Ep. 140: "Nadir for Now"
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[Music]
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hello hi John hi Merlin as it going
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Oh super super good tired
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yeah I'm sorry I'm a little late it's
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it's the tired season
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yeah it is it is so you had a well we
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shouldn't say what you had trouble
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getting your kid somewhere today I you
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know just normal stuff just normal human
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adulthood stuff takes longer and longer
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all the time
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yeah you wake up in the morning and
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you're like here it is
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Here I am This Is It this is it the
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nadir really well yeah because you know
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when you're young you're like arts one
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of these days it's all gonna make sense
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it's all gonna come together
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yeah and then when you're old you're
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like I don't remember what that over its
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the nadir for now I feel I feel amazing
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i'm on medication i remember anything
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before two days but you go but now right
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here it's like oh this is it man right
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idea and it I am Here I am in my forties
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just right in the middle of it and it's
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not gonna there's you know I'm not gonna
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get any different
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no I don't know I've been having fun
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lately i'm enjoying kid stuff a lot
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mhm I mean you know it's a the work not
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working is it a lot of its a lot of
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grind but you don't want to grind
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yeah Grist crist starting to think that
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the basis for most midlife male mid life
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crises na might come out of a lack of
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gratitude or perceived lack of gratitude
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from other people for all the hard work
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that we do
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yeah I mean it's not like I actually
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deserve that but when i noticed myself
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in my lower moments I'm like would do to
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all these things you know you can see
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the core
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but you know I might never know I had a
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lot of it has to do with getting sick
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all the time may still sick or Yuri SiC
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em again it I got a sick on top of a
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sick i gotta sell getting sick and I got
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better and then it was like a it was
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like a it was like some kind of adjunct
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to sick it was the same sickness but
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it-it recalibrated itself and was like
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you know what I want a second shot at
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this and so a weekend i just got super
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sick the same exact way that that's not
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reasonable John that was that she was
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completely unacceptable what the wood
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it's like double jeopardy or something
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exactly like twice for the same illness
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yeah that's right now I met and so I
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feel a little bit let me talk about
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gratitude
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yeah yeah I really think that the thing
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i really ride you you know a lot of
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gratitude for any God counts i'm blessed
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you know what I mean any God who would
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make the Holocaust sick twice in a row
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oh i just read that Hitler book again
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which one is that the meaning of Hitler
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radio and the thing it turns out it's
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not actually about the meaning of Hitler
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it's about people trying to find meaning
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and Hitler as a widely misunderstood
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book and Hitler's a baby on the cover
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right at the book
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oh no different book how even Hitler was
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his x is it it was sent to me by a
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German listener of our program and look
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this up and it is a it's a book that was
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originally published in German by a
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German man it's a small book a thin book
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but it is and it was a huge bestseller
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when it came out in 1979 in Germany but
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it is just so full of insight written in
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a very chatty casual style so full of
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inside and you you read it in the first
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you know the first half of the book is
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you just like oh my god this book is
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explaining so much about the psychology
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of Germany at the time and Hitler and
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his appeal and you know you just you
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just like inside inside inside and then
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the second half of the book it's just
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like oh my god this is so much worse
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than I thought
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even so much after a lifetime of
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studying this guy this little thin book
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is really instructing me on how much
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worse it is than I ever imagined really
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gonna cover my ass for a minute
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the book i was thinking of the time we
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mentioned on the public radio is called
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explaining Hitler explaining Hitler i
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colon the search for the origins of his
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evil and this is a 1998 book by
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journalists wrong rosenbaum it's got a
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picture of Hitler's a baby on the cover
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and book is kind of i'm giving believe
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widely misunderstood because he's not
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trying to actually explain Hitler he's
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trying to understand the people who try
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to explain this might be a nice young
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complainers yeah if you've wrapped
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around to reading that one twice you
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might want to move back to the states
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and have a look at explaining Hitler
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explaining Hitler yeah i i'm not sure i
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want to have to have the explainers of
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excessive Hitler explained to me but
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maybe you know maybe hey Hitler
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explaining and explaining the book i'm
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not you don't like it John you sound
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terrible but you know what that's the
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northwest I can have I'm on the mend the
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book something that was by sebastian
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Hafner that's a great and yes Sebastian
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after and he's just he's so smart
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anyway so that so I've been you know
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think about Hitler and then and then and
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then bombed like really bummed like that
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the tail end of this book is I mean not
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that I want to look about Hitler you're
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in for the second I wouldn't believe
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more you know what I mean look at us
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like you would think you would think if
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i walk out of the house with the spring
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in my step
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having experienced nearly you step you
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know really jumped you losing your step
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jump into this book a second time but
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it's really it's the type of book I
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don't usually read book multiple times
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but this is one of those books you could
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read every few years and a lot of books
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and somehow you came back to that one
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like I say like I say it's a it stands
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just added and just as a as a book
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because because how many books are there
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and I'm and maybe with one of the
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appeals of it is that i would like to
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write books about things that everybody
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thinks they already know everything
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about you want to read it turns out book
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right because it turns out as it turns
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out dot you thought that toilet water in
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the in the southern hemisphere went down
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counterclockwise my parents out turns
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yeah and and so this is one of those
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books where it's like everybody thinks
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they already know about everything there
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is to know about this story and and it's
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not really he doesn't really frame it
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and it turns out way he's just like well
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you know let me let me let me show let
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me show you ever let me show you how we
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got there let me show you why this
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mattered
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why this thing which we all just sort of
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gloss over Hitler's evil for instance
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you know we just sort of say that
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Hitler's evil and matt and move on as
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though we all agree but let's talk about
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what that means right and i love that
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stuff you know i would like to i would
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like to have that that kind of a thought
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proficiency is all but that's kinda want
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to get from that other book is that same
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idea is that like if you just try to
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look this over here and this big easy
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relatively easy to understand pile
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called evil you miss out a lot on unlike
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how profoundly bad news it was right i
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think that thing with you write
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something off as evil I mean what what
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the fuck does that mean what does that
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mean people i'm sorry i wanted to curse
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on Hitler conversation but you know
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it'sit's it does it does seem like you
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know there's a good we should talk about
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illness
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yeah evil I mean evil is not a not a
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thing that you want to
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are off your your-your-your bright
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sunshiny middle-aged guys podcast yeah
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let's start talking about evil right
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away first 10 minutes i've said this
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before i'm gonna say it again i am you
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know that job I had in nineties was
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working on a lot of stuff with
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litigation and environmental assessments
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involving lots of stuff involving like
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chemicals so basically here's a nut
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here's the job that i had 45 years was
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working at a place where if a giant
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giant giant company got sued by somebody
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if there's any chance in the world that
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person had actually been injured like
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really honestly if there was a chance it
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would just write a check right that's
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the thing that people used to do like GE
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used to just write if you said hey
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there's PCBs in my cereal
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however implausible that was if they
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thought there was some chance that that
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could go to court and like they had a
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chance when they would just write a
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check and eventually the companies like
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hey we can't afford to do this forever
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so we got the most cynical ass annoying
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ambulance-chasing cases and had to let
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go and like do a pics and bunnies puppet
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show of science to show how look at it
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the you this guy would have to eat do
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nothing but eat cereal full of chlordane
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40 years and it's still much more likely
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his lung cancer came from his three
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packs of cigarettes a day right to do
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that because you've got a really like a
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pig's and bunnies you got to really
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bring it down and I was the era of a lot
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of like rats in your coke can and then
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people were people were were drumming up
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some some species lawsuits I i remember
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hearing around the same time starting
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maybe in the eighties I remember he
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never did this but I think this is kind
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of a coupon guy thing to do that like
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you right if you write a letter to the
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winn-dixie and you say there was a rat
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in my coke to give you free stuff right
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there that's a guy freak oh yeah yeah
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and then that became kind of an industry
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thing is though like a lot of people
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came in with like sick building syndrome
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you're supposedly the black mold or not
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even black hole just the fact that you
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know with you have these really crazy
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consultant people come in so you've got
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to go live in this mobile home that
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doesn't have any quote unquote chemicals
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in it and I became very suspicious
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no homes no no chemicals are used in the
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construction of mobile homes
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no not at all but I became very cynical
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about all that stuff you know one hit
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theory in cancer and all these ideas
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that have been you know they're pretty
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pretty bananas
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what about radon how do you feel about
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check for that you know what I mean
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yeah because God put it there mm that's
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what he would he wants is great about
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nobody sense how poor John my gosh you
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should sue somebody have you been
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exposed to anything recently have i ever
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you might have missed me with
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mesothelioma thinking about on daytime
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ideas that I feel like they are having
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their taking a toll they're making me
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yeah the it just makes me wonder though
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I live in an old house and there are
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times when I think my family keeps
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getting sick i wonder if there's
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something that's killing us in our house
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last thing the world everyone thought
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about do you have two cows syndrome
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think I think it's really purely
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behavioral and cognitive which is like
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if i get out of the house and walk
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around like a fucking gentleman like get
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out of the house of I don't lay there
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eight hours i have a slightly better
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mood and I breathe better
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I think it's just sitting on my ass but
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but you know but it's nice to know
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you're a syndrome that's right there's
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nobody can sue for that radon is one of
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the densest substances that remains a
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gas under normal condition no kidding
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yes it is the operator mercury to very
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dense gas rain on our apartment yeah
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well I think we should all learn more
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about radon it would be if we do nothing
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else today we should learn more about
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I you don't real active colorless and
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odorless and tasteless noble gas see
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that round-out that's how the the KGB
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kills their their expatriates is that
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something Germany kind of thing to do it
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but radon gas in their basements in new
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jersey new jersey kids get sick as I was
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I was coming here I wanted to add an
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addenda to keep moving and get out of
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Oh fantastic
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because I realized that is you know in
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its basic form it is complete and holy
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especially if you say it correctly i
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don't think i would never want to I
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would never want to accuse our listeners
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not saying correctly but you got me it's
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not keeping my hands are always not more
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it's not keeping or get out of the way
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it's keep moving and getting tired of
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constantly to both degree
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yeah absolutely absolutely and it's it's
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it's a it's a holy edict and it ended it
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belongs it belongs carved into a
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Lincoln's nose on 11 Mount Rushmore but
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actually it should be translated into
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every language and carved onto the to
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the Lincoln of your country on the Mount
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Rushmore of what your country
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let's go forward in fourth grade every
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year you always get like this day in
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history
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he's like back in Ohio we make paper
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mache Indian mounds and stuff like that
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like I state the Buckeye State absolute
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hundred percent go buckeyes I think
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there should be a module regarding keep
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moving and get out of the way at every
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level in primary education
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absolutely they should teach it they
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should want to make sure you continue to
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teach you should have to recite it at
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the DMV if you get a citation for you
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should have to go to some kind of keep
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moving gallery school but I realized
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that there that there are that there
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need to be sort of a bill of rights of
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keep moving it out of the way there
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needs to be a a some articles that go
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along with these are like your
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amendments these are like you're not
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allowed to drink no more slavery that
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that's right that's right that's right
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a universe without the First Amendment
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first amendment to the junkie million
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other way see it seems to me to be that
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we need to introduce an additional
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concept which is the concept of of
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positional relativity or inertial
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relativity insertion Paul International
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am in a crowd of people moving or
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certainly on the highway moving any
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situation where you are in a group of
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people and you're all moving the same
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direction more or less
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uh-huh so you could be in this crowd of
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people and you could be thinking to
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yourself I am keeping moving and I'm not
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in anybody's way because we're all
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moving together in the same direction
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more or less and so I am fulfilling the
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tenants of keep moving you know the way
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so I'm fine and I'm going to go back to
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sleep i'm going to start looking at my
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phone i'm gonna go back back into the
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sort of you know a text trance
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uh-huh but the reality is i find that
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you need to keep moving also relative to
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the other people who are moving around
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you it's not enough to just do some
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yeah yeah that's right you need to the
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International relativity you should
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always because of international
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relativity you should always also be
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either passing or being passed
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oh that's good you know what I mean
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right he's not busy being born is busy
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dying like that is exactly right because
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your own claws if you are not being
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passed by other people then you should
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be passing other people you should not
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be do not ever allow yourself to become
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part of a of a block movement where
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everyone is moving at the same pace
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because that is the death of innovation
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space for somebody who needs to go super
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thank you ok exactly i had to fly on
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United last week and I i I'd it
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oh man and still mad at them and and all
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this being mad at them
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yeah has really paid off for me how's
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that I just it just kills you
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I just feels good I keep being mad at
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united and make it being over there and
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I keep going over here and and uh yes is
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what they wore winter
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this is what they pay for asking for
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first class for some reason they want to
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use United
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I was in the nice part of the bus and
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not know where is this clear this yes
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America's highways sure but on the
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moving sidewalk
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I don't want to get all Seinfeld here
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but honestly the moving sidewalk it
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betray so much about how little
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understood the American understands
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about getting anywhere
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sidewalk is a very small petri dish is a
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controlled environment shares narrow it
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is limited and narrow there's only so
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much you can do and so therefore it is a
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heightened state where you must practice
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the ninja levels of keep moving and get
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out of the way and what did you discover
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on let me just let me just tell you
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there's all you need is you know here's
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the thing
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there are people who don't travel a lot
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who don't know about moving to the right
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either on an escalator I mean that's the
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thing I'm imagine something in in
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seattle it's definitely a thing in San
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I mean we were downtown yesterday and
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you can tell the people who are from out
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of town because they don't know to move
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to the right of the escalator let people
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get by right because they are from
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stockton and and there is no right or
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left in stock and comfortable it's all
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just a flat so jesus said this is the
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thing that I don't let me just add yes
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but i think people who are from a wide
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open spaces central California I was
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talking to a woman from the Czech
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Republic last night and she said as we
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were sitting and chatting and she was
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like American to the Ukraine and I was
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like never been to the Ukraine slovakia
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all mountains in Slovakia and she was
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like how you create beautiful
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well she said this is the thing about
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the Ukraine that people don't fully
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understand and Russia to which is that
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mountains of the slovak ear or whatever
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you have you know halfway through Poland
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it starts happening and then it's just a
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flat pan
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it's a flat pan all the way to the Ural
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another bump all the Ukraine is
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completely flat and she said all of
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Russia is flat until you get to the year
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olds but the you know the populated part
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of Russia just flat as a pancake and
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that and she said these but the people
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in those places they don't have any
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geographical features and so they do not
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feel hemmed in by geography they don't
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because there's no ocean there too to be
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the Old West or something like walk
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around the planes there's there's no
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left and right like stars no left and
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right it's just like it's just like
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every direction so why would you move to
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the left or right for any reason just
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more it's more and more stockton yeah
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it's just it's basically like the sky
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except it's under your feet and it's
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brown right and what's that thing called
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we can fly anywhere in the sky the open
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skies theory what's it called
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so open skies theory though it's called
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uh we were like planes what we will
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hardly ever had each other if they're
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just lying around what you you always
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remember what that's called Oh
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positional national/international
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relativity international relative she
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doesn't have a sense of she she met will
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be from stockton well the thing is she's
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from the czech republic which is very
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hilly it's like if it's not a hill
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it's a Dale you know what I mean like
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the czech republic is all hills and a
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lot so she's really she was born she was
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literally raised international
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relativity she has she had a tongue that
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she got into fucking check bones
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yeah and so she was commenting on her
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fellow Eastern Bloc Slavic peoples but
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it was a one of these like you choose
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that she can do that she can and the
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thing is I think the czech republic is
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the California of Central Europe stay
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clear that they feel like because and I
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think especially if you were if you were
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raised in the Czech Republic when the
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wall was there right the wall was
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essentially the late let gene something
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haha it left that means wallow left
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means wall but uh but but she's
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commenting on the Ukrainians and and the
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Russians she's trying to explain their
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mentality and the and it sounded exactly
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like how i would explain the mentality
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of someone from Nebraska or Montana or
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it's just all
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all it's just all open big sky country
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so anyway so you're on the beer on the
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moving sidewalk and you are encountering
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some people from stockton we just think
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there's more thing is like it's one
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thing to be a tourist who feels like
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someone was just brusk and asking you to
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move aside
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but the thing is if you're here for a
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week you'll eventually go I get it
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I'm supposed to move over to the right
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like it says on the fucking sign right i
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learned something yesterday and if you
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get to be a local and like people will
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get that an airport that doesn't happen
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it's the same reason the TSA line is so
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unbearable
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it's just it's it's literally like hell
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because it's the same thing over and
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over people always like you know what I
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tried to put water through the other day
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i'm a pro and i actually tried to put
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water throw up right now on the worst
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and that they got a guy that stands
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right there and shouts at you
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ya to take your water our know and I was
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I was like I was so so what's the word
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like supplications like I'm so sorry I i
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had to get up at 3am my time to be here
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and I'm i can't believe i have a smart
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water in my bag I'm really really sorry
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yeah that's not me no here's the
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dangerous one the dangerous dangerous
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one is the pair of to me big beefy guys
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yeah who are walking fast ish down the
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middle like two big heavy guys no
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offense walking down the middle at like
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a slightly above average pace that right
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that's the worst because they think if
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they think they've nailed it
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they think they are both keeping moving
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and getting out with you think it with
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me at all if they're thinking at all and
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I think they're probably not they're
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feeling like cock of the walk like they
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have really they understand that this is
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not something you just stand on
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you-know-what with a big wide stance
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make it came all the way here from
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central California they're coming to the
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the beef herders to convention downtown
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in the top 10 in the castro had they are
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having a good old time getting where
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they're going but then he had a roller
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bag got the roller bag here comes Merlin
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mongoose
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yeah and I'm like I'm like a little
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squirrelly guy right yeah that thing on
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your way to somewhere
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yeah but I need to get somewhere but i
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also want to teach oh yes i want to
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teach I want to be a dick about it but
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the thing is no matter how fast you're
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going there's always somebody else that
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needs to go faster and that's why it's
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international relativity you have to
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understand you always gotta make room
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for somebody who's like a bullet going
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through that and that's what makes room
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for the next bullet make room for the
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bullet Nick room for the bullet and and
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they they looked at me like I said
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excuse me and not a mean way but i can
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use me like as in like you're literally
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walking down the center of the moving
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sidewalk and taking the entire birth and
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just because you're moving doesn't mean
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you're getting out of the way em anyway
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I i have god I just if we could all get
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that there's so many things that would
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be so much easier to deal with if these
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if international relativity were
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introduced
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well I'm this is a concept that they
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understand in Europe much better because
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in poison ivy lesson rights in Europe
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John there everybody in your nose right
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where the left on the right arm because
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if they make them if they step to the
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left and then they get to the ride and
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put the hands on their hips and then all
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of a sudden there in the duty of
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luxembourg and somebody else you know
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when somebody else's their King and that
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you're doing the last time warp right
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site work so so but the thing is like
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however many years ago it was and i
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think it was like carter administration
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when they put up all those signs that
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said a slower slower traffic move right
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like they were trying to do that in
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America they were trying to teach us and
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one when i was when i got my driver's
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license it was one of the questions in
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the driver's license exam and and they
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really hammered on it like slower
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traffic keep right the left lane is for
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passing oh maybe John do you remember is
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it just me or wasn't there a time in
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america where that leftmost lane was
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literally called the passing lane but
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what has lain it was the passing lane
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the passing lane an entire Lane for
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passing because everybody's got to go
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faster or slower you use the passing
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lane to pass and then you move over no
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matter how fast you're going
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that's right and we'll just go over
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there cuz you're going 65 go in there
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and like live there
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yeah i'm i'm going the speed limit is 65
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I'm going 65 and no one should be
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allowed to go fast and a plan traffic
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cop see this is and this is that this is
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the i-5 problem if you get out there
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around Sacramento you encounter these
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people who not only don't know left from
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right but they've got some you know they
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just came from a church in a mobile home
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and there and they believe that they're
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doing God's work by keeping keeping the
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traffic tempo down you know like 65
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miles an hour is the speed limit and i'm
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here to enforce it but in in in Europe
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they never they never decided that we
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decided somewhere at some point in
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America that all that was we were that
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was just a suggestion
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we were just suggesting that you keep
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right but then we're not really
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enforcing that and that's not really
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anything there are some states where it
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actually isn't the law and you know and
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it became like oh let's just you know
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can we all just agree on cheese
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yeah but in Europe it's amazing and so
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you see it not only on the highways but
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you see it like in public spaces to
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people understand to get out of the way
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the bullet
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yeah and you know the problem is the
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bullet this is the other thing the
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bullet could be Hitler at any time
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yeah and so you do want to get out of
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the way of the bullet
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uh-huh no wait a little wheels you know
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it's basically this is really i hate to
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say this I I nothing against our
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wonderful provincial American friends
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but there is something kind of big city
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about it and that's why I think one
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reason Manhattan feels so Brask to
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people but you know here's here's the
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part that's really going to bum you and
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keep you up at night is that the people
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who want you to get the hell out of
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their way on the sidewalk don't actually
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care about you
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no don't it's about society if your
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house is about keeping moving it's about
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getting out of the way it's about what's
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the phrase inner a an inertial
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internationally international relatively
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yeah and so but yeah you're actually
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right but it's very self-involved it's
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very provincial to say like the speed
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limit is 65 ergo yeah i can i can charge
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out here
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ergo I could be at any lane because no
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one should be going faster than anything
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that's why I love driving in Manhattan
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because the rules of driving in
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Manhattan are if the nose of your car is
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one micrometer in front of the nose of
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the car next to you then you have
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positional Authority and you can do
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whatever you want and that guy has to
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watch out right like if you get in front
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of another car even half a car length in
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front of another car then you can more
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or less change lanes at will
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because the presumption is that you are
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ahead of that guy so it's his
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responsibility to look out for you and
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you are looking forward and making
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decisions about what's coming at you
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like all of Manhattan traffic is looking
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forward very different from somebody
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who's used to the on ramp off ramp by
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the walmart where we always politely to
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do a zipper thing there is no merge
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concept in New York you never know
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whenever like puts their arm over the
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passenger seat and cranes their neck
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around to see if there's a spot and puts
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their blinker on and slows down and
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waits for a spot because there's never a
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spot right you know no one will ever
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make a spot for you
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so the only way that you can get around
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and that's not because they're mean
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that's just because that's how driving
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works that's just how driving works
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right and so you just drive and you're
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looking forward and you assume that the
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people who are not in your peripheral
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vision are watching you because you're
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in front of them and if you use if you
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turn right then they get out of your way
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and it's it's genius you drive in New
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York and no one
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the thing is no one ever hits the brakes
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you just are all moving in a symbiosis
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because you're you have this awareness
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and you recognize that because you don't
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really have to look behind you then all
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then all of a sudden like what you need
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to do is really understood and taken
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care of which is like I've got three
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guys in front of me and I'm watching
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them and okay this guy's moving so I'm
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moving into that space you know I'm
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moving into that space inside it's
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almost like a beautiful dangerous dance
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it's it's the it's the best
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everybody's going out how in the world
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could traffic on Third Avenue go 65
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miles an hour but it happens all the
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time and it's because nobody's looking
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back they could just break the rearview
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mirrors off they're just looking forward
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and dealing with the 325 things in front
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of that right
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ok there's a bike messenger on the left
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this taxicab looks like he's looking for
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a fair there's a delivery truck up there
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I see him two blocks as fast as reactive
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as opposed to wondering how soon you get
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to go 65 on a highway again and being
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frustrated because the because the brake
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lights when do I get to go 65 is I'm
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gonna go 65 yeah yeah it's so it's so
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secretary Hasse passive that that that
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version of it is
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yeah that the the country ass highway
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version of driving you know is is the
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worst and when you when you get into an
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environment and the thing is all all
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like center central cities have their
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own tempo I mean Detroit is very you
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would think Detroit kind of midwest de
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but because the car culture is so strong
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going into detroit and it feels it
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really feels like lineup lineup to make
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a run at the death star you know like
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you just strap in and you just here we
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go we're going in like that in Boston
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oh yeah Miami Boston the Boston has the
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additional advantage of like there are
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no street signs given up trying to
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experience of driving in a place where
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a hundred and ninety kilometers an hour
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an hour i'm over here in the path of
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happy with myself I'm gonna I'm gonna
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relax for once you start down to like a
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sense of like there's nobody who could
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ever object to what I'm doing
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yeah you know it's against the classic
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kind of like annoying America thing of
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like I've covered my bases here I know
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harass anyone so therefore nobody could
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ever have any objection to what I'm
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yeah right i mean i'm going hundred and
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ninety kilometers an hour i'm fucking I
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you who could who could have a problem
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with this and you doze for one second it
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comes the bullet you look down at the
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fucking stereo for one second and you
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look up in your rear-view mirror and
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there is a 500 class mercedes that was
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going 220 kilometers an hour and he is
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Nell like metallurgically grafted to
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your rear bumper
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he's well you're observing a clap punked
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he is flashing his brights in a way that
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is so angry like there's something about
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the like the flash the brights flash on
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a German car that is just like Octomom
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shalimar she'll like it just looks
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different
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so they it's designed to communicate
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anger you know in a way that we can't
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relate to hear and you feel like such a
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boob and then invariably that happens
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right at a place where there were on the
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right-hand lane
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there's a stack of trucks and there's no
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way for me nowhere for you to get out as
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you hadn't used on what why would I ever
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need to move over why would have to
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start thinking about that right look at
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me i'm mr. guy I'm i'll wait for
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somebody to come up behind me and I'll
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notice them
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yeah and maybe they flash their lights
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or something which is a very mean thing
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to do and then I'll move over when it's
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convenient for me but i'll move over
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one's coming for me but invariably what
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happens is you become the problem and
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and he never felt like the problem so
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much you
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nobody's nobody's more of the problem
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then somebody's pretty convinced that
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could never be part of the problem if
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you're like you should
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me you you're like one of those Gunny a
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bouncy balls in a particular again Rock
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run equipment right exactly everything
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is just to get and then fucking
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gummibär ok guys the ball or your
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brother or glory blog wrong huh
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you've heard of so-called pass out yeah
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I dated a gal I who is in the United
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States you never tell stories like this
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yeah well I'm a very private guy no you
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stay over here in my lane
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tell us more well it's just interesting
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because I'm this was in 1999 here in
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girl very young yes expect
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unconscionably young girl that I was
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saying we have to pass out not to not to
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tote not to say too much but past i was
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down in that area down around the Czech
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border where this is this is why bring
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it up hills and dales yes well and
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really it was more checked in German in
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a lot of ways
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hmm talk more Noelle she had am she had
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a real super East German kind of
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childhood you know like her father was a
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surgeon as they say like he was a doctor
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and he got whatever the East German
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government felt like paying him for
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stuff constant you know weird like
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mystery meat privations you know it was
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interesting she was right on the line i
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mean i think this is that pass out might
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have been in stripes for all I know it
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might as well in oh I see I see what
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you're supposed to go look at the map
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it's right there
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oh I know where it is that's not cool
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ask coat-of-arms Carla Callaghan Griffin
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like a dragon's together yeah really you
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know what we don't have enough Griffin's
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in America that's another problem with
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this place
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I mean you know pass out as a is like um
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yeah it's one of those old towns it's
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like a town where you start scratching
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the surface near like Oh was
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incorporated in 1100 except it was
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already a bit already been a Roman town
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4,000 sure you know like one of those
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generally anymore the story than that
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except that i was at a twenty-year-old
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the nineties and she was kind of east
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germany to play basketball she was
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almost six feet tall
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Wow astonishing is real outlier for me
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see like i like that you know i always I
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always imagined I've got your number
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yeah but then you throw a curveball like
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this every pound hard i'm not hard once
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dated a nice german basketball player
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you know she really large hands
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um yeah yeah I'm worried about the house
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I worry about the highway so that's your
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denim it really is but the thing is the
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beautiful part is and keep moving and
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get out of the way it just it's it's
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it's a bit is a base it's the best of
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America and the best of Europe again in
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a social psychology uh it's a it's a
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method of understanding the world that
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will help improve everything now you're
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adding science with the inertial
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relativity
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yeah yeah you got a bullet you have to
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you have to always I mean all these all
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these edicts I'm realizing you know part
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of what makes them lasting is that the
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that they are flexible they can have
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sort of you know amendments to them
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right do they do grow with the time's
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right not I do not believe that there
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should be Roderick on the line original
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lists who are trying to imagine what the
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founders maybe just don't want things
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judges out there you don't want a lot of
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activism it's true you don't want you
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don't want people who are trying to try
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to legislate from the bench if you know
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what I'm so but you do want to allow
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these edicts to be improved upon by
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future generations because they're going
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to have to adapt to a future time when
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everybody's going to be on hoverboards
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or or in pneumatic tubes and some of
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these things are going to be some of
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these things are going to think have
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been solved
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it's not really a true isn't it won't
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work in a pneumatic tube well and i know
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i'm not sure how you would pass somebody
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in a pneumatic tube well i think if you
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had any sense you'd engineering
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pneumatic tube that takes that into
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account
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right right exactly there's gonna be
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there's gonna be five tubes and you're
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going to be able to choose the two
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right that best expresses the the speed
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with which you would like to be
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automatically transmits be important
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that you continually reach use the
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appropriate amount is nice right well
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yeah I mean I think somebody from
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stockton or from a you know from Kiev is
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going to look at walk up to these tubes
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and he's gonna be like how am I supposed
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to choose this like I'm not getting in a
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tube the last tube that last thing that
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they saw that resemble the pneumatic
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tube transporter was some kind of cow
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shoot like a slide into McDonald's
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playground right so they're going to
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choose the one all the way to the right
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it's a nice big tube slow moving to the
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minivan of tubes
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yeah you just get in there and sort of
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like was Shannon just sort of oh just
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captain seats we just get real
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comfortable
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yeah it's just a gentle wish that wishes
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you off to your destination all the way
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on the left on the other hand
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yeah you're gonna see a line of people
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there in downhill ski costumes some of
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your people in the app class somebody is
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covering them with the you-know-what
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like motor oil they have goggles on and
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they're lining up to get into that left
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hand to because that is a that that the
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pneumatic pressure is a lot higher than
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yes by tighter fit it's a future
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attitudes of extremity yeah you are
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right about pass out first paragraph 2
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in the 2nd century BC many of the Bowie
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tribe which north across the Alps out of
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capital code blue durham by the Romans
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now within the inch dot district PESA
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2nd century pc turns out
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really yeah yeah around Europe is old
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John Europe is old
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the thing about past hours it is in it
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is a Bavarian town and Bavaria was never
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in the East no portion of Bavaria was
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part of Eastern Europe so our
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resemblance to a
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to a check or Eastern person was much I
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think you were interpreting a kind of
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universal Germanic severe severity that
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you know what that's on me she had very
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very blonde hair the varying severity if
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you will but very severe phobia for the
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verity as we call it
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yeah okay and that but you know it's
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sometimes it's tricky over there you
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know there are a lot of Germans yes true
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and they're different from each other
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which is the which is the confusing part
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you know Germany's you know Germany's
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not that big it's not much bigger than I
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don't know rotonda in stockton right
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somewhere you can put all of Germany in
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California because Germany compared to
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like what state would it be
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it's probably the biggest texas right
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Germany big is Germany relative to a
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Texas say uh huh and says i don't think
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there are 80 million people in Germany
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now is that right 60 million 80 million
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people at 80 point six million day after
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the United States Germany is the second
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most popular migration destination in
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the world I think that's true
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a lot of people want to move to germany
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who they got they got a mythical
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creature on the coat-of-arms pretty
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handsome how they do they do they've had
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woman on the the woman from the czech
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republic i was talking to she was like
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so I mean because we were talking about
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people all the young people in the Czech
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it was very fashionable and it seems
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like that's the way we were going but
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now everyone is learning German again
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because just it's just for practical
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purposes at the Germans are I mean
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basically they have um they have on
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solution suggested and land again but
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this time this time just with like
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tourists caravans and there's no that
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me because I do remember being in Prague
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at a time when it felt like an American
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colony a little bit really i thought was
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uniquely European all for sure but I
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mean in the sense of like the young
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people and the energy that they had for
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the future very cosmopolitan oh i mean
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if if it hadn't been for the wall
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to be the capital of Europe and I think
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it may one day you know like Prague have
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the disadvantage of always I mean for
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her a long time being kind of a a colony
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right it was an Austrian colony a second
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city in an empire and so Vienna was the
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capital and prague could only ever be a
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you know up a spoke the the checks could
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only be a spoke of this Empire and then
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they had a like a brief period there
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between the wars where they seem that
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there seemed like possibility for them
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and then they were you know they were
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absorbed by the Nazis and then maybe
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then became part of the Warsaw Pact and
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they never had their moment in modern
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times but project itself and the Czech
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people and that I mean I think they are
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the best of Central Europe and it's it
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should be the and the problem is it's
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gonna get
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it's going to turn into a tourist shit
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hole it already has but like there's
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something about it should be the center
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of central europe it's a very feminine
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city it's a very like and feminine in
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both ways like it's it's um it's also
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dangerous like feminine it's and it has
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claws claws out right at your link to
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the the the Buddhist whoppin Buddhist
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weapon and i'm saying that right the
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federal coat of arms and it's the volume
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our Eagle which they adopted the federal
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republic of germany uh adopted as its
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symbol in the 450 what's interesting is
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the evolution of this thing over time
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fucking become less terrifying and by
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the time you get to the standard of the
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federal president it's really more like
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an angry bird like five video game yeah
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oh look that's too bad you look at that
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it did it i mean i remember you get more
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of a death from above thing and now
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looks like you're going to try and knock
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some pics / I remember the you know the
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be so the the East German coat-of-arms
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always had like a hammer and a compass
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because they were building as workers
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um and it compared to like the the
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federal republic or whatever the the
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West is the last night's like so the GDR
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was the German Democratic Republic and
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the other one was the federal republic
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of germany is that how it went that
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right whatever the further the FRG in
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the GDR but I'm but yeah that like the
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Eagle seemed pretty badass
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but then you you don't have to go back
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too far to see the Nazi eagle which was
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not that but that doesn't make you feel
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warm and fuzzy but then you go all the
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way back and it doesn't look like an
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eagle at all it looks like a freaking
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Buzzard it looks like it it looks like a
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Griffin like a death Buzzard yeah kind
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and it looks like it's kind of like a
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little kid going i have strong muscles
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like yeah I'm strike certain flexing oh
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my god it's got so many and funny
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chicken feet
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thank you for sending me that the bundle
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swapan isn't it nice and then there's no
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way then there's the the two-headed
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Buddhist whoppin what if you go even
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further back the original german
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confederation will be as wide hided
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think it was invited to drop my goodness
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there's so many Eagles there's naked
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guys dressed up like a green goddess
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said salad dressing outfit
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yeah well let's see that I think I think
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that's the best German ever i've talked
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about that before right the the like
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nascent yeah the drawings right a druid
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worship the right tree worship that goes
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on in that country and is generally lady
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on in all of Central Europe yes they
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really are only Christian on the surface
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and surface especially surface
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Christians and beneath that they are
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still sacrificing lambs to the nature
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God's camp Germans love to camp in short
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pants like hiking biking up to the
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parking lot and hiking down to the
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parking lot of the other side for food
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that's not to give away too much not to
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reveal too much about my book of hiking
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understand yes they do they really like
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donkeys like West if they have to
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yeah but they're you know they're really
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corner they really want some labels
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around anyway I don't know why I keep
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getting cold
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you know I think it might be that you
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live in us in a in a sick house i might
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be a sick house i'm pretty sure we've
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got the asbestos in our tubes
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yeah you have you everybody's got
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asbestos in their tubes yeah
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but i feel you know like ever since my
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experiment and let now I'm not this is
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on casting at my experiment in going
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sugar-free oh wow so we can get really
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backing off that a year ago
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oh I get some get some late-night dining
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at state there's there's just been
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sterile backsliding and I don't know and
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the thing the thing was when i first had
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sugar after i had been sugar free for
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for a long time like whenever I would
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have even a little bit of sugar i would
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i would immediately recognized that it
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was poison like it felt like poison I
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like your body almost 12 reject it
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well yeah because you would you just get
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eat at a rather I would get crazy
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immediately like your mind would just be
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like wow dude I feel incredible but also
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i just a taste weird if you haven't had
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a candy bar really long time ago to be
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the candy bars like this is who eats
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this this is your easy
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yeah and you're and just wondering this
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should be a one-bite operation no way
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should there be a super size Snickers
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that's disgusting
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yeah exactly i mats and that's a perfect
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as that's perfectly true like one bite
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of confection you get the whole
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everything that's good is in that first
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bite and everything that follows is just
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like garbage at the perfect way to put
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it's a camp train of followers and what
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at Camp to camp train right you know
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when an Army moves through oh yeah that
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you're talking about the German
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backpacking well in a sense we went to
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last night watch acting i watch Henry
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the fifth and I ate a point-of-sale bean
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ice cream
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yeah thank you and that you didn't come
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in the fifth that's what's happening to
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me too and you know what what my gateway
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drug was I found some gluten-free um
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granola know what gluten-free granola
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and then it seemed possible
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well I know and then someone else
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introduced me to nonfat Greek yogurt
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and so I was like listen I got all the
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ingredients here i got nonfat Greek
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yogurt i got gluten-free granola I got
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those bags with a near beer and alcohol
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those bags that you get now at the
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supermarkets where you get a 15-pound
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bag of blackberries raspberries
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blueberries and strawberries all mixed
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together and frozen which is it that is
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a technology that like if all of
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California if everyone in California has
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to die in order to keep the fruit
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factories producing cheap berries I feel
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like it's a trade-off that I'm willing
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to consider
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I agree I agree a terrible state and and
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the truth is that the berries are one of
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the few things that have not gotten
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awfully yet it's not awful like tomatoes
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have gotten off or peaches have gotten
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awful you can still have a good
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blueberry or blueberry a good strawberry
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bad strawberry but they're not
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categorically shit like PS yeah they
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have they haven't they haven't read them
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to the point that there's no flavor
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texture of the next relation we got one
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banana now that's right that's right
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there is only one kind of banana the
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daughter and she was she had a half a
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banana and she was applying it to her
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lips like lipstick all and I was like
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what are you doing and she said just
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putting on some banana lipstick adorable
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and I felt and she you know and she said
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it and looked at me as though it was it
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couldn't be more obvious what she was
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doing but I did feel a little bit like
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the banana nose a banana that's that has
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a that's mostly starch does feel a
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little bit like lip balm and and less
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like food you know this little gritty
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yeah these starchy tasteless modern
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bananas but anyway if we have to die
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verte the whole uh the ball every River
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that comes out of the southwest right
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well you know having a drought you're
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saying you're saying plenty of water
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plenty of cheap workers just keep the
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frozen berries coming just pour that
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shit on to the berry farms and if I mean
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la is going to end up devolved into
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water riots and you know and
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mass sort of like terrible immigration
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and at by which i mean like armies of
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thirsty people marching north in
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tattered clothes yet his la needs a
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reason to be more like either do nor mad
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max that's what we need right now
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resource riots on top of it all yeah
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that's gonna happen no matter what and I
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just say fence off those berry fields
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pop some corn let preference but guard
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towers around the berry fields and just
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let those la people you know march to
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the sea or whatever but keep those
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gluten-free granola with with them with
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nonfat Greek yogurt and frozen berries
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was doing all the right things here but
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what I was really doing was making a
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giant parfait sunday still technically a
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lot of sugar
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felt like i had given myself a pass
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I be nice to eat a large mixing bowl of
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yeah i did not impose any size
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restrictions on it southend and i was i
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was basically making popcorn bowl of
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this stuff and and I was like this is
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incredible you know it's a it's like
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that the the secretary at the place i
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used to the stock brokerage where I
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worked back when I was still drinking
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who I overheard one day talking to her
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the her desk partner and she said have
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you ever have you ever tried these
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fat-free brownies and the co-worker was
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like no this was when fat-free yeah
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brownies were knew she was like they're
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incredible i mean i ate a whole pan of
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them they're fat-free and like four cups
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of sugar fat free and i was like Lady
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yeah four cups of sugar exactly right so
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anyway so that was my gateway these
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parfaits i'm jon is very pretty soon I
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was just like what I'm gonna be eating
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4,000 calories of non-fat yogurt i might
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as well be on
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a magical just eat ben & jerry's and
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butt but I feel like to get back to
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where the jumping-off point was here
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that is why I'm sick because i still
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have this sense memory i saw this this
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this distant memory of knowing how
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poison sugar is and now it's in my body
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again to the to the to the degree that I
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can't sense it when i put in
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oh no you're back on your back your back
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on sugar basically well it's in there
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you've got you've got a baseline amount
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of sugar and which is going to make you
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want more sugar we even if you're not
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conscious of it that's exactly right and
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i think that's how it is
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yeah that's exactly how it i didn't
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begin my night saying well i'm gonna
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have a all of this ice cream
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no but then it was gone you know yeah
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I'm Agincourt that's that's enough
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collagen up the gentle my condition
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yeah as in core wow that's a real thing
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it's a real thing it really happened
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yeah that's thirty years war i keep you
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know there was a time when I felt like
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the thirty years war was the key to
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understanding everything was that
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educates not that's not the hundred
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years or 30 years or no no 30 years I
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mean a sort of sort of unrelated uh-huh
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but sort of not everything in Europe is
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revived third thirty years war came
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later but but but thirty years war is
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like three years and years or a hundred
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years war that's right for the roses
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okay well yeah we're just saying words
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for of the world via century of World
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War when you're in the thirty years war
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is the one that happened in a sort of a
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post Martin Luther and it really felt
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like that was the first for a long time
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it felt like that was the key for me to
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understand everything that happened
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subsequently in Europe and that but the
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problem with the thirty years war is
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there's nothing there's no way to keep
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it in your mind there's no central
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there's really no central figure there's
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no central battle there's no central
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event really it's it's just like all
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against all chaos war that lasted for 30
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years and and the end result was mostly
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that everyone everyone was tired and all
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of the good things were had been burned
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you know it was that it was the first
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sort of total war where everything just
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the armies would come into a town and
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they would go out the other side and
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there would just be nothing left on card
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and and then everybody just got
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exhausted and and just sort of petered
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out sort of thing and so it's very hard
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to keep like I read several books about
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it and I have this very clear picture of
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all that you know Charles the fifth and
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all these people that were that were the
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source material for all the stuff that
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came after right you couldn't look at
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the american revolution or or Napoleon
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or or the French Revolution or anything
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that came later without understanding
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this cauldron of the thirty years war
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but now it's been you know half a dozen
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years since i read a book about it and I
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couldn't really tell you anything about
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it because it is because it just it's
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not just them i'm old and my brain is a
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but but there's no even as i was reading
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books about it I was like the person
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writing this book does not understand
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the scope of what they're talking about
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because there's too much
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there are too many factors going in and
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coming out the other side there were too
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actors and it's just like Oh King Gustav
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of sweden now isn't how he's riding into
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what now his army is involved like where
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did they come from one of those
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different time were like today you if
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anything happened between any two
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countries we would know about it
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the second that happened and everybody
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would have a theory everybody in the
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entire on the entire planet would have a
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theory because they they have a record
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about it and then what it might be weeks
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before you heard about something right
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right you're saying I mean it was it
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wasn't like it wasn't even like the 43
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can show a newsreel and go like this is
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what it means is pearl harbor right this
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is this is what this is what we're
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fighting for
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it must have been much more local and
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localized and I think there were there
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were you know whole swaths of events in
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the thirty years war where there were no
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witnesses who survived from the other
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side of the story right you got one side
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of the story because everybody on the
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other side of the story died
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yeah and and you know I like I often i
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often weep for the lost human the the
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you know that we make so much progress
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and then we have these sweeping wars and
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kind of like everything is ruined right
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like it in a way like bullets same way
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that you weep for the library at
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Alexandria right like oh if only we had
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if only we had all those books and had
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always had them there wouldn't have been
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dark ages or something but in fact you
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know the more you study the more you
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realize like ads to stall stall
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construction paper and glue that's all
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we're all just silent green light up all
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line up off go into the grinders that
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are under every taco bell you know every
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third person that goes into a taco bell
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doesn't come out this reason all those
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birds hang out outside you know and
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we'll walk by yesterday morning on the
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way for daddy daughter morning we went
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out to get some dim sum as you walk by
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the guy the bird guy the guy gets the
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free chicken KFC 1030am he's in there in
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chicken and there's no because I respect
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his dignity but I just gonna let you
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know it's a real thing
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was there yesterday morning 10-30
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getting chicken butt but interesting
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that remains and you and your young
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daughter have now made them some part of
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your 5 daddy-daughter routine that she
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could put it away I mean she's no John
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Roderick but she could put a hurtin on
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some dim sum just talking as much as i
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do just talking about it makes me sad
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but I'm not sitting at your kitchen
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table right now eating for people's
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questions about I get you off that sugar
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for people for portions up for big
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hungry man portions of dim sum and I'm
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like I'm I'm slapping people's hands as
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they are reaching you know anything is
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over so it's irresponsible because we
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went in there and at first he really he
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loves my daughter he's always asking
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about her and whenever I bring her and I
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got to do this more he like slashes the
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price in half
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oh hello so we got like 16 pieces of dim
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sum for six dollars uh-huh and then we
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ate it and then we went downtown and
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check a couple of days ago because i
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in concert and you know I feel about
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Judas Priest strongly to feel strongly
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about Judas Priest I've seen it was rob
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halford st. robs the only one that's not
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in the band is KK downing that's pretty
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take it down and took a pass well except
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the drummer I think you know that having
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so much fun year old kid spinal tap
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drummers over the years right although
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the original drummer's gone 20 years but
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you know you've got you've got glenn
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tipton on guitar and you've got Rob
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Halford and that that's like I don't
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they were the two stars right we've got
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a young guy plan in kk downing position
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and he's a great guitar player and a lot
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of fun to watch and I i accepted him as
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a member of judas priest but uh you know
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when I was a big fan of Judas Priest all
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the way back to my youth but I only ever
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got to see them twice and both times in
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the last five or six years if you
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movement issues
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yeah i mean the first time I saw me
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actually was walking around the stage
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with a with a cane like that a skull on
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the head or whatever but it was
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definitely was using it as a cane and
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now he's you know he moved slowly and
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after at the end of every song he
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disappears behind a curtain and maybe
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get some vitamin b12 shot and some some
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cortisone in the knees or something and
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then comes back out at the poor guy
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because the thing is I've seen videos of
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all Judas Priest when he had hair
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yeah and I mean he was in his twenties I
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mean he's he's gotta be look at us I
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mean Jesus Christ I'll be 48 this week
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he's got to be 60 right here i think
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they're I think glenn tipton a 67
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oh my lord and i don't know how old Rob
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so Rob Halford was born in 51 right so
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many 363 um even as a massive fan and
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even even allowing for the fact that it
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was it was great it was actually
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terrible because it was mechanical
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well no it was just like metal is not a
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thing that
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that you can in habitat 67 or rather
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like if you go see pink floyd right now
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and those guys are 70 right
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oh yes um I don't you been to the store
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but just Dave Gilmour is still very
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entertaining life
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well little I think the way to put that
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is that Dave Gilmour is still exactly as
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entertaining as he ever was
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which is to say that he stands there and
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stares at his shoes while he plays
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fantastically right but you never pink
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floyd never ran over and like climbed up
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on the speaker stacks and and said right
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do you wanna watch like there's not you
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know they were just like all standing
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and there was the light show that was
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doing the work so pink floyd you know
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the pink floyd completed the 95 I think
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and and it will still probably be an
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amazing live show but but metal like
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when you when your guitar part goes to
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bouncer to did bound like every one of
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those bounds you wanna have you want to
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see some movement from the guitar player
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because each one of those to chikar each
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one of those is a an ax chopped right
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you are those are the musical equivalent
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of you swinging your battle axe at a
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dwarf and I don't and I don't and I mean
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am i oh you mean like for middle-earth I
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mean a mythical not a little nervous not
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a little but like so you you are using
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your guitar in metal as a weapon it is
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an axe literally and you should be you
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should be wielding it's writing two
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together oh you did you are you're just
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chopping at these middle earth creatures
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with your accent tank and if these these
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guys are in their sixties and they've
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been playing this music for 40 years and
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you just didn't get the sense anymore
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that they that they were connecting the
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they were they were they were connecting
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the dots and II they were playing their
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music but you kind of felt like they
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were thinking about their house in Ibiza
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and how expensive it was to keep the
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swimming pool heated or whatever
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but I was watching just priest at the
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tacoma dome and the be sort of comedy
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metal band steel panther opened but look
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around there were 9,000 10,000 people
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there and not a single one of them was
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concerned with ethics in gaming German
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journalism right there was not a single
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person there who cared about really any
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of the evolution the social evolution
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that seems to be really gaining a lot of
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momentum am applying these are older
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well I mean average age of the place was
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probably 40 but there were young people
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to that who had just adopted whole cloth
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see attitude and look of the eighties
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it's still a culture it's still an
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active culture right i'm drawing from
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the rural counties and it was really
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astonishing that you know like the
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unabashedly pneus of like girls getting
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up onstage and flashing the audience and
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feeling like this was the the best day
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of their life you could just see like
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i'm han stage with steel panther and
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they want me to show my boobs and this
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is my fucking moment and I was like wow
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right like this i used to be a thing and
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you know and it used to feel like the
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dominant culture although it wasn't
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right the dominant culture in pop music
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was always country-and-western we just
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didn't know it because we because it was
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we were on one side of the Berlin Wall
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and anybody felt like the dominant
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culture but now it is still it's still a
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viable culture and i was i was
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astonished by it and an astonished
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because it made me realize that I am now
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living in her i'm living in a culture
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that seems like because i'm on the
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internet because i'm a member of uh of
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of Twitter and of the of the world of
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people who are getting their list of
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concerns and their their social cues
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coming from people who engage with one
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another on the internet i have started
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to feel like that is reality and it is
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the dominant culture but in fact I it's
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just a culture it's one of 20,000 right
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simultaneous cultures and um and it was
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it was like a it would I was surprised
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at what an eye opener was I was like wow
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right no one like half the people in
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here you read that thing and i know i
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know we're over an hour and i know you
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are starting to that know you're worried
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that I'm gonna start talking about
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social justice and derail this podcast
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now that way and put this podcast into
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the into the deep 65 surely fine
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I know you're worried worried i'm sure
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it'll be fine I know you're worried that
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I'm gonna start advancing a theory out
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every maneuver but you know there was
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all that astonishment when a when Bill
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Cosby played in Florida
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I'm listening
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five days after all this stuff came out
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mhm and he was treated created to
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rapturous applause from a sold-out crowd
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right and everybody on the internet was
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like how is this even possible
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we've been talking about this business
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of the culture that I look this isn't
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the culture that I look at for 16 hours
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yeah right for 16 hours a day I have
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been agreeing with every single other
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person in the universe that bill cosby
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needs to be sent to jail and now i'm
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getting a report on buzzfeed that a
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thousand people in like a retirement
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community went to his show and applauded
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and right and said we love you Bill
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Cosby and and he made no reference to
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the controversy and no
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and stood up in the audience and uh
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Andrew soy bomb' on their chests and
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handsets stop this madness or whatever
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and and I would you know I remember
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reading the reading the the astonishment
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on the on the web and kind of sharing
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their astonishment like whoa I did not
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see that coming
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I did not see that he was going to could
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like you imagine the balls and it takes
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to go out and do that to just be like
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well you don't look at now I'm just
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gonna go out and I'm just like that will
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come up and Ellen it actually worked
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it actually one person one person had a
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sign that said rape is not a joke and
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apart from everybody else is pretty into
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it they were unequivocal that's sitting
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here like me struggling and going like
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oh my god this is so awful and I still
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can't stop thinking about how much i
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love Bill Cosby is a kid i'm still I'm
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so struggling to try and square this
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information they're fine no problem
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hey it's dr. Huxtable beautiful ones
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that work that we're trying to square
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like you
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well you know there's two sides to every
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story or what that's right it is pretty
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funny is pretty funny i bought a t-shirt
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but I don't know if I'm gonna wear to
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yeah it's just like and go into this
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Judas Priest constant was the same thing
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like wow I spend i spent 16 hours a day
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living in a world where we are talking
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about Tom we are talking about gender
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politics and second and and and social
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politics as such a fait accompli or as
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such a we're like we wait and it's the
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astonishment that not everybody like it
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is even having the same argument we may
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not agree with each other everything
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about everything but we had kind of
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agree on the basic rules of the game and
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then there's a lady who deliberately
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wants to take your top off and show your
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boobs while being called steel panther
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place not all lady 25 you know who are
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just like I get to go up onstage and
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take my top off this is fucking amazing
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and and it felt a little bit like going
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to Thanksgiving dinner with your family
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and everybody wants to talk about Mitt
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Romney or something you know what I mean
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like it just right yeah
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oh whoa
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I'm there's a whole other universe
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happening except unlike me if I went to
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Thanksgiving dinner and everybody wanted
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to talk about Mitt Romney I would like
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my fellow internet people I would feel
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the smug certainty that they were like
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you know dinosaurs and fuck them and I
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just need you know i'm gonna post like
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ironic uh Instagram photos of my hold
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relatives until I can get out of here
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but to go with Judas Priest concert and
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feel like these people believe that they
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are like the hardest core I mean they're
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older but this is a hardcore this is
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like that this is the bleeding edge
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right that we are in league with Satan
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here and my kids are b12 shots
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yeah right you know yeah same you know
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Satan with a little with a little help
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same with a little nudge to get back out
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on stage and and sing the Ripper one
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more time this range shot sucks because
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range shot and there's a little bit i
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mean there's quite a bit of sound guy
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helped along the way
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yeah you can I mean you can do a lot it
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was still training your voice at that
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age to spoof it and then you just hit
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just the right amount of reverb forge a
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little bit at the right time and you can
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get away with a lot a reverb and then
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the long delay so he'll be like that you
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know how to order everyone do and you
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just didn't and then when you kill the
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you know you just yell on the long delay
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and that o-rings out but there were
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there were like five moments in the in
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the concert where he had a signature one
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of those signature piercing like and I
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really felt like I was hearing some not
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just read additional river but like some
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maybe something actually helping out or
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some tracks or something something
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somebody was pushing a button on the
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doctor sample
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adding in some pre-recorded Halford took
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to make those moments really blow
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because because there were lots of other
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moments in the songs where they decided
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that it wasn't worth doing that and rob
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was not he was not like making those
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other moments happen the same way God
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and the thing is like you know
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say what you will about the guy was like
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he's always been a hell of a showman
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I mean really almost like old old
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Hollywood old radio like he really lazy
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link up there like with your Bruce
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Dickinson's and your class minus like
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he's working the crowd
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mm-hmm he genuinely wants to know if
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you're ready to rock and roll he does
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and he believes uh he believes united
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united united we stand united we stand
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up on all my kingly the grinders looking
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for me too he believes that metal is a
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community and that it's saved you know
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like the punk rockers he believes that
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metal saving his life and well it's
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gonna be about an hour and 15 minutes
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now let me tell you figure to you about
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punk rock
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