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Ep. 144: "Gravy Fountain"

 

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00:00:19   hello a John hi Merlin has it going good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/19">TS</a>]

00:00:25   so good I'm so grateful to you for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/25">TS</a>]

00:00:28   sometimes being willing to push all I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/28">TS</a>]

00:00:31   can push you push and and sometimes you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/31">TS</a>]

00:00:34   know there's a part of me that says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/34">TS</a>]

00:00:36   don't don't stay on target [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/36">TS</a>]

00:00:39   mhm stay on target I just want to bring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/39">TS</a>]

00:00:42   out the best in you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/42">TS</a>]

00:00:43   yeah but pushing sometimes helps yeah i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/43">TS</a>]

00:00:47   was on my way in today and you know of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/47">TS</a>]

00:00:49   course i only have an AM radio in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/49">TS</a>]

00:00:51   truck and so I'm listening to the radio [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/51">TS</a>]

00:00:56   station kxi which was my dad's radio [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/56">TS</a>]

00:01:00   station they used to play like a steady [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/60">TS</a>]

00:01:02   diet of just the once we got your Frank [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/62">TS</a>]

00:01:04   Sinatra music yeah just the big bands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/64">TS</a>]

00:01:06   just the blue hair the blue hairs but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/66">TS</a>]

00:01:09   all those people are dead now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/69">TS</a>]

00:01:11   yeah and so the radio station still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/71">TS</a>]

00:01:14   exists and I've seen this before with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/74">TS</a>]

00:01:18   radio radio station sort of play [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/78">TS</a>]

00:01:21   what do they call it the the demographic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/81">TS</a>]

00:01:27   rotation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/87">TS</a>]

00:01:28   mmm yeah radio station called demo well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/88">TS</a>]

00:01:32   but I'm talking about like the music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/92">TS</a>]

00:01:34   that they play on a radio station is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/94">TS</a>]

00:01:36   called the programming programming and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/96">TS</a>]

00:01:40   the programming has switched i'm driving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/100">TS</a>]

00:01:42   in and the djs talking to me and he says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/102">TS</a>]

00:01:44   he says you know there are a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/104">TS</a>]

00:01:46   differences between men and women did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/106">TS</a>]

00:01:49   you know men are more likely to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/109">TS</a>]

00:01:51   colorblind huh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/111">TS</a>]

00:01:54   this is john tesh for kxi radio and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/114">TS</a>]

00:01:58   DJ is John Tesh what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/118">TS</a>]

00:02:01   yeah I was like a day like a franchise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/121">TS</a>]

00:02:04   kinda do know he's these give he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/124">TS</a>]

00:02:06   giving the call signs for pre-k ixi and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/126">TS</a>]

00:02:11   that's why I listen to him for a while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/131">TS</a>]

00:02:13   and he's like Barry Manilow is the music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/133">TS</a>]

00:02:16   of our generation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/136">TS</a>]

00:02:18   it's just I was like what generation is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/138">TS</a>]

00:02:21   he talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/141">TS</a>]

00:02:22   right right like this was the radio [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/142">TS</a>]

00:02:24   station of the of the greatest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/144">TS</a>]

00:02:25   generation who are all gone and so now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/145">TS</a>]

00:02:28   it's been it's been replaced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/148">TS</a>]

00:02:30   they've likes these people have kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/150">TS</a>]

00:02:32   stepped in and taken over and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/152">TS</a>]

00:02:35   not i don't think the baby boomers would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/155">TS</a>]

00:02:38   characterize Barry Manilow as the music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/158">TS</a>]

00:02:40   of their generation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/160">TS</a>]

00:02:42   no I don't think they would I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/162">TS</a>]

00:02:43   think they even if they like Barry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/163">TS</a>]

00:02:45   Manilow I don't think that's the example [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/165">TS</a>]

00:02:47   they were probably right so so who is he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/167">TS</a>]

00:02:50   talking to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/170">TS</a>]

00:02:51   I don't know the radio seems i guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/171">TS</a>]

00:02:53   it's always been a strange thing but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/173">TS</a>]

00:02:55   really it seems so odd now listen mostly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/175">TS</a>]

00:02:58   to public radio or on the radio and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/178">TS</a>]

00:03:01   sometimes will flip over and I first of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/181">TS</a>]

00:03:05   all just the commercials are so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/185">TS</a>]

00:03:06   depressing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/186">TS</a>]

00:03:07   that's it did you get that on your ka ax [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/187">TS</a>]

00:03:11   I question the commercials are going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/191">TS</a>]

00:03:13   be very depressing on kxi because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/193">TS</a>]

00:03:16   they're mostly for like ensure the like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/196">TS</a>]

00:03:23   vitamin enriched oh yeah sure why I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/203">TS</a>]

00:03:27   like I hear a lot of like financial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/207">TS</a>]

00:03:29   desperation and oh right that's it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/209">TS</a>]

00:03:32   that's it that's a pretty big one losing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/212">TS</a>]

00:03:34   your home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/214">TS</a>]

00:03:35   uhm yeah there's all payday loans and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/215">TS</a>]

00:03:38   stuff like that but that's and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/218">TS</a>]

00:03:39   you know typical daytime fair but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/219">TS</a>]

00:03:41   strange I mean I too amazing to think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/221">TS</a>]

00:03:44   how much that industry must have changed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/224">TS</a>]

00:03:45   but we've got a station here that I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/225">TS</a>]

00:03:47   a lot i like a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/227">TS</a>]

00:03:50   it's very funny and for some reason it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/230">TS</a>]

00:03:51   did the entire concept of the station to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/231">TS</a>]

00:03:53   light the lights me you know i got quite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/233">TS</a>]

00:03:55   tower here you have a station called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/235">TS</a>]

00:03:57   Khao IIT 98.5 kiddo I t an FM station [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/237">TS</a>]

00:04:04   whose primary arm claim to fame is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/244">TS</a>]

00:04:08   claims to be the station that everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/248">TS</a>]

00:04:09   can listen to it work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/249">TS</a>]

00:04:11   oh right because it never says anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/251">TS</a>]

00:04:13   your place anything sketchy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/253">TS</a>]

00:04:15   yeah it's all it's all its it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/255">TS</a>]

00:04:17   basically and it's funny is if you're in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/257">TS</a>]

00:04:19   an elevator or a waiting room or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/259">TS</a>]

00:04:21   anywhere where there is a radio playing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/261">TS</a>]

00:04:23   its probably koma relaxing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/263">TS</a>]

00:04:26   yeah I feel like k KX I is the used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/266">TS</a>]

00:04:29   be that for sure you know they would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/269">TS</a>]

00:04:32   maybe they play the lady is a tramp [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/272">TS</a>]

00:04:34   which would be no singed some eyebrows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/274">TS</a>]

00:04:38   selassie but uh but now this this this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/278">TS</a>]

00:04:42   change in programming to reflect the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/282">TS</a>]

00:04:44   musical tastes of a generation I can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/284">TS</a>]

00:04:46   quite put my finger on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/286">TS</a>]

00:04:48   they do play the lady is a tramp but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/288">TS</a>]

00:04:52   it's some later version of us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/292">TS</a>]

00:04:54   oh where it's like hate California it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/294">TS</a>]

00:04:59   cold and it's damn that is it mr. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/299">TS</a>]

00:05:04   Sinatra well no it's a mean that it's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/304">TS</a>]

00:05:07   imitation of him but it's like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/307">TS</a>]

00:05:10   instrumentation is a little bit more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/310">TS</a>]

00:05:12   little bit more good Vegas see tubular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/312">TS</a>]

00:05:17   bells II and and ended some I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/317">TS</a>]

00:05:21   I can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/321">TS</a>]

00:05:22   it's like is there actually a generation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/322">TS</a>]

00:05:24   in between i know there is a generation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/324">TS</a>]

00:05:26   in between the am between the the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/326">TS</a>]

00:05:30   war two generation and the baby boomer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/330">TS</a>]

00:05:32   generation better that that think of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/332">TS</a>]

00:05:33   themselves as a kind of lost or silent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/333">TS</a>]

00:05:36   generation but are they big enough to to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/336">TS</a>]

00:05:39   justify a radio station [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/339">TS</a>]

00:05:41   yeah when you have to imagine that all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/341">TS</a>]

00:05:43   the decision-making that goes into that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/343">TS</a>]

00:05:44   is extremely market-driven and it's been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/344">TS</a>]

00:05:47   particular i mean i don't mean I'm just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/347">TS</a>]

00:05:50   cynical but I i would have to guess that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/350">TS</a>]

00:05:53   the greatest boon for any radio station [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/353">TS</a>]

00:05:55   is to very clearly be able to identify [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/355">TS</a>]

00:05:59   who's listening and I'll say one thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/359">TS</a>]

00:06:02   you know one thing that makes that hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/362">TS</a>]

00:06:04   today is when they do things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/364">TS</a>]

00:06:05   surveys first of all people love surveys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/365">TS</a>]

00:06:08   not only talking about your soul sunday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/368">TS</a>]

00:06:10   are so it serves you right excuse to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/370">TS</a>]

00:06:14   like it so now it's the thing we can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/374">TS</a>]

00:06:15   measure you know but also you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/375">TS</a>]

00:06:18   they're the ones who have home telephone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/378">TS</a>]

00:06:20   lines so when you call they pick up the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/380">TS</a>]

00:06:22   phone and we'll answer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/382">TS</a>]

00:06:23   mhm these kids today they don't do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/383">TS</a>]

00:06:26   you can't call them on their on their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/386">TS</a>]

00:06:29   selfie sticks and I just Instagram on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/389">TS</a>]

00:06:31   her selfie stick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/391">TS</a>]

00:06:32   sender I'm sorry meeting a little bit of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/392">TS</a>]

00:06:35   frozen bacon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/395">TS</a>]

00:06:36   how is it well I didn't realize that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/396">TS</a>]

00:06:38   was going to create such a saucy of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/398">TS</a>]

00:06:41   sound I have these up ten ships [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/401">TS</a>]

00:06:46   we don't usually eat on the program know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/406">TS</a>]

00:06:49   your dirty dirty brand potato chips [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/409">TS</a>]

00:06:51   there that's the brand 30 brand dirty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/411">TS</a>]

00:06:55   with me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/415">TS</a>]

00:06:55   missing quotes more momentum dirty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/415">TS</a>]

00:06:59   I don't know they're pretty bland I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/419">TS</a>]

00:07:01   gotta get this thing Lady and the Tramp [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/421">TS</a>]

00:07:03   em or do you just not equal that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/423">TS</a>]

00:07:06   think that really makes her a tramp just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/426">TS</a>]

00:07:07   because she what is she she eats early [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/427">TS</a>]

00:07:11   yeah she goes two ballgames the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/431">TS</a>]

00:07:13   bleachers are fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/433">TS</a>]

00:07:14   yeah you won't go to Harlem in our minds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/434">TS</a>]

00:07:18   and first right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/438">TS</a>]

00:07:20   right Carl's yeah i don't know i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/440">TS</a>]

00:07:22   it down set that's you know what that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/442">TS</a>]

00:07:24   an early example of someone really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/444">TS</a>]

00:07:28   purposing a slur [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/448">TS</a>]

00:07:32   oh you like a queer thing that's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/452">TS</a>]

00:07:35   early example of somebody saying you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/455">TS</a>]

00:07:36   gonna call me a tramp i'll show you one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/456">TS</a>]

00:07:39   of the trap is that's this is why I'm a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/459">TS</a>]

00:07:40   tramp because i'm going down to struggle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/460">TS</a>]

00:07:43   who think once we get that one version [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/463">TS</a>]

00:07:46   your losses weird at their seams don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/466">TS</a>]

00:07:51   know this is a trend or a mini trend but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/471">TS</a>]

00:07:53   if you seen where some popular pop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/473">TS</a>]

00:07:57   artists re-recording their songs so I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/477">TS</a>]

00:08:02   going so they're out of their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/482">TS</a>]

00:08:03   contractual obligation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/483">TS</a>]

00:08:05   maybe I think even more to the point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/485">TS</a>]

00:08:07   though and the one thing in particular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/487">TS</a>]

00:08:09   can i think i actually get by this jeff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/489">TS</a>]

00:08:12   lynne like meticulously recorded a ton [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/492">TS</a>]

00:08:16   of elo songs really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/496">TS</a>]

00:08:18   mhm and I think I think it's so that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/498">TS</a>]

00:08:21   gets the rights to those songs for those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/501">TS</a>]

00:08:24   kinds of production things like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/504">TS</a>]

00:08:26   he probably his catalogue was probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/506">TS</a>]

00:08:28   owned by whatever epic or whatever a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/508">TS</a>]

00:08:31   long time ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/511">TS</a>]

00:08:32   yeah well it said that's absolutely why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/512">TS</a>]

00:08:33   they re-recorded and then and then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/513">TS</a>]

00:08:38   own the whole you on the recording you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/518">TS</a>]

00:08:40   know every recording has the ownership [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/520">TS</a>]

00:08:42   of every recording has two sides [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/522">TS</a>]

00:08:44   I you know what you've explained this to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/524">TS</a>]

00:08:46   me lots of people have explained to me i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/526">TS</a>]

00:08:48   still find incredibly badly only knows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/528">TS</a>]

00:08:50   the people who write the music and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/530">TS</a>]

00:08:51   on the publishing other ones to make the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/531">TS</a>]

00:08:52   money that's all I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/532">TS</a>]

00:08:53   yeah right but this they they split up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/533">TS</a>]

00:08:55   into two hundred percent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/535">TS</a>]

00:08:57   and-and-and-and literally when you talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/537">TS</a>]

00:09:00   about it seems sustainable good time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/540">TS</a>]

00:09:02   music music publishing you're talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/542">TS</a>]

00:09:04   about two hundred percent there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/544">TS</a>]

00:09:05   hundred percent of the recording and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/545">TS</a>]

00:09:08   there's a hundred percent of the writing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/548">TS</a>]

00:09:10   and uh and you can own the you can own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/550">TS</a>]

00:09:16   the recording and the writer owns the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/556">TS</a>]

00:09:20   song but if the only recording is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/560">TS</a>]

00:09:23   it's the only way the song exists in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/563">TS</a>]

00:09:26   recording [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/566">TS</a>]

00:09:27   oh so that's why something from the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/567">TS</a>]

00:09:31   world record or whatever could be owned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/571">TS</a>]

00:09:34   by owns the epic but I forget whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/574">TS</a>]

00:09:35   it is label was owns the actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/575">TS</a>]

00:09:36   recording that make it used in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/576">TS</a>]

00:09:38   commercial right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/578">TS</a>]

00:09:39   the master i get it and so that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/579">TS</a>]

00:09:42   usually means the producer or the music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/582">TS</a>]

00:09:44   company announced it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/584">TS</a>]

00:09:45   well that's the that's the thing it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/585">TS</a>]

00:09:47   whoever whoever gives you the money to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/587">TS</a>]

00:09:51   record it traditionally or the man ran [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/591">TS</a>]

00:09:56   this race or whoever like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/596">TS</a>]

00:09:58   shouldered his way in there and said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/598">TS</a>]

00:10:00   listen kid if you want to make it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/600">TS</a>]

00:10:01   this business you're gonna give me some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/601">TS</a>]

00:10:03   percentage of your animated a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/603">TS</a>]

00:10:05   that was a lot of those people like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/605">TS</a>]

00:10:06   actually shoulder their way and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/606">TS</a>]

00:10:08   you're gonna give me a percentage of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/608">TS</a>]

00:10:09   songwriting oh yeah but but definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/609">TS</a>]

00:10:13   if the if the label paid for you to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/613">TS</a>]

00:10:15   into the studio then they traditionally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/615">TS</a>]

00:10:17   consider themselves on the master okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/617">TS</a>]

00:10:20   squeezed it squeeze a like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/620">TS</a>]

00:10:25   again it's it's part of the sound of 27 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/625">TS</a>]

00:10:28   yeah it'sit's almost in completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/628">TS</a>]

00:10:30   identical wow yeah I mean that would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/630">TS</a>]

00:10:34   a fun exercise because he's pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/634">TS</a>]

00:10:36   joyless to me but just I mean I from a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/636">TS</a>]

00:10:39   recording standpoint like they're you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/639">TS</a>]

00:10:41   know that i was saying about this the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/641">TS</a>]

00:10:42   other day I was talking to our friend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/642">TS</a>]

00:10:44   joko and recalling that the first real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/644">TS</a>]

00:10:47   professional nerds that I knew were were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/647">TS</a>]

00:10:50   audio nerds and it was before there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/650">TS</a>]

00:10:54   a kind of nerd but they it was before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/654">TS</a>]

00:10:56   nerd was a was a revolution in our minds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/656">TS</a>]

00:10:59   but like audio nerds are just another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/659">TS</a>]

00:11:01   form of nerd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/661">TS</a>]

00:11:02   and are just exactly they they are just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/662">TS</a>]

00:11:06   personality wise and in every other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/666">TS</a>]

00:11:08   respect very similar to computer nerds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/668">TS</a>]

00:11:10   and firm an audio nerd standpoint to sit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/670">TS</a>]

00:11:14   there and try and match exactly the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/674">TS</a>]

00:11:17   sound of a classic album [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/677">TS</a>]

00:11:19   oh my god they just be spewing all over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/679">TS</a>]

00:11:22   themselves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/682">TS</a>]

00:11:23   yeah like that guy from that one band [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/683">TS</a>]

00:11:25   that work with Brian Wilson on smile [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/685">TS</a>]

00:11:29   maybe they did a reconstruction smiles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/689">TS</a>]

00:11:30   that one guy from that pop and his name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/690">TS</a>]

00:11:32   is forget but he worked very closely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/692">TS</a>]

00:11:33   with the the brian wilson people to come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/693">TS</a>]

00:11:36   up with two 'totally recorded version of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/696">TS</a>]

00:11:39   smile as it could've been Wow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/699">TS</a>]

00:11:42   yeah right that that's that does seem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/702">TS</a>]

00:11:44   like that seems like a very fascinating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/704">TS</a>]

00:11:46   thing that's a real murder but the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/706">TS</a>]

00:11:48   is what you know the combination of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/708">TS</a>]

00:11:50   being thinking like almost like a John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/710">TS</a>]

00:11:52   Brian Anderson me like somebody who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/712">TS</a>]

00:11:54   really loves the songs but all enemy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/714">TS</a>]

00:11:56   knows every or like yeah like God like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/716">TS</a>]

00:11:58   Jim on the on the cruise this kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/718">TS</a>]

00:12:00   people who have an ear for like every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/720">TS</a>]

00:12:02   little nook and cranny of a song but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/722">TS</a>]

00:12:04   also then the challenge of trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/724">TS</a>]

00:12:07   make it sound like it was recorded 40 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/727">TS</a>]

00:12:08   years ago must be really enticing it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/728">TS</a>]

00:12:11   it's it's incredible and just in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/731">TS</a>]

00:12:14   sense of like the the audio chain of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/734">TS</a>]

00:12:18   which microphone which preamp which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/738">TS</a>]

00:12:25   compressor which amplifier would Howard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/745">TS</a>]

00:12:28   all those things set and every single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/748">TS</a>]

00:12:30   one of those things if it varies even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/750">TS</a>]

00:12:33   slightly changes the tone and so to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/753">TS</a>]

00:12:36   back and eat first of all you have to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/756">TS</a>]

00:12:38   the research what Mike's were they using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/758">TS</a>]

00:12:41   you know and then go get those mics at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/761">TS</a>]

00:12:45   any at any expense like already it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/765">TS</a>]

00:12:47   exciting and then put those things in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/767">TS</a>]

00:12:50   room and the room is going to change the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/770">TS</a>]

00:12:52   sound so you have to go back to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/772">TS</a>]

00:12:53   original studio [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/773">TS</a>]

00:12:55   I mean oh I'm i can't have and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/775">TS</a>]

00:12:58   turgid with excitement really that would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/778">TS</a>]

00:13:02   appeal to you in just because you would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/782">TS</a>]

00:13:05   do all that you would do everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/785">TS</a>]

00:13:06   right and then you would a be the guitar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/786">TS</a>]

00:13:09   sound right to left and it wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/789">TS</a>]

00:13:11   sound the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/791">TS</a>]

00:13:12   yeah and then you just be like more and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/792">TS</a>]

00:13:14   at that point i would at that point i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/794">TS</a>]

00:13:16   would have nothing more to offer right i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/796">TS</a>]

00:13:18   would have been excited about finding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/798">TS</a>]

00:13:19   the mics in the room and the guitars and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/799">TS</a>]

00:13:21   yeah but then comes the drudgery and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/801">TS</a>]

00:13:23   performances I mean most people's voices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/803">TS</a>]

00:13:25   sound pretty different after 10 or 15 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/805">TS</a>]

00:13:27   years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/807">TS</a>]

00:13:27   yeah well it's 30 years but but again I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/807">TS</a>]

00:13:30   would be engaged in that after the after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/810">TS</a>]

00:13:32   the engineers had gone through and set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/812">TS</a>]

00:13:34   said are you gonna have to notch 4k [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/814">TS</a>]

00:13:36   about to you know bebes no wait a minute [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/816">TS</a>]

00:13:40   wait let's what let's bring that back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/820">TS</a>]

00:13:42   when you know laughter they did all that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/822">TS</a>]

00:13:43   and got the tones then to go back in and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/823">TS</a>]

00:13:46   sit and try and duplicate your vocal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/826">TS</a>]

00:13:48   performance from from 30 years are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/828">TS</a>]

00:13:52   linked two lifetimes and that would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/832">TS</a>]

00:13:53   that would be also very fun you know who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/833">TS</a>]

00:13:56   but that but his this is the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/836">TS</a>]

00:13:59   what this is is an example another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/839">TS</a>]

00:14:02   example I mean I i agree with our I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/842">TS</a>]

00:14:05   understand the the impulse to we record [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/845">TS</a>]

00:14:07   that stuff and take the money back from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/847">TS</a>]

00:14:10   the from the man it's a very it's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/850">TS</a>]

00:14:12   pretty cool especially especially today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/852">TS</a>]

00:14:14   my gosh yeah every Prince like thing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/854">TS</a>]

00:14:16   do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/856">TS</a>]

00:14:17   mhm but it's also another example of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/857">TS</a>]

00:14:21   thing where you are still musician [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/861">TS</a>]

00:14:23   you're in middle age or late middle age [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/863">TS</a>]

00:14:26   and you want to do you want to find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/866">TS</a>]

00:14:29   anything other than to write ten good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/869">TS</a>]

00:14:34   new songs you want to find anything to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/874">TS</a>]

00:14:37   do any kind of busy worker like just as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/877">TS</a>]

00:14:41   a purely artistic distraction yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/881">TS</a>]

00:14:42   you're just like you're moving deck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/882">TS</a>]

00:14:44   chairs around you are stacking andrey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/884">TS</a>]

00:14:47   stacking three-by-five cards of and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/887">TS</a>]

00:14:50   and it's just like I know you know this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/890">TS</a>]

00:14:52   is why all these bands to an album of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/892">TS</a>]

00:14:54   covers over but if you could go and say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/894">TS</a>]

00:14:57   like you know what we really need to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/897">TS</a>]

00:14:59   let's stop work on this new record [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/899">TS</a>]

00:15:00   that's really be doubling US and go back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/900">TS</a>]

00:15:03   and reread meticulously recorded our old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/903">TS</a>]

00:15:05   records just to complete a complete like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/905">TS</a>]

00:15:10   busywork [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/910">TS</a>]

00:15:11   well you know I don't have the numbers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/911">TS</a>]

00:15:13   in front of me but just anecdotally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/913">TS</a>]

00:15:14   today it seems like there's so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/914">TS</a>]

00:15:19   I guess that I guess the stuff that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/919">TS</a>]

00:15:21   know you can sell this stuff that sold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/921">TS</a>]

00:15:23   in the past right so you do the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/923">TS</a>]

00:15:24   remastering do the box that I mean it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/924">TS</a>]

00:15:27   but that's not even that new of a thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/927">TS</a>]

00:15:29   I mean in the nineties it was all about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/929">TS</a>]

00:15:31   the box sets where you got to get all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/931">TS</a>]

00:15:33   the stuff that you already have a vinyl [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/933">TS</a>]

00:15:34   that you know and in CD so to make that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/934">TS</a>]

00:15:36   enticing like for example like the Beach [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/936">TS</a>]

00:15:38   Boys Pet Sounds box is actually really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/938">TS</a>]

00:15:41   good box because there's tons of of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/941">TS</a>]

00:15:43   great you know extra vocals and isolated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/943">TS</a>]

00:15:45   tracks and I i love that now that was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/945">TS</a>]

00:15:47   great christmas present in 1995 or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/947">TS</a>]

00:15:49   whatever but I'm but funny yellow in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/949">TS</a>]

00:15:51   particular I in my years of like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/951">TS</a>]

00:15:55   know spending so many hours in record [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/955">TS</a>]

00:15:57   stores like going through the entire the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/957">TS</a>]

00:15:59   entire store looking at every album make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/959">TS</a>]

00:16:02   I knew the names you know of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/962">TS</a>]

00:16:04   even I never heard them I knew which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/964">TS</a>]

00:16:06   bands do which albums I can't tell which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/966">TS</a>]

00:16:07   ones are popular but even then yellow in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/967">TS</a>]

00:16:09   like the late seventies early eighties [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/969">TS</a>]

00:16:11   mid-eighties especially there were so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/971">TS</a>]

00:16:13   many yellow compilations even then I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/973">TS</a>]

00:16:16   mean they hadn't had like I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/976">TS</a>]

00:16:17   monster hit since probably 1982 yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/977">TS</a>]

00:16:20   everybody was the last big hold on tight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/980">TS</a>]

00:16:22   song maybe like I don't think they had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/982">TS</a>]

00:16:23   that many new songs that was 31 30 years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/983">TS</a>]

00:16:26   ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/986">TS</a>]

00:16:26   yeah it's not amazing well but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/986">TS</a>]

00:16:30   those box sets with all the extra bonus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/990">TS</a>]

00:16:33   tracks and the 25 different versions of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/993">TS</a>]

00:16:35   tax man and so forth I mean those things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/995">TS</a>]

00:16:37   are great they're great for for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/997">TS</a>]

00:16:41   beatles that's that's pretty I mean that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1001">TS</a>]

00:16:43   and he actually hear how different and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1003">TS</a>]

00:16:45   your bird can sing could sound is pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1005">TS</a>]

00:16:47   fascinating of the really amazing song [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1007">TS</a>]

00:16:49   you've heard hundred times it's totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1009">TS</a>]

00:16:51   amazing except that in the itunes era [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1011">TS</a>]

00:16:54   what that we live in now basically i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1014">TS</a>]

00:16:59   find i find that you know that in the CD [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1019">TS</a>]

00:17:03   era where you put that are be like oh my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1023">TS</a>]

00:17:05   god listen to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1025">TS</a>]

00:17:07   I'm it it made sense to me but if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1027">TS</a>]

00:17:11   just rip all that stuff like into itunes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1031">TS</a>]

00:17:14   with no distinction right then you're in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1034">TS</a>]

00:17:18   it in that posture where you're here you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1038">TS</a>]

00:17:21   like you're making dinner and you turn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1041">TS</a>]

00:17:24   on your music and you here in the course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1044">TS</a>]

00:17:26   of an hour for versions of annular can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1046">TS</a>]

00:17:28   sing all of them slightly different or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1048">TS</a>]

00:17:31   you put your headphones on and you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1051">TS</a>]

00:17:32   like I'm Melissa this is really working [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1052">TS</a>]

00:17:33   mix it's not at the shuffling it's bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1053">TS</a>]

00:17:36   for mixing right and I and I'm sure that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1056">TS</a>]

00:17:39   that itunes masters who manage their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1059">TS</a>]

00:17:43   playlists don't have this problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1063">TS</a>]

00:17:46   because they just manage it but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1066">TS</a>]

00:17:48   hard though I another level of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1068">TS</a>]

00:17:49   management United I know your attacker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1069">TS</a>]

00:17:51   and I've been a tagger I will you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1071">TS</a>]

00:17:53   look at the databases that are out there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1073">TS</a>]

00:17:55   for the best possible version but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1075">TS</a>]

00:17:57   know again just not not how people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1077">TS</a>]

00:17:58   listen to music look at the website [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1078">TS</a>]

00:18:00   right now that I feel like you should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1080">TS</a>]

00:18:01   know about if you don't know about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1081">TS</a>]

00:18:02   already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1082">TS</a>]

00:18:03   it's called albums that never were you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1083">TS</a>]

00:18:06   ever seen this road well I've never seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1086">TS</a>]

00:18:09   albums that never work got dark [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1089">TS</a>]

00:18:11   blogspot.com by checking on its this guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1091">TS</a>]

00:18:15   is primarily this one guy although he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1095">TS</a>]

00:18:17   does put up other people's happens and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1097">TS</a>]

00:18:19   it's given the available material the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1099">TS</a>]

00:18:22   best like reconstruction possible of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1102">TS</a>]

00:18:25   certain classic albums that never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1105">TS</a>]

00:18:26   existed like a lonely years of the who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1106">TS</a>]

00:18:30   with who is for tennis which are the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1110">TS</a>]

00:18:34   1968 album and it's got stuff like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1114">TS</a>]

00:18:36   fortune-teller it's got magic bus it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1116">TS</a>]

00:18:39   got home but basically like what if an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1119">TS</a>]

00:18:40   album you know there's no those classic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1120">TS</a>]

00:18:43   albums that like smile right within [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1123">TS</a>]

00:18:45   other ones like a really good one that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1125">TS</a>]

00:18:47   got is the weezer record that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1127">TS</a>]

00:18:51   wanted to do that kind of what what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1131">TS</a>]

00:18:53   became Pinkerton but was named rivers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1133">TS</a>]

00:18:57   cuomo that his name is gonna pop is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1137">TS</a>]

00:18:59   his name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1139">TS</a>]

00:19:00   you have his picture in your wallet or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1140">TS</a>]

00:19:02   something called the river phoenix I get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1142">TS</a>]

00:19:03   confused that it was that was before I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1143">TS</a>]

00:19:06   think this before i went to Harvard and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1146">TS</a>]

00:19:08   but anyway you should check this out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1148">TS</a>]

00:19:09   it's a lot of 60 stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1149">TS</a>]

00:19:11   well first let me point out let me point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1151">TS</a>]

00:19:13   out i don't know but of course of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1153">TS</a>]

00:19:17   this website is being maintained by an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1157">TS</a>]

00:19:19   Italian [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1159">TS</a>]

00:19:19   because that is the most Italian thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1159">TS</a>]

00:19:22   in the world has is to is to have not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1162">TS</a>]

00:19:27   you know that when you go to Europe and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1167">TS</a>]

00:19:28   you go to an italian record store and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1168">TS</a>]

00:19:30   there are pretty much I mean if you go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1170">TS</a>]

00:19:33   to if you look in the Nirvana section in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1173">TS</a>]

00:19:35   an Italian record store there will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1175">TS</a>]

00:19:37   four hundred records like the length and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1177">TS</a>]

00:19:39   they're all bootlegs or you know or like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1179">TS</a>]

00:19:43   double triple bootlegs right i mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1183">TS</a>]

00:19:45   somehow the the record collector [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1185">TS</a>]

00:19:48   mentality in Italy really is is a bit is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1188">TS</a>]

00:19:53   obsessive in a different way and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1193">TS</a>]

00:19:55   and and they will commercially because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1195">TS</a>]

00:19:58   the copyright laws somehow are different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1198">TS</a>]

00:20:00   or at least used to be different though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1200">TS</a>]

00:20:01   commercially publish all this stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1201">TS</a>]

00:20:03   where you know somebody else till [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1203">TS</a>]

00:20:05   Christmas villages Walkman who off of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1205">TS</a>]

00:20:10   table in a cafe and then they'll publish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1210">TS</a>]

00:20:12   that as a Nirvana what you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1212">TS</a>]

00:20:13   published the tape that's going to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1213">TS</a>]

00:20:15   away with it and they get away with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1215">TS</a>]

00:20:16   right so there's all this fascinating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1216">TS</a>]

00:20:18   stuff in record stores in Italy but this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1218">TS</a>]

00:20:21   guy i'm pretty sure is Italian [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1221">TS</a>]

00:20:23   his name is sonic love knowing sonic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1223">TS</a>]

00:20:26   love noise but with the Z instead of him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1226">TS</a>]

00:20:29   and all of his writing is without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1229">TS</a>]

00:20:32   capitalization it's all like no capitals [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1232">TS</a>]

00:20:35   here's one vendor vana called sheep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1235">TS</a>]

00:20:37   reconstruction of the unreleased 1997 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1237">TS</a>]

00:20:40   album sheep essentially the precursor to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1240">TS</a>]

00:20:42   what would eventually be nevermind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1242">TS</a>]

00:20:44   well you know I actually had that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1244">TS</a>]

00:20:47   cassette [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1247">TS</a>]

00:20:48   Wow there was a girl named Lily who I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1248">TS</a>]

00:20:55   dated for a little while in about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1255">TS</a>]

00:20:58   1990-91 she has she had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1258">TS</a>]

00:21:04   short red hair very short like pixie cut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1264">TS</a>]

00:21:07   out here and sort of um what kind of red [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1267">TS</a>]

00:21:10   it's that that light light red hair like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1270">TS</a>]

00:21:14   strawberry blonde strawberry blonde [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1274">TS</a>]

00:21:15   that's what I'm trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1275">TS</a>]

00:21:16   hmm and she had a tattoo of a lily on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1276">TS</a>]

00:21:20   her shoulder which I complimented her on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1280">TS</a>]

00:21:24   I when we first met I said oh nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1284">TS</a>]

00:21:28   lily and your name is Lily and she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1288">TS</a>]

00:21:30   turned we didn't know each other at this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1290">TS</a>]

00:21:31   point she turns she was like it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1291">TS</a>]

00:21:33   stupidest tattoo ever I totally regret [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1293">TS</a>]

00:21:36   it I was an idiot i was like 'oh little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1296">TS</a>]

00:21:38   bit honest i'm going to talk to you a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1298">TS</a>]

00:21:40   little bit more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1300">TS</a>]

00:21:41   Lily worked at a bookstore that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1301">TS</a>]

00:21:44   owned by a guy who was a pervert was one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1304">TS</a>]

00:21:47   of those bookstores was full of cats and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1307">TS</a>]

00:21:49   all the employees were 20 year old girls [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1309">TS</a>]

00:21:52   and he was like a kind of look like Van [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1312">TS</a>]

00:21:54   Morrison and I I don't really know this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1314">TS</a>]

00:21:59   guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1319">TS</a>]

00:22:00   Yeah right right he's a tight yeah and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1320">TS</a>]

00:22:02   the bookstore kind of smells like cat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1322">TS</a>]

00:22:03   pee and it and everywhere he's dander [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1323">TS</a>]

00:22:05   covered and but he's always but all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1325">TS</a>]

00:22:08   his employees are are like sophomores in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1328">TS</a>]

00:22:11   college and he was always trying to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1331">TS</a>]

00:22:14   Lily slowly was a was like a combat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1334">TS</a>]

00:22:17   boots and baby doll dress early nineties [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1337">TS</a>]

00:22:20   person prefers and he would he would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1340">TS</a>]

00:22:23   come to and he'd say like I know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1343">TS</a>]

00:22:25   people you know like he was connected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1345">TS</a>]

00:22:27   somehow to left bank books in Paris or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1347">TS</a>]

00:22:31   whatever the you know the Shakespeare [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1351">TS</a>]

00:22:34   and company he was connected to those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1354">TS</a>]

00:22:35   people and he was like let's just get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1355">TS</a>]

00:22:39   out of here let's just you know I've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1359">TS</a>]

00:22:41   I've got $80,000 in a shoebox you and me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1361">TS</a>]

00:22:45   let's just go to Paris and Lily was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1365">TS</a>]

00:22:49   you're a creep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1369">TS</a>]

00:22:51   and so he was be would ply her with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1371">TS</a>]

00:22:53   gifts and one day she climbed in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1373">TS</a>]

00:22:58   window of my apartment she was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1378">TS</a>]

00:23:00   you've got to hear this and it was it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1380">TS</a>]

00:23:03   was a cassette of all the demos for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1383">TS</a>]

00:23:07   nevermind which I assume was this thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1387">TS</a>]

00:23:10   you're that this guy's talking about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1390">TS</a>]

00:23:12   whatever the third their smile right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1392">TS</a>]

00:23:15   smile smile [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1395">TS</a>]

00:23:16   well completely different versions of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1396">TS</a>]

00:23:18   every tune and this bookstore guy had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1398">TS</a>]

00:23:22   acquired this amount given it to Lily as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1402">TS</a>]

00:23:24   a enticement for her to run away to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1404">TS</a>]

00:23:26   Paris with him and she brought it over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1406">TS</a>]

00:23:28   to my house and we SAT and listened to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1408">TS</a>]

00:23:30   this cassette over and over and never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1410">TS</a>]

00:23:32   mind had only been out you know a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1412">TS</a>]

00:23:35   months at this point and it was there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1415">TS</a>]

00:23:37   was a total revelation to hear those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1417">TS</a>]

00:23:39   tracks done differently and at the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1419">TS</a>]

00:23:42   this cassette seemed like one of what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1422">TS</a>]

00:23:44   would only have been 20 of these things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1424">TS</a>]

00:23:47   that were in existence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1427">TS</a>]

00:23:48   you know like it like it should be worth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1428">TS</a>]

00:23:50   of a million dollars and I in them in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1430">TS</a>]

00:23:57   the ethics that were in operation at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1437">TS</a>]

00:24:00   time I considered stealing it from my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1440">TS</a>]

00:24:03   girlfriend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1443">TS</a>]

00:24:04   oh that good is that it was that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1444">TS</a>]

00:24:07   important if L it less good it felt it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1447">TS</a>]

00:24:09   felt that important and then and then I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1449">TS</a>]

00:24:14   didn't I didn't steal it from her i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1454">TS</a>]

00:24:16   regret to this day lily ended up moving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1456">TS</a>]

00:24:19   to Marrakech where she got somehow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1459">TS</a>]

00:24:25   walked up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1465">TS</a>]

00:24:27   um just you know like I don't know how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1467">TS</a>]

00:24:33   she got to America's and and I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1473">TS</a>]

00:24:35   know how she I mean because she didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1475">TS</a>]

00:24:37   have any money and she didn't have any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1477">TS</a>]

00:24:42   back she have any friends but somehow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1482">TS</a>]

00:24:48   she got to Marrakech and walked up to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1488">TS</a>]

00:24:50   the front door of Paul Bowles his house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1490">TS</a>]

00:24:53   bubbles at that time was probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1493">TS</a>]

00:24:56   already 75 or 80 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1496">TS</a>]

00:24:59   and knocked on the door and started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1499">TS</a>]

00:25:01   working as his assistant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1501">TS</a>]

00:25:03   I I know that name that remind me who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1503">TS</a>]

00:25:05   that is you wrote the sheltering sky [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1505">TS</a>]

00:25:07   oh wow and she showed up just showed up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1507">TS</a>]

00:25:10   and and he he's my favorite of the beat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1510">TS</a>]

00:25:14   writers is the only beat writer i can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1514">TS</a>]

00:25:16   stand and his his writing he did a thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1516">TS</a>]

00:25:20   where he he translated well he had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1520">TS</a>]

00:25:24   translator but he wrote a series of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1524">TS</a>]

00:25:26   Moroccan folk stories he he brought this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1526">TS</a>]

00:25:32   Moroccan use young moroccan guy named [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1532">TS</a>]

00:25:35   mohammed mohabbat who wrote some amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1535">TS</a>]

00:25:38   books bubbles short stories are the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1538">TS</a>]

00:25:41   of all of the beats by the head and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1541">TS</a>]

00:25:44   shoulders and here's a guy really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1544">TS</a>]

00:25:45   admired and I I get a letter in the like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1545">TS</a>]

00:25:50   you know paper letter from Lily and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1550">TS</a>]

00:25:52   she's like my work for Paul's now i'm in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1552">TS</a>]

00:25:54   America should come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1554">TS</a>]

00:25:56   no I regret not going but very shortly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1556">TS</a>]

00:26:00   after I believe that she was arrested [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1560">TS</a>]

00:26:02   for smuggling heroin into Europe inside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1562">TS</a>]

00:26:06   of her vagina [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1566">TS</a>]

00:26:07   oh no oh that's an awkward call your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1567">TS</a>]

00:26:10   parents [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1570">TS</a>]

00:26:11   yeah really who I don't think your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1571">TS</a>]

00:26:13   parents were still around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1573">TS</a>]

00:26:14   I think her parents had like maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1574">TS</a>]

00:26:16   driven volkswagen bus off of the top of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1576">TS</a>]

00:26:19   the the highway 1 in their nests [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1579">TS</a>]

00:26:25   how do you think it's keep it in there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1585">TS</a>]

00:26:27   is it just to get through security or do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1587">TS</a>]

00:26:29   you have to like feel like the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1589">TS</a>]

00:26:30   flight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1590">TS</a>]

00:26:31   Oh for the whole flight for sure i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1591">TS</a>]

00:26:34   think i don't think you take it out and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1594">TS</a>]

00:26:35   likes putting on your you're folding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1595">TS</a>]

00:26:37   table and wait until you're about to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1597">TS</a>]

00:26:39   land and go put it back in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1599">TS</a>]

00:26:41   I think but i'm pretty sure she took a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1601">TS</a>]

00:26:46   boat and the you know the boat ride is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1606">TS</a>]

00:26:49   yeah it's it's as long as the flight who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1609">TS</a>]

00:26:51   have to go really work your kegels who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1611">TS</a>]

00:26:55   like this this girl's got some she got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1615">TS</a>]

00:26:57   some character i fell out of touch with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1617">TS</a>]

00:26:59   their i-i-i the last time we saw each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1619">TS</a>]

00:27:02   other I had quit doing drugs and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1622">TS</a>]

00:27:06   we had that awkward awkward weekend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1626">TS</a>]

00:27:09   where it's like well let's let's get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1629">TS</a>]

00:27:11   high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1631">TS</a>]

00:27:12   well I don't get high anymore oh alright [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1632">TS</a>]

00:27:15   well um yeah that's a lot of change to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1635">TS</a>]

00:27:19   have been a jacket that's all we used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1639">TS</a>]

00:27:21   do I know but I don't do it anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1641">TS</a>]

00:27:23   we're still two people were still to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1643">TS</a>]

00:27:24   humans in the world we know each other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1644">TS</a>]

00:27:26   let's see what's on TV so but I mean how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1646">TS</a>]

00:27:30   are we going to have sex if we're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1650">TS</a>]

00:27:31   high i know right wouldn't that be weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1651">TS</a>]

00:27:33   we should try even so that's common [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1653">TS</a>]

00:27:39   problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1659">TS</a>]

00:27:40   yeah yeah Paul Bowles though Paul bales [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1660">TS</a>]

00:27:45   I don't like the beats but i do like him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1665">TS</a>]

00:27:47   and yes is his wife also very amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1667">TS</a>]

00:27:51   writer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1671">TS</a>]

00:27:52   man i can't imagine doing what she did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1672">TS</a>]

00:27:54   that's so gutsy you haven't you young [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1674">TS</a>]

00:27:57   you don't give a fuck you know you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1677">TS</a>]

00:27:59   you think it's all you think it's all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1679">TS</a>]

00:28:01   adventure and and it is and it keeps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1681">TS</a>]

00:28:05   working over and over right here it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1685">TS</a>]

00:28:06   like all adventure i'm i'm a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1686">TS</a>]

00:28:09   motherfucking drug smuggler now man and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1689">TS</a>]

00:28:13   you know I never I never sold drugs and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1693">TS</a>]

00:28:18   and and because i was because I had that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1698">TS</a>]

00:28:20   because i had that thing that's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1700">TS</a>]

00:28:22   haunted me or that that chainmail shirt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1702">TS</a>]

00:28:25   that I wore my entire life where I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1705">TS</a>]

00:28:27   some core ethical lines that i wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1707">TS</a>]

00:28:33   go across like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1713">TS</a>]

00:28:35   the idea of selling drugs to make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1715">TS</a>]

00:28:38   living was disgusting to me even when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1718">TS</a>]

00:28:41   was the most disgusting because I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1721">TS</a>]

00:28:44   couldn't ever picture myself as a drug [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1724">TS</a>]

00:28:46   dealer over because just the words drug [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1726">TS</a>]

00:28:49   dealer like from the from the youngest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1729">TS</a>]

00:28:51   age right and that was just a thing I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1731">TS</a>]

00:28:53   was never going to be in net the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1733">TS</a>]

00:28:54   excitement of it the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1734">TS</a>]

00:28:57   it sounds like being a child molester is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1737">TS</a>]

00:28:59   it's not that kind of a a mark on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1739">TS</a>]

00:29:02   yeah and some people rush into drug [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1742">TS</a>]

00:29:04   dealing as fast as they can write it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1744">TS</a>]

00:29:07   just like oh I can get high and make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1747">TS</a>]

00:29:09   money duh and it and it's simple and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1749">TS</a>]

00:29:14   they don't they don't think of it it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1754">TS</a>]

00:29:17   with it they don't they don't put a halo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1757">TS</a>]

00:29:18   a moral halo around it at all it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1758">TS</a>]

00:29:21   like right well this guy had extra drugs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1761">TS</a>]

00:29:24   and so I bought them from him and now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1764">TS</a>]

00:29:26   i'm selling them to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1766">TS</a>]

00:29:28   what could be simpler if we're all doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1768">TS</a>]

00:29:30   drugs why would you take a moral stance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1770">TS</a>]

00:29:32   on me selling them to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1772">TS</a>]

00:29:33   um and there were many many many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1773">TS</a>]

00:29:37   opportunities for me to get into that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1777">TS</a>]

00:29:38   racket but I just was like no way mind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1778">TS</a>]

00:29:42   you're looking like you never give me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1782">TS</a>]

00:29:43   like a courier mule type work one time I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1783">TS</a>]

00:29:50   set off from Spokane Washington to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1790">TS</a>]

00:29:53   washington DC via so I so I popped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1793">TS</a>]

00:29:59   afraid and Spokane took the freight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1799">TS</a>]

00:30:02   train to missoula stuck my thumb [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1802">TS</a>]

00:30:05   hitchhiked to what fort collins colorado [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1805">TS</a>]

00:30:10   you know one of these trips across [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1810">TS</a>]

00:30:12   America is like and then I got on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1812">TS</a>]

00:30:15   donkey and I wrote across the Ben the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1815">TS</a>]

00:30:17   night a guy came along with a long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1817">TS</a>]

00:30:19   skateboard and we both got on it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1819">TS</a>]

00:30:22   what I left spokane this guy I knew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1822">TS</a>]

00:30:24   whose name was Jesus what the fuck was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1824">TS</a>]

00:30:28   that guy's name not Treebeard but tree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1828">TS</a>]

00:30:37   something to treat reman now fuck what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1837">TS</a>]

00:30:41   was his name is really tall guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1841">TS</a>]

00:30:43   this is a mythic character know he was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1843">TS</a>]

00:30:45   real real person spoken sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1845">TS</a>]

00:30:48   legendary spokane hippie I like a local [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1848">TS</a>]

00:30:51   character a local character and a super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1851">TS</a>]

00:30:53   nice guy and and a little bit older than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1853">TS</a>]

00:30:56   us and his name was like trade tree funk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1856">TS</a>]

00:31:01   but really it's embarrassing to be I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1861">TS</a>]

00:31:03   don't remember his name but he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1863">TS</a>]

00:31:05   trimming some pot was trimming a recent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1865">TS</a>]

00:31:10   harvest and he had five pounds of shake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1870">TS</a>]

00:31:15   it and as well accept it was good it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1875">TS</a>]

00:31:19   a good it was good bud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1879">TS</a>]

00:31:20   so it was a it was a it was five pounds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1880">TS</a>]

00:31:23   of good shake it wasn't like ditch weed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1883">TS</a>]

00:31:25   right but it was still shake it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1885">TS</a>]

00:31:27   leaves and you know in the little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1887">TS</a>]

00:31:31   nubbins and all the stuff that the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1891">TS</a>]

00:31:33   detritus right we had this you know we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1893">TS</a>]

00:31:37   had five pounds of this stuff and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1897">TS</a>]

00:31:40   liked me and so he gave it to me and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1900">TS</a>]

00:31:46   didn't have any money five pounds of pot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1906">TS</a>]

00:31:48   yeah yeah so much pot John well because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1908">TS</a>]

00:31:51   he was interested in the buds which were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1911">TS</a>]

00:31:54   valuable and good and the shame looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1914">TS</a>]

00:31:59   like from that's we did not get a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1919">TS</a>]

00:32:00   the buds we will get a lot of the of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1920">TS</a>]

00:32:03   shake as you say this was the era this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1923">TS</a>]

00:32:05   was the transition area between when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1925">TS</a>]

00:32:07   most of the pot you got was shake in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1927">TS</a>]

00:32:09   United States to the concurrent era [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1929">TS</a>]

00:32:12   where most of the pot you get his butt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1932">TS</a>]

00:32:14   and what's funny is in 1986 there were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1934">TS</a>]

00:32:18   whole you know the majority of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1938">TS</a>]

00:32:21   United States of America you couldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1941">TS</a>]

00:32:23   get good pot no matter how much money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1943">TS</a>]

00:32:24   you had right and so there were there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1944">TS</a>]

00:32:28   were places and the northwest was was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1948">TS</a>]

00:32:30   one of those places Northern California [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1950">TS</a>]

00:32:32   Oregon Washington Alaska had great pot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1952">TS</a>]

00:32:36   fantastic pot and what what I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1956">TS</a>]

00:32:38   travel across the country like and meet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1958">TS</a>]

00:32:40   stoners they would be like you're from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1960">TS</a>]

00:32:42   the northwest oh man you have you ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1962">TS</a>]

00:32:45   smoked rub the buddha and I'd be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1965">TS</a>]

00:32:46   have I ever and then you'd be you'd be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1966">TS</a>]

00:32:49   down in Arizona or something you'd be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1969">TS</a>]

00:32:51   smoking this stuff that just was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1971">TS</a>]

00:32:53   come on you guys seriously smoke this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1973">TS</a>]

00:32:56   heat like you even bother so I had this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1976">TS</a>]

00:33:00   should i had this giant quantity of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1980">TS</a>]

00:33:02   shake that was way better pot then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1982">TS</a>]

00:33:06   could you could find in most of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1986">TS</a>]

00:33:09   Seekers little bit of pot arbitrage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1989">TS</a>]

00:33:12   right get somewhere where the market can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1992">TS</a>]

00:33:14   bear it and frankly frankly like I liked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1994">TS</a>]

00:33:17   you know yeah i'm one of those people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/1997">TS</a>]

00:33:20   that that is gonna smoke if you got it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2000">TS</a>]

00:33:22   i'm gonna smoke it and so really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2002">TS</a>]

00:33:24   heavy-duty weed i would just get super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2004">TS</a>]

00:33:27   baked and wouldn't be able to function [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2007">TS</a>]

00:33:29   I don't know how people do it i really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2009">TS</a>]

00:33:31   liked was when I was one of those guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2011">TS</a>]

00:33:32   that were just like oh wow you've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2012">TS</a>]

00:33:34   like this not entertaining you're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2014">TS</a>]

00:33:36   you're just in a corner you're in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2016">TS</a>]

00:33:38   corner you're paranoid and your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2018">TS</a>]

00:33:39   bloodline is leaping from false idea to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2019">TS</a>]

00:33:43   false idea and you're just like I'm so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2023">TS</a>]

00:33:45   bad right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2025">TS</a>]

00:33:46   fuck and and I was you know I was a i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2026">TS</a>]

00:33:49   was traveling some in most instances i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2029">TS</a>]

00:33:51   was the stranger right i would come in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2031">TS</a>]

00:33:54   to come into a situation and I was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2034">TS</a>]

00:33:56   the one guy I walk into a party I'm the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2036">TS</a>]

00:33:59   one guy nobody knows and I had this weed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2039">TS</a>]

00:34:03   that was really good by their standards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2043">TS</a>]

00:34:06   but actually pretty mellow by myself and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2046">TS</a>]

00:34:09   nutty showy yeah that's right it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2049">TS</a>]

00:34:11   like I've gotta you know I stole this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2051">TS</a>]

00:34:13   bud from the US government right it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2053">TS</a>]

00:34:16   like you know I got this really kind but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2056">TS</a>]

00:34:18   and it's very nice to roll into joints [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2058">TS</a>]

00:34:21   and then you pass some joints around a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2061">TS</a>]

00:34:23   party like like you don't give a fuck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2063">TS</a>]

00:34:26   like here I just I'm just sitting here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2066">TS</a>]

00:34:29   rolling joints some passing them around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2069">TS</a>]

00:34:30   how do you like that and everybody's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2070">TS</a>]

00:34:32   like this part is so great it's so chill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2072">TS</a>]

00:34:34   and so I was so i use that pot as a to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2074">TS</a>]

00:34:39   be a hero for a long time because it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2079">TS</a>]

00:34:44   a lot of weed and at one point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2084">TS</a>]

00:34:47   some guy came up to me in Durango [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2087">TS</a>]

00:34:49   Colorado and he was like I've got 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2089">TS</a>]

00:34:52   capsules [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2092">TS</a>]

00:34:55   of MDMA [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2095">TS</a>]

00:34:59   will you trade me these 10 capsules of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2099">TS</a>]

00:35:02   MDMA for some you know handsome bag of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2102">TS</a>]

00:35:05   pot and this was one MDMA was three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2105">TS</a>]

00:35:09   bucks of capsule or something before i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2109">TS</a>]

00:35:12   think it was like right on the cusp when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2112">TS</a>]

00:35:14   they made it illegal so the only six ish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2114">TS</a>]

00:35:16   and so I was like yeah right i mean this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2116">TS</a>]

00:35:20   this started to feel like like going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2120">TS</a>]

00:35:23   places now right moving on up in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2123">TS</a>]

00:35:26   women in the world and so I got these i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2126">TS</a>]

00:35:29   got this MDMA and I gave him some weed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2129">TS</a>]

00:35:31   and then I had two kinds of drugs that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2131">TS</a>]

00:35:34   belong to me that people wanted but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2134">TS</a>]

00:35:37   know you can't just walk into a party [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2137">TS</a>]

00:35:39   and start handing out MDMA also i didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2139">TS</a>]

00:35:42   i didn't have enough to give to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2142">TS</a>]

00:35:44   everybody so long long story short i did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2144">TS</a>]

00:35:48   not i never sold any drugs but I did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2148">TS</a>]

00:35:51   start to feel like I was wheeling and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2151">TS</a>]

00:35:53   dealing in a room and I burned through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2153">TS</a>]

00:35:58   the through the ecstasy pretty fast and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2158">TS</a>]

00:36:01   then I was just back to be in the sky [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2161">TS</a>]

00:36:02   that was like slapping around kind of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2162">TS</a>]

00:36:04   Santa Claus bag [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2164">TS</a>]

00:36:06   Oh was it broken down into separate bags [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2166">TS</a>]

00:36:11   or was it like just like a bag is it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2171">TS</a>]

00:36:14   so I did have found is a lot of pounds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2174">TS</a>]

00:36:17   John yeah i did have I had I have those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2177">TS</a>]

00:36:19   big freezer bags how God you must demo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2179">TS</a>]

00:36:22   that can make you a target [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2182">TS</a>]

00:36:24   well yeah but you know that this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2184">TS</a>]

00:36:27   thing about me when I was young I was so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2187">TS</a>]

00:36:30   naive about about the world the great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2190">TS</a>]

00:36:36   grand I i keep attributing this to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2196">TS</a>]

00:36:38   Alaska that somehow growing up there you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2198">TS</a>]

00:36:42   are your worldly in one sense that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2202">TS</a>]

00:36:46   can't help but see a lot up there and be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2206">TS</a>]

00:36:49   exposed to a lot of different people and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2209">TS</a>]

00:36:52   a lot of different kinds of danger but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2212">TS</a>]

00:36:54   it's also it was so isolated in it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2214">TS</a>]

00:36:57   felt like it was 20 years behind the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2217">TS</a>]

00:36:59   rest of the country [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2219">TS</a>]

00:37:00   and so there's this kind of like opean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2220">TS</a>]

00:37:02   Mayberry thing to and so I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2222">TS</a>]

00:37:07   constantly getting in situations when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2227">TS</a>]

00:37:10   was in my early twenties late teens that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2230">TS</a>]

00:37:13   I look back on and go oh my god i am so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2233">TS</a>]

00:37:16   why didn't somebody just hit you over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2236">TS</a>]

00:37:18   the head and take all your stuff and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2238">TS</a>]

00:37:21   rape you and throw you in a river who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2241">TS</a>]

00:37:23   and this is like in this is around the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2243">TS</a>]

00:37:27   time that you're hanging out with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2247">TS</a>]

00:37:29   grateful dead people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2249">TS</a>]

00:37:30   yeah that in there eight somewhere in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2250">TS</a>]

00:37:32   here as well and that they are less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2252">TS</a>]

00:37:34   likely to murder you but like elbows to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2254">TS</a>]

00:37:37   like just just living a living outside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2257">TS</a>]

00:37:40   the town also like what happened to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2260">TS</a>]

00:37:42   you know what all your stuff got stolen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2262">TS</a>]

00:37:43   right and France at in France so in so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2263">TS</a>]

00:37:47   what happened was the gradual education [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2267">TS</a>]

00:37:49   that I received in how in the in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2269">TS</a>]

00:37:52   dark side of the of the world where I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2272">TS</a>]

00:37:55   did start to get hit over the head and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2275">TS</a>]

00:37:57   did start to get robbed and it happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2277">TS</a>]

00:37:59   you know when you look back at it and in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2279">TS</a>]

00:38:01   a kind of graceful gracefully [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2281">TS</a>]

00:38:03   incremental way so so that my first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2283">TS</a>]

00:38:07   experience was not that I was knifed in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2287">TS</a>]

00:38:09   a park by a couple of guys i mean i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2289">TS</a>]

00:38:12   at one point I was riding a motorcycle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2292">TS</a>]

00:38:14   across the country and i was sleeping in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2294">TS</a>]

00:38:17   parks and i was asleep on a picnic table [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2297">TS</a>]

00:38:20   with my motorcycle parked next to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2300">TS</a>]

00:38:22   picnic table [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2302">TS</a>]

00:38:23   Wow an image and I woke up and and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2303">TS</a>]

00:38:25   motorcycle is loaded with like I had my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2305">TS</a>]

00:38:28   head all my stuff in a in a in an old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2308">TS</a>]

00:38:32   but what are the big big bags that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2312">TS</a>]

00:38:37   get in the Army the Navy and a duffel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2317">TS</a>]

00:38:40   bag at all my stuff in a duffel bag [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2320">TS</a>]

00:38:42   bungee cord to the back of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2322">TS</a>]

00:38:44   motorcycle and I just pulled up into a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2324">TS</a>]

00:38:47   park parties and look at me like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2327">TS</a>]

00:38:49   pinata [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2329">TS</a>]

00:38:50   right and my own the only i mean i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2330">TS</a>]

00:38:55   lucky that I didn't I didn't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2335">TS</a>]

00:38:56   anything that was anything in the duffel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2336">TS</a>]

00:38:58   bag the dirty clothes but I did have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2338">TS</a>]

00:39:00   fucking motorcycle at this for this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2340">TS</a>]

00:39:04   brief period and i'm parked next to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2344">TS</a>]

00:39:06   uh sort of it I the reason I chose this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2346">TS</a>]

00:39:09   picnic table was it and it was covered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2349">TS</a>]

00:39:12   and up and I and it was raining so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2352">TS</a>]

00:39:15   pulled the motorcycle under the the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2355">TS</a>]

00:39:18   little roof and got out and roll my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2358">TS</a>]

00:39:22   sleeping bag out on top of the picnic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2362">TS</a>]

00:39:24   table and went to sleep when I wake up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2364">TS</a>]

00:39:25   in the middle of the night and there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2365">TS</a>]

00:39:26   two guys standing over me and one on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2366">TS</a>]

00:39:28   either side of me God and they're asking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2368">TS</a>]

00:39:31   me questions in Spanish and I wake up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2371">TS</a>]

00:39:34   and kind of setup in my sleeping bag and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2374">TS</a>]

00:39:37   I'd never been robbed at this point and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2377">TS</a>]

00:39:41   they're they're talking to me and I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2381">TS</a>]

00:39:43   I kind of woke up and they were already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2383">TS</a>]

00:39:45   in mid-conversation let me so I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2385">TS</a>]

00:39:49   know where the conversation started and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2389">TS</a>]

00:39:52   I you know only spoke a little bit of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2392">TS</a>]

00:39:55   spanish and they're asking me questions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2395">TS</a>]

00:39:57   really calmly and it's the middle of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2397">TS</a>]

00:40:01   night and I'm and I realized that this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2401">TS</a>]

00:40:04   moment that in choosing this park on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2404">TS</a>]

00:40:07   edge of town [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2407">TS</a>]

00:40:07   I chose a place where i was you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2407">TS</a>]

00:40:09   where i could shoot a flare gun off and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2409">TS</a>]

00:40:11   nobody nice elated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2411">TS</a>]

00:40:13   yeah and they just kind of stand there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2413">TS</a>]

00:40:16   with their hands in their pockets and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2416">TS</a>]

00:40:18   have a conversation 45 minutes during [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2418">TS</a>]

00:40:22   which time I'm saying like not really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2422">TS</a>]

00:40:24   sure with what you need and I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2424">TS</a>]

00:40:26   really sure what you want and and I hope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2426">TS</a>]

00:40:28   you're having a really nice night and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2428">TS</a>]

00:40:31   you know I I knew there was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2431">TS</a>]

00:40:34   dangerous situation but I didn't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2434">TS</a>]

00:40:36   what to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2436">TS</a>]

00:40:37   like I i had already made all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2437">TS</a>]

00:40:39   decisions that that preclude me from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2439">TS</a>]

00:40:42   doing anything and for whatever reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2442">TS</a>]

00:40:45   these guys just sort of looked at each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2445">TS</a>]

00:40:47   other and sauntered off and maybe they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2447">TS</a>]

00:40:50   were just being nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2450">TS</a>]

00:40:52   I mean maybe who knows that's so weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2452">TS</a>]

00:40:55   but but when i look at the time I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2455">TS</a>]

00:40:58   like well who good thing I handled that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2458">TS</a>]

00:41:00   situation laid back down went back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2460">TS</a>]

00:41:03   sleep but later on I looked back it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2463">TS</a>]

00:41:06   like uh you were they asking me for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2466">TS</a>]

00:41:10   keys to my motorcycle I mean if it that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2470">TS</a>]

00:41:12   was certainly a possibility that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2472">TS</a>]

00:41:14   somebody would come along and be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2474">TS</a>]

00:41:16   there's a motorcycle and there's a kid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2476">TS</a>]

00:41:19   like let's let's take it up but that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2479">TS</a>]

00:41:23   never happened and what if that never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2483">TS</a>]

00:41:26   happened through many many many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2486">TS</a>]

00:41:28   iterations of back right where I look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2488">TS</a>]

00:41:31   back now and don't like oh they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2491">TS</a>]

00:41:34   trying to kill me with and when it did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2494">TS</a>]

00:41:37   start to happen when I did start to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2497">TS</a>]

00:41:38   ripped off it was always in a way that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2498">TS</a>]

00:41:41   was like it hurt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2501">TS</a>]

00:41:44   its tongue but but not you know and not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2504">TS</a>]

00:41:49   so much that that I said I'm you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2509">TS</a>]

00:41:53   I'm going to go join the priesthood or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2513">TS</a>]

00:41:54   whatever you feel personal when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2514">TS</a>]

00:41:57   started getting hurt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2517">TS</a>]

00:41:58   yeah well I mean look at the the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2518">TS</a>]

00:42:00   is it's um it always does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2520">TS</a>]

00:42:02   yeah yeah it's anything that involves an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2522">TS</a>]

00:42:05   incursion into your person I think kinda [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2525">TS</a>]

00:42:07   can't help but feel personal even fits [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2527">TS</a>]

00:42:09   you know and they're like even the guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2529">TS</a>]

00:42:11   in France I mean that's something that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2531">TS</a>]

00:42:12   was all business like something they'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2532">TS</a>]

00:42:13   done over and over and over again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2533">TS</a>]

00:42:15   oh yeah and I and and every time a bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2535">TS</a>]

00:42:18   director about the time I was walking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2538">TS</a>]

00:42:19   across the chain bridge in Budapest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2539">TS</a>]

00:42:22   have I told you this story no no I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2542">TS</a>]

00:42:26   know this one can walk across the chain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2546">TS</a>]

00:42:28   bridge which is the you know the like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2548">TS</a>]

00:42:30   big central bridge and input a budapest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2550">TS</a>]

00:42:33   or patched depending on one's listening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2553">TS</a>]

00:42:36   did you get did you get yelled at by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2556">TS</a>]

00:42:39   that guy from Ukraine my god did the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2559">TS</a>]

00:42:42   gallon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2562">TS</a>]

00:42:43   yeah I don't acknowledge that no but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2563">TS</a>]

00:42:44   buda-pesht you are you feeling like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2564">TS</a>]

00:42:47   way i like the way he broke down his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2567">TS</a>]

00:42:49   various grievances with us by person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2569">TS</a>]

00:42:51   yeah all of all it was lots of ! you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2571">TS</a>]

00:42:55   know did you notice that I got heat for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2575">TS</a>]

00:42:56   stuff you said not of course I hope you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2576">TS</a>]

00:42:58   do if you are responsible i am i'm the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2578">TS</a>]

00:43:01   on the editor you are you're the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2581">TS</a>]

00:43:03   allowed you to be how you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2583">TS</a>]

00:43:05   it may not continue do i and and two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2585">TS</a>]

00:43:10   guys come around so so the the way when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2590">TS</a>]

00:43:12   you want to cross the this particular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2592">TS</a>]

00:43:14   bridge like you get to the stanchions in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2594">TS</a>]

00:43:16   the middle of the river of which there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2596">TS</a>]

00:43:18   are two one on either side the big you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2598">TS</a>]

00:43:21   know the pillars and the and the path [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2601">TS</a>]

00:43:24   the pedestrian path goes around these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2604">TS</a>]

00:43:27   pillars right so the pedestrian path is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2607">TS</a>]

00:43:30   not just a continuous sight line of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2610">TS</a>]

00:43:33   like a guardrail along the brown I see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2613">TS</a>]

00:43:37   there's like I got a little on blind a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2617">TS</a>]

00:43:41   little blonde right and i end the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2621">TS</a>]

00:43:43   manhattan bridge is like that beautiful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2623">TS</a>]

00:43:46   bridge the-the yeah yeah it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2626">TS</a>]

00:43:48   beautiful Bridget so it's one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2628">TS</a>]

00:43:50   that's one of the great purchase but I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2630">TS</a>]

00:43:52   on uh I'm on the Buddhist i'm headed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2632">TS</a>]

00:43:56   the pesticide and I come around this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2636">TS</a>]

00:44:01   corner into this little blind on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2641">TS</a>]

00:44:06   buda side and there are these two guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2646">TS</a>]

00:44:08   about my age and they're fashionable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2648">TS</a>]

00:44:12   young guys and as I come around the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2652">TS</a>]

00:44:16   corner one of them kind of looks at me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2656">TS</a>]

00:44:17   with surprise and delight he goes but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2657">TS</a>]

00:44:22   rebel and speaks to me in Hungarian and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2662">TS</a>]

00:44:23   I'm like oh sorry I'm American he's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2663">TS</a>]

00:44:25   Oh American of course you are you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2665">TS</a>]

00:44:30   you are a very fashionable guy and I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2670">TS</a>]

00:44:34   like really nice top and he's like we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2674">TS</a>]

00:44:40   are reporters for the local a Hungarian [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2680">TS</a>]

00:44:44   youth newspaper and I'm like uh-huh and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2684">TS</a>]

00:44:50   he says would you mind if we took your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2690">TS</a>]

00:44:52   picture for our fashion spread of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2692">TS</a>]

00:44:56   street fashion for the local paper and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2696">TS</a>]

00:45:00   was like I would not mind I would be you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2700">TS</a>]

00:45:05   know I would i will take five minutes of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2705">TS</a>]

00:45:06   my day to help tell people to help you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2706">TS</a>]

00:45:09   guys and I was wearing a Levi's jacket [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2709">TS</a>]

00:45:13   and some denim and Levi's and some boots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2713">TS</a>]

00:45:16   and a shirt but I what I did I I did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2716">TS</a>]

00:45:22   agree with them that I was pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2722">TS</a>]

00:45:23   cool-looking and so I stand there you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2723">TS</a>]

00:45:26   know kind of look in pretty pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2726">TS</a>]

00:45:28   seasons and they take and they got other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2728">TS</a>]

00:45:30   guys got a camera the guy that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2730">TS</a>]

00:45:31   doing the talking and he's like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2731">TS</a>]

00:45:34   takes a couple of snaps and the guy goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2734">TS</a>]

00:45:36   ok you know like you know turn around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2736">TS</a>]

00:45:38   like give us a little bit of you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2738">TS</a>]

00:45:39   get a little action shows you know let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2739">TS</a>]

00:45:42   get shot from the back and I turn around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2742">TS</a>]

00:45:43   and kinda he's like look over your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2743">TS</a>]

00:45:46   shoulder and I look over my shoulder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2746">TS</a>]

00:45:48   Adam real fashion shoot stick out my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2748">TS</a>]

00:45:52   butt a little bit like hello hello [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2752">TS</a>]

00:45:55   ladies and he's like now like a like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2755">TS</a>]

00:45:57   like flip the collar of your coat now so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2757">TS</a>]

00:46:01   we can see that tags so we can see the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2761">TS</a>]

00:46:05   brand and I'm like I was just Levi's you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2765">TS</a>]

00:46:09   know and I kind of flipped the tag and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2769">TS</a>]

00:46:11   i'm gonna show the levis tag like see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2771">TS</a>]

00:46:13   Levi's it's not it's not that weird i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2773">TS</a>]

00:46:18   mean i guess i guess it used to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2778">TS</a>]

00:46:21   here and hungry more more and and so far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2781">TS</a>]

00:46:24   everything seems this is all just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2784">TS</a>]

00:46:25   totally fine you are having a blast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2785">TS</a>]

00:46:27   yeah all alone out here in the middle of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2787">TS</a>]

00:46:29   the bridge the three of us and then he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2789">TS</a>]

00:46:32   says you know shrug the shoulders off of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2792">TS</a>]

00:46:35   your jacket and kind of pull it down a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2795">TS</a>]

00:46:37   little bit and show the tag we can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2797">TS</a>]

00:46:39   quite see it and I shrug the shoulders [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2799">TS</a>]

00:46:42   off the jacket i'm trying to be helpful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2802">TS</a>]

00:46:44   guy and I shrug the shoulders down and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2804">TS</a>]

00:46:49   now i have tied myself a little bit in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2809">TS</a>]

00:46:53   my own Kotel right i have one yeah I get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2813">TS</a>]

00:46:57   it sits down this down your arms don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2817">TS</a>]

00:46:59   have your arms have restricted movement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2819">TS</a>]

00:47:01   yeah man I'm I'm gradually gradually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2821">TS</a>]

00:47:03   incapacitating myself and some things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2823">TS</a>]

00:47:08   some wind off the river or some little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2828">TS</a>]

00:47:11   thing in my head [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2831">TS</a>]

00:47:13   maybe I see just like a just like a tiny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2833">TS</a>]

00:47:17   spark in this guy's eyes something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2837">TS</a>]

00:47:20   happens but i mean i'm also running a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2840">TS</a>]

00:47:22   running a script aside script right Mike [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2842">TS</a>]

00:47:27   think this is weird like really the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2847">TS</a>]

00:47:29   tags are what you want to see and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2849">TS</a>]

00:47:33   suddenly get like a a chill and I flip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2853">TS</a>]

00:47:36   my jacket back up and turn around and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2856">TS</a>]

00:47:38   look at this guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2858">TS</a>]

00:47:39   I kind of square off and look at him and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2859">TS</a>]

00:47:43   then all of a sudden it's like one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2863">TS</a>]

00:47:46   those vampire movies where the guy's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2866">TS</a>]

00:47:48   eyes go white and the fangs come out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2868">TS</a>]

00:47:50   he's like God and the other dude like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2870">TS</a>]

00:47:53   like the take the jump into a posture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2873">TS</a>]

00:47:58   where they're they're not getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2878">TS</a>]

00:48:01   anymore they are looking for their like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2881">TS</a>]

00:48:04   they were there were two seconds from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2884">TS</a>]

00:48:06   grabbing me when I was incapacitated and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2886">TS</a>]

00:48:10   now I was recap acetate it and they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2890">TS</a>]

00:48:13   you know things out like your prey for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2893">TS</a>]

00:48:17   total pray but I i had regained my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2897">TS</a>]

00:48:20   footing and I had I was facing them both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2900">TS</a>]

00:48:23   and had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2903">TS</a>]

00:48:24   my legs apart and was like went into a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2904">TS</a>]

00:48:27   combat posture and we SAT there in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2907">TS</a>]

00:48:30   history each other my god they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2910">TS</a>]

00:48:32   literally hissing at me and you know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2912">TS</a>]

00:48:39   honestly most of the most of my feelings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2919">TS</a>]

00:48:42   were rooted in being kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2922">TS</a>]

00:48:44   disappointed that they had lied to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2924">TS</a>]

00:48:46   about being fashionable that would be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2926">TS</a>]

00:48:47   nice break for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2927">TS</a>]

00:48:48   you know I was like ah but I i did that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2928">TS</a>]

00:48:53   you know i did that thing where I where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2933">TS</a>]

00:48:55   we saw we circled each other video house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2935">TS</a>]

00:48:57   on you now because this is that this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2937">TS</a>]

00:49:00   the lucky this is the lucky break like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2940">TS</a>]

00:49:02   when I want to examine the moments in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2942">TS</a>]

00:49:04   life where I where I acknowledge that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2944">TS</a>]

00:49:06   have tremendous privilege one of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2946">TS</a>]

00:49:10   one of those privileges is that I'm I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2950">TS</a>]

00:49:12   just a big big and I look capable maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2952">TS</a>]

00:49:17   get an incident like that the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2957">TS</a>]

00:49:19   value of being any good at their job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2959">TS</a>]

00:49:21   would be to quickly you know rob [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2961">TS</a>]

00:49:24   somebody and have it be over with and be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2964">TS</a>]

00:49:25   gone like the whole idea of this you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2965">TS</a>]

00:49:28   know Eastern European ballet movement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2968">TS</a>]

00:49:29   about vampires seems really strange [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2969">TS</a>]

00:49:31   well and so what so their game i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2971">TS</a>]

00:49:35   was get a guy turn around get him so he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2975">TS</a>]

00:49:40   pulls his jacket down around his around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2980">TS</a>]

00:49:42   his elbows and then whack him from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2982">TS</a>]

00:49:47   behind and grabbed his wallet and is so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2987">TS</a>]

00:49:51   while you're undercover to a girl pose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2991">TS</a>]

00:49:53   I get you know whacky from behind one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2993">TS</a>]

00:49:56   year yeah when you're like when you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2996">TS</a>]

00:49:57   if i had not been looking over my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/2997">TS</a>]

00:50:00   shoulder if I had turned and just show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3000">TS</a>]

00:50:02   them the tag that they were hoping for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3002">TS</a>]

00:50:05   yeah they would've whacked me probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3005">TS</a>]

00:50:06   with the dummy camera and a all you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3006">TS</a>]

00:50:12   all the trying to get your wallet in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3012">TS</a>]

00:50:13   your passport because because you're an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3013">TS</a>]

00:50:16   American tourist and you've got a job at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3016">TS</a>]

00:50:18   steel got 300 euros or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3018">TS</a>]

00:50:21   now that they were facing me and it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3021">TS</a>]

00:50:23   like going to be actual combat they had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3023">TS</a>]

00:50:26   a second to third and fourth thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3026">TS</a>]

00:50:28   about it and in that amount of time i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3028">TS</a>]

00:50:30   was able to circle them around until the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3030">TS</a>]

00:50:32   until the opening presented itself for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3032">TS</a>]

00:50:35   me to head on up the path and then once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3035">TS</a>]

00:50:38   i started to move you know it was over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3038">TS</a>]

00:50:41   and they went the other way and we never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3041">TS</a>]

00:50:43   saw each other please Louise would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3043">TS</a>]

00:50:45   strange incident lots and lots of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3045">TS</a>]

00:50:49   in the course of of you know in the over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3049">TS</a>]

00:50:52   the years they sound like they might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3052">TS</a>]

00:50:54   have been kind of new to that racket [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3054">TS</a>]

00:50:55   they were trying out some new things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3055">TS</a>]

00:50:58   tonight we try the trick when he pulls [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3058">TS</a>]

00:50:59   down the jacket yeah maybe maybe they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3059">TS</a>]

00:51:01   maybe they thought maybe they'd done it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3061">TS</a>]

00:51:03   once and it worked and then they thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3063">TS</a>]

00:51:04   this is our game now I mean they're at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3064">TS</a>]

00:51:08   no point did somebody you know at no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3068">TS</a>]

00:51:12   point did they pull out a soviet-era [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3072">TS</a>]

00:51:13   pistol pointed at me right at the book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3073">TS</a>]

00:51:16   but you know the but some famous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3076">TS</a>]

00:51:19   gangster once said to me if a guy's got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3079">TS</a>]

00:51:22   a pistol [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3082">TS</a>]

00:51:23   it's a pretty safe bet he's also got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3083">TS</a>]

00:51:24   car and I was like is that true and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3084">TS</a>]

00:51:30   was like well the first thing you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3090">TS</a>]

00:51:32   with a pistol is get a car to do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3092">TS</a>]

00:51:35   understand me and I was like you right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3095">TS</a>]

00:51:38   course if you had a pistol [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3098">TS</a>]

00:51:40   it's worth more it's worth more to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3100">TS</a>]

00:51:42   it is worth more to you as a tool to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3102">TS</a>]

00:51:47   a car then it is as a tool to take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3107">TS</a>]

00:51:49   twenty dollars on from the tourists on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3109">TS</a>]

00:51:50   icy right like the first thing you do is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3110">TS</a>]

00:51:53   good but stick it inside some guys faces [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3113">TS</a>]

00:51:55   they give me your car right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3115">TS</a>]

00:51:57   okay so you got a pistol it's a safe bet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3117">TS</a>]

00:52:00   you've got a car and if you if if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3120">TS</a>]

00:52:02   somebody's just standing there with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3122">TS</a>]

00:52:03   pistol on the sidewalk taking twenty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3123">TS</a>]

00:52:05   dollars off of people it's a pretty safe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3125">TS</a>]

00:52:07   bet that it's not a real pistol or are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3127">TS</a>]

00:52:09   offered a POW icc i was getting lost in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3129">TS</a>]

00:52:12   this if you give a mouse a cookie thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3132">TS</a>]

00:52:14   ok that makes sense i switched and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3134">TS</a>]

00:52:16   maybe not a real pistol ok that makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3136">TS</a>]

00:52:18   sense but you know and I've had some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3138">TS</a>]

00:52:20   pistol pointed at me one in particular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3140">TS</a>]

00:52:21   on the on the sidewalk and when a pistol [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3141">TS</a>]

00:52:25   pointed at you don't think to yourself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3145">TS</a>]

00:52:27   you guys got a pistol he's probably got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3147">TS</a>]

00:52:28   a car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3148">TS</a>]

00:52:29   you just go right all right well this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3149">TS</a>]

00:52:32   this situation maybe he just got the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3152">TS</a>]

00:52:34   pistol he's on his way to get in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3154">TS</a>]

00:52:36   car and he thought he'd stop and rob me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3156">TS</a>]

00:52:39   yeah i just got through this with my mom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3159">TS</a>]

00:52:41   was like a big second amendment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3161">TS</a>]

00:52:42   gun-carrying person and she had all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3162">TS</a>]

00:52:45   these you know what's your second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3165">TS</a>]

00:52:46   Amendment person you can come up with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3166">TS</a>]

00:52:48   all kinds of reasons that you need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3168">TS</a>]

00:52:49   have a gun and in her case it was that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3169">TS</a>]

00:52:51   she was doing depositing stuff at night [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3171">TS</a>]

00:52:53   mean you know the bank back when you go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3173">TS</a>]

00:52:56   to that big big door and possibly i just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3176">TS</a>]

00:52:59   always feel like I hate to burst your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3179">TS</a>]

00:53:01   bubble but like unless you're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3181">TS</a>]

00:53:03   have a gun pulled marshal Dillon style [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3183">TS</a>]

00:53:06   before you ever get up to their I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3186">TS</a>]

00:53:08   have a chance right right you're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3188">TS</a>]

00:53:10   like hold on let me get my gun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3190">TS</a>]

00:53:13   yeah yeah it worked with with somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3193">TS</a>]

00:53:15   who's like enough of a nutjob to stand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3195">TS</a>]

00:53:17   around by a bank and and Rob people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3197">TS</a>]

00:53:20   are making deposits like that's probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3200">TS</a>]

00:53:22   somebody with a little more skin in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3202">TS</a>]

00:53:23   game than you yeah right and so so your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3203">TS</a>]

00:53:26   only option is to walk up to a bank with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3206">TS</a>]

00:53:28   your deposit in one hand / already ready [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3208">TS</a>]

00:53:30   to go like your fucking Mannix or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3210">TS</a>]

00:53:31   something like s4 in a circle with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3211">TS</a>]

00:53:34   with the handgun in this other palm you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3214">TS</a>]

00:53:37   know and that's going to attract [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3217">TS</a>]

00:53:38   attention [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3218">TS</a>]

00:53:39   you gotta do it every night yeah yeah a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3219">TS</a>]

00:53:42   policeman is going to see that one time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3222">TS</a>]

00:53:44   yeah yeah I don't know you know even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3224">TS</a>]

00:53:47   carrying a knife around which I tried to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3227">TS</a>]

00:53:50   do for a while like I well you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3230">TS</a>]

00:53:52   feel a little bit vulnerable having been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3232">TS</a>]

00:53:54   robbed as many times as I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3234">TS</a>]

00:53:56   i'm talking about a certain period of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3236">TS</a>]

00:53:57   life post a post golden era where I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3237">TS</a>]

00:54:01   never got in trouble but before the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3241">TS</a>]

00:54:05   present day where you would sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3245">TS</a>]

00:54:09   maybe be a little bit out of your senses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3249">TS</a>]

00:54:14   I was well I was there was a period even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3254">TS</a>]

00:54:16   every robble for a while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3256">TS</a>]

00:54:18   yeah there were a lot of times I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3258">TS</a>]

00:54:19   probable probably got robbed many times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3259">TS</a>]

00:54:21   that I don't remember and got robbed a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3261">TS</a>]

00:54:25   lot of times in drug deals gone wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3265">TS</a>]

00:54:29   there are some of the worst robberies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3269">TS</a>]

00:54:31   because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3271">TS</a>]

00:54:33   you have scraped together some money to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3273">TS</a>]

00:54:36   get some drugs and all you wanted some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3276">TS</a>]

00:54:39   drugs and you're so close you're right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3279">TS</a>]

00:54:41   there you're talking to the guy you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3281">TS</a>]

00:54:43   right that's right there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3283">TS</a>]

00:54:44   you're about to have the drugs and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3284">TS</a>]

00:54:46   everyone goes home and everybody is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3286">TS</a>]

00:54:48   happy and fine and all problems are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3288">TS</a>]

00:54:50   resolved and then the guy Rob's you and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3290">TS</a>]

00:54:54   then you're like now not only do I not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3294">TS</a>]

00:54:55   have the drugs i also do not have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3295">TS</a>]

00:54:58   money that I managed to scrape together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3298">TS</a>]

00:54:59   so i have no there's no like Plan B it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3299">TS</a>]

00:55:03   makes it hard to trust people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3303">TS</a>]

00:55:04   it's so hard and uh and then also the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3304">TS</a>]

00:55:08   humiliation of getting robbed and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3308">TS</a>]

00:55:10   invariably I would chase the drug dealer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3310">TS</a>]

00:55:13   and so that's a real boy had a central [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3313">TS</a>]

00:55:16   system the fourth problem which was that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3316">TS</a>]

00:55:20   then that then I would be in a worse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3320">TS</a>]

00:55:21   situation so Gemma catch him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3321">TS</a>]

00:55:23   uh know what happens is you chase the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3323">TS</a>]

00:55:26   drug dealer and he leads you into us he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3326">TS</a>]

00:55:29   leads you into a blind alley i basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3329">TS</a>]

00:55:33   lead you into a canyon and then there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3333">TS</a>]

00:55:36   are snipers on earth look at the canyon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3336">TS</a>]

00:55:41   yeah and you're like whoa Hoss and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3341">TS</a>]

00:55:44   he turns around and says now we're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3344">TS</a>]

00:55:45   to the classic misdirection how do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3345">TS</a>]

00:55:47   like the idea like me now got in there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3347">TS</a>]

00:55:48   like you know what what I really like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3348">TS</a>]

00:55:50   the reason I chased you was that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3350">TS</a>]

00:55:52   wanted to apologize before I want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3352">TS</a>]

00:55:54   apologize for not having more money for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3354">TS</a>]

00:55:57   you to steal and I'm just gonna back out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3357">TS</a>]

00:55:59   of this Canyon for a couple couple of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3359">TS</a>]

00:56:01   those that that's gotta be a depressing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3361">TS</a>]

00:56:03   named super depressing and it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3363">TS</a>]

00:56:05   super depressing to get ripped off by a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3365">TS</a>]

00:56:07   drug dealer that you know and think is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3367">TS</a>]

00:56:09   your friend that's no that's no fun but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3369">TS</a>]

00:56:11   I wash so there was a while there where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3371">TS</a>]

00:56:13   I was carrying a knife because i thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3373">TS</a>]

00:56:15   i'm sure you eat you're a dummy to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3375">TS</a>]

00:56:20   out here in the world doing all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3380">TS</a>]

00:56:22   things and not have something did you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3382">TS</a>]

00:56:25   have the attention of of using it i mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3385">TS</a>]

00:56:28   like if you're gonna carry a knife a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3388">TS</a>]

00:56:30   it really helps to have stabbed people a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3390">TS</a>]

00:56:32   bunch to just kind of get a feel for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3392">TS</a>]

00:56:34   thing is i did some Travis Bickle going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3394">TS</a>]

00:56:36   who you know you're talking to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3396">TS</a>]

00:56:39   mhm you you talking to me about your off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3399">TS</a>]

00:56:41   the amateurs a little bit right yeah and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3401">TS</a>]

00:56:43   I would pop the knife out and for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3403">TS</a>]

00:56:44   while I had a switchblade [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3404">TS</a>]

00:56:46   and then I had one of those spyderco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3406">TS</a>]

00:56:49   knives that a guy had like I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3409">TS</a>]

00:56:51   modified the spyderco so that you know a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3411">TS</a>]

00:56:54   spyderco you flip it open with your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3414">TS</a>]

00:56:56   thumb [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3416">TS</a>]

00:56:57   yeah yeah um knife yeah but he had money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3417">TS</a>]

00:57:00   somehow taken this spyderco I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3420">TS</a>]

00:57:02   how he did it but he made it so that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3422">TS</a>]

00:57:05   can just pull it out and flick your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3425">TS</a>]

00:57:07   wrist and this and the knife would flip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3427">TS</a>]

00:57:10   out if root it loosened the action [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3430">TS</a>]

00:57:13   who and so I had this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3433">TS</a>]

00:57:17   spyderco that was very impressive you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3437">TS</a>]

00:57:19   pull this thing out flip it like you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3439">TS</a>]

00:57:22   in west side story and then it's not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3442">TS</a>]

00:57:25   switchblade it's this serrated like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3445">TS</a>]

00:57:29   basically like table saw that that knife [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3449">TS</a>]

00:57:33   raised some eyebrows on that if it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3453">TS</a>]

00:57:36   good for dramatic effect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3456">TS</a>]

00:57:37   i miss it i miss that knife I lost it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3457">TS</a>]

00:57:40   but uh but but I carried by carrying a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3460">TS</a>]

00:57:44   knife around for a while until i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3464">TS</a>]

00:57:45   realized just as you're saying it's one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3465">TS</a>]

00:57:47   thing to like pull your spyderco out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3467">TS</a>]

00:57:49   flip it and look in the mirror and say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3469">TS</a>]

00:57:52   now who's now who wants a like a year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3472">TS</a>]

00:57:56   like that's ignite 12 with a pair of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3476">TS</a>]

00:57:58   chucks only a high of this haha how do i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3478">TS</a>]

00:58:02   just take this from you and hit you with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3482">TS</a>]

00:58:04   until I get tired [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3484">TS</a>]

00:58:05   yeah okay but the prospect of actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3485">TS</a>]

00:58:08   like getting in a knife fight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3488">TS</a>]

00:58:09   I mean the danger of getting a knife [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3489">TS</a>]

00:58:12   fight with somebody is if they are even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3492">TS</a>]

00:58:13   if they're even slightly better at night [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3493">TS</a>]

00:58:16   fighting than you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3496">TS</a>]

00:58:17   oh and you could very easily hurt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3497">TS</a>]

00:58:19   yourself in a knife fight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3499">TS</a>]

00:58:21   well that I think the danger is that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3501">TS</a>]

00:58:22   get into a knife fight with somebody who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3502">TS</a>]

00:58:23   is as you describe what has more skin in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3503">TS</a>]

00:58:26   the game than you is more desperate than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3506">TS</a>]

00:58:28   you you are mad that they stoled thirty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3508">TS</a>]

00:58:32   dollars they are desperate to stay out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3512">TS</a>]

00:58:35   of jail and desperate to live and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3515">TS</a>]

00:58:39   what they'll do is take your knife away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3519">TS</a>]

00:58:41   from you and then stabbed you with your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3521">TS</a>]

00:58:43   own nice and you want to talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3523">TS</a>]

00:58:45   losing some dignity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3525">TS</a>]

00:58:48   all in one of his drugs United my knife [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3528">TS</a>]

00:58:51   to yeah I went into this a ticket thirty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3531">TS</a>]

00:58:53   dollars worth of drugs and now I'm dead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3533">TS</a>]

00:58:55   yeah that talk about a bad plan so i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3535">TS</a>]

00:58:58   said i did keep carrying a knife because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3538">TS</a>]

00:59:00   they're it's good to have something to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3540">TS</a>]

00:59:01   cut cheese [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3541">TS</a>]

00:59:02   yeah that's true but i but i stopped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3542">TS</a>]

00:59:05   everything that I was ever gonna pull a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3545">TS</a>]

00:59:07   knife out and pointed at somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3547">TS</a>]

00:59:09   many many years ago because I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3549">TS</a>]

00:59:12   pictured the seem like I'm not a knife [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3552">TS</a>]

00:59:14   fighter and if I encounter one I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3554">TS</a>]

00:59:17   want to show him my knife people get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3557">TS</a>]

00:59:19   such fantasies you know such fantasies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3559">TS</a>]

00:59:21   about you know how stuff is going to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3561">TS</a>]

00:59:23   and what's going to happen in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3563">TS</a>]

00:59:24   situation and I just my impression is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3564">TS</a>]

00:59:27   that the more often you've been in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3567">TS</a>]

00:59:28   fights over the more often you had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3568">TS</a>]

00:59:30   violence visited upon you tried to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3570">TS</a>]

00:59:32   defend yourself like you seem to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3572">TS</a>]

00:59:34   more and more realistic about how much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3574">TS</a>]

00:59:36   that fantasy action you know you're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3576">TS</a>]

00:59:37   really going to like a roundhouse kick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3577">TS</a>]

00:59:39   and the fight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3579">TS</a>]

00:59:40   oh you did you know that my broken [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3580">TS</a>]

00:59:44   finger of several months ago still pains [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3584">TS</a>]

00:59:47   be doesn't give me an update on this and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3587">TS</a>]

00:59:49   now and now wow really how this happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3589">TS</a>]

00:59:51   well the the first friday i got in with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3591">TS</a>]

00:59:54   the to kill all right larson and in and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3594">TS</a>]

00:59:57   I was counseling you to gently to maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3597">TS</a>]

00:59:57   I was counseling you to gently to maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3597">TS</a>]

01:00:00   you'll have that looked at and it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3600">TS</a>]

01:00:01   getting worse and worse and then you put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3601">TS</a>]

01:00:03   some together with like chopsticks and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3603">TS</a>]

01:00:06   band-aids [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3606">TS</a>]

01:00:06   that's right that's right I finally you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3606">TS</a>]

01:00:08   know I finally went to the doctor the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3608">TS</a>]

01:00:10   doctor said well I don't think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3610">TS</a>]

01:00:12   broken you been walking around for three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3612">TS</a>]

01:00:15   weeks with it tied to some chopsticks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3615">TS</a>]

01:00:18   it's probably just a spring and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3618">TS</a>]

01:00:20   doesn't know your background so yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3620">TS</a>]

01:00:22   there's no like what kind of stock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3622">TS</a>]

01:00:23   you're from he did the x-ray and he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3623">TS</a>]

01:00:25   like oh it's fractured and a since [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3625">TS</a>]

01:00:29   you've been walking around for three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3629">TS</a>]

01:00:30   weeks time to some chopsticks there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3630">TS</a>]

01:00:33   nothing we can do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3633">TS</a>]

01:00:33   it's not we're not going to really break [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3633">TS</a>]

01:00:36   it so te said you just need to start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3636">TS</a>]

01:00:41   stretching it haha [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3641">TS</a>]

01:00:45   and so God he was like you know usually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3645">TS</a>]

01:00:50   it takes what he say 90 days to to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3650">TS</a>]

01:00:56   completely heal and so for a month for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3656">TS</a>]

01:01:00   two months I'm just like Oh agonisingly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3660">TS</a>]

01:01:03   working this stiff broken finger and is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3663">TS</a>]

01:01:08   the idea to sit to coax it Ortiz it into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3668">TS</a>]

01:01:11   being in the right position or that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3671">TS</a>]

01:01:12   doesn't swell or what's the wasn't them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3672">TS</a>]

01:01:14   I think what it what ends up happening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3674">TS</a>]

01:01:16   is you know the bone starts to rebuild [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3676">TS</a>]

01:01:18   itself and then you just the the muscles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3678">TS</a>]

01:01:22   and the scar tissue no scar tissue just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3682">TS</a>]

01:01:25   wants to adhere to the to the heel to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3685">TS</a>]

01:01:29   the to the to the place where it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3689">TS</a>]

01:01:31   broken and if the scar tissue succeeds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3691">TS</a>]

01:01:33   in doing that then you can move your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3693">TS</a>]

01:01:34   finger on that hard you won't be able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3694">TS</a>]

01:01:35   move and use it and so you have to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3695">TS</a>]

01:01:38   the everyday kind of break a heart scar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3698">TS</a>]

01:01:41   tissue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3701">TS</a>]

01:01:42   oh god and so I was doing this for two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3702">TS</a>]

01:01:45   months and then three months and I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3705">TS</a>]

01:01:49   like come on what is wrong and I went to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3709">TS</a>]

01:01:51   the doctor and I was like you know this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3711">TS</a>]

01:01:53   can't possibly be what happens when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3713">TS</a>]

01:01:55   break your finger in the movies all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3715">TS</a>]

01:01:57   time guys do things where it's clear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3717">TS</a>]

01:01:59   they broke their hand and the next day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3719">TS</a>]

01:02:01   they're out fighting crime [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3721">TS</a>]

01:02:02   yeah they might gotta do this flexing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3722">TS</a>]

01:02:04   thing a little bit getting a half [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3724">TS</a>]

01:02:06   yeah you know like no give themselves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3726">TS</a>]

01:02:07   more Oh out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3727">TS</a>]

01:02:09   and it's clear that he broke his hand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3729">TS</a>]

01:02:12   and five places but the next day he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3732">TS</a>]

01:02:14   like slop solving solving mysteries and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3734">TS</a>]

01:02:18   they're like no it really you know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3738">TS</a>]

01:02:20   you break your finger it sticks it takes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3740">TS</a>]

01:02:22   90 days to to fix it and then I got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3742">TS</a>]

01:02:24   there the doctor looks at the chart and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3744">TS</a>]

01:02:28   he says oh but I mean I got your age [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3748">TS</a>]

01:02:32   take six months uh criminy and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3752">TS</a>]

01:02:36   he doesn't offer to break it fix it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3756">TS</a>]

01:02:37   that's not on the table now he said you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3757">TS</a>]

01:02:39   know it's fine it's like it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3759">TS</a>]

01:02:41   fractured it was slightly displaced but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3761">TS</a>]

01:02:44   it's healing now and it it's not you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3764">TS</a>]

01:02:48   know it's not a wasn't a compound [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3768">TS</a>]

01:02:51   fracture it wasn't like radically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3771">TS</a>]

01:02:52   displaced it was just a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3772">TS</a>]

01:02:55   the bone was just a little bit sideways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3775">TS</a>]

01:02:58   and then it filled in in between and now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3778">TS</a>]

01:03:02   it the bone if you if you took the bone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3782">TS</a>]

01:03:05   out you know if when people look at your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3785">TS</a>]

01:03:07   skeleton they will be able to see that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3787">TS</a>]

01:03:08   it was broken and that bone will have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3788">TS</a>]

01:03:11   little bump is your right forefinger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3791">TS</a>]

01:03:14   right yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3794">TS</a>]

01:03:16   ah God so anyway that happened in like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3796">TS</a>]

01:03:19   the funerals Thursday September first of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3799">TS</a>]

01:03:22   September right yeah and now here we are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3802">TS</a>]

01:03:23   in February and i am still everyday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3803">TS</a>]

01:03:27   exercising this finger it is still stiff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3807">TS</a>]

01:03:31   and you know hurts and so the sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3811">TS</a>]

01:03:36   September 22 now they've been probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3816">TS</a>]

01:03:38   three or four instances where I was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3818">TS</a>]

01:03:40   in a situation overseas or or in a in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3820">TS</a>]

01:03:45   strange town or wherever where I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3825">TS</a>]

01:03:49   like this guy this guy's gaming for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3829">TS</a>]

01:03:54   punch in the nose and then I'm like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3834">TS</a>]

01:03:58   look down at my hand and I'm like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3838">TS</a>]

01:04:00   what's up what's up nose puncher you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3840">TS</a>]

01:04:04   not the guy to give this guy a punch in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3844">TS</a>]

01:04:05   the nose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3845">TS</a>]

01:04:06   you're still recovering from the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3846">TS</a>]

01:04:07   time John that's that's tragic and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3847">TS</a>]

01:04:10   just like welcome to welcome to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3850">TS</a>]

01:04:13   terrordome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3853">TS</a>]

01:04:15   like I you know the minutes are looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3855">TS</a>]

01:04:19   around like hey you can get this guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3859">TS</a>]

01:04:21   punched in the nose i can't do it i got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3861">TS</a>]

01:04:23   a busted hand I would have done it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3863">TS</a>]

01:04:24   myself there what you know what guy you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3864">TS</a>]

01:04:26   know what kind i would punch you in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3866">TS</a>]

01:04:28   nose right now if I didn't already have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3868">TS</a>]

01:04:30   a busted finger and I'm pointing at him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3870">TS</a>]

01:04:32   with my crooked finger I didn't already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3872">TS</a>]

01:04:34   have a busted from the last guys knows i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3874">TS</a>]

01:04:36   punched don't don't toy with me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3876">TS</a>]

01:04:39   yeah as I speak you are really practice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3879">TS</a>]

01:04:41   that's so lame so sucks so basically I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3881">TS</a>]

01:04:45   just like becoming increasingly just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3885">TS</a>]

01:04:48   guy in a wheelchair with a blanket over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3888">TS</a>]

01:04:50   this episode of Roderick on the line is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3890">TS</a>]

01:04:54   sponsored by foremost a small batch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3894">TS</a>]

01:04:56   american-made clothing line for men and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3896">TS</a>]

01:04:58   women from the same wonderful folks who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3898">TS</a>]

01:05:00   brought you need addition each month for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3900">TS</a>]

01:05:03   most designs and produces limited [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3903">TS</a>]

01:05:05   collections of men's and women's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3905">TS</a>]

01:05:06   clothing roughly four to five items [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3906">TS</a>]

01:05:08   progenitor alongside an interview series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3908">TS</a>]

01:05:10   with some of the world's most inspiring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3910">TS</a>]

01:05:12   creators here's the great part the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3912">TS</a>]

01:05:14   average price of for most products is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3914">TS</a>]

01:05:16   under fifty dollars that's crazy balls [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3916">TS</a>]

01:05:18   guys that's like hardly any money at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3918">TS</a>]

01:05:20   foremost launched its inaugural [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3920">TS</a>]

01:05:22   collection this month with interviewees [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3922">TS</a>]

01:05:24   including amber vens box who has an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3924">TS</a>]

01:05:26   awesome name is a remarkable young [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3926">TS</a>]

01:05:27   executive supporting thousands of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3927">TS</a>]

01:05:29   independent writers around the world and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3929">TS</a>]

01:05:31   austin man no relation founder of weld [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3931">TS</a>]

01:05:33   and a gentleman died a great deal of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3933">TS</a>]

01:05:35   apples photography including works on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3935">TS</a>]

01:05:37   the apple store just right now isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3937">TS</a>]

01:05:39   that crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3939">TS</a>]

01:05:39   here's the thing you gotta go and visit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3939">TS</a>]

01:05:41   foremost edition dot-com because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3941">TS</a>]

01:05:44   Roderick on the line listeners can use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3944">TS</a>]

01:05:45   the code ping-pong that's one word ping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3945">TS</a>]

01:05:47   pong at checkout to receive twenty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3947">TS</a>]

01:05:49   percent off if that's not crazy enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3949">TS</a>]

01:05:51   to need edition com [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3951">TS</a>]

01:05:52   you can also use ping pong one word ping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3952">TS</a>]

01:05:54   pong at need edition calm for twenty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3954">TS</a>]

01:05:57   percent off as well congratulations to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3957">TS</a>]

01:05:59   our friend matt and his wonderful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3959">TS</a>]

01:06:00   growing army of companies that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3960">TS</a>]

01:06:02   making the world look so much handsomer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3962">TS</a>]

01:06:04   every day we thank you very much for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3964">TS</a>]

01:06:06   supporting rod on the line visit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3966">TS</a>]

01:06:08   foremost edition dot-com ping-pong it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3968">TS</a>]

01:06:14   started about punching the guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3974">TS</a>]

01:06:17   no yeah I have my nurse will be out on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3977">TS</a>]

01:06:20   the deck of the ship there was on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3980">TS</a>]

01:06:23   chain bridge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3983">TS</a>]

01:06:24   it was a night just like this back so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3984">TS</a>]

01:06:31   depressing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3991">TS</a>]

01:06:31   it's so depressing what is happening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3991">TS</a>]

01:06:33   Marilyn what's happening oh man it's you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3993">TS</a>]

01:06:35   got all kinds of problems you got to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3995">TS</a>]

01:06:36   entropy you got gravity is I know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/3996">TS</a>]

01:06:41   it is it's free radicals in a the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4001">TS</a>]

01:06:43   fucking radical now we want to get this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4003">TS</a>]

01:06:45   to bind to something is that how it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4005">TS</a>]

01:06:47   works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4007">TS</a>]

01:06:47   I think you want an antioxidant an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4007">TS</a>]

01:06:50   antioxidant oh yeah you and what that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4010">TS</a>]

01:06:52   does is it it auntie oxidizes huh mm I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4012">TS</a>]

01:06:56   should look into that I gotta do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4016">TS</a>]

01:06:57   something John they work for a long time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4017">TS</a>]

01:07:00   when they were talking about building [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4020">TS</a>]

01:07:02   spaceships that traveled interstellar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4022">TS</a>]

01:07:04   distances on solar wind and that same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4024">TS</a>]

01:07:08   solar wind is pummeling us every day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4028">TS</a>]

01:07:11   with free radicals and nobody's making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4031">TS</a>]

01:07:13   spaceship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4033">TS</a>]

01:07:14   yeah right what we wear where r is all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4034">TS</a>]

01:07:17   downside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4037">TS</a>]

01:07:17   yeah we're sailing ships went outside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4037">TS</a>]

01:07:20   for interstellar six sailing ships we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4040">TS</a>]

01:07:22   just getting pummeled with with the with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4042">TS</a>]

01:07:24   solar radiation and we don't even have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4044">TS</a>]

01:07:26   the interstellar saying you'd punch the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4046">TS</a>]

01:07:28   SolarWinds but you can't you're still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4048">TS</a>]

01:07:30   healing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4050">TS</a>]

01:07:31   that's what's gonna who's gonna who's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4051">TS</a>]

01:07:32   gonna defend this planet John I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4052">TS</a>]

01:07:35   like so so in our lifetimes yours and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4055">TS</a>]

01:07:38   mine there did not used to be health [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4058">TS</a>]

01:07:42   nuts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4062">TS</a>]

01:07:43   except in the jack lalanne model where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4063">TS</a>]

01:07:46   you would go a TOA TOA ship across san [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4066">TS</a>]

01:07:49   francisco bay point you could be an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4069">TS</a>]

01:07:51   enthusiastic but like if you were a like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4071">TS</a>]

01:07:54   in our childhood like you were like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4074">TS</a>]

01:07:56   neti person from California if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4076">TS</a>]

01:07:57   thought about that stuff you thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4077">TS</a>]

01:07:58   about it at all I cannot and under the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4078">TS</a>]

01:08:00   kind of person who would buy whole wheat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4080">TS</a>]

01:08:01   bread like somebody was a real fringe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4081">TS</a>]

01:08:03   character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4083">TS</a>]

01:08:04   why would you buy brown bread when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4084">TS</a>]

01:08:06   have perfectly so I got waiting to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4086">TS</a>]

01:08:07   the rainbow bread its soft you can make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4087">TS</a>]

01:08:09   a sandwich and smash it but we're coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4089">TS</a>]

01:08:12   were coming up on is the proof of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4092">TS</a>]

01:08:15   concepts era right where it people that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4095">TS</a>]

01:08:19   started eating vegetarian and vegan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4099">TS</a>]

01:08:22   diets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4102">TS</a>]

01:08:24   and practicing Eastern medicine and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4104">TS</a>]

01:08:27   thinking at all you ever get a cold at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4107">TS</a>]

01:08:30   this point where you've got 40 years of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4110">TS</a>]

01:08:32   this under our belt so now we should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4112">TS</a>]

01:08:33   start see some results [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4113">TS</a>]

01:08:34   that's right people who have been living [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4114">TS</a>]

01:08:36   mindful e since the sixties right so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4116">TS</a>]

01:08:40   there should start to be this this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4120">TS</a>]

01:08:43   cohort as you say who are exceeding life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4123">TS</a>]

01:08:47   expectancies and and we we have we can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4127">TS</a>]

01:08:52   see it yet because the data is still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4132">TS</a>]

01:08:53   there's too much static but there will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4133">TS</a>]

01:08:58   but there should if those life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4138">TS</a>]

01:09:01   philosophies have any validity there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4141">TS</a>]

01:09:03   should start to be people who routinely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4143">TS</a>]

01:09:05   live to be a hundred and thirty right it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4145">TS</a>]

01:09:09   sure seems like it if that that pattern [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4149">TS</a>]

01:09:11   should we do it if it works we should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4151">TS</a>]

01:09:13   start seeing for sure right because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4153">TS</a>]

01:09:15   there have always been people that live [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4155">TS</a>]

01:09:16   to be a hundred and eighteen years do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4156">TS</a>]

01:09:18   commercials derby old ladies you like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4158">TS</a>]

01:09:21   Romanian ladies in the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4161">TS</a>]

01:09:22   professionals right exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4162">TS</a>]

01:09:23   well I mean there's always some lady [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4163">TS</a>]

01:09:25   some lady in France has been smoking gal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4165">TS</a>]

01:09:27   was for a throne right be five years you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4167">TS</a>]

01:09:31   watch yourself with cooking oil once a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4171">TS</a>]

01:09:33   week smokes and drinks everything's fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4173">TS</a>]

01:09:36   yeah there's a hundred angry in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4176">TS</a>]

01:09:37   world so so what we what we need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4177">TS</a>]

01:09:40   start seeing is some of these pete [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4180">TS</a>]

01:09:42   seeger types who are still doing naked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4182">TS</a>]

01:09:46   yoga and at a hundred and eighteen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4186">TS</a>]

01:09:50   hundred and twenty years old her and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4190">TS</a>]

01:09:52   then they're just like not dying and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4192">TS</a>]

01:09:54   go wait a minute there's something to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4194">TS</a>]

01:09:56   this this guy's been eating bean sprouts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4196">TS</a>]

01:09:59   and like like some kind of thomas with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4199">TS</a>]

01:10:05   no honey and now he's a hundred and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4205">TS</a>]

01:10:08   fifty years old and look how happy is he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4208">TS</a>]

01:10:10   still having sex this guy that's right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4210">TS</a>]

01:10:12   he's so annoyed but if we type we don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4212">TS</a>]

01:10:15   start to see those people pop out from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4215">TS</a>]

01:10:17   the herd pretty soon then we're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4217">TS</a>]

01:10:20   have to re-evaluate the whole concept of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4220">TS</a>]

01:10:24   of that style of like health i remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4224">TS</a>]

01:10:27   a guy saying to me i was i was cooking a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4227">TS</a>]

01:10:29   steak in a frying pan and some guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4229">TS</a>]

01:10:31   house and he walked through and he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4231">TS</a>]

01:10:32   like enjoy the hormones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4232">TS</a>]

01:10:36   ok he was a guy that was living on week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4236">TS</a>]

01:10:39   we crash sure he's on the way to naked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4239">TS</a>]

01:10:41   yoga [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4241">TS</a>]

01:10:42   yeah enjoy the hormones and I was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4242">TS</a>]

01:10:44   oh I'm not going to now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4244">TS</a>]

01:10:46   yeah thanks a lot that sounds disgusting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4246">TS</a>]

01:10:48   have fried hormones it but i don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4248">TS</a>]

01:10:54   i'm watching this guy I just do I still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4254">TS</a>]

01:10:56   I still know who that guy is I remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4256">TS</a>]

01:10:58   his name i'm gonna i'm gonna be watching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4258">TS</a>]

01:10:59   those guys are dicks after the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4259">TS</a>]

01:11:02   diseases here's the thing how do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4262">TS</a>]

01:11:03   control for that how do you control for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4263">TS</a>]

01:11:04   the improvements in health care and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4264">TS</a>]

01:11:06   being a dick right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4266">TS</a>]

01:11:09   oh right you you think that maybe he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4269">TS</a>]

01:11:11   might live longer just because he's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4271">TS</a>]

01:11:12   dick you know the type [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4272">TS</a>]

01:11:13   he's got his little net bag that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4273">TS</a>]

01:11:15   takes to the whole foods or whatever you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4275">TS</a>]

01:11:17   know the kind absolutely this guy he's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4277">TS</a>]

01:11:19   massage therapist now my god [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4279">TS</a>]

01:11:21   so all the massage and everything now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4281">TS</a>]

01:11:23   I'm not saying that live in a living a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4283">TS</a>]

01:11:24   life where you're where you're having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4284">TS</a>]

01:11:26   massages and uh and you're eating you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4286">TS</a>]

01:11:30   eating stuff out of a bin at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4290">TS</a>]

01:11:33   supermarket [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4293">TS</a>]

01:11:34   maybe that isn't maybe that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4294">TS</a>]

01:11:35   wonderful life to live anyway for its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4295">TS</a>]

01:11:38   own sake even if you'd even if you die [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4298">TS</a>]

01:11:40   at 65 but like contrasting myself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4300">TS</a>]

01:11:44   imagining myself like you know imagining [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4304">TS</a>]

01:11:48   dying of a heart attack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4308">TS</a>]

01:11:51   kind of like goldie Hawn's husband in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4311">TS</a>]

01:11:53   private benjamin m [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4313">TS</a>]

01:11:55   no just or like I like the running guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4315">TS</a>]

01:11:57   Jim Fixx right remember him from the day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4317">TS</a>]

01:12:00   with the book on running and hit that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4320">TS</a>]

01:12:02   pitch he died of a heart attack he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4322">TS</a>]

01:12:05   totally died he had like a congenital [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4325">TS</a>]

01:12:06   heart failure but a gentle heart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4326">TS</a>]

01:12:08   failures all the time where we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4328">TS</a>]

01:12:09   finding congenital heart failures before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4329">TS</a>]

01:12:11   they happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4331">TS</a>]

01:12:11   what do you mean that yoga boy i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4331">TS</a>]

01:12:14   that i think that the that you your main [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4334">TS</a>]

01:12:16   demographic of people that want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4336">TS</a>]

01:12:18   discover a cure for congenital heart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4338">TS</a>]

01:12:20   disorders are people who have just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4340">TS</a>]

01:12:22   recently died like a general heart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4342">TS</a>]

01:12:25   disorders hormones yeah that's tragic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4345">TS</a>]

01:12:28   so anyway i'm watching the culture very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4348">TS</a>]

01:12:31   carefully to start see because pete [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4351">TS</a>]

01:12:32   seeger did live to be a ripe old 98mm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4352">TS</a>]

01:12:35   huh but the country is full of of skinny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4355">TS</a>]

01:12:40   guys who ate nothing but jello and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4360">TS</a>]

01:12:44   smoke dime store cigars who have to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4364">TS</a>]

01:12:46   98 my my grandfather put a new roof on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4366">TS</a>]

01:12:49   his barn when he was 98 and he never ate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4369">TS</a>]

01:12:53   a vegetable really have the energy to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4373">TS</a>]

01:12:54   get coffee today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4374">TS</a>]

01:12:55   yeah I know oh my god you know what it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4375">TS</a>]

01:12:57   the free radicals us i gotta find a way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4377">TS</a>]

01:12:59   to find this somebody on my Twitter sets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4379">TS</a>]

01:13:01   on the other day that blew my mind a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4381">TS</a>]

01:13:04   japanese girl like a girl born today in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4384">TS</a>]

01:13:07   Japan has a life expectancy that will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4387">TS</a>]

01:13:09   take her into the 22nd century [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4389">TS</a>]

01:13:12   Wow right figure you can lead to be 85 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4392">TS</a>]

01:13:15   at least a pulpit but so i have had a I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4395">TS</a>]

01:13:21   was talking to a kid recently who went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4401">TS</a>]

01:13:23   to Japan for the first time and he's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4403">TS</a>]

01:13:25   tall guy teenager and he said I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4405">TS</a>]

01:13:29   really anxious about going to Japan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4409">TS</a>]

01:13:31   because I'm tall but he said all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4411">TS</a>]

01:13:35   kids that are my age in japan now are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4415">TS</a>]

01:13:38   also really tall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4418">TS</a>]

01:13:40   no I was like is that true and he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4420">TS</a>]

01:13:42   like yeah it's think it was just a it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4422">TS</a>]

01:13:45   just some kind of thing where her shirt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4425">TS</a>]

01:13:47   was in Holland no no it was Japan it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4427">TS</a>]

01:13:49   like young people in Japan are tall now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4429">TS</a>]

01:13:51   and so this whole business of like going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4431">TS</a>]

01:13:54   to Japan and and everybody is 5 feet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4434">TS</a>]

01:13:56   tall is like a butt in in 50 years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4436">TS</a>]

01:13:59   that's not going to be see I'm on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4439">TS</a>]

01:14:00   horns of a dilemma here John because i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4440">TS</a>]

01:14:01   can't decide whether I should just start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4441">TS</a>]

01:14:04   refiling and reformulating all of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4444">TS</a>]

01:14:07   stereotypes about Japan or whether i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4447">TS</a>]

01:14:09   should start over to Vegas because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4449">TS</a>]

01:14:11   live at home with the parents that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4451">TS</a>]

01:14:14   don't all I my sense was my great my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4454">TS</a>]

01:14:16   great grandparents were four foot nine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4456">TS</a>]

01:14:20   and my my grandparents were you know in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4460">TS</a>]

01:14:23   the mid fives and then my dad was six [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4463">TS</a>]

01:14:25   foot one and i remember when i was a kid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4465">TS</a>]

01:14:27   and my dad was 61 or 62 that was tall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4467">TS</a>]

01:14:32   and people remarked upon it i like your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4472">TS</a>]

01:14:35   dad is 662 or something and 61 and and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4475">TS</a>]

01:14:41   size 12 foot it was like hell yes look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4481">TS</a>]

01:14:43   at us like that were we're big Americans [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4483">TS</a>]

01:14:46   and then when I got to be 63 and let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4486">TS</a>]

01:14:50   not talk about let's not talk about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4490">TS</a>]

01:14:51   anomaly i know you're changing rulers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4491">TS</a>]

01:14:54   are you still seeing discrepancy still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4494">TS</a>]

01:14:55   no I haven't been back to a doctor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4495">TS</a>]

01:14:56   actually you everything I was like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4496">TS</a>]

01:14:58   know what quacks I don't let them fix [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4498">TS</a>]

01:15:00   their measurements and then you come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4500">TS</a>]

01:15:01   back that's right that's right you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4501">TS</a>]

01:15:03   fucking rulers and i'll be back but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4503">TS</a>]

01:15:06   know and I was and I was like well what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4506">TS</a>]

01:15:08   the difference is when my dad and I both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4508">TS</a>]

01:15:10   ate kraft macaroni and cheese and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4510">TS</a>]

01:15:12   the generations before did not have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4512">TS</a>]

01:15:14   access to kraft macaroni and cheese and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4514">TS</a>]

01:15:16   kraft macaroni and cheese is a growth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4516">TS</a>]

01:15:18   hormone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4518">TS</a>]

01:15:20   it's the only thing I can explain is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4520">TS</a>]

01:15:22   only difference i mean they had pork [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4522">TS</a>]

01:15:23   chops i had pork chop some people gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4523">TS</a>]

01:15:25   say that's anecdotal or or the bed i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4525">TS</a>]

01:15:27   with you let my daughter is huge and she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4527">TS</a>]

01:15:29   loves macaroni and cheese kraft macaroni [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4529">TS</a>]

01:15:31   and cheese now for a while I thought it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4531">TS</a>]

01:15:33   was tab soda movie because my dad drank [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4533">TS</a>]

01:15:37   tab and I drank tab and that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4537">TS</a>]

01:15:39   generations before did not have access [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4539">TS</a>]

01:15:41   to tab but the problem is that nobody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4541">TS</a>]

01:15:44   drinks tab anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4544">TS</a>]

01:15:45   now you ever see ya know but people keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4545">TS</a>]

01:15:47   growing so it can't be tab it has to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4547">TS</a>]

01:15:50   kraft macaroni and cheese it's the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4550">TS</a>]

01:15:52   possible explanation and I'm sure that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4552">TS</a>]

01:15:55   in Japan today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4555">TS</a>]

01:15:56   kraft macaroni and cheese I mean I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4556">TS</a>]

01:15:58   no evidence of this but if you do a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4558">TS</a>]

01:15:59   little research i'm sure you'll find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4559">TS</a>]

01:16:00   that it is very popular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4560">TS</a>]

01:16:02   I i would have to imagine that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4562">TS</a>]

01:16:03   extremely popular is no other possible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4563">TS</a>]

01:16:05   explanation right and in Canada for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4565">TS</a>]

01:16:07   Canadians down kraft dinner right kraft [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4567">TS</a>]

01:16:09   dinner that's right that's what you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4569">TS</a>]

01:16:10   thinking about a different well yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4570">TS</a>]

01:16:12   crafted it right you will keep you if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4572">TS</a>]

01:16:14   you buy a Pontiac well they don't sell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4574">TS</a>]

01:16:16   Pontiacs anymore but in the old days if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4576">TS</a>]

01:16:18   you bought a Pontiac in canada we have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4578">TS</a>]

01:16:20   different name and a slightly different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4580">TS</a>]

01:16:22   grill and it would have been made in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4582">TS</a>]

01:16:24   Canada [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4584">TS</a>]

01:16:26   just like what are you doing up there it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4586">TS</a>]

01:16:28   seems like that seems like a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4588">TS</a>]

01:16:29   overhead for a very minor distinction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4589">TS</a>]

01:16:31   right build a whole fat but the thing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4591">TS</a>]

01:16:34   they're big they do other work and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4594">TS</a>]

01:16:36   got the Canadian content to rules right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4596">TS</a>]

01:16:38   you got it you gotta play lots of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4598">TS</a>]

01:16:39   nickelback on the radio they have lost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4599">TS</a>]

01:16:41   about this John that's why people like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4601">TS</a>]

01:16:42   Sloan their first we're forced to all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4602">TS</a>]

01:16:45   right you know it's incontrovertible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4605">TS</a>]

01:16:48   body was murdered and go yeah but man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4608">TS</a>]

01:16:57   you know I've been back for and this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4617">TS</a>]

01:17:00   an important day because it's around two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4620">TS</a>]

01:17:01   weeks now we've been back from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4621">TS</a>]

01:17:03   cruise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4623">TS</a>]

01:17:03   yeah and i still miss the gravy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4623">TS</a>]

01:17:06   it's one thing that's one thing I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4626">TS</a>]

01:17:11   don't have anybody to talk to about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4631">TS</a>]

01:17:13   and I'm so glad that you said that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4633">TS</a>]

01:17:15   yeah my whole life up until just very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4635">TS</a>]

01:17:19   recently if I just had a hot tray of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4639">TS</a>]

01:17:24   gravy on the stove at all times and no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4644">TS</a>]

01:17:28   matter what the meal was if it was kraft [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4648">TS</a>]

01:17:31   dinner if it was fried chicken [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4651">TS</a>]

01:17:34   if it was and noodles and butter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4654">TS</a>]

01:17:37   I mean all the great foods if I could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4657">TS</a>]

01:17:40   just on my way to the table [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4660">TS</a>]

01:17:42   stop at the at the hot tray no question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4662">TS</a>]

01:17:46   and put two ladles of gravy on it huh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4666">TS</a>]

01:17:48   life would have been so much better and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4668">TS</a>]

01:17:50   then you get on a cruise ship and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4670">TS</a>]

01:17:51   got like four kinds of grapes so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4671">TS</a>]

01:17:53   gravy and they have great they have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4673">TS</a>]

01:17:55   great for every meal the sausage gravy i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4675">TS</a>]

01:17:57   see John I realized this in the nineties [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4677">TS</a>]

01:18:00   i realized i think it was before I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4680">TS</a>]

01:18:02   realized that if I ever became [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4682">TS</a>]

01:18:04   successful which I have not but if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4684">TS</a>]

01:18:06   ever did and I had the means i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4686">TS</a>]

01:18:09   have it my one like like stupid like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4689">TS</a>]

01:18:11   think to do is I would have sort of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4691">TS</a>]

01:18:14   a drink machine at a 7-eleven something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4694">TS</a>]

01:18:16   along those lines probably a bespoke [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4696">TS</a>]

01:18:18   product built to the purpose for me but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4698">TS</a>]

01:18:21   it would be a gravy serving phone i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4701">TS</a>]

01:18:23   would be able to have hot like a like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4703">TS</a>]

01:18:25   white sausage gravy right you get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4705">TS</a>]

01:18:27   brown like a like a mashed-potato kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4707">TS</a>]

01:18:30   of gravy you want to want chunks in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4710">TS</a>]

01:18:31   sausage grilled it was not a lot not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4711">TS</a>]

01:18:33   lot but enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4713">TS</a>]

01:18:35   yeah yeah it should be a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4715">TS</a>]

01:18:36   substantial right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4716">TS</a>]

01:18:37   it's not gonna come out smooth thick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4717">TS</a>]

01:18:39   round brown gravy for your best potato [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4719">TS</a>]

01:18:41   that's right that's right and handsome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4721">TS</a>]

01:18:42   as you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4722">TS</a>]

01:18:43   I'm gonna want to have a new one that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4723">TS</a>]

01:18:45   don't know if you've gotten into your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4725">TS</a>]

01:18:46   head maitre d better now but it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4726">TS</a>]

01:18:49   what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4729">TS</a>]

01:18:49   well if I ever go to a steakhouse I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4729">TS</a>]

01:18:52   like skipping some people maitre d 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4732">TS</a>]

01:18:54   i'll say those walks could be very long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4734">TS</a>]

01:18:56   mr but you I know what you make it home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4736">TS</a>]

01:18:59   to get a couple sticks of butter put in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4739">TS</a>]

01:19:01   three teaspoons of fresh lemon juice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4741">TS</a>]

01:19:02   little bit of a little bit salt little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4742">TS</a>]

01:19:05   bit of pepper and then you let congeal i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4745">TS</a>]

01:19:08   put in like a ziplock bag and so they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4748">TS</a>]

01:19:10   can squeeze it out like a pastry thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4750">TS</a>]

01:19:12   and you put that on a steak brother you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4752">TS</a>]

01:19:14   have never had anything like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4754">TS</a>]

01:19:15   now seen out to me that would be part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4755">TS</a>]

01:19:16   the gramophone oh IC put it on the steak [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4756">TS</a>]

01:19:19   steak is good for everything it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4759">TS</a>]

01:19:21   extra salty butter with lemon in it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4761">TS</a>]

01:19:24   boy is it ever said to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4764">TS</a>]

01:19:25   still I can't seem to say if I become [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4765">TS</a>]

01:19:27   successful not looking great right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4767">TS</a>]

01:19:29   but if it ever does happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4769">TS</a>]

01:19:31   greater no Merlin never know life is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4771">TS</a>]

01:19:32   long although not very long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4772">TS</a>]

01:19:34   well I want to yoga if i did i do the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4774">TS</a>]

01:19:36   general most fucking clothes on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4776">TS</a>]

01:19:37   so you're saying like a 44 nipple gravy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4777">TS</a>]

01:19:41   found four apertures it might come from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4781">TS</a>]

01:19:43   above it might be like on hoses like an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4783">TS</a>]

01:19:45   oil change place where you pull it down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4785">TS</a>]

01:19:47   just a sport right on the white ones the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4787">TS</a>]

01:19:50   white ones no-brainer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4790">TS</a>]

01:19:51   that's that boy I'll tell you ever have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4791">TS</a>]

01:19:53   one burger you have water probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4793">TS</a>]

01:19:54   always sure you got to order order off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4794">TS</a>]

01:19:56   the menu at whataburger order also they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4796">TS</a>]

01:19:58   do great breakfast they had taquitos and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4798">TS</a>]

01:20:00   they got a really good good sausage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4800">TS</a>]

01:20:02   gravy so something like I think I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4802">TS</a>]

01:20:04   gonna go with sausage and go with brown [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4804">TS</a>]

01:20:06   I'm gonna go with those you said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4806">TS</a>]

01:20:08   anything i'm missing now I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4808">TS</a>]

01:20:10   thinking not a tomato sauce tomato [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4810">TS</a>]

01:20:12   sauces and that's a day-to-day sauce for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4812">TS</a>]

01:20:13   me it's not a big deal it's not a thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4813">TS</a>]

01:20:15   that you want in a tube well yeah it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4815">TS</a>]

01:20:17   not something where i would not find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4817">TS</a>]

01:20:18   myself as I'm walking to the table [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4818">TS</a>]

01:20:20   putting tomato sauce on things i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4820">TS</a>]

01:20:21   put sausage gravy on virtually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4821">TS</a>]

01:20:23   everything well you know what you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4823">TS</a>]

01:20:24   what I'm going to say I'm gonna say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4824">TS</a>]

01:20:25   cheese sauce [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4825">TS</a>]

01:20:26   Oh where's your cheese sauce cheese [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4826">TS</a>]

01:20:29   sauce would be nice and now we also just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4829">TS</a>]

01:20:30   be nice like through the evening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4830">TS</a>]

01:20:31   enjoying some TV with your family took a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4831">TS</a>]

01:20:33   little cheesy sauce [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4833">TS</a>]

01:20:34   well so here's the thing about cheese [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4834">TS</a>]

01:20:36   sauce right you got to have you got it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4836">TS</a>]

01:20:37   you want cheese sauce for your nachos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4837">TS</a>]

01:20:39   yeah but you don't want to have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4839">TS</a>]

01:20:43   cheese sauces but you also have to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4843">TS</a>]

01:20:46   an on nacho cheese sauce for your welsh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4846">TS</a>]

01:20:48   rarebit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4848">TS</a>]

01:20:49   well what kind of gravies on well it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4849">TS</a>]

01:20:52   like it's like rabbits like cheese toast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4852">TS</a>]

01:20:54   right yeah it's like it's like it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4854">TS</a>]

01:20:56   sharp cheddar cheese [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4856">TS</a>]

01:20:57   oh god that sounds good right and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4857">TS</a>]

01:21:00   know of course the the meal that we make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4860">TS</a>]

01:21:01   my special family meal is is a version [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4861">TS</a>]

01:21:04   of welsh rarebit it's like biscuits with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4864">TS</a>]

01:21:06   ham and then uh and then a fried egg and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4866">TS</a>]

01:21:11   then cheese sauce [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4871">TS</a>]

01:21:13   although i would enjoy that it's insane [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4873">TS</a>]

01:21:16   and you know you can put some thick ham [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4876">TS</a>]

01:21:18   on there you can put some thin ham [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4878">TS</a>]

01:21:20   that's a way I think the Windjammer has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4880">TS</a>]

01:21:23   created unrealistic expectations so so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4883">TS</a>]

01:21:25   you got your for cheat you got your for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4885">TS</a>]

01:21:27   sauces here white gravy or brown gravy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4887">TS</a>]

01:21:29   euros you and your was the fourth piece [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4889">TS</a>]

01:21:32   was cheese going to be a fourth now from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4892">TS</a>]

01:21:34   for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4894">TS</a>]

01:21:35   cm on the bubble I'm going above the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4895">TS</a>]

01:21:37   white in the brown I would introduce [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4897">TS</a>]

01:21:38   into almost every meal in the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4898">TS</a>]

01:21:40   sauce maybe don't butter sauce that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4900">TS</a>]

01:21:41   right there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4901">TS</a>]

01:21:42   so for me I think i would i would take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4902">TS</a>]

01:21:44   the butter sauce out i put a cheese [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4904">TS</a>]

01:21:46   sauce in there but it would be a tough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4906">TS</a>]

01:21:47   it would have to be a non jalapeno [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4907">TS</a>]

01:21:51   flavored with cheese sauce and then i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4911">TS</a>]

01:21:53   would just add the jalapeno flavored a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4913">TS</a>]

01:21:55   nice cheese sauce not like some kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4915">TS</a>]

01:21:57   industrial cheese no no not not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4917">TS</a>]

01:21:59   velveeta cheese butter cheese sauce [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4919">TS</a>]

01:22:01   that's very hard to keep from separate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4921">TS</a>]

01:22:03   she's uh yeah and I mean I'm just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4923">TS</a>]

01:22:05   imagine it you know maybe like when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4925">TS</a>]

01:22:07   work in a bar and you got the little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4927">TS</a>]

01:22:08   spritzer you know for coke and so don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4928">TS</a>]

01:22:10   tell me is there is there is there a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4930">TS</a>]

01:22:14   meal is there a plate that you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4934">TS</a>]

01:22:17   does not want a sauce know every meal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4937">TS</a>]

01:22:20   could be improved with some kind of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4940">TS</a>]

01:22:21   sauce in fact it could make the meal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4941">TS</a>]

01:22:24   I mean you take some very simple meals [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4944">TS</a>]

01:22:26   the kinds of fields were talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4946">TS</a>]

01:22:27   noodles try that with some brown gravy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4947">TS</a>]

01:22:28   on it and so good you know i'm saying so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4948">TS</a>]

01:22:30   good when i was in college i would get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4950">TS</a>]

01:22:33   to boil in a bag salsbury steak [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4953">TS</a>]

01:22:36   ah which were what fifty cents at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4956">TS</a>]

01:22:39   time that the sense of peace 22 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4959">TS</a>]

01:22:42   stouffer's boy in a bag Salisbury steaks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4962">TS</a>]

01:22:44   i make a huge pot of noodles and just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4964">TS</a>]

01:22:47   throw the Salisbury steaks and gravy in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4967">TS</a>]

01:22:49   the in the pot of noodles sounds so good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4969">TS</a>]

01:22:51   right now it's insane it's insanely good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4971">TS</a>]

01:22:53   at 44 less than two dollars i could feed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4973">TS</a>]

01:22:57   an army of one night [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4977">TS</a>]

01:23:00   myself I think it's still do i still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4980">TS</a>]

01:23:02   want to keep chili special i don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4982">TS</a>]

01:23:03   i want you know i guess you could get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4983">TS</a>]

01:23:05   functionally it's something that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4985">TS</a>]

01:23:06   technology no no that's a different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4986">TS</a>]

01:23:08   thing I think you should keep it nice i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4988">TS</a>]

01:23:09   think you should you should have some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4989">TS</a>]

01:23:10   some nice canned chili that's easy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4990">TS</a>]

01:23:12   enough to do and you wouldn't choose not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4992">TS</a>]

01:23:14   a thing that you would well you put the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4994">TS</a>]

01:23:15   cheese sticks of chili is a sauce chili [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4995">TS</a>]

01:23:18   is chili is the special special guests [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/4998">TS</a>]

01:23:21   at dinner you know it's gonna be good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/5001">TS</a>]

01:23:23   with anybody but it but it is it is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/5003">TS</a>]

01:23:25   center of the event for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/5005">TS</a>]

01:23:26   right right now yeah I'm for me to like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/5006">TS</a>]

01:23:29   it it's sometimes i make a hot dog and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/5009">TS</a>]

01:23:32   put chili on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/5012">TS</a>]

01:23:33   who but the focus is on the chili hot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/5013">TS</a>]

01:23:36   dogs just like it's like a topping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/5016">TS</a>]

01:23:38   except it's underneath em right so true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/5018">TS</a>]

01:23:40   right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/5020">TS</a>]

01:23:41   uh-huh and so I'm trying to think of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/5021">TS</a>]

01:23:44   single thing that I would want that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/5024">TS</a>]

01:23:47   wouldn't augment with one of those four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/5027">TS</a>]

01:23:50   so I think he's gonna put some sauces on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/5030">TS</a>]

01:23:52   other gravy's i think if you had like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/5032">TS</a>]

01:23:54   mesh video pretty good mashed potatoes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/5034">TS</a>]

01:23:56   butter mashed potatoes with brown gravy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/5036">TS</a>]

01:23:57   you put a little bit of sausage gravy on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/5037">TS</a>]

01:23:59   top of that i do this all I do this all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/5039">TS</a>]

01:24:02   the time i get a plate of food that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/5042">TS</a>]

01:24:04   haven't already has a gravy or sauce and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/5044">TS</a>]

01:24:06   then I mean that I'm and I put a second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/5046">TS</a>]

01:24:08   so awesome i wouldn't last going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/5048">TS</a>]

01:24:10   crease again I did it last night i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/5050">TS</a>]

01:24:12   ordered i was in it I was in a Thai [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/5052">TS</a>]

01:24:14   restaurant i ordered a swimming Rama but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/5054">TS</a>]

01:24:18   in this restaurant for whatever reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/5058">TS</a>]

01:24:20   they called showering Rama and I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/5060">TS</a>]

01:24:23   like I died I wanted Rama to swim i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/5063">TS</a>]

01:24:25   don't want to ramas in a shower [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/5065">TS</a>]

01:24:27   that's not an image i want but anyway so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/5067">TS</a>]

01:24:29   i ordered it and i use their own net [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/5069">TS</a>]

01:24:30   nomenclature I didn't do the thing where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/5070">TS</a>]

01:24:32   I was like oh yeah can I get a baiting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/5072">TS</a>]

01:24:34   rama i didn't isolate now and i just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/5074">TS</a>]

01:24:37   said i would like showering Rama please [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/5077">TS</a>]

01:24:39   and then I got uh then I got a pond name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/5079">TS</a>]

01:24:44   and I mixed the sauces oh brother put a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/5084">TS</a>]

01:24:48   little bit of the pond eh i'll let you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/5088">TS</a>]

01:24:50   know you let them let them touch in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/5090">TS</a>]

01:24:52   middle and then you're having a you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/5092">TS</a>]

01:24:54   having a peanut pond and party [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/5094">TS</a>]

01:25:00   yes gravy's man kind of low energy low [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/5100">TS</a>]

01:25:07   energy today are you feeling a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/5107">TS</a>]

01:25:08   bit of a kind of low-energy I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/5108">TS</a>]

01:25:10   like you want to be on the cruise don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/5110">TS</a>]

01:25:11   you know my god fucking gravy every meal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/5111">TS</a>]

01:25:15   you just go through this great little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/5115">TS</a>]

01:25:16   fried eggs at first I was resistant to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/5116">TS</a>]

01:25:18   the little fridays just grab a Friday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/5118">TS</a>]

01:25:20   You Don't Know What You Don't Know Who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/5120">TS</a>]

01:25:21   friday they were really they felt kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/5121">TS</a>]

01:25:24   of mass-produced which I put me off at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/5124">TS</a>]

01:25:26   first inventions like wow these are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/5126">TS</a>]

01:25:27   totally mass-produced i can just have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/5127">TS</a>]

01:25:29   little over medium eggs any time haha [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/5129">TS</a>]

01:25:32   who met incredible just gonna get one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/5132">TS</a>]

01:25:34   and that's I mean when I go to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/5134">TS</a>]

01:25:36   grocery store and I see those uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/5136">TS</a>]

01:25:37   hard-boiled eggs in a bag i just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/5137">TS</a>]

01:25:40   discovered these i went to my friend's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/5140">TS</a>]

01:25:42   place when Portland they go to costco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/5142">TS</a>]

01:25:44   and they buy a big thing of boiled eggs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/5144">TS</a>]

01:25:46   and bags and just eat them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/5146">TS</a>]

01:25:47   yeah and i was very specific that I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/5147">TS</a>]

01:25:50   like that's not a thing that I like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/5150">TS</a>]

01:25:51   there's no way that's ever actually been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/5151">TS</a>]

01:25:53   fresh that looks like it's got to be old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/5153">TS</a>]

01:25:55   and gross and I had like five of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/5155">TS</a>]

01:25:57   you don't have to peel them use these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/5157">TS</a>]

01:25:58   eating eggs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/5158">TS</a>]

01:25:59   yeah they're just there and you can make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/5159">TS</a>]

01:26:00   a you can make a chopped salad and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/5160">TS</a>]

01:26:04   gotta get that I gotta get ya [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/5164">TS</a>]

01:26:08   maybe if I just kept a little bit of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/5168">TS</a>]

01:26:09   gravy on a low heat all day long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/5169">TS</a>]

01:26:12   you know little bit a little bit of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/5172">TS</a>]

01:26:14   sausage gravy all day long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/5174">TS</a>]

01:26:15   how do you think the rest of your family [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/5175">TS</a>]

01:26:16   or two about them in the house would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/5176">TS</a>]

01:26:17   smell amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/5177">TS</a>]

01:26:19   I think it would say anything for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/5179">TS</a>]

01:26:21   couple days immediately then on it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/5181">TS</a>]

01:26:26   keeps getting better it tastes better on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/5186">TS</a>]

01:26:27   day three transaction is a reduction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/5187">TS</a>]

01:26:32   I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/5192">TS</a>]

01:26:34   [Music] [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2qm0g/5194">TS</a>]