40:49 ◼ ► comes along but you know do you have in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2449">TS</a>]
00:40:51 ◼ ► mind are there things that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2451">TS</a>]
00:40:52 ◼ ► already where you go well that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2452">TS</a>]
00:40:54 ◼ ► thing i'm just not gonna be able to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2454">TS</a>]
00:40:56 ◼ ► or the way that I like or at all or in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2456">TS</a>]
00:41:01 ◼ ► I mean obviously there's a thing of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2461">TS</a>]
00:41:03 ◼ ► you know being able to talk in the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2463">TS</a>]
00:41:04 ◼ ► that you might like on the show I mean I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2464">TS</a>]
00:41:06 ◼ ► know you're not a man whose necessarily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2466">TS</a>]
00:41:07 ◼ ► I don't think you somebody who purchases [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2467">TS</a>]
00:41:09 ◼ ► what you say too much to begin with but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2469">TS</a>]
00:41:12 ◼ ► I mean like is there like as far as time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2472">TS</a>]
00:41:13 ◼ ► and stuff to you talk last year I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2473">TS</a>]
00:41:17 ◼ ► refer the gentleman to your earlier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2477">TS</a>]
00:41:20 ◼ ► songwriting this year and I guess this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2480">TS</a>]
00:41:22 ◼ ► probably came up in the interregnum but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2482">TS</a>]
00:41:24 ◼ ► what's the kind of stuff where you go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2484">TS</a>]
00:41:25 ◼ ► like that's gonna just have to be okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2485">TS</a>]
00:41:27 ◼ ► for me to not do this particular thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2487">TS</a>]
00:41:29 ◼ ► for a while other things like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2489">TS</a>]
00:41:31 ◼ ► well you know this is absolutely going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2491">TS</a>]
00:41:36 ◼ ► um I've had the opportunity to spend the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2496">TS</a>]
00:41:40 ◼ ► first four years of my daughter's life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2500">TS</a>]
00:41:41 ◼ ► kind of a at my leisure with her and now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2501">TS</a>]
00:41:45 ◼ ► i have to do what every parent has to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2505">TS</a>]
00:41:48 ◼ ► which is learn to budget my time better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2508">TS</a>]
00:41:49 ◼ ► and learn to budget my time in such a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2509">TS</a>]
00:41:53 ◼ ► way that the last thing that suffers is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2513">TS</a>]
00:41:56 ◼ ► my daughter and that is going to require [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2516">TS</a>]
00:41:58 ◼ ► a lot of a lot of additional effort and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2518">TS</a>]
00:42:01 ◼ ► thinking on my part to make sure that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2521">TS</a>]
00:42:03 ◼ ► she doesn't see less of me and yet I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2523">TS</a>]
00:42:08 ◼ ► also doing all this new and additional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2528">TS</a>]
00:42:11 ◼ ► work who that you know the work that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2531">TS</a>]
00:42:15 ◼ ► do now is real work it often looks like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2535">TS</a>]
00:42:18 ◼ ► sitting and staring at the wall it also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2538">TS</a>]
00:42:21 ◼ ► often looks like dreaming but that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2541">TS</a>]
00:42:26 ◼ ► the thing about this undertaking is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2546">TS</a>]
00:42:29 ◼ ► the work that I need to do often just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2549">TS</a>]
00:42:31 ◼ ► looks like being there you know it means [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2551">TS</a>]
00:42:34 ◼ ► getting up and getting in the car and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2554">TS</a>]
00:42:37 ◼ ► listen to people takes a lot of time it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2557">TS</a>]
00:42:39 ◼ ► does not become not being silly i mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2559">TS</a>]
00:42:40 ◼ ► making yourself available just 22 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2560">TS</a>]
00:42:46 ◼ ► I mean I I'm just to my own completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2566">TS</a>]
00:42:48 ◼ ► non political experience and just the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2568">TS</a>]
00:42:50 ◼ ► number of people that have my email [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2570">TS</a>]
00:42:51 ◼ ► address and can't one can email me or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2571">TS</a>]
00:42:53 ◼ ► text me like I don't always want to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2573">TS</a>]
00:42:55 ◼ ► to talk to people all the time and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2575">TS</a>]
00:42:56 ◼ ► seems like you're gonna have to have an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2576">TS</a>]
00:42:59 ◼ ► amount of on the one hand access [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2579">TS</a>]
00:43:01 ◼ ► different than probably ever before that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2581">TS</a>]
00:43:04 ◼ ► you welcome and embrace but also that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2584">TS</a>]
00:43:06 ◼ ► there's going to be a lot more stuff i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2586">TS</a>]
00:43:08 ◼ ► mean look at the last couple what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2588">TS</a>]
00:43:09 ◼ ► last week set aside being second easter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2589">TS</a>]
00:43:11 ◼ ► just how many times we have to change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2591">TS</a>]
00:43:12 ◼ ► the scheduling just good stuff that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2592">TS</a>]
00:43:14 ◼ ► that's happened that's it that's going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2594">TS</a>]
00:43:15 ◼ ► to become like a thing you're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2595">TS</a>]
00:43:16 ◼ ► have to like be okay with how often [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2596">TS</a>]
00:43:22 ◼ ► yeah I i do have to and I have to be I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2602">TS</a>]
00:43:25 ◼ ► have to be there in a way but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2605">TS</a>]
00:43:29 ◼ ► it's funny I was doing a photoshoot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2609">TS</a>]
00:43:31 ◼ ► downtown getting some pictures you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2611">TS</a>]
00:43:35 ◼ ► up for the launch and i'm standing on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2615">TS</a>]
00:43:40 ◼ ► the street corner and a group of women [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2620">TS</a>]
00:43:42 ◼ ► comes by and they're like hey you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2622">TS</a>]
00:43:46 ◼ ► and they go what are you doing why you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2626">TS</a>]
00:43:47 ◼ ► standing you're getting your picture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2627">TS</a>]
00:43:48 ◼ ► taken you know they're all their little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2628">TS</a>]
00:43:49 ◼ ► bit older than me they're also women in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2629">TS</a>]
00:43:51 ◼ ► their early fifties and I said guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2631">TS</a>]
00:43:54 ◼ ► what I'm running for City Council and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2634">TS</a>]
00:43:57 ◼ ► fantastic and we stood and we talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2637">TS</a>]
00:44:01 ◼ ► we talked about what they perceive to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2641">TS</a>]
00:44:03 ◼ ► the problems in the city and then they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2643">TS</a>]
00:44:06 ◼ ► were very content to say fantastic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2646">TS</a>]
00:44:10 ◼ ► we are so glad that you're running you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2650">TS</a>]
00:44:13 ◼ ► have our vote and then we all took a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2653">TS</a>]
00:44:14 ◼ ► picture together and then they were like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2654">TS</a>]
00:44:17 ◼ ► goodbye because there's a different way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2657">TS</a>]
00:44:20 ◼ ► of there's a different way that people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2660">TS</a>]
00:44:22 ◼ ► want to talk to a candidate if you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2662">TS</a>]
00:44:25 ◼ ► if I had been like I'm just standing out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2665">TS</a>]
00:44:27 ◼ ► here thinking about some songs and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2667">TS</a>]
00:44:29 ◼ ► talking about some songs they would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2669">TS</a>]
00:44:31 ◼ ► said great let's all what let's stay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2671">TS</a>]
00:44:33 ◼ ► here together for an hour and a half but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2673">TS</a>]
00:44:35 ◼ ► I'm a candidate for political office and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2675">TS</a>]
00:44:37 ◼ ► there's something in that where people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2677">TS</a>]
00:44:38 ◼ ► recognized I mean your most people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2678">TS</a>]
00:44:40 ◼ ► normal people recognize that you go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2680">TS</a>]
00:44:43 ◼ ► great let's get a picture you have our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2683">TS</a>]
00:44:44 ◼ ► votes goodbye and I'm standing there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2684">TS</a>]
00:44:47 ◼ ► having had this wonderful experience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2687">TS</a>]
00:44:50 ◼ ► I'm thinking well this is interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2690">TS</a>]
00:44:51 ◼ ► that was a that's they knew me as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2691">TS</a>]
00:44:54 ◼ ► musician but when i said that i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2694">TS</a>]
00:44:57 ◼ ► running for office all of a sudden we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2697">TS</a>]
00:44:59 ◼ ► had a very different conversation it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2699">TS</a>]
00:45:00 ◼ ► yeah I read about that it's gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2700">TS</a>]
00:45:02 ◼ ► it was very enjoyable to like they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2702">TS</a>]
00:45:05 ◼ ► excited i was running they offered their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2705">TS</a>]
00:45:08 ◼ ► he may be found a new way to make people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2708">TS</a>]
00:45:09 ◼ ► afraid of talking to you well so when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2709">TS</a>]
00:45:12 ◼ ► would love to get a course on that so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2712">TS</a>]
00:45:14 ◼ ► walked down the street about half a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2714">TS</a>]
00:45:16 ◼ ► block and there's another group of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2716">TS</a>]
00:45:18 ◼ ► five people standing there there are a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2718">TS</a>]
00:45:20 ◼ ► couple of families they have a couple of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2720">TS</a>]
00:45:22 ◼ ► little kids and they're like hey uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2722">TS</a>]
00:45:24 ◼ ► you're John Roderick and I go yeah hello [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2724">TS</a>]
00:45:28 ◼ ► and I'm thinking to myself from this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2728">TS</a>]
00:45:29 ◼ ► interesting like ever all the sudden i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2729">TS</a>]
00:45:33 ◼ ► photoshoot and everybody in the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2733">TS</a>]
00:45:35 ◼ ► knows who I am what but it's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2735">TS</a>]
00:45:37 ◼ ► unusual right to see somebody standing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2737">TS</a>]
00:45:39 ◼ ► there getting their picture taken on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2739">TS</a>]
00:45:43 ◼ ► and so this group of people says hi you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2743">TS</a>]
00:45:44 ◼ ► know what are you doing and I say oh I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2744">TS</a>]
00:45:47 ◼ ► running for public office and they said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2747">TS</a>]
00:45:48 ◼ ► we just overheard you talking to those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2748">TS</a>]
00:45:50 ◼ ► people and we wondered if that was what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2750">TS</a>]
00:45:51 ◼ ► it was and I said yes I'm running for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2751">TS</a>]
00:45:54 ◼ ► City Council we talked for a few minutes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2754">TS</a>]
00:45:57 ◼ ► they told me what they thought needed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2757">TS</a>]
00:46:01 ◼ ► happen in the city and they said we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2761">TS</a>]
00:46:03 ◼ ► so excited for you you have our vote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2763">TS</a>]
00:46:07 ◼ ► goodbye and I was like what is this this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2767">TS</a>]
00:46:12 ◼ ► is a very different as soon as your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2772">TS</a>]
00:46:15 ◼ ► differently so it is about being there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2775">TS</a>]
00:46:18 ◼ ► it's about talking to people but also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2778">TS</a>]
00:46:20 ◼ ► it's a completely different conversation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2780">TS</a>]
00:46:23 ◼ ► than the way people want to talk to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2783">TS</a>]
00:46:27 ◼ ► Wow and so it's so you know quite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2787">TS</a>]
00:46:33 ◼ ► candidly I was energized by both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2793">TS</a>]
00:46:36 ◼ ► exchanges and and that was exciting to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2796">TS</a>]
00:46:40 ◼ ► me now i know that running for public [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2800">TS</a>]
00:46:43 ◼ ► office there's gonna be somebody that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2803">TS</a>]
00:46:44 ◼ ► wants to talk to me about chemtrails for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2804">TS</a>]
00:46:46 ◼ ► an hour and a half but little do they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2806">TS</a>]
00:46:49 ◼ ► know that i am an expert on chemtrails [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2809">TS</a>]
00:46:51 ◼ ► but also you might you might want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2811">TS</a>]
00:46:53 ◼ ► have a blue ribbon panel but here's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2813">TS</a>]
00:46:54 ◼ ► thing i am i'm gonna i'm gonna have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2814">TS</a>]
00:46:58 ◼ ► campaign manager who's standing next to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2818">TS</a>]
00:46:59 ◼ ► me with some kind of a large phone and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2819">TS</a>]
00:47:05 ◼ ► that camp and i already have this person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2825">TS</a>]
00:47:07 ◼ ► my campaign manager already is a person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2827">TS</a>]
00:47:11 ◼ ► Wow see that was that smart staffing mhm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2831">TS</a>]
00:47:13 ◼ ► and this campaign manager it is good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2833">TS</a>]
00:47:15 ◼ ► question do you have a large phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2835">TS</a>]
00:47:16 ◼ ► yes a large fuckin I see it can IC you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2836">TS</a>]
00:47:19 ◼ ► operate and but but then the person the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2839">TS</a>]
00:47:22 ◼ ► person is gonna come up and say what I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2842">TS</a>]
00:47:24 ◼ ► going to do about chemtrails and mine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2844">TS</a>]
00:47:26 ◼ ► and of course I'm gonna go let me tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2846">TS</a>]
00:47:28 ◼ ► you about my policy about chemtrails and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2848">TS</a>]
00:47:32 ◼ ► my campaign manager with my with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2852">TS</a>]
00:47:34 ◼ ► large phone is going to lean in and i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2854">TS</a>]
00:47:36 ◼ ► going to say mr. Roderick we have to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2856">TS</a>]
00:47:38 ◼ ► and I'm gonna go you don't want I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2858">TS</a>]
00:47:40 ◼ ► want I want to engage you on chemtrails [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2860">TS</a>]
00:47:42 ◼ ► I really do but we're going to table [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2862">TS</a>]
00:47:44 ◼ ► this until I see you next and i will not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2864">TS</a>]
00:47:48 ◼ ► yeah but also i will be able to get away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2868">TS</a>]
00:47:51 ◼ ► because i have somebody whose job it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2871">TS</a>]
00:47:56 ◼ ► even with a year about the even when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2876">TS</a>]
00:48:01 ◼ ► they're under a different kind of hat so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2881">TS</a>]
00:48:04 ◼ ► anyway so that is good you know my life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2884">TS</a>]
00:48:07 ◼ ► was my life is going to change it really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2887">TS</a>]
00:48:09 ◼ ► is and a lot of it is going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2889">TS</a>]
00:48:10 ◼ ► availability to people accessibility but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2890">TS</a>]
00:48:13 ◼ ► you know there's another thing which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2893">TS</a>]
00:48:15 ◼ ► I realized as going into this I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2895">TS</a>]
00:48:19 ◼ ► want to run against the other people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2899">TS</a>]
00:48:23 ◼ ► it sounds like what you described I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2903">TS</a>]
00:48:25 ◼ ► private i guess but you sound like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2905">TS</a>]
00:48:27 ◼ ► have a lot of respect for the people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2907">TS</a>]
00:48:28 ◼ ► were running i have absolutely nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2908">TS</a>]
00:48:30 ◼ ► against my opponents I think anybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2910">TS</a>]
00:48:33 ◼ ► that wants to having just even entered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2913">TS</a>]
00:48:35 ◼ ► into the process as much as I have I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2915">TS</a>]
00:48:37 ◼ ► have tremendous respect for anybody that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2917">TS</a>]
00:48:39 ◼ ► runs for office it is excruciatingly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2919">TS</a>]
00:48:41 ◼ ► difficult and it really is sacrifice you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2921">TS</a>]
00:48:44 ◼ ► know it when we talk about we think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2924">TS</a>]
00:48:46 ◼ ► people for their service who have served [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2926">TS</a>]
00:48:49 ◼ ► in the military i heard they don't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2929">TS</a>]
00:48:51 ◼ ► that I interesting that you know they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2931">TS</a>]
00:48:54 ◼ ► they think they think each other for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2934">TS</a>]
00:48:57 ◼ ► uh-huh it thinking somebody for their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2937">TS</a>]
00:48:59 ◼ ► service where it feels gratuitous or it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2939">TS</a>]
00:49:01 ◼ ► feels like it's some kind of way to pat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2941">TS</a>]
00:49:04 ◼ ► yourself was like me talking to Ramona [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2944">TS</a>]
00:49:06 ◼ ► in the last day of the cruise it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2946">TS</a>]
00:49:07 ◼ ► little condescending right you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2947">TS</a>]
00:49:09 ◼ ► want to condescend to somebody who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2949">TS</a>]
00:49:10 ◼ ► actually has who has done some heart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2950">TS</a>]
00:49:13 ◼ ► literally risk their life for several [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2953">TS</a>]
00:49:15 ◼ ► years and then you get to be you get to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2955">TS</a>]
00:49:17 ◼ ► congratulate yourself because you thank [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2957">TS</a>]
00:49:19 ◼ ► them for their service great they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2959">TS</a>]
00:49:21 ◼ ► smell that I think but the reality is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2961">TS</a>]
00:49:24 ◼ ► that public service takes a lot of forms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2964">TS</a>]
00:49:26 ◼ ► and one of those forms is engaging in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2966">TS</a>]
00:49:28 ◼ ► your is participating in your government [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2968">TS</a>]
00:49:30 ◼ ► so I don't want to die I don't have no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2970">TS</a>]
00:49:33 ◼ ► desire to run for this office by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2973">TS</a>]
00:49:36 ◼ ► denigrating my opponents or by a by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2976">TS</a>]
00:49:41 ◼ ► saying you sir are no Jack Kennedy or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2981">TS</a>]
00:49:43 ◼ ► whatever maybe what I mean I'm you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2983">TS</a>]
00:49:47 ◼ ► haven't asked if you want some help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2987">TS</a>]
00:49:48 ◼ ► coming up with singers like that I'd be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2988">TS</a>]
00:49:49 ◼ ► happy to write well you know what i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2989">TS</a>]
00:49:51 ◼ ► i have lloyd bentsen on my speed dial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2991">TS</a>]
00:49:58 ◼ ► and so in the end of the fact is i do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/2998">TS</a>]
00:50:00 ◼ ► not know at some point in this election [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3000">TS</a>]
00:50:03 ◼ ► and I'm absolutely sure it will happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3003">TS</a>]
00:50:04 ◼ ► that somebody will say something really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3004">TS</a>]
00:50:09 ◼ ► no I think it's something i don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3009">TS</a>]
00:50:10 ◼ ► it's gonna happen i think well you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3010">TS</a>]
00:50:12 ◼ ► it's hard to know it depends really its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3012">TS</a>]
00:50:13 ◼ ► early days it's early and it probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3013">TS</a>]
00:50:15 ◼ ► won't happen tomorrow but somewhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3015">TS</a>]
00:50:17 ◼ ► along the line I do everything right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3017">TS</a>]
00:50:20 ◼ ► cha but somebody's gonna take a shot at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3020">TS</a>]
00:50:22 ◼ ► me and of course as you know those of us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3022">TS</a>]
00:50:25 ◼ ► who spend all our time on the internet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3025">TS</a>]
00:50:26 ◼ ► we do not want people to yell at us a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3026">TS</a>]
00:50:30 ◼ ► and part of this job is putting yourself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3030">TS</a>]
00:50:38 ◼ ► affording people the opportunity if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3038">TS</a>]
00:50:41 ◼ ► here you are I would go further than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3041">TS</a>]
00:50:42 ◼ ► that it's part of your job to take out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3042">TS</a>]
00:50:45 ◼ ► that's right it's it's it's not optional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3045">TS</a>]
00:50:47 ◼ ► right and so that is that will require a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3047">TS</a>]
00:50:51 ◼ ► kind of a well you know what ultimately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3051">TS</a>]
00:50:54 ◼ ► i think a kind of humility and as you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3054">TS</a>]
00:50:58 ◼ ► know I've been trying to learn and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3058">TS</a>]
00:51:03 ◼ ► embrace humility for a long time and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3063">TS</a>]
00:51:08 ◼ ► even gearing up this much to run for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3068">TS</a>]
00:51:10 ◼ ► office like the humility opportunities [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3070">TS</a>]
00:51:15 ◼ ► come every day on a big platter and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3075">TS</a>]
00:51:22 ◼ ► arrogance its it's here it's a gross to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3082">TS</a>]
00:51:28 ◼ ► a service or a gross miss apprehension [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3088">TS</a>]
00:51:30 ◼ ► and I really do feel like the humility [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3090">TS</a>]
00:51:36 ◼ ► of standing there and letting people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3096">TS</a>]
00:51:38 ◼ ► take shots at you and and then and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3098">TS</a>]
00:51:44 ◼ ► and you keep standing and you keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3104">TS</a>]
00:51:45 ◼ ► talking about what you think matters is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3105">TS</a>]
00:51:48 ◼ ► something that I I've been practicing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3108">TS</a>]
00:51:51 ◼ ► for it for a long time and you know i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3111">TS</a>]
00:51:53 ◼ ► don't think anybody looks forward to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3113">TS</a>]
00:51:56 ◼ ► but it's really going to change it for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3116">TS</a>]
00:51:58 ◼ ► me and particularly you know I mean I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3118">TS</a>]
00:52:01 ◼ ► have a kid I don't want she can't read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3121">TS</a>]
00:52:03 ◼ ► the newspapers yet but one day she will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3123">TS</a>]
00:52:06 ◼ ► she'll be sitting in the library stacks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3126">TS</a>]
00:52:08 ◼ ► looking at a microfiche uh-huh and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3128">TS</a>]
00:52:11 ◼ ► she'll be reading the newspaper accounts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3131">TS</a>]
00:52:12 ◼ ► on her microfiche because even though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3132">TS</a>]
00:52:15 ◼ ► the internet is going to transform urban [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3135">TS</a>]
00:52:18 ◼ ► yes still students will read microfiche [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3138">TS</a>]
00:52:20 ◼ ► absolutely it's part of the core [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3140">TS</a>]
00:52:21 ◼ ► curriculum that father what did you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3141">TS</a>]
00:52:24 ◼ ► yeah and she'll be there looking at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3144">TS</a>]
00:52:26 ◼ ► microfiche and there will be some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3146">TS</a>]
00:52:27 ◼ ► newspaper article where somebody says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3147">TS</a>]
00:52:29 ◼ ► have I have you ever really listened to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3149">TS</a>]
00:52:35 ◼ ► the supertrain episode of their podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3155">TS</a>]
00:52:40 ◼ ► haha that's that that's a romp that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3160">TS</a>]
00:52:43 ◼ ► one's that one's I think that one's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3163">TS</a>]
00:52:45 ◼ ► actually that would bring a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3165">TS</a>]
00:52:46 ◼ ► people into your big tension if I could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3166">TS</a>]
00:52:48 ◼ ► you think so yeah oh yeah that's not I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3168">TS</a>]
00:52:50 ◼ ► not gonna I'm not gonna help that i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3170">TS</a>]
00:52:51 ◼ ► not gonna help the competition by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3171">TS</a>]
00:52:52 ◼ ► picking out upset but you did you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3172">TS</a>]
00:52:54 ◼ ► it will bring all the boys to the yard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3174">TS</a>]
00:52:57 ◼ ► mm ah but you this is gonna be your job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3177">TS</a>]
00:53:02 ◼ ► yeah right i mean let's be clear here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3182">TS</a>]
00:53:05 ◼ ► you need to campaign for are the primary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3185">TS</a>]
00:53:08 ◼ ► and then if and when you succeed that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3188">TS</a>]
00:53:11 ◼ ► you go onto the election where this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3191">TS</a>]
00:53:14 ◼ ► going to be your job at least through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3194">TS</a>]
00:53:16 ◼ ► yeah right and and that and they'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3196">TS</a>]
00:53:18 ◼ ► here's the worst part we haven't talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3198">TS</a>]
00:53:19 ◼ ► about this up fundraising yeah yeah yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3199">TS</a>]
00:53:24 ◼ ► the whole game is is asking people for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3204">TS</a>]
00:53:27 ◼ ► money thing that we all hate to do right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3207">TS</a>]
00:53:29 ◼ ► and so asking people for money is and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3209">TS</a>]
00:53:34 ◼ ► the thing is asking them for money and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3214">TS</a>]
00:53:35 ◼ ► then they go okay with what we sure will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3215">TS</a>]
00:53:38 ◼ ► support you and then you ask them again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3218">TS</a>]
00:53:41 ◼ ► hey remember when you said you supported [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3221">TS</a>]
00:53:43 ◼ ► me we will give me that money and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3223">TS</a>]
00:53:44 ◼ ► they're like okay we sure will thanks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3224">TS</a>]
00:53:45 ◼ ► for calling again and then you look and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3225">TS</a>]
00:53:48 ◼ ► you see that they didn't give you the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3228">TS</a>]
00:53:49 ◼ ► money and then you call him again you go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3229">TS</a>]
00:53:50 ◼ ► hey just me calling to check in like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3230">TS</a>]
00:53:52 ◼ ► it's the worst and you do that until [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3232">TS</a>]
00:53:56 ◼ ► they either give you money or they say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3236">TS</a>]
00:53:58 ◼ ► listen don't ever call here again and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3238">TS</a>]
00:54:00 ◼ ► even then I think you have to call them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3240">TS</a>]
00:54:02 ◼ ► against AI know that you told me not to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3242">TS</a>]
00:54:04 ◼ ► do this but the so the advantage is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3244">TS</a>]
00:54:09 ◼ ► elections work the maximum amount that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3249">TS</a>]
00:54:12 ◼ ► anybody can donate to use seven hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3252">TS</a>]
00:54:14 ◼ ► dollars so there is at least a ceiling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3254">TS</a>]
00:54:19 ◼ ► where if somebody has given you seven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3259">TS</a>]
00:54:21 ◼ ► hundred dollars you just can't take any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3261">TS</a>]
00:54:23 ◼ ► compile and make the whole soccer team [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3263">TS</a>]
00:54:25 ◼ ► give you money or something like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3265">TS</a>]
00:54:26 ◼ ► well there are a lot of ethics rules [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3266">TS</a>]
00:54:28 ◼ ► about that if it ever if everybody that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3268">TS</a>]
00:54:31 ◼ ► works for paul allen gives you seven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3271">TS</a>]
00:54:32 ◼ ► hundred dollars the ethics committee is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3272">TS</a>]
00:54:34 ◼ ► going to is going to take some of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3274">TS</a>]
00:54:35 ◼ ► people aside and say Colin make you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3275">TS</a>]
00:54:39 ◼ ► this and if they say yeah he kind of did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3279">TS</a>]
00:54:41 ◼ ► then that's our that's a super violation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3281">TS</a>]
00:54:44 ◼ ► of this is gonna be so crazy right it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3284">TS</a>]
00:54:47 ◼ ► gnarly anything so many times you seven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3287">TS</a>]
00:54:49 ◼ ► hundred dollars and then they then they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3289">TS</a>]
00:54:55 ◼ ► candlestick and they say here's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3295">TS</a>]
00:54:57 ◼ ► candlestick use it for your election the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3297">TS</a>]
00:54:59 ◼ ► value of that candlestick has to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3299">TS</a>]
00:55:02 ◼ ► computed into the amount they have given [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3302">TS</a>]
00:55:06 ◼ ► you and if they've already given you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3306">TS</a>]
00:55:07 ◼ ► seven dollars they can't give you the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3307">TS</a>]
00:55:09 ◼ ► candlestick you have to give it back all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3309">TS</a>]
00:55:10 ◼ ► you love candlesticks like 910 and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3310">TS</a>]
00:55:13 ◼ ► thing is if you're running a campaign of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3313">TS</a>]
00:55:14 ◼ ► course you want a big table and you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3314">TS</a>]
00:55:16 ◼ ► some candlesticks on it and that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3316">TS</a>]
00:55:18 ◼ ► huge differentiator there was AI episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3318">TS</a>]
00:55:20 ◼ ► of fresh air the other day which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3320">TS</a>]
00:55:21 ◼ ► where I learned everything and i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3321">TS</a>]
00:55:26 ◼ ► it was i was on a mission to remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3326">TS</a>]
00:55:27 ◼ ► right it was a David being cruelly in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3327">TS</a>]
00:55:29 ◼ ► for dave davies in for terry gross haha [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3329">TS</a>]
00:55:31 ◼ ► was apparently away and now that was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3331">TS</a>]
00:55:35 ◼ ► great interview with this woman let me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3335">TS</a>]
00:55:37 ◼ ► get her name judge to bail cop and she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3337">TS</a>]
00:55:39 ◼ ► was the former I think she's the Chief [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3339">TS</a>]
00:55:42 ◼ ► Justice of Alabama and was intimated you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3342">TS</a>]
00:55:47 ◼ ► interview because now that she's out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3347">TS</a>]
00:55:48 ◼ ► office she's advocating strongly for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3348">TS</a>]
00:55:51 ◼ ► idea that judges should not be elected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3351">TS</a>]
00:55:54 ◼ ► positions that it's very unusual like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3354">TS</a>]
00:55:56 ◼ ► internationally there are not that many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3356">TS</a>]
00:55:58 ◼ ► good first world countries where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3358">TS</a>]
00:55:59 ◼ ► elect judges and that the whole idea of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3359">TS</a>]
00:56:01 ◼ ► like having to do elections is such as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3361">TS</a>]
00:56:05 ◼ ► judge and having to see people come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3365">TS</a>]
00:56:06 ◼ ► before you right now that how insanely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3366">TS</a>]
00:56:09 ◼ ► I mean that angle is interesting but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3369">TS</a>]
00:56:11 ◼ ► way she handles it she's really honest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3371">TS</a>]
00:56:13 ◼ ► about it and talks is really and I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3373">TS</a>]
00:56:14 ◼ ► like I have no way of knowing but I felt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3374">TS</a>]
00:56:16 ◼ ► like she was very honest about talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3376">TS</a>]
00:56:18 ◼ ► to you feel her discomfort about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3378">TS</a>]
00:56:20 ◼ ► basic process where she had to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3380">TS</a>]
00:56:23 ◼ ► and and like get up to the point of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3383">TS</a>]
00:56:25 ◼ ► asking for money and basically say can I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3385">TS</a>]
00:56:27 ◼ ► have my finance person contact you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3387">TS</a>]
00:56:28 ◼ ► the thing is and what she's exactly as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3388">TS</a>]
00:56:31 ◼ ► clear she's about that and the pain of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3391">TS</a>]
00:56:32 ◼ ► that she's exactly as clear saying i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3392">TS</a>]
00:56:33 ◼ ► could not have been elected if I hadn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3393">TS</a>]
00:56:35 ◼ ► yeah yeah yeah it's in everything that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3395">TS</a>]
00:56:37 ◼ ► she did was ethical she didn't do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3397">TS</a>]
00:56:39 ◼ ► anything wrong nobody was nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3399">TS</a>]
00:56:40 ◼ ► anybody anything wrong except that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3400">TS</a>]
00:56:42 ◼ ► institution of what makes those kinds of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3402">TS</a>]
00:56:44 ◼ ► things legal is is difficult for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3404">TS</a>]
00:56:46 ◼ ► everybody it is and the problem with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3406">TS</a>]
00:56:48 ◼ ► is that somebody gives you a some money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3408">TS</a>]
00:56:50 ◼ ► and then there is just inherent in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3410">TS</a>]
00:56:54 ◼ ► a lot of expectation when I gave you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3414">TS</a>]
00:56:56 ◼ ► that money and somebody like me i have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3416">TS</a>]
00:56:59 ◼ ► tremendous advantage which is that I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3419">TS</a>]
00:57:01 ◼ ► not beholden to anybody right I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3421">TS</a>]
00:57:04 ◼ ► come up out of the union's I didn't come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3424">TS</a>]
00:57:07 ◼ ► up out of the prosecutor's office right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3427">TS</a>]
00:57:09 ◼ ► i am a completely free agent who also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3429">TS</a>]
00:57:13 ◼ ► like knows every nook and cranny of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3433">TS</a>]
00:57:15 ◼ ► Seattle and so I go into this able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3435">TS</a>]
00:57:19 ◼ ► say i am i'm clean and I'm also like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3439">TS</a>]
00:57:25 ◼ ► have a have a moral compass I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3445">TS</a>]
00:57:27 ◼ ► liable to a to have somebody sidle up to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3447">TS</a>]
00:57:32 ◼ ► me and hand me a briefcase and somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3452">TS</a>]
00:57:34 ◼ ► just gives you a candle get write it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3454">TS</a>]
00:57:36 ◼ ► well there's only free to get back to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3456">TS</a>]
00:57:38 ◼ ► on that if you need me know I i went and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3458">TS</a>]
00:57:40 ◼ ► had a long meeting with the with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3460">TS</a>]
00:57:42 ◼ ► Seattle elections ethics office where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3462">TS</a>]
00:57:46 ◼ ► all of that was it was talked about and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3466">TS</a>]
00:57:49 ◼ ► there are really clear rules for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3469">TS</a>]
00:57:51 ◼ ► everything you know but they aren't they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3471">TS</a>]
00:57:53 ◼ ► are clear they're not and I was no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3473">TS</a>]
00:57:55 ◼ ► they're not good and if you take money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3475">TS</a>]
00:57:56 ◼ ► from somebody you need to have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3476">TS</a>]
00:57:58 ◼ ► their name and address and phone number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3478">TS</a>]
00:58:00 ◼ ► two I mean you can't just if somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3480">TS</a>]
00:58:02 ◼ ► walks up and says here seven hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3482">TS</a>]
00:58:03 ◼ ► dollars in a paper bag good luck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3483">TS</a>]
00:58:05 ◼ ► you have to hand it back to them you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3485">TS</a>]
00:58:08 ◼ ► have to say you need to fill out a form [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3488">TS</a>]
00:58:10 ◼ ► right that allows us to know that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3490">TS</a>]
00:58:12 ◼ ► gave me this money but this becomes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3492">TS</a>]
00:58:13 ◼ ► that's gonna have to be a big part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3493">TS</a>]
00:58:15 ◼ ► what you do for the next few months [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3495">TS</a>]
00:58:17 ◼ ► writing especially first was getting I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3497">TS</a>]
00:58:19 ◼ ► don't know anything about anything but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3499">TS</a>]
00:58:21 ◼ ► only part of it is like getting that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3501">TS</a>]
00:58:22 ◼ ► money from other people show 0 serious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3502">TS</a>]
00:58:26 ◼ ► ok we are early money is like yeast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3506">TS</a>]
00:58:28 ◼ ► right like you start getting that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3508">TS</a>]
00:58:29 ◼ ► then people want to give me more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3509">TS</a>]
00:58:31 ◼ ► it's the way you communicate to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3511">TS</a>]
00:58:35 ◼ ► no journalists and the people who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3515">TS</a>]
00:58:37 ◼ ► watching the race it's the way you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3517">TS</a>]
00:58:38 ◼ ► communicate that you are contender is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3518">TS</a>]
00:58:40 ◼ ► strictly that you have money and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3520">TS</a>]
00:58:43 ◼ ► why you end up with people running for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3523">TS</a>]
00:58:46 ◼ ► office who are already millionaires and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3526">TS</a>]
00:58:48 ◼ ► they just use their own money and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3528">TS</a>]
00:58:50 ◼ ► why we're taking those people seriously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3530">TS</a>]
00:58:51 ◼ ► because they have money and and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3531">TS</a>]
00:58:53 ◼ ► doesn't mean that they are actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3533">TS</a>]
00:58:58 ◼ ► it just means that they start out with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3538">TS</a>]
00:59:00 ◼ ► the advantage of having the money to run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3540">TS</a>]
00:59:02 ◼ ► a campaign that the advantage that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3542">TS</a>]
00:59:06 ◼ ► have that the other candidates don't is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3546">TS</a>]
00:59:09 ◼ ► that I'm not struggling for name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3549">TS</a>]
00:59:11 ◼ ► recognition and also there's nobody else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3551">TS</a>]
00:59:15 ◼ ► running for City office who lives on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3555">TS</a>]
00:59:21 ◼ ► who and so I've never you know I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3561">TS</a>]
00:59:24 ◼ ► never gone to the internet and ask them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3564">TS</a>]
00:59:26 ◼ ► for anything all i do is give to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3566">TS</a>]
00:59:29 ◼ ► internet you know this about me I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3569">TS</a>]
00:59:31 ◼ ► know that I leave until my eyeballs hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3571">TS</a>]
00:59:36 ◼ ► participate once you did you just open [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3576">TS</a>]
00:59:38 ◼ ► those gates and just all your gifts just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3578">TS</a>]
00:59:40 ◼ ► came flowing out one way one way John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3580">TS</a>]
00:59:41 ◼ ► that's right I said internet here take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3581">TS</a>]
00:59:44 ◼ ► you know I i'm basically the giving tree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3584">TS</a>]
00:59:46 ◼ ► of the internet who didn't get chopped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3586">TS</a>]
00:59:52 ◼ ► yeah he does for others and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3592">TS</a>]
00:59:54 ◼ ► what I've been chopped down but I got up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3594">TS</a>]
01:00:00 ◼ ► those guys are anarchists who know they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3600">TS</a>]
01:00:02 ◼ ► are yesterday number Wamba Wamba Wamba [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3602">TS</a>]
01:00:04 ◼ ► are anarchists they lay our collective [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3604">TS</a>]
01:00:06 ◼ ► an anarchist collective I'm gonna go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3606">TS</a>]
01:00:08 ◼ ► read up on this I remember Peter Garrett [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3608">TS</a>]
01:00:10 ◼ ► Peter Garrett was one of the government [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3610">TS</a>]
01:00:12 ◼ ► oil right didn't he actually did he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3612">TS</a>]
01:00:14 ◼ ► actually win in his election give it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3614">TS</a>]
01:00:18 ◼ ► wow he did when he was a very effective [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3618">TS</a>]
01:00:24 ◼ ► he said he's an extraordinary man and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3624">TS</a>]
01:00:26 ◼ ► think i think in Australian he's hot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3626">TS</a>]
01:00:28 ◼ ► held in fairly high regard they have an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3628">TS</a>]
01:00:30 ◼ ► unusual I've seen remember reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3630">TS</a>]
01:00:32 ◼ ► overhearing one another all guys running [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3632">TS</a>]
01:00:33 ◼ ► for office they have don't they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3633">TS</a>]
01:00:35 ◼ ► kind of a wackadoodle with all respect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3635">TS</a>]
01:00:36 ◼ ► to our fuzzy friends the kind of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3636">TS</a>]
01:00:38 ◼ ► wackadoodle way of doing national [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3638">TS</a>]
01:00:40 ◼ ► elections where it's I guess someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3640">TS</a>]
01:00:43 ◼ ► electoral in nature or something where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3643">TS</a>]
01:00:45 ◼ ► like an outsider can can actually have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3645">TS</a>]
01:00:46 ◼ ► chance or something like that i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3646">TS</a>]
01:00:47 ◼ ► know i don't know it's been interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3647">TS</a>]
01:00:48 ◼ ► my understanding about Australian [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3648">TS</a>]
01:00:50 ◼ ► elections is that they put a marble in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3650">TS</a>]
01:00:52 ◼ ► conch shell and then they put the conch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3652">TS</a>]
01:00:55 ◼ ► shell at the bottom of a reef who and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3655">TS</a>]
01:00:57 ◼ ► that it's out of pillar at the bottom of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3657">TS</a>]
01:00:59 ◼ ► a reef they don't say which reef and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3659">TS</a>]
01:01:01 ◼ ► they get half a map to give each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3661">TS</a>]
01:01:03 ◼ ► candidate a knife and let them and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3663">TS</a>]
01:01:05 ◼ ► have to carry the knife in their mouth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3665">TS</a>]
01:01:06 ◼ ► yeah and then they ask you is that a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3666">TS</a>]
01:01:08 ◼ ► knife and then you have to answer as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3668">TS</a>]
01:01:10 ◼ ► dog that's your makeup that's not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3670">TS</a>]
01:01:13 ◼ ► solenoid oh do ya I think they do things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3673">TS</a>]
01:01:18 ◼ ► very differently there and I think in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3678">TS</a>]
01:01:21 ◼ ► New Zealand right don't you just you go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3681">TS</a>]
01:01:23 ◼ ► to the top of a volcano and throw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3683">TS</a>]
01:01:24 ◼ ► somebody in and the and the family is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3684">TS</a>]
01:01:27 ◼ ► something like that name but they scream [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3687">TS</a>]
01:01:29 ◼ ► on their way down there may be answers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3689">TS</a>]
01:01:31 ◼ ► that you not confuse it with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3691">TS</a>]
01:01:32 ◼ ► Australian Way of doing elections [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3692">TS</a>]
01:01:34 ◼ ► they're very sensitive about that let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3694">TS</a>]
01:01:37 ◼ ► yeah about the Kiwis versus the also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3697">TS</a>]
01:01:40 ◼ ► what he's gonna miss when you get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3700">TS</a>]
01:01:41 ◼ ► minute here again I mean like you you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3701">TS</a>]
01:01:42 ◼ ► gotta miss let's be honest you're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3702">TS</a>]
01:01:43 ◼ ► I'm guessing you're gonna miss like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3703">TS</a>]
01:01:46 ◼ ► having your time be your own such as it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3706">TS</a>]
01:01:48 ◼ ► has been that that's got to be one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3708">TS</a>]
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01:01:58 ◼ ► something and you cannot take a step [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3718">TS</a>]
01:02:02 ◼ ► forward if you are consumed with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3722">TS</a>]
01:02:04 ◼ ► thinking about what you're going to miss [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3724">TS</a>]
01:02:05 ◼ ► like what I don't know about what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3725">TS</a>]
01:02:09 ◼ ► future holds about what my life is going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3729">TS</a>]
01:02:13 ◼ ► don't know anything about what is going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3733">TS</a>]
01:02:15 ◼ ► to happen next and that's thrilling and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3735">TS</a>]
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01:02:23 ◼ ► will you know when when before my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3743">TS</a>]
01:02:26 ◼ ► daughter was born a lot of people said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3746">TS</a>]
01:02:27 ◼ ► aren't you gonna miss your freedom and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3747">TS</a>]
01:02:33 ◼ ► said well you know I've had a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3753">TS</a>]
01:02:36 ◼ ► I've been to a lot of plays and dance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3756">TS</a>]
01:02:42 ◼ ► recitals and bars and rock shows and in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3762">TS</a>]
01:02:45 ◼ ► fact for many years I would go to three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3765">TS</a>]
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01:02:52 ◼ ► marrow out of life who once my daughter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3772">TS</a>]
01:02:56 ◼ ► was born I realized that whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3776">TS</a>]
01:02:59 ◼ ► whatever I no longer could do because of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3779">TS</a>]
01:03:03 ◼ ► my daughter what that did not feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3783">TS</a>]
01:03:07 ◼ ► a sacrifice at all right I couldn't go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3787">TS</a>]
01:03:10 ◼ ► out and see rock shows anymore because i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3790">TS</a>]
01:03:12 ◼ ► was at home with my beautiful daughter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3792">TS</a>]
01:03:15 ◼ ► who you know looking into her eyes is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3795">TS</a>]
01:03:19 ◼ ► like a kind of drug that i never knew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3799">TS</a>]
01:03:21 ◼ ► existed and so I don't I mean only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3801">TS</a>]
01:03:25 ◼ ► somebody that doesn't have a kid would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3805">TS</a>]
01:03:27 ◼ ► ask you aren't you worried about losing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3807">TS</a>]
01:03:29 ◼ ► your freedom because when you're when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3809">TS</a>]
01:03:33 ◼ ► voluntarily and you say farewell to to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3813">TS</a>]
01:03:38 ◼ ► you my freedom I mean hopefully you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3818">TS</a>]
01:03:41 ◼ ► at least i did i said i do not need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3821">TS</a>]
01:03:44 ◼ ► go to see spoon tonight although I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3824">TS</a>]
01:03:48 ◼ ► to because i'm here with my daughter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3828">TS</a>]
01:03:50 ◼ ► which is something I want to do more and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3830">TS</a>]
01:03:53 ◼ ► so in looking at my myfuturelife a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3833">TS</a>]
01:03:58 ◼ ► running for office first which is a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3838">TS</a>]
01:04:01 ◼ ► different job from holding office second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3841">TS</a>]
01:04:10 ◼ ► that the sacrifice of giving up my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3850">TS</a>]
01:04:14 ◼ ► ability to go down to portland this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3854">TS</a>]
01:04:17 ◼ ► afternoon because I want to talk to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3857">TS</a>]
01:04:19 ◼ ► somebody about a hamburger and then once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3859">TS</a>]
01:04:23 ◼ ► I'm down there maybe I'll you know do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3863">TS</a>]
01:04:26 ◼ ► like jump up at their show and play [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3866">TS</a>]
01:04:27 ◼ ► guitar solo like losing the ability to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3867">TS</a>]
01:04:31 ◼ ► do that because I have to hear I hear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3871">TS</a>]
01:04:35 ◼ ► that you have to be here the following [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3875">TS</a>]
01:04:36 ◼ ► morning to hear about how work we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3876">TS</a>]
01:04:39 ◼ ► going to redo our sewer system to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3879">TS</a>]
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01:04:46 ◼ ► that and I and I do expect that I will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3886">TS</a>]
01:04:49 ◼ ► be so invigorated and thrilled by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3889">TS</a>]
01:04:52 ◼ ► opportunity that i won't look at it as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3892">TS</a>]
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01:05:07 ◼ ► life on this planet and thinking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3907">TS</a>]
01:05:09 ◼ ► it in in any terms other them that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3909">TS</a>]
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01:05:22 ◼ ► just come to a doorway one day where I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3922">TS</a>]
01:05:25 ◼ ► go well that's sad it's one door way too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3925">TS</a>]
01:05:28 ◼ ► many I'm not stepping through this one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3928">TS</a>]
01:05:29 ◼ ► I'm just I'm fine here and that doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3929">TS</a>]
01:05:33 ◼ ► feel like it would you know that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3933">TS</a>]
01:05:38 ◼ ► what I've been working toward movement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3938">TS</a>]
01:05:42 ◼ ► and hopefully you know I don't come to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3942">TS</a>]
01:05:44 ◼ ► some doorway and have somebody say like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3944">TS</a>]
01:05:47 ◼ ► well if you step through this doorway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3947">TS</a>]
01:05:48 ◼ ► there's either a lion or a beautiful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3948">TS</a>]
01:05:54 ◼ ► princess in a lady or a tiger which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3954">TS</a>]
01:05:57 ◼ ► it gonna be huh you know is that what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3957">TS</a>]
01:05:59 ◼ ► i'm gonna do is i'm gonna i'm going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3959">TS</a>]
01:06:01 ◼ ► open both doors at the same time because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3961">TS</a>]
01:06:06 ◼ ► yeah this is gonna be a ride you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3966">TS</a>]
01:06:09 ◼ ► what and the thing is like we're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3969">TS</a>]
01:06:11 ◼ ► to talk about some stuff some weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3971">TS</a>]
01:06:13 ◼ ► stuff on here i'm not going to continue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3973">TS</a>]
01:06:15 ◼ ► can't continue to monopolize our mutual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3975">TS</a>]
01:06:21 ◼ ► is that a commitment that's campaign [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3981">TS</a>]
01:06:23 ◼ ► promise what this is my commitment to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3983">TS</a>]
01:06:25 ◼ ► you and I would like I would like if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3985">TS</a>]
01:06:29 ◼ ► will if you will allow us who I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3989">TS</a>]
01:06:31 ◼ ► like to close out this announcement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3991">TS</a>]
01:06:34 ◼ ► podcast with your new thought technology [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/3994">TS</a>]
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01:06:40 ◼ ► say thank you for the opportunity to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/4000">TS</a>]
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01:06:54 ◼ ► I read about this in a book and a recent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/4014">TS</a>]
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01:07:00 ◼ ► internet and printed out a little for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/4020">TS</a>]
01:07:02 ◼ ► new way to cook in China can talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/4022">TS</a>]
01:07:03 ◼ ► this this is this is the in the middle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/4023">TS</a>]
01:07:05 ◼ ► of your portent I can't come out and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/4025">TS</a>]
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01:07:10 ◼ ► is the problem what you're worried that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/4030">TS</a>]
01:07:13 ◼ ► we're gonna lose all the great chicken [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/4033">TS</a>]
01:07:14 ◼ ► recipes because of the great chicken [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/4034">TS</a>]
01:07:16 ◼ ► because suddenly were suddenly were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/4036">TS</a>]
01:07:18 ◼ ► operating on a higher level with well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/4038">TS</a>]
01:07:19 ◼ ► this is special this is a special [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/4039">TS</a>]
01:07:21 ◼ ► yeah i don't know if i want to sell it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/4041">TS</a>]
01:07:22 ◼ ► with my chicken okay well you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/4042">TS</a>]
01:07:24 ◼ ► thing is I want I want I want to give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/4044">TS</a>]
01:07:26 ◼ ► that chicken time to first of all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/4046">TS</a>]
01:07:28 ◼ ► marinate that's a good question if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/4048">TS</a>]
01:07:31 ◼ ► anything I feel like it's too easy of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/4051">TS</a>]
01:07:33 ◼ ► recipe other any other questions do any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/4053">TS</a>]
01:07:35 ◼ ► closing remarks today we'll talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/4055">TS</a>]
01:07:37 ◼ ► the chicken next time but you've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/4057">TS</a>]
01:07:38 ◼ ► this is gonna I just what I guess I this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/4058">TS</a>]
01:07:40 ◼ ► is a good place to to set a few things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/4060">TS</a>]
01:07:42 ◼ ► straight in as much as we can which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/4062">TS</a>]
01:07:44 ◼ ► we're gonna keep doing the show that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/4064">TS</a>]
01:07:45 ◼ ► right that we we hopefully our hopefully [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/4065">TS</a>]
01:07:49 ◼ ► our schedule not become too erratic but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/4069">TS</a>]
01:07:50 ◼ ► that's a little out of our control and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/4070">TS</a>]
01:07:52 ◼ ► it would be bad overcommit that's right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/4072">TS</a>]
01:07:54 ◼ ► but we're going to continue to do this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/4074">TS</a>]
01:07:55 ◼ ► show because that is our commitment not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/4075">TS</a>]
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01:08:06 ◼ ► also Marlon our commitment to one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/4086">TS</a>]
01:08:08 ◼ ► another if it were not for you my friend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/4088">TS</a>]
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01:08:17 ◼ ► and you have you have you have made me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/4097">TS</a>]
01:08:21 ◼ ► more of a you have made me more of an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/4101">TS</a>]
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01:08:28 ◼ ► little pill flavored like a turkey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/4108">TS</a>]
01:08:30 ◼ ► dinner that has enabled this space [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/4110">TS</a>]
01:08:32 ◼ ► program to make this mission to Mars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/4112">TS</a>]
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01:08:38 ◼ ► front of your 55 inches away from your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/4118">TS</a>]
01:08:41 ◼ ► face as you go into death can hurtling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/4121">TS</a>]
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01:08:50 ◼ ► both starts a global thermonuclear war [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/4130">TS</a>]
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01:08:57 ◼ ► winning move is not to plant arrest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/4137">TS</a>]
01:09:01 ◼ ► congratulations welcome my candidacy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/4141">TS</a>]
01:09:04 ◼ ► thank you it's a whoo boy it's gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/4144">TS</a>]
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01:09:15 ◼ ► the website vote Roderick calm down on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/4155">TS</a>]
01:09:18 ◼ ► it it's going to be on the internet vote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/4158">TS</a>]
01:09:19 ◼ ► Roderick calm and I mean basically my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/4159">TS</a>]
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01:09:26 ◼ ► immediately donate the maximum amount of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/4166">TS</a>]
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01:09:32 ◼ ► cannot accept money from the United [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/4172">TS</a>]
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01:09:36 ◼ ► Finland or actually any country other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/4176">TS</a>]
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01:09:48 ◼ ► to all of our own no one problem at a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/4188">TS</a>]
01:09:50 ◼ ► time John one problem at a time but if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/4190">TS</a>]
01:09:52 ◼ ► you do live in America if you live say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/4192">TS</a>]
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01:09:56 ◼ ► Kansas City Missouri URL City New [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOv799I/4196">TS</a>]
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